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You’ve probably been thinking, “It’s been 24 or even 36 hours since there was any breaking news about Nipsey Hussle. What’s up?” Fortunately, the New York Times is here to deliver your fix:

Nipsey Hussle Was Hailed as a Hero. But to California Officials, He Was Still a Gangster.

By Tim Arango
April 19, 2019

LOS ANGELES — When a gunman rolled up to Nipsey Hussle’s Marathon Clothing store late last month, the first person to be shot was Kerry Lathan, recently released from prison and there to pick up a T-shirt. Mr. Lathan was shot in the back, before Hussle, the renowned rap artist, was killed.

Days later, Mr. Lathan, using a wheelchair while he recovered from his wound, was arrested and held in the Men’s Central Jail — not because he had committed a crime, but because he had violated parole by associating with a known gang member: Nipsey Hussle.

Never mind that Hussle had been lauded as a businessman and a philanthropist, mourned with a 25-mile procession through the streets of South Los Angeles, and celebrated by former President Barack Obama. Or that he had been killed one day before he was set to sit down with the city’s police chief to talk about reducing gang violence.

I presume the man arrested for Mr. Hussle’s murder was also on the gang list.

… According to a study by the Pew Charitable Trusts, about 20 percent of people released from state prisons are sent back for technical violations, meaning they did not commit a new crime but rather violated conditions, like a ban on entering places that serve alcohol or having any contact with the police — or, in the protracted case of the rapper Meek Mill, an order to take etiquette classes.

Critics say probation and parole often go on far longer than necessary and keep people enmeshed in the criminal justice system, and that those accused of violations have limited due process.

California, once a leader in get-tough-on-crime policies that swelled prison populations, is now seen as at the forefront of national efforts to address mass incarceration and racial disparities in the criminal justice system….

But many parole violations involve alleged links to gang members.

“Gangs are the great exception” to the trend away from incarceration, said Jorja Leap, a gang expert at the University of California at Los Angeles. Even with significant questions about how gangs, gang membership and gang-related crimes are defined, such crimes carry enhanced punishments and a person tagged as having gang affiliations can find the label impossible to shake.

Crime reporter Sam Quinones (author of Dreamland on opioids) pointed out how the Bratton Era LAPD made a huge leap forward in effectiveness by dumping the old strategy of focusing on arresting the gang kingpin. It turns out, however, you don’t have to be a criminal mastermind to be top man in a gang. And there’s always another gangbanger ready to take the kingpin’s place. Instead, California law enforcement about a decade ago just started mass arrests to roll up all the members of the gang at once.

It works.

“If someone like Nipsey Hussle is viewed as always a gang member,” Dr. Leap said, “what is happening to the average guy who has a low-level job, who’s trying to make it, and that’s his past? Or the average gal, because it’s men and women alike.”

California has long maintained a database of gang members called CalGang, and apparently Hussle, who had spoken publicly about his past experience as a member of the Crips, was still listed, despite the turn in his life.

He was not just an aspiring rapper, he was a rapper! That he happened to be murdered by a gang member is just a huge coincidence.

For some reason, I’m reminded of the long-forgotten Italian-American Civil Rights League. From Wikipedia:

Its stated goal was to combat pejorative stereotypes about Italian-Americans.

The group began as the Italian American Anti-Defamation League[1] on April 30, 1970, when approximately 30 Italian-Americans, led by mobster Joseph Colombo, picketed the Manhattan headquarters of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). …

The 30 demonstrators who appeared at the FBI building were joined by others in successive days, and ultimately their number grew to more than 5,000. The group then adopted the name “Italian-American Civil Rights League” after Colombo’s attorney, Barry Slotnick, had suggested it. …

Within two months, the organization claimed 45,000 dues-paying members, and held a large rally in Columbus Circle on June 28, 1970. The league gained further momentum when Frank Sinatra held a benefit concert in its honor at Madison Square Garden in November of that year.

The group then turned its attention to what it perceived as cultural slights against Italian-Americans, using boycott threats to force Alka-Seltzer and the Ford Motor Company to withdraw television commercials the league objected to, and also got United States Attorney General John Mitchell to order the United States Justice Department to stop using the word “Mafia” in official documents and press releases. The league also secured an agreement from Albert S. Ruddy, the producer of The Godfather, to omit the terms “Mafia” and “Cosa Nostra” from the film’s dialogue, and succeeded in having Macy’s stop selling a board game called The Godfather Game. The IACRL boycotted the Ford Motor Company because of its sponsorship of the television show The F.B.I. and its negative references to Italian-Americans as gangsters. Alka-Seltzer was boycotted for its “Dat’s a Spicy Meatball” ad campaign.

In the spring of 1971, the IACRL announced that it had purchased land for use as a summer camp, known as Camp Unity, in upstate Rosendale, New York. The camp covered 250 acres (1.0 km2) and was open to all underprivileged New York City youth, regardless of ethnic background.

On June 28, 1971, the league held another rally in Columbus Circle. At the rally, Colombo was shot three times in the head by a man who was then immediately shot and killed; the blast left Colombo in a coma from which he would never recover (he died on May 22, 1978). Theories abounded as to the motive for the shooting; the most commonly held belief was that other Mafia bosses in New York ordered the hit because they did not like the media attention Colombo and the group were receiving. The organization, at that time believed to number more than 100,000, had effectively disappeared within a year after the shooting.

 
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  1. Maybe they are right, we should dump the parole system and let people serve their entire sentences.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Yes, that's the simple point they're ignoring. I had an acquaintance who was imprisoned on a drug charge. He was an intelligent guy, had a master's degree, but was addicted to crack. He was offered parole if he would get drug counseling. He said, "No thank you, I prefer to serve out my sentence and be free and clear of the justice system."

    Everyone has that option if they don't want to honor the terms of their parole.
  2. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:

    Mike Franzese was a member of the Colombo Family and famous for being one of the biggest earning mob guys of all time and not going into witness protection. He was also involved in movie production. He was interviewed recently and described being next to Joe Colombo when he got shot at the rally. There’s other interesting stuff in the interview, like how Michael Jordan’s father was killed over Michael’s gambling debts to the mob, and how the mafia killed JFK:

    • Replies: @Emblematic
    Who killed JFK you say? The Italian 'Mafia'? Or the Jewish Mob?

    Just what were Jacob Rubenstein/Jack Ruby's Mob connections again?
    , @Alden
    So that’s why Michael Jordan’s father was killed. I remember the story reported was that is was just a random robbery and murder.
  3. @Joe, Averaged
    Maybe they are right, we should dump the parole system and let people serve their entire sentences.

    Yes, that’s the simple point they’re ignoring. I had an acquaintance who was imprisoned on a drug charge. He was an intelligent guy, had a master’s degree, but was addicted to crack. He was offered parole if he would get drug counseling. He said, “No thank you, I prefer to serve out my sentence and be free and clear of the justice system.”

    Everyone has that option if they don’t want to honor the terms of their parole.

  4. “… The group then adopted the name “Italian-American Civil Rights League” after Colombo’s attorney, Barry Slotnick, had suggested it. …”

    Such a bright fellow!

    Was he Sicilian, or Calabrese?

  5. I presume the man arrested for Mr. Hussle’s murder was also on the gang list.

    As are most of the young men walking here from Central America for “asylum”.

  6. Hail says: • Website

    A recent article republished at Unz is a kind of thousand-year review of Jewish-WestEuropean relations, purporting to show strong continuity in the Jewish modus operandi towards us lo these many centuries, which is still quite recognizable today. (A solid article; its 3,500 words punch above their weight; i.e., it’s worth the read.)

    In that spirit, history sleuths ought to take advantage of the Nipsey Hussle story and track down parallel “Nipsey Hussle Moments” in civilizations in decline. Surely there are some. They would be useful to compile for reference and analysis purposes.

    Let Nispey not have died in vain.

  7. So Mr. Lathan ended up shot and in a wheel chair because he was hanging out with a known gang member.

    But the NYT’s take-away from this incident is that it’s just a silly rule to require parolees to stay away from gang members. That’s about par for the course for them.

    Anti-incarceration seems to be their favorite new fad. It’s basically a movement to just decriminalization crime.

    Eventually the crime rate in black neighborhoods will go off the charts and they will go back to claiming that racist whites are refusing to prevent crime in the ‘hood.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Emblematic
    "Eventually the crime rate in black neighborhoods will go off the charts and they will go back to claiming that racist whites are refusing to prevent crime in the ‘hood."

    The word they will use will be "underserved". Black communities are either overpoliced or underserved.
    , @Meretricious
    Somehow I'm not sure any of us will live that long.
    , @Redneck farmer
    They're already starting. I heard on a public radio show that Baltimore's increased murders are from cops not being proactive enough. How to be effective without "violating the rights of people of color" was not really discussed by the POCs on the show.
  8. Anon[314] • Disclaimer says:

    “According to a study by the Pew Charitable Trusts, about 20 percent of people released from state prisons are sent back for technical violations, meaning they did not commit a new crime but rather violated conditions, like a ban on entering places that serve alcohol,”

    This is nothing. About 98 percent of white collar white people people indicted by grand juries convened by attorneys general or special prosecutors investigating things like, oh, collusion, are sent to jail for unrelated technical violations, like lying to the FBI in an unrecorded interview, obstruction of justice, money laundering or its converse, structuring, failures to register as a foreign agent, etc.

  9. An angry black man trying to kill young white boys also back in the news. This time Oghaleoghene Atuno of Aurora, Colorado, was swinging for a double.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/04/man-accused-of-running-over-2-young-boys-with-his-car-charged-with-attempted-murder/

  10. Anon[350] • Disclaimer says:

    Crime reporter Sam Quinones (author of Dreamland on opioids) pointed out how the Bratton Era LAPD made a huge leap forward in effectiveness by dumping the old strategy of focusing on arresting the gang kingpin.

    This is not really the same thing, but I’ve always thought that the best approach to things is to target individuals whose lives you can well and fully destroy, rather than institutions. This gets around and creates a chilling effect.

    Institutions would be suing Rolling Stone for the rape piece; individuals would be the lawsuit against the writer (which was brought); better yet, the fake rape victim should have been sued and her parents savings drained.

    Institutions would be suing the New York Times. That gets you nowhere. Sue the journalist and do not name the Time in the lawsuit. There are no deep pockets, but you have put fear into the minds of a whole generation of New York journalists if you win.

    Peter Thiel’s Gawker lawsuit left one of the writers destitute, and he’s still in bad shape: I google him occasionally.

    Any Title IV sex case should immediately be turned into an off-campus civil lawsuit, not naming the school, only the accuser.

    Did some students wreak your anti-abortion display on campus? File an off-campus criminal complaint and then sue the students and their inciting professors, as John Does if necessary. Do not name the university in the lawsuit. If the university president makes a statement, sue him individually for libel in a separate case.

    This kind of strategic defendant targeting has all kinds of possibilities. Sanctuary cities? Border crossing immigrants? Did they wreck your lawn? Sue a thousand of them as John Does, depose local immigration attorneys, subpoena the cell phone footage of everyone in the area and of the press. If you ID some illegal aliens, harass them. Sue banks they use for money remittances. If they disappear, go nuclear in your collection efforts, suing resettlement organizations or whoever may know their whereabouts. File suits in Central American countries. You will get no money, but other benefits will accrue.

    I think this kind of thing could be a good project for a bored billionaire.

    No particular lawsuit would accomplish much, but it could be like an army of ants. Various categories of lawsuits could be refined and most of the work could be done by paralegals in India and the Philippines.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Curious Person

    This is not really the same thing, but I’ve always thought that the best approach to things is to target individuals whose lives you can well and fully destroy, rather than institutions. This gets around and creates a chilling effect.

     

    Alinsky had the same idea
  11. @Anonymous
    Mike Franzese was a member of the Colombo Family and famous for being one of the biggest earning mob guys of all time and not going into witness protection. He was also involved in movie production. He was interviewed recently and described being next to Joe Colombo when he got shot at the rally. There's other interesting stuff in the interview, like how Michael Jordan's father was killed over Michael's gambling debts to the mob, and how the mafia killed JFK:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEvYav8mFLQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt2k0SpaB1k

    Who killed JFK you say? The Italian ‘Mafia’? Or the Jewish Mob?

    Just what were Jacob Rubenstein/Jack Ruby’s Mob connections again?

  12. @Hypnotoad666
    So Mr. Lathan ended up shot and in a wheel chair because he was hanging out with a known gang member.

    But the NYT's take-away from this incident is that it's just a silly rule to require parolees to stay away from gang members. That's about par for the course for them.

    Anti-incarceration seems to be their favorite new fad. It's basically a movement to just decriminalization crime.

    Eventually the crime rate in black neighborhoods will go off the charts and they will go back to claiming that racist whites are refusing to prevent crime in the 'hood.

    “Eventually the crime rate in black neighborhoods will go off the charts and they will go back to claiming that racist whites are refusing to prevent crime in the ‘hood.”

    The word they will use will be “underserved”. Black communities are either overpoliced or underserved.

    • Agree: RationalExpressions
  13. @Hypnotoad666
    So Mr. Lathan ended up shot and in a wheel chair because he was hanging out with a known gang member.

    But the NYT's take-away from this incident is that it's just a silly rule to require parolees to stay away from gang members. That's about par for the course for them.

    Anti-incarceration seems to be their favorite new fad. It's basically a movement to just decriminalization crime.

    Eventually the crime rate in black neighborhoods will go off the charts and they will go back to claiming that racist whites are refusing to prevent crime in the 'hood.

    Somehow I’m not sure any of us will live that long.

  14. I see all these references to Yippy Tussle being a gang member. What happened to gangbanger? It’s better, because it sounds disparaging.

  15. When Tupac was killed, I had a vague idea of who he was, this Nipsey dude, I have no idea. Not going t contribute to his estate by going to youtube for a video. Maybe this is just a big media ‘pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.’

    And to Joe, Averaged, the parole system serves as a legal pretext to snoop on felons. From most everything I’ve seen and read, it’s better that someone serves a year or three of parole upon release. A parole officer has the right to enter your home without a warrant, search it, and send you back for the remainder of your time in incarcertation if you’re not on the straight and narrow. One day shy of serving a full sentence, you can be sent back to prison for the remainder of the original sentence. Unfortunately I know due a family member. Ugh.

  16. Sicily is cuturally part of North Africa: dirty, low-trust, poor, chaotic, nothing works; it’s an unorganised mess.

  17. But identifying gangs and gang members is a cause of the violence:

    “This is underscored by commentary by experts in the Chicago Reporter this week. They report that, as a result of the fragmentation of traditional gang structures, “gangs today are not so much the cause of violence as one of the effects of distressed communities,” and “high rates of violence are correlated more to conditions of concentrated African-American poverty than to gangs or drugs.” They argue that the low clearance rate for murders in Chicago indicates that the city’s “war on gangs” strategy is a failure.”

    “Rather than help prevent violence, the gang database has served to criminalize communities of color, including many individuals with no criminal associations.”

    https://www.chicagoreporter.com/police-in-schools-gang-database-scandals-offer-lightfoot-first-test-on-reform/

    • Replies: @El Dato
    White gangs, however, are racist per se and need to be disbanded:

    US militias told to stand down after catching 300+ migrants

    US authorities are warning wannabe vigilantes against taking the law into their own hands after an armed militia group detained over 300 migrants earlier this week at the Mexican border in what they claimed was a citizen’s arrest.

    “These individuals should not attempt to exercise authority reserved for law enforcement,” New Mexico Attorney General Hector Balderas said in response to reports that members of the United Constitutional Patriots militia – which claims to be made up of ex-cops and veterans – had captured a massive group of illegal immigrants after they entered the US through a fence near the town of Sunland, New Mexico earlier this week.

    The American Civil Liberties Union wrote a letter to state government denouncing the militia for “undermin[ing] the legitimate efforts of our state’s law enforcement officials to keep New Mexico families safe.”

    A video of the mass arrest shows hundreds of migrants sitting and kneeling complacently as the camerawoman marvels at how many children and sick people are coming in “right through our backdoor.” “I don’t know what to say about this, other than the fact that it’s gotta stop,” she says. The lengthy clip, which was streamed live over Facebook, shows the Border Patrol arrive and walk the massive group through the desert. The militiamen appear to be on good terms with the Border Patrol officers.

    US Customs and Border Protection wouldn’t comment on the group specifically, but admonished would-be heroes to call 911 instead of taking matters into their own hands if they suspected illegal activity.
     
  18. … Kerry Lathan, recently released from prison and there to pick up a T-shirt.

    That elicited a chuckle: he was there to pick up a T-shirt rather than buy it? Did this guy actually put a T-shirt on layaway? Was this one expensive T-shirt–gold-plated with hydraulic suspension maybe?

    • Replies: @bored identity
    bored identity strongly believes that there are at least a couple dozen Husslemites laughing all the way to Nipsey's grave site on a daily basis:



    Nipsey Hussle's Marathon clothing is in high demand.

    Karen Civil sent out a tweet letting fans and followers know to buy "AUTHORIZED items from HIS BUSINESS" if people are looking to support Nipsey and everything he stood for.

    One user replied, simply stating she's still "waiting on her package" which promoted Karen to follow-up with an update.

    "It’s coming! Please be patient literally over 2 million orders yours will come shortly they’ve been working 12 hours straight :)"

    https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/article/77680/

     

    Meanwhile, some obviously seamstressed 9 year Gangbangladeshi is dreaming of that big, beautifully borderless Nipsey Wonka Golden Ticket, while frantically running Crenshaw Redemption sweat-shirts through the sewing machine...
  19. @Anon

    Crime reporter Sam Quinones (author of Dreamland on opioids) pointed out how the Bratton Era LAPD made a huge leap forward in effectiveness by dumping the old strategy of focusing on arresting the gang kingpin.
     
    This is not really the same thing, but I've always thought that the best approach to things is to target individuals whose lives you can well and fully destroy, rather than institutions. This gets around and creates a chilling effect.

    Institutions would be suing Rolling Stone for the rape piece; individuals would be the lawsuit against the writer (which was brought); better yet, the fake rape victim should have been sued and her parents savings drained.

    Institutions would be suing the New York Times. That gets you nowhere. Sue the journalist and do not name the Time in the lawsuit. There are no deep pockets, but you have put fear into the minds of a whole generation of New York journalists if you win.

    Peter Thiel's Gawker lawsuit left one of the writers destitute, and he's still in bad shape: I google him occasionally.

    Any Title IV sex case should immediately be turned into an off-campus civil lawsuit, not naming the school, only the accuser.

    Did some students wreak your anti-abortion display on campus? File an off-campus criminal complaint and then sue the students and their inciting professors, as John Does if necessary. Do not name the university in the lawsuit. If the university president makes a statement, sue him individually for libel in a separate case.

    This kind of strategic defendant targeting has all kinds of possibilities. Sanctuary cities? Border crossing immigrants? Did they wreck your lawn? Sue a thousand of them as John Does, depose local immigration attorneys, subpoena the cell phone footage of everyone in the area and of the press. If you ID some illegal aliens, harass them. Sue banks they use for money remittances. If they disappear, go nuclear in your collection efforts, suing resettlement organizations or whoever may know their whereabouts. File suits in Central American countries. You will get no money, but other benefits will accrue.

    I think this kind of thing could be a good project for a bored billionaire.

    No particular lawsuit would accomplish much, but it could be like an army of ants. Various categories of lawsuits could be refined and most of the work could be done by paralegals in India and the Philippines.

    This is not really the same thing, but I’ve always thought that the best approach to things is to target individuals whose lives you can well and fully destroy, rather than institutions. This gets around and creates a chilling effect.

    Alinsky had the same idea

  20. @CCZ
    But identifying gangs and gang members is a cause of the violence:

    “This is underscored by commentary by experts in the Chicago Reporter this week. They report that, as a result of the fragmentation of traditional gang structures, “gangs today are not so much the cause of violence as one of the effects of distressed communities,” and “high rates of violence are correlated more to conditions of concentrated African-American poverty than to gangs or drugs.” They argue that the low clearance rate for murders in Chicago indicates that the city’s “war on gangs” strategy is a failure.”

    “Rather than help prevent violence, the gang database has served to criminalize communities of color, including many individuals with no criminal associations."

    https://www.chicagoreporter.com/police-in-schools-gang-database-scandals-offer-lightfoot-first-test-on-reform/

    White gangs, however, are racist per se and need to be disbanded:

    US militias told to stand down after catching 300+ migrants

    US authorities are warning wannabe vigilantes against taking the law into their own hands after an armed militia group detained over 300 migrants earlier this week at the Mexican border in what they claimed was a citizen’s arrest.

    “These individuals should not attempt to exercise authority reserved for law enforcement,” New Mexico Attorney General Hector Balderas said in response to reports that members of the United Constitutional Patriots militia – which claims to be made up of ex-cops and veterans – had captured a massive group of illegal immigrants after they entered the US through a fence near the town of Sunland, New Mexico earlier this week.

    The American Civil Liberties Union wrote a letter to state government denouncing the militia for “undermin[ing] the legitimate efforts of our state’s law enforcement officials to keep New Mexico families safe.”

    A video of the mass arrest shows hundreds of migrants sitting and kneeling complacently as the camerawoman marvels at how many children and sick people are coming in “right through our backdoor.” “I don’t know what to say about this, other than the fact that it’s gotta stop,” she says. The lengthy clip, which was streamed live over Facebook, shows the Border Patrol arrive and walk the massive group through the desert. The militiamen appear to be on good terms with the Border Patrol officers.

    US Customs and Border Protection wouldn’t comment on the group specifically, but admonished would-be heroes to call 911 instead of taking matters into their own hands if they suspected illegal activity.

  21. @Hypnotoad666
    So Mr. Lathan ended up shot and in a wheel chair because he was hanging out with a known gang member.

    But the NYT's take-away from this incident is that it's just a silly rule to require parolees to stay away from gang members. That's about par for the course for them.

    Anti-incarceration seems to be their favorite new fad. It's basically a movement to just decriminalization crime.

    Eventually the crime rate in black neighborhoods will go off the charts and they will go back to claiming that racist whites are refusing to prevent crime in the 'hood.

    They’re already starting. I heard on a public radio show that Baltimore’s increased murders are from cops not being proactive enough. How to be effective without “violating the rights of people of color” was not really discussed by the POCs on the show.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Donut shops work.
  22. … According to a study by the Pew Charitable Trusts, about 20 percent of people released from state prisons are sent back for technical violations, meaning they did not commit a new crime but rather violated conditions, like a ban on entering places that serve alcohol or having any contact with the police — or, in the protracted case of the rapper Meek Mill, an order to take etiquette classes.

    They are intentionally obscure, but the Pew study also shows that over 20% of people released on parole are returned to prison for committing a new crime while on parole. And there are a not insignificant number of people who commit crimes but do not get their parole revoked.

    What the study doesn’t show is that some undetermined fraction of those who commit “technical violations” were also charged with new offenses, but it is much easier to send them back to prison for technical violations. Most parolees are in a constant state of violation, and the parole officers are on their backs encouraging them to get their shit together. They move around without telling their officers where they live, they associate with people they shouldn’t, they test positive for drugs, etc. When they get charged with a new offense, judges can send them back for a technical violation without the risk of later learning that the parolee was innocent of the new offense. Getting charged with a crime in itself is a violation, but it is constitutionally cleaner to just send them back on a technical violation.

  23. The fact that Hussle was so celebrated – and by figures like Obama – shows that the bar in America for blacks is set so low you could trip over it while standing still. I think most people would take this low level of expectations as a massive insult, and the Hussle story seems like the kind of thing Andy Rooney would have once teed off on. However these days no one in the media or politics has the stones to point out that when all you can point to are gangbanging rappers and sports stars as a community’s heroes, things are pretty far off the rails.

    • Replies: @notanon

    mourned with a 25-mile procession through the streets
     
    that means gang boss

    The fact that Hussle was so celebrated – and by figures like Obama
     
    major gang bosses are important politically
    , @South Texas Guy

    the Hussle story seems like the kind of thing Andy Rooney would have once teed off on
     
    He got in big trouble, and I believe was suspended from the show for a couple of weeks when he criticized Kurt Cobain and the culture that created him. You have to be pretty bulletproof to criticize Nipsey, et. al., to do that nowadays.

    Oh wait. As an aside, I read that Justin Bieber is demanding a boycott of Ingrahm because she said something negative about him. I have to wonder at what point the Murdoch scions will show their true colors and start firing FOX hosts.
  24. Steve, I just learned there is a Long Island Jewish rapper named Hoodie Allen.

  25. anon[332] • Disclaimer says:

    …I’m reminded of the long-forgotten Italian-American Civil Rights League.

    And, in turn, I’m reminded of the Black Panthers, and the free breakfasts they’d provide for disadvantaged youth. (Or whatever it was.)

    I’ve read random people on the internet claiming that groups like the Panthers and the Nation of Islam are just gangs like any other, running protection rackets, selling drugs, etc. I’d love someone with some knowledge of these groups and/or of how things really work in places like New York and Chicago to shed some light on the matter.

    The group then adopted the name “Italian-American Civil Rights League” after Colombo’s attorney, Barry Slotnick, had suggested it.

    I take the implication to be that Slotnick thought that a bunch of crooks calling themselves an “anti-defamation league” might cast the pre-existing organisation of the same name in a bad light.

    Serious question: did that pre-existing organisation have similar origins in organised crime? If every other ethnic protection group was a front for crooks, why should this one be any different?

  26. mass arrests to roll up all the members of the gang at once.

    It works.

    once you allow a gang culture to take root normal methods don’t work cos if you arrest one for something the other gang members intimidate the witnesses.

    despite the turn in his life.

    translation: becoming the boss so he no longer needed to get his hands dirty

  27. @Arclight
    The fact that Hussle was so celebrated - and by figures like Obama - shows that the bar in America for blacks is set so low you could trip over it while standing still. I think most people would take this low level of expectations as a massive insult, and the Hussle story seems like the kind of thing Andy Rooney would have once teed off on. However these days no one in the media or politics has the stones to point out that when all you can point to are gangbanging rappers and sports stars as a community's heroes, things are pretty far off the rails.

    mourned with a 25-mile procession through the streets

    that means gang boss

    The fact that Hussle was so celebrated – and by figures like Obama

    major gang bosses are important politically

  28. @Redneck farmer
    They're already starting. I heard on a public radio show that Baltimore's increased murders are from cops not being proactive enough. How to be effective without "violating the rights of people of color" was not really discussed by the POCs on the show.

    Donut shops work.

  29. @Digital Samizdat

    ... Kerry Lathan, recently released from prison and there to pick up a T-shirt.
     
    That elicited a chuckle: he was there to pick up a T-shirt rather than buy it? Did this guy actually put a T-shirt on layaway? Was this one expensive T-shirt--gold-plated with hydraulic suspension maybe?

    bored identity strongly believes that there are at least a couple dozen Husslemites laughing all the way to Nipsey’s grave site on a daily basis:

    Nipsey Hussle’s Marathon clothing is in high demand.

    Karen Civil sent out a tweet letting fans and followers know to buy “AUTHORIZED items from HIS BUSINESS” if people are looking to support Nipsey and everything he stood for.

    One user replied, simply stating she’s still “waiting on her package” which promoted Karen to follow-up with an update.

    “It’s coming! Please be patient literally over 2 million orders yours will come shortly they’ve been working 12 hours straight :)”

    https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/article/77680/

    Meanwhile, some obviously seamstressed 9 year Gangbangladeshi is dreaming of that big, beautifully borderless Nipsey Wonka Golden Ticket, while frantically running Crenshaw Redemption sweat-shirts through the sewing machine…

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    Again I say Nipsey’s “Crenshaw” logo is retardedly amateurish. Here’s an example of genius lettering (by the great Rick Griffin):
    https://images.proxibid.com/AuctionImages/6309/147147/FullSize/849o_1.jpg
  30. @Anonymous
    Mike Franzese was a member of the Colombo Family and famous for being one of the biggest earning mob guys of all time and not going into witness protection. He was also involved in movie production. He was interviewed recently and described being next to Joe Colombo when he got shot at the rally. There's other interesting stuff in the interview, like how Michael Jordan's father was killed over Michael's gambling debts to the mob, and how the mafia killed JFK:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEvYav8mFLQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt2k0SpaB1k

    So that’s why Michael Jordan’s father was killed. I remember the story reported was that is was just a random robbery and murder.

  31. A rapper helping an aspiring rapper achieve full fledged rapperhood by getting gunned down at his hands- the African American version of A STAR IS BORN.

  32. Anonymous[396] • Disclaimer says:

    If anything Nipsey’s greatest achievement was not being forced to change his name to something that didn’t offend the people who forced the Conference and Workshop on Neural Information Processing System(one of the most prestigious annual conferences in machine learning) to change its official acronym from NIPS to NeuRIPS. For that alone he should be revered.

  33. ==QUOTE== In the spring of 1971, the IACRL [Italian-American Civil Rights League] announced that it had purchased land for use as a summer camp, known as Camp Unity, in upstate Rosendale, New York. The camp covered 250 acres (1.0 km2) and was open to all underprivileged New York City youth, regardless of ethnic background.
    ==UNQUOTE==

    So what has become of Camp Unity in the last 48 years? Has it become a popular destination for NYC youngsters summering upstate? Fortunately, today we can look this up on Wikipedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosendale%2C_New_York

    That’s strange. Camp Unity is not listed among the highlights of this town of some 6,000 people.

  34. @bored identity
    bored identity strongly believes that there are at least a couple dozen Husslemites laughing all the way to Nipsey's grave site on a daily basis:



    Nipsey Hussle's Marathon clothing is in high demand.

    Karen Civil sent out a tweet letting fans and followers know to buy "AUTHORIZED items from HIS BUSINESS" if people are looking to support Nipsey and everything he stood for.

    One user replied, simply stating she's still "waiting on her package" which promoted Karen to follow-up with an update.

    "It’s coming! Please be patient literally over 2 million orders yours will come shortly they’ve been working 12 hours straight :)"

    https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/article/77680/

     

    Meanwhile, some obviously seamstressed 9 year Gangbangladeshi is dreaming of that big, beautifully borderless Nipsey Wonka Golden Ticket, while frantically running Crenshaw Redemption sweat-shirts through the sewing machine...

    Again I say Nipsey’s “Crenshaw” logo is retardedly amateurish. Here’s an example of genius lettering (by the great Rick Griffin):

  35. …or, in the protracted case of the rapper Meek Mill, an order to take etiquette classes.

    Hey– let’s try to be reasonable here; after all the guy’s name isn’t “Manners Mill”

  36. @Arclight
    The fact that Hussle was so celebrated - and by figures like Obama - shows that the bar in America for blacks is set so low you could trip over it while standing still. I think most people would take this low level of expectations as a massive insult, and the Hussle story seems like the kind of thing Andy Rooney would have once teed off on. However these days no one in the media or politics has the stones to point out that when all you can point to are gangbanging rappers and sports stars as a community's heroes, things are pretty far off the rails.

    the Hussle story seems like the kind of thing Andy Rooney would have once teed off on

    He got in big trouble, and I believe was suspended from the show for a couple of weeks when he criticized Kurt Cobain and the culture that created him. You have to be pretty bulletproof to criticize Nipsey, et. al., to do that nowadays.

    Oh wait. As an aside, I read that Justin Bieber is demanding a boycott of Ingrahm because she said something negative about him. I have to wonder at what point the Murdoch scions will show their true colors and start firing FOX hosts.

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