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From The Nation:

How the Alt-Right Uses Social Science to Make Racism Respectable

It’s a strategy long in the making.
By Khalil Gibran Muhammad

… These new white supremacists are coming not with tiki torches but with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures, to make palatable racist ideas that many people, deep down, have always felt were true. …

Khalil Gibran Muhammad is a professor of history, race and public policy at the Harvard Kennedy School, Suzanne Young Murray professor at the Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study, and author of The Condemnation of Blackness: Race, Crime and the Making of Modern Urban America .

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  1. Or maybe … “How Social Science is Making the Alt Right’s Claims Increasingly Plausible.”

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    "How empirical data and basic logic are making leftist dogma look increasingly absurd"
    , @ben tillman
    Of course, science and social science have always supported the Right's arguments regarding race. It's just that for 70 years the Left used a monopoly on the communications media and ethnopolitical activists masquerading as scientists to spread anti-white lies in place of the truth.

    Then came mass use of the Internet.

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  2. J.Ross says: • Website

    Literally “facts be raciss.”

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  3. Clyde says:

    Khalil Gibran Muhammad……what a boring writer. I could barely skim it.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    KG was a Christian so odd naming.
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  4. best to ignore Harvard’s social parasites (and I’m convinced AA has hurt its brand, as the school now is associated with the Obama family). The funny thing about these affirmative action lightweights is that they are convinced they are brilliant and relevant

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Would Dubya have gotten into Yale had he not been part of such a powerful, well-connected family? Letting unqualified students into elite schools based on whom they're related to was happening at least since Barack Obama was still a small child, and was almost certainly happening well before that.

    The problem with Harvard isn't that they occasionally admit [presumably] underqualified children of the elites, like Malia. It's that they let tremendously underqualified and socially-destructive people like "Khilal Muhammad" become professors.

    , @Lurker

    The funny thing about these affirmative action lightweights is that they are convinced they are brilliant and relevant
     
    I think that's part of the divide and rule strategy. Whites are denigrated and attacked unfairly while non-whites are flattered and applauded unfairly. The two strategies combined encourage resentment and mistrust.
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  5. neutral says:

    to make palatable racist ideas that many people, deep down, have always felt were true. …

    It’s not that deep down, unless one is an autist, observing the 100m sprints, the general wealth of different world regions, winners of maths olympiads, which city regions have high crime, etc – all of these indicate impossible to ignore truths. Everyone not in the autism spectrum is absolutely aware of these truths, even the most indoctrinated SJW is, we are not allowed to mention these truths out of great fear of our lives being destroyed. The idea of the races all being the same is ridiculous and almost all of us know it, only the few in this age are however brave enough to say it.

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    unless one is an autist,
     

    Everyone not in the autism spectrum is absolutely aware of these truths,
     
    No, it would be autistic people who care the most about the facts. Indeed, autists would care only about the facts, and not be concerned about people's emotional reactions to them.
    , @One in the Autism Spectrum
    Then there's the kind of autist which reads the data, and concludes that it's moral to treat the statistical negative people as second class citizens, until they disappear from the town, the country-side, or wherever you're in.

    I'm not shy, and I've read enough to know when to disparage statistically average bullshit, and whomever lets that kind of bullshit come out of one's mouth.
    , @RonaldB
    The only counter argument leftists have is, white discrimination is responsible for the low achievements and high criminality of the darker races.

    The claim can be easily refuted, but involves facts and logic chains. This goes beyond the attention span of most leftists, so in reality there is no way to communicate with them.
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  6. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Were this guy’s parents black hippies?

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    I know I've heard of this guy before, but upon looking him up, it seems he is the great-grandson of Elijah Mohammed. (And there's a story for those who have never looked into this before....)
    , @Anonymous
    IKR? Khalil Gibran Muhammad that not be yo' name byotch!
    , @Ed
    His great-grandfather is Elijah Muhammad of Nation of Islam and suspected Malcolm X murdering fame.
    , @Thirdtwin
    "The Prophet"...I remember that book on the coffee table when I was a kid in the sixties.
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  7. rogue-one says:

    I think Sailer talked about “political correctness being war on noticing.”

    People are noticing their countries degrading, applying theories from social science to explain the degradation but you are not supposed to do that. It is racist. So a harvard elite scolds them here.

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  8. Polynices says:

    That article almost reads like a parody of the kind of article that it is. Cites lots of facts and examples that the reader is just supposed to know are racist and wrong without explaining why.

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    Leftist minority professors engage in unconscious self parody on a regular basis. Because those racist facts that you aren't supposed to notice.....
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  9. rogue-one says:

    From the article:

    >“Does this writer not understand what a ‘Bell Curve’ distribution is?” asked a commenter called ZorbatheGreek.

    >Another, BadMonkey, wrote prophetically: “Liberalism will have to deal with race reality sooner or later.”

    >Taylor considers Charles Murray, co-author of The Bell Curve, “the best-known today of any American academic that writes seriously about racial differences and IQ.”

    >Far more important was Trayvon Martin; far more important was what happened in Ferguson” with the shooting death of Michael Brown. Taylor asserts that the media “played up some kind of vicious white racism” but that ordinary people are sick of it. He cites George Zimmerman’s acquittal and the Justice Department ruling that Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson was justified in Brown’s shooting as proof that it was all just “a baloney story.”

    The people he is condemning seem correct and far savvier than Mr. Harvard.

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  10. Anthony says:

    So who’s the “reality-based community” now?

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    I am very sad to say this, but when facts collide with strongly held opinions, the opinions almost always win out. This is true all over the political spectrum.

    Human nature.
    As the saying goes, it is far easier to fool someone than to convince someone he has been fooled.
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  11. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Were this guy's parents black hippies?

    I know I’ve heard of this guy before, but upon looking him up, it seems he is the great-grandson of Elijah Mohammed. (And there’s a story for those who have never looked into this before….)

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  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Were this guy's parents black hippies?

    IKR? Khalil Gibran Muhammad that not be yo’ name byotch!

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  13. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    white supremacists are coming not with tiki torches but with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures,

    Reasoned arguments, facts and figures are the very core of what they call “supremacism” but as we all know, the only appropriate response is violence, sanctioned by the State, Google and Facebook–which are all distinct entities for the time being.

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  14. Says a guy whose family have been actively engaged in promoting black supremacism since 1934.

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  15. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The insidious white supremacy that lurks in the hearts of “‘normal ass white people’”, the “disease” that must be “cured”: they didn’t approve of railroading George Zimmerman and Darren Brown and they’re just virtue-signalling about subjecting their kids to blacks in schools.

    while white liberals have the luxury of deciding whether to maintain a fight against this white-nationalist threat, black people don’t; neither do Mexican Americans, Muslim Americans, or any number of immigrants. The question of “normalizing” hate can only be asked from a position of relative safety and naïveté.

    But what he asks of whites is that they ignore the facts and risk their safety.

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    Darren Brown

    It's Darren Wilson.
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  16. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    If I am not mistaken, the article by Mr. Muhammad is even more absurd than Steve lets on.

    It seems to be about a “panel discussion” at Harvard:

    http://iop.harvard.edu/forum/im-not-racist-examining-white-nationalist-efforts-normalize-hate

    The participants are: 1) Mr. Muhammad himself, whose public profile seems at least partially dependent on his being descended from the first “black” leader of the Nation of Islam, an arguably “black racist” sect; 2) Derek Black, son of Stormfront founder and “white nationalist” Don Black, who was an acolyte of his father until seemingly having been induced to “reject racism” by his liberal arts college associates (a transition that goes unmentioned by Mr. Muhammed); and 3) Elle Reeve, the Vice News reporter who reported on the Charlottesville incident, and has been accused of having been somewhat infatuated with one of the main actors there, Chris Cantwell.

    The article reveals nothing of the strange dynamics of this actual discussion.

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  17. syonredux says:

    These new white supremacists are coming not with tiki torches but with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures, to make palatable racist ideas that many people, deep down, have always felt were true. …

    My God…..How twisted can the Alt-Right can be…..To actually use reasoned arguments that are buttressed by facts and figure….

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    Buttressed? I love the way Liberals reach for out-of-fashion terminology, like trope and canard......
    ....what do buttresses support? - Walls, yikes!!! especially lots of White Christian Walls throughout Europe's remarkable heritage of gothicness.

    Reasoning that is buttressed must be white supremacist!

    , @Curtis Mouser
    Facts n figs beez waycis y'all.
    , @J1234

    How twisted can the Alt-Right can be…..To actually use reasoned arguments that are buttressed by facts and figures….
     
    Yes! How dare them!

    That's like the argument that civility is a show of white privilege. Facts, figures and civility caused slavery, you know.

    , @NOTA
    To be fair, as far as the average journalist is concerned, using techniques from a first year stat class, plus looking up official numbers from government websites, is Voldemort-level use of the dark arts. For some reason, journalists are basically all innumerate and most are technophobes. It must feel terribly unfair when someone expects them to understand the difference between the mean and the whole population, or think in terms of overlapping bell curves—the way I’d feel if every political discussion required an understanding of string theory or something.
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  18. bomag says:

    This article, like the Narrative in general, surfs on the elision of White supremacy (bad) = white nationalism (bad) = white people in general (bad); and that is the only evil we have to talk about, nothing else is important enough to notice.

    Thus we get, “And while white liberals have the luxury of deciding whether to maintain a fight against this white-nationalist threat, black people don’t; neither do Mexican Americans, Muslim Americans, or any number of immigrants. ” Along with casting immigrants as another socio-political group aligned against whites, it carves out GoodWhites as a sanctified group in a holy alliance with POC to stamp out a universal evil; also avoiding any indication that the various POC groups pose any kind of racial/ethnic threat.

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  19. Romanian says: • Website

    He seems to have assimilated well! Learned his cues to navigate American society and claw his way up – the bromides, the mercenary piety etc.

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  20. The interesting question now becomes, “What do you do when you’ve won all the arguments, when you have all the facts, when everybody ‘deep down’ knows you’re right, but the other side still won’t surrender the field?”

    Winning is going to require the Alt-Right to actually exercise some political muscle, and we need to start thinking seriously about how that can happen.

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    I enjoy your sense of humor.
    , @27 year old
    First, we can't have unrealistic expectations. The victories the other side won took them many years and we can't expect to win it all back overnight with one weird tip.

    I would reconsider your premise that having facts and being right have any bearing on control of "the field", and/or reevaluate your definition of "the field".

    Getting them to admit that we're right about race and IQ isn't winning. Being right doesn't make right, might still makes right. They hate us and want us dead and our kids raped and in poverty. They will continue to invent new justifications for their goals.

    And finally, political muscle doesn't get us anywhere if we still obey decrees by random judges nobody has heard of.

    , @unpc downunder
    The problem in the Anglosphere is there is no political means of promoting alt-right policies. In Europe, there is proportional representation, which allows for the growth of populist parties. In turn, this also promotes the development of cultural movements like the identitarians. In contrast, British and American democracy is designed to preserve the status quo, which over the last 40 years has come to mean an economy run by the liberal right and a society run by the liberal left.
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  21. That’s a strange kind of supremacism when the claim is that we’re not #1.

    I assume he talking about IQ.

    Our racist beliefs put Ashkenzi Jews top overall with Far East Asians having a slight edge in STEM subjects.

    If we’re making things up, wouldn’t we put ourselves as #1?

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  22. Isolee says:

    From the article:

    He also promulgates long-discredited theories that race and IQ are the best predictors of human capacity.

    Again, we find this curious notion among the left that repeatedly, baldly stating that IQ studies are “discredited” will somehow make them so.

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    baldly stating that IQ studies are “discredited”
     
    After publication of The Bell Curve, all the critical reviews I read droned on about how the data was bad; sample sizes were too small; etc.

    Instead of being refutations, they were really calls for more and better data.

    And as more and better data accumulates, the critics just announce that they are against the results for political reasons.
    , @ben tillman

    Again, we find this curious notion among the left that repeatedly, baldly stating that IQ studies are “discredited” will somehow make them so.
     
    That's how public discrediting is accomplished.
    , @Pericles

    baldly stating that IQ studies are “discredited” will somehow make them so.

     

    "I discredit them, thus!" (waves hand)
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  23. helena says:
    @syonredux

    These new white supremacists are coming not with tiki torches but with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures, to make palatable racist ideas that many people, deep down, have always felt were true. …
     
    My God.....How twisted can the Alt-Right can be.....To actually use reasoned arguments that are buttressed by facts and figure....

    Buttressed? I love the way Liberals reach for out-of-fashion terminology, like trope and canard……
    ….what do buttresses support? – Walls, yikes!!! especially lots of White Christian Walls throughout Europe’s remarkable heritage of gothicness.

    Reasoning that is buttressed must be white supremacist!

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  24. Mr. Anon says:

    These new white supremacists are coming not with tiki torches but with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures,…………..

    First there was Hate-Speech.

    Then there were Hate-Facts.

    Now there is Hate-Reason.

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  25. anon • Disclaimer says: • Website

    … are coming not with tiki torches

    Tiki torches? Like at Trader Vics or a backyard barbecue? What if they had Don Ho albums too!

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    • Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown
    1. Re-branding from "Alt-Right" to "Aloha-Right" would probably make them seem less scary to normies. One can only conclude that if Richard Spencer had offered those Virginia State Troopers a pu-pu platter, things would have turned out much differently.

    2. Has there been any economic analysis on Tiki Brand's absolute monopoly on the modern torch market? I'd wager the guys who marched in Charlottesville would have rather carried "Teuton Torches" or "Thule Torches", but they don't exist. If you want to purchase a torch, your options are extremely limited in the current year.
    , @stillCARealist
    Did you mean Trader Joe's? Trader Vic's was a bar in SF that Herb Cain drank in in the 80's. He loved to mention it in his columns.
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  26. He seems close to getting things right at times and – fails profoundly anyway. Reminds me of Stan and Ollie.

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  27. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    The interesting question now becomes, "What do you do when you've won all the arguments, when you have all the facts, when everybody 'deep down' knows you're right, but the other side still won't surrender the field?"

    Winning is going to require the Alt-Right to actually exercise some political muscle, and we need to start thinking seriously about how that can happen.

    I enjoy your sense of humor.

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  28. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Shortly after the Zimmerman verdict, my wife Stephanie and our children attended a bar mitzvah for the son of some dear friends down the block.

    Now don’t that just say it all?

    And while white liberals have the luxury of deciding whether to maintain a fight against this white-nationalist threat, black people don’t; neither do Mexican Americans, Muslim Americans, or any number of immigrants.

    Any number? Say, 50 million? 100 million?

    BTW, 46 scripts, sniffer apps, what have you on that page. They’re so enlightened! I used to subscribe to that rag, I’m embarrassed to admit.

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  29. JackOH says:

    “We are giving in to the deepest [W]hite [S]upremacy. We are in a struggle against greed, hatred, and violence.”

    So said the Rev. Dr. Willie James Jennings at an MLK, Jr. Sunday service and quoted in my local newspaper yesterday. Dr. Jennings is identified as an associate professor of systematic theology and Africana studies at Yale.

    A Central European politician ninety years ago got good mileage out of bashing the greed and manipulativeness of an ethnic sub-group to prep the way for his own notions of Aryan Supremacy.

    Black Supremacy, that mash-up of “We’re #1″ ideas, is no laughing matter. It’s utilitarian rhetoric and one-sided argumentation in the extreme. “Civil rights” these days isn’t about rectification of injustices meted out to Black folks, but about laying the groundwork for Black minority rule.

    (BTW-I heard Cokie Roberts speak earlier this month. An immensely charming woman and engaging speaker, she nonetheless pushed the feminist party line. Everything will be better when women displace men in politics. She didn’t use “displace”, but that’s where she was headed. Plenty of Blacks and women have entered politics the last forty years, and I’m not seeing any betterment at all. Maybe I missed the memo.)

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    QUOTE: I heard Cokie Roberts speak earlier this month.

    Having one's father assassinated makes a person a tad more cautious.
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  30. Shouldn’t he refute the racists with reasoned counter-arguments, buttressed by facts and figures? That should be easy for a Harvard professor.

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  31. “These new white supremacists are coming not with tiki torches but with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures…”

    But wait, I thought the left “f*cking loved science” and it was the so-called right wing religious “wingnuts” who dismissed facts and figures. If those facts and figures are in fact factual (hehe), then maybe writers like this need to have a big re-think about what’s what.

    Or are facts and figures the next thing that the left plans on banning?

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    “These new white supremacists are coming not with tiki torches but with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures…”

    But wait, I thought the left “f*cking loved science” and it was the so-called right wing religious “wingnuts” who dismissed facts and figures. If those facts and figures are in fact factual (hehe), then maybe writers like this need to have a big re-think about what’s what.

    Or are facts and figures the next thing that the left plans on banning?
     

    They were banned from the public square in the 1930's, although rearguard truth-telling in public went on until 1964 [Stell v. Savannah-Chatham County Board of Education, 333 F.2d 55 (5th Cir. 1964)]:

    The appeal in the Savannah case is from an order of the District Court denying a preliminary injunction against the continued operation of a compulsory biracial school system. The denial was based on the affirmative defense, asserted by white intervenors, that disparate scores as between white and Negro pupils made on educational achievement and psychometric intelligence tests given in the Savannah schools warranted the classification of the schools for rational educational purposes on a basis which resulted only incidentally in a system separate for white and Negro children.
     

    The Fifth Circuit reversed, and the fight was lost.
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  32. Ed says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Were this guy's parents black hippies?

    His great-grandfather is Elijah Muhammad of Nation of Islam and suspected Malcolm X murdering fame.

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    If his great grandpa had kept his real name, would little Khalil actually be called Khalil Gibran Poole? The honorable was named Elijah Robert Poole, and renamed himself Muhammed.

    I'll bet his homies kept calling him Lige Poole. Imagine one of them telling him, "' Muhammed my ass. Til yo ass rides up in here on a camel, I'm goan call you Poole."

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  33. Coemgen says:

    To a “cargo cultist” facts and figures are the same as superstitions and beliefs.

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  34. @syonredux

    These new white supremacists are coming not with tiki torches but with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures, to make palatable racist ideas that many people, deep down, have always felt were true. …
     
    My God.....How twisted can the Alt-Right can be.....To actually use reasoned arguments that are buttressed by facts and figure....

    Facts n figs beez waycis y’all.

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  35. JMcG says:

    Tiki torches?

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  36. Arclight says:

    Saw Bret Weinstein says he reluctantly supports looking more into IQ differences – because if the left is going to treat any differences in outcomes between different groups as ironclad evidence of racism, then it makes sense to investigate all possible reasons for the disparities to see if they are right.

    It seems possible that in the next decade, more and more left-leaning intellectuals (at least those without “studies” in the title of their degrees) are going to grapple with this issue and won’t like what they find.

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    It seems possible that in the next decade, more and more left-leaning intellectuals (at least those without “studies” in the title of their degrees) are going to grapple with this issue and won’t like what they find.
     
    the percentage who genuinely want to solve problems (as opposed to virtue signalers, cheap labor advocates etc) have no choice but to accept heredity as the driving factor.
    , @gunner29

    Saw Bret Weinstein says he reluctantly supports looking more into IQ differences – because if the left is going to treat any differences in outcomes between different groups as ironclad evidence of racism, then it makes sense to investigate all possible reasons for the disparities to see if they are right.

    It seems possible that in the next decade, more and more left-leaning intellectuals (at least those without “studies” in the title of their degrees) are going to grapple with this issue and won’t like what they find.
     
    Unfortunately it will never happen. There will probably be some lone wolves that will. But in private and not mentioned to any other lefty.

    First one that comes out is shouted down by the rest of the mob and thrown out of the left. That will be sufficient warning for any other heretics.

    The Thought Police are strong on the left....
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  37. anon • Disclaimer says:

    At the reception, people chatted over cocktails, and another neighbor—whose son is friends with our son—expressed his support for the acquittal, insisting that Zimmerman had killed Martin in self-defense. “I was taken aback,” Stephanie recalls. Our neighbor had “no discernible empathy for Trayvon.”

    I don’t know whether the kid has empathy for a guy who took it upon himself to pin someone to the ground and hit his head against a sidewalk, but isn’t it at least possible that he did have some empathy, but still realized that the evidence showed it to be an open-and-shut case?

    Aren’t they sort of painting themselves into a corner here, by dividing the world into either a) white supremacists or b) people who are so in favor of black violence that they don’t think whites should be allowed to defend themselves from it? Of the two, white supremacism seems to be the much better option.

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    Trayvon looks like he was probably just been a dumb kid who freaked out about being followed, jumped Zimmerman, and got shot. The whole thing looks more like idiot-meets-idiot tragedy than any particular malevolence. By contrast, Brown looks to have actually been a criminal looking for trouble—there was physical evidence of him struggling with Wilson for his gun. I’ve got a lot more sympathy for Trayvon (teenaged bravado leads you to disaster—that could definitely have happened to me as a kid) than Brown (criminal runs up against a cop, tries to take the cop’s gun, and gets shot for his troubles.)
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  38. to make palatable racist ideas that many people, deep down, have always felt were true. …

    Does “make” modify “palatable” or “ideas”? LOL. Maybe if he were a different race/ethnicity, he could tell us.

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  39. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde
    Khalil Gibran Muhammad......what a boring writer. I could barely skim it.

    KG was a Christian so odd naming.

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  40. bomag says:
    @Isolee
    From the article:


    He also promulgates long-discredited theories that race and IQ are the best predictors of human capacity.
     
    Again, we find this curious notion among the left that repeatedly, baldly stating that IQ studies are "discredited" will somehow make them so.

    baldly stating that IQ studies are “discredited”

    After publication of The Bell Curve, all the critical reviews I read droned on about how the data was bad; sample sizes were too small; etc.

    Instead of being refutations, they were really calls for more and better data.

    And as more and better data accumulates, the critics just announce that they are against the results for political reasons.

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    Most of the reviews I read of the Bell Curve made it clear the reviewers either hadn’t bothered to read the book, or had already decided what their review would say before they read it and so ignored its actual content. This was enormously valuable to me in learning how much faith to put in mainstream media reviews of politically controversial books.
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  41. @Ed
    His great-grandfather is Elijah Muhammad of Nation of Islam and suspected Malcolm X murdering fame.

    If his great grandpa had kept his real name, would little Khalil actually be called Khalil Gibran Poole? The honorable was named Elijah Robert Poole, and renamed himself Muhammed.

    I’ll bet his homies kept calling him Lige Poole. Imagine one of them telling him, “‘ Muhammed my ass. Til yo ass rides up in here on a camel, I’m goan call you Poole.”

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  42. Dr. X says:

    These new white supremacists are coming not with tiki torches but with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures…

    Well, of course. He’s on the faculty at Harvard. The last thing he’d be interested in is “reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures.”

    Harvard (despite its oxymoronic motto “Veritas”) has nothing to do with reason, facts, or objective knowledge. It’s a seminary to train elites for priesthood in the official state religion of multicultural egalitarianism.

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    well the joint started as a seminary in 1636. In their DNA perhaps?

    "Harvard: Lecturing the rest of us for 382 years"
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  43. AndrewR says:
    @Peter Johnson
    Or maybe ... "How Social Science is Making the Alt Right's Claims Increasingly Plausible."

    “How empirical data and basic logic are making leftist dogma look increasingly absurd”

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  44. AndrewR says:
    @Meretricious
    best to ignore Harvard's social parasites (and I'm convinced AA has hurt its brand, as the school now is associated with the Obama family). The funny thing about these affirmative action lightweights is that they are convinced they are brilliant and relevant

    Would Dubya have gotten into Yale had he not been part of such a powerful, well-connected family? Letting unqualified students into elite schools based on whom they’re related to was happening at least since Barack Obama was still a small child, and was almost certainly happening well before that.

    The problem with Harvard isn’t that they occasionally admit [presumably] underqualified children of the elites, like Malia. It’s that they let tremendously underqualified and socially-destructive people like “Khilal Muhammad” become professors.

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    Dub ya met the SAT score and GPA requirements for Yale.
    , @Art Deco
    Would Dubya have gotten into Yale had he not been part of such a powerful, well-connected family?


    It's a reasonable wager he would have. His academic record there and at Harvard Business School was adequate (better than Al Gore's and John Kerry's, for example). It was during the 1st two decades after the war that selective schools were making use of college boards to redistribute admissions slots from those who'd followed a specific preparatory program (offered at boarding schools) to those who demonstrated general aptitude on standardized tests.



    Not sure how much 'power' a retired member of Congress has (as opposed to entree).
    , @Meretricious
    I bet Malia Obama's IQ is about 100--yes, she's tremendously underqualified for Harvard. Why do you think she's majoring in film--as an undergrad?
    , @Anonymous
    If it makes you feel better, W would never get into Yale today. Even the strength of legacy status, and even if he were a notable athlete as well (which to my knowledge he wasn't). He was fortunate to make the very last cohort of admits before academic standards tightened. They've continued tightening ever since and the only real way around them is if you are an 'URM'--and even then you'll have to be fairly accomplished.

    The competition is ridiculous. Yale and its peers can't afford at admit students who can't hack the workload, for one thing. It looks bad when they wash out in wildly disproportionate numbers. When they just barely skirt the standards for the sake of 'optics' they end up with the likes of Jerelyn Luther and her homies. Bad news all around, but the only other way is to get some of those black immigrants. Everyone wants them too, though.

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  45. The Alt-Right is a lot bigger than the corporate propaganda whores and the overpaid arseholes in academia think. All the Alt-Right is is people who believe that European Christians are the ancestral core of the United States, and that these White Core Americans have interests just like other racial groups.

    The name Alt-Right specifically refers to the rejection of anti-White neo-conservatism and anti-White Chamber of Commerce conservatism. The Alt-Right rejects the authority or the so-called “leadership” of the donor-controlled Republican Party ruling class.

    The Alt-Right is the most powerful force in American politics today. The future belongs to the Alt-Right in all European Christian nations. Indeed, in Germany, the Alternative for Deutschland(AfD) political party will soon be the kingmaker in Germany.

    In the United States, France, Germany, England, Australia, Russia, the Netherlands, Denmark and other European Christian nations, the old political order that pushed nation-wrecking mass immigration, sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams and globalization is about to be wiped out. The Alt-Right is well-placed to emerge as the ruling power wherever the European Christian people call home.

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    In the United States, France, Germany, England, Australia, Russia, the Netherlands, Denmark and other European Christian nations, the old political order that pushed nation-wrecking mass immigration, sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams and globalization is about to be wiped out. The Alt-Right is well-placed to emerge as the ruling power wherever the European Christian people call home.
     
    I don't know what you're smoking but it's good stuff.

    In Australia I can assure you that the old political order that pushed nation-wrecking mass immigration, sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams and globalization is still in absolute control. And if you're imagining Australia as a place that European Christian people call home you're delusional. Christianity is as dead as a doornail in Australia.

    One of the things that amazes me about the alt-right is the insane degree of over-confidence and wishful thinking.
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  46. @anon

    … are coming not with tiki torches
     
    Tiki torches? Like at Trader Vics or a backyard barbecue? What if they had Don Ho albums too!

    1. Re-branding from “Alt-Right” to “Aloha-Right” would probably make them seem less scary to normies. One can only conclude that if Richard Spencer had offered those Virginia State Troopers a pu-pu platter, things would have turned out much differently.

    2. Has there been any economic analysis on Tiki Brand’s absolute monopoly on the modern torch market? I’d wager the guys who marched in Charlottesville would have rather carried “Teuton Torches” or “Thule Torches”, but they don’t exist. If you want to purchase a torch, your options are extremely limited in the current year.

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  47. @Peter Johnson
    Or maybe ... "How Social Science is Making the Alt Right's Claims Increasingly Plausible."

    Of course, science and social science have always supported the Right’s arguments regarding race. It’s just that for 70 years the Left used a monopoly on the communications media and ethnopolitical activists masquerading as scientists to spread anti-white lies in place of the truth.

    Then came mass use of the Internet.

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    Which is why they'll stop at nothing to get this internet 'free speech' thing under control. It threatens to undermine their death grip on the flow of 'information'.
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  48. Thirdtwin says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Were this guy's parents black hippies?

    “The Prophet”…I remember that book on the coffee table when I was a kid in the sixties.

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  49. Tulip says:

    I have said this before: the only way to deal with heretics, especially so-called “scientific heretics”, is to burn them at the stake. You can suppress their work, but if it is supposedly “empirical” and based on say 100 years of replicated “scientific research”, they can still disseminate their ideas, and their research program can be re-discovered. (Look what happened with heliocentrism when the Church went softball on Galileo?)

    Burn the books, burn the heretics, make their research inquiries taboo, equality for all! I F#$%ing love science!

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  50. @Days of Broken Arrows
    "These new white supremacists are coming not with tiki torches but with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures..."

    But wait, I thought the left "f*cking loved science" and it was the so-called right wing religious "wingnuts" who dismissed facts and figures. If those facts and figures are in fact factual (hehe), then maybe writers like this need to have a big re-think about what's what.

    Or are facts and figures the next thing that the left plans on banning?

    “These new white supremacists are coming not with tiki torches but with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures…”

    But wait, I thought the left “f*cking loved science” and it was the so-called right wing religious “wingnuts” who dismissed facts and figures. If those facts and figures are in fact factual (hehe), then maybe writers like this need to have a big re-think about what’s what.

    Or are facts and figures the next thing that the left plans on banning?

    They were banned from the public square in the 1930′s, although rearguard truth-telling in public went on until 1964 [Stell v. Savannah-Chatham County Board of Education, 333 F.2d 55 (5th Cir. 1964)]:

    The appeal in the Savannah case is from an order of the District Court denying a preliminary injunction against the continued operation of a compulsory biracial school system. The denial was based on the affirmative defense, asserted by white intervenors, that disparate scores as between white and Negro pupils made on educational achievement and psychometric intelligence tests given in the Savannah schools warranted the classification of the schools for rational educational purposes on a basis which resulted only incidentally in a system separate for white and Negro children.

    The Fifth Circuit reversed, and the fight was lost.

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  51. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “…Don Black, the founder of Stormfront.org, the oldest and one of the most influential hate sites on the Internet…” (quoting from the beginning of the very first paragraph of the article). Note the phrase “hate sites”, a classic use of the so-called “planted axiom.”

    You could’ve have stopped right there (as I did).

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  52. @Anonymous
    The insidious white supremacy that lurks in the hearts of "'normal ass white people'", the "disease" that must be "cured": they didn't approve of railroading George Zimmerman and Darren Brown and they're just virtue-signalling about subjecting their kids to blacks in schools.

    while white liberals have the luxury of deciding whether to maintain a fight against this white-nationalist threat, black people don’t; neither do Mexican Americans, Muslim Americans, or any number of immigrants. The question of “normalizing” hate can only be asked from a position of relative safety and naïveté.
     
    But what he asks of whites is that they ignore the facts and risk their safety.

    Darren Brown

    It’s Darren Wilson.

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  54. @Isolee
    From the article:


    He also promulgates long-discredited theories that race and IQ are the best predictors of human capacity.
     
    Again, we find this curious notion among the left that repeatedly, baldly stating that IQ studies are "discredited" will somehow make them so.

    Again, we find this curious notion among the left that repeatedly, baldly stating that IQ studies are “discredited” will somehow make them so.

    That’s how public discrediting is accomplished.

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  55. @Intelligent Dasein
    The interesting question now becomes, "What do you do when you've won all the arguments, when you have all the facts, when everybody 'deep down' knows you're right, but the other side still won't surrender the field?"

    Winning is going to require the Alt-Right to actually exercise some political muscle, and we need to start thinking seriously about how that can happen.

    First, we can’t have unrealistic expectations. The victories the other side won took them many years and we can’t expect to win it all back overnight with one weird tip.

    I would reconsider your premise that having facts and being right have any bearing on control of “the field”, and/or reevaluate your definition of “the field”.

    Getting them to admit that we’re right about race and IQ isn’t winning. Being right doesn’t make right, might still makes right. They hate us and want us dead and our kids raped and in poverty. They will continue to invent new justifications for their goals.

    And finally, political muscle doesn’t get us anywhere if we still obey decrees by random judges nobody has heard of.

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    And finally, political muscle doesn’t get us anywhere if we still obey decrees by random judges nobody has heard of.

     

    President Andrew Jackson: "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"

    IMPEACH THE JUDGES NOW!

    President Trump has a painting of Andrew Jackson on the wall of the Oval Office. Trump must attack the federal judges who presume to make immigration law in the United States.
    , @dfordoom

    First, we can’t have unrealistic expectations. The victories the other side won took them many years and we can’t expect to win it all back overnight
     
    The other side also had lots of allies among the elites of the past. They were not a tiny fringe group with no money and no useful elite connections.

    In the case of the US there never was any organised conservative opposition because conservatism has never existed in the US. What Americans call conservatism is in fact liberalism. It's right-wing liberalism. But it's still liberalism. The establishment always was liberal.

    So it's hardly surprising that the liberal establishment was willing to allow more extreme liberals to gradually take over academia, the media, the bureaucracy, the education system.

    Hollywood was solidly liberal by the end of the 1920s, if not earlier.

    There was no sudden left/liberal takeover in the 60s. What actually happened was a power struggle within the existing elite.

    It was much the same in other western countries. The last British Conservative Party leader who could be described as an actual conservative was Lord Salisbury in the late 19th century. Liberalism was in control of the British elites by the beginning of the 20th century.

    Since the alt-right has zero representation within the currently existing elite they have zero political muscle to flex.
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  56. notanon says:

    our entire civilization has been gas-lighted into believing in the blank slate nonsense – which is a cultural Marxist lie invented in the 1920s to change US immigration policy.

    all the alt-right does is tell the truth about heredity.

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  57. njguy73 says:
    @neutral

    to make palatable racist ideas that many people, deep down, have always felt were true. …
     
    It's not that deep down, unless one is an autist, observing the 100m sprints, the general wealth of different world regions, winners of maths olympiads, which city regions have high crime, etc - all of these indicate impossible to ignore truths. Everyone not in the autism spectrum is absolutely aware of these truths, even the most indoctrinated SJW is, we are not allowed to mention these truths out of great fear of our lives being destroyed. The idea of the races all being the same is ridiculous and almost all of us know it, only the few in this age are however brave enough to say it.

    unless one is an autist,

    Everyone not in the autism spectrum is absolutely aware of these truths,

    No, it would be autistic people who care the most about the facts. Indeed, autists would care only about the facts, and not be concerned about people’s emotional reactions to them.

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  58. Altai says:

    Alternative hypothesis: Most of the people you describe as ‘alt-right’ were brought up in middle class and up homes and were taught and accepted your cant because they weren’t naturally fanatically ethnocentric. Observable reality and a terrible habit of pattern recognition and curiosity about the world intruded and they now have a conclusion about the world that is of no direct benefit to them, indeed it is harmful and to state openly would make them a social pariah, many would gladly jettison if somebody could prove it otherwise.

    Nobody wants to be a ‘Nazi’, just like nobody wants to believe there is no life after death.

    You have to face up that the stated justifications for the current order are built on clear lies. That you also sneered and insulted the very demographic required to keep the whole thing going smoothly was also probably a bad idea.

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  59. notanon says:
    @Arclight
    Saw Bret Weinstein says he reluctantly supports looking more into IQ differences - because if the left is going to treat any differences in outcomes between different groups as ironclad evidence of racism, then it makes sense to investigate all possible reasons for the disparities to see if they are right.

    It seems possible that in the next decade, more and more left-leaning intellectuals (at least those without "studies" in the title of their degrees) are going to grapple with this issue and won't like what they find.

    It seems possible that in the next decade, more and more left-leaning intellectuals (at least those without “studies” in the title of their degrees) are going to grapple with this issue and won’t like what they find.

    the percentage who genuinely want to solve problems (as opposed to virtue signalers, cheap labor advocates etc) have no choice but to accept heredity as the driving factor.

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  60. @27 year old
    First, we can't have unrealistic expectations. The victories the other side won took them many years and we can't expect to win it all back overnight with one weird tip.

    I would reconsider your premise that having facts and being right have any bearing on control of "the field", and/or reevaluate your definition of "the field".

    Getting them to admit that we're right about race and IQ isn't winning. Being right doesn't make right, might still makes right. They hate us and want us dead and our kids raped and in poverty. They will continue to invent new justifications for their goals.

    And finally, political muscle doesn't get us anywhere if we still obey decrees by random judges nobody has heard of.

    And finally, political muscle doesn’t get us anywhere if we still obey decrees by random judges nobody has heard of.

    President Andrew Jackson: “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!”

    IMPEACH THE JUDGES NOW!

    President Trump has a painting of Andrew Jackson on the wall of the Oval Office. Trump must attack the federal judges who presume to make immigration law in the United States.

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  61. Tulip says:

    I personally think this is all a result of the Left in the West not getting fully behind Comrade Lysenko, who was absolutely right that genetics is not compatible with dialectical materialism, or any form of ideology based on the blank slate. Genetics is “Alt-Right”.

    Unless we root out the “science” of genetics and the “Bourgeois/Genetic theory” of evolution, we will never escape the threat to equality. As usual, Stalin was right, at least with respect to the political and ideological calculus.

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    Steve has got to do a post on Lysenko sometime. I mean it just shows there's nothing new under the sun.
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  62. The left is trying to reconcile its contradictions, as was apparent in the Steven Pinker statement recently linked at iSteve.

    –He acknowledges that many of the hate-facts that place people on the alt-right are correct.
    –He acknowledges that progressives refuse to accept those facts and actively suppress them, going so far as to punish those who hold them.
    –Pinker suggests that progressives need to acknowledge those facts but steer alt-right people away from the logical inferences drawn from them that he considers radical and dangerous.

    How to do this? As explained in a recent NYT op-ed, “For example, while at the moment it’s true that, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the homicide rate is higher for blacks than for whites, that doesn’t really tell us anything about a group of people since at different times in history, different groups have had elevated crime rates — at one point Irish-Americans did.”

    The alt-right view is grounded in reality, while Pinker’s rebuttal is wishful thinking–”You’re wrong to think this because I can imagine a future where your view is not correct.” He thinks that reflecting on the fact that the Irish used to be especially violent should make us confident that blacks may someday not be so violent. But there’s no logic in this, it’s a false equivalence. It’s like Obama saying that because the Italians and Irish assimilated, then we should expect Muslims and Mexicans to assimilate too, without acknowledging that blacks and American Indians have never really assimilated.

    The situation parallels that of the Church confronting Galileo, its chief concern being that that to acknowledge the fact that the earth rotates around the sun would weaken religious faith among the masses and therefore it was best to suppress it.

    Nevertheless, I don’t expect any cessation of the attempt to suppress any facts considered heretical by the Progressive religious faith.

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    The situation parallels that of the Church confronting Galileo, its chief concern being that that to acknowledge the fact that the earth rotates around the sun would weaken religious faith among the masses and therefore it was best to suppress it.
     
    That wasn't the issue at all.
    , @NOTA
    Pinker, Weinstein, Paige Harden, etc., are exactly what we need in the world—liberal thinkers coming to grips with the implications of hbd ideas, and trying to work through the implications for policy and for society. If we thing hbd yields some true insights (I do), then we want smart people all over the political spectrum to be using them to think through what we should do about them. That’s how things get better—liberals will think about an entirely different set of problems and questions than conservatives or libertarians when faced with the insights of hbd, and will be inclined to correct our blind spots.
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  63. Pericles says:
    @Isolee
    From the article:


    He also promulgates long-discredited theories that race and IQ are the best predictors of human capacity.
     
    Again, we find this curious notion among the left that repeatedly, baldly stating that IQ studies are "discredited" will somehow make them so.

    baldly stating that IQ studies are “discredited” will somehow make them so.

    “I discredit them, thus!” (waves hand)

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  64. white supremacists are coming … with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures,

    My God! That’s awful, just awful! (Clutches pearls)

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  65. @anon

    … are coming not with tiki torches
     
    Tiki torches? Like at Trader Vics or a backyard barbecue? What if they had Don Ho albums too!

    Did you mean Trader Joe’s? Trader Vic’s was a bar in SF that Herb Cain drank in in the 80′s. He loved to mention it in his columns.

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    No, he meant Trader Vic's, where I once saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada.
    , @Anonymous
    Trader Vic’s became a collection of franchised, ersatz-upscale theme restaurants / watering holes where sleazy 'businessmen' and old, washed-up actors took their very young 'dates' to impress them before, well, you know.

    They were embarrassingly kitschy and the food was by all accounts mediocre at best but they occupied prime real estate in several cities. Apparently they were considered stylish in the 1940s and 50s.


    OT but I don't know why so many people have sex right after a big meal. Yuck.

    , @anon
    From your wickerpedia:

    During the Tiki culture fad of the 1950s and 1960s, as many as 25 Trader Vic's restaurants were in operation worldwide. They all featured the popular mix of Polynesian artifacts, unique cocktails, and exotic cuisine. The chain of restaurants grew and is credited as one of the first successful themed chains, a marketing model that many other restaurants followed. In 1972 the original location in Oakland was closed and replaced by a bayfront restaurant in nearby Emeryville, now considered the chain's flagship restaurant. In the 1980s and 1990s, the chain began to shrink as a younger generation had little connection to the chain's tiki theme.
     
    I’m feeling too hip for the room.
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  66. Art Deco says:

    The Nation went over to the other side during the Cold War. They’ve never repudiated their past, nor have they had in the last 80-odd years a conjoined change in ownership and editorial supervision wherein you had a new regime not implicated in the acts of the old regime. I’m not inclined to take instruction in social ethics from people who were press agents for Fidel Castro, because such people are intellectual and moral frauds.

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    The Nation went over to the other side during the Cold War. They’ve never repudiated their past, nor have they had in the last 80-odd years a conjoined change in ownership and editorial supervision wherein you had a new regime not implicated in the acts of the old regime. I’m not inclined to take instruction in social ethics from people who were press agents for Fidel Castro, because such people are intellectual and moral frauds.
     
    The Nation appears to be edited on auto-pilot, with a rotation of predictable identity politics columnists, book reviews that read like rejects from the NYRB, and articles that are largely op-eds passing themselves off as journalism. The nadir of such bluffery this past year was an article by an "activist" who asserted -- citing Wilhelm "Orgone Box" Reich -- that the petite bourgeoisie (i.e., small business owners and the middle class) were the roots of Fascism.

    Meanwhile, The Nation is constantly raising funds by promoting high-ticket Nation Cruises several times a year (typically featuring "editor" Katrina vanden Heuvel and other worthies such as Calvin Trillin and Rev. Dr. William J. Barber II) to Puerto Vallarta, Cuba, etc. And then there is The Nation Wine Club. Oh, and let's not forget the regular ads for the Men's Liberty (TM) "external and non-invasive" alternative to Adult Diapers.
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  67. Tulip says:

    On a serious note, it is actually even worse for the Left, even if they manage to completely suppress the discussion of genetics in public policy.

    As we know, phenotypes are impacted by both genetics and environment. For example, if Black children are adopted by high SES Whites, there will be a statistically significant and positive impact on outcomes.

    However, in the real world, I don’t know how you can tell by looking at a Black person that they were adopted by high SES Whites. If the explanation of differential outcomes is explained by “skin color privilege”, then obviously Blacks adopted by whites would fare no better than Blacks raised by their biological parents.

    Moreover, you would have to look at some households as being “culturally enriching” and some households (and probably the single mother variety) as being “culturally destructive” and even “criminogenic”, and there goes not just “white privilege” but the sexual revolution and feminism.

    To really be on the Left today, you have to not only deny genetics, but pretend that the sexual choices of parents don’t impact children, that family structure doesn’t matter, that family culture doesn’t matter, but there is a conspiracy of white males to keep everyone else down (and shut up about Asians). Quite a lot to swallow.

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  68. Bill says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    The left is trying to reconcile its contradictions, as was apparent in the Steven Pinker statement recently linked at iSteve.

    --He acknowledges that many of the hate-facts that place people on the alt-right are correct.
    --He acknowledges that progressives refuse to accept those facts and actively suppress them, going so far as to punish those who hold them.
    --Pinker suggests that progressives need to acknowledge those facts but steer alt-right people away from the logical inferences drawn from them that he considers radical and dangerous.

    How to do this? As explained in a recent NYT op-ed, "For example, while at the moment it’s true that, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the homicide rate is higher for blacks than for whites, that doesn’t really tell us anything about a group of people since at different times in history, different groups have had elevated crime rates — at one point Irish-Americans did."

    The alt-right view is grounded in reality, while Pinker's rebuttal is wishful thinking--"You're wrong to think this because I can imagine a future where your view is not correct." He thinks that reflecting on the fact that the Irish used to be especially violent should make us confident that blacks may someday not be so violent. But there's no logic in this, it's a false equivalence. It's like Obama saying that because the Italians and Irish assimilated, then we should expect Muslims and Mexicans to assimilate too, without acknowledging that blacks and American Indians have never really assimilated.

    The situation parallels that of the Church confronting Galileo, its chief concern being that that to acknowledge the fact that the earth rotates around the sun would weaken religious faith among the masses and therefore it was best to suppress it.

    Nevertheless, I don't expect any cessation of the attempt to suppress any facts considered heretical by the Progressive religious faith.

    The situation parallels that of the Church confronting Galileo, its chief concern being that that to acknowledge the fact that the earth rotates around the sun would weaken religious faith among the masses and therefore it was best to suppress it.

    That wasn’t the issue at all.

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  69. whorefinder says: • Website

    And finally, political muscle doesn’t get us anywhere if we still obey decrees by random judges nobody has heard of.

    The Left always converges institutions (including the judiciary) because non-lefties view those institutions as having respect and power, and the Left believes that respect and power are limitless. Once we of the non-left realize a converged institution is unworthy of respect and power, however, those Lefties in that institution should hear their knees rattle….

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  70. Alden says:
    @AndrewR
    Would Dubya have gotten into Yale had he not been part of such a powerful, well-connected family? Letting unqualified students into elite schools based on whom they're related to was happening at least since Barack Obama was still a small child, and was almost certainly happening well before that.

    The problem with Harvard isn't that they occasionally admit [presumably] underqualified children of the elites, like Malia. It's that they let tremendously underqualified and socially-destructive people like "Khilal Muhammad" become professors.

    Dub ya met the SAT score and GPA requirements for Yale.

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  71. @neutral

    to make palatable racist ideas that many people, deep down, have always felt were true. …
     
    It's not that deep down, unless one is an autist, observing the 100m sprints, the general wealth of different world regions, winners of maths olympiads, which city regions have high crime, etc - all of these indicate impossible to ignore truths. Everyone not in the autism spectrum is absolutely aware of these truths, even the most indoctrinated SJW is, we are not allowed to mention these truths out of great fear of our lives being destroyed. The idea of the races all being the same is ridiculous and almost all of us know it, only the few in this age are however brave enough to say it.

    Then there’s the kind of autist which reads the data, and concludes that it’s moral to treat the statistical negative people as second class citizens, until they disappear from the town, the country-side, or wherever you’re in.

    I’m not shy, and I’ve read enough to know when to disparage statistically average bullshit, and whomever lets that kind of bullshit come out of one’s mouth.

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    "Then there’s the kind of autist which reads the data, and concludes that it’s moral to treat the statistical negative people as second class citizens, until they disappear from the town, the country-side, or wherever you’re in."

    Please cite someone making this argument.

    Straw man.
    , @Samuel Skinner
    Except it isn't bullshit. "We should deny all blacks the vote because they can't be trusted with it" turned out to be spot on.
    , @ben tillman

    I’m not shy, and I’ve read enough to know when to disparage statistically average bullshit, and whomever lets that kind of bullshit come out of one’s mouth.
     
    Perhaps you could read some materials to help you with your grammar.
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  72. @Anthony
    So who's the "reality-based community" now?

    I am very sad to say this, but when facts collide with strongly held opinions, the opinions almost always win out. This is true all over the political spectrum.

    Human nature.
    As the saying goes, it is far easier to fool someone than to convince someone he has been fooled.

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    I am very sad to say this, but when facts collide with strongly held opinions, the opinions almost always win out. This is true all over the political spectrum.

    I'll wager that's true for normative questions (for long periods of time). For other sorts of questions, I think there's only so long you can maintain fictions.
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  73. J1234 says:
    @syonredux

    These new white supremacists are coming not with tiki torches but with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures, to make palatable racist ideas that many people, deep down, have always felt were true. …
     
    My God.....How twisted can the Alt-Right can be.....To actually use reasoned arguments that are buttressed by facts and figure....

    How twisted can the Alt-Right can be…..To actually use reasoned arguments that are buttressed by facts and figures….

    Yes! How dare them!

    That’s like the argument that civility is a show of white privilege. Facts, figures and civility caused slavery, you know.

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  74. Forbes says:

    Wait, what?

    Social science is used making

    reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures

    and that’s a problem…

    It’s the end of the world as we know it.

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  75. RonaldB says:
    @neutral

    to make palatable racist ideas that many people, deep down, have always felt were true. …
     
    It's not that deep down, unless one is an autist, observing the 100m sprints, the general wealth of different world regions, winners of maths olympiads, which city regions have high crime, etc - all of these indicate impossible to ignore truths. Everyone not in the autism spectrum is absolutely aware of these truths, even the most indoctrinated SJW is, we are not allowed to mention these truths out of great fear of our lives being destroyed. The idea of the races all being the same is ridiculous and almost all of us know it, only the few in this age are however brave enough to say it.

    The only counter argument leftists have is, white discrimination is responsible for the low achievements and high criminality of the darker races.

    The claim can be easily refuted, but involves facts and logic chains. This goes beyond the attention span of most leftists, so in reality there is no way to communicate with them.

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  76. gunner29 says:
    @Arclight
    Saw Bret Weinstein says he reluctantly supports looking more into IQ differences - because if the left is going to treat any differences in outcomes between different groups as ironclad evidence of racism, then it makes sense to investigate all possible reasons for the disparities to see if they are right.

    It seems possible that in the next decade, more and more left-leaning intellectuals (at least those without "studies" in the title of their degrees) are going to grapple with this issue and won't like what they find.

    Saw Bret Weinstein says he reluctantly supports looking more into IQ differences – because if the left is going to treat any differences in outcomes between different groups as ironclad evidence of racism, then it makes sense to investigate all possible reasons for the disparities to see if they are right.

    It seems possible that in the next decade, more and more left-leaning intellectuals (at least those without “studies” in the title of their degrees) are going to grapple with this issue and won’t like what they find.

    Unfortunately it will never happen. There will probably be some lone wolves that will. But in private and not mentioned to any other lefty.

    First one that comes out is shouted down by the rest of the mob and thrown out of the left. That will be sufficient warning for any other heretics.

    The Thought Police are strong on the left….

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    I suspect Bret Weinstein’s fear of being shouted down by an SJW mob is somewhat tempered by the fact that it has already happened, and he was hounded out of his job along with his wife by the SJW mob. (Or perhaps by some Machiavellian faculty using the mob to gain power.).

    Having already excommunicated and exiled him from his lifelong beloved career, there’s not a lot more threat available there. If the SJWs were a top down movement, someone would quietly offer him and his wife a new academic job somewhere to give him reasons to tone down his heresy, along the lines of offering Martin Luther a position as a bishop to forestall the Reformation.
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  77. @Dr. X

    These new white supremacists are coming not with tiki torches but with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures...
     
    Well, of course. He's on the faculty at Harvard. The last thing he'd be interested in is "reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures."

    Harvard (despite its oxymoronic motto "Veritas") has nothing to do with reason, facts, or objective knowledge. It's a seminary to train elites for priesthood in the official state religion of multicultural egalitarianism.

    well the joint started as a seminary in 1636. In their DNA perhaps?

    “Harvard: Lecturing the rest of us for 382 years”

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  78. Harvard used to give “Gentleman’s C’s” for their struggling legacy students due to the need to not flunk them. The logic was that if they were smart enough to get in, it must be in part the University’s fault that they are not succeeding. Sounds like they are now doing the same thing for their Professors.

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    I don't think so. About 20 years ago, an elderly faculty member at Dartmouth explained the advent of grade inflation there and at peer schools. He said when he'd started (in 1962), you graded with the students in front of you as your scale. The median was a C. He said the faculty grew anxious with this when they discovered students they considered qualified for graduate work were being rejected by state universities. He said they conferred with state university professors about this, to be told, "you think your C's are our B's, and they're not". You'd think that GRE scores would serve as an adequate deflator for the research university faculty, but who knows. The 'gentleman's C' was the modal grade, per this fellow.
    , @Johann Ricke

    Harvard used to give “Gentleman’s C’s” for their struggling legacy students due to the need to not flunk them. The logic was that if they were smart enough to get in, it must be in part the University’s fault that they are not succeeding. Sounds like they are now doing the same thing for their Professors.
     
    I've heard, from some acquaintance, that the median grade in ex-British colonies used to be a C. It's possible that Harvard used to have that philosophy.
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  79. Art Deco says:
    @AndrewR
    Would Dubya have gotten into Yale had he not been part of such a powerful, well-connected family? Letting unqualified students into elite schools based on whom they're related to was happening at least since Barack Obama was still a small child, and was almost certainly happening well before that.

    The problem with Harvard isn't that they occasionally admit [presumably] underqualified children of the elites, like Malia. It's that they let tremendously underqualified and socially-destructive people like "Khilal Muhammad" become professors.

    Would Dubya have gotten into Yale had he not been part of such a powerful, well-connected family?

    It’s a reasonable wager he would have. His academic record there and at Harvard Business School was adequate (better than Al Gore’s and John Kerry’s, for example). It was during the 1st two decades after the war that selective schools were making use of college boards to redistribute admissions slots from those who’d followed a specific preparatory program (offered at boarding schools) to those who demonstrated general aptitude on standardized tests.

    Not sure how much ‘power’ a retired member of Congress has (as opposed to entree).

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    Bush's grandfather was a recent US Senator from Connecticut when he entered Yale. Yale is in Connecticut.
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  80. Art Deco says:
    @Paleo Liberal
    I am very sad to say this, but when facts collide with strongly held opinions, the opinions almost always win out. This is true all over the political spectrum.

    Human nature.
    As the saying goes, it is far easier to fool someone than to convince someone he has been fooled.

    I am very sad to say this, but when facts collide with strongly held opinions, the opinions almost always win out. This is true all over the political spectrum.

    I’ll wager that’s true for normative questions (for long periods of time). For other sorts of questions, I think there’s only so long you can maintain fictions.

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  81. @One in the Autism Spectrum
    Then there's the kind of autist which reads the data, and concludes that it's moral to treat the statistical negative people as second class citizens, until they disappear from the town, the country-side, or wherever you're in.

    I'm not shy, and I've read enough to know when to disparage statistically average bullshit, and whomever lets that kind of bullshit come out of one's mouth.

    “Then there’s the kind of autist which reads the data, and concludes that it’s moral to treat the statistical negative people as second class citizens, until they disappear from the town, the country-side, or wherever you’re in.”

    Please cite someone making this argument.

    Straw man.

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  82. The Alt-Right Is The Future:

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  83. Farenheit says:

    My recommendation to the alt right, don’t just use facts, use references to people and publications that are under the spire of the cathedral. My favorite is to quote former New York Times science editor and author Nicholas Wade. His books are well researched and well written, and it’s just delicious to throw out the old “as New Your Times science editor made mention of in this book…..” and watch the look of surprise.

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  84. @One in the Autism Spectrum
    Then there's the kind of autist which reads the data, and concludes that it's moral to treat the statistical negative people as second class citizens, until they disappear from the town, the country-side, or wherever you're in.

    I'm not shy, and I've read enough to know when to disparage statistically average bullshit, and whomever lets that kind of bullshit come out of one's mouth.

    Except it isn’t bullshit. “We should deny all blacks the vote because they can’t be trusted with it” turned out to be spot on.

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  85. @Intelligent Dasein
    The interesting question now becomes, "What do you do when you've won all the arguments, when you have all the facts, when everybody 'deep down' knows you're right, but the other side still won't surrender the field?"

    Winning is going to require the Alt-Right to actually exercise some political muscle, and we need to start thinking seriously about how that can happen.

    The problem in the Anglosphere is there is no political means of promoting alt-right policies. In Europe, there is proportional representation, which allows for the growth of populist parties. In turn, this also promotes the development of cultural movements like the identitarians. In contrast, British and American democracy is designed to preserve the status quo, which over the last 40 years has come to mean an economy run by the liberal right and a society run by the liberal left.

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  86. @AndrewR
    Would Dubya have gotten into Yale had he not been part of such a powerful, well-connected family? Letting unqualified students into elite schools based on whom they're related to was happening at least since Barack Obama was still a small child, and was almost certainly happening well before that.

    The problem with Harvard isn't that they occasionally admit [presumably] underqualified children of the elites, like Malia. It's that they let tremendously underqualified and socially-destructive people like "Khilal Muhammad" become professors.

    I bet Malia Obama’s IQ is about 100–yes, she’s tremendously underqualified for Harvard. Why do you think she’s majoring in film–as an undergrad?

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    Since her mother and father were both admitted to the bar and both have fancy law degrees (and her father completed law school magna cum laude), why would you assume she has the scores you'd expect of a welder's daughter? Her parents suffer from a deficit of seriousness, not a deficit of general intelligence.
    , @Anonymous
    Harvard has a "film" major? This destruction thing is happening so fast nowadays.
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  87. @One in the Autism Spectrum
    Then there's the kind of autist which reads the data, and concludes that it's moral to treat the statistical negative people as second class citizens, until they disappear from the town, the country-side, or wherever you're in.

    I'm not shy, and I've read enough to know when to disparage statistically average bullshit, and whomever lets that kind of bullshit come out of one's mouth.

    I’m not shy, and I’ve read enough to know when to disparage statistically average bullshit, and whomever lets that kind of bullshit come out of one’s mouth.

    Perhaps you could read some materials to help you with your grammar.

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  88. Art Deco says:
    @Prof. Woland
    Harvard used to give "Gentleman's C's" for their struggling legacy students due to the need to not flunk them. The logic was that if they were smart enough to get in, it must be in part the University's fault that they are not succeeding. Sounds like they are now doing the same thing for their Professors.

    I don’t think so. About 20 years ago, an elderly faculty member at Dartmouth explained the advent of grade inflation there and at peer schools. He said when he’d started (in 1962), you graded with the students in front of you as your scale. The median was a C. He said the faculty grew anxious with this when they discovered students they considered qualified for graduate work were being rejected by state universities. He said they conferred with state university professors about this, to be told, “you think your C’s are our B’s, and they’re not”. You’d think that GRE scores would serve as an adequate deflator for the research university faculty, but who knows. The ‘gentleman’s C’ was the modal grade, per this fellow.

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  89. Art Deco says:
    @Meretricious
    I bet Malia Obama's IQ is about 100--yes, she's tremendously underqualified for Harvard. Why do you think she's majoring in film--as an undergrad?

    Since her mother and father were both admitted to the bar and both have fancy law degrees (and her father completed law school magna cum laude), why would you assume she has the scores you’d expect of a welder’s daughter? Her parents suffer from a deficit of seriousness, not a deficit of general intelligence.

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    read Barry's defense of affirmative action in the Harvard Law Record (that's pre-Ayers Barry); then read Michelle Robinson's Princeton thesis. You bought this magna BS when Harvard Law was the capital of soft courses like critical race theory?
    , @Negrolphin Pool
    Mrs. Obama has all the hallmarks of searing genius hidden inside a two-digit figure. She could have wasted her Princeton senior thesis exploring worn subjects like science but instead chose to focus on autoethnographic accounts of her black body being pummeled, whipped, beat and ultimately paved over by a white plantation society steam roller.
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  90. MEH 0910 says:

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  91. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @JackOH
    "We are giving in to the deepest [W]hite [S]upremacy. We are in a struggle against greed, hatred, and violence."

    So said the Rev. Dr. Willie James Jennings at an MLK, Jr. Sunday service and quoted in my local newspaper yesterday. Dr. Jennings is identified as an associate professor of systematic theology and Africana studies at Yale.

    A Central European politician ninety years ago got good mileage out of bashing the greed and manipulativeness of an ethnic sub-group to prep the way for his own notions of Aryan Supremacy.

    Black Supremacy, that mash-up of "We're #1" ideas, is no laughing matter. It's utilitarian rhetoric and one-sided argumentation in the extreme. "Civil rights" these days isn't about rectification of injustices meted out to Black folks, but about laying the groundwork for Black minority rule.

    (BTW-I heard Cokie Roberts speak earlier this month. An immensely charming woman and engaging speaker, she nonetheless pushed the feminist party line. Everything will be better when women displace men in politics. She didn't use "displace", but that's where she was headed. Plenty of Blacks and women have entered politics the last forty years, and I'm not seeing any betterment at all. Maybe I missed the memo.)

    QUOTE: I heard Cokie Roberts speak earlier this month.

    Having one’s father assassinated makes a person a tad more cautious.

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    Roberts' father died in a plane crash; he wasn't assassinated.
    , @D. K.
    Do you know something about Hale Boggs' last plane ride that the rest of us do not?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cokie_Roberts#Background

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hale_Boggs#Disappearance_in_Alaska

    Cokie Roberts is not the type to give credence to conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination, as far as I know, regardless of whatever doubts about the evidence proffered for the "lone-nut" theory preferred by the Establishment (and Steve Sailer) that her father might have taken to his (presumed) death in the wilds of Alaska.
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  92. @Art Deco
    Since her mother and father were both admitted to the bar and both have fancy law degrees (and her father completed law school magna cum laude), why would you assume she has the scores you'd expect of a welder's daughter? Her parents suffer from a deficit of seriousness, not a deficit of general intelligence.

    read Barry’s defense of affirmative action in the Harvard Law Record (that’s pre-Ayers Barry); then read Michelle Robinson’s Princeton thesis. You bought this magna BS when Harvard Law was the capital of soft courses like critical race theory?

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    See Wm. Dyer ("Beldar") on his time in law school. Bottom line, the magna is for real. (They're awarded, if I'm not mistaken, consequent to blindly graded examinations). What Beldar found odd about Obama's time in law school was that the selection method for the Harvard Law Review's senior was so different from that at UT Austin and did not require composing case notes for the review (which, at Austin ca. 1976, were evaluated astringently).
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  93. Art Deco says:
    @Meretricious
    read Barry's defense of affirmative action in the Harvard Law Record (that's pre-Ayers Barry); then read Michelle Robinson's Princeton thesis. You bought this magna BS when Harvard Law was the capital of soft courses like critical race theory?

    See Wm. Dyer (“Beldar”) on his time in law school. Bottom line, the magna is for real. (They’re awarded, if I’m not mistaken, consequent to blindly graded examinations). What Beldar found odd about Obama’s time in law school was that the selection method for the Harvard Law Review‘s senior was so different from that at UT Austin and did not require composing case notes for the review (which, at Austin ca. 1976, were evaluated astringently).

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  94. @Art Deco
    Since her mother and father were both admitted to the bar and both have fancy law degrees (and her father completed law school magna cum laude), why would you assume she has the scores you'd expect of a welder's daughter? Her parents suffer from a deficit of seriousness, not a deficit of general intelligence.

    Mrs. Obama has all the hallmarks of searing genius hidden inside a two-digit figure. She could have wasted her Princeton senior thesis exploring worn subjects like science but instead chose to focus on autoethnographic accounts of her black body being pummeled, whipped, beat and ultimately paved over by a white plantation society steam roller.

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  95. @stillCARealist
    Did you mean Trader Joe's? Trader Vic's was a bar in SF that Herb Cain drank in in the 80's. He loved to mention it in his columns.

    No, he meant Trader Vic’s, where I once saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada.

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    Was his hair perfect?
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  96. @Anonymous
    QUOTE: I heard Cokie Roberts speak earlier this month.

    Having one's father assassinated makes a person a tad more cautious.

    Roberts’ father died in a plane crash; he wasn’t assassinated.

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  97. @Art Deco
    Would Dubya have gotten into Yale had he not been part of such a powerful, well-connected family?


    It's a reasonable wager he would have. His academic record there and at Harvard Business School was adequate (better than Al Gore's and John Kerry's, for example). It was during the 1st two decades after the war that selective schools were making use of college boards to redistribute admissions slots from those who'd followed a specific preparatory program (offered at boarding schools) to those who demonstrated general aptitude on standardized tests.



    Not sure how much 'power' a retired member of Congress has (as opposed to entree).

    Bush’s grandfather was a recent US Senator from Connecticut when he entered Yale. Yale is in Connecticut.

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  98. D. K. says:
    @Anonymous
    QUOTE: I heard Cokie Roberts speak earlier this month.

    Having one's father assassinated makes a person a tad more cautious.

    Do you know something about Hale Boggs’ last plane ride that the rest of us do not?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cokie_Roberts#Background

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hale_Boggs#Disappearance_in_Alaska

    Cokie Roberts is not the type to give credence to conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination, as far as I know, regardless of whatever doubts about the evidence proffered for the “lone-nut” theory preferred by the Establishment (and Steve Sailer) that her father might have taken to his (presumed) death in the wilds of Alaska.

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    Cokie Roberts is not the type to give credence to conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination, as far as I know, regardless of whatever doubts about the evidence proffered for the “lone-nut” theory preferred by the Establishment (and Steve Sailer) that her father might have taken to his (presumed) death in the wilds of Alaska.
     
    If your congressman father had privately shared with you misgivings about the convenient official "lone gunman" narrative re JFK, and then met an unexpected end in murky circumstances, would you go public with the very story that MIGHT have got your father killed?

    Note that Cokie Roberts has two children (per WP).

    P.S.: BTW the REAL QUESTION is: who arranged the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald? Do we really believe, in 2018, that a mob-affiliated nightclub owner sacrificed himself purely to save Jackie from the indignity of having to testify?

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  99. @Prof. Woland
    Harvard used to give "Gentleman's C's" for their struggling legacy students due to the need to not flunk them. The logic was that if they were smart enough to get in, it must be in part the University's fault that they are not succeeding. Sounds like they are now doing the same thing for their Professors.

    Harvard used to give “Gentleman’s C’s” for their struggling legacy students due to the need to not flunk them. The logic was that if they were smart enough to get in, it must be in part the University’s fault that they are not succeeding. Sounds like they are now doing the same thing for their Professors.

    I’ve heard, from some acquaintance, that the median grade in ex-British colonies used to be a C. It’s possible that Harvard used to have that philosophy.

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    There were classes at Georgia Tech in the late 80s still graded on a strict bell curve with C in the middle.
    , @Faraday's Bobcat
    When I went to Bro State Univ in the late 1980s, they would curve to a C-C+ in the freshman engineering classes like physics and calculus. It was strongly believed this was to weed out unqualified students early, which for some reason was vaguely regarded as unfair.

    Later, when I started grad school and was assigned to teach a sophomore-level engineering class widely believed by students to be harshly curved, I was surprised that the department said not a word to me about grading. It was left completely up to me, a first-year PhD student. I stuck to a C+ curve and am sure it cost me on the course-end student evaluations. That was 20 years ago and things have probably changed.
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  100. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Meretricious
    I bet Malia Obama's IQ is about 100--yes, she's tremendously underqualified for Harvard. Why do you think she's majoring in film--as an undergrad?

    Harvard has a “film” major? This destruction thing is happening so fast nowadays.

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    Harvard is going to the dogs so fast that the barks are red shifting....
    , @Meretricious
    film is fine as a grad major--since she's relatively dumb (for Harvard), of course she'll be taking the least cognitively demanding courses--this is all part of the affirmative action agenda: making elite institutions amenable to low-IQ minorities
    , @Art Deco
    Harvard has a “film” major? This destruction thing is happening so fast nowadays.

    No more scandalous than a studio art program or a theatre-and-dance program. (Emma Sulkowicz, aka 'Mattress Girl' was an art major). Rather less scandalous than the victimology programs you find in arts and sciences faculties.
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  101. pyrrhus says:
    @Polynices
    That article almost reads like a parody of the kind of article that it is. Cites lots of facts and examples that the reader is just supposed to know are racist and wrong without explaining why.

    Leftist minority professors engage in unconscious self parody on a regular basis. Because those racist facts that you aren’t supposed to notice…..

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  102. pyrrhus says:
    @Anonymous
    Harvard has a "film" major? This destruction thing is happening so fast nowadays.

    Harvard is going to the dogs so fast that the barks are red shifting….

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  103. Lurker says:
    @Meretricious
    best to ignore Harvard's social parasites (and I'm convinced AA has hurt its brand, as the school now is associated with the Obama family). The funny thing about these affirmative action lightweights is that they are convinced they are brilliant and relevant

    The funny thing about these affirmative action lightweights is that they are convinced they are brilliant and relevant

    I think that’s part of the divide and rule strategy. Whites are denigrated and attacked unfairly while non-whites are flattered and applauded unfairly. The two strategies combined encourage resentment and mistrust.

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  104. @Anonymous
    Harvard has a "film" major? This destruction thing is happening so fast nowadays.

    film is fine as a grad major–since she’s relatively dumb (for Harvard), of course she’ll be taking the least cognitively demanding courses–this is all part of the affirmative action agenda: making elite institutions amenable to low-IQ minorities

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    Film schools can be a good way to get good publicity for a college, since people in the movies often become celebrities, much like sports teams can be good for publicity for your college's name. NYU, for example, has benefited from its association with Martin Scorsese, and USC with its association with George Lucas.
    , @Dube
    A friend teaching film sent the class out to do a smartphone scene conveying a crowded restaurant, with boring and ambiguous results. "Shoot the feet," he suggested. Several feet suggest a crowd. Laugh but think.
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  105. @Meretricious
    film is fine as a grad major--since she's relatively dumb (for Harvard), of course she'll be taking the least cognitively demanding courses--this is all part of the affirmative action agenda: making elite institutions amenable to low-IQ minorities

    Film schools can be a good way to get good publicity for a college, since people in the movies often become celebrities, much like sports teams can be good for publicity for your college’s name. NYU, for example, has benefited from its association with Martin Scorsese, and USC with its association with George Lucas.

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    good point, but Marty Scorsese is brilliant (watch this). Malia's strategy should be to hook up with a brilliant filmmaker and become a producer. Problem is, Malia probably does not have the smarts to spot talent. Look at Obama's library design! He approved that POS and probably thinks it's brilliant.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycuDrMVKf04
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  106. @Steve Sailer
    Film schools can be a good way to get good publicity for a college, since people in the movies often become celebrities, much like sports teams can be good for publicity for your college's name. NYU, for example, has benefited from its association with Martin Scorsese, and USC with its association with George Lucas.

    good point, but Marty Scorsese is brilliant (watch this). Malia’s strategy should be to hook up with a brilliant filmmaker and become a producer. Problem is, Malia probably does not have the smarts to spot talent. Look at Obama’s library design! He approved that POS and probably thinks it’s brilliant.

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  107. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @stillCARealist
    Did you mean Trader Joe's? Trader Vic's was a bar in SF that Herb Cain drank in in the 80's. He loved to mention it in his columns.

    Trader Vic’s became a collection of franchised, ersatz-upscale theme restaurants / watering holes where sleazy ‘businessmen’ and old, washed-up actors took their very young ‘dates’ to impress them before, well, you know.

    They were embarrassingly kitschy and the food was by all accounts mediocre at best but they occupied prime real estate in several cities. Apparently they were considered stylish in the 1940s and 50s.

    OT but I don’t know why so many people have sex right after a big meal. Yuck.

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  108. @Johann Ricke

    Harvard used to give “Gentleman’s C’s” for their struggling legacy students due to the need to not flunk them. The logic was that if they were smart enough to get in, it must be in part the University’s fault that they are not succeeding. Sounds like they are now doing the same thing for their Professors.
     
    I've heard, from some acquaintance, that the median grade in ex-British colonies used to be a C. It's possible that Harvard used to have that philosophy.

    There were classes at Georgia Tech in the late 80s still graded on a strict bell curve with C in the middle.

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  109. Imagine the laughter of the Liberals if they saw following headline in, say, a Christian fundamentalist publication: “How the Secular Humanists Use Science to Make Evolution Respectable”

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  110. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR
    Would Dubya have gotten into Yale had he not been part of such a powerful, well-connected family? Letting unqualified students into elite schools based on whom they're related to was happening at least since Barack Obama was still a small child, and was almost certainly happening well before that.

    The problem with Harvard isn't that they occasionally admit [presumably] underqualified children of the elites, like Malia. It's that they let tremendously underqualified and socially-destructive people like "Khilal Muhammad" become professors.

    If it makes you feel better, W would never get into Yale today. Even the strength of legacy status, and even if he were a notable athlete as well (which to my knowledge he wasn’t). He was fortunate to make the very last cohort of admits before academic standards tightened. They’ve continued tightening ever since and the only real way around them is if you are an ‘URM’–and even then you’ll have to be fairly accomplished.

    The competition is ridiculous. Yale and its peers can’t afford at admit students who can’t hack the workload, for one thing. It looks bad when they wash out in wildly disproportionate numbers. When they just barely skirt the standards for the sake of ‘optics’ they end up with the likes of Jerelyn Luther and her homies. Bad news all around, but the only other way is to get some of those black immigrants. Everyone wants them too, though.

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    And George W. Bush barely got into Yale. He'd been telling friends he was going to U. of Texas, but then his Yale acceptance came as a pleasant surprise.
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  111. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman
    Of course, science and social science have always supported the Right's arguments regarding race. It's just that for 70 years the Left used a monopoly on the communications media and ethnopolitical activists masquerading as scientists to spread anti-white lies in place of the truth.

    Then came mass use of the Internet.

    Which is why they’ll stop at nothing to get this internet ‘free speech’ thing under control. It threatens to undermine their death grip on the flow of ‘information’.

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  112. Dube says:
    @Meretricious
    film is fine as a grad major--since she's relatively dumb (for Harvard), of course she'll be taking the least cognitively demanding courses--this is all part of the affirmative action agenda: making elite institutions amenable to low-IQ minorities

    A friend teaching film sent the class out to do a smartphone scene conveying a crowded restaurant, with boring and ambiguous results. “Shoot the feet,” he suggested. Several feet suggest a crowd. Laugh but think.

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  113. @Anonymous
    If it makes you feel better, W would never get into Yale today. Even the strength of legacy status, and even if he were a notable athlete as well (which to my knowledge he wasn't). He was fortunate to make the very last cohort of admits before academic standards tightened. They've continued tightening ever since and the only real way around them is if you are an 'URM'--and even then you'll have to be fairly accomplished.

    The competition is ridiculous. Yale and its peers can't afford at admit students who can't hack the workload, for one thing. It looks bad when they wash out in wildly disproportionate numbers. When they just barely skirt the standards for the sake of 'optics' they end up with the likes of Jerelyn Luther and her homies. Bad news all around, but the only other way is to get some of those black immigrants. Everyone wants them too, though.

    And George W. Bush barely got into Yale. He’d been telling friends he was going to U. of Texas, but then his Yale acceptance came as a pleasant surprise.

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  114. @Johann Ricke

    Harvard used to give “Gentleman’s C’s” for their struggling legacy students due to the need to not flunk them. The logic was that if they were smart enough to get in, it must be in part the University’s fault that they are not succeeding. Sounds like they are now doing the same thing for their Professors.
     
    I've heard, from some acquaintance, that the median grade in ex-British colonies used to be a C. It's possible that Harvard used to have that philosophy.

    When I went to Bro State Univ in the late 1980s, they would curve to a C-C+ in the freshman engineering classes like physics and calculus. It was strongly believed this was to weed out unqualified students early, which for some reason was vaguely regarded as unfair.

    Later, when I started grad school and was assigned to teach a sophomore-level engineering class widely believed by students to be harshly curved, I was surprised that the department said not a word to me about grading. It was left completely up to me, a first-year PhD student. I stuck to a C+ curve and am sure it cost me on the course-end student evaluations. That was 20 years ago and things have probably changed.

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  115. Khalil Gibran Muhammad is a professor of … race … at the Harvard Kennedy School,

    Remember, immigrants have higher rates of college attianment, stupid rednecks.

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  116. dfordoom says: • Website
    @27 year old
    First, we can't have unrealistic expectations. The victories the other side won took them many years and we can't expect to win it all back overnight with one weird tip.

    I would reconsider your premise that having facts and being right have any bearing on control of "the field", and/or reevaluate your definition of "the field".

    Getting them to admit that we're right about race and IQ isn't winning. Being right doesn't make right, might still makes right. They hate us and want us dead and our kids raped and in poverty. They will continue to invent new justifications for their goals.

    And finally, political muscle doesn't get us anywhere if we still obey decrees by random judges nobody has heard of.

    First, we can’t have unrealistic expectations. The victories the other side won took them many years and we can’t expect to win it all back overnight

    The other side also had lots of allies among the elites of the past. They were not a tiny fringe group with no money and no useful elite connections.

    In the case of the US there never was any organised conservative opposition because conservatism has never existed in the US. What Americans call conservatism is in fact liberalism. It’s right-wing liberalism. But it’s still liberalism. The establishment always was liberal.

    So it’s hardly surprising that the liberal establishment was willing to allow more extreme liberals to gradually take over academia, the media, the bureaucracy, the education system.

    Hollywood was solidly liberal by the end of the 1920s, if not earlier.

    There was no sudden left/liberal takeover in the 60s. What actually happened was a power struggle within the existing elite.

    It was much the same in other western countries. The last British Conservative Party leader who could be described as an actual conservative was Lord Salisbury in the late 19th century. Liberalism was in control of the British elites by the beginning of the 20th century.

    Since the alt-right has zero representation within the currently existing elite they have zero political muscle to flex.

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  117. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @D. K.
    Do you know something about Hale Boggs' last plane ride that the rest of us do not?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cokie_Roberts#Background

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hale_Boggs#Disappearance_in_Alaska

    Cokie Roberts is not the type to give credence to conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination, as far as I know, regardless of whatever doubts about the evidence proffered for the "lone-nut" theory preferred by the Establishment (and Steve Sailer) that her father might have taken to his (presumed) death in the wilds of Alaska.

    Cokie Roberts is not the type to give credence to conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination, as far as I know, regardless of whatever doubts about the evidence proffered for the “lone-nut” theory preferred by the Establishment (and Steve Sailer) that her father might have taken to his (presumed) death in the wilds of Alaska.

    If your congressman father had privately shared with you misgivings about the convenient official “lone gunman” narrative re JFK, and then met an unexpected end in murky circumstances, would you go public with the very story that MIGHT have got your father killed?

    Note that Cokie Roberts has two children (per WP).

    P.S.: BTW the REAL QUESTION is: who arranged the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald? Do we really believe, in 2018, that a mob-affiliated nightclub owner sacrificed himself purely to save Jackie from the indignity of having to testify?

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    BTW the REAL QUESTION is: who arranged the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald? Do we really believe, in 2018, that a mob-affiliated nightclub owner sacrificed himself purely to save Jackie from the indignity of having to testify?
     
    I doubt too many of us believe that. But when you're the Establishment and you control the MSM (which was far more monolithic back then) you can create some facts and erase others. Nature of the beast. I'm hoping you don't think we're ever getting at the truth about Oswald. I sure don't think we will.

    Look at how Google, Facebook, and Twitter (among others) are engaging in the same sort of fabrication and erasure that the MSM has always practiced. Nature of the beast, did I mention? Power corrupts. It especially corrupts those prone to being corrupted ;)

    , @anon

    BTW the REAL QUESTION is: who arranged the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald? Do we really believe, in 2018, that a mob-affiliated nightclub owner sacrificed himself purely to save Jackie from the indignity of having to testify?
     
    Ruby did it all on his own, as did Oswald. Mental illness (in these particular cases depression combined with narcissistic personality disorder) is real and it is a powerful activator.
    , @Art Deco
    If your congressman father had privately shared with you misgivings about the convenient official “lone gunman” narrative re JFK, and then met an unexpected end in murky circumstances,

    There were no murky circumstances. He died in a plane crash. The crash was over water and they couldn't locate the wreckage.

    He was on the Warren Commission and subscribed to its report. Gerald Ford was on the Warren Commission as well. See Ron Nessen's account of his conversations with Gerald Ford about 'misgivings'. Ford told him the Commission was careful in its report to say they had 'found' no evidence rather than saying there was no evidence of x, y. z. Those were the 'misgivings'.

    I'm fascinated to know what some crew of shadowy wire-pullers hoped to achieve by killing Hale Boggs eight years after the Warren Commission had issued it's report (as well as killing Nick Begich in the bargain - Begich was a back-bench member of Congress who knew nothing about the Kennedy Assassination other than what he read in the papers).

    , @Art Deco
    P.S.: BTW the REAL QUESTION is: who arranged the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald? Do we really believe, in 2018, that a mob-affiliated nightclub owner sacrificed himself purely to save Jackie from the indignity of having to testify?

    That's not a 'real question'. Ruby was a nightclub impresario and had to do business with sketchy unions and people running protection rackets. Those were his 'mob affiliations'.

    He was a famously impetuous and garrulous man, as well as given to sentimentality now and again. At the time he shot Oswald, his beloved dog was waiting for him in his car.
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  118. dfordoom says: • Website

    I’d love for someone to offer an example of a political argument that was won by reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures.

    You can win political arguments in several ways. One way is to be more effective than your opponents in appealing to the emotions. To do that you need to control a significant fraction of the media/entertainment industry. Another way is to have control of all the important institutions and simply shut down dissent. A third way is to use the state monopoly on organised violence to enforce your point of view at the barrel of a gun.

    Reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures, are not going to do it.

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    I’d love for someone to offer an example of a political argument that was won by reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures.
     
    You can argue monetarism under Reagan was - I'd certainly say the British version under Thatcher was. Clinton era welfare reform also springs to mind.
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  119. @Art Deco
    The Nation went over to the other side during the Cold War. They've never repudiated their past, nor have they had in the last 80-odd years a conjoined change in ownership and editorial supervision wherein you had a new regime not implicated in the acts of the old regime. I'm not inclined to take instruction in social ethics from people who were press agents for Fidel Castro, because such people are intellectual and moral frauds.

    The Nation went over to the other side during the Cold War. They’ve never repudiated their past, nor have they had in the last 80-odd years a conjoined change in ownership and editorial supervision wherein you had a new regime not implicated in the acts of the old regime. I’m not inclined to take instruction in social ethics from people who were press agents for Fidel Castro, because such people are intellectual and moral frauds.

    The Nation appears to be edited on auto-pilot, with a rotation of predictable identity politics columnists, book reviews that read like rejects from the NYRB, and articles that are largely op-eds passing themselves off as journalism. The nadir of such bluffery this past year was an article by an “activist” who asserted — citing Wilhelm “Orgone Box” Reich — that the petite bourgeoisie (i.e., small business owners and the middle class) were the roots of Fascism.

    Meanwhile, The Nation is constantly raising funds by promoting high-ticket Nation Cruises several times a year (typically featuring “editor” Katrina vanden Heuvel and other worthies such as Calvin Trillin and Rev. Dr. William J. Barber II) to Puerto Vallarta, Cuba, etc. And then there is The Nation Wine Club. Oh, and let’s not forget the regular ads for the Men’s Liberty (TM) “external and non-invasive” alternative to Adult Diapers.

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    "The Nation" is really skilled at making money. Good for them.

    On the other hand, it's not very interesting intellectually anymore. Yes, it does seem like the junior varsity "New York Review of Books," which is suffering from the extreme age of its regular contributors, but at least still has pretty high standards.

    , @Anonymous
    Oooh, I really should never have let that subscription lapse!
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  120. @Laugh Track

    The Nation went over to the other side during the Cold War. They’ve never repudiated their past, nor have they had in the last 80-odd years a conjoined change in ownership and editorial supervision wherein you had a new regime not implicated in the acts of the old regime. I’m not inclined to take instruction in social ethics from people who were press agents for Fidel Castro, because such people are intellectual and moral frauds.
     
    The Nation appears to be edited on auto-pilot, with a rotation of predictable identity politics columnists, book reviews that read like rejects from the NYRB, and articles that are largely op-eds passing themselves off as journalism. The nadir of such bluffery this past year was an article by an "activist" who asserted -- citing Wilhelm "Orgone Box" Reich -- that the petite bourgeoisie (i.e., small business owners and the middle class) were the roots of Fascism.

    Meanwhile, The Nation is constantly raising funds by promoting high-ticket Nation Cruises several times a year (typically featuring "editor" Katrina vanden Heuvel and other worthies such as Calvin Trillin and Rev. Dr. William J. Barber II) to Puerto Vallarta, Cuba, etc. And then there is The Nation Wine Club. Oh, and let's not forget the regular ads for the Men's Liberty (TM) "external and non-invasive" alternative to Adult Diapers.

    “The Nation” is really skilled at making money. Good for them.

    On the other hand, it’s not very interesting intellectually anymore. Yes, it does seem like the junior varsity “New York Review of Books,” which is suffering from the extreme age of its regular contributors, but at least still has pretty high standards.

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    I wonder what Katrina vanden Heuvel, who got her 25-years-older college professor to dump his wife and two kids to marry her AND who interned at National Lampoon in 1979, thinks of the #MeToo thingy? I notice she has a well scrubbed wikipedia entry, that’s always a tell isn’t it. ;)
    , @Art Deco
    On the other hand, it’s not very interesting intellectually anymore. Yes, it does seem like the junior varsity “New York Review of Books,” which is suffering from the extreme age of its regular contributors, but at least still has pretty high standards.

    What are you talking about? The Nation has long been red-haze birdcage liner. Their formatting and style has borne no resemblance tho those of The New York Review. The New York Review is amply stocked with academic contributors who have scholarly publication under their belt. Other than Stephen Cohen, The Nation's academic contributors have been drawn from the most cretinous segment of the academy. Mostly, they've published polemicists like Katha Pollitt and Penny Lernoux. (Well, Noam Chomsky's defense of the Khmer Rouge was published in The Nation courtesy Victor Navasky's predecessor).

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  121. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Cokie Roberts is not the type to give credence to conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination, as far as I know, regardless of whatever doubts about the evidence proffered for the “lone-nut” theory preferred by the Establishment (and Steve Sailer) that her father might have taken to his (presumed) death in the wilds of Alaska.
     
    If your congressman father had privately shared with you misgivings about the convenient official "lone gunman" narrative re JFK, and then met an unexpected end in murky circumstances, would you go public with the very story that MIGHT have got your father killed?

    Note that Cokie Roberts has two children (per WP).

    P.S.: BTW the REAL QUESTION is: who arranged the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald? Do we really believe, in 2018, that a mob-affiliated nightclub owner sacrificed himself purely to save Jackie from the indignity of having to testify?

    BTW the REAL QUESTION is: who arranged the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald? Do we really believe, in 2018, that a mob-affiliated nightclub owner sacrificed himself purely to save Jackie from the indignity of having to testify?

    I doubt too many of us believe that. But when you’re the Establishment and you control the MSM (which was far more monolithic back then) you can create some facts and erase others. Nature of the beast. I’m hoping you don’t think we’re ever getting at the truth about Oswald. I sure don’t think we will.

    Look at how Google, Facebook, and Twitter (among others) are engaging in the same sort of fabrication and erasure that the MSM has always practiced. Nature of the beast, did I mention? Power corrupts. It especially corrupts those prone to being corrupted ;)

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  122. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Laugh Track

    The Nation went over to the other side during the Cold War. They’ve never repudiated their past, nor have they had in the last 80-odd years a conjoined change in ownership and editorial supervision wherein you had a new regime not implicated in the acts of the old regime. I’m not inclined to take instruction in social ethics from people who were press agents for Fidel Castro, because such people are intellectual and moral frauds.
     
    The Nation appears to be edited on auto-pilot, with a rotation of predictable identity politics columnists, book reviews that read like rejects from the NYRB, and articles that are largely op-eds passing themselves off as journalism. The nadir of such bluffery this past year was an article by an "activist" who asserted -- citing Wilhelm "Orgone Box" Reich -- that the petite bourgeoisie (i.e., small business owners and the middle class) were the roots of Fascism.

    Meanwhile, The Nation is constantly raising funds by promoting high-ticket Nation Cruises several times a year (typically featuring "editor" Katrina vanden Heuvel and other worthies such as Calvin Trillin and Rev. Dr. William J. Barber II) to Puerto Vallarta, Cuba, etc. And then there is The Nation Wine Club. Oh, and let's not forget the regular ads for the Men's Liberty (TM) "external and non-invasive" alternative to Adult Diapers.

    Oooh, I really should never have let that subscription lapse!

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  123. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @stillCARealist
    Did you mean Trader Joe's? Trader Vic's was a bar in SF that Herb Cain drank in in the 80's. He loved to mention it in his columns.

    From your wickerpedia:

    During the Tiki culture fad of the 1950s and 1960s, as many as 25 Trader Vic’s restaurants were in operation worldwide. They all featured the popular mix of Polynesian artifacts, unique cocktails, and exotic cuisine. The chain of restaurants grew and is credited as one of the first successful themed chains, a marketing model that many other restaurants followed. In 1972 the original location in Oakland was closed and replaced by a bayfront restaurant in nearby Emeryville, now considered the chain’s flagship restaurant. In the 1980s and 1990s, the chain began to shrink as a younger generation had little connection to the chain’s tiki theme.

    I’m feeling too hip for the room.

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  124. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    "The Nation" is really skilled at making money. Good for them.

    On the other hand, it's not very interesting intellectually anymore. Yes, it does seem like the junior varsity "New York Review of Books," which is suffering from the extreme age of its regular contributors, but at least still has pretty high standards.

    I wonder what Katrina vanden Heuvel, who got her 25-years-older college professor to dump his wife and two kids to marry her AND who interned at National Lampoon in 1979, thinks of the #MeToo thingy? I notice she has a well scrubbed wikipedia entry, that’s always a tell isn’t it. ;)

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    Her grandfather Jules Stein was Al Capone's business partner in the Chicago speakeasy business.
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  125. Isolee says:
    @dfordoom
    I'd love for someone to offer an example of a political argument that was won by reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures.

    You can win political arguments in several ways. One way is to be more effective than your opponents in appealing to the emotions. To do that you need to control a significant fraction of the media/entertainment industry. Another way is to have control of all the important institutions and simply shut down dissent. A third way is to use the state monopoly on organised violence to enforce your point of view at the barrel of a gun.

    Reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures, are not going to do it.

    I’d love for someone to offer an example of a political argument that was won by reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures.

    You can argue monetarism under Reagan was – I’d certainly say the British version under Thatcher was. Clinton era welfare reform also springs to mind.

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  126. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Cokie Roberts is not the type to give credence to conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination, as far as I know, regardless of whatever doubts about the evidence proffered for the “lone-nut” theory preferred by the Establishment (and Steve Sailer) that her father might have taken to his (presumed) death in the wilds of Alaska.
     
    If your congressman father had privately shared with you misgivings about the convenient official "lone gunman" narrative re JFK, and then met an unexpected end in murky circumstances, would you go public with the very story that MIGHT have got your father killed?

    Note that Cokie Roberts has two children (per WP).

    P.S.: BTW the REAL QUESTION is: who arranged the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald? Do we really believe, in 2018, that a mob-affiliated nightclub owner sacrificed himself purely to save Jackie from the indignity of having to testify?

    BTW the REAL QUESTION is: who arranged the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald? Do we really believe, in 2018, that a mob-affiliated nightclub owner sacrificed himself purely to save Jackie from the indignity of having to testify?

    Ruby did it all on his own, as did Oswald. Mental illness (in these particular cases depression combined with narcissistic personality disorder) is real and it is a powerful activator.

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  127. @Tulip
    I personally think this is all a result of the Left in the West not getting fully behind Comrade Lysenko, who was absolutely right that genetics is not compatible with dialectical materialism, or any form of ideology based on the blank slate. Genetics is "Alt-Right".

    Unless we root out the "science" of genetics and the "Bourgeois/Genetic theory" of evolution, we will never escape the threat to equality. As usual, Stalin was right, at least with respect to the political and ideological calculus.

    Steve has got to do a post on Lysenko sometime. I mean it just shows there’s nothing new under the sun.

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  128. @anonymous
    I wonder what Katrina vanden Heuvel, who got her 25-years-older college professor to dump his wife and two kids to marry her AND who interned at National Lampoon in 1979, thinks of the #MeToo thingy? I notice she has a well scrubbed wikipedia entry, that’s always a tell isn’t it. ;)

    Her grandfather Jules Stein was Al Capone’s business partner in the Chicago speakeasy business.

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  129. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous

    Cokie Roberts is not the type to give credence to conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination, as far as I know, regardless of whatever doubts about the evidence proffered for the “lone-nut” theory preferred by the Establishment (and Steve Sailer) that her father might have taken to his (presumed) death in the wilds of Alaska.
     
    If your congressman father had privately shared with you misgivings about the convenient official "lone gunman" narrative re JFK, and then met an unexpected end in murky circumstances, would you go public with the very story that MIGHT have got your father killed?

    Note that Cokie Roberts has two children (per WP).

    P.S.: BTW the REAL QUESTION is: who arranged the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald? Do we really believe, in 2018, that a mob-affiliated nightclub owner sacrificed himself purely to save Jackie from the indignity of having to testify?

    If your congressman father had privately shared with you misgivings about the convenient official “lone gunman” narrative re JFK, and then met an unexpected end in murky circumstances,

    There were no murky circumstances. He died in a plane crash. The crash was over water and they couldn’t locate the wreckage.

    He was on the Warren Commission and subscribed to its report. Gerald Ford was on the Warren Commission as well. See Ron Nessen’s account of his conversations with Gerald Ford about ‘misgivings’. Ford told him the Commission was careful in its report to say they had ‘found’ no evidence rather than saying there was no evidence of x, y. z. Those were the ‘misgivings’.

    I’m fascinated to know what some crew of shadowy wire-pullers hoped to achieve by killing Hale Boggs eight years after the Warren Commission had issued it’s report (as well as killing Nick Begich in the bargain – Begich was a back-bench member of Congress who knew nothing about the Kennedy Assassination other than what he read in the papers).

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  130. Art Deco says:
    @Steve Sailer
    "The Nation" is really skilled at making money. Good for them.

    On the other hand, it's not very interesting intellectually anymore. Yes, it does seem like the junior varsity "New York Review of Books," which is suffering from the extreme age of its regular contributors, but at least still has pretty high standards.

    On the other hand, it’s not very interesting intellectually anymore. Yes, it does seem like the junior varsity “New York Review of Books,” which is suffering from the extreme age of its regular contributors, but at least still has pretty high standards.

    What are you talking about? The Nation has long been red-haze birdcage liner. Their formatting and style has borne no resemblance tho those of The New York Review. The New York Review is amply stocked with academic contributors who have scholarly publication under their belt. Other than Stephen Cohen, The Nation‘s academic contributors have been drawn from the most cretinous segment of the academy. Mostly, they’ve published polemicists like Katha Pollitt and Penny Lernoux. (Well, Noam Chomsky’s defense of the Khmer Rouge was published in The Nation courtesy Victor Navasky’s predecessor).

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  131. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous

    Cokie Roberts is not the type to give credence to conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination, as far as I know, regardless of whatever doubts about the evidence proffered for the “lone-nut” theory preferred by the Establishment (and Steve Sailer) that her father might have taken to his (presumed) death in the wilds of Alaska.
     
    If your congressman father had privately shared with you misgivings about the convenient official "lone gunman" narrative re JFK, and then met an unexpected end in murky circumstances, would you go public with the very story that MIGHT have got your father killed?

    Note that Cokie Roberts has two children (per WP).

    P.S.: BTW the REAL QUESTION is: who arranged the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald? Do we really believe, in 2018, that a mob-affiliated nightclub owner sacrificed himself purely to save Jackie from the indignity of having to testify?

    P.S.: BTW the REAL QUESTION is: who arranged the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald? Do we really believe, in 2018, that a mob-affiliated nightclub owner sacrificed himself purely to save Jackie from the indignity of having to testify?

    That’s not a ‘real question’. Ruby was a nightclub impresario and had to do business with sketchy unions and people running protection rackets. Those were his ‘mob affiliations’.

    He was a famously impetuous and garrulous man, as well as given to sentimentality now and again. At the time he shot Oswald, his beloved dog was waiting for him in his car.

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  132. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous
    Harvard has a "film" major? This destruction thing is happening so fast nowadays.

    Harvard has a “film” major? This destruction thing is happening so fast nowadays.

    No more scandalous than a studio art program or a theatre-and-dance program. (Emma Sulkowicz, aka ‘Mattress Girl’ was an art major). Rather less scandalous than the victimology programs you find in arts and sciences faculties.

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  133. NOTA says:
    @syonredux

    These new white supremacists are coming not with tiki torches but with reasoned arguments, buttressed by facts and figures, to make palatable racist ideas that many people, deep down, have always felt were true. …
     
    My God.....How twisted can the Alt-Right can be.....To actually use reasoned arguments that are buttressed by facts and figure....

    To be fair, as far as the average journalist is concerned, using techniques from a first year stat class, plus looking up official numbers from government websites, is Voldemort-level use of the dark arts. For some reason, journalists are basically all innumerate and most are technophobes. It must feel terribly unfair when someone expects them to understand the difference between the mean and the whole population, or think in terms of overlapping bell curves—the way I’d feel if every political discussion required an understanding of string theory or something.

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  134. Brutusale says:
    @ScarletNumber
    No, he meant Trader Vic's, where I once saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada.

    Was his hair perfect?

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  135. NOTA says:
    @anon

    At the reception, people chatted over cocktails, and another neighbor—whose son is friends with our son—expressed his support for the acquittal, insisting that Zimmerman had killed Martin in self-defense. “I was taken aback,” Stephanie recalls. Our neighbor had “no discernible empathy for Trayvon.”
     
    I don't know whether the kid has empathy for a guy who took it upon himself to pin someone to the ground and hit his head against a sidewalk, but isn't it at least possible that he did have some empathy, but still realized that the evidence showed it to be an open-and-shut case?

    Aren't they sort of painting themselves into a corner here, by dividing the world into either a) white supremacists or b) people who are so in favor of black violence that they don't think whites should be allowed to defend themselves from it? Of the two, white supremacism seems to be the much better option.

    Trayvon looks like he was probably just been a dumb kid who freaked out about being followed, jumped Zimmerman, and got shot. The whole thing looks more like idiot-meets-idiot tragedy than any particular malevolence. By contrast, Brown looks to have actually been a criminal looking for trouble—there was physical evidence of him struggling with Wilson for his gun. I’ve got a lot more sympathy for Trayvon (teenaged bravado leads you to disaster—that could definitely have happened to me as a kid) than Brown (criminal runs up against a cop, tries to take the cop’s gun, and gets shot for his troubles.)

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    Trayvon looks like he was probably just been a dumb kid who freaked out about being followed, jumped Zimmerman, and got shot.

    He wasn't being followed. He was being observed for a time because he ambled through someone else's yard (a man Zimmerman knew face-to-face) and was shlepping around at an oddly slow pace given that it was raining out. Martin could see that he was being observed. He made a point of letting Zimmerman know that he was observing him (Zimmerman remarks in his conversation to the dispatcher that 'now he's checking me out'). Martin having made a point of inspecting Zimmerman's truck then ambled about 30 feet down a walkway and then (a propos of nothing in particular) ran down an alley. Martin's behavior was such that it was a reasonable inference he was up to no good and too undisciplined to avoid tells. Zimmerman got out of his truck to try to keep Martin in eyeshot, a task at which he failed. He never caught sight of him and there is no indication he headed down the alley. (Keep in mind he was conversing with the police dispatcher and what he was doing was recorded in real time). He was loitering around waiting for the police to arrive when Martin resurfaced and attacked him.
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  136. NOTA says:
    @bomag

    baldly stating that IQ studies are “discredited”
     
    After publication of The Bell Curve, all the critical reviews I read droned on about how the data was bad; sample sizes were too small; etc.

    Instead of being refutations, they were really calls for more and better data.

    And as more and better data accumulates, the critics just announce that they are against the results for political reasons.

    Most of the reviews I read of the Bell Curve made it clear the reviewers either hadn’t bothered to read the book, or had already decided what their review would say before they read it and so ignored its actual content. This was enormously valuable to me in learning how much faith to put in mainstream media reviews of politically controversial books.

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  137. NOTA says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    The left is trying to reconcile its contradictions, as was apparent in the Steven Pinker statement recently linked at iSteve.

    --He acknowledges that many of the hate-facts that place people on the alt-right are correct.
    --He acknowledges that progressives refuse to accept those facts and actively suppress them, going so far as to punish those who hold them.
    --Pinker suggests that progressives need to acknowledge those facts but steer alt-right people away from the logical inferences drawn from them that he considers radical and dangerous.

    How to do this? As explained in a recent NYT op-ed, "For example, while at the moment it’s true that, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the homicide rate is higher for blacks than for whites, that doesn’t really tell us anything about a group of people since at different times in history, different groups have had elevated crime rates — at one point Irish-Americans did."

    The alt-right view is grounded in reality, while Pinker's rebuttal is wishful thinking--"You're wrong to think this because I can imagine a future where your view is not correct." He thinks that reflecting on the fact that the Irish used to be especially violent should make us confident that blacks may someday not be so violent. But there's no logic in this, it's a false equivalence. It's like Obama saying that because the Italians and Irish assimilated, then we should expect Muslims and Mexicans to assimilate too, without acknowledging that blacks and American Indians have never really assimilated.

    The situation parallels that of the Church confronting Galileo, its chief concern being that that to acknowledge the fact that the earth rotates around the sun would weaken religious faith among the masses and therefore it was best to suppress it.

    Nevertheless, I don't expect any cessation of the attempt to suppress any facts considered heretical by the Progressive religious faith.

    Pinker, Weinstein, Paige Harden, etc., are exactly what we need in the world—liberal thinkers coming to grips with the implications of hbd ideas, and trying to work through the implications for policy and for society. If we thing hbd yields some true insights (I do), then we want smart people all over the political spectrum to be using them to think through what we should do about them. That’s how things get better—liberals will think about an entirely different set of problems and questions than conservatives or libertarians when faced with the insights of hbd, and will be inclined to correct our blind spots.

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  138. NOTA says:
    @Bill

    The situation parallels that of the Church confronting Galileo, its chief concern being that that to acknowledge the fact that the earth rotates around the sun would weaken religious faith among the masses and therefore it was best to suppress it.
     
    That wasn't the issue at all.

    Note to self: if you want to avoid unwelcome attention from the Inquisition, don’t publish a book that insults the pope, especially while also pushing on potentially heretical ideas.

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  139. NOTA says:
    @gunner29

    Saw Bret Weinstein says he reluctantly supports looking more into IQ differences – because if the left is going to treat any differences in outcomes between different groups as ironclad evidence of racism, then it makes sense to investigate all possible reasons for the disparities to see if they are right.

    It seems possible that in the next decade, more and more left-leaning intellectuals (at least those without “studies” in the title of their degrees) are going to grapple with this issue and won’t like what they find.
     
    Unfortunately it will never happen. There will probably be some lone wolves that will. But in private and not mentioned to any other lefty.

    First one that comes out is shouted down by the rest of the mob and thrown out of the left. That will be sufficient warning for any other heretics.

    The Thought Police are strong on the left....

    I suspect Bret Weinstein’s fear of being shouted down by an SJW mob is somewhat tempered by the fact that it has already happened, and he was hounded out of his job along with his wife by the SJW mob. (Or perhaps by some Machiavellian faculty using the mob to gain power.).

    Having already excommunicated and exiled him from his lifelong beloved career, there’s not a lot more threat available there. If the SJWs were a top down movement, someone would quietly offer him and his wife a new academic job somewhere to give him reasons to tone down his heresy, along the lines of offering Martin Luther a position as a bishop to forestall the Reformation.

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  140. Tulip says:

    It is sad to say, but a general rule that proves true is that when confronted with a political situation, ask yourself “What would Stalin do?”

    You might get your hands dirty, but you stand a good chance of dying peacefully secure in your dacha while you sleep. . . and you are sure to get legacy positive coverage in the NY Times–and hundreds of goodthink scribes trying to revise the numbers downwards of all the innocents you slaughtered.

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  141. Tulip says:

    Steve:

    Pinker cites some evidence of high Irish crime rates, something I have never encountered in any criminology literature I have ever seen.

    Is he pulling this out of his rear end, is there some data on this? I’m not aware of any European demographic with comparables to African-American homicide rates in the modern period.

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    Dareseay it's anecdotal. There were the draft riots in NYC, of course--when newly-arrived Irish immigrants discovered they were forced to join the northern industrialists' slave army to put down the southern rebellion... So there's that... And maybe he's thinking of public drinking on St Patty's day too...
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  142. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Tulip
    Steve:

    Pinker cites some evidence of high Irish crime rates, something I have never encountered in any criminology literature I have ever seen.

    Is he pulling this out of his rear end, is there some data on this? I'm not aware of any European demographic with comparables to African-American homicide rates in the modern period.

    Dareseay it’s anecdotal. There were the draft riots in NYC, of course–when newly-arrived Irish immigrants discovered they were forced to join the northern industrialists’ slave army to put down the southern rebellion… So there’s that… And maybe he’s thinking of public drinking on St Patty’s day too…

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    There were the draft riots in NYC, of course–when newly-arrived Irish immigrants discovered they were forced to join the northern industrialists’ slave army to put down the southern rebellion…

    The Confederate states practiced conscription as well. Conscription into the Union army was quite unusual, not encompassing even 20,000 people. Those who did not volunteer paid a large bounty or, alternatively, paid a smaller bounty and recruited a volunteer in their place. IIRC, nominal conscription applied to those between the ages of 21 and 45 (among those without dependent children) and to those between 21 and 35 (among those with children).
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  143. Art Deco says:
    @NOTA
    Trayvon looks like he was probably just been a dumb kid who freaked out about being followed, jumped Zimmerman, and got shot. The whole thing looks more like idiot-meets-idiot tragedy than any particular malevolence. By contrast, Brown looks to have actually been a criminal looking for trouble—there was physical evidence of him struggling with Wilson for his gun. I’ve got a lot more sympathy for Trayvon (teenaged bravado leads you to disaster—that could definitely have happened to me as a kid) than Brown (criminal runs up against a cop, tries to take the cop’s gun, and gets shot for his troubles.)

    Trayvon looks like he was probably just been a dumb kid who freaked out about being followed, jumped Zimmerman, and got shot.

    He wasn’t being followed. He was being observed for a time because he ambled through someone else’s yard (a man Zimmerman knew face-to-face) and was shlepping around at an oddly slow pace given that it was raining out. Martin could see that he was being observed. He made a point of letting Zimmerman know that he was observing him (Zimmerman remarks in his conversation to the dispatcher that ‘now he’s checking me out’). Martin having made a point of inspecting Zimmerman’s truck then ambled about 30 feet down a walkway and then (a propos of nothing in particular) ran down an alley. Martin’s behavior was such that it was a reasonable inference he was up to no good and too undisciplined to avoid tells. Zimmerman got out of his truck to try to keep Martin in eyeshot, a task at which he failed. He never caught sight of him and there is no indication he headed down the alley. (Keep in mind he was conversing with the police dispatcher and what he was doing was recorded in real time). He was loitering around waiting for the police to arrive when Martin resurfaced and attacked him.

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  144. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous
    Dareseay it's anecdotal. There were the draft riots in NYC, of course--when newly-arrived Irish immigrants discovered they were forced to join the northern industrialists' slave army to put down the southern rebellion... So there's that... And maybe he's thinking of public drinking on St Patty's day too...

    There were the draft riots in NYC, of course–when newly-arrived Irish immigrants discovered they were forced to join the northern industrialists’ slave army to put down the southern rebellion…

    The Confederate states practiced conscription as well. Conscription into the Union army was quite unusual, not encompassing even 20,000 people. Those who did not volunteer paid a large bounty or, alternatively, paid a smaller bounty and recruited a volunteer in their place. IIRC, nominal conscription applied to those between the ages of 21 and 45 (among those without dependent children) and to those between 21 and 35 (among those with children).

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  145. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Charles Pewitt
    The Alt-Right is a lot bigger than the corporate propaganda whores and the overpaid arseholes in academia think. All the Alt-Right is is people who believe that European Christians are the ancestral core of the United States, and that these White Core Americans have interests just like other racial groups.

    The name Alt-Right specifically refers to the rejection of anti-White neo-conservatism and anti-White Chamber of Commerce conservatism. The Alt-Right rejects the authority or the so-called "leadership" of the donor-controlled Republican Party ruling class.

    The Alt-Right is the most powerful force in American politics today. The future belongs to the Alt-Right in all European Christian nations. Indeed, in Germany, the Alternative for Deutschland(AfD) political party will soon be the kingmaker in Germany.

    In the United States, France, Germany, England, Australia, Russia, the Netherlands, Denmark and other European Christian nations, the old political order that pushed nation-wrecking mass immigration, sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams and globalization is about to be wiped out. The Alt-Right is well-placed to emerge as the ruling power wherever the European Christian people call home.

    In the United States, France, Germany, England, Australia, Russia, the Netherlands, Denmark and other European Christian nations, the old political order that pushed nation-wrecking mass immigration, sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams and globalization is about to be wiped out. The Alt-Right is well-placed to emerge as the ruling power wherever the European Christian people call home.

    I don’t know what you’re smoking but it’s good stuff.

    In Australia I can assure you that the old political order that pushed nation-wrecking mass immigration, sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams and globalization is still in absolute control. And if you’re imagining Australia as a place that European Christian people call home you’re delusional. Christianity is as dead as a doornail in Australia.

    One of the things that amazes me about the alt-right is the insane degree of over-confidence and wishful thinking.

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  146. Jefferson says:

    The Alt-Right are way more interested in the JQ than they are on Black crime. The people most interested in the subject of Black crime like Heather Mac Donald and Colin Flaherty are not Alt-Right all. They are not in the same category as Richard Spencer and David Duke.

    This is how you can tell apart the Alt-Right from the so-called “normie White racists” as the Alt-Right refers to them, the former is way more obsessed with Jews and the latter concentrates entirely on Blacks.

    That is why I never understood why the Left associates citing Black crime statistics with the Alt-Right.

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