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From iSteve commenter J1234 on that New York Times op-ed by Princeton University history professor Nell Irvin Painter about how white people must be to blame for a recent unfortunate incident involving South Asians and blacks (even though no whites were involved whatsoever):

I also see this incident through a “different lens” (as the author of the article puts it), at least in terms of the author’s perspective on the case: It’s another example of narrative based justice rising to challenge the supremacy of evidence based justice (i.e., social justice vs. actual justice.) The two used to be somewhat complimentary, but now they’re becoming competitors in the eyes of many people. It’s my belief that people like the author look forward to the day when essentially all justice is arrived at by narrative established by her political perspective. Even justice concerning petty assaults like the incident mentioned. Maybe traffic accidents, eventually. Who’s black or white and who isn’t will have as much – or more – bearing on determining who’s guilty and who isn’t in even the smallest cases. Whites weren’t even involved in this case, but they’re guilty because we all know that people in India never mistreated other people until they moved to New Jersey.

There’s also desperation on the author’s part, however. Maybe she thinks the anti-white coalition among non-whites is unraveling, and she’s starting to panic. Maybe she knows that hate-crime laws were established to protect the world against white people, and she can’t let the public get used to any alternative version of that story.

Personally, I don’t venture out of my office/closet much these days, so I’m out of touch with what’s happening, but I’m starting to get the impression that The Great Awokening is starting to spill out into real life, with increased racial obnoxiousness in daily interactions. The good news is that the average American of whatever race isn’t anywhere near as vile in terms of wanting to stir up racial hate as the typical New York Times op-ed contributor. But this constant haranguing by prestigious racists like Professor Painter does threaten to spill into daily life.

 
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  1. Complimentary or complementary ?

  2. Complimentary or ComplEmentary?

  3. Dtbb says:

    At least in my interactions politeness begats politeness. I don’t get out much either though. There is still a section of town I wouldn’t walk around in at night. It has always been this in my lifetime.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  4. The Z Blog says: • Website

    The good news is that the average American of whatever race isn’t anywhere near as vile in terms of wanting to stir up racial hate as the typical New York Times op-ed contributor.

    That’s a pretty low bar. Is it possible to be more vile than the typical New York Times contributor?

    • Agree: jim jones, TWS
  5. Maybe it’s my location, nowhere near New Jersey, thank God, but I’m not seeing it. Daily interactions with people show that most people still have goodness in their hearts and aren’t spoiling for an argument or fight. Of course, we don’t read the NY Times where I live, unless it’s vicariously through Steve Sailer.

    This does break down at locations like the university campus where all the posters of the wokeness crap are antagonistic, at least to me, putting me in a foul mood. Then, there is the corporate input, say, a Starbucks location with it’s racial BS on the cups. I think most people are embarrassed by it, and would rather ignore it.

    Lastly, I can say that one’s bringing up politics with strangers can set someone off in a hurry. It’s no 1985, that’s for sure.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  6. This has got to be on-topic in one way or another– everything is interconnected, isn’t it?

    Ilhan Omar’s new flame is leaving a Macronesque marriage. He’s 38, she’s 55. Ilhan’s a spry 37.

    Okay, on with the tropes…

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7588845/Ilhan-Omar-lives-brazen-double-life-married-campaign-aide.html

  7. When there is no backlash the assumption builds that there will never be a backlash. The physics of this eludes the SJWs, and so it builds and builds. And when the dam finally breaks, the SJWs will be astonished when everything they worked so assiduously to construct is swept away in a conflagration of pent up ill will.

    The parasite class cannot live past the death of the host. Those golden eggs were not to be found in the entrails of the golden goose.

    Don’t give up your 2nd Amendment rights.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  8. JAhd says:

    Numerous conversations with white suburban soccer moms who are noticing hostility from blacks, especially black women.

    When the wine mom begins to hate…

  9. Luke Lea says:

    “prestigious racists” — I like that phrase. A privilege of the few.

  10. My (stock exchange traded) company has increased the proportion of woman in leadership positions from 21% to 34% over the past two years. It is targeting a 45% proportion by 2021. Even if one accepts (and I don’t) that a more equitable male / female split is a noble long term goal, it is difficult to contemplate how such a decisive short term shift can occur without massive and arbitrary discrimination. At his quarterly telegraphs, the president of my business division hastens to cheerily emphasize this, with the expectation that we – all men and women employees – are supposed to take it with a shit eating grin. Suffice it to say, I am lining up my alternative employment options; I intend to screw my company over as much as possible when I depart (deleting, mangling, rendering as useless all of the computer programs I have created, etc) and I am looking to shift to more startup / remote contractor based / boutique level work.

  11. Moses says:

    Put another way — It’s all “who/whom” these days.

    And yeah — non-White judges already are beginning to rule this way.

    It will get much worse before it gets better.

    • Replies: @jpp
    , @Laurence Whelk
  12. Farenheit says:

    In the Last year or so, the tech company I work for decided to a) rename the holiday on December 24th and 25th previously know as Christmas eve and Christmas to “Winter Break”, B) start a LGBQT club, so these “people” can get together and talk about being one or another of those letters C) started a women’s group to talk about their issues, the group is called “women of k…….” or “WOK” on company e-mails, and D) let the office manager know that decorating the lunchroom to reflect American holidays is a no-no.

    So yes the idiocy is slowly seeping into the regular world.

  13. Anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:

  14. @blackbodies

    BRAVO!

    (uhhh, get some other references lined up first .. of course …)

  15. Whiskey says: • Website

    I do think it will only get worse. Consider this, there are only so many decent jobs. What kept the Stalin era denunciations and camps going was that ordinary people got well involved because why not remove rivals with allegations, since there were no consequences as in previous village life where denouncing someone for witchcraft meant dealing with angry relatives.

    Denouncing Whites for being Whites and demanding they are replaced by denouncers, who are people of color, is a fast-lane route to Easy Street. Why not? What’s the comeback? Are non-Whites going to suffer any comeback?

    White men are totally disarmed in what amounts to a shoot out in tribal lands in the ME. Whoever puts together a White men only cultural/social self-defense group will have great power. He could extract kingship type tribute for providing in effect fiefs. Protection against White men’s enemies: people of color, White women.

    Related: good news, Katie Hill is resigning from Congress. The woman card did not protect her.

  16. jpp says:
    @Moses

    Moses: get better? Get better! You panglossian fool, it will not get better. Plan your escape route.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Moses
  17. Danindc says:

    I fear it will make blacks more hostile. I definitely think it’s making university-educated blacks much more hostile. Reminds me of back in middle school when they always showed Roots around MLK day. I sat in back of the room thinking ‘can’t you see this is a bad idea’…

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    , @Kronos
  18. hhsiii says:
    @blackbodies

    I never burn bridges. My wife got fired after her second pregnancy.she thought of suing. I said no, it’s a small guild. Now her old boss shmoozes her for business.

    • Agree: International Jew
  19. Arclight says:

    I would say I don’t really notice any difference in day to day interactions with ordinary people, but nearly every community event/conference I attend has some session or speaker that devotes itself to racism, equity, ‘justice’ of varying sorts and so on. Added to that is the willingness of people who are clearly not oppressed willing to blame anything in their career or business not going their way on racism or misogyny.

    That said, I was a little heartened at a recent event about homelessness and approaches to try and help those with mental health of substance abuse issues. Most of the session that day dealt with pretty cut and dry information but one module was of course about structural racism as an explanation for why blacks are over represented in the local homeless population and we had to sit through a video featuring black people talking about how racist they felt society was, and then most of the handful black of attendees chimed in with their feelings. Despite the moderator clearly being very excited to talk about structural racism and numerous attempts to prod other attendees to voice agreement or speak up, the rest of the room sat stone-faced through the presentation and said absolutely nothing, which meant this segment of the day was over pretty quick. Throughout the day the moderator kept offering attendees the opportunity to access more information on structural racism to take home or ponder, and not a single person took him up on it. It offered a glimmer of hope that even at an event at which I am positive the majority of the attendees are on the left politically, most are just not that into this concept.

  20. The pernicious anti-white philosophy will continue to grow and spread — and become permanently embedded in (more) laws and policies that officially make whites second class citizens.

    This will keep up until white people finally say “no more.” And actively fight back against the corrupt elite institutions like Princeton and the NYT that are pushing this racial marxism.

    At this point the evildoers are just pushing against an open door, however.

  21. Bill P says:

    I’ve seen a couple incidents in the past six months, both involving petty black criminals crying “racism!” when caught. But there are very few blacks where I live now, so it isn’t the kind of thing I’d come across on a daily basis.

    This problem is likely to mainly afflict woke whites who live in progressive urban areas, so I’m not too concerned.

  22. Hail says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman

    bringing up politics with strangers can set someone off in a hurry

    Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, worth earnest scholarly attention. Let’s have it.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  23. @Moses

    It will get much worse before it gets better.

    I would change one word of your statement:

    “It will get much worse before it gets worse.”

  24. Who’s black or white and who isn’t will have as much – or more – bearing on determining who’s guilty

    Yeah, but once that happens, Whites will Finally Wake Up and then we’ll Really Turn This Around.

    First they laugh at you, then they deplatform you, then they lock you up, then they execute you and kick your body into a ditch, THEN YOU WIN.

    • LOL: bomag
  25. Anonymous[967] • Disclaimer says:

    Average, “man on the street” type of any race doesn’t care much about this stuff, at least in my experience. And that really goes for all identity politics. I genuinely don’t feel like interactions between people of different races or genders feel much different than they did 10 years ago. The media wants us to believe certain things that many just have a hard time accepting. You still hear people making sly comments about e.g. trans ideology not infrequently.

    But there is a subset of bourgeois scum who are hyper-vigilant and hyper-aggressive about enforcing PC ideology and sowing discord. Probably more common in certain areas (Northeast, West Coast) and certain settings (universities, large corporations etc). That is a new development, and they’re given essentially unlimited latitude by their employers and by the courts to be as hectoring and thuggish and intolerant as they please. They’re a threat, and their influence far outstrips their numbers. History is made by determined minorities.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    , @Bill
  26. Since I don’t live in the USA, and haven’t for a long time, I can’t speak to much day-to-day experience of growing wokeness there.

    But here in Hong Kong, which until recently has been a fairly relaxed place when it comes to talking politics and other controversial topics, things have changed. Now every conversation with people whose views you don’t know well has to tip-toe around the ‘Are you yellow (i.e. pro-HK protesters) or blue (pro-police/pro-establishment). This has noticeably degraded social occasions in my experience.

    What I do encounter coming out of the USA is the spread of wokeness into every single topic and sphere one can imagine. Sports are a good example. I’m at work, and can’t watch the World Series, so I’ve got a tab on my browser open with MLB’s official ‘gamecast’, which includes play-by-play updates, a box score, and a ‘feed’ that aggregates game-related updates, including tweets from selected sources. Here’s the one I just saw a couple of minutes ago during the 7th inning. It’s from a ‘Nationals Beat Writer’:

    No one can simply be allowed to enjoy a baseball game without confronting structural racism.

    This wokemonist discourse factory is dropping its putrid products into every facet of pop culture. It’s tiresome. But will it eventually grind us all down into acquiesence, or will the backlash come and sweep it away?

  27. @JAhd

    Black women have always been nasty to my wife and nice to me. This is not a new thing. A skinny one at Home Depot today apologized for giving me my $50 cash all in fives, leaned against my arm and called me darling. Good thing my wife wasn’t there.

    Around here anyway, there doesn’t seem to be much wokeness among the black ladies, and the only chance I get to run into a black man is when one is ambling across the street in the middle of a block somewhere far from where I live.

    • Replies: @Fun
  28. MBlanc46 says:
    @blackbodies

    Just make sure that you don’t leave any tracks when you leave your departing gift. A colleague with whom I had worked quite closely at a large reference book publisher sabotaged the database when he was sacked. They traced it to his terminal and forced him, on pain of prosecution, to pay for its restoration to the status quo ante (tens of thousands of dollars). Good hunting, but take care.

  29. newrouter says:

    >The next year I published a paper giving IQs for 79 regions of
    France showing that the average IQ is highest in Paris<

    https://atavisionary.com/a-retrospective-on-working-on-racial-differences-in-intelligence-by-richard-lynn/

    Seeing the stupidity emanating from the capitol of France, nurture over nature. Proggs are a cult.

    • Replies: @newrouter
    , @Ian Smith
  30. Al Bundy says:

    Two friends of mine on the east coast tell me that wokeness makes dating somewhat miserable.

  31. MBlanc46 says:
    @Arclight

    Thanks for the anecdote. Stone-faced silent resistance may be all that we have in our arsenal for quite a while.

  32. I’m guessing it depends on where your real life is and how mixed up you have to be with the woke.

    I’m generally distant but courteous with strangers of all types, but make special efforts to avoid unnecessary involvements with women and non-whites, excluding perhaps East Asians. I’m a married man in my fifties, and I don’t need any other women in my life – I see them as more potential trouble than asset. I see no big problem with this: my married father in the ’60s and ’70s had no women friends – just his wife, his mother, a sister and some relatives. He made no effort to get close to the wives of any of his friends or the women where he worked. I think there was a wisdom in that culture.

    I live in one of the main metro areas of clown world and I see a cavalcade of freaks on a nearly daily basis. Fortunately I’m tall, probably give off the (correct) impression that I am ex-military and have a face that looks harder than I really am.

    I don’t get myself in any discussion I don’t want to have, I don’t feel obligated to answer questions just because they are asked – I just try to change the subject if I don’t like it. In my view, if a person keeps pressing you after two attempted subject changes, then they are being rude and no longer deserve my courtesy.

    I’m no anthropologist, but I do have the impression that Euro-dominated civilization is going down the tubes, whether it’s 50 years or 500. I’m just trying to take care of myself, those around me and my sphere of concern. I don’t see in the White people I know or come in contact with any real potential for reversal of this.

    • Agree: Dissident
    • Replies: @slumber_j
    , @bomag
    , @A1
  33. MBlanc46 says:
    @Anonymous

    I’ve never encountered an average “man on the street” American black who didn’t have anti-white resentment percolating under the surface, just waiting for something to set it off.

    • Replies: @Hail
  34. @Reg Cæsar

    The only thing that would make this hotter is if Omar raised her hypocrisy to the ultimate level and insisted that her boytoy upgrade to a 5.0L, V8 Mustang.

  35. Hail says: • Website
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    At least they don’t force baseball players to go out on the field and deliver lectures to the assembled fans, before the game begins, on how bad racism is.

    European soccer players have often had to do so. It feels like some kind of bizarre hostage- or POW situation — people awkwardly forced to read propaganda to cameras.

  36. fish says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Yeah Julian……if professional sports has a problem it’s finding talent with melanin!

    Who are these morons?

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  37. KunioKun says:

    Pronouns are a thing in lots of places now where educated young people work.

    Went to see the Addams Family cartoon with my family. The Blacks in the audience were not very happy about the gay Black character.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  38. Hail says: • Website
    @MBlanc46

    It seems that you have not met the green-shirted Black guy in panels 3 and 4 here:

    • Replies: @Tusk
    , @syonredux
  39. Anonymous[118] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m a #MAGA guy living in Boston. There’s a huge disconnect with what I read on Twitter and in the NYT and what I encounter day to day. When I read the former I think the world is mad and unraveling at breakneck speed. When I experience the latter each day I see normal people just living their lives who have concern for their fellow man.

    • Replies: @Jimbo
  40. @MBlanc46

    What else can we do? Have you ever had to listen to managers yammer on about how “brave” a particular colleague was for coming out as transgender? Not that I have any problem with LGBT folks, but how brave are they really when no one dares utter a peep against them?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  41. I really wonder how historians will summarize the present day ~100 years from now. If the Woke maintain their reputation among the elite for accurately documenting society, I bet it’ll be a pretty distorted picture.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  42. newrouter says:
    @newrouter

    After this al-bagadaddy thing: Why were Nancy Pelosi and Adam Shi* in Jordan last week?
    Kinda like SNL last night no?

  43. @Arclight

    If a society is structurally racist, there’s really not much you can do about it. Best to keep the oppressed away from it, so they are not harmed.

  44. theMann says:

    Hostility from Blacks doesn’t seem to have changed much over the course of my life. The rule has always been, one Black fine, two Blacks ok, ten Blacks never, ever, turn your back on them. I suspect it always will be the same. What has changed, I think with serious repercussions in time, is that Blacks have completely used up the goodwill of most Whites in America.

    What has changed is:

    1. The relentless pushing of Women into positions for which they are woefully unqualified; first, because they cannot handle work criticism, much less being torn a new asshole (which happens to all of us on a job sooner or later) and second, because any remotely good looking woman is viciously competitive with any other remotely good looking woman, and realistically, they cannot work together.

    2. Not too sure how it is going to work out for Indian Subcontinent workers, given their obnoxiousness, cupidity, nepotism, and (in IT anyway) less than stellar work. Maybe just another chunk of genuinely alien aliens in our society, but sooner or later, Babel falls.

    In any case, the general Rule is: all Women and non-Whites routinely engage in behavior, if it were one White male to another, would result in a beat down. They think that somehow their Race or Sex magically protects them, when IN FACT, the only thing protecting them is White forbearance. Someday that is going to end.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  45. As the wheels really come off the economy, the wokeness will briefly flare up as desperate peoples of color try to do more of what’s worked for them in the past, and there may be some actual casualties, but it isn’t going to last very long. Wokeness don’t feed the bulldog after all, and there won’t be much patience for paying out reparations when everybody is going broke.

    • Replies: @bomag
  46. @Arclight

    In other words, the dissenters in that room adopted a passive-aggressive posture, though more passive than aggressive.

  47. 22pp22 says:

    Diverse societies don’t work. They never will. I am afraid the Sailerite concept of citizenship is a non-starter. What is coming won’t be nice and I have a gut feeling that it’s coming soon. I am also not at all sure we will come out the other side. Too many ethnomasochists.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @NickG
  48. Though true-believer wokeness is indeed the province of the few, what has spread fast is a knowledge of the latest taboos; everyone’s picked up real fast on what you can’t say (and, more and more, what you must say). As people will, when it makes the difference between a job, and losing it. (And I think everyone knows that you can lose your job for what you post online in your off time.)

    We’re already “the whisperers”, per Orlando Figes’ book about Stalinist Russia. The stakes just aren’t as high for us (yet). But that will change if we get a Dem president next year; what until now relied on HR departments and Twitter mobs, will have the power of the state behind it.

    • Replies: @jpp
  49. For the Bay Area: churches, corporate workplace, friends, dating. Woke culture permeates many churches of all types, including Evangelical Protestant and Catholic. Some preaching I’ve been to recently sounded exactly like it came direct from the Democratic Party, with the added bonus these positions (open borders, anti-American, anti-white, anti-capitalist, pro-feminist, pro-diversity) are now mandated by God, not merely by special interest groups. Although more Evangelicals voted for Trump, I think they concentrate the political leanings of a region: if the region is left leaning many Evangelicals will end up even further left than the general population of that region.
    Corporate workspace: most of my co-workers are foreigners, and yes, many highly paid, pampered guest workers — who the American people treated very well by allowing them in our land in the first place — will repeatedly invoke the language of the Civil Rights Era to describe their personal predicaments here — as in they have a moral and historical grievance against the American people because Americans in the past discriminated against an entirely different group of differently colored people. So this isn’t some top down crap at my company, it’s present at the level of individual tech worker. I do think these attitudes are picked up in American universities from woke Americans.
    Friends: Been denounced for white privilege, and not in mockery of the idea.
    Dating: Trump Derangement Syndrome is absolutely real. It affects schoolteachers and nurses just as much as it does MSM pundits.

  50. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    Spilling over into every day life:
    1. Public schools. My son has anti-racism sermons preached to him in class daily. It is embedded in every lesson, every class. Howard Zinn from his grave runs the public schools in America.
    2. Office chit chat. Watch what you say, very carefully. Avoid workplace friendships and camaradery.
    3. Chit chat with neighbors – don’t talk politics.

    I think the major spill over is for people like us, checking out of many social interactions, because we can’t let people find out what we really think. People on this site can’t even use their real names. When I was young people wrote letters to the editor and signed their real names, without fear.
    John Hancock signed his name in big bold letters.
    Just sign me “anon”.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Achilles Wannabe
  51. jpp says:
    @International Jew

    If you haven’t read Unz blogger Paul Kersey’s recent, Oct 25 dated post concerning South Africa, I would check it out. Recent South African history is hardly my domain of expertise, but I suspect that the increasingly state supported assertion of often violent negro vengeance which is being there enacted furnishes the paradigm case which the US is starting to follow.

    • Replies: @nymom
  52. @fish

    I saw the faces of the starting lineup of each team in the WS this evening. About 40 percent white. Then they showed the umpires. 100 percent white. So we got that goin’ for us.

  53. Yes, “wokeness” has been spilling over into real life for quite some time. It disrupts friendships among the races. I noticed years ago that Asians who were “woke” (not all are), would see events through an anti-White lens.

    I witnessed such a Woke Asian telling a White person to basically be quiet about their work-related complaints of unfair treatment (this was in a private, informal conversation). The Woke Asian had been their personal friend! That friendship came to an end.

  54. @JAhd

    I think everyone, including blacks, are just fed up with the wine moms.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  55. Hell’s Bells, Little Nells & Brittle Matriculated Mademoiselles?

    One would have to have a heart of stone to read of the death of old genocidal black racist Nell without laughing.
    – Oscar The Wild[e] Grouch

    Send not to know for whom the death bell knells; it knells for thee, old genocidal black racist Nell.
    Just Biden My Time,
    Satan
    cc Joe Biden, Johnny B. Donne

  56. Kronos says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Maybe it’s my location, nowhere near New Jersey, thank God, but I’m not seeing it. Daily interactions with people show that most people still have goodness in their hearts and aren’t spoiling for an argument or fight.

    It’s a good point. I believe the negative anti-white messaging resonates far more with mentally ill/neurotic prone individuals than the baseline blue state populace. There are far more people concerned with stable employment/healthcare than racial antagonism for its own sake. Unfortunately, most people are followers and might just go along with it. They won’t enthusiastically support it, but won’t really pushback either. The racial anger stuff is currently the only thing on the Democratic Party’s menu. They can’t increase jobs/pay without instigating a decline in the stock market. The hysterical Millennials are typically middle-upper class and wish to preserve the economic status-quo created under the Clintons in the 1990s. (Because that’s what Neoliberal Mommy, Neocon Daddy, and uncle Goldman Sachs want and will donate money for such support.)

    Those three entities simply want the kids to stage a 1960s style cultural reboot. Gut the New Deal/protectionist policies and go crazy with the cultural stuff (anti-racism/feminism/whatever…)

    I’m worried that this’ll severely damage any future Millennial political leadership. That the political pool will only include little SJW Princesses and burned out/passive male betas.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/are-tiger-daughters-taking-over-the-sjw-racket/

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
  57. @The Last Real Calvinist

    That’s actually a pretty good point. Blacks have largely abandoned/been crowded out of baseball and white parents (like my sisters) do spend a ridiculous amount of time and money on youth sports.

    I don’t follow sports like I used to but I think stateside at least they’ve toned down the wokeness from a couple years ago.

  58. @blackbodies

    What’s your company? So we can refuse to do business with it.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
  59. Tusk says:
    @Hail

    Indeed the whole ‘based minority!’ phenomenon really did some damage in the long run.

    • Agree: Hail
  60. @Hypnotoad666

    This will keep up until white people finally say “no more.” And actively fight back against the corrupt elite institutions like Princeton and the NYT that are pushing this racial marxism.

    True. But what will it take to motivate white people to say, “No more”? Anti-white racism is bad enough now, but there are still a hundred white collaborators for every one willing even to risk speaking out, let alone refusing to be part of the ethnic cleansing.

    We need a support network on behalf of whites who take their own side, so whites don’t have to commit legal and financial suicide to keep their self-respect.

    • Replies: @Screwtape
    , @Harry Baldwin
  61. Anon[536] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arclight

    The fact that workplaces think they need to preach to grown adults, and try to teach grown adults a belief system, is crazy. These organizations are trying to take on a church-religious type role for themselves, which is profoundly arrogant and wrong of them.

    The problem is, the boneheads who run these organizations don’t go to church themselves because they’re secular atheists who nonetheless feel the urge to make themselves into priests and try to ram their own personal beliefs down their employee’s throats. They’re just a bunch of narcissistic assholes who make themselves rich off exploiting your labor while nagging you that your morals aren’t good enough.

    Sweatshops in the 1800s were run by the same type of yoyos. They’d work you to death, underpay you, and tell you that you were moral scum who needed uplifting.

    We need a society of lawsuits to make CEOs mind their own business instead of your personal beliefs.

    • Replies: @bomag
  62. Anon[536] • Disclaimer says:

    I have a suspicion that wokeness is an obsession with the type of middle-class youngster who’s on the lower end of the IQ side, and who uses wokeness to try to keep from sliding down the economic ladder. It’s also the tool (and weapon) of choice of the dumber and untalented academics trying to defend their jobs.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  63. @Danindc

    I fear it will make blacks more hostile. I definitely think it’s making university-educated blacks much more hostile. Reminds me of back in middle school when they always showed Roots around MLK day. I sat in back of the room thinking ‘can’t you see this is a bad idea’…

    Hard to imagine how blacks could possibly become more hostile, but I’m sure they’ll show us in time.

    Shows like “Roots” have been replaced by torture porn of the Tarantino variety. Yes, things will get worse.

    As the article shows, the mass media will lead the way, along with the “educational” complex and corporate toadies.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  64. @Hypnotoad666

    Your last sentence is accurate but I can’t see the rationale for what precedes it.

    People are being brainwashed en masse. What are you expecting will reverse that?

    The brainwashing is intensifying, not abating. Whites are on schedule to be the first people in human history to actually welcome their own enslavement.

  65. Any Russians who read the Western press must do so with the same bemusement that we once felt when trying to make sense of Pravda. It is like entering a world that has lost touch with reality.

    One Russia-watcher told me that the point of articles in Pravda was not to give you news about the USSR, but to keep you informed about what the Communist Party was thinking. The NYT now appears to play a similar role. It proudly exhibits the diseases of the American political mind for the whole world to see.

    However, the saddest thing about this NYT piece is that its author was a Professor at Princeton. What an opportunity cost.

  66. @Not My Economy

    Thanks for the bracing, ugly truth. For a moment there I nearly missed the sarcasm.

  67. @Achmed E. Newman

    most people still have goodness in their hearts and aren’t spoiling for an argument or fight

    Exactly right – anyone who regularly interacts with humans, will reject the fucktarded Hobbesian masturbatory fantasy of bellum omnium contra omnes.

    It’s why voluntaryism is the pinnacle of human societal frameworks.

    Also, Hobbes was a broke-ass ugly incel midget… I have it on good authority that he was solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short, and the rest of Leviathan is just confirmation bias..

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @adreadline
    , @TTSSYF
    , @David
  68. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    Does anyone else here not give a shit about baseball but would prefer the Astros win just because we don’t like DC at all?

    • Replies: @Milesglorious
  69. ziggurat says:
    @Not My Economy

    Ha ha, Ahhh! You made me laugh and shutter at the same time.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  70. @Hail

    ‘how-much-is-the-great-awokening-spilling-over-into-real-life’

    Woke Nats’ fans booed the president tonight, chanting ‘lock him up,’ etc. Someone joked that the booing was expected since most of the fans are DC journos. But there are definitely a lot of permanent bureaucrats, ambitious social climbers from out of town, the multigenerational left-liberals who dominate Northwest DC, whose 250K Queen Annes in Cleveland Park now worth $2.5 million.

    The average “get in” price for the Nats’ WS games this year is $800. About the same as a ticket to ‘Hamilton,’ which makes a lot of sense.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Monsieur Psychosis
  71. Tends to depend on where you live. In large UK Commonwealth cities like London, Toronto and Melbourne for example, woke leftism is intensifying, but it isn’t a big issue if you live in a provincial area.

    The failure of woke leftism to penetrate the periphery can be seen in the fiscal problems of left-liberal news providers like CNN and Huffington Post. Outside of urban leftist enclaves, people would rather watch Fox News, a Commonwealth equivalent like Sky News Australia, or a politically incorrect pundit on You Tube.

  72. JimDandy says:

    If you ever get to feeling sorry for yourself, Steve, remember this: I envy you–you don’t have to venture far from your reason-chamber. Count your blessings.

  73. @Reg Cæsar

    [caution: Ilhan Omar and Tim Mynett nonsense verse from bad to worse – and as once was predicted for nuclear power, I’m too cheap to meter]

    Little Black & White Lies

    Hail fellow well met Mynett
    High Yellow, must not regret
    Tammy Wynette, stand by your man
    Timmy Mynett, stand by Ilhan
    No web? No net? No tangled hair weave?
    When first they practiced to conceive
    Without so much as [a] by your leave
    From wife so easy to deceive?

  74. Kronos says:
    @Desiderius

    White wine moms in particular.

  75. Hail says: • Website
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    The fans in the stadium were also at least 90% White,

    Which makes me wonder:

    Of the players on the team of US-White origin, what was (would be) the Trump-Hillary split in Nov. 2016? At or higher than the 61-39 Trump-Hillary national white vote split?

    So maybe these boo’ers are actually booing their own players by extension. Dumb.

  76. syonredux says:
    @Hail

    Calling people racist is a tad old-fashioned these days. After all, it’s a term that can, technically speaking, be applied to people who are racist against Whites. Sure, the WOKE can always use the “only-Whites-can-be-racist” saving throw, but that takes a bit of explaining. “White supremacist” neatly avoids those problems, hence its current popularity.

  77. Fun says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Black women have always been nasty to my wife and nice to me. This is not a new thing. A skinny one at Home Depot today apologized for giving me my $50 cash all in fives, leaned against my arm and called me darling. Good thing my wife wasn’t there.

    Honestly confused by this. How was she being nasty?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  78. Hail says: • Website
    @Kratoklastes

    Hobbes was a…midget

    How tall was Mr. Hobbes?

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  79. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:

    The Economist magazine is by far far more virulent, vicious and dangerous – in that its whole raison d’etre seems to be the complete abolition of all and any immigration controls, whatsoever, from white, (and only white), nations.

    The trouble with The Economist is that the microcephales who by and large comprise the white political class take the odiferous flatulence emitted by The Economist as a modern day Delphic Oracle.

  80. Kronos says:
    @Monsieur Psychosis

    Still one of the best political commercials I’ve ever seen.

    Not as entertaining as presidential candidate Bob Dole discussing erectile dysfunction, but more economically sobering.

    Anyway…

    I think they’ll see the cultural craziness as a entertaining distraction and merely a symptom of severe economic maladies. That elite institutions wouldn’t need to press the cultural stuff if the economic realities weren’t so bad.

  81. @J.Ross

    I also really like ‘I Have Scinde’.

    But then I would.

  82. ziggurat says:

    I live in the midwest and I think that racial relations are fine here.

    We had a new black woman elected to our city council, who explained the economic gap between whites and blacks in the area as a skills gap. I know the lady and she is a very nice lady.

    A black guy help me change my tire recently. Everyone gets along well with the Indian people at work. There’s a new Jewish local grocery that’s well-liked in the community. Everything seems OK.

    But I do worry about confirmation bias. I mean, if people (whether white or non-white) are consuming all this online, sensationalist media, then whenever they do have a bad interaction, how likely will they interpret it to racism?

    People can be unpleasant, because they’re having a bad day, or they’re just jerks. Some people have conflicting personalities, etc. Yet, if people are believing that anti-white bias is everywhere or anti-black bias is everywhere (or any other bias), then I think they may see bigotry where it doesn’t exist. This could become a self-fulfilling viewpoint.

    I heard a story about a black lady, who had a flat tire and was needing help. A white man stopped to help, who stepped out of a pickup truck with a confederate flag on the back. She was surprised about what a gentleman he was. He just helped her get back on the road and then drove away. She tweeted that her worldview changed from that experience. The only way she could reconcile is that he must not realize how unpleasant that symbol is to black Americans.

    As the media/academia/Democrats/DiversityInc/etc tries to stir us up more, I think everyone needs to resolve even more to treat each other in a kindly, friendly, respectful matter.

    You do have to be careful when it comes to helping people though. I have a cousin that is teaching a man to read again. The man was helping to change a lady’s tire and got hit over the head with a blunt object, which led to serious brain damage. He said I’m not doing that again.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Desiderius
    , @bomag
  83. AKAHorace says:
    @Kronos

    I know a number of “woke” people who are remarkably sane and realist in their actual dealings with the people around them. They frequently give each other advice that contradicts their declared beliefs. I am not sure if they are a representative sample though.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  84. @MBlanc46

    I couldn’t tell if Mr. Archlight’s sessions about homelessness were part of a volunteer deal or not. As Mr. Automata’s reply says, it’s difficult to do or say much at the workplace, especially when it can be taken as personal. In that lecture setting where all just sat there “stonefaced”, I’m pretty sure I’d have blurted something out like “hey, nobody seems to give a shit here, can we move on, man?” You’ll be surprised how much backing you may get.

    For a volunteer gig, you don’t have to take too much of the PC crap. Do they fire volunteers? I have a funny story about that one, too.

  85. Anon[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @blackbodies

    Don’t sabotage anything. That’s a federal crime, the CFAA. And surely you use revision control, so they can discover and document what you did.

    And I second the advice not to burn bridges. I don’t even think it’s a good idea to bad mouth former employers in private, other than to a very, very close friend. The employer aside, it doesn’t reflect well on the character of the bad-mouther.

    • Replies: @Bill P
  86. El Dato says:

    Powerful forces, possibly in league with Senator Palputin, be fought back they must!

  87. @Hail

    I just wouldn’t ever come back were I subject to this. Really, is it worth the ticket price and the expensive hot dogs to watch Communist Kickball? I would be bummed if they did this in minor league baseball – boos would be in order, and it’d be worth walking out.

    If you think that’s bad, try watching zookeepers feed the seals and sea lions, while some loudmouthed broad keeps lecturing you about not putting plastic bags in the river – THE WHOLE TIME! Someone told me it’s all happening at the zoo

  88. Jesse says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    What is it with the Great Awokening and doing white men? Just anecdotally, the percentage of the colored Woke who are either having relations with white men or really, really want to is much higher than the population at large.

  89. @J.Ross

    I’m partial to “Malcom X-Lax”.

  90. @alt right moderate

    There was an Englishman living in Australia who was pointing out that in Australia, Murdoch media channels were the most left-wing.

    • Replies: @anon
  91. @Desiderius

    It’s not a good point. Blacks are over 80% of the NFL and over 90% of the NBA. Whatever time and money is spent on youth sports doesn’t matter.

    The only “point” to that negro’s tweet is that even one white superstar athlete is unacceptable and offensive to him. Because he hates white people.

    • Agree: bomag
  92. dfordoom says: • Website
    @22pp22

    Diverse societies don’t work. They never will. I am afraid the Sailerite concept of citizenship is a non-starter.

    I think they can work.

    What we’re seeing in the West, and particularly in the United States, is a deliberate campaign to stoke racial hatreds (and to create hostility between men and women) with the objective of creating a docile, cowed, alienated society to further the interests of the mega-corporations and the elites.

    If a diverse society can’t work then the US is doomed. Your chances of undiversifying the US are zero.

    • Replies: @22pp22
    , @bomag
  93. Kronos says:
    @AKAHorace

    They do exist. I often consider them the “Harry Flashman” members of wokeness at worst. I prefer Charles Murray’s example of people who talk 1960s but live 1950s. Either they’ll be the cool headed moderates of the movement or the “Grand Inquisitors” who lack genuine faith. They follow the roads to power, which are especially few for the young. Many women don’t really give a damn about feminism. They’re man junkies and don’t want to become a lawnmower in a lesbian corporate convent. But there’s money to be had and social networks to build. Sometimes it’s just easier to just say and do things that make mom and dad happy. Especially, if your born in San Francisco or “The People’s Republic“ of Austin.

    My guess is the kids will cool down once economic/social independence is further achieved.

  94. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Of course, that veil wearing hypocrite would be literally stoned to death for that type of behavior in her homeland under the faith she makes such a big show of professing….

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  95. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Nats fans actually booed President Obama’s pathetic attempt at a first pitch back in 2010. It was a regular season game and the Nats were really bad that year, so tickets were probably dirt cheap. So it looks like journos and other shitlibs are more willing to shell out $800.

    Here’s Barry’s pitch in all its uncoordinated glory:

  96. El Dato says:
    @blackbodies

    “deleting, mangling, rendering as useless all of the computer programs I have created, etc)”

    DO NOT DO THAT.

    This is not only breach of contract but a crime and prosecutors with attitude and infinite money will WHALE on you.

  97. El Dato says:
    @Jesse

    It is like living a sadomasochistic fantasy?

  98. @Desiderius

    ESPN has backed off wokeness. I’ve been following baseball more this year than in the past, but I never get much iSteve material from ESPN.com.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  99. Bill P says:
    @Anon

    Slave mentality.

    • Agree: Autochthon
  100. Surely they won’t kill all the white folks or keep only a few in the zoos; they’ll need a few feral ones to whom they can still assign blame for all their problems once the majority of us have been swept away.

    • LOL: jim jones
  101. I was at a collaborative workshop for my job and was stunned to hear a POC woman in my group casually talk about my privilege like it’s a normal, socially acceptable conversation topic.

    There’s also the usual stuff about “too many White men in this ad campaign… Can you find a photo without so many White dudes”, but that usually comes from other Whites (women).

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @silviosilver
  102. Steve, you should probably check out the terrible Watchmen reboot. Rorschach’s followers are wignat fedposters opposed by a black kween cop who’s some sort of ninja warrior.

    It starts off with a Very Special Alternative History retelling of the Tulsa Race Riots with Evil Whites gunning down innocent Black Baby Bodies when the reality is a bit more nuanced and doesn’t mention the fact 10 whites got gunned down at the court house by blacks.

    Lo and behold you’ve got all the media organs repeating the Fable of Tulsa. Building towards another Dallas BLM I think.

  103. eah says:

    There’s also desperation on the author’s part, however. Maybe she thinks the anti-white coalition among non-whites is unraveling, and she’s starting to panic.

    Or maybe she wrote what the NYT wanted (what goes on behind the scenes for an editorial contribution like this?): they contacted her because they knew she would oblige, in tone and content — or maybe she wrote what she knew they would publish — anyway, you may want to consider the role of the NYT as publisher.

    How Much Is the Great Awokening Spilling Over Into Real Life?

    What exactly is the “Great Awokening”?

    Is Katie Hill who used to be in Congress a sign of it? — AOC? — idiots people like that are now making laws you know — the general campaign for open borders? — removal of statues and other works of art in NOLA and elsewhere? — the judicial railroading of the ‘Proud Boys’ and RAM members for engaging in self-defense? — the Establishment lies about what happened at Charlottesville and the ongoing judicial persecution of the organizers? — de jure discrimination against Whites and Asians affirmative action in admissions at universities across the country? — Jew and minority led Congressional hearings on ‘white supremacy’? — normalized violence by ‘antifa’, including against people who attend Trump rallies? — the jury ‘Congressional nullification’ of Trump’s presidency? — drag queen story hour? — what is it? — is all of that ‘real life’ enough for you? — and I could go on.

    Personally, I don’t venture out of my office/closet much these days

    “LOL” — ‘man bites dog’.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @eah
  104. eah says:

    Speaking of ‘woke’ and the NYT, the first episode of the new HBO series ‘Watchmen’, by the Jew Damon Lindelof, features a ‘woke’ retelling of the 1921 Tulsa race violence — so watch for the Emmett Till-ing of that event in the NYT.

  105. @Jesse

    White men mating with women of color demonstrates the man’s commitment to the Great Awokening. What better way to demonstrate your commitment to racial equality (equity?) than mating down?

    You are right about the women’s side. Women of color mating with white men unfortunately looks a lot like hypergamy and tends to undermine “The Narrative”. Best not to notice.

    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
    , @AndrewR
  106. iffen says:

    It’s almost as if instead of being in the age of the Roman Empire in decline, we are entering into the Stalinist age in Russia.

    • Replies: @Jimbo
    , @Ragno
  107. @Kratoklastes

    Exactly right – anyone who regularly interacts with humans, will reject the fucktarded Hobbesian masturbatory fantasy of bellum omnium contra omnes.

    Have you interacted with humans all over the world to reach that conclusion? From Wall Street businessmen, going through Mexican proles, Chinese peasants and Indian slum-dwellers, all the way to Khoisan hunter-gatherers? Or was your interaction with humans so far mostly restricted to well-fed middle-class white Americans?

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  108. eah says:

    Anyone up for ‘Eat a Bug Family Arts Day’?

  109. anon[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @Redneck farmer

    That’s true.
    Murdoch’s papers are now pushing an Aboriginal ”Voice” that will advise Parliament and oversee Legislation.
    Aborigines have an average IQ of about 60 and 16% of them are Sociopaths.

  110. @The Last Real Calvinist

    “because a tournament costs $1000.” Per player? I don’t think so. In AAU basketball the team would find sponsors for those who can’t afford. I suspect not many USA blacks play baseball because, as my sons learned real early on, it is a really boring sport.

  111. NickG says:
    @22pp22

    Diverse societies don’t work.

    Not quite. For example Singapore is diverse and works pretty well; but it is highly structured and authoritarian.

    No its diversity or liberal democracy…pick one?

    You can’t have both and a functioning society.

    • Replies: @22pp22
    , @dfordoom
  112. TTSSYF says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Why so much anger toward Hobbes? Is it not enough merely to disagree with him? Not that I necessarily do. Maybe it’s you who needs to back out of your micro-view of human interactions and see how humans have acted thoughout all of our existence on the macro level. You’re likely just caught up in the small eddies and backwash that occur with the tsunami of human life.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  113. @Fun

    Black women have always been nasty to my wife and nice to me.

  114. @Steve in Greensboro

    If you want to see with your own lying eyes in Technicolor what “White men mating with women of color” looks like, look no further than the end of the Gavin McInnes video that is embedded in The Derb’s latest Unz Review posting right here:

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/proud-boys-persecution-four-years-for-fighting-back/

  115. 22pp22 says:
    @NickG

    Singapore is 80% Chinese. That’s why it had to leave the Malay Federation.

    Switzerland is also lauded as a diverse society that works. They have four official languages, but in reality nearly eighty percent speak their version of German. One percent speak Italian, and Romansh is in danger of dying out.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @nebulafox
  116. 22pp22 says:
    @dfordoom

    The Balkans and the Caucasus are the endgame of diversity. There will always be an Elizabeth Warren or a Kamala Harris using racial hatred as a means to attain power. The US was 90% white not so long ago and an example to the world of dynamism and efficiency. I don’t see how this new monstrosity can hold together.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  117. As a person living in a woke city, blacks have learned the self pity victimhood scripts.

  118. @Steve Sailer

    ESPN rebranded its 6 PM Sportscenter as SC6 and had Jemele Hill and Michael Smith host it. It was quickly dismissed as Black Sportscenter. The experiment lasted a little over a year and Hill being unable to behave on Twitter gave ESPN the figleaf needed to end the program.

    Ironically one of the new Sportscenter anchors is Sage Steele, who is also black but is more “conventionally attractive” than Hill is.

    The most memorable part of SC6 was when they changed their opening to one that was an homage to A Different World.

  119. Jimbo says:
    @Anonymous

    Gotta agree. I work at a startup in Boston, so a lot of recent college grads (no blacks, of course). We use slack for messaging, and I have noticed some of them putting their pronouns after their names on their accounts. But since I go out of my way to avoid political discussions IRL, they are overall pleasant people to get along with. But then I go home to my suburban home after work, so I don’t really do any socializing with them in any non-work context.

  120. Jimbo says:
    @iffen

    “Entering”? We’ve been there for quite awhile…

  121. @Jim bob Lassiter

    Correction– not the end, but around the 00:00:50 mark

  122. George says:

    “How Much Is the Great Awokening Spilling Over Into Real Life?”

    If you are looking to be an auto mechanic none, if you are looking to be a school teacher a lot.

    Judges 12:6 is a possible bible reference, but I might be pushing it, but tossing bible quotes into a secular debate is great fun. Any other bible references for ‘wokeness’? I am guessing parts dealing with loyalty oaths and other parts false gods.

    they said, “All right, say ‘Shibboleth.’” If he said, “Sibboleth,” because he could not pronounce the word correctly, they seized him and killed him at the fords of the Jordan.

    https://biblehub.com/judges/12-6.htm

    Wokeness Added As New Fruit Of The Spirit
    https://babylonbee.com/news/wokeness-added-as-new-fruit-of-the-spirit/

    But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.— Galatians 5:22–23

  123. slumber_j says:
    @Laurence Whelk

    That’s pretty much my MO too here in Manhattan: courteous distance is the answer to almost all human interaction. Sometimes I try to make ’em laugh, but that’s pretty much the limit of what I’m gonna get up to with anyone but my closest friends.

    And yes, European-flavored civilization is very much on its way out.

  124. anon[213] • Disclaimer says:

    Haven’t blacks been pretty open about practicing identity politics since the OJ trial. That was when they sort of came out regarding it? The only new thing is that identity politics is ubiquitous. Except white males, but they elected Trump. Now there’s some identity backlash for you.

    Blacks seem to want a more casual enforcement of law and order, and seem to have it. They actually seem bewildered, with lots of activism regarding gun violence and at the same time, reducing use of prison. Lot of cognitive dissonance there. But other than the gang killings, things don’t seem much different.

    The Who/whom of it will never make it to a courtroom. Nothing important is ever openly discussed. The big change is that whites used too root for blacks to have better outcomes as a group. I don’t know anyone who believes that pouring money into education will make much difference.

    As far as changes, I chatted with an off duty deputy moonlighting in an Apple Store. Everything was very relaxed and all, but WTF?

  125. @Al Bundy

    That’s not so true down south, though- at least outside of some elite college towns like Durham/Dook U. A typical southern peach doesn’t want a soyboy.

    Life up north is a grind anyway, so if there’s more misery to add then it will appear there.

  126. Danindc says:
    @Ron Mexico

    It’s hard too. Takes determined practice

  127. Ian Smith says:
    @newrouter

    It could be that the high IQ people from around France move to Paris. High IQ people are attracted to big cities for jobs, access to culture and stimulation, and so on.

  128. Ian Smith says:

    Somewhat OT: Gay Latinx stabs black he claims harassed him. Who is the real victim:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/a6ab763b-7a5c-4487-a20b-9966f43f3e73

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  129. dfordoom says: • Website
    @NickG

    Diverse societies don’t work.

    Not quite. For example Singapore is diverse and works pretty well; but it is highly structured and authoritarian.

    No its diversity or liberal democracy…pick one?

    You can’t have both and a functioning society.

    Maybe it’s liberal democracies that just don’t work. Maybe liberal democracy is like libertarianism – it only works in theory.

  130. bomag says:
    @Jesse

    Most every interracial couple I’ve been around had some kind of racial hang-up.

    I suppose we could call it the “Tiny Duck spectrum.”

  131. dfordoom says: • Website
    @22pp22

    The Balkans and the Caucasus are the endgame of diversity. There will always be an Elizabeth Warren or a Kamala Harris using racial hatred as a means to attain power. The US was 90% white not so long ago and an example to the world of dynamism and efficiency. I don’t see how this new monstrosity can hold together.

    So what exactly is your solution?

    • Replies: @22pp22
  132. My [AGREE]s with a few commenters might seem contradictory with my first comment, but I’d though Mr. Sailer just wanted an “on the streets” report. The big-corporate world is a whole ‘nother thing. I am thankful to be in a job in which this is not much of a problem, but I get to see some of this crap. (I wish I could be more specific.)

    Though people try to get along and not bring up the “wokeness” business till the going gets rough (say “dissed” by the cashier at the grocery), no, Diversity has gone too far already. We may continue to get along while economic times are seem good, but when things get much rougher, as they will, no, “we can’t just all get along.”

    My comment above was just from a guy with “boots on the ground, reaching for the stars”, to quote imaginary CNN-based Kasey Kasem.

  133. In general I would say that if the mass media and government schools are socializing everyone yo believe something, you can count on the sheeple believing it. We’ve already seen how rapidly a media blitz can browbeat most of society into accepting something totally insane and antisocial, like transgenderism. You think they can’t socialize blacks and browns to be even more resentful than they already are? Or abuse white children until they are more docile and helpless than they already are?

  134. @LaserBaker

    I was at a collaborative workshop for my job and was stunned to hear a POC woman in my group casually talk about my privilege like it’s a normal, socially acceptable conversation topic.

    It’s a real jolt to hear this stuff spouted in real life, as though it were simply referring to a well-established feature of reality (which in their minds, it is). Thankfully, it’s only happened a few times that I can recall. My guess is that most people, despite keeping quiet, don’t take any of it too seriously.

  135. Anon[362] • Disclaimer says:

    “social justice vs. actual justice”

    About 30 years ago someone writing in the American Spectator said that the function of “social” is to negate what follows: social science = not science, social work = not work, etc.

  136. The narrative is of eternal/universal nature of white persecutor/non-white victim is the KKKrazy Glue of the metropolitan coalition!

  137. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:
    @ziggurat

    Individuals aren’t groups and personal isn’t public. You can personally like individuals of group X while disliking the collective actions of X. There is no hypocrisy here, except possibly to children.

    The reverse is also true: You can personally dislike members of group X while liking X as a group. This is the basis of much of foreign policy for example, and international alliances for one thing would be impossible without it.

    Once again, personal and public relationships are separate things, and only children or childlike adults are unable to separate the two.

  138. bomag says:
    @dfordoom

    If a diverse society can’t work then the US is doomed

    I’ll note that diverse societies can work, just not as well; and they are more prone to extreme politics.

  139. @blackbodies

    I intend to screw my company over as much as possible when I depart (deleting, mangling, rendering as useless all of the computer programs I have created,

    Very good idea.

    We need to stop feeding the beast. If you work for a woke company, you need to stop supporting them. There are so many non criminal ways that severely screw over a department, such as what you mentioned. Even just grabbing a piece of paper or bill from a colleagues desk and putting it in the shredder (LOL).

    These companies hate us, but survive only because of us (competent white men). Time to start sticking some sand into their gears. If every white man did this companies could lose millions.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  140. @blackbodies

    Success is the best revenge.

    Don’t go to bed angry.

  141. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/10/27/mass-shooting-at-texas-am-commerce-homecoming-party-in-greenville-according-to-reports/

    A very model of modern journalism. Read slowly from the top to determine the race of the shooter. Look for clues.

    • Replies: @newrouter
  142. Hail says: • Website
    @eah

    What exactly is the “Great Awokening”?

    Is Katie Hill who used to be in Congress a sign of it?

    I would say so.

    See the Life Arc of Katie Hill: A Southern California (Los Angeles County) Tragicomedy.

    In other times/places she’d have been a normal, productive person. Hill was an early adopter ofthe Great Awokening, whatever it is; was well positioned to rise within it.

  143. Barnard says:
    @Desiderius

    You would think high talent players would still have the option of going through public Little League teams and high school teams to get noticed by scouts. Even travel teams are highly competitive, if a team had access to a kid who was a great pitcher, but his family couldn’t afford it, I would think in most cases the association would find a way to get him on the team. Isn’t the bigger reason black abandonment of the sport? Those kids are interested in other things now.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  144. bomag says:
    @Laurence Whelk

    I’m no anthropologist, but I do have the impression that Euro-dominated civilization is going down the tubes, whether it’s 50 years or 500. I’m just trying to take care of myself, those around me and my sphere of concern. I don’t see in the White people I know or come in contact with any real potential for reversal of this.

    Tend to agree; and we’re almost to the point where we have to think about ways to preserve our current civilizational knowledge for any future re-boot, a la Foundation or A Canticle For Leibowitz.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  145. David says:
    @Kratoklastes

    After graduating form Oxford in his late teens, Hobbes spent most of his life as a client of the Cavendishes, Earls of Deveonshire. The years of the civil war he spent mostly in Paris. In his dedication to his (second rate) translation of Thucydides, he commends his dead lord and says his years (up to that point — there were more to come) in the Cavendish library and family were his happiest. No reason to doubt him. After the restoration, he became a favorite of Charles II, often in his company. Throughout his very long life, he interacted with people at the highest reaches of the social and intellectual world of his time.

    So he wasn’t poor or solitary. I don’t know about his appearance.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  146. @alt right moderate

    Solution to that?

    Bring in hundreds of thousands of immigrants per year and pave over the provincial areas to make way for an ever expanding woke GTA (Greater Toronto Area).

    Bonus: they all vote liberal too.

  147. @ziggurat

    This. We have confident, multi-generational Whites so the Blacks are great. They want in on the good life.

  148. Mr. Anon says:
    @22pp22

    More than that speak Italian. The language breakdown in Switzerland is about 70%/ 20% / 10% German (Swiss-German) / French / Italian. Interestingly, about the same proportions in which the country is drained by the Rhine, the Rhone, and the Ticino respectively.

    Switzerland works because 1.) It is wealthy and the Swiss know they have it pretty good, and 2.) The different ethnic groups have a large degree of autonomy; the federal government is not too powerful.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  149. What is it with the Great Awokening and doing white men? Just anecdotally, the percentage of the colored Woke who are either having relations with white men or really, really want to is much higher than the population at large.

    Don’t confuse Somali, Ethiopian, and Eritrean women with the West African types Americans are familiar with. They are vastly different.

    They are much more open to exogamy, for one thing. Look at well-known Somali women. (Are there any well-known Somali men?) Iman and Ayaan Hirsi Ali married Brits, and Waris Dirie had a child with a black American, but now lives in Gdansk, of all places, with Austrian citizenship. I wonder who’s kissing her now.

    Somali women are like the French and Italian women of generations past. They enjoy and employ their femininity, and are far from the doormats seen in the rest of Islam. Whether they can be trusted, well…

  150. @XYZ (no Mr.)

    For the Bay Area: churches, corporate workplace, friends, dating. Woke culture permeates many churches of all types, including Evangelical Protestant and Catholic.

    This has been true at least since Jim Jones and the People’s Temple. Jones has been retconned as an evangelical, charismatic Christian preacher, but in reality he was a vehement atheist and Marxist, hostile to Christianity in particular. He was passing out bibles for use as toilet paper by the end. Not coincidently, Jones was thick with the Democrat establishment, especially Willie Brown and the sanctified Harvey Milk.

    And of course 70% of People’s Temple members were black ( 40% at least were black women) and ate up Jones’ message that America was irredeemably racist and oppressive. In isolation in Guyana he convinced these saps that America was setting up concentration camps for black people ( sound familiar?), one of the ways he was able to persuade them all to drink the Flavor-aid. The ones he didn’t convince he murdered, not to mention the 300+ children among the 900+ who died at Jonestown.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  151. @ScarletNumber

    The most memorable part of SC6 was when they changed their opening to one that was an homage to A Different World.

    …gave ESPN the figleaf needed to end the program.

    [They] had been livin’ in a different world
    Then [they were] nutted by reality

    –Nick Lowe

  152. Mike1 says:

    This is a fascinating comment section and a very good question. There have been a lot of hints that people commenting are lower middle class and below but the fact that people are not seeing wokeness in every day life is literally hard to get my head around.

    Recent examples in my life:

    – Telling a new born baby: “You’re not going to grow up to be one of those bad whites, are you?”
    – Getting spat on by a close relative for a factual, easily proved opinion.
    – Being told “shut up” by someone I didn’t know after being randomly asked a question and replying (she was at work at a cultural institution and I was a customer).

    If you are upper middle class or above wokeness is all consuming. All day, every day.

    • Replies: @Dave
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  153. @ziggurat

    You made me laugh and shutter at the same time.

    You took a screenshot?

  154. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    That jives with all that I’ve read and remember about this, GoBM.

    Peak Stupidity did a 4-part 40-year ~ anniversary remembrance of Jim Jones and Jonestown, Guyana. Yes, the guy was a flat-out Communist. In fact, after the massacre/suicide, there was talk of sending some remaining money, in the 100’s of thousands of bucks, to the Soviet Union. The community in the jungle struggled, even after taking in all of these old people’s Social Security checks for income.

    To me, one cool story on the whole thing was Congressman Leo Ryan’s mission down to Guyana to check out the claims of abuse by kinfolk who’s people down there wanted to get the hell out. In “They (still) shoot congressmen, don’t they?”, there’s the story of the congressman with quite a bit of integrity – though a left-wing Democrat, he actually “walked the walk” on the issues he pushed.

    See “Drinking the Commie Kool-Aid – 40 Years Back:” – – Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, and Part 4.

    I Part 4, I particularly discussed the TV coverage, a bit of which is on youtube, that NEVER mentioned that the guy was a dirty stinking Commie – Fake News, 1978 edition.

  155. Bill says:
    @Anonymous

    Interactions among whites are pretty different. Telling “racist” jokes or commenting accurately about race relations is far less common and far less safe than it was even 30 years ago, let alone 50 years ago.

  156. @The Last Real Calvinist

    My favorite World Series woke moment was a brief segment on the Space Station.

    Two American women and a man astronaut were shown, the woman did all the talking and she explained she planned to be the first woman on the moon (and the guy would be there too).

    Yeah, right.

    Do they have body bags on the Moon?

  157. A1 says:
    @Laurence Whelk

    I agree with you and your behaviour. I avoid any political discussion with random people I encounter as it is not my role in life to educate a waitress or a store clerk. It becomes hard when you ask for a bag at a store and get a lecture on global warming.

    You are 100% correct in dealing with women. When I run into neighbour women I always ask about the husbands, kids, and dog. I never ever hug anyone as I don’t want to be the creepy old guy trying to cop a feel. The down side is I am considered cold and aloof, but we have a couple of neighbours who hate each other over some distant inappropriate touchy feely one Halloween. If I chat with service staff somewhere I tend to chat with male staff, again as I don’t want to be the creepy old guy leering at a young women.

    Fortunately I work in a male oriented industry and most of the people I deal with professionally are similar in views to me.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  158. nebulafox says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Singapore isn’t as liberal as Hong Kong, so there’s a rather different dynamic at work. People are more used to not discussing politics or only giving banal opinions about it, so nothing much has changed on the surface. Everybody gets along OK.

    But there is a strong underlying tension between the PRC immigrants and the natives, particularly those that aren’t Chinese and/or working-class. There’s no small amount of irony there, since a big part of why Singapore is what it is revolves around the legacy of the nasty racial tensions that exploded into communal violence in the 1960s. When I was in Hong Kong, I didn’t get the sense that this particular tension was anywhere near as acute. Whether that is due to racial demographics or just being part of the PRC, I don’t know.

    >Since I don’t live in the USA, and haven’t for a long time, I can’t speak to much day-to-day experience of growing wokeness there.

    I’d echo others here and say that the wokesters aren’t getting as far as they’d like with the man on the street, even on their own side: most people remain blessedly sane, regardless of race or political views. Working in tech, I unavoidably come across lefties regularly (let alone immigrants), and I can count the ones that voiced views akin to what you see in the NYT these days on one hand. I rather doubt it was wholly self-censorship, as many of them are tech geeks with not much of a filter.

    Same goes for the ones in my family. Rather, like their right-wing counterparts, they don’t think politics should trump relationships with kin and friends, because they are normal human beings and aren’t going to sever ties because some pinhead journalist demands they do. What is disturbing is how much corporate America has aligned themselves with them. I don’t think it is so much out of ideological belief, or even a conscious desire to create the social atomization that is in their political interest, so much as it is to avoid trouble and take the path of least resistance.

    I think the same dynamic was at work with Hillary Clinton, and ultimately, that explains why many voters who openly didn’t believe Donald Trump was qualified to be President nonetheless voted for him. Few actually thought Hillary Clinton was an SJW or believed much of the nonsense, but nobody also doubted that, as the epitome of mainstream DC orthodoxy stretching back to the 1990s, she wouldn’t ever stand up for their rights if put under pressure by them.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @dfordoom
  159. @Jesse

    This does seem to be true. AOC has a very pale male partner, for example.

    And remember when Steve was on his Sarah Jeong kick? When Ms. Jeong was at her most anti-white she was dating an alt-right white guy, and was invoked with a publication associated with Gavin McInnes.

    One time I discussed with some prominent Native American feminist leaders why they wound up with white men. They said some prominent Native American men were rather threatening to them, while the white guys were supportive of their cause.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Sean
  160. @The Last Real Calvinist

    He posted that during a game in which the Nationals starting pitcher (Joe Ross) was black.

  161. @nebulafox

    Corporate America thought there was big money in it (a fool and his money…) and parts of it still do. Gamergate turned out to be VC’s bullying game execs/devs into making woke games (specifically to create the impression that classic archetypes, such as the masculine/straight male hero, were passé) and it looks like a similar dynamic was in play on other cultural fronts.

    The situation is still fluid, but as with the Star Wars pics it’s been anything but a rout.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  162. Any time a “woke” white talks to be about race (and most of them love to talk about race), I casually ask them where they live, as it is common to talk about neighborhoods, homebuying, schools, etc. Then I narrow it down to their zip code, break out my smart phone and pull up the demographics for their neighborhood. It is almost always less than 5 percent black, usually under 3.5 percent. I then demand to know why they do not live around blacks or more “diversity” (some will claim the Asian amount satisfies that tripe). I make it clear that diversity, like the democratic party, is about BLACKEDNESS. Being around, living around, working around and interacting with blacks is all that matters, and I make sure that they know I hold them to that standard. They usually end the conversation awkwardly.

    This and other tactics should constantly be used around SJW whites.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  163. @adreadline

    In my time, I’ve lived in pretty close proximity to Australian aboriginals (both highly-traditional, and urbanised), French rural peasants (‘peasant’ here is not a pejorative), urban French, and Anglos that pretty much run the Anglo gamut (rural and urban, from organised criminals, trailer-park dwellers, through to academic economists, fund managers and lawyers).

    And although very short term interactions are only anecdotes, I also spent a month in a French detention centre – where I got to wile [sic] away the days with people from former French colonies in North Africa (Cameroon, Cote d’Ivoire, Senegal, Cap Verde, Morocco, Algeria). In that type of situation, you get a lot of close interaction.

    I’ve also spent a bit of time on the ground in Afghanistan and Angola – again, only for short periods, and with not-much interaction with the locals.

    Don’t mistake me for some wet-brained sappy Kum-bay-yah type: I’m a misanthrope, and I would rather pick my toenails than hang out with ‘middle class’ Americans, since Americans generally think class has to do with how much shit you can buy, as opposed to a set of values. I don’t hang out with middle-class Australians, either – the only group I despise more than soi-disant urban sophisticates, is the political-bureaucratic class.

    And that’s where Hobbes screwed the pooch; he figured that Leviathan was a stable equilibrium – that the right class of rulers would always exist, and that they would check their ambitions at the door and govern well.

    Bear in mind, he was writing well after it was common knowledge that the Papacy was a corrupt set of fuckbags. Like 200 years after.

    So he wasn’t very good at connecting dots: if he had been, he would have realised that if societies create a set of institutions that have significant social power, it ought to be expected that those institutions will be captured by corrupt fuckbags.

    Corrupt fuckbags without State apparatus can do local damage on limited scales, and it is not remotely contentious to say that resistance against private fuckbaggery is morally legitimate.

    But when corrupt fuckbags take control of a government … resistance is no longer viewed as inherently legitimate, despite the supposed rationale for government being axiomatically false.

  164. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:

    “Prestigious racists” deserves incorporation to the glossary/FAQ/chrestomathy…

  165. nebulafox says:
    @22pp22

    >Singapore is 80% Chinese. That’s why it had to leave the Malay Federation.

    It’s not quite 80%, but it is a definitively Chinese town, even though it was founded by Malays. (Ironically enough, Kuala Lumpur is the opposite: founded by Chinese, now a (barely) majority Malay city.) As I mentioned above, part of the reason Singapore isn’t a democracy is specifically to prevent the Chinese majority from using their numerical weight to always get their way. In the 1960s, people worried that if that happened, the Malays and Indians would feel backed into a corner and things would get explosive.

    The tacit deal at work with the Malays and Indians is that they get to manage their own cultural/religious affairs without interference (within reason: Islam and Hinduism in Singapore are highly sanitized-ironically, Christianity is not) and will be treated fairly and relatively meritocratically (infinitely moreso than non-Malays get in Malaysia) if they accept tacit Chinese social dominance and toe the agreed upon multicultural line. Housing estates have ethnic quotas they are forced to fulfill to prevent any ethnic ghettos from forming, and anything smacking of ethno-nationalism is not subtly discouraged. Singapore’s mass social engineering of its populace to accept a pan-Singaporean identity was by any measure a stupendous success: Singaporean Chinese, Malays, and Indians feels like they have a lot more in common with each other-and unlike Americans, they are secure enough to take good natured ethnic jokes and stereotypes in stride-than their co-ethnics in mainland China, Malaysia/Indonesia, and India.

    But as I’ve also mentioned, the ethnic harmony project is now really being put to the test with immigrants from the PRC who have not been subject to any of the coaching and hectoring that Singapore’s Chinese have been. This involves mundane things like spitting, littering and line jumping that LKY fined and caned Singaporean Chinese out of over the course of decades, but more significantly, the fact that they are not used to living next to non-Han, unlike the diaspora. I think everything is going to be fine, long-term, because for all people complain and grumble, Singapore is still a clean, safe, well-educated, secure place to live. But that doesn’t change the fact that Singapore is now being ruled by a generation that doesn’t remember the bad old days as much, and that’s beginning to show in less careful policy all over the board.

  166. nebulafox says:
    @Desiderius

    Since the Stupid Party still religiously believes its own BS on the brilliant long-term thinking that CEOs can have for national interests, I don’t expect any push-back from the mainstream right anytime soon… which means here, among many other issues, alienated Republican voters will continue listening to decidedly non-mainstream right-wing sources and compulsively back anyone willing to challenge GOP orthodoxy.

    I suppose that sums up why iSteve’s web traffic has exploded.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  167. @TTSSYF

    If you read Leviathan (which almost nobody ever does), you ought to be immediately struck by the naivete Hobbes exhibits. He’s got the world-view of a Methodist spinster.

    His and Rousseau’s schtick belong in the same bucket; it is predicated on there being somebody who is legitimately entitled to kill you if you disobey. Fuck that, unless it’s me.

    Hobbes’ stuff gets shoe-horned into the “Social Contract” theory, and although that’s a stretch, Hobbes’ view has one thing in common with all shit in that cesspool… i.e., nobody’s envisaging any ‘contract’ worth the name

    Like Rousseau (and everyone else in that space) Hobbes’ view of the relationship between ruler and ruled is not synallagmatic, except through some absurd bullshit that amounts to “whatever the ruler gives the ruled, is valid as the consideration for the ruled giving up sovereignty”. So it’s only called a contract because that’s a rhetorically-useful word… in the same way that governments call their retirement Ponzi schemes, ‘insurance’ or ‘social security’, as if they’re a fund that generates flow to retirees from their lifetime contributions.

    Like Malthus, Hobbes had abundant evidence that ran counter to his central thesis, and pre-dated his work by centuries. In Hobbe’s case, it was evidence that institutions of political power are vulnerable to capture by corrupt fuckbags (e.g., the Borgia papacy).

    And 400 years later, institutions of political power are still blathering about a ‘contract’ that supposedly binds us as thralls – that they can breach at whim; change the terms at whim; and is not subject to the exceptio non adimplenti contractus.

    People have understood for millennia that it is dumb as fuck to continue to treat with a group who consistently violates their word: frangenti fidem, fidem frangatur iedem is exhortative and wasn’t just pulled out of the arse of some guy.

    Governments do more harm than good.

    the increased share of government control over Western economies was correlated with rapid technological change from the late 1800s onwards. This has led dummies who don’t understand spurious correlation to attribute rising living standards to the existence of government.

    In fact the causality is exactly reversed: rising living standards – generated and funded entirely by the private sector – generates prosperity, which lowers the marginal utility of money, which generates a larger pool of ‘excess; production that the corrupt fuckbags of Leviathan can then skim.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @bomag
    , @dfordoom
  168. @nebulafox

    Be that as it may, the green eyeshades want results and the results of going woke have been mixed at best, whereas before it was assumed it was the wave of the future and thus bound to be profitable.

    The cynical worm is turning.

  169. “His and Rousseau’s schtick belong in the same bucket; it is predicated on there being somebody who is legitimately entitled to kill you if you disobey. Fuck that, unless it’s me.”

    Beto O’Rourke.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  170. I live in Lawrenceville, NJ the town where this incident occurred with the Indians and the black 8th grader. For me this has definitely spilled into real life as the fallout is now directly effecting my child. The irresponsible Superintendent of schools has advised he would have the two males return to school instead of expelling them to foster a “healing moment”. The town leaders have come out saying that this incident does not represent the community as a whole and that most are tolerant, however the schools are rolling out collective guilt sessions in the form of “diversity training”. There is a feeling of doom among the residents of this very liberal town (adjacent to Princeton), they seem to realize that the multicultural experiment has failed. These brown kids were not supposed to have bias against the blacks. They are extremely disappointed that it is not white kids that did this. The kicker here is that whites are only 45% of the school population, so in the uptopia that these liberals dreamed of, these browns cannot be relied on to make peace with the lower caste. They also seem to acknowledge that the diversity training has not been successful. In one press conference the mayor admitted that training does not work when the parents are not supportive of the message. The biggest takeaway from this incident is how distraught liberals are, their world view has not been validated in any way and there is a certain amount of hopelessness that I have seen where some are realizing that all of their efforts to make people get along were just spit in the wind.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Anon
    , @bomag
  171. Jack D says:
    @Kratoklastes

    So the truth is somewhere in-between. Either you establish some central authority or it really is the war of all against all. Now that central authority, even if constructed by geniuses such as the American Founding Fathers, is bound to become bureaucratic and corrupt over time, as all central authorities do eventually. Our Founding Fathers even foresaw that and included the 2nd Amendment in our Bill of Rights – in case of emergency, break glass.

    • Replies: @Walsh2
    , @Jim Don Bob
  172. @Paleo Liberal

    AOC is used to serving stale pale ale on sale in a grail to many a pale male looking to nail some Amber Bitter tail. Miss Jeong has not gone wrong in hitting the bong with many a Long Duck Dong, and Elton John has memorialized Miss Jeong in song – “You know I read it in a MAGA-zeye-eee-eee-een…”

    They said some prominent Native American men were rather threatening to them, while the white guys were supportive of their cause.

    Yeah, supportive in the way John Smith was supportive of Pocahontas’, uhhh, cause (never heard it called that before).

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  173. Art Deco says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Anarchism is not a social optimum. At all.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
    , @Reg Cæsar
  174. bomag says:
    @ziggurat

    I live in the midwest and I think that racial relations are fine here.

    Okay, but as your post suggests, it adds a layer of complexity to everyday life where we have to notice who is who and how well they are treated. So instead of having things like manned space flight and high speed rail, we expend our energy making sure no one’s feelings are hurt.

  175. Steve,

    I know you’ve seen parts of this but to have it it all in one place is a hell of a resource:

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @res
  176. Walsh2 says:
    @Jack D

    They also provided us with the 10th amendment which can be used moving forward as a means to avoiding having to break the glass.

  177. bomag says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Governments do more harm than good.

    As far as government is the codification of collective action, they have the potential to do good.

    That they are often hacked by evil people is a separate matter.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  178. @Hail

    Taller than Calvin:

    • Replies: @Kronos
  179. @ScarletNumber

    Sage Steel isn’t black. She is biracial.

    Jason Whitlock said that during the era of SC6, ESPN executives were making programming decisions in response to bullying from Deadspin and Gawker.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  180. @Kratoklastes

    Don’t mistake me for some wet-brained sappy Kum-bay-yah type: I’m a misanthrope, and I would rather pick my toenails than hang out with ‘middle class’ Americans, since Americans generally think class has to do with how much shit you can buy, as opposed to a set of values. I don’t hang out with middle-class Australians, either – the only group I despise more than soi-disant urban sophisticates, is the political-bureaucratic class.

    Then how do you agree with the statement that

    most people still have goodness in their hearts and aren’t spoiling for an argument or fight

    Not that you asked, but I am not a misanthrope, yet I simply cannot see that being true. Most people I’ve known will promptly spoil their goodness for an argument or fight, provided they had it in the first place, and of course this includes myself. Maybe that wasn’t the case before, but it is now, and it’s spreading.

    [MORE]

    Compared to you, I’m provincial. I’ve only traveled around my own country, Brazil. Either the fellow countrymen I’ve met are completely unrepresentative of the Brazilian population as a whole, or our people are unlike most others*. The quoted paragraph is, in my view, not descriptive of them.

    Now, it’s also not sound to say our current rulers keep their ambitions in check and govern well, because they do not. They are corrupt and not to be trusted. But they do maintain order to some extent, arguably better than what the current subordinates (of which I am part) would in their place, as I see no reason, at all, to suspect said subordinates would not be as corrupt and self-interested if they were given power. I actually have strong suspcions they’d be even more corrupt.

    Perhaps you’ll say me writing this is just confirmation I am like Hobbes (in your view). But if that’s the case, there are enough people like me, in my society, to invalidate the statement you supported, and like I said, their (our?) numbers appear to be growing.

    Think twice before counting on human goodness. It is, at best, erratic. Comes when one least expects it, and often doesn’t come when expected.

    *It’s not outlandish to say this about Latin Americans, who are, by their actions, the most violent people in the world. Why that is the case is relevant, but I don’t have a good explanation for it.

  181. Dave says:
    @Mike1

    I think you might be one of those individuals who acts like a magnet for negative attention.
    I live in NYC, interact daily with a large number of people from more than a dozen different ethnic/racial groups from up and down the economic spectrum, have done so for 30 years, and the vast majority of my interactions are either positive or neutral. There are black people, always Americans, with significant attitude problems, but it’s easy to steer clear of those people.
    Black people from Africa and the Caribbean are invariably pleasant and even charming. Puerto Ricans can be a mixed lot, but generally nice in a working class way, and also quite “race realist”, in my experience.
    I could go on, but you get the point.
    I have to deal with the upper middle class, and there is no evident wokeness in anyone over 35, and the wokeness from the millenials is easily countered, and shut down, with a smirk or hard stare.
    Wokeness in NYC is mostly smoke and mirrors, unless you’re talking about DeBlasio and his attack dog Carranza, but that’s off topic.

  182. @Ian Smith

    I’m amused to find the school is named the “Urban Assembly School for Wildlife”.

    Oh wait, its Urban Assembly School for Wildlife Conservation. My bad.

  183. @A1

    I don’t want to be the creepy old guy leering at a young women.

    This is one of the perks, though.

  184. Jack D says:
    @Linden Arden

    That they realize that their world view has not been validated is only the first step. The real question is what they do as their next step.

    In an ideal world, the scales would fall from their eyes and they would see the world as it really is and not how they had hoped it would be and adjust their expectations and teaching accordingly. This usually doesn’t happen right away but only after decades of disappointment. Even after ideological disillusionment has set in, you may still cynically stick to your world view because it suits your financial interests. Only after you have hit a complete dead end (not that there is no bread on the shelves in the stores but that the elites can no longer get bread for themselves) do you throw in the towel in most cases.

    We are not up to that point (as you can already see from the additional struggle sessions which have been scheduled) so they are only going to double down on their ideology. If man does not act in accordance with the tenets of the Party, man needs to be re-educated and made into a New Man who will. The tenets of the Party are true and eternal (at least until the Party amends them further to include trannies or whatever among its holy objects) and humans must be made to fit in its Procrustean bed and not vice versa. If these efforts fail, it’s only because they have not been tried hard enough. The beatings will continue until morale improves.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  185. Kronos says:
    @Danindc

    You gotta preserve that 90% Democratic Party voting bloc somehow.

  186. Kronos says:
    @Stan Adams

    I always enjoyed this pic.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Stan Adams
  187. Anon[226] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Pelosi’s buckled and is taking a vote on the impeachment inquiry. She’s been trying to avoid this to avoid compromising her Dem reps in the swing districts. My take is that Pelosi has finally realized any more investigation is going to reveal stuff about her son’s doings in Ukraine as well as destroy Biden’s campaign. It has been reported that Biden’s donors are fleeing his campaign, and Pelosi hears what the big party donors say. Biden’s campaign is on the verge of imploding and the big Dem donors are panicking at the thought of losing to Trump in 2020.

    So Pelosi’s decided it’s better to hold the vote, tell her swing Dems to vote to protect Trump, and then quash the investigation to protect those seats and save Biden’s campaign. Pelosi knows she has to move her party hard middle to save both seats and give Biden a shot at the Presidency. Of course, she needs to protect her son against investigation as well. The Schiff committee may have been quietly gathering info about Pelosi’s son to pressure her into going along with what they want, and I bet Pelosi retaliated by leaking about Katie Hill to the media, and by deciding to hold the vote anyway.

  188. anonymous[626] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s a top-down sort of thing; it’s being engineered. Gay marriage acceptance was engineered in a relatively short period of time so they’re moving on to the next items on the list to be imposed on everyone. However, there’s limits when the ideological dictatorship runs up against hard reality, such as having your children’s education ruined by having them go to schools with substantial numbers of blacks. Then things hit home.People end up talking in code to avoid being identified and persecuted. At least for now.

  189. 22pp22 says:
    @dfordoom

    I don’t have one. I wish I did.

  190. Anon[226] • Disclaimer says:
    @Linden Arden

    I think what likely happened is that the cops could find no evidence that the incident ever occurred and told school officials this, and that everyone figures it’s a scamming black mother, as usual.

  191. El Dato says:
    @ScarletNumber

    “Sage Steele” is really a good porn actor alias.

    Meanwhile on the West Coast

  192. @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    Don’t be a manager.

    Be a worker.

    Then you have more options.

  193. @Arclight

    My office is 300 yards from a soup Kitchen and My view from here is that the homeless people are 80% white people. There is an endless stream of people all day everyday walking up and down the street. The people at the end of the exists with the “homeless, need help” cards are 100% white folks.

    The homeless are everywhere. There’s this one Asian homeless man that I see all the time, he just picks these weird spots and just stands there without moving. Right in the middle of the driveway at the gas station, just outside the door at grocery story. He doesn’t say anything and he doesn’t move…..totally weird.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  194. @OscarWildeLoveChild

    I make it clear that diversity, like the democratic party, is about BLACKEDNESS. Being around, living around, working around and interacting with blacks is all that matters, and I make sure that they know I hold them to that standard.

    That is Saul Alinsky’s Rule #4 of “Rules for Radicals”:
    “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

    The same approach should be used with environmentalists–they use cars, fly on airplanes, heat and A/C their homes, use plastic everything, etc.

    We are the radicals now–Alinsky is _must_ reading.

    • Replies: @OscarWildeLoveChild
  195. @Fidelios Automata

    Not that I have any problem with LGBT folks, but how brave are they really when no one dares utter a peep against them?

    Not that I have any problem with LGBT folks, but how brave are they really when no one gives a damn about them one way or another.

    FIFY

  196. @Mike1

    I’m middle-middle class, I’d guess, but I’ve never run into any of that. Perhaps I run with a different crowd and frequent different establishments and, most importantly live in a different part of the country.. All your 3 cases would result in a quick “fuck off” from me, I guarantee you, even, I should say ESPECIALLY, in Church. Don’t let your church turn “woke”, or at least leave when it gets close.

  197. bomag says:
    @Anon

    We need a society of lawsuits to make CEOs mind their own business instead of your personal beliefs.

    Looks like the other side beat us to it: we have a society of lawsuits that favor POC; women; LGBT; etc.

  198. @Arclight

    Similar story. Usual corporate meeting about what we thought of a managerial presentation about ‘diversity’.
    Silence, but with something bubbling underneath.

  199. @Barnard

    I’d guess that’s most of it, but there are a lot of white kids with their 10,000 hrs already in to compete with these days.

    My nephew was playing over 100 games a year by the time he was nine. Other nephews, other side of the country had football games with six-year-olds in a stadium with announcers. Of course all very vocal in their conservative Christianity but the idea you might not want to schedule a game on Sunday morning is unthinkable.

    The SJWs aren’t the only ones who’ve gone nuts.

  200. @J.Ross

    Ass Cheeks of Saturn was my favorite.

  201. bomag says:
    @Linden Arden

    The biggest takeaway from this incident is how distraught liberals are, their world view has not been validated in any way and there is a certain amount of hopelessness that I have seen where some are realizing that all of their efforts to make people get along were just spit in the wind.

    I’m in a lower class area with even worse demographics. The moment you describe came and went back in the 1970s. A few hard-core liberal types hanged on into the ”80s with their message of kumbaya. The few libs remaining today are akin to religious proselytizers hanging around a casino or whorehouse.

    POC reliably disappoint.

  202. eah says:
    @eah

    “All-White Photo Shoot” = bad, “All-Black Diverse photo shoot” = good — how much of this goes on implicitly in the background, affecting what everyone sees in ‘real life’? — what is the long-term effect on a population of media that ends up being saturated with this type of ‘woke’ message?

    • Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage
  203. Hail says: • Website
    @Kronos

    So that settles it:

    The author of Leviathan was taller than the Geneva Reformation man after all.

  204. @JAhd

    I am not filling in for Tiny Duck but it seems to me that black women are sick and tired of seeing their men in the NFL, NBA and in TV ads marrying or dating white women, hence the hostility.

  205. AaronB says:

    In NY, racial relations in general are remarkably amicable and there is no noticeable tension. Everyone is pretty cool with everyone else, and politeness and good humour rule the day for the most part.

    The official narrative generally has little relation to daily life. For instance, for millennia in Christian countries the official narrative was about peace and love, while war and conquest was the order of the day.

    Likewise, the official narrative of racial tension seems to coexist with remarkably amicable racial rations in daily life.

    It’s almost as if reality functions in a kind of inverse ration to the official narrative. At any rate, the official narrative seems to play a peculiar function, and its purpose is not to reflect reality.

    I think a worthwhile study would be how official cultural narratives – official religions – bear such a curious inverse relation to actual reality in said society.

    Some sort of law might be able to be established.

    • Replies: @Cat Hierophant
  206. nymom says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    I think we are seeing some evidence of this in NYC elections. In November there will be a question for people to okay “Weighted balloting” …I am not sure what this means exactly but I think its something like you give everyone maybe 5 votes and you can either throw all of your votes behind one person or you can spread them out among a number of candidates…

    I am not certain but I think its a sneaky and undemocratic way to get more gays or blacks or more other minorities into positions of power if their cohorts throw their five only behind the one candidate instead of dividing them up among a few candidates.

    This should get some publicity…

  207. J.Ross says:
    @Desiderius

    Wow. I saw some CNN at a diner the other day (I didn’t demand they change it because I live too nearby, but also nobody else was looking at it). It’s like DPRK TV. Every sentence was about Trump and every construction was twisted so that Trump was always losing, exposed, caught out, facing defeat. They are adhering to Zucker’s ukase to pretend that an impeachment is happening, Norkishly enough by simply flashing the word “IMPEACHMENT” in sans serif red allcaps on a black background. The speaker somehow manages to find a new way to re-claim that Trump is days away from not existing any more and under him the chyron scrolls about how Trump was wrong about something. When they break the commercials are also about how Trump ate the sun.

    • Agree: jim jones
  208. @bomag

    Government cannot properly determine the correct avenue for ‘collective action’, so the ‘potential to do good’ is a shibboleth.

    It’s akin to saying that I have the potential to run a sub-2hr marathon – after all, I’m a human (close enough), and it’s now listed among things that humans have done.

    The Arrow Impossibility Theorem, the Gibbard-Satterthwaite Theorem, the Duggan-Schwartz Theorem and Holmström’s Theorem – taken together – make it absolutely clear that even if government wanted to determine ‘what the people want’, there is no mechanism to do so.

    So now we’ve done some dimension-reduction: the problem is now whether it’s defensible to justify the power to stick a gun in people’s ribs, by appealing to an estimate of ‘what society wants’, arrived at by a mechanism that is known to be incapable of accurate determination. Worse still, it’s an estimate whose sample properties are unknown (for very simple ordinal choice sets, the probability that the wrong choice wins, get up above 50% quite quickly).

    And that’s before considering whether government – having decided ‘what people want’ – goes about providing whatever that is by the most efficient mechanism. That is to say, at the lowest cost per unit of quality-adjusted output.

    .

    Doubtless when you write of ‘collective action’ you have in mind some aspect of government that you don’t find objectionable – #muhroads or national defence or school lunches… whatever.

    It’s a very common trope to just point at those things and say “See! Government can do good!”. As usual, it ignores Bastiat’s TWINS (That Which Is Not Seen).

    The first of the TWINS is the cost imposed by the government intervention itself – from the welfare losses associated with how it funds itself, through to the general-equilibrium effects of its intervention in goods and factor markets.

    In order to do anything, governments have to fund the doing – either through taxation, or through debt (which is just future taxation at more than dollar-for-dollar).

    So at some point, they are taking dollars that have higher-value alternatives (otherwise they could fund shit with subscriptions).

    That’s stage 1 of the utility loss governments generate when they do things. They’re taking dollars that people would prefer to use somewhere else: that forced transfer is welfare reducing.

    Stage 1A is when government choose a non-optimal tax mix (which equilibrates the marginal excess burden of taxation across all taxpayers). Tax systems are regressive everywhere – because the rate-progressivity of income taxes is swamped by the regressivity of indirect taxes. So government projects are funded inefficiently, in the sense that more utility is lost than would be optimal.

    Stage 2 is the losses associated with reallocation of economic activity away from sectors where private actors would have spent the money the government just (inefficiently) took. Every dollar taken in taxes, is not part of the individual’s budget anymore – and with total tax rates hovering at ~25%, that’s a lot of money that is being diverted.

    Stage 3 is when government starts to intervene in the market for whatever it is. They compete for inputs into whatever it is – which distorts markets other than the one in which they’re directly intervening. It distorts – indirectly – the entire economy (people who use similar inputs; then on to people who use substitutes for, and complements with, the relevant inputs).

    Stage 4 is when government’s inherently-low productivity results in whatever it is being produced using a higher-cost/lower-quality production function.

    When you add up all those losses, they come to more than 100% of any putative ‘problem’ that government claims they need to solve.

    Bear in mind that unless there is some specific externality or other market failure, government has no proper role in perturbing the pattern of economic activity: whatever they do is – necessarily – a perturbation to what would otherwise be a Pareto-optimum (and a Bayes-Nash equilibrium… similar concept, but with uncertainty) in expected-private-utility space.

    So to be ‘good for the people‘ requires that the non-private benefits produced by the intervention, more-than offset the private utility losses – however even if that was the case (as it is in mighty Wakanda), there is a redistribution of utility that is involuntary. Even if the pie is made bigger, the most productive people in society wind up with a smaller part of it than they had to begin with.

    And at the end, there’s a new school or whatever… at a project cost 5x what it would cost if done efficiently.

    .

    The second of the TWINS is the dynamic consequences – let’s just do two for now, because we’ve already found costs that obliterate any claimed social-welfare improvement arising from government distortions.

    Governments have the largest concentration of power in any society.

    Large concentrations of power are an attractive thing for people who like concentrated power. Those people are called megalomaniacs.

    So, over time, it should be expected that megalomaniacs will be over-represented in senior roles in government and the bureaucracy.

    That means that the bits of the bureaucracy they control, will experience declines in output quality, faster-than-normal growth in cost, and (eventually) staff departures among senior, non-megalomaniac staff.

    So the core dynamic consequence of ① is that government ends up being populated mostly by assholes, being terrible at everything, and being costly.

    ② Governments are institutionally incapable of adhering to a stable intertemporal budget manifold.

    This is somewhat related to ①, but indirectly. Having assholes in charge doesn’t help keep budgets trim, but even in an arsehole-free government the problem would persist.

    Again, Holmström’s Theorem bites: it is not possible for a group of agents to jointly achieve budget balance, Nash equilibrium and Pareto optimality (and that’s in a world without uncertainty!). As such, there is constant pressure – at given wage rates – to depart from Nash Equilibrium (or Pareto-optimality); since that results in unstable teams, and since governments have loose budget constraints to begin with, it’s expedient to just increase the budget.

    (And that ignores additional impulses from the ‘asshole in charge’ effect: senior politicians and bureaucrats always want their empires to be bigger).

    So the second dynamic consequence is that debt grows without bound. Eventually there is either hyperinflation or a bond massacre: in either case the real value of assets get smashed.

    .

    Seriously – it’s just not even close. If you spend a good decade analysing policy for a living, you come to the conclusion that societies would be better off without government. They don’t do anything well, and everything that they do badly is far more expensive than it should be, considering the quality of their output.

    That’s considered a looney conclusion in the Current Year – but that’s because a very large number of people do the ‘point at a school as if that’s all government does‘ thing.

    • Replies: @bomag
  209. nymom says:
    @jpp

    The only difference (and its a big one) is that blacks only constitute 13% of the US population…

    I don’t think the growing population of Hispanics in our country are going to treat them too well either…I guess the only clues I have is our public school system where Hispanics have set up numerous dual language Spanish programs and you can only get into them if you have a Spanish speaking parent in the household and prisons…where a lot of the time of the guards is spent on keeping blacks and Spanish-speaking inmates from killing each other…

    Politicians might be woke and go into alliances with one another but ordinary people don’t always fall into place so easily…

  210. @Desiderius

    As a long-time youth and High School soccer coach I saw the insanity first-hand. Every middle class suburban kid’s parents were convinced that Jr. was a sure-fire D1 scholarship athlete. All the complaints about my coaching could be distilled into the simple phrase: “You don’t realize how good he is”. Someone once related a story about a Little League baseball coach who reached his limit with insane parents. The coach told one father that if he was serious about his son making it to the Big Leagues, he should quit his job, sell his house, and go live in the street with his family. If athletic success was the only way for his marginally-talented son to escape poverty, he might have a chance, just not a very good one.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  211. @Desiderius

    I once heard Tommy John on the radio, discussing the rising number of arm injuries from pitchers requiring Tommy John surgery.

    Long story short — young pitchers overuse their arms between all the LL and HS and club teams. So now a lot of pitchers are having surgery in high school. The club sports are more intense further south. U of Wisconsin no longer has a baseball team, but their softball team recruits almost exclusively in Florida, Arizona, Texas and So California, where the girls play all year around.

    Even up here in Wisconsin, a pediatrician told me he gets quite a few patients coming in every year due to club sports. The weekend tournaments really tear up the young bodies.

  212. @Art Deco

    Define ‘social optimum’, and how you think it is determinable (preferably at finite cost) and whether it’s a number or a manifold.

    Since it’s a manifold (i.e., a range of feasible paths) made up of uncertain (and probably unknowable) paths, it’s impossible to establish a rank-ordering among competing systems. What can be said praxeologically – and with some empirical support – is that the government solution is net welfare reducing, and has inherently negative dynamics. Anarchism doesn’t: its transition path might be short-term messy, but its long-run is an unconstrained optimum (which makes it a Bayes Nash equilibrium if one exists).

    If you’re seriously asserting that government intervention generates welfare gains that more-than-offset the welfare losses it creates by intervening, it would be useful if you could show your working. If it stands up to scrutiny I’ll throw out 2 decades’ worth of tables of estimates of excess burden by tax type.

    If you’re thinking that a ‘social optimum’ is simply the maximal-output configuration – again, some worked examples would be handy – implying as they do that constraints introduced by government permit a higher optimum than is possible in the absence of those constraints. That would re-invent some important bits of the theory of optimal control and the calculus of variations (think what it means mathematically for a constrained optimum to have a higher value than an unconstrained).

    Plus – the maximal-output configuration might be something that everybody rejects. Although it’s unlikely, it might be a configuration in which forced labour is OK, but only if applied to gingers. (People will often reject correct policies: the Tullock Spike is the best example).

    I don’t think you’re actually asserting either of those two things – you’re just using a buzzphrase as if it’s a meaningful term in a discussion, but it isn’t… thinking back to government-mandated halides and their deleterious effect on human metabolism, it’s fitting that terms like ‘social optimum’ are best understood as bromides.

  213. @Al Bundy

    Is this anything new?

    A friend of mine, a Vietnam veteran, told me in the 70s and 80s he would tell the girls he was a liberal feminist. They didn’t use the work Woke yet.

    If he got pissed off at the girl, and wanted to end the relationship, he would quite rudely and nastily tell them his real political opinions.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  214. @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    And save every bit of technological knowledge you have within your control. On durable digital hardware and on paper.

  215. @Achmed E. Newman

    Crap, I confused Miss Jeong in my head with sexy cyborg Naomi Wu. The former is a bitter Koreomerican with the natural look, while the latter is a silly Chinese girl from Old Cathay with big fake easily-electrified boobs.

    Peak Stupidity regrets the error but not the electric boobs … errr …boots.

  216. @David

    The HTML spec needs updating – it’s past time for a formal ‘sarc’ tag.

    I assumed that people would notice the reference (Leviathan i. xiii. 9 – “The Incommodites Of Such A War“) and would get the gag.

    After all, if Hobbes is permitted to claim that humans without a strongman in charge would automatically abandon all joint social activity (and the whole of society would devolve into a warzone), then I’m permitted to claim that he was 5’4″, had no friends, no cash, and was an ugly motherfucker.

  217. nebulafox says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    This strikes me as so bizarre and sad, though. Why anybody would pass up on the potential love of their life, or sever a friendship or family tie over politics-something that 99% of Americans have absolutely no practical influence on-is something I just can’t wrap my head around.

    (Also, everybody knows the super-feminist ladies are into some seriously freaky, submissive stuff in private. At least the ones my age are.)

  218. A healthy proportion of ghetto Blacks and wannabe ghetto rats in the Metro Detroit area have been doing disrespect and signifying against Whites for decades. Things are a little better now.

    Part of that is everything is races. Snuck into an event or venue and got caught? Races. Got caught stealing? Races. Got caught doing the short change scam? Races. Got caught cutting in line? Races.

    Plus, if there are 4 or 5 of them and they think they can get away with it, they square off and chimp out. However, they are usually careful about doing that in the suburbs the last 20 years because many Whites have carry permits now. About once a year they try going nuts and attack a White woman at a store and she pulls her pistol–so their family can go on TV and yell Races.

  219. Screwtape says:
    @Cat Hierophant

    On a neighborhood app a woman posted she was upset that someone had accused her of being a hateful racist on a different post. She could not understand how her comments could have been interpreted as such.

    The responses were mostly other goodwhites recommending books on how to understand systemic racism, her white privilege etc. so that she could be a better white among our diversity os strength. Everyone patted themselves on the back about their budding wokeness on how whites are racist no matter what they do.

    We are a loooong way from whites advocating for fellow whites. The prog religion is still in the holiness spiral phase. Long way down. Lotsa tax cattle to harvest. Lotsa white kid ballast to grind up. I have zero time for those people. Men without chests.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  220. J.Ross says:

    Without any spilling, there is a meetingplace of hatred between the most progressive and the most regressive. Scania CEO warns of [higher energy than current] civil war due to absimilation.

    The former CEO of trucking company Scania has warned that Sweden is heading towards civil war due to uncontrolled mass immigration.
    In an interview with Swebbtv, businessman Leif Östling said that the arrival of so many new migrants who have failed to integrate into Swedish society is creating a fertile ground for violent unrest.
    “We’ve taken in far too many people from outside. And we have. Those who come from the Middle East and Africa live in a society that we left almost a hundred years ago,” he said.
    Explosions and grenade attacks have skyrocketed in many Swedish cities, with much of the unrest being blamed on migrant gangs. Sexual assaults and violent crime is also on the rise.
    Östling underscored problems with integration by highlighting his own experience running Scania, where around 90 out of a hundred Somali migrants hired to work for the company were fired or left because they were unable to arrive on time or work in teams.
    Östling believes that the “knowledge transfer” necessary for migrants to cope in Swedish society could take a generation to accomplish.
    The businessman said he hoped that the country’s problems could be fixed within 10 years but if not, civil war could ensue, necessitating that the military be called out to deal with violent unrest in migrant areas.

    https://summit.news/2019/10/28/former-ceo-of-scania-warns-sweden-is-heading-for-civil-war/

  221. Dmon says:
    @J.Ross

    Whatever happened to the old Fourth Doorman of the Apocalypse? Seems like he didn’t make the leap over to UR.

  222. res says:
    @Desiderius

    That is a terrific graphic. Do you have any idea how he generated it? I thought the NYT Chronicle project was dead: https://nytlabs.com/projects/chronicle.html

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  223. @Achmed E. Newman

    I’m North Shore, Boston. Lots of old-moldy money up here, WASPy money, lots of Conservative types, but no one on the streets and stores around here even mentions any of that stuff. Of course, everyone is White here, even the ditch-diggers and housekeepers, so no wonder, on second thought, that we have peace.

    Gotta love New England!

  224. @nebulafox

    My mom tried it when I refused to vote Obama the second time. Didn’t realize it at the time but first time I ever stood up to her. Wasn’t long after wonderful wife came along. Grandkids keep Grandma’s half-baked politics to herself.

  225. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Mr. Anon

    Switzerland works because 1.) It is wealthy and the Swiss know they have it pretty good, and 2.) The different ethnic groups have a large degree of autonomy; the federal government is not too powerful.

    The different ethnic groups having a large degree of autonomy might well be the key.

    You can forget the separate nations daydream. It isn’t going to happen, for a whole series of reasons.

    But maybe we also need to forget the assimilation illusion, at least in its more extreme forms. The melting pot means you just end up with a boring inedible indigestible sludge. It’s bad for everybody and the worst thing is you get a monoculture which mens you have no culture, no values, no beliefs, just lots of alienated individuals.

    But semi-autonomous polities within a larger polity could work. It could be done in a way that offered each group protection from the tyranny of the majority, some control of their own destiny, their own identity and their own culture and a fair share of power and wealth. They could even have, for purely internal matters and to a limited degree, some of their own laws (for example different groups might want slightly different divorce laws) and perhaps even their own courts.

    The big advantage is that you don’t need the semi-autonomous polities to be organised on geographical lines (which is the biggest reason separate nations isn’t going to happen). Each person could choose which polity they want to belong to. Whites would vote for the white parliament (or congress or whatever), blacks would vote for the black parliament, East Asians could vote for the East Asian parliament. The national government would be a loose federation of the autonomous polities with each parliament having the right of veto over matters specifically affecting them.

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Art Deco
  226. bomag says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    As the wheels really come off the economy…

    The thing is, we have unprecedented prosperity, which will continue for awhile.

    But instead of spending on a better space program, we indulge people’s political pettiness.

  227. @res

    Have to ask the man – he’s worth a follow. Have yet to meet a singular, solitary person with two brain cells to rub together who is seriously on the other side of these arguments, whatever one’s prior political commitments.

  228. @nebulafox

    Most of them aren’t serious, it’s just a shit test, but a shit test millions of chestless men fail with wilted colors and a sickeningly cloying pride.

  229. dfordoom says: • Website
    @nebulafox

    What is disturbing is how much corporate America has aligned themselves with them. I don’t think it is so much out of ideological belief, or even a conscious desire to create the social atomization that is in their political interest, so much as it is to avoid trouble and take the path of least resistance.

    I have to disagree. The corporate sector are the people actively and deliberately driving and funding this stuff. Not out of ideological belief but out of self-interest and greed.

  230. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Kratoklastes

    Governments do more harm than good.

    I suspect that if you actually lived in a place with no government you’d change your mind real fast.

    Governments will always be imperfect and often very imperfect. But even lousy government is better than no government.

    • Agree: Dissident
  231. @Jack D

    Dave Chappelle gets Mark Twain Prize, says comedy career ‘saved my life.’

    Chappelle informed the audience “I did not write a speech.” During his impromptu remarks, he defended freedom of speech when talking about comedians he knows who are “very racist.”

    “(I) don’t get mad at ’em, don’t hate on ’em,” he said. “Man, it’s not that serious. The First Amendment is first for a reason. Second Amendment is just in case the First one doesn’t work out.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/346665/

  232. @Arclight

    I can’t imagine even attending any “community event” or conference these days. Those are the venues where this “wokeness” bullshit has to be pushed, because it can’t be promoted one on one among people. When the person being targeted is at arm’s length from the expounder, shit can get real in a hurry.

  233. @Jack Henson

    In the local rag, Tulsa World, they use to refer to it as the Tulsa Race Riot, now it is the Tulsa Race Massacre. They have something on their Web front page every single day about it. Every single day. I kid you not.

    http://www.tulsaworld.com

    There is a whole race hustling industry that has grown up around that riot in the last 15 years.

  234. @J.Ross

    I remember a guy who posted as Holden Magroin. I forget where I saw that handle.

  235. @Not My Economy

    As Justin Trudeau is supposed to have said (and I wouldn’t put it past him), ” If you kill your enemies, they win.”

  236. @HammerJack

    Whatever might lead a group that totals 13% or so of a population to assault the largest segment of the other 87% seems to be aimed at genocide of the 13%. I recall the bouncer at a club, back in the late ’70s who was about 6’4″ and tough as a $2 Tbone, being harassed by a little asshole with a Jewfro who wasn’t being allowed into the club because he was drunk and obnoxious.

    The bouncer just looked at him and said, “You’d better think”. That’s what someone should tell American blacks right about now, while there’s still time for them to back off.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  237. SFG says:
    @nebulafox

    Your last statement, I can confirm.

  238. @Jim bob Lassiter

    I did see McInnes’ video (based on Derbyshire’s recommendation) and saw the white Proud Boy’s black wife.

    I see these sorts of pairings every day in my college town. White male-black female is less common than the converse, but I still see them. The white female in the converse typically is obese.

    I’m not a student of mating and “pickup artistry”, but isn’t it well understood that in a mixed race society black women are disadvantaged having less “sexual market value” than women of the other races?

    And isn’t that enough reason to segregate the races? Disparate impact, don’t you know.

  239. newrouter says:
    @Miss Laura

    Young Negros need better security at their “Twerk or Treat” parties.

  240. MEH 0910 says:

    • Replies: @Jack D
  241. InHoustin says:

    I work for a very very very very large corporation in Houston. Corporate hq is not here.

    I am very White (and Hispanic—-would reject ‘conquistador American’ but Hernan Cortez is super awesome and love the guy. Definitely a “Hernan Cortez” American! Lol.)

    I feel at ease in both a white and Hispanic environment, no problem. Spanish is my first language, but English is equally good/better.

    -I am Nordic, English, Irish and Spanish: and love every last bit of ALL my European ancestry, Spain included. I look Anglo/Irish, if you saw me walking down the street.

    Upper middle class (income in the $250-500k range).

    SATs In the 1200-1300 range and went to school in Boston area, 1980s. History Major with a lot of business courses, just to keep it practical.

    Raised super poor, so have absolutely no racial fkn guilt that some white people have. Fkn retards. What the eff is wrong with people?

    Went through public schools with our AA friends: they are fkn awful. They should be sent back to their jungle, if that is what they will.

    Married with a very awesome (white) child. Would love to have more but would probably kill my wife, due to health issues.

    I get the impression that Whites and Hispanics work very well together and there is very very little friction
    , almost everyone I work with is white or Latino, college educated, super complex business.

    My wife (European) always giggles and says: “aren’t there any black people around?” (She works in energy business: no blacks around, lol, none; you need a telescope!)

    “No, there aren’t. The few that are: are super educated and smarter than you or me.“

    I was shocked when there was a black co-worker who sounded whiter than white on the phone…then proved her chops in doing her job super well. Such that I rely on her, very strongly. Prove yourself, I am on your side. Be a slacker, I hate your guts. There are a few who are super good. There are a couple of AAs like this.

    Most blacks are squeezed out and work in the lower areas if they are around at all. Basically AAs are Non-existent in the good jobs in Houston: yet supposedly there are a lot of AAs in Houston.

    My impression of the future is: whites and Latinos and Asians will basically be “white”—-we like each other and there is very little separation in attitude, culture (less between Latino and White than Asian, etc…Christianity, same general
    Culture, most Latinos seem to be assimilating to English, frankly, we are just pretty close.

    My church has both English and Spanish masses: quite a few of the folks that show up for English mass are English man his Hispanic woman and children or vice versa. And the kids are…white, racially and culturally.

    From a business perspective: The whites and Latinos and Asians: show up and are a strong team.

    Woke stuff? Haven’t seen any yet. Would probably get less traction with Latinos and Asians than with whites.

    Latinos laugh their ass off about that! A dude who thinks he’s a girl! Come man! Lol! No way!

  242. @nebulafox

    Also, everybody knows the super-feminist ladies are into some seriously freaky, submissive stuff in private. At least the ones my age are.

    Don’t know what your age is, but those close to the action in the 1970s said one of the most prominent and fiercest feminists of that era was famous among friends and allies for giving great head.

    Me, I’m the [ahem] polar opposite; I may question women’s suffrage, but find fellatio to be only a millimeter of two above buggery when it comes human degradation, regardless of the demographics or direction of service. (Cunnilingus is at least arguably defensible as being manly; the fellow is in charge.)

    Want to please me, miss? Cook me breakfast!

    But, no… that degrades the modern woman.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  243. Jack D says:

    Personally, I say whatever floats your boat. Whom am I to judge?

  244. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    The key is always that the decisionmaking elites must personally be impacted.
    When that happens, there is change.

    The Brits bought the IRA off when they started getting hold of real Semtex and started blowing up financial targets. The City told the pols that they had to deal with this one way or another; stamp the IRA out root and branch or buy them off. That the IRA were bought off shows that they were at least credible enough sufficiently as destructive and durable to make the pols question whether Britain’s vaunted special warfare forces even could do the job without extreme collateral damage and political blowback.

    So they took the Bobby Riggs path and did the sure thing, or at least the surer thing.

  245. @scipio africanus

    You don’t realize how good he is

    The only proper response to that is “You don’t realize DI teams are limited to 9.9 scholarships per school. That literally isn’t enough to field an entire team.”

    Also, I don’t think most parents realize the jump it is from HS to DIII, nevermind DI.

  246. @eah

    The fear over this kind of “incorrect diversity display” is very prevalent among marketing, PR, HR, advertising executives and staff (mostly the women who demand less white people and more minorities in movies/ads/covers/etc, who are aggressive about these opinions and the men jus nod out of fear of getting ‘cancelled’).

    It affects castings for everything from fashion campaigns to billboards to magazine covers to movies to TV shows. If you’ve ever wondered why there are so many interracial couples in ads, it’s because of these female staff members of the ad firms, casting firms, marketing departments, etc. who push this because it’s the Right Thing To Do nowadays and the older male executives either don’t realize or are afraid to object. On a mass scale this absolutely has an effect on society. They are the corporate red guard acting out the diversity mantra.

    • Agree: HammerJack, eah
  247. @KunioKun

    Pronouns are a thing in lots of places now where educated young people work.

    It’s retarded. The pronoun-specifying person hears/reads a pronoun only when someone is speaking/writing *to* the person, and in that case it’s always “you”.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  248. Ragno says:
    @iffen

    It’s almost as if instead of being in the age of the Roman Empire in decline, we are entering into the Stalinist age in Russia.

    Remember the good old days of reading histories of the decline and fall of Rome, and shaking our head at the eerie parallels – well, not really, but just enough to give yourself a frisson of one day, if we’re not careful…

    But there’ll be no more lollygagging over a volume of Graves or Procopius in an overstuffed chair, musing over advanced civilizations so decadent they fell from within, victims of their own rot and cowardice and know-nothingism, so – nose out of the book! Because we weren’t very careful after all, and now that “one day” is here.

    • Replies: @iffen
  249. Kronos says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    As a rule, female organizations are almost destined to be conquered/controlled by lesbians. They’ll strategize and get their people into power. The remnants of the previous leadership (especially if attractive) will be placed in a lesbian harem.

    That essentially explains how feminism became a conquered vassal state for the LGBTQ community.

  250. @J.Ross

    And the word “repatriation” is not mentioned because…?

  251. @Kronos

    Do they have one showing John Calvin urinating with a mischievous smirk on his face?

    • Replies: @Kronos
  252. @anon

    Oh yes! I used to write “My Turns”- full op eds = in the local newspaper and sign my name with address. Now that paper assigns op eds to the local liberal or neo con elite opinion makers or posts editorials from the Washington Post. I would no more sign my name to my opinions
    than I would roller skate on the highway. I value house and home

  253. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    Glad to hear the Swedes are heading toward civil war. They need a good war there to restore some that Viking toughness they’ve obviously lost.

  254. @Kronos

    Possibly the best thing about that delightful vid clip is the fact that both negroes, firing multiple rounds at point-blank range, miss every shot.

    Because (as everyone knows) they do love firing their pieces but never seem to find the time for target practice. Takes effort and discipline to do that.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  255. @J.Ross

    Scania CEO

    Ever since I was twelve and saw one at the county fair, I’ve wanted to take Saab up on their offer to take delivery of a vehicle in Sweden, drive it around, and float it home. That isn’t possible anymore, sad to say.

    Does Scania, their one-time partner, have a similar deal? A Saab plane is a bit too pricey.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  256. @Art Deco

    Anarchism is not a social optimum. At all.

    The First Amendment is anarchist on the subjects it covers. Is that a failure?

  257. Kronos says:
    @Stan Adams

    Unfortunately not, but I do have this…

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  258. @AaronB

    Likewise, the official narrative of racial tension seems to coexist with remarkably amicable racial rations in daily life.

    Our northern Virginia correspondent writes:

    Thanks, AaronB, that is good to hear. Things are similar in the People’s Republic of Greater D.C. We’re in the run-up to an off-year election, for bottom-of-the-barrel offices like school board superintendent and city councilor. My mailbox is filled with flyers for candidates — almost all Democrats, the odds-on favorites in this patch. The direct mail pieces invariably include the standard boilerplate about inclusion, equality, more everything for persons of color, gay rights, etc. Some are thinly veiled anti-white propaganda.

    But in day-to-day interactions with blax, plus latinx, dot-Indianx, and all the rest of the colorful replacement population, I’ve experienced no hostility. Relations are superficial; the various groups keep to themselves and what are you going to converse about with people who often barely speak English, for whom the USA is an income dispensary and shopping center?

    It will not be surprising if this modus vivendi changes should the economy crack up. But I’m mildly encouraged that goodwill still seems to prevail.

  259. @Kratoklastes

    Corrupt fuckbags without State apparatus can do local damage on limited scales, and it is not remotely contentious to say that resistance against private fuckbaggery is morally legitimate.

    But when you resist the fuckbags, the fuckbags resist back. Which makes you resist all the harder, which makes…. in short order, a war of all against all.

    I don’t recall Hobbes arguing that the sovereign would be morally unimpeachable, simply better than the alternative of no sovereign.

  260. Mr Puroik says:

    Depends on where you are. I think it’s safe to say that you can walk one city block in Manhattan for five minutes and encounter more wokeness than if you took a year to walk from one end of West Virginia to the other

    • Replies: @Dave
  261. @Kronos

    Arminian:

    Armenian:

    Arm median:

    Arm-ie Hammer in a med-iocre movie:

    Finis

  262. Moses says:
    @blackbodies

    At his quarterly telegraphs, the president of my business division hastens to cheerily emphasize this,

    Ah, the president of your division is a man. So why doesn’t he resign so a woman can take his place?

    Rhetorical.

    It’s weird how the loudest calls for “muh gender diversity” come from Boomer and older X-gen men who love to virtue-signal. Oddly, they never seem to resign or incur ANY personal cost to advance their virtuous cause. An added benefit is more female sycophants with whom to fool around with.

    The people paying a personal price for the feelgood virtue-signaling are young men who are actively discriminated against.

    Yes. Get the hell out of this company. They hate you. You are going nowhere there.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  263. Moses says:
    @jpp

    Escape to where? Mars? We have no homeland, no right of return.

  264. Kronos says:
    @HammerJack

    Keep in mind that was a busy city sidewalk. One with multiple people going both directions. 2.7 seconds isn’t a lot of time to get out of the way of a “spray & pray” shootout. I watched the clip again the shooters are magically relocated into an alley. (Which makes missing each other all the more amusing.) Though the police demonstrated superb shooting technique and stance.

    *Also, here’s another clip to further one’s education on “nigga moment” subject matter.

  265. LondonBob says:
    @Hail

    Football in Britain, typically a right wing sport, has become extremely woke. The journalists can’t write a match report without including some nonsensical leftie talking point. Quite unbearable.

    • Replies: @Hail
  266. bomag says:
    @Kratoklastes

    We agree more than we disagree.

    Schools have become an example of gov’t failure, considering that dropouts and graduates have the same life outcomes considering their socio-economic standing and other structural factors; at age 25 professional educators can’t tell who has and has not been through their institutions.

    I’d say a case could be made for collective action funded by subscription: it’s nice to have a road going by my house that allows access to shopping and entertainment, and I’ll pay the toll to use it as needed. True enough that megalomaniacs seize upon, and warp, this basic utility to justify seizing all assets and income streams to fund their claimed utopias.

  267. Kronos says:
    @Moses

    Are the women hot? Do they have family connections?

  268. Anonymous[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    You still got an inferior US spec car at the end.

    You can find decent 25 year old Euro spec cars over there in decent shape, buy them, drive them around and have them shipped home and if you pick the right one it will be worth more here than there. Not by enough to make a big profit but it will help offset the shipping cost.

    Certain models of BMWs and Benzes and certain “tuner cars” are good candidates. Generally best to avoid RHD cars as they’re tough to resell.

    Marques not sold here can be tough to resell also because no one knows what they are. Unless the car had an iconic movie role, etc.

    I almost bought a XJ40 era LHD Jaguar tuner car retrofitted with a 4 liter VM Cento in-line six diesel like the ones used in FedEx vans here, but I had problems with getting my money wired from the bank to Germany. Probably a good thing in the long run given the electrical issues with those cars.

  269. @Justvisiting

    There should never be a single instance, ever, in which any “woke” white person (SJW, etc) is permitted to speak on any issue, without being challenged about their own lifestyle and choices, to include their sacred children (e.g. “Why isn’t your child in a more diverse elementary school?” “what do you mean by better schools in ____ area, what makes them better?”). SJWs love to use blacks as a proxy for everything, especially to challenge you on any or your choices or tastes (“OMG, why don’t you like R&B? says a Becky). Give it right back.

    It should be a social, cultural and spiritual 10,000-lb whale laid on their chest, full pressure at all times.

  270. Art Deco says:
    @dfordoom

    Suggest another explanation: Swiss self-understanding emerged before linguistically-demarcated territorial states captured the loyalty of ordinary people. The upland areas of Europe had a different agrarian system than lowland areas and serfdom had largely disappeared by the 16th c. The Swiss confederation was a voluntary assemblage of localities run by burgesses and yeoman farmers (who were quite small segments of the population in most of Europe). Overlaying that, Protestantism is common in the Francophone cantons, while unusual in France and the Germanophone cantons were hotbeds of anabaptist communities unusual in the other German states. Also, the vernacular German dialects spoken among the Swiss are so odd that they’re not altogether intelligible to Bavarians, much less people from farther north in Germany.

  271. Sean says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    The ‘white guys’ being better looking than any high quality men of their own people willing to play second fiddle perhaps had something to do with it. My experience is limited but suggest Muslim women are, more often than might be thought, bored out of their skulls with their married life and open to a outside tryst.

    Where those from a strict culture (lack of selection for innate restraint) are in an environment of personal choice: negative assimilation. In other words she is by nature very horny. He married a woman almost two decades older so he has somewhat different standards. No denying that Ilhan Omar is good looking though.

  272. Hail says: • Website
    @LondonBob

    Football in Britain, typically a right wing sport, has become extremely woke

    When did the change occur?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Marty T
  273. AndrewR says:
    @Hail

    Absolutely. I detest the man but I can discuss him without reflexively bashing everything he does. TDS seems to be far more widespread and virulent than previous forms of presidential derangement Syndrome.

  274. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Hail

    Football in Britain, typically a right wing sport, has become extremely woke

    When did the change occur?

    Presumably when the elites decided that since working-class people liked football it had to be either taken away from them or destroyed.

    That’s what happened in Australia.

    The Great Awokening is all about class.

  275. iffen says:
    @Ragno

    musing over advanced civilizations so decadent they fell from within, victims of their own rot and cowardice and know-nothingism

    This is not the Apocalypse!

    We’ve just hit a rough patch.

    We can recover.

    • Disagree: JMcG
  276. AndrewR says:
    @Steve in Greensboro

    More often it likely demonstrates the man’s commitment to getting his nut off with a lady with whom he has a mutual attraction. I doubt these pairings often occur due to ideological reasons.

  277. AndrewR says:
    @blackbodies

    You’re doing the Lord’s work, fam.

  278. Marty T says:

    I don’t see much of it in real life, but a problem remains that the vast majority of white, educated people do not understand the threats to them and their kids…and are more worried about Trump’s tweets.

    • Agree: sayless
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  279. Marty T says:
    @Hail

    And why? In America I’d say bball and soccer are woke, college football, golf and Nascar traditional. I want to see hockey become the sport of the new right but at the moment it’s generally apolitical (with the exception of homo nights in Feb).

  280. @J.Ross

    Are you forgetting “40 Acres and a Kardashian”? All time best, IMO. Honorable mention for “Assistant Village Idiot” and “Malcolm X-Lax.”

  281. @Cat Hierophant

    I have fantasized that if I were to win one of those giant Powerball pay-outs, I would set up a foundation to provide financial assistance to white people who lost their jobs due to our current racial McCarthyism. For example, I would give $100,000 to Officer Darren Wilson, who after defending himself against Michael Brown lost his job and will never work again in law enforcement. If I were in a position to fulfill this fantasy, I would have to accept the fact that I would become the most reviled man in America.

    The left provides a soft landing for its heroes who get in trouble. Angela Davis and Bill Ayers are doing just fine. When the Obama administration had to let Communist Party member Van Jones go, he got a nice berth at CNN and with several left-wing activist groups. CNN seems to be happy to hire anyone involved in creating the Russia collusion hoax.

  282. @Triumph104

    Deadspin is an odd site in that it’s for sports fans who don’t enjoy sports.

    • LOL: keypusher
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  283. @Ron Mexico

    I suspect not many USA blacks play baseball because, as my sons learned real early on, it is a really boring sport.

    It doesn’t reward physical aggression as much as football and even basketball.

  284. AndrewR says:
    @Joe Stalin

    No government could possibly concede that the citizens have the right to violently overthrow it. The United States can be thought of as perhaps the greatest political paradox in history. While Beta is utterly loathsome, he’s just making explicit what any politician in power believes: that there is no right to violent resistance of the government.

  285. @ben tillman

    The pronoun-specifying person hears/reads a pronoun only when someone is speaking/writing *to* the person, and in that case it’s always “you”.

    Someone who identifies as “they,” could be addressed as “y’all” or “youse” (NY vernacular).

  286. Jack D says:
    @MEH 0910

    I also just found out that Hampshire College, another haven of SJWs, is hanging on by a thread:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2019/10/21/downfall-hampshire-college-broken-business-model-american-higher-education/?arc404=true

    The article really explains how the economics of SJWism just don’t add up anymore for these 2nd and 3rd rate liberal arts colleges. OTOH, they depend on tuition to keep the doors open but OTOH they can’t fill their class, especially with qualified students, unless they discount their prices below what state college would cost. Not too long ago, Hampshire was the kind of place where the average student was a lesbian with blue hair. But recently, it became the kind of place where the average student is a BLACK lesbian with blue hair.

    The result is an economic and academic death spiral. It couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of folks.
    In Hampshire’s case, hilariously, the students condemned the place (which was already top 1% in SJWism) as a haven of racism and sexism and would approach kids on tours and tell them NOT to come for this reason. If you are a prospective freshman and a fat black lesbian with blue hair tells you this, it has a big impact. Either you take her at face value and don’t apply or else you think “this is the kind of place where unhappy fat black lesbians who make false accusations set the tone” and you don’t apply either. Thanks a lot guys.

    The article points out that residential liberal arts colleges are pretty much a uniquely American thing. I guess this is one more nice thing (yes, believe it or not these places were nice once) that we aren’t going to be able to have any more in the new, diverse Woke America.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  287. @Dtbb

    There is still a section of town I wouldn’t walk around in at night.

    The usual explanation for this phenomenon is that the inhabitants of that neighborhood are actively engaged in enacting blackness in the traditional manner. This does not necessarily mean that all of those engaged in what scholars in the field of Blackness Studies often refer to as “performative negritude” trace their heritage to the indigenous peoples of West Africa; toxic blackness often spreads via contact with those already demonstrating this behavior.

    This syndrome can also be acquired via exposure to mass media-promoted narratives that support it — especially when the media outlets in question are controlled by members of the African diaspora.

    • Agree: brandybranch
  288. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D

    Mexican immigrants didn’t wreck these places. Their faculty and their administrators wrecked them while their trustees dozed. Look at Oberlin. The college president (in a double act with her immediate predecessor), the GC, and a fat idiot of a dean have through pig-headed malice landed the college on the wrong end of an eight-figure judgment and the trustees have not replaced them.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  289. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco

    The ranks of SJW students include a fair share of Latinx’s such as Pablo (“They”) Gomez, the Berkeley stabber (who BTW has completely dropped from sight – no news of any trial or plea. I assume they are keeping him locked up in the looney bin until he is “sane enough” for trial, which may be never).

    I agree with you that the fish stinks from the head but read the WaPo article (pretty good reporting by modern standards). One of the things that is causing the meltdown is that as the # of white people declines, their brown replacements are not capable of either paying for a liberal arts education nor completing one. There is absolutely nothing equivalent to an Oberlin or a Hampshire in any Latino country.

    The fact that the student body is now browner than in the past has also pushed the administrators to the left so as not to be left without legitimacy among the students. Now a lot of these admins didn’t need to be pushed and in fact were DOING the pushing to the Left, but even if the deans were themselves conservative Republicans, just having to govern a browner student body would prevent you from getting too far to the right of them before they burned your office. In fact the admins thought that they were doing some kind of triangulation between the town and the students – they were just too idiotic (and Leftist) to pull off anything that required finesse.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @AndrewR
  290. Dave says:
    @Mr Puroik

    Complete nonsense. Reading the NYT, or Steve’s dissection of it, gives people a severely distorted view of what average, and not so average, people do and say to each other here on a daily basis.
    As I commented earlier, I’ve been here for 30 years, and wokeness is almost non existent on the streets.
    The only wokesters are privileged, white hipsters in Brooklyn and the East Village, none of whom know any actual blacks or Latins.
    You probably won’t believe this, but I’ve encountered more genuine race realism in my daily interactions in NYC over the course of the past 30 years, than anywhere else I’ve been in the U.S.
    Most people who live here cannot ignore the racial realities that exist in this city, although they may not talk about them openly.
    Yes, there are plenty of stereotypical Jewish lefties, or lefties of other flavors, but you don’t see them in your face everyday. Most people get along very well with each other here, contrary to what the NYT would have you believe.
    It also shows you how rancid the “journalists” at most major media platforms really are.
    They live in a different mental universe than the bulk of the population, even in NYC.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  291. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D

    There is almost no demand-side pressure and nearly all of the activity is artificial and contrived by people employed there. If they admitted people according to a vector equation which included board scores, achievement test scores, and high school grades as arguments; hired an ample security staff; made use of security contractors on select occasions; allowed the security staff to do their jobs; and made use of suspension, expulsion, and criminal complaints against the few dozen students who showed up at events to cause trouble; there would be no problems.

    It hasn’t squat to do with the racial composition of the youth cohort. High priced teaching institutions like Oberlin account for about 6% of each year’s freshman class. If they were having trouble recruiting competent students to meet their fixed costs (they generally are not), they could have fixed their population of matriculants at 1981 levels and devoted a portion of donations and capital campaigns to financing endowments to meet maintenance costs (or, heaven forbid, quit putting up new buildings). They have problems because they recruit marginal students as decoration and then the worst elements of the faculty and administration use them (and the usual run of loosely-wired youngsters you see anywhere) to harass people they do not like.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @bomag
  292. Corvinus says:

    “I’m starting to get the impression that The Great Awokening is starting to spill out into real life, with increased racial obnoxiousness in daily interactions.”

    Not particularly.

    “The good news is that the average American of whatever race isn’t anywhere near as vile in terms of wanting to stir up racial hate as the typical New York Times op-ed contributor.”

    Or the typical Alt-Right unz.com blogger!

  293. @blackbodies

    Likewise, my fortune 500 company has become awash in diversity based employee resource groups (ERG’s) neatly coinciding with declining profit margins and significant dysfunction to due lack of real leadership. Company response to declining profits, double down on ERG hiring put White males out to pasture. Doesn’t look to rosy. They are going to put me out to pasture, yeah!, thankfully I did the right things to retire early.

  294. Corvinus says:
    @theMann

    “The relentless pushing of Women into positions for which they are woefully unqualified; first, because they cannot handle work criticism”

    Sounds like you were pushed aside for a promotion and you still harbor resentment. It happens. But, generally speaking, women are qualified for those positions and handle criticism when warranted.

    “second, because any remotely good looking woman is viciously competitive with any other remotely good looking woman, and realistically, they cannot work together.”

    It’s not about their looks, it’s about their disposition. There were several attractive ladies at my place of employment, and on occasion there was cattiness. But, for the most part, they worked together.

    “2. Not too sure how it is going to work out for Indian Subcontinent workers, given their obnoxiousness, cupidity, nepotism, and (in IT anyway) less than stellar work.”

    That’s not really accurate.

    “In any case, the general Rule is: all Women and non-Whites routinely engage in behavior, if it were one White male to another, would result in a beat down.”

    LOL, tough talk from the Internet armchair warrior.

    “when IN FACT, the only thing protecting them is White forbearance. Someday that is going to end.”

    Someday, someday, that’s all I ever hear. So, when do you think there will be this collective roar from white men who are ready to tear apart their enemies limb from limb? Are you prepared for this chimp out?

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  295. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco

    If they admitted people according to a vector equation which included board scores, achievement test scores, and high school grades as arguments; hired an ample security staff; made use of security contractors on select occasions; allowed the security staff to do their jobs; and made use of suspension, expulsion, and criminal complaints against the few dozen students who showed up at events to cause trouble; there would be no problems.

    LOL, if they did this, they would be VMI or The Citadel, not Oberlin.

  296. Steve Hasn’t posted on this in a while, but on the topic of “why do Jews encourage inflame minority tensions in the US?” I think it’s to deflect attention away from the topic in Israel.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @SFG
  297. @Dave

    That’s my experience as well, though I’m not in NYC. What you describe is pretty much the norm where I live as well. This wokeness nonsense is a media creation and it’s pretty much limited to TV and the pages of newspapers and magazines and the websites of those publications. Maybe it is played out on college campuses as well, I don’t know.

    It truly is nonsense. I think that Steve is just pointing out the absurdity of it.

  298. Jack D says:
    @Ginger Bread Man

    Steve Hasn’t posted on this in a while,

    Hmm, maybe never?

    t’s to deflect attention away from the topic in Israel.

    And they would have gotten away with it if it hadn’t been for Ginger Bread Man . We all know that all Jews have bolt holes waiting for them in Tel Aviv so they don’t mind turning America into a complete hell hole, so long as it distracts people from Israel.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  299. Hibernian says:
    @interesting

    Asian or Hispanic panhandlers are exceedingly rare.

  300. Corvinus says:
    @Screwtape

    “We are a loooong way from whites advocating for fellow whites.”

    You mean you think white men ought to act in your preferred manner. The fact is that white men can make their own decisions about race, culture…and skirt chasing, and do not required your approval nor virtue signaling.

  301. Ive posted on the topic before but her Las Vegas public school called us in to discuss the fact our kindergarten daughter wanted to be a boy.When we said she was a girl and we were going to raise her as one they dropped the matter . I sometimes wonder what would have happened had we not rejected the idea out of hand.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  302. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    And they would have gotten away with it if it hadn’t been for Ginger Bread Man . We all know that all Jews have bolt holes waiting for them in Tel Aviv so they don’t mind turning America into a complete hell hole, so long as it distracts people from Israel.

    Even Israel has limits, they wouldn’t let Mickey Cohen in.

    But as a general rule Jewish nest foulers have an ace in the hole others don’t, that said, most American Jews do not really want to move to Israel and if they did, would do so. The overall standard of living is not very good, and there is that military thing.

  303. @Corvinus

    Are you prepared for this chimp out?

    Uh… he’s not advocating that men of European descent enact blackness in the traditional fashion. Surely even a comparative cognitive cripple such as yourself is capable of comprehending this?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  304. Corvinus says:
    @James Forrestal

    Actually, he is in favor of such an action. Why you don’t see it right in front of you–“when IN FACT, the only thing protecting them is White forbearance. Someday that is going to end”–is truly beyond me.

  305. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Marty T

    but a problem remains that the vast majority of white, educated people do not understand the threats to them and their kids

    White educated people, and white middle-class people, and reasonably wealthy white people do not face any threat. They’re doing fine and they’ll go on doing fine. What threats do the white folks of Santa Monica face?

    It’s not just the white elites who are unconcerned by the Great Awokening. It’s the semi-elites and wannabe elites. It’s not just the 1%. It’s more like the top 25% of the population who are doing very nicely indeed. And among whites it’s probably closer to the top third.

    Those wealthy whites (not just the billionaires) are not worried by white genocide because they’re not gonna be genocided. They’re not gonna be sent to gulags or whatever. The white elites, the white upper middle classes, the whites in the middle ranks of the middle classes, the white intellectual classes, the white petite bourgeoisie, the white Country Club Republicans, the white media classes, the whites in academia – they’re in favour of the Great Awokening because they benefit from it.

    The whole point of the Great Awokening is to protect the wealth and power and influence of all those whites who are doing well. To protect them from those nasty lower-class people in the Rust Belt who might get uppity.

  306. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    Those wealthy whites (not just the billionaires) are not worried by white genocide because they’re not gonna be genocided. They’re not gonna be sent to gulags or whatever. The white elites, the white upper middle classes, the whites in the middle ranks of the middle classes, the white intellectual classes, the white petite bourgeoisie, the white Country Club Republicans, the white media classes, the whites in academia – they’re in favour of the Great Awokening because they benefit from it.

    Sometimes these things backfire.

    • Agree: bomag
  307. @ScarletNumber

    This Deadspin article about ridiculous computer graphic renderings of proposed stadiums is pretty funny though:

    https://deadspin.com/the-7-laws-of-vaportecture-stadium-arts-fever-dream-1833445857

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  308. Anonymous[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Mexico

    Lots of blacks play baseball, it’s just they have Spanish names. Biologically they are still black.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  309. bomag says:
    @Art Deco

    It [has] squat to do with the racial composition of the youth cohort.

    Still, the staff and admin believe the modern advertising that if you help out under-served kids, they will rise up and fund your endowment; their kids will pay full tuition. In this and other areas, promises exceed results.

  310. SFG says:
    @Ginger Bread Man

    The sort of Jews who stir up tensions usually think of Israel as an embarassing colonialist power that needs more Wokeness. They either (a) believe America is a hotbed of racism they have to unwind or (b) think they can use diversity to guarantee Democrat voters.

    The sort of Jews who post about Israel endlessly are usually lukewarm about wokery. Even the guys at Commentary are publishing anti-social justice books.

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/tag/social-justice/

    • Agree: Jack D
    • Replies: @AndrewR
  311. AndrewR says:
    @Jack D

    “There is absolutely nothing equivalent to an Oberlin or a Hampshire in any Latino country.”

    Wow this totally proves that White™ people are superior. No need to even point to an Oberlin-like university in any White™ country outside the US. Just say “lol Latinos are dumb” and call it a day’s work.

  312. AndrewR says:
    @SFG

    The pro-Israel ones are almost as bad. Shapiro, Boot, Rubin, Kristol and the dyslexic JPod are all as passionate about bashing “white racists” as they are about defending the occupation of Palestine.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  313. Mr Puroik says:

    keep in mind, that only 8% percent of Americans are members of the highly woke class, called “Progressive Activists”. These folks also tend to be the whitest and richest group. More than one quarter of all Americans are completely apolitical:

    https://hiddentribes.us/#americas-hidden-tribes

  314. @Bostonvegas

    Aren’t the LV public schools terrible?

    Anyway, you should have replied that yesterday your daughter wanted to be a butterfly, and the day before she wanted to be a turtle. Kids that age have active imaginations.

  315. @Steve Sailer

    I found it meh, but I understand that architecture is one of your interests.

  316. @Anonymous

    Biologically they are still black.

    I don’t know, Victor Robles looks like he came over on the Armada

  317. ATBOTL says:
    @XYZ (no Mr.)

    Woke culture permeates many churches of all types, including Evangelical Protestant …

    Theologically conservative Evangelical leaders are overtly anti-white now. They openly push white privilege ideology and open borders. The are very hostile towards any kind of cultural identity for whites. Everything is about missionizing non-whites. The entire zeitgeist of Evangelical Protestantism is fundamentally liberal. That’s why so many younger conservative whites from Protestant backgrounds are interested in traditional Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy.

  318. Art Deco says:
    @AndrewR

    There is no such place as ‘Palestine’ and the Arab politicians have repeatedly rejected attempts to devolve authority or cede territory (in 1967, 1972/76, 1978, 2000, 2004, and 2008). They don’t want Arab villages. They want dead Jews.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  319. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco

    The Arabs/Pals haven’t been too smart about it, but neither side wants the other alive so long as they are on turf they think the Divine Entity By Whatever Name has made theirs. If all Jews moved to New York and Florida the Arabs wouldn’t particularly want them dead and if Jews had Eretz Yisrael 100 percent Jewish they wouldn’t particularly give a shit about Arabs or Muslims either.

    The Jews are higher IQ and they control the media of news and entertainment in the biggest empire the Earth has ever seen. But they are neurotic and make mistakes. The Arabs range from average to stupid and have a tendency to go off half cocked but they don’t give up. The Jews have a nicer place to go to and the Arabs don’t. North America could take every Jew on planet (G_d forbid! but it could….) but America will implode long before it could take every Arab no matter how cucked its pols are.

    And since in the ultimate sense political power comes out of the uteruses and vaginas of a people’s fertile and birthworthy women and, as even the not terrifically smart Billy Carter said, there are a lot more Arabs than Jews, absent divine intervention in the very long run they’ll win.

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