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  1. Sounds like a job for (the blogger known as) Paul Kersey.

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    Sounds like a job for (the blogger known as) Paul Kersey.
     
    This is true. You know he has posted on probably all of the killings and other incidents that could have been read about anywhere not local-only. SBPDL could display all of this if he'd make a quick search through his archives.
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  2. WGG says:

    I applaud your effort here but it won’t amount to much. The (((media))) pushed the narrative that innocent blacks were being systematically hunted down in the streets en masse by white police forces. Blacks and MSNBC watching whites actually believe there is a massive Wounded Knee massacre going on in the country every day. These people are too uninformed, and the meme is just too convenient. They will cling to this myth forever, like other racial victim myths of the past.

    Any amount of bad behavior on the part of these Neo Wounded Knee victims will be justified as legitimate resistance. Facts don’t matter, and civil war is coming.

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    "I applaud your effort here but it won’t amount to much. The (((media))) pushed the narrative..."

    Slave mentality. Not to pick on this commenter, because this depressive fatalism is very common on the Right (might even be a Celtic thing), but this is not an attitude that is going to shake up the world, to say the least.
    , @epochehusserl
    Any amount of bad behavior on the part of these Neo Wounded Knee victims will be justified as legitimate resistance. Facts don’t matter, and civil war is coming.
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    It would be interesting to poll unz readers to see how many believe there is going to be a civil war.
    , @KenH

    Blacks and MSNBC watching whites actually believe there is a massive Wounded Knee massacre going on in the country every day.
     
    It defies reason, but they do believe "innocent" black men are being stalked and killed by white cops on a daily basis. It was a false narrative created by the (((MSM))) to energize and galvanize blacks and self hating whites so they would flock to the polls in record numbers in 2016.

    Years ago I had a college educated black coworker claim that millions of atrocities are being committed against blacks every year. I challenged him on his bold claim and demanded he cite a few examples and he got mad and couldn't.

    The fact that blacks believe EVERYTHING they are told by black and other racial demagogues without verifying facts for themselves will ensure civil war. It's only a matter of when.
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  3. A full and exhaustive catalog is probably impossible since suppressing evidence that a given black on white crime was motivated in part by BLM’s antiwhite stoking is probably the standard now, particularly in and around cities controlled by Democrats and with heavy black populations (i.e., Baltimore or Philadelphia). Since Lavontraveous jacked a drunk pale straggler after dark at, say, the Inner Harbor while saying “black lives matter” or some other clear indication of motivation but also took the victim’s wallet, it’s officially a robbery and nothing more.

    The only incidents we’re going to be able to rely upon with “official” sanction are the ones for which the motivation is announced broadly and publicly before the attack, and even then the connection is going to be refuted with an attack on our lyin’ eyes.

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  4. Clyde says:

    Last July you got those five police gunned down (sniper) in Dallas. That one evaporated from the news really quickly. The broke back media knew it would boost Trump and hurt Mrs. Grifter Hillary.
    ________

    (Black) Dallas official refuses to vote for day honoring gunned-down cops, blames deaths on police violence…and he’s a crook as well.
    Dallas official refuses to vote for day honoring gunned-down cops, blames …
    commonsensewonder.blogspot.com · 1 day ago

    … County Commissioner John Wiley Price refused to vote for a resolution making July 7 — the date when five Dallas police officers were gunned down in an ambush by an assassin — as a day to …

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  5. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    OT: This is long, thorough article. And mind-boggling.

    http://nationalinterest.org/feature/ive-worked-refugees-decades-europes-afghan-crime-wave-mind-21506?page=4

    I’ve Worked with Refugees for Decades. Europe’s Afghan Crime Wave Is Mind-Boggling.
    Afghans stand out among the refugees committing crimes in Austria and elsewhere. Why?

    Dr. Cheryl Benard
    July 11, 2017

    In 2014, when waves of refugees began flooding into western Europe, citizens and officials alike responded with generosity and openness. Exhausted refugees spilled out of trains and buses to be met by crowds bearing gifts of clothing and food, and holding up placards that read “Welcome Refugees.”

    This was a honeymoon that could not last. Some of the upcoming difficulties had been anticipated: that the newcomers did not speak the local languages, might be traumatized, would probably take a long time to find their footing, and had brought their ethnic, religious and sectarian conflicts with them, causing them to get into battles with each other. All of these things happened but—as Angela Merkel promised—were manageable. “Wir schaffen das.”

    [Read the rest here]

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    It's horrifying to hear the problem laid out like that and to know that even so, the Afghans will continue to arrive, rape and defraud, and the ones who notice it will be the bad guys, not the ones who commit the crimes.
    , @bomag
    Still, the reporter remains an immigrant booster; she just wants better law enforcement to make things work out.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Good catch, and surprising - but here is the showstopper:

    Finally, the Left has to do a bit of hard thinking.
     
    There is no evidence that has ever happened. Or ever will - the Left is a collection of religious zealots.
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  6. Ed says:

    If confined to police killing that explicitly cite BLM I come up with 10:

    ’14: Two Brooklyn cops killed by Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley

    ’16: Five Dallas cops killed by Micah Johnson

    ’16: Three Baton Rouge cops killed by Gavin Long

    Of course we’ve also had riots or mini-riots in Baltimore, Charlotte and Minneapolis since then as well.

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  7. Officer Familia of the NYPD was killed cause of BLM, no?

    You may not have heard of her because the Narrative is seeing the Tsar under the bed and buried the story.

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    Come on, this will not do. Let's get our smears straight.
    It's Boris and Natasha cause Rocky and Bullwinkle said so.
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  8. kihowi says:

    I agree with the others. Steve, your strategy is following the media so closely that you notice the times when they slip up and accidentally report what they don’t want to report.

    That’s not an ideal way of forming a model of reality. The more unpalatable the facts, the less they’ll slip up.

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  9. Dahlia says:
    @WGG
    I applaud your effort here but it won't amount to much. The (((media))) pushed the narrative that innocent blacks were being systematically hunted down in the streets en masse by white police forces. Blacks and MSNBC watching whites actually believe there is a massive Wounded Knee massacre going on in the country every day. These people are too uninformed, and the meme is just too convenient. They will cling to this myth forever, like other racial victim myths of the past.

    Any amount of bad behavior on the part of these Neo Wounded Knee victims will be justified as legitimate resistance. Facts don't matter, and civil war is coming.

    “I applaud your effort here but it won’t amount to much. The (((media))) pushed the narrative…”

    Slave mentality. Not to pick on this commenter, because this depressive fatalism is very common on the Right (might even be a Celtic thing), but this is not an attitude that is going to shake up the world, to say the least.

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    "... this depressive fatalism is very common on the Right ..."

    But just as accurate to say that each new wave of youth reflexively adopts the subject myth.
    , @Charles Pewitt

    Slave mentality. Not to pick on this commenter, because this depressive fatalism is very common on the Right (might even be a Celtic thing), but this is not an attitude that is going to shake up the world, to say the least.

     

    White Core Americans will be led to victory over the globalizers by leaders who think like William the Conqueror.

    The answer to 1984 is 1066.

    The internet says I have some Norman ancestry, so I'll think like William the Conqueror. I also have some Saxon surnames on my father's side.
    , @Jake
    'depressive fatalism' a Celtic thing?

    Celtic myth does not have a Gotterdammerung. That type of culture-wide fatalism is Germanic.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Agree.
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  10. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    OT – Related somewhat to your previous post on Macron and African fertility comes this tweet from the UK Guardian. Read it and view the accompanying photo.

    Want to fight climate change? Have fewer children

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  11. George says:

    Is anybody keeping a list? Yes, the FBI.

    https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/terrorism

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  12. @WGG
    I applaud your effort here but it won't amount to much. The (((media))) pushed the narrative that innocent blacks were being systematically hunted down in the streets en masse by white police forces. Blacks and MSNBC watching whites actually believe there is a massive Wounded Knee massacre going on in the country every day. These people are too uninformed, and the meme is just too convenient. They will cling to this myth forever, like other racial victim myths of the past.

    Any amount of bad behavior on the part of these Neo Wounded Knee victims will be justified as legitimate resistance. Facts don't matter, and civil war is coming.

    Any amount of bad behavior on the part of these Neo Wounded Knee victims will be justified as legitimate resistance. Facts don’t matter, and civil war is coming.
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    It would be interesting to poll unz readers to see how many believe there is going to be a civil war.

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  13. Marty says:
    @Dahlia
    "I applaud your effort here but it won’t amount to much. The (((media))) pushed the narrative..."

    Slave mentality. Not to pick on this commenter, because this depressive fatalism is very common on the Right (might even be a Celtic thing), but this is not an attitude that is going to shake up the world, to say the least.

    “… this depressive fatalism is very common on the Right …”

    But just as accurate to say that each new wave of youth reflexively adopts the subject myth.

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  14. JackOH says:

    OT, but somewhat related. Will Steve or another Unz writer take a look at Black Supremacism? My limited understanding of the subject is that Whites have delivered a triple whammy to Black folks. First, White folks stole the knowledge and wisdom of ancient Black Egypt. Second, White folks enslaved, transported to the New World, and stole the labor of sub-Saharan Blacks. Third, White folks destroyed flourishing Black African civilizations during the former’s colonial period.

    I don’t think most American Blacks actually subscribe to these ideas in a clearly articulated way, but a lot of American Blacks do believe sort of fuzzily that their grievances against American Whites have multiple tributaries.

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    I would estimate that a majority of Black people I know personally believes these three principles, at least at the fuzzy level. And why not, those three ideas are taught as historical fact in every educational entity in the US outside of home schools.
    A sadly large minority will tell you straight out that EVERYTHING was invented by Black people, and the US would be a wilderness if Black people hadn't created America.
    Deconstruct the content of education, entertainment and culture down to the message: Black people have undergone a reverse version of Nazi propagandizing. It teaches them they are the members of a Master Race and White people are analogous to the Jews who have oppressed and held down the Master Race through subterfuge, guile, betrayal, and brutal repression. In the real world sports and entertainment depict Blacks as physically superior, faster, stronger, sexier. In the fictional world in every movie or TV show the Black scientist, doctor, engineer, businessman is always, always, the smartest person in the room, just like Obama's image of himself.
    , @Jake
    Back in the mid-1970s, I went with a black friend to the house of a black friend of his. The parents were middle class blacks, the mother with a Juco degree, the father with a high school diploma and a union job. They attended church every week - African Methodist Episcopal. They owned a modest brick house. None of the family had ever been convicted of a crime.

    Prominently displayed as their only living room coffee table boom was a huge volume on African cultural history. I perused the book and asked to borrow it - which they not only allowed, but were thrilled to do so. The book made all 3 of those 'points.' It painted a picture of blacks as having invented civilization, which whites stole from blacks. The conclusion did not cal for blacks to rise up and murder whites, but it did say that unless whites confessed their sins of racism and repented by giving it all back to blacks, that such a conflict probably would occur.

    All things considered, those blacks in that family were among the 10% - certainly 15% - top of their race. And that is how they thought about race.
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  15. How Much Black Lives Matter Terrorism

    MIT’s got smoots.

    What is one unit of BLM terrorism called? Any bartenders out there?

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  16. Travis says:

    Blacks have been waging terror against whites for decades, the recent BLM inspired killings are just the tip of the iceberg. Polar Bear attacks was a recent example of Blacks attacking whites before the BLM began.

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  17. The Black Lives Matter Mob(BLMM) can be pacified very easily. It is the corporate propaganda apparatus, or the corporate media, that pushes the anti-White propaganda that riles up the BLMM to no end. Are the BLMM puppets terrorists? Yes they are. Has the Black Lives Matter Mob set out to terrorize Whites? Yes they have. But the real evil is done by the corporate media which creates an atmosphere of anti-White propaganda.

    The corporate media is the evil which must be destroyed to allow truth to prosper in regards to the Black Lives Matter Mob and other things. I do not recall that there are too many Blacks among the few who control the anti-White propaganda in the United States. Oprah? OK.
    Blacks do not control Comcast or NBC, for example. Who does control NBC? Who are the Roberts family?

    Who controls CBS? Who are the Redstones?

    Sun Valley: Shari Redstone Takes Center Stage as Media Moguls Gather https://www.yahoo.com/movies/sun-valley-shari-redstone-takes-center-stage-media-131908496.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw via @YahooMovies

    White Core Americans must not allow anti-White elements in the corporate media to continue to push anti-White propaganda. It is time to begin dislodging from power the corporate media megaphone which creates the atmosphere in which the Black Lives Matter Mob thrives. The owners of the corporate media are a bigger threat to White Core Americans than the low IQ boobs in the Black Lives Matter Mob.

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  18. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    No one keeps record of neocon terror either.

    If you’re one of the holy people, all bad deeds go down the memory hole or historical black hole.

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  19. Arclight says:

    Not sure – but at what point does the professional left realize that hugging BLM and Linda Sarsour is not a path back to power? Or are we about to get a full dose of both when Kamala Harris runs for president?

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    Not sure – but at what point does the professional left realize that hugging BLM and Linda Sarsour is not a path back to power? Or are we about to get a full dose of both when Kamala Harris runs for president?

     

    The Democrat Party is picking up an electoral non-White voter cohort quarter in front of an oncoming White Core American voter steamroller. The Democrat Party will be flattened.
    , @Jack Hanson
    They are going to run Kamela Harris and I will be here shaking my head at the eeyores telling us how polls with 15% MoEs show how Trump is doomed.

    Just like the Dems have one response to everything (Russia!), they think the magic in the bottle is running another biracial one term senator.
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  20. @Dahlia
    "I applaud your effort here but it won’t amount to much. The (((media))) pushed the narrative..."

    Slave mentality. Not to pick on this commenter, because this depressive fatalism is very common on the Right (might even be a Celtic thing), but this is not an attitude that is going to shake up the world, to say the least.

    Slave mentality. Not to pick on this commenter, because this depressive fatalism is very common on the Right (might even be a Celtic thing), but this is not an attitude that is going to shake up the world, to say the least.

    White Core Americans will be led to victory over the globalizers by leaders who think like William the Conqueror.

    The answer to 1984 is 1066.

    The internet says I have some Norman ancestry, so I’ll think like William the Conqueror. I also have some Saxon surnames on my father’s side.

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    So you are going to invade England and massacre a quarter of the native population and dispossess the rest?
    , @Jake
    In one sense, William did see himself as advancing civilization, because he was a Francophone. And as he was out to defeat and then tame Anglo-Saxonism, and his main allies were the Celtic Bretons, his case may indeed be the most instructive to our potential salvation from what our WASP leaders and their Jewish allies have planned.
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  21. @Arclight
    Not sure - but at what point does the professional left realize that hugging BLM and Linda Sarsour is not a path back to power? Or are we about to get a full dose of both when Kamala Harris runs for president?

    Not sure – but at what point does the professional left realize that hugging BLM and Linda Sarsour is not a path back to power? Or are we about to get a full dose of both when Kamala Harris runs for president?

    The Democrat Party is picking up an electoral non-White voter cohort quarter in front of an oncoming White Core American voter steamroller. The Democrat Party will be flattened.

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    The Democrat Party is picking up an electoral non-White voter cohort quarter in front of an oncoming White Core American voter steamroller. The Democrat Party will be flattened.
     
    That's likely to be the case if the Right can put together an enduring conservative/populist coalition. Unfortunately neither side has really committed to such a thing, because Trump.

    But hey, maybe we want to spend all our time going back and forth over Mika's failed facelift. It's not like there's anything else worth our attention, right?
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  22. Not me, but, hey, off topic of this post, but only one day, so ….

    Zerohedge is on the BART withholding-of-video dealy here: BART Withholds Video Of Attacks Over Concern About “Stereotypes”, a day later than Steve/Unz.

    I can’t read the ZH comments on the older browser, but I’m sure you all will like ‘em. They are usually a good bunch.

    This is the first time I’ve seen the news report on video. I can see where one would be confused about BART when it’s not in writing, so missing the capitalization:

    “Bart said ‘we have to take the lead of the … blah, blah’” “Bart said …..”
    Had I not known of this GBay Area Rapid Transit system already, I would have just assumed the story was about Bart Simpson, but then “He’s only 10; what does he know about rapid, semi, or even non-rapid transit? Plus, he’s just a cartoon guy – how do these newsbabes ask him questions to begin with?”

    OK, back on topic …. no, I have not been keeping a list.

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  23. @Clark Westwood
    Sounds like a job for (the blogger known as) Paul Kersey.

    Sounds like a job for (the blogger known as) Paul Kersey.

    This is true. You know he has posted on probably all of the killings and other incidents that could have been read about anywhere not local-only. SBPDL could display all of this if he’d make a quick search through his archives.

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  24. Lot says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Slave mentality. Not to pick on this commenter, because this depressive fatalism is very common on the Right (might even be a Celtic thing), but this is not an attitude that is going to shake up the world, to say the least.

     

    White Core Americans will be led to victory over the globalizers by leaders who think like William the Conqueror.

    The answer to 1984 is 1066.

    The internet says I have some Norman ancestry, so I'll think like William the Conqueror. I also have some Saxon surnames on my father's side.

    So you are going to invade England and massacre a quarter of the native population and dispossess the rest?

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    So you are going to invade England and massacre a quarter of the native population and dispossess the rest?

     

    That's a harrowing question.
    , @Jack Hanson
    I know you're being tongue in cheek but that's likely what it will come to here.
    , @David
    First I ever heard about W. the C. massacring 25% of the English populace. Source?
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  25. ic1000 says:

    Here among public radio listeners, the number of BLM terror incidents would be None, if I could understand the question. That’s in the whole country. The local riots unrest Uprising had nothing to do with anything like that. Nothing, I tell you.

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  26. notice says:

    I wish BLM could be provoked by an agent provacateur into protesting at many leading white-urban private schools on the grounds that they are emblematic of white privlege and de facto racial segregation. The more whites (all subsets of whites too) that are frightened by BLM, the better. Sidwell-Friends would be a perfect start.

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    The Unitarian Universalists are taking the opposite tack, notice.

    I'd lay 14:1 that BLM is dead in the water on this fact alone:

    A friend reported that the Unitarian Universalist church in Olympia, WA, a few miles from Evergreen State College, last fall hung a huge BLM banner on the side of their giant house of self-worship in upscale West Olympia.

    When the yacht-owning globe-trotting Prius-and-Leaf-driving UUs embrace you, you're way seriously mainstream.

    UUA Board of Trustees commits $5.3 million to Black Lives of UU/
    Historic decision to meet BLUU’s funding request will require fundraising, may draw on endowment.
     
    http://www.uuworld.org/articles/board-commits-5-million-bluu

    Note the date on that--October 17, 2016.

    The silly sods are doubling down on self-hating and movement toward congregational racial quotas. This from May:

    Two-thirds of UU congregations participate in White Supremacy Teach-In
    One of the largest joint efforts among congregations in recent history, organizers say.
     
    http://www.uuworld.org/articles/two-thirds-participate-teach

    In closing on this point, some dark comedy:

    http://www.uuworld.org/articles/two-uua-employees-robbed-new-orleans

    http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2017/06/french_quarter_beating_arrests.html
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  27. KM32 says:
    @Anonymous
    OT: This is long, thorough article. And mind-boggling.

    http://nationalinterest.org/feature/ive-worked-refugees-decades-europes-afghan-crime-wave-mind-21506?page=4

    I've Worked with Refugees for Decades. Europe's Afghan Crime Wave Is Mind-Boggling.
    Afghans stand out among the refugees committing crimes in Austria and elsewhere. Why?

    Dr. Cheryl Benard
    July 11, 2017

    In 2014, when waves of refugees began flooding into western Europe, citizens and officials alike responded with generosity and openness. Exhausted refugees spilled out of trains and buses to be met by crowds bearing gifts of clothing and food, and holding up placards that read “Welcome Refugees.”

    This was a honeymoon that could not last. Some of the upcoming difficulties had been anticipated: that the newcomers did not speak the local languages, might be traumatized, would probably take a long time to find their footing, and had brought their ethnic, religious and sectarian conflicts with them, causing them to get into battles with each other. All of these things happened but—as Angela Merkel promised—were manageable. “Wir schaffen das.”

    [Read the rest here]

     

    It’s horrifying to hear the problem laid out like that and to know that even so, the Afghans will continue to arrive, rape and defraud, and the ones who notice it will be the bad guys, not the ones who commit the crimes.

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  28. Alfa158 says:
    @JackOH
    OT, but somewhat related. Will Steve or another Unz writer take a look at Black Supremacism? My limited understanding of the subject is that Whites have delivered a triple whammy to Black folks. First, White folks stole the knowledge and wisdom of ancient Black Egypt. Second, White folks enslaved, transported to the New World, and stole the labor of sub-Saharan Blacks. Third, White folks destroyed flourishing Black African civilizations during the former's colonial period.

    I don't think most American Blacks actually subscribe to these ideas in a clearly articulated way, but a lot of American Blacks do believe sort of fuzzily that their grievances against American Whites have multiple tributaries.

    I would estimate that a majority of Black people I know personally believes these three principles, at least at the fuzzy level. And why not, those three ideas are taught as historical fact in every educational entity in the US outside of home schools.
    A sadly large minority will tell you straight out that EVERYTHING was invented by Black people, and the US would be a wilderness if Black people hadn’t created America.
    Deconstruct the content of education, entertainment and culture down to the message: Black people have undergone a reverse version of Nazi propagandizing. It teaches them they are the members of a Master Race and White people are analogous to the Jews who have oppressed and held down the Master Race through subterfuge, guile, betrayal, and brutal repression. In the real world sports and entertainment depict Blacks as physically superior, faster, stronger, sexier. In the fictional world in every movie or TV show the Black scientist, doctor, engineer, businessman is always, always, the smartest person in the room, just like Obama’s image of himself.

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  29. Jake says:
    @Dahlia
    "I applaud your effort here but it won’t amount to much. The (((media))) pushed the narrative..."

    Slave mentality. Not to pick on this commenter, because this depressive fatalism is very common on the Right (might even be a Celtic thing), but this is not an attitude that is going to shake up the world, to say the least.

    ‘depressive fatalism’ a Celtic thing?

    Celtic myth does not have a Gotterdammerung. That type of culture-wide fatalism is Germanic.

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    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    Gotterdammerung sounds like a linebacker from the Big-1o. What is Maryland and Rutgers doing in the big-10?

    I'll use it in a sentence.

    The globalized central banks have engaged in unprecedented monetary extremism in order to avoid the Gotterdammerung of the global financial system.

    I say kill the current global financial system.

    https://youtu.be/wXh5JprKqiU
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  30. Jake says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Slave mentality. Not to pick on this commenter, because this depressive fatalism is very common on the Right (might even be a Celtic thing), but this is not an attitude that is going to shake up the world, to say the least.

     

    White Core Americans will be led to victory over the globalizers by leaders who think like William the Conqueror.

    The answer to 1984 is 1066.

    The internet says I have some Norman ancestry, so I'll think like William the Conqueror. I also have some Saxon surnames on my father's side.

    In one sense, William did see himself as advancing civilization, because he was a Francophone. And as he was out to defeat and then tame Anglo-Saxonism, and his main allies were the Celtic Bretons, his case may indeed be the most instructive to our potential salvation from what our WASP leaders and their Jewish allies have planned.

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  31. @Lot
    So you are going to invade England and massacre a quarter of the native population and dispossess the rest?

    So you are going to invade England and massacre a quarter of the native population and dispossess the rest?

    That’s a harrowing question.

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  32. Jake says:
    @JackOH
    OT, but somewhat related. Will Steve or another Unz writer take a look at Black Supremacism? My limited understanding of the subject is that Whites have delivered a triple whammy to Black folks. First, White folks stole the knowledge and wisdom of ancient Black Egypt. Second, White folks enslaved, transported to the New World, and stole the labor of sub-Saharan Blacks. Third, White folks destroyed flourishing Black African civilizations during the former's colonial period.

    I don't think most American Blacks actually subscribe to these ideas in a clearly articulated way, but a lot of American Blacks do believe sort of fuzzily that their grievances against American Whites have multiple tributaries.

    Back in the mid-1970s, I went with a black friend to the house of a black friend of his. The parents were middle class blacks, the mother with a Juco degree, the father with a high school diploma and a union job. They attended church every week – African Methodist Episcopal. They owned a modest brick house. None of the family had ever been convicted of a crime.

    Prominently displayed as their only living room coffee table boom was a huge volume on African cultural history. I perused the book and asked to borrow it – which they not only allowed, but were thrilled to do so. The book made all 3 of those ‘points.’ It painted a picture of blacks as having invented civilization, which whites stole from blacks. The conclusion did not cal for blacks to rise up and murder whites, but it did say that unless whites confessed their sins of racism and repented by giving it all back to blacks, that such a conflict probably would occur.

    All things considered, those blacks in that family were among the 10% – certainly 15% – top of their race. And that is how they thought about race.

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    Ben Carson had a painting of himself with black Jesus.
    , @JackOH
    Jake, thanks, and ditto, Alfa158. Steve, willing to take a shot at clarifying Black Supremacism? Anyone else?

    We're seeing HBD/IQ differences, White flight, and Black-on-White crime. Black folks are seeing as a political article of faith a historical mandate to recapture what they believe to be rightfully theirs. Are we that far apart?
    , @Ron Unz

    Prominently displayed as their only living room coffee table boom was a huge volume on African cultural history. I perused the book and asked to borrow it – which they not only allowed, but were thrilled to do so. The book made all 3 of those ‘points.’ It painted a picture of blacks as having invented civilization, which whites stole from blacks. The conclusion did not cal for blacks to rise up and murder whites, but it did say that unless whites confessed their sins of racism and repented by giving it all back to blacks, that such a conflict probably would occur.

    All things considered, those blacks in that family were among the 10% – certainly 15% – top of their race. And that is how they thought about race.
     
    Oddly enough, I think you and the other commenters are actually somewhat *underestimating* the unfortunate nature of our media-driven racial situation...

    As I've frequently pointed out in my articles, most Americans have a totally distorted view of the national demographics due to the totally ridiculous visual images and coverage provided by our news and entertainment media.

    Leading pollsters have demonstrated that the typical American believes that our population is roughly 30-35% black, rather than the true figure of just 12%. Furthermore, the average black believes that the U.S. is 40% black.

    And that black estimate applies to all blacks, including more middle class blacks living in overwhelmingly white areas. Meanwhile, a substantial fraction of the black population is poorly educated and lives in almost-all black neighborhoods, watches black TV, and almost surely believes that America is *majority* black.

    So a good fraction of American blacks not only believe that whites stole everything from them, but also that blacks actually represent America's majority, surely heightening their outrage that so few presidents and Supreme Court judges are black.

    Not a good recipe for social harmony...
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  33. MB says: • Website
    @Jack Hanson
    Officer Familia of the NYPD was killed cause of BLM, no?

    You may not have heard of her because the Narrative is seeing the Tsar under the bed and buried the story.

    Come on, this will not do. Let’s get our smears straight.
    It’s Boris and Natasha cause Rocky and Bullwinkle said so.

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  34. @Arclight
    Not sure - but at what point does the professional left realize that hugging BLM and Linda Sarsour is not a path back to power? Or are we about to get a full dose of both when Kamala Harris runs for president?

    They are going to run Kamela Harris and I will be here shaking my head at the eeyores telling us how polls with 15% MoEs show how Trump is doomed.

    Just like the Dems have one response to everything (Russia!), they think the magic in the bottle is running another biracial one term senator.

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    It will be a pretty unbearable election season in that case - obviously the entire media and political class are going to tee up the idea that anyone who doesn't want to vote for her is both racist and misogynist, and we'll hear it all day long.

    I will say that they are not totally off in planning to run a so-called person of color though - I think the lesson we can draw from '08, '12, and '16 is that without a black person at the top of the ticket, blacks revert to their traditional (relatively low) interest in national elections, and the Dems cannot afford that in OH, MI, PA and possibly WI.
    , @Boethiuss
    The chance the Trump is President and running for reelection by then, I say 50/50 at best.

    Like this latest bit. The substance of the thing is pretty minor to me, a nothingburger seems like as good a word as any. But it's pretty clear by now that Jr. lied about having never met with Russians, and somebody might care about that. We're going to be going around the mulberry bush over this for a while.

    And if enough GOP Congressmen bring impeachment over this or acquiesce to it, it's going to be even worse. Why can't we just go out and beat Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris like we're supposed to, without bring the circus to town?
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  35. @Lot
    So you are going to invade England and massacre a quarter of the native population and dispossess the rest?

    I know you’re being tongue in cheek but that’s likely what it will come to here.

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  36. Olorin says:

    I figured BLM was inflated by Democracy Alliance (etc.)–from its 2013 roots in the online rantings of three commie-inspired disgruntled black queers–into a campaign strategy for 2016.

    (See keywiki.org and DiscoverTheNetworks.org on the founding of BLM and its connections to various movements/organizations.)

    This strategy went badly in the court of public opinion when the one kind of polling met the other in November.

    We recall what Van Jones had to say about that on election night as he pondered a future where it might be harder to get richly remunerated for beating up white people on CNN/MSNBC. WorldStarHipHop for those with elite/establishment lefty pretensions.

    BLM’s idiots are no longer useful. The optics thought to bring voters to the Dems–burning down what others or others’ ancestors had built, blacks encouraged to act like the worst stereotypes of blacks–backfired. In part because there are a lot of us out here who lived through that sort of thing in the 1960s-1990s.

    Just because we’ve been silenced (by both parties and all independents) didn’t mean we were disappeared.

    BLM’s handlers and followers seemed genuinely shocked to find out how many Americans live outside their bubble.

    Besides, today you don’t lead with blackness, Steve. You put it on as a costume, e.g., “Antifa.” That protean multiple personality political mau-mau multi-tool that shows up where BLM used to.

    Some of BLM’s zombies still stagger around in academe trying to recruit new brains. But seems lately that the (mostly Boomer) profs and staffers who spurt to the old revolutionary porn are waiting for the “back to school fashion” issue of Leftist Agitator Quarterly.

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  37. @Jake
    Back in the mid-1970s, I went with a black friend to the house of a black friend of his. The parents were middle class blacks, the mother with a Juco degree, the father with a high school diploma and a union job. They attended church every week - African Methodist Episcopal. They owned a modest brick house. None of the family had ever been convicted of a crime.

    Prominently displayed as their only living room coffee table boom was a huge volume on African cultural history. I perused the book and asked to borrow it - which they not only allowed, but were thrilled to do so. The book made all 3 of those 'points.' It painted a picture of blacks as having invented civilization, which whites stole from blacks. The conclusion did not cal for blacks to rise up and murder whites, but it did say that unless whites confessed their sins of racism and repented by giving it all back to blacks, that such a conflict probably would occur.

    All things considered, those blacks in that family were among the 10% - certainly 15% - top of their race. And that is how they thought about race.

    Ben Carson had a painting of himself with black Jesus.

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  38. Olorin says:
    @notice
    I wish BLM could be provoked by an agent provacateur into protesting at many leading white-urban private schools on the grounds that they are emblematic of white privlege and de facto racial segregation. The more whites (all subsets of whites too) that are frightened by BLM, the better. Sidwell-Friends would be a perfect start.

    The Unitarian Universalists are taking the opposite tack, notice.

    I’d lay 14:1 that BLM is dead in the water on this fact alone:

    A friend reported that the Unitarian Universalist church in Olympia, WA, a few miles from Evergreen State College, last fall hung a huge BLM banner on the side of their giant house of self-worship in upscale West Olympia.

    When the yacht-owning globe-trotting Prius-and-Leaf-driving UUs embrace you, you’re way seriously mainstream.

    UUA Board of Trustees commits $5.3 million to Black Lives of UU/
    Historic decision to meet BLUU’s funding request will require fundraising, may draw on endowment.

    http://www.uuworld.org/articles/board-commits-5-million-bluu

    Note the date on that–October 17, 2016.

    The silly sods are doubling down on self-hating and movement toward congregational racial quotas. This from May:

    Two-thirds of UU congregations participate in White Supremacy Teach-In
    One of the largest joint efforts among congregations in recent history, organizers say.

    http://www.uuworld.org/articles/two-thirds-participate-teach

    In closing on this point, some dark comedy:

    http://www.uuworld.org/articles/two-uua-employees-robbed-new-orleans

    http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2017/06/french_quarter_beating_arrests.html

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  39. David says:
    @Lot
    So you are going to invade England and massacre a quarter of the native population and dispossess the rest?

    First I ever heard about W. the C. massacring 25% of the English populace. Source?

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    , @YetAnotherAnon
    Dunno about 25%, but this incident was pretty nasty. Historians differ on its toll, but a top figure was 5% of the then population.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrying_of_the_North
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  40. Arclight says:
    @Jack Hanson
    They are going to run Kamela Harris and I will be here shaking my head at the eeyores telling us how polls with 15% MoEs show how Trump is doomed.

    Just like the Dems have one response to everything (Russia!), they think the magic in the bottle is running another biracial one term senator.

    It will be a pretty unbearable election season in that case – obviously the entire media and political class are going to tee up the idea that anyone who doesn’t want to vote for her is both racist and misogynist, and we’ll hear it all day long.

    I will say that they are not totally off in planning to run a so-called person of color though – I think the lesson we can draw from ’08, ’12, and ’16 is that without a black person at the top of the ticket, blacks revert to their traditional (relatively low) interest in national elections, and the Dems cannot afford that in OH, MI, PA and possibly WI.

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    I think having a neck snapper like Harris who has a "Oh no you did in!" routine as her only response to every challenge is going to cement the Dems as the black party.
    , @Random Dude on the Internet
    Kamala Harris has been given many chances to make a name for herself these past few months and she has biffed every attempt. She has the right intersectional multipliers but with all the opportunities they've given her slipped through her fingers, it's not a good sign that she can be relied upon at the national stage even with the media working overtime to make her look good. I could see her embarrass herself even more than Hillary did at a hypothetical debate.

    My money is on America's Creepy Uncle. Obama can travel the nation with him and stump with him. It'll just be like old times! Then Trump cruises to another term when the DNC's pet minorities aren't buying Diamond Joe as being a suitable Obama surrogate.
    , @Boethiuss
    Everything depends on 2018. If the GOP can pick up a half-dozen Senators (and Congressmen), the Democrats will be very much demoralized. That said, they're looking pretty strong right now.
    , @Olorin
    My hunch: the Dems are going to double down on gender war.

    More in awhile. But for starters, see The Stranger's set of Whitman's Samplertastic political endorsements for the upcoming primary:

    http://www.thestranger.com/news/2017/07/12/25280819/the-strangers-endorsements-for-the-august-1-2017-primary-election
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  41. bomag says:
    @Anonymous
    OT: This is long, thorough article. And mind-boggling.

    http://nationalinterest.org/feature/ive-worked-refugees-decades-europes-afghan-crime-wave-mind-21506?page=4

    I've Worked with Refugees for Decades. Europe's Afghan Crime Wave Is Mind-Boggling.
    Afghans stand out among the refugees committing crimes in Austria and elsewhere. Why?

    Dr. Cheryl Benard
    July 11, 2017

    In 2014, when waves of refugees began flooding into western Europe, citizens and officials alike responded with generosity and openness. Exhausted refugees spilled out of trains and buses to be met by crowds bearing gifts of clothing and food, and holding up placards that read “Welcome Refugees.”

    This was a honeymoon that could not last. Some of the upcoming difficulties had been anticipated: that the newcomers did not speak the local languages, might be traumatized, would probably take a long time to find their footing, and had brought their ethnic, religious and sectarian conflicts with them, causing them to get into battles with each other. All of these things happened but—as Angela Merkel promised—were manageable. “Wir schaffen das.”

    [Read the rest here]

     

    Still, the reporter remains an immigrant booster; she just wants better law enforcement to make things work out.

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    They want a police state run by leftist elites like them where the laws only apply to the little people.
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  42. JackOH says:
    @Jake
    Back in the mid-1970s, I went with a black friend to the house of a black friend of his. The parents were middle class blacks, the mother with a Juco degree, the father with a high school diploma and a union job. They attended church every week - African Methodist Episcopal. They owned a modest brick house. None of the family had ever been convicted of a crime.

    Prominently displayed as their only living room coffee table boom was a huge volume on African cultural history. I perused the book and asked to borrow it - which they not only allowed, but were thrilled to do so. The book made all 3 of those 'points.' It painted a picture of blacks as having invented civilization, which whites stole from blacks. The conclusion did not cal for blacks to rise up and murder whites, but it did say that unless whites confessed their sins of racism and repented by giving it all back to blacks, that such a conflict probably would occur.

    All things considered, those blacks in that family were among the 10% - certainly 15% - top of their race. And that is how they thought about race.

    Jake, thanks, and ditto, Alfa158. Steve, willing to take a shot at clarifying Black Supremacism? Anyone else?

    We’re seeing HBD/IQ differences, White flight, and Black-on-White crime. Black folks are seeing as a political article of faith a historical mandate to recapture what they believe to be rightfully theirs. Are we that far apart?

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    We’re seeing HBD/IQ differences, White flight, and Black-on-White crime. Black folks are seeing as a political article of faith a historical mandate to recapture what they believe to be rightfully theirs. Are we that far apart?
     
    What?? Yeah, way far apart. They are wrong about what's rightfully theirs, and we are right about what's rightfully ours. I don't think you can be farther apart than that. If people would quit feeding them this BS, and they would quit believing what they could easily determine to be false, we might have more in common.
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  43. @Anonymous
    OT: This is long, thorough article. And mind-boggling.

    http://nationalinterest.org/feature/ive-worked-refugees-decades-europes-afghan-crime-wave-mind-21506?page=4

    I've Worked with Refugees for Decades. Europe's Afghan Crime Wave Is Mind-Boggling.
    Afghans stand out among the refugees committing crimes in Austria and elsewhere. Why?

    Dr. Cheryl Benard
    July 11, 2017

    In 2014, when waves of refugees began flooding into western Europe, citizens and officials alike responded with generosity and openness. Exhausted refugees spilled out of trains and buses to be met by crowds bearing gifts of clothing and food, and holding up placards that read “Welcome Refugees.”

    This was a honeymoon that could not last. Some of the upcoming difficulties had been anticipated: that the newcomers did not speak the local languages, might be traumatized, would probably take a long time to find their footing, and had brought their ethnic, religious and sectarian conflicts with them, causing them to get into battles with each other. All of these things happened but—as Angela Merkel promised—were manageable. “Wir schaffen das.”

    [Read the rest here]

     

    Good catch, and surprising – but here is the showstopper:

    Finally, the Left has to do a bit of hard thinking.

    There is no evidence that has ever happened. Or ever will – the Left is a collection of religious zealots.

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  44. @Dahlia
    "I applaud your effort here but it won’t amount to much. The (((media))) pushed the narrative..."

    Slave mentality. Not to pick on this commenter, because this depressive fatalism is very common on the Right (might even be a Celtic thing), but this is not an attitude that is going to shake up the world, to say the least.

    Agree.

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  45. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @David
    First I ever heard about W. the C. massacring 25% of the English populace. Source?

    UHHHHH the BIBLE?

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  46. @Jake
    'depressive fatalism' a Celtic thing?

    Celtic myth does not have a Gotterdammerung. That type of culture-wide fatalism is Germanic.

    Gotterdammerung sounds like a linebacker from the Big-1o. What is Maryland and Rutgers doing in the big-10?

    I’ll use it in a sentence.

    The globalized central banks have engaged in unprecedented monetary extremism in order to avoid the Gotterdammerung of the global financial system.

    I say kill the current global financial system.

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  47. @David
    First I ever heard about W. the C. massacring 25% of the English populace. Source?

    Dunno about 25%, but this incident was pretty nasty. Historians differ on its toll, but a top figure was 5% of the then population.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrying_of_the_North

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    Jeez, I never heard of this before! Thanks for referencing this about William the Conqueror - my family has claimed descendancy for a long time, so now I get to tell relatives about this!

    (Sure glad I wasn't around in 1069!)
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  48. @JackOH
    Jake, thanks, and ditto, Alfa158. Steve, willing to take a shot at clarifying Black Supremacism? Anyone else?

    We're seeing HBD/IQ differences, White flight, and Black-on-White crime. Black folks are seeing as a political article of faith a historical mandate to recapture what they believe to be rightfully theirs. Are we that far apart?

    We’re seeing HBD/IQ differences, White flight, and Black-on-White crime. Black folks are seeing as a political article of faith a historical mandate to recapture what they believe to be rightfully theirs. Are we that far apart?

    What?? Yeah, way far apart. They are wrong about what’s rightfully theirs, and we are right about what’s rightfully ours. I don’t think you can be farther apart than that. If people would quit feeding them this BS, and they would quit believing what they could easily determine to be false, we might have more in common.

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  49. This is calling for a Gilbert & Sullivan parody, but I don’t really have time now…

    There’s the negro BLMers
    And the others of their race;
    The Muzzy terrorist–I’ve got him on the list!
    The Antifa protesters
    Who throw bottles in your face;
    They’d none of ‘em be missed,
    They’d none of ‘em be missed!

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  50. Barnard says:
    @bomag
    Still, the reporter remains an immigrant booster; she just wants better law enforcement to make things work out.

    They want a police state run by leftist elites like them where the laws only apply to the little people.

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  51. @YetAnotherAnon
    Dunno about 25%, but this incident was pretty nasty. Historians differ on its toll, but a top figure was 5% of the then population.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrying_of_the_North

    Jeez, I never heard of this before! Thanks for referencing this about William the Conqueror – my family has claimed descendancy for a long time, so now I get to tell relatives about this!

    (Sure glad I wasn’t around in 1069!)

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  52. @Arclight
    It will be a pretty unbearable election season in that case - obviously the entire media and political class are going to tee up the idea that anyone who doesn't want to vote for her is both racist and misogynist, and we'll hear it all day long.

    I will say that they are not totally off in planning to run a so-called person of color though - I think the lesson we can draw from '08, '12, and '16 is that without a black person at the top of the ticket, blacks revert to their traditional (relatively low) interest in national elections, and the Dems cannot afford that in OH, MI, PA and possibly WI.

    I think having a neck snapper like Harris who has a “Oh no you did in!” routine as her only response to every challenge is going to cement the Dems as the black party.

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  53. KenH says:
    @WGG
    I applaud your effort here but it won't amount to much. The (((media))) pushed the narrative that innocent blacks were being systematically hunted down in the streets en masse by white police forces. Blacks and MSNBC watching whites actually believe there is a massive Wounded Knee massacre going on in the country every day. These people are too uninformed, and the meme is just too convenient. They will cling to this myth forever, like other racial victim myths of the past.

    Any amount of bad behavior on the part of these Neo Wounded Knee victims will be justified as legitimate resistance. Facts don't matter, and civil war is coming.

    Blacks and MSNBC watching whites actually believe there is a massive Wounded Knee massacre going on in the country every day.

    It defies reason, but they do believe “innocent” black men are being stalked and killed by white cops on a daily basis. It was a false narrative created by the (((MSM))) to energize and galvanize blacks and self hating whites so they would flock to the polls in record numbers in 2016.

    Years ago I had a college educated black coworker claim that millions of atrocities are being committed against blacks every year. I challenged him on his bold claim and demanded he cite a few examples and he got mad and couldn’t.

    The fact that blacks believe EVERYTHING they are told by black and other racial demagogues without verifying facts for themselves will ensure civil war. It’s only a matter of when.

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  54. @Arclight
    It will be a pretty unbearable election season in that case - obviously the entire media and political class are going to tee up the idea that anyone who doesn't want to vote for her is both racist and misogynist, and we'll hear it all day long.

    I will say that they are not totally off in planning to run a so-called person of color though - I think the lesson we can draw from '08, '12, and '16 is that without a black person at the top of the ticket, blacks revert to their traditional (relatively low) interest in national elections, and the Dems cannot afford that in OH, MI, PA and possibly WI.

    Kamala Harris has been given many chances to make a name for herself these past few months and she has biffed every attempt. She has the right intersectional multipliers but with all the opportunities they’ve given her slipped through her fingers, it’s not a good sign that she can be relied upon at the national stage even with the media working overtime to make her look good. I could see her embarrass herself even more than Hillary did at a hypothetical debate.

    My money is on America’s Creepy Uncle. Obama can travel the nation with him and stump with him. It’ll just be like old times! Then Trump cruises to another term when the DNC’s pet minorities aren’t buying Diamond Joe as being a suitable Obama surrogate.

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  55. Boethiuss says:
    @Jack Hanson
    They are going to run Kamela Harris and I will be here shaking my head at the eeyores telling us how polls with 15% MoEs show how Trump is doomed.

    Just like the Dems have one response to everything (Russia!), they think the magic in the bottle is running another biracial one term senator.

    The chance the Trump is President and running for reelection by then, I say 50/50 at best.

    Like this latest bit. The substance of the thing is pretty minor to me, a nothingburger seems like as good a word as any. But it’s pretty clear by now that Jr. lied about having never met with Russians, and somebody might care about that. We’re going to be going around the mulberry bush over this for a while.

    And if enough GOP Congressmen bring impeachment over this or acquiesce to it, it’s going to be even worse. Why can’t we just go out and beat Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris like we’re supposed to, without bring the circus to town?

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    More expert commentary from the guy who said "Trump is doomed" at every turn.

    An ego so massive even being embarrassingly wrong couldn't keep you away.
    , @Lot
    Don Jr. may have lied on twitter or interviews, but he is not in government. Jared lied or "forgot" the hillary dirt meeting on his security clearance form.

    Agnostic has an interesting take that while Jared and Ivanka may be pulling Trump left, at least they are loyal to him, and if replaced it would likely be by GOPe guys who would be happier with impeachment and Pence.
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  56. Boethiuss says:
    @Arclight
    It will be a pretty unbearable election season in that case - obviously the entire media and political class are going to tee up the idea that anyone who doesn't want to vote for her is both racist and misogynist, and we'll hear it all day long.

    I will say that they are not totally off in planning to run a so-called person of color though - I think the lesson we can draw from '08, '12, and '16 is that without a black person at the top of the ticket, blacks revert to their traditional (relatively low) interest in national elections, and the Dems cannot afford that in OH, MI, PA and possibly WI.

    Everything depends on 2018. If the GOP can pick up a half-dozen Senators (and Congressmen), the Democrats will be very much demoralized. That said, they’re looking pretty strong right now.

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  57. Boethiuss says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Not sure – but at what point does the professional left realize that hugging BLM and Linda Sarsour is not a path back to power? Or are we about to get a full dose of both when Kamala Harris runs for president?

     

    The Democrat Party is picking up an electoral non-White voter cohort quarter in front of an oncoming White Core American voter steamroller. The Democrat Party will be flattened.

    The Democrat Party is picking up an electoral non-White voter cohort quarter in front of an oncoming White Core American voter steamroller. The Democrat Party will be flattened.

    That’s likely to be the case if the Right can put together an enduring conservative/populist coalition. Unfortunately neither side has really committed to such a thing, because Trump.

    But hey, maybe we want to spend all our time going back and forth over Mika’s failed facelift. It’s not like there’s anything else worth our attention, right?

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  58. Ron Unz says:
    @Jake
    Back in the mid-1970s, I went with a black friend to the house of a black friend of his. The parents were middle class blacks, the mother with a Juco degree, the father with a high school diploma and a union job. They attended church every week - African Methodist Episcopal. They owned a modest brick house. None of the family had ever been convicted of a crime.

    Prominently displayed as their only living room coffee table boom was a huge volume on African cultural history. I perused the book and asked to borrow it - which they not only allowed, but were thrilled to do so. The book made all 3 of those 'points.' It painted a picture of blacks as having invented civilization, which whites stole from blacks. The conclusion did not cal for blacks to rise up and murder whites, but it did say that unless whites confessed their sins of racism and repented by giving it all back to blacks, that such a conflict probably would occur.

    All things considered, those blacks in that family were among the 10% - certainly 15% - top of their race. And that is how they thought about race.

    Prominently displayed as their only living room coffee table boom was a huge volume on African cultural history. I perused the book and asked to borrow it – which they not only allowed, but were thrilled to do so. The book made all 3 of those ‘points.’ It painted a picture of blacks as having invented civilization, which whites stole from blacks. The conclusion did not cal for blacks to rise up and murder whites, but it did say that unless whites confessed their sins of racism and repented by giving it all back to blacks, that such a conflict probably would occur.

    All things considered, those blacks in that family were among the 10% – certainly 15% – top of their race. And that is how they thought about race.

    Oddly enough, I think you and the other commenters are actually somewhat *underestimating* the unfortunate nature of our media-driven racial situation…

    As I’ve frequently pointed out in my articles, most Americans have a totally distorted view of the national demographics due to the totally ridiculous visual images and coverage provided by our news and entertainment media.

    Leading pollsters have demonstrated that the typical American believes that our population is roughly 30-35% black, rather than the true figure of just 12%. Furthermore, the average black believes that the U.S. is 40% black.

    And that black estimate applies to all blacks, including more middle class blacks living in overwhelmingly white areas. Meanwhile, a substantial fraction of the black population is poorly educated and lives in almost-all black neighborhoods, watches black TV, and almost surely believes that America is *majority* black.

    So a good fraction of American blacks not only believe that whites stole everything from them, but also that blacks actually represent America’s majority, surely heightening their outrage that so few presidents and Supreme Court judges are black.

    Not a good recipe for social harmony…

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    Ron, do you see any value in laying out a case that Black Supremacism as political dogma is an unrecognized animating force among many American Blacks? I think Steve has the chops for such a piece, but not sure if he has the time or interest.
    , @Barnard
    I think I already know the answer, but how can this be possible? Do most blacks literally not know the definition of the word minority?
    , @Lot
    There are methodologal problems with such polls. You get the same silly answer for percentage gay.

    You cannot just ask what percentage is X, you have to ask for all races together.

    It is like those polls about foreign aid budget where people guess at 20% when it is under 1%. You would likely get a gross overestimate for almost every item in the fed budget outside of entitlements, defense, and debt interest.

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  59. JackOH says:
    @Ron Unz

    Prominently displayed as their only living room coffee table boom was a huge volume on African cultural history. I perused the book and asked to borrow it – which they not only allowed, but were thrilled to do so. The book made all 3 of those ‘points.’ It painted a picture of blacks as having invented civilization, which whites stole from blacks. The conclusion did not cal for blacks to rise up and murder whites, but it did say that unless whites confessed their sins of racism and repented by giving it all back to blacks, that such a conflict probably would occur.

    All things considered, those blacks in that family were among the 10% – certainly 15% – top of their race. And that is how they thought about race.
     
    Oddly enough, I think you and the other commenters are actually somewhat *underestimating* the unfortunate nature of our media-driven racial situation...

    As I've frequently pointed out in my articles, most Americans have a totally distorted view of the national demographics due to the totally ridiculous visual images and coverage provided by our news and entertainment media.

    Leading pollsters have demonstrated that the typical American believes that our population is roughly 30-35% black, rather than the true figure of just 12%. Furthermore, the average black believes that the U.S. is 40% black.

    And that black estimate applies to all blacks, including more middle class blacks living in overwhelmingly white areas. Meanwhile, a substantial fraction of the black population is poorly educated and lives in almost-all black neighborhoods, watches black TV, and almost surely believes that America is *majority* black.

    So a good fraction of American blacks not only believe that whites stole everything from them, but also that blacks actually represent America's majority, surely heightening their outrage that so few presidents and Supreme Court judges are black.

    Not a good recipe for social harmony...

    Ron, do you see any value in laying out a case that Black Supremacism as political dogma is an unrecognized animating force among many American Blacks? I think Steve has the chops for such a piece, but not sure if he has the time or interest.

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  60. Barnard says:
    @Ron Unz

    Prominently displayed as their only living room coffee table boom was a huge volume on African cultural history. I perused the book and asked to borrow it – which they not only allowed, but were thrilled to do so. The book made all 3 of those ‘points.’ It painted a picture of blacks as having invented civilization, which whites stole from blacks. The conclusion did not cal for blacks to rise up and murder whites, but it did say that unless whites confessed their sins of racism and repented by giving it all back to blacks, that such a conflict probably would occur.

    All things considered, those blacks in that family were among the 10% – certainly 15% – top of their race. And that is how they thought about race.
     
    Oddly enough, I think you and the other commenters are actually somewhat *underestimating* the unfortunate nature of our media-driven racial situation...

    As I've frequently pointed out in my articles, most Americans have a totally distorted view of the national demographics due to the totally ridiculous visual images and coverage provided by our news and entertainment media.

    Leading pollsters have demonstrated that the typical American believes that our population is roughly 30-35% black, rather than the true figure of just 12%. Furthermore, the average black believes that the U.S. is 40% black.

    And that black estimate applies to all blacks, including more middle class blacks living in overwhelmingly white areas. Meanwhile, a substantial fraction of the black population is poorly educated and lives in almost-all black neighborhoods, watches black TV, and almost surely believes that America is *majority* black.

    So a good fraction of American blacks not only believe that whites stole everything from them, but also that blacks actually represent America's majority, surely heightening their outrage that so few presidents and Supreme Court judges are black.

    Not a good recipe for social harmony...

    I think I already know the answer, but how can this be possible? Do most blacks literally not know the definition of the word minority?

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  61. @Boethiuss
    The chance the Trump is President and running for reelection by then, I say 50/50 at best.

    Like this latest bit. The substance of the thing is pretty minor to me, a nothingburger seems like as good a word as any. But it's pretty clear by now that Jr. lied about having never met with Russians, and somebody might care about that. We're going to be going around the mulberry bush over this for a while.

    And if enough GOP Congressmen bring impeachment over this or acquiesce to it, it's going to be even worse. Why can't we just go out and beat Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris like we're supposed to, without bring the circus to town?

    More expert commentary from the guy who said “Trump is doomed” at every turn.

    An ego so massive even being embarrassingly wrong couldn’t keep you away.

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    More expert commentary from the guy who said “Trump is doomed” at every turn.

    An ego so massive even being embarrassingly wrong couldn’t keep you away.
     
    Yeah right. Today is Thursday so Trump has it all under under control except the complaints of random whiners. Tomorrow is Friday, so by then, the people who hold the megaphone are going to be sending us all to the gulag, right Jack?
    , @Boethiuss

    More expert commentary from the guy who said “Trump is doomed” at every turn.
     
    And while we're at it let's also note that Trump's problems for us don't end if he wins, they're just beginning, and I said that a long time ago.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/wisconsin-postmortem/#comment-1383797


    But really, that’s ancillary. You should understand your premises more clearly than you apparently do. The idea being you (you and Yojimbo both) think that the negative on Trump is lack of electability and he’s ok otherwise. No. It is true that Trump is not electable but that’s only one of the strikes against him, and not the most important one at that.
     
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  62. Boethiuss says:
    @Jack Hanson
    More expert commentary from the guy who said "Trump is doomed" at every turn.

    An ego so massive even being embarrassingly wrong couldn't keep you away.

    More expert commentary from the guy who said “Trump is doomed” at every turn.

    An ego so massive even being embarrassingly wrong couldn’t keep you away.

    Yeah right. Today is Thursday so Trump has it all under under control except the complaints of random whiners. Tomorrow is Friday, so by then, the people who hold the megaphone are going to be sending us all to the gulag, right Jack?

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    You're knocked so off base by mention of your Posting Career that you can't even make a coherent reply.

    And on Saturday Trump gunna be impeached, right? Lawl.
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  63. Boethiuss says:
    @Jack Hanson
    More expert commentary from the guy who said "Trump is doomed" at every turn.

    An ego so massive even being embarrassingly wrong couldn't keep you away.

    More expert commentary from the guy who said “Trump is doomed” at every turn.

    And while we’re at it let’s also note that Trump’s problems for us don’t end if he wins, they’re just beginning, and I said that a long time ago.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/wisconsin-postmortem/#comment-1383797

    But really, that’s ancillary. You should understand your premises more clearly than you apparently do. The idea being you (you and Yojimbo both) think that the negative on Trump is lack of electability and he’s ok otherwise. No. It is true that Trump is not electable but that’s only one of the strikes against him, and not the most important one at that.

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  64. Lot says:
    @Boethiuss
    The chance the Trump is President and running for reelection by then, I say 50/50 at best.

    Like this latest bit. The substance of the thing is pretty minor to me, a nothingburger seems like as good a word as any. But it's pretty clear by now that Jr. lied about having never met with Russians, and somebody might care about that. We're going to be going around the mulberry bush over this for a while.

    And if enough GOP Congressmen bring impeachment over this or acquiesce to it, it's going to be even worse. Why can't we just go out and beat Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris like we're supposed to, without bring the circus to town?

    Don Jr. may have lied on twitter or interviews, but he is not in government. Jared lied or “forgot” the hillary dirt meeting on his security clearance form.

    Agnostic has an interesting take that while Jared and Ivanka may be pulling Trump left, at least they are loyal to him, and if replaced it would likely be by GOPe guys who would be happier with impeachment and Pence.

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    Agnostic has an interesting take that while Jared and Ivanka may be pulling Trump left, at least they are loyal to him, and if replaced it would likely be by GOPe guys who would be happier with impeachment and Pence.
     
    We'd be way better off with GOPe and Pence than we are with the clown car we've got now, that's the whole point.

    The liberal pundit Josh Marshall has a theory that the Trumps are mistaking DOJ's prosecutors (and Washington as a whole for that matter) with the incestuous NY business world. DOJ career prosecutors are in their own bubble, and don't care who gets trashed in Page Six. All the more so now that Mueller is effectively unfireable. Got this from RCP:

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-big-trumpers-still-dont-get-the-trouble-theyre-in

    In any event, like many of the commenters here, you're looking at things in narrow way. As things stand and based on the info we currently have, it seems to me that that the Administration will beat any criminal liability. But that's not the only problem here, or even the most important.

    Trump, Trump family and Trump surrogates (eg, Jr.) have led us to believe for several months that there were no contacts at all with Russians with respect to getting Hillary oppo. Now we know that's a lie. GOP Senators and Congressmen have less reason now than ever to believe Trump, and ultimately they're going to be the ones responsible for keeping him in office. It's really hard to expect Cory Gardner or whoever to play hard for the team when they don't even know what they're supposed to be defending.

    This Administration is in danger of being hung for jaywalking, and if it happens it will only be their fault.
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  65. Lot says:
    @Ron Unz

    Prominently displayed as their only living room coffee table boom was a huge volume on African cultural history. I perused the book and asked to borrow it – which they not only allowed, but were thrilled to do so. The book made all 3 of those ‘points.’ It painted a picture of blacks as having invented civilization, which whites stole from blacks. The conclusion did not cal for blacks to rise up and murder whites, but it did say that unless whites confessed their sins of racism and repented by giving it all back to blacks, that such a conflict probably would occur.

    All things considered, those blacks in that family were among the 10% – certainly 15% – top of their race. And that is how they thought about race.
     
    Oddly enough, I think you and the other commenters are actually somewhat *underestimating* the unfortunate nature of our media-driven racial situation...

    As I've frequently pointed out in my articles, most Americans have a totally distorted view of the national demographics due to the totally ridiculous visual images and coverage provided by our news and entertainment media.

    Leading pollsters have demonstrated that the typical American believes that our population is roughly 30-35% black, rather than the true figure of just 12%. Furthermore, the average black believes that the U.S. is 40% black.

    And that black estimate applies to all blacks, including more middle class blacks living in overwhelmingly white areas. Meanwhile, a substantial fraction of the black population is poorly educated and lives in almost-all black neighborhoods, watches black TV, and almost surely believes that America is *majority* black.

    So a good fraction of American blacks not only believe that whites stole everything from them, but also that blacks actually represent America's majority, surely heightening their outrage that so few presidents and Supreme Court judges are black.

    Not a good recipe for social harmony...

    There are methodologal problems with such polls. You get the same silly answer for percentage gay.

    You cannot just ask what percentage is X, you have to ask for all races together.

    It is like those polls about foreign aid budget where people guess at 20% when it is under 1%. You would likely get a gross overestimate for almost every item in the fed budget outside of entitlements, defense, and debt interest.

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    There are methodologal problems with such polls. You get the same silly answer for percentage gay.
     
    Well, duh. Most Americans are pretty innumerate. And given that the upthread discussion was that a large fraction of lower-class blacks believe that their ancestors in Africa originally created human civilization before it was stolen by the evil whites, why wouldn't you expect them to be a little fuzzy about population statistics?

    But the objective evidence seems to suggest that if you asked lower-class blacks what fraction of America's population was black, they'd probably say half or more. Since so many of them live in 90% black areas and mostly watch 90% black TV shows and never read any books or newspapers, why should this be surprising?
    , @Boethiuss
    Oh yeah, here's another point for those of you want defend Trump by bashing cucks, GOPe, etc.
    There's an excellent analysis from Alan Dershowitz of all people explaining the legality of the Trump campaign's use of Wikileaks and other Clinton oppo:

    https://twitter.com/FoxBusiness/status/885200860677984257

    I've read similar things from Jonathan Turley. Of course, Dershowitz and Hurley are not dominating the media narrative, which is heavily anti-Trump. Why aren't the GOPe arguing these things themselves?

    Because Donald Trump and his surrogates have been arguing for six months that there was no contact between them and any Russians related to Clinton oppo.

    This is a horrible strategic move by Trump, probably hoping to win or draw a couple news cycles long forgotten. And now he needs to avoid a couple breaks to avoid criminal charges or impeachment.

    There are some things that Trump or the Trump campaign could have done that would make impeachment a slamdunk. Ie, if Trump actually was personally or closely involved with the Wikileaks hacking. Or if Trump was personally or closely involved with hacking the actual machinery of the election. Or if Trump made a quid pro quo for direct financial compensation to him in exchange for US policy changes. Eg, if he and Putin cut a deal where Russia pays Trump $1 billion and in return Trump dumps Ukraine sanctions.

    There's going to be allegations of this sort of thing, there already are. There's no credible support for any of it that I can see. But even so, it's going to be hard for the GOP to defend him, even if he's innocent, because he just burned them.
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  66. vx37 says:

    BLM – astroturf. Pretty much disappeared once Hilary got the nomination. Course some people never get the word.

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  67. @Boethiuss

    More expert commentary from the guy who said “Trump is doomed” at every turn.

    An ego so massive even being embarrassingly wrong couldn’t keep you away.
     
    Yeah right. Today is Thursday so Trump has it all under under control except the complaints of random whiners. Tomorrow is Friday, so by then, the people who hold the megaphone are going to be sending us all to the gulag, right Jack?

    You’re knocked so off base by mention of your Posting Career that you can’t even make a coherent reply.

    And on Saturday Trump gunna be impeached, right? Lawl.

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  68. Boethiuss says:
    @Lot
    Don Jr. may have lied on twitter or interviews, but he is not in government. Jared lied or "forgot" the hillary dirt meeting on his security clearance form.

    Agnostic has an interesting take that while Jared and Ivanka may be pulling Trump left, at least they are loyal to him, and if replaced it would likely be by GOPe guys who would be happier with impeachment and Pence.

    Agnostic has an interesting take that while Jared and Ivanka may be pulling Trump left, at least they are loyal to him, and if replaced it would likely be by GOPe guys who would be happier with impeachment and Pence.

    We’d be way better off with GOPe and Pence than we are with the clown car we’ve got now, that’s the whole point.

    The liberal pundit Josh Marshall has a theory that the Trumps are mistaking DOJ’s prosecutors (and Washington as a whole for that matter) with the incestuous NY business world. DOJ career prosecutors are in their own bubble, and don’t care who gets trashed in Page Six. All the more so now that Mueller is effectively unfireable. Got this from RCP:

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-big-trumpers-still-dont-get-the-trouble-theyre-in

    In any event, like many of the commenters here, you’re looking at things in narrow way. As things stand and based on the info we currently have, it seems to me that that the Administration will beat any criminal liability. But that’s not the only problem here, or even the most important.

    Trump, Trump family and Trump surrogates (eg, Jr.) have led us to believe for several months that there were no contacts at all with Russians with respect to getting Hillary oppo. Now we know that’s a lie. GOP Senators and Congressmen have less reason now than ever to believe Trump, and ultimately they’re going to be the ones responsible for keeping him in office. It’s really hard to expect Cory Gardner or whoever to play hard for the team when they don’t even know what they’re supposed to be defending.

    This Administration is in danger of being hung for jaywalking, and if it happens it will only be their fault.

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  69. Ron Unz says:
    @Lot
    There are methodologal problems with such polls. You get the same silly answer for percentage gay.

    You cannot just ask what percentage is X, you have to ask for all races together.

    It is like those polls about foreign aid budget where people guess at 20% when it is under 1%. You would likely get a gross overestimate for almost every item in the fed budget outside of entitlements, defense, and debt interest.

    There are methodologal problems with such polls. You get the same silly answer for percentage gay.

    Well, duh. Most Americans are pretty innumerate. And given that the upthread discussion was that a large fraction of lower-class blacks believe that their ancestors in Africa originally created human civilization before it was stolen by the evil whites, why wouldn’t you expect them to be a little fuzzy about population statistics?

    But the objective evidence seems to suggest that if you asked lower-class blacks what fraction of America’s population was black, they’d probably say half or more. Since so many of them live in 90% black areas and mostly watch 90% black TV shows and never read any books or newspapers, why should this be surprising?

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  70. Boethiuss says:
    @Lot
    There are methodologal problems with such polls. You get the same silly answer for percentage gay.

    You cannot just ask what percentage is X, you have to ask for all races together.

    It is like those polls about foreign aid budget where people guess at 20% when it is under 1%. You would likely get a gross overestimate for almost every item in the fed budget outside of entitlements, defense, and debt interest.

    Oh yeah, here’s another point for those of you want defend Trump by bashing cucks, GOPe, etc.
    There’s an excellent analysis from Alan Dershowitz of all people explaining the legality of the Trump campaign’s use of Wikileaks and other Clinton oppo:

    I’ve read similar things from Jonathan Turley. Of course, Dershowitz and Hurley are not dominating the media narrative, which is heavily anti-Trump. Why aren’t the GOPe arguing these things themselves?

    Because Donald Trump and his surrogates have been arguing for six months that there was no contact between them and any Russians related to Clinton oppo.

    This is a horrible strategic move by Trump, probably hoping to win or draw a couple news cycles long forgotten. And now he needs to avoid a couple breaks to avoid criminal charges or impeachment.

    There are some things that Trump or the Trump campaign could have done that would make impeachment a slamdunk. Ie, if Trump actually was personally or closely involved with the Wikileaks hacking. Or if Trump was personally or closely involved with hacking the actual machinery of the election. Or if Trump made a quid pro quo for direct financial compensation to him in exchange for US policy changes. Eg, if he and Putin cut a deal where Russia pays Trump $1 billion and in return Trump dumps Ukraine sanctions.

    There’s going to be allegations of this sort of thing, there already are. There’s no credible support for any of it that I can see. But even so, it’s going to be hard for the GOP to defend him, even if he’s innocent, because he just burned them.

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    "Trump is surely doomed now."

    Congrats, you're reduced to quoting ironic memes seriously.
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  71. @Boethiuss
    Oh yeah, here's another point for those of you want defend Trump by bashing cucks, GOPe, etc.
    There's an excellent analysis from Alan Dershowitz of all people explaining the legality of the Trump campaign's use of Wikileaks and other Clinton oppo:

    https://twitter.com/FoxBusiness/status/885200860677984257

    I've read similar things from Jonathan Turley. Of course, Dershowitz and Hurley are not dominating the media narrative, which is heavily anti-Trump. Why aren't the GOPe arguing these things themselves?

    Because Donald Trump and his surrogates have been arguing for six months that there was no contact between them and any Russians related to Clinton oppo.

    This is a horrible strategic move by Trump, probably hoping to win or draw a couple news cycles long forgotten. And now he needs to avoid a couple breaks to avoid criminal charges or impeachment.

    There are some things that Trump or the Trump campaign could have done that would make impeachment a slamdunk. Ie, if Trump actually was personally or closely involved with the Wikileaks hacking. Or if Trump was personally or closely involved with hacking the actual machinery of the election. Or if Trump made a quid pro quo for direct financial compensation to him in exchange for US policy changes. Eg, if he and Putin cut a deal where Russia pays Trump $1 billion and in return Trump dumps Ukraine sanctions.

    There's going to be allegations of this sort of thing, there already are. There's no credible support for any of it that I can see. But even so, it's going to be hard for the GOP to defend him, even if he's innocent, because he just burned them.

    “Trump is surely doomed now.”

    Congrats, you’re reduced to quoting ironic memes seriously.

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    “Trump is surely doomed now.”
     
    I don't know who you're supposed to be quoting, but it isn't me. I can't find those words in anything I have written, and in any event I care about our success, our fate, our nation, and much less about whatever happens to Mr. Trump.

    You have either pretended to believe or have deceived yourself that they are substantially the same thing, but they're not. Among other things, President Trump doesn't think they are. When the heat gets turned up, Mr. Trump is going to look our for Number One, and that's not us.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/13/emmanuel-macron-says-obvious-indispensable-have-exchanges-donald/

    Next week, we'll see "I support a wall across the southern border? Silly me, I must have misspoke. I meant that I oppose a wall across the southern border."
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  72. Boethiuss says:
    @Jack Hanson
    "Trump is surely doomed now."

    Congrats, you're reduced to quoting ironic memes seriously.

    “Trump is surely doomed now.”

    I don’t know who you’re supposed to be quoting, but it isn’t me. I can’t find those words in anything I have written, and in any event I care about our success, our fate, our nation, and much less about whatever happens to Mr. Trump.

    You have either pretended to believe or have deceived yourself that they are substantially the same thing, but they’re not. Among other things, President Trump doesn’t think they are. When the heat gets turned up, Mr. Trump is going to look our for Number One, and that’s not us.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/13/emmanuel-macron-says-obvious-indispensable-have-exchanges-donald/

    Next week, we’ll see “I support a wall across the southern border? Silly me, I must have misspoke. I meant that I oppose a wall across the southern border.”

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  73. Olorin says:
    @Arclight
    It will be a pretty unbearable election season in that case - obviously the entire media and political class are going to tee up the idea that anyone who doesn't want to vote for her is both racist and misogynist, and we'll hear it all day long.

    I will say that they are not totally off in planning to run a so-called person of color though - I think the lesson we can draw from '08, '12, and '16 is that without a black person at the top of the ticket, blacks revert to their traditional (relatively low) interest in national elections, and the Dems cannot afford that in OH, MI, PA and possibly WI.

    My hunch: the Dems are going to double down on gender war.

    More in awhile. But for starters, see The Stranger‘s set of Whitman’s Samplertastic political endorsements for the upcoming primary:

    http://www.thestranger.com/news/2017/07/12/25280819/the-strangers-endorsements-for-the-august-1-2017-primary-election

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