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From S.F. Gate:

Junipero Serra statue beheaded, splashed with red paint in Central California

By Alyssa Pereira, SFGATE Published 1:25 pm, September 12, 2017

A bronze statue of the Roman Catholic priest Junipero Serra at the Old Santa Barbara Mission was decapitated and doused with red paint on Sunday night or early Monday morning.

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Pope Francis of Argentina canonized Father Serra, 18th Century founder of the California Missions, in 2015. But as I pointed out, the Pope is falling behind the times.

Pope Not Up to Date on His “Who? Whom?” Rankings
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From ABC News:

Why Pope Francis’ Canonization of Junipero Serra Is So Controversial

Sure, Father Serra is Hispanic (like the Italian-Argentinean Pope, who thought he was making a statement against immigration enforcement in the U.S.).

But Serra was white.

These days, things aren’t really all that complicated.

 
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  1. If the statue ain’t gots no fro, it gots to go.

    If the statue ain’t got no Amerindian head, paint the damn thing red.

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  2. But Serra was white.

    There are plenty of full blooded spaniards who I wouldn’t consider white (although some would). I don’t know how accurate any existing depiction of him actually is.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    There are plenty of full blooded spaniards who I wouldn’t consider white
     
    Ah, looks like someone wants to play Rassenpapst......
  3. Gee, what will the California RCC say about this????? It is the RCC’s mission to convert the world to Catholicism. Fascinating.

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    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    attilathehen:

    With regard to your statement that it is the Roman Catholic Church's mission to convert the world to Catholicism, I've got unpleasant news for you.

    According to the current Bishop of Rome (as Bergoglio self-identifies himself), it doesn't matter your religion is as long as you subscribe to his own quirky, self-aggrandizing and often contradictory notions which are oftentimes in contradiction to established Catholicism.
  4. songbird says:

    One of the kind of eerie parts of Camp of the Saints was when the author said that the Pope was Brazilian and had been elected because he was not European. Francis is obviously white and from Argentina, really the latest of the many ethnically Italian popes, but, in a subdued sense, I feel like the same type of political malaise that was the theme of the book was responsible for him getting elected. Francis being an advocate of mass Muslim immigration to Europe is really the major tie in, though.

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  5. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    It’s not because he was white. It’s because he’s believed to have imposed a foreign religion and culture by force. For whatever reason, people in America generally don’t conceive of white Hispanics as being “white” like typical white Americans, presumably because of the largely northern European background of most white Americans. It’s why guys like Antonio Banderas have a bug up their butts:

    “Residents’ board of Lennon’s iconic Dakota Building sued for racism after turning down Antonio Banderas ‘because he is Hispanic’”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1352944/Antonio-Banderas-Roberta-Flack-named-racism-lawsuit-Dakota-Building-New-York.html

    “Platino Awards: Antonio Banderas Calls for a Latino Studio to ‘Steal Hollywood From Hollywood’”

    https://www.yahoo.com/movies/platino-awards-antonio-banderas-calls-latino-studio-steal-201557626.html

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    For whatever reason, people in America generally don’t conceive of white Hispanics as being “white” like typical white Americans, presumably because of the largely northern European background of most white Americans.
     
    Actually, it has to do with the fact that lots of "White" Latin Americans have substantial quantities of Amerind ancestry. And some of the more ignorant members of Anglo-American society tend to confuse Iberia with her former colonies.

    Of course, nowadays, as demonstrated by Senor Banderas, White Hispanics are quite eager to claim POC status. It's a good career move (vede Steve's numerous musings on the Flight from White).

  6. Dan Hayes says:
    @attilathehen
    Gee, what will the California RCC say about this????? It is the RCC's mission to convert the world to Catholicism. Fascinating.

    attilathehen:

    With regard to your statement that it is the Roman Catholic Church’s mission to convert the world to Catholicism, I’ve got unpleasant news for you.

    According to the current Bishop of Rome (as Bergoglio self-identifies himself), it doesn’t matter your religion is as long as you subscribe to his own quirky, self-aggrandizing and often contradictory notions which are oftentimes in contradiction to established Catholicism.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    It's so fascinating because the USA RCC wanted the illegals from Mexico and Central America to strengthen the RCC. I recall reading about some idiot bishop saying that Hispanics would teach Americans how to be RCC. Serra was white so this discombulates the RCC. I'm aware of pope Frannie's pronouncements, but the RCC cathecism has not been changed so the RCC must still evangelize. I was a cradle RCCer but left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. I read today that the USA bishops filed an amicus curiae brief arguing against Trump's ban on refugees from Muslim nations. They said it's discrimination. WOW!!! I wonder how all this will end...
    , @Jake
    Bergoglio is indeed a heretic, a most sanctimonious and self-righteous one. He is as bad as any Leftist Anglican or Lutheran who gets to ordain women and marry gays.
  7. syonredux says:
    @Guy de Champlagne
    But Serra was white.

    There are plenty of full blooded spaniards who I wouldn't consider white (although some would). I don't know how accurate any existing depiction of him actually is.

    There are plenty of full blooded spaniards who I wouldn’t consider white

    Ah, looks like someone wants to play Rassenpapst……

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  8. syonredux says:
    @Anonymous
    It's not because he was white. It's because he's believed to have imposed a foreign religion and culture by force. For whatever reason, people in America generally don't conceive of white Hispanics as being "white" like typical white Americans, presumably because of the largely northern European background of most white Americans. It's why guys like Antonio Banderas have a bug up their butts:

    "Residents' board of Lennon's iconic Dakota Building sued for racism after turning down Antonio Banderas 'because he is Hispanic'"

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1352944/Antonio-Banderas-Roberta-Flack-named-racism-lawsuit-Dakota-Building-New-York.html

    "Platino Awards: Antonio Banderas Calls for a Latino Studio to ‘Steal Hollywood From Hollywood’"

    https://www.yahoo.com/movies/platino-awards-antonio-banderas-calls-latino-studio-steal-201557626.html

    For whatever reason, people in America generally don’t conceive of white Hispanics as being “white” like typical white Americans, presumably because of the largely northern European background of most white Americans.

    Actually, it has to do with the fact that lots of “White” Latin Americans have substantial quantities of Amerind ancestry. And some of the more ignorant members of Anglo-American society tend to confuse Iberia with her former colonies.

    Of course, nowadays, as demonstrated by Senor Banderas, White Hispanics are quite eager to claim POC status. It’s a good career move (vede Steve’s numerous musings on the Flight from White).

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Banderas looks exotic in a white American context without any Amerindian ancestry. He played an Arab in The 13th Warrior. That along with his bad accent is probably why he's lumped in with Hispanics by many Americans.
  9. MEH 0910 says:

    Barts Cuts Jebediah’s Head Off – The Simpsons

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The head talks back:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_DkXyuvau4

  10. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux

    For whatever reason, people in America generally don’t conceive of white Hispanics as being “white” like typical white Americans, presumably because of the largely northern European background of most white Americans.
     
    Actually, it has to do with the fact that lots of "White" Latin Americans have substantial quantities of Amerind ancestry. And some of the more ignorant members of Anglo-American society tend to confuse Iberia with her former colonies.

    Of course, nowadays, as demonstrated by Senor Banderas, White Hispanics are quite eager to claim POC status. It's a good career move (vede Steve's numerous musings on the Flight from White).

    Banderas looks exotic in a white American context without any Amerindian ancestry. He played an Arab in The 13th Warrior. That along with his bad accent is probably why he’s lumped in with Hispanics by many Americans.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    Banderas looks exotic in a white American context without any Amerindian ancestry. He played an Arab in The 13th Warrior.
     
    Get the feeling that Banderas keeps a sun-lamp handy.........
    , @S. Anonyia
    Antonio Banderas looks exotic because he plays exotic roles. Put him in the right clothes and give him the right accent for O Brother Where Art Thou and he could have played the part of any dusty white southerner. And George Clooney, standard white American of Irish/German heritage, could reasonably play an Arab if he was an unknown and had the right clothes/accent.
    , @guest
    "he's lumped in with Hispanics by many Americans."

    Banderas is Hispanic, in the sense that he's from Spain and speaks Spanish. In the U.S. "Hispanic" means a person from Latin America, of course. They're expected to speak Spanish, naturally, and Spaniards fathered many children. Hence the term "Hispanic."

    It's a terrible term to cover the range of ethnicities, nationalities, and races involved. One that unintentionally ropes in men like Banderas, who is "Spanish from Spain," as Pete Campbell would say.

    White Americans are racially ignorant. They require long and diligent education to be that ignorant. Which is why we're stuck with terms like "Hispanic."

  11. @MEH 0910

    Barts Cuts Jebediah's Head Off - The Simpsons
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzxddQ361nI

    The head talks back:

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  12. @Dan Hayes
    attilathehen:

    With regard to your statement that it is the Roman Catholic Church's mission to convert the world to Catholicism, I've got unpleasant news for you.

    According to the current Bishop of Rome (as Bergoglio self-identifies himself), it doesn't matter your religion is as long as you subscribe to his own quirky, self-aggrandizing and often contradictory notions which are oftentimes in contradiction to established Catholicism.

    It’s so fascinating because the USA RCC wanted the illegals from Mexico and Central America to strengthen the RCC. I recall reading about some idiot bishop saying that Hispanics would teach Americans how to be RCC. Serra was white so this discombulates the RCC. I’m aware of pope Frannie’s pronouncements, but the RCC cathecism has not been changed so the RCC must still evangelize. I was a cradle RCCer but left the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes. I read today that the USA bishops filed an amicus curiae brief arguing against Trump’s ban on refugees from Muslim nations. They said it’s discrimination. WOW!!! I wonder how all this will end…

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    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    attilathehen,

    You wonder how this will end.

    Answer: BADLY!
  13. Brilliant! The south of the border Amerinds identify as Spanish speaking Catholics. They know no aboriginal language nor their aboriginal Gods. This is like destroying MLK statuary for Africans or G Washington statues for whites. The Amerinds will blame either Africans or their white worshippers and only cement their dislike for Africans into hatred for them. Whereas Amerinds and whites get along quite well (just look at Texas), that’s not the case with Africans (look at SoCal or Detroit) (or DR and Haiti).

    BLM and their white worshippers are dangerously overplaying their hand.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    Brilliant! The south of the border Amerinds identify as Spanish speaking Catholics.
     
    Their North of the Border co-ethnics in Anglo-America identify quite strongly with their Amerind blood. Cf all the talk of "Aztlan" and the Latinx obsession with Quetzalcoatl.....
  14. syonredux says:
    @Anonymous
    Banderas looks exotic in a white American context without any Amerindian ancestry. He played an Arab in The 13th Warrior. That along with his bad accent is probably why he's lumped in with Hispanics by many Americans.

    Banderas looks exotic in a white American context without any Amerindian ancestry. He played an Arab in The 13th Warrior.

    Get the feeling that Banderas keeps a sun-lamp handy………

    Read More
  15. syonredux says:
    @Stan d Mute
    Brilliant! The south of the border Amerinds identify as Spanish speaking Catholics. They know no aboriginal language nor their aboriginal Gods. This is like destroying MLK statuary for Africans or G Washington statues for whites. The Amerinds will blame either Africans or their white worshippers and only cement their dislike for Africans into hatred for them. Whereas Amerinds and whites get along quite well (just look at Texas), that's not the case with Africans (look at SoCal or Detroit) (or DR and Haiti).

    BLM and their white worshippers are dangerously overplaying their hand.

    Brilliant! The south of the border Amerinds identify as Spanish speaking Catholics.

    Their North of the Border co-ethnics in Anglo-America identify quite strongly with their Amerind blood. Cf all the talk of “Aztlan” and the Latinx obsession with Quetzalcoatl…..

    Read More
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Are any movie stars today as well-tanned as Cary Grant was?

    People are a lot more wary of the sun than when I was young. Professional golfers today, for example, almost all wear hats, which makes them more anonymous looking. In contrast, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus, and Johnny Miller seldom wore hats in the 1970s.

    There was a lot of emphasis on sun-bleaching hair in the Robert Redford era.
    , @Lot

    Their North of the Border co-ethnics in Anglo-America identify quite strongly with their Amerind blood. Cf all the talk of “Aztlan” and the Latinx obsession with Quetzalcoatl
     
    Middle and upper-class left-wing Mexicans in Mexico are into Aztec stuff much more than Mex-Ams. This includes neo-pagan/wiccan type stuff incorporating Aztec gods and giving their kids difficult Aztec names. If you meet a Mexican with the first name Quetzalcoatl, expect him to be whitish, from a good Mexico City suburban area, private schooled, and have PRD/Green Party voting parents.

    Steve's Aztec Warrior Princess Xochitl Hinojosa is rarer American example of a common Mexico City type. And then there is 2nd generation leftist politician Cuauhtémoc Cardenas, whose parents both had boring Western Christian names.
  16. BB753 says:

    Serra was born and raised in Spain, and first crossed the Atlantic in his mid thirties. Does that make him Hispanic or just plain Spanish?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junípero_Serra

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  17. @Anonymous
    Banderas looks exotic in a white American context without any Amerindian ancestry. He played an Arab in The 13th Warrior. That along with his bad accent is probably why he's lumped in with Hispanics by many Americans.

    Antonio Banderas looks exotic because he plays exotic roles. Put him in the right clothes and give him the right accent for O Brother Where Art Thou and he could have played the part of any dusty white southerner. And George Clooney, standard white American of Irish/German heritage, could reasonably play an Arab if he was an unknown and had the right clothes/accent.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    Yes. Here is Banderas without makeup or a tan:

    http://i4.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article9720132.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/GettyImages-521238168.jpg

    http://media.extratv.com/2017/01/30/antonio-banderas-getty-825x580.jpg
  18. Dan Hayes says:
    @attilathehen
    It's so fascinating because the USA RCC wanted the illegals from Mexico and Central America to strengthen the RCC. I recall reading about some idiot bishop saying that Hispanics would teach Americans how to be RCC. Serra was white so this discombulates the RCC. I'm aware of pope Frannie's pronouncements, but the RCC cathecism has not been changed so the RCC must still evangelize. I was a cradle RCCer but left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. I read today that the USA bishops filed an amicus curiae brief arguing against Trump's ban on refugees from Muslim nations. They said it's discrimination. WOW!!! I wonder how all this will end...

    attilathehen,

    You wonder how this will end.

    Answer: BADLY!

    Read More
  19. Lot says:
    @S. Anonyia
    Antonio Banderas looks exotic because he plays exotic roles. Put him in the right clothes and give him the right accent for O Brother Where Art Thou and he could have played the part of any dusty white southerner. And George Clooney, standard white American of Irish/German heritage, could reasonably play an Arab if he was an unknown and had the right clothes/accent.

    Yes. Here is Banderas without makeup or a tan:

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    That's not a typical white American phenotype though. He doesn't look like Joe Sixpack walking down Main Street in Anytown, USA. Banderas couldn't play a dusky white Southerner. Clooney is a dark Irish/German type which is a common type that combines Irish/German features with dark hair.
  20. @syonredux

    Brilliant! The south of the border Amerinds identify as Spanish speaking Catholics.
     
    Their North of the Border co-ethnics in Anglo-America identify quite strongly with their Amerind blood. Cf all the talk of "Aztlan" and the Latinx obsession with Quetzalcoatl.....

    Are any movie stars today as well-tanned as Cary Grant was?

    People are a lot more wary of the sun than when I was young. Professional golfers today, for example, almost all wear hats, which makes them more anonymous looking. In contrast, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus, and Johnny Miller seldom wore hats in the 1970s.

    There was a lot of emphasis on sun-bleaching hair in the Robert Redford era.

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    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    http://doonesbury.washingtonpost.com/strip/cast/member/10

    Zonker Harris

    Following graduation he swiftly rose to national prominence on the professional tanning circuit. Two-time Grand National Tanning Champion, he also won the Jack Ford Medal for Best Tan at the l980 Gerald R. Ford Pro-Am Summer Biathlon and the bronze medal at the Sonny Bono Indoor Tan Fest. Retiring from competition in l98l, Harris reversed field and appeared in an influential series of public service ads on skin cancer.
     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zonker_Harris#History

    The only "work" to which he has shown any diligence is acquiring a suntan. Throughout the 1980s, he spent more and more of his time trying to develop "the perfect tan", and even became a celebrity (on par with a professional athlete) for his accomplishments, with George Hamilton as his idol. Eventually he wised up to the damage the sun was doing to his skin, and has since appeared in public service announcements about sun safety.
     
    Doonesbury: A New Musical - Page 23 - Google Books Result
    , @syonredux

    Are any movie stars today as well-tanned as Cary Grant was?
     
    Currently? No one really comes to mind.....

    People are a lot more wary of the sun than when I was young.
     
    I would also add that heavy tans are seen as vaguely prole these days.
    , @guest
    I don't know whether movie stars are thsy tan anymore, but they appear orange on my tv. I assume that's computer colonization or maybe make-up.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    These days there are two countervailing attitudes towards sun exposure:

    Good - sunlight production of vitamin D in the body.

    Bad - for cosmetic reasons many oriental women have an aversion to sun exposure. Note their use of umbrellas for sun shielding which is quite common in NYC. (This aversion is contrary to the sun worshiping mania introduced by Coco Chanel before World War II.)
    , @Pericles
    We Northern Europeans still love the sun.
    , @Brutusale
    Cary Grant?!

    George Hamilton was the golden bronze standard for the Hollywood tan.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/08/24/george.hamilton/index.html
  21. Lot says:
    @syonredux

    Brilliant! The south of the border Amerinds identify as Spanish speaking Catholics.
     
    Their North of the Border co-ethnics in Anglo-America identify quite strongly with their Amerind blood. Cf all the talk of "Aztlan" and the Latinx obsession with Quetzalcoatl.....

    Their North of the Border co-ethnics in Anglo-America identify quite strongly with their Amerind blood. Cf all the talk of “Aztlan” and the Latinx obsession with Quetzalcoatl

    Middle and upper-class left-wing Mexicans in Mexico are into Aztec stuff much more than Mex-Ams. This includes neo-pagan/wiccan type stuff incorporating Aztec gods and giving their kids difficult Aztec names. If you meet a Mexican with the first name Quetzalcoatl, expect him to be whitish, from a good Mexico City suburban area, private schooled, and have PRD/Green Party voting parents.

    Steve’s Aztec Warrior Princess Xochitl Hinojosa is rarer American example of a common Mexico City type. And then there is 2nd generation leftist politician Cuauhtémoc Cardenas, whose parents both had boring Western Christian names.

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    • Replies: @Jake
    It is Christ or chaos.

    All peoples that reject Christ begin the process of reverting back to the paganism of their ancestors. For Mexicans, that means Aztecs and human sacrifice, with cannibalism.

    All phases of the Mexican revolution have been about moving Mexico away from Catholicism and European culture to a rebirth of Aztec paganism. If not for white Liberals in Mexico, none of this would be happening. Father Hidalgo, for example, was 100% European in bloodline.
  22. Jake says:
    @Dan Hayes
    attilathehen:

    With regard to your statement that it is the Roman Catholic Church's mission to convert the world to Catholicism, I've got unpleasant news for you.

    According to the current Bishop of Rome (as Bergoglio self-identifies himself), it doesn't matter your religion is as long as you subscribe to his own quirky, self-aggrandizing and often contradictory notions which are oftentimes in contradiction to established Catholicism.

    Bergoglio is indeed a heretic, a most sanctimonious and self-righteous one. He is as bad as any Leftist Anglican or Lutheran who gets to ordain women and marry gays.

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  23. Jake says:
    @Lot

    Their North of the Border co-ethnics in Anglo-America identify quite strongly with their Amerind blood. Cf all the talk of “Aztlan” and the Latinx obsession with Quetzalcoatl
     
    Middle and upper-class left-wing Mexicans in Mexico are into Aztec stuff much more than Mex-Ams. This includes neo-pagan/wiccan type stuff incorporating Aztec gods and giving their kids difficult Aztec names. If you meet a Mexican with the first name Quetzalcoatl, expect him to be whitish, from a good Mexico City suburban area, private schooled, and have PRD/Green Party voting parents.

    Steve's Aztec Warrior Princess Xochitl Hinojosa is rarer American example of a common Mexico City type. And then there is 2nd generation leftist politician Cuauhtémoc Cardenas, whose parents both had boring Western Christian names.

    It is Christ or chaos.

    All peoples that reject Christ begin the process of reverting back to the paganism of their ancestors. For Mexicans, that means Aztecs and human sacrifice, with cannibalism.

    All phases of the Mexican revolution have been about moving Mexico away from Catholicism and European culture to a rebirth of Aztec paganism. If not for white Liberals in Mexico, none of this would be happening. Father Hidalgo, for example, was 100% European in bloodline.

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    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
    When exactly did Fr. Hidalgo reject Christianity? Are you confusing your Mexican revolutions here? There was one in 1810 -- a war of independence started by Hidalgo -- and another a century later, in 1910.
    , @attilathehen
    No Jake, it is not Christ or chaos. Again, I will give my examples: which country is better:
    RCC Philippines or Shinto/Buddhist Japan; RCC El Salvador or WASP USA; RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland. I am a cradle RCCer who left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. World history can be summed up in 2 words: IQ.

    Aung San Sui Kyi is overseeing the expulsion of Muslims from Myanmar. Good for her. We need that in the West. Burma will be Buddhist and at peace with itself. I've read that Christians are persecuted in Burma. I don't care, they are not Caucasian, European white. We need to save our civilization and mind our own business.

    I still am a Christian. As a Western woman it is the best belief system for me. Until people start dealing with IQ which is biological and linked to race, we will not be able to solve our problems.
  24. MEH 0910 says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Are any movie stars today as well-tanned as Cary Grant was?

    People are a lot more wary of the sun than when I was young. Professional golfers today, for example, almost all wear hats, which makes them more anonymous looking. In contrast, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus, and Johnny Miller seldom wore hats in the 1970s.

    There was a lot of emphasis on sun-bleaching hair in the Robert Redford era.

    http://doonesbury.washingtonpost.com/strip/cast/member/10

    Zonker Harris

    Following graduation he swiftly rose to national prominence on the professional tanning circuit. Two-time Grand National Tanning Champion, he also won the Jack Ford Medal for Best Tan at the l980 Gerald R. Ford Pro-Am Summer Biathlon and the bronze medal at the Sonny Bono Indoor Tan Fest. Retiring from competition in l98l, Harris reversed field and appeared in an influential series of public service ads on skin cancer.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zonker_Harris#History

    The only “work” to which he has shown any diligence is acquiring a suntan. Throughout the 1980s, he spent more and more of his time trying to develop “the perfect tan”, and even became a celebrity (on par with a professional athlete) for his accomplishments, with George Hamilton as his idol. Eventually he wised up to the damage the sun was doing to his skin, and has since appeared in public service announcements about sun safety.

    Doonesbury: A New Musical – Page 23 – Google Books Result

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  25. Ck1 says:

    You are correct. What people forget or don’t know is that the Mexicans and mex-ams can come from different type of amerinds. The central Mexico Indians are Mayan or Aztec whereas northern mexico and the US Southwest Indians were more independent and less communal. Mexicans from Mexico and 4gen or more mex-Ams share a past culture but they can be very different people.

    You don’t see many mex- Ams in texas attending gatherings and protests like you see in California from the Mexican imports. It’s just not in their nature.

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    • Replies: @Seth Largo
    Yeah, I'd be curious to investigate this idea. Does anyone have links to research on tribal ancestry of mestizos? I don't think that research has been done, though, as you point out, there are obvious ethnic differences from north to south (and into South America of course).

    I'm assuming my mother is from Aztec rather than Mayan stock (her family roots being in Zacatecas), and her first-gen parents were very, very patriotic; if still alive, they'd be appalled at the extent of La Raza agitation going on today.
  26. syonredux says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Are any movie stars today as well-tanned as Cary Grant was?

    People are a lot more wary of the sun than when I was young. Professional golfers today, for example, almost all wear hats, which makes them more anonymous looking. In contrast, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus, and Johnny Miller seldom wore hats in the 1970s.

    There was a lot of emphasis on sun-bleaching hair in the Robert Redford era.

    Are any movie stars today as well-tanned as Cary Grant was?

    Currently? No one really comes to mind…..

    People are a lot more wary of the sun than when I was young.

    I would also add that heavy tans are seen as vaguely prole these days.

    Read More
  27. guest says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Are any movie stars today as well-tanned as Cary Grant was?

    People are a lot more wary of the sun than when I was young. Professional golfers today, for example, almost all wear hats, which makes them more anonymous looking. In contrast, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus, and Johnny Miller seldom wore hats in the 1970s.

    There was a lot of emphasis on sun-bleaching hair in the Robert Redford era.

    I don’t know whether movie stars are thsy tan anymore, but they appear orange on my tv. I assume that’s computer colonization or maybe make-up.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    I don’t know whether movie stars are thsy tan anymore, but they appear orange on my tv. I assume that’s computer colonization or maybe make-up.
     
    Color wheel theory. Orange skin against a blue background. Michael Bay is really keen on it.

    Maybe you haven’t noticed, but in the past 20-or-so years there’s been a real catchy trend in major Hollywood movies to constrain the palette to orange and blue. The color scheme, also known as “orange and teal” or “amber and teal” is the scourge of film critics – one of whom calls this era of cinema a “dark age.”

    You’re probably skeptical, so check out the following. Warning that once you know what to look for, it will be very difficult for you not to notice see this color scheme every time you look at a screen, at least for a little while:
     
    https://priceonomics.com/why-every-movie-looks-sort-of-orange-and-blue/
  28. guest says:
    @Anonymous
    Banderas looks exotic in a white American context without any Amerindian ancestry. He played an Arab in The 13th Warrior. That along with his bad accent is probably why he's lumped in with Hispanics by many Americans.

    “he’s lumped in with Hispanics by many Americans.”

    Banderas is Hispanic, in the sense that he’s from Spain and speaks Spanish. In the U.S. “Hispanic” means a person from Latin America, of course. They’re expected to speak Spanish, naturally, and Spaniards fathered many children. Hence the term “Hispanic.”

    It’s a terrible term to cover the range of ethnicities, nationalities, and races involved. One that unintentionally ropes in men like Banderas, who is “Spanish from Spain,” as Pete Campbell would say.

    White Americans are racially ignorant. They require long and diligent education to be that ignorant. Which is why we’re stuck with terms like “Hispanic.”

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I don't see why it's worse than how, say, black is used in the US to cover a range of degrees of black ancestry. Most white Hispanics in Latin America have some degree of non-white ancestries, and Hispanics of varying ancestries in a particular Latin American country generally identify with and share a broader culture, even if there are class barriers and hierarchies within it, which is a feature of every society. This is why guys like Vincente Fox and Jorge Ramos identify with Mexican migrants who are largely Indio, or why elite light skinned blacks like Eric Holder identify with blacks who are wholly African.

    Banderas is not from Latin America, so he doesn't really apply. He just gets roped in because he looks foreign and has a Spanish name, and most Spanish speaking foreigners in the US happen to be from Latin America.
  29. guest says:

    “But Serra was white.

    These days things aren’t really all that complicated.”

    They’re a little bit complicated. Che Guevara was white, as attested to on a recent thread. I assume there are statues of him somewhere. But he’s not coming down.

    Endangered statues are a matter of whom the iconoclast consider One of Us. That’s influenced but not determined by race. There are plenty of whites still in the gang.

    For now.

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  30. Dan Hayes says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Are any movie stars today as well-tanned as Cary Grant was?

    People are a lot more wary of the sun than when I was young. Professional golfers today, for example, almost all wear hats, which makes them more anonymous looking. In contrast, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus, and Johnny Miller seldom wore hats in the 1970s.

    There was a lot of emphasis on sun-bleaching hair in the Robert Redford era.

    Steve,

    These days there are two countervailing attitudes towards sun exposure:

    Good – sunlight production of vitamin D in the body.

    Bad – for cosmetic reasons many oriental women have an aversion to sun exposure. Note their use of umbrellas for sun shielding which is quite common in NYC. (This aversion is contrary to the sun worshiping mania introduced by Coco Chanel before World War II.)

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    • Replies: @grapesoda
    As with most things, moderation is best -- enough to stimulate Vitamin D production but not enough to cause serious damage, or about 30-60 min per day.
  31. Whiskey says: • Website

    Matthew McConaughey is tanned. Alright, Alright, Alright. Kate Hudson is tanned. Jessica Alba is tanned (but not working much). Taylor Swift is tanned.

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  32. Pericles says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Are any movie stars today as well-tanned as Cary Grant was?

    People are a lot more wary of the sun than when I was young. Professional golfers today, for example, almost all wear hats, which makes them more anonymous looking. In contrast, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus, and Johnny Miller seldom wore hats in the 1970s.

    There was a lot of emphasis on sun-bleaching hair in the Robert Redford era.

    We Northern Europeans still love the sun.

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  33. syonredux says:
    @guest
    I don't know whether movie stars are thsy tan anymore, but they appear orange on my tv. I assume that's computer colonization or maybe make-up.

    I don’t know whether movie stars are thsy tan anymore, but they appear orange on my tv. I assume that’s computer colonization or maybe make-up.

    Color wheel theory. Orange skin against a blue background. Michael Bay is really keen on it.

    Maybe you haven’t noticed, but in the past 20-or-so years there’s been a real catchy trend in major Hollywood movies to constrain the palette to orange and blue. The color scheme, also known as “orange and teal” or “amber and teal” is the scourge of film critics – one of whom calls this era of cinema a “dark age.”

    You’re probably skeptical, so check out the following. Warning that once you know what to look for, it will be very difficult for you not to notice see this color scheme every time you look at a screen, at least for a little while:

    https://priceonomics.com/why-every-movie-looks-sort-of-orange-and-blue/

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    • Replies: @BB753
    So, that's how Trump won the elections: his orange hue!
  34. dearieme says:

    It’s good to see there’s no religious test in these matters. That Feinstein moll should take note.

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  35. @Jake
    It is Christ or chaos.

    All peoples that reject Christ begin the process of reverting back to the paganism of their ancestors. For Mexicans, that means Aztecs and human sacrifice, with cannibalism.

    All phases of the Mexican revolution have been about moving Mexico away from Catholicism and European culture to a rebirth of Aztec paganism. If not for white Liberals in Mexico, none of this would be happening. Father Hidalgo, for example, was 100% European in bloodline.

    When exactly did Fr. Hidalgo reject Christianity? Are you confusing your Mexican revolutions here? There was one in 1810 — a war of independence started by Hidalgo — and another a century later, in 1910.

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  36. grapesoda says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    These days there are two countervailing attitudes towards sun exposure:

    Good - sunlight production of vitamin D in the body.

    Bad - for cosmetic reasons many oriental women have an aversion to sun exposure. Note their use of umbrellas for sun shielding which is quite common in NYC. (This aversion is contrary to the sun worshiping mania introduced by Coco Chanel before World War II.)

    As with most things, moderation is best — enough to stimulate Vitamin D production but not enough to cause serious damage, or about 30-60 min per day.

    Read More
  37. Ian M. says:

    Sweet, will the statue of Father Serra be canonized now that it has been martyred?

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  38. @Ck1
    You are correct. What people forget or don't know is that the Mexicans and mex-ams can come from different type of amerinds. The central Mexico Indians are Mayan or Aztec whereas northern mexico and the US Southwest Indians were more independent and less communal. Mexicans from Mexico and 4gen or more mex-Ams share a past culture but they can be very different people.

    You don't see many mex- Ams in texas attending gatherings and protests like you see in California from the Mexican imports. It's just not in their nature.

    Yeah, I’d be curious to investigate this idea. Does anyone have links to research on tribal ancestry of mestizos? I don’t think that research has been done, though, as you point out, there are obvious ethnic differences from north to south (and into South America of course).

    I’m assuming my mother is from Aztec rather than Mayan stock (her family roots being in Zacatecas), and her first-gen parents were very, very patriotic; if still alive, they’d be appalled at the extent of La Raza agitation going on today.

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    • Replies: @Ck1
    If your family is from Zacatecas then you might be Chicimeca. The Chichimeca were nomadic unlike the Aztec. The Spanish tried to enslave the Chichimeca to work the silver mines but that just started the Chichimeca War 1550-1590.
  39. hhsiii says:

    Yup. Wiliam Tecumseh Sherman’s statue is next for having led the army during the indian wars.

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  40. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Lot
    Yes. Here is Banderas without makeup or a tan:

    http://i4.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article9720132.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/GettyImages-521238168.jpg

    http://media.extratv.com/2017/01/30/antonio-banderas-getty-825x580.jpg

    That’s not a typical white American phenotype though. He doesn’t look like Joe Sixpack walking down Main Street in Anytown, USA. Banderas couldn’t play a dusky white Southerner. Clooney is a dark Irish/German type which is a common type that combines Irish/German features with dark hair.

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  41. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @guest
    "he's lumped in with Hispanics by many Americans."

    Banderas is Hispanic, in the sense that he's from Spain and speaks Spanish. In the U.S. "Hispanic" means a person from Latin America, of course. They're expected to speak Spanish, naturally, and Spaniards fathered many children. Hence the term "Hispanic."

    It's a terrible term to cover the range of ethnicities, nationalities, and races involved. One that unintentionally ropes in men like Banderas, who is "Spanish from Spain," as Pete Campbell would say.

    White Americans are racially ignorant. They require long and diligent education to be that ignorant. Which is why we're stuck with terms like "Hispanic."

    I don’t see why it’s worse than how, say, black is used in the US to cover a range of degrees of black ancestry. Most white Hispanics in Latin America have some degree of non-white ancestries, and Hispanics of varying ancestries in a particular Latin American country generally identify with and share a broader culture, even if there are class barriers and hierarchies within it, which is a feature of every society. This is why guys like Vincente Fox and Jorge Ramos identify with Mexican migrants who are largely Indio, or why elite light skinned blacks like Eric Holder identify with blacks who are wholly African.

    Banderas is not from Latin America, so he doesn’t really apply. He just gets roped in because he looks foreign and has a Spanish name, and most Spanish speaking foreigners in the US happen to be from Latin America.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    No, Vincente Fox and Jorge Ramos do not "identify" with the mestizos or Indians of Mexican. (It's like when some degenerate Southern whites wax about how good slavery was for blacks.) They want them out of Mexico so they don't have to deal with the problems they cause. Mexico is a great place for the white Mexicans to make money and have cheap labor. But if the cheap labor costs them in terms of social stability they want to get rid of the rabble. The USA RCC is insane because as Steve Bannon pointed out they need these illegals to fill the pews. But they refuse to deal with the fact that the RCC has not changed the primitive natures of the Indians (because of IQ). And now the Southern Baptist Convention is going along with this insanity. This battle is between whites (Jews only play a small part). It's like Chicago where the mayor Wet Rahmenoodle is "exporting" blacks to other white parts of Illinois (small towns) to revive the city. This plan started under Richard Daley. But this is only works in the short run. Repatriation, deportation, segregation and dealing with facts, i.e., IQ which leads to race differences is the only way. Ending the satanic beliefs of "universal brotherhood" and "universal church" are critical.
    , @guest
    "Banderas is not from Latin America, so he doesn't really apply"

    It does apply to him, technically, because the term "Hispanic" describes him perfectly. That's my point. Why pick a term relying upon Latin America's connection to a particular European country when Europeans are meant to be excluded?

    "I don't see why it's worse than how, say, black is used in the U.S...."

    "Black" is imprecise, but at least all the people who are black are covered by it. Or pretty much so, not counting people who "pass" for other races. We do to an extent mean American black when we say "black." No one feels the need to say "Blacks deserve reparations! Though not blacks from Africa who came over post-civil rights movement, of course."

    But generally speaking, Africans are included.
  42. @Jake
    It is Christ or chaos.

    All peoples that reject Christ begin the process of reverting back to the paganism of their ancestors. For Mexicans, that means Aztecs and human sacrifice, with cannibalism.

    All phases of the Mexican revolution have been about moving Mexico away from Catholicism and European culture to a rebirth of Aztec paganism. If not for white Liberals in Mexico, none of this would be happening. Father Hidalgo, for example, was 100% European in bloodline.

    No Jake, it is not Christ or chaos. Again, I will give my examples: which country is better:
    RCC Philippines or Shinto/Buddhist Japan; RCC El Salvador or WASP USA; RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland. I am a cradle RCCer who left the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes. World history can be summed up in 2 words: IQ.

    Aung San Sui Kyi is overseeing the expulsion of Muslims from Myanmar. Good for her. We need that in the West. Burma will be Buddhist and at peace with itself. I’ve read that Christians are persecuted in Burma. I don’t care, they are not Caucasian, European white. We need to save our civilization and mind our own business.

    I still am a Christian. As a Western woman it is the best belief system for me. Until people start dealing with IQ which is biological and linked to race, we will not be able to solve our problems.

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  43. @Anonymous
    I don't see why it's worse than how, say, black is used in the US to cover a range of degrees of black ancestry. Most white Hispanics in Latin America have some degree of non-white ancestries, and Hispanics of varying ancestries in a particular Latin American country generally identify with and share a broader culture, even if there are class barriers and hierarchies within it, which is a feature of every society. This is why guys like Vincente Fox and Jorge Ramos identify with Mexican migrants who are largely Indio, or why elite light skinned blacks like Eric Holder identify with blacks who are wholly African.

    Banderas is not from Latin America, so he doesn't really apply. He just gets roped in because he looks foreign and has a Spanish name, and most Spanish speaking foreigners in the US happen to be from Latin America.

    No, Vincente Fox and Jorge Ramos do not “identify” with the mestizos or Indians of Mexican. (It’s like when some degenerate Southern whites wax about how good slavery was for blacks.) They want them out of Mexico so they don’t have to deal with the problems they cause. Mexico is a great place for the white Mexicans to make money and have cheap labor. But if the cheap labor costs them in terms of social stability they want to get rid of the rabble. The USA RCC is insane because as Steve Bannon pointed out they need these illegals to fill the pews. But they refuse to deal with the fact that the RCC has not changed the primitive natures of the Indians (because of IQ). And now the Southern Baptist Convention is going along with this insanity. This battle is between whites (Jews only play a small part). It’s like Chicago where the mayor Wet Rahmenoodle is “exporting” blacks to other white parts of Illinois (small towns) to revive the city. This plan started under Richard Daley. But this is only works in the short run. Repatriation, deportation, segregation and dealing with facts, i.e., IQ which leads to race differences is the only way. Ending the satanic beliefs of “universal brotherhood” and “universal church” are critical.

    Read More
  44. guest says:
    @Anonymous
    I don't see why it's worse than how, say, black is used in the US to cover a range of degrees of black ancestry. Most white Hispanics in Latin America have some degree of non-white ancestries, and Hispanics of varying ancestries in a particular Latin American country generally identify with and share a broader culture, even if there are class barriers and hierarchies within it, which is a feature of every society. This is why guys like Vincente Fox and Jorge Ramos identify with Mexican migrants who are largely Indio, or why elite light skinned blacks like Eric Holder identify with blacks who are wholly African.

    Banderas is not from Latin America, so he doesn't really apply. He just gets roped in because he looks foreign and has a Spanish name, and most Spanish speaking foreigners in the US happen to be from Latin America.

    “Banderas is not from Latin America, so he doesn’t really apply”

    It does apply to him, technically, because the term “Hispanic” describes him perfectly. That’s my point. Why pick a term relying upon Latin America’s connection to a particular European country when Europeans are meant to be excluded?

    “I don’t see why it’s worse than how, say, black is used in the U.S….”

    “Black” is imprecise, but at least all the people who are black are covered by it. Or pretty much so, not counting people who “pass” for other races. We do to an extent mean American black when we say “black.” No one feels the need to say “Blacks deserve reparations! Though not blacks from Africa who came over post-civil rights movement, of course.”

    But generally speaking, Africans are included.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "Hispanic" typically refers to Spanish speaking people in Latin America.

    "Black" doesn't cover everyone who is "black" - South Asians and Papau New Guineans for example - and it includes some people who are quite light skinned.
  45. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @guest
    "Banderas is not from Latin America, so he doesn't really apply"

    It does apply to him, technically, because the term "Hispanic" describes him perfectly. That's my point. Why pick a term relying upon Latin America's connection to a particular European country when Europeans are meant to be excluded?

    "I don't see why it's worse than how, say, black is used in the U.S...."

    "Black" is imprecise, but at least all the people who are black are covered by it. Or pretty much so, not counting people who "pass" for other races. We do to an extent mean American black when we say "black." No one feels the need to say "Blacks deserve reparations! Though not blacks from Africa who came over post-civil rights movement, of course."

    But generally speaking, Africans are included.

    “Hispanic” typically refers to Spanish speaking people in Latin America.

    “Black” doesn’t cover everyone who is “black” – South Asians and Papau New Guineans for example – and it includes some people who are quite light skinned.

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  46. BB753 says:
    @syonredux

    I don’t know whether movie stars are thsy tan anymore, but they appear orange on my tv. I assume that’s computer colonization or maybe make-up.
     
    Color wheel theory. Orange skin against a blue background. Michael Bay is really keen on it.

    Maybe you haven’t noticed, but in the past 20-or-so years there’s been a real catchy trend in major Hollywood movies to constrain the palette to orange and blue. The color scheme, also known as “orange and teal” or “amber and teal” is the scourge of film critics – one of whom calls this era of cinema a “dark age.”

    You’re probably skeptical, so check out the following. Warning that once you know what to look for, it will be very difficult for you not to notice see this color scheme every time you look at a screen, at least for a little while:
     
    https://priceonomics.com/why-every-movie-looks-sort-of-orange-and-blue/

    So, that’s how Trump won the elections: his orange hue!

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  47. Ck1 says:
    @Seth Largo
    Yeah, I'd be curious to investigate this idea. Does anyone have links to research on tribal ancestry of mestizos? I don't think that research has been done, though, as you point out, there are obvious ethnic differences from north to south (and into South America of course).

    I'm assuming my mother is from Aztec rather than Mayan stock (her family roots being in Zacatecas), and her first-gen parents were very, very patriotic; if still alive, they'd be appalled at the extent of La Raza agitation going on today.

    If your family is from Zacatecas then you might be Chicimeca. The Chichimeca were nomadic unlike the Aztec. The Spanish tried to enslave the Chichimeca to work the silver mines but that just started the Chichimeca War 1550-1590.

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  48. Brutusale says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Are any movie stars today as well-tanned as Cary Grant was?

    People are a lot more wary of the sun than when I was young. Professional golfers today, for example, almost all wear hats, which makes them more anonymous looking. In contrast, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus, and Johnny Miller seldom wore hats in the 1970s.

    There was a lot of emphasis on sun-bleaching hair in the Robert Redford era.

    Cary Grant?!

    George Hamilton was the golden bronze standard for the Hollywood tan.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/08/24/george.hamilton/index.html

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