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Hispanic Electoral Tsunami Postponed Once Again Due to Lack of Interest

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For years we’ve been reading about the Righteous Racial Rage of Hispanics and how the only hope of the Republican Party to survive is to facilitate an auto-coup by its South Florida wing of Jeb Bush and/or Marco Rubio to boost immigration. Sure, the GOP would lose on average on each immigrant, but it would make up for it on volume!

But when I look at the Hispanic turnout numbers in detail, the reality is less electrifying.

From the New York Times:

Yes, Latinos Are Rising, but So Are Latino Nonvoters
Damien Cave @damiencave JAN. 19, 2016

Here’s the reality of Latino political power today: It’s not what it could be.

Even though 27 million Latinos will be eligible to cast a ballot in November — an increase of 17 percent since 2012 — the Latino population is becoming more distant from the American political process, according to a new report from the Pew Research Center.

Most Latinos who could vote in the last three national elections chose not to. Turnout was just under 50 percent in 2008, and fell to 48 percent in 2012. It dropped to 27 percent in the 2014 midterms, the lowest rate ever recorded for Latinos.

Another low yield may define 2016 as well.

“We’re seeing the number of people who could vote growing at a faster pace than those who do vote,” said Mark Hugo Lopez, director of Hispanic research at Pew Research Center. “There were more nonvoters than voters in the last election, and those nonvoter numbers are rising.”

The lack of engagement is not new; Latino voter turnout has lagged behind that of whites and blacks for decades. Asian-American voter turnout has also been below black and white turnout since at least 1992; it was even with Latino voter turnout in 2012.

But among Latino leaders and social scientists, there is a growing recognition, and increasing concern, that Latinos are punching beneath their weight, and may be stuck in a cycle of disconnection.

Maybe, deep down, they think that Anglos on average tend to be better than Latinos at running a country, which is why they are here rather than back home in Latin America?

 

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  1. Maybe, deep down, they think that Anglos on average tend to be better than Latinos at running a country, which is why they are here rather than back home in Latin America?

    In other words, “just keep on keepin’ on gringo!”

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  2. >> Sure, the GOP would lose on average on each immigrant, but it would make up for it on volume!

    This is no joke. You cannot believe how many Republican supporters I have spoken to in the past who echo this line. When the sheer innumerate idiocy of the strategy is explained to them they just go blank.

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  3. Well, on the upside I guess this is a possible sign that latinos are more or less immune to the racial grievance racket that works so well for the left in getting black voters to turn out and vote Democrat at rates that make a golden retriever look disloyal.

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  4. If GOP won the south by appealing to whites than by trying to win over blacks, wouldn’t it have made sense for the GOP to appeal to whites in the SW than to the browns?

    That said, whereas blacks in the South made overwhelming numbers of whites turn Republican, this hasn’t been the case in CA where substantial number of whites still voted for the Democrats even when whites were demographically overwhelmed.

    Maybe it’s because whites don’t fear the browns as much as they do the blacks.

    Also, it could be because the two biggest industries in CA are Hollywood and Silicon Valley, heavily dominated by Democratic Jews(and homos). The American South and Texas are less dominated by Jewish power, though Florida is an exception. But then Florida isn’t as black as some of Deep South states.

    If white elites in the South allied with white masses against blacks, Jewish-and-homo elites in California often allied with browns, yellows, and blacks against whites.
    But then, whites discovered that they would more-or-less peacefully co-exist with yellows and browns without too much trouble, whereas whites in the Deep South are still filled with lots of fear of blacks.

    But even the Deep South is changing as so much of the investment has come from the North. Also, many southern cities and towns are now controlled by hipster Liberal types from the North. Also, children of southern folks who got PC-education in the North come back feeling at odds with their family and community.

    Lots of homos infiltrated Nashville too, just like they did with the Catholic and mainline churches.

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  5. Whites are evil. Non-whites are good. White rule is imperialism (= evil). Immigration plus quiescence is elective imperialism. Does not compute. Head explodes.

    It’s the original sin of multicultural politics.

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  6. Maybee the average person identified by our intellegenisa as Latinos don’t really believe there is a socalled Latino or Hispanic block, and partly as a result don’t feel the need to get political.

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  7. Any theories on why Asian turnout is so low?

    It seems odd that they would trail blacks or whites. Is the difference negligible or significant?

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  8. “vote Democrat at rates that make a golden retriever look disloyal.”

    Such a golden retriever doesn’t exist. I think you are confusing golden retrievers with pit bulls.

    BTW about 30 years ago I was in St. Petersburg, Fla. with my wife when we spotted a man walking a dog. My wife insisted the dog was a pit bull, and I said no. As we approached the man, I rolled down the widow on the driver’s side as we slowed down, but, before I could the man a question, he answered “he’s the nicest dog you could want.” Somehow we got the feeling that wasn’t the first time he was asked whether his pit bull was a pit bull.

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  9. Maybe, deep down, they think that Anglos on average tend to be better than Latinos at running a country

    Pity blacks don’t have similar views. It might have saved us from eight years of Obama.

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  10. And many of the Latinos who do decide to vote this time around, I imagine, will vote for Trump. Jobs and wages, trade and immigration: you don’t have to be a genius to appreciate those things. Then there is the macho thing: Trump’s a man’s (and a woman’s) idea of a man.

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  11. “Maybe, deep down, they think that Anglos on average tend to be better than Latinos at running a country, which is why they are here rather than back home in Latin America?”

    I would think they would have second thoughts what with the rampant immigration boondoggles that have swamped the U S in recent years. What’s so “better” about running a country when the gates are thrown open and aberrant populations are resettled here? I would think some of the Latinos would be – to paraphrase Groucho – loathe to live in a country that would allow them to be citizens!

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  12. “They think…anglos better at running a country”

    Well, Ireland was famous as a backwater with a massive emigration rate. Presumably, Irish immigrants would also not wish to recreate the political dysfunction they left behind. So why were they so politically engaged?

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  13. Most Latinos who could vote in the last three national elections chose not to | Neoreactive
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    […] and fell to 48% in 2012. It dropped to 27% in the 2014 midterms, the lowest rate ever recorded for Latinos. The lack of engagement is not new; Latino voter turnout has lagged behind that of whites and […]

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  14. I didn’t realize that a tsunami could be postponed by a simple lack of interest. That’s something to keep in mind next time you are threatened by a tsunami. I guess just act indifferent is the lesson to be drawn from this blog. That would certainly save you from some needless running to higher ground.

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  15. Yeap, that’s right Evil White People, except when starving Africans need someone to feed them because they can’t feed themselves and their 10 potbellied children

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  16. That said, whereas blacks in the South made overwhelming numbers of whites turn Republican, this hasn’t been the case in CA where substantial number of whites still voted for the Democrats even when whites were demographically overwhelmed.

    Maybe it’s because whites don’t fear the browns as much as they do the blacks.

    CA whites value browns as a docile, productive helot class. A Midwestern friend of mine once mentioned to some white Californians that he had delivered pizza while in college. They replied, completely genuinely, “But that’s Mexican work.”

    American blacks bear a lot of resentment towards whites. No other in-country group does, except for maybe Red Indians.

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  17. The way to avoid Ireland’s particular dysfunctions is to not be conquered and enslaved by the British.

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  18. And as Fearless Leader informed us in a prev blog post,Hispanics have the lowest mass shooting rate.So there’s that.

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  19. It’s gotta eat away at Steve that his forward thinking political analyses and forecasts have been so accurate for the past decade and a half, yet no GOP politician with a 100 million dollar campaign warchest has bothered to put him on a payroll. Steve should be living in a 10,000 sq ft faux colonial mansion in Alexandria, VA, not in some clapboard Levitt house in Studio City with a dead lawn.

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  20. Maybe Latinos are a voting block (bloc?) only in Anglo minds. I have to ask our resident experts. Does the average American Latino person walk around all day thinking of himself as specifically Latino? Or just vaguely thinking of himself as any other (white) American guy does?

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  21. The political dysfunction they left behind was rule by the British aristocracy who owned the island from the time of Henry VIII.

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  22. It is going to painful for a machismo male Hispanic to vote for an old lady in a pantsuit who also reminds him of the worst of his in-laws.

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  23. There is no such thing as “Hispanics”, the Latinos are very different from each other and are not politically engaged, Latin-American countries are ruled by small elites.

    You could say that Latin-America is the model for the NWO endgame, especially Brazil.

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  24. I have lived in the Los Angeles area for the past 30 years. I work with Mexicans every day. It was mostly whites that I worked with back in 1985, but as time has gone by, it is mostly Mexicans now.

    Going from poor to middle-class is a big deal with Mexican immigrants. Going from middle-class to upper-middle-class seems to loose their interest (or perhaps ability). The leap from rags to riches seems to be a mostly Asian interest in Southern California.

    I will go often go to big box store in the Los Angeles area and be the only white person present among hundreds of customers. This doesn’t bother me. It’s just something I have become used to.

    Mexicans are fellow Westerners with Catholic sensibilities. I don’t think it was a good idea to open the borders to them so fast and easy. But count your blessings.

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  25. Well, the British were in charge of Ireland during that time.

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  26. That hispanic huge turnout drop in offyear elections is why the GOP might start moving as many elections as it can to off years.

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  27. Elites of all races and regions in the USA are allied against the masses.

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  28. This headline is why I love coming here. And it’s true so win-win.

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  29. Maybe, deep down, they think that Anglos [sic] on average tend to be better than Latinos at running a country…

    ¿Hombres como el Señor Triunfo, el Donaldo?

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  30. For one thing, the Irish of the 19th century did not have universal suffrage. For another the immigrants to the US were more dependent on the social bonds among their group. 100 Years ago they could rely on political patronage and juice. Fruits that were earned by voting and organizing at the precinct level. What is there today? Grievances and racial set asides that benefit some but not most. They can’t even get a traffic ticket fixed by their ward boss.

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  31. Democratic candidates are in there pitching:

    https://berniesanders.com/es/

    https://www.hillaryclinton.com/es/

    As far as I can tell, neither Trump, Cruz nor Rubio have official campaign pages in Spanish. Not even Jeb has one. Probably because Trump set the tone for this issue early in the campaign.

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  32. I completely agree. It’s hilarious to watch them struggle with the arithmetic.

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  33. “They just go blank”…..as in blank slate?

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  34. “100 Years ago they could rely on political patronage and juice. Fruits that were earned by voting and organizing at the precinct level. What is there today? Grievances and racial set asides that benefit some but not most”

    Excellent points. And “grievances and racial asides” don’t need shared ethnicity, unlike patronage networks. Whites can push for comprehensive immigration reform better than Marco Rubio and Catholic Supreme Court justices can advance the values of evangelicals better than their fellow Protestants.

    Actually, what role does ethnicity play in Hawaiian politics? Or New Mexico?

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    The Irish were organized into tight-knit neighborhoods and parishes whose leaders and priests were closely connected with the urban political machines and would deliver bloc votes for them by telling their parishioners who to vote for. Hispanics and other immigrants seem to live in ethnic enclaves but seem to be relatively disconnected from electoral politics. The Irish union bosses or priests were closely connected to their ethnic communities and involved in the mechanics of getting them to bloc vote, but Hispanic and other self-appointed ethnic leaders today seem to end up mainly focusing on their own careers in the national media or in Washington.

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  36. I think it has a lot to do with length of stay. Whites and blacks feel much greater ownership of the country.

    Asians and Latinos are like renters, mostly ignoring the contentious HOA meetings.

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  37. It could be postponed by lack of caring, but we could prevent it all together if we move quickly, build the wall, end birthright ciztenship, reduce legal immigration etc.

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  38. @Steve Sailer

    “Maybe, deep down, they think that Anglos on average tend to be better than Latinos at running a country, which is why they are here rather than back home in Latin America?”

    The fundamental mistake you make is in assuming that Latinos had the intention of turning their countries into powerhouses of Laissez-faire capitalism, and, if they didn’t, it is becauise they lacked the capacity for it. You are defining “success” here by the classic English liberal definition of the word, which is producing massive amounts of goods and services. In reality, there is a sizable amount of highly competent elites in Latin America. They could have organized their nations successfully, and they have the innate ability to produce advanced technology. The thing is that they never had the INTENTION to.

    The elites of Latin America never had any interest in creating successful free-market economies. The reason for this is that they control the apparatus of the state, and through the state they can control everything else. In a Society where no one owns the state, the only path to wealth is by producing goods and services that people want. Continuous economic growth is a phenomenon that is only observed in societies that went through political Enlightnment, and where everyone is equal before the law. Piketty actually observed this in his book, about how little economic growth there was from 800 B.C up to the 16th century. Continuous economic expansion is an anomaly that only happens in free-market societies where no individual or group of individuals controls the apparatus of the state. Equality before the law removes the focus of people from controlling political and military assets and puts it on production.

    In Latin America, men came, saw and conquered. From there, they organized their societies in a mold that would ensure that their sons, and the sons of their sons, and so on, would rule as kings over an enslaved conquered people. Thus, Latin Ameircan was organized around the FEUDALISTIC economical and social mode. In such a Society, economic growth is small to non-existent because maintaining and gaining wealth depends not on creating more and better goods and servies , but rather on effective political and social control of the population by the elites. A stagnant Society results from this. It is the same kind of Society you could observe in Tsarist Russia, ancient Rome and antebellum American south. Back in 1800, Latin American counties had a higher GDP per capita than the English colonies of North America. Even in 1850, there were still countries in Latin America with a higher PPP per capita than the U.S. It was only in the second half of the 19th century, especially after the Civil War, when the Yankee free-market values won out, that the U.S skyrocketed ahead of Latin America. The U.S’ economic superiority over Latin America is actually very recent in historical terms, starting about 150 years ago.

    Equality before the law and low levels of nepotism are the most fundamental reasons that explains the discrepancy between Anglo America and Latin America in wealth and scientific development. It is not a difference of race and intelligence, but a difference in POLITICAL AND SOCIAL organization. You are defining a “successful” Society here in the way that Adam Smith would define it, as a Society that produces abundant wealth for all. Such was NEVER the goal for the people running Latin American countries.

    Stating that a Society such as this is more “successful” is an inherently subjective assertion. Obviously, possesing wealth increases ones options in life, and from the point of view of maximization of utility, being affluent does increase the possibilities of being happy. But there doesen’t seem to be a linear correlation between the two things. But still, people do tend to see wealth, as something desirable and emigration to wealthier countries is proof of that, so in a sense wealthier countries are more successful if you define a successful Society by how happy such a Society, on average, makes people. But “success” is much more than that. Peruvians, for instance, despite their squalor, have lower level of artherosclerosis than Americans, lower levels of dementia in old age and on surveys report higher levels of being content with life. In this regard, they are more “successful”. Having the ability to acquire goods and services does not seem to increase much one’s happiness beyond a moderate baseline. In fact, studies done with lottery winners show they are not happier 6 months after than they were . Happiness, in fact, appears to be far more strongly correlated to the extracellular amount of the neurotransmitter, dopamine, than to anything else. It is especially correlated to the amount of dopamine that latches on to the dopamine D2DR receptors. No amount of economic or social achievement seems to be able to circumvent the levels of well-being defined by dopaminergic activity at D2DR receptors. And this is under genetic control. But I am digressing…

    It is ridiculous to assume that the U.S higher levels of economic and scientific development than Latin America because white Americans are more “intelligent” than Latinos. White Americans have a well-deserved reputation throughout the World for being DUMB. Most foreigners who visit America are shocked to realize just how ignorant and unscholarly most white Americans are. In fact, it has become a recurring joke in the World the general poor reasoning skills and insular ignorance of Americans. The impression is that most white Americans get their wisdom about the World and information from the Simpson and South Park cartoons. The U.S is not a country that values erudiction and culture. Athenians, Americans are not. In fact, for the past quarter century America has been importing pretty much all the skilled management and labor to keep it’s remaining industry running. Some 50 years ago, the U.S only imported the most brilliant physicists and most distinguished PhDs, but for the past few decades it has to import even engineers from the undergraduate level, because the U.S lacks BASIC skilled technicians to run it’s own industries.Hell, India has more and better engineers than the “mighty” U.S.

    So, no, Anglos are not INNATELY better at running countries than Latinos. The key word here is “innately”. There are plenty of people in Latin American countries who could make those countries much “better” – as you would define it – than they are now. But they have no interest in it. Their lives are very good as it is. Turning millions of peasants into pétit-bourgeoise is not something that interests them. They would much rather keep them as peasants plowing their farms.

    And Latinos might actually end up becoming the rulling elite of the U.S. It is not only peasants entering America now. Go to south Florida, and you’ll see plenty of Latinos driving Lamborghiis who work as professionals or business owneers. Their numbers increase every day. There are lots of very affluent and educated Latinos emigrating to the U.S now, for reasons that elude me.

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  39. I thought I was the only person who say this.

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  40. Sounds like they havnt recovered since the whole hanging chad thing

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  41. Being a California native I can assure you that we don’t consider them docile. We’ve had to build many prisons the last 30 years to accommodate their docile behavior

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  42. Nick Diaz….. Latino apologist or cage fighter with a vocabulary ?

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  43. You make some points there, but nobody can deny that the gringos are very industrious. Not as industrious as the Germans though.
    I think people are attracted to NW European societies because of the social trust. If that disappears those societies will lose their appeal.
    However as you point out money and wealth is not everything. And then there is the factor of time.
    The Anglo elites clearly got it very wrong in letting YKW emigrate in mass, take control of the media, finance, entertainment and eventually define the culture and politics. Now they have a very antagonistic elite dismantling their country.
    Maybe in 100-200 year from now South America will be better off that the USA…

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  44. In Mexico, Mexicans turned out to vote at a rate of 63% in 2012. Even in the off year elections of 2015, turnout was 48%.

    https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elecciones_federales_en_M%C3%A9xico_de_2012

    Now the only Latinos in America that can vote are the citizens. For the most part, those are the ones that were born in the USA and grew up their whole lives there. They speak fluent English and have very high literacy rates. There are no obvious excuses for them as there are for the illiterate undocumented classes with their poor educational, legal, social, and economic outcomes.

    And the grievance machine is in full swing with lucrative bribes and ethnic quotas in public jobs and efforts at the major universities and newspapers. No expense is spared to get lefty Chicanos to vote. Bribes out of the public fisc flow like a waterfall to keep them voting Democrat.

    And yet Mexicans in Mexico turn out to vote almost 50% more often than Mexican-Americans in the USA.

    It’s a mystery to me. The only efforts made in Mexico are the usual publicity and campaigning, same as in the USA. There is no obligatory turnout law as in Australia and no prizes at the polling place. The polling places are just as obvious and widely distributed as in the USA, though voting by mail is much harder to arrange. Voter documentation requirements are stricter in Mexico but they’re done as a part of the ordinary national ID card; still, you can register to vote at any driver’s license office in the USA when getting ID also.

    It’s true all the candidates in Mexico campaign in Spanish, ¡Jeb!-style. There are political parties that actually disagree on the issues facing the nation instead of posing a united front against the people. The elections are competitive more often because Mexico has mixed member proportional voting instead of abusive gerrymandering; that means Latino candidates don’t automatically get a free ride in minority-majority districts as in the USA. There’s no electoral college, so every vote for presidente counts. But I doubt any of that accounts for such a large difference.

    Mr. Trump says, “they’re not sending their best.” Maybe Mexico just isn’t sending its most civic minded.

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  45. I’ve never understood the big push to get everyone to vote. It seems to me that the people who are content with the way things are see no need to bother themselves with politics. Many of them, also, recognize that their lack of interest in politics means that they understand the main talking points of the politicians less than their fellows and so they logically stay away from the polls – leaving those who care most about an issue to make the determination. I, for one, did not bother to vote for many years until I realized that when carpet-bagger Hillary Clinton declared that she was a New Yorker and ran for the Senate that meant that I needed to get my voice heard. Of course that was to no avail; democracy sucks when you do not agree with the majority, you might have noticed.

    Aren’t the countries with the highest number of voters the least-democratic ones? Some countries force their subjects to vote by noting whether they participated in an election on their identification cards.

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  46. It’s a generational thing. First generation Latino immigrants were brought up in a functional society. Second generation Latinos were brought up in a toxic waste dump. CA has a lot of the second by now, but elites continue to have lots of experience with the first and the employable subset of the second.

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  47. whites in the Deep South are still filled with lots of fear of blacks.

    Not really. Northern and Southern racism are pretty different. Fear and loathing of blacks is mostly a Northern thing. Southern racists tend to see blacks as amusing and lovable but excitable and thus occasionally dangerous livestock. It’s Yankees that Southern racists hate and loathe.

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  48. After the British liberated Ireland the population rose very rapidly. This was the cause of the so-called “Irish famine”.

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  49. The main purpose of HOA meetings is to ensure that white people know that anarcho-syndicalism is a really bad idea. The Spanish Civil War having been not lesson enough.

    Since Latinos don’t suffer from this particular temptation, they don’t need HOA meetings.

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  50. No such thing as Latino. There are Mexicans, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, etc., who do not necessarily have all that much in common.

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  51. Yes, I’m aware that Ireland was ruled by the Brits at the time, but it really doesn’t matter. For one thing, Swedes were abandoning their country in droves too. So were Italians. Yet they didn’t just come here and leave the nation-ruling to the supposedly superior Anglos.

    For one thing, just because you’re great at advancing the interests of your own doesn’t mean you’re any good at advancing the interests of others. Great parents don’t necessarily make great foster parents. Why else would Anglo Americans have needed to secede from the most advanced, well-run and democratic nation in the world?

    What I *would* say is that most immigrants have no wish to recreate the dysfunctional *system* of governance they left behind and very much wish to preserve the super-successful *system* they immigrated to. Favoring a system != favoring its creators, as the Greeks, Jews, Persians, Chinese etc, have found out.

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  52. Maybe, deep down, they think that Anglos [sic] on average tend to be better than Latinos at running a country…

    Anglo is a word with a future, Reg. Best to get used to it:

    Replenishing the Earth: The Settler Revolution and the Rise of the Angloworld
    by James Belich

    http://www.amazon.com/Replenishing-Earth-Settler-Revolution-Angloworld/dp/0199604541

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  53. His Studio City house is probably worth close to one million dollars given the stupidity of LA real estate. Obviously unless you take a chance on losing it (borrow against it) that doesn’t help your living standard much until you sell it.

    Imagine the media pile on of any candidate relying almost exclusively on the white vote or hiring anybody that even suggested putting an emphasis on white people’s issues. It would be the black Oscar tempest times 500 billion. It would be quite a move of the Overton Window if Trump put him on the payroll.

    Trump could probably do it with a campaign that white working class issues are also black and Latino working class issues.

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  54. For the most part, those are the ones that were born in the USA and grew up their whole lives there. They speak fluent English and have very high literacy rates.

    Sadly, Mexicans just don’t seem to care much for reading:

    Nowadays more children attend school than ever before, but they learn much less. They learn almost nothing. The proportion of the Mexican population that is literate is going up, but in absolute numbers, there are more illiterate people in Mexico now than there were 12 years ago. Even if baseline literacy, the ability to read a street sign or news bulletin, is rising, the practice of reading an actual book is not. Once a reasonably well-educated country, Mexico took the penultimate spot, out of 108 countries, in a Unesco assessment of reading habits a few years ago.

    So I shouldn’t have been surprised by the response when I spoke at a recent event for promoting reading for an audience of 300 or so 14- and 15-year-olds. “Who likes to read?” I asked. Only one hand went up in the auditorium. I picked out five of the ignorant majority and asked them to tell me why they didn’t like reading. The result was predictable: they stuttered, grumbled, grew impatient. None was able to articulate a sentence, express an idea.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/06/opinion/the-country-that-stopped-reading.html?hpw&_r=0

    Mexico’s best is extremely mediocre:

    Mexico and the Nobel prize. According to WIKIPEDIA, three people of Mexican origins have won a Nobel. As compared to 10 for Scotland, 15 for Australia, 23 for Canada, 74 for England , 306 for the USA, …..

    How about Fields Medalists?:

    United States 12

    France 10

    Soviet Union (3) / Russia (6) 9

    United Kingdom 7

    Japan 3
    Belgium 2

    West Germany (1) / Germany (0) 1

    Australia 1

    British Hong Kong 1

    Finland 1

    Israel 1

    Italy 1

    Norway 1

    New Zealand 1

    Sweden 1

    Vietnam 1

    Iran 1

    Brazil 1

    (None Stateless) 1

    I’ve left out Manjul Bhargava. His background is complicated.

    So, Mexico has zero.Hell, all of Latin America has exactly one, which ties them with New Zealand.

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  55. It is not a difference of race and intelligence,

    BS society influences the genes and the genes influence society. That you have a society of non-strivers means the genes for striving have likely been bred out of the population at large, if they ever existed at all. There is certainly very little evidence of it in Amerindians.

    Most foreigners who visit America are shocked to realize just how ignorant and unscholarly most white Americans are.

    Imagine what they must think about American blacks and Hispanics. Given that what must they think about Mexico?


    And Latinos might actually end up becoming the rulling elite of the U.S.

    No doubt we will be just as F-ed up as the places they left if that happened.

    but for the past few decades it has to import even engineers from the undergraduate level, because the U.S lacks BASIC skilled technicians to run it’s own industries.Hell, India has more and better engineers than the “mighty” U.S.

    Total nonsense from somebody who doesn’t work in the field and has no experience with the mediocrity of most H-1Bs or the issue in general.

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  56. Mr. Trump says, “they’re not sending their best.”

    And here’s Steve on Mexican mediocrity:

    Something I noticed last year when looking at 2009 PISA school achievement scores is the virtual non-existence of Mexico’s intellectual elite. Mexico’s average scores on this school achievement test of 15-year-olds were mediocre, but the lack of high end scores was startling, compared to a similar scoring country like Turkey, where there is a definite class of very smart Turks. Obviously, there is a stunning shortage of very high-achieving Mexican Americans in the U.S., but I had tended to assume that the really smart guys who run things in Mexico were just foisting off their mediocre people on the U.S. Yet, it’s hard to find test score evidence that there are many really smart guys in Mexico at all. This is not to say the average Mexican is all that uneducated by global standards, just that the far right end of the bell curve in Mexico is a lot thinner than you’d expect.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2011/12/mexican-mediocrity-quantified.html

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  57. Mexican elections always take place on a Sunday, so that might account for higher turnout.

    Also, in most jurisdictions buying alcohol is banned on election day. So there’s really nothing else to do, I suppose. (of course the local family run grocery stores on the corner will sell you booze on election day if they recognize you as a client)

    Mexican parties do a lot of vote-buying on election day and in the days leading up to the election. Huge warehouses are filled with bundles of household goods (called “dispensas”), given away in neighborhoods on election day.

    In addition, everything from building supplies to sacks of corn and other grains are stored in the warehouses and given out in the vote-buying schemes. The last Presidential election was tainted by PRI handing out grocery store cards redeemable for foodstuffs and other goods.

    If elections in Mexico are more competitive, it’s more due to the number of parties involved. Most races will have at least three candidates, and some have as many as six or seven. In the last mid-term elections in June 2015 (which included independents for the first time) some candidates won with 25% of the the vote.

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  58. I’m reminded of a conversation I had at the coffee shop with an Millennial American SJW barista (Asian woman adopted by libs) complaining about the lack of amenities in Peru after returning from a trip to Machu Picchu. I said, well, it is the Third World, to which she haughtily rejoined, no, it’s a developing nation.

    A quick tap on my laptop to be sure of the date, and I asked her if she knew, seeing as Peru became independent in 1821, how long it was going to take to develop?

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  59. I once taught at a predominantly Latino high school, and I came away with a similar impression. The kids of poor Mexican and Central American backgrounds did almost nothing in class. They were generally pleasant and polite, and they usually attended school for social reasons. But they did nothing. They couldn’t even muster up complaints like my rebellious white and black students; they just showed up and talked, drew pictures, did their makeup, etc. I remember one Guatemalan student telling me that he wanted to move back home because, in Guatemala, “we just played all day.” Of course, the middle-aged white women of the district were always trying to stir them up and get them involved in activism, but they remained the most apathetic, docile bunch of people I’ve ever encountered.

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  60. It is going to painful for a machismo male Hispanic to vote for an old lady in a pantsuit….

    Ha ha — you may be right!

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  61. Anglo is a word with a future, Reg. Best to get used to it:

    Bah, humbug. I prefer the late Miss King‘s construction: so angry you turn from Anglo to Saxon in a trice.

    “Anglo” without “-Saxon” is like a day without drizzle.

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  62. It’s Yankees that Southern racists hate and loathe.

    Except, for some reason, the worst Yankee ever.

    They seemed to like him. More than those four Midwesterners.

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  63. Economic migrants really shouldn’t be expected to be particularly civic minded.

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  64. Except, for some reason, the worst Yankee ever.

    Don’t worry; Ta-Nehisi Coates says that FDR is to blame for redlining.And we all know what happens once Blacks start saying that someone is bad, bad, bad….

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  65. FDR beat two New Yorkers, a Kansan, and a Californian. Kansas is in the Midwest. Even Landon (the Kansan) was born in Pennsylvania. Whether PA is in the Midwest is a matter for debate. I guess he grew up in OH which is definitely in the Midwest, though. Hoover, the Californian, was a Quaker. Thus, Yankee.

    Also, the Yankee/Midwestern distinction is a lot more popular among Yankees and Midwesterners than it is among Southerners.

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