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From the New York Post:

Two transgender candidates win in Democratic primaries
By David K. Li June 29, 2016 | 1:52pm

Two transgender women — both named Misty — won Democratic nominations for Congress on Tuesday, becoming the first transgender politicians to ever win major-party nominations.

Utah grocery store cashier Misty Snow will take on incumbent Sen. Mike Lee in November, while IT consultant Misty Plowright is set to challenge US Rep. Doug Lamborn in Colorado’s 5th Congressional District. …

Plowright beat single dad and Iraq vet Donald Martinez for her shot at Lamborn. Plowright is an Army vet with a wife, Lisa, and a third domestic partner named Sebastian, according to the candidate’s campaign website.

Commenter Ghost of Bull Moose adds:

A third domestic partner named Sebastian. I picture a small lesbian with slicked back hair and a pencil moustache drawn with an actual pencil.

We’ve been hearing for decades about how, real soon now, Latinos are going to be the political wave of the future, but this poor bastard Martinez can’t even beat a guy named Misty. The Hispanics are now being pushed aside in the Democratic Party by all these New Improved Minorities.

 
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  1. To be fair, the Democratic primary in the Utah Senate race is sort of pointless from a practical standpoint.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Yeah it seems like Utah Democrats hate Mormons so much that they will support the most deviant people just as a big "fuck you" to the Mormon majority.

    From what I've heard about Utah, this is understandable.

  2. Plowright is an Army vet with a wife, Lisa, and a third domestic partner named Sebastian, according to the candidate’s campaign website.

    Haha, you just can’t make this stuff up. Can America get any weirder? Wait, don’t answer that question.

    • Replies: @gcochran
    I remember a comparable race. Even though it was a conservative, prosperous farm district, the local university made sure that the Democratic party was nuts. So they nominated a radical black lady (in an almost all-white district) who was a political science prof at the local junior college. She went down in flames - got the lowest percentage of any Democratic house candidate in the entire US.

    But could she have starred in Play Misty for Me? Well, she was a close friend - some would say overly close - of her Great Dane. As you probably know, male dogs, when in the throes of passion, can get stuck. Trouble ensued. They covered her and the dog ( on the stretcher together) with a blanket as the ambulance carried the star-crossed lover to the hospital, but it was pretty obvious what was going on, and there was talk. Med students make interesting friends.

    Ordinary measures did not suffice, and it was the dog that paid the ultimate price.

    There's a lesson here somewhere.
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Haha, you just can’t make this stuff up. Can America get any weirder?"


    Yes. Yes it most certainly can. Suppose one day another athlete decided to go trans. Completely unexpected and out of the blue, say, oh….perhaps Eldrick?

    Now THAT would certainly shape up the LPGA for certain. Also, uh, Eldrick could in theory then win enough LPGA tournaments to add to his career total of major wins, surpass Nicholas, and thus be declared the ultimate PGA winner in history. After all, winning majors knows no gender (or something like that) and should someone point out that Eldrick didn't actually pass Nicholas as a man, that would be considered transphobic and a major politically incorrect no-no.

    Not saying that Eldrick would actually do such a thing, but, as the clock continues to tick and he simply is not winning any majors, desperate times call for desperate measures. How can he plausibly be considered the greatest golfer ever to play the game when he doesn't have the most majors in history?

    Kind of a win-win for him, actually. If it worked for Caitlyn why not Eldrick (or would it be Eldrina?)
    , @Mr. Anon
    "Plowright is an Army vet with a wife, Lisa, and a third domestic partner named Sebastian, according to the candidate’s campaign website."

    Who's the second? The Gimp?
  3. Waydaminit.

    1/ CO-5 is very GOP and so the Dem is bound to lose. We don’t know how hard Martinez worked to win.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado%27s_5th_congressional_district

    2/ I’ve agreed before that Hispanics don’t vote in numbers proportionate to their percentage in the population unless-big unless-a candidate works very hard to anger them into voting.

    Somebody like this:

    https://www.google.com/#q=trump+taco+salad

    • Replies: @Das
    Flawed exit polling led a lot of people to believe that Hispanics were turning out in droves, but if you actually look at precinct-level data, it doesn't pan out. Hence the recent NY Times article "There Are a Lot More White Voters Than You Think."

    Even in heavily Hispanic cities like Los Angeles, there are surprisingly few elected Hispanic officials.

    Recent immigrant Hispanics have such low turnout that there are farm communities in California's Central Valley that are 90% Hispanic and yet elect white Republicans to office.

    Assimilated Hispanics who have lived here for generations do a lot better than that, but their turnout is still way below the national average.

    Hispanics in America view voting the way that white Americans view soccer.
    , @Aristippus
    With a R+16, winning the Dem nomination doesn't mean too much. Colorado Springs, the bulk of CO-5, is also only 16.1% Hispanic/Latino. Plowright is running for publicity and is going to use the election to get a book deal, some media profile pieces, and speaking gigs.
    , @Zach Taylor
    The only people who cared about that Cinco de Mayo tweet were terminal whiteliberals like yourself. It is true that distinguished statesmen of the El Cucuy or Piolin school have motivated throngs of vibrant to crowd the streets before but you don't have to register to riot. Anyway most of Trump's Spanishy critics are pale Cuban lobbyists who will probably vote for him anyway on the Mr. T principle, to wit, "I need work, foo' "
    , @Mr. Anon
    "2/ I’ve agreed before that Hispanics don’t vote in numbers proportionate to their percentage in the population unless-big unless-a candidate works very hard to anger them into voting."

    Doesn't seem to be hurting him so far:

    Trump leads Hillary among Hispanics
  4. Sebastian. Ze sounds so fascinating, married to a Congressional candidate & her wife.

    The Hispanic guy isn’t very interesting. He’s even got documents.

  5. Liberals just use Hispanics as muscle against blacks.

  6. Love how both of them have that classic stripper/porn name. I’m sure we”ll be getting to know ladies with names like Alix, Destiny, Heaven, and Chantel pretty soon.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Alix wasn't always a stripper/porn name. It was used among royalty, the most famous recent example being Alix of Hesse, consort of Nicholas II of Russia. However, it has earlier royal antecedents (e.g. Alix of France, daughter of King Louis VII and Eleanor of Aquitaine).
  7. Yes…but a cross-dressing supermarket cashier?

  8. Ed says:

    The transvestite angle may be fun, but this is something of a nothing story if you understand how US politics works.

    Because the Supreme Court doesn’t allow any limitations on spending -something that makes the US pretty unique among countries that have elections- there are also no limitations on the length of campaigns, and of course it takes alot of money to run for Congress.

    Running for political office means taking a leave of absence from your job, for political activity your boss may disapprove of, in order to seek another job. Most people can’t do that. Plus you have to have lots of money yourself or lots of rich friends.

    This is particularly pointless if your opponent pretty much has the district sewn up anyway. And donors won’t give to candidates almost certain to lose. This is why the incumbency re-election rate is as high as it is. But it also means that Republicans have a hard time finding people even willing to run in very blue areas, and Democrats have a hard time finding people to run in very red areas.

    So its not unheard of to not have one of the two parties run a candidate at all in a district they have little chance to win anyway. And if they do they often wind up with some kook. Even if they get a pol to run, chances are the pol will put little effort in the campaign, preferring to husband his resources so he can keep or get back his current job. Alvin Greene is one instance of this.

    So in the reddest state in the country, the Democrats wound up with some kook as their Senate candidate, and in one of the reddest House districts, Colorado Springs, they are fielding some kook as the Congressional candidate. This happens basically all the time, just now we get cross-dressing kooks because that’s the thing these days.

    • Replies: @Pat Casey
    Yeah well said. And you'll notice a surprisingly small fraction of congressman had experience as staffers. Not like the brits. I've known a few hill staffers who thought they were going to run for congress, til they eventually admitted to themselves its really just kinda boring. Day in day out, ya know. All lobbyists now.
    , @ScarletNumber
    Alvin Greene was the best; he ran when he was under indictment. The charges were eventually dismissed under PTI.

    Believe it or not, he was also an honorably-discharged veteran and a college graduate, holding a B.A. in Political Science from the University of South Carolina.
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    If it bleeds, it leads.

    If it's kooks, we looks.
    , @Polynikes
    In Ft Wayne's congressional district (very red) the Dems are running a homeless guy. Literally, homeless... living in a motel. There's a good video on YouTube of him being interviewed drinking beer and smoking cigarettes.
    , @carol
    I live in such a blue area, and yeah candidate recruitment is hard. The good ones basically recruit themselves. They know whether they have the funds and friends and time to do it all. The Dems, on the other hand, are often college professors, teachers or bureaucrats who get "public service" leave with no problem. Or even graduate student from the Environmental Studies dept in between school and career.

    It's all the GOP can do just to control the legislature. We try to field candidates in each district in order to divert some of the Democrat funding and so that the D incumbent is prevented from legislating between sessions. It's teamwork with the rest of the state that counts.

    Even knowing that, the resident GOP critics have to engage in recriminations after each election - we need to do something, guys, because we're losing...it's just a cudgel to beat up your rivals with. Even when the strategy works and we take both houses of the legislature. I mean what do I care how the legislator from my district votes if overall the result is good?

  9. @JerryC

    Plowright is an Army vet with a wife, Lisa, and a third domestic partner named Sebastian, according to the candidate’s campaign website.
     
    Haha, you just can't make this stuff up. Can America get any weirder? Wait, don't answer that question.

    I remember a comparable race. Even though it was a conservative, prosperous farm district, the local university made sure that the Democratic party was nuts. So they nominated a radical black lady (in an almost all-white district) who was a political science prof at the local junior college. She went down in flames – got the lowest percentage of any Democratic house candidate in the entire US.

    But could she have starred in Play Misty for Me? Well, she was a close friend – some would say overly close – of her Great Dane. As you probably know, male dogs, when in the throes of passion, can get stuck. Trouble ensued. They covered her and the dog ( on the stretcher together) with a blanket as the ambulance carried the star-crossed lover to the hospital, but it was pretty obvious what was going on, and there was talk. Med students make interesting friends.

    Ordinary measures did not suffice, and it was the dog that paid the ultimate price.

    There’s a lesson here somewhere.

    • Replies: @Formerly CARealist
    you know, I don't want to believe this story, but my sister works in an ER and the stories she tells are not too far off this line. Perverts will get themselves into some weird predicaments and will require professional help to undo their entanglements.

    One guy managed to get his wedding ring around the end of his member and then couldn't get it off. In the ER the doc was pretty flummoxed. Laser cutter? My sister was off duty before they figured it out.
    , @ScarletNumber
    What year and what district?
    , @The most deplorable one
    In Canada the dog would not have bee executed but would have been charged with penetrative bestiality.

    However, I guess his defense could be: "She was a real dog!"
    , @Mr. Anon
    As Kramer said: "Million-to-one shot, Doc. Million-to-one!"
  10. Das says:
    @anony-mouse
    Waydaminit.

    1/ CO-5 is very GOP and so the Dem is bound to lose. We don't know how hard Martinez worked to win.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado%27s_5th_congressional_district

    2/ I've agreed before that Hispanics don't vote in numbers proportionate to their percentage in the population unless-big unless-a candidate works very hard to anger them into voting.

    Somebody like this:

    https://www.google.com/#q=trump+taco+salad

    Flawed exit polling led a lot of people to believe that Hispanics were turning out in droves, but if you actually look at precinct-level data, it doesn’t pan out. Hence the recent NY Times article “There Are a Lot More White Voters Than You Think.”

    Even in heavily Hispanic cities like Los Angeles, there are surprisingly few elected Hispanic officials.

    Recent immigrant Hispanics have such low turnout that there are farm communities in California’s Central Valley that are 90% Hispanic and yet elect white Republicans to office.

    Assimilated Hispanics who have lived here for generations do a lot better than that, but their turnout is still way below the national average.

    Hispanics in America view voting the way that white Americans view soccer.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    Ever been to Seattle?
    , @Cloudbuster
    Recent immigrant Hispanics have such low turnout that there are farm communities in California’s Central Valley that are 90% Hispanic and yet elect white Republicans to office.

    Could it be that the mestizo lower-class Mexicans have such a deeply-held cultural subservient/slave mentality that they're more comfortable being ruled by light-skinned Europeans (as is the case in Mexico)?
    , @dr kill
    Voting in the CA and SA countries of their origin is staged and controlled. Voting counts for nothing, even in countries where it's compulsory. That's where the USA is now. So seems to me the spanish are ahead of the curve for once. Voting, if it mattered they wouldn't let us do it.
  11. @Ed
    The transvestite angle may be fun, but this is something of a nothing story if you understand how US politics works.

    Because the Supreme Court doesn't allow any limitations on spending -something that makes the US pretty unique among countries that have elections- there are also no limitations on the length of campaigns, and of course it takes alot of money to run for Congress.

    Running for political office means taking a leave of absence from your job, for political activity your boss may disapprove of, in order to seek another job. Most people can't do that. Plus you have to have lots of money yourself or lots of rich friends.

    This is particularly pointless if your opponent pretty much has the district sewn up anyway. And donors won't give to candidates almost certain to lose. This is why the incumbency re-election rate is as high as it is. But it also means that Republicans have a hard time finding people even willing to run in very blue areas, and Democrats have a hard time finding people to run in very red areas.

    So its not unheard of to not have one of the two parties run a candidate at all in a district they have little chance to win anyway. And if they do they often wind up with some kook. Even if they get a pol to run, chances are the pol will put little effort in the campaign, preferring to husband his resources so he can keep or get back his current job. Alvin Greene is one instance of this.

    So in the reddest state in the country, the Democrats wound up with some kook as their Senate candidate, and in one of the reddest House districts, Colorado Springs, they are fielding some kook as the Congressional candidate. This happens basically all the time, just now we get cross-dressing kooks because that's the thing these days.

    Yeah well said. And you’ll notice a surprisingly small fraction of congressman had experience as staffers. Not like the brits. I’ve known a few hill staffers who thought they were going to run for congress, til they eventually admitted to themselves its really just kinda boring. Day in day out, ya know. All lobbyists now.

  12. So now the question- do women embrace these two as bold pioneering women? Women may not care this time because a guy got beat, but if he-shes start pushing aside real women to overrepresent in the field of “female” politics the way they do in sports, expect women to start rejecting them en masse (the way they do when a transformer beats women in a sporting event) because they know deep down that these are really men, and they are overly sensitive to the fact that they don’t tend to compete as well as men.

  13. You know nothing of women Misty Snow.

    • Replies: @Grandpa Jack
    They probably don't know about women, other than in the superficial ways of dressing like a woman and putting on exaggerated feminine mannerisms. They aren't dating, marrying or having kids with women, at least not usually- most are gays.
  14. @gcochran
    I remember a comparable race. Even though it was a conservative, prosperous farm district, the local university made sure that the Democratic party was nuts. So they nominated a radical black lady (in an almost all-white district) who was a political science prof at the local junior college. She went down in flames - got the lowest percentage of any Democratic house candidate in the entire US.

    But could she have starred in Play Misty for Me? Well, she was a close friend - some would say overly close - of her Great Dane. As you probably know, male dogs, when in the throes of passion, can get stuck. Trouble ensued. They covered her and the dog ( on the stretcher together) with a blanket as the ambulance carried the star-crossed lover to the hospital, but it was pretty obvious what was going on, and there was talk. Med students make interesting friends.

    Ordinary measures did not suffice, and it was the dog that paid the ultimate price.

    There's a lesson here somewhere.

    you know, I don’t want to believe this story, but my sister works in an ER and the stories she tells are not too far off this line. Perverts will get themselves into some weird predicaments and will require professional help to undo their entanglements.

    One guy managed to get his wedding ring around the end of his member and then couldn’t get it off. In the ER the doc was pretty flummoxed. Laser cutter? My sister was off duty before they figured it out.

    • Replies: @Grandpa Jack
    I once heard from an EMT that truckers get into strange predicaments. I remember one she told me about who had called in for help. After the ambulance arrived, he briefly talked with one of the EMTs, got calmly into the ambulance, didn't look anyone in the eye, and rode to the hospital with his head down, not saying a word. Turns out he had been playing hide-and-go-seek with a Mickey's big mouth bottle and it got stuck.
  15. @Ed
    The transvestite angle may be fun, but this is something of a nothing story if you understand how US politics works.

    Because the Supreme Court doesn't allow any limitations on spending -something that makes the US pretty unique among countries that have elections- there are also no limitations on the length of campaigns, and of course it takes alot of money to run for Congress.

    Running for political office means taking a leave of absence from your job, for political activity your boss may disapprove of, in order to seek another job. Most people can't do that. Plus you have to have lots of money yourself or lots of rich friends.

    This is particularly pointless if your opponent pretty much has the district sewn up anyway. And donors won't give to candidates almost certain to lose. This is why the incumbency re-election rate is as high as it is. But it also means that Republicans have a hard time finding people even willing to run in very blue areas, and Democrats have a hard time finding people to run in very red areas.

    So its not unheard of to not have one of the two parties run a candidate at all in a district they have little chance to win anyway. And if they do they often wind up with some kook. Even if they get a pol to run, chances are the pol will put little effort in the campaign, preferring to husband his resources so he can keep or get back his current job. Alvin Greene is one instance of this.

    So in the reddest state in the country, the Democrats wound up with some kook as their Senate candidate, and in one of the reddest House districts, Colorado Springs, they are fielding some kook as the Congressional candidate. This happens basically all the time, just now we get cross-dressing kooks because that's the thing these days.

    Alvin Greene was the best; he ran when he was under indictment. The charges were eventually dismissed under PTI.

    Believe it or not, he was also an honorably-discharged veteran and a college graduate, holding a B.A. in Political Science from the University of South Carolina.

    • Agree: Triumph104
  16. @gcochran
    I remember a comparable race. Even though it was a conservative, prosperous farm district, the local university made sure that the Democratic party was nuts. So they nominated a radical black lady (in an almost all-white district) who was a political science prof at the local junior college. She went down in flames - got the lowest percentage of any Democratic house candidate in the entire US.

    But could she have starred in Play Misty for Me? Well, she was a close friend - some would say overly close - of her Great Dane. As you probably know, male dogs, when in the throes of passion, can get stuck. Trouble ensued. They covered her and the dog ( on the stretcher together) with a blanket as the ambulance carried the star-crossed lover to the hospital, but it was pretty obvious what was going on, and there was talk. Med students make interesting friends.

    Ordinary measures did not suffice, and it was the dog that paid the ultimate price.

    There's a lesson here somewhere.

    What year and what district?

  17. Probably both of the trans-misties won because they had Anglo surnames running against Hispanic surnames. In fact Plowright might be the most Anglo surname I have ever seen.

    • Replies: @WowJustWow
    I assumed her surname was also part of her made-up stripper pseudonym.

    The only way for two women to "plow right" is if one of them has male genitalia.
  18. @anony-mouse
    Waydaminit.

    1/ CO-5 is very GOP and so the Dem is bound to lose. We don't know how hard Martinez worked to win.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado%27s_5th_congressional_district

    2/ I've agreed before that Hispanics don't vote in numbers proportionate to their percentage in the population unless-big unless-a candidate works very hard to anger them into voting.

    Somebody like this:

    https://www.google.com/#q=trump+taco+salad

    With a R+16, winning the Dem nomination doesn’t mean too much. Colorado Springs, the bulk of CO-5, is also only 16.1% Hispanic/Latino. Plowright is running for publicity and is going to use the election to get a book deal, some media profile pieces, and speaking gigs.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    Yeah, but what does Sebastian get out of it?
  19. The notion that Latinos can’t be bothered to vote doesn’t sit well with the view that mass migration exists to increase Democratic voters, does it?

    • Replies: @Discard
    They don't have to even be legal aliens, let alone citizens, to populate a district. Redistricting counts "persons", regardless of age or legal status. As long as the White politician representing these gerrymandered districts is a Democrat, it's a win for the Jackass Party.
    , @Das
    Well, yeah. That's something that the anti-immigration right tends to vastly exaggerate.

    The mass immigration over the last 30 years has coincided with Republican gains at every level of government except for the presidency. And because of the electoral college, Hispanics have little impact on the presidential election. Romney could have won 70% of the Hispanic vote and still lost.

    If the plan was to create an unstoppable Democratic majority, it failed miserably.

    It's bad for the country, but not because foreign ringers are swinging a lot of elections to the Democrats.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Democrats think Hispanics (aka Mestizos/Amerinds) will be loyal voters. Republicans think Hispanics are “natural conservatives.” Neither of those perceptions will matter if the USA becomes Venezuela Norte.
    , @Zach Taylor
    Only if you're not paying attention. More illegals = more bureaucrats, social workers, school district administrators, and ambulance-chasing activists = more committed Democrats. It's obvious that a booming black market of unskilled labor with attendant out-of-wedlock third-world fertility strengthens the left's electoral agenda in every respect, regardless of how many from the peasant army they can drag to the polls. Besides, doing it that way takes more effort.
  20. ” I picture a small lesbian with slicked back hair and a pencil moustache drawn with an actual pencil.”

    Joel Grey in “Cabaret”?

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    Sebastian is the gay cousin of Elizabeth Taylor in the Gore Vidal scripted film version of Tennessee William's Suddenly Last Summer. He gets cannibalized by the little street urchin boys he uses Liz Taylor to procure.

    That's the only Sebastian I can recall other than Bach. Or Sebastian Cabot. Mr. French from Family Affair. And I had a hunch about him, too. So maybe this 3rd wheel looks more like a fat, bearded butler.
  21. • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Ha! I was about to post this very video.

    It should be noted that the tour guide has a Star of David necklace pendant. Not quite visible here, but you can see it in the episode.
  22. @Ed
    The transvestite angle may be fun, but this is something of a nothing story if you understand how US politics works.

    Because the Supreme Court doesn't allow any limitations on spending -something that makes the US pretty unique among countries that have elections- there are also no limitations on the length of campaigns, and of course it takes alot of money to run for Congress.

    Running for political office means taking a leave of absence from your job, for political activity your boss may disapprove of, in order to seek another job. Most people can't do that. Plus you have to have lots of money yourself or lots of rich friends.

    This is particularly pointless if your opponent pretty much has the district sewn up anyway. And donors won't give to candidates almost certain to lose. This is why the incumbency re-election rate is as high as it is. But it also means that Republicans have a hard time finding people even willing to run in very blue areas, and Democrats have a hard time finding people to run in very red areas.

    So its not unheard of to not have one of the two parties run a candidate at all in a district they have little chance to win anyway. And if they do they often wind up with some kook. Even if they get a pol to run, chances are the pol will put little effort in the campaign, preferring to husband his resources so he can keep or get back his current job. Alvin Greene is one instance of this.

    So in the reddest state in the country, the Democrats wound up with some kook as their Senate candidate, and in one of the reddest House districts, Colorado Springs, they are fielding some kook as the Congressional candidate. This happens basically all the time, just now we get cross-dressing kooks because that's the thing these days.

    If it bleeds, it leads.

    If it’s kooks, we looks.

  23. @JerryC

    Plowright is an Army vet with a wife, Lisa, and a third domestic partner named Sebastian, according to the candidate’s campaign website.
     
    Haha, you just can't make this stuff up. Can America get any weirder? Wait, don't answer that question.

    “Haha, you just can’t make this stuff up. Can America get any weirder?”

    Yes. Yes it most certainly can. Suppose one day another athlete decided to go trans. Completely unexpected and out of the blue, say, oh….perhaps Eldrick?

    Now THAT would certainly shape up the LPGA for certain. Also, uh, Eldrick could in theory then win enough LPGA tournaments to add to his career total of major wins, surpass Nicholas, and thus be declared the ultimate PGA winner in history. After all, winning majors knows no gender (or something like that) and should someone point out that Eldrick didn’t actually pass Nicholas as a man, that would be considered transphobic and a major politically incorrect no-no.

    Not saying that Eldrick would actually do such a thing, but, as the clock continues to tick and he simply is not winning any majors, desperate times call for desperate measures. How can he plausibly be considered the greatest golfer ever to play the game when he doesn’t have the most majors in history?

    Kind of a win-win for him, actually. If it worked for Caitlyn why not Eldrick (or would it be Eldrina?)

    • Replies: @Kyle a
    What the hell?.. That was one incoherent ramble
  24. • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I imagine that Trump is frustrated that he can't videotape his Veep search.
  25. @Stephen R. Diamond
    The notion that Latinos can't be bothered to vote doesn't sit well with the view that mass migration exists to increase Democratic voters, does it?

    They don’t have to even be legal aliens, let alone citizens, to populate a district. Redistricting counts “persons”, regardless of age or legal status. As long as the White politician representing these gerrymandered districts is a Democrat, it’s a win for the Jackass Party.

  26. @yaqub the mad scientist
    Love how both of them have that classic stripper/porn name. I'm sure we''ll be getting to know ladies with names like Alix, Destiny, Heaven, and Chantel pretty soon.

    Alix wasn’t always a stripper/porn name. It was used among royalty, the most famous recent example being Alix of Hesse, consort of Nicholas II of Russia. However, it has earlier royal antecedents (e.g. Alix of France, daughter of King Louis VII and Eleanor of Aquitaine).

    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    Hate to tell you, but the spurious aristocracy has been using regal names and titles for some time.
  27. What’s the name of Sebastian’s teddy bear?

  28. @Wyrd
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K99E-KDLiUE

    Ha! I was about to post this very video.

    It should be noted that the tour guide has a Star of David necklace pendant. Not quite visible here, but you can see it in the episode.

  29. @Das
    Flawed exit polling led a lot of people to believe that Hispanics were turning out in droves, but if you actually look at precinct-level data, it doesn't pan out. Hence the recent NY Times article "There Are a Lot More White Voters Than You Think."

    Even in heavily Hispanic cities like Los Angeles, there are surprisingly few elected Hispanic officials.

    Recent immigrant Hispanics have such low turnout that there are farm communities in California's Central Valley that are 90% Hispanic and yet elect white Republicans to office.

    Assimilated Hispanics who have lived here for generations do a lot better than that, but their turnout is still way below the national average.

    Hispanics in America view voting the way that white Americans view soccer.

    Ever been to Seattle?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    ""Hispanics in America view voting the way that white Americans view soccer.""

    "Ever been to Seattle?"

    He said "America".
  30. Das says:
    @Stephen R. Diamond
    The notion that Latinos can't be bothered to vote doesn't sit well with the view that mass migration exists to increase Democratic voters, does it?

    Well, yeah. That’s something that the anti-immigration right tends to vastly exaggerate.

    The mass immigration over the last 30 years has coincided with Republican gains at every level of government except for the presidency. And because of the electoral college, Hispanics have little impact on the presidential election. Romney could have won 70% of the Hispanic vote and still lost.

    If the plan was to create an unstoppable Democratic majority, it failed miserably.

    It’s bad for the country, but not because foreign ringers are swinging a lot of elections to the Democrats.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Yes, but would any Romney EVER be able to win California? No? Then the Dems have a lock on major electoral college votes and can focus their resources elsewhere.

    Anyway, in an increasingly centralized US, having a blue DC with control over the bureaucracy and judiciary is a lot more important than getting, say, more blue county comptrollers in Alabama.
    , @SFG
    Eventually the added Latinos etc. will push into red areas though. You are right we're seeing a short-term Republican bump in reaction to that, but as so far no nonwhite group ever votes Republican in large numbers...
    , @Mr. Anon
    "The mass immigration over the last 30 years has coincided with Republican gains at every level of government except for the presidency."

    Except for the Presidency? The President is the most powerful office in the land, not leastwise because he appoints the federal judiciary, including (the very powerful) Supreme Court Justices. The President and Supreme Court (sort of like Sauron and the Nazgul) are become increasingly powerful, especially as Congress hands up its power and authority.

    The Democrat's campaign of voter replacement is working quite well.
  31. @Stephen R. Diamond
    The notion that Latinos can't be bothered to vote doesn't sit well with the view that mass migration exists to increase Democratic voters, does it?

    Democrats think Hispanics (aka Mestizos/Amerinds) will be loyal voters. Republicans think Hispanics are “natural conservatives.” Neither of those perceptions will matter if the USA becomes Venezuela Norte.

  32. I always thought Misty Hyman was a cuckoo name. Good to see you improved upon cuckoo.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misty_Hyman

  33. @tomv

    I imagine that Trump is frustrated that he can’t videotape his Veep search.

  34. @Aristippus
    With a R+16, winning the Dem nomination doesn't mean too much. Colorado Springs, the bulk of CO-5, is also only 16.1% Hispanic/Latino. Plowright is running for publicity and is going to use the election to get a book deal, some media profile pieces, and speaking gigs.

    Yeah, but what does Sebastian get out of it?

  35. @2Mintzin1
    " I picture a small lesbian with slicked back hair and a pencil moustache drawn with an actual pencil."

    Joel Grey in "Cabaret"?

    Sebastian is the gay cousin of Elizabeth Taylor in the Gore Vidal scripted film version of Tennessee William’s Suddenly Last Summer. He gets cannibalized by the little street urchin boys he uses Liz Taylor to procure.

    That’s the only Sebastian I can recall other than Bach. Or Sebastian Cabot. Mr. French from Family Affair. And I had a hunch about him, too. So maybe this 3rd wheel looks more like a fat, bearded butler.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    Oh, and Sebastian Junger.

    This is gonna be the equivalent of release your tax returns or release your birth certificate. Release Sebastian.
    , @carol
    Sebastian was also the narrator's aristocratic friend in Brideshead Revisited.
  36. @Hhsiii
    Sebastian is the gay cousin of Elizabeth Taylor in the Gore Vidal scripted film version of Tennessee William's Suddenly Last Summer. He gets cannibalized by the little street urchin boys he uses Liz Taylor to procure.

    That's the only Sebastian I can recall other than Bach. Or Sebastian Cabot. Mr. French from Family Affair. And I had a hunch about him, too. So maybe this 3rd wheel looks more like a fat, bearded butler.

    Oh, and Sebastian Junger.

    This is gonna be the equivalent of release your tax returns or release your birth certificate. Release Sebastian.

    • Replies: @JsP
    there's always craig kilborn's character "Sebastian: Asexual Icon"
  37. @Das
    Well, yeah. That's something that the anti-immigration right tends to vastly exaggerate.

    The mass immigration over the last 30 years has coincided with Republican gains at every level of government except for the presidency. And because of the electoral college, Hispanics have little impact on the presidential election. Romney could have won 70% of the Hispanic vote and still lost.

    If the plan was to create an unstoppable Democratic majority, it failed miserably.

    It's bad for the country, but not because foreign ringers are swinging a lot of elections to the Democrats.

    Yes, but would any Romney EVER be able to win California? No? Then the Dems have a lock on major electoral college votes and can focus their resources elsewhere.

    Anyway, in an increasingly centralized US, having a blue DC with control over the bureaucracy and judiciary is a lot more important than getting, say, more blue county comptrollers in Alabama.

  38. OT

    An Ivy League dropout now regrets the mistake of having joined ISIS, and wants forgiveness.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Note that he attended Columbia for a semester AFTER serving with ISIS!!
  39. @Ed
    The transvestite angle may be fun, but this is something of a nothing story if you understand how US politics works.

    Because the Supreme Court doesn't allow any limitations on spending -something that makes the US pretty unique among countries that have elections- there are also no limitations on the length of campaigns, and of course it takes alot of money to run for Congress.

    Running for political office means taking a leave of absence from your job, for political activity your boss may disapprove of, in order to seek another job. Most people can't do that. Plus you have to have lots of money yourself or lots of rich friends.

    This is particularly pointless if your opponent pretty much has the district sewn up anyway. And donors won't give to candidates almost certain to lose. This is why the incumbency re-election rate is as high as it is. But it also means that Republicans have a hard time finding people even willing to run in very blue areas, and Democrats have a hard time finding people to run in very red areas.

    So its not unheard of to not have one of the two parties run a candidate at all in a district they have little chance to win anyway. And if they do they often wind up with some kook. Even if they get a pol to run, chances are the pol will put little effort in the campaign, preferring to husband his resources so he can keep or get back his current job. Alvin Greene is one instance of this.

    So in the reddest state in the country, the Democrats wound up with some kook as their Senate candidate, and in one of the reddest House districts, Colorado Springs, they are fielding some kook as the Congressional candidate. This happens basically all the time, just now we get cross-dressing kooks because that's the thing these days.

    In Ft Wayne’s congressional district (very red) the Dems are running a homeless guy. Literally, homeless… living in a motel. There’s a good video on YouTube of him being interviewed drinking beer and smoking cigarettes.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    He actually won a three-way primary with 38% of the vote.
  40. @Das
    Flawed exit polling led a lot of people to believe that Hispanics were turning out in droves, but if you actually look at precinct-level data, it doesn't pan out. Hence the recent NY Times article "There Are a Lot More White Voters Than You Think."

    Even in heavily Hispanic cities like Los Angeles, there are surprisingly few elected Hispanic officials.

    Recent immigrant Hispanics have such low turnout that there are farm communities in California's Central Valley that are 90% Hispanic and yet elect white Republicans to office.

    Assimilated Hispanics who have lived here for generations do a lot better than that, but their turnout is still way below the national average.

    Hispanics in America view voting the way that white Americans view soccer.

    Recent immigrant Hispanics have such low turnout that there are farm communities in California’s Central Valley that are 90% Hispanic and yet elect white Republicans to office.

    Could it be that the mestizo lower-class Mexicans have such a deeply-held cultural subservient/slave mentality that they’re more comfortable being ruled by light-skinned Europeans (as is the case in Mexico)?

  41. OT

    I’d be happy to read Steve’s and his commenters’ point of view regarding the Austrian constitutional court decision.

    I’d think it’s pretty major news that there was widespread electoral fraud in a First World Western European country.

    • Replies: @5371
    I think many people recognized that some votes, especially postal votes, get mishandled most of the time, in most countries. This election was unusual in being so close that the result could not be claimed to be unaffected thereby.
    , @Jean Cocteausten
    Seconded. Would also like some discussion of how Hofer is repeatedly referred to as far right by the media (see BBC coverage). A candidate who wins ~50% of the vote is by definition not far right.
  42. @Das
    Flawed exit polling led a lot of people to believe that Hispanics were turning out in droves, but if you actually look at precinct-level data, it doesn't pan out. Hence the recent NY Times article "There Are a Lot More White Voters Than You Think."

    Even in heavily Hispanic cities like Los Angeles, there are surprisingly few elected Hispanic officials.

    Recent immigrant Hispanics have such low turnout that there are farm communities in California's Central Valley that are 90% Hispanic and yet elect white Republicans to office.

    Assimilated Hispanics who have lived here for generations do a lot better than that, but their turnout is still way below the national average.

    Hispanics in America view voting the way that white Americans view soccer.

    Voting in the CA and SA countries of their origin is staged and controlled. Voting counts for nothing, even in countries where it’s compulsory. That’s where the USA is now. So seems to me the spanish are ahead of the curve for once. Voting, if it mattered they wouldn’t let us do it.

  43. “I’d think it’s pretty major news that there was widespread electoral fraud in a First World Western European country.”

    Irish Republicans have a saying “vote early, vote often” but our New Britons are doing pretty well.

    http://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/search/label/vote%20fraud

    “The pitched battle between Labour and People’s Justice Party supporters was ignited by the appearance of a postman with a bag.

    “Some people tried to get the votes off him and were pinching them out of letterboxes – then all hell broke loose,” said an eyewitness.

    “People were rushing out of their homes to join in the fight. Thugs and gangsters are targeting the postmen every day. Everything is getting out of control.”

    Police today called for calm in the Bordesley Green ward which has chalked up a city record with the highest number of postal votes ever recorded – 8,500 out of a voting population of around 18,000.”

    West Midlands Police confirmed today they were investigating cases of mailmen being threatened with violence if they didn’t hand over bags.

    A postman in Bordesley Green was offered a £500 bribe to give up his sack of postal votes before they were delivered.

    A friend told the Evening Mail: “He was shocked and very distressed because he believes his life could be in danger. He refused the bribe and got somebody to take him by car to the nearest police station.””

    More than 70,000 blank votes are to be delivered before the June 10 polling day for city council and European Parliament seats, compared with 24,000 last year.

    The incidence is highest in inner city wards, particularly Bordesley Green where 8,600 postal votes are being delivered.

    The number of registered voters in the ward is only 18,000.

    Other hot-spots are Washwood Heath, with 5,600 postal votes, Aston, with 5,257, and Spark-brook with 4,510.

    In the outer suburbs Kingstanding has only 670, with Oscott, Selly Oak, and Perry Barr each having less than 800.

    City leader Sir Albert Bore, who faces the end of 20 years’ Labour control of Birmingham, said: “There is a lot going on in this election – particularly in the inner cities.” “

    Btw, the People’s Justice Party was IIRC mostly concerned with Kashmiri rather than British politics.

  44. @Anonymous
    Alix wasn't always a stripper/porn name. It was used among royalty, the most famous recent example being Alix of Hesse, consort of Nicholas II of Russia. However, it has earlier royal antecedents (e.g. Alix of France, daughter of King Louis VII and Eleanor of Aquitaine).

    Hate to tell you, but the spurious aristocracy has been using regal names and titles for some time.

  45. @reiner Tor
    OT

    I'd be happy to read Steve's and his commenters' point of view regarding the Austrian constitutional court decision.

    I'd think it's pretty major news that there was widespread electoral fraud in a First World Western European country.

    I think many people recognized that some votes, especially postal votes, get mishandled most of the time, in most countries. This election was unusual in being so close that the result could not be claimed to be unaffected thereby.

  46. clever use of a throw away election ,bait repubs into micro(macro) aggression then point and sputter.

  47. Colorado, Hispanic, World War T.

    Reminds me of something.

    Oh yeah, right:

    https://countenance.wordpress.com/2016/05/08/the-last-dinosaur/

  48. We’re all gonna need to know this soon, so please help me and anyone else who’s confused. Which is which? Are transgender women men who think they’re women, or vice-versa? I keep forgetting.

  49. @Ed
    The transvestite angle may be fun, but this is something of a nothing story if you understand how US politics works.

    Because the Supreme Court doesn't allow any limitations on spending -something that makes the US pretty unique among countries that have elections- there are also no limitations on the length of campaigns, and of course it takes alot of money to run for Congress.

    Running for political office means taking a leave of absence from your job, for political activity your boss may disapprove of, in order to seek another job. Most people can't do that. Plus you have to have lots of money yourself or lots of rich friends.

    This is particularly pointless if your opponent pretty much has the district sewn up anyway. And donors won't give to candidates almost certain to lose. This is why the incumbency re-election rate is as high as it is. But it also means that Republicans have a hard time finding people even willing to run in very blue areas, and Democrats have a hard time finding people to run in very red areas.

    So its not unheard of to not have one of the two parties run a candidate at all in a district they have little chance to win anyway. And if they do they often wind up with some kook. Even if they get a pol to run, chances are the pol will put little effort in the campaign, preferring to husband his resources so he can keep or get back his current job. Alvin Greene is one instance of this.

    So in the reddest state in the country, the Democrats wound up with some kook as their Senate candidate, and in one of the reddest House districts, Colorado Springs, they are fielding some kook as the Congressional candidate. This happens basically all the time, just now we get cross-dressing kooks because that's the thing these days.

    I live in such a blue area, and yeah candidate recruitment is hard. The good ones basically recruit themselves. They know whether they have the funds and friends and time to do it all. The Dems, on the other hand, are often college professors, teachers or bureaucrats who get “public service” leave with no problem. Or even graduate student from the Environmental Studies dept in between school and career.

    It’s all the GOP can do just to control the legislature. We try to field candidates in each district in order to divert some of the Democrat funding and so that the D incumbent is prevented from legislating between sessions. It’s teamwork with the rest of the state that counts.

    Even knowing that, the resident GOP critics have to engage in recriminations after each election – we need to do something, guys, because we’re losing…it’s just a cudgel to beat up your rivals with. Even when the strategy works and we take both houses of the legislature. I mean what do I care how the legislator from my district votes if overall the result is good?

  50. @Glaivester
    To be fair, the Democratic primary in the Utah Senate race is sort of pointless from a practical standpoint.

    Yeah it seems like Utah Democrats hate Mormons so much that they will support the most deviant people just as a big “fuck you” to the Mormon majority.

    From what I’ve heard about Utah, this is understandable.

  51. @Hhsiii
    Oh, and Sebastian Junger.

    This is gonna be the equivalent of release your tax returns or release your birth certificate. Release Sebastian.

    there’s always craig kilborn’s character “Sebastian: Asexual Icon”

  52. @reiner Tor
    OT

    I'd be happy to read Steve's and his commenters' point of view regarding the Austrian constitutional court decision.

    I'd think it's pretty major news that there was widespread electoral fraud in a First World Western European country.

    Seconded. Would also like some discussion of how Hofer is repeatedly referred to as far right by the media (see BBC coverage). A candidate who wins ~50% of the vote is by definition not far right.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    Thanks for your reply. Am I mad to think that such widespread electoral fraud in a presiential election of a first world European country was unthinkable until... last week? And that that should be a major issue?

    Nobody seems to care much, not even here.
  53. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @gcochran
    I remember a comparable race. Even though it was a conservative, prosperous farm district, the local university made sure that the Democratic party was nuts. So they nominated a radical black lady (in an almost all-white district) who was a political science prof at the local junior college. She went down in flames - got the lowest percentage of any Democratic house candidate in the entire US.

    But could she have starred in Play Misty for Me? Well, she was a close friend - some would say overly close - of her Great Dane. As you probably know, male dogs, when in the throes of passion, can get stuck. Trouble ensued. They covered her and the dog ( on the stretcher together) with a blanket as the ambulance carried the star-crossed lover to the hospital, but it was pretty obvious what was going on, and there was talk. Med students make interesting friends.

    Ordinary measures did not suffice, and it was the dog that paid the ultimate price.

    There's a lesson here somewhere.

    In Canada the dog would not have bee executed but would have been charged with penetrative bestiality.

    However, I guess his defense could be: “She was a real dog!”

  54. @Bugg
    You know nothing of women Misty Snow.

    They probably don’t know about women, other than in the superficial ways of dressing like a woman and putting on exaggerated feminine mannerisms. They aren’t dating, marrying or having kids with women, at least not usually- most are gays.

  55. @Formerly CARealist
    you know, I don't want to believe this story, but my sister works in an ER and the stories she tells are not too far off this line. Perverts will get themselves into some weird predicaments and will require professional help to undo their entanglements.

    One guy managed to get his wedding ring around the end of his member and then couldn't get it off. In the ER the doc was pretty flummoxed. Laser cutter? My sister was off duty before they figured it out.

    I once heard from an EMT that truckers get into strange predicaments. I remember one she told me about who had called in for help. After the ambulance arrived, he briefly talked with one of the EMTs, got calmly into the ambulance, didn’t look anyone in the eye, and rode to the hospital with his head down, not saying a word. Turns out he had been playing hide-and-go-seek with a Mickey’s big mouth bottle and it got stuck.

  56. @reiner Tor
    OT

    An Ivy League dropout now regrets the mistake of having joined ISIS, and wants forgiveness.

    Note that he attended Columbia for a semester AFTER serving with ISIS!!

  57. @Das
    Well, yeah. That's something that the anti-immigration right tends to vastly exaggerate.

    The mass immigration over the last 30 years has coincided with Republican gains at every level of government except for the presidency. And because of the electoral college, Hispanics have little impact on the presidential election. Romney could have won 70% of the Hispanic vote and still lost.

    If the plan was to create an unstoppable Democratic majority, it failed miserably.

    It's bad for the country, but not because foreign ringers are swinging a lot of elections to the Democrats.

    Eventually the added Latinos etc. will push into red areas though. You are right we’re seeing a short-term Republican bump in reaction to that, but as so far no nonwhite group ever votes Republican in large numbers…

  58. Mexico routinely tries to get Mexicans living in the US to vote in Mexican elections by absentee ballot. The results are usually laughable. In last month’s state elections, Mexico’s National Electoral Institute spent about $800.00 USD for each vote that came in from the US:

    https://mexico.quadratin.com.mx/recibe-ine-625-votos-mexicanos-extranjero-invierte-10-mdp/

  59. @anony-mouse
    Waydaminit.

    1/ CO-5 is very GOP and so the Dem is bound to lose. We don't know how hard Martinez worked to win.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado%27s_5th_congressional_district

    2/ I've agreed before that Hispanics don't vote in numbers proportionate to their percentage in the population unless-big unless-a candidate works very hard to anger them into voting.

    Somebody like this:

    https://www.google.com/#q=trump+taco+salad

    The only people who cared about that Cinco de Mayo tweet were terminal whiteliberals like yourself. It is true that distinguished statesmen of the El Cucuy or Piolin school have motivated throngs of vibrant to crowd the streets before but you don’t have to register to riot. Anyway most of Trump’s Spanishy critics are pale Cuban lobbyists who will probably vote for him anyway on the Mr. T principle, to wit, “I need work, foo’ “

  60. @Stephen R. Diamond
    The notion that Latinos can't be bothered to vote doesn't sit well with the view that mass migration exists to increase Democratic voters, does it?

    Only if you’re not paying attention. More illegals = more bureaucrats, social workers, school district administrators, and ambulance-chasing activists = more committed Democrats. It’s obvious that a booming black market of unskilled labor with attendant out-of-wedlock third-world fertility strengthens the left’s electoral agenda in every respect, regardless of how many from the peasant army they can drag to the polls. Besides, doing it that way takes more effort.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    This is a major reason that your local welfare departments work hand-in-hand with NGOs to resettle migrants in your own community: job security and opportunities for promotion.
  61. @Maj. Kong
    Ever been to Seattle?

    “”Hispanics in America view voting the way that white Americans view soccer.””

    “Ever been to Seattle?”

    He said “America”.

  62. @gcochran
    I remember a comparable race. Even though it was a conservative, prosperous farm district, the local university made sure that the Democratic party was nuts. So they nominated a radical black lady (in an almost all-white district) who was a political science prof at the local junior college. She went down in flames - got the lowest percentage of any Democratic house candidate in the entire US.

    But could she have starred in Play Misty for Me? Well, she was a close friend - some would say overly close - of her Great Dane. As you probably know, male dogs, when in the throes of passion, can get stuck. Trouble ensued. They covered her and the dog ( on the stretcher together) with a blanket as the ambulance carried the star-crossed lover to the hospital, but it was pretty obvious what was going on, and there was talk. Med students make interesting friends.

    Ordinary measures did not suffice, and it was the dog that paid the ultimate price.

    There's a lesson here somewhere.

    As Kramer said: “Million-to-one shot, Doc. Million-to-one!”

  63. @JerryC

    Plowright is an Army vet with a wife, Lisa, and a third domestic partner named Sebastian, according to the candidate’s campaign website.
     
    Haha, you just can't make this stuff up. Can America get any weirder? Wait, don't answer that question.

    “Plowright is an Army vet with a wife, Lisa, and a third domestic partner named Sebastian, according to the candidate’s campaign website.”

    Who’s the second? The Gimp?

  64. @anony-mouse
    Waydaminit.

    1/ CO-5 is very GOP and so the Dem is bound to lose. We don't know how hard Martinez worked to win.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado%27s_5th_congressional_district

    2/ I've agreed before that Hispanics don't vote in numbers proportionate to their percentage in the population unless-big unless-a candidate works very hard to anger them into voting.

    Somebody like this:

    https://www.google.com/#q=trump+taco+salad

    “2/ I’ve agreed before that Hispanics don’t vote in numbers proportionate to their percentage in the population unless-big unless-a candidate works very hard to anger them into voting.”

    Doesn’t seem to be hurting him so far:

    Trump leads Hillary among Hispanics

  65. @Das
    Well, yeah. That's something that the anti-immigration right tends to vastly exaggerate.

    The mass immigration over the last 30 years has coincided with Republican gains at every level of government except for the presidency. And because of the electoral college, Hispanics have little impact on the presidential election. Romney could have won 70% of the Hispanic vote and still lost.

    If the plan was to create an unstoppable Democratic majority, it failed miserably.

    It's bad for the country, but not because foreign ringers are swinging a lot of elections to the Democrats.

    “The mass immigration over the last 30 years has coincided with Republican gains at every level of government except for the presidency.”

    Except for the Presidency? The President is the most powerful office in the land, not leastwise because he appoints the federal judiciary, including (the very powerful) Supreme Court Justices. The President and Supreme Court (sort of like Sauron and the Nazgul) are become increasingly powerful, especially as Congress hands up its power and authority.

    The Democrat’s campaign of voter replacement is working quite well.

  66. @Jean Cocteausten
    Seconded. Would also like some discussion of how Hofer is repeatedly referred to as far right by the media (see BBC coverage). A candidate who wins ~50% of the vote is by definition not far right.

    Thanks for your reply. Am I mad to think that such widespread electoral fraud in a presiential election of a first world European country was unthinkable until… last week? And that that should be a major issue?

    Nobody seems to care much, not even here.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    I think it's just hard for outsiders to get a good sense for the electoral processes of other countries, and what they mean. One really needs to have a sense of exactly how these things are ordinarily conducted to get a good grasp. It's too much inside baseball.

    In a way, though, it might actually be a good thing. My suspicion is that the "far right" guy is likely to be elected, and by a bigger margin than he might have been earlier, without any fraud.

    My guess is that Brexit is going to free a lot of voters to vote their minds instead of their guilt.

  67. @Hhsiii
    Sebastian is the gay cousin of Elizabeth Taylor in the Gore Vidal scripted film version of Tennessee William's Suddenly Last Summer. He gets cannibalized by the little street urchin boys he uses Liz Taylor to procure.

    That's the only Sebastian I can recall other than Bach. Or Sebastian Cabot. Mr. French from Family Affair. And I had a hunch about him, too. So maybe this 3rd wheel looks more like a fat, bearded butler.

    Sebastian was also the narrator’s aristocratic friend in Brideshead Revisited.

  68. @reiner Tor
    Thanks for your reply. Am I mad to think that such widespread electoral fraud in a presiential election of a first world European country was unthinkable until... last week? And that that should be a major issue?

    Nobody seems to care much, not even here.

    I think it’s just hard for outsiders to get a good sense for the electoral processes of other countries, and what they mean. One really needs to have a sense of exactly how these things are ordinarily conducted to get a good grasp. It’s too much inside baseball.

    In a way, though, it might actually be a good thing. My suspicion is that the “far right” guy is likely to be elected, and by a bigger margin than he might have been earlier, without any fraud.

    My guess is that Brexit is going to free a lot of voters to vote their minds instead of their guilt.

  69. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Haha, you just can’t make this stuff up. Can America get any weirder?"


    Yes. Yes it most certainly can. Suppose one day another athlete decided to go trans. Completely unexpected and out of the blue, say, oh….perhaps Eldrick?

    Now THAT would certainly shape up the LPGA for certain. Also, uh, Eldrick could in theory then win enough LPGA tournaments to add to his career total of major wins, surpass Nicholas, and thus be declared the ultimate PGA winner in history. After all, winning majors knows no gender (or something like that) and should someone point out that Eldrick didn't actually pass Nicholas as a man, that would be considered transphobic and a major politically incorrect no-no.

    Not saying that Eldrick would actually do such a thing, but, as the clock continues to tick and he simply is not winning any majors, desperate times call for desperate measures. How can he plausibly be considered the greatest golfer ever to play the game when he doesn't have the most majors in history?

    Kind of a win-win for him, actually. If it worked for Caitlyn why not Eldrick (or would it be Eldrina?)

    What the hell?.. That was one incoherent ramble

  70. @Polynikes
    In Ft Wayne's congressional district (very red) the Dems are running a homeless guy. Literally, homeless... living in a motel. There's a good video on YouTube of him being interviewed drinking beer and smoking cigarettes.

    He actually won a three-way primary with 38% of the vote.

  71. @Lot
    Probably both of the trans-misties won because they had Anglo surnames running against Hispanic surnames. In fact Plowright might be the most Anglo surname I have ever seen.

    I assumed her surname was also part of her made-up stripper pseudonym.

    The only way for two women to “plow right” is if one of them has male genitalia.

  72. A politicians true power is expressed in the weakness of his re-election opponent

    This was supposed to be Jeb!’s gig NOT TRUMP.

    How did Mike Lee get to pick the Democrat nominee for Utah?

    “I wanna run against her” lol

  73. @Zach Taylor
    Only if you're not paying attention. More illegals = more bureaucrats, social workers, school district administrators, and ambulance-chasing activists = more committed Democrats. It's obvious that a booming black market of unskilled labor with attendant out-of-wedlock third-world fertility strengthens the left's electoral agenda in every respect, regardless of how many from the peasant army they can drag to the polls. Besides, doing it that way takes more effort.

    This is a major reason that your local welfare departments work hand-in-hand with NGOs to resettle migrants in your own community: job security and opportunities for promotion.

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