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From the Daily Beast:

All that seems to lead into the damaging video of Clinton calling half of Trump supporters a “basket of deplorables,” at a New York fundraiser in September 2016.

That was no slip of the tongue …

“The Deplorables always got a laugh, over living-room chats in the Hamptons, at dinner parties under the stars on Martha’s Vineyard, over passed hors d’oeuvres in Beverly Hills, and during sunset cocktails in Silicon Valley,” Chozick continues.

“‘I really messed up,’ [Clinton] told aides that night,” Chozick writes of the evening when the candidate’s Deplorables shtick went public.

… At a sold out fundraising dinner for gay Wall Streeters in the lavish Old Stock Exchange building in the heart of Wall Street. Barbra Streisand sang an updated version of “Send in the Clowns” with lyrics addressing what Hillary seemed to see as the most burning issue of the campaign: is Trump really a billionaire?

On the night of the election, Chozick describes a dejected Clinton when she was told by campaign staffers that it was over.

“Of all the Brooklyn aides, Jen Palmieri had the most pleasant bedside manner,” Chozick writes. “That made her the designated deliverer of bad news to Hillary. But not this time. She told Robby there was no way she was going to tell Hillary she couldn’t win. That’s when Robby, drained and deflated, watching the results with his team in a room down the hall from Hillary’s suite, labored into the hallway of the Peninsula to break the news.

Hillary didn’t seem all that surprised. ‘I knew it. I knew this would happen to me….’ Hillary said, now within a couple of inches of his face. ‘They were never going to let me be president.’”

Who is “They”?

This They?

… “After the election, Bill would spread a more absurd Times conspiracy: The publisher had struck a deal with Trump that we’d destroy Hillary on her emails to help him get elected, if he kept driving traffic and boosting the company’s stock price.”

 
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  1. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    Who Will Do Our Stuff For Us?

    As more of our economy is digitized and desk based, American consumers increasingly rely on the manual labor of others to enable our cushy lifestyles. With almost-crippling labor shortages in everything from quick-service restaurants to handyman-style companies that clean, care, repair and renovate, who’s going to actually do this work as the labor pool shrinks even more?…

    The most fascinating was a program with its Archadeck brand where franchisees from northern states—where work tends to slow or shutdown during the snowy months—have shipped employees down to its booming Charlotte, North Carolina, market where they can demo and build throughout the year.
    That was the first I’ve heard of a franchise brand implementing such a large-scale labor effort, and something I imagine has been considered out of necessity by brands in several different industries.

    http://www.franchisetimes.com/news/April-2018/Who-Will-Do-Our-Stuff-For-Us/

    Tide goes in, tide goes out. Can’t explain that

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  2. “After the election, Bill would spread a more absurd Times conspiracy: The publisher had struck a deal with Trump that we’d destroy Hillary on her emails to help him get elected,”

    Does the NY Times really have that kind of influence? What fraction of voters even read this?

    Particularly in the states that were the battlegrounds.

    Really kind of curious as to where things go. If you buy a paper like Bezos did the Post, I’m really not sure he is getting much bang for his buck, other than the fact that people in the Beltway probably know what they wrote about any given day.

    But it’s not like controlling the Times or Post is going to light a fire under people’s butts in Peoria to impeach Trump – or vote for Hillary.

    Given the full court press the national media outlets have been putting on Trump, if they don’t produce a major scalp in either the midterms or 2020 (and probably both), I think a lot of well heeled types are going to ask themselves whether these media outlets are worth it at all.

    And despite the current hoopla, are there really definable benefits for companies to advertise on Google or use Facebook data? You’d think, but my understanding is that results seem to have been very sketchy so far.

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    • Replies: @donut
    The NYTs is a totem to the members of that group , it's part of their civic religion . The point isn't to believe it but to revere it .
    , @Ed
    One of the major blind spot of the Clinton machine was ignoring flyover country. They wanted to appeal to people that read the NYT and mass media culture. That’s why they had these ridiculous concerts with JayZ and LeBron James. They also did it to get out the black vote.

    Anyway the Trump people astutely bought ad time in small markets in key states. When Trump team switched out of buying ads in cities like Miami and instead bought in smaller markets, the media went beserk on Twitter. It was proof to them that Trump was running out of money and campaign was on life support. The concept of anyone bothering to reach people outside of large media markets was completely foreign.

    Also Trump’s team astutely made a deal with Sinclair broadcasting which is a major news provider in many local markets. They also bought ads in local papers and when he appeared at a rally in a town it of course dominated the news there. An astute journalist mentioned during the campaign that while the national media’s tone towards Trump was decidedly negative it was less so in local press.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    ...are there really definable benefits for companies to advertise on Google or use Facebook data?

    Having worked in advertising, I can assure you that we were not at all sure ourselves that there are definable benefits for companies to advertise at all. In some cases, obviously, yes. In many others, probably not.

    My wife has a small mail-order business and has recently given up on advertising in magazines. Their ad departments continue to hound her, of course, but she doesn't see a return and their page rates are too expensive. She now advertises on Facebook and she gets these encouraging reports on how may people looked at her ad, liked it, or shared it. But are these stats even reliable? We know Facebook does a lot of lying. However, she has noticed a small uptick in orders so she'll keep advertising on Facebook, largely because it's quite cheap.
    , @carol
    Sheesh. It's not that flyover reads the Times, it's that the rest of the media takes its leads from NYT (and WaPo). Why does local news suddenly start carrying one-off stories that have nothing to do with the locality? Usually some "issue" raised by their heroes back east.

    I think what Hillary really meant is that she expected NYT to carry the day for her, but they let her down. So screw 'em.
    , @ben tillman

    “After the election, Bill would spread a more absurd Times conspiracy: The publisher had struck a deal with Trump that we’d destroy Hillary on her emails to help him get elected,”

    Does the NY Times really have that kind of influence?
     
    Yes, and then some.
    , @athEIst
    I’m really not sure he is getting much bang for his buck.

    The Post (and other papers) have been into same-day-delivery for over a century.
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  3. Every article in the NYT was pro-Clinton and anti-Trump in the run up to the election. They and the rest of the mainstream media were absolutely in the tank for her.

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    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    They and the rest of the mainstream media were absolutely in the tank for her.

    Fox News is also "mainstream" and has far more political influence than the NYT. The New York Times reaches maybe 3M people, the vast majority of whom pick the NYT precisely becauses it reinforces the political views they already hold. Even if the NYT had convinced every one of its Republican readers to vote for Clinton instead of Trump it would make very little difference since almost all those Republican readers live in blue states.
    , @Olorin
    But of course. They are in the consensus-with-each-other-for-establishment-careers biz.

    Their shock that something exists outside their bubble (or perhaps more accurately bell jar) has been delicious to observe.

    Ditto to observing Hillary being taken down by her own conniving, vanity-signalling oral cavity. Anyone that lustful after power, who would misjudge something as profound as calling half the electorate "deplorable," shouldn't be allowed anywhere near big concentrations of geopolitical power whose deployment should involve excellent diplomatic skills.

    Double that for a woman who has a miserable marriage and a Very Special Friend of daughter's age, whom she maneuvered into a similar-appearing grotesque mating sham.
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  4. Perhaps just like the 2016 election, the first term will pull off a stunning win at the 11th hour.

    If that happens — can we please, pretty please drive the damn left into the sea?

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  5. Who is “They”?

    Yeah, that was my immediate response when I read that piece. I think she may be even weirder than she thinks we think she is.

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    • Replies: @Clifford Brown

    Who is “They”?
     
    The Old Ones.
    , @415 reasons
    The American people? White people?
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "I think she may be even weirder than she thinks we think she is."

    Is that possible?
    , @Almost Missouri
    There is no Inner Party.
    , @Pericles
    The R-Russians ...
    , @Hanoi Paris Hilton
    "They", huh? I can't believe how obtuse are some of Mr. Sailer's readers. The doofus-looking young guy, next to whom I'd guess is Tom Steyer or some other ur-PC lefty zillionaire (with Governor Moonbeam, no less, on Mr. Steyer's other side), is/was a Latinx UC Berserkeley student of indeterminate gender fluidity, whose "preferred pronoun" was/is "they". This was before, true to form, he went full-Berserk, and murdered another semi-well-known young woman enviro-vegan-SJW activist, and attempted to murder a second such woman. Sad.
    , @Inquiring Mind
    Rosebud.
    , @anonymous
    I've said it before and I'll say it again: Nixon in a pantsuit...complete with the paranoia and self-pity. The difference is that the Establishment hated him and loved her.
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  6. All that seems to lead into the damaging video of Clinton calling half of Trump supporters a “basket of deplorables,” at a New York fundraiser in September 2016.

    THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE WORK OF RUSSIAN BOTS

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  7. OT 4chan continues to offer more actual news than the Kanye West Fan Club on NPR. Did you know that Nicaragua was on fire? Apparently the government had been raiding the local equivalent of Social Security, and the people found out, and now the army usbeing mobilized.

    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/168914766

    But yeah for real Kanye West has been tweeting some of his best tweets of all time. NPR gave almost a whole segment to that.

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  8. “Of all the Brooklyn aides, Jen Palmieri had the most pleasant bedside manner,” Chozick writes.

    LOL, that’s hilarious. Imagine being woken up by this mug to be told you’re going to lost the presidency to DJT

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    Very subtle, sir. Like you don't see what she, Hillary, and Huma might have in common.
    , @Kevin in Ohio
    That’s a man, baby!
    , @Clifford Brown
    Revealing discussion by various Clinton and Trump campaign advisors, including Jennifer Palmieri, Robby Mook, Kellyanne Conway and Corey Lewandowski at Harvard.

    https://soundcloud.com/harvardiop/roundtable-discussion-the-general-election

    At 1:40:20 Jennifer Palmieri says that Clinton's "Basket of Deplorables" speech was the highpoint of her campaign. Quite revealing. Dogma over strategy is exactly why Clinton lost. Palmieri said that she would rather lose an election the way Clinton did, than win the way Trump did. Kellyanne Conway provides an excellent refutation.

    Good recap from one commentator from Soundcloud.
    "A big shouting match goes from around 56:30-58:30. Also they argue about the idea of the Russian thing being real or not between 1:33:26-1:34:00. Start at 1:35:40-1:36:05 for a joke. Start at 1:36:05 to hear Conway talk about why Steve Bannon was hired. Things get heated from 1:43:35-1:44:30 and “you guys are bitter” is said. From 1:45:50-1:46:30 things get heated again. Beginning at 1:50:00 they begin talking about what happened in the last 10 days of the campaigns."
    , @TTSSYF
    Not sure I believe this recounting of election night. Are we to believe that she went to bed and was sound asleep while it was playing out? If so, it was probably only because she was slamming down hard liquor all night, watching the returns. Her face that morning certainly looked like she hadn't had a minute of sleep.
    , @NickG
    Likely carpet muncher.
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  9. God smiled on America that night when HRC lost the election.

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    God doesn't exist.
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  10. The sad thing is that the one accomplishment Trump can claim, the tax cuts, exclusively benefit all those people who were laughing at the deplorables in Hamptons, Beverly Hills, Silicon Valley, Manhattan. All deplorables have gotten out of Trump is hot rhetoric.

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    • Agree: Simon in London
    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    You're repeating the so-called mainstream media's big lie. My net pay increased in February, and I'm as far removed from those enclaves you mention as one can be. In addition, we got a Constitutionalist on the Supreme Court and our SOB in the White House (we nominated a Boy Scout in 2012, and the Left turned him into an SOB...so this time, we saved them the effort and gave them the real thing).
    , @William Badwhite
    However "those people who were laughing at the deplorables in Hamptons, Beverly Hills, Silicon Valley, Manhattan" lost some pretty big state tax deductions.
    , @Jack Hanson
    Oh boy, I see ShareBlue learned nothing from the election with this new wave of "argument by assertion" blackpill bots.

    Yeah tell me how taking out the mortgage tax deduction helped the blue states. All ears.
    , @Polynikes
    Not really. Parts of it penalizes high income individuals in high tax states (eg. California, NY, Illinois...).
    , @The preferred nomenclature is...
    Do you prepare your own income tax return?
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  11. I think Bill would be a very entertaining guy to quote off the cuff. I doubt Hillary is that way though.

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  12. ‘They were never going to let me be president.’”

    Completely tone-deaf. TPTB were so convinced that cankles had it in the bag, they put it on cruise control and fell asleep at the wheel.

    LOL, that’s hilarious. Imagine being woken up by this mug to be told you’re going to lost the presidency to DJT

    Yeah, now imagine you’re a crazy catty narcissistic yenta like Hillary; sending an ugly, post-menopausal, servile woman is the safe bet.

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Svigor....."Let me be president." That's major ballsy, but we let Obama be president and we didn't like that.
    , @Bernardista

    Completely tone-deaf. TPTB were so convinced that cankles had it in the bag, they put it on cruise control and fell asleep at the wheel.
     
    Nailed it.
    , @El Dato
    "The Uber self-driving presidency"
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  14. @slumber_j

    Who is “They”?
     
    Yeah, that was my immediate response when I read that piece. I think she may be even weirder than she thinks we think she is.

    Who is “They”?

    The Old Ones.

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  15. “Who is “They”?”

    The Deep State transgendered?

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  16. ‘They’ Theory doesn’t work in 2016. It does work in 2008. That was supposed to be her year.

    But ‘they’ really did a job on her and pushed Obama to the top.

    Or maybe Pablo Gomez has powers we don’t know about.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/pablo-gomez-jr-is-suspected-of-homicide-but-they-deserve-to-be-known-by-the-gender-pronoun-they-prefer/

    They Pride.

    That’s so They.

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  17. Unz’s piece on conspiracy theories is one of the best because it goes straight to the problem that when you believe in it, it’s a distinct possibility or an untold story, and when I believe in it, it’s a lunatic conspiracy theory. Obviously the solution is to reject easy names and apply the exact same standards you would if no sanity was in doubt and no giggling was audible.
    >is there a source? How credible is that source?
    >How credible are the attacks on that source (cf Hitchens’ book on Mother Teresa being called “awful” but not “wrong”)?
    >does this follow or dramatically depart from established patterns?
    >Did three thousand twitter accounts just come out of nowhere at the same time to spread, or to discredit, this idea, using suspiciously similar language?
    I don’t think it makes me a thin-metal haberdasher to look at the Clintons as a ruling caste, top level group. They are part of the “they” and that renders absurd their attempt to use the word “they.” Especially in light of the establishment, academic, bureaucratic, and media wall of support for Hillary — and the totally baseless certainty that she would win — I cannot name a “they” who would have interfered with Her Turn. Last time I checked no “They” had an issue with a woman leading the IMF.
    With that said, just to be safe, maybe there really is a They who preferred a decade-project-upsetting chaos candidate with no political experience to a well-established clubmember. It upsets so many patterns that you can’t even visualize it.
    More likely, let’s connect this to the Starbucks Dark Roasting and the Night of Unbroken Bants: if Hillary don’ fee’ no ways tih’d talkin’ to black people in a caricature of their speech patterns, would it be beyond the pale for her to appeal to their weather-control notions of How Things Work?
    … that being said it is verifiably true that major establishment media brands were not only dying, but were shown to be lying about their readership, and that Trump Derangement Syndrome and Tweet Analysis has brought them back to having something of an audience. I can’t see that being the result of an arrangement with Trump, though.

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    a thin-metal haberdasher
     
    Excellent! I'll be using that.
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  18. @Lugash

    “Of all the Brooklyn aides, Jen Palmieri had the most pleasant bedside manner,” Chozick writes.
     
    LOL, that's hilarious. Imagine being woken up by this mug to be told you're going to lost the presidency to DJT

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Jennifer_Palmieri%2C_Aug._2013_%28cropped%29.jpg

    Very subtle, sir. Like you don’t see what she, Hillary, and Huma might have in common.

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  19. “They”

    The American people. All progressives and leftists hope to get by the finish line with lies, envy and distortion. They all fear that the people will get wise and “they” will snatch victory away at the last moment.

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  20. “They” are the Holy Trinity. Divine Providence gave us Trump.

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  21. Every time someone sheds a tear over Hillary losing, an angel gets its wings.

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    • Agree: ic1000, NickG
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  22. @Lugash

    “Of all the Brooklyn aides, Jen Palmieri had the most pleasant bedside manner,” Chozick writes.
     
    LOL, that's hilarious. Imagine being woken up by this mug to be told you're going to lost the presidency to DJT

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Jennifer_Palmieri%2C_Aug._2013_%28cropped%29.jpg

    That’s a man, baby!

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  23. Who is “They”?

    Occam would say the American* voters.

    But it’s unlikely she’d be grown up enough to concede that. The first draft of her (latest) memoir had her saying she lost because she wasn’t a member of the club. Someone wiser– maybe Miss Palmieri– whispered over her shoulder, and the final product admitted the truth. She lost because she very much was a member of the club.

    *Or, to be precise, the voters of America’s constituent states; “Americans” don’t vote.)

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  24. ‘They Were Never Going to Let Me Be President’
    By AMY CHOZICK
    APRIL 20, 2018

    I figured that if anyone knew whom Mrs. Clinton was referring to with that insidious “they” that, like some invisible army of adversaries (real and imagined), wielded its collective power and caused her to lose the most winnable presidential election in modern history, it was me.

    They were the vast-right wing conspiracy. They were the patriarchy that could never let an ambitious former first lady finally shatter “that highest, hardest glass ceiling.” They were the people of Wisconsin and James Comey. They were white suburban women who would rather vote for a man who bragged about sexual assault than a woman who seemed an affront to who they were.

    And yes, they were political reporters (“big egos and no brains,” she called us) hounding her about her emails and transfixed by the spectacle of the first reality TV show candidate.

    It’s dizzying to realize that without even knowing it, you’ve ended up on the wrong side of history. Months after the election, every time I heard the words “Russia” and “collude,” this realization swirled in my head, enveloping everything.
    ……

    The Bernie Bros and Mr. Trump’s Twitter trolls had called me a donkey-faced whore and a Hillary shill, but nothing hurt worse than my own colleagues calling me a de facto instrument of Russian intelligence. The worst part was, they were right.

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    oh my goodness, Hillary is right! These people are big ego, no brains!
    , @El Dato
    I don't understand this article.

    Is the author in a bubble or irreality where shadowy outside forces steal Hillary's victory and she (the author) is an accomplice in this for writing about Podesta's e-mail or is she saying it's all bullshit by navel-gazing irresponsible freaks in a hall of mirrors and the complainers should go f*ck themselves?
    , @The Craw
    Wait! So she IS a donkey faced whore?!
    Wow, that took guts on her part!
    , @CJ
    The Bernie Bros and Mr. Trump’s Twitter trolls had called me a donkey-faced whore and a Hillary shill...

    Translation: the “donkey faced whore” epithet actually came from another progressive. To whom it never occurred that ze was using the Democrat mascot.
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  25. If the Clintons believe the NY Times swung the election against Hillary to improve their share price. We dodged a bigger bullet than anyone could have realized. It can’t be that hard for people who them well to manipulate them if they are this paranoid and delusional.

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  26. As a Christian I shouldn’t find satisfaction in another’s demise, but Hillary is such an evil bitch that I was so ecstatic at 3 a.m. Nov 9 and wanted to see that demon give a concession speech. She let me down. I watch replays of TYT or Maddow election night coverage to get that satisfaction. I’m not the only one judging by the # of views. She is truly hated, and now more and more by Dems as well.

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    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    I agree that her refusal to deliver a concession speech was the culminating disgrace of her candidacy. And (also speaking as a Christian) it was delicious.

    My conclusion at the time is that she was simply unfit to do so: too drunk, too enraged. I don’t know if her lackies had to restrain her physically or medicinally, but it wouldn’t surprise me. Nothing I’ve read since then has caused me to alter that conclusion. Someone must have video of at least part of that night, though, and I look forward to its release.
    , @Lot
    The day after Trump won I spent a few hours posting Pepes on left wing and MSM sites.

    Such optimism I had then.

    , @Svigor
    Hillary refusing to give a concession speech is the perfect icing on the "OMG Trump refused to promise to bow and scrape to Hillary if she wins" cake. A non-concession concession speech might've been better, though.
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  27. Get ready. Hillary is going to run again in 2020. As long as she’s drawing breath, she’s running.

    She’s kryptonite now. A gift that keeps on giving.

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    "Get ready. Hillary is going to run again in 2020."

    I think you are absolutely right! My friends (the Democrat ones especially) laugh at me, but she is Jason in Friday the 13th.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Mo, I think that Hillary drained her well of donations last time around and I don't think the DNC is in her hip pocket anymore. Bernie will run again and the far left will shred themselves trying to decide if Corey Booker, Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris should get the nod.
    , @Crawfurdmuir

    She’s kryptonite now. A gift that keeps on giving.
     
    A gift, one might say, of great Giftigkeit.
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Get ready. Hillary is going to run again in 2020. As long as she’s drawing breath, she’s running.
     
    She may well run, but she won't be the nominee.
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  28. Clinton’s speculations about the NYT being in cahoots with Trump make him sound as clueless and conspiracy minded as the guy on the next bar stool over.

    On the other hand, there is no doubt that Trump drove traffic and ratings, so he was a kind of catnip the media couldn’t resist.

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  29. I was going to write something,but when I saw this tweet I knew I could not express my sentiments about this post any better:

    Incredible to me that someone who was handed a Senate seat and then for no reason at all made secstate and then had the path to a nomination bulldozed for her and then got the exact opponent she pushed for…still talks like this. Gross. pic.twitter.com/Zy27DP2SJs— Seth Mandel (@SethAMandel) April 20, 2018

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    • Replies: @Berty
    She was made SOS to placate the neoliberals in the party. Otherwise they would have stabbed Obama in the back and he never would have gotten health care done.
    , @AnotherDad

    Incredible to me that someone who was handed a Senate seat and then for no reason at all made secstate and then had the path to a nomination bulldozed for her and then got the exact opponent she pushed for…still talks like this. Gross.
     
    Exactly.

    It's actually even worse. Hillary has been either a mediocrity or, often, an outright failure at every position she has occupied her whole life.

    Look through the list:
    -- lawyer -- Whitewater
    -- Arkansas first lady -- cattle futures
    -- Health care task force leader -- disaster
    -- First lady -- a net negative for her husband
    -- NY Senator -- ok, this one is just mediocre, nothing of note
    -- Pres candidate #1 -- frontrunner, blew it
    -- Sec of State -- overall failure, bengazi disaster, plus email scandal

    It's actually a record of continual incompetence and failure. And yet believes because she's failed upward, that she's somehow "paid her dues" or "has the resume" and deserves to be the first female President.

    The idea that one is expected to actually *perform* and *excel* in a particular position to deserve the next position seems beyond her.

    Hillary might be surprised but there are actually a fair number of American men and women who actually do superb work at their jobs--maybe an occasional misstep they learn from--and slowly climb up. Most folks don't get to screw up repeatedly and get to "fail up".
    , @Laugh Track

    I was going to write something,but when I saw this tweet I knew I could not express my sentiments about this post any better:

    Incredible to me that someone who was handed a Senate seat and then for no reason at all made secstate and then had the path to a nomination bulldozed for her and then got the exact opponent she pushed for…still talks like this. Gross. pic.twitter.com/Zy27DP2SJs— Seth Mandel (@SethAMandel) April 20, 2018
     
    Entertaining tweet. Slugfest in the comments, though. Hell hath no fury like a highly indignant prog!
    , @Svigor
    What's really trippy is the women who buy into her "I'm doing this for all women"/"a blow against me is a blow against all women"/"first woman president" schtick. Like how bad does a candidate have to be before women overwhelmingly laugh this stuff off, or condemn it? Would she need horns and a tail and red skin to make women get the picture?
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  30. Who is “They”?

    They’s the Vast, Right-Wing, Genderqueer, Menshevik-Bolshevik-Cossack Conspiracy. Clearly they has a hold of your bodily fluids.

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  31. @istevefan
    I was going to write something,but when I saw this tweet I knew I could not express my sentiments about this post any better:

    Incredible to me that someone who was handed a Senate seat and then for no reason at all made secstate and then had the path to a nomination bulldozed for her and then got the exact opponent she pushed for...still talks like this. Gross. pic.twitter.com/Zy27DP2SJs— Seth Mandel (@SethAMandel) April 20, 2018
     

    She was made SOS to placate the neoliberals in the party. Otherwise they would have stabbed Obama in the back and he never would have gotten health care done.

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  32. Anon[304] • Disclaimer says:

    I have always thought Hillary Clinton is a masochist. She shares that trait with Nixon. Nixon wrote a book about his Six Crises, but they were all entirely of his own making, and he could have stayed out of trouble if he wanted it.

    Clinton has the exact same trait. She has gotten into an incredible amount of messes entirely of her own making, and and she has never been able to stay out of trouble for any particular length of time.

    For a masochist, being in trouble is a psychological necessity. They seek it deliberately. I’m glad she didn’t become president, because she’s probably get us nuked.

    I think it started with her father, who browbeat her thoroughly when she was young, and she soon began to associate parental love–and then love in general–with being pushed around. That’s why she started out as a Goldwater girl, which is lunacy if you’re a feminist. Then in the late 60s, she went to the other extreme, when the hippies were beginning to wear out their welcome. If you wanted to become unpopular with the majority at that particular time, being a hardcore left-wing hippie was the way to do it. That’s why Nixon got elected. The majority were scared by all the crazy left-wingers.

    Then she married a guy whom she had to know was a womanizer. Bill Clinton chased every woman in sight, and she has stuck by him despite his infidelities, which is classic masochism. She then invested in cattle futures, which is insanely risky and could have destroyed the Clintons’ finances entirely, and she ended up having to be rescued by people who wanted to do the Clintons a favor.

    She ran against Obama, and got beaten like a donkey by him, and what did she do? She went to work for him. Classic masochism. She wanted more suffering. She knew perfectly well when it came to a lightweight like Obama, she would take the blame for his mistakes. She failed to show due diligence in a country that was collapsing and undergoing utter chaos, namely Libya, and got into trouble for that, even though she could have avoided it by using a little common sense. Of course you have to protect your Embassy when a country is falling apart. Any idiot knows that.

    Then she blithely put all her classified emails on an unprotected server. Any rational person could guess she would be spied on. She stuffed her pockets via the Clinton Foundation with as much loot as she could, thoroughly disgracing herself in the eyes of anyone concerned with financial malfeasance. This is why Bernie Sanders made such inroads among Democrats. Any politician with any common sense knows you get rich after you’re out of office, not before. Doing so beforehand makes you look like a greedy hog on the take and ruins your reputation and your chance to get elected.

    Even now, she’s doing the rounds complaining and carrying on in such a sour old bag manner that she has spoiled her reputation even among Democrats, and they’re so sick of her they will never pick her to run in 2020. Clinton is complaining longer and more relentlessly than any other loser in any other presidential election that we’ve ever had. This is Clinton deliberately choosing to sabotage herself again.

    All the above are not examples of stupidity. Hillary Clinton is not stupid. She’s doing things like this deliberately to make trouble for herself because she gets a psychological kick out of being in trouble.

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    She failed to show due diligence in a country that was collapsing and undergoing utter chaos, namely Libya

     

    It wouldn't have collapsed without a good solid push from the West though. A bit like Syria (ongoing).
    , @anonymous
    I believe you may be right. Well considered and said.
    , @TTSSYF
    Could also be described as a martyr for the feminist cause. I think, by "they", she means the male power structure, whether Left or Right.
    , @Thirdtwin
    "I think it started with her father..."

    And it ended with Tim Kaine, a guy who looks like her father.


    https://althouse.blogspot.com/2016/09/i-just-noticed-that-hillarys-dad-looks.html?m=1
    , @PapayaSF
    Everything you write fits except for the cattle futures, which was a bribe/payoff of some sort. The commodities dealer was crooked, and simply assigned her the winning trades and some other client the losing trades. He was later convicted of exactly that (though not in her case). That's why she made a big score just once and never did commodities trading again.
    , @Unladen Swallow
    Its not because of masochism, it's hubris. She constantly overestimates her own abilities and intelligence. Bill was a necessary evil to make her a front runner presidential candidate, so was serving as Obama's SofS.
    , @SOL
    So glad that bitch is not president.

    "All the above are not examples of stupidity. Hillary Clinton is not stupid. She’s doing things like this deliberately to make trouble for herself because she gets a psychological kick out of being in trouble."

    Not because she's a narcissist? Or has BPD?
    , @Jack D

    She then invested in cattle futures, which is insanely risky and could have destroyed the Clintons’ finances entirely, and she ended up having to be rescued by people who wanted to do the Clintons a favor.
     
    The way she did it, it wasn't risky at all. It was just a pure bribe (any Republican would be in jail for this). The way it worked was that the brokers bribing her (her husband actually) already knew the results of the trades involved. They assigned the winning trades to her and the losing trades to some poor schmuck client of theirs.

    The Clintons are probably the most corrupt couple ever to occupy the White House. That the Democrat Party hitched their wagon to them is breathtaking. Trump is no angel either but he never pretended to be one. Generally speaking, all over the world the voter don't really give a damn about corruption as long as they perceive the candidates as being on their side. If Candidate X is helping out the average person, the fact that he keeps a little for himself is only a just reward. The problem with Hillary is that she was not interested in helping out the average American either. She didn't even pretend to be, as her husband did.
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  33. @Lugash

    “Of all the Brooklyn aides, Jen Palmieri had the most pleasant bedside manner,” Chozick writes.
     
    LOL, that's hilarious. Imagine being woken up by this mug to be told you're going to lost the presidency to DJT

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Jennifer_Palmieri%2C_Aug._2013_%28cropped%29.jpg

    Revealing discussion by various Clinton and Trump campaign advisors, including Jennifer Palmieri, Robby Mook, Kellyanne Conway and Corey Lewandowski at Harvard.

    At 1:40:20 Jennifer Palmieri says that Clinton’s “Basket of Deplorables” speech was the highpoint of her campaign. Quite revealing. Dogma over strategy is exactly why Clinton lost. Palmieri said that she would rather lose an election the way Clinton did, than win the way Trump did. Kellyanne Conway provides an excellent refutation.

    Good recap from one commentator from Soundcloud.
    “A big shouting match goes from around 56:30-58:30. Also they argue about the idea of the Russian thing being real or not between 1:33:26-1:34:00. Start at 1:35:40-1:36:05 for a joke. Start at 1:36:05 to hear Conway talk about why Steve Bannon was hired. Things get heated from 1:43:35-1:44:30 and “you guys are bitter” is said. From 1:45:50-1:46:30 things get heated again. Beginning at 1:50:00 they begin talking about what happened in the last 10 days of the campaigns.”

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    Was told in Feburary 2016 by guys in Democratic PR firm that Hilary would find a way to lose the election. Their take is that Hilary thinks she is better at everyone's job than they are, and if you disagree strongly with her it validates that opinion and she fires you.
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    My understnding is that Bill warned them about ignoring white working-class voters. But Hillary rejected that idea in favor of Robby Mook’s . Good move, HC. Afterall, what would Bill know about winning national elections? Maybe Steve can weigh in but i would bet that Bill has 10-15 IQ points on Hillary or Obama. Of course, Hillary’s real problem is a deep dislike for the white working class. And the thought of trying to appeal to them, especially the men, completely repulsive to her.
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  34. Completely OT:

    I saw the movie “300″ this week for the first time, based on the repeated references to the movie here in the comments section. I cannot believe this movie somehow got made. Wow. Is this the most subversive Hollywood movie every made? Simply incredible.

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    Subversive of what? Because "Iranians are monsters" is a (((pretty standard))) line.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Bleu, I am confused by your comment. "300" had a base in history, enough gore for the Tarantino blood porn fans, enough buff bodies for the gay market and horny gals, a rape scene and just a touch of nudity to add a little tenderness. Who wouldn't back this movie?
    , @SimpleSong
    I knew some Persians who were super angry about that movie. Their primary complaint was that the Persian emperor Xerxes looked black.
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  35. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/04/us/politics/hillary-clinton-fundraising.html

    “I stand between you and the apocalypse,” a confident Mrs. Clinton declared to laughs, exhibiting a flash of self-awareness and humor to a crowd that included Calvin Klein and Harvey Weinstein and for whom the prospect of a Donald J. Trump presidency is dire.

    Poor Harvey had no idea what was coming.

    As noted here previously, Hillary Clinton chose to spend August and the first week of September of 2016 in the Hamptons with her neighbor Harvey Weinstein and big donors, such as Lynn De Rothschild, as opposed to stumping through the blue collar districts of Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

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    I don't know why Weinstein would be worried then - because generally, Trump's been excellent to Jews, and this wasn't hard to foresee. Has he targeted Hollywood, and was this foreseeable?
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  36. Hillary *IS* weird and icky. In related news, the “wholesome” Allison Mack of TV’s “Smallville” fame has been arrested for being part of a sex cult that had her branding women on the private parts with the initials of the cult leader while telling them to think of their master. She was lured into the cult by co-star Kristin Kreuk and Richard Branson was allegedly also part of the cult.

    Point being, random celebrities seem weird and icky. Just image how weird and icky Hillary! really is – this is a big part of the revolt of the Deplorables. The internet exposes even the most minor random celebrity as being .. well downright weird.

    By contrast Trump seems a man of normal appetites. Not weird. Not icky.

    Imagine, Hillary as the candidate of Gay Wall Streeters. Babura singing like a Mecha Streisand. A more perfect Hillary! moment cannot be imagined.

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    You do have a point. I gave no credit to planted rumors that he liked underage girls or twisted activities, if only because his predilection for bosomy models and showgirls is so well-known. He's a dawg, alright, but a fairly conventional one.
    , @Neoconned
    https://artvoice.com/2018/04/18/crimes-secrets-allison-mack-nicki-clyne-top-members-nxivm-sex-slaver-cult/#.WtupsHNOmKo

    This is really good reading....

    You can build you a harem of dumb white women just by spouting eat pray live mumbo jumbo and by being into BDSM type stuff.

    I bet the women who turned him in were mad because he wouldn't spend enough time w him and we're just jealous.....
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  37. Who is “They”?

    Koch Brothers, Russian Trolls, Haven Monahan, David Duke …

    You know, the people who really run the country.

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  38. She really is such a nasty woman.

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  39. Trump has many, many faults. I often think that he is nothing more than a bullshit artist who is in waaaay over his head.

    That being said, every time I see the arrogant, narcissistic, fat-assed, drunken Hillary stumbling around and breaking bones and whining and bitching and moaning and fantasizing about how she really should be president but got shafted by all the white men who browbeat women and Negroes into voting against her, I thank God Almighty for delivering Donald Trump to save the Republic from her… if only temporarily.

    But the people who voted for Hillary are coming back with a vengeance in 2020 and beyond, and I fear that it is asking too much to pin our entire future on Trump’s success or failure. Trump is a very, very flawed savior… sooner or later this is going to get settled in the streets.

    https://www.ajc.com/news/national/hillary-clinton-breaks-wrist-fall-bathtub-indian-palace/uzolVoZXTgq3dPtioXN6KP/

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/13/hillary-clinton-blames-pressure-from-men-for-why-white-women-voted-for-trump.html

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/bitter-hillary-fantasizes-leaving-earth-president-another-planet/

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    What was the 9/11 memorial collapse all about?

    Impressive how the media thought they weren't tough enough on Trump, or how the Russia thing has metamorphisised.
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  40. In conspiracy that turned out to be true news, today there were follow-on arrests for the surgically branded Hollywood starlet slaves of NXIVM (pronounced “Nexium,” which I’m pretty sure is a brand name prescription medication), after the cult leader was arrested earlier in Mexico. They have ties to Spirit Cooking performance artist Marina Abramovic and to a son of a former president of Mexico, and claim to have hosted thousands at their seminars. Like Scientology or the Gulen “cult,” they were less of a religion and more of a pseudo-psychological self-actualization scam.
    But this wasn’t so fat fetched. Hollywood women love cults and will often join them if their careers go sideways. Much easier to believe than somebody letting Hillary be Senator and the worst secretary of state in the entire history of the office to include Teapot Dome, but somehow not President.

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    NXIVM's founder, Keith Raniere, reportedly credits Ayn Rand's writings as a source of his ideas.

    Rand's original cult has had a funny way of inspiring spinoff cults: John Williamson's Sandstone Retreat, which focused on nudism and free love (Gay Talese profiles him in is book, Thy Neighbor's Wife); Anton LaVey's Church of Satan; Frank Wallace's Neo-Tech (a friend of mine called Wallace's writings "Ayn Rand on acid"); and now Raniere's operation.
    , @wren
    Check this guy's sex cult out, if you haven't already (the pics alone are worth the click):

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-inside-the-muslim-sex-cult-whose-leader-is-embraced-by-israeli-figures-1.5961420

    , @Anonymous
    Can you provide a link to a reputable source?
    , @utu
    Sara and Clare Bronfman, daughters of Edgar Bronfman Sr. (Seagram, former World Jewish Congress president) allegedly put $150 millions of their money in to this cult.

    The Heiresses and the Cult
    https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010/11/bronfman-201011
    , @Crawfurdmuir

    Hollywood women love cults and will often join them if their careers go sideways.
     
    When I read about cults and strange practices like "spirit cooking" amongst the rich and politically connected, I am reminded of the "Affair of the Poisons" at the court of Louis XIV in the late seventeenth century. This centered around a fortune-teller called La Voisin, who catered to the idle women of the court, and in the course of her business found out all about their worries and problems. To deal with these she could provide poisons to dispose of husbands and fathers whose longevity had proven inconvenient to her clients, procure abortions, and dispose of unwanted babies. The latter were used in black masses, most famously one celebrated over the naked body of Mme de Montespan, one of the king's mistresses, who feared that her career was about to "go sideways." In these ceremonies La Voisin partnered with a crooked priest, the abbé Guibourg:

    "A long black velvet pall was spread over the altar, and upon this the royal mistress laid herself in a state of perfect nudity. Six black candles were lit, the celebrant robed himself in a chasuble embroidered with esoteric characters wrought in silver, the gold paten and chalice were placed upon the naked belly of the living altar [...] All was silent save for the low monotonous murmur of the blasphemous liturgy [...] An assistant crept forward bearing an infant in her arms. The child was held over the altar, a sharp gash across the neck, a stifled cry, and warm drops fell into the chalice and streamed upon the white figure beneath. The corpse was handed to la Voisin, who flung it callously into an oven fashioned for that purpose which glowed white-hot in its fierceness."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Étienne_Guibourg

    The remains of some 2500 infants were found buried on La Voisin's premises. According to some accounts, body parts of the sacrificed or aborted children were occasionally sold for various occult uses.

    Hollywood has made movies glorifying abortion, e.g., "The Cider House Rules" or "Vera Drake." Perhaps the next will be one portraying La Voisin as a protomartyr of feminism, a veritable precursor of Planned Parenthood!

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  41. The general problem with high level Democrats is that they live in such a tightly sealed bubble that they actually don’t realize how much ordinary Americans despise them, and this has been the case for decades. Pauline Kael’s notorious observation “I don’t know a single person who voted for Richard Nixon” is now almost fifty years old, and things have only gotten worse.

    One of the major problems for Democrats is that the Press, Academia, and Hollywood have become so obsequious in shilling for Democratic candidates that they get no quality information about issues, campaigns, opponents, really much of anything but self serving fantasies about how wonderful Democrats are, and how much everyone loves them. (Republicans are actually improved by Press hostility – weak candidates are weeded out, strong candidates become even stronger.) So when Democrats lose, they actually cannot believe it. Since the voters looooove them, and they are told this every day, there has to be SOME explanation other than voter rejection for their losses.

    The Democrats, apparently through chicanery, nominated a Candidate who has worked paying jobs for maybe ten years of her life, but was worth a quarter of a billion; had more unflattering nicknames than every other Presidential Candidate in US history combined; and was running on a ticket for a Party that had spent eight years nuking coal country while deliberately pursuing racial divisiveness on every level; but CLEARLY she lost because she was cheated.

    Wow.

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    theMann, Obama's work resume' was thinner than Hillary's but he was the niche candidate, the first black president. Hillary was the next niche up, the first female president, to be followed by the first Hispanic, gay, trans whatever.
    , @Authenticjazzman
    It all boils down to one single word, one single expression which the democrats wield with relentless fervor and zeal, and which, this one single word, has handed them every unearned victory since FDR, and just what is this one specific word, okay I won't torture you any longer, this word is :

    FAIR

    They have monopolized and rode this expression 24/7 for the last eighty years, in spite of the blatent BS, lies, distortion, and hypocracy behind their employment of this expression.

    In every school, university and religious entity, they have been propagandizing the hapless, clueless public to believe, and accept that they , the democrats are : Fair, and the evil republicans are unfair, and this sums it all up, of course also taking into consideration the myriads of offshoots from this one specific word.

    Authenticjazzaman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.
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  42. Who is “They”?

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  43. @J.Ross
    In conspiracy that turned out to be true news, today there were follow-on arrests for the surgically branded Hollywood starlet slaves of NXIVM (pronounced "Nexium," which I'm pretty sure is a brand name prescription medication), after the cult leader was arrested earlier in Mexico. They have ties to Spirit Cooking performance artist Marina Abramovic and to a son of a former president of Mexico, and claim to have hosted thousands at their seminars. Like Scientology or the Gulen "cult," they were less of a religion and more of a pseudo-psychological self-actualization scam.
    But this wasn't so fat fetched. Hollywood women love cults and will often join them if their careers go sideways. Much easier to believe than somebody letting Hillary be Senator and the worst secretary of state in the entire history of the office to include Teapot Dome, but somehow not President.

    NXIVM’s founder, Keith Raniere, reportedly credits Ayn Rand’s writings as a source of his ideas.

    Rand’s original cult has had a funny way of inspiring spinoff cults: John Williamson’s Sandstone Retreat, which focused on nudism and free love (Gay Talese profiles him in is book, Thy Neighbor’s Wife); Anton LaVey’s Church of Satan; Frank Wallace’s Neo-Tech (a friend of mine called Wallace’s writings “Ayn Rand on acid”); and now Raniere’s operation.

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  44. @J.Ross
    In conspiracy that turned out to be true news, today there were follow-on arrests for the surgically branded Hollywood starlet slaves of NXIVM (pronounced "Nexium," which I'm pretty sure is a brand name prescription medication), after the cult leader was arrested earlier in Mexico. They have ties to Spirit Cooking performance artist Marina Abramovic and to a son of a former president of Mexico, and claim to have hosted thousands at their seminars. Like Scientology or the Gulen "cult," they were less of a religion and more of a pseudo-psychological self-actualization scam.
    But this wasn't so fat fetched. Hollywood women love cults and will often join them if their careers go sideways. Much easier to believe than somebody letting Hillary be Senator and the worst secretary of state in the entire history of the office to include Teapot Dome, but somehow not President.

    Check this guy’s sex cult out, if you haven’t already (the pics alone are worth the click):

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-inside-the-muslim-sex-cult-whose-leader-is-embraced-by-israeli-figures-1.5961420

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    Woah. Where do I sign up?
    , @J.Ross
    This is one of many stories that popped up at 4chan at first as rumor (or in this case, the obsession of a particular blogger who was accused of being in love with Raniere's stable), then wouldn't go away, and finally resulted in real prosecutions. There will be more like this. There have already been many more pedophile arrests than was normal under Obama. Raniere is kind of low hanging fruit because he's a wierdo, his victims are attractive and famous women, and he apparently didn't have much of a krysha.
    What the -- Haaretz is blaming Muslims for this guy?
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  45. That Clinton had only won a ‘gimme’ Senate seat in New York on her ‘own’ always made her a problematic presidential candidate. While JFK and Obama managed to win the presidency from a Senate seat they were the exception not the rule. Being a Governor or Vice President was the more likely route to the presidency.

    The why of this is curious. Perhaps being Governor gives one more executive experience and less national ‘overexposure’. Same with Vice president. You have name recognition but not a lot of negatives that come with being responsible for events during your vice presidency.

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  46. OT: ‘Immigration from where?’

    Seems odd for him to be commenting…

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  47. Anonymous[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    In conspiracy that turned out to be true news, today there were follow-on arrests for the surgically branded Hollywood starlet slaves of NXIVM (pronounced "Nexium," which I'm pretty sure is a brand name prescription medication), after the cult leader was arrested earlier in Mexico. They have ties to Spirit Cooking performance artist Marina Abramovic and to a son of a former president of Mexico, and claim to have hosted thousands at their seminars. Like Scientology or the Gulen "cult," they were less of a religion and more of a pseudo-psychological self-actualization scam.
    But this wasn't so fat fetched. Hollywood women love cults and will often join them if their careers go sideways. Much easier to believe than somebody letting Hillary be Senator and the worst secretary of state in the entire history of the office to include Teapot Dome, but somehow not President.

    Can you provide a link to a reputable source?

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    When I have a discreet off-topic story without a source it's because it's big enough that it's all over; BBC Radio talked about this in today's hourly headline recap. I will try to dig up that one blogger who was really doing most of the heavy lifting for this story for years and must now feel quite vindicated.
    (I search "NXIVM," first suggestion is "NXIVM women pictures." Truly we deserve the fire. And yes there are actual pictures of the internal branding, and you probably don't want to see them.)
    I think this is the guy, this is from a year ago, there was sparse MSM attention quoted here but the cult angle wasn't really a story anyone else was following:
    https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/nxivm-powerful-cult-turns-rich-women-mind-controlled-slaves/
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  48. @slumber_j

    Who is “They”?
     
    Yeah, that was my immediate response when I read that piece. I think she may be even weirder than she thinks we think she is.

    The American people? White people?

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  49. Hillary! is narcissistic even for a politician. And stone paranoid to boot.

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    Don't be too hard on the old gal; she suffers from Kuru.
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  50. Didn’t Jackie Kennedy blame “them” shortly after her husband’s demise? I’m sure I read an Ed Driscoll piece about that. Here’s a similar one. It doesn’t mention Mrs. Kennedy but does focus more broadly on the tendency of the American left toward paranoia and “fear and loathing” of the right. “Vast right-wing conspiracy” indeed.

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  51. “The Deplorables always got a laugh, over living-room chats in the Hamptons, at dinner parties under the stars on Martha’s Vineyard, over passed hors d’oeuvres in Beverly Hills, and during sunset cocktails in Silicon Valley,” Chozick continues.

    Lots and lots of cocktails.

    … At a sold out fundraising dinner for gay Wall Streeters in the lavish Old Stock Exchange building in the heart of Wall Street.

    The Democratic Party’s core constituency: homosexual investment bankers.

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  52. I don’t get it. How the hell could a homicidal Mexican tranny freak like They interfere in a national election?

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  53. You missed the most interesting part. I just remember the main quote but there were actually 3 baskets.

    That was no slip of the tongue, since “Hillary always broke down Trump supporters into three baskets,” Chozick writes.

    “Basket #1: The Republicans who hated her and would vote Republican no matter who the nominee.
    Basket #2: Voters whose jobs and livelihoods had disappeared, or as Hillary said, ‘who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens in their lives and their futures.’
    Basket #3: The Deplorables. This basket includes ‘the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it.’

    I think I fit into all 3 baskets, at least in terms of no Democrat worrying about white people and straight white men in particular. The Democrats are the anti-white party and have been since Obama at least. All of those baskets follow from that point. With mass immigration and PC the third basket is a fait accompli. I don’t agree with the terms but as far as the attitudes in reaction to the white genocide program, that’s what they call us.

    If Bill had been able to run the campaign they may have pulled it off.

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    The Deplorables. This basket includes ‘the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it.’

    Not considered Deplorable are all the racist, sexist, homophobic, and Islamophobic blacks, Muslims, or Mexicans who can be counted on to vote Democrat. It goes without saying.
    , @CK
    Bill is one of they.
    Does anyone think, for the smallest minute, that he wanted to have to play second fiddle to that woman, in public, as the First "Gentleman"?
    When you have been the king of the hill, being the urinal on the downhill slope is not an attractive proposition.
    And concurrently do you think that Hillary wanted him anywhere near visible in her campaign?
    If she had won it would have been because of him, as it is she lost without his help.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Anonym, the democrats have exactly the same baskets if you think about it , especially Basket #1. The dem's Basket #2 should actually be filled with all the blacks that have labored on their political plantation and have never been allowed in the Masta's house. Basket #3 would be filled with all the fringe element dems who hate anyone who doesn't agree with them.
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  54. ‘They were never going to let me be president.’”

    Who is “They”?

    The Bastards, of course. The Ones Who Killed Kenny.

    Well, it’s as good as any of Hillary’s theories.

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  55. @J.Ross
    In conspiracy that turned out to be true news, today there were follow-on arrests for the surgically branded Hollywood starlet slaves of NXIVM (pronounced "Nexium," which I'm pretty sure is a brand name prescription medication), after the cult leader was arrested earlier in Mexico. They have ties to Spirit Cooking performance artist Marina Abramovic and to a son of a former president of Mexico, and claim to have hosted thousands at their seminars. Like Scientology or the Gulen "cult," they were less of a religion and more of a pseudo-psychological self-actualization scam.
    But this wasn't so fat fetched. Hollywood women love cults and will often join them if their careers go sideways. Much easier to believe than somebody letting Hillary be Senator and the worst secretary of state in the entire history of the office to include Teapot Dome, but somehow not President.

    Sara and Clare Bronfman, daughters of Edgar Bronfman Sr. (Seagram, former World Jewish Congress president) allegedly put $150 millions of their money in to this cult.

    The Heiresses and the Cult

    https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010/11/bronfman-201011

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    First Ishtar, now this. The Bronfman estate should have appointed to oversee it some nice Hannish boy who loves his mother (and ancestors).
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    That sounds remarkably like a 70s/80s Brit thing called Exegesis, run by one Robert D'Aubigny, born Robert Fuller. Specialised in turning middle class hippies into pushy telesales people and thrusting business types, perfect for the Thatcher years. People like Mike Oldfield and Tony Visconti joined.

    http://louisprice.co.uk/current-projects/a-very-british-cult/

    "You are the cause" was their strapline. I guess the breaking people down thing is common to a lot of cults. "The day is progressively spent confronting personal fears" - from literature about their seminars.

    A South African hippie/alternative girl I knew joined an unrelated commune in I think Austria in the late 70s, they sent her to Amsterdam where she was earning seven figures on the markets and handing it to the commune founder!

    , @Mr. Anon

    Sara and Clare Bronfman, daughters of Edgar Bronfman Sr. (Seagram, former World Jewish Congress president) allegedly put $150 millions of their money in to this cult.
     
    Oh - right - you're talking about NXIVM. At first I thought you were referring to the Hillary for President campaign.
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  56. Though Trump hasn’t been the President we hoped for, it’s nice of the Beast to cheer us up by reminding us who ISN’T President.

    utu had a realistic comment on that glorious night.

    ” Media are the most important. They need to be retaken. Also we may expect provocations here in the US and abroad. Sucking America in any military conflict will kill any chances for change. Keep in mind that G.W. Bush during election was against interventions and nation building.”

    I find that when I’m down, or troubled, and I need a helping hand, or nothing is going right, reading the Guardian’s coverage of that night always puts the smile back. Lately, sadly, they seem to have removed it and replaced it with coverage of the anti-Trump protests when he was elected.

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    Ah, found it. Fair play to the Guardian, they rarely actually delete stuff. 22,000 comments!

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/nov/08/us-election-2016-polls-trump-clinton-live
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  58. Kinda worrying that Steve already forgot about They (well-established hater of white women), whose case he covered in 2017-11-14.

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    Who says he forgot? Notice he asked "Who is they" not "Who are they"....

    Ya gotta follow the subtleties in this game, you know....
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  59. I think all the ruminating and analysis of the last presidential election is simply rationalization by:

    1. The MSM – it pains them to admit they got it wrong since they kept assuring everyone there was no way Trump could beat Hillary.

    2. The Cult of Hillary – these sorely disappointed folks cannot believe that destiny and history were stymied by the FBI, Russia, Voter ID laws, etc. They are also unable to admit that DJT won simply because he was not HRC. Truth be told, they are both loathsome beyond belief.

    3. The Political Class – Trump’s election is anathema to them because he was an outsider. A man who never held any public office should not be elected president. That’s unthinkable!!

    I do not vote because I do not wish to not give consent to the organized gang of criminals who populate the government at all levels. The last year has been particularly instructive in showing who really runs the country.

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    I do not vote because I do not wish to not give consent to the organized gang of criminals who populate the government at all levels.
     
    May I steal that for a T-shirt slogan?
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  60. she believed it was in careful pursuit of a dream for generations of Americans: the election of the country’s first woman president.”

    Hillary is significantly less intellectually serious than the silliest Daily Stormer-esque Nazi troll on the internet – all whom would probably vote for any sex/race/religion if that individual was sure to pursue the right policies.

    Bill and Hillary, still stuck in the 1990s, feared the Bush surname most of all.”

    Yuck.

    “You know, I am getting pretty tired of hearing about how nobody likes me,” she said.

    “‘Oh, what’s the point? They’re never going to like me,’ Hillary told this friend.”

    They’d like you, if you did something good for them. Or at least if you stopped stomping on their face while crying about how you’re the victim.

    Heck, half of the people on this site would name/rename their daughters ‘Hillary Rodham” if you’d campaign for the following 3 policies:

    1. Immigration moratorium, or close enough.

    2. Re-balance trade.

    3. Bring the troops home, even very gradually.

    ‘I knew it. I knew this would happen to me….’ Hillary said, now within a couple of inches of his face. ‘They were never going to let me be president.’”

    Gross.

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    Didn't Obama tell her, "you are likeable enough, Hillary".
    , @Ivy
    The election was cruel to those merchants who stocked up on Hillary merchandise, none moreso than the baby name items. Hillary junk joins the remainder bin and sells even less than Osama or Khadaffi items. Fewer little girls named Hillary, or even the odd Rodham, with new parents wanting merch and then only among the bitter enders. Now that is a harsh world, and she missed her cut, too.
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  61. @Silva
    Kinda worrying that Steve already forgot about They (well-established hater of white women), whose case he covered in 2017-11-14.

    Who says he forgot? Notice he asked “Who is they” not “Who are they”….

    Ya gotta follow the subtleties in this game, you know….

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    That was the joke I intended - but did I miss the article having a picture of They, or was it edited in after publication?
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  62. “Who is “They”?”

    Is she it? – “He now was his greatetst enemy“… (Austrian songsmith Wolfgang Ambros about an – at times (=once) – glamorous loser.

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  63. It’s still fun to troll Hillary fans by pointing out that they were in favor of starting World War III over Syria.

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  64. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:

    Hillary came pretty close to pulling it off.

    She’s old and she is ugly. Laying off the pants suits might have helped.

    But what would have really helped would have been a judicious bit of plastic surgery. She should have found out what surgeon Debbie Harry went to and went to him: whoever he is, he’s good.

    She looks about as good as a 72 year old is going to:

    I’d also suspect Stevie Nicks has had some pretty good work recently inasmuch as she wasn’t all that hot to begin with and now looks pretty good at 68. By contrast, Chrissie Hynde is 66 and looks it, probably because she has been a vegan for five decades and the collagens from her face are gone.

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    By contrast, Chrissie Hynde is 66 and looks it, probably because she has been a vegan for five decades and the collagens from her face are gone.
     
    Why do vegans lose collagen?
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  65. They= her stupid campaign manager and his team. She was surrounded by cronies and sycophants, not pros.
    Also, Hillary has so many skeletons in her closet, it’s unbelievable the DNC let her run. Furthermore, neither the spirit-cooking and witchy pedo connections didn’t help, nor her poor health. Why vote for an obnoxious political has-been old hag who clearly belonged more in a retirement home than the White House?

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    I thought the spirit cooking thing was hilarious, but then I'm not very religious. However I understand that a lot of devout Christians (including many blacks and Hispanics) were genuinely horrified by it and refused to vote for her because of it. It may have made the decisive difference.

    There's zero mention of any of this on Wikipedia of course.
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  66. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:

    New York Times reporter Amy Chozick, who follows Clinton closely, told ABC News that she was surprised by the extent of Clinton’s drinking when she began covering her.

    “She likes to drink,” Chozick said. “We were on the campaign trail in 2008 and the press thought she was just taking shots to pander to voters in Pennsylvania. Um, no.”

    http://freebeacon.com/issues/hillary-drinks/

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    This makes me think this book may be worth reading. Amy Chozick noticed a few interesting things about HRC and wrote about them.
    , @Murray
    Hillary's conversation with Robby Mook sounds like the kind of thing I used to hear routinely in my long-ago bartending days:

    Mook, with grave trepidation: "Madame Secretary [or Your Satanic Majesty, or whatever they called her], I have bad news..."

    Hillary, slurring: "I knew it. I knew thish would happen to me….’

    Mook, too terrified to speak, fights the urge to recoil as Hillary leans right into his face, reeking of vodka.

    Hillary: "They were never going to let me be preshident."

    The "within a couple of inches of his face" is a dead giveaway for someone who's three sheets to the wind, as Hillary reportedly was on election night.

    Hillary is fascinating if only for the demonstration of the power of leftist personality cults. In reality, she's a boring nonentity, a woman who's botched every single important (and unmerited) role she's been appointed to, and who appears never to have had a single original thought in her life. Yet for tens of millions of people worldwide, she's "the most qualified person ever to seek the presidency", and a heroic martyr to progress, and they just can't get enough of her interminable maunderings on the ever-growing list of "theys" who died her of her rightful crown.

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  67. @Dr. X
    Trump has many, many faults. I often think that he is nothing more than a bullshit artist who is in waaaay over his head.

    That being said, every time I see the arrogant, narcissistic, fat-assed, drunken Hillary stumbling around and breaking bones and whining and bitching and moaning and fantasizing about how she really should be president but got shafted by all the white men who browbeat women and Negroes into voting against her, I thank God Almighty for delivering Donald Trump to save the Republic from her... if only temporarily.

    But the people who voted for Hillary are coming back with a vengeance in 2020 and beyond, and I fear that it is asking too much to pin our entire future on Trump's success or failure. Trump is a very, very flawed savior... sooner or later this is going to get settled in the streets.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMEiL2NkJvE

    https://www.ajc.com/news/national/hillary-clinton-breaks-wrist-fall-bathtub-indian-palace/uzolVoZXTgq3dPtioXN6KP/

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/13/hillary-clinton-blames-pressure-from-men-for-why-white-women-voted-for-trump.html

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/bitter-hillary-fantasizes-leaving-earth-president-another-planet/

    What was the 9/11 memorial collapse all about?

    Impressive how the media thought they weren’t tough enough on Trump, or how the Russia thing has metamorphisised.

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  68. @Bleuteaux
    Completely OT:

    I saw the movie "300" this week for the first time, based on the repeated references to the movie here in the comments section. I cannot believe this movie somehow got made. Wow. Is this the most subversive Hollywood movie every made? Simply incredible.

    Subversive of what? Because “Iranians are monsters” is a (((pretty standard))) line.

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    The most import aspect of The Agenda™ is the visual aspect. The Persian army is depicted as mostly non-white. The good guys are white. That is subversive in the current year.
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  69. @slumber_j

    Who is “They”?
     
    Yeah, that was my immediate response when I read that piece. I think she may be even weirder than she thinks we think she is.

    “I think she may be even weirder than she thinks we think she is.”

    Is that possible?

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    Hillary frequently lapsed into recursive thinking and ended up chasing thoughts up her own rectum. Imagine the poor staffer tagged with helping her recover!
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  70. “Who is “They”?”

    Only they know who they are. Not to be confused with “Them”.

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    Someone please edit Jimbo's Stash of Postmodern Knollij. There is nothing of relevance.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Them
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  71. @Clifford Brown
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/04/us/politics/hillary-clinton-fundraising.html

    “I stand between you and the apocalypse,” a confident Mrs. Clinton declared to laughs, exhibiting a flash of self-awareness and humor to a crowd that included Calvin Klein and Harvey Weinstein and for whom the prospect of a Donald J. Trump presidency is dire.
     
    Poor Harvey had no idea what was coming.

    As noted here previously, Hillary Clinton chose to spend August and the first week of September of 2016 in the Hamptons with her neighbor Harvey Weinstein and big donors, such as Lynn De Rothschild, as opposed to stumping through the blue collar districts of Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

    I don’t know why Weinstein would be worried then – because generally, Trump’s been excellent to Jews, and this wasn’t hard to foresee. Has he targeted Hollywood, and was this foreseeable?

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    I'm convinced Harvey would still be doing his thing if Hillary was elected. The Left had to pretend that it cared about Hollywood depravity with Trump in office. Nevermind the day before Malia Obama was interning for Wienstein and Left is constantly milking the Hollywood cash cow for campaign contributions.
    , @Castlereagh
    I'm convinced Harvey would still be doing his thing if Hillary was elected. The Left had to pretend that it cared about Hollywood depravity with Trump in office. Nevermind the day before Malia Obama was interning for Wienstein and Left is constantly milking the Hollywood cash cow for campaign contributions.
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  72. OT: Elmwood Café closed, as 2015 racism charge gets new life with Starbucks arrest

    http://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/04/20/elmwood-cafe-closed-as-2015-racism-charge-gets-new-life-with-starbucks-arrest

    And

    After closure, Elmwood Café owner says worker co-op, nonprofit could take over

    http://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/04/20/after-closure-elmwood-cafe-owner-says-worker-co-op-nonprofit-could-take-over

    This is my neighborhood and this sudden closure came out of left field and is a big shock around here. And on 4/20 no less. If you look at the comments you’ll see that some of Berkeley’s fine liberals are pretty pissed off at the loss of a busy neighborhood spot and feel this is a case of racial grievance politics going too far.

    BTW this is a few blocks up the hill from where Pablo “They” Gomez committed murder.

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    >Pablo They Gomez
    OF COURSE! Staring us in the face all along! How could we forget who They is?
    , @El Dato
    After closure, Elmwood Café owner says worker co-op, nonprofit could take over

    [Elmwood owner Michael Pearce] said those efforts had “included hosting a community forum, development of an implicit bias employee training curriculum, and the hiring of an outside expert to train our employees.”

     

    The commissars will do an audit later...

    in the midst of the national conversation about the arrest of two black men in a Philadelphia Starbucks.

     

    Those national conversations are fantastic.

    Opinion: Whatever the reason it closed, the Elmwood Café missed a real opportunity to be a force for change in Berkeley

    W. Kamau Bell, who lives in Berkeley, is a sociopolitical comedian and the host and executive producer of the Emmy Award winning docu-series "United Shades of America with W. Kamau Bell," premiering Sunday April 29, 10:15 p.m. on CNN.

    So, I categorically reject the assertion that is in today’s Berkeleyside article, and in numerous media outlets that covered the closing of the Elmwood Café, that the racism that my wife, my baby daughter, and I experienced at the Elmwood Café is just something that I am “claiming” occurred. The racism has been admitted to, proven, discussed, and finally — and most troublingly — ignored by the Elmwood Café. For more than three years

    So I shed no tears — nor do I hold a celebration — at the closing of the Elmwood Café. I’m more bummed about Jeremy’s and the frozen yogurt shop. Jeremy’s had some good clothing deals. And my kids love frozen yogurt. If anything, I hope Mrs. Dalloway’s bookstore, which shares a wall with the old Elmwood Café, can expand into it. Because while I don’t know if the world needs another coffee shop, I’m always happy to see big independent bookstores.
     
    Unless they carry racist books, I imagine.

    At community forum in Berkeley, W. Kamau Bell and Elmwood Café launch ‘implicit bias’ training initiative

    The comedian, who is African-American, made public on his blog how he was asked to leave the café on College Avenue while he was talking to his wife and her friends, who are all white, at an outdoor table.

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    Novella Coleman said the law does a poor job of dealing with racism. “One of huge failures of the law is that it doesn’t recognize implicit bias,” she said. “The law requires that you prove [an act of racism] is intentional. The law doesn’t recognize that biases are harbored without people knowing about them. People see themselves as progressive but they still buy into those racial biases and situations can trigger them.” She said that if employee accused of racism can provide a race-neutral explanation for their act, “then the law is good with that.”
     
    Badthink should carry fines or prison time.

    During the evening’s discussion about implicit bias Bell spoke about how he himself had had “homophobia in him” before he moved to the Bay Area but that it was “worked out of him.”

    ---

    At the forum, an audience member asked Bell, via a written question, what made him so sure the Jan. 26 incident was a racially motivated act, and not one directed at the homeless population that is to be found around the café. Bell responded: “So what if I was homeless? Even if I’m homeless I’m a black homeless person — you can’t take that part away from me.”
     
    Just say that you are waiting for the Jewish Businessman.
    , @Marty
    Is Dream Fluff donuts still going strong?
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  73. @Anonymous

    New York Times reporter Amy Chozick, who follows Clinton closely, told ABC News that she was surprised by the extent of Clinton’s drinking when she began covering her.

    "She likes to drink," Chozick said. "We were on the campaign trail in 2008 and the press thought she was just taking shots to pander to voters in Pennsylvania. Um, no."
     

    http://freebeacon.com/issues/hillary-drinks/

    This makes me think this book may be worth reading. Amy Chozick noticed a few interesting things about HRC and wrote about them.

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  74. @wren
    Check this guy's sex cult out, if you haven't already (the pics alone are worth the click):

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-inside-the-muslim-sex-cult-whose-leader-is-embraced-by-israeli-figures-1.5961420

    Woah. Where do I sign up?

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  75. @Mishra
    Who says he forgot? Notice he asked "Who is they" not "Who are they"....

    Ya gotta follow the subtleties in this game, you know....

    That was the joke I intended – but did I miss the article having a picture of They, or was it edited in after publication?

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  76. I’d like to see hideous Hillary
    Her frenzied face framed by a pillory;
    Each deplorable hick
    Given license to kick
    Her buttocks, so bloated and billowy.

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    I’d like to see hideous Hillary
    Her frenzied face framed by a pillory;
    Each deplorable hick
    Given license to kick
    Her buttocks, so bloated and billowy.
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  77. They is very busy keeping Hillary out of the oval office and, apparently, limiting black genius.

    I, personally, am too dumb to quite understand what WIRED is saying in this article.

    https://www.wired.com/story/beyonce-kendrick-kanye-black-genius/

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    Let me feed it into John Derbyshire’s Universal Black Journalism Translator for you.
    Buzz. Whirrr. Beep.
    Translation: Black Black Blackety Black Black Black.
    , @Ripple Earthdevil
    Au contraire, black genius is Duke Ellington, John Coltrane, Wayne Shorter, and the impossibly brilliant and esoteric saxophonist/composer Anthony Braxton.
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  78. @wren
    Check this guy's sex cult out, if you haven't already (the pics alone are worth the click):

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-inside-the-muslim-sex-cult-whose-leader-is-embraced-by-israeli-figures-1.5961420

    This is one of many stories that popped up at 4chan at first as rumor (or in this case, the obsession of a particular blogger who was accused of being in love with Raniere’s stable), then wouldn’t go away, and finally resulted in real prosecutions. There will be more like this. There have already been many more pedophile arrests than was normal under Obama. Raniere is kind of low hanging fruit because he’s a wierdo, his victims are attractive and famous women, and he apparently didn’t have much of a krysha.
    What the — Haaretz is blaming Muslims for this guy?

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  79. @utu
    Sara and Clare Bronfman, daughters of Edgar Bronfman Sr. (Seagram, former World Jewish Congress president) allegedly put $150 millions of their money in to this cult.

    The Heiresses and the Cult
    https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010/11/bronfman-201011

    First Ishtar, now this. The Bronfman estate should have appointed to oversee it some nice Hannish boy who loves his mother (and ancestors).

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  80. “After the election, Bill would spread a more absurd Times conspiracy: The publisher had struck a deal with Trump that we’d destroy Hillary on her emails to help him get elected, if he kept driving traffic and boosting the company’s stock price.”

    From Publisher to (Jewish) Punisher in a single deal.

    Happy_Merchant.jpg

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  81. @Anonymous
    Can you provide a link to a reputable source?

    When I have a discreet off-topic story without a source it’s because it’s big enough that it’s all over; BBC Radio talked about this in today’s hourly headline recap. I will try to dig up that one blogger who was really doing most of the heavy lifting for this story for years and must now feel quite vindicated.
    (I search “NXIVM,” first suggestion is “NXIVM women pictures.” Truly we deserve the fire. And yes there are actual pictures of the internal branding, and you probably don’t want to see them.)
    I think this is the guy, this is from a year ago, there was sparse MSM attention quoted here but the cult angle wasn’t really a story anyone else was following:

    https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/nxivm-powerful-cult-turns-rich-women-mind-controlled-slaves/

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  82. Rendered through these three artists, the sweat and gristle of black genius—which is to say, the bone-tough work of black genius—was nearly impossible to escape, online and off. (…) Black artistic genius is a statement or body of work that exists in the absolute; it is singular brilliance that, even if consumed by the masses, was nurtured in and speaks to the pulse of black life. (…) Black genius work is transformative and transcendent, illuminating both the interior self and the behaviors of the exterior world.

    Art Student Let Out His Cage Alert. Only reading Hegel can be worse.

    Meanwhile, actual Black Scientist in Quanta Mag: A Revealer of Secrets in the Data of Life and the Universe

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    This sounds almost exactly like Nazi propaganda about the Herrenvolk.
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  83. @Ripple Earthdevil
    OT: Elmwood Café closed, as 2015 racism charge gets new life with Starbucks arrest

    http://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/04/20/elmwood-cafe-closed-as-2015-racism-charge-gets-new-life-with-starbucks-arrest

    And

    After closure, Elmwood Café owner says worker co-op, nonprofit could take over

    http://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/04/20/after-closure-elmwood-cafe-owner-says-worker-co-op-nonprofit-could-take-over

    This is my neighborhood and this sudden closure came out of left field and is a big shock around here. And on 4/20 no less. If you look at the comments you'll see that some of Berkeley's fine liberals are pretty pissed off at the loss of a busy neighborhood spot and feel this is a case of racial grievance politics going too far.

    BTW this is a few blocks up the hill from where Pablo "They" Gomez committed murder.

    >Pablo They Gomez
    OF COURSE! Staring us in the face all along! How could we forget who They is?

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  84. @YetAnotherAnon
    Though Trump hasn't been the President we hoped for, it's nice of the Beast to cheer us up by reminding us who ISN'T President.

    utu had a realistic comment on that glorious night.

    " Media are the most important. They need to be retaken. Also we may expect provocations here in the US and abroad. Sucking America in any military conflict will kill any chances for change. Keep in mind that G.W. Bush during election was against interventions and nation building."
     
    I find that when I'm down, or troubled, and I need a helping hand, or nothing is going right, reading the Guardian's coverage of that night always puts the smile back. Lately, sadly, they seem to have removed it and replaced it with coverage of the anti-Trump protests when he was elected.

    Ah, found it. Fair play to the Guardian, they rarely actually delete stuff. 22,000 comments!

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/nov/08/us-election-2016-polls-trump-clinton-live

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  85. @Sunbeam
    "After the election, Bill would spread a more absurd Times conspiracy: The publisher had struck a deal with Trump that we’d destroy Hillary on her emails to help him get elected,"

    Does the NY Times really have that kind of influence? What fraction of voters even read this?

    Particularly in the states that were the battlegrounds.

    Really kind of curious as to where things go. If you buy a paper like Bezos did the Post, I'm really not sure he is getting much bang for his buck, other than the fact that people in the Beltway probably know what they wrote about any given day.

    But it's not like controlling the Times or Post is going to light a fire under people's butts in Peoria to impeach Trump - or vote for Hillary.

    Given the full court press the national media outlets have been putting on Trump, if they don't produce a major scalp in either the midterms or 2020 (and probably both), I think a lot of well heeled types are going to ask themselves whether these media outlets are worth it at all.

    And despite the current hoopla, are there really definable benefits for companies to advertise on Google or use Facebook data? You'd think, but my understanding is that results seem to have been very sketchy so far.

    The NYTs is a totem to the members of that group , it’s part of their civic religion . The point isn’t to believe it but to revere it .

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  86. @slumber_j

    Who is “They”?
     
    Yeah, that was my immediate response when I read that piece. I think she may be even weirder than she thinks we think she is.

    There is no Inner Party.

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  87. @Ripple Earthdevil
    OT: Elmwood Café closed, as 2015 racism charge gets new life with Starbucks arrest

    http://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/04/20/elmwood-cafe-closed-as-2015-racism-charge-gets-new-life-with-starbucks-arrest

    And

    After closure, Elmwood Café owner says worker co-op, nonprofit could take over

    http://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/04/20/after-closure-elmwood-cafe-owner-says-worker-co-op-nonprofit-could-take-over

    This is my neighborhood and this sudden closure came out of left field and is a big shock around here. And on 4/20 no less. If you look at the comments you'll see that some of Berkeley's fine liberals are pretty pissed off at the loss of a busy neighborhood spot and feel this is a case of racial grievance politics going too far.

    BTW this is a few blocks up the hill from where Pablo "They" Gomez committed murder.

    After closure, Elmwood Café owner says worker co-op, nonprofit could take over

    [Elmwood owner Michael Pearce] said those efforts had “included hosting a community forum, development of an implicit bias employee training curriculum, and the hiring of an outside expert to train our employees.”

    The commissars will do an audit later…

    in the midst of the national conversation about the arrest of two black men in a Philadelphia Starbucks.

    Those national conversations are fantastic.

    Opinion: Whatever the reason it closed, the Elmwood Café missed a real opportunity to be a force for change in Berkeley

    W. Kamau Bell, who lives in Berkeley, is a sociopolitical comedian and the host and executive producer of the Emmy Award winning docu-series “United Shades of America with W. Kamau Bell,” premiering Sunday April 29, 10:15 p.m. on CNN.

    So, I categorically reject the assertion that is in today’s Berkeleyside article, and in numerous media outlets that covered the closing of the Elmwood Café, that the racism that my wife, my baby daughter, and I experienced at the Elmwood Café is just something that I am “claiming” occurred. The racism has been admitted to, proven, discussed, and finally — and most troublingly — ignored by the Elmwood Café. For more than three years

    So I shed no tears — nor do I hold a celebration — at the closing of the Elmwood Café. I’m more bummed about Jeremy’s and the frozen yogurt shop. Jeremy’s had some good clothing deals. And my kids love frozen yogurt. If anything, I hope Mrs. Dalloway’s bookstore, which shares a wall with the old Elmwood Café, can expand into it. Because while I don’t know if the world needs another coffee shop, I’m always happy to see big independent bookstores.

    Unless they carry racist books, I imagine.

    At community forum in Berkeley, W. Kamau Bell and Elmwood Café launch ‘implicit bias’ training initiative

    The comedian, who is African-American, made public on his blog how he was asked to leave the café on College Avenue while he was talking to his wife and her friends, who are all white, at an outdoor table.

    Novella Coleman said the law does a poor job of dealing with racism. “One of huge failures of the law is that it doesn’t recognize implicit bias,” she said. “The law requires that you prove [an act of racism] is intentional. The law doesn’t recognize that biases are harbored without people knowing about them. People see themselves as progressive but they still buy into those racial biases and situations can trigger them.” She said that if employee accused of racism can provide a race-neutral explanation for their act, “then the law is good with that.”

    Badthink should carry fines or prison time.

    During the evening’s discussion about implicit bias Bell spoke about how he himself had had “homophobia in him” before he moved to the Bay Area but that it was “worked out of him.”

    At the forum, an audience member asked Bell, via a written question, what made him so sure the Jan. 26 incident was a racially motivated act, and not one directed at the homeless population that is to be found around the café. Bell responded: “So what if I was homeless? Even if I’m homeless I’m a black homeless person — you can’t take that part away from me.”

    Just say that you are waiting for the Jewish Businessman.

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    Dear old Berkeley. Sounds like it hasn't changed a bit from the 80's... or maybe the 50's...

    the homeless were a gigantic problem for businesses always. They want to use the bathroom, they want to sit in the restaurant/cafe and buy nothing. They're filthy, crazy, high, fetid, and they have loads of crap with them. Plus, they have more rights than normal people who want to either buy food or sell it in hygienic peace. No amount of money could induce me to open a business in a location where law and order are not maintained, and Berkeley is the pinnacle of that.
    , @Anonymous
    Around the time when W. Kamau Bell had his "incident", I had a low-status job that one day involved me interacting with him in his capacity as some sort of minor public figure. I had no idea who he was, apart from thinking that I might have heard of him before (and it turns out that I had, since I had several times watched a clip of a guest on one of his shows, a clip that I found funny). In the few minutes I dealt with him, he struck me as an insufferable prick, and I was glad to hand him off to other employees, although I felt for them, since it seemed he immediately started to be a prick to them too. I say this as a response to his overall demeanor throughout the "working" interactions that he had with me and others.

    As for the given incident, my guess is that he was offended that someone failed to recognize him as an "important" person.
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  88. Anon[274] • Disclaimer says:

    Very interesting to compare Hillary’s private remark with some of Trump’s (in Comey’s summer camp diary):

    When talking about the free media (as Comey puts it, and we can assume he means the internet, ) Trump corrects or contradicts him by calling it the ‘earned media’. For Trump, in that moment, people’s interest in him is something he earns, and is not given to him for being him (mostly)- at least in his own eccentric head. It shows some minimal level of respect that other people- normal, voting, blogging people- have their own agency which he must “win” over; no matter how great he finds himself (and it’s safe to say he is not lacking a generous self-conception.)

    Contrast this with Hillary. Hillary imagines there is some shadowy, amorphous ‘they’, which prevents her desires and blunts her ambitions out of spite, and for no other reason. She is a passive observer waiting for this ‘they’ to finally relent and let her ‘have’ what she deserves (to which she is entitled). When she doesn’t get it, it’s open season for self-pity because this cabal has worked all her life to prevent her from having the good things like ice cream and the presidency. This cabal, being as devious as it is, is a constantly shifting conspiracy of enemies- mostly deplorables and frogs- and abstractions which never quite take human form. Humans, for Hillary, are just as passive dancing partners as she is- everyone slugs around on the dance floor until the ‘theys’ of the world recognize their inherent greatness- but mostly, Hillary’s.

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    Interesting observation.

    Another thing I still find strange is that on what was supposed to be the biggest night of her life (and of all Feminism), a night for which all candidates and all their staff, as far as I can ever remember, have always stayed awake, Hillary was apparently already in bed--not just napping on the couch, but deeply abed such that her minions feared to wake her.

    Is her physical infirmity so profound? Or is it her contempt for those who work for her? Or both?
    , @Ace9
    Earned media is a biz term for media one doesnt pay for
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  89. @Anon
    I have always thought Hillary Clinton is a masochist. She shares that trait with Nixon. Nixon wrote a book about his Six Crises, but they were all entirely of his own making, and he could have stayed out of trouble if he wanted it.

    Clinton has the exact same trait. She has gotten into an incredible amount of messes entirely of her own making, and and she has never been able to stay out of trouble for any particular length of time.

    For a masochist, being in trouble is a psychological necessity. They seek it deliberately. I'm glad she didn't become president, because she's probably get us nuked.

    I think it started with her father, who browbeat her thoroughly when she was young, and she soon began to associate parental love--and then love in general--with being pushed around. That's why she started out as a Goldwater girl, which is lunacy if you're a feminist. Then in the late 60s, she went to the other extreme, when the hippies were beginning to wear out their welcome. If you wanted to become unpopular with the majority at that particular time, being a hardcore left-wing hippie was the way to do it. That's why Nixon got elected. The majority were scared by all the crazy left-wingers.

    Then she married a guy whom she had to know was a womanizer. Bill Clinton chased every woman in sight, and she has stuck by him despite his infidelities, which is classic masochism. She then invested in cattle futures, which is insanely risky and could have destroyed the Clintons' finances entirely, and she ended up having to be rescued by people who wanted to do the Clintons a favor.

    She ran against Obama, and got beaten like a donkey by him, and what did she do? She went to work for him. Classic masochism. She wanted more suffering. She knew perfectly well when it came to a lightweight like Obama, she would take the blame for his mistakes. She failed to show due diligence in a country that was collapsing and undergoing utter chaos, namely Libya, and got into trouble for that, even though she could have avoided it by using a little common sense. Of course you have to protect your Embassy when a country is falling apart. Any idiot knows that.

    Then she blithely put all her classified emails on an unprotected server. Any rational person could guess she would be spied on. She stuffed her pockets via the Clinton Foundation with as much loot as she could, thoroughly disgracing herself in the eyes of anyone concerned with financial malfeasance. This is why Bernie Sanders made such inroads among Democrats. Any politician with any common sense knows you get rich after you're out of office, not before. Doing so beforehand makes you look like a greedy hog on the take and ruins your reputation and your chance to get elected.

    Even now, she's doing the rounds complaining and carrying on in such a sour old bag manner that she has spoiled her reputation even among Democrats, and they're so sick of her they will never pick her to run in 2020. Clinton is complaining longer and more relentlessly than any other loser in any other presidential election that we've ever had. This is Clinton deliberately choosing to sabotage herself again.

    All the above are not examples of stupidity. Hillary Clinton is not stupid. She's doing things like this deliberately to make trouble for herself because she gets a psychological kick out of being in trouble.

    She failed to show due diligence in a country that was collapsing and undergoing utter chaos, namely Libya

    It wouldn’t have collapsed without a good solid push from the West though. A bit like Syria (ongoing).

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  90. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Who is “They”?"

    Only they know who they are. Not to be confused with "Them".

    Someone please edit Jimbo’s Stash of Postmodern Knollij. There is nothing of relevance.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Them

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    Relevance is fleeting, direct statements are timeless.

    "And that's all I have to say about that"--F. Gump
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  91. @MEH 0910
    ‘They Were Never Going to Let Me Be President’
    By AMY CHOZICK
    APRIL 20, 2018

    I figured that if anyone knew whom Mrs. Clinton was referring to with that insidious “they” that, like some invisible army of adversaries (real and imagined), wielded its collective power and caused her to lose the most winnable presidential election in modern history, it was me.

    They were the vast-right wing conspiracy. They were the patriarchy that could never let an ambitious former first lady finally shatter “that highest, hardest glass ceiling.” They were the people of Wisconsin and James Comey. They were white suburban women who would rather vote for a man who bragged about sexual assault than a woman who seemed an affront to who they were.

    And yes, they were political reporters (“big egos and no brains,” she called us) hounding her about her emails and transfixed by the spectacle of the first reality TV show candidate.

    It’s dizzying to realize that without even knowing it, you’ve ended up on the wrong side of history. Months after the election, every time I heard the words “Russia” and “collude,” this realization swirled in my head, enveloping everything.
    ......

    The Bernie Bros and Mr. Trump’s Twitter trolls had called me a donkey-faced whore and a Hillary shill, but nothing hurt worse than my own colleagues calling me a de facto instrument of Russian intelligence. The worst part was, they were right.
     

    oh my goodness, Hillary is right! These people are big ego, no brains!

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  92. @utu
    Sara and Clare Bronfman, daughters of Edgar Bronfman Sr. (Seagram, former World Jewish Congress president) allegedly put $150 millions of their money in to this cult.

    The Heiresses and the Cult
    https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010/11/bronfman-201011

    That sounds remarkably like a 70s/80s Brit thing called Exegesis, run by one Robert D’Aubigny, born Robert Fuller. Specialised in turning middle class hippies into pushy telesales people and thrusting business types, perfect for the Thatcher years. People like Mike Oldfield and Tony Visconti joined.

    http://louisprice.co.uk/current-projects/a-very-british-cult/

    “You are the cause” was their strapline. I guess the breaking people down thing is common to a lot of cults. “The day is progressively spent confronting personal fears” – from literature about their seminars.

    A South African hippie/alternative girl I knew joined an unrelated commune in I think Austria in the late 70s, they sent her to Amsterdam where she was earning seven figures on the markets and handing it to the commune founder!

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  93. OT: Natalie Portman targeted for termination:

    Natalie Portman ‘unworthy of any honor’ says Israeli politician

    An Israeli government minister has called for actress Natalie Portman to be stripped of her Israeli citizenship, after she refused to attend the Genesis Award ceremony, citing “extremely distressing” recent events.

    “From the outset, the idea of granting the Genesis Prize to Natalie Portman was complete craziness,” Member of Knesset (MK) Oren Hazan said, as cited by Arutz Sheva. “She’s an actress, but she is unworthy of any honor in the State of Israel.”

    He called Portman a Jewish Israeli who “cynically uses her birthplace to advance her career” while expressing pride in the fact that she never served in the Israeli military.

    “I call on Interior Minister Aryeh Deri (Shas) to rescind Portman’s Israeli citizenship. She left Israel at age four, and has no real connection to the state,” added Hazan, a member of the ruling Likud party.

    Revealing that he says “state” not “nation”. But maybe these things are the same in Hebrew?

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    89 El Dato > he says “state” not “nation”. But maybe these things are the same in Hebrew?

    yes.

    There is the "State of Israel" ("medinat yisrael") which is different than "the ethnics people of Israel" ("ahm yisrael") which existed well before the creation of the current Sovereign country.

    I don't think it's strange. Poland didn't exist for any number of years, yet the Polish ethnic people didn't imagine that they had ceased to exist.

    I happen to like Arafat's advice that Israel change its regime-indicator to "Hebrew Republic", because it's a quite accurate description of the culture here. You can be generic-non-Jewish or even Muslim, and still be rather high up in the, uh, local Deep State - if you can tell off-color jokes to the cops and the troops in Hebrew

    You Americans will find out after you go into exile for the first time
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  94. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    I have always thought Hillary Clinton is a masochist. She shares that trait with Nixon. Nixon wrote a book about his Six Crises, but they were all entirely of his own making, and he could have stayed out of trouble if he wanted it.

    Clinton has the exact same trait. She has gotten into an incredible amount of messes entirely of her own making, and and she has never been able to stay out of trouble for any particular length of time.

    For a masochist, being in trouble is a psychological necessity. They seek it deliberately. I'm glad she didn't become president, because she's probably get us nuked.

    I think it started with her father, who browbeat her thoroughly when she was young, and she soon began to associate parental love--and then love in general--with being pushed around. That's why she started out as a Goldwater girl, which is lunacy if you're a feminist. Then in the late 60s, she went to the other extreme, when the hippies were beginning to wear out their welcome. If you wanted to become unpopular with the majority at that particular time, being a hardcore left-wing hippie was the way to do it. That's why Nixon got elected. The majority were scared by all the crazy left-wingers.

    Then she married a guy whom she had to know was a womanizer. Bill Clinton chased every woman in sight, and she has stuck by him despite his infidelities, which is classic masochism. She then invested in cattle futures, which is insanely risky and could have destroyed the Clintons' finances entirely, and she ended up having to be rescued by people who wanted to do the Clintons a favor.

    She ran against Obama, and got beaten like a donkey by him, and what did she do? She went to work for him. Classic masochism. She wanted more suffering. She knew perfectly well when it came to a lightweight like Obama, she would take the blame for his mistakes. She failed to show due diligence in a country that was collapsing and undergoing utter chaos, namely Libya, and got into trouble for that, even though she could have avoided it by using a little common sense. Of course you have to protect your Embassy when a country is falling apart. Any idiot knows that.

    Then she blithely put all her classified emails on an unprotected server. Any rational person could guess she would be spied on. She stuffed her pockets via the Clinton Foundation with as much loot as she could, thoroughly disgracing herself in the eyes of anyone concerned with financial malfeasance. This is why Bernie Sanders made such inroads among Democrats. Any politician with any common sense knows you get rich after you're out of office, not before. Doing so beforehand makes you look like a greedy hog on the take and ruins your reputation and your chance to get elected.

    Even now, she's doing the rounds complaining and carrying on in such a sour old bag manner that she has spoiled her reputation even among Democrats, and they're so sick of her they will never pick her to run in 2020. Clinton is complaining longer and more relentlessly than any other loser in any other presidential election that we've ever had. This is Clinton deliberately choosing to sabotage herself again.

    All the above are not examples of stupidity. Hillary Clinton is not stupid. She's doing things like this deliberately to make trouble for herself because she gets a psychological kick out of being in trouble.

    I believe you may be right. Well considered and said.

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  95. @Flip
    Every article in the NYT was pro-Clinton and anti-Trump in the run up to the election. They and the rest of the mainstream media were absolutely in the tank for her.

    They and the rest of the mainstream media were absolutely in the tank for her.

    Fox News is also “mainstream” and has far more political influence than the NYT. The New York Times reaches maybe 3M people, the vast majority of whom pick the NYT precisely becauses it reinforces the political views they already hold. Even if the NYT had convinced every one of its Republican readers to vote for Clinton instead of Trump it would make very little difference since almost all those Republican readers live in blue states.

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    "Fox News is also “mainstream” and has far more political influence than the NYT. The New York Times reaches maybe 3M people, the vast majority of whom pick the NYT precisely becauses it reinforces the political views they already hold."

    You don't NOTICE that some people who read the NYT may not be politically minded, or may actually be Republicans who read other parts of the paper for information, sports, etc. And perhaps you also didn't NOTICE that a great deal of those views were watch Fox News are also having their positions hardened as well. It's called confirmation bias.

    And our beloved host neglected to NOTICE--he has been doing that lately--that the use of "cuck" and "race realist" by the Alt Right on white people have a similar impact to that of Shitlery sneering at "deplorables".

    Furthermore, why no direct insight on the investigation of Trump by Mr. Sailer in the viewing audience? That's easy. Mr. Sailer does not want any potential blowback should the dozens of allegations, some of which have substantial and credible evidence behind them, stain his reputation. Cagey on his part to not even NOTICE it.
    , @gcochran
    The New York Times is the major influence on an enormous number of other media outlets.
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  96. @MEH 0910
    ‘They Were Never Going to Let Me Be President’
    By AMY CHOZICK
    APRIL 20, 2018

    I figured that if anyone knew whom Mrs. Clinton was referring to with that insidious “they” that, like some invisible army of adversaries (real and imagined), wielded its collective power and caused her to lose the most winnable presidential election in modern history, it was me.

    They were the vast-right wing conspiracy. They were the patriarchy that could never let an ambitious former first lady finally shatter “that highest, hardest glass ceiling.” They were the people of Wisconsin and James Comey. They were white suburban women who would rather vote for a man who bragged about sexual assault than a woman who seemed an affront to who they were.

    And yes, they were political reporters (“big egos and no brains,” she called us) hounding her about her emails and transfixed by the spectacle of the first reality TV show candidate.

    It’s dizzying to realize that without even knowing it, you’ve ended up on the wrong side of history. Months after the election, every time I heard the words “Russia” and “collude,” this realization swirled in my head, enveloping everything.
    ......

    The Bernie Bros and Mr. Trump’s Twitter trolls had called me a donkey-faced whore and a Hillary shill, but nothing hurt worse than my own colleagues calling me a de facto instrument of Russian intelligence. The worst part was, they were right.
     

    I don’t understand this article.

    Is the author in a bubble or irreality where shadowy outside forces steal Hillary’s victory and she (the author) is an accomplice in this for writing about Podesta’s e-mail or is she saying it’s all bullshit by navel-gazing irresponsible freaks in a hall of mirrors and the complainers should go f*ck themselves?

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  97. @Jim Don Bob
    God smiled on America that night when HRC lost the election.

    God doesn’t exist.

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  98. @Sunbeam
    "After the election, Bill would spread a more absurd Times conspiracy: The publisher had struck a deal with Trump that we’d destroy Hillary on her emails to help him get elected,"

    Does the NY Times really have that kind of influence? What fraction of voters even read this?

    Particularly in the states that were the battlegrounds.

    Really kind of curious as to where things go. If you buy a paper like Bezos did the Post, I'm really not sure he is getting much bang for his buck, other than the fact that people in the Beltway probably know what they wrote about any given day.

    But it's not like controlling the Times or Post is going to light a fire under people's butts in Peoria to impeach Trump - or vote for Hillary.

    Given the full court press the national media outlets have been putting on Trump, if they don't produce a major scalp in either the midterms or 2020 (and probably both), I think a lot of well heeled types are going to ask themselves whether these media outlets are worth it at all.

    And despite the current hoopla, are there really definable benefits for companies to advertise on Google or use Facebook data? You'd think, but my understanding is that results seem to have been very sketchy so far.

    One of the major blind spot of the Clinton machine was ignoring flyover country. They wanted to appeal to people that read the NYT and mass media culture. That’s why they had these ridiculous concerts with JayZ and LeBron James. They also did it to get out the black vote.

    Anyway the Trump people astutely bought ad time in small markets in key states. When Trump team switched out of buying ads in cities like Miami and instead bought in smaller markets, the media went beserk on Twitter. It was proof to them that Trump was running out of money and campaign was on life support. The concept of anyone bothering to reach people outside of large media markets was completely foreign.

    Also Trump’s team astutely made a deal with Sinclair broadcasting which is a major news provider in many local markets. They also bought ads in local papers and when he appeared at a rally in a town it of course dominated the news there. An astute journalist mentioned during the campaign that while the national media’s tone towards Trump was decidedly negative it was less so in local press.

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    Ed, you know, a lot of NYT articles only get read because people like Steve publish them. They are red meat to people like us and nourish our dislike for the fringe left.
    , @Mr. Anon

    One of the major blind spot of the Clinton machine was ignoring flyover country. They wanted to appeal to people that read the NYT and mass media culture. That’s why they had these ridiculous concerts with JayZ and LeBron James. They also did it to get out the black vote.
     
    Even when appealing to the black vote, they seemed tone deaf. Remember that big last minute concert/rally in Philadelphia? With Bruce Springsteen headlining. Is The Boss really that popular with black people?
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  99. @Moses
    Get ready. Hillary is going to run again in 2020. As long as she's drawing breath, she's running.

    She's kryptonite now. A gift that keeps on giving.

    “Get ready. Hillary is going to run again in 2020.”

    I think you are absolutely right! My friends (the Democrat ones especially) laugh at me, but she is Jason in Friday the 13th.

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  100. @Silva
    I don't know why Weinstein would be worried then - because generally, Trump's been excellent to Jews, and this wasn't hard to foresee. Has he targeted Hollywood, and was this foreseeable?

    I’m convinced Harvey would still be doing his thing if Hillary was elected. The Left had to pretend that it cared about Hollywood depravity with Trump in office. Nevermind the day before Malia Obama was interning for Wienstein and Left is constantly milking the Hollywood cash cow for campaign contributions.

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    I don't know why Weinstein would be worried then - because generally, Trump's been excellent to Jews, and this wasn't hard to foresee. Has he targeted Hollywood, and was this foreseeable?

    I’m convinced Harvey would still be doing his thing if Hillary was elected. The Left had to pretend that it cared about Hollywood depravity with Trump in office. Nevermind the day before Malia Obama was interning for Wienstein and Left is constantly milking the Hollywood cash cow for campaign contributions.

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  102. @J.Ross
    >Pablo They Gomez
    OF COURSE! Staring us in the face all along! How could we forget who They is?
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  103. @Sunbeam
    "After the election, Bill would spread a more absurd Times conspiracy: The publisher had struck a deal with Trump that we’d destroy Hillary on her emails to help him get elected,"

    Does the NY Times really have that kind of influence? What fraction of voters even read this?

    Particularly in the states that were the battlegrounds.

    Really kind of curious as to where things go. If you buy a paper like Bezos did the Post, I'm really not sure he is getting much bang for his buck, other than the fact that people in the Beltway probably know what they wrote about any given day.

    But it's not like controlling the Times or Post is going to light a fire under people's butts in Peoria to impeach Trump - or vote for Hillary.

    Given the full court press the national media outlets have been putting on Trump, if they don't produce a major scalp in either the midterms or 2020 (and probably both), I think a lot of well heeled types are going to ask themselves whether these media outlets are worth it at all.

    And despite the current hoopla, are there really definable benefits for companies to advertise on Google or use Facebook data? You'd think, but my understanding is that results seem to have been very sketchy so far.

    …are there really definable benefits for companies to advertise on Google or use Facebook data?

    Having worked in advertising, I can assure you that we were not at all sure ourselves that there are definable benefits for companies to advertise at all. In some cases, obviously, yes. In many others, probably not.

    My wife has a small mail-order business and has recently given up on advertising in magazines. Their ad departments continue to hound her, of course, but she doesn’t see a return and their page rates are too expensive. She now advertises on Facebook and she gets these encouraging reports on how may people looked at her ad, liked it, or shared it. But are these stats even reliable? We know Facebook does a lot of lying. However, she has noticed a small uptick in orders so she’ll keep advertising on Facebook, largely because it’s quite cheap.

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    Last year YouTube and Facebook were caught exaggerrating numbers and had a decline in sales; those energetic reports might be part of a reaction to that.
    There is a whole book's worth of news about social media that is under-reported by the legacy media, and overshadowed by babbling about Russians. Theresa May just called Maryam ("SyrianGirl") a bot!
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  104. Hilary is such a gift – her off-the-charts level of hubris and total inability to take any responsibility for the fact that her unpopularity is almost entirely a product of her own behavior over three decades in the national spotlight reminds even Democrats of what a massive mistake it is to just assume the arc of history will deliver the outcome you desire.

    That said, I doubt the GOP and Trump will get to fight on such favorable terrain in 2020.

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    Nah, 2020 will be a blowout in favor of Trump barring any madness in the next two years.

    I know a lot of people get the vapors here over Kamela Harris, but imagine all the negatives of Hillary magnified through black megalomania and sans the "good times" memories of a Bill Clinton to attach yourself to.

    Yeah. That's the leading contender for 2020. Her deploreables moment will be telling a hard scrabble white farmer in his 60s that he needs to "check his privilege".

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  105. @Anonym
    You missed the most interesting part. I just remember the main quote but there were actually 3 baskets.

    That was no slip of the tongue, since “Hillary always broke down Trump supporters into three baskets,” Chozick writes.

    “Basket #1: The Republicans who hated her and would vote Republican no matter who the nominee.
    Basket #2: Voters whose jobs and livelihoods had disappeared, or as Hillary said, ‘who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens in their lives and their futures.’
    Basket #3: The Deplorables. This basket includes ‘the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it.’
     
    I think I fit into all 3 baskets, at least in terms of no Democrat worrying about white people and straight white men in particular. The Democrats are the anti-white party and have been since Obama at least. All of those baskets follow from that point. With mass immigration and PC the third basket is a fait accompli. I don't agree with the terms but as far as the attitudes in reaction to the white genocide program, that's what they call us.

    If Bill had been able to run the campaign they may have pulled it off.

    The Deplorables. This basket includes ‘the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it.’

    Not considered Deplorable are all the racist, sexist, homophobic, and Islamophobic blacks, Muslims, or Mexicans who can be counted on to vote Democrat. It goes without saying.

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    Not considered Deplorable are all the racist, sexist, homophobic, and Islamophobic blacks, Muslims, or Mexicans who can be counted on to vote Democrat. It goes without saying.

     

    Those are "Implorables".
    , @Anonym
    Her baskets as messaging were on the nose, and as analysis they weren't great but even as mediocre as they were, she still didn't take it to the logical conclusion.

    Taken on face value, that sort of analysis at best should tell you who you are going to focus on in order to pry away votes to either vote for you or at least not vote for Trump. Baskets 1 and 3 are obviously never going to vote for Hillary (her analysis). To recap on basket 2:

    Basket #2: Voters whose jobs and livelihoods had disappeared, or as Hillary said, ‘who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens in their lives and their futures.’
     
    So what did she do for them?

    'Bill didn't buy the excuse that Comey would cost Hillary the election,' said the source. 'As far as he was concerned, all the blame belonged to [campaign manager Robby] Mook, [campaign chairman John] Podesta and Hillary because they displayed a tone-deaf attitude about the feeble economy and its impact on millions and millions of working-class voters.
     
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3935800/Days-losing-election-Hillary-Bill-Clinton-sceaming-match-blame-flagging-campaign-ex-president-angry-threw-phone-roof-Arkansas-penthouse.html
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  106. @slumber_j

    Who is “They”?
     
    Yeah, that was my immediate response when I read that piece. I think she may be even weirder than she thinks we think she is.

    The R-Russians …

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  107. @Tyrion 2

    she believed it was in careful pursuit of a dream for generations of Americans: the election of the country’s first woman president.”
     
    Hillary is significantly less intellectually serious than the silliest Daily Stormer-esque Nazi troll on the internet - all whom would probably vote for any sex/race/religion if that individual was sure to pursue the right policies.

    Bill and Hillary, still stuck in the 1990s, feared the Bush surname most of all.”
     
    Yuck.

    “You know, I am getting pretty tired of hearing about how nobody likes me,” she said.

    “‘Oh, what’s the point? They’re never going to like me,’ Hillary told this friend.”
     
    They'd like you, if you did something good for them. Or at least if you stopped stomping on their face while crying about how you're the victim.

    Heck, half of the people on this site would name/rename their daughters 'Hillary Rodham" if you'd campaign for the following 3 policies:

    1. Immigration moratorium, or close enough.

    2. Re-balance trade.

    3. Bring the troops home, even very gradually.

    ‘I knew it. I knew this would happen to me….’ Hillary said, now within a couple of inches of his face. ‘They were never going to let me be president.’”
     
    Gross.

    Didn’t Obama tell her, “you are likeable enough, Hillary”.

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  108. This ‘they’ business is another indicator of her thinking process. She could never take responsibility for the results of her own behavior or conceive that she may have shortcomings. She has the self-centeredness of a sociopath.

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  109. @It's All Ball Bearings
    As a Christian I shouldn't find satisfaction in another's demise, but Hillary is such an evil bitch that I was so ecstatic at 3 a.m. Nov 9 and wanted to see that demon give a concession speech. She let me down. I watch replays of TYT or Maddow election night coverage to get that satisfaction. I'm not the only one judging by the # of views. She is truly hated, and now more and more by Dems as well.

    I agree that her refusal to deliver a concession speech was the culminating disgrace of her candidacy. And (also speaking as a Christian) it was delicious.

    My conclusion at the time is that she was simply unfit to do so: too drunk, too enraged. I don’t know if her lackies had to restrain her physically or medicinally, but it wouldn’t surprise me. Nothing I’ve read since then has caused me to alter that conclusion. Someone must have video of at least part of that night, though, and I look forward to its release.

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  110. @Harry Baldwin
    The Deplorables. This basket includes ‘the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it.’

    Not considered Deplorable are all the racist, sexist, homophobic, and Islamophobic blacks, Muslims, or Mexicans who can be counted on to vote Democrat. It goes without saying.

    Not considered Deplorable are all the racist, sexist, homophobic, and Islamophobic blacks, Muslims, or Mexicans who can be counted on to vote Democrat. It goes without saying.

    Those are “Implorables”.

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  111. Just to be fair, I think someone like Hillary Clinton has a pretty dependable sense of who “They” are, and she is not talking about any creatures of flesh and blood. Those who sell their souls for earthly power often realize, sometimes quite early, that the Devil hates those who serve him no less than others, that he destines them for the same miserable end he would fain visit upon everyone; and this is the mark of their damnation, that knowing things to be so, they embrace all his pomps and empty promises nonetheless.

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    Those who sell their souls for earthly power often realize, sometimes quite early, that the Devil hates those who serve him no less than others, that he destines them for the same miserable end he would fain visit upon everyone; and this is the mark of their damnation, that knowing things to be so, they embrace all his pomps and empty promises nonetheless.
     
    Dude, this is so good I had to come out of comment retirement to give you an attaboy.

    Only thing I can say is I hope you have a wider audience for your output. iSteve is a fun place and all but at heart a bunch of carping dead-enders whose world ended decades ago and isn't coming back any more than the South is going to.
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  112. @Peter Akuleyev
    They and the rest of the mainstream media were absolutely in the tank for her.

    Fox News is also "mainstream" and has far more political influence than the NYT. The New York Times reaches maybe 3M people, the vast majority of whom pick the NYT precisely becauses it reinforces the political views they already hold. Even if the NYT had convinced every one of its Republican readers to vote for Clinton instead of Trump it would make very little difference since almost all those Republican readers live in blue states.

    “Fox News is also “mainstream” and has far more political influence than the NYT. The New York Times reaches maybe 3M people, the vast majority of whom pick the NYT precisely becauses it reinforces the political views they already hold.”

    You don’t NOTICE that some people who read the NYT may not be politically minded, or may actually be Republicans who read other parts of the paper for information, sports, etc. And perhaps you also didn’t NOTICE that a great deal of those views were watch Fox News are also having their positions hardened as well. It’s called confirmation bias.

    And our beloved host neglected to NOTICE–he has been doing that lately–that the use of “cuck” and “race realist” by the Alt Right on white people have a similar impact to that of Shitlery sneering at “deplorables”.

    Furthermore, why no direct insight on the investigation of Trump by Mr. Sailer in the viewing audience? That’s easy. Mr. Sailer does not want any potential blowback should the dozens of allegations, some of which have substantial and credible evidence behind them, stain his reputation. Cagey on his part to not even NOTICE it.

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    Oh C'OyVeynus, lovin' the concern troll.
    , @ben tillman

    Furthermore, why no direct insight on the investigation of Trump by Mr. Sailer in the viewing audience?
     
    When did Steve start investigating the President?
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  113. @Lugash

    “Of all the Brooklyn aides, Jen Palmieri had the most pleasant bedside manner,” Chozick writes.
     
    LOL, that's hilarious. Imagine being woken up by this mug to be told you're going to lost the presidency to DJT

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Jennifer_Palmieri%2C_Aug._2013_%28cropped%29.jpg

    Not sure I believe this recounting of election night. Are we to believe that she went to bed and was sound asleep while it was playing out? If so, it was probably only because she was slamming down hard liquor all night, watching the returns. Her face that morning certainly looked like she hadn’t had a minute of sleep.

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  114. @indocon
    The sad thing is that the one accomplishment Trump can claim, the tax cuts, exclusively benefit all those people who were laughing at the deplorables in Hamptons, Beverly Hills, Silicon Valley, Manhattan. All deplorables have gotten out of Trump is hot rhetoric.

    You’re repeating the so-called mainstream media’s big lie. My net pay increased in February, and I’m as far removed from those enclaves you mention as one can be. In addition, we got a Constitutionalist on the Supreme Court and our SOB in the White House (we nominated a Boy Scout in 2012, and the Left turned him into an SOB…so this time, we saved them the effort and gave them the real thing).

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  115. It’s not just that I don’t hate Trump as I do the Hildabeast (but just have started to think he is incompetent). It’s just such a relief to know that she’s probably not the AntiChrist, knowing that an AntiChrist would be able to fix a presidential election, were he any kind of AntiChrist worth his salt, anyway.

    I will really enjoy perusing the comments later on today.

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  116. @Anon
    I have always thought Hillary Clinton is a masochist. She shares that trait with Nixon. Nixon wrote a book about his Six Crises, but they were all entirely of his own making, and he could have stayed out of trouble if he wanted it.

    Clinton has the exact same trait. She has gotten into an incredible amount of messes entirely of her own making, and and she has never been able to stay out of trouble for any particular length of time.

    For a masochist, being in trouble is a psychological necessity. They seek it deliberately. I'm glad she didn't become president, because she's probably get us nuked.

    I think it started with her father, who browbeat her thoroughly when she was young, and she soon began to associate parental love--and then love in general--with being pushed around. That's why she started out as a Goldwater girl, which is lunacy if you're a feminist. Then in the late 60s, she went to the other extreme, when the hippies were beginning to wear out their welcome. If you wanted to become unpopular with the majority at that particular time, being a hardcore left-wing hippie was the way to do it. That's why Nixon got elected. The majority were scared by all the crazy left-wingers.

    Then she married a guy whom she had to know was a womanizer. Bill Clinton chased every woman in sight, and she has stuck by him despite his infidelities, which is classic masochism. She then invested in cattle futures, which is insanely risky and could have destroyed the Clintons' finances entirely, and she ended up having to be rescued by people who wanted to do the Clintons a favor.

    She ran against Obama, and got beaten like a donkey by him, and what did she do? She went to work for him. Classic masochism. She wanted more suffering. She knew perfectly well when it came to a lightweight like Obama, she would take the blame for his mistakes. She failed to show due diligence in a country that was collapsing and undergoing utter chaos, namely Libya, and got into trouble for that, even though she could have avoided it by using a little common sense. Of course you have to protect your Embassy when a country is falling apart. Any idiot knows that.

    Then she blithely put all her classified emails on an unprotected server. Any rational person could guess she would be spied on. She stuffed her pockets via the Clinton Foundation with as much loot as she could, thoroughly disgracing herself in the eyes of anyone concerned with financial malfeasance. This is why Bernie Sanders made such inroads among Democrats. Any politician with any common sense knows you get rich after you're out of office, not before. Doing so beforehand makes you look like a greedy hog on the take and ruins your reputation and your chance to get elected.

    Even now, she's doing the rounds complaining and carrying on in such a sour old bag manner that she has spoiled her reputation even among Democrats, and they're so sick of her they will never pick her to run in 2020. Clinton is complaining longer and more relentlessly than any other loser in any other presidential election that we've ever had. This is Clinton deliberately choosing to sabotage herself again.

    All the above are not examples of stupidity. Hillary Clinton is not stupid. She's doing things like this deliberately to make trouble for herself because she gets a psychological kick out of being in trouble.

    Could also be described as a martyr for the feminist cause. I think, by “they”, she means the male power structure, whether Left or Right.

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  117. @Sunbeam
    "After the election, Bill would spread a more absurd Times conspiracy: The publisher had struck a deal with Trump that we’d destroy Hillary on her emails to help him get elected,"

    Does the NY Times really have that kind of influence? What fraction of voters even read this?

    Particularly in the states that were the battlegrounds.

    Really kind of curious as to where things go. If you buy a paper like Bezos did the Post, I'm really not sure he is getting much bang for his buck, other than the fact that people in the Beltway probably know what they wrote about any given day.

    But it's not like controlling the Times or Post is going to light a fire under people's butts in Peoria to impeach Trump - or vote for Hillary.

    Given the full court press the national media outlets have been putting on Trump, if they don't produce a major scalp in either the midterms or 2020 (and probably both), I think a lot of well heeled types are going to ask themselves whether these media outlets are worth it at all.

    And despite the current hoopla, are there really definable benefits for companies to advertise on Google or use Facebook data? You'd think, but my understanding is that results seem to have been very sketchy so far.

    Sheesh. It’s not that flyover reads the Times, it’s that the rest of the media takes its leads from NYT (and WaPo). Why does local news suddenly start carrying one-off stories that have nothing to do with the locality? Usually some “issue” raised by their heroes back east.

    I think what Hillary really meant is that she expected NYT to carry the day for her, but they let her down. So screw ‘em.

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  118. @Svigor

    ‘They were never going to let me be president.’”
     
    Completely tone-deaf. TPTB were so convinced that cankles had it in the bag, they put it on cruise control and fell asleep at the wheel.

    LOL, that’s hilarious. Imagine being woken up by this mug to be told you’re going to lost the presidency to DJT
     
    Yeah, now imagine you're a crazy catty narcissistic yenta like Hillary; sending an ugly, post-menopausal, servile woman is the safe bet.

    Svigor…..”Let me be president.” That’s major ballsy, but we let Obama be president and we didn’t like that.

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  119. @Corvinus
    "Fox News is also “mainstream” and has far more political influence than the NYT. The New York Times reaches maybe 3M people, the vast majority of whom pick the NYT precisely becauses it reinforces the political views they already hold."

    You don't NOTICE that some people who read the NYT may not be politically minded, or may actually be Republicans who read other parts of the paper for information, sports, etc. And perhaps you also didn't NOTICE that a great deal of those views were watch Fox News are also having their positions hardened as well. It's called confirmation bias.

    And our beloved host neglected to NOTICE--he has been doing that lately--that the use of "cuck" and "race realist" by the Alt Right on white people have a similar impact to that of Shitlery sneering at "deplorables".

    Furthermore, why no direct insight on the investigation of Trump by Mr. Sailer in the viewing audience? That's easy. Mr. Sailer does not want any potential blowback should the dozens of allegations, some of which have substantial and credible evidence behind them, stain his reputation. Cagey on his part to not even NOTICE it.

    Oh C’OyVeynus, lovin’ the concern troll.

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    "Oh C’OyVeynus, lovin’ the concern troll."

    Exactly what I expect a Coalition of the Fringe adherent to say. It's not about "concern", it's about being honest with oneself and admitting that this group in particular seeks information to confirm their beliefs. Anything else that threatens the narrative is discounted.

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  120. Anon[238] • Disclaimer says:

    And have you not NOTICED your own biases, Corvinus? Do you really think your pretending to be objective and even-handed in your analysis is believed by anyone here?

    Post again when Trump is in handcuffs for one of the credible allegations you so fervently want to believe is true. Yeah, a real objective and even-handed observer you are!

    In the future, please NOTICE what a supercilious hypocritical douchebag you have become. And cuck. Yeah, that’s right, you are a cuck too.

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    "And have you not NOTICED your own biases, Corvinus?"

    More than you will ever know or care to admit.

    "Do you really think your pretending to be objective and even-handed in your analysis is believed by anyone here?"

    I am observably much more objective and even-handed compared to you and others here.

    "Post again when Trump is in handcuffs for one of the credible allegations you so fervently want to believe is true. Yeah, a real objective and even-handed observer you are!"

    NOTICE that I said allegations. NOTICE that there is indeed evidence and sources that make it certainly appear that the Trump team engaged in a boatload of illegal activity. Why not actually immerse yourself into the narrative rather than close your eyes and put your hands over your ears and like a little girl say "No, it's not true, I'm not listening, it's all a lie". But feel free to be an ostrich with your head in the sand.

    "In the future, please NOTICE what a supercilious hypocritical douchebag you have become. And cuck. Yeah, that’s right, you are a cuck too."

    Again, the word "cuck" is overused and observably means next to nothing. It has lost its cache.
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  121. CK says:
    @Anonym
    You missed the most interesting part. I just remember the main quote but there were actually 3 baskets.

    That was no slip of the tongue, since “Hillary always broke down Trump supporters into three baskets,” Chozick writes.

    “Basket #1: The Republicans who hated her and would vote Republican no matter who the nominee.
    Basket #2: Voters whose jobs and livelihoods had disappeared, or as Hillary said, ‘who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens in their lives and their futures.’
    Basket #3: The Deplorables. This basket includes ‘the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it.’
     
    I think I fit into all 3 baskets, at least in terms of no Democrat worrying about white people and straight white men in particular. The Democrats are the anti-white party and have been since Obama at least. All of those baskets follow from that point. With mass immigration and PC the third basket is a fait accompli. I don't agree with the terms but as far as the attitudes in reaction to the white genocide program, that's what they call us.

    If Bill had been able to run the campaign they may have pulled it off.

    Bill is one of they.
    Does anyone think, for the smallest minute, that he wanted to have to play second fiddle to that woman, in public, as the First “Gentleman”?
    When you have been the king of the hill, being the urinal on the downhill slope is not an attractive proposition.
    And concurrently do you think that Hillary wanted him anywhere near visible in her campaign?
    If she had won it would have been because of him, as it is she lost without his help.

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    Does anyone think, for the smallest minute, that he wanted to have to play second fiddle to that woman, in public, as the First “Gentleman”?

    Not really but as a power behind the throne and as access to power it would have been worth it. He obviously wanted it - see my Daily Mail article that I have linked to several times to date. Remember what Henry Kissinger said - "Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac". And as a fairly typical looking Jewish guy not as good looking as say, Bibi, he would be better placed to appraise the efficacy of aphrodisiacs.

    If you want power that badly, you do what you need to do to win. You have The Clinton Bodycount as evidence of them playing to win, and then Hillary goes and ignores a two time president (pun unintentional, but I like it) in favor of wet-behind-the-ears Robby Mook. Dumb.
    , @Anonymous
    Does anyone else suspect that Hillary made plans to have Bill "offed" in dramatic fashion around November 6, 2018?

    This would have achieved a sympathy bump in her popularity which would probably peak two days later, November 8.

    At the same time, president Hillary would have been rid of Bill overshadowing her going forward.

    Bill - the REAL master politician - will have anticipated such attempts and no doubt took real precautions to stay away after mid-October.

    Some of the Comey drama re emails etc. may well have been stage-managed by Bill through cut-outs. In fact, it would not be surprising if Bill was party to a deal along these lines with Team Trump and both parties' moneyed backers.

    , @Anon
    He was probably holed up at home with a big supply of viagra and a new girl every half hour.
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  122. @Moses
    Get ready. Hillary is going to run again in 2020. As long as she's drawing breath, she's running.

    She's kryptonite now. A gift that keeps on giving.

    Mo, I think that Hillary drained her well of donations last time around and I don’t think the DNC is in her hip pocket anymore. Bernie will run again and the far left will shred themselves trying to decide if Corey Booker, Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris should get the nod.

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    Don't forget Obama's attorney general, Eric Holder. Wall Street instrument Holder is also an extreme racialist. It could be Holder and Harris, the brown ticket that will make white liberals drool. Californians know Harris is an empty pants suit; but Holder is a different beast altogether. Should he get executive power it'll be bad for Whitey.
    , @Alfa158
    It’s interesting to watch the Democrats trying to develop their challenger for 2020. So far the leading prospects are the three you mentioned, who are almost guaranteed to lose to Trump, and Biden who is too pale and male to win the nomination. I wonder if this is because the present co-chairs of the DNC are a pair of idiots? A few cycles back Chuck Schumer, who is actually bright, won the Senate back for the Democrats by holding his nose and putting up centric candidates for Senate seats, who may not be ideologically pure enough, but once in office would vote as directed to by the party commissars.
    Perhaps right now, the faithful aren’t concerned about the competitiveness of their next Presidential candidate because they figure they are going to sink Trump before the election and anyone they nominate will just waltz in. Having three hard Leftists; a closeted dim-bulb black gay, an open gay, and an angry dim-bulb mystery meat, as the front-runners doesn’t presently alarm anyone. If Trump survives maybe the party will have to get serious, Schumer will take the lead, and they will pick an attractive, mildly left-center candidate like Kirsten Gillibrand who could most likely beat Trump.
    , @Cato
    The Democrats don't know whether to turn right or left, and could well just go on with the same old message, and the same old Hillary.

    But Trump has been such a disappointment that one can imagine a successful Republican challenger who has grabbed bits and pieces of the Trump message. Not that hard really, to show greater sensitivity to the damage illegal immigration has done to working class Americans, or to appreciate the value of peace in the Middle East.
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  123. @istevefan
    I was going to write something,but when I saw this tweet I knew I could not express my sentiments about this post any better:

    Incredible to me that someone who was handed a Senate seat and then for no reason at all made secstate and then had the path to a nomination bulldozed for her and then got the exact opponent she pushed for...still talks like this. Gross. pic.twitter.com/Zy27DP2SJs— Seth Mandel (@SethAMandel) April 20, 2018
     

    Incredible to me that someone who was handed a Senate seat and then for no reason at all made secstate and then had the path to a nomination bulldozed for her and then got the exact opponent she pushed for…still talks like this. Gross.

    Exactly.

    It’s actually even worse. Hillary has been either a mediocrity or, often, an outright failure at every position she has occupied her whole life.

    Look through the list:
    – lawyer — Whitewater
    – Arkansas first lady — cattle futures
    – Health care task force leader — disaster
    – First lady — a net negative for her husband
    – NY Senator — ok, this one is just mediocre, nothing of note
    – Pres candidate #1 — frontrunner, blew it
    – Sec of State — overall failure, bengazi disaster, plus email scandal

    It’s actually a record of continual incompetence and failure. And yet believes because she’s failed upward, that she’s somehow “paid her dues” or “has the resume” and deserves to be the first female President.

    The idea that one is expected to actually *perform* and *excel* in a particular position to deserve the next position seems beyond her.

    Hillary might be surprised but there are actually a fair number of American men and women who actually do superb work at their jobs–maybe an occasional misstep they learn from–and slowly climb up. Most folks don’t get to screw up repeatedly and get to “fail up”.

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    This is evergreen: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/926404/posts

    J. Bradford DeLong is a professor of economics at Berkeley. DeLong worked with Hillary Clinton on the health-care taskforce of 1993-94. Here are his thoughts about Hillary Clinton's presidential ambitions:

    "My two cents' worth--and I think it is the two cents' worth of everybody who worked for the Clinton Administration health care reform effort of 1993-1994--is that Hillary Rodham Clinton needs to be kept very far away from the White House for the rest of her life. Heading up health-care reform was the only major administrative job she has ever tried to do. And she was a complete flop at it. She had neither the grasp of policy substance, the managerial skills, nor the political smarts to do the job she was then given. And she wasn't smart enough to realize that she was in over her head and had to get out of the Health Care Czar role quickly.

    "So when senior members of the economic team said that key senators like Daniel Patrick Moynihan would have this-and-that objection, she told them they were disloyal. When junior members of the economic team told her that the Congressional Budget Office would say such-and-such, she told them (wrongly) that her conversations with CBO head Robert Reischauer had already fixed that. When long-time senior hill staffers told her that she was making a dreadful mistake by fighting with rather than reaching out to John Breaux and Jim Cooper, she told them that they did not understand the wave of popular political support the bill would generate. And when substantive objections were raised to the plan by analysts calculating the moral hazard and adverse selection pressures it would put on the nation's health-care system... [ellipses in original]

    "Hillary Rodham Clinton has already flopped as a senior administrative official in the executive branch--the equivalent of an Undersecretary. Perhaps she will make a good senator. But there is no reason to think that she would be anything but an abysmal president"

    , @Murray
    This is leftist credentialism in a nutshell. It doesn't matter how poorly you performed, what matters is that it was your liberal bum warming that seat. That, in and of itself, makes you "qualified".
    , @Old fogey
    Excellent comment, Joe. Bravo.
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  124. @Bleuteaux
    Completely OT:

    I saw the movie "300" this week for the first time, based on the repeated references to the movie here in the comments section. I cannot believe this movie somehow got made. Wow. Is this the most subversive Hollywood movie every made? Simply incredible.

    Bleu, I am confused by your comment. “300″ had a base in history, enough gore for the Tarantino blood porn fans, enough buff bodies for the gay market and horny gals, a rape scene and just a touch of nudity to add a little tenderness. Who wouldn’t back this movie?

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    You mean shitting on history (not just in the depiction of Iranians)? I wouldn't.
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  125. @Harry Baldwin
    The Deplorables. This basket includes ‘the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it.’

    Not considered Deplorable are all the racist, sexist, homophobic, and Islamophobic blacks, Muslims, or Mexicans who can be counted on to vote Democrat. It goes without saying.

    Her baskets as messaging were on the nose, and as analysis they weren’t great but even as mediocre as they were, she still didn’t take it to the logical conclusion.

    Taken on face value, that sort of analysis at best should tell you who you are going to focus on in order to pry away votes to either vote for you or at least not vote for Trump. Baskets 1 and 3 are obviously never going to vote for Hillary (her analysis). To recap on basket 2:

    Basket #2: Voters whose jobs and livelihoods had disappeared, or as Hillary said, ‘who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens in their lives and their futures.’

    So what did she do for them?

    ‘Bill didn’t buy the excuse that Comey would cost Hillary the election,’ said the source. ‘As far as he was concerned, all the blame belonged to [campaign manager Robby] Mook, [campaign chairman John] Podesta and Hillary because they displayed a tone-deaf attitude about the feeble economy and its impact on millions and millions of working-class voters.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3935800/Days-losing-election-Hillary-Bill-Clinton-sceaming-match-blame-flagging-campaign-ex-president-angry-threw-phone-roof-Arkansas-penthouse.html

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  126. @theMann
    The general problem with high level Democrats is that they live in such a tightly sealed bubble that they actually don't realize how much ordinary Americans despise them, and this has been the case for decades. Pauline Kael's notorious observation "I don't know a single person who voted for Richard Nixon" is now almost fifty years old, and things have only gotten worse.


    One of the major problems for Democrats is that the Press, Academia, and Hollywood have become so obsequious in shilling for Democratic candidates that they get no quality information about issues, campaigns, opponents, really much of anything but self serving fantasies about how wonderful Democrats are, and how much everyone loves them. (Republicans are actually improved by Press hostility - weak candidates are weeded out, strong candidates become even stronger.) So when Democrats lose, they actually cannot believe it. Since the voters looooove them, and they are told this every day, there has to be SOME explanation other than voter rejection for their losses.


    The Democrats, apparently through chicanery, nominated a Candidate who has worked paying jobs for maybe ten years of her life, but was worth a quarter of a billion; had more unflattering nicknames than every other Presidential Candidate in US history combined; and was running on a ticket for a Party that had spent eight years nuking coal country while deliberately pursuing racial divisiveness on every level; but CLEARLY she lost because she was cheated.

    Wow.

    theMann, Obama’s work resume’ was thinner than Hillary’s but he was the niche candidate, the first black president. Hillary was the next niche up, the first female president, to be followed by the first Hispanic, gay, trans whatever.

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  127. @Anonym
    You missed the most interesting part. I just remember the main quote but there were actually 3 baskets.

    That was no slip of the tongue, since “Hillary always broke down Trump supporters into three baskets,” Chozick writes.

    “Basket #1: The Republicans who hated her and would vote Republican no matter who the nominee.
    Basket #2: Voters whose jobs and livelihoods had disappeared, or as Hillary said, ‘who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens in their lives and their futures.’
    Basket #3: The Deplorables. This basket includes ‘the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it.’
     
    I think I fit into all 3 baskets, at least in terms of no Democrat worrying about white people and straight white men in particular. The Democrats are the anti-white party and have been since Obama at least. All of those baskets follow from that point. With mass immigration and PC the third basket is a fait accompli. I don't agree with the terms but as far as the attitudes in reaction to the white genocide program, that's what they call us.

    If Bill had been able to run the campaign they may have pulled it off.

    Anonym, the democrats have exactly the same baskets if you think about it , especially Basket #1. The dem’s Basket #2 should actually be filled with all the blacks that have labored on their political plantation and have never been allowed in the Masta’s house. Basket #3 would be filled with all the fringe element dems who hate anyone who doesn’t agree with them.

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    Anonym, the democrats have exactly the same baskets if you think about it , especially Basket #1. The dem’s Basket #2 should actually be filled with all the blacks that have labored on their political plantation and have never been allowed in the Masta’s house. Basket #3 would be filled with all the fringe element dems who hate anyone who doesn’t agree with them.

    Basket #2 is the only one that matters in a campaign. You are not going to peel off enough of them in an election to matter, they are the most polarized voting bloc there is. Gibsmedats determine it, and you'd lose far too many whites to go after them. Blacks are either in #1 or #3, not #2 (in commercial quantities, you get the occasional Diamond and Silk but they won't win an election for you except to persuade cuckservatives... maybe).

    Steve's analysis of elections in terms of things like marriage gap, white men and married women versus coalition of fringes, is far better (trenchant in the words of Marx... *spit*). Trump campaigned on the Sailer Strategy and won. Like Babe Ruth pointing to the stands, Steve pointed this one out back in 2001. Even wikipedia gives him props.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Sailer#The_"Sailer_Strategy"
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  128. @Ed
    One of the major blind spot of the Clinton machine was ignoring flyover country. They wanted to appeal to people that read the NYT and mass media culture. That’s why they had these ridiculous concerts with JayZ and LeBron James. They also did it to get out the black vote.

    Anyway the Trump people astutely bought ad time in small markets in key states. When Trump team switched out of buying ads in cities like Miami and instead bought in smaller markets, the media went beserk on Twitter. It was proof to them that Trump was running out of money and campaign was on life support. The concept of anyone bothering to reach people outside of large media markets was completely foreign.

    Also Trump’s team astutely made a deal with Sinclair broadcasting which is a major news provider in many local markets. They also bought ads in local papers and when he appeared at a rally in a town it of course dominated the news there. An astute journalist mentioned during the campaign that while the national media’s tone towards Trump was decidedly negative it was less so in local press.

    Ed, you know, a lot of NYT articles only get read because people like Steve publish them. They are red meat to people like us and nourish our dislike for the fringe left.

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  129. She makes the Dems look over the hill, whiny and out of touch so I hope she continues.

    Meanwhile the GOP is positioning itself to lose the midterms in spite of DNC odiousness. The stupid party is back.

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  130. @Anon
    Very interesting to compare Hillary's private remark with some of Trump's (in Comey's summer camp diary):

    When talking about the free media (as Comey puts it, and we can assume he means the internet, ) Trump corrects or contradicts him by calling it the 'earned media'. For Trump, in that moment, people's interest in him is something he earns, and is not given to him for being him (mostly)- at least in his own eccentric head. It shows some minimal level of respect that other people- normal, voting, blogging people- have their own agency which he must "win" over; no matter how great he finds himself (and it's safe to say he is not lacking a generous self-conception.)

    Contrast this with Hillary. Hillary imagines there is some shadowy, amorphous 'they', which prevents her desires and blunts her ambitions out of spite, and for no other reason. She is a passive observer waiting for this 'they' to finally relent and let her 'have' what she deserves (to which she is entitled). When she doesn't get it, it's open season for self-pity because this cabal has worked all her life to prevent her from having the good things like ice cream and the presidency. This cabal, being as devious as it is, is a constantly shifting conspiracy of enemies- mostly deplorables and frogs- and abstractions which never quite take human form. Humans, for Hillary, are just as passive dancing partners as she is- everyone slugs around on the dance floor until the 'theys' of the world recognize their inherent greatness- but mostly, Hillary's.

    Interesting observation.

    Another thing I still find strange is that on what was supposed to be the biggest night of her life (and of all Feminism), a night for which all candidates and all their staff, as far as I can ever remember, have always stayed awake, Hillary was apparently already in bed–not just napping on the couch, but deeply abed such that her minions feared to wake her.

    Is her physical infirmity so profound? Or is it her contempt for those who work for her? Or both?

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    Possibly, too many cosmapolitans or white wines.
    , @PapayaSF
    Alcohol can do that.
    , @Mr. Anon

    ..................Hillary was apparently already in bed–not just napping on the couch, but deeply abed such that her minions feared to wake her.

    Is her physical infirmity so profound? Or is it her contempt for those who work for her? Or both?
     
    Sort of like how Hitler's aides were afraid to wake him on D-Day.
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  131. @AnotherDad

    Incredible to me that someone who was handed a Senate seat and then for no reason at all made secstate and then had the path to a nomination bulldozed for her and then got the exact opponent she pushed for…still talks like this. Gross.
     
    Exactly.

    It's actually even worse. Hillary has been either a mediocrity or, often, an outright failure at every position she has occupied her whole life.

    Look through the list:
    -- lawyer -- Whitewater
    -- Arkansas first lady -- cattle futures
    -- Health care task force leader -- disaster
    -- First lady -- a net negative for her husband
    -- NY Senator -- ok, this one is just mediocre, nothing of note
    -- Pres candidate #1 -- frontrunner, blew it
    -- Sec of State -- overall failure, bengazi disaster, plus email scandal

    It's actually a record of continual incompetence and failure. And yet believes because she's failed upward, that she's somehow "paid her dues" or "has the resume" and deserves to be the first female President.

    The idea that one is expected to actually *perform* and *excel* in a particular position to deserve the next position seems beyond her.

    Hillary might be surprised but there are actually a fair number of American men and women who actually do superb work at their jobs--maybe an occasional misstep they learn from--and slowly climb up. Most folks don't get to screw up repeatedly and get to "fail up".

    This is evergreen: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/926404/posts

    J. Bradford DeLong is a professor of economics at Berkeley. DeLong worked with Hillary Clinton on the health-care taskforce of 1993-94. Here are his thoughts about Hillary Clinton’s presidential ambitions:

    “My two cents’ worth–and I think it is the two cents’ worth of everybody who worked for the Clinton Administration health care reform effort of 1993-1994–is that Hillary Rodham Clinton needs to be kept very far away from the White House for the rest of her life. Heading up health-care reform was the only major administrative job she has ever tried to do. And she was a complete flop at it. She had neither the grasp of policy substance, the managerial skills, nor the political smarts to do the job she was then given. And she wasn’t smart enough to realize that she was in over her head and had to get out of the Health Care Czar role quickly.

    “So when senior members of the economic team said that key senators like Daniel Patrick Moynihan would have this-and-that objection, she told them they were disloyal. When junior members of the economic team told her that the Congressional Budget Office would say such-and-such, she told them (wrongly) that her conversations with CBO head Robert Reischauer had already fixed that. When long-time senior hill staffers told her that she was making a dreadful mistake by fighting with rather than reaching out to John Breaux and Jim Cooper, she told them that they did not understand the wave of popular political support the bill would generate. And when substantive objections were raised to the plan by analysts calculating the moral hazard and adverse selection pressures it would put on the nation’s health-care system… [ellipses in original]

    “Hillary Rodham Clinton has already flopped as a senior administrative official in the executive branch–the equivalent of an Undersecretary. Perhaps she will make a good senator. But there is no reason to think that she would be anything but an abysmal president”

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  132. I just knew that the people who I just called racists, bigots and homophobes wouldn’t let me be president.

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  133. @Anon
    I have always thought Hillary Clinton is a masochist. She shares that trait with Nixon. Nixon wrote a book about his Six Crises, but they were all entirely of his own making, and he could have stayed out of trouble if he wanted it.

    Clinton has the exact same trait. She has gotten into an incredible amount of messes entirely of her own making, and and she has never been able to stay out of trouble for any particular length of time.

    For a masochist, being in trouble is a psychological necessity. They seek it deliberately. I'm glad she didn't become president, because she's probably get us nuked.

    I think it started with her father, who browbeat her thoroughly when she was young, and she soon began to associate parental love--and then love in general--with being pushed around. That's why she started out as a Goldwater girl, which is lunacy if you're a feminist. Then in the late 60s, she went to the other extreme, when the hippies were beginning to wear out their welcome. If you wanted to become unpopular with the majority at that particular time, being a hardcore left-wing hippie was the way to do it. That's why Nixon got elected. The majority were scared by all the crazy left-wingers.

    Then she married a guy whom she had to know was a womanizer. Bill Clinton chased every woman in sight, and she has stuck by him despite his infidelities, which is classic masochism. She then invested in cattle futures, which is insanely risky and could have destroyed the Clintons' finances entirely, and she ended up having to be rescued by people who wanted to do the Clintons a favor.

    She ran against Obama, and got beaten like a donkey by him, and what did she do? She went to work for him. Classic masochism. She wanted more suffering. She knew perfectly well when it came to a lightweight like Obama, she would take the blame for his mistakes. She failed to show due diligence in a country that was collapsing and undergoing utter chaos, namely Libya, and got into trouble for that, even though she could have avoided it by using a little common sense. Of course you have to protect your Embassy when a country is falling apart. Any idiot knows that.

    Then she blithely put all her classified emails on an unprotected server. Any rational person could guess she would be spied on. She stuffed her pockets via the Clinton Foundation with as much loot as she could, thoroughly disgracing herself in the eyes of anyone concerned with financial malfeasance. This is why Bernie Sanders made such inroads among Democrats. Any politician with any common sense knows you get rich after you're out of office, not before. Doing so beforehand makes you look like a greedy hog on the take and ruins your reputation and your chance to get elected.

    Even now, she's doing the rounds complaining and carrying on in such a sour old bag manner that she has spoiled her reputation even among Democrats, and they're so sick of her they will never pick her to run in 2020. Clinton is complaining longer and more relentlessly than any other loser in any other presidential election that we've ever had. This is Clinton deliberately choosing to sabotage herself again.

    All the above are not examples of stupidity. Hillary Clinton is not stupid. She's doing things like this deliberately to make trouble for herself because she gets a psychological kick out of being in trouble.

    “I think it started with her father…”

    And it ended with Tim Kaine, a guy who looks like her father.

    https://althouse.blogspot.com/2016/09/i-just-noticed-that-hillarys-dad-looks.html?m=1

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  134. @El Dato
    After closure, Elmwood Café owner says worker co-op, nonprofit could take over

    [Elmwood owner Michael Pearce] said those efforts had “included hosting a community forum, development of an implicit bias employee training curriculum, and the hiring of an outside expert to train our employees.”

     

    The commissars will do an audit later...

    in the midst of the national conversation about the arrest of two black men in a Philadelphia Starbucks.

     

    Those national conversations are fantastic.

    Opinion: Whatever the reason it closed, the Elmwood Café missed a real opportunity to be a force for change in Berkeley

    W. Kamau Bell, who lives in Berkeley, is a sociopolitical comedian and the host and executive producer of the Emmy Award winning docu-series "United Shades of America with W. Kamau Bell," premiering Sunday April 29, 10:15 p.m. on CNN.

    So, I categorically reject the assertion that is in today’s Berkeleyside article, and in numerous media outlets that covered the closing of the Elmwood Café, that the racism that my wife, my baby daughter, and I experienced at the Elmwood Café is just something that I am “claiming” occurred. The racism has been admitted to, proven, discussed, and finally — and most troublingly — ignored by the Elmwood Café. For more than three years

    So I shed no tears — nor do I hold a celebration — at the closing of the Elmwood Café. I’m more bummed about Jeremy’s and the frozen yogurt shop. Jeremy’s had some good clothing deals. And my kids love frozen yogurt. If anything, I hope Mrs. Dalloway’s bookstore, which shares a wall with the old Elmwood Café, can expand into it. Because while I don’t know if the world needs another coffee shop, I’m always happy to see big independent bookstores.
     
    Unless they carry racist books, I imagine.

    At community forum in Berkeley, W. Kamau Bell and Elmwood Café launch ‘implicit bias’ training initiative

    The comedian, who is African-American, made public on his blog how he was asked to leave the café on College Avenue while he was talking to his wife and her friends, who are all white, at an outdoor table.

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    Novella Coleman said the law does a poor job of dealing with racism. “One of huge failures of the law is that it doesn’t recognize implicit bias,” she said. “The law requires that you prove [an act of racism] is intentional. The law doesn’t recognize that biases are harbored without people knowing about them. People see themselves as progressive but they still buy into those racial biases and situations can trigger them.” She said that if employee accused of racism can provide a race-neutral explanation for their act, “then the law is good with that.”
     
    Badthink should carry fines or prison time.

    During the evening’s discussion about implicit bias Bell spoke about how he himself had had “homophobia in him” before he moved to the Bay Area but that it was “worked out of him.”

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    At the forum, an audience member asked Bell, via a written question, what made him so sure the Jan. 26 incident was a racially motivated act, and not one directed at the homeless population that is to be found around the café. Bell responded: “So what if I was homeless? Even if I’m homeless I’m a black homeless person — you can’t take that part away from me.”
     
    Just say that you are waiting for the Jewish Businessman.

    Dear old Berkeley. Sounds like it hasn’t changed a bit from the 80′s… or maybe the 50′s…

    the homeless were a gigantic problem for businesses always. They want to use the bathroom, they want to sit in the restaurant/cafe and buy nothing. They’re filthy, crazy, high, fetid, and they have loads of crap with them. Plus, they have more rights than normal people who want to either buy food or sell it in hygienic peace. No amount of money could induce me to open a business in a location where law and order are not maintained, and Berkeley is the pinnacle of that.

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  135. @wren
    They is very busy keeping Hillary out of the oval office and, apparently, limiting black genius.

    I, personally, am too dumb to quite understand what WIRED is saying in this article.

    https://www.wired.com/story/beyonce-kendrick-kanye-black-genius/

    Let me feed it into John Derbyshire’s Universal Black Journalism Translator for you.
    Buzz. Whirrr. Beep.
    Translation: Black Black Blackety Black Black Black.

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  136. @Anonymous

    New York Times reporter Amy Chozick, who follows Clinton closely, told ABC News that she was surprised by the extent of Clinton’s drinking when she began covering her.

    "She likes to drink," Chozick said. "We were on the campaign trail in 2008 and the press thought she was just taking shots to pander to voters in Pennsylvania. Um, no."
     

    http://freebeacon.com/issues/hillary-drinks/

    Hillary’s conversation with Robby Mook sounds like the kind of thing I used to hear routinely in my long-ago bartending days:

    Mook, with grave trepidation: “Madame Secretary [or Your Satanic Majesty, or whatever they called her], I have bad news…”

    Hillary, slurring: “I knew it. I knew thish would happen to me….’

    Mook, too terrified to speak, fights the urge to recoil as Hillary leans right into his face, reeking of vodka.

    Hillary: “They were never going to let me be preshident.”

    The “within a couple of inches of his face” is a dead giveaway for someone who’s three sheets to the wind, as Hillary reportedly was on election night.

    Hillary is fascinating if only for the demonstration of the power of leftist personality cults. In reality, she’s a boring nonentity, a woman who’s botched every single important (and unmerited) role she’s been appointed to, and who appears never to have had a single original thought in her life. Yet for tens of millions of people worldwide, she’s “the most qualified person ever to seek the presidency”, and a heroic martyr to progress, and they just can’t get enough of her interminable maunderings on the ever-growing list of “theys” who died her of her rightful crown.

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    "Mook, with grave trepidation: “Madame Secretary [or Your Satanic Majesty, or whatever they called her], I have bad news…” Steiner.
    , @anonymous
    The media was seething after Clarence Thomas bested Anita Hill in the SCOTUS hearings. Along comes Hillary Clinton --Wellesley College, Yale Law , "Top 100 trial lawyers" (no such thing, by the way) blah, blah, blah--the perfect feminist torch carrier. First, last and always--she was a creation of the media and a symptom of our times.
    , @Ivy

    Yet for tens of millions of people worldwide, she’s “the most qualified person ever to seek the presidency”
     
    Every time I see that quote I also see Washington, Adams, Jefferson and Madison, for example, asking each other "Gentlemen, who let the country we FOUNDED devolve into that?". The deplorability is for those who believed even for one second that Hillary should be mentioned as having any stature whatsoever for that type of comparison.
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  137. @Whiskey
    Hillary *IS* weird and icky. In related news, the "wholesome" Allison Mack of TV's "Smallville" fame has been arrested for being part of a sex cult that had her branding women on the private parts with the initials of the cult leader while telling them to think of their master. She was lured into the cult by co-star Kristin Kreuk and Richard Branson was allegedly also part of the cult.

    Point being, random celebrities seem weird and icky. Just image how weird and icky Hillary! really is - this is a big part of the revolt of the Deplorables. The internet exposes even the most minor random celebrity as being .. well downright weird.

    By contrast Trump seems a man of normal appetites. Not weird. Not icky.

    Imagine, Hillary as the candidate of Gay Wall Streeters. Babura singing like a Mecha Streisand. A more perfect Hillary! moment cannot be imagined.

    You do have a point. I gave no credit to planted rumors that he liked underage girls or twisted activities, if only because his predilection for bosomy models and showgirls is so well-known. He’s a dawg, alright, but a fairly conventional one.

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  138. @AnotherDad

    Incredible to me that someone who was handed a Senate seat and then for no reason at all made secstate and then had the path to a nomination bulldozed for her and then got the exact opponent she pushed for…still talks like this. Gross.
     
    Exactly.

    It's actually even worse. Hillary has been either a mediocrity or, often, an outright failure at every position she has occupied her whole life.

    Look through the list:
    -- lawyer -- Whitewater
    -- Arkansas first lady -- cattle futures
    -- Health care task force leader -- disaster
    -- First lady -- a net negative for her husband
    -- NY Senator -- ok, this one is just mediocre, nothing of note
    -- Pres candidate #1 -- frontrunner, blew it
    -- Sec of State -- overall failure, bengazi disaster, plus email scandal

    It's actually a record of continual incompetence and failure. And yet believes because she's failed upward, that she's somehow "paid her dues" or "has the resume" and deserves to be the first female President.

    The idea that one is expected to actually *perform* and *excel* in a particular position to deserve the next position seems beyond her.

    Hillary might be surprised but there are actually a fair number of American men and women who actually do superb work at their jobs--maybe an occasional misstep they learn from--and slowly climb up. Most folks don't get to screw up repeatedly and get to "fail up".

    This is leftist credentialism in a nutshell. It doesn’t matter how poorly you performed, what matters is that it was your liberal bum warming that seat. That, in and of itself, makes you “qualified”.

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  139. @El Dato

    Rendered through these three artists, the sweat and gristle of black genius—which is to say, the bone-tough work of black genius—was nearly impossible to escape, online and off. (...) Black artistic genius is a statement or body of work that exists in the absolute; it is singular brilliance that, even if consumed by the masses, was nurtured in and speaks to the pulse of black life. (...) Black genius work is transformative and transcendent, illuminating both the interior self and the behaviors of the exterior world.
     
    Art Student Let Out His Cage Alert. Only reading Hegel can be worse.

    Meanwhile, actual Black Scientist in Quanta Mag: A Revealer of Secrets in the Data of Life and the Universe

    This sounds almost exactly like Nazi propaganda about the Herrenvolk.

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  140. @Clifford Brown
    Revealing discussion by various Clinton and Trump campaign advisors, including Jennifer Palmieri, Robby Mook, Kellyanne Conway and Corey Lewandowski at Harvard.

    https://soundcloud.com/harvardiop/roundtable-discussion-the-general-election

    At 1:40:20 Jennifer Palmieri says that Clinton's "Basket of Deplorables" speech was the highpoint of her campaign. Quite revealing. Dogma over strategy is exactly why Clinton lost. Palmieri said that she would rather lose an election the way Clinton did, than win the way Trump did. Kellyanne Conway provides an excellent refutation.

    Good recap from one commentator from Soundcloud.
    "A big shouting match goes from around 56:30-58:30. Also they argue about the idea of the Russian thing being real or not between 1:33:26-1:34:00. Start at 1:35:40-1:36:05 for a joke. Start at 1:36:05 to hear Conway talk about why Steve Bannon was hired. Things get heated from 1:43:35-1:44:30 and “you guys are bitter” is said. From 1:45:50-1:46:30 things get heated again. Beginning at 1:50:00 they begin talking about what happened in the last 10 days of the campaigns."

    Was told in Feburary 2016 by guys in Democratic PR firm that Hilary would find a way to lose the election. Their take is that Hilary thinks she is better at everyone’s job than they are, and if you disagree strongly with her it validates that opinion and she fires you.

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  141. @Almost Missouri
    Interesting observation.

    Another thing I still find strange is that on what was supposed to be the biggest night of her life (and of all Feminism), a night for which all candidates and all their staff, as far as I can ever remember, have always stayed awake, Hillary was apparently already in bed--not just napping on the couch, but deeply abed such that her minions feared to wake her.

    Is her physical infirmity so profound? Or is it her contempt for those who work for her? Or both?

    Possibly, too many cosmapolitans or white wines.

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  142. @indocon
    The sad thing is that the one accomplishment Trump can claim, the tax cuts, exclusively benefit all those people who were laughing at the deplorables in Hamptons, Beverly Hills, Silicon Valley, Manhattan. All deplorables have gotten out of Trump is hot rhetoric.

    However “those people who were laughing at the deplorables in Hamptons, Beverly Hills, Silicon Valley, Manhattan” lost some pretty big state tax deductions.

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  143. Conspiracy theories have become the de jure explanation for Hillary’s loss, now that the Democratic Party is suing the Trump campaign, Russia and Wikileaks for interfering in the elections.

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  144. @Buffalo Joe
    Mo, I think that Hillary drained her well of donations last time around and I don't think the DNC is in her hip pocket anymore. Bernie will run again and the far left will shred themselves trying to decide if Corey Booker, Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris should get the nod.

    Don’t forget Obama’s attorney general, Eric Holder. Wall Street instrument Holder is also an extreme racialist. It could be Holder and Harris, the brown ticket that will make white liberals drool. Californians know Harris is an empty pants suit; but Holder is a different beast altogether. Should he get executive power it’ll be bad for Whitey.

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    SBS, nice reply Thank you.
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  145. @cthulhu
    Hillary! is narcissistic even for a politician. And stone paranoid to boot.

    Don’t be too hard on the old gal; she suffers from Kuru.

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    Don’t be too hard on the old gal; she suffers from Kuru.

     

    Hillary! as cannibal; I like it!
    (And kuru is transmitted by eating infected brains, so...she’s a zombie too!)
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  146. @Moses
    Get ready. Hillary is going to run again in 2020. As long as she's drawing breath, she's running.

    She's kryptonite now. A gift that keeps on giving.

    She’s kryptonite now. A gift that keeps on giving.

    A gift, one might say, of great Giftigkeit.

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  147. @wren
    They is very busy keeping Hillary out of the oval office and, apparently, limiting black genius.

    I, personally, am too dumb to quite understand what WIRED is saying in this article.

    https://www.wired.com/story/beyonce-kendrick-kanye-black-genius/

    Au contraire, black genius is Duke Ellington, John Coltrane, Wayne Shorter, and the impossibly brilliant and esoteric saxophonist/composer Anthony Braxton.

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    Thanks, I will look more into Wayne Shorter and Anthony Braxton.

    I can enjoy jazz genius much more than hiphop celebrities.

    I met and played with some of the jazz greats in my high school jazz band before I was mature enough to appreciate it.

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  148. @Moses
    Get ready. Hillary is going to run again in 2020. As long as she's drawing breath, she's running.

    She's kryptonite now. A gift that keeps on giving.

    Get ready. Hillary is going to run again in 2020. As long as she’s drawing breath, she’s running.

    She may well run, but she won’t be the nominee.

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  149. @istevefan
    I was going to write something,but when I saw this tweet I knew I could not express my sentiments about this post any better:

    Incredible to me that someone who was handed a Senate seat and then for no reason at all made secstate and then had the path to a nomination bulldozed for her and then got the exact opponent she pushed for...still talks like this. Gross. pic.twitter.com/Zy27DP2SJs— Seth Mandel (@SethAMandel) April 20, 2018
     

    I was going to write something,but when I saw this tweet I knew I could not express my sentiments about this post any better:

    Incredible to me that someone who was handed a Senate seat and then for no reason at all made secstate and then had the path to a nomination bulldozed for her and then got the exact opponent she pushed for…still talks like this. Gross. pic.twitter.com/Zy27DP2SJs— Seth Mandel (@SethAMandel) April 20, 2018

    Entertaining tweet. Slugfest in the comments, though. Hell hath no fury like a highly indignant prog!

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  150. @indocon
    The sad thing is that the one accomplishment Trump can claim, the tax cuts, exclusively benefit all those people who were laughing at the deplorables in Hamptons, Beverly Hills, Silicon Valley, Manhattan. All deplorables have gotten out of Trump is hot rhetoric.

    Oh boy, I see ShareBlue learned nothing from the election with this new wave of “argument by assertion” blackpill bots.

    Yeah tell me how taking out the mortgage tax deduction helped the blue states. All ears.

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  151. @Ripple Earthdevil
    OT: Elmwood Café closed, as 2015 racism charge gets new life with Starbucks arrest

    http://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/04/20/elmwood-cafe-closed-as-2015-racism-charge-gets-new-life-with-starbucks-arrest

    And

    After closure, Elmwood Café owner says worker co-op, nonprofit could take over

    http://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/04/20/after-closure-elmwood-cafe-owner-says-worker-co-op-nonprofit-could-take-over

    This is my neighborhood and this sudden closure came out of left field and is a big shock around here. And on 4/20 no less. If you look at the comments you'll see that some of Berkeley's fine liberals are pretty pissed off at the loss of a busy neighborhood spot and feel this is a case of racial grievance politics going too far.

    BTW this is a few blocks up the hill from where Pablo "They" Gomez committed murder.

    Is Dream Fluff donuts still going strong?

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    Is Dream Fluff donuts still going strong?
     
    It is indeed. It will outlast everything in the Elmwood.
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  152. There’s actually a simple answer for Bill’s conspiracy talking: he’s just bullshitting. Does anyone really think he believes that? I also wouldn’t put him above trolling his coctail circle here.

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  153. @Buffalo Joe
    Mo, I think that Hillary drained her well of donations last time around and I don't think the DNC is in her hip pocket anymore. Bernie will run again and the far left will shred themselves trying to decide if Corey Booker, Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris should get the nod.

    It’s interesting to watch the Democrats trying to develop their challenger for 2020. So far the leading prospects are the three you mentioned, who are almost guaranteed to lose to Trump, and Biden who is too pale and male to win the nomination. I wonder if this is because the present co-chairs of the DNC are a pair of idiots? A few cycles back Chuck Schumer, who is actually bright, won the Senate back for the Democrats by holding his nose and putting up centric candidates for Senate seats, who may not be ideologically pure enough, but once in office would vote as directed to by the party commissars.
    Perhaps right now, the faithful aren’t concerned about the competitiveness of their next Presidential candidate because they figure they are going to sink Trump before the election and anyone they nominate will just waltz in. Having three hard Leftists; a closeted dim-bulb black gay, an open gay, and an angry dim-bulb mystery meat, as the front-runners doesn’t presently alarm anyone. If Trump survives maybe the party will have to get serious, Schumer will take the lead, and they will pick an attractive, mildly left-center candidate like Kirsten Gillibrand who could most likely beat Trump.

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    Alf, I agree with almost all of what you wrote but Kirsten Gillibrand, Schumer's sock pocket, isn't a viable national candidate. She is obviously a woman, but I think the left wants a candidate that checks at least two or more boxes, i.e., minority woman. Kamala Harris, for instance, can check woman, minority and with some fudging, #MeToo victimhood.
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  154. @Clifford Brown
    Revealing discussion by various Clinton and Trump campaign advisors, including Jennifer Palmieri, Robby Mook, Kellyanne Conway and Corey Lewandowski at Harvard.

    https://soundcloud.com/harvardiop/roundtable-discussion-the-general-election

    At 1:40:20 Jennifer Palmieri says that Clinton's "Basket of Deplorables" speech was the highpoint of her campaign. Quite revealing. Dogma over strategy is exactly why Clinton lost. Palmieri said that she would rather lose an election the way Clinton did, than win the way Trump did. Kellyanne Conway provides an excellent refutation.

    Good recap from one commentator from Soundcloud.
    "A big shouting match goes from around 56:30-58:30. Also they argue about the idea of the Russian thing being real or not between 1:33:26-1:34:00. Start at 1:35:40-1:36:05 for a joke. Start at 1:36:05 to hear Conway talk about why Steve Bannon was hired. Things get heated from 1:43:35-1:44:30 and “you guys are bitter” is said. From 1:45:50-1:46:30 things get heated again. Beginning at 1:50:00 they begin talking about what happened in the last 10 days of the campaigns."

    My understnding is that Bill warned them about ignoring white working-class voters. But Hillary rejected that idea in favor of Robby Mook’s . Good move, HC. Afterall, what would Bill know about winning national elections? Maybe Steve can weigh in but i would bet that Bill has 10-15 IQ points on Hillary or Obama. Of course, Hillary’s real problem is a deep dislike for the white working class. And the thought of trying to appeal to them, especially the men, completely repulsive to her.

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    BC is hovering around 100, and not an inkling higher. HC and BO both around 95, period.

    They are, the lot of them actually quite stupid, and lacking any wisdom to speak of.

    These individuals are nowhere near the intellectual niveau afforded them by the media and PTB.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

    , @Clifford Brown
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/strong-woman-and-her-gay-minion-destroy-mansplaining-stale-pale-male/#comments

    Days before the election, Bill Clinton was allegedly so frustrated with Hillary Clinton's and Robert Mook's ignoring of White Working Class Democrats that he threw his cellphone from the upper floors of his Presidential Library in Little Rock, Arkansas. No way of knowing if this story is apocryphal or not.

    Goes without saying that Hillary wanted to do it "her way" out of Bill's shadow. Mook's algorithm and Hillary dogmatic hubris lead her campaign astray.

    Bill Clinton was not only extremely intelligent, but in his prime, in-person, Bill Clinton, had an almost mutant-like sense of charisma and empathy. In contrast, Hillary's charisma was a negative with anyone that was not on the high-roller donor list.

    Clinton and Carville were also ruthless Southern Boys from back when Democrats still won Down South. Even Bill Clinton's intro video at the 2016 DNC is like a portal to an alternative Democratic Party.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX9T-X4eIVQ
    , @gcochran
    Hillary's IQ was ≥ 140 when she was young, but she's never been right about anything.
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  155. @Anon
    I have always thought Hillary Clinton is a masochist. She shares that trait with Nixon. Nixon wrote a book about his Six Crises, but they were all entirely of his own making, and he could have stayed out of trouble if he wanted it.

    Clinton has the exact same trait. She has gotten into an incredible amount of messes entirely of her own making, and and she has never been able to stay out of trouble for any particular length of time.

    For a masochist, being in trouble is a psychological necessity. They seek it deliberately. I'm glad she didn't become president, because she's probably get us nuked.

    I think it started with her father, who browbeat her thoroughly when she was young, and she soon began to associate parental love--and then love in general--with being pushed around. That's why she started out as a Goldwater girl, which is lunacy if you're a feminist. Then in the late 60s, she went to the other extreme, when the hippies were beginning to wear out their welcome. If you wanted to become unpopular with the majority at that particular time, being a hardcore left-wing hippie was the way to do it. That's why Nixon got elected. The majority were scared by all the crazy left-wingers.

    Then she married a guy whom she had to know was a womanizer. Bill Clinton chased every woman in sight, and she has stuck by him despite his infidelities, which is classic masochism. She then invested in cattle futures, which is insanely risky and could have destroyed the Clintons' finances entirely, and she ended up having to be rescued by people who wanted to do the Clintons a favor.

    She ran against Obama, and got beaten like a donkey by him, and what did she do? She went to work for him. Classic masochism. She wanted more suffering. She knew perfectly well when it came to a lightweight like Obama, she would take the blame for his mistakes. She failed to show due diligence in a country that was collapsing and undergoing utter chaos, namely Libya, and got into trouble for that, even though she could have avoided it by using a little common sense. Of course you have to protect your Embassy when a country is falling apart. Any idiot knows that.

    Then she blithely put all her classified emails on an unprotected server. Any rational person could guess she would be spied on. She stuffed her pockets via the Clinton Foundation with as much loot as she could, thoroughly disgracing herself in the eyes of anyone concerned with financial malfeasance. This is why Bernie Sanders made such inroads among Democrats. Any politician with any common sense knows you get rich after you're out of office, not before. Doing so beforehand makes you look like a greedy hog on the take and ruins your reputation and your chance to get elected.

    Even now, she's doing the rounds complaining and carrying on in such a sour old bag manner that she has spoiled her reputation even among Democrats, and they're so sick of her they will never pick her to run in 2020. Clinton is complaining longer and more relentlessly than any other loser in any other presidential election that we've ever had. This is Clinton deliberately choosing to sabotage herself again.

    All the above are not examples of stupidity. Hillary Clinton is not stupid. She's doing things like this deliberately to make trouble for herself because she gets a psychological kick out of being in trouble.

    Everything you write fits except for the cattle futures, which was a bribe/payoff of some sort. The commodities dealer was crooked, and simply assigned her the winning trades and some other client the losing trades. He was later convicted of exactly that (though not in her case). That’s why she made a big score just once and never did commodities trading again.

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    Right. It's called front running. And it was a bribe.
    , @anonymous
    Mmm....possibly. The comparisons to Nixon are certainly valid (see my earlier post). The cattle futures, however, were clearly a bribe--and the reasons she gave for hitting home runs in cattle futures fooled nobody and were flat-out clumsly and in retrospect were harbingers of things to come. My own take on her is that she is basically amoral and at least as narcissistic as the person to whom she lost, possibly even more. As a politician she was a zero who alienated fully half the electorate with her barely concealed contempt for them.
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  156. @Almost Missouri
    Interesting observation.

    Another thing I still find strange is that on what was supposed to be the biggest night of her life (and of all Feminism), a night for which all candidates and all their staff, as far as I can ever remember, have always stayed awake, Hillary was apparently already in bed--not just napping on the couch, but deeply abed such that her minions feared to wake her.

    Is her physical infirmity so profound? Or is it her contempt for those who work for her? Or both?

    Alcohol can do that.

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  157. @Bleuteaux
    Completely OT:

    I saw the movie "300" this week for the first time, based on the repeated references to the movie here in the comments section. I cannot believe this movie somehow got made. Wow. Is this the most subversive Hollywood movie every made? Simply incredible.

    I knew some Persians who were super angry about that movie. Their primary complaint was that the Persian emperor Xerxes looked black.

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  158. @It's All Ball Bearings
    As a Christian I shouldn't find satisfaction in another's demise, but Hillary is such an evil bitch that I was so ecstatic at 3 a.m. Nov 9 and wanted to see that demon give a concession speech. She let me down. I watch replays of TYT or Maddow election night coverage to get that satisfaction. I'm not the only one judging by the # of views. She is truly hated, and now more and more by Dems as well.

    The day after Trump won I spent a few hours posting Pepes on left wing and MSM sites.

    Such optimism I had then.

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  159. … the old buzzard is looking 5 years younger this week …

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  160. Completely off topic. I just watched this sad video of protestors harrassing DA employees in Sacremento (Justice for Stephon!).

    There’s a young dread-locked thug preventing a woman from leaving the employee parking lot and true to form, the cops nearby let it happen, again and again. She’s obviously afraid since she tries to squeez between two parked cars to get away, doesn’t.

    James Fields, anyone?

    At about the three minute mark, a woman filming the mayhem from inside the DA’s office building says, “What are we supposed to do?”

    Another woman says, “We’re supposed to stay inside.”

    The first woman says, “No, I mean WE as a collective.”

    http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article209445049.html

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  161. @Anon
    I have always thought Hillary Clinton is a masochist. She shares that trait with Nixon. Nixon wrote a book about his Six Crises, but they were all entirely of his own making, and he could have stayed out of trouble if he wanted it.

    Clinton has the exact same trait. She has gotten into an incredible amount of messes entirely of her own making, and and she has never been able to stay out of trouble for any particular length of time.

    For a masochist, being in trouble is a psychological necessity. They seek it deliberately. I'm glad she didn't become president, because she's probably get us nuked.

    I think it started with her father, who browbeat her thoroughly when she was young, and she soon began to associate parental love--and then love in general--with being pushed around. That's why she started out as a Goldwater girl, which is lunacy if you're a feminist. Then in the late 60s, she went to the other extreme, when the hippies were beginning to wear out their welcome. If you wanted to become unpopular with the majority at that particular time, being a hardcore left-wing hippie was the way to do it. That's why Nixon got elected. The majority were scared by all the crazy left-wingers.

    Then she married a guy whom she had to know was a womanizer. Bill Clinton chased every woman in sight, and she has stuck by him despite his infidelities, which is classic masochism. She then invested in cattle futures, which is insanely risky and could have destroyed the Clintons' finances entirely, and she ended up having to be rescued by people who wanted to do the Clintons a favor.

    She ran against Obama, and got beaten like a donkey by him, and what did she do? She went to work for him. Classic masochism. She wanted more suffering. She knew perfectly well when it came to a lightweight like Obama, she would take the blame for his mistakes. She failed to show due diligence in a country that was collapsing and undergoing utter chaos, namely Libya, and got into trouble for that, even though she could have avoided it by using a little common sense. Of course you have to protect your Embassy when a country is falling apart. Any idiot knows that.

    Then she blithely put all her classified emails on an unprotected server. Any rational person could guess she would be spied on. She stuffed her pockets via the Clinton Foundation with as much loot as she could, thoroughly disgracing herself in the eyes of anyone concerned with financial malfeasance. This is why Bernie Sanders made such inroads among Democrats. Any politician with any common sense knows you get rich after you're out of office, not before. Doing so beforehand makes you look like a greedy hog on the take and ruins your reputation and your chance to get elected.

    Even now, she's doing the rounds complaining and carrying on in such a sour old bag manner that she has spoiled her reputation even among Democrats, and they're so sick of her they will never pick her to run in 2020. Clinton is complaining longer and more relentlessly than any other loser in any other presidential election that we've ever had. This is Clinton deliberately choosing to sabotage herself again.

    All the above are not examples of stupidity. Hillary Clinton is not stupid. She's doing things like this deliberately to make trouble for herself because she gets a psychological kick out of being in trouble.

    Its not because of masochism, it’s hubris. She constantly overestimates her own abilities and intelligence. Bill was a necessary evil to make her a front runner presidential candidate, so was serving as Obama’s SofS.

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  162. @utu
    Sara and Clare Bronfman, daughters of Edgar Bronfman Sr. (Seagram, former World Jewish Congress president) allegedly put $150 millions of their money in to this cult.

    The Heiresses and the Cult
    https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010/11/bronfman-201011

    Sara and Clare Bronfman, daughters of Edgar Bronfman Sr. (Seagram, former World Jewish Congress president) allegedly put $150 millions of their money in to this cult.

    Oh – right – you’re talking about NXIVM. At first I thought you were referring to the Hillary for President campaign.

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  163. @indocon
    The sad thing is that the one accomplishment Trump can claim, the tax cuts, exclusively benefit all those people who were laughing at the deplorables in Hamptons, Beverly Hills, Silicon Valley, Manhattan. All deplorables have gotten out of Trump is hot rhetoric.

    Not really. Parts of it penalizes high income individuals in high tax states (eg. California, NY, Illinois…).

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  164. @J.Ross
    In conspiracy that turned out to be true news, today there were follow-on arrests for the surgically branded Hollywood starlet slaves of NXIVM (pronounced "Nexium," which I'm pretty sure is a brand name prescription medication), after the cult leader was arrested earlier in Mexico. They have ties to Spirit Cooking performance artist Marina Abramovic and to a son of a former president of Mexico, and claim to have hosted thousands at their seminars. Like Scientology or the Gulen "cult," they were less of a religion and more of a pseudo-psychological self-actualization scam.
    But this wasn't so fat fetched. Hollywood women love cults and will often join them if their careers go sideways. Much easier to believe than somebody letting Hillary be Senator and the worst secretary of state in the entire history of the office to include Teapot Dome, but somehow not President.

    Hollywood women love cults and will often join them if their careers go sideways.

    When I read about cults and strange practices like “spirit cooking” amongst the rich and politically connected, I am reminded of the “Affair of the Poisons” at the court of Louis XIV in the late seventeenth century. This centered around a fortune-teller called La Voisin, who catered to the idle women of the court, and in the course of her business found out all about their worries and problems. To deal with these she could provide poisons to dispose of husbands and fathers whose longevity had proven inconvenient to her clients, procure abortions, and dispose of unwanted babies. The latter were used in black masses, most famously one celebrated over the naked body of Mme de Montespan, one of the king’s mistresses, who feared that her career was about to “go sideways.” In these ceremonies La Voisin partnered with a crooked priest, the abbé Guibourg:

    “A long black velvet pall was spread over the altar, and upon this the royal mistress laid herself in a state of perfect nudity. Six black candles were lit, the celebrant robed himself in a chasuble embroidered with esoteric characters wrought in silver, the gold paten and chalice were placed upon the naked belly of the living altar [...] All was silent save for the low monotonous murmur of the blasphemous liturgy [...] An assistant crept forward bearing an infant in her arms. The child was held over the altar, a sharp gash across the neck, a stifled cry, and warm drops fell into the chalice and streamed upon the white figure beneath. The corpse was handed to la Voisin, who flung it callously into an oven fashioned for that purpose which glowed white-hot in its fierceness.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Étienne_Guibourg

    The remains of some 2500 infants were found buried on La Voisin’s premises. According to some accounts, body parts of the sacrificed or aborted children were occasionally sold for various occult uses.

    Hollywood has made movies glorifying abortion, e.g., “The Cider House Rules” or “Vera Drake.” Perhaps the next will be one portraying La Voisin as a protomartyr of feminism, a veritable precursor of Planned Parenthood!

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    i have never heard of this.

    Very Lovecraftian indeed.
    , @Millennial
    Incredible story. Not at all surprising, though, that the Pizzagate of the 17th century involved Chevaliers. Montespan wasn't simply a royal mistress - like the later Pompadour, she had real influence at court.

    Funny thing is, some people still can't comprehend why, only a few years after l'affaire, certain Englishmen were less than thrilled at the prospect of a Stuart-run Versailles-on-Thames, or why English colonists in the midst of a war with France (and her "tawny savage" proxies) would take the concept of witchcraft seriously.
    , @J.Ross
    Well, have you seen Witch (promoted idiotically as Vvitch), which is, among other things, the purest example of the new sociopathic school of propaganda? People tolerate the shock in this school because they read-in disapproval of things it clearly approves. We start with a white Christian nuclear family in rural colonial New England. The normie viewer notes establishing details; the pinkhair views these exact same details as a subtler form of the provocations or gratuitous a-hole behavior in the first act of an action or horror film. To this we grant that witchcraft as understood then was totally real, justified in an amoral naturalistic sense (appropriately enough, Satanic morality), and victorious. It's like if a Satanic feminist used Death Wish, Commando or Payback as a template, made the colonists the gangsters, and made the hero a magic-using, devil-compacting witch. It mocks the victims as it mocks their beliefs -- for your sexism, you deserve to meet an real witch. Like Knock Knock, Get Out, or the Purge franchise, this is a Puritanically moralistic film pretending to be neutral.
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  165. @Arclight
    Hilary is such a gift - her off-the-charts level of hubris and total inability to take any responsibility for the fact that her unpopularity is almost entirely a product of her own behavior over three decades in the national spotlight reminds even Democrats of what a massive mistake it is to just assume the arc of history will deliver the outcome you desire.

    That said, I doubt the GOP and Trump will get to fight on such favorable terrain in 2020.

    Nah, 2020 will be a blowout in favor of Trump barring any madness in the next two years.

    I know a lot of people get the vapors here over Kamela Harris, but imagine all the negatives of Hillary magnified through black megalomania and sans the “good times” memories of a Bill Clinton to attach yourself to.

    Yeah. That’s the leading contender for 2020. Her deploreables moment will be telling a hard scrabble white farmer in his 60s that he needs to “check his privilege”.

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    I don't know - I feel we are overdue for a recession and that always gets blamed on the incumbent, plus I do think the Dems will nominate Harris or someone else who is not white to boost black turnout, which could be decisive in PA, MI, and WI. Now it's possible some white voters who pulled the lever for Hilary vote for Trump in 2020 but I am not very optimistic about that absent some more BLM-inspired riots and property damage in a major city or two. On the other hand, I did read something the other day about how some elements in the Democratic party are starting to talk about pushing through reparations if they take over Congress and the presidency, and broadcasting that early and often could be enough to push more white voters away from the Dems in a national election.
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  166. @Almost Missouri
    Interesting observation.

    Another thing I still find strange is that on what was supposed to be the biggest night of her life (and of all Feminism), a night for which all candidates and all their staff, as far as I can ever remember, have always stayed awake, Hillary was apparently already in bed--not just napping on the couch, but deeply abed such that her minions feared to wake her.

    Is her physical infirmity so profound? Or is it her contempt for those who work for her? Or both?

    ………………Hillary was apparently already in bed–not just napping on the couch, but deeply abed such that her minions feared to wake her.

    Is her physical infirmity so profound? Or is it her contempt for those who work for her? Or both?

    Sort of like how Hitler’s aides were afraid to wake him on D-Day.

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  167. @Ed
    One of the major blind spot of the Clinton machine was ignoring flyover country. They wanted to appeal to people that read the NYT and mass media culture. That’s why they had these ridiculous concerts with JayZ and LeBron James. They also did it to get out the black vote.

    Anyway the Trump people astutely bought ad time in small markets in key states. When Trump team switched out of buying ads in cities like Miami and instead bought in smaller markets, the media went beserk on Twitter. It was proof to them that Trump was running out of money and campaign was on life support. The concept of anyone bothering to reach people outside of large media markets was completely foreign.

    Also Trump’s team astutely made a deal with Sinclair broadcasting which is a major news provider in many local markets. They also bought ads in local papers and when he appeared at a rally in a town it of course dominated the news there. An astute journalist mentioned during the campaign that while the national media’s tone towards Trump was decidedly negative it was less so in local press.

    One of the major blind spot of the Clinton machine was ignoring flyover country. They wanted to appeal to people that read the NYT and mass media culture. That’s why they had these ridiculous concerts with JayZ and LeBron James. They also did it to get out the black vote.

    Even when appealing to the black vote, they seemed tone deaf. Remember that big last minute concert/rally in Philadelphia? With Bruce Springsteen headlining. Is The Boss really that popular with black people?

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  168. @El Dato
    Someone please edit Jimbo's Stash of Postmodern Knollij. There is nothing of relevance.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Them

    Relevance is fleeting, direct statements are timeless.

    “And that’s all I have to say about that”–F. Gump

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  169. @theMann
    The general problem with high level Democrats is that they live in such a tightly sealed bubble that they actually don't realize how much ordinary Americans despise them, and this has been the case for decades. Pauline Kael's notorious observation "I don't know a single person who voted for Richard Nixon" is now almost fifty years old, and things have only gotten worse.


    One of the major problems for Democrats is that the Press, Academia, and Hollywood have become so obsequious in shilling for Democratic candidates that they get no quality information about issues, campaigns, opponents, really much of anything but self serving fantasies about how wonderful Democrats are, and how much everyone loves them. (Republicans are actually improved by Press hostility - weak candidates are weeded out, strong candidates become even stronger.) So when Democrats lose, they actually cannot believe it. Since the voters looooove them, and they are told this every day, there has to be SOME explanation other than voter rejection for their losses.


    The Democrats, apparently through chicanery, nominated a Candidate who has worked paying jobs for maybe ten years of her life, but was worth a quarter of a billion; had more unflattering nicknames than every other Presidential Candidate in US history combined; and was running on a ticket for a Party that had spent eight years nuking coal country while deliberately pursuing racial divisiveness on every level; but CLEARLY she lost because she was cheated.

    Wow.

    It all boils down to one single word, one single expression which the democrats wield with relentless fervor and zeal, and which, this one single word, has handed them every unearned victory since FDR, and just what is this one specific word, okay I won’t torture you any longer, this word is :

    FAIR

    They have monopolized and rode this expression 24/7 for the last eighty years, in spite of the blatent BS, lies, distortion, and hypocracy behind their employment of this expression.

    In every school, university and religious entity, they have been propagandizing the hapless, clueless public to believe, and accept that they , the democrats are : Fair, and the evil republicans are unfair, and this sums it all up, of course also taking into consideration the myriads of offshoots from this one specific word.

    Authenticjazzaman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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  170. @Malcolm X-Lax
    My understnding is that Bill warned them about ignoring white working-class voters. But Hillary rejected that idea in favor of Robby Mook’s . Good move, HC. Afterall, what would Bill know about winning national elections? Maybe Steve can weigh in but i would bet that Bill has 10-15 IQ points on Hillary or Obama. Of course, Hillary’s real problem is a deep dislike for the white working class. And the thought of trying to appeal to them, especially the men, completely repulsive to her.

    BC is hovering around 100, and not an inkling higher. HC and BO both around 95, period.

    They are, the lot of them actually quite stupid, and lacking any wisdom to speak of.

    These individuals are nowhere near the intellectual niveau afforded them by the media and PTB.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

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  171. @enemy of earth
    I think all the ruminating and analysis of the last presidential election is simply rationalization by:

    1. The MSM - it pains them to admit they got it wrong since they kept assuring everyone there was no way Trump could beat Hillary.

    2. The Cult of Hillary - these sorely disappointed folks cannot believe that destiny and history were stymied by the FBI, Russia, Voter ID laws, etc. They are also unable to admit that DJT won simply because he was not HRC. Truth be told, they are both loathsome beyond belief.

    3. The Political Class - Trump's election is anathema to them because he was an outsider. A man who never held any public office should not be elected president. That's unthinkable!!

    I do not vote because I do not wish to not give consent to the organized gang of criminals who populate the government at all levels. The last year has been particularly instructive in showing who really runs the country.

    I do not vote because I do not wish to not give consent to the organized gang of criminals who populate the government at all levels.

    May I steal that for a T-shirt slogan?

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    Go ahead. That's basically what I wrote to our county's Board of Elections a few years ago when I asked them to remove my name from the list of registered voters.
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  172. @Jack Hanson
    Nah, 2020 will be a blowout in favor of Trump barring any madness in the next two years.

    I know a lot of people get the vapors here over Kamela Harris, but imagine all the negatives of Hillary magnified through black megalomania and sans the "good times" memories of a Bill Clinton to attach yourself to.

    Yeah. That's the leading contender for 2020. Her deploreables moment will be telling a hard scrabble white farmer in his 60s that he needs to "check his privilege".

    I don’t know – I feel we are overdue for a recession and that always gets blamed on the incumbent, plus I do think the Dems will nominate Harris or someone else who is not white to boost black turnout, which could be decisive in PA, MI, and WI. Now it’s possible some white voters who pulled the lever for Hilary vote for Trump in 2020 but I am not very optimistic about that absent some more BLM-inspired riots and property damage in a major city or two. On the other hand, I did read something the other day about how some elements in the Democratic party are starting to talk about pushing through reparations if they take over Congress and the presidency, and broadcasting that early and often could be enough to push more white voters away from the Dems in a national election.

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    Blacks running up the vote in Philly and Chicago (I.e. places the R was never gonna win anyway) is an overrated fear. It was white rust belt voters who saw another four years of W in McCain and voted for Obama, and then stayed home in the face of Romney that got Obama through both times.

    Whites, hell, even bugmen, are going to look at Kamela Harris and Cory Booker and see angry black woman and a gay underqualified mulatto. We already virtue signalled one of the former into power and that worked out poorly.

    Harris is the type of head snapping black woman people hate to deal with (even other blacks!). The Dem strategy for the presidency seems to be to run in pawns for queens and then act shocked when checkmate ends the game.

    As far as a recession I think fears of that are overblown. Trump already seems to be getting in front of the 8ball regarding the gas price creep.
    , @Anon
    If the DNC succeeds in defenestrating all the white guys who run everything, I predict the coup plotters will run amok with even more crazy left-wing nonsense that turns off voters.
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  173. @SunBakedSuburb
    Don't be too hard on the old gal; she suffers from Kuru.

    Don’t be too hard on the old gal; she suffers from Kuru.

    Hillary! as cannibal; I like it!
    (And kuru is transmitted by eating infected brains, so…she’s a zombie too!)

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  174. @Crawfurdmuir

    Hollywood women love cults and will often join them if their careers go sideways.
     
    When I read about cults and strange practices like "spirit cooking" amongst the rich and politically connected, I am reminded of the "Affair of the Poisons" at the court of Louis XIV in the late seventeenth century. This centered around a fortune-teller called La Voisin, who catered to the idle women of the court, and in the course of her business found out all about their worries and problems. To deal with these she could provide poisons to dispose of husbands and fathers whose longevity had proven inconvenient to her clients, procure abortions, and dispose of unwanted babies. The latter were used in black masses, most famously one celebrated over the naked body of Mme de Montespan, one of the king's mistresses, who feared that her career was about to "go sideways." In these ceremonies La Voisin partnered with a crooked priest, the abbé Guibourg:

    "A long black velvet pall was spread over the altar, and upon this the royal mistress laid herself in a state of perfect nudity. Six black candles were lit, the celebrant robed himself in a chasuble embroidered with esoteric characters wrought in silver, the gold paten and chalice were placed upon the naked belly of the living altar [...] All was silent save for the low monotonous murmur of the blasphemous liturgy [...] An assistant crept forward bearing an infant in her arms. The child was held over the altar, a sharp gash across the neck, a stifled cry, and warm drops fell into the chalice and streamed upon the white figure beneath. The corpse was handed to la Voisin, who flung it callously into an oven fashioned for that purpose which glowed white-hot in its fierceness."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Étienne_Guibourg

    The remains of some 2500 infants were found buried on La Voisin's premises. According to some accounts, body parts of the sacrificed or aborted children were occasionally sold for various occult uses.

    Hollywood has made movies glorifying abortion, e.g., "The Cider House Rules" or "Vera Drake." Perhaps the next will be one portraying La Voisin as a protomartyr of feminism, a veritable precursor of Planned Parenthood!

    i have never heard of this.

    Very Lovecraftian indeed.

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  175. @Ripple Earthdevil
    Au contraire, black genius is Duke Ellington, John Coltrane, Wayne Shorter, and the impossibly brilliant and esoteric saxophonist/composer Anthony Braxton.

    Thanks, I will look more into Wayne Shorter and Anthony Braxton.

    I can enjoy jazz genius much more than hiphop celebrities.

    I met and played with some of the jazz greats in my high school jazz band before I was mature enough to appreciate it.

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    Wayne shorter yeah, Braxton, no thanks.

    "Hip Hop" is garbage and has nothing in common with real music.

    "I met and played with some of the Jazz greats"

    And I shared an apartment for years with a trapsman, who had in fact played with Coltrane, Chet Baker, Jimmy Woode, and many other of the "legends".

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.

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  176. @Arclight
    I don't know - I feel we are overdue for a recession and that always gets blamed on the incumbent, plus I do think the Dems will nominate Harris or someone else who is not white to boost black turnout, which could be decisive in PA, MI, and WI. Now it's possible some white voters who pulled the lever for Hilary vote for Trump in 2020 but I am not very optimistic about that absent some more BLM-inspired riots and property damage in a major city or two. On the other hand, I did read something the other day about how some elements in the Democratic party are starting to talk about pushing through reparations if they take over Congress and the presidency, and broadcasting that early and often could be enough to push more white voters away from the Dems in a national election.

    Blacks running up the vote in Philly and Chicago (I.e. places the R was never gonna win anyway) is an overrated fear. It was white rust belt voters who saw another four years of W in McCain and voted for Obama, and then stayed home in the face of Romney that got Obama through both times.

    Whites, hell, even bugmen, are going to look at Kamela Harris and Cory Booker and see angry black woman and a gay underqualified mulatto. We already virtue signalled one of the former into power and that worked out poorly.

    Harris is the type of head snapping black woman people hate to deal with (even other blacks!). The Dem strategy for the presidency seems to be to run in pawns for queens and then act shocked when checkmate ends the game.

    As far as a recession I think fears of that are overblown. Trump already seems to be getting in front of the 8ball regarding the gas price creep.

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  177. @Malcolm X-Lax
    My understnding is that Bill warned them about ignoring white working-class voters. But Hillary rejected that idea in favor of Robby Mook’s . Good move, HC. Afterall, what would Bill know about winning national elections? Maybe Steve can weigh in but i would bet that Bill has 10-15 IQ points on Hillary or Obama. Of course, Hillary’s real problem is a deep dislike for the white working class. And the thought of trying to appeal to them, especially the men, completely repulsive to her.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/strong-woman-and-her-gay-minion-destroy-mansplaining-stale-pale-male/#comments

    Days before the election, Bill Clinton was allegedly so frustrated with Hillary Clinton’s and Robert Mook’s ignoring of White Working Class Democrats that he threw his cellphone from the upper floors of his Presidential Library in Little Rock, Arkansas. No way of knowing if this story is apocryphal or not.

    Goes without saying that Hillary wanted to do it “her way” out of Bill’s shadow. Mook’s algorithm and Hillary dogmatic hubris lead her campaign astray.

    Bill Clinton was not only extremely intelligent, but in his prime, in-person, Bill Clinton, had an almost mutant-like sense of charisma and empathy. In contrast, Hillary’s charisma was a negative with anyone that was not on the high-roller donor list.

    Clinton and Carville were also ruthless Southern Boys from back when Democrats still won Down South. Even Bill Clinton’s intro video at the 2016 DNC is like a portal to an alternative Democratic Party.

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    As it so happens, I met and conversed with HRC back in 1992 when she came to my Nor Cal college campaigning for Bill. I and 3 or 4 other students spent about 5 minutes talking with her. She was cold and unengaged, like she would have rather been somewhere else. Not that i blame her but she was no natural politician like Bill was.
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  178. Trump will lose if he doesn’t start getting his head out of his ass and developing an actual strategy and vision. As things stand if Biden is the nominee he’ll get clobbered.

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    Both Biden and Trump will be too old.
    , @Jack Hanson
    Would you like to bet money on that lmfao.
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  179. @Marty
    Is Dream Fluff donuts still going strong?

    Is Dream Fluff donuts still going strong?

    It is indeed. It will outlast everything in the Elmwood.

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  180. @Anonym
    Oh C'OyVeynus, lovin' the concern troll.

    “Oh C’OyVeynus, lovin’ the concern troll.”

    Exactly what I expect a Coalition of the Fringe adherent to say. It’s not about “concern”, it’s about being honest with oneself and admitting that this group in particular seeks information to confirm their beliefs. Anything else that threatens the narrative is discounted.

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  181. @Anon
    And have you not NOTICED your own biases, Corvinus? Do you really think your pretending to be objective and even-handed in your analysis is believed by anyone here?

    Post again when Trump is in handcuffs for one of the credible allegations you so fervently want to believe is true. Yeah, a real objective and even-handed observer you are!

    In the future, please NOTICE what a supercilious hypocritical douchebag you have become. And cuck. Yeah, that's right, you are a cuck too.

    “And have you not NOTICED your own biases, Corvinus?”

    More than you will ever know or care to admit.

    “Do you really think your pretending to be objective and even-handed in your analysis is believed by anyone here?”

    I am observably much more objective and even-handed compared to you and others here.

    “Post again when Trump is in handcuffs for one of the credible allegations you so fervently want to believe is true. Yeah, a real objective and even-handed observer you are!”

    NOTICE that I said allegations. NOTICE that there is indeed evidence and sources that make it certainly appear that the Trump team engaged in a boatload of illegal activity. Why not actually immerse yourself into the narrative rather than close your eyes and put your hands over your ears and like a little girl say “No, it’s not true, I’m not listening, it’s all a lie”. But feel free to be an ostrich with your head in the sand.

    “In the future, please NOTICE what a supercilious hypocritical douchebag you have become. And cuck. Yeah, that’s right, you are a cuck too.”

    Again, the word “cuck” is overused and observably means next to nothing. It has lost its cache.

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    I am observably much more objective and even-handed compared to you and others here.
     
    Your being here belies your (stupid) message of moderation. Moderates aren't interested in fringe sites.

    You're here to do the bidding of leftism under the (laughable) aegis of moderation.
    , @Anon
    You’re always demanding that people provide sources and links to everything they write.

    So please come up with some actual illegal activities Trump committed

    Please don’t just say obstruction of justice. Obstruction of justice is interfering with an investigation of a crime. For “justice” to be obstructed , an actual crime must be committed and an investigation must begin by the proper authorities.

    So come up with an actual crime and the statutes that define the crime.

    Meeting with Russians is not collusion with anything. Trump or his subordinates would have to do something illegal while meeting with the Russians.

    So find the crime. Hildabeast the media academia big business and the demon ocrats have been trying since November 2016 and haven’t come with a thing.

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  182. @Crawfurdmuir

    Hollywood women love cults and will often join them if their careers go sideways.
     
    When I read about cults and strange practices like "spirit cooking" amongst the rich and politically connected, I am reminded of the "Affair of the Poisons" at the court of Louis XIV in the late seventeenth century. This centered around a fortune-teller called La Voisin, who catered to the idle women of the court, and in the course of her business found out all about their worries and problems. To deal with these she could provide poisons to dispose of husbands and fathers whose longevity had proven inconvenient to her clients, procure abortions, and dispose of unwanted babies. The latter were used in black masses, most famously one celebrated over the naked body of Mme de Montespan, one of the king's mistresses, who feared that her career was about to "go sideways." In these ceremonies La Voisin partnered with a crooked priest, the abbé Guibourg:

    "A long black velvet pall was spread over the altar, and upon this the royal mistress laid herself in a state of perfect nudity. Six black candles were lit, the celebrant robed himself in a chasuble embroidered with esoteric characters wrought in silver, the gold paten and chalice were placed upon the naked belly of the living altar [...] All was silent save for the low monotonous murmur of the blasphemous liturgy [...] An assistant crept forward bearing an infant in her arms. The child was held over the altar, a sharp gash across the neck, a stifled cry, and warm drops fell into the chalice and streamed upon the white figure beneath. The corpse was handed to la Voisin, who flung it callously into an oven fashioned for that purpose which glowed white-hot in its fierceness."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Étienne_Guibourg

    The remains of some 2500 infants were found buried on La Voisin's premises. According to some accounts, body parts of the sacrificed or aborted children were occasionally sold for various occult uses.

    Hollywood has made movies glorifying abortion, e.g., "The Cider House Rules" or "Vera Drake." Perhaps the next will be one portraying La Voisin as a protomartyr of feminism, a veritable precursor of Planned Parenthood!

    Incredible story. Not at all surprising, though, that the Pizzagate of the 17th century involved Chevaliers. Montespan wasn’t simply a royal mistress – like the later Pompadour, she had real influence at court.

    Funny thing is, some people still can’t comprehend why, only a few years after l’affaire, certain Englishmen were less than thrilled at the prospect of a Stuart-run Versailles-on-Thames, or why English colonists in the midst of a war with France (and her “tawny savage” proxies) would take the concept of witchcraft seriously.

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    England was led by Catholic kings for many years when both England and France were Catholic. This included the time of the Hundred Year's War. Then "The Reformation" came along.
    , @Anon
    William and Mary were tools of the Jewish bankers of Amsterdam. A year after they were crowned the Jewish bankers formed the Bank Of England and took over the finances of GB and it’s future colonies.

    Are you implying that the mother of James 2 was a witch or poisoner because she was French?

    I fail to see the connection between the Montespan affaire and the take over of GBs finances by the Amsterdam Jews through their front monarchs William and Mary.

    Going by executions and trial records, Scotland and the rest of GB had far more witches than France ever did.

    Sounds as though Voison ran an abortion clinic. Instead of Margaret Sanger being the saint of planned parenthood, they should have joint heavenly patronesses the holy Saints Sanger and Voison.

    At the time of their deaths, many assumed that Edward 4 was poisoned by the Lancasters and Catherine of Aragorn poisoned by Henry 8.
    , @Anon
    The English colonists didn’t get involved in a war with France until 1756 60 years after the witch habgibgs. And it was Britain that dragged the colonialists into it.

    The British had their own tawny savages.

    From the day the first French and British landed in Canada and the north east each had their Indian allies. French and Hurons against the English and Iroquois

    A major reason for our revolution was that the colonials wanted to settle west of the Apppakachiabs. The British had made numerous treaties with the tawny savages west of the Appalachians stipulating that the colonials would remain in their narrow strip east of the Appalachian.

    The colonials decided to get rid of the British and deal with the Indians by themselves.
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  183. anon[205] • Disclaimer says:

    the most subversive movie ever made is “Hail Ceaser” by the Coen brothers, not even subtle in the messaging, I didn’t find the subtlety of 300 nearly as subversive as the explicit theme of “Hail Ceaseer”, deeply devout Catholic and All American cowboy try to keep communists out of Hollywood while dealing with degenerate and corrupt folks that run Hollywood…

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  184. @Harry Baldwin
    ...are there really definable benefits for companies to advertise on Google or use Facebook data?

    Having worked in advertising, I can assure you that we were not at all sure ourselves that there are definable benefits for companies to advertise at all. In some cases, obviously, yes. In many others, probably not.

    My wife has a small mail-order business and has recently given up on advertising in magazines. Their ad departments continue to hound her, of course, but she doesn't see a return and their page rates are too expensive. She now advertises on Facebook and she gets these encouraging reports on how may people looked at her ad, liked it, or shared it. But are these stats even reliable? We know Facebook does a lot of lying. However, she has noticed a small uptick in orders so she'll keep advertising on Facebook, largely because it's quite cheap.

    Last year YouTube and Facebook were caught exaggerrating numbers and had a decline in sales; those energetic reports might be part of a reaction to that.
    There is a whole book’s worth of news about social media that is under-reported by the legacy media, and overshadowed by babbling about Russians. Theresa May just called Maryam (“SyrianGirl”) a bot!

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  185. @Sunbeam
    "After the election, Bill would spread a more absurd Times conspiracy: The publisher had struck a deal with Trump that we’d destroy Hillary on her emails to help him get elected,"

    Does the NY Times really have that kind of influence? What fraction of voters even read this?

    Particularly in the states that were the battlegrounds.

    Really kind of curious as to where things go. If you buy a paper like Bezos did the Post, I'm really not sure he is getting much bang for his buck, other than the fact that people in the Beltway probably know what they wrote about any given day.

    But it's not like controlling the Times or Post is going to light a fire under people's butts in Peoria to impeach Trump - or vote for Hillary.

    Given the full court press the national media outlets have been putting on Trump, if they don't produce a major scalp in either the midterms or 2020 (and probably both), I think a lot of well heeled types are going to ask themselves whether these media outlets are worth it at all.

    And despite the current hoopla, are there really definable benefits for companies to advertise on Google or use Facebook data? You'd think, but my understanding is that results seem to have been very sketchy so far.

    “After the election, Bill would spread a more absurd Times conspiracy: The publisher had struck a deal with Trump that we’d destroy Hillary on her emails to help him get elected,”

    Does the NY Times really have that kind of influence?

    Yes, and then some.

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  186. @El Dato
    OT: Natalie Portman targeted for termination:

    Natalie Portman ‘unworthy of any honor’ says Israeli politician


    An Israeli government minister has called for actress Natalie Portman to be stripped of her Israeli citizenship, after she refused to attend the Genesis Award ceremony, citing “extremely distressing” recent events.

    “From the outset, the idea of granting the Genesis Prize to Natalie Portman was complete craziness,” Member of Knesset (MK) Oren Hazan said, as cited by Arutz Sheva. “She's an actress, but she is unworthy of any honor in the State of Israel."

    He called Portman a Jewish Israeli who “cynically uses her birthplace to advance her career” while expressing pride in the fact that she never served in the Israeli military.

    "I call on Interior Minister Aryeh Deri (Shas) to rescind Portman's Israeli citizenship. She left Israel at age four, and has no real connection to the state," added Hazan, a member of the ruling Likud party.
     
    Revealing that he says "state" not "nation". But maybe these things are the same in Hebrew?

    89 El Dato > he says “state” not “nation”. But maybe these things are the same in Hebrew?

    yes.

    There is the “State of Israel” (“medinat yisrael”) which is different than “the ethnics people of Israel” (“ahm yisrael”) which existed well before the creation of the current Sovereign country.

    I don’t think it’s strange. Poland didn’t exist for any number of years, yet the Polish ethnic people didn’t imagine that they had ceased to exist.

    I happen to like Arafat’s advice that Israel change its regime-indicator to “Hebrew Republic”, because it’s a quite accurate description of the culture here. You can be generic-non-Jewish or even Muslim, and still be rather high up in the, uh, local Deep State – if you can tell off-color jokes to the cops and the troops in Hebrew

    You Americans will find out after you go into exile for the first time

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    How about "The Israelite Hebrew Jewish Talmudic Republic of Israel" ?
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  187. @Whiskey
    Hillary *IS* weird and icky. In related news, the "wholesome" Allison Mack of TV's "Smallville" fame has been arrested for being part of a sex cult that had her branding women on the private parts with the initials of the cult leader while telling them to think of their master. She was lured into the cult by co-star Kristin Kreuk and Richard Branson was allegedly also part of the cult.

    Point being, random celebrities seem weird and icky. Just image how weird and icky Hillary! really is - this is a big part of the revolt of the Deplorables. The internet exposes even the most minor random celebrity as being .. well downright weird.

    By contrast Trump seems a man of normal appetites. Not weird. Not icky.

    Imagine, Hillary as the candidate of Gay Wall Streeters. Babura singing like a Mecha Streisand. A more perfect Hillary! moment cannot be imagined.

    https://artvoice.com/2018/04/18/crimes-secrets-allison-mack-nicki-clyne-top-members-nxivm-sex-slaver-cult/#.WtupsHNOmKo

    This is really good reading….

    You can build you a harem of dumb white women just by spouting eat pray live mumbo jumbo and by being into BDSM type stuff.

    I bet the women who turned him in were mad because he wouldn’t spend enough time w him and we’re just jealous…..

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    Nicki Clyne quite her acting career to become a sex-slaver. She is a slave to Allison Mack to whom she is reportedly married.
     
    Nooooo ... Cally!
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  188. @Corvinus
    "Fox News is also “mainstream” and has far more political influence than the NYT. The New York Times reaches maybe 3M people, the vast majority of whom pick the NYT precisely becauses it reinforces the political views they already hold."

    You don't NOTICE that some people who read the NYT may not be politically minded, or may actually be Republicans who read other parts of the paper for information, sports, etc. And perhaps you also didn't NOTICE that a great deal of those views were watch Fox News are also having their positions hardened as well. It's called confirmation bias.

    And our beloved host neglected to NOTICE--he has been doing that lately--that the use of "cuck" and "race realist" by the Alt Right on white people have a similar impact to that of Shitlery sneering at "deplorables".

    Furthermore, why no direct insight on the investigation of Trump by Mr. Sailer in the viewing audience? That's easy. Mr. Sailer does not want any potential blowback should the dozens of allegations, some of which have substantial and credible evidence behind them, stain his reputation. Cagey on his part to not even NOTICE it.

    Furthermore, why no direct insight on the investigation of Trump by Mr. Sailer in the viewing audience?

    When did Steve start investigating the President?

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  189. @Peter Akuleyev
    They and the rest of the mainstream media were absolutely in the tank for her.

    Fox News is also "mainstream" and has far more political influence than the NYT. The New York Times reaches maybe 3M people, the vast majority of whom pick the NYT precisely becauses it reinforces the political views they already hold. Even if the NYT had convinced every one of its Republican readers to vote for Clinton instead of Trump it would make very little difference since almost all those Republican readers live in blue states.

    The New York Times is the major influence on an enormous number of other media outlets.

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  190. @Murray
    Hillary's conversation with Robby Mook sounds like the kind of thing I used to hear routinely in my long-ago bartending days:

    Mook, with grave trepidation: "Madame Secretary [or Your Satanic Majesty, or whatever they called her], I have bad news..."

    Hillary, slurring: "I knew it. I knew thish would happen to me….’

    Mook, too terrified to speak, fights the urge to recoil as Hillary leans right into his face, reeking of vodka.

    Hillary: "They were never going to let me be preshident."

    The "within a couple of inches of his face" is a dead giveaway for someone who's three sheets to the wind, as Hillary reportedly was on election night.

    Hillary is fascinating if only for the demonstration of the power of leftist personality cults. In reality, she's a boring nonentity, a woman who's botched every single important (and unmerited) role she's been appointed to, and who appears never to have had a single original thought in her life. Yet for tens of millions of people worldwide, she's "the most qualified person ever to seek the presidency", and a heroic martyr to progress, and they just can't get enough of her interminable maunderings on the ever-growing list of "theys" who died her of her rightful crown.

    “Mook, with grave trepidation: “Madame Secretary [or Your Satanic Majesty, or whatever they called her], I have bad news…” Steiner.

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  191. @Malcolm X-Lax
    My understnding is that Bill warned them about ignoring white working-class voters. But Hillary rejected that idea in favor of Robby Mook’s . Good move, HC. Afterall, what would Bill know about winning national elections? Maybe Steve can weigh in but i would bet that Bill has 10-15 IQ points on Hillary or Obama. Of course, Hillary’s real problem is a deep dislike for the white working class. And the thought of trying to appeal to them, especially the men, completely repulsive to her.

    Hillary’s IQ was ≥ 140 when she was young, but she’s never been right about anything.

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  192. @Crawfurdmuir

    Hollywood women love cults and will often join them if their careers go sideways.
     
    When I read about cults and strange practices like "spirit cooking" amongst the rich and politically connected, I am reminded of the "Affair of the Poisons" at the court of Louis XIV in the late seventeenth century. This centered around a fortune-teller called La Voisin, who catered to the idle women of the court, and in the course of her business found out all about their worries and problems. To deal with these she could provide poisons to dispose of husbands and fathers whose longevity had proven inconvenient to her clients, procure abortions, and dispose of unwanted babies. The latter were used in black masses, most famously one celebrated over the naked body of Mme de Montespan, one of the king's mistresses, who feared that her career was about to "go sideways." In these ceremonies La Voisin partnered with a crooked priest, the abbé Guibourg:

    "A long black velvet pall was spread over the altar, and upon this the royal mistress laid herself in a state of perfect nudity. Six black candles were lit, the celebrant robed himself in a chasuble embroidered with esoteric characters wrought in silver, the gold paten and chalice were placed upon the naked belly of the living altar [...] All was silent save for the low monotonous murmur of the blasphemous liturgy [...] An assistant crept forward bearing an infant in her arms. The child was held over the altar, a sharp gash across the neck, a stifled cry, and warm drops fell into the chalice and streamed upon the white figure beneath. The corpse was handed to la Voisin, who flung it callously into an oven fashioned for that purpose which glowed white-hot in its fierceness."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Étienne_Guibourg

    The remains of some 2500 infants were found buried on La Voisin's premises. According to some accounts, body parts of the sacrificed or aborted children were occasionally sold for various occult uses.

    Hollywood has made movies glorifying abortion, e.g., "The Cider House Rules" or "Vera Drake." Perhaps the next will be one portraying La Voisin as a protomartyr of feminism, a veritable precursor of Planned Parenthood!

    Well, have you seen Witch (promoted idiotically as Vvitch), which is, among other things, the purest example of the new sociopathic school of propaganda? People tolerate the shock in this school because they read-in disapproval of things it clearly approves. We start with a white Christian nuclear family in rural colonial New England. The normie viewer notes establishing details; the pinkhair views these exact same details as a subtler form of the provocations or gratuitous a-hole behavior in the first act of an action or horror film. To this we grant that witchcraft as understood then was totally real, justified in an amoral naturalistic sense (appropriately enough, Satanic morality), and victorious. It’s like if a Satanic feminist used Death Wish, Commando or Payback as a template, made the colonists the gangsters, and made the hero a magic-using, devil-compacting witch. It mocks the victims as it mocks their beliefs — for your sexism, you deserve to meet an real witch. Like Knock Knock, Get Out, or the Purge franchise, this is a Puritanically moralistic film pretending to be neutral.

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    It’s like if a Satanic feminist used Death Wish, Commando or Payback as a template, made the colonists the gangsters, and made the hero a magic-using, devil-compacting witch. It mocks the victims as it mocks their beliefs — for your sexism, you deserve to meet an real witch. Like Knock Knock, Get Out, or the Purge franchise, this is a Puritanically moralistic film pretending to be neutral.

     

    How can it be Puritanically Moralistic if it promotes Feminism and Satanic Witchcraft as a liberating force?

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  193. @Buffalo Joe
    Bleu, I am confused by your comment. "300" had a base in history, enough gore for the Tarantino blood porn fans, enough buff bodies for the gay market and horny gals, a rape scene and just a touch of nudity to add a little tenderness. Who wouldn't back this movie?

    You mean shitting on history (not just in the depiction of Iranians)? I wouldn’t.

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  194. @CK
    Bill is one of they.
    Does anyone think, for the smallest minute, that he wanted to have to play second fiddle to that woman, in public, as the First "Gentleman"?
    When you have been the king of the hill, being the urinal on the downhill slope is not an attractive proposition.
    And concurrently do you think that Hillary wanted him anywhere near visible in her campaign?
    If she had won it would have been because of him, as it is she lost without his help.

    Does anyone think, for the smallest minute, that he wanted to have to play second fiddle to that woman, in public, as the First “Gentleman”?

    Not really but as a power behind the throne and as access to power it would have been worth it. He obviously wanted it – see my Daily Mail article that I have linked to several times to date. Remember what Henry Kissinger said – “Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac”. And as a fairly typical looking Jewish guy not as good looking as say, Bibi, he would be better placed to appraise the efficacy of aphrodisiacs.

    If you want power that badly, you do what you need to do to win. You have The Clinton Bodycount as evidence of them playing to win, and then Hillary goes and ignores a two time president (pun unintentional, but I like it) in favor of wet-behind-the-ears Robby Mook. Dumb.

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    Not only power. Money. Lots and lots of money. Bill and Hill love money.
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  195. @Simon Tugmutton

    I do not vote because I do not wish to not give consent to the organized gang of criminals who populate the government at all levels.
     
    May I steal that for a T-shirt slogan?

    Go ahead. That’s basically what I wrote to our county’s Board of Elections a few years ago when I asked them to remove my name from the list of registered voters.

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    https://youtu.be/rAT_BuJAI70
    , @Mishra
    Recent encounters with local government had me using the word "gangsters" as well. Of course they're worse than the other kind of gangsters, because 1) you have to finance them without recourse 2) they hold the monopoly on what they call the "legitimate use of force" and 3) they use 1 & 2 to divest you of your freedom as well as your property if you cross them.

    Most government is essentially what Steve calls a self-licking ice cream cone. It exists simply to consume tax dollars and produce nothing. That's the harmless part, relatively speaking.

    At least with the other kind of gangsters you have the option of taking your business over to competing gangsters down the street. Not so with government. They're the ultimate strong-arm monopoly, and believe you me they know it.

    What sort of check exists on the abuse of this absolute power? Some other branch of government? The ballot box? Is there a third, equally ludicrous option? Because those two are laughable.

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  196. @Buffalo Joe
    Anonym, the democrats have exactly the same baskets if you think about it , especially Basket #1. The dem's Basket #2 should actually be filled with all the blacks that have labored on their political plantation and have never been allowed in the Masta's house. Basket #3 would be filled with all the fringe element dems who hate anyone who doesn't agree with them.

    Anonym, the democrats have exactly the same baskets if you think about it , especially Basket #1. The dem’s Basket #2 should actually be filled with all the blacks that have labored on their political plantation and have never been allowed in the Masta’s house. Basket #3 would be filled with all the fringe element dems who hate anyone who doesn’t agree with them.

    Basket #2 is the only one that matters in a campaign. You are not going to peel off enough of them in an election to matter, they are the most polarized voting bloc there is. Gibsmedats determine it, and you’d lose far too many whites to go after them. Blacks are either in #1 or #3, not #2 (in commercial quantities, you get the occasional Diamond and Silk but they won’t win an election for you except to persuade cuckservatives… maybe).

    Steve’s analysis of elections in terms of things like marriage gap, white men and married women versus coalition of fringes, is far better (trenchant in the words of Marx… *spit*). Trump campaigned on the Sailer Strategy and won. Like Babe Ruth pointing to the stands, Steve pointed this one out back in 2001. Even wikipedia gives him props.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Sailer#The_”Sailer_Strategy”

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    Anonym, thank you for the well thought out response. I appreciate.
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  197. @enemy of earth
    Go ahead. That's basically what I wrote to our county's Board of Elections a few years ago when I asked them to remove my name from the list of registered voters.

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  198. @Anon
    I have always thought Hillary Clinton is a masochist. She shares that trait with Nixon. Nixon wrote a book about his Six Crises, but they were all entirely of his own making, and he could have stayed out of trouble if he wanted it.

    Clinton has the exact same trait. She has gotten into an incredible amount of messes entirely of her own making, and and she has never been able to stay out of trouble for any particular length of time.

    For a masochist, being in trouble is a psychological necessity. They seek it deliberately. I'm glad she didn't become president, because she's probably get us nuked.

    I think it started with her father, who browbeat her thoroughly when she was young, and she soon began to associate parental love--and then love in general--with being pushed around. That's why she started out as a Goldwater girl, which is lunacy if you're a feminist. Then in the late 60s, she went to the other extreme, when the hippies were beginning to wear out their welcome. If you wanted to become unpopular with the majority at that particular time, being a hardcore left-wing hippie was the way to do it. That's why Nixon got elected. The majority were scared by all the crazy left-wingers.

    Then she married a guy whom she had to know was a womanizer. Bill Clinton chased every woman in sight, and she has stuck by him despite his infidelities, which is classic masochism. She then invested in cattle futures, which is insanely risky and could have destroyed the Clintons' finances entirely, and she ended up having to be rescued by people who wanted to do the Clintons a favor.

    She ran against Obama, and got beaten like a donkey by him, and what did she do? She went to work for him. Classic masochism. She wanted more suffering. She knew perfectly well when it came to a lightweight like Obama, she would take the blame for his mistakes. She failed to show due diligence in a country that was collapsing and undergoing utter chaos, namely Libya, and got into trouble for that, even though she could have avoided it by using a little common sense. Of course you have to protect your Embassy when a country is falling apart. Any idiot knows that.

    Then she blithely put all her classified emails on an unprotected server. Any rational person could guess she would be spied on. She stuffed her pockets via the Clinton Foundation with as much loot as she could, thoroughly disgracing herself in the eyes of anyone concerned with financial malfeasance. This is why Bernie Sanders made such inroads among Democrats. Any politician with any common sense knows you get rich after you're out of office, not before. Doing so beforehand makes you look like a greedy hog on the take and ruins your reputation and your chance to get elected.

    Even now, she's doing the rounds complaining and carrying on in such a sour old bag manner that she has spoiled her reputation even among Democrats, and they're so sick of her they will never pick her to run in 2020. Clinton is complaining longer and more relentlessly than any other loser in any other presidential election that we've ever had. This is Clinton deliberately choosing to sabotage herself again.

    All the above are not examples of stupidity. Hillary Clinton is not stupid. She's doing things like this deliberately to make trouble for herself because she gets a psychological kick out of being in trouble.

    So glad that bitch is not president.

    “All the above are not examples of stupidity. Hillary Clinton is not stupid. She’s doing things like this deliberately to make trouble for herself because she gets a psychological kick out of being in trouble.”

    Not because she’s a narcissist? Or has BPD?

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  199. @slumber_j

    Who is “They”?
     
    Yeah, that was my immediate response when I read that piece. I think she may be even weirder than she thinks we think she is.

    “They”, huh? I can’t believe how obtuse are some of Mr. Sailer’s readers. The doofus-looking young guy, next to whom I’d guess is Tom Steyer or some other ur-PC lefty zillionaire (with Governor Moonbeam, no less, on Mr. Steyer’s other side), is/was a Latinx UC Berserkeley student of indeterminate gender fluidity, whose “preferred pronoun” was/is “they”. This was before, true to form, he went full-Berserk, and murdered another semi-well-known young woman enviro-vegan-SJW activist, and attempted to murder a second such woman. Sad.

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  200. @PapayaSF
    Everything you write fits except for the cattle futures, which was a bribe/payoff of some sort. The commodities dealer was crooked, and simply assigned her the winning trades and some other client the losing trades. He was later convicted of exactly that (though not in her case). That's why she made a big score just once and never did commodities trading again.

    Right. It’s called front running. And it was a bribe.

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  201. @the one they call Desanex
    I’d like to see hideous Hillary
    Her frenzied face framed by a pillory;
    Each deplorable hick
    Given license to kick
    Her buttocks, so bloated and billowy.

    I’d like to see hideous Hillary
    Her frenzied face framed by a pillory;
    Each deplorable hick
    Given license to kick
    Her buttocks, so bloated and billowy.

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  202. @SunBakedSuburb
    Don't forget Obama's attorney general, Eric Holder. Wall Street instrument Holder is also an extreme racialist. It could be Holder and Harris, the brown ticket that will make white liberals drool. Californians know Harris is an empty pants suit; but Holder is a different beast altogether. Should he get executive power it'll be bad for Whitey.

    SBS, nice reply Thank you.

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  203. @Anonym
    Anonym, the democrats have exactly the same baskets if you think about it , especially Basket #1. The dem’s Basket #2 should actually be filled with all the blacks that have labored on their political plantation and have never been allowed in the Masta’s house. Basket #3 would be filled with all the fringe element dems who hate anyone who doesn’t agree with them.

    Basket #2 is the only one that matters in a campaign. You are not going to peel off enough of them in an election to matter, they are the most polarized voting bloc there is. Gibsmedats determine it, and you'd lose far too many whites to go after them. Blacks are either in #1 or #3, not #2 (in commercial quantities, you get the occasional Diamond and Silk but they won't win an election for you except to persuade cuckservatives... maybe).

    Steve's analysis of elections in terms of things like marriage gap, white men and married women versus coalition of fringes, is far better (trenchant in the words of Marx... *spit*). Trump campaigned on the Sailer Strategy and won. Like Babe Ruth pointing to the stands, Steve pointed this one out back in 2001. Even wikipedia gives him props.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Sailer#The_"Sailer_Strategy"

    Anonym, thank you for the well thought out response. I appreciate.

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  204. Steve,

    Sorry be a buttinski, but:
    would love to see your essay on the demise of the alt-right. You always kept yourself aloof from that stuff even though I am certain that your influence on the movement was very significant indeed.

    Okay?

    Alright, dammit: please and pretty please.

    Okay?

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  205. @Karl
    89 El Dato > he says “state” not “nation”. But maybe these things are the same in Hebrew?

    yes.

    There is the "State of Israel" ("medinat yisrael") which is different than "the ethnics people of Israel" ("ahm yisrael") which existed well before the creation of the current Sovereign country.

    I don't think it's strange. Poland didn't exist for any number of years, yet the Polish ethnic people didn't imagine that they had ceased to exist.

    I happen to like Arafat's advice that Israel change its regime-indicator to "Hebrew Republic", because it's a quite accurate description of the culture here. You can be generic-non-Jewish or even Muslim, and still be rather high up in the, uh, local Deep State - if you can tell off-color jokes to the cops and the troops in Hebrew

    You Americans will find out after you go into exile for the first time

    How about “The Israelite Hebrew Jewish Talmudic Republic of Israel” ?

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  206. @Neoconned
    https://artvoice.com/2018/04/18/crimes-secrets-allison-mack-nicki-clyne-top-members-nxivm-sex-slaver-cult/#.WtupsHNOmKo

    This is really good reading....

    You can build you a harem of dumb white women just by spouting eat pray live mumbo jumbo and by being into BDSM type stuff.

    I bet the women who turned him in were mad because he wouldn't spend enough time w him and we're just jealous.....

    Nicki Clyne quite her acting career to become a sex-slaver. She is a slave to Allison Mack to whom she is reportedly married.

    Nooooo … Cally!

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  207. @J.Ross
    Well, have you seen Witch (promoted idiotically as Vvitch), which is, among other things, the purest example of the new sociopathic school of propaganda? People tolerate the shock in this school because they read-in disapproval of things it clearly approves. We start with a white Christian nuclear family in rural colonial New England. The normie viewer notes establishing details; the pinkhair views these exact same details as a subtler form of the provocations or gratuitous a-hole behavior in the first act of an action or horror film. To this we grant that witchcraft as understood then was totally real, justified in an amoral naturalistic sense (appropriately enough, Satanic morality), and victorious. It's like if a Satanic feminist used Death Wish, Commando or Payback as a template, made the colonists the gangsters, and made the hero a magic-using, devil-compacting witch. It mocks the victims as it mocks their beliefs -- for your sexism, you deserve to meet an real witch. Like Knock Knock, Get Out, or the Purge franchise, this is a Puritanically moralistic film pretending to be neutral.

    It’s like if a Satanic feminist used Death Wish, Commando or Payback as a template, made the colonists the gangsters, and made the hero a magic-using, devil-compacting witch. It mocks the victims as it mocks their beliefs — for your sexism, you deserve to meet an real witch. Like Knock Knock, Get Out, or the Purge franchise, this is a Puritanically moralistic film pretending to be neutral.

    How can it be Puritanically Moralistic if it promotes Feminism and Satanic Witchcraft as a liberating force?

    philosoraptor.jpg

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    Satan's not a free agent or a random motile object.
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  208. @slumber_j

    Who is “They”?
     
    Yeah, that was my immediate response when I read that piece. I think she may be even weirder than she thinks we think she is.

    Rosebud.

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  209. @Berty
    Trump will lose if he doesn't start getting his head out of his ass and developing an actual strategy and vision. As things stand if Biden is the nominee he'll get clobbered.

    Both Biden and Trump will be too old.

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    Biden, probably. Trump, no.
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  210. anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @slumber_j

    Who is “They”?
     
    Yeah, that was my immediate response when I read that piece. I think she may be even weirder than she thinks we think she is.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Nixon in a pantsuit…complete with the paranoia and self-pity. The difference is that the Establishment hated him and loved her.

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  211. @Tyrion 2

    she believed it was in careful pursuit of a dream for generations of Americans: the election of the country’s first woman president.”
     
    Hillary is significantly less intellectually serious than the silliest Daily Stormer-esque Nazi troll on the internet - all whom would probably vote for any sex/race/religion if that individual was sure to pursue the right policies.

    Bill and Hillary, still stuck in the 1990s, feared the Bush surname most of all.”
     
    Yuck.

    “You know, I am getting pretty tired of hearing about how nobody likes me,” she said.

    “‘Oh, what’s the point? They’re never going to like me,’ Hillary told this friend.”
     
    They'd like you, if you did something good for them. Or at least if you stopped stomping on their face while crying about how you're the victim.

    Heck, half of the people on this site would name/rename their daughters 'Hillary Rodham" if you'd campaign for the following 3 policies:

    1. Immigration moratorium, or close enough.

    2. Re-balance trade.

    3. Bring the troops home, even very gradually.

    ‘I knew it. I knew this would happen to me….’ Hillary said, now within a couple of inches of his face. ‘They were never going to let me be president.’”
     
    Gross.

    The election was cruel to those merchants who stocked up on Hillary merchandise, none moreso than the baby name items. Hillary junk joins the remainder bin and sells even less than Osama or Khadaffi items. Fewer little girls named Hillary, or even the odd Rodham, with new parents wanting merch and then only among the bitter enders. Now that is a harsh world, and she missed her cut, too.

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    I knew that I shouldn't have bought those Hillary4Pres urinal cakes.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    I'm surprised not to have seen examples on Twitter of remaindered Hillary merchandise.
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  212. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "I think she may be even weirder than she thinks we think she is."

    Is that possible?

    Hillary frequently lapsed into recursive thinking and ended up chasing thoughts up her own rectum. Imagine the poor staffer tagged with helping her recover!

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  213. anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Murray
    Hillary's conversation with Robby Mook sounds like the kind of thing I used to hear routinely in my long-ago bartending days:

    Mook, with grave trepidation: "Madame Secretary [or Your Satanic Majesty, or whatever they called her], I have bad news..."

    Hillary, slurring: "I knew it. I knew thish would happen to me….’

    Mook, too terrified to speak, fights the urge to recoil as Hillary leans right into his face, reeking of vodka.

    Hillary: "They were never going to let me be preshident."

    The "within a couple of inches of his face" is a dead giveaway for someone who's three sheets to the wind, as Hillary reportedly was on election night.

    Hillary is fascinating if only for the demonstration of the power of leftist personality cults. In reality, she's a boring nonentity, a woman who's botched every single important (and unmerited) role she's been appointed to, and who appears never to have had a single original thought in her life. Yet for tens of millions of people worldwide, she's "the most qualified person ever to seek the presidency", and a heroic martyr to progress, and they just can't get enough of her interminable maunderings on the ever-growing list of "theys" who died her of her rightful crown.

    The media was seething after Clarence Thomas bested Anita Hill in the SCOTUS hearings. Along comes Hillary Clinton –Wellesley College, Yale Law , “Top 100 trial lawyers” (no such thing, by the way) blah, blah, blah–the perfect feminist torch carrier. First, last and always–she was a creation of the media and a symptom of our times.

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  214. anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @PapayaSF
    Everything you write fits except for the cattle futures, which was a bribe/payoff of some sort. The commodities dealer was crooked, and simply assigned her the winning trades and some other client the losing trades. He was later convicted of exactly that (though not in her case). That's why she made a big score just once and never did commodities trading again.

    Mmm….possibly. The comparisons to Nixon are certainly valid (see my earlier post). The cattle futures, however, were clearly a bribe–and the reasons she gave for hitting home runs in cattle futures fooled nobody and were flat-out clumsly and in retrospect were harbingers of things to come. My own take on her is that she is basically amoral and at least as narcissistic as the person to whom she lost, possibly even more. As a politician she was a zero who alienated fully half the electorate with her barely concealed contempt for them.

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  215. @Berty
    Trump will lose if he doesn't start getting his head out of his ass and developing an actual strategy and vision. As things stand if Biden is the nominee he'll get clobbered.

    Would you like to bet money on that lmfao.

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  216. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @CK
    Bill is one of they.
    Does anyone think, for the smallest minute, that he wanted to have to play second fiddle to that woman, in public, as the First "Gentleman"?
    When you have been the king of the hill, being the urinal on the downhill slope is not an attractive proposition.
    And concurrently do you think that Hillary wanted him anywhere near visible in her campaign?
    If she had won it would have been because of him, as it is she lost without his help.

    Does anyone else suspect that Hillary made plans to have Bill “offed” in dramatic fashion around November 6, 2018?

    This would have achieved a sympathy bump in her popularity which would probably peak two days later, November 8.

    At the same time, president Hillary would have been rid of Bill overshadowing her going forward.

    Bill – the REAL master politician – will have anticipated such attempts and no doubt took real precautions to stay away after mid-October.

    Some of the Comey drama re emails etc. may well have been stage-managed by Bill through cut-outs. In fact, it would not be surprising if Bill was party to a deal along these lines with Team Trump and both parties’ moneyed backers.

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    Could be. I wouldn’t put anything past Hildabeast. I think more likely the revelation of a kidnap plot of that grand baby by the KKK NEO NAZI WN deplorable.

    Remember pictures of her and Bill pushing the baby buggy around Manhattan trying to show she has a human heart? She was twice the size of Bill.
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  217. @Murray
    Hillary's conversation with Robby Mook sounds like the kind of thing I used to hear routinely in my long-ago bartending days:

    Mook, with grave trepidation: "Madame Secretary [or Your Satanic Majesty, or whatever they called her], I have bad news..."

    Hillary, slurring: "I knew it. I knew thish would happen to me….’

    Mook, too terrified to speak, fights the urge to recoil as Hillary leans right into his face, reeking of vodka.

    Hillary: "They were never going to let me be preshident."

    The "within a couple of inches of his face" is a dead giveaway for someone who's three sheets to the wind, as Hillary reportedly was on election night.

    Hillary is fascinating if only for the demonstration of the power of leftist personality cults. In reality, she's a boring nonentity, a woman who's botched every single important (and unmerited) role she's been appointed to, and who appears never to have had a single original thought in her life. Yet for tens of millions of people worldwide, she's "the most qualified person ever to seek the presidency", and a heroic martyr to progress, and they just can't get enough of her interminable maunderings on the ever-growing list of "theys" who died her of her rightful crown.

    Yet for tens of millions of people worldwide, she’s “the most qualified person ever to seek the presidency”

    Every time I see that quote I also see Washington, Adams, Jefferson and Madison, for example, asking each other “Gentlemen, who let the country we FOUNDED devolve into that?”. The deplorability is for those who believed even for one second that Hillary should be mentioned as having any stature whatsoever for that type of comparison.

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  218. I’d like to see hideous Hillary,
    Her frenzied face framed by a pillory;
    Each deplorable hick
    Given license to kick
    Her buttocks, so bloated and billowy.

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  219. @Ivy
    The election was cruel to those merchants who stocked up on Hillary merchandise, none moreso than the baby name items. Hillary junk joins the remainder bin and sells even less than Osama or Khadaffi items. Fewer little girls named Hillary, or even the odd Rodham, with new parents wanting merch and then only among the bitter enders. Now that is a harsh world, and she missed her cut, too.

    I knew that I shouldn’t have bought those Hillary4Pres urinal cakes.

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    LOL!
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  220. @Clifford Brown
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/strong-woman-and-her-gay-minion-destroy-mansplaining-stale-pale-male/#comments

    Days before the election, Bill Clinton was allegedly so frustrated with Hillary Clinton's and Robert Mook's ignoring of White Working Class Democrats that he threw his cellphone from the upper floors of his Presidential Library in Little Rock, Arkansas. No way of knowing if this story is apocryphal or not.

    Goes without saying that Hillary wanted to do it "her way" out of Bill's shadow. Mook's algorithm and Hillary dogmatic hubris lead her campaign astray.

    Bill Clinton was not only extremely intelligent, but in his prime, in-person, Bill Clinton, had an almost mutant-like sense of charisma and empathy. In contrast, Hillary's charisma was a negative with anyone that was not on the high-roller donor list.

    Clinton and Carville were also ruthless Southern Boys from back when Democrats still won Down South. Even Bill Clinton's intro video at the 2016 DNC is like a portal to an alternative Democratic Party.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX9T-X4eIVQ

    As it so happens, I met and conversed with HRC back in 1992 when she came to my Nor Cal college campaigning for Bill. I and 3 or 4 other students spent about 5 minutes talking with her. She was cold and unengaged, like she would have rather been somewhere else. Not that i blame her but she was no natural politician like Bill was.

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  221. @Svigor

    ‘They were never going to let me be president.’”
     
    Completely tone-deaf. TPTB were so convinced that cankles had it in the bag, they put it on cruise control and fell asleep at the wheel.

    LOL, that’s hilarious. Imagine being woken up by this mug to be told you’re going to lost the presidency to DJT
     
    Yeah, now imagine you're a crazy catty narcissistic yenta like Hillary; sending an ugly, post-menopausal, servile woman is the safe bet.

    Completely tone-deaf. TPTB were so convinced that cankles had it in the bag, they put it on cruise control and fell asleep at the wheel.

    Nailed it.

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  222. @JohnnyWalker123
    I knew that I shouldn't have bought those Hillary4Pres urinal cakes.

    LOL!

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  223. Anonymous[871] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato
    After closure, Elmwood Café owner says worker co-op, nonprofit could take over

    [Elmwood owner Michael Pearce] said those efforts had “included hosting a community forum, development of an implicit bias employee training curriculum, and the hiring of an outside expert to train our employees.”

     

    The commissars will do an audit later...

    in the midst of the national conversation about the arrest of two black men in a Philadelphia Starbucks.

     

    Those national conversations are fantastic.

    Opinion: Whatever the reason it closed, the Elmwood Café missed a real opportunity to be a force for change in Berkeley

    W. Kamau Bell, who lives in Berkeley, is a sociopolitical comedian and the host and executive producer of the Emmy Award winning docu-series "United Shades of America with W. Kamau Bell," premiering Sunday April 29, 10:15 p.m. on CNN.

    So, I categorically reject the assertion that is in today’s Berkeleyside article, and in numerous media outlets that covered the closing of the Elmwood Café, that the racism that my wife, my baby daughter, and I experienced at the Elmwood Café is just something that I am “claiming” occurred. The racism has been admitted to, proven, discussed, and finally — and most troublingly — ignored by the Elmwood Café. For more than three years

    So I shed no tears — nor do I hold a celebration — at the closing of the Elmwood Café. I’m more bummed about Jeremy’s and the frozen yogurt shop. Jeremy’s had some good clothing deals. And my kids love frozen yogurt. If anything, I hope Mrs. Dalloway’s bookstore, which shares a wall with the old Elmwood Café, can expand into it. Because while I don’t know if the world needs another coffee shop, I’m always happy to see big independent bookstores.
     
    Unless they carry racist books, I imagine.

    At community forum in Berkeley, W. Kamau Bell and Elmwood Café launch ‘implicit bias’ training initiative

    The comedian, who is African-American, made public on his blog how he was asked to leave the café on College Avenue while he was talking to his wife and her friends, who are all white, at an outdoor table.

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    Novella Coleman said the law does a poor job of dealing with racism. “One of huge failures of the law is that it doesn’t recognize implicit bias,” she said. “The law requires that you prove [an act of racism] is intentional. The law doesn’t recognize that biases are harbored without people knowing about them. People see themselves as progressive but they still buy into those racial biases and situations can trigger them.” She said that if employee accused of racism can provide a race-neutral explanation for their act, “then the law is good with that.”
     
    Badthink should carry fines or prison time.

    During the evening’s discussion about implicit bias Bell spoke about how he himself had had “homophobia in him” before he moved to the Bay Area but that it was “worked out of him.”

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    At the forum, an audience member asked Bell, via a written question, what made him so sure the Jan. 26 incident was a racially motivated act, and not one directed at the homeless population that is to be found around the café. Bell responded: “So what if I was homeless? Even if I’m homeless I’m a black homeless person — you can’t take that part away from me.”
     
    Just say that you are waiting for the Jewish Businessman.

    Around the time when W. Kamau Bell had his “incident”, I had a low-status job that one day involved me interacting with him in his capacity as some sort of minor public figure. I had no idea who he was, apart from thinking that I might have heard of him before (and it turns out that I had, since I had several times watched a clip of a guest on one of his shows, a clip that I found funny). In the few minutes I dealt with him, he struck me as an insufferable prick, and I was glad to hand him off to other employees, although I felt for them, since it seemed he immediately started to be a prick to them too. I say this as a response to his overall demeanor throughout the “working” interactions that he had with me and others.

    As for the given incident, my guess is that he was offended that someone failed to recognize him as an “important” person.

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    I just read further on this Berkeley incident, and had some thoughts on a more general level that relate to the recent Starbucks incident, but also to a more general theme repeatedly mentioned here.

    One of the topics that Steve does a good job of drawing attention too is how, on the local government level, many standard leftist "ideological" points have the actual function of keeping the riffraff out, or of getting the riffraff removed. I don't think it ever even occurred to me that this was, on some level, the actual objective of many such ideological lines until reading here.

    But... how does this work on the level of individual businesses (local or corporate) and individual non-profit venues (small or large)? It does not matter what your political views are, or how cool and multi-racial your associates are: if your venue is viewed as a fully open to the riffraff, you WILL NOT SUCCEED (and I think nearly EVERYONE who runs any venue on a local level adjacent to large populations of riffraff grasps this in some way, unless they are running a venue that has NO function other than directly serving the riffraff by providing food, shelter, etc.) Of course, this is largely a forbidden topic of discussion.

    My sense is that the actual front-line task of policing the riffraff falls to a class of workers comprised of people who regard themselves as underemployed, presentable working class people (often black, but sometimes white), and immigrants. They can all be thrown under the bus if needed. (The "underemployed" will not protest, since most are SJW-sympathetic, and do not regard the job as their real life.) In most large institutions, both for-profit and non-profit, there seems to be a level of "take no crap" managers who will enforce rules on keeping out the riffraff. They know that their jobs depend on this. (By contrast, the local "chiefs" that I have encountered, both for-profit and non-profit, even if almost always fairly SJW, have always seemed to have some degree of internal realism regarding these matters.) That said, many would be likely to grovel if actually accused of wrongdoing, since they think they are being accused by people on "their side". In larger organizations, like universities or global corporations, I suspect a division exists between middle managers who are just "doing a job" and top people who view their "job" as expressing fundamental moral views. But the mid-level "enforcers" cannot be thrown under the bus. They are crucial to the functioning of the endeavor. The low-level workers can be sacrificed however. That seems to be what happened in Mr. Bell's Berkeley case and in the recent Philly Starbucks case.

    I think this is a useful topic for further theoretical reflection, and I'd hope that in times to come, anyone fired or induced to resign for following explicit or implicit policy will resort to lawfare.
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  224. @El Dato

    It’s like if a Satanic feminist used Death Wish, Commando or Payback as a template, made the colonists the gangsters, and made the hero a magic-using, devil-compacting witch. It mocks the victims as it mocks their beliefs — for your sexism, you deserve to meet an real witch. Like Knock Knock, Get Out, or the Purge franchise, this is a Puritanically moralistic film pretending to be neutral.

     

    How can it be Puritanically Moralistic if it promotes Feminism and Satanic Witchcraft as a liberating force?

    philosoraptor.jpg

    Satan’s not a free agent or a random motile object.

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  225. Hillary is (not a joke) the most naturally gifted politician of this age. Just not with ordinary people you deplorables you. But with people who MATTER … gay Wall Streeters, Barbara Streisand, Martha’s Vineyard and the Hamptons billionaires, the oligarchs in Hollywood, Academia, Wall Street, and Business who run this country and have run it since Ike at least.

    As we can see with Trump, they’re not going to tolerate you deplorables you and are working hard to remove him.

    Hillary won this group, not just by shared HATE HATE HATE of the White working AND middle class but by building a massive political machine that employs much of the TV/Media people, political operatives, and the “super delegates” who control the Nomination of the Democratic Party. If Hillary wants to run again its hers, as primary votes don’t matter as Bernie Bros found out — its all Super Delegates now. And these are Hillary’s people — far more so than Bill who never really got along with them the way Hillary did in their shared disdain of ordinary White people. Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeffrey Immelt, and Bob Iger all love love love Hillary. Do you have a few spare billion lying around you deplorable you?

    Trump’s victory was a victory, stunning, over the oligarchs who have run this country since Ike. It is why Trump’s voters have to be punished as much as Trump. To teach us deplorables a lesson by our betters.

    [Who are all pretty much weird and debased and a step away from branding some "slave" on the private parts.]

    IF and only IF Kamala Harriss or Corey Booker or Eric Holder (My People) get the support of Hollywood, Academia, and various oligarchs through the creation of a machine backed by a Zuck or Bezos with limitless money, they have a shot of taking the nomination away from Hillary!

    But lets be honest, Trump has been a disaster, he’s riled up every NAM, Pussy-hat wearing loon (that’s about 90% of White middle and upper class women right there), gun grabber, power twink, and oligarch and its the latter who are dangerous. They run almost all business, the entire government, the military, the cops, all of the Universities, Hollywood, and the media. Trump got them angry and in a punishing mood towards the Deplorables without doing anything to energize the Deplorables. Napoleon ended constant revolution in France by giving most of the Peasantry some small holdings carved out of the nobility, and creating battlefield promotions and en-nobling which got the peasants to turn out in the millions for his campaigns. Yes, people will fight for a few acres of land and some petty title and social honor when they have had nothing. All Trump has done is get Cackling Gun Grabber Dianne Feinstein literally rubbing her hands in glee and empower all the gun grabbers who are now media stars.

    Hillary could beat Trump like a drum next election, particularly if he’s under indictment (thats if the Deep State does not just remove him) by the simple expedient of making millions of “Instant Americans” (just add water) by legalization of all the illegals or even State officials just saying illegals can vote …

    As California has already done.

    I look around and where is the raw, political, social, economic, and military power create fear, uncertainty, and doubt in the oligarchs? Really all Hillary has to do is let her oligarchs carry her over the goal line and she’ll be the President finally. Do you have $250 million in the bank? Heck does Eric Holder or Kamala Harris? Only Oprah can defeat Hillary in the Super Delegate fight because she’s got more money and huge hold over all NAM and White female voters.

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    " KH, CB, EH, my people", This statement alone mykes me want to puke, these people are horrid scumbags.

    "But let's be honest Trump has been a disaster". Bullshit, he most certainly has not been a "disaster", considering the siege, and gauntlet he is is dealing with 24/7.

    "He's riled up every NAM, Pussy hat wearing loon" . Nonsense, they are riled up because they, and the total deranged democrat machine, had mistakenly assumed that they finally had the ETERNAL "progressive" leftist choke-hold on the US gov in the bag : THIS is why they are "riled" simply because they did not get into the WH forever, and not because of DT.

    Obviously you are still in great pain because your leftist, progressive lunatic buddies did not permanently take the WH, so just start counting the days til Nov 4 2024, and then you can try again .

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz artist.

    , @Crawfurdmuir

    But lets be honest, Trump has been a disaster, he’s riled up every NAM, Pussy-hat wearing loon (that’s about 90% of White middle and upper class women right there), gun grabber, power twink, and oligarch and its the latter who are dangerous.
     
    As a thought-experiment, can you name any Republican primary candidate other than Trump, who, had he won the party's nomination and then the general election, would not have provoked the same sort of hysterical response? I can't. The specifics of the attack might be different - had (for example) Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio won, the left would not use the exact tropes and tactics against either one of them that it has against Trump, but its attack would be just as vigorous.

    George W. Bush now seems to enjoy "strange new respect" among the chattering class, because he has recently made unflattering remarks about Trump, but has everyone already forgotten how he (just like Trump) was routinely compared to Hitler, and how the "Patriot Act" was about to plunge the country into totalitarianism? Such talking points are hardy perennials in leftist propaganda - everyone to their right is a "fascist."

    Think about how Mitt Romney was attacked during the general election campaign of 2012 as a callous billionaire, a prep-school bully, and an animal abuser. Harry Reid alleged that he paid no income taxes. Had Romney been elected one can only imagine the pretexts that would have been contrived for Congressional investigation of his business affairs.

    The bitterness and stridency of the anti-Trump contingent is not so much the result of Trump's election as it is of Hillary Clinton's defeat. The fix was supposed to be in - all the prognosticators said she would win. Then, against all expectations, she lost.

    "Earth's Potentates and pow'rful States,
    Captains and Men of Might,
    Are quite abasht, their courage dasht,
    At this most dreadful sight.
    Mean men lament, great men do rent
    Their Robes and tear their hair:
    They do not spare their flesh to tear,
    Through terrible despair."

    It would have been so had any Republican prevailed against Hillary - though I wonder if anyone other than Trump could have done.

    What's unique about Trump is that the predictable leftist hysterics were joined by those of the NeverTrump soi-disant conservatives, e.g., at National Review. That wouldn't have happened had (say) ¡Jeb! or Rubio or even Cruz been the Republican candidate. The reasons for that are a subject for another time.

    , @Anon
    Still aren’t getting laid by any color of woman. Your sexual frustration is obvious.
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  226. @Arclight
    I don't know - I feel we are overdue for a recession and that always gets blamed on the incumbent, plus I do think the Dems will nominate Harris or someone else who is not white to boost black turnout, which could be decisive in PA, MI, and WI. Now it's possible some white voters who pulled the lever for Hilary vote for Trump in 2020 but I am not very optimistic about that absent some more BLM-inspired riots and property damage in a major city or two. On the other hand, I did read something the other day about how some elements in the Democratic party are starting to talk about pushing through reparations if they take over Congress and the presidency, and broadcasting that early and often could be enough to push more white voters away from the Dems in a national election.

    If the DNC succeeds in defenestrating all the white guys who run everything, I predict the coup plotters will run amok with even more crazy left-wing nonsense that turns off voters.

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  227. “Hillary didn’t seem all that surprised. ‘I knew it. I knew this would happen to me….’ Hillary said, now within a couple of inches of his face. ‘They were never going to let me be president.’”

    Indeed! Who exactly is “they”? Does Hillary refer to the Ruling Class, the Deep State, and such? But as Amy Chozick reminds us, Hillary knows these people and they smile on her face. Or simply to the Usual List of Suspects: the Republicans, the Russians, the FBI, and, above all, Barack Obama? Is that it? Hillary will always blame Mr. Obama, (its HIS Justice Department and FBI that attacked her after all), but can never say so for fear of ostracism.

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  228. Anonymous[871] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Around the time when W. Kamau Bell had his "incident", I had a low-status job that one day involved me interacting with him in his capacity as some sort of minor public figure. I had no idea who he was, apart from thinking that I might have heard of him before (and it turns out that I had, since I had several times watched a clip of a guest on one of his shows, a clip that I found funny). In the few minutes I dealt with him, he struck me as an insufferable prick, and I was glad to hand him off to other employees, although I felt for them, since it seemed he immediately started to be a prick to them too. I say this as a response to his overall demeanor throughout the "working" interactions that he had with me and others.

    As for the given incident, my guess is that he was offended that someone failed to recognize him as an "important" person.

    I just read further on this Berkeley incident, and had some thoughts on a more general level that relate to the recent Starbucks incident, but also to a more general theme repeatedly mentioned here.

    One of the topics that Steve does a good job of drawing attention too is how, on the local government level, many standard leftist “ideological” points have the actual function of keeping the riffraff out, or of getting the riffraff removed. I don’t think it ever even occurred to me that this was, on some level, the actual objective of many such ideological lines until reading here.

    But… how does this work on the level of individual businesses (local or corporate) and individual non-profit venues (small or large)? It does not matter what your political views are, or how cool and multi-racial your associates are: if your venue is viewed as a fully open to the riffraff, you WILL NOT SUCCEED (and I think nearly EVERYONE who runs any venue on a local level adjacent to large populations of riffraff grasps this in some way, unless they are running a venue that has NO function other than directly serving the riffraff by providing food, shelter, etc.) Of course, this is largely a forbidden topic of discussion.

    My sense is that the actual front-line task of policing the riffraff falls to a class of workers comprised of people who regard themselves as underemployed, presentable working class people (often black, but sometimes white), and immigrants. They can all be thrown under the bus if needed. (The “underemployed” will not protest, since most are SJW-sympathetic, and do not regard the job as their real life.) In most large institutions, both for-profit and non-profit, there seems to be a level of “take no crap” managers who will enforce rules on keeping out the riffraff. They know that their jobs depend on this. (By contrast, the local “chiefs” that I have encountered, both for-profit and non-profit, even if almost always fairly SJW, have always seemed to have some degree of internal realism regarding these matters.) That said, many would be likely to grovel if actually accused of wrongdoing, since they think they are being accused by people on “their side”. In larger organizations, like universities or global corporations, I suspect a division exists between middle managers who are just “doing a job” and top people who view their “job” as expressing fundamental moral views. But the mid-level “enforcers” cannot be thrown under the bus. They are crucial to the functioning of the endeavor. The low-level workers can be sacrificed however. That seems to be what happened in Mr. Bell’s Berkeley case and in the recent Philly Starbucks case.

    I think this is a useful topic for further theoretical reflection, and I’d hope that in times to come, anyone fired or induced to resign for following explicit or implicit policy will resort to lawfare.

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  229. @Buffalo Joe
    Mo, I think that Hillary drained her well of donations last time around and I don't think the DNC is in her hip pocket anymore. Bernie will run again and the far left will shred themselves trying to decide if Corey Booker, Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris should get the nod.

    The Democrats don’t know whether to turn right or left, and could well just go on with the same old message, and the same old Hillary.

    But Trump has been such a disappointment that one can imagine a successful Republican challenger who has grabbed bits and pieces of the Trump message. Not that hard really, to show greater sensitivity to the damage illegal immigration has done to working class Americans, or to appreciate the value of peace in the Middle East.

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    I don't know why you think Trump's been such a disappointment. I support him more than ever, as does everyone I know who voted for him. He was elected with a majority in both houses of Congress and should have been able to move quickly on so many critical issues that were part of his agenda. It's many of the so-called "Republicans", including Sessions and the despicable Rand Paul, who have been the disappointment.
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  230. @indocon
    The sad thing is that the one accomplishment Trump can claim, the tax cuts, exclusively benefit all those people who were laughing at the deplorables in Hamptons, Beverly Hills, Silicon Valley, Manhattan. All deplorables have gotten out of Trump is hot rhetoric.

    Do you prepare your own income tax return?

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  231. @AnotherDad

    Incredible to me that someone who was handed a Senate seat and then for no reason at all made secstate and then had the path to a nomination bulldozed for her and then got the exact opponent she pushed for…still talks like this. Gross.
     
    Exactly.

    It's actually even worse. Hillary has been either a mediocrity or, often, an outright failure at every position she has occupied her whole life.

    Look through the list:
    -- lawyer -- Whitewater
    -- Arkansas first lady -- cattle futures
    -- Health care task force leader -- disaster
    -- First lady -- a net negative for her husband
    -- NY Senator -- ok, this one is just mediocre, nothing of note
    -- Pres candidate #1 -- frontrunner, blew it
    -- Sec of State -- overall failure, bengazi disaster, plus email scandal

    It's actually a record of continual incompetence and failure. And yet believes because she's failed upward, that she's somehow "paid her dues" or "has the resume" and deserves to be the first female President.

    The idea that one is expected to actually *perform* and *excel* in a particular position to deserve the next position seems beyond her.

    Hillary might be surprised but there are actually a fair number of American men and women who actually do superb work at their jobs--maybe an occasional misstep they learn from--and slowly climb up. Most folks don't get to screw up repeatedly and get to "fail up".

    Excellent comment, Joe. Bravo.

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  232. @Anon
    Very interesting to compare Hillary's private remark with some of Trump's (in Comey's summer camp diary):

    When talking about the free media (as Comey puts it, and we can assume he means the internet, ) Trump corrects or contradicts him by calling it the 'earned media'. For Trump, in that moment, people's interest in him is something he earns, and is not given to him for being him (mostly)- at least in his own eccentric head. It shows some minimal level of respect that other people- normal, voting, blogging people- have their own agency which he must "win" over; no matter how great he finds himself (and it's safe to say he is not lacking a generous self-conception.)

    Contrast this with Hillary. Hillary imagines there is some shadowy, amorphous 'they', which prevents her desires and blunts her ambitions out of spite, and for no other reason. She is a passive observer waiting for this 'they' to finally relent and let her 'have' what she deserves (to which she is entitled). When she doesn't get it, it's open season for self-pity because this cabal has worked all her life to prevent her from having the good things like ice cream and the presidency. This cabal, being as devious as it is, is a constantly shifting conspiracy of enemies- mostly deplorables and frogs- and abstractions which never quite take human form. Humans, for Hillary, are just as passive dancing partners as she is- everyone slugs around on the dance floor until the 'theys' of the world recognize their inherent greatness- but mostly, Hillary's.

    Earned media is a biz term for media one doesnt pay for

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  233. @Ivy
    The election was cruel to those merchants who stocked up on Hillary merchandise, none moreso than the baby name items. Hillary junk joins the remainder bin and sells even less than Osama or Khadaffi items. Fewer little girls named Hillary, or even the odd Rodham, with new parents wanting merch and then only among the bitter enders. Now that is a harsh world, and she missed her cut, too.

    I’m surprised not to have seen examples on Twitter of remaindered Hillary merchandise.

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    I’m surprised not to have seen examples on Twitter of remaindered Hillary merchandise.
     
    These are nothing compared to ¡¡¡¡Yebs¡¡¡¡ leftover guac bowls. A Miami warehouse has thousands of them for making *sensei* level guacamole.
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  234. @Svigor

    ‘They were never going to let me be president.’”
     
    Completely tone-deaf. TPTB were so convinced that cankles had it in the bag, they put it on cruise control and fell asleep at the wheel.

    LOL, that’s hilarious. Imagine being woken up by this mug to be told you’re going to lost the presidency to DJT
     
    Yeah, now imagine you're a crazy catty narcissistic yenta like Hillary; sending an ugly, post-menopausal, servile woman is the safe bet.

    “The Uber self-driving presidency”

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  235. @MEH 0910
    ‘They Were Never Going to Let Me Be President’
    By AMY CHOZICK
    APRIL 20, 2018

    I figured that if anyone knew whom Mrs. Clinton was referring to with that insidious “they” that, like some invisible army of adversaries (real and imagined), wielded its collective power and caused her to lose the most winnable presidential election in modern history, it was me.

    They were the vast-right wing conspiracy. They were the patriarchy that could never let an ambitious former first lady finally shatter “that highest, hardest glass ceiling.” They were the people of Wisconsin and James Comey. They were white suburban women who would rather vote for a man who bragged about sexual assault than a woman who seemed an affront to who they were.

    And yes, they were political reporters (“big egos and no brains,” she called us) hounding her about her emails and transfixed by the spectacle of the first reality TV show candidate.

    It’s dizzying to realize that without even knowing it, you’ve ended up on the wrong side of history. Months after the election, every time I heard the words “Russia” and “collude,” this realization swirled in my head, enveloping everything.
    ......

    The Bernie Bros and Mr. Trump’s Twitter trolls had called me a donkey-faced whore and a Hillary shill, but nothing hurt worse than my own colleagues calling me a de facto instrument of Russian intelligence. The worst part was, they were right.
     

    Wait! So she IS a donkey faced whore?!
    Wow, that took guts on her part!

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  236. @enemy of earth
    Go ahead. That's basically what I wrote to our county's Board of Elections a few years ago when I asked them to remove my name from the list of registered voters.

    Recent encounters with local government had me using the word “gangsters” as well. Of course they’re worse than the other kind of gangsters, because 1) you have to finance them without recourse 2) they hold the monopoly on what they call the “legitimate use of force” and 3) they use 1 & 2 to divest you of your freedom as well as your property if you cross them.

    Most government is essentially what Steve calls a self-licking ice cream cone. It exists simply to consume tax dollars and produce nothing. That’s the harmless part, relatively speaking.

    At least with the other kind of gangsters you have the option of taking your business over to competing gangsters down the street. Not so with government. They’re the ultimate strong-arm monopoly, and believe you me they know it.

    What sort of check exists on the abuse of this absolute power? Some other branch of government? The ballot box? Is there a third, equally ludicrous option? Because those two are laughable.

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  237. @Whiskey
    Hillary is (not a joke) the most naturally gifted politician of this age. Just not with ordinary people you deplorables you. But with people who MATTER ... gay Wall Streeters, Barbara Streisand, Martha's Vineyard and the Hamptons billionaires, the oligarchs in Hollywood, Academia, Wall Street, and Business who run this country and have run it since Ike at least.

    As we can see with Trump, they're not going to tolerate you deplorables you and are working hard to remove him.

    Hillary won this group, not just by shared HATE HATE HATE of the White working AND middle class but by building a massive political machine that employs much of the TV/Media people, political operatives, and the "super delegates" who control the Nomination of the Democratic Party. If Hillary wants to run again its hers, as primary votes don't matter as Bernie Bros found out -- its all Super Delegates now. And these are Hillary's people -- far more so than Bill who never really got along with them the way Hillary did in their shared disdain of ordinary White people. Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeffrey Immelt, and Bob Iger all love love love Hillary. Do you have a few spare billion lying around you deplorable you?

    Trump's victory was a victory, stunning, over the oligarchs who have run this country since Ike. It is why Trump's voters have to be punished as much as Trump. To teach us deplorables a lesson by our betters.

    [Who are all pretty much weird and debased and a step away from branding some "slave" on the private parts.]

    IF and only IF Kamala Harriss or Corey Booker or Eric Holder (My People) get the support of Hollywood, Academia, and various oligarchs through the creation of a machine backed by a Zuck or Bezos with limitless money, they have a shot of taking the nomination away from Hillary!

    But lets be honest, Trump has been a disaster, he's riled up every NAM, Pussy-hat wearing loon (that's about 90% of White middle and upper class women right there), gun grabber, power twink, and oligarch and its the latter who are dangerous. They run almost all business, the entire government, the military, the cops, all of the Universities, Hollywood, and the media. Trump got them angry and in a punishing mood towards the Deplorables without doing anything to energize the Deplorables. Napoleon ended constant revolution in France by giving most of the Peasantry some small holdings carved out of the nobility, and creating battlefield promotions and en-nobling which got the peasants to turn out in the millions for his campaigns. Yes, people will fight for a few acres of land and some petty title and social honor when they have had nothing. All Trump has done is get Cackling Gun Grabber Dianne Feinstein literally rubbing her hands in glee and empower all the gun grabbers who are now media stars.

    Hillary could beat Trump like a drum next election, particularly if he's under indictment (thats if the Deep State does not just remove him) by the simple expedient of making millions of "Instant Americans" (just add water) by legalization of all the illegals or even State officials just saying illegals can vote ...

    As California has already done.

    I look around and where is the raw, political, social, economic, and military power create fear, uncertainty, and doubt in the oligarchs? Really all Hillary has to do is let her oligarchs carry her over the goal line and she'll be the President finally. Do you have $250 million in the bank? Heck does Eric Holder or Kamala Harris? Only Oprah can defeat Hillary in the Super Delegate fight because she's got more money and huge hold over all NAM and White female voters.

    ” KH, CB, EH, my people”, This statement alone mykes me want to puke, these people are horrid scumbags.

    “But let’s be honest Trump has been a disaster”. Bullshit, he most certainly has not been a “disaster”, considering the siege, and gauntlet he is is dealing with 24/7.

    “He’s riled up every NAM, Pussy hat wearing loon” . Nonsense, they are riled up because they, and the total deranged democrat machine, had mistakenly assumed that they finally had the ETERNAL “progressive” leftist choke-hold on the US gov in the bag : THIS is why they are “riled” simply because they did not get into the WH forever, and not because of DT.

    Obviously you are still in great pain because your leftist, progressive lunatic buddies did not permanently take the WH, so just start counting the days til Nov 4 2024, and then you can try again .

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz artist.

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    Jazzman you are severely underestimating both Hillary and the well financed and oiled Clinton political machine.

    Hillary almost won. Ted Cruz is facing a serious Democrat challenge in Texas and the state is 60% non white....the only reason Trump won Texas is because of the notorious voter apathy that Steve likes to point out that Hispanics tend to have.

    Trump lied. He lies to the Ohio/Pennsylvania/Michigan etc voters saying not only that he would repatriate their factories and jobs but their union power and mass middle class culture that was there in the 70s-90s that outsourcing, insourcing of scab illegal labor and the online Amazon exonomy have so viciously snuffed out....

    Those factories aren't coming back and his voter margins in thise Midwestern states he lied to aren't that large...

    "It's the exonomy stupid".....but he's too worried about Syria and Twitter wars with fame seeking FBI bureaucrats and media idiots at CNN.

    He should propose a moderate New Deal type program and aim most of the jobs at the swing States that supported him.. if Schumer etc opposenhim say WHAT YOU OPPOSE UNION JOBS??

    If Schumer says yes Trump re wins the Midwest. Otherwise bar a stroke or health event on Hillary's part shell coast to victory in 2020 in a landslide as white women back their sister up over the orange oaf who reminds them of their ex husbands who cheated on them with strippers. .
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  238. @wren
    Thanks, I will look more into Wayne Shorter and Anthony Braxton.

    I can enjoy jazz genius much more than hiphop celebrities.

    I met and played with some of the jazz greats in my high school jazz band before I was mature enough to appreciate it.

    Wayne shorter yeah, Braxton, no thanks.

    “Hip Hop” is garbage and has nothing in common with real music.

    “I met and played with some of the Jazz greats”

    And I shared an apartment for years with a trapsman, who had in fact played with Coltrane, Chet Baker, Jimmy Woode, and many other of the “legends”.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.

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  239. “Quem Iuppiter vult perdere, dementat prius”

    “Whom the gods (Jupiter) would destroy they first make mad”

    Hubris brought down Hillary and her team, led by the clueless gay Mook.

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    Here's how the Bill Clinton vs Robbie Mook campaign advice might have gone down in a medieval setting.

    Mook: What racist bigot would do such a thing?
    Bill: If he could win the rust belt, he could take the presidency...
    Mook: We would stop him!
    Bill: Who is this person who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
    Hillary: I have declared Mook my campaign advisor!
    Bill: Is he qualified?
    Mook: I am skilled in the arts of campaigns and electoral tactics, sire.
    Bill: Are you? Then what advice would you offer on the, uh, present, uh situation?

    https://youtu.be/4S7QARslq74
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  240. @Lugash

    “Of all the Brooklyn aides, Jen Palmieri had the most pleasant bedside manner,” Chozick writes.
     
    LOL, that's hilarious. Imagine being woken up by this mug to be told you're going to lost the presidency to DJT

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Jennifer_Palmieri%2C_Aug._2013_%28cropped%29.jpg

    Likely carpet muncher.

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  241. @Flip
    Both Biden and Trump will be too old.

    Biden, probably. Trump, no.

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