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There’s always a lot of interesting news that gets released over a long Fourth of July weekend.
‘President Hillary Clinton?’ She Wants Progress on Immigration and to Drink With G.O.P.
By PATRICK HEALY JULY 3, 2016Should she win the presidency, Hillary Clinton would quickly try to find common ground with Republicans on an immigration overhaul and infrastructure spending, risking the wrath of liberals who would like nothing more than to twist the knife in a wounded opposition party. …
Mrs. Clinton would even schmooze differently than the past few presidents have. Not one to do business over golf or basketball, she would bring back the intimate style of former Presidents Ronald Reagan and Lyndon B. Johnson, negotiating over adult beverages. Picture a steady stream of senators, congressmen and other leaders raising a glass and talking policy in the Oval Office with her and her likely chief of staff, John D. Podesta, as her husband pops in with a quick thought or a disarming compliment. …
“To be crystal clear: She has led many battles where you can’t compromise on principle,” Ms. Tanden added. “But she also loves socializing, loves having people and spouses over, and really loves talking over drinks.”
In May, The New York Times examined Donald J. Trump’s plans for his first 100 days, during which he said he would focus on divisive campaign promises like building a border wall with Mexico. By contrast, The Times found in its reporting on plans for Mrs. Clinton’s 100 days that that she would look to push issues that might be broadly popular, like infrastructure jobs and a breakthrough on immigration.
…Much of her budget plan — about $1.4 trillion in new spending over the next decade and $1.2 trillion in tax increases aimed mostly at the wealthy, according to a recent independent report — is noxious to House and Senate Republicans.
Yet some of them are open to her two early priorities: $275 billion in infrastructure spending, and an immigration bill with a path to citizenship like the one already passed by the Senate. …
… Executive actions were a flash point between Mr. Obama and Republicans; several said Mrs. Clinton would have a hard time getting them over for cocktails if she shoved executive actions down their throats. …
She hopes to reassure progressives with her executive actions, which would also include new protections for undocumented immigrant parents, as well as her personnel appointments. Having women make up half of her cabinet would be historic (in recent years, a quarter to a third of cabinet positions have been held by women), and Democrats close to Mrs. Clinton say she may decide to retain Ms. Lynch, the nation’s first black woman to be attorney general, who took office in April 2015.
One role [Bill] will be welcome to play is as an icebreaker at the Oval Office happy hour.
Mrs. Clinton’s ability to use alcohol as a political lubricant came up repeatedly when allies and advisers were asked how she might work with Republicans. Her tale about a drinking contest with Senator John McCain of Arizona is now a Washington legend. (She said they called it quits before things got out of hand.) She believes that a relaxed, frank discussion is more authentic than trying to bond awkwardly with adversaries over sports — and more productive than keeping them at arm’s length, as Mr. Obama has often done.
“She likes to cajole, she likes to make deals, and she likes to make friends,” said Richard Socarides, a former policy adviser to Bill Clinton and a longtime supporter of Mrs. Clinton. “And she knows it’s much harder to go after someone who you basically like, who you’ve had a drink with.” [Bold added.]
In other words, hint hint hint, Hillary may have a drinking problem.
There must have been long delicate conversations in the New York Times headquarters about their institutional responsibility to at least imply to the public that Hammerin’ Hillary really likes her liquor, while still burying the news over a long weekend in an article ostensibly about something else.
Granted, as comic Jake Johannsen says when showing audiences the flask he carries in his pocket when touring, she doesn’t think her drinking is a problem, she thinks her drinking is a solution.
Meanwhile, we’re also told by the good folks at the NYT that President Obama is a night owl who prizes his alone time, and treats himself to a late night snack of seven lightly salted almonds. Not six, not eight, seven. What to make of this? At this point, what difference does it make?
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I’m scared (and elated) at what Donald Trump, the proud teetotaler, will do with this… It’s going to be hilarious.
DJT will have something more to share with Saudi diplomats.
What's the deal with the GOP that keeps foisting these tea-totalers on us? Dubya, Mitt and now Trump.
At least McCain married a beer distributor.
The puffy face gives it away. Teddy Kennedy and William Shatner are other examples. The three of them together would look like siblings.
Here's the thing, she can afford the best medical care and fitness trainers in the world. Yet she looks like s**t at her age. Extremely bloated and incapable staying on her feet for any length of time. She's in bad shape, just like the creepy husband of hers.
As for this part of the story:This is pure BS. She's a barely functional sociopath, whom I am sure is quite nice to those giving her bribes. But if you aren't one of the them, she'll stomp on you.
There are several articles describing lesbians being at higher risk of alcoholism if one web-searches it.
Why do I keep thinking that we are about to see a rerun of 1972-'74?
I didn’t realize that Obama characterized the cigarettes in his Marlboro pack as “almonds.”
Madame Preshident.
Let’s glash our raises to mash Amneshty!
It’s quite an accomplishment for Donald to have banged the number and quality of women he has while teetotaling. Many if not most have an optimal level of intoxication required to lower inhibitions and relax, especially when dealing with ultra high end beauties. Trump was doing so before he was a name and wealthy. His relative lack of a filter when speaking is most likely related to this – a more optimal level of inhibitions generally. Perhaps it goes along with being so quick on his feet – if you can listen, process, formulate excellent replies in real time, that would both eliminate need for a filter and give one a relaxed, confident nature.
I can’t imagine living with Hillary’s severe personality disorder and NOT turning to the bottle. I’m sure former Politburo members and assorted Soviet apparatchiks would sympathize quite easily with her boozy fight from reality. The vodka martinis probably dissipate the paranoia and homicidal rage. What a seriously disturbed woman she is…
Ah, th’ rifestile of th’ risch an’ flamus.
But no details on her drink of choice? My money is on her being one of those women who thinks they have to drink whisky or dark liquor to impress a man they’re drinking with…
I prefer distilled liquor to beer and wine because something about regular fermented beverages makes me feel much worse later than I do if I just have a margarita or some scotch.
Why do you focus on such trivia, while we have more serious problem right now?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-semitism-is-back-will-you-stand-by-or-stand-up_us_576bfc8be4b016c12caba9a9
We have a resurgence/insurgence of NaziTrumpWhitisFasNationaScim.
It’s serious. More serious than ever. As serious than ever.
I mean, you give a look to what Paul Graham retweets, and you know the HuffPo is right (and so are the NYT, WaPo, Slate, LATimes, PZionMedia, and the other 300 we all know).
You look at what Paul Graham Retweets in light of what he wrote in his famous “What you can’t say”, and you see it’s getting serious.
Again, re-reading the article, it seems as though virtually all of the anti-Semitic incidents involve colleges or college campuses. Nobody can claim with a straight face that conservatives, Republicans, HBDers, or the alt.right have anything to do with that.
It's true, there is a measure of anti-Semitism on the alt.right, but that has to do mostly with the belief that Jews are for unlimited immigration on the one hand and pushing the absurd SJW agenda on the other hand. I think those beliefs are erroneous and I have said so on this blog many times, and moreover there are many Jewish guys posting on this blog who are also clearly not in favor of unlimited immigration or the extended SJW agenda. Not only that, but I rarely see anyone on the right criticizing Israel.
On the other hand, to equate the level of anti-Jewish venom described in the article with silly sh*t like purported coded Jewish stars or triple parentheses is idiotic.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-semitism-is-back-will-you-stand-by-or-stand-up_us_576bfc8be4b016c12caba9a9
We have a resurgence/insurgence of NaziTrumpWhitisFasNationaScim.
It's serious. More serious than ever. As serious than ever.
I mean, you give a look to what Paul Graham retweets, and you know the HuffPo is right (and so are the NYT, WaPo, Slate, LATimes, PZionMedia, and the other 300 we all know).
You look at what Paul Graham Retweets in light of what he wrote in his famous "What you can't say", and you see it's getting serious.
You gonna stand up or stand by, Sailer?
“The Times found in its reporting on plans for Mrs. Clinton’s 100 days that that she would look to push issues that might be broadly popular, like . . . a breakthrough on immigration.”
LOL Can the Times be serious? http://goo.gl/12c4fh
LOL!
The lush always wants to get in on every toast. “Firss I gotta meet Ryan, then I gotta meet McConnell, then I gotta meet Seshuns…man, I got a lot a
drinkin’work ta do today…”According to a recent tell-all by one of Bill’s former mistresses, Hillary used to have quite a taste for cocaine as well.
I bet. What do you figure John McCain, Paul Ryan, etc., are already practicing their paeans to the coming “bipartisan comprehensive immigration solution” with a Hillary White House, soon to be followed by the ability to blame the outcome on a Hillary White House? It’s the best of both worlds!
I’m sure she’s as sober as a fifty dollar bill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_fifty-dollar_bill
Steve, have you passed any comment on the death of Michael Cimino? He seems a good example of those Italian-Americans who “sat out the Sixties,” as you put it: studying art at Yale, serving in the Army Reserve, shooting commercials for Madison Avenue. Before becoming a Hollywood iconoclast in the Seventies.
If anyone hasn't seen his work, I would recommend Thunderbolt and Lightfoot. It's Cimino minus his tendency towards bloat, and Jeff Bridges turns in an excellent performance.
Good point.
I was looking for evidence pro or con on the transgender rumors about him. No sci-fi connection, but he’s the kind of giant ego / ambition that seems to be a tell for late in life transgenderism.
OT: ‘Asian’ entrepreneur in the UK launches polygamy.com “the match.com for the UK’s polygamists”
http://www.vice.com/read/interview-polygamy-matchmaking-site-founder
There will be corresponding reductions in child support. As you accumulate more wives, any preexisting child support obligations will have to be reduced. The legal trend will treat a divorcing wife as "abandoning the [plural] marriage". Marriage may be a "partnership" but it will be a partnership of three or more people. Wife-partners who stay with the plural marriage will be able to claim child support from the divorcing wife.
I kinda figured she had to get pretty liquored up to spout off the nonsense she preaches.
Seven almonds, no more, no less.
It sounds like a description of a fussy Grand Vizier in ‘The One Thousand and One Nights.’
Of course, Steve, you understand that the implication of this NYT article is that the Republicans (and apparently many if not most of them) are the ones with a drinking problem. They imply that it is something the Republicans tend to do, and she is just being clever, using it as a way to connect and bond with them. Whether or not any of that is actually true is a different question. If it’s a typical NYT article, then probably not.
This article admits the bribe for letting Hillary off the hook: We would love for you to remain attorney general Loretta.
As is her eventual nomination to a Circuit or Supreme Court slot.
Either drinking or too many late night refrigerator raids.
He was born a rich man’s son.
OT: Occasional iSteve subject Michael Cimino (who over the course of his adult life went from looking like John Lovitz’s long-lost twin brother to looking like a wax-figure of Barry Manilow) just died.
I agree. Wouldn’t surprise me if she is a alky. It would explain her physical deterioration and general morbid obesity.
Here’s the thing, she can afford the best medical care and fitness trainers in the world. Yet she looks like s**t at her age. Extremely bloated and incapable staying on her feet for any length of time. She’s in bad shape, just like the creepy husband of hers.
As for this part of the story:
This is pure BS. She’s a barely functional sociopath, whom I am sure is quite nice to those giving her bribes. But if you aren’t one of the them, she’ll stomp on you.
anonym,…..”Trump was doing this before he was a name and wealthy.” When wasn’t Trump wealthy?
Here's the thing, she can afford the best medical care and fitness trainers in the world. Yet she looks like s**t at her age. Extremely bloated and incapable staying on her feet for any length of time. She's in bad shape, just like the creepy husband of hers.
As for this part of the story:This is pure BS. She's a barely functional sociopath, whom I am sure is quite nice to those giving her bribes. But if you aren't one of the them, she'll stomp on you.
Rod1963, “it’s harder to go after someone who you basically like, who you’ve had a drink with.” Probably more fights and violence have resulted after sharing a drink or two, ask any bartender.
Maybe Her Royal Heinous was plastered the night Benghazi went down. Hillary will jam and cram down same as Obama does with the compliant Republican leadership. Anyways, this has got to be one of stoopidist articles from the NY Times.
In my Washington days I had heard Ms. Clinton likes to drink but never heard anyone say they had seen her out of control. In contrast, the woman who was initially floated as her Senate replacement, Carolyn Maloney (D-Manhattan) was a pathetic drunk who my wife and I would encounter periodically staggering around Capitol Hill late at night when we were walking the dog.
Here's the thing, she can afford the best medical care and fitness trainers in the world. Yet she looks like s**t at her age. Extremely bloated and incapable staying on her feet for any length of time. She's in bad shape, just like the creepy husband of hers.
As for this part of the story:This is pure BS. She's a barely functional sociopath, whom I am sure is quite nice to those giving her bribes. But if you aren't one of the them, she'll stomp on you.
Great observation. Furthermore, loading booze on top of her cumadin and thyroid meds is going to take it’s toll sooner, rather than later. I’m amazed the woman is still functional. Her liver must look like an old ballet slipper. Her brain, like an ancient lava lamp.
Hillary is very wide around the middle and getting wider due to the stress of campaigning. She drapes long long jackets down past her middle in an attempt to hide this. Her trusty K-Mart pantsuits are not up to the job anymore.
Her face does not reflect how damn fat she is getting. Especially with the professional makeup job she gets for all public appearances and the lighting she tries to get. And her team tries to limit photos to head shots.
Good photo of fatso Hillary https://goo.gl/mkaRJb
I am hip to the trick of draping over the midsection because my sister was doing it. Then she lost 50 lbs and stopped. And for those who care, Hillary’s big problem is her thyroid.
Trigger warning:
http://i.imgur.com/dlxPs05.jpg
Funny, I imagined she’d follow Bill’s approach; bond over an underage sex orgy on Jeffrey Epstein’s island.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-semitism-is-back-will-you-stand-by-or-stand-up_us_576bfc8be4b016c12caba9a9
We have a resurgence/insurgence of NaziTrumpWhitisFasNationaScim.
It's serious. More serious than ever. As serious than ever.
I mean, you give a look to what Paul Graham retweets, and you know the HuffPo is right (and so are the NYT, WaPo, Slate, LATimes, PZionMedia, and the other 300 we all know).
You look at what Paul Graham Retweets in light of what he wrote in his famous "What you can't say", and you see it's getting serious.
Yes, there is some serious anti-Semitism out there. Most of it, especially on college campuses, comes from the left (as with Joy Karega of Oberlin), and most of it is “validated” as criticism of Israel. On the other hand, since iSteve is not critical of Israel nor on the left, what, exactly is he supposed to say? That he is not critical of Israel or on the left?
Again, re-reading the article, it seems as though virtually all of the anti-Semitic incidents involve colleges or college campuses. Nobody can claim with a straight face that conservatives, Republicans, HBDers, or the alt.right have anything to do with that.
It’s true, there is a measure of anti-Semitism on the alt.right, but that has to do mostly with the belief that Jews are for unlimited immigration on the one hand and pushing the absurd SJW agenda on the other hand. I think those beliefs are erroneous and I have said so on this blog many times, and moreover there are many Jewish guys posting on this blog who are also clearly not in favor of unlimited immigration or the extended SJW agenda. Not only that, but I rarely see anyone on the right criticizing Israel.
On the other hand, to equate the level of anti-Jewish venom described in the article with silly sh*t like purported coded Jewish stars or triple parentheses is idiotic.
To rephrase Burke, all that is necessary for bad Jews to triumph is for good Jews to do nothing. Does that seem like a fair thing to say? The idea being that Ashkenazi Americans, the most gifted ones, of which there are many, can be and often are extraordinarily influential members of society for good or ill. Go Stephen Miller!
How many hideous women and lesbians will be in a President Hillary’s Cabinet? Bill had quite a few.
I find the discussion of alcohol here pretty mysterious.
If the intention of the article was to broach the issue of Hillary’s drinking problem, why would her friends and allies be themselves emphasizing her use of alcohol?
My own guess is that the point of bringing it up is to make Hillary look like an ordinary, Josie-Six-Pack kind of girl that everyone one can relate to, even Joe-Six-Pack, instead of the rigid, controlling, arrogant, bossy harpy of legend.
She can’t be rigid or frigid — she uses lubricant!
Is anyone seriously objecting to her alleged use of drugs or alcohol? Listen, I hate the Clinton’s, but booze and dope are personal decisions. It’s their decisions that affect me to which I object. I do believe they are great users and partiers, because it’s the only area where they don’t seem hypocritical. Full disclosure, I have been there and done that, so I may be more tolerant than y’all.
Use of alcohol? No. Overuse of alcohol? Yes. Use of drugs, like cocaine? Yes.
"Listen, I hate the Clinton’s, but booze and dope are personal decisions."
They are not private people. Nobody just gets to be President. Their personal moral decisions are relevant. Heavy cocaine use can - so I've heard - make people paranoid. Do I think someone with that history should have supreme authority over a nuclear arsenal? No.
Any mention of peacock tongues? A real Emperor snacks on peacock tongue . As usual, Barry be play-pimpin. Real Black folks must be laughing their asses off at reporting like this.
Didn’t John Tower lose out on becoming Bush 41′s Defense Secretary because he liked to drink too much?
If you can’t have a SecDef who’s a lush, then how can you defend having an alcoholic POTUS?
Fun alt-history what if – If Tower does become Defense Secretary in 1989, what does that do to Dick Cheney’s career trajectory. Who is the much less interventionist VP in the Bush 43 admin?
John Tower was amazingly, over the top corrupt, even by DC standards at the time, to the point where he would have been a serious national security risk as Defense Secretary (of course the same could be said of Clinton). DC likes to come up with personal behavior as an excuse to remove politicians, when the actual reasons can't be made public. They try to hide how corrupt these guys are. I am old enough to remember the Tower confirmation and it was even pointed out, in mainstream media, at the time that the personal stuff was being used as a cover for the fact that they guy was just too corrupt for the job.
Historically -and I agree with Dr. Kill- politics is one trade where drunks can function quite effectively. Politicians and alcohol run the gamut from Lincoln, who abstained from alcohol, to drunks such as his contemporary the Canadian Prime Minster MacDonald. But the thing is there seems to be no obvious impact to effectiveness/ statesmanship or the lack thereof. It has to get to the point where the politician is likely to keel over dead suddenly for there to be a real problem.
Yes. I used to drink a lot but after starting thyroid medication for my autoimmune condition, I cannot tolerate much alcohol. (Two drinks max, which I will feel the effects of for hours.) Her body has to be in horrific shape.
Yet with her insane schedule she is able to tolerate contact lenses. That’s tough!
Quite apart from Hillary’s loathsome personality and evil character, she really doesn’t look physically healthy enough to be POTUS.
Surely I can’t be alone in fantasizing that she has some sort of seizure or attack in public that would make it undeniably clear she’s unfit to hold office. Spittle flying, eyes rolling back in her head, spreading wetness at her crotch–the full works.
Unfortunately I’m sure that worst case scenario has already occurred to her and her team. I’m she’s medicated and monitored constantly to prevent that disaster.
But I can dream, can’t I?
Good bet Hillary is well diapered too.
Janet Reno tops the list.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mount+carmel+center+monument+&view=detailv2&id=18555A5E7D33430D427D20DACAAC08434E2C53F5&selectedindex=4&ccid=5vnaPy89&simid=608018678402647258&thid=OIP.Me6f9da3f2f3d413900779c139539ce50o0&mode=overlay&first=1
A. Because Janet Reno is her dad.
Surely I can't be alone in fantasizing that she has some sort of seizure or attack in public that would make it undeniably clear she's unfit to hold office. Spittle flying, eyes rolling back in her head, spreading wetness at her crotch--the full works.
Unfortunately I'm sure that worst case scenario has already occurred to her and her team. I'm she's medicated and monitored constantly to prevent that disaster.
But I can dream, can't I?
It’s pretty obvious by now that Hillary will be finished by the first presidential debate. The moment the cameras zoom in on her hideous face, that’s it. While cameras love Trump, they will show Hillary for what she is: a shrivelled old lesbian, prematurely senile, in poor health, a hideous pathetic creature doped up to the gills to remain semi-functional. The Dem camp is desperate cause they know Trump will just sweep the floor with the old harpy without even trying, just by showing up and being his charismatic self.
Q. Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
A. Because Janet Reno is her dad.
Again, re-reading the article, it seems as though virtually all of the anti-Semitic incidents involve colleges or college campuses. Nobody can claim with a straight face that conservatives, Republicans, HBDers, or the alt.right have anything to do with that.
It's true, there is a measure of anti-Semitism on the alt.right, but that has to do mostly with the belief that Jews are for unlimited immigration on the one hand and pushing the absurd SJW agenda on the other hand. I think those beliefs are erroneous and I have said so on this blog many times, and moreover there are many Jewish guys posting on this blog who are also clearly not in favor of unlimited immigration or the extended SJW agenda. Not only that, but I rarely see anyone on the right criticizing Israel.
On the other hand, to equate the level of anti-Jewish venom described in the article with silly sh*t like purported coded Jewish stars or triple parentheses is idiotic.
“It’s true, there is a measure of anti-Semitism on the alt.right, but that has to do mostly with the belief that Jews are for unlimited immigration on the one hand and pushing the absurd SJW agenda on the other hand. I think those beliefs are erroneous and I have said so on this blog many times, and moreover there are many Jewish guys posting on this blog who are also clearly not in favor of unlimited immigration or the extended SJW agenda.”
To rephrase Burke, all that is necessary for bad Jews to triumph is for good Jews to do nothing. Does that seem like a fair thing to say? The idea being that Ashkenazi Americans, the most gifted ones, of which there are many, can be and often are extraordinarily influential members of society for good or ill. Go Stephen Miller!
Probably anything on hand at the moment.
Well, his dream project was a Fountainhead remake, and interest in Ayn Rand is never a good sign….
King Vidor's Fountainhead is one of the best bad movies ever made.
There’s also an interesting streak of conservatism in his work. The Deer Hunter, for example, has an almost John Fordian reverence for social rituals (cf the wedding scene).
If anyone hasn’t seen his work, I would recommend Thunderbolt and Lightfoot. It’s Cimino minus his tendency towards bloat, and Jeff Bridges turns in an excellent performance.
Totally off topic, but might appeal to you.
Some of the elites have expressed concern about the potential for AI to destroy humanity.
Nick Cole, in Ctrl Alt Reboot has an interesting take:
https://www.amazon.com/CTRL-ALT-Revolt-Nick-Cole-ebook/dp/B01BKWKBCS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467602190&sr=8-1&keywords=ctrl+alt+revolt
And it’s only $0.99 on a Kindle in the bargain.
There is the main point.
Bill is going to show up with his thoughts.
Bill is going to be the one schmoozing people.
A guy my husband knows describes Bill thus, he was the kind of guy you could get along with. He was pleasant to have beer with and talk to at bar b ques etc., but the wife was a b****.
This is going to be Bill’s third term.
She is a former first lady and totally incompetent Sec. of State. No one respects her. No one wants to have a drink with her! Of course, they wouldn’t mind a beer and some White House snacks and chat with Bill.
She wants folks to come over and talk to Bill. His health is poor and he doesn’t get out as much. They could talk behind closed doors yada yada.
Hillary is Ma Ferguson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miriam_A._Ferguson
Usually someone who has been drinking to excess for a long while doesn’t eat properly and is thin.
To rephrase Burke, all that is necessary for bad Jews to triumph is for good Jews to do nothing. Does that seem like a fair thing to say? The idea being that Ashkenazi Americans, the most gifted ones, of which there are many, can be and often are extraordinarily influential members of society for good or ill. Go Stephen Miller!
We younger American Ashkenazi Jews are failing to live up to potential in the opinions of Messrs. Unz and Reed. In the future, the most gifted will probably be Asian. Regardless, even in the here and now only elite and connected Jews have the potential for national influence. In smaller Jewish community settings, politically conservative Jews get shut down almost immediately by the far more numerous liberal Jews who aren’t remotely eager to hear what the conservatives have to say. That’s why I have nothing to do with my local Jewish community. Better to be a recluse than actively hated.
This is only true in secular or Reform Jewish communities. In Orthodox communities, conservatives are the majority.
Maybe this won't be popular on an anti-immigrant blog, but the energy that Jews once displayed and that Asians are displaying now is a form of immigrant energy - the 1st couple of generations in the US traditionally rise like rockets on the cooped up energy that has been bottled up in the homeland. Even before Jews arrived, we used to see this in the US with Scotsmen, Germans, etc. The Asians who are winning those math competitions are all 1st and 2nd generation immigrants and Jews in the US have run out of immigrants. We are confused now because Mestizo Hispanics don't display much energy (immigrant or otherwise) so we forget what it was like.
I had never thought of that.
I prefer distilled liquor to beer and wine because something about regular fermented beverages makes me feel much worse later than I do if I just have a margarita or some scotch.
Until they develop cirrhosis and ascites.
Well, at least she doesn’t smoke!
It’s a shame tobacco gets such a bad rap. Unlike alcohol, it relaxes you without intoxication; unlike coffee, it focuses your mind without sending your heart into palpitations.
As for the heart, are you really going to claim that smoking tobacco isn't bad for the heart?
I'll add this: it's a shame that MARIJUANA gets such a bad rap. For one thing, a regular pot smoker can smoke a LOT less than a regular tobacco smoker. There are also a wide range of edible cannabis products, so the pot fan can echew smoking entirely, which I don't believe the tobacco/nicotine-addict can.
“Is anyone seriously objecting to her alleged use of drugs or alcohol?”
Use of alcohol? No. Overuse of alcohol? Yes. Use of drugs, like cocaine? Yes.
“Listen, I hate the Clinton’s, but booze and dope are personal decisions.”
They are not private people. Nobody just gets to be President. Their personal moral decisions are relevant. Heavy cocaine use can – so I’ve heard – make people paranoid. Do I think someone with that history should have supreme authority over a nuclear arsenal? No.
By Marlboros I believe you mean men. Packs and gaggles of men.
Bill is going to show up with his thoughts.
Bill is going to be the one schmoozing people.
A guy my husband knows describes Bill thus, he was the kind of guy you could get along with. He was pleasant to have beer with and talk to at bar b ques etc., but the wife was a b****.
This is going to be Bill's third term.
She is a former first lady and totally incompetent Sec. of State. No one respects her. No one wants to have a drink with her! Of course, they wouldn't mind a beer and some White House snacks and chat with Bill.
She wants folks to come over and talk to Bill. His health is poor and he doesn't get out as much. They could talk behind closed doors yada yada.
Hillary is Ma Ferguson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miriam_A._Ferguson
“Bill is going to show up with his thoughts.
Bill is going to be the one schmoozing people.”
Recently, Bill looks vacant a lot of the time. Dementia, perhaps? Maybe the result of all those venereal diseases.
Postperfusion syndrome, also known as "pumphead", is a constellation of neurocognitive impairments attributed to cardiopulmonary bypass (CPB) during cardiac surgery. Symptoms of postperfusion syndrome are subtle and include defects associated with attention, concentration, short term memory, fine motor function, and speed of mental and motor responses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postperfusion_syndrome
Not long afterwards, Micheal Douglas announced that he had throat cancer. I thought, "oh my god. I wonder if..."
Later, he confirmed that he suspected his throat cancer was related to oral sex with his wife. I thought, "well... you can't really blame him, it's Katherine Zeta Jones, for godssake, but still..."
That made a belieber out of me!
I'm lazy, so here's a cut and paste job off the internets regarding oral sex and alzheimer's, supporting the idea that Clinton is probably on the exit ramp to Looneytown:
There will be no beer summit.
DJT will have something more to share with Saudi diplomats.
What’s the deal with the GOP that keeps foisting these tea-totalers on us? Dubya, Mitt and now Trump.
At least McCain married a beer distributor.
Smoking makes your heart work harder by narrowing the blood vessels. Research from UCSF ca. 1958.
The cirrhosis and ascites can cause their abdomens to swell while the rest of their bodies remain scrawny.
A fair point to be sure, yet he is still 10x more pleasant than she!
No, otherwise beer belly wouldn’t be a thing.
All the alkies that I’ve known have been overweight. There are a lot of empty carbs in booze.
That’s a good thing?
The internet disagrees: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nicotine+heart+palpitations&t=ffsb&ia=web
Pumphead syndrome is my guess:
Postperfusion syndrome, also known as “pumphead”, is a constellation of neurocognitive impairments attributed to cardiopulmonary bypass (CPB) during cardiac surgery. Symptoms of postperfusion syndrome are subtle and include defects associated with attention, concentration, short term memory, fine motor function, and speed of mental and motor responses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postperfusion_syndrome
For instance, the old Bill would never have boarded a private plane for a 'chance encounter' with the Attorney General. I doubt if Hillary would be so tone deaf as to suggest such a gormless move but maybe she did. It would be a shame if she's aware of his growing disability but keeps on putting him out there anyway.
Bill Clinton seems to have had some brain damage due to his heart surgery. The condition is called “post bypass surgery cognitive dysfunction” or “pump head.”
“In smaller Jewish community settings, politically conservative Jews get shut down almost immediately by the far more numerous liberal Jews who aren’t remotely eager to hear what the conservatives have to say. ”
This is only true in secular or Reform Jewish communities. In Orthodox communities, conservatives are the majority.
There’s an assumption that Bill wants her to be elected. But I doubt whether the old horndog relishes the prospect of a stint of four or eight years as First Husband.
True enough.
Postperfusion syndrome, also known as "pumphead", is a constellation of neurocognitive impairments attributed to cardiopulmonary bypass (CPB) during cardiac surgery. Symptoms of postperfusion syndrome are subtle and include defects associated with attention, concentration, short term memory, fine motor function, and speed of mental and motor responses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postperfusion_syndrome
That’s a possibility too. I’ve heard speculation that Cheney (who’s on a loaner heart) may have had pump-head as well, and that it might explain his behavior, although that evil old bastard seems to be more with it than Clinton is.
So would it be fair to say that he's an "owner of a loaner heart"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVOuYquXuuc
Surely I can't be alone in fantasizing that she has some sort of seizure or attack in public that would make it undeniably clear she's unfit to hold office. Spittle flying, eyes rolling back in her head, spreading wetness at her crotch--the full works.
Unfortunately I'm sure that worst case scenario has already occurred to her and her team. I'm she's medicated and monitored constantly to prevent that disaster.
But I can dream, can't I?
I was watching a video of Chrissie Hynde onstage-lepoard print spandex pants, big T shirt and Telecaster-with a female (and quite raunchy minded) friend and commented that the front of her pants looked a little bulging. She said, “Look, that’s incontinent wear. Probably half the female population over 50 is wearing them now for any public event, since now they are so light, and there’s no reason to pee yourself in public. A lot of women let out a little inadvertently at that age, especially if they’ve given birth. It’s no big deal.”
Good bet Hillary is well diapered too.
This is only true in secular or Reform Jewish communities. In Orthodox communities, conservatives are the majority.
Are Orthodox Jewish conservatives immigration restrictionists? That is one aspect of my conservatism that I suspect would be unpopular in Orthodox Jewish settings as well as non-Orthodox Jewish settings.
You probably also have to be a lot more pro-Israel than you actually are. (I still tend to favor them over the Palestinians, but the USA comes first--one thing I like about Trump.)
I've touched on this and am curious to see what people who actually had firsthand experience with the Jewish community think--if you don't want to go marching in Pride parades or actually try to obey all 613 commandments, what are your options? (Apart from just converting to Christianity or being nonreligious.) Christians have a much huger range of denominations to choose from.
Thin people generally have eating disorders.
and fat people have ....?
Lack of excess body fat doesn't betoken an eating disorder. It is, or at least was, normal.
A long time ago, my best friend, who is a physician, gave me the advice to avoid oral sex as much as possible. Appalled, I inquired as to why. He said the human vagina was nature’s sewer, licking a public toilet was safer in the long run, than oral sex, and that the chances of getting oral cancer shot up tremendously, as well as alzheimer’s(!).
Not long afterwards, Micheal Douglas announced that he had throat cancer. I thought, “oh my god. I wonder if…”
Later, he confirmed that he suspected his throat cancer was related to oral sex with his wife. I thought, “well… you can’t really blame him, it’s Katherine Zeta Jones, for godssake, but still…”
That made a belieber out of me!
I’m lazy, so here’s a cut and paste job off the internets regarding oral sex and alzheimer’s, supporting the idea that Clinton is probably on the exit ramp to Looneytown:
United Artists passed on Cimino’s Fountainhead, but jumped at the chance to make his Heaven’s Gate. We’ll never know how things might have worked out had they greenlit the former and not the latter.
King Vidor’s Fountainhead is one of the best bad movies ever made.
Along with two other so bad they're good movies he directed around that time: Beyond the Forest and Duel in the Sun.
Bill is going to show up with his thoughts.
Bill is going to be the one schmoozing people.
A guy my husband knows describes Bill thus, he was the kind of guy you could get along with. He was pleasant to have beer with and talk to at bar b ques etc., but the wife was a b****.
This is going to be Bill's third term.
She is a former first lady and totally incompetent Sec. of State. No one respects her. No one wants to have a drink with her! Of course, they wouldn't mind a beer and some White House snacks and chat with Bill.
She wants folks to come over and talk to Bill. His health is poor and he doesn't get out as much. They could talk behind closed doors yada yada.
Hillary is Ma Ferguson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miriam_A._Ferguson
A Hillary Clinton Presidency that is Bill Clinton’s third term is her best (if sotto voce) argument. I think it was fairly explicit back in 2008, but less so today, especially since Bill does not look all that good either. Trouble is, I think Hillary is so damned egotistical that she really would try to have her own administration. In the event of her disability, the nation would likely be in for a behind-the scenes government troika of Bill Clinton, Chelsey Mezvinsky and Huma Abedin.
Some of the elites have expressed concern about the potential for AI to destroy humanity.
Nick Cole, in Ctrl Alt Reboot has an interesting take:
https://www.amazon.com/CTRL-ALT-Revolt-Nick-Cole-ebook/dp/B01BKWKBCS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467602190&sr=8-1&keywords=ctrl+alt+revolt
And it's only $0.99 on a Kindle in the bargain.
Mankind is already screwed, thanks to the dumbness and evilness of those same elites. When Skynet kills us all, she’ll be doing us a favor.
One day, long after our bones have crumbled into dust, cockroaches will have opposable thumbs and build condos on the Moon.
What’s your cut?
King Vidor's Fountainhead is one of the best bad movies ever made.
“King Vidor’s Fountainhead is one of the best bad movies ever made.”
Along with two other so bad they’re good movies he directed around that time: Beyond the Forest and Duel in the Sun.
I imagine her drink of choice is”more”.
gin is b!tch whiskey
Let’s face it, it sounds faggy.
IIRC, he was in a military academy high school, and was very concerned about not being seen with less than attractive dates. His father may have been moderately wealthy but Donald was not yet at that time.
“I do believe they are great users and partiers, because it’s the only area where they don’t seem hypocritical. ” Your average recreational user isn’t running “The War on Drugs ” . Seems more than a little hypocritical to me.
I look at this as a feature, not a bug, as it might show some sign of humanity in a person who is otherwise a soulless black hole.
Hillary suddenly feels more human and relatable.
So Hillary is drunk dialing small children? Is this to feature her human side?
Capitol Hill Clinton is the Madmanchurian candidate? She drinks senators under the table like Karen Allen in Raiders of the Lost Ark? Or Dean Wormer’s wife? “Come on, I’ll buy you a drink. You know, a drink?”
It’s probably more accepted. Of course, you’re in trouble if they catch you driving on Saturday.
You probably also have to be a lot more pro-Israel than you actually are. (I still tend to favor them over the Palestinians, but the USA comes first–one thing I like about Trump.)
I’ve touched on this and am curious to see what people who actually had firsthand experience with the Jewish community think–if you don’t want to go marching in Pride parades or actually try to obey all 613 commandments, what are your options? (Apart from just converting to Christianity or being nonreligious.) Christians have a much huger range of denominations to choose from.
Again, re-reading the article, it seems as though virtually all of the anti-Semitic incidents involve colleges or college campuses. Nobody can claim with a straight face that conservatives, Republicans, HBDers, or the alt.right have anything to do with that.
It's true, there is a measure of anti-Semitism on the alt.right, but that has to do mostly with the belief that Jews are for unlimited immigration on the one hand and pushing the absurd SJW agenda on the other hand. I think those beliefs are erroneous and I have said so on this blog many times, and moreover there are many Jewish guys posting on this blog who are also clearly not in favor of unlimited immigration or the extended SJW agenda. Not only that, but I rarely see anyone on the right criticizing Israel.
On the other hand, to equate the level of anti-Jewish venom described in the article with silly sh*t like purported coded Jewish stars or triple parentheses is idiotic.
When I posted on the 6 pointed star thread, I was taken aback at the level of venom that was displayed by some. If you are trying to tell people that they are overreacting and at the same time evincing the very thing that raises their concern, I would call that “sending mixed messages”.
The kind of stuff described in the article looked pretty anti-Semitic to me, and that included the attacks on Jewish political candidates and bloggers, which almost certainly came from the right. On the other hand, the satiric use of anti-Jewish stereotypes has a long tradition, and is not necessarily used to generate hatred of Jews, although at times it can be used to ruffle Jewish feathers. The same sort of thing is done to Christian denominations on a regular basis. I mean, not all Catholic priests are pedophiles .....
We just have to admit that Jewish and non-Jewish sensibilities are not going to be the same, or at any rate, not all the time. I don't think Dracula movies (to take a trivial example) are anti-Semitic, but I have Jewish friends who find them uncomfortable. I know why they think that way, but I don't feel it, and if they harped on it (or harped on something else that makes them uncomfortable, like Wagner or Mel Gibson) I'd just avoid bringing it up. Why? Because I don't want to fight with them.
But this is a political campaign, so confrontation is unavoidable. If someone says that "X" is a "classic anti-Semitic trope" and I don't think so, I'm going to say so. If I feel that Trump's candidacy is at stake or if I think that Trump is Our Last Great Hope (which I don't) then I will be even more vociferous in my reaction, and that's characteristic of a lot of pushback about this picture. I think Jewish Americans have to recognize that when non-Jewish Americans argue with them, strongly disagree with them, or even mock them concerning X, Y, or Z, it doesn't mean that non-Jewish Americans hate them, or deny their humanity, let alone that they want to persecute them, or kill them.
I think Jews in America should be more wary of people and politicians who are always bending over backward to pay lip service to Jewish concerns, not because of honest agreement, but merely to curry favor, as opposed to those who will disagree with Jewish concerns and are forthright and honest about the grounds for their disagreement. The latter is to me far preferable because then at least you can find a common ground and work from there.
King Vidor's Fountainhead is one of the best bad movies ever made.
Vidor was an interesting figure–sort of an earlier Milius. Steve might have some fun doing a post on him as an example of a conservative movie director. He was even a member of the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals, which I never even knew was a thing.
Even if you chew nicotine gum, it’s still bad for your circulatory system.
If anyone hasn't seen his work, I would recommend Thunderbolt and Lightfoot. It's Cimino minus his tendency towards bloat, and Jeff Bridges turns in an excellent performance.
+1 on Thunderbolt and Lightfoot. Saw it when it first came out and still remember it.
KKXXRRKK UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR CHARGES OF RACISM
Kkxxrrkk, the present candidate for President of the United States of Xrk, is presently being investigated over charges he expressed a view in a private discussion that ‘brown cockroaches stink’, that ‘they use only the worst dung because that’s all they can get’, and that ‘they lay too many eggs without foraging enough to make sure they can support them’.
This is viewed by the Brown Cockroach Association as an unacceptable racial slur. ‘Tan cockroaches have had all the best dung from day one’, spokesman Xkkrk said. ‘Kkxxrrkk is insensitive’, she said, clicking her mandibles in protest. ‘We demand an apology’.
> I’ve heard speculation that Cheney (who’s on a loaner heart) may have had pump-head as well
So would it be fair to say that he’s an “owner of a loaner heart”?
Well they show people turning into reptiles, so - yes (or should I say YES) - that's a fitting song for Dick Cheney.
I recently attend graduation at a well known tech school located in Massachusetts because of a family connection. It’s absolutely true that members of the tribe were thin on the ground compared to Asians. Engineering was never a particularly Jewish field to begin with – it tends to appeal to non-verbal thinkers and if Ashkenazi Jews are anything, they are highly verbal. But I looked at the list of senior honors and under the category “Most Creative Inventions” or something like that, there were a disproportionate number of -bergs, etc. Now I don’t know whether this was a consolation prize along the lines of “Miss Congeniality” at beauty contest, but I offer it up as a data point.
Maybe this won’t be popular on an anti-immigrant blog, but the energy that Jews once displayed and that Asians are displaying now is a form of immigrant energy – the 1st couple of generations in the US traditionally rise like rockets on the cooped up energy that has been bottled up in the homeland. Even before Jews arrived, we used to see this in the US with Scotsmen, Germans, etc. The Asians who are winning those math competitions are all 1st and 2nd generation immigrants and Jews in the US have run out of immigrants. We are confused now because Mestizo Hispanics don’t display much energy (immigrant or otherwise) so we forget what it was like.
While this was indeed the pattern exhibited in the USA, I think immigration is just an artifact of Emancipation. The Jews who stayed in Hungary, Germany etc did extraordinarily well for themselves too (at least until the unfortunate events of 1933-45). In all likelihood we will see a quasi-emancipation of ultra-Orthodox youth in the next couple of decades too as ultra-Ortho economic model is not sustainable long term.
Sometimes things are stable for a thousand years, sometimes for a century, sometimes for a few decades.
In a global depression, all bets are off.
You probably also have to be a lot more pro-Israel than you actually are. (I still tend to favor them over the Palestinians, but the USA comes first--one thing I like about Trump.)
I've touched on this and am curious to see what people who actually had firsthand experience with the Jewish community think--if you don't want to go marching in Pride parades or actually try to obey all 613 commandments, what are your options? (Apart from just converting to Christianity or being nonreligious.) Christians have a much huger range of denominations to choose from.
I don’t think that there is a lot available. The Orthodox are socially conservative but they are not really interested in politics except insofar as it impacts either their own local community (they love to participate in big city political spoils systems and get subsidized housing,etc.) or Israel. Mainstream Reform and Conservative congregations are just as liberal/leftist as mainstream Christian Protestant denominations (Episcopalian, Unitarian, etc.) There is not a lot in between.
Along with two other so bad they're good movies he directed around that time: Beyond the Forest and Duel in the Sun.
Beyond the Forest is definitely a must-see bad movie.
I still remember the first time I saw Beyond the Forest. I was an impressionable teen apt to think any movie starring Bette Davis was good. That movie was a very steep learning curve.
Other So Bad They're Good favorites:
The Big Knife
The Oscar
The Specter of the Rose
Strange Interlude
Golden Boy
Sirk movies don't count. He used melodrama to explore social issues. Interestingly, commenters on his You Tube clips understand that and discuss those issues. Valley of the Dolls and similar movies don't count because they were intended to be really really bad.
Booze eh? Yet another characteristic in common with Nixon. All that’s missing is the scowl.
Why do I keep thinking that we are about to see a rerun of 1972-’74?
I was saying the other day that this reminded me of 1972. I was for McGovern then and got a lot of kidding, both before the election and even more after the election from the powers that be where I worked.
When the dust settled, Watergate erupted, and the walls came tumbling down, I was able to inform my tormentors that if I'd know how much fun Nixon's second term would have been, I'd have voted for him myself.
I think Hillary will be even better.
He looks like he has AIDS.
“Didn’t John Tower lose out on becoming Bush 41′s Defense Secretary because he liked to drink too much?”
John Tower was amazingly, over the top corrupt, even by DC standards at the time, to the point where he would have been a serious national security risk as Defense Secretary (of course the same could be said of Clinton). DC likes to come up with personal behavior as an excuse to remove politicians, when the actual reasons can’t be made public. They try to hide how corrupt these guys are. I am old enough to remember the Tower confirmation and it was even pointed out, in mainstream media, at the time that the personal stuff was being used as a cover for the fact that they guy was just too corrupt for the job.
Historically -and I agree with Dr. Kill- politics is one trade where drunks can function quite effectively. Politicians and alcohol run the gamut from Lincoln, who abstained from alcohol, to drunks such as his contemporary the Canadian Prime Minster MacDonald. But the thing is there seems to be no obvious impact to effectiveness/ statesmanship or the lack thereof. It has to get to the point where the politician is likely to keel over dead suddenly for there to be a real problem.
Great catch.
Well, fair enough, but I would suggest that most of that venom came from people who felt that Trump was being unfairly maligned. To me, the issue was whether that particular picture was anti-Semitic in a classic sense and worth getting excited about. What I know is: (1) whatever anti-Jewish import of that picture, it went right over my head, (2) the guy who created it is a satirist, and I looked over his material and didn’t find any “trend” against Jews, (3) the use of the six pointed star didn’t appear decisive to me, and I can’t say for sure that he was attacking Jews.
The kind of stuff described in the article looked pretty anti-Semitic to me, and that included the attacks on Jewish political candidates and bloggers, which almost certainly came from the right. On the other hand, the satiric use of anti-Jewish stereotypes has a long tradition, and is not necessarily used to generate hatred of Jews, although at times it can be used to ruffle Jewish feathers. The same sort of thing is done to Christian denominations on a regular basis. I mean, not all Catholic priests are pedophiles …..
We just have to admit that Jewish and non-Jewish sensibilities are not going to be the same, or at any rate, not all the time. I don’t think Dracula movies (to take a trivial example) are anti-Semitic, but I have Jewish friends who find them uncomfortable. I know why they think that way, but I don’t feel it, and if they harped on it (or harped on something else that makes them uncomfortable, like Wagner or Mel Gibson) I’d just avoid bringing it up. Why? Because I don’t want to fight with them.
But this is a political campaign, so confrontation is unavoidable. If someone says that “X” is a “classic anti-Semitic trope” and I don’t think so, I’m going to say so. If I feel that Trump’s candidacy is at stake or if I think that Trump is Our Last Great Hope (which I don’t) then I will be even more vociferous in my reaction, and that’s characteristic of a lot of pushback about this picture. I think Jewish Americans have to recognize that when non-Jewish Americans argue with them, strongly disagree with them, or even mock them concerning X, Y, or Z, it doesn’t mean that non-Jewish Americans hate them, or deny their humanity, let alone that they want to persecute them, or kill them.
I think Jews in America should be more wary of people and politicians who are always bending over backward to pay lip service to Jewish concerns, not because of honest agreement, but merely to curry favor, as opposed to those who will disagree with Jewish concerns and are forthright and honest about the grounds for their disagreement. The latter is to me far preferable because then at least you can find a common ground and work from there.
It's just a cigar.
I took a lengthy online political quiz the other day covering a lot of areas, which then compares the results to the various candidate positions. As expected, I scored my highest match by far with Trump, followed next by the libertarian candidate, and the worst match with virtually no agreement was with Hillary (I actually scored a slightly higher match to Sanders than her). From what I remember, about the only things I agreed with her on, that Trump didn’t, was that the gov’t should sponsor space research and exploration, and that we should be overall lowering the national debt, not increasing it.
Oh my gosh, yes!
I still remember the first time I saw Beyond the Forest. I was an impressionable teen apt to think any movie starring Bette Davis was good. That movie was a very steep learning curve.
Other So Bad They’re Good favorites:
The Big Knife
The Oscar
The Specter of the Rose
Strange Interlude
Golden Boy
Sirk movies don’t count. He used melodrama to explore social issues. Interestingly, commenters on his You Tube clips understand that and discuss those issues. Valley of the Dolls and similar movies don’t count because they were intended to be really really bad.
Don't forget Vincente Minnelli's The Bad and the Beautiful and his later follow-up, Two Weeks in Another Town.
It’s not the number 1 issue for them , but it still commands majority support I think.
Orthodox Jews care primarily about the welfare of Orthodox Jews. While all the major Jewish organizations are for more immigration, your average Orthodox Jew does not want to be around more blacks, Mexicans and Muslims, but they are rarely politically engaged on the issue of immigration restriction (seeing that Jews may well need refugee status in some first-world country). Most Orthodox Jews will vote for Donald Trump (about 70%), but few of them will be passionate about it (as the Orthodox Jewish criteria is what is good for Orthodox Jews). Most Orthodox Jews are skeptical of Donald Trump but hate Hillary. I have not met in person an Orthodox Jew passionately pro-Trump, but neither have I met an Orthodox Jew who supports Hillary.
I am completely out of the closet in the Orthodox Jewish community with my political leanings (race realism, HBD, immigration restriction, Alt-Right). I would say that the primary reaction I get is one of amusement. Traditional Orthodox Jews (aside from some of their leaders) are rarely offended by “racism.” There’s no Torah category of “racism.” When Trump clinched the Republican nomination, some Orthodox Jews called me “navi” (prophet) because I predicted that last August (and that Trump will become president).
Orthodox Jews read the LA Times, NY Times, watch Fox News, like everyone and that shapes their views.
You probably also have to be a lot more pro-Israel than you actually are. (I still tend to favor them over the Palestinians, but the USA comes first--one thing I like about Trump.)
I've touched on this and am curious to see what people who actually had firsthand experience with the Jewish community think--if you don't want to go marching in Pride parades or actually try to obey all 613 commandments, what are your options? (Apart from just converting to Christianity or being nonreligious.) Christians have a much huger range of denominations to choose from.
This is true, but there are a number of communities that are largely Orthodox in sensibility, but “live and let live” in terms of practice. Also most Sephardic communities are broad spectrum in terms of observance but Orthodox in terms of norms/sensibility (This is somewhat less true than previously, due to the influence of ultra-Orthodox Ashkenazi teachers and Rabbis, but still largely accurate).
With most Jews, your political views won’t have any affect on your personal popularity. You will be treated according to your merits. If you are a loser, you will be treated like a loser. Similar social rules at work in the larger society govern also in Jewish life (if you like people and they like you, you will do well everywhere, if you are anxious and prickly, you will struggle everywhere). Goyim divide up on beliefs (about abortion, politics, religion, etc), Jews divide up over whether or not you are in the tribe. If you are a Jew, you are going to be welcomed into most synagogues. They will be glad to have you, whatever your beliefs (unless they are in the divinity of Jesus Christ). If you sponsor a nice kiddush, you will be assured of popularity.
The kind of stuff described in the article looked pretty anti-Semitic to me, and that included the attacks on Jewish political candidates and bloggers, which almost certainly came from the right. On the other hand, the satiric use of anti-Jewish stereotypes has a long tradition, and is not necessarily used to generate hatred of Jews, although at times it can be used to ruffle Jewish feathers. The same sort of thing is done to Christian denominations on a regular basis. I mean, not all Catholic priests are pedophiles .....
We just have to admit that Jewish and non-Jewish sensibilities are not going to be the same, or at any rate, not all the time. I don't think Dracula movies (to take a trivial example) are anti-Semitic, but I have Jewish friends who find them uncomfortable. I know why they think that way, but I don't feel it, and if they harped on it (or harped on something else that makes them uncomfortable, like Wagner or Mel Gibson) I'd just avoid bringing it up. Why? Because I don't want to fight with them.
But this is a political campaign, so confrontation is unavoidable. If someone says that "X" is a "classic anti-Semitic trope" and I don't think so, I'm going to say so. If I feel that Trump's candidacy is at stake or if I think that Trump is Our Last Great Hope (which I don't) then I will be even more vociferous in my reaction, and that's characteristic of a lot of pushback about this picture. I think Jewish Americans have to recognize that when non-Jewish Americans argue with them, strongly disagree with them, or even mock them concerning X, Y, or Z, it doesn't mean that non-Jewish Americans hate them, or deny their humanity, let alone that they want to persecute them, or kill them.
I think Jews in America should be more wary of people and politicians who are always bending over backward to pay lip service to Jewish concerns, not because of honest agreement, but merely to curry favor, as opposed to those who will disagree with Jewish concerns and are forthright and honest about the grounds for their disagreement. The latter is to me far preferable because then at least you can find a common ground and work from there.
You’re absolutely right, but the whole Hitler thing’s got everyone rattled. Things were great in Germany, until suddenly they weren’t.
I actually don’t think 2016 America is 1933 Germany–unemployment’s lower, there are plenty of other minorities Americans hate more, and of course what happened last time serves as a reminder. Americans also don’t follow orders as well as Germans, to be honest; we exalt the rebel. I can see why many Jews are nervous though.
What gets me is the stubborn hold of the liberals on organized Jewry. Romney got almost a third of the Jewish vote. It’s not like blacks, who vote something like 90% Democratic. Do all the conservative Jews just get sick of it and just stop following politics (or in extreme cases, leave the tribe)? I mean you’ve got your Bill Kristols and your Stephen Millers, to take two antithetical examples, but seems like there should be more. I’ve never been to temple so I have no clue.
You probably also have to be a lot more pro-Israel than you actually are. (I still tend to favor them over the Palestinians, but the USA comes first--one thing I like about Trump.)
I've touched on this and am curious to see what people who actually had firsthand experience with the Jewish community think--if you don't want to go marching in Pride parades or actually try to obey all 613 commandments, what are your options? (Apart from just converting to Christianity or being nonreligious.) Christians have a much huger range of denominations to choose from.
Unless you are publicly against Judaism or against the Jewish state or against the welfare of Jews, you will achieve the same sort of popularity in Jewish life that you have in gentile life, whatever your political views. Most Orthodox Jews are conservative in politics, most are what would be called “racist.” When you go to shul, you are not interrogated about your beliefs. Unless you deliberately choose to antagonize people, you will be judged on your own merits irrespective of your politics. Judaism is an extended family.
As far as driving on the Sabbath or any other violation of Jewish law, if you publicly flaunt it, you will get negative reactions. If you keep it quiet, you’ll be like every other Orthodox Jew who violates some laws privately.
It’s just like belonging to a stamp club. Every club has rules.
Maybe this won't be popular on an anti-immigrant blog, but the energy that Jews once displayed and that Asians are displaying now is a form of immigrant energy - the 1st couple of generations in the US traditionally rise like rockets on the cooped up energy that has been bottled up in the homeland. Even before Jews arrived, we used to see this in the US with Scotsmen, Germans, etc. The Asians who are winning those math competitions are all 1st and 2nd generation immigrants and Jews in the US have run out of immigrants. We are confused now because Mestizo Hispanics don't display much energy (immigrant or otherwise) so we forget what it was like.
Jews are not lacking for success and influence in the West. Jews probably own at least a quarter and probably more of all real estate (by value) in the US. They determine the Overton Window. They run the media and finance. They donate most of the money to the political parties.
While she has middle age spread around her waist, Hillary’s weight is also concentrated in her butt, hips, thighs, and calves. She began wearing those pant suits, if you’ll recall, when cartoonists and political enemies were relentless in highlighting those thick calves and ankles and that wide butt.
You will find plenty of Republicans and moderates in non-Orthodox temples (about a quarter). The leaders of all major Jewish organizations, including religious ones, align with the coalition of the fringe, but regular Jews not as much. In the non-Orthodox synagogues I belonged to (before I went completely Orthodox in 2000), there was always a club of Republicans who supported each other and socialized together.
The kind of stuff described in the article looked pretty anti-Semitic to me, and that included the attacks on Jewish political candidates and bloggers, which almost certainly came from the right. On the other hand, the satiric use of anti-Jewish stereotypes has a long tradition, and is not necessarily used to generate hatred of Jews, although at times it can be used to ruffle Jewish feathers. The same sort of thing is done to Christian denominations on a regular basis. I mean, not all Catholic priests are pedophiles .....
We just have to admit that Jewish and non-Jewish sensibilities are not going to be the same, or at any rate, not all the time. I don't think Dracula movies (to take a trivial example) are anti-Semitic, but I have Jewish friends who find them uncomfortable. I know why they think that way, but I don't feel it, and if they harped on it (or harped on something else that makes them uncomfortable, like Wagner or Mel Gibson) I'd just avoid bringing it up. Why? Because I don't want to fight with them.
But this is a political campaign, so confrontation is unavoidable. If someone says that "X" is a "classic anti-Semitic trope" and I don't think so, I'm going to say so. If I feel that Trump's candidacy is at stake or if I think that Trump is Our Last Great Hope (which I don't) then I will be even more vociferous in my reaction, and that's characteristic of a lot of pushback about this picture. I think Jewish Americans have to recognize that when non-Jewish Americans argue with them, strongly disagree with them, or even mock them concerning X, Y, or Z, it doesn't mean that non-Jewish Americans hate them, or deny their humanity, let alone that they want to persecute them, or kill them.
I think Jews in America should be more wary of people and politicians who are always bending over backward to pay lip service to Jewish concerns, not because of honest agreement, but merely to curry favor, as opposed to those who will disagree with Jewish concerns and are forthright and honest about the grounds for their disagreement. The latter is to me far preferable because then at least you can find a common ground and work from there.
Reactions to stimuli are largely biological and the rest is socialization. Few people have much of a choice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_political_orientation
There’s no pointing to arguing about politics with friends and family. People can’t help themselves. I have very strong political views. I put them all on my blog. I share them openly with anyone who is interested, but I never get in arguments about them.
It's not happening, and Jay Michaelson is a fool. And just for some accompaniment:
https://youtu.be/8LGtXx9qkn4?t=49
The key phrases is “for a long while.” Yes, alcohol is carb heavy and contributes to weight gain in most people, but if one has been drinking heavily a long time (less time in women as their digestive system and lungs don’t handle alcohol as well as men do), the more alcohol takes its toll, the less a person eats, and thinness results. A distended belly can result attached to a body that is emaciated elsewhere.
It’s not complicated why most Jews are liberal. Organized Jewry in the West has always aligned with the coalition of the fringe because the stronger the goy is in his racial, religious and national identity, the more the Jew in his midst stands out as an alien. You won’t find many (if any) Jews in movements in gentile countries that seek to maximize the majority’s rights over minorities, while most movements to maximize minority rights at the expense of the majority are disproportionately Jewish. That’s why it is not healthy for white Christians to not have some negative views of Jews (just as it is not healthy for Jewish welfare for Jews not to have some instinctive negative reactions against Christians and Muslims). Different groups have different interests.
Life is war.
“Do all the conservative Jews just get sick of it and just stop following politics (or in extreme cases, leave the tribe)?”
Most “conservative Jews” are neo-cons (pro-Israel, see Republican party as better suited for protecting Israel, aka National Review, Weekly Standard).
What does it mean to be “conservative”?
To be right-wing is to be for hierarchy, for the natives and their traditions, and against equality and multi-culturalism. Few Jews in the diaspora are right-wing because the right-wing by definition has been against treating Jews like the natives, it has been against Jewish power and influence (because it is invariably deployed to help the fringe against core). Jews, like most healthy people, are right-wing in their own state.
Conservatism in America has been taken over by the neo-cons.
Maybe this won't be popular on an anti-immigrant blog, but the energy that Jews once displayed and that Asians are displaying now is a form of immigrant energy - the 1st couple of generations in the US traditionally rise like rockets on the cooped up energy that has been bottled up in the homeland. Even before Jews arrived, we used to see this in the US with Scotsmen, Germans, etc. The Asians who are winning those math competitions are all 1st and 2nd generation immigrants and Jews in the US have run out of immigrants. We are confused now because Mestizo Hispanics don't display much energy (immigrant or otherwise) so we forget what it was like.
“Maybe this won’t be popular on an anti-immigrant blog, but the energy that Jews once displayed and that Asians are displaying now is a form of immigrant energy ”
While this was indeed the pattern exhibited in the USA, I think immigration is just an artifact of Emancipation. The Jews who stayed in Hungary, Germany etc did extraordinarily well for themselves too (at least until the unfortunate events of 1933-45). In all likelihood we will see a quasi-emancipation of ultra-Orthodox youth in the next couple of decades too as ultra-Ortho economic model is not sustainable long term.
Steve, I think it’s more likely that Hillary controls access of her neurons to ethanol as tightly as she controlled Bill’s access to her sixth chakra. Including paternity.
It’s just more of her BS ‘I’m just folks’ shtick. Which HQ at the NYT also devotes immense resources to.
http://www.vice.com/read/interview-polygamy-matchmaking-site-founder
Polygamy is next: LGBTQP. However it will take 40 years or so for marriage/family law equities to adjust. One nice thing: no more accusations of “cheating” if you chase women in addition to your wife.
There will be corresponding reductions in child support. As you accumulate more wives, any preexisting child support obligations will have to be reduced. The legal trend will treat a divorcing wife as “abandoning the [plural] marriage”. Marriage may be a “partnership” but it will be a partnership of three or more people. Wife-partners who stay with the plural marriage will be able to claim child support from the divorcing wife.
Indeed. I would also expect to see a corresponding rise in polyandry, especially among lesbians.
King Vidor's Fountainhead is one of the best bad movies ever made.
A very visually striking movie. My personal favorite Vidor film is Northwest Passage
Thomson has a great passage where he talks about the studio “wonder[ing] if the “model” buildings Cimino talked about might not grow into real edifices.”
I can’t. None of my Jewish relatives are the least bit “nervous” regarding the position of Jews in the USA.
Maybe this won't be popular on an anti-immigrant blog, but the energy that Jews once displayed and that Asians are displaying now is a form of immigrant energy - the 1st couple of generations in the US traditionally rise like rockets on the cooped up energy that has been bottled up in the homeland. Even before Jews arrived, we used to see this in the US with Scotsmen, Germans, etc. The Asians who are winning those math competitions are all 1st and 2nd generation immigrants and Jews in the US have run out of immigrants. We are confused now because Mestizo Hispanics don't display much energy (immigrant or otherwise) so we forget what it was like.
The Boers exhibited the same “immigrant energy” in SA, as did the English in Rhodesia, the Germans of the Ostsiedlung, the English in New England, the Goths in Rome, and the Aryans in India.
Sometimes things are stable for a thousand years, sometimes for a century, sometimes for a few decades.
In a global depression, all bets are off.
The English in New England are an interesting counterexample--my guess is they were able to make the new country, or at least the northern half of it, their own, so they were able to build a more-or-less baby England.
Jews are marrying presidents' daughters. They've made it. They can slack. And, as Unz has shown us, sadly, they will.
Milo, I think that Ted Kennedy’s problem with alcohol was well known and yet, the dems considered him a viable candidate for POTUS . It only matters on who is judging whom.
There was a lot more secrecy about alcoholism back there and a lot more excuses for it–’hard drinkng’, ‘one of the guys’. It’s part of the old masculine culture that’s now gone (because men can drink more than women without getting drunk, it’s always been a ‘man thing’).
Why do I keep thinking that we are about to see a rerun of 1972-'74?
“Booze eh? Yet another characteristic in common with Nixon. All that’s missing is the scowl.”
Nixon didn’t actually drink that much. He drank more in 73′ and 74′ during the Watergate brouhaha, but had not been a big drinker before that, nor was he after he left office. That is according to some of his confidantes (who, unlike Oliver Stone, actually knew him). There certainly are no stories about him polishing off an entire fifth of scotch in one night, as LBJ was often known to do.
I wouldn’t say that Hillary is missing the scowl. She seems to scowl quite a bit. And, yes, the parallels between Hillary and Trick Dick are quite interesting.
So would it be fair to say that he's an "owner of a loaner heart"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVOuYquXuuc
“So would it be fair to say that he’s an “owner of a loaner heart”?”
Well they show people turning into reptiles, so – yes (or should I say YES) – that’s a fitting song for Dick Cheney.
How long before Hitler became chancellor did German Jews become nervous about their position in Germany?
Her tale about a drinking contest with Senator John McCain of Arizona is now a Washington legend. (She said they called it quits before things got out of hand.)
What Middle Eastern country gets carpet bombed when things get out of hand with McCain and Hillary?
Mrs. Clinton . . . would look to push issues that might be broadly popular, like infrastructure jobs and a breakthrough on immigration.
Looks like the New York Times is never going to tire of insisting that comprehensive immigration reform is broadly popular. This is why we must elect Trump.
The kind of stuff described in the article looked pretty anti-Semitic to me, and that included the attacks on Jewish political candidates and bloggers, which almost certainly came from the right. On the other hand, the satiric use of anti-Jewish stereotypes has a long tradition, and is not necessarily used to generate hatred of Jews, although at times it can be used to ruffle Jewish feathers. The same sort of thing is done to Christian denominations on a regular basis. I mean, not all Catholic priests are pedophiles .....
We just have to admit that Jewish and non-Jewish sensibilities are not going to be the same, or at any rate, not all the time. I don't think Dracula movies (to take a trivial example) are anti-Semitic, but I have Jewish friends who find them uncomfortable. I know why they think that way, but I don't feel it, and if they harped on it (or harped on something else that makes them uncomfortable, like Wagner or Mel Gibson) I'd just avoid bringing it up. Why? Because I don't want to fight with them.
But this is a political campaign, so confrontation is unavoidable. If someone says that "X" is a "classic anti-Semitic trope" and I don't think so, I'm going to say so. If I feel that Trump's candidacy is at stake or if I think that Trump is Our Last Great Hope (which I don't) then I will be even more vociferous in my reaction, and that's characteristic of a lot of pushback about this picture. I think Jewish Americans have to recognize that when non-Jewish Americans argue with them, strongly disagree with them, or even mock them concerning X, Y, or Z, it doesn't mean that non-Jewish Americans hate them, or deny their humanity, let alone that they want to persecute them, or kill them.
I think Jews in America should be more wary of people and politicians who are always bending over backward to pay lip service to Jewish concerns, not because of honest agreement, but merely to curry favor, as opposed to those who will disagree with Jewish concerns and are forthright and honest about the grounds for their disagreement. The latter is to me far preferable because then at least you can find a common ground and work from there.
It’s pretty clear to me that there are a number of people who comment on this blog (and a larger number in the broader society) who would shed no tears if America were to become Judenrein or if Israel was to disappear off the face of the earth. I sleep well at night in the thought that, 1) Donald Trump is not one of those guys, even if a few of his nuttier fringe supporters are (Hillary’s fringes are even fringier) and 2) in the foreseeable future, no one in America is going to let any of these people within 50 yards of the levers of power.
Did the NYT just admit that Obama is anti-American (in the sense of being pro-globalization)?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/04/world/europe/obama-will-need-his-oratory-powers-to-sell-globalization.html?_r=0
Is it possible that Martin van Creveld has something to say about this?
https://www.amazon.com/Pussycats-Rest-Keeps-Beating-West/dp/1533232008/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467664437&sr=8-1&keywords=Creveld+pussycats
Surely I can't be alone in fantasizing that she has some sort of seizure or attack in public that would make it undeniably clear she's unfit to hold office. Spittle flying, eyes rolling back in her head, spreading wetness at her crotch--the full works.
Unfortunately I'm sure that worst case scenario has already occurred to her and her team. I'm she's medicated and monitored constantly to prevent that disaster.
But I can dream, can't I?
Remember the big secret of President Bartlett?
Putting aside whether your facts are quite right, see Fred Reed’s post here on unz.com. While existing wealth and power doesn’t disappear overnight except in war, etc., young Jews have largely disappeared from the ranks of National Merit Finalists, math competition winners, etc. In part this is because young (non-Orthodox) Jews have disappeared period (having never been born), but also because they are like other American kids and would rather play video games than do math problems. Edison said that genius is 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration – Asians are still willing to sweat.
Back in Bill Clinton first term there was a question about who fathered a boy by a black prostitute in Arkansas. Clinton happened to go to a pub in Ireland and drink some beer. As I recall, a reporter made an effort to obtain the glass Clinton had been drinking from in the hopes of getting a DNA sample ( British tabloid reporters were not afraid of doing real investigative reporting) . The Secret Service noticed and seized the glass. This was all before Monica Lewinsky and the blue dress but one wonders if Bill’s presidency might have never had a 2nd term had that glass been sent to a lab.
Of course The Rodhanster’s penchant for secrecy ( and paranoia) is more intense than Bill’s as she is not as facile a liar. As Bill Clinton never released his medical records I can’t imagine The Rodhanster having drinks or dining with Republicans or unvetted reporters in any setting where her DNA could be obtained.
Hitler did not invent German antisemitism, which was deeply rooted in European history. Antisemitism has never flourished to the same extent on American soil – our conditions were different. It’s difficult to conceive of an American Hitler. One thing is for sure – Donald Trump ain’t him.
Not just the alcohol, but the cough. And barring the media from watching her board her plane. And ‘Hillary often gets confused’ (Huma Abedin).
And didn’t she disappear for a few months following a nasty fall?
Would it be wise for Trump to play this card – publicly release his health records, and challenge Hillary to do the same? (Or hold it back to be played in case of escalating demands that Trump release his tax records?)
I know this stuff is public record, but perhaps not as widely known as Trump could make it.
Does he have a record of health problems? (I don’t know)
Interesting if true, but I don’t think Orthodoxy is for me. I wouldn’t intentionally try to antagonize people with my religious skepticism, but skepticism would make it difficult for me to adhere to the religious restrictions. Not to mention that I’d always be worried about letting something religiously skeptical slip in a conversation. The group with which I would probably have fit in best is Soviet emigre Jews, but their kids (now approaching or in their forties as I am) are much more liberal than they were. There is also no large population of ex-Soviet Jews where I live.
The lack of Jewish National Merit Semi-Finalists and Finalists is shocking to me. I was a Finalist when I was in high school a little more than 20 years ago, and it just doesn’t take that much work for a moderately intelligent kid to become at least a Semi-Finalist. It also can generate a big payoff, especially for kids who come from middle class or more humble backgrounds as many decent schools offer Semi-Finalists significant scholarship money.
You can always think up reasons why you can’t get along with certain groups and institutions including Orthodox Jews. As far as Orthodox shuls, nobody would care if you are an atheist. I’ve met many Orthodox Jews, including rabbis, who are atheists. Most shuls would welcome you.
Neither Fred Reed nor Run Unz know anything about Jewish life aside from what they read in the papers. When you have a group such as Ashkenazi Jews who have an average IQ around 110, they’re going to continue to dominate. The Jewish kids I meet and know are every bit as brilliant as their parents. The Mirman School in Los Angeles only accepts children with an IQ above 145. The school is at least a third Jewish. When you see billionaires and other people creating the future, it seems like at least a third of them are Jewish.
Jews are far more aggressive than asians, and are far more verbally gifted, and have more drive. In media, politics, law, academia, law, etc, Jews will retain control.
When I see an asian lawyer go up against an Ashkenazi, it’s like watching a deer attack a lion.
Average Jewish household wealth is about twice that of the next richest group — Japanese Americans.
Which group do you think will most advise the next five presidents? Asians or Jews?
http://blogs.voanews.com/all-about-america/2015/05/08/this-us-ethnic-group-makes-the-most-money/
Asians will greatly, greatly outnumber Jews here in CA and nationally, and they will not take a back seat forever.
Yeah sure, HRC is going to have Republicans over for cocktails and charm them. Alcohol relaxes one’s inhibitions, and in my experience simply amplifies whatever personality traits are already there. I am sure that when John McCain drinks, he becomes even more Yosemite Sam-like, and when Clinton drinks she’s probably even more bitchy, sanctimonious and condescending.
Postperfusion syndrome, also known as "pumphead", is a constellation of neurocognitive impairments attributed to cardiopulmonary bypass (CPB) during cardiac surgery. Symptoms of postperfusion syndrome are subtle and include defects associated with attention, concentration, short term memory, fine motor function, and speed of mental and motor responses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postperfusion_syndrome
Interesting. I bet that’s what it is. He is nothing all like the Bill of old, and Hillary has all the Clinton baggage without the charisma, except now he’s lost that too.
For instance, the old Bill would never have boarded a private plane for a ‘chance encounter’ with the Attorney General. I doubt if Hillary would be so tone deaf as to suggest such a gormless move but maybe she did. It would be a shame if she’s aware of his growing disability but keeps on putting him out there anyway.
So would it be fair to say that he's an "owner of a loaner heart"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVOuYquXuuc
one of the best tunes from the 80′s-90s era. What great production.
Her vibrant colors of K-Mart pantsuits don’t cut it anymore. This confused porker is wearing long draping jackets. Dust jackets as in The Long Riders. Can you believe that came out in 1980?
For instance, the old Bill would never have boarded a private plane for a 'chance encounter' with the Attorney General. I doubt if Hillary would be so tone deaf as to suggest such a gormless move but maybe she did. It would be a shame if she's aware of his growing disability but keeps on putting him out there anyway.
It’s senior citizen Tourettes. You blurt out stuff and just do stuff. Plus pump-head from his heart bypass operation even though he got it done by the best.
Except that whites (non-Jews) are NOT allowed to, or even supposed to have their own racial and ethnic interests. At least according to the narrative of the day…
Sometimes things are stable for a thousand years, sometimes for a century, sometimes for a few decades.
In a global depression, all bets are off.
They remained a minority, though. The Boers in SA and English in Rhodesia are compared against the natives (who weren’t exactly Igbo). The Goths in Rome trashed the place–they may have reached the top through war but they couldn’t maintain the empire. Don’t know much about Ostsiedlung Germans but they remained a minority.
The English in New England are an interesting counterexample–my guess is they were able to make the new country, or at least the northern half of it, their own, so they were able to build a more-or-less baby England.
Jews are marrying presidents’ daughters. They’ve made it. They can slack. And, as Unz has shown us, sadly, they will.
Should Trump release his medical records and challenge Hillary to do the same?
It’s not just the alcohol, there’s the cough-of-death. And barring the media from watching her board her plane. And ‘Hillary gets confused a lot’ [Huma Abedin].
Did she disappear for a few months after a bad fall?
All of which is public domain, granted, but Trump has enough of the megaphone to bring them to wider attention.
Does he have a history of health problems? (I don’t know)
It’s funny how easy it is to interpret stuff in different ways. A while back I speculated that Hussein might prefer a Trump presidency to a Clinton presidency, because he thinks the Clintons have a pretty sweet gig in the Clinton Foundation, and wouldn’t mind a Hussein Foundation displacing it after his term is up. This would probably be a lot easier to bring to fruition without a Clinton in the White House, for obvious reasons (plus, Trump would make a far better foil for Hussein). I figured “letting the chips fall where they may” vis-a-vis the federal investigation into Clinton’s mishandling of state secrets might be how he sabotages Clinton’s candidacy. And that the most obvious down side of this strategy would be if he were seen by the media to be sabotaging Clinton’s candidacy. So if he were pursuing this strategy, he’d take pains to be seen to be supporting Clinton’s candidacy.
All of which is consistent with the recent news that the investigation is proceeding apace, and that “Undeterred By FBI Investigation, Obama To Campaign With Hillary.”
But lots of other theories are also consistent with that news:
Or maybe Hussein’s positioning himself to be shocked, Shocked at an indictment? Bit thin, but definitely plausible.
He’s got her back: Obama to tell foe-to-friend story at Hillary Clinton event
See, when Hussein changes his mind about Cankles and stops hating her, that means you simply must be convinced that he had good reason, and made the right choice.
But when Trump changes his mind about abortion, that means you simply must be convinced that he’s either a weak flip-flopper, or a liar.
Because Lenin asked who-whom, and that’s just who we are.
Actually I don’t believe the biology determines politics, although, if it does, William S. Gilbert’s Private Willis had it all figured out 135 years ago:
Also, a remarkable statement quoted on your blog:
Let me see if I have this straight ……. “I have a dream … that one day …. pet stores that sell dogs for $700 apiece will share malls with North Korean restaurants to serve dogs for $30 dinners.”
It’s not happening, and Jay Michaelson is a fool. And just for some accompaniment:
For instance, the old Bill would never have boarded a private plane for a 'chance encounter' with the Attorney General. I doubt if Hillary would be so tone deaf as to suggest such a gormless move but maybe she did. It would be a shame if she's aware of his growing disability but keeps on putting him out there anyway.
How is Bill having a meeting with Loretta Lynch any more reckless and ill-advised than him having an affair with Monica Lewinsky, pardoning Marc Rich, and any number of things he is rumored, but not proved, to have done?
I take your point however. I do suspect that his current state of health has weakened whatever
inhibitions he may have had.
He seems to have achieved a whole new level of flakiness.
It’s the lack of protein and fat in an all booze diet that leads long term boozers to that stringy extreme lean look. The body will breakdown protein in skeletal muscle to keep the brain and liver protein requirements met. The protein starvation leads to abdominal musculature loss and organ protrusion. Trust me, I’m a doctor. And then when a liver ceases normal function, the acute swelling can lead from a 30 inch waist to a 55 inch waist in 48 hours.
Who-whom part 938265300:
‘Hello Racist’ Website Launched To Expose Alleged Racists On The Internet
This stuff writes itself.
There will be corresponding reductions in child support. As you accumulate more wives, any preexisting child support obligations will have to be reduced. The legal trend will treat a divorcing wife as "abandoning the [plural] marriage". Marriage may be a "partnership" but it will be a partnership of three or more people. Wife-partners who stay with the plural marriage will be able to claim child support from the divorcing wife.
“As you accumulate more wives, any preexisting child support obligations will have to be reduced.”
Indeed. I would also expect to see a corresponding rise in polyandry, especially among lesbians.
There are over one billion East Asians relative to around 15 million Jews, of which only a little more than half are Ashkenazi. The average East Asian IQ is around 105 and possibly higher in some regions with the result that there are more East Asians with IQ’s above 140 than there are Jews in the world. I also question whether we have seen all that Asians are capable of in this country since so many American Asians are recent immigrants or first-generation American b0rn and raised somewhat apart from American culture. It may be the case that the most gifted and aggressive Ashkenazi Jews retain a greater share of control in law and politics, but what about more ordinary Jews? They will have to compete harder for a pool of jobs that will be in constant decline due to automation. The Asians may actually have an advantage in the subset of technology jobs where visual/spatial intelligence is more important than verbal intelligence.
Hillary Clinton being a souse is probably her one endearing quality. Can’t think of a bigger tragedy than her as Presidenta. Those losers at #NeverTrump are truly some sick puppies.
‘Hello Racist’ Website Launched To Expose Alleged Racists On The InternetThis stuff writes itself.
So what you do is get an anonymous email account, access it from public computers at the library and turn your favorite lefty in. Maybe write a spam bot to flood the site with “hate crimes”.
You spelled vagina wrong.
I still remember the first time I saw Beyond the Forest. I was an impressionable teen apt to think any movie starring Bette Davis was good. That movie was a very steep learning curve.
Other So Bad They're Good favorites:
The Big Knife
The Oscar
The Specter of the Rose
Strange Interlude
Golden Boy
Sirk movies don't count. He used melodrama to explore social issues. Interestingly, commenters on his You Tube clips understand that and discuss those issues. Valley of the Dolls and similar movies don't count because they were intended to be really really bad.
The Big Knife is an amazing train wreck of a movie.
Don’t forget Vincente Minnelli’s The Bad and the Beautiful and his later follow-up, Two Weeks in Another Town.
Of course, this all leads one to wonder the real reason she couldn’t pick up that 3am call. Do we really want a blitzed Hillary making a decision at 3am the next time when even more is on the line?
Her face does not reflect how damn fat she is getting. Especially with the professional makeup job she gets for all public appearances and the lighting she tries to get. And her team tries to limit photos to head shots.
Good photo of fatso Hillary https://goo.gl/mkaRJbI am hip to the trick of draping over the midsection because my sister was doing it. Then she lost 50 lbs and stopped. And for those who care, Hillary's big problem is her thyroid.
I saw a full body shot of AG Lynch the other day for the first time and was taken aback by how enormous she is. Like Hillary and other Democrat females she gets the flattering camera treatment (as much as such a thing can flatter them), usually showing Lynch only from the neck up.
Trigger warning:
Here is the contradiction. Could you walk around all day carrying a 75-90 pound backpack? It's actually a tribute to good inherent vitality and a good constitution that Hillary and Lynch can. This is what carries these evil women forward....plus the best doctors dispensing the best meds.
I would not be surprised if Hilary is on some nootropic drugs -- "also called smart drugs or cognitive enhancers". And having the best doctors administering them. You would be surprised what is out there.
She did so well in her 10 hour Congressional grilling on Benghazi (23 October 2015) due to nootropics. My theory anyway.
How many people have believed they could get away with having an affair? Especially politicians who are endowed with an unusually strong sense of entitlement?
I take your point however. I do suspect that his current state of health has weakened whatever
inhibitions he may have had.
He seems to have achieved a whole new level of flakiness.
Alec, Comment of the month!
Trigger warning:
http://i.imgur.com/dlxPs05.jpg
Alec, Whoa…..what is she hiding under that dress, what is that thing in the back?
The thing is, it's very, very difficult to find anything other than headshots of the woman -
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22loretta+lynch%22&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiO64vyrtvNAhUFziYKHfvqAOgQ_AUICigD
I take your point however. I do suspect that his current state of health has weakened whatever
inhibitions he may have had.
He seems to have achieved a whole new level of flakiness.
Bill Clinton has gotten away with everything so far. No one remembers that he confessed to a felony charge of perjury and his impeachment is still portrayed as a right wing witch hunt. He has a 200 million dollar slush fund in his foundation, goes wherever he wants still to adoring audiences, and no doubt has hot and cold poontang available everywhere. What’s not to like?
>Thin people generally have eating disorders.<
and fat people have ….?
Would you really want to find out?
The thing is, it’s very, very difficult to find anything other than headshots of the woman -
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22loretta+lynch%22&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiO64vyrtvNAhUFziYKHfvqAOgQ_AUICigD
The thing is, it's very, very difficult to find anything other than headshots of the woman -
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22loretta+lynch%22&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiO64vyrtvNAhUFziYKHfvqAOgQ_AUICigD
That could be the MacGuffin in “The Nice Guys II:” the head of the Justice Department hires Russell Crowe and Ryan Gosling to get back the only full-length photo of her in existence.
Don't forget Vincente Minnelli's The Bad and the Beautiful and his later follow-up, Two Weeks in Another Town.
“The Big Knife is an amazing train wreck of a movie.”
Talk about horrified fascination. Hard as it was to watch, it would have been even harder to look away.
Jack Palance and Rod Steiner in an epic contest of “I’m Acting As Ham As I Can!”. There was certainly a lot of Method in their badness.
There are some funny comments on The Big Knife message board at the IMDb.
N.B. I see two Clifford Odets offerings made my list.
Yes, but how could stock right wing blonde-haired blue eyed Hollywood terrorists use it in their nefarious plots?
Have you ever seen A Clockwork Orange?
Staying on as AG isn’t much of a carrot. As a black woman with her “credentials,” she can easily get an affirmative-action corporate job (like Eric Holder and Larry Thompson before her) or cushy law firm partnership for a couple of million bucks a year. I am sure that that’s already in the works.
As is her eventual nomination to a Circuit or Supreme Court slot.
“Yes, but how could stock right wing blonde-haired blue eyed Hollywood terrorists use it[the only full-length photo of Lynch in existence] in their nefarious plots?”
Have you ever seen A Clockwork Orange?
Not long afterwards, Micheal Douglas announced that he had throat cancer. I thought, "oh my god. I wonder if..."
Later, he confirmed that he suspected his throat cancer was related to oral sex with his wife. I thought, "well... you can't really blame him, it's Katherine Zeta Jones, for godssake, but still..."
That made a belieber out of me!
I'm lazy, so here's a cut and paste job off the internets regarding oral sex and alzheimer's, supporting the idea that Clinton is probably on the exit ramp to Looneytown:
That’s scary. I hadn’t heard the of the Alzheimer’s angle before. As the British war propaganda poster used to say, “Loose Tongues Cost Lives”.
Trigger warning:
http://i.imgur.com/dlxPs05.jpg
Thanks Alec for the great Loretta Lynch reveal photo. No one can think straight when they carry so much blubber plus they have to be on a bunch of meds for the (whatever) ailments that go along with this. These meds will warp their thinking.
Here is the contradiction. Could you walk around all day carrying a 75-90 pound backpack? It’s actually a tribute to good inherent vitality and a good constitution that Hillary and Lynch can. This is what carries these evil women forward….plus the best doctors dispensing the best meds.
I would not be surprised if Hilary is on some nootropic drugs — “also called smart drugs or cognitive enhancers”. And having the best doctors administering them. You would be surprised what is out there.
She did so well in her 10 hour Congressional grilling on Benghazi (23 October 2015) due to nootropics. My theory anyway.
Not long afterwards, Micheal Douglas announced that he had throat cancer. I thought, "oh my god. I wonder if..."
Later, he confirmed that he suspected his throat cancer was related to oral sex with his wife. I thought, "well... you can't really blame him, it's Katherine Zeta Jones, for godssake, but still..."
That made a belieber out of me!
I'm lazy, so here's a cut and paste job off the internets regarding oral sex and alzheimer's, supporting the idea that Clinton is probably on the exit ramp to Looneytown:
Super interesting and thanks.
Best iStevey comment of the last few days. Get her fat photo back. Photoshop Loretta Lynch into an acceptable weight then re-release it. Retconning the present.
Here is the contradiction. Could you walk around all day carrying a 75-90 pound backpack? It's actually a tribute to good inherent vitality and a good constitution that Hillary and Lynch can. This is what carries these evil women forward....plus the best doctors dispensing the best meds.
I would not be surprised if Hilary is on some nootropic drugs -- "also called smart drugs or cognitive enhancers". And having the best doctors administering them. You would be surprised what is out there.
She did so well in her 10 hour Congressional grilling on Benghazi (23 October 2015) due to nootropics. My theory anyway.
What’s Trump taking?
DJT will have something more to share with Saudi diplomats.
What's the deal with the GOP that keeps foisting these tea-totalers on us? Dubya, Mitt and now Trump.
At least McCain married a beer distributor.
I would say that’s a fair characterization of the GOP strategy this year.
Not long afterwards, Micheal Douglas announced that he had throat cancer. I thought, "oh my god. I wonder if..."
Later, he confirmed that he suspected his throat cancer was related to oral sex with his wife. I thought, "well... you can't really blame him, it's Katherine Zeta Jones, for godssake, but still..."
That made a belieber out of me!
I'm lazy, so here's a cut and paste job off the internets regarding oral sex and alzheimer's, supporting the idea that Clinton is probably on the exit ramp to Looneytown:
Didn’t Bill once claim that Hillary had gone down on more pussy than he had? If Bill has Alzheimer’s, so has Hillary.
The kind of stuff described in the article looked pretty anti-Semitic to me, and that included the attacks on Jewish political candidates and bloggers, which almost certainly came from the right. On the other hand, the satiric use of anti-Jewish stereotypes has a long tradition, and is not necessarily used to generate hatred of Jews, although at times it can be used to ruffle Jewish feathers. The same sort of thing is done to Christian denominations on a regular basis. I mean, not all Catholic priests are pedophiles .....
We just have to admit that Jewish and non-Jewish sensibilities are not going to be the same, or at any rate, not all the time. I don't think Dracula movies (to take a trivial example) are anti-Semitic, but I have Jewish friends who find them uncomfortable. I know why they think that way, but I don't feel it, and if they harped on it (or harped on something else that makes them uncomfortable, like Wagner or Mel Gibson) I'd just avoid bringing it up. Why? Because I don't want to fight with them.
But this is a political campaign, so confrontation is unavoidable. If someone says that "X" is a "classic anti-Semitic trope" and I don't think so, I'm going to say so. If I feel that Trump's candidacy is at stake or if I think that Trump is Our Last Great Hope (which I don't) then I will be even more vociferous in my reaction, and that's characteristic of a lot of pushback about this picture. I think Jewish Americans have to recognize that when non-Jewish Americans argue with them, strongly disagree with them, or even mock them concerning X, Y, or Z, it doesn't mean that non-Jewish Americans hate them, or deny their humanity, let alone that they want to persecute them, or kill them.
I think Jews in America should be more wary of people and politicians who are always bending over backward to pay lip service to Jewish concerns, not because of honest agreement, but merely to curry favor, as opposed to those who will disagree with Jewish concerns and are forthright and honest about the grounds for their disagreement. The latter is to me far preferable because then at least you can find a common ground and work from there.
Driving around my decidedly non-Semitic county, I see ALL the signs of the people running for sheriff have 6-point stars on them.
It’s just a cigar.
Not long afterwards, Micheal Douglas announced that he had throat cancer. I thought, "oh my god. I wonder if..."
Later, he confirmed that he suspected his throat cancer was related to oral sex with his wife. I thought, "well... you can't really blame him, it's Katherine Zeta Jones, for godssake, but still..."
That made a belieber out of me!
I'm lazy, so here's a cut and paste job off the internets regarding oral sex and alzheimer's, supporting the idea that Clinton is probably on the exit ramp to Looneytown:
I don’t know why people don’t worry more about the anti-hygienic aspects of oral sex. In restaurants, workers are required to wash their hands very well after using the bathroom, yet many people are comfortable just rushing into oral sex with no regard for the possibility of germs.
I don’t recall EVER seeing a full-body shot of Lynch until the Tarmac Meeting.
Rob, Well I’m going to keep doing until I show more memory loss than just misplacing my keys. You remember what they used to say about masturbation causing blindness? Well, I quit when I needed glasses. Self control is the answer.
Why do I keep thinking that we are about to see a rerun of 1972-'74?
Lord, yes!
I was saying the other day that this reminded me of 1972. I was for McGovern then and got a lot of kidding, both before the election and even more after the election from the powers that be where I worked.
When the dust settled, Watergate erupted, and the walls came tumbling down, I was able to inform my tormentors that if I’d know how much fun Nixon’s second term would have been, I’d have voted for him myself.
I think Hillary will be even better.
I was saying the other day that this reminded me of 1972. I was for McGovern then and got a lot of kidding, both before the election and even more after the election from the powers that be where I worked.
When the dust settled, Watergate erupted, and the walls came tumbling down, I was able to inform my tormentors that if I'd know how much fun Nixon's second term would have been, I'd have voted for him myself.
I think Hillary will be even better.
There’s still plenty of time between now and November for enough weird, random, unpredictable fun stuff to occur. I’m not really sure she’ll ever be president. But I will bet that if she is, it will be a one-termer.
Yep, you gotta give if you want to receive.
“Later, he confirmed that he suspected his throat cancer was related to oral sex with his wife.”
Or maybe with the few hundred or so other women he’s probably had in his time.
I have seen speculation that the viruses spread by open-mouthed kissing might cause cancer. In the future, people might just spend thier adult lives in body-condoms.
Trump would not be taking any nootropics. He is too old school for this. He is 70 and getting jowly and portly from campaigning. You have a point. Maybe he is on a few meds that hurt his thought process such as tweeting out the 6-point $$$ star
Guess again, porn boy.
http://blogs.voanews.com/all-about-america/2015/05/08/this-us-ethnic-group-makes-the-most-money/
The nicotine rush IS intoxication, my deluded tobacco-loving friend.
As for the heart, are you really going to claim that smoking tobacco isn’t bad for the heart?
I’ll add this: it’s a shame that MARIJUANA gets such a bad rap. For one thing, a regular pot smoker can smoke a LOT less than a regular tobacco smoker. There are also a wide range of edible cannabis products, so the pot fan can echew smoking entirely, which I don’t believe the tobacco/nicotine-addict can.
This is only true in secular or Reform Jewish communities. In Orthodox communities, conservatives are the majority.
And since the great majority of Jews in the USA are NOT Orthodox, this point is of limited utility.
Absurd statement. Thin people — of which I’m NOT exactly one at the moment
— are simply far healthier than obese people, on average and over time.
Lack of excess body fat doesn’t betoken an eating disorder. It is, or at least was, normal.
Not long afterwards, Micheal Douglas announced that he had throat cancer. I thought, "oh my god. I wonder if..."
Later, he confirmed that he suspected his throat cancer was related to oral sex with his wife. I thought, "well... you can't really blame him, it's Katherine Zeta Jones, for godssake, but still..."
That made a belieber out of me!
I'm lazy, so here's a cut and paste job off the internets regarding oral sex and alzheimer's, supporting the idea that Clinton is probably on the exit ramp to Looneytown:
Gee, it’s almost like people should return to sex with one partner for life, and normal straight intercourse of the type that can create new life. Nah, that’s crazy talk.
This seems accurate. We have a fairly close friend who is an observant Reform Jew — half Ashkenazi and half Sepphardic — born and raised in Los Angeles, now living in the burbs. He is a moderately conservative Republican and says that he usually is treated rudely by the lefties who dominate his temple.
Hillary claims to think that we should lower our fed gov debt? Yet she proposes spending on existing programs and new programs that would continue running large annual deficits in perpetuity, thus increasing the fed gov’s total debt. Not a meaningful area of “agreement” with Hillary.
Yes, if members of the stamp club believed that according to their God, non-members were inferior beings to be exploited, cheated, deceived, used, and generally treated like animals and fools. Great analogy.
Depressing, but seemingly true.
If that’s true, it proves that Judaism is a race more than a religion. And a highly bigoted, supremacist race at that.
In the longer run, you’re dead wrong. Asians are already moving into positions in the federal judiciary and other parts of the federal government civilian apparatus, as prosecutors, public defenders, clerks to judges, and judges themselves.
Asians will greatly, greatly outnumber Jews here in CA and nationally, and they will not take a back seat forever.
P.S. Not sure why you think that Jewish lawyers are particularly talented. After many years experience, I don’t.
“Loose lips sink ships”, wasn’t it?
Or maybe with the few hundred or so other women he's probably had in his time.
I have seen speculation that the viruses spread by open-mouthed kissing might cause cancer. In the future, people might just spend thier adult lives in body-condoms.
No need for body condoms if you marry fairly young or stay celibate till engagement, get tested before marriage, and then stay loyal to your wife.
As for the heart, are you really going to claim that smoking tobacco isn't bad for the heart?
I'll add this: it's a shame that MARIJUANA gets such a bad rap. For one thing, a regular pot smoker can smoke a LOT less than a regular tobacco smoker. There are also a wide range of edible cannabis products, so the pot fan can echew smoking entirely, which I don't believe the tobacco/nicotine-addict can.
Nicotine doesn’t impair your judgment the way alcohol does. You can smoke and drive, for example. You’re right about the chronic effects on the heart, but the buzz in the short-term is less intense than caffeine. I’m just saying that, leaving aside the health issues, nicotine and tobacco are good stress relievers. Would you trust a pot-smoking pres?
As for the heart, are you really going to claim that smoking tobacco isn't bad for the heart?
I'll add this: it's a shame that MARIJUANA gets such a bad rap. For one thing, a regular pot smoker can smoke a LOT less than a regular tobacco smoker. There are also a wide range of edible cannabis products, so the pot fan can echew smoking entirely, which I don't believe the tobacco/nicotine-addict can.
Coffee and cigarettes are Ritalin for old people like me. It works! I once had a famous professor, who, when I would drop by his office to ask a question, had a cloud of smoke, a pyramid of butts, and a coffee pot brought from home as he was typing away on his latest manuscript …… if he had been smoking dope he’d have been listening to Pet Sounds with the headphones on.
Bill Clinton is NOT a convicted felon.
Given that Gary Johnson is a pot smoker and I voted for him in 2012, the answer is yes. I’d expect, though, that the president not consume much alcohol or marijuana while in office, staying healthier and more alert.
Public atheists aren’t accepted by most Orthodox communities. Several years ago, I stumbled upon a few blogs kept by secretly agnostic/atheist Orthodox Jews, and they took great pains to avoid letting their local Jewish communities know about their beliefs for fear of ostracism, wives leaving them, etc. Luke may have found a few Orthodox Jews who are willing to accept agnostics/atheists, but that doesn’t mean that most or all Orthodox Jews tolerate lack of belief within their communities.
Is your legal practice elite? Shitlaw lawyers are often not very good whether Jewish or otherwise, but Jewish lawyers at the high end of the profession hold their own against other elite lawyers.