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From National Review:
Sarah Jeong Is a Boring, Typical Product of the American Academy
By HEATHER MAC DONALD
August 8, 2018 3:32 PMTo decry her anti-white ‘racism’ gives her too much credit for originality.
The most significant feature of Sarah Jeong, the New York Times’ embattled new editorial board member, is not that she is a “racist,” as her critics put it. It is that she is an entirely typical product of the contemporary academy.
… But most important, her tweets are not imitative of anything other than the ideology that now rules the higher-education establishment, including UC Berkeley and Harvard Law School, both of which Jeong attended. And that ideology is taking over non-academic institutions, whether in journalism, publishing, the tech sector, or the rest of corporate America. Sarah Jeong’s tweets and blog posts are just a marker of the world we already live in.
The key features of Jeong’s worldview are an obsession with whiteness and its alleged sins; a commitment to the claim that we live in a rape culture; and a sneering contempt for objectivity and truth-seeking. These are central tenets of academic victimology. From the moment freshmen arrive on a college campus, they are inundated by the message that they are either the bearers of white privilege or its victims. …
Jeong’s contempt for whites is the natural outcome of the victimology university, which teaches students to hate and rewards them for doing so. …
Jeong deploys a coy, warmed-over postmodernism to buttress her refusal to accept facts.
Jeong’s magnum opus of academic victimology is a long 2014 blog post on the Rolling Stone campus-rape hoax. Written after the Rolling Stone had retracted its sensational and wholly fictional story on a gruesome fraternity rape at the University of Virginia, Jeong’s post tortuously and often incoherently explains why it is imperative to continue believing the pseudo-victim, Jackie. The effort to discredit the Rolling Stone story (a process otherwise known as belated fact-checking) represents the patriarchy’s campaign to deny the existence of rape culture, she writes.
The credo of the campus rape movement is: “Believe unconditionally,” as New York University’s Wellness Exchange puts it. Jeong takes that credo to heart. “The more I see these ‘inconsistencies’ and ‘discrepancies’ [in the Rolling Stone story] touted as evidence of falsehood, the more convinced I am that Jackie is not lying,” Jeong writes. She sneers at such “mundanities” as dates and times that refute Jackie’s narrative, a remarkable stance, one might think, for a journalist. …
Jeong deploys a coy, warmed-over postmodernism to buttress her refusal to accept facts. “They own the words [‘they’ are presumably white males]. They own the law. They own reality or at least what everyone acknowledges as reality. They own the Truth™, the Truth that makes up how we understand our society.” Another of those anti-feminist “Truths™” that Jeong, in her Foucauldian mode, dismisses is “what happened with the Duke Lacrosse players” (falsely accused of raping a black stripper). To Jeong, the fact that the prosecutor in the Duke case was disbarred for ignoring clearly exculpatory evidence is of no import. The post-modernist belief that truth is always an ideological construct allows her to ignore whatever facts contradict her favored story about the world. …
To focus on Sarah Jeong’s “racism” is too comforting, since it personalizes the issue and suggests that she is an outlier. Instead, she is all too common.
It’s interesting to speculate what set off the sizable public reaction against Jeong when similar anti-white hate has been building up for years:
- Straw that broke the camel’s back.
- Being South Korean, in a year when lots of Americans have been reminded of their country’s sacrifices for South Korea, was another factor.
- But I think Jeong just has an unusually nasty personality.
You’re meant to say things like “abolish whiteness” and leave an unspoken get out/implication that what you really want is for white people to be free.
You’re not meant to tie it to tangible reality like actual skin characteristics and compare people to grovelling goblins.
Heather Macdonald’s wider point though is that this really is different from the anti-black racism of the past. It is much bigger and somehow much stupider. At the same time, it really is less exclusionary. A white person has no drama joining their clique. You just need a lobotomy. If you want to pretend you’ve already had one, the article will tell you how.
I keep pointing out that Jeong might just actually be racist. She lived 13 years in Korea. Maybe she actually does think whites are goblins (they used to call us “ghosts”), and has just learned to hide her anti-black and anti-Hispanic sentiments.
On the other hand, she never says “Americans”, which is what I’d expect her to use in that case. That’s a point for her being just a classic product of American universities.
I’m not entirely sure Heather MacDonald has ever had an original thought in her life.
As to the sizable public reaction, it’s most assuredly nothing to do with American support for Korea. Maybe just the blatant nature of it and the double standard.
As for her being unpleasant, remember that she’s an Asian American who spent 18 years conforming for grades. Being a total progressive bitch is a pretty standard strategy for Asian American women; makes it harder to tag them as model minorities.
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Why is Jeong the media sensation? Steve’s factors are relevant, but I think bigger ones are:
1. She’s isn’t some Oberlin undergrad, she’s Berkeley-Harvard-NY Times.
2. There was never any apology of any sort. NYT issued a statement, not her, saying it doesn’t condone that language, but it was only made in an attempt at parody in response to hate tweet directed at her, offering a grand total of 2 of them.
3. Her statements she hates whites, and delights at the idea of whites suffering, were numerous, unambiguous, and unqualified.
4. She has not even a slightly plausible claim to victimhood. She grew up in a USA where NE Asians were at the top economically, and lived a charmed life floating up through elite institutions.
That this was a major news event shows the strength of the right wing meme complex, and also our good judgment.
NYT is damaged goods now for the left. “The NYT says X? The NYT that hires people who say #cancelwhitepeople?”
I also think people are trying to shut Jeong up because she’s an excellent recruiter for the Alt-Right.
That is a prerequisite for working at the NYT’s. She’s carrying on the Jill Abramson tradition.
Lawrence Block, who seems to me (a foreigner) to have a good view of reality in matters of US “correctness”, has a story in the attorney-from-Hell-whom-we’d-call-in-a-heartbeat series of Defender of the Innocents (“The Ehrengraf Settlement”) about false accusation of a lacrosse jock…
I’m taking it that a Korean girl broke your heart in the past? Or if you’re a female then a Korean woman stole your white boyfriend? Your post was pretty racist.
There’s the fact that people knew of her and the tweets (That’s why this happened so quickly after her appointment) because she was a crazy neon-haired SJW like Zoe Quinn who pretends ‘harassers’ simply discovered she was a woman and her Korean on the internet.
No, she has a long history stating shit on the internet being involved in ‘GamerGate’ (She’s basically an Asian Zoe Quinn, except even Zoe Quinn pretended to be a games developer, I don’t know Jeong even reaches that level of genuine interest in anything technical), even when she was employed by Vice more recently.
https://medium.com/@therealsexycyborg/shenzhen-tech-girl-naomi-wu-my-experience-with-sarah-jeong-jason-koebler-and-vice-magazine-3f4a32fda9b5
Ultimately Jeong has absolutely no qualifications to be technology correspondent. She has shown no interest in ‘technology’ other than her own addiction to social media which seems to be derived from her apparent BPD.
Her only accomplishment is a short ~70 page book called ‘The Internet of Garbage’ which argues for the censorship of anti-SJW ideas on the internet in the wake ‘GamerGate’. (IE anonymous campaigns on the internet by-passing the social shaming mechanism used to shove ever more deranged SJW nonsense down people’s throats.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internet_of_Garbage
That’s why she caused such controversy. She was hired as ‘technology correspondent’ of the NYT because the NYT wanted to use that position to argue for the censorship of the internet. She was already a known figure hence her ‘harassment’. (Ie she joined internet campaigns and got people from the other side disagreeing with her for brief windows and couldn’t understand why they were allowed to talk back) We can only conclude this was and is the agenda of the NYTs because of her being totally unremarkable and unqualified otherwise.
HUSSARS LEAD THE WAY
Speaking of academic absurdity, Hungary has abolished gender studies (sort of), citing job market uselessness.
http://www.teoti.com/news/156026-hungarian-govt-abolishes-gender-studies.html
The masses in America don’t do well with subtlety: just as they need a laugh track to tell them where the punchline is, to understand a political point it needs to be stated clearly and unambiguously, maybe with some profanity for emphasis. Jeong didn’t say “I hate those people who owned slaves/the NRA/Republicans,” her contempt was for white people in toto. That she even got hired by the Times is bad enough, but for them to stand their ground was a watershed. As Lot said, they and she didn’t even really apologize; to hear their telling, it’s Jeong who’s the real victim here, provoked by those mean old internet trolls (i.e. once again, it’s white people who are the real villains).
Jews are good at stamping out any dialogue that has even the vaguest possibility of going in an anti-Semitic direction. American goys are the opposite; they’ll laugh along with the propaganda of their own destruction right up to the point where they’re being herded onto the cattle car…almost. But the Times just gave the game away. Trump and his movement can capitalize on this; whether they do remains to be seen.
Absolutely, this is the way forward. We must follow Roy Cohn’s advice and make them crazier than they already are, so that apoliticals and normies are forced to realize that something is really wrong.
Only a gweilo would say something like that.
The post was reasonable. There is a version of racial supremacism special to Koreans. In the past, it made intermarriage rare (the speed with which this was brought down and memory holed is a mass media social engineering triumph). The Norks go really crazy with it (“The Cleanest Race”) and the RoKs (from my ignorant and limited view) have largely dropped it. But if I spent a long time in Korea and then attended, or even visited, an American public school, I know what I’d find myself thinking.
And as far as I know, they still call us ghosts.
Hmmm. A comparison is invited to Michiko “Little Righteousness” Kakutani …
1. What, “fellow whites” are not on top economically?
2. Even among Asians, Indians are on top in America, not NE Asians, largely due to the highly selective nature of Indian immigration. Who runs Microsoft again? Who’s favored by Harvard admissions among Asians?
3. Let me posit another possibility: maybe, just maybe the people in power want ordinary whites to believe that it’s not the real people at the top who are anti-white, but their loathsome Asian pets. Call it a strategy of deflection that kills two birds by hurting their prospective cognitive competition at the same time. I have an idea who benefits if whites and NE Asians are busy fighting each other. See 1. and 2.
Koreans are really racist, which is a quality I find pleasant about them. With them you know where you stand.
Heather Mac Donald has debunked the police-victimize-blacks myth as effectively as anyone I can think of. She’s also written convincingly in support of the broken-windows stop-and-frisk style of policing. She does her homework and she does careful research. You’ll never read anything by her and walk away without being far better informed on the subject at hand, than you came in.
Read and learn: https://www.city-journal.org/contributor/heather-mac-donald_122
That’s Chinese, not Korean. When Koreans want to slur an American, they typically use “Yankee.” Maybe “Big nose” less commonly.
By the way, this (from a Chinese newspaper) is a good summary of racism in Korea: https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/2102143/south-koreas-first-black-model-faces-racism-nation-where-white
You are new here, aren’t you?
As opposed to “education realist.” I can’t tell where she stands at all since she says Asians are soulless, unintelligent cheaters whose children’s lives she tries to make as miserable as possible, but really she loves those kids.
Why does she put a gap where nobody else does?
See, academia CAN be cleansed, and they actually used the exact methods I outlined a few weeks ago.
Don’t know why this isn’t a top priority for Trump.
Are you really surprised that “education realist” thinks of herself as a neglected genius, but Heather Mac Donald is an unoriginal hack?
I second this endorsement, Heather MacDonald is a foundational thinker for us, and her short readable editorial compilations (Are Cops Racist and The Burden of Bad Ideas) are pretty much what every newcomer to this ideology should cut his or her teeth on. Despite being old they remain highly relevant and blow out of the water many current idols — sadly, the only way in which they are postdated is that the left has gotten stranger. MacDonald is like Ann Coulter with a sense of restraint, all the relevance and logic, without the snark (both women are lawyers).
As far as MacDonald lacking original thinking, normally when a lawyer writes an editorial it doesn’t necessarily mean she went out into the city doing original research and talking to people. In fact a lot of editorials from journalists fail to do that.
Also, this whole episode has little to do with Koreans or Asians.
Campus SJW culture constantly produces people who talk this way about whites, men, ‘oppressor groups’, etc. You can find a million Sarah Jeongs on Twitter at any moment, many of which are white. In fact, the heart of SJW culture is often unattractive, hysterical white girls. She just happens to be an Asian assimilated into that culture.
Don’t believe me? Go to college and see for yourself. Or ask your kids.
If an Asian in Asia hated whites, they wouldn’t express it like a teenage tumblrina. That entire culture is cancer and not good for majorities or minorities.
Being South Korean, in a year when lots of Americans have been reminded of their country’s sacrifices for South Korea, was another factor.
US trained SK’s to be good dogs. US divided Korea and gave half to Stalin. US said to SK, ‘you good koreans, those in north bad koreans. You go hate those bad commie koreans.’
SK said ‘yes sir’.
Now, US is ruled by Jews who say to SK’s ‘you good korean if you wave homo flag and hate whitey. US all about diversity and trump racist monster.’
And SK says ‘yes sir’.
So, the irony of SK’s anti-whiteyness goes back to the US turning SK into dogs of US. The elites have changed in the US, and SK’s follow accordingly.
This is why US must leave SK, and SK must reunite NK and find their own way.
It’s bad for both sides.
My beef with Macdonald. She asks why Asians lean proggy when the progs don’t see Asians as noble victims and call for academic discrimination against them.
But I ask, Why should patriots care about these lousy Asians when they side with anti-whites? Who cares about them?
But more importantly, why are cons so slavish to Jews when Jewish control of media and academia created people like Jeong?
I keep pointing out that Jeong might just actually be racist
No, I’m the only true race-ist. Stop misusing that term.
She has not even a slightly plausible claim to victimhood. She grew up in a USA where NE Asians were at the top economically, and lived a charmed life floating up through elite institutions.
Over-educated elites found an iroc-clad mode of snobbery. Turn up their noses at the Deplorables in sneering and sniveling fashion but in the name of ‘equality’, something they rise above by going to elite schools. This way, they get to have the dog and eat it too. They get off feeling superior and sophisticated with fancy critical theory(or crystal theory) words but also posture as champions of the oppressed.
Haute PC is lingua franca of the glob-set. You have to know the right slogans, catch phrases, symbols, narratives, and invectives.
Jeong is a bit ‘nouveau riche’ in this. Too ostentatious to show off her prog-snobbery or prognobbery.
South Korea’s first black model faces racism in a nation where white people are ‘welcomed with open arms’
If Koreans favor whiteness over Asianness, then maybe THAT is the problem. They should stop that and learn to appreciate their own kind. Stop worshiping the Other.
But Asian progs argue,’ Since we favor whiteness over Asianness, we should be fair ad favor blackness over Asianness too.’
Hopeless dummies.
Exactly. I’d like to hit agree on every post in this thread except of course ER’s embarrassing cluelessness re: HMcD.
There is a version of racial supremacism special to Koreans. In the past, it made intermarriage rare (the speed with which this was brought down and memory holed is a mass media social engineering triumph).
Rejecting intermarriage is ‘racial supremacist’? So, Koreans who were holed up in Korea and just married each other were ‘racial supremacist’ but I suppose Mongols who conquered and raped and bred with other races were ‘racial egalitarians’. And same with Spanish who conquered the natives and the Americas and raped them.
American goys are the opposite; they’ll laugh along with the propaganda of their own destruction right up to the point where they’re being herded onto the cattle car…almost.
White people have been propagandize to not worry about the way things are going.
“Be calm and carry on”
“Igbok” (It’s going to be okay)
Jimmy Buffet’s Parrot head philosophy: “If life gives you limes, make margaritas.”
“Don’t Worry, Be Happy”
Jeff Spicoli – “All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I’m fine.”
I read one of her articles before this controversy. It’s about an old white male judge and his computer programming background. She doesn’t appear to have harmed this particular white man.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/19/16503076/oracle-vs-google-judge-william-alsup-interview-waymo-uber
Ultimate girl on girl insult: “basic” (usually followed by “bitch”).
A reasonable interpretation of the exchange is that the NYT spikes the ball on the patriarchy by knowingly hiring Jeong. Yes. Yes, the gloves are off now, wot! wot! Intentional and classic agitprop. Is the NYT finally learning from Trump?
MacDonald calls them out by saying “ho hum, what else is new. NYT hires a mediocre tech hack writer who HATES WHITE MEN. Basic bitch “
Es war einmal,
Ein treuer Hussar, …………
That’s not what she says, and on the question of white-asian-american personality differences, you are really touchy.
Ed Realist’s statement on Heather MacDonald is wrong and strange, but I expect she won’t say that again after reading the links posted in response.
I’m guessing she’s imitating the Gaelic origin of the name—mac Domhnaill, i.e. son of Domhnall.
No self-respecting white man should call Sarah Jeong a racist — the words racist and racism have been (over-)used to silence Whites and de-legitimize white identity to the point they have no real meaning anymore — the fact is, more Whites need to be “racist”, ie conscious of their identity and the value of America as a majority white nation to themselves and their posterity.
BASED Hungary. Japan did something similar a while ago.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2015/08/23/commentary/japan-commentary/humanities-attack/
Don’t make me dig up all her posts.
Hmmm, I seem to remember a Jewish editorialist bemoaning in WSJ once:
Seems to me that whites and East Asians have more in common than people whose ancestry is half non-ice people. Might not want to engage in projection with this “touchiness.”
Heather picks up on themes I noticed about the Jeong fiasco. She’s not racist, she’s performing. She’s giving what the audience wants. It is what the audience of urbane, highly educated white liberals wants. It’s why Coates can buy a Parisian apartment now.
Heather also picks up on how quickly the media and big corporations picks up SJW lingo. This week I noticed in the social media statements stating why Alex Jones and other conservatives had to be removed that they often used the term “dehumanizing”. Jones used dehumanizing language about minorities they declared. Sounds like something that can be ripped from SJW twitter or a ethnic studies class.
Conservatives really need to stand up to this crap and republicans fearful of losing the house should speak out on it more. They really haven’t learned any lessons from Trump.
Sacrifices, indeed.
Those sacrifices, made by a force of predominantly white men, are the reason Sarah Jeong is not squatting in some paddy, pulling roundworms out of her tear ducts, and wondering whether she’ll be eaten by her hunger-maddened family and recycled back into that same paddy in the wretched circle of communist life.
Boring? More like blood-boiling.
Who’s trying to shut her up? Where did you get that idea?
She’s only begun to talk.
That’s actually pretty perceptive, and not at all unlikely.
Actually, all Asians are really racist. Actually, everyone on earth save Euro-American white people are really racist. Which is precisely why Euro-American white people are quickly disappearing from the planet.
East Asians and Jews have the most in common by far, in particular personality traits. So it’s sort of entertaining seeing them fight it out, and Sarah Jeong is nothing if not an attempt at co-opting. Jews are right to be afraid, because not only are Asians similarly capable and tribal, they’re just a bit more numerous.
Your points may well be valid but conservatives and republicans tend to be dim-witted.
Dude,
Love you mean it but Lot’s right. Constructive criticism. You’re better than some of the stuff that gets you worked up.
Amusing, those who seek to inform me who MacDonald is, as if I’d just heard of her. No, not really amusing, unless by “amusing”, I mean “tedious”.
I’m perfectly aware of who Heather MacDonald is. She didn’t “debunk” anything; the data has been there for decades and far more than her have pointed it out. She just points it out with lots of adjectives that makes the less informed go “Yeah, yeah! Truth it, girl!”
She’s never wrong. She’s just unoriginal. And she makes up for it by demonizing whatever she attacks.
What struck me about the posts was not their racism; it was their childishness. She is too old be act like this. My middle stepdaughter went through a two-year phase from the age of fourteen to sixteen when she was a first-class brat. They she grew up.
Sarah Jeong is never going to grow up. She is a blue-haired rebellious teen, and that is all she will ever be.
As a true-blue Sailerite, I can occasionally disagree with him with due respect.
I think having an openly anti-white racist on the NYTimes editorial board is a great addition and furthers the alt-right and HBD agenda. There are HBD-caused average differences between racial ancestries; if Ms. Jeong does not like most ethnic Europeans and is honest about it, that is fine and her own business. When and if a tape recording or other evidence emerges that Trump is aware of HBD (such as saying that on average Jews are more careful and diligent business accountants than African-Americans) the alt-right can counter that a NYTimes editorial board member (our secret ally Sarah) has said much worse about whites. Having an acknowledged leftist publicly admitting to noticing race differences is a step in the right direction toward honesty about these issues.
Whites are on average different from African-Americans and Ms. Jeong prefers African Americans.
Someone should appoint Sarah Jeong the honorary chair of the alt-right Ladies Brigade.
Any white who expresses any sympathy for white identity, white nationalist, a white person überhaupt — nowadays they’re practically all Nazis.
NE Asians and Jews have different distributions in IQ with the former excelling in quantitative and (especially) visuo-spatial aspects and the latter in verbal.
Also, while Jews are tribal, NE Asians are more conformist (they are NOT “a people apart”). They are not the same thing. Asians who resemble Jews much more are Indians (well, their highly selected immigrants anyway).
As I wrote elsewhere, we should be so lucky to have enemies that are this transparently evil/craven. More, please.
Pointing out the obvious, which some people insist on obfuscating, is not “getting worked up.” Were I worked up about something, I’d go kill it, not write on the Internet.
With all due respect, I’m not a big fan of, and do not wish to get sucked into, remotely diagnosed psycho-analytical method of debating, which is another form of ad hominem. Maybe we can all try to stick to the substance of these arguments, eh?
Elsewhere I wrote that she is either a loathsome racist or a craven opportunist playing a role. But of course the two are not mutually exclusive. She might be both.
However, whatever the case might be, her defenders are right about one thing: she is without power, meaning she is merely a pawn. The villains that matter are the ones who hired her and gave her a wider platform.
It’s clear you didn’t read the article.
It’s interesting to speculate what set off the sizable public reaction against Jeong when similar anti-white hate has been building up for years
Jeong isn’t Jewish, black, Hispanic or gay i.e. she isn’t a True Victim of White Privilege.
I’m not sure what this means or why it’s relevant. McDonald is a very important cog in the machine fighting against the crazy left. She is smart, prolific, articulate, a hard worker, and a diligent researcher who backs up her opinions with irrefutably authoritative facts, research, and statistics. This is what drives her enemies crazy. They cannot debate her because she always pins them in no time flat. So she must be deplatformed. But to a neutral observer she comes off as completely reasonable, “Why all the rage over her?”
She has a book coming out soon that she’s previewed in some columns, and I’m looking forward to it, on “diversity,” but with more breadth than she usually has to go into the history and background.
I routinely utilize their own dialectic in responding to them (when necessary), but making passing comments that I don’t “accept such bigotry” and “the hate on the left”… People on the right are so busy trying to be “better than that”, and “above all that” that they let these leftists steamroll right over them.
As with this Cortez gal, give it 5-10 years and we will be reading about how these women met and married some rich white guy and settled down into stay at home motherhood. Not out of the question (especially with Cortez).
Women are opportunists and will change languages, lovers, locations and beliefs at the drop of a hat, if necessary for survival or for cash and prizes. You watch, there will be some liberal digital rag gushing over her in 5 years, about how satisfying she has found motherhood or living abroad, etc etc.
MacDonald points out something that I think is obvious but not discussed enough – the unbelievable level of ideological conformity on the left. They basically decide on each issue there is only one acceptable point of view and then will contort themselves around that truth no matter how absurd, as we have seen in the defenses of Jeong. I can’t see any difference between progressive politics and religious zealotry.
Maybe NYT wanted an Asian to whine more about the paucity of negroes in Silicon Valley? That way they can’t be accused of attacking Asian over-representation as anti-Asian..
The Jeong tweets are so blatantly racist and inappropriate, the Republicans (if they had a spine) have a sure path to victory.
Simply buy billboards in all tight race locations, with a verbatim quote (there are enough that they could have different ones on every streetcorner),
followed by ‘The New York Times,’
followed by ‘They really do hate you’
followed by ‘vote Republican.’
Trump should quote her in every debate or news conference going forward (presumably, save them for close to the election).
The fact that the MSM (not just NYT) is arguing and dissembling indicates that if they have their way (and they control access to information, so unless they are fought, they will), the quotes will fade away. Republicans and Trump have the power to not let them fade away-if they use it.
joe
The more that white people feel ourselves (and see ourselves) becoming a minority, the more we feel the right to defend ourselves against attacks like the ones by Sarah Jeong. But the biggest influence is that Trump has liberated those of us who defend white, European culture and America’s right to remain white and European. Once upon a time we thought we were a tiny minority and wouldnt be defended if we spoke up. Suddenly we realized how many of us are out there. It was pretty damn amazing the way the attitude in my office changed after Trump started winning the primaries. It’s not that some of us weren’t expressing our opinions before, but that we suddenly felt no reason to be apologetic about it.
Serious question: Can anybody explain the loony left’s racial thinking to me in a way that wouldn’t strain the logic of a fifth-grader?
Because I really don’t get it. I mean I “get it” on an abstract intellectual level, but I don’t get how it’s supposed to work in the real world. Seriously, if you think white racism really is the absolute heart of all evil, I cannot wrap my head around the notion that you’d think it’s a terrific idea to get white folks to become hypersensitive about their own race. If you assume whites are basically like all other people, then you have to assume the majority of them will be pretty selfish and tribal once conditioned to see themselves in sharp racial terms.
The only way for this scheme to work is to assume that whites (or “whites,” to get all pomo about it) will possess far higher levels of tolerance, understanding and forbearance — in short, saintliness — than other races, when encouraged to think of themselves as a “race.” Yet AT THE SAME TIME, whites are not supposed to notice their own saintliness, much less think about it and conclude, “hmmmm. Maybe since we’re so much saintlier, we should be the ones running things…”
But if you can recognize that tendency in yourself and denounce it, then doesn’t that make you even saintlier still? Which in turn leads to more racial pride…so is it like one of the Christian mysteries, then, where the more enlightened you are about God’s grace, the more acutely aware you are of your own shortcomings?
I understand that “die, honky, die!” is really the endgame here, but I wonder about the reasoning they use with the less-bloodthirsty folks. “We need to get the whites hyper-focused on their own whiteness so they’ll…” — what, exactly? Be more loving and tolerant? I thought their hate and intolerance was caused in the first place by their laser-like focus on their own whiteness.
You know, I’ve said this before, but it bears repeating: These folks deliver white kids directly into the alt-right’s hands. Your run-of-the-mill white normie would need a map and a compass to find Richard Spencer’s house, but the left picks them up and drives them right up to the sidewalk in front of his house, so that all he has to do is stand on his stoop and invite them in. And I suspect he knows it, too — I suspect that’s part of his business plan. He noticed the left was delivering white kids by the truckload to the entrance of Whitepowerville, so he thought, “hell, I should set up a stand to sell T-shirts.”
“McDonald is a very important cog in the machine fighting against the crazy left. ”
She most certainly is not. She talks exclusively to the committed right, preaching to the choir. She’s not valued by anyone on the left, or even in the middle. She’s not particularly well known, nor do any intellectuals find her particularly compelling.
“But to a neutral observer she comes off as completely reasonable, “Why all the rage over her?””
Neutral observers find her rhetoric, her sneering tone, her aspersions without foundation, incredibly unpleasant. She is not a popular writer in any way. Again, her facts are fine. I agree with her opinions, for the most part, but as I said, that’s because she’s a lagging indicator. By the time she’s had a thought, everyone worth reading has said it first and better.
Someone else said:
“MacDonald points out something that I think is obvious but not discussed enough – the unbelievable level of ideological conformity on the left.”
Are you joking? It’s something everyone thinks is obvious and has been discussed endlessly. That’s why MacDonald points it out. As I said, no original thought.
Are you kidding? We put Asians in concentration camps in WWII. There was a special law passed that said that Asians could never become US citizens, etc. Asians are very competitive in victimhood Olympics.
None of this has much to do with Koreans, whose asses we saved (well half of them – the other half we gave to Stalin as present) , but as an “Asian” Jeong has plenty of Pokemon Points. As a “visible minority” Koreans arguably have more points than Jews. Jews (in their guise as “white men”) are sometimes on the victimizer side (Harvey Weinstein) but Koreans, like all other favored minorities, have no agency from either the leftist or rightist perspective – even here people are saying that Jeong is just a pawn of the Joos.
I find myself wondering which alt-right Occidental tormentor Jeong was defensively “mimicking” in her many, many, cop-hating tweets:
Perhaps we should save time and call him “Officer Monahan”.
Since we refuse as a society to get the necessary testosterone supplementation required, it seems, to robustly defend our Constitution and longstanding traditions….even our right to exist, please!…. let us try a different tack.
Lord knows, for instance, if I were to receive explicit DEATH THREATS via either social media, e-mail, snail mail or the rickety ol’ telephone, I would take these so seriously that the first thing I’d do would be to immediately make copies or otherwise preserve a record of them, to provide to the authorities; and if the authorities found their hands tied for whatever reason, to use in some civil sense to mete out punishment to the threat-maker(s) or otherwise achieve some type of restitution or satisfaction.
LIKE MOST PEOPLE WOULD.
So why can we not insist, as a society, that for someone to demand the spotlight and merit uncritical belief in their claims because they have terrorized by “alt-Right death threats”, that proof of such threats be provided. How about proof of ONE?
Considering we now live in an America too squeamish to write laws punishing political violence performed while wearing a mask (considering the rich-kid status of overwhelming numbers of Antifa, a salutary manifestation of “white privilege”, eh?) could we at least require all future Jeongs to document their alibis for, oh let’s say, publicly rooting for the murder of policemen with some kind of verifiable Proof of White Torment?
Leftist thinking has fooled millions all over the globe for over a century now, because people are easily fooled. See Animal Farm. Orwell was writing about Communists but it works just as well on whites, with a slight twist. The modern appeal to white people is “you have been living in the big house for all these years – that’s unfair, come live in the barn with us.” But of course the reality is that the leaders of the anti-white gang just want the big house for themselves.
I’m not entirely sure Heather MacDonald has ever had an original thought in her life.
And she won’t be collecting a handsome government pension in three years. What a loser.
“It’s interesting to speculate what set off the sizable public reaction against Jeong when similar anti-white hate has been building up for years:”
She’s Asian, so the democrat base won’t cover for her like they would a NAM. Sacrificial lamb? The other suggestions are good, though. Especially the Korean one.
“When and if a tape recording or other evidence emerges that Trump is aware of HBD (such as saying that on average Jews are more careful and diligent business accountants than African-Americans) the alt-right can counter that a NYTimes editorial board member (our secret ally Sarah) has said much worse about whites.”
Don’t count on it. These extremists always double down. They’d say that she was joking and Trump was serious and, somehow, this makes it totally different.
One tweet that stuck out for me was this:
“Are white people predisposed to burn faster in the sun, thus logically only being fit to live underground like groveling goblins?”
I play a lot of golf. The only golfers I see carrying around umbrellas on bright sunny days are Koreans. They’re obsessed with not turning dark, lest they be confused with Jungle Asians.
Projection, it’s a way of life for Sarah Jeong.
“She sneers at such “mundanities” as dates and times that refute Jackie’s narrative, a remarkable stance, one might think, for a journalist. …”
Not mention for a graduate of a law school. And Harvard no less! And whatinhell does “they own the truth” mean? Own “what”? What “truth”? Pseudo academic gibberish.
The contortions and evasions make sense when you realize it all comes down to 2 words:
“Die, whitey.”
Worked up just means don’t feed the troll.
The goal is/was (supposed to be) deracination. It’s devolved into a rationalization for snobbery on the part of the deracinated.
You seem to be referring to me? I will not be collecting a handsome government pension in three years. I will, however, be receiving a decently sized Social Security check in…ten, or so. As well as enjoying the benefits of a SEP-IRA I began in my late 20s and carried through all my twenty or so years of self-employment.
MacDonald, on the other hand, has been a long-term employee of a non-profit, and has worked for the government on occasion, so I’m not sure why you think her form of tax-payer funded employment is superior to mine. She gets paid more, of course.
I don’t think she’s a loser.
Did you have a point? Or even a correct assertion about my life plans or my opinions?
“Sarah Jeong, the New York Times’ embattled new editorial board member,… is a “racist,” as her critics put it. It is that she is an entirely typical product of the contemporary academy.”
So true, so apparent, yet the academy will not change – they don’t even feel embarrassed. That’s the sad thing. To observe how far our academy has drifted away from Plato’s original. Yet, you have to admit the success of the business model. Prices and profits are up, and that is all they seem to care about.
In vino veritas est and In academy mendacium est.
I can’t keep track of your biographical fictions.
You said something asinine and unreasonable the issue of whatever drives your personal animus against people more accomplished than yourself. Don’t be stupid and double-down on shabby lapses.
I think there’s something to be said for the fact that Jeong is cute. She’s got that cute sherbert colored hair in her old pics and she prefers white men to any other kind when she’s not calling for our extinction.
If she had been an ugly Jewish gal like Stephany Herold, who used to work at an abortion clinic/abortion advocacy group and proudly tweeted that she encouraged white women who came in for natal counseling to get abortions while discouraging black women from doing so, nobody would have cared.
That’s B.S. I see other conservative intellectuals cite her all the time.
Please stop with the “to a neutral observer” crap. It’s transparent and just makes you look like a weird douchebag with a personal vendetta against Heather Mac Donald.
Look at you with your mouth watering
Look at you with your mind spinnin’
Why don’t we just admit it’s all over
She’s just the girl you want
Because she was born that way?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3853334/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
Koreans really stigmatize mental illness. The twinkster is super sensitive about that. I’ve trolled on it before and he really goes on and on. One can see why he didn’t make it in academia, you’ve got to embrace your mental illness there and make it work for you. What’s de name of dat river in Egypt?
http://www.intheforefront.org/in-korea-there-is-no-mental-health-barriers-to-treatment/
Speaking of douché-bags … you misread ER’s post. Read it again, and pay attention to the quotation marks.
Almost as if it’s not so easy to teach outsiders to weave the word magic as slickly as the tribe that originated it does. Or something.
I think we’re narrowing in on Educational Realist’s identity. He’s the same age as Heather Mac Donald and went to the same high school as her … where she made an unfortunate comment about his anatomy during Seven Minutes in Heaven.
Those darn French homos and their rigid control of the “American” media! When will we break free of their domination of The Narrative? smh
(((They))) don’t think that, of course (lower level true believers aside). Ideologies are like women — you judge them by what they do, not what they say. Attempting to understand this kind of scam based on its apparent assumptions, and its own “logic,” is a fool’s game. They think whites are the enemy — all of this is simply a weapon; a stick to beat Whitey with.
Once they’ve promoted the “white guilt” canard for long enough, and established the trope of “racism” as an original sin that is specific to Whitey (and one that cannot be redeemed) solidly enough, they expect whites to be complicit in their own demise. To continue to believe that just a little more self-hatred; a little more appeasement, will be enough.
Are they pushing it too hard, too fast? I certainly hope so. That’s the historical pattern — not knowing when to let up; getting overconfident; pushing it too far.
And yes, it is rather ironic that it is precisely the relatively low ethnocentrism of the European peoples (and their diaspora) that makes them vulnerable to the “racism” long con. Imagine trying that with Somalis.
The pursuit of ethos primarily through pathos. A recurring leftist tendency.
That sounds suspiciously correct, but I don’t understand why. What possible benefit accrues to her, by dodging the widespread assumption that she’s likely to be smart & well-behaved?
‘Fellow White people’ works like a charm. No one but the race-realist right can both decode and respond to Jews’ ‘fellow White people’ routine.
Regular conservatives have to wait for a non-White to express hatred of Whites – then they can pile on (Kaepernick, Jeong).
I would not call her cute compared to the best looking Korean girls:
Yes, both are verbal and voluble. They are dazzling in debate. “Gradually I began to hate them.”
I’m taking it you’ve never met a Korean female.
Doesn’t ‘mac’ mean ‘son of’? What is the female equivalent?
That’s hilarious.
I’ll paraphrase Mr. Sailer. Who hired whom?
You mean comments such as this? http://www.unz.com/isteve/heather-mac-donald-on-sarah-jeong/#comment-2459719
Fair enough.
Jelani Cobb makes this statement in his latest unpacking of Sarah Jeong’s tweets. Not sure what he means.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/sarah-jeong-and-the-question-of-context
Yeah what you have to realize about Sarah Jeong is that she is doing that thing where she expresses her heart. You know how evangelicals were all about being “born-again”? She’s doing that except she’s pledging to the church of BLM.
If you remember, BLM was really pushing the “why aren’t you with us” plea. It was black nationalism, and in the academy that is one step higher to the pinnacle of wokeness.
Not to mention the loathsome Alex Kuczynski.
Been wondering that myself. What are these white racist tweets that she was responding in kind to? Does anyone know that they even exist?
I like her angle. Charges of racism, bigotry, etc. just roll right off the back of any devout progressive. But they cannot stand being ignored, or labeled as dull, boring, fake, old, etc.
Nobody really reads the National Review anymore, so this won’t have much influence, but try it out on your progressive acquaintances sometime. Next time one of them goes recruiting for a white privilege conference, respond with: “Gee, Sarah, I sure would love to join you, but I’m coming down with a pretty severe case of Who Gives a F*ck. Do you have any hobbies that were popular after the 70s? Maybe we could go shopping for earth tones and shoulder pads.” and watch the fireworks.
I’m serious, by the way. If you’re rallying your own side, sure, call them anti-white degenerates. But if you really want to get under their skin, demean their status and authenticity, because it’s all that defines who they are.
Steve Sailer wonders “what set off the sizable public reaction”? As I see, the NYT and similar organs frequently treat white people badly, but they’ve sort of got you blocked if you try to demonstrate it. For example, their article on how bad it is to work in Hollywood “if you’re not a straight white male” never mentions Jews, but you’d be antisemitic to point that out and even if you did, they could reply that Jews are included in the “white”. Or if you say, okay, NYT, you’ve run a gazillion pieces by black people complaining about white racism, how about balancing things a bit with a few articles about blacks’ faults? Ah, but if you did that, you’d just be showing how racist you are, how unfeeling and depravedly indifferent to centuries of oppression. But then here comes little Miss Jeong, blasting out her tweets without regard as to the niceties of the game. F*** white people, more or less verbatim. Well, by what we all thought were the rules of the game, that should disqualify her. But no, the NYT (and plenty of its pals) say, hey, her heart’s in the right place, she’s fighting for our side, she stays. At which point a lot of white people who honestly thought the other side was playing fair might start to realize that it ain’t so.
There is.
This groveling goblin is having a difficult time not being intrigued by her.
No one else? It’s not that uncommon. I’d say about five percent of people who spell their name with those letters, separate the “Mac” from the “Donald”. I’ve certainly seen many other people do it over the years.
I used to read theverge.com regularly. They regularly covered race + diversity issues, and criticized tech companies for hiring low numbers of black+hispanic workers. The comment section was outraged, and theverge banned my comment account, and turned off comments for most racially charged coverage.
Here is one such article written by Ms. Jeong:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/16/16153740/tech-diversity-problem-science-history-explainer-inequality
Left media such as Vox/NYT/Jeong twist news and stats to raise status of the migrant/non-white group and lower status of the white/non-migrant group. Even when similar studies give stats pointing in the opposite direction, they can reverse their interpretation accordingly.
Some studies say that immigrants have lower crime rates than white/non-migrants, this shows how amazing the people of the former group are and how inferior/resentful the the latter group is. If other studies show that white people have lower crime rates than non-whites, well, this isn’t because whites are nice, kind, law abiding people, but because they are sinister racists that have built unfair systems of oppression that harm the non-white victims.
Similarly, with academic success or job success. If some stat shows that migrants are more successful in schools or on the job market than non-migrant whites, it shows how hard working and noble and great the former are and how lazy and bad the latter are. If another stat shows whites more successful in schools or on the job market than blacks/hispanics, well that’s not because the whites are hard working or skilled or good people, but because they are sinister racist villains with invisible backpacks of privilege.
Next, the culture warriors of the right should hammer this in. If NYT can successfully brand Roseanne Barr and her entire show as racist villains because of a single heat-of-the-moment tweet, NYT and Vox Media should be similarly branded over defending Ms. Jeong after hundreds of far more explicitly racist tweets and formal racist journalism.
Sarah Jeong isn’t really hating as much as strutting and crowing. This is the pure mob-like behavior that in other contexts is known as “soccer hooliganism.” Nobody unleashes verbal fusillades full of violence like that unless they believe that A) They are safely among their own kind; and B) No negative consequences will ever come back upon them personally.
In cultural matters there is always a generational multiplier effect. Those extreme Leftist views which Jeong’s teachers and professors merely played with, hinted at, implied, or encouraged became for her and her cohort a set of self-evident truths which they lacked the experience and prudence not to implement. They will go on implementing them as long as there are no negative consequences for doing so; and past a certain point, even negative consequences will not deter them.
It’s like, if you grew up in a family where everyone rooted for the Broncos, then (assuming you had no reason to rebel against your family), you probably rooted for the Broncos too. But since you did so from a much earlier and more impressionable age, your attachment to the team is deeper, more connotated, and completely intertwined with the whole slew of childhood memories and formative experiences. The Broncos have now become large and unexamined facet of your whole worldview. If your dad hung a poster out in the garage and took you to games on your birthday, you might have season tickets and living room full of paraphernalia. Then, if you happen to get socked in the mouth one day by some equally determined Kansas City fan at a tailgate party, you would probably just join the fray without ever stopping to think, “What, exactly, am I fighting about?” By that time, Bronco Nation has become for you a fully internalized and sublimated complex of meanings that you belong to in a completely tribal fashion.
Cultural Marxism is tribalized Leftism, and the Millennial generation is the realized nationality of this tribe, the fruit of the liberal formative experience. They are “a nation within a nation” and it is too late to assimilate them to anything else. Sarah Jeong will be defended by the Left because her outbursts are acceptable ritual expressions in her own milieu, and the public outrage over her tweets derives from the belated realization that this alien tribe has colonized us.
I can’t help noticing that Sarah Joeng is a 30 year old Harvard Law School graduate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Jeong) who doesn’t use her otherwise highly valuable law degree for anything whatsoever. Instead she writes about technology, which is something she presumably knows much less than nothing about. What in world is the NYT thinking about in including her in their editorial staff? Beyond belief, if you ask me.
She seems like she has Histrionic Personality Disorder. I always remember that 2% of humans are psychopaths. Check-out: Hare’s Checklist Haha – weird thought: I wonder if she would put her psychotic, rage-against-white-people thoughts on hold if she meets the nice white parents of a new boyfriend? Would she lie? Would she feel rage? Would she feel unfairly stymied that she can’t say the f word? The Patriarchy may overwhelm her!
Nowadays, writing the plain, unvarnished truth requires an original mind of the first order.
We and what army?
I.e. no.
Exactly
“What, “fellow whites” are not on top economically?”
Oy, business is terrible these days!
All right, then. How come her dad, or granddad, or great-granddad, put a gap where nobody else does?
Heather Mac Donald has been subtly SWPL-unpersoned, by removal of the more sterling pieces of academic history from her Wikipedia biography. It used to list her summa cum laude from Yale, the very competitive graduate fellowship, admission to the top doctoral program in her field, and an appelate clerkship after Stanford law school. Not any more! This counts, I guess, as some sort of ritual humilation in the world of Ivy League think-tank elites.
The Wikipedia page used to contain the following (as of March 2018 when I copied it into an iSteve comment)
and was much the same at the inception of the page in 2007:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heather_Mac_Donald&oldid=107135692
Somebody doesn’t want Heather to look too smart.
Can’t help yourself can you? A little compulsive aren’t we? You never did send me your Judo School address.
Unfortunate Trump didn’t hire her. She’s kind of a sexy/chill version of Steve Bannon.
Well you can edit it right back in yourself.
He called me a TROLL?!? That’s ad hominem! He should address the merits of my argument.
Also, this whole episode has little to do with Koreans or Asians.
Yes and No. This nuttiness certainly didn’t begin with Asians. Some might argue that certain boomer professors were influenced by Maoism during the Cult Revolution, but I think May 68 and Berkeley nuttery would have happened anyway in the West. Besides, the Maoist faction in Western leftism was in the minority.
So, Asians are just following along. But, because there are so many Asians in colleges and because we are seeing more and more of them in media and academia spouting PC as teacher’s pets, it does matter. It could become an Asian thing, as Wesley Yang discussed.
Asians can be the best or worst allies of whites. It all depends on who has the power, authority, and status. If white Christian patriots controlled media and academia, I guarantee people like Jeong would be nice little Christian patriots. But guess who the masters of US media and academia are? So, Asians lean that way and bark at their command.
But one silver lining about proggy Asians is they make PC look very uncool. And as people are not afraid of Asians, they are more than willing to shout back. Whites are afraid of blacks, both physically and morally because the Slave Narrative and MLK cult haven been drummed into everyone. Whites are afraid of Jews… and even Homos.
But if Asians talk shit, whites will shout back. So, yellowization of PC may be what this country needs. It will take the glow off PC.
Even progs hated Madame Mao.
Yoko-Ono-PC. Everyone hated Yoko.
Nearly 40 percent of the comments in this thread are by Twinkie or in reply to him. The same happens in any iSteve thread on some Asian subject, and much of it is no more than petty, interpersonal and dishonest trolling from someone who boasts about having a lot of free time on his hands.
It would be better for Twink to get his own blog, and stop spiting the host and readers with the deluge of crud.
Let us welcome the Yoko-ization of PC.
“What, “fellow whites” are not on top economically?”
Are Asians ‘yellow whites’? Their presence in Silly Valley isn’t regarded as Diversity.
“She sneers at such “mundanities” as dates and times that refute Jackie’s narrative, a remarkable stance, one might think, for a journalist. …”
Not mention for a graduate of a law school. And Harvard no less! And whatinhell does “they own the truth” mean? Own “what”? What “truth”? Pseudo academic gibberish.
Hardly surprising. The Russian Collusion BS has been cooked out of the thin air, and the narrative is still pushed. You see, Trump and Putin and Bannon raped Hillary in a dark room on broken glass.
And BLM? Even now, people put up their hands even though Michael Brown didn’t say ‘hands up, don’t shoot’.
People prefer symbolic morality to real morality based on truth. It’s so much easier. It’s like Christian Warriors. They never acted Christian. They raped, pillaged, plundered, and etc like the rest of them. But they felt righteous be kneeling and holding their swords like crucifixes and praying to Jesus and running the fixed narrative of ‘Christian saints oppressed by Pagans and heathens’ over and over and over. How easier to be a symbolic moralist than a real one.
Same with free speech. It is now a symbol than a real principle. Progs say we are for ‘free speech’(in the symbolic sense) but not for ‘hate speech’, which is really just free speech they don’t like.
Jeong grew up in this media climate. No matter how much truth comes out, it’s back to grounday-hog of Russia meddled in US elections. And Russia invaded Georgia. And Russia invaded Crimea. And US is in Syria to fight terrorism when the US enabled terrorism against Assad.
As establishment GOP goes along with most of globo-imperialism and joins in the lies, our culture prefers official lies as new truth. And on the occasion when the elites admit they were wrong, they murmur something and then sink it down the memory hole.
We need a News Site called Memory Hole that constantly spits out what has been sunk into it.
You are assuming that these people are interested in a rational conversation. They take their attitudes from Chingis Khan when he heard some of his commanders discussing their favourite pastimes.
[What, in all the world, could bring the greatest happiness?]
“The open steppe, a clear day, and a swift horse under you,” responded the officer after a little thought, “and a falcon on your wrist to start up hares.”
“Nay,” responded the Khan, “to crush your enemies, to see them fall at your feet — to take their horses and goods and hear the lamentation of their women. That is best.”
SJWs never miss an opportunity to stick it to their ideological enemies and to ensure that well-paid and influential jobs are reserved for them and their friends.
When we get the chance to give them a taste of their own medicine, we ram it back down their throats with extra bile.
They don’t even agree with the idea of a logical debate. They have moved beyond logic. They are post-modernists.
I never find Twinkie’s posts to be crud. We have Tiny Duck for that.
That’s funny coming from one who defends “education realist” and her selfless, objective, and utterly honest expositions about those dastardly cheaters and unoriginal hacks who have done better in life than she has.
You know what I find curious about the recent spate of “petty, interpersonal and dishonest trolling” toward me? It’s picked up considerably ever since I became more critical about our Jewish elites.
I agree with you completely about Heather. I’ve met her briefly and she exudes intelligence.
Perhaps @education realist meant to type Sarah Jeong and accidentally put in Heather MacDonald’s name? Doesn’t make sense in context otherwise.
Asian-American sensibility in a nutshell: “Hey, hey, big quiet, this is library. I must study for anti-white Diversity studies final. Must get A to get good job.”
“I’m not entirely sure Heather MacDonald has ever had an original thought in her life”
That makes sense if this is the only piece of hers you’ve ever read but making a bold statement like that implies that you have read more which boggles the mind. Are you just fishing for replies for self validation? The statement above makes sense if that was your motivation.
Sorry, read further posts from education realist and realize he (she?) really does hate Heather Mac Donald. And sounds like a weird douchebag, as the other guy said.
I can do both. NYT proves how racist they are by hiring racist Sarah Jeong. The same NYT that doxes, harasses, and sees White men fired for saying the same kind of things. This shows how bankrupt the J-Left is, and how the NYT is the crown jewel in their racist regime. They practice racism against you, while they persecute you for your counter-racism, White man.
Obviously the words have plenty of meaning for leftists and cucks. Use their weapons against them.
This. Every day that broad stays on at NYT is a blessing.
There’s a new Spike Lee movie out about a black police detective who infiltrates the Klan over the phone. When they ask to meet him, he can’t go for obvious reasons, so he sends his Jewish deputy under his name (this was before the days when black people had D’shawntavious type names – nowadays this would never work).
Anyway, I don’t think the detective could have sent Sarah Jeong to infiltrate the Klan. Also we know that from the POV of black people, most consider Jews to be just another variety of oppressive white person. On a good day, Asians can get away with being “People of Color” at least in academic circles if not in the ghetto. Sarah Jeong bases her whole shtick on being a “Woman of Color”.
Jeong’s agency isn’t so much absent, as irrelevant. She’s navel lint. The important thing about her is that (((NYT))) hired her. The J-Left created her, too, of course, paeans to agency notwithstanding.
If that was a sentence, I would be able to express my agreement, or lack thereof.
‘Cept those pics are old and she’s not cute anymore.
That aside, I think Steph’s racism might become more of an issue IF THE FUCKING NEW YORK TIMES KNOWINGLY HIRED HER.
The media has been hiring a lot of 100-115 IQ black women lately, judging from the quality of the extrusions I’ve been reading. Asian women with a 20 or so IQ point advantage over their black competitors need some political angle to justify hiring somebody like them on the margin of being non-diverse like them. E.g., Inkoo Kang.
You’re looking really bad here insulting one of the right’s MVPs.
To spell it out for you:
1. She’s a race realist who doesn’t come off as an antisocial kook, but slides it in carefully and matter of factly.
2. She provides well supported, intellectual defenses for police practices that are effective and popular with the public, but on the receiving end of endless attacks by the left, and even some elements of the right. For example, Cato Institute and the Koch Brothers increasingly also push the left’s awful “racist police too many prisons” ideas.
3. Simply for morale’s sake, our brave policemen deserve strong defenses by conservative intellectuals, and Mac Donald does this like nobody else.
There is simply no reason anyone here should ever say a negative word about her.
The rare double ad hominem or is this a piggybacked ad hominem? In either case — Bravo!
Jeong got into Harvard law through affirmative action
She isn’t smart enough to do much in the tech/writing/legal worlds
Beautiful white women scoop up the most desirable men- handsome guys with lotsa cash, talent and status. Most of whom are white
She comes from an affluent background and feels entitled to the best , but she realizes her status will be limited by her looks, ethnicity and relatively low intelligence
I doubt there are any professional journalists with IQs below 110. Maybe ask a high school English teacher in a middle class area to show you what a B student’s writing with a 900 SAT score looks like. People in the 100-110 range can certainly write letters, jokes, facebook comments, etc. But typing out article-length organized prose is beyond the ability of about 75% of white adults.
As for black v Asians in journalism, IQ is relevant here of course, but so is interest and practice. NE Asians just seem to have a lot less of the joy that whites, Africans, and high caste South Asians do with expressing themselves with language.
Black teens love sitting around and making up rhyming rap lyrics on the fly. And then in college they do something similar with poetry slams. Blacks use twitter at a very high rate. I recently noted the black lady running for governor of Georgia wrote a number of romance novels under a pseudonym.
The love of public speaking often evolves into a love of writing and a desire to write as a profession.
NYT posted a grand total of 2 of them, not even clear if they were tweets or private messages, and were redacted with 0 context.
Meanwhile Jeong’s anti-white tweets encompassed her entire time on Twitter and were in the 100s.
We put some, not all Japanese nationals and US citizens of Japanese ancestry into camps mainly because of several bombing incidents (terrorism today) along the West coast. We also interned some German and Italian Americans.
Its called total war. Compare what we did against what other warring nations did. Tame.
“Reading maketh a full man, conference a ready man, and writing an exact man.”
- Bacon
I wanted her, that new one she endorsed, and I wanted Stephen Coughlin, whose expertise collided with the Muslim Brotherhood takeover.
True perhaps, but she still has a dog face. Asian women who date whites are the equivalent of white women that date blacks. Assuming she cannot “go back” or “they don’t want you back”, she is probably now has to date down another tier or two. Paging Chateau Heartiste.
16 Twinkie > among Asians, Indians are on top in America, not NE Asians
there’s a Korean-immersion charter school in Minneapolis, which has some round-eye kids attending.
I haven’t found a Hindi-immersion ANYTHING outside of India
Language is destiny, which is why the ACTUAL “nakba” happened in 1883, when a Hebrew-speaking kindergarden opened in Jerusalem
there’s a tiny tiny tiny quantity of people in the world who want to SPEAK Latin as a vernacular , but so far none of them has figured out that they could leverage themselves (and their bank accounts?) by latching onto Euro-nationalism with Latin
47 [337] > Jews are right to be afraid, because not only are Asians similarly capable and tribal, they’re just a bit more numerous
Jeong ain’t no Andrea Dworkin
“we have the best TrumpDerangementSyndrome, folks!”
even white guys can out-innovate the East Asians, any day of the week.
Latin is huge in Finland. Go figure.
“Model minority” = “Uncle Tom” for non-blacks. It’s the Left’s way of turning other groups with no legitimate gripe against us by playing on their insecurities.
Whereas, I went my entire youth thinking, “What a fine bunch of guys my Asian classmates are,” little did I know they were my humiliated junior partners in white supremacy.
Asians who buy into it are overcompensating for their insecurity about lacking coolness as a group.
No, but she’s definitely cuter than your average intellectual SJW chick. That’s why she got the reaction.
Here’s a thought: what if Sarah Jeong’s racist tweets were really her way of flirting with her largely white male readership? Like she was just whipping them up into a frenzy for some virtual angry sex? It’s not hard for me to imagine her typing a lot of these tweets with one hand down her pants.
In this aspect Jeong reminds me of a certain type of Asian engineering student from my university days. These chaps could study their ass off, ace any test and finish any degree, but at the same time they were too disagreeable to work in teams and too uncreative to actually design anything interesting. I could never imagine them actually working as engineers with the degree.
Jeong seems like a more literate version of the type.
“On a good day”? Heck, then there is a lot of bad days for Asians. Guess what? Blacks absolutely loathe Koreans. The L.A. Riots ring any bells? Those weren’t Jews having gun fights with black gangs. And NE Asians are “BadAsians” in “academic circles.” Again, why do you think Harvard prefers “Indians, Nepalis,” etc.?
As others have noted, she isn’t on record as having taken a bar exam or finishing her law degree.
Some people here think I am Tiny Duck. Now that I’ve dared to criticize our Jewish elites, they probably think I’m some white guy posing as a PoC.
This is very interesting to me. Black Harvard Law graduates and black law school graduates in general are not working as lawyers five or ten years after their J.D., while Asians generally are. This makes me think that Jeong might have been a rare affirmative action Asian at Harvard Law, not bright enough to make partner or even survive and as an assistant U.S, attorney, too antisocial to make it as a general counsel, and too lazy to go for a law professor gig. The average black will do two years or so as an in-house “black billable hours” glorified paralegal, get the no-partnership tap on the shoulder, then go on to be a consultant or nonprofit manager or writer or something you don’t need a law degree for. But unlike Mickey Kaus or Ann Coulter, the fact that the law degree is not used is not a slight embarassment, but rather is put forward as a credential.
“Now that I’ve dared to criticize our Jewish elites”
Truly a daring act to critique Jews on Unz.com.
Here is your medal, wear it with pride, you earned it.
Aha, now I’m a Nazi. Predictable.
And I didn’t criticize Jews – I criticized Jewish elites. Unlike some here, I’m not an eliminationist. I mean well toward ALL my fellow Americans if good will. I just want those elites to change their behaviors and become patriotic.
Torture an Indian: require brevity.
Or… charge full retail.
NYT proves how racist they are by hiring racist Sarah Jeong.
You don’t seem to get the joke: if (nearly) everyone’s a racist, what use/value does the word have as an epithet?
Use their weapons against them.
As a ‘weapon’, that word didn’t work against the NYT, did it?
I assume you are a white nationalist, or have strong white nationalist sympathies — simple question: do you care if anyone calls you a racist? — is that word an effective ‘weapon’ against you? — given what’s at stake, will it shut you up or cause you to change your views?
For me the answer is a definite “LOL” no — so why would I ever use it against someone else?
In case anyone was wondering: the Atlantic article was written by Adam Serwer, a Jew.
Here’s a 10 year old piece in Mother Jones from the opposition that grudgingly praises Heather Mac Donald for her effectiveness: Know Your Enemy: Heather Mac Donald
‘nic’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Gaelic_name
Out in the real world, people fight to have MORE Diversity Pokemon Points. On Steve’s blog, they fight to have fewer. OK, Twinkie, you win, you are whiter than a Jew.
You’ve got it backwards. Asian women who date white men are dating up, just like black men who date white women.
Asian men are at the bottom of all the dating preference surveys. As are black women.
No, that’s an Armenian!
I lol @ racist accusations too but that isn’t enough. We as a nation have been indoctrinated for the past 50 years by Leftists to see all racists as subhumans, the lowest form of life on earth. This is why white people are suddenly flipping out now that the Left has turned en made to telling white People we’re all racists. What these retarded Robin DiAngelo types interpret as fragility is really just a natural response to their rhetorical effort to dehumanize us.
Racism is a worthless word that means whatever the user wants it to mean in order to suit their immediate circumstances. All of the above makes it incumbent upon us to devalue it as much as possible in other people’s minds by using it *as often as possible*. It is a coinage that gets more debased the more you use it. “If everything is racist, then nothing is racist.”
That’s sort of what I meant except for a Korian-American woman marrying a Korean-American man would be dating across IMHO. By dating down a few more tiers we are talking about black, Hispanic, (((etc.))). I probably could have said it more clearly.
Hey, I apparently am since “Lot” is handing out a Nazi medal. Question: Can a nonwhite be a Nazi? Answer: Does he criticize anything Jews do?
That’s pretty funny.
Or maybe we can do away with “Diversity Pokémon Points” entirely and talk frankly.
The problem with your formulation is that you divide the world into whites vs nonwhites. That’s not how it works in the real world. Blacks and Koreans didn’t hold hands and victimize whites together during the L.A. Riots.
It’s true there is a lot of anti-white ideology built into the post-modern leftism that dominates the mainstream today, but the definition of whiteness is whatever the people who are in charge say it is – hence Silicon Valley is too white/non-diverse, etc.
The thing that’s slippery about Jewish elites today is that since they control the narrative, they slip in and out of whiteness as convenience dictates. So when it’s advantageous to be white, they are white (“What are we goining to do about these white-hating Asians like Sarah Jeong, fellow whites?”). When not, they are Diverse and claim the ultimate Victimhood (“The Holocaust,” pogroms, anti-Semitism, even Jewish cemeteries aren’t safe!” etc.).
Let’s be real. Which person would get fired and never be hired again on TV – the person who criticizes NE Asians or the one who criticizes Jews?
Asian men date black women – problem solved! Only problem is that they might be crushed to death.
And yet they do well in the marriage market. What a paradox.
Okay, if you get to post a Nazi medal, so do I. Heads up, Mr. Sailer, and let this one through, why don’t ya?
Anyway, I think your efforts deserve at least a commemorative medal too.
We don’t want anybody feeling left out, do we?
I once overheard an old Indian (dot, not feather, and as dark as Indians come) talking to someone about something or other and someone mentioned Hitler.
The old guy got mad.
” I must protest your maligning Sri Hitler and the pandits of Germany!” , or words very similar, were what he said.
Is this from “Zionism in the Age of the Dictators” by Lenni Brenner?
It’s a great read but I no longer have a copy.
If you can’t keep track of my biography, then best not to attempt snidely snarking about it.
I said nothing asinine or unreasonable. Didn’t require anyone to agree with me, either. Unlike some folks, I’m quite happy making an observation of personal preference without expecting agreement or feeling the need to assuage petty group thinkers and wannabes who think there’s a Big Book of These Are All The Best Thinkers.
Read the piece when it came out. I have her book on immigration, which was gifted me the year it was published. Thought she was a dull hack back then. Go teach eggsucking to grandmas.
I was going to exhort those of you who think “Heather MacDonald is a dull hack without an original thought” to stop taking it personally but suddenly realized why you do. Carry on.
Lot, perhaps someday when you grow up, you’ll look back on this comment and cringe in embarrassment. I hope you find the confidence someday–and, god willing, the depth of thought–to have opinions of your own, rather than those you infer from trying to think like the group does.
What did you suddenly realize?
For me, it was not because of Jeong herself – women like her are a dime a dozen – but because of the brazenness and viciousness of the ‘respectable’ media actually defending her.
According to the Nazis you are an Honorary Aryan. (Technically they only said the Chinese and Japanese were, but presumably that extends to Koreans).
Both?
I wouldn’t go quite that far. She can and ought to be castigated for the ignorant, kindergarten-level criticisms she lobs at religion.
No. This is the way of postmodernism/nominalism. We cannot make words mean just whatever we want them to mean.
We cannot embrace nominalism ‘strategically’ in order to further our goals. It is not the sort of weapon that can be wielded in a nice and tidy manner to be neatly disposed of after we’ve achieved the goal we’ve set out to accomplish: it is rather a weapon that is bigger than we are, with repercussions that echo far beyond what we will have intended, repercussions that undermine our cause and which are ultimately self-defeating, because it is a philosophy that is opposed to truth.
We cannot defeat the enemy by adopting their very philosophy.
https://zippycatholic.wordpress.com/2014/05/15/why-i-am-anti-anti-concept-and-you-should-be-too/
“There’s no mixing of blood for Koreans. If I marry outside Korea, my parents will kill me.”
Obviously there are exceptions (and there are a lot more exceptions now), but the original reasoning, perhaps as a function of its time, was not about saving fuel.
Nope. Jason Whitlock is still on TV. Where is Rick Sanchez again?
So that’s whom Hitler meant by Herrenvolk.
Sadly for them, this guy outranked them considerably:
Even in the Luftwaffe, you can’t run a complicated modern system without you-know-who.
Or drive Der Fuehrer around and sleep with his niece – the SS member no. 2 after the main man himself: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice
After all that, somehow he survived the war and justice and died peacefully. Truly some people are the Chosen.