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Another less than stunning revelation from Hollywood:

Brett Ratner, Prominent Producer, Accused of Sexual Misconduct
By RACHEL ABRAMS NOV. 1, 2017

Who’s next? Jack Lipnick?

 
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  1. Put this article through the google translate. Claude Lanzmann, director of the Holocaust documentary Shoah – no business like Shoah Business – seems to be another Weinstein.

    https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2017/10/18/metoo-oftewel-hij-ook-13559309-a1577724

    Elie Weisel is also a bit grabby it seems: http://heebmagazine.com/elie-wiesels-sexual-conduct-might-be-worse-than-you-think/58036

    I can’t work out if there is a pattern going on with all these revelations.

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    • Replies: @Neoconned
    More targets for the Femquisition. Men are men. Testosterone makes us act that way. I love that phrase "misconduct" as though catcalling it flirting isn't normal and natural.

    In the age of social media journalism there no longer is any editorial process. Just journalistic anarchy. Libel, rumormill, slander, and gossip house mongering are the rule of the day.

    They already took down one of the most important men in Hollywood. This emboldened them so now every bimbo from here to Timbuktu with a bruised ego wants in on the attention racket. Pat me on the back sisters!

    OMG! I can't believe I had to debase and lower myself when I was younger by sucking off or massaging that old fat Jewish guy w back hair! Ewwwwww!

    Let's destroy him now that a dog pile is forming....

    A former president of the United States with dementia was even snared by the Femquisition. He's in a fuckin wheelchair but hey that doesn't matter.

    People forget sexual harassment isn't a crime but at most a civil or personnel issue. But hearing the Twitterati bitch and moan you wouldn't know that would you?

    , @Pat Boyle
    There is a lot of loony posturing over the Hollywood casting couch scandals of Harvey Weinstein. But certain truths are ignored. Much as I hate to get involved in this dispute, it falls to me to set a couple facts straight.

    Harvey Weinstein is a Jew. This has allowed many of the anti-Semites who lurk hereabouts to reveal themselves. This is a Hollywood scandal and Hollywood is a Jewish company town. If there were a pervert or sexual predator in Hollywood who wasn't Jewish - how likely would that be? There don't seem to be any accusations about the Amish, the Sherpas or the Montagnard Boat People. Finding Jews in Hollywood doesn't prove much.

    It is possible that the Jews are especially vile towards women - that they are a clan of rapists. But I've never heard of that in all the movies that Jews have made about themselves. On these sort of issues my go-to authority is Steve Sailer. So what is it Steve? Are Jews preternaturally obsessed with sex - and act on their obsessions?

    If you look at rape statistics the race you would expect those who are 'bad' with women would be Africans and African Americans. The religion of rapists would be Muslims. Jews just don't show up prominently in the public sex crime statistics.

    I'm not in the movie industry but I have spent a lot of my life involved in Opera. It is not unusual for young women to acquire a role in opera through their sexual charms. I suspect that this sort of thing has gone on in Italian Opera for centuries. There are some parts that almost no one can sing (e.g. The Queen of the Night) and there are others that Mozart wrote such that almost any girl with any kind of voice could handle (e.g. Susana or Cherubino in Le Nozze). How is an impresario to choose among the hundreds of young women who show up at the auditions? You know the answer to that question.

    Weinstein didn't invent the practice of taking advantage of girls who want to play dress up and go on the stage.

    Now for something a little more controversial. Girls like to be abused. Not all and not in all cases, but in human beings many females long for a 'strong' man to control them. This is the unspoken secret - that women like men who take advantage of them. Read Richard Feynman's books. He discovered that he was more successful with women at bars when he treated them badly. Or you could just look at the ads on the Web. Hundreds of thousands of women advertise that they want to be tied up and beaten by a 'strong' man. Contrary to the notions of accepted society, a taste for BDSM is far more common than either homosexuality or transgenderism.

    Females who sexually respond to being abused are probably acting out patterns laid down before humans were human. Chimpanzees (our closest relatives) behave this way. The female chimps usually get beaten up by the male chimp as part of their mating rituals. Not all females get beaten by their male but those that do seem to become more fertile. They have more baby chimps. If you know anything of Darwin you can see where that leads. Females who are beaten, out-breed those who escaped that fate, and come to dominate the gene pool. This does not seem to be the pattern among bonobos - but we descend from chimps not bonobos.

    Most of the girls who have been victimized by Hollywood producers knew exactly what they were getting in to. Those that didn't were possibly not the smartest ones. As Henry Kissinger discovered - power is sexy. A fat ugly middle aged Jew can get young girls - ever was it so.
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  2. guest says:

    Ratner was one of them music video directors who made it big, working a lot in the hip-hop genre, as I recall. Say, do you think hip-hoppers ever have trouble with women?

    I wish I had forgotten about this person’s existence, but I happen to have been made aware of a short film he did before his career took off. It was this weird little thing about child actor Mason Reese, who you may not remember as a weird-looking (possible midget) kid from tv commercials in the 70s.

    Anyway, it was a piece of crap, like so many future Ratner efforts. But to hear him tell it the short got Spielberg’s attention, which I guess got him started on the road to Rush Hour. After Rush Hour, he was free to make an seemingly endless stream of crappy to mediocre films. (And produce one really good one called Paid in Fullt. My favorite gangsta movie.)

    Which I always took to be a lie. I checked Wikipedia, and the Spielberg story didn’t even show up. Is it possible he got music videos by feeding ho’s to the right people, then ingratiated himself by giving the Spielbergs of the world…I don’t know. Things? I’m all over the place on these people.

    Or it could be a secret handshake, tribal thing.

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    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    Chosen by God. That's all you need to know. Shut up and eat your shiksa.
    , @whorefinder
    Ratner and McG are in the same category: crap directors who got their start making music videos and then helmed one studio-assembly-line hit movie and somehow that made them household names, even though they suck.

    They both suck, but I somehow hate McG more, simply because he's a big enough prick to have kept the retarded pseudonym of "McG' instead of acting like a grownup and using his real name. Total ass.
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  3. It is a bit more fun to think of Hollywood A-listers who aren’t likely to be accused of sexual harassment by either men or women.

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    It is a bit more fun to think of Hollywood A-listers who aren’t likely to be accused of sexual harassment by either men or women.
     
    Well, I would like to nominate Mitzi Gaynor who came from next to nowhere to win the plum movie role of Nellie Forbush in South Pacific and then retired from movie acting soon afterwards. Obviously she did a fine audition as a naive young woman from Litte Rock, AK who falls in love with a middle aged man. She was known for having great legs, too, as well as the wavy frame of a dame.

    I would also like to nominate Audrey Hepburn who snatched the coveted musical movie role of Eliza Doolittle from fellow Brit Julie Andrews despite the minor handicap of not actually being able to sing. My Fair Lady still won the Best Picture Oscar.

    And finally I would like to nominate Julie Andrews as the greatest Oscar winner never to sleep with a producer, oh, wait a minute... reader, she married him.

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  4. 22pp22 says:

    Off topic. Question to fellow Sailerites from a non-American.

    How much danger is Trump in?

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    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    What are you talking about?
    , @Josh
    Like physical danger?
    , @MBlanc46
    They’re about to employ a full court press against him. It could get very ugly very soon.
    , @Mr. Anon

    How much danger is Trump in?
     
    His agenda has largely been co-opted, and he is not really a threat to the establishment. So, not much.
    , @Steve in Greensboro
    Ignore the American Lying Press. If Trump builds the Mexican border wall (and radically restricts immigration), he will be re-elected in 2020. His fate is in his own hands.
    , @Clyde
    Donald Trump is cruising along at 50/50 approval that the polls you are seeing do not indicate. Matters are at a stalemate right now in the US. No advantage to Trump or the forces arrayed against him which (obviously) are not just Democrats. We are in steady state.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    I've seen you comment before, so I know that you're serious. You've seen the other commenters, so you know opinions differ. I don't think Trump is in any particular physical danger. But the Mueller investigation seems to have expanded far beyond the original "Russian interference in the 2016 presidential elections" mandate (surprise, surprise). I think that Mueller is looking at every aspect of Trump's business history with an eye to finding as many arguable violations of criminal law as possible. He'll then prosecute as many Trump associates as possible, and dump the Trump allegations into Congres's lap for an impeachment decision.

    Will he succeed? My take is that Trump's base is pretty disappointed, although I might be projecting here. Democratic gains in the 2018 elections may make an impeachment possible. Conviction in the Senate is more difficcult, but Trump might just decide the game isn't worht the candle at his age and resign. Pence will probably be a more willing tool of the Deep State and cuckservative Republicans.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    That's a deep question. His level of danger is inversely proportional to how much he conforms to The Powers That Be.

    So far, he does not appear to be the comprehensive threat to TPTB that we voted for. He's a mixed bag.

    He is defying political correctness and trying to cut some forms of immigration, but so far there are zero miles of The Wall built and H-1B visas and such continue to roll on and destroy American standards of living and livelihoods at many levels.

    He appears to be doing whatever an executive can about lopsided foreign trade without any help from the legislature, but he kow-tows to China instead of cutting them off and telling them to go to hell. (Yes, we know, that's impossible, right? So we watch the Asian giant slowly devour our world.)

    He is solidly on board with the Zionist plan for the Middle East, and so the wars continue.

    Today's vaunted tax plan does nothing for the bottom line of many of us, though it does simplify things and get rid of some absurd charges on high earners.

    So, Trump is partially revolutionary and partially status quo. Conclusion: He is only in partial danger.

    , @candid_observer
    I'd say that, based on anything that's been produced so far, there's about zero probability Trump will be impeached.

    The only question is: what might be produced in the future against him?

    There I'd guess the likelihood is very low that something important will come up. One would expect it would already have been brought out, or at least brought into clear sight, if it existed.

    I'd generally say that Trump is, if anything, becoming only more formidable a political force over time. He's done a remarkable and rather surprisingly good job of bending the Republican Party to his will and policies, mainly by ending the careers of some NeverTrumpers among the Republicans. This has done much to encourage the others to fall in line. He's also made the immigration issue only more prominent, and more damaging to his opponents.

    , @Unladen Swallow
    Not political danger, but he has had to fight his own party in addition to the Democrats and a very partisan media. He will move the Overton Window if he can get a wall and some form of immigration restriction passed. The Democrats are still in a state of denial and are currently relying on a biased media to hurt him, which is not working.
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  5. Who’s next? Jack Lipnick?

    When Jews are in ‘safe company’ they can be quite revealing and entertaining.

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    Afro-Jews doesn't ring. How about we call them Jew-fros?
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  6. @22pp22
    Off topic. Question to fellow Sailerites from a non-American.

    How much danger is Trump in?

    What are you talking about?

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    Being impeached.
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  7. hhh says:

    Weinstein, Toback, Ratner, Wieseltier, Halperin, Hoffman, Piven, Polanski. white male patriarchy at its worst

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    Weinstein, Toback, Ratner, Wieseltier, Halperin, Hoffman, Piven, Polanski. white male patriarchy at its worst
     
    The other 800 pound gorilla in the room. It ain’t "white folks." It’s cultural, and it’s a Jewish thing.

    Too many Jewish men have major issues with pretty women, especially shiksas. They like to defeat them. Some kind of mom issue? A cultural carry-over of Eastern European Jewish orthodoxy from generations ago, and old habits die hard? Someone here might have far better insight than me as to why. It’s just something I’ve noticed enough in the past to regard it as "a Jewish thing."

    It’s a pattern that’s certainly on display now. It’s just that nobody wants to say it, for some reason.

    I guess doing that is when the gloves really come off.
    , @Titus
    If you ask any Ashkenazi, they will tell you emphatically that they are ethnically not white.
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  8. wren says:

    Perhaps we should turn to Schmuley Boteach for guidance here.

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  9. guest says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Who’s next? Jack Lipnick?
     
    When Jews are in ‘safe company’ they can be quite revealing and entertaining.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyTmEdWZlqA

    Afro-Jews doesn’t ring. How about we call them Jew-fros?

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    • Replies: @Truth
    Actually the technical name for Afro-Jews is "Jews." The name for white Jews is "Jewish", meaning "Jew-like."
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  10. And now Dustin Hoffman!

    The 800 pound gorilla in the room are the men and women who actually partook in surrendering the pink for a plumb role. You might be able to identify them by their deafening silence about now.

    To be absolutely fair, I strongly doubt Harvey’s boldness was all self-generated. Quite a few girls took him up on his offer, and a few benefitted tremendously for it.

    To get on the right track for speculation, think of the guys and gals who seemed to come out of nowhere, and get plumb roles, featured, and especially leading. To make picking easier, who won an Oscar that left you scratching your head? Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough! Cough-dufus-jennifer-cough—lawrence-sniff! Whew! I think I’m allergic to something.

    Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other’s “P for Play” marketing plans? Should these “play by the secret rules” kids be urged to “come out” or be outed? Do they get a “get out of National Shame free” card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we’ll always be sprouting more Harvey’s.

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    • Agree: NickG, whorefinder, Clyde
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough!

    Obviously, Dame Judy Dench or Vanessa Redgrave would have been better in My Cousin Vinny as the Jersey Shore girl who knows all about American cars.

    , @Dave from Oz
    God damn, wouldn't it be great for - say - Heather Graham to openly say "Sure, I sucked Harvey's dick for a role. So what? Now I'm a millionaire! How much did *you* get for sucking dick?"
    , @anonymous
    That would be plum role, I believe. For a plumb roll, though.

    But for these musings of Mr. Sailer, I know essentially nothing of Hollywood - no TV, no movies, none of it. I'm reminded of a stack of old Mad magazines acquired as a boy, parodies of stuff I never saw that were thus, for me, the stuff itself. Entertaining, and comforting in the confirmation that very little of value is being missed.

    So much of what is wrong in our country thrives in mass culture, national governance, etc.

    Buy local? Yes. But consider thinking and living local, too. These creeps deserve nothing but scorn, and none of our time or treasure.
    , @anonymous-antimarxist
    My question is what actors, female and male, for at least the last 40 years have not been subject to sexual abuse???

    While I largely agree with Kevin Macdonald that much of this sexual abuse by male Jewish Hollywood is in part motivated by contempt and a desire for revenge against the goyim.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2017/10/20/harvey-weinstein-revenge-and-domination-as-jewish-motives/

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2017/10/18/harvey-weinstein-on-jews-and-the-shiksa/

    But what about Jewish and part Jewish actors like Corey Haim, Corey Feldman and Gwyneth Paltrow???

    You would think that there would be a level of tribal solidarity that would give them some degree of protection.
    , @Lurker
    Marisa Tomei? Noooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The thought of that clambering all over such an angel is too depressing.

    , @MarcB.
    "The 800 pound gorilla in the room are the men and women who actually partook in surrendering the pink for a plumb role. You might be able to identify them by their deafening silence about now".

    Int the wake of the Cosby Scandal, Bill's high-powered entertainment industry enablers and pimps were glossed over, and the industry bosses without skeletons of their own are largely getting a pass this time around as well. My wife were discussing which of the Miramax girls developed powerhouse careers in the 1990's-2010's and are now conspicuously silent. The curious one's will be those with sustained movie and TV careers in the absence of big box office/ratings or critical praise. A trip down IMDB lane could shed some light on this.

    BTW, I've wondered for years why Natasha Henstridge's career stalled despite being among the hottest actresses of her generation. Her verbal acumen and demeanor belied a girl raised by a biker in an Alberta trailer park, although the favors she admitted to providing to Brett Ratner happen to fit that stereotype. I suspect she was black-balled by Ratner after things got awkward.

    , @Stan Adams
    Before hitting it big, Marisa Tomei did a stint on As the World Turns.

    Her character falsely accused another character - a doctor - of sexual harassment, then recanted the accusation and admitted that the whole thing had been a scam set up by the show's main villain (another doctor at the same hospital).

    A few years later, she tried to make it as a fashion model. During the shoot, the photographer raped her. She suffered a near-total mental breakdown, but later recovered and married a British aristocrat.

    In the mid-'80s, the ATWT cast included such names as Meg Ryan, Julianne Moore, Steven Weber, William Fichtner, and John Wesley Shipp.

    [spergy infodump]

    Shipp played a disturbed restaurateur - a (young) widower with mommy issues. He charmed Moore, who had been dating Weber, into becoming his fiancee, then (with the help of his secretary/accomplice, an older woman with a strong unrequited love for him) kidnapped her along with her aunt and held them at a remote cabin in the Colorado wilderness.

    (The aunt was married to the doctor who had been accused of sexual harassment. The doctor had been married to her late sister - Moore's mother. The aunt, in turn, had been married to the villain, forming a neat little triangle.)

    Moore, an orphan, loved her aunt like a mother; her childless* aunt returned the sentiment. Shipp, also an orphan, *also* loved the aunt like a mother. He had met and befriended her years earlier when the two worked together at a cocktail lounge - he as a busboy, she as a cabaret singer. He misinterpreted her friendly concern as a sign that she was his eternal maternal soulmate. He built a "shrine" to her, the centerpiece of which was a reel-to-reel recording of her signature performance of "Someone to Watch Over Me." He looped it continuously, playing it for hours on end.

    One day, as Moore and Shipp were preparing to fly to Acapulco to elope, she accidentally stumbled upon the shrine, setting off the kidnapping plot.

    Moore learns the truth about Shipp:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9INrjDBJcI#t=28m35s

    The aunt stumbles upon the shrine:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg9lfm33Kjo#t=7m45s

    Moore tries to escape (note the unironic use of the Psycho theme):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2_zoDjeY7I#t=1m25s

    Moore tries to convince Shipp to fly the aunt home:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2E9zGOA5t4#t=40m08s

    *A few years later, it turned out that the aunt *did* have a child, conceived with the doctor while he was still married to the sister. The aunt's resentful nephew - the product of an earlier marriage - was angered by his father-in-law's betrayal of his mother (with his aunt, no less) and conspired with the villain - who likewise had been betrayed by his wife - to have the child written off as "stillborn" and secretly shipped off to England. (Moore ended up playing both characters - for the latter, she had to put on an English accent.)

    [/spergy infodump]
    , @Jim Christian

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we’ll always be sprouting more Harvey’s.
     
    That's the point of BEING a Harvey.
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  11. @Cool McCool
    And now Dustin Hoffman!

    The 800 pound gorilla in the room are the men and women who actually partook in surrendering the pink for a plumb role. You might be able to identify them by their deafening silence about now.

    To be absolutely fair, I strongly doubt Harvey’s boldness was all self-generated. Quite a few girls took him up on his offer, and a few benefitted tremendously for it.

    To get on the right track for speculation, think of the guys and gals who seemed to come out of nowhere, and get plumb roles, featured, and especially leading. To make picking easier, who won an Oscar that left you scratching your head? Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough! Cough-dufus-jennifer-cough—lawrence-sniff! Whew! I think I’m allergic to something.

    Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other's "P for Play" marketing plans? Should these "play by the secret rules" kids be urged to "come out" or be outed? Do they get a "get out of National Shame free" card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we'll always be sprouting more Harvey's.

    Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough!

    Obviously, Dame Judy Dench or Vanessa Redgrave would have been better in My Cousin Vinny as the Jersey Shore girl who knows all about American cars.

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    Obviously, Dame Judy Dench or Vanessa Redgrave would have been better in My Cousin Vinny as the Jersey Shore girl who knows all about American cars.
     
    Doesn't compute, since those women aren't in the age bracket appropriate for the role, but a ton of other better known actresses were. As far as her other achievements at the time, she's probably the only actress who's Oscar win merited an entry regarding it's legitimacy on Snopes:

    https://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/tomei.asp

    Her first significant role was with Harvey's company. That said, she is speaking up on her twitter feed, and that's a good sign.
    , @Sunbeam
    You are evading his contention.

    Cool McCool wrote:

    "Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other’s “P for Play” marketing plans? Should these “play by the secret rules” kids be urged to “come out” or be outed? Do they get a “get out of National Shame free” card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we’ll always be sprouting more Harvey’s."

    What he is saying is big, it is epic, and it is self-explanatory: Virtually everyone who appears in a Hollywood film, male or female, put out to get where they are. In Catch-22 fashion, if they didn't, they don't have the gold ring now.

    Prove or disprove it. Ignore it if you wish. But you know your audience and they aren't the type to be swayed by a clever quip or rejoinder (or Tweet).

    There is apparently a "fake" interview with Brad Pitt out there, where he ruminates on the movie business. Fake Brad apparently said something like "They have a casting call and 1000 people apply. Out of that, probably 100 would work for the role. How do you select among that 100?"

    I have a theory that you California guys are too close to this business (Hollywood). It is pretty common in the rest of America to find a "Let it Burn" attitude towards it. I know I'd supply the match.

    And as at least one poster has repeatedly stated, you have been pretty silent on the Kevin Spacey situation. Or for a blast from the recent past, what about Travolta? There was lots of interesting stuff to apply Haven Monahan's Razor to in that situation.

    You know sometimes I wonder. I read this site, and I see all kinds of things about reaction times, Word Sums, Fields Medals, blah, blah, blah.

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today's world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain't no such thing as nurture.

    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What's more, their movies suck, even the "brainy" ones.

    What's up with that?
    , @James Kabala
    People complain when costume drama/Holocaust/otherwise prestigious movies win the Oscars, yet they can't seem to get over the fact that a woman won an Oscar for a comedy (even though that was in vogue in the era - Kevin Kline and Jack Palance won Best Supporting Oscars for comedies, and no one seemed to mind, although Palance was slandered as drunk by the anti-Tomei fabulists).
    , @Anonymous
    Steve’s got a thing for Marisa, I think
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  12. @hhh
    Weinstein, Toback, Ratner, Wieseltier, Halperin, Hoffman, Piven, Polanski. white male patriarchy at its worst

    Weinstein, Toback, Ratner, Wieseltier, Halperin, Hoffman, Piven, Polanski. white male patriarchy at its worst

    The other 800 pound gorilla in the room. It ain’t “white folks.” It’s cultural, and it’s a Jewish thing.

    Too many Jewish men have major issues with pretty women, especially shiksas. They like to defeat them. Some kind of mom issue? A cultural carry-over of Eastern European Jewish orthodoxy from generations ago, and old habits die hard? Someone here might have far better insight than me as to why. It’s just something I’ve noticed enough in the past to regard it as “a Jewish thing.”

    It’s a pattern that’s certainly on display now. It’s just that nobody wants to say it, for some reason.

    I guess doing that is when the gloves really come off.

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    • Replies: @whorefinder

    Too many Jewish men have major issues with pretty women, especially shiksas. They like to defeat them. Some kind of mom issue?
     
    Jews have, on average, much more sexual perversion than non-Jews. People commented on this freely for a very long time, and then Jews decided that they were the normal ones and everyone else was "repressed" and needed to be "liberated" from their repression, and made up some unsupported "psychoanalysis" nonsense to justify why everyone needed to be pegged and have multiple sex partners.

    That sexual "liberation" has made a lot of goyim quite miserable, but nobody in mainstream culture says so, because who controls the megaphone?

    , @mobi

    Too many Jewish men have major issues with pretty women, especially shiksas. They like to defeat them. Some kind of mom issue? A cultural carry-over of Eastern European Jewish orthodoxy from generations ago, and old habits die hard? Someone here might have far better insight than me as to why. It’s just something I’ve noticed enough in the past to regard it as “a Jewish thing.”
     

    By the way, is a preference for cornering female near-strangers, dropping your pants, and masturbating in front of them ‘a thing’, or just a (((thing)))?
    Let’s conduct a survey. I have three examples, so far:
    1) (((Jabba Weinstein)))
    2) an unnamed Hollywood big-wig (((producer))), targeting Kathie Lee Gifford:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4963526/Kathie-Lee-Gifford-forced-watch-producer-masturbate.html
    3) Uber-feminist liberal and bad-white mocker (((Louis CK))):
    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/louis-ck-confronts-sexual-misconduct-rumors_us_59b7b3ade4b09be41657e3e9
    I have an open mind about this.
     

    4) (((James Toback)))
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5005765/Thirty-women-accuse-James-Toback-sexual-harassment.html
    Ok, in fairness, he might be 2)
     
    5) Brett Ratner:

    Olivia Munn said that while visiting the set of the 2004 Ratner-directed “After the Sunset” when she was still an aspiring actress, he masturbated in front of her in his trailer when she went to deliver a meal.
     
    http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-brett-ratner-allegations-20171101-htmlstory.html


    It isn't just the 'harassment' itself. It's the style - ritual humiliation of the victim, even without physical contact. Zero need for the perpetrator to feel any embarrassment or shame at all.

    (((Five for Five))) so far.

    Still counting...

    , @Lagertha

    Someone here might have far better insight than me as to why.
     
    Ok, I'll take a shot: All the Jewish guys that were chasing me during the college and post college years (NYC) always mentioned my Nordic looks....it helped that I was funny and outgoing, so I was not an Ice Queen. Many of them told me that shiksas really represented the forbidden fruit...the kind their mommy told them to never eat (haha, that was bad!). Jewish men, from childhood are groomed by their mothers to revere women and be very focused on women. The men that I hung out with (tired of Jewish guys by 23) confessed that they both feared their mother but totally expected to please their mother and marry a proper Jewish woman.

    Check out this cover photo which really creeped-me-out, after all these years:

    https://www.nytimes.com/201/10/04/magazine/behind-the-cover-9-24-17-html

    years ago, a guy I really liked (sophomore year) said his fantasy was to have blonde haired kids with someone who looked like me, but that his mother would never let that happen...kid you not!

    This cover really pissed me off because NYT would never, ever put an African family, Middle Eastern family, Asian family, a Latino family with a woman's naked butt and nipple exposed, with naked children in the background - even I was careful with sauna photos of my sons (getting into the internet) when they were little. What a double standard! And how disgustingly sexist. I'm shocked that the NYT does not see how unethical it is to put this naked woman and her children on the cover. And, the whole point of sauna is that it is a private ritual with either your spouse, family (children tend to not want family sauna around 12), or same sex group. I feel like the entire NYT editorial board was just salivating over this woman's image - or, they were being their "inner/fantasy" Hefner.

    But, like that stupid guy I dumped after his bizarre drunken confession, the stereotype of naked Scandinavians, Estonians and Finns persists....and, ergo, maybe these Hollywood guys act like horn dogs because they see themselves as having power over women, or dissing their mothers finally, string of ex-wives late in their lives. Viagra was probably a bad thing, too.

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  13. @Steve Sailer
    Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough!

    Obviously, Dame Judy Dench or Vanessa Redgrave would have been better in My Cousin Vinny as the Jersey Shore girl who knows all about American cars.

    Obviously, Dame Judy Dench or Vanessa Redgrave would have been better in My Cousin Vinny as the Jersey Shore girl who knows all about American cars.

    Doesn’t compute, since those women aren’t in the age bracket appropriate for the role, but a ton of other better known actresses were. As far as her other achievements at the time, she’s probably the only actress who’s Oscar win merited an entry regarding it’s legitimacy on Snopes:

    https://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/tomei.asp

    Her first significant role was with Harvey’s company. That said, she is speaking up on her twitter feed, and that’s a good sign.

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    It's possible Steve was being ironic.
    , @Steve Sailer
    I don't understand why everybody keeps going back to Marisa Tomei's 1992 Best Supporting Actress Oscar in My Cousin Vinny as a mistake.

    First, she's great in My Cousin Vinny.

    Second, she's earned two more Oscar nominations since, including for playing a stripper in 2008 in The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke.

    Third, she's almost impervious to aging. She is working steadily in giant budget movies in her 50s. They recently wrote her into the Marvel movies as Spider-Man's suddenly-sexy Aunt May to flirt with Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark. They have a lot of chemistry together. I'm sure she is planning on graduating from sexy aunt to sexy grandma to sexy great-grandma roles.

    Fourth, I can think of other young actresses who won Oscars in her era who haven't had her career.
    , @Gary in Gramercy
    First off, Steve was using...sarcasm. (Just like Doug Piranha.) Dame Judi Dench in the Marisa Tomei role in My Cousin Vinny? C'mon, that's obviously a joke.

    Second, as Steve and others have aptly pointed out, she was really good in that movie. You can easily imagine the casting session in which she read the part, and the director, producer and casting director all looked at one another and said sotto voce, "That's it. We have a winner."

    Third, she seems like the type of gal who, if a Harvey Weinstein or similar poobah were to come on to her the way he's been accused of doing onto others, would kick the guy in the balls. Hard. And in ten-inch heels.
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  14. Why are the Kardashians not speaking out about this sex for fame thing? What are they hiding?

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  15. neutral says:

    For those brave enough to visit feminist sites like Jezebel, are they talking about all these Hollywood revelations or are they ignoring it like they did the Cologne mass assaults and instead talking about college rape by white males?

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    Jezebel, Huff Po etc are not ignoring the revelations, but they are careful not to join the dots - ie point out that many perpetrators are Jews and signalling Leftists etc. It makes a change from the ‘Bye Goy’ headlines after Bannon left. Could you imagine ‘Bye Jews’?
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  16. TTSSYF says:
    @Cool McCool

    Obviously, Dame Judy Dench or Vanessa Redgrave would have been better in My Cousin Vinny as the Jersey Shore girl who knows all about American cars.
     
    Doesn't compute, since those women aren't in the age bracket appropriate for the role, but a ton of other better known actresses were. As far as her other achievements at the time, she's probably the only actress who's Oscar win merited an entry regarding it's legitimacy on Snopes:

    https://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/tomei.asp

    Her first significant role was with Harvey's company. That said, she is speaking up on her twitter feed, and that's a good sign.

    It’s possible Steve was being ironic.

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  17. eah says:

    Just to add some context to the near hysteria.

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    Why would any director or other movie executive think that Rose McGowan might be game for pay for play?
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  18. @neutral
    For those brave enough to visit feminist sites like Jezebel, are they talking about all these Hollywood revelations or are they ignoring it like they did the Cologne mass assaults and instead talking about college rape by white males?

    Jezebel, Huff Po etc are not ignoring the revelations, but they are careful not to join the dots – ie point out that many perpetrators are Jews and signalling Leftists etc. It makes a change from the ‘Bye Goy’ headlines after Bannon left. Could you imagine ‘Bye Jews’?

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    "MANY...are Jews?" Try "virtually all".
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  19. A Sr. VP for news at NPR just quit following allegations of sexual harassment from several women.

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    I'm beginning to wonder if this backlash is coming from women who put up with this crap from their own leftist men because they expected the second coming under Obama, and that a Hillary win would be the cherry on top. Part of the reason why Hillary is so angry is that she put up with Bill's infidelities in exchange for a shot at the presidency, and she still lost.

    Now that these women didn't get it, they're lashing out at their own side in a large-scale purge targeting the hypocrites, and these attacks look coordinated. I bet this mirrors what's going to happen in the Democratic primary in the next election. It's going to be women-only candidates in the primaries and any leftist candidate with a history of sexual abuse is going to be outed. Leftist women are getting tired of being at the back of the bus behind leftist men be they Jews, blacks, or Hispanics.
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  20. Sunbeam says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough!

    Obviously, Dame Judy Dench or Vanessa Redgrave would have been better in My Cousin Vinny as the Jersey Shore girl who knows all about American cars.

    You are evading his contention.

    Cool McCool wrote:

    “Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other’s “P for Play” marketing plans? Should these “play by the secret rules” kids be urged to “come out” or be outed? Do they get a “get out of National Shame free” card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we’ll always be sprouting more Harvey’s.”

    What he is saying is big, it is epic, and it is self-explanatory: Virtually everyone who appears in a Hollywood film, male or female, put out to get where they are. In Catch-22 fashion, if they didn’t, they don’t have the gold ring now.

    Prove or disprove it. Ignore it if you wish. But you know your audience and they aren’t the type to be swayed by a clever quip or rejoinder (or Tweet).

    There is apparently a “fake” interview with Brad Pitt out there, where he ruminates on the movie business. Fake Brad apparently said something like “They have a casting call and 1000 people apply. Out of that, probably 100 would work for the role. How do you select among that 100?”

    I have a theory that you California guys are too close to this business (Hollywood). It is pretty common in the rest of America to find a “Let it Burn” attitude towards it. I know I’d supply the match.

    And as at least one poster has repeatedly stated, you have been pretty silent on the Kevin Spacey situation. Or for a blast from the recent past, what about Travolta? There was lots of interesting stuff to apply Haven Monahan’s Razor to in that situation.

    You know sometimes I wonder. I read this site, and I see all kinds of things about reaction times, Word Sums, Fields Medals, blah, blah, blah.

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today’s world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain’t no such thing as nurture.

    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What’s more, their movies suck, even the “brainy” ones.

    What’s up with that?

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    I have a theory that you California guys are too close to this business (Hollywood). It is pretty common in the rest of America to find a “Let it Burn” attitude towards it. I know I’d supply the match.
     
    I was a bit active in theater in high school and college but didn’t go on because it was perfectly clear back in the 50s and 60s that show biz was a gay and Jewish thing.

    I think the result is that a lot of theatrical genius has been lost. Where is our Shakespeare today?
    , @Father O'Hara
    They should stick to peddling shmatas,where they can harm no one.
    , @StillCARealist
    I have to agree with you. When this site praises intelligence as much as it does there can't be silence when the really smart guys wind up being the most wicked and filthy.

    "What’s more, their movies suck, even the “brainy” ones."

    To me, most modern movies are just plain boring. Why do people continue to shell out hard-earned money for the same shtick?
    , @Lurker

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today’s world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain’t no such thing as nurture.

    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What’s more, their movies suck, even the “brainy” ones.
     
    If there's no such thing as nurture why would it matter what crapola Hollywood produces because it wouldn't affect anything?
    , @Jack D

    What’s more, their movies suck, even the “brainy” ones.
     
    Compared to what? There's no accounting for taste but Hollywood movies are one of the few remaining export worthy products made in the USA. Almost no one overseas has wanted to buy an American car for 40 years now but Hollywood is still the gold standard in entertainment all over the globe.

    It's possible that 100% of studios operated on the "pay to play" system but I think in the current witch hunting atmosphere we would hear about it if that was true. Instead, after the initial wave of serious abusers like Harvey, they are now going after guys who once upon a time pinched a girl's behind or made a dirty joke. If there was a deep vein to be mined they wouldn't be going after the slim pickin's so soon.

    And it's not true that the actors who played along willingly are in no position to squawk now. In fact they are in a perfect position to do so - all they have to do is pull out their victim cards and say that they were coerced - even as they were saying yes,yes,yes in their hearts they meant no,no, no. No one will dispute them in the current atmosphere. A number of Harvey's "victims" have already said this and no one has thought less of them for it. If they were later seen socializing with Harvey, continued to date Harvey, etc. this was all the result of PTSD. How dare you blame the victim! Every time the Japanese suggest that some of the Korean "comfort women" might have been professional prostitutes to begin with, the Koreans hold another demonstration - no the comfort women were all 100% pure innocent virgins kidnapped by the evil Japs and anyone who suggests otherwise is a monster. Morality plays are always black & white - no shades of grey allowed.
    , @SimpleSong
    Intelligence and character/prosociality are not the same thing, in fact I think they are pretty much orthogonal. But even a casual observer of humans will quickly pick up that they are both largely hereditary.

    Suppose you had a subculture that was high on the intelligence axis and low on the character axis. What do you suppose that subculture might look like? Can you think of any examples?

    We do need to dial back on the belief that intelligence is the only important hereditary cognitive trait. Particularly in this era of ubiquitous cognitive aids (calculators, spell checkers, the internet, etc.) and rapid dissemination of new knowledge, the success of failure of a society is probably determined more by the prosociality of its inhabitants than average intelligence.

    Which, again, is mostly a matter of nature, not nurture. Therefore a well designed society will push those with prosocial behaviors towards fecundity and those with antisocial behaviors towards barrenness.

    Our society does the opposite, of course.
    , @Rod1963

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today’s world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain’t no such thing as nurture.
     

    You can have a high IQ and still be a utter degenerate. Look at all the creeps in Silicon Valley promoting agendas that are wrecking the country and people. Or all the white professionals who overwhelmingly supported Hillary and the globalist agenda.

    Of course with the tribe, their predatory view towards the rest of the human race undoubtedly colors their view of us. The fact their fellow tribesman on Wall Street have over the decades shown no hesitation to a**rape the country shows that.

    Nurture exists, however when you're a professional, you need a excuse as to why you're a worthless father or mother who can't be bothered to raise their own kid and outsource it to the state or some private institution so you can have a "meaningful career".


    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What’s more, their movies suck, even the “brainy” ones.
     
    The golden age of Hollywood was when their immorality was kept in check by various outside pressure groups like the Catholic League or something like that. Once the shackles were removed they reverted to what they do best. Produce schlock and even worse. Remember the torture porn genre they created? SAW and its derivatives. 30 years earlier it would have rated X and only played in sleazy one screen theaters.

    What's their big money makers today? A series about a bunch of buff dudes driving fast cars and a bunch of comic book adaptations. Basically fare aimed at 15-25 year old males with the attention span of a gnat.

    , @Another Realist

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today’s world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain’t no such thing as nurture.
     
    Is it intelligence, or cronyism? Members of the tribe all looking out for one another. Once a few Jews break in the industry, they only hire other Jews. That's how they come to dominate Wall Street, law offices, the media, academia, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, the DNC, lobbying industry, the Deep state. Want to work in these institutions? Two criteria - go to the right school, and be Jewish.

    If it were intelligence, Hollywood wouldn't be pumping out such trash year after year. The only movies that make money anymore are superhero movies and their sequels, nothing creative or original, just lots of violence and special effects. TV sitcoms today have the stupidest lines, no originality whatsoever and not even remotely funny. Reality shows have little to no creativity except delving into more dirt. Just look at the Kardashians. Creativity is long dead in Hollywood, just like in modern lit, modern art, all dominated by Jews.

    Indians are now taking a page out of their playbook in tech. Once an Indian becomes a manager in a dept., he only hires other Indians.

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  21. Theres a good chance if (((they do it right))) they could head this off here by screaming anti semitism, thus raising the bar of the holiness signal. I mean it would take chutzpah but they dont lack that.On the other hand that would be a perfect time to introduce the meme of “jewish privilege” which a smart person would not engage with because well theres a lot of privilege o be dug up if anyone needed to, in order to defend the meme and once up it would stay up as a permanent meme.
    Its too soon to tell if its really a jewish vice or just so few non jews in power in hollywood. But its worth noting Jews feminism is not directed in, in is still a patriarchal culture. Also jewish girls are a bit more capable of handling this stuff, kind of like black and latin chicks, whites are eloi.

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    @Cool McCool

    Weinstein, Toback, Ratner, Wieseltier, Halperin, Hoffman, Piven, Polanski. white male patriarchy at its worst
     
    The other 800 pound gorilla in the room. It ain’t "white folks." It’s cultural, and it’s a Jewish thing.

    Too many Jewish men have major issues with pretty women, especially shiksas. They like to defeat them. Some kind of mom issue? A cultural carry-over of Eastern European Jewish orthodoxy from generations ago, and old habits die hard? Someone here might have far better insight than me as to why. It’s just something I’ve noticed enough in the past to regard it as "a Jewish thing."

    It’s a pattern that’s certainly on display now. It’s just that nobody wants to say it, for some reason.

    I guess doing that is when the gloves really come off.

    Too many Jewish men have major issues with pretty women, especially shiksas. They like to defeat them. Some kind of mom issue?

    Jews have, on average, much more sexual perversion than non-Jews. People commented on this freely for a very long time, and then Jews decided that they were the normal ones and everyone else was “repressed” and needed to be “liberated” from their repression, and made up some unsupported “psychoanalysis” nonsense to justify why everyone needed to be pegged and have multiple sex partners.

    That sexual “liberation” has made a lot of goyim quite miserable, but nobody in mainstream culture says so, because who controls the megaphone?

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    Of course Jews are overrepresented in the media. But there are lots of Gentiles also. Bill O’Reilly for example. Be nice to have statistics to see if Jews are over represented as offenders even allowing for the fact that they are overrepresented in the industry.
    , @advancedatheist
    Freethinking white people promoted sexual freedom before Jews got into the act, starting in the Enlightenment. You can't blame Jews for the Oneida cult in the 19th Century, for example.
    , @Ian M.

    Jews have, on average, much more sexual perversion than non-Jews. People commented on this freely for a very long time, and then Jews decided that they were the normal ones and everyone else was “repressed” and needed to be “liberated” from their repression, and made up some unsupported “psychoanalysis” nonsense to justify why everyone needed to be pegged and have multiple sex partners.

     

    Are there any stats on this? Jews are certainly heavily implicated in pornography. I also get the sense today that there are a disproportionate number of Jewish homosexuals when compared to other groups. On the other hand, I remember a friend sending me some survey that showed that of all the groups surveyed, Jews had the highest percentage of those who had never partaken in the solitary vice, which surprised me.

    The impression I get is that, say, in fin de siècle western Europe and into the early 20th century, Jews were associated more with heterosexual vice and lechery, while Northwestern European gentiles were more associated with homosexual vice, although in the pagan milieu that had become fashionable at the time, this wasn’t necessarily considered a vice, but something virile and manly.

    For example, Paul Johnson in Modern Times writes that the nudist sunbathing movement that arose in Germany in the early 20th century came to be regarded as having a good kind and bad kind: the 'good' kind of nudism was Aryan and either non-sexual or homosexual in contrast to the bad 'Jewish' type of nudism, which was considered heterosexual and erotic.

    German gentiles like Adolf Brand and Hans Blüher advocated for pederastic relationships as being highly masculine and ideal. They opposed the Jew Magnus Hirschfeld because they regarded his brand of homosexuality as being effeminate.

    I get a similar sense about England during that same time period, but to a lesser degree.
    , @Flip
    I have a young Jewish female friend who claims that Jewish men are more perverted than Gentiles and with a higher percentage of homosexuality. I wondered to her if that was a result of Ashkenazi inbreeding, and she thought that was a possibility.
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  23. @Cool McCool

    Obviously, Dame Judy Dench or Vanessa Redgrave would have been better in My Cousin Vinny as the Jersey Shore girl who knows all about American cars.
     
    Doesn't compute, since those women aren't in the age bracket appropriate for the role, but a ton of other better known actresses were. As far as her other achievements at the time, she's probably the only actress who's Oscar win merited an entry regarding it's legitimacy on Snopes:

    https://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/tomei.asp

    Her first significant role was with Harvey's company. That said, she is speaking up on her twitter feed, and that's a good sign.

    I don’t understand why everybody keeps going back to Marisa Tomei’s 1992 Best Supporting Actress Oscar in My Cousin Vinny as a mistake.

    First, she’s great in My Cousin Vinny.

    Second, she’s earned two more Oscar nominations since, including for playing a stripper in 2008 in The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke.

    Third, she’s almost impervious to aging. She is working steadily in giant budget movies in her 50s. They recently wrote her into the Marvel movies as Spider-Man’s suddenly-sexy Aunt May to flirt with Robert Downey Jr.’s Tony Stark. They have a lot of chemistry together. I’m sure she is planning on graduating from sexy aunt to sexy grandma to sexy great-grandma roles.

    Fourth, I can think of other young actresses who won Oscars in her era who haven’t had her career.

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    Not bothering to look up the nominees, I doubt there was a better performance and certainly not a more memorable great performance that year.
    , @Anonymous
    Julia Roberts? I've never understood her popularity. I first saw her in Mystic Pizza, and I thought that she was by far the most annoying character in the movie. I dislike her general "sassy" attitude and her big, toothy smile.
    , @Lurker
    Marisa has good genes. She's lovely *sigh*.
    , @Jack D
    I think the beef against Tomei getting the Award for My Cousin Vinny is it wasn't really "acting". For a Brooklyn Italian girl to play a Brooklyn Italian girl is not a big stretch. If Meryl Streep or Dame Judy Dench had played a Brooklyn Italian girl THAT would be acting.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Indeed, Marisa Tomei still looks quite good. She was notable as the sexy middle-aged teacher in Crazy, Stupid, Love. She looks like what Carrie Fisher might have looked like if she had taken better care of herself.
    , @Cool McCool

    I don’t understand why everybody keeps going back to Marisa Tomei’s 1992 Best Supporting Actress Oscar in My Cousin Vinny as a mistake.

    First, she’s great in My Cousin Vinny.

    Second, she’s earned two more Oscar nominations since, including for playing a stripper in 2008 in The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke.

    Third, she’s almost impervious to aging. She is working steadily in giant budget movies in her 50s. They recently wrote her into the Marvel movies as Spider-Man’s suddenly-sexy Aunt May to flirt with Robert Downey Jr.’s Tony Stark. They have a lot of chemistry together. I’m sure she is planning on graduating from sexy aunt to sexy grandma to sexy great-grandma roles.

    Fourth, I can think of other young actresses who won Oscars in her era who haven’t had her career.
     
    First, with absolutely no doubt, Judy Davis could play Marisa Tomei's role better than Marisa Tomei played that role, and Judy Davis' complex role in Woody's movie was out of Ms. Tomei's ability to comprehend. Tomei is just as dumb as she seems. Go to her twitter page. She posts retweets almost exclusively, and parrots SJW silliness. She hasn't a thought of her own. Never has. Never will.

    Second, being able to pick your shots, which winning an Oscar, or having sex with a person in power, allows an actress and her advisors to do, helps loads in further fast-tracking a career. Also, as any major actress will tell you, showing your tits is a prerequisite for an actress' career longevity, so getting that out of the way as soon as she could might have been a goal of hers. Ms. Tomei also has a history of "dating" people who could help her. Not the other way around. She was very career-driven, and single-minded from early on.

    Third, I don't know if you've seen her in person, but she's an odd looking duck in real life. She's very small, petite, as if her body stopped developing when she hit 13. To me, she looks slightly deformed. She's just very weird lookin, in that she has the body of a barely post-pubescent teen, and that helps more than any plastic surgery regimen alone, and some would say it added to her attraction to people who could help her. In Hollywood, looking barely post-pubescent while being legal is literally awesome.

    As a sidenote to one of the posters who wondered why pop-bitch Julia Roberts got plumb roles so fast... that's up for conjecture, but another big plus in hollywood is if your lips closely resemble an engorged vagina. Kim Basinger did very well by hers. She won an Oscar, even though her acting chops were remedial on a good day.

    In any case, I've personally known well-known actresses, and the things they had to do as a rule to get where they wanted is comical/heart-breaking. One of the bigger "feminist/intellectual" voices amongst actresses whom I've known, got on all fours to service a person who absolutely repulsed her, again and again over a period of time, to secure the movie roles she couldn't have secured without his direct intervention. Her performance was adequate, but he was responsible for her career.

    Nobody was ever the wiser, aside from her closest friends-with big mouths who gave me the play-by-play. If I told you who it was, you would be aghast.

    And finally, just because you have acting ability, doesn't mean you didn't serve numerous penis' or vagina's in power (yep, there's a casting couch run by lesbians and straight women in power also) to leapfrog past a ton of unfortunate acting roles to get where you want to go 10 years earlier.

    The acting profession is very, very difficult, for men and women. If you think compromising your morals to service a penis or vagina when you're a woman is soul-sucking, try doing it as a straight man.

    I don't know anything directly about Marisa Tomei's career exploits. For all I know, she's the flower of moral rectitude, as her devoted fan Steve hopes. I'm just conjecturing, and I could be dead wrong. Chances are very high that I don't know what I'm talking about at all. I'm crazy, don't listen to me. Maybe I'm drunk right now.
    , @anonguy

    I don’t understand why everybody keeps going back to Marisa Tomei’s 1992 Best Supporting Actress Oscar in My Cousin Vinny as a mistake.

    First, she’s great in My Cousin Vinny.
     

    Me neither, that was an absolutely brilliant performance, her timing, intonation, and mannerisms, just perfect. What is there not to like about it? I never even knew it was controversial.... Maybe after I read the rest of the comments, someone has explained it.
    , @guest
    It's obvious why it still sticks in people's minds (aside from the fact that they don't trust the mental faculties of Jack Palance): a) My Cousin Vinny isn't the type of movie, and b) aside from the occasional Judy Holiday in Born Yesterday, Tomei's isn't the type of role, that usually win Oscars.

    It's a clever little comedy, eminently unwatchable, but not checking off any of the usual Oscar boxes. They like to reward movies they're otherwise rewarding on smaller categories, too. So even if a performance in something like My Cousin Vinny is great, "Yeah, but it's My Cousin Vinny," is the thinking.

    Character actors and comedians get noticed the supporting categories, but the Oscars likes to honor the movies that are already winning in the smaller categories, too. Tomei was kinda sorta type cast, if you consider her previous role in Oscar (the Sly Stallone period farce, not to be confused with the awards ceremony) as a bratty Italian princess. But I don't think he appearance screams "funny character actress," so she doesn't get the benefit of that.

    Possessing possible leading-lady looks doesn't count for her, here. She doesn't get the benefit of playing against type in a funny "character" sort of part, firstly because that was her type (see Oscar). She wasn't yet starring in romances, I don't think. Also because awards like it when you degrade yourself, with a big nose or something. Walking around a one-horse town in garish Jersey Shore-type outfits is degrading, but not in the right way.

    Finally, being an Oscar winner of course influences whether or not you receive subsequent nominations. Not everyone gets exiled to Alaska to lead snow dogs like Cuba.
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  24. unit472 says:

    Let’s not let a witch hunt go to waste. Dartmouth College has three psychology professors on the sexual misconduct career ending chopping block. National Predator Radio just ‘suspended’ one of their big shots. The British Defense Minister just resigned for being ‘handsy’! Harvey Weinstein’s gift just keeps on giving and this is one of the few times the ‘little people’ can reach out and smite the mighty.

    Keep those allegations coming boys and girls and we might yet be able to drain the swamp and far beyond the realm of Hollywood.

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    The problem with witch hunts is that they are like forest fires - they are uncontrollable and burn the good along with the bad. Now maybe there is not much good around in our ruling class and they all deserve to be burned but if you look at the history of places that have been through a bonfire of the vanities, it is not encouraging - what comes next is usually even worse. If you don't like our current ruling class you will like their replacements even less. Those three psych professors may be standard issue liberals but they are white men who received real educations and have some shreds of decency. Their replacements will surely be transgender mulattoes/Latinxes who think of nothing but hating whitey all day long and care nothing for whitey norms like decency and fairness.
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    we need a safe spacey

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  26. We as White men need to come together and support Hollywood producers the same way they’ve supported us over the years. We need to pause and remember all the ways Hollywood has been there to give us encouragement and support as White, Southern, Christian, British, military or socially conservative men. We need to ask ourselves “how has Hollywood depicted people like me or my ancestors?” and then step up to give the same kind of support to them.

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  27. dr kill says:

    O/T Can you believen the balls on that Donna Brazille? Did you read her OJ-style confession at Politico?

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  28. Josh says:
    @22pp22
    Off topic. Question to fellow Sailerites from a non-American.

    How much danger is Trump in?

    Like physical danger?

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  29. Hodag says:

    I won’t see any pattern to these charges.

    https://g.co/kgs/JNffhj

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  30. @guest
    Ratner was one of them music video directors who made it big, working a lot in the hip-hop genre, as I recall. Say, do you think hip-hoppers ever have trouble with women?

    I wish I had forgotten about this person's existence, but I happen to have been made aware of a short film he did before his career took off. It was this weird little thing about child actor Mason Reese, who you may not remember as a weird-looking (possible midget) kid from tv commercials in the 70s.

    Anyway, it was a piece of crap, like so many future Ratner efforts. But to hear him tell it the short got Spielberg's attention, which I guess got him started on the road to Rush Hour. After Rush Hour, he was free to make an seemingly endless stream of crappy to mediocre films. (And produce one really good one called Paid in Fullt. My favorite gangsta movie.)

    Which I always took to be a lie. I checked Wikipedia, and the Spielberg story didn't even show up. Is it possible he got music videos by feeding ho's to the right people, then ingratiated himself by giving the Spielbergs of the world...I don't know. Things? I'm all over the place on these people.

    Or it could be a secret handshake, tribal thing.

    Chosen by God. That’s all you need to know. Shut up and eat your shiksa.

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  31. @Cool McCool
    And now Dustin Hoffman!

    The 800 pound gorilla in the room are the men and women who actually partook in surrendering the pink for a plumb role. You might be able to identify them by their deafening silence about now.

    To be absolutely fair, I strongly doubt Harvey’s boldness was all self-generated. Quite a few girls took him up on his offer, and a few benefitted tremendously for it.

    To get on the right track for speculation, think of the guys and gals who seemed to come out of nowhere, and get plumb roles, featured, and especially leading. To make picking easier, who won an Oscar that left you scratching your head? Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough! Cough-dufus-jennifer-cough—lawrence-sniff! Whew! I think I’m allergic to something.

    Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other's "P for Play" marketing plans? Should these "play by the secret rules" kids be urged to "come out" or be outed? Do they get a "get out of National Shame free" card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we'll always be sprouting more Harvey's.

    God damn, wouldn’t it be great for – say – Heather Graham to openly say “Sure, I sucked Harvey’s dick for a role. So what? Now I’m a millionaire! How much did *you* get for sucking dick?”

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  32. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Cool McCool
    And now Dustin Hoffman!

    The 800 pound gorilla in the room are the men and women who actually partook in surrendering the pink for a plumb role. You might be able to identify them by their deafening silence about now.

    To be absolutely fair, I strongly doubt Harvey’s boldness was all self-generated. Quite a few girls took him up on his offer, and a few benefitted tremendously for it.

    To get on the right track for speculation, think of the guys and gals who seemed to come out of nowhere, and get plumb roles, featured, and especially leading. To make picking easier, who won an Oscar that left you scratching your head? Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough! Cough-dufus-jennifer-cough—lawrence-sniff! Whew! I think I’m allergic to something.

    Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other's "P for Play" marketing plans? Should these "play by the secret rules" kids be urged to "come out" or be outed? Do they get a "get out of National Shame free" card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we'll always be sprouting more Harvey's.

    That would be plum role, I believe. For a plumb roll, though.

    But for these musings of Mr. Sailer, I know essentially nothing of Hollywood – no TV, no movies, none of it. I’m reminded of a stack of old Mad magazines acquired as a boy, parodies of stuff I never saw that were thus, for me, the stuff itself. Entertaining, and comforting in the confirmation that very little of value is being missed.

    So much of what is wrong in our country thrives in mass culture, national governance, etc.

    Buy local? Yes. But consider thinking and living local, too. These creeps deserve nothing but scorn, and none of our time or treasure.

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  33. SIMPEL says:

    Was looking at his oeuvre on Wikipedia and was surprised to see the credits for a Cannibal Corpse video in between Miley Cyrus and Jessica Simpson.

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  34. Josh says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I don't understand why everybody keeps going back to Marisa Tomei's 1992 Best Supporting Actress Oscar in My Cousin Vinny as a mistake.

    First, she's great in My Cousin Vinny.

    Second, she's earned two more Oscar nominations since, including for playing a stripper in 2008 in The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke.

    Third, she's almost impervious to aging. She is working steadily in giant budget movies in her 50s. They recently wrote her into the Marvel movies as Spider-Man's suddenly-sexy Aunt May to flirt with Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark. They have a lot of chemistry together. I'm sure she is planning on graduating from sexy aunt to sexy grandma to sexy great-grandma roles.

    Fourth, I can think of other young actresses who won Oscars in her era who haven't had her career.

    Not bothering to look up the nominees, I doubt there was a better performance and certainly not a more memorable great performance that year.

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  35. @whorefinder

    Too many Jewish men have major issues with pretty women, especially shiksas. They like to defeat them. Some kind of mom issue?
     
    Jews have, on average, much more sexual perversion than non-Jews. People commented on this freely for a very long time, and then Jews decided that they were the normal ones and everyone else was "repressed" and needed to be "liberated" from their repression, and made up some unsupported "psychoanalysis" nonsense to justify why everyone needed to be pegged and have multiple sex partners.

    That sexual "liberation" has made a lot of goyim quite miserable, but nobody in mainstream culture says so, because who controls the megaphone?

    Of course Jews are overrepresented in the media. But there are lots of Gentiles also. Bill O’Reilly for example. Be nice to have statistics to see if Jews are over represented as offenders even allowing for the fact that they are overrepresented in the industry.

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  36. @Sunbeam
    You are evading his contention.

    Cool McCool wrote:

    "Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other’s “P for Play” marketing plans? Should these “play by the secret rules” kids be urged to “come out” or be outed? Do they get a “get out of National Shame free” card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we’ll always be sprouting more Harvey’s."

    What he is saying is big, it is epic, and it is self-explanatory: Virtually everyone who appears in a Hollywood film, male or female, put out to get where they are. In Catch-22 fashion, if they didn't, they don't have the gold ring now.

    Prove or disprove it. Ignore it if you wish. But you know your audience and they aren't the type to be swayed by a clever quip or rejoinder (or Tweet).

    There is apparently a "fake" interview with Brad Pitt out there, where he ruminates on the movie business. Fake Brad apparently said something like "They have a casting call and 1000 people apply. Out of that, probably 100 would work for the role. How do you select among that 100?"

    I have a theory that you California guys are too close to this business (Hollywood). It is pretty common in the rest of America to find a "Let it Burn" attitude towards it. I know I'd supply the match.

    And as at least one poster has repeatedly stated, you have been pretty silent on the Kevin Spacey situation. Or for a blast from the recent past, what about Travolta? There was lots of interesting stuff to apply Haven Monahan's Razor to in that situation.

    You know sometimes I wonder. I read this site, and I see all kinds of things about reaction times, Word Sums, Fields Medals, blah, blah, blah.

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today's world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain't no such thing as nurture.

    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What's more, their movies suck, even the "brainy" ones.

    What's up with that?

    I have a theory that you California guys are too close to this business (Hollywood). It is pretty common in the rest of America to find a “Let it Burn” attitude towards it. I know I’d supply the match.

    I was a bit active in theater in high school and college but didn’t go on because it was perfectly clear back in the 50s and 60s that show biz was a gay and Jewish thing.

    I think the result is that a lot of theatrical genius has been lost. Where is our Shakespeare today?

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  37. OT: The Wall, if it is ever built, will have to extend into the ocean:

    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/environment/sd-me-tj-sewage-spill-20171101-story.html

    Tijuana is a great place. My sister got an abortion there in the 60s.

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  38. 22pp22 says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    What are you talking about?

    Being impeached.

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    1000-1 , i.e., no shot. He likely struck a deal with the CIA to ease the f**k off if he gave them 6 months to scrub the JFK docs. He had some leverage there I think, rather than the opposite, which is usually them telling POTUS how it's gonna be.

    His neo-con policies and not going after the DOD / MIC budget ensured TPTB that they can "work" with him.

    We'll see what the future holds though.
    , @Crawfurdmuir

    Being impeached.
     
    Trump is in no danger of being impeached before the 2018 election. If Democrats gain control of the House, they may vote to impeach him, though most of the noise right now about it is grandstanding, like Congressional Republicans' promises to repeal Obamacare when Obama was in office and there was no realistic chance of success. Placed in a position to carry a vote for impeachment, do you suppose the Democrats' leadership will pull the trigger? Will they really want crazy Maxine Waters to be the public face of their party? Moreover, chances of conviction in the Senate are very small, given that a 2/3 vote is necessary.

    Republicans were unable to convict Bill Clinton when they tried, and Senate Democrats are quite unlikely to convict Trump should House Democrats succeed in passing an impeachment. Indeed, Democrats' prospects of gaining control of the Senate in the 2018 election are not favorable.

    , @Thomm
    None. Zero.
    , @whorefinder
    The problem with impeachment is that the threat of impeachment is always far worse than impeachment itself.

    Why? Simple: the American people have a very strong tendency to rally around the presidency during such times. Both Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton had very strong negative opinions against them when they were impeached, but even the people who hated them opposed their removal from office once the proceedings began.

    Impeachment also tends to laser-focus people on both sides of the issues of the removal, while previously most only heard about it through accusations from one side., and makes it less cut-and-dry.

    Nixon succumbed to the pressure of the threat of impeachment, but not an impeachment itself. A man who'd ended the Vietnam war and stabilized relations with China would have survived it, but Nixon knuckled under. Nixon had a strong patriotic streak which is downplayed today, and he felt that dragging the country through the impeachment hearings would be dirty, much like how in 1960 he refused to contest the Chicago election results that put Kennedy in the White House, because, although they were dirty, Nixon was too high-minded to cause a national crisis by holding up the results.

    The Anti-Trump crew would find themselves very vilified if they tried it. Right now they're only talking to each other and the echo chamber is making them puff out their chests, but faced with massive street protests from anti-impeachers and the massive social pressure the hearings would bring, Trump would not only win, he would be vindicated in the eyes of even people who dislike his policies, and the Anti-Trumpers would lose a lot of face.

    Plus there is the heightened Deep State fear: any impeachment of Trump for anything less than a smoking gun serious treasonous crime would set more than a million militia members into open armed revolt via guerrilla warfare, as they would rightly see the attempt to remove Trump as the final nail in the coffin of the rule of law. And the guerrillas would have millions more Americans supporting their cause thanks to the hearings, which is a key component of a successful guerrilla war (as Mao would tell you, it is the law-abiding citizens who feed and clothe and hide the guerrillas that allow the guerrilla warriors to succeed).

    The Deep State knows this is a likely scenario, and, unless they are more foolish than I imagine, they will stop the hotheads from sending the country into a civil war.
    , @Thea
    No chance!

    Bur if it miraculously happens Clinton's impeachment set the standard that it is irrelevant. He could just carry on as if nothing happened.
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  39. “I got twenty writers under contract that I can ask for a Fink-type thing from.”

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  40. @Cool McCool
    And now Dustin Hoffman!

    The 800 pound gorilla in the room are the men and women who actually partook in surrendering the pink for a plumb role. You might be able to identify them by their deafening silence about now.

    To be absolutely fair, I strongly doubt Harvey’s boldness was all self-generated. Quite a few girls took him up on his offer, and a few benefitted tremendously for it.

    To get on the right track for speculation, think of the guys and gals who seemed to come out of nowhere, and get plumb roles, featured, and especially leading. To make picking easier, who won an Oscar that left you scratching your head? Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough! Cough-dufus-jennifer-cough—lawrence-sniff! Whew! I think I’m allergic to something.

    Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other's "P for Play" marketing plans? Should these "play by the secret rules" kids be urged to "come out" or be outed? Do they get a "get out of National Shame free" card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we'll always be sprouting more Harvey's.

    My question is what actors, female and male, for at least the last 40 years have not been subject to sexual abuse???

    While I largely agree with Kevin Macdonald that much of this sexual abuse by male Jewish Hollywood is in part motivated by contempt and a desire for revenge against the goyim.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2017/10/20/harvey-weinstein-revenge-and-domination-as-jewish-motives/

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2017/10/18/harvey-weinstein-on-jews-and-the-shiksa/

    But what about Jewish and part Jewish actors like Corey Haim, Corey Feldman and Gwyneth Paltrow???

    You would think that there would be a level of tribal solidarity that would give them some degree of protection.

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  41. DCThrowback says: • Website
    @22pp22
    Being impeached.

    1000-1 , i.e., no shot. He likely struck a deal with the CIA to ease the f**k off if he gave them 6 months to scrub the JFK docs. He had some leverage there I think, rather than the opposite, which is usually them telling POTUS how it’s gonna be.

    His neo-con policies and not going after the DOD / MIC budget ensured TPTB that they can “work” with him.

    We’ll see what the future holds though.

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  42. @22pp22
    Being impeached.

    Being impeached.

    Trump is in no danger of being impeached before the 2018 election. If Democrats gain control of the House, they may vote to impeach him, though most of the noise right now about it is grandstanding, like Congressional Republicans’ promises to repeal Obamacare when Obama was in office and there was no realistic chance of success. Placed in a position to carry a vote for impeachment, do you suppose the Democrats’ leadership will pull the trigger? Will they really want crazy Maxine Waters to be the public face of their party? Moreover, chances of conviction in the Senate are very small, given that a 2/3 vote is necessary.

    Republicans were unable to convict Bill Clinton when they tried, and Senate Democrats are quite unlikely to convict Trump should House Democrats succeed in passing an impeachment. Indeed, Democrats’ prospects of gaining control of the Senate in the 2018 election are not favorable.

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  43. @Sunbeam
    You are evading his contention.

    Cool McCool wrote:

    "Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other’s “P for Play” marketing plans? Should these “play by the secret rules” kids be urged to “come out” or be outed? Do they get a “get out of National Shame free” card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we’ll always be sprouting more Harvey’s."

    What he is saying is big, it is epic, and it is self-explanatory: Virtually everyone who appears in a Hollywood film, male or female, put out to get where they are. In Catch-22 fashion, if they didn't, they don't have the gold ring now.

    Prove or disprove it. Ignore it if you wish. But you know your audience and they aren't the type to be swayed by a clever quip or rejoinder (or Tweet).

    There is apparently a "fake" interview with Brad Pitt out there, where he ruminates on the movie business. Fake Brad apparently said something like "They have a casting call and 1000 people apply. Out of that, probably 100 would work for the role. How do you select among that 100?"

    I have a theory that you California guys are too close to this business (Hollywood). It is pretty common in the rest of America to find a "Let it Burn" attitude towards it. I know I'd supply the match.

    And as at least one poster has repeatedly stated, you have been pretty silent on the Kevin Spacey situation. Or for a blast from the recent past, what about Travolta? There was lots of interesting stuff to apply Haven Monahan's Razor to in that situation.

    You know sometimes I wonder. I read this site, and I see all kinds of things about reaction times, Word Sums, Fields Medals, blah, blah, blah.

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today's world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain't no such thing as nurture.

    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What's more, their movies suck, even the "brainy" ones.

    What's up with that?

    They should stick to peddling shmatas,where they can harm no one.

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    Ratner was one of them music video directors who made it big, working a lot in the hip-hop genre, as I recall. Say, do you think hip-hoppers ever have trouble with women?

    I wish I had forgotten about this person's existence, but I happen to have been made aware of a short film he did before his career took off. It was this weird little thing about child actor Mason Reese, who you may not remember as a weird-looking (possible midget) kid from tv commercials in the 70s.

    Anyway, it was a piece of crap, like so many future Ratner efforts. But to hear him tell it the short got Spielberg's attention, which I guess got him started on the road to Rush Hour. After Rush Hour, he was free to make an seemingly endless stream of crappy to mediocre films. (And produce one really good one called Paid in Fullt. My favorite gangsta movie.)

    Which I always took to be a lie. I checked Wikipedia, and the Spielberg story didn't even show up. Is it possible he got music videos by feeding ho's to the right people, then ingratiated himself by giving the Spielbergs of the world...I don't know. Things? I'm all over the place on these people.

    Or it could be a secret handshake, tribal thing.

    Ratner and McG are in the same category: crap directors who got their start making music videos and then helmed one studio-assembly-line hit movie and somehow that made them household names, even though they suck.

    They both suck, but I somehow hate McG more, simply because he’s a big enough prick to have kept the retarded pseudonym of “McG’ instead of acting like a grownup and using his real name. Total ass.

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    They both suck, but I somehow hate McG more, simply because he’s a big enough prick to have kept the retarded pseudonym of “McG’ instead of acting like a grownup and using his real name. Total ass.
     
    Hey….if you were named "Total ass" you might prefer McG.


    Oh…..


    Never mind!
    , @Truth

    They both suck, but I somehow hate McG more, simply because he’s a big enough prick to have kept the retarded pseudonym of “McG’ instead of acting like a grownup and using his real name. Total ass.
     
    Well that's very interesting, whorefinder.
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  45. @Sunbeam
    You are evading his contention.

    Cool McCool wrote:

    "Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other’s “P for Play” marketing plans? Should these “play by the secret rules” kids be urged to “come out” or be outed? Do they get a “get out of National Shame free” card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we’ll always be sprouting more Harvey’s."

    What he is saying is big, it is epic, and it is self-explanatory: Virtually everyone who appears in a Hollywood film, male or female, put out to get where they are. In Catch-22 fashion, if they didn't, they don't have the gold ring now.

    Prove or disprove it. Ignore it if you wish. But you know your audience and they aren't the type to be swayed by a clever quip or rejoinder (or Tweet).

    There is apparently a "fake" interview with Brad Pitt out there, where he ruminates on the movie business. Fake Brad apparently said something like "They have a casting call and 1000 people apply. Out of that, probably 100 would work for the role. How do you select among that 100?"

    I have a theory that you California guys are too close to this business (Hollywood). It is pretty common in the rest of America to find a "Let it Burn" attitude towards it. I know I'd supply the match.

    And as at least one poster has repeatedly stated, you have been pretty silent on the Kevin Spacey situation. Or for a blast from the recent past, what about Travolta? There was lots of interesting stuff to apply Haven Monahan's Razor to in that situation.

    You know sometimes I wonder. I read this site, and I see all kinds of things about reaction times, Word Sums, Fields Medals, blah, blah, blah.

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today's world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain't no such thing as nurture.

    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What's more, their movies suck, even the "brainy" ones.

    What's up with that?

    I have to agree with you. When this site praises intelligence as much as it does there can’t be silence when the really smart guys wind up being the most wicked and filthy.

    “What’s more, their movies suck, even the “brainy” ones.”

    To me, most modern movies are just plain boring. Why do people continue to shell out hard-earned money for the same shtick?

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    High intelligence gives you great power to do the most evil. This has been known since Plato, and much of the best part of Western civilization, in my view, focuses on the challenge of getting the most intelligent to do good. But this effort must never cease.
    , @Antiwar7
    Garden-variety intelligent people can be dicks. But the extremely intelligent people I've met have all been nice people. Read into that what you will.
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  46. OT

    And they say the Germans have no sense of humor!

    “German railway operator Deutsche Bahn (DB) stirred up a storm after deciding to name one of its new Inter City Express (ICE) trains after Anne Frank, ignoring the fact that she—like many other Jews at the time—perished after being hauled to a Nazi extermination camp via the same method of transportation.”

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5036144,00.html

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  47. Thomm says:
    @22pp22
    Being impeached.

    None. Zero.

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  48. whorefinder says: • Website
    @22pp22
    Being impeached.

    The problem with impeachment is that the threat of impeachment is always far worse than impeachment itself.

    Why? Simple: the American people have a very strong tendency to rally around the presidency during such times. Both Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton had very strong negative opinions against them when they were impeached, but even the people who hated them opposed their removal from office once the proceedings began.

    Impeachment also tends to laser-focus people on both sides of the issues of the removal, while previously most only heard about it through accusations from one side., and makes it less cut-and-dry.

    Nixon succumbed to the pressure of the threat of impeachment, but not an impeachment itself. A man who’d ended the Vietnam war and stabilized relations with China would have survived it, but Nixon knuckled under. Nixon had a strong patriotic streak which is downplayed today, and he felt that dragging the country through the impeachment hearings would be dirty, much like how in 1960 he refused to contest the Chicago election results that put Kennedy in the White House, because, although they were dirty, Nixon was too high-minded to cause a national crisis by holding up the results.

    The Anti-Trump crew would find themselves very vilified if they tried it. Right now they’re only talking to each other and the echo chamber is making them puff out their chests, but faced with massive street protests from anti-impeachers and the massive social pressure the hearings would bring, Trump would not only win, he would be vindicated in the eyes of even people who dislike his policies, and the Anti-Trumpers would lose a lot of face.

    Plus there is the heightened Deep State fear: any impeachment of Trump for anything less than a smoking gun serious treasonous crime would set more than a million militia members into open armed revolt via guerrilla warfare, as they would rightly see the attempt to remove Trump as the final nail in the coffin of the rule of law. And the guerrillas would have millions more Americans supporting their cause thanks to the hearings, which is a key component of a successful guerrilla war (as Mao would tell you, it is the law-abiding citizens who feed and clothe and hide the guerrillas that allow the guerrilla warriors to succeed).

    The Deep State knows this is a likely scenario, and, unless they are more foolish than I imagine, they will stop the hotheads from sending the country into a civil war.

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  49. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    I don't understand why everybody keeps going back to Marisa Tomei's 1992 Best Supporting Actress Oscar in My Cousin Vinny as a mistake.

    First, she's great in My Cousin Vinny.

    Second, she's earned two more Oscar nominations since, including for playing a stripper in 2008 in The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke.

    Third, she's almost impervious to aging. She is working steadily in giant budget movies in her 50s. They recently wrote her into the Marvel movies as Spider-Man's suddenly-sexy Aunt May to flirt with Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark. They have a lot of chemistry together. I'm sure she is planning on graduating from sexy aunt to sexy grandma to sexy great-grandma roles.

    Fourth, I can think of other young actresses who won Oscars in her era who haven't had her career.

    Julia Roberts? I’ve never understood her popularity. I first saw her in Mystic Pizza, and I thought that she was by far the most annoying character in the movie. I dislike her general “sassy” attitude and her big, toothy smile.

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    As long as we're talking abut The Tribe, she is the epitome of an Manhattan/Beverly Hills ideal of beauty-tall, narrow face, big white teeth, prominent nose, skeletal size zero build with no boobs, long dark hair, and a never shut the fuck up 24/7 attitude telling you she is the smartest person in the room, no matter the reality that she simply will not be quiet.She is the what Jewish women aspire to be. Not sure how she was cast in movies otherwise. And cast by you know who.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Agree wrt Julia Roberts. Pretty Woman blew dead dogs but every woman I know loved loved loved it.
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  50. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @eah
    Just to add some context to the near hysteria.

    https://twitter.com/navyhato/status/925285659295678470

    Why would any director or other movie executive think that Rose McGowan might be game for pay for play?

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    Because she dresses like a slut? Just a thought after seeing her pictures.
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  51. Lurker says:
    @Cool McCool
    And now Dustin Hoffman!

    The 800 pound gorilla in the room are the men and women who actually partook in surrendering the pink for a plumb role. You might be able to identify them by their deafening silence about now.

    To be absolutely fair, I strongly doubt Harvey’s boldness was all self-generated. Quite a few girls took him up on his offer, and a few benefitted tremendously for it.

    To get on the right track for speculation, think of the guys and gals who seemed to come out of nowhere, and get plumb roles, featured, and especially leading. To make picking easier, who won an Oscar that left you scratching your head? Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough! Cough-dufus-jennifer-cough—lawrence-sniff! Whew! I think I’m allergic to something.

    Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other's "P for Play" marketing plans? Should these "play by the secret rules" kids be urged to "come out" or be outed? Do they get a "get out of National Shame free" card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we'll always be sprouting more Harvey's.

    Marisa Tomei? Noooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The thought of that clambering all over such an angel is too depressing.

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    It didn't seem depressing to Marissa Tomei when it happened. You'd be surprised to find out what women will do for a job, any kind of job, let alone a good part in a Hollywood movie.
    I bet there are fewer than 10 women in all of Hollywood who have evaded the casting couch, A and B-listers.
    , @El Dato
    NO FLESH SHALL BE SPARED!
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  52. Thea says:
    @22pp22
    Being impeached.

    No chance!

    Bur if it miraculously happens Clinton’s impeachment set the standard that it is irrelevant. He could just carry on as if nothing happened.

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  53. Lurker says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I don't understand why everybody keeps going back to Marisa Tomei's 1992 Best Supporting Actress Oscar in My Cousin Vinny as a mistake.

    First, she's great in My Cousin Vinny.

    Second, she's earned two more Oscar nominations since, including for playing a stripper in 2008 in The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke.

    Third, she's almost impervious to aging. She is working steadily in giant budget movies in her 50s. They recently wrote her into the Marvel movies as Spider-Man's suddenly-sexy Aunt May to flirt with Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark. They have a lot of chemistry together. I'm sure she is planning on graduating from sexy aunt to sexy grandma to sexy great-grandma roles.

    Fourth, I can think of other young actresses who won Oscars in her era who haven't had her career.

    Marisa has good genes. She’s lovely *sigh*.

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    Marisa has good genes. She’s lovely *sigh*.
     
    And then she opens her mouth and you realize she's an idiot. *sigh*
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  54. Lurker says:
    @Sunbeam
    You are evading his contention.

    Cool McCool wrote:

    "Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other’s “P for Play” marketing plans? Should these “play by the secret rules” kids be urged to “come out” or be outed? Do they get a “get out of National Shame free” card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we’ll always be sprouting more Harvey’s."

    What he is saying is big, it is epic, and it is self-explanatory: Virtually everyone who appears in a Hollywood film, male or female, put out to get where they are. In Catch-22 fashion, if they didn't, they don't have the gold ring now.

    Prove or disprove it. Ignore it if you wish. But you know your audience and they aren't the type to be swayed by a clever quip or rejoinder (or Tweet).

    There is apparently a "fake" interview with Brad Pitt out there, where he ruminates on the movie business. Fake Brad apparently said something like "They have a casting call and 1000 people apply. Out of that, probably 100 would work for the role. How do you select among that 100?"

    I have a theory that you California guys are too close to this business (Hollywood). It is pretty common in the rest of America to find a "Let it Burn" attitude towards it. I know I'd supply the match.

    And as at least one poster has repeatedly stated, you have been pretty silent on the Kevin Spacey situation. Or for a blast from the recent past, what about Travolta? There was lots of interesting stuff to apply Haven Monahan's Razor to in that situation.

    You know sometimes I wonder. I read this site, and I see all kinds of things about reaction times, Word Sums, Fields Medals, blah, blah, blah.

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today's world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain't no such thing as nurture.

    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What's more, their movies suck, even the "brainy" ones.

    What's up with that?

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today’s world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain’t no such thing as nurture.

    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What’s more, their movies suck, even the “brainy” ones.

    If there’s no such thing as nurture why would it matter what crapola Hollywood produces because it wouldn’t affect anything?

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    "If there’s no such thing as nurture why would it matter what crapola Hollywood produces because it wouldn’t affect anything?"

    If you are a believer in "Strong HBD" or something to that effect, it doesn't. Never mind your lying eyes.

    One thing HBD has taught me, at least what I take away from it, is that the conventional wisdom of circa 1900 may have been more accurate than the current prevailing one.

    But I've been told things like if you run with a bad crowd, you'll get in trouble and come to no good.

    And you know? The old people that told me things like that turned out to be right in the long run.

    But then HBD tells me you can do something like raise a kid in a barrel, and he can be decasked at the age of 18 and promptly win the Fields Medal or become an Olympic sprint champion. Because genes you know, if he has the right ones.

    Or if everyone in your neighborhood drinks like a fish, does smack, smokes weed, and lives outside the law, you never will if your genes are right.
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  55. Jack D says:
    @Sunbeam
    You are evading his contention.

    Cool McCool wrote:

    "Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other’s “P for Play” marketing plans? Should these “play by the secret rules” kids be urged to “come out” or be outed? Do they get a “get out of National Shame free” card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we’ll always be sprouting more Harvey’s."

    What he is saying is big, it is epic, and it is self-explanatory: Virtually everyone who appears in a Hollywood film, male or female, put out to get where they are. In Catch-22 fashion, if they didn't, they don't have the gold ring now.

    Prove or disprove it. Ignore it if you wish. But you know your audience and they aren't the type to be swayed by a clever quip or rejoinder (or Tweet).

    There is apparently a "fake" interview with Brad Pitt out there, where he ruminates on the movie business. Fake Brad apparently said something like "They have a casting call and 1000 people apply. Out of that, probably 100 would work for the role. How do you select among that 100?"

    I have a theory that you California guys are too close to this business (Hollywood). It is pretty common in the rest of America to find a "Let it Burn" attitude towards it. I know I'd supply the match.

    And as at least one poster has repeatedly stated, you have been pretty silent on the Kevin Spacey situation. Or for a blast from the recent past, what about Travolta? There was lots of interesting stuff to apply Haven Monahan's Razor to in that situation.

    You know sometimes I wonder. I read this site, and I see all kinds of things about reaction times, Word Sums, Fields Medals, blah, blah, blah.

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today's world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain't no such thing as nurture.

    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What's more, their movies suck, even the "brainy" ones.

    What's up with that?

    What’s more, their movies suck, even the “brainy” ones.

    Compared to what? There’s no accounting for taste but Hollywood movies are one of the few remaining export worthy products made in the USA. Almost no one overseas has wanted to buy an American car for 40 years now but Hollywood is still the gold standard in entertainment all over the globe.

    It’s possible that 100% of studios operated on the “pay to play” system but I think in the current witch hunting atmosphere we would hear about it if that was true. Instead, after the initial wave of serious abusers like Harvey, they are now going after guys who once upon a time pinched a girl’s behind or made a dirty joke. If there was a deep vein to be mined they wouldn’t be going after the slim pickin’s so soon.

    And it’s not true that the actors who played along willingly are in no position to squawk now. In fact they are in a perfect position to do so – all they have to do is pull out their victim cards and say that they were coerced – even as they were saying yes,yes,yes in their hearts they meant no,no, no. No one will dispute them in the current atmosphere. A number of Harvey’s “victims” have already said this and no one has thought less of them for it. If they were later seen socializing with Harvey, continued to date Harvey, etc. this was all the result of PTSD. How dare you blame the victim! Every time the Japanese suggest that some of the Korean “comfort women” might have been professional prostitutes to begin with, the Koreans hold another demonstration – no the comfort women were all 100% pure innocent virgins kidnapped by the evil Japs and anyone who suggests otherwise is a monster. Morality plays are always black & white – no shades of grey allowed.

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    Compared to what?
     
    Hollywood's Golden Era. My kid's "My Little Pony" series. Any YouTube channel at random. Take your pick. Almost anything is better than the drek their producing.

    Almost no one overseas has wanted to buy an American car for 40 years now but Hollywood is still the gold standard in entertainment all over the globe.
     
    If by that you mean, China, I think I safely not worry about their gold standard.

    Morality plays are always black & white – no shades of grey allowed.
     
    Because in real life, most morality is black and white. People just don't like that, thus the need for a gray all the time. It's possible in situation where two people are conflict, both of them are wrong. That seems to be the most realistic concept - all black hats duking it out over something they should completely not want.
    , @Dumbo

    Compared to what?

     

    European and Japanese movies used to be pretty good until they were destroyed by Hollywood. I'm not sure about Japanese movies now (except for animation which is still quite good), but Europeans are just trying to copy mediocre Hollywood movies these days, just with less money and worse results.
    , @Anonymous

    Almost no one overseas has wanted to buy an American car for 40 years now but Hollywood is still the gold standard in entertainment all over the globe.
     
    The Chinese really like Buicks, and in Italy, a vintage Corvette (not necessarily expensive if the numbers don't match, i.e., a hobby resto car with a crate motor and a slushbox) is more prestigious than a Ferrari, new or old.
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  56. BB753 says:
    @Lurker
    Marisa Tomei? Noooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The thought of that clambering all over such an angel is too depressing.

    It didn’t seem depressing to Marissa Tomei when it happened. You’d be surprised to find out what women will do for a job, any kind of job, let alone a good part in a Hollywood movie.
    I bet there are fewer than 10 women in all of Hollywood who have evaded the casting couch, A and B-listers.

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    It's depressing for me though!
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  57. mobi says:
    @Cool McCool

    Weinstein, Toback, Ratner, Wieseltier, Halperin, Hoffman, Piven, Polanski. white male patriarchy at its worst
     
    The other 800 pound gorilla in the room. It ain’t "white folks." It’s cultural, and it’s a Jewish thing.

    Too many Jewish men have major issues with pretty women, especially shiksas. They like to defeat them. Some kind of mom issue? A cultural carry-over of Eastern European Jewish orthodoxy from generations ago, and old habits die hard? Someone here might have far better insight than me as to why. It’s just something I’ve noticed enough in the past to regard it as "a Jewish thing."

    It’s a pattern that’s certainly on display now. It’s just that nobody wants to say it, for some reason.

    I guess doing that is when the gloves really come off.

    Too many Jewish men have major issues with pretty women, especially shiksas. They like to defeat them. Some kind of mom issue? A cultural carry-over of Eastern European Jewish orthodoxy from generations ago, and old habits die hard? Someone here might have far better insight than me as to why. It’s just something I’ve noticed enough in the past to regard it as “a Jewish thing.”

    By the way, is a preference for cornering female near-strangers, dropping your pants, and masturbating in front of them ‘a thing’, or just a (((thing)))?
    Let’s conduct a survey. I have three examples, so far:
    1) (((Jabba Weinstein)))
    2) an unnamed Hollywood big-wig (((producer))), targeting Kathie Lee Gifford:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4963526/Kathie-Lee-Gifford-forced-watch-producer-masturbate.html

    3) Uber-feminist liberal and bad-white mocker (((Louis CK))):

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/louis-ck-confronts-sexual-misconduct-rumors_us_59b7b3ade4b09be41657e3e9

    I have an open mind about this.

    4) (((James Toback)))

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5005765/Thirty-women-accuse-James-Toback-sexual-harassment.html

    Ok, in fairness, he might be 2)

    5) Brett Ratner:

    Olivia Munn said that while visiting the set of the 2004 Ratner-directed “After the Sunset” when she was still an aspiring actress, he masturbated in front of her in his trailer when she went to deliver a meal.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-brett-ratner-allegations-20171101-htmlstory.html

    It isn’t just the ‘harassment’ itself. It’s the style – ritual humiliation of the victim, even without physical contact. Zero need for the perpetrator to feel any embarrassment or shame at all.

    (((Five for Five))) so far.

    Still counting…

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  58. Jack D says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I don't understand why everybody keeps going back to Marisa Tomei's 1992 Best Supporting Actress Oscar in My Cousin Vinny as a mistake.

    First, she's great in My Cousin Vinny.

    Second, she's earned two more Oscar nominations since, including for playing a stripper in 2008 in The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke.

    Third, she's almost impervious to aging. She is working steadily in giant budget movies in her 50s. They recently wrote her into the Marvel movies as Spider-Man's suddenly-sexy Aunt May to flirt with Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark. They have a lot of chemistry together. I'm sure she is planning on graduating from sexy aunt to sexy grandma to sexy great-grandma roles.

    Fourth, I can think of other young actresses who won Oscars in her era who haven't had her career.

    I think the beef against Tomei getting the Award for My Cousin Vinny is it wasn’t really “acting”. For a Brooklyn Italian girl to play a Brooklyn Italian girl is not a big stretch. If Meryl Streep or Dame Judy Dench had played a Brooklyn Italian girl THAT would be acting.

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    I think the "Best Supporting" actor roles are largely seen as pseudo-legacy awards for actors who did a great body of work but somehow didn't get the accolades/awards/acknowledgement previously. (For example, I fully expect Steve Buscemi to get one late in his career in some uncle/grandfather role in a comedy-drama. I would say the same for Tom Cruise, but he seems to have given up on ever playing second banana in any film or to acting for awards).

    At the time, Tomei was up against Miranda Richardson, Joan Plowright, Vanessa Redgrave and Judy Davis for the award, all of whom had more outstanding acting roles in the past. So Tomei's win was about people being miffed that the upstart took the crown, and the fact that the Academy looks down on comedic roles.

    The great thing about My Cousin Vinny is that it so obviously started out as a play that it isn't funny. The small cast, the rounded 3-D characters, the various funny but non exaggerated accents (Brookylnese v. Deep South) that seem to harken back to The Foreigner's love of mixing funny accents, the well-developed stagey jokes (e.g. the public defender who appears professional and confident, only to become a stuttering mess in court). Everyone involved deserved an award.

    , @anonymous-antimarxist
    Does anybody remember or even care about the other movies in which the best supporting actress was nominated for the 1993 Oscar???


    Judy Davis – Husbands and Wives as Sally Wainwright
    Joan Plowright – Enchanted April as Mrs. Fisher
    Vanessa Redgrave – Howards End as Ruth Wilcox
    Miranda Richardson – Damage as Ingrid Fleming

    None of these movies were hits or memorable. In fact Damage was a really dark and disturbing if not perverted film by Louis Malle. 3 of the actresses were British and from Royal Shakespearean factory. Judy Davis was nominated for one of Woody Allen's lesser movies. Did Vanessa Redgrave really need another Oscar for not one of her best performances is a boring Merchant/Ivory production?

    In fact what made Marisa Tomei's win so stunning was that she beat the Wienstein/Miramax hype machine that pushed Joan Plowright as the favorite.

    Meanwhile "My Cousin Vinny" was one of the year's biggest hits making more than 5 times its budget. It is also one of the rare Hollywood comedies that is a huge hit that does not insult the Goyim. Being "Woke" to the JQ, I may no longer entirely enjoy "Caddieshack" or "Revenge of the Nerds" the way I did as a kid, but I still love "My Cousin Vinny".

    Miss Mona Lisa Vito is in fact the rare Alt-Right approved "White Sharia" heroine. She wants her man to be successful so that she can settle down and become a mother. Her "My Biological Clock is Ticking" scene is one of the most memorable by any actress in decades.

    My Cousin Vinny Biological Clock
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX15un8nf3o

    And it is not the only great scene by Tomei.

    My Cousin Vinny (5/5) Movie CLIP - Automotive Expert (1992) HD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nGQLQF1b6I

    The defense is wrong
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFdJza0AbeA

    Tomei in fact is one of the rare actresses who created a character that is a immediate cultural reference for generations. And she did it all while being billed under that great thespian Ralph Macchio

    Belichick My Cousin Vinny Reference
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BQveRsxcNw

    The Rich Eisen Show: Marisa Tomei talks Belichick's "My Cousin Vinny" reference

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPQ1eVcoXDw
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  59. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Perv-Purge

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  60. Jack D says:
    @unit472
    Let's not let a witch hunt go to waste. Dartmouth College has three psychology professors on the sexual misconduct career ending chopping block. National Predator Radio just 'suspended' one of their big shots. The British Defense Minister just resigned for being 'handsy'! Harvey Weinstein's gift just keeps on giving and this is one of the few times the 'little people' can reach out and smite the mighty.

    Keep those allegations coming boys and girls and we might yet be able to drain the swamp and far beyond the realm of Hollywood.

    The problem with witch hunts is that they are like forest fires – they are uncontrollable and burn the good along with the bad. Now maybe there is not much good around in our ruling class and they all deserve to be burned but if you look at the history of places that have been through a bonfire of the vanities, it is not encouraging – what comes next is usually even worse. If you don’t like our current ruling class you will like their replacements even less. Those three psych professors may be standard issue liberals but they are white men who received real educations and have some shreds of decency. Their replacements will surely be transgender mulattoes/Latinxes who think of nothing but hating whitey all day long and care nothing for whitey norms like decency and fairness.

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    The problem with witch hunts is that they are like forest fires – they are uncontrollable and burn the good along with the bad. Now maybe there is not much good around in our ruling class and they all deserve to be burned but if you look at the history of places that have been through a bonfire of the vanities, it is not encouraging – what comes next is usually even worse. If you don’t like our current ruling class you will like their replacements even less. Those three psych professors may be standard issue liberals but they are white men who received real educations and have some shreds of decency. Their replacements will surely be transgender mulattoes/Latinxes who think of nothing but hating whitey all day long and care nothing for whitey norms like decency and fairness.
     
    Typical GOP "beautiful loser" cant.
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  61. Thea says:

    OT

    Donna Brazile just threw Clinton, ugly Debbie and Obama under the bus. Does she know something? I thought Obama was beyond reproach so this seems new.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

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    She might get the Seth Rich treatment from the Clintons.
    , @res
    Thanks. It will be interesting to see the fallout. I am surprised there are no comments on that article yet. I wonder how strictly they will be moderating.
    , @Anon
    Her side is out of power, and she's a known corrupt failure. A book deal may be her last chance to make significant money for many, many years. She's unlikely to land a lucrative job unless she turns on her former friends and aligns herself with the new generation of emerging Dem winners in the next election cycle.

    It also may signal that part of the left has decided to eat its own and purge itself. I've been predicting a big Dem civil war after their defeat in 2016, but Trump-hatred has been uniting them so far. The purge is beginning to build up steam, however.
    , @whorefinder
    Donna the Thief?

    The Left is truly ridiculous when it comes to trust. You can lie, cheat, steal, assault, etc., but so long as you do it for leftist causes, the Left will proclaim you trustworthy. Which makes it all the more delicious when they are shocked, SHOCKED when said liar/cheater/thief/assaulter turns around and tabs them in the back.

    That Brazile is given some kind of gravitas by the left after literally stealing from her employer (CNN) to give Hillary the questions in a debate before hand---too hilariously dumb.

    Sociopaths never think that they themselves can be played, it's always everyone else who's the sucker. Which makes socios the biggest suckers of them all, once you realize how to con them.
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  62. DWright says:

    The english actor Thomas Hardy has been prodded about his alleged homosexuality.
    He responded at one point that all those in his business, including men, put out to get the work.
    The way he stated it was as a matter of known fact and why are we choosing to believe otherwise.

    More to the point, he made the point that the whole business is a bunch of whores.

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    Hardy made a similar honest statement about steroid use in Hollywood.

    Hardy played Bane in the Batman film The Dark Knight Rises (the capper to the Christopher Nolan trilogy), and someone point blank asked him in an interview if he used steroids to buff up for that role and some other role where he played a bareknuckle boxer.

    Hardy's response was a very sarcastic, "Oh, no, I just worked out and ate right for three months and magically became as buff as a 10-year-verteran bodybuilder. What the heck do you think?"

    I've liked Hardy's work since he played the bad guy/Picard's clone son Shinzon in the final Next Generation move Star Trek: Nemesis even though most of the movie is crap. Thought Hardy played an excellent bad guy in a movie that didn't deserve him, and his final death scene was great.

    Anyway a few years ago there a was brief moment where it came out that steroid use was rampant in the rap community, which made sense, given how so many rappers were appearing shirtless and looking like they spent years in the Mr. Universe competition (for example, I remember the now-bankrupt 50 Cent's name being tossed around in the scandal). It was quickly hushed up and flushed down the memory hole because the music labels need the majority of their rappers to look like hard bad boys in order to sell records, rather than the music geek wusses most of them are.

    Almost every superhero movie now contains an obligatory shot of the male protagonist with his shirt off showing off a body building look or else a Brad Pitt from Fight Club physique. Heck, even Ant Man had one. This goes back to Sam Raimi's first Spiderman. It's all pretty gay, and also pretty obvious these dudes are on juice.
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  63. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Jack D
    I think the beef against Tomei getting the Award for My Cousin Vinny is it wasn't really "acting". For a Brooklyn Italian girl to play a Brooklyn Italian girl is not a big stretch. If Meryl Streep or Dame Judy Dench had played a Brooklyn Italian girl THAT would be acting.

    I think the “Best Supporting” actor roles are largely seen as pseudo-legacy awards for actors who did a great body of work but somehow didn’t get the accolades/awards/acknowledgement previously. (For example, I fully expect Steve Buscemi to get one late in his career in some uncle/grandfather role in a comedy-drama. I would say the same for Tom Cruise, but he seems to have given up on ever playing second banana in any film or to acting for awards).

    At the time, Tomei was up against Miranda Richardson, Joan Plowright, Vanessa Redgrave and Judy Davis for the award, all of whom had more outstanding acting roles in the past. So Tomei’s win was about people being miffed that the upstart took the crown, and the fact that the Academy looks down on comedic roles.

    The great thing about My Cousin Vinny is that it so obviously started out as a play that it isn’t funny. The small cast, the rounded 3-D characters, the various funny but non exaggerated accents (Brookylnese v. Deep South) that seem to harken back to The Foreigner‘s love of mixing funny accents, the well-developed stagey jokes (e.g. the public defender who appears professional and confident, only to become a stuttering mess in court). Everyone involved deserved an award.

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    actors who did a great body of work ...
     
    Not a felicitous phrase at the moment.
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  64. Truth says:
    @guest
    Afro-Jews doesn't ring. How about we call them Jew-fros?

    Actually the technical name for Afro-Jews is “Jews.” The name for white Jews is “Jewish”, meaning “Jew-like.”

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  65. Neoconned says:
    @TelfoedJohn
    Put this article through the google translate. Claude Lanzmann, director of the Holocaust documentary Shoah - no business like Shoah Business - seems to be another Weinstein.

    https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2017/10/18/metoo-oftewel-hij-ook-13559309-a1577724

    Elie Weisel is also a bit grabby it seems: http://heebmagazine.com/elie-wiesels-sexual-conduct-might-be-worse-than-you-think/58036

    I can’t work out if there is a pattern going on with all these revelations.

    More targets for the Femquisition. Men are men. Testosterone makes us act that way. I love that phrase “misconduct” as though catcalling it flirting isn’t normal and natural.

    In the age of social media journalism there no longer is any editorial process. Just journalistic anarchy. Libel, rumormill, slander, and gossip house mongering are the rule of the day.

    They already took down one of the most important men in Hollywood. This emboldened them so now every bimbo from here to Timbuktu with a bruised ego wants in on the attention racket. Pat me on the back sisters!

    OMG! I can’t believe I had to debase and lower myself when I was younger by sucking off or massaging that old fat Jewish guy w back hair! Ewwwwww!

    Let’s destroy him now that a dog pile is forming….

    A former president of the United States with dementia was even snared by the Femquisition. He’s in a fuckin wheelchair but hey that doesn’t matter.

    People forget sexual harassment isn’t a crime but at most a civil or personnel issue. But hearing the Twitterati bitch and moan you wouldn’t know that would you?

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    More targets for the Femquisition. Men are men. Testosterone makes us act that way. I love that phrase “misconduct” as though catcalling it flirting isn’t normal and natural.
     
    Don't blame testosterone, once a man understands how testosterone affects his mind and body he can both harness it and direct it towards lots of positive and productive behaviors.

    Perversion and not testosterone created Harvey and Toback. Who wants to masturbate into a potted plant???
    , @Olorin

    More targets for the Femquisition. Men are men. Testosterone makes us act that way.
     
    Speak for yourself, degenerate.

    OMG! I can’t believe I had to debase and lower myself when I was younger by sucking off or massaging that old fat Jewish guy w back hair! Ewwwwww!
     
    Non-degenerate men don't think like this...and do a pretty good job of keeping our daughters from forming character that would allow them to go there When Younger. In fact our daughters would react to such a thing not with "I have to do this" but deployment of molecular separation devices. If they were hellbent on becoming entertainers in the first place, which isn't likely.

    Non-degenerate men also support women who wake up from their former degeneracy and guide them into better possibilities going forward. Even if we do consider the Current Year to be a tad on the hysterical side.

    Of course that assumes we know how to handle women and their emotions/reactions.

    But I guess virtue signalling about the manliness of abusing the topiary, as well as oneself, is more important than warning younger people from experience about degeneracy. So either Rosie the Regretter is going to have to step to the plate and take back their nights, or we're going to have to import some brown people to do the cleanup that American men won't do.

    now that a dog pile is forming….
     
    TMI about Hollywood.
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  66. MBlanc46 says:
    @22pp22
    Off topic. Question to fellow Sailerites from a non-American.

    How much danger is Trump in?

    They’re about to employ a full court press against him. It could get very ugly very soon.

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    People speculate on how the American Empire will end. This would be the catalyst. Maybe not a civil war or a match to gasoline, but it will have the same result within years. The globalist puppet masters and their henchman think they can pull off a bloodless coup with finagling and fictions and then things will return to normal and the racket can go on. And Americans will accept this and simply go on. They might or might not. It they do, it will only be for a while as they work directly or indirectly to degrade the established order. Things will never return to how they were. If Mueller, Weismann, et al., are successful, it will be a Pyrrhic victory for them personally, and for the U.S.
    , @It's All Ball Bearings
    ....If that full court press were to be employed by the Washington Generals
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  67. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Lurker
    Marisa has good genes. She's lovely *sigh*.

    Marisa has good genes. She’s lovely *sigh*.

    And then she opens her mouth and you realize she’s an idiot. *sigh*

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  68. Sunbeam says:
    @Lurker

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today’s world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain’t no such thing as nurture.

    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What’s more, their movies suck, even the “brainy” ones.
     
    If there's no such thing as nurture why would it matter what crapola Hollywood produces because it wouldn't affect anything?

    “If there’s no such thing as nurture why would it matter what crapola Hollywood produces because it wouldn’t affect anything?”

    If you are a believer in “Strong HBD” or something to that effect, it doesn’t. Never mind your lying eyes.

    One thing HBD has taught me, at least what I take away from it, is that the conventional wisdom of circa 1900 may have been more accurate than the current prevailing one.

    But I’ve been told things like if you run with a bad crowd, you’ll get in trouble and come to no good.

    And you know? The old people that told me things like that turned out to be right in the long run.

    But then HBD tells me you can do something like raise a kid in a barrel, and he can be decasked at the age of 18 and promptly win the Fields Medal or become an Olympic sprint champion. Because genes you know, if he has the right ones.

    Or if everyone in your neighborhood drinks like a fish, does smack, smokes weed, and lives outside the law, you never will if your genes are right.

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    "Strong HBD" is a straw man. Everyone with any sense from ancient times until the present understood that man is a product of nature AND nurture. For lack of a better number, 50/50 is a good working estimate. The problem with the current year conventional wisdom is that they think that it is 100% nurture, 0% nature and if you say it's even 1% nature your a Nazi. That's even crazier than 0/100 but we don't have to pick either extreme.
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  69. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The common pattern is that all these guys are ugly, physically repulsive types but who put themselves in positions as human toll booths where women (and men and underage youths) had to pay up to pass through. Pretty good positioning on their part. They are nauseating specimens with kinky and exhibitionistic tendencies. Can you imagine the horrid spectacle of seeing the naked body of Weinstein coming out of the shower? A person would have PTSD for the rest of their life after seeing such a thing. All this seems to have the effect of cutting the moral high ground out from underneath all these showbiz types at a time they were all baying at Trump. Trump’s luck seems to be kicking in yet again. Fling open all the closets.

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    Can you imagine the horrid spectacle of seeing the naked body of Weinstein coming out of the shower? A person would have PTSD for the rest of their life after seeing such a thing.
     
    In that case the entire population of medical practitioners, nurses, swimming pool attendants, and other health care professionals are irredeemably damaged! No, in reality as any whore will tell you, a body is just a body and fucking for a living is better than many kinds of unskilled work as long as the fuckee has decent personal hygiene and does not get on top of you if obese.

    Now if Weinstein had rotting teeth and a colostomy, that would be another matter.
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  70. Mr. Anon says:
    @22pp22
    Off topic. Question to fellow Sailerites from a non-American.

    How much danger is Trump in?

    How much danger is Trump in?

    His agenda has largely been co-opted, and he is not really a threat to the establishment. So, not much.

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  71. @22pp22
    Off topic. Question to fellow Sailerites from a non-American.

    How much danger is Trump in?

    Ignore the American Lying Press. If Trump builds the Mexican border wall (and radically restricts immigration), he will be re-elected in 2020. His fate is in his own hands.

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  72. @Sunbeam
    You are evading his contention.

    Cool McCool wrote:

    "Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other’s “P for Play” marketing plans? Should these “play by the secret rules” kids be urged to “come out” or be outed? Do they get a “get out of National Shame free” card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we’ll always be sprouting more Harvey’s."

    What he is saying is big, it is epic, and it is self-explanatory: Virtually everyone who appears in a Hollywood film, male or female, put out to get where they are. In Catch-22 fashion, if they didn't, they don't have the gold ring now.

    Prove or disprove it. Ignore it if you wish. But you know your audience and they aren't the type to be swayed by a clever quip or rejoinder (or Tweet).

    There is apparently a "fake" interview with Brad Pitt out there, where he ruminates on the movie business. Fake Brad apparently said something like "They have a casting call and 1000 people apply. Out of that, probably 100 would work for the role. How do you select among that 100?"

    I have a theory that you California guys are too close to this business (Hollywood). It is pretty common in the rest of America to find a "Let it Burn" attitude towards it. I know I'd supply the match.

    And as at least one poster has repeatedly stated, you have been pretty silent on the Kevin Spacey situation. Or for a blast from the recent past, what about Travolta? There was lots of interesting stuff to apply Haven Monahan's Razor to in that situation.

    You know sometimes I wonder. I read this site, and I see all kinds of things about reaction times, Word Sums, Fields Medals, blah, blah, blah.

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today's world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain't no such thing as nurture.

    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What's more, their movies suck, even the "brainy" ones.

    What's up with that?

    Intelligence and character/prosociality are not the same thing, in fact I think they are pretty much orthogonal. But even a casual observer of humans will quickly pick up that they are both largely hereditary.

    Suppose you had a subculture that was high on the intelligence axis and low on the character axis. What do you suppose that subculture might look like? Can you think of any examples?

    We do need to dial back on the belief that intelligence is the only important hereditary cognitive trait. Particularly in this era of ubiquitous cognitive aids (calculators, spell checkers, the internet, etc.) and rapid dissemination of new knowledge, the success of failure of a society is probably determined more by the prosociality of its inhabitants than average intelligence.

    Which, again, is mostly a matter of nature, not nurture. Therefore a well designed society will push those with prosocial behaviors towards fecundity and those with antisocial behaviors towards barrenness.

    Our society does the opposite, of course.

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    "We do need to dial back on the belief that intelligence is the only important hereditary cognitive trait."

    This is what I think as well, though I haven't phrased it as well as you have.

    There are two subgroups in the US, that while not stupid, are nevertheless quite successful (even if not outsize Wall Street Mogul successful). The Amish and Mormons.

    The Amish are really interesting in this respect. Their basic secret seems to be not going into debt and avoiding consumer culture.

    Who knew? Anyway they aren't doing it by sending all their kids to MIT and Harvard.

    , @Samuel Skinner
    Amusingly the trait is even easier to measure then intelligence- it is well encapsulated in clannishness.
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  73. Mr. Anon says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I don't understand why everybody keeps going back to Marisa Tomei's 1992 Best Supporting Actress Oscar in My Cousin Vinny as a mistake.

    First, she's great in My Cousin Vinny.

    Second, she's earned two more Oscar nominations since, including for playing a stripper in 2008 in The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke.

    Third, she's almost impervious to aging. She is working steadily in giant budget movies in her 50s. They recently wrote her into the Marvel movies as Spider-Man's suddenly-sexy Aunt May to flirt with Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark. They have a lot of chemistry together. I'm sure she is planning on graduating from sexy aunt to sexy grandma to sexy great-grandma roles.

    Fourth, I can think of other young actresses who won Oscars in her era who haven't had her career.

    Indeed, Marisa Tomei still looks quite good. She was notable as the sexy middle-aged teacher in Crazy, Stupid, Love. She looks like what Carrie Fisher might have looked like if she had taken better care of herself.

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    I was thinking of that movie too. She's been game for smaller roles like that, and does great in them.

    She was also in an indie movie around the turn of the century called In The Bedroom. I helped set up a 401(k) for the production company, which was in SoHo or Chelsea in Manhattan. I remember there was some a-hole producer or something with a British accent unloading a string of obscenities at someone on the phone while his yellow Lab was laying down at his feet.
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  74. Clyde says:
    @22pp22
    Off topic. Question to fellow Sailerites from a non-American.

    How much danger is Trump in?

    Donald Trump is cruising along at 50/50 approval that the polls you are seeing do not indicate. Matters are at a stalemate right now in the US. No advantage to Trump or the forces arrayed against him which (obviously) are not just Democrats. We are in steady state.

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    I doubt very many people would switch their previous vote today from Trump to Clinton. I certainly wouldn't.
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  75. Altai says:

    Michael Oreskes (Senior vice president of news at NPR) is now the centre of similar allegations to those of Wieseltier. Again that he (Among other things) forcibly kissed several female colleagues. This is really quite shocking to me.

    Similar to Weinstein and Wieseltier he is roughly the same age and from a Jewish family and grew up in New York.

    It could just be over-representation of that background in these industries but the fact that these men have amazing brazen public harassment alleged since long before they were very powerful makes me wonder if there wasn’t an attitude to outgroup women they picked up in their youth. I don’t think such attitudes are as tolerated now, but back when these men were young. But I see a distinct pattern forming.

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  76. possible that 100% of studios operated on the “pay to play” system but I think in the current witch hunting atmosphere we would hear about it if that was true. Instead, after the initial wave of serious abusers like Harvey, they are now going after guys who once upon a time pinched a girl’s behind or made a dirty joke. If there was a deep vein to be mined they wouldn’t be going after the slim pickin’s so soon.

    1. “Lay to play”

    2. If the women (and men) are happy with the deal they got, which logic says most of them are, then what would be the point of coming forward?

    3. To me it looks like a deep vein, hoping they can sacrifice a few lesser figures and avoid blowing the lid off the whole thing. Payoffs and other arrangements being made. Not everybody has the cash or clout to protect himself. And then random targets of opportunity are getting taken down

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    Hollywood finally turned on the Weinsteins because they know that now has a huge image problem.

    I really like Jennifer Lawrence, especially in Silver Linings Playbook, American Hustle, Joy... even Passengers. She is really one of the rare actresses that connects with her audience and its not just her beauty. She really is a kid from Kentucky. Hell her start was on the "Blue Collar Comedian" Bill Engvall show

    But the rumors of her debasing herself as a 19 year old to land the role in Winter's Bone is deeply disturbing.

    And it is not just the female actresses.

    I think most folks have heard rumors about Tom Cruise and especially John Travolta and what they may have done in the early days of their careers. I even wonder about Brad Pitt.

    Boys even men want to be assured of the 100 percent hetero masculinity of their screen heroes.

    Where are today's John Wayne, Charles Bronson, Steve McQeen, Humphrey Bogart, Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart....???

    It is sad the the only actor today that is reassuredly 100 hetero is Denzel Washington. Hell Hollywood even let him play the initially "homophobic" lawyer in Philadelphia.
    , @res

    2. If the women (and men) are happy with the deal they got, which logic says most of them are, then what would be the point of coming forward?
     
    A few.

    - Simple resentment. Especially if the deal turned out worse than they expected going in.
    - Want to eat their cake and have it too.
    - Given how they so effortlessly became successful once given the opportunity it should not have been necessary to do that.
    - Wanting to recast the narrative as them being exploited rather than them being a (pick a word).

    It does not really work to think about this as a simple deal. There are many stages (and I am probably missing some).
    - Put out or get out.
    - Have put out but benefits not granted yet. (how many of the casting couch group don't get the purported benefits in the end?)
    - Initial success but still vulnerable to being torn down or just not adequately supported going forward.
    - Successful enough that they don't need support.
    - Successful enough that they can get work, etc. after active opposition.

    How much of the payoff to the Weinstein-types is later being able to say/remember what they did with this beautiful, successful, and much loved figure? I think the humiliation aspect is hard for a normal person to really understand.

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  77. @Jack D
    I think the beef against Tomei getting the Award for My Cousin Vinny is it wasn't really "acting". For a Brooklyn Italian girl to play a Brooklyn Italian girl is not a big stretch. If Meryl Streep or Dame Judy Dench had played a Brooklyn Italian girl THAT would be acting.

    Does anybody remember or even care about the other movies in which the best supporting actress was nominated for the 1993 Oscar???

    Judy Davis – Husbands and Wives as Sally Wainwright
    Joan Plowright – Enchanted April as Mrs. Fisher
    Vanessa Redgrave – Howards End as Ruth Wilcox
    Miranda Richardson – Damage as Ingrid Fleming

    None of these movies were hits or memorable. In fact Damage was a really dark and disturbing if not perverted film by Louis Malle. 3 of the actresses were British and from Royal Shakespearean factory. Judy Davis was nominated for one of Woody Allen’s lesser movies. Did Vanessa Redgrave really need another Oscar for not one of her best performances is a boring Merchant/Ivory production?

    In fact what made Marisa Tomei’s win so stunning was that she beat the Wienstein/Miramax hype machine that pushed Joan Plowright as the favorite.

    Meanwhile “My Cousin Vinny” was one of the year’s biggest hits making more than 5 times its budget. It is also one of the rare Hollywood comedies that is a huge hit that does not insult the Goyim. Being “Woke” to the JQ, I may no longer entirely enjoy “Caddieshack” or “Revenge of the Nerds” the way I did as a kid, but I still love “My Cousin Vinny”.

    Miss Mona Lisa Vito is in fact the rare Alt-Right approved “White Sharia” heroine. She wants her man to be successful so that she can settle down and become a mother. Her “My Biological Clock is Ticking” scene is one of the most memorable by any actress in decades.

    My Cousin Vinny Biological Clock

    And it is not the only great scene by Tomei.

    My Cousin Vinny (5/5) Movie CLIP – Automotive Expert (1992) HD

    The defense is wrong

    Tomei in fact is one of the rare actresses who created a character that is a immediate cultural reference for generations. And she did it all while being billed under that great thespian Ralph Macchio

    Belichick My Cousin Vinny Reference

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    The late Fred Gwynne was a great actor, wasn’t he? I used to watch the Munsters regularly as a kid. I would’ve never guessed that Herman Munster was from upper-class Tuxedo Park and educated at the exclusive Groton School and Harvard University. And served in WWII. A different era, when men were men.
    , @Bragadocious
    Yeah, she's great in it. Me and a friend go on all day quoting MCV. Particularly this exchange.

    "But you didn't read the article"

    "No"

    "Too bad"

    Why?"

    "Cause he's DEAD"

    This can be used in a number of ways. Any use of "too bad" requires a reference to this scene, as does any reference to someone dying unexpectedly. And if you didn't read something you should have....well you get the idea.
    , @Kylie
    "Did Vanessa Redgrave really need another Oscar for not one of her best performances is[sic] a boring Merchant/Ivory production?"

    How can you say that? Vanessa Redgrave as Ruth Wilcox in Howards End was marvellous playing an exquisite reactionary.

    I don't know that Redgrave is a very good actress. She has a luminous screen presence that tends to make all the characters she plays seem similar and to cast the actors with her into shadow. But that works beautifully in this film because Ruth Wilcox is a shimmering presence throughout the movie, despite her death early on.
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  78. @whorefinder

    Too many Jewish men have major issues with pretty women, especially shiksas. They like to defeat them. Some kind of mom issue?
     
    Jews have, on average, much more sexual perversion than non-Jews. People commented on this freely for a very long time, and then Jews decided that they were the normal ones and everyone else was "repressed" and needed to be "liberated" from their repression, and made up some unsupported "psychoanalysis" nonsense to justify why everyone needed to be pegged and have multiple sex partners.

    That sexual "liberation" has made a lot of goyim quite miserable, but nobody in mainstream culture says so, because who controls the megaphone?

    Freethinking white people promoted sexual freedom before Jews got into the act, starting in the Enlightenment. You can’t blame Jews for the Oneida cult in the 19th Century, for example.

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    Freethinking white people promoted sexual freedom before Jews got into the act, starting in the Enlightenment. You can’t blame Jews for the Oneida cult in the 19th Century, for example.
     
    Sexual freedom is perennially popular...at least, before the walls cave in.

    It was hallmark of the late Roman Empire.

    The Gnostics of the middle ages were fans, but only if didn't result in children. Let's just say, after 100 years of degeneracy, among other problems, you might have been on the side of the French Bishops who raised armies after the Cathars did.

    If absolutely nothing else, the 10 Commandments work in keeping a society pulled together and understand that sex has more of a reality than just pleasure.

    , @guest
    What you're talking about is absolutely true, but it was secret. David Stove was emphatic on the Secret of the Enlightenment being free love and birth control. It was hinted at and guessed, but kept bottled up for a long time. They didn't advocate it openly, maybe merely because the ground hadn't been well enough prepared for people not to kill them with fire if they came out.

    But it's not as if Freud's time was obviously ripe. Retrospectively, yes, because we know he blew up the dam open. Then again, it was more of a moral victory. The fruits didn't bloom civilization-wide until the 60s. High culture, especially arts, back when was degenerating. The "Decadents" and so forth of the 1890s. But that was only a small part of the culture.

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  79. Dennis Dale says: • Website

    “Never make Harvey like you.”

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  80. Wilkey says:

    For some weird reason I remember watching the Bret Ratner movie “Family Man” (iirc) with the commentary turned on. I must have been home sick in bed and had nothing better to do. He kept name dropping that he had dated Rebecca Gayheart, whoever the hell she is, and I remember thinking “this guy is a complete and total douche.” Not at all shocked by this one.

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    Rebecca Gayheart was the Noxzema girl in the early 90s, who went on to act in a few films.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVmoxgmG7YQ
    , @duncsbaby
    Rebecca Gayheart was breathtakingly beautiful in her prime. She was also (big surprise) a hot mess who actually killed someone in a car accident.

    http://people.com/celebrity/ex-90210-star-wrongful-death-suit/
     
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  81. Titus says:
    @hhh
    Weinstein, Toback, Ratner, Wieseltier, Halperin, Hoffman, Piven, Polanski. white male patriarchy at its worst

    If you ask any Ashkenazi, they will tell you emphatically that they are ethnically not white.

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    My experience has been the exact opposite.
    , @Jack D
    You're sure about that now? All it would take is one and you'd be wrong.

    Many people who can get away with it are whatever it is most profitable to be at the moment. Anatole Broyard was a not white who said he was white because that was the best thing to be in his time. Rachel Dolezal is a white who says she is not white because that is the current thing to be in the current year. Elizabeth Warren too. So it's not surprising that some Jews will pick not-white. Lots of non-Jews never accepted Jews on the white team to begin with, so they shouldn't be upset.
    , @unpc downunder
    In determining someones race, I tend to go by appearance, and my appearance radar tells me most European Jews are at least 50 percent white. And this theory that Jewish film producers are getting revenge on northern Europeans by sexually harassing their women sounds bonkers. The Hollywood producers with the biggest fetish for WASP blonds are gentiles like Hitchcock and Eastwood, and a lot of Hollywood Jews probably have more WASP blood than many of the women they are harassing. Weinstein certainly looks whiter than the swarthy Italian model who triggered this current witch hunt.
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  82. Germany needs to take these Hollywood guys in as refugees.

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  83. Ian M. says:
    @whorefinder

    Too many Jewish men have major issues with pretty women, especially shiksas. They like to defeat them. Some kind of mom issue?
     
    Jews have, on average, much more sexual perversion than non-Jews. People commented on this freely for a very long time, and then Jews decided that they were the normal ones and everyone else was "repressed" and needed to be "liberated" from their repression, and made up some unsupported "psychoanalysis" nonsense to justify why everyone needed to be pegged and have multiple sex partners.

    That sexual "liberation" has made a lot of goyim quite miserable, but nobody in mainstream culture says so, because who controls the megaphone?

    Jews have, on average, much more sexual perversion than non-Jews. People commented on this freely for a very long time, and then Jews decided that they were the normal ones and everyone else was “repressed” and needed to be “liberated” from their repression, and made up some unsupported “psychoanalysis” nonsense to justify why everyone needed to be pegged and have multiple sex partners.

    Are there any stats on this? Jews are certainly heavily implicated in pornography. I also get the sense today that there are a disproportionate number of Jewish homosexuals when compared to other groups. On the other hand, I remember a friend sending me some survey that showed that of all the groups surveyed, Jews had the highest percentage of those who had never partaken in the solitary vice, which surprised me.

    The impression I get is that, say, in fin de siècle western Europe and into the early 20th century, Jews were associated more with heterosexual vice and lechery, while Northwestern European gentiles were more associated with homosexual vice, although in the pagan milieu that had become fashionable at the time, this wasn’t necessarily considered a vice, but something virile and manly.

    For example, Paul Johnson in Modern Times writes that the nudist sunbathing movement that arose in Germany in the early 20th century came to be regarded as having a good kind and bad kind: the ‘good’ kind of nudism was Aryan and either non-sexual or homosexual in contrast to the bad ‘Jewish’ type of nudism, which was considered heterosexual and erotic.

    German gentiles like Adolf Brand and Hans Blüher advocated for pederastic relationships as being highly masculine and ideal. They opposed the Jew Magnus Hirschfeld because they regarded his brand of homosexuality as being effeminate.

    I get a similar sense about England during that same time period, but to a lesser degree.

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    It's all in here:

    https://www.amazon.com/Homo-Negro-James-J-OMeara/dp/1935965476
    , @whorefinder
    The connection I note is between incestual groups: people whose marriages/immediate family history involves very close relations being sexual tend to be extremely perverted.

    I think that the amount of normal sexual disgust about incest is not there in such families, and as a result the "experimentation" of the family in other extreme practices---homosexuality, anal sex, multiple partners, S&M, etc.---goes way up. Certainly the large percentage of homosexuals who claim molestation as a youth (somewhere around 40%) lends credence to my hypothesis, as the molestation usually comes from family members, who, in healthy families, would be repulsed by being sexual with their own kin.

    Jews tend to be extremely inbred in the West, due to the fact of their own religious practices barring intermarriage with goyim, their low numbers, and their actually declaring that the goyim are somehow less human than the Jews themselves. If you trace the family tree of American Jew, you'll find a lot of close intermarriages that would seem icky to a modern person. (e.g. The Wolf Of Wall Street's Jonah Hill character).

    This causes projection. This is why Jews tend to constantly berate Southern white Scotch-Irish as "inbreds", even going so far as having a subgenre of film trope about them---horror films/comedy films where the bad guys are all incestual white country folk from the former confederate states. It's pure psychological attack on the Jews part, covering up the fact that they consistently marry their own cousins even today.

    This also goes for American blacks (the incest/projection onto whites), but even fewer people talk about that because, while Jews might occasionally joke about inbreeding (e.g. every Askenazi is a 3rd cousin to every other), blacks never do, and certainly our culture does not allow for criticism of the black community's abuse. What is more, since most blacks have no idea who their father is, but daddy often has multiple children from multiple women in the same black ghetoo, half-brothers and sisters get together a lot and don't even know it. And then, since most black men aren't getting laid (it's a Big Man culture), many turn to each other when horny, which is why there's a black cultural thing of being on the down low.

    Anyway, I don't have any hard numbers, but this is just from noticing things that aren't supposed to be noticed. I don't think you could actually come up with a hard number on either group in 2017 simply because any attempt would be decried as racist/anti-semitic and the communities themselves would clam up once you started asking questions (incest/family sexual abuse isn't something actual victims like talking about).

    Yes, there are instances of white goyim being all about perverted sex and trying hippie stuff; certainly Jews would not be so famously into the flesh trade if there weren't at least some goyim eagerly buying it. The goyim movements, however, tended to have a nationalistic/open racial/religious to it, befitting movements where philosophy begat the practices, while the Jewish ones were all about trying to justify the practice because the practice was already beloved.
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  84. Sunbeam says:
    @SimpleSong
    Intelligence and character/prosociality are not the same thing, in fact I think they are pretty much orthogonal. But even a casual observer of humans will quickly pick up that they are both largely hereditary.

    Suppose you had a subculture that was high on the intelligence axis and low on the character axis. What do you suppose that subculture might look like? Can you think of any examples?

    We do need to dial back on the belief that intelligence is the only important hereditary cognitive trait. Particularly in this era of ubiquitous cognitive aids (calculators, spell checkers, the internet, etc.) and rapid dissemination of new knowledge, the success of failure of a society is probably determined more by the prosociality of its inhabitants than average intelligence.

    Which, again, is mostly a matter of nature, not nurture. Therefore a well designed society will push those with prosocial behaviors towards fecundity and those with antisocial behaviors towards barrenness.

    Our society does the opposite, of course.

    “We do need to dial back on the belief that intelligence is the only important hereditary cognitive trait.”

    This is what I think as well, though I haven’t phrased it as well as you have.

    There are two subgroups in the US, that while not stupid, are nevertheless quite successful (even if not outsize Wall Street Mogul successful). The Amish and Mormons.

    The Amish are really interesting in this respect. Their basic secret seems to be not going into debt and avoiding consumer culture.

    Who knew? Anyway they aren’t doing it by sending all their kids to MIT and Harvard.

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    Yeah in many ways the Amish are pretty incredible. They have a TFR > 6, I believe, and while other subgroups in the US may have TFRs that high they mostly manage it by welfare state parasitism. The Amish do this while earning their own bread, however. They successfully compete in commercial farming, a risky, low margin business, while eschewing much modern technology. I expect if there was a nuclear war they would inherit what was left of the earth.

    Mormons are doing OK too, and not just in the demographics department: I note that Kip Thorne, the most recent physics Nobel laureate (and very deserving) is a Jack Mormon. However I think they are in a lot of danger right now because they don't realize the secret to their sauce: they keep trying to convert Africans and other rabble to their religion, and they keep trying to earn the approval of the American public at large. If they don't take a deep breath and back away from the Universalism they're going to end up like the other Christian faiths.
    , @SimpleSong
    I think for hereditary cognitive traits I would make the x, y, z axes intelligence, creativity, and prosociality. Intelligence is the only one of these that can be quickly and (fairly) accurately measured. If you put a bodycam on a person and carefully logged their daily interactions for several years, you could probably put some number on pro- or antisociality but obviously that's not really practical. Measuring true creativity is even tougher and philosophically one might ask if it even exists outside the act of creating (to paraphrase Forrest Gump, creativity is as creativity does.)

    But just because something is hard to quantify doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
    , @Anon 2
    I've never bought into the cognitive fetishism either.
    Sociopaths can be very intelligent but they're still sociopaths,
    and even intelligent people of stellar character can be corrupted by power.

    For a person of moderate intelligence there is no easier path to
    success in life than avoiding addictions - to drinking, smoking, drugs,
    beauty, sex, and food. I think Aristotle was right: nothing is as good for the
    individual and for the society as pursuing a life of virtue, i.e.,
    moderation in all things. For men, specifically, few things can be as potentially
    destructive as addiction to physical beauty and youth. Thomas Mann has
    something to say about it in his novella Death in Venice (1912).
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  85. @27 year old

    possible that 100% of studios operated on the “pay to play” system but I think in the current witch hunting atmosphere we would hear about it if that was true. Instead, after the initial wave of serious abusers like Harvey, they are now going after guys who once upon a time pinched a girl’s behind or made a dirty joke. If there was a deep vein to be mined they wouldn’t be going after the slim pickin’s so soon.
     
    1. "Lay to play"

    2. If the women (and men) are happy with the deal they got, which logic says most of them are, then what would be the point of coming forward?

    3. To me it looks like a deep vein, hoping they can sacrifice a few lesser figures and avoid blowing the lid off the whole thing. Payoffs and other arrangements being made. Not everybody has the cash or clout to protect himself. And then random targets of opportunity are getting taken down

    Hollywood finally turned on the Weinsteins because they know that now has a huge image problem.

    I really like Jennifer Lawrence, especially in Silver Linings Playbook, American Hustle, Joy… even Passengers. She is really one of the rare actresses that connects with her audience and its not just her beauty. She really is a kid from Kentucky. Hell her start was on the “Blue Collar Comedian” Bill Engvall show

    But the rumors of her debasing herself as a 19 year old to land the role in Winter’s Bone is deeply disturbing.

    And it is not just the female actresses.

    I think most folks have heard rumors about Tom Cruise and especially John Travolta and what they may have done in the early days of their careers. I even wonder about Brad Pitt.

    Boys even men want to be assured of the 100 percent hetero masculinity of their screen heroes.

    Where are today’s John Wayne, Charles Bronson, Steve McQeen, Humphrey Bogart, Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart….???

    It is sad the the only actor today that is reassuredly 100 hetero is Denzel Washington. Hell Hollywood even let him play the initially “homophobic” lawyer in Philadelphia.

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    Is that more disturbing to you than her uh, debasing herself just for her own enjoyment? The fappening jpgs don't lie lol, she's not exactly wholesome
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  86. Rod1963 says:
    @Sunbeam
    You are evading his contention.

    Cool McCool wrote:

    "Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other’s “P for Play” marketing plans? Should these “play by the secret rules” kids be urged to “come out” or be outed? Do they get a “get out of National Shame free” card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we’ll always be sprouting more Harvey’s."

    What he is saying is big, it is epic, and it is self-explanatory: Virtually everyone who appears in a Hollywood film, male or female, put out to get where they are. In Catch-22 fashion, if they didn't, they don't have the gold ring now.

    Prove or disprove it. Ignore it if you wish. But you know your audience and they aren't the type to be swayed by a clever quip or rejoinder (or Tweet).

    There is apparently a "fake" interview with Brad Pitt out there, where he ruminates on the movie business. Fake Brad apparently said something like "They have a casting call and 1000 people apply. Out of that, probably 100 would work for the role. How do you select among that 100?"

    I have a theory that you California guys are too close to this business (Hollywood). It is pretty common in the rest of America to find a "Let it Burn" attitude towards it. I know I'd supply the match.

    And as at least one poster has repeatedly stated, you have been pretty silent on the Kevin Spacey situation. Or for a blast from the recent past, what about Travolta? There was lots of interesting stuff to apply Haven Monahan's Razor to in that situation.

    You know sometimes I wonder. I read this site, and I see all kinds of things about reaction times, Word Sums, Fields Medals, blah, blah, blah.

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today's world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain't no such thing as nurture.

    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What's more, their movies suck, even the "brainy" ones.

    What's up with that?

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today’s world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain’t no such thing as nurture.

    You can have a high IQ and still be a utter degenerate. Look at all the creeps in Silicon Valley promoting agendas that are wrecking the country and people. Or all the white professionals who overwhelmingly supported Hillary and the globalist agenda.

    Of course with the tribe, their predatory view towards the rest of the human race undoubtedly colors their view of us. The fact their fellow tribesman on Wall Street have over the decades shown no hesitation to a**rape the country shows that.

    Nurture exists, however when you’re a professional, you need a excuse as to why you’re a worthless father or mother who can’t be bothered to raise their own kid and outsource it to the state or some private institution so you can have a “meaningful career”.

    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What’s more, their movies suck, even the “brainy” ones.

    The golden age of Hollywood was when their immorality was kept in check by various outside pressure groups like the Catholic League or something like that. Once the shackles were removed they reverted to what they do best. Produce schlock and even worse. Remember the torture porn genre they created? SAW and its derivatives. 30 years earlier it would have rated X and only played in sleazy one screen theaters.

    What’s their big money makers today? A series about a bunch of buff dudes driving fast cars and a bunch of comic book adaptations. Basically fare aimed at 15-25 year old males with the attention span of a gnat.

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  87. fish says:
    @whorefinder
    Ratner and McG are in the same category: crap directors who got their start making music videos and then helmed one studio-assembly-line hit movie and somehow that made them household names, even though they suck.

    They both suck, but I somehow hate McG more, simply because he's a big enough prick to have kept the retarded pseudonym of "McG' instead of acting like a grownup and using his real name. Total ass.

    They both suck, but I somehow hate McG more, simply because he’s a big enough prick to have kept the retarded pseudonym of “McG’ instead of acting like a grownup and using his real name. Total ass.

    Hey….if you were named “Total ass” you might prefer McG.

    Oh…..

    Never mind!

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  88. @Neoconned
    More targets for the Femquisition. Men are men. Testosterone makes us act that way. I love that phrase "misconduct" as though catcalling it flirting isn't normal and natural.

    In the age of social media journalism there no longer is any editorial process. Just journalistic anarchy. Libel, rumormill, slander, and gossip house mongering are the rule of the day.

    They already took down one of the most important men in Hollywood. This emboldened them so now every bimbo from here to Timbuktu with a bruised ego wants in on the attention racket. Pat me on the back sisters!

    OMG! I can't believe I had to debase and lower myself when I was younger by sucking off or massaging that old fat Jewish guy w back hair! Ewwwwww!

    Let's destroy him now that a dog pile is forming....

    A former president of the United States with dementia was even snared by the Femquisition. He's in a fuckin wheelchair but hey that doesn't matter.

    People forget sexual harassment isn't a crime but at most a civil or personnel issue. But hearing the Twitterati bitch and moan you wouldn't know that would you?

    More targets for the Femquisition. Men are men. Testosterone makes us act that way. I love that phrase “misconduct” as though catcalling it flirting isn’t normal and natural.

    Don’t blame testosterone, once a man understands how testosterone affects his mind and body he can both harness it and direct it towards lots of positive and productive behaviors.

    Perversion and not testosterone created Harvey and Toback. Who wants to masturbate into a potted plant???

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  89. Pat Boyle says:
    @TelfoedJohn
    Put this article through the google translate. Claude Lanzmann, director of the Holocaust documentary Shoah - no business like Shoah Business - seems to be another Weinstein.

    https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2017/10/18/metoo-oftewel-hij-ook-13559309-a1577724

    Elie Weisel is also a bit grabby it seems: http://heebmagazine.com/elie-wiesels-sexual-conduct-might-be-worse-than-you-think/58036

    I can’t work out if there is a pattern going on with all these revelations.

    There is a lot of loony posturing over the Hollywood casting couch scandals of Harvey Weinstein. But certain truths are ignored. Much as I hate to get involved in this dispute, it falls to me to set a couple facts straight.

    Harvey Weinstein is a Jew. This has allowed many of the anti-Semites who lurk hereabouts to reveal themselves. This is a Hollywood scandal and Hollywood is a Jewish company town. If there were a pervert or sexual predator in Hollywood who wasn’t Jewish – how likely would that be? There don’t seem to be any accusations about the Amish, the Sherpas or the Montagnard Boat People. Finding Jews in Hollywood doesn’t prove much.

    It is possible that the Jews are especially vile towards women – that they are a clan of rapists. But I’ve never heard of that in all the movies that Jews have made about themselves. On these sort of issues my go-to authority is Steve Sailer. So what is it Steve? Are Jews preternaturally obsessed with sex – and act on their obsessions?

    If you look at rape statistics the race you would expect those who are ‘bad’ with women would be Africans and African Americans. The religion of rapists would be Muslims. Jews just don’t show up prominently in the public sex crime statistics.

    I’m not in the movie industry but I have spent a lot of my life involved in Opera. It is not unusual for young women to acquire a role in opera through their sexual charms. I suspect that this sort of thing has gone on in Italian Opera for centuries. There are some parts that almost no one can sing (e.g. The Queen of the Night) and there are others that Mozart wrote such that almost any girl with any kind of voice could handle (e.g. Susana or Cherubino in Le Nozze). How is an impresario to choose among the hundreds of young women who show up at the auditions? You know the answer to that question.

    Weinstein didn’t invent the practice of taking advantage of girls who want to play dress up and go on the stage.

    Now for something a little more controversial. Girls like to be abused. Not all and not in all cases, but in human beings many females long for a ‘strong’ man to control them. This is the unspoken secret – that women like men who take advantage of them. Read Richard Feynman’s books. He discovered that he was more successful with women at bars when he treated them badly. Or you could just look at the ads on the Web. Hundreds of thousands of women advertise that they want to be tied up and beaten by a ‘strong’ man. Contrary to the notions of accepted society, a taste for BDSM is far more common than either homosexuality or transgenderism.

    Females who sexually respond to being abused are probably acting out patterns laid down before humans were human. Chimpanzees (our closest relatives) behave this way. The female chimps usually get beaten up by the male chimp as part of their mating rituals. Not all females get beaten by their male but those that do seem to become more fertile. They have more baby chimps. If you know anything of Darwin you can see where that leads. Females who are beaten, out-breed those who escaped that fate, and come to dominate the gene pool. This does not seem to be the pattern among bonobos – but we descend from chimps not bonobos.

    Most of the girls who have been victimized by Hollywood producers knew exactly what they were getting in to. Those that didn’t were possibly not the smartest ones. As Henry Kissinger discovered – power is sexy. A fat ugly middle aged Jew can get young girls – ever was it so.

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    Read Richard Feynman’s books. He discovered that he was more successful with women at bars when he treated them badly. Or you could just look at the ads on the Web. Hundreds of thousands of women advertise that they want to be tied up and beaten by a ‘strong’ man.
     
    Gee women who have been abused may be habituated to further exploitation and abuse. In a perverse way it validates their diminished sense of self worth.

    I don't think it takes a Nobel Prize to realize that.

    If there are Hundreds of thousands of attention (or is it abuse) seeking women like that on the web, or Tinder, Ok Cupid.... then it is only a testament to our debased degenerate culture.
    , @Anon
    If women like to be abused, then why are they protesting against Weinstein and other abusers? And yes, it does look like some of the Jewish producer problem is religious hate-revenge against attractive shiksas. This is the result of a constant drumbeat of silly and dangerous anti-white propaganda which exempts Jews by considering them oppressed 'people of color' even when they're in power.

    Everything in your post is claptrap.
    , @AM

    Girls like to be abused. Not all and not in all cases, but in human beings many females long for a ‘strong’ man to control them. This is the unspoken secret – that women like men who take advantage of them. Read Richard Feynman’s books. He discovered that he was more successful with women at bars when he treated them badly.
     
    Women are attracted to strong men to protect themselves and their children. Women who are attracted to long term relationships with abusive ones have less children, in poorer health (it's hard to recover after getting beaten to a pulp), and their chances of reproduction are less assuming they survive their Dad. This maybe why African women aren't too keen on the married state in some sub-cultures. The chances for them and their children are better in looser or even go it alone situations.

    If we insist on some sort of bastardized evolutionary theory for why it's "ok to beat up on the de women folk because they like it", let's at least examine the situation fully. Evolution theory only works to the extent that the offspring survive and then reproduce themselves. It doesn't make any sense, unless you're picking up tips from players in bars who have no intention of having children and probably aren't going to get married.


    Chimpanzees (our closest relatives) behave this way. The female chimps usually get beaten up by the male chimp as part of their mating rituals.

     

    Sure they do. And dolphins have homosexual sex. I saw that on the internet, too.
    , @TelfoedJohn
    Fraud and sexual offences seem disproportionate: https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/huge-leap-in-number-of-jews-behind-bars-1.59435
    , @Dieter Kief
    The part about the Amish in your comment I liked the most - ehh, just kiddin'

    Canadian psychologist Jordan B. Petersen said in one of his videos, that the SM novel Fifty Shades of Grey was the fastetst selling novel ever - and it is being bought mostly by women.

    And he added that the most popular female sex fantasies are: Werwolfe, Vampire, Billionaire, Pirate...
    (Amish don't show up on this list at all - it's even hard to think how they manage to replicate, in this age of universal porn (ooops - I did it again...).

    , @Old Left

    Weinstein didn’t invent the practice of taking advantage of girls who want to play dress up and go on the stage.
     
    Exactly. And what the Jew haters recently turned feminists are missing is that this scandal is a power play by female execs (many of them Jewish!) within Hollywood.
    This moral panic is aimed at men in general. And the outcome will be to empower frigid, ball-busting harpies everywhere.
    , @S. Anonyia
    Women are generally less into sexual kinks than men, including BDSM. Way more men posting ads online asking to be tied up than women.

    Read women's romance novels, There are fantasies about being taken advantage of but it involves sexy men, not old ugly obese men. I doubt of these actresses enjoyed having to deal with Weinstein and his ilk.
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  90. @SimpleSong
    Intelligence and character/prosociality are not the same thing, in fact I think they are pretty much orthogonal. But even a casual observer of humans will quickly pick up that they are both largely hereditary.

    Suppose you had a subculture that was high on the intelligence axis and low on the character axis. What do you suppose that subculture might look like? Can you think of any examples?

    We do need to dial back on the belief that intelligence is the only important hereditary cognitive trait. Particularly in this era of ubiquitous cognitive aids (calculators, spell checkers, the internet, etc.) and rapid dissemination of new knowledge, the success of failure of a society is probably determined more by the prosociality of its inhabitants than average intelligence.

    Which, again, is mostly a matter of nature, not nurture. Therefore a well designed society will push those with prosocial behaviors towards fecundity and those with antisocial behaviors towards barrenness.

    Our society does the opposite, of course.

    Amusingly the trait is even easier to measure then intelligence- it is well encapsulated in clannishness.

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  91. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Hollywood finally turned on the Weinsteins because they know that now has a huge image problem.

    I really like Jennifer Lawrence, especially in Silver Linings Playbook, American Hustle, Joy... even Passengers. She is really one of the rare actresses that connects with her audience and its not just her beauty. She really is a kid from Kentucky. Hell her start was on the "Blue Collar Comedian" Bill Engvall show

    But the rumors of her debasing herself as a 19 year old to land the role in Winter's Bone is deeply disturbing.

    And it is not just the female actresses.

    I think most folks have heard rumors about Tom Cruise and especially John Travolta and what they may have done in the early days of their careers. I even wonder about Brad Pitt.

    Boys even men want to be assured of the 100 percent hetero masculinity of their screen heroes.

    Where are today's John Wayne, Charles Bronson, Steve McQeen, Humphrey Bogart, Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart....???

    It is sad the the only actor today that is reassuredly 100 hetero is Denzel Washington. Hell Hollywood even let him play the initially "homophobic" lawyer in Philadelphia.

    Is that more disturbing to you than her uh, debasing herself just for her own enjoyment? The fappening jpgs don’t lie lol, she’s not exactly wholesome

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    Look Jennifer Lawrence is a major talent and sadly also a troubled woman. I heard all about the "Fappening" pictures and that she has an alcohol problem. She is only 27 and has been in the acting business for a decade. Hopefully she finds her way and does not end up like Lindsay Lohan.

    Blake Lively is another talented actress, but it seems that she has been able to find her way out of the Hollywood rabbit hole that wrecks lots of young women.
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  92. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @MBlanc46
    They’re about to employ a full court press against him. It could get very ugly very soon.

    People speculate on how the American Empire will end. This would be the catalyst. Maybe not a civil war or a match to gasoline, but it will have the same result within years. The globalist puppet masters and their henchman think they can pull off a bloodless coup with finagling and fictions and then things will return to normal and the racket can go on. And Americans will accept this and simply go on. They might or might not. It they do, it will only be for a while as they work directly or indirectly to degrade the established order. Things will never return to how they were. If Mueller, Weismann, et al., are successful, it will be a Pyrrhic victory for them personally, and for the U.S.

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  94. Altai says:

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/blind-item-9-himmmm.html

    Yesterday and last night a studio (___________) was in crisis mode with executives flying in and lawyers summoned. All because this perverted jerk director (____________) and his company (_________) are such a major part of the studio’s project slate that the studio itself may be in jeopardy – especially being taken over by a publicly traded company that requires Congress’ approval.

    Last night during the investigation into the damage done by the director, and how damaged the studio can be, they discovered some bizarre business interests. Seems the director is a major investor-partner in several adult porn websites. The studio and even the director’s managers didn’t know it. One of the porn sites in particular is so disgusting, perverted, and possibly illegal in the USA that the studio is scrambling to cut all ties and remove the director from everything, before the media uncovers this.

    The site, hosted offshore and hidden beneath layers of front companies, is so awful that the analysts refused to explore it – and only finally did so after a lawyer and ex-FBI man at the studio both agreed to monitor the investigation. If the director and his pals see that website as their normal views of sex? Then those abuse allegations are just the beginning of his slide into the gutter. Even a national official (_______________) is scared. He sent a representative of his to meet studio brass all because of his own former association with the director which still reaps financial income for the official. They’re trying to quietly cover up all ties to Russian investors and Arab investors before people start looking deeply at those relationships. Talk was swirling about the official (_______) and the director on a Russian billionaires yacht, with Arabs and lots of young women. Why? There is a video and photos. Not good for the studio and definitely not good for a Trump appointee at the moment.

    Meanwhile the studio is in damage-control mode, and one executive (______________) is rumored to be on the chopping block due to his defense of and friendship with the director. The studio is looking to scapegoat, cut ties, and dress up as a wholesome family company before its new owner (_________) has to go before Congress to get approval for lots of new plans. Many Congresswomen in particular are just waiting to get some re-election coverage by grilling them and forcing them to pledge to change the culture of Hollywood. If anyone thinks attorney Marty Singer can handle all this? They are clueless.

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  95. Flip says:
    @whorefinder

    Too many Jewish men have major issues with pretty women, especially shiksas. They like to defeat them. Some kind of mom issue?
     
    Jews have, on average, much more sexual perversion than non-Jews. People commented on this freely for a very long time, and then Jews decided that they were the normal ones and everyone else was "repressed" and needed to be "liberated" from their repression, and made up some unsupported "psychoanalysis" nonsense to justify why everyone needed to be pegged and have multiple sex partners.

    That sexual "liberation" has made a lot of goyim quite miserable, but nobody in mainstream culture says so, because who controls the megaphone?

    I have a young Jewish female friend who claims that Jewish men are more perverted than Gentiles and with a higher percentage of homosexuality. I wondered to her if that was a result of Ashkenazi inbreeding, and she thought that was a possibility.

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    I wondered to her if that was a result of Ashkenazi inbreeding, and she thought that was a possibility.
     
    Yeah, I have a comment about that in moderation. Inbreeding increases sexual perversion, at least as far as I can see. Gays who successfully go through conversion therapy and marry members of the opposite sex tend to marry people of different races from themselves, and it's probably related to their genes needed massive outbreeding to overcome the programmed perversion.
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  96. Flip says:
    @Thea
    OT

    Donna Brazile just threw Clinton, ugly Debbie and Obama under the bus. Does she know something? I thought Obama was beyond reproach so this seems new.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

    She might get the Seth Rich treatment from the Clintons.

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  97. @27 year old
    Is that more disturbing to you than her uh, debasing herself just for her own enjoyment? The fappening jpgs don't lie lol, she's not exactly wholesome

    Look Jennifer Lawrence is a major talent and sadly also a troubled woman. I heard all about the “Fappening” pictures and that she has an alcohol problem. She is only 27 and has been in the acting business for a decade. Hopefully she finds her way and does not end up like Lindsay Lohan.

    Blake Lively is another talented actress, but it seems that she has been able to find her way out of the Hollywood rabbit hole that wrecks lots of young women.

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    Blake Lively is another talented actress
     
    Really? Name me one good movie she was in.

    The one where she was stranded on an island blew dead dogs and she ain't even that good looking.
    , @whorefinder
    Dang dude get over your crushes. Lawrence is a skeezy ho, full stop. She's literally sending nude pictures of herself with men's sexual juice on her face (likely Weinstein's or Ratner's), with her smiling about it.

    She's not finding her way out of this mess unless she enters a convent or they invent a magic pill to cure her of all the debasement she's done. Just look at the way she acts on public podiums to see a woman near-permanently messed up.

    The only difference between Lawrence and a wall-approaching-female-adult-film-star is that all of Lawrence's filth has been in done in private while her films haven't been porn. And that kind of messed up stays with you your entire life, barring a miracle.

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  98. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @anonymous-antimarxist
    Does anybody remember or even care about the other movies in which the best supporting actress was nominated for the 1993 Oscar???


    Judy Davis – Husbands and Wives as Sally Wainwright
    Joan Plowright – Enchanted April as Mrs. Fisher
    Vanessa Redgrave – Howards End as Ruth Wilcox
    Miranda Richardson – Damage as Ingrid Fleming

    None of these movies were hits or memorable. In fact Damage was a really dark and disturbing if not perverted film by Louis Malle. 3 of the actresses were British and from Royal Shakespearean factory. Judy Davis was nominated for one of Woody Allen's lesser movies. Did Vanessa Redgrave really need another Oscar for not one of her best performances is a boring Merchant/Ivory production?

    In fact what made Marisa Tomei's win so stunning was that she beat the Wienstein/Miramax hype machine that pushed Joan Plowright as the favorite.

    Meanwhile "My Cousin Vinny" was one of the year's biggest hits making more than 5 times its budget. It is also one of the rare Hollywood comedies that is a huge hit that does not insult the Goyim. Being "Woke" to the JQ, I may no longer entirely enjoy "Caddieshack" or "Revenge of the Nerds" the way I did as a kid, but I still love "My Cousin Vinny".

    Miss Mona Lisa Vito is in fact the rare Alt-Right approved "White Sharia" heroine. She wants her man to be successful so that she can settle down and become a mother. Her "My Biological Clock is Ticking" scene is one of the most memorable by any actress in decades.

    My Cousin Vinny Biological Clock
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX15un8nf3o

    And it is not the only great scene by Tomei.

    My Cousin Vinny (5/5) Movie CLIP - Automotive Expert (1992) HD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nGQLQF1b6I

    The defense is wrong
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFdJza0AbeA

    Tomei in fact is one of the rare actresses who created a character that is a immediate cultural reference for generations. And she did it all while being billed under that great thespian Ralph Macchio

    Belichick My Cousin Vinny Reference
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BQveRsxcNw

    The Rich Eisen Show: Marisa Tomei talks Belichick's "My Cousin Vinny" reference

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPQ1eVcoXDw

    The late Fred Gwynne was a great actor, wasn’t he? I used to watch the Munsters regularly as a kid. I would’ve never guessed that Herman Munster was from upper-class Tuxedo Park and educated at the exclusive Groton School and Harvard University. And served in WWII. A different era, when men were men.

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    My Cousin Vinny has a number of really good character actors.

    I always liked the late Lane Smith and he was great as the prosecutor in MCV. Bruce McGill, D-Day from Animal House is also a great character actor.

    But Fred Gwynne really went out on a high note with his last role in MCV.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    He was great with whatsHisName in Car 54 Where are You. I thought that was hilarious as a kid.
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  99. @Pat Boyle
    There is a lot of loony posturing over the Hollywood casting couch scandals of Harvey Weinstein. But certain truths are ignored. Much as I hate to get involved in this dispute, it falls to me to set a couple facts straight.

    Harvey Weinstein is a Jew. This has allowed many of the anti-Semites who lurk hereabouts to reveal themselves. This is a Hollywood scandal and Hollywood is a Jewish company town. If there were a pervert or sexual predator in Hollywood who wasn't Jewish - how likely would that be? There don't seem to be any accusations about the Amish, the Sherpas or the Montagnard Boat People. Finding Jews in Hollywood doesn't prove much.

    It is possible that the Jews are especially vile towards women - that they are a clan of rapists. But I've never heard of that in all the movies that Jews have made about themselves. On these sort of issues my go-to authority is Steve Sailer. So what is it Steve? Are Jews preternaturally obsessed with sex - and act on their obsessions?

    If you look at rape statistics the race you would expect those who are 'bad' with women would be Africans and African Americans. The religion of rapists would be Muslims. Jews just don't show up prominently in the public sex crime statistics.

    I'm not in the movie industry but I have spent a lot of my life involved in Opera. It is not unusual for young women to acquire a role in opera through their sexual charms. I suspect that this sort of thing has gone on in Italian Opera for centuries. There are some parts that almost no one can sing (e.g. The Queen of the Night) and there are others that Mozart wrote such that almost any girl with any kind of voice could handle (e.g. Susana or Cherubino in Le Nozze). How is an impresario to choose among the hundreds of young women who show up at the auditions? You know the answer to that question.

    Weinstein didn't invent the practice of taking advantage of girls who want to play dress up and go on the stage.

    Now for something a little more controversial. Girls like to be abused. Not all and not in all cases, but in human beings many females long for a 'strong' man to control them. This is the unspoken secret - that women like men who take advantage of them. Read Richard Feynman's books. He discovered that he was more successful with women at bars when he treated them badly. Or you could just look at the ads on the Web. Hundreds of thousands of women advertise that they want to be tied up and beaten by a 'strong' man. Contrary to the notions of accepted society, a taste for BDSM is far more common than either homosexuality or transgenderism.

    Females who sexually respond to being abused are probably acting out patterns laid down before humans were human. Chimpanzees (our closest relatives) behave this way. The female chimps usually get beaten up by the male chimp as part of their mating rituals. Not all females get beaten by their male but those that do seem to become more fertile. They have more baby chimps. If you know anything of Darwin you can see where that leads. Females who are beaten, out-breed those who escaped that fate, and come to dominate the gene pool. This does not seem to be the pattern among bonobos - but we descend from chimps not bonobos.

    Most of the girls who have been victimized by Hollywood producers knew exactly what they were getting in to. Those that didn't were possibly not the smartest ones. As Henry Kissinger discovered - power is sexy. A fat ugly middle aged Jew can get young girls - ever was it so.

    Read Richard Feynman’s books. He discovered that he was more successful with women at bars when he treated them badly. Or you could just look at the ads on the Web. Hundreds of thousands of women advertise that they want to be tied up and beaten by a ‘strong’ man.

    Gee women who have been abused may be habituated to further exploitation and abuse. In a perverse way it validates their diminished sense of self worth.

    I don’t think it takes a Nobel Prize to realize that.

    If there are Hundreds of thousands of attention (or is it abuse) seeking women like that on the web, or Tinder, Ok Cupid…. then it is only a testament to our debased degenerate culture.

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    Have you ever actually talked to a woman? Women don't tell their stories that way. You have an elaborate theory of hidden abuse that has left the poor dears scarred for life. There may be some life stories like that somewhere, but you seem to be projecting your own fantasy into an area where you don't like what you see.
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  100. Flip says:
    @Clyde
    Donald Trump is cruising along at 50/50 approval that the polls you are seeing do not indicate. Matters are at a stalemate right now in the US. No advantage to Trump or the forces arrayed against him which (obviously) are not just Democrats. We are in steady state.

    I doubt very many people would switch their previous vote today from Trump to Clinton. I certainly wouldn’t.

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  101. @Steve Sailer
    Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough!

    Obviously, Dame Judy Dench or Vanessa Redgrave would have been better in My Cousin Vinny as the Jersey Shore girl who knows all about American cars.

    People complain when costume drama/Holocaust/otherwise prestigious movies win the Oscars, yet they can’t seem to get over the fact that a woman won an Oscar for a comedy (even though that was in vogue in the era – Kevin Kline and Jack Palance won Best Supporting Oscars for comedies, and no one seemed to mind, although Palance was slandered as drunk by the anti-Tomei fabulists).

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  102. @anonymous-antimarxist
    My question is what actors, female and male, for at least the last 40 years have not been subject to sexual abuse???

    While I largely agree with Kevin Macdonald that much of this sexual abuse by male Jewish Hollywood is in part motivated by contempt and a desire for revenge against the goyim.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2017/10/20/harvey-weinstein-revenge-and-domination-as-jewish-motives/

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2017/10/18/harvey-weinstein-on-jews-and-the-shiksa/

    But what about Jewish and part Jewish actors like Corey Haim, Corey Feldman and Gwyneth Paltrow???

    You would think that there would be a level of tribal solidarity that would give them some degree of protection.

    Or maybe powerful men of all races and ethnicities enjoy promiscuous sex with women (and sometimes men) of all races and ethnicities, and always have, and this theory is just dumb? (When feminists say rape is really about power, most posters here would mock them, and yet suddenly this idea is in vogue when it can be used against the Jews.)

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  103. Olorin says:
    @Neoconned
    More targets for the Femquisition. Men are men. Testosterone makes us act that way. I love that phrase "misconduct" as though catcalling it flirting isn't normal and natural.

    In the age of social media journalism there no longer is any editorial process. Just journalistic anarchy. Libel, rumormill, slander, and gossip house mongering are the rule of the day.

    They already took down one of the most important men in Hollywood. This emboldened them so now every bimbo from here to Timbuktu with a bruised ego wants in on the attention racket. Pat me on the back sisters!

    OMG! I can't believe I had to debase and lower myself when I was younger by sucking off or massaging that old fat Jewish guy w back hair! Ewwwwww!

    Let's destroy him now that a dog pile is forming....

    A former president of the United States with dementia was even snared by the Femquisition. He's in a fuckin wheelchair but hey that doesn't matter.

    People forget sexual harassment isn't a crime but at most a civil or personnel issue. But hearing the Twitterati bitch and moan you wouldn't know that would you?

    More targets for the Femquisition. Men are men. Testosterone makes us act that way.

    Speak for yourself, degenerate.

    OMG! I can’t believe I had to debase and lower myself when I was younger by sucking off or massaging that old fat Jewish guy w back hair! Ewwwwww!

    Non-degenerate men don’t think like this…and do a pretty good job of keeping our daughters from forming character that would allow them to go there When Younger. In fact our daughters would react to such a thing not with “I have to do this” but deployment of molecular separation devices. If they were hellbent on becoming entertainers in the first place, which isn’t likely.

    Non-degenerate men also support women who wake up from their former degeneracy and guide them into better possibilities going forward. Even if we do consider the Current Year to be a tad on the hysterical side.

    Of course that assumes we know how to handle women and their emotions/reactions.

    But I guess virtue signalling about the manliness of abusing the topiary, as well as oneself, is more important than warning younger people from experience about degeneracy. So either Rosie the Regretter is going to have to step to the plate and take back their nights, or we’re going to have to import some brown people to do the cleanup that American men won’t do.

    now that a dog pile is forming….

    TMI about Hollywood.

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    In fact our daughters would react to such a thing not with “I have to do this” but deployment of molecular separation devices. If they were hellbent on becoming entertainers in the first place, which isn’t likely.
     
    This is a daughter properly raised. :)
    , @Neoconned
    Speak for yourself sir. With the utmost respect stay in your little cluster of high trust heaven. Because in MANY OTHER parts of the country at best the women are honest whores with various personality defects. Where I live that's the best I got to work with....

    Most of the other women are a den of vipers and snakes. Con artists, dishonest whores who like to you and whom you cannot trust, backstabbing attention seeking lunatics and mental cases who practice various types of attention fetishes.

    It devolves from there to blatant thieves, skank crackwhores who will do anything with their disease riddled bodies for a hit of whatever stimulant or downer of choice they're using at the moment. Then the mudsharks and golddiggers, etc

    Heartiste calls what you do "white knighting" -- very foolishly thinking you can reform a cheat or a whore or a fuck up with stuff you got from some Walton's episode....

    Dunno what Norman Rockwell Oasis you live in but stay there....trust me sir you are blessed. and

    If I am a degenerate it's because I'm a reactionary to the rot and the filth. An adaptive animal in the jungle....stay in your Oasis of bliss.....but men like me are reactionaries. Trust me, wished I lived in your world. But unlike you I play with what I've been dealt, not what I think should be in some state of nature

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  104. @anonymous
    The common pattern is that all these guys are ugly, physically repulsive types but who put themselves in positions as human toll booths where women (and men and underage youths) had to pay up to pass through. Pretty good positioning on their part. They are nauseating specimens with kinky and exhibitionistic tendencies. Can you imagine the horrid spectacle of seeing the naked body of Weinstein coming out of the shower? A person would have PTSD for the rest of their life after seeing such a thing. All this seems to have the effect of cutting the moral high ground out from underneath all these showbiz types at a time they were all baying at Trump. Trump's luck seems to be kicking in yet again. Fling open all the closets.

    Can you imagine the horrid spectacle of seeing the naked body of Weinstein coming out of the shower? A person would have PTSD for the rest of their life after seeing such a thing.

    In that case the entire population of medical practitioners, nurses, swimming pool attendants, and other health care professionals are irredeemably damaged! No, in reality as any whore will tell you, a body is just a body and fucking for a living is better than many kinds of unskilled work as long as the fuckee has decent personal hygiene and does not get on top of you if obese.

    Now if Weinstein had rotting teeth and a colostomy, that would be another matter.

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  105. Conquerors rape and pillage.

    Dog bites man.

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  106. @Sunbeam
    "We do need to dial back on the belief that intelligence is the only important hereditary cognitive trait."

    This is what I think as well, though I haven't phrased it as well as you have.

    There are two subgroups in the US, that while not stupid, are nevertheless quite successful (even if not outsize Wall Street Mogul successful). The Amish and Mormons.

    The Amish are really interesting in this respect. Their basic secret seems to be not going into debt and avoiding consumer culture.

    Who knew? Anyway they aren't doing it by sending all their kids to MIT and Harvard.

    Yeah in many ways the Amish are pretty incredible. They have a TFR > 6, I believe, and while other subgroups in the US may have TFRs that high they mostly manage it by welfare state parasitism. The Amish do this while earning their own bread, however. They successfully compete in commercial farming, a risky, low margin business, while eschewing much modern technology. I expect if there was a nuclear war they would inherit what was left of the earth.

    Mormons are doing OK too, and not just in the demographics department: I note that Kip Thorne, the most recent physics Nobel laureate (and very deserving) is a Jack Mormon. However I think they are in a lot of danger right now because they don’t realize the secret to their sauce: they keep trying to convert Africans and other rabble to their religion, and they keep trying to earn the approval of the American public at large. If they don’t take a deep breath and back away from the Universalism they’re going to end up like the other Christian faiths.

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    If they don’t take a deep breath and back away from the Universalism they’re going to end up like the other Christian faiths.
     
    At one point, Catholic families were known for breeding like rabbits and insisting that Catholicism belonged to every nation on earth. The word Catholic means "universal" in Greek.

    I know it doesn't look like it in the modern era, but low fertility rates and the concept that morality applies to everyone have no relationship to each other. And nothing in Christianity says: import foreigners on government because "nice". It says go out to all nations.

    Anyway, Mormonism pre-1970 was quite adamant that blackness was curse and no blacks were allowed to be leaders, even though they allowed conversions.

    Mormonism has a very strong family centered culture, on based on respectability. I suspect most people would not be thrilled to be on regular rotation of hosting home worship services, despite admiring the lifestyle.

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  107. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Ian M.

    Jews have, on average, much more sexual perversion than non-Jews. People commented on this freely for a very long time, and then Jews decided that they were the normal ones and everyone else was “repressed” and needed to be “liberated” from their repression, and made up some unsupported “psychoanalysis” nonsense to justify why everyone needed to be pegged and have multiple sex partners.

     

    Are there any stats on this? Jews are certainly heavily implicated in pornography. I also get the sense today that there are a disproportionate number of Jewish homosexuals when compared to other groups. On the other hand, I remember a friend sending me some survey that showed that of all the groups surveyed, Jews had the highest percentage of those who had never partaken in the solitary vice, which surprised me.

    The impression I get is that, say, in fin de siècle western Europe and into the early 20th century, Jews were associated more with heterosexual vice and lechery, while Northwestern European gentiles were more associated with homosexual vice, although in the pagan milieu that had become fashionable at the time, this wasn’t necessarily considered a vice, but something virile and manly.

    For example, Paul Johnson in Modern Times writes that the nudist sunbathing movement that arose in Germany in the early 20th century came to be regarded as having a good kind and bad kind: the 'good' kind of nudism was Aryan and either non-sexual or homosexual in contrast to the bad 'Jewish' type of nudism, which was considered heterosexual and erotic.

    German gentiles like Adolf Brand and Hans Blüher advocated for pederastic relationships as being highly masculine and ideal. They opposed the Jew Magnus Hirschfeld because they regarded his brand of homosexuality as being effeminate.

    I get a similar sense about England during that same time period, but to a lesser degree.
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  108. res says:
    @Thea
    OT

    Donna Brazile just threw Clinton, ugly Debbie and Obama under the bus. Does she know something? I thought Obama was beyond reproach so this seems new.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

    Thanks. It will be interesting to see the fallout. I am surprised there are no comments on that article yet. I wonder how strictly they will be moderating.

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  109. @Sunbeam
    "We do need to dial back on the belief that intelligence is the only important hereditary cognitive trait."

    This is what I think as well, though I haven't phrased it as well as you have.

    There are two subgroups in the US, that while not stupid, are nevertheless quite successful (even if not outsize Wall Street Mogul successful). The Amish and Mormons.

    The Amish are really interesting in this respect. Their basic secret seems to be not going into debt and avoiding consumer culture.

    Who knew? Anyway they aren't doing it by sending all their kids to MIT and Harvard.

    I think for hereditary cognitive traits I would make the x, y, z axes intelligence, creativity, and prosociality. Intelligence is the only one of these that can be quickly and (fairly) accurately measured. If you put a bodycam on a person and carefully logged their daily interactions for several years, you could probably put some number on pro- or antisociality but obviously that’s not really practical. Measuring true creativity is even tougher and philosophically one might ask if it even exists outside the act of creating (to paraphrase Forrest Gump, creativity is as creativity does.)

    But just because something is hard to quantify doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

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  110. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Does anybody remember or even care about the other movies in which the best supporting actress was nominated for the 1993 Oscar???


    Judy Davis – Husbands and Wives as Sally Wainwright
    Joan Plowright – Enchanted April as Mrs. Fisher
    Vanessa Redgrave – Howards End as Ruth Wilcox
    Miranda Richardson – Damage as Ingrid Fleming

    None of these movies were hits or memorable. In fact Damage was a really dark and disturbing if not perverted film by Louis Malle. 3 of the actresses were British and from Royal Shakespearean factory. Judy Davis was nominated for one of Woody Allen's lesser movies. Did Vanessa Redgrave really need another Oscar for not one of her best performances is a boring Merchant/Ivory production?

    In fact what made Marisa Tomei's win so stunning was that she beat the Wienstein/Miramax hype machine that pushed Joan Plowright as the favorite.

    Meanwhile "My Cousin Vinny" was one of the year's biggest hits making more than 5 times its budget. It is also one of the rare Hollywood comedies that is a huge hit that does not insult the Goyim. Being "Woke" to the JQ, I may no longer entirely enjoy "Caddieshack" or "Revenge of the Nerds" the way I did as a kid, but I still love "My Cousin Vinny".

    Miss Mona Lisa Vito is in fact the rare Alt-Right approved "White Sharia" heroine. She wants her man to be successful so that she can settle down and become a mother. Her "My Biological Clock is Ticking" scene is one of the most memorable by any actress in decades.

    My Cousin Vinny Biological Clock
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX15un8nf3o

    And it is not the only great scene by Tomei.

    My Cousin Vinny (5/5) Movie CLIP - Automotive Expert (1992) HD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nGQLQF1b6I

    The defense is wrong
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFdJza0AbeA

    Tomei in fact is one of the rare actresses who created a character that is a immediate cultural reference for generations. And she did it all while being billed under that great thespian Ralph Macchio

    Belichick My Cousin Vinny Reference
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BQveRsxcNw

    The Rich Eisen Show: Marisa Tomei talks Belichick's "My Cousin Vinny" reference

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPQ1eVcoXDw

    Yeah, she’s great in it. Me and a friend go on all day quoting MCV. Particularly this exchange.

    “But you didn’t read the article”

    “No”

    “Too bad”

    Why?”

    “Cause he’s DEAD”

    This can be used in a number of ways. Any use of “too bad” requires a reference to this scene, as does any reference to someone dying unexpectedly. And if you didn’t read something you should have….well you get the idea.

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  111. res says:
    @27 year old

    possible that 100% of studios operated on the “pay to play” system but I think in the current witch hunting atmosphere we would hear about it if that was true. Instead, after the initial wave of serious abusers like Harvey, they are now going after guys who once upon a time pinched a girl’s behind or made a dirty joke. If there was a deep vein to be mined they wouldn’t be going after the slim pickin’s so soon.
     
    1. "Lay to play"

    2. If the women (and men) are happy with the deal they got, which logic says most of them are, then what would be the point of coming forward?

    3. To me it looks like a deep vein, hoping they can sacrifice a few lesser figures and avoid blowing the lid off the whole thing. Payoffs and other arrangements being made. Not everybody has the cash or clout to protect himself. And then random targets of opportunity are getting taken down

    2. If the women (and men) are happy with the deal they got, which logic says most of them are, then what would be the point of coming forward?

    A few.

    - Simple resentment. Especially if the deal turned out worse than they expected going in.
    - Want to eat their cake and have it too.
    - Given how they so effortlessly became successful once given the opportunity it should not have been necessary to do that.
    - Wanting to recast the narrative as them being exploited rather than them being a (pick a word).

    It does not really work to think about this as a simple deal. There are many stages (and I am probably missing some).
    - Put out or get out.
    - Have put out but benefits not granted yet. (how many of the casting couch group don’t get the purported benefits in the end?)
    - Initial success but still vulnerable to being torn down or just not adequately supported going forward.
    - Successful enough that they don’t need support.
    - Successful enough that they can get work, etc. after active opposition.

    How much of the payoff to the Weinstein-types is later being able to say/remember what they did with this beautiful, successful, and much loved figure? I think the humiliation aspect is hard for a normal person to really understand.

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  112. @Cool McCool

    Obviously, Dame Judy Dench or Vanessa Redgrave would have been better in My Cousin Vinny as the Jersey Shore girl who knows all about American cars.
     
    Doesn't compute, since those women aren't in the age bracket appropriate for the role, but a ton of other better known actresses were. As far as her other achievements at the time, she's probably the only actress who's Oscar win merited an entry regarding it's legitimacy on Snopes:

    https://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/tomei.asp

    Her first significant role was with Harvey's company. That said, she is speaking up on her twitter feed, and that's a good sign.

    First off, Steve was using…sarcasm. (Just like Doug Piranha.) Dame Judi Dench in the Marisa Tomei role in My Cousin Vinny? C’mon, that’s obviously a joke.

    Second, as Steve and others have aptly pointed out, she was really good in that movie. You can easily imagine the casting session in which she read the part, and the director, producer and casting director all looked at one another and said sotto voce, “That’s it. We have a winner.”

    Third, she seems like the type of gal who, if a Harvey Weinstein or similar poobah were to come on to her the way he’s been accused of doing onto others, would kick the guy in the balls. Hard. And in ten-inch heels.

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  113. Bugg says:
    @Anonymous
    Julia Roberts? I've never understood her popularity. I first saw her in Mystic Pizza, and I thought that she was by far the most annoying character in the movie. I dislike her general "sassy" attitude and her big, toothy smile.

    As long as we’re talking abut The Tribe, she is the epitome of an Manhattan/Beverly Hills ideal of beauty-tall, narrow face, big white teeth, prominent nose, skeletal size zero build with no boobs, long dark hair, and a never shut the fuck up 24/7 attitude telling you she is the smartest person in the room, no matter the reality that she simply will not be quiet.She is the what Jewish women aspire to be. Not sure how she was cast in movies otherwise. And cast by you know who.

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  114. Truth says:
    @whorefinder
    Ratner and McG are in the same category: crap directors who got their start making music videos and then helmed one studio-assembly-line hit movie and somehow that made them household names, even though they suck.

    They both suck, but I somehow hate McG more, simply because he's a big enough prick to have kept the retarded pseudonym of "McG' instead of acting like a grownup and using his real name. Total ass.

    They both suck, but I somehow hate McG more, simply because he’s a big enough prick to have kept the retarded pseudonym of “McG’ instead of acting like a grownup and using his real name. Total ass.

    Well that’s very interesting, whorefinder.

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    rofl. We Wuz Kangz! logic
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  115. El Dato says:
    @Lurker
    Marisa Tomei? Noooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The thought of that clambering all over such an angel is too depressing.

    NO FLESH SHALL BE SPARED!

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  116. Ian M. says:
    @Titus
    If you ask any Ashkenazi, they will tell you emphatically that they are ethnically not white.

    My experience has been the exact opposite.

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  117. El Dato says:

    This brings to mind the completely meta scene in Mulholland Drive where the acting merges with reality and back (or forwards)?

    That film blows mind even if it was assembled from footage found on Lynch’s cutting floor.

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  118. @Ali Choudhury
    It is a bit more fun to think of Hollywood A-listers who aren't likely to be accused of sexual harassment by either men or women.

    It is a bit more fun to think of Hollywood A-listers who aren’t likely to be accused of sexual harassment by either men or women.

    Well, I would like to nominate Mitzi Gaynor who came from next to nowhere to win the plum movie role of Nellie Forbush in South Pacific and then retired from movie acting soon afterwards. Obviously she did a fine audition as a naive young woman from Litte Rock, AK who falls in love with a middle aged man. She was known for having great legs, too, as well as the wavy frame of a dame.

    I would also like to nominate Audrey Hepburn who snatched the coveted musical movie role of Eliza Doolittle from fellow Brit Julie Andrews despite the minor handicap of not actually being able to sing. My Fair Lady still won the Best Picture Oscar.

    And finally I would like to nominate Julie Andrews as the greatest Oscar winner never to sleep with a producer, oh, wait a minute… reader, she married him.

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    Well, I would like to nominate Mitzi Gaynor who came from next to nowhere to win the plum movie role of Nellie Forbush in South Pacific and then retired from movie acting soon afterwards. Obviously she did a fine audition as a naive young woman from Litte Rock, AK who falls in love with a middle aged man. She was known for having great legs, too, as well as the wavy frame of a dame.

    I would also like to nominate Audrey Hepburn who snatched the coveted musical movie role of Eliza Doolittle from fellow Brit Julie Andrews despite the minor handicap of not actually being able to sing. My Fair Lady still won the Best Picture Oscar.

    And finally I would like to nominate Julie Andrews as the greatest Oscar winner never to sleep with a producer, oh, wait a minute… reader, she married him.
     
    Good eye! Also, let's not forget those who bent over again and again, who don't care what you think. Marilyn Monroe is well documented, as well as Sharon Stone. Heather Graham has quite the track record, ironically featured in Steve Martin's "Bowfinger," doing what she allegedly does best.

    Sidenote: ever notice Steve casts women with fantastic breasts, then has his character fondle them? Heather Graham, that horse-faced girl in LA Story, and Bernadette Peters... am I missing anyone? Kinda weird, isn't it? Like Woody Allen casting barely legals as romantic leads. I notice things sometimes. Speaking of Woody... Harvey Weinstein Mira Sorvino.. hmmm.

    One last note to Steve... sometimes an early oscar winning gal drops out of the repetitive success loop because doing what she had to do works... on her–or him. At night. When she's/he's alone in bed, crying. They just don't have the belly for a career in the fast track. They thought they did, but they discover they were wrong. Their parents ultimately did too good a job, I guess.

    Ironically, you have to pick wisely when you aim to have sex with someone to further your career, and don't do it with too many different partners of wildly different powers to help you, or you get left on the side of the road as overused goods, Sarah Silverman. Just kidding. Sarah would never do that.
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  119. It is a bit more fun to think of Hollywood A-listers who aren’t likely to be accused of sexual harassment by either men or women.

    Well, I would like to nominate Mitzi Gaynor who came from nowhere to win the plum movie role of Nellie Forbush in South Pacific and then retired from acting soon afterwards. Obviously she did a fine audition as a naive young woman from Litte Rock, AK who falls in love with a middle aged man. She was known for having great legs, too.

    I would also like to nominate Audrey Hepburn who snatched the coveted musical movie role of Eliza Doolittle from fellow Brit Julie Andrews despite the minor handicap of not actually being able to sing. My Fair Lady still won the Best Picture Oscar.

    And finally I would like to nominate Julie Andrews as the greatest Oscar winner never to sleep with a producer, oh, wait a minute… reader, she married him.

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  121. AM says:
    @Jack D

    What’s more, their movies suck, even the “brainy” ones.
     
    Compared to what? There's no accounting for taste but Hollywood movies are one of the few remaining export worthy products made in the USA. Almost no one overseas has wanted to buy an American car for 40 years now but Hollywood is still the gold standard in entertainment all over the globe.

    It's possible that 100% of studios operated on the "pay to play" system but I think in the current witch hunting atmosphere we would hear about it if that was true. Instead, after the initial wave of serious abusers like Harvey, they are now going after guys who once upon a time pinched a girl's behind or made a dirty joke. If there was a deep vein to be mined they wouldn't be going after the slim pickin's so soon.

    And it's not true that the actors who played along willingly are in no position to squawk now. In fact they are in a perfect position to do so - all they have to do is pull out their victim cards and say that they were coerced - even as they were saying yes,yes,yes in their hearts they meant no,no, no. No one will dispute them in the current atmosphere. A number of Harvey's "victims" have already said this and no one has thought less of them for it. If they were later seen socializing with Harvey, continued to date Harvey, etc. this was all the result of PTSD. How dare you blame the victim! Every time the Japanese suggest that some of the Korean "comfort women" might have been professional prostitutes to begin with, the Koreans hold another demonstration - no the comfort women were all 100% pure innocent virgins kidnapped by the evil Japs and anyone who suggests otherwise is a monster. Morality plays are always black & white - no shades of grey allowed.

    Compared to what?

    Hollywood’s Golden Era. My kid’s “My Little Pony” series. Any YouTube channel at random. Take your pick. Almost anything is better than the drek their producing.

    Almost no one overseas has wanted to buy an American car for 40 years now but Hollywood is still the gold standard in entertainment all over the globe.

    If by that you mean, China, I think I safely not worry about their gold standard.

    Morality plays are always black & white – no shades of grey allowed.

    Because in real life, most morality is black and white. People just don’t like that, thus the need for a gray all the time. It’s possible in situation where two people are conflict, both of them are wrong. That seems to be the most realistic concept – all black hats duking it out over something they should completely not want.

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  122. Jack D says:
    @Sunbeam
    "If there’s no such thing as nurture why would it matter what crapola Hollywood produces because it wouldn’t affect anything?"

    If you are a believer in "Strong HBD" or something to that effect, it doesn't. Never mind your lying eyes.

    One thing HBD has taught me, at least what I take away from it, is that the conventional wisdom of circa 1900 may have been more accurate than the current prevailing one.

    But I've been told things like if you run with a bad crowd, you'll get in trouble and come to no good.

    And you know? The old people that told me things like that turned out to be right in the long run.

    But then HBD tells me you can do something like raise a kid in a barrel, and he can be decasked at the age of 18 and promptly win the Fields Medal or become an Olympic sprint champion. Because genes you know, if he has the right ones.

    Or if everyone in your neighborhood drinks like a fish, does smack, smokes weed, and lives outside the law, you never will if your genes are right.

    “Strong HBD” is a straw man. Everyone with any sense from ancient times until the present understood that man is a product of nature AND nurture. For lack of a better number, 50/50 is a good working estimate. The problem with the current year conventional wisdom is that they think that it is 100% nurture, 0% nature and if you say it’s even 1% nature your a Nazi. That’s even crazier than 0/100 but we don’t have to pick either extreme.

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    “Strong HBD” is a straw man. Everyone with any sense from ancient times until the present understood that man is a product of nature AND nurture. For lack of a better number, 50/50 is a good working estimate. The problem with the current year conventional wisdom is that they think that it is 100% nurture, 0% nature and if you say it’s even 1% nature your a Nazi. That’s even crazier than 0/100 but we don’t have to pick either extreme.

     

    I'm not sure what to do here. I agree with 100% and this passage is worth the repeating. :)
    , @Dissident

    The problem with the current year conventional wisdom is that they think that it is 100% nurture, 0% nature and if you say it’s even 1% nature your a Nazi.
     
    They don't say that when it comes to sexual orientation, though, do they? Much the complete opposite, in fact, no?

    The PC/Cult-Marx/SJW/Respectable orthodoxy insists not only that homosexuality is always, without exception innate but also that it is always and without exception immutable. And that anyone who challenges such doctrinal assertions is, of course, a hateful, "homophobic", ignorant bigot. (To the point of criminalizing any form of therapy that attempts to steer an individual's sexual orientation away from the same sex and toward the opposite sex.)[1]

    But the contradiction does not even end there. For the very same "experts", arbiters and adjudicators then turn around and declare that one's sex, i.e., whether one is male or female, is anything but immutable.

    Returning to the matter of sexual orientation: Even if both of the aforementioned doctrinal claims concerning sexual orientation, i.e., innateness and immutability, were correct, that would still leave the matter of voluntary behavior. And here, as well, the authorities-in-question/ usual suspects contradict themselves and try to have it both ways, as I will proceed to demonstrate.

    First, orientation, i.e., feelings; attraction; desire is almost completely conflated with behavior. Then, the specific act of anal penetration (i.e., buggery) is conflated with male homosexuality, per se to the point that the terms "gay sex" or even just "sex", when used without qualification in a male homosexual context, are simply understood to mean the specific act of anal penetration.

    What happens, however, when someone dares to express objection to said act or even merely to its whitewashing and normalization?
    (Whether on objective grounds, such as to point-out the less-than-wholesome anatomical, physiological, hygienic (GRAPHIC CONTENT) and public health realities of said act, the massive costs to the public that result from it, or on more subjective grounds, such as a personal revulsion to the act.)

    A typical response from "Gay" proponents is to point-out that anal penetration is neither an exclusively nor universally homosexual practice; that not all "Gay" men engage in it and "plenty" of hetereosexuals do.

    Many of these same very same propagandists, however, will then turn around and insist that only anal penetration can be considered true, full-fledged "Gay sex". What about the not-insignificant number of self-avowed homosexual men who are less-than-comfortable with anal penetration or even eschew it entirely, you ask? They are simply "suffering from internalized homophobia" and "bringing homophobic baggage with them". Self-avowed homosexual men who dare to emphatically reject and speak against the anal penetration and its centrality in Gay culture are villifed, mocked and denounced as self-loathing traitors.

    Dissident homosexual blogger Throbert McGee writes,


    Gay male culture TEACHES men that they should diligently practice and practice and practice until they start to enjoy the sensation of being anally penetrated -- and believe you me, there's quite a substantial learning curve involved! And then the culture encourages them to think that this is somehow encoded in their genes.
     
    [1] Cases that appear to completely contradict said claim of absolute immutability include, but are not limited-to, that of the wife of the current Mayor of New York City and, according to our host at least, that of John Maynard Keynes. The "experts", arbiters, adjudicators and enforcers in-question, however, apparently feel themselves above any need to explain such apparently glaring contradictions to their sacred orthodoxy.
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  123. @Steve Sailer
    I don't understand why everybody keeps going back to Marisa Tomei's 1992 Best Supporting Actress Oscar in My Cousin Vinny as a mistake.

    First, she's great in My Cousin Vinny.

    Second, she's earned two more Oscar nominations since, including for playing a stripper in 2008 in The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke.

    Third, she's almost impervious to aging. She is working steadily in giant budget movies in her 50s. They recently wrote her into the Marvel movies as Spider-Man's suddenly-sexy Aunt May to flirt with Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark. They have a lot of chemistry together. I'm sure she is planning on graduating from sexy aunt to sexy grandma to sexy great-grandma roles.

    Fourth, I can think of other young actresses who won Oscars in her era who haven't had her career.

    I don’t understand why everybody keeps going back to Marisa Tomei’s 1992 Best Supporting Actress Oscar in My Cousin Vinny as a mistake.

    First, she’s great in My Cousin Vinny.

    Second, she’s earned two more Oscar nominations since, including for playing a stripper in 2008 in The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke.

    Third, she’s almost impervious to aging. She is working steadily in giant budget movies in her 50s. They recently wrote her into the Marvel movies as Spider-Man’s suddenly-sexy Aunt May to flirt with Robert Downey Jr.’s Tony Stark. They have a lot of chemistry together. I’m sure she is planning on graduating from sexy aunt to sexy grandma to sexy great-grandma roles.

    Fourth, I can think of other young actresses who won Oscars in her era who haven’t had her career.

    First, with absolutely no doubt, Judy Davis could play Marisa Tomei’s role better than Marisa Tomei played that role, and Judy Davis’ complex role in Woody’s movie was out of Ms. Tomei’s ability to comprehend. Tomei is just as dumb as she seems. Go to her twitter page. She posts retweets almost exclusively, and parrots SJW silliness. She hasn’t a thought of her own. Never has. Never will.

    Second, being able to pick your shots, which winning an Oscar, or having sex with a person in power, allows an actress and her advisors to do, helps loads in further fast-tracking a career. Also, as any major actress will tell you, showing your tits is a prerequisite for an actress’ career longevity, so getting that out of the way as soon as she could might have been a goal of hers. Ms. Tomei also has a history of “dating” people who could help her. Not the other way around. She was very career-driven, and single-minded from early on.

    Third, I don’t know if you’ve seen her in person, but she’s an odd looking duck in real life. She’s very small, petite, as if her body stopped developing when she hit 13. To me, she looks slightly deformed. She’s just very weird lookin, in that she has the body of a barely post-pubescent teen, and that helps more than any plastic surgery regimen alone, and some would say it added to her attraction to people who could help her. In Hollywood, looking barely post-pubescent while being legal is literally awesome.

    As a sidenote to one of the posters who wondered why pop-bitch Julia Roberts got plumb roles so fast… that’s up for conjecture, but another big plus in hollywood is if your lips closely resemble an engorged vagina. Kim Basinger did very well by hers. She won an Oscar, even though her acting chops were remedial on a good day.

    In any case, I’ve personally known well-known actresses, and the things they had to do as a rule to get where they wanted is comical/heart-breaking. One of the bigger “feminist/intellectual” voices amongst actresses whom I’ve known, got on all fours to service a person who absolutely repulsed her, again and again over a period of time, to secure the movie roles she couldn’t have secured without his direct intervention. Her performance was adequate, but he was responsible for her career.

    Nobody was ever the wiser, aside from her closest friends-with big mouths who gave me the play-by-play. If I told you who it was, you would be aghast.

    And finally, just because you have acting ability, doesn’t mean you didn’t serve numerous penis’ or vagina’s in power (yep, there’s a casting couch run by lesbians and straight women in power also) to leapfrog past a ton of unfortunate acting roles to get where you want to go 10 years earlier.

    The acting profession is very, very difficult, for men and women. If you think compromising your morals to service a penis or vagina when you’re a woman is soul-sucking, try doing it as a straight man.

    I don’t know anything directly about Marisa Tomei’s career exploits. For all I know, she’s the flower of moral rectitude, as her devoted fan Steve hopes. I’m just conjecturing, and I could be dead wrong. Chances are very high that I don’t know what I’m talking about at all. I’m crazy, don’t listen to me. Maybe I’m drunk right now.

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  124. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Pat Boyle
    There is a lot of loony posturing over the Hollywood casting couch scandals of Harvey Weinstein. But certain truths are ignored. Much as I hate to get involved in this dispute, it falls to me to set a couple facts straight.

    Harvey Weinstein is a Jew. This has allowed many of the anti-Semites who lurk hereabouts to reveal themselves. This is a Hollywood scandal and Hollywood is a Jewish company town. If there were a pervert or sexual predator in Hollywood who wasn't Jewish - how likely would that be? There don't seem to be any accusations about the Amish, the Sherpas or the Montagnard Boat People. Finding Jews in Hollywood doesn't prove much.

    It is possible that the Jews are especially vile towards women - that they are a clan of rapists. But I've never heard of that in all the movies that Jews have made about themselves. On these sort of issues my go-to authority is Steve Sailer. So what is it Steve? Are Jews preternaturally obsessed with sex - and act on their obsessions?

    If you look at rape statistics the race you would expect those who are 'bad' with women would be Africans and African Americans. The religion of rapists would be Muslims. Jews just don't show up prominently in the public sex crime statistics.

    I'm not in the movie industry but I have spent a lot of my life involved in Opera. It is not unusual for young women to acquire a role in opera through their sexual charms. I suspect that this sort of thing has gone on in Italian Opera for centuries. There are some parts that almost no one can sing (e.g. The Queen of the Night) and there are others that Mozart wrote such that almost any girl with any kind of voice could handle (e.g. Susana or Cherubino in Le Nozze). How is an impresario to choose among the hundreds of young women who show up at the auditions? You know the answer to that question.

    Weinstein didn't invent the practice of taking advantage of girls who want to play dress up and go on the stage.

    Now for something a little more controversial. Girls like to be abused. Not all and not in all cases, but in human beings many females long for a 'strong' man to control them. This is the unspoken secret - that women like men who take advantage of them. Read Richard Feynman's books. He discovered that he was more successful with women at bars when he treated them badly. Or you could just look at the ads on the Web. Hundreds of thousands of women advertise that they want to be tied up and beaten by a 'strong' man. Contrary to the notions of accepted society, a taste for BDSM is far more common than either homosexuality or transgenderism.

    Females who sexually respond to being abused are probably acting out patterns laid down before humans were human. Chimpanzees (our closest relatives) behave this way. The female chimps usually get beaten up by the male chimp as part of their mating rituals. Not all females get beaten by their male but those that do seem to become more fertile. They have more baby chimps. If you know anything of Darwin you can see where that leads. Females who are beaten, out-breed those who escaped that fate, and come to dominate the gene pool. This does not seem to be the pattern among bonobos - but we descend from chimps not bonobos.

    Most of the girls who have been victimized by Hollywood producers knew exactly what they were getting in to. Those that didn't were possibly not the smartest ones. As Henry Kissinger discovered - power is sexy. A fat ugly middle aged Jew can get young girls - ever was it so.

    If women like to be abused, then why are they protesting against Weinstein and other abusers? And yes, it does look like some of the Jewish producer problem is religious hate-revenge against attractive shiksas. This is the result of a constant drumbeat of silly and dangerous anti-white propaganda which exempts Jews by considering them oppressed ‘people of color’ even when they’re in power.

    Everything in your post is claptrap.

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    This is the result of a constant drumbeat of silly and dangerous anti-white propaganda which exempts Jews by considering them oppressed ‘people of color’ even when they’re in power.
     
    And it helps that jews are the ones who started banging that drum.
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  125. AM says:
    @Pat Boyle
    There is a lot of loony posturing over the Hollywood casting couch scandals of Harvey Weinstein. But certain truths are ignored. Much as I hate to get involved in this dispute, it falls to me to set a couple facts straight.

    Harvey Weinstein is a Jew. This has allowed many of the anti-Semites who lurk hereabouts to reveal themselves. This is a Hollywood scandal and Hollywood is a Jewish company town. If there were a pervert or sexual predator in Hollywood who wasn't Jewish - how likely would that be? There don't seem to be any accusations about the Amish, the Sherpas or the Montagnard Boat People. Finding Jews in Hollywood doesn't prove much.

    It is possible that the Jews are especially vile towards women - that they are a clan of rapists. But I've never heard of that in all the movies that Jews have made about themselves. On these sort of issues my go-to authority is Steve Sailer. So what is it Steve? Are Jews preternaturally obsessed with sex - and act on their obsessions?

    If you look at rape statistics the race you would expect those who are 'bad' with women would be Africans and African Americans. The religion of rapists would be Muslims. Jews just don't show up prominently in the public sex crime statistics.

    I'm not in the movie industry but I have spent a lot of my life involved in Opera. It is not unusual for young women to acquire a role in opera through their sexual charms. I suspect that this sort of thing has gone on in Italian Opera for centuries. There are some parts that almost no one can sing (e.g. The Queen of the Night) and there are others that Mozart wrote such that almost any girl with any kind of voice could handle (e.g. Susana or Cherubino in Le Nozze). How is an impresario to choose among the hundreds of young women who show up at the auditions? You know the answer to that question.

    Weinstein didn't invent the practice of taking advantage of girls who want to play dress up and go on the stage.

    Now for something a little more controversial. Girls like to be abused. Not all and not in all cases, but in human beings many females long for a 'strong' man to control them. This is the unspoken secret - that women like men who take advantage of them. Read Richard Feynman's books. He discovered that he was more successful with women at bars when he treated them badly. Or you could just look at the ads on the Web. Hundreds of thousands of women advertise that they want to be tied up and beaten by a 'strong' man. Contrary to the notions of accepted society, a taste for BDSM is far more common than either homosexuality or transgenderism.

    Females who sexually respond to being abused are probably acting out patterns laid down before humans were human. Chimpanzees (our closest relatives) behave this way. The female chimps usually get beaten up by the male chimp as part of their mating rituals. Not all females get beaten by their male but those that do seem to become more fertile. They have more baby chimps. If you know anything of Darwin you can see where that leads. Females who are beaten, out-breed those who escaped that fate, and come to dominate the gene pool. This does not seem to be the pattern among bonobos - but we descend from chimps not bonobos.

    Most of the girls who have been victimized by Hollywood producers knew exactly what they were getting in to. Those that didn't were possibly not the smartest ones. As Henry Kissinger discovered - power is sexy. A fat ugly middle aged Jew can get young girls - ever was it so.

    Girls like to be abused. Not all and not in all cases, but in human beings many females long for a ‘strong’ man to control them. This is the unspoken secret – that women like men who take advantage of them. Read Richard Feynman’s books. He discovered that he was more successful with women at bars when he treated them badly.

    Women are attracted to strong men to protect themselves and their children. Women who are attracted to long term relationships with abusive ones have less children, in poorer health (it’s hard to recover after getting beaten to a pulp), and their chances of reproduction are less assuming they survive their Dad. This maybe why African women aren’t too keen on the married state in some sub-cultures. The chances for them and their children are better in looser or even go it alone situations.

    If we insist on some sort of bastardized evolutionary theory for why it’s “ok to beat up on the de women folk because they like it”, let’s at least examine the situation fully. Evolution theory only works to the extent that the offspring survive and then reproduce themselves. It doesn’t make any sense, unless you’re picking up tips from players in bars who have no intention of having children and probably aren’t going to get married.

    Chimpanzees (our closest relatives) behave this way. The female chimps usually get beaten up by the male chimp as part of their mating rituals.

    Sure they do. And dolphins have homosexual sex. I saw that on the internet, too.

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    Actually it is more an observation than a theory. Chimp males do beat up their females and those so beaten do have more progeny. I thought that was so well known I didn't bother to list a reference. When I looked it up I found not quiet three million references in two thirds of a second. It is not an obscure factoid.

    You don't seem to be comfortable with zoological findings.
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  126. AM says:
    @Jack D
    "Strong HBD" is a straw man. Everyone with any sense from ancient times until the present understood that man is a product of nature AND nurture. For lack of a better number, 50/50 is a good working estimate. The problem with the current year conventional wisdom is that they think that it is 100% nurture, 0% nature and if you say it's even 1% nature your a Nazi. That's even crazier than 0/100 but we don't have to pick either extreme.

    “Strong HBD” is a straw man. Everyone with any sense from ancient times until the present understood that man is a product of nature AND nurture. For lack of a better number, 50/50 is a good working estimate. The problem with the current year conventional wisdom is that they think that it is 100% nurture, 0% nature and if you say it’s even 1% nature your a Nazi. That’s even crazier than 0/100 but we don’t have to pick either extreme.

    I’m not sure what to do here. I agree with 100% and this passage is worth the repeating. :)

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  127. MarcB. says:
    @Cool McCool
    And now Dustin Hoffman!

    The 800 pound gorilla in the room are the men and women who actually partook in surrendering the pink for a plumb role. You might be able to identify them by their deafening silence about now.

    To be absolutely fair, I strongly doubt Harvey’s boldness was all self-generated. Quite a few girls took him up on his offer, and a few benefitted tremendously for it.

    To get on the right track for speculation, think of the guys and gals who seemed to come out of nowhere, and get plumb roles, featured, and especially leading. To make picking easier, who won an Oscar that left you scratching your head? Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough! Cough-dufus-jennifer-cough—lawrence-sniff! Whew! I think I’m allergic to something.

    Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other's "P for Play" marketing plans? Should these "play by the secret rules" kids be urged to "come out" or be outed? Do they get a "get out of National Shame free" card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we'll always be sprouting more Harvey's.

    “The 800 pound gorilla in the room are the men and women who actually partook in surrendering the pink for a plumb role. You might be able to identify them by their deafening silence about now”.

    Int the wake of the Cosby Scandal, Bill’s high-powered entertainment industry enablers and pimps were glossed over, and the industry bosses without skeletons of their own are largely getting a pass this time around as well. My wife were discussing which of the Miramax girls developed powerhouse careers in the 1990′s-2010′s and are now conspicuously silent. The curious one’s will be those with sustained movie and TV careers in the absence of big box office/ratings or critical praise. A trip down IMDB lane could shed some light on this.

    BTW, I’ve wondered for years why Natasha Henstridge’s career stalled despite being among the hottest actresses of her generation. Her verbal acumen and demeanor belied a girl raised by a biker in an Alberta trailer park, although the favors she admitted to providing to Brett Ratner happen to fit that stereotype. I suspect she was black-balled by Ratner after things got awkward.

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    BTW, I’ve wondered for years why Natasha Henstridge’s career stalled despite being among the hottest actresses of her generation.

    Genetic bad luck. some of them have a short window of being able to pass for chicks.

    http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/embed/public/2017/11/01/natasha-henstridge.jpg
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  128. Jack D says:
    @Titus
    If you ask any Ashkenazi, they will tell you emphatically that they are ethnically not white.

    You’re sure about that now? All it would take is one and you’d be wrong.

    Many people who can get away with it are whatever it is most profitable to be at the moment. Anatole Broyard was a not white who said he was white because that was the best thing to be in his time. Rachel Dolezal is a white who says she is not white because that is the current thing to be in the current year. Elizabeth Warren too. So it’s not surprising that some Jews will pick not-white. Lots of non-Jews never accepted Jews on the white team to begin with, so they shouldn’t be upset.

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  129. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Another Canadian
    A Sr. VP for news at NPR just quit following allegations of sexual harassment from several women.

    I’m beginning to wonder if this backlash is coming from women who put up with this crap from their own leftist men because they expected the second coming under Obama, and that a Hillary win would be the cherry on top. Part of the reason why Hillary is so angry is that she put up with Bill’s infidelities in exchange for a shot at the presidency, and she still lost.

    Now that these women didn’t get it, they’re lashing out at their own side in a large-scale purge targeting the hypocrites, and these attacks look coordinated. I bet this mirrors what’s going to happen in the Democratic primary in the next election. It’s going to be women-only candidates in the primaries and any leftist candidate with a history of sexual abuse is going to be outed. Leftist women are getting tired of being at the back of the bus behind leftist men be they Jews, blacks, or Hispanics.

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  130. @Cool McCool
    And now Dustin Hoffman!

    The 800 pound gorilla in the room are the men and women who actually partook in surrendering the pink for a plumb role. You might be able to identify them by their deafening silence about now.

    To be absolutely fair, I strongly doubt Harvey’s boldness was all self-generated. Quite a few girls took him up on his offer, and a few benefitted tremendously for it.

    To get on the right track for speculation, think of the guys and gals who seemed to come out of nowhere, and get plumb roles, featured, and especially leading. To make picking easier, who won an Oscar that left you scratching your head? Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough! Cough-dufus-jennifer-cough—lawrence-sniff! Whew! I think I’m allergic to something.

    Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other's "P for Play" marketing plans? Should these "play by the secret rules" kids be urged to "come out" or be outed? Do they get a "get out of National Shame free" card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we'll always be sprouting more Harvey's.

    Before hitting it big, Marisa Tomei did a stint on As the World Turns.

    Her character falsely accused another character – a doctor – of sexual harassment, then recanted the accusation and admitted that the whole thing had been a scam set up by the show’s main villain (another doctor at the same hospital).

    A few years later, she tried to make it as a fashion model. During the shoot, the photographer raped her. She suffered a near-total mental breakdown, but later recovered and married a British aristocrat.

    In the mid-’80s, the ATWT cast included such names as Meg Ryan, Julianne Moore, Steven Weber, William Fichtner, and John Wesley Shipp.

    [spergy infodump]

    Shipp played a disturbed restaurateur – a (young) widower with mommy issues. He charmed Moore, who had been dating Weber, into becoming his fiancee, then (with the help of his secretary/accomplice, an older woman with a strong unrequited love for him) kidnapped her along with her aunt and held them at a remote cabin in the Colorado wilderness.

    (The aunt was married to the doctor who had been accused of sexual harassment. The doctor had been married to her late sister – Moore’s mother. The aunt, in turn, had been married to the villain, forming a neat little triangle.)

    Moore, an orphan, loved her aunt like a mother; her childless* aunt returned the sentiment. Shipp, also an orphan, *also* loved the aunt like a mother. He had met and befriended her years earlier when the two worked together at a cocktail lounge – he as a busboy, she as a cabaret singer. He misinterpreted her friendly concern as a sign that she was his eternal maternal soulmate. He built a “shrine” to her, the centerpiece of which was a reel-to-reel recording of her signature performance of “Someone to Watch Over Me.” He looped it continuously, playing it for hours on end.

    One day, as Moore and Shipp were preparing to fly to Acapulco to elope, she accidentally stumbled upon the shrine, setting off the kidnapping plot.

    Moore learns the truth about Shipp:

    The aunt stumbles upon the shrine:

    Moore tries to escape (note the unironic use of the Psycho theme):

    Moore tries to convince Shipp to fly the aunt home:

    *A few years later, it turned out that the aunt *did* have a child, conceived with the doctor while he was still married to the sister. The aunt’s resentful nephew – the product of an earlier marriage – was angered by his father-in-law’s betrayal of his mother (with his aunt, no less) and conspired with the villain – who likewise had been betrayed by his wife – to have the child written off as “stillborn” and secretly shipped off to England. (Moore ended up playing both characters – for the latter, she had to put on an English accent.)

    [/spergy infodump]

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  131. @Jonathan Mason

    It is a bit more fun to think of Hollywood A-listers who aren’t likely to be accused of sexual harassment by either men or women.
     
    Well, I would like to nominate Mitzi Gaynor who came from next to nowhere to win the plum movie role of Nellie Forbush in South Pacific and then retired from movie acting soon afterwards. Obviously she did a fine audition as a naive young woman from Litte Rock, AK who falls in love with a middle aged man. She was known for having great legs, too, as well as the wavy frame of a dame.

    I would also like to nominate Audrey Hepburn who snatched the coveted musical movie role of Eliza Doolittle from fellow Brit Julie Andrews despite the minor handicap of not actually being able to sing. My Fair Lady still won the Best Picture Oscar.

    And finally I would like to nominate Julie Andrews as the greatest Oscar winner never to sleep with a producer, oh, wait a minute... reader, she married him.

    Well, I would like to nominate Mitzi Gaynor who came from next to nowhere to win the plum movie role of Nellie Forbush in South Pacific and then retired from movie acting soon afterwards. Obviously she did a fine audition as a naive young woman from Litte Rock, AK who falls in love with a middle aged man. She was known for having great legs, too, as well as the wavy frame of a dame.

    I would also like to nominate Audrey Hepburn who snatched the coveted musical movie role of Eliza Doolittle from fellow Brit Julie Andrews despite the minor handicap of not actually being able to sing. My Fair Lady still won the Best Picture Oscar.

    And finally I would like to nominate Julie Andrews as the greatest Oscar winner never to sleep with a producer, oh, wait a minute… reader, she married him.

    Good eye! Also, let’s not forget those who bent over again and again, who don’t care what you think. Marilyn Monroe is well documented, as well as Sharon Stone. Heather Graham has quite the track record, ironically featured in Steve Martin’s “Bowfinger,” doing what she allegedly does best.

    Sidenote: ever notice Steve casts women with fantastic breasts, then has his character fondle them? Heather Graham, that horse-faced girl in LA Story, and Bernadette Peters… am I missing anyone? Kinda weird, isn’t it? Like Woody Allen casting barely legals as romantic leads. I notice things sometimes. Speaking of Woody… Harvey Weinstein Mira Sorvino.. hmmm.

    One last note to Steve… sometimes an early oscar winning gal drops out of the repetitive success loop because doing what she had to do works… on her–or him. At night. When she’s/he’s alone in bed, crying. They just don’t have the belly for a career in the fast track. They thought they did, but they discover they were wrong. Their parents ultimately did too good a job, I guess.

    Ironically, you have to pick wisely when you aim to have sex with someone to further your career, and don’t do it with too many different partners of wildly different powers to help you, or you get left on the side of the road as overused goods, Sarah Silverman. Just kidding. Sarah would never do that.

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    Heather Graham claims that she only one meeting with Harvey. He gave her a pile of scripts to read and asked if she was interested in a role. Graham claims that Harvey hinted that she had to sleep with him for a role. She does not state how he hinted. He seemed to have kept his clothes on. Graham also told him that she will bring someone with her in future meetings. There was no second meeting.
    Harvey had much to fear from Graham. She claims that her coven is powerful. It can change the weather and get Obama elected. I always wonder why she did not get get Hillary elected. Maybe they hated the evil witch. Maybe Trump cast a counter spell.
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  132. @22pp22
    Off topic. Question to fellow Sailerites from a non-American.

    How much danger is Trump in?

    I’ve seen you comment before, so I know that you’re serious. You’ve seen the other commenters, so you know opinions differ. I don’t think Trump is in any particular physical danger. But the Mueller investigation seems to have expanded far beyond the original “Russian interference in the 2016 presidential elections” mandate (surprise, surprise). I think that Mueller is looking at every aspect of Trump’s business history with an eye to finding as many arguable violations of criminal law as possible. He’ll then prosecute as many Trump associates as possible, and dump the Trump allegations into Congres’s lap for an impeachment decision.

    Will he succeed? My take is that Trump’s base is pretty disappointed, although I might be projecting here. Democratic gains in the 2018 elections may make an impeachment possible. Conviction in the Senate is more difficcult, but Trump might just decide the game isn’t worht the candle at his age and resign. Pence will probably be a more willing tool of the Deep State and cuckservative Republicans.

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    Thank you for your response. I live in Cyprus and New Zealand and rarely interact with Americans. The image of the US we are presented with is so far from reality that it's very difficult to get reliable information.

    I was born in Britain and I have heard comments about Britain, both from Continental Europeans and Americans, that are frankly insane. One memorable one was from an otherwise intelligent college professor who seriously believed Catholics were unable to vote in England.

    No one cares about New Zealand or Cyprus so I never have to correct misunderstandings.

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  133. @Pat Boyle
    There is a lot of loony posturing over the Hollywood casting couch scandals of Harvey Weinstein. But certain truths are ignored. Much as I hate to get involved in this dispute, it falls to me to set a couple facts straight.

    Harvey Weinstein is a Jew. This has allowed many of the anti-Semites who lurk hereabouts to reveal themselves. This is a Hollywood scandal and Hollywood is a Jewish company town. If there were a pervert or sexual predator in Hollywood who wasn't Jewish - how likely would that be? There don't seem to be any accusations about the Amish, the Sherpas or the Montagnard Boat People. Finding Jews in Hollywood doesn't prove much.

    It is possible that the Jews are especially vile towards women - that they are a clan of rapists. But I've never heard of that in all the movies that Jews have made about themselves. On these sort of issues my go-to authority is Steve Sailer. So what is it Steve? Are Jews preternaturally obsessed with sex - and act on their obsessions?

    If you look at rape statistics the race you would expect those who are 'bad' with women would be Africans and African Americans. The religion of rapists would be Muslims. Jews just don't show up prominently in the public sex crime statistics.

    I'm not in the movie industry but I have spent a lot of my life involved in Opera. It is not unusual for young women to acquire a role in opera through their sexual charms. I suspect that this sort of thing has gone on in Italian Opera for centuries. There are some parts that almost no one can sing (e.g. The Queen of the Night) and there are others that Mozart wrote such that almost any girl with any kind of voice could handle (e.g. Susana or Cherubino in Le Nozze). How is an impresario to choose among the hundreds of young women who show up at the auditions? You know the answer to that question.

    Weinstein didn't invent the practice of taking advantage of girls who want to play dress up and go on the stage.

    Now for something a little more controversial. Girls like to be abused. Not all and not in all cases, but in human beings many females long for a 'strong' man to control them. This is the unspoken secret - that women like men who take advantage of them. Read Richard Feynman's books. He discovered that he was more successful with women at bars when he treated them badly. Or you could just look at the ads on the Web. Hundreds of thousands of women advertise that they want to be tied up and beaten by a 'strong' man. Contrary to the notions of accepted society, a taste for BDSM is far more common than either homosexuality or transgenderism.

    Females who sexually respond to being abused are probably acting out patterns laid down before humans were human. Chimpanzees (our closest relatives) behave this way. The female chimps usually get beaten up by the male chimp as part of their mating rituals. Not all females get beaten by their male but those that do seem to become more fertile. They have more baby chimps. If you know anything of Darwin you can see where that leads. Females who are beaten, out-breed those who escaped that fate, and come to dominate the gene pool. This does not seem to be the pattern among bonobos - but we descend from chimps not bonobos.

    Most of the girls who have been victimized by Hollywood producers knew exactly what they were getting in to. Those that didn't were possibly not the smartest ones. As Henry Kissinger discovered - power is sexy. A fat ugly middle aged Jew can get young girls - ever was it so.
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    https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=6180

    NCJRS Abstract
    The document referenced below is part of the NCJRS Virtual Library collection. To conduct further searches of the collection, visit the Virtual Library. See the Obtain Documents page for direction on how to access resources online, via mail, through interlibrary loans, or in a local library.\\
    ISSUES IN CRIMINOLOGY Volume:6 Issue:2 Dated:(SUMMER 1971) Pages:1-39

    excerpt.....

    THE JEWISH CRIME RATE TENDS TO BE HIGHER THAN THAT OF NONJEWS AND OTHER RELIGIOUS GROUPS FOR WHITE-COLLAR OFFENSES, THAT IS, COMMERCIAL OR COMMERCIALLY RELATED CRIMES, SUCH AS FRAUD, FRAUDULENT BANKRUPTCY, AND EMBEZZLEMENT.
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  134. @Pat Boyle
    There is a lot of loony posturing over the Hollywood casting couch scandals of Harvey Weinstein. But certain truths are ignored. Much as I hate to get involved in this dispute, it falls to me to set a couple facts straight.

    Harvey Weinstein is a Jew. This has allowed many of the anti-Semites who lurk hereabouts to reveal themselves. This is a Hollywood scandal and Hollywood is a Jewish company town. If there were a pervert or sexual predator in Hollywood who wasn't Jewish - how likely would that be? There don't seem to be any accusations about the Amish, the Sherpas or the Montagnard Boat People. Finding Jews in Hollywood doesn't prove much.

    It is possible that the Jews are especially vile towards women - that they are a clan of rapists. But I've never heard of that in all the movies that Jews have made about themselves. On these sort of issues my go-to authority is Steve Sailer. So what is it Steve? Are Jews preternaturally obsessed with sex - and act on their obsessions?

    If you look at rape statistics the race you would expect those who are 'bad' with women would be Africans and African Americans. The religion of rapists would be Muslims. Jews just don't show up prominently in the public sex crime statistics.

    I'm not in the movie industry but I have spent a lot of my life involved in Opera. It is not unusual for young women to acquire a role in opera through their sexual charms. I suspect that this sort of thing has gone on in Italian Opera for centuries. There are some parts that almost no one can sing (e.g. The Queen of the Night) and there are others that Mozart wrote such that almost any girl with any kind of voice could handle (e.g. Susana or Cherubino in Le Nozze). How is an impresario to choose among the hundreds of young women who show up at the auditions? You know the answer to that question.

    Weinstein didn't invent the practice of taking advantage of girls who want to play dress up and go on the stage.

    Now for something a little more controversial. Girls like to be abused. Not all and not in all cases, but in human beings many females long for a 'strong' man to control them. This is the unspoken secret - that women like men who take advantage of them. Read Richard Feynman's books. He discovered that he was more successful with women at bars when he treated them badly. Or you could just look at the ads on the Web. Hundreds of thousands of women advertise that they want to be tied up and beaten by a 'strong' man. Contrary to the notions of accepted society, a taste for BDSM is far more common than either homosexuality or transgenderism.

    Females who sexually respond to being abused are probably acting out patterns laid down before humans were human. Chimpanzees (our closest relatives) behave this way. The female chimps usually get beaten up by the male chimp as part of their mating rituals. Not all females get beaten by their male but those that do seem to become more fertile. They have more baby chimps. If you know anything of Darwin you can see where that leads. Females who are beaten, out-breed those who escaped that fate, and come to dominate the gene pool. This does not seem to be the pattern among bonobos - but we descend from chimps not bonobos.

    Most of the girls who have been victimized by Hollywood producers knew exactly what they were getting in to. Those that didn't were possibly not the smartest ones. As Henry Kissinger discovered - power is sexy. A fat ugly middle aged Jew can get young girls - ever was it so.

    The part about the Amish in your comment I liked the most – ehh, just kiddin’

    Canadian psychologist Jordan B. Petersen said in one of his videos, that the SM novel Fifty Shades of Grey was the fastetst selling novel ever – and it is being bought mostly by women.

    And he added that the most popular female sex fantasies are: Werwolfe, Vampire, Billionaire, Pirate…
    (Amish don’t show up on this list at all – it’s even hard to think how they manage to replicate, in this age of universal porn (ooops – I did it again…).

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    Canadian psychologist Jordan B. Petersen said in one of his videos, that the SM novel Fifty Shades of Grey was the fastetst selling novel ever – and it is being bought mostly by women.
     
    Okay, fastest selling. Overall? Hmm...

    I read romance novels at one point in my life. You want to know the novel that they put out ever month, in those places that sell romance novels by the pound?

    Billionaire Greek marries his secretary. Every single month for years. I assume they just switch out the covers at some to save time.

    Fantasy=fantasy. Real life is a whole another ball of yarn.

    If you don't think you need to be billionaire, over worked Greek (Italian), who just needs a women to fill out his workaholic life, let's not go down the road that beating up women is exactly they want. Rape fantasy is out there as a genre. It might be out there more as entertainment has had to devolve into sensationalism to try to attract eyeballs. But it's not even close to universal. If you find a woman who really digs being beat up, you've found yourself a mess of problems, including a woman who is unlikely to be a half decent Mother.

    , @TelfoedJohn
    JBP correlated the success of S&M novels with feminism. With fewer socially allowed differences between men and women, the differences retreat to the imagination - in heightened form. Hence S&M. It used to be the territory for buttoned-up products of posh boarding schools.
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  135. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Thea
    OT

    Donna Brazile just threw Clinton, ugly Debbie and Obama under the bus. Does she know something? I thought Obama was beyond reproach so this seems new.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

    Her side is out of power, and she’s a known corrupt failure. A book deal may be her last chance to make significant money for many, many years. She’s unlikely to land a lucrative job unless she turns on her former friends and aligns herself with the new generation of emerging Dem winners in the next election cycle.

    It also may signal that part of the left has decided to eat its own and purge itself. I’ve been predicting a big Dem civil war after their defeat in 2016, but Trump-hatred has been uniting them so far. The purge is beginning to build up steam, however.

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  136. OT–a state chairman of the AfD moved into an apartment and soon got harassed by antifa, his car was burnt, other cars and a balcony of the house were damaged, this had happened before elsewhere. According to a German district court his landlady can end his lease because he didn’t tell of “his special role” and the associated risks, referring to a decision by a higher court. The article doesn’t spell it out, but it means effectively that members of the AfD need to disclose their membership to landlords or many insurers, who are free to refuse their business on these grounds, though normally at least landlords couldn’t do that. Most landlords will do so, ‘right-wing-extremists’ are outcasts, it’s extremely difficult by now to rent halls for party meetings, the few they get get blocked by antifa, police will mostly do a bare minimum. Home-ownership is scarce over here, so that’s pretty much the start of a witch hunt. He’ll appeal, but success doesn’t seem likely.

    https://www.hna.de/lokales/goettingen/goettingen-ort28741/gerichtsstreit-um-mietvertrag-niederlage-fuer-goettinger-afd-nachwuchspolitiker-9010160.html

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    The link to google translate doesn't work well bc. of some CSS stuff, I'll past it here:

    District Court made judgment
    Court dispute for lease: defeat for Göttingen AfD politician

    02.11.17 15:51

    Goettingen. The state chairman of the young AfD organization Young Alternative, Lars Steinke, has to look for a new apartment due to a court decision.

    The District Court of Göttingen was now a claim for annulment of his landlady instead. Reason: The 24-year-old had concealed his landlady that he could be a potential target for left-wing violence because of his political activities. According to the court, he should have informed her about his special role, because this could also affect the rental property, a spokesman said. Since he failed to do so, the lease was made by fraudulent misrepresentation and thus void.


    The 24-year-old moved to the apartment in Göttingen in July 2017. Several months later, the landlady moved to court to challenge the lease - with success: The district court Göttingen referred in its decision on the relevant case law of the Federal Court. Accordingly, there is a fraudulent deception even if someone conceals facts about which a contractor in good faith can expect clarification. For example, a car salesman must point out when a used car had an accident.

    The Goettingen functionary of the "Young Alternative" had himself in posted posts to point out that he sees himself as the target of left activists. Since this circumstance was significant for the decision on the conclusion of the lease, he would have had to inform his landlady without asking, the court ruled. In fact, it had come in the subsequent period to property damage and arson in the area of ​​the house, including at garbage cans.

    In March, the car of the 24-year-old, who had parked there at the edge of the road, went up in flames in front of the house. The heat also damaged another car and a nearby balcony railing. The court pointed out that similar incidents had already occurred at its former home address in Göttingen.

    The lease had been completed by the father of the 24-year-old. According to a justice spokesman, the contract contained a clause that he would leave the apartment permanently for his son to use. However, it did not arrive at the decision.

    Appeal against judgment

    The 24-year-old said after the court decision that he wanted to appeal against the "scandalous verdict" appeal.
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  137. Dumbo says:
    @Jack D

    What’s more, their movies suck, even the “brainy” ones.
     
    Compared to what? There's no accounting for taste but Hollywood movies are one of the few remaining export worthy products made in the USA. Almost no one overseas has wanted to buy an American car for 40 years now but Hollywood is still the gold standard in entertainment all over the globe.

    It's possible that 100% of studios operated on the "pay to play" system but I think in the current witch hunting atmosphere we would hear about it if that was true. Instead, after the initial wave of serious abusers like Harvey, they are now going after guys who once upon a time pinched a girl's behind or made a dirty joke. If there was a deep vein to be mined they wouldn't be going after the slim pickin's so soon.

    And it's not true that the actors who played along willingly are in no position to squawk now. In fact they are in a perfect position to do so - all they have to do is pull out their victim cards and say that they were coerced - even as they were saying yes,yes,yes in their hearts they meant no,no, no. No one will dispute them in the current atmosphere. A number of Harvey's "victims" have already said this and no one has thought less of them for it. If they were later seen socializing with Harvey, continued to date Harvey, etc. this was all the result of PTSD. How dare you blame the victim! Every time the Japanese suggest that some of the Korean "comfort women" might have been professional prostitutes to begin with, the Koreans hold another demonstration - no the comfort women were all 100% pure innocent virgins kidnapped by the evil Japs and anyone who suggests otherwise is a monster. Morality plays are always black & white - no shades of grey allowed.

    Compared to what?

    European and Japanese movies used to be pretty good until they were destroyed by Hollywood. I’m not sure about Japanese movies now (except for animation which is still quite good), but Europeans are just trying to copy mediocre Hollywood movies these days, just with less money and worse results.

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    European and Japanese movies used to be pretty good until they were destroyed by Hollywood. I’m not sure about Japanese movies now (except for animation which is still quite good), but Europeans are just trying to copy mediocre Hollywood movies these days, just with less money and worse results.
     
    Japanese cinema is still cranking out pretty good stuff. Tends to be human drama stuff, low on effects, high on Japanese cultural references, etc. I guess this is what one would expect of a a smaller, nation-scoped film industry.
    , @whorefinder
    Luc Besson (French director) set up a production company/studio (I don't know the correct film industry name here) that produces nothing but European-made glossy but B-grade schlocky action movies with a formerly A-List Hollywood actor in the lead. I'm sure Besson believes these are Death Wish-esque movies instead of sad bad films.

    This is where we got Taken (with Liam Neeson) and 3 Days to Kill (starring Kevin Costner, directed by the crap man himself, McG). The guy who wrote The Karate Kid also is involved. The movies can be fun to watch in a oh-dear-this-is-a-train-wreck-of-awful kind of way.

    The day of Euro-movies being seen as more "sophisticated" are pretty much dead in 2017.

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  138. @theo the kraut
    OT--a state chairman of the AfD moved into an apartment and soon got harassed by antifa, his car was burnt, other cars and a balcony of the house were damaged, this had happened before elsewhere. According to a German district court his landlady can end his lease because he didn't tell of "his special role" and the associated risks, referring to a decision by a higher court. The article doesn't spell it out, but it means effectively that members of the AfD need to disclose their membership to landlords or many insurers, who are free to refuse their business on these grounds, though normally at least landlords couldn't do that. Most landlords will do so, 'right-wing-extremists' are outcasts, it's extremely difficult by now to rent halls for party meetings, the few they get get blocked by antifa, police will mostly do a bare minimum. Home-ownership is scarce over here, so that's pretty much the start of a witch hunt. He'll appeal, but success doesn't seem likely.

    https://www.hna.de/lokales/goettingen/goettingen-ort28741/gerichtsstreit-um-mietvertrag-niederlage-fuer-goettinger-afd-nachwuchspolitiker-9010160.html

    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hna.de%2Flokales%2Fgoettingen%2Fgoettingen-ort28741%2Fgerichtsstreit-um-mietvertrag-niederlage-fuer-goettinger-afd-nachwuchspolitiker-9010160.html&edit-text=&act=url

    The link to google translate doesn’t work well bc. of some CSS stuff, I’ll past it here:

    District Court made judgment
    Court dispute for lease: defeat for Göttingen AfD politician

    02.11.17 15:51

    Goettingen. The state chairman of the young AfD organization Young Alternative, Lars Steinke, has to look for a new apartment due to a court decision.

    The District Court of Göttingen was now a claim for annulment of his landlady instead. Reason: The 24-year-old had concealed his landlady that he could be a potential target for left-wing violence because of his political activities. According to the court, he should have informed her about his special role, because this could also affect the rental property, a spokesman said. Since he failed to do so, the lease was made by fraudulent misrepresentation and thus void.

    The 24-year-old moved to the apartment in Göttingen in July 2017. Several months later, the landlady moved to court to challenge the lease – with success: The district court Göttingen referred in its decision on the relevant case law of the Federal Court. Accordingly, there is a fraudulent deception even if someone conceals facts about which a contractor in good faith can expect clarification. For example, a car salesman must point out when a used car had an accident.

    The Goettingen functionary of the “Young Alternative” had himself in posted posts to point out that he sees himself as the target of left activists. Since this circumstance was significant for the decision on the conclusion of the lease, he would have had to inform his landlady without asking, the court ruled. In fact, it had come in the subsequent period to property damage and arson in the area of ​​the house, including at garbage cans.

    In March, the car of the 24-year-old, who had parked there at the edge of the road, went up in flames in front of the house. The heat also damaged another car and a nearby balcony railing. The court pointed out that similar incidents had already occurred at its former home address in Göttingen.

    The lease had been completed by the father of the 24-year-old. According to a justice spokesman, the contract contained a clause that he would leave the apartment permanently for his son to use. However, it did not arrive at the decision.

    Appeal against judgment

    The 24-year-old said after the court decision that he wanted to appeal against the “scandalous verdict” appeal.

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  139. Tim says:

    I don’t know, is it me, or does it seem like Jews revel in humiliating the Goy.

    Ya get the feeling they brag about it among themselves.

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  140. AM says:
    @Dieter Kief
    The part about the Amish in your comment I liked the most - ehh, just kiddin'

    Canadian psychologist Jordan B. Petersen said in one of his videos, that the SM novel Fifty Shades of Grey was the fastetst selling novel ever - and it is being bought mostly by women.

    And he added that the most popular female sex fantasies are: Werwolfe, Vampire, Billionaire, Pirate...
    (Amish don't show up on this list at all - it's even hard to think how they manage to replicate, in this age of universal porn (ooops - I did it again...).

    Canadian psychologist Jordan B. Petersen said in one of his videos, that the SM novel Fifty Shades of Grey was the fastetst selling novel ever – and it is being bought mostly by women.

    Okay, fastest selling. Overall? Hmm…

    I read romance novels at one point in my life. You want to know the novel that they put out ever month, in those places that sell romance novels by the pound?

    Billionaire Greek marries his secretary. Every single month for years. I assume they just switch out the covers at some to save time.

    Fantasy=fantasy. Real life is a whole another ball of yarn.

    If you don’t think you need to be billionaire, over worked Greek (Italian), who just needs a women to fill out his workaholic life, let’s not go down the road that beating up women is exactly they want. Rape fantasy is out there as a genre. It might be out there more as entertainment has had to devolve into sensationalism to try to attract eyeballs. But it’s not even close to universal. If you find a woman who really digs being beat up, you’ve found yourself a mess of problems, including a woman who is unlikely to be a half decent Mother.

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    Billionaire Greek marries his secretary. Every single month for years. I assume they just switch out the covers at some to save time.
     
    I actually knew of a story of a romance author who did exactly that, beyond change names and some nouns in a random word generator. He made quite a bit before he got caught.
    , @Dieter Kief
    Agreed - as I wrote in my first comment: Petersen is talking about fantasies. And the billionaire is one of the five most popular (Nr. 3, if I remember right). The other ones are also telling: Werwolf, Vampire, Pirate. Petersen goes on to name the most common denominator of the most popular porn-fantasies of women: Dominance on the men's side - power - - and being dominated on the women's side.

    - And then there is this weird fact that Pat Boyle mentions above - :That chimps beat females at times right before intercourse, and that those females get pregnant more often - I know, I know, we are no chimps... but at the moment I think that way (= we are no chimps) , I can't help but to remember, what Petersen says about the most popular porn-fantasies of women.

    (See?)

    , @Pat Boyle
    I have Netflix and HBO and they play "Fifty Shades of Grey" often - but I've never watched it. I rented "The Secretary" on DVD several years ago but couldn't watch it either. I have a weakness for Jason Stratham action movies. I'm sure someone will diagnose my mental and moral deficiencies now that I have revealed that insight into my soul.
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  141. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @StillCARealist
    I have to agree with you. When this site praises intelligence as much as it does there can't be silence when the really smart guys wind up being the most wicked and filthy.

    "What’s more, their movies suck, even the “brainy” ones."

    To me, most modern movies are just plain boring. Why do people continue to shell out hard-earned money for the same shtick?

    High intelligence gives you great power to do the most evil. This has been known since Plato, and much of the best part of Western civilization, in my view, focuses on the challenge of getting the most intelligent to do good. But this effort must never cease.

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  142. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

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    I'll take her modus tollens and give her a modus ponens right back.
    , @JerryC
    Haha. Wow.
    , @whorefinder
    It's like she's allergic to reality.
    , @Cagey Beast
    ... and today a Goyboy was put forward as the next head of the Fed. Add to that the current war on Jewish men exercising (exorcising?) their heterosexuality and we have something of a trend forming.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Ahh, Sophie Ellman-Golan. Another (((Fellow White))) who bravely confronts white womanhood (#33) by telling white women not to call the police when being menaced by “scary black men.”

    Don’t call the police. Don’t do it. How dare we choose as the enforcer of safety an institution that has demonstrated how deeply unsafe it is?
     
    , @Reg Cæsar
    Sophie is Greek (via French) for "wisdom".
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  143. @22pp22
    Off topic. Question to fellow Sailerites from a non-American.

    How much danger is Trump in?

    That’s a deep question. His level of danger is inversely proportional to how much he conforms to The Powers That Be.

    So far, he does not appear to be the comprehensive threat to TPTB that we voted for. He’s a mixed bag.

    He is defying political correctness and trying to cut some forms of immigration, but so far there are zero miles of The Wall built and H-1B visas and such continue to roll on and destroy American standards of living and livelihoods at many levels.

    He appears to be doing whatever an executive can about lopsided foreign trade without any help from the legislature, but he kow-tows to China instead of cutting them off and telling them to go to hell. (Yes, we know, that’s impossible, right? So we watch the Asian giant slowly devour our world.)

    He is solidly on board with the Zionist plan for the Middle East, and so the wars continue.

    Today’s vaunted tax plan does nothing for the bottom line of many of us, though it does simplify things and get rid of some absurd charges on high earners.

    So, Trump is partially revolutionary and partially status quo. Conclusion: He is only in partial danger.

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  144. AM says:
    @advancedatheist
    Freethinking white people promoted sexual freedom before Jews got into the act, starting in the Enlightenment. You can't blame Jews for the Oneida cult in the 19th Century, for example.

    Freethinking white people promoted sexual freedom before Jews got into the act, starting in the Enlightenment. You can’t blame Jews for the Oneida cult in the 19th Century, for example.

    Sexual freedom is perennially popular…at least, before the walls cave in.

    It was hallmark of the late Roman Empire.

    The Gnostics of the middle ages were fans, but only if didn’t result in children. Let’s just say, after 100 years of degeneracy, among other problems, you might have been on the side of the French Bishops who raised armies after the Cathars did.

    If absolutely nothing else, the 10 Commandments work in keeping a society pulled together and understand that sex has more of a reality than just pleasure.

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  145. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @TelfoedJohn
    Jezebel, Huff Po etc are not ignoring the revelations, but they are careful not to join the dots - ie point out that many perpetrators are Jews and signalling Leftists etc. It makes a change from the ‘Bye Goy’ headlines after Bannon left. Could you imagine ‘Bye Jews’?

    “MANY…are Jews?” Try “virtually all”.

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  146. anonguy says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I don't understand why everybody keeps going back to Marisa Tomei's 1992 Best Supporting Actress Oscar in My Cousin Vinny as a mistake.

    First, she's great in My Cousin Vinny.

    Second, she's earned two more Oscar nominations since, including for playing a stripper in 2008 in The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke.

    Third, she's almost impervious to aging. She is working steadily in giant budget movies in her 50s. They recently wrote her into the Marvel movies as Spider-Man's suddenly-sexy Aunt May to flirt with Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark. They have a lot of chemistry together. I'm sure she is planning on graduating from sexy aunt to sexy grandma to sexy great-grandma roles.

    Fourth, I can think of other young actresses who won Oscars in her era who haven't had her career.

    I don’t understand why everybody keeps going back to Marisa Tomei’s 1992 Best Supporting Actress Oscar in My Cousin Vinny as a mistake.

    First, she’s great in My Cousin Vinny.

    Me neither, that was an absolutely brilliant performance, her timing, intonation, and mannerisms, just perfect. What is there not to like about it? I never even knew it was controversial…. Maybe after I read the rest of the comments, someone has explained it.

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  147. anonguy says:
    @Jack D
    The problem with witch hunts is that they are like forest fires - they are uncontrollable and burn the good along with the bad. Now maybe there is not much good around in our ruling class and they all deserve to be burned but if you look at the history of places that have been through a bonfire of the vanities, it is not encouraging - what comes next is usually even worse. If you don't like our current ruling class you will like their replacements even less. Those three psych professors may be standard issue liberals but they are white men who received real educations and have some shreds of decency. Their replacements will surely be transgender mulattoes/Latinxes who think of nothing but hating whitey all day long and care nothing for whitey norms like decency and fairness.

    The problem with witch hunts is that they are like forest fires – they are uncontrollable and burn the good along with the bad. Now maybe there is not much good around in our ruling class and they all deserve to be burned but if you look at the history of places that have been through a bonfire of the vanities, it is not encouraging – what comes next is usually even worse. If you don’t like our current ruling class you will like their replacements even less. Those three psych professors may be standard issue liberals but they are white men who received real educations and have some shreds of decency. Their replacements will surely be transgender mulattoes/Latinxes who think of nothing but hating whitey all day long and care nothing for whitey norms like decency and fairness.

    Typical GOP “beautiful loser” cant.

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    Yeah.

    Although I'd probably substitute "screed" for "cant."
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  148. @Dieter Kief
    The part about the Amish in your comment I liked the most - ehh, just kiddin'

    Canadian psychologist Jordan B. Petersen said in one of his videos, that the SM novel Fifty Shades of Grey was the fastetst selling novel ever - and it is being bought mostly by women.

    And he added that the most popular female sex fantasies are: Werwolfe, Vampire, Billionaire, Pirate...
    (Amish don't show up on this list at all - it's even hard to think how they manage to replicate, in this age of universal porn (ooops - I did it again...).

    JBP correlated the success of S&M novels with feminism. With fewer socially allowed differences between men and women, the differences retreat to the imagination – in heightened form. Hence S&M. It used to be the territory for buttoned-up products of posh boarding schools.

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  149. @Anonymous
    Julia Roberts? I've never understood her popularity. I first saw her in Mystic Pizza, and I thought that she was by far the most annoying character in the movie. I dislike her general "sassy" attitude and her big, toothy smile.

    Agree wrt Julia Roberts. Pretty Woman blew dead dogs but every woman I know loved loved loved it.

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  150. @Anonymous
    Why would any director or other movie executive think that Rose McGowan might be game for pay for play?

    Because she dresses like a slut? Just a thought after seeing her pictures.

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  151. @22pp22
    Off topic. Question to fellow Sailerites from a non-American.

    How much danger is Trump in?

    I’d say that, based on anything that’s been produced so far, there’s about zero probability Trump will be impeached.

    The only question is: what might be produced in the future against him?

    There I’d guess the likelihood is very low that something important will come up. One would expect it would already have been brought out, or at least brought into clear sight, if it existed.

    I’d generally say that Trump is, if anything, becoming only more formidable a political force over time. He’s done a remarkable and rather surprisingly good job of bending the Republican Party to his will and policies, mainly by ending the careers of some NeverTrumpers among the Republicans. This has done much to encourage the others to fall in line. He’s also made the immigration issue only more prominent, and more damaging to his opponents.

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  152. @AM

    Canadian psychologist Jordan B. Petersen said in one of his videos, that the SM novel Fifty Shades of Grey was the fastetst selling novel ever – and it is being bought mostly by women.
     
    Okay, fastest selling. Overall? Hmm...

    I read romance novels at one point in my life. You want to know the novel that they put out ever month, in those places that sell romance novels by the pound?

    Billionaire Greek marries his secretary. Every single month for years. I assume they just switch out the covers at some to save time.

    Fantasy=fantasy. Real life is a whole another ball of yarn.

    If you don't think you need to be billionaire, over worked Greek (Italian), who just needs a women to fill out his workaholic life, let's not go down the road that beating up women is exactly they want. Rape fantasy is out there as a genre. It might be out there more as entertainment has had to devolve into sensationalism to try to attract eyeballs. But it's not even close to universal. If you find a woman who really digs being beat up, you've found yourself a mess of problems, including a woman who is unlikely to be a half decent Mother.

    Billionaire Greek marries his secretary. Every single month for years. I assume they just switch out the covers at some to save time.

    I actually knew of a story of a romance author who did exactly that, beyond change names and some nouns in a random word generator. He made quite a bit before he got caught.

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  153. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Ian M.

    Jews have, on average, much more sexual perversion than non-Jews. People commented on this freely for a very long time, and then Jews decided that they were the normal ones and everyone else was “repressed” and needed to be “liberated” from their repression, and made up some unsupported “psychoanalysis” nonsense to justify why everyone needed to be pegged and have multiple sex partners.

     

    Are there any stats on this? Jews are certainly heavily implicated in pornography. I also get the sense today that there are a disproportionate number of Jewish homosexuals when compared to other groups. On the other hand, I remember a friend sending me some survey that showed that of all the groups surveyed, Jews had the highest percentage of those who had never partaken in the solitary vice, which surprised me.

    The impression I get is that, say, in fin de siècle western Europe and into the early 20th century, Jews were associated more with heterosexual vice and lechery, while Northwestern European gentiles were more associated with homosexual vice, although in the pagan milieu that had become fashionable at the time, this wasn’t necessarily considered a vice, but something virile and manly.

    For example, Paul Johnson in Modern Times writes that the nudist sunbathing movement that arose in Germany in the early 20th century came to be regarded as having a good kind and bad kind: the 'good' kind of nudism was Aryan and either non-sexual or homosexual in contrast to the bad 'Jewish' type of nudism, which was considered heterosexual and erotic.

    German gentiles like Adolf Brand and Hans Blüher advocated for pederastic relationships as being highly masculine and ideal. They opposed the Jew Magnus Hirschfeld because they regarded his brand of homosexuality as being effeminate.

    I get a similar sense about England during that same time period, but to a lesser degree.

    The connection I note is between incestual groups: people whose marriages/immediate family history involves very close relations being sexual tend to be extremely perverted.

    I think that the amount of normal sexual disgust about incest is not there in such families, and as a result the “experimentation” of the family in other extreme practices—homosexuality, anal sex, multiple partners, S&M, etc.—goes way up. Certainly the large percentage of homosexuals who claim molestation as a youth (somewhere around 40%) lends credence to my hypothesis, as the molestation usually comes from family members, who, in healthy families, would be repulsed by being sexual with their own kin.

    Jews tend to be extremely inbred in the West, due to the fact of their own religious practices barring intermarriage with goyim, their low numbers, and their actually declaring that the goyim are somehow less human than the Jews themselves. If you trace the family tree of American Jew, you’ll find a lot of close intermarriages that would seem icky to a modern person. (e.g. The Wolf Of Wall Street‘s Jonah Hill character).

    This causes projection. This is why Jews tend to constantly berate Southern white Scotch-Irish as “inbreds”, even going so far as having a subgenre of film trope about them—horror films/comedy films where the bad guys are all incestual white country folk from the former confederate states. It’s pure psychological attack on the Jews part, covering up the fact that they consistently marry their own cousins even today.

    This also goes for American blacks (the incest/projection onto whites), but even fewer people talk about that because, while Jews might occasionally joke about inbreeding (e.g. every Askenazi is a 3rd cousin to every other), blacks never do, and certainly our culture does not allow for criticism of the black community’s abuse. What is more, since most blacks have no idea who their father is, but daddy often has multiple children from multiple women in the same black ghetoo, half-brothers and sisters get together a lot and don’t even know it. And then, since most black men aren’t getting laid (it’s a Big Man culture), many turn to each other when horny, which is why there’s a black cultural thing of being on the down low.

    Anyway, I don’t have any hard numbers, but this is just from noticing things that aren’t supposed to be noticed. I don’t think you could actually come up with a hard number on either group in 2017 simply because any attempt would be decried as racist/anti-semitic and the communities themselves would clam up once you started asking questions (incest/family sexual abuse isn’t something actual victims like talking about).

    Yes, there are instances of white goyim being all about perverted sex and trying hippie stuff; certainly Jews would not be so famously into the flesh trade if there weren’t at least some goyim eagerly buying it. The goyim movements, however, tended to have a nationalistic/open racial/religious to it, befitting movements where philosophy begat the practices, while the Jewish ones were all about trying to justify the practice because the practice was already beloved.

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  154. Vinteuil says:

    It’s certainly interesting to wonder where all this will lead.

    *The Forward* has a big piece up today, celebrating the 100th birthday of Leonard Bernstein.

    No mention of the fact that Bernstein was just about the most notorious, flagrant & gross sexual abuser of young men ever to walk the earth.

    Should we just not talk about that, because he was a talented composer & conductor?

    All my attempts to leave a comment at *The Forward* have ended in failure.

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  155. 22pp22 says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    I've seen you comment before, so I know that you're serious. You've seen the other commenters, so you know opinions differ. I don't think Trump is in any particular physical danger. But the Mueller investigation seems to have expanded far beyond the original "Russian interference in the 2016 presidential elections" mandate (surprise, surprise). I think that Mueller is looking at every aspect of Trump's business history with an eye to finding as many arguable violations of criminal law as possible. He'll then prosecute as many Trump associates as possible, and dump the Trump allegations into Congres's lap for an impeachment decision.

    Will he succeed? My take is that Trump's base is pretty disappointed, although I might be projecting here. Democratic gains in the 2018 elections may make an impeachment possible. Conviction in the Senate is more difficcult, but Trump might just decide the game isn't worht the candle at his age and resign. Pence will probably be a more willing tool of the Deep State and cuckservative Republicans.

    Thank you for your response. I live in Cyprus and New Zealand and rarely interact with Americans. The image of the US we are presented with is so far from reality that it’s very difficult to get reliable information.

    I was born in Britain and I have heard comments about Britain, both from Continental Europeans and Americans, that are frankly insane. One memorable one was from an otherwise intelligent college professor who seriously believed Catholics were unable to vote in England.

    No one cares about New Zealand or Cyprus so I never have to correct misunderstandings.

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  156. anonguy says:
    @Dumbo

    Compared to what?

     

    European and Japanese movies used to be pretty good until they were destroyed by Hollywood. I'm not sure about Japanese movies now (except for animation which is still quite good), but Europeans are just trying to copy mediocre Hollywood movies these days, just with less money and worse results.

    European and Japanese movies used to be pretty good until they were destroyed by Hollywood. I’m not sure about Japanese movies now (except for animation which is still quite good), but Europeans are just trying to copy mediocre Hollywood movies these days, just with less money and worse results.

    Japanese cinema is still cranking out pretty good stuff. Tends to be human drama stuff, low on effects, high on Japanese cultural references, etc. I guess this is what one would expect of a a smaller, nation-scoped film industry.

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  157. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/EgSophie/status/925916754911596550

    I’ll take her modus tollens and give her a modus ponens right back.

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    I read this and laughed, and then went back to look at this "Sophie". I'm not familiar with her, and thought at first she must be a sort of Godfrey Elfwick. But it seems not. But she seems too familiar with too many hatefacts to last long in her current role.... she seems to think that some degree of intelligence and cleverness will save her.

    Sophie, what happened to Winston's lunchmate Syme?
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  158. Truth says:
    @anonguy

    The problem with witch hunts is that they are like forest fires – they are uncontrollable and burn the good along with the bad. Now maybe there is not much good around in our ruling class and they all deserve to be burned but if you look at the history of places that have been through a bonfire of the vanities, it is not encouraging – what comes next is usually even worse. If you don’t like our current ruling class you will like their replacements even less. Those three psych professors may be standard issue liberals but they are white men who received real educations and have some shreds of decency. Their replacements will surely be transgender mulattoes/Latinxes who think of nothing but hating whitey all day long and care nothing for whitey norms like decency and fairness.
     
    Typical GOP "beautiful loser" cant.

    Yeah.

    Although I’d probably substitute “screed” for “cant.”

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  159. JerryC says:
    @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/EgSophie/status/925916754911596550

    Haha. Wow.

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  160. guest says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I don't understand why everybody keeps going back to Marisa Tomei's 1992 Best Supporting Actress Oscar in My Cousin Vinny as a mistake.

    First, she's great in My Cousin Vinny.

    Second, she's earned two more Oscar nominations since, including for playing a stripper in 2008 in The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke.

    Third, she's almost impervious to aging. She is working steadily in giant budget movies in her 50s. They recently wrote her into the Marvel movies as Spider-Man's suddenly-sexy Aunt May to flirt with Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark. They have a lot of chemistry together. I'm sure she is planning on graduating from sexy aunt to sexy grandma to sexy great-grandma roles.

    Fourth, I can think of other young actresses who won Oscars in her era who haven't had her career.

    It’s obvious why it still sticks in people’s minds (aside from the fact that they don’t trust the mental faculties of Jack Palance): a) My Cousin Vinny isn’t the type of movie, and b) aside from the occasional Judy Holiday in Born Yesterday, Tomei’s isn’t the type of role, that usually win Oscars.

    It’s a clever little comedy, eminently unwatchable, but not checking off any of the usual Oscar boxes. They like to reward movies they’re otherwise rewarding on smaller categories, too. So even if a performance in something like My Cousin Vinny is great, “Yeah, but it’s My Cousin Vinny,” is the thinking.

    Character actors and comedians get noticed the supporting categories, but the Oscars likes to honor the movies that are already winning in the smaller categories, too. Tomei was kinda sorta type cast, if you consider her previous role in Oscar (the Sly Stallone period farce, not to be confused with the awards ceremony) as a bratty Italian princess. But I don’t think he appearance screams “funny character actress,” so she doesn’t get the benefit of that.

    Possessing possible leading-lady looks doesn’t count for her, here. She doesn’t get the benefit of playing against type in a funny “character” sort of part, firstly because that was her type (see Oscar). She wasn’t yet starring in romances, I don’t think. Also because awards like it when you degrade yourself, with a big nose or something. Walking around a one-horse town in garish Jersey Shore-type outfits is degrading, but not in the right way.

    Finally, being an Oscar winner of course influences whether or not you receive subsequent nominations. Not everyone gets exiled to Alaska to lead snow dogs like Cuba.

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    Okay, but those are all reasons why the chances of winning an Oscar for My Cousin Vinny were low, so the fact that Marisa Tomei did win would suggest she was, indeed, pretty good in the movie to overcome the Oscar prejudices against funny, popular comedies.

    Anyway, instead of looking at highly successful movies like My Cousin Vinny, why not look for movies sunk by terrible performances from beautiful but obscure (before and after) actresses cast as leading ladies?

    For example, the 1983 movie "Breathless" had a number of good things going for it, including one of the livelier performances by Richard Gere (he was usually cast back then in flat affect roles that would go to Ryan Gosling today). But the leading lady, some pretty French girl, was completely amateurish.

    , @guest
    Whoops, I just noticed I put "unwatchable" when I meant "re-watchable." Totally opposite meaning.
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  161. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Dumbo

    Compared to what?

     

    European and Japanese movies used to be pretty good until they were destroyed by Hollywood. I'm not sure about Japanese movies now (except for animation which is still quite good), but Europeans are just trying to copy mediocre Hollywood movies these days, just with less money and worse results.

    Luc Besson (French director) set up a production company/studio (I don’t know the correct film industry name here) that produces nothing but European-made glossy but B-grade schlocky action movies with a formerly A-List Hollywood actor in the lead. I’m sure Besson believes these are Death Wish-esque movies instead of sad bad films.

    This is where we got Taken (with Liam Neeson) and 3 Days to Kill (starring Kevin Costner, directed by the crap man himself, McG). The guy who wrote The Karate Kid also is involved. The movies can be fun to watch in a oh-dear-this-is-a-train-wreck-of-awful kind of way.

    The day of Euro-movies being seen as more “sophisticated” are pretty much dead in 2017.

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  162. So far:

    Harvey Sweinstein
    Brett Ratner
    Mark Halperin
    Jeremy Piven
    Dustin Hoffman
    James Toback
    Kevin Spacey
    Ben Affleck

    Hollywood is morally bankrupt, and guess who’s leading the way? The first 5 out of these 8 are all Jewish. Are Jews simply morally bankrupt? Oh wait only an anti-semite would think that right?

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  163. guest says:
    @advancedatheist
    Freethinking white people promoted sexual freedom before Jews got into the act, starting in the Enlightenment. You can't blame Jews for the Oneida cult in the 19th Century, for example.

    What you’re talking about is absolutely true, but it was secret. David Stove was emphatic on the Secret of the Enlightenment being free love and birth control. It was hinted at and guessed, but kept bottled up for a long time. They didn’t advocate it openly, maybe merely because the ground hadn’t been well enough prepared for people not to kill them with fire if they came out.

    But it’s not as if Freud’s time was obviously ripe. Retrospectively, yes, because we know he blew up the dam open. Then again, it was more of a moral victory. The fruits didn’t bloom civilization-wide until the 60s. High culture, especially arts, back when was degenerating. The “Decadents” and so forth of the 1890s. But that was only a small part of the culture.

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  164. Travis says:
    @res

    2. If the women (and men) are happy with the deal they got, which logic says most of them are, then what would be the point of coming forward?
     
    A few.

    - Simple resentment. Especially if the deal turned out worse than they expected going in.
    - Want to eat their cake and have it too.
    - Given how they so effortlessly became successful once given the opportunity it should not have been necessary to do that.
    - Wanting to recast the narrative as them being exploited rather than them being a (pick a word).

    It does not really work to think about this as a simple deal. There are many stages (and I am probably missing some).
    - Put out or get out.
    - Have put out but benefits not granted yet. (how many of the casting couch group don't get the purported benefits in the end?)
    - Initial success but still vulnerable to being torn down or just not adequately supported going forward.
    - Successful enough that they don't need support.
    - Successful enough that they can get work, etc. after active opposition.

    How much of the payoff to the Weinstein-types is later being able to say/remember what they did with this beautiful, successful, and much loved figure? I think the humiliation aspect is hard for a normal person to really understand.

    Ashley Judd admitted to making a deal to sleep with Harvey Weinstein if she was in one of his oscar nominated films and got an Oscar..

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  165. guest says:
    @Robert Hume

    I have a theory that you California guys are too close to this business (Hollywood). It is pretty common in the rest of America to find a “Let it Burn” attitude towards it. I know I’d supply the match.
     
    I was a bit active in theater in high school and college but didn’t go on because it was perfectly clear back in the 50s and 60s that show biz was a gay and Jewish thing.

    I think the result is that a lot of theatrical genius has been lost. Where is our Shakespeare today?

    Bear in mind the theater had an even lower social reputation back in Shakespeare’s day, though poets had a relatively high one.

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  166. @Sunbeam
    You are evading his contention.

    Cool McCool wrote:

    "Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other’s “P for Play” marketing plans? Should these “play by the secret rules” kids be urged to “come out” or be outed? Do they get a “get out of National Shame free” card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we’ll always be sprouting more Harvey’s."

    What he is saying is big, it is epic, and it is self-explanatory: Virtually everyone who appears in a Hollywood film, male or female, put out to get where they are. In Catch-22 fashion, if they didn't, they don't have the gold ring now.

    Prove or disprove it. Ignore it if you wish. But you know your audience and they aren't the type to be swayed by a clever quip or rejoinder (or Tweet).

    There is apparently a "fake" interview with Brad Pitt out there, where he ruminates on the movie business. Fake Brad apparently said something like "They have a casting call and 1000 people apply. Out of that, probably 100 would work for the role. How do you select among that 100?"

    I have a theory that you California guys are too close to this business (Hollywood). It is pretty common in the rest of America to find a "Let it Burn" attitude towards it. I know I'd supply the match.

    And as at least one poster has repeatedly stated, you have been pretty silent on the Kevin Spacey situation. Or for a blast from the recent past, what about Travolta? There was lots of interesting stuff to apply Haven Monahan's Razor to in that situation.

    You know sometimes I wonder. I read this site, and I see all kinds of things about reaction times, Word Sums, Fields Medals, blah, blah, blah.

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today's world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain't no such thing as nurture.

    Yet Hollywood is a world made by their hands. And it is a stinking pile of poo. What's more, their movies suck, even the "brainy" ones.

    What's up with that?

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today’s world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain’t no such thing as nurture.

    Is it intelligence, or cronyism? Members of the tribe all looking out for one another. Once a few Jews break in the industry, they only hire other Jews. That’s how they come to dominate Wall Street, law offices, the media, academia, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, the DNC, lobbying industry, the Deep state. Want to work in these institutions? Two criteria – go to the right school, and be Jewish.

    If it were intelligence, Hollywood wouldn’t be pumping out such trash year after year. The only movies that make money anymore are superhero movies and their sequels, nothing creative or original, just lots of violence and special effects. TV sitcoms today have the stupidest lines, no originality whatsoever and not even remotely funny. Reality shows have little to no creativity except delving into more dirt. Just look at the Kardashians. Creativity is long dead in Hollywood, just like in modern lit, modern art, all dominated by Jews.

    Indians are now taking a page out of their playbook in tech. Once an Indian becomes a manager in a dept., he only hires other Indians.

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    If it were intelligence, Hollywood wouldn’t be pumping out such trash year after year. The only movies that make money anymore are superhero movies and their sequels, nothing creative or original, just lots of violence and special effects.
     
    A lot of people in the film industry are fully aware that their success -- in terms of income, fame, and continued work opportunities -- depends upon the willingness to crank out profitable trash, while pretending to be enthusiastic about it. There's a considerable amount of self-contempt in all of this, at least among those reflective enough to have some lurking awareness of the bargains they've made to get to wherever they thought they wanted to be.

    It's difficult to say how many of these people have a legitimate but unrealized talent for better work, because there aren't many opportunities to demonstrate that. This doesn't seem like a recipe for psychological or moral well being. It's no surprise that this industry draws a lot of damaged people, and then damages them further.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Indians are now taking a page out of their playbook in tech. Once an Indian becomes a manager in a dept., he only hires other Indians.
     
    Ha! I'd wager the Indics were doing this back when the Jews were still illiterates.

    Anyway, is it Indians hiring Indians, or Gujaratis hiring Gujaratis, Punjabis hiring Punjabis, etc?
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  167. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Truth

    They both suck, but I somehow hate McG more, simply because he’s a big enough prick to have kept the retarded pseudonym of “McG’ instead of acting like a grownup and using his real name. Total ass.
     
    Well that's very interesting, whorefinder.

    rofl. We Wuz Kangz! logic

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  168. @guest
    It's obvious why it still sticks in people's minds (aside from the fact that they don't trust the mental faculties of Jack Palance): a) My Cousin Vinny isn't the type of movie, and b) aside from the occasional Judy Holiday in Born Yesterday, Tomei's isn't the type of role, that usually win Oscars.

    It's a clever little comedy, eminently unwatchable, but not checking off any of the usual Oscar boxes. They like to reward movies they're otherwise rewarding on smaller categories, too. So even if a performance in something like My Cousin Vinny is great, "Yeah, but it's My Cousin Vinny," is the thinking.

    Character actors and comedians get noticed the supporting categories, but the Oscars likes to honor the movies that are already winning in the smaller categories, too. Tomei was kinda sorta type cast, if you consider her previous role in Oscar (the Sly Stallone period farce, not to be confused with the awards ceremony) as a bratty Italian princess. But I don't think he appearance screams "funny character actress," so she doesn't get the benefit of that.

    Possessing possible leading-lady looks doesn't count for her, here. She doesn't get the benefit of playing against type in a funny "character" sort of part, firstly because that was her type (see Oscar). She wasn't yet starring in romances, I don't think. Also because awards like it when you degrade yourself, with a big nose or something. Walking around a one-horse town in garish Jersey Shore-type outfits is degrading, but not in the right way.

    Finally, being an Oscar winner of course influences whether or not you receive subsequent nominations. Not everyone gets exiled to Alaska to lead snow dogs like Cuba.

    Okay, but those are all reasons why the chances of winning an Oscar for My Cousin Vinny were low, so the fact that Marisa Tomei did win would suggest she was, indeed, pretty good in the movie to overcome the Oscar prejudices against funny, popular comedies.

    Anyway, instead of looking at highly successful movies like My Cousin Vinny, why not look for movies sunk by terrible performances from beautiful but obscure (before and after) actresses cast as leading ladies?

    For example, the 1983 movie “Breathless” had a number of good things going for it, including one of the livelier performances by Richard Gere (he was usually cast back then in flat affect roles that would go to Ryan Gosling today). But the leading lady, some pretty French girl, was completely amateurish.

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    BTW, My Cousin Vinny has been consistently lauded by lawyer bigwigs as one of the best movies for showing young lawyers about the realities and skills needed for real-world courtroom cases. Richard Posner and Antonin Scalia both praised the film, and its commonly placed in the top 10 of legal movies by lawyers, and bits are even shown to law school classes by professors. Vinny's cross-examination skills, his qualification of his gf as an expert, and his sowing the seeds of doubt in eye witness testimony are held up as the most realistic and admirable aspects of his legal abilities.

    Much like how Barney Miller was for many years voted by cops as the most realistic of police shows.
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  169. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/EgSophie/status/925916754911596550

    It’s like she’s allergic to reality.

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  170. Lurker says:
    @BB753
    It didn't seem depressing to Marissa Tomei when it happened. You'd be surprised to find out what women will do for a job, any kind of job, let alone a good part in a Hollywood movie.
    I bet there are fewer than 10 women in all of Hollywood who have evaded the casting couch, A and B-listers.

    It’s depressing for me though!

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  171. guest says:
    @guest
    It's obvious why it still sticks in people's minds (aside from the fact that they don't trust the mental faculties of Jack Palance): a) My Cousin Vinny isn't the type of movie, and b) aside from the occasional Judy Holiday in Born Yesterday, Tomei's isn't the type of role, that usually win Oscars.

    It's a clever little comedy, eminently unwatchable, but not checking off any of the usual Oscar boxes. They like to reward movies they're otherwise rewarding on smaller categories, too. So even if a performance in something like My Cousin Vinny is great, "Yeah, but it's My Cousin Vinny," is the thinking.

    Character actors and comedians get noticed the supporting categories, but the Oscars likes to honor the movies that are already winning in the smaller categories, too. Tomei was kinda sorta type cast, if you consider her previous role in Oscar (the Sly Stallone period farce, not to be confused with the awards ceremony) as a bratty Italian princess. But I don't think he appearance screams "funny character actress," so she doesn't get the benefit of that.

    Possessing possible leading-lady looks doesn't count for her, here. She doesn't get the benefit of playing against type in a funny "character" sort of part, firstly because that was her type (see Oscar). She wasn't yet starring in romances, I don't think. Also because awards like it when you degrade yourself, with a big nose or something. Walking around a one-horse town in garish Jersey Shore-type outfits is degrading, but not in the right way.

    Finally, being an Oscar winner of course influences whether or not you receive subsequent nominations. Not everyone gets exiled to Alaska to lead snow dogs like Cuba.

    Whoops, I just noticed I put “unwatchable” when I meant “re-watchable.” Totally opposite meaning.

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  172. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    Okay, but those are all reasons why the chances of winning an Oscar for My Cousin Vinny were low, so the fact that Marisa Tomei did win would suggest she was, indeed, pretty good in the movie to overcome the Oscar prejudices against funny, popular comedies.

    Anyway, instead of looking at highly successful movies like My Cousin Vinny, why not look for movies sunk by terrible performances from beautiful but obscure (before and after) actresses cast as leading ladies?

    For example, the 1983 movie "Breathless" had a number of good things going for it, including one of the livelier performances by Richard Gere (he was usually cast back then in flat affect roles that would go to Ryan Gosling today). But the leading lady, some pretty French girl, was completely amateurish.

    BTW, My Cousin Vinny has been consistently lauded by lawyer bigwigs as one of the best movies for showing young lawyers about the realities and skills needed for real-world courtroom cases. Richard Posner and Antonin Scalia both praised the film, and its commonly placed in the top 10 of legal movies by lawyers, and bits are even shown to law school classes by professors. Vinny’s cross-examination skills, his qualification of his gf as an expert, and his sowing the seeds of doubt in eye witness testimony are held up as the most realistic and admirable aspects of his legal abilities.

    Much like how Barney Miller was for many years voted by cops as the most realistic of police shows.

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  173. @AM

    Canadian psychologist Jordan B. Petersen said in one of his videos, that the SM novel Fifty Shades of Grey was the fastetst selling novel ever – and it is being bought mostly by women.
     
    Okay, fastest selling. Overall? Hmm...

    I read romance novels at one point in my life. You want to know the novel that they put out ever month, in those places that sell romance novels by the pound?

    Billionaire Greek marries his secretary. Every single month for years. I assume they just switch out the covers at some to save time.

    Fantasy=fantasy. Real life is a whole another ball of yarn.

    If you don't think you need to be billionaire, over worked Greek (Italian), who just needs a women to fill out his workaholic life, let's not go down the road that beating up women is exactly they want. Rape fantasy is out there as a genre. It might be out there more as entertainment has had to devolve into sensationalism to try to attract eyeballs. But it's not even close to universal. If you find a woman who really digs being beat up, you've found yourself a mess of problems, including a woman who is unlikely to be a half decent Mother.

    Agreed – as I wrote in my first comment: Petersen is talking about fantasies. And the billionaire is one of the five most popular (Nr. 3, if I remember right). The other ones are also telling: Werwolf, Vampire, Pirate. Petersen goes on to name the most common denominator of the most popular porn-fantasies of women: Dominance on the men’s side – power – – and being dominated on the women’s side.

    - And then there is this weird fact that Pat Boyle mentions above – :That chimps beat females at times right before intercourse, and that those females get pregnant more often – I know, I know, we are no chimps… but at the moment I think that way (= we are no chimps) , I can’t help but to remember, what Petersen says about the most popular porn-fantasies of women.

    (See?)

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    "- and that weird fact that chimps beat the females at times right before intercourse, and that those females get pregnant more often –"

    The cynic in me wonders if it happens with humans as well.

    Any cops here? Domestic violence cases usually have a lot of kids running around?
    , @kihowi
    Isn't it curious how women are infatuated with the kind of men who beat their women with relish (muslims, blacks), and despise those who genuinely believe in "nonviolence" and "equality" (nerdy white men)?

    I'd almost draw a conclusion from that.
    , @mobi

    - And then there is this weird fact that Pat Boyle mentions above – :That chimps beat females at times right before intercourse, and that those females get pregnant more often – I know, I know, we are no chimps… but at the moment I think that way (= we are no chimps) , I can’t help but to remember, what Petersen says about the most popular porn-fantasies of women.
     
    Tangentially:

    Meredith Chivers is a creator of bonobo pornography. She is a 36-year-old psychology professor at Queen’s University in the small city of Kingston, Ontario, a highly regarded scientist and a member of the editorial board of the world’s leading journal of sexual research, Archives of Sexual Behavior... She found footage of bonobos, a species of ape, as they mated...She showed the short movie to men and women, straight and gay. To the same subjects, she also showed clips of heterosexual sex, male and female homosexual sex, a man masturbating, a woman masturbating, a chiseled man walking naked on a beach and a well-toned woman doing calisthenics in the nude.
     

    While the subjects watched on a computer screen, Chivers...measured their arousal in two ways, objectively and subjectively...The genitals of the volunteers were connected to plethysmographs — for the men, an apparatus that fits over the penis and gauges its swelling; for the women, a little plastic probe that sits in the vagina and, by bouncing light off the vaginal walls, measures genital blood flow. An engorgement of blood spurs a lubricating process called vaginal transudation: the seeping of moisture through the walls. The participants were also given a keypad so that they could rate how aroused they felt.

     


    The men, on average, responded genitally in what Chivers terms “category specific” ways. Males who identified themselves as straight swelled while gazing at heterosexual or lesbian sex and while watching the masturbating and exercising women. They were mostly unmoved when the screen displayed only men. Gay males were aroused in the opposite categorical pattern. Any expectation that the animal sex would speak to something primitive within the men seemed to be mistaken; neither straights nor gays were stirred by the bonobos. And for the male participants, the subjective ratings on the keypad matched the readings of the plethysmograph. The men’s minds and genitals were in agreement.
     

    All was different with the women. No matter what their self-proclaimed sexual orientation, they showed, on the whole, strong and swift genital arousal when the screen offered men with men, women with women and women with men...their blood flow rose quickly — and markedly, though to a lesser degree than during all the human scenes except the footage of the ambling, strapping man — as they watched the apes. And with the women, especially the straight women, mind and genitals seemed scarcely to belong to the same person. The readings from the plethysmograph and the keypad weren’t in much accord....Whether straight or gay, the women claimed almost no arousal whatsoever while staring at the bonobos.
     
    Cue much 'hamster spinning' and PC rationalisations.

    Maybe, and there's much more to the article.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/magazine/25desire-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

    , @AM

    (See?)
     
    LOL! Fair enough. I have twitch with some of the women and violence theories that float around the alt-right. :)

    :That chimps beat females at times right before intercourse, and that those females get pregnant more often

     

    I'm gonna need more evidence on this than "The internet says so". I also had someone try to tell me dolphins had homosexual sex regularly (willing to concede whatever exception some random person has on video) in order to justify that homosexual sex is "natural". I didn't believe him either and he had no proof.

    From an energy conservation/survival point of view, it's pointless to have mating couples inflict damage on each other. (Or have sex with the same gender) Fighting does happen male to male, but usually most species are doing a bit of size up, rather than lots of actual damage.

    It strikes me as an urban myth, unless someone can dig up some research, and at that point, I'm happy to concede as something I didn't know.

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  174. Sunbeam says:
    @Dieter Kief
    Agreed - as I wrote in my first comment: Petersen is talking about fantasies. And the billionaire is one of the five most popular (Nr. 3, if I remember right). The other ones are also telling: Werwolf, Vampire, Pirate. Petersen goes on to name the most common denominator of the most popular porn-fantasies of women: Dominance on the men's side - power - - and being dominated on the women's side.

    - And then there is this weird fact that Pat Boyle mentions above - :That chimps beat females at times right before intercourse, and that those females get pregnant more often - I know, I know, we are no chimps... but at the moment I think that way (= we are no chimps) , I can't help but to remember, what Petersen says about the most popular porn-fantasies of women.

    (See?)

    “- and that weird fact that chimps beat the females at times right before intercourse, and that those females get pregnant more often –”

    The cynic in me wonders if it happens with humans as well.

    Any cops here? Domestic violence cases usually have a lot of kids running around?

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    Any cops here? Domestic violence cases usually have a lot of kids running around?
     
    Actual domestic abusers never want for domestic situations to abuse.

    Most women who are "abused" seek out violent men who will abuse them. Their past will be littered with such relationships, as well as instances where they rejected a bunch of non-abusers as not being "sexy" enough.

    Violent angry men are catnip to most women.
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  175. @22pp22
    Off topic. Question to fellow Sailerites from a non-American.

    How much danger is Trump in?

    Not political danger, but he has had to fight his own party in addition to the Democrats and a very partisan media. He will move the Overton Window if he can get a wall and some form of immigration restriction passed. The Democrats are still in a state of denial and are currently relying on a biased media to hurt him, which is not working.

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  176. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/EgSophie/status/925916754911596550

    … and today a Goyboy was put forward as the next head of the Fed. Add to that the current war on Jewish men exercising (exorcising?) their heterosexuality and we have something of a trend forming.

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  177. whorefinder says: • Website
    @DWright
    The english actor Thomas Hardy has been prodded about his alleged homosexuality.
    He responded at one point that all those in his business, including men, put out to get the work.
    The way he stated it was as a matter of known fact and why are we choosing to believe otherwise.

    More to the point, he made the point that the whole business is a bunch of whores.

    Hardy made a similar honest statement about steroid use in Hollywood.

    Hardy played Bane in the Batman film The Dark Knight Rises (the capper to the Christopher Nolan trilogy), and someone point blank asked him in an interview if he used steroids to buff up for that role and some other role where he played a bareknuckle boxer.

    Hardy’s response was a very sarcastic, “Oh, no, I just worked out and ate right for three months and magically became as buff as a 10-year-verteran bodybuilder. What the heck do you think?”

    I’ve liked Hardy’s work since he played the bad guy/Picard’s clone son Shinzon in the final Next Generation move Star Trek: Nemesis even though most of the movie is crap. Thought Hardy played an excellent bad guy in a movie that didn’t deserve him, and his final death scene was great.

    Anyway a few years ago there a was brief moment where it came out that steroid use was rampant in the rap community, which made sense, given how so many rappers were appearing shirtless and looking like they spent years in the Mr. Universe competition (for example, I remember the now-bankrupt 50 Cent’s name being tossed around in the scandal). It was quickly hushed up and flushed down the memory hole because the music labels need the majority of their rappers to look like hard bad boys in order to sell records, rather than the music geek wusses most of them are.

    Almost every superhero movie now contains an obligatory shot of the male protagonist with his shirt off showing off a body building look or else a Brad Pitt from Fight Club physique. Heck, even Ant Man had one. This goes back to Sam Raimi’s first Spiderman. It’s all pretty gay, and also pretty obvious these dudes are on juice.

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    "It's all pretty gay" Perhaps, but obviously you don't follow Bronze Age Pevert's Twitter. Nude bodybuilders are the last hope of white survival.

    As for the topic at hand, no one should be shocked by any of this of course. White men in power use their influence to procure women as well, though admittedly the WeinsSTINEs and Ratners are more perverted and degenerate. Still the end result is the same.
    , @Jack D
    What about Putin? Russian doctors are not exactly averse to performance enhancing drugs...
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  178. @Cool McCool
    And now Dustin Hoffman!

    The 800 pound gorilla in the room are the men and women who actually partook in surrendering the pink for a plumb role. You might be able to identify them by their deafening silence about now.

    To be absolutely fair, I strongly doubt Harvey’s boldness was all self-generated. Quite a few girls took him up on his offer, and a few benefitted tremendously for it.

    To get on the right track for speculation, think of the guys and gals who seemed to come out of nowhere, and get plumb roles, featured, and especially leading. To make picking easier, who won an Oscar that left you scratching your head? Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough! Cough-dufus-jennifer-cough—lawrence-sniff! Whew! I think I’m allergic to something.

    Anyway, are these folks active facilitators of Harvey’s and other's "P for Play" marketing plans? Should these "play by the secret rules" kids be urged to "come out" or be outed? Do they get a "get out of National Shame free" card? Should they?

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we'll always be sprouting more Harvey's.

    Seems as long as those types keep playing, we’ll always be sprouting more Harvey’s.

    That’s the point of BEING a Harvey.

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  179. kihowi says:

    This perpetual rediscovering of what our great-grandparents all knew is getting tiresome. Jews are sexually depraved, actresses are whores, theater is where they meet up. These ideas have saturated literature for centuries, the further back the more explicit. Then after WWII they mysteriously disappear.

    READ OLD BOOKS

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    In Ancient Rome actresses were regarded as equal in social status to prostitutes. This was no accident. They have always been society's whores and will always be society's whores.
    , @AM

    This perpetual rediscovering of what our great-grandparents all knew is getting tiresome.
     
    If you can help it along anyway, despite the tediousness, I'd be grateful. It wasn't that long ago that I dismissed all the old stereotypes as "unadvanced" or some such BS.

    It was quite the intellectual shift to comprehend that my ancestors not only were smarter the me, they were a great deal more observant, too.

    It's so much easier, though, to process history once the framework is something like: "People - they weren't evil, black hearted special needs cases when they noticed that other people were different/immoral." It's nice to be able to tackle Shakespeare without the usual mincing and apologies over the Merchant of Venice and occasionally Othello.
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  180. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Thea
    OT

    Donna Brazile just threw Clinton, ugly Debbie and Obama under the bus. Does she know something? I thought Obama was beyond reproach so this seems new.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

    Donna the Thief?

    The Left is truly ridiculous when it comes to trust. You can lie, cheat, steal, assault, etc., but so long as you do it for leftist causes, the Left will proclaim you trustworthy. Which makes it all the more delicious when they are shocked, SHOCKED when said liar/cheater/thief/assaulter turns around and tabs them in the back.

    That Brazile is given some kind of gravitas by the left after literally stealing from her employer (CNN) to give Hillary the questions in a debate before hand—too hilariously dumb.

    Sociopaths never think that they themselves can be played, it’s always everyone else who’s the sucker. Which makes socios the biggest suckers of them all, once you realize how to con them.

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    That Brazile is given some kind of gravitas by the left after literally stealing from her employer (CNN) to give Hillary the questions in a debate before hand—too hilariously dumb.
     
    Yeah, but she's Black and Gay, so she's got a few Pokemon points to ward off criticism that she's just another political whore.

    It is interesting how many are abandoning the good ship Clinton. Their time may be up even if HRC does not know, or acknowledge, it yet.
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  181. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Sunbeam
    "- and that weird fact that chimps beat the females at times right before intercourse, and that those females get pregnant more often –"

    The cynic in me wonders if it happens with humans as well.

    Any cops here? Domestic violence cases usually have a lot of kids running around?

    Any cops here? Domestic violence cases usually have a lot of kids running around?

    Actual domestic abusers never want for domestic situations to abuse.

    Most women who are “abused” seek out violent men who will abuse them. Their past will be littered with such relationships, as well as instances where they rejected a bunch of non-abusers as not being “sexy” enough.

    Violent angry men are catnip to most women.

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  182. AM says:
    @SimpleSong
    Yeah in many ways the Amish are pretty incredible. They have a TFR > 6, I believe, and while other subgroups in the US may have TFRs that high they mostly manage it by welfare state parasitism. The Amish do this while earning their own bread, however. They successfully compete in commercial farming, a risky, low margin business, while eschewing much modern technology. I expect if there was a nuclear war they would inherit what was left of the earth.

    Mormons are doing OK too, and not just in the demographics department: I note that Kip Thorne, the most recent physics Nobel laureate (and very deserving) is a Jack Mormon. However I think they are in a lot of danger right now because they don't realize the secret to their sauce: they keep trying to convert Africans and other rabble to their religion, and they keep trying to earn the approval of the American public at large. If they don't take a deep breath and back away from the Universalism they're going to end up like the other Christian faiths.

    If they don’t take a deep breath and back away from the Universalism they’re going to end up like the other Christian faiths.

    At one point, Catholic families were known for breeding like rabbits and insisting that Catholicism belonged to every nation on earth. The word Catholic means “universal” in Greek.

    I know it doesn’t look like it in the modern era, but low fertility rates and the concept that morality applies to everyone have no relationship to each other. And nothing in Christianity says: import foreigners on government because “nice”. It says go out to all nations.

    Anyway, Mormonism pre-1970 was quite adamant that blackness was curse and no blacks were allowed to be leaders, even though they allowed conversions.

    Mormonism has a very strong family centered culture, on based on respectability. I suspect most people would not be thrilled to be on regular rotation of hosting home worship services, despite admiring the lifestyle.

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  183. Svigor says:

    Don’t forget Kevin Spacey’s a boy-buggerer. Nobody saw that one coming.

    Cosby, Weinstein, Toback, Ratner, Bloom, Spacey…

    Is there a WHAM (White Heterosexual American Male) in the lot? Oh, right, O’Reilly. Small potatoes, but they get to say “O’Reilly.” Knew we shouldn’ta made the Irish white.

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  184. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Flip
    I have a young Jewish female friend who claims that Jewish men are more perverted than Gentiles and with a higher percentage of homosexuality. I wondered to her if that was a result of Ashkenazi inbreeding, and she thought that was a possibility.

    I wondered to her if that was a result of Ashkenazi inbreeding, and she thought that was a possibility.

    Yeah, I have a comment about that in moderation. Inbreeding increases sexual perversion, at least as far as I can see. Gays who successfully go through conversion therapy and marry members of the opposite sex tend to marry people of different races from themselves, and it’s probably related to their genes needed massive outbreeding to overcome the programmed perversion.

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  185. kihowi says:
    @Dieter Kief
    Agreed - as I wrote in my first comment: Petersen is talking about fantasies. And the billionaire is one of the five most popular (Nr. 3, if I remember right). The other ones are also telling: Werwolf, Vampire, Pirate. Petersen goes on to name the most common denominator of the most popular porn-fantasies of women: Dominance on the men's side - power - - and being dominated on the women's side.

    - And then there is this weird fact that Pat Boyle mentions above - :That chimps beat females at times right before intercourse, and that those females get pregnant more often - I know, I know, we are no chimps... but at the moment I think that way (= we are no chimps) , I can't help but to remember, what Petersen says about the most popular porn-fantasies of women.

    (See?)

    Isn’t it curious how women are infatuated with the kind of men who beat their women with relish (muslims, blacks), and despise those who genuinely believe in “nonviolence” and “equality” (nerdy white men)?

    I’d almost draw a conclusion from that.

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  186. mobi says:
    @Dieter Kief
    Agreed - as I wrote in my first comment: Petersen is talking about fantasies. And the billionaire is one of the five most popular (Nr. 3, if I remember right). The other ones are also telling: Werwolf, Vampire, Pirate. Petersen goes on to name the most common denominator of the most popular porn-fantasies of women: Dominance on the men's side - power - - and being dominated on the women's side.

    - And then there is this weird fact that Pat Boyle mentions above - :That chimps beat females at times right before intercourse, and that those females get pregnant more often - I know, I know, we are no chimps... but at the moment I think that way (= we are no chimps) , I can't help but to remember, what Petersen says about the most popular porn-fantasies of women.

    (See?)

    - And then there is this weird fact that Pat Boyle mentions above – :That chimps beat females at times right before intercourse, and that those females get pregnant more often – I know, I know, we are no chimps… but at the moment I think that way (= we are no chimps) , I can’t help but to remember, what Petersen says about the most popular porn-fantasies of women.

    Tangentially:

    Meredith Chivers is a creator of bonobo pornography. She is a 36-year-old psychology professor at Queen’s University in the small city of Kingston, Ontario, a highly regarded scientist and a member of the editorial board of the world’s leading journal of sexual research, Archives of Sexual Behavior… She found footage of bonobos, a species of ape, as they mated…She showed the short movie to men and women, straight and gay. To the same subjects, she also showed clips of heterosexual sex, male and female homosexual sex, a man masturbating, a woman masturbating, a chiseled man walking naked on a beach and a well-toned woman doing calisthenics in the nude.

    While the subjects watched on a computer screen, Chivers…measured their arousal in two ways, objectively and subjectively…The genitals of the volunteers were connected to plethysmographs — for the men, an apparatus that fits over the penis and gauges its swelling; for the women, a little plastic probe that sits in the vagina and, by bouncing light off the vaginal walls, measures genital blood flow. An engorgement of blood spurs a lubricating process called vaginal transudation: the seeping of moisture through the walls. The participants were also given a keypad so that they could rate how aroused they felt.

    The men, on average, responded genitally in what Chivers terms “category specific” ways. Males who identified themselves as straight swelled while gazing at heterosexual or lesbian sex and while watching the masturbating and exercising women. They were mostly unmoved when the screen displayed only men. Gay males were aroused in the opposite categorical pattern. Any expectation that the animal sex would speak to something primitive within the men seemed to be mistaken; neither straights nor gays were stirred by the bonobos. And for the male participants, the subjective ratings on the keypad matched the readings of the plethysmograph. The men’s minds and genitals were in agreement.

    All was different with the women. No matter what their self-proclaimed sexual orientation, they showed, on the whole, strong and swift genital arousal when the screen offered men with men, women with women and women with men…their blood flow rose quickly — and markedly, though to a lesser degree than during all the human scenes except the footage of the ambling, strapping man — as they watched the apes. And with the women, especially the straight women, mind and genitals seemed scarcely to belong to the same person. The readings from the plethysmograph and the keypad weren’t in much accord….Whether straight or gay, the women claimed almost no arousal whatsoever while staring at the bonobos.

    Cue much ‘hamster spinning’ and PC rationalisations.

    Maybe, and there’s much more to the article.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/magazine/25desire-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

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  187. Svigor says:

    Oh, damn, I forgot the NPR Jew! That one is clearly an antisemitic pogrom; what are the odds that a perp at NPR would be Jewish? They just HAPPENED to accuse an NPR guy and he turns out to be a Jew? Coincidence? I…think…not!

    All kidding aside, the Weinstein Thing is way beyond the threshold of antisemitic pogrom. Time for the ADL to move in, SERIOUSLY.

    Could you imagine ‘Bye Jews’?

    Say it in the mirror until it feels right. It works.

    Hah j/k Jews.

    Man this Weinstein Thing just keeps on givin’. Corey Feldman is probably shopping real estate right now.

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    Well, the ADL is caught between two canards.

    One canard is that Jewish men are more horrible toward women than anybody else.

    The other canard is that Jews control Hollywood and the media.

    But the good majority of the men being accused of sexual harassment and sexual assault are Jews.

    So is that true only because Jews way outnumber others in Hollywood and the media, or because Jewish men are way more likely to be horrible to women?

    Which is it, ADL? Choose your canard -- you can have only one!
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  188. Svigor says:

    I’m eating cream cheese and lox on bagels right now.

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  189. AM says:
    @Dieter Kief
    Agreed - as I wrote in my first comment: Petersen is talking about fantasies. And the billionaire is one of the five most popular (Nr. 3, if I remember right). The other ones are also telling: Werwolf, Vampire, Pirate. Petersen goes on to name the most common denominator of the most popular porn-fantasies of women: Dominance on the men's side - power - - and being dominated on the women's side.

    - And then there is this weird fact that Pat Boyle mentions above - :That chimps beat females at times right before intercourse, and that those females get pregnant more often - I know, I know, we are no chimps... but at the moment I think that way (= we are no chimps) , I can't help but to remember, what Petersen says about the most popular porn-fantasies of women.

    (See?)

    (See?)

    LOL! Fair enough. I have twitch with some of the women and violence theories that float around the alt-right. :)

    :That chimps beat females at times right before intercourse, and that those females get pregnant more often

    I’m gonna need more evidence on this than “The internet says so”. I also had someone try to tell me dolphins had homosexual sex regularly (willing to concede whatever exception some random person has on video) in order to justify that homosexual sex is “natural”. I didn’t believe him either and he had no proof.

    From an energy conservation/survival point of view, it’s pointless to have mating couples inflict damage on each other. (Or have sex with the same gender) Fighting does happen male to male, but usually most species are doing a bit of size up, rather than lots of actual damage.

    It strikes me as an urban myth, unless someone can dig up some research, and at that point, I’m happy to concede as something I didn’t know.

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    It strikes me as an urban myth, unless someone can dig up some research, and at that point, I’m happy to concede as something I didn’t know.
     
    Try here and at the related and quite interesting comment No. 185 - written by Mobi:

    https://www.livescience.com/48743-aggressive-chimps-reproduce-more.html
    , @Pat Boyle
    I'm sorry. I assumed that anyone who read my remarks about chimps would have been familiar with chimp beatings and chimp fertility. It has been known for at least a decade from the work of Jane Goodall and others. It isn't controversial. It may turn out, of course, to have been incorrect. But I didn't just make it up or quote some Web loony.

    I have occasionally cited as a fact something - and was wrong. I try now to be more careful. If you had checked, you would have found millions of references to the observation of male chimp violence and increased fertility, in less than a second. As I said it isn't an obscure observation.
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  190. AM says:
    @Olorin

    More targets for the Femquisition. Men are men. Testosterone makes us act that way.
     
    Speak for yourself, degenerate.

    OMG! I can’t believe I had to debase and lower myself when I was younger by sucking off or massaging that old fat Jewish guy w back hair! Ewwwwww!
     
    Non-degenerate men don't think like this...and do a pretty good job of keeping our daughters from forming character that would allow them to go there When Younger. In fact our daughters would react to such a thing not with "I have to do this" but deployment of molecular separation devices. If they were hellbent on becoming entertainers in the first place, which isn't likely.

    Non-degenerate men also support women who wake up from their former degeneracy and guide them into better possibilities going forward. Even if we do consider the Current Year to be a tad on the hysterical side.

    Of course that assumes we know how to handle women and their emotions/reactions.

    But I guess virtue signalling about the manliness of abusing the topiary, as well as oneself, is more important than warning younger people from experience about degeneracy. So either Rosie the Regretter is going to have to step to the plate and take back their nights, or we're going to have to import some brown people to do the cleanup that American men won't do.

    now that a dog pile is forming….
     
    TMI about Hollywood.

    In fact our daughters would react to such a thing not with “I have to do this” but deployment of molecular separation devices. If they were hellbent on becoming entertainers in the first place, which isn’t likely.

    This is a daughter properly raised. :)

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    I'm sure your daughters would never do this, but strictly raised Catholic girl leaves home, goes wild is a thing.
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  191. Svigor says:

    Now maybe there is not much good around in our ruling class and they all deserve to be burned but if you look at the history of places that have been through a bonfire of the vanities, it is not encouraging – what comes next is usually even worse. If you don’t like our current ruling class you will like their replacements even less. Those three psych professors may be standard issue liberals but they are white men who received real educations and have some shreds of decency. Their replacements will surely be transgender mulattoes/Latinxes who think of nothing but hating whitey all day long and care nothing for whitey norms like decency and fairness.

    *The World’s Smallest Violin plays for the current ruling class*

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  192. Old Left says:
    @Pat Boyle
    There is a lot of loony posturing over the Hollywood casting couch scandals of Harvey Weinstein. But certain truths are ignored. Much as I hate to get involved in this dispute, it falls to me to set a couple facts straight.

    Harvey Weinstein is a Jew. This has allowed many of the anti-Semites who lurk hereabouts to reveal themselves. This is a Hollywood scandal and Hollywood is a Jewish company town. If there were a pervert or sexual predator in Hollywood who wasn't Jewish - how likely would that be? There don't seem to be any accusations about the Amish, the Sherpas or the Montagnard Boat People. Finding Jews in Hollywood doesn't prove much.

    It is possible that the Jews are especially vile towards women - that they are a clan of rapists. But I've never heard of that in all the movies that Jews have made about themselves. On these sort of issues my go-to authority is Steve Sailer. So what is it Steve? Are Jews preternaturally obsessed with sex - and act on their obsessions?

    If you look at rape statistics the race you would expect those who are 'bad' with women would be Africans and African Americans. The religion of rapists would be Muslims. Jews just don't show up prominently in the public sex crime statistics.

    I'm not in the movie industry but I have spent a lot of my life involved in Opera. It is not unusual for young women to acquire a role in opera through their sexual charms. I suspect that this sort of thing has gone on in Italian Opera for centuries. There are some parts that almost no one can sing (e.g. The Queen of the Night) and there are others that Mozart wrote such that almost any girl with any kind of voice could handle (e.g. Susana or Cherubino in Le Nozze). How is an impresario to choose among the hundreds of young women who show up at the auditions? You know the answer to that question.

    Weinstein didn't invent the practice of taking advantage of girls who want to play dress up and go on the stage.

    Now for something a little more controversial. Girls like to be abused. Not all and not in all cases, but in human beings many females long for a 'strong' man to control them. This is the unspoken secret - that women like men who take advantage of them. Read Richard Feynman's books. He discovered that he was more successful with women at bars when he treated them badly. Or you could just look at the ads on the Web. Hundreds of thousands of women advertise that they want to be tied up and beaten by a 'strong' man. Contrary to the notions of accepted society, a taste for BDSM is far more common than either homosexuality or transgenderism.

    Females who sexually respond to being abused are probably acting out patterns laid down before humans were human. Chimpanzees (our closest relatives) behave this way. The female chimps usually get beaten up by the male chimp as part of their mating rituals. Not all females get beaten by their male but those that do seem to become more fertile. They have more baby chimps. If you know anything of Darwin you can see where that leads. Females who are beaten, out-breed those who escaped that fate, and come to dominate the gene pool. This does not seem to be the pattern among bonobos - but we descend from chimps not bonobos.

    Most of the girls who have been victimized by Hollywood producers knew exactly what they were getting in to. Those that didn't were possibly not the smartest ones. As Henry Kissinger discovered - power is sexy. A fat ugly middle aged Jew can get young girls - ever was it so.

    Weinstein didn’t invent the practice of taking advantage of girls who want to play dress up and go on the stage.

    Exactly. And what the Jew haters recently turned feminists are missing is that this scandal is a power play by female execs (many of them Jewish!) within Hollywood.
    This moral panic is aimed at men in general. And the outcome will be to empower frigid, ball-busting harpies everywhere.

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    So what? Alienating women from Hollywood is a net positive for the rest of us.
    , @Pat Boyle
    You seem to not like women very much.

    I had a very powerful female boss when I was young and in the Civil Service. She later went to the Pentagon as some sort of top bureaucrat. She was a 300 pound redhead whom everyone was afraid of. But when she tried to intimidate me I started speaking Algebra. She - like many women - was hopeless at math. She got nervous and ordered me out of her office. We kept our distance from each other after that.
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  193. Yak-15 says:
    @kihowi
    This perpetual rediscovering of what our great-grandparents all knew is getting tiresome. Jews are sexually depraved, actresses are whores, theater is where they meet up. These ideas have saturated literature for centuries, the further back the more explicit. Then after WWII they mysteriously disappear.

    READ OLD BOOKS

    In Ancient Rome actresses were regarded as equal in social status to prostitutes. This was no accident. They have always been society’s whores and will always be society’s whores.

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  194. @Titus
    If you ask any Ashkenazi, they will tell you emphatically that they are ethnically not white.

    In determining someones race, I tend to go by appearance, and my appearance radar tells me most European Jews are at least 50 percent white. And this theory that Jewish film producers are getting revenge on northern Europeans by sexually harassing their women sounds bonkers. The Hollywood producers with the biggest fetish for WASP blonds are gentiles like Hitchcock and Eastwood, and a lot of Hollywood Jews probably have more WASP blood than many of the women they are harassing. Weinstein certainly looks whiter than the swarthy Italian model who triggered this current witch hunt.

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    And this theory that Jewish film producers are getting revenge on northern Europeans by sexually harassing their women sounds bonkers.
     
    It doesn't have to be revenge.

    Contempt is an easier standard to meet.

    Or even easier - the perception that's there's less need to show respect to 'the other' (pretty universal, that).

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  195. Svigor says:

    Pat Boyle says:
    November 2, 2017 at 5:33 pm GMT • 600 Words

    You lost the plot, old boy. And with the 88th comment! *tsk*

    We’re talking about Big Media Jews here. You know; rich, phony-leftist, uber-PC, full-of-shit Jews? They created the bloody narrative, the hostile feminazi narrative, that you’re railing against, you simpleton.

    Actually the technical name for Afro-Jews is “Jews.” The name for white Jews is “Jewish”, meaning “Jew-like.”

    Elaborate.

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  196. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/EgSophie/status/925916754911596550

    Ahh, Sophie Ellman-Golan. Another (((Fellow White))) who bravely confronts white womanhood (#33) by telling white women not to call the police when being menaced by “scary black men.”

    Don’t call the police. Don’t do it. How dare we choose as the enforcer of safety an institution that has demonstrated how deeply unsafe it is?

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    She's channeling Chandra Levy.
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  197. Svigor says:

    Exactly. And what the Jew haters recently turned feminists are missing is that this scandal is a power play by female execs (many of them Jewish!) within Hollywood.
    This moral panic is aimed at men in general. And the outcome will be to empower frigid, ball-busting harpies everywhere.

    Old left is suddenly turned manospherist, trying to appropriate alt-right technique, play the cuck card. Fails because feminism, white-knighting, etc., have nothing to do with it.

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  198. @Old Left

    Weinstein didn’t invent the practice of taking advantage of girls who want to play dress up and go on the stage.
     
    Exactly. And what the Jew haters recently turned feminists are missing is that this scandal is a power play by female execs (many of them Jewish!) within Hollywood.
    This moral panic is aimed at men in general. And the outcome will be to empower frigid, ball-busting harpies everywhere.

    So what? Alienating women from Hollywood is a net positive for the rest of us.

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  199. Svigor says:

    Exactly. And what the Jew haters recently turned feminists are missing is that this scandal is a power play by female execs (many of them Jewish!) within Hollywood.
    This moral panic is aimed at men in general. And the outcome will be to empower frigid, ball-busting harpies everywhere.

    Nope. It’s Hollywood’s name ringing out, Jews’ name ringing out. Not men’s. Nice concern trolling though.

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    Letting no crisis go to waste, the left will conflate Hollywood Jews accused of sexual harassment with white men generally. For the latter, their guilt resides not in what they have done but in who they are.

    It's starting already.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/nov/04/evidence-mounting-mans-place-in-home
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  200. Dissident says:
    @Jack D
    "Strong HBD" is a straw man. Everyone with any sense from ancient times until the present understood that man is a product of nature AND nurture. For lack of a better number, 50/50 is a good working estimate. The problem with the current year conventional wisdom is that they think that it is 100% nurture, 0% nature and if you say it's even 1% nature your a Nazi. That's even crazier than 0/100 but we don't have to pick either extreme.

    The problem with the current year conventional wisdom is that they think that it is 100% nurture, 0% nature and if you say it’s even 1% nature your a Nazi.

    They don’t say that when it comes to sexual orientation, though, do they? Much the complete opposite, in fact, no?

    The PC/Cult-Marx/SJW/Respectable orthodoxy insists not only that homosexuality is always, without exception innate but also that it is always and without exception immutable. And that anyone who challenges such doctrinal assertions is, of course, a hateful, “homophobic”, ignorant bigot. (To the point of criminalizing any form of therapy that attempts to steer an individual’s sexual orientation away from the same sex and toward the opposite sex.)[1]

    But the contradiction does not even end there. For the very same “experts”, arbiters and adjudicators then turn around and declare that one’s sex, i.e., whether one is male or female, is anything but immutable.

    Returning to the matter of sexual orientation: Even if both of the aforementioned doctrinal claims concerning sexual orientation, i.e., innateness and immutability, were correct, that would still leave the matter of voluntary behavior.

    [MORE]
    And here, as well, the authorities-in-question/ usual suspects contradict themselves and try to have it both ways, as I will proceed to demonstrate.

    First, orientation, i.e., feelings; attraction; desire is almost completely conflated with behavior. Then, the specific act of anal penetration (i.e., buggery) is conflated with male homosexuality, per se to the point that the terms “gay sex” or even just “sex”, when used without qualification in a male homosexual context, are simply understood to mean the specific act of anal penetration.

    What happens, however, when someone dares to express objection to said act or even merely to its whitewashing and normalization?
    (Whether on objective grounds, such as to point-out the less-than-wholesome anatomical, physiological, hygienic (GRAPHIC CONTENT) and public health realities of said act, the massive costs to the public that result from it, or on more subjective grounds, such as a personal revulsion to the act.)

    A typical response from “Gay” proponents is to point-out that anal penetration is neither an exclusively nor universally homosexual practice; that not all “Gay” men engage in it and “plenty” of hetereosexuals do.

    Many of these same very same propagandists, however, will then turn around and insist that only anal penetration can be considered true, full-fledged “Gay sex”. What about the not-insignificant number of self-avowed homosexual men who are less-than-comfortable with anal penetration or even eschew it entirely, you ask? They are simply “suffering from internalized homophobia” and “bringing homophobic baggage with them”. Self-avowed homosexual men who dare to emphatically reject and speak against the anal penetration and its centrality in Gay culture are villifed, mocked and denounced as self-loathing traitors.

    Dissident homosexual blogger Throbert McGee writes,

    Gay male culture TEACHES men that they should diligently practice and practice and practice until they start to enjoy the sensation of being anally penetrated — and believe you me, there’s quite a substantial learning curve involved! And then the culture encourages them to think that this is somehow encoded in their genes.

    [1] Cases that appear to completely contradict said claim of absolute immutability include, but are not limited-to, that of the wife of the current Mayor of New York City and, according to our host at least, that of John Maynard Keynes. The “experts”, arbiters, adjudicators and enforcers in-question, however, apparently feel themselves above any need to explain such apparently glaring contradictions to their sacred orthodoxy.

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  201. AM says:
    @kihowi
    This perpetual rediscovering of what our great-grandparents all knew is getting tiresome. Jews are sexually depraved, actresses are whores, theater is where they meet up. These ideas have saturated literature for centuries, the further back the more explicit. Then after WWII they mysteriously disappear.

    READ OLD BOOKS

    This perpetual rediscovering of what our great-grandparents all knew is getting tiresome.

    If you can help it along anyway, despite the tediousness, I’d be grateful. It wasn’t that long ago that I dismissed all the old stereotypes as “unadvanced” or some such BS.

    It was quite the intellectual shift to comprehend that my ancestors not only were smarter the me, they were a great deal more observant, too.

    It’s so much easier, though, to process history once the framework is something like: “People – they weren’t evil, black hearted special needs cases when they noticed that other people were different/immoral.” It’s nice to be able to tackle Shakespeare without the usual mincing and apologies over the Merchant of Venice and occasionally Othello.

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  202. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    Cough-cough-marisa-tomei-cough!

    Obviously, Dame Judy Dench or Vanessa Redgrave would have been better in My Cousin Vinny as the Jersey Shore girl who knows all about American cars.

    Steve’s got a thing for Marisa, I think

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    Me too. She could eat crackers in my bed.
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  203. Truth says:
    @MarcB.
    "The 800 pound gorilla in the room are the men and women who actually partook in surrendering the pink for a plumb role. You might be able to identify them by their deafening silence about now".

    Int the wake of the Cosby Scandal, Bill's high-powered entertainment industry enablers and pimps were glossed over, and the industry bosses without skeletons of their own are largely getting a pass this time around as well. My wife were discussing which of the Miramax girls developed powerhouse careers in the 1990's-2010's and are now conspicuously silent. The curious one's will be those with sustained movie and TV careers in the absence of big box office/ratings or critical praise. A trip down IMDB lane could shed some light on this.

    BTW, I've wondered for years why Natasha Henstridge's career stalled despite being among the hottest actresses of her generation. Her verbal acumen and demeanor belied a girl raised by a biker in an Alberta trailer park, although the favors she admitted to providing to Brett Ratner happen to fit that stereotype. I suspect she was black-balled by Ratner after things got awkward.

    BTW, I’ve wondered for years why Natasha Henstridge’s career stalled despite being among the hottest actresses of her generation.

    Genetic bad luck. some of them have a short window of being able to pass for chicks.

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    Truth, knowing your obsession with trannies.. Are you implying that Henstridge looks like a tranny since she turned thirty, or that she's an an actual transexual?
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  204. Lagertha says:
    @Cool McCool

    Weinstein, Toback, Ratner, Wieseltier, Halperin, Hoffman, Piven, Polanski. white male patriarchy at its worst
     
    The other 800 pound gorilla in the room. It ain’t "white folks." It’s cultural, and it’s a Jewish thing.

    Too many Jewish men have major issues with pretty women, especially shiksas. They like to defeat them. Some kind of mom issue? A cultural carry-over of Eastern European Jewish orthodoxy from generations ago, and old habits die hard? Someone here might have far better insight than me as to why. It’s just something I’ve noticed enough in the past to regard it as "a Jewish thing."

    It’s a pattern that’s certainly on display now. It’s just that nobody wants to say it, for some reason.

    I guess doing that is when the gloves really come off.

    Someone here might have far better insight than me as to why.

    Ok, I’ll take a shot: All the Jewish guys that were chasing me during the college and post college years (NYC) always mentioned my Nordic looks….it helped that I was funny and outgoing, so I was not an Ice Queen. Many of them told me that shiksas really represented the forbidden fruit…the kind their mommy told them to never eat (haha, that was bad!). Jewish men, from childhood are groomed by their mothers to revere women and be very focused on women. The men that I hung out with (tired of Jewish guys by 23) confessed that they both feared their mother but totally expected to please their mother and marry a proper Jewish woman.

    Check out this cover photo which really creeped-me-out, after all these years:

    https://www.nytimes.com/201/10/04/magazine/behind-the-cover-9-24-17-html

    years ago, a guy I really liked (sophomore year) said his fantasy was to have blonde haired kids with someone who looked like me, but that his mother would never let that happen…kid you not!

    This cover really pissed me off because NYT would never, ever put an African family, Middle Eastern family, Asian family, a Latino family with a woman’s naked butt and nipple exposed, with naked children in the background – even I was careful with sauna photos of my sons (getting into the internet) when they were little. What a double standard! And how disgustingly sexist. I’m shocked that the NYT does not see how unethical it is to put this naked woman and her children on the cover. And, the whole point of sauna is that it is a private ritual with either your spouse, family (children tend to not want family sauna around 12), or same sex group. I feel like the entire NYT editorial board was just salivating over this woman’s image – or, they were being their “inner/fantasy” Hefner.

    But, like that stupid guy I dumped after his bizarre drunken confession, the stereotype of naked Scandinavians, Estonians and Finns persists….and, ergo, maybe these Hollywood guys act like horn dogs because they see themselves as having power over women, or dissing their mothers finally, string of ex-wives late in their lives. Viagra was probably a bad thing, too.

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    I thought the sauna photo was pretty innocent - the idea was to show nudity as a natural part of a family vacation in another culture and not as something that is always sexual. Back in the day, the ONLY way you would see nudity in mainstream magazines WAS of African women (in National Geographic). Compared to what is a few clicks away on the internet, this was very tame.

    I feel like the entire NYT editorial board was just salivating over this woman’s image
     
    You are getting too worked up here. 1st of all, the entire NYT editorial board does not pick the magazine cover. The guy who does wrote the behind the cover article in which he explains his rationale and it is not to defile the blonde women of Northern Europe. Half the NYT Editorial board is gay and half are women so they are not exactly a bunch of Harvey Weinsteins.
    , @Antiwar7
    Corrected link: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/magazine/behind-the-cover-9-24-17.html
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  205. @Pat Boyle
    There is a lot of loony posturing over the Hollywood casting couch scandals of Harvey Weinstein. But certain truths are ignored. Much as I hate to get involved in this dispute, it falls to me to set a couple facts straight.

    Harvey Weinstein is a Jew. This has allowed many of the anti-Semites who lurk hereabouts to reveal themselves. This is a Hollywood scandal and Hollywood is a Jewish company town. If there were a pervert or sexual predator in Hollywood who wasn't Jewish - how likely would that be? There don't seem to be any accusations about the Amish, the Sherpas or the Montagnard Boat People. Finding Jews in Hollywood doesn't prove much.

    It is possible that the Jews are especially vile towards women - that they are a clan of rapists. But I've never heard of that in all the movies that Jews have made about themselves. On these sort of issues my go-to authority is Steve Sailer. So what is it Steve? Are Jews preternaturally obsessed with sex - and act on their obsessions?

    If you look at rape statistics the race you would expect those who are 'bad' with women would be Africans and African Americans. The religion of rapists would be Muslims. Jews just don't show up prominently in the public sex crime statistics.

    I'm not in the movie industry but I have spent a lot of my life involved in Opera. It is not unusual for young women to acquire a role in opera through their sexual charms. I suspect that this sort of thing has gone on in Italian Opera for centuries. There are some parts that almost no one can sing (e.g. The Queen of the Night) and there are others that Mozart wrote such that almost any girl with any kind of voice could handle (e.g. Susana or Cherubino in Le Nozze). How is an impresario to choose among the hundreds of young women who show up at the auditions? You know the answer to that question.

    Weinstein didn't invent the practice of taking advantage of girls who want to play dress up and go on the stage.

    Now for something a little more controversial. Girls like to be abused. Not all and not in all cases, but in human beings many females long for a 'strong' man to control them. This is the unspoken secret - that women like men who take advantage of them. Read Richard Feynman's books. He discovered that he was more successful with women at bars when he treated them badly. Or you could just look at the ads on the Web. Hundreds of thousands of women advertise that they want to be tied up and beaten by a 'strong' man. Contrary to the notions of accepted society, a taste for BDSM is far more common than either homosexuality or transgenderism.

    Females who sexually respond to being abused are probably acting out patterns laid down before humans were human. Chimpanzees (our closest relatives) behave this way. The female chimps usually get beaten up by the male chimp as part of their mating rituals. Not all females get beaten by their male but those that do seem to become more fertile. They have more baby chimps. If you know anything of Darwin you can see where that leads. Females who are beaten, out-breed those who escaped that fate, and come to dominate the gene pool. This does not seem to be the pattern among bonobos - but we descend from chimps not bonobos.

    Most of the girls who have been victimized by Hollywood producers knew exactly what they were getting in to. Those that didn't were possibly not the smartest ones. As Henry Kissinger discovered - power is sexy. A fat ugly middle aged Jew can get young girls - ever was it so.

    Women are generally less into sexual kinks than men, including BDSM. Way more men posting ads online asking to be tied up than women.

    Read women’s romance novels, There are fantasies about being taken advantage of but it involves sexy men, not old ugly obese men. I doubt of these actresses enjoyed having to deal with Weinstein and his ilk.

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    I read a woman's romance novel once. I was in the hospital and was going crazy with boredom. I was sick of TV so I asked them to bring me something to read . The nice accommodating nurses scoured the building but only managed to find two Nora Roberts romance novels. Ugh.

    A few years ago there was speculation that pornography and romance4 novels could be written by machine - some sort of word processor. I wonder if that ever happened? Roberts would likely be a customer if such a system exists.

    I've never seen an ad for a man to be tied up. Of course I haven't been looking for them either. In any case statistics on taboo subjects like BDSM are unreliable.
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  206. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Mnuchin was in business with Ratner.

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  207. mobi says:
    @unpc downunder
    In determining someones race, I tend to go by appearance, and my appearance radar tells me most European Jews are at least 50 percent white. And this theory that Jewish film producers are getting revenge on northern Europeans by sexually harassing their women sounds bonkers. The Hollywood producers with the biggest fetish for WASP blonds are gentiles like Hitchcock and Eastwood, and a lot of Hollywood Jews probably have more WASP blood than many of the women they are harassing. Weinstein certainly looks whiter than the swarthy Italian model who triggered this current witch hunt.

    And this theory that Jewish film producers are getting revenge on northern Europeans by sexually harassing their women sounds bonkers.

    It doesn’t have to be revenge.

    Contempt is an easier standard to meet.

    Or even easier – the perception that’s there’s less need to show respect to ‘the other’ (pretty universal, that).

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  208. @Anonymous
    The late Fred Gwynne was a great actor, wasn’t he? I used to watch the Munsters regularly as a kid. I would’ve never guessed that Herman Munster was from upper-class Tuxedo Park and educated at the exclusive Groton School and Harvard University. And served in WWII. A different era, when men were men.

    My Cousin Vinny has a number of really good character actors.

    I always liked the late Lane Smith and he was great as the prosecutor in MCV. Bruce McGill, D-Day from Animal House is also a great character actor.

    But Fred Gwynne really went out on a high note with his last role in MCV.

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    What about Austin Pendleton as the other defense lawyer?
    , @guest
    "What is a yute?"

    "Oh, excuse me your honor, two youths."

    Imagine if Vinny was a black. Very problematic.

    Aside from Vinny and his girlfriend, obviously, the center of the film is between Vinny and Gwynne, both of whom are playing what should be ridiculous stereotypes but aren't. I first saw it when I was a kid, and he was Gwynne was scary. But of course the Car 54/Munsters personality lingers below the surface.

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  209. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Look Jennifer Lawrence is a major talent and sadly also a troubled woman. I heard all about the "Fappening" pictures and that she has an alcohol problem. She is only 27 and has been in the acting business for a decade. Hopefully she finds her way and does not end up like Lindsay Lohan.

    Blake Lively is another talented actress, but it seems that she has been able to find her way out of the Hollywood rabbit hole that wrecks lots of young women.

    Blake Lively is another talented actress

    Really? Name me one good movie she was in.

    The one where she was stranded on an island blew dead dogs and she ain’t even that good looking.

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    We can disagree on Blake Lively's talent. and yes Lively is not as talented as Jennifer Lawrence.

    But Lively is at least now married and a mom. Not that long ago there were suggestions she was headed for the young actress rabbit hole.
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    The late Fred Gwynne was a great actor, wasn’t he? I used to watch the Munsters regularly as a kid. I would’ve never guessed that Herman Munster was from upper-class Tuxedo Park and educated at the exclusive Groton School and Harvard University. And served in WWII. A different era, when men were men.

    He was great with whatsHisName in Car 54 Where are You. I thought that was hilarious as a kid.

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  211. @whorefinder
    Donna the Thief?

    The Left is truly ridiculous when it comes to trust. You can lie, cheat, steal, assault, etc., but so long as you do it for leftist causes, the Left will proclaim you trustworthy. Which makes it all the more delicious when they are shocked, SHOCKED when said liar/cheater/thief/assaulter turns around and tabs them in the back.

    That Brazile is given some kind of gravitas by the left after literally stealing from her employer (CNN) to give Hillary the questions in a debate before hand---too hilariously dumb.

    Sociopaths never think that they themselves can be played, it's always everyone else who's the sucker. Which makes socios the biggest suckers of them all, once you realize how to con them.

    That Brazile is given some kind of gravitas by the left after literally stealing from her employer (CNN) to give Hillary the questions in a debate before hand—too hilariously dumb.

    Yeah, but she’s Black and Gay, so she’s got a few Pokemon points to ward off criticism that she’s just another political whore.

    It is interesting how many are abandoning the good ship Clinton. Their time may be up even if HRC does not know, or acknowledge, it yet.

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    Never count the Clintons out. Not until they are wearing orange jumpsuits or buried six feet under.

    Donna isn't the brightest bulb, considering she got caught stealing and she's an affirmative action case. So I wouldn't chalk this up to her being smartened up on things.
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  212. Anon 2 says:
    @Sunbeam
    "We do need to dial back on the belief that intelligence is the only important hereditary cognitive trait."

    This is what I think as well, though I haven't phrased it as well as you have.

    There are two subgroups in the US, that while not stupid, are nevertheless quite successful (even if not outsize Wall Street Mogul successful). The Amish and Mormons.

    The Amish are really interesting in this respect. Their basic secret seems to be not going into debt and avoiding consumer culture.

    Who knew? Anyway they aren't doing it by sending all their kids to MIT and Harvard.

    I’ve never bought into the cognitive fetishism either.
    Sociopaths can be very intelligent but they’re still sociopaths,
    and even intelligent people of stellar character can be corrupted by power.

    For a person of moderate intelligence there is no easier path to
    success in life than avoiding addictions – to drinking, smoking, drugs,
    beauty, sex, and food. I think Aristotle was right: nothing is as good for the
    individual and for the society as pursuing a life of virtue, i.e.,
    moderation in all things. For men, specifically, few things can be as potentially
    destructive as addiction to physical beauty and youth. Thomas Mann has
    something to say about it in his novella Death in Venice (1912).

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  213. Dissident says:

    The moral of all this is can probably be summarized as follows:
    Don’t leave your children alone with Hollywood types.

    Seriously, unless you happen to be one of those who is actually involved in any of these scandals, how relevant is any of this to your life?

    Isn’t this whole feeding frenzy of sordid revelations and accusations little more than a prurient diversion from the matters that actually affect most of us? To paraphrase a comment concerning the ruling class that I recently saw in another thread, it’s what’s legal that’s most reprehensible, consequential and dangerous.

    Same with Hollywood. It’s what’s on-camera that’s most concerning, consequential and dangerous; the content they produce for public consumption, its influence upon and reflections of the culture and society-at-large and the implications thereof. That and not whatever sexual transgressions and even crimes that Weinstein, Toback, Ratner, et al may have committed behind-the-scenes, is what’s actually likely to affect one, the people one cares about and the world at large.

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    Same with Hollywood. It’s what’s on-camera that’s most concerning...
     
    As veteran actress Andrea True sang:

    Oooh how do you like your love
    Oooh how do you like your love
    So if you want to know
    How I relly feel
    Get the cameras rolling
    Get the action going
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  214. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Jim Don Bob

    That Brazile is given some kind of gravitas by the left after literally stealing from her employer (CNN) to give Hillary the questions in a debate before hand—too hilariously dumb.
     
    Yeah, but she's Black and Gay, so she's got a few Pokemon points to ward off criticism that she's just another political whore.

    It is interesting how many are abandoning the good ship Clinton. Their time may be up even if HRC does not know, or acknowledge, it yet.

    Never count the Clintons out. Not until they are wearing orange jumpsuits or buried six feet under.

    Donna isn’t the brightest bulb, considering she got caught stealing and she’s an affirmative action case. So I wouldn’t chalk this up to her being smartened up on things.

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  215. whorefinder says: • Website
    @anonymous-antimarxist
    Look Jennifer Lawrence is a major talent and sadly also a troubled woman. I heard all about the "Fappening" pictures and that she has an alcohol problem. She is only 27 and has been in the acting business for a decade. Hopefully she finds her way and does not end up like Lindsay Lohan.

    Blake Lively is another talented actress, but it seems that she has been able to find her way out of the Hollywood rabbit hole that wrecks lots of young women.

    Dang dude get over your crushes. Lawrence is a skeezy ho, full stop. She’s literally sending nude pictures of herself with men’s sexual juice on her face (likely Weinstein’s or Ratner’s), with her smiling about it.

    She’s not finding her way out of this mess unless she enters a convent or they invent a magic pill to cure her of all the debasement she’s done. Just look at the way she acts on public podiums to see a woman near-permanently messed up.

    The only difference between Lawrence and a wall-approaching-female-adult-film-star is that all of Lawrence’s filth has been in done in private while her films haven’t been porn. And that kind of messed up stays with you your entire life, barring a miracle.

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    I heard about the "Fappening" photos, don't care to see them, also that Lawrence has a serious alcohol problem and is very promiscuous. Stefan Molyneux had a interview with an ex-Hollywood actor and now addiction counselor who talked about the sexual harassment both men and women face in Hollywood. Lots of rumors about how Lawrence, a minor cable tv actress landed her breakout role in Winter's Bone as an eighteen year old.

    Still she is a kid. Hope she comes through it all.

    Yes, I like Lawrence as an actress. Lots of folks would agree. Wish her the best.
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    Sailor is becoming notorious for censoring on topic posts which steal his thunder.
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  217. Svigor says:

    Exactly. And what the Jew haters recently turned feminists are missing is that this scandal is a power play by female execs (many of them Jewish!) within Hollywood.
    This moral panic is aimed at men in general. And the outcome will be to empower frigid, ball-busting harpies everywhere.

    The more I read that quote, the funnier it gets. Feminazis scalping Hollywood Jews and taking their power! Oh noes! This cannot stand!

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  218. Svigor says:

    Last night during the investigation into the damage done by the director, and how damaged the studio can be, they discovered some bizarre business interests. Seems the director is a major investor-partner in several adult porn websites. The studio and even the director’s managers didn’t know it. One of the porn sites in particular is so disgusting, perverted, and possibly illegal in the USA that the studio is scrambling to cut all ties and remove the director from everything, before the media uncovers this.

    Just rumor at this point, however juicy. But heck, even without out it the Weinstein Thing is rapidly approaching a Harold Covington Singularity.

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  219. renfro says:
    @TelfoedJohn
    Fraud and sexual offences seem disproportionate: https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/huge-leap-in-number-of-jews-behind-bars-1.59435

    https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=6180

    NCJRS Abstract
    The document referenced below is part of the NCJRS Virtual Library collection. To conduct further searches of the collection, visit the Virtual Library. See the Obtain Documents page for direction on how to access resources online, via mail, through interlibrary loans, or in a local library.\\
    ISSUES IN CRIMINOLOGY Volume:6 Issue:2 Dated:(SUMMER 1971) Pages:1-39

    excerpt…..

    THE JEWISH CRIME RATE TENDS TO BE HIGHER THAN THAT OF NONJEWS AND OTHER RELIGIOUS GROUPS FOR WHITE-COLLAR OFFENSES, THAT IS, COMMERCIAL OR COMMERCIALLY RELATED CRIMES, SUCH AS FRAUD, FRAUDULENT BANKRUPTCY, AND EMBEZZLEMENT.

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  220. Kylie says:
    @anonymous-antimarxist
    Does anybody remember or even care about the other movies in which the best supporting actress was nominated for the 1993 Oscar???


    Judy Davis – Husbands and Wives as Sally Wainwright
    Joan Plowright – Enchanted April as Mrs. Fisher
    Vanessa Redgrave – Howards End as Ruth Wilcox
    Miranda Richardson – Damage as Ingrid Fleming

    None of these movies were hits or memorable. In fact Damage was a really dark and disturbing if not perverted film by Louis Malle. 3 of the actresses were British and from Royal Shakespearean factory. Judy Davis was nominated for one of Woody Allen's lesser movies. Did Vanessa Redgrave really need another Oscar for not one of her best performances is a boring Merchant/Ivory production?

    In fact what made Marisa Tomei's win so stunning was that she beat the Wienstein/Miramax hype machine that pushed Joan Plowright as the favorite.

    Meanwhile "My Cousin Vinny" was one of the year's biggest hits making more than 5 times its budget. It is also one of the rare Hollywood comedies that is a huge hit that does not insult the Goyim. Being "Woke" to the JQ, I may no longer entirely enjoy "Caddieshack" or "Revenge of the Nerds" the way I did as a kid, but I still love "My Cousin Vinny".

    Miss Mona Lisa Vito is in fact the rare Alt-Right approved "White Sharia" heroine. She wants her man to be successful so that she can settle down and become a mother. Her "My Biological Clock is Ticking" scene is one of the most memorable by any actress in decades.

    My Cousin Vinny Biological Clock
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX15un8nf3o

    And it is not the only great scene by Tomei.

    My Cousin Vinny (5/5) Movie CLIP - Automotive Expert (1992) HD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nGQLQF1b6I

    The defense is wrong
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFdJza0AbeA

    Tomei in fact is one of the rare actresses who created a character that is a immediate cultural reference for generations. And she did it all while being billed under that great thespian Ralph Macchio

    Belichick My Cousin Vinny Reference
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BQveRsxcNw

    The Rich Eisen Show: Marisa Tomei talks Belichick's "My Cousin Vinny" reference

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPQ1eVcoXDw

    “Did Vanessa Redgrave really need another Oscar for not one of her best performances is[sic] a boring Merchant/Ivory production?”

    How can you say that? Vanessa Redgrave as Ruth Wilcox in Howards End was marvellous playing an exquisite reactionary.

    I don’t know that Redgrave is a very good actress. She has a luminous screen presence that tends to make all the characters she plays seem similar and to cast the actors with her into shadow. But that works beautifully in this film because Ruth Wilcox is a shimmering presence throughout the movie, despite her death early on.

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  221. Glaivester says: • Website
    @Wilkey
    For some weird reason I remember watching the Bret Ratner movie "Family Man" (iirc) with the commentary turned on. I must have been home sick in bed and had nothing better to do. He kept name dropping that he had dated Rebecca Gayheart, whoever the hell she is, and I remember thinking "this guy is a complete and total douche." Not at all shocked by this one.

    Rebecca Gayheart was the Noxzema girl in the early 90s, who went on to act in a few films.

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  222. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    As a woman, I have little sympathy for Hollywood women. It takes two to tango. For decades they have willingly played the parts of slutty women with no morals on the big screen, and dressed practically naked to every award show to attract attention. The men of Hollywood are decidedly sleazy, but the women are no angels either.

    That said, I’m glad the women are coming out in drove to name their accusers. For years Hollywood has been the biggest left wing/commie breeding ground. The whole country is sick of their hypocrisy. It’s great to see these hypocrites dragging their own dirty laundry out in the open for all to see.

    The left has been selling us depravity as creativity for far too long. Hollywood has played the biggest role in the degeneration of western culture, dragging us all down their pit of hell with them. Just about every drama that comes out of Hollywood, every series produced by HBO/Showtime and all other cable channels is depraved. House of Cards, Mad Men, Sex and the City, Six Feet Under, Californication, Entourage, Game of Thrones, Rome, all are vying for the most depraved award, each one sicker than the last.

    Enough is enough! Depravity is not Creativity. The left is brain dead and morally bankrupt. It’s time for Hollywood to pack it up and sail off into the sunset, along with the NFL – National Felonies League, and the NBA, the country and the whole world will be better off without all these sick hypocrite degenerates.

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    You're absolutely correct, It takes two to tango.

    It’s ironic for a defenseless good looking females (some are very young) seeking to meet such repulsive pigs to anticipate platonic encounters or any sincere help to go places in Hollywood. No way in hell, most of these girls (women) are well aware that they must trade in their bodies & human dignity for movie roles that may materialize, and still more sexual servitude to get up and become Hollywood stars (i.e. glorified whores). Frankly, 99% of trashy Hollywood guys (women too) wouldn’t hesitate to mount their own mothers or kids, because they’re Godless waste of humanity, they’re bound by no human norms or morals. Most of those pigs claim to be Jews, but Judaism is neither a gene nor a chromosome to be inherited from parentages, but divine instruction-sets for humans to follow and live by, but those pigs are far from that Nobel concept.

    They use the Jew label to shields them from public scrutiny when they commit their deliberate crimes. Their crimes are routine occurrences in Wall street (Ponzi schemes, Banking frauds, insider trading, leverage takeovers & outsourcing schemes), in DC as well, as almost all big soviet spies were from that breed and the same is true for corrupt Hollywood which produces disgusting filth, pornography, twisted crime glorification, homosexuality and prostitution as natural human under the pretext of freedom of expression or the first amendment.

    Those parasites contradict the whole teachings of the Jewish faith from A to Z, but whenever their hardcore crooks commit crimes, it’s rear to see any serious effort to expose these crooks as a breed of new Mongol-hordes bent on destroying America and milk its population to the last cent.
    Law enforcement officials or the media in pursuit of such criminals could become targets for intimidation and threats of civil-rights violations and ANTI-SEMITISM almost instantly, and even the ones that get convicted end up in minimum security detention with all amenities provided thru US tax payer’s money.

    For example, Mike Milken defrauded Americans for a huge sum of a billion Dollar plus, yet he spent only few years in Jail, and then got sanitized as a brand new individual, now recognized as an outstanding expert of sort, he’s lecturing people about finance and money management since his release. Only in America lunacy such as this could take place, then the real hilarious part; now he is labeled a philanthropist, as well (aren’t they all). There are hundreds of cooks worse than Milken, but time and space prevents going forever, because it does.

    Consequently, we are afflicted with a malevolent cancer destroying our existence from within, but no remedy has been formulated, at least not yet.
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  223. Glaivester says: • Website
    @anonymous-antimarxist
    My Cousin Vinny has a number of really good character actors.

    I always liked the late Lane Smith and he was great as the prosecutor in MCV. Bruce McGill, D-Day from Animal House is also a great character actor.

    But Fred Gwynne really went out on a high note with his last role in MCV.

    What about Austin Pendleton as the other defense lawyer?

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  224. black sea says:
    @Another Realist

    One thing that is fairly consistent is that Jews are the most intelligent grouping of people in today’s world. And intelligence is everything, absolutely every good trait is linked to it, it nature all the way down, ain’t no such thing as nurture.
     
    Is it intelligence, or cronyism? Members of the tribe all looking out for one another. Once a few Jews break in the industry, they only hire other Jews. That's how they come to dominate Wall Street, law offices, the media, academia, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, the DNC, lobbying industry, the Deep state. Want to work in these institutions? Two criteria - go to the right school, and be Jewish.

    If it were intelligence, Hollywood wouldn't be pumping out such trash year after year. The only movies that make money anymore are superhero movies and their sequels, nothing creative or original, just lots of violence and special effects. TV sitcoms today have the stupidest lines, no originality whatsoever and not even remotely funny. Reality shows have little to no creativity except delving into more dirt. Just look at the Kardashians. Creativity is long dead in Hollywood, just like in modern lit, modern art, all dominated by Jews.

    Indians are now taking a page out of their playbook in tech. Once an Indian becomes a manager in a dept., he only hires other Indians.

    If it were intelligence, Hollywood wouldn’t be pumping out such trash year after year. The only movies that make money anymore are superhero movies and their sequels, nothing creative or original, just lots of violence and special effects.

    A lot of people in the film industry are fully aware that their success — in terms of income, fame, and continued work opportunities — depends upon the willingness to crank out profitable trash, while pretending to be enthusiastic about it. There’s a considerable amount of self-contempt in all of this, at least among those reflective enough to have some lurking awareness of the bargains they’ve made to get to wherever they thought they wanted to be.

    It’s difficult to say how many of these people have a legitimate but unrealized talent for better work, because there aren’t many opportunities to demonstrate that. This doesn’t seem like a recipe for psychological or moral well being. It’s no surprise that this industry draws a lot of damaged people, and then damages them further.

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  225. Eagle Eye says:
    @whorefinder
    I think the "Best Supporting" actor roles are largely seen as pseudo-legacy awards for actors who did a great body of work but somehow didn't get the accolades/awards/acknowledgement previously. (For example, I fully expect Steve Buscemi to get one late in his career in some uncle/grandfather role in a comedy-drama. I would say the same for Tom Cruise, but he seems to have given up on ever playing second banana in any film or to acting for awards).

    At the time, Tomei was up against Miranda Richardson, Joan Plowright, Vanessa Redgrave and Judy Davis for the award, all of whom had more outstanding acting roles in the past. So Tomei's win was about people being miffed that the upstart took the crown, and the fact that the Academy looks down on comedic roles.

    The great thing about My Cousin Vinny is that it so obviously started out as a play that it isn't funny. The small cast, the rounded 3-D characters, the various funny but non exaggerated accents (Brookylnese v. Deep South) that seem to harken back to The Foreigner's love of mixing funny accents, the well-developed stagey jokes (e.g. the public defender who appears professional and confident, only to become a stuttering mess in court). Everyone involved deserved an award.

    actors who did a great body of work …

    Not a felicitous phrase at the moment.

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  226. black sea says:

    Victim alleges Harvey Weinstein raped her in her apartment — on two separate occasions. The incident occured after they were sharing a cab home one night, and hesuggested that they go to her apartment for a drink. Having never met Weinstein before, she agreed. Wow, he must be a smooth talker.

    Two months later, when Weinstein showed up at her building, she invited him into her apartment and — Shazzam, Sgt. Carter !– he raped her again.

    I don’t really understand how this studio system works.

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    A lot of these "rapes" that are being alleged are like the "rapes" that occur between students at colleges - they may meet that standards for "rape" when you are tried in the press or before some kollege kangaroo kourt but would never stand up in a court of law. Because of the hysteria, the NY (and maybe London and LA) prosecutors are going to have to charge Weinstein with one or more of these "rapes" but getting a conviction will be another matter. If you notice, whenever Weinstein's spokesman is asked about these incident noways, his only response is that it was all consensual.
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  227. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Mr. Anon
    Indeed, Marisa Tomei still looks quite good. She was notable as the sexy middle-aged teacher in Crazy, Stupid, Love. She looks like what Carrie Fisher might have looked like if she had taken better care of herself.

    I was thinking of that movie too. She’s been game for smaller roles like that, and does great in them.

    She was also in an indie movie around the turn of the century called In The Bedroom. I helped set up a 401(k) for the production company, which was in SoHo or Chelsea in Manhattan. I remember there was some a-hole producer or something with a British accent unloading a string of obscenities at someone on the phone while his yellow Lab was laying down at his feet.

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  228. Jack D says:
    @Lagertha

    Someone here might have far better insight than me as to why.
     
    Ok, I'll take a shot: All the Jewish guys that were chasing me during the college and post college years (NYC) always mentioned my Nordic looks....it helped that I was funny and outgoing, so I was not an Ice Queen. Many of them told me that shiksas really represented the forbidden fruit...the kind their mommy told them to never eat (haha, that was bad!). Jewish men, from childhood are groomed by their mothers to revere women and be very focused on women. The men that I hung out with (tired of Jewish guys by 23) confessed that they both feared their mother but totally expected to please their mother and marry a proper Jewish woman.

    Check out this cover photo which really creeped-me-out, after all these years:

    https://www.nytimes.com/201/10/04/magazine/behind-the-cover-9-24-17-html

    years ago, a guy I really liked (sophomore year) said his fantasy was to have blonde haired kids with someone who looked like me, but that his mother would never let that happen...kid you not!

    This cover really pissed me off because NYT would never, ever put an African family, Middle Eastern family, Asian family, a Latino family with a woman's naked butt and nipple exposed, with naked children in the background - even I was careful with sauna photos of my sons (getting into the internet) when they were little. What a double standard! And how disgustingly sexist. I'm shocked that the NYT does not see how unethical it is to put this naked woman and her children on the cover. And, the whole point of sauna is that it is a private ritual with either your spouse, family (children tend to not want family sauna around 12), or same sex group. I feel like the entire NYT editorial board was just salivating over this woman's image - or, they were being their "inner/fantasy" Hefner.

    But, like that stupid guy I dumped after his bizarre drunken confession, the stereotype of naked Scandinavians, Estonians and Finns persists....and, ergo, maybe these Hollywood guys act like horn dogs because they see themselves as having power over women, or dissing their mothers finally, string of ex-wives late in their lives. Viagra was probably a bad thing, too.

    I thought the sauna photo was pretty innocent – the idea was to show nudity as a natural part of a family vacation in another culture and not as something that is always sexual. Back in the day, the ONLY way you would see nudity in mainstream magazines WAS of African women (in National Geographic). Compared to what is a few clicks away on the internet, this was very tame.

    I feel like the entire NYT editorial board was just salivating over this woman’s image

    You are getting too worked up here. 1st of all, the entire NYT editorial board does not pick the magazine cover. The guy who does wrote the behind the cover article in which he explains his rationale and it is not to defile the blonde women of Northern Europe. Half the NYT Editorial board is gay and half are women so they are not exactly a bunch of Harvey Weinsteins.

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    Duh, I know nudity is a natural part of my culture. My point was: all the a-holes in NYT have lectured the American public for years, about respecting other peoples' cultures (think Halloween costumes/cultural appropriation) not to mention, objectifying women, yet, they were literally, titillated to put a woman from my culture on the cover...with naked kids for every pedo to see/fantasize about.

    Please, it's just part of the double standards of liberals: Muslim, Jewish and Latino women would never be butt naked with naked boys on the cover of the NYT magazine! And, don't condescend to me....it's so creepy: "you're getting all worked up here." You sound like an ass, a loser...but maybe you condescend to your wife, if you're lucky enough to have one.
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  229. @Cool McCool

    Well, I would like to nominate Mitzi Gaynor who came from next to nowhere to win the plum movie role of Nellie Forbush in South Pacific and then retired from movie acting soon afterwards. Obviously she did a fine audition as a naive young woman from Litte Rock, AK who falls in love with a middle aged man. She was known for having great legs, too, as well as the wavy frame of a dame.

    I would also like to nominate Audrey Hepburn who snatched the coveted musical movie role of Eliza Doolittle from fellow Brit Julie Andrews despite the minor handicap of not actually being able to sing. My Fair Lady still won the Best Picture Oscar.

    And finally I would like to nominate Julie Andrews as the greatest Oscar winner never to sleep with a producer, oh, wait a minute… reader, she married him.
     
    Good eye! Also, let's not forget those who bent over again and again, who don't care what you think. Marilyn Monroe is well documented, as well as Sharon Stone. Heather Graham has quite the track record, ironically featured in Steve Martin's "Bowfinger," doing what she allegedly does best.

    Sidenote: ever notice Steve casts women with fantastic breasts, then has his character fondle them? Heather Graham, that horse-faced girl in LA Story, and Bernadette Peters... am I missing anyone? Kinda weird, isn't it? Like Woody Allen casting barely legals as romantic leads. I notice things sometimes. Speaking of Woody... Harvey Weinstein Mira Sorvino.. hmmm.

    One last note to Steve... sometimes an early oscar winning gal drops out of the repetitive success loop because doing what she had to do works... on her–or him. At night. When she's/he's alone in bed, crying. They just don't have the belly for a career in the fast track. They thought they did, but they discover they were wrong. Their parents ultimately did too good a job, I guess.

    Ironically, you have to pick wisely when you aim to have sex with someone to further your career, and don't do it with too many different partners of wildly different powers to help you, or you get left on the side of the road as overused goods, Sarah Silverman. Just kidding. Sarah would never do that.

    Heather Graham claims that she only one meeting with Harvey. He gave her a pile of scripts to read and asked if she was interested in a role. Graham claims that Harvey hinted that she had to sleep with him for a role. She does not state how he hinted. He seemed to have kept his clothes on. Graham also told him that she will bring someone with her in future meetings. There was no second meeting.
    Harvey had much to fear from Graham. She claims that her coven is powerful. It can change the weather and get Obama elected. I always wonder why she did not get get Hillary elected. Maybe they hated the evil witch. Maybe Trump cast a counter spell.

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    I read her meeting with Weinstein was in the 2000s. Graham has been in movies since at least License to Drive in the late-80s. So she wasn't exactly a struggling actress having to decide between the casting couch and being a barista, or something.
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  230. Jack D says:
    @black sea
    Victim alleges Harvey Weinstein raped her in her apartment -- on two separate occasions. The incident occured after they were sharing a cab home one night, and hesuggested that they go to her apartment for a drink. Having never met Weinstein before, she agreed. Wow, he must be a smooth talker.

    Two months later, when Weinstein showed up at her building, she invited him into her apartment and -- Shazzam, Sgt. Carter !-- he raped her again.

    I don't really understand how this studio system works.

    https://pagesix.com/2017/11/02/paz-de-la-huerta-weinstein-raped-me-twice-in-my-apartment/?_ga=2.111069061.1428167608.1507224148-1957568869.1503198681

    A lot of these “rapes” that are being alleged are like the “rapes” that occur between students at colleges – they may meet that standards for “rape” when you are tried in the press or before some kollege kangaroo kourt but would never stand up in a court of law. Because of the hysteria, the NY (and maybe London and LA) prosecutors are going to have to charge Weinstein with one or more of these “rapes” but getting a conviction will be another matter. If you notice, whenever Weinstein’s spokesman is asked about these incident noways, his only response is that it was all consensual.

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  231. guest says:
    @anonymous-antimarxist
    My Cousin Vinny has a number of really good character actors.

    I always liked the late Lane Smith and he was great as the prosecutor in MCV. Bruce McGill, D-Day from Animal House is also a great character actor.

    But Fred Gwynne really went out on a high note with his last role in MCV.

    “What is a yute?”

    “Oh, excuse me your honor, two youths.”

    Imagine if Vinny was a black. Very problematic.

    Aside from Vinny and his girlfriend, obviously, the center of the film is between Vinny and Gwynne, both of whom are playing what should be ridiculous stereotypes but aren’t. I first saw it when I was a kid, and he was Gwynne was scary. But of course the Car 54/Munsters personality lingers below the surface.

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  232. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @candid_observer
    I'll take her modus tollens and give her a modus ponens right back.

    I read this and laughed, and then went back to look at this “Sophie”. I’m not familiar with her, and thought at first she must be a sort of Godfrey Elfwick. But it seems not. But she seems too familiar with too many hatefacts to last long in her current role…. she seems to think that some degree of intelligence and cleverness will save her.

    Sophie, what happened to Winston’s lunchmate Syme?

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  233. anon says: • Disclaimer

    @ Lagertha, #196:
    “even I was careful with sauna photos of my sons (getting into the internet) when they were little.”

    What, exactly were you afraid of?

    What harm can come from a photo?

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  234. Neoconned says:
    @Olorin

    More targets for the Femquisition. Men are men. Testosterone makes us act that way.
     
    Speak for yourself, degenerate.

    OMG! I can’t believe I had to debase and lower myself when I was younger by sucking off or massaging that old fat Jewish guy w back hair! Ewwwwww!
     
    Non-degenerate men don't think like this...and do a pretty good job of keeping our daughters from forming character that would allow them to go there When Younger. In fact our daughters would react to such a thing not with "I have to do this" but deployment of molecular separation devices. If they were hellbent on becoming entertainers in the first place, which isn't likely.

    Non-degenerate men also support women who wake up from their former degeneracy and guide them into better possibilities going forward. Even if we do consider the Current Year to be a tad on the hysterical side.

    Of course that assumes we know how to handle women and their emotions/reactions.

    But I guess virtue signalling about the manliness of abusing the topiary, as well as oneself, is more important than warning younger people from experience about degeneracy. So either Rosie the Regretter is going to have to step to the plate and take back their nights, or we're going to have to import some brown people to do the cleanup that American men won't do.

    now that a dog pile is forming….
     
    TMI about Hollywood.

    Speak for yourself sir. With the utmost respect stay in your little cluster of high trust heaven. Because in MANY OTHER parts of the country at best the women are honest whores with various personality defects. Where I live that’s the best I got to work with….

    Most of the other women are a den of vipers and snakes. Con artists, dishonest whores who like to you and whom you cannot trust, backstabbing attention seeking lunatics and mental cases who practice various types of attention fetishes.

    It devolves from there to blatant thieves, skank crackwhores who will do anything with their disease riddled bodies for a hit of whatever stimulant or downer of choice they’re using at the moment. Then the mudsharks and golddiggers, etc

    Heartiste calls what you do “white knighting” — very foolishly thinking you can reform a cheat or a whore or a fuck up with stuff you got from some Walton’s episode….

    Dunno what Norman Rockwell Oasis you live in but stay there….trust me sir you are blessed. and

    If I am a degenerate it’s because I’m a reactionary to the rot and the filth. An adaptive animal in the jungle….stay in your Oasis of bliss…..but men like me are reactionaries. Trust me, wished I lived in your world. But unlike you I play with what I’ve been dealt, not what I think should be in some state of nature

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    ... in MANY OTHER parts of the country at best the women are honest whores with various personality defects. Where I live that’s the best I got to work with….

    Most of the other women are a den of vipers and snakes. Con artists, dishonest whores who like to you and whom you cannot trust, backstabbing attention seeking lunatics and mental cases who practice various types of attention fetishes.

    It devolves from there to blatant thieves, skank crackwhores who will do anything with their disease riddled bodies for a hit of whatever stimulant or downer of choice they’re using at the moment. Then the mudsharks and golddiggers, etc
     
    Please tell us you are a homosexual. The only "women" you should be sleeping with are other men who are as F up as you.
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  235. Joe Adam says:

    Unfortunately majority of Americans refuse to speak up (tell the truth, that is) or rather keep quite when confronted with controversial issues threatening our future as a nation. The idea of nation basically means equality and the rule of law in all aspects of human activities, which also means the rule of the majority, but not in America.

    That so-called rule of law seems to be going south since the enactment of the civil rights acts (Laws) after Martin Luther and the civil right movement compelled the government to protect the weakest amongst us from the transgression and gross injustices of the system and the outlaws of corporate America. Most people thought that was a blessing, a great achievement to make right all the wrong done in our past, but that was a fantasy. The civil rights intended to shield the minorities, which in reality meant the African-Americans, the native Americans and other disenfranchised groups, which included women.

    The Ashkenazi Jews infiltrated the civil rights movement because they knew what’s coming, and they were the only group that benefited from the new laws by classifying the Jews as a minority group even thought, they are not (if religion could be the base, then the Mormons, the Muslims, the Buddhist and holly cow verity should apply, as well).

    They were the actual masterminds of black slavery according to all historical records. They were the cotton buyers, the plantation shop owners, the bankers that bought the harvested cotton, as well as the ones that sold & exported the cotton to England for fabrication and also the ones that imported the cotton fabrics and sold it in America. By the way, cotton was the biggest commodity and it was cotton business which propelled the Ashkenazi Jews in banking business in the 19-20th century America, and thanks to the black slaves.

    The poor blacks made very minimal gains by new laws, it was Ashkenazi Jews the only group with devilish innate & cunning to exploit the civil rights laws to gain political clout by applying for thousands of federal and local government jobs via the EQE act, and by which they established the Ashkenazi takeover of the US bureaucratic system since then. That feat enabled them to solidify their chokehold over America as they hired more & more of their type (they still do), infiltrated the legislative branch, the WH, the Dpt. Of State, treasury, Defense, Justice (that’s the biggest problem), Commerce, Education and the rest of US Federal government agencies and now they are the masters of this nation’s destiny. In fact, if you check the state department branches and their list of employees you would be amazed by the extent of their control. If you browse the names’ list in any branch or directorate you will notice that almost 85-90% of every manager and director is an Ashkenazi name. almost all deputy secretaries, under deputy secretaries, senior staffers almost all Jews and most have dual nationalities. For any other citizen with dual nationality, that feat is impossible since due to denial of security clearance for having dual nationality, but such rules don’t apply to Jews as they are exempt from these rules.

    Hollywood is no exception. A bunch of lowlife Ashkenazi east European established that cesspool of toxicity to destroy America’s religious and social fabric by promoting perversion, irresponsible conducts, crime and lawlessness. America became all about getting drunk and drugged, it was cool to have sex at 13 and never mind acting like animals then ending as worthless losers. The 24/7 exposure to this wicked brain-washing eliminated parenthood or school input. The ceaseless torrent of holly wood’s corrupt and depravity overrules anything a decent child could learn from parents of school, because we are programmed to let everyone have fun, and just chill, as if placing limits on kids or disallowing TV watching is oppressive and damaging to children, and who said no, that’s a bunch of BS? Apparently, very few dare to be that firm or organized or seriously worry about their children’s wellbeing.

    The sad part, hordes of women young and old paraded in front of cameras telling stories about their treatment like slaves, the physical and sexual abuse they suffered, as well as, molestation and rape. The cameras and news crews most likely Ashkenazi Jews, as well having a heyday writing stories about lowly white-trash women victims of molestation and rape by Hollywood sub humans that resemble the ugliest most disgusting looking apes on the face of the earth.
    Following the devil could lead to no better place, but hell on earth.
    I am sure some douche bag will post a reply calling me an anti-semi because truth hurts.

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  236. duncsbaby says:
    @Wilkey
    For some weird reason I remember watching the Bret Ratner movie "Family Man" (iirc) with the commentary turned on. I must have been home sick in bed and had nothing better to do. He kept name dropping that he had dated Rebecca Gayheart, whoever the hell she is, and I remember thinking "this guy is a complete and total douche." Not at all shocked by this one.

    Rebecca Gayheart was breathtakingly beautiful in her prime. She was also (big surprise) a hot mess who actually killed someone in a car accident.

    http://people.com/celebrity/ex-90210-star-wrongful-death-suit/

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    She has not aged gracefully. Nowadays she has the neck of a 70 year old. They can botox all the wrinkles out of your forehead but there's nothing they can do for your neck.
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  237. Lurker says:
    @Anon
    If women like to be abused, then why are they protesting against Weinstein and other abusers? And yes, it does look like some of the Jewish producer problem is religious hate-revenge against attractive shiksas. This is the result of a constant drumbeat of silly and dangerous anti-white propaganda which exempts Jews by considering them oppressed 'people of color' even when they're in power.

    Everything in your post is claptrap.

    This is the result of a constant drumbeat of silly and dangerous anti-white propaganda which exempts Jews by considering them oppressed ‘people of color’ even when they’re in power.

    And it helps that jews are the ones who started banging that drum.

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  238. @Anonymous
    Steve’s got a thing for Marisa, I think

    Me too. She could eat crackers in my bed.

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    Me too. She could eat crackers in my bed.
     
    Real waste of genes, though. Unlike her Oscar-winning movie character, Tomei's biological clock did run out without issue.
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  239. @Jim Don Bob

    Blake Lively is another talented actress
     
    Really? Name me one good movie she was in.

    The one where she was stranded on an island blew dead dogs and she ain't even that good looking.

    We can disagree on Blake Lively’s talent. and yes Lively is not as talented as Jennifer Lawrence.

    But Lively is at least now married and a mom. Not that long ago there were suggestions she was headed for the young actress rabbit hole.

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  240. @whorefinder
    Dang dude get over your crushes. Lawrence is a skeezy ho, full stop. She's literally sending nude pictures of herself with men's sexual juice on her face (likely Weinstein's or Ratner's), with her smiling about it.

    She's not finding her way out of this mess unless she enters a convent or they invent a magic pill to cure her of all the debasement she's done. Just look at the way she acts on public podiums to see a woman near-permanently messed up.

    The only difference between Lawrence and a wall-approaching-female-adult-film-star is that all of Lawrence's filth has been in done in private while her films haven't been porn. And that kind of messed up stays with you your entire life, barring a miracle.

    I heard about the “Fappening” photos, don’t care to see them, also that Lawrence has a serious alcohol problem and is very promiscuous. Stefan Molyneux had a interview with an ex-Hollywood actor and now addiction counselor who talked about the sexual harassment both men and women face in Hollywood. Lots of rumors about how Lawrence, a minor cable tv actress landed her breakout role in Winter’s Bone as an eighteen year old.

    Still she is a kid. Hope she comes through it all.

    Yes, I like Lawrence as an actress. Lots of folks would agree. Wish her the best.

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    After this round of Weinstein/Ratner/et al. casting couch stuff, it's pretty clear those rumors about Lawrence were correct.
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  241. BB753 says:
    @Truth
    BTW, I’ve wondered for years why Natasha Henstridge’s career stalled despite being among the hottest actresses of her generation.

    Genetic bad luck. some of them have a short window of being able to pass for chicks.

    http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/embed/public/2017/11/01/natasha-henstridge.jpg

    Truth, knowing your obsession with trannies.. Are you implying that Henstridge looks like a tranny since she turned thirty, or that she’s an an actual transexual?

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    I think that picture provides a fairly straightforward answer.

    The androgyne takeover is upon us, Old Sport, but you are quite welcome to utilize your 150 IQ to stay in the dark if you so choose, as does the rest of your cohort here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTJzQhEBgVA
    , @Truth
    You know how many words a picture is worth...
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  242. @whorefinder
    Hardy made a similar honest statement about steroid use in Hollywood.

    Hardy played Bane in the Batman film The Dark Knight Rises (the capper to the Christopher Nolan trilogy), and someone point blank asked him in an interview if he used steroids to buff up for that role and some other role where he played a bareknuckle boxer.

    Hardy's response was a very sarcastic, "Oh, no, I just worked out and ate right for three months and magically became as buff as a 10-year-verteran bodybuilder. What the heck do you think?"

    I've liked Hardy's work since he played the bad guy/Picard's clone son Shinzon in the final Next Generation move Star Trek: Nemesis even though most of the movie is crap. Thought Hardy played an excellent bad guy in a movie that didn't deserve him, and his final death scene was great.

    Anyway a few years ago there a was brief moment where it came out that steroid use was rampant in the rap community, which made sense, given how so many rappers were appearing shirtless and looking like they spent years in the Mr. Universe competition (for example, I remember the now-bankrupt 50 Cent's name being tossed around in the scandal). It was quickly hushed up and flushed down the memory hole because the music labels need the majority of their rappers to look like hard bad boys in order to sell records, rather than the music geek wusses most of them are.

    Almost every superhero movie now contains an obligatory shot of the male protagonist with his shirt off showing off a body building look or else a Brad Pitt from Fight Club physique. Heck, even Ant Man had one. This goes back to Sam Raimi's first Spiderman. It's all pretty gay, and also pretty obvious these dudes are on juice.

    “It’s all pretty gay” Perhaps, but obviously you don’t follow Bronze Age Pevert’s Twitter. Nude bodybuilders are the last hope of white survival.

    As for the topic at hand, no one should be shocked by any of this of course. White men in power use their influence to procure women as well, though admittedly the WeinsSTINEs and Ratners are more perverted and degenerate. Still the end result is the same.

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  243. Who’s next? Maybe Donald Trump. I know they did their best during the election campaign to nail him (eg Alicia Machado) and nothing stuck. But now after a month of Weinsteingate, the evidentiary standards for a trial in the press are more lax (if you can imagine that that was ever possible).

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    No, I don't think it's possible. But the standards haven't become more lax, anyway. The MSM was simply taking women's word for it regarding Trump. The same is the case with Weinstein. In both cases hearsay has also been involved.
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  244. Joe Adam says:
    @Anonymous
    As a woman, I have little sympathy for Hollywood women. It takes two to tango. For decades they have willingly played the parts of slutty women with no morals on the big screen, and dressed practically naked to every award show to attract attention. The men of Hollywood are decidedly sleazy, but the women are no angels either.

    That said, I'm glad the women are coming out in drove to name their accusers. For years Hollywood has been the biggest left wing/commie breeding ground. The whole country is sick of their hypocrisy. It's great to see these hypocrites dragging their own dirty laundry out in the open for all to see.

    The left has been selling us depravity as creativity for far too long. Hollywood has played the biggest role in the degeneration of western culture, dragging us all down their pit of hell with them. Just about every drama that comes out of Hollywood, every series produced by HBO/Showtime and all other cable channels is depraved. House of Cards, Mad Men, Sex and the City, Six Feet Under, Californication, Entourage, Game of Thrones, Rome, all are vying for the most depraved award, each one sicker than the last.

    Enough is enough! Depravity is not Creativity. The left is brain dead and morally bankrupt. It's time for Hollywood to pack it up and sail off into the sunset, along with the NFL - National Felonies League, and the NBA, the country and the whole world will be better off without all these sick hypocrite degenerates.

    You’re absolutely correct, It takes two to tango.

    It’s ironic for a defenseless good looking females (some are very young) seeking to meet such repulsive pigs to anticipate platonic encounters or any sincere help to go places in Hollywood. No way in hell, most of these girls (women) are well aware that they must trade in their bodies & human dignity for movie roles that may materialize, and still more sexual servitude to get up and become Hollywood stars (i.e. glorified whores). Frankly, 99% of trashy Hollywood guys (women too) wouldn’t hesitate to mount their own mothers or kids, because they’re Godless waste of humanity, they’re bound by no human norms or morals. Most of those pigs claim to be Jews, but Judaism is neither a gene nor a chromosome to be inherited from parentages, but divine instruction-sets for humans to follow and live by, but those pigs are far from that Nobel concept.

    They use the Jew label to shields them from public scrutiny when they commit their deliberate crimes. Their crimes are routine occurrences in Wall street (Ponzi schemes, Banking frauds, insider trading, leverage takeovers & outsourcing schemes), in DC as well, as almost all big soviet spies were from that breed and the same is true for corrupt Hollywood which produces disgusting filth, pornography, twisted crime glorification, homosexuality and prostitution as natural human under the pretext of freedom of expression or the first amendment.

    Those parasites contradict the whole teachings of the Jewish faith from A to Z, but whenever their hardcore crooks commit crimes, it’s rear to see any serious effort to expose these crooks as a breed of new Mongol-hordes bent on destroying America and milk its population to the last cent.
    Law enforcement officials or the media in pursuit of such criminals could become targets for intimidation and threats of civil-rights violations and ANTI-SEMITISM almost instantly, and even the ones that get convicted end up in minimum security detention with all amenities provided thru US tax payer’s money.

    For example, Mike Milken defrauded Americans for a huge sum of a billion Dollar plus, yet he spent only few years in Jail, and then got sanitized as a brand new individual, now recognized as an outstanding expert of sort, he’s lecturing people about finance and money management since his release. Only in America lunacy such as this could take place, then the real hilarious part; now he is labeled a philanthropist, as well (aren’t they all). There are hundreds of cooks worse than Milken, but time and space prevents going forever, because it does.

    Consequently, we are afflicted with a malevolent cancer destroying our existence from within, but no remedy has been formulated, at least not yet.

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    Tell us what you REALLY think about the Jews. There's no need to be shy about - let it all hang out.
    , @Another Realist
    Walt Disney was a stalwart of American conservatism and built a company that embraced American wholesomeness, until Michael Eisner the Jew took over as CEO. He immediately went on to remake Disney by making movies that glorify teen sex and perversion, promoting dumb jocks and bimbos as the new stars of schools, denigrating the smart kids as nerds, geeks and weirdos to be made fun of, and gave us degenerate teen pop idols like Britney Spears, Justine Bieber and Miley Cyrus. His successor Bob Iger, another Jew, is turning ESPN from a sports broadcaster to another liberal propaganda machine.

    Now Jewish run academia is forcing ever more perverted sex ed down our kids throats. Every high school now has an LGBTQ club and celebrate a "Coming Out Day". The State of CA now teaches about same sex parents starting in 2nd grade. 4th graders have to learn about CA's first gay governor. The "National Sex Ed Curriculum" mandates that all middle school and HS sex ed teach kids about sexual orientation and gender identity, encourage kids to "explore" their sexual orientation and not let "societal pressure" pushed them into choosing hetero. Read this outrageously sickening sex ed episode for 8th graders:
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/25/livid-parents-force-halt-graphic-middle-school-sex-ed-program/

    From the media to academia, Hollywood to Wall Street, Silicon Valley to the Deep State, Jews eventually run everything to the ground once they take over. It's almost as if they can't help themselves, they are constantly consumed by greed and lust. Freud told them to surrender to their id and libido, and they do, in spade.

    WASP power was at its apex during Victorian and Edwardian England, when the English were at their most conservative, a period when we strictly adhered to Christian values, when gentlemen behaved like gentlemen, and ladies behaved like ladies. After WWII the Jews who cucked out of the draft by enrolling in college while the gentiles when to fight Hitler on their behalf went on to dominate the media, academia and the government, and all hell broke lose. They sought to upend existing order by promoting the counter culture revolution, eschewed all things good and wholesome and embraced all things deviant and depraved. We are now seeing the complete unraveling of western societies after 5 decades of counter culture revolution that has finally gone off the deep end.
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  246. @MBlanc46
    They’re about to employ a full court press against him. It could get very ugly very soon.

    ….If that full court press were to be employed by the Washington Generals

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  247. @Svigor
    Oh, damn, I forgot the NPR Jew! That one is clearly an antisemitic pogrom; what are the odds that a perp at NPR would be Jewish? They just HAPPENED to accuse an NPR guy and he turns out to be a Jew? Coincidence? I...think...not!

    All kidding aside, the Weinstein Thing is way beyond the threshold of antisemitic pogrom. Time for the ADL to move in, SERIOUSLY.

    Could you imagine ‘Bye Jews’?
     
    Say it in the mirror until it feels right. It works.

    Hah j/k Jews.

    Man this Weinstein Thing just keeps on givin'. Corey Feldman is probably shopping real estate right now.

    Well, the ADL is caught between two canards.

    One canard is that Jewish men are more horrible toward women than anybody else.

    The other canard is that Jews control Hollywood and the media.

    But the good majority of the men being accused of sexual harassment and sexual assault are Jews.

    So is that true only because Jews way outnumber others in Hollywood and the media, or because Jewish men are way more likely to be horrible to women?

    Which is it, ADL? Choose your canard — you can have only one!

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    The ADL prefers to say that there are a lot of Jews in Hollywood and that Jews are disproportionately represented in the creative industry. They think that "the Jews control Hollywood" makes it sound like there is a sinister cabal. It's a subtle distinction but I think they have a point.



    http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19
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  248. Pat Boyle says:
    @S. Anonyia
    Women are generally less into sexual kinks than men, including BDSM. Way more men posting ads online asking to be tied up than women.

    Read women's romance novels, There are fantasies about being taken advantage of but it involves sexy men, not old ugly obese men. I doubt of these actresses enjoyed having to deal with Weinstein and his ilk.

    I read a woman’s romance novel once. I was in the hospital and was going crazy with boredom. I was sick of TV so I asked them to bring me something to read . The nice accommodating nurses scoured the building but only managed to find two Nora Roberts romance novels. Ugh.

    A few years ago there was speculation that pornography and romance4 novels could be written by machine – some sort of word processor. I wonder if that ever happened? Roberts would likely be a customer if such a system exists.

    I’ve never seen an ad for a man to be tied up. Of course I haven’t been looking for them either. In any case statistics on taboo subjects like BDSM are unreliable.

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    "I read a woman’s romance novel once."

    Better thee than me. I find them unreadable. I thumbed through Fifty Shades of Grey in the store. Horrible. The writing was so dull, flat and awkward that I was distracted from whatever sexual position, perversion or predilection was being described.

    I'd rather read a western (Louis L'Amour is unfairly ridiculed, his books at least are readable) or old-fashioned children's book (Eleanor Estes is a favorite). I really wonder about women who can actually get through a typical woman's novel, when of the allusive modest type or the outright raunchy type. I don't get what they get out of them.
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  249. Wally says:
    @Jack Hanson
    What the hell Steve?

    How come this isn't getting approved?

    https://www.redstate.com/kiradavis/2017/10/24/next-big-hollywood-sex-scandal-already-breaking...at-nickelodeon/amp/

    Sailor is becoming notorious for censoring on topic posts which steal his thunder.

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    Sailor is becoming notorious for censoring on topic posts which steal his thunder.
     
    It's usually just posters over-reacting to random, sometimes long, delays (me too).

    'Moderated at whim'.

    He also has to churn out full articles faster than most people churn out comments.

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  250. @AM

    (See?)
     
    LOL! Fair enough. I have twitch with some of the women and violence theories that float around the alt-right. :)

    :That chimps beat females at times right before intercourse, and that those females get pregnant more often

     

    I'm gonna need more evidence on this than "The internet says so". I also had someone try to tell me dolphins had homosexual sex regularly (willing to concede whate