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I went to the Post Office today, but it was closed, and then to the bank, but it was closed too. A lot of people rolled up and were equally surprised. I guess we’d all assumed that, somewhere along the line, Columbus had been Canceled.

Here’s my idea: on October 12th, we all celebrate Columbian Exchange Day by eating pizza made with New World tomato sauce and Old World wheat.

 
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  1. With curry powder to symbolize Columbus’ search for India.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    And why not cocaine in honor of the great nation of Colombia.
  2. Tom Brady wont be there. He doesn’t eat tomatoes. They cause inflammation.

    • Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    Wow.

    As a tomato grower and fan of good music, I can tell you that Tom Brady is a clearly a fool.

    I've eaten homegrown tomato BLT sandwiches for breakfast, alternating with tomato and bacon omelets, for 3 months now. And I feel great!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tj4wIKMqEE

  3. I live in a town which now celebrates “indigenous people’s day.” This was imposed by the city council. I think, however, that most people are generally just flummoxed as to how to handle the day. I’ve noticed that many businesses and institutions now simply refer to “the holiday.” As in signs on stores that say “ we are closed for the holiday.” I guess they are afraid if they choose “indigenous people’s day” they will offend one group of people, while saying “Columbus day” will offend another, so they just punt on it.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    I live in a town which now celebrates “indigenous people’s day.”

    Columbus Day is now quite fraught, what with his 15th-century attitudes about colonialism and indigenous people. We need a new holiday to replace it, but "Indigenous People's Day" is too specific and doesn't suggest any appropriate activities. I propose that a day be set aside every year on which the 40-percent or so of Americans who hate this country could celebrate their passion. Call it "Hate America Day." Bonfires of flags, MAGA hats, Christmas wreaths, NASCAR memorabilia, and books written before wokedness could be part of the festivities. Any statues that haven't already been torn down could be located and demolished.

    This holiday would finally give our media, academia, celebrities, progressives, and recent Third World immigrants a holiday they can truly get behind.
    , @Dr. X

    I live in a town which now celebrates “indigenous people’s day.” This was imposed by the city council. I think, however, that most people are generally just flummoxed as to how to handle the day.
     
    Have a happy Human Sacrifice Day...
    , @Forbes
    What event, happening, discovery, holy day, holiday is being "celebrated" on Indigenous Peoples' Day? What?

    I'm flummoxed in this little debate...

    Or is it just the usual Marxist dictate of people's conduct?
    , @Prester John
    "Indigenous People" lumps in, for example, Algonquin with Iroquois--traditional enemies.

    Who thinks up this stuff anyway?
    , @Bill Jones
    What is wrong with"Celebrating by getting drunk"
    The natives do it.

    Any danger of celebrating this one in Europe?

  4. I made spaghetti with a meat sauce tonight to honor the great man Christopher Columbus.

  5. Steve,

    Off topic, but the Hard Rock hotel collapse….this looks to me like Invade The World Invite The World collateral damage. A catastrophic failure such as this one is a third world or developing nation thing. Developer was a crooked Indian, who else was involved who was a third worlder?

    • Replies: @bomag

    ... looks to me like Invade The World Invite The World collateral damage
     
    Yeah, but the Media and officialdom are full of apologists that will point out the first worlders involved; and stats indicating building accidents are no higher now than in the past (overlooking, of course, that they should be lower today).
    , @interesting
    I was thinking the same thing.......hire the cheapest and get cheap shit.
  6. Don’t go to Canada during Columbus Day weekend. It’s their Thanksgiving, and the cities empty, and the roads are clogged.

    Canada seems so familiar to us, then they go and do something that violates the laws of the universe, like having Thanksgiving on Monday. Eww…

    Even Nostradamus knew better.

    From the three water signs will be born a man
    who will celebrate Thursday as his holiday.
    His renown, praise, rule and power will grow
    on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East.

    https://www.crystalinks.com/quatrainscentury1.html

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    Don't take it personally, it just gets cold here earlier.
    , @Cagey Beast
    Apparently, the Native guy from Canada's west coast has been able to spin his anti-Columbus snark into a piece for ..... Teen Vogue. This is all so 2019:

    https://twitter.com/rjjago/status/1183844976821592066?s=20

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    What kind of quatraining is that? It doesn't even rhyme, for cryin' out loud. ;-}

    So much for the foresight of Nostradumbass.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa89bt0GZvQ
  7. Yeah, my trip to the bank was a waste as well.

  8. I work a low-skill wage job and all my Mexican coworkers called it “Columbus Day” and seemed to have a generally positive opinion of the Holiday and the man, for what it’s worth.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Any idea what kind of Mexicans?
    , @Jim bob Lassiter
    A real Mexican would call it Dia de La Raza.
    , @Anonymous
    I'd be surprised if most Mexicans have even heard of Columbus Day. Most private sector employees don't get Columbus Day off.

    It's a federal holiday, so federal government workers get off, but only in 21 states do state government workers get off.
  9. OT: There was a mass shooting in Chicago this weekend, for some reason none of the news stories mention it but it’s clear the killer is a Polish immigrant. That’s the reason this isn’t national news if it had been a US born white guy the MSM would have been all over this. Even the local news isn’t treating this like a big deal, the looming teachers strike has led off most newscasts.

    https://wgntv.com/2019/10/14/man-66-charged-with-murder-of-5-neighbors-in-northwest-side-condo-building/

  10. My guess is conservatives will eventually concede on the need to cancel or rename Columbus Day, and then be totally surprised when the next demand is to remove the name Columbia from the name of Washington, D.C. Of course that may come before or after the name Washington is removed from that city’s name. But the point is they will cave.

    I’m surprised Columbia University hasn’t yet changed its name.

    • Agree: jim jones, Abe
    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Well, really, the guy's name was Colombo, come to that – Cristoforo Colombo. In Spanish, he was called Cristóbal Colón, and he was probably called by that more than his birthname, given the course of his life. (I doubt he ever once spoke the words "Christopher Colombus" or even heard them spoken.)

    So, we can either celebrate by making it a custom on this day, after any parting, to quickly return and say "Excuse me; there's just one more thing..." followed by a seemingly innocuous question.

    Or, we could change all these names to "Colón" – maybe combining the affair with a promotion of colorectal screenings by the national association of gastroenterologists or whatever to make it more anodyne.

    Anyway, as the fellow working with Mexicans notes, actual mestizos and Amerindians don't generally mind Colombus (just as they don't care about the Redskins or the Braves, etc.) – you think the people in Colombia, for example, are changing the name of the place anytime soon?!

    , @Kronos
    Well it used to be King’s College until the American Revolution. (Alexander Hamilton was one of those pesky immigrants who wanted to shake things up, he went there on a poetry scholarship if I recall correctly.)

    I’m pretty sure it just wasn’t:

    Colonist Lives Matter!
    Colonist Lives Matter!
    Colonist Lives Matter!

    87 times like that one kid a few hundred years later at Harvard.
    , @Kronos

    My guess is conservatives will eventually concede on the need to cancel or rename Columbus Day, and then be totally surprised when the next demand is to remove the name Columbia from the name of Washington, D.C.
     
    Do they get anything (like under the political table) in return? If they’re gonna cave why not make it worth selling?
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    "My guess is conservatives will eventually concede on the need to cancel or rename Columbus Day..."

    They'll lobby to have the named changed to recognize a "conservative" negro, like they did with Harriet Tubman on the $20, and then claim it's a victory over Democrats.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    That'd be a lot of work. I wonder how many signs would be involved, not to mention logos on the sides of city trucks, the road maps, and, of course, the stationary (stationary? What is this stationary of which you speak?).

    Let's see: Indigenous Peoplus, Indigenousiana, Indigenous Peoplus, Ohio, Indigenous Peoplia, Tennessee, Indigenous Peoplia, Missouri, Indigenous Peoplia, S. Carolina, and then the big river out in Washington St./Oregon.

    As for Mordor on the Potomac, Peak Stupidity has long ago gotten on board in rejecting this oppressive name involving that white invader - we call it Washington, FS. (for Federal Shithole).

    Happy Columbus Day from Peak Stupidity on the RIGHT DAY, October 12th, when Columbus and his crew made landfall after a 6-week voyage!
    , @RAZ
    Inevitable that Columbus Day will go. And if it weren't already President's Day, but was just Washington's Birthday, that would also eventually go, since Washington had slaves.

    I get that there are valid grievances from Native Americans, and descendants of slaves. My non politically correct solution would be to leave names and statues as they are, and add additional statues, plaques, etc to recognize the viewpoints of others. But that won't fly. And we will never reach a level where people will be satisfied. There will always be a new level of grievance brought up that needs to be addressed
  11. Columbus is cancelled by the State of California. As Chris Rock once said, “you gotta be pretty racist not to want a day off.”

  12. Columbus had been Canceled

    While private businesses have the right to observe whatever holidays they choose, to actually repeal a federal holiday would require a literal act of congress. Therefore, I don’t see it going away any time soon.

    In North Jersey, some towns are Jewish enclaves, while others are full of ethnic Catholics. The towns with ethnic Catholics tend to have no school on Columbus Day, while the Jewish towns tend to have school. I don’t think they are dismissing Columbus per se. Rather, they are closed for two (or three) days for the Jewish holidays and they don’t want to take another day off.

    When I have worked on Columbus Day, I would wish my students a Happy Canadian Thanksgiving, since no one gets upset at Thanksgiving.

  13. ‘Muh restaurant’ is always a good excuse for imperialism.

  14. Not to mention tacos al pastor. In the old days, the Aztecs had to eat the human flesh of their captives in their tacos, lacking pigs and cattle.

  15. King County, WA used to be named after an evil white man, but about 10 years ago the county government decided to keep the name but change the namesake to MLK, along with iconography showing the 60s civil rights leader glaring down at people.

    Seems that the challenge here is to find a Columbus with the right skin color and then we could keep the holiday.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    King County, WA used to be named after an evil white man
     
    Well, those in Washington (DC) did call him Miss Nancy, and claimed he got it on with his male slaves...


    https://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/10/06/americas-first-gay-vice-president/
    , @Barnard
    How about the film director Chris Columbus? He did the Home Alone movies and some pretty awful stuff quality wise, but according to Wikipedia he endorsed Hillary in 2016. He doesn't address the skin color issue though maybe he can share the day with someone of color.
    , @William Badwhite
    Seems easier to just insist Columbus was black, like the ancient Egyptians.
    , @duncsbaby
    I nominate Bartolo Colon. We could call it Big Sexy Day.
    , @EdwardM
    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/Gallery_Images/2011/6/24/1308939703069/Peter-Flak-as-Columbo-007.jpg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=57b3a2c9c83b212b55e8d92b8ae12826

    Still white, but at least not a genocider.
  16. Tomorrow, David French will inform us of the Conservative Case for Indigenous People’s Day (oh, and stay in Syria.)

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Won't David French be too busy to comment, in his new role as as Senior Editor of The Dispatch? After all, the project is going to require great thoughtfulness.

    Former National Review columnist Jonah Goldberg and Steve Hayes of the now-defunct Weekly Standard have launched a conservative media company called The Dispatch.

    “We aim to make The Dispatch a place that thoughtful readers can come for conservative, fact-based news and commentary that doesn’t come either through the filter of the mainstream media or the increasingly boosterish media on the right. Importantly, we want to build a genuine community, with regular engagement between those of us who work here and the readers and listeners who will pay our salaries," Goldberg and Hayes write on the company's website....

    "We think there are many out there, of all ideological persuasions, hungry for what we are offering. As Basil King said, 'Be bold and (((mighty forces))) will come to your aid,'" Goldberg and Hayes add on The Dispatch's site. "We believe that the mightiest force out there will be the readers eager to come along for the ride. If we’re wrong, we’ll fail. But failure in a good cause is better than triumph in a bad one. Besides, if we didn’t think we were right about what many people desire, we wouldn’t be trying this in the first place."
     
  17. How about everyone who has a problem with Columbus Day and whose ancestors were not here 600 year ago foreswear the ill-gotten, hand-me-down spoils of Columbus’s discovery by leaving the continent entirely. The rest of us will follow soon, we promise.

  18. @Anonymous
    With curry powder to symbolize Columbus' search for India.

    And why not cocaine in honor of the great nation of Colombia.

  19. That’s actually a really good idea, Steve.

  20. @MEH 0910
    https://www.teenagemutantninjaturtles.com/2016/03/16/march-19-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-day/

    https://i1.wp.com/www.teenagemutantninjaturtles.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/LA-Decree.jpg

    Tom Bradley was right.

  21. @istevefan
    My guess is conservatives will eventually concede on the need to cancel or rename Columbus Day, and then be totally surprised when the next demand is to remove the name Columbia from the name of Washington, D.C. Of course that may come before or after the name Washington is removed from that city's name. But the point is they will cave.

    I'm surprised Columbia University hasn't yet changed its name.

    Well, really, the guy’s name was Colombo, come to that – Cristoforo Colombo. In Spanish, he was called Cristóbal Colón, and he was probably called by that more than his birthname, given the course of his life. (I doubt he ever once spoke the words “Christopher Colombus” or even heard them spoken.)

    So, we can either celebrate by making it a custom on this day, after any parting, to quickly return and say “Excuse me; there’s just one more thing…” followed by a seemingly innocuous question.

    Or, we could change all these names to “Colón” – maybe combining the affair with a promotion of colorectal screenings by the national association of gastroenterologists or whatever to make it more anodyne.

    Anyway, as the fellow working with Mexicans notes, actual mestizos and Amerindians don’t generally mind Colombus (just as they don’t care about the Redskins or the Braves, etc.) – you think the people in Colombia, for example, are changing the name of the place anytime soon?!

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/BreakingBurgh/status/1183750418310008834

    https://twitter.com/mondomascots/status/1176870846196932609
    , @dr kill
    Are you saying that colony, colonist and colonial all are derived from the original last name of Colombus? Cool.
  22. Here’s my idea: on October 12th, we all celebrate Columbian Exchange Day by eating pizza made with New World tomato sauce and Old World wheat.

    And made by sub-minimum wage indigenous people.

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    And give each other smallpox and syphilis ?
  23. • Replies: @Anonymous
    Every immigrant who followed is a co-murderer since he or she participated in the taking of the New World from the brown/red natives.
  24. @Chief Seattle
    King County, WA used to be named after an evil white man, but about 10 years ago the county government decided to keep the name but change the namesake to MLK, along with iconography showing the 60s civil rights leader glaring down at people.

    Seems that the challenge here is to find a Columbus with the right skin color and then we could keep the holiday.

    King County, WA used to be named after an evil white man

    Well, those in Washington (DC) did call him Miss Nancy, and claimed he got it on with his male slaves…

    https://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/10/06/americas-first-gay-vice-president/

  25. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/SFGate/status/1183833371786395648

    Every immigrant who followed is a co-murderer since he or she participated in the taking of the New World from the brown/red natives.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    They should replace Columbus Day with Undocumented Immigrants Day. It would be more inclusive. Why should Columbus get all the credit?
  26. @Reg Cæsar
    Don't go to Canada during Columbus Day weekend. It's their Thanksgiving, and the cities empty, and the roads are clogged.

    Canada seems so familiar to us, then they go and do something that violates the laws of the universe, like having Thanksgiving on Monday. Eww...

    Even Nostradamus knew better.


    From the three water signs will be born a man
    who will celebrate Thursday as his holiday.
    His renown, praise, rule and power will grow
    on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East.


    https://www.crystalinks.com/quatrainscentury1.html

    Don’t take it personally, it just gets cold here earlier.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Don’t take it personally, it just gets cold here earlier.
     
    October I can see. But Monday? You get a three-day holiday. We get five and a half.

    Besides, I lived in St Paul for thirty years. That's colder than at least eight of the provincial capitals. We're not impressed!
  27. @JimB

    Here’s my idea: on October 12th, we all celebrate Columbian Exchange Day by eating pizza made with New World tomato sauce and Old World wheat.
     
    And made by sub-minimum wage indigenous people.

    And give each other smallpox and syphilis ?

  28. @istevefan
    My guess is conservatives will eventually concede on the need to cancel or rename Columbus Day, and then be totally surprised when the next demand is to remove the name Columbia from the name of Washington, D.C. Of course that may come before or after the name Washington is removed from that city's name. But the point is they will cave.

    I'm surprised Columbia University hasn't yet changed its name.

    Well it used to be King’s College until the American Revolution. (Alexander Hamilton was one of those pesky immigrants who wanted to shake things up, he went there on a poetry scholarship if I recall correctly.)

    I’m pretty sure it just wasn’t:

    Colonist Lives Matter!
    Colonist Lives Matter!
    Colonist Lives Matter!

    87 times like that one kid a few hundred years later at Harvard.

  29. @istevefan
    My guess is conservatives will eventually concede on the need to cancel or rename Columbus Day, and then be totally surprised when the next demand is to remove the name Columbia from the name of Washington, D.C. Of course that may come before or after the name Washington is removed from that city's name. But the point is they will cave.

    I'm surprised Columbia University hasn't yet changed its name.

    My guess is conservatives will eventually concede on the need to cancel or rename Columbus Day, and then be totally surprised when the next demand is to remove the name Columbia from the name of Washington, D.C.

    Do they get anything (like under the political table) in return? If they’re gonna cave why not make it worth selling?

  30. @Anonymous
    I work a low-skill wage job and all my Mexican coworkers called it "Columbus Day" and seemed to have a generally positive opinion of the Holiday and the man, for what it's worth.

    Any idea what kind of Mexicans?

  31. Or, we could just start the deportation of people who use the phrase “Indigenous Peoples Day”.

  32. “I went to the Post Office today, but it was closed”

    Why do government workers get a day off most people don’t? Maybe rename it postal worker day.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Anarcho-tyranny: the state is always the beneficiary of the doubt.
    , @Intelligent Dasein

    Why do government workers get a day off most people don’t? Maybe rename it postal worker day.
     
    Why don't you take your smug, stupid ass down to your local post office and apply for the job of City Carrier Assistant, if you think it's so easy? They're always hiring for the position, and after a few weeks of work you'll understand why. You will have the pleasure of spending your Columbus Day (and every federal holiday, and every Sunday) delivering Amazon packages for 12 hours for ungrateful slobs who cannot be bothered to get their dog food and cosmetics from the store. Then you can do it all over again the following Tuesday, with double mail volume on top of it all. Don't forget your headlamp, ice cleats, and an empty bottle to piss in. But on the other hand, you're getting seventeen bucks an hour, no benefits, and no time with your family, so it's all worth it.

    How fun it is to bitch about the post office and bank being closed! Oh, those lazy government and quasi-governmental workers! But every time you say so, and every time you click Go to Checkout, you are "signalling a revealed preference" that you refuse to be deprived, even for a microsecond, of the services they provide for you. While banks and post offices do cease normal retail operations for one day, this is only in observance of the fact that the federal government, via its institutions, has decided to honor some particularly noteworthy individual or event. Only a relative handful of employees actually have the day off, and even they are going to pay for it when working through the backlog the next day. Everybody involved in the logistical, operations, and processing side of the business is still working through the holiday, because nobody seems able to survive without them.

    I am all in favor of giving everybody the day off, as long as we all accept what that entails. No Amazon deliveries, no stores open, no buying or selling, skeleton crews at hospitals, police stations, and power plants...in other words, a real holiday. I'm all in favor of making Sunday a sabbath again.Unfortunately, my position is an unpopular one. Time and again the people demonstrate, through their actions, that they don't really want anything to do with it.
  33. We should adopt the British custom of just calling these days somethink like “October Bank Holiday.”

  34. @George
    "I went to the Post Office today, but it was closed"

    Why do government workers get a day off most people don't? Maybe rename it postal worker day.

    Anarcho-tyranny: the state is always the beneficiary of the doubt.

  35. No matter how woke they get, government workers ain’t giving up a day off. Like the NBA in China.

  36. @Reg Cæsar
    Don't go to Canada during Columbus Day weekend. It's their Thanksgiving, and the cities empty, and the roads are clogged.

    Canada seems so familiar to us, then they go and do something that violates the laws of the universe, like having Thanksgiving on Monday. Eww...

    Even Nostradamus knew better.


    From the three water signs will be born a man
    who will celebrate Thursday as his holiday.
    His renown, praise, rule and power will grow
    on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East.


    https://www.crystalinks.com/quatrainscentury1.html

    Apparently, the Native guy from Canada’s west coast has been able to spin his anti-Columbus snark into a piece for ….. Teen Vogue. This is all so 2019:

    • Replies: @bomag

    my Columbusing of Columbus’ birthplace
     
    LOL

    I wonder if he plans on building a road... or stringing an electric wire... or picking up the trash.
  37. For a few years Boston moonbats have been trying to get rid of Christopher Columbus Park on the waterfront in the North End, but as long as there are still members of the Cosa Nostra living there, fuggedaboudit.

    • Replies: @Mike Zwick
    Hipsters and yuppies are moving into an area of Chicago's West Side that was Little Italy for over a century. There is a statue of Columbus in Arrigo Park in Little Italy that was vandalized a few years ago. Witnesses were able detain one of the purps. He was arrested but then got death threats from members of the Chicago Outfit. I think that they wanted to squash this from happening again in their neighborhood.
  38. @istevefan
    My guess is conservatives will eventually concede on the need to cancel or rename Columbus Day, and then be totally surprised when the next demand is to remove the name Columbia from the name of Washington, D.C. Of course that may come before or after the name Washington is removed from that city's name. But the point is they will cave.

    I'm surprised Columbia University hasn't yet changed its name.

    “My guess is conservatives will eventually concede on the need to cancel or rename Columbus Day…”

    They’ll lobby to have the named changed to recognize a “conservative” negro, like they did with Harriet Tubman on the $20, and then claim it’s a victory over Democrats.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    They’ll lobby to have the named changed to recognize a “conservative” negro, like they did with Harriet Tubman on the $20
     
    Harriet helped remove from this country those who had no valid claim to be here, in the face of fierce opposition from the mad diversitarians of the day. What's not to like?

    At least the Cherokees had a rightful claim to be in Georgia.
  39. Another victim of the Great Intersectionality Cultural Revolution.

  40. @Thatgirl
    I live in a town which now celebrates “indigenous people’s day.” This was imposed by the city council. I think, however, that most people are generally just flummoxed as to how to handle the day. I’ve noticed that many businesses and institutions now simply refer to “the holiday.” As in signs on stores that say “ we are closed for the holiday.” I guess they are afraid if they choose “indigenous people’s day” they will offend one group of people, while saying “Columbus day” will offend another, so they just punt on it.

    I live in a town which now celebrates “indigenous people’s day.”

    Columbus Day is now quite fraught, what with his 15th-century attitudes about colonialism and indigenous people. We need a new holiday to replace it, but “Indigenous People’s Day” is too specific and doesn’t suggest any appropriate activities. I propose that a day be set aside every year on which the 40-percent or so of Americans who hate this country could celebrate their passion. Call it “Hate America Day.” Bonfires of flags, MAGA hats, Christmas wreaths, NASCAR memorabilia, and books written before wokedness could be part of the festivities. Any statues that haven’t already been torn down could be located and demolished.

    This holiday would finally give our media, academia, celebrities, progressives, and recent Third World immigrants a holiday they can truly get behind.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    '... I propose that a day be set aside every year on which the 40-percent or so of Americans who hate this country could celebrate their passion. Call it “Hate America Day.” ...'

    This is a great idea. Your post is getting wider distribution.
  41. Columbus actually never set foot in North America and he was a Christian religious fanatic. He had regular conversations with Jesus and the Holy Spirit, who told him he was given the holy destiny to liberate Jerusalem with the gold he would discover in “the new world” they would lead him to discover – in fulfillment of John’s Apocalypse and ushering in the Second Coming, no less. He tried to peddle this crazy scheme to numerous royals but only Isabella of Spain was nutty enough to go along with it. She was a fellow religious loon, busy conducting a war to drive the Muslims out of Spain; she expelled all the Jews from her kingdom the same year Columbus set sail.

    The role that mentally ill people have played in the shaping of our country is detailed in John D. Gartner’s intriguing study, “The Hypomanic The Link Between Craziness and Success in America.” (Simon & Schuster, 2005)

    And “Columbia” was actually one of the several names that was proposed for the new United States (Fredonia was another, revived long after by Groucho). It means “peace” and has nothing to do with the Italian Catholic whom the WASP founders would have found repellent.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Columba, in the original Latin, actually means "dove"; it means peace by extension.

    Perhaps ironically, Malcolm (originally Máel Coluim or Maol Choluim) means "devotee, or follower, of (the Irish) Saint Columba" – the namesake of the famous mariner.

    Thus, the Awokened must be careful about anything they name after blackety black black black "Malcolm X." It's all very fraught....
    , @Prester John
    As a footnote, "America" was named after another Italian explorer, Amerigo Vespucci, by a German cartographer, Martin Waldseemüller. Neither would have been comfortable in the homes of the Cabots or the Lodges.
    , @MEH 0910
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/hypomania-mania/
    , @snorlax

    And “Columbia” was actually one of the several names that was proposed for the new United States (Fredonia was another, revived long after by Groucho). It means “peace”
     
    "Columbus" means "dove." "Columbia" means "land of doves" or "land of Columbus."

    and has nothing to do with the Italian Catholic whom the WASP founders would have found repellent.
     
    Someone should have informed Charles Carroll of Carrollton, Thaddeus Kosciuszko and the Marquis de Lafayette. Not to mention noted Scotophile and religious fanatic Thomas Jefferson at his Charlotte's Village country estate, "Wee Bray." And the Scotsman for whom America was named, Amerigo Vespucci.

    Also

    1492: Columbus sails the ocean blue
    1506: Columbus dies
    1517: Luther's 95 Theses
    1521: Luther excommunicated
    1526: Tyndale Bible
    1534: Church of England breaks with Rome
    1536: Calvin's Institutio Christianæ Religionis
    1560: Church of Scotland breaks with Rome

    No Protestants, WAS or otherwise, would have held Columbus' adherence to the only church in town against him.

  42. @KunioKun
    Tomorrow, David French will inform us of the Conservative Case for Indigenous People's Day (oh, and stay in Syria.)

    Won’t David French be too busy to comment, in his new role as as Senior Editor of The Dispatch? After all, the project is going to require great thoughtfulness.

    Former National Review columnist Jonah Goldberg and Steve Hayes of the now-defunct Weekly Standard have launched a conservative media company called The Dispatch.

    “We aim to make The Dispatch a place that thoughtful readers can come for conservative, fact-based news and commentary that doesn’t come either through the filter of the mainstream media or the increasingly boosterish media on the right. Importantly, we want to build a genuine community, with regular engagement between those of us who work here and the readers and listeners who will pay our salaries,” Goldberg and Hayes write on the company’s website….

    “We think there are many out there, of all ideological persuasions, hungry for what we are offering. As Basil King said, ‘Be bold and (((mighty forces))) will come to your aid,’” Goldberg and Hayes add on The Dispatch’s site. “We believe that the mightiest force out there will be the readers eager to come along for the ride. If we’re wrong, we’ll fail. But failure in a good cause is better than triumph in a bad one. Besides, if we didn’t think we were right about what many people desire, we wouldn’t be trying this in the first place.”

  43. celebrate Columbian Exchange Day by eating pizza made with New World tomato sauce and Old World wheat.

    A couple more ideas for Columbian Exchange Day:

    Aztec human sacrifice and Professor Magnus Soederlund’s neo-cannibalism. Interestingly both are superstitious rituals performed to modify the weather.

    New World syphilis and Old World gonorrhea. Exchanging those sounds like more fun than my previous suggestion.

    • Replies: @Dissident

    New World syphilis and Old World gonorrhea. Exchanging those sounds like more fun than my previous suggestion.
     
    Bug-chasing is part of who we are have become. Only inveterate homophobes and erotophobes would object.
  44. @Thatgirl
    I live in a town which now celebrates “indigenous people’s day.” This was imposed by the city council. I think, however, that most people are generally just flummoxed as to how to handle the day. I’ve noticed that many businesses and institutions now simply refer to “the holiday.” As in signs on stores that say “ we are closed for the holiday.” I guess they are afraid if they choose “indigenous people’s day” they will offend one group of people, while saying “Columbus day” will offend another, so they just punt on it.

    I live in a town which now celebrates “indigenous people’s day.” This was imposed by the city council. I think, however, that most people are generally just flummoxed as to how to handle the day.

    Have a happy Human Sacrifice Day…

  45. @Observator
    Columbus actually never set foot in North America and he was a Christian religious fanatic. He had regular conversations with Jesus and the Holy Spirit, who told him he was given the holy destiny to liberate Jerusalem with the gold he would discover in “the new world” they would lead him to discover – in fulfillment of John’s Apocalypse and ushering in the Second Coming, no less. He tried to peddle this crazy scheme to numerous royals but only Isabella of Spain was nutty enough to go along with it. She was a fellow religious loon, busy conducting a war to drive the Muslims out of Spain; she expelled all the Jews from her kingdom the same year Columbus set sail.

    The role that mentally ill people have played in the shaping of our country is detailed in John D. Gartner’s intriguing study, “The Hypomanic The Link Between Craziness and Success in America.” (Simon & Schuster, 2005)

    And “Columbia” was actually one of the several names that was proposed for the new United States (Fredonia was another, revived long after by Groucho). It means “peace” and has nothing to do with the Italian Catholic whom the WASP founders would have found repellent.

    Columba, in the original Latin, actually means “dove”; it means peace by extension.

    Perhaps ironically, Malcolm (originally Máel Coluim or Maol Choluim) means “devotee, or follower, of (the Irish) Saint Columba” – the namesake of the famous mariner.

    Thus, the Awokened must be careful about anything they name after blackety black black black “Malcolm X.” It’s all very fraught….

  46. @Chris from Gresham (though not for long)
    Steve,

    Off topic, but the Hard Rock hotel collapse....this looks to me like Invade The World Invite The World collateral damage. A catastrophic failure such as this one is a third world or developing nation thing. Developer was a crooked Indian, who else was involved who was a third worlder?

    … looks to me like Invade The World Invite The World collateral damage

    Yeah, but the Media and officialdom are full of apologists that will point out the first worlders involved; and stats indicating building accidents are no higher now than in the past (overlooking, of course, that they should be lower today).

  47. @Cagey Beast
    Apparently, the Native guy from Canada's west coast has been able to spin his anti-Columbus snark into a piece for ..... Teen Vogue. This is all so 2019:

    https://twitter.com/rjjago/status/1183844976821592066?s=20

    my Columbusing of Columbus’ birthplace

    LOL

    I wonder if he plans on building a road… or stringing an electric wire… or picking up the trash.

  48. Christopher Columbus should be commended for his skill in sailing and navigation, having made three successful trips across the Atlantic and having explored much of the Caribbean and having come within a whisker of sighting South America, and having sailed along the coast of Panama at a time when there was no accurate tool for measuring longtitude. or forecasting hurricanes.

    It is true that he blotted his record somewhat by forcing the Taino Indians in what is now the Dominican Republic to pan for gold in riverbeds and hand over more gold than they could produce, with brutal enforcements for noncompliance.

    However, Columbus himself was under a lot of pressure from his investors to make the voyages profitable, which in those days basically meant finding gold.

    Columbus was also recognized in his own time for his achievements in bringing Christianity to the heathen, which was regarded as a good thing at that time.

    Nevertheless, the Faro a Colon lighthouse stands at Santo Domingo as a memorial to the sailor and a resting place for one set of remains of the navigator. (Another DNA verified set is to be found in the cathedral in Seville, Spain. However it is possible that one set of remains belong to the father and another to the son.)

    The museum part is well worth a visit with excellent displays about Columbus’s voyages, and interesting displays contributed by several countries in the Americas.

    The Dominicans seem to have forgiven him for his trespasses, and we should too.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The Dominicans seem to have forgiven him for his trespasses, and we should too.
     
    The Galápagos are still officially the Columbus Islands. That's like Hawaii still being the Sandwiches.

    It's not even Hawaii anymore, but Hawai'i.
  49. @Chief Seattle
    King County, WA used to be named after an evil white man, but about 10 years ago the county government decided to keep the name but change the namesake to MLK, along with iconography showing the 60s civil rights leader glaring down at people.

    Seems that the challenge here is to find a Columbus with the right skin color and then we could keep the holiday.

    How about the film director Chris Columbus? He did the Home Alone movies and some pretty awful stuff quality wise, but according to Wikipedia he endorsed Hillary in 2016. He doesn’t address the skin color issue though maybe he can share the day with someone of color.

  50. “I went to the Post Office today, but it was closed,”

    Guess the memo got lost in the mail, huh?

  51. @Observator
    Columbus actually never set foot in North America and he was a Christian religious fanatic. He had regular conversations with Jesus and the Holy Spirit, who told him he was given the holy destiny to liberate Jerusalem with the gold he would discover in “the new world” they would lead him to discover – in fulfillment of John’s Apocalypse and ushering in the Second Coming, no less. He tried to peddle this crazy scheme to numerous royals but only Isabella of Spain was nutty enough to go along with it. She was a fellow religious loon, busy conducting a war to drive the Muslims out of Spain; she expelled all the Jews from her kingdom the same year Columbus set sail.

    The role that mentally ill people have played in the shaping of our country is detailed in John D. Gartner’s intriguing study, “The Hypomanic The Link Between Craziness and Success in America.” (Simon & Schuster, 2005)

    And “Columbia” was actually one of the several names that was proposed for the new United States (Fredonia was another, revived long after by Groucho). It means “peace” and has nothing to do with the Italian Catholic whom the WASP founders would have found repellent.

    As a footnote, “America” was named after another Italian explorer, Amerigo Vespucci, by a German cartographer, Martin Waldseemüller. Neither would have been comfortable in the homes of the Cabots or the Lodges.

  52. @AKAHorace
    Don't take it personally, it just gets cold here earlier.

    Don’t take it personally, it just gets cold here earlier.

    October I can see. But Monday? You get a three-day holiday. We get five and a half.

    Besides, I lived in St Paul for thirty years. That’s colder than at least eight of the provincial capitals. We’re not impressed!

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    Besides, I lived in St Paul for thirty years. That’s colder than at least eight of the provincial capitals. We’re not impressed!


    Yes, but imagine how much more unpleasant your winters would be in metric and both official languages.
  53. As a footnote, “America” was named after another Italian explorer, Amerigo Vespucci, by a German cartographer, Martin Waldseemüller. Neither would have been comfortable in the homes of the Cabots or the Lodges. The name “America” was designated as representing the entire Western Hemisphere, the name having long since been appropriated as representing our country. Thus Canadians, Cubans and Argentinians are all “Americans”. Our country, simply put, is the “United States”, not “America.” Another example of why, after 230 years, we still don’t know who the hell we are!

  54. @Jonathan Mason
    Christopher Columbus should be commended for his skill in sailing and navigation, having made three successful trips across the Atlantic and having explored much of the Caribbean and having come within a whisker of sighting South America, and having sailed along the coast of Panama at a time when there was no accurate tool for measuring longtitude. or forecasting hurricanes.

    It is true that he blotted his record somewhat by forcing the Taino Indians in what is now the Dominican Republic to pan for gold in riverbeds and hand over more gold than they could produce, with brutal enforcements for noncompliance.

    However, Columbus himself was under a lot of pressure from his investors to make the voyages profitable, which in those days basically meant finding gold.

    Columbus was also recognized in his own time for his achievements in bringing Christianity to the heathen, which was regarded as a good thing at that time.

    Nevertheless, the Faro a Colon lighthouse stands at Santo Domingo as a memorial to the sailor and a resting place for one set of remains of the navigator. (Another DNA verified set is to be found in the cathedral in Seville, Spain. However it is possible that one set of remains belong to the father and another to the son.)

    The museum part is well worth a visit with excellent displays about Columbus's voyages, and interesting displays contributed by several countries in the Americas.

    The Dominicans seem to have forgiven him for his trespasses, and we should too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNQ8EZ9zS2o

    The Dominicans seem to have forgiven him for his trespasses, and we should too.

    The Galápagos are still officially the Columbus Islands. That’s like Hawaii still being the Sandwiches.

    It’s not even Hawaii anymore, but Hawai’i.

  55. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "My guess is conservatives will eventually concede on the need to cancel or rename Columbus Day..."

    They'll lobby to have the named changed to recognize a "conservative" negro, like they did with Harriet Tubman on the $20, and then claim it's a victory over Democrats.

    They’ll lobby to have the named changed to recognize a “conservative” negro, like they did with Harriet Tubman on the $20

    Harriet helped remove from this country those who had no valid claim to be here, in the face of fierce opposition from the mad diversitarians of the day. What’s not to like?

    At least the Cherokees had a rightful claim to be in Georgia.

  56. @Father O'Hara
    Tom Brady wont be there. He doesn't eat tomatoes. They cause inflammation.

    Wow.

    As a tomato grower and fan of good music, I can tell you that Tom Brady is a clearly a fool.

    I’ve eaten homegrown tomato BLT sandwiches for breakfast, alternating with tomato and bacon omelets, for 3 months now. And I feel great!

  57. @Reg Cæsar
    Don't go to Canada during Columbus Day weekend. It's their Thanksgiving, and the cities empty, and the roads are clogged.

    Canada seems so familiar to us, then they go and do something that violates the laws of the universe, like having Thanksgiving on Monday. Eww...

    Even Nostradamus knew better.


    From the three water signs will be born a man
    who will celebrate Thursday as his holiday.
    His renown, praise, rule and power will grow
    on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East.


    https://www.crystalinks.com/quatrainscentury1.html

    What kind of quatraining is that? It doesn’t even rhyme, for cryin’ out loud. ;-}

    So much for the foresight of Nostradumbass.

  58. @istevefan
    My guess is conservatives will eventually concede on the need to cancel or rename Columbus Day, and then be totally surprised when the next demand is to remove the name Columbia from the name of Washington, D.C. Of course that may come before or after the name Washington is removed from that city's name. But the point is they will cave.

    I'm surprised Columbia University hasn't yet changed its name.

    That’d be a lot of work. I wonder how many signs would be involved, not to mention logos on the sides of city trucks, the road maps, and, of course, the stationary (stationary? What is this stationary of which you speak?).

    Let’s see: Indigenous Peoplus, Indigenousiana, Indigenous Peoplus, Ohio, Indigenous Peoplia, Tennessee, Indigenous Peoplia, Missouri, Indigenous Peoplia, S. Carolina, and then the big river out in Washington St./Oregon.

    As for Mordor on the Potomac, Peak Stupidity has long ago gotten on board in rejecting this oppressive name involving that white invader – we call it Washington, FS. (for Federal Shithole).

    Happy Columbus Day from Peak Stupidity on the RIGHT DAY, October 12th, when Columbus and his crew made landfall after a 6-week voyage!

  59. @Observator
    Columbus actually never set foot in North America and he was a Christian religious fanatic. He had regular conversations with Jesus and the Holy Spirit, who told him he was given the holy destiny to liberate Jerusalem with the gold he would discover in “the new world” they would lead him to discover – in fulfillment of John’s Apocalypse and ushering in the Second Coming, no less. He tried to peddle this crazy scheme to numerous royals but only Isabella of Spain was nutty enough to go along with it. She was a fellow religious loon, busy conducting a war to drive the Muslims out of Spain; she expelled all the Jews from her kingdom the same year Columbus set sail.

    The role that mentally ill people have played in the shaping of our country is detailed in John D. Gartner’s intriguing study, “The Hypomanic The Link Between Craziness and Success in America.” (Simon & Schuster, 2005)

    And “Columbia” was actually one of the several names that was proposed for the new United States (Fredonia was another, revived long after by Groucho). It means “peace” and has nothing to do with the Italian Catholic whom the WASP founders would have found repellent.
  60. @George
    "I went to the Post Office today, but it was closed"

    Why do government workers get a day off most people don't? Maybe rename it postal worker day.

    Why do government workers get a day off most people don’t? Maybe rename it postal worker day.

    Why don’t you take your smug, stupid ass down to your local post office and apply for the job of City Carrier Assistant, if you think it’s so easy? They’re always hiring for the position, and after a few weeks of work you’ll understand why. You will have the pleasure of spending your Columbus Day (and every federal holiday, and every Sunday) delivering Amazon packages for 12 hours for ungrateful slobs who cannot be bothered to get their dog food and cosmetics from the store. Then you can do it all over again the following Tuesday, with double mail volume on top of it all. Don’t forget your headlamp, ice cleats, and an empty bottle to piss in. But on the other hand, you’re getting seventeen bucks an hour, no benefits, and no time with your family, so it’s all worth it.

    How fun it is to bitch about the post office and bank being closed! Oh, those lazy government and quasi-governmental workers! But every time you say so, and every time you click Go to Checkout, you are “signalling a revealed preference” that you refuse to be deprived, even for a microsecond, of the services they provide for you. While banks and post offices do cease normal retail operations for one day, this is only in observance of the fact that the federal government, via its institutions, has decided to honor some particularly noteworthy individual or event. Only a relative handful of employees actually have the day off, and even they are going to pay for it when working through the backlog the next day. Everybody involved in the logistical, operations, and processing side of the business is still working through the holiday, because nobody seems able to survive without them.

    I am all in favor of giving everybody the day off, as long as we all accept what that entails. No Amazon deliveries, no stores open, no buying or selling, skeleton crews at hospitals, police stations, and power plants…in other words, a real holiday. I’m all in favor of making Sunday a sabbath again.Unfortunately, my position is an unpopular one. Time and again the people demonstrate, through their actions, that they don’t really want anything to do with it.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    In retrospect, I loved everything being closed on Sundays. Now everything opens after dinner on Thanksgiving!
  61. @Autochthon
    Well, really, the guy's name was Colombo, come to that – Cristoforo Colombo. In Spanish, he was called Cristóbal Colón, and he was probably called by that more than his birthname, given the course of his life. (I doubt he ever once spoke the words "Christopher Colombus" or even heard them spoken.)

    So, we can either celebrate by making it a custom on this day, after any parting, to quickly return and say "Excuse me; there's just one more thing..." followed by a seemingly innocuous question.

    Or, we could change all these names to "Colón" – maybe combining the affair with a promotion of colorectal screenings by the national association of gastroenterologists or whatever to make it more anodyne.

    Anyway, as the fellow working with Mexicans notes, actual mestizos and Amerindians don't generally mind Colombus (just as they don't care about the Redskins or the Braves, etc.) – you think the people in Colombia, for example, are changing the name of the place anytime soon?!

  62. @Brutusale
    For a few years Boston moonbats have been trying to get rid of Christopher Columbus Park on the waterfront in the North End, but as long as there are still members of the Cosa Nostra living there, fuggedaboudit.

    http://samdurant.net/defaced_monuments/Images/Boston/03.jpg

    Hipsters and yuppies are moving into an area of Chicago’s West Side that was Little Italy for over a century. There is a statue of Columbus in Arrigo Park in Little Italy that was vandalized a few years ago. Witnesses were able detain one of the purps. He was arrested but then got death threats from members of the Chicago Outfit. I think that they wanted to squash this from happening again in their neighborhood.

  63. Will it someday be Indigenous People, Ohio? Or, Georgia, Or New Mexico?

  64. @Thatgirl
    I live in a town which now celebrates “indigenous people’s day.” This was imposed by the city council. I think, however, that most people are generally just flummoxed as to how to handle the day. I’ve noticed that many businesses and institutions now simply refer to “the holiday.” As in signs on stores that say “ we are closed for the holiday.” I guess they are afraid if they choose “indigenous people’s day” they will offend one group of people, while saying “Columbus day” will offend another, so they just punt on it.

    What event, happening, discovery, holy day, holiday is being “celebrated” on Indigenous Peoples’ Day? What?

    I’m flummoxed in this little debate…

    Or is it just the usual Marxist dictate of people’s conduct?

  65. @Observator
    Columbus actually never set foot in North America and he was a Christian religious fanatic. He had regular conversations with Jesus and the Holy Spirit, who told him he was given the holy destiny to liberate Jerusalem with the gold he would discover in “the new world” they would lead him to discover – in fulfillment of John’s Apocalypse and ushering in the Second Coming, no less. He tried to peddle this crazy scheme to numerous royals but only Isabella of Spain was nutty enough to go along with it. She was a fellow religious loon, busy conducting a war to drive the Muslims out of Spain; she expelled all the Jews from her kingdom the same year Columbus set sail.

    The role that mentally ill people have played in the shaping of our country is detailed in John D. Gartner’s intriguing study, “The Hypomanic The Link Between Craziness and Success in America.” (Simon & Schuster, 2005)

    And “Columbia” was actually one of the several names that was proposed for the new United States (Fredonia was another, revived long after by Groucho). It means “peace” and has nothing to do with the Italian Catholic whom the WASP founders would have found repellent.

    And “Columbia” was actually one of the several names that was proposed for the new United States (Fredonia was another, revived long after by Groucho). It means “peace”

    “Columbus” means “dove.” “Columbia” means “land of doves” or “land of Columbus.”

    and has nothing to do with the Italian Catholic whom the WASP founders would have found repellent.

    Someone should have informed Charles Carroll of Carrollton, Thaddeus Kosciuszko and the Marquis de Lafayette. Not to mention noted Scotophile and religious fanatic Thomas Jefferson at his Charlotte’s Village country estate, “Wee Bray.” And the Scotsman for whom America was named, Amerigo Vespucci.

    Also

    1492: Columbus sails the ocean blue
    1506: Columbus dies
    1517: Luther’s 95 Theses
    1521: Luther excommunicated
    1526: Tyndale Bible
    1534: Church of England breaks with Rome
    1536: Calvin’s Institutio Christianæ Religionis
    1560: Church of Scotland breaks with Rome

    No Protestants, WAS or otherwise, would have held Columbus’ adherence to the only church in town against him.

  66. @Anonymous
    I work a low-skill wage job and all my Mexican coworkers called it "Columbus Day" and seemed to have a generally positive opinion of the Holiday and the man, for what it's worth.

    A real Mexican would call it Dia de La Raza.

  67. I went to the Post Office today, but it was closed, and then to the bank, but it was closed too. A lot of people rolled up and were equally surprised. I guess we’d all assumed that, somewhere along the line, Columbus had been Canceled.

    But Google had some doodle about a Belgian physicist instead of Columbus, and who are the banks and the post office compared to Google?

  68. @Harry Baldwin
    I live in a town which now celebrates “indigenous people’s day.”

    Columbus Day is now quite fraught, what with his 15th-century attitudes about colonialism and indigenous people. We need a new holiday to replace it, but "Indigenous People's Day" is too specific and doesn't suggest any appropriate activities. I propose that a day be set aside every year on which the 40-percent or so of Americans who hate this country could celebrate their passion. Call it "Hate America Day." Bonfires of flags, MAGA hats, Christmas wreaths, NASCAR memorabilia, and books written before wokedness could be part of the festivities. Any statues that haven't already been torn down could be located and demolished.

    This holiday would finally give our media, academia, celebrities, progressives, and recent Third World immigrants a holiday they can truly get behind.

    ‘… I propose that a day be set aside every year on which the 40-percent or so of Americans who hate this country could celebrate their passion. Call it “Hate America Day.” …’

    This is a great idea. Your post is getting wider distribution.

  69. They should get rid of Columbus Day just so we don’t have to hear all of the hectoring from the PC crowd.

    • Replies: @gabriel alberton
    After all, what is the historical record of surrendering or capitulating to one's enemy?
  70. @Intelligent Dasein

    Why do government workers get a day off most people don’t? Maybe rename it postal worker day.
     
    Why don't you take your smug, stupid ass down to your local post office and apply for the job of City Carrier Assistant, if you think it's so easy? They're always hiring for the position, and after a few weeks of work you'll understand why. You will have the pleasure of spending your Columbus Day (and every federal holiday, and every Sunday) delivering Amazon packages for 12 hours for ungrateful slobs who cannot be bothered to get their dog food and cosmetics from the store. Then you can do it all over again the following Tuesday, with double mail volume on top of it all. Don't forget your headlamp, ice cleats, and an empty bottle to piss in. But on the other hand, you're getting seventeen bucks an hour, no benefits, and no time with your family, so it's all worth it.

    How fun it is to bitch about the post office and bank being closed! Oh, those lazy government and quasi-governmental workers! But every time you say so, and every time you click Go to Checkout, you are "signalling a revealed preference" that you refuse to be deprived, even for a microsecond, of the services they provide for you. While banks and post offices do cease normal retail operations for one day, this is only in observance of the fact that the federal government, via its institutions, has decided to honor some particularly noteworthy individual or event. Only a relative handful of employees actually have the day off, and even they are going to pay for it when working through the backlog the next day. Everybody involved in the logistical, operations, and processing side of the business is still working through the holiday, because nobody seems able to survive without them.

    I am all in favor of giving everybody the day off, as long as we all accept what that entails. No Amazon deliveries, no stores open, no buying or selling, skeleton crews at hospitals, police stations, and power plants...in other words, a real holiday. I'm all in favor of making Sunday a sabbath again.Unfortunately, my position is an unpopular one. Time and again the people demonstrate, through their actions, that they don't really want anything to do with it.

    In retrospect, I loved everything being closed on Sundays. Now everything opens after dinner on Thanksgiving!

  71. @Chris from Gresham (though not for long)
    Steve,

    Off topic, but the Hard Rock hotel collapse....this looks to me like Invade The World Invite The World collateral damage. A catastrophic failure such as this one is a third world or developing nation thing. Developer was a crooked Indian, who else was involved who was a third worlder?

    I was thinking the same thing…….hire the cheapest and get cheap shit.

  72. @Autochthon
    Well, really, the guy's name was Colombo, come to that – Cristoforo Colombo. In Spanish, he was called Cristóbal Colón, and he was probably called by that more than his birthname, given the course of his life. (I doubt he ever once spoke the words "Christopher Colombus" or even heard them spoken.)

    So, we can either celebrate by making it a custom on this day, after any parting, to quickly return and say "Excuse me; there's just one more thing..." followed by a seemingly innocuous question.

    Or, we could change all these names to "Colón" – maybe combining the affair with a promotion of colorectal screenings by the national association of gastroenterologists or whatever to make it more anodyne.

    Anyway, as the fellow working with Mexicans notes, actual mestizos and Amerindians don't generally mind Colombus (just as they don't care about the Redskins or the Braves, etc.) – you think the people in Colombia, for example, are changing the name of the place anytime soon?!

    Are you saying that colony, colonist and colonial all are derived from the original last name of Colombus? Cool.

  73. @Thatgirl
    I live in a town which now celebrates “indigenous people’s day.” This was imposed by the city council. I think, however, that most people are generally just flummoxed as to how to handle the day. I’ve noticed that many businesses and institutions now simply refer to “the holiday.” As in signs on stores that say “ we are closed for the holiday.” I guess they are afraid if they choose “indigenous people’s day” they will offend one group of people, while saying “Columbus day” will offend another, so they just punt on it.

    “Indigenous People” lumps in, for example, Algonquin with Iroquois–traditional enemies.

    Who thinks up this stuff anyway?

  74. @Chief Seattle
    King County, WA used to be named after an evil white man, but about 10 years ago the county government decided to keep the name but change the namesake to MLK, along with iconography showing the 60s civil rights leader glaring down at people.

    Seems that the challenge here is to find a Columbus with the right skin color and then we could keep the holiday.

    Seems easier to just insist Columbus was black, like the ancient Egyptians.

  75. @Mike Zwick
    They should get rid of Columbus Day just so we don't have to hear all of the hectoring from the PC crowd.

    After all, what is the historical record of surrendering or capitulating to one’s enemy?

  76. homosexuals are celebrating Columbian exchange every day, trading STDs from across the ocean from the Old World and New world alike.

    gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, and HIV for everybody.

    Time magazine can’t figure out why STD rates are at all time highs

    check out this passage from the article:

    “On paper, it seems like STD rates should be dropping. Condom use is up. Teenagers and millennials are having less sex with fewer partners than generations past. Stigmas around sexuality and sexual health are beginning to break down. And yet, for four consecutive years, STD rates have broken records. Why?”

    homosexuals were normalized and unleashed on the world with dating apps, but we’re not sure why STD rates are skyrocketing.

    this has to be the new “Violent crime rates are falling, yet the prison population continues to climb. Experts baffled.”

  77. Princeton, NJ dropped Columbus Day for Indigenous Peoples Day…..The holiday previously known as Columbus Day will now be known as Indigenous Peoples Day, according to a resolution passed unanimously on September 9.

    Princeton is not the only city in New Jersey to have changed the name, though it is just the second. In 2017, Newark mayor Ras Baraka changed the name in his city using an executive order. The schools were still closed in Newark on Monday to celebrate Indigenous Peoples Day.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Princeton is not the only city in New Jersey to have changed the name, though it is just the second. In 2017, Newark mayor Ras Baraka changed the name in his city using an executive order.
     
    The north end of Newark, by Branch Brook Park, used to be somewhat Italian. Have they all left, or just been reduced to inconsequentiality?

    The Portuguese are still pretty strong there. Maybe it should be Vasco da Gama Day, or Magellan's.

    Lenni Lenape Day is also catchy, but the unlettered might misinterpret that as Italian, too.
  78. @Anonymous
    I work a low-skill wage job and all my Mexican coworkers called it "Columbus Day" and seemed to have a generally positive opinion of the Holiday and the man, for what it's worth.

    I’d be surprised if most Mexicans have even heard of Columbus Day. Most private sector employees don’t get Columbus Day off.

    It’s a federal holiday, so federal government workers get off, but only in 21 states do state government workers get off.

  79. @Reg Cæsar

    Don’t take it personally, it just gets cold here earlier.
     
    October I can see. But Monday? You get a three-day holiday. We get five and a half.

    Besides, I lived in St Paul for thirty years. That's colder than at least eight of the provincial capitals. We're not impressed!

    Besides, I lived in St Paul for thirty years. That’s colder than at least eight of the provincial capitals. We’re not impressed!

    Yes, but imagine how much more unpleasant your winters would be in metric and both official languages.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, but imagine how much more unpleasant your winters would be in metric and both official languages.
     
    That's two more official languages than we have!

    As for metric vs customary, I think of the Quebecois airline pilot who said he'd no sooner speak French in the cockpit than he would English in the bedroom.
    My kids are half-pints, not quarter-liters.
  80. @Anonymous
    Every immigrant who followed is a co-murderer since he or she participated in the taking of the New World from the brown/red natives.

    They should replace Columbus Day with Undocumented Immigrants Day. It would be more inclusive. Why should Columbus get all the credit?

  81. @Chief Seattle
    King County, WA used to be named after an evil white man, but about 10 years ago the county government decided to keep the name but change the namesake to MLK, along with iconography showing the 60s civil rights leader glaring down at people.

    Seems that the challenge here is to find a Columbus with the right skin color and then we could keep the holiday.

    I nominate Bartolo Colon. We could call it Big Sexy Day.

  82. @Thatgirl
    I live in a town which now celebrates “indigenous people’s day.” This was imposed by the city council. I think, however, that most people are generally just flummoxed as to how to handle the day. I’ve noticed that many businesses and institutions now simply refer to “the holiday.” As in signs on stores that say “ we are closed for the holiday.” I guess they are afraid if they choose “indigenous people’s day” they will offend one group of people, while saying “Columbus day” will offend another, so they just punt on it.

    What is wrong with”Celebrating by getting drunk”
    The natives do it.

    Any danger of celebrating this one in Europe?

  83. @AKAHorace
    Besides, I lived in St Paul for thirty years. That’s colder than at least eight of the provincial capitals. We’re not impressed!


    Yes, but imagine how much more unpleasant your winters would be in metric and both official languages.

    Yes, but imagine how much more unpleasant your winters would be in metric and both official languages.

    That’s two more official languages than we have!

    As for metric vs customary, I think of the Quebecois airline pilot who said he’d no sooner speak French in the cockpit than he would English in the bedroom.
    My kids are half-pints, not quarter-liters.

  84. @Travis
    Princeton, NJ dropped Columbus Day for Indigenous Peoples Day.....The holiday previously known as Columbus Day will now be known as Indigenous Peoples Day, according to a resolution passed unanimously on September 9.

    Princeton is not the only city in New Jersey to have changed the name, though it is just the second. In 2017, Newark mayor Ras Baraka changed the name in his city using an executive order. The schools were still closed in Newark on Monday to celebrate Indigenous Peoples Day.

    Princeton is not the only city in New Jersey to have changed the name, though it is just the second. In 2017, Newark mayor Ras Baraka changed the name in his city using an executive order.

    The north end of Newark, by Branch Brook Park, used to be somewhat Italian. Have they all left, or just been reduced to inconsequentiality?

    The Portuguese are still pretty strong there. Maybe it should be Vasco da Gama Day, or Magellan’s.

    Lenni Lenape Day is also catchy, but the unlettered might misinterpret that as Italian, too.

  85. @istevefan
    My guess is conservatives will eventually concede on the need to cancel or rename Columbus Day, and then be totally surprised when the next demand is to remove the name Columbia from the name of Washington, D.C. Of course that may come before or after the name Washington is removed from that city's name. But the point is they will cave.

    I'm surprised Columbia University hasn't yet changed its name.

    Inevitable that Columbus Day will go. And if it weren’t already President’s Day, but was just Washington’s Birthday, that would also eventually go, since Washington had slaves.

    I get that there are valid grievances from Native Americans, and descendants of slaves. My non politically correct solution would be to leave names and statues as they are, and add additional statues, plaques, etc to recognize the viewpoints of others. But that won’t fly. And we will never reach a level where people will be satisfied. There will always be a new level of grievance brought up that needs to be addressed

  86. My non politically correct solution would be to leave names and statues as they are, and add additional statues, plaques, etc to recognize the viewpoints of others.

    Why not just add some additional holidays? We could use a few more. Like Little Bighorn Day, Spring Break, or Black Friday. People love to dress up and party and re-enact and go shopping. We could also have Dred Scott Day on the first Tuesday in November ever 4 years.

    If any holidays need to be replaced, it should be religious ones, like Christmas Day.

  87. • Replies: @MEH 0910
    OT:
    https://twitter.com/StudioCityPatch/status/1185072936958468096
  88. @Steve in Greensboro

    celebrate Columbian Exchange Day by eating pizza made with New World tomato sauce and Old World wheat.
     
    A couple more ideas for Columbian Exchange Day:

    Aztec human sacrifice and Professor Magnus Soederlund's neo-cannibalism. Interestingly both are superstitious rituals performed to modify the weather.

    New World syphilis and Old World gonorrhea. Exchanging those sounds like more fun than my previous suggestion.

    New World syphilis and Old World gonorrhea. Exchanging those sounds like more fun than my previous suggestion.

    Bug-chasing is part of who we are have become. Only inveterate homophobes and erotophobes would object.

  89. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/StudioCityPatch/status/1183813039235174408

    OT:

  90. @Chief Seattle
    King County, WA used to be named after an evil white man, but about 10 years ago the county government decided to keep the name but change the namesake to MLK, along with iconography showing the 60s civil rights leader glaring down at people.

    Seems that the challenge here is to find a Columbus with the right skin color and then we could keep the holiday.

    Still white, but at least not a genocider.

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