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Britain is being plagued by Acid Violence, so it’s time for Acid Control laws. From the Daily Mail:

Ministers will propose new laws on buying acid after London is hit by wave of attacks using corrosive liquids

… Comes as ministers propose tough laws on buying acid after recent crime wave

On Thursday night there were five attacks across London in a 72-minute spree …

By Chris Greenwood and George Odling For The Daily Mail
PUBLISHED: 04:21 EDT, 15 July 2017

New rules on corrosive substances are being considered by the Government after demands for new legislation to tackle the acid attack menace.

… Campaigners want to see it made harder to purchase potentially deadly chemicals.

But they have already been warned it is virtually impossible to completely block them as they have many common uses, especially as drain cleaners….

Experts say acid is becoming the weapon of choice for many criminals, say experts.

This is because while attacking someone with a corrosive substance is illegal, it is not illegal to carry.

Caustic fluid such as sulphuric acid or drain cleaner can be bought online in or in shops for as little as £7 or £8 a litre, and there is no age restriction on its purchase. …

Executive director of the Acid Survivors Trust, Jaf Shah, said carrying acid in public should carry the same penalty as possessing a knife after the number of similar incidents had ‘effectively doubled’ in the UK over three years.

… Recorded numbers of acid attacks in Britain are now higher than in countries such as Colombia, India and Pakistan. …

The number of assaults involving corrosive substances has risen by more than 30 per cent in the last two years. …

There have been more than 1,800 reports of acid used in murders, robberies and rapes since 2010 and the frequency of attacks is increasing. … Last year there were 454 crimes in London in which a corrosive was used or used as a threat, compared to 261 in 2015, according to the Met.

Almost a third of these were carried out in the east London borough of Newham.

Newham, five miles east of St. Paul’s Cathedral in City of London, is the site of the 2012 Olympic Stadium. Diversity is Newham’s strength:

16.7% White British
0.7% White Irish
0.2% White Gypsy or Irish Traveller
11.4% Other White
1.3% White & Black Caribbean
1.1% White & Black African
0.9% White & Asian
1.3% Other Mixed
13.8% Indian
9.8% Pakistani
12.1% Bangladeshi
1.3% Chinese
6.5% Other Asian
12.3% Black African
4.9% Black Caribbean
2.4% Other Black
1.1% Arab
2.3% Other

 
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  1. JackOH says:

    What the devil is the UK doing with its anti-gun and anti-knife laws?

    Back when I was thinking of buying a handgun for self-defense after a possible home invasion, I stumbled across a UK-based anti-knife propaganda site. I thought the site was a parody of smother government/nanny state intrusiveness that infantilized its readers. The site was real. I don’t recall details, but they were very much of the interrogative style meant to reveal “error”. Stuff like: “Does carrying a knife make you feel better?” Weren’t the British a tough, sensible people that had a punctilious concern for individual liberty at one time?

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Weren’t the British a tough, sensible people that had a punctilious concern for individual liberty at one time?
     
    You've got to go back a ways. What, 50 years, maybe?

    It's like the people in Massachusetts - theoretically there should be a bunch of descendants of the patriots that started it all at Lexington and Concord, but you look around, and it's left-wing Massholes all the way down. Have a bunch of mutations happened? Is it closer to the Sun? That UV can wreak havoc on your genes.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    "Weren’t the British a tough, sensible people that had a punctilious concern for individual liberty at one time?"

    Yes, and they still are to a great extent, But 'London' and 'British' are two different things. We end up having our liberty taken away because "other people" don't act like the British do. That's why we have to take our belts off at airports and have our internet communications monitored 24/7 (although some of that monitoring it to help prevent the natives doing anything about it).

    Here's a list of where acid attacls took place in London 2011-2016 i.e. before "the youth" realised it was the most efficient way of taking out a scooter rider whose bike you wanted to nick.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/acid-attack-capital-britain-revealed-10008792

    1 - Newham - 398
    2 - Barking & Dagenham - 134
    3 - Tower Hamlets - 84
    4 - Havering - 81
    5 - Redbridge - 64
    6 - Hackney - 45
    7 - Barnet - 44
    8 - Croydon - 42
    9 - Ealing - 40
    10 - Hillingdon - 36
    11 - Islington - 34
    12 - Hounslow - 31
    13 - Hammersmith & Fulham - 30
    14 - Brent - 30
    15 - Waltham Forest - 29
    16 - Greenwich 28
    17 - Harrow - 27
    18 - Lewisham - 27
    19 - Sutton - 27
    20 - Richmond-upon-Thames - 25
    21 - Enfield - 26
    22 - Southwark - 24
    23 - Westminster - 24
    24 - Camden - 24
    25 - Bromley - 19
    26 - Merton - 19
    27 - Haringey - 18
    28 - Bexley - 17
    29 - Wandsworth - 17
    30 - Kingston upon Thames - 16
    31 - Lambeth - 15
    32 - Kensington & Chelsea - 15


    I did a bit of digging when these figures came out, easier to draw negative than positive conclusions. It's not black Caribbean people per se, unless Brent, Brixton (part of Lambeth) and Wandsworth have been more reconquista'd (by whites) than I realise, because they have low numbers. It's not Sikhs and Hindus - Harrow, Houslow, Hillingdon are all low. Not whites (Richmond, Kingston).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_boroughs

    That leaves Bangladeshi Muslims (moving out from the centre 32% Tower Hamlets, 12% Newham, 4% Barking), Black Africans (3.6%, 12.3%, 15.4%) or maybe White Other (12.4%, 11.4%, 7.8% - Albanian? Kosovan? Polish? who knows?).

    One thing that strikes me is that these boroughs are probably changing more than most in London, so perhaps it's a question of which bunch of young men control the streets. Lambeth is changing too, but young white graduates don't go in for this sort of thing.

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    The British Olympic pistol shooting team has to practice in France.

    Benighted Blighty.
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  2. Europeans are so weak on crime it’s ridiculous. Get tough enough on acid attacks (life in prison, at a minimum) and it will mostly stop. Europeans have a criminal justice system designed for people who basically don’t commit crimes!

    Diversity is Newham’s strength

    Diversity depends entirely on the ingredients. How many of the 1.3% Chinese are committing crimes? What is the crime level of Hindu Indians?

    When Trump said Mexico wasn’t sending their best, everyone should have applauded. It was the most insightful comment about immigration by any major American political figure.

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    • Replies: @Daniel H
    >>Get tough enough on acid attacks (life in prison, at a minimum) and it will mostly stop

    I don't think the attacks will stop. Muslims - due to generally low IQ - seem to be somewhat immune to exemplary sanctions that deter the typical white man.

    England and other European nations are facing some stark choices: 1) Forcible deportation of Muslims to lands of origin. 2) Division of the nation state and forcible deportation and quarantine of Muslims to Muslim zones, 3) all out civil war and the killing of many Muslims (along with many whites), followed up by either of the previous mentioned alternatives 4) submission to their new Muslim overlords.

    If you can think of any other alternatives I would like to hear them.

    , @songbird
    The problem with the Chinese and Hindus is that they pretty overwhelmingly support open immigration - and that is quite a significant problem.
    , @Bill B.

    Diversity depends entirely on the ingredients. How many of the 1.3% Chinese are committing crimes? What is the crime level of Hindu Indians?
     
    I take your point.

    But just because so many Muslim groups are so awful doesn't make the Chinese, say, clean. I talked to the head of the Met's Triad Unit 20 years ago who told me that all Chinese restaurants in London pay protection money to the triads.

    Chinese crime tends to be low profile and intra-ethnic at least in the first couple of generations.

    Many ethnic groups coming from intensely family or clan orientated countries to the West network within their ethnie to explore ways of exploiting the rich pickings available to ruthlessly focused people cooperating with trusted associates.
    , @Saxon
    All other groups will vote against your interests, regardless of how little crime they commit. Even these groups you mention still vote for communist-style redistributory policies to enrich themselves at the native whites' expense. In the US 2016 election, EVERY SINGLE group aside from white males and females voted more for Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump and white females just barely. In 2020 will the demographics have shifted far enough that Donald Trump has no chance for re-election, assuming he even keeps his base happy enough for that? Perhaps so.

    All other groups will act in extremely nepotistic and otherwise ethnocentric ways while demanding that your group be atomized individuals. By the way, game theory shows ethnocentrism wins every time.

    No one can show any actual overall benefit to any kind of racially alien immigration that changes your country's demographics any more than a tiny, less than 1% amount.
    , @peterike

    What is the crime level of Hindu Indians?

     

    Street crime is very small, almost nonexistent. But they do PLENTY of white collar crime. And besides, the presence of Hindus is corrosive to a white nation. You shouldn't need any other reason to keep them out, no matter their economic contribution, education levels, etc. None of that means a damn thing, unless you write for The Economist.
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  3. Bill P says:

    Sounds like a great scheme. Now if you want to clean up your place you’ll have to get a license from the Department of Caustic Substances, a brand new bureaucracy filled with overpaid, lazy blacks and South Asians who don’t care if your bathtub is clogged and needs to be fixed now so you can take a shower.

    Britons will get dirtier, smellier and poorer, and the government will be happy.

    The upshot is that instead of having their faces melted by acid, victims will now be clubbed on the head with sticks, just like it was in the Paleolithic. In fact, everything will be more like the Paleolithic, so we’ll be fighting the good fight against climate change, too.

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    "South Asians who don’t care if your bathtub is clogged and needs to be fixed now so you can take a shower."

    They wouldnt care if their own bathtub was clogged and they couldnt take a shower.
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  4. TheJester says:

    Ban guns and then knives in the British state’s apparently hopeless attempt t0 suppress random violence … and behold there is acid. At some point, one must conclude that the acid-based violence is a function of new cultural inputs since this is not part of the native, law-abiding British culture we’ve known for a millennium.

    What changed? Which immigrant culture enriching the native British culture has a tradition of acid attacks … on women primarily but why not on anyone?

    A warning! If this cultural fad reaches the United States, we have the Second Amendment to our Constitution. Many of us are armed … and if the alien immigrant invasion continues this will become universal.

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  5. Dr. X says:

    Britain is being plagued by Acid Violence, so it’s time for Acid Control laws.

    Cops and government officials will have to be exempt, of course.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    It seems unavailable handily online, but I well remember the handiwork of Sheriff Josh Acid (played masterfully by Mel Gibson) in an episode from Saturday Night Live in the days when it was a funny sketch comedy show and not a screeching parade of Marxist preaching.

    If you have access, it's well worth revisiting that skit to see how effective a law man can be with a vial of acid. My research indicates it was from the sixteenth episode of the fourteenth season.
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  6. Seems like as good a time as any to bump Christopher Hitchens’s piece about the printer toner cartridge bomb plot from way back when. A subsequent piece in a jihadi magazine remarked about the entirely predictable ban on toner cartridges that resulted: “Who is the genius who came up with this suggestion? Do you think we have nothing to send but printers?”

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2010/11/dont_be_an_ass_about_airport_security.html

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    • Replies: @slumber_j
    From the Hitchens piece:

    The deceased assailant was the brother of Khalid Ibrahim Al Aseery, the suspected bomb-specialist of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula and the man sought in connection with the underpants and toner attempts. In the Jeddah case, the lethal charge of PETN was concealed in the would-be assassin's rectum.
     
    Well, that one's easy: ban assholes!
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  7. Oh, you totally missed out on VAN CONTROL!

    Here’s the original link, but be aware that is msn. Linking to it gave me a funny feeling in the pit of my stomach.

    “What do we want?
    Van Control!
    When do we want it?
    We want it NOW!, as soon as our yard guys and plumbers get done with the house!”

    I think it is Mr. Kersey who says it best: “This is why we can’t have nice things.” Nobody would have heard of an acid attack in Britain before this invasion. It’s just like the fact that nobody in America worried about bedbugs, Hepatitis, or TB from when they were wiped many years ago until OUR invasion.

    Brenda Walker on VDare writes great articles about this kind of human factors effects of the immigration invasion.

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    • Replies: @ANON
    If hire companies were compelled to monitor van renters they would be accused of hate crime, imprisoned and their businesses confiscated on grounds of race discrimination.
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  8. Goatweed says:

    Has anyone identified the two teens involved in the latest attacks?

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    • Replies: @Fredrik
    I'm looking for those names too.

    I don't buy it that it will be Muslims and/or Asians.

    I'm certain it's another group and I'm not talking about Polish plumbers.
    , @Nobody
    Not sure, but I heard 2 Amish kids are being looked for...
    , @Expletive Deleted
    One of these twits came unstuck trying to outrun the Old Bill. He was of course a good boy, with stellar sporting prospects, and he dindu nuffin. His rear-gunner has survived, for the meantime.

    He added: “Lewis went to school with my son and was a good boy as far as we could see. We are all just so sad that this has happened. I can’t believe it.”
    Scotland Yard said police were called to Kingsland Road in Dalston yesterday following reports of a theft — the latest in a spate of street muggings by moped riders in the area.
    Lewis’s moped was spotted in nearby Stamford Road half an hour later and officers launched a pursuit when it failed to stop.
     
    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/clapton-crash-first-picture-of-teenager-lewis-johnson-who-was-killed-in-moped-smash-during-police-a3176686.html
    They've discovered that if you aren't wearing the government-mandated helmet while on one of these monkey-bikes, the law is not permitted to give chase but must follow at a respectful speed and distance while having noses gleefully thumbed at them.
    White-van-man put an end to that ploy in this case. I expect to see a lot more accidents involving over-crewed mopeds and proles' trucks. People are sick to death of it all, and the acid attacks stepped over some sort of invisible line of revulsion.
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  9. Not to be pedantic, but drain cleaner is actually strongly alkaline.

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Hey, thank you, I.D., and I'm pissed at myself for not even noticing that. It's probably a different Moslem sect that uses it - the Shiites are all about low pH fluids, and the Sunnis believe in high pH. This causes a lot of conflict, and it explains that when the 2 sects come together .... WATCH OUT!

    All that's left is water and a small whiff of Hydrogen (oh, and a few severed heads and blown-up airliners).
    , @M_Young
    LOL, beat me to it.
    , @M_Young
    BTW alkali is from Arabic, kali, meaning the calcified ashes of Saltwort (or something).

    Without Arabs we'd all have clogged drains, therefore we must allow mass immigration of Arabs!

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/alkali
    , @Rob McX
    All the drain cleaner I've seen in the last few years is sulphuric acid, around 85 per cent acid and the rest water. That makes it stronger than what's in a car battery.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    Either will do. Depends on how strong your nerves are, as UK soil & waste plumbing could be well over a century old, particularly in That London, fragile though age, and made of all sorts of unlikely materials.
    http://www.wickes.co.uk/Rhino-High-Strength-Drain-Unblocker-1L/p/143981
    http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/tesco-price-comparison/Household_Cleaning/Boots_Caustic_Soda_Drain_Cleaner_500g.html
    The sulphuric sort does a cracking job on showers and baths, where hair (just hair, I hope) is the main culprit. Fizzes and pops like the devil. The caustic is great for kitchen grease.
    , @Autochthon
    True, though some brands do use acids. More to your point: the enstupidation continues apace, and I expect ninety per cent of the populace don't know the difference between an acid and a base (though it's basic knowledge from about a fourth-grade class in physical scienc).
    , @Cloudswrest
    Expand your knowledge

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Liquid-Lightning-Buffered-Sulfuric-Acid-Drain-Cleaner/17133944
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  10. Tony says:
    @Bill P
    Sounds like a great scheme. Now if you want to clean up your place you'll have to get a license from the Department of Caustic Substances, a brand new bureaucracy filled with overpaid, lazy blacks and South Asians who don't care if your bathtub is clogged and needs to be fixed now so you can take a shower.

    Britons will get dirtier, smellier and poorer, and the government will be happy.

    The upshot is that instead of having their faces melted by acid, victims will now be clubbed on the head with sticks, just like it was in the Paleolithic. In fact, everything will be more like the Paleolithic, so we'll be fighting the good fight against climate change, too.

    “South Asians who don’t care if your bathtub is clogged and needs to be fixed now so you can take a shower.”

    They wouldnt care if their own bathtub was clogged and they couldnt take a shower.

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  11. @JackOH
    What the devil is the UK doing with its anti-gun and anti-knife laws?

    Back when I was thinking of buying a handgun for self-defense after a possible home invasion, I stumbled across a UK-based anti-knife propaganda site. I thought the site was a parody of smother government/nanny state intrusiveness that infantilized its readers. The site was real. I don't recall details, but they were very much of the interrogative style meant to reveal "error". Stuff like: "Does carrying a knife make you feel better?" Weren't the British a tough, sensible people that had a punctilious concern for individual liberty at one time?

    Weren’t the British a tough, sensible people that had a punctilious concern for individual liberty at one time?

    You’ve got to go back a ways. What, 50 years, maybe?

    It’s like the people in Massachusetts – theoretically there should be a bunch of descendants of the patriots that started it all at Lexington and Concord, but you look around, and it’s left-wing Massholes all the way down. Have a bunch of mutations happened? Is it closer to the Sun? That UV can wreak havoc on your genes.

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    • Replies: @JackOH
    Achmed, thanks. You gotta wonder about the quality of thought behind criminalization and confiscation of, well, what's next, broom handles and table legs? If criminalization and confiscation were right on the money, America's prisons would be among the safest places on earth.

    Reality is that disarming a lawful citizenry by prohibition or cumbersome regulation essentially up-arms criminals and further empowers government.

    , @Thea
    People just weren't designed to have such comfortable civilized lifestyles. The struggle of the battle and uncertainty seems to bring out the best.

    Abundance of idleness & abundance of bread leaves us a bunch of weak sissies.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    theoretically there should be a bunch of descendants of the patriots that started it all at Lexington and Concord, but you look around, and it’s left-wing Massholes all the way down. Have a bunch of mutations happened? Is it closer to the Sun?
     
    Do what Tenney Frank did with Roman inscriptions-- just look at the change in surnames.

    Craig R Whitney, of the NYT and a relative of Eli, wrote a somewhat balanced treatise on the issue: http://craigrwhitney.com/projects.html
    , @Brutusale
    Every September about 250,000 people between the ages of 18 and 23 arrive in Greater Boston to attend one of the 80+ colleges and universities withing a 25 mile radius of the city, 55 of them inside Route 128. They come from all over the country, indeed the world, to the MA Indoctrination Centers like Harvard or Smith. A certain number of them, probably centrist or left-leaning when they got here, spend the next 4-8 years going Full Moonbat.

    Upon graduation, a certain number find the political atmosphere here more amenable than the benighted Flyover Country they left and decide to stay.

    That's what drives the politics here.

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  12. Annoymous says:

    Meanwhile, Paris is lost…

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    I guess Paris wasn't worth a Mass after all...
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  13. @Intelligent Dasein
    Not to be pedantic, but drain cleaner is actually strongly alkaline.

    Hey, thank you, I.D., and I’m pissed at myself for not even noticing that. It’s probably a different Moslem sect that uses it – the Shiites are all about low pH fluids, and the Sunnis believe in high pH. This causes a lot of conflict, and it explains that when the 2 sects come together …. WATCH OUT!

    All that’s left is water and a small whiff of Hydrogen (oh, and a few severed heads and blown-up airliners).

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    the Shiites are all about low pH
     
    Seriously, how much of the terrorism and mayhem perpetrated by muslims in the West is done by Shiites? I have no figures, but it seems to be that close to 100 percent is caused by the Sunnis. Does anyone have any examples of shiites rampaging in the West?
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  14. ANON says: • Disclaimer

    A few years ago there was a serious proposal to register all purchases of knives, especially kitchen knives.

    If it’s made illegal to carry drain cleaner White householders will be arrested but never ever the Muslims who throw acid in people’s faces.

    There is a businessman named Khan whose face was destroyed by acid. Reading between the lines is sounds like extortion. “Pay a weekly fee or something bad will happen.” Perhaps that’s the latest extortion threat by the Muslim criminals. Extortion is a standard thing in Muslim societies with no real nation wide rule of law.

    Usually acid attacks are revenge and a specific person is targeted. But these random attacks are just a manifestation of Muslim supremacy, like the rapes and sex slavery of a million White British girls with the cooperation of UK police and local government.

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  15. Daniel H says:
    @Judah Benjamin Hur
    Europeans are so weak on crime it's ridiculous. Get tough enough on acid attacks (life in prison, at a minimum) and it will mostly stop. Europeans have a criminal justice system designed for people who basically don't commit crimes!


    Diversity is Newham’s strength
     
    Diversity depends entirely on the ingredients. How many of the 1.3% Chinese are committing crimes? What is the crime level of Hindu Indians?

    When Trump said Mexico wasn't sending their best, everyone should have applauded. It was the most insightful comment about immigration by any major American political figure.

    >>Get tough enough on acid attacks (life in prison, at a minimum) and it will mostly stop

    I don’t think the attacks will stop. Muslims – due to generally low IQ – seem to be somewhat immune to exemplary sanctions that deter the typical white man.

    England and other European nations are facing some stark choices: 1) Forcible deportation of Muslims to lands of origin. 2) Division of the nation state and forcible deportation and quarantine of Muslims to Muslim zones, 3) all out civil war and the killing of many Muslims (along with many whites), followed up by either of the previous mentioned alternatives 4) submission to their new Muslim overlords.

    If you can think of any other alternatives I would like to hear them.

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    If the coloreds want to give each other acid baths, let them.
    , @Joe Stalin
    What you could do is establish a right to keep and bear arms for long term residents i.e. families that have a around for decades. That would mean you could a create an arms imbalance between Muslims and white residents through legalities. Then you can go for your all out civil war; otherwise, the government will of course side with the Muslims and join with your supression. Europe's future us bleak, I'm afraid.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-01/2nd-amendment-comes-europe-czech-republic-enshrine-right-bear-arms-constitution

    "After the bill passes through the senate, it’s expected to be signed into law by President Milos Zeman, who changed his mind on privately owned guns last year.

    “Earlier I spoke often about limiting the ability to have large quantities of weapons. But after the terrorist attacks, I have changed the idea.”

    On the other hand, a couple of "Paris Massacres of 1961" might convince Muslims that maybe everyone is not convinced of the inevitability of Islamic domination:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_massacre_of_1961

    "The Paris massacre of 1961 occurred on 17 October 1961, during the Algerian War (1954–62). Under orders from the head of the Parisian police, Maurice Papon, the French National Police attacked a demonstration of some 30,000 pro-National Liberation Front (FLN) Algerians. Two months before, the FLN had decided to increase its bombing in France and to resume the campaign against both pro-France Algerians and the rival Algerian nationalist organization, the Algerian National Movement in France. After 37 years of denial, in 1998 the French government acknowledged 40 deaths, although there are estimates of 100 to 300 victims.[1]
    , @Judah Benjamin Hur
    Violent crime in North African and Middle East Muslim countries isn't too bad (and extremely low in South Asian Muslim countries like Indonesia and Malaysia, an interesting HBD tidbit) so I suspect violent behavior can be limited. The sad thing is that if you don't have (or likely will have) much to lose (a normal family, a decent job, assets like a house) you have nothing to fear from punishment in the West.

    Before extreme measures are contemplated, I would just focus on restricting immigration from Muslim countries and improving the fertility rate.
    , @Anonymous
    Perhaps they could scrape by with: 1) swift deportation of all criminal non-citizen Muslims, of any sort; 2) swift punishment of all criminal citizen Muslims; 3) public promulgation of the idea that jihad is "internal jihad", so that warmongering Islam is given no legal standing, and is effectively treason. I think that a Westernized Islam is a non-starter if it is just some pussified simulacrum of liberal Christianity, but if there is some manly path for Muslims in Western countries that steers them towards a rejection of vice, this could be an option better than the others. Will this work? I don't know. Something like this seems to be the best option. (Unfortunately, "manliness" is a forbidden concept, and so the need to forge some sort of acceptable manly Islam faces great challenges.)
    , @AM

    If you can think of any other alternatives I would like to hear them.
     
    Your comment seems more sensible in the long run. So much of Europe's history is about pushing back Islam after it's rise. The Moors, the Turks - it's all a horror show until they're completely gone.

    It's just not polite and nice to think about, but it seems like ultimately history says the Turks need to live in Turkey. I think the only question is how far ahead of the curve are you. A decade? A century? Several centuries?
    , @EdwardM
    5) Allow law-abiding citizens to carry firearms for self-defense. While obviously not fail-safe, this is the strongest possible countermeasure that the society could implement short of mass deportation of even some citizens.
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  16. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Oh, you totally missed out on VAN CONTROL!

    Here's the original link, but be aware that is msn. Linking to it gave me a funny feeling in the pit of my stomach.

    "What do we want?
    Van Control!
    When do we want it?
    We want it NOW!, as soon as our yard guys and plumbers get done with the house!"



    I think it is Mr. Kersey who says it best: "This is why we can't have nice things." Nobody would have heard of an acid attack in Britain before this invasion. It's just like the fact that nobody in America worried about bedbugs, Hepatitis, or TB from when they were wiped many years ago until OUR invasion.

    Brenda Walker on VDare writes great articles about this kind of human factors effects of the immigration invasion.

    If hire companies were compelled to monitor van renters they would be accused of hate crime, imprisoned and their businesses confiscated on grounds of race discrimination.

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    Must be bad for real estate prices.

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  18. Acid attacks, usually by jilted male lovers, seem to have first arisen in France in the late 19th Century and were the subject of many sensational stories in the press. The French called it vitriolage. In recent decades, it has been commonplace in the Indian subcontinent.

    It is a horrific crime. Google if you must, but pictures of the female victims are truly heartbreaking.

    I’ll try to find the link, but a newspaper article in the last two days mentioned that the number of acid attacks last year in London alone exceeded the reported number of attacks in India.

    Judging by the newspaper reports, acid attacks in the UK are no longer crimes of jealousy, but rather also a method adopted at large by criminal “yoofs”, not all of whom seem to be non-White, though the newspapers might be selectively reporting incidents in which whites were the perpetrators.

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  19. Wilkey says:

    Leftists don’t want us to talk about Third World immigration and its consequences. They don’t want to make the choice to limit immigration because it would ‘hurt people’s feelings.’ The result is that other choices are made for us – choices that limit our freedoms and deny us our privacy. But so long as we don’t discuss the real reasons our freedoms and privacy are being taken away it’s no big deal.

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  20. Caustic fluid such as sulphuric acid or drain cleaner can be bought online in or in shops for as little as £7 or £8 a litre

    Damn, that is expensive. You can get muriatic acid in Home Depot here in the US for a fraction of that. Fortunately our delinquents are not taught chemistry.

    We just restrict cough medicine.

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    Muriatic acid. Invasion of the Pool Cleaners! I knew SoCal and the sand states would be a beachhead of sorts for that watershed event. Okay, sorry for that. Return to your regularly scheduled de-programming.
    , @dr kill
    And iodine, and ether, and phenol, in fact just about everything used in the horse business.
    , @Autochthon
    Hehe. I went to buy some muriatic acid to clean a stain from the concrete in my garage and drive before selling my house last year. Surprise! It's illegal* in Mexifornia. That's right; you cannot purchase it here. Mexifornia: It's like Europe, only even more expensive and with fewer attractive women (because most of those here are rotund mud-women gabbling Urdu, Hindi, Arabic, or bastardised Spanish...).

    *You can buy a worthless, diluted 14.5% solution here if you don't want to actually get anything cleaned with it – you can damn The Man and visit Nevada the next time you are in Tahoe....

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  21. Ivy says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Caustic fluid such as sulphuric acid or drain cleaner can be bought online in or in shops for as little as £7 or £8 a litre
     
    Damn, that is expensive. You can get muriatic acid in Home Depot here in the US for a fraction of that. Fortunately our delinquents are not taught chemistry.

    We just restrict cough medicine.

    Muriatic acid. Invasion of the Pool Cleaners! I knew SoCal and the sand states would be a beachhead of sorts for that watershed event. Okay, sorry for that. Return to your regularly scheduled de-programming.

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  22. songbird says:
    @Judah Benjamin Hur
    Europeans are so weak on crime it's ridiculous. Get tough enough on acid attacks (life in prison, at a minimum) and it will mostly stop. Europeans have a criminal justice system designed for people who basically don't commit crimes!


    Diversity is Newham’s strength
     
    Diversity depends entirely on the ingredients. How many of the 1.3% Chinese are committing crimes? What is the crime level of Hindu Indians?

    When Trump said Mexico wasn't sending their best, everyone should have applauded. It was the most insightful comment about immigration by any major American political figure.

    The problem with the Chinese and Hindus is that they pretty overwhelmingly support open immigration – and that is quite a significant problem.

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    Not to China and India they don't; it's forbidden for a friegner to so much as own property or operate a business in those nations. Hypocritical little cockroaches, laughing into their sleeves incessantly.
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  23. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    It all began with Mind Control.

    And Sensation Control.

    Once kids got addicted to ‘youth culture’, they lost all sense of deeper culture and values.

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  24. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Daniel H
    >>Get tough enough on acid attacks (life in prison, at a minimum) and it will mostly stop

    I don't think the attacks will stop. Muslims - due to generally low IQ - seem to be somewhat immune to exemplary sanctions that deter the typical white man.

    England and other European nations are facing some stark choices: 1) Forcible deportation of Muslims to lands of origin. 2) Division of the nation state and forcible deportation and quarantine of Muslims to Muslim zones, 3) all out civil war and the killing of many Muslims (along with many whites), followed up by either of the previous mentioned alternatives 4) submission to their new Muslim overlords.

    If you can think of any other alternatives I would like to hear them.

    If the coloreds want to give each other acid baths, let them.

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  25. slumber_j says:
    @Carbon blob
    Seems like as good a time as any to bump Christopher Hitchens's piece about the printer toner cartridge bomb plot from way back when. A subsequent piece in a jihadi magazine remarked about the entirely predictable ban on toner cartridges that resulted: "Who is the genius who came up with this suggestion? Do you think we have nothing to send but printers?"

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2010/11/dont_be_an_ass_about_airport_security.html

    From the Hitchens piece:

    The deceased assailant was the brother of Khalid Ibrahim Al Aseery, the suspected bomb-specialist of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula and the man sought in connection with the underpants and toner attempts. In the Jeddah case, the lethal charge of PETN was concealed in the would-be assassin’s rectum.

    Well, that one’s easy: ban assholes!

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    But then where will the Russians hide their rectal guns???

    http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/01/11/potd-kgb-rectal-gun-ultimate-concealed-carry/
    , @Tom-in-VA
    Rectum! Damn thing killed him!
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  26. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
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    Hey, thank you, I.D., and I'm pissed at myself for not even noticing that. It's probably a different Moslem sect that uses it - the Shiites are all about low pH fluids, and the Sunnis believe in high pH. This causes a lot of conflict, and it explains that when the 2 sects come together .... WATCH OUT!

    All that's left is water and a small whiff of Hydrogen (oh, and a few severed heads and blown-up airliners).

    the Shiites are all about low pH

    Seriously, how much of the terrorism and mayhem perpetrated by muslims in the West is done by Shiites? I have no figures, but it seems to be that close to 100 percent is caused by the Sunnis. Does anyone have any examples of shiites rampaging in the West?

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    There was some bad Shiite terrorism through the 1990s, like in Buenos Aires, and into the 2000s, but since 2011 it's been virtually all Sunni. I think.
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  27. @Daniel H
    >>Get tough enough on acid attacks (life in prison, at a minimum) and it will mostly stop

    I don't think the attacks will stop. Muslims - due to generally low IQ - seem to be somewhat immune to exemplary sanctions that deter the typical white man.

    England and other European nations are facing some stark choices: 1) Forcible deportation of Muslims to lands of origin. 2) Division of the nation state and forcible deportation and quarantine of Muslims to Muslim zones, 3) all out civil war and the killing of many Muslims (along with many whites), followed up by either of the previous mentioned alternatives 4) submission to their new Muslim overlords.

    If you can think of any other alternatives I would like to hear them.

    What you could do is establish a right to keep and bear arms for long term residents i.e. families that have a around for decades. That would mean you could a create an arms imbalance between Muslims and white residents through legalities. Then you can go for your all out civil war; otherwise, the government will of course side with the Muslims and join with your supression. Europe’s future us bleak, I’m afraid.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-01/2nd-amendment-comes-europe-czech-republic-enshrine-right-bear-arms-constitution

    “After the bill passes through the senate, it’s expected to be signed into law by President Milos Zeman, who changed his mind on privately owned guns last year.

    “Earlier I spoke often about limiting the ability to have large quantities of weapons. But after the terrorist attacks, I have changed the idea.”

    On the other hand, a couple of “Paris Massacres of 1961″ might convince Muslims that maybe everyone is not convinced of the inevitability of Islamic domination:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_massacre_of_1961

    “The Paris massacre of 1961 occurred on 17 October 1961, during the Algerian War (1954–62). Under orders from the head of the Parisian police, Maurice Papon, the French National Police attacked a demonstration of some 30,000 pro-National Liberation Front (FLN) Algerians. Two months before, the FLN had decided to increase its bombing in France and to resume the campaign against both pro-France Algerians and the rival Algerian nationalist organization, the Algerian National Movement in France. After 37 years of denial, in 1998 the French government acknowledged 40 deaths, although there are estimates of 100 to 300 victims.[1]

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  28. @slumber_j
    From the Hitchens piece:

    The deceased assailant was the brother of Khalid Ibrahim Al Aseery, the suspected bomb-specialist of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula and the man sought in connection with the underpants and toner attempts. In the Jeddah case, the lethal charge of PETN was concealed in the would-be assassin's rectum.
     
    Well, that one's easy: ban assholes!
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  29. Tom-in-VA says:
    @slumber_j
    From the Hitchens piece:

    The deceased assailant was the brother of Khalid Ibrahim Al Aseery, the suspected bomb-specialist of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula and the man sought in connection with the underpants and toner attempts. In the Jeddah case, the lethal charge of PETN was concealed in the would-be assassin's rectum.
     
    Well, that one's easy: ban assholes!

    Rectum! Damn thing killed him!

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  30. anonguy says:

    First they came for the high flow toilets (remember them?)

    Then they came for the Drano…

    I’m not sure what they come for next in this progression. Any takers?

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    Brick cleaner (muriatic aka hydrochloric acid in Blighty). It's fairly dilute already though. Gasoline (petrol), outside of a motor car's fuel system. D-size batteries in socks.
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  31. @anonymous

    the Shiites are all about low pH
     
    Seriously, how much of the terrorism and mayhem perpetrated by muslims in the West is done by Shiites? I have no figures, but it seems to be that close to 100 percent is caused by the Sunnis. Does anyone have any examples of shiites rampaging in the West?

    There was some bad Shiite terrorism through the 1990s, like in Buenos Aires, and into the 2000s, but since 2011 it’s been virtually all Sunni. I think.

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  32. M_Young says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    Not to be pedantic, but drain cleaner is actually strongly alkaline.

    LOL, beat me to it.

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  33. @Daniel H
    >>Get tough enough on acid attacks (life in prison, at a minimum) and it will mostly stop

    I don't think the attacks will stop. Muslims - due to generally low IQ - seem to be somewhat immune to exemplary sanctions that deter the typical white man.

    England and other European nations are facing some stark choices: 1) Forcible deportation of Muslims to lands of origin. 2) Division of the nation state and forcible deportation and quarantine of Muslims to Muslim zones, 3) all out civil war and the killing of many Muslims (along with many whites), followed up by either of the previous mentioned alternatives 4) submission to their new Muslim overlords.

    If you can think of any other alternatives I would like to hear them.

    Violent crime in North African and Middle East Muslim countries isn’t too bad (and extremely low in South Asian Muslim countries like Indonesia and Malaysia, an interesting HBD tidbit) so I suspect violent behavior can be limited. The sad thing is that if you don’t have (or likely will have) much to lose (a normal family, a decent job, assets like a house) you have nothing to fear from punishment in the West.

    Before extreme measures are contemplated, I would just focus on restricting immigration from Muslim countries and improving the fertility rate.

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    I suspect violent behavior can be limited...
     
    Islam in the West is currently on a conquering spree, which emboldens its soldiers towards mayhem.
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  34. M_Young says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    Not to be pedantic, but drain cleaner is actually strongly alkaline.

    BTW alkali is from Arabic, kali, meaning the calcified ashes of Saltwort (or something).

    Without Arabs we’d all have clogged drains, therefore we must allow mass immigration of Arabs!

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/alkali

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  35. Fredrik says:
    @Goatweed
    Has anyone identified the two teens involved in the latest attacks?

    I’m looking for those names too.

    I don’t buy it that it will be Muslims and/or Asians.

    I’m certain it’s another group and I’m not talking about Polish plumbers.

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  36. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I would just focus on restricting immigration from Muslim countries and improving the fertility rate.

    I Agree on the muslim immigration ban. But the fertility rate is not the problem. Japan has a lower fertility rate and doesn’t have these problems. Had Europeans not succumbed to the open borders mania, they would not have these problems either.

    European populations are already at record levels. A little throttling back is not cause for concern, unless of course you simultaneously allow in vast amounts of non-Europeans.

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  37. Bill B. says:
    @Judah Benjamin Hur
    Europeans are so weak on crime it's ridiculous. Get tough enough on acid attacks (life in prison, at a minimum) and it will mostly stop. Europeans have a criminal justice system designed for people who basically don't commit crimes!


    Diversity is Newham’s strength
     
    Diversity depends entirely on the ingredients. How many of the 1.3% Chinese are committing crimes? What is the crime level of Hindu Indians?

    When Trump said Mexico wasn't sending their best, everyone should have applauded. It was the most insightful comment about immigration by any major American political figure.

    Diversity depends entirely on the ingredients. How many of the 1.3% Chinese are committing crimes? What is the crime level of Hindu Indians?

    I take your point.

    But just because so many Muslim groups are so awful doesn’t make the Chinese, say, clean. I talked to the head of the Met’s Triad Unit 20 years ago who told me that all Chinese restaurants in London pay protection money to the triads.

    Chinese crime tends to be low profile and intra-ethnic at least in the first couple of generations.

    Many ethnic groups coming from intensely family or clan orientated countries to the West network within their ethnie to explore ways of exploiting the rich pickings available to ruthlessly focused people cooperating with trusted associates.

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  38. The problem with the Chinese and Hindus is that they pretty overwhelmingly support open immigration

    Not into China or India, AFAIK.

    As for immigration here, I have a hunch that most of them want to pull up the drawbridge, once they and theirs are safely ensconced in American suburbia. And they’re certainly not in favor of open immigration for Latin Americans or Africans.

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  39. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The recent spate of acid attacks in highly enriched Hackney, London, involved a 16 year old and a 15 year old youth throwing acid in the faces of moped using pizza delivery workers in order to steal their mopeds. Doubtless the mopeds would be further used to commit ‘moped muggings’ in which a pillion passenger of a moped driver snatches the cell phone, jewellery etc of pedestrians in the streets before the driver makes a clean getaway.
    Knowing the demographics of Hackney – and the reality of moped crime – it’s highly unlikely that the perpetrators were white. Very likely they were feral blacks.

    As for the pizza delivery victims, it’s almost certain that they are exclusively either Pakistani, Iranian or Afghan recent ‘asylum seekers’. No one else does that ‘vital highly productive hi-tech’ job.

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  40. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Daniel H
    >>Get tough enough on acid attacks (life in prison, at a minimum) and it will mostly stop

    I don't think the attacks will stop. Muslims - due to generally low IQ - seem to be somewhat immune to exemplary sanctions that deter the typical white man.

    England and other European nations are facing some stark choices: 1) Forcible deportation of Muslims to lands of origin. 2) Division of the nation state and forcible deportation and quarantine of Muslims to Muslim zones, 3) all out civil war and the killing of many Muslims (along with many whites), followed up by either of the previous mentioned alternatives 4) submission to their new Muslim overlords.

    If you can think of any other alternatives I would like to hear them.

    Perhaps they could scrape by with: 1) swift deportation of all criminal non-citizen Muslims, of any sort; 2) swift punishment of all criminal citizen Muslims; 3) public promulgation of the idea that jihad is “internal jihad”, so that warmongering Islam is given no legal standing, and is effectively treason. I think that a Westernized Islam is a non-starter if it is just some pussified simulacrum of liberal Christianity, but if there is some manly path for Muslims in Western countries that steers them towards a rejection of vice, this could be an option better than the others. Will this work? I don’t know. Something like this seems to be the best option. (Unfortunately, “manliness” is a forbidden concept, and so the need to forge some sort of acceptable manly Islam faces great challenges.)

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  41. Nobody says:
    @Goatweed
    Has anyone identified the two teens involved in the latest attacks?

    Not sure, but I heard 2 Amish kids are being looked for…

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  42. dr kill says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Caustic fluid such as sulphuric acid or drain cleaner can be bought online in or in shops for as little as £7 or £8 a litre
     
    Damn, that is expensive. You can get muriatic acid in Home Depot here in the US for a fraction of that. Fortunately our delinquents are not taught chemistry.

    We just restrict cough medicine.

    And iodine, and ether, and phenol, in fact just about everything used in the horse business.

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  43. JackOH says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Weren’t the British a tough, sensible people that had a punctilious concern for individual liberty at one time?
     
    You've got to go back a ways. What, 50 years, maybe?

    It's like the people in Massachusetts - theoretically there should be a bunch of descendants of the patriots that started it all at Lexington and Concord, but you look around, and it's left-wing Massholes all the way down. Have a bunch of mutations happened? Is it closer to the Sun? That UV can wreak havoc on your genes.

    Achmed, thanks. You gotta wonder about the quality of thought behind criminalization and confiscation of, well, what’s next, broom handles and table legs? If criminalization and confiscation were right on the money, America’s prisons would be among the safest places on earth.

    Reality is that disarming a lawful citizenry by prohibition or cumbersome regulation essentially up-arms criminals and further empowers government.

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    "You gotta wonder about the quality of thought behind criminalization and confiscation of, well, what’s next, broom handles and table legs?"

    The British police are ahead of the game: they have already shot dead one man for carrying a table leg.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/may/13/ukguns.hughmuir

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  44. Rob McX says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    Not to be pedantic, but drain cleaner is actually strongly alkaline.

    All the drain cleaner I’ve seen in the last few years is sulphuric acid, around 85 per cent acid and the rest water. That makes it stronger than what’s in a car battery.

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    My chemistry is coming back to me, but as through a beaker, darkly, so bear with me. Don't you need a molarity for the acid? There's no such thing as "100 % acid", maybe theoretically, but the acid molarity (how many moles, 6.02 x 10^23 molecules, haha came to me!, or radicals as they aren't stable molecules) is what matters, as the radicals are IN water, which is the basis of the acid. I don't think you can speak of a mixture of acid/water in percentage, only the molarity of the acid, how many moles of the H2SO4 molecule, for example, per liter of liquid.

    Car battery acid has to be shipped as a hazardous material, so I can't believe the drain cleaner could be that strong. I see 98% sulfuric acid drain cleaner advertised, but the 98% number is meaningless. The molarity is what matters, but that won't be advertised because the customers don't understand the chemistry, the marketing people don't understand the chemistry, and probably the president of the drain cleaner parent company doesn't understand or care about the chemistry.

    Either way, I don't know anyone with the pure evil in him to throw acid on someone who wronged him, no matter what the transgression or molarity.

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  45. @JackOH
    What the devil is the UK doing with its anti-gun and anti-knife laws?

    Back when I was thinking of buying a handgun for self-defense after a possible home invasion, I stumbled across a UK-based anti-knife propaganda site. I thought the site was a parody of smother government/nanny state intrusiveness that infantilized its readers. The site was real. I don't recall details, but they were very much of the interrogative style meant to reveal "error". Stuff like: "Does carrying a knife make you feel better?" Weren't the British a tough, sensible people that had a punctilious concern for individual liberty at one time?

    “Weren’t the British a tough, sensible people that had a punctilious concern for individual liberty at one time?”

    Yes, and they still are to a great extent, But ‘London’ and ‘British’ are two different things. We end up having our liberty taken away because “other people” don’t act like the British do. That’s why we have to take our belts off at airports and have our internet communications monitored 24/7 (although some of that monitoring it to help prevent the natives doing anything about it).

    Here’s a list of where acid attacls took place in London 2011-2016 i.e. before “the youth” realised it was the most efficient way of taking out a scooter rider whose bike you wanted to nick.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/acid-attack-capital-britain-revealed-10008792

    1 – Newham – 398
    2 – Barking & Dagenham – 134
    3 – Tower Hamlets – 84
    4 – Havering – 81
    5 – Redbridge – 64
    6 – Hackney – 45
    7 – Barnet – 44
    8 – Croydon – 42
    9 – Ealing – 40
    10 – Hillingdon – 36
    11 – Islington – 34
    12 – Hounslow – 31
    13 – Hammersmith & Fulham – 30
    14 – Brent – 30
    15 – Waltham Forest – 29
    16 – Greenwich 28
    17 – Harrow – 27
    18 – Lewisham – 27
    19 – Sutton – 27
    20 – Richmond-upon-Thames – 25
    21 – Enfield – 26
    22 – Southwark – 24
    23 – Westminster – 24
    24 – Camden – 24
    25 – Bromley – 19
    26 – Merton – 19
    27 – Haringey – 18
    28 – Bexley – 17
    29 – Wandsworth – 17
    30 – Kingston upon Thames – 16
    31 – Lambeth – 15
    32 – Kensington & Chelsea – 15

    I did a bit of digging when these figures came out, easier to draw negative than positive conclusions. It’s not black Caribbean people per se, unless Brent, Brixton (part of Lambeth) and Wandsworth have been more reconquista’d (by whites) than I realise, because they have low numbers. It’s not Sikhs and Hindus – Harrow, Houslow, Hillingdon are all low. Not whites (Richmond, Kingston).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_boroughs

    That leaves Bangladeshi Muslims (moving out from the centre 32% Tower Hamlets, 12% Newham, 4% Barking), Black Africans (3.6%, 12.3%, 15.4%) or maybe White Other (12.4%, 11.4%, 7.8% – Albanian? Kosovan? Polish? who knows?).

    One thing that strikes me is that these boroughs are probably changing more than most in London, so perhaps it’s a question of which bunch of young men control the streets. Lambeth is changing too, but young white graduates don’t go in for this sort of thing.

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    Havering and Redbridge, #4 and #5 in the charts, are also on the East/NorthEast side of London, next out from Newham and Barking/Dagenham. Still very white according to the 2011 census, for what that's worth. Probably also high change areas.
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  46. @YetAnotherAnon
    "Weren’t the British a tough, sensible people that had a punctilious concern for individual liberty at one time?"

    Yes, and they still are to a great extent, But 'London' and 'British' are two different things. We end up having our liberty taken away because "other people" don't act like the British do. That's why we have to take our belts off at airports and have our internet communications monitored 24/7 (although some of that monitoring it to help prevent the natives doing anything about it).

    Here's a list of where acid attacls took place in London 2011-2016 i.e. before "the youth" realised it was the most efficient way of taking out a scooter rider whose bike you wanted to nick.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/acid-attack-capital-britain-revealed-10008792

    1 - Newham - 398
    2 - Barking & Dagenham - 134
    3 - Tower Hamlets - 84
    4 - Havering - 81
    5 - Redbridge - 64
    6 - Hackney - 45
    7 - Barnet - 44
    8 - Croydon - 42
    9 - Ealing - 40
    10 - Hillingdon - 36
    11 - Islington - 34
    12 - Hounslow - 31
    13 - Hammersmith & Fulham - 30
    14 - Brent - 30
    15 - Waltham Forest - 29
    16 - Greenwich 28
    17 - Harrow - 27
    18 - Lewisham - 27
    19 - Sutton - 27
    20 - Richmond-upon-Thames - 25
    21 - Enfield - 26
    22 - Southwark - 24
    23 - Westminster - 24
    24 - Camden - 24
    25 - Bromley - 19
    26 - Merton - 19
    27 - Haringey - 18
    28 - Bexley - 17
    29 - Wandsworth - 17
    30 - Kingston upon Thames - 16
    31 - Lambeth - 15
    32 - Kensington & Chelsea - 15


    I did a bit of digging when these figures came out, easier to draw negative than positive conclusions. It's not black Caribbean people per se, unless Brent, Brixton (part of Lambeth) and Wandsworth have been more reconquista'd (by whites) than I realise, because they have low numbers. It's not Sikhs and Hindus - Harrow, Houslow, Hillingdon are all low. Not whites (Richmond, Kingston).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_boroughs

    That leaves Bangladeshi Muslims (moving out from the centre 32% Tower Hamlets, 12% Newham, 4% Barking), Black Africans (3.6%, 12.3%, 15.4%) or maybe White Other (12.4%, 11.4%, 7.8% - Albanian? Kosovan? Polish? who knows?).

    One thing that strikes me is that these boroughs are probably changing more than most in London, so perhaps it's a question of which bunch of young men control the streets. Lambeth is changing too, but young white graduates don't go in for this sort of thing.

    Havering and Redbridge, #4 and #5 in the charts, are also on the East/NorthEast side of London, next out from Newham and Barking/Dagenham. Still very white according to the 2011 census, for what that’s worth. Probably also high change areas.

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    The UK government releases detailed school statistics every January, which include an ethnic breakdown. The latest round was released just six months ago:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/schools-pupils-and-their-characteristics-january-2017

    To 21st century Londoners, the past truly is a foreign country: as of January 2017, 18% of state primary school pupils (ages ~5-10) in Inner London are "White British", while in London as a whole (including the outer boroughs), the proportion rises to 26%. In the whole of England, 67% of state primary school pupils are categorised as "White British". As an aside, this highlights the pace of change, since ten years ago the same figure stood at just over 78%. The numbers for the boroughs you mention (and a few others all clustered together, combined population ~1.7 million) are:

    Newham 5% (not a typo: five percent, the lowest in England)
    Tower Hamlets 10%
    Barking and Dagenham 23%
    Redbridge 14%
    Waltham Forest 17%
    Hackney 16%

    Havering is the furthest out on the edge of east London and for now still has 64% of state primary pupils under the "White British" category.

    As far as acid attacks go, my subjective impression is that they began in Pakistani/Bangladeshi Muslim circles, before being adopted by criminals of all races, as well as women disfiguring former lovers and rivals. This is just part and parcel of living in London today: random violence, stabbings, acid attacks, terrorism, Islamic proselytising on the high street &etc.

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  47. I’d suppose it’s easier for the boneheads in parliament to advocate banning acid than suggesting taking vigorous action against the perpetrators of these crimes.

    As it is they have enough laws to deal with these scum as it is.

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  48. Bill B. says:
    @JackOH
    Achmed, thanks. You gotta wonder about the quality of thought behind criminalization and confiscation of, well, what's next, broom handles and table legs? If criminalization and confiscation were right on the money, America's prisons would be among the safest places on earth.

    Reality is that disarming a lawful citizenry by prohibition or cumbersome regulation essentially up-arms criminals and further empowers government.

    “You gotta wonder about the quality of thought behind criminalization and confiscation of, well, what’s next, broom handles and table legs?”

    The British police are ahead of the game: they have already shot dead one man for carrying a table leg.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/may/13/ukguns.hughmuir

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  49. @Anonymous
    The recent spate of acid attacks in highly enriched Hackney, London, involved a 16 year old and a 15 year old youth throwing acid in the faces of moped using pizza delivery workers in order to steal their mopeds. Doubtless the mopeds would be further used to commit 'moped muggings' in which a pillion passenger of a moped driver snatches the cell phone, jewellery etc of pedestrians in the streets before the driver makes a clean getaway.
    Knowing the demographics of Hackney - and the reality of moped crime - it's highly unlikely that the perpetrators were white. Very likely they were feral blacks.

    As for the pizza delivery victims, it's almost certain that they are exclusively either Pakistani, Iranian or Afghan recent 'asylum seekers'. No one else does that 'vital highly productive hi-tech' job.

    Yep, my bet is Somalians on Bangladeshis or Afghans.

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  50. Brabantian says: • Website

    A government slogan in the UK – seriously – is “Save a Life – Turn In Your Knife!” The ‘enormously deadly’ cookware kitchen knives sold in Europe, give the UK authorities ‘grave concern’

    By the way, although the UK insanely abolished & confiscated all handguns in the late 1990s … Yanks seem never to know that we have lots of civilian handguns, rifles, and shotguns in continental Europe. We don’t have ‘carry’ laws like in the USA, but we do have guns, maybe 70 to 100 million amongst European citizens.

    An insufficiently-studied question, is the ultimately pernicious character of Anglo culture with its over-emphasis on the cult of ‘law’ & legalistic intimidation … so there is the massive corruption of the USA legal system, jailing 2.3 million people, or 1 out 140 citizens … vs 1 out of 1000 or so in Western Continental Europe … In Europe we also avoid the USA fetish for the power of its ‘Supreme Court’ in deciding issues, & a general atmosphere of USA extortion by lawyer & lawsuit, lawyers being the prime USA mafia, often brutally mauling citizens & small business

    So the USA has about 1 out of every 45 working-age adult males, in prison right now as we speak … extensively minority, but lots of poor whiteys in there too … Britain is the biggest jailer in Western Europe by percentage of population, but its nanny state legalism is quite off the charts

    A virtue of Continental Europe that is unappreciated, is that ‘ultimate power’ is still seen in terms of people in the streets, revolutionary potential … not in constitutions – laws that can be manipulated tools of oligarchy … but there’s no doubt we have ‘Other Problems’ here …

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    If you had a mass black population, you'd have a mass prison population too.

    Anyway, look at the ethnic breakdown figures - when they are sneaked out - of the French prison population.
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  51. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I have the inkling that London’s premier money-spinning industry, banking and financial services as concentrated in the square mile of the ancient ‘city’ of London, (hard-by Newham and Hackney, as it happens), will, eventually migrate out to pastures new, most likely England’s ‘west country’, south coast, or the southwest peninsula of Devon and Cornwall.
    Basically, the talented white professionals who keep the industry going have no desire to live in London, or face the gruelling, expensive commute in, let alone raise children into the increasing Economist/Brazilian type dystopian hell-hole that London is descending into.

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  52. @Goatweed
    Has anyone identified the two teens involved in the latest attacks?

    One of these twits came unstuck trying to outrun the Old Bill. He was of course a good boy, with stellar sporting prospects, and he dindu nuffin. His rear-gunner has survived, for the meantime.

    He added: “Lewis went to school with my son and was a good boy as far as we could see. We are all just so sad that this has happened. I can’t believe it.”
    Scotland Yard said police were called to Kingsland Road in Dalston yesterday following reports of a theft — the latest in a spate of street muggings by moped riders in the area.
    Lewis’s moped was spotted in nearby Stamford Road half an hour later and officers launched a pursuit when it failed to stop.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/clapton-crash-first-picture-of-teenager-lewis-johnson-who-was-killed-in-moped-smash-during-police-a3176686.html
    They’ve discovered that if you aren’t wearing the government-mandated helmet while on one of these monkey-bikes, the law is not permitted to give chase but must follow at a respectful speed and distance while having noses gleefully thumbed at them.
    White-van-man put an end to that ploy in this case. I expect to see a lot more accidents involving over-crewed mopeds and proles’ trucks. People are sick to death of it all, and the acid attacks stepped over some sort of invisible line of revulsion.

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  53. This is just one more piece of the Left’s exterminationist program. The left elites import lots of dangerous people who destabilize once stable communities, then criminalizes any and every means for the peaceful, law abiding members to defend themselves against the predators.

    See: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-exterminationist-left-happy-trails.html

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  54. @Intelligent Dasein
    Not to be pedantic, but drain cleaner is actually strongly alkaline.

    Either will do. Depends on how strong your nerves are, as UK soil & waste plumbing could be well over a century old, particularly in That London, fragile though age, and made of all sorts of unlikely materials.

    http://www.wickes.co.uk/Rhino-High-Strength-Drain-Unblocker-1L/p/143981

    http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/tesco-price-comparison/Household_Cleaning/Boots_Caustic_Soda_Drain_Cleaner_500g.html

    The sulphuric sort does a cracking job on showers and baths, where hair (just hair, I hope) is the main culprit. Fizzes and pops like the devil. The caustic is great for kitchen grease.

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  55. @anonguy
    First they came for the high flow toilets (remember them?)

    Then they came for the Drano...

    I'm not sure what they come for next in this progression. Any takers?

    Brick cleaner (muriatic aka hydrochloric acid in Blighty). It’s fairly dilute already though. Gasoline (petrol), outside of a motor car’s fuel system. D-size batteries in socks.

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  56. @Rob McX
    All the drain cleaner I've seen in the last few years is sulphuric acid, around 85 per cent acid and the rest water. That makes it stronger than what's in a car battery.

    My chemistry is coming back to me, but as through a beaker, darkly, so bear with me. Don’t you need a molarity for the acid? There’s no such thing as “100 % acid”, maybe theoretically, but the acid molarity (how many moles, 6.02 x 10^23 molecules, haha came to me!, or radicals as they aren’t stable molecules) is what matters, as the radicals are IN water, which is the basis of the acid. I don’t think you can speak of a mixture of acid/water in percentage, only the molarity of the acid, how many moles of the H2SO4 molecule, for example, per liter of liquid.

    Car battery acid has to be shipped as a hazardous material, so I can’t believe the drain cleaner could be that strong. I see 98% sulfuric acid drain cleaner advertised, but the 98% number is meaningless. The molarity is what matters, but that won’t be advertised because the customers don’t understand the chemistry, the marketing people don’t understand the chemistry, and probably the president of the drain cleaner parent company doesn’t understand or care about the chemistry.

    Either way, I don’t know anyone with the pure evil in him to throw acid on someone who wronged him, no matter what the transgression or molarity.

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    Thanks for the clarification, I had forgotten about molarity (or maybe I didn't learn it).
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  57. @Jonathan Mason

    Caustic fluid such as sulphuric acid or drain cleaner can be bought online in or in shops for as little as £7 or £8 a litre
     
    Damn, that is expensive. You can get muriatic acid in Home Depot here in the US for a fraction of that. Fortunately our delinquents are not taught chemistry.

    We just restrict cough medicine.

    Hehe. I went to buy some muriatic acid to clean a stain from the concrete in my garage and drive before selling my house last year. Surprise! It’s illegal* in Mexifornia. That’s right; you cannot purchase it here. Mexifornia: It’s like Europe, only even more expensive and with fewer attractive women (because most of those here are rotund mud-women gabbling Urdu, Hindi, Arabic, or bastardised Spanish…).

    *You can buy a worthless, diluted 14.5% solution here if you don’t want to actually get anything cleaned with it – you can damn The Man and visit Nevada the next time you are in Tahoe….

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  58. @Intelligent Dasein
    Not to be pedantic, but drain cleaner is actually strongly alkaline.

    True, though some brands do use acids. More to your point: the enstupidation continues apace, and I expect ninety per cent of the populace don’t know the difference between an acid and a base (though it’s basic knowledge from about a fourth-grade class in physical scienc).

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  59. @songbird
    The problem with the Chinese and Hindus is that they pretty overwhelmingly support open immigration - and that is quite a significant problem.

    Not to China and India they don’t; it’s forbidden for a friegner to so much as own property or operate a business in those nations. Hypocritical little cockroaches, laughing into their sleeves incessantly.

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  60. @Dr. X

    Britain is being plagued by Acid Violence, so it’s time for Acid Control laws.
     
    Cops and government officials will have to be exempt, of course.

    It seems unavailable handily online, but I well remember the handiwork of Sheriff Josh Acid (played masterfully by Mel Gibson) in an episode from Saturday Night Live in the days when it was a funny sketch comedy show and not a screeching parade of Marxist preaching.

    If you have access, it’s well worth revisiting that skit to see how effective a law man can be with a vial of acid. My research indicates it was from the sixteenth episode of the fourteenth season.

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  61. Saxon says:
    @Judah Benjamin Hur
    Europeans are so weak on crime it's ridiculous. Get tough enough on acid attacks (life in prison, at a minimum) and it will mostly stop. Europeans have a criminal justice system designed for people who basically don't commit crimes!


    Diversity is Newham’s strength
     
    Diversity depends entirely on the ingredients. How many of the 1.3% Chinese are committing crimes? What is the crime level of Hindu Indians?

    When Trump said Mexico wasn't sending their best, everyone should have applauded. It was the most insightful comment about immigration by any major American political figure.

    All other groups will vote against your interests, regardless of how little crime they commit. Even these groups you mention still vote for communist-style redistributory policies to enrich themselves at the native whites’ expense. In the US 2016 election, EVERY SINGLE group aside from white males and females voted more for Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump and white females just barely. In 2020 will the demographics have shifted far enough that Donald Trump has no chance for re-election, assuming he even keeps his base happy enough for that? Perhaps so.

    All other groups will act in extremely nepotistic and otherwise ethnocentric ways while demanding that your group be atomized individuals. By the way, game theory shows ethnocentrism wins every time.

    No one can show any actual overall benefit to any kind of racially alien immigration that changes your country’s demographics any more than a tiny, less than 1% amount.

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  62. Thea says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Weren’t the British a tough, sensible people that had a punctilious concern for individual liberty at one time?
     
    You've got to go back a ways. What, 50 years, maybe?

    It's like the people in Massachusetts - theoretically there should be a bunch of descendants of the patriots that started it all at Lexington and Concord, but you look around, and it's left-wing Massholes all the way down. Have a bunch of mutations happened? Is it closer to the Sun? That UV can wreak havoc on your genes.

    People just weren’t designed to have such comfortable civilized lifestyles. The struggle of the battle and uncertainty seems to bring out the best.

    Abundance of idleness & abundance of bread leaves us a bunch of weak sissies.

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  63. peterike says:
    @Judah Benjamin Hur
    Europeans are so weak on crime it's ridiculous. Get tough enough on acid attacks (life in prison, at a minimum) and it will mostly stop. Europeans have a criminal justice system designed for people who basically don't commit crimes!


    Diversity is Newham’s strength
     
    Diversity depends entirely on the ingredients. How many of the 1.3% Chinese are committing crimes? What is the crime level of Hindu Indians?

    When Trump said Mexico wasn't sending their best, everyone should have applauded. It was the most insightful comment about immigration by any major American political figure.

    What is the crime level of Hindu Indians?

    Street crime is very small, almost nonexistent. But they do PLENTY of white collar crime. And besides, the presence of Hindus is corrosive to a white nation. You shouldn’t need any other reason to keep them out, no matter their economic contribution, education levels, etc. None of that means a damn thing, unless you write for The Economist.

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  64. peterike says:

    Well the UK can ban drain cleaner, but they apparently can’t do anything to stop their entire nation from going down the drain.

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  65. @JackOH
    What the devil is the UK doing with its anti-gun and anti-knife laws?

    Back when I was thinking of buying a handgun for self-defense after a possible home invasion, I stumbled across a UK-based anti-knife propaganda site. I thought the site was a parody of smother government/nanny state intrusiveness that infantilized its readers. The site was real. I don't recall details, but they were very much of the interrogative style meant to reveal "error". Stuff like: "Does carrying a knife make you feel better?" Weren't the British a tough, sensible people that had a punctilious concern for individual liberty at one time?

    The British Olympic pistol shooting team has to practice in France.

    Benighted Blighty.

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  66. bomag says:
    @Judah Benjamin Hur
    Violent crime in North African and Middle East Muslim countries isn't too bad (and extremely low in South Asian Muslim countries like Indonesia and Malaysia, an interesting HBD tidbit) so I suspect violent behavior can be limited. The sad thing is that if you don't have (or likely will have) much to lose (a normal family, a decent job, assets like a house) you have nothing to fear from punishment in the West.

    Before extreme measures are contemplated, I would just focus on restricting immigration from Muslim countries and improving the fertility rate.

    I suspect violent behavior can be limited…

    Islam in the West is currently on a conquering spree, which emboldens its soldiers towards mayhem.

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  67. AM says:
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    >>Get tough enough on acid attacks (life in prison, at a minimum) and it will mostly stop

    I don't think the attacks will stop. Muslims - due to generally low IQ - seem to be somewhat immune to exemplary sanctions that deter the typical white man.

    England and other European nations are facing some stark choices: 1) Forcible deportation of Muslims to lands of origin. 2) Division of the nation state and forcible deportation and quarantine of Muslims to Muslim zones, 3) all out civil war and the killing of many Muslims (along with many whites), followed up by either of the previous mentioned alternatives 4) submission to their new Muslim overlords.

    If you can think of any other alternatives I would like to hear them.

    If you can think of any other alternatives I would like to hear them.

    Your comment seems more sensible in the long run. So much of Europe’s history is about pushing back Islam after it’s rise. The Moors, the Turks – it’s all a horror show until they’re completely gone.

    It’s just not polite and nice to think about, but it seems like ultimately history says the Turks need to live in Turkey. I think the only question is how far ahead of the curve are you. A decade? A century? Several centuries?

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    ultimately history says the Turks need to live in Turkey.
     
    Just a minute there. That's Anatolia, and it's Stolen Land just as much as anywhere in the Americas.
    The Turks need to sod off back to the Altai, according to modern anti-conquistadorean theory.
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  68. Whiskey says: • Website

    England and France are racing Germany to see who surrenders to Islam first

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    Sweden by a length coming around the final turn.

    http://www.europeancivilwar.com/sick-joke-sweden-ranked-best-country-to-be-a-migrant/

    http://www.europeancivilwar.com/swedistan-only-8-out-of-100-reported-rapes-end-in-conviction/

    https://heatst.com/politics/sweden-is-giving-protected-identities-to-returning-isis-jihadists-granting-them-anonymity-for-life/

    http://www.snouts-in-the-trough.com/archives/18456
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  69. @Achmed E. Newman

    Weren’t the British a tough, sensible people that had a punctilious concern for individual liberty at one time?
     
    You've got to go back a ways. What, 50 years, maybe?

    It's like the people in Massachusetts - theoretically there should be a bunch of descendants of the patriots that started it all at Lexington and Concord, but you look around, and it's left-wing Massholes all the way down. Have a bunch of mutations happened? Is it closer to the Sun? That UV can wreak havoc on your genes.

    theoretically there should be a bunch of descendants of the patriots that started it all at Lexington and Concord, but you look around, and it’s left-wing Massholes all the way down. Have a bunch of mutations happened? Is it closer to the Sun?

    Do what Tenney Frank did with Roman inscriptions– just look at the change in surnames.

    Craig R Whitney, of the NYT and a relative of Eli, wrote a somewhat balanced treatise on the issue: http://craigrwhitney.com/projects.html

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  70. @AM

    If you can think of any other alternatives I would like to hear them.
     
    Your comment seems more sensible in the long run. So much of Europe's history is about pushing back Islam after it's rise. The Moors, the Turks - it's all a horror show until they're completely gone.

    It's just not polite and nice to think about, but it seems like ultimately history says the Turks need to live in Turkey. I think the only question is how far ahead of the curve are you. A decade? A century? Several centuries?

    ultimately history says the Turks need to live in Turkey.

    Just a minute there. That’s Anatolia, and it’s Stolen Land just as much as anywhere in the Americas.
    The Turks need to sod off back to the Altai, according to modern anti-conquistadorean theory.

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  71. @Intelligent Dasein
    Not to be pedantic, but drain cleaner is actually strongly alkaline.
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  72. JackOH says:
    @Bill B.
    "You gotta wonder about the quality of thought behind criminalization and confiscation of, well, what’s next, broom handles and table legs?"

    The British police are ahead of the game: they have already shot dead one man for carrying a table leg.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/may/13/ukguns.hughmuir

    Ouch! I knew I shouldn’ta said anything.

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  73. anon says: • Disclaimer

    What London needs is immigrant control. Guess its too late now…

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  74. bomag says:
    @Annoymous
    Meanwhile, Paris is lost...

    https://youtu.be/Z1Js8wntdk4

    I guess Paris wasn’t worth a Mass after all…

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  75. David_H says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    Havering and Redbridge, #4 and #5 in the charts, are also on the East/NorthEast side of London, next out from Newham and Barking/Dagenham. Still very white according to the 2011 census, for what that's worth. Probably also high change areas.

    The UK government releases detailed school statistics every January, which include an ethnic breakdown. The latest round was released just six months ago:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/schools-pupils-and-their-characteristics-january-2017

    To 21st century Londoners, the past truly is a foreign country: as of January 2017, 18% of state primary school pupils (ages ~5-10) in Inner London are “White British”, while in London as a whole (including the outer boroughs), the proportion rises to 26%. In the whole of England, 67% of state primary school pupils are categorised as “White British”. As an aside, this highlights the pace of change, since ten years ago the same figure stood at just over 78%. The numbers for the boroughs you mention (and a few others all clustered together, combined population ~1.7 million) are:

    Newham 5% (not a typo: five percent, the lowest in England)
    Tower Hamlets 10%
    Barking and Dagenham 23%
    Redbridge 14%
    Waltham Forest 17%
    Hackney 16%

    Havering is the furthest out on the edge of east London and for now still has 64% of state primary pupils under the “White British” category.

    As far as acid attacks go, my subjective impression is that they began in Pakistani/Bangladeshi Muslim circles, before being adopted by criminals of all races, as well as women disfiguring former lovers and rivals. This is just part and parcel of living in London today: random violence, stabbings, acid attacks, terrorism, Islamic proselytising on the high street &etc.

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  76. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Brabantian
    A government slogan in the UK - seriously - is "Save a Life - Turn In Your Knife!" The 'enormously deadly' cookware kitchen knives sold in Europe, give the UK authorities 'grave concern'

    By the way, although the UK insanely abolished & confiscated all handguns in the late 1990s ... Yanks seem never to know that we have lots of civilian handguns, rifles, and shotguns in continental Europe. We don't have 'carry' laws like in the USA, but we do have guns, maybe 70 to 100 million amongst European citizens.

    An insufficiently-studied question, is the ultimately pernicious character of Anglo culture with its over-emphasis on the cult of 'law' & legalistic intimidation ... so there is the massive corruption of the USA legal system, jailing 2.3 million people, or 1 out 140 citizens ... vs 1 out of 1000 or so in Western Continental Europe ... In Europe we also avoid the USA fetish for the power of its 'Supreme Court' in deciding issues, & a general atmosphere of USA extortion by lawyer & lawsuit, lawyers being the prime USA mafia, often brutally mauling citizens & small business

    So the USA has about 1 out of every 45 working-age adult males, in prison right now as we speak ... extensively minority, but lots of poor whiteys in there too ... Britain is the biggest jailer in Western Europe by percentage of population, but its nanny state legalism is quite off the charts

    A virtue of Continental Europe that is unappreciated, is that 'ultimate power' is still seen in terms of people in the streets, revolutionary potential ... not in constitutions - laws that can be manipulated tools of oligarchy ... but there's no doubt we have 'Other Problems' here ...

    If you had a mass black population, you’d have a mass prison population too.

    Anyway, look at the ethnic breakdown figures – when they are sneaked out – of the French prison population.

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  77. JackOH says:

    Thanks to all, and especially the British commenters.

    For the British commenters: can you see where some commenters here in the States find your government’s attitude toward gun and knife ownership, well, “difficult” and illiberal? Is there any prospect at all that British citizens can be persuaded into demanding liberalization of private gun ownership laws?

    FWIW-I used to bang about a pro-Second Amendment site a few years back. The folks are thoughtful, deeply concerned about personal liberty, and not at all the gun freaks as the Left portrays them sometimes. There’s a rough consensus that most unlawful shootings are domestic violence gone haywire (committed mostly by Whites), and gangbanger-related drug ‘n’ turf shootings (committed mostly by Blacks and Hispanics), and the latter are confined to a very tiny percentage of urban precincts. To that consensus may be added the general sentiment that confiscatory gun laws in the States, which are extremely unlikely, will always have exceptions for the wealthy, well-connected, the corrupt and corruptible, and the career criminal.

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    Jack, I don't know which sites you liked to read or "bang about", but weaponsman died this summer, kind of suddenly. I had only first gone to his site a few months before.
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  78. Rob McX says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    My chemistry is coming back to me, but as through a beaker, darkly, so bear with me. Don't you need a molarity for the acid? There's no such thing as "100 % acid", maybe theoretically, but the acid molarity (how many moles, 6.02 x 10^23 molecules, haha came to me!, or radicals as they aren't stable molecules) is what matters, as the radicals are IN water, which is the basis of the acid. I don't think you can speak of a mixture of acid/water in percentage, only the molarity of the acid, how many moles of the H2SO4 molecule, for example, per liter of liquid.

    Car battery acid has to be shipped as a hazardous material, so I can't believe the drain cleaner could be that strong. I see 98% sulfuric acid drain cleaner advertised, but the 98% number is meaningless. The molarity is what matters, but that won't be advertised because the customers don't understand the chemistry, the marketing people don't understand the chemistry, and probably the president of the drain cleaner parent company doesn't understand or care about the chemistry.

    Either way, I don't know anyone with the pure evil in him to throw acid on someone who wronged him, no matter what the transgression or molarity.

    Thanks for the clarification, I had forgotten about molarity (or maybe I didn’t learn it).

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    Glad to help, though it still doesn't help us figure out which drain cleaner to get, does it? ;-}
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  79. Brutusale says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Weren’t the British a tough, sensible people that had a punctilious concern for individual liberty at one time?
     
    You've got to go back a ways. What, 50 years, maybe?

    It's like the people in Massachusetts - theoretically there should be a bunch of descendants of the patriots that started it all at Lexington and Concord, but you look around, and it's left-wing Massholes all the way down. Have a bunch of mutations happened? Is it closer to the Sun? That UV can wreak havoc on your genes.

    Every September about 250,000 people between the ages of 18 and 23 arrive in Greater Boston to attend one of the 80+ colleges and universities withing a 25 mile radius of the city, 55 of them inside Route 128. They come from all over the country, indeed the world, to the MA Indoctrination Centers like Harvard or Smith. A certain number of them, probably centrist or left-leaning when they got here, spend the next 4-8 years going Full Moonbat.

    Upon graduation, a certain number find the political atmosphere here more amenable than the benighted Flyover Country they left and decide to stay.

    That’s what drives the politics here.

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    Thanks for the reply, Brutusale. I do know about all the colleges up there, so that explanation makes a lot of sense. I'm sorry for you hold-outs.
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  80. EdwardM says:
    @Daniel H
    >>Get tough enough on acid attacks (life in prison, at a minimum) and it will mostly stop

    I don't think the attacks will stop. Muslims - due to generally low IQ - seem to be somewhat immune to exemplary sanctions that deter the typical white man.

    England and other European nations are facing some stark choices: 1) Forcible deportation of Muslims to lands of origin. 2) Division of the nation state and forcible deportation and quarantine of Muslims to Muslim zones, 3) all out civil war and the killing of many Muslims (along with many whites), followed up by either of the previous mentioned alternatives 4) submission to their new Muslim overlords.

    If you can think of any other alternatives I would like to hear them.

    5) Allow law-abiding citizens to carry firearms for self-defense. While obviously not fail-safe, this is the strongest possible countermeasure that the society could implement short of mass deportation of even some citizens.

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  81. @JackOH
    Thanks to all, and especially the British commenters.

    For the British commenters: can you see where some commenters here in the States find your government's attitude toward gun and knife ownership, well, "difficult" and illiberal? Is there any prospect at all that British citizens can be persuaded into demanding liberalization of private gun ownership laws?

    FWIW-I used to bang about a pro-Second Amendment site a few years back. The folks are thoughtful, deeply concerned about personal liberty, and not at all the gun freaks as the Left portrays them sometimes. There's a rough consensus that most unlawful shootings are domestic violence gone haywire (committed mostly by Whites), and gangbanger-related drug 'n' turf shootings (committed mostly by Blacks and Hispanics), and the latter are confined to a very tiny percentage of urban precincts. To that consensus may be added the general sentiment that confiscatory gun laws in the States, which are extremely unlikely, will always have exceptions for the wealthy, well-connected, the corrupt and corruptible, and the career criminal.

    Jack, I don’t know which sites you liked to read or “bang about”, but weaponsman died this summer, kind of suddenly. I had only first gone to his site a few months before.

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  82. @Brutusale
    Every September about 250,000 people between the ages of 18 and 23 arrive in Greater Boston to attend one of the 80+ colleges and universities withing a 25 mile radius of the city, 55 of them inside Route 128. They come from all over the country, indeed the world, to the MA Indoctrination Centers like Harvard or Smith. A certain number of them, probably centrist or left-leaning when they got here, spend the next 4-8 years going Full Moonbat.

    Upon graduation, a certain number find the political atmosphere here more amenable than the benighted Flyover Country they left and decide to stay.

    That's what drives the politics here.

    Thanks for the reply, Brutusale. I do know about all the colleges up there, so that explanation makes a lot of sense. I’m sorry for you hold-outs.

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    Don't worry about Massachusetts Deplorables! Any outsider with experience with the people of Greater Boston knows how rude we are, so telling the local moonbat to go eff herself sideways (they're all women, even the ones with penises) isn't a problem. I had one idiot at the local Starbucks complain to the manager that the Trump sticker on my laptop made her anxious and sad. I had a very short discussion with said idiot, and I haven't seen her in there since. The manager, who's a beer aficionado friend, said he was happy to have one less whiner complaining that they don't know how to make a cappuccino properly!

    It's like that viral video of the fishermen down in St. Petersburg calling 911 when they were being being harassed by PETA idiots. Fishermen on Boston's waterfront would have just beat them senseless.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zRfRTnQ2G0
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  83. @Rob McX
    Thanks for the clarification, I had forgotten about molarity (or maybe I didn't learn it).

    Glad to help, though it still doesn’t help us figure out which drain cleaner to get, does it? ;-}

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  84. Brutusale says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Thanks for the reply, Brutusale. I do know about all the colleges up there, so that explanation makes a lot of sense. I'm sorry for you hold-outs.

    Don’t worry about Massachusetts Deplorables! Any outsider with experience with the people of Greater Boston knows how rude we are, so telling the local moonbat to go eff herself sideways (they’re all women, even the ones with penises) isn’t a problem. I had one idiot at the local Starbucks complain to the manager that the Trump sticker on my laptop made her anxious and sad. I had a very short discussion with said idiot, and I haven’t seen her in there since. The manager, who’s a beer aficionado friend, said he was happy to have one less whiner complaining that they don’t know how to make a cappuccino properly!

    It’s like that viral video of the fishermen down in St. Petersburg calling 911 when they were being being harassed by PETA idiots. Fishermen on Boston’s waterfront would have just beat them senseless.

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