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The history of the human race is full of great men.

We used to be thankful, but now, increasingly, people are resentful because they were men, and mostly white. That’s problematic these days.

So, what different kind of coping strategies will we see? Let’s walk through several examples that have emerged over the years.

James D. Watson: A dual attack on Watson: Defenestration for his race/IQ realism, revisionism in reattributing credit from Watson & Crick to a woman, Rosalind Franklin. Similarly, we now know that Werner von Braun and company couldn’t haven’t gotten America to the moon without some sassy black ladies who did the math.

Alexander Hamilton: The extremely Scottish-looking plutocratic reactionary genius has recently become immensely fashionable by being retconned in the upscale popular imagination into a rapping immigrant Person of Color who used some sick rhymes to champion Wall Street supremacy. If you had tried to explain to a well-educated person 60 years ago what was going to happen to Hamilton’s image, they’d think you were nuts.

Charles Darwin: Due to fundamentalist Christian attacks on Darwin, his prestige is currently untouchable. However, over the last half century a curious Evil Twin strategy has emerged in which Darwin’s younger half-cousin Francis Galton has been assigned responsibility for whatever is deemed politically incorrect in the Darwinian tradition.

Shakespeare: Once again, untouchable in prestige. One strategy is to cite, not unreasonably, some of his early Sonnets, as evidence for this father-of-three’s presumed bisexuality, even though his plays are surprisingly lacking in evidence for homosexuality. But, hey, they are plays! And the women’s roles, by law, were played by males. So …

Something similar has happened to Hemingway, with constant reference to his toddler picture when his mom dressed him in a dress with long hair. See …

But with Shakespeare, an emerging strategy is to merge wokeism with the traditionally snobby conspiracy theory that Shakespeare was just the front man for the Real Genius. But instead of Francis Bacon or the Earl of Oxford or whomever, the real author must have been a woman, such as Emilia Bassano.

Alan Turing and Claude Shannon: Objectively, these two founding geniuses of the Information Age seem pretty comparable in achievement. But that isn’t how it’s worked out:

Alan Turing: Glamorous Hitler-defeating gay martyr!

Claude Shannon: Who?

What other strategies are there? Who is likely to get which Treatment in the near future?

 
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  1. Well, Jesus can go back to being Jewish.

  2. syonredux says:

    Let’s see:

    Defenestrate: DW Griffith, Rudyard Kipling, Lovecraft, John Wayne

    Homo-wash: Churchill? There is some evidence in his case….

  3. Dtbb says:

    Newton. He will be cast as a homo who was repressed by society

  4. half-cousin

    Half first cousin.

    There’s no such thing as a “half-cousin”. Half-first-cousins are fourth-degree relatives, just like first cousins once removed. There is nothing “half” about the latter.

  5. “He owned slaves.”

    already the strategy they’re going with for the founding fathers.

    ask kids about George Washington. that’s one of the only things they know about him.

    they’re well under attack in the public schools.

    they’ll be removed from the money and currency next.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  6. even though his plays are surprisingly lacking in evidence for homosexuality

    AL Rowse knew more about homos than any other Shakespearean scholar, and more about Shakespeare than any other homo. He believed that Will was a particularly virile straight guy.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  7. Nancy Reagan will get al the credit for Ron’s political genius, breaking down the wall, driving a stake thru the Commie heart, negotiating huge reductions in strategic nukes, etc. Nancy did it all.

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  8. The limited imagination in seeing this as strictly anti-white instead of the more obvious anti-zeitgeist book burning it is, (Is Foucalt’s work being deconstructed, for example?) that’s why you people will lose.

    For the record, this is not anti great white men, it is anti anything even remotely right wing. That’s why Booker T Washington has been erased, the recent Frederick Douglass biographer criticises the man for his calls for Black self-improvement, Netanyahu is as hated as any White Nationalist. The ‘globohomo’ package is being pushed across the continent not out of the goodness of the white liberal’s heart.

    This is a battle for cultural hegemony pushed on a global and historical scale. As a wise man once pointed out, rather than all the leg humping of Ilhan Omar’s tweets, shouldn’t the question, how it is even possible that the most prominent Muslim politician on the Left is such an orthodox Leftist, EVEN ON ISRAEL! Not even Qin Shi Huangdi went this far in trying to create a new order.

    Rather than considering cooperation, your high IQs apparently dictate pettiness and mindless nostalgia.

  9. Dr. X says:

    Well… you know it’s only a matter of time before Shakespeare gets retconned into a crypto-Nazi white supremacist who inspired the Holocaust for creating his Shylock character… and Facebook and Youtube start banning references to the Merchant of Venice…. right?

  10. @syonredux

    Churchill will be defenestrated as a sop to the sensibilities of certain minorities. Right wing Indians, no offence, are likely the greatest rivals of WNs for pettiness, like who gives a toss what Churchill thought, he had the right values.

  11. Jason Liu says:

    You’re missing the classic: “They’re not actually white.”

    Beethoven was black because one of his buddies called him short and dark, da Vinci was an Arab because his mother may have been a Middle Eastern slave girl, so-and-so is part black because his hair looks curly in this painting, etc

  12. Anonymous[336] • Disclaimer says:

    Sure seems like the landscape is changing though. Too many young high IQ White Gentiles moving into the alt-right and even beyond.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  13. @syonredux

    Churchill is doomed as a racist and anti-semite (see his early writings), though I doubt whether the line of attack will be “he only stood up for the Jews after Henry Strakosch and the Waley-Cohens bailed him out of near-bankruptcy!”, as that episode is little known even today. In fairness, he’d been critical of Hitler long before the bailout.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Strakosch

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  14. @syonredux

    Heinlein was apparently enthusiastically hetero but his writing shows a fascination with what it’s like be a woman, and especially have sex as a woman. So, plausible.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  15. anon[166] • Disclaimer says:

    >traditionally snobby conspiracy theory that Shakespeare was just the front man for the Real Genius.

    “Snobby conspiracy theory”… Why reach a bit and impugn their motives? It’s not their fault SJWs co-opted the theory.

    What about all the receptive talk from this blog over the years regarding conspiracy theories?

    Like: The 9,000 people able to keep a secret for 1/3rd of a century (here).

    If that was possible, why couldn’t a victim-less conspiracy protecting the identity of a ghost writer have happened in tight-knit Elizabethan era theatre circles?

    Or take: “Powerful insiders, such as Hillary Clinton, tend to see conspiracies, narrowly defined, everywhere.” (here).

    Maybe elites really do know what’s up?

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @keypusher
  16. Barnard says:

    There has been an ongoing movement to give credit for some of Johann Sebastian Bach’s music to his second wife, Anna Magdalena. The entirety of the evidence appears to be that she made copies for Bach after he wrote the scores. Most musical scholars have dismissed the claims, but I doubt those making them will let up until the theory is accepted.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter
  17. bomag says:

    Just plain ignoring those of ability works pretty well.

    Noted here that the Wright brothers are not in some of the latest high school history books; no women or minorities in sight to take credit for that, so on to other things.

    Unassuming John Frank Stevens, of the Panama canal, is one of the underrated men of history. He helped T. Roosevelt immensely in getting the thing built, but hardly got a mention from TR. Stevens should have had some modern PR firm on his side. And again, no women or POC in sight for this accomplishment, so let’s talk about something else.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    , @L Woods
  18. @Steve Sailer

    FWIW, Shannon grew up in the city of GAYlord, Michigan, so he’s in the running; although Gaylord is 94-1/2% white, so . . . Anyone here good at PoCemon calculus and intersectional algebra? I went to school before New Maff.

  19. Anon7 says:

    Shannon’s second wife Betty was a numerical analyst – a computer – at Bell Labs. She had a degree in mathematics from the New Jersey College for Women. She graduated Phi Beta Kappa and worked as his collaborator and research assistant.

    I guess you know what that means…

    She did all the work, she’s the real genius. Wikipedia already says she “inspired and assisted Claude in building some of his most famous inventions.”

    The fact that she was white is somewhat problematic, but I’m sure she could be portrayed by Oprah in the upcoming Broadway play “Little Runaway: The True Story Of Betty Shannon’s Law”.

    • Replies: @Anon7
  20. Barnard says:
    @Jason Liu

    I think they may pursue an argument that these men are unimportant compared to cultural giants like Jay-Z and Beyonce.

  21. JohnnyD says:

    I don’t think Hemingway’s safe. His writing was full of “toxic masculinity” and he dared to create an obnoxious Jewish character in The Sun Also Rises (only Philip Roth gets to do that). Also, he had way too much fun hunting in Africa, which makes an evil imperialist. And don’t get me started on the problematic whiteness of Robert Jordan in “For Whom a Bell Tolls.”

  22. Jimi says:

    Everyone now and then an article appears that claims David Dinkins was responsible New York’s comeback. Dinkins set in a place a bunch of policies and then Giuliani, after using racism to beat Dinkins, continued those policies and took all the credit.

  23. @Jason Liu

    Every single person depicted in classical, medieval, and Renaissance paintings was actually black. The pigments used for skin and hair tones have just faded over the centuries.

  24. @Barnard

    There has been an ongoing movement to give credit for some of Johann Sebastian Bach’s music to his second wife, Anna Magdalena.

    That’s not going to work. Her last name sounds too much like Mary Magdalene.

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Mary_Magdalene

  25. peterike says:

    I’ve been re-reading some Hemingway lately, and man, when he was good, he was really really good. And he could let rip with some genuine real-talk about the nature of women. Go back and re-read “The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber.” So he’s easily thrown on the junk heap as a sexist, and these day his kind of writing is hardly in fashion anyway. Totally expendable in the Culture Wars. To say nothing of all that cultural appropriation in “The Old Man and the Sea.”

  26. The Hidden Figures strategy seems promising. Only for good things, though; don’t expect them to inquire into the Hidden Figures behind Stalinism or Abortion, Inc or the ‘Civil Rights’ movement ( nice work on their part winning ownership of that phrase btw).

    Unless they decide to go full Khmer Rouge and just erase anything that lowers their self-esteem. I don’t think so, though. For all their talk of ‘equality,’ they crave prestige and are obsessed with credentialism. Even if Harvard and Oxbridge are producing Fringy nincompoops, they are still Harvard and Oxbridge. Also they really love stamping human faces with boots.

  27. Shannon is more important than Turing in modern world. And while the Turing Machine model of computation is more accessible and intuitive to beginning CS students than equivalently powerful models like Church’s lambda calculus, but the lambda calculus is more elegant and more relevant in a world where important computations are more often distributed over many physical machines. You can arrive at elegant formalizations of many different paradigms and strategies of computation by introducing small changes to the rules of the calculus — not so much for TMs.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @SimpleSong
  28. Anon[275] • Disclaimer says:

    “What other strategies are there? Who is likely to get the Treatment in the near future?”

    My candidate for pale male demolition derby next is Mark Twain. He wrote a book where a poor, uneducated black man spoke like a poor, uneducated black man. The N-Word (TM) was also thrown around a lot in Huckleberry Finn, regardless of context. The next time someone complains about it and you’ll have to say goodbye to the Mark Twain Prize. People who received the prize will also come under suspicion as being racist. Tina Fey may not be remembered for her Sarah Palin impressions so much as her acceptance of the Hitler Prize for Most Racist Differently-abled Humanoid Creature. Woodrow Wilson is another candidate. He was a racist segregationist who refused to let black men die in a horribly stupid war that only white men had the privilege of dying in (well, maybe that fact will inadvertently save him).

    Another strategy is to replace white males with members of other races or the opposite sex and promote them as equal in accomplishment. Marvel Comics did that in 2014 by replacing nearly all of their previous white male leads (Thor, Spiderman, Wolverine, Iceman, Hulk, Captain America) with gays, women and minorities with the expectation that the sales would just roll on in by virtue of the name alone – no quality writing needed, nor messy target demographics stuff. Hollywood did the same with Ghostbusters 2016. And they continue to do so across a variety of other properties. They’ll just replace white men with other figures and promote them in their place. Eventually, those old pale males will be forgotten about all together.*

    The sad part is that much of this will be accomplished by white beta males thirsty for social approval from women who’ll never get with them anyway. They’ll still want the Chad Republican who tells them no and sets limits for their behavior, just like that feminist blogger who wrote about her obsession with sexually degrading acts like demanding her republican boyfriend [censored] all over her. “Barry’s a republican and I hate those evil / handsome republican men, but how do I square my modern feminism with my desire to be [censored] all over … and over again?” Easy, get with a democrat. They won’t be doing any of that. They’ll want you to do that to them! Reverse the flow baby. Cross those streams. Ever seen Ghostbusters?

    In the future, students will be taught that a slave came up with relativity first or rocket science was really invented by the Mayans who loved studying celestial phenomenon. They will do this by taking some minor accomplishment and either blowing it out of proportion or taking it out of context; they’ll additionally pair it with the greater white male accomplishment so that the endeavor is seen as a multicultural, multigenerational effort and not really the sole accomplishment of the white male. Hollywood recently did something like this with one of its moon landing movies starring Ryan Gosling. I’ve seen several commenters even on this site try and do this sort of thing with supposed ancient African accomplishments.

    This will extend to the culture, too. Superman will be retconed as being secretly gay all along (Lois Lane was the beard while Clarke got with Jimmy) while politically incorrect Japanese video game characters like Mario will be banned outright on grounds of racism (lack of diversity). Next, Star Trek: TNG will be banned or censored because a couple of the earlier episodes featured a patriarchal African alien culture. Jay Leno made jokes about illegal aliens and that’s not who were are anymore. Somewhere around 2024, in the heat of Kamala Harris’s reelection bid, and you shouldn’t be surprised if the ATF raids his car garage and drags him out in chains at gunpoint with accompanying pictures of a contraband General Lee automobile (or even a jet black K.I.T.T.) – solid proof of racism. Dukes of Hazard has already been censored, but many of the old episodes will suddenly no longer be available for sale like Disney’s Song of the South. The Founding Fathers are on borrowed time all ready. Not sure if Rudyard Kipling is still available, but his memory will be smashed at some point. Restaurants like Chic-fil-a are already being banned for an opinion held by a person that isn’t even the policy of the company itself. On the bright side, movies like Look Who’s Talking will always be available because some Leftist men dream of being able to communicate with and seduce little kids right under the mother’s nose.

    IQs will be low enough in the future that many will believe the propaganda. Those who protest will be sent to the gallows and reeducated or horribly tortured because that’s not who we are and hate speech is not what we are about.

    *Ever wonder why you never hear about America’s first female senator on International Women’s Day? Well, America’s first female senator was a suffragist, equal-pay feminist who just so happened to have been a religious slave-owning Southerner and an advocate for mass lynchings should any of her fellow women in her neighborhood get raped. It’s been easy enough to memory-hole her. They’ll do the same for Jefferson and Washington before the end of the century as their views weren’t far from hers, except for the equal pay stuff and voting (probably also weren’t big fans of mass lynchings involving thousands of people but that’s a minor detail).

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    , @njguy73
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @BB753
  29. Anon7 says:
    @Anon7

    I thought I was satirizing, but I’m behind the Narrative makers on this one. This blog entry is from Scientific American:

    There was one collaborator, however, who has been written out of Shannon’s story. She was an unsung force behind his life and work, and she is one of the few who could not only keep up with Shannon but also stretch his horizons.

    Her name was Mary Elizabeth “Betty” Moore, and Shannon first met her in 1948 at Bell Labs…

    She became a close advisor to him on mathematical matters…

    They would work side by side. Betty looked up references, took down Claude’s thoughts and, importantly, edited his written work. She offered her improvements and added historical references. As Betty put it, “Some of his early papers and even later papers are in my handwriting…and not in his, which confused people at first.”

    Betty Shannon, Unsung Mathematical Genius

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Buffalo Joe
  30. Tiny Duck says:

    The truth is that the “great” white makes stoke pretty much all there ideas and accomplishments from People of Color and women.

    See arabs china and others

    You guys NEED to get out of your echo chamber and read Adam Serwer

    • Replies: @fish
  31. @YetAnotherAnon

    That white kid that runs faster than anyone: Is he a black woman?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  32. Tipsy says:

    Also: Hendrik Bode, Shannon’s boss, who collaborated with Shannon on his seminal work. The inventor of many basic mathematical approaches that electrical engineers use everyday, and some that most have forgotten or that are no longer being taught. A genius, and from all accounts, genial. I once asked Charles Townes, the inventor of the laser, about Bode (he worked with him at Bell Labs too), and he had nothing but praise for him.

  33. What “accomplishment”? The urban hipster environmentalist strategy of attacking anything that got us out of the caves as destroying Earth will be used.

  34. Anonymous[323] • Disclaimer says:

    Neil Armstrong and men who reached the Moon. The greatest hole-in-one swing in history, but too white.

    Maybe a black version can be made into a musical Armstrong is a black guy who made it to the moon on a pair of super-sneakers. More like slam dunk.

  35. @WowJustWow

    “Lambda” sounds more appropriate applied to Turing.

    Intriguing sentence in Wikipedia:

    If repeated application of the reduction steps eventually terminates, then by the Church-Rosser theorem it will produce a beta normal form.

    If Turing was lambda, was Church beta-normal?

  36. With Hamilton, the Woke street creds probably derive from the dressed-up fact that his father died, leaving his widowed mother the opportunity to be re-cast in Woke theater as a celebrated “single mom,” much like the divorced Elizabeth Warren or the widowed mother of Bill Clinton.

    The other Wokeman points accrue due to Hamilton’s birth on foreign shores. The money savvy financial manager extraordinaire, with his penchant for royalty and centralized financial control, could thus be redefined as a scrappy Third World immigrant.

    Hamilton wasn’t an ultra-responsible old-soul white kid who was trusted by an island Elite to manage his business at a stunningly young, pubescent age. He was an immigrant outsider instead of a stodgy little prodigy, recognized by moneyed Elites as a rare financial whiz, trained in hands-on business and then sent at the expense of non-familial Elites to a top university.

  37. prosa123 says:
    @syonredux

    John Wayne is safe because all three of his wives were Latin American.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @Reg Cæsar
  38. Did another male member of the tribe become a victim of the social justice war they in no small part instigated?

    A former Columbia journalism student who was accused of rape is suing the university for expelling him and succumbing to “anti-male” gender bias, according to a new lawsuit.

    Ben Feibleman filed the suit against the university on Monday in Manhattan Federal Court. He claims school authorities “grievously mishandled” an October 2016 incident in which a female acquaintance accused him of sexual assault while he was attending the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism.

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/expelled-columbia-journalism-student-accused-rape-sues-university-anti-male-bias-162059965.html

  39. songbird says:

    even though his plays are surprisingly lacking in evidence for homosexuality.

    I saw Merchant of Venice performed in the late ’90s, and Antonio and one of his friends gay-kissed. And that is why I hate theater – or one of the reasons.

    • Replies: @kihowi
  40. Lot says:

    2018 US birth data is out.

    51.5% of births were to non-hispanic white women.

    Hispanic births down 1%, white and black down 2%, asian down 3%. These are raw numbers, not rates.

    California + Texas are about 40% of hispanic US births but 12% of NS white births.

    Ohio + Michigan + Indiana are also about 12% of white births but only 2.5% of hispanic births.

    Births are flat for women 30-34, up for older women, down for younger. Teen births drop another 7% to a new record low. Under 15 births dropped even more.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  41. prosa123 says:
    @bomag

    It might be possible to recast the Wright Brothers, both of them lifelong bachelors, as gay.

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @That (Other) Guy
  42. jackson says:

    I inherited a tintype if my shitlord Iowa farmer great grandfather at about 5 years old and his mother had him dressed up in a petticoat with frilly hair. That’s what the ladies did back then.

    • Replies: @anon
  43. Steve

    Before Turing and Shannon…..their was George Boole and Charles Sanders Pierce…..Boole and Pierce laid the foundations for the field of Electrical Engineering….

    Boole went as far as the fifth grade……..but he gave us the foundations of VSLI DESIGN….BOOLEAN ALGEBRA……

    Charles Sanders Pierce’s home is a Historic National Monument…..

    His father the Harvard Mathemstician had very sensible views on race….just about like mine…..

    Charles Sanders Pierce’s home is in Milford Pennsylvannia…Tom Quick….the Indian Slayer was born in Milford Pennsylvania…..

    Steve………..Tom Quick was very open about the fact that he massacred the American Injun so that Attorney General Preet Bharrara’s People could 1) enjoy the full benefits of a Continent cleansed of Native Americans….2)So that Preet Bharrara’s People could vote Whitey into a racial minority within the borders of America on Nov 3 2020…….Aboslutely true…..Tom Quick wrote this in 1730 in his letters about his life on the American Frontier…….

    Tom Quick specifically mentioned in his letters that the Hindu Americans are to be the direct beneficiaries of his efforts….

  44. I think it’s expecting too much for normal schlubs to be aware of Shannon; for anyone with the remotest interest in Information Theory, he’s literally the Founding Father even though he acknowledged Nyquist and Hartley. It’s ‘Shannon Entropy‘ (von Neumann Entropy in the quantum information context), not ‘Turing Entropy‘.

    Expecting people to know who Shannon was, is a bit like expecting them to know who Frank Ramsey (the mathematician/economist) was, or who Stephen Smale is. I’ve taught 4th year econometrics classes where only 1 student knew who Napier was, so the bar shouldn’t be set too high.

    We can all agree that Shannon occupies a place in the Pantheon alongside Gauss, Liebniz, Euler and the two main Bernoullis… but also realise that not one person in an hundred will know their names.

    As for Turing, it’s a very different story – aside from his eponymous Test, Turing is mostly famous for his contributions to the UK war effort through his crypto work at Bletchley (although the entire ‘Enigma’ story is largely propaganda) – his contributions to the theory of computation were important, but speculative and limited: the whole ‘universal Turing machine’ line of research was largely hand-waving with little or no empirical backup. The term Turing Test (for AI) has his name in the media as ML/DL/AI advances.

    So Turing’s famous for similar reasons to Feynman: but for their War Work, they would have been recognised as important in their respective fields… and nobody would have ever heard of them. (And for Feynman, his Challenger O-ring presentation put him back in the public spotlight in a pretty big way). Shannon’s war work was less sexy – fire control systems, and cryptography that didn’t ‘break Enigma’… not as unsexy as Wald’s work, but also not ‘The Bomb’.

    Turing’s gayness is secondary, and is unknown to 99% of people who know his name. It is also highly relevant.

    He was imprisoned, expropriated (his pension reneged) and chemically tortured to the point of suicide, for his homosexuality … by a government in which closeted homosexuals were over-represented. It is entirely fitting that laws of that type are repudiated, criminal records expunged, pardons and apologies issued, and compensation paid to the living. (inb4 anyone yells “fag”: nohomo).

    As for Hamilton – fuck Hamilton. Preferably with a pike.

    He’s the prick (along with Madison) who aimed for – and tried to ensure that – the US government would eventually morph into a gigantic competitor to the existing Eurotrash Empires, with all the Death-Machinery and misery-harvesting that imperial ambition has always entailed.

    If time machines were a thing, I would kill Hamilton before I’d kill Hitler. Because if Hamilton was killed in his crib, there’s a decent chance Hitler would’ve died in obscurity.

    No Hamilton would mean that Madison would have had a very hard time perverting the course of the US ConCon (a con squared – in reality a coup d’état by the Hamilton clique).

    It’s highly likely that without Hamilton’s input, the ConCon would have resulted in tweaks to the Articles of Confederation as was intended, and nothing more. It would have taken the best part of a century before the US government began to morph endogenously into what it eventually became – all governments grow without bound until the system collapses.

    So… no centralising of power in 1787; no War of 1812; no Monroe Doctrine; no Tariff of Abominations; almost certainly no War to Prevent Southern Secession – but possibly the formation of two nations on the one continent.

    No invasion of Hawaii; no invasion of the Philippines; no entry into WWI (which would have ended in a negotiated settlement in late 1916 – because inbred syphilitic catamite warmonger Churchill would not be able to bank on the US finagling its way in).

    No Weimar; no Hitler; no WWII; no Holocaust[1].

    Seriously… Fuck Hamilton. I’m happy he’s being portrayed as a bastard bisexual beaner or a metrosexual mulatto; I only wish there was even the slightest evidence that he was a child molester, just to really rub that shit in.

    Kudos to Aaron Burr… but he was 25 years too late.

    [1] I’ve used the term (in its theological, capitalised form) deliberately here. I have serious doubts as to whether the unpleasantness in the 1940s represents a specific policy of extermination, and the numbers involved seem implausible (and are revised downwards, constantly, without the total changing).

    That said: if a government interns a very large number of people based on some specific ethnocultural characteristic, and a whole bunch of them wind up dead (from any cause – typhus, for example) then the government has committed a grave crime and its leadership should be punished. (Freemasons were also sent to the camps – one of the reasons why the Forget-me-Not has a special place in Masonic culture)

  45. @Dtbb

    Well, he was probably all messed up in the cabeza, after he took an apple to the head[1]… that’s almost as bad as taking an arrow to the knee.

    [1] No, he didn’t.

  46. @Reg Cæsar

    There’s no such thing as a “half-cousin”.

    Lies.

    Just use a bandsaw – the number of half-cousins that can be produced is then limited only by the number of cousins in stock. Done careful it’ll be 2:1, but there’ll be some wastage.

    If the cousins are frozen, and with careful band-sawing, the cousin-division could continue all the way to (1/N)th-cousinry, where 1/N is the share of Native American genetics in Elizabeth Warren.

    There’s almost always a technological solution.

  47. L Woods says:
    @bomag

    As I said earlier: the idea that credit for achievement is largely stolen by self-promoting sociopaths/extroverts has merit…it’s just that those from whom credit is stolen are still white guys. So, indeed, let’s talk about something else.

  48. syonredux says:
    @prosa123

    John Wayne is safe because all three of his wives were Latin American.

    Blacks > Latinx:

    JOHN WAYNE: It’s not my judgment. The academic community has developed certain tests that determine whether the blacks are sufficiently equipped scholastically. But some blacks have tried to force the issue and enter college when they haven’t passed the tests and don’t have the requisite background. … But if they aren’t academically ready for that step, I don’t think they should be allowed in. Otherwise, the academic society is brought down to the lowest common denominator. … What good would it do to register anybody in a class of higher algebra or calculus if they haven’t learned to count? There has to be a standard. …

    Wayne: With a lot of blacks, there’s quite a bit of resentment along with their dissent, and possibly rightfully so. But we can’t all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks. I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don’t believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people.

    Wayne’s gonna become an unperson….just like DW Griffith

  49. bomag says:
    @prosa123

    Some put homosexuality on a continuum: one can be 2% gay; 25% gay; etc.

    Next step is to ascribe all accomplishment to one’s percentage of gayness, no matter how slight.

  50. @syonredux

    Nah, he’s right and he’s not a pussy. Too much fraternizing with the enemy – the SJWs cull the weak, not the strong.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  51. kihowi says:

    I was thinking about that just the other day. The strategy is simpler than you think. There’s really only four possibilities. You could fit it nicely into a square with horizontally whether the thing the white man did is considered good or bad and vertically how certain we are that he did it.

    GOOD and NO DOUBT: Don’t mention his whiteness. Keep him as abstract as possible. Focus on how he hurt other undesirables. Darwin is talked about much more as scourge of fundamentalist Christians than as an interesting personality. Let alone whether his theory has any other implications for human beings.

    GOOD and DOUBT: A more appropriate person with the required amount of deviation actually did it.

    NOT GOOD AND DOUBT: Nah he did it though.

    NOT GOOD and NO DOUBT: Hurray! Go nuts!

  52. @Dr. X

    Well… you know it’s only a matter of time before Shakespeare gets retconned into a crypto-Nazi white supremacist who inspired the Holocaust for creating his Shylock character… and Facebook and Youtube start banning references to the Merchant of Venice…. right?

    The recognition of Shakespeare’s genius is the biggest coup that can be taken in the barbarians’ raids on the humanities. I used to think his position was unassailable, given the thousands of careers and the oceans of scholarship devoted to his works, but I don’t anymore.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  53. @Anon7

    They best be careful, sounds like she made him a pretty damn good Handmaid, if you take my meaning.

  54. @The Last Real Calvinist

    There’s no L in STEM. As long as the conservatards all fixate on fields any halfwit H1B can handle, they’ll continue to lose and our heritage will continue to get trashed.

  55. syonredux says:
    @Desiderius

    Nah, he’s right and he’s not a pussy. Too much fraternizing with the enemy – the SJWs cull the weak, not the strong.

    We’ll see…..But let me note this: A friend of mine teaches film studies, and he told me that the Blacks and SJWs on campus are really disturbed by Wayne. Indeed, he knows some film studies profs who have dropped The Searchers from the syllabus…..

  56. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    I think there’s something to that. When V.S. Naipaul got the Nobel Prize it really didn’t go over well with the Euro-American intellectual community, i.e. leftists. But now these same people are really enthused about Mayor Pete Buttgrin or whatever his name is. Being white does not disqualify anyone from cosmopolitan liberal esteem– that would make no sense. Periodically they whoop up the Honky-Cracka-Whitey pandering shtick since it does work, spectacularly well, with the same non-whites who are often “challenged” to represent strained progressive virtue in other aesthetic aspects.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  57. kihowi says:
    @songbird

    You really can only read Shakespeare. Otherwise you run the risk that Hamlet turns out to be a transgender Muslim or whatever excruciatingly fashionable combination of traits they could come up with.

    Why would you want to have the work of genius a marred by a mediocrity? What on earth could anybody possibly add? The only task the director and set deigner have when doing Shakespeare is to stay out of the way and let the audience forget that they exists.

  58. @Desiderius

    There’s no L in STEM.

    Here in HK, where most students (and nearly all parents) focus like crazy on STEM subjects, there’s been just a bit of recent pushback. The term ‘STEAM’, with the ‘A’ standing for ‘Arts’, i.e. humanities and fine arts subjects, has been allowed into the official conversation as a plausible model for student learning.

    It’s only one character out of five, but hey, it’s better than nothing.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Pericles
  59. Dr. X says:
    @Anon

    My candidate for pale male demolition derby next is Mark Twain. He wrote a book where a poor, uneducated black man spoke like a poor, uneducated black man. The N-Word (TM) was also thrown around a lot in Huckleberry Finn, regardless of context. The next time someone complains about it and you’ll have to say goodbye to the Mark Twain Prize.

    Twain’s use of the word n_gger is NOTHING compared to what he wrote about the Indian:

    http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/HNS/Indians/redman.html

    But your prophecy is too late, anyway. Twain has already been removed from a number of high school and college reading lists…

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/so-long-huck-finn-and-atticus-finch/

  60. @Anonymous

    Owen Benjamin says we didnt go to the moon.

  61. @Jason Liu

    Yeah I predict this. Everyone who isn’t super pale, blond/red haired will be retconned as being mixed. Eventually barely anyone will be seen as white, which in a weird way is slightly better than endlessly complaining about the evils of the white man, I guess. This already happens with younger people; they think Elvis is mixed. When showing pictures of Louis XIV and Lenin to my class and they also thought they were mixed based on the wig and nose…

  62. @Anonymous

    Satchmo’s bleeding gums had to blow a plenty of brass to get his space-blaxporing ass to the Moon:

  63. fish says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Ohs Tinys…

    Who be dat Adan Sewer you be goan on bout?

    Lendern “I’s be jenuiley konfused” Splibst

  64. guest says:

    Hemingway was anti-commie, as I recall. Based on what he witnessed in Spain and China. How is this dealt with? There was a t.v. movie about his relationship with Martha Gellhorn, with whom he visited people like Chou En-lai and so forth. I think. I’ve never seen the movie, but I’m going to guess he’s all about drinking, fishing, and punching.

    • Replies: @FPD72
  65. @Anon7

    Anon, years ago many women did that. It was called taking dictation and transcribing. Years ago newspapers make every hick and hayseed sound like a Cambridge graduate. Today, they quote as spoken. Last week’s Buffalo News quoted a recent signing by the Buffalo Bills as saying…”I ain’t got no love for the game no more.”

  66. nebulafox says:

    My personal favorite: Mileva Maric was the one who “really” came up with special relativity and explained the photoelectric effect. I kid you not, I’ve actually had someone try to tell me this. (To the best of my knowledge, no, this guy did not have any background in physics whatsoever.)

    I think it’d be great if we had more women go into physics or computer science. I don’t think falsifying history is the way to do it.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
  67. njguy73 says:
    @Anon

    My candidate for pale male demolition derby next is Mark Twain. He wrote a book where a poor, uneducated black man spoke like a poor, uneducated black man. The N-Word (TM) was also thrown around a lot in Huckleberry Finn, regardless of context. The next time someone complains about it and you’ll have to say goodbye to the Mark Twain Prize. People who received the prize will also come under suspicion as being racist. Tina Fey may not be remembered for her Sarah Palin impressions so much as her acceptance of the Hitler Prize for Most Racist Differently-abled Humanoid Creature.

    The Mark Twain prize will be discontinued. But not because reading Twain will be forbidden. It will be because humor will be forbidden.

  68. @Anon

    Well, America’s first female senator was a suffragist, equal-pay feminist who just so happened to have been a religious slave-owning Southerner and an advocate for mass lynchings should any of her fellow women in her neighborhood get raped.

    I wasn’t sure if you meant Mrs William H Felton or Mrs Thaddeus Caraway. The latter actually was elected, more than once. She voted against anti-lynching bills, but it was Mrs Felton who pushed lynching as a noble activity:

    When there is not enough religion in the pulpit to organize a crusade against sin; nor justice in the court house to promptly punish crime; nor manhood enough in the nation to put a sheltering arm about innocence and virtue –if it needs lynching to protect woman’s dearest possession from the ravening human beasts – then I say lynch, a thousand times a week if necessary.

    — Mrs. W.H. Felton, August 11, 1897

    Rough justice has no place in a civilized society, but none of the jurisdictions where lynchings took place had a functioning court system yet, so they had no alternative, did they?

  69. For fun I asked a lefty friend a hypothetical.

    If we could go back in time to the colonial era and explain the Hamilton phenomenon to American blacks and whites, who would be more confused?

    After a few moments he nodded solemnly and answered ‘blacks’.

  70. Wilkey says:

    But with Shakespeare, an emerging strategy is to merge wokeism with the traditionally snobby conspiracy theory that Shakespeare was just the front man for the Real Genius. But instead of Francis Bacon or the Earl of Oxford or whomever, the real author must have been a woman, such as Emilia Bassano.

    Shakespeare Wrote Shakespeare Theory: Not enough evidence to give him credit for his plays…other than the fact that he performed them, that they were credited to him during his life, etc, etc.

    Emilia Bassano Wrote Shakespeare Theory: There was a woman in Othello named Emilia, and an Italian in Merchant named Bassanio. Categorical proof she wrote them!

    • Replies: @Hail
  71. AusReader says:

    Darwin might not stay safe for much longer. Modern progressives don’t really like Darwinism, since moral behaviour is no guarantee of success. And there’s all the historical use of Darwin to justify imperialism, colonialism, etc. Epigenetics is popular on the left because if it were true, genetic differences in the Americas could be blamed on white people.
    Darwin himself was a 19th century liberal, but there are still passages in The Descent of Man that would get him Watsoned today. Opposition to fundamentalist Christianity is itself largely a white middle class belief. I would not be surprised if some awkward quotes went viral and resulted in progressives calling for Darwin to be banned from schools.

  72. @prosa123

    John Wayne is safe because all three of his wives were Latin American.

    Yes, but unlike a real Latin American, he had them in succession, not two at a time.

    https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/my-husband-another-wife-living-outside-the-us-can-i-become-us-citizen.html

  73. Anon[422] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    none of the jurisdictions where lynchings took place had a functioning court system yet,

    Cite?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  74. The biggest thing I’ve noticed as I’ve gotten older is the vast differences in fame between people who did pretty comparable things. Creative intellectual breakthroughs are pretty much by definition sui generis, so unlike a sporting contest, you can never definitively answer who was ‘better’. So this leaves a lot of room to put thumbs on the scale depending on what agenda you are pushing. People who know a lot about a field can come to a consensus about who was more or less important, but laypeople don’t have the tools to do anything other than believe what they’re told.

    You give great examples in Shannon/Turing and Darwin/Galton. Now those are obviously politically motivated but there are often less malicious reasons somebody gets elevated and somebody gets shunned.

    For example, for much of my life I believed that, for whatever reason, the United States tended to produce top rate engineers and inventors, but never really produced any first rate basic scientists. Now I realize there were plenty of first rate American basic scientists, (Gibbs, Shannon, Church, for example) and many of the inventors were perhaps a bit overrated (Edison.) But for whatever reason Americans like to the idea of themselves as swashbuckling inventor-entrepreneurs, and they don’t like the idea of themselves as introverted theorists. So the theorists were forgotten and the inventors (particularly the financially successful inventors) were elevated perhaps a bit beyond their station.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
  75. @prosa123

    Orville in particular seems quite effeminate in some of the photos of them. The more I learn about them the more I think he may have been gay. Probably never acted on it though.

  76. @WowJustWow

    I’ve heard Alonzo Church was quite religious as is Donald Knuth (both Christian.) Seems unusual in the academy–are they just one-offs or is this a pattern in computer science?

  77. @Nigerian Nationalist

    that’s why you people will lose.

    No. We will win. But you will still live in Nigeria.

    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
  78. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Also they really love stamping human faces with boots.

    Agreed.

    Unless they decide to go full Khmer Rouge and just erase anything that lowers their self-esteem. I don’t think so, though.

    What the hell are you writing abnout?

  79. @Steve Sailer

    That was her astrologers’ work. Leave Nancy alone!

  80. @Reg Cæsar

    so they had no alternative, did they?

    They did not. Do we?

  81. Hail says: • Website
    @Wilkey

    they were credited to him [the W.S. of Stratford] during his life

    They were ‘credited’ to a “William Shakespeare.” The Stratford theater man signed his own name as “Shakspere,” so there’s that. Then there is the fact that the latter’s death passed without any recorded mention.

    But skeptics may reasonably ask why the Earl of Oxford would have chosen some random theater guy to be his “front man.” It may not exactly have been planned that way. It may be that after a few years, the nom-de-plume and the similarly-named, conveniently-placed Stratford theater man “merged,” turning a pseudonym into a front man. This is, anyway, the argument of some proponents of the Earl of Oxford theory.

    As for the origin of the pseudonym: Oxford may have originally chosen “Shakespeare” in the same way that he chose names for his dramatic and comedic characters — to subtly imply personality or character-aims:

    First, what grasp can we get on the Sonnets’ language? The masterful language seems to come out of nowhere in Tudor England. One is reminded of Romano’s painting of Achilles, face hidden by his throwing-arm, as he raises a spear aloft to strike. Each and every poem is an argument posed and resolved, but implicit in each is the ability to communicate both on the surface and secretly simultaneously, without revealing either source or subject. The tensing spear in the painting may have inspired De Vere to use that very term, shake-spear, to mask his identity like Achilles as he forged and flung the language of his race. (By W.J. Ray)

    Romano (d. 1546), it so happens, is the only artist that ‘Shakespeare’ ever mentions by name, hence attention is surely merited (for those interested at all in an open inquiry of available evidence). Given the Earl of Oxford’s extensive travels in Italy and the circles he traveled in, it is likely-to-certain he was familiar with the works of Romano, and likely he was familiar with this painting (of Achilles ‘shaking’ his ‘spear’) in particular.

    This is, I think, the painting in question, proposed as the inspiration for the ‘Shakespeare’ name:

    More evidence pointing to a possible Romano connection for early Shakespeare:

    One senses that the Stratfordian perspective on the poem is similar to that more extreme view of the Sonnets, that Lucrece [1594] was no more than an arbitrary writing exercise. And one on which Shakespeare earned a C-minus, given the awkward intrusion of the long and seemingly pointless tangent describing Trojan War paintings, amounting to about one ninth of the entire poem and placed smack in the middle of Lucrece’s raw grieving! (By Michael Delahoyde, 2006)

  82. Anon[115] • Disclaimer says:

    I see that some guy in the UK finally decoded the Voynich manuscript (it took him two weeks), and it turns out that it was written by nuns, not monks. You go girl!

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/05/no-someone-hasnt-cracked-the-code-of-the-mysterious-voynich-manuscript/

    The medeval studies people will like this.

    • Replies: @Graham
  83. @nebulafox

    There’s been a concerted effort to cast gorgeous ’30s actress Hedy Lamarr as some kind of raw scientific genius, inventing a guidance system used in WWII or some such

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  84. anon[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @jackson

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeching_(boys)

    Same with my grandfather (b. 1915). They were rural Southerners.

    Also, funny anecdote. It only came up in conversation maybe once, but he didn’t refer to homosexuals as gay. They were perverts. He was of the belief that a perfectly fine word had been ruined.

  85. Classical music and metal are two of the whitest bastions of whiteness left to pillage. But I’m pretty sure Mozart, Beethoven or Tony Iommi never owned any slaves, or stole their music from some elderly black blues guy

  86. keypusher says:
    @anon

    It’s snobby because it’s based on the belief that a commoner from the sticks couldn’t be a great playwright. It was snobby long before SJWs existed.

    If that was possible, why couldn’t a victim-less conspiracy protecting the identity of a ghost writer have happened in tight-knit Elizabethan era theatre circles?

    By “tight-knit” I assume you mean “back-stabbing and gossipy”? Ultra was a secret worth keeping; Shakespeare conspiracy theories are notable for the complete lack of plausible motive, in particular after Oxford, Shakespeare, Elizabeth et al. were dead. And the duration of the conspiracy was quite a bit longer than Ultra’s. It continued even after the Puritans closed the theaters (because the Puritans would have hated for people to learn that the most famous plays in England had really been written by a dissolute crypto-Catholic nobleman). And not only did it work perfectly for 50+ years, the conspiracy left no trace of its existence.

    Nor would the conspiracy have been limited to theatrical circles; it would have required the cooperation of the court, including foreign ambassadors who hated Elizabeth and/or James or who just loved juicy gossip, and many of London’s publishers — in 1600 alone, eight Shakespeare plays were published, along with two editions of the Rape of Lucrece. While he was alive, play publishing was a much bigger part of the book world than it is today, and he was by far the biggest name in it.

  87. keypusher says:
    @Hail

    Then there is the fact that the latter’s death passed without any recorded mention.

    “On Mr Wm Shakespeare /he dyed in Aprill 1616.”

    https://shakespearedocumented.folger.edu/exhibition/document/manuscript-copy-william-basses-elegy-william-shakespeare

    More notice than Oxford got. And that painting…in a country awash in great art, you and Ray think Oxford noticed that? With friends like you, who needs enemies?

  88. Johnny789 says:

    I’d like to see accomplished men re-evaluated by the quality of their Prom Dates, or lack thereof.

  89. @SimpleSong

    I forgot to add–there is also the economic element regarding who becomes well known and who is forgotten. If someone’s abstruse ideas become the theoretical basis of a successful industry they will almost always be venerated.

    People spend a significant portion of their lives at work. They want to believe that they are working in an important guild founded by a great genius. For example nowadays a lot of people spend a lot of time coding. They don’t want to think that they are spending their brief time on earth designing AI to classify cat videos for cutecats.com. They want to think of themselves as part of something bigger. So there is a pseudo-religious need to elevate the pioneers of the field. That’s why Shannon and Church and Turing were relatively obscure during their careers but have gained much more fame as the years roll by.

    A century ago the development of thermodynamics followed an analogous arc. A lot of the early pioneers were just trying to answer practical questions like ‘what is the maximum efficiency of an engine.’ Answering questions like that paid the bills but a lot of people find it unsatisfying to spend their lives tallying pounds of coal burned. So thermodynamics got pushed out to some places you wouldn’t expect and ended up answering some very profound questions. And the legions of people who followed, and worked as chemists or engineers or whatever venerated these people for connecting their 9 to 5 jobs to some very profound, basic truths.

  90. Darwin tends to get attacked predominately by left-wing British journalists or journalists who want be historians. I saw a biography recently a local library, by someone named A.N. Wilson, who in it apparently blames Hitler on Darwin, but gives Marx a pass on Stalin. He apparently also claims he much prefers S.J. Gould to Darwin as well. Sounds pretty leftist to me but apparently some American reviewers think he is a closeted religious thinker, missing the common thread that unites the militant left and religious right.

    Galton on the other hand gets dumped on by the full range of lefties, the University College of London where Galton’s collection is kept has a video on YouTube. The whole piece consists of a bunch of Middle Eastern and African undergrads taking turns denouncing him for incorrect thinking and ends with a Muslim psych student smugly assuring the viewer that Galton scientific accomplishments are no good because racism. He even insinuates that Galton invented fingerprint analysis for India because thought all Indians looked alike.

  91. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Neovictorian23

    Lafayette Hubbard (who lived with Robert Heinlein at Jack Parson’s mansion) says he cucked Heinlein, and may be telling the truth. Heinlein was all for sexual equality long before it was normal, was consistently thirsty in tone, and there are passages that are unnervingly beta.

  92. Anon[123] • Disclaimer says:

    “The latter actually was elected, more than once.”

    I think Felton was more of an honorary but still legal federal senator for a short period of time if I recall. I don’t think she was ever elected, but she did technically have the office first. There’s even a video of her in 1929 giving an interview on YouTube – seems nice enough. She isn’t mentioned in modern history books for obvious reasons. It’s sort of funny how beliefs are a bit fluid depending upon circumstance and era. The modern conception of a feminist is a cat lady with purple hair and that dumb pink hat. This lady was, er, a way different kind of feminist. Conan the Barbarian might have blushed in her presence.

    “none of the jurisdictions where lynchings took place had a functioning court system yet, so they had no alternative, did they?”

    Maybe, but still you’d think proportionality would be a consideration. Claiming a thousand black men should be summarily lynched with or without trial is a bit harsh. Did George Washington have similar views? … never mind, I’m sure he did and wrote them down somewhere (see Mark Twain’s opinions on Indians above).

  93. anon[335] • Disclaimer says:

    The project is to tear down all greatness. The Left is not going to replace old heroes with new heroes. Imagine an angry sullen punk sneering at you forever.

  94. Anon[100] • Disclaimer says:

    “John Wayne is safe because all three of his wives were Latin American.”

    I don’t know about that. Wayne made some controversial statements in a Playboy interview decades ago:

    “With a lot of blacks, there’s quite a bit of resentment along with their dissent, and possibly rightfully so,” Wayne said in the interview. “But we can’t all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks. I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don’t believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people.”

    https://www.newsmax.com/thewire/john-wayne-racist/2019/02/20/id/903506/

    Since he’s seen as a hero to right-wing caricatures LA journalists have of republicans, he could be in serious trouble at some point. But that guy from Lost in Space and Zoro retired to Argentina, so I guess he’s good, though. Maybe we should put him on Mount Rushmore? It wouldn’t surprise me the way things are going.

  95. @Reg Cæsar

    Hi Reg. Your head appears to need soaking again.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  96. @JohnnyD

    I don’t think Hemingway’s safe. His writing was full of “toxic masculinity” and he dared to create an obnoxious Jewish character in The Sun Also Rises

    Hemingway may be in danger, but it certainly won’t be because of Robert Cohn. When I read the novel I instantly identified that character as a sop thrown toward the publishing world. A pugilist from Princeton? Seriously? A defender of the traditional, courtly mores of social interaction? The eternal victim at the hands of the goyim?

    Let’s get serious. This is exactly how most Jews–particularly then–wanted to see themselves. And what you call ‘obnoxious’ others call ‘assertive’…which Cohn wasn’t, particularly, as it happens.

  97. @Anonymous

    “First Black Woman on the Moon”

  98. @The Last Real Calvinist

    Yeah, I’ve seen that locally too. Whether it’s STEM or STEAM or STLGQBTAM, it’s still a fundamental misunderstanding of what arts and sciences are and thus are for. Smashing together Science and Technology in the first place was an act of profound ignorance. It’s glorified cargo cultism.

  99. Pericles says:
    @JohnnyD

    And don’t get me started on the problematic whiteness of Robert Jordan in “For Whom a Bell Tolls.”

    Internal memo, unnamed NYC publisher. Time to commission the beloved follow-up, “It Be TOllin for YOU, Cracka”. Acquisitions tasked with discovering the original manuscript. PR, order the usual reviews, contact schools for distribution. Editor, required 30-50 pp ‘receiving’ relationship of EH with masc Cuban, contact casting for followup. Budget as agreed, lower estimate. Due date 3 Sep.

  100. “Charles Darwin: Due to fundamentalist Christian attacks on Darwin, his prestige is currently untouchable.”

    Wait until the powers that be conveniently decide to dust off “The Descent of Man” and read the problematic bits.

  101. @Hail

    “They were ‘credited’ to a “William Shakespeare.” The Stratford theater man signed his own name as “Shakspere,” so there’s that.”

    Yes, that certainly is that. And don’t forget, that Paul McCartney died in November of 1966, and subsequent Beatles albums contain the clues that told the world that there was a fake Paul in the band.

  102. Pericles says:
    @Anonymous

    When V.S. Naipaul got the Nobel Prize it really didn’t go over well with the Euro-American intellectual community, i.e. leftists. But now these same people are really enthused about Mayor Pete Buttgrin or whatever his name is.

    What’s the contradiction?

  103. @syonredux

    This quote was used as justification NOT to honor Wayne with a ‘John Wayne Day’ by CA’s state legislature in 2016.

  104. Pericles says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    The term ‘STEAM’, with the ‘A’ standing for ‘Arts’, i.e. humanities and fine arts subjects, has been allowed into the official conversation as a plausible model for student learning.

    Funny, because wasn’t the point of ‘STEM’ to make a bright line on campus with ‘A’ and the rest of the useless, soft and poz buildings on the other side?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  105. Anonymous[787] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, Christopher Columbus *the* father of the New World, and all that sprung from it – perhaps the most onerous single title any man in history can claim – is already being painted as a nasty little villain and is being consigned to the memory home, (unthinkable only a couple of generations ago), for the crime of being white, European and male.

    The irony is, of course, that without Columbus none of the jackals trying to tear him down would ever have been brought forth into existence – in a sense, Columbus, the man they love to hate, is their God and All-Father.

  106. Cortes says:

    Lord Flashheart must be a candidate for outing after his revelation in this:

  107. @Lot

    Back in my day sonny, teenagers got pregnant like they were supposed to!
    Actually, no BS, 1991, the year I graduated high school, had the highest out of wedlock teen birth numbers. I remember a lot of panic about that fact at the time.

    • Replies: @Lot
  108. What about the retconned version of Captain Ahab, Ishmael, and the Great White Whale?

    • Replies: @Kylie
  109. Anonymous[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Neil Armstrong was helped by the indispensable team of black female mathematicians at NASA. Haven’t you seen Hidden Figures?

  110. @Dtbb

    I read a popular science book from John Gribbin, The Scientists, that declared Newton was gay. To me, he appears an obvious autist incel who had trouble in personal relationships, enjoyed correcting people and in-your-facing them, and couldn’t get along with the ladies because he was an autist incel. Gribbin said he must have been gay because he was awkward with people, which was proof he was hiding something, or something like that. Gribbin didn’t even seem to be pushing an agenda but was stupid enough to believe that he could figure out the truth of something that occurred hundreds of years ago.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
  111. @JohnnyD

    The gangsters in “The Killers” sound pretty Jewish, too (‘you were in a kosher convent’) – and there’s the little detail about who owns the Swede’s lodging house.

    Well, good-night, Mrs. Hirsch’, Nick said.
    I’m not Mrs. Hirsch’, the woman said. ‘She owns the place. I just look after it for her, I’m Mrs. Bell.
    Well, good-night, Mrs. Bell’, Nick said.
    Good-night,’ the woman said.

  112. Gordo says:

    Alexander and Welchman’s contribution at Bletchley forgotten already Steve? Just because they weren’t into sodomy, soixante-neuf and mutual masturbation with other blokes?

  113. I once observed two women I knew to be feminists exchange a shocked look when Hamelt opined, “Frailty, thy name is woman!” Then they both stood up and exited the theater.

  114. tyrone says:
    @syonredux

    That was a wide spread sentiment 50 or 60 years ago …….still good sense too….John Wayne …we love him so.

    • Agree: Kylie
  115. Graham says:
    @Anon

    Yeah, except that he didn’t decode it. I started reading his paper last night and it just got less and less credible until I realised it was crap. Actually it seemed fishy from the beginning, because he referred to proto-Romance supposedly having been spoken in the 15th century.

    See https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/05/no-someone-hasnt-cracked-the-code-of-the-mysterious-voynich-manuscript/

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  116. Anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Graham

    O.K., I guess my tongue is too much in cheek, and snark italics don’t cure that. The other day I wrote a comment along the lines that the noose chicks were sick, and it produced a dozen or so irate responses, including from Steve, before someone read it closely and pointed out that perhaps I wasn’t serious.

  117. @Reg Cæsar

    Maybe we can make the Darwin-Galton clan the subject of a Jeff Foxworthy comedy routine or a Jerry Springer episode. No two men are better qualified to get to the bottom of this controversy.

  118. Kylie says:
    @The Alarmist

    They better not even think about retconning Moby Dick. Seriously.

    Probably the most upsetting comment I’ve read in my ten plus years here.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  119. @william munny

    I know he writes tons of books, I’ve checked out a few of them, and bought one way back in the day. His understanding of a lot of topics seems pretty superficial. I’ve heard his book on mass extinctions had a lot of mistakes in it and wild speculations.

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  120. @Pericles

    It was, but then finally some of the savvier conservatives realized how colossally stupid and ignorant that take was.

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  121. BB753 says:
    @Anon

    Once they throw Washington under the bus, will they rename the capital after a more woke person? MLK City, Obamatown, MalcolmXville, or perhaps Wakanda?

  122. BB753 says:
    @syonredux

    John Wayne sounded very educated for an actor.

    • Replies: @FPD72
  123. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @prime noticer

    He bangs black chicks is the obverse. Must be with the zeitgeist. points for hispanic, demerits for asians. GI joe used force back in the day is the subtext

  124. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Unladen Swallow

    like libary wise ?

    you a vagrant er ?

  125. Not Raul says:

    Joseph Desch doesn’t get enough credit. He built a better Bombe than Turing did. It was so good that, by the end of the war, the British were sending most of their work to Desch’s group.

    The first Bombe was developed in Poland by Marian Rejewski and others, and when they fled Poland, they helped the British develop theirs. So Turing gets way too much credit.

  126. @Kylie

    Wow, then I better not bring up Hester Prynne #MeToo.

  127. @Nigerian Nationalist

    Cooperation with whom? The vast pool of human capital that is the Nigerian nationalist community? These types of criticisms are so incredibly obtuse, who is the natural black, or hell, even just non-white ally of Western nationalists? Non-white allies in significant numbers, or even just in SOME number but with any siginificant capability would actually be somewhat useful if coordinated correctly, but the problem is that they don’t exist.

    The “black nationalist” movement in the west is a joke that, besides being more or less a more intense version of the standard liberal platform, is so laughably deficient that they wouldn’t be worth working with even if we did have aligning interests. The closest thing I can think of to a conceivable non-white ally would be Andrew Yang. Who is… a liberal democrat in favor of reparations and is pro immigration! Jeez, with “allies” like these…

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  128. @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    True, but I’m young enough to know my generation had no hand in ruining her. Hell, we might even leave the place better than we found it.

    How about you Charles, can you beat your chest and say you improved your inheritance or did you look on impotently at its ruination?

  129. Lot says:
    @Redneck farmer

    Drop is like 80% from the peak.

  130. In Sweden, a plan was considered that would save the trouble of bringing down each individual Great Man.

    Since so many “Swedish” children are now immigrants, what is the point of teaching Swedish history? It isn’t relevant to the newcomers. It isn’t the story of their forefathers. They just want a place where the locals won’t kill them, and there is free stuff. Swedish history, and its Great Men, might as well be a work of fiction, as fanciful as Lord of the Rings.

  131. @Anon

    Cite?

    The lynchings themselves. The citizens are voting “no confidence” in the criminal justice system.

  132. @Mr McKenna

    Precision of terminology is critical in the sciences.

  133. Anon[110] • Disclaimer says:

    Shakespeare: Once again, untouchable in prestige. One strategy is to cite, not unreasonably, some of his early Sonnets, as evidence for this father-of-three’s presumed bisexuality, even though his plays are surprisingly lacking in evidence for homosexuality. But, hey, they are plays! And the women’s roles, by law, were played by males. So …

    Shakespeare was not dumb. Imagine at that time, on his plays, where men say about the love and beauty of boys, like on the sonnets. The stage would have received rotten eggs and be lynched. His sonnets were problematic at that age. The poems on the first editions were altered to be looked as straight.

  134. CCZ says:

    Elevate those with the highest “adversity score,” just as the new SAT test does!

    “Along with scores measuring math and reading comprehension, the test will include an “adversity score” that indicates a test taker’s social and economic background.

    “Adversity scores will be measured on a scale of 1 to 100, with under 50 indicating privilege and over 50 indicating socioeconomic hardship. The number will look at 15 factors, including the crime rate in a student’s neighborhood and whether the student was raised in a single-parent household. The score will be invisible to students — it will be reported only to college officials, according to The New York Times.”

    https://www.businessinsider.com/college-board-is-adding-adversity-score-to-sat-2019-5

    The Wall Street Journal reported that race will not be a factor in the score, however, the Journal also noted that, when the College Board tested the use of the “adversity score” with 50 colleges last year, the result was greater nonwhite student enrollment.

  135. @Known Fact

    No, just a very talented and determined dabbler. The principles upon which that guidance system operated were later used for wifi. She’s the usual daddy’s girl exception. Also invented Aspen.

  136. “couldn’t haven’t gotten America to the moon without some sassy black ladies who did the math”

    The irony here is that back then “Ebony” and “Jet” were screaming that NASA was wasting millions while blacks were starving and NASA didn’t bother to bring up the sassy black ladies then……..which begs the question, why not?

  137. FPD72 says:
    @BB753

    I know he played football at USC. Whether or not he graduated, I’m sure he picked up some communication skills as a “college man” back when that meant something.

  138. FPD72 says:
    @guest

    In the movie “Papa: Hemingway in Cuba” Hemingway is portrayed as running guns for Castro. Since it was filmed in Cuba with government cooperation, who knows how truthful that might have been.

    He did seem favorable toward the rebels in the Spanish Revolution.

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  139. Pericles says:
    @Desiderius

    Humanities and fine arts are dead at the universities. But by all means, enjoy your crudely made but very important postcolonialist works questioning racist and sexist Western society at the next Venice Biennal.

    He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the fine, sexually ambiguous moustache of the Department Chair. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two cannabis-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved the English Department.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  140. @Pericles

    I know they’re dead dipshit. They’re dead because we abandoned them like a foundling child left in the wilderness.

    Conservatives like to crack wise about how the SJW lunacy on campus reminds them of the Chinese Cultural Revolution, but the real American Cultural Revolution was started and waged long before by conservatives (sic) themselves as they decided to make their best and brightest glorified accountants and auto mechanics all in the name of the golden STEM calf.

    The Queen of the Sciences is Theology. Yet one will of course find no mention of His name anywhere in the STEM curriculum, let alone the study of His nature and works.

    Heckuva job, Lockey!

  141. JMcG says:
    @FPD72

    Hemingway was a supporter of the Republic in the Spanish Civil War. It was the elected government of the country, was very left wing, and was riddled with commies.
    Franco launched his Coup and led the nationalist forces to their ultimate victory.
    Hemingway was on the commie side. Robert Jordan, the protagonist in For Whom the Bell Tolls, gives his life in service to communism.
    I like early Hemingway a great deal, but the guy was garbage.

  142. @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    People are individuals. There is no White, Black, Red or Yellow Borg.

    Find like-minded individuals, build from there. That’s how organisms that don’t want to die out survive.

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