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Update: Or maybe this is a joke. Let me check some more.

Upupdate: I found a different photo of this middle-aged 16-year-old’s in the Daily Mail on 10/24/2016, but so far I haven’t it in The Guardian.

Upupupdate: This Guardian cover is for real! It’s not a satire like I worried it might be after I put up the post below. I hate being wrong, so I try hard not to be wrong.

Here’s the Tweet sent out by The Guardian with a photo of its front page.

And so, here below is my original post, which turned out to be correct. The Guardian’s frontpage of 10/25/16 was so self-evidently hilarious that about five minutes after I posted it here I got cold feet and figured that nobody could be that smugly delusional so there might be a high chance it is a photoshopped satire on The Guardian.

But, no. It’s really for real. So, here’s my original post, which I’ve since verified:

Here’s a screenshot of The Guardian’s front page on 10/25/2016:

Screenshot 2017-02-08 16.33.28

The Guardian’s caption under its photo of one of the “children” reads:

Screenshot 2017-02-08 16.35.56

“A 16-year-old from Ethiopia cries while he awaits registration at a processing centre in the makeshift camp near Calais”

Upupupupdate: Commenter Inertial has found video proof of this child being only 16:

 
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  1. inertial says:

    I am 16 going on 17
    I know that I’m naive
    Fellows I meet may tell me I’m sweet
    And willingly I believe

    I am 16 going on 17 innocent as a rose
    Bachelor dandies
    Drinkers of brandies
    What do I know of those?

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    Thanks.
    , @Barnard
    If only Rolf was still around to hunt him and his teenage friends down and send them back to Ethiopia.
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  2. That poor child. Hey! Guess what! I just bought the Brooklyn Bridge!!!

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  3. It was also apparently used by France Info, then redacted.

    http://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.fr/2016/10/franceinfo-changes-text-on-its-website.html

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  4. If you think about it, that’s a doubly perfect strategy for claiming asylum. Just subtract a few decades off your age, and it’s undeniable proof you must have gone through hell.

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  5. And to think that the pretend encyclopedia has banned the Daily Mail as a source….

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  6. kihowi says:

    The Guardian is a housewife in a domestic quarrel who’s at the point where she is just screaming things that she knows are nonsense but she doesn’t know how to stop.

    Nobody at the Guaridan thinks this is a 16 year old. Nobody. But, what is anybody going to do about it? Firebomb their offices? If white people were that scary, women wouldn’t want any immigrants to begin with.

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  7. @inertial
    I am 16 going on 17
    I know that I'm naive
    Fellows I meet may tell me I'm sweet
    And willingly I believe

    I am 16 going on 17 innocent as a rose
    Bachelor dandies
    Drinkers of brandies
    What do I know of those?

    Thanks.

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  8. Broski says:

    Look at his forehead wrinkles! For a black fellow to get forehead wrinkles like that takes quite a number of decades, indeed.

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    I take it 36 is the new 16? Actually he looks older than many people I know in their mid-thirties.
    , @Anonymous Nephew
    How can you all be so heartless? Those lines graven on his forehead are tangible proof of the trauma he's experienced in his short life.

    (Just as the very low clear-up rates for murders of black men (see Steve's post above) are proof that the police don't take those murders seriously?)
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  9. Anonym says:

    Bringing a gun to an intellectual pillow fight is poor form, Steve.

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  10. Dumbo says:

    A mere typing mistake. It was supposed to be “a 61-year old child”. For the media, blacks and non-whites are always children, no matter how old.

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  11. @Broski
    Look at his forehead wrinkles! For a black fellow to get forehead wrinkles like that takes quite a number of decades, indeed.

    I take it 36 is the new 16? Actually he looks older than many people I know in their mid-thirties.

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    If he's a day under 45, I'm Queen Elizabeth.
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  12. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Complete ass kicking stuff from Ann Coulter up on drudge and another push for an immigration TIMEOUT and not just deportation of felons. We know Trump is reading this and loving it!

    A MANIAC IS RUNNING OUR FOREIGN POLICY! (IT’S NOT TRUMP) February 8, 2017

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-02-08.html

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  13. SPMoore8 says:

    If this guy is 16, he’s like Frederick in Pirates of Penzance, born on February 29.

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  14. ‘How many fingers, Winston?’

    ‘Four. I suppose there are four. I would see five if I could. I am trying to see five.’

    ‘Which do you wish: to persuade me that you see five, or really to see them?’

    ‘Really to see them.’

    ‘Again,’ said O’Brien.

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  15. In other news…
    Wikipedia has banned Daily Mail as an “unreliable” source in their battle against “fake news.”

    Of course Daily Mail is unreliable in suppressing perp pix and other hate facts that might otherwise threaten the MSM / Cathedral narrative.

    https://news.slashdot.org/story/17/02/08/225203/wikipedia-bans-daily-mail-as-unreliable-source

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    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta:

    The Daily Mail, according to me the world's Newpaper of Record, has consistently published pictures of refugeees questioning their purported (and incredulous) ages. All the more reason for the DM to be drummed out of the august Wikipedia.
    , @Forbes
    In alternative fake news: Daily Mail has banned Wikipedia as an unreliable source in their battle against fake news.

    (No irony quotes used.)
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  16. The Guardian is often disparagingly referred to as The Grauniad in the UK, thanks to its notoriety for typos and errors, dating back to the days when it was the Manchester Guardian.

    In those days, the paper was set by hand, and the edition destined for London by express train was printed first, in the early morning hours, before typos were removed.

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    Long after they had computerized typesetting, until 1978, the Linotype Operators Union in NY resisted computerization and insisted that every line of type in the NY Times be set in hot lead on Linotype machines (a true wonder of 19th century technology but very long in the tooth by 1978). Even though ads came to the NY Times as camera ready art, if the ad contained any words, the union had to set the words in type and then they would be discarded. The paper was FULL of typos every day.
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  17. Barnard says:
    @inertial
    I am 16 going on 17
    I know that I'm naive
    Fellows I meet may tell me I'm sweet
    And willingly I believe

    I am 16 going on 17 innocent as a rose
    Bachelor dandies
    Drinkers of brandies
    What do I know of those?

    If only Rolf was still around to hunt him and his teenage friends down and send them back to Ethiopia.

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  18. We had one of these guys playing high school basketball in Windsor. They think he is about 30 but who knows?

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    It's possible to estimate age, but actually doing so would be racis'

    Here is a 2012 survey paper about this:
    Age estimation in youths and young adults. A summary of the needs for methodological research and development
    https://www.nr.no/en/nrpublication?query=/file/1355995517/Age_estimation_methods-Eikvil.pdf

    , @Jim Don Bob
    Yeah, and his excuse was that his Mama never told him how old he was!
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  19. biz says:

    Also notice the country of origin: Ethiopia.

    Not Syria. Not Afghanistan. Not Iraq.

    A nice rejoinder to those civilizational masochists who claim that somehow recent actions by Western nations are to blame for the current wave mass migration. No western country has invaded Ethiopia or done much with it in a long time.

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    Ethiopia currently has a left of center government that appears to be fairly well organized. They just put in a light rail mass transit system in the capital city, they're building a giant hydroelectric dam on the Blue Nile, etc. There is the usual ethnic squabbling going on, but, all in all, by Ethiopian standards, this is about as good as it gets.
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  20. Nieve says:

    He could be the African Benjamin Buttons.

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  21. With such nice white teeth, the teary-eyed teen could have been the poster child for Ethiopian dentistry had he stayed.

    It makes you shudder to realize things could get so bad in a place that a 16 year old’s appearance would harden into that of a middle-aged warlord.

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  22. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The Onion, circa 1998: “Sudanese 14-Year-Old Has Midlife Crisis”

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  23. LKM says:

    Never underestimate the ability of well-meaning white people to suspend disbelief when it comes to Africans, as Canadians found out last year when a star Sudanese high school basketball player in Windsor turned out to be, well, not high school aged:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/basketball/the-facts-in-jonathan-nicolas-case-are-sometimes-a-bit-hazy/article29813704/

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  24. Jack D says:
    @PiltdownMan
    The Guardian is often disparagingly referred to as The Grauniad in the UK, thanks to its notoriety for typos and errors, dating back to the days when it was the Manchester Guardian.

    In those days, the paper was set by hand, and the edition destined for London by express train was printed first, in the early morning hours, before typos were removed.

    Long after they had computerized typesetting, until 1978, the Linotype Operators Union in NY resisted computerization and insisted that every line of type in the NY Times be set in hot lead on Linotype machines (a true wonder of 19th century technology but very long in the tooth by 1978). Even though ads came to the NY Times as camera ready art, if the ad contained any words, the union had to set the words in type and then they would be discarded. The paper was FULL of typos every day.

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  25. Funny I never for a moment thought it was a parody. When I read your updates I was very glad that it wasn’t. Then I was sad I was glad that it was genuine, widely distributed fraud. We’re THERE. I think running the program, preserving the narrative, over years, may affect human ability to gauge accuracy. I think perhaps Guardian editors saw the photo and were so accustomed to lying to themselves, to seeing and so reporting only what the narrative permits, they simply didn’t recognize photo and sob story begging our expensive indulgence of a 35 year old child for the hilarious fail they are. To sell the whopper that open borders, floodgate immigration is a good thing, is boon to any nation, the eye must tell the brain that red is blue and up is down. At some point, this cost them ability to see their pants are on fire, everyone’s laughing their heads off, and they’re still not in on the gag.

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  26. Jack D says:

    I’m wondering why this is appearing now? I googled the image and the day that it appeared, various people were making fun of it immediately. You don’t have to be Einstein to see that’s no 16 year old.

    You really have to wonder, are they THAT naive and credulous? Or are they THAT cynical and have such a low opinion of their target audience that they feed this crap to them and accept them to buy it? Or are they so blinded by ideology that they have to accept the lies that a black man tells them because it would be racist not to? What’s the explanation?

    Now and then, I have bee approached by black (it’s always black) grifters who tell some long elaborate story about how they lost their wallet and need $ to buy a train ticket to get home, etc., etc., etc. Sometimes if their story is somewhat creative and has entertainment value I will give them a buck because it really takes some acting and writing talent to construct a believable story and come off as convincing. A part of you (the stupid part) actually sorta wants to believe their story because it sounds so convincing on a certain level (just like the tears of the “child”). You put yourself in the shoes of the other person and you think, “I would never tell someone I lost my wallet unless I actually lost my wallet, so this fellow must be telling the truth too.” (Of course at that point the sane part of you says, nah, he’s lying). Sometime I think that if these same people devoted the same amount of energy that they devoted to scams to a legitimate business they could succeed.

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    Or are they so blinded by ideology that they have to accept the lies that a black man tells them because it would be racist not to? What’s the explanation?

    I suspect it is the same instinct that causes people to accept the immaculate conception, that wine is turned into blood, that sort of thing. Ideology taps into the same circuits as religion does. But I don't know whether they are useful idiots, cynics who know their audience, or trolls.
    , @TelfoedJohn
    I once had a West African man convince me that his wife was in labor and he needed money for a cab to get to the hospital. 3 months later he tried the same thing with me,
    , @NorthOfTheOneOhOne

    Sometime I think that if these same people devoted the same amount of energy that they devoted to scams to a legitimate business they could succeed.
     
    Two years ago a rental house in the cul-de-sac directly behind my house was rented to a family of Roma. Our house is on a bit of a rise, so my wife and I could sit in our backyard and watch their activites without being seen. The family consisted of grandma and grandpa, middle-aged son and his wife, a son who looked about 19, and a couple of teenage girls with an ever changing number of young children. We were never 100% sure how many kids were living there as the number seemed to change from day to day.

    The men's main line of business seemed to be buying used cars that were cosmetically ok, but had doubtful engines. They would detail them inside and out, then pressure wash the engines before selling them through Auto Trader or Craig's List. The women seemed to be emplyed to shop-lifting and would go out in pairs every couple of hours, always with a gaggle of the kids. I'm pretty sure they were shop-lifting because they moved in with very little household goods but within a week or so started hosting yard sales with lots of women's clothes for sale.

    The matter finally came to a head when my wife saw them sell the refrigerator, washer and dryer that came with the house at one of the yard sales. They also sold a concrete planter that had sat in the front yard for the past 10 years. We checked the tax records, found out who the owner was and contacted him though Facebook and told him what was going on. The Roma bolted not long after that.

    The creepy part of all this was:

    1) They used little to no electricity, I figured they hadn't had the billing set up and must've know how much they could get away with before the power company came knocking. They kept the windows and doors open night and day. We live in the greater Phoenix area and it was summer, so that was truly bizarre.

    2) There was always a person on guard, usually the grandpa. He always sat at a window or in one of the open doors or out in the garage. He would sit there for hours and hours keeping look out. We'd see him sitting there all day and half the night before one of the teenagers would spell him.

    While they were in the house (which was about 2 months) the cops were at that house for one reason or another every couple of days.

    All I could think while this was going on was; "There's got to be an easier way to make a buck than that!".

    , @Forbes

    Or are they so blinded by ideology that they have to accept the lies that...->fill-in the blank<-
     
    We use a mental accounting system to "fill-in the blank" in a world that is too complex to comprehend. With tens of thousands of years, or more, of living instinctually, e.g. fight-or-flight, we don't know another way. Call them what you want, a rule of thumb, stereotypes, heuristics, models, conventional wisdom, common sense, and yes, ideology. We deploy them to make sense of a world we little understand.

    Grifters, con-men, panhandlers, flim-flam artists all know how to look after themselves by taking advantage of the gullible in high-trust societies--and now they know that Western liberal democracies, themselves, are the perfect mark in their scam. They'd be silly not to take advantage (in their view).

    Yes, blinded by ideology (belief system)--ordinarily facts and experience would overcome such, but ideology is another substitute for thinking in our mental accounting system.

    , @Stan Adams
    I always keep a couple of spare one-day passes in my wallet. (An one-day pass, good for unlimited bus and train travel anywhere in the county, is about $5. Not bad.) If someone asks me for bus fare, I usually don't mind giving him a pass.

    If the bum looks disappointed - as often happens - then I know I've been had. But it's still good karma.
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  27. Dan Hayes says:
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    In other news…
    Wikipedia has banned Daily Mail as an “unreliable” source in their battle against “fake news.”

    Of course Daily Mail is unreliable in suppressing perp pix and other hate facts that might otherwise threaten the MSM / Cathedral narrative.


    https://news.slashdot.org/story/17/02/08/225203/wikipedia-bans-daily-mail-as-unreliable-source

    Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta:

    The Daily Mail, according to me the world’s Newpaper of Record, has consistently published pictures of refugeees questioning their purported (and incredulous) ages. All the more reason for the DM to be drummed out of the august Wikipedia.

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    I hope there will always be a Daily Mail.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3863392/Foster-mother-discovers-12-year-old-Afghan-refugee-orphan-cared-21-year-old-jihadi.html

    The foster mom suspected that he wasn't 12, but didn't know he was a 21 year old jihadi till they checked his phone.


    She added that his last words to her were 'I’ll kill you and I know where your children are.'
     
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  28. Mr. Anon says:

    He’s a trans-teen: a sixteen-year-old trapped in a thirty-four-year-old’s body.

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  29. wren says:

    I don’t know if I would want to let that young man in.

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  30. @biz
    Also notice the country of origin: Ethiopia.

    Not Syria. Not Afghanistan. Not Iraq.

    A nice rejoinder to those civilizational masochists who claim that somehow recent actions by Western nations are to blame for the current wave mass migration. No western country has invaded Ethiopia or done much with it in a long time.

    Ethiopia currently has a left of center government that appears to be fairly well organized. They just put in a light rail mass transit system in the capital city, they’re building a giant hydroelectric dam on the Blue Nile, etc. There is the usual ethnic squabbling going on, but, all in all, by Ethiopian standards, this is about as good as it gets.

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    We really need to combat the Narrative that the rest of the planet is this prison where mean, greedy Westerners keep everybody else locked up. World immigration to the West seems to have the same dynamic as Puerto Rican immigration to the US: greedy, incompetent elites in Asia and Africa offload their surplus populations on the West; smart Asians and Africans view the West as the world's escape hatch, and eventually there won't be a West.

    Here's a former US-born city employee of Buffalo, New York, who's now president of Somalia:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/08/newly-elected-president-somalia-recently-city-employee-buffalo/

    Apparently he was prime minister back in 2011.
    , @Kyle McKenna
    Meanwhile Ethiopia--yet another black country that cannot feed itself--has just passed the 100-million mark in population.

    No one forced Africa, or India, or China to produce billions of humans. Unfortunately no one stopped them, either. Yet somehow it's our responsibility to take care of them when they get here.
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  31. wren says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta:

    The Daily Mail, according to me the world's Newpaper of Record, has consistently published pictures of refugeees questioning their purported (and incredulous) ages. All the more reason for the DM to be drummed out of the august Wikipedia.

    I hope there will always be a Daily Mail.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3863392/Foster-mother-discovers-12-year-old-Afghan-refugee-orphan-cared-21-year-old-jihadi.html

    The foster mom suspected that he wasn’t 12, but didn’t know he was a 21 year old jihadi till they checked his phone.

    She added that his last words to her were ‘I’ll kill you and I know where your children are.’

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    What imperialists you Westerners are, imposing your base 10 system on the wonderful numeridiversity of the globoculturalists!

    12 is 21 in...well, neither base 6 (20) or base 5 (22), but between, and if that's good enough for Afghanistan, it should be good enough for you!

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  32. Anonym says:
    @Jack D
    I'm wondering why this is appearing now? I googled the image and the day that it appeared, various people were making fun of it immediately. You don't have to be Einstein to see that's no 16 year old.

    You really have to wonder, are they THAT naive and credulous? Or are they THAT cynical and have such a low opinion of their target audience that they feed this crap to them and accept them to buy it? Or are they so blinded by ideology that they have to accept the lies that a black man tells them because it would be racist not to? What's the explanation?

    Now and then, I have bee approached by black (it's always black) grifters who tell some long elaborate story about how they lost their wallet and need $ to buy a train ticket to get home, etc., etc., etc. Sometimes if their story is somewhat creative and has entertainment value I will give them a buck because it really takes some acting and writing talent to construct a believable story and come off as convincing. A part of you (the stupid part) actually sorta wants to believe their story because it sounds so convincing on a certain level (just like the tears of the "child"). You put yourself in the shoes of the other person and you think, "I would never tell someone I lost my wallet unless I actually lost my wallet, so this fellow must be telling the truth too." (Of course at that point the sane part of you says, nah, he's lying). Sometime I think that if these same people devoted the same amount of energy that they devoted to scams to a legitimate business they could succeed.

    Or are they so blinded by ideology that they have to accept the lies that a black man tells them because it would be racist not to? What’s the explanation?

    I suspect it is the same instinct that causes people to accept the immaculate conception, that wine is turned into blood, that sort of thing. Ideology taps into the same circuits as religion does. But I don’t know whether they are useful idiots, cynics who know their audience, or trolls.

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  33. a reader says:

    A couple similar cases.

    It doesn’t help that routine medical tests, such as checking dental records, have not been carried out because it could be ‘intrusive’.

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  34. @Jack D
    I'm wondering why this is appearing now? I googled the image and the day that it appeared, various people were making fun of it immediately. You don't have to be Einstein to see that's no 16 year old.

    You really have to wonder, are they THAT naive and credulous? Or are they THAT cynical and have such a low opinion of their target audience that they feed this crap to them and accept them to buy it? Or are they so blinded by ideology that they have to accept the lies that a black man tells them because it would be racist not to? What's the explanation?

    Now and then, I have bee approached by black (it's always black) grifters who tell some long elaborate story about how they lost their wallet and need $ to buy a train ticket to get home, etc., etc., etc. Sometimes if their story is somewhat creative and has entertainment value I will give them a buck because it really takes some acting and writing talent to construct a believable story and come off as convincing. A part of you (the stupid part) actually sorta wants to believe their story because it sounds so convincing on a certain level (just like the tears of the "child"). You put yourself in the shoes of the other person and you think, "I would never tell someone I lost my wallet unless I actually lost my wallet, so this fellow must be telling the truth too." (Of course at that point the sane part of you says, nah, he's lying). Sometime I think that if these same people devoted the same amount of energy that they devoted to scams to a legitimate business they could succeed.

    I once had a West African man convince me that his wife was in labor and he needed money for a cab to get to the hospital. 3 months later he tried the same thing with me,

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    It was his other wife?
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  35. @TelfoedJohn
    I once had a West African man convince me that his wife was in labor and he needed money for a cab to get to the hospital. 3 months later he tried the same thing with me,

    It was his other wife?

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  36. @Broski
    Look at his forehead wrinkles! For a black fellow to get forehead wrinkles like that takes quite a number of decades, indeed.

    How can you all be so heartless? Those lines graven on his forehead are tangible proof of the trauma he’s experienced in his short life.

    (Just as the very low clear-up rates for murders of black men (see Steve’s post above) are proof that the police don’t take those murders seriously?)

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  37. Living not by the lies. Very handshakeworthy.

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  38. I don’t know. Peter O’ Toole looked pretty mature for a 12 year old.

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  39. AndrewR says:
    @Perspective
    I take it 36 is the new 16? Actually he looks older than many people I know in their mid-thirties.

    If he’s a day under 45, I’m Queen Elizabeth.

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  40. res says:
    @Another Canadian
    We had one of these guys playing high school basketball in Windsor. They think he is about 30 but who knows?

    https://youtu.be/Tr6dkagDnGU

    It’s possible to estimate age, but actually doing so would be racis’

    Here is a 2012 survey paper about this:
    Age estimation in youths and young adults. A summary of the needs for methodological research and development

    https://www.nr.no/en/nrpublication?query=/file/1355995517/Age_estimation_methods-Eikvil.pdf

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  41. @Steve Sailer
    Ethiopia currently has a left of center government that appears to be fairly well organized. They just put in a light rail mass transit system in the capital city, they're building a giant hydroelectric dam on the Blue Nile, etc. There is the usual ethnic squabbling going on, but, all in all, by Ethiopian standards, this is about as good as it gets.

    We really need to combat the Narrative that the rest of the planet is this prison where mean, greedy Westerners keep everybody else locked up. World immigration to the West seems to have the same dynamic as Puerto Rican immigration to the US: greedy, incompetent elites in Asia and Africa offload their surplus populations on the West; smart Asians and Africans view the West as the world’s escape hatch, and eventually there won’t be a West.

    Here’s a former US-born city employee of Buffalo, New York, who’s now president of Somalia:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/08/newly-elected-president-somalia-recently-city-employee-buffalo/

    Apparently he was prime minister back in 2011.

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  42. @Another Canadian
    We had one of these guys playing high school basketball in Windsor. They think he is about 30 but who knows?

    https://youtu.be/Tr6dkagDnGU

    Yeah, and his excuse was that his Mama never told him how old he was!

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  43. Wouldn’t a 16 year old from a place like Ethiopia look YOUNGER than one from an advanced Western nation due to poor nutrition ? Also , given their politics regarding immigration isn’t the name The Guardian a ” fookin ‘ misnomer ” – to borrow from the movie Trainspotting .

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  44. Forbes says:
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    In other news…
    Wikipedia has banned Daily Mail as an “unreliable” source in their battle against “fake news.”

    Of course Daily Mail is unreliable in suppressing perp pix and other hate facts that might otherwise threaten the MSM / Cathedral narrative.


    https://news.slashdot.org/story/17/02/08/225203/wikipedia-bans-daily-mail-as-unreliable-source

    In alternative fake news: Daily Mail has banned Wikipedia as an unreliable source in their battle against fake news.

    (No irony quotes used.)

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    Next time Wikipedia is demanding cash, send them a note saying you'll be contributing to the Daily Mail instead.
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  45. @Jack D
    I'm wondering why this is appearing now? I googled the image and the day that it appeared, various people were making fun of it immediately. You don't have to be Einstein to see that's no 16 year old.

    You really have to wonder, are they THAT naive and credulous? Or are they THAT cynical and have such a low opinion of their target audience that they feed this crap to them and accept them to buy it? Or are they so blinded by ideology that they have to accept the lies that a black man tells them because it would be racist not to? What's the explanation?

    Now and then, I have bee approached by black (it's always black) grifters who tell some long elaborate story about how they lost their wallet and need $ to buy a train ticket to get home, etc., etc., etc. Sometimes if their story is somewhat creative and has entertainment value I will give them a buck because it really takes some acting and writing talent to construct a believable story and come off as convincing. A part of you (the stupid part) actually sorta wants to believe their story because it sounds so convincing on a certain level (just like the tears of the "child"). You put yourself in the shoes of the other person and you think, "I would never tell someone I lost my wallet unless I actually lost my wallet, so this fellow must be telling the truth too." (Of course at that point the sane part of you says, nah, he's lying). Sometime I think that if these same people devoted the same amount of energy that they devoted to scams to a legitimate business they could succeed.

    Sometime I think that if these same people devoted the same amount of energy that they devoted to scams to a legitimate business they could succeed.

    Two years ago a rental house in the cul-de-sac directly behind my house was rented to a family of Roma. Our house is on a bit of a rise, so my wife and I could sit in our backyard and watch their activites without being seen. The family consisted of grandma and grandpa, middle-aged son and his wife, a son who looked about 19, and a couple of teenage girls with an ever changing number of young children. We were never 100% sure how many kids were living there as the number seemed to change from day to day.

    The men’s main line of business seemed to be buying used cars that were cosmetically ok, but had doubtful engines. They would detail them inside and out, then pressure wash the engines before selling them through Auto Trader or Craig’s List. The women seemed to be emplyed to shop-lifting and would go out in pairs every couple of hours, always with a gaggle of the kids. I’m pretty sure they were shop-lifting because they moved in with very little household goods but within a week or so started hosting yard sales with lots of women’s clothes for sale.

    The matter finally came to a head when my wife saw them sell the refrigerator, washer and dryer that came with the house at one of the yard sales. They also sold a concrete planter that had sat in the front yard for the past 10 years. We checked the tax records, found out who the owner was and contacted him though Facebook and told him what was going on. The Roma bolted not long after that.

    The creepy part of all this was:

    1) They used little to no electricity, I figured they hadn’t had the billing set up and must’ve know how much they could get away with before the power company came knocking. They kept the windows and doors open night and day. We live in the greater Phoenix area and it was summer, so that was truly bizarre.

    2) There was always a person on guard, usually the grandpa. He always sat at a window or in one of the open doors or out in the garage. He would sit there for hours and hours keeping look out. We’d see him sitting there all day and half the night before one of the teenagers would spell him.

    While they were in the house (which was about 2 months) the cops were at that house for one reason or another every couple of days.

    All I could think while this was going on was; “There’s got to be an easier way to make a buck than that!”.

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  46. Forbes says:
    @Jack D
    I'm wondering why this is appearing now? I googled the image and the day that it appeared, various people were making fun of it immediately. You don't have to be Einstein to see that's no 16 year old.

    You really have to wonder, are they THAT naive and credulous? Or are they THAT cynical and have such a low opinion of their target audience that they feed this crap to them and accept them to buy it? Or are they so blinded by ideology that they have to accept the lies that a black man tells them because it would be racist not to? What's the explanation?

    Now and then, I have bee approached by black (it's always black) grifters who tell some long elaborate story about how they lost their wallet and need $ to buy a train ticket to get home, etc., etc., etc. Sometimes if their story is somewhat creative and has entertainment value I will give them a buck because it really takes some acting and writing talent to construct a believable story and come off as convincing. A part of you (the stupid part) actually sorta wants to believe their story because it sounds so convincing on a certain level (just like the tears of the "child"). You put yourself in the shoes of the other person and you think, "I would never tell someone I lost my wallet unless I actually lost my wallet, so this fellow must be telling the truth too." (Of course at that point the sane part of you says, nah, he's lying). Sometime I think that if these same people devoted the same amount of energy that they devoted to scams to a legitimate business they could succeed.

    Or are they so blinded by ideology that they have to accept the lies that…->fill-in the blank<-

    We use a mental accounting system to “fill-in the blank” in a world that is too complex to comprehend. With tens of thousands of years, or more, of living instinctually, e.g. fight-or-flight, we don’t know another way. Call them what you want, a rule of thumb, stereotypes, heuristics, models, conventional wisdom, common sense, and yes, ideology. We deploy them to make sense of a world we little understand.

    Grifters, con-men, panhandlers, flim-flam artists all know how to look after themselves by taking advantage of the gullible in high-trust societies–and now they know that Western liberal democracies, themselves, are the perfect mark in their scam. They’d be silly not to take advantage (in their view).

    Yes, blinded by ideology (belief system)–ordinarily facts and experience would overcome such, but ideology is another substitute for thinking in our mental accounting system.

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  47. @Jack D
    I'm wondering why this is appearing now? I googled the image and the day that it appeared, various people were making fun of it immediately. You don't have to be Einstein to see that's no 16 year old.

    You really have to wonder, are they THAT naive and credulous? Or are they THAT cynical and have such a low opinion of their target audience that they feed this crap to them and accept them to buy it? Or are they so blinded by ideology that they have to accept the lies that a black man tells them because it would be racist not to? What's the explanation?

    Now and then, I have bee approached by black (it's always black) grifters who tell some long elaborate story about how they lost their wallet and need $ to buy a train ticket to get home, etc., etc., etc. Sometimes if their story is somewhat creative and has entertainment value I will give them a buck because it really takes some acting and writing talent to construct a believable story and come off as convincing. A part of you (the stupid part) actually sorta wants to believe their story because it sounds so convincing on a certain level (just like the tears of the "child"). You put yourself in the shoes of the other person and you think, "I would never tell someone I lost my wallet unless I actually lost my wallet, so this fellow must be telling the truth too." (Of course at that point the sane part of you says, nah, he's lying). Sometime I think that if these same people devoted the same amount of energy that they devoted to scams to a legitimate business they could succeed.

    I always keep a couple of spare one-day passes in my wallet. (An one-day pass, good for unlimited bus and train travel anywhere in the county, is about $5. Not bad.) If someone asks me for bus fare, I usually don’t mind giving him a pass.

    If the bum looks disappointed – as often happens – then I know I’ve been had. But it’s still good karma.

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  48. Olorin says:

    Thou hard-hearted cynic, Mr. Sailer!

    The Guardian
    reports immivaders’ ages in base 5!

    It’s only fair since they come from countries too poor and downtrodden to count on more than one hand’s fingers!

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  49. Olorin says:
    @wren
    I hope there will always be a Daily Mail.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3863392/Foster-mother-discovers-12-year-old-Afghan-refugee-orphan-cared-21-year-old-jihadi.html

    The foster mom suspected that he wasn't 12, but didn't know he was a 21 year old jihadi till they checked his phone.


    She added that his last words to her were 'I’ll kill you and I know where your children are.'
     

    What imperialists you Westerners are, imposing your base 10 system on the wonderful numeridiversity of the globoculturalists!

    12 is 21 in…well, neither base 6 (20) or base 5 (22), but between, and if that’s good enough for Afghanistan, it should be good enough for you!

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    Yup, you nailed it. Dari and Pashto are both right to left written languages, so who am I to read 12 as 12? I should have dropped my privilege and read it from the right.

    As an aside, I didn't know that one of Afghanistan's official languages, Dari, is essentially Persian or Farsi.

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  50. @NorthOfTheOneOhOne

    Sometime I think that if these same people devoted the same amount of energy that they devoted to scams to a legitimate business they could succeed.
     
    Two years ago a rental house in the cul-de-sac directly behind my house was rented to a family of Roma. Our house is on a bit of a rise, so my wife and I could sit in our backyard and watch their activites without being seen. The family consisted of grandma and grandpa, middle-aged son and his wife, a son who looked about 19, and a couple of teenage girls with an ever changing number of young children. We were never 100% sure how many kids were living there as the number seemed to change from day to day.

    The men's main line of business seemed to be buying used cars that were cosmetically ok, but had doubtful engines. They would detail them inside and out, then pressure wash the engines before selling them through Auto Trader or Craig's List. The women seemed to be emplyed to shop-lifting and would go out in pairs every couple of hours, always with a gaggle of the kids. I'm pretty sure they were shop-lifting because they moved in with very little household goods but within a week or so started hosting yard sales with lots of women's clothes for sale.

    The matter finally came to a head when my wife saw them sell the refrigerator, washer and dryer that came with the house at one of the yard sales. They also sold a concrete planter that had sat in the front yard for the past 10 years. We checked the tax records, found out who the owner was and contacted him though Facebook and told him what was going on. The Roma bolted not long after that.

    The creepy part of all this was:

    1) They used little to no electricity, I figured they hadn't had the billing set up and must've know how much they could get away with before the power company came knocking. They kept the windows and doors open night and day. We live in the greater Phoenix area and it was summer, so that was truly bizarre.

    2) There was always a person on guard, usually the grandpa. He always sat at a window or in one of the open doors or out in the garage. He would sit there for hours and hours keeping look out. We'd see him sitting there all day and half the night before one of the teenagers would spell him.

    While they were in the house (which was about 2 months) the cops were at that house for one reason or another every couple of days.

    All I could think while this was going on was; "There's got to be an easier way to make a buck than that!".

    Interesting. I would imagine that keeping an eye on a house full of Gypsies would beat most of what’s on TV.

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  51. wren says:
    @Olorin
    What imperialists you Westerners are, imposing your base 10 system on the wonderful numeridiversity of the globoculturalists!

    12 is 21 in...well, neither base 6 (20) or base 5 (22), but between, and if that's good enough for Afghanistan, it should be good enough for you!

    Yup, you nailed it. Dari and Pashto are both right to left written languages, so who am I to read 12 as 12? I should have dropped my privilege and read it from the right.

    As an aside, I didn’t know that one of Afghanistan’s official languages, Dari, is essentially Persian or Farsi.

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  52. @Forbes
    In alternative fake news: Daily Mail has banned Wikipedia as an unreliable source in their battle against fake news.

    (No irony quotes used.)

    Next time Wikipedia is demanding cash, send them a note saying you’ll be contributing to the Daily Mail instead.

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  53. @Steve Sailer
    Ethiopia currently has a left of center government that appears to be fairly well organized. They just put in a light rail mass transit system in the capital city, they're building a giant hydroelectric dam on the Blue Nile, etc. There is the usual ethnic squabbling going on, but, all in all, by Ethiopian standards, this is about as good as it gets.

    Meanwhile Ethiopia–yet another black country that cannot feed itself–has just passed the 100-million mark in population.

    No one forced Africa, or India, or China to produce billions of humans. Unfortunately no one stopped them, either. Yet somehow it’s our responsibility to take care of them when they get here.

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  54. There was an article last year about a 6’10″ seventeen year old from Kenya was granted refugee status in Canada. After enrolling in school he became a big star on the basketball team, as you can imagine. He was dating alit of his female classmates and even got one pregnant ( aren’t these girls taught about the risk of getting aids from consorting with these African refugees?) Well anyway, after a year or so they found who the little orphaned refugee really was and that he was actually twenty-eight.

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  55. Madbent says:

    Oh Steve. Steve, Steve, Steve. I excuse all you have done, until this. You evil hater – where is your compassion for Ethiopian progeriacs????

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