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You may be wondering why Syrian and Iraqi refugees are pouring into Europe rather than into, say nearby Saudi Arabia. Well, Saudi officials planned ahead.

Although the Israelis are the most renowned anti-immigrant border fence builders, which is why Hungary and Bulgaria are negotiating with Israel right now, it’s really not that arcane an art. For example, if you can build an airliner, you can build a really good fence, like Airbus is building for Saudi Arabia. In fact, fence-building is one of the oldest and most developed crafts and there are no doubt perfectly fencing contractors with a few miles of you right now, wherever you are. When people tell you it’s practically impossible or unbelievably expensive to keep out economic immigrants, they are either lying or ignorant or both.

 

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  1. 900 km = 552 miles, or 28% the length of the 1954 mile US border with Mexico.

    Saudi Arabia has less than 1/10th as many people as the US and less than 40% of our per capita income. Adjusted for population and income, if Saudi Arabia can afford a $3.4 billion border fence then the US should be able to afford a $92 billion fence.

    An equivalent length US fence, though, would only cost $12.1 billion based on what the Saudis paid. That’s more than I expected, based on a rough guesstimate of ~$1,000 per foot (~$10 billion), and it might be more given higher pay rates for American workers, but it would be quite reasonable at even twice the price.

    Funny that it’s affordable for the Saudis but not for us. I mean after all, what did we ever do that Saudi Arabia hasn’t done – besides land on the moon, defeat the empires of both Germany and Japan, invent much of the modern computer industry, and win approximately a zillion times as many Nobels?

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  2. Our overlords keep telling us, “Fences never work.” Which is why I am building one this weekend to allow my dogs to roam the neighborhood.

    It won’t stop the criminal invaders in my town. They’ll just jump it or go through the gates. However, my bullmastiffs on the other hand might have a thing or two to say. Yes fences by themselves can eventually can be circumvented but a nation that built the Grand Coulee Dam can build and man a border fence.

    Fences give you time and options they give you a secure base to operate from and an area to cover. Multilayered defense like the Israelis build could and does stop actual terrorists every stinking day. I think it can stop most anybody as long as it is manned.

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  3. There must still be people around from the former East Germany who know how to build a fence/wall from the Berlin Wall days. The “Inner German Border” (between E. and W. Germany) was mostly a fence rather than a wall. You need things like automatic machine guns, anti-vehicle ditches, watchtowers (and patrols), etc.

    An effective border fence is not a passive thing – it must be monitored and patrolled constantly at significant expense. It’s not just a fence, it’s a whole system of layered defense. You must also be willing to kill fence crossers in order to discourage future fence crossers – after a while only the most determined/crazy try so you don’t have to actually kill a lot of people, but you do have to be willing to kill a few at the beginning until people get the message. Maybe some of these victims will be sympathetic – cute little kids shot full of lead and left to bleed in the death strip. You have to be willing to see these pictures printed in the papers, on TV, etc. (unless you have the power to control the media). This requires national will. Frankly, the West no longer has that kind of will. One picture of a dead baby (0r maybe a baby deer) shot by the spring guns and they would have to tear the whole thing down. Our crisis is not one of capability or funding – we (for now at least) still have plenty of these things. It is a crisis of will.

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  4. This post and research is just tremendous. Cabinet-level work here.

    Obviously, the US will build a huge, classy fence that will leave the world in awe.

    Airbus, Germany, the Saudis, the Chinese will be copying the US fence for decades to come.

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  5. The govt sabotaged District Attorney Garrison’s investigation.

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  6. “You must also be willing to kill fence crossers in order to discourage future fence crossers…”

    WTF? Uh, no you don’t. You catch them. You fingerprint them and take other data. Then you return them to the other side with the stern rebuke that if they’re caught again they’ll go to jail for five years.

    As part of border security a fence is only a second tier solution. Interior enforcement – denying illegals jobs, drivers licenses, vehicle registrations, public education, and other government benefits is far more important. And many of those things are well within our grasp, as we already have a very large and quite effective administrative state.

    To get my kid into the local school, for example, I have to show multiple documents to prove we live within school boundaries. I have to show them every single school year. Having those bureaucrats require verification of citizenship wouldn’t take much more of their time.

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  7. I hope the next US fence is not so hackable.

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  8. How can you lie about something and be ignorant about the same thing simultaneously? When you say “ignorant”, do you mean unknowing or displaying a general unsophistication about a particular issue? If it is the latter, then I suppose your concluding remark may be correct.

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  9. Jebito Bush says it is not Conservative to protect our country’s borders and US citizens and it costs too much.
    How much do we pay in welfare costs for illegal immigrants? 100 times more than a fence costs!

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  10. OT, but it now appears that the parents of those drowned Syrian boys had not actually applied for asylum in Canada. This is important because it not only changes the narrative a bit, but also because Canada is now in the middle of an election in which the government’s refusal to admit large numbers of refugees has been targeted by the opposition left.

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  11. To get my kid into the local school, for example, I have to show multiple documents to prove we live within school boundaries. I have to show them every single school year. Having those bureaucrats require verification of citizenship wouldn’t take much more of their time.
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    The whole point of Anarcho-Tyranny is that illegals have to do none of that. Cops don’t arrest them or cite them for non-felonies, as the illegals will not appear in court and won’t pay traffic fines. Thus citizens must have insurance, registration, drivers license, and cannot drive drunk but illegals need none of the former and can and do drive drunk without serious repercussions.

    Rest assured illegal aliens need show no documents to prove they live in school boundaries. And this is by design. BLM is all about extending the privileges found by illegals to Blacks in matters of police encounters. It is as unsurprising as the turn of the calendar, and motivated by a desire however unspoken to have superior if not matching privileges over Whitey found among illegal aliens.

    And of course this whole Anarcho-Tyranny is just more of the eternal GoodWhite war on BadWhites.
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    As for shooting people or not, it depends on the size of the people wanting to cross, the composition (how many are young men, and how many old people, middle aged, kids), and desperation of the crowds. Looking at the video and pictures of the Hungarian situation and the crossers at Macedonia’s border, I’d say at this point shooting a whole lot of people is required to stop the masses pushing onward.

    Most if not nearly all of the crowds are young men eager for a fight. Most view the European police as weak and easily beaten, compared to ISIS or Assad’s men. Most are filled with the fervor of Jihad, if you look closely. Most are there to conquer what they view as easily conquered, soft, decadent, weak, and RICH Europeans. And they’ve seen others succeed by pressing, violence, threats, etc.

    The situation six months ago would have been amenable to more peaceful measures. But let us be realistic, that is not the case now and it will take some considerable deaths to prevent the mass of refugees from simply overwhelming border guards who are limited in number, powers, and scope. Border Police are not Superman or Green Lantern, they lack power rings capable of scooping up masses of people who outnumber them 500-1 and are made up of angry, Muslim, would-be-conquering young men.

    TL:DR — the goal line stand is always harder and more desperate than a three and out series back at the twenty yard line.

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  12. Using the cost of Israel’s border fence with Egypt, I estimate a similar fence on our southern border would cost about $5.3 billion.

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  13. A bit tired Steve? ‘Perfectly good?’ and ‘renowned’.

    And didn’t you say that you had to take a break? :) You are addicted and I think what we are seeing is what is known in dog training as an extinction burst. Of course, thankfully you don’t quit.

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  14. So Airbus also builds fences?!?!

    You learn something new everyday.

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  15. WTF have you never worked anywhere with a fence? You take them into custody then send them back. Assuming they pass the first barrier or try to fuck with it. Who the fuck shoots somebody trying to cross the fence absent danger of bodily harm? I guess if they aim an RPG at it.

    You are aware people are stopped by fences every day and if there’s anyone at all and any depth at all to the system you’ll catch 90% or better. You do have to be willing to go grab them and you do need to build a fence that actually works but that is trivial. We went to the fucking moon. We built the interstate highway system. I think that’s a tad bigger and more complicated than a fence. We build Grand Coulee Dam, Hoover Dam, Chief Joseph Dam, the locks on the fucking Panama Canal. A canal with two separate cement sides and locks big fucking complicated mechanical deals that hold back water while pumps raise and or lower it with a vessel with people inside. They seem to be working ok after a century or so.

    Once we build the fence it will become prohibitively expensive for most corn farmers from Chiapas or Guatemala to get across so they will quit. Once we start deporting they will deport themselves. It was done with Operation Wetback and it can be done again.

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  16. An equivalent length US fence, though, would only cost $12.1 billion based on what the Saudis paid.

    Twelve billion for a real barrier between the US and Mexico is a bargain. You could easily come up with the funds. I believe Israel gets $3 billion per year in direct cash. Egypt gets a similar amount. Keeping one year’s subsidies would free up about half the cost right there. Two years would pay for it.

    You could also put an aircraft carrier or two on the chopping block. We are going to spend about $9 billion per carrier for the new Ford class carriers. The USS Ford has already been built and will be commissioned in 2016. But the other two could still be stopped. They just laid down the keel of the new USS JFK last month. The are going to begin construction on the USS Enterprise in 2018. Take out those two ships and you get more than enough funds to build the wall. And we all should now realize that an extra carrier or two isn’t doing squat to protect OUR borders. So why do we need to add more?

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  17. Or not. Who the fuck cares if it is ‘classy’? You want classy go to finishing school. You want to build a fence? At many prisons the prisoners have to build it. You catch somebody instead of holding them in detention centers or catch and release like we do now you put them to work building the fence.

    They could take into custody hundreds of thousands a year. If they are all here to ‘get a job’ well we’ve got one for them. Plus three hots and a cot. When the fence is built they can leave. South.

    I am willing to bet you’ll have fewer and fewer every year if you do it that way. No money to send home so ‘Slim’ can skim billions a year. No state benefits. Three hots and a cot. Can’t work? Too sick, injured? ER care and an ambulance ride to Mexico. You want to bring your family you dumb fuck we told you you would be building a fence. Now their deported and you’re still building the fence. Now you’re wife is working to support them while you break your back busting rocks and stringing razor wire (which is really hazardous by the way).

    Make it dirty make it nasty and make it tall, broad, and layered defense. If everyone from Hungary to the Saudis can build one I think America can manage.

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  18. Fence is defense.

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    As heart rending as those photos of that drowned boy are – and apparently the photos are strong enough for David Cameron to tear-up, overnight, his much vaunted immigration policy, (incidentally Cameron couldn’t give a shit about old and ugly British disability claimants who have apparently died in their thousands due to the hard-hearted policies he champions), it *MUST* be admitted that that Syrian boy in question, and his family, were * perfectly safe from all threats of death and persecution whilst living in Turkey, which would keep them indefinitely*

    From that Syrian family’s point of view, the only problem with Turkey is that it doesn’t offer the same standard of material living as Germany.
    Sorry, but this isn’t what the 1951 UN Refugee Convention is supposed to be all about.

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  20. The one guy who has brought this back to the forefront of national attention is a good (I think) builder.

    And he likes building classy things. He says this himself. Often.

    I’d guess folks will take a classy fence over the alternative, which seems to be open arms — an act of love.

    I was kinda joking about his adjectives though.

    I do hope he hires Steve to consult for him during the design process, however.

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  21. Using the cost of Israel’s border fence with Egypt, I estimate a similar fence on our southern border would cost about $5.3 billion.

    It’s a bargain at triple the price. Plus all 2,000 miles of the Mexican border don’t need an intensively patrolled fence. Half of it does though this will need to be expanded as Mexican criminal organizations find their old routes blocked off-fenced off.

    Key principles of Israeli fence building are:
    -see through fencing so you can see infiltrators coming
    -parallel patrol road for immediate armed response to intrusions
    -remote sensors and cameras
    -countless miles of razor wire to slow down intruders
    -they do erect walls in urban areas but 90% of the West Bank security barrier is a patrolled see-through fence

    Donald Trump always calls it a wall but the best barrier on the Mexican border would copy the Israeli and Saudi fences. They have shown the way. Just bring in the best Israeli and Saudi/Airbus consultants and start building within a month or two.
    Similar to the way Trump got the Wolman skating rink in Central park rebuilt in three months (1986) after NYC wasted five years and millions of dollars. Trump went to the foremost builder of outdoor skating rinks in Canada and hired them to build the correct size refrigeration units (two of them) and to supervise the proper laying of coolant pipe and concrete.

    http://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2015/07/06/trump-death-wish-the-wollman-rink-and-the-white-house/

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  22. A fence would cost less per mile in the USA than Saudi. They get soaked and pay top dollar for everything (except for the Asian slave labor).

    They don’t mind, just a way of getting the best quality and making friends.

    Like a rich guy who buys a $250,000 sports car he can’t competently drive and goes 100mph faster than he will ever drive it.

    They buy a lot of those too.

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  23. “Ignorant” in American English means unknowing, it doesn’t mean “rude” as it does in Canada. See how ignorant Canadian content laws have made you?

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  24. Für die verkackten Saudis bauen wir so eine Grenzsicherung, bei uns verkündet Merkel derweil Türen und Tore auf, aller Abschaum der Welt ist willkommen, in jeder beliebigen Menge. Eine Grenzsicherung findet nicht mehr statt, wer kommt der bleibt und kostet im Monat 2500€ dem dt. Steuerzahler.

    For the fucking Saudi monarchy we build a border fence, while back home Merkel (chancellor) has opened all windows and doors for muslim and gypsy mass migration. “All the scum on Earth, you are welcome”. No traces of a guarded border left, who comes stays forever (against all laws) and cost’s 2.500€ per month (the mentaly normal German tax payers, not many are left, are celebrating the 1.2 Million who allready have come since 2014).

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  25. Israel gets the vast majority of its US aid in US-built waeponry, not cash.

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  26. Disagree that you have to shoot people. I do agree with you that we no longer have the stomach for this thing. One dead Syrian boy has caused Cameron to make a U turn.

    It also makes Hungary more interesting to watch. Will they forcibly herd women & children into trains that are destined to camps in full view of the hostile media? The Nazi references will reach stratosphere proportions.

    I’m not sure even the most determined right wing leader could withstand the international backlash. Maybe right wingers in other parts of the West should head to the streets in support of the Hungarian PM? He’s going to need some cover if he continues to flout Merkel.

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  27. Will they forcibly herd women & children into trains that are destined to camps in full view of the hostile media? The Nazi references will reach stratosphere proportions.

    They could keep pointing out that the Israelis have detention camps that serve the same purpose.

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  28. Yes, if the NDP wins the US may be looking at two border fences.

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  29. Maybe this is not a heart warming example, but during the 40 years of the Cold War, the Iron Curtain (of which the Berlin Wall was of course a part) was pretty effective in keeping the people of Eastern Europe at home (those who managed to escape were mostly those who have gone to the West for official travel)

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    The GDR barrier was pretty effective so it can be done. Beyond just that though it’s an expression of the will of the populace to safeguard it’s society. Do they, and we, have the gumption to actually do what it takes to make it work?
    Lots of the migrants have drowned, that’s well known. It’s possible that they were just waiting for the opportunity to photograph a sympathetic victim, in this case a child, so as to be able to use it for emotional blackmail. The various leaders have responded on cue, pretending to be moved by the sight. It’s show biz for the masses.

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  31. Who ever thought ‘airbus’ was a good name? The ‘Greyhound in the sky!’.

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  32. I don’t agree w. Whiskey about a lot of things, but in this case he is right. One of the tests of every law should be “is this important enough to kill people over if you have to in order to enforce the law?” For example, in NY , the police ended up killing a Gentle Giant (TM) when they arrested him for selling onesies (single cigarettes) on the street. This shouldn’t have been a crime in the first place (and you should be able to buy a whole pack of cigarettes in a regular store for a buck, which is what they would cost if the government hadn’t gotten involved). But once you make the decision to make this a law, then breaking the law involves law enforcement and sometimes law enforcement ends up killing people who refuse to obey the law. It’s inevitable even if you don’t have killing people as your primary goal.

    Smuggling people across the border (in the US and in Europe) is a multi-billion $ business – almost as big as the drug business (and you have to be able to breach the border in order to smuggle drugs also). The people who are involved in this business are hardened criminals who are willing to kill people, including often their own customers. They are not going away easily. You are going to need to use violence to counter their violence.

    The idea that you can “just arrest them” is not going to work. As Whiskey said, the border police can easily be outnumbered by masses of immigrants. Sure a patrol can arrest one lone crosser but what if 1,000 rush the border all at once? The reason the E. Germans ended up with spring guns is because they knew their own border patrolmen didn’t have the heart to shoot civilians, women, children, etc. Automatic guns don’t care. As I said before, once you install these you really don’t have to kill a lot of people – the total # killed by the E. German system over 30+ years was tiny (esp. compared to the millions that died in WWII – a cold war was much better than a hot war). Anyone in his right mind stays well away from the “death strip” and by the time you have reached that zone you have gone thru razor wire, etc. so you don’t just wander in there by accident.

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  33. Easiest way to “pay” for the fence (apparently the only thing that can’t be paid for with borrowed money). Bring all U.S. troops home from Germany and South Korea. Station them along the border instead. The money you save on keeping them overseas vs. at home would likely pay for the fence in no time. And they’d finally be guarding against an actual threat to American interests.

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  34. Oh the irony of the photos of the drowned boy. First, they were already in a safe country – Turkey. Then the aunt claimed that she had applied for asylum for them in Canada, and that was revealed to be a lie. Now the father states that he is actually more angry at the Arab world for not solving the crisis.

    And suddenly the media narrative surrounding the picture of the dead child begins to unravel.

    And about that picture: are we now supposed to set our political policies based on our emotional reactions to inflammatory pictures? Because I can think of a few more pictures I’d like to see in the press.

    Maybe pictures of every Islamic terrorist in Europe and America that has been caught.

    Pictures of all the dead bodies of the people those terrorists have killed.

    Pictures of Muslims raping Swedish women in Malmo and young English girls in Rotherham.

    Pictures of the jails in Europe with their vastly disproportionate share of Muslims.

    Pictures of the way white people are treated when they go into the Muslim no-go zones in Paris and so many other cities.

    Maybe that’s why the press doesn’t post many of those pictures.

    Why yes, let’s set our immigration policies based on voters’ emotional reactions to a few pictures.

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  35. I favor expelling all illegal immigrants, including the “good” ones, but the fence reminds me of the obese person who gets the lap band to prevent himself from doing what he really wants to do, which he then finds ways to go ahead and do anyway. This problem would be tremendously reduced were all welfare benefits eliminated for illegals. But we’ll get the lap band instead.

    I can see a time in the future, considering the state and evolution of the ruling class, where an effective fence will be necessary to keep people in. You want to leave, you will first pay the tax.

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  36. “Multilayered defense like the Israelis build could and does stop actual terrorists every stinking day. I think it can stop most anybody as long as it is manned.”

    Barriers and obstacles in the military sense are never intended to stop an adversary. Merely slow them down and take casualties. Deter them. But also the military understands barriers and obstacles must be manned and watched.

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  37. “in NY , the police ended up killing a Gentle Giant (TM) when they arrested him for selling onesies (single cigarettes) on the street. This shouldn’t have been a crime in the first place”

    He was not paying the tax on the cigs sold.

    The man was not killed by the cops but died from his own severe morbid obesity and his unwillingness to go along with the cops and paramedics.

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  38. The mean PM of Hungary is no match for girl power!

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  39. “Maybe this is not a heart warming example, but during the 40 years of the Cold War, the Iron Curtain (of which the Berlin Wall was of course a part) was pretty effective in keeping the people of Eastern Europe at home”

    ABOUT 400,000 East German were involved in the border control effort. That is a very significant percentage of the overall population [16,000,000].

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  40. The best that I can tell there hasn’t been a groundswell change of opinion. The comments on the Daily Mail & the NY Times are almost in unison against this madness.

    However what we are seeing is the media and left wing ratchet up the rhetoric. Many of the reports I’ve read are dripping with so much bias, they read like opinion pieces.

    The West, in particular Germany, is determined to atone for WW2 even at the sake of their own survival.

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  41. “Ignorant” carries both of those meanings in Canadian English, and British English, and from many Americans I have known, it also is familiar in both meanings in American English.

    “Ignorant” meaning “unknowing”, I assume, is the older meaning if only based on the etymology.

    Also, Canadian Observer’s comment clearly demonstrates awareness of both meanings. The heart of it is the question posed in the first sentence. If ‘ignorant’ is being used in the sense of ‘unknowing’, then it is impossible to be both ignorant and lying about the same thing at the same time. The accusation of lying, to be accurate, demands that the accused actually know the truth and be saying something untrue. If they are wrong because of ignorance, they are not lying. Just wrong. Even stupid, perhaps, but not lying.

    All of which to say, I don’t see how the “both” conclusion could be true, either. Doesn’t exactly detract from the point of the argument, to be sure. With which I fully agree. I cannot believe any of these people think it cannot be done, so I assume every one of them is lying when they say that.

    But if a fence won’t work, minefields.

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  42. As heart rending as those photos of that drowned boy are – and apparently the photos are strong enough for David Cameron to tear-up, overnight, his much vaunted immigration policy…

    I think you have cause and effect reversed here. Those photos are published to provide an excuse for Cameron to withdraw his phony immigration policy as he intended all along.

    There is no maudlin Cameron, democratically-compelled by weepy public opinion to change course. There is only willing-tool-of-the-oligarchy Cameron, changing course as scheduled while the BBC and the newspapers pump out fake empathy to confuse the citizenry, using the bandwagon effect to make some softheaded citizens argue with the more rational ones while Cameron and his backers run out the back door with the loot.

    It is common– we all do it– to mistake the effusions of the mainstream media for the sentiments of the populace. But the mainstream media (in England as well as the USA) actually disseminate propaganda (e.g., “the Narrative”) prepared by a small elite and elaborated and amplified by a large group of hangers-on.* Partly the politically-correct propaganda line is distributed directly through organs like Journolist, but partly it just travels by imitation. Today’s journalistas are still Harry S Truman’s blackbirds perched on a telephone wire– one flies, they all fly.

    *The hangers-on are comically eager to insist that they are “independent” and that their slavish adherence to the Party line proves it– can’t you see how bravely they defy all those paranoid, racist, sexist, homophobic, white (but I repeat myself) right-wing extremist Bible- and gun-clinging Confederate-flagged haters who lord it over society, sending white policemen to shoot unarmed black bodies in the back and nazi skinheads to drown three-year-olds in the Mediterranean?

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  43. What is the total US taxpayer contribution to them, and the Arabs we pay, to act nice on an annual basis? Could that amount be diverted for a year(s) to fund our Southern fence? Which would be a better use of those funds, securing our border or aid of any type to Israel and Egypt?

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  44. I’ve only ever heard Canadians use “ignorant” the way Americans do. I think even in the UK it is mostly just the working class (ie less educated people) who use it to mean rudeness.

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  45. The US just needs to skim a substantial amount of the remittances sent to Mexico. As Trump said, make Mexico pay for it.

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  46. Or how about a photo of Marilyn Pharis who had her head bashed in with a hammer after being brutally raped by an illegal and an anchor baby.

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  47. The group I mostly see use “ignorant” as a synonym for “something I disagree with” is blacks.

    Re: the headline

    Germans Build Anti-Arab Fence for Arabs, Profits From Fence Deal Taxed to Pay for Settlement of Yet More Arabs

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  48. Make proof of legal residency a necessity for every employee’s wages that the employer wants to be tax-deductible. To be submitted to the IRS along with the 1099.
    That’d stop the hotel chains, meat packers big agra etc.

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  49. Maybe you could get the humvees and trucks back from ISIS to patrol it.

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  50. And “Rude” originally meant Vigorous, as occasionally used in “Rude good health”

    Funny old language.

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  51. “The West, in particular Germany, is determined to atone for WW2 even at the sake of their own survival.”

    Well ain’t that a bit ironical: Germany, to atone for having spent 6 years destroying much of Europe, is dedicated to atoning for its crimes…by destroying much of Europe.

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  52. I love Sailer’s funny jokes. I love his writing. I love this crowd’s sense of humor.

    But we need to do something and not just joke and fret and anticipate ultimate doom.

    Build talking points
    - Pressure non-european nations. I actually admire Hillary Clinton, for at least mentioning that this should be a broader global issue and not just Europe and the US’s problem.
    - I understand the logic that ethnic groups don’t necessarily deserve their own home lands. But why target whites so aggressively and only whites? Why do the other major ethnic groups all get their homelands and full sovereignty undisturbed?
    - Mahatma Gandhi led the anti-colonialism charge, that ethnic groups should have their own land and sovereign governments, and shouldn’t be colonized and subdued for foreign ethnic groups. Why does that apply to everyone except whites?

    “Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French.”

    But now, apparently, England isn’t supposed to belong to the English or the label English should apply to any people who want the benefits of living there and should not be an ethnicity.

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  53. An equivalent length US fence, though, would only cost $12.1 billion based on what the Saudis paid.

    1. In fall 2015, about 50.1 million students will attend public elementary and secondary schools according to the National Center for Educational Statistics.

    2. 6.9% are illegal (Pew). 0.069*50.1M = 3.457m illegal students.

    3. $12,743/pupil spending in US public schools (NCES).

    $12,743*3.457M = is just over $44B. And that’s for one year of illegal immigrant K-12 public schooling.

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  54. An equivalent length US fence, though, would only cost $12.1 billion based on what the Saudis paid.

    1. In fall 2015, about 50.1 million students will attend public elementary and secondary schools according to the National Center for Educational Statistics.

    2. 6.9% are illegal (Pew). 0.069*50.1M = 3.457m illegal students.

    3. $12,743/pupil spending in US public schools (NCES).

    $12,743*3.457M is just over $44B. And that’s for one year of illegal immigrant K-12 public schooling.

    Stupid Establishment Cuckservatives could’ve gotten amnesty if they had just built the fence 10+ years ago. No wonder they always lose.

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  55. The crisis of the will comes out of too many women in positions of influence, especially in the media.
    No woman I know can rationally think about the consequences of a million Arab refugees flooding into your home country. All they think about is that cute baby dying on the beach, and how monstrous men who want to keep out immigrants are.

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  56. An effective border fence is not a passive thing – it must be monitored and patrolled constantly at significant expense. It’s not just a fence, it’s a whole system of layered defense. You must also be willing to kill fence crossers in order to discourage future fence crossers – after a while only the most determined/crazy try so you don’t have to actually kill a lot of people, but you do have to be willing to kill a few at the beginning until people get the message. Maybe some of these victims will be sympathetic – cute little kids shot full of lead and left to bleed in the death strip. You have to be willing to see these pictures printed in the papers, on TV, etc. (unless you have the power to control the media). This requires national will. Frankly, the West no longer has that kind of will. One picture of a dead baby (0r maybe a baby deer) shot by the spring guns and they would have to tear the whole thing down. Our crisis is not one of capability or funding – we (for now at least) still have plenty of these things. It is a crisis of will.

    This is not Germany, and a lot has happened since the Cold War. We could build an almost entirely passive, unmanned wall if we wanted to. Triple fence, with 100′ of minefield between layer 1 and 2, and an access road between layer 2 and 3. Large fields of razor wire outside 1 and 3. Monitor it with cameras, sensors, and drones. Seismic (or whatever) sensors to detect tunneling. Guard dogs along the access road to keep American idiots from reaching the mines. It wouldn’t even be that expensive; mines are very cost-effective (each mine consumed is one less criminal alien to worry about in future).

    It would give the leftist corporate media something to scream about until the end of time.

    Richard Engel

    A very sweet guy, with very sweet tribal loyalties.

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    These are the true rulers of the West. They may not have the immediate power that gov’ts have, but they ultimately control the gov’ts, to a far greater extent than anyone else.

    What’s the word for “rule by leftist corporate media”? It’s probably hard to get a word like that coined and disseminated under rule by leftist corporate media. The slang “media-ocracy” seems to be the best we have so far.

    Demagogocracy? Seems appropriately suggestive.

    Dimosiocracy?

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  57. Last time I looked, the English and the French each had exactly 1 country to their names. How many countries already belong to the Arabs? How well have they done with those countries (not counting the ones with the free gift of oil and even including some of those (Iraq)? Seems kind of greedy to me that the Arabs should be entitled to dozens of countries and can’t bear the loss of even one square inch of their territory, but they are more than willing to take over other countries – sort of a 1 way ratchet toward Dar al Islam. It seems to me that the Arabs have the unique talent (perhaps shared with Africans) that they ruin every country that they occupy, so then they go looking for other countries to ruin.

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    As if Germany was the only actor in WW2. And the push for multiculturalism certainly didn’t start in Germany, look closer to home.
    And right now most other countries in Europe are glad that Germany is dumb enough to take everyone in, so they don’t have to. But yeah, let’s spin another anti-German narrative out of this.

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    Does Germany have birthright citizenship now? I know for a long time it didn’t. Obviously people will be more relaxed about immigration if the immigrants’ children don’t get automatic citizenship and the associated right to vote themselves all kinds of freebies at the expense of the natives.

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  60. So you’re saying we need landmines? I can get behind that.

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  61. Timocracy – it means rule by the virtuous, where virtue was supposed to be wisdom and love for one’s people. Virtue is something completely different nowadays, of course. The word still fits, though I wouldn’t feed today’s virtues to a stray dog.

    So, it’s a timocracy.

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  62. The Turkish guest workers that never went home agitated for citizenship for themselves and their children. They eventually got it, but I think immigrant children need to decide at age 18 what citizenship they will take.

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  63. Issac Herzog (Obama’s guy) has actually called on Israel to accept some Syrian refugees. However, Herzog hasn’t said how many refugees Israel should accept. Herzog’s most likely trying to get Israel some good press in light of last year’s assault on Gaza and the drama over the Iran deal.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/herzog-israel-has-a-duty-to-take-in-syrian-refugees/

    http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Herzog-calls-upon-government-to-allow-Syrian-refugees-into-Israel-415301

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  64. Yes, let me echo #13: “renowned,” not “renown.” Can’t you fix that?

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  65. Isn’t Airbus a French company with a world headquarters in the Netherlands? Maybe someone’s already answered that in the comments?

    The great Mexican wall needs a building and if the Canucks continue to allow themselves to be settled by the Sinosphere in years hence, after the greatening of America becomes a reality, another wall may need to be erected on our northern border.

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