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Los Angeles, with its lovely climate, offers perhaps the the largest single gentrification opportunity of the 21st Century.

Boyle Heights, the old Jewish neighborhood just east of Downtown L.A. that was taken over by Mexicans about a century ago, would be an obvious candidate. But ethnic violence is always a temptation to fight back against gentrifiers. (Oakland, CA, for example, has retarded gentrification via politicized black violence since the days of the Black Panthers.) From The Guardian:

‘Hope everyone pukes on your artisanal treats’: fighting gentrification, LA-style

Hardline tactics succeed in keeping outsiders away from Boyle Heights, the Latino community that is the last holdout to Los Angeles gentrification

Rory Carroll in Los Angeles
@rorycarroll72
Tuesday 19 April 2016 12.00 EDT

A realtor who invited clients to tour the neighbourhood for bargain properties and enjoy “artisanal treats” felt the backlash within hours.

“I can’t help but hope that your 60-minute bike ride is a total disaster and that everyone who eats your artisanal treats pukes immediately,” said one message. “Stay outta my f****** hood,” said another.

Fearing violence, the realtor cancelled the event.

An opera company which tried to stage a performance at the park was drowned out by shouts, whistles and a brass band.

I almost went to that experimental opera. (By the way, the Pacific Opera Project has a few tickets left for Friday and Sunday of their very funny show Mozart vs. Salieri at the main library in lovely South Pasadena.)

Students from across town who attempted an educational walking tour of the area encountered masked activists who shadowed them and ordered them to leave.

Welcome to Boyle Heights – or not, depending on how locals view you.

This hardscrabble Latino community, just across the Los Angeles river from the lofts and skyscrapers of downtown, is waging a vigorous and in many ways effective campaign against gentrification.

Where Brooklyn, San Francisco, Oakland and other parts of LA have yielded to and often embraced moneyed outsiders, Boyle Heights has dug a metaphorical moat.

An eclectic coalition of residents, business owners, feminists, Maoists and other activists stands guard, working the levers of local government, deploying zoning and legal arguments – and occasionally intimidating perceived interlopers.

The goal is to avoid a flood of money and outsiders which it fears would drive up rents, drive out residents and erase a cradle of Chicano identity.

“Gentrification is a violent threat. When we feel it we may react in an angry way, through fear,” said Xochitl Palomera, an activist with the group Corazón Del Pueblo. “Boyle Heights is not going down without a fight. We know what we’re up against and we’re not afraid. Our roots run deep here.”

… Bold words given that developers are investing billions of dollars a five-minute bike ride away in downtown LA, transforming the skyline with gleaming towers and the streets with boutique bars, restaurants, cafes and galleries.

With rents soaring to Manhattan levels, eyes have turned to the community of 92,000 souls packed into six square miles just across the 6th Street bridge.

Known for low-income housing, mom-and-pop stores, taco stands, service workers and mariachis, Boyle Heights may appear ripe for transformation. Most residents rent, and many are poor. Other Latino enclaves in east LA, after all, have morphed into trendy areas where whites now walk their dogs.

Not so Boyle Heights, at least not yet, as some outsiders have discovered to their cost.

Bana Haffar, a realtor with Adaptive Realty in Beverly Boulevard, five miles west, distributed a flyer in May 2014 titled “Why rent downtown when you could own in Boyle Heights?” She invited clients to join her on a bike ride in this “charming, historic, walkable and bikeable neighbourhood”.

Overnight it went viral. Activists organised a protest against the “gentriflyer”.

“I think I was a little naive,” Haffar said last week. “I didn’t know gentrification was such a sensitive topic. Perhaps in retrospect it was not in the best taste. I was pretty shocked at the threatening and violent responses from some people. Some of it was way too much.” Fearing violence, she cancelled the tour.

Last November Hopscotch, an experimental opera performed in limousines and different locations around downtown, tried to stage a segment in Hollenbeck Park, near Boyle Avenue. Critics had raved about the production, a brainchild of the Industry, LA’s premier avant garde opera company.

Protesters in Hollenbeck Park felt otherwise and barracked the performers. “I made efforts to speak to a woman who appeared to be in charge but was always ignored and often shouted over,” recalled Marc Lowenstein, the company’s music director. “Some of the things she said were: ‘This park is for brown people’ and ‘This is not a park for white people. You are white people.’”

Things escalated on the show’s final day when members of the Roosevelt high school band used saxophones, trombones and trumpets to drown out the opera. Performers moved to another side of the bandshell but the high school band followed them, urged on, according to Lowenstein, by activists from a group called Serve the People LA (STPLA).

“I asked our own musicians to play along with the high school players, to engage them. The Serve the People members, though, encouraged the high school players to become physically intimidating and they themselves became physically intimidating.”

The opera fled. “We were all pretty shaken by two things: one, the physical intimidation, and secondly, the use and manipulation of the schoolchildren,” said Lowenstein. …

In general, Southern California doesn’t have a lot of organized leftist muscle in the Oakland style. But Boyle Heights was once Jewish, so it has a certain appeal to romantic Marxists:

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Rebellion is in the area’s DNA. Yiddish-speaking Jewish immigrants with liberal, socialist and communist ideals stamped their identity here before the second world war. Mexican immigrants who followed helped forge the Chicano civil rights movement in the 1960s, a heritage emblazoned in murals around Mariachi Plaza. Posters of Bernie Sanders as Pancho Villa adorn some store windows.

What Southern California now has a lot of, in contrast, are affluent, hard-nosed, 100% white guilt-free immigrants — Armenians, Israelis, Vietnamese, Persians, Russians, Koreans, Uzbekis, Chinese, Arabs, etc. — who don’t see much reason why they should take any guff from Mexicans, who have the numbers but not the money.

So the real estate future of Southern California will, no doubt, be full of interest.

 
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  1. Good grief, this is verging on Middle East-style tribal warfare.

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    • Replies: @anon
    Yes. The irony is the genuinely idealist element who believed breaking down national borders would lead to peace and harmony are sending us right back where we came from - constant clan and tribe scale conflict instead.

    Nationalist wars were a stage people going in the right direction had to go through (imo).
    , @anon
    Not so surprising when you consider a lot of those groups are from the Middle east.
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    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    The black guy who is spending all of his time envisioning some white guy losing it over handling a Tubman bill some years from now has a lively imagination; he also feeds off some pretty obsessive resentments against white people. I wonder what the rest of his life is like.
    , @WJ
    I made the mistake of looking at the link. It is depressing but always enlightening to see the depth of resentment in that community. The seething rage just below the surface is well known by some but completely ignored by others.
    , @dumpstersquirrel
    Totes no probs. I'll use the 50- and 10-spot from now on, even if I have to walk inside my local friendly financial institution.

    No White tears here to tickle you, bra.
    , @ic1000
    I read the anti-white-people best seller by America's Foremost Public Intellectual Genius. Damon Young's article is similarly witty. A derivative work that is pitch-perfect in tone.
  3. “What Southern California now has a lot of, in contrast, are affluent, hard-nosed, 100% white guilt-free immigrants — Armenians, Israelis, Vietnamese, Persians, Russians, Koreans, Uzbekis, Chinese, Arabs, etc.”

    It’s hard to feel White guilt when your ancestors did not even live in America during the 19th Century, when Blacks were still enslaved.

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    • Replies: @Altai

    It’s hard to feel White guilt when your ancestors did not even live in America during the 19th Century, when Blacks were still enslaved.
     
    And yet I'd bet a lot of those people still do feel it. Particularly since whites are expected to feel it for hispanics and even Asians. The magic of white guilt, it even affects Iceland now!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/more-than-11000-icelanders-offer-to-house-syrian-refugees-to-help-european-crisis-10480505.html

    http://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/politics_and_society/2016/01/11/first_syria_refugee_families_to_arrive_next_week/
    , @Stan d Mute

    It’s hard to feel White guilt when your ancestors did not even live in America during the 19th Century, when Blacks were still enslaved.
     
    Speaking for myself, it's also hard to have any white guilt when your ancestors always lived in slave-free states and fought for the Union in the War of Northern Aggression. Guilt? Aw hell no! I demand some gratitude and accolades from these ungrateful swine..
    , @anon
    And yet i bet Swedes who immigrated to America in the 1970s still do - weird huh.
    , @Discard
    My grandfather was in the KKK, and I still feel no guilt.
    , @Eric Novak
    It's impossible to feel white guilt when you or your ancestors immigrated to the US decades after Civil Rights law and the Great Society programs have failed to do anything but empty the pockets of workers to pay for minority dysfunction and to create a self-perpetuating redistribution machine.
  4. When is The Inland Empire going to see gentrification?

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    • Replies: @dumpstersquirrel
    "When is The Inland Empire going to see gentrification?"

    LOL!!!

    Ye olde Inland Armpit will never gentrify, homeboy.
    , @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    Never. Too hot out there in the summer. I live in Orange County but own another house in Riverside County that I rent out. With just one exception, every single one of my tenants in the last 12 years has been from LA originally and driven east by the high cost of living in LA.
  5. The article is basically dishonest with passages like this:

    Other Latino enclaves in east LA, after all, have morphed into trendy areas where whites now walk their dogs.

    No. LA is not SF, DC, Manhattan or Brooklyn, with a rich white population displacing NAMs. In fact, the number of supposed “Latino enclaves in east LA” that have become trendy and white is ZERO. The author is maybe thinking of Silver Lake and Echo Park, the only areas even close to east LA that have gone from hispanic to trendy and white.

    The gentrification happening in LA is the transition of middle class white areas to upper-middle, and upper middle to just plain rich.

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    • Replies: @Ed
    "The gentrification happening in LA is the transition of middle class white areas to upper-middle, and upper middle to just plain rich."

    This is true of "gentrification" in NY too, which I am more familiar with.

    This is an important point, and one which, skimming the rest of the comments, people just don't get.

    People have this image of gentrification meaning some minority, usually Black, and poor neighborhood becoming white and middle class due to middle class whites buying the cheap houses and fixing them up. That may have been true when the trend started in the late 1980s but hasn't been true for at least ten years. But people keep taking up sides around the question "do you want a poor black neighborhood to become white and middle class"?

    In New York, this sort of gentrification stopped dead once you started getting commutes of over 40 minutes to downtown or midtown. Poorer neighborhoods, both white working class, Jewish, guido, black, or whatever beyond this radius are pretty much the same as they always have been. Public housing was left untouched and the residents of public housing was still there.

    What you did get was big increases in rent and property prices in the neighborhoods around the center, so middle class people couldn't afford to live there. Gentrification is about taking middle class neighborhoods and making them wealthy neighborhoods, and has been for some time now.
    , @Discard
    What about the area around the University of Southern California? I've seen blocks of high rise condos and apartments going up along there along Figueroa.
  6. Anti-gentrification is just code for No Whites Allowed.

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    • Replies: @Chicago Girl
    Another item for the inventory of "unbearable whiteness":

    http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35687-the-unbearable-whiteness-of-brunch-fighting-gentrification-in-chicago
  7. But Boyle Heights was once Jewish, so it has a certain appeal to romantic Marxists

    The “activists” pictured seem to be mostly white Mexicans, who themselves have a decent amount of Jewish ancestry, starting with crypto-jewish Spaniards heading to Mexico to avoid the Inquisition in the 1500′s, and a smaller wave escaping Franco and Hitler in the 1930′s.

    Look at some of these photos:

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/19/los-angeles-la-gentrification-resistance-boyle-heights

    Photo 1 has two guys who could be 100% European, three more that look 80% or more European, and only one person who is an obvious mestizo.

    Photo 2: A pale woman who would not look out of place in Russia

    Photo 4: The center of the photo has three people who look like Spanish hipsters

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Photo 2: A pale woman who would not look out of place in Russia"

    That Mexican woman does not look Eastern European Slavic. She looks like a light skin Mestiza or a Harnizo.

    If I saw her on a subway train in Chicago for example, I would not assume she is a Polack. If I saw her in Brighton Beach in New York City, I would not assume she is Russian or Ukrainian.
    , @Flip
    I know a guy who is mostly German and Irish Gentile but with a Chilean Catholic grandmother and his DNA test came back with a significant amount of Jewish ancestry. He figures his grandmother's ancestors must have been conversos.
    , @anon
    a lot of anti gentrification activists are white - the same people who are pro-busing in other circumstances

    they're nuts obviously but basically on every issue they are against whichever side is the lightest skinned
    , @Anonymous
    Those are Mexicans except the two obviously White ones. If you don't know which two then you really don't know what White people look like.
  8. I notice they give Latino a capital L but whites has a lowercase w. When do we get our capital W?

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  9. @Jefferson
    "What Southern California now has a lot of, in contrast, are affluent, hard-nosed, 100% white guilt-free immigrants — Armenians, Israelis, Vietnamese, Persians, Russians, Koreans, Uzbekis, Chinese, Arabs, etc."

    It's hard to feel White guilt when your ancestors did not even live in America during the 19th Century, when Blacks were still enslaved.

    It’s hard to feel White guilt when your ancestors did not even live in America during the 19th Century, when Blacks were still enslaved.

    And yet I’d bet a lot of those people still do feel it. Particularly since whites are expected to feel it for hispanics and even Asians. The magic of white guilt, it even affects Iceland now!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/more-than-11000-icelanders-offer-to-house-syrian-refugees-to-help-european-crisis-10480505.html

    http://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/politics_and_society/2016/01/11/first_syria_refugee_families_to_arrive_next_week/

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    White Guilt might affect Icelanders in Iceland, but, trust me, it doesn't really affect the kind of people who move 8000 miles to Los Angeles.
    , @Brutusale
    I'm a mutt of French, Anglo and Azorean ancestry. I'm sure my forebears were heavily involved in the slave trade, both Asiento and freelance. Funny, I don't feel a whit of guilt.

    Happy Birthday/Deathday, Billy Shakes!
  10. @Lot

    But Boyle Heights was once Jewish, so it has a certain appeal to romantic Marxists
     
    The "activists" pictured seem to be mostly white Mexicans, who themselves have a decent amount of Jewish ancestry, starting with crypto-jewish Spaniards heading to Mexico to avoid the Inquisition in the 1500's, and a smaller wave escaping Franco and Hitler in the 1930's.

    Look at some of these photos:

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/19/los-angeles-la-gentrification-resistance-boyle-heights

    Photo 1 has two guys who could be 100% European, three more that look 80% or more European, and only one person who is an obvious mestizo.

    Photo 2: A pale woman who would not look out of place in Russia

    Photo 4: The center of the photo has three people who look like Spanish hipsters

    “Photo 2: A pale woman who would not look out of place in Russia”

    That Mexican woman does not look Eastern European Slavic. She looks like a light skin Mestiza or a Harnizo.

    If I saw her on a subway train in Chicago for example, I would not assume she is a Polack. If I saw her in Brighton Beach in New York City, I would not assume she is Russian or Ukrainian.

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  11. @Altai

    It’s hard to feel White guilt when your ancestors did not even live in America during the 19th Century, when Blacks were still enslaved.
     
    And yet I'd bet a lot of those people still do feel it. Particularly since whites are expected to feel it for hispanics and even Asians. The magic of white guilt, it even affects Iceland now!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/more-than-11000-icelanders-offer-to-house-syrian-refugees-to-help-european-crisis-10480505.html

    http://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/politics_and_society/2016/01/11/first_syria_refugee_families_to_arrive_next_week/

    White Guilt might affect Icelanders in Iceland, but, trust me, it doesn’t really affect the kind of people who move 8000 miles to Los Angeles.

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "White Guilt might affect Icelanders in Iceland, but, trust me, it doesn’t really affect the kind of people who move 8000 miles to Los Angeles."

    A lot of immigrant groups are extremely cheap, so it's harder for Black Social Justice Warriors to extort money from them.
    , @Anonymous Nephew
    Iceland is SWPL heaven, full of SWPL people. With a population of only 300,000, it would be quite noticeable if 11,000 'refugees' turned up, even more so if that was 11,000 families or (more likely) 11,000 young men, as they would constitute an appreciable percentage of the 15-30 male demographic. It would certainly be "interesting".
  12. @Emblematic
    I notice they give Latino a capital L but whites has a lowercase w. When do we get our capital W?

    2000-2008

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  13. @Steve Sailer
    White Guilt might affect Icelanders in Iceland, but, trust me, it doesn't really affect the kind of people who move 8000 miles to Los Angeles.

    “White Guilt might affect Icelanders in Iceland, but, trust me, it doesn’t really affect the kind of people who move 8000 miles to Los Angeles.”

    A lot of immigrant groups are extremely cheap, so it’s harder for Black Social Justice Warriors to extort money from them.

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  14. One of the many things I’m naive about is gentrification. I just don’t understand the outrage. Maybe I should re-read that interview with Spike Lee about it.

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    • Replies: @Psmith
    Gosh, it's not every day that you see this sort of atomistic libertarian sentiment in the comments here!

    Joking aside, I imagine that their objections roughly parallel the feelings of native Austinites (or Coloradoans, Oregonians, etc.) about Californians, or the feelings of Steve's generation of white Californians about Mexicans, or the feelings of Vancouverites about wealthy Chinese. Be it ever so humble, this place is ours, and you newcomers (who are going to change it in predictable ways) aren't us.
    , @dumpstersquirrel
    "One of the many things I’m naive about is gentrification. I just don’t understand the outrage. Maybe I should re-read that interview with Spike Lee about it."

    Outrage over gentrification is jealousy masquerading as civic pride. Black neighborhoods look like they lost a war and decided to never rebuild. Buildings are vacant, in disrepair, covered in graffilthy. Grown men wander the streets half-drunk all day long. A disaster.

    THEN Whites move in, buy up the properties, and turn what was once a hellhole into a vibrant and thriving community that other Whites flock to. Blacks are violently jealous of the things White people build.
    , @Blake
    First, it is worth noting that residents of neighborhoods where people complain about gentrification are generally renters, so instead of seeing their home values go up, they see their rents go up. Second, I am going to point to a column by Megan McArdle called Why Gentrification Matters (http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-30/why-gentrification-matters). She states poor households build connections (I watch your kids today, you watch my kids later) to deal with a lack of money, things that get broken up when people are forced to move due to high rents or eviction.
  15. The language of the article is absolutely amazing. One could almost see the points where a different adjective could be inserted if the article had been about White people.

    An eclectic coalition of residents, business owners, feminists, Maoists

    Maoists LMAO. Try this: a disturbing and reprehensible coterie of nativists, exploiters, patriarchists and Francoists. Who whom indeed.

    The goal is to avoid a flood of money and outsiders which it fears would drive up rents, drive out residents and erase a cradle of Chicano identity.

    Meanwhile, cradles of various European identities have been actively thrown to the dogs.

    “Gentrification is a violent threat. When we feel it we may react in an angry way, through fear,”

    The Latinx cries out in pain and fear as it strikes you.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I literally laughed out loud (llol'd) at that last line. You are definitely one of the most humorous posters on Unz.
    , @anon
    Yes, it's literally the exact opposite tack that would be taken (and was taken) when it was the other way round.
  16. In Fear The Walking Dead, they portray middle class Los Angeles neighborhoods as being extremely racially mixed to the point where no racial group is in the majority, everybody is a minority. They portray a Los Angeles where there is not much racial segregation, at least not among the middle class.

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    • Replies: @Romanian
    So the point of the show is to make us welcome the zombie horde?
  17. @Lot

    But Boyle Heights was once Jewish, so it has a certain appeal to romantic Marxists
     
    The "activists" pictured seem to be mostly white Mexicans, who themselves have a decent amount of Jewish ancestry, starting with crypto-jewish Spaniards heading to Mexico to avoid the Inquisition in the 1500's, and a smaller wave escaping Franco and Hitler in the 1930's.

    Look at some of these photos:

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/19/los-angeles-la-gentrification-resistance-boyle-heights

    Photo 1 has two guys who could be 100% European, three more that look 80% or more European, and only one person who is an obvious mestizo.

    Photo 2: A pale woman who would not look out of place in Russia

    Photo 4: The center of the photo has three people who look like Spanish hipsters

    I know a guy who is mostly German and Irish Gentile but with a Chilean Catholic grandmother and his DNA test came back with a significant amount of Jewish ancestry. He figures his grandmother’s ancestors must have been conversos.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    I'm not sure how well Spanish Sephardic DNA can be found in common DNA tests. 23andme only gives you Ashkenazi. A lot of Ashkenazi, however, went to Latin America, especially the leftist sorts, and they tended to merge into the upper class quickly.

    Same for really all groups of Europeans who immigrated to Latin America in the first half of the 20th century being heavy on secular leftists. So my guess is your friend's grandmother was partly Ashkenazi.

    The conversos from the 1400's who stayed in Spain are now likely completely blended into the Spanish population, with only small variations by region.

    In 1530, however, you might have had 20% of the Spanish going to Latin America be conversos who themselves averaged 50% Sephardic ancestry, while Spanish men who did not immigrate might have been only 2% on average.
    , @anon
    There's a lot of Atlantic Creole in Latin America.

    Atlantic Creole were mixed Jewish and African from the original sugar plantations on the Portuguese owned islands along the West coast of Africa.

    , @5371
    Those tests are fraudulent, and the ethnically specific nature of the fraud is no accident.
  18. How long does the period of feeling guilty have to be before we can finally move on?

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    • Replies: @fish
    Until the money runs out......or never!
    , @anon
    never - it's genetic

    before the white guilt scam it was original sin
  19. @Jefferson
    "What Southern California now has a lot of, in contrast, are affluent, hard-nosed, 100% white guilt-free immigrants — Armenians, Israelis, Vietnamese, Persians, Russians, Koreans, Uzbekis, Chinese, Arabs, etc."

    It's hard to feel White guilt when your ancestors did not even live in America during the 19th Century, when Blacks were still enslaved.

    It’s hard to feel White guilt when your ancestors did not even live in America during the 19th Century, when Blacks were still enslaved.

    Speaking for myself, it’s also hard to have any white guilt when your ancestors always lived in slave-free states and fought for the Union in the War of Northern Aggression. Guilt? Aw hell no! I demand some gratitude and accolades from these ungrateful swine..

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    • Replies: @anon
    You say that but you sound like you do *feel* guilty but don't *think* you ought to - which is different.

    The guilt is genetic - what people feel guilty about is decided by the dominant culture.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson

    I demand some gratitude and accolades from these ungrateful swine
     
    Good luck with that.

    There has been nothing comparable in human history, but gratitude doesn't help the leftists. Envy and covetousness does, and so even the enormous sacrifice of blood and treasure that was the American Civil War does not count. Instead, it is just re-purposed, to further the Marxist narrative.

    There is a reason Hillary sold her soul. It is the necessary 'union card' to play with the left.
  20. “An eclectic coalition of residents, business owners, feminists, Maoists and other activists stands guard, working the levers of local government, deploying zoning and legal arguments – and occasionally intimidating perceived interlopers.”

    In London a bunch of anarchist types calling themselves Class War have tried for years to disrupt gentrification in Hackney and Dalston. Failed dismally. Terraced houses there go for over a million dollars and are filling up with the children of the wealthy, though there’s still plenty of vibrancy.

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  21. @Steve Sailer
    White Guilt might affect Icelanders in Iceland, but, trust me, it doesn't really affect the kind of people who move 8000 miles to Los Angeles.

    Iceland is SWPL heaven, full of SWPL people. With a population of only 300,000, it would be quite noticeable if 11,000 ‘refugees’ turned up, even more so if that was 11,000 families or (more likely) 11,000 young men, as they would constitute an appreciable percentage of the 15-30 male demographic. It would certainly be “interesting”.

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Iceland is SWPL heaven, full of SWPL people. With a population of only 300,000, it would be quite noticeable if 11,000 ‘refugees’ turned up, even more so if that was 11,000 families or (more likely) 11,000 young men, as they would constitute an appreciable percentage of the 15-30 male demographic. It would certainly be “interesting”.

    It's crazy that Snoop Dogg's hometown of Long Beach has a larger population than Iceland. Icelandic couples really do hate having children.

  22. “Gentrification is a violent threat. When we feel it we may react in an angry way, through fear,”

    Yep. Unbridled immigration undermining your quality of life is a bitch. Get used to it, you no-dad-havin’, droppin’-out-of-11th grade’n, berry-pick-refusin’, marx-leg-humpin’ pendejo’s.

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  23. It’s always amazes how officially-designated victim groups don’t have to obey the civil rights laws and laws against ethnic intimidation.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Leftists aren't really shy about their desire for explicitly anti-white policies. Colorblindness = white supremacy, or something.

    I can't help but wonder what MLK Jr would say if he were still here. Was he just playing whites? Was his call for a color-blind America just a foot-in-the-door technique to establish black/"POC" supremacy?

    What's clear now is that few blacks or fellow ethnic minorities want to be judged by the contents of their characters, for obvious reasons.
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    I’ve been conditioned to believe that white flight was bad.

    But how can that possibly be squared with gentrification also is bad?

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    • Replies: @2Mintzin1
    Mr. OK?, you've got to get your mind right. Holding two thoughts in your mind which are in direct contradiction to one another, and believing them both to be true, is a hallmark of the SJW.
    , @anon
    easy - white people are bad so whatever white people are currently doing is bad and if they stop and do something else then the new thing is bad and the old thing isn't bad any more unlees they start doing it again.
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    It’s somewhat difficult to work up sympathy for these types of white people who I somehow suspect are mostly Obama voters. Let the reality of their minority pets sink in good and hard.

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  26. @Tiny Duck
    http://verysmartbrothas.com/harriet-tubman-on-the-20-just-might-be-the-most-elaborate-troll-for-white-tears-ever/

    The black guy who is spending all of his time envisioning some white guy losing it over handling a Tubman bill some years from now has a lively imagination; he also feeds off some pretty obsessive resentments against white people. I wonder what the rest of his life is like.

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    • Replies: @Oldevirginian
    Im a middle aged white southerner descended from slave owners. Ive never objected to eating aunt jemima pancakes and syrup out of packages with her likeness nor uncle bens rice. Why would i object to a unit of devaluated debt note that is now worth perhaps 1/500th its nominal value during mrs tubmans lifetime being festooned with her likeness? If she did what is attributed to her she deserves recognition. Why put such tools as us presidents on the monopoly money anyway? Harriet had far more integrity than recent incumbents ive no doubt.
    , @Romanian
    It's his commenters that have me worried!
  27. The Latinos in this LA neighborhood who are resisting gentrification are acting like white people opposing blockbusting some decades ago: maybe worse. That will be the way to portray gentrification, if you want it to succeed.

    The fact is, wealth, and the economic, social and political power that it represents, are what ultimately determines what happens. Inclusive ideologies simply maintain the safety nets, which is fine as far as it goes. The poor have rights and certainly a right to some dignity, but they don’t determine what happens with real estate. Just ask the people who built Dodger Stadium.

    The main thing to keep in mind is that the people who are constantly promoting SJW and the moral tingles that go with it are basically powerless in economic terms. Yes, they can intimidate people into silence and make the public square so PC that it becomes uninhabitable, but they aren’t creating any value.

    I keep wondering how long this is going to go on.

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    • Replies: @JEGG
    PC may continue to dominate much of what happens in the US until life gets so hard for those who promote PC that they get hit over the head by reality.
  28. @EriK
    One of the many things I'm naive about is gentrification. I just don't understand the outrage. Maybe I should re-read that interview with Spike Lee about it.

    Gosh, it’s not every day that you see this sort of atomistic libertarian sentiment in the comments here!

    Joking aside, I imagine that their objections roughly parallel the feelings of native Austinites (or Coloradoans, Oregonians, etc.) about Californians, or the feelings of Steve’s generation of white Californians about Mexicans, or the feelings of Vancouverites about wealthy Chinese. Be it ever so humble, this place is ours, and you newcomers (who are going to change it in predictable ways) aren’t us.

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    Joking aside, I imagine that their objections roughly parallel the feelings of native Austinites (or Coloradoans, Oregonians, etc.) about Californians, or the feelings of Steve’s generation of white Californians about Mexicans, or the feelings of Vancouverites about wealthy Chinese. Be it ever so humble, this place is ours, and you newcomers (who are going to change it in predictable ways) aren’t us.
     
    I think that's about right. Frankly, I admire these folks for trying to keep their neighborhood their own. Good for them for standing up for their own interests.

    They're going to lose, of course. They don't own the property, and the people who do probably don't live in the neighborhood. The owners will be happy to sell to gentrifiers, reverse-blockbusters, gangsters, or aliens from Mars for that matter if they can get a good price.

    On the other hand, if the Boylistas are forced out, where are they going to go? It seems to me that the citizens of the rest of LA are far better off leaving things as they are than dispersing the current residents to "diversify" other neighborhoods. Maybe some sort of government subsidy is in order to keep Boyle Heights as Chicanoland. Or perhaps Disney would be interested ...
  29. @Tiny Duck
    http://verysmartbrothas.com/harriet-tubman-on-the-20-just-might-be-the-most-elaborate-troll-for-white-tears-ever/

    I made the mistake of looking at the link. It is depressing but always enlightening to see the depth of resentment in that community. The seething rage just below the surface is well known by some but completely ignored by others.

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    >>>I made the mistake of looking at the link. It is depressing but always enlightening to see the depth of resentment in that community. The seething rage just below the surface is well known by some but completely ignored by others.

    In their similar conflicts with blacks the younger cohort of latinos have made good on their threats and followed through with murderous violence on several occasions. The first white people moving into those neighborhoods will be among the lucky if they get away with only receiving hard stares, curses and vandalized cars.
  30. ” Armenians, Israelis, Vietnamese, Persians, Russians, Koreans, Uzbekis, Chinese, Arabs, etc.”

    A person of Uzbekistan is called an Uzbek, not an Uzbeki.
    Country Demonym
    Uzbekistan Uzbek
    Tajikistan Tajik
    Vulcan five-letter name ending in K
    Afghanistan Afghan (“afghani” is a unit of currency)

    See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonym
    This message has been brought to you by Pedants R Us.

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  31. I’d love to see ex-Soviet types, Iranians, etc. push out the whiny Aztecs

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    • Replies: @Romanian
    They'll still blame it on Whitey. There will be no self-conscious realization of the hypocrisy.
  32. Other Latino enclaves in east LA, after all, have morphed into trendy areas where whites now walk their dogs.

    Methinks the overall score — square miles that have gone from mostly white to mostly Latino over the last generation — is still heavily in the Latinos’ favor.

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  33. I’ve noticed how powerless SJWs are. I watched an SJW video called A Place at the Table, narrated by Jeff Bridges. The film didn’t offer any solutions. One single mother thought her food insecurity problems would end when she got a job with a SJW agency. She was hysterical when she realized her low wage SJW job decreased her government benefits and meant she was still food insecure.

    A rural Colorado family was profiled. A SJW program at the school was sending the daughter home with junk food. No one mentioned to the family that they could grow a garden on their land. The family also had several animals including a horse that they were feeding.

    Regarding gentrification, Hispanics are the second largest ethnic group attending University of California schools, behind Asians. The educated youth from neighborhoods like Boyle Heights will leave to secure professional jobs. Are the neighborhoods to be reserved for Hispanic immigrants over American citizens?

    the Roosevelt high school band used saxophones, trombones and trumpets to drown out the opera.

    Former LA Clippers owner and billionaire Donald Sterling is a graduate of Roosevelt High.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR

    No one mentioned to the family that they could grow a garden on their land.
     
    Why would SJWs suggest anything that might increase self-sufficiency and decrease reliance on the system?
  34. @SPMoore8
    The Latinos in this LA neighborhood who are resisting gentrification are acting like white people opposing blockbusting some decades ago: maybe worse. That will be the way to portray gentrification, if you want it to succeed.

    The fact is, wealth, and the economic, social and political power that it represents, are what ultimately determines what happens. Inclusive ideologies simply maintain the safety nets, which is fine as far as it goes. The poor have rights and certainly a right to some dignity, but they don't determine what happens with real estate. Just ask the people who built Dodger Stadium.

    The main thing to keep in mind is that the people who are constantly promoting SJW and the moral tingles that go with it are basically powerless in economic terms. Yes, they can intimidate people into silence and make the public square so PC that it becomes uninhabitable, but they aren't creating any value.

    I keep wondering how long this is going to go on.

    PC may continue to dominate much of what happens in the US until life gets so hard for those who promote PC that they get hit over the head by reality.

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    “Things” do not seem to change in east Los Angeles (at least in a period of 70!!!!!! years), particularly the area around what used to be named Boyle Heights Blvd, what used to be called Pico Gardens, and Hollenbeck Park.

    I was born into an address on Gless Street that no longer exists! In those days the area was at least 60% latino (99% Mexican), and I guarantee you that I am not latino (born with blond hair and blue eyes!). The same (lack of) intellectual stupidities that were exhibited by the inhabitants of that area 65 years ago are still being enunciated today!! The only difference is that today there are many more who are infected with the diseases of “chicano power”/so-called white guilt/etc.

    I retain a photograph of myself taken when I was about 3 years old drinking from a 6 oz Coke bottle while sitting on the grass in Hollenbeck Park, in case there is any proponent of “chicano power” who wants to state that I have no business being in that “geography”. If anybody has first priority to moving into that area (God forbid that I should be compelled to do so though!!!!!!!!!!), it is I!!!!!

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  36. “Boyle Heights” . Not a vibrant name. I figure they locals would have renamed it by now, but that would have driven the gentrified even wilder with desire.

    Or maybe they want to keep that old name cachet for when they do start selling out.

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  37. @SPMoore8
    The black guy who is spending all of his time envisioning some white guy losing it over handling a Tubman bill some years from now has a lively imagination; he also feeds off some pretty obsessive resentments against white people. I wonder what the rest of his life is like.

    Im a middle aged white southerner descended from slave owners. Ive never objected to eating aunt jemima pancakes and syrup out of packages with her likeness nor uncle bens rice. Why would i object to a unit of devaluated debt note that is now worth perhaps 1/500th its nominal value during mrs tubmans lifetime being festooned with her likeness? If she did what is attributed to her she deserves recognition. Why put such tools as us presidents on the monopoly money anyway? Harriet had far more integrity than recent incumbents ive no doubt.

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    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Realistically, it is totally meaningless to me who is on my money, although I understand there are a lot of people who are upset. I think the real issue is that, in order to put Tubman on the money, it was necessary to tear down Andrew Jackson, and using Indian Removal to do it was extremely shabby. I say this as someone part of whose roots go back to the Old South, also have a slaveowning ancestor, and also intimately associated with the tribes who were Removed.
    , @Discard
    It's not the money, it's the open admission that we are to be replaced. It's like re-naming cities by the victors. St Petersburg became Leningrad. The SJWs are Soviet to the bone.
  38. @Psmith
    Gosh, it's not every day that you see this sort of atomistic libertarian sentiment in the comments here!

    Joking aside, I imagine that their objections roughly parallel the feelings of native Austinites (or Coloradoans, Oregonians, etc.) about Californians, or the feelings of Steve's generation of white Californians about Mexicans, or the feelings of Vancouverites about wealthy Chinese. Be it ever so humble, this place is ours, and you newcomers (who are going to change it in predictable ways) aren't us.

    Joking aside, I imagine that their objections roughly parallel the feelings of native Austinites (or Coloradoans, Oregonians, etc.) about Californians, or the feelings of Steve’s generation of white Californians about Mexicans, or the feelings of Vancouverites about wealthy Chinese. Be it ever so humble, this place is ours, and you newcomers (who are going to change it in predictable ways) aren’t us.

    I think that’s about right. Frankly, I admire these folks for trying to keep their neighborhood their own. Good for them for standing up for their own interests.

    They’re going to lose, of course. They don’t own the property, and the people who do probably don’t live in the neighborhood. The owners will be happy to sell to gentrifiers, reverse-blockbusters, gangsters, or aliens from Mars for that matter if they can get a good price.

    On the other hand, if the Boylistas are forced out, where are they going to go? It seems to me that the citizens of the rest of LA are far better off leaving things as they are than dispersing the current residents to “diversify” other neighborhoods. Maybe some sort of government subsidy is in order to keep Boyle Heights as Chicanoland. Or perhaps Disney would be interested …

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    Frankly, I admire these folks for trying to keep their neighborhood their own. Good for them for standing up for their own interests.
     
    Broadly, I agree.

    if the Boylistas are forced out, where are they going to go?
     
    Inland Empire would be my guess. Angelenos proper won't have much to worry about.

    Mind, things will get mighty interesting if the reservoirs dry up and San Bernardino County runs out of water.

  39. @Lot
    The article is basically dishonest with passages like this:

    Other Latino enclaves in east LA, after all, have morphed into trendy areas where whites now walk their dogs.
     
    No. LA is not SF, DC, Manhattan or Brooklyn, with a rich white population displacing NAMs. In fact, the number of supposed "Latino enclaves in east LA" that have become trendy and white is ZERO. The author is maybe thinking of Silver Lake and Echo Park, the only areas even close to east LA that have gone from hispanic to trendy and white.

    The gentrification happening in LA is the transition of middle class white areas to upper-middle, and upper middle to just plain rich.

    “The gentrification happening in LA is the transition of middle class white areas to upper-middle, and upper middle to just plain rich.”

    This is true of “gentrification” in NY too, which I am more familiar with.

    This is an important point, and one which, skimming the rest of the comments, people just don’t get.

    People have this image of gentrification meaning some minority, usually Black, and poor neighborhood becoming white and middle class due to middle class whites buying the cheap houses and fixing them up. That may have been true when the trend started in the late 1980s but hasn’t been true for at least ten years. But people keep taking up sides around the question “do you want a poor black neighborhood to become white and middle class”?

    In New York, this sort of gentrification stopped dead once you started getting commutes of over 40 minutes to downtown or midtown. Poorer neighborhoods, both white working class, Jewish, guido, black, or whatever beyond this radius are pretty much the same as they always have been. Public housing was left untouched and the residents of public housing was still there.

    What you did get was big increases in rent and property prices in the neighborhoods around the center, so middle class people couldn’t afford to live there. Gentrification is about taking middle class neighborhoods and making them wealthy neighborhoods, and has been for some time now.

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  40. @Mike Zwick
    How long does the period of feeling guilty have to be before we can finally move on?

    Until the money runs out……or never!

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  41. @Tiny Duck
    http://verysmartbrothas.com/harriet-tubman-on-the-20-just-might-be-the-most-elaborate-troll-for-white-tears-ever/

    Totes no probs. I’ll use the 50- and 10-spot from now on, even if I have to walk inside my local friendly financial institution.

    No White tears here to tickle you, bra.

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  42. @Jefferson
    When is The Inland Empire going to see gentrification?

    “When is The Inland Empire going to see gentrification?”

    LOL!!!

    Ye olde Inland Armpit will never gentrify, homeboy.

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  43. @EriK
    One of the many things I'm naive about is gentrification. I just don't understand the outrage. Maybe I should re-read that interview with Spike Lee about it.

    “One of the many things I’m naive about is gentrification. I just don’t understand the outrage. Maybe I should re-read that interview with Spike Lee about it.”

    Outrage over gentrification is jealousy masquerading as civic pride. Black neighborhoods look like they lost a war and decided to never rebuild. Buildings are vacant, in disrepair, covered in graffilthy. Grown men wander the streets half-drunk all day long. A disaster.

    THEN Whites move in, buy up the properties, and turn what was once a hellhole into a vibrant and thriving community that other Whites flock to. Blacks are violently jealous of the things White people build.

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  44. @Jefferson
    In Fear The Walking Dead, they portray middle class Los Angeles neighborhoods as being extremely racially mixed to the point where no racial group is in the majority, everybody is a minority. They portray a Los Angeles where there is not much racial segregation, at least not among the middle class.

    So the point of the show is to make us welcome the zombie horde?

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  45. @SPMoore8
    The black guy who is spending all of his time envisioning some white guy losing it over handling a Tubman bill some years from now has a lively imagination; he also feeds off some pretty obsessive resentments against white people. I wonder what the rest of his life is like.

    It’s his commenters that have me worried!

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  46. @Marcus
    I'd love to see ex-Soviet types, Iranians, etc. push out the whiny Aztecs

    They’ll still blame it on Whitey. There will be no self-conscious realization of the hypocrisy.

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  47. @Jefferson
    When is The Inland Empire going to see gentrification?

    Never. Too hot out there in the summer. I live in Orange County but own another house in Riverside County that I rent out. With just one exception, every single one of my tenants in the last 12 years has been from LA originally and driven east by the high cost of living in LA.

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    • Replies: @Hrw-500
    Will Detroit might see a chance of gentrification before the Inland Empire?
  48. @Romanian
    The language of the article is absolutely amazing. One could almost see the points where a different adjective could be inserted if the article had been about White people.


    An eclectic coalition of residents, business owners, feminists, Maoists
     
    Maoists LMAO. Try this: a disturbing and reprehensible coterie of nativists, exploiters, patriarchists and Francoists. Who whom indeed.


    The goal is to avoid a flood of money and outsiders which it fears would drive up rents, drive out residents and erase a cradle of Chicano identity.
     
    Meanwhile, cradles of various European identities have been actively thrown to the dogs.

    “Gentrification is a violent threat. When we feel it we may react in an angry way, through fear,”
     
    The Latinx cries out in pain and fear as it strikes you.

    I literally laughed out loud (llol’d) at that last line. You are definitely one of the most humorous posters on Unz.

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  49. @fnn
    It's always amazes how officially-designated victim groups don't have to obey the civil rights laws and laws against ethnic intimidation.

    Leftists aren’t really shy about their desire for explicitly anti-white policies. Colorblindness = white supremacy, or something.

    I can’t help but wonder what MLK Jr would say if he were still here. Was he just playing whites? Was his call for a color-blind America just a foot-in-the-door technique to establish black/”POC” supremacy?

    What’s clear now is that few blacks or fellow ethnic minorities want to be judged by the contents of their characters, for obvious reasons.

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  50. @Anonymous Nephew
    Iceland is SWPL heaven, full of SWPL people. With a population of only 300,000, it would be quite noticeable if 11,000 'refugees' turned up, even more so if that was 11,000 families or (more likely) 11,000 young men, as they would constitute an appreciable percentage of the 15-30 male demographic. It would certainly be "interesting".

    “Iceland is SWPL heaven, full of SWPL people. With a population of only 300,000, it would be quite noticeable if 11,000 ‘refugees’ turned up, even more so if that was 11,000 families or (more likely) 11,000 young men, as they would constitute an appreciable percentage of the 15-30 male demographic. It would certainly be “interesting”.

    It’s crazy that Snoop Dogg’s hometown of Long Beach has a larger population than Iceland. Icelandic couples really do hate having children.

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    It’s crazy that Snoop Dogg’s hometown of Long Beach has a larger population than Iceland. Icelandic couples really do hate having children.
     
    Iceland has a pretty good fertility rate and age for mothers. Socially there is pressure to have children when you are young, even to the point that people accept a high rate of first marriage divorce. It's just not been historically the most productive place in terms of food supply. There aren't a lot of good places to farm and thus build towns. Famine was quite common.
  51. I don’t think that I would be biking in that neighborhood. A few months ago my fire station was part of an operation to extricate the bodies from a vehicle that had crashed and lodged itself into an old house. The victims, hispanics themselves, were not from the area and had the nerve to eat lunch at a park in the neighborhood. Upon leaving they were tailed and then fired upon while driving down the street. If I remember correctly three were in the vehicle, two died, one being pregnant.

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  52. @Triumph104
    I've noticed how powerless SJWs are. I watched an SJW video called A Place at the Table, narrated by Jeff Bridges. The film didn't offer any solutions. One single mother thought her food insecurity problems would end when she got a job with a SJW agency. She was hysterical when she realized her low wage SJW job decreased her government benefits and meant she was still food insecure.

    A rural Colorado family was profiled. A SJW program at the school was sending the daughter home with junk food. No one mentioned to the family that they could grow a garden on their land. The family also had several animals including a horse that they were feeding.

    Regarding gentrification, Hispanics are the second largest ethnic group attending University of California schools, behind Asians. The educated youth from neighborhoods like Boyle Heights will leave to secure professional jobs. Are the neighborhoods to be reserved for Hispanic immigrants over American citizens?

    the Roosevelt high school band used saxophones, trombones and trumpets to drown out the opera.
     
    Former LA Clippers owner and billionaire Donald Sterling is a graduate of Roosevelt High.

    No one mentioned to the family that they could grow a garden on their land.

    Why would SJWs suggest anything that might increase self-sufficiency and decrease reliance on the system?

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  53. “Oakland, CA, for example, has retarded gentrification via politicized black violence since the days of the Black Panthers”

    Oakland is gentrifying now very quickly

    http://www.governing.com/gov-data/oakland-gentrification-maps-demographic-data.html

    http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/2015/12/21/oakland-ascends-to-nations-4th-most-expensive-rental-market/

    In addition to the white gentrification the poorer areas are becoming less black and more Asian and Hispanic. I think Oakland is one of the most diverse populations in the US

    West Oakland in particular is just a 12 minute BART ride to downtown SF. What it does not have going for it though is it largely industrial

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  54. @WJ
    I made the mistake of looking at the link. It is depressing but always enlightening to see the depth of resentment in that community. The seething rage just below the surface is well known by some but completely ignored by others.

    >>>I made the mistake of looking at the link. It is depressing but always enlightening to see the depth of resentment in that community. The seething rage just below the surface is well known by some but completely ignored by others.

    In their similar conflicts with blacks the younger cohort of latinos have made good on their threats and followed through with murderous violence on several occasions. The first white people moving into those neighborhoods will be among the lucky if they get away with only receiving hard stares, curses and vandalized cars.

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  55. Try Anaheim instead. There has been a lot of building in Anaheim lately, condos and such. Still a lot of gangs and bad schools but the OC doesn’t mine getting rid of some Latinos than the LA area. Granted, there will probably be an affordable housing pushed since Disneyland wants a lot of low paying service jobs in the area but the Colony in Anaheim is popular with some whites since it is the area where most of the older housing is.

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    Anaheim has got real trouble in its future. They have recently switched from city council members chosen at large to council districts of equal population, with illegals and other non-voters counted. La Raza will be demanding a bigger cut of all that money from Disneyland, Angels Stadium, and the Duck Pond.
  56. @Anonymous
    I've been conditioned to believe that white flight was bad.

    But how can that possibly be squared with gentrification also is bad?

    Mr. OK?, you’ve got to get your mind right. Holding two thoughts in your mind which are in direct contradiction to one another, and believing them both to be true, is a hallmark of the SJW.

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  57. It’s odd that the Jewish history of Boyle Heights is mentioned here without mentioning the most salient point to this article: the displacement of the Jewish population by the Latino one (the last synagogue in the neighborhood is a historical monument, but has been vacant for 20 years).

    One thing that this article doesn’t address, but that is relevant in the history of California urban land battles (both figurative and sometimes literal), is the distinction between US-born Latinos and past immigrants (mostly from Mexico or of Mexican descent), and newer ones (sometimes Mexican, but also often from other countries, mostly in Central America), and also to whom exactly cultural gestures like Marxism, Chicanismo, etc., appeal to (mostly either the old or college educated). Boyle Heights and East LA generally are the cultural center of an older generation, one that defined the Chicano movement of the 1970s and on, but a lot of the Latino population that’s moved in since (and have, for example, displaced blacks out of South Central) have been more recent arrivals, who don’t naturally share or identify with these 30-40 year old political movements.

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    Displacement of the Jewish population?! In my neck of the woods, it was the Jewish population selling out neighborhoods to the minority community. These areas are now being gentrified, returning to the state they were in 50 years ago.
  58. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @IHTG
    Good grief, this is verging on Middle East-style tribal warfare.

    Yes. The irony is the genuinely idealist element who believed breaking down national borders would lead to peace and harmony are sending us right back where we came from – constant clan and tribe scale conflict instead.

    Nationalist wars were a stage people going in the right direction had to go through (imo).

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  59. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jefferson
    "What Southern California now has a lot of, in contrast, are affluent, hard-nosed, 100% white guilt-free immigrants — Armenians, Israelis, Vietnamese, Persians, Russians, Koreans, Uzbekis, Chinese, Arabs, etc."

    It's hard to feel White guilt when your ancestors did not even live in America during the 19th Century, when Blacks were still enslaved.

    And yet i bet Swedes who immigrated to America in the 1970s still do – weird huh.

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  60. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Lot

    But Boyle Heights was once Jewish, so it has a certain appeal to romantic Marxists
     
    The "activists" pictured seem to be mostly white Mexicans, who themselves have a decent amount of Jewish ancestry, starting with crypto-jewish Spaniards heading to Mexico to avoid the Inquisition in the 1500's, and a smaller wave escaping Franco and Hitler in the 1930's.

    Look at some of these photos:

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/19/los-angeles-la-gentrification-resistance-boyle-heights

    Photo 1 has two guys who could be 100% European, three more that look 80% or more European, and only one person who is an obvious mestizo.

    Photo 2: A pale woman who would not look out of place in Russia

    Photo 4: The center of the photo has three people who look like Spanish hipsters

    a lot of anti gentrification activists are white – the same people who are pro-busing in other circumstances

    they’re nuts obviously but basically on every issue they are against whichever side is the lightest skinned

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    @Romanian
    The language of the article is absolutely amazing. One could almost see the points where a different adjective could be inserted if the article had been about White people.


    An eclectic coalition of residents, business owners, feminists, Maoists
     
    Maoists LMAO. Try this: a disturbing and reprehensible coterie of nativists, exploiters, patriarchists and Francoists. Who whom indeed.


    The goal is to avoid a flood of money and outsiders which it fears would drive up rents, drive out residents and erase a cradle of Chicano identity.
     
    Meanwhile, cradles of various European identities have been actively thrown to the dogs.

    “Gentrification is a violent threat. When we feel it we may react in an angry way, through fear,”
     
    The Latinx cries out in pain and fear as it strikes you.

    Yes, it’s literally the exact opposite tack that would be taken (and was taken) when it was the other way round.

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  62. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Mike Zwick
    How long does the period of feeling guilty have to be before we can finally move on?

    never – it’s genetic

    before the white guilt scam it was original sin

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  63. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Stan d Mute

    It’s hard to feel White guilt when your ancestors did not even live in America during the 19th Century, when Blacks were still enslaved.
     
    Speaking for myself, it's also hard to have any white guilt when your ancestors always lived in slave-free states and fought for the Union in the War of Northern Aggression. Guilt? Aw hell no! I demand some gratitude and accolades from these ungrateful swine..

    You say that but you sound like you do *feel* guilty but don’t *think* you ought to – which is different.

    The guilt is genetic – what people feel guilty about is decided by the dominant culture.

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  64. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anonymous
    I've been conditioned to believe that white flight was bad.

    But how can that possibly be squared with gentrification also is bad?

    easy – white people are bad so whatever white people are currently doing is bad and if they stop and do something else then the new thing is bad and the old thing isn’t bad any more unlees they start doing it again.

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  65. @Oldevirginian
    Im a middle aged white southerner descended from slave owners. Ive never objected to eating aunt jemima pancakes and syrup out of packages with her likeness nor uncle bens rice. Why would i object to a unit of devaluated debt note that is now worth perhaps 1/500th its nominal value during mrs tubmans lifetime being festooned with her likeness? If she did what is attributed to her she deserves recognition. Why put such tools as us presidents on the monopoly money anyway? Harriet had far more integrity than recent incumbents ive no doubt.

    Realistically, it is totally meaningless to me who is on my money, although I understand there are a lot of people who are upset. I think the real issue is that, in order to put Tubman on the money, it was necessary to tear down Andrew Jackson, and using Indian Removal to do it was extremely shabby. I say this as someone part of whose roots go back to the Old South, also have a slaveowning ancestor, and also intimately associated with the tribes who were Removed.

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  66. @Flip
    I know a guy who is mostly German and Irish Gentile but with a Chilean Catholic grandmother and his DNA test came back with a significant amount of Jewish ancestry. He figures his grandmother's ancestors must have been conversos.

    I’m not sure how well Spanish Sephardic DNA can be found in common DNA tests. 23andme only gives you Ashkenazi. A lot of Ashkenazi, however, went to Latin America, especially the leftist sorts, and they tended to merge into the upper class quickly.

    Same for really all groups of Europeans who immigrated to Latin America in the first half of the 20th century being heavy on secular leftists. So my guess is your friend’s grandmother was partly Ashkenazi.

    The conversos from the 1400′s who stayed in Spain are now likely completely blended into the Spanish population, with only small variations by region.

    In 1530, however, you might have had 20% of the Spanish going to Latin America be conversos who themselves averaged 50% Sephardic ancestry, while Spanish men who did not immigrate might have been only 2% on average.

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    "I’m not sure how well Spanish Sephardic DNA can be found in common DNA tests. 23andme only gives you Ashkenazi. A lot of Ashkenazi, however, went to Latin America, especially the leftist sorts, and they tended to merge into the upper class quickly.

    Same for really all groups of Europeans who immigrated to Latin America in the first half of the 20th century being heavy on secular leftists. So my guess is your friend’s grandmother was partly Ashkenazi.

    The conversos from the 1400′s who stayed in Spain are now likely completely blended into the Spanish population, with only small variations by region.

    In 1530, however, you might have had 20% of the Spanish going to Latin America be conversos who themselves averaged 50% Sephardic ancestry, while Spanish men who did not immigrate might have been only 2% on average."

    According to 23AndMe, I am 1/16 Jewish. Hidden Jewish ancestry is more common in Southern Europeans than it is in Northern Europeans.
  67. @Tiny Duck
    http://verysmartbrothas.com/harriet-tubman-on-the-20-just-might-be-the-most-elaborate-troll-for-white-tears-ever/

    I read the anti-white-people best seller by America’s Foremost Public Intellectual Genius. Damon Young’s article is similarly witty. A derivative work that is pitch-perfect in tone.

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  68. @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    Never. Too hot out there in the summer. I live in Orange County but own another house in Riverside County that I rent out. With just one exception, every single one of my tenants in the last 12 years has been from LA originally and driven east by the high cost of living in LA.

    Will Detroit might see a chance of gentrification before the Inland Empire?

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    • Replies: @Psmith
    My guess: yes. Inland Empire's viability is contingent on continued water availability, although I guess there's that aquifer under the golf course that our host likes to mention. Detroit, not so much.

    I wouldn't mind seeing San Bernardino County secede to Arizona. More in common culturally and geographically, and they'd (we'd--not that I spent very long there) get on pretty well with Arizona gun laws.
  69. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @IHTG
    Good grief, this is verging on Middle East-style tribal warfare.

    Not so surprising when you consider a lot of those groups are from the Middle east.

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  70. @Lot
    I'm not sure how well Spanish Sephardic DNA can be found in common DNA tests. 23andme only gives you Ashkenazi. A lot of Ashkenazi, however, went to Latin America, especially the leftist sorts, and they tended to merge into the upper class quickly.

    Same for really all groups of Europeans who immigrated to Latin America in the first half of the 20th century being heavy on secular leftists. So my guess is your friend's grandmother was partly Ashkenazi.

    The conversos from the 1400's who stayed in Spain are now likely completely blended into the Spanish population, with only small variations by region.

    In 1530, however, you might have had 20% of the Spanish going to Latin America be conversos who themselves averaged 50% Sephardic ancestry, while Spanish men who did not immigrate might have been only 2% on average.

    “I’m not sure how well Spanish Sephardic DNA can be found in common DNA tests. 23andme only gives you Ashkenazi. A lot of Ashkenazi, however, went to Latin America, especially the leftist sorts, and they tended to merge into the upper class quickly.

    Same for really all groups of Europeans who immigrated to Latin America in the first half of the 20th century being heavy on secular leftists. So my guess is your friend’s grandmother was partly Ashkenazi.

    The conversos from the 1400′s who stayed in Spain are now likely completely blended into the Spanish population, with only small variations by region.

    In 1530, however, you might have had 20% of the Spanish going to Latin America be conversos who themselves averaged 50% Sephardic ancestry, while Spanish men who did not immigrate might have been only 2% on average.”

    According to 23AndMe, I am 1/16 Jewish. Hidden Jewish ancestry is more common in Southern Europeans than it is in Northern Europeans.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It is not possible to exclude that what the test you took is picking up is Italian admixture among Jews and assigning it to the Jewish category. There is stronger and stronger population genetic evidence of that admixture among Ashkenazi Jews.
  71. When I was a yuppie in San Francisco back in the 80′s, I lived in the Castro for about two years. Me and two other straight guys had a flat in “Noe Valley” until that dissolved and we went our separate ways. My take away from being the only straight household on the block was that we weren’t liked and we weren’t welcome. Some of it was the fact that gays are just as prejudiced as the rest of us, only their hate is direct at straight white men. The worst was the men (the lesbians all lived over the hill in Hayes Valley) who went to the SF specifically so they could be openly gay. We where a constant reminder that there was a wider world inhabited mostly by “breeders” and our mere presence reminded them of the shame that they felt in whatever little corner of middle America they left. The Castro is a ghetto.

    On a related note, I remember picking up a copy of the local rag, the SF Bay Guardian if I remember correctly. It is a typical left wing dreck but like every other newspaper, it had an obituary that covered they gay community. Like every other obit, it sad who they were, when they were born, who their family and lovers were, AND WHERE THEY WERE BORN. Not a single one was born in SF (3rd, 4th, 5th … generation San Franciscans’ are quite proud of it and now few). Gays had pushed out the normal Irish who grew up there until the 1960′s and now claimed it as their own. I knew one guy who would now be about 55 who said he could remember when there was only on gay bar in the Castro. How times change.

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    • Replies: @Marty
    I occasionally went to the Castro as a 10 year-old in 1967. Directly across the street from the Castro Theater was a place where kids would race slot cars, six to the track, for 25¢/hr. I wonder if there was a single gay bat at the time.
  72. @Stan d Mute

    It’s hard to feel White guilt when your ancestors did not even live in America during the 19th Century, when Blacks were still enslaved.
     
    Speaking for myself, it's also hard to have any white guilt when your ancestors always lived in slave-free states and fought for the Union in the War of Northern Aggression. Guilt? Aw hell no! I demand some gratitude and accolades from these ungrateful swine..

    I demand some gratitude and accolades from these ungrateful swine

    Good luck with that.

    There has been nothing comparable in human history, but gratitude doesn’t help the leftists. Envy and covetousness does, and so even the enormous sacrifice of blood and treasure that was the American Civil War does not count. Instead, it is just re-purposed, to further the Marxist narrative.

    There is a reason Hillary sold her soul. It is the necessary ‘union card’ to play with the left.

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  73. “Protesters in Hollenbeck Park felt otherwise and barracked the performers.”

    Interesting use of the word “barracked.” Never seen it deployed via such a community-organizer-ish connotation. Perhaps it’s time to stigmatize this word like “niggardly.” Remember the government employee in DC who got chastized for using that word correctly?

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  74. @SteveO

    Joking aside, I imagine that their objections roughly parallel the feelings of native Austinites (or Coloradoans, Oregonians, etc.) about Californians, or the feelings of Steve’s generation of white Californians about Mexicans, or the feelings of Vancouverites about wealthy Chinese. Be it ever so humble, this place is ours, and you newcomers (who are going to change it in predictable ways) aren’t us.
     
    I think that's about right. Frankly, I admire these folks for trying to keep their neighborhood their own. Good for them for standing up for their own interests.

    They're going to lose, of course. They don't own the property, and the people who do probably don't live in the neighborhood. The owners will be happy to sell to gentrifiers, reverse-blockbusters, gangsters, or aliens from Mars for that matter if they can get a good price.

    On the other hand, if the Boylistas are forced out, where are they going to go? It seems to me that the citizens of the rest of LA are far better off leaving things as they are than dispersing the current residents to "diversify" other neighborhoods. Maybe some sort of government subsidy is in order to keep Boyle Heights as Chicanoland. Or perhaps Disney would be interested ...

    Frankly, I admire these folks for trying to keep their neighborhood their own. Good for them for standing up for their own interests.

    Broadly, I agree.

    if the Boylistas are forced out, where are they going to go?

    Inland Empire would be my guess. Angelenos proper won’t have much to worry about.

    Mind, things will get mighty interesting if the reservoirs dry up and San Bernardino County runs out of water.

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    • Replies: @Discard
    The Blacks in San Berdoo will not be happy to hear that. The Mexicans ran them out of Watts and Compton. Maybe it's back to Alabama for them.
  75. @Hrw-500
    Will Detroit might see a chance of gentrification before the Inland Empire?

    My guess: yes. Inland Empire’s viability is contingent on continued water availability, although I guess there’s that aquifer under the golf course that our host likes to mention. Detroit, not so much.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing San Bernardino County secede to Arizona. More in common culturally and geographically, and they’d (we’d–not that I spent very long there) get on pretty well with Arizona gun laws.

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  76. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Flip
    I know a guy who is mostly German and Irish Gentile but with a Chilean Catholic grandmother and his DNA test came back with a significant amount of Jewish ancestry. He figures his grandmother's ancestors must have been conversos.

    There’s a lot of Atlantic Creole in Latin America.

    Atlantic Creole were mixed Jewish and African from the original sugar plantations on the Portuguese owned islands along the West coast of Africa.

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  77. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Gentrification of east l.a. and other areas inland is problematic because the air quality is degraded.

    It’s not as bad as the bad old days but it’s not healthy air today either. Not healthy at all long term.

    There is no good solution for the fresh air on the coast vs. the unfresh air inland in many parts of socal.

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  78. @Flip
    I know a guy who is mostly German and Irish Gentile but with a Chilean Catholic grandmother and his DNA test came back with a significant amount of Jewish ancestry. He figures his grandmother's ancestors must have been conversos.

    Those tests are fraudulent, and the ethnically specific nature of the fraud is no accident.

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  79. @Jefferson
    "What Southern California now has a lot of, in contrast, are affluent, hard-nosed, 100% white guilt-free immigrants — Armenians, Israelis, Vietnamese, Persians, Russians, Koreans, Uzbekis, Chinese, Arabs, etc."

    It's hard to feel White guilt when your ancestors did not even live in America during the 19th Century, when Blacks were still enslaved.

    My grandfather was in the KKK, and I still feel no guilt.

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  80. @Lot
    The article is basically dishonest with passages like this:

    Other Latino enclaves in east LA, after all, have morphed into trendy areas where whites now walk their dogs.
     
    No. LA is not SF, DC, Manhattan or Brooklyn, with a rich white population displacing NAMs. In fact, the number of supposed "Latino enclaves in east LA" that have become trendy and white is ZERO. The author is maybe thinking of Silver Lake and Echo Park, the only areas even close to east LA that have gone from hispanic to trendy and white.

    The gentrification happening in LA is the transition of middle class white areas to upper-middle, and upper middle to just plain rich.

    What about the area around the University of Southern California? I’ve seen blocks of high rise condos and apartments going up along there along Figueroa.

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  81. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    >Armenians, Israelis, Vietnamese, Persians, Russians, Koreans, Uzbekis, Chinese, Arabs, etc. — who don’t see much reason why they should take any guff from Mexicans, who have the numbers but not the money.

    It doesn’t matter if Mexicans don’t have the money because Los Angeles is becoming more segregated. Mexicans want to live in Mexican neighborhoods and all of those groups want to live with people like themselves, not others.

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Mexicans want to live in Mexican neighborhoods"

    Than they should move back to Mexico.
  82. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Lot

    But Boyle Heights was once Jewish, so it has a certain appeal to romantic Marxists
     
    The "activists" pictured seem to be mostly white Mexicans, who themselves have a decent amount of Jewish ancestry, starting with crypto-jewish Spaniards heading to Mexico to avoid the Inquisition in the 1500's, and a smaller wave escaping Franco and Hitler in the 1930's.

    Look at some of these photos:

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/19/los-angeles-la-gentrification-resistance-boyle-heights

    Photo 1 has two guys who could be 100% European, three more that look 80% or more European, and only one person who is an obvious mestizo.

    Photo 2: A pale woman who would not look out of place in Russia

    Photo 4: The center of the photo has three people who look like Spanish hipsters

    Those are Mexicans except the two obviously White ones. If you don’t know which two then you really don’t know what White people look like.

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  83. @Oldevirginian
    Im a middle aged white southerner descended from slave owners. Ive never objected to eating aunt jemima pancakes and syrup out of packages with her likeness nor uncle bens rice. Why would i object to a unit of devaluated debt note that is now worth perhaps 1/500th its nominal value during mrs tubmans lifetime being festooned with her likeness? If she did what is attributed to her she deserves recognition. Why put such tools as us presidents on the monopoly money anyway? Harriet had far more integrity than recent incumbents ive no doubt.

    It’s not the money, it’s the open admission that we are to be replaced. It’s like re-naming cities by the victors. St Petersburg became Leningrad. The SJWs are Soviet to the bone.

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  84. @cynthia curran
    Try Anaheim instead. There has been a lot of building in Anaheim lately, condos and such. Still a lot of gangs and bad schools but the OC doesn't mine getting rid of some Latinos than the LA area. Granted, there will probably be an affordable housing pushed since Disneyland wants a lot of low paying service jobs in the area but the Colony in Anaheim is popular with some whites since it is the area where most of the older housing is.

    Anaheim has got real trouble in its future. They have recently switched from city council members chosen at large to council districts of equal population, with illegals and other non-voters counted. La Raza will be demanding a bigger cut of all that money from Disneyland, Angels Stadium, and the Duck Pond.

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  85. @Psmith

    Frankly, I admire these folks for trying to keep their neighborhood their own. Good for them for standing up for their own interests.
     
    Broadly, I agree.

    if the Boylistas are forced out, where are they going to go?
     
    Inland Empire would be my guess. Angelenos proper won't have much to worry about.

    Mind, things will get mighty interesting if the reservoirs dry up and San Bernardino County runs out of water.

    The Blacks in San Berdoo will not be happy to hear that. The Mexicans ran them out of Watts and Compton. Maybe it’s back to Alabama for them.

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  86. “Some of the things she said were: ‘This park is for brown people’ and ‘This is not a park for white people. You are white people.’”

    They might have low IQs, but they have a good feel for tribal reality. Will Whites ever get it?

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  87. @Jefferson
    "Iceland is SWPL heaven, full of SWPL people. With a population of only 300,000, it would be quite noticeable if 11,000 ‘refugees’ turned up, even more so if that was 11,000 families or (more likely) 11,000 young men, as they would constitute an appreciable percentage of the 15-30 male demographic. It would certainly be “interesting”.

    It's crazy that Snoop Dogg's hometown of Long Beach has a larger population than Iceland. Icelandic couples really do hate having children.

    It’s crazy that Snoop Dogg’s hometown of Long Beach has a larger population than Iceland. Icelandic couples really do hate having children.

    Iceland has a pretty good fertility rate and age for mothers. Socially there is pressure to have children when you are young, even to the point that people accept a high rate of first marriage divorce. It’s just not been historically the most productive place in terms of food supply. There aren’t a lot of good places to farm and thus build towns. Famine was quite common.

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  88. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Mexicans are professional minorities; low education, very little money and dependent on a welfare state. Once Trump is elected most will self deport the rest will be sent back to Vicente Fox for rework.
    GO TRUMP 1776/2016

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  89. I can’t help but notice the parallels between anti-gentrification sentiment and anti-immigrant sentiment. Instead of “diversity,” I think we should start calling it “cultural gentrification.” And “immigration” should be “the gentrification of white people.”

    After all, the same people are behind both forces.

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  90. Marty [AKA "coot veal or cot deal"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Prof. Woland
    When I was a yuppie in San Francisco back in the 80's, I lived in the Castro for about two years. Me and two other straight guys had a flat in "Noe Valley" until that dissolved and we went our separate ways. My take away from being the only straight household on the block was that we weren't liked and we weren't welcome. Some of it was the fact that gays are just as prejudiced as the rest of us, only their hate is direct at straight white men. The worst was the men (the lesbians all lived over the hill in Hayes Valley) who went to the SF specifically so they could be openly gay. We where a constant reminder that there was a wider world inhabited mostly by "breeders" and our mere presence reminded them of the shame that they felt in whatever little corner of middle America they left. The Castro is a ghetto.

    On a related note, I remember picking up a copy of the local rag, the SF Bay Guardian if I remember correctly. It is a typical left wing dreck but like every other newspaper, it had an obituary that covered they gay community. Like every other obit, it sad who they were, when they were born, who their family and lovers were, AND WHERE THEY WERE BORN. Not a single one was born in SF (3rd, 4th, 5th ... generation San Franciscans' are quite proud of it and now few). Gays had pushed out the normal Irish who grew up there until the 1960's and now claimed it as their own. I knew one guy who would now be about 55 who said he could remember when there was only on gay bar in the Castro. How times change.

    I occasionally went to the Castro as a 10 year-old in 1967. Directly across the street from the Castro Theater was a place where kids would race slot cars, six to the track, for 25¢/hr. I wonder if there was a single gay bat at the time.

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  91. The current mayor of Los Angeles is a White guy, but Eric Garcetti strongly plays the I am a Nonwhite Person Of Color card just like Elizabeth Warren. Flight from White.

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    • Replies: @Discard
    I believe that Eric Garcetti is the son of a long time Los Angeles politician. He has called himself a "kosher burrito". He does surely love the I'm-not-really-White-so-vote-for-me schtick.
  92. @Discard
    The Blacks in San Berdoo will not be happy to hear that. The Mexicans ran them out of Watts and Compton. Maybe it's back to Alabama for them.

    Midnight train to Georgia?

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  93. @Jefferson
    "What Southern California now has a lot of, in contrast, are affluent, hard-nosed, 100% white guilt-free immigrants — Armenians, Israelis, Vietnamese, Persians, Russians, Koreans, Uzbekis, Chinese, Arabs, etc."

    It's hard to feel White guilt when your ancestors did not even live in America during the 19th Century, when Blacks were still enslaved.

    It’s impossible to feel white guilt when you or your ancestors immigrated to the US decades after Civil Rights law and the Great Society programs have failed to do anything but empty the pockets of workers to pay for minority dysfunction and to create a self-perpetuating redistribution machine.

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  94. @Anonymous
    >Armenians, Israelis, Vietnamese, Persians, Russians, Koreans, Uzbekis, Chinese, Arabs, etc. — who don’t see much reason why they should take any guff from Mexicans, who have the numbers but not the money.


    It doesn't matter if Mexicans don't have the money because Los Angeles is becoming more segregated. Mexicans want to live in Mexican neighborhoods and all of those groups want to live with people like themselves, not others.

    “Mexicans want to live in Mexican neighborhoods”

    Than they should move back to Mexico.

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  95. @EriK
    One of the many things I'm naive about is gentrification. I just don't understand the outrage. Maybe I should re-read that interview with Spike Lee about it.

    First, it is worth noting that residents of neighborhoods where people complain about gentrification are generally renters, so instead of seeing their home values go up, they see their rents go up. Second, I am going to point to a column by Megan McArdle called Why Gentrification Matters (http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-30/why-gentrification-matters). She states poor households build connections (I watch your kids today, you watch my kids later) to deal with a lack of money, things that get broken up when people are forced to move due to high rents or eviction.

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  96. There’s been several murders of Asians by Latinos in S LA and the OC, worse most of the Latinos are renters or waaay upside down on their house and way overhead.

    The city of Bell CA is 87 % renter.

    Trying to evict these people will be impossible, I’m thinking they’re thinking “sub-prime program to rent controlled house forever” is their living plan, and Kamala Harris’ too.

    Nearly all the sub-prime banker settlements didn’t go to those burned investors but for bailouts for the liar loan fraudster speculators that bought homes requiring 400% higher incomes than they had.

    Then there’s the drug cartel unlimited income aspects to Mexican invasion, many are rolling in cash.

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  97. @Jefferson
    The current mayor of Los Angeles is a White guy, but Eric Garcetti strongly plays the I am a Nonwhite Person Of Color card just like Elizabeth Warren. Flight from White.

    I believe that Eric Garcetti is the son of a long time Los Angeles politician. He has called himself a “kosher burrito”. He does surely love the I’m-not-really-White-so-vote-for-me schtick.

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  98. @Altai

    It’s hard to feel White guilt when your ancestors did not even live in America during the 19th Century, when Blacks were still enslaved.
     
    And yet I'd bet a lot of those people still do feel it. Particularly since whites are expected to feel it for hispanics and even Asians. The magic of white guilt, it even affects Iceland now!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/more-than-11000-icelanders-offer-to-house-syrian-refugees-to-help-european-crisis-10480505.html

    http://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/politics_and_society/2016/01/11/first_syria_refugee_families_to_arrive_next_week/

    I’m a mutt of French, Anglo and Azorean ancestry. I’m sure my forebears were heavily involved in the slave trade, both Asiento and freelance. Funny, I don’t feel a whit of guilt.

    Happy Birthday/Deathday, Billy Shakes!

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  99. @Thomas
    It's odd that the Jewish history of Boyle Heights is mentioned here without mentioning the most salient point to this article: the displacement of the Jewish population by the Latino one (the last synagogue in the neighborhood is a historical monument, but has been vacant for 20 years).

    One thing that this article doesn't address, but that is relevant in the history of California urban land battles (both figurative and sometimes literal), is the distinction between US-born Latinos and past immigrants (mostly from Mexico or of Mexican descent), and newer ones (sometimes Mexican, but also often from other countries, mostly in Central America), and also to whom exactly cultural gestures like Marxism, Chicanismo, etc., appeal to (mostly either the old or college educated). Boyle Heights and East LA generally are the cultural center of an older generation, one that defined the Chicano movement of the 1970s and on, but a lot of the Latino population that's moved in since (and have, for example, displaced blacks out of South Central) have been more recent arrivals, who don't naturally share or identify with these 30-40 year old political movements.

    Displacement of the Jewish population?! In my neck of the woods, it was the Jewish population selling out neighborhoods to the minority community. These areas are now being gentrified, returning to the state they were in 50 years ago.

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  100. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jefferson
    "I’m not sure how well Spanish Sephardic DNA can be found in common DNA tests. 23andme only gives you Ashkenazi. A lot of Ashkenazi, however, went to Latin America, especially the leftist sorts, and they tended to merge into the upper class quickly.

    Same for really all groups of Europeans who immigrated to Latin America in the first half of the 20th century being heavy on secular leftists. So my guess is your friend’s grandmother was partly Ashkenazi.

    The conversos from the 1400′s who stayed in Spain are now likely completely blended into the Spanish population, with only small variations by region.

    In 1530, however, you might have had 20% of the Spanish going to Latin America be conversos who themselves averaged 50% Sephardic ancestry, while Spanish men who did not immigrate might have been only 2% on average."

    According to 23AndMe, I am 1/16 Jewish. Hidden Jewish ancestry is more common in Southern Europeans than it is in Northern Europeans.

    It is not possible to exclude that what the test you took is picking up is Italian admixture among Jews and assigning it to the Jewish category. There is stronger and stronger population genetic evidence of that admixture among Ashkenazi Jews.

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  101. […] Which is a big win if you’re a developer, because those original residents were a large part of the reason why the neighborhood you’re trying to flip was so shitty in the first place, but kind of sucks if you are one of those people who can no longer afford rent. Which means, among other things, that you’ll often get  local kick-back against your gentrification schemes: (h/t Steve Sailer) […]

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