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From the Washington Post:

… The report stoked fear among Twin Cities Somalis, who have worked for decades to become part of the city’s fabric. There are now Somalis on the police force, the city council and in the Minnesota House of Representatives. But the largely Muslim population of Somali Americans in the Twin Cities region still face Islamophobia and innuendo about terrorism.

“They fear this will be just another event used to create animosity toward the Somali community,” Mohamud Noor, executive director at the Confederation of Somali Community in Minnesota, told The Post.

Already, hateful posts criticizing Islam and sharia law are filling social media in response to the police shooting. Several far-right blogs featured sensational headlines that blamed the officer’s ethnicity, not his training, for the deadly use of force.

Other Somali officers in the police department are “nervous,” Jamal said.

“They’re not talking at all,” he said. “You can feel the pressure, because you know, the difference now is ‘one of you guys did it.’

“The fact that the police involved in the shooting is Somali makes it a different matter,” he said.

Mohamud Noor, who is not related to the officer, is also a city council candidate. He and others in the Somali community have protested other police shootings in the Twin Cities region along with Black Lives Matter, but this one “changes the narrative,” he said. Usually, they are protesting the death of black men at the hands of police, he said. Now it is a white woman reportedly shot by a black officer.

He hopes the conversation will focus on police reform, not racial stereotypes.

Here are some other recent examples of media frontlash.

 
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  1. black sea says:

    Other Somali officers in the police department are “nervous,” Jamal said.

    Judging from recent events, the last thing you want is a nervous Somali police officer.

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  2. newrouter says:

    “He hopes the conversation will focus on police reform, not racial stereotypes.”

    whitey is kind of fun to play with no? fu

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    • Replies: @Wally
    'Analysis of Washington Post police-shootings data reveals nearly 2x more whites than blacks shot by police'

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07/18/analysis-of-washington-post-police-shootings-data-reveals-surprising-result/
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  3. This sort of crepe always remind me of the bit from elementary school.

    *whack* “Stop hitting yourself…”
    *whack* “Boy are you clumsy … stop hitting yourself … ”
    *whack* “I saiiiiid, ‘stop hitting yourself’ … ”
    ….

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  4. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170718-the-metaphors-that-shape-womens-lives

    From glass cliffs to sticky floors, social scientists often use evocative imagery to highlight the barriers that women face in work and life – but are there downsides to relying on these metaphors?

    I don’t know, are there any downsides to making it a pathology to notice a pattern of harm from some group? Like living in a Bizarro World where the more they harm and the more noticeable it is, the higher their moral ground over the noticers?

    But the largely Muslim population of Somali Americans in the region still face Islamophobia and innuendo about terrorism.

    “They fear this will be just another event used to create animosity toward the Somali community,” Mohamud Noor, executive director at the Confederation of Somali Community in Minnesota, told The Post.

    He and others in the Somali community have protested other police shootings in the region along with Black Lives Matter, but this one “changes the narrative,” he said. Usually, they are protesting the death of black men at the hands of police, he said. Now it is a white woman reportedly shot by a black officer.

    He hopes the conversation will focus on police reform, not racial stereotypes.

    That’s right, police reform.

    The narrative having to change is all the more reason you must be guilted for not paying attention to the old narrative (that we have conveniently ret-conned for you so you won’t lose face if you belatedly decide to get with our program).

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  5. Veracitor says:

    Love that WaPo photo! Three white guys (one young and somber), but no Somalis (especially not the preferentially-hired Somali police officer who shot the woman for no apparent reason). The cutline tells us who they are– relatives of the slain woman (probably we should call her “the victim” now, since the police haven’t accused her of any misconduct)– but the headline suggests the folks in the photo are expressing concerns for the “Somali community,” which is pretty insulting, or that they’re inflicting “backlash,” which is even more insulting.

    Bezos seems to be using the Washington Post to carry out an experiment in screaming yellow journalism such as America hasn’t seen in a century or longer.

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    Bezos is going to one up Hearst. Any piker can gin up a war with Spain.

    Real He Men start civil wars or get nuclear powers to lob missiles at each other based solely off "anonymous sources".
    , @Francis G.
    I'm wondering who even reads WaPo or NYT anymore besides bien pensant liberals who want their ridiculous worldview confirmed and right-wing bloggers who want something to ridicule. I was never a WaPo reader and by 2002 I had had my fill of the Gray Lady's smug sanctimony and tendentious reporting.
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  6. Daniel H says:

    >> Mohamud Noor, who is not related to the officer, is also a city council candidate.

    How would anybody know, even the two Noors themselves? It’s not as if anybody in Somalia objects one bit if a man marries his first cousin, and I doubt that any records more than could be retained in memory were or are ever kept. My guess? The two Noors are no more distantly related than second cousins.

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    • Replies: @Barnard
    That is a good point. I have heard that many East African refugees use January 1 as their birthday, because they don't have any birth records and don't know what month or day they were born. I don't know how common the last names are, but the only way I would be convinced they aren't related at least as close as second cousins is if they came from cities in Somalia that are not very close geographically.
    , @Jack D
    What are the odds that two white men named John Smith or Tom Johnson are related?
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  7. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    There are a lot of annoying things about living where I do, including nosebleed property taxes, in part to pay high police salaries, but one plus is the hiring for police jobs is highly competitive. I can’t imagine Mohamed Noor getting a police job here.

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Noor might have been a cheaper hire, but he won't be after the city's wrongful death civil suit judgment on this atrocity.
    , @Anonymous
    Being a cop in blue-state America is highly compensated. In most cases it blows away getting a STEM degree from a prestigious school. I know a guy who got his B.S., M.S., and Ph.D. in engineering from MIT and after working 30 years at a prestigious Massachusetts lab pulls down $135k. A very good salary and well above the average (even for MA), but nothing compared to a MA State cop who puts in the same hours. And the statie gets a generous pension at an early age.

    It pays to be a cop in a liberal state/area. Here are some California Highway Patrol sergeant salaries (2016): Larren R Nelson ($302k), Daniel S Fugate ($290k), Rogelio Ramos ($289k), Angela R Ditzenberger ($286k), Richard Zavala ($268k)... The CHP has over 900 sergeants. http://www.sacbee.com/site-services/databases/state-pay/article2642161.html#storylink=cpy

    For a young person today, it would be beneficial to join the USAF reserves (for hiring preferences) and then apply to as many police departments as possible. College should be a fall back if you can't get on a PD.

    , @Jack D
    If where you lived had a large black or Somali population there would be political pressure to have the police force "reflect the community" and maybe anti-discrimination lawsuits from the (Obama) Dept. of Justice if you had a qualification test that was not easy enough for low IQ blacks to pass. Don't imagine that you are immune just because you are living in some whitopia suburb - it's only a matter of time before the Eye of Soros turns its gaze on your community. The people of Ferguson once thought they were immune too.
    , @ben tillman

    There are a lot of annoying things about living where I do, including nosebleed property taxes, in part to pay high police salaries, but one plus is the hiring for police jobs is highly competitive. I can’t imagine Mohamed Noor getting a police job here.
     
    You live in Japan?
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  8. newrouter says:

    Where is the photo of this top recruit and Minneapolis top pols? you betcha.

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    Minneapolis Mayor Betsy Hodges wrote a lengthy Facebook post after Noor's hiring in 2015, welcoming him. There was also a reception attended by "hundreds", but at the moment, this article and photo of him (beneath the point #2 in the article) will have to do:

    https://heavy.com/news/2017/07/mohamed-noor-justine-damond-ruszczyk-minneapolis-police-officer-somali-mohammed/
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  9. OT

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jul/17/daniel-barenboim-calls-for-european-unity-in-proms-speech

    “Pianist and conductor Daniel Barenboim gave an impassioned speech at the BBC Proms, calling for European unity and warning against the dangers of nationalism and “isolationist tendencies”.

    Barenboim was directing Orchestra Staatskapelle Berlin on Sunday night at the Royal Albert Hall and ended the evening with a speech expressing his fears about the political climate across Europe.

    “When I look at the world with so many isolationist tendencies, I get very worried,” said Barenboim. “And I know I’m not alone. I was married in this country and I lived here for many years, and I was shown so much affection whilst I lived here that this kind of gave me the impetus, if you want, to say what I would like to say.”

    The issue, he said was not “the policies of this country and of that country. The main problem of today is that there is not enough education. That there is not enough education for music, we’ve known for a long time. But now there is not enough education about whom we are, what is a human being, and how he is to relate with others of the same kind.”

    From wiki

    “Daniel Barenboim, KBE; born 15 November 1942) is an Argentine-Israeli pianist and conductor who is also a citizen of Palestine and Spain.”

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    Psst. He hates Israelis, hates Jews, and has even been going out of his way for decades to purposely hurt Holocaust Survivors.

    I assume the Israeli part is why you brought his name up. Otherwise, he's a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever. Of course you failed to have noticed that he is a citizen of Palestine. Oh, also that he's living in Germany. Well done!
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  10. Moshe says:

    Quality Stuff.

    Off Topic but Awesome:

    PEW wants to shame us into opposing The Great American Wall as you would shame a child.

    Apparently they asked people around the world what they felt ABOUT A WALL DIVIDING MEXICO FROM THE USA because, of course, as undocumented citizens-to-be it’s only right that we don’t run roughshod over their preferences regarding our nation’s policies…

    https://mobile.twitter.com/pewresearch/status/886888513584680960/photo/1

    Spain, Sweden, Germany, Netherlands, Columbia and…Mexico do not support our imaginaru wall at all. Single digits.

    I don’t know the level of American support but let’s say 35%.

    A few citizenries (surprisingly) support our wall at least that much (not that we damn well need them to, but it’s interesting)

    Hungary – yeah, they’re on Team Trump (Voters)

    Russia – kinna ditto

    Vietnam – ¿¿Thoughts??

    Jordan — I know something about Jordan and I don’t understand this number, unless PEW outsourced their polling work to the palace

    Israel – contrary to popular opinion Israelis in Israel aren’t very hypocritical

    Nigeria – Africans don’t want Mexicans cutting in line but also Nigerians, for Christian and other reasons seem to like/respect us

    Come to think of it, 35% of a foreign country’s subjects supporting one of our “extremist” and nativist policies should actually be the lead.

    As you can see in the link (and the related study) PEW chose a different headline.

    I personally believe we shouldn’t move forward on the wall until we know where Afghanis and Iranians stand. I couldn’t live with myself if we first build a wall only to find out when it’s done that the denizens of Kandahar and Qom opposed it all along.

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    It is perfectly reasonable why most of the world doesn't support a wall on the US-Mexican border. Mexico is the backdoor to gain entry into the USA if the need ever arises. People around the world know that if they ever want to get into the USA, they can always waltz across the border from Mexico if all else fails. Thus, a proper wall or barrier along the US-Mexican border would potentially take away this golden door.
    , @reiner Tor
    My opinion of Israelis has gone a bit up over the past week.

    The Hungarian government ran an advertising campaign against Soros, they recently put huge posters on the wall with a picture of Soros laughing and the words (in Hungarian) "Don't Let Soros Have the Last Laugh".

    The usual suspects (which includes most of the Jewish community, the leftist parties, the non-Orbán controlled half of the press and media, etc.) immediately accused the government of engaging in anti-Semitic propaganda. The Israeli ambassador ten days ago on Saturday (curious timing, and not only because Saturday is not a workday in Israel or in Hungary) issued a very sharply worded statement which called the posters anti-Semitic and demanded that the Hungarian government immediately take them down and stop the campaign. However, a day later, the following Sunday, Netanyahu countermanded his ambassador, and made the Israeli foreign ministry issue a statement to the effect that while they are generally against anti-Semitism, but they don't think that criticizing Soros, who they consider an enemy of Israel, to be anti-Semitism in and of itself. Netanyahu also didn't cancel his visit in Budapest (right now - the first time an Israeli prime minister visits Hungary since 1988), and in fact didn't criticize Orbán at all.

    My only complaint is that the ambassador still has his job. But it was a nice move from Netanyahu. I certainly didn't expect it, especially in light of how he criticized Trump's wall back in the US presidential campaign. Orbán also made a few moves which I tend to view as demented (like praising Horthy, the country's head of state 1920-44...) which made it extremely hard for Netanyahu to make this move.

    (BTW I dislike Orbán's extremely lowbrow propaganda campaigns. They are not very effective either, as last year's referendum fiasco amply shows.)

    , @Massimo Heitor

    PEW wants to shame us into opposing The Great American Wall as you would shame a child.

    Apparently they asked people around the world what they felt ABOUT A WALL DIVIDING MEXICO FROM THE USA[...]

    https://mobile.twitter.com/pewresearch/status/886888513584680960/photo/1

    Spain, Sweden, Germany, Netherlands, Columbia and…Mexico do not support our imaginaru wall at all. Single digits.
     
    Better poll questions:
    - How do you feel about border walls blocking migrants in Israel, Jordan, or Saudi Arabia?
    - How do you feel about brutal treatment towards undocumented immigrants in Mexico?
    - How do you feel about Japan's preference to stay ethnically Japanese and restrict immigration to facilitate this?
    - How do you feel about Emma Lazarus's support for an ethnically exclusive Jewish state that welcomes Jews and only Jews?
    - How do you feel about highly selective high skill immigration system of Canada? They have approximately the same number of recent immigrants speaking Italian or German as they do Spanish. Would it be immoral for US to adopt the same model?
    - How do you feel about the Chinese viewpoint that their ethnic group is special and more important than other ethnic groups? Is this racist? Is there a group on Earth that isn't racist in this way?
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  11. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen
    There are a lot of annoying things about living where I do, including nosebleed property taxes, in part to pay high police salaries, but one plus is the hiring for police jobs is highly competitive. I can't imagine Mohamed Noor getting a police job here.

    Noor might have been a cheaper hire, but he won’t be after the city’s wrongful death civil suit judgment on this atrocity.

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  12. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I’d bet that by this point Bezos could get some AI to write at least a passable version of these stories. But you probably don’t even need AI, just some randomizer with a few variables filled in. “Already (far-right|alt-right|extremist) (blogs|forums|message boards) are (spewing vitriol|creating fear|producing hate speech) directed at the X community…” He could fire some writers and offer them jobs in the warehouse. Win/win for him, as he already knows they’ll do anything for money. Clever guy.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    One thing a lot of editors know is that if you want to hire cheap, just advertise for SJWers. The thing about extremists is that they'll write for free. Look at Huffpo. They're crazy-eager to influence the narrative. If you want to fill up columns, just look for fanatics. In a time in which advertising revenue is drying up, they keep your costs low and the masthead staffed. They aren't mere paid hacks, oh no, they're on a sacred mission.
    , @Jack D
    Apparently there are already bots that write up simple sports stories based on box scores. Actually this is not new in a way. Back in the day, local radio announcers used to give "live play by play" of away games based only on a cryptic ticker tape telegraph feed. 12 S, B, S, B, B, etc. The announcer had to invent the "color" on his own - B = "Rodgers, the pitcher, is sweating profusely and mopping his brow in the afternoon sun. He fakes a throw to 1st and the runner Jones rushes back to his base. He throws and the pitch to Gergenberger is high and inside for a ball."
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  13. syonredux says:

    He hopes the conversation will focus on police reform, not racial stereotypes.

    Hey, I’m all for police reform. How about setting 115 as the minimum IQ for being a cop…..

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    I think a 90 minimum IQ requirement would keep 95% of Somalis out.
    , @donut
    I'm sorry that I can't give a source for this but I did read somewhere within the past year or so that the police do not like to hire high IQ types as they become bored too quickly with the job .
    A few years ago I watched on youtube more true crime shows than I care to admit . One thing I got from that was that how intelligent a police officer was was not an important factor in solving crimes . Following procedures developed over years and persistence is what solves crimes .
    The show The First 48 Hrs. doesn't count because the miscreants are so stupid that they solve the crime for you . But all the same the detectives involved followed proven procedures . Shout out to Sgt. Caroline Mason .
    Where I live in Towson my interactions with the police have all been positive even though they're giving me a ticket that I had coming . In Baltimore not so much .
    I have lived in 14 states and 7 cities of over 500.000 pop. My experiences with the police have ranged from pleasant to frightening and they were all traffic related BTW . On the other hand I can say the same for my experiences with doctors .
    , @SteveRogers42
    Firearms and "defensive tactics" training that is "realistic and regularly reinforced" would be far more effective in fixing what's wrong with street cops. Forget the bureaucratic BS of firing to meet the state qualification standards -- begin with basic motor-skills training and progress to realistic scenario training in venues such as a "shoot house".

    Contrary to the popular belief that has been informed by self serving PD propaganda, regular patrol officers are poorly-trained in use-of-force tools and tactics. Most of their training is focused on paperwork procedures and how to best implement the ever-shifting priorities of political correctness. (SWAT team officers, particularly those on full-time big-city teams, are the exception to this rule, at least where firearms usage and physical fitness are concerned.)

    There are myriad reasons for this state of affairs, but the Gordian knot could be cut if a concerned public was aware of how pitifully unprepared most American police officers are to successfully conclude a use-of-force incident.
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  14. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if the WaPo (or another MSM outlet) ran article about frontlash against the white community when a white police officer shoots a POC?

    But no, of course they wouldn’t; it’s always the violent whites causing trouble for everyone else trying to get by in life.

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  15. Moshe says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    OT

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jul/17/daniel-barenboim-calls-for-european-unity-in-proms-speech

    "Pianist and conductor Daniel Barenboim gave an impassioned speech at the BBC Proms, calling for European unity and warning against the dangers of nationalism and “isolationist tendencies”.

    Barenboim was directing Orchestra Staatskapelle Berlin on Sunday night at the Royal Albert Hall and ended the evening with a speech expressing his fears about the political climate across Europe.

    “When I look at the world with so many isolationist tendencies, I get very worried,” said Barenboim. “And I know I’m not alone. I was married in this country and I lived here for many years, and I was shown so much affection whilst I lived here that this kind of gave me the impetus, if you want, to say what I would like to say.”

    The issue, he said was not “the policies of this country and of that country. The main problem of today is that there is not enough education. That there is not enough education for music, we’ve known for a long time. But now there is not enough education about whom we are, what is a human being, and how he is to relate with others of the same kind.”
     
    From wiki

    "Daniel Barenboim, KBE; born 15 November 1942) is an Argentine-Israeli pianist and conductor who is also a citizen of Palestine and Spain."

    Psst. He hates Israelis, hates Jews, and has even been going out of his way for decades to purposely hurt Holocaust Survivors.

    I assume the Israeli part is why you brought his name up. Otherwise, he’s a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever. Of course you failed to have noticed that he is a citizen of Palestine. Oh, also that he’s living in Germany. Well done!

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    He hates Israelis, hates Jews...

    That's not the Daniel Barenboim I know:

    My Land, My Pain

    Yes, the Jews had a right to their own state, and they had a right to this state. This demand was made even stronger by the Holocaust and the guilt of the Europeans after 1945.

    ...


    For many years now I have not lived in Israel, and I am very conscious of my outsider's perspective. Sometimes people ask me, "what is a Jew?" The answer is the following: A Jew who has anti-Semitic experiences in Berlin in 2008 is different from the Jew who had anti-Semitic experiences in 1940. The Jew of 1940 felt threatened; the Jew of today can think of his own land, of Israel.


    Just like every other Jew Daniel Barenboim has his own opinion on what's good for Jews and is prepared to debate it ad nauseam with other Jews.

    Otherwise, he’s a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever.

    That's not true either.

    Here's a brilliant rendition of Tchaikovsky's Symphony No. 4 (Barenboim actually looks and acts a hell of a lot like my dad in this):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLHj-eekdNU
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    He's a hypocrite. Of his four passports, only Spain has little in the way of border control. He's also bloody ill-mannered, coming to the Proms as an honoured guest, slagging off his hosts for not voting the way he'd like, and implying it's because of poor education.
    , @vinteuil
    "...he’s a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever."

    Don't be silly. If there's anybody who qualifies for the title "eminence grise" in the world of classical music today, it's Daniel Barenboim. He's not my cup of tea, either musically or politically. But "totally irrelevant?" - that's just ridiculous.
    , @Altai
    Opposing Occupation == Hating Jews? I don't see any comments he makes similar to white gentile liberals about how bad his people are. His partner is even an Englishman who converted to Judaism. Seems more like the unhinged Likudniks went after him as part of a zero tolerance policy of any dissent from their ultimately self-destructive agenda. They can't bridge any high profile Israeli opposition in the West, a very serious threat to narrative control. Since he is a Jew and Israeli they can more easily put social pressure on him to conform, like Goldstone.
    , @Mr. Anon

    I assume the Israeli part is why you brought his name up.
     
    No, I assume the fact that he is a Jew is why YetAnotherAnon brought it up - the fact that many Jews seem to feel the need, and assume the right, to lecture people about "what X (country) is all about". And "what country X is all about" inevitably leads to the dissolution of the historic population of country X.

    Otherwise, he’s a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever.
     
    I thought the jewish people were a Light unto the World because of all the talented and accomplished people they produce - people like Daniel Barenboim, who certainly qualifies as talented and accomplished. So, are the only ones who are relevant, and not "of no importance whatsoever", the finaniciers, schemers, and pornographers?
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  16. vinteuil says:

    Mohamed Noor, Mohamud Noor, no relation…that’s interesting.

    Is Noor some sort of default surname among Somalis, the way Mo/u/ham/mm/a/e/u/d is the default male given name?

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  17. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Moshe
    Quality Stuff.

    Off Topic but Awesome:

    PEW wants to shame us into opposing The Great American Wall as you would shame a child.

    Apparently they asked people around the world what they felt ABOUT A WALL DIVIDING MEXICO FROM THE USA because, of course, as undocumented citizens-to-be it's only right that we don't run roughshod over their preferences regarding our nation's policies...

    https://mobile.twitter.com/pewresearch/status/886888513584680960/photo/1

    Spain, Sweden, Germany, Netherlands, Columbia and...Mexico do not support our imaginaru wall at all. Single digits.

    I don't know the level of American support but let's say 35%.

    A few citizenries (surprisingly) support our wall at least that much (not that we damn well need them to, but it's interesting)

    Hungary - yeah, they're on Team Trump (Voters)

    Russia - kinna ditto

    Vietnam - ¿¿Thoughts??

    Jordan -- I know something about Jordan and I don't understand this number, unless PEW outsourced their polling work to the palace

    Israel - contrary to popular opinion Israelis in Israel aren't very hypocritical

    Nigeria - Africans don't want Mexicans cutting in line but also Nigerians, for Christian and other reasons seem to like/respect us

    Come to think of it, 35% of a foreign country's subjects supporting one of our "extremist" and nativist policies should actually be the lead.

    As you can see in the link (and the related study) PEW chose a different headline.

    I personally believe we shouldn't move forward on the wall until we know where Afghanis and Iranians stand. I couldn't live with myself if we first build a wall only to find out when it's done that the denizens of Kandahar and Qom opposed it all along.

    It is perfectly reasonable why most of the world doesn’t support a wall on the US-Mexican border. Mexico is the backdoor to gain entry into the USA if the need ever arises. People around the world know that if they ever want to get into the USA, they can always waltz across the border from Mexico if all else fails. Thus, a proper wall or barrier along the US-Mexican border would potentially take away this golden door.

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    This seems like an opportunity for the criminal class. Or maybe not. I am already shooting down my own proposal. I was going to suggest that with all those Canadian islands up there, it can't be all that hard to slip into Canada unnoticed. And then once you're in Canada, you've got all the hate-speech laws on your side, so if anyone wonders why some non-white non-"First Nations" person is wandering around up north, you can threaten them with a felony prosecution. Then you can pretty much just wander into Maine or something like that. But I guess the real challenge is getting into the quasi-Arctic region from anywhere else. Maybe you go from Greenland. Get to Greenland from Denmark proper legally, then have smugglers take you into Canada. I read somewhere (probably here) that Denmark is the most restrictive European country (or Western or Northern European country) with respect to immigration, but I'm certain any enterprising immigrant could get in. Take a boat from Sweden. Actually, I think this works. Criminals, go for it.
    , @Alec Leamas

    Thus, a proper wall or barrier along the US-Mexican border would potentially take away this golden door.
     
    I don't think the objection is necessarily a practical one - viz, that people outside of Mexico and Central America plan to possibly use our Southern border to come to the U.S.

    Rather, I think it's the idea that the United States might wake up and quit being the international patsy for the world's flotsam.
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  18. Byzantine says:

    Somalia follows a system of communal punishment: justice for murder in Solamia consists of the family of the killer turning over the murderer for execution. Failure to turn him over is handled by the victim’s family executing three men of the murderer’s clan.

    This begs the questions: when Somali police notice that there is no “justice” in the American system, will they feel free to misapply their power? When Somali police die on the line of duty, will their comrades be unsatisfied with the wheels of American justice?

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  19. Hugh says:

    Several far-right blogs featured sensational headlines that blamed the officer’s ethnicity, not his training, for the deadly use of force.

    Wow! What’s officer training based on in the Twin Cities? Terminator 2 reruns?

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    Wow! What’s officer training based on in the Twin Cities? Terminator 2 reruns?

    https://youtu.be/BVE-7x9Usvw

    Is this what you mean?
    , @Anonymous
    No policeman or armed individual with half a brain would fire a gun from the passenger side of a vehicle into the door of the driver unless they were high as a kite or trying to kill the driver.

    Police training, my ass. Somalis are imbeciles. Mohamed Noor is exhibit A. I'm surprised his stunned partner driving the car didn't pull out his gun and shoot this idiot dead in self defense.
    , @SteveRogers42
    The problem in this specific case is police hiring, more than training.
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  20. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Sixty percent of the working age Somali population in Minneapolis is unemployed. The performance of Officer Noor makes you think we might be better if it was 100%. It’s hard to find anything a violent imbecilic ethnic group like Somalis can do without causing harm. Better to keep them 24/7 in front of TV screens in public housing projects and deliver food and toilet paper to their door.

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    Sixty percent of the working age Somali population in Minneapolis is unemployed.

    That can't be right -- after all it says right in the article:

    ...Twin Cities Somalis, who have worked for decades to become part of the city’s fabric.

    So they are working.

    , @Achmed E. Newman

    Better to keep them 24/7 in front of TV screens in public housing projects and deliver food and toilet paper to their door.
     
    Yeah, until the seat opens up back to the muddaland ... I hope that's what you meant,
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  21. Mr. Blank says:

    Perhaps some enterprising journalist would enlighten us on why, exactly, there is a huge Somali community in Minnesota, of all places.

    I’ve never seen this curious fact adequately explained. I doubt the Somalis themselves would have picked Minnesota if it had been up to them, and I can’t imagine the white community in Minnesota decided they needed a sudden influx of thousands of Somalis — not that anyone ever bothered to consult them.

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    If I'm not mistaken, the answer is Lutheran "social justice" non-profits. On a deeper level, the answer is that many strains of Christianity, despite no longer embracing God on a metaphysical level, remain quite religious and devolve into SJWism. I guess it is in some sense, or pretty much completely, akin to what has happened in Sweden.
    , @Jack Hanson
    Because cucked Minnesotans will be more than happy to roll over for them.

    They tried dumping refugees in Arizona, but its too hot and we don't hand out gimmedats to their liking so they're fleeing to MN and Maine.
    , @Olorin
    The one-word answer:

    Lutherans.


    LSS Refugee Services began operating in the mid-1970’s in response to the crisis occurring in Southeast Asia. Refugees started to arrive in Minnesota from countries such as Cambodia, Vietnam, and Laos. During the 1980’s, LSS Refugee Services continued to resettle refugees from Asia, as well as countries such as Ethiopia. During the 1990’s and into the twenty-first century, conflicts in East and West Africa and the changing political situations in Eastern Europe brought refugees from these regions into Minnesota.

    As it has in the past, LSS Refugee Services continues to play an instrumental role in assisting refugees from around the world start their new lives in Minnesota.

    http://unitedwayhelps.galaxydigital.com/volunteer/agency/display/lutheran-social-service-of-minnesota--refugee-services/?agency_id=39018
     

    Location of the national headquarters of Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services?

    Baltimore.

    http://lirs.org/locations/

    See page 2 of their Form 990, item #1, for their assertion that God supports white genocide as he pours nearly $60 million in their coffers so they can "transform communities" through "migrants and refugees."

    http://lirs.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Form-990-2015-Final.pdf

    Note also the plump salaries of its executives. Page 8, Part VII.

    LIRS partners with Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota.

    http://www.lssmn.org/AndWhoIsMyNeighbor/

    My Neighbor Is Muslim
    http://www.lssmn.org/refugeeservices/study/

    Now I'm focusing on the Looterans because Officer al-Shooty bin BangBang took his much-reported college degree from Augsburg College--a private Looteran (ELCA for those keeping splinter group score) diploma mill in the most Third World part of Mpls.

    It appears to specialize in pushing brown people through and getting them positioned to feed at the affirmative action trough while displacing native-born and founding-stock Americans. Its student body is 42 percent nonwhite (Mpls is 26 percent nonwhite, and Minnesota, 23 percent) and they receive hefty amounts of grant bling from the Lutherans to attend this surprisingly pricey institution.

    So I figure the Loots were instrumental in foisting him upon the city and arming him.

    But there are other religious refugee resettlement organizations with a lot of power and money in MN as well:

    http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/idepc/refugee/topics/resettlement.html

    The Catlicks even illustrate their home page with a Muzzie family with, at the time of photo, three offspring of elementary school age.

    https://www.cctwincities.org/locations/refugee-reception-placement/

    According to Pew Research, Minneapolis's population is 70% Christian with Protestants at about 2:1 over Catlicks. I seem to recall that Catlicks comprise Minnesota's largest religious affiliation with ELCA running second by about half a million.

    And trads/neoTrads wonder why some of us have such antipathy to the Rabbi On A Stick cults that invaded the North a millennium ago...and never stop trying to vanquish us and our ancestors and descendants with new invaders.

    , @Random Dude on the Internet
    There is a large contingent of Minnesotans with German and Scandinavian ancestry. There must be a special gene in the German and the Swede that reflexively just rolls over for any Muslim who wants a free ride.
    , @Mr. Anon
    There are also large populations of Somalis in Maine and in the Puget Sound. What Maine, Minnesota, and Washington have in common are the presence of numerous liberal do-gooder groups, whose idea of charity is to dump refugees off on the local welfare system, the liberality of local governments when it comes to welfare and "social services", and the fact that those places were relatively white. The latter is not the least consideration. They were white places that needed to be browned, as somebody saw it. There shall not be permitted to exist any place that is overwhelmingly white.
    , @Corvinus
    Matthew 5:42--Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

    "I’ve never seen this curious fact adequately explained..."

    It's simple...Christian brotherhood.

    But of course you get this comment...

    "On a deeper level, the answer is that many strains of Christianity, despite no longer embracing God on a metaphysical level, remain quite religious and devolve into SJWism."

    Or this one...

    "Because cucked Minnesotans will be more than happy to roll over for them."

    If that be the case, then Jesus Himself who helped the poor and needy was also "cucked".

    And this one.

    "There must be a special gene in the German and the Swede that reflexively just rolls over for any Muslim who wants a free ride."

    That is an anti-white statement.

    See, in the 1840's and 1850's, when nativists were in full throat opposition to Irish and German immigration, church groups in major cities were instrumental in bringing a measure of dignity in an era when they were made to feel they were of a lower breed of people. These religious organizations dispensed charity and created parochial schools, which is no different than what "cucks" are doing today when they assist immigrants.
    , @SMK
    Obviously, myriads of Somalis didn't decide, all by themselves, to move to Minnesota, a place they didn't even know existed. The invasion is explained by collusion between the federal government, which chose to allow legions of these Islamic Negroid primitives to enter the United States, with the state government of Minnesota and city and county Governments, the Churches, liberal activists, etc. Ergo, the governing-classes and ruling-elites of Minnesota and the Twin-Cities in particular, tormented by guilt that the black populations of both Minneapolis and St. Paul were less than 20% and thus the Twin-Cities had far less violence and criminality, illegitimacy, welfare dependence, etc., that most large U.S. cities, welcomed myriads of Somalis to "enrich" the state and it's cities with their unique amalgam of Islamic and East African "cultures."
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  22. eah says:

    Extreme deference to minorities in the cause of extreme deference to minorities is no vice.

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  23. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @anonymous
    It is perfectly reasonable why most of the world doesn't support a wall on the US-Mexican border. Mexico is the backdoor to gain entry into the USA if the need ever arises. People around the world know that if they ever want to get into the USA, they can always waltz across the border from Mexico if all else fails. Thus, a proper wall or barrier along the US-Mexican border would potentially take away this golden door.

    This seems like an opportunity for the criminal class. Or maybe not. I am already shooting down my own proposal. I was going to suggest that with all those Canadian islands up there, it can’t be all that hard to slip into Canada unnoticed. And then once you’re in Canada, you’ve got all the hate-speech laws on your side, so if anyone wonders why some non-white non-”First Nations” person is wandering around up north, you can threaten them with a felony prosecution. Then you can pretty much just wander into Maine or something like that. But I guess the real challenge is getting into the quasi-Arctic region from anywhere else. Maybe you go from Greenland. Get to Greenland from Denmark proper legally, then have smugglers take you into Canada. I read somewhere (probably here) that Denmark is the most restrictive European country (or Western or Northern European country) with respect to immigration, but I’m certain any enterprising immigrant could get in. Take a boat from Sweden. Actually, I think this works. Criminals, go for it.

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  24. reiner Tor says: • Website
    @Moshe
    Quality Stuff.

    Off Topic but Awesome:

    PEW wants to shame us into opposing The Great American Wall as you would shame a child.

    Apparently they asked people around the world what they felt ABOUT A WALL DIVIDING MEXICO FROM THE USA because, of course, as undocumented citizens-to-be it's only right that we don't run roughshod over their preferences regarding our nation's policies...

    https://mobile.twitter.com/pewresearch/status/886888513584680960/photo/1

    Spain, Sweden, Germany, Netherlands, Columbia and...Mexico do not support our imaginaru wall at all. Single digits.

    I don't know the level of American support but let's say 35%.

    A few citizenries (surprisingly) support our wall at least that much (not that we damn well need them to, but it's interesting)

    Hungary - yeah, they're on Team Trump (Voters)

    Russia - kinna ditto

    Vietnam - ¿¿Thoughts??

    Jordan -- I know something about Jordan and I don't understand this number, unless PEW outsourced their polling work to the palace

    Israel - contrary to popular opinion Israelis in Israel aren't very hypocritical

    Nigeria - Africans don't want Mexicans cutting in line but also Nigerians, for Christian and other reasons seem to like/respect us

    Come to think of it, 35% of a foreign country's subjects supporting one of our "extremist" and nativist policies should actually be the lead.

    As you can see in the link (and the related study) PEW chose a different headline.

    I personally believe we shouldn't move forward on the wall until we know where Afghanis and Iranians stand. I couldn't live with myself if we first build a wall only to find out when it's done that the denizens of Kandahar and Qom opposed it all along.

    My opinion of Israelis has gone a bit up over the past week.

    The Hungarian government ran an advertising campaign against Soros, they recently put huge posters on the wall with a picture of Soros laughing and the words (in Hungarian) “Don’t Let Soros Have the Last Laugh”.

    The usual suspects (which includes most of the Jewish community, the leftist parties, the non-Orbán controlled half of the press and media, etc.) immediately accused the government of engaging in anti-Semitic propaganda. The Israeli ambassador ten days ago on Saturday (curious timing, and not only because Saturday is not a workday in Israel or in Hungary) issued a very sharply worded statement which called the posters anti-Semitic and demanded that the Hungarian government immediately take them down and stop the campaign. However, a day later, the following Sunday, Netanyahu countermanded his ambassador, and made the Israeli foreign ministry issue a statement to the effect that while they are generally against anti-Semitism, but they don’t think that criticizing Soros, who they consider an enemy of Israel, to be anti-Semitism in and of itself. Netanyahu also didn’t cancel his visit in Budapest (right now – the first time an Israeli prime minister visits Hungary since 1988), and in fact didn’t criticize Orbán at all.

    My only complaint is that the ambassador still has his job. But it was a nice move from Netanyahu. I certainly didn’t expect it, especially in light of how he criticized Trump’s wall back in the US presidential campaign. Orbán also made a few moves which I tend to view as demented (like praising Horthy, the country’s head of state 1920-44…) which made it extremely hard for Netanyahu to make this move.

    (BTW I dislike Orbán’s extremely lowbrow propaganda campaigns. They are not very effective either, as last year’s referendum fiasco amply shows.)

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    You do realize the Israeli government based its response upon the fact that they considered Soros to be anti-Israel. If Soros was pro-Israel in their opinion, would they have stuck up for Hungary?
    , @IHTG
    Netanyahu spoke against the Muslim ban, not the wall.
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  25. @Moshe
    Psst. He hates Israelis, hates Jews, and has even been going out of his way for decades to purposely hurt Holocaust Survivors.

    I assume the Israeli part is why you brought his name up. Otherwise, he's a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever. Of course you failed to have noticed that he is a citizen of Palestine. Oh, also that he's living in Germany. Well done!

    He hates Israelis, hates Jews…

    That’s not the Daniel Barenboim I know:

    My Land, My Pain

    Yes, the Jews had a right to their own state, and they had a right to this state. This demand was made even stronger by the Holocaust and the guilt of the Europeans after 1945.

    For many years now I have not lived in Israel, and I am very conscious of my outsider’s perspective. Sometimes people ask me, “what is a Jew?” The answer is the following: A Jew who has anti-Semitic experiences in Berlin in 2008 is different from the Jew who had anti-Semitic experiences in 1940. The Jew of 1940 felt threatened; the Jew of today can think of his own land, of Israel.

    Just like every other Jew Daniel Barenboim has his own opinion on what’s good for Jews and is prepared to debate it ad nauseam with other Jews.

    Otherwise, he’s a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever.

    That’s not true either.

    Here’s a brilliant rendition of Tchaikovsky’s Symphony No. 4 (Barenboim actually looks and acts a hell of a lot like my dad in this):

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    Yes, he has opinions about what is good for the Jews. Lots of Jew haters have had such opinions over the centuries. Bear in mind, you don't get Palestinian citizenship, or decide to get up and move to Germany or go out of your way to PTSD Holocaust Survivors because you care so much about your fellow Jews.

    Anyhow he's human garbage
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  26. Wilkey says:

    Sixty percent of the working age Somali population in Minneapolis is unemployed. The performance of Officer Noor makes you think we might be better if it was 100%. It’s hard to find anything a violent imbecilic ethnic group like Somalis can do without causing harm. Better to keep them 24/7 in front of TV screens in public housing projects and deliver food and toilet paper to their door.

    While they multiply like tribbles.

    Here’s an Economist article about Somali immigrants in the United Kingdom, though it could really be about Somali immigrants anywhere.

    Some bullet points:

    1) Somali workforce participation (~30%) is less than half that of Kiwi, Polish, and Lithuanian immigrants (all at around 80%)

    2) “Most Somalis—Britain’s largest refugee population—do not work. They are among the poorest, worst-educated and least-employed in Britain.”

    3) Over 80% of Somali-speaking pupils qualify for free school meals.

    4) In Waltham Forest, a borough in east London, home to nearly 4,000 Somalis, 73% live in households on benefits.

    5) More than 50% of British Somalis rent from local councils, the highest proportion of any foreign-born population.

    6) In nearby Tower Hamlets 2010 data showed that Somalis were twice as likely as white Britons to be behind with the rent.

    7) Just one in ten [British Somalis] is in full-time work.

    8) Many Somali households are headed by women who came to Britain without their husbands. [Yet somehow they manage to keep reproducing at rates far faster than native Britons.]

    9) This cocktail of poverty and unemployment dogs Somalis elsewhere too. In 2009 they were the least-employed group in Denmark. [Oh wait, so Somali immigrants have lousy outcomes in Denmark, too! And in Norway! And in Sweden! And in the US! It's almost as if it has nothing whatsoever to do with those "racist pigs" in the receiving countries and everything to do with Somalis themselves.]

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    Just one in ten [British Somalis] is in full-time work
     
    I'm wondering if they are doing anything useful.

    This non-performing cohort excites our opinion forming class a little too much: they just see all the big gains to be had when the deplorables train the non-performers to maintain the electric grid and solve hard problems in algebraic geometry.
    , @schmenz
    8) Many Somali households are headed by women who came to Britain without their husbands. [Yet somehow they manage to keep reproducing at rates far faster than native Britons.]

    The same story as found in every US city with large black populations. Bastardy is as commonplace with them as eating and sleeping. Harsh thing to say, but the illegitimacy rate - 75% in my Midwestern city - tells the story.
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  27. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @reiner Tor
    My opinion of Israelis has gone a bit up over the past week.

    The Hungarian government ran an advertising campaign against Soros, they recently put huge posters on the wall with a picture of Soros laughing and the words (in Hungarian) "Don't Let Soros Have the Last Laugh".

    The usual suspects (which includes most of the Jewish community, the leftist parties, the non-Orbán controlled half of the press and media, etc.) immediately accused the government of engaging in anti-Semitic propaganda. The Israeli ambassador ten days ago on Saturday (curious timing, and not only because Saturday is not a workday in Israel or in Hungary) issued a very sharply worded statement which called the posters anti-Semitic and demanded that the Hungarian government immediately take them down and stop the campaign. However, a day later, the following Sunday, Netanyahu countermanded his ambassador, and made the Israeli foreign ministry issue a statement to the effect that while they are generally against anti-Semitism, but they don't think that criticizing Soros, who they consider an enemy of Israel, to be anti-Semitism in and of itself. Netanyahu also didn't cancel his visit in Budapest (right now - the first time an Israeli prime minister visits Hungary since 1988), and in fact didn't criticize Orbán at all.

    My only complaint is that the ambassador still has his job. But it was a nice move from Netanyahu. I certainly didn't expect it, especially in light of how he criticized Trump's wall back in the US presidential campaign. Orbán also made a few moves which I tend to view as demented (like praising Horthy, the country's head of state 1920-44...) which made it extremely hard for Netanyahu to make this move.

    (BTW I dislike Orbán's extremely lowbrow propaganda campaigns. They are not very effective either, as last year's referendum fiasco amply shows.)

    You do realize the Israeli government based its response upon the fact that they considered Soros to be anti-Israel. If Soros was pro-Israel in their opinion, would they have stuck up for Hungary?

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    That's already an improvement.
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  28. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Mr. Blank
    Perhaps some enterprising journalist would enlighten us on why, exactly, there is a huge Somali community in Minnesota, of all places.

    I've never seen this curious fact adequately explained. I doubt the Somalis themselves would have picked Minnesota if it had been up to them, and I can't imagine the white community in Minnesota decided they needed a sudden influx of thousands of Somalis -- not that anyone ever bothered to consult them.

    If I’m not mistaken, the answer is Lutheran “social justice” non-profits. On a deeper level, the answer is that many strains of Christianity, despite no longer embracing God on a metaphysical level, remain quite religious and devolve into SJWism. I guess it is in some sense, or pretty much completely, akin to what has happened in Sweden.

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  29. @Veracitor
    Love that WaPo photo! Three white guys (one young and somber), but no Somalis (especially not the preferentially-hired Somali police officer who shot the woman for no apparent reason). The cutline tells us who they are-- relatives of the slain woman (probably we should call her "the victim" now, since the police haven't accused her of any misconduct)-- but the headline suggests the folks in the photo are expressing concerns for the "Somali community," which is pretty insulting, or that they're inflicting "backlash," which is even more insulting.

    Bezos seems to be using the Washington Post to carry out an experiment in screaming yellow journalism such as America hasn't seen in a century or longer.

    Bezos is going to one up Hearst. Any piker can gin up a war with Spain.

    Real He Men start civil wars or get nuclear powers to lob missiles at each other based solely off “anonymous sources”.

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  30. we face actual terrorism from Minnesota Somalians*

    They face innuendo about terrorism.

    Pretty clear who the real victims are. Right, libs?

    *Minnesota, tied with New York, has had more ISIS related indictments than any other state

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  31. @Mr. Blank
    Perhaps some enterprising journalist would enlighten us on why, exactly, there is a huge Somali community in Minnesota, of all places.

    I've never seen this curious fact adequately explained. I doubt the Somalis themselves would have picked Minnesota if it had been up to them, and I can't imagine the white community in Minnesota decided they needed a sudden influx of thousands of Somalis -- not that anyone ever bothered to consult them.

    Because cucked Minnesotans will be more than happy to roll over for them.

    They tried dumping refugees in Arizona, but its too hot and we don’t hand out gimmedats to their liking so they’re fleeing to MN and Maine.

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    Is McCain the senior senator of Maine or Minnesota?
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  32. Oh yes, the Somalis there in the twin cities definitely are part of the “fabric.” They are well known for their hostility, stupidity, leeching off the welfare system, and general overall worthlessness.

    Truth be told, the natives would love to see the lot of them deported en masse — but are too cowed and beaten down by the media and dem party and Lutheran church — to complain. Minnesota Nice, dontcha know. I call it Minnesota Stupid.

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    Exactly - I have many friends and family in the Twin Cities area, and the one thing they agree on regardless of political outlook is that the Somalis are totally useless people who make no effort to work or integrate at all. The young boys are taught from day one that women are subservient to men so they often do not respect women in any position of authority (like as teachers) and as a group their primary interest is to live off the state. Just another example of what a massive mistake 'refugee' resettlement can be, not to mention the FBI's continued interest in how "Minnesota men" end up traveling abroad to seek training for jihad.
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  33. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    I'd bet that by this point Bezos could get some AI to write at least a passable version of these stories. But you probably don't even need AI, just some randomizer with a few variables filled in. "Already (far-right|alt-right|extremist) (blogs|forums|message boards) are (spewing vitriol|creating fear|producing hate speech) directed at the X community..." He could fire some writers and offer them jobs in the warehouse. Win/win for him, as he already knows they'll do anything for money. Clever guy.

    One thing a lot of editors know is that if you want to hire cheap, just advertise for SJWers. The thing about extremists is that they’ll write for free. Look at Huffpo. They’re crazy-eager to influence the narrative. If you want to fill up columns, just look for fanatics. In a time in which advertising revenue is drying up, they keep your costs low and the masthead staffed. They aren’t mere paid hacks, oh no, they’re on a sacred mission.

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    You make an excellent point and it's one that I starting noticing recently. Many of the SJW's graduating with useless degrees seem to end up with AmeriCorps performing more useless work promoting the SJW agenda. The SJW's frequently place ads on Craigslist in various cities looking to rent a room for $200 or $300 a month saying something similar to "...recent college grad, employed, but looking for cheap rent because my stipend is only $700 (or $800) a month..." A minimum waged McDonald's or Starbucks employee would make about 33% more.
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  34. @Jack Hanson
    Because cucked Minnesotans will be more than happy to roll over for them.

    They tried dumping refugees in Arizona, but its too hot and we don't hand out gimmedats to their liking so they're fleeing to MN and Maine.

    Is McCain the senior senator of Maine or Minnesota?

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    I notice in your haste to try and strike a blow, you fail to differentiate between local politics and a senatorial election as well as not mentioning your own senators.

    McCain is elected by the Mormon bloc and the snowbirds. Whenever he faces a serious primary challenger (Dr. Kelli Ward), suddenly 10 other challengers pop out of the woodwork to split the vote.
    , @Jack Hanson
    I notice in your haste to try and strike a blow, you fail to differentiate between local politics and a senatorial election as well as not mentioning your own senators.

    McCain is elected by the Mormon bloc and the snowbirds. Whenever he faces a serious primary challenger (Dr. Kelli Ward), suddenly 10 other challengers pop out of the woodwork to split the vote.

    You're becoming as bad as Art Deco.
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  35. @anonymous
    You do realize the Israeli government based its response upon the fact that they considered Soros to be anti-Israel. If Soros was pro-Israel in their opinion, would they have stuck up for Hungary?

    That’s already an improvement.

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  36. Wally says:
    @newrouter
    "He hopes the conversation will focus on police reform, not racial stereotypes."

    whitey is kind of fun to play with no? fu

    ‘Analysis of Washington Post police-shootings data reveals nearly 2x more whites than blacks shot by police’

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07/18/analysis-of-washington-post-police-shootings-data-reveals-surprising-result/

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  37. Olorin says:
    @Mr. Blank
    Perhaps some enterprising journalist would enlighten us on why, exactly, there is a huge Somali community in Minnesota, of all places.

    I've never seen this curious fact adequately explained. I doubt the Somalis themselves would have picked Minnesota if it had been up to them, and I can't imagine the white community in Minnesota decided they needed a sudden influx of thousands of Somalis -- not that anyone ever bothered to consult them.

    The one-word answer:

    Lutherans.

    LSS Refugee Services began operating in the mid-1970’s in response to the crisis occurring in Southeast Asia. Refugees started to arrive in Minnesota from countries such as Cambodia, Vietnam, and Laos. During the 1980’s, LSS Refugee Services continued to resettle refugees from Asia, as well as countries such as Ethiopia. During the 1990’s and into the twenty-first century, conflicts in East and West Africa and the changing political situations in Eastern Europe brought refugees from these regions into Minnesota.

    As it has in the past, LSS Refugee Services continues to play an instrumental role in assisting refugees from around the world start their new lives in Minnesota.

    http://unitedwayhelps.galaxydigital.com/volunteer/agency/display/lutheran-social-service-of-minnesota–refugee-services/?agency_id=39018

    Location of the national headquarters of Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services?

    Baltimore.

    http://lirs.org/locations/

    See page 2 of their Form 990, item #1, for their assertion that God supports white genocide as he pours nearly $60 million in their coffers so they can “transform communities” through “migrants and refugees.”

    http://lirs.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Form-990-2015-Final.pdf

    Note also the plump salaries of its executives. Page 8, Part VII.

    LIRS partners with Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota.

    http://www.lssmn.org/AndWhoIsMyNeighbor/

    My Neighbor Is Muslim

    http://www.lssmn.org/refugeeservices/study/

    Now I’m focusing on the Looterans because Officer al-Shooty bin BangBang took his much-reported college degree from Augsburg College–a private Looteran (ELCA for those keeping splinter group score) diploma mill in the most Third World part of Mpls.

    It appears to specialize in pushing brown people through and getting them positioned to feed at the affirmative action trough while displacing native-born and founding-stock Americans. Its student body is 42 percent nonwhite (Mpls is 26 percent nonwhite, and Minnesota, 23 percent) and they receive hefty amounts of grant bling from the Lutherans to attend this surprisingly pricey institution.

    So I figure the Loots were instrumental in foisting him upon the city and arming him.

    But there are other religious refugee resettlement organizations with a lot of power and money in MN as well:

    http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/idepc/refugee/topics/resettlement.html

    The Catlicks even illustrate their home page with a Muzzie family with, at the time of photo, three offspring of elementary school age.

    https://www.cctwincities.org/locations/refugee-reception-placement/

    According to Pew Research, Minneapolis’s population is 70% Christian with Protestants at about 2:1 over Catlicks. I seem to recall that Catlicks comprise Minnesota’s largest religious affiliation with ELCA running second by about half a million.

    And trads/neoTrads wonder why some of us have such antipathy to the Rabbi On A Stick cults that invaded the North a millennium ago…and never stop trying to vanquish us and our ancestors and descendants with new invaders.

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    And trads/neoTrads wonder why some of us have such antipathy to the Rabbi On A Stick cults that invaded the North a millennium ago…and never stop trying to vanquish us and our ancestors and descendants with new invaders.
     
    In real life, pagans are worst on the whole multiculturalism shtick. Dare you to join any formal pagan/Wiccan society and start talking anyone does on iSteve. You'd be gone faster than you could say "drum circle"

    You know why many pagans converted voluntarily? Because it was obvious to them these Christian soldiers/princes were much more powerful they were and wanted in. Even after the Japanese kicked out Christian missionaries, samurais would put images of Christ within their swords I believe, believing in it's power. It's performance art how alt-right pagan LARPers belly ache about being conquered by Christians for millennia but somehow they're going to save us all. Right.

    I'm not arguing about the corruption of cucked church administrations, those are facts that have more to with modernity than the religions themselves.

    But frankly, these arrogant and ill-educated posts are just SJW stuff in a different direction. Keep emoting and LARPing. I'm sure you're helping.

    , @Bill B.
    You can't say they are not honest. They certainly transform communities (and I say this as a Christian).

    From the form 990:

    Briefly describe the organization’s mission:
    WITNESSING TO GOD'S LOVE FOR ALL PEOPLE, WE STAND WITH AND ADVOCATE FOR MIGRANTS AND REFUGEES, TRANSFORMING COMMUNITIES THROUGH MINISTRIES OF SERVICE AND JUSTICE.

     

    , @Ripple Earthdevil
    There must be some way to blame the Jews.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Excellent research, sir. Thank you.
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  38. @Moshe
    Psst. He hates Israelis, hates Jews, and has even been going out of his way for decades to purposely hurt Holocaust Survivors.

    I assume the Israeli part is why you brought his name up. Otherwise, he's a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever. Of course you failed to have noticed that he is a citizen of Palestine. Oh, also that he's living in Germany. Well done!

    He’s a hypocrite. Of his four passports, only Spain has little in the way of border control. He’s also bloody ill-mannered, coming to the Proms as an honoured guest, slagging off his hosts for not voting the way he’d like, and implying it’s because of poor education.

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    I don't follow him but what I have heard I have not cared for.
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  39. IHTG says:
    @reiner Tor
    My opinion of Israelis has gone a bit up over the past week.

    The Hungarian government ran an advertising campaign against Soros, they recently put huge posters on the wall with a picture of Soros laughing and the words (in Hungarian) "Don't Let Soros Have the Last Laugh".

    The usual suspects (which includes most of the Jewish community, the leftist parties, the non-Orbán controlled half of the press and media, etc.) immediately accused the government of engaging in anti-Semitic propaganda. The Israeli ambassador ten days ago on Saturday (curious timing, and not only because Saturday is not a workday in Israel or in Hungary) issued a very sharply worded statement which called the posters anti-Semitic and demanded that the Hungarian government immediately take them down and stop the campaign. However, a day later, the following Sunday, Netanyahu countermanded his ambassador, and made the Israeli foreign ministry issue a statement to the effect that while they are generally against anti-Semitism, but they don't think that criticizing Soros, who they consider an enemy of Israel, to be anti-Semitism in and of itself. Netanyahu also didn't cancel his visit in Budapest (right now - the first time an Israeli prime minister visits Hungary since 1988), and in fact didn't criticize Orbán at all.

    My only complaint is that the ambassador still has his job. But it was a nice move from Netanyahu. I certainly didn't expect it, especially in light of how he criticized Trump's wall back in the US presidential campaign. Orbán also made a few moves which I tend to view as demented (like praising Horthy, the country's head of state 1920-44...) which made it extremely hard for Netanyahu to make this move.

    (BTW I dislike Orbán's extremely lowbrow propaganda campaigns. They are not very effective either, as last year's referendum fiasco amply shows.)

    Netanyahu spoke against the Muslim ban, not the wall.

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    Correct. He even spoke in support of the wall. Until someone got upset at him, the Mexicans? Anyway, he wrote that the Wall Works in Israel and that it is a great idea and very important for America to have it as well.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Netanyahu spoke against the Muslim ban, not the wall.
     
    There is nothing wrong with banning all muslims entry to the United States. It wasn't any of his business. And I have to wonder why he did it. I suppose he, like most people, probably didn't think Trump had a chance of winning at the time.
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  40. Coemgen says:

    I remember when “frontlash” was called prejudice and it was a “very bad thing.”

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  41. ATTENTION : Tiny Duck gave me permission to post the following in his absence. He has joined the Piece Corpse (Obama Spelling) and gone to Somalia. Parkinson’s Law has left the Piece Corpse and taken an Affirmative Action job in the Philadelphia DA’s Office.

    Face it, Negros. Interloping Africans, who were not born here, are not down with our constant struggle and never will be. No Negro born in the hood would have ever shot across the occupied driver’s side of an automobile at a White woman. That just isn’t good manners or even good street sense. Your average self-respecting Negro would have gotten out of the car first, made the White Bitch kneel down on the hard sidewalk, then given a short speech in memory of The Great Disrupter, H. Rap Brown, and only then put an end to the impromptu but justifiable proceedings by executing the miserable, oppressing White Bitch, flat out! Foreign-born Africans don’t truly know what it’s like to be constantly and consistently oppressed by The Blue-Eyed White Devil from the cradle to the grave. I even saw on BET once how, once upon a time, slave holders would put their slaves into a pig-roaster box and cook innocent Black folks alive for no apparent reason. Trust me, Negroes, PAY BACK is an eternal concept that never dies, wherever and whenever Whitey is concerned!

    We know, my Brothers. OH, YES, WE DO!

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  42. Odd thing with Minnesotan senators is that 4 out of the last 5 have been Jewish. Yet Jews are only 1% of the state. Must be cohenincidence.

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    http://stuffjewishpeoplelove.blogspot.com/2009/09/4-us-senate-class-ii-seat-from.html?m=1

    It's been almost 15 years since Paul Wellstone died in that mysterious plane crash less than two weeks before the election.

    In the aftermath, Walter Mondale, that old goyische justice warrior, lost to Norm Coleman.
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  43. El Dato says:

    Now it is a white woman reportedly shot by a black officer.

    adverb: reportedly – according to what some say (used to express the speaker’s belief that the information given is not necessarily true).

    Get ready for a Big Surprise.

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  44. vinteuil says:
    @Moshe
    Psst. He hates Israelis, hates Jews, and has even been going out of his way for decades to purposely hurt Holocaust Survivors.

    I assume the Israeli part is why you brought his name up. Otherwise, he's a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever. Of course you failed to have noticed that he is a citizen of Palestine. Oh, also that he's living in Germany. Well done!

    “…he’s a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever.”

    Don’t be silly. If there’s anybody who qualifies for the title “eminence grise” in the world of classical music today, it’s Daniel Barenboim. He’s not my cup of tea, either musically or politically. But “totally irrelevant?” – that’s just ridiculous.

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  45. AndrewR says:
    @syonredux

    He hopes the conversation will focus on police reform, not racial stereotypes.
     
    Hey, I'm all for police reform. How about setting 115 as the minimum IQ for being a cop.....

    I think a 90 minimum IQ requirement would keep 95% of Somalis out.

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  46. eah says:
    @Anonymous
    Sixty percent of the working age Somali population in Minneapolis is unemployed. The performance of Officer Noor makes you think we might be better if it was 100%. It's hard to find anything a violent imbecilic ethnic group like Somalis can do without causing harm. Better to keep them 24/7 in front of TV screens in public housing projects and deliver food and toilet paper to their door.

    Sixty percent of the working age Somali population in Minneapolis is unemployed.

    That can’t be right — after all it says right in the article:

    …Twin Cities Somalis, who have worked for decades to become part of the city’s fabric.

    So they are working.

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  47. TheJester says:

    OT – In Today’s Headlines

    Michigan female genital mutilation probe expands to Chicago, LA & NYC

    https://www.rt.com/usa/396733-female-genital-mutilation-probe/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

    ‘Huge increase’ in female genital mutilation in Germany

    https://www.rt.com/news/396743-fgm-estimate-germany-refugees/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

    It’s incredible how diversity and open borders are enriching Western Civilization. I can’t recall we had to deal with these kinds of problems when borders meant something. If curious, we could enrich our minds by reading about them in National Geographic.

    What other cultural peccadillos lurk below the surface in this morass of incompatible cultures, religions, and social practices brought to us by globalization? Now, we don’t have to read about many of them anymore. We can experience them firsthand in our neighborhoods and communities.

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  48. @newrouter
    Where is the photo of this top recruit and Minneapolis top pols? you betcha.

    Minneapolis Mayor Betsy Hodges wrote a lengthy Facebook post after Noor’s hiring in 2015, welcoming him. There was also a reception attended by “hundreds”, but at the moment, this article and photo of him (beneath the point #2 in the article) will have to do:

    https://heavy.com/news/2017/07/mohamed-noor-justine-damond-ruszczyk-minneapolis-police-officer-somali-mohammed/

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  49. @anonymous
    It is perfectly reasonable why most of the world doesn't support a wall on the US-Mexican border. Mexico is the backdoor to gain entry into the USA if the need ever arises. People around the world know that if they ever want to get into the USA, they can always waltz across the border from Mexico if all else fails. Thus, a proper wall or barrier along the US-Mexican border would potentially take away this golden door.

    Thus, a proper wall or barrier along the US-Mexican border would potentially take away this golden door.

    I don’t think the objection is necessarily a practical one – viz, that people outside of Mexico and Central America plan to possibly use our Southern border to come to the U.S.

    Rather, I think it’s the idea that the United States might wake up and quit being the international patsy for the world’s flotsam.

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    Couldn't they just plant a nice long lawn and put up a sign that says Keep Off The Grass?
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  50. dearieme says:

    A cowardly, despicable murder by a US cop? Unheard of!

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  51. @Mr. Blank
    Perhaps some enterprising journalist would enlighten us on why, exactly, there is a huge Somali community in Minnesota, of all places.

    I've never seen this curious fact adequately explained. I doubt the Somalis themselves would have picked Minnesota if it had been up to them, and I can't imagine the white community in Minnesota decided they needed a sudden influx of thousands of Somalis -- not that anyone ever bothered to consult them.

    There is a large contingent of Minnesotans with German and Scandinavian ancestry. There must be a special gene in the German and the Swede that reflexively just rolls over for any Muslim who wants a free ride.

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  52. Arclight says:
    @Buck Turgidson
    Oh yes, the Somalis there in the twin cities definitely are part of the "fabric." They are well known for their hostility, stupidity, leeching off the welfare system, and general overall worthlessness.

    Truth be told, the natives would love to see the lot of them deported en masse -- but are too cowed and beaten down by the media and dem party and Lutheran church -- to complain. Minnesota Nice, dontcha know. I call it Minnesota Stupid.

    Exactly – I have many friends and family in the Twin Cities area, and the one thing they agree on regardless of political outlook is that the Somalis are totally useless people who make no effort to work or integrate at all. The young boys are taught from day one that women are subservient to men so they often do not respect women in any position of authority (like as teachers) and as a group their primary interest is to live off the state. Just another example of what a massive mistake ‘refugee’ resettlement can be, not to mention the FBI’s continued interest in how “Minnesota men” end up traveling abroad to seek training for jihad.

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    City Journal has been doing a pretty good (i.e. unbelievably depressing) job covering the various "Minnesota Nice" disasters:

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/no-thug-left-behind-14951.html
    https://www.city-journal.org/html/curious-case-ilhan-omar-14724.html
    https://www.city-journal.org/html/isis-twin-cities-14593.html
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  53. Escher says:

    And there I was hoping trailblazers like Officer Noor would pave the way for Hollywood to produce movies like “Dirty Haroon”, where a brave Somali policeman bends the rules to catch and kill a racist white psychopath, convincing the townspeople to convert to Islam in the process.

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  54. Altai says:
    @Moshe
    Psst. He hates Israelis, hates Jews, and has even been going out of his way for decades to purposely hurt Holocaust Survivors.

    I assume the Israeli part is why you brought his name up. Otherwise, he's a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever. Of course you failed to have noticed that he is a citizen of Palestine. Oh, also that he's living in Germany. Well done!

    Opposing Occupation == Hating Jews? I don’t see any comments he makes similar to white gentile liberals about how bad his people are. His partner is even an Englishman who converted to Judaism. Seems more like the unhinged Likudniks went after him as part of a zero tolerance policy of any dissent from their ultimately self-destructive agenda. They can’t bridge any high profile Israeli opposition in the West, a very serious threat to narrative control. Since he is a Jew and Israeli they can more easily put social pressure on him to conform, like Goldstone.

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    Perhaps I should have been clearer. Anyhow, I just wrote a comment, that I assume we'll be at the bottom of this thread, that might explain my point more clearly.

    My point relates to Holocaust survivors in large part but also to other matters but, I believe this is the general Viewpoint of most Israelis and most Jews regarding barenboim. He destroys Jews more than he destroy as anybody else.

    Perhaps my point will be ruined by this but you mentioned Likud so I may as well mention that when I was in Israel and very interested in the destiny of Israel and the Jewish people I was far to the right of Likud.

    I assume that you will get some inaccurate information about Menachem Begin but he was, and is, one of my heroes. Like I said, this may make my point in the subsequent post at the bottom of the thread watered down if you consider my personal Viewpoint regarding Israeli politics but, I enjoy the opportunity to speak about the subject that you brought up. I don't fully understand jabotinsky but he is a hero of mine as well. Followed by, Menachem Begin and Peter bergson and the incredible work that they did in both Israel and America. Peter bergson for the record worked with Ben Hecht, someone Steve brought up a number of times in a different context.
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  55. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Dave Pinsen
    There are a lot of annoying things about living where I do, including nosebleed property taxes, in part to pay high police salaries, but one plus is the hiring for police jobs is highly competitive. I can't imagine Mohamed Noor getting a police job here.

    Being a cop in blue-state America is highly compensated. In most cases it blows away getting a STEM degree from a prestigious school. I know a guy who got his B.S., M.S., and Ph.D. in engineering from MIT and after working 30 years at a prestigious Massachusetts lab pulls down $135k. A very good salary and well above the average (even for MA), but nothing compared to a MA State cop who puts in the same hours. And the statie gets a generous pension at an early age.

    It pays to be a cop in a liberal state/area. Here are some California Highway Patrol sergeant salaries (2016): Larren R Nelson ($302k), Daniel S Fugate ($290k), Rogelio Ramos ($289k), Angela R Ditzenberger ($286k), Richard Zavala ($268k)… The CHP has over 900 sergeants. http://www.sacbee.com/site-services/databases/state-pay/article2642161.html#storylink=cpy

    For a young person today, it would be beneficial to join the USAF reserves (for hiring preferences) and then apply to as many police departments as possible. College should be a fall back if you can’t get on a PD.

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  56. Anonym says:
    @Hugh

    Several far-right blogs featured sensational headlines that blamed the officer’s ethnicity, not his training, for the deadly use of force.
     
    Wow! What's officer training based on in the Twin Cities? Terminator 2 reruns?

    Wow! What’s officer training based on in the Twin Cities? Terminator 2 reruns?

    https://youtu.be/BVE-7x9Usvw

    Is this what you mean?

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  57. He and others in the Somali community have protested other police shootings in the Twin Cities region along with Black Lives Matter, but this one “changes the narrative,” he said. Usually, they are protesting the death of black men at the hands of police, he said. Now it is a white woman reportedly shot by a black officer.

    Yes, indeed, consistency would demand that this calls for White Lives Matter protests and excoriation of black police officers, so it “changes the narrative” to one in which race is no longer a factor. Very convenient for those who get to decide what the narrative is.

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    Maybe an "Aussie Lives Matter" protest might thread the needle.
    , @SteveRogers42
    As so many times before, YT is guilty of failing to riot.
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  58. Thea says:

    How did we get a ruling class with such mendacity?

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  59. whorefinder says: • Website

    Affirmative action and mass immigration -in action.

    Funny, if the Somali “community” were acting like decent human beings, they’d be ashamed of this act by one of their own and publicly apologizing and trying to make amends, and wouldn’t mention one iota of blame or apprehension at being stereotyped.

    This is how you know that Somali community isn’t filled with decent human beings.

    The equivalent would be a bunch of Italian Americans of the 1970s worrying about a “backlash” after the another major Mafia kingpin was felled.

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    Funny you should mention that because in NY in the 1970s there was a organization exactly like that (it was named the Italian-American Anti-Defamation League or something like that) and it was (ironically) run by an actual Mafia kingpin (until his assassination at one of their rallies). The rumor was that the other families didn't like the publicity he was bringing to the Mafia by holding rallies denying that the Mafia existed. If you wrote a novel with this plot, no one would believe you.
    , @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    Don't remember any worried Italians in 1970s about Mafioso related backlash, on the contrary, they seemed to gloat about it to the point of annoyance. Of course, that should not stop Somalis from doing collective penance...
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  60. Barnard says:
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    >> Mohamud Noor, who is not related to the officer, is also a city council candidate.

    How would anybody know, even the two Noors themselves? It's not as if anybody in Somalia objects one bit if a man marries his first cousin, and I doubt that any records more than could be retained in memory were or are ever kept. My guess? The two Noors are no more distantly related than second cousins.

    That is a good point. I have heard that many East African refugees use January 1 as their birthday, because they don’t have any birth records and don’t know what month or day they were born. I don’t know how common the last names are, but the only way I would be convinced they aren’t related at least as close as second cousins is if they came from cities in Somalia that are not very close geographically.

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    I have heard that many East African refugees use January 1 as their birthday, because they don’t have any birth records and don’t know what month or day they were born.
     
    If they had any wit, they'd use January 2 to at least sometimes throw the authorities. My sibling's birthdate is actually January 2.

    Think it was Gregory Clark who put it that you can tell the level of illiteracy in a population mathematically by counting the total of those giving their age at numbers ending in '5' or '0' above the rates normally in a population.

    Somalis giving their birthdates as January 1 in large numbers sounds worse in terms of literacy than Clark's formula.
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  61. @Moshe
    Quality Stuff.

    Off Topic but Awesome:

    PEW wants to shame us into opposing The Great American Wall as you would shame a child.

    Apparently they asked people around the world what they felt ABOUT A WALL DIVIDING MEXICO FROM THE USA because, of course, as undocumented citizens-to-be it's only right that we don't run roughshod over their preferences regarding our nation's policies...

    https://mobile.twitter.com/pewresearch/status/886888513584680960/photo/1

    Spain, Sweden, Germany, Netherlands, Columbia and...Mexico do not support our imaginaru wall at all. Single digits.

    I don't know the level of American support but let's say 35%.

    A few citizenries (surprisingly) support our wall at least that much (not that we damn well need them to, but it's interesting)

    Hungary - yeah, they're on Team Trump (Voters)

    Russia - kinna ditto

    Vietnam - ¿¿Thoughts??

    Jordan -- I know something about Jordan and I don't understand this number, unless PEW outsourced their polling work to the palace

    Israel - contrary to popular opinion Israelis in Israel aren't very hypocritical

    Nigeria - Africans don't want Mexicans cutting in line but also Nigerians, for Christian and other reasons seem to like/respect us

    Come to think of it, 35% of a foreign country's subjects supporting one of our "extremist" and nativist policies should actually be the lead.

    As you can see in the link (and the related study) PEW chose a different headline.

    I personally believe we shouldn't move forward on the wall until we know where Afghanis and Iranians stand. I couldn't live with myself if we first build a wall only to find out when it's done that the denizens of Kandahar and Qom opposed it all along.

    PEW wants to shame us into opposing The Great American Wall as you would shame a child.

    Apparently they asked people around the world what they felt ABOUT A WALL DIVIDING MEXICO FROM THE USA[...]

    https://mobile.twitter.com/pewresearch/status/886888513584680960/photo/1

    Spain, Sweden, Germany, Netherlands, Columbia and…Mexico do not support our imaginaru wall at all. Single digits.

    Better poll questions:
    - How do you feel about border walls blocking migrants in Israel, Jordan, or Saudi Arabia?
    - How do you feel about brutal treatment towards undocumented immigrants in Mexico?
    - How do you feel about Japan’s preference to stay ethnically Japanese and restrict immigration to facilitate this?
    - How do you feel about Emma Lazarus’s support for an ethnically exclusive Jewish state that welcomes Jews and only Jews?
    - How do you feel about highly selective high skill immigration system of Canada? They have approximately the same number of recent immigrants speaking Italian or German as they do Spanish. Would it be immoral for US to adopt the same model?
    - How do you feel about the Chinese viewpoint that their ethnic group is special and more important than other ethnic groups? Is this racist? Is there a group on Earth that isn’t racist in this way?

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  62. Mr. Anon says:
    @Moshe
    Psst. He hates Israelis, hates Jews, and has even been going out of his way for decades to purposely hurt Holocaust Survivors.

    I assume the Israeli part is why you brought his name up. Otherwise, he's a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever. Of course you failed to have noticed that he is a citizen of Palestine. Oh, also that he's living in Germany. Well done!

    I assume the Israeli part is why you brought his name up.

    No, I assume the fact that he is a Jew is why YetAnotherAnon brought it up – the fact that many Jews seem to feel the need, and assume the right, to lecture people about “what X (country) is all about”. And “what country X is all about” inevitably leads to the dissolution of the historic population of country X.

    Otherwise, he’s a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever.

    I thought the jewish people were a Light unto the World because of all the talented and accomplished people they produce – people like Daniel Barenboim, who certainly qualifies as talented and accomplished. So, are the only ones who are relevant, and not “of no importance whatsoever”, the finaniciers, schemers, and pornographers?

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    the fact that many Jews seem to feel the need, and assume the right, to lecture people about “what X (country) is all about”. And “what country X is all about” inevitably leads to the dissolution of the historic population of country X.
     
    There is a lot of information in this thread to the effect that Lutherans and Catholics and not Jews were the ones most responsible for bringing large #s of Somalis to the Twin Cities area. Do you feel the same about these groups or only Jews?

    Are Jews not part of the "historic population" of America or the West in general? Do they not have the right to express their views to the same extent as other American citizens of "historic stock"? If not, which groups are entitled to speak for "real" Americans? What if your ancestors came from Germany in the early 19th century? Do you also have to keep your mouth shut? Lutherans have only been around since 1521 but there have been Jews in the West since Roman times.
    , @Corvinus
    "No, I assume the fact that he is a Jew is why YetAnotherAnon brought it up – the fact that many Jews seem to feel the need, and assume the right, to lecture people about “what X (country) is all about”. And “what country X is all about” inevitably leads to the dissolution of the historic population of country X."

    Ironic, considering you are compelled to demand that people know what America is supposedly about, and that anyone who deviates from it is partaking from genocide. And, what about those tribal groups who heard the same message from Europeans. Did not they "lecture" Indians (feather, not dot)? Did not European actions lead to the "dissolution of the historic population of North/South America"?
    , @Moshe
    It turns out that he says that he only meant that the man is a hypocrite in some fashion.

    But yes, I meant Jew, Israeli was just more specific in his case which is why I mentioned it.

    In any case, my point is that he hates Jews and attempts to hurt Jews more than almost everybody on the alt right. In fact, apparently he's a citizen of Palestine. I've known of the man for a decade-and-a-half and trust me whatever damage he wants to do two European countries he wants to do, has attempted to do, and has in part succeeded in doing against Israel, and the Jewish people writ large. Nothing says it more clearly than his awesome interest in sparking horrific PTSD against literal Holocaust Survivors. I personally have no problem with Wagner but apparently it was played in certain camps as Jews were selected for death so obviously plenty of Holocaust Survivors and Israel have a big problem hearing it. Apparently, barenboim, said that he would not play it in one of his concerts and then snuck it in anyway, despite the presence of Holocaust Survivors. I agree with you of course that just as with most people, there are Jews who are shit. Even more so. On account of the fact that Jews are clearly more capable than any other tribe of people, those who do damage are more effective at it. My point with barenboim was only that whatever harm he wishes to do to Non-Jews, he wishes to do, is trying to do and has done more to Jews.
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  63. The Z Blog says: • Website

    “They fear this will be just another event used to create animosity toward the Somali community,” Mohamud Noor, executive director at the Confederation of Somali Community in Minnesota, told The Post.

    One thing that seems to go unmentioned is the rich imagination of our Prog rulers. They have invented these colorful histories in support of the current narrative. Mud (his friends call him Mud) Noor is convinced that he and his fellow tribesman have been subject to endless pogroms from the local squareheads.

    There’s no reasoning with people who are endlessly inventing crimes you committed that they must avenge. It’s what makes the alt-right attractive to increasing numbers of people. They reject prog morality and they have no interest in debating this stuff. The whole Noor tribe needs to go back.

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  64. Mr. Anon says:
    @Mr. Blank
    Perhaps some enterprising journalist would enlighten us on why, exactly, there is a huge Somali community in Minnesota, of all places.

    I've never seen this curious fact adequately explained. I doubt the Somalis themselves would have picked Minnesota if it had been up to them, and I can't imagine the white community in Minnesota decided they needed a sudden influx of thousands of Somalis -- not that anyone ever bothered to consult them.

    There are also large populations of Somalis in Maine and in the Puget Sound. What Maine, Minnesota, and Washington have in common are the presence of numerous liberal do-gooder groups, whose idea of charity is to dump refugees off on the local welfare system, the liberality of local governments when it comes to welfare and “social services”, and the fact that those places were relatively white. The latter is not the least consideration. They were white places that needed to be browned, as somebody saw it. There shall not be permitted to exist any place that is overwhelmingly white.

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    Somali refugees have been settled in a lot of different states, Ohio, home to the stabby Somali at Ohio St., has a large group as well. The NGOs affiliated with the Lutheran Church have been responsible for some of this with help from the Federal government. It is not exclusively about browning white places, much of the resettlement has happened in cities. There is a list at the end of this article with the top ten locations for resettlement.

    https://cis.org/Rush/Somali-Refugees-US
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  65. Mr. Anon says:

    As an aside, I read in one of the articles on this crime that the poor murdered woman’s bereaved fiance is a casino manager. It’s strange what people do for a living nowadays. Forty-four years ago, when Time ran a cover-story about

    The Good Life in Minnesota

    I don’t imagine there were too many casinos in the Twin Cities area.

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    there weren't. little six, which the husband-to-be manages, was the first opened within shouting distance of the metro area, and it was originally only bingo. the affiliated and nearby mystic lake was the first full-blown casino operation, and there have since been a few more (including some racinos, once the sioux monopoly was broken to some degree).

    worth noting, though, that the twin cities has more of a native population than comparable metro areas. the major gambling is still affiliated with them.

    , @Jack D
    In keeping with the idea that Indian reservations are "sovereign nations", they were allowed to set their own rules for whether they would permit gambling casinos within their boundaries as a matter of Federal law. So regardless of whether your state prohibited gambling (most did) if it had any Indian reservations it was going to get gambling. If your state was lacking in recognized tribes within driving distance of big cities, the casino interests (the real brains behind this) would help you to organize a tribe. Here are three typical Mashantucket Pequot princesses, for example:

    https://indiancountrymedianetwork.com/images/jpg/p/pequot-nation-royalty.jpg

    Under the rules of PC, no one is allowed to snicker at their claims of being Indian - if chicks can have dicks, then gingers and blacks can be "Indians" too (but don't go claiming that you are black, Rachel).


    After a while many states got sick of the racket and decided that they wanted in on the revenue and permitted gambling everywhere.
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  66. @Veracitor
    Love that WaPo photo! Three white guys (one young and somber), but no Somalis (especially not the preferentially-hired Somali police officer who shot the woman for no apparent reason). The cutline tells us who they are-- relatives of the slain woman (probably we should call her "the victim" now, since the police haven't accused her of any misconduct)-- but the headline suggests the folks in the photo are expressing concerns for the "Somali community," which is pretty insulting, or that they're inflicting "backlash," which is even more insulting.

    Bezos seems to be using the Washington Post to carry out an experiment in screaming yellow journalism such as America hasn't seen in a century or longer.

    I’m wondering who even reads WaPo or NYT anymore besides bien pensant liberals who want their ridiculous worldview confirmed and right-wing bloggers who want something to ridicule. I was never a WaPo reader and by 2002 I had had my fill of the Gray Lady’s smug sanctimony and tendentious reporting.

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  67. For the most part, the Somalis here in Minnesota are shy dorks just like the native Scandihoovians. They are typically a two-parent family and so their kids are just as well-behaved and affable as the usual white kids. You’d take a Somali family next door before you’d want the ‘refugees’ from Chicago or Gary. You can easily distinguish a Somali boy from a black American not just by their slender build, but by the lack of an ‘attitude’ in their walk.

    So, the Somalis are not inherently troublesome at least not the 15,000 or so in St. Cloud. The Minneapolis Somalis who are about 40,000 strong have learned to ‘gang-up’ and commit crimes including assaults and robberies.

    You won’t find a medical waiting room in the Twin Cities or St Cloud that doesn’t have an excess of Somalis. The Somalis have definitely learned to exploit social services and thanks to CAIR riling them up, they will become SJWs in the next generation. Except for the precocious St Cloud mall stabber, the Somalis don’t quite have their Irish up enough to cause havoc.

    It is our institutional leaders who are positively arthritic with political correctness who are the greatest danger. As the Mohamed Noor situation illustrates, our government is so intent on filling racial and ethnic quotas that they will hire cops that discharge their weapons when startled. Affirmative action may bring us the indescribable benefits of diversity, but in this case it brings death as well.

    So that is the bargain we must broker. We must tolerate unnecessary deaths and inefficiencies in order to reap the super-terrific benefits that racial extortionists are coercing.

    I’m so proud of our leaders.

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    So, the Somalis are not inherently troublesome at least not the 15,000 or so in St. Cloud. The Minneapolis Somalis who are about 40,000 strong have learned to ‘gang-up’ and commit crimes including assaults and robberies.

    Wait a minute. So the population of 15,000 is OK, but the population of 40,000 is a problem.

    That sounds to me like a problem, overall.
    , @jim jones
    Somalis can be identified by their characteristic "lightbulb head":

    http://imgur.com/a/rHfhG
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  68. The government thug Noor is refusing to talk to state investigators. Sure, that is his right under the Fifth Amendment. But any government employee who claims Fifth Amendment protections should automatically lose their job. If you commit an act that you cannot freely testify about, then you should not continue to hold government employment. I don’t care if they are the dog catcher, street sweeper, cop, or a cabinet level Federal employee.

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  69. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    'Analysis of Washington Post police-shootings data reveals nearly 2x more whites than blacks shot by police'

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07/18/analysis-of-washington-post-police-shootings-data-reveals-surprising-result/

    That would be impressive were it not for the fact that there are six times as many whites as blacks.

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    What you say would be impressive if blacks didn't commit at least 50% of violent crime. I have a generally low opinion of cops, but even I don't think they just go around shooting people at random. If we looked at all the cases of those shot by police, I'm pretty sure most of them were engaged in serious anti-social behavior.
    , @ben tillman

    That would be impressive were it not for the fact that there are six times as many whites as blacks.
     
    Four-and-a-half times as many.
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  70. @Harry Baldwin
    He and others in the Somali community have protested other police shootings in the Twin Cities region along with Black Lives Matter, but this one “changes the narrative,” he said. Usually, they are protesting the death of black men at the hands of police, he said. Now it is a white woman reportedly shot by a black officer.

    Yes, indeed, consistency would demand that this calls for White Lives Matter protests and excoriation of black police officers, so it "changes the narrative" to one in which race is no longer a factor. Very convenient for those who get to decide what the narrative is.

    Maybe an “Aussie Lives Matter” protest might thread the needle.

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  71. Moshe says:
    @Pat Hannagan
    He hates Israelis, hates Jews...

    That's not the Daniel Barenboim I know:

    My Land, My Pain

    Yes, the Jews had a right to their own state, and they had a right to this state. This demand was made even stronger by the Holocaust and the guilt of the Europeans after 1945.

    ...


    For many years now I have not lived in Israel, and I am very conscious of my outsider's perspective. Sometimes people ask me, "what is a Jew?" The answer is the following: A Jew who has anti-Semitic experiences in Berlin in 2008 is different from the Jew who had anti-Semitic experiences in 1940. The Jew of 1940 felt threatened; the Jew of today can think of his own land, of Israel.


    Just like every other Jew Daniel Barenboim has his own opinion on what's good for Jews and is prepared to debate it ad nauseam with other Jews.

    Otherwise, he’s a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever.

    That's not true either.

    Here's a brilliant rendition of Tchaikovsky's Symphony No. 4 (Barenboim actually looks and acts a hell of a lot like my dad in this):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLHj-eekdNU

    Yes, he has opinions about what is good for the Jews. Lots of Jew haters have had such opinions over the centuries. Bear in mind, you don’t get Palestinian citizenship, or decide to get up and move to Germany or go out of your way to PTSD Holocaust Survivors because you care so much about your fellow Jews.

    Anyhow he’s human garbage

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  72. Moshe says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    He's a hypocrite. Of his four passports, only Spain has little in the way of border control. He's also bloody ill-mannered, coming to the Proms as an honoured guest, slagging off his hosts for not voting the way he'd like, and implying it's because of poor education.

    I don’t follow him but what I have heard I have not cared for.

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  73. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/wealthy-minnesota-school-district-treating-its-students-racists

    Wealthy Minnesota School District Treating Its Students Like Racists

    …At Edina’s Highlands Elementary this past year, students—even kindergartners and first-graders—were made to participate in a number of projects designed to teach them about their racial privilege and encourage them to become activists.

    I had my suspicions why a school district would deem it necessary to subject kindergartners to such a curriculum, and to teach them to view the world primarily through the lens of race…

    I have as much hope for Minnesota as I due for the native lands of white Minnesotans.

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  74. Jack D says:

    He hopes the conversation will focus on police reform, not racial stereotypes.

    Exactly. This is why the political movement against unnecessary police shootings is called “Police Reform Matters”. Because the important issue is the sometimes trigger happy actions of the police, not their race or the race of the victims.

    Oops, no wait, it is called BLACK Lives Matter. I sense a certain amount of inconsistency here, depending on whose ox is being gored. Or as Steve (and Lenin) say “Who-whom?”

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  75. Jack D says:
    @Daniel H
    >> Mohamud Noor, who is not related to the officer, is also a city council candidate.

    How would anybody know, even the two Noors themselves? It's not as if anybody in Somalia objects one bit if a man marries his first cousin, and I doubt that any records more than could be retained in memory were or are ever kept. My guess? The two Noors are no more distantly related than second cousins.

    What are the odds that two white men named John Smith or Tom Johnson are related?

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    A worthwhile point, but your analogy does not really hold up to inspection. The Noors are both in the same moderate sized city and part of a minority community which only arrived a generation or two ago from the same country (population 11 million).

    - How many Somalis are there in Minneapolis?
    - How many are named Noor?
    - How focused geographically is the source of these immigrants in Somalia?
    - How family based is Somalian immigration to Minnesota?

    It would be interesting to have an over-under bet on what level of cousins they are. FWIW I would not consider further than about third cousin to be "related" in the sense usually meant.
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  76. CCZ says:

    Not until 1:42 minutes into the news report does the reporter note that the fight was between black (American) students 22% of school and Somali students 8% of school. This is a “diverse” Minnesota high school, multi-culturalism at its best.

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    Wait, what the... ? It was the Somali-Americans against the African-Americans? Who the hell's from Africa anyway. The American black people probably cannot find Africa on a globe, and the Somalian black people are from there and probably can't find America or Somalia on the map. It's not just the stifling of free speech that is the problem with PC, but the complete fucking confusion caused by the stupid terms they come up with!

    Then, the black spokesman or principal (who knows?) says "Yeah, South High is a safe school. Did it have an unfortunate, awful situation today? Absolutely." What a quote that is. "Yeah, the Japanese government is friends with the United States. Did they make an unfortunate bombing and strafing attach on our base in Pearl Harbor? Absolutely."

    Also, would cops have come in and tear-gassed a food fight back in the 1970's? This country has truly started to suck.

    The only thing sane in the video is the woman reporter out in the cold, with the big warm hat. She could play a part in Fargo 2 - The Wood Chipper strikes Back.
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  77. Jack D says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    There are a lot of annoying things about living where I do, including nosebleed property taxes, in part to pay high police salaries, but one plus is the hiring for police jobs is highly competitive. I can't imagine Mohamed Noor getting a police job here.

    If where you lived had a large black or Somali population there would be political pressure to have the police force “reflect the community” and maybe anti-discrimination lawsuits from the (Obama) Dept. of Justice if you had a qualification test that was not easy enough for low IQ blacks to pass. Don’t imagine that you are immune just because you are living in some whitopia suburb – it’s only a matter of time before the Eye of Soros turns its gaze on your community. The people of Ferguson once thought they were immune too.

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    This ain't no whitopia.
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  78. bomag says:
    @Wilkey
    Sixty percent of the working age Somali population in Minneapolis is unemployed. The performance of Officer Noor makes you think we might be better if it was 100%. It’s hard to find anything a violent imbecilic ethnic group like Somalis can do without causing harm. Better to keep them 24/7 in front of TV screens in public housing projects and deliver food and toilet paper to their door.

    While they multiply like tribbles.

    Here's an Economist article about Somali immigrants in the United Kingdom, though it could really be about Somali immigrants anywhere.

    Some bullet points:

    1) Somali workforce participation (~30%) is less than half that of Kiwi, Polish, and Lithuanian immigrants (all at around 80%)

    2) "Most Somalis—Britain’s largest refugee population—do not work. They are among the poorest, worst-educated and least-employed in Britain."

    3) Over 80% of Somali-speaking pupils qualify for free school meals.

    4) In Waltham Forest, a borough in east London, home to nearly 4,000 Somalis, 73% live in households on benefits.

    5) More than 50% of British Somalis rent from local councils, the highest proportion of any foreign-born population.

    6) In nearby Tower Hamlets 2010 data showed that Somalis were twice as likely as white Britons to be behind with the rent.

    7) Just one in ten [British Somalis] is in full-time work.

    8) Many Somali households are headed by women who came to Britain without their husbands. [Yet somehow they manage to keep reproducing at rates far faster than native Britons.]

    9) This cocktail of poverty and unemployment dogs Somalis elsewhere too. In 2009 they were the least-employed group in Denmark. [Oh wait, so Somali immigrants have lousy outcomes in Denmark, too! And in Norway! And in Sweden! And in the US! It's almost as if it has nothing whatsoever to do with those "racist pigs" in the receiving countries and everything to do with Somalis themselves.]

    Just one in ten [British Somalis] is in full-time work

    I’m wondering if they are doing anything useful.

    This non-performing cohort excites our opinion forming class a little too much: they just see all the big gains to be had when the deplorables train the non-performers to maintain the electric grid and solve hard problems in algebraic geometry.

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  79. @Mr. Anon
    As an aside, I read in one of the articles on this crime that the poor murdered woman's bereaved fiance is a casino manager. It's strange what people do for a living nowadays. Forty-four years ago, when Time ran a cover-story about

    The Good Life in Minnesota

    I don't imagine there were too many casinos in the Twin Cities area.

    there weren’t. little six, which the husband-to-be manages, was the first opened within shouting distance of the metro area, and it was originally only bingo. the affiliated and nearby mystic lake was the first full-blown casino operation, and there have since been a few more (including some racinos, once the sioux monopoly was broken to some degree).

    worth noting, though, that the twin cities has more of a native population than comparable metro areas. the major gambling is still affiliated with them.

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  80. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous
    I'd bet that by this point Bezos could get some AI to write at least a passable version of these stories. But you probably don't even need AI, just some randomizer with a few variables filled in. "Already (far-right|alt-right|extremist) (blogs|forums|message boards) are (spewing vitriol|creating fear|producing hate speech) directed at the X community..." He could fire some writers and offer them jobs in the warehouse. Win/win for him, as he already knows they'll do anything for money. Clever guy.

    Apparently there are already bots that write up simple sports stories based on box scores. Actually this is not new in a way. Back in the day, local radio announcers used to give “live play by play” of away games based only on a cryptic ticker tape telegraph feed. 12 S, B, S, B, B, etc. The announcer had to invent the “color” on his own – B = “Rodgers, the pitcher, is sweating profusely and mopping his brow in the afternoon sun. He fakes a throw to 1st and the runner Jones rushes back to his base. He throws and the pitch to Gergenberger is high and inside for a ball.”

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    Reagan did that in his early radio days.
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  81. AM says:
    @Olorin
    The one-word answer:

    Lutherans.


    LSS Refugee Services began operating in the mid-1970’s in response to the crisis occurring in Southeast Asia. Refugees started to arrive in Minnesota from countries such as Cambodia, Vietnam, and Laos. During the 1980’s, LSS Refugee Services continued to resettle refugees from Asia, as well as countries such as Ethiopia. During the 1990’s and into the twenty-first century, conflicts in East and West Africa and the changing political situations in Eastern Europe brought refugees from these regions into Minnesota.

    As it has in the past, LSS Refugee Services continues to play an instrumental role in assisting refugees from around the world start their new lives in Minnesota.

    http://unitedwayhelps.galaxydigital.com/volunteer/agency/display/lutheran-social-service-of-minnesota--refugee-services/?agency_id=39018
     

    Location of the national headquarters of Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services?

    Baltimore.

    http://lirs.org/locations/

    See page 2 of their Form 990, item #1, for their assertion that God supports white genocide as he pours nearly $60 million in their coffers so they can "transform communities" through "migrants and refugees."

    http://lirs.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Form-990-2015-Final.pdf

    Note also the plump salaries of its executives. Page 8, Part VII.

    LIRS partners with Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota.

    http://www.lssmn.org/AndWhoIsMyNeighbor/

    My Neighbor Is Muslim
    http://www.lssmn.org/refugeeservices/study/

    Now I'm focusing on the Looterans because Officer al-Shooty bin BangBang took his much-reported college degree from Augsburg College--a private Looteran (ELCA for those keeping splinter group score) diploma mill in the most Third World part of Mpls.

    It appears to specialize in pushing brown people through and getting them positioned to feed at the affirmative action trough while displacing native-born and founding-stock Americans. Its student body is 42 percent nonwhite (Mpls is 26 percent nonwhite, and Minnesota, 23 percent) and they receive hefty amounts of grant bling from the Lutherans to attend this surprisingly pricey institution.

    So I figure the Loots were instrumental in foisting him upon the city and arming him.

    But there are other religious refugee resettlement organizations with a lot of power and money in MN as well:

    http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/idepc/refugee/topics/resettlement.html

    The Catlicks even illustrate their home page with a Muzzie family with, at the time of photo, three offspring of elementary school age.

    https://www.cctwincities.org/locations/refugee-reception-placement/

    According to Pew Research, Minneapolis's population is 70% Christian with Protestants at about 2:1 over Catlicks. I seem to recall that Catlicks comprise Minnesota's largest religious affiliation with ELCA running second by about half a million.

    And trads/neoTrads wonder why some of us have such antipathy to the Rabbi On A Stick cults that invaded the North a millennium ago...and never stop trying to vanquish us and our ancestors and descendants with new invaders.

    And trads/neoTrads wonder why some of us have such antipathy to the Rabbi On A Stick cults that invaded the North a millennium ago…and never stop trying to vanquish us and our ancestors and descendants with new invaders.

    In real life, pagans are worst on the whole multiculturalism shtick. Dare you to join any formal pagan/Wiccan society and start talking anyone does on iSteve. You’d be gone faster than you could say “drum circle”

    You know why many pagans converted voluntarily? Because it was obvious to them these Christian soldiers/princes were much more powerful they were and wanted in. Even after the Japanese kicked out Christian missionaries, samurais would put images of Christ within their swords I believe, believing in it’s power. It’s performance art how alt-right pagan LARPers belly ache about being conquered by Christians for millennia but somehow they’re going to save us all. Right.

    I’m not arguing about the corruption of cucked church administrations, those are facts that have more to with modernity than the religions themselves.

    But frankly, these arrogant and ill-educated posts are just SJW stuff in a different direction. Keep emoting and LARPing. I’m sure you’re helping.

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    Pagan converts (and phony neo-pagans) were and are just following the $ (or backing the "strong horse" in Bin Laden's terminology). Back in the day, light skinned blacks would "cross the color line" and pretend to be white (because that's where the $/societal advantages were) but now you have whites pretending to be black or Indian. So the fact that people like Olorin whose ancestors have been Christians for 1,000 plus years are claiming to be pagans tells you who the strong horse is now.
    , @Olorin
    I'll note for anyone who might be taking your shadow-boxing spittlestorm seriously:

    I am not a pagan, not a Wiccan, and not emoting.

    My heart on this topic is as cold as akkvavit, in part thanks to genes (not something you apparently comprehend), in part thanks to experience.

    Cucked and femmey religionists can go pound lubber sand up the orifice where you take invaders' faiths and plead for more. The costs of your beliefs and of your admitted thirst for petty power as retainers to princes are visible to anyone who puts on the glasses.

    Like how this good-kind-of-immigrant white lady shot in the face by a church-pet Somali, and the destruction of her family, will mean many inexplicably, baldly, double down on your precious churches and their VOLAG leader ladies who make $300,000 a year for literally preaching white genocide in the name of God.

    Here it is, right in their own words and their caps, from LISS's Form 990:

    WITNESSING TO GOD'S LOVE FOR ALL PEOPLE, WE STAND WITH AND ADVOCATE FOR MIGRANTS AND REFUGEES, TRANSFORMING COMMUNITIES THROUGH MINISTRIES OF SERVICE AND JUSTICE.
     
    "Transforming communities"? Mission accomplished, I'd say:





    From 1960--when Minneapolis was 95% white--to 2010, when it was made over into a 64% white city, the city lost about a quarter of its residents.

    In that time 30 mosques were built, 30,000 Somalis were brought in (by the Lutherans and Catholics), also 40,000 Latinos, 10,000 Hmong, 70,000 blacks…and the queers today brag that its population is over 15% queer.

    This is the new City of God, according to our Christian Princes of the Current Year.

    Most of whom are, in fact, churchy-careerist women.

    The ELCA college that Noor attended lists as its mission, on its own Web site:

    The Augsburg experience is supported by an engaged community that is committed to intentional diversity in its life and work.
     
    Read that again. COMMITTED TO INTENTIONAL DIVERSITY. Not to civilization. Not to the west. Not to the cultivation and expansion of human knowledge. Not even, for the love of lefse, to Jesus.

    In 1962 that college's sponsoring Lutheran church--in the college's words--redefined its mission as serving "the good of society first" and the church itself second.

    What was in the wings at that time, and was formalized not long after?

    The "Civil Rights" Act of 1964, which assembled trillions of dollars over half a century to wage genetic, economic, social, and cultural war on white Americans and their civilization. And gender war on white American men. And create big fat political and NGO careers for the Christian (etc.) Prince(sse)s.

    Our current situation of white replacement and resultant destruction of civilization owes in large part to white Christians cucking for the big-city bolshie program of "diversity."

    It has nothing to do with faith, even less to do with the almighty, and everything to do with money, power, and ego.

    So maybe--just maybe--at some point--whites can start questioning what Christianity brought to the North.

    Which you admit, indirectly, is cucking, weakness, and the feminine as the organizing nexus of society.

    Just one last thing. If you think the Wiccans are PC, you should sometime try a Sons of Norway or Knights of Columbus meeting.
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  82. res says:
    @Jack D
    What are the odds that two white men named John Smith or Tom Johnson are related?

    A worthwhile point, but your analogy does not really hold up to inspection. The Noors are both in the same moderate sized city and part of a minority community which only arrived a generation or two ago from the same country (population 11 million).

    - How many Somalis are there in Minneapolis?
    - How many are named Noor?
    - How focused geographically is the source of these immigrants in Somalia?
    - How family based is Somalian immigration to Minnesota?

    It would be interesting to have an over-under bet on what level of cousins they are. FWIW I would not consider further than about third cousin to be “related” in the sense usually meant.

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  83. Barnard says:
    @Mr. Anon
    There are also large populations of Somalis in Maine and in the Puget Sound. What Maine, Minnesota, and Washington have in common are the presence of numerous liberal do-gooder groups, whose idea of charity is to dump refugees off on the local welfare system, the liberality of local governments when it comes to welfare and "social services", and the fact that those places were relatively white. The latter is not the least consideration. They were white places that needed to be browned, as somebody saw it. There shall not be permitted to exist any place that is overwhelmingly white.

    Somali refugees have been settled in a lot of different states, Ohio, home to the stabby Somali at Ohio St., has a large group as well. The NGOs affiliated with the Lutheran Church have been responsible for some of this with help from the Federal government. It is not exclusively about browning white places, much of the resettlement has happened in cities. There is a list at the end of this article with the top ten locations for resettlement.

    https://cis.org/Rush/Somali-Refugees-US

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    CIS totally missed the 10,000 Somalis in Maine. From Wikipedia (and confirmed by a friend in Lewiston, Maine):

    "Somalis are an ethnic group in Maine. As of 2013, there were around 10,000 Somalis in Lewiston and Portland."

    Maine, "whitest" state in the USA. I think 5,000 in Lewiston and 5,000 in Portland qualifies for "browning" the population.
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  84. I would not be surprised if it turns out that this “officer” was playing with his gun and it went off by accident. Not only did he shoot an innocent citizen, but apparently discharged his pistol in such a way that the bullet’s path was just a few inches in front of his partner. This does not impress me as a normal defensive situation.

    Many policemen are shockingly ill-trained and lacking in proficiency with firearms. I am aware of two cases of accidental discharge of firearms by police in one relatively small city within the week after new service pistols were issued to the force. One put a bullet through the door of his patrol car, and the other shot himself in the buttock.

    This is the raison d’être for the double-action-only semiautomatic pistol. The long and relatively heavy trigger pull makes such a weapon difficult to fire accidentally. Unfortunately it also makes it more difficult to fire accurately. DA-only pistols are disproportionately sold to law enforcement agencies because they are believed to be safer. Of course, no such “safety features” do any good if the weapon is placed in the hands of a person unfit to do the job.

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    The latest reports are that Noor may have been startled by the sound of fireworks going off. In addition to the factors that you list, he apparently fired only one bullet which is also indicative of "accidental" discharge. Usually if the cops intend to shoot someone they fire their guns multiple times. Accident in scary quotes because as you say police weapons do not have hair triggers.

    Many years ago when a parent was ill, we shared a long night in a the hospital waiting room with the family of a cop who had supposedly shot himself while cleaning his weapon (at least that was the story at the time - now that I am older and wiser I wonder if it could have been a cover story for attempted suicide).
    , @Mr. Rational

    I would not be surprised if it turns out that this “officer” was playing with his gun and it went off by accident.
     
    Contrary to what Jack D wrote, I've read that Noor fired multiple shots.  News stories seem to have been updated, because those which were linked as saying this no longer do.

    He should have been canned for even having un-holstered his weapon.  His whole clan should be sent back, and his prison sentence should be followed by deportation also.
    , @JimB
    Noor is not cooperating with the external investigation, which is appalling. He should be immediately fired from the MPD and charged. The circumstantial evidence is good for at least a reckless endangerment charge for nearly killing his partner.
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  85. BenjaminL says:
    @Arclight
    Exactly - I have many friends and family in the Twin Cities area, and the one thing they agree on regardless of political outlook is that the Somalis are totally useless people who make no effort to work or integrate at all. The young boys are taught from day one that women are subservient to men so they often do not respect women in any position of authority (like as teachers) and as a group their primary interest is to live off the state. Just another example of what a massive mistake 'refugee' resettlement can be, not to mention the FBI's continued interest in how "Minnesota men" end up traveling abroad to seek training for jihad.

    City Journal has been doing a pretty good (i.e. unbelievably depressing) job covering the various “Minnesota Nice” disasters:

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/no-thug-left-behind-14951.html

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/curious-case-ilhan-omar-14724.html

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/isis-twin-cities-14593.html

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    Out, out, out!
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  86. CCZ says:
    @Barnard
    Somali refugees have been settled in a lot of different states, Ohio, home to the stabby Somali at Ohio St., has a large group as well. The NGOs affiliated with the Lutheran Church have been responsible for some of this with help from the Federal government. It is not exclusively about browning white places, much of the resettlement has happened in cities. There is a list at the end of this article with the top ten locations for resettlement.

    https://cis.org/Rush/Somali-Refugees-US

    CIS totally missed the 10,000 Somalis in Maine. From Wikipedia (and confirmed by a friend in Lewiston, Maine):

    “Somalis are an ethnic group in Maine. As of 2013, there were around 10,000 Somalis in Lewiston and Portland.”

    Maine, “whitest” state in the USA. I think 5,000 in Lewiston and 5,000 in Portland qualifies for “browning” the population.

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  87. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Hugh

    Several far-right blogs featured sensational headlines that blamed the officer’s ethnicity, not his training, for the deadly use of force.
     
    Wow! What's officer training based on in the Twin Cities? Terminator 2 reruns?

    No policeman or armed individual with half a brain would fire a gun from the passenger side of a vehicle into the door of the driver unless they were high as a kite or trying to kill the driver.

    Police training, my ass. Somalis are imbeciles. Mohamed Noor is exhibit A. I’m surprised his stunned partner driving the car didn’t pull out his gun and shoot this idiot dead in self defense.

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  88. Discussion on Democratic Underground Late Breaking News:

    Australian woman killed in police shooting in Minneapolis: UPDATE

    https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141822113

    Searching for “immigrant”, “refugee” or “Somali” turns up nothing.

    “Muslim” is mentioned twice

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  89. fnn says:
    @Anon
    That would be impressive were it not for the fact that there are six times as many whites as blacks.

    What you say would be impressive if blacks didn’t commit at least 50% of violent crime. I have a generally low opinion of cops, but even I don’t think they just go around shooting people at random. If we looked at all the cases of those shot by police, I’m pretty sure most of them were engaged in serious anti-social behavior.

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    Way to miss the point.
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  90. @Jack D
    Apparently there are already bots that write up simple sports stories based on box scores. Actually this is not new in a way. Back in the day, local radio announcers used to give "live play by play" of away games based only on a cryptic ticker tape telegraph feed. 12 S, B, S, B, B, etc. The announcer had to invent the "color" on his own - B = "Rodgers, the pitcher, is sweating profusely and mopping his brow in the afternoon sun. He fakes a throw to 1st and the runner Jones rushes back to his base. He throws and the pitch to Gergenberger is high and inside for a ball."

    Reagan did that in his early radio days.

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  91. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Speaking of training or lack of training among our diverse law enforcement officials, this video takes the cake. This man is giving a lecture to a class on gun safety and accidentally shoots himself!

    I must admit he does show remarkable composure. After shooting himself he calmly carries on and doesn’t seek immediate medical attention. This guy is hardcore on his threshold of pain.

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    In LEO circles this guy is always held up as the guy you do not want to be.

    He ended up suing the DEA because this video got out there.
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  92. Jack D says:
    @whorefinder
    Affirmative action and mass immigration -in action.

    Funny, if the Somali "community" were acting like decent human beings, they'd be ashamed of this act by one of their own and publicly apologizing and trying to make amends, and wouldn't mention one iota of blame or apprehension at being stereotyped.

    This is how you know that Somali community isn't filled with decent human beings.

    The equivalent would be a bunch of Italian Americans of the 1970s worrying about a "backlash" after the another major Mafia kingpin was felled.

    Funny you should mention that because in NY in the 1970s there was a organization exactly like that (it was named the Italian-American Anti-Defamation League or something like that) and it was (ironically) run by an actual Mafia kingpin (until his assassination at one of their rallies). The rumor was that the other families didn’t like the publicity he was bringing to the Mafia by holding rallies denying that the Mafia existed. If you wrote a novel with this plot, no one would believe you.

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    I think I remember hearing of that. Unfortunately for him, most Italian-Americans of his era did not think it was "persecution" to arrest the Italian mobsters.

    Of course, he could deny the Mafia with a straight face since the FBI did so for decades. Those Keystone Cops and their fairy leader Hoover were in the back pocket of the mob for years.
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  93. Jack D says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I assume the Israeli part is why you brought his name up.
     
    No, I assume the fact that he is a Jew is why YetAnotherAnon brought it up - the fact that many Jews seem to feel the need, and assume the right, to lecture people about "what X (country) is all about". And "what country X is all about" inevitably leads to the dissolution of the historic population of country X.

    Otherwise, he’s a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever.
     
    I thought the jewish people were a Light unto the World because of all the talented and accomplished people they produce - people like Daniel Barenboim, who certainly qualifies as talented and accomplished. So, are the only ones who are relevant, and not "of no importance whatsoever", the finaniciers, schemers, and pornographers?

    the fact that many Jews seem to feel the need, and assume the right, to lecture people about “what X (country) is all about”. And “what country X is all about” inevitably leads to the dissolution of the historic population of country X.

    There is a lot of information in this thread to the effect that Lutherans and Catholics and not Jews were the ones most responsible for bringing large #s of Somalis to the Twin Cities area. Do you feel the same about these groups or only Jews?

    Are Jews not part of the “historic population” of America or the West in general? Do they not have the right to express their views to the same extent as other American citizens of “historic stock”? If not, which groups are entitled to speak for “real” Americans? What if your ancestors came from Germany in the early 19th century? Do you also have to keep your mouth shut? Lutherans have only been around since 1521 but there have been Jews in the West since Roman times.

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    Lutherans were converted Catholics who had been living in the area now known as Germany well before Roman times.
    , @Mr. Anon

    There is a lot of information in this thread to the effect that Lutherans and Catholics and not Jews were the ones most responsible for bringing large #s of Somalis to the Twin Cities area. Do you feel the same about these groups or only Jews?
     
    Yes, I don't like Catholic and Lutheran groups who do this either. However, they do not have nearly the megaphone that many Jews have. Hollywood isn't dominated by Catholics and Lutherans.

    Are Jews not part of the “historic population” of America or the West in general?
     
    The founding stock of America? No, not really. A historic population of Europe? Yes, but as a self-consicously separate group.

    Do they not have the right to express their views to the same extent as other American citizens of “historic stock”?
     
    Sure, of course they do. And gentiles have a right to point out that they may be acting from motives of ethnic self-interest. However, if they choose to avail themselves of that right, they might be rendered, essentially, unpersons.
    , @ben tillman

    There is a lot of information in this thread to the effect that Lutherans and Catholics and not Jews were the ones most responsible for bringing large #s of Somalis to the Twin Cities area. Do you feel the same about these groups or only Jews?
     
    There are followers, and there are leaders.
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  94. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Blank
    Perhaps some enterprising journalist would enlighten us on why, exactly, there is a huge Somali community in Minnesota, of all places.

    I've never seen this curious fact adequately explained. I doubt the Somalis themselves would have picked Minnesota if it had been up to them, and I can't imagine the white community in Minnesota decided they needed a sudden influx of thousands of Somalis -- not that anyone ever bothered to consult them.

    Matthew 5:42–Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

    “I’ve never seen this curious fact adequately explained…”

    It’s simple…Christian brotherhood.

    But of course you get this comment…

    “On a deeper level, the answer is that many strains of Christianity, despite no longer embracing God on a metaphysical level, remain quite religious and devolve into SJWism.”

    Or this one…

    “Because cucked Minnesotans will be more than happy to roll over for them.”

    If that be the case, then Jesus Himself who helped the poor and needy was also “cucked”.

    And this one.

    “There must be a special gene in the German and the Swede that reflexively just rolls over for any Muslim who wants a free ride.”

    That is an anti-white statement.

    See, in the 1840′s and 1850′s, when nativists were in full throat opposition to Irish and German immigration, church groups in major cities were instrumental in bringing a measure of dignity in an era when they were made to feel they were of a lower breed of people. These religious organizations dispensed charity and created parochial schools, which is no different than what “cucks” are doing today when they assist immigrants.

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    Matthew 5:42–Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
     
    "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." - Matthew 10:16

    It’s simple…Christian brotherhood.
     
    Please note that to have a Christian brotherhood, everyone has to be a Christian??? Or maybe we have to show Christian brotherhood first to our neighbors, friends, and local taxpayers and honor their wishes. Sorry, no asking everyone else to do your good deeds.

    If that be the case, then Jesus Himself who helped the poor and needy was also “cucked”.
     
    Please note that Jesus actually helped the poor and needy himself. He did not apply for grants from the Romans. He also was quoted as saying:

    "You will always have the poor among you, and you can help them whenever you want to. But you will not always have me." Mark 14:7

    Interesting that. Maybe he came to save souls and not eradicate poverty (or war) from the face of the Earth.


    These religious organizations dispensed charity and created parochial schools, which is no different than what “cucks” are doing today when they assist immigrants.
     
    With that tiny little proviso that they're getting millions from the Federal government and using it, in part to shore up church structures about to fail from lack of buttocks in pews. Back then it was 100% local money. So in fact it's totally different from what cucked do-gooders who cherry pick from the Gospels to create a hippie Jesus do to justify taxing others in an attempt to do work that Jesus did not call them to do.
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  95. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I assume the Israeli part is why you brought his name up.
     
    No, I assume the fact that he is a Jew is why YetAnotherAnon brought it up - the fact that many Jews seem to feel the need, and assume the right, to lecture people about "what X (country) is all about". And "what country X is all about" inevitably leads to the dissolution of the historic population of country X.

    Otherwise, he’s a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever.
     
    I thought the jewish people were a Light unto the World because of all the talented and accomplished people they produce - people like Daniel Barenboim, who certainly qualifies as talented and accomplished. So, are the only ones who are relevant, and not "of no importance whatsoever", the finaniciers, schemers, and pornographers?

    “No, I assume the fact that he is a Jew is why YetAnotherAnon brought it up – the fact that many Jews seem to feel the need, and assume the right, to lecture people about “what X (country) is all about”. And “what country X is all about” inevitably leads to the dissolution of the historic population of country X.”

    Ironic, considering you are compelled to demand that people know what America is supposedly about, and that anyone who deviates from it is partaking from genocide. And, what about those tribal groups who heard the same message from Europeans. Did not they “lecture” Indians (feather, not dot)? Did not European actions lead to the “dissolution of the historic population of North/South America”?

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    I have already replied to Jack D and Moshe, both of whom are reasonable men, and men whom I respect. Their opinions are always interesting and worthwhile, even when I do not agree with them.

    Your opinions, on the other hand, aren't worth a bucket of warm spit. They could be replicated by a monkey with a pencil randomly circling words from an NPR transcript. I have no respect for you.

    So, go hang.

    , @Mr. Anon
    I have already replied to Jack D and Moshe, both of whom are reasonable men, and men whom I respect. Their opinions are always interesting and worthwhile, even when I do not agree with them.

    Your opinions, on the other hand, aren’t worth a bucket of warm spit. They could be replicated by a monkey with a pencil randomly circling words from an NPR transcript. I have no respect for you.
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  96. Jack D says:
    @Mr. Anon
    As an aside, I read in one of the articles on this crime that the poor murdered woman's bereaved fiance is a casino manager. It's strange what people do for a living nowadays. Forty-four years ago, when Time ran a cover-story about

    The Good Life in Minnesota

    I don't imagine there were too many casinos in the Twin Cities area.

    In keeping with the idea that Indian reservations are “sovereign nations”, they were allowed to set their own rules for whether they would permit gambling casinos within their boundaries as a matter of Federal law. So regardless of whether your state prohibited gambling (most did) if it had any Indian reservations it was going to get gambling. If your state was lacking in recognized tribes within driving distance of big cities, the casino interests (the real brains behind this) would help you to organize a tribe. Here are three typical Mashantucket Pequot princesses, for example:

    Under the rules of PC, no one is allowed to snicker at their claims of being Indian – if chicks can have dicks, then gingers and blacks can be “Indians” too (but don’t go claiming that you are black, Rachel).

    After a while many states got sick of the racket and decided that they wanted in on the revenue and permitted gambling everywhere.

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    Another thing about Indian reservation casinos is that many federal environmental regulations don't apply to them, so it's much easier to build golf courses next to casinos than anywhere else in the country. I played beautiful Barona Creek golf course outside San Diego in 2001 with the designer. As a California golf architect, most of the courses he had designed over the last decade didn't exist except on blueprints and in endless regulatory hearings. In contrast, this Indian casino course had opened within 18 months of being conceived.
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  97. At least Somalia is on Trump’s travel ban list, so there probably won’t be more than a handful of new murdering rapefugees this year.

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  98. Jack D says:
    @AM

    And trads/neoTrads wonder why some of us have such antipathy to the Rabbi On A Stick cults that invaded the North a millennium ago…and never stop trying to vanquish us and our ancestors and descendants with new invaders.
     
    In real life, pagans are worst on the whole multiculturalism shtick. Dare you to join any formal pagan/Wiccan society and start talking anyone does on iSteve. You'd be gone faster than you could say "drum circle"

    You know why many pagans converted voluntarily? Because it was obvious to them these Christian soldiers/princes were much more powerful they were and wanted in. Even after the Japanese kicked out Christian missionaries, samurais would put images of Christ within their swords I believe, believing in it's power. It's performance art how alt-right pagan LARPers belly ache about being conquered by Christians for millennia but somehow they're going to save us all. Right.

    I'm not arguing about the corruption of cucked church administrations, those are facts that have more to with modernity than the religions themselves.

    But frankly, these arrogant and ill-educated posts are just SJW stuff in a different direction. Keep emoting and LARPing. I'm sure you're helping.

    Pagan converts (and phony neo-pagans) were and are just following the $ (or backing the “strong horse” in Bin Laden’s terminology). Back in the day, light skinned blacks would “cross the color line” and pretend to be white (because that’s where the $/societal advantages were) but now you have whites pretending to be black or Indian. So the fact that people like Olorin whose ancestors have been Christians for 1,000 plus years are claiming to be pagans tells you who the strong horse is now.

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    So the fact that people like Olorin whose ancestors have been Christians for 1,000 plus years are claiming to be pagans tells you who the strong horse is now.
     
    Nah. it tells me, anyway,that we've pretty much all lost the plot. Technically speaking the "strong horse" at the moment is Islam. It's why you get European converts. They're the only ones who are violent and still share the characteristics of traditional societies (open rejection of homosexuality, etc). Nobody's passing Paganphobe laws.

    The paganism LARPing lets him keep his atheism and give him a "respectable" back/victim story, which in the West is really anti-Christianity.
    , @Olorin
    You're both shadowboxing for your Christian mistresses.

    I am not a pagan.

    And my ancestors were not "Christians for 1,000 years." That is a slander on their memory.

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  99. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Lutherans, ruining communities for generations through so-called good works. They had a hand in upsetting the rust belt decades ago with their forced integration gambits. That contributed to white flight and inner city crime. Thanks, Lutherans, although people know that they didn’t act alone.

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  100. “Mohamud Noor, who is not related to the officer, ”

    Actually, he is. At least racialists understand that much, something the Left never will (or only when expedient).

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  101. Billionaire Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post. Bezos is using the Washington Post to attack White Core Americans. Bezos pushes nation-wrecking mass immigration, multicultural mayhem and REFUGEE OVERLOAD.

    Bezos’s Washington Post ran a story about how Somalians in Minnesota are concerned that they will get a backlash from the recent killing of a woman by a Somali cop. The Washington Post doesn’t want anyone to question why there are Somalians in Minnesota, or question who sent them to Minnesota, or to question if Somalian REFUGEE OVERLOAD is harming Minnesota. The Washington Post just wants to impose WHITE GUILT on Americans for questioning why Somalians are in the United States at all.

    President Trump’s counter-attacks on the corporate media — including the Washington Post –
    are highly effective in energizing many Americans because of the crude anti-White propaganda that permeates the media. The American people want someone to fight back against the corporate propaganda whores. These backlash stories to distract people from frontlash attacks is a perfect example.

    President Trump must continue his defense of the American people by battling the anti-American rats in the corporate media.

    This media guy is wondering why the left no longer actively attacks the media:

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  102. Jack D says:
    @Crawfurdmuir
    I would not be surprised if it turns out that this "officer" was playing with his gun and it went off by accident. Not only did he shoot an innocent citizen, but apparently discharged his pistol in such a way that the bullet's path was just a few inches in front of his partner. This does not impress me as a normal defensive situation.

    Many policemen are shockingly ill-trained and lacking in proficiency with firearms. I am aware of two cases of accidental discharge of firearms by police in one relatively small city within the week after new service pistols were issued to the force. One put a bullet through the door of his patrol car, and the other shot himself in the buttock.

    This is the raison d'être for the double-action-only semiautomatic pistol. The long and relatively heavy trigger pull makes such a weapon difficult to fire accidentally. Unfortunately it also makes it more difficult to fire accurately. DA-only pistols are disproportionately sold to law enforcement agencies because they are believed to be safer. Of course, no such "safety features" do any good if the weapon is placed in the hands of a person unfit to do the job.

    The latest reports are that Noor may have been startled by the sound of fireworks going off. In addition to the factors that you list, he apparently fired only one bullet which is also indicative of “accidental” discharge. Usually if the cops intend to shoot someone they fire their guns multiple times. Accident in scary quotes because as you say police weapons do not have hair triggers.

    Many years ago when a parent was ill, we shared a long night in a the hospital waiting room with the family of a cop who had supposedly shot himself while cleaning his weapon (at least that was the story at the time – now that I am older and wiser I wonder if it could have been a cover story for attempted suicide).

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    Or rather than accidental discharge -- surely they teach you how to draw your weapon without putting your finger on the trigger -- a briefly intentional discharge, quickly regretted.
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    Investigators say Officers Matthew Harrity and Mohamed Noor responded. As they drove through the alley ... a loud sound startled Harrity, who was driving.

    They say immediately afterwards, Damond approached the driver side window and that Noor fired his gun across his partner, through the open window, hitting Damond.
     

    I'd be interested to know what exactly they mean by "immediately afterwards." A delay of what - one second? If that were the case wouldn't most people process the events - the fireworks going off and Damond's approach - as happening simultaneously? Did he stop the car the instant he heard the noise? If not, was Damond approaching the car while it was still moving? How much time elapsed between the fireworks going off and the shooting? They're making it sound like the events happened almost simultaneously, but it seems quite possible that the shooting happened as much as thirty seconds after the fireworks, which would make the "I heard a loud noise and shot the first thing I saw" defense even less compelling.
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  103. Bill B. says:
    @Olorin
    The one-word answer:

    Lutherans.


    LSS Refugee Services began operating in the mid-1970’s in response to the crisis occurring in Southeast Asia. Refugees started to arrive in Minnesota from countries such as Cambodia, Vietnam, and Laos. During the 1980’s, LSS Refugee Services continued to resettle refugees from Asia, as well as countries such as Ethiopia. During the 1990’s and into the twenty-first century, conflicts in East and West Africa and the changing political situations in Eastern Europe brought refugees from these regions into Minnesota.

    As it has in the past, LSS Refugee Services continues to play an instrumental role in assisting refugees from around the world start their new lives in Minnesota.

    http://unitedwayhelps.galaxydigital.com/volunteer/agency/display/lutheran-social-service-of-minnesota--refugee-services/?agency_id=39018
     

    Location of the national headquarters of Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services?

    Baltimore.

    http://lirs.org/locations/

    See page 2 of their Form 990, item #1, for their assertion that God supports white genocide as he pours nearly $60 million in their coffers so they can "transform communities" through "migrants and refugees."

    http://lirs.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Form-990-2015-Final.pdf

    Note also the plump salaries of its executives. Page 8, Part VII.

    LIRS partners with Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota.

    http://www.lssmn.org/AndWhoIsMyNeighbor/

    My Neighbor Is Muslim
    http://www.lssmn.org/refugeeservices/study/

    Now I'm focusing on the Looterans because Officer al-Shooty bin BangBang took his much-reported college degree from Augsburg College--a private Looteran (ELCA for those keeping splinter group score) diploma mill in the most Third World part of Mpls.

    It appears to specialize in pushing brown people through and getting them positioned to feed at the affirmative action trough while displacing native-born and founding-stock Americans. Its student body is 42 percent nonwhite (Mpls is 26 percent nonwhite, and Minnesota, 23 percent) and they receive hefty amounts of grant bling from the Lutherans to attend this surprisingly pricey institution.

    So I figure the Loots were instrumental in foisting him upon the city and arming him.

    But there are other religious refugee resettlement organizations with a lot of power and money in MN as well:

    http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/idepc/refugee/topics/resettlement.html

    The Catlicks even illustrate their home page with a Muzzie family with, at the time of photo, three offspring of elementary school age.

    https://www.cctwincities.org/locations/refugee-reception-placement/

    According to Pew Research, Minneapolis's population is 70% Christian with Protestants at about 2:1 over Catlicks. I seem to recall that Catlicks comprise Minnesota's largest religious affiliation with ELCA running second by about half a million.

    And trads/neoTrads wonder why some of us have such antipathy to the Rabbi On A Stick cults that invaded the North a millennium ago...and never stop trying to vanquish us and our ancestors and descendants with new invaders.

    You can’t say they are not honest. They certainly transform communities (and I say this as a Christian).

    From the form 990:

    Briefly describe the organization’s mission:
    WITNESSING TO GOD’S LOVE FOR ALL PEOPLE, WE STAND WITH AND ADVOCATE FOR MIGRANTS AND REFUGEES, TRANSFORMING COMMUNITIES THROUGH MINISTRIES OF SERVICE AND JUSTICE.

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    They certainly transform communities (and I say this as a Christian).
     
    I can't even argue those nominally Christian organizations, so I don't. sigh
    , @Olorin

    You can’t say they are not honest.
     
    Precisely, Bill.

    But why is it that so many people refuse to see that? (As the shadowboxing AM, for instance.)

    I can respect any Christian who sees through this gig. My redneck Christian friends nearly all do.

    I can respect them loving their rabbi (though they seem to love him as a workman or cousin of Odin at Yggdrasil, not as a Huddled Mass victim type) if they don't then turn around and turn him into an excuse for their own will to destroy white men. I.e., themselves.

    You can't claim to care about whites and side with those who systematically destroy us.

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  104. @Crawfurdmuir
    I would not be surprised if it turns out that this "officer" was playing with his gun and it went off by accident. Not only did he shoot an innocent citizen, but apparently discharged his pistol in such a way that the bullet's path was just a few inches in front of his partner. This does not impress me as a normal defensive situation.

    Many policemen are shockingly ill-trained and lacking in proficiency with firearms. I am aware of two cases of accidental discharge of firearms by police in one relatively small city within the week after new service pistols were issued to the force. One put a bullet through the door of his patrol car, and the other shot himself in the buttock.

    This is the raison d'être for the double-action-only semiautomatic pistol. The long and relatively heavy trigger pull makes such a weapon difficult to fire accidentally. Unfortunately it also makes it more difficult to fire accurately. DA-only pistols are disproportionately sold to law enforcement agencies because they are believed to be safer. Of course, no such "safety features" do any good if the weapon is placed in the hands of a person unfit to do the job.

    I would not be surprised if it turns out that this “officer” was playing with his gun and it went off by accident.

    Contrary to what Jack D wrote, I’ve read that Noor fired multiple shots.  News stories seem to have been updated, because those which were linked as saying this no longer do.

    He should have been canned for even having un-holstered his weapon.  His whole clan should be sent back, and his prison sentence should be followed by deportation also.

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  105. AM says:
    @Jack D
    Pagan converts (and phony neo-pagans) were and are just following the $ (or backing the "strong horse" in Bin Laden's terminology). Back in the day, light skinned blacks would "cross the color line" and pretend to be white (because that's where the $/societal advantages were) but now you have whites pretending to be black or Indian. So the fact that people like Olorin whose ancestors have been Christians for 1,000 plus years are claiming to be pagans tells you who the strong horse is now.

    So the fact that people like Olorin whose ancestors have been Christians for 1,000 plus years are claiming to be pagans tells you who the strong horse is now.

    Nah. it tells me, anyway,that we’ve pretty much all lost the plot. Technically speaking the “strong horse” at the moment is Islam. It’s why you get European converts. They’re the only ones who are violent and still share the characteristics of traditional societies (open rejection of homosexuality, etc). Nobody’s passing Paganphobe laws.

    The paganism LARPing lets him keep his atheism and give him a “respectable” back/victim story, which in the West is really anti-Christianity.

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  106. AM says:
    @Bill B.
    You can't say they are not honest. They certainly transform communities (and I say this as a Christian).

    From the form 990:

    Briefly describe the organization’s mission:
    WITNESSING TO GOD'S LOVE FOR ALL PEOPLE, WE STAND WITH AND ADVOCATE FOR MIGRANTS AND REFUGEES, TRANSFORMING COMMUNITIES THROUGH MINISTRIES OF SERVICE AND JUSTICE.

     

    They certainly transform communities (and I say this as a Christian).

    I can’t even argue those nominally Christian organizations, so I don’t. sigh

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  108. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Jack D
    Funny you should mention that because in NY in the 1970s there was a organization exactly like that (it was named the Italian-American Anti-Defamation League or something like that) and it was (ironically) run by an actual Mafia kingpin (until his assassination at one of their rallies). The rumor was that the other families didn't like the publicity he was bringing to the Mafia by holding rallies denying that the Mafia existed. If you wrote a novel with this plot, no one would believe you.

    I think I remember hearing of that. Unfortunately for him, most Italian-Americans of his era did not think it was “persecution” to arrest the Italian mobsters.

    Of course, he could deny the Mafia with a straight face since the FBI did so for decades. Those Keystone Cops and their fairy leader Hoover were in the back pocket of the mob for years.

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  109. Olorin says:
    @AM

    And trads/neoTrads wonder why some of us have such antipathy to the Rabbi On A Stick cults that invaded the North a millennium ago…and never stop trying to vanquish us and our ancestors and descendants with new invaders.
     
    In real life, pagans are worst on the whole multiculturalism shtick. Dare you to join any formal pagan/Wiccan society and start talking anyone does on iSteve. You'd be gone faster than you could say "drum circle"

    You know why many pagans converted voluntarily? Because it was obvious to them these Christian soldiers/princes were much more powerful they were and wanted in. Even after the Japanese kicked out Christian missionaries, samurais would put images of Christ within their swords I believe, believing in it's power. It's performance art how alt-right pagan LARPers belly ache about being conquered by Christians for millennia but somehow they're going to save us all. Right.

    I'm not arguing about the corruption of cucked church administrations, those are facts that have more to with modernity than the religions themselves.

    But frankly, these arrogant and ill-educated posts are just SJW stuff in a different direction. Keep emoting and LARPing. I'm sure you're helping.

    I’ll note for anyone who might be taking your shadow-boxing spittlestorm seriously:

    I am not a pagan, not a Wiccan, and not emoting.

    My heart on this topic is as cold as akkvavit, in part thanks to genes (not something you apparently comprehend), in part thanks to experience.

    Cucked and femmey religionists can go pound lubber sand up the orifice where you take invaders’ faiths and plead for more. The costs of your beliefs and of your admitted thirst for petty power as retainers to princes are visible to anyone who puts on the glasses.

    Like how this good-kind-of-immigrant white lady shot in the face by a church-pet Somali, and the destruction of her family, will mean many inexplicably, baldly, double down on your precious churches and their VOLAG leader ladies who make $300,000 a year for literally preaching white genocide in the name of God.

    Here it is, right in their own words and their caps, from LISS’s Form 990:

    WITNESSING TO GOD’S LOVE FOR ALL PEOPLE, WE STAND WITH AND ADVOCATE FOR MIGRANTS AND REFUGEES, TRANSFORMING COMMUNITIES THROUGH MINISTRIES OF SERVICE AND JUSTICE.

    “Transforming communities”? Mission accomplished, I’d say:

    [MORE]

    From 1960–when Minneapolis was 95% white–to 2010, when it was made over into a 64% white city, the city lost about a quarter of its residents.

    In that time 30 mosques were built, 30,000 Somalis were brought in (by the Lutherans and Catholics), also 40,000 Latinos, 10,000 Hmong, 70,000 blacks…and the queers today brag that its population is over 15% queer.

    This is the new City of God, according to our Christian Princes of the Current Year.

    Most of whom are, in fact, churchy-careerist women.

    The ELCA college that Noor attended lists as its mission, on its own Web site:

    The Augsburg experience is supported by an engaged community that is committed to intentional diversity in its life and work.

    Read that again. COMMITTED TO INTENTIONAL DIVERSITY. Not to civilization. Not to the west. Not to the cultivation and expansion of human knowledge. Not even, for the love of lefse, to Jesus.

    In 1962 that college’s sponsoring Lutheran church–in the college’s words–redefined its mission as serving “the good of society first” and the church itself second.

    What was in the wings at that time, and was formalized not long after?

    The “Civil Rights” Act of 1964, which assembled trillions of dollars over half a century to wage genetic, economic, social, and cultural war on white Americans and their civilization. And gender war on white American men. And create big fat political and NGO careers for the Christian (etc.) Prince(sse)s.

    Our current situation of white replacement and resultant destruction of civilization owes in large part to white Christians cucking for the big-city bolshie program of “diversity.”

    It has nothing to do with faith, even less to do with the almighty, and everything to do with money, power, and ego.

    So maybe–just maybe–at some point–whites can start questioning what Christianity brought to the North.

    Which you admit, indirectly, is cucking, weakness, and the feminine as the organizing nexus of society.

    Just one last thing. If you think the Wiccans are PC, you should sometime try a Sons of Norway or Knights of Columbus meeting.

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    "My heart on this topic is as cold as akkvavit, in part thanks to genes (not something you apparently comprehend), in part thanks to experience."

    Autism it is.
    , @AM

    I am not a pagan, not a Wiccan, and not emoting.
     
    That's so cute.


    My heart on this topic is as cold as akkvavit, in part thanks to genes (not something you apparently comprehend), in part thanks to experience.
     
    LOL! Nice LARPing. I am in complete admiration, especially given your first statement.

    Cucked and femmey religionists can go pound lubber sand up the orifice where you take invaders’ faiths and plead for more. The costs of your beliefs and of your admitted thirst for petty power as retainers to princes are visible to anyone who puts on the glasses.
     
    Yeah, an atheists have been so wonderful on that front. Communism anyone? Millions dead and still counting. Not holding out that some dude who thinks he's just a sack of DNA is going to save society and the West.

    But looking sharp on the perceived victimhood. You should go hang out with SJW feminists. I'm sure there's a cis-male Christian patriarchy you both can complain about. Maybe at a Starbucks?

    Just one last thing. If you think the Wiccans are PC, you should sometime try a Sons of Norway or Knights of Columbus meeting.
     
    You know I'm totally right about the whole pagan thing. And that's the problem.
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  110. AM says:
    @Corvinus
    Matthew 5:42--Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

    "I’ve never seen this curious fact adequately explained..."

    It's simple...Christian brotherhood.

    But of course you get this comment...

    "On a deeper level, the answer is that many strains of Christianity, despite no longer embracing God on a metaphysical level, remain quite religious and devolve into SJWism."

    Or this one...

    "Because cucked Minnesotans will be more than happy to roll over for them."

    If that be the case, then Jesus Himself who helped the poor and needy was also "cucked".

    And this one.

    "There must be a special gene in the German and the Swede that reflexively just rolls over for any Muslim who wants a free ride."

    That is an anti-white statement.

    See, in the 1840's and 1850's, when nativists were in full throat opposition to Irish and German immigration, church groups in major cities were instrumental in bringing a measure of dignity in an era when they were made to feel they were of a lower breed of people. These religious organizations dispensed charity and created parochial schools, which is no different than what "cucks" are doing today when they assist immigrants.

    Matthew 5:42–Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

    “Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.” – Matthew 10:16

    It’s simple…Christian brotherhood.

    Please note that to have a Christian brotherhood, everyone has to be a Christian??? Or maybe we have to show Christian brotherhood first to our neighbors, friends, and local taxpayers and honor their wishes. Sorry, no asking everyone else to do your good deeds.

    If that be the case, then Jesus Himself who helped the poor and needy was also “cucked”.

    Please note that Jesus actually helped the poor and needy himself. He did not apply for grants from the Romans. He also was quoted as saying:

    “You will always have the poor among you, and you can help them whenever you want to. But you will not always have me.” Mark 14:7

    Interesting that. Maybe he came to save souls and not eradicate poverty (or war) from the face of the Earth.

    These religious organizations dispensed charity and created parochial schools, which is no different than what “cucks” are doing today when they assist immigrants.

    With that tiny little proviso that they’re getting millions from the Federal government and using it, in part to shore up church structures about to fail from lack of buttocks in pews. Back then it was 100% local money. So in fact it’s totally different from what cucked do-gooders who cherry pick from the Gospels to create a hippie Jesus do to justify taxing others in an attempt to do work that Jesus did not call them to do.

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    “Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.” – Matthew 10:16"

    Indeed. Risk your life as a vulnerable, non-combative, courageous witness to His greatness by assisting your neighbor, but in a way as to give your witness that does not bring unnecessary persecution. Jesus is aware of the hardships His disciples face as they live by faith. He wants us to know what we are getting ourselves into when we preach His word and engage in His work, especially if there are critics.

    "Interesting that. Maybe he came to save souls and not eradicate poverty (or war) from the face of the Earth."

    Jesus accounted the evil in the world as the result of sin--the sins of the rich, the sins of the poor, the sins of the sloth and envy, etc. Thus, by cleansing one of sin, which devalues the sacredness of life and our dignity, we tackle the injustices brought forth by poverty and war.

    God designed us to live and serve in the community. We may take into account “There will always be people who will need your help", which suggests that we share what we have accumulated so as those in need (“the poor”) were not left to starve. The “poor” will always remain, but it is His command that they are cared for.

    "With that tiny little proviso that they’re getting millions from the Federal government and using it, in part to shore up church structures about to fail from lack of buttocks in pews. Back then it was 100% local money. So in fact it’s totally different from what cucked do-gooders who cherry pick from the Gospels to create a hippie Jesus do to justify taxing others in an attempt to do work that Jesus did not call them to do."

    God and Jesus clearly called for His followers to help the poor and defend the weak from the wicked. You are perverting the faith to serve your own ends. And "cucked do-gooders"? God and Jesus would scoff at that term. Begone!
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  111. Olorin says:
    @Jack D
    Pagan converts (and phony neo-pagans) were and are just following the $ (or backing the "strong horse" in Bin Laden's terminology). Back in the day, light skinned blacks would "cross the color line" and pretend to be white (because that's where the $/societal advantages were) but now you have whites pretending to be black or Indian. So the fact that people like Olorin whose ancestors have been Christians for 1,000 plus years are claiming to be pagans tells you who the strong horse is now.

    You’re both shadowboxing for your Christian mistresses.

    I am not a pagan.

    And my ancestors were not “Christians for 1,000 years.” That is a slander on their memory.

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    And my ancestors were not “Christians for 1,000 years.” That is a slander on their memory.
     
    Yes, it's actually much more like 1500 years. But whose counting?
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  112. Olorin says:
    @Bill B.
    You can't say they are not honest. They certainly transform communities (and I say this as a Christian).

    From the form 990:

    Briefly describe the organization’s mission:
    WITNESSING TO GOD'S LOVE FOR ALL PEOPLE, WE STAND WITH AND ADVOCATE FOR MIGRANTS AND REFUGEES, TRANSFORMING COMMUNITIES THROUGH MINISTRIES OF SERVICE AND JUSTICE.

     

    You can’t say they are not honest.

    Precisely, Bill.

    But why is it that so many people refuse to see that? (As the shadowboxing AM, for instance.)

    I can respect any Christian who sees through this gig. My redneck Christian friends nearly all do.

    I can respect them loving their rabbi (though they seem to love him as a workman or cousin of Odin at Yggdrasil, not as a Huddled Mass victim type) if they don’t then turn around and turn him into an excuse for their own will to destroy white men. I.e., themselves.

    You can’t claim to care about whites and side with those who systematically destroy us.

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    I can respect any Christian who sees through this gig. My redneck Christian friends nearly all do.
     
    I totally do.

    I can respect them loving their rabbi (though they seem to love him as a workman or cousin of Odin at Yggdrasil, not as a Huddled Mass victim type) if they don’t then turn around and turn him into an excuse for their own will to destroy white men. I.e., themselves.
     
    You don't respect them in the least. You don't know even know what they believe.

    Which is why I think your posts are hilarious. When the chips are down, there's not a lot that line of thinking offers. It's all bluster and pagan LARPing. You've got nothing to help your friends with, just snark.

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  113. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @fnn
    What you say would be impressive if blacks didn't commit at least 50% of violent crime. I have a generally low opinion of cops, but even I don't think they just go around shooting people at random. If we looked at all the cases of those shot by police, I'm pretty sure most of them were engaged in serious anti-social behavior.

    Way to miss the point.

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    You lost me too, then. Fnn was trying to explain to you that since blacks commit a much higher than proportional percentage of crimes, your rebuttal to Wally did not prove anything.

    I agree with you, fnn, that there aren't many flat-out executions like this job by the moron Somalian, and I'm not the biggest promoter of the guys in blue myself.

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  114. @Anonymous
    Sixty percent of the working age Somali population in Minneapolis is unemployed. The performance of Officer Noor makes you think we might be better if it was 100%. It's hard to find anything a violent imbecilic ethnic group like Somalis can do without causing harm. Better to keep them 24/7 in front of TV screens in public housing projects and deliver food and toilet paper to their door.

    Better to keep them 24/7 in front of TV screens in public housing projects and deliver food and toilet paper to their door.

    Yeah, until the seat opens up back to the muddaland … I hope that’s what you meant,

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  115. @Olorin
    The one-word answer:

    Lutherans.


    LSS Refugee Services began operating in the mid-1970’s in response to the crisis occurring in Southeast Asia. Refugees started to arrive in Minnesota from countries such as Cambodia, Vietnam, and Laos. During the 1980’s, LSS Refugee Services continued to resettle refugees from Asia, as well as countries such as Ethiopia. During the 1990’s and into the twenty-first century, conflicts in East and West Africa and the changing political situations in Eastern Europe brought refugees from these regions into Minnesota.

    As it has in the past, LSS Refugee Services continues to play an instrumental role in assisting refugees from around the world start their new lives in Minnesota.

    http://unitedwayhelps.galaxydigital.com/volunteer/agency/display/lutheran-social-service-of-minnesota--refugee-services/?agency_id=39018
     

    Location of the national headquarters of Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services?

    Baltimore.

    http://lirs.org/locations/

    See page 2 of their Form 990, item #1, for their assertion that God supports white genocide as he pours nearly $60 million in their coffers so they can "transform communities" through "migrants and refugees."

    http://lirs.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Form-990-2015-Final.pdf

    Note also the plump salaries of its executives. Page 8, Part VII.

    LIRS partners with Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota.

    http://www.lssmn.org/AndWhoIsMyNeighbor/

    My Neighbor Is Muslim
    http://www.lssmn.org/refugeeservices/study/

    Now I'm focusing on the Looterans because Officer al-Shooty bin BangBang took his much-reported college degree from Augsburg College--a private Looteran (ELCA for those keeping splinter group score) diploma mill in the most Third World part of Mpls.

    It appears to specialize in pushing brown people through and getting them positioned to feed at the affirmative action trough while displacing native-born and founding-stock Americans. Its student body is 42 percent nonwhite (Mpls is 26 percent nonwhite, and Minnesota, 23 percent) and they receive hefty amounts of grant bling from the Lutherans to attend this surprisingly pricey institution.

    So I figure the Loots were instrumental in foisting him upon the city and arming him.

    But there are other religious refugee resettlement organizations with a lot of power and money in MN as well:

    http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/idepc/refugee/topics/resettlement.html

    The Catlicks even illustrate their home page with a Muzzie family with, at the time of photo, three offspring of elementary school age.

    https://www.cctwincities.org/locations/refugee-reception-placement/

    According to Pew Research, Minneapolis's population is 70% Christian with Protestants at about 2:1 over Catlicks. I seem to recall that Catlicks comprise Minnesota's largest religious affiliation with ELCA running second by about half a million.

    And trads/neoTrads wonder why some of us have such antipathy to the Rabbi On A Stick cults that invaded the North a millennium ago...and never stop trying to vanquish us and our ancestors and descendants with new invaders.

    There must be some way to blame the Jews.

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  116. dr kill says:
    @Alec Leamas

    Thus, a proper wall or barrier along the US-Mexican border would potentially take away this golden door.
     
    I don't think the objection is necessarily a practical one - viz, that people outside of Mexico and Central America plan to possibly use our Southern border to come to the U.S.

    Rather, I think it's the idea that the United States might wake up and quit being the international patsy for the world's flotsam.

    Couldn’t they just plant a nice long lawn and put up a sign that says Keep Off The Grass?

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    @eddy wobegon
    For the most part, the Somalis here in Minnesota are shy dorks just like the native Scandihoovians. They are typically a two-parent family and so their kids are just as well-behaved and affable as the usual white kids. You'd take a Somali family next door before you'd want the 'refugees' from Chicago or Gary. You can easily distinguish a Somali boy from a black American not just by their slender build, but by the lack of an 'attitude' in their walk.

    So, the Somalis are not inherently troublesome at least not the 15,000 or so in St. Cloud. The Minneapolis Somalis who are about 40,000 strong have learned to 'gang-up' and commit crimes including assaults and robberies.

    You won't find a medical waiting room in the Twin Cities or St Cloud that doesn't have an excess of Somalis. The Somalis have definitely learned to exploit social services and thanks to CAIR riling them up, they will become SJWs in the next generation. Except for the precocious St Cloud mall stabber, the Somalis don't quite have their Irish up enough to cause havoc.

    It is our institutional leaders who are positively arthritic with political correctness who are the greatest danger. As the Mohamed Noor situation illustrates, our government is so intent on filling racial and ethnic quotas that they will hire cops that discharge their weapons when startled. Affirmative action may bring us the indescribable benefits of diversity, but in this case it brings death as well.

    So that is the bargain we must broker. We must tolerate unnecessary deaths and inefficiencies in order to reap the super-terrific benefits that racial extortionists are coercing.

    I'm so proud of our leaders.

    So, the Somalis are not inherently troublesome at least not the 15,000 or so in St. Cloud. The Minneapolis Somalis who are about 40,000 strong have learned to ‘gang-up’ and commit crimes including assaults and robberies.

    Wait a minute. So the population of 15,000 is OK, but the population of 40,000 is a problem.

    That sounds to me like a problem, overall.

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  118. @reiner Tor
    Is McCain the senior senator of Maine or Minnesota?

    I notice in your haste to try and strike a blow, you fail to differentiate between local politics and a senatorial election as well as not mentioning your own senators.

    McCain is elected by the Mormon bloc and the snowbirds. Whenever he faces a serious primary challenger (Dr. Kelli Ward), suddenly 10 other challengers pop out of the woodwork to split the vote.

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  119. @Jack D
    The latest reports are that Noor may have been startled by the sound of fireworks going off. In addition to the factors that you list, he apparently fired only one bullet which is also indicative of "accidental" discharge. Usually if the cops intend to shoot someone they fire their guns multiple times. Accident in scary quotes because as you say police weapons do not have hair triggers.

    Many years ago when a parent was ill, we shared a long night in a the hospital waiting room with the family of a cop who had supposedly shot himself while cleaning his weapon (at least that was the story at the time - now that I am older and wiser I wonder if it could have been a cover story for attempted suicide).

    Or rather than accidental discharge — surely they teach you how to draw your weapon without putting your finger on the trigger — a briefly intentional discharge, quickly regretted.

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    "Negligent discharge" is the sexy new legal term. When the agencies called them "accidental discharges" the gomers who should have never been given a gun and a badge would hide behind that terminology to keep their jobs.

    Now its negligence and its easier to hammer someone on civil/criminal penalties.
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  120. @reiner Tor
    Is McCain the senior senator of Maine or Minnesota?

    I notice in your haste to try and strike a blow, you fail to differentiate between local politics and a senatorial election as well as not mentioning your own senators.

    McCain is elected by the Mormon bloc and the snowbirds. Whenever he faces a serious primary challenger (Dr. Kelli Ward), suddenly 10 other challengers pop out of the woodwork to split the vote.

    You’re becoming as bad as Art Deco.

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  121. @TelfoedJohn
    Odd thing with Minnesotan senators is that 4 out of the last 5 have been Jewish. Yet Jews are only 1% of the state. Must be cohenincidence.

    http://stuffjewishpeoplelove.blogspot.com/2009/09/4-us-senate-class-ii-seat-from.html?m=1

    It’s been almost 15 years since Paul Wellstone died in that mysterious plane crash less than two weeks before the election.

    In the aftermath, Walter Mondale, that old goyische justice warrior, lost to Norm Coleman.

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  122. @Jack D
    In keeping with the idea that Indian reservations are "sovereign nations", they were allowed to set their own rules for whether they would permit gambling casinos within their boundaries as a matter of Federal law. So regardless of whether your state prohibited gambling (most did) if it had any Indian reservations it was going to get gambling. If your state was lacking in recognized tribes within driving distance of big cities, the casino interests (the real brains behind this) would help you to organize a tribe. Here are three typical Mashantucket Pequot princesses, for example:

    https://indiancountrymedianetwork.com/images/jpg/p/pequot-nation-royalty.jpg

    Under the rules of PC, no one is allowed to snicker at their claims of being Indian - if chicks can have dicks, then gingers and blacks can be "Indians" too (but don't go claiming that you are black, Rachel).


    After a while many states got sick of the racket and decided that they wanted in on the revenue and permitted gambling everywhere.

    Another thing about Indian reservation casinos is that many federal environmental regulations don’t apply to them, so it’s much easier to build golf courses next to casinos than anywhere else in the country. I played beautiful Barona Creek golf course outside San Diego in 2001 with the designer. As a California golf architect, most of the courses he had designed over the last decade didn’t exist except on blueprints and in endless regulatory hearings. In contrast, this Indian casino course had opened within 18 months of being conceived.

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    Maybe Indians should consider building a high speed railroad from LA to San Francisco. Make much wampum.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Steve, I have been thinking for some years that any patriot groups, militias, and so forth that will eventually have to cause trouble with the Feral Government (rightfully, I'll add right now) may see a strategic move in allying with some bigger Indian tribe. They are SUPPOSED to be different nations from the US, but nobody knows which part of Federal law the Indians are really held too, as they may not have pushed it, yet.

    The Feds will, of course, come up with any excuse they want to for clamping down on any flaunting of laws they really want to uphold. Still, there must be quite a few Indians around who have some pride and aren't just beholden to the alcohol and the gambling money. They've got a few beefs from way back, as do most of us, at this point.
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  123. @CCZ
    Not until 1:42 minutes into the news report does the reporter note that the fight was between black (American) students 22% of school and Somali students 8% of school. This is a "diverse" Minnesota high school, multi-culturalism at its best.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHM3R6ZRnQU

    Wait, what the… ? It was the Somali-Americans against the African-Americans? Who the hell’s from Africa anyway. The American black people probably cannot find Africa on a globe, and the Somalian black people are from there and probably can’t find America or Somalia on the map. It’s not just the stifling of free speech that is the problem with PC, but the complete fucking confusion caused by the stupid terms they come up with!

    Then, the black spokesman or principal (who knows?) says “Yeah, South High is a safe school. Did it have an unfortunate, awful situation today? Absolutely.” What a quote that is. “Yeah, the Japanese government is friends with the United States. Did they make an unfortunate bombing and strafing attach on our base in Pearl Harbor? Absolutely.”

    Also, would cops have come in and tear-gassed a food fight back in the 1970′s? This country has truly started to suck.

    The only thing sane in the video is the woman reporter out in the cold, with the big warm hat. She could play a part in Fargo 2 – The Wood Chipper strikes Back.

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  124. BB753 says:
    @Jack D

    the fact that many Jews seem to feel the need, and assume the right, to lecture people about “what X (country) is all about”. And “what country X is all about” inevitably leads to the dissolution of the historic population of country X.
     
    There is a lot of information in this thread to the effect that Lutherans and Catholics and not Jews were the ones most responsible for bringing large #s of Somalis to the Twin Cities area. Do you feel the same about these groups or only Jews?

    Are Jews not part of the "historic population" of America or the West in general? Do they not have the right to express their views to the same extent as other American citizens of "historic stock"? If not, which groups are entitled to speak for "real" Americans? What if your ancestors came from Germany in the early 19th century? Do you also have to keep your mouth shut? Lutherans have only been around since 1521 but there have been Jews in the West since Roman times.

    Lutherans were converted Catholics who had been living in the area now known as Germany well before Roman times.

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  125. @Jack D
    The latest reports are that Noor may have been startled by the sound of fireworks going off. In addition to the factors that you list, he apparently fired only one bullet which is also indicative of "accidental" discharge. Usually if the cops intend to shoot someone they fire their guns multiple times. Accident in scary quotes because as you say police weapons do not have hair triggers.

    Many years ago when a parent was ill, we shared a long night in a the hospital waiting room with the family of a cop who had supposedly shot himself while cleaning his weapon (at least that was the story at the time - now that I am older and wiser I wonder if it could have been a cover story for attempted suicide).

    Investigators say Officers Matthew Harrity and Mohamed Noor responded. As they drove through the alley … a loud sound startled Harrity, who was driving.

    They say immediately afterwards, Damond approached the driver side window and that Noor fired his gun across his partner, through the open window, hitting Damond.

    I’d be interested to know what exactly they mean by “immediately afterwards.” A delay of what – one second? If that were the case wouldn’t most people process the events – the fireworks going off and Damond’s approach – as happening simultaneously? Did he stop the car the instant he heard the noise? If not, was Damond approaching the car while it was still moving? How much time elapsed between the fireworks going off and the shooting? They’re making it sound like the events happened almost simultaneously, but it seems quite possible that the shooting happened as much as thirty seconds after the fireworks, which would make the “I heard a loud noise and shot the first thing I saw” defense even less compelling.

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  126. Bubba says:
    @Anon
    One thing a lot of editors know is that if you want to hire cheap, just advertise for SJWers. The thing about extremists is that they'll write for free. Look at Huffpo. They're crazy-eager to influence the narrative. If you want to fill up columns, just look for fanatics. In a time in which advertising revenue is drying up, they keep your costs low and the masthead staffed. They aren't mere paid hacks, oh no, they're on a sacred mission.

    You make an excellent point and it’s one that I starting noticing recently. Many of the SJW’s graduating with useless degrees seem to end up with AmeriCorps performing more useless work promoting the SJW agenda. The SJW’s frequently place ads on Craigslist in various cities looking to rent a room for $200 or $300 a month saying something similar to “…recent college grad, employed, but looking for cheap rent because my stipend is only $700 (or $800) a month…” A minimum waged McDonald’s or Starbucks employee would make about 33% more.

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  127. jim jones says:
    @eddy wobegon
    For the most part, the Somalis here in Minnesota are shy dorks just like the native Scandihoovians. They are typically a two-parent family and so their kids are just as well-behaved and affable as the usual white kids. You'd take a Somali family next door before you'd want the 'refugees' from Chicago or Gary. You can easily distinguish a Somali boy from a black American not just by their slender build, but by the lack of an 'attitude' in their walk.

    So, the Somalis are not inherently troublesome at least not the 15,000 or so in St. Cloud. The Minneapolis Somalis who are about 40,000 strong have learned to 'gang-up' and commit crimes including assaults and robberies.

    You won't find a medical waiting room in the Twin Cities or St Cloud that doesn't have an excess of Somalis. The Somalis have definitely learned to exploit social services and thanks to CAIR riling them up, they will become SJWs in the next generation. Except for the precocious St Cloud mall stabber, the Somalis don't quite have their Irish up enough to cause havoc.

    It is our institutional leaders who are positively arthritic with political correctness who are the greatest danger. As the Mohamed Noor situation illustrates, our government is so intent on filling racial and ethnic quotas that they will hire cops that discharge their weapons when startled. Affirmative action may bring us the indescribable benefits of diversity, but in this case it brings death as well.

    So that is the bargain we must broker. We must tolerate unnecessary deaths and inefficiencies in order to reap the super-terrific benefits that racial extortionists are coercing.

    I'm so proud of our leaders.

    Somalis can be identified by their characteristic “lightbulb head”:

    View post on imgur.com

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    Somalis can be identified by their characteristic “lightbulb head”:
     
    Dang, even for me that's pretty politically incorrect! I can see the shape of those Somalian's heads. They do look like incandescent bulbs, but they are KILLING THE PLANET, MAN! Very un-pc, there, but I'm trying to think of a race whose heads look like those curly-que new energy-saving mercury-filled ones, and I can't come up with anything.

    OK, carry on, I guess that is forgivable - we'll talk more down in Guyana over kool-aid, Jim. Have a good evening.
    , @SteveRogers42
    And their geekily-elongated Slenderman limbs.

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/3d5f7c49e8fdc660c593775461a056e8/tumblr_n05aksvtkb1r70le6o1_500.gif
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  128. @anonymous
    Speaking of training or lack of training among our diverse law enforcement officials, this video takes the cake. This man is giving a lecture to a class on gun safety and accidentally shoots himself!

    I must admit he does show remarkable composure. After shooting himself he calmly carries on and doesn't seek immediate medical attention. This guy is hardcore on his threshold of pain.

    In LEO circles this guy is always held up as the guy you do not want to be.

    He ended up suing the DEA because this video got out there.

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  129. @Olorin
    I'll note for anyone who might be taking your shadow-boxing spittlestorm seriously:

    I am not a pagan, not a Wiccan, and not emoting.

    My heart on this topic is as cold as akkvavit, in part thanks to genes (not something you apparently comprehend), in part thanks to experience.

    Cucked and femmey religionists can go pound lubber sand up the orifice where you take invaders' faiths and plead for more. The costs of your beliefs and of your admitted thirst for petty power as retainers to princes are visible to anyone who puts on the glasses.

    Like how this good-kind-of-immigrant white lady shot in the face by a church-pet Somali, and the destruction of her family, will mean many inexplicably, baldly, double down on your precious churches and their VOLAG leader ladies who make $300,000 a year for literally preaching white genocide in the name of God.

    Here it is, right in their own words and their caps, from LISS's Form 990:

    WITNESSING TO GOD'S LOVE FOR ALL PEOPLE, WE STAND WITH AND ADVOCATE FOR MIGRANTS AND REFUGEES, TRANSFORMING COMMUNITIES THROUGH MINISTRIES OF SERVICE AND JUSTICE.
     
    "Transforming communities"? Mission accomplished, I'd say:





    From 1960--when Minneapolis was 95% white--to 2010, when it was made over into a 64% white city, the city lost about a quarter of its residents.

    In that time 30 mosques were built, 30,000 Somalis were brought in (by the Lutherans and Catholics), also 40,000 Latinos, 10,000 Hmong, 70,000 blacks…and the queers today brag that its population is over 15% queer.

    This is the new City of God, according to our Christian Princes of the Current Year.

    Most of whom are, in fact, churchy-careerist women.

    The ELCA college that Noor attended lists as its mission, on its own Web site:

    The Augsburg experience is supported by an engaged community that is committed to intentional diversity in its life and work.
     
    Read that again. COMMITTED TO INTENTIONAL DIVERSITY. Not to civilization. Not to the west. Not to the cultivation and expansion of human knowledge. Not even, for the love of lefse, to Jesus.

    In 1962 that college's sponsoring Lutheran church--in the college's words--redefined its mission as serving "the good of society first" and the church itself second.

    What was in the wings at that time, and was formalized not long after?

    The "Civil Rights" Act of 1964, which assembled trillions of dollars over half a century to wage genetic, economic, social, and cultural war on white Americans and their civilization. And gender war on white American men. And create big fat political and NGO careers for the Christian (etc.) Prince(sse)s.

    Our current situation of white replacement and resultant destruction of civilization owes in large part to white Christians cucking for the big-city bolshie program of "diversity."

    It has nothing to do with faith, even less to do with the almighty, and everything to do with money, power, and ego.

    So maybe--just maybe--at some point--whites can start questioning what Christianity brought to the North.

    Which you admit, indirectly, is cucking, weakness, and the feminine as the organizing nexus of society.

    Just one last thing. If you think the Wiccans are PC, you should sometime try a Sons of Norway or Knights of Columbus meeting.

    “My heart on this topic is as cold as akkvavit, in part thanks to genes (not something you apparently comprehend), in part thanks to experience.”

    Autism it is.

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  130. @Steve Sailer
    Or rather than accidental discharge -- surely they teach you how to draw your weapon without putting your finger on the trigger -- a briefly intentional discharge, quickly regretted.

    “Negligent discharge” is the sexy new legal term. When the agencies called them “accidental discharges” the gomers who should have never been given a gun and a badge would hide behind that terminology to keep their jobs.

    Now its negligence and its easier to hammer someone on civil/criminal penalties.

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  131. JimB says:
    @Crawfurdmuir
    I would not be surprised if it turns out that this "officer" was playing with his gun and it went off by accident. Not only did he shoot an innocent citizen, but apparently discharged his pistol in such a way that the bullet's path was just a few inches in front of his partner. This does not impress me as a normal defensive situation.

    Many policemen are shockingly ill-trained and lacking in proficiency with firearms. I am aware of two cases of accidental discharge of firearms by police in one relatively small city within the week after new service pistols were issued to the force. One put a bullet through the door of his patrol car, and the other shot himself in the buttock.

    This is the raison d'être for the double-action-only semiautomatic pistol. The long and relatively heavy trigger pull makes such a weapon difficult to fire accidentally. Unfortunately it also makes it more difficult to fire accurately. DA-only pistols are disproportionately sold to law enforcement agencies because they are believed to be safer. Of course, no such "safety features" do any good if the weapon is placed in the hands of a person unfit to do the job.

    Noor is not cooperating with the external investigation, which is appalling. He should be immediately fired from the MPD and charged. The circumstantial evidence is good for at least a reckless endangerment charge for nearly killing his partner.

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  132. JimB says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Another thing about Indian reservation casinos is that many federal environmental regulations don't apply to them, so it's much easier to build golf courses next to casinos than anywhere else in the country. I played beautiful Barona Creek golf course outside San Diego in 2001 with the designer. As a California golf architect, most of the courses he had designed over the last decade didn't exist except on blueprints and in endless regulatory hearings. In contrast, this Indian casino course had opened within 18 months of being conceived.

    Maybe Indians should consider building a high speed railroad from LA to San Francisco. Make much wampum.

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  133. Studley says:
    @Barnard
    That is a good point. I have heard that many East African refugees use January 1 as their birthday, because they don't have any birth records and don't know what month or day they were born. I don't know how common the last names are, but the only way I would be convinced they aren't related at least as close as second cousins is if they came from cities in Somalia that are not very close geographically.

    I have heard that many East African refugees use January 1 as their birthday, because they don’t have any birth records and don’t know what month or day they were born.

    If they had any wit, they’d use January 2 to at least sometimes throw the authorities. My sibling’s birthdate is actually January 2.

    Think it was Gregory Clark who put it that you can tell the level of illiteracy in a population mathematically by counting the total of those giving their age at numbers ending in ’5′ or ’0′ above the rates normally in a population.

    Somalis giving their birthdates as January 1 in large numbers sounds worse in terms of literacy than Clark’s formula.

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  134. Yada yada says:

    The problem is Africans. The problem will continue to be the Africans who are living along side us and don’t belong here. Millions of dollars, years and years wasted to attempt to prove the lie that persons with an IQ of 80 or 85 can function in a sophisticated white European society. They were made for Africa. In Africa you don’t need to know how to operate a computer and most of all you don’t have to compete with a race of people whose IQ is 20 to 30 points higher than your own.

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  135. schmenz says:
    @Wilkey
    Sixty percent of the working age Somali population in Minneapolis is unemployed. The performance of Officer Noor makes you think we might be better if it was 100%. It’s hard to find anything a violent imbecilic ethnic group like Somalis can do without causing harm. Better to keep them 24/7 in front of TV screens in public housing projects and deliver food and toilet paper to their door.

    While they multiply like tribbles.

    Here's an Economist article about Somali immigrants in the United Kingdom, though it could really be about Somali immigrants anywhere.

    Some bullet points:

    1) Somali workforce participation (~30%) is less than half that of Kiwi, Polish, and Lithuanian immigrants (all at around 80%)

    2) "Most Somalis—Britain’s largest refugee population—do not work. They are among the poorest, worst-educated and least-employed in Britain."

    3) Over 80% of Somali-speaking pupils qualify for free school meals.

    4) In Waltham Forest, a borough in east London, home to nearly 4,000 Somalis, 73% live in households on benefits.

    5) More than 50% of British Somalis rent from local councils, the highest proportion of any foreign-born population.

    6) In nearby Tower Hamlets 2010 data showed that Somalis were twice as likely as white Britons to be behind with the rent.

    7) Just one in ten [British Somalis] is in full-time work.

    8) Many Somali households are headed by women who came to Britain without their husbands. [Yet somehow they manage to keep reproducing at rates far faster than native Britons.]

    9) This cocktail of poverty and unemployment dogs Somalis elsewhere too. In 2009 they were the least-employed group in Denmark. [Oh wait, so Somali immigrants have lousy outcomes in Denmark, too! And in Norway! And in Sweden! And in the US! It's almost as if it has nothing whatsoever to do with those "racist pigs" in the receiving countries and everything to do with Somalis themselves.]

    8) Many Somali households are headed by women who came to Britain without their husbands. [Yet somehow they manage to keep reproducing at rates far faster than native Britons.]

    The same story as found in every US city with large black populations. Bastardy is as commonplace with them as eating and sleeping. Harsh thing to say, but the illegitimacy rate – 75% in my Midwestern city – tells the story.

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  136. AM says:
    @Olorin
    I'll note for anyone who might be taking your shadow-boxing spittlestorm seriously:

    I am not a pagan, not a Wiccan, and not emoting.

    My heart on this topic is as cold as akkvavit, in part thanks to genes (not something you apparently comprehend), in part thanks to experience.

    Cucked and femmey religionists can go pound lubber sand up the orifice where you take invaders' faiths and plead for more. The costs of your beliefs and of your admitted thirst for petty power as retainers to princes are visible to anyone who puts on the glasses.

    Like how this good-kind-of-immigrant white lady shot in the face by a church-pet Somali, and the destruction of her family, will mean many inexplicably, baldly, double down on your precious churches and their VOLAG leader ladies who make $300,000 a year for literally preaching white genocide in the name of God.

    Here it is, right in their own words and their caps, from LISS's Form 990:

    WITNESSING TO GOD'S LOVE FOR ALL PEOPLE, WE STAND WITH AND ADVOCATE FOR MIGRANTS AND REFUGEES, TRANSFORMING COMMUNITIES THROUGH MINISTRIES OF SERVICE AND JUSTICE.
     
    "Transforming communities"? Mission accomplished, I'd say:





    From 1960--when Minneapolis was 95% white--to 2010, when it was made over into a 64% white city, the city lost about a quarter of its residents.

    In that time 30 mosques were built, 30,000 Somalis were brought in (by the Lutherans and Catholics), also 40,000 Latinos, 10,000 Hmong, 70,000 blacks…and the queers today brag that its population is over 15% queer.

    This is the new City of God, according to our Christian Princes of the Current Year.

    Most of whom are, in fact, churchy-careerist women.

    The ELCA college that Noor attended lists as its mission, on its own Web site:

    The Augsburg experience is supported by an engaged community that is committed to intentional diversity in its life and work.
     
    Read that again. COMMITTED TO INTENTIONAL DIVERSITY. Not to civilization. Not to the west. Not to the cultivation and expansion of human knowledge. Not even, for the love of lefse, to Jesus.

    In 1962 that college's sponsoring Lutheran church--in the college's words--redefined its mission as serving "the good of society first" and the church itself second.

    What was in the wings at that time, and was formalized not long after?

    The "Civil Rights" Act of 1964, which assembled trillions of dollars over half a century to wage genetic, economic, social, and cultural war on white Americans and their civilization. And gender war on white American men. And create big fat political and NGO careers for the Christian (etc.) Prince(sse)s.

    Our current situation of white replacement and resultant destruction of civilization owes in large part to white Christians cucking for the big-city bolshie program of "diversity."

    It has nothing to do with faith, even less to do with the almighty, and everything to do with money, power, and ego.

    So maybe--just maybe--at some point--whites can start questioning what Christianity brought to the North.

    Which you admit, indirectly, is cucking, weakness, and the feminine as the organizing nexus of society.

    Just one last thing. If you think the Wiccans are PC, you should sometime try a Sons of Norway or Knights of Columbus meeting.

    I am not a pagan, not a Wiccan, and not emoting.

    That’s so cute.

    My heart on this topic is as cold as akkvavit, in part thanks to genes (not something you apparently comprehend), in part thanks to experience.

    LOL! Nice LARPing. I am in complete admiration, especially given your first statement.

    Cucked and femmey religionists can go pound lubber sand up the orifice where you take invaders’ faiths and plead for more. The costs of your beliefs and of your admitted thirst for petty power as retainers to princes are visible to anyone who puts on the glasses.

    Yeah, an atheists have been so wonderful on that front. Communism anyone? Millions dead and still counting. Not holding out that some dude who thinks he’s just a sack of DNA is going to save society and the West.

    But looking sharp on the perceived victimhood. You should go hang out with SJW feminists. I’m sure there’s a cis-male Christian patriarchy you both can complain about. Maybe at a Starbucks?

    Just one last thing. If you think the Wiccans are PC, you should sometime try a Sons of Norway or Knights of Columbus meeting.

    You know I’m totally right about the whole pagan thing. And that’s the problem.

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  137. AM says:
    @Olorin
    You're both shadowboxing for your Christian mistresses.

    I am not a pagan.

    And my ancestors were not "Christians for 1,000 years." That is a slander on their memory.

    And my ancestors were not “Christians for 1,000 years.” That is a slander on their memory.

    Yes, it’s actually much more like 1500 years. But whose counting?

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  138. AM says:
    @Olorin

    You can’t say they are not honest.
     
    Precisely, Bill.

    But why is it that so many people refuse to see that? (As the shadowboxing AM, for instance.)

    I can respect any Christian who sees through this gig. My redneck Christian friends nearly all do.

    I can respect them loving their rabbi (though they seem to love him as a workman or cousin of Odin at Yggdrasil, not as a Huddled Mass victim type) if they don't then turn around and turn him into an excuse for their own will to destroy white men. I.e., themselves.

    You can't claim to care about whites and side with those who systematically destroy us.

    I can respect any Christian who sees through this gig. My redneck Christian friends nearly all do.

    I totally do.

    I can respect them loving their rabbi (though they seem to love him as a workman or cousin of Odin at Yggdrasil, not as a Huddled Mass victim type) if they don’t then turn around and turn him into an excuse for their own will to destroy white men. I.e., themselves.

    You don’t respect them in the least. You don’t know even know what they believe.

    Which is why I think your posts are hilarious. When the chips are down, there’s not a lot that line of thinking offers. It’s all bluster and pagan LARPing. You’ve got nothing to help your friends with, just snark.

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  139. Thea says:

    If Noor is convicted I’ll bet BLM will riot. Not for the life he took, of course she means nothing to them.

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  140. SMK says: • Website
    @Mr. Blank
    Perhaps some enterprising journalist would enlighten us on why, exactly, there is a huge Somali community in Minnesota, of all places.

    I've never seen this curious fact adequately explained. I doubt the Somalis themselves would have picked Minnesota if it had been up to them, and I can't imagine the white community in Minnesota decided they needed a sudden influx of thousands of Somalis -- not that anyone ever bothered to consult them.

    Obviously, myriads of Somalis didn’t decide, all by themselves, to move to Minnesota, a place they didn’t even know existed. The invasion is explained by collusion between the federal government, which chose to allow legions of these Islamic Negroid primitives to enter the United States, with the state government of Minnesota and city and county Governments, the Churches, liberal activists, etc. Ergo, the governing-classes and ruling-elites of Minnesota and the Twin-Cities in particular, tormented by guilt that the black populations of both Minneapolis and St. Paul were less than 20% and thus the Twin-Cities had far less violence and criminality, illegitimacy, welfare dependence, etc., that most large U.S. cities, welcomed myriads of Somalis to “enrich” the state and it’s cities with their unique amalgam of Islamic and East African “cultures.”

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  141. Moshe says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I assume the Israeli part is why you brought his name up.
     
    No, I assume the fact that he is a Jew is why YetAnotherAnon brought it up - the fact that many Jews seem to feel the need, and assume the right, to lecture people about "what X (country) is all about". And "what country X is all about" inevitably leads to the dissolution of the historic population of country X.

    Otherwise, he’s a totally irrelevant conductor that is of no importance whatsoever.
     
    I thought the jewish people were a Light unto the World because of all the talented and accomplished people they produce - people like Daniel Barenboim, who certainly qualifies as talented and accomplished. So, are the only ones who are relevant, and not "of no importance whatsoever", the finaniciers, schemers, and pornographers?

    It turns out that he says that he only meant that the man is a hypocrite in some fashion.

    But yes, I meant Jew, Israeli was just more specific in his case which is why I mentioned it.

    In any case, my point is that he hates Jews and attempts to hurt Jews more than almost everybody on the alt right. In fact, apparently he’s a citizen of Palestine. I’ve known of the man for a decade-and-a-half and trust me whatever damage he wants to do two European countries he wants to do, has attempted to do, and has in part succeeded in doing against Israel, and the Jewish people writ large. Nothing says it more clearly than his awesome interest in sparking horrific PTSD against literal Holocaust Survivors. I personally have no problem with Wagner but apparently it was played in certain camps as Jews were selected for death so obviously plenty of Holocaust Survivors and Israel have a big problem hearing it. Apparently, barenboim, said that he would not play it in one of his concerts and then snuck it in anyway, despite the presence of Holocaust Survivors. I agree with you of course that just as with most people, there are Jews who are shit. Even more so. On account of the fact that Jews are clearly more capable than any other tribe of people, those who do damage are more effective at it. My point with barenboim was only that whatever harm he wishes to do to Non-Jews, he wishes to do, is trying to do and has done more to Jews.

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    Well,............that's all rather a bunch of inside baseball for a gentile. I have no opinion on Barenboim the man, I was only defending him as the musician.
    , @Pat Hannagan
    I personally have no problem with Wagner but apparently it was played in certain camps as Jews were selected for death so obviously plenty of Holocaust Survivors and Israel have a big problem hearing it.

    Lol, what?! You know most of that stuff is all fantasy...don't you?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nS66IvbvcI
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  142. Moshe says:
    @IHTG
    Netanyahu spoke against the Muslim ban, not the wall.

    Correct. He even spoke in support of the wall. Until someone got upset at him, the Mexicans? Anyway, he wrote that the Wall Works in Israel and that it is a great idea and very important for America to have it as well.

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  143. Moshe says:
    @Altai
    Opposing Occupation == Hating Jews? I don't see any comments he makes similar to white gentile liberals about how bad his people are. His partner is even an Englishman who converted to Judaism. Seems more like the unhinged Likudniks went after him as part of a zero tolerance policy of any dissent from their ultimately self-destructive agenda. They can't bridge any high profile Israeli opposition in the West, a very serious threat to narrative control. Since he is a Jew and Israeli they can more easily put social pressure on him to conform, like Goldstone.

    Perhaps I should have been clearer. Anyhow, I just wrote a comment, that I assume we’ll be at the bottom of this thread, that might explain my point more clearly.

    My point relates to Holocaust survivors in large part but also to other matters but, I believe this is the general Viewpoint of most Israelis and most Jews regarding barenboim. He destroys Jews more than he destroy as anybody else.

    Perhaps my point will be ruined by this but you mentioned Likud so I may as well mention that when I was in Israel and very interested in the destiny of Israel and the Jewish people I was far to the right of Likud.

    I assume that you will get some inaccurate information about Menachem Begin but he was, and is, one of my heroes. Like I said, this may make my point in the subsequent post at the bottom of the thread watered down if you consider my personal Viewpoint regarding Israeli politics but, I enjoy the opportunity to speak about the subject that you brought up. I don’t fully understand jabotinsky but he is a hero of mine as well. Followed by, Menachem Begin and Peter bergson and the incredible work that they did in both Israel and America. Peter bergson for the record worked with Ben Hecht, someone Steve brought up a number of times in a different context.

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  144. Corvinus says:
    @AM

    Matthew 5:42–Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
     
    "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." - Matthew 10:16

    It’s simple…Christian brotherhood.
     
    Please note that to have a Christian brotherhood, everyone has to be a Christian??? Or maybe we have to show Christian brotherhood first to our neighbors, friends, and local taxpayers and honor their wishes. Sorry, no asking everyone else to do your good deeds.

    If that be the case, then Jesus Himself who helped the poor and needy was also “cucked”.
     
    Please note that Jesus actually helped the poor and needy himself. He did not apply for grants from the Romans. He also was quoted as saying:

    "You will always have the poor among you, and you can help them whenever you want to. But you will not always have me." Mark 14:7

    Interesting that. Maybe he came to save souls and not eradicate poverty (or war) from the face of the Earth.


    These religious organizations dispensed charity and created parochial schools, which is no different than what “cucks” are doing today when they assist immigrants.
     
    With that tiny little proviso that they're getting millions from the Federal government and using it, in part to shore up church structures about to fail from lack of buttocks in pews. Back then it was 100% local money. So in fact it's totally different from what cucked do-gooders who cherry pick from the Gospels to create a hippie Jesus do to justify taxing others in an attempt to do work that Jesus did not call them to do.

    “Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.” – Matthew 10:16″

    Indeed. Risk your life as a vulnerable, non-combative, courageous witness to His greatness by assisting your neighbor, but in a way as to give your witness that does not bring unnecessary persecution. Jesus is aware of the hardships His disciples face as they live by faith. He wants us to know what we are getting ourselves into when we preach His word and engage in His work, especially if there are critics.

    “Interesting that. Maybe he came to save souls and not eradicate poverty (or war) from the face of the Earth.”

    Jesus accounted the evil in the world as the result of sin–the sins of the rich, the sins of the poor, the sins of the sloth and envy, etc. Thus, by cleansing one of sin, which devalues the sacredness of life and our dignity, we tackle the injustices brought forth by poverty and war.

    God designed us to live and serve in the community. We may take into account “There will always be people who will need your help”, which suggests that we share what we have accumulated so as those in need (“the poor”) were not left to starve. The “poor” will always remain, but it is His command that they are cared for.

    “With that tiny little proviso that they’re getting millions from the Federal government and using it, in part to shore up church structures about to fail from lack of buttocks in pews. Back then it was 100% local money. So in fact it’s totally different from what cucked do-gooders who cherry pick from the Gospels to create a hippie Jesus do to justify taxing others in an attempt to do work that Jesus did not call them to do.”

    God and Jesus clearly called for His followers to help the poor and defend the weak from the wicked. You are perverting the faith to serve your own ends. And “cucked do-gooders”? God and Jesus would scoff at that term. Begone!

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    Risk your life as a vulnerable, non-combative, courageous witness to His greatness by assisting your neighbor, but in a way as to give your witness that does not bring unnecessary persecution.
     
    You knew the apostles carried swords right?

    We're not supposed to be Jesus, unless there is no other choice. That's to encourage evil. He died for our sins, in part so we don't have to throw ourselves out as literal martyrs.

    Noone in the today's church is even close to martyring themselves as the rest of the paragraph implies, but that's whole another post.


    Jesus accounted the evil in the world as the result of sin–the sins of the rich, the sins of the poor, the sins of the sloth and envy, etc. Thus, by cleansing one of sin, which devalues the sacredness of life and our dignity, we tackle the injustices brought forth by poverty and war.
     
    No. Jesus swept away the cost of original and personal sin, which was being denied access to Heaven. Everyone's souls is still in jeopardy and theirs to ask to save. We tackle the injustices of poverty and war to learn to love God's creation. If God wanted to fix those things Himself, permanently, He would have.

    God designed us to live and serve in the community.
     
    No. He designed us to love Him. How you learn to love Him is to love your neighbor, meant literally. Like the difficult ones. Personally. That white "trash" kid giving you snark.

    That's why socialism is completely meaningless. Being taxed for "good deeds" does not do a thing for your soul, personally. It also does nothing for the poor person, either, as it does not remove their isolation from the greater community and attempt to lift them up into a state where they try to be self reliant.


    God and Jesus clearly called for His followers to help the poor and defend the weak from the wicked. You are perverting the faith to serve your own ends. And “cucked do-gooders”? God and Jesus would scoff at that term. Begone!
     
    Jesus even warned repeatedly, as in the passage I gave you, that people would mistake salvation for good works. He spends seemingly endless time pointing out the Pharisees.

    The church today is a sea of Pharisees. The thinking here perfectly outlines salvation by works. Give to the poor (it does not matter how we get that money), give away our children's heritage to strangers (so much easier to love than the imperfection in front of us), whine at politicians to raise taxes so the poor are shut away from sight (solved that problem!). Then claim the faith was about making utopia and "polite speech", even as Jesus turns tables in temples and makes it clear His Kingdom was not here.
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  145. @Anon
    Way to miss the point.

    You lost me too, then. Fnn was trying to explain to you that since blacks commit a much higher than proportional percentage of crimes, your rebuttal to Wally did not prove anything.

    I agree with you, fnn, that there aren’t many flat-out executions like this job by the moron Somalian, and I’m not the biggest promoter of the guys in blue myself.

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  146. donut says:
    @syonredux

    He hopes the conversation will focus on police reform, not racial stereotypes.
     
    Hey, I'm all for police reform. How about setting 115 as the minimum IQ for being a cop.....

    I’m sorry that I can’t give a source for this but I did read somewhere within the past year or so that the police do not like to hire high IQ types as they become bored too quickly with the job .
    A few years ago I watched on youtube more true crime shows than I care to admit . One thing I got from that was that how intelligent a police officer was was not an important factor in solving crimes . Following procedures developed over years and persistence is what solves crimes .
    The show The First 48 Hrs. doesn’t count because the miscreants are so stupid that they solve the crime for you . But all the same the detectives involved followed proven procedures . Shout out to Sgt. Caroline Mason .
    Where I live in Towson my interactions with the police have all been positive even though they’re giving me a ticket that I had coming . In Baltimore not so much .
    I have lived in 14 states and 7 cities of over 500.000 pop. My experiences with the police have ranged from pleasant to frightening and they were all traffic related BTW . On the other hand I can say the same for my experiences with doctors .

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  147. @Steve Sailer
    Another thing about Indian reservation casinos is that many federal environmental regulations don't apply to them, so it's much easier to build golf courses next to casinos than anywhere else in the country. I played beautiful Barona Creek golf course outside San Diego in 2001 with the designer. As a California golf architect, most of the courses he had designed over the last decade didn't exist except on blueprints and in endless regulatory hearings. In contrast, this Indian casino course had opened within 18 months of being conceived.

    Steve, I have been thinking for some years that any patriot groups, militias, and so forth that will eventually have to cause trouble with the Feral Government (rightfully, I’ll add right now) may see a strategic move in allying with some bigger Indian tribe. They are SUPPOSED to be different nations from the US, but nobody knows which part of Federal law the Indians are really held too, as they may not have pushed it, yet.

    The Feds will, of course, come up with any excuse they want to for clamping down on any flaunting of laws they really want to uphold. Still, there must be quite a few Indians around who have some pride and aren’t just beholden to the alcohol and the gambling money. They’ve got a few beefs from way back, as do most of us, at this point.

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  148. Is Don Damond wearing Hare Krishna beads? Not questioning his belief, just making an observation.

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  149. @jim jones
    Somalis can be identified by their characteristic "lightbulb head":

    http://imgur.com/a/rHfhG

    Somalis can be identified by their characteristic “lightbulb head”:

    Dang, even for me that’s pretty politically incorrect! I can see the shape of those Somalian’s heads. They do look like incandescent bulbs, but they are KILLING THE PLANET, MAN! Very un-pc, there, but I’m trying to think of a race whose heads look like those curly-que new energy-saving mercury-filled ones, and I can’t come up with anything.

    OK, carry on, I guess that is forgivable – we’ll talk more down in Guyana over kool-aid, Jim. Have a good evening.

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  150. AM says:
    @Corvinus
    “Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.” – Matthew 10:16"

    Indeed. Risk your life as a vulnerable, non-combative, courageous witness to His greatness by assisting your neighbor, but in a way as to give your witness that does not bring unnecessary persecution. Jesus is aware of the hardships His disciples face as they live by faith. He wants us to know what we are getting ourselves into when we preach His word and engage in His work, especially if there are critics.

    "Interesting that. Maybe he came to save souls and not eradicate poverty (or war) from the face of the Earth."

    Jesus accounted the evil in the world as the result of sin--the sins of the rich, the sins of the poor, the sins of the sloth and envy, etc. Thus, by cleansing one of sin, which devalues the sacredness of life and our dignity, we tackle the injustices brought forth by poverty and war.

    God designed us to live and serve in the community. We may take into account “There will always be people who will need your help", which suggests that we share what we have accumulated so as those in need (“the poor”) were not left to starve. The “poor” will always remain, but it is His command that they are cared for.

    "With that tiny little proviso that they’re getting millions from the Federal government and using it, in part to shore up church structures about to fail from lack of buttocks in pews. Back then it was 100% local money. So in fact it’s totally different from what cucked do-gooders who cherry pick from the Gospels to create a hippie Jesus do to justify taxing others in an attempt to do work that Jesus did not call them to do."

    God and Jesus clearly called for His followers to help the poor and defend the weak from the wicked. You are perverting the faith to serve your own ends. And "cucked do-gooders"? God and Jesus would scoff at that term. Begone!

    Risk your life as a vulnerable, non-combative, courageous witness to His greatness by assisting your neighbor, but in a way as to give your witness that does not bring unnecessary persecution.

    You knew the apostles carried swords right?

    We’re not supposed to be Jesus, unless there is no other choice. That’s to encourage evil. He died for our sins, in part so we don’t have to throw ourselves out as literal martyrs.

    Noone in the today’s church is even close to martyring themselves as the rest of the paragraph implies, but that’s whole another post.

    Jesus accounted the evil in the world as the result of sin–the sins of the rich, the sins of the poor, the sins of the sloth and envy, etc. Thus, by cleansing one of sin, which devalues the sacredness of life and our dignity, we tackle the injustices brought forth by poverty and war.

    No. Jesus swept away the cost of original and personal sin, which was being denied access to Heaven. Everyone’s souls is still in jeopardy and theirs to ask to save. We tackle the injustices of poverty and war to learn to love God’s creation. If God wanted to fix those things Himself, permanently, He would have.

    God designed us to live and serve in the community.

    No. He designed us to love Him. How you learn to love Him is to love your neighbor, meant literally. Like the difficult ones. Personally. That white “trash” kid giving you snark.

    That’s why socialism is completely meaningless. Being taxed for “good deeds” does not do a thing for your soul, personally. It also does nothing for the poor person, either, as it does not remove their isolation from the greater community and attempt to lift them up into a state where they try to be self reliant.

    God and Jesus clearly called for His followers to help the poor and defend the weak from the wicked. You are perverting the faith to serve your own ends. And “cucked do-gooders”? God and Jesus would scoff at that term. Begone!

    Jesus even warned repeatedly, as in the passage I gave you, that people would mistake salvation for good works. He spends seemingly endless time pointing out the Pharisees.

    The church today is a sea of Pharisees. The thinking here perfectly outlines salvation by works. Give to the poor (it does not matter how we get that money), give away our children’s heritage to strangers (so much easier to love than the imperfection in front of us), whine at politicians to raise taxes so the poor are shut away from sight (solved that problem!). Then claim the faith was about making utopia and “polite speech”, even as Jesus turns tables in temples and makes it clear His Kingdom was not here.

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    "You knew the apostles carried swords right?"

    Let's look at the context here. It is difficult to imagine Jesus informing his Disciples to purchase swords, considering:

    "...for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword" (Matthew 26:52)

    -and-

    "Put your sword back in its place,' Jesus said to him... (Matthew 26:52)

    He never intended resistance if captured, nor would allow such a weapon to be drawn and used. Now, machaira (Greek for sword) is defined as a knife, dirk, or sword. Jesus reminded His disciples of their long journey without "purse, passports, or shoes". However, they would require sustenance and protection, which would lend itself that a knife, rather than a sword, would be most suited.

    "We’re not supposed to be Jesus, unless there is no other choice. That’s to encourage evil. He died for our sins, in part so we don’t have to throw ourselves out as literal martyrs."

    You are twisting and turning His commands. Why? Only God knows. Simply and clearly, people who help the poor are adhering to His word.

    "Noone in the today’s church is even close to martyring themselves as the rest of the paragraph implies, but that’s whole another post."

    That would be YOUR interpretation, which you are certainly entitled to it. Do you scrutinize your priest, pastor, or minister in a similar fashion when he delivers his sermon with a message that runs counter to how you look at things?

    "No. Jesus swept away the cost of original and personal sin, which was being denied access to Heaven. Everyone’s souls is still in jeopardy and theirs to ask to save. We tackle the injustices of poverty and war to learn to love God’s creation. If God wanted to fix those things Himself, permanently, He would have."

    God gave us free will. From free will comes people's decisions to adhere to His word, or to engage in sin. God is perfect, human beings are not. We are left to tend to our own creations and devices.

    "That’s why socialism is completely meaningless. Being taxed for “good deeds” does not do a thing for your soul, personally. It also does nothing for the poor person, either, as it does not remove their isolation from the greater community and attempt to lift them up into a state where they try to be self reliant.

    "Jesus even warned repeatedly, as in the passage I gave you, that people would mistake salvation for good works. He spends seemingly endless time pointing out the Pharisees."

    Genuine salvation is entirely of God and it inevitably results in a life of good works. Salvation is entirely of God. Good words follow that salvation. He has ordained this process from start to finish.

    "The church today is a sea of Pharisees..."

    Thank you very much for your opinion on the matter. How do you address your priest, pastor, minister, or fellow Christian who hold different views and employ Scripture as spiritual evidence to back up their interpretations?

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  151. @whorefinder
    Affirmative action and mass immigration -in action.

    Funny, if the Somali "community" were acting like decent human beings, they'd be ashamed of this act by one of their own and publicly apologizing and trying to make amends, and wouldn't mention one iota of blame or apprehension at being stereotyped.

    This is how you know that Somali community isn't filled with decent human beings.

    The equivalent would be a bunch of Italian Americans of the 1970s worrying about a "backlash" after the another major Mafia kingpin was felled.

    Don’t remember any worried Italians in 1970s about Mafioso related backlash, on the contrary, they seemed to gloat about it to the point of annoyance. Of course, that should not stop Somalis from doing collective penance…

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  152. Corvinus says:
    @AM

    Risk your life as a vulnerable, non-combative, courageous witness to His greatness by assisting your neighbor, but in a way as to give your witness that does not bring unnecessary persecution.
     
    You knew the apostles carried swords right?

    We're not supposed to be Jesus, unless there is no other choice. That's to encourage evil. He died for our sins, in part so we don't have to throw ourselves out as literal martyrs.

    Noone in the today's church is even close to martyring themselves as the rest of the paragraph implies, but that's whole another post.


    Jesus accounted the evil in the world as the result of sin–the sins of the rich, the sins of the poor, the sins of the sloth and envy, etc. Thus, by cleansing one of sin, which devalues the sacredness of life and our dignity, we tackle the injustices brought forth by poverty and war.
     
    No. Jesus swept away the cost of original and personal sin, which was being denied access to Heaven. Everyone's souls is still in jeopardy and theirs to ask to save. We tackle the injustices of poverty and war to learn to love God's creation. If God wanted to fix those things Himself, permanently, He would have.

    God designed us to live and serve in the community.
     
    No. He designed us to love Him. How you learn to love Him is to love your neighbor, meant literally. Like the difficult ones. Personally. That white "trash" kid giving you snark.

    That's why socialism is completely meaningless. Being taxed for "good deeds" does not do a thing for your soul, personally. It also does nothing for the poor person, either, as it does not remove their isolation from the greater community and attempt to lift them up into a state where they try to be self reliant.


    God and Jesus clearly called for His followers to help the poor and defend the weak from the wicked. You are perverting the faith to serve your own ends. And “cucked do-gooders”? God and Jesus would scoff at that term. Begone!
     
    Jesus even warned repeatedly, as in the passage I gave you, that people would mistake salvation for good works. He spends seemingly endless time pointing out the Pharisees.

    The church today is a sea of Pharisees. The thinking here perfectly outlines salvation by works. Give to the poor (it does not matter how we get that money), give away our children's heritage to strangers (so much easier to love than the imperfection in front of us), whine at politicians to raise taxes so the poor are shut away from sight (solved that problem!). Then claim the faith was about making utopia and "polite speech", even as Jesus turns tables in temples and makes it clear His Kingdom was not here.

    “You knew the apostles carried swords right?”

    Let’s look at the context here. It is difficult to imagine Jesus informing his Disciples to purchase swords, considering:

    “…for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword” (Matthew 26:52)

    -and-

    “Put your sword back in its place,’ Jesus said to him… (Matthew 26:52)

    He never intended resistance if captured, nor would allow such a weapon to be drawn and used. Now, machaira (Greek for sword) is defined as a knife, dirk, or sword. Jesus reminded His disciples of their long journey without “purse, passports, or shoes”. However, they would require sustenance and protection, which would lend itself that a knife, rather than a sword, would be most suited.

    “We’re not supposed to be Jesus, unless there is no other choice. That’s to encourage evil. He died for our sins, in part so we don’t have to throw ourselves out as literal martyrs.”

    You are twisting and turning His commands. Why? Only God knows. Simply and clearly, people who help the poor are adhering to His word.

    “Noone in the today’s church is even close to martyring themselves as the rest of the paragraph implies, but that’s whole another post.”

    That would be YOUR interpretation, which you are certainly entitled to it. Do you scrutinize your priest, pastor, or minister in a similar fashion when he delivers his sermon with a message that runs counter to how you look at things?

    “No. Jesus swept away the cost of original and personal sin, which was being denied access to Heaven. Everyone’s souls is still in jeopardy and theirs to ask to save. We tackle the injustices of poverty and war to learn to love God’s creation. If God wanted to fix those things Himself, permanently, He would have.”

    God gave us free will. From free will comes people’s decisions to adhere to His word, or to engage in sin. God is perfect, human beings are not. We are left to tend to our own creations and devices.

    “That’s why socialism is completely meaningless. Being taxed for “good deeds” does not do a thing for your soul, personally. It also does nothing for the poor person, either, as it does not remove their isolation from the greater community and attempt to lift them up into a state where they try to be self reliant.

    “Jesus even warned repeatedly, as in the passage I gave you, that people would mistake salvation for good works. He spends seemingly endless time pointing out the Pharisees.”

    Genuine salvation is entirely of God and it inevitably results in a life of good works. Salvation is entirely of God. Good words follow that salvation. He has ordained this process from start to finish.

    “The church today is a sea of Pharisees…”

    Thank you very much for your opinion on the matter. How do you address your priest, pastor, minister, or fellow Christian who hold different views and employ Scripture as spiritual evidence to back up their interpretations?

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  153. Gosh damn corvinus you really take the cake for mendacious tap dancing and selective literalism.

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    He is the twittiest twit of all twits.
    , @Corvinus
    "Gosh damn corvinus you really take the cake for mendacious tap dancing and selective literalism."

    I believe, sir, that is the nicest thing you ever said to me. Are you finally seeking His counsel?
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  154. AM says:

    Let’s look at the context here. It is difficult to imagine Jesus informing his Disciples to purchase swords, considering:

    He told them to carry swords to defend themselves. He knew He was about die. They would need more than “Stop or I’ll say stop again” if they encountered unlawful mobs or bandits as they would all be traveling mostly alone. Then He warned them to not declare a religious war (die by the sword) and to not interfere with His crucifixion. If Christ wanted to people to be pacifists, he would have said so directly instead of directing the apostles to the nearest armory, which He actually did (sell your cloaks..).

    You are twisting and turning His commands. Why? Only God knows. Simply and clearly, people who help the poor are adhering to His word.

    I’m quoting the Gospel without “Hippie/Pacifist” Jesus glasses on. I’m sure it sounds like twisting to you because I’m just presenting a much more complete picture. Yes, people who help the poor, in the way I outlined, are adhering to His word. Simply and clearly, however, that wasn’t the only concept in those Gospels, not by a long shot.

    . Do you scrutinize your priest, pastor, or minister in a similar fashion when he delivers his sermon

    Yes. No worries, I’m not singling you out. ;)

    We are left to tend to our own creations and devices.

    By following the 10 Commandments with love your neighbor (personally) as a our guidelines as how we show love for God.

    Genuine salvation is entirely of God and it inevitably results in a life of good works.

    Yes, with those good works being your good works..like following the commandments, loving your neighbor, or skipping a much wanted vacation to give to the poor in person. Applying for government grants is not the inevitable results of following Christ.

    How do you address your priest, pastor, minister, or fellow Christian who hold different views and employ Scripture as spiritual evidence to back up their interpretations?

    Pretty much like this, although it’s a waste of time in the church of the cucked. Christ himself spent a whole lot more time with societies’ untouchables (Hint: that would be “racists” or “white trash”) than with it’s Pharisees. Christ is present anyway at church and that is enough reason alone to go.

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    "He told them to carry swords to defend themselves. He knew He was about die. They would need more than “Stop or I’ll say stop again” if they encountered unlawful mobs or bandits as they would all be traveling mostly alone. Then He warned them to not declare a religious war (die by the sword) and to not interfere with His crucifixion. If Christ wanted to people to be pacifists, he would have said so directly instead of directing the apostles to the nearest armory, which He actually did (sell your cloaks..)."

    Jesus instructed His disciples in how to behave in their ministry. The world was purposefully hostile to believers. In this environment, he taught them to advance His message without being predatory themselves by simultaneously employing the wisdom of the serpent with the harmlessness of the dove. The "sword" was symbolic here. He warned His disciples about persecution. Do nobody any harm, nor ill-will. They are to be prudent in their actions. Avoid the pitfalls (the snares of the serpent) and do not stoop to deception, but be peaceful (the ways of the dove). "Wisdom does not equal dishonesty, and innocence does not equal gullibility."

    "I’m quoting the Gospel without “Hippie/Pacifist” Jesus glasses on. I’m sure it sounds like twisting to you because I’m just presenting a much more complete picture."

    What I offered is not "Hippie/Pacifist", but what He has made it abundantly clear.

    "Yes, people who help the poor, in the way I outlined, are adhering to His word."

    It is not the way YOU outlined it, but how He has outlined it, which was presented clearly by Him.

    "Do you scrutinize your priest, pastor, or minister in a similar fashion when he delivers his sermon? Yes. No worries, I’m not singling you out."

    So how do you know that your interpretation on Scripture is "correct" or "right" compared to your priest, pastor, or minister?

    "By following the 10 Commandments with love your neighbor (personally) as a our guidelines as how we show love for God."

    Love your neighbor "personally" also includes helping out the poor even if there is no established friendship or relationship there.

    Luke 6:38--"Give, and you will receive. You will be given much. Pressed down, shaken together, and running over, it will spill into your lap. The way you give to others is the way God will give to you.”

    "Pretty much like this, although it’s a waste of time in the church of the cucked."

    So you merely stating your spiritual opinion. Now, should only YOUR interpretation of the Good Book ought to be adhered to since most people are "cucked"? Because that appears to be your message. How do you know for certain that the "church is cucked"? Would not God only truly know? Would He even use that word to describe his flock? Are you not in essence putting words in His mouth?

    Regardless, "cuck" is an overused term that observably means nothing to those who believe in His Greatness.
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  155. @syonredux

    He hopes the conversation will focus on police reform, not racial stereotypes.
     
    Hey, I'm all for police reform. How about setting 115 as the minimum IQ for being a cop.....

    Firearms and “defensive tactics” training that is “realistic and regularly reinforced” would be far more effective in fixing what’s wrong with street cops. Forget the bureaucratic BS of firing to meet the state qualification standards — begin with basic motor-skills training and progress to realistic scenario training in venues such as a “shoot house”.

    Contrary to the popular belief that has been informed by self serving PD propaganda, regular patrol officers are poorly-trained in use-of-force tools and tactics. Most of their training is focused on paperwork procedures and how to best implement the ever-shifting priorities of political correctness. (SWAT team officers, particularly those on full-time big-city teams, are the exception to this rule, at least where firearms usage and physical fitness are concerned.)

    There are myriad reasons for this state of affairs, but the Gordian knot could be cut if a concerned public was aware of how pitifully unprepared most American police officers are to successfully conclude a use-of-force incident.

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  156. @Jack Hanson
    Gosh damn corvinus you really take the cake for mendacious tap dancing and selective literalism.

    He is the twittiest twit of all twits.

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  157. @jim jones
    Somalis can be identified by their characteristic "lightbulb head":

    http://imgur.com/a/rHfhG

    And their geekily-elongated Slenderman limbs.

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  158. @BenjaminL
    City Journal has been doing a pretty good (i.e. unbelievably depressing) job covering the various "Minnesota Nice" disasters:

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/no-thug-left-behind-14951.html
    https://www.city-journal.org/html/curious-case-ilhan-omar-14724.html
    https://www.city-journal.org/html/isis-twin-cities-14593.html

    Out, out, out!

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  159. @Harry Baldwin
    He and others in the Somali community have protested other police shootings in the Twin Cities region along with Black Lives Matter, but this one “changes the narrative,” he said. Usually, they are protesting the death of black men at the hands of police, he said. Now it is a white woman reportedly shot by a black officer.

    Yes, indeed, consistency would demand that this calls for White Lives Matter protests and excoriation of black police officers, so it "changes the narrative" to one in which race is no longer a factor. Very convenient for those who get to decide what the narrative is.

    As so many times before, YT is guilty of failing to riot.

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  160. Usually, they are protesting the death of black men at the hands of police, he said. Now it is a white woman reportedly shot by a black officer.

    “Reportedly”? Why aren’t the alleged deaths of “black men at the hands of police” merely “reported”?

    The WaPo is deliberately lying.

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  161. @Olorin
    The one-word answer:

    Lutherans.


    LSS Refugee Services began operating in the mid-1970’s in response to the crisis occurring in Southeast Asia. Refugees started to arrive in Minnesota from countries such as Cambodia, Vietnam, and Laos. During the 1980’s, LSS Refugee Services continued to resettle refugees from Asia, as well as countries such as Ethiopia. During the 1990’s and into the twenty-first century, conflicts in East and West Africa and the changing political situations in Eastern Europe brought refugees from these regions into Minnesota.

    As it has in the past, LSS Refugee Services continues to play an instrumental role in assisting refugees from around the world start their new lives in Minnesota.

    http://unitedwayhelps.galaxydigital.com/volunteer/agency/display/lutheran-social-service-of-minnesota--refugee-services/?agency_id=39018
     

    Location of the national headquarters of Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services?

    Baltimore.

    http://lirs.org/locations/

    See page 2 of their Form 990, item #1, for their assertion that God supports white genocide as he pours nearly $60 million in their coffers so they can "transform communities" through "migrants and refugees."

    http://lirs.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Form-990-2015-Final.pdf

    Note also the plump salaries of its executives. Page 8, Part VII.

    LIRS partners with Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota.

    http://www.lssmn.org/AndWhoIsMyNeighbor/

    My Neighbor Is Muslim
    http://www.lssmn.org/refugeeservices/study/

    Now I'm focusing on the Looterans because Officer al-Shooty bin BangBang took his much-reported college degree from Augsburg College--a private Looteran (ELCA for those keeping splinter group score) diploma mill in the most Third World part of Mpls.

    It appears to specialize in pushing brown people through and getting them positioned to feed at the affirmative action trough while displacing native-born and founding-stock Americans. Its student body is 42 percent nonwhite (Mpls is 26 percent nonwhite, and Minnesota, 23 percent) and they receive hefty amounts of grant bling from the Lutherans to attend this surprisingly pricey institution.

    So I figure the Loots were instrumental in foisting him upon the city and arming him.

    But there are other religious refugee resettlement organizations with a lot of power and money in MN as well:

    http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/idepc/refugee/topics/resettlement.html

    The Catlicks even illustrate their home page with a Muzzie family with, at the time of photo, three offspring of elementary school age.

    https://www.cctwincities.org/locations/refugee-reception-placement/

    According to Pew Research, Minneapolis's population is 70% Christian with Protestants at about 2:1 over Catlicks. I seem to recall that Catlicks comprise Minnesota's largest religious affiliation with ELCA running second by about half a million.

    And trads/neoTrads wonder why some of us have such antipathy to the Rabbi On A Stick cults that invaded the North a millennium ago...and never stop trying to vanquish us and our ancestors and descendants with new invaders.

    Excellent research, sir. Thank you.

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  162. @Dave Pinsen
    There are a lot of annoying things about living where I do, including nosebleed property taxes, in part to pay high police salaries, but one plus is the hiring for police jobs is highly competitive. I can't imagine Mohamed Noor getting a police job here.

    There are a lot of annoying things about living where I do, including nosebleed property taxes, in part to pay high police salaries, but one plus is the hiring for police jobs is highly competitive. I can’t imagine Mohamed Noor getting a police job here.

    You live in Japan?

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  163. @Hugh

    Several far-right blogs featured sensational headlines that blamed the officer’s ethnicity, not his training, for the deadly use of force.
     
    Wow! What's officer training based on in the Twin Cities? Terminator 2 reruns?

    The problem in this specific case is police hiring, more than training.

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  164. @Anon
    That would be impressive were it not for the fact that there are six times as many whites as blacks.

    That would be impressive were it not for the fact that there are six times as many whites as blacks.

    Four-and-a-half times as many.

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  165. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    the fact that many Jews seem to feel the need, and assume the right, to lecture people about “what X (country) is all about”. And “what country X is all about” inevitably leads to the dissolution of the historic population of country X.
     
    There is a lot of information in this thread to the effect that Lutherans and Catholics and not Jews were the ones most responsible for bringing large #s of Somalis to the Twin Cities area. Do you feel the same about these groups or only Jews?

    Are Jews not part of the "historic population" of America or the West in general? Do they not have the right to express their views to the same extent as other American citizens of "historic stock"? If not, which groups are entitled to speak for "real" Americans? What if your ancestors came from Germany in the early 19th century? Do you also have to keep your mouth shut? Lutherans have only been around since 1521 but there have been Jews in the West since Roman times.

    There is a lot of information in this thread to the effect that Lutherans and Catholics and not Jews were the ones most responsible for bringing large #s of Somalis to the Twin Cities area. Do you feel the same about these groups or only Jews?

    Yes, I don’t like Catholic and Lutheran groups who do this either. However, they do not have nearly the megaphone that many Jews have. Hollywood isn’t dominated by Catholics and Lutherans.

    Are Jews not part of the “historic population” of America or the West in general?

    The founding stock of America? No, not really. A historic population of Europe? Yes, but as a self-consicously separate group.

    Do they not have the right to express their views to the same extent as other American citizens of “historic stock”?

    Sure, of course they do. And gentiles have a right to point out that they may be acting from motives of ethnic self-interest. However, if they choose to avail themselves of that right, they might be rendered, essentially, unpersons.

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  166. Mr. Anon says:
    @Moshe
    It turns out that he says that he only meant that the man is a hypocrite in some fashion.

    But yes, I meant Jew, Israeli was just more specific in his case which is why I mentioned it.

    In any case, my point is that he hates Jews and attempts to hurt Jews more than almost everybody on the alt right. In fact, apparently he's a citizen of Palestine. I've known of the man for a decade-and-a-half and trust me whatever damage he wants to do two European countries he wants to do, has attempted to do, and has in part succeeded in doing against Israel, and the Jewish people writ large. Nothing says it more clearly than his awesome interest in sparking horrific PTSD against literal Holocaust Survivors. I personally have no problem with Wagner but apparently it was played in certain camps as Jews were selected for death so obviously plenty of Holocaust Survivors and Israel have a big problem hearing it. Apparently, barenboim, said that he would not play it in one of his concerts and then snuck it in anyway, despite the presence of Holocaust Survivors. I agree with you of course that just as with most people, there are Jews who are shit. Even more so. On account of the fact that Jews are clearly more capable than any other tribe of people, those who do damage are more effective at it. My point with barenboim was only that whatever harm he wishes to do to Non-Jews, he wishes to do, is trying to do and has done more to Jews.

    Well,…………that’s all rather a bunch of inside baseball for a gentile. I have no opinion on Barenboim the man, I was only defending him as the musician.

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  167. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus
    "No, I assume the fact that he is a Jew is why YetAnotherAnon brought it up – the fact that many Jews seem to feel the need, and assume the right, to lecture people about “what X (country) is all about”. And “what country X is all about” inevitably leads to the dissolution of the historic population of country X."

    Ironic, considering you are compelled to demand that people know what America is supposedly about, and that anyone who deviates from it is partaking from genocide. And, what about those tribal groups who heard the same message from Europeans. Did not they "lecture" Indians (feather, not dot)? Did not European actions lead to the "dissolution of the historic population of North/South America"?

    I have already replied to Jack D and Moshe, both of whom are reasonable men, and men whom I respect. Their opinions are always interesting and worthwhile, even when I do not agree with them.

    Your opinions, on the other hand, aren’t worth a bucket of warm spit. They could be replicated by a monkey with a pencil randomly circling words from an NPR transcript. I have no respect for you.

    So, go hang.

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  168. @Jack D

    the fact that many Jews seem to feel the need, and assume the right, to lecture people about “what X (country) is all about”. And “what country X is all about” inevitably leads to the dissolution of the historic population of country X.
     
    There is a lot of information in this thread to the effect that Lutherans and Catholics and not Jews were the ones most responsible for bringing large #s of Somalis to the Twin Cities area. Do you feel the same about these groups or only Jews?

    Are Jews not part of the "historic population" of America or the West in general? Do they not have the right to express their views to the same extent as other American citizens of "historic stock"? If not, which groups are entitled to speak for "real" Americans? What if your ancestors came from Germany in the early 19th century? Do you also have to keep your mouth shut? Lutherans have only been around since 1521 but there have been Jews in the West since Roman times.

    There is a lot of information in this thread to the effect that Lutherans and Catholics and not Jews were the ones most responsible for bringing large #s of Somalis to the Twin Cities area. Do you feel the same about these groups or only Jews?

    There are followers, and there are leaders.

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  169. Mr. Anon says:
    @IHTG
    Netanyahu spoke against the Muslim ban, not the wall.

    Netanyahu spoke against the Muslim ban, not the wall.

    There is nothing wrong with banning all muslims entry to the United States. It wasn’t any of his business. And I have to wonder why he did it. I suppose he, like most people, probably didn’t think Trump had a chance of winning at the time.

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  170. @Mr. Anon
    Well,............that's all rather a bunch of inside baseball for a gentile. I have no opinion on Barenboim the man, I was only defending him as the musician.

    I shook hands with Daniel Barenboim once, around 1990, when my father in law was leading a Chicago Symphony Orchestra strike. He had just been hired to conduct the CSO, so he dropped by the union hall to introduce himself and say he was looking forward to conducting everybody once the strike was settled. He was just about the most elegant man I’ve ever met, although I haven’t met any other superstar conductors.

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  171. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Jack D
    If where you lived had a large black or Somali population there would be political pressure to have the police force "reflect the community" and maybe anti-discrimination lawsuits from the (Obama) Dept. of Justice if you had a qualification test that was not easy enough for low IQ blacks to pass. Don't imagine that you are immune just because you are living in some whitopia suburb - it's only a matter of time before the Eye of Soros turns its gaze on your community. The people of Ferguson once thought they were immune too.

    This ain’t no whitopia.

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  172. @Moshe
    It turns out that he says that he only meant that the man is a hypocrite in some fashion.

    But yes, I meant Jew, Israeli was just more specific in his case which is why I mentioned it.

    In any case, my point is that he hates Jews and attempts to hurt Jews more than almost everybody on the alt right. In fact, apparently he's a citizen of Palestine. I've known of the man for a decade-and-a-half and trust me whatever damage he wants to do two European countries he wants to do, has attempted to do, and has in part succeeded in doing against Israel, and the Jewish people writ large. Nothing says it more clearly than his awesome interest in sparking horrific PTSD against literal Holocaust Survivors. I personally have no problem with Wagner but apparently it was played in certain camps as Jews were selected for death so obviously plenty of Holocaust Survivors and Israel have a big problem hearing it. Apparently, barenboim, said that he would not play it in one of his concerts and then snuck it in anyway, despite the presence of Holocaust Survivors. I agree with you of course that just as with most people, there are Jews who are shit. Even more so. On account of the fact that Jews are clearly more capable than any other tribe of people, those who do damage are more effective at it. My point with barenboim was only that whatever harm he wishes to do to Non-Jews, he wishes to do, is trying to do and has done more to Jews.

    I personally have no problem with Wagner but apparently it was played in certain camps as Jews were selected for death so obviously plenty of Holocaust Survivors and Israel have a big problem hearing it.

    Lol, what?! You know most of that stuff is all fantasy…don’t you?

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  173. Corvinus says:
    @AM

    Let’s look at the context here. It is difficult to imagine Jesus informing his Disciples to purchase swords, considering:
     
    He told them to carry swords to defend themselves. He knew He was about die. They would need more than "Stop or I'll say stop again" if they encountered unlawful mobs or bandits as they would all be traveling mostly alone. Then He warned them to not declare a religious war (die by the sword) and to not interfere with His crucifixion. If Christ wanted to people to be pacifists, he would have said so directly instead of directing the apostles to the nearest armory, which He actually did (sell your cloaks..).

    You are twisting and turning His commands. Why? Only God knows. Simply and clearly, people who help the poor are adhering to His word.
     
    I'm quoting the Gospel without "Hippie/Pacifist" Jesus glasses on. I'm sure it sounds like twisting to you because I'm just presenting a much more complete picture. Yes, people who help the poor, in the way I outlined, are adhering to His word. Simply and clearly, however, that wasn't the only concept in those Gospels, not by a long shot.

    . Do you scrutinize your priest, pastor, or minister in a similar fashion when he delivers his sermon
     
    Yes. No worries, I'm not singling you out. ;)

    We are left to tend to our own creations and devices.
     
    By following the 10 Commandments with love your neighbor (personally) as a our guidelines as how we show love for God.

    Genuine salvation is entirely of God and it inevitably results in a life of good works.
     
    Yes, with those good works being your good works..like following the commandments, loving your neighbor, or skipping a much wanted vacation to give to the poor in person. Applying for government grants is not the inevitable results of following Christ.

    How do you address your priest, pastor, minister, or fellow Christian who hold different views and employ Scripture as spiritual evidence to back up their interpretations?
     
    Pretty much like this, although it's a waste of time in the church of the cucked. Christ himself spent a whole lot more time with societies' untouchables (Hint: that would be "racists" or "white trash") than with it's Pharisees. Christ is present anyway at church and that is enough reason alone to go.

    “He told them to carry swords to defend themselves. He knew He was about die. They would need more than “Stop or I’ll say stop again” if they encountered unlawful mobs or bandits as they would all be traveling mostly alone. Then He warned them to not declare a religious war (die by the sword) and to not interfere with His crucifixion. If Christ wanted to people to be pacifists, he would have said so directly instead of directing the apostles to the nearest armory, which He actually did (sell your cloaks..).”

    Jesus instructed His disciples in how to behave in their ministry. The world was purposefully hostile to believers. In this environment, he taught them to advance His message without being predatory themselves by simultaneously employing the wisdom of the serpent with the harmlessness of the dove. The “sword” was symbolic here. He warned His disciples about persecution. Do nobody any harm, nor ill-will. They are to be prudent in their actions. Avoid the pitfalls (the snares of the serpent) and do not stoop to deception, but be peaceful (the ways of the dove). “Wisdom does not equal dishonesty, and innocence does not equal gullibility.”

    “I’m quoting the Gospel without “Hippie/Pacifist” Jesus glasses on. I’m sure it sounds like twisting to you because I’m just presenting a much more complete picture.”

    What I offered is not “Hippie/Pacifist”, but what He has made it abundantly clear.

    “Yes, people who help the poor, in the way I outlined, are adhering to His word.”

    It is not the way YOU outlined it, but how He has outlined it, which was presented clearly by Him.

    “Do you scrutinize your priest, pastor, or minister in a similar fashion when he delivers his sermon? Yes. No worries, I’m not singling you out.”

    So how do you know that your interpretation on Scripture is “correct” or “right” compared to your priest, pastor, or minister?

    “By following the 10 Commandments with love your neighbor (personally) as a our guidelines as how we show love for God.”

    Love your neighbor “personally” also includes helping out the poor even if there is no established friendship or relationship there.

    Luke 6:38–”Give, and you will receive. You will be given much. Pressed down, shaken together, and running over, it will spill into your lap. The way you give to others is the way God will give to you.”

    “Pretty much like this, although it’s a waste of time in the church of the cucked.”

    So you merely stating your spiritual opinion. Now, should only YOUR interpretation of the Good Book ought to be adhered to since most people are “cucked”? Because that appears to be your message. How do you know for certain that the “church is cucked”? Would not God only truly know? Would He even use that word to describe his flock? Are you not in essence putting words in His mouth?

    Regardless, “cuck” is an overused term that observably means nothing to those who believe in His Greatness.

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    What I offered is not “Hippie/Pacifist”, but what He has made it abundantly clear.
     
    Only to you and the current crop of "respectable" Christians who want a Teddy Bear Jesus. Christ the King was clearly a hippie pacifist who told everyone to badger their representatives about taking care of that pesky poor problem, love brown people (if you're white, that is), and be so mellow as to be unmistakable from a melted ice cream cone.

    The “sword” was symbolic here.
     
    Nope. If you don't believe it was real, you believe your version of the Gospels. He told them to get real swords - they were about ready to travel widely to create his Church, which they did. If you insist on symbolic on this point, then it's not me twisting Gospels. They would have every reason and right to defend themselves from thieves, bandits, and the occasional Saul which they would doubtlessly encounter. They were not to resist lawful arrest and none of them did.

    It is not the way YOU outlined it, but how He has outlined it, which was presented clearly by Him.
     
    This is the way and the Jesus that Corvinus has outlined. Because Corvinus is here to win converts to the church of Corvinus, home of Hippie, Pacifist Jesus.

    Look, there's no need to worry about us. You've won. Just glance around. You are the face of any church that has any public face. Cripes, the cuck infection is even getting to the Baptists. Talk about breaching the inner fortress.

    Meanwhile, all sorts of guys like Orolin are livid with formal church organizations for thoughtlessly and selfishly destroying the cohesion of his community.

    And I can't argue. On not one point can I defend church behavior. I've got nothing but trying to convince him that hippie Jesus types and the hopeless insanity of formal modern church organizations aren't the real theology.

    But good luck to me with hopeless causes (including responding to you). You've got megaphone. So enjoy it. iSteve's hapless band of commenters and whatever becomes of the alt-right isn't going to amount to anything. You've got Jesus down, right? And he certainly disapproves of "cuck". So stop worrying, hug a puppy, and write your Senator for more aid to the poor. I'm sure it's What Jesus Would Do.

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  174. Corvinus says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Gosh damn corvinus you really take the cake for mendacious tap dancing and selective literalism.

    “Gosh damn corvinus you really take the cake for mendacious tap dancing and selective literalism.”

    I believe, sir, that is the nicest thing you ever said to me. Are you finally seeking His counsel?

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    Actually I avoid your tldr word vomit like the plague and generally don't respond to you (unlike my bete noires in the eeyore crowd), but your snarky response lets me know I tagged you on the nose.
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  175. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus
    "No, I assume the fact that he is a Jew is why YetAnotherAnon brought it up – the fact that many Jews seem to feel the need, and assume the right, to lecture people about “what X (country) is all about”. And “what country X is all about” inevitably leads to the dissolution of the historic population of country X."

    Ironic, considering you are compelled to demand that people know what America is supposedly about, and that anyone who deviates from it is partaking from genocide. And, what about those tribal groups who heard the same message from Europeans. Did not they "lecture" Indians (feather, not dot)? Did not European actions lead to the "dissolution of the historic population of North/South America"?

    I have already replied to Jack D and Moshe, both of whom are reasonable men, and men whom I respect. Their opinions are always interesting and worthwhile, even when I do not agree with them.

    Your opinions, on the other hand, aren’t worth a bucket of warm spit. They could be replicated by a monkey with a pencil randomly circling words from an NPR transcript. I have no respect for you.

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  176. @Corvinus
    "Gosh damn corvinus you really take the cake for mendacious tap dancing and selective literalism."

    I believe, sir, that is the nicest thing you ever said to me. Are you finally seeking His counsel?

    Actually I avoid your tldr word vomit like the plague and generally don’t respond to you (unlike my bete noires in the eeyore crowd), but your snarky response lets me know I tagged you on the nose.

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    "Actually I avoid your tldr word vomit like the plague and generally don’t respond to you (unlike my bete noires in the eeyore crowd), but your snarky response lets me know I tagged you on the nose."

    I was actually being kind here. I mean, you are the resident expert here regarding the Bible. So, be a dear and show us my "mendacious tap dancing and selective literalism" when it comes to how I "wronged" the Good Book. I'm sure you will dazzle us with your deep knowledge of the faith.
    , @AM

    Actually I avoid your tldr word vomit like the plague and generally don’t respond to you (unlike my bete noires in the eeyore crowd), but your snarky response lets me know I tagged you on the nose.
     
    Good call on all counts.
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  177. Corvinus says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Actually I avoid your tldr word vomit like the plague and generally don't respond to you (unlike my bete noires in the eeyore crowd), but your snarky response lets me know I tagged you on the nose.

    “Actually I avoid your tldr word vomit like the plague and generally don’t respond to you (unlike my bete noires in the eeyore crowd), but your snarky response lets me know I tagged you on the nose.”

    I was actually being kind here. I mean, you are the resident expert here regarding the Bible. So, be a dear and show us my “mendacious tap dancing and selective literalism” when it comes to how I “wronged” the Good Book. I’m sure you will dazzle us with your deep knowledge of the faith.

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    I was actually being kind here. I mean, you are the resident expert here regarding the Bible. So, be a dear and show us my “mendacious tap dancing and selective literalism” when it comes to how I “wronged” the Good Book. I’m sure you will dazzle us with your deep knowledge of the faith.
     
    I didn't think Jesus resorted to sarcasm. His apostle's swords are just analogies right? I am deeply disappointed in this representative from The Church of Nice. Sad.
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  178. AM says:
    @Corvinus
    "He told them to carry swords to defend themselves. He knew He was about die. They would need more than “Stop or I’ll say stop again” if they encountered unlawful mobs or bandits as they would all be traveling mostly alone. Then He warned them to not declare a religious war (die by the sword) and to not interfere with His crucifixion. If Christ wanted to people to be pacifists, he would have said so directly instead of directing the apostles to the nearest armory, which He actually did (sell your cloaks..)."

    Jesus instructed His disciples in how to behave in their ministry. The world was purposefully hostile to believers. In this environment, he taught them to advance His message without being predatory themselves by simultaneously employing the wisdom of the serpent with the harmlessness of the dove. The "sword" was symbolic here. He warned His disciples about persecution. Do nobody any harm, nor ill-will. They are to be prudent in their actions. Avoid the pitfalls (the snares of the serpent) and do not stoop to deception, but be peaceful (the ways of the dove). "Wisdom does not equal dishonesty, and innocence does not equal gullibility."

    "I’m quoting the Gospel without “Hippie/Pacifist” Jesus glasses on. I’m sure it sounds like twisting to you because I’m just presenting a much more complete picture."

    What I offered is not "Hippie/Pacifist", but what He has made it abundantly clear.

    "Yes, people who help the poor, in the way I outlined, are adhering to His word."

    It is not the way YOU outlined it, but how He has outlined it, which was presented clearly by Him.

    "Do you scrutinize your priest, pastor, or minister in a similar fashion when he delivers his sermon? Yes. No worries, I’m not singling you out."

    So how do you know that your interpretation on Scripture is "correct" or "right" compared to your priest, pastor, or minister?

    "By following the 10 Commandments with love your neighbor (personally) as a our guidelines as how we show love for God."

    Love your neighbor "personally" also includes helping out the poor even if there is no established friendship or relationship there.

    Luke 6:38--"Give, and you will receive. You will be given much. Pressed down, shaken together, and running over, it will spill into your lap. The way you give to others is the way God will give to you.”

    "Pretty much like this, although it’s a waste of time in the church of the cucked."

    So you merely stating your spiritual opinion. Now, should only YOUR interpretation of the Good Book ought to be adhered to since most people are "cucked"? Because that appears to be your message. How do you know for certain that the "church is cucked"? Would not God only truly know? Would He even use that word to describe his flock? Are you not in essence putting words in His mouth?

    Regardless, "cuck" is an overused term that observably means nothing to those who believe in His Greatness.

    What I offered is not “Hippie/Pacifist”, but what He has made it abundantly clear.

    Only to you and the current crop of “respectable” Christians who want a Teddy Bear Jesus. Christ the King was clearly a hippie pacifist who told everyone to badger their representatives about taking care of that pesky poor problem, love brown people (if you’re white, that is), and be so mellow as to be unmistakable from a melted ice cream cone.

    The “sword” was symbolic here.

    Nope. If you don’t believe it was real, you believe your version of the Gospels. He told them to get real swords – they were about ready to travel widely to create his Church, which they did. If you insist on symbolic on this point, then it’s not me twisting Gospels. They would have every reason and right to defend themselves from thieves, bandits, and the occasional Saul which they would doubtlessly encounter. They were not to resist lawful arrest and none of them did.

    It is not the way YOU outlined it, but how He has outlined it, which was presented clearly by Him.

    This is the way and the Jesus that Corvinus has outlined. Because Corvinus is here to win converts to the church of Corvinus, home of Hippie, Pacifist Jesus.

    Look, there’s no need to worry about us. You’ve won. Just glance around. You are the face of any church that has any public face. Cripes, the cuck infection is even getting to the Baptists. Talk about breaching the inner fortress.

    Meanwhile, all sorts of guys like Orolin are livid with formal church organizations for thoughtlessly and selfishly destroying the cohesion of his community.

    And I can’t argue. On not one point can I defend church behavior. I’ve got nothing but trying to convince him that hippie Jesus types and the hopeless insanity of formal modern church organizations aren’t the real theology.

    But good luck to me with hopeless causes (including responding to you). You’ve got megaphone. So enjoy it. iSteve’s hapless band of commenters and whatever becomes of the alt-right isn’t going to amount to anything. You’ve got Jesus down, right? And he certainly disapproves of “cuck”. So stop worrying, hug a puppy, and write your Senator for more aid to the poor. I’m sure it’s What Jesus Would Do.

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    Only to you and the current crop of “respectable” Christians who want a Teddy Bear Jesus. Christ the King was clearly a hippie pacifist who told everyone to badger their representatives about taking care of that pesky poor problem, love brown people (if you’re white, that is), and be so mellow as to be unmistakable from a melted ice cream cone."

    "Nope. If you don’t believe it was real, you believe your version of the Gospels."

    There are different interpretations to that particular verse.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sell_your_cloak_and_buy_a_sword

    "Because Corvinus is here to win converts to the church of Corvinus, home of Hippie, Pacifist Jesus."

    You are being silly here. There is no "Church of Corvinus" and no "Hippie, Pacifist Jesus".

    "Cripes, the cuck infection is even getting to the Baptists. Talk about breaching the inner fortress."

    Again, the term "cuck" has no observable meaning to Jesus, the Disciplines, or His flock. You throw it around as if it has religious value.

    "Meanwhile, all sorts of guys like Orolin are livid with formal church organizations for thoughtlessly and selfishly destroying the cohesion of his community."

    "And I can’t argue. On not one point can I defend church behavior. I’ve got nothing but trying to convince him that hippie Jesus types and the hopeless insanity of formal modern church organizations aren’t the real theology."

    There is just "theology", not "real theology". Again, how do you know that your interpretation on Scripture is "correct" or "right" compared to your priest, pastor, or minister?

    "But good luck to me with hopeless causes (including responding to you)."

    Jeremiah 32:17--Ah, Lord GOD! Behold, You have made the heavens and the earth by Your great power and outstretched arm. There is nothing too hard for You.

    "You’ve got megaphone. So enjoy it. iSteve’s hapless band of commenters..."

    I thought only God judges the wicked.

    "and whatever becomes of the alt-right isn’t going to amount to anything. You’ve got Jesus down, right? And he certainly disapproves of “cuck”.

    Only He knows if we "have him down". And, yes, he assuredly disapproves of "cuck".

    Matthew 15:10-11--"And he called the people to him and said to them, 'Hear and understand: it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.'”

    "So stop worrying, hug a puppy, and write your Senator for more aid to the poor. I’m sure it’s What Jesus Would Do."

    Christians care about the poor because Jesus commissioned His followers to preach, heal and deliver those in distress.
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  179. AM says:
    @Corvinus
    "Actually I avoid your tldr word vomit like the plague and generally don’t respond to you (unlike my bete noires in the eeyore crowd), but your snarky response lets me know I tagged you on the nose."

    I was actually being kind here. I mean, you are the resident expert here regarding the Bible. So, be a dear and show us my "mendacious tap dancing and selective literalism" when it comes to how I "wronged" the Good Book. I'm sure you will dazzle us with your deep knowledge of the faith.

    I was actually being kind here. I mean, you are the resident expert here regarding the Bible. So, be a dear and show us my “mendacious tap dancing and selective literalism” when it comes to how I “wronged” the Good Book. I’m sure you will dazzle us with your deep knowledge of the faith.

    I didn’t think Jesus resorted to sarcasm. His apostle’s swords are just analogies right? I am deeply disappointed in this representative from The Church of Nice. Sad.

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    "I didn’t think Jesus resorted to sarcasm."

    Humans have their own crosses to bear.

    "I am deeply disappointed in this representative from The Church of Nice."

    It's called Christianity. Try it sometime, it does the soul GREAT!
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  180. AM says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Actually I avoid your tldr word vomit like the plague and generally don't respond to you (unlike my bete noires in the eeyore crowd), but your snarky response lets me know I tagged you on the nose.

    Actually I avoid your tldr word vomit like the plague and generally don’t respond to you (unlike my bete noires in the eeyore crowd), but your snarky response lets me know I tagged you on the nose.

    Good call on all counts.

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  181. Corvinus says:
    @AM

    I was actually being kind here. I mean, you are the resident expert here regarding the Bible. So, be a dear and show us my “mendacious tap dancing and selective literalism” when it comes to how I “wronged” the Good Book. I’m sure you will dazzle us with your deep knowledge of the faith.
     
    I didn't think Jesus resorted to sarcasm. His apostle's swords are just analogies right? I am deeply disappointed in this representative from The Church of Nice. Sad.

    “I didn’t think Jesus resorted to sarcasm.”

    Humans have their own crosses to bear.

    “I am deeply disappointed in this representative from The Church of Nice.”

    It’s called Christianity. Try it sometime, it does the soul GREAT!

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  182. Corvinus says:
    @AM

    What I offered is not “Hippie/Pacifist”, but what He has made it abundantly clear.
     
    Only to you and the current crop of "respectable" Christians who want a Teddy Bear Jesus. Christ the King was clearly a hippie pacifist who told everyone to badger their representatives about taking care of that pesky poor problem, love brown people (if you're white, that is), and be so mellow as to be unmistakable from a melted ice cream cone.

    The “sword” was symbolic here.
     
    Nope. If you don't believe it was real, you believe your version of the Gospels. He told them to get real swords - they were about ready to travel widely to create his Church, which they did. If you insist on symbolic on this point, then it's not me twisting Gospels. They would have every reason and right to defend themselves from thieves, bandits, and the occasional Saul which they would doubtlessly encounter. They were not to resist lawful arrest and none of them did.

    It is not the way YOU outlined it, but how He has outlined it, which was presented clearly by Him.
     
    This is the way and the Jesus that Corvinus has outlined. Because Corvinus is here to win converts to the church of Corvinus, home of Hippie, Pacifist Jesus.

    Look, there's no need to worry about us. You've won. Just glance around. You are the face of any church that has any public face. Cripes, the cuck infection is even getting to the Baptists. Talk about breaching the inner fortress.

    Meanwhile, all sorts of guys like Orolin are livid with formal church organizations for thoughtlessly and selfishly destroying the cohesion of his community.

    And I can't argue. On not one point can I defend church behavior. I've got nothing but trying to convince him that hippie Jesus types and the hopeless insanity of formal modern church organizations aren't the real theology.

    But good luck to me with hopeless causes (including responding to you). You've got megaphone. So enjoy it. iSteve's hapless band of commenters and whatever becomes of the alt-right isn't going to amount to anything. You've got Jesus down, right? And he certainly disapproves of "cuck". So stop worrying, hug a puppy, and write your Senator for more aid to the poor. I'm sure it's What Jesus Would Do.

    Only to you and the current crop of “respectable” Christians who want a Teddy Bear Jesus. Christ the King was clearly a hippie pacifist who told everyone to badger their representatives about taking care of that pesky poor problem, love brown people (if you’re white, that is), and be so mellow as to be unmistakable from a melted ice cream cone.”

    “Nope. If you don’t believe it was real, you believe your version of the Gospels.”

    There are different interpretations to that particular verse.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sell_your_cloak_and_buy_a_sword

    “Because Corvinus is here to win converts to the church of Corvinus, home of Hippie, Pacifist Jesus.”

    You are being silly here. There is no “Church of Corvinus” and no “Hippie, Pacifist Jesus”.

    “Cripes, the cuck infection is even getting to the Baptists. Talk about breaching the inner fortress.”

    Again, the term “cuck” has no observable meaning to Jesus, the Disciplines, or His flock. You throw it around as if it has religious value.

    “Meanwhile, all sorts of guys like Orolin are livid with formal church organizations for thoughtlessly and selfishly destroying the cohesion of his community.”

    “And I can’t argue. On not one point can I defend church behavior. I’ve got nothing but trying to convince him that hippie Jesus types and the hopeless insanity of formal modern church organizations aren’t the real theology.”

    There is just “theology”, not “real theology”. Again, how do you know that your interpretation on Scripture is “correct” or “right” compared to your priest, pastor, or minister?

    “But good luck to me with hopeless causes (including responding to you).”

    Jeremiah 32:17–Ah, Lord GOD! Behold, You have made the heavens and the earth by Your great power and outstretched arm. There is nothing too hard for You.

    “You’ve got megaphone. So enjoy it. iSteve’s hapless band of commenters…”

    I thought only God judges the wicked.

    “and whatever becomes of the alt-right isn’t going to amount to anything. You’ve got Jesus down, right? And he certainly disapproves of “cuck”.

    Only He knows if we “have him down”. And, yes, he assuredly disapproves of “cuck”.

    Matthew 15:10-11–”And he called the people to him and said to them, ‘Hear and understand: it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.’”

    “So stop worrying, hug a puppy, and write your Senator for more aid to the poor. I’m sure it’s What Jesus Would Do.”

    Christians care about the poor because Jesus commissioned His followers to preach, heal and deliver those in distress.

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