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Starbucks’ supremo Howard Schultz knows far more about making money than I do. But lately he’s gotten himself into a jam as the Eye of Soros has turned toward his vast chain of coffee shops with their deep pockets.

Retail’s usual workaround to keep freeloading lowlifes away is to play classical music 24/7.

But classical music is pretty Dead White European Male.

Yet … there must be an all-black string quartet or orchestra, right? They could sign a lucrative contract to be #Starbucks’ exclusive Inclusive purveyor of bum-repellent great music.

Quick search online … Yes, there is!

Starbucks could hire the all-black woman Marian Anderson String Quartet to provide 24/7 recorded classical music that homeless people and punks loitering with criminal intent just … can’t … stand.

#Diversity & #Profits!

This composition would likely clear the block (although metalheads might find it strangely galvanizing):

 
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  1. I love Starbucks, and this is a tragedy. Have they never seen a public library?

    I guess this is a ploy to justify more Starbucks Reserve stores, which probably won’t have to follow the policy.

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    Get your coffee and leave

    This isn't hard people

    Almost no one sits down in Starbucks
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  2. What’s going to kill Starbucks isn’t the homeless, but the high school and college students who will camp out to do their homework.

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    • Replies: @education realist
    Um, no. Where've you been? There are thousands of Starbucks across the country that are wall to wall students or other people using laptops non-stop all day.
    , @greysquirrell
    They have been doing that for years. I would walk by Starbucks during the day, inbetween classes, and always see a few young people using the free Wifi or coursework. The stores didn't seem to mind that students were hogging the tables and chairs.
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    What’s going to kill Starbucks isn’t the homeless, but the high school and college students who will camp out to do their homework.
     
    To a large extent (probably with the exception of the very high volume stores) the shaggy types just lounging about in Starbucks doing homework of writing the great American novel is actually part of the charm to many (not to me, necessarily). These types are generally inoffensive if annoying, but nevertheless give the stores a certain energy.

    That's entirely different than crazy/drunk/high bums reeking of bathroom smells "washing up" in the bathrooms and eyeing up soon-to-be leftover muffins and croissants, or aggro urban types BIX NOODing into their cell foams without buying anything.
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  3. Eric F says:

    I think speak for many iSteve readers when I say that the future financial health of the Starbucks corporation is not exactly a topic of great concern.

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    • Replies: @MKP
    Exactly. Let them ruin their business by turning it into the fucking hobo bath house for all I care.

    Hell, I'm kinda looking forward to it. Let's see if all these woke white urbanites like sharing Starbucks with hobos. Who have wandered in off the street to clean their hobo bodies and try to bum money. Let's see if these enlightened Starbucks customers are ready to put their money where their mouths are.
    , @Mj
    Starbuck’s financial condition is beside the point. If you are a regular reader of iSteve then surely you’ve noticed that Steve comments on stories that are seemingly trivial but have non-trivial underlying implications.
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  5. @International Jew
    What's going to kill Starbucks isn't the homeless, but the high school and college students who will camp out to do their homework.

    Um, no. Where’ve you been? There are thousands of Starbucks across the country that are wall to wall students or other people using laptops non-stop all day.

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    • Agree: syonredux, Percy Gryce
    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    Yes but they are buying something at the very least.
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  6. And this is why I make an annual payment to Steve Sailer: When he trolls, he does so with beauty and elegance.

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    • Replies: @Bubba
    Amen brother! Amen!
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  7. J.Ross says: • Website

    The New Leftist Trusts are all big enough that they can afford losses that would kill a smaller, less connected business.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius
    At some point, they’d made enough money.
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  8. Not Raul says:

    That’s actually a brilliant idea, Steve.

    You could write a letter to Starbucks. You could mention your market research experience.

    There are a few things you obviously shouldn’t mention.

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    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Anonym
    This is a great idea. I suggest that this classical music by black musician marketing campaign have the slogan "Let the good times roll!"
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  9. TheBoom says:

    I am concerned that Starbucks providing a platform for blacks to play classical music will normalize cultural appropriation.

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    • Replies: @Kylie
    "I am concerned that Starbucks providing a platform for blacks to play classical music will normalize cultural appropriation."

    Michelle Obama and Meaghan Markle already did that by straightening their hair while maintaining they were proud women of color.

    Of course, it's only normalized for the usual suspects.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Boom, Oberlin College, arguably the most liberal college in the nation, has a music conservatory. A couple of years ago black students in the music department presented a list of demands to the college president, which included the end of teaching Eurocentric music and the classical composers.
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  10. TheBoom says:

    Starbucks providing a platform for blacks to play classical music will normalize cultural appropriation and that is the 8 th deadly sin.

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  11. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    I played Beethoven’s Grosse Fugue for my college roommate once (the Mahler arrangement of it, IIRC), and he said, “You can tell he was deaf when wrote this”. It grows on you though.

    The one time Starbucks successfully warded me off with music is when they played Paul McCartney’s new album in heavy rotation.

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    Paul McCartney’s new album in heavy rotation
     
    No! No! Do it to Julia!
    , @Harry Baldwin
    The one time Starbucks successfully warded me off with music is when they played Paul McCartney’s new album in heavy rotation.

    You and me both, amigo! I recall that dark period.

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  12. Salvation Army hostels turf out their residents after breakfast and don’t let them back in until late afternoon, so they tend to have to patrol the streets picking up cigarette butts from the gutter.

    Starbucks could be a godsend, especially in cold weather, in spite of the lousy, overpriced coffee.

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  13. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    The profit on non alcoholic beverages is unbelievable. If the waiters load the glasses with ice a restaurants can get thousands of $2.00 drinks out of a gallon of coke syrup.

    Coffee’s about the same profit, a little coffee, a little milk drop of vanilla a little sugar a blender full of ice and viola, a $7. 00 coffee slushy. Starbucks doesn’t need much turnover to make a profit.

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    • Replies: @International Jew
    You've overlooked a few costs — labor, and rent. That $7 in your example is a lot less than a real restaurant would get for a meal. I'm amazed that Starbucks was ever able to survive at its high-rent locations. I guess it all works out for them, but I'm still amazed.
    , @Jim Christian

    The profit on non alcoholic beverages is unbelievable. If the waiters load the glasses with ice a restaurants can get thousands of $2.00 drinks out of a gallon of coke syrup. Coffee’s about the same profit, a little coffee, a little milk drop of vanilla a little sugar a blender full of ice and viola, a $7. 00 coffee slushy. Starbucks doesn’t need much turnover to make a profit.
     
    Offered additions: All that and more. Extended nationwide, these coffee milkshakes brought us many tens of millions of the fattest asses in the world in only twenty years. And the rest of you thought the two angry Blacks were the problem.
    , @slumber_j
    Yeah, it's all about slinging coffee. And if you want to make money on food that you make in-house, it's pizza: that's where the margin is.
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    Not to be a pest, but the word you seek is not viola, but voilà. But, as I think on it, since the post is concerned with a string quartet - in which the viola is a participant - this is, ironically, just fine.
    Heh.
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  14. BB753 says:

    Good! Now let’s hope that other liberal corporations self-destruct in a similarly ridiculous way!

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  15. Dr. Doom says:

    The Diversity Initiative at the Innsmouth Cafe by: H.R. Diversity Manager

    After the Fish Police had announced that loitering was no longer a crime, the uneasy atmosphere slowing creeped in like a horny camel in a tent full of gypsies. The duck-faced customers could feel a tremble go down their spineless backs as the staccato of drums and bullets shattered the mind numbing ease of bad poetry and gothic porn poses. Their sociological imagination turned from blaming Bush and Reagan and began to imagine bad schools and diminished funding for pretentious social issues. The coffee seemed to be like weak tea cut with angry spittle and the cat’s urine at the childless harridan’s feces soaked apartment.
    The Cthonian customer base began to make homemade frappacinos, with store bought bottles and an assortment of flavored liquor. Gone was the idle atmosphere of decay and societal stasis so familiar to the Deep Ones, cultured in a petri dish of decadent and whorish profligacy. Even the squid ink of octopus faced columnists could not hide the discontent that seeped into the Innsmouth Cafe like the smell of a wet dog on an old sofa. “Its a trap!”, said one columnist, but a blue haired feminist shot him down like an unemployed old man at a college party full of young girls and hot frat guys.
    The dull bland atmosphere was no longer as familiar as the sagging boobs of the strippers at the nudey bars, and the easy chatter that always accompanies people who parrot things more redundantly than South American Pet Birds was replaced by loud yells, sports on video screens and the coffee smells drowned out by hot wings and the smell of urine normally associated with public transportation.
    The Fish Police didn’t care. They were at a Donut House. The bad poets, duck-faced spineless jellyfish and the unholy horrors of hook-ups done while drunk could not face the Truth. The worm had turned. It tasted like the bitter wine of a cheap liquor store with no refrigeration run by people who had run it as a front for a gang. The horrible realization had dawned and then was swallowed quickly, like a piece of cake by a fat women at weight watchers before the meeting. Gone was the sociological imaginings of perpetual students. Replaced not by new chatter, but the shattering of faces of black athletes as the sirens sang the song of Urban Decay.
    It had taken eons for the decay to set in, but after less than a year, the Innsmouth Cafe had more nails than a habitat for humanity house built entirely by women with semi-automatic nailguns. Somewhere, the caffeine keeps sociology students up all night. Gibbering their mindless memes like an idiot in a Federal Bureaucracy trying to not do his job. The Frogs may croak. The cows may know. The boobs still sag openly at the nudey bars. The inclusion may still happen. Like a fox in a henhouse owned by a woman who multitasks so much she cannot keep a friend for a whole year. The gambrel roofs may leak. The government may not work. The coffee smells, but no one notices it. The Fat Lady had sung, but no one saw the Opera.

    In the Land of the Blind, they always sing the Blues…

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    • Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    This comment reads like a work of hard-boiled literature. But it does not stand up to literary analysis. For one thing, why would a liquor store need refrigeration? "It tasted like bitter wine" would be more succinct (but less Mickey Spillane-like) than "It tasted like the bitter wine of a cheap liquor store with no refrigeration run by people who had run it as a front for a gang." And who are the Fish Police? The police force of Charles Murray's fictional Fishtown?
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  16. Tiny Duck says:
    @education realist
    I love Starbucks, and this is a tragedy. Have they never seen a public library?

    I guess this is a ploy to justify more Starbucks Reserve stores, which probably won't have to follow the policy.

    Get your coffee and leave

    This isn’t hard people

    Almost no one sits down in Starbucks

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    • Replies: @Warner
    Wow. Tiny Duck just told black people the seats are taken. You blew it little duck!
    , @Jim Christian

    Get your coffee and leave. This isn’t hard people. Almost no one sits down in Starbucks
     
    Duck, you keep making sense as regards God's Chosen Hue, you're going to lose your Black Panther Wakanda secret decoder ring. And you know what THAT means, they'll be coming to GET you:

    http://www.seaforces.org/usnair/VA/Attack-Squadron-35-Dateien/image137.jpg
    , @Anon
    I walked past a Starbucks one am. It was in a mini mall. I got my haircut went to the bank and a drugstore. About 2 hours later walked back past the Starbucks and same people were still there.
    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    "Get your coffee and leave"? Pay $6 for a cup of coffee and leave without preening behind a laptop with some silly ass virtue signal sticker on the top cover conspicuously visible to the other congregants??

    That would be like having a royal wedding and ordering the royal sommeliers to decant the entire royal wine cellar offerings into screw cap to go Night Train bottles collected from under Baltimore bridges.

    Image result for night train wine
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  17. That’s an interesting recording. Sometimes when you listen to it you hear Beethoven, and sometimes you hear Yanni.

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    Play it backwards and you get rap. Isn't that curious?
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  18. iffen says:

    Am I a bad person for hoping that the “homeless” worldwide will make Starbucks home central?

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    • Replies: @International Jew
    If that makes you a bad person, then I'm bad too! This is an opportunity for James O'Keefe to get some good footage (for once); he could arrange for a busload of smelly homeless to arrive at a Starbucks.
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  19. GMR says:

    This will likely have an impact in places like San Francisco, with large homeless populations. In my suburban CT town, there are no homeless people, and the Starbucks is in a strip mall that you have to drive to: very few people live within walking distance. So ours will be unaffected. It’s a wealthy town, so students won’t hang there: they’ve got too many activities.

    I can’t imagine what will happen in places like SF or Seattle with large homeless populations. It doesn’t take many homeless people to make a Starbucks completely unpalatable to normal people.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    The last time I saw a bum in a SF starbucks he put a $1 single banana and two glass bottles of fancy $4.50 iced teas on the counter. He didn't have enough for both bottles, but still got the one.

    It was then I realized I was more of a cheapskate than a smelly bum. I'd never pay $4.50 for a bottle of ice tea. I really should also just start taking dollar store caffeine pills in the morning rather than $3 for a giant starbucks, but I like the taste.
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  20. I don’t think this will hurt them much in the big picture, but it will create a lot of unpleasantness for a some unlucky people.

    I predict there will be some methods devised to gently encourage non-customers to leave, but these methods will only be used against Whites.

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    but these methods will only be used against Whites.
     
    Was thinking same thing.

    But what about trans-race ppl who indentify as black?
    , @SFG
    I actually disagree. As soon as this junk blows over, store managers are going to be faced with the problem of not having 'yoofs' trashing their store. I suspect they will find ways to keep their store looking nice and keep attracting the 'right' kind of people.

    Of course, between #RaceTogether, the anti-Christmas cup, and a hundred other things I've surely forgotten, Starbucks is one of the most aggressively PC companies around. It would be, well, sport to have the social engineer hoist with his own petard here.

    , @bomag

    I suspect they will find ways to keep their store looking nice and keep attracting the 'right' kind of people.
     
    Membership cards?
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  21. gp says:

    Meh. Let Starbucks be Starbucks. My beef is that they didn’t open-source their anti-bias training. If they really believe in what they are doing, they should have Ludovico’d all of us. I’m looking forward to drinking coffee in harmony with loitering POCs of all genders and faiths.

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  22. I hope Charbucks doesn’t get burned like their over-roasted beans. My wife’s gay hairdresser works there part time for the health insurance. Apparently it’s a pretty good deal, which is saying a lot nowadays.

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  23. Moses says:

    Schultz is no dummy.

    You think he’s really going to let homeless camp out in his stores and frighten away all the GoodWhites?

    No.

    More likely he’ll give store managers the impossible double standard of maintaining clean, safe stores while also letting “anyone” camp out (at least in theory). The unwritten rule will be that anyone who causes a media blowup will be fired.

    I for one am looking forward to how this plays out.

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    • Replies: @eD
    Moses #22 has a good point. This seems like one of those things where managers in corporations are supposed to do the exact opposition of stated corporate policy, but not get caught. We will see.
    , @Prof. Woland
    Hopefully, one of Starbucks competitors or all of them will do the opposite declaring that they are a bum free environment and let it be know that they are a safe space for normal law abiding patrons. This would simultaneously siphon off customers who are sick of being preached to over to the non-virtue signalling coffee shops and give them a competitive advantage because they do not have to carry the burden of the layabouts that are camping out. Better yet, advertise this. Once the public gets the impression that you will get AIDS or worse from a Starbucks toilet seat, we can sit back and watch their stock go down the proverbial toilet.
    , @Olorin

    The biggest profits from Starbucks stock have already been made. But there is a simple strategy for investors to hitch a ride on Starbucks’ continued success. And it doesn’t have anything to do with Starbucks stock.

    It has everything to do with real estate...

    The location of Starbucks stores has been a key factor contributing to the company’s success. Arthur Rubinfeld is a Starbucks executive who oversees new store locations. He says, “The beauty of Starbucks is our understanding of real estate site locationing. It’s an art and a science.”

    Starbucks has a team dedicated to selecting new locations for stores, based on a wide range of demographic and property data. Their analytical approach has allowed the company to consistently find profitable locations. It’s also allowed Starbucks to concentrate multiple stores in close proximity.

    The opening of a Starbucks in a neighborhood can actually change the neighborhood. You’ve probably noticed this first hand. After a Starbucks opens up, new restaurants, cafes and bars start popping up in the same area.

    This activity has a very positive effect on real estate prices. A recent study from real estate website Zillow (NYSE: Z) looked at homes within a quarter-mile of a Starbucks location. What they found was that between 1997 and 2014, the homes located near a Starbucks increased in value by 96%. Meanwhile, the average home in the U.S. increased in value by 65%.

    Interestingly, the researchers at Zillow also looked at home values near a Dunkin’ Donuts, which is owned by Dunkin’ Brands (NYSE: DNKN). Homes near a Dunkin’ Donuts rose more quickly than the average American home. But with 80% appreciation, they fell short of Starbucks.

    With more than 21,000 locations around the world – including nearly 12,000 in the U.S. – Starbucks has a huge presence. It already has stores open in nearly every affluent neighborhood in America. To expand, the company is looking to open stores in neighborhoods that are experiencing redevelopment and gentrification.

    These are often neighborhoods that are becoming hip, with younger people moving in. The opening of a Starbucks is a sign that real improvements to a neighborhood are underway.

    The historical data suggests that a simple real estate investment strategy could deliver solid profits. Simply buy properties that are within a quarter-mile of a new Starbucks location.

    Let’s consider what would have happened if you bought five properties back in 1997, and all five were located near a Starbucks. You would have paid an average of $137,000 and made a total investment of $685,000.

    Today, those five properties would each be worth $269,000. And your real estate portfolio would be worth $1.3 million. Plus, you would have collected rent checks from tenants year after year.

    If you see a Starbucks opening up near your home, look at the local real estate. Look for homes in close proximity. Put 20% down and buy a house or condo as a rental property. If you buy the property at a decent price, the rent will cover the mortgage payment, taxes and maintenance.
     
    http://www.wyattresearch.com/article/starbucks-real-estate-investment-strategy/
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  24. eD says:

    You go with the classical music, and you do “club” or premium stores where people buy memberships and can stay as long as they want. They could just sell coffee and not even have stores at all but there is the problem is that their coffee sort of sucks.

    This is a good combination of “you can’t have nice things” in a diverse, low trust society, combined with capitalist greed and over-expansion.

    Coffee-houses work great in a high trust society, yes you have someone conducting their business during the day on one cup of coffee, but with some gentle reminders he makes way for the family coming in, or he brings in his business associates next time and they all order lunch and it all works out somehow. If everyone is basically at war all the time with people in the wrong cultural/ ethnic group this can never work. If you have a store at all you sell your items from behind bullet proof glass, silently. And not incidentally, one clue that the USA is now a low trust society is that you rarely see customers talk to each other in a Starbucks. In past centuries, coffee houses is where you went for conversation (you went to taverns to hook up with prostitutes).

    Capitalist over-expansion as well. I went to the original Starbucks or one of the original ones in Seattle in 1991 and it was a cool coffee-shop. It had to be bought out and turned into an empire. Well you do this, you get a big corporate bureaucracy, and eventually you have to put more and more stores in downscale areas. Eventually the entire business model goes downscale. You also put independent stores and more reasonably scaled chains out of business on the way. McDonalds followed a similar trajectory. Limit or ban chains and the Philadelphia “incidents” don’t happen, if nothing else because these particular stores don’t exist.

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    McDonalds followed a similar trajectory.
     
    Hey, you're onto something. Maybe Charbucks is going the route McDonalds did. Maybe it's becoming a black thing.

    I'm Lovin' It.
    , @Steve Sailer
    Apples Stores are not exactly popping up like dandelions in vibrant neighborhoods.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Starbucks already has a high-end concept store, though I don’t know how many they have now: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/12/05/business/in-the-capital-of-coffee-enthusiasm-for-starbucks-upmarket-chain.html
    , @Anonymous
    Some very upscale East Coast areas do restrict or ban franchises. Seems like a good idea to me because momsicle and popsicle businesses are less efficient and create more jobs if the money is there.

    Franchises do offer a more efficient business model but all that means is franchises can go into more marginal areas and/or offer more products and services in midgrade areas. But in upscale areas they are going to spend the money-why not make them spend a little more and create jobs? Only works where there is specific excess wealth.

    , @Anonymous


    Coffee-houses work great in a high trust society, yes you have someone conducting their business during the day on one cup of coffee, but with some gentle reminders he makes way for the family coming in, or he brings in his business associates next time and they all order lunch and it all works out somehow. If everyone is basically at war all the time with people in the wrong cultural/ ethnic group this can never work. If you have a store at all you sell your items from behind bullet proof glass, silently. And not incidentally, one clue that the USA is now a low trust society is that you rarely see customers talk to each other in a Starbucks. In past centuries, coffee houses is where you went for conversation (you went to taverns to hook up with prostitutes).
     
    Coffee houses were the breeding ground of the old Bolshevik left and of the folk music scare. The Waiting for Guffman crew did a great job of illustrating this era with the film A Mighty Wind.
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  25. Moses says:
    @27 year old
    I don't think this will hurt them much in the big picture, but it will create a lot of unpleasantness for a some unlucky people.

    I predict there will be some methods devised to gently encourage non-customers to leave, but these methods will only be used against Whites.

    but these methods will only be used against Whites.

    Was thinking same thing.

    But what about trans-race ppl who indentify as black?

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  26. @eD
    You go with the classical music, and you do "club" or premium stores where people buy memberships and can stay as long as they want. They could just sell coffee and not even have stores at all but there is the problem is that their coffee sort of sucks.

    This is a good combination of "you can't have nice things" in a diverse, low trust society, combined with capitalist greed and over-expansion.

    Coffee-houses work great in a high trust society, yes you have someone conducting their business during the day on one cup of coffee, but with some gentle reminders he makes way for the family coming in, or he brings in his business associates next time and they all order lunch and it all works out somehow. If everyone is basically at war all the time with people in the wrong cultural/ ethnic group this can never work. If you have a store at all you sell your items from behind bullet proof glass, silently. And not incidentally, one clue that the USA is now a low trust society is that you rarely see customers talk to each other in a Starbucks. In past centuries, coffee houses is where you went for conversation (you went to taverns to hook up with prostitutes).

    Capitalist over-expansion as well. I went to the original Starbucks or one of the original ones in Seattle in 1991 and it was a cool coffee-shop. It had to be bought out and turned into an empire. Well you do this, you get a big corporate bureaucracy, and eventually you have to put more and more stores in downscale areas. Eventually the entire business model goes downscale. You also put independent stores and more reasonably scaled chains out of business on the way. McDonalds followed a similar trajectory. Limit or ban chains and the Philadelphia "incidents" don't happen, if nothing else because these particular stores don't exist.

    McDonalds followed a similar trajectory.

    Hey, you’re onto something. Maybe Charbucks is going the route McDonalds did. Maybe it’s becoming a black thing.

    I’m Lovin’ It.

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    • Replies: @Escher

    Maybe Charbucks is going the route McDonalds did. Maybe it’s becoming a black thing.
     
    LOL!
    , @fitzGetty
    ... sociologically speaking, in London, McDonalds’ customers are 95% black ...
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  27. Escher says:

    Starbucks could hire the all-black woman Marian Anderson String Quartet to provide 24/7 recorded classical music that homeless people and punks loitering with criminal intent just … can’t … stand.

    Per the law of unintended consequences, this will likely lead to claims that Beethoven, Brahms et al were black.

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    Do keep up, my dear chap.

    Ludwig van Beethoven was of African descent, and the truth of his ethnic origins was covered up through a mixture of white powder worn on his face when out in public, the use of body doubles for portraits, and “euro-centric” historians, hiding the truth of his genetic heritage.
     
    https://www.limelightmagazine.com.au/news/new-website-claims-beethoven-was-african/
    , @Pat Boyle
    Marian Anderson was famous for political reasons. She was not a very good singer. Nor was Paul Robeson.

    The really great black singers of serious music were Leontyne Price, Martina Arroyo, and Grace Bumbry. There are two very good black operatic tenors working today but there are far fewer black singers than one would expect. Blacks generally just don't like serious music.

    Meanwhile there is a revolution in opera voices today from the East Asians. There are dozens of very fine Korean tenors whom you can hear of YouTube. There seems to be racial prejudice against Orientals appearing live on an opera stage.

    Blacks probably don't like serious Western music because it often complex and employs large forces whereas virtually all black music is never performed by anything larger than a church choir. The best black music is often quite simple. For example the Harry Belafonte Calypso songs which have simple tunes and simple lyrics but are very catchy. There are no black composed operas, oratorios or cantatas or symphonies or concertos. (Some commenter here will dig up one no doubt, but you will never have heard of it).

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  28. Escher says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    McDonalds followed a similar trajectory.
     
    Hey, you're onto something. Maybe Charbucks is going the route McDonalds did. Maybe it's becoming a black thing.

    I'm Lovin' It.

    Maybe Charbucks is going the route McDonalds did. Maybe it’s becoming a black thing.

    LOL!

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  29. MKP says:
    @Eric F
    I think speak for many iSteve readers when I say that the future financial health of the Starbucks corporation is not exactly a topic of great concern.

    Exactly. Let them ruin their business by turning it into the fucking hobo bath house for all I care.

    Hell, I’m kinda looking forward to it. Let’s see if all these woke white urbanites like sharing Starbucks with hobos. Who have wandered in off the street to clean their hobo bodies and try to bum money. Let’s see if these enlightened Starbucks customers are ready to put their money where their mouths are.

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    Exactly. Let them ruin their business by turning it into the fucking hobo bath house for all I care.
     
    Oh, boy! Another placement opportunity for my favorite link from 2017:

    https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/horrified-mcdonalds-customers-watch-naked-13434799
    , @FrankFatwa
    Can’t they open up outlets for coloreds only, called Tar-Bucks & Sows. It could be a safe space from hostile white string music.
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  30. bjondo says:

    Offer the homeless free SB coffee. They will leave after one sip.

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  31. wren says:

    My guess is that they will figure out a way to make things more comfortable for paying customers, through some kind of phone app or something.

    Like demo software that works much better when it is unlocked.

    I have seen demonstrations of sound projection that allows for very loud sound in one place and near silence a few inches away.

    The phone in your pocket could tell the starbucks sound projectors to turn the uncomfortable, loud bgm down 20 db in a bubble around you, or something like that.

    Scifi right now, but I suspect they are looking at stuff like this.

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    For example, all people entering the store get hit with something like this:

    https://youtu.be/vVxcvkIGTCI

    The only way to turn it off would be to buy something (that includes 30 minutes of peace) or just buy the silence directly on an app.

    No one is denied entry.
    , @ThirdWorldSteveReader
    Maybe they will divide the are in a common lounge with a crappy restroom available to everyone and a nice VIP area for actual paying costumers.
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  32. SFG says:
    @27 year old
    I don't think this will hurt them much in the big picture, but it will create a lot of unpleasantness for a some unlucky people.

    I predict there will be some methods devised to gently encourage non-customers to leave, but these methods will only be used against Whites.

    I actually disagree. As soon as this junk blows over, store managers are going to be faced with the problem of not having ‘yoofs’ trashing their store. I suspect they will find ways to keep their store looking nice and keep attracting the ‘right’ kind of people.

    Of course, between #RaceTogether, the anti-Christmas cup, and a hundred other things I’ve surely forgotten, Starbucks is one of the most aggressively PC companies around. It would be, well, sport to have the social engineer hoist with his own petard here.

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  33. wren says:
    @wren
    My guess is that they will figure out a way to make things more comfortable for paying customers, through some kind of phone app or something.

    Like demo software that works much better when it is unlocked.

    I have seen demonstrations of sound projection that allows for very loud sound in one place and near silence a few inches away.

    The phone in your pocket could tell the starbucks sound projectors to turn the uncomfortable, loud bgm down 20 db in a bubble around you, or something like that.

    Scifi right now, but I suspect they are looking at stuff like this.

    For example, all people entering the store get hit with something like this:

    The only way to turn it off would be to buy something (that includes 30 minutes of peace) or just buy the silence directly on an app.

    No one is denied entry.

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    I suspect that a lot of Howard's new friends are already hearing voices in their heads .
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  34. Amusing, Steve. :)
    Incidentally, I had to check my stereotypes when my wife and I went for a cruise on the Carnival Spirit last year. The music at afternoon tea time was provided by a a double bass and viola – played by two black musicians who were extremely competent.
    Maybe Howard should give ‘em a call…

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    I'm guessing that Carnival employed them because they were not American and could be paid cruise ship international standard, whatever that is...
    , @Anon
    Every Nordstrom’s I’ve been to has a black man playing classical piano.
    , @Jack D
    Musical talent is one item that is not as closely tied to IQ as most other cognitive skills. Although most blacks are not interested in playing classical music any more than they are interested in listening to it (in Philadelphia, a 50% black city, you can usually count the # of blacks at classical music concerts on the fingers of one hand), when they put their mind to it they can be very good at it.
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  35. Kylie says:
    @TheBoom
    I am concerned that Starbucks providing a platform for blacks to play classical music will normalize cultural appropriation.

    “I am concerned that Starbucks providing a platform for blacks to play classical music will normalize cultural appropriation.”

    Michelle Obama and Meaghan Markle already did that by straightening their hair while maintaining they were proud women of color.

    Of course, it’s only normalized for the usual suspects.

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    “Reverend” Al has beat TD to the punch line!!

    Al Sharpton: Royal wedding shows white supremacy is ‘on its last breath'
    By Morgan Gstalter - 05/19/18 The Hill.com

    Rev. Al Sharpton said Saturday’s nuptials between the U.K.’s Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, a biracial American actress, show that white male supremacy is “on its last breath.”

    "When you got little white girls in Wales saying, 'I want to be like Meghan,' there's a shift worldwide that white male supremacy is on its last breath," Sharpton said.

    "When you have little white girls in Arkansas look up and say, 'I want to be beautiful and smart like Michelle Obama. I want to dress like the Obama girls (Sasha and Malia),' that's where that white supremacy is questioned,” Sharpton said. “White parents in their living room say, 'We've got to do something.' That's what Trump played on. 'We're losing control of our own children.’”

    Sharpton went on to say white supremacist groups are "losing their minds" over the royal wedding. “They're losing their minds because the world is passing away where they are the standard,” Sharpton said. “Where they decide what is beauty, where they decide what is of intellectual depth.”

     

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  36. Hhsiii says:

    I think I heard it on The Deuce, but in the ‘70s everyone smoked and drank crap beer and worse coffee, but no one complained.

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  37. Dr. Doom says:

    Some malls already tried this very same non-discrimination policy. Then they tried to manage it with a rule to not allow unsupervised “teens”. They beefed up security after that. Soon the stores were moving out and the storefronts were papered over.

    Non-discriminatory policies always end up papering over the Chapter 13 Economics of blacks.

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  38. Bubba says:
    @Tim of the North
    And this is why I make an annual payment to Steve Sailer: When he trolls, he does so with beauty and elegance.

    Amen brother! Amen!

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  39. @eD
    You go with the classical music, and you do "club" or premium stores where people buy memberships and can stay as long as they want. They could just sell coffee and not even have stores at all but there is the problem is that their coffee sort of sucks.

    This is a good combination of "you can't have nice things" in a diverse, low trust society, combined with capitalist greed and over-expansion.

    Coffee-houses work great in a high trust society, yes you have someone conducting their business during the day on one cup of coffee, but with some gentle reminders he makes way for the family coming in, or he brings in his business associates next time and they all order lunch and it all works out somehow. If everyone is basically at war all the time with people in the wrong cultural/ ethnic group this can never work. If you have a store at all you sell your items from behind bullet proof glass, silently. And not incidentally, one clue that the USA is now a low trust society is that you rarely see customers talk to each other in a Starbucks. In past centuries, coffee houses is where you went for conversation (you went to taverns to hook up with prostitutes).

    Capitalist over-expansion as well. I went to the original Starbucks or one of the original ones in Seattle in 1991 and it was a cool coffee-shop. It had to be bought out and turned into an empire. Well you do this, you get a big corporate bureaucracy, and eventually you have to put more and more stores in downscale areas. Eventually the entire business model goes downscale. You also put independent stores and more reasonably scaled chains out of business on the way. McDonalds followed a similar trajectory. Limit or ban chains and the Philadelphia "incidents" don't happen, if nothing else because these particular stores don't exist.

    Apples Stores are not exactly popping up like dandelions in vibrant neighborhoods.

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    If you build it, Dre will come.

    https://hips.htvapps.com/htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/images/apple-store-suspects-jpg-1524514036.jpg

    http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article209597719.html
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  40. Anonymous[188] • Disclaimer says:

    I wonder if White conservatives will demand modern popular music when they’re in Starbucks. Have some fun with this!

    Ruin their business model.

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  41. @wren
    My guess is that they will figure out a way to make things more comfortable for paying customers, through some kind of phone app or something.

    Like demo software that works much better when it is unlocked.

    I have seen demonstrations of sound projection that allows for very loud sound in one place and near silence a few inches away.

    The phone in your pocket could tell the starbucks sound projectors to turn the uncomfortable, loud bgm down 20 db in a bubble around you, or something like that.

    Scifi right now, but I suspect they are looking at stuff like this.

    Maybe they will divide the are in a common lounge with a crappy restroom available to everyone and a nice VIP area for actual paying costumers.

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  42. wren says:
    @Hans Tholstrup
    Amusing, Steve. :)
    Incidentally, I had to check my stereotypes when my wife and I went for a cruise on the Carnival Spirit last year. The music at afternoon tea time was provided by a a double bass and viola - played by two black musicians who were extremely competent.
    Maybe Howard should give 'em a call...

    I’m guessing that Carnival employed them because they were not American and could be paid cruise ship international standard, whatever that is…

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    Incidentally, I had to check my stereotypes when my wife and I went for a cruise on the Carnival Spirit last year. The music at afternoon tea time was provided by a a double bass and viola – played by two black musicians who were extremely competent.
     
    I’m guessing that Carnival employed them because they were not American and could be paid cruise ship international standard, whatever that is…
     
    Exactly. The ships are registered in places like Panama and employ very low-paid staff. However, a refined female Jewish acquaintance of mine who was a jeweller at Harry Winston in Beverly Hills was hired away by a cruise line. To sell high-priced and easily pocketed and hocked items they need to pay American rates for the staff, it seems.
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  43. AndrewR says:

    I wonder if they will kick people out of their stores for aggressive farting. I may test this question out. There are days when I produce more gas than a North Dakota well.

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    Patriotic Americans should buy nothing at Starbucks but hang out there reading, surfing the Net, talking, whatever, alllllllllllllllllll day long -- retired people, university students, and people who work at night will have to lead the charge during the daytime, while many of the rest of us can take over in the evenings.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    There's probably a clause in the Americans with Disabilities Act that would prevent them from expelling you for that.
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  44. Starbucks are gonna follow the trajectory of shopping malls.

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    Amazon Cafe! Have a latte delivered to your door in less than 24 hours!
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  45. Anon[322] • Disclaimer says:

    Starbucks needs to learn — hey, we’re at iSteve, so why not make a new law — The First Law of Online Controversy: “Completely ignore social media denunciation of you or your company for two weeks, and it will go away as the mob tires and a new source of fake outrage appears.” It might take three weeks for Starbucks. But the point is that you are the source of oxygen for the fire, and anything you say keeps it going, and nothing you say will absolve you in the eyes of the mob.

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    • Replies: @bartok

    It might take three weeks for Starbucks. But the point is that you are the source of oxygen for the fire, and anything you say keeps it going, and nothing you say will absolve you in the eyes of the mob.
     
    Schultz is the fire. That is to say that he welcome these incidents much like the EPA welcomes 'friendly lawsuits' from environmental groups. These incidents help Schultz to pozz the nation he wishes to transform and rule over. I assure you, he is energized and joyful when he gets the chance to whip his own company with the 'fellow-white privilege' lash.
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  46. Truth says:

    Yet … there must be an all-black string quartet or orchestra, right? They could sign a lucrative contract to be #Starbucks’ exclusive Inclusive purveyor of bum-repellent great music.

    Quick search online … Yes, there is!

    Just a quick word of concern/obserservation here, Steve-O: You are rapidly approaching that line of age/hubris-related, silk sheet, self-parody that old entertainers ridicule as young people, and almost invariably assume, before kitchy, but well-compensated, irrelevance. If you are unsure of what I am referring, watch some clips of William Shatner toward the end of the TJ Hooker run, or Al Pacino in Heat… Or listen for Dylan on a Traveling Wilburys album.

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    Heat is an all-time great movie, and Al Pacino was fine in it. Peak, over-the-top Pacino was earlier, in Scent of a Woman.
    , @wren
    Brother, we are all going to seed together here in the comments section.

    I say that out of self concern/observation, too.

    An ex-Chicago cop coworker once invited me to a William Shatner show when he came through town.

    For some reason, I couldn't make it, but since have decided that the next time Shatner stops by with his shtick, I will buy tickets and go.

    Perhaps with my kids.
    , @Svigor
    Yeah but you think every White woman you see is a man. Your warnings are endorsements.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Just a quick word of concern/obserservation here, Steve-O
     
    Yeah, I'm sure you're really concerned.

    Concern-trolling is not concern. And it's especially funny coming from you, given that edged over into pardoy from your very first post here, Mr. Flat-Earther.

    , @wren
    You know, I've been saying that I would buy Steve's book, if he ever writes one, for a few years now.

    I have no idea if he wants to or will.

    That being said, I just realized that someone else who could probably write a popular book would be you.

    I'd buy it.

    Right now the topic of the alt-right is still pretty popular, so you could strike while the iron is hot and some publisher would probably pick it up.

    "All Night With the Alt-Right"

    "10,001 Comments With the Alt-Right"

    "Racism, Misogyny and Ignorance: My Time in The Comments Section"

    "Sailer and Derbyshire Vs. Truth: My Journey to Understanding"

    "Late Night Trolling: My Voyage of Discovery Through The Underbelly of the Intellectual Right"

    The best part is that it is almost guaranteed that once you published it you could become the go-to guy for CNN and NPR etc, when they needed some commentary on the Alt-Right.

    You could become our voice in the media Truth!

    Of course, this is assuming that you don't already have a gig with the FBI or something like that.
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  47. @Anon
    The profit on non alcoholic beverages is unbelievable. If the waiters load the glasses with ice a restaurants can get thousands of $2.00 drinks out of a gallon of coke syrup.

    Coffee’s about the same profit, a little coffee, a little milk drop of vanilla a little sugar a blender full of ice and viola, a $7. 00 coffee slushy. Starbucks doesn’t need much turnover to make a profit.

    You’ve overlooked a few costs — labor, and rent. That $7 in your example is a lot less than a real restaurant would get for a meal. I’m amazed that Starbucks was ever able to survive at its high-rent locations. I guess it all works out for them, but I’m still amazed.

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    Most restaurants make money on beverages and alcohol. Drinks have much higher margins than food.
    , @bartok
    I read somewhere that Starbucks breaks even on its London cafes, because of the rent. But it's worth it because of the Starbucks bean business (grocery stores).
    , @anon
    Starbucks don't have kitchens. No health department compliance. They sell a shitload of food (prepared elsewhere) for no kitchen. In some suburban stores, drive through is over 50% of revenue.

    My guess is that Starbucks will experience minimal financial consequences from this. However, it could signal peak Starbucks. Chipotle was derailed by its food poisoning incident.

    Revenues in Q2 totaled a record $6 billion, up 14% over last year, driven by comp increases of 2% globally and in the U.S. and 4% in China. Importantly, we saw comps accelerate in both the U.S. and China throughout the quarter, giving us confidence in both our full year and long-term guidance. At the same time, we opened nearly 500 new Starbucks stores globally in the quarter, and now operate over 28,000 stores in 76 countries, with our newest class of stores continuing to deliver best-in-class operating and financial performance and returns. And our record Q2 non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.53 represents an increase of 18% over last year.

     

    This was their 1Q conference call. 2% comps isn't great but it hit their guidance.
    , @Anon
    I didn’t over look costs such as labor rent repairs maintainence utilities and the rest

    Those things are a given and I didn’t think it necessary to mention them. Coffee tea and sodas are immensely profitable and a place that serves just coffee tea and packaged snacks makes a huge profit in the coffee and tea that’s mostly water

    Look at Starbucks in some cities there is one every mile or so and still it makes a profit

    Non alcoholic drinks are the way to go.
    , @Anon
    But Starbucks isn’t a restaurant is it????? It serves coffee tea and packaged snacks. So why mention real restaurants

    Labor??? 2 large Starbucks drinks cover the hourly wage of a clerk . 1 more covers the cost of SSA WCOMP etc. how many drinks does a Starbucks clerk make in an hour? A lot more than 3

    Unlike a real restaurant Starbucks doesn’t need to wash dishes need a grease trap and get it cleaned or the expense of fresh food and a kitchen with staff and waiters

    It can set up in any store without the hassle involved in real kitchen Why did you compare it to a real restaurant any way?

    Your comment was just ridiculous
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  48. Whiskey says: • Website

    It would be hilarious if someone organized a mass poc homeless sit in of Apple Stores. Newport Beach already has homeless.

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  49. Warner says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Get your coffee and leave

    This isn't hard people

    Almost no one sits down in Starbucks

    Wow. Tiny Duck just told black people the seats are taken. You blew it little duck!

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  50. @iffen
    Am I a bad person for hoping that the "homeless" worldwide will make Starbucks home central?

    If that makes you a bad person, then I’m bad too! This is an opportunity for James O’Keefe to get some good footage (for once); he could arrange for a busload of smelly homeless to arrive at a Starbucks.

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  51. eD says:
    @Moses
    Schultz is no dummy.

    You think he’s really going to let homeless camp out in his stores and frighten away all the GoodWhites?

    No.

    More likely he’ll give store managers the impossible double standard of maintaining clean, safe stores while also letting “anyone” camp out (at least in theory). The unwritten rule will be that anyone who causes a media blowup will be fired.

    I for one am looking forward to how this plays out.

    Moses #22 has a good point. This seems like one of those things where managers in corporations are supposed to do the exact opposition of stated corporate policy, but not get caught. We will see.

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  52. CCZ says:
    @Kylie
    "I am concerned that Starbucks providing a platform for blacks to play classical music will normalize cultural appropriation."

    Michelle Obama and Meaghan Markle already did that by straightening their hair while maintaining they were proud women of color.

    Of course, it's only normalized for the usual suspects.

    “Reverend” Al has beat TD to the punch line!!

    Al Sharpton: Royal wedding shows white supremacy is ‘on its last breath’
    By Morgan Gstalter – 05/19/18 The Hill.com

    Rev. Al Sharpton said Saturday’s nuptials between the U.K.’s Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, a biracial American actress, show that white male supremacy is “on its last breath.”

    “When you got little white girls in Wales saying, ‘I want to be like Meghan,’ there’s a shift worldwide that white male supremacy is on its last breath,” Sharpton said.

    “When you have little white girls in Arkansas look up and say, ‘I want to be beautiful and smart like Michelle Obama. I want to dress like the Obama girls (Sasha and Malia),’ that’s where that white supremacy is questioned,” Sharpton said. “White parents in their living room say, ‘We’ve got to do something.’ That’s what Trump played on. ‘We’re losing control of our own children.’”

    Sharpton went on to say white supremacist groups are “losing their minds” over the royal wedding. “They’re losing their minds because the world is passing away where they are the standard,” Sharpton said. “Where they decide what is beauty, where they decide what is of intellectual depth.”

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    The Guardian, usually sceptical and low-key in its Royal coverage, is going overboard on this particular wedding, the ethnic angle being key. Commenters seem to have noticed the change and aren't impressed.
    , @the one they call Desanex
    Prince Harry, the son of Prince Chuck,
    Found a “black girl” to marry and f---
    Whose skin isn’t inky,
    Nor hair coarse and kinky,
    Nor a-- quite as wide as a truck.
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  53. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew
    You've overlooked a few costs — labor, and rent. That $7 in your example is a lot less than a real restaurant would get for a meal. I'm amazed that Starbucks was ever able to survive at its high-rent locations. I guess it all works out for them, but I'm still amazed.

    Most restaurants make money on beverages and alcohol. Drinks have much higher margins than food.

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  54. @education realist
    Um, no. Where've you been? There are thousands of Starbucks across the country that are wall to wall students or other people using laptops non-stop all day.

    Yes but they are buying something at the very least.

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  55. Frank G says:

    Sad to see Starbucks capitulate to the mob, but I don’t think this will have much of an impact. Most normal people (who patronize coffee shops) understand that it’s just rude to loiter around.

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  56. Yes, but to get the wifi password you should have to buy something.

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    Yes, but to get the wifi password you should have to buy something.
     
    Or go elsewhere. The very popular Café Latte in St Paul turns its WiFi off during the lunch hours. Those in the long lines look askance at nibbling surfers at coveted tables.
    , @fitzGetty
    ... there is an ultra discreet Starbucks Secrete in central London ... tiny sign outside, dark within with table service from a bar looking like a Sandia lab ... no membership but access via recommendation only ...
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  57. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    I knew an old curmudgeon that kept kids out of his book store by ‘playing’ a sine wave tone in the 14-16 kHz range. Most old people, especially the old males he preferred as customers didn’t hear it at all but kids and some women it drove nuts. Most couldn’t quite make out what was going on but they knew it bothered them and they left.

    Years later it turned out they made commercial devices to do just this and sold them for a while. I think they were banned or got sued out of existence because it was alleged they caused tinnitus.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNf9nzvnd1k

    Wow, my hearing is shot, especially the left ear. On the other hand, with the higher frequencies, I'm not sure that my lower-end Onkyo Wavio desk speakers can handle them any better than my ears.
    , @Stan Adams
    I've never been diagnosed with tinnitus, but I've heard occasional ringing (like electronic "white noise") in my ears all my life. As a kid, I didn't even know that it wasn't normal. As an adult, I find it easy to ignore.
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    SBUX share price has been flat for almost two years now. The news will likely trigger a sell-off to a tune of 5-7%, followed by a long slow steady decline. Thank you, Mr Schultz! This will be a valuable lesson to thousands of American businesses.

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    Will Starbucks actually follow through with this, or are they just going to make some minor changes to their loitering policy then wait a few months for everyone to forget about it and go back to the status quo antebellum? I have to imagine, as Moses and eD suggest above, that this will not be followed in practice and any manager naive enough to actually do so will be out of a job; sort of like how James Damore was fired by Google for defending Google’s actual business practices.

    I ask because I can’t imagine that the policy as spelled out in the linked article will be literally followed. Given the experience of public libraries, if Starbucks actually allows anyone to walk into its branches and stay as long as they can get away with then they will be soon inundated with homeless people. This would make Starbucks a much less attractive destination for SWPL whites to go “work” on their “in-progress” novel, take their lover on a coffee date, study for upcoming exams or read the latest hot takes on why Drumpf is Literally Hitler.

    As usual, we have the recurring theme that Steve has so insightfully pointed out popping up in American life: are institutions, like countries and universities, more or less successful when they take care in choosing who gets to enter them? Common sense+skin in the game suggests yes, but the media and academia narrative says no. (Except for their institutions, personally, of course.)

    Granted, while I don’t think Starbucks will really follow through on this, the few instances where it does will be ripe for hilarious videos to be uploaded to YouTube and Worldstar Hiphop.

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    are institutions, like countries and universities, more or less successful when they take care in choosing who gets to enter them? Common sense+skin in the game suggests yes, but the media and academia narrative says no. (Except for their institutions, personally, of course.)

     

    Great point.

    Border/entry control is essential not just for institutions, countries and universities but for pretty much any distinct, sustainable system.

    Look at the foundation of all life, the humble cell. Its cell membrane separates the cell from everything else, and controls what enters (nutrients) and exits (waste) the cell.

    Dissolve the cell membrane and the cell dies.

    Dissolve admissions criteria and the university dies.

    Dissolve the border and the country dies.

    Our Israeli friends are pretty clued in on this.

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  60. They could get the kid from the royal wedding and his family:

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  61. Few composers ‘shred’ like Beethoven.

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  62. @MKP
    Exactly. Let them ruin their business by turning it into the fucking hobo bath house for all I care.

    Hell, I'm kinda looking forward to it. Let's see if all these woke white urbanites like sharing Starbucks with hobos. Who have wandered in off the street to clean their hobo bodies and try to bum money. Let's see if these enlightened Starbucks customers are ready to put their money where their mouths are.

    Exactly. Let them ruin their business by turning it into the fucking hobo bath house for all I care.

    Oh, boy! Another placement opportunity for my favorite link from 2017:

    https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/horrified-mcdonalds-customers-watch-naked-13434799

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    See you and raise. Interestingly the woman in the video is white. That's Canada for you.

    Woman Furiously Shits On Floor Of Tim Hortons, Throws It At Employees [Update]
    https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/woman-furiously-shits-on-floor-of-tim-hortons-throws-i-1826082960
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  63. @Steve Sailer
    Apples Stores are not exactly popping up like dandelions in vibrant neighborhoods.
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  64. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @eD
    You go with the classical music, and you do "club" or premium stores where people buy memberships and can stay as long as they want. They could just sell coffee and not even have stores at all but there is the problem is that their coffee sort of sucks.

    This is a good combination of "you can't have nice things" in a diverse, low trust society, combined with capitalist greed and over-expansion.

    Coffee-houses work great in a high trust society, yes you have someone conducting their business during the day on one cup of coffee, but with some gentle reminders he makes way for the family coming in, or he brings in his business associates next time and they all order lunch and it all works out somehow. If everyone is basically at war all the time with people in the wrong cultural/ ethnic group this can never work. If you have a store at all you sell your items from behind bullet proof glass, silently. And not incidentally, one clue that the USA is now a low trust society is that you rarely see customers talk to each other in a Starbucks. In past centuries, coffee houses is where you went for conversation (you went to taverns to hook up with prostitutes).

    Capitalist over-expansion as well. I went to the original Starbucks or one of the original ones in Seattle in 1991 and it was a cool coffee-shop. It had to be bought out and turned into an empire. Well you do this, you get a big corporate bureaucracy, and eventually you have to put more and more stores in downscale areas. Eventually the entire business model goes downscale. You also put independent stores and more reasonably scaled chains out of business on the way. McDonalds followed a similar trajectory. Limit or ban chains and the Philadelphia "incidents" don't happen, if nothing else because these particular stores don't exist.

    Starbucks already has a high-end concept store, though I don’t know how many they have now: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/12/05/business/in-the-capital-of-coffee-enthusiasm-for-starbucks-upmarket-chain.html

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    I've been to one. They had single coffees for up to $12 and $6 cups of artisanal vanilla froyo.

    The blue bottle chain in SF has $4.25 small cold brew coffee that tastes like magic. They refused to put sweet n low in it, just not kept on the premises, but they did have organic whole milk.

    Both of the last two times I saw light green eyed Mexicans they were hipster baristas. In Mexico, not here.

    SF starbucks are also ready for the city's disposable straw ban, to take effect in a few months. The new lids are like toddler sippy-cups and work well.
    , @wren
    I have been a few times, and, I have to admit, it was pretty good.

    I also have to admit I roast my own beans at home and brew coffee with a siphon every morning.
    , @education realist
    Not for nuthin, but I mentioned Starbucks Reserve in the very first comment on this thread.

    And as Brutusale says, it's pretty clear most of the commenters here have never been to a Starbucks. His comments are exactly right.

    Somewhere around 10% of the population comes in and stays for a long time. Did you ever notice there's no TV in Starbucks? Hell, sushi bars have TV these days. Why not Starbucks? Because they are happy to add the people who want a place to get away from TV--for their own sake. Why do I know this? Because I spend a lot of time in Starbucks writing for my blog. I also spend a lot of time in them when I'm on vacation. There's always one at walking distance, so I can walk to a coffee shop, get a drink, and write. Gets me some exercise, gets me away from TV.

    They also have a great loyalty program with lots of coupons.

    Starbucks with lots of homeless patrons keep their bathrooms under a coded lock. I don't know if those will all be undone.

    I can't remember who suggested that companies would do well simply to ignore media outrages like this. I hope some of them begin to realize how utterly worthless it is to respond to them.
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  65. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @eD
    You go with the classical music, and you do "club" or premium stores where people buy memberships and can stay as long as they want. They could just sell coffee and not even have stores at all but there is the problem is that their coffee sort of sucks.

    This is a good combination of "you can't have nice things" in a diverse, low trust society, combined with capitalist greed and over-expansion.

    Coffee-houses work great in a high trust society, yes you have someone conducting their business during the day on one cup of coffee, but with some gentle reminders he makes way for the family coming in, or he brings in his business associates next time and they all order lunch and it all works out somehow. If everyone is basically at war all the time with people in the wrong cultural/ ethnic group this can never work. If you have a store at all you sell your items from behind bullet proof glass, silently. And not incidentally, one clue that the USA is now a low trust society is that you rarely see customers talk to each other in a Starbucks. In past centuries, coffee houses is where you went for conversation (you went to taverns to hook up with prostitutes).

    Capitalist over-expansion as well. I went to the original Starbucks or one of the original ones in Seattle in 1991 and it was a cool coffee-shop. It had to be bought out and turned into an empire. Well you do this, you get a big corporate bureaucracy, and eventually you have to put more and more stores in downscale areas. Eventually the entire business model goes downscale. You also put independent stores and more reasonably scaled chains out of business on the way. McDonalds followed a similar trajectory. Limit or ban chains and the Philadelphia "incidents" don't happen, if nothing else because these particular stores don't exist.

    Some very upscale East Coast areas do restrict or ban franchises. Seems like a good idea to me because momsicle and popsicle businesses are less efficient and create more jobs if the money is there.

    Franchises do offer a more efficient business model but all that means is franchises can go into more marginal areas and/or offer more products and services in midgrade areas. But in upscale areas they are going to spend the money-why not make them spend a little more and create jobs? Only works where there is specific excess wealth.

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    It's part of the charm of visiting Avalon on Catalina Island 26 miles across the sea from Los Angeles: all the restaurants are non-chain local ones. I'm sure the chains would provide a little better value, but then it would be like being home instead of on an island in the Pacific.
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  66. @ScarletNumber
    Yes, but to get the wifi password you should have to buy something.

    Yes, but to get the wifi password you should have to buy something.

    Or go elsewhere. The very popular Café Latte in St Paul turns its WiFi off during the lunch hours. Those in the long lines look askance at nibbling surfers at coveted tables.

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  67. Lot says:
    @GMR
    This will likely have an impact in places like San Francisco, with large homeless populations. In my suburban CT town, there are no homeless people, and the Starbucks is in a strip mall that you have to drive to: very few people live within walking distance. So ours will be unaffected. It's a wealthy town, so students won't hang there: they've got too many activities.

    I can't imagine what will happen in places like SF or Seattle with large homeless populations. It doesn't take many homeless people to make a Starbucks completely unpalatable to normal people.

    The last time I saw a bum in a SF starbucks he put a $1 single banana and two glass bottles of fancy $4.50 iced teas on the counter. He didn’t have enough for both bottles, but still got the one.

    It was then I realized I was more of a cheapskate than a smelly bum. I’d never pay $4.50 for a bottle of ice tea. I really should also just start taking dollar store caffeine pills in the morning rather than $3 for a giant starbucks, but I like the taste.

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    You can make better coffee at home than what Starbucks gives you and it costs maybe 25 cents/cup to make, if that.
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  68. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Truth

    Yet … there must be an all-black string quartet or orchestra, right? They could sign a lucrative contract to be #Starbucks’ exclusive Inclusive purveyor of bum-repellent great music.

    Quick search online … Yes, there is!
     
    Just a quick word of concern/obserservation here, Steve-O: You are rapidly approaching that line of age/hubris-related, silk sheet, self-parody that old entertainers ridicule as young people, and almost invariably assume, before kitchy, but well-compensated, irrelevance. If you are unsure of what I am referring, watch some clips of William Shatner toward the end of the TJ Hooker run, or Al Pacino in Heat... Or listen for Dylan on a Traveling Wilburys album.

    Heat is an all-time great movie, and Al Pacino was fine in it. Peak, over-the-top Pacino was earlier, in Scent of a Woman.

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  69. @Tiny Duck
    Get your coffee and leave

    This isn't hard people

    Almost no one sits down in Starbucks

    Get your coffee and leave. This isn’t hard people. Almost no one sits down in Starbucks

    Duck, you keep making sense as regards God’s Chosen Hue, you’re going to lose your Black Panther Wakanda secret decoder ring. And you know what THAT means, they’ll be coming to GET you:

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    Damn shame they cut up all those old A-6s. Would make a hell of a warbird.
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  70. Lot says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Starbucks already has a high-end concept store, though I don’t know how many they have now: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/12/05/business/in-the-capital-of-coffee-enthusiasm-for-starbucks-upmarket-chain.html

    I’ve been to one. They had single coffees for up to $12 and $6 cups of artisanal vanilla froyo.

    The blue bottle chain in SF has $4.25 small cold brew coffee that tastes like magic. They refused to put sweet n low in it, just not kept on the premises, but they did have organic whole milk.

    Both of the last two times I saw light green eyed Mexicans they were hipster baristas. In Mexico, not here.

    SF starbucks are also ready for the city’s disposable straw ban, to take effect in a few months. The new lids are like toddler sippy-cups and work well.

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    I hate to be a witch , but what exactly is organic milk? My brother’s a diary farmer in Western Marin. So I’m very familiar with milk production.

    The cows graze on natural grass all day. They come home at 4/30 and eat hay till they are turned out in the morning.

    Some of the hay comes from my brothers fields, some from his neighbors. They do have some calcium vitamin pellets and sometimes oats for the protein.

    Organic food is just food labeled organic and sold to social climbers who like showing off that they can pay a big markup that the proles and peons can’t afford

    It’s like driving a Mercedes instead of a Toyata only cheaper

    Sorry, liberal social climbing pretensions are one of my pet peeves.
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  71. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @eD
    You go with the classical music, and you do "club" or premium stores where people buy memberships and can stay as long as they want. They could just sell coffee and not even have stores at all but there is the problem is that their coffee sort of sucks.

    This is a good combination of "you can't have nice things" in a diverse, low trust society, combined with capitalist greed and over-expansion.

    Coffee-houses work great in a high trust society, yes you have someone conducting their business during the day on one cup of coffee, but with some gentle reminders he makes way for the family coming in, or he brings in his business associates next time and they all order lunch and it all works out somehow. If everyone is basically at war all the time with people in the wrong cultural/ ethnic group this can never work. If you have a store at all you sell your items from behind bullet proof glass, silently. And not incidentally, one clue that the USA is now a low trust society is that you rarely see customers talk to each other in a Starbucks. In past centuries, coffee houses is where you went for conversation (you went to taverns to hook up with prostitutes).

    Capitalist over-expansion as well. I went to the original Starbucks or one of the original ones in Seattle in 1991 and it was a cool coffee-shop. It had to be bought out and turned into an empire. Well you do this, you get a big corporate bureaucracy, and eventually you have to put more and more stores in downscale areas. Eventually the entire business model goes downscale. You also put independent stores and more reasonably scaled chains out of business on the way. McDonalds followed a similar trajectory. Limit or ban chains and the Philadelphia "incidents" don't happen, if nothing else because these particular stores don't exist.

    Coffee-houses work great in a high trust society, yes you have someone conducting their business during the day on one cup of coffee, but with some gentle reminders he makes way for the family coming in, or he brings in his business associates next time and they all order lunch and it all works out somehow. If everyone is basically at war all the time with people in the wrong cultural/ ethnic group this can never work. If you have a store at all you sell your items from behind bullet proof glass, silently. And not incidentally, one clue that the USA is now a low trust society is that you rarely see customers talk to each other in a Starbucks. In past centuries, coffee houses is where you went for conversation (you went to taverns to hook up with prostitutes).

    Coffee houses were the breeding ground of the old Bolshevik left and of the folk music scare. The Waiting for Guffman crew did a great job of illustrating this era with the film A Mighty Wind.

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    "Coffee houses were the breeding ground of the old Bolshevik left and of the folk music scare."

    Is that an autocorrect for "scene"?

    Skiffle and a lot of Brit pop.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_2i%27s_Coffee_Bar

    Earlier incarnations gave us the marine insurance business, maybe The Spectator too.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd%27s_Coffee_House

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_coffeehouses_in_the_17th_and_18th_centuries

    , @Achmed E. Newman

    Coffee houses were the breeding ground of the old Bolshevik left and of the folk music scare.
     
    Haha! on the "scare". I'm not afeared of that folk music myself, unless Mama Cass were to threaten to sit on me - Bolsheviks, yeah that's another story.

    I agree with your "breeding ground" comment in general though. Here are my thoughts on Starbucks vs. the Viennese Kaffeehaus. vis a vis the breeding of commies/socialists. BTW, I Iearned how to say "vis a vis" at a coffee shop (not sure that I learned how to spell it!)

    BTW, you just came up with a new name for a new coffee shop I would like to open* in the Fremont neighborhood of Seattle - "The Breeding Grounds"! Man, you must be an MBAnonymous.


    * If I weren't so lazy and were a Communist, that is.

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  72. mobi says:

    The music approach would be a red flag before the enraged bull, at this point. (So, I endorse it fully!)

    I sense, however, a huge opportunity coming for a fleet of drones offering Starbucks home delivery. One that didn’t exist just two days ago.

    I’ll get on it, a soon as I get back from plastering my local skid row with flyers spreading the good news.

    Help me with a slogan, please. Something simple, but catchy.

    So far, I’ve got: ‘Starbucks – Come for a shit, stay for a sit, yo!’. (or should it be ‘sit’ then ‘shit’?)

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  73. @Buzz Mohawk
    That's an interesting recording. Sometimes when you listen to it you hear Beethoven, and sometimes you hear Yanni.

    Play it backwards and you get rap. Isn’t that curious?

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    Does that mean if you play rap backwards you get classical music?
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  74. @Anon
    The profit on non alcoholic beverages is unbelievable. If the waiters load the glasses with ice a restaurants can get thousands of $2.00 drinks out of a gallon of coke syrup.

    Coffee’s about the same profit, a little coffee, a little milk drop of vanilla a little sugar a blender full of ice and viola, a $7. 00 coffee slushy. Starbucks doesn’t need much turnover to make a profit.

    The profit on non alcoholic beverages is unbelievable. If the waiters load the glasses with ice a restaurants can get thousands of $2.00 drinks out of a gallon of coke syrup. Coffee’s about the same profit, a little coffee, a little milk drop of vanilla a little sugar a blender full of ice and viola, a $7. 00 coffee slushy. Starbucks doesn’t need much turnover to make a profit.

    Offered additions: All that and more. Extended nationwide, these coffee milkshakes brought us many tens of millions of the fattest asses in the world in only twenty years. And the rest of you thought the two angry Blacks were the problem.

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    Thanks for seeing my point instead of commenting that I don’t know that it costs more than the price of coffee to run a Starbucks like Econ 101 international Jew did
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  75. bartok says:
    @International Jew
    You've overlooked a few costs — labor, and rent. That $7 in your example is a lot less than a real restaurant would get for a meal. I'm amazed that Starbucks was ever able to survive at its high-rent locations. I guess it all works out for them, but I'm still amazed.

    I read somewhere that Starbucks breaks even on its London cafes, because of the rent. But it’s worth it because of the Starbucks bean business (grocery stores).

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  76. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    I always wondered who would go to a regular Starbucks in SF when there are so many alternatives, including Blue Bottle, Peet’s, and Philz.

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  77. bartok says:
    @Anon
    Starbucks needs to learn -- hey, we're at iSteve, so why not make a new law -- The First Law of Online Controversy: "Completely ignore social media denunciation of you or your company for two weeks, and it will go away as the mob tires and a new source of fake outrage appears." It might take three weeks for Starbucks. But the point is that you are the source of oxygen for the fire, and anything you say keeps it going, and nothing you say will absolve you in the eyes of the mob.

    It might take three weeks for Starbucks. But the point is that you are the source of oxygen for the fire, and anything you say keeps it going, and nothing you say will absolve you in the eyes of the mob.

    Schultz is the fire. That is to say that he welcome these incidents much like the EPA welcomes ‘friendly lawsuits’ from environmental groups. These incidents help Schultz to pozz the nation he wishes to transform and rule over. I assure you, he is energized and joyful when he gets the chance to whip his own company with the ‘fellow-white privilege’ lash.

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  78. wren says:
    @Truth

    Yet … there must be an all-black string quartet or orchestra, right? They could sign a lucrative contract to be #Starbucks’ exclusive Inclusive purveyor of bum-repellent great music.

    Quick search online … Yes, there is!
     
    Just a quick word of concern/obserservation here, Steve-O: You are rapidly approaching that line of age/hubris-related, silk sheet, self-parody that old entertainers ridicule as young people, and almost invariably assume, before kitchy, but well-compensated, irrelevance. If you are unsure of what I am referring, watch some clips of William Shatner toward the end of the TJ Hooker run, or Al Pacino in Heat... Or listen for Dylan on a Traveling Wilburys album.

    Brother, we are all going to seed together here in the comments section.

    I say that out of self concern/observation, too.

    An ex-Chicago cop coworker once invited me to a William Shatner show when he came through town.

    For some reason, I couldn’t make it, but since have decided that the next time Shatner stops by with his shtick, I will buy tickets and go.

    Perhaps with my kids.

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  79. @MKP
    Exactly. Let them ruin their business by turning it into the fucking hobo bath house for all I care.

    Hell, I'm kinda looking forward to it. Let's see if all these woke white urbanites like sharing Starbucks with hobos. Who have wandered in off the street to clean their hobo bodies and try to bum money. Let's see if these enlightened Starbucks customers are ready to put their money where their mouths are.

    Can’t they open up outlets for coloreds only, called Tar-Bucks & Sows. It could be a safe space from hostile white string music.

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  80. @Anonymous
    Some very upscale East Coast areas do restrict or ban franchises. Seems like a good idea to me because momsicle and popsicle businesses are less efficient and create more jobs if the money is there.

    Franchises do offer a more efficient business model but all that means is franchises can go into more marginal areas and/or offer more products and services in midgrade areas. But in upscale areas they are going to spend the money-why not make them spend a little more and create jobs? Only works where there is specific excess wealth.

    It’s part of the charm of visiting Avalon on Catalina Island 26 miles across the sea from Los Angeles: all the restaurants are non-chain local ones. I’m sure the chains would provide a little better value, but then it would be like being home instead of on an island in the Pacific.

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    then it would be like being home instead of on an island in the Pacific
     
    Save your money. Don't visit Japan.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Martha's Vineyard is like that, though there is a CVS and a Stop & Shop.
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  81. anon[116] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew
    You've overlooked a few costs — labor, and rent. That $7 in your example is a lot less than a real restaurant would get for a meal. I'm amazed that Starbucks was ever able to survive at its high-rent locations. I guess it all works out for them, but I'm still amazed.

    Starbucks don’t have kitchens. No health department compliance. They sell a shitload of food (prepared elsewhere) for no kitchen. In some suburban stores, drive through is over 50% of revenue.

    My guess is that Starbucks will experience minimal financial consequences from this. However, it could signal peak Starbucks. Chipotle was derailed by its food poisoning incident.

    Revenues in Q2 totaled a record $6 billion, up 14% over last year, driven by comp increases of 2% globally and in the U.S. and 4% in China. Importantly, we saw comps accelerate in both the U.S. and China throughout the quarter, giving us confidence in both our full year and long-term guidance. At the same time, we opened nearly 500 new Starbucks stores globally in the quarter, and now operate over 28,000 stores in 76 countries, with our newest class of stores continuing to deliver best-in-class operating and financial performance and returns. And our record Q2 non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.53 represents an increase of 18% over last year.

    This was their 1Q conference call. 2% comps isn’t great but it hit their guidance.

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    Thanks for pointing out the difference between a real restaurant and a Starbucks something international Jew doesn’t realize.
    , @anon
    As a stock or business, I don't have a dog in the hunt. As a citizen, their bloviating virtue signaling is disgusting and perversely racist. Alas, the business will probably shrug it off.
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  82. Anon[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @wren
    I'm guessing that Carnival employed them because they were not American and could be paid cruise ship international standard, whatever that is...

    Incidentally, I had to check my stereotypes when my wife and I went for a cruise on the Carnival Spirit last year. The music at afternoon tea time was provided by a a double bass and viola – played by two black musicians who were extremely competent.

    I’m guessing that Carnival employed them because they were not American and could be paid cruise ship international standard, whatever that is…

    Exactly. The ships are registered in places like Panama and employ very low-paid staff. However, a refined female Jewish acquaintance of mine who was a jeweller at Harry Winston in Beverly Hills was hired away by a cruise line. To sell high-priced and easily pocketed and hocked items they need to pay American rates for the staff, it seems.

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  83. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian

    Get your coffee and leave. This isn’t hard people. Almost no one sits down in Starbucks
     
    Duck, you keep making sense as regards God's Chosen Hue, you're going to lose your Black Panther Wakanda secret decoder ring. And you know what THAT means, they'll be coming to GET you:

    http://www.seaforces.org/usnair/VA/Attack-Squadron-35-Dateien/image137.jpg

    Damn shame they cut up all those old A-6s. Would make a hell of a warbird.

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    Meh, when the A-6s started falling apart in midair, they had to go. They kept the line open for decades, but only for attrition. Still, the A-6 was a far better bomber than the F-18s, but connections back to Lockheed and the F-35 disaster/profit-pig meant that a proven, economical bombing solution was lost. Why make tens of millions when you can make a trillion and not even have to deliver a mission-capable bird? Hell, they even have three carriers, the Ford Class (the one with no planes aboard), 15 billion dollars each before planes, that can't launch planes and can't even recover them because of new-design, inoperative catapults and arresting gear. They don't work. Amazing, the shit you can make money on. Look up EMALS, sometime. Carlton Meyers has a piece on it. Every word is true. We're going to have to cut up three brand new carrier hulls before it's over with. Because the Nimitz Class just didn't stand the test of time (At only 6 billion per), right? The lead ship of the class is still sailing 45 years later. It's the best-kept secret in the Deep State:

    http://www.g2mil.com/USSFord.JPG

    http://www.g2mil.com/EMALS.htm

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  84. Anon[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    I knew an old curmudgeon that kept kids out of his book store by 'playing' a sine wave tone in the 14-16 kHz range. Most old people, especially the old males he preferred as customers didn't hear it at all but kids and some women it drove nuts. Most couldn't quite make out what was going on but they knew it bothered them and they left.


    Years later it turned out they made commercial devices to do just this and sold them for a while. I think they were banned or got sued out of existence because it was alleged they caused tinnitus.

    Wow, my hearing is shot, especially the left ear. On the other hand, with the higher frequencies, I’m not sure that my lower-end Onkyo Wavio desk speakers can handle them any better than my ears.

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  85. Moses says:
    @Anonymous
    Will Starbucks actually follow through with this, or are they just going to make some minor changes to their loitering policy then wait a few months for everyone to forget about it and go back to the status quo antebellum? I have to imagine, as Moses and eD suggest above, that this will not be followed in practice and any manager naive enough to actually do so will be out of a job; sort of like how James Damore was fired by Google for defending Google's actual business practices.

    I ask because I can't imagine that the policy as spelled out in the linked article will be literally followed. Given the experience of public libraries, if Starbucks actually allows anyone to walk into its branches and stay as long as they can get away with then they will be soon inundated with homeless people. This would make Starbucks a much less attractive destination for SWPL whites to go "work" on their "in-progress" novel, take their lover on a coffee date, study for upcoming exams or read the latest hot takes on why Drumpf is Literally Hitler.

    As usual, we have the recurring theme that Steve has so insightfully pointed out popping up in American life: are institutions, like countries and universities, more or less successful when they take care in choosing who gets to enter them? Common sense+skin in the game suggests yes, but the media and academia narrative says no. (Except for their institutions, personally, of course.)

    Granted, while I don't think Starbucks will really follow through on this, the few instances where it does will be ripe for hilarious videos to be uploaded to YouTube and Worldstar Hiphop.

    are institutions, like countries and universities, more or less successful when they take care in choosing who gets to enter them? Common sense+skin in the game suggests yes, but the media and academia narrative says no. (Except for their institutions, personally, of course.)

    Great point.

    Border/entry control is essential not just for institutions, countries and universities but for pretty much any distinct, sustainable system.

    Look at the foundation of all life, the humble cell. Its cell membrane separates the cell from everything else, and controls what enters (nutrients) and exits (waste) the cell.

    Dissolve the cell membrane and the cell dies.

    Dissolve admissions criteria and the university dies.

    Dissolve the border and the country dies.

    Our Israeli friends are pretty clued in on this.

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    You must not only implement border control for yourself, you must deny it to your enemies.

    Our [Jewish] friends are pretty clued in on this.

     

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  86. @International Jew
    What's going to kill Starbucks isn't the homeless, but the high school and college students who will camp out to do their homework.

    They have been doing that for years. I would walk by Starbucks during the day, inbetween classes, and always see a few young people using the free Wifi or coursework. The stores didn’t seem to mind that students were hogging the tables and chairs.

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  87. Anonymous[619] • Disclaimer says:

    ‘Starbucks’ – now there’s an interesting name for your local neighborhood ‘public convenience’.

    The signposts reading ‘Ladies & Gents’ used to suffice before private enterprise graciously decided to ‘contract out’ the former responsibility of local government.
    One must wonder if the new-fangled conveniences – which, by the way, retail overpriced ‘coffee’ as a sideline – will evolve into ‘cottages’ for ‘cruising’ gay men, as, alas, so many of the local government run ‘public toilets’ did – why do you think that the former public toilets more or less vanished from the landscape these past 50 years? – that and oil crisis induced penny pinching.

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    A friend does the senior citizen lunch program in a community center in a gay neighborhood

    The community center of course has 2 big bathrooms. So many gays were doing it in the bathrooms that she made the parks department hire a security guard for both bathrooms. The guards stay in the bathrooms and they took the doors off the stalls in the men’s room.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Anonymous[619]:

    Because of muggers, dopesters, gays, all NYC subway rest rooms were abolished from the time of Bonfire of the Vanities. The only exceptions were those located at line ends for the convenience of motormen and conductors.
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  88. wren says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Starbucks already has a high-end concept store, though I don’t know how many they have now: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/12/05/business/in-the-capital-of-coffee-enthusiasm-for-starbucks-upmarket-chain.html

    I have been a few times, and, I have to admit, it was pretty good.

    I also have to admit I roast my own beans at home and brew coffee with a siphon every morning.

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  89. @Jack Hanson
    Starbucks are gonna follow the trajectory of shopping malls.

    Amazon Cafe! Have a latte delivered to your door in less than 24 hours!

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  90. @Steve Sailer
    It's part of the charm of visiting Avalon on Catalina Island 26 miles across the sea from Los Angeles: all the restaurants are non-chain local ones. I'm sure the chains would provide a little better value, but then it would be like being home instead of on an island in the Pacific.

    then it would be like being home instead of on an island in the Pacific

    Save your money. Don’t visit Japan.

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    All those little, local siphon coffee shops are gone now?

    Assimilated by Starbucks?

    What a shame.
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  91. Free Advice for Starbucks’ Howard Schultz on How to Stay Rich

    I thought you were going to suggest starting a blog and asking for donations every few months.

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  92. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew
    You've overlooked a few costs — labor, and rent. That $7 in your example is a lot less than a real restaurant would get for a meal. I'm amazed that Starbucks was ever able to survive at its high-rent locations. I guess it all works out for them, but I'm still amazed.

    I didn’t over look costs such as labor rent repairs maintainence utilities and the rest

    Those things are a given and I didn’t think it necessary to mention them. Coffee tea and sodas are immensely profitable and a place that serves just coffee tea and packaged snacks makes a huge profit in the coffee and tea that’s mostly water

    Look at Starbucks in some cities there is one every mile or so and still it makes a profit

    Non alcoholic drinks are the way to go.

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  93. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew
    You've overlooked a few costs — labor, and rent. That $7 in your example is a lot less than a real restaurant would get for a meal. I'm amazed that Starbucks was ever able to survive at its high-rent locations. I guess it all works out for them, but I'm still amazed.

    But Starbucks isn’t a restaurant is it????? It serves coffee tea and packaged snacks. So why mention real restaurants

    Labor??? 2 large Starbucks drinks cover the hourly wage of a clerk . 1 more covers the cost of SSA WCOMP etc. how many drinks does a Starbucks clerk make in an hour? A lot more than 3

    Unlike a real restaurant Starbucks doesn’t need to wash dishes need a grease trap and get it cleaned or the expense of fresh food and a kitchen with staff and waiters

    It can set up in any store without the hassle involved in real kitchen Why did you compare it to a real restaurant any way?

    Your comment was just ridiculous

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    "Your comment was just ridiculous"

    Calm down dude, no need to be an a**hole.
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  94. @Dave Pinsen
    I played Beethoven's Grosse Fugue for my college roommate once (the Mahler arrangement of it, IIRC), and he said, "You can tell he was deaf when wrote this". It grows on you though.

    The one time Starbucks successfully warded me off with music is when they played Paul McCartney's new album in heavy rotation.

    Paul McCartney’s new album in heavy rotation

    No! No! Do it to Julia!

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  95. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian

    The profit on non alcoholic beverages is unbelievable. If the waiters load the glasses with ice a restaurants can get thousands of $2.00 drinks out of a gallon of coke syrup. Coffee’s about the same profit, a little coffee, a little milk drop of vanilla a little sugar a blender full of ice and viola, a $7. 00 coffee slushy. Starbucks doesn’t need much turnover to make a profit.
     
    Offered additions: All that and more. Extended nationwide, these coffee milkshakes brought us many tens of millions of the fattest asses in the world in only twenty years. And the rest of you thought the two angry Blacks were the problem.

    Thanks for seeing my point instead of commenting that I don’t know that it costs more than the price of coffee to run a Starbucks like Econ 101 international Jew did

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  96. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Get your coffee and leave

    This isn't hard people

    Almost no one sits down in Starbucks

    I walked past a Starbucks one am. It was in a mini mall. I got my haircut went to the bank and a drugstore. About 2 hours later walked back past the Starbucks and same people were still there.

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  97. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Starbucks don't have kitchens. No health department compliance. They sell a shitload of food (prepared elsewhere) for no kitchen. In some suburban stores, drive through is over 50% of revenue.

    My guess is that Starbucks will experience minimal financial consequences from this. However, it could signal peak Starbucks. Chipotle was derailed by its food poisoning incident.

    Revenues in Q2 totaled a record $6 billion, up 14% over last year, driven by comp increases of 2% globally and in the U.S. and 4% in China. Importantly, we saw comps accelerate in both the U.S. and China throughout the quarter, giving us confidence in both our full year and long-term guidance. At the same time, we opened nearly 500 new Starbucks stores globally in the quarter, and now operate over 28,000 stores in 76 countries, with our newest class of stores continuing to deliver best-in-class operating and financial performance and returns. And our record Q2 non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.53 represents an increase of 18% over last year.

     

    This was their 1Q conference call. 2% comps isn't great but it hit their guidance.

    Thanks for pointing out the difference between a real restaurant and a Starbucks something international Jew doesn’t realize.

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  98. @Escher

    Starbucks could hire the all-black woman Marian Anderson String Quartet to provide 24/7 recorded classical music that homeless people and punks loitering with criminal intent just … can’t … stand.
     
    Per the law of unintended consequences, this will likely lead to claims that Beethoven, Brahms et al were black.

    Do keep up, my dear chap.

    Ludwig van Beethoven was of African descent, and the truth of his ethnic origins was covered up through a mixture of white powder worn on his face when out in public, the use of body doubles for portraits, and “euro-centric” historians, hiding the truth of his genetic heritage.

    https://www.limelightmagazine.com.au/news/new-website-claims-beethoven-was-african/

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  99. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hans Tholstrup
    Amusing, Steve. :)
    Incidentally, I had to check my stereotypes when my wife and I went for a cruise on the Carnival Spirit last year. The music at afternoon tea time was provided by a a double bass and viola - played by two black musicians who were extremely competent.
    Maybe Howard should give 'em a call...

    Every Nordstrom’s I’ve been to has a black man playing classical piano.

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    Every Nordstrom’s I’ve been to has a black man playing classical piano.
     
    And you know what? It is the SAME black man at every one.
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  100. wren says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    then it would be like being home instead of on an island in the Pacific
     
    Save your money. Don't visit Japan.

    All those little, local siphon coffee shops are gone now?

    Assimilated by Starbucks?

    What a shame.

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    Not all, but they are anachronisms staffed and frequented by older people. Anyway, apparently it was Dothour, not Starbucks, that killed the independent coffee house scene.
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  101. @CCZ
    “Reverend” Al has beat TD to the punch line!!

    Al Sharpton: Royal wedding shows white supremacy is ‘on its last breath'
    By Morgan Gstalter - 05/19/18 The Hill.com

    Rev. Al Sharpton said Saturday’s nuptials between the U.K.’s Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, a biracial American actress, show that white male supremacy is “on its last breath.”

    "When you got little white girls in Wales saying, 'I want to be like Meghan,' there's a shift worldwide that white male supremacy is on its last breath," Sharpton said.

    "When you have little white girls in Arkansas look up and say, 'I want to be beautiful and smart like Michelle Obama. I want to dress like the Obama girls (Sasha and Malia),' that's where that white supremacy is questioned,” Sharpton said. “White parents in their living room say, 'We've got to do something.' That's what Trump played on. 'We're losing control of our own children.’”

    Sharpton went on to say white supremacist groups are "losing their minds" over the royal wedding. “They're losing their minds because the world is passing away where they are the standard,” Sharpton said. “Where they decide what is beauty, where they decide what is of intellectual depth.”

     

    The Guardian, usually sceptical and low-key in its Royal coverage, is going overboard on this particular wedding, the ethnic angle being key. Commenters seem to have noticed the change and aren’t impressed.

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  102. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    'Starbucks' - now there's an interesting name for your local neighborhood 'public convenience'.

    The signposts reading 'Ladies & Gents' used to suffice before private enterprise graciously decided to 'contract out' the former responsibility of local government.
    One must wonder if the new-fangled conveniences - which, by the way, retail overpriced 'coffee' as a sideline - will evolve into 'cottages' for 'cruising' gay men, as, alas, so many of the local government run 'public toilets' did - why do you think that the former public toilets more or less vanished from the landscape these past 50 years? - that and oil crisis induced penny pinching.

    A friend does the senior citizen lunch program in a community center in a gay neighborhood

    The community center of course has 2 big bathrooms. So many gays were doing it in the bathrooms that she made the parks department hire a security guard for both bathrooms. The guards stay in the bathrooms and they took the doors off the stalls in the men’s room.

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    Anon:

    Its just MODERN TIMES!

    , @TheBoom
    The parks department had to take the doors off the stalls at a famous rest stop on 280 in silicon valley. Apparently, homosexuals weren't stopping there to rest
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  103. Dan Hayes says:
    @Anonymous
    'Starbucks' - now there's an interesting name for your local neighborhood 'public convenience'.

    The signposts reading 'Ladies & Gents' used to suffice before private enterprise graciously decided to 'contract out' the former responsibility of local government.
    One must wonder if the new-fangled conveniences - which, by the way, retail overpriced 'coffee' as a sideline - will evolve into 'cottages' for 'cruising' gay men, as, alas, so many of the local government run 'public toilets' did - why do you think that the former public toilets more or less vanished from the landscape these past 50 years? - that and oil crisis induced penny pinching.

    Anonymous[619]:

    Because of muggers, dopesters, gays, all NYC subway rest rooms were abolished from the time of Bonfire of the Vanities. The only exceptions were those located at line ends for the convenience of motormen and conductors.

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  104. donut says:
    @wren
    For example, all people entering the store get hit with something like this:

    https://youtu.be/vVxcvkIGTCI

    The only way to turn it off would be to buy something (that includes 30 minutes of peace) or just buy the silence directly on an app.

    No one is denied entry.

    I suspect that a lot of Howard’s new friends are already hearing voices in their heads .

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  105. @Anonymous


    Coffee-houses work great in a high trust society, yes you have someone conducting their business during the day on one cup of coffee, but with some gentle reminders he makes way for the family coming in, or he brings in his business associates next time and they all order lunch and it all works out somehow. If everyone is basically at war all the time with people in the wrong cultural/ ethnic group this can never work. If you have a store at all you sell your items from behind bullet proof glass, silently. And not incidentally, one clue that the USA is now a low trust society is that you rarely see customers talk to each other in a Starbucks. In past centuries, coffee houses is where you went for conversation (you went to taverns to hook up with prostitutes).
     
    Coffee houses were the breeding ground of the old Bolshevik left and of the folk music scare. The Waiting for Guffman crew did a great job of illustrating this era with the film A Mighty Wind.

    “Coffee houses were the breeding ground of the old Bolshevik left and of the folk music scare.”

    Is that an autocorrect for “scene”?

    Skiffle and a lot of Brit pop.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_2i%27s_Coffee_Bar

    Earlier incarnations gave us the marine insurance business, maybe The Spectator too.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd%27s_Coffee_House

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_coffeehouses_in_the_17th_and_18th_centuries

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  106. Anonym says:
    @Not Raul
    That’s actually a brilliant idea, Steve.

    You could write a letter to Starbucks. You could mention your market research experience.

    There are a few things you obviously shouldn’t mention.

    This is a great idea. I suggest that this classical music by black musician marketing campaign have the slogan “Let the good times roll!”

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  107. @Anonymous
    Damn shame they cut up all those old A-6s. Would make a hell of a warbird.

    Meh, when the A-6s started falling apart in midair, they had to go. They kept the line open for decades, but only for attrition. Still, the A-6 was a far better bomber than the F-18s, but connections back to Lockheed and the F-35 disaster/profit-pig meant that a proven, economical bombing solution was lost. Why make tens of millions when you can make a trillion and not even have to deliver a mission-capable bird? Hell, they even have three carriers, the Ford Class (the one with no planes aboard), 15 billion dollars each before planes, that can’t launch planes and can’t even recover them because of new-design, inoperative catapults and arresting gear. They don’t work. Amazing, the shit you can make money on. Look up EMALS, sometime. Carlton Meyers has a piece on it. Every word is true. We’re going to have to cut up three brand new carrier hulls before it’s over with. Because the Nimitz Class just didn’t stand the test of time (At only 6 billion per), right? The lead ship of the class is still sailing 45 years later. It’s the best-kept secret in the Deep State:

    http://www.g2mil.com/EMALS.htm

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  108. Dan Hayes says:
    @Anon
    A friend does the senior citizen lunch program in a community center in a gay neighborhood

    The community center of course has 2 big bathrooms. So many gays were doing it in the bathrooms that she made the parks department hire a security guard for both bathrooms. The guards stay in the bathrooms and they took the doors off the stalls in the men’s room.

    Anon:

    Its just MODERN TIMES!

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  109. TheBoom says:
    @Anon
    A friend does the senior citizen lunch program in a community center in a gay neighborhood

    The community center of course has 2 big bathrooms. So many gays were doing it in the bathrooms that she made the parks department hire a security guard for both bathrooms. The guards stay in the bathrooms and they took the doors off the stalls in the men’s room.

    The parks department had to take the doors off the stalls at a famous rest stop on 280 in silicon valley. Apparently, homosexuals weren’t stopping there to rest

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    I remember when that was still considered an 'outrage' and a feature story in the SF Chronicle. I was a student at UC and remember chatting with a campus cop. I asked him what the biggest problem he was having thinking bicycle theft or marijuana use would be it. No, he said it was perversion in the public toilets. Seems one person would stand in a shopping bag while another seated on the toilet would service him. Cops would only see one pair of shoes in the stall if they inspected the toilet!

    This was several years before the 'glory hole' was invented. I was living in San Rafael when I learned of that invention. Seemed a bar across the street from the Greyhound bus station discovered holes had been drilled in the toilet stall partitions. Once the owner learned their purpose he removed the partitions.
    , @Pericles

    The parks department had to take the doors off the stalls at a famous rest stop on 280 in silicon valley.

     

    Makes me wonder about the restrooms at Google, and Tim Cook's executive suite.
    , @Mr. Anon

    The parks department had to take the doors off the stalls at a famous rest stop on 280 in silicon valley. Apparently, homosexuals weren’t stopping there to rest.
     
    The argument always used to be that homosexuals had no other outlet, repressed as they were and all. But nobody could claim that they are repressed now, and certainly not in the Bay Area. Evidently, anonymous bathroom sodomy is just part of the gay lifestyle. No doubt there will soon be a crusade for its legalization, and if you object to it, then YOU are the problem.
    , @ScarletNumber
    The northern-most rest stop on the New Jersey Turnpike is named for Vince Lombardi, only a few miles from David Pinsen.

    This rest stop was a notorious cruising place for gays. Ironically, Lombardi died from prostate cancer. He was too homophobic to get the test done.
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  110. JimB says:

    Unless you have a homeless problem in your city you have no idea how vile public bathrooms can become. Transit bathroom stations in SF often must be closed permanently as health hazards. One good tip: if you need to use one- roll up pant cuffs, and make sure shoe lace tips are tucked into your shoes. Homeless people will go into a bathroom and literally ignore the toilet, urinating and defecating on the floor. In the SF Public Library, the first floor main bathroom is stomach churning because of the foul oder. It’s so bad all floors in the SF public library, including the children’s section, are rank with stale urine. It’s so bad that the smell is permanently embedded in all the books. Humans are animals, and like all animals, they can turn into a noxious infestation. Many Starbucks bathrooms in SF are not cleaner than transit station or library bathrooms and employees restrict access because they don’t want to clean up the aftermath of misuse.

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    Unless you have a homeless problem in your city you have no idea how vile public bathrooms can become.
     
    The solution to this is for a staff member to check the toilet every hour or half hour and sign off it. If there is a problem, fix it immediately. This is where people suddenly want to have Mexican illegals to hire, when normal staff have to clean bathrooms. In Japan there are checklists in toilets signed off with personal stamps, and the toilet paper is folded into a point to prove that a staff member had just been in the room.

    But if you really monitor it and check the CCTV after every problem, and ban people who have caused problems, and key the bathroom with a key attached to something big, and set a timer every time someone uses the toilet, and knock on the door when they exceed the time, and do that in a normal volume voice so people around hear it and look at the toilet user when he or she exits, and so on, you will have a nice toilet.

    This is Broken Windows 101.

    It also helps to put cute little decorations in the bathroom, dried flowers, lavender scented items, stuff like that, buy it in bulk from Daiso or the Dollar Store. Like classical music, the impression that there is some woman decorating and taking care of the toilet has an effect on scumbags.

    One trick might be to hire actors, some dressed up as homeless people, and photograph them exiting and entering the toilet. Make a sort of ten-most-wanted list of people on some sheets of paper with the photos and a titles of May Not Use Toilet, perhaps with some fake dates and the like, a couple with notations of Call Police. Post them on the wall next to the key, visible but in a way that they don't seem to be deliberately visible.

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  111. bomag says:
    @27 year old
    I don't think this will hurt them much in the big picture, but it will create a lot of unpleasantness for a some unlucky people.

    I predict there will be some methods devised to gently encourage non-customers to leave, but these methods will only be used against Whites.

    I suspect they will find ways to keep their store looking nice and keep attracting the ‘right’ kind of people.

    Membership cards?

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  112. @wren
    All those little, local siphon coffee shops are gone now?

    Assimilated by Starbucks?

    What a shame.

    Not all, but they are anachronisms staffed and frequented by older people. Anyway, apparently it was Dothour, not Starbucks, that killed the independent coffee house scene.

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    Sad!

    I enjoyed those places, and their nice breakfast sets or afternoon coffee.

    Still, in my book anyway, Doutor beats Starbucks.

    http://w-coffee.asia/menu/breakfast/images/img_breakfast01-buttertoast.jpg
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  113. OT – “Trump Made Me Do It” – Markle’s (white) nephew flees UK police.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6336636/meghan-markle-nephew-carries-knife-into-london-nightclub/

    “The Dooleys declined to comment and hid inside a bin cupboard at the Hilton DoubleTree hotel in Kingston when The Sun asked them about the incident.”

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    He told a reveller at Bacchus in Kingston, South West London: “I just brought it because Donald Trump said London was like a war zone. I had it for protection.
     
    It's funny he thought this about Kingston
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  114. DFH says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    OT - "Trump Made Me Do It" - Markle's (white) nephew flees UK police.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6336636/meghan-markle-nephew-carries-knife-into-london-nightclub/

    "The Dooleys declined to comment and hid inside a bin cupboard at the Hilton DoubleTree hotel in Kingston when The Sun asked them about the incident."

    He told a reveller at Bacchus in Kingston, South West London: “I just brought it because Donald Trump said London was like a war zone. I had it for protection.

    It’s funny he thought this about Kingston

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  115. Anon[148] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @JimB
    Unless you have a homeless problem in your city you have no idea how vile public bathrooms can become. Transit bathroom stations in SF often must be closed permanently as health hazards. One good tip: if you need to use one- roll up pant cuffs, and make sure shoe lace tips are tucked into your shoes. Homeless people will go into a bathroom and literally ignore the toilet, urinating and defecating on the floor. In the SF Public Library, the first floor main bathroom is stomach churning because of the foul oder. It’s so bad all floors in the SF public library, including the children’s section, are rank with stale urine. It’s so bad that the smell is permanently embedded in all the books. Humans are animals, and like all animals, they can turn into a noxious infestation. Many Starbucks bathrooms in SF are not cleaner than transit station or library bathrooms and employees restrict access because they don’t want to clean up the aftermath of misuse.

    Unless you have a homeless problem in your city you have no idea how vile public bathrooms can become.

    The solution to this is for a staff member to check the toilet every hour or half hour and sign off it. If there is a problem, fix it immediately. This is where people suddenly want to have Mexican illegals to hire, when normal staff have to clean bathrooms. In Japan there are checklists in toilets signed off with personal stamps, and the toilet paper is folded into a point to prove that a staff member had just been in the room.

    But if you really monitor it and check the CCTV after every problem, and ban people who have caused problems, and key the bathroom with a key attached to something big, and set a timer every time someone uses the toilet, and knock on the door when they exceed the time, and do that in a normal volume voice so people around hear it and look at the toilet user when he or she exits, and so on, you will have a nice toilet.

    This is Broken Windows 101.

    It also helps to put cute little decorations in the bathroom, dried flowers, lavender scented items, stuff like that, buy it in bulk from Daiso or the Dollar Store. Like classical music, the impression that there is some woman decorating and taking care of the toilet has an effect on scumbags.

    One trick might be to hire actors, some dressed up as homeless people, and photograph them exiting and entering the toilet. Make a sort of ten-most-wanted list of people on some sheets of paper with the photos and a titles of May Not Use Toilet, perhaps with some fake dates and the like, a couple with notations of Call Police. Post them on the wall next to the key, visible but in a way that they don’t seem to be deliberately visible.

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    I think you've made the point better than anyone can with charts, studies, statistics, Ph.D.s, Amren conferences etc. about how troublesome diversity and the undertow really are.
    , @Anon
    I don’t see how that will work in a coffee place. For one thing, it’s against health regulations to have clerks running back and forth between cleaning bathrooms and serving food and drink.

    Then too, who has the time especially in morning rush and at lunch when people are lined up waiting.

    For your thing to work a janitor would have to be hired to be bathroom monitor.
    , @Jack D
    Better not be any black people in those photos. Also not anyone who appears to be mentally ill. Etc.
    , @JimB
    Like Pig Pen, homeless people seem to travel about enveloped by their own noxious cloud. If you are compelled to let them use your facilities it will smell like them after a single use even if you have a strong ventilation system. The only thing that works are bathrooms that can self steam clean. Some gas stations on freeways in remote areas install then. Literally the entire bathroom flushes, not just the toilet.
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  116. slumber_j says:
    @Anon
    The profit on non alcoholic beverages is unbelievable. If the waiters load the glasses with ice a restaurants can get thousands of $2.00 drinks out of a gallon of coke syrup.

    Coffee’s about the same profit, a little coffee, a little milk drop of vanilla a little sugar a blender full of ice and viola, a $7. 00 coffee slushy. Starbucks doesn’t need much turnover to make a profit.

    Yeah, it’s all about slinging coffee. And if you want to make money on food that you make in-house, it’s pizza: that’s where the margin is.

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  117. Sunbeam says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Exactly. Let them ruin their business by turning it into the fucking hobo bath house for all I care.
     
    Oh, boy! Another placement opportunity for my favorite link from 2017:

    https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/horrified-mcdonalds-customers-watch-naked-13434799

    See you and raise. Interestingly the woman in the video is white. That’s Canada for you.

    Woman Furiously Shits On Floor Of Tim Hortons, Throws It At Employees [Update]

    https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/woman-furiously-shits-on-floor-of-tim-hortons-throws-i-1826082960

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  118. unit472 says:
    @TheBoom
    The parks department had to take the doors off the stalls at a famous rest stop on 280 in silicon valley. Apparently, homosexuals weren't stopping there to rest

    I remember when that was still considered an ‘outrage’ and a feature story in the SF Chronicle. I was a student at UC and remember chatting with a campus cop. I asked him what the biggest problem he was having thinking bicycle theft or marijuana use would be it. No, he said it was perversion in the public toilets. Seems one person would stand in a shopping bag while another seated on the toilet would service him. Cops would only see one pair of shoes in the stall if they inspected the toilet!

    This was several years before the ‘glory hole’ was invented. I was living in San Rafael when I learned of that invention. Seemed a bar across the street from the Greyhound bus station discovered holes had been drilled in the toilet stall partitions. Once the owner learned their purpose he removed the partitions.

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  119. @Tiny Duck
    Get your coffee and leave

    This isn't hard people

    Almost no one sits down in Starbucks

    “Get your coffee and leave”? Pay $6 for a cup of coffee and leave without preening behind a laptop with some silly ass virtue signal sticker on the top cover conspicuously visible to the other congregants??

    That would be like having a royal wedding and ordering the royal sommeliers to decant the entire royal wine cellar offerings into screw cap to go Night Train bottles collected from under Baltimore bridges.

    Image result for night train wine

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  120. @Anon

    Unless you have a homeless problem in your city you have no idea how vile public bathrooms can become.
     
    The solution to this is for a staff member to check the toilet every hour or half hour and sign off it. If there is a problem, fix it immediately. This is where people suddenly want to have Mexican illegals to hire, when normal staff have to clean bathrooms. In Japan there are checklists in toilets signed off with personal stamps, and the toilet paper is folded into a point to prove that a staff member had just been in the room.

    But if you really monitor it and check the CCTV after every problem, and ban people who have caused problems, and key the bathroom with a key attached to something big, and set a timer every time someone uses the toilet, and knock on the door when they exceed the time, and do that in a normal volume voice so people around hear it and look at the toilet user when he or she exits, and so on, you will have a nice toilet.

    This is Broken Windows 101.

    It also helps to put cute little decorations in the bathroom, dried flowers, lavender scented items, stuff like that, buy it in bulk from Daiso or the Dollar Store. Like classical music, the impression that there is some woman decorating and taking care of the toilet has an effect on scumbags.

    One trick might be to hire actors, some dressed up as homeless people, and photograph them exiting and entering the toilet. Make a sort of ten-most-wanted list of people on some sheets of paper with the photos and a titles of May Not Use Toilet, perhaps with some fake dates and the like, a couple with notations of Call Police. Post them on the wall next to the key, visible but in a way that they don't seem to be deliberately visible.

    I think you’ve made the point better than anyone can with charts, studies, statistics, Ph.D.s, Amren conferences etc. about how troublesome diversity and the undertow really are.

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  121. Pericles says:
    @Moses

    are institutions, like countries and universities, more or less successful when they take care in choosing who gets to enter them? Common sense+skin in the game suggests yes, but the media and academia narrative says no. (Except for their institutions, personally, of course.)

     

    Great point.

    Border/entry control is essential not just for institutions, countries and universities but for pretty much any distinct, sustainable system.

    Look at the foundation of all life, the humble cell. Its cell membrane separates the cell from everything else, and controls what enters (nutrients) and exits (waste) the cell.

    Dissolve the cell membrane and the cell dies.

    Dissolve admissions criteria and the university dies.

    Dissolve the border and the country dies.

    Our Israeli friends are pretty clued in on this.

    You must not only implement border control for yourself, you must deny it to your enemies.

    Our [Jewish] friends are pretty clued in on this.

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  122. Pericles says:
    @TheBoom
    The parks department had to take the doors off the stalls at a famous rest stop on 280 in silicon valley. Apparently, homosexuals weren't stopping there to rest

    The parks department had to take the doors off the stalls at a famous rest stop on 280 in silicon valley.

    Makes me wonder about the restrooms at Google, and Tim Cook’s executive suite.

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    Isn't that the *only* rest stop on 280? With the statue of Father Junipero Serra keeping a watchful eye on the congregants?
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  123. Bitfu says:

    This book –I’m Still Here by Austin Channing Brown–is climbing the charts at Amazon.

    [Click on the pic.twitter link for some amazing prose on 'whites being nice']

    While letting people camp out, Schultz also needs to make sure his baristas are not nice. Don’t be rude; don’t be nice. Don’t make eye contact,and only speak when spoken to. If the POC decides not to pay, that’s OK too…because coffee reparations.

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  124. OFF TOPIC

    President Trump must smash the treasonous rats in the Deep State. Former FBI director James Comey and former CIA director John Brennan must be brought to justice for their crimes and transgressions against the American people and the rule of law.

    Comey and Brennan are two evil baby boomer rats who do the bidding of the evil globalizers attacking the American people. Comey and Brennan act as Deep State stooges for the evil globalizers who pull the strings on all the puppet politicians in the United States.

    Let us not forget the ancestral grudge that some Irish people such as Brennan and Comey hold against the British Protestant settlers and founders of the United States of America. It must never be forgotten that some Leprechaun bastards hate the British Protestants that are the true ancestral core of the United States. Obama, the nasty anti-White mulatto who set Brennan and Comey against the American people, is another one of these horrible scoundrels who hates the British Protestants who started and formed the United States of America.

    Sailer goes on and on about how his theory that Obama’s mama was some kind of Deep State operative doing Third World work for the Deep State slobs. Well, who doesn’t know that the Deep State slobs have been working behind the scenes to attack and destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the United States? Who doesn’t know that evil WASP treasonites in the American Empire’s Deep State have used their positions as government workers to push globalization, mass immigration, transnationalism and multiculturalism?

    It is a battle between patriotic Americans of British Protestant background against evil, treasonous Deep State British Protestants. The evil British Protestant use treasonous Leprechauns such as Comey and Brennan to do their dirty work. Is there some moron out there who doesn’t see the significance of both Brennan and Comey being New York City area Leprechaun baby boomer globalizer bastards?

    BACK TO BLOOD

    President Trump implicitly appealed to patriotic British Protestants, German Americans and other voters of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States to win the presidency. Obama and Hillary Clinton appealed to treasonous White voters who work for the government or who benefit from globalization and monetary extremism.

    President Trump should fire every government worker scoundrel who is protecting Deep State scum such as Brennan and Comey. Trump has over 60 million Americans who voted for him. Trump should immediately start forming an American People’s Army to defeat and crush the evil treasonous scum in the Deep State of the American Empire.

    God Bless America And To Prison With Deep State Treasonites Comey And Brennan!

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    Oh, if Trump gets a special counsel to investigate Brennan's tampering in Obama's passport file prior to Obama appointing him director of the CIA and prior to the primary witness being murdered, I'll buy a round for the whole blog.
    , @Hibernian
    Ronald Reagan, Al Haig, and Bill Buckley were half Leperchauns. Alger Hiss was an offspring of your beloved ancestral core.
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  125. Bitfu says:

    In other news, a principal at a high school in Philadelphia –the city where the Declaration of Independence was signed–had to apologize for putting the following on the school’s prom tickets:

    ‘Let’s Party Like It’s 1776′

    More here:

    CHERRY HILL – The principal of Cherry Hill High School East has apologized for “insensitive” language on tickets for the upcoming senior prom.

    The tickets urged students to “party like it’s 1776” during the event at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia.

    But that prompted complaints from students who noted “not all communities can celebrate what life was like in 1776,” Principal Dennis Perry said in a letter to the community Friday.

    “I am writing to apologize for the hurt feelings this reference caused for members of our school family,” wrote Perry.

    “I especially apologize to our African American students, who I have let down by not initially recognizing the inappropriateness of this wording,” he added.

    Perry said all prom-goers will receive commemorative tickets without the offensive language and vowed the school will make changes “to produce well thought out, appropriate communications.”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/20/new-jersey-principal-apologizes-prom-tickets/626989002/

    We need a Turing Test 2.0–Instead of distinguishing between machine and human, we need to start distinguishing between parody and non-parody.

    If I took this Turing Test 2.0 on whether the hurt feeling associated with ‘Let’s Party Like It’s 1776!’ was a parody or not—I would fail. I would fail miserably.

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    Nitpick: Cherry Hill is not part of Philadelphia and isn't even in Pennsylvania. It is on the right side of the Delaware.

    The high school in question is...

    62% white
    22% Asian
    6% black
    6% Latino

    As offended as some people are pretending to be, I'm sure if there was a senior trip to see Hamilton it would be packed.
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  126. OFF TOPIC

    President Trump Must Destroy The Treasonous Deep State:

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  127. OFF TOPIC

    President Trump Must Bring Evil Treasonite Barack Obama To Justice!

    President Trump must declare total war on all enemies of the American people.

    President Trump must bring to justice Barack Obama, Loretta Lynch, Air Force Asshole Jimmy Clapper, John “Kerry” Kohn and all the rest of the Deep State bastards who have been attacking the United States and the American people.

    President Trump must defend the United States against all enemies:

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  128. Svigor says:
    @Truth

    Yet … there must be an all-black string quartet or orchestra, right? They could sign a lucrative contract to be #Starbucks’ exclusive Inclusive purveyor of bum-repellent great music.

    Quick search online … Yes, there is!
     
    Just a quick word of concern/obserservation here, Steve-O: You are rapidly approaching that line of age/hubris-related, silk sheet, self-parody that old entertainers ridicule as young people, and almost invariably assume, before kitchy, but well-compensated, irrelevance. If you are unsure of what I am referring, watch some clips of William Shatner toward the end of the TJ Hooker run, or Al Pacino in Heat... Or listen for Dylan on a Traveling Wilburys album.

    Yeah but you think every White woman you see is a man. Your warnings are endorsements.

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    Well no, Old Sport, and I have explained this to you a few times, but hey, it is you.

    I do not think every white woman that I see is a man, I think that (approximately %95) of the women that you see on TV or in movies are men. Eunuchs, to be more precise. I totally disregarded color because the ratio is the same across all races, nations and media outlets. You brought up color because, well, as Admiral Sailer would say himself; "when all you have is a hammer..."
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  129. Svigor says:

    Some free advice from Clinton’s 2008 chief political strategist and pollster:

    http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/388549-stopping-robert-mueller-to-protect-us-all

    Ewps.

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  130. Jack D says:
    @Hans Tholstrup
    Amusing, Steve. :)
    Incidentally, I had to check my stereotypes when my wife and I went for a cruise on the Carnival Spirit last year. The music at afternoon tea time was provided by a a double bass and viola - played by two black musicians who were extremely competent.
    Maybe Howard should give 'em a call...

    Musical talent is one item that is not as closely tied to IQ as most other cognitive skills. Although most blacks are not interested in playing classical music any more than they are interested in listening to it (in Philadelphia, a 50% black city, you can usually count the # of blacks at classical music concerts on the fingers of one hand), when they put their mind to it they can be very good at it.

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    I thought the black eighteen year-old who played the cello at Saturday’s royal wedding was very impressive. I think he won some sort of competition to gain the honor. I don’t know whether the competition was color blind.
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  131. OFF TOPIC

    Barry Halpern was a famed collector of sports memorabilia. Halper or Halpern? I assume he was Jewish. Collecting sports memorabilia seems harmless to me. I like sports as much as the next person.

    Stefan Halper, however, is a Deep State stooge who has been attacking the American nation for decades with duplicity and hate in his heart. Is Stefan Halper a complete and total Jew? This Deep State stuff is getting worse and worse. What the hell is going on in this country?

    This guy Stefan Halper might be the shadiest shyster that Satan ever spawned. Dammit to hell, things are evil and treasonous at the top of the American Empire.

    Trumpy needs to clean out the Deep State treasonites now!

    Sneaky bastards everywhere and the Brit Deep State is in on it!

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  132. Mr. Anon says:
    @Truth

    Yet … there must be an all-black string quartet or orchestra, right? They could sign a lucrative contract to be #Starbucks’ exclusive Inclusive purveyor of bum-repellent great music.

    Quick search online … Yes, there is!
     
    Just a quick word of concern/obserservation here, Steve-O: You are rapidly approaching that line of age/hubris-related, silk sheet, self-parody that old entertainers ridicule as young people, and almost invariably assume, before kitchy, but well-compensated, irrelevance. If you are unsure of what I am referring, watch some clips of William Shatner toward the end of the TJ Hooker run, or Al Pacino in Heat... Or listen for Dylan on a Traveling Wilburys album.

    Just a quick word of concern/obserservation here, Steve-O

    Yeah, I’m sure you’re really concerned.

    Concern-trolling is not concern. And it’s especially funny coming from you, given that edged over into pardoy from your very first post here, Mr. Flat-Earther.

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  133. Mr. Anon says:
    @TheBoom
    The parks department had to take the doors off the stalls at a famous rest stop on 280 in silicon valley. Apparently, homosexuals weren't stopping there to rest

    The parks department had to take the doors off the stalls at a famous rest stop on 280 in silicon valley. Apparently, homosexuals weren’t stopping there to rest.

    The argument always used to be that homosexuals had no other outlet, repressed as they were and all. But nobody could claim that they are repressed now, and certainly not in the Bay Area. Evidently, anonymous bathroom sodomy is just part of the gay lifestyle. No doubt there will soon be a crusade for its legalization, and if you object to it, then YOU are the problem.

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  134. Jack D says:
    @Lot
    The last time I saw a bum in a SF starbucks he put a $1 single banana and two glass bottles of fancy $4.50 iced teas on the counter. He didn't have enough for both bottles, but still got the one.

    It was then I realized I was more of a cheapskate than a smelly bum. I'd never pay $4.50 for a bottle of ice tea. I really should also just start taking dollar store caffeine pills in the morning rather than $3 for a giant starbucks, but I like the taste.

    You can make better coffee at home than what Starbucks gives you and it costs maybe 25 cents/cup to make, if that.

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    A voice of sanity Jack's is, as usual.
    I do the same: grind my beans, brew them the Italian way, and nurse my (large) cup over an hour or so.
    Cold coffee is delicious (if it is any good to begin with that is).
    And no pesky bums, or unwelcome muzak either.
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  135. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anon
    Every Nordstrom’s I’ve been to has a black man playing classical piano.

    Every Nordstrom’s I’ve been to has a black man playing classical piano.

    And you know what? It is the SAME black man at every one.

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  136. Jack D says:
    @Jim Christian
    Play it backwards and you get rap. Isn't that curious?

    Does that mean if you play rap backwards you get classical music?

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  137. eD says:

    I’ve seem public restrooms work, in bus stations in Brazil, and the key is to have an attendant monitor things. Its bizarre that Americans can’t grasp this, but then the whole ideal of closing mental health institutions and dumping their patients on the streets, which mostly created the homeless problem in the US and UK in the first place, was also bizarre.

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    I can recall riding the crowded train all night in Italy in 1980 and getting to Mussolini's giant marble Milan train station at dawn. You go in the men's room and for about a quarter you give the lady attendant you got your own 100 square foot marble stall. It was great.
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  138. David says:

    A decade ago at any rate, restrooms for customers only in Manhattan was a must due to drug users. However this plays out in malls and small towns, in NYC, the Starbucks bathrooms will be monopolized by heroin addicts.

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  139. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Unless you have a homeless problem in your city you have no idea how vile public bathrooms can become.
     
    The solution to this is for a staff member to check the toilet every hour or half hour and sign off it. If there is a problem, fix it immediately. This is where people suddenly want to have Mexican illegals to hire, when normal staff have to clean bathrooms. In Japan there are checklists in toilets signed off with personal stamps, and the toilet paper is folded into a point to prove that a staff member had just been in the room.

    But if you really monitor it and check the CCTV after every problem, and ban people who have caused problems, and key the bathroom with a key attached to something big, and set a timer every time someone uses the toilet, and knock on the door when they exceed the time, and do that in a normal volume voice so people around hear it and look at the toilet user when he or she exits, and so on, you will have a nice toilet.

    This is Broken Windows 101.

    It also helps to put cute little decorations in the bathroom, dried flowers, lavender scented items, stuff like that, buy it in bulk from Daiso or the Dollar Store. Like classical music, the impression that there is some woman decorating and taking care of the toilet has an effect on scumbags.

    One trick might be to hire actors, some dressed up as homeless people, and photograph them exiting and entering the toilet. Make a sort of ten-most-wanted list of people on some sheets of paper with the photos and a titles of May Not Use Toilet, perhaps with some fake dates and the like, a couple with notations of Call Police. Post them on the wall next to the key, visible but in a way that they don't seem to be deliberately visible.

    I don’t see how that will work in a coffee place. For one thing, it’s against health regulations to have clerks running back and forth between cleaning bathrooms and serving food and drink.

    Then too, who has the time especially in morning rush and at lunch when people are lined up waiting.

    For your thing to work a janitor would have to be hired to be bathroom monitor.

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    A joke meant seriously: Howie Deutsch can totally afford to hire a water closet technician (bathroomista?) for every Stabruck's, but will not do so.
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  140. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    Unless you have a homeless problem in your city you have no idea how vile public bathrooms can become.
     
    The solution to this is for a staff member to check the toilet every hour or half hour and sign off it. If there is a problem, fix it immediately. This is where people suddenly want to have Mexican illegals to hire, when normal staff have to clean bathrooms. In Japan there are checklists in toilets signed off with personal stamps, and the toilet paper is folded into a point to prove that a staff member had just been in the room.

    But if you really monitor it and check the CCTV after every problem, and ban people who have caused problems, and key the bathroom with a key attached to something big, and set a timer every time someone uses the toilet, and knock on the door when they exceed the time, and do that in a normal volume voice so people around hear it and look at the toilet user when he or she exits, and so on, you will have a nice toilet.

    This is Broken Windows 101.

    It also helps to put cute little decorations in the bathroom, dried flowers, lavender scented items, stuff like that, buy it in bulk from Daiso or the Dollar Store. Like classical music, the impression that there is some woman decorating and taking care of the toilet has an effect on scumbags.

    One trick might be to hire actors, some dressed up as homeless people, and photograph them exiting and entering the toilet. Make a sort of ten-most-wanted list of people on some sheets of paper with the photos and a titles of May Not Use Toilet, perhaps with some fake dates and the like, a couple with notations of Call Police. Post them on the wall next to the key, visible but in a way that they don't seem to be deliberately visible.

    Better not be any black people in those photos. Also not anyone who appears to be mentally ill. Etc.

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  141. JimB says:
    @Anon

    Unless you have a homeless problem in your city you have no idea how vile public bathrooms can become.
     
    The solution to this is for a staff member to check the toilet every hour or half hour and sign off it. If there is a problem, fix it immediately. This is where people suddenly want to have Mexican illegals to hire, when normal staff have to clean bathrooms. In Japan there are checklists in toilets signed off with personal stamps, and the toilet paper is folded into a point to prove that a staff member had just been in the room.

    But if you really monitor it and check the CCTV after every problem, and ban people who have caused problems, and key the bathroom with a key attached to something big, and set a timer every time someone uses the toilet, and knock on the door when they exceed the time, and do that in a normal volume voice so people around hear it and look at the toilet user when he or she exits, and so on, you will have a nice toilet.

    This is Broken Windows 101.

    It also helps to put cute little decorations in the bathroom, dried flowers, lavender scented items, stuff like that, buy it in bulk from Daiso or the Dollar Store. Like classical music, the impression that there is some woman decorating and taking care of the toilet has an effect on scumbags.

    One trick might be to hire actors, some dressed up as homeless people, and photograph them exiting and entering the toilet. Make a sort of ten-most-wanted list of people on some sheets of paper with the photos and a titles of May Not Use Toilet, perhaps with some fake dates and the like, a couple with notations of Call Police. Post them on the wall next to the key, visible but in a way that they don't seem to be deliberately visible.

    Like Pig Pen, homeless people seem to travel about enveloped by their own noxious cloud. If you are compelled to let them use your facilities it will smell like them after a single use even if you have a strong ventilation system. The only thing that works are bathrooms that can self steam clean. Some gas stations on freeways in remote areas install then. Literally the entire bathroom flushes, not just the toilet.

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  142. I’m starting to think the Philadelphia incident was an act of fourth-generation business warfare by a competing coffee chain.

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  143. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    I've been to one. They had single coffees for up to $12 and $6 cups of artisanal vanilla froyo.

    The blue bottle chain in SF has $4.25 small cold brew coffee that tastes like magic. They refused to put sweet n low in it, just not kept on the premises, but they did have organic whole milk.

    Both of the last two times I saw light green eyed Mexicans they were hipster baristas. In Mexico, not here.

    SF starbucks are also ready for the city's disposable straw ban, to take effect in a few months. The new lids are like toddler sippy-cups and work well.

    I hate to be a witch , but what exactly is organic milk? My brother’s a diary farmer in Western Marin. So I’m very familiar with milk production.

    The cows graze on natural grass all day. They come home at 4/30 and eat hay till they are turned out in the morning.

    Some of the hay comes from my brothers fields, some from his neighbors. They do have some calcium vitamin pellets and sometimes oats for the protein.

    Organic food is just food labeled organic and sold to social climbers who like showing off that they can pay a big markup that the proles and peons can’t afford

    It’s like driving a Mercedes instead of a Toyata only cheaper

    Sorry, liberal social climbing pretensions are one of my pet peeves.

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    Not sure about WI, but in CA organic milk tastes far better. I've confirmed this in blind taste tastes. I picked out three types, regular, "organic valley" big brand and a fancy brand in a glass bottle you have to pay $2 deposit on and return. Huge gap between the first two, and the glass bottle brand was slightly better than organic valley.

    Gave the same test to a friend who rates them identically.
    , @Svigor
    I'd guess that "organic" milk comes from cows that get no artificial inputs, or as few artificial inputs as possible; hormones, steroids, GMO feed, etc. Maybe free-range, too; aren't some dairy cows kept in pens 24/7?
    , @Indy500Winner
    I am curious about the label "organic" for milk as well.

    The two things I would think makes milk organic are:

    a) use of antibiotics, or lack thereof
    b) keeping the cows in pens during the day and feedings them from a trough

    Are either of these part of normal dairy faming?
    , @res

    what exactly is organic milk?
     
    Here is one example: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/13/business/la-fi-dairy13-2010feb13

    Current rules require milk marketed as organic to come from cows whose feed was grown without chemical fertilizers, pesticides or genetically modified seeds. Herds can't be treated with hormones or antibiotics.
    The new rules seek to close loopholes that had allowed some of the country's largest feedlots to sell their milk as organic, even though their herds rarely grazed in fields. Bovines are natural grazers that have been known to contract digestive ailments from grain. Farmers will have to ensure that at least 30% of their cows' diet comes from pasture grass during the mandatory grazing season.
     
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  144. anonymous[246] • Disclaimer says:

    iSteve

    Totally off topic but–any thoughts on the SCOTUS sports betting decision?

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  145. Lot says:
    @Anon
    I hate to be a witch , but what exactly is organic milk? My brother’s a diary farmer in Western Marin. So I’m very familiar with milk production.

    The cows graze on natural grass all day. They come home at 4/30 and eat hay till they are turned out in the morning.

    Some of the hay comes from my brothers fields, some from his neighbors. They do have some calcium vitamin pellets and sometimes oats for the protein.

    Organic food is just food labeled organic and sold to social climbers who like showing off that they can pay a big markup that the proles and peons can’t afford

    It’s like driving a Mercedes instead of a Toyata only cheaper

    Sorry, liberal social climbing pretensions are one of my pet peeves.

    Not sure about WI, but in CA organic milk tastes far better. I’ve confirmed this in blind taste tastes. I picked out three types, regular, “organic valley” big brand and a fancy brand in a glass bottle you have to pay $2 deposit on and return. Huge gap between the first two, and the glass bottle brand was slightly better than organic valley.

    Gave the same test to a friend who rates them identically.

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  146. Svigor says:
    @Anon
    I hate to be a witch , but what exactly is organic milk? My brother’s a diary farmer in Western Marin. So I’m very familiar with milk production.

    The cows graze on natural grass all day. They come home at 4/30 and eat hay till they are turned out in the morning.

    Some of the hay comes from my brothers fields, some from his neighbors. They do have some calcium vitamin pellets and sometimes oats for the protein.

    Organic food is just food labeled organic and sold to social climbers who like showing off that they can pay a big markup that the proles and peons can’t afford

    It’s like driving a Mercedes instead of a Toyata only cheaper

    Sorry, liberal social climbing pretensions are one of my pet peeves.

    I’d guess that “organic” milk comes from cows that get no artificial inputs, or as few artificial inputs as possible; hormones, steroids, GMO feed, etc. Maybe free-range, too; aren’t some dairy cows kept in pens 24/7?

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  147. @Anon
    But Starbucks isn’t a restaurant is it????? It serves coffee tea and packaged snacks. So why mention real restaurants

    Labor??? 2 large Starbucks drinks cover the hourly wage of a clerk . 1 more covers the cost of SSA WCOMP etc. how many drinks does a Starbucks clerk make in an hour? A lot more than 3

    Unlike a real restaurant Starbucks doesn’t need to wash dishes need a grease trap and get it cleaned or the expense of fresh food and a kitchen with staff and waiters

    It can set up in any store without the hassle involved in real kitchen Why did you compare it to a real restaurant any way?

    Your comment was just ridiculous

    “Your comment was just ridiculous”

    Calm down dude, no need to be an a**hole.

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  148. @Anonymous


    Coffee-houses work great in a high trust society, yes you have someone conducting their business during the day on one cup of coffee, but with some gentle reminders he makes way for the family coming in, or he brings in his business associates next time and they all order lunch and it all works out somehow. If everyone is basically at war all the time with people in the wrong cultural/ ethnic group this can never work. If you have a store at all you sell your items from behind bullet proof glass, silently. And not incidentally, one clue that the USA is now a low trust society is that you rarely see customers talk to each other in a Starbucks. In past centuries, coffee houses is where you went for conversation (you went to taverns to hook up with prostitutes).
     
    Coffee houses were the breeding ground of the old Bolshevik left and of the folk music scare. The Waiting for Guffman crew did a great job of illustrating this era with the film A Mighty Wind.

    Coffee houses were the breeding ground of the old Bolshevik left and of the folk music scare.

    Haha! on the “scare”. I’m not afeared of that folk music myself, unless Mama Cass were to threaten to sit on me – Bolsheviks, yeah that’s another story.

    I agree with your “breeding ground” comment in general though. Here are my thoughts on Starbucks vs. the Viennese Kaffeehaus. vis a vis the breeding of commies/socialists. BTW, I Iearned how to say “vis a vis” at a coffee shop (not sure that I learned how to spell it!)

    BTW, you just came up with a new name for a new coffee shop I would like to open* in the Fremont neighborhood of Seattle – “The Breeding Grounds”! Man, you must be an MBAnonymous.

    * If I weren’t so lazy and were a Communist, that is.

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    The Viennese Kaffeehaus is one of Western Civilisation's most sublime creations, and in no way necessarily Left-wing (after all, I use them regularly when in that delightful city).
    But they are not coffee shops; one doesn't enter to look for coffee to buy and take home, but for a table to sit at for hours, whiling away the morning by reading the usually superb collection of newspapers, not necessarily all in German. These however are the ones I prefer, particularly the Right-wing populist Krone-Zeitung.
    Of course one must, as in all things, be discriminatory: all too many are now tourist traps. Take the trouble to go where the locals go and you will not be disappointed.
    The one I prefer is just down the street from the Kapuzinergruft (where the Habsburgs are buried), on a corner, with a small park opposite. If anything it is shabby; certainly down-at-heel. But the coffee is decent, a nice glass of cool water always comes with it, and no one will ever try to hurry you up.
    Prince Schwarzenberg was at the next table last time I was there; we nodded, having been at the same event the evening before. But anything more would have been impolite: the Kaffeehaus is not for conversation, but for quiet repose and reflection.
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  149. Brutusale says:

    Judging by the 119 comments thus far, nobody spends much time at Starbucks.

    Wifi is free. No password is necessary. No purchase has ever been necessary. If you’re part of the Apple cult you may have trouble logging on; 100% of people asking me for wifi help have been Apple users. I maintain that it’s because Google supplies the wifi and they like fucking with Apple users.

    Food is a sideline there. Half the people walking into the Starbucks I frequent have bagels from the place across the street, which corporate policy is fine with. Speaking of food, shop managers have told me that the most profitable item on the menu is the bananas, which retail for $1.25.

    It’s been the downtown public restroom since forever. Nobody seems to have a problem with that. The only issue that ever arose was when a kid ODed in the Starbucks men’s room. The fire dept. EMTs broke the lock, hit the kid with Narcan and wheeled him away. By the time the city pols and real estate people were done, though, the OD appeared in the police report as a drunk patron.

    The urban shops obviously have to hew to a harder line with the vagrants, but corporate policy is already beginning to deal with it. Starbucks locations undergo renovations every 5-6 years. The 2 Starbucks nearest me have both been redone with fewer and less comfortable seats as well as higher ceilings, which sometimes makes it hard to hear when it’s crowded. The “comfy” chairs look and feel like they were purchased from a 1963 IKEA catalogue. The regular chairs were replaced with stools. Most importantly, the entire “laptop” counter has been replaced by the mobile order staging section, which is the ultimate goal: order by phone app, come pick up your drink, and leave without having any human interaction at all. Remember, the endgame for all fast food/drink stores is automated ordering and preparation, with two guys out back filling the ingredient hoppers.

    Starbucks doesn’t put anyone out of business. I’ve read research studies (probably financed by Starbucks) saying that a Starbucks opening up in town raises the profile of coffee and helps all the coffee shops in the area. I just know that my small city of 31,000 has a Starbucks, three Dunkin’ Donuts, one Honey Dew (small MA chain) and three private coffee shops, as well as all the gas stations with $1 coffee that seem to be everywhere now. All have been in business for 5+ years and all seem to be thriving.

    Because Starbucks is a monolithic corporation, I have no qualms about using their own system against them. I plan my day on my laptop there while drinking my $2.30 coffee and free refills as long as I’m there. I could do the same thing at one of the the local Dunks, but their cheesy decor, non-native staff and capitalist refill policy precludes it. Private shops need the turnover and the space, so their policy discourages loitering and gratis refills, which I fully understand. I’m Starbucks by default. At the extreme end of this same attitude are the Starbucks patrons who, after spending $6 for a coffee drink, feel free to steal the newspapers and sugar/fake sugar with impunity. I would estimate that 40% of the raw sugar at Starbucks doesn’t go into coffee, but into pockets and purses.

    As some have mentioned, this works in a high-trust culture, but not in the current hybrid we have now. The death of the Starbucks model will not be troubles with blacks, but Asians occupying 85% of your seats, using the wifi and drinking bottles of tea from somewhere else. And taking anything not nailed down.

    BTW Steve, Schultzie hasn’t been CEO since April of last year.

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    ... the idea of opening the door of a Starbucks latrine makes me gag ... except at ultra discreet Starbucks Secrete in central London where the latrine air is scented with the sweet smell of coffee flowers ...
    , @Old Palo Altan
    When visiting my oldest friends in either of their houses (St. Helena and Holmby Hills) I always go out early to buy the morning's coffee and pastries. The place I drive to in LA doesn't even have one table: people buy and leave.
    In St. Helena there are two excellent places; I alternate between them. There are tables in both; curiously in the shop on Main street, those who use these are tourists; in the one just off it, they are always locals. In both cases I buy and then walk back to the house (St. Helena is small!), where we proceed to enjoy my largesse on the back terrace overlooking the Tuscan garden and playful fountain. On a good day, it's as though we had never moved on from the '5os.

    By the way, there is not one Starbucks in all of St. Helena.

    , @Jack D
    It's important to understand that before the Starbucks revival (there were others - Peets, etc.) coffee consumption had been declining in America for 50 years. Coffee in most places was watery and either Robusta beans - these used to come from Brazil but nowadays Vietnam (taste like burned rubber but have a caffeine kick - Folgers, Maxwell House) or low grade, lightly roasted Arabica (Dunkin Donuts, 8 O'clock - lightly roasted beans lose less weight, increase your yield). It was an industry in a death spiral - the industry produced a degraded product - people bought less of it, lowering industry profits so then they would degrade the product some more (not to mention that a 1 lb. bag/can of coffee now weighs 12 oz or less) and then people would buy even less. Starbucks really pulled the whole industry out of this tailspin even if they did it by overroasting their beans (Charbucks).

    Once upon a time, coffee was the default beverage in America (except maybe in the Deep South where Coca Cola was preferred because of the hot climate). People drank it with their meals, the way they drink Coke now. Children drank it (there's no health reason why they shouldn't - the idea that is bad for children was Fake News spread by Coca Cola - I kid you not). Even now coffee consumption levels are way below what they were in the old days. Coke's marketing was the best in the world and they got the whole country to switch to Coke from coffee.
    , @ScarletNumber

    The 2 Starbucks nearest me have both been redone with fewer and less comfortable seats
     
    Barnes & Noble has also done this.
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  150. ET says:

    But 7/11 which plays classical music, plays it outside. The bums don’t hang out IN the store. Customers might not like the music either.

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  151. anon[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Starbucks don't have kitchens. No health department compliance. They sell a shitload of food (prepared elsewhere) for no kitchen. In some suburban stores, drive through is over 50% of revenue.

    My guess is that Starbucks will experience minimal financial consequences from this. However, it could signal peak Starbucks. Chipotle was derailed by its food poisoning incident.

    Revenues in Q2 totaled a record $6 billion, up 14% over last year, driven by comp increases of 2% globally and in the U.S. and 4% in China. Importantly, we saw comps accelerate in both the U.S. and China throughout the quarter, giving us confidence in both our full year and long-term guidance. At the same time, we opened nearly 500 new Starbucks stores globally in the quarter, and now operate over 28,000 stores in 76 countries, with our newest class of stores continuing to deliver best-in-class operating and financial performance and returns. And our record Q2 non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.53 represents an increase of 18% over last year.

     

    This was their 1Q conference call. 2% comps isn't great but it hit their guidance.

    As a stock or business, I don’t have a dog in the hunt. As a citizen, their bloviating virtue signaling is disgusting and perversely racist. Alas, the business will probably shrug it off.

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    Meh, he’s morally retarded. The mentally retarded don’t disgust me - why should he?
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  152. wren says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    Not all, but they are anachronisms staffed and frequented by older people. Anyway, apparently it was Dothour, not Starbucks, that killed the independent coffee house scene.

    Sad!

    I enjoyed those places, and their nice breakfast sets or afternoon coffee.

    Still, in my book anyway, Doutor beats Starbucks.

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  153. wren says:
    @Charles Pewitt
    OFF TOPIC

    President Trump must smash the treasonous rats in the Deep State. Former FBI director James Comey and former CIA director John Brennan must be brought to justice for their crimes and transgressions against the American people and the rule of law.

    Comey and Brennan are two evil baby boomer rats who do the bidding of the evil globalizers attacking the American people. Comey and Brennan act as Deep State stooges for the evil globalizers who pull the strings on all the puppet politicians in the United States.

    Let us not forget the ancestral grudge that some Irish people such as Brennan and Comey hold against the British Protestant settlers and founders of the United States of America. It must never be forgotten that some Leprechaun bastards hate the British Protestants that are the true ancestral core of the United States. Obama, the nasty anti-White mulatto who set Brennan and Comey against the American people, is another one of these horrible scoundrels who hates the British Protestants who started and formed the United States of America.

    Sailer goes on and on about how his theory that Obama's mama was some kind of Deep State operative doing Third World work for the Deep State slobs. Well, who doesn't know that the Deep State slobs have been working behind the scenes to attack and destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the United States? Who doesn't know that evil WASP treasonites in the American Empire's Deep State have used their positions as government workers to push globalization, mass immigration, transnationalism and multiculturalism?

    It is a battle between patriotic Americans of British Protestant background against evil, treasonous Deep State British Protestants. The evil British Protestant use treasonous Leprechauns such as Comey and Brennan to do their dirty work. Is there some moron out there who doesn't see the significance of both Brennan and Comey being New York City area Leprechaun baby boomer globalizer bastards?

    BACK TO BLOOD

    President Trump implicitly appealed to patriotic British Protestants, German Americans and other voters of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States to win the presidency. Obama and Hillary Clinton appealed to treasonous White voters who work for the government or who benefit from globalization and monetary extremism.

    President Trump should fire every government worker scoundrel who is protecting Deep State scum such as Brennan and Comey. Trump has over 60 million Americans who voted for him. Trump should immediately start forming an American People's Army to defeat and crush the evil treasonous scum in the Deep State of the American Empire.

    God Bless America And To Prison With Deep State Treasonites Comey And Brennan!

    Oh, if Trump gets a special counsel to investigate Brennan’s tampering in Obama’s passport file prior to Obama appointing him director of the CIA and prior to the primary witness being murdered, I’ll buy a round for the whole blog.

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  154. @Dr. Doom
    The Diversity Initiative at the Innsmouth Cafe by: H.R. Diversity Manager

    After the Fish Police had announced that loitering was no longer a crime, the uneasy atmosphere slowing creeped in like a horny camel in a tent full of gypsies. The duck-faced customers could feel a tremble go down their spineless backs as the staccato of drums and bullets shattered the mind numbing ease of bad poetry and gothic porn poses. Their sociological imagination turned from blaming Bush and Reagan and began to imagine bad schools and diminished funding for pretentious social issues. The coffee seemed to be like weak tea cut with angry spittle and the cat's urine at the childless harridan's feces soaked apartment.
    The Cthonian customer base began to make homemade frappacinos, with store bought bottles and an assortment of flavored liquor. Gone was the idle atmosphere of decay and societal stasis so familiar to the Deep Ones, cultured in a petri dish of decadent and whorish profligacy. Even the squid ink of octopus faced columnists could not hide the discontent that seeped into the Innsmouth Cafe like the smell of a wet dog on an old sofa. "Its a trap!", said one columnist, but a blue haired feminist shot him down like an unemployed old man at a college party full of young girls and hot frat guys.
    The dull bland atmosphere was no longer as familiar as the sagging boobs of the strippers at the nudey bars, and the easy chatter that always accompanies people who parrot things more redundantly than South American Pet Birds was replaced by loud yells, sports on video screens and the coffee smells drowned out by hot wings and the smell of urine normally associated with public transportation.
    The Fish Police didn't care. They were at a Donut House. The bad poets, duck-faced spineless jellyfish and the unholy horrors of hook-ups done while drunk could not face the Truth. The worm had turned. It tasted like the bitter wine of a cheap liquor store with no refrigeration run by people who had run it as a front for a gang. The horrible realization had dawned and then was swallowed quickly, like a piece of cake by a fat women at weight watchers before the meeting. Gone was the sociological imaginings of perpetual students. Replaced not by new chatter, but the shattering of faces of black athletes as the sirens sang the song of Urban Decay.
    It had taken eons for the decay to set in, but after less than a year, the Innsmouth Cafe had more nails than a habitat for humanity house built entirely by women with semi-automatic nailguns. Somewhere, the caffeine keeps sociology students up all night. Gibbering their mindless memes like an idiot in a Federal Bureaucracy trying to not do his job. The Frogs may croak. The cows may know. The boobs still sag openly at the nudey bars. The inclusion may still happen. Like a fox in a henhouse owned by a woman who multitasks so much she cannot keep a friend for a whole year. The gambrel roofs may leak. The government may not work. The coffee smells, but no one notices it. The Fat Lady had sung, but no one saw the Opera.

    In the Land of the Blind, they always sing the Blues...

    This comment reads like a work of hard-boiled literature. But it does not stand up to literary analysis. For one thing, why would a liquor store need refrigeration? “It tasted like bitter wine” would be more succinct (but less Mickey Spillane-like) than “It tasted like the bitter wine of a cheap liquor store with no refrigeration run by people who had run it as a front for a gang.” And who are the Fish Police? The police force of Charles Murray’s fictional Fishtown?

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  155. @Anon
    I hate to be a witch , but what exactly is organic milk? My brother’s a diary farmer in Western Marin. So I’m very familiar with milk production.

    The cows graze on natural grass all day. They come home at 4/30 and eat hay till they are turned out in the morning.

    Some of the hay comes from my brothers fields, some from his neighbors. They do have some calcium vitamin pellets and sometimes oats for the protein.

    Organic food is just food labeled organic and sold to social climbers who like showing off that they can pay a big markup that the proles and peons can’t afford

    It’s like driving a Mercedes instead of a Toyata only cheaper

    Sorry, liberal social climbing pretensions are one of my pet peeves.

    I am curious about the label “organic” for milk as well.

    The two things I would think makes milk organic are:

    a) use of antibiotics, or lack thereof
    b) keeping the cows in pens during the day and feedings them from a trough

    Are either of these part of normal dairy faming?

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  156. Pat Boyle says:
    @Escher

    Starbucks could hire the all-black woman Marian Anderson String Quartet to provide 24/7 recorded classical music that homeless people and punks loitering with criminal intent just … can’t … stand.
     
    Per the law of unintended consequences, this will likely lead to claims that Beethoven, Brahms et al were black.

    Marian Anderson was famous for political reasons. She was not a very good singer. Nor was Paul Robeson.

    The really great black singers of serious music were Leontyne Price, Martina Arroyo, and Grace Bumbry. There are two very good black operatic tenors working today but there are far fewer black singers than one would expect. Blacks generally just don’t like serious music.

    Meanwhile there is a revolution in opera voices today from the East Asians. There are dozens of very fine Korean tenors whom you can hear of YouTube. There seems to be racial prejudice against Orientals appearing live on an opera stage.

    Blacks probably don’t like serious Western music because it often complex and employs large forces whereas virtually all black music is never performed by anything larger than a church choir. The best black music is often quite simple. For example the Harry Belafonte Calypso songs which have simple tunes and simple lyrics but are very catchy. There are no black composed operas, oratorios or cantatas or symphonies or concertos. (Some commenter here will dig up one no doubt, but you will never have heard of it).

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    Well, you're correct, somebody did. The famous black composer of ragtime, Scott Joplin, did author an opera entitled Treemonisha, whose theme was one of uplift for blacks through education.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treemonisha

    I suspect that its rediscovery and subsequent performances owed much to the interest in Scott Joplin's piano ragtime works going on at about that time. I am personally unfamiliar with it, but apparently it can be found at YouTube.

    So there ya go.

    JJ
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  157. @Moses
    Schultz is no dummy.

    You think he’s really going to let homeless camp out in his stores and frighten away all the GoodWhites?

    No.

    More likely he’ll give store managers the impossible double standard of maintaining clean, safe stores while also letting “anyone” camp out (at least in theory). The unwritten rule will be that anyone who causes a media blowup will be fired.

    I for one am looking forward to how this plays out.

    Hopefully, one of Starbucks competitors or all of them will do the opposite declaring that they are a bum free environment and let it be know that they are a safe space for normal law abiding patrons. This would simultaneously siphon off customers who are sick of being preached to over to the non-virtue signalling coffee shops and give them a competitive advantage because they do not have to carry the burden of the layabouts that are camping out. Better yet, advertise this. Once the public gets the impression that you will get AIDS or worse from a Starbucks toilet seat, we can sit back and watch their stock go down the proverbial toilet.

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  158. @International Jew
    What's going to kill Starbucks isn't the homeless, but the high school and college students who will camp out to do their homework.

    What’s going to kill Starbucks isn’t the homeless, but the high school and college students who will camp out to do their homework.

    To a large extent (probably with the exception of the very high volume stores) the shaggy types just lounging about in Starbucks doing homework of writing the great American novel is actually part of the charm to many (not to me, necessarily). These types are generally inoffensive if annoying, but nevertheless give the stores a certain energy.

    That’s entirely different than crazy/drunk/high bums reeking of bathroom smells “washing up” in the bathrooms and eyeing up soon-to-be leftover muffins and croissants, or aggro urban types BIX NOODing into their cell foams without buying anything.

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  159. Joe862 says:

    The main appeal of starbucks is to go get your coffee without having to interact with poor people in any way. The people working there are clearly not lower class and the people buying coffee there aren’t lower class either. Everywhere else you’re in line with guys in work boots and having your order taken by a Mexican.

    In my opinion Schultz is officially the most full of crap of anyone ever with this nonsense.

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  160. @CCZ
    “Reverend” Al has beat TD to the punch line!!

    Al Sharpton: Royal wedding shows white supremacy is ‘on its last breath'
    By Morgan Gstalter - 05/19/18 The Hill.com

    Rev. Al Sharpton said Saturday’s nuptials between the U.K.’s Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, a biracial American actress, show that white male supremacy is “on its last breath.”

    "When you got little white girls in Wales saying, 'I want to be like Meghan,' there's a shift worldwide that white male supremacy is on its last breath," Sharpton said.

    "When you have little white girls in Arkansas look up and say, 'I want to be beautiful and smart like Michelle Obama. I want to dress like the Obama girls (Sasha and Malia),' that's where that white supremacy is questioned,” Sharpton said. “White parents in their living room say, 'We've got to do something.' That's what Trump played on. 'We're losing control of our own children.’”

    Sharpton went on to say white supremacist groups are "losing their minds" over the royal wedding. “They're losing their minds because the world is passing away where they are the standard,” Sharpton said. “Where they decide what is beauty, where they decide what is of intellectual depth.”

     

    Prince Harry, the son of Prince Chuck,
    Found a “black girl” to marry and f—
    Whose skin isn’t inky,
    Nor hair coarse and kinky,
    Nor a– quite as wide as a truck.

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    LOL--literally.
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  161. OFF TOPIC

    Italy must exit the European Union and go back to the Lira. Italy must repudiate all debts denominated in euros.

    Once Italy exits the EU and goes back to the Lira, the EU will implode, the European Central Bank(ECB) will be destroyed and the euro will evaporate. Germany will get its fat Kraut ass pulverized when it goes back to the Deutsche Mark and nobody can afford German goods anymore.

    God Bless Alternative for Deutschland(AfD) And All German Patriots! Merkel Is A Baby Boomer Globalizer Rat. Germany Must Deport All Foreigners! Germany For Germans!

    Germany can then get a nuclear deterrent and politely ask the American Empire to vacate its soil. Italy will get a nuclear deterrent and suggest strongly that the American Empire leave its soil.

    England stayed with the Pound Sterling and has voted to leave the EU. Italy will be the final cleaving sword swing that kills the evil EU.

    GOD BLESS ITALY!

    Globalizer Paul Krugman Loves The Sovereignty-Sapping EU and ECB

    Paul Krugman Is A Baby Boomer Jew Globalizer — It’s True!

    Paul Krugman Pushes Globalization, Mass Immigration, Monetary Extremism And Transnationalism

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  162. @Jack D
    You can make better coffee at home than what Starbucks gives you and it costs maybe 25 cents/cup to make, if that.

    A voice of sanity Jack’s is, as usual.
    I do the same: grind my beans, brew them the Italian way, and nurse my (large) cup over an hour or so.
    Cold coffee is delicious (if it is any good to begin with that is).
    And no pesky bums, or unwelcome muzak either.

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  163. OT – it appears the new treasurer of the UK Conservative Party is an Israeli citizen.

    https://order-order.com/2018/05/21/new-tory-treasurer-director-of-7-companies-with-overdue-accounts/

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  164. Svigor says:

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/05/28/will-the-fervor-for-impeachment-start-a-democratic-civil-war

    Very TL;DR, but I really enjoyed (((Cohen’s))) “five points” of nothin’.

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  165. @J.Ross
    The New Leftist Trusts are all big enough that they can afford losses that would kill a smaller, less connected business.

    At some point, they’d made enough money.

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    I think they would "make" more money -- in the sense of creating wealth for a wider share of people -- if they were forced to decentralize. Going after Amazon et al like Proctor and Gamble is a win-win for everybody but the current Medici.
    With this and with sending the IG (instead of the police) after the proven Democrat illegal conduct in the election we are waiting for the bad guys to play nice.
    The first sign of Clinton's media consolidation in the nineties was that the radio went from playing good varied music to having one dull playlist across the dial. Lately I have been hearing multiple different stations pushing Amazon's Alexa spybot about as subtly as the Chinese government.
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  166. @anon
    As a stock or business, I don't have a dog in the hunt. As a citizen, their bloviating virtue signaling is disgusting and perversely racist. Alas, the business will probably shrug it off.

    Meh, he’s morally retarded. The mentally retarded don’t disgust me – why should he?

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  167. fitzGetty says:

    … as they say in England : “”” An Ace Latrine with a Caff Attached …””” .

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  168. HIGH LEVEL WHITEY SOUND

    Kronos Quartet — Shackleton Ice Journey — The Shackleton Project

    Good show, I saw it live. Loud recorded sound; excellent puppeteers. Like Norman Braman and Paul Singer controlling Marco Rubio. Shelly Adelson works the puppet strings pretty good too!

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  169. @AndrewR
    I wonder if they will kick people out of their stores for aggressive farting. I may test this question out. There are days when I produce more gas than a North Dakota well.

    Patriotic Americans should buy nothing at Starbucks but hang out there reading, surfing the Net, talking, whatever, alllllllllllllllllll day long — retired people, university students, and people who work at night will have to lead the charge during the daytime, while many of the rest of us can take over in the evenings.

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  170. @Achmed E. Newman

    Coffee houses were the breeding ground of the old Bolshevik left and of the folk music scare.
     
    Haha! on the "scare". I'm not afeared of that folk music myself, unless Mama Cass were to threaten to sit on me - Bolsheviks, yeah that's another story.

    I agree with your "breeding ground" comment in general though. Here are my thoughts on Starbucks vs. the Viennese Kaffeehaus. vis a vis the breeding of commies/socialists. BTW, I Iearned how to say "vis a vis" at a coffee shop (not sure that I learned how to spell it!)

    BTW, you just came up with a new name for a new coffee shop I would like to open* in the Fremont neighborhood of Seattle - "The Breeding Grounds"! Man, you must be an MBAnonymous.


    * If I weren't so lazy and were a Communist, that is.

    The Viennese Kaffeehaus is one of Western Civilisation’s most sublime creations, and in no way necessarily Left-wing (after all, I use them regularly when in that delightful city).
    But they are not coffee shops; one doesn’t enter to look for coffee to buy and take home, but for a table to sit at for hours, whiling away the morning by reading the usually superb collection of newspapers, not necessarily all in German. These however are the ones I prefer, particularly the Right-wing populist Krone-Zeitung.
    Of course one must, as in all things, be discriminatory: all too many are now tourist traps. Take the trouble to go where the locals go and you will not be disappointed.
    The one I prefer is just down the street from the Kapuzinergruft (where the Habsburgs are buried), on a corner, with a small park opposite. If anything it is shabby; certainly down-at-heel. But the coffee is decent, a nice glass of cool water always comes with it, and no one will ever try to hurry you up.
    Prince Schwarzenberg was at the next table last time I was there; we nodded, having been at the same event the evening before. But anything more would have been impolite: the Kaffeehaus is not for conversation, but for quiet repose and reflection.

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    OPA, I don't know if you read my post on this. I was referring to a man who used to live there in the 1930's and would say: "Get to work, what do you think this is a Viennese Kaffeehaus!?" I believe in those days, you'd have had some breeding and pounding on tables going on.

    I imagine it IS very different today, and from your description, they sound like great places. It's too bad that in the US, because of cough, certain people, cough, cough, we can't have nice things.
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  171. fitzGetty says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    McDonalds followed a similar trajectory.
     
    Hey, you're onto something. Maybe Charbucks is going the route McDonalds did. Maybe it's becoming a black thing.

    I'm Lovin' It.

    … sociologically speaking, in London, McDonalds’ customers are 95% black …

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  172. Comedy gold from the Wall Street Journal:

    But the announcement fueled criticism over the weekend on social media and in online comments to news reports. Some customers said they feared there wouldn’t be room for paying customers to sit and others said they worried that the public restrooms would attract drug users.

    “It sounds like Starbucks is turning their stores into homeless shelters. Their coffee is strong but their management is weak,” said Ron Raduechel, a 64-year-old retired supply chain executive from Waukesha, Wisc., who said he’ll no longer go to Starbucks.

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  173. res says:
    @Anon
    I hate to be a witch , but what exactly is organic milk? My brother’s a diary farmer in Western Marin. So I’m very familiar with milk production.

    The cows graze on natural grass all day. They come home at 4/30 and eat hay till they are turned out in the morning.

    Some of the hay comes from my brothers fields, some from his neighbors. They do have some calcium vitamin pellets and sometimes oats for the protein.

    Organic food is just food labeled organic and sold to social climbers who like showing off that they can pay a big markup that the proles and peons can’t afford

    It’s like driving a Mercedes instead of a Toyata only cheaper

    Sorry, liberal social climbing pretensions are one of my pet peeves.

    what exactly is organic milk?

    Here is one example: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/13/business/la-fi-dairy13-2010feb13

    Current rules require milk marketed as organic to come from cows whose feed was grown without chemical fertilizers, pesticides or genetically modified seeds. Herds can’t be treated with hormones or antibiotics.
    The new rules seek to close loopholes that had allowed some of the country’s largest feedlots to sell their milk as organic, even though their herds rarely grazed in fields. Bovines are natural grazers that have been known to contract digestive ailments from grain. Farmers will have to ensure that at least 30% of their cows’ diet comes from pasture grass during the mandatory grazing season.

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  174. fitzGetty says:
    @ScarletNumber
    Yes, but to get the wifi password you should have to buy something.

    … there is an ultra discreet Starbucks Secrete in central London … tiny sign outside, dark within with table service from a bar looking like a Sandia lab … no membership but access via recommendation only …

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  175. fitzGetty says:
    @Brutusale
    Judging by the 119 comments thus far, nobody spends much time at Starbucks.

    Wifi is free. No password is necessary. No purchase has ever been necessary. If you're part of the Apple cult you may have trouble logging on; 100% of people asking me for wifi help have been Apple users. I maintain that it's because Google supplies the wifi and they like fucking with Apple users.

    Food is a sideline there. Half the people walking into the Starbucks I frequent have bagels from the place across the street, which corporate policy is fine with. Speaking of food, shop managers have told me that the most profitable item on the menu is the bananas, which retail for $1.25.

    It's been the downtown public restroom since forever. Nobody seems to have a problem with that. The only issue that ever arose was when a kid ODed in the Starbucks men's room. The fire dept. EMTs broke the lock, hit the kid with Narcan and wheeled him away. By the time the city pols and real estate people were done, though, the OD appeared in the police report as a drunk patron.

    The urban shops obviously have to hew to a harder line with the vagrants, but corporate policy is already beginning to deal with it. Starbucks locations undergo renovations every 5-6 years. The 2 Starbucks nearest me have both been redone with fewer and less comfortable seats as well as higher ceilings, which sometimes makes it hard to hear when it's crowded. The "comfy" chairs look and feel like they were purchased from a 1963 IKEA catalogue. The regular chairs were replaced with stools. Most importantly, the entire "laptop" counter has been replaced by the mobile order staging section, which is the ultimate goal: order by phone app, come pick up your drink, and leave without having any human interaction at all. Remember, the endgame for all fast food/drink stores is automated ordering and preparation, with two guys out back filling the ingredient hoppers.

    Starbucks doesn't put anyone out of business. I've read research studies (probably financed by Starbucks) saying that a Starbucks opening up in town raises the profile of coffee and helps all the coffee shops in the area. I just know that my small city of 31,000 has a Starbucks, three Dunkin' Donuts, one Honey Dew (small MA chain) and three private coffee shops, as well as all the gas stations with $1 coffee that seem to be everywhere now. All have been in business for 5+ years and all seem to be thriving.

    Because Starbucks is a monolithic corporation, I have no qualms about using their own system against them. I plan my day on my laptop there while drinking my $2.30 coffee and free refills as long as I'm there. I could do the same thing at one of the the local Dunks, but their cheesy decor, non-native staff and capitalist refill policy precludes it. Private shops need the turnover and the space, so their policy discourages loitering and gratis refills, which I fully understand. I'm Starbucks by default. At the extreme end of this same attitude are the Starbucks patrons who, after spending $6 for a coffee drink, feel free to steal the newspapers and sugar/fake sugar with impunity. I would estimate that 40% of the raw sugar at Starbucks doesn't go into coffee, but into pockets and purses.

    As some have mentioned, this works in a high-trust culture, but not in the current hybrid we have now. The death of the Starbucks model will not be troubles with blacks, but Asians occupying 85% of your seats, using the wifi and drinking bottles of tea from somewhere else. And taking anything not nailed down.

    BTW Steve, Schultzie hasn't been CEO since April of last year.

    … the idea of opening the door of a Starbucks latrine makes me gag … except at ultra discreet Starbucks Secrete in central London where the latrine air is scented with the sweet smell of coffee flowers …

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  176. @Brutusale
    Judging by the 119 comments thus far, nobody spends much time at Starbucks.

    Wifi is free. No password is necessary. No purchase has ever been necessary. If you're part of the Apple cult you may have trouble logging on; 100% of people asking me for wifi help have been Apple users. I maintain that it's because Google supplies the wifi and they like fucking with Apple users.

    Food is a sideline there. Half the people walking into the Starbucks I frequent have bagels from the place across the street, which corporate policy is fine with. Speaking of food, shop managers have told me that the most profitable item on the menu is the bananas, which retail for $1.25.

    It's been the downtown public restroom since forever. Nobody seems to have a problem with that. The only issue that ever arose was when a kid ODed in the Starbucks men's room. The fire dept. EMTs broke the lock, hit the kid with Narcan and wheeled him away. By the time the city pols and real estate people were done, though, the OD appeared in the police report as a drunk patron.

    The urban shops obviously have to hew to a harder line with the vagrants, but corporate policy is already beginning to deal with it. Starbucks locations undergo renovations every 5-6 years. The 2 Starbucks nearest me have both been redone with fewer and less comfortable seats as well as higher ceilings, which sometimes makes it hard to hear when it's crowded. The "comfy" chairs look and feel like they were purchased from a 1963 IKEA catalogue. The regular chairs were replaced with stools. Most importantly, the entire "laptop" counter has been replaced by the mobile order staging section, which is the ultimate goal: order by phone app, come pick up your drink, and leave without having any human interaction at all. Remember, the endgame for all fast food/drink stores is automated ordering and preparation, with two guys out back filling the ingredient hoppers.

    Starbucks doesn't put anyone out of business. I've read research studies (probably financed by Starbucks) saying that a Starbucks opening up in town raises the profile of coffee and helps all the coffee shops in the area. I just know that my small city of 31,000 has a Starbucks, three Dunkin' Donuts, one Honey Dew (small MA chain) and three private coffee shops, as well as all the gas stations with $1 coffee that seem to be everywhere now. All have been in business for 5+ years and all seem to be thriving.

    Because Starbucks is a monolithic corporation, I have no qualms about using their own system against them. I plan my day on my laptop there while drinking my $2.30 coffee and free refills as long as I'm there. I could do the same thing at one of the the local Dunks, but their cheesy decor, non-native staff and capitalist refill policy precludes it. Private shops need the turnover and the space, so their policy discourages loitering and gratis refills, which I fully understand. I'm Starbucks by default. At the extreme end of this same attitude are the Starbucks patrons who, after spending $6 for a coffee drink, feel free to steal the newspapers and sugar/fake sugar with impunity. I would estimate that 40% of the raw sugar at Starbucks doesn't go into coffee, but into pockets and purses.

    As some have mentioned, this works in a high-trust culture, but not in the current hybrid we have now. The death of the Starbucks model will not be troubles with blacks, but Asians occupying 85% of your seats, using the wifi and drinking bottles of tea from somewhere else. And taking anything not nailed down.

    BTW Steve, Schultzie hasn't been CEO since April of last year.

    When visiting my oldest friends in either of their houses (St. Helena and Holmby Hills) I always go out early to buy the morning’s coffee and pastries. The place I drive to in LA doesn’t even have one table: people buy and leave.
    In St. Helena there are two excellent places; I alternate between them. There are tables in both; curiously in the shop on Main street, those who use these are tourists; in the one just off it, they are always locals. In both cases I buy and then walk back to the house (St. Helena is small!), where we proceed to enjoy my largesse on the back terrace overlooking the Tuscan garden and playful fountain. On a good day, it’s as though we had never moved on from the ’5os.

    By the way, there is not one Starbucks in all of St. Helena.

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    The difference is that, when I'm at Starbucks on my laptop, I'm billing the client for my coffee time.

    Today's (policy change) report: 6 patrons on laptops without any purchase (4 Asian, 2 white) and two plucky ME types sharing a laptop with coffees from the place across the street, about 15 people coming in just to use the bathrooms and a middle-aged queen with a lapdog that, after carrying the dog for the past couple months, has started feeding the dog bagel pieces while he was drinking his coffee, which was finally a step too far for the shift manager!

    FWIW, store traffic, which has been down for a couple months now, is positively moribund.
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  177. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Desiderius
    At some point, they’d made enough money.

    I think they would “make” more money — in the sense of creating wealth for a wider share of people — if they were forced to decentralize. Going after Amazon et al like Proctor and Gamble is a win-win for everybody but the current Medici.
    With this and with sending the IG (instead of the police) after the proven Democrat illegal conduct in the election we are waiting for the bad guys to play nice.
    The first sign of Clinton’s media consolidation in the nineties was that the radio went from playing good varied music to having one dull playlist across the dial. Lately I have been hearing multiple different stations pushing Amazon’s Alexa spybot about as subtly as the Chinese government.

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  178. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anon
    I don’t see how that will work in a coffee place. For one thing, it’s against health regulations to have clerks running back and forth between cleaning bathrooms and serving food and drink.

    Then too, who has the time especially in morning rush and at lunch when people are lined up waiting.

    For your thing to work a janitor would have to be hired to be bathroom monitor.

    A joke meant seriously: Howie Deutsch can totally afford to hire a water closet technician (bathroomista?) for every Stabruck’s, but will not do so.

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  179. anon[217] • Disclaimer says:

    Traitor Howard Schultz told Starbucks investors that the only way for Starbucks to grow in the US is through mass immigration. Nothing would please me more than to see Starbucks go down in flames. Why people continue to pay them $5 for a cup of coffee a day is beyond me.

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  180. J1234 says:

    I don’t see many black people in Barnes and Noble, even though they play jazz in there fairly often. Books are reverse polarity magnets to black people and therefore racist and a part of white privilege.

    BTW, if I ever own another retail establishment, I think I’ll play polka on the sound system.

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    To hell with the sound system, just invite your local accordion and banjo players to drop by.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4Ao-iNPPUc

    Or Highland war pipers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xrn43HikrA

    Extra points if they've got flaming metal guitars.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzyfiqEOyjA
    , @MBlanc46
    Frankie Yankovic. Myron Floren. Walter Legawiec and the Polka Kings. Roll out the Barrel!
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  181. Truth says:
    @Svigor
    Yeah but you think every White woman you see is a man. Your warnings are endorsements.

    Well no, Old Sport, and I have explained this to you a few times, but hey, it is you.

    I do not think every white woman that I see is a man, I think that (approximately %95) of the women that you see on TV or in movies are men. Eunuchs, to be more precise. I totally disregarded color because the ratio is the same across all races, nations and media outlets. You brought up color because, well, as Admiral Sailer would say himself; “when all you have is a hammer…”

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    I've only seen you call White women "men." Saying you've noticed something when you haven't is called lying. But then, it's a reverse nickname, so I guess I'm speaking Greek.
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  182. Truth says:

    Grasshopper, have you yet figured out why, seemingly people hate you so much here; on a website in which most people hold similar views to yours?

    Figure that out and get back to me.

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  183. Svigor says:
    @Truth
    Well no, Old Sport, and I have explained this to you a few times, but hey, it is you.

    I do not think every white woman that I see is a man, I think that (approximately %95) of the women that you see on TV or in movies are men. Eunuchs, to be more precise. I totally disregarded color because the ratio is the same across all races, nations and media outlets. You brought up color because, well, as Admiral Sailer would say himself; "when all you have is a hammer..."

    I’ve only seen you call White women “men.” Saying you’ve noticed something when you haven’t is called lying. But then, it’s a reverse nickname, so I guess I’m speaking Greek.

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    Even if you hadn't noticed, you had the option of assuming one way, or another, or finding it a factor of no importance, as I do, or not assuming at all...

    http://everyinvestor.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Hammer-and-nails.jpg

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  184. @Anon
    The profit on non alcoholic beverages is unbelievable. If the waiters load the glasses with ice a restaurants can get thousands of $2.00 drinks out of a gallon of coke syrup.

    Coffee’s about the same profit, a little coffee, a little milk drop of vanilla a little sugar a blender full of ice and viola, a $7. 00 coffee slushy. Starbucks doesn’t need much turnover to make a profit.

    Not to be a pest, but the word you seek is not viola, but voilà. But, as I think on it, since the post is concerned with a string quartet – in which the viola is a participant – this is, ironically, just fine.
    Heh.

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  185. Jack D says:
    @Brutusale
    Judging by the 119 comments thus far, nobody spends much time at Starbucks.

    Wifi is free. No password is necessary. No purchase has ever been necessary. If you're part of the Apple cult you may have trouble logging on; 100% of people asking me for wifi help have been Apple users. I maintain that it's because Google supplies the wifi and they like fucking with Apple users.

    Food is a sideline there. Half the people walking into the Starbucks I frequent have bagels from the place across the street, which corporate policy is fine with. Speaking of food, shop managers have told me that the most profitable item on the menu is the bananas, which retail for $1.25.

    It's been the downtown public restroom since forever. Nobody seems to have a problem with that. The only issue that ever arose was when a kid ODed in the Starbucks men's room. The fire dept. EMTs broke the lock, hit the kid with Narcan and wheeled him away. By the time the city pols and real estate people were done, though, the OD appeared in the police report as a drunk patron.

    The urban shops obviously have to hew to a harder line with the vagrants, but corporate policy is already beginning to deal with it. Starbucks locations undergo renovations every 5-6 years. The 2 Starbucks nearest me have both been redone with fewer and less comfortable seats as well as higher ceilings, which sometimes makes it hard to hear when it's crowded. The "comfy" chairs look and feel like they were purchased from a 1963 IKEA catalogue. The regular chairs were replaced with stools. Most importantly, the entire "laptop" counter has been replaced by the mobile order staging section, which is the ultimate goal: order by phone app, come pick up your drink, and leave without having any human interaction at all. Remember, the endgame for all fast food/drink stores is automated ordering and preparation, with two guys out back filling the ingredient hoppers.

    Starbucks doesn't put anyone out of business. I've read research studies (probably financed by Starbucks) saying that a Starbucks opening up in town raises the profile of coffee and helps all the coffee shops in the area. I just know that my small city of 31,000 has a Starbucks, three Dunkin' Donuts, one Honey Dew (small MA chain) and three private coffee shops, as well as all the gas stations with $1 coffee that seem to be everywhere now. All have been in business for 5+ years and all seem to be thriving.

    Because Starbucks is a monolithic corporation, I have no qualms about using their own system against them. I plan my day on my laptop there while drinking my $2.30 coffee and free refills as long as I'm there. I could do the same thing at one of the the local Dunks, but their cheesy decor, non-native staff and capitalist refill policy precludes it. Private shops need the turnover and the space, so their policy discourages loitering and gratis refills, which I fully understand. I'm Starbucks by default. At the extreme end of this same attitude are the Starbucks patrons who, after spending $6 for a coffee drink, feel free to steal the newspapers and sugar/fake sugar with impunity. I would estimate that 40% of the raw sugar at Starbucks doesn't go into coffee, but into pockets and purses.

    As some have mentioned, this works in a high-trust culture, but not in the current hybrid we have now. The death of the Starbucks model will not be troubles with blacks, but Asians occupying 85% of your seats, using the wifi and drinking bottles of tea from somewhere else. And taking anything not nailed down.

    BTW Steve, Schultzie hasn't been CEO since April of last year.

    It’s important to understand that before the Starbucks revival (there were others – Peets, etc.) coffee consumption had been declining in America for 50 years. Coffee in most places was watery and either Robusta beans – these used to come from Brazil but nowadays Vietnam (taste like burned rubber but have a caffeine kick – Folgers, Maxwell House) or low grade, lightly roasted Arabica (Dunkin Donuts, 8 O’clock – lightly roasted beans lose less weight, increase your yield). It was an industry in a death spiral – the industry produced a degraded product – people bought less of it, lowering industry profits so then they would degrade the product some more (not to mention that a 1 lb. bag/can of coffee now weighs 12 oz or less) and then people would buy even less. Starbucks really pulled the whole industry out of this tailspin even if they did it by overroasting their beans (Charbucks).

    Once upon a time, coffee was the default beverage in America (except maybe in the Deep South where Coca Cola was preferred because of the hot climate). People drank it with their meals, the way they drink Coke now. Children drank it (there’s no health reason why they shouldn’t – the idea that is bad for children was Fake News spread by Coca Cola – I kid you not). Even now coffee consumption levels are way below what they were in the old days. Coke’s marketing was the best in the world and they got the whole country to switch to Coke from coffee.

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    I managed a marketing research test of advertising to get people to buy more coffee at the supermarket in the early 1980s. It was a complete failure. Those who were shown the coffee ads on their living room TVs for a year didn't buy any more coffee than those who were show public service announcements.

    It took entrepreneurs like Schultz to make coffee fashionable again, in part by charging more.

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  186. Olorin says:
    @Moses
    Schultz is no dummy.

    You think he’s really going to let homeless camp out in his stores and frighten away all the GoodWhites?

    No.

    More likely he’ll give store managers the impossible double standard of maintaining clean, safe stores while also letting “anyone” camp out (at least in theory). The unwritten rule will be that anyone who causes a media blowup will be fired.

    I for one am looking forward to how this plays out.

    The biggest profits from Starbucks stock have already been made. But there is a simple strategy for investors to hitch a ride on Starbucks’ continued success. And it doesn’t have anything to do with Starbucks stock.

    It has everything to do with real estate…

    The location of Starbucks stores has been a key factor contributing to the company’s success. Arthur Rubinfeld is a Starbucks executive who oversees new store locations. He says, “The beauty of Starbucks is our understanding of real estate site locationing. It’s an art and a science.”

    Starbucks has a team dedicated to selecting new locations for stores, based on a wide range of demographic and property data. Their analytical approach has allowed the company to consistently find profitable locations. It’s also allowed Starbucks to concentrate multiple stores in close proximity.

    The opening of a Starbucks in a neighborhood can actually change the neighborhood. You’ve probably noticed this first hand. After a Starbucks opens up, new restaurants, cafes and bars start popping up in the same area.

    This activity has a very positive effect on real estate prices. A recent study from real estate website Zillow (NYSE: Z) looked at homes within a quarter-mile of a Starbucks location. What they found was that between 1997 and 2014, the homes located near a Starbucks increased in value by 96%. Meanwhile, the average home in the U.S. increased in value by 65%.

    Interestingly, the researchers at Zillow also looked at home values near a Dunkin’ Donuts, which is owned by Dunkin’ Brands (NYSE: DNKN). Homes near a Dunkin’ Donuts rose more quickly than the average American home. But with 80% appreciation, they fell short of Starbucks.

    With more than 21,000 locations around the world – including nearly 12,000 in the U.S. – Starbucks has a huge presence. It already has stores open in nearly every affluent neighborhood in America. To expand, the company is looking to open stores in neighborhoods that are experiencing redevelopment and gentrification.

    These are often neighborhoods that are becoming hip, with younger people moving in. The opening of a Starbucks is a sign that real improvements to a neighborhood are underway.

    The historical data suggests that a simple real estate investment strategy could deliver solid profits. Simply buy properties that are within a quarter-mile of a new Starbucks location.

    Let’s consider what would have happened if you bought five properties back in 1997, and all five were located near a Starbucks. You would have paid an average of $137,000 and made a total investment of $685,000.

    Today, those five properties would each be worth $269,000. And your real estate portfolio would be worth $1.3 million. Plus, you would have collected rent checks from tenants year after year.

    If you see a Starbucks opening up near your home, look at the local real estate. Look for homes in close proximity. Put 20% down and buy a house or condo as a rental property. If you buy the property at a decent price, the rent will cover the mortgage payment, taxes and maintenance.

    http://www.wyattresearch.com/article/starbucks-real-estate-investment-strategy/

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  187. @TheBoom
    I am concerned that Starbucks providing a platform for blacks to play classical music will normalize cultural appropriation.

    Boom, Oberlin College, arguably the most liberal college in the nation, has a music conservatory. A couple of years ago black students in the music department presented a list of demands to the college president, which included the end of teaching Eurocentric music and the classical composers.

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  188. Truth says:
    @Svigor
    I've only seen you call White women "men." Saying you've noticed something when you haven't is called lying. But then, it's a reverse nickname, so I guess I'm speaking Greek.

    Even if you hadn’t noticed, you had the option of assuming one way, or another, or finding it a factor of no importance, as I do, or not assuming at all…

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  189. @Pat Boyle
    Marian Anderson was famous for political reasons. She was not a very good singer. Nor was Paul Robeson.

    The really great black singers of serious music were Leontyne Price, Martina Arroyo, and Grace Bumbry. There are two very good black operatic tenors working today but there are far fewer black singers than one would expect. Blacks generally just don't like serious music.

    Meanwhile there is a revolution in opera voices today from the East Asians. There are dozens of very fine Korean tenors whom you can hear of YouTube. There seems to be racial prejudice against Orientals appearing live on an opera stage.

    Blacks probably don't like serious Western music because it often complex and employs large forces whereas virtually all black music is never performed by anything larger than a church choir. The best black music is often quite simple. For example the Harry Belafonte Calypso songs which have simple tunes and simple lyrics but are very catchy. There are no black composed operas, oratorios or cantatas or symphonies or concertos. (Some commenter here will dig up one no doubt, but you will never have heard of it).

    Well, you’re correct, somebody did. The famous black composer of ragtime, Scott Joplin, did author an opera entitled Treemonisha, whose theme was one of uplift for blacks through education.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treemonisha

    I suspect that its rediscovery and subsequent performances owed much to the interest in Scott Joplin’s piano ragtime works going on at about that time. I am personally unfamiliar with it, but apparently it can be found at YouTube.

    So there ya go.

    JJ

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    Actually I knew about Treemonisha but I couldn't remember who had written it or what it's exact name was. I have never heard any of it. Nor has anyone else I suspect.

    To put this in perspective, in America in the nineteenth century there were over two thousand original English language operas produced. Most were about cowboys and Indians. Not a single note of any of these operas still exists.
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  190. Olorin says:
    @J1234
    I don't see many black people in Barnes and Noble, even though they play jazz in there fairly often. Books are reverse polarity magnets to black people and therefore racist and a part of white privilege.

    BTW, if I ever own another retail establishment, I think I'll play polka on the sound system.

    To hell with the sound system, just invite your local accordion and banjo players to drop by.

    Or Highland war pipers.

    Extra points if they’ve got flaming metal guitars.

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  191. @Anonymous
    I knew an old curmudgeon that kept kids out of his book store by 'playing' a sine wave tone in the 14-16 kHz range. Most old people, especially the old males he preferred as customers didn't hear it at all but kids and some women it drove nuts. Most couldn't quite make out what was going on but they knew it bothered them and they left.


    Years later it turned out they made commercial devices to do just this and sold them for a while. I think they were banned or got sued out of existence because it was alleged they caused tinnitus.

    I’ve never been diagnosed with tinnitus, but I’ve heard occasional ringing (like electronic “white noise”) in my ears all my life. As a kid, I didn’t even know that it wasn’t normal. As an adult, I find it easy to ignore.

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    Some tinnitus can be due to TMJ, and de-stressing is one way to provide some relief.
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  192. Pat Boyle says:
    @JerseyJeffersonian
    Well, you're correct, somebody did. The famous black composer of ragtime, Scott Joplin, did author an opera entitled Treemonisha, whose theme was one of uplift for blacks through education.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treemonisha

    I suspect that its rediscovery and subsequent performances owed much to the interest in Scott Joplin's piano ragtime works going on at about that time. I am personally unfamiliar with it, but apparently it can be found at YouTube.

    So there ya go.

    JJ

    Actually I knew about Treemonisha but I couldn’t remember who had written it or what it’s exact name was. I have never heard any of it. Nor has anyone else I suspect.

    To put this in perspective, in America in the nineteenth century there were over two thousand original English language operas produced. Most were about cowboys and Indians. Not a single note of any of these operas still exists.

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  193. Ivy says:
    @Stan Adams
    I've never been diagnosed with tinnitus, but I've heard occasional ringing (like electronic "white noise") in my ears all my life. As a kid, I didn't even know that it wasn't normal. As an adult, I find it easy to ignore.

    Some tinnitus can be due to TMJ, and de-stressing is one way to provide some relief.

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  194. @Dave Pinsen
    I played Beethoven's Grosse Fugue for my college roommate once (the Mahler arrangement of it, IIRC), and he said, "You can tell he was deaf when wrote this". It grows on you though.

    The one time Starbucks successfully warded me off with music is when they played Paul McCartney's new album in heavy rotation.

    The one time Starbucks successfully warded me off with music is when they played Paul McCartney’s new album in heavy rotation.

    You and me both, amigo! I recall that dark period.

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  195. @Jack D
    It's important to understand that before the Starbucks revival (there were others - Peets, etc.) coffee consumption had been declining in America for 50 years. Coffee in most places was watery and either Robusta beans - these used to come from Brazil but nowadays Vietnam (taste like burned rubber but have a caffeine kick - Folgers, Maxwell House) or low grade, lightly roasted Arabica (Dunkin Donuts, 8 O'clock - lightly roasted beans lose less weight, increase your yield). It was an industry in a death spiral - the industry produced a degraded product - people bought less of it, lowering industry profits so then they would degrade the product some more (not to mention that a 1 lb. bag/can of coffee now weighs 12 oz or less) and then people would buy even less. Starbucks really pulled the whole industry out of this tailspin even if they did it by overroasting their beans (Charbucks).

    Once upon a time, coffee was the default beverage in America (except maybe in the Deep South where Coca Cola was preferred because of the hot climate). People drank it with their meals, the way they drink Coke now. Children drank it (there's no health reason why they shouldn't - the idea that is bad for children was Fake News spread by Coca Cola - I kid you not). Even now coffee consumption levels are way below what they were in the old days. Coke's marketing was the best in the world and they got the whole country to switch to Coke from coffee.

    I managed a marketing research test of advertising to get people to buy more coffee at the supermarket in the early 1980s. It was a complete failure. Those who were shown the coffee ads on their living room TVs for a year didn’t buy any more coffee than those who were show public service announcements.

    It took entrepreneurs like Schultz to make coffee fashionable again, in part by charging more.

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    If Lauren Bacall and Scott Bakula can't sell coffee, who can?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiRTnAcxL44

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbpxIcfYCxg
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  196. @eD
    I've seem public restrooms work, in bus stations in Brazil, and the key is to have an attendant monitor things. Its bizarre that Americans can't grasp this, but then the whole ideal of closing mental health institutions and dumping their patients on the streets, which mostly created the homeless problem in the US and UK in the first place, was also bizarre.

    I can recall riding the crowded train all night in Italy in 1980 and getting to Mussolini’s giant marble Milan train station at dawn. You go in the men’s room and for about a quarter you give the lady attendant you got your own 100 square foot marble stall. It was great.

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    Yeah, well, I recall pulling into Austria coming from Germany at 6 in the morning after riding in the train all night. The lady attendant wanted about the same amount for me to use this toilet, but it was free to pee. That was a real problem, as the place to exchange money was not open yet, and I didn't have to pee. She sat behind a desk INSIDE the bathroom and told me Nien. I was very lucky to find a guy nearby to give me some Schilling for some Marks. Wheeewww.
    , @Marty
    Used to have an internist in Oakland named Calma. He told me that his grandfather designed Milan's main train station.
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  197. Hibernian says:
    @Charles Pewitt
    OFF TOPIC

    President Trump must smash the treasonous rats in the Deep State. Former FBI director James Comey and former CIA director John Brennan must be brought to justice for their crimes and transgressions against the American people and the rule of law.

    Comey and Brennan are two evil baby boomer rats who do the bidding of the evil globalizers attacking the American people. Comey and Brennan act as Deep State stooges for the evil globalizers who pull the strings on all the puppet politicians in the United States.

    Let us not forget the ancestral grudge that some Irish people such as Brennan and Comey hold against the British Protestant settlers and founders of the United States of America. It must never be forgotten that some Leprechaun bastards hate the British Protestants that are the true ancestral core of the United States. Obama, the nasty anti-White mulatto who set Brennan and Comey against the American people, is another one of these horrible scoundrels who hates the British Protestants who started and formed the United States of America.

    Sailer goes on and on about how his theory that Obama's mama was some kind of Deep State operative doing Third World work for the Deep State slobs. Well, who doesn't know that the Deep State slobs have been working behind the scenes to attack and destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the United States? Who doesn't know that evil WASP treasonites in the American Empire's Deep State have used their positions as government workers to push globalization, mass immigration, transnationalism and multiculturalism?

    It is a battle between patriotic Americans of British Protestant background against evil, treasonous Deep State British Protestants. The evil British Protestant use treasonous Leprechauns such as Comey and Brennan to do their dirty work. Is there some moron out there who doesn't see the significance of both Brennan and Comey being New York City area Leprechaun baby boomer globalizer bastards?

    BACK TO BLOOD

    President Trump implicitly appealed to patriotic British Protestants, German Americans and other voters of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States to win the presidency. Obama and Hillary Clinton appealed to treasonous White voters who work for the government or who benefit from globalization and monetary extremism.

    President Trump should fire every government worker scoundrel who is protecting Deep State scum such as Brennan and Comey. Trump has over 60 million Americans who voted for him. Trump should immediately start forming an American People's Army to defeat and crush the evil treasonous scum in the Deep State of the American Empire.

    God Bless America And To Prison With Deep State Treasonites Comey And Brennan!

    Ronald Reagan, Al Haig, and Bill Buckley were half Leperchauns. Alger Hiss was an offspring of your beloved ancestral core.

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  198. @Old Palo Altan
    The Viennese Kaffeehaus is one of Western Civilisation's most sublime creations, and in no way necessarily Left-wing (after all, I use them regularly when in that delightful city).
    But they are not coffee shops; one doesn't enter to look for coffee to buy and take home, but for a table to sit at for hours, whiling away the morning by reading the usually superb collection of newspapers, not necessarily all in German. These however are the ones I prefer, particularly the Right-wing populist Krone-Zeitung.
    Of course one must, as in all things, be discriminatory: all too many are now tourist traps. Take the trouble to go where the locals go and you will not be disappointed.
    The one I prefer is just down the street from the Kapuzinergruft (where the Habsburgs are buried), on a corner, with a small park opposite. If anything it is shabby; certainly down-at-heel. But the coffee is decent, a nice glass of cool water always comes with it, and no one will ever try to hurry you up.
    Prince Schwarzenberg was at the next table last time I was there; we nodded, having been at the same event the evening before. But anything more would have been impolite: the Kaffeehaus is not for conversation, but for quiet repose and reflection.

    OPA, I don’t know if you read my post on this. I was referring to a man who used to live there in the 1930′s and would say: “Get to work, what do you think this is a Viennese Kaffeehaus!?” I believe in those days, you’d have had some breeding and pounding on tables going on.

    I imagine it IS very different today, and from your description, they sound like great places. It’s too bad that in the US, because of cough, certain people, cough, cough, we can’t have nice things.

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  199. @Steve Sailer
    I can recall riding the crowded train all night in Italy in 1980 and getting to Mussolini's giant marble Milan train station at dawn. You go in the men's room and for about a quarter you give the lady attendant you got your own 100 square foot marble stall. It was great.

    Yeah, well, I recall pulling into Austria coming from Germany at 6 in the morning after riding in the train all night. The lady attendant wanted about the same amount for me to use this toilet, but it was free to pee. That was a real problem, as the place to exchange money was not open yet, and I didn’t have to pee. She sat behind a desk INSIDE the bathroom and told me Nien. I was very lucky to find a guy nearby to give me some Schilling for some Marks. Wheeewww.

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  200. Anon87 says:

    You’re right about metalheads.

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  201. @AndrewR
    I wonder if they will kick people out of their stores for aggressive farting. I may test this question out. There are days when I produce more gas than a North Dakota well.

    There’s probably a clause in the Americans with Disabilities Act that would prevent them from expelling you for that.

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  202. Marty says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I can recall riding the crowded train all night in Italy in 1980 and getting to Mussolini's giant marble Milan train station at dawn. You go in the men's room and for about a quarter you give the lady attendant you got your own 100 square foot marble stall. It was great.

    Used to have an internist in Oakland named Calma. He told me that his grandfather designed Milan’s main train station.

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  203. @Steve Sailer
    I managed a marketing research test of advertising to get people to buy more coffee at the supermarket in the early 1980s. It was a complete failure. Those who were shown the coffee ads on their living room TVs for a year didn't buy any more coffee than those who were show public service announcements.

    It took entrepreneurs like Schultz to make coffee fashionable again, in part by charging more.

    If Lauren Bacall and Scott Bakula can’t sell coffee, who can?

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  204. @Dave Pinsen
    Starbucks already has a high-end concept store, though I don’t know how many they have now: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/12/05/business/in-the-capital-of-coffee-enthusiasm-for-starbucks-upmarket-chain.html

    Not for nuthin, but I mentioned Starbucks Reserve in the very first comment on this thread.

    And as Brutusale says, it’s pretty clear most of the commenters here have never been to a Starbucks. His comments are exactly right.

    Somewhere around 10% of the population comes in and stays for a long time. Did you ever notice there’s no TV in Starbucks? Hell, sushi bars have TV these days. Why not Starbucks? Because they are happy to add the people who want a place to get away from TV–for their own sake. Why do I know this? Because I spend a lot of time in Starbucks writing for my blog. I also spend a lot of time in them when I’m on vacation. There’s always one at walking distance, so I can walk to a coffee shop, get a drink, and write. Gets me some exercise, gets me away from TV.

    They also have a great loyalty program with lots of coupons.

    Starbucks with lots of homeless patrons keep their bathrooms under a coded lock. I don’t know if those will all be undone.

    I can’t remember who suggested that companies would do well simply to ignore media outrages like this. I hope some of them begin to realize how utterly worthless it is to respond to them.

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    ER, I'm currently drinking a flat white with 2 extra shots because I felt somewhat expansive this morning and used some of my points to get a $7.25 coffee drink gratis. Even though I didn't "buy" a regular coffee, my barista buddies will give me the free refills just because.

    As I continually point out, in the food service environment, find a place you like, become a regular and enjoy the benefits. If you tip, of course.
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  205. wren says:
    @Truth

    Yet … there must be an all-black string quartet or orchestra, right? They could sign a lucrative contract to be #Starbucks’ exclusive Inclusive purveyor of bum-repellent great music.

    Quick search online … Yes, there is!
     
    Just a quick word of concern/obserservation here, Steve-O: You are rapidly approaching that line of age/hubris-related, silk sheet, self-parody that old entertainers ridicule as young people, and almost invariably assume, before kitchy, but well-compensated, irrelevance. If you are unsure of what I am referring, watch some clips of William Shatner toward the end of the TJ Hooker run, or Al Pacino in Heat... Or listen for Dylan on a Traveling Wilburys album.

    You know, I’ve been saying that I would buy Steve’s book, if he ever writes one, for a few years now.

    I have no idea if he wants to or will.

    That being said, I just realized that someone else who could probably write a popular book would be you.

    I’d buy it.

    Right now the topic of the alt-right is still pretty popular, so you could strike while the iron is hot and some publisher would probably pick it up.

    “All Night With the Alt-Right”

    “10,001 Comments With the Alt-Right”

    “Racism, Misogyny and Ignorance: My Time in The Comments Section”

    “Sailer and Derbyshire Vs. Truth: My Journey to Understanding”

    “Late Night Trolling: My Voyage of Discovery Through The Underbelly of the Intellectual Right”

    The best part is that it is almost guaranteed that once you published it you could become the go-to guy for CNN and NPR etc, when they needed some commentary on the Alt-Right.

    You could become our voice in the media Truth!

    Of course, this is assuming that you don’t already have a gig with the FBI or something like that.

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    I will, at some point in the not-too-distant future, buy his book on Obama. A collection of columns from Taki’s etc. would also be a purchase.
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  206. FPD72 says:
    @Jack D
    Musical talent is one item that is not as closely tied to IQ as most other cognitive skills. Although most blacks are not interested in playing classical music any more than they are interested in listening to it (in Philadelphia, a 50% black city, you can usually count the # of blacks at classical music concerts on the fingers of one hand), when they put their mind to it they can be very good at it.

    I thought the black eighteen year-old who played the cello at Saturday’s royal wedding was very impressive. I think he won some sort of competition to gain the honor. I don’t know whether the competition was color blind.

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  207. @Steve Sailer
    It's part of the charm of visiting Avalon on Catalina Island 26 miles across the sea from Los Angeles: all the restaurants are non-chain local ones. I'm sure the chains would provide a little better value, but then it would be like being home instead of on an island in the Pacific.

    Martha’s Vineyard is like that, though there is a CVS and a Stop & Shop.

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  208. Brutusale says:
    @Old Palo Altan
    When visiting my oldest friends in either of their houses (St. Helena and Holmby Hills) I always go out early to buy the morning's coffee and pastries. The place I drive to in LA doesn't even have one table: people buy and leave.
    In St. Helena there are two excellent places; I alternate between them. There are tables in both; curiously in the shop on Main street, those who use these are tourists; in the one just off it, they are always locals. In both cases I buy and then walk back to the house (St. Helena is small!), where we proceed to enjoy my largesse on the back terrace overlooking the Tuscan garden and playful fountain. On a good day, it's as though we had never moved on from the '5os.

    By the way, there is not one Starbucks in all of St. Helena.

    The difference is that, when I’m at Starbucks on my laptop, I’m billing the client for my coffee time.

    Today’s (policy change) report: 6 patrons on laptops without any purchase (4 Asian, 2 white) and two plucky ME types sharing a laptop with coffees from the place across the street, about 15 people coming in just to use the bathrooms and a middle-aged queen with a lapdog that, after carrying the dog for the past couple months, has started feeding the dog bagel pieces while he was drinking his coffee, which was finally a step too far for the shift manager!

    FWIW, store traffic, which has been down for a couple months now, is positively moribund.

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  209. @the one they call Desanex
    Prince Harry, the son of Prince Chuck,
    Found a “black girl” to marry and f---
    Whose skin isn’t inky,
    Nor hair coarse and kinky,
    Nor a-- quite as wide as a truck.

    LOL–literally.

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  210. Brutusale says:
    @education realist
    Not for nuthin, but I mentioned Starbucks Reserve in the very first comment on this thread.

    And as Brutusale says, it's pretty clear most of the commenters here have never been to a Starbucks. His comments are exactly right.

    Somewhere around 10% of the population comes in and stays for a long time. Did you ever notice there's no TV in Starbucks? Hell, sushi bars have TV these days. Why not Starbucks? Because they are happy to add the people who want a place to get away from TV--for their own sake. Why do I know this? Because I spend a lot of time in Starbucks writing for my blog. I also spend a lot of time in them when I'm on vacation. There's always one at walking distance, so I can walk to a coffee shop, get a drink, and write. Gets me some exercise, gets me away from TV.

    They also have a great loyalty program with lots of coupons.

    Starbucks with lots of homeless patrons keep their bathrooms under a coded lock. I don't know if those will all be undone.

    I can't remember who suggested that companies would do well simply to ignore media outrages like this. I hope some of them begin to realize how utterly worthless it is to respond to them.

    ER, I’m currently drinking a flat white with 2 extra shots because I felt somewhat expansive this morning and used some of my points to get a $7.25 coffee drink gratis. Even though I didn’t “buy” a regular coffee, my barista buddies will give me the free refills just because.

    As I continually point out, in the food service environment, find a place you like, become a regular and enjoy the benefits. If you tip, of course.

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  211. @Pericles

    The parks department had to take the doors off the stalls at a famous rest stop on 280 in silicon valley.

     

    Makes me wonder about the restrooms at Google, and Tim Cook's executive suite.

    Isn’t that the *only* rest stop on 280? With the statue of Father Junipero Serra keeping a watchful eye on the congregants?

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  212. imbroglio says:

    I suspect Starbucks isn’t stupid. This move is good non-racist positioning for the franchise’s next move. Dunkin’ Donuts seems to be doing a better business with its drive-thru than its sit down facilities. And whether you’re a PhD on the wifi with your latté taking up a table for an hour or a visitor taking up the table for an hour sans latté, the sit down business may be a profit eater. Look for Starbucks to phase toward drive thru locations with outdoor seating and wifi with no indoor facilities including bathrooms.

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  213. Mj says:
    @Eric F
    I think speak for many iSteve readers when I say that the future financial health of the Starbucks corporation is not exactly a topic of great concern.

    Starbuck’s financial condition is beside the point. If you are a regular reader of iSteve then surely you’ve noticed that Steve comments on stories that are seemingly trivial but have non-trivial underlying implications.

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    Starbuck’s financial condition is beside the point. If you are a regular reader of iSteve then surely you’ve noticed that Steve comments on stories that are seemingly trivial but have non-trivial underlying implications.

     

    Demography and debt are the "non-trivial underlying" subtext for just about everything.

    Mass immigration and monetary extremism is the whole ball of wax.

    Any boob who doesn't see that is a moron or a whore paid not to see that.
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  214. @Mj
    Starbuck’s financial condition is beside the point. If you are a regular reader of iSteve then surely you’ve noticed that Steve comments on stories that are seemingly trivial but have non-trivial underlying implications.

    Starbuck’s financial condition is beside the point. If you are a regular reader of iSteve then surely you’ve noticed that Steve comments on stories that are seemingly trivial but have non-trivial underlying implications.

    Demography and debt are the “non-trivial underlying” subtext for just about everything.

    Mass immigration and monetary extremism is the whole ball of wax.

    Any boob who doesn’t see that is a moron or a whore paid not to see that.

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  215. @TheBoom
    The parks department had to take the doors off the stalls at a famous rest stop on 280 in silicon valley. Apparently, homosexuals weren't stopping there to rest

    The northern-most rest stop on the New Jersey Turnpike is named for Vince Lombardi, only a few miles from David Pinsen.

    This rest stop was a notorious cruising place for gays. Ironically, Lombardi died from prostate cancer. He was too homophobic to get the test done.

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  216. @Bitfu
    In other news, a principal at a high school in Philadelphia --the city where the Declaration of Independence was signed--had to apologize for putting the following on the school's prom tickets:

    'Let's Party Like It's 1776'

    More here:

    CHERRY HILL – The principal of Cherry Hill High School East has apologized for “insensitive” language on tickets for the upcoming senior prom.

    The tickets urged students to “party like it’s 1776” during the event at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia.

    But that prompted complaints from students who noted “not all communities can celebrate what life was like in 1776,” Principal Dennis Perry said in a letter to the community Friday.

    “I am writing to apologize for the hurt feelings this reference caused for members of our school family,” wrote Perry.

    “I especially apologize to our African American students, who I have let down by not initially recognizing the inappropriateness of this wording,” he added.

    Perry said all prom-goers will receive commemorative tickets without the offensive language and vowed the school will make changes “to produce well thought out, appropriate communications.”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/20/new-jersey-principal-apologizes-prom-tickets/626989002/
     
    We need a Turing Test 2.0--Instead of distinguishing between machine and human, we need to start distinguishing between parody and non-parody.

    If I took this Turing Test 2.0 on whether the hurt feeling associated with 'Let's Party Like It's 1776!' was a parody or not---I would fail. I would fail miserably.

    Nitpick: Cherry Hill is not part of Philadelphia and isn’t even in Pennsylvania. It is on the right side of the Delaware.

    The high school in question is…

    62% white
    22% Asian
    6% black
    6% Latino

    As offended as some people are pretending to be, I’m sure if there was a senior trip to see Hamilton it would be packed.

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  217. @Brutusale
    Judging by the 119 comments thus far, nobody spends much time at Starbucks.

    Wifi is free. No password is necessary. No purchase has ever been necessary. If you're part of the Apple cult you may have trouble logging on; 100% of people asking me for wifi help have been Apple users. I maintain that it's because Google supplies the wifi and they like fucking with Apple users.

    Food is a sideline there. Half the people walking into the Starbucks I frequent have bagels from the place across the street, which corporate policy is fine with. Speaking of food, shop managers have told me that the most profitable item on the menu is the bananas, which retail for $1.25.

    It's been the downtown public restroom since forever. Nobody seems to have a problem with that. The only issue that ever arose was when a kid ODed in the Starbucks men's room. The fire dept. EMTs broke the lock, hit the kid with Narcan and wheeled him away. By the time the city pols and real estate people were done, though, the OD appeared in the police report as a drunk patron.

    The urban shops obviously have to hew to a harder line with the vagrants, but corporate policy is already beginning to deal with it. Starbucks locations undergo renovations every 5-6 years. The 2 Starbucks nearest me have both been redone with fewer and less comfortable seats as well as higher ceilings, which sometimes makes it hard to hear when it's crowded. The "comfy" chairs look and feel like they were purchased from a 1963 IKEA catalogue. The regular chairs were replaced with stools. Most importantly, the entire "laptop" counter has been replaced by the mobile order staging section, which is the ultimate goal: order by phone app, come pick up your drink, and leave without having any human interaction at all. Remember, the endgame for all fast food/drink stores is automated ordering and preparation, with two guys out back filling the ingredient hoppers.

    Starbucks doesn't put anyone out of business. I've read research studies (probably financed by Starbucks) saying that a Starbucks opening up in town raises the profile of coffee and helps all the coffee shops in the area. I just know that my small city of 31,000 has a Starbucks, three Dunkin' Donuts, one Honey Dew (small MA chain) and three private coffee shops, as well as all the gas stations with $1 coffee that seem to be everywhere now. All have been in business for 5+ years and all seem to be thriving.

    Because Starbucks is a monolithic corporation, I have no qualms about using their own system against them. I plan my day on my laptop there while drinking my $2.30 coffee and free refills as long as I'm there. I could do the same thing at one of the the local Dunks, but their cheesy decor, non-native staff and capitalist refill policy precludes it. Private shops need the turnover and the space, so their policy discourages loitering and gratis refills, which I fully understand. I'm Starbucks by default. At the extreme end of this same attitude are the Starbucks patrons who, after spending $6 for a coffee drink, feel free to steal the newspapers and sugar/fake sugar with impunity. I would estimate that 40% of the raw sugar at Starbucks doesn't go into coffee, but into pockets and purses.

    As some have mentioned, this works in a high-trust culture, but not in the current hybrid we have now. The death of the Starbucks model will not be troubles with blacks, but Asians occupying 85% of your seats, using the wifi and drinking bottles of tea from somewhere else. And taking anything not nailed down.

    BTW Steve, Schultzie hasn't been CEO since April of last year.

    The 2 Starbucks nearest me have both been redone with fewer and less comfortable seats

    Barnes & Noble has also done this.

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  218. MBlanc46 says:
    @J1234
    I don't see many black people in Barnes and Noble, even though they play jazz in there fairly often. Books are reverse polarity magnets to black people and therefore racist and a part of white privilege.

    BTW, if I ever own another retail establishment, I think I'll play polka on the sound system.

    Frankie Yankovic. Myron Floren. Walter Legawiec and the Polka Kings. Roll out the Barrel!

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  219. MBlanc46 says:
    @wren
    You know, I've been saying that I would buy Steve's book, if he ever writes one, for a few years now.

    I have no idea if he wants to or will.

    That being said, I just realized that someone else who could probably write a popular book would be you.

    I'd buy it.

    Right now the topic of the alt-right is still pretty popular, so you could strike while the iron is hot and some publisher would probably pick it up.

    "All Night With the Alt-Right"

    "10,001 Comments With the Alt-Right"

    "Racism, Misogyny and Ignorance: My Time in The Comments Section"

    "Sailer and Derbyshire Vs. Truth: My Journey to Understanding"

    "Late Night Trolling: My Voyage of Discovery Through The Underbelly of the Intellectual Right"

    The best part is that it is almost guaranteed that once you published it you could become the go-to guy for CNN and NPR etc, when they needed some commentary on the Alt-Right.

    You could become our voice in the media Truth!

    Of course, this is assuming that you don't already have a gig with the FBI or something like that.

    I will, at some point in the not-too-distant future, buy his book on Obama. A collection of columns from Taki’s etc. would also be a purchase.

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