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The flamboyant Italian opera and movie (the 1968 Romeo and Juliet) director has died at 96 after a long life of believing too much is never enough when it comes to making audiences happy.

Zeffirelli’s 1999 movie about his upbringing in 1930s Florence, Tea with Mussolini, is a fairly rare example of the genre of the autobiographical movie about Why I Turned Out Alright. Most artists want to tell you about why they are all messed up due to their childhoods, but Zeffirelli’s instead is about how, even though he had some bad luck starting out illegitimate, he went on to have a wonderful life due to some rich English (Maggie Smith) and American (Cher) expat ladies more or less adopting the charming little boy and introducing him to expensive pleasures like opera and Shakespeare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPHa9zGS7AQ

I’m reminded of how different Italy, Germany, and the Soviet Union were in the 1930s. You had to be an ideological true believer to move to the Soviet Union, and it might well cost you your life. Peacetime Nazi Germany was less lethal but was still unattractive to the global rich. But Mussolini’s Italy attracted quite a few people who could afford to live anywhere.

 
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  1. In brighter news, Vancouver Film School has opened a branch campus in Shanghai. As this report shows, the Chinese make convincing zombies.

    At about $30,000 for the one-year course, this will prepare them for deep student debt.

  2. I liked Zeffirelli’s Jesus of Nazareth and his Romeo and Juliet, but otherwise paid no attention to him. His passing has prompted me to look up his Wiki biography which is quite interesting. Apparently he was a protege of the Marxist director Visconti and like Visconti, a homosexual. Yet he evolved into a practicing Catholic who defended the Church’s position on such things as abortion and homosexuality, and served in the Italian parliament as a member of Berlusconi’s Forza Italia Party. Interesting guy. RIP.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Anon
    Taming of the Shrew was probably his best work, though I'll take Swept Away by Wertmuller any day.

    Zeff was opulence done with syrup. Too much. His Jesus movie was a chore as dull as Greatest Story Ever Told. Romeo and Juliet is okay for highschoolers.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Kirt:

    A tip-off about his Catholic sensibilities. A long time ago on "Sixty Minutes", Harry Reasoner when interviewing Zeffirelli pointed out that he had gone out of his way to cast the Romeo and Juliet clergy in good light.

    , @Anon

    apparently he was a protege of the Marxist director Visconti
     
    Visconti's greatest work by far was the reactionary THE LEOPARD.

    Visconti was Marxist in the way that earlier Italians were Catholics. The new official faith of the postwar era.

    http://curnblog.com/2014/01/11/luchino-visconti-german-trilogy/

  3. Adam Serwer explains the loathdomemrss of conservative white people and their selfishness and weakness

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/ahmari-french-orban/591697/

    Black Americans did not abandon liberal democracy because of slavery, Jim Crow, and the systematic destruction of whatever wealth they managed to accumulate; instead they took up arms in two world wars to defend it. Japanese Americans did not reject liberal democracy because of internment or the racist humiliation of Asian exclusion; they risked life and limb to preserve it. Latinos did not abandon liberal democracy because of “Operation Wetback,” or Proposition 187, or because of a man who won a presidential election on the strength of his hostility toward Latino immigrants. Gay, lesbian, and trans Americans did not abandon liberal democracy over decades of discrimination and abandonment in the face of an epidemic. This is, in part, because doing so would be tantamount to giving the state permission to destroy them, a thought so foreign to these defenders of the supposedly endangered religious right that the possibility has not even occurred to them. But it is also because of a peculiar irony of American history: The American creed has no more devoted adherents than those who have been historically denied its promises, and no more fair-weather friends than those who have taken them for granted.

    You people are traitors and will get what is coming to you

    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @Change that Matters
    The first sentence amused me enough to stop me from reading further:

    "Black Americans did not abandon liberal democracy because of slavery..."
     
    Just as I always suspected. 17th century blacks from west Africa were liberal democrats before they got on the boats.
    , @Logan
    This is, in part, because doing so would be tantamount to giving the state permission to destroy them, a thought so foreign to these defenders of the supposedly endangered religious right that the possibility has not even occurred to them.

    Thanks, always enjoy a laugh.

    This is based on the rather odd notion that the ineffective defense by the "religious right" of traditional American values somehow constitutes a new and genocidal threat to these various "marginalized peoples." Somehow, when the state did have "permission to destroy them," it failed to do so.

    Very few members of the religious right desire anything more than a return to the America of the 1950s, the actual version, of course, of which these marginalized groups somehow managed to survive. I strongly suspect the vast majority of the right simply wants to be left alone to live their own lives in their conservative way.
    , @fnn

    Latinos did not abandon liberal democracy ...
     
    How "liberal democracy" works in Mexico:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/23/world/americas/23mexico.html

    MEXICO CITY — It had been an elaborate farewell to one of Mexico’s fallen heroes.

    Ensign Melquisedet Angulo Córdova, a special forces sailor killed last week during the government’s most successful raid on a top drug lord in years, received a stirring public tribute in which the secretary of the navy presented his mother with the flag that covered her son’s coffin.

    Then, only hours after the grieving family had finished burying him in his hometown the next day, gunmen burst into the family’s house and sprayed the rooms with gunfire, killing his mother and three other relatives, officials said Tuesday.
     
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    This is what occupies Steve Sailer's time instead of writing books and polishing that pilot script about the Korean family.
    , @Olorin
    Looks like the Tiny Duck operation out of whatever marcomm department/associated PR firm is hosting it is back for the summer...

    ...now staffed by a 350-lb lesbian with a thesaurus and a semester of hoity-toity rhetoric (probably a T. Genius Coates reading course).

    "You promised me a six-food-four blue-eyed IQ 140+ husband with a six-figure income, babies, and a house in the suburbs--but somehow I didn't get one with my pink hair, nosering, neck tattoos, studies studies degree from the University of Getting You In School Debt, habits of alimentary and consumerist gluttony, and erratic/hostile behavior! You HISTORICALLY DENIED YOUR PROMISES!

    "No, no it's not about MY disappointment, it's about the grievances of those people over there. Let me tell you all about them!"

    There are no promises, broad. I don't owe anybody but my ancestors and descendants a GD thing.

    But I'm sure you and your classmates/intern flight/entry-level Online Influencers will keep yourselves busy as courtesans to the global establishment. It's as close to marriage as many people will ever get.

    , @guest
    Uh, what do you mean did not abandon it? Like they were doing it before?
  4. Maggie Smith, the one woman wormhole to high Western Civilization.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    Not sure what you mean, but Maggie was a deeply attractive English Rose when she was young:

    https://www.vintag.es/2018/01/young-maggie-smith.html

    There'll never be another like her, at least not in the next 50 years and this society (UK and US) will be dead before that.

    Now the English cast actresses like this:

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1200x675/p03t4f5n.jpg

    There is no place for English roses anymore.
  5. @Kirt
    I liked Zeffirelli's Jesus of Nazareth and his Romeo and Juliet, but otherwise paid no attention to him. His passing has prompted me to look up his Wiki biography which is quite interesting. Apparently he was a protege of the Marxist director Visconti and like Visconti, a homosexual. Yet he evolved into a practicing Catholic who defended the Church's position on such things as abortion and homosexuality, and served in the Italian parliament as a member of Berlusconi's Forza Italia Party. Interesting guy. RIP.

    Taming of the Shrew was probably his best work, though I’ll take Swept Away by Wertmuller any day.

    Zeff was opulence done with syrup. Too much. His Jesus movie was a chore as dull as Greatest Story Ever Told. Romeo and Juliet is okay for highschoolers.

    • Replies: @jimmyriddle
    I remember being taken to see Romeo & Juliet whilst at school in about 1980.

    From memory it was saccharine, but better than the Elizabethan costume production from 5 years ago (with Damian Lewis playing Capulet) - Olivia Hussey was a lot better looking than the Juliet in that film.

    , @Alden
    For me, Shrew was spoiled by Richard Burton. I truly can’t stand him. He’s ugly and he’s not really an actor. He just stand there and does monologues in that awful fake royal academy of dramatic art voice. Best part was Liz’ hair styles

    I loved the movie and tried to ignore Burton. .

    Even in those war movies, Burton didn’t move much. Just declaimed.
  6. @Tiny Duck
    Adam Serwer explains the loathdomemrss of conservative white people and their selfishness and weakness


    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/ahmari-french-orban/591697/


    Black Americans did not abandon liberal democracy because of slavery, Jim Crow, and the systematic destruction of whatever wealth they managed to accumulate; instead they took up arms in two world wars to defend it. Japanese Americans did not reject liberal democracy because of internment or the racist humiliation of Asian exclusion; they risked life and limb to preserve it. Latinos did not abandon liberal democracy because of “Operation Wetback,” or Proposition 187, or because of a man who won a presidential election on the strength of his hostility toward Latino immigrants. Gay, lesbian, and trans Americans did not abandon liberal democracy over decades of discrimination and abandonment in the face of an epidemic. This is, in part, because doing so would be tantamount to giving the state permission to destroy them, a thought so foreign to these defenders of the supposedly endangered religious right that the possibility has not even occurred to them. But it is also because of a peculiar irony of American history: The American creed has no more devoted adherents than those who have been historically denied its promises, and no more fair-weather friends than those who have taken them for granted.

    You people are traitors and will get what is coming to you

    The first sentence amused me enough to stop me from reading further:

    “Black Americans did not abandon liberal democracy because of slavery…”

    Just as I always suspected. 17th century blacks from west Africa were liberal democrats before they got on the boats.

    • Replies: @Louis Renault
    No no, the 17th century blacks in West Africa put the liberal democrats in chains and sold them off to the foreigners who promised to take them away forever.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    While typically nutty, this is too coherent, and properly spelled, for Tiny. Is he hiring a ghostwriter? Or editor?

    Or is it just a shift change at SPLC?
  7. I have liked all the movies by him that I have seen, and now want to see them all. We have Romeo & Juliet on DVD, but haven’t watched it in years. Put it into the DVD player last night thinking that it wouldn’t hold up well, but it did, and surprisingly so. Zeffirelli stayed faithful to the setting and the script, with no effort to modernize it or make it edgy or make Romeo & Juliet both transgender omnisexuals or whatever. Hussey and Whiting were perfect in the leads, and Nino Rota’s score is divine.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    Zeffirelli did a magnificent job with The Taming of the Shrew as well, casting
    Liz Taylor and Richard Burton in roles they were born for. Watching it, you can see they were all having the time of their lives.
  8. @Anon
    Taming of the Shrew was probably his best work, though I'll take Swept Away by Wertmuller any day.

    Zeff was opulence done with syrup. Too much. His Jesus movie was a chore as dull as Greatest Story Ever Told. Romeo and Juliet is okay for highschoolers.

    I remember being taken to see Romeo & Juliet whilst at school in about 1980.

    From memory it was saccharine, but better than the Elizabethan costume production from 5 years ago (with Damian Lewis playing Capulet) – Olivia Hussey was a lot better looking than the Juliet in that film.

    • Replies: @Logan
    I thought his casting of teenagers as the two leads was great.

    As compared, for instance, to the 1940 version where the two leads were 27 and 33.

    The rather over the top behavior of R&J is understandable by hormonal and inexperienced teenagers. For people in their late 20s and early 30s it's just stupid.
  9. @Kirt
    I liked Zeffirelli's Jesus of Nazareth and his Romeo and Juliet, but otherwise paid no attention to him. His passing has prompted me to look up his Wiki biography which is quite interesting. Apparently he was a protege of the Marxist director Visconti and like Visconti, a homosexual. Yet he evolved into a practicing Catholic who defended the Church's position on such things as abortion and homosexuality, and served in the Italian parliament as a member of Berlusconi's Forza Italia Party. Interesting guy. RIP.

    Kirt:

    A tip-off about his Catholic sensibilities. A long time ago on “Sixty Minutes”, Harry Reasoner when interviewing Zeffirelli pointed out that he had gone out of his way to cast the Romeo and Juliet clergy in good light.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    A tip-off about his Catholic sensibilities. A long time ago on “Sixty Minutes”, Harry Reasoner when interviewing Zeffirelli pointed out that he had gone out of his way to cast the Romeo and Juliet clergy in good light.
     
    I remember reading somewhere that Zeffirelli remarked that Brother Sun, Sister Moon (his biopic about Francis of Assisi) required an Italian director, as only an Italian could properly understand St Francis, the most saintly of Italians, and the most Italian of the saints....
  10. @Dan Hayes
    Kirt:

    A tip-off about his Catholic sensibilities. A long time ago on "Sixty Minutes", Harry Reasoner when interviewing Zeffirelli pointed out that he had gone out of his way to cast the Romeo and Juliet clergy in good light.

    A tip-off about his Catholic sensibilities. A long time ago on “Sixty Minutes”, Harry Reasoner when interviewing Zeffirelli pointed out that he had gone out of his way to cast the Romeo and Juliet clergy in good light.

    I remember reading somewhere that Zeffirelli remarked that Brother Sun, Sister Moon (his biopic about Francis of Assisi) required an Italian director, as only an Italian could properly understand St Francis, the most saintly of Italians, and the most Italian of the saints….

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  11. IIRC, didn’t Romeo & Juliet have a brief bit of nudity? It ripped my community to pieces, because the younger, hip teachers wanted to make it required viewing, while the older, saner teachers thought it was a commie attempt to debase our American culture. Our parents were, of course, against any porn aimed at the kids.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    Yes, but Leonard Whiting's ass is on screen about 100 times longer than Olivia Hussey's breasts. I guess that should have been a dead giveaway about Zeffirelli's sexual preferences. When we watched "R&J" in my 9th grade English class, when the teacher "forgot" to fast-forward past the nude scene, the relative lengths of time was the furthest thing from my mind. All I was thinking was "hey, boobs!"
  12. We thought his La Traviata was excellent.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  13. “I’m reminded of how different Italy, Germany, and the Soviet Union were in the 1930s. You had to be an ideological true believer to move to the Soviet Union, and it might well cost you your life. Peacetime Nazi Germany was less lethal but was still unattractive to the global rich. But Mussolini’s Italy attracted quite a few people who could afford to live anywhere.”

    Could it be that unless they have been bombarded with propaganda for years, normal people of European ancestry and cultural lineage recognize Marxism as worse than German National Socialism, which is decidedly worse than Latinate Fascism?

    As that alone is First Degree Crimethink, we might as well continue with this observation: Anglophone Globalism, what The Saker dubs The Anglo-Zionist Empire, takes much of the worst of German National Socialism, omits its fierce promotion of its own people and replaces that with the Bolshevik promotion and protection of Jews (which is elevated beyond that of Bolsheviks because it is based on Anglo-Saxon Judaizing heresy), while maintaining the British sense of business as a type of secular religion, of perfect books and accounts and ever greater profits for the owners, whose lineages are made near eternal by a class system based on money that erects barriers to meaningful upward mobility save by members of groups (non-white and/or non-Christian) used by the Rulers to keep the white trash in place.

  14. @Tiny Duck
    Adam Serwer explains the loathdomemrss of conservative white people and their selfishness and weakness


    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/ahmari-french-orban/591697/


    Black Americans did not abandon liberal democracy because of slavery, Jim Crow, and the systematic destruction of whatever wealth they managed to accumulate; instead they took up arms in two world wars to defend it. Japanese Americans did not reject liberal democracy because of internment or the racist humiliation of Asian exclusion; they risked life and limb to preserve it. Latinos did not abandon liberal democracy because of “Operation Wetback,” or Proposition 187, or because of a man who won a presidential election on the strength of his hostility toward Latino immigrants. Gay, lesbian, and trans Americans did not abandon liberal democracy over decades of discrimination and abandonment in the face of an epidemic. This is, in part, because doing so would be tantamount to giving the state permission to destroy them, a thought so foreign to these defenders of the supposedly endangered religious right that the possibility has not even occurred to them. But it is also because of a peculiar irony of American history: The American creed has no more devoted adherents than those who have been historically denied its promises, and no more fair-weather friends than those who have taken them for granted.

    You people are traitors and will get what is coming to you

    This is, in part, because doing so would be tantamount to giving the state permission to destroy them, a thought so foreign to these defenders of the supposedly endangered religious right that the possibility has not even occurred to them.

    Thanks, always enjoy a laugh.

    This is based on the rather odd notion that the ineffective defense by the “religious right” of traditional American values somehow constitutes a new and genocidal threat to these various “marginalized peoples.” Somehow, when the state did have “permission to destroy them,” it failed to do so.

    Very few members of the religious right desire anything more than a return to the America of the 1950s, the actual version, of course, of which these marginalized groups somehow managed to survive. I strongly suspect the vast majority of the right simply wants to be left alone to live their own lives in their conservative way.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  15. @jimmyriddle
    I remember being taken to see Romeo & Juliet whilst at school in about 1980.

    From memory it was saccharine, but better than the Elizabethan costume production from 5 years ago (with Damian Lewis playing Capulet) - Olivia Hussey was a lot better looking than the Juliet in that film.

    I thought his casting of teenagers as the two leads was great.

    As compared, for instance, to the 1940 version where the two leads were 27 and 33.

    The rather over the top behavior of R&J is understandable by hormonal and inexperienced teenagers. For people in their late 20s and early 30s it’s just stupid.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
  16. Zeffirelli was one of, maybe even the greatest of, the grand old queens of Italy.

    Johnathon Schaech is now claiming to have been permanently traumatized by being groped by the old lech, when he signed up for Storia di una capinera, way back in 1991.

    Is it even remotely possible that the guy didn’t realize that Zeffirelli chose his male leads for their youthful good looks & likely…pliability…and not their acting ability?

    That said, Zeffirelli’s movie of Romeo & Juliet gets 4 out of 5 stars from me, his Taming of the Shrew gets 4.5, and his Metropolitan Opera production of Turandot…5.

  17. @Change that Matters
    The first sentence amused me enough to stop me from reading further:

    "Black Americans did not abandon liberal democracy because of slavery..."
     
    Just as I always suspected. 17th century blacks from west Africa were liberal democrats before they got on the boats.

    No no, the 17th century blacks in West Africa put the liberal democrats in chains and sold them off to the foreigners who promised to take them away forever.

    • LOL: bomag
  18. I thought his movies were all excellent, Jesus of Nazareth truly great. And what’s the point of opera without the masses of color and movement he brought?
    RIP

  19. fnn says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Adam Serwer explains the loathdomemrss of conservative white people and their selfishness and weakness


    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/ahmari-french-orban/591697/


    Black Americans did not abandon liberal democracy because of slavery, Jim Crow, and the systematic destruction of whatever wealth they managed to accumulate; instead they took up arms in two world wars to defend it. Japanese Americans did not reject liberal democracy because of internment or the racist humiliation of Asian exclusion; they risked life and limb to preserve it. Latinos did not abandon liberal democracy because of “Operation Wetback,” or Proposition 187, or because of a man who won a presidential election on the strength of his hostility toward Latino immigrants. Gay, lesbian, and trans Americans did not abandon liberal democracy over decades of discrimination and abandonment in the face of an epidemic. This is, in part, because doing so would be tantamount to giving the state permission to destroy them, a thought so foreign to these defenders of the supposedly endangered religious right that the possibility has not even occurred to them. But it is also because of a peculiar irony of American history: The American creed has no more devoted adherents than those who have been historically denied its promises, and no more fair-weather friends than those who have taken them for granted.

    You people are traitors and will get what is coming to you

    Latinos did not abandon liberal democracy …

    How “liberal democracy” works in Mexico:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/23/world/americas/23mexico.html

    MEXICO CITY — It had been an elaborate farewell to one of Mexico’s fallen heroes.

    Ensign Melquisedet Angulo Córdova, a special forces sailor killed last week during the government’s most successful raid on a top drug lord in years, received a stirring public tribute in which the secretary of the navy presented his mother with the flag that covered her son’s coffin.

    Then, only hours after the grieving family had finished burying him in his hometown the next day, gunmen burst into the family’s house and sprayed the rooms with gunfire, killing his mother and three other relatives, officials said Tuesday.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    The question isn't whether the cartels are a credible competitor with GoM for control of Mexico, but where the respective parties stand in the rankings (when considering the various cartels as a single entity). We talking 40/60 here? 25/75? Would be nice to have a reasonably accurate guess, but IME this kind of thing never gets honestly assessed.
  20. @The Alarmist
    IIRC, didn't Romeo & Juliet have a brief bit of nudity? It ripped my community to pieces, because the younger, hip teachers wanted to make it required viewing, while the older, saner teachers thought it was a commie attempt to debase our American culture. Our parents were, of course, against any porn aimed at the kids.

    Yes, but Leonard Whiting’s ass is on screen about 100 times longer than Olivia Hussey’s breasts. I guess that should have been a dead giveaway about Zeffirelli’s sexual preferences. When we watched “R&J” in my 9th grade English class, when the teacher “forgot” to fast-forward past the nude scene, the relative lengths of time was the furthest thing from my mind. All I was thinking was “hey, boobs!”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, but Leonard Whiting’s ass is on screen about 100 times longer than Olivia Hussey’s breasts.
     
    They were 17 and 16 at the time. That would get Zeffirelli arrested today.

    Other underage, underdressed actresses have been Olivia D'Abo (15) in John Derek's Bolero, and Michelle Johnson (17) in Blame It On Rio. The latter's full-frontal was accidental, but they left it in.

    , @guest
    When I was in junior high the Leo/Claire Danes Romeo and Juliet had already come out, and I remember girls in the class complaining about not getting to watch that one. But I was confident Olivia Hussy's bosom offered a more rarified cultural experience than the that of the girl from My So-Called Life.
  21. @Kirt
    I liked Zeffirelli's Jesus of Nazareth and his Romeo and Juliet, but otherwise paid no attention to him. His passing has prompted me to look up his Wiki biography which is quite interesting. Apparently he was a protege of the Marxist director Visconti and like Visconti, a homosexual. Yet he evolved into a practicing Catholic who defended the Church's position on such things as abortion and homosexuality, and served in the Italian parliament as a member of Berlusconi's Forza Italia Party. Interesting guy. RIP.

    apparently he was a protege of the Marxist director Visconti

    Visconti’s greatest work by far was the reactionary THE LEOPARD.

    Visconti was Marxist in the way that earlier Italians were Catholics. The new official faith of the postwar era.

    http://curnblog.com/2014/01/11/luchino-visconti-german-trilogy/

    • Replies: @Kirt
    WOW! Thanks for the link to that interesting analysis of Visconti's work. I've seen The Damned at least three times and found it interesting since it dated from the end of an era when Catholics, Communists, and many others alike viewed the Nazis as degenerate homosexual militants. This was true of at least part of the Nazi movement and Hitler's own role was ambiguous, as documented in Lothar Machtan's book The Hidden Hitler. This history is now in the process of being scrubbed since the PC position is that anyone who opposes homosexuality is a Nazi. I didn't know until yesterday that Visconti was homosexual, as was Zefferelli. Is it a thing with Italian directors? Anyway, this article and discussion have prompted me to try to see some of these Italian movies that I have heard of, but missed - like The Leopard. Beats the hell out of this 5th grade comic book super hero garbage, which is all you get out of Hollywood these days.
  22. @Tiny Duck
    Adam Serwer explains the loathdomemrss of conservative white people and their selfishness and weakness


    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/ahmari-french-orban/591697/


    Black Americans did not abandon liberal democracy because of slavery, Jim Crow, and the systematic destruction of whatever wealth they managed to accumulate; instead they took up arms in two world wars to defend it. Japanese Americans did not reject liberal democracy because of internment or the racist humiliation of Asian exclusion; they risked life and limb to preserve it. Latinos did not abandon liberal democracy because of “Operation Wetback,” or Proposition 187, or because of a man who won a presidential election on the strength of his hostility toward Latino immigrants. Gay, lesbian, and trans Americans did not abandon liberal democracy over decades of discrimination and abandonment in the face of an epidemic. This is, in part, because doing so would be tantamount to giving the state permission to destroy them, a thought so foreign to these defenders of the supposedly endangered religious right that the possibility has not even occurred to them. But it is also because of a peculiar irony of American history: The American creed has no more devoted adherents than those who have been historically denied its promises, and no more fair-weather friends than those who have taken them for granted.

    You people are traitors and will get what is coming to you

    This is what occupies Steve Sailer’s time instead of writing books and polishing that pilot script about the Korean family.

  23. @Change that Matters
    The first sentence amused me enough to stop me from reading further:

    "Black Americans did not abandon liberal democracy because of slavery..."
     
    Just as I always suspected. 17th century blacks from west Africa were liberal democrats before they got on the boats.

    While typically nutty, this is too coherent, and properly spelled, for Tiny. Is he hiring a ghostwriter? Or editor?

    Or is it just a shift change at SPLC?

    • Replies: @bomag
    Anything coherent from the Duck is a cut and paste; in this case, about halfway down the linked piece from the Atlantic, a rather weird piece that both gloats over the Lefts victories in the culture war, and a call to crush the religious Right for the gains they are making.
  24. @Wilkey
    Yes, but Leonard Whiting's ass is on screen about 100 times longer than Olivia Hussey's breasts. I guess that should have been a dead giveaway about Zeffirelli's sexual preferences. When we watched "R&J" in my 9th grade English class, when the teacher "forgot" to fast-forward past the nude scene, the relative lengths of time was the furthest thing from my mind. All I was thinking was "hey, boobs!"

    Yes, but Leonard Whiting’s ass is on screen about 100 times longer than Olivia Hussey’s breasts.

    They were 17 and 16 at the time. That would get Zeffirelli arrested today.

    Other underage, underdressed actresses have been Olivia D’Abo (15) in John Derek’s Bolero, and Michelle Johnson (17) in Blame It On Rio. The latter’s full-frontal was accidental, but they left it in.

    • Replies: @Alden
    I bet it was accidental.,
  25. Italia is and will always be the most important, sanest, most stunningly beautiful country on planet mirth, and I am proud to inform that my own mother was born there in the central mountain range the “Abbruzzi”, a child of disenfranchised nobility, (prefix : “Di”) and a marvelous singer and songwriter.

    Her father , a graduate architect from the university of Milano, moved to the US ten years prior to bringing over the family after having established himself in his field, on a luxury steamship no less, only to go bankrupt late-thirties.
    My Mom on occasion would then again tell us kids about the Packard with driver and flower vases, in which she had been driven to school early thirties.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz artist.

    PS for the folks who do not believe my family credentials: Save your energy, as I don’t give a shiot.

  26. Zeffirelli’s father had at least 20 children sprinkled around town. The private school he went to was in a monastery decorated with Fra Lippi murals drop dead beautiful blonde models portrayed as Mary and saints.

    Father managed to supoort them all. He kept running into half sibs all over town. Auto biography didn’t mention English ladies that I remember.

  27. @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, but Leonard Whiting’s ass is on screen about 100 times longer than Olivia Hussey’s breasts.
     
    They were 17 and 16 at the time. That would get Zeffirelli arrested today.

    Other underage, underdressed actresses have been Olivia D'Abo (15) in John Derek's Bolero, and Michelle Johnson (17) in Blame It On Rio. The latter's full-frontal was accidental, but they left it in.

    I bet it was accidental.,

  28. I don’t remember any nudity. In the scene the morning after the marriage they were covered by sheets. Maybe it was still illegal to show nudity then. Directors always filmed nude sex violence and gore scenes that could be kept or omitted according to local laws.

    We took the kids I don’t remember R or PG13
    About 1979? Interesting that the 9 year old boys loved it. They even went back by themselved. I think it was all those teen age boys running around and fighting defying authority and behaving badly that they liked Plus they were used to TV and not the glorious color flash and dash of a Zeffirelli film When they talked about it they called it Romeo, not R&J

  29. @Desiderius
    Maggie Smith, the one woman wormhole to high Western Civilization.

    Not sure what you mean, but Maggie was a deeply attractive English Rose when she was young:

    https://www.vintag.es/2018/01/young-maggie-smith.html

    There’ll never be another like her, at least not in the next 50 years and this society (UK and US) will be dead before that.

    Now the English cast actresses like this:

    There is no place for English roses anymore.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Of course. By wormhole I mean an unexpected passage. She takes us there with her by her unmatched skill in the art of acting.

    She’s what Hepburn should have been.

  30. @Anon
    Taming of the Shrew was probably his best work, though I'll take Swept Away by Wertmuller any day.

    Zeff was opulence done with syrup. Too much. His Jesus movie was a chore as dull as Greatest Story Ever Told. Romeo and Juliet is okay for highschoolers.

    For me, Shrew was spoiled by Richard Burton. I truly can’t stand him. He’s ugly and he’s not really an actor. He just stand there and does monologues in that awful fake royal academy of dramatic art voice. Best part was Liz’ hair styles

    I loved the movie and tried to ignore Burton. .

    Even in those war movies, Burton didn’t move much. Just declaimed.

    • Replies: @vinteuil

    Shrew was spoiled by Richard Burton.
     
    You crazy, bro?

    I mean, who would you have put in his place?

    John Cleese?
    , @Old Palo Altan
    Often true enough, your critique, but in his last role as Richard Wagner, he comes into his own.

    Watch it.
  31. https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/06/17/taylor-swift-features-toothless-protesters-in-political-lgbtq-music-video/

    Unbelievably courageous moral stand by Swift. Similarly courageous and totally not controlled oppo breitbart doesn’t even use the word “white” once in the article.

    Tag: white privilege

  32. @fnn

    Latinos did not abandon liberal democracy ...
     
    How "liberal democracy" works in Mexico:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/23/world/americas/23mexico.html

    MEXICO CITY — It had been an elaborate farewell to one of Mexico’s fallen heroes.

    Ensign Melquisedet Angulo Córdova, a special forces sailor killed last week during the government’s most successful raid on a top drug lord in years, received a stirring public tribute in which the secretary of the navy presented his mother with the flag that covered her son’s coffin.

    Then, only hours after the grieving family had finished burying him in his hometown the next day, gunmen burst into the family’s house and sprayed the rooms with gunfire, killing his mother and three other relatives, officials said Tuesday.
     

    The question isn’t whether the cartels are a credible competitor with GoM for control of Mexico, but where the respective parties stand in the rankings (when considering the various cartels as a single entity). We talking 40/60 here? 25/75? Would be nice to have a reasonably accurate guess, but IME this kind of thing never gets honestly assessed.

  33. @Reg Cæsar
    While typically nutty, this is too coherent, and properly spelled, for Tiny. Is he hiring a ghostwriter? Or editor?

    Or is it just a shift change at SPLC?

    Anything coherent from the Duck is a cut and paste; in this case, about halfway down the linked piece from the Atlantic, a rather weird piece that both gloats over the Lefts victories in the culture war, and a call to crush the religious Right for the gains they are making.

  34. Like so much 20th-century Italian art (Lookin’ at you, Marinetti), Zeffirelli’s “Romeo and Juliet” is a weird virtuoso melange of the technically brilliant, the historically conscious, the spiritually silly, and the utterly preposterous. It is lovely cinema but ridiculous tragedy, he cannot possibly understand the play: he is a gay modern Italian riffing on what a straight, ale-swilling neo-mediaeval Englishman thought of the “star-crossed lovers” trope that’s been lurking the Mediterranean since Sappho. He can’t understand the ways in which the play is really about Tybalt and Mercutio.

    I would have loved to have seen a Zeffirelli performance of the “Pyramus and Thisbe” routine in A Midsummernight’s Dream. I bet he would have never even guessed it was supposed to be funny.

  35. @Tiny Duck
    Adam Serwer explains the loathdomemrss of conservative white people and their selfishness and weakness


    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/ahmari-french-orban/591697/


    Black Americans did not abandon liberal democracy because of slavery, Jim Crow, and the systematic destruction of whatever wealth they managed to accumulate; instead they took up arms in two world wars to defend it. Japanese Americans did not reject liberal democracy because of internment or the racist humiliation of Asian exclusion; they risked life and limb to preserve it. Latinos did not abandon liberal democracy because of “Operation Wetback,” or Proposition 187, or because of a man who won a presidential election on the strength of his hostility toward Latino immigrants. Gay, lesbian, and trans Americans did not abandon liberal democracy over decades of discrimination and abandonment in the face of an epidemic. This is, in part, because doing so would be tantamount to giving the state permission to destroy them, a thought so foreign to these defenders of the supposedly endangered religious right that the possibility has not even occurred to them. But it is also because of a peculiar irony of American history: The American creed has no more devoted adherents than those who have been historically denied its promises, and no more fair-weather friends than those who have taken them for granted.

    You people are traitors and will get what is coming to you

    Looks like the Tiny Duck operation out of whatever marcomm department/associated PR firm is hosting it is back for the summer…

    …now staffed by a 350-lb lesbian with a thesaurus and a semester of hoity-toity rhetoric (probably a T. Genius Coates reading course).

    “You promised me a six-food-four blue-eyed IQ 140+ husband with a six-figure income, babies, and a house in the suburbs–but somehow I didn’t get one with my pink hair, nosering, neck tattoos, studies studies degree from the University of Getting You In School Debt, habits of alimentary and consumerist gluttony, and erratic/hostile behavior! You HISTORICALLY DENIED YOUR PROMISES!

    “No, no it’s not about MY disappointment, it’s about the grievances of those people over there. Let me tell you all about them!”

    There are no promises, broad. I don’t owe anybody but my ancestors and descendants a GD thing.

    But I’m sure you and your classmates/intern flight/entry-level Online Influencers will keep yourselves busy as courtesans to the global establishment. It’s as close to marriage as many people will ever get.

  36. First boobs I saw on the silver screen.

  37. @Tiny Duck
    Adam Serwer explains the loathdomemrss of conservative white people and their selfishness and weakness


    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/ahmari-french-orban/591697/


    Black Americans did not abandon liberal democracy because of slavery, Jim Crow, and the systematic destruction of whatever wealth they managed to accumulate; instead they took up arms in two world wars to defend it. Japanese Americans did not reject liberal democracy because of internment or the racist humiliation of Asian exclusion; they risked life and limb to preserve it. Latinos did not abandon liberal democracy because of “Operation Wetback,” or Proposition 187, or because of a man who won a presidential election on the strength of his hostility toward Latino immigrants. Gay, lesbian, and trans Americans did not abandon liberal democracy over decades of discrimination and abandonment in the face of an epidemic. This is, in part, because doing so would be tantamount to giving the state permission to destroy them, a thought so foreign to these defenders of the supposedly endangered religious right that the possibility has not even occurred to them. But it is also because of a peculiar irony of American history: The American creed has no more devoted adherents than those who have been historically denied its promises, and no more fair-weather friends than those who have taken them for granted.

    You people are traitors and will get what is coming to you

    Uh, what do you mean did not abandon it? Like they were doing it before?

  38. I just watched Zefferelli’s Endless Love last Tuesday. I always thought it was underrated, the story of a teenage boy who becomes obsessed with his girlfriend (Brooke Shields) after her parents bars her from seeing him.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Endless Love? ... I'll take Tuff Turf.

    Zeffirelli was one of the most literal-minded directors ever. The Michael Bay of the arthouse.
    His La Traviata is shot with filters throughout because it's ROMANTIC. It's the dumbest way to make a movie. The only reason Taming of the Shrew sort of works is because Burton and Taylor steal the show from Zeff. It's like Fisher King is Gilliam's one of few watchable films because Bridges and Williams do enough to distract us from Gilliam's stupid theatrics.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-1mRjN7clY
  39. @Wilkey
    I have liked all the movies by him that I have seen, and now want to see them all. We have Romeo & Juliet on DVD, but haven't watched it in years. Put it into the DVD player last night thinking that it wouldn't hold up well, but it did, and surprisingly so. Zeffirelli stayed faithful to the setting and the script, with no effort to modernize it or make it edgy or make Romeo & Juliet both transgender omnisexuals or whatever. Hussey and Whiting were perfect in the leads, and Nino Rota's score is divine.

    Zeffirelli did a magnificent job with The Taming of the Shrew as well, casting
    Liz Taylor and Richard Burton in roles they were born for. Watching it, you can see they were all having the time of their lives.

  40. @Wilkey
    Yes, but Leonard Whiting's ass is on screen about 100 times longer than Olivia Hussey's breasts. I guess that should have been a dead giveaway about Zeffirelli's sexual preferences. When we watched "R&J" in my 9th grade English class, when the teacher "forgot" to fast-forward past the nude scene, the relative lengths of time was the furthest thing from my mind. All I was thinking was "hey, boobs!"

    When I was in junior high the Leo/Claire Danes Romeo and Juliet had already come out, and I remember girls in the class complaining about not getting to watch that one. But I was confident Olivia Hussy’s bosom offered a more rarified cultural experience than the that of the girl from My So-Called Life.

  41. Two things stand out in my mind about Zeffereli:

    Nino Rota, which is to say his Romeo and Juliet score, and

    the great mystery of how Glenn Close could be Mel Gibson’s mother. Which I must say distracted from an otherwise enjoyable “Mad Mel” performance.

    But that’s my mind.

  42. @Anon

    apparently he was a protege of the Marxist director Visconti
     
    Visconti's greatest work by far was the reactionary THE LEOPARD.

    Visconti was Marxist in the way that earlier Italians were Catholics. The new official faith of the postwar era.

    http://curnblog.com/2014/01/11/luchino-visconti-german-trilogy/

    WOW! Thanks for the link to that interesting analysis of Visconti’s work. I’ve seen The Damned at least three times and found it interesting since it dated from the end of an era when Catholics, Communists, and many others alike viewed the Nazis as degenerate homosexual militants. This was true of at least part of the Nazi movement and Hitler’s own role was ambiguous, as documented in Lothar Machtan’s book The Hidden Hitler. This history is now in the process of being scrubbed since the PC position is that anyone who opposes homosexuality is a Nazi. I didn’t know until yesterday that Visconti was homosexual, as was Zefferelli. Is it a thing with Italian directors? Anyway, this article and discussion have prompted me to try to see some of these Italian movies that I have heard of, but missed – like The Leopard. Beats the hell out of this 5th grade comic book super hero garbage, which is all you get out of Hollywood these days.

  43. Anonymous[992] • Disclaimer says:

    I didn’t know until yesterday that Visconti was homosexual, as was Zefferelli. Is it a thing with Italian directors?

    Directors who tend to be obsessed with costumes and decor tend to be homo, though not always. At any rate, Visconti and Zefferelli were only aesthetic homos. There is the sensibility but not much in the way of message. It was more radical with Pasolini who however was not a homo activist.

    I don’t think most other famous Italian directors were homo: De Sica, Rossellini, Fellini(though ambiguous), Antonioni, Olmi, Bertolucci, Bellocchio, Leone, Pontecorvo, Nanetti, Wertmuller(though I’m surprised she’s not lesbian), Rosi, Corbucci, Monicelli, etc.

    And the great Italian-American directors weren’t homo though Cimino began to act a bit strange in his final yrs.

    • Replies: @bored identity
    Congratulazioni a Lina! :

    http://www.ansa.it/english/news/lifestyle/arts/2019/06/03/wertmuller-to-get-career-oscar_d4630af3-6999-46f4-ad50-ce596d93643c.html
  44. Anonymous[992] • Disclaimer says:
    @Claus Brinker
    I just watched Zefferelli's Endless Love last Tuesday. I always thought it was underrated, the story of a teenage boy who becomes obsessed with his girlfriend (Brooke Shields) after her parents bars her from seeing him.

    Endless Love? … I’ll take Tuff Turf.

    Zeffirelli was one of the most literal-minded directors ever. The Michael Bay of the arthouse.
    His La Traviata is shot with filters throughout because it’s ROMANTIC. It’s the dumbest way to make a movie. The only reason Taming of the Shrew sort of works is because Burton and Taylor steal the show from Zeff. It’s like Fisher King is Gilliam’s one of few watchable films because Bridges and Williams do enough to distract us from Gilliam’s stupid theatrics.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    In *The Taming of the Shrew*, Zeffirelli let Liz & Dick strut their stuff - and strut their stuff they did.
  45. @Jane Plain
    Not sure what you mean, but Maggie was a deeply attractive English Rose when she was young:

    https://www.vintag.es/2018/01/young-maggie-smith.html

    There'll never be another like her, at least not in the next 50 years and this society (UK and US) will be dead before that.

    Now the English cast actresses like this:

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1200x675/p03t4f5n.jpg

    There is no place for English roses anymore.

    Of course. By wormhole I mean an unexpected passage. She takes us there with her by her unmatched skill in the art of acting.

    She’s what Hepburn should have been.

  46. “…But Mussolini’s Italy attracted quite a few people who could afford to live anywhere.”

    bored identity’s other favorite Uncle, Old Ezra was also all around Italy during gli anni della guerra.

    Being an Imagist par excellence, Uncle Ezra had spent those years transmitting night and day his astral projections in the ether.

    Then, in May of 1945 he learned the hard way that, according to Morgenthau’s First Law of Purim-Dynamics, a Pound of flesh can travel from Pisa to Guantanamo in a New York minute :

    Uncle Ezra was almost sixty when – for the first and the last time in his life – he wished he wasn’t an American poet, but a German rocket scientist instead.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Tsk tsk. I'd thought you were better than Ezra; your comment is desperately wanting....
  47. @Alden
    For me, Shrew was spoiled by Richard Burton. I truly can’t stand him. He’s ugly and he’s not really an actor. He just stand there and does monologues in that awful fake royal academy of dramatic art voice. Best part was Liz’ hair styles

    I loved the movie and tried to ignore Burton. .

    Even in those war movies, Burton didn’t move much. Just declaimed.

    Shrew was spoiled by Richard Burton.

    You crazy, bro?

    I mean, who would you have put in his place?

    John Cleese?

  48. @Anonymous
    Endless Love? ... I'll take Tuff Turf.

    Zeffirelli was one of the most literal-minded directors ever. The Michael Bay of the arthouse.
    His La Traviata is shot with filters throughout because it's ROMANTIC. It's the dumbest way to make a movie. The only reason Taming of the Shrew sort of works is because Burton and Taylor steal the show from Zeff. It's like Fisher King is Gilliam's one of few watchable films because Bridges and Williams do enough to distract us from Gilliam's stupid theatrics.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-1mRjN7clY

    In *The Taming of the Shrew*, Zeffirelli let Liz & Dick strut their stuff – and strut their stuff they did.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    Taming of the Shrew made an interesting and very joyous counterpoint to the
    booze-soaked domestic Mutually Assured Destruction that Liz and Dick had put on film just 3 or 4 years earlier in Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
  49. @Anonymous

    I didn’t know until yesterday that Visconti was homosexual, as was Zefferelli. Is it a thing with Italian directors?
     
    Directors who tend to be obsessed with costumes and decor tend to be homo, though not always. At any rate, Visconti and Zefferelli were only aesthetic homos. There is the sensibility but not much in the way of message. It was more radical with Pasolini who however was not a homo activist.

    I don't think most other famous Italian directors were homo: De Sica, Rossellini, Fellini(though ambiguous), Antonioni, Olmi, Bertolucci, Bellocchio, Leone, Pontecorvo, Nanetti, Wertmuller(though I'm surprised she's not lesbian), Rosi, Corbucci, Monicelli, etc.

    And the great Italian-American directors weren't homo though Cimino began to act a bit strange in his final yrs.
  50. @vinteuil
    In *The Taming of the Shrew*, Zeffirelli let Liz & Dick strut their stuff - and strut their stuff they did.

    Taming of the Shrew made an interesting and very joyous counterpoint to the
    booze-soaked domestic Mutually Assured Destruction that Liz and Dick had put on film just 3 or 4 years earlier in Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?

  51. @Alden
    For me, Shrew was spoiled by Richard Burton. I truly can’t stand him. He’s ugly and he’s not really an actor. He just stand there and does monologues in that awful fake royal academy of dramatic art voice. Best part was Liz’ hair styles

    I loved the movie and tried to ignore Burton. .

    Even in those war movies, Burton didn’t move much. Just declaimed.

    Often true enough, your critique, but in his last role as Richard Wagner, he comes into his own.

    Watch it.

  52. @bored identity



    "...But Mussolini’s Italy attracted quite a few people who could afford to live anywhere."

     

    bored identity's other favorite Uncle, Old Ezra was also all around Italy during gli anni della guerra.

    Being an Imagist par excellence, Uncle Ezra had spent those years transmitting night and day his astral projections in the ether.

    Then, in May of 1945 he learned the hard way that, according to Morgenthau's First Law of Purim-Dynamics, a Pound of flesh can travel from Pisa to Guantanamo in a New York minute :


    https://publicism.info/biography/ezra_pound/ezra_pound.files/ximage009.jpg.pagespeed.ic.hO2qnK1VeC.jpg


    Uncle Ezra was almost sixty when - for the first and the last time in his life - he wished he wasn't an American poet, but a German rocket scientist instead.

    https://publicism.info/biography/ezra_pound/ezra_pound.files/image010.jpg

    Tsk tsk. I’d thought you were better than Ezra; your comment is desperately wanting….

    • Replies: @bored identity
    ....to turn you from bored identity to just another...Cagey Beast ?

    Tsk tsk.

    bored identity will remind you that Uncle Ezra was foremostly impounded for envisioning Rise of The Planet of The Current Year Apes; while Hanoi Jane had never been henhoused for being barbarellically fonda of buck-or-tooth-less-stinky-gooky-fatalistically-misogynistic extras from The Dear Hunter.

    What kind of Method Acting technique had reprogrammed Hank's daughter to worship those Mao-Tao human life disregarding, and Spike & Tom & Jerry's blackened bodies devouring peasants that - contrasting to Ezra's Eternal Romans - Have Never Done Anything For US ?



    https://cdn.themindcircle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/jane-fonda-in-hanoi-6.jpg


    Now, Autistchthon, please explain to bored identity why does some Klatch 22, or so, of unelected Whowhomersteins always have the final word while deciding which American has to be publicly bobbyfishered on the town square ?
  53. @Autochthon
    Tsk tsk. I'd thought you were better than Ezra; your comment is desperately wanting....

    ….to turn you from bored identity to just another…Cagey Beast ?

    Tsk tsk.

    bored identity will remind you that Uncle Ezra was foremostly impounded for envisioning Rise of The Planet of The Current Year Apes; while Hanoi Jane had never been henhoused for being barbarellically fonda of buck-or-tooth-less-stinky-gooky-fatalistically-misogynistic extras from The Dear Hunter.

    What kind of Method Acting technique had reprogrammed Hank’s daughter to worship those Mao-Tao human life disregarding, and Spike & Tom & Jerry’s blackened bodies devouring peasants that – contrasting to Ezra’s Eternal Romans – Have Never Done Anything For US ?

    Now, Autistchthon, please explain to bored identity why does some Klatch 22, or so, of unelected Whowhomersteins always have the final word while deciding which American has to be publicly bobbyfishered on the town square ?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    It was just an opportunistic joke about the name:

    https://youtu.be/v74yTy1UTuk
  54. @bored identity
    ....to turn you from bored identity to just another...Cagey Beast ?

    Tsk tsk.

    bored identity will remind you that Uncle Ezra was foremostly impounded for envisioning Rise of The Planet of The Current Year Apes; while Hanoi Jane had never been henhoused for being barbarellically fonda of buck-or-tooth-less-stinky-gooky-fatalistically-misogynistic extras from The Dear Hunter.

    What kind of Method Acting technique had reprogrammed Hank's daughter to worship those Mao-Tao human life disregarding, and Spike & Tom & Jerry's blackened bodies devouring peasants that - contrasting to Ezra's Eternal Romans - Have Never Done Anything For US ?



    https://cdn.themindcircle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/jane-fonda-in-hanoi-6.jpg


    Now, Autistchthon, please explain to bored identity why does some Klatch 22, or so, of unelected Whowhomersteins always have the final word while deciding which American has to be publicly bobbyfishered on the town square ?

    It was just an opportunistic joke about the name:

  55. Ooh,….yeah…?…

    ….well,blushingly bored identity totally knew that.

    In our interview with Better Than Ezra frontman Kevin Griffin, who wrote this song, he explained:

    “‘Desperately Wanting’ is a song where someone is looking back on their childhood. Specifically that song is about when I used to camp out with my friends in the summer down in the South, and you’d stay up all night causing havoc, throwing rocks at passing cars, knocking over mailboxes and vandalizing, as red-blooded men are wont to do.

    And literally, you’re running all through the neighborhood and through the yards, and there’s the dew on the grass. It was about those nights spent with a friend running around, running through the wet grass.”

    https://www.songfacts.com/facts/better-than-ezra/desperately-wanting

    “…better than Me ?!”

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