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Here’s a large scale exposition of contemporary Immigrant Supremacist thinking in Foreign Policy. Although it sounds as if it could be written by iSteve commenter Tiny Duck, it appears to be completely serious:

THIS LAND IS THEIR LAND

Immigration is inevitable. When will the West learn that it promises salvation — not destruction?

BY SUKETU MEHTA

Suketu Mehta is the author of Maximum City: Bombay Lost and Found

ILLUSTRATION BY OWEN FREEMAN

SEPTEMBER 12, 2017

Shouldn’t Foreign Policy have hustled and gotten this article about all the wonderfulness immigration does for America out a day sooner?

On Oct. 1, 1977, my parents, my two sisters, and I boarded a Lufthansa plane in the dead of night in Bombay. … We were going to America. …

For most of our history as a species, since we evolved from being hunter-gatherers to pastoralists, humans have not been attuned to the radical, continuous movement made possible by modernity. …

The signal challenge for the world’s richest countries in the 21st century is accommodation of a tremendously variegated influx of migrants. … You think 5 million Syrian refugees are a problem now? What happens when Bangladesh gets flooded and 18 million Bangladeshis have to seek dry land?

At the same time, there has been a dramatic rise in income inequality. Today, the eight richest individuals, all men, own more than does half of the planet, or 3.6 billion people, combined. The concentration of wealth also leads to a concentration of political power and the redirection of outrage against inequality away from the elites and toward the migrants. When the peasants come for the rich with pitchforks, the safest thing for the rich to do is to say, “Don’t blame us, blame them” — pointing to the newest, the weakest.

That’s why Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Carlos Slim, Michael Bloomberg, Tim Cook, the Koch Brothers, etc. are so anti-immigration.

… The West is being destroyed, not by migrants but by the fear of migrants. And yet the world’s richest countries can’t figure out what they want to do about migration; they want some migrants and not others.

Haven’t they heard of the Zeroth Amendment: No discrimination in who gets in!

In 2006, the Dutch government tried to make itself unattractive to potential Muslim and African migrants by creating a film, To the Netherlands, that included scenes of gay couples kissing and topless women sunbathing. The film was a study aid for a $433 compulsory entrance exam for people immigrating for family reunification. …

In 2011, the city of Gatineau, Quebec, published a “statement of values” for new immigrants that cautioned against “strong odors emanating from cooking,” which might offend Canadians. It also informed migrants that, in Canada, it was not OK to bribe city officials. …

How dare those vicious Canucks diss the time-honored customs of immigrants, customs that make their home countries so well-functioning they leave them?

… In Germany, the country’s “welcome culture” changed in one season, from that guilt-expiating September in 2015 to “rapist refugees go home” after the Cologne attacks that same New Year’s Eve.

Of all refugees, the most frightening is the womanless male migrant, his eyes hungrily scanning the exposed flesh of the white woman. The words the tabloids and right-wing politicians use to describe these Afghan or Moroccan men are similar to terminology used to describe black men in the United States in the early 20th century: as sex-hungry deviants.

As the Atlantic Monthly explained yesterday, even today feminists college anti-rape apparatchiks are actually white racists viciously persecuting innocent black male athletes for just being friendly and inviting their teammates to enjoy sloppy seconds.

In 1900, South Carolina Sen. Benjamin Tillman spoke from the U.S. Senate floor: “We have never believed him [the black man] to be the equal of the white man, and we will not submit to his gratifying his lust on our wives and daughters without lynching him.” Fast-forward to 2017: “Pro-rata, Sweden has taken more young male migrants than any other country in Europe,” said Nigel Farage, a British member of the European Parliament, in February. “And there has been a dramatic rise in sexual crime in Sweden — so much so that Malmo is now the rape capital of Europe.” …

… While it is true that there are horrific stories of organized rings of rapists with immigrant backgrounds — such as a group of Pakistanis in Rotherham, in the U.K., who groomed teenage girls for sex — there’s no evidence that immigrants overall rape or steal at rates higher than the general population. Mug shots of dark-skinned criminals, whether Moroccan or Mexican, somehow strike more terror in the Western imagination than those of homegrown white rapists. The fear is primal, tribal: They’re coming for our women.

Driven by this fear, voters are electing, in country after country, leaders who are doing incalculable long-term damage: Donald Trump in the United States, Viktor Orban in Hungary, Andrzej Duda and his Law and Justice party in Poland. It was fear of migrants that led British voters to vote for Brexit, the biggest own goal in the country’s history. The phobia of migrants can be the greatest threat to democracy.

“Democracy” being defined as Not Electing the Wrong People.

Look at Germany under Chancellor Angela Merkel, with its flourishing economy and democratic institutions,

For example, I’m sure you’ll remember the lengthy, serious debate in Germany from 2013 to 2015 over whether or not to let in a million Muslims? I mean, it wasn’t like the German Chancellor decided upon a whim to alter the demographic balance of Europe during summer vacation. Oh … that is what it was like?

Well, anyway, by definition, that is democracy for you!

… All hail Western civilization, which gave the world the genocide of the Native Americans, slavery, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, Hiroshima, and global warming. How hypocritical this whole debate about migration really is. The rich countries complain loudly about migration from the poor ones.

This is how the game was rigged: First they colonized us and stole our treasure and prevented us from building our industries. After plundering us for centuries, they left, having drawn up maps in ways that ensured permanent strife between our communities.

Then they brought us to their countries as “guest workers” — as if they knew what the word “guest” meant in our cultures — but discouraged us from bringing our families. Having built up their economies with our raw materials and our labor, they asked us to go back and were surprised when we did not.

… Now, again, they ask us not to come, desperate and starving though they have rendered us, because the richest among them need a scapegoat.

This is how the game is now rigged. In 2015, Shashi Tharoor, the former U.N. undersecretary-general for communications and public information, gave a compelling Oxford Union speech that made the case for (symbolic) reparations owed by Britain to India. “India’s share of the world economy when Britain arrived on its shores was 23 percent. By the time the British left, it was down to below 4 percent. Why?” he asked. “Simply because India had been governed for the benefit of Britain. Britain’s rise for 200 years was financed by its depredations in India.”

James Watt stole the blueprints for the steam engine from a Brahmin in Uttar Pradesh.

Tharoor’s speech reminded me of the time my grandfather was sitting in a park in suburban London. An elderly British man came up to him and wagged a finger at him. “Why are you here?” the man demanded. “Why are you in my country?” “We are the creditors,” responded my grandfather, who was born in India, spent his working years in Kenya, and was now retired in London. “You took all our wealth, our diamonds. Now we have come to collect.”

Boy, right now I’m really feeling like it would be a good idea to let in more of the Mehta family. It sounds like they have my best interests at heart.

… And so they will keep coming, in boats and on bicycles, whether you want them or not — because they are the creditors. Why are Mexicans, Guatemalans, Hondurans, and Salvadorans desperate to move north, to come to U.S. cities to work as dishwashers and cleaning ladies? It’s because Americans sell them guns and buy their drugs. Their homicide figures are indicative of a civil war. So they move to the cause of their misery; they, too, are the creditors.

If you don’t like them moving here, don’t buy drugs.

Maybe we should stop them coming here to sell us their drugs by building, you know, a Wall?

… The immigrant armada that is coming to your shores is actually a rescue fleet.

So Jean Raspail’s 1973 dystopian novel The Camp of the Saints was actually correct: except, you white people deserve it.

After this article, you can’t complain that our Globalist Elites didn’t tell us exactly how they felt about us and what they had in store for us.

By the way, there’s lots more where this came from. I encourage you to read the whole thing and circulate it around:

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/12/this-land-is-their-land-america-europe-fear-of-migrants-trump/

 

 
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  1. Suketu Mehta is a writer based in New York City. He was born in Kolkata, India, and raised in Mumbai where he lived until his family moved to the New York area in 1977.

    Suketu Mehta would like New York City to become like Bombay, the subject of his Maximum City: Bombay Lost and Found , a book that was a Pulitzer prize finalist.

    From the New York Times book review of Maximum City:

    “Why do people still live in Bombay?” Mehta asks in frustration. “Every day is an assault on the individual’s senses, from the time you get up, to the transport you take to go to work, to the offices you work in, to the forms of entertainment you are subjected to.” The literary landscape this description brings to mind is Dickens’s London. Take some 19th-century European urban blight, throw in a little tropical sea breeze, sex and Islamic terrorism and you have Mehta’s Bombay — a city in heat,” as he memorably calls it.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/21/books/review/maximum-city-bombay-confidential.html?mcubz=0

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    • Replies: @Return of Shawn
    The British uplifted India. I am against colonialism, but surely the British Empire did more good than not.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=sSnJSUU_7q0
    , @anon
    Well India, would have been better off had they let the white British stay. But Nationalist Ghandi, was full of fear and loathing of all things white immigrant, that he had them leave. The same goes for Africa. They are so full of fear of white migrants. I think it may be a world wide phenomenon.
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  2. eah says:

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    • Agree: SMK
    • Replies: @SMK
    Yes, a "white supremacist" and "racist" and "Nazi" is anyone who criticizes and disagrees with the left on issues of race and immigration or tells the truth about blacks and nonwhite aliens, legal and illegal. Any white person, that is.
    , @SMK
    And, to a lesser degree, respectable, mainstream "conservatives," especially "neocons," and most Republicans, most egregiously the likes of John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Paul Ryan, Jeff Flakes, and many others.
    , @eah
    https://twitter.com/WillBWindsor/status/908058096320241664
  3. guest says:

    Couldn’t they have them sailing into Ellis Island, or better yet Plymouth Rock?

    Instead, they’re on the warpath. Who are the people in that boat going to kill in their sleep? Me?

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    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
    They are off to leverage the plunder of one white nation to plunder the next. And this is their motivation, the picture doesn't show the jews directing the operation from the beachheads they established over the past centuries.
  4. Ivy says:

    Yasmin Bin Washington, or her cousin Emily Yoffe scarfed up, crossing the Delaware? Co-opt whatever imagery to serve the cause.

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  5. Mysteriously, Israel seems to have avoided this non-white immigrant supremacy. Israel is, for all practical purposes, a White nationalist ethnostate. If Jared Taylor or David Duke could create their own ideal country, it’d operate very similarly to Israel.

    Even more mysteriously, there seems to be massive overlap between pro-Israel intellectuals/politicians and pro-immigrant supremacists. I wonder how they reconcile support for a White nationalist homeland with their emphatic love of third word migration into Western countries.

    It’s all very mysterious. Maybe someday I’ll be able to figure this all out.

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    • Agree: Jus' Sayin'...
    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    A few years ago, Jews rioted in Israel.

    Jewish mobs roamed around, beating African migrant men and women.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yc7HBLnSdo

    Western leaders were very silent about this.

    Wonder why.
    , @AndrewR
    Mugabe's Zimbabwe is also a white nationalist ethnostate, if I'm following your logic. I suggest you check your premises.
    , @biz
    Japan and South Korea too. And Taiwan.

    There isn't some giant conspiracy to rub Israel in your face. If a country's populace really wants to control immigration, it can simply elect governments that will do so, and it will happen (unless hemmed in by EU rules). Israel, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan have all elected such governments, repeatedly. To an extent Australia has done so as well, for while they do have legal and high skill immigration, unlike countries in Europe they are very strict against anyone arriving outside of the rules.
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    I think "IH" is "Israeli Hasbara". I'm not sure what the "TG" remainder of the acronym might represent.
    , @Joe Franklin
    Israel is a protected class supremacist state.

    The primary shared value between all Jews (Secular, Conservative, Orthodox) is their protected class entitlement fetish.

    In Israel, only flavors of Jewish are a protected class.

    All Jewish have a general revulsion of all gentiles and a specific revulsion of all presumed Nazi and especially of white Christians.

    That's why Israel discriminates by law against it's Arab-Israeli citizens because they are gentile, and also why Israel recognizes no white Christian as a Israeli citizen.

    Israel also recognizes all diaspora Jews as Israeli citizens.

    Similarly, Jewish Americans push for all people in the world to have automatic US citizenship if they are not white Christians or Nazi or white supremacist.

    The US federal government recognizes all federal protected class groups as being entitled by federal law.

    Jewish-Americans encourage all protected class people to trade their votes for special government rights.




    .............................................................................................................................................................

    Feminist are federally entitled because of Male oppression
    Jewish are federally entitled because of Gentile oppression
    Queers are federally entitled because of Straight oppression
    Muslims are federally entitled because of Christian oppression
    Disabled are federally entitled because of Healthy oppression
    Afro-blacks are federally entitled because of White oppression
    Latinos are federally entitled because of Gringo oppression
    Hispanics are federally entitled because of Gringo oppression
    Military Veterans are federally entitled because of Militia oppression
    Native Americans are federally entitled because of Paleface oppression
    Asians are federally entitled because of Occidental oppression
    International Socialist are federally entitled because of Local Government oppression
    Social Justice Crony Capitalist are federally entitled because of Honest Businessmen oppression
    Zionist-Neocons are federally entitled because of Anti-Fascist oppression
  6. @JohnnyWalker123
    Mysteriously, Israel seems to have avoided this non-white immigrant supremacy. Israel is, for all practical purposes, a White nationalist ethnostate. If Jared Taylor or David Duke could create their own ideal country, it'd operate very similarly to Israel.

    Even more mysteriously, there seems to be massive overlap between pro-Israel intellectuals/politicians and pro-immigrant supremacists. I wonder how they reconcile support for a White nationalist homeland with their emphatic love of third word migration into Western countries.

    It's all very mysterious. Maybe someday I'll be able to figure this all out.

    A few years ago, Jews rioted in Israel.

    Jewish mobs roamed around, beating African migrant men and women.

    Western leaders were very silent about this.

    Wonder why.

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  7. MG says:

    What an embarrassing muddleheaded cretin, this fellow desi Mehta.

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    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Every tribe and tongue in the world has their embarrassments, my friend.
  8. CCZ says:

    I guess that this makes Woody Guthrie a deplorable xenophobe and those 3 or 4 Guthrie statues will need to be removed and his song re-written and re-recorded. Native born US population was 91.2% circa 1940 when he wrote “This Land Is Your Land.”

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  9. Whiskey says: • Website

    Essentially, Mehta is arguing for White Slavery. No not the sex kind though that too, but slavery of White men in serfdom to support the Third World. This is exactly as I predicted.

    Tiny Duck is always going on about how non-Whites don’t like me. I don’t care if they love or hate me — they will want to enslave me just the same. I want them to FEAR me. And I want their #1 enablers, White women, to fear me and every other White man the same.

    It is oh so better, in so many ways, to be feared than loved. You don’t see Africans migrating to Putin’s Russia now do you? Why?

    Africans are AFRAID of Russians. Its better to be poor and violent and so dangerous that everyone leaves you alone, than to be wealthy and loved. It is best of all to be rich and feared, but we are not Japan.

    I will note with interest that the paragon of virtue, India, had one of its leading anti-government and anti-Hindu nationalist journalists shot and killed by assassins.

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    • Replies: @Nico
    Pretty dangerous: remember Nero was killed in a palace coup after saying he wished only to be feared, not to be loved. The ideal is to be feared AND loved. Of course this squishy SJW let-everyone-in strategy is not the way forward. A few benevolent firing squads to disperse the unruly demanding crowds at a few key points should be sufficient, repeating as necessary every few months/years to make sure the message stays imprinted.

    Case in point: Donald Trump. While Islamic terrorist attacks continue to rage across the West, they have mysteriously stopped in the U.S. since Trump's election. And have never taken hold in Hungary, Czechia or Poland. Why? Simple: you don't hit people who demonstrate the means AND the will to retaliate. But the four aforementioned are scarcely as bloodthirsty as Rome of Old.
    , @anonymous
    They also incorporated the caste system. Which is hard to distinguish from garden variety apartheid.
    , @Peter Akuleyev

    You don’t see Africans migrating to Putin’s Russia now do you? Why?
     
    Actually you do, as this interesting article describes.

    https://www.gazeta.ru/social/2016/11/29/10385585.shtml

    Several thousand Africans show up every year. They aren't treated well, but they still keep coming. A flood this big is going to spill over. There appears to be a nice scam going in Africa where unscrupulous individuals convince hopeful Africans that they've been selected to play for a Russian pro soccer team. The young player just needs to pay $3000-$4000 to the broker for the visa and travel. Once they get to Russia they have no money to go home.

    Russia also seems to be getting lots of Nigerian women who come on work or student visas and are then forced into prostitution. Presumably replacing the Ukrainian and Moldovan prostitutes who have gone to the EU, and the Russian prostitutes who have gone to China.
    , @Anonymous
    Suketu Mehta hates Hindu nationalists just as much as he hates trump supporters. This is just a garden variety case of cosmopolitan liberal hating on the right wing everywhere.

    Check out Jagmeet Singh, the young Sikh man of Indian origin likely to become the head of the NDP in Canada. He hates the western right, sure, but he hates hates hates the Indian right so much more. He hates all of India, in fact. He moved a motion in the Canadian parliament to claim that India conducts genocides, and routinely bashes India there. He was denied a visa to India because he hobnobs with separatists and rebels.

    These people are just plain progressives. They have no loyalty to India and don't represent the mass of Hindus.
  10. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “We are the creditors,” responded my grandfather, who was born in India, spent his working years in Kenya, and was now retired in London. “You took all our wealth, our diamonds. Now we have come to collect.”

    Surprisingly common pro-immigration argument in Britain.

    While the immigrant bad cop finger-wags at you, the Becca Hellers of this world play good cop:

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/08/what-a-just-immigration-policy-doesnt-look-like-trump-daca/

    What a Just Immigration Policy Doesn’t Look Like
    By Becca Heller September 8, 2017

    … Immigration doesn’t have to be a partisan issue. We’ve allowed the rhetoric to become so polarized that many believe that there is a dichotomy between the working American in the Rust Belt trying to afford rising health insurance premiums and the immigrant trying to come over to seek a better opportunity, to contribute to America, or to flee persecution.

    What they want is essentially identical: to work hard and achieve happiness, safety, and security for themselves and their families. A founding premise of America is that this is a place for immigrants to come and start over.

    See, immigrants just want what you want! And totally not in a take it from you because you owe them kind of way. Mehta’s just bustin’ your balls. No, no — you people are all in this together, stronger together, working for a better future! Think bundles of sticks, not crabs in buckets.

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    What they want is essentially identical: to work hard and achieve happiness, safety, and security for themselves and their families. A founding premise of America is that this is a place for immigrants to come and start over.
     
    Funny. I don't remember reading that in the Constitution......


    Oh, wait. My mistake. I'm afraid that my copy lacks the Zeroth Amendment. Must be some kind of misprint......
    , @Jus' Sayin'...

    “We are the creditors,” responded my grandfather, who was born in India, spent his working years in Kenya, and was now retired in London. “You took all our wealth, our diamonds. Now we have come to collect.”
     
    And the response to that should be, "You'll be creditors when India and Pakistan ship back the infrastructure that Britons built and maintained for you, starting with the railroads, that in three-quarters of a century, India and Pakistan have not even managed to maintain in the state they were in when Britain gave them over." The truth is that the British Raj was a very expensive status symbol that Britons sweated blood to maintain for no very good reason. The biggest contribution India made to Britain was a steady supply of saltpeter for gunpowder during the Napoleonic wars. And perhaps opium with which to buy Chinese tea.
    , @Tex

    A founding premise of America is that this is a place for immigrants to come and start over.
     
    Weird, my high school history teacher taught me that immigrants came because the economy was usually expanding. Makes you wonder what happens in a stagnant economy. I guess she was stuck in the Beardian tradition.
    , @Forbes
    Speaking of immigration policy...remember the travel ban?

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/350373-supreme-court-lifts-restrictions-on-trump-travel-ban

    “The Supreme Court agreed late Tuesday to lift restrictions on President Trump’s travel ban until further notice, allowing the administration to continue barring most refugees under the ban. The court temporarily blocked a federal appeals court ruling that said the government cannot ban refugees that have formal assurances from resettlement agencies or are in the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program.”
  11. A few years ago, Obama said Israel should go back to its 1967 borders. Massive controversy ensued, during which both the Republican and Democratic parties broke with Obama and sided with Netanyahu.

    Even liberal Democratic rocker Gene Simmons was angry at Obama.

    I thought entertainers were liberal. I don’t know they could be so defensive of borders.

    Very strange.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    Tiresome.
    , @Bugg
    Simmons is not all that liberal. He was born Chaim Witz in Haifa, Israel. He has made a point of saying immigrant should assimilate, even if it means Americanizing their names and learning to speak unaccented English as he has.
    , @anonymous-antimarxist
    The only thing "liberal" about the anti-drug teetotaler Israeli born Gene Simmons are his rationalizations of his years spent banging intoxicated teenage groupies.

    Ever listen to Simmons pontificate??? He is an otherwise neo-con ultra-zionist globalist out to exploit America for whatever he can.
    , @Wall Builder
    Amazing that Gene Simmons, born Chaim Witz in Haifa, would turn out to be a supporter of Israel.
    , @Johann Ricke

    Even liberal Democratic rocker Gene Simmons was angry at Obama.
     
    Simmons isn't a liberal:

    I'm a very conservative foreign policy person. Fiscally, I'm very conservative. I don't believe in welfare states. I believe in giving people jobs. Most importantly, I believe I'm like most Americans, I'm socially liberal.

    America is the world's only hope for a bright future. Yes. I mean that. Yes, I know you live in another country and your country is cool, too. But, America is the only Superpower. There are no others. And that means, the world is a better place. Because if Nazi Germany or Communist Russia were the only superpowers, we would all be either dead or forced to live under their regimes. America is not interested in ruling your country. If you think it does, smoking crack may be your answer.

    I wasn't born here. But, I have a love for this country and its people that knows no bounds. I will forever be grateful to America for going into World War II, when it had nothing to gain, in a country that was far away...and rescued my Mother from the Nazi German Concentration Camps.

    She is alive and I am alive because of America. And, if you have a problem with America, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME.
     
  12. Bubba says:

    I’m about to die from irony poisoning. This virtue signaling clown comes from one of the most racist, 3rd world countries with one of the highest income inequality gaps and says the entire West is racist? Hmmm… what’s the Marathi word for “chutzpah”?

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    • Agree: NickG, Forbes, Clyde
    • Replies: @TheJester
    If I understand Suketu Mehta's argument, the West (a generic, wide-ranging concept that includes all Caucasians past, present, and future) looted India. Now, it's time for revenge. Immigrants have come to loot the West in return. With respect to Indians (having worked with them in IT and observed their corporate and social behaviors), I already knew that.

    The irony is that the immigrant looters are pressing moral arguments on us for open borders to make their looting quicker, easier, and more extensive via their overwhelming numbers. They are asking us to "cash out" our civilization and transfer its assets to them in the name of global equity and justice.

    Nothing succeeds like success! America has heard this same argument for decades from the American Civil Rights movement. Recall the start of the national "gibsmedat" program when Martin Luther changed his focus from legal equity to economic parity when he said,

    "Now our struggle is for genuine equality, which means economic equality. For we know that it isn't enough to integrate lunch counters. What does it profit a man to be able to eat at an integrated lunch counter if he doesn't earn enough money to buy a hamburger and a cup of coffee?"
    -- Martin Luther King
     
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eugene-robinson-mlks-call-for-economic-justice/2015/01/15/3599cb70-9cfe-11e4-96cc-e858eba91ced_story.html?utm_term=.dffb31696547

    Our new immigrants are doing nothing more than making this argument their own and taking it global. Recall that an appeal to equity and justice for past wrongs was the start of affirmative action, the offensive against disparate impacts and, when that didn't work, the suspension of belief required to open our borders and celebrate cultural diversity as a strength.

    How could we have foreseen that by buying into the tenets of the original Civil Rights movement that we would be sponsoring a festering social cancer that would ultimately destroy us?
    , @Harold
    http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/Lightbox/published/7/images/THUMB.jpg

    Don’t forget slavery. There are 20-30 million slaves in the world today. About half of them live in India.

    When I first heard this I thought the numbers would be inflated by some leftist definition of ‘slavery’. Looking into it I found that, no, it means slavery slavery.

    How come Whites are supposed to feel ashamed because their co-ethnics engaged in slavery centuries ago, but Indians are not supposed to be ashamed because their co-ethnics engage in slavery today?

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Modern_incidence_of_slavery.png/800px-Modern_incidence_of_slavery.png

  13. syonredux says:

    So much nonsense……

    Why are Mexicans, Guatemalans, Hondurans, and Salvadorans desperate to move north, to come to U.S. cities to work as dishwashers and cleaning ladies? It’s because Americans sell them guns and buy their drugs. Their homicide figures are indicative of a civil war. So they move to the cause of their misery; they, too, are the creditors.

    Actually, the homicide rate in Mexico was higher before the rise of the drug cartels:

    repetition of the mantra “this is the bloodiest era in the country’s history since the Mexican Revolution” (Analysis, 4 April) does not make it true. The Cristero (Catholic) insurgency of the late 1920s (ie after the revolution) generated homicide rates of 200 per 100,000 (the standard metric), compared to 24 per 100,000 in 2011; more significantly, the homicide rate in 1940 was 67 per 100,000; and even circa 1960 – when no revolts happened and the “Peace of the PRI” (the then ruling party) prevailed – it was higher than it is today.

    Alan Knight
    Professor of the history of Latin America, Oxford University

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/apr/10/mexico-murder-rate

    Why are Syrians moving? Not for the lights of Broadway or the springtime charms of Unter den Linden. It is because the West — particularly, the Americans and the British — invaded Iraq, an illegal and unnecessary war that exacerbated a four-year drought linked to global warming and set in motion the process that destroyed the entire region. They have reaped what the West has sown.

    We Deplorables have a pithier way of phrasing it: Invade the World, Invite the World.

    The Hudson is not foaming over with blood, either. “In the past decade, population growth, including immigration, has accounted for roughly half of the potential economic growth rate in the United States, compared with just one-sixth in Europe, and none in Japan,” the analyst Ruchir Sharma points out in the New York Times. “[I]f it weren’t for the boost from babies and immigrants, the United States economy would look much like those supposed laggards, Europe and Japan.”

    Countries that accept immigrants, like Canada, are doing better than countries that don’t, like Japan.

    Yet Japan still doesn’t wants large numbers of immigrants……Whatever could be wrong with them….

    . But whether Trump or May or Orban likes it or not, immigrants will keep coming, to pursue happiness and a better life for their children.

    How is it that the Japanese manage to keep them out……

    They will bring energy with them, for no one has more enterprise than someone who has left their distant home to make the difficult journey here, whether they’ve come legally or not.

    Everyone knows that Latinx Mestizos and Amerinds are natural entrepreneurs…..

    And given basic opportunities, they will be better behaved than the youth in the lands they move to, because immigrants in most countries have lower crime rates than the native-born.

    And, uh, don’t worry about the second and third generations…..I’m sure that they will be just as law-abiding….And if they aren’t, they don’t count…you know, because they aren’t immigrants and they are just reacting against racist conditions and stuff….

    They will create jobs.

    Let in a million Haitians, and they will create ten million jobs….

    They will cook and dance and write in new and exciting ways.

    What I’m trying to say is that immigrants are vibrant….

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    The Ruchir Sharma (born in Jaipur, India), head of emerging markets at Morgan Stanley Investment Management, quoted above has become a go-to guy for the WSJ and NYT. Needless to say, he's a cheerleader for the globalism that favors the wealthy elite, and presumably because he favors open borders. That the gains due to globalism does not accrue to the working and middle classes is something to which he is oblivious--itself, as unremarkable as it is common (to not notice) amongst those working in financial markets around the world.
  14. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    In 1900, South Carolina Sen. Benjamin Tillman spoke from the U.S. Senate floor: “We have never believed him [the black man] to be the equal of the white man, and we will not submit to his gratifying his lust on our wives and daughters without lynching him.” Fast-forward to 2017: “Pro-rata, Sweden has taken more young male migrants than any other country in Europe,” said Nigel Farage, a British member of the European Parliament, in February. “And there has been a dramatic rise in sexual crime in Sweden — so much so that Malmo is now the rape capital of Europe.”

    They always point out a stereotype’s hardiness throughout the ages as indicative of a vestigial unenlightened provenance rather than some kind of truth.

    Is there a phrase for this rhetorical technique?

    … Mug shots of dark-skinned criminals, whether Moroccan or Mexican, somehow strike more terror in the Western imagination than those of homegrown white rapists. The fear is primal, tribal: They’re coming for our women.

    White people exhibit primal, tribal behaviors when confronted with foreigners in their lands — such as the fear of Moroccans’ primal, tribal behaviors.

    Completely unwarranted, of course, because Moroccans definitely don’t exhibit primal, tribal behaviors when dropped into foreign lands (like Italy in 1944) — because that’s a vicious old stereotype (cf. Tillman 1900).

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    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    Today's Southerners don't have time for Senator Benjamin Tillman's prejudice.

    They want a bunch of black athletes to come to their alma matter Ole Miss and win the BCS Cup.

    It's not always "white guilt" or nobility that's leading to the downfall of the West. In many cases, it's ruinous entertainment obsession. I bet Tillman's descendants are cool with anyone who can help Ole Miss beat LSU. Football players are the real heroes.

    If you take down the Confederate statues, whatever. As long as they can tailgate at Ole Miss games, the "Sons of the South" will still be happy.
  15. syonredux says:
    @Anonymous

    “We are the creditors,” responded my grandfather, who was born in India, spent his working years in Kenya, and was now retired in London. “You took all our wealth, our diamonds. Now we have come to collect.”
     
    Surprisingly common pro-immigration argument in Britain.

    While the immigrant bad cop finger-wags at you, the Becca Hellers of this world play good cop:

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/08/what-a-just-immigration-policy-doesnt-look-like-trump-daca/

    What a Just Immigration Policy Doesn’t Look Like
    By Becca Heller September 8, 2017

    ... Immigration doesn’t have to be a partisan issue. We’ve allowed the rhetoric to become so polarized that many believe that there is a dichotomy between the working American in the Rust Belt trying to afford rising health insurance premiums and the immigrant trying to come over to seek a better opportunity, to contribute to America, or to flee persecution.

    What they want is essentially identical: to work hard and achieve happiness, safety, and security for themselves and their families. A founding premise of America is that this is a place for immigrants to come and start over.

     

    See, immigrants just want what you want! And totally not in a take it from you because you owe them kind of way. Mehta's just bustin' your balls. No, no -- you people are all in this together, stronger together, working for a better future! Think bundles of sticks, not crabs in buckets.

    What they want is essentially identical: to work hard and achieve happiness, safety, and security for themselves and their families. A founding premise of America is that this is a place for immigrants to come and start over.

    Funny. I don’t remember reading that in the Constitution……

    Oh, wait. My mistake. I’m afraid that my copy lacks the Zeroth Amendment. Must be some kind of misprint……

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    I find it--sadly, morbidly, excruciatingly--fascinating, an immigrant's tendency to lecture on the "founding premise of America"--as if they found a secret decoder ring in a box of Cheerios.
  16. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The immigrationists, The Economist, the political class always but always try to sell the notion of ‘voluntary’ ethnic cleansing – which , no doubt, is what uncontrolled third world immigration into the west actually is – as being not merely ‘desirable’ but also ‘inevitable and unavoidable’ (just like the force of gravity). All these notions are, as it happens, completely untrue.
    Such talk is invariably the province of the fanatic, the cultist, the propagandist, the irrational. It is, in fact, the ultimate in then ‘hard sell’ in which the ‘sales promoter’ has an enormous vested interest in his product – and self belief – but, deep down, not much confidence in the public’s desire to buy the product.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Murine pests, ie, mice and rats, exist in potentially enormous numbers wherever there is human habitation. In fact it is reasonable to say that their recent evolutionary history is tied up with the rise of agriculture with the storage of agricultural surplus in and around human habitation. Insect-like in their reproductive strategies, rodents are omnipresent around humans - hiding out in hidden places - but are capable, in the right circumstances of sudden, explosive exponential growth, to the potential of literally 'carpetting' the entirety of the floor area around human habitation, surprisingly quickly.

    Millennia ago, neolithic/bronze age humans hit on the strategem of keeping cats around their habitations to stop The Economist inevitable from actually occurring.
  17. Here’s the skinny version: ‘The West is soooooo evil. Now let us all in’.

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    • Replies: @Moses
    Reminds me of an oldie but a goodie from Steve:

    "The only thing worse than living in a country built by White racists is not being allowed to immigrate to a country built by White racists."

    Captures the immigripers perfectly.
  18. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Whiskey says blacks are afraid of Russians but much closer to home blacks are afraid of hispanics mostly Mexicans.

    SW blacks have mass emigrated to Atlanta because of fear. A strong black man can’t date a latina in LA without paying a physical price.

    That is the reality on the street. Hispanics used direct action against blacks and now Hispanics control the city. This is a more intense version of the situation in Miami. But the SW Hispanics are very different from Caribbean Hispanics and so there is no coexistence possible.

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    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    The Atlanta economy is driven by large multinational corps like Home Depot, UPS and Coca-Cola. The Atlanta-Fulton government also delivered a large amount of political patronage to blacks, the airport is the biggest example. It's also worthwhile to note that blacks like the Atlanta suburbs more than the gentrifying city, which is one of the few areas of the country to become whiter in the last 10 years.

    Blacks moved to the West Coast during WWII for war industry jobs, many of them in the long-gone shipyards and aircraft factories. Today's Hollywood and tech offer fewer blue-collar opportunities, and limited ability for AA quotas. In peacetime environments, pull factors usually always outweigh push factors.
    , @Jake
    Caribbean Hispanics have a good deal of black African blood, and Mexicans do not. Mexicans range from 100% American Indian to a few who are 100% white. Most are a mix of Indian and white. Culturally, there are significant differences between Caribbean Hispanics and Mexicans.
    , @cwhatfuture
    When the GOP primaries started, my wife told me that one of her elderly black patients had said she was planning to vote for Trump. When my wife asked why, the patient answered her in a single word: "Mexicans". She also contributed this: "You only think you are living in America. You're living in Mexico". My wife came home that day and told me she thought Trump could win.
  19. Mr. Anon says:

    For example, I’m sure you’ll remember the lengthy, serious debate in Germany from 2013 to 2015 over whether or not to let in a million Muslims? I mean, it wasn’t like the German Chancellor decided upon a whim to alter the demographic balance of Europe during summer vacation. Oh … that is what it was like?

    Well, anyway, by definition, that is democracy for you!

    Democracy is too important to be left to the people.

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  20. Tyrion says:

    There is no point in debunking this article. If there is a bad thing that has befallen non-white people, Mr Mehta will assert that it befell them due to the disgusting crimes of white people. Which makes the following quite really quite poignant.

    It is every migrant’s dream to see the tables turned

    Ressentiment-based hatred is all in the feels. Mr Mehta has a chip on his shoulder. The nicer you are to him the worse it will get. He will see niceness as condescending, or worse, as evidence that he was right all along and that you are surrendering to his psycho-drama’s logic.

    Indeed any strongly emotional reaction to an article like this will just confirm the validity of the authour’s ressentiment in his own head.

    It isn’t about the conclusions he draws from the smattering of facts in his article. He knows he could draw them in any direction. It is merely about him seeking to bring low what he perceives as thinking itself high.

    You need to cooly name what is driving him. Hence me saying he has an almighty chip on his shoulder/a bad case of the ressentiments.

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  21. yyrvjh says:

    A great deal of what’s been happening these past few decades can be summed up in a pithy formulation by Richard Lindzen, emeritus professor of climate science (MIT):

    Redistributing wealth from the first world’s poor to the third world’s rich.

    He was referring to the “catastrophic man-made global warming” hysteria and the various boondoggles that have sprung up in its wake, but could just as well have referred to Mr. Mehta’s family — surely not indigent — paying full airfare to fly Lufthansa from Bombay to New York. Early forerunners of the millions of economic migrants paying people smugglers $5,000 and up to move to western welfare states, cutting ahead in line of needy natives for subsidized housing, health care and jobs. The wealthier ones pay corrupt officials $20,000 for genuine visas and travel in comfort and style. (The rich ones have no reason to leave, they stay and keep enjoying their lifestyle, supplemented by western foreign aid.)

    What’s shocking is not the undisguised contempt and greed on display here, it’s the all-too-frequent complacent willingness of westerners to nod along with the outrageous claims. Just try to explain, in the simplest terms, that money does not grow on trees, and that what gets paid out to the gate-crashers cannot be paid to citizens. The lightbulb does NOT go on! “Hey, we threw billions out of the window to bail out the banks, we can afford to pay for many more refugees!” Nods all around from the other morons.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Bingo. I had this realization a couple years ago.

    A cute Chinese girl came to my door asking me to "sponsor" a poor kid in Mexico for 30 bucks/month. I initially agreed but then got to thinking: Mexico's population is about 125 million. Let's estimate extremely liberally that there are 15 million children in Mexico living in destitution (the real number is likely less than half of that). Carlos "Slim" Salim ALONE could literally afford to give each one of them 30 dollars a month for over ten years. But of course, he has made his wealth in large part from overcharging poor Mexicans for the services under his control. So why not hit working class Americans up for donations to support poor Mexicans (don't worry, gabacho: it's tax deductible!!!), all while supporting limitless Mexican migration to the US?

    And that's just Salim. The combined net worth of the Mexican 0.1% is probably at least three trillion dollars.

    I called the organization that day and cancelled my donation, guilt free. It's not my moral responsibility to subsidize Mexican plutocrats.

  22. There are 3 factors behind the pro-immigration mania.

    1. Oligarchic economic interests (agribusiness, Silicon Valley, meatpackers, real estate developers, investors, etc.) want a growing population of workers and consumers. It’s good for their bottom line. So they’re naturally pro-migration. Many of the strongest immigration boosters are real estate developers from politically conservative, pro-business regions like SoCal, Atlanta, and Texas. Since oligarchs run the government and literally own the media, they get what they want.

    2. Modern day Americans care very little for their national identity, their people’s history, or their nation’s future. They’re mostly concerned with making money, consumerism, and entertainment (sports, tv, social media, celebrities, music). They want to get rich, buy lots of stuff, go to NFL games, and brag about all of that on social media. There’s a reason why hardly anybody in this country is aware of the H-1b visa, but everybody seems to be an expert on what it takes to win the BCS Championship game. Americans are, unfortunately, a frivolous people. Very few Americans know or care what Mehta wrote, but everybody cares about Beyoncé’s newest rap video and the latest IPhone. The mobs of Rome mostly focused on chariots and games, while their rulers looted the empire and allowed the Germanic barbarians to encroach. Are today’s entertainment-crazed Americans really much different?

    3. There are an enormous number of hyper resentful Jews who seem to have an eternal axe to grind with the white gentiles. Since Jews run a lot of the media (and a lot of institutions), their fervently anti-gentile views tend to be reflected in newspapers, magazines, and on tv. Even non-Jews get into the game of denouncing whites. Why? Ambitious status-striving careerists (such as Mehta) know that if they want to rise in their profession, they must please their masters. That means mouthing whatever ideology is being propagated by the (((inner party))). If he lived back in 80s era Russia, Mehta probably would’ve been a huge advocate for Communist economic policy. If he lived back in Medeival Europe, Mehta probably would’ve constantly defended the infalliblity of Church authorities. Lots of people are atomized status-strivers who’ll say anything to please the ruling class. Since the Western ruling class these days is Jewish, you got to embrace their prejudices to get ahead.

    By the way, I’ve noticed a lot of South Asians (Indians, Pakis) rising in politics, media, and sitcoms/movies these days. Most especially, South Asian women.

    South Asians seem like an ethnic group who are clever, articulate, education-oriented, full of Tiger families, status-striving, prone to feminism, and unprincipled. So they’re probably well situated to succeed in today’s America.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Why can't it be as simple as tribes coveting another's land and other resources?
    , @yyrvjh

    3. There are an enormous number of hyper resentful Jews who seem to have an eternal axe to grind with the white gentiles. Since Jews run a lot of the media (and a lot of institutions), their fervently anti-gentile views tend to be reflected in newspapers, magazines, and on tv. Even non-Jews get into the game of denouncing whites. Why? Ambitious status-striving careerists (such as Mehta) know that if they want to rise in their profession, they must please their masters. That means mouthing whatever ideology is being propagated by the (((inner party))). If he lived back in 80s era Russia, Mehta probably would’ve been a huge advocate for Communist economic policy. If he lived back in Medeival Europe, Mehta probably would’ve constantly defended the infalliblity of Church authorities. Lots of people are atomized status-strivers who’ll say anything to please the ruling class. Since the Western ruling class these days is Jewish, you got to embrace their prejudices to get ahead.


     

    Yes, that claim is part of the Sailer Doctrine. It is also believed by many paleoconservatives and nearly everyone on the "Alt-Right". But what if it isn't true? What if Jewish support for open borders tracked closely their representation in the urban upper middle class (what used to be called "Yuppies", except they're no longer all young), which is among the principal advocates and beneficiaries of open borders? (Note the complete absence of Catholics and mainline Protestants from your list, though vastly more numerous.)

    What if the people calling the shots in the media are the advertisers -- corporations making consumer products, always hungry for GDP growth -- not the journalists? What if journalism is actually a lousy job that not so many besides the left half of the Jewish bell curve can and will do for the pay?

    What if your (and Steve's) belief that Jews are the ruling elite is a paranoid fantasy unsupported by hard data and statistics?

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    I give you the 'Greatest American Hero:'

    http://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/abc-confirms-greatest-american-hero-reboot-with-an-indian-american/article_9ed874c0-97f0-11e7-bc06-f7d66f341093.html
    , @Bill
    I think 2 is really 1 in drag. Those same oligarchs have worked, long and hard, to turn Americans into the atomized, consumerist, a-cultural zombies they are today.
  23. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    So Adam Carolla is finally speaking truth about the Mexican invasion of SoCal. I suppose this is helpful as a warning to the heartland but otherwise it’s just too little too late. Way too late.

    We can’t get America back until we are willing to do the things we’ve been unwilling to do up to this point.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/09/magic-dirt-fail-in-la.html

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  24. @JohnnyWalker123
    There are 3 factors behind the pro-immigration mania.

    1. Oligarchic economic interests (agribusiness, Silicon Valley, meatpackers, real estate developers, investors, etc.) want a growing population of workers and consumers. It's good for their bottom line. So they're naturally pro-migration. Many of the strongest immigration boosters are real estate developers from politically conservative, pro-business regions like SoCal, Atlanta, and Texas. Since oligarchs run the government and literally own the media, they get what they want.

    2. Modern day Americans care very little for their national identity, their people's history, or their nation's future. They're mostly concerned with making money, consumerism, and entertainment (sports, tv, social media, celebrities, music). They want to get rich, buy lots of stuff, go to NFL games, and brag about all of that on social media. There's a reason why hardly anybody in this country is aware of the H-1b visa, but everybody seems to be an expert on what it takes to win the BCS Championship game. Americans are, unfortunately, a frivolous people. Very few Americans know or care what Mehta wrote, but everybody cares about Beyoncé's newest rap video and the latest IPhone. The mobs of Rome mostly focused on chariots and games, while their rulers looted the empire and allowed the Germanic barbarians to encroach. Are today's entertainment-crazed Americans really much different?

    3. There are an enormous number of hyper resentful Jews who seem to have an eternal axe to grind with the white gentiles. Since Jews run a lot of the media (and a lot of institutions), their fervently anti-gentile views tend to be reflected in newspapers, magazines, and on tv. Even non-Jews get into the game of denouncing whites. Why? Ambitious status-striving careerists (such as Mehta) know that if they want to rise in their profession, they must please their masters. That means mouthing whatever ideology is being propagated by the (((inner party))). If he lived back in 80s era Russia, Mehta probably would've been a huge advocate for Communist economic policy. If he lived back in Medeival Europe, Mehta probably would've constantly defended the infalliblity of Church authorities. Lots of people are atomized status-strivers who'll say anything to please the ruling class. Since the Western ruling class these days is Jewish, you got to embrace their prejudices to get ahead.

    By the way, I've noticed a lot of South Asians (Indians, Pakis) rising in politics, media, and sitcoms/movies these days. Most especially, South Asian women.

    South Asians seem like an ethnic group who are clever, articulate, education-oriented, full of Tiger families, status-striving, prone to feminism, and unprincipled. So they're probably well situated to succeed in today's America.

    Why can’t it be as simple as tribes coveting another’s land and other resources?

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  25. Mr. Anon says:

    I used to have, overall, a rather favorable impression of Indians. Now………not so much.

    Indians like Suketu Mehta (to say nothing of the foul-mouthed thieves who cold-call my phone, claming to be from “IRS”) are the reason why.

    Just what this country needs – yet another perpetually agrieved minority group, who wants to lecture me and mine about “who we are”.

    There is no “we”. Suketu Mehta is not part of any “we” that I recognize. He can go f**k himself sideways.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    I've observed that subcons (India and Pakistan) possess some of the most jealous, hateful, and vicious attitudes toward Whites of all immigrant groups.
    , @Anonymous
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/opinion/can-bal-keshav-thackeray-bombay-strongman-explain-trump.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=1&referer=

    Don't judge all of us by Suketu Mehta. He's just another cosmopolitan liberal. As is Shashi tharoor, whom he references in the article.

    Both of them are associated with the left wing in India, and spare no opportunity to bash Hindu nationalists. As you can see from the article I've linked, he very clearly equates Hindu nationalists to Trump supporters.
    , @anon
    More and more Indian women are running for local and state offices in my state(WA), every single one of them is running as a Democrat, and espousing the most leftist of views including endless calls for more diversity and multiculturalism.

    Indians are the last people we should import more of. At least the Latinos waited until they are 16% of the population to start running for office. The Indians are barely over 1% and they are already getting into our politics. They are the Jews' new favorite puppets.
  26. Lot says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    A few years ago, Obama said Israel should go back to its 1967 borders. Massive controversy ensued, during which both the Republican and Democratic parties broke with Obama and sided with Netanyahu.

    Even liberal Democratic rocker Gene Simmons was angry at Obama.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YK7UGytvs8

    I thought entertainers were liberal. I don't know they could be so defensive of borders.

    Very strange.

    Tiresome.

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  27. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    The immigrationists, The Economist, the political class always but always try to sell the notion of 'voluntary' ethnic cleansing - which , no doubt, is what uncontrolled third world immigration into the west actually is - as being not merely 'desirable' but also 'inevitable and unavoidable' (just like the force of gravity). All these notions are, as it happens, completely untrue.
    Such talk is invariably the province of the fanatic, the cultist, the propagandist, the irrational. It is, in fact, the ultimate in then 'hard sell' in which the 'sales promoter' has an enormous vested interest in his product - and self belief - but, deep down, not much confidence in the public's desire to buy the product.

    Murine pests, ie, mice and rats, exist in potentially enormous numbers wherever there is human habitation. In fact it is reasonable to say that their recent evolutionary history is tied up with the rise of agriculture with the storage of agricultural surplus in and around human habitation. Insect-like in their reproductive strategies, rodents are omnipresent around humans – hiding out in hidden places – but are capable, in the right circumstances of sudden, explosive exponential growth, to the potential of literally ‘carpetting’ the entirety of the floor area around human habitation, surprisingly quickly.

    Millennia ago, neolithic/bronze age humans hit on the strategem of keeping cats around their habitations to stop The Economist inevitable from actually occurring.

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  28. @Anonymous

    In 1900, South Carolina Sen. Benjamin Tillman spoke from the U.S. Senate floor: “We have never believed him [the black man] to be the equal of the white man, and we will not submit to his gratifying his lust on our wives and daughters without lynching him.” Fast-forward to 2017: “Pro-rata, Sweden has taken more young male migrants than any other country in Europe,” said Nigel Farage, a British member of the European Parliament, in February. “And there has been a dramatic rise in sexual crime in Sweden — so much so that Malmo is now the rape capital of Europe.”
     
    They always point out a stereotype's hardiness throughout the ages as indicative of a vestigial unenlightened provenance rather than some kind of truth.

    Is there a phrase for this rhetorical technique?


    ... Mug shots of dark-skinned criminals, whether Moroccan or Mexican, somehow strike more terror in the Western imagination than those of homegrown white rapists. The fear is primal, tribal: They’re coming for our women.
     
    White people exhibit primal, tribal behaviors when confronted with foreigners in their lands -- such as the fear of Moroccans' primal, tribal behaviors.

    Completely unwarranted, of course, because Moroccans definitely don't exhibit primal, tribal behaviors when dropped into foreign lands (like Italy in 1944) -- because that's a vicious old stereotype (cf. Tillman 1900).

    Today’s Southerners don’t have time for Senator Benjamin Tillman’s prejudice.

    They want a bunch of black athletes to come to their alma matter Ole Miss and win the BCS Cup.

    It’s not always “white guilt” or nobility that’s leading to the downfall of the West. In many cases, it’s ruinous entertainment obsession. I bet Tillman’s descendants are cool with anyone who can help Ole Miss beat LSU. Football players are the real heroes.

    If you take down the Confederate statues, whatever. As long as they can tailgate at Ole Miss games, the “Sons of the South” will still be happy.

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    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Rod1963
    Organized professional sports is nothing but bread and circuses.

    It is designed to focus the emotional and intellectual energy of the proles into something useless while they get raped by the boss class. You ever wonder why whites don't seem to have the focus or energy to notice they're being screwed over?

    Part of the answer is organized sports. Sit back and watch the crowd(not the game that's for suckers) watch the level of emotional intensity - it's way up there. It's like a drug, you get this high off it. It's also a social thing and allows for male bonding, etc. But all of it is directed to your team. You identify with them. Their success is your success.

    It's the Roman bread and circuses for the 21st century.

    , @Stan d Mute

    If you take down the Confederate statues, whatever. As long as they can tailgate at Ole Miss games, the “Sons of the South” will still be happy.
     
    Not just Southerners, look at all Ag. Farmers are the biggest welfare queens in America. Look at Nebraska, Iowa, and Kansas. Proud American farmers, the salt of the earth and all that, worshipping African idols and collecting billions in welfare while proudly proclaiming their patriotism and independence.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Today’s Southerners don’t have time for Senator Benjamin Tillman’s prejudice.

    They want a bunch of black athletes to come to their alma matter Ole Miss and win the BCS Cup.
     
    Remind them that football, like basketball, was invented by Canadians in Massachusetts.
  29. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I’m sick and tired of pundits pontificating that brexit is the ‘biggest own goal’ Britain has scored.
    Just one fact: The UK’s average economic growth rate in the decades preceding to EU accession in 1973 was higher than after 1973.

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    • Replies: @Wilkey
    I’m sick and tired of pundits pontificating that brexit is the ‘biggest own goal’ Britain has scored.
    Just one fact: The UK’s average economic growth rate in the decades preceding to EU accession in 1973 was higher than after 1973.


    And countries with high rates of immigration don't have faster GDP growth rates than those with low rates of immigration. But somehow immigration boosts the economy.
    , @AndrewR
    Yeah that line was stupid but I forgot about it because virtually every line in that street shitter's screed was outrageous.

    I'd say the biggest own-goal in British history was siding with the Soviets and insisting on unconditional surrender of the Germans. The survival of the Third Reich may not have been ideal for the UK but it's hard to imagine that the UK would be so far along in the process of national self-destruction as they are now.
  30. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Is this guy Varad Mehta’s brother? Varad had one of the better extemporaneous threads on Charlottesville.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Hard to tell whether his advice is not essentially, "Be less vocal and conspicuous about our replacing white people, until their numbers are smaller."
  31. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    This is the essentially the indian version of the “it’s for your own good that were doing this, goy” argument. There’s no attempt to be intellectually honest whatsoever: the arguments keep changing, but the conclusion/recommendation always stays the same.

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  32. @Dave Pinsen
    Is this guy Varad Mehta's brother? Varad had one of the better extemporaneous threads on Charlottesville.
    https://twitter.com/varadmehta/status/896503788349132800

    Hard to tell whether his advice is not essentially, “Be less vocal and conspicuous about our replacing white people, until their numbers are smaller.”

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  33. Wilkey says:

    All hail Western civilization, which gave the world the genocide of the Native Americans, slavery, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, Hiroshima, and global warming. How hypocritical this whole debate about migration really is. The rich countries complain loudly about migration from the poor ones.

    It’s funny how all Westerners are guilty of everything that’s happened in all Western countries for all of history (even when our countries fought those evils, like the US and UK fought the Holocaust) but Third Worlders aren’t guilty of shit happening in their countries today.

    BTW, the evil destruction of Hiroshima was only possible thanks to immigrants. Are we supposed to thank them or blame them?

    This is how the game was rigged: First they colonized us and stole our treasure and prevented us from building our industries. After plundering us for centuries, they left, having drawn up maps in ways that ensured permanent strife between our communities.

    Wait, wait, wait! “We” drew up maps guaranteeing them diversity! Diversity is a blessing!

    … Now, again, they ask us not to come, desperate and starving though they have rendered us, because the richest among them need a scapegoat.

    The richest among us want more and more of you, because the rich need their serfs. If you really want to piss off the rich then don’t come here.

    the former U.N. undersecretary-general for communications and public information, gave a compelling Oxford Union speech that made the case for (symbolic) reparations owed by Britain to India. “India’s share of the world economy when Britain arrived on its shores was 23 percent. By the time the British left, it was down to below 4 percent. Why?” he asked. “Simply because India had been governed for the benefit of Britain. Britain’s rise for 200 years was financed by its depredations in India.”

    In 1617, when the British arrived in India, Isaac Newton was still 25 years from being born. By the time they left 330 years later British scientists and engineers had revolutionized, well, pretty much everything. What had India done? Would it have done much more than that if the British had never arrived?

    It’s not that India’s economy shrank during those 330 years. It’s that the rest of the world’s economy grew massively. Take two countries with economies of equal size. Country A grows at 3% per year and Country B grows at 4% per year. After 330 years County B’s economy will be more than 24 times larger than that of Country A.

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    ...genocide of the Native Americans, slavery, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, Hiroshima, and global warming.
     
    The whole premise is wrong.

    The American Indians were tribesmen who were killing and sometimes even eating each other before our people got here. They routinely fought each other and took territory; our ancestors just comprised another tribe that entered the game and ended up winning the whole thing. That game has been going on all over the Earth as long as there have been people.

    Slavery definitely was NOT created by Western Civilization! I wonder how many of today's "educated" children even understand this. Apparently not Suketu Mehta.

    Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not even as bad as all the firebombing we did...so those are bad examples but popular choices for lazy pop writers.

    The Earth's climate has ALWAYS changed and always will, no matter what mankind does. No one has to prove that things are warming up; they have been since the last ice age. The thing to do is to prepare our descendants for the inevitable changes. You do that with the tools of the modern world created by Western Civilization, not by destroying and denying the ascendancy of that very civilization which might end up being the salvation of mankind.

    , @Altai
    My favourite part is how slowly the likes of Finland, Ireland, Iceland, Norway and the Baltics are now also guilty, revealing that the resentment is racial. They have pale skin and light coloured eyes so they're also guilty of colonialism! Poland, too, has seemingly spent all the victim points it built up in the 20th century, or so the NYT informs me.

    Nazism too, is now the fault of all the Christian gentiles, still more the fault of Germany, but implicitly that is the direction we've been moving in, it's fascinating in a way.

    Wait til the ignorant writers at the NYT realise Southern Europeans aren't as dusky as they infer from their hispanic maids.

    , @11 Bravo

    It’s not that India’s economy shrank during those 330 years. It’s that the rest of the world’s economy grew massively.
     
    Yes, a similar analogy would be the demographic shift in the US population. In 1940 the USA had 140 million people of which about 85 percent were European. So there were approximately 119 million whites in the USA in 1940.

    Today the USA has over 190 million whites. There are in fact more white Americans today than at any time in our history. Yet the white percentage has gone from at least 85 percent down to 63 percent and falling.
  34. @Mr. Anon
    I used to have, overall, a rather favorable impression of Indians. Now.........not so much.

    Indians like Suketu Mehta (to say nothing of the foul-mouthed thieves who cold-call my phone, claming to be from "IRS") are the reason why.

    Just what this country needs - yet another perpetually agrieved minority group, who wants to lecture me and mine about "who we are".

    There is no "we". Suketu Mehta is not part of any "we" that I recognize. He can go f**k himself sideways.

    I’ve observed that subcons (India and Pakistan) possess some of the most jealous, hateful, and vicious attitudes toward Whites of all immigrant groups.

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    • Replies: @Tyrion

    I’ve observed that subcons (India and Pakistan) possess some of the most jealous, hateful, and vicious attitudes toward Whites of all immigrant groups
     
    Absolutely. It is the aesthetics that generate such an emotional response. Go to Africa and you will find, given the resources and ignoring rituals connected to superstitious beliefs, that Africans are significantly more hygienic than Europeans. Bantus are a clean collection of peoples.

    Go to India and you will find a putrefying mess. The low level of hygiene is disgusting and exceptionally shaming for an American subcon returning to the homeland. You can go to undeveloped (sic) countries in Africa and not get ill. India not so much.

    This emotional self-disgust often gets turned outwards. As Mehta's paragraph below highlights! He knows that where South Asians goes so to go instant South Asian slums, and when Hungarian 'golden children' make a tent city it is a heavenly festival of music and fun. He knows the connection...it just shames him. So he needs to find a way to shame those children back. Hungarian sentiment meet Subcon ressentiment.

    A woman told us which road to take to the “Pakistani camp.” We rattled down a rutted road by the superhighway and came up to the camp. It was an instant South Asian slum, but with backpacking tents instead of plastic sheets, just like the Sziget music festival I’d just come from. The festival had been filled with golden children, the flowers of white Europe, who, on payment of the $363-per-person entry fee, could luxuriate in their own tent city for a week.

    Otoh, there are plenty of pretty cool subcons. Including some great ones in UK politics. And US politics it seems.

    , @Cagey Beast
    They are also the most pushy and presumptuous immigrants. Even before they can properly pronounce the word, they're talking about how "vee Americans" or "vee Canadians" are not doing enough to welcome immigrants.
    , @AndrewR
    I've never studied this deeply but I think the men are worse, in no small part due to the fact that subcontinental men are arguably at the absolute bottom of the sexual desirability hierarchy in Anglo countries. We see a similar dynamic with many men of East Asian heritage. When even your own women tend to prefer other groups' men over your own men, it's not hard to see how this sexual frustration can manifest itself in this sort of unhinged hatred towards the dominant group.

    I would pity guys like this writer if they weren't given prestigious platforms and held up by the elites as our moral superiors.
    , @Joe Schmoe

    I’ve observed that subcons (India and Pakistan) possess some of the most jealous, hateful, and vicious attitudes toward Whites of all immigrant groups.
     
    I wonder if that is due to whites having the light skin that is so prized in their culture but a non-issue to whites. We just have white skin. It just is. We don't really care that much about it. To them it is a big big deal to have light skin, and we just have it, both the clever and the dull, the high and the low. I know some light skinned Indians and they are all, every last one, married to other light skinned Indians.
  35. Wilkey says:

    What’s revealing is the number of these rants we’re now starting to see from journalists and “academics” with names like, well, Suketu Mehta. It feels like I’ve read hundreds since Trump was elected.

    Once upon a time immigrants used to change their last names to make themselves appear to be more American (and to sincerely or otherwise) allay any doubts of their loyalty to this country. Nowadays they don’t even bother to change their first names. An immigrant with no intention of assimilating to their new country – who adopts no customs or practices from his new country except for those which help him to make money – isn’t an immigrant, he’s an invader.

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    > An immigrant with no intention of assimilating to their new country... isn’t an immigrant, he’s an invader.

    No, Suketu Mehta is a one-man Hate Group.
    , @Forbes
    Exactly.
  36. Yan Shen says:

    In general I support nationalism and for the most part disagree with Mr. Mehta’s arguments. I wonder though if his comments about the colonization of India have some merit.

    When you invade the world, you create a chain of chaos that inevitably leads to inadvertently inviting the world as well. Just think of all the refugee situations that have been created by America bombing the shit out of whatever god forsaken countries in this world.

    On the other hand, modern day China or Japan for the most part pursue policies of political non-interference and a focus on narrow national interests.

    Maybe this requires a bargain on both sides? Don’t invade the world and don’t invite the world. And if you invaded some place in the past, at least be cognizant of that when having a conversation about modern day nationalism.

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    Imagine thinking that the Chinese and Japanese have never invaded anyone.
    , @ChrisZ
    Yan, this seems to be a lesson, or warning, undergirding the "reactionary" British literature of the late 19th century.

    For example, the imperial/colonial experience of the elder generation stands in the background of quite a few of Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes stories. Conquest is a two-way door: England projects its power outward, but the passions and irrationalities of the outer empire migrate to the center. Initially these are unnoticed among the millions of the imperial city, but eventually they erupt again as crime.

    It takes a supreme "noticer" like Holmes to expose the basis of these crimes and bring relief to the lives of his mostly middle-class clientele. (In Doyle's day, "noticing" itself was not yet a crime.) It occurs to me that his very name--Sure-lock Homes--could be a metaphor for border security.

    In any case the lesson you rightly observe is an old one, and it appears we were given ample warning.
    , @guest
    "When you invade the world, you create a chain of chaos that inevitably leads to inadvertently inviting the world"

    Malarkey. That isn't happening with China or Japan, as you may notice. The West isn't the only portion of the world that built empires, and though it took in people from all over the world before, it didn't contract suicidal "invade the world" mania until relatively recently. In many cases after it countries stopped invading the world. Not the U.S., of course.

    What is the necessary connection I'm missing. I can see how Invade the World makes the invading country morally, economically and physically weak, but not why they should just give up. They don't have to grow *that* weak. I can see why the would-be invited would petition for an invitation on the basis of previous invasion. But we don't have to listen to them. Certainly there's no inescapable causation involved.

    If they come over without invitation, motivated by previous invasion, we can kill them here instead of there. All that's required is the will. Invade the World doesn't inevitably suck away our will.

    Furthermore, colonialism and imperialism didn't cause chaos everywhere. It instituted order and brought civilization, as well. Most everywhere it touched would've had chaos anyway. Especially Africa.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    I think almost everyone on iSteve is against Invade/Invite. However, it's an open question whether it is really the kind of relationships the US has with foreign countries that is the main factor in our immigration problem.

    There are examples of times when US foreign policy seems to have led directly to immigration. For example, the US experienced increased Vietnamese immigration during and after the Vietnam War.

    On the other hand, we caused a shitstorm in Libya, and we have almost no Libyan immigrants.

    From North Africa, the vast majority of immigrants are from Egypt, and they are mostly refugees of religious persecution or economic migrants. The US did not foment any chaos that led them to come.

    In the Middle East, there are a large number of Iraqi refugees displaced by our foreign adventurism there, but they are mostly located in other places in the ME. The ones who have come to the US have mostly come via UN resettlement programs.

    And our most notorious immigrants, the stabby Somalis, have also been displaced by war, but not war for which the US is responsible.

    I think the conclusion to be drawn from these examples is that there is not really a line of causation going from Invade to Invite. Immigration is a matter of domestic policy, not foreign policy, and the decision to emigrate to the US is prompted by factors other than simply whether the US is mucking around in another country's internal affairs.

    And I'm guessing the biggest factors affecting that decision are simple opportunity and bandwagon effect. The majority of Mexicans coming north come because they can just walk across the border. Our domestic policy makes it easy for them to come and stay, and their decision is based on job opportunity, proximity, and the fact that so many other Mexicans have already done it. Would they all be staying in Mexico if not for drug violence supported by US demand for drugs? I doubt it. Looking at the graphs below, it looks like Mexican immigration was increasing throughout the 90s as the homicide rate was going down, and it didn't jump up again when the homicide rate went up in 2007. However, the initial spike in Mexican immigration did follow a big jump in the Mexican unemployment rate.

    http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2012/04/2012-phc-mexican-migration-03a.png

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/03/31/20/3ED1282A00000578-4368832-image-a-47_1490987894038.jpg

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?id=LRUNTTTTMXM156S&nsh=1


    As for the situation with India and the UK, I am not very knowledgeable about the history of the British Raj. However, I note from the following chart that India's share of the world economy fell drastically as a result of a statistical artifact related to the massive intrusion and dominance of the US economy in the 20th century.
    http://2oqz471sa19h3vbwa53m33yj.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/share-of-gdp-history1070.jpg
    You cannot argue that India was impoverished by the British Raj based on share of world economy. Is it the case that Indian development was held back? Maybe, but I doubt it. It would take a pretty detailed summary of specific ways that the UK undermined Indian development for me to believe that the net impact of the British wasn't basically neutral. Of course, the circumstances are quite different, but in Hong Kong and Singapore, British imperialism doesn't seem to have done them much harm. The African experience suggests that resource extraction is prone to creating big disparities in profit, whether that is going to a few domestic elites or a few foreign elites. So, I'm not going to just accept the idea of immigrants as creditors either. Diamonds aren't worth anything without wealthy buyers, so they would have ended up in the hands of Europeans and Americans anyway, regardless of any colonialism.

    Overall, we must admit that international interactions are a necessary condition for migration. (If Japan* hadn't opened up after 1854, Japanese wouldn't have emigrated to the US.) However, the nature of the interactions doesn't determine the levels of migration, and interactions are not, by themselves, sufficient to account for migration.

    * By the way, speaking of Japan, their biggest immigrant problem, the Korean diaspora, was caused by importing semi-slave labor during the occupation of Korea. I note that the Japanese Imperial restoration, which was heavily influenced by Confucianism, led to pretty Invade-y and Invite-y behavior. On the other hand, their latter-day peace, trade, and non-migration habits have been developed under a constitution written by non-Confucian westerners.

    Also, it remains to be seen how China will act in the future. The comparison of their behavior now with the US global policing and the British Empire is apples and oranges because of the disparities in current power projection. Declaring that Chinese non-colonialism just reflects on Chinese character is like saying that India's failure to colonize Malaysia 1850-1950 just reflects on Indian character. How were they going to do that under the auspices of the UK (US) global military regime?
  37. Glaivester says: • Website

    When the peasants come for the rich with pitchforks, the safest thing for the rich to do is to say, “Don’t blame us, blame them” — pointing to the newest, the weakest.

    Cartoonist Stuart Carlson drew a piece about this, and I responded.

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    The trick is to notice that the rich man is the one who imported the newcomers for his factories and farms.

    This is what is happening here. If we don't deal with the super rich using their wealth and power to flood the west with immigrants, it's game over.

    The immigrants are the symptom, the disease is the globalist worshiping elite like Gates, Zuckerberg, Bezos and Brin. Who are all working to eradicate us lower class whites and the society that made them so wealthy.
  38. On Oct. 1, 1977, my parents, my two sisters, and I boarded a Lufthansa plane in the dead of night in Bombay. … We were going to America. …

    He had to add “in the dead of night” to give it an undertone of drama and hardship. But it was a Lufthansa flight for crying out loud.

    Not much comparison to a trans-Atlantic voyage by ship, sail or steam.

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  39. Wilkey says:
    @Anonymous
    I'm sick and tired of pundits pontificating that brexit is the 'biggest own goal' Britain has scored.
    Just one fact: The UK's average economic growth rate in the decades preceding to EU accession in 1973 was higher than after 1973.

    I’m sick and tired of pundits pontificating that brexit is the ‘biggest own goal’ Britain has scored.
    Just one fact: The UK’s average economic growth rate in the decades preceding to EU accession in 1973 was higher than after 1973.

    And countries with high rates of immigration don’t have faster GDP growth rates than those with low rates of immigration. But somehow immigration boosts the economy.

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  40. Rod1963 says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Today's Southerners don't have time for Senator Benjamin Tillman's prejudice.

    They want a bunch of black athletes to come to their alma matter Ole Miss and win the BCS Cup.

    It's not always "white guilt" or nobility that's leading to the downfall of the West. In many cases, it's ruinous entertainment obsession. I bet Tillman's descendants are cool with anyone who can help Ole Miss beat LSU. Football players are the real heroes.

    If you take down the Confederate statues, whatever. As long as they can tailgate at Ole Miss games, the "Sons of the South" will still be happy.

    Organized professional sports is nothing but bread and circuses.

    It is designed to focus the emotional and intellectual energy of the proles into something useless while they get raped by the boss class. You ever wonder why whites don’t seem to have the focus or energy to notice they’re being screwed over?

    Part of the answer is organized sports. Sit back and watch the crowd(not the game that’s for suckers) watch the level of emotional intensity – it’s way up there. It’s like a drug, you get this high off it. It’s also a social thing and allows for male bonding, etc. But all of it is directed to your team. You identify with them. Their success is your success.

    It’s the Roman bread and circuses for the 21st century.

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    And partisan politics today is mirroring team sports--all that matters is which team wins, nothing else.
  41. Rod1963 says:
    @Glaivester

    When the peasants come for the rich with pitchforks, the safest thing for the rich to do is to say, “Don’t blame us, blame them” — pointing to the newest, the weakest.
     
    Cartoonist Stuart Carlson drew a piece about this, and I responded.

    The trick is to notice that the rich man is the one who imported the newcomers for his factories and farms.

    This is what is happening here. If we don’t deal with the super rich using their wealth and power to flood the west with immigrants, it’s game over.

    The immigrants are the symptom, the disease is the globalist worshiping elite like Gates, Zuckerberg, Bezos and Brin. Who are all working to eradicate us lower class whites and the society that made them so wealthy.

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    It's not unfair to notice that the wealth of the Silicon Dons rests on a foundation of Cold War defense spending, indeed the current push for self-driving cars is the direct descendent of a DARPA project of about 15 years ago. I believe it is very likely that the dominance of Google and Facebook is a result of cooperation with the NSA.
  42. Nico says:
    @Whiskey
    Essentially, Mehta is arguing for White Slavery. No not the sex kind though that too, but slavery of White men in serfdom to support the Third World. This is exactly as I predicted.

    Tiny Duck is always going on about how non-Whites don't like me. I don't care if they love or hate me -- they will want to enslave me just the same. I want them to FEAR me. And I want their #1 enablers, White women, to fear me and every other White man the same.

    It is oh so better, in so many ways, to be feared than loved. You don't see Africans migrating to Putin's Russia now do you? Why?

    Africans are AFRAID of Russians. Its better to be poor and violent and so dangerous that everyone leaves you alone, than to be wealthy and loved. It is best of all to be rich and feared, but we are not Japan.

    I will note with interest that the paragon of virtue, India, had one of its leading anti-government and anti-Hindu nationalist journalists shot and killed by assassins.

    Pretty dangerous: remember Nero was killed in a palace coup after saying he wished only to be feared, not to be loved. The ideal is to be feared AND loved. Of course this squishy SJW let-everyone-in strategy is not the way forward. A few benevolent firing squads to disperse the unruly demanding crowds at a few key points should be sufficient, repeating as necessary every few months/years to make sure the message stays imprinted.

    Case in point: Donald Trump. While Islamic terrorist attacks continue to rage across the West, they have mysteriously stopped in the U.S. since Trump’s election. And have never taken hold in Hungary, Czechia or Poland. Why? Simple: you don’t hit people who demonstrate the means AND the will to retaliate. But the four aforementioned are scarcely as bloodthirsty as Rome of Old.

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    And have never taken hold in Hungary, Czechia or Poland. Why? Simple: you don’t hit people who demonstrate the means AND the will to retaliate.
     
    No, it's because these countries took the obvious and simple step of just not letting many Muslims in. It is hard to imagine a people less likely to retaliate than the wussy Czechs.

    Russia has the means and the will to retaliate, and Islamic terrorism still takes place there. Segregation is simply the best and most humane answer.
  43. Abe says: • Website

    When Christopher Hughes bought THE NEW REPUBLIC he thought he was getting a regular gay antique- the sort you stashed away in your china hutch for years on end before bringing it out every once and awhile to impress your big ol’ circle of gay friends at your big ol’ gay dinner parties. Otherwise, though, it was to remain out-of-sight/out-of-mind, and certainly not require any further outlays of cash beyond the initial sticker price. But it turned out that what ol’ Chris got himself was more akin to a 1930′s roadster than a 1920′s serving set, and that his regular gay antique was really a regular guy antique like a classic car or a gun- i.e. something requiring constant attention and upgrades with all the attendant infusion of fresh cash that would mean if it were to remain in any sort of working order.

    And so as this realization dawned on ol’ Chris his mood soured, and his demeanor darkened, and his greedy eyes searched for an exit door. But to make it to that door and then through it he’d first have to have some parting words at-the-ready, and so to craft that for him he hired a creature named Jeet Heer, who’d write a magnificent hit-piece for THE NEW REPUBLIC about how miserably racist, no good, and downright deplorable a journal of opinion called THE NEW REPUBLIC had been through the decades despite its putative progressive reputation.

    India, the most reactionary place on earth. Hereditary writer of 2000 or more word hit-piece essays for middle-brow publications. Are Heer and this Mehta guy of the same caste?

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  44. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    ‘Phobia of immigrants is the greatest threat to democracy’.

    Yes. Exactly.

    In just about every western nation which has had massive third world immigration imposed upon it a clear majority of that nation’s indigenous citizen population has consistently and overwhelmingly strongly favored curtailment of that immigration over time periods measured in generations.
    - Only that that the deep state political class of those nations absolutely refuse to take notice.

    That’s then*real* story of the third world immigration surge into the west.

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  45. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    We need new definitions.

    Immigration: Arrival of people who are like you in identity and culture.

    So, Jews moving to Israel is immigration.

    Chinese moving to Taiwan or vice versa is immigration.

    Russians in Lithuania moving to Russia is immigration.

    When more Anglos and Northern Europeans arrived in the US, they were immigrants.
    When Southern/Eastern Europeans arrived, it was more difficult to assimilate, but because they were white and could easily melt into Anglo-Americanism, they too became immigrants.

    Immigration isn’t threatening to a nation. When more Chinese arrive in Taiwan, Taiwan as a Chinese nation remains what it is. When more Jews arrive in Israel, they bolster the idea of Jewish state.

    ————————

    Colonization or Demographic Imperialism: Arrival of people who are different in race, culture, attitude, and etc. These people may be hostile, difficult to assimilate, or culturally ill-suited for the host nation. Also, MORE of these people undermine the very character and fabric of the native or nativist society. If Swedish Americans were to move to Sweden, they could assimilate pretty easily and melt in. But tons of Muslims and Africans threaten to forever alter the very identity and culture of Sweden.

    What we seeing now is NOT immigration. It is Colonization and Demographic Imperialist. It is Replacism that will destroy entire peoples and cultures.

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    • Agree: Nico
    • Replies: @Flip
    Ask the Mexicans how well inviting Americans to settle Texas worked out.
  46. @Wilkey
    All hail Western civilization, which gave the world the genocide of the Native Americans, slavery, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, Hiroshima, and global warming. How hypocritical this whole debate about migration really is. The rich countries complain loudly about migration from the poor ones.

    It's funny how all Westerners are guilty of everything that's happened in all Western countries for all of history (even when our countries fought those evils, like the US and UK fought the Holocaust) but Third Worlders aren't guilty of shit happening in their countries today.

    BTW, the evil destruction of Hiroshima was only possible thanks to immigrants. Are we supposed to thank them or blame them?

    This is how the game was rigged: First they colonized us and stole our treasure and prevented us from building our industries. After plundering us for centuries, they left, having drawn up maps in ways that ensured permanent strife between our communities.

    Wait, wait, wait! "We" drew up maps guaranteeing them diversity! Diversity is a blessing!

    … Now, again, they ask us not to come, desperate and starving though they have rendered us, because the richest among them need a scapegoat.

    The richest among us want more and more of you, because the rich need their serfs. If you really want to piss off the rich then don't come here.

    the former U.N. undersecretary-general for communications and public information, gave a compelling Oxford Union speech that made the case for (symbolic) reparations owed by Britain to India. “India’s share of the world economy when Britain arrived on its shores was 23 percent. By the time the British left, it was down to below 4 percent. Why?” he asked. “Simply because India had been governed for the benefit of Britain. Britain’s rise for 200 years was financed by its depredations in India.”

    In 1617, when the British arrived in India, Isaac Newton was still 25 years from being born. By the time they left 330 years later British scientists and engineers had revolutionized, well, pretty much everything. What had India done? Would it have done much more than that if the British had never arrived?

    It's not that India's economy shrank during those 330 years. It's that the rest of the world's economy grew massively. Take two countries with economies of equal size. Country A grows at 3% per year and Country B grows at 4% per year. After 330 years County B's economy will be more than 24 times larger than that of Country A.

    …genocide of the Native Americans, slavery, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, Hiroshima, and global warming.

    The whole premise is wrong.

    The American Indians were tribesmen who were killing and sometimes even eating each other before our people got here. They routinely fought each other and took territory; our ancestors just comprised another tribe that entered the game and ended up winning the whole thing. That game has been going on all over the Earth as long as there have been people.

    Slavery definitely was NOT created by Western Civilization! I wonder how many of today’s “educated” children even understand this. Apparently not Suketu Mehta.

    Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not even as bad as all the firebombing we did…so those are bad examples but popular choices for lazy pop writers.

    The Earth’s climate has ALWAYS changed and always will, no matter what mankind does. No one has to prove that things are warming up; they have been since the last ice age. The thing to do is to prepare our descendants for the inevitable changes. You do that with the tools of the modern world created by Western Civilization, not by destroying and denying the ascendancy of that very civilization which might end up being the salvation of mankind.

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    • Agree: Seneca
    • Replies: @Stan d Mute

    The whole premise is wrong.
     
    Wrong would be thinking that American slavery was somehow worse than say Arab slavery. These simpletons are not even wrong. Examples abound: "whites are destroying the planet" or "nazis killing Jews was worst atrocity ever" or "Amerinds were peaceful" etc are all not even wrong. They're just laughable tropes for semi-literate retards. Our only chance of destroying the planet is probably CERN where we might accidentally discover the secret sauce to creating a black hole or Big Bang. Jews are just another tribe with a special talent for pissing off host nations who have allowed them in. Amerinds were just Stone Age savages who ate one another, lived in tents or caves, and shat where they ate. Etc...

    Virtually everything taught in western schools today falls under the "not even wrong" category and those who can see (or Notice) are purged. We live under the Tyranny of Stupid.
  47. unit472 says:

    When India was partitioned in 1947 population of the ‘subcontinent’ was about 350 million and the UK 55 million. Today the numbers are over 1.5 billion and 65 million respectively. That and 50 years of various socialist schemes is the main reason for the wealth disparity between the subcontinent and the UK.

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    • Replies: @Saxon
    Racial differences are the main reason. Average UK native IQ is 100-105 depending on region. Not so in India. Also, diversity is bad. India is largely a corrupt unmanagable hellhole because of the number of different racial/ethnic groups there. No one has any reason to pay it forward or really be anything other than corrupt in the political system. Same reason the Scandinavian welfare state is doomed. Nordic people aren't going to want to continue paying for foreign people to outbreed them in their own land. It was intended to help their own people and only those who genuinely needed it--it was intended for a population with good work ethic to catch those who fell between the cracks. Not for moslem colonists to pop out 8 jihadi babies.

    One reason that India went from 33% of the world GDP to 3% during this period he mentions -- and he won't give details on this since it's part of the trick -- is that the British people, scientists, inventors and all basically created the industrial revolution and all of the increased productivity that came from it. Strange that even after full decolonization all of these countries with low average IQ and lowtrust/diversity problems have failed to industrialize and become prosperous. Not a problem in South Korea or Japan, though, was it? So what is the common factor? Like I said, racial differences and a lack of baggage caused by racial diversity.
  48. Tiny Duck says:

    The truth is that white people are fake Americans. People of Color have made all contributions and advancements to the country. It is the white man that has done nothing but stolen and plundered. You shouldn’t feel demographic change just because you cannot keep up with superior people

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    Have you considered submitting longer articles to Buzzfeed?
    , @Pericles
    America was in its entirety made from COTTON! Roads, cars, skyscrapers, all of it!

    Google is still made of COTTON!

    , @Gary in Gramercy
    The SuperSoaker is nice.
    , @MEH 0910
    Tiny Duck, you got mentioned by Mr. Sailer himself:

    Although it sounds as if it could be written by iSteve commenter Tiny Duck, it appears to be completely serious:
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0gGWRnoFDI
    , @Anonymous
    Oh, Lawdy I still remumber that day, what was it, sometime around 1930 I think, when I heared on the radjo 'bout that Missa Jackson and his Penicillin, gonna help all them white boys over in Europe. Po stahvin' fools, all o'em but ya feel sorry for 'em- Mamma always used to tell us,"eat all yo meat and vegetables, they's po white folks stahvin' o'er in Europe who ain't got nearly as much as you". You reminds me of the time my great-great-great granpappy Washinton, you know, the one all them white folks and streets and places is named aftah; my granpappy he went and sailed that boat crosst the Potomick and beat them redcoats the hell on back to England. When folks axed him," how foe you beat all them trained millitia with you handful o' locals from 'round the way?" he always 'plied back,"Course fool! What you thinkin'? They's all white boys! In all these years, ain't never been no white boy never 'complished nothin' "
  49. Tyrion says:
    @Opinionator
    I've observed that subcons (India and Pakistan) possess some of the most jealous, hateful, and vicious attitudes toward Whites of all immigrant groups.

    I’ve observed that subcons (India and Pakistan) possess some of the most jealous, hateful, and vicious attitudes toward Whites of all immigrant groups

    Absolutely. It is the aesthetics that generate such an emotional response. Go to Africa and you will find, given the resources and ignoring rituals connected to superstitious beliefs, that Africans are significantly more hygienic than Europeans. Bantus are a clean collection of peoples.

    Go to India and you will find a putrefying mess. The low level of hygiene is disgusting and exceptionally shaming for an American subcon returning to the homeland. You can go to undeveloped (sic) countries in Africa and not get ill. India not so much.

    This emotional self-disgust often gets turned outwards. As Mehta’s paragraph below highlights! He knows that where South Asians goes so to go instant South Asian slums, and when Hungarian ‘golden children’ make a tent city it is a heavenly festival of music and fun. He knows the connection…it just shames him. So he needs to find a way to shame those children back. Hungarian sentiment meet Subcon ressentiment.

    A woman told us which road to take to the “Pakistani camp.” We rattled down a rutted road by the superhighway and came up to the camp. It was an instant South Asian slum, but with backpacking tents instead of plastic sheets, just like the Sziget music festival I’d just come from. The festival had been filled with golden children, the flowers of white Europe, who, on payment of the $363-per-person entry fee, could luxuriate in their own tent city for a week.

    Otoh, there are plenty of pretty cool subcons. Including some great ones in UK politics. And US politics it seems.

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  50. Yan Shen says:

    Maybe we should stop them coming here to sell us their drugs by building, you know, a Wall?

    Not sure I get that. I think Mr. Mehta’s point was that American demand for drugs in part fuels the violence of the cartels in Latin America, which contributes to some of the chaos that leads Latin Americans to want to flee to the United States. Given how sophisticated cartels are these days, I doubt a wall along the southern border would stop anything.

    I disagree with Mr. Mehta’s assertion that immigration is somehow essential or a moral obligation for any particular nation. I certainly think he’s wrong about the value that certain ethnic refugees bring to their host countries and in some cases makes patently false claims about how such refugees commit crimes at lower rates capita than native born Europeans.

    However, I do agree with his claim that a non-trivial amount of suffering in the world has been caused by our invade the world mentality. We can disagree with Mr. Mehta’s conclusions but at the same time acknowledge that we need to introspect upon our own role in causing many of the very problems we seem to be complaining about.

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    Sorry ran out of time to edit my previous post. I think the thrust of Mr. Mehta's argument is that in some sense nationalism would be easier to take seriously in the United States and Europe if those places hadn't invaded and colonized other parts of the world such as India or Africa.

    This isn't necessarily saying that a place like Africa would've been better off sans European intervention. I think a useful analogy to draw here is that of someone breaking into another person's house and trashing it, i.e. King Leopold II of Belgium, then later on proclaiming that all people are entitled to the privacy of their own homes. It doesn't really matter that the person whose house was trashed might not have been the most productive person to begin with.

    In fact, this kind of mentality isn't so far off from many of Steve's points of view. In general Steve seems to be an advocate for a more insular, self oriented national policy that avoids invading the world and subsequently inviting the world. I don't agree with the conclusions that Mr. Mehta draws, but I don't think we should necessarily dismiss some of his better points immediately out of hand.

    , @AndrewR
    The intersection of the set of Americans who significantly object to the Mexican colonization of the US and the set of Americans who use drugs trafficked from Mexico is, for all intents and purposes, an empty set. And I imagine that abusers of drugs trafficked from Mexico are relatively few in number, and overwhelmingly apolitical. For these reasons, I don't understand the point of arguing that the drug consumption habits of a small subset of Americans creates a moral obligation on the part of all Americans to accept limitless Mexican immigration.

    I also have a strong hunch that, even if all Americans became straight-edge immediately, the violent, amoral sociopaths in the Mexican cartels would not magically transform into law-abiding citizens doing honest work. Sure, their profits would be diminished, but they would still be violent criminals and Mexico would still be a corrupt, violent shithole from which millions of Mexicans would want to emigrate.

    , @Daniel Chieh

    Given how sophisticated cartels are these days, I doubt a wall along the southern border would stop anything.
     
    Yes, so instead, we should do nothing. Do you even read what you write?

    Mr. Mehta is patently ridiculous, starting with "this land is their land." The only thing that should be done is to signal boost his article so the acceleration can take its course.

    When my grandmother came to the United States, her attitude was the appropriate one: "We are guests. And as a guests, try to dress a little nicer, act a little nicer, and respect the hosts that you live with." Things change, but the overall attitude is overall sensible.

    The attitude of someone who moves into your home and then demands more while trashing your place, if short of being an outright brigand, is at least that of spoiled child.
    , @Stan d Mute

    I do agree with his claim that a non-trivial amount of suffering in the world has been caused by our invade the world mentality.
     
    True, but mainly because they're too stupid to take advantage of the many many gifts we've given them such as clean water, germ theory of disease, agriculture, medicines, etc. Instead, they've guaranteed that billions will unnecessarily die of famine, plagues, and warfare.
  51. Yan Shen says:
    @Yan Shen

    Maybe we should stop them coming here to sell us their drugs by building, you know, a Wall?
     
    Not sure I get that. I think Mr. Mehta's point was that American demand for drugs in part fuels the violence of the cartels in Latin America, which contributes to some of the chaos that leads Latin Americans to want to flee to the United States. Given how sophisticated cartels are these days, I doubt a wall along the southern border would stop anything.

    I disagree with Mr. Mehta's assertion that immigration is somehow essential or a moral obligation for any particular nation. I certainly think he's wrong about the value that certain ethnic refugees bring to their host countries and in some cases makes patently false claims about how such refugees commit crimes at lower rates capita than native born Europeans.

    However, I do agree with his claim that a non-trivial amount of suffering in the world has been caused by our invade the world mentality. We can disagree with Mr. Mehta's conclusions but at the same time acknowledge that we need to introspect upon our own role in causing many of the very problems we seem to be complaining about.

    Sorry ran out of time to edit my previous post. I think the thrust of Mr. Mehta’s argument is that in some sense nationalism would be easier to take seriously in the United States and Europe if those places hadn’t invaded and colonized other parts of the world such as India or Africa.

    This isn’t necessarily saying that a place like Africa would’ve been better off sans European intervention. I think a useful analogy to draw here is that of someone breaking into another person’s house and trashing it, i.e. King Leopold II of Belgium, then later on proclaiming that all people are entitled to the privacy of their own homes. It doesn’t really matter that the person whose house was trashed might not have been the most productive person to begin with.

    In fact, this kind of mentality isn’t so far off from many of Steve’s points of view. In general Steve seems to be an advocate for a more insular, self oriented national policy that avoids invading the world and subsequently inviting the world. I don’t agree with the conclusions that Mr. Mehta draws, but I don’t think we should necessarily dismiss some of his better points immediately out of hand.

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    Then let him make those points in India. There is absolutely no reason for Americans to have to live with someone like Mehta. If his problem is with colonization, let him take it up with the Brits. Britain isn't America.

    And if the third-world had the right to resist and expel European and American colonizers, then Europeans and Americans have the right to resist and expel their own colonizers. Talk about being hypocritical!
    , @OilcanFloyd
    Then let him make those points in India. There is absolutely no reason for Americans to have to live with someone like Mehta. If his problem is with colonization, let him take it up with the Brits. Britain isn't America.

    And if the third-world had the right to resist and expel European and American colonizers, then Europeans and Americans have the right to resist and expel their own colonizers. Talk about being hypocritical!
  52. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Mehta is a parsee name isn’t it?

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    .... at least in the case of Zubin Mehta. (director Israel Philharmonic)

    wikipedia presents a list of notable Mehtas
    at:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehta

    I can not figure out how many of them are not Parsi.
  53. @Opinionator
    I've observed that subcons (India and Pakistan) possess some of the most jealous, hateful, and vicious attitudes toward Whites of all immigrant groups.

    They are also the most pushy and presumptuous immigrants. Even before they can properly pronounce the word, they’re talking about how “vee Americans” or “vee Canadians” are not doing enough to welcome immigrants.

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  54. Whenever I read this stuff, which is becoming more frequent, I wonder how this ends. Sometimes I feel like the open borders people are overplaying their collective hand because they are out of touch, and saner heads will prevail. Sometimes I feel like they already won. Either way, I don’t see the purpose of this type of article. If it is designed to convince, it is terribly unpersuasive. If it is designed to gloat, it only breeds resentment, unnecessarily. Maybe nothing more than getting clicks and backpats.

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    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Foreign Policy magazine is run by a guy who looks and acts like an anti-Semitic cartoon character. I think he runs articles like this as part of the culture war and the war for predominance. He's saying :"this magazine is an organ of the governing class. Trump may have won but we are carrying on with the destruction of White countries as scheduled. If anything, we're emboldened".
    , @KM32
    It ends with the collapse of America into chaos and internecine violence, or perhaps just sinking to Third World status. Once there are no more nice parts of the country left, or third generation brown people running the country have had enough of fresh-off-the-boat types, the borders close.

    I predict that will come in 50-70 years, when the population is 600 million or so, roughly 75% non-white, and large areas of the country are roughly as chaotic as Brazil. Following trends, Europe will have collapsed as a center of civilization, and China and Japan will be old and fading. We might have a big civilizational collapse, and then something new will be reborn from the old in 200-600 years.

    Depressing, of course, when relatively simple measures would keep civilization humming along. Population stabilization, mild eugenics practices, and control of borders. That's all it would take.
    , @Patrick in SC
    Good questions.

    I think it's another example of the stunning lack of self-awareness I see so often with leftists these days.

    I don't profess to be a genius or possess an intricate understanding of public policy or every nuance of my own ideology. But I like to think I still have the ability to reflect on what I'm about to argue and think of counter-arguments and possible flaws in my reasoning before I hit the send button.

    Not these folks.

    It's like Imperial Japan in 1942 complaining about a sneak attack, or the fugitive John Wilkes Booth griping about how the Federal soldiers snuck up on him from behind. Hello? Hello?
    , @anonymous-antimarxist
    What I wonder is if the entire readership "Foreign Affairs" is made up of Globalists, Neo-Cons, and Cuckold Porn Fetishists.

    Whose Foreign Affairs are we talking about here? From whose perspective and therefore perhaps interest are we concerned with?

    Is there the slightest hope that some member of the Council of Foreign Relations membership is a former graduate of our service academies who is sick of this insanity and might just want lead a revolution against it?

    Where is George Washington when you need him most???
  55. anon says: • Disclaimer

    The NYTs had an article today about how poorly sub Saharan/Black African economic migrants are treated. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/12/world/africa/migrants-africa-libya.html
    Paywalled.

    The thing that immediately struck me was that these mistreated economic migrants seemed like modern slaves. Especially in the picture the Times chose showing rescued migrants packed into a boat.

    It wasn’t just me. https://www.the-american-interest.com/2017/09/12/nyt-wakes-racism-africans-libya/ .

    The American Interest notice something similar.

    My immediate reaction is:
    1. Eliminate this modern form of slavery. Don’t tolerate importation of slave like victims.
    2. These black bodies are needed desperately as human capital to build out Africa. How dare we import them and exploit them.

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  56. Josh says:

    In fairness, we should generally try to keep in mind that the u.s. does need to stop its bombings, proxy wars, and various destabilizing machinations in order for more people to stay put.

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  57. @william munny
    Whenever I read this stuff, which is becoming more frequent, I wonder how this ends. Sometimes I feel like the open borders people are overplaying their collective hand because they are out of touch, and saner heads will prevail. Sometimes I feel like they already won. Either way, I don't see the purpose of this type of article. If it is designed to convince, it is terribly unpersuasive. If it is designed to gloat, it only breeds resentment, unnecessarily. Maybe nothing more than getting clicks and backpats.

    Foreign Policy magazine is run by a guy who looks and acts like an anti-Semitic cartoon character. I think he runs articles like this as part of the culture war and the war for predominance. He’s saying :”this magazine is an organ of the governing class. Trump may have won but we are carrying on with the destruction of White countries as scheduled. If anything, we’re emboldened”.

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  58. Maj. Kong says:
    @Anonymous
    Whiskey says blacks are afraid of Russians but much closer to home blacks are afraid of hispanics mostly Mexicans.

    SW blacks have mass emigrated to Atlanta because of fear. A strong black man can't date a latina in LA without paying a physical price.

    That is the reality on the street. Hispanics used direct action against blacks and now Hispanics control the city. This is a more intense version of the situation in Miami. But the SW Hispanics are very different from Caribbean Hispanics and so there is no coexistence possible.

    The Atlanta economy is driven by large multinational corps like Home Depot, UPS and Coca-Cola. The Atlanta-Fulton government also delivered a large amount of political patronage to blacks, the airport is the biggest example. It’s also worthwhile to note that blacks like the Atlanta suburbs more than the gentrifying city, which is one of the few areas of the country to become whiter in the last 10 years.

    Blacks moved to the West Coast during WWII for war industry jobs, many of them in the long-gone shipyards and aircraft factories. Today’s Hollywood and tech offer fewer blue-collar opportunities, and limited ability for AA quotas. In peacetime environments, pull factors usually always outweigh push factors.

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  59. JohnnyD says:

    The Poles obviously had time for an empire when they were fighting for their independence during the last two-hundred years…

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  60. AndrewR says:
    @Opinionator
    I've observed that subcons (India and Pakistan) possess some of the most jealous, hateful, and vicious attitudes toward Whites of all immigrant groups.

    I’ve never studied this deeply but I think the men are worse, in no small part due to the fact that subcontinental men are arguably at the absolute bottom of the sexual desirability hierarchy in Anglo countries. We see a similar dynamic with many men of East Asian heritage. When even your own women tend to prefer other groups’ men over your own men, it’s not hard to see how this sexual frustration can manifest itself in this sort of unhinged hatred towards the dominant group.

    I would pity guys like this writer if they weren’t given prestigious platforms and held up by the elites as our moral superiors.

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  61. Maj. Kong says:
    @Rod1963
    The trick is to notice that the rich man is the one who imported the newcomers for his factories and farms.

    This is what is happening here. If we don't deal with the super rich using their wealth and power to flood the west with immigrants, it's game over.

    The immigrants are the symptom, the disease is the globalist worshiping elite like Gates, Zuckerberg, Bezos and Brin. Who are all working to eradicate us lower class whites and the society that made them so wealthy.

    It’s not unfair to notice that the wealth of the Silicon Dons rests on a foundation of Cold War defense spending, indeed the current push for self-driving cars is the direct descendent of a DARPA project of about 15 years ago. I believe it is very likely that the dominance of Google and Facebook is a result of cooperation with the NSA.

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  62. TheJester says:
    @Bubba
    I'm about to die from irony poisoning. This virtue signaling clown comes from one of the most racist, 3rd world countries with one of the highest income inequality gaps and says the entire West is racist? Hmmm... what's the Marathi word for "chutzpah"?

    If I understand Suketu Mehta’s argument, the West (a generic, wide-ranging concept that includes all Caucasians past, present, and future) looted India. Now, it’s time for revenge. Immigrants have come to loot the West in return. With respect to Indians (having worked with them in IT and observed their corporate and social behaviors), I already knew that.

    The irony is that the immigrant looters are pressing moral arguments on us for open borders to make their looting quicker, easier, and more extensive via their overwhelming numbers. They are asking us to “cash out” our civilization and transfer its assets to them in the name of global equity and justice.

    Nothing succeeds like success! America has heard this same argument for decades from the American Civil Rights movement. Recall the start of the national “gibsmedat” program when Martin Luther changed his focus from legal equity to economic parity when he said,

    “Now our struggle is for genuine equality, which means economic equality. For we know that it isn’t enough to integrate lunch counters. What does it profit a man to be able to eat at an integrated lunch counter if he doesn’t earn enough money to buy a hamburger and a cup of coffee?”
    – Martin Luther King

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eugene-robinson-mlks-call-for-economic-justice/2015/01/15/3599cb70-9cfe-11e4-96cc-e858eba91ced_story.html?utm_term=.dffb31696547

    Our new immigrants are doing nothing more than making this argument their own and taking it global. Recall that an appeal to equity and justice for past wrongs was the start of affirmative action, the offensive against disparate impacts and, when that didn’t work, the suspension of belief required to open our borders and celebrate cultural diversity as a strength.

    How could we have foreseen that by buying into the tenets of the original Civil Rights movement that we would be sponsoring a festering social cancer that would ultimately destroy us?

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    You are spot on with the Civil Rights movement question. Senator Barry Goldwater said, "Forced integration is as wrong as forced segregation," during an address to Republicans in Chicago on October 16, 1964, He was referring to the question of Freedom of Association vs. Civil Rights. Unfortunately the Freedom of Association is now completely lost in the United States. Forced integration is now the law of the land which will ultimately lead to another civil war.
  63. AndrewR says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Mysteriously, Israel seems to have avoided this non-white immigrant supremacy. Israel is, for all practical purposes, a White nationalist ethnostate. If Jared Taylor or David Duke could create their own ideal country, it'd operate very similarly to Israel.

    Even more mysteriously, there seems to be massive overlap between pro-Israel intellectuals/politicians and pro-immigrant supremacists. I wonder how they reconcile support for a White nationalist homeland with their emphatic love of third word migration into Western countries.

    It's all very mysterious. Maybe someday I'll be able to figure this all out.

    Mugabe’s Zimbabwe is also a white nationalist ethnostate, if I’m following your logic. I suggest you check your premises.

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  64. Peterike says:

    The umpteenth example of Peterike’s Law, that Asian immigration to America will be 1,000 times more destructive than Mexican immigration. And Mexicans are no prize.

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  65. KM32 says:
    @william munny
    Whenever I read this stuff, which is becoming more frequent, I wonder how this ends. Sometimes I feel like the open borders people are overplaying their collective hand because they are out of touch, and saner heads will prevail. Sometimes I feel like they already won. Either way, I don't see the purpose of this type of article. If it is designed to convince, it is terribly unpersuasive. If it is designed to gloat, it only breeds resentment, unnecessarily. Maybe nothing more than getting clicks and backpats.

    It ends with the collapse of America into chaos and internecine violence, or perhaps just sinking to Third World status. Once there are no more nice parts of the country left, or third generation brown people running the country have had enough of fresh-off-the-boat types, the borders close.

    I predict that will come in 50-70 years, when the population is 600 million or so, roughly 75% non-white, and large areas of the country are roughly as chaotic as Brazil. Following trends, Europe will have collapsed as a center of civilization, and China and Japan will be old and fading. We might have a big civilizational collapse, and then something new will be reborn from the old in 200-600 years.

    Depressing, of course, when relatively simple measures would keep civilization humming along. Population stabilization, mild eugenics practices, and control of borders. That’s all it would take.

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    • Replies: @Henry Bowman
    ounces of prevention are worth 2 tons of cure. Its sad that we all have to suffer a dim, dark, distoypian future because of the short sighted mental illness of the "greatest generation" and the spoiled brat spawn.
    , @nigel
    "Following trends, Europe will have collapsed as a center of civilization, and China and Japan will be old and fading. We might have a big civilizational collapse, and then something new will be reborn from the old in 200-600 years."

    That depends on how far things decline. We are precariously perched as a technological society. Everything we have has been built up from our initial ability to utilize relatively easy to access fossil fuels and raw materials.

    We could lose the complex infrastructure that supports our civilisation if we don't have a population that can maintain it. Once it is gone, it is going to be almost impossible to bring it back.

    Our ancestors could dig a hole in Texas and up "comes a bubblin' crude". Now we have to dig miles below the sea to get oil. A future black mestizo population of the Americas who have lost modern technology will have no access to oil and solar is not viable without oil to mine, refine and transport the rare earths required. All the intermediate steps from industrial revolution to modern technology will not be available to them.

    Even scarier than the loss of our nation, people and race, is the thought that once the west is good and gone, nothing like it can ever rise again. Humanity will be again condemned to live short, hard lives under tyranny and slavery until the species finally dies out on this rock.
  66. eah says:

    Ditto for India and Indians like Suketu Mehta.

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  67. AndrewR says:
    @yyrvjh
    A great deal of what's been happening these past few decades can be summed up in a pithy formulation by Richard Lindzen, emeritus professor of climate science (MIT):

    Redistributing wealth from the first world's poor to the third world's rich.


     

    He was referring to the "catastrophic man-made global warming" hysteria and the various boondoggles that have sprung up in its wake, but could just as well have referred to Mr. Mehta's family -- surely not indigent -- paying full airfare to fly Lufthansa from Bombay to New York. Early forerunners of the millions of economic migrants paying people smugglers $5,000 and up to move to western welfare states, cutting ahead in line of needy natives for subsidized housing, health care and jobs. The wealthier ones pay corrupt officials $20,000 for genuine visas and travel in comfort and style. (The rich ones have no reason to leave, they stay and keep enjoying their lifestyle, supplemented by western foreign aid.)

    What's shocking is not the undisguised contempt and greed on display here, it's the all-too-frequent complacent willingness of westerners to nod along with the outrageous claims. Just try to explain, in the simplest terms, that money does not grow on trees, and that what gets paid out to the gate-crashers cannot be paid to citizens. The lightbulb does NOT go on! "Hey, we threw billions out of the window to bail out the banks, we can afford to pay for many more refugees!" Nods all around from the other morons.

    Bingo. I had this realization a couple years ago.

    A cute Chinese girl came to my door asking me to “sponsor” a poor kid in Mexico for 30 bucks/month. I initially agreed but then got to thinking: Mexico’s population is about 125 million. Let’s estimate extremely liberally that there are 15 million children in Mexico living in destitution (the real number is likely less than half of that). Carlos “Slim” Salim ALONE could literally afford to give each one of them 30 dollars a month for over ten years. But of course, he has made his wealth in large part from overcharging poor Mexicans for the services under his control. So why not hit working class Americans up for donations to support poor Mexicans (don’t worry, gabacho: it’s tax deductible!!!), all while supporting limitless Mexican migration to the US?

    And that’s just Salim. The combined net worth of the Mexican 0.1% is probably at least three trillion dollars.

    I called the organization that day and cancelled my donation, guilt free. It’s not my moral responsibility to subsidize Mexican plutocrats.

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  68. @Tiny Duck
    The truth is that white people are fake Americans. People of Color have made all contributions and advancements to the country. It is the white man that has done nothing but stolen and plundered. You shouldn't feel demographic change just because you cannot keep up with superior people

    Have you considered submitting longer articles to Buzzfeed?

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  69. AndrewR says:
    @Anonymous
    I'm sick and tired of pundits pontificating that brexit is the 'biggest own goal' Britain has scored.
    Just one fact: The UK's average economic growth rate in the decades preceding to EU accession in 1973 was higher than after 1973.

    Yeah that line was stupid but I forgot about it because virtually every line in that street shitter’s screed was outrageous.

    I’d say the biggest own-goal in British history was siding with the Soviets and insisting on unconditional surrender of the Germans. The survival of the Third Reich may not have been ideal for the UK but it’s hard to imagine that the UK would be so far along in the process of national self-destruction as they are now.

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  70. AndrewR says:
    @Yan Shen
    In general I support nationalism and for the most part disagree with Mr. Mehta's arguments. I wonder though if his comments about the colonization of India have some merit.

    When you invade the world, you create a chain of chaos that inevitably leads to inadvertently inviting the world as well. Just think of all the refugee situations that have been created by America bombing the shit out of whatever god forsaken countries in this world.

    On the other hand, modern day China or Japan for the most part pursue policies of political non-interference and a focus on narrow national interests.

    Maybe this requires a bargain on both sides? Don't invade the world and don't invite the world. And if you invaded some place in the past, at least be cognizant of that when having a conversation about modern day nationalism.

    Imagine thinking that the Chinese and Japanese have never invaded anyone.

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  71. @PiltdownMan

    Suketu Mehta is a writer based in New York City. He was born in Kolkata, India, and raised in Mumbai where he lived until his family moved to the New York area in 1977.
     
    Suketu Mehta would like New York City to become like Bombay, the subject of his Maximum City: Bombay Lost and Found , a book that was a Pulitzer prize finalist.

    From the New York Times book review of Maximum City:

    "Why do people still live in Bombay?" Mehta asks in frustration. "Every day is an assault on the individual's senses, from the time you get up, to the transport you take to go to work, to the offices you work in, to the forms of entertainment you are subjected to." The literary landscape this description brings to mind is Dickens's London. Take some 19th-century European urban blight, throw in a little tropical sea breeze, sex and Islamic terrorism and you have Mehta's Bombay -- a city in heat," as he memorably calls it.
     

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/21/books/review/maximum-city-bombay-confidential.html?mcubz=0

    The British uplifted India. I am against colonialism, but surely the British Empire did more good than not.

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  72. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Mr. Anon
    I used to have, overall, a rather favorable impression of Indians. Now.........not so much.

    Indians like Suketu Mehta (to say nothing of the foul-mouthed thieves who cold-call my phone, claming to be from "IRS") are the reason why.

    Just what this country needs - yet another perpetually agrieved minority group, who wants to lecture me and mine about "who we are".

    There is no "we". Suketu Mehta is not part of any "we" that I recognize. He can go f**k himself sideways.

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/opinion/can-bal-keshav-thackeray-bombay-strongman-explain-trump.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=1&referer=

    Don’t judge all of us by Suketu Mehta. He’s just another cosmopolitan liberal. As is Shashi tharoor, whom he references in the article.

    Both of them are associated with the left wing in India, and spare no opportunity to bash Hindu nationalists. As you can see from the article I’ve linked, he very clearly equates Hindu nationalists to Trump supporters.

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  73. AndrewR says:
    @Yan Shen

    Maybe we should stop them coming here to sell us their drugs by building, you know, a Wall?
     
    Not sure I get that. I think Mr. Mehta's point was that American demand for drugs in part fuels the violence of the cartels in Latin America, which contributes to some of the chaos that leads Latin Americans to want to flee to the United States. Given how sophisticated cartels are these days, I doubt a wall along the southern border would stop anything.

    I disagree with Mr. Mehta's assertion that immigration is somehow essential or a moral obligation for any particular nation. I certainly think he's wrong about the value that certain ethnic refugees bring to their host countries and in some cases makes patently false claims about how such refugees commit crimes at lower rates capita than native born Europeans.

    However, I do agree with his claim that a non-trivial amount of suffering in the world has been caused by our invade the world mentality. We can disagree with Mr. Mehta's conclusions but at the same time acknowledge that we need to introspect upon our own role in causing many of the very problems we seem to be complaining about.

    The intersection of the set of Americans who significantly object to the Mexican colonization of the US and the set of Americans who use drugs trafficked from Mexico is, for all intents and purposes, an empty set. And I imagine that abusers of drugs trafficked from Mexico are relatively few in number, and overwhelmingly apolitical. For these reasons, I don’t understand the point of arguing that the drug consumption habits of a small subset of Americans creates a moral obligation on the part of all Americans to accept limitless Mexican immigration.

    I also have a strong hunch that, even if all Americans became straight-edge immediately, the violent, amoral sociopaths in the Mexican cartels would not magically transform into law-abiding citizens doing honest work. Sure, their profits would be diminished, but they would still be violent criminals and Mexico would still be a corrupt, violent shithole from which millions of Mexicans would want to emigrate.

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  74. Pericles says:
    @Tiny Duck
    The truth is that white people are fake Americans. People of Color have made all contributions and advancements to the country. It is the white man that has done nothing but stolen and plundered. You shouldn't feel demographic change just because you cannot keep up with superior people

    America was in its entirety made from COTTON! Roads, cars, skyscrapers, all of it!

    Google is still made of COTTON!

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  75. Pericles says:
    @Tyrion

    I’ve observed that subcons (India and Pakistan) possess some of the most jealous, hateful, and vicious attitudes toward Whites of all immigrant groups
     
    Absolutely. It is the aesthetics that generate such an emotional response. Go to Africa and you will find, given the resources and ignoring rituals connected to superstitious beliefs, that Africans are significantly more hygienic than Europeans. Bantus are a clean collection of peoples.

    Go to India and you will find a putrefying mess. The low level of hygiene is disgusting and exceptionally shaming for an American subcon returning to the homeland. You can go to undeveloped (sic) countries in Africa and not get ill. India not so much.

    This emotional self-disgust often gets turned outwards. As Mehta's paragraph below highlights! He knows that where South Asians goes so to go instant South Asian slums, and when Hungarian 'golden children' make a tent city it is a heavenly festival of music and fun. He knows the connection...it just shames him. So he needs to find a way to shame those children back. Hungarian sentiment meet Subcon ressentiment.

    A woman told us which road to take to the “Pakistani camp.” We rattled down a rutted road by the superhighway and came up to the camp. It was an instant South Asian slum, but with backpacking tents instead of plastic sheets, just like the Sziget music festival I’d just come from. The festival had been filled with golden children, the flowers of white Europe, who, on payment of the $363-per-person entry fee, could luxuriate in their own tent city for a week.

    Otoh, there are plenty of pretty cool subcons. Including some great ones in UK politics. And US politics it seems.

    The West clearly needs more subconmen.

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  76. Tulip says:

    No doubt we should look to the example of Modi of India in attempting to address issues of Islam in a multicultural society, and obviously, Jacob Zuma provides an exemplery guide to sensitive tackling of the problem of immigration as well as gender relations and AIDS advocacy.

    Further, its clear any innovations developed by the Germans were cultural appropriations of the Turks, just as the Portuguese were simply moving in on a business well established by the Arabs. Not only are Europeans racist and evil, but we don’t do a good job of giving proper credit to other cultures for some of our most “noticed”, and supposedly unique, “acheivements”.

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  77. @Yan Shen

    Maybe we should stop them coming here to sell us their drugs by building, you know, a Wall?
     
    Not sure I get that. I think Mr. Mehta's point was that American demand for drugs in part fuels the violence of the cartels in Latin America, which contributes to some of the chaos that leads Latin Americans to want to flee to the United States. Given how sophisticated cartels are these days, I doubt a wall along the southern border would stop anything.

    I disagree with Mr. Mehta's assertion that immigration is somehow essential or a moral obligation for any particular nation. I certainly think he's wrong about the value that certain ethnic refugees bring to their host countries and in some cases makes patently false claims about how such refugees commit crimes at lower rates capita than native born Europeans.

    However, I do agree with his claim that a non-trivial amount of suffering in the world has been caused by our invade the world mentality. We can disagree with Mr. Mehta's conclusions but at the same time acknowledge that we need to introspect upon our own role in causing many of the very problems we seem to be complaining about.

    Given how sophisticated cartels are these days, I doubt a wall along the southern border would stop anything.

    Yes, so instead, we should do nothing. Do you even read what you write?

    Mr. Mehta is patently ridiculous, starting with “this land is their land.” The only thing that should be done is to signal boost his article so the acceleration can take its course.

    When my grandmother came to the United States, her attitude was the appropriate one: “We are guests. And as a guests, try to dress a little nicer, act a little nicer, and respect the hosts that you live with.” Things change, but the overall attitude is overall sensible.

    The attitude of someone who moves into your home and then demands more while trashing your place, if short of being an outright brigand, is at least that of spoiled child.

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    I guess you obviously don't read what I write either, including where I stated that I fundamentally disagreed with Mr. Mehta's conclusions about the value or necessity of immigration.

    My only point was that Mr. Mehta was correct in pointing out that some of the problems we face today are due to America's invade the world attitude, which quite frankly isn't all that different from what Steve himself has pointed out. If you don't want to have to invite the world, then maybe you shouldn't invade the world either. See Mr. Mehta's point about the Iraq war. His point about American demand for Latin American drugs was also on the mark, something which Steve failed to understand.


    The attitude of someone who moves into your home and then demands more while trashing your place, if short of being an outright brigand, is at least that of spoiled child.
     
    Agree, but I also think that Mr. Mehta has a point in arguing that colonialism makes that complaint a little bit harder to take seriously. Please read my 2nd followup post. That being said, I fundamentally don't think any countries are morally obligated to accept immigrants because they have a prior history of colonialism, but at the very least it would be nice to be cognizant of this fact when having a conversation.

    Agree with your grandmother that in general when in Rome, do as the Romans do. I'm not a huge fan of immigrants trying to force their own native cultures upon the host nation, as Muslim immigrants to Europe sometimes try to do. That being said, I wouldn't exactly go so far as to totally bend over either. But perhaps that's what you, your grandmother, etc. like doing, so different strokes for different folks.

  78. Not much to say that others haven’t already mentioned here, but this entire piece makes the head swim.

    The question that always comes to mind when reading these grievance pieces is: where do you draw the line? If we need to repent for the mistakes of Hitler, slavery, eradicating the natives, etc. Do people of Norman descent have to apologize to native Britons? (Bad example, they’re all white.) Do Mongols deserve not to have the latest iPhone because Genghis Khan was a Really Bad Guy?

    What happens when Bangladesh gets flooded and 18 million Bangladeshis have to seek dry land?

    We graciously fly them to the US aboard Lufthansa aircraft, in the dead of night of course. Because we owe it to them all. What happens when the population of the subcontinent doesn’t stop increasing, and within a few years, another 18 million Bangladeshis have to seek This Year’s Dry Land? oh…

    We have to accept them all, forever? That seems like the fast track to a global third world. That’s exactly what the oligarchs want? oh…

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    Do Mongols deserve not to have the latest iPhone because Genghis Khan was a Really Bad Guy?
     
    Newsflash: Genghis Khan was really a Jew. His real name was Genghis Cohen. :->
  79. Bugg says:

    “All hail Western civilization, which gave the world the genocide of the Native Americans, slavery, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, Hiroshima, and global warming. How hypocritical this whole debate about migration really is. The rich countries complain loudly about migration from the poor ones.

    This is how the game was rigged: First they colonized us and stole our treasure and prevented us from building our industries. After plundering us for centuries, they left, having drawn up maps in ways that ensured permanent strife between our communities.”

    If white people, the West and America are so awful,then why do you want to come here?

    There is nothing stopping India nor any 3rd world country from building industry other than the crapitude of your own societies and insane religions,and the very corruption the author herein decries. Instead of coming here, why don’t you try to fix that? But it’s way easier to blame Whitey. Congratulations on your death grip grasp of victimhood.

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  80. Moses says:
    @Seamus Padraig
    Here's the skinny version: 'The West is soooooo evil. Now let us all in'.

    Reminds me of an oldie but a goodie from Steve:

    “The only thing worse than living in a country built by White racists is not being allowed to immigrate to a country built by White racists.”

    Captures the immigripers perfectly.

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  81. Altai says:

    This has been a talking point I’ve head more and more lately. I think the first big expression of this was a Lebanese guy who got into Belgium by asylum fraud (He admits this, thinks he did nothing wrong) who became a politician for the fact of being a young ethnocentric Sunni Muslim man who didn’t have a violent criminal record.

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=629_1239027931

    “The autochthons can’t adapt to the multicultural reality. That’s what’s going on. Then they will have to emigrate. Who does not like it here, should leave.”

    AEL-leader Dyab Abou Jahjah makes this statement in the latest edition of the Dutch magazine ‘Society Quarterly’, a quite remarkable statement.
    Belgians or Dutchmen who can’t live with the multicultural society in their own country should move/emigrate.

    Emigrate to where, is the question.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyab_Abou_Jahjah

    Looking through Jahjah’s CV is impressive in how much he openly says he hates the place that took him in and gave him a political career, which he uses to agitate for more immigration of muslims and denigrate the natives. They share that impressive and alien assurance to pursue their groups interests at the expensive of the host society without any hesitation and indeed an expectation that their parasitism be allowed. They get angry when there is any push back, like a spoiled child who has learned no fear or respect for their parent.

    I’ve heard the same expressed by an imam (Of the really throwback kind, like those ultra-orthodox rabbis who you swear just stepped out of a time machine from 18th century Russia and genuinely know nothing of the outside world.) in Australia who said Australia belongs more to people who deliberately emigrated there than those who were born there. I’ve been looking for the clip but can’t find it agin, will try again later.

    And, of course Mr. Current Year himself.

    http://globalnews.ca/news/3567893/justin-trudeau-jealous-immigrants-ctv-interview/

    “Anytime I meet people who got to make the deliberate choice, whose parents chose Canada, I’m jealous” says Trudeau

    “Because I think being able to choose it, rather than being Canadian by default, is an amazing statement of attachment to Canada.”

    “This is your country more than it is for others”

    I think ultimately it’s just an expression of an alien mindset that Westerns can’t comprehend. Like haggling, they’ll keep taking until they’re stopped, they don’t have the same concept of fairness or outgroup empathy.

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  82. DEBT AND DEMOGRAPHY

    MONETARY EXTREMISM AND MASS IMMIGRATION

    The arrogant non-White interloper who attacks White people in the pages of the globalizer propaganda rag “Foreign Policy” is a creature who can be repatriated when the time comes. The larger problem is how to dislodge from power the globalizer ruling class of the American Empire with a minimum of conflict.

    The globalizer ruling class uses monetary extremism to buy off certain population cohorts of White nations in order to continue the planned destruction of those nations through mass immigration. The European Central Bank and the Federal Reserve Bank both conjure up their monetary currency units out of thin air. It is important that average voters begin to understand the larger hidden plans of the globalizers. Political leaders must emerge who can describe complicated plots in simple terms that the average voter can understand.

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  83. Bugg says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    A few years ago, Obama said Israel should go back to its 1967 borders. Massive controversy ensued, during which both the Republican and Democratic parties broke with Obama and sided with Netanyahu.

    Even liberal Democratic rocker Gene Simmons was angry at Obama.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YK7UGytvs8

    I thought entertainers were liberal. I don't know they could be so defensive of borders.

    Very strange.

    Simmons is not all that liberal. He was born Chaim Witz in Haifa, Israel. He has made a point of saying immigrant should assimilate, even if it means Americanizing their names and learning to speak unaccented English as he has.

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  84. ChrisZ says:
    @Yan Shen
    In general I support nationalism and for the most part disagree with Mr. Mehta's arguments. I wonder though if his comments about the colonization of India have some merit.

    When you invade the world, you create a chain of chaos that inevitably leads to inadvertently inviting the world as well. Just think of all the refugee situations that have been created by America bombing the shit out of whatever god forsaken countries in this world.

    On the other hand, modern day China or Japan for the most part pursue policies of political non-interference and a focus on narrow national interests.

    Maybe this requires a bargain on both sides? Don't invade the world and don't invite the world. And if you invaded some place in the past, at least be cognizant of that when having a conversation about modern day nationalism.

    Yan, this seems to be a lesson, or warning, undergirding the “reactionary” British literature of the late 19th century.

    For example, the imperial/colonial experience of the elder generation stands in the background of quite a few of Conan Doyle’s Sherlock Holmes stories. Conquest is a two-way door: England projects its power outward, but the passions and irrationalities of the outer empire migrate to the center. Initially these are unnoticed among the millions of the imperial city, but eventually they erupt again as crime.

    It takes a supreme “noticer” like Holmes to expose the basis of these crimes and bring relief to the lives of his mostly middle-class clientele. (In Doyle’s day, “noticing” itself was not yet a crime.) It occurs to me that his very name–Sure-lock Homes–could be a metaphor for border security.

    In any case the lesson you rightly observe is an old one, and it appears we were given ample warning.

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  85. Altai says:
    @Wilkey
    All hail Western civilization, which gave the world the genocide of the Native Americans, slavery, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, Hiroshima, and global warming. How hypocritical this whole debate about migration really is. The rich countries complain loudly about migration from the poor ones.

    It's funny how all Westerners are guilty of everything that's happened in all Western countries for all of history (even when our countries fought those evils, like the US and UK fought the Holocaust) but Third Worlders aren't guilty of shit happening in their countries today.

    BTW, the evil destruction of Hiroshima was only possible thanks to immigrants. Are we supposed to thank them or blame them?

    This is how the game was rigged: First they colonized us and stole our treasure and prevented us from building our industries. After plundering us for centuries, they left, having drawn up maps in ways that ensured permanent strife between our communities.

    Wait, wait, wait! "We" drew up maps guaranteeing them diversity! Diversity is a blessing!

    … Now, again, they ask us not to come, desperate and starving though they have rendered us, because the richest among them need a scapegoat.

    The richest among us want more and more of you, because the rich need their serfs. If you really want to piss off the rich then don't come here.

    the former U.N. undersecretary-general for communications and public information, gave a compelling Oxford Union speech that made the case for (symbolic) reparations owed by Britain to India. “India’s share of the world economy when Britain arrived on its shores was 23 percent. By the time the British left, it was down to below 4 percent. Why?” he asked. “Simply because India had been governed for the benefit of Britain. Britain’s rise for 200 years was financed by its depredations in India.”

    In 1617, when the British arrived in India, Isaac Newton was still 25 years from being born. By the time they left 330 years later British scientists and engineers had revolutionized, well, pretty much everything. What had India done? Would it have done much more than that if the British had never arrived?

    It's not that India's economy shrank during those 330 years. It's that the rest of the world's economy grew massively. Take two countries with economies of equal size. Country A grows at 3% per year and Country B grows at 4% per year. After 330 years County B's economy will be more than 24 times larger than that of Country A.

    My favourite part is how slowly the likes of Finland, Ireland, Iceland, Norway and the Baltics are now also guilty, revealing that the resentment is racial. They have pale skin and light coloured eyes so they’re also guilty of colonialism! Poland, too, has seemingly spent all the victim points it built up in the 20th century, or so the NYT informs me.

    Nazism too, is now the fault of all the Christian gentiles, still more the fault of Germany, but implicitly that is the direction we’ve been moving in, it’s fascinating in a way.

    Wait til the ignorant writers at the NYT realise Southern Europeans aren’t as dusky as they infer from their hispanic maids.

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    Nazism too, is now the fault of all the Christian gentiles, still more the fault of Germany, but implicitly that is the direction we’ve been moving in, it’s fascinating in a way.
     
    This has always been the Jewish attitude. Germans blame the Nazis for the crimes and disasters of the WWII era. Other Europeans blame the Germans. Americans blame Europeans. Jews blame white people.
  86. Jake says:
    @Anonymous
    Whiskey says blacks are afraid of Russians but much closer to home blacks are afraid of hispanics mostly Mexicans.

    SW blacks have mass emigrated to Atlanta because of fear. A strong black man can't date a latina in LA without paying a physical price.

    That is the reality on the street. Hispanics used direct action against blacks and now Hispanics control the city. This is a more intense version of the situation in Miami. But the SW Hispanics are very different from Caribbean Hispanics and so there is no coexistence possible.

    Caribbean Hispanics have a good deal of black African blood, and Mexicans do not. Mexicans range from 100% American Indian to a few who are 100% white. Most are a mix of Indian and white. Culturally, there are significant differences between Caribbean Hispanics and Mexicans.

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  87. @Tiny Duck
    The truth is that white people are fake Americans. People of Color have made all contributions and advancements to the country. It is the white man that has done nothing but stolen and plundered. You shouldn't feel demographic change just because you cannot keep up with superior people

    The SuperSoaker is nice.

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  88. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    EU supremo Jean-Claude Juncker has just ‘thanked’ Italy for ‘saving Europe’s honour’, referring to the mass influx of ‘migrants’ across the Mediterranean in recent years.

    Yep. In these f*cked up times being the biggest dumbest damn dupes, mugs, chumps, fools, suckers, stooges etc etc in history is described as being ‘honorable’.

    The existence of Jean-Claude Juncker is justification enough for Brexit.

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  89. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The sub-cons win the hutzpah award. Their own lands are racked by sectarian strife, corruption, caste systems, squalor, poverty, terrorism and the occasional war. Yet they seem to feel perfectly comfortable in endlessly criticizing the west. Our recent election shows them to have gone big-time for Clinton so there’s nothing conservative about them. They’re also the most annoying and abrasive, pushy and demanding, types. What’s there to like, where’s the benefit?

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  90. jcd1974 says:

    Mr. Mehta has lived in the USA for forty years and is likely by now a citizen. Yet he’s clearly not a proud American, to the contrary he holds the country and its native born citizens in contempt.

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  91. That’s a kind of wow moment that article. It’s like a moral manifesto for invasion. We are so screwed it is unbelievable. They are just going to keep coming and coming aren’t they. And nothing will be left.

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  92. LondonBob says:

    People underestimate the power of envy and they are unaware just how much the rest of the world envies us.

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  93. @william munny
    Whenever I read this stuff, which is becoming more frequent, I wonder how this ends. Sometimes I feel like the open borders people are overplaying their collective hand because they are out of touch, and saner heads will prevail. Sometimes I feel like they already won. Either way, I don't see the purpose of this type of article. If it is designed to convince, it is terribly unpersuasive. If it is designed to gloat, it only breeds resentment, unnecessarily. Maybe nothing more than getting clicks and backpats.

    Good questions.

    I think it’s another example of the stunning lack of self-awareness I see so often with leftists these days.

    I don’t profess to be a genius or possess an intricate understanding of public policy or every nuance of my own ideology. But I like to think I still have the ability to reflect on what I’m about to argue and think of counter-arguments and possible flaws in my reasoning before I hit the send button.

    Not these folks.

    It’s like Imperial Japan in 1942 complaining about a sneak attack, or the fugitive John Wilkes Booth griping about how the Federal soldiers snuck up on him from behind. Hello? Hello?

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  94. I have an impression that author doesn’t feel fully a member of Western Civ. I am detecting hostility and resentment.

    I am also proud that President Andrzej Duda and Republic of Poland are counted among great villains of this piece. He was so unassuming when starting his term and our country was so quiet and backward then. Our glorious leader must be doing something right for once.

    By the way here is whole article: http://hackmystack.com/2017/09/12/this-land-is-their-land/

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  95. Lurker says:

    On Oct. 1, 1977, my parents, my two sisters, and I boarded a Lufthansa plane in the dead of night in Bombay.

    Bombay? Not Mumbai? Reported for hate speech.

    (I’m wondering if the “dead of night” bit is in there to subtly imply something clandestine and daring about their emigration?)

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  96. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @PiltdownMan

    Suketu Mehta is a writer based in New York City. He was born in Kolkata, India, and raised in Mumbai where he lived until his family moved to the New York area in 1977.
     
    Suketu Mehta would like New York City to become like Bombay, the subject of his Maximum City: Bombay Lost and Found , a book that was a Pulitzer prize finalist.

    From the New York Times book review of Maximum City:

    "Why do people still live in Bombay?" Mehta asks in frustration. "Every day is an assault on the individual's senses, from the time you get up, to the transport you take to go to work, to the offices you work in, to the forms of entertainment you are subjected to." The literary landscape this description brings to mind is Dickens's London. Take some 19th-century European urban blight, throw in a little tropical sea breeze, sex and Islamic terrorism and you have Mehta's Bombay -- a city in heat," as he memorably calls it.
     

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/21/books/review/maximum-city-bombay-confidential.html?mcubz=0

    Well India, would have been better off had they let the white British stay. But Nationalist Ghandi, was full of fear and loathing of all things white immigrant, that he had them leave. The same goes for Africa. They are so full of fear of white migrants. I think it may be a world wide phenomenon.

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  97. Yak-15 says:

    If your history and present are filled with incompetents who do little more than detract from the common good and halt the progress of knowledge and science, why not take aim at the more successful?

    It’s one thing to be a worthless parasite, it’s another to be actively trying to destroy your host.

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    Yes, Generally parasites don't kill their host .
  98. yyrvjh says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    There are 3 factors behind the pro-immigration mania.

    1. Oligarchic economic interests (agribusiness, Silicon Valley, meatpackers, real estate developers, investors, etc.) want a growing population of workers and consumers. It's good for their bottom line. So they're naturally pro-migration. Many of the strongest immigration boosters are real estate developers from politically conservative, pro-business regions like SoCal, Atlanta, and Texas. Since oligarchs run the government and literally own the media, they get what they want.

    2. Modern day Americans care very little for their national identity, their people's history, or their nation's future. They're mostly concerned with making money, consumerism, and entertainment (sports, tv, social media, celebrities, music). They want to get rich, buy lots of stuff, go to NFL games, and brag about all of that on social media. There's a reason why hardly anybody in this country is aware of the H-1b visa, but everybody seems to be an expert on what it takes to win the BCS Championship game. Americans are, unfortunately, a frivolous people. Very few Americans know or care what Mehta wrote, but everybody cares about Beyoncé's newest rap video and the latest IPhone. The mobs of Rome mostly focused on chariots and games, while their rulers looted the empire and allowed the Germanic barbarians to encroach. Are today's entertainment-crazed Americans really much different?

    3. There are an enormous number of hyper resentful Jews who seem to have an eternal axe to grind with the white gentiles. Since Jews run a lot of the media (and a lot of institutions), their fervently anti-gentile views tend to be reflected in newspapers, magazines, and on tv. Even non-Jews get into the game of denouncing whites. Why? Ambitious status-striving careerists (such as Mehta) know that if they want to rise in their profession, they must please their masters. That means mouthing whatever ideology is being propagated by the (((inner party))). If he lived back in 80s era Russia, Mehta probably would've been a huge advocate for Communist economic policy. If he lived back in Medeival Europe, Mehta probably would've constantly defended the infalliblity of Church authorities. Lots of people are atomized status-strivers who'll say anything to please the ruling class. Since the Western ruling class these days is Jewish, you got to embrace their prejudices to get ahead.

    By the way, I've noticed a lot of South Asians (Indians, Pakis) rising in politics, media, and sitcoms/movies these days. Most especially, South Asian women.

    South Asians seem like an ethnic group who are clever, articulate, education-oriented, full of Tiger families, status-striving, prone to feminism, and unprincipled. So they're probably well situated to succeed in today's America.

    3. There are an enormous number of hyper resentful Jews who seem to have an eternal axe to grind with the white gentiles. Since Jews run a lot of the media (and a lot of institutions), their fervently anti-gentile views tend to be reflected in newspapers, magazines, and on tv. Even non-Jews get into the game of denouncing whites. Why? Ambitious status-striving careerists (such as Mehta) know that if they want to rise in their profession, they must please their masters. That means mouthing whatever ideology is being propagated by the (((inner party))). If he lived back in 80s era Russia, Mehta probably would’ve been a huge advocate for Communist economic policy. If he lived back in Medeival Europe, Mehta probably would’ve constantly defended the infalliblity of Church authorities. Lots of people are atomized status-strivers who’ll say anything to please the ruling class. Since the Western ruling class these days is Jewish, you got to embrace their prejudices to get ahead.

    Yes, that claim is part of the Sailer Doctrine. It is also believed by many paleoconservatives and nearly everyone on the “Alt-Right”. But what if it isn’t true? What if Jewish support for open borders tracked closely their representation in the urban upper middle class (what used to be called “Yuppies”, except they’re no longer all young), which is among the principal advocates and beneficiaries of open borders? (Note the complete absence of Catholics and mainline Protestants from your list, though vastly more numerous.)

    What if the people calling the shots in the media are the advertisers — corporations making consumer products, always hungry for GDP growth — not the journalists? What if journalism is actually a lousy job that not so many besides the left half of the Jewish bell curve can and will do for the pay?

    What if your (and Steve’s) belief that Jews are the ruling elite is a paranoid fantasy unsupported by hard data and statistics?

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  99. 11 Bravo says:

    … All hail Western civilization, which gave the world the genocide of the Native Americans, slavery, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, Hiroshima, and global warming.

    I am surprised he didn’t throw in the Salem Witch Trials.

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  100. I’ve noticed the hostility from Hindus towards white Americans before, and my best guess is that many just hate all whites and Europeans because of their experiences with the British. How unracist of them! Let them go back to India and make something of it. America is a much better place without them.

    I counter the Zeroth Amendment with the Oilcan Amendment which states that anyone not having legal ancestors in the U.S. prior to 1960 is not a citizen, and is to be deported.

    Problem solved. I don’t want to make America great again. I want to make America America again. America is either given away, or it is taken back.

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    I’ve noticed the hostility from Hindus towards white Americans before, and my best guess is that many just hate all whites and Europeans because of their experiences with the British.

    One gets the impression however that their experiences with the British were rather positive. Objectively speaking, at least.
  101. 11 Bravo says:
    @Wilkey
    All hail Western civilization, which gave the world the genocide of the Native Americans, slavery, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, Hiroshima, and global warming. How hypocritical this whole debate about migration really is. The rich countries complain loudly about migration from the poor ones.

    It's funny how all Westerners are guilty of everything that's happened in all Western countries for all of history (even when our countries fought those evils, like the US and UK fought the Holocaust) but Third Worlders aren't guilty of shit happening in their countries today.

    BTW, the evil destruction of Hiroshima was only possible thanks to immigrants. Are we supposed to thank them or blame them?

    This is how the game was rigged: First they colonized us and stole our treasure and prevented us from building our industries. After plundering us for centuries, they left, having drawn up maps in ways that ensured permanent strife between our communities.

    Wait, wait, wait! "We" drew up maps guaranteeing them diversity! Diversity is a blessing!

    … Now, again, they ask us not to come, desperate and starving though they have rendered us, because the richest among them need a scapegoat.

    The richest among us want more and more of you, because the rich need their serfs. If you really want to piss off the rich then don't come here.

    the former U.N. undersecretary-general for communications and public information, gave a compelling Oxford Union speech that made the case for (symbolic) reparations owed by Britain to India. “India’s share of the world economy when Britain arrived on its shores was 23 percent. By the time the British left, it was down to below 4 percent. Why?” he asked. “Simply because India had been governed for the benefit of Britain. Britain’s rise for 200 years was financed by its depredations in India.”

    In 1617, when the British arrived in India, Isaac Newton was still 25 years from being born. By the time they left 330 years later British scientists and engineers had revolutionized, well, pretty much everything. What had India done? Would it have done much more than that if the British had never arrived?

    It's not that India's economy shrank during those 330 years. It's that the rest of the world's economy grew massively. Take two countries with economies of equal size. Country A grows at 3% per year and Country B grows at 4% per year. After 330 years County B's economy will be more than 24 times larger than that of Country A.

    It’s not that India’s economy shrank during those 330 years. It’s that the rest of the world’s economy grew massively.

    Yes, a similar analogy would be the demographic shift in the US population. In 1940 the USA had 140 million people of which about 85 percent were European. So there were approximately 119 million whites in the USA in 1940.

    Today the USA has over 190 million whites. There are in fact more white Americans today than at any time in our history. Yet the white percentage has gone from at least 85 percent down to 63 percent and falling.

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  102. @Yan Shen
    Sorry ran out of time to edit my previous post. I think the thrust of Mr. Mehta's argument is that in some sense nationalism would be easier to take seriously in the United States and Europe if those places hadn't invaded and colonized other parts of the world such as India or Africa.

    This isn't necessarily saying that a place like Africa would've been better off sans European intervention. I think a useful analogy to draw here is that of someone breaking into another person's house and trashing it, i.e. King Leopold II of Belgium, then later on proclaiming that all people are entitled to the privacy of their own homes. It doesn't really matter that the person whose house was trashed might not have been the most productive person to begin with.

    In fact, this kind of mentality isn't so far off from many of Steve's points of view. In general Steve seems to be an advocate for a more insular, self oriented national policy that avoids invading the world and subsequently inviting the world. I don't agree with the conclusions that Mr. Mehta draws, but I don't think we should necessarily dismiss some of his better points immediately out of hand.

    Then let him make those points in India. There is absolutely no reason for Americans to have to live with someone like Mehta. If his problem is with colonization, let him take it up with the Brits. Britain isn’t America.

    And if the third-world had the right to resist and expel European and American colonizers, then Europeans and Americans have the right to resist and expel their own colonizers. Talk about being hypocritical!

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  103. @Yan Shen
    Sorry ran out of time to edit my previous post. I think the thrust of Mr. Mehta's argument is that in some sense nationalism would be easier to take seriously in the United States and Europe if those places hadn't invaded and colonized other parts of the world such as India or Africa.

    This isn't necessarily saying that a place like Africa would've been better off sans European intervention. I think a useful analogy to draw here is that of someone breaking into another person's house and trashing it, i.e. King Leopold II of Belgium, then later on proclaiming that all people are entitled to the privacy of their own homes. It doesn't really matter that the person whose house was trashed might not have been the most productive person to begin with.

    In fact, this kind of mentality isn't so far off from many of Steve's points of view. In general Steve seems to be an advocate for a more insular, self oriented national policy that avoids invading the world and subsequently inviting the world. I don't agree with the conclusions that Mr. Mehta draws, but I don't think we should necessarily dismiss some of his better points immediately out of hand.

    Then let him make those points in India. There is absolutely no reason for Americans to have to live with someone like Mehta. If his problem is with colonization, let him take it up with the Brits. Britain isn’t America.

    And if the third-world had the right to resist and expel European and American colonizers, then Europeans and Americans have the right to resist and expel their own colonizers. Talk about being hypocritical!

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  104. Just another distraction, this people never will change their minds, just killing or interning them…

    When a psychotic-like person internalize something it’s mean will be very very difficult to anyone try to convince otherwise.

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  105. A new genre- ‘In Your Face, Whitey!’ by An Immigrant

    This goes in the file with Bret Stephens’ piece, ‘America is Of, By and For Immigrants,’ featuring the great line( I paraphrase), ‘Natives who don’t like it should get the F out.’

    I notice they never taunt black Americans, who have been here as long as anyone and so are presumably just as stale. Maybe it’s because blacks are presumed allies.

    Boy are black Americans in for a shock when they experience the generosity of high-caste Indians towards their inferiors, or Euro Latins.

    As usual, they’ll be the last to realize they’ve been bamboozled. I wonder who they’ll take it out on?

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  106. Jason Liu says:

    Mehta doesn’t really say anything new. Ethnic nationalism is always more important than economic growth. That dismantles pretty much the entire article.

    However, he does subconsciously admit something by association: Liberal democratic countries with all the comfort of “rights”, “equalities” and “freedoms” are also the ones replacing their natives with outsiders.

    That is not evidence of pluralism’s superiority, but evidence of liberal democracy’s inferiority.

    Also, Mehta admits that the western economic model is only more successful because of mass immigration, not because of any inherent structural differences or economic practices. Another damning assault on western modernity.

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    Ethnic nationalism is always more important than economic growth.

    Could you please offer your argument for this? It is not exactly a common or noncontroversial proposition.

    Also, Mehta admits that the western economic model is only more successful because of mass immigration, not because of any inherent structural differences or economic practices. Another damning assault on western modernity.

    How exactly is this damning? Couldn't immigration be considered part of its structural posture?

    Fascinating post.

  107. MEH 0910 says:
    @Tiny Duck
    The truth is that white people are fake Americans. People of Color have made all contributions and advancements to the country. It is the white man that has done nothing but stolen and plundered. You shouldn't feel demographic change just because you cannot keep up with superior people

    Tiny Duck, you got mentioned by Mr. Sailer himself:

    Although it sounds as if it could be written by iSteve commenter Tiny Duck, it appears to be completely serious:

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  108. @JohnnyWalker123
    There are 3 factors behind the pro-immigration mania.

    1. Oligarchic economic interests (agribusiness, Silicon Valley, meatpackers, real estate developers, investors, etc.) want a growing population of workers and consumers. It's good for their bottom line. So they're naturally pro-migration. Many of the strongest immigration boosters are real estate developers from politically conservative, pro-business regions like SoCal, Atlanta, and Texas. Since oligarchs run the government and literally own the media, they get what they want.

    2. Modern day Americans care very little for their national identity, their people's history, or their nation's future. They're mostly concerned with making money, consumerism, and entertainment (sports, tv, social media, celebrities, music). They want to get rich, buy lots of stuff, go to NFL games, and brag about all of that on social media. There's a reason why hardly anybody in this country is aware of the H-1b visa, but everybody seems to be an expert on what it takes to win the BCS Championship game. Americans are, unfortunately, a frivolous people. Very few Americans know or care what Mehta wrote, but everybody cares about Beyoncé's newest rap video and the latest IPhone. The mobs of Rome mostly focused on chariots and games, while their rulers looted the empire and allowed the Germanic barbarians to encroach. Are today's entertainment-crazed Americans really much different?

    3. There are an enormous number of hyper resentful Jews who seem to have an eternal axe to grind with the white gentiles. Since Jews run a lot of the media (and a lot of institutions), their fervently anti-gentile views tend to be reflected in newspapers, magazines, and on tv. Even non-Jews get into the game of denouncing whites. Why? Ambitious status-striving careerists (such as Mehta) know that if they want to rise in their profession, they must please their masters. That means mouthing whatever ideology is being propagated by the (((inner party))). If he lived back in 80s era Russia, Mehta probably would've been a huge advocate for Communist economic policy. If he lived back in Medeival Europe, Mehta probably would've constantly defended the infalliblity of Church authorities. Lots of people are atomized status-strivers who'll say anything to please the ruling class. Since the Western ruling class these days is Jewish, you got to embrace their prejudices to get ahead.

    By the way, I've noticed a lot of South Asians (Indians, Pakis) rising in politics, media, and sitcoms/movies these days. Most especially, South Asian women.

    South Asians seem like an ethnic group who are clever, articulate, education-oriented, full of Tiger families, status-striving, prone to feminism, and unprincipled. So they're probably well situated to succeed in today's America.
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  109. There are several different levels on which you can analyze this stuff.

    On one level, maybe it’s just click-bait, deliberately over-the-top.

    On a second level, it’s just basic negotiation tactics which (unfortunately) work really well on gullible Gentiles in the West. If someone makes you an initial offer of 2 billion (even if what you’re selling is only worth 1 billion), you act insulted in the hopes of getting 4 billion. This guy is just a clever Indian con-man who is hoping to not just bring in his extended family, but maybe 1/4 the population of Mumbai as well.

    Finally, there is a diabolical “logic” to what he’s saying. If Western Europeans essentially created the modern world, stealing the good stuff from soulful colored people, and inventing the evil stuff because we are evil, e.g. climate change, racism, etc. if we Westerners all just off’d ourselves all the world’s problems would magically disappear. It’s insane, but if you buy the loony premises, there is a certain consistency to it.

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  110. Yak-15 says:

    This Indian guy is definitely correct. The more than nine generations of my ancestors who settled, built and defended this country did so for masses of unrelated people from an alien culture.

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  111. @JohnnyWalker123
    A few years ago, Obama said Israel should go back to its 1967 borders. Massive controversy ensued, during which both the Republican and Democratic parties broke with Obama and sided with Netanyahu.

    Even liberal Democratic rocker Gene Simmons was angry at Obama.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YK7UGytvs8

    I thought entertainers were liberal. I don't know they could be so defensive of borders.

    Very strange.

    The only thing “liberal” about the anti-drug teetotaler Israeli born Gene Simmons are his rationalizations of his years spent banging intoxicated teenage groupies.

    Ever listen to Simmons pontificate??? He is an otherwise neo-con ultra-zionist globalist out to exploit America for whatever he can.

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  112. Luke Lea says:

    The debate has already begun:

    Mass third-world immigration is inevitable vs. No it is not.

    Biometric visas and national ID’s are probably the best, maybe the only practical way to enforce our immigration laws (which of course can be changed). Make it impossible for illegal immigrants to function (use a credit card, cash a check, pay for groceries with cash, etc) without first producing proof they have a right to be in the country.

    Replace our cardboard Social Security cards now! ACLU will argue Big Brother, but let the voters decide.

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    Biometric visas and national ID’s are probably the best, maybe the only practical way to enforce our immigration laws (which of course can be changed).
     
    Or simply put their employers in prison and provide financial rewards for patriots who tip off the enforcers.
    , @Altai
    Just look at Denmark, it has had more restrictive laws since the 90s and thus a conspicuously lower rate of immigration and false asylum claimants. This was due to the main anti-immigration party managing to get control and influence on immigration law in contrast to the rest of Europe, just in time before the massive wave began to crest in the early 2000s.

    Copenhagen is about 75% ethnic Danish. Try finding another big city in Western Europe with similar figures for the native population. (It's proportion of white is around 85%, similar to Dublin but Dublin has around only 49% Irish) All this and with one of the most extensive welfare states in the world and freedom of movement granted to hundreds of millions of EU citizens and best human development outcomes in the world. (They even forwent the embargo of granting freedom of movement to the 8 former Warsaw Pact countries in 2004 for 5 years, yet their existing laws still deterred the tidal wave that came to the UK and Ireland) By the economists logic it should be swarming with immigrants. Not to say it doesn't have immigrants and that they don't cause problems, (North Africans and Arabs have introduce a level of violence and organised crime unheard of before.) but the numbers have been much lower than the rest of Western Europe.

    Funny how having laws deterring immigration has the effect of deterring immigration...

    , @Daniel Chieh
    Death is inevitable. So we should not do anything that averts death, indeed, we should welcome death.

    That's basically the level of argumentation that we're dealing with at this point.

    , @Kurlos
    Why are our SS cards not plastic and attached to a passcode?
  113. @guest
    Couldn't they have them sailing into Ellis Island, or better yet Plymouth Rock?

    Instead, they're on the warpath. Who are the people in that boat going to kill in their sleep? Me?

    They are off to leverage the plunder of one white nation to plunder the next. And this is their motivation, the picture doesn’t show the jews directing the operation from the beachheads they established over the past centuries.

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  114. biz says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Mysteriously, Israel seems to have avoided this non-white immigrant supremacy. Israel is, for all practical purposes, a White nationalist ethnostate. If Jared Taylor or David Duke could create their own ideal country, it'd operate very similarly to Israel.

    Even more mysteriously, there seems to be massive overlap between pro-Israel intellectuals/politicians and pro-immigrant supremacists. I wonder how they reconcile support for a White nationalist homeland with their emphatic love of third word migration into Western countries.

    It's all very mysterious. Maybe someday I'll be able to figure this all out.

    Japan and South Korea too. And Taiwan.

    There isn’t some giant conspiracy to rub Israel in your face. If a country’s populace really wants to control immigration, it can simply elect governments that will do so, and it will happen (unless hemmed in by EU rules). Israel, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan have all elected such governments, repeatedly. To an extent Australia has done so as well, for while they do have legal and high skill immigration, unlike countries in Europe they are very strict against anyone arriving outside of the rules.

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  115. @william munny
    Whenever I read this stuff, which is becoming more frequent, I wonder how this ends. Sometimes I feel like the open borders people are overplaying their collective hand because they are out of touch, and saner heads will prevail. Sometimes I feel like they already won. Either way, I don't see the purpose of this type of article. If it is designed to convince, it is terribly unpersuasive. If it is designed to gloat, it only breeds resentment, unnecessarily. Maybe nothing more than getting clicks and backpats.

    What I wonder is if the entire readership “Foreign Affairs” is made up of Globalists, Neo-Cons, and Cuckold Porn Fetishists.

    Whose Foreign Affairs are we talking about here? From whose perspective and therefore perhaps interest are we concerned with?

    Is there the slightest hope that some member of the Council of Foreign Relations membership is a former graduate of our service academies who is sick of this insanity and might just want lead a revolution against it?

    Where is George Washington when you need him most???

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    Where is George Washington when you need him most???
     
    He was in Chile within living memory.
  116. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “India’s share of the world economy when the UK arrived on its shores was 23 percent; by the time the British left it was down to about 4 percent,” Tharoor said at Oxford.

    This ludicrous retconqualification of 17. Century India presenting one quarter of World’s Economy is based on one and only study that was done by University of Groningen’s professor Angus Maddison who spent most of his life as a policy advisor for various institutions, including the governments of Ghana, Pakistan, Brazil, Guinea, Mongolia, and the USSR.

    Dr. Fashi Tharoor quacks, walks, and dresses like some missing extras from the Fifth Element,
    therefore he must be Tiny Indian Duck to whom, in Western Society non-existing luxury of being fully accepted as a Nationalist First , and as Scholar Second was generously extended by the Foreign Policy Enemies Among Us:

    India
    1500- 110,000
    1700 – 165,000
    1800 – 209,000
    359,00

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  117. Yan Shen says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Given how sophisticated cartels are these days, I doubt a wall along the southern border would stop anything.
     
    Yes, so instead, we should do nothing. Do you even read what you write?

    Mr. Mehta is patently ridiculous, starting with "this land is their land." The only thing that should be done is to signal boost his article so the acceleration can take its course.

    When my grandmother came to the United States, her attitude was the appropriate one: "We are guests. And as a guests, try to dress a little nicer, act a little nicer, and respect the hosts that you live with." Things change, but the overall attitude is overall sensible.

    The attitude of someone who moves into your home and then demands more while trashing your place, if short of being an outright brigand, is at least that of spoiled child.

    I guess you obviously don’t read what I write either, including where I stated that I fundamentally disagreed with Mr. Mehta’s conclusions about the value or necessity of immigration.

    My only point was that Mr. Mehta was correct in pointing out that some of the problems we face today are due to America’s invade the world attitude, which quite frankly isn’t all that different from what Steve himself has pointed out. If you don’t want to have to invite the world, then maybe you shouldn’t invade the world either. See Mr. Mehta’s point about the Iraq war. His point about American demand for Latin American drugs was also on the mark, something which Steve failed to understand.

    The attitude of someone who moves into your home and then demands more while trashing your place, if short of being an outright brigand, is at least that of spoiled child.

    Agree, but I also think that Mr. Mehta has a point in arguing that colonialism makes that complaint a little bit harder to take seriously. Please read my 2nd followup post. That being said, I fundamentally don’t think any countries are morally obligated to accept immigrants because they have a prior history of colonialism, but at the very least it would be nice to be cognizant of this fact when having a conversation.

    Agree with your grandmother that in general when in Rome, do as the Romans do. I’m not a huge fan of immigrants trying to force their own native cultures upon the host nation, as Muslim immigrants to Europe sometimes try to do. That being said, I wouldn’t exactly go so far as to totally bend over either. But perhaps that’s what you, your grandmother, etc. like doing, so different strokes for different folks.

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    That being said, I wouldn’t exactly go so far as to totally bend over either. But perhaps that’s what you, your grandmother, etc. like doing, so different strokes for different folks.
     
    If true, then you richly deserve whatever fate your hosts decide for you. Only an imbecile goes to a foreign nation and refuses to abide their customs absent the ability to militarily dominate and destroy that culture. This has been the fundamental lesson of the Wandering Jews throughout history. Smart Jews assimilate and become one with their hosts (i.e. Ron Unz) but almost inevitably become tarred by the same brush as their co-ethnics who foment discord and insurrection. Which of America's or Europe's invaders can militarily dominate white men?
    , @Daniel Chieh
    So when China finishes her "String of Pearls" and One Belt One Road connects through cleanly, and India still can't get out of her squalor because of reason reasons, I look forward to you defending subcontinentals immigrating into China illegally en masse because China has clearly been competing in a truly hostile way that harms millions of people from less developed countries.

    By all means, reduce the excesses of invite the world, invade the world.

    But its not an endless excuse to let people do whatever they want in your home. Oh yeah, and I also look forward to you advocating for more social change from NGOs in China, because hey, why not let them promote whatever they want without regard for the present occupants?

    , @Anonymous

    His point about American demand for Latin American drugs was also on the mark, something which Steve failed to understand.
     
    What utter bollocks! Do we look back in history and blame the Chinese for their demand of opium that turned the British into a narco state, and blame the Chinese for their invasion by their Narco suppliers? No, we all know damn well that the Brits got all the blame, and rightly so. What they did was evil. So why the double standard here? When it comes to drugs, the supply creates the demand, not the other way around. Drug pushers hire kids to give free drugs to other kids at parties, starting from even middle school and esp. through college. Once they get hooked, they start charging.

    Mexico could've easily chosen an honest living, develop their own industries, like China, Japan, Korea, or any of the Asian tigers, but they chose the easy way out, and now want to pin the blame on us while poisoning our kids. I'm sick of the libtards putting all the blames on the US. When it comes to drugs, the supply creates the demand, not the other way around. Libtards like Mehta need to get it through their thick skulls. Especially given your Chinese background, you would be wise to stop parroting that idiotic mantra.

  118. songbird says:

    I doubt if Mr. Mehta could explain how Ireland and Korea were colonies and both seem to be substantially more prosperous than India, on a per capita basis.

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  119. @Opinionator
    I've observed that subcons (India and Pakistan) possess some of the most jealous, hateful, and vicious attitudes toward Whites of all immigrant groups.

    I’ve observed that subcons (India and Pakistan) possess some of the most jealous, hateful, and vicious attitudes toward Whites of all immigrant groups.

    I wonder if that is due to whites having the light skin that is so prized in their culture but a non-issue to whites. We just have white skin. It just is. We don’t really care that much about it. To them it is a big big deal to have light skin, and we just have it, both the clever and the dull, the high and the low. I know some light skinned Indians and they are all, every last one, married to other light skinned Indians.

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    I have heard that about other cultures. Not just subcontinentals. Why is light skin so prized?
  120. @JohnnyWalker123
    Today's Southerners don't have time for Senator Benjamin Tillman's prejudice.

    They want a bunch of black athletes to come to their alma matter Ole Miss and win the BCS Cup.

    It's not always "white guilt" or nobility that's leading to the downfall of the West. In many cases, it's ruinous entertainment obsession. I bet Tillman's descendants are cool with anyone who can help Ole Miss beat LSU. Football players are the real heroes.

    If you take down the Confederate statues, whatever. As long as they can tailgate at Ole Miss games, the "Sons of the South" will still be happy.

    If you take down the Confederate statues, whatever. As long as they can tailgate at Ole Miss games, the “Sons of the South” will still be happy.

    Not just Southerners, look at all Ag. Farmers are the biggest welfare queens in America. Look at Nebraska, Iowa, and Kansas. Proud American farmers, the salt of the earth and all that, worshipping African idols and collecting billions in welfare while proudly proclaiming their patriotism and independence.

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  121. Harold says:
    @Bubba
    I'm about to die from irony poisoning. This virtue signaling clown comes from one of the most racist, 3rd world countries with one of the highest income inequality gaps and says the entire West is racist? Hmmm... what's the Marathi word for "chutzpah"?


    Don’t forget slavery. There are 20-30 million slaves in the world today. About half of them live in India.

    When I first heard this I thought the numbers would be inflated by some leftist definition of ‘slavery’. Looking into it I found that, no, it means slavery slavery.

    How come Whites are supposed to feel ashamed because their co-ethnics engaged in slavery centuries ago, but Indians are not supposed to be ashamed because their co-ethnics engage in slavery today?

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    How come Whites are supposed to feel ashamed because their co-ethnics engaged in slavery centuries ago, but Indians are not supposed to be ashamed because their co-ethnics engage in slavery today?
     
    Well I'm glad you asked (even though it was obviously rhetorical):

    Nobody is jealous of or humiliated by India's achievements.
  122. @Luke Lea
    The debate has already begun:

    Mass third-world immigration is inevitable vs. No it is not.

    Biometric visas and national ID's are probably the best, maybe the only practical way to enforce our immigration laws (which of course can be changed). Make it impossible for illegal immigrants to function (use a credit card, cash a check, pay for groceries with cash, etc) without first producing proof they have a right to be in the country.

    Replace our cardboard Social Security cards now! ACLU will argue Big Brother, but let the voters decide.

    Biometric visas and national ID’s are probably the best, maybe the only practical way to enforce our immigration laws (which of course can be changed).

    Or simply put their employers in prison and provide financial rewards for patriots who tip off the enforcers.

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    "Or simply put their employers in prison and provide financial rewards for patriots who tip off the enforcers."

    When it comes to hiring illegals, employers have a major conflict of interest, as has already been demonstrated. This conflict would not exist in the case of cashiers in a check-out line or branch bank managers (assuming that ID would be required to open up a bank account). Also compliance could be monitored much more easily.

    , @peterike

    Or simply put their employers in prison and provide financial rewards for patriots who tip off the enforcers.

     

    Of you could make a Federal law that anyone with an illegal immigration status will be considered an invading enemy, given a military trial (no jury) and, upon being found guilty, executed the same day.

    Sure, sure, you'd end up executing say 10 or 20 people. But after that, they'd all be gone.
  123. ichris says:

    I clearly recall the outrage of the Indians if a white actor got too touchy-feely with their Bollywood actresses.

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  124. Israel: the true third-rail of US politics! Some issues are no-go areas even for our first affirmative action President. Even the caucus of colored congress critters has learned to behave circumspectly, after Cynthia McKinney was immolated by AIPAC, both as a condign punishment and an example to the not sufficiently wary.

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    I remember when Netanyahu spoke to Congress I wondered if there was a method so that the first representative or senator to cease clapping would not be noted.
  125. @Yan Shen

    Maybe we should stop them coming here to sell us their drugs by building, you know, a Wall?
     
    Not sure I get that. I think Mr. Mehta's point was that American demand for drugs in part fuels the violence of the cartels in Latin America, which contributes to some of the chaos that leads Latin Americans to want to flee to the United States. Given how sophisticated cartels are these days, I doubt a wall along the southern border would stop anything.

    I disagree with Mr. Mehta's assertion that immigration is somehow essential or a moral obligation for any particular nation. I certainly think he's wrong about the value that certain ethnic refugees bring to their host countries and in some cases makes patently false claims about how such refugees commit crimes at lower rates capita than native born Europeans.

    However, I do agree with his claim that a non-trivial amount of suffering in the world has been caused by our invade the world mentality. We can disagree with Mr. Mehta's conclusions but at the same time acknowledge that we need to introspect upon our own role in causing many of the very problems we seem to be complaining about.

    I do agree with his claim that a non-trivial amount of suffering in the world has been caused by our invade the world mentality.

    True, but mainly because they’re too stupid to take advantage of the many many gifts we’ve given them such as clean water, germ theory of disease, agriculture, medicines, etc. Instead, they’ve guaranteed that billions will unnecessarily die of famine, plagues, and warfare.

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  126. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    I can’t be the only one who finds it funny that the author of this piece won a Whiting Award in 1997.

    A WHITING AWARD.

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  127. Altai says:
    @Luke Lea
    The debate has already begun:

    Mass third-world immigration is inevitable vs. No it is not.

    Biometric visas and national ID's are probably the best, maybe the only practical way to enforce our immigration laws (which of course can be changed). Make it impossible for illegal immigrants to function (use a credit card, cash a check, pay for groceries with cash, etc) without first producing proof they have a right to be in the country.

    Replace our cardboard Social Security cards now! ACLU will argue Big Brother, but let the voters decide.

    Just look at Denmark, it has had more restrictive laws since the 90s and thus a conspicuously lower rate of immigration and false asylum claimants. This was due to the main anti-immigration party managing to get control and influence on immigration law in contrast to the rest of Europe, just in time before the massive wave began to crest in the early 2000s.

    Copenhagen is about 75% ethnic Danish. Try finding another big city in Western Europe with similar figures for the native population. (It’s proportion of white is around 85%, similar to Dublin but Dublin has around only 49% Irish) All this and with one of the most extensive welfare states in the world and freedom of movement granted to hundreds of millions of EU citizens and best human development outcomes in the world. (They even forwent the embargo of granting freedom of movement to the 8 former Warsaw Pact countries in 2004 for 5 years, yet their existing laws still deterred the tidal wave that came to the UK and Ireland) By the economists logic it should be swarming with immigrants. Not to say it doesn’t have immigrants and that they don’t cause problems, (North Africans and Arabs have introduce a level of violence and organised crime unheard of before.) but the numbers have been much lower than the rest of Western Europe.

    Funny how having laws deterring immigration has the effect of deterring immigration…

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  128. @JohnnyWalker123
    Mysteriously, Israel seems to have avoided this non-white immigrant supremacy. Israel is, for all practical purposes, a White nationalist ethnostate. If Jared Taylor or David Duke could create their own ideal country, it'd operate very similarly to Israel.

    Even more mysteriously, there seems to be massive overlap between pro-Israel intellectuals/politicians and pro-immigrant supremacists. I wonder how they reconcile support for a White nationalist homeland with their emphatic love of third word migration into Western countries.

    It's all very mysterious. Maybe someday I'll be able to figure this all out.

    I think “IH” is “Israeli Hasbara”. I’m not sure what the “TG” remainder of the acronym might represent.

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    @94 Jus' Sayin: "I think “IH” is “Israeli Hasbara”. I’m not sure what the “TG” remainder of the acronym might represent."


    Years ago in another blog he kinda-sorta-ha-hah-aren't-I-clever claimed that it stood for "I Hate The Goys."
    , @Bill
    trans-gender, surely
  129. @JohnnyWalker123
    A few years ago, Obama said Israel should go back to its 1967 borders. Massive controversy ensued, during which both the Republican and Democratic parties broke with Obama and sided with Netanyahu.

    Even liberal Democratic rocker Gene Simmons was angry at Obama.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YK7UGytvs8

    I thought entertainers were liberal. I don't know they could be so defensive of borders.

    Very strange.

    Amazing that Gene Simmons, born Chaim Witz in Haifa, would turn out to be a supporter of Israel.

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  130. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Whiskey
    Essentially, Mehta is arguing for White Slavery. No not the sex kind though that too, but slavery of White men in serfdom to support the Third World. This is exactly as I predicted.

    Tiny Duck is always going on about how non-Whites don't like me. I don't care if they love or hate me -- they will want to enslave me just the same. I want them to FEAR me. And I want their #1 enablers, White women, to fear me and every other White man the same.

    It is oh so better, in so many ways, to be feared than loved. You don't see Africans migrating to Putin's Russia now do you? Why?

    Africans are AFRAID of Russians. Its better to be poor and violent and so dangerous that everyone leaves you alone, than to be wealthy and loved. It is best of all to be rich and feared, but we are not Japan.

    I will note with interest that the paragon of virtue, India, had one of its leading anti-government and anti-Hindu nationalist journalists shot and killed by assassins.

    They also incorporated the caste system. Which is hard to distinguish from garden variety apartheid.

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  131. @Anonymous

    “We are the creditors,” responded my grandfather, who was born in India, spent his working years in Kenya, and was now retired in London. “You took all our wealth, our diamonds. Now we have come to collect.”
     
    Surprisingly common pro-immigration argument in Britain.

    While the immigrant bad cop finger-wags at you, the Becca Hellers of this world play good cop:

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/08/what-a-just-immigration-policy-doesnt-look-like-trump-daca/

    What a Just Immigration Policy Doesn’t Look Like
    By Becca Heller September 8, 2017

    ... Immigration doesn’t have to be a partisan issue. We’ve allowed the rhetoric to become so polarized that many believe that there is a dichotomy between the working American in the Rust Belt trying to afford rising health insurance premiums and the immigrant trying to come over to seek a better opportunity, to contribute to America, or to flee persecution.

    What they want is essentially identical: to work hard and achieve happiness, safety, and security for themselves and their families. A founding premise of America is that this is a place for immigrants to come and start over.

     

    See, immigrants just want what you want! And totally not in a take it from you because you owe them kind of way. Mehta's just bustin' your balls. No, no -- you people are all in this together, stronger together, working for a better future! Think bundles of sticks, not crabs in buckets.

    “We are the creditors,” responded my grandfather, who was born in India, spent his working years in Kenya, and was now retired in London. “You took all our wealth, our diamonds. Now we have come to collect.”

    And the response to that should be, “You’ll be creditors when India and Pakistan ship back the infrastructure that Britons built and maintained for you, starting with the railroads, that in three-quarters of a century, India and Pakistan have not even managed to maintain in the state they were in when Britain gave them over.” The truth is that the British Raj was a very expensive status symbol that Britons sweated blood to maintain for no very good reason. The biggest contribution India made to Britain was a steady supply of saltpeter for gunpowder during the Napoleonic wars. And perhaps opium with which to buy Chinese tea.

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  132. Isn’t Mehta a Parsee name? Zubin Mehta was Parsee.

    At any rate, Suketu should suketu his own mehta.

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  133. @JohnnyWalker123
    Today's Southerners don't have time for Senator Benjamin Tillman's prejudice.

    They want a bunch of black athletes to come to their alma matter Ole Miss and win the BCS Cup.

    It's not always "white guilt" or nobility that's leading to the downfall of the West. In many cases, it's ruinous entertainment obsession. I bet Tillman's descendants are cool with anyone who can help Ole Miss beat LSU. Football players are the real heroes.

    If you take down the Confederate statues, whatever. As long as they can tailgate at Ole Miss games, the "Sons of the South" will still be happy.

    Today’s Southerners don’t have time for Senator Benjamin Tillman’s prejudice.

    They want a bunch of black athletes to come to their alma matter Ole Miss and win the BCS Cup.

    Remind them that football, like basketball, was invented by Canadians in Massachusetts.

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  134. nebulafox says:
    @MG
    What an embarrassing muddleheaded cretin, this fellow desi Mehta.

    Every tribe and tongue in the world has their embarrassments, my friend.

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  135. @Buzz Mohawk

    ...genocide of the Native Americans, slavery, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, Hiroshima, and global warming.
     
    The whole premise is wrong.

    The American Indians were tribesmen who were killing and sometimes even eating each other before our people got here. They routinely fought each other and took territory; our ancestors just comprised another tribe that entered the game and ended up winning the whole thing. That game has been going on all over the Earth as long as there have been people.

    Slavery definitely was NOT created by Western Civilization! I wonder how many of today's "educated" children even understand this. Apparently not Suketu Mehta.

    Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not even as bad as all the firebombing we did...so those are bad examples but popular choices for lazy pop writers.

    The Earth's climate has ALWAYS changed and always will, no matter what mankind does. No one has to prove that things are warming up; they have been since the last ice age. The thing to do is to prepare our descendants for the inevitable changes. You do that with the tools of the modern world created by Western Civilization, not by destroying and denying the ascendancy of that very civilization which might end up being the salvation of mankind.

    The whole premise is wrong.

    Wrong would be thinking that American slavery was somehow worse than say Arab slavery. These simpletons are not even wrong. Examples abound: “whites are destroying the planet” or “nazis killing Jews was worst atrocity ever” or “Amerinds were peaceful” etc are all not even wrong. They’re just laughable tropes for semi-literate retards. Our only chance of destroying the planet is probably CERN where we might accidentally discover the secret sauce to creating a black hole or Big Bang. Jews are just another tribe with a special talent for pissing off host nations who have allowed them in. Amerinds were just Stone Age savages who ate one another, lived in tents or caves, and shat where they ate. Etc…

    Virtually everything taught in western schools today falls under the “not even wrong” category and those who can see (or Notice) are purged. We live under the Tyranny of Stupid.

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    What is the difference you are seeing among a trope and something that is wrong and something that is not wrong?
  136. @Harold
    http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/Lightbox/published/7/images/THUMB.jpg

    Don’t forget slavery. There are 20-30 million slaves in the world today. About half of them live in India.

    When I first heard this I thought the numbers would be inflated by some leftist definition of ‘slavery’. Looking into it I found that, no, it means slavery slavery.

    How come Whites are supposed to feel ashamed because their co-ethnics engaged in slavery centuries ago, but Indians are not supposed to be ashamed because their co-ethnics engage in slavery today?

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Modern_incidence_of_slavery.png/800px-Modern_incidence_of_slavery.png

    How come Whites are supposed to feel ashamed because their co-ethnics engaged in slavery centuries ago, but Indians are not supposed to be ashamed because their co-ethnics engage in slavery today?

    Well I’m glad you asked (even though it was obviously rhetorical):

    Nobody is jealous of or humiliated by India’s achievements.

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  137. Is it too late to deport the rumpswab and his entire family back to the land they love so much?

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  138. Luke Lea says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Biometric visas and national ID’s are probably the best, maybe the only practical way to enforce our immigration laws (which of course can be changed).
     
    Or simply put their employers in prison and provide financial rewards for patriots who tip off the enforcers.

    “Or simply put their employers in prison and provide financial rewards for patriots who tip off the enforcers.”

    When it comes to hiring illegals, employers have a major conflict of interest, as has already been demonstrated. This conflict would not exist in the case of cashiers in a check-out line or branch bank managers (assuming that ID would be required to open up a bank account). Also compliance could be monitored much more easily.

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  139. In 2015, Shashi Tharoor, the former U.N. undersecretary-general for communications and public information, gave a compelling Oxford Union speech that made the case for (symbolic) reparations owed by Britain to India.
    India’s share of the world economy when Britain arrived on its shores was 23 percent. By the time the British left, it was down to below 4 percent.

    ” Why?” he asked.
    “Simply because India had been governed for the benefit of Britain. Britain’s rise for 200 years was financed by its depredations in India.”

    https://youtu.be/f7CW7S0zxv4?t=1m21s

    Dr. Fashi Tharoor quacks,walks, and dresses like some missing extras from the Fifth Element.

    Therefore, he must be Tiny Indian Duck to whom, in Western Society non-existing luxury of being fully accepted as a Nationalist First , and as Scholar Second was generously extended by the Foreign Policy Enemies Among Us:

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  140. ic1000 says:
    @Wilkey
    What's revealing is the number of these rants we're now starting to see from journalists and "academics" with names like, well, Suketu Mehta. It feels like I've read hundreds since Trump was elected.

    Once upon a time immigrants used to change their last names to make themselves appear to be more American (and to sincerely or otherwise) allay any doubts of their loyalty to this country. Nowadays they don't even bother to change their first names. An immigrant with no intention of assimilating to their new country - who adopts no customs or practices from his new country except for those which help him to make money - isn't an immigrant, he's an invader.

    > An immigrant with no intention of assimilating to their new country… isn’t an immigrant, he’s an invader.

    No, Suketu Mehta is a one-man Hate Group.

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  141. @Yan Shen
    I guess you obviously don't read what I write either, including where I stated that I fundamentally disagreed with Mr. Mehta's conclusions about the value or necessity of immigration.

    My only point was that Mr. Mehta was correct in pointing out that some of the problems we face today are due to America's invade the world attitude, which quite frankly isn't all that different from what Steve himself has pointed out. If you don't want to have to invite the world, then maybe you shouldn't invade the world either. See Mr. Mehta's point about the Iraq war. His point about American demand for Latin American drugs was also on the mark, something which Steve failed to understand.


    The attitude of someone who moves into your home and then demands more while trashing your place, if short of being an outright brigand, is at least that of spoiled child.
     
    Agree, but I also think that Mr. Mehta has a point in arguing that colonialism makes that complaint a little bit harder to take seriously. Please read my 2nd followup post. That being said, I fundamentally don't think any countries are morally obligated to accept immigrants because they have a prior history of colonialism, but at the very least it would be nice to be cognizant of this fact when having a conversation.

    Agree with your grandmother that in general when in Rome, do as the Romans do. I'm not a huge fan of immigrants trying to force their own native cultures upon the host nation, as Muslim immigrants to Europe sometimes try to do. That being said, I wouldn't exactly go so far as to totally bend over either. But perhaps that's what you, your grandmother, etc. like doing, so different strokes for different folks.

    That being said, I wouldn’t exactly go so far as to totally bend over either. But perhaps that’s what you, your grandmother, etc. like doing, so different strokes for different folks.

    If true, then you richly deserve whatever fate your hosts decide for you. Only an imbecile goes to a foreign nation and refuses to abide their customs absent the ability to militarily dominate and destroy that culture. This has been the fundamental lesson of the Wandering Jews throughout history. Smart Jews assimilate and become one with their hosts (i.e. Ron Unz) but almost inevitably become tarred by the same brush as their co-ethnics who foment discord and insurrection. Which of America’s or Europe’s invaders can militarily dominate white men?

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  142. @anonymous-antimarxist
    What I wonder is if the entire readership "Foreign Affairs" is made up of Globalists, Neo-Cons, and Cuckold Porn Fetishists.

    Whose Foreign Affairs are we talking about here? From whose perspective and therefore perhaps interest are we concerned with?

    Is there the slightest hope that some member of the Council of Foreign Relations membership is a former graduate of our service academies who is sick of this insanity and might just want lead a revolution against it?

    Where is George Washington when you need him most???

    Where is George Washington when you need him most???

    He was in Chile within living memory.

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  143. Foreign Policy magazine was founded by Harvard history and government policy professor Samuel Huntington, who taught there for 50 years prior to his passing in 2008. Huntington was anything but a rabid pro-immigration hawk. In fact, in his book Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order, Huntington proffered that the world is dividing itself into 7 civilizations – Western, African, Latin American, Muslim/Middle Eastern, East Asian, South Asian and Eastern (Russian) Orthodox, and he believed that the world will only see peace if these 7 regions operated entirely separately from one another, that the West does not try to meddle in the affairs of all other civilizations, and that it curtails immigration from other civilizations while focusing on assimilation. He was particularly alarmed by immigration to the west by Muslims. The book was written in 1996 and it’s amazing how prophetic it has become. If every member of Congress were required to read that book, we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in today.

    Huntington would roll over from his grave if he knew how the magazine he founded has been bastardized today, a complete opposite of everything he believed in.

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    Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations" seemed very theoretical at the time of publication. I recall some of our lesser lights, on the left and right, dismissing it for its backwardness. But he's since been vindicated on almost every point; truly a remarkable intellectual achievement. Hard to believe it's been around for 20 years.
  144. @Luke Lea
    The debate has already begun:

    Mass third-world immigration is inevitable vs. No it is not.

    Biometric visas and national ID's are probably the best, maybe the only practical way to enforce our immigration laws (which of course can be changed). Make it impossible for illegal immigrants to function (use a credit card, cash a check, pay for groceries with cash, etc) without first producing proof they have a right to be in the country.

    Replace our cardboard Social Security cards now! ACLU will argue Big Brother, but let the voters decide.

    Death is inevitable. So we should not do anything that averts death, indeed, we should welcome death.

    That’s basically the level of argumentation that we’re dealing with at this point.

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  145. Kurlos says:
    @Luke Lea
    The debate has already begun:

    Mass third-world immigration is inevitable vs. No it is not.

    Biometric visas and national ID's are probably the best, maybe the only practical way to enforce our immigration laws (which of course can be changed). Make it impossible for illegal immigrants to function (use a credit card, cash a check, pay for groceries with cash, etc) without first producing proof they have a right to be in the country.

    Replace our cardboard Social Security cards now! ACLU will argue Big Brother, but let the voters decide.

    Why are our SS cards not plastic and attached to a passcode?

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  146. @Yan Shen
    I guess you obviously don't read what I write either, including where I stated that I fundamentally disagreed with Mr. Mehta's conclusions about the value or necessity of immigration.

    My only point was that Mr. Mehta was correct in pointing out that some of the problems we face today are due to America's invade the world attitude, which quite frankly isn't all that different from what Steve himself has pointed out. If you don't want to have to invite the world, then maybe you shouldn't invade the world either. See Mr. Mehta's point about the Iraq war. His point about American demand for Latin American drugs was also on the mark, something which Steve failed to understand.


    The attitude of someone who moves into your home and then demands more while trashing your place, if short of being an outright brigand, is at least that of spoiled child.
     
    Agree, but I also think that Mr. Mehta has a point in arguing that colonialism makes that complaint a little bit harder to take seriously. Please read my 2nd followup post. That being said, I fundamentally don't think any countries are morally obligated to accept immigrants because they have a prior history of colonialism, but at the very least it would be nice to be cognizant of this fact when having a conversation.

    Agree with your grandmother that in general when in Rome, do as the Romans do. I'm not a huge fan of immigrants trying to force their own native cultures upon the host nation, as Muslim immigrants to Europe sometimes try to do. That being said, I wouldn't exactly go so far as to totally bend over either. But perhaps that's what you, your grandmother, etc. like doing, so different strokes for different folks.

    So when China finishes her “String of Pearls” and One Belt One Road connects through cleanly, and India still can’t get out of her squalor because of reason reasons, I look forward to you defending subcontinentals immigrating into China illegally en masse because China has clearly been competing in a truly hostile way that harms millions of people from less developed countries.

    By all means, reduce the excesses of invite the world, invade the world.

    But its not an endless excuse to let people do whatever they want in your home. Oh yeah, and I also look forward to you advocating for more social change from NGOs in China, because hey, why not let them promote whatever they want without regard for the present occupants?

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    Don't really get what you're trying to say here. Nothing that China is doing today, even in Africa, remotely resembles the colonialism of yore, lest you want to brush up on some of King Leopold II's depredations in the Congo. If countries can't compete against China's legitimate modernization drive, that seems to me to be their problem. I don't see China as being particularly interested in global territorial aggrandizement, outside of what they construe to be nearby access points vital to their national interests. But I defer to the experts on whether or not any or all of these territorial claims have legitimacy.

    By all means, reduce the excesses of invite the world, invade the world.

    But its not an endless excuse to let people do whatever they want in your home.
     

    Isn't that pretty much what I've said in my 2-3 posts above? Maybe you can continue to just repeat my words. In other words, you basically agree with me, but feel some compelling need to publicly signal that you're with the mainstream iSteve crowd here.
  147. @Jus' Sayin'...
    Israel: the true third-rail of US politics! Some issues are no-go areas even for our first affirmative action President. Even the caucus of colored congress critters has learned to behave circumspectly, after Cynthia McKinney was immolated by AIPAC, both as a condign punishment and an example to the not sufficiently wary.

    I remember when Netanyahu spoke to Congress I wondered if there was a method so that the first representative or senator to cease clapping would not be noted.

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  148. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Santoculto
    Just another distraction, this people never will change their minds, just killing or interning them...

    When a psychotic-like person internalize something it's mean will be very very difficult to anyone try to convince otherwise.

    Please explain.

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  149. @Stan d Mute

    The whole premise is wrong.
     
    Wrong would be thinking that American slavery was somehow worse than say Arab slavery. These simpletons are not even wrong. Examples abound: "whites are destroying the planet" or "nazis killing Jews was worst atrocity ever" or "Amerinds were peaceful" etc are all not even wrong. They're just laughable tropes for semi-literate retards. Our only chance of destroying the planet is probably CERN where we might accidentally discover the secret sauce to creating a black hole or Big Bang. Jews are just another tribe with a special talent for pissing off host nations who have allowed them in. Amerinds were just Stone Age savages who ate one another, lived in tents or caves, and shat where they ate. Etc...

    Virtually everything taught in western schools today falls under the "not even wrong" category and those who can see (or Notice) are purged. We live under the Tyranny of Stupid.

    What is the difference you are seeing among a trope and something that is wrong and something that is not wrong?

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  150. @Whiskey
    Essentially, Mehta is arguing for White Slavery. No not the sex kind though that too, but slavery of White men in serfdom to support the Third World. This is exactly as I predicted.

    Tiny Duck is always going on about how non-Whites don't like me. I don't care if they love or hate me -- they will want to enslave me just the same. I want them to FEAR me. And I want their #1 enablers, White women, to fear me and every other White man the same.

    It is oh so better, in so many ways, to be feared than loved. You don't see Africans migrating to Putin's Russia now do you? Why?

    Africans are AFRAID of Russians. Its better to be poor and violent and so dangerous that everyone leaves you alone, than to be wealthy and loved. It is best of all to be rich and feared, but we are not Japan.

    I will note with interest that the paragon of virtue, India, had one of its leading anti-government and anti-Hindu nationalist journalists shot and killed by assassins.

    You don’t see Africans migrating to Putin’s Russia now do you? Why?

    Actually you do, as this interesting article describes.

    https://www.gazeta.ru/social/2016/11/29/10385585.shtml

    Several thousand Africans show up every year. They aren’t treated well, but they still keep coming. A flood this big is going to spill over. There appears to be a nice scam going in Africa where unscrupulous individuals convince hopeful Africans that they’ve been selected to play for a Russian pro soccer team. The young player just needs to pay $3000-$4000 to the broker for the visa and travel. Once they get to Russia they have no money to go home.

    Russia also seems to be getting lots of Nigerian women who come on work or student visas and are then forced into prostitution. Presumably replacing the Ukrainian and Moldovan prostitutes who have gone to the EU, and the Russian prostitutes who have gone to China.

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    Does it not bother liberals how much uglier (apart from everything else) third-world immigration makes our countries?

    https://img.gazeta.ru/files3/19/10387019/TASS_11202935-pic905-895x505-39985.jpg
  151. @Joe Schmoe

    I’ve observed that subcons (India and Pakistan) possess some of the most jealous, hateful, and vicious attitudes toward Whites of all immigrant groups.
     
    I wonder if that is due to whites having the light skin that is so prized in their culture but a non-issue to whites. We just have white skin. It just is. We don't really care that much about it. To them it is a big big deal to have light skin, and we just have it, both the clever and the dull, the high and the low. I know some light skinned Indians and they are all, every last one, married to other light skinned Indians.

    I have heard that about other cultures. Not just subcontinentals. Why is light skin so prized?

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    @139 Opinionator: "I have heard that about other cultures. Not just subcontinentals. Why is light skin so prized?"

    Opinionator, have you ever considered doing something as fundamental as reading to answer any of your eternal, obvious, and oblivious questions? Even somthing as pozzed as Goolag or Wikipedia would prove informative in your case.

    Before some 'impartial' commenter like self-styled Numinous or his ilk pops up to reiterate it's all Whitey's fault, I'll merely note that India and China have a preference for fair skin going back many, many centuries. It's well-documented and had nothing to do with evil rayciss English colonizers. Beyond that, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
  152. Mister Mehta assumes he has a wide audience of guilty white liberals who will gobble up this aggressive whining. But history of the past two years shows us that Western man has turned: Finally, after decades of lap-dogging this kind of remorse-enhancement slop, we finally learned that indulging the world’s losers packing largely imaginary gripes in their vibrant knapsacks doesn’t work to our benefit. Sorry freeloader – you’re done. And number of non-brainwashed honkies who buy that clumsy little anecdote about your grandfather owning the arrogant whitey can be numbered on the digits of a quadruple amputee.

    I stopped reading foreign policy when it started to so profoundly suck a few years ago. Let Carlos Slim lap it up.

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  153. @Nico
    Pretty dangerous: remember Nero was killed in a palace coup after saying he wished only to be feared, not to be loved. The ideal is to be feared AND loved. Of course this squishy SJW let-everyone-in strategy is not the way forward. A few benevolent firing squads to disperse the unruly demanding crowds at a few key points should be sufficient, repeating as necessary every few months/years to make sure the message stays imprinted.

    Case in point: Donald Trump. While Islamic terrorist attacks continue to rage across the West, they have mysteriously stopped in the U.S. since Trump's election. And have never taken hold in Hungary, Czechia or Poland. Why? Simple: you don't hit people who demonstrate the means AND the will to retaliate. But the four aforementioned are scarcely as bloodthirsty as Rome of Old.

    And have never taken hold in Hungary, Czechia or Poland. Why? Simple: you don’t hit people who demonstrate the means AND the will to retaliate.

    No, it’s because these countries took the obvious and simple step of just not letting many Muslims in. It is hard to imagine a people less likely to retaliate than the wussy Czechs.

    Russia has the means and the will to retaliate, and Islamic terrorism still takes place there. Segregation is simply the best and most humane answer.

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    • Replies: @Nico
    True enough. Though plenty of terrorists in France are born in the country and the Schengen Agreement would make it quite cakey to access the Central European countries if they so desired. The principal problem of course would be moving undetected.

    And there are different means of retaliation. The dearth of Muslims in those countries means there are no local "communities" to retaliate against and obviously the countries in question are in no position to start bombing abroad.

    Personally I'm in favor of dirty-bombing Mecca with pigs' blood and dog corpses.
  154. @OilcanFloyd
    I've noticed the hostility from Hindus towards white Americans before, and my best guess is that many just hate all whites and Europeans because of their experiences with the British. How unracist of them! Let them go back to India and make something of it. America is a much better place without them.

    I counter the Zeroth Amendment with the Oilcan Amendment which states that anyone not having legal ancestors in the U.S. prior to 1960 is not a citizen, and is to be deported.

    Problem solved. I don't want to make America great again. I want to make America America again. America is either given away, or it is taken back.

    I’ve noticed the hostility from Hindus towards white Americans before, and my best guess is that many just hate all whites and Europeans because of their experiences with the British.

    One gets the impression however that their experiences with the British were rather positive. Objectively speaking, at least.

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  155. @Anonymous
    Whiskey says blacks are afraid of Russians but much closer to home blacks are afraid of hispanics mostly Mexicans.

    SW blacks have mass emigrated to Atlanta because of fear. A strong black man can't date a latina in LA without paying a physical price.

    That is the reality on the street. Hispanics used direct action against blacks and now Hispanics control the city. This is a more intense version of the situation in Miami. But the SW Hispanics are very different from Caribbean Hispanics and so there is no coexistence possible.

    When the GOP primaries started, my wife told me that one of her elderly black patients had said she was planning to vote for Trump. When my wife asked why, the patient answered her in a single word: “Mexicans”. She also contributed this: “You only think you are living in America. You’re living in Mexico”. My wife came home that day and told me she thought Trump could win.

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  156. peterike says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Biometric visas and national ID’s are probably the best, maybe the only practical way to enforce our immigration laws (which of course can be changed).
     
    Or simply put their employers in prison and provide financial rewards for patriots who tip off the enforcers.

    Or simply put their employers in prison and provide financial rewards for patriots who tip off the enforcers.

    Of you could make a Federal law that anyone with an illegal immigration status will be considered an invading enemy, given a military trial (no jury) and, upon being found guilty, executed the same day.

    Sure, sure, you’d end up executing say 10 or 20 people. But after that, they’d all be gone.

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    Of you could make a Federal law that anyone with an illegal immigration status will be considered an invading enemy, given a military trial (no jury) and, upon being found guilty, executed the same day.
     
    That's the beauty of hammering their employers - no new laws required. Not sure about the rewards for tips, but that IS available under tax code and anybody employing illegals is almost guaranteed a tax cheat as well with false 941's and probably false reports of income as well.

    Besides, the treasonous employers belong in prison.
    , @Thea
    Indians in particular.

    Even Islam has more in common with western values than Hindu.
  157. DFH says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    You don’t see Africans migrating to Putin’s Russia now do you? Why?
     
    Actually you do, as this interesting article describes.

    https://www.gazeta.ru/social/2016/11/29/10385585.shtml

    Several thousand Africans show up every year. They aren't treated well, but they still keep coming. A flood this big is going to spill over. There appears to be a nice scam going in Africa where unscrupulous individuals convince hopeful Africans that they've been selected to play for a Russian pro soccer team. The young player just needs to pay $3000-$4000 to the broker for the visa and travel. Once they get to Russia they have no money to go home.

    Russia also seems to be getting lots of Nigerian women who come on work or student visas and are then forced into prostitution. Presumably replacing the Ukrainian and Moldovan prostitutes who have gone to the EU, and the Russian prostitutes who have gone to China.

    Does it not bother liberals how much uglier (apart from everything else) third-world immigration makes our countries?

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    "... our countries?"

     

    (bored identity got this one, Jack D !)

    Hmmm...bored identity is little bit concerned with a fact that Nigerian Princess and her daughter are reading a book of fairy tales....in Russian?!

    And why's there a model of S-400 at the table?

    Who sent you here, Tovarisch Petar?

    What's your real mission?

    When was a last time you met with Viktor Bout?

    Does DFH stand for Duma's Foreign Helper ?



    bored identity wants names!
  158. Yan Shen says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    So when China finishes her "String of Pearls" and One Belt One Road connects through cleanly, and India still can't get out of her squalor because of reason reasons, I look forward to you defending subcontinentals immigrating into China illegally en masse because China has clearly been competing in a truly hostile way that harms millions of people from less developed countries.

    By all means, reduce the excesses of invite the world, invade the world.

    But its not an endless excuse to let people do whatever they want in your home. Oh yeah, and I also look forward to you advocating for more social change from NGOs in China, because hey, why not let them promote whatever they want without regard for the present occupants?

    Don’t really get what you’re trying to say here. Nothing that China is doing today, even in Africa, remotely resembles the colonialism of yore, lest you want to brush up on some of King Leopold II’s depredations in the Congo. If countries can’t compete against China’s legitimate modernization drive, that seems to me to be their problem. I don’t see China as being particularly interested in global territorial aggrandizement, outside of what they construe to be nearby access points vital to their national interests. But I defer to the experts on whether or not any or all of these territorial claims have legitimacy.

    By all means, reduce the excesses of invite the world, invade the world.

    But its not an endless excuse to let people do whatever they want in your home.

    Isn’t that pretty much what I’ve said in my 2-3 posts above? Maybe you can continue to just repeat my words. In other words, you basically agree with me, but feel some compelling need to publicly signal that you’re with the mainstream iSteve crowd here.

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  159. Bullet points on India:

    - “The Great Partition” was designed to make India a majority Hindu nation and Pakistan a majority Muslim nation. The concept of the nation state of India was inherently tribal from birth. There is growing Hindu Nationalism in India. Make India Great Again. There is more blatant tribalism in Pakistan.

    - India had an official “shoot to kill” policy on their border with Bangladesh fairly recently. The global/western press hasn’t paid this issue much attention, but in 2011: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/libertycentral/2011/jan/23/india-bangladesh-border-shoot-to-kill-policy.

    - “According to a 2010 Human Rights Watch report, between 2001 and 2010 “India’s Border Security Force” personnel gunned down an estimated 900 Bangladeshis as they attempted to cross the border.” India is building a modern border fence/wall to stop human migration. http://thediplomat.com/2017/02/the-india-bangladesh-wall-lessons-for-trump/

    - The major pop culture movie featuring India, Slumdog Millionaire, featured a scene with Hindus killing Muslims. Apparently, those kind of tribal attacks regularly occur in both directions in India.

    The linked article is rather outrageous and wise for Steve Sailer to link to it.

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    Could you provide bullet points on Pakistan?
    , @nebulafox
    The Great Wall of Trump has nothing on what India is doing with Pakistan and Bangladesh right now. I know a guy who is currently discussing working on an electrical power grid plan on the Indo-Pakistani border. New Delhi is NOT screwing around. As you mentioned, the guards have full sanction to shoot to kill without question. People haven't forgotten who really helped fund the Mumbai attacks a decade ago.

    To the east, the Indians know full well that tens of millions of Bangladeshis pouring into West Bengal-still one of the poorest, most political violence filled states in India-would set off everything from communal violence to further economic poverty. And as the flooding grows, more and more will try. Hence, many Indians view walling off the place as the common sense measure to take.

  160. Old Jew says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Mehta is a parsee name isn't it?

    …. at least in the case of Zubin Mehta. (director Israel Philharmonic)

    wikipedia presents a list of notable Mehtas
    at:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehta

    I can not figure out how many of them are not Parsi.

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  161. Yan Shen says:

    Although it sounds as if it could be written by iSteve commenter Tiny Duck,

    Honestly Steve, sometimes I wonder if Tiny Duck isn’t just a troll deliberately trying to rile up the iSteve crowd here. On the other hand, Mr. Mehta makes a number of questionable points but a couple of good ones as well, i.e. invading the world leads to inviting the world.

    Batting even just a tiny bit above .000 probably makes it outside the reach of our friend Senor Pequeño Pato here.

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  162. “India’s share of the world economy when the UK arrived on its shores was 23 percent; by the time the British left it was down to about 4 percent,” Tharoor said at Oxford.

    Cry me the Ganges!

    This somehow ludicrous retcon-quantification of 17. Century India as being presented as One Quarter of World’s Economy is based on a single book that was authored by University of Groningen’s professor Angus Maddison – who spent most of his life as a policy advisor for various institutions, including the governments of Ghana, Pakistan, Brazil, Guinea, Mongolia, and the USSR.

    bored identity is not a scholar, nor a gentleman, so he will focus here on Dr. Therror Fashi’s attempt to claim that pre-British period India’s Moghul GDP wealth would have been used as transformative factor of social change benefiting a whole Indian society.

    While being very eager to use “23% We-Waz-Moghuls & Zamindars-Reconstructed-Stats” ,
    Dr. Fashi was not interested at all in sharing with Oxford Union Clappers any of professor Madison’s Noticing on the subject of India’s socio-political structure:

    From Madison’s book ” Contours of the World Economy 1-2030 AD” ( pgs. 120- 130 )

    “…The changes which he British made in the system of governance had major socioeconomic consequences.

    The British tookover a Moghul tax system which provided the elite with land revenue equal to 15 percent of national income.

    By the end of the colonial period, land tax was only 1 percent and the total tax burden, 6 per cent. The main gains from tax reduction and associated changes in property rights went to upper castes in the village economy, to zamindars who became landlords, and to village moneylenders.

    The wasteful warlord aristocracy of the Moghuls was eliminated, and replaced by a small westernized elite with a smaller share of national income. A residual group of cooperative princelings and maharajahs remained in the ‘native states’.

    Until the 1920s, the new elite was almost entirely British, with British consumption patterns. This reduced the demand for the luxury products of India’s traditional handcrafts.

    The damage to India’s main industry was reinforced in the nineteenth century from duty-free imports of British cotton textiles.

    In the first century of British rule, there was a continuation of the fall in per capita income which had started at the beginning of the eighteenth century as the Moghul state disintegrated.

    From 1857 to independence in 1947, there was a slow rise in per capita income, and accelerated population growth. Table 3.5 shows changes in income and population in India and Britain from 1600 to the end of colonial rule in 1947.

    This is how the game is now rigged,right?

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  163. Flip says:
    @Anon
    We need new definitions.

    Immigration: Arrival of people who are like you in identity and culture.

    So, Jews moving to Israel is immigration.

    Chinese moving to Taiwan or vice versa is immigration.

    Russians in Lithuania moving to Russia is immigration.

    When more Anglos and Northern Europeans arrived in the US, they were immigrants.
    When Southern/Eastern Europeans arrived, it was more difficult to assimilate, but because they were white and could easily melt into Anglo-Americanism, they too became immigrants.

    Immigration isn't threatening to a nation. When more Chinese arrive in Taiwan, Taiwan as a Chinese nation remains what it is. When more Jews arrive in Israel, they bolster the idea of Jewish state.

    ------------------------

    Colonization or Demographic Imperialism: Arrival of people who are different in race, culture, attitude, and etc. These people may be hostile, difficult to assimilate, or culturally ill-suited for the host nation. Also, MORE of these people undermine the very character and fabric of the native or nativist society. If Swedish Americans were to move to Sweden, they could assimilate pretty easily and melt in. But tons of Muslims and Africans threaten to forever alter the very identity and culture of Sweden.

    What we seeing now is NOT immigration. It is Colonization and Demographic Imperialist. It is Replacism that will destroy entire peoples and cultures.

    Ask the Mexicans how well inviting Americans to settle Texas worked out.

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  164. @Jason Liu
    Mehta doesn't really say anything new. Ethnic nationalism is always more important than economic growth. That dismantles pretty much the entire article.

    However, he does subconsciously admit something by association: Liberal democratic countries with all the comfort of "rights", "equalities" and "freedoms" are also the ones replacing their natives with outsiders.

    That is not evidence of pluralism's superiority, but evidence of liberal democracy's inferiority.

    Also, Mehta admits that the western economic model is only more successful because of mass immigration, not because of any inherent structural differences or economic practices. Another damning assault on western modernity.

    Ethnic nationalism is always more important than economic growth.

    Could you please offer your argument for this? It is not exactly a common or noncontroversial proposition.

    Also, Mehta admits that the western economic model is only more successful because of mass immigration, not because of any inherent structural differences or economic practices. Another damning assault on western modernity.

    How exactly is this damning? Couldn’t immigration be considered part of its structural posture?

    Fascinating post.

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  165. @Old Jew
    .... at least in the case of Zubin Mehta. (director Israel Philharmonic)

    wikipedia presents a list of notable Mehtas
    at:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehta

    I can not figure out how many of them are not Parsi.

    Always good to see Old Jew around these parts.

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  166. @Massimo Heitor
    Bullet points on India:

    - "The Great Partition" was designed to make India a majority Hindu nation and Pakistan a majority Muslim nation. The concept of the nation state of India was inherently tribal from birth. There is growing Hindu Nationalism in India. Make India Great Again. There is more blatant tribalism in Pakistan.

    - India had an official "shoot to kill" policy on their border with Bangladesh fairly recently. The global/western press hasn't paid this issue much attention, but in 2011: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/libertycentral/2011/jan/23/india-bangladesh-border-shoot-to-kill-policy.

    - "According to a 2010 Human Rights Watch report, between 2001 and 2010 "India’s Border Security Force" personnel gunned down an estimated 900 Bangladeshis as they attempted to cross the border." India is building a modern border fence/wall to stop human migration. http://thediplomat.com/2017/02/the-india-bangladesh-wall-lessons-for-trump/

    - The major pop culture movie featuring India, Slumdog Millionaire, featured a scene with Hindus killing Muslims. Apparently, those kind of tribal attacks regularly occur in both directions in India.

    The linked article is rather outrageous and wise for Steve Sailer to link to it.

    Could you provide bullet points on Pakistan?

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  167. @Yan Shen
    Don't really get what you're trying to say here. Nothing that China is doing today, even in Africa, remotely resembles the colonialism of yore, lest you want to brush up on some of King Leopold II's depredations in the Congo. If countries can't compete against China's legitimate modernization drive, that seems to me to be their problem. I don't see China as being particularly interested in global territorial aggrandizement, outside of what they construe to be nearby access points vital to their national interests. But I defer to the experts on whether or not any or all of these territorial claims have legitimacy.

    By all means, reduce the excesses of invite the world, invade the world.

    But its not an endless excuse to let people do whatever they want in your home.
     

    Isn't that pretty much what I've said in my 2-3 posts above? Maybe you can continue to just repeat my words. In other words, you basically agree with me, but feel some compelling need to publicly signal that you're with the mainstream iSteve crowd here.

    Tibet?

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  168. Harold says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    Death is inevitable. So we should not do anything that averts death, indeed, we should welcome death.

    That's basically the level of argumentation that we're dealing with at this point.

    Rage, rage against the dying of the white.

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  169. 3g4me says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...
    I think "IH" is "Israeli Hasbara". I'm not sure what the "TG" remainder of the acronym might represent.

    @94 Jus’ Sayin: “I think “IH” is “Israeli Hasbara”. I’m not sure what the “TG” remainder of the acronym might represent.”

    Years ago in another blog he kinda-sorta-ha-hah-aren’t-I-clever claimed that it stood for “I Hate The Goys.”

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  170. res says:
    @nebulafox
    Every tribe and tongue in the world has their embarrassments, my friend.

    Perhaps, but most don’t celebrate them.

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    The Indians themselves probably don't. As I mentioned above, the views of Americans on Mexico as a dysfunctional hole placed to be walled off and quarantined has nothing on how many Indians view Bangladesh.

    The bien-pensants, yes, but they don't belong to any nation, as they oft say.

  171. @JohnnyWalker123
    Mysteriously, Israel seems to have avoided this non-white immigrant supremacy. Israel is, for all practical purposes, a White nationalist ethnostate. If Jared Taylor or David Duke could create their own ideal country, it'd operate very similarly to Israel.

    Even more mysteriously, there seems to be massive overlap between pro-Israel intellectuals/politicians and pro-immigrant supremacists. I wonder how they reconcile support for a White nationalist homeland with their emphatic love of third word migration into Western countries.

    It's all very mysterious. Maybe someday I'll be able to figure this all out.

    Israel is a protected class supremacist state.

    The primary shared value between all Jews (Secular, Conservative, Orthodox) is their protected class entitlement fetish.

    In Israel, only flavors of Jewish are a protected class.

    All Jewish have a general revulsion of all gentiles and a specific revulsion of all presumed Nazi and especially of white Christians.

    That’s why Israel discriminates by law against it’s Arab-Israeli citizens because they are gentile, and also why Israel recognizes no white Christian as a Israeli citizen.

    Israel also recognizes all diaspora Jews as Israeli citizens.

    Similarly, Jewish Americans push for all people in the world to have automatic US citizenship if they are not white Christians or Nazi or white supremacist.

    The US federal government recognizes all federal protected class groups as being entitled by federal law.

    Jewish-Americans encourage all protected class people to trade their votes for special government rights.

    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    Feminist are federally entitled because of Male oppression
    Jewish are federally entitled because of Gentile oppression
    Queers are federally entitled because of Straight oppression
    Muslims are federally entitled because of Christian oppression
    Disabled are federally entitled because of Healthy oppression
    Afro-blacks are federally entitled because of White oppression
    Latinos are federally entitled because of Gringo oppression
    Hispanics are federally entitled because of Gringo oppression
    Military Veterans are federally entitled because of Militia oppression
    Native Americans are federally entitled because of Paleface oppression
    Asians are federally entitled because of Occidental oppression
    International Socialist are federally entitled because of Local Government oppression
    Social Justice Crony Capitalist are federally entitled because of Honest Businessmen oppression
    Zionist-Neocons are federally entitled because of Anti-Fascist oppression

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  172. DBowman says:

    Everyone seems to miss the point that this Mehta is part of the Indian left that the Indian nationalist right has no patience for either.

    The city of Bombay was renamed to Mumbai for nationalistic reasons, and yet a cultural Marxist like Mehta will never agree to call it Mumbai, because any nationalism is a slippery slope to fascism for cultural marxists like Mehta.

    The animosity of the Indian nationalist right to the types of Mehta is just as great as their hatred for colonialism, but the Mehtas exist today, while the Brits are long gone. This is why the Tharoors are desperately trying to shift the dialogue back to “bad old colonialism” because the present anger in India is dominated by revulsion to the assorted riffraff that make up the “liberal” “progressive” coalition (of the Congress party): Marxists, leftists, islamists, christian missionary groups, and pretty much everyone who hates Hindu society. Not unlike the identity coalition of anti-white the Democrats have put together here.

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  173. 3g4me says:
    @Opinionator
    I have heard that about other cultures. Not just subcontinentals. Why is light skin so prized?

    @139 Opinionator: “I have heard that about other cultures. Not just subcontinentals. Why is light skin so prized?”

    Opinionator, have you ever considered doing something as fundamental as reading to answer any of your eternal, obvious, and oblivious questions? Even somthing as pozzed as Goolag or Wikipedia would prove informative in your case.

    Before some ‘impartial’ commenter like self-styled Numinous or his ilk pops up to reiterate it’s all Whitey’s fault, I’ll merely note that India and China have a preference for fair skin going back many, many centuries. It’s well-documented and had nothing to do with evil rayciss English colonizers. Beyond that, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

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  174. SMK says: • Website
    @eah
    https://twitter.com/WillBWindsor/status/907815480185937922

    Yes, a “white supremacist” and “racist” and “Nazi” is anyone who criticizes and disagrees with the left on issues of race and immigration or tells the truth about blacks and nonwhite aliens, legal and illegal. Any white person, that is.

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  175. This is why your “citizenism” will never work Steve: an endless stream of slightly above average Brahmins, Han Chinese, and Jews looking towards short term gain for themselves by whipping up colored resentment with eternal mau mau antics.

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  176. enriched says:

    Magnificent tweet from the publisher:

    Immigrants make their new countries richer, in all senses of the word:

    “If there were any justice, America would be forced to take in every Arab displaced from his or her home because of that war. The 1,600-acre Bush family ranch in Texas would be filled with tents hosting Iraqis and Syrians. You break it, you own it.”

    It’s not tone-deaf, it’s more than that. FP reminds me of a stone-deaf family member who’d make odd vocalizations without even realizing there was a sound, let alone an odd one.

    Thousands of Syrians in tents. In our yards. Enriching us. Yes. Yes. Yes.

    We need them and we need Mehta. Yes.

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  177. SMK says: • Website
    @eah
    https://twitter.com/WillBWindsor/status/907815480185937922

    And, to a lesser degree, respectable, mainstream “conservatives,” especially “neocons,” and most Republicans, most egregiously the likes of John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Paul Ryan, Jeff Flakes, and many others.

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  178. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    This is a clear example of wrapping organicist drive with highfalutinism.

    The ONLY reason that the world wants to come to US is to have more material stuff. If they want democracy, that is now dime a dozen. ‘Yearning to breathe free’ is bogus since most Latin American nations are democratic. Every European nation is now democratic. Most Asian nations are democratic, and even China is economically free and socially permissive. India prides itself as the biggest democracy.

    So, if they got freedom, why come to the US? For land? But Latin America has lots of empty land. So does Africa. Why not go there?

    They wanna come to Anglo-made nations because those nations got the most stuff. That is the only reason. It is parasitic greed. Also, if these would-be-colonizers are so idealistic, why not move to poorest nations and help them grow economically and politically? Why come to nations already made rich under whites?

    It’s pure organicism. Organisms want ease and comfort and goodies. Humans are no different. If you feed squirrels and pigeons, they come for more. If anything, they expect and demand more and more. If you feed squirrels, they will even try to invade the house. There is no sense of limits. Squirrels soon come to feel, “humans exist to feed us”. It’s like the plant in LITTLE HOUSE OF HORRORS. Feed me Seymour. Globalist demographic imperialism to the West had made the World feel, “white nations and folks exist to ‘welcome’ us and feed us and etc.” And white prog dummies are addicted to the meth of PC ‘virtue’. They are so better because they ‘feed squirrels and pigeons’. Never mind the consequences of this. All that matters if the crack high of feeling so goooooood about themselves. Ahhhh.

    If you feed pigeons, they will descend and flock all around you whenever they see you. These demographic imperialists are no different. They want stuff that white people made, esp as they suck as making it themselves.

    But if they were to be honest about this, they would come across as crass and materialistic, so they appropriate Western/American symbols and iconography to justify their organicist invasionism. So, turn Hamilton into a rapping bro. Turn churches into homo dens. Turn the Founding Fathers iconography into symbol of Following Freeloaders. Alinsky trick. Use the symbols of your foes or rivals and turn them around.

    If we do away with the pompous highfalutinism and expose its organicist content, this is the truth:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4-1IbeJjRc

    PS. Maybe we should push memes saying that MORE for colonizers means less for Negroes. Since Negroes got moral credit, their opposition to ‘immigration’ will count for more.

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  179. Thea says:
    @Yak-15
    If your history and present are filled with incompetents who do little more than detract from the common good and halt the progress of knowledge and science, why not take aim at the more successful?

    It's one thing to be a worthless parasite, it's another to be actively trying to destroy your host.

    Yes, Generally parasites don’t kill their host .

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  180. Immigration advocates can’t make up their minds. Depending on what’s most expedient, immigration is either a blessing – think of the economic growth! – or payback for colonialism.

    Likewise, open borders zealots can’t decide whether diversity is a boon or a curse. On the one hand, they insist that diversity enriches the West. At the same time, they argue that the 3rd world is plagued by conflict because of contrived borders drawn up by imperialists; so in other words, they’re saying that one of the main sins of Western imperialists was forcing diverse groups of people to live together!

    The good thing about anti-whites like Suketu Mehta is that they tacitly admit that immigration is not a source of joy.

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  181. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Whiskey
    Essentially, Mehta is arguing for White Slavery. No not the sex kind though that too, but slavery of White men in serfdom to support the Third World. This is exactly as I predicted.

    Tiny Duck is always going on about how non-Whites don't like me. I don't care if they love or hate me -- they will want to enslave me just the same. I want them to FEAR me. And I want their #1 enablers, White women, to fear me and every other White man the same.

    It is oh so better, in so many ways, to be feared than loved. You don't see Africans migrating to Putin's Russia now do you? Why?

    Africans are AFRAID of Russians. Its better to be poor and violent and so dangerous that everyone leaves you alone, than to be wealthy and loved. It is best of all to be rich and feared, but we are not Japan.

    I will note with interest that the paragon of virtue, India, had one of its leading anti-government and anti-Hindu nationalist journalists shot and killed by assassins.

    Suketu Mehta hates Hindu nationalists just as much as he hates trump supporters. This is just a garden variety case of cosmopolitan liberal hating on the right wing everywhere.

    Check out Jagmeet Singh, the young Sikh man of Indian origin likely to become the head of the NDP in Canada. He hates the western right, sure, but he hates hates hates the Indian right so much more. He hates all of India, in fact. He moved a motion in the Canadian parliament to claim that India conducts genocides, and routinely bashes India there. He was denied a visa to India because he hobnobs with separatists and rebels.

    These people are just plain progressives. They have no loyalty to India and don’t represent the mass of Hindus.

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  182. guest says:
    @Yan Shen
    In general I support nationalism and for the most part disagree with Mr. Mehta's arguments. I wonder though if his comments about the colonization of India have some merit.

    When you invade the world, you create a chain of chaos that inevitably leads to inadvertently inviting the world as well. Just think of all the refugee situations that have been created by America bombing the shit out of whatever god forsaken countries in this world.

    On the other hand, modern day China or Japan for the most part pursue policies of political non-interference and a focus on narrow national interests.

    Maybe this requires a bargain on both sides? Don't invade the world and don't invite the world. And if you invaded some place in the past, at least be cognizant of that when having a conversation about modern day nationalism.

    “When you invade the world, you create a chain of chaos that inevitably leads to inadvertently inviting the world”

    Malarkey. That isn’t happening with China or Japan, as you may notice. The West isn’t the only portion of the world that built empires, and though it took in people from all over the world before, it didn’t contract suicidal “invade the world” mania until relatively recently. In many cases after it countries stopped invading the world. Not the U.S., of course.

    What is the necessary connection I’m missing. I can see how Invade the World makes the invading country morally, economically and physically weak, but not why they should just give up. They don’t have to grow *that* weak. I can see why the would-be invited would petition for an invitation on the basis of previous invasion. But we don’t have to listen to them. Certainly there’s no inescapable causation involved.

    If they come over without invitation, motivated by previous invasion, we can kill them here instead of there. All that’s required is the will. Invade the World doesn’t inevitably suck away our will.

    Furthermore, colonialism and imperialism didn’t cause chaos everywhere. It instituted order and brought civilization, as well. Most everywhere it touched would’ve had chaos anyway. Especially Africa.

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  183. anon says: • Disclaimer

    An excellent post. I do however take issue with your last paragraph:

    South Asians seem like an ethnic group who are clever, articulate, education-oriented, full of Tiger families, status-striving, prone to feminism, and unprincipled. So they’re probably well situated to succeed in today’s America.

    How clever are they really if they are so easily led like sheep? South Indians as a group have been some of the most vocal anti-Trumpers, and they are everywhere, from politics (Kshama Sawant, Pramila Jayapal, Kamala Harris), to entertainers (Aziz Ansari, Hassan Minaj, Kumail Nanjani), to Silicon Valley (Sundra Pichai, Shervin Pishevar), to journalists/writers(Fareed Zakaria, this Mehta guy), all are vocal socialist libtards blindly aping their Jew masters like puppets on strings, so dumb they still can’t figure out socialism is why they or their parents had to leave India in the first place. They want to turn the US into the next India.

    Speaking as an immigrant myself who arrived over 3 decades ago, I think any immigrant who harbors the sentiment of Suketu Mehta should be stripped of his/her citizenship and deported, and that includes every single one of the South Asian morons I mentioned above, plus George Soros, Ted Lieu Dem. representative of CA, Judge Derrick Watson of HI and Theodore Chang of MD — strip all these ingrates of their citizenship and deport every single last one of them! This country already has enough oxygen wasting leeches and morons who do nothing but take and demand, we don’t need to import more.

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  184. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Mr. Anon
    I used to have, overall, a rather favorable impression of Indians. Now.........not so much.

    Indians like Suketu Mehta (to say nothing of the foul-mouthed thieves who cold-call my phone, claming to be from "IRS") are the reason why.

    Just what this country needs - yet another perpetually agrieved minority group, who wants to lecture me and mine about "who we are".

    There is no "we". Suketu Mehta is not part of any "we" that I recognize. He can go f**k himself sideways.

    More and more Indian women are running for local and state offices in my state(WA), every single one of them is running as a Democrat, and espousing the most leftist of views including endless calls for more diversity and multiculturalism.

    Indians are the last people we should import more of. At least the Latinos waited until they are 16% of the population to start running for office. The Indians are barely over 1% and they are already getting into our politics. They are the Jews’ new favorite puppets.

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  185. Luke Lea says:

    I prefer this Foreign Affairs piece, “Us and Them” from several years back:

    “Projecting their own experience onto the rest of the world, Americans generally belittle the role of ethnic nationalism in politics. After all, in the United States people of varying ethnic origins live cheek by jowl in relative peace. Within two or three generations of immigration, their ethnic identities are attenuated by cultural assimilation and intermarriage. Surely, things cannot be so different elsewhere.”

    “Americans also find ethnonationalism discomfiting both intellectually and morally. Social scientists go to great lengths to demonstrate that it is a product not of nature but of culture, often deliberately constructed. And ethicists scorn value systems based on narrow group identities rather than cosmopolitanism.”

    “But none of this will make ethnonationalism go away. Immigrants to the United States usually arrive with a willingness to fit into their new country and reshape their identities accordingly. But for those who remain behind in lands where their ancestors have lived for generations, if not centuries, political identities often take ethnic form, producing competing communal claims to political power. The creation of a peaceful regional order of nation-states has usually been the product of a violent process of ethnic separation. In areas where that separation has not yet occurred, politics is apt to remain ugly. . .”

    https://goo.gl/H0iiiy

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  186. Tex says:
    @Anonymous

    “We are the creditors,” responded my grandfather, who was born in India, spent his working years in Kenya, and was now retired in London. “You took all our wealth, our diamonds. Now we have come to collect.”
     
    Surprisingly common pro-immigration argument in Britain.

    While the immigrant bad cop finger-wags at you, the Becca Hellers of this world play good cop:

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/08/what-a-just-immigration-policy-doesnt-look-like-trump-daca/

    What a Just Immigration Policy Doesn’t Look Like
    By Becca Heller September 8, 2017

    ... Immigration doesn’t have to be a partisan issue. We’ve allowed the rhetoric to become so polarized that many believe that there is a dichotomy between the working American in the Rust Belt trying to afford rising health insurance premiums and the immigrant trying to come over to seek a better opportunity, to contribute to America, or to flee persecution.

    What they want is essentially identical: to work hard and achieve happiness, safety, and security for themselves and their families. A founding premise of America is that this is a place for immigrants to come and start over.

     

    See, immigrants just want what you want! And totally not in a take it from you because you owe them kind of way. Mehta's just bustin' your balls. No, no -- you people are all in this together, stronger together, working for a better future! Think bundles of sticks, not crabs in buckets.

    A founding premise of America is that this is a place for immigrants to come and start over.

    Weird, my high school history teacher taught me that immigrants came because the economy was usually expanding. Makes you wonder what happens in a stagnant economy. I guess she was stuck in the Beardian tradition.

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  187. Bill says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...
    I think "IH" is "Israeli Hasbara". I'm not sure what the "TG" remainder of the acronym might represent.

    trans-gender, surely

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  188. anon says: • Disclaimer

    the former U.N. undersecretary-general for communications and public information, gave a compelling Oxford Union speech that made the case for (symbolic) reparations owed by Britain to India. “India’s share of the world economy when Britain arrived on its shores was 23 percent. By the time the British left, it was down to below 4 percent. Why?” he asked. “Simply because India had been governed for the benefit of Britain. Britain’s rise for 200 years was financed by its depredations in India.

    Yet another thing Indians and Africans have in common, they both let their societies rot in hell while blaming whites for everything. People who have no capacity for introspection will not move forward. Blacks, Jews, Muslims, Hispanics, Native Americans, and now East Indians, all the groups constantly blaming everyone else for their problems, racism, slavery, anti-semitism, Islamaphobia, colonialism, the drug trade, you name it, nothing is ever their own stinking fault, everything is always someone else’s fault. Societies run by these loser groups will always be failed societies.

    You don’t see the Northeast Asians sitting around blaming everyone else for their problems. They just roll up their sleeves and get to work. China was poorer than India until the 1970s. Then they woke up and got to work. Today China’s per capita GDP is 5x that of India’s. While the Indians like Mehta sit around and blame everything on the west, the Chinese got to work. It’s time for the west to realize what Indians really are, a bunch of chest thumping bullshit artists of the East, anything but the “best and brightest” they claim themselves to be. If Indians were so smart, their country wouldn’t be such a shit hole.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-02/india-not-next-china

    If one assumes that India continues to grow at a rate of 7.5%, and China at a rate of 6.3% from here on out, it will take 127 years before India’s per capita growth will actually begin to exceed China’s.

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    If Indians were so smart, their country wouldn’t be such a shit hole.
     
    Yep. Smart is as smart does.
  189. nebulafox says:
    @Massimo Heitor
    Bullet points on India:

    - "The Great Partition" was designed to make India a majority Hindu nation and Pakistan a majority Muslim nation. The concept of the nation state of India was inherently tribal from birth. There is growing Hindu Nationalism in India. Make India Great Again. There is more blatant tribalism in Pakistan.

    - India had an official "shoot to kill" policy on their border with Bangladesh fairly recently. The global/western press hasn't paid this issue much attention, but in 2011: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/libertycentral/2011/jan/23/india-bangladesh-border-shoot-to-kill-policy.

    - "According to a 2010 Human Rights Watch report, between 2001 and 2010 "India’s Border Security Force" personnel gunned down an estimated 900 Bangladeshis as they attempted to cross the border." India is building a modern border fence/wall to stop human migration. http://thediplomat.com/2017/02/the-india-bangladesh-wall-lessons-for-trump/

    - The major pop culture movie featuring India, Slumdog Millionaire, featured a scene with Hindus killing Muslims. Apparently, those kind of tribal attacks regularly occur in both directions in India.

    The linked article is rather outrageous and wise for Steve Sailer to link to it.

    The Great Wall of Trump has nothing on what India is doing with Pakistan and Bangladesh right now. I know a guy who is currently discussing working on an electrical power grid plan on the Indo-Pakistani border. New Delhi is NOT screwing around. As you mentioned, the guards have full sanction to shoot to kill without question. People haven’t forgotten who really helped fund the Mumbai attacks a decade ago.

    To the east, the Indians know full well that tens of millions of Bangladeshis pouring into West Bengal-still one of the poorest, most political violence filled states in India-would set off everything from communal violence to further economic poverty. And as the flooding grows, more and more will try. Hence, many Indians view walling off the place as the common sense measure to take.

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  190. nebulafox says:
    @res
    Perhaps, but most don't celebrate them.

    The Indians themselves probably don’t. As I mentioned above, the views of Americans on Mexico as a dysfunctional hole placed to be walled off and quarantined has nothing on how many Indians view Bangladesh.

    The bien-pensants, yes, but they don’t belong to any nation, as they oft say.

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  191. Bill says:
    @yyrvjh

    3. There are an enormous number of hyper resentful Jews who seem to have an eternal axe to grind with the white gentiles. Since Jews run a lot of the media (and a lot of institutions), their fervently anti-gentile views tend to be reflected in newspapers, magazines, and on tv. Even non-Jews get into the game of denouncing whites. Why? Ambitious status-striving careerists (such as Mehta) know that if they want to rise in their profession, they must please their masters. That means mouthing whatever ideology is being propagated by the (((inner party))). If he lived back in 80s era Russia, Mehta probably would’ve been a huge advocate for Communist economic policy. If he lived back in Medeival Europe, Mehta probably would’ve constantly defended the infalliblity of Church authorities. Lots of people are atomized status-strivers who’ll say anything to please the ruling class. Since the Western ruling class these days is Jewish, you got to embrace their prejudices to get ahead.


     

    Yes, that claim is part of the Sailer Doctrine. It is also believed by many paleoconservatives and nearly everyone on the "Alt-Right". But what if it isn't true? What if Jewish support for open borders tracked closely their representation in the urban upper middle class (what used to be called "Yuppies", except they're no longer all young), which is among the principal advocates and beneficiaries of open borders? (Note the complete absence of Catholics and mainline Protestants from your list, though vastly more numerous.)

    What if the people calling the shots in the media are the advertisers -- corporations making consumer products, always hungry for GDP growth -- not the journalists? What if journalism is actually a lousy job that not so many besides the left half of the Jewish bell curve can and will do for the pay?

    What if your (and Steve's) belief that Jews are the ruling elite is a paranoid fantasy unsupported by hard data and statistics?

    What if grass is blue and the sky is green?

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  192. Bill says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    There are 3 factors behind the pro-immigration mania.

    1. Oligarchic economic interests (agribusiness, Silicon Valley, meatpackers, real estate developers, investors, etc.) want a growing population of workers and consumers. It's good for their bottom line. So they're naturally pro-migration. Many of the strongest immigration boosters are real estate developers from politically conservative, pro-business regions like SoCal, Atlanta, and Texas. Since oligarchs run the government and literally own the media, they get what they want.

    2. Modern day Americans care very little for their national identity, their people's history, or their nation's future. They're mostly concerned with making money, consumerism, and entertainment (sports, tv, social media, celebrities, music). They want to get rich, buy lots of stuff, go to NFL games, and brag about all of that on social media. There's a reason why hardly anybody in this country is aware of the H-1b visa, but everybody seems to be an expert on what it takes to win the BCS Championship game. Americans are, unfortunately, a frivolous people. Very few Americans know or care what Mehta wrote, but everybody cares about Beyoncé's newest rap video and the latest IPhone. The mobs of Rome mostly focused on chariots and games, while their rulers looted the empire and allowed the Germanic barbarians to encroach. Are today's entertainment-crazed Americans really much different?

    3. There are an enormous number of hyper resentful Jews who seem to have an eternal axe to grind with the white gentiles. Since Jews run a lot of the media (and a lot of institutions), their fervently anti-gentile views tend to be reflected in newspapers, magazines, and on tv. Even non-Jews get into the game of denouncing whites. Why? Ambitious status-striving careerists (such as Mehta) know that if they want to rise in their profession, they must please their masters. That means mouthing whatever ideology is being propagated by the (((inner party))). If he lived back in 80s era Russia, Mehta probably would've been a huge advocate for Communist economic policy. If he lived back in Medeival Europe, Mehta probably would've constantly defended the infalliblity of Church authorities. Lots of people are atomized status-strivers who'll say anything to please the ruling class. Since the Western ruling class these days is Jewish, you got to embrace their prejudices to get ahead.

    By the way, I've noticed a lot of South Asians (Indians, Pakis) rising in politics, media, and sitcoms/movies these days. Most especially, South Asian women.

    South Asians seem like an ethnic group who are clever, articulate, education-oriented, full of Tiger families, status-striving, prone to feminism, and unprincipled. So they're probably well situated to succeed in today's America.

    I think 2 is really 1 in drag. Those same oligarchs have worked, long and hard, to turn Americans into the atomized, consumerist, a-cultural zombies they are today.

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  193. eah says:
    @eah
    https://twitter.com/WillBWindsor/status/907815480185937922

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  194. ChrisZ says:
    @The real enemy
    Foreign Policy magazine was founded by Harvard history and government policy professor Samuel Huntington, who taught there for 50 years prior to his passing in 2008. Huntington was anything but a rabid pro-immigration hawk. In fact, in his book Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order, Huntington proffered that the world is dividing itself into 7 civilizations - Western, African, Latin American, Muslim/Middle Eastern, East Asian, South Asian and Eastern (Russian) Orthodox, and he believed that the world will only see peace if these 7 regions operated entirely separately from one another, that the West does not try to meddle in the affairs of all other civilizations, and that it curtails immigration from other civilizations while focusing on assimilation. He was particularly alarmed by immigration to the west by Muslims. The book was written in 1996 and it's amazing how prophetic it has become. If every member of Congress were required to read that book, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today.

    Huntington would roll over from his grave if he knew how the magazine he founded has been bastardized today, a complete opposite of everything he believed in.

    Huntington’s “Clash of Civilizations” seemed very theoretical at the time of publication. I recall some of our lesser lights, on the left and right, dismissing it for its backwardness. But he’s since been vindicated on almost every point; truly a remarkable intellectual achievement. Hard to believe it’s been around for 20 years.

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  195. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Bill Gates wrote an article in the WSJ today titled Let’s Keep Investing In the World’s Poor, basically calling for Congress to continue approving billions in aid to keep Africans dying from AIDS.

    It is not an exaggeration to say that Bill Gates has a direct hand in the African migrant crisis in Europe today. Diseases and famine are nature’s way of ensuring survival of the fittest and population control. If more people continue to die from AIDS, Africans will eventually change their sexual behavior like practicing safe sex. But thanks to generous supply of drugs from the west, now they no longer have to worry about changing their behavior because they are no longer dying, but only have to get free drugs that keep HIV as a chronic condition, so now we have to keep sending them free drugs to all eternity. Meanwhile mothers continue to have 7 to 14 babies each even though Bill Gates’ supply of vaccines are now ensuring all their babies survive to adulthood. Meanwhile Gates has no answer to how to keep all these extra mouths fed and employed, so they now become Europe’s problem.

    Instead of realizing his mistake and rolling back his philanthropy, Gates is still blindly calling for more aid for Africa and India. Morons like him wreck the world for their own selfish satisfaction, so they can feel good about themselves, and less guilty about their wealth. But it’s not enough that he’s pissing away his billions on saving more Africans and Indians like Mehta, he wants America to spend more of our tax dollars on them as well, while impoverishing ourselves. Is there any wonder why there is such hatred and resentment towards the elites of the western world today?

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  196. Forbes says:
    @Anonymous

    “We are the creditors,” responded my grandfather, who was born in India, spent his working years in Kenya, and was now retired in London. “You took all our wealth, our diamonds. Now we have come to collect.”
     
    Surprisingly common pro-immigration argument in Britain.

    While the immigrant bad cop finger-wags at you, the Becca Hellers of this world play good cop:

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/08/what-a-just-immigration-policy-doesnt-look-like-trump-daca/

    What a Just Immigration Policy Doesn’t Look Like
    By Becca Heller September 8, 2017

    ... Immigration doesn’t have to be a partisan issue. We’ve allowed the rhetoric to become so polarized that many believe that there is a dichotomy between the working American in the Rust Belt trying to afford rising health insurance premiums and the immigrant trying to come over to seek a better opportunity, to contribute to America, or to flee persecution.

    What they want is essentially identical: to work hard and achieve happiness, safety, and security for themselves and their families. A founding premise of America is that this is a place for immigrants to come and start over.

     

    See, immigrants just want what you want! And totally not in a take it from you because you owe them kind of way. Mehta's just bustin' your balls. No, no -- you people are all in this together, stronger together, working for a better future! Think bundles of sticks, not crabs in buckets.

    Speaking of immigration policy…remember the travel ban?

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/350373-supreme-court-lifts-restrictions-on-trump-travel-ban

    “The Supreme Court agreed late Tuesday to lift restrictions on President Trump’s travel ban until further notice, allowing the administration to continue barring most refugees under the ban. The court temporarily blocked a federal appeals court ruling that said the government cannot ban refugees that have formal assurances from resettlement agencies or are in the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program.”

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  197. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Altai
    My favourite part is how slowly the likes of Finland, Ireland, Iceland, Norway and the Baltics are now also guilty, revealing that the resentment is racial. They have pale skin and light coloured eyes so they're also guilty of colonialism! Poland, too, has seemingly spent all the victim points it built up in the 20th century, or so the NYT informs me.

    Nazism too, is now the fault of all the Christian gentiles, still more the fault of Germany, but implicitly that is the direction we've been moving in, it's fascinating in a way.

    Wait til the ignorant writers at the NYT realise Southern Europeans aren't as dusky as they infer from their hispanic maids.

    Nazism too, is now the fault of all the Christian gentiles, still more the fault of Germany, but implicitly that is the direction we’ve been moving in, it’s fascinating in a way.

    This has always been the Jewish attitude. Germans blame the Nazis for the crimes and disasters of the WWII era. Other Europeans blame the Germans. Americans blame Europeans. Jews blame white people.

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  198. @Bay Area Guy
    Immigration advocates can't make up their minds. Depending on what's most expedient, immigration is either a blessing - think of the economic growth! - or payback for colonialism.

    Likewise, open borders zealots can't decide whether diversity is a boon or a curse. On the one hand, they insist that diversity enriches the West. At the same time, they argue that the 3rd world is plagued by conflict because of contrived borders drawn up by imperialists; so in other words, they're saying that one of the main sins of Western imperialists was forcing diverse groups of people to live together!

    The good thing about anti-whites like Suketu Mehta is that they tacitly admit that immigration is not a source of joy.

    Watch and learn.

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  199. @guest
    "When you invade the world, you create a chain of chaos that inevitably leads to inadvertently inviting the world"

    Malarkey. That isn't happening with China or Japan, as you may notice. The West isn't the only portion of the world that built empires, and though it took in people from all over the world before, it didn't contract suicidal "invade the world" mania until relatively recently. In many cases after it countries stopped invading the world. Not the U.S., of course.

    What is the necessary connection I'm missing. I can see how Invade the World makes the invading country morally, economically and physically weak, but not why they should just give up. They don't have to grow *that* weak. I can see why the would-be invited would petition for an invitation on the basis of previous invasion. But we don't have to listen to them. Certainly there's no inescapable causation involved.

    If they come over without invitation, motivated by previous invasion, we can kill them here instead of there. All that's required is the will. Invade the World doesn't inevitably suck away our will.

    Furthermore, colonialism and imperialism didn't cause chaos everywhere. It instituted order and brought civilization, as well. Most everywhere it touched would've had chaos anyway. Especially Africa.

    It isn’t happening with Israel either.

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  200. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Why are Mexicans, Guatemalans, Hondurans, and Salvadorans desperate to move north, to come to U.S. cities to work as dishwashers and cleaning ladies? It’s because Americans sell them guns and buy their drugs. Their homicide figures are indicative of a civil war. So they move to the cause of their misery; they, too, are the creditors.

    This is like looking back in history and blaming the Chinese for their demand of opium to justify their invasion by the British. Some F up logic by the looney left, parroted here by yet another mindless Indian lemming.

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  201. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @covfefe anan
    Not much to say that others haven't already mentioned here, but this entire piece makes the head swim.

    The question that always comes to mind when reading these grievance pieces is: where do you draw the line? If we need to repent for the mistakes of Hitler, slavery, eradicating the natives, etc. Do people of Norman descent have to apologize to native Britons? (Bad example, they're all white.) Do Mongols deserve not to have the latest iPhone because Genghis Khan was a Really Bad Guy?

    What happens when Bangladesh gets flooded and 18 million Bangladeshis have to seek dry land?
     
    We graciously fly them to the US aboard Lufthansa aircraft, in the dead of night of course. Because we owe it to them all. What happens when the population of the subcontinent doesn't stop increasing, and within a few years, another 18 million Bangladeshis have to seek This Year's Dry Land? oh...

    We have to accept them all, forever? That seems like the fast track to a global third world. That's exactly what the oligarchs want? oh...

    Do Mongols deserve not to have the latest iPhone because Genghis Khan was a Really Bad Guy?

    Newsflash: Genghis Khan was really a Jew. His real name was Genghis Cohen. :->

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  202. Forbes says:
    @syonredux
    So much nonsense......

    Why are Mexicans, Guatemalans, Hondurans, and Salvadorans desperate to move north, to come to U.S. cities to work as dishwashers and cleaning ladies? It’s because Americans sell them guns and buy their drugs. Their homicide figures are indicative of a civil war. So they move to the cause of their misery; they, too, are the creditors.

     

    Actually, the homicide rate in Mexico was higher before the rise of the drug cartels:

    repetition of the mantra “this is the bloodiest era in the country’s history since the Mexican Revolution” (Analysis, 4 April) does not make it true. The Cristero (Catholic) insurgency of the late 1920s (ie after the revolution) generated homicide rates of 200 per 100,000 (the standard metric), compared to 24 per 100,000 in 2011; more significantly, the homicide rate in 1940 was 67 per 100,000; and even circa 1960 – when no revolts happened and the “Peace of the PRI” (the then ruling party) prevailed – it was higher than it is today.

    Alan Knight
    Professor of the history of Latin America, Oxford University
     
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/apr/10/mexico-murder-rate

    Why are Syrians moving? Not for the lights of Broadway or the springtime charms of Unter den Linden. It is because the West — particularly, the Americans and the British — invaded Iraq, an illegal and unnecessary war that exacerbated a four-year drought linked to global warming and set in motion the process that destroyed the entire region. They have reaped what the West has sown.
     
    We Deplorables have a pithier way of phrasing it: Invade the World, Invite the World.

    The Hudson is not foaming over with blood, either. “In the past decade, population growth, including immigration, has accounted for roughly half of the potential economic growth rate in the United States, compared with just one-sixth in Europe, and none in Japan,” the analyst Ruchir Sharma points out in the New York Times. “[I]f it weren’t for the boost from babies and immigrants, the United States economy would look much like those supposed laggards, Europe and Japan.”

    Countries that accept immigrants, like Canada, are doing better than countries that don’t, like Japan.
     
    Yet Japan still doesn't wants large numbers of immigrants......Whatever could be wrong with them....

    . But whether Trump or May or Orban likes it or not, immigrants will keep coming, to pursue happiness and a better life for their children.

     

    How is it that the Japanese manage to keep them out......

    They will bring energy with them, for no one has more enterprise than someone who has left their distant home to make the difficult journey here, whether they’ve come legally or not.
     
    Everyone knows that Latinx Mestizos and Amerinds are natural entrepreneurs.....

    And given basic opportunities, they will be better behaved than the youth in the lands they move to, because immigrants in most countries have lower crime rates than the native-born.
     
    And, uh, don't worry about the second and third generations.....I'm sure that they will be just as law-abiding....And if they aren't, they don't count...you know, because they aren't immigrants and they are just reacting against racist conditions and stuff....

    They will create jobs.
     
    Let in a million Haitians, and they will create ten million jobs....

    They will cook and dance and write in new and exciting ways.
     
    What I'm trying to say is that immigrants are vibrant....

    The Ruchir Sharma (born in Jaipur, India), head of emerging markets at Morgan Stanley Investment Management, quoted above has become a go-to guy for the WSJ and NYT. Needless to say, he’s a cheerleader for the globalism that favors the wealthy elite, and presumably because he favors open borders. That the gains due to globalism does not accrue to the working and middle classes is something to which he is oblivious–itself, as unremarkable as it is common (to not notice) amongst those working in financial markets around the world.

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  203. Forbes says:
    @syonredux

    What they want is essentially identical: to work hard and achieve happiness, safety, and security for themselves and their families. A founding premise of America is that this is a place for immigrants to come and start over.
     
    Funny. I don't remember reading that in the Constitution......


    Oh, wait. My mistake. I'm afraid that my copy lacks the Zeroth Amendment. Must be some kind of misprint......

    I find it–sadly, morbidly, excruciatingly–fascinating, an immigrant’s tendency to lecture on the “founding premise of America”–as if they found a secret decoder ring in a box of Cheerios.

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  204. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I think India’s “best and brightest” have benefited the West enough. They are needed much more in their own country, which continues to be mired in filth, poverty and crime. 800 million in India still live without access to clean toilets today and have to defecate out in the open. It’s time to repatriate all these brilliant sons and daughters of India to the motherland so they can help their fellow countrymen and women solve these much more pressing problems. What good is an iPhone if you can’t even shit in peace?

    Same goes for those from Mexico, China, Africa and the rest of the third world. Time for the West to stop stealing from the third world. First we stole their natural resources, now we’re stealing their human resources. Let’s stop being selfish, help end world inequality by sending back all these brilliant immigrants to where they are most needed, their home countries.

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  205. dwb says:

    My ‘day job’ is to construct mathematical models.

    Reading this piece reminds me of the dangers of relying on Mehta Analysis to arrive at solid cause/effect relationships.

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  206. Forbes says:
    @Rod1963
    Organized professional sports is nothing but bread and circuses.

    It is designed to focus the emotional and intellectual energy of the proles into something useless while they get raped by the boss class. You ever wonder why whites don't seem to have the focus or energy to notice they're being screwed over?

    Part of the answer is organized sports. Sit back and watch the crowd(not the game that's for suckers) watch the level of emotional intensity - it's way up there. It's like a drug, you get this high off it. It's also a social thing and allows for male bonding, etc. But all of it is directed to your team. You identify with them. Their success is your success.

    It's the Roman bread and circuses for the 21st century.

    And partisan politics today is mirroring team sports–all that matters is which team wins, nothing else.

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  207. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Yan Shen
    I guess you obviously don't read what I write either, including where I stated that I fundamentally disagreed with Mr. Mehta's conclusions about the value or necessity of immigration.

    My only point was that Mr. Mehta was correct in pointing out that some of the problems we face today are due to America's invade the world attitude, which quite frankly isn't all that different from what Steve himself has pointed out. If you don't want to have to invite the world, then maybe you shouldn't invade the world either. See Mr. Mehta's point about the Iraq war. His point about American demand for Latin American drugs was also on the mark, something which Steve failed to understand.


    The attitude of someone who moves into your home and then demands more while trashing your place, if short of being an outright brigand, is at least that of spoiled child.
     
    Agree, but I also think that Mr. Mehta has a point in arguing that colonialism makes that complaint a little bit harder to take seriously. Please read my 2nd followup post. That being said, I fundamentally don't think any countries are morally obligated to accept immigrants because they have a prior history of colonialism, but at the very least it would be nice to be cognizant of this fact when having a conversation.

    Agree with your grandmother that in general when in Rome, do as the Romans do. I'm not a huge fan of immigrants trying to force their own native cultures upon the host nation, as Muslim immigrants to Europe sometimes try to do. That being said, I wouldn't exactly go so far as to totally bend over either. But perhaps that's what you, your grandmother, etc. like doing, so different strokes for different folks.

    His point about American demand for Latin American drugs was also on the mark, something which Steve failed to understand.

    What utter bollocks! Do we look back in history and blame the Chinese for their demand of opium that turned the British into a narco state, and blame the Chinese for their invasion by their Narco suppliers? No, we all know damn well that the Brits got all the blame, and rightly so. What they did was evil. So why the double standard here? When it comes to drugs, the supply creates the demand, not the other way around. Drug pushers hire kids to give free drugs to other kids at parties, starting from even middle school and esp. through college. Once they get hooked, they start charging.

    Mexico could’ve easily chosen an honest living, develop their own industries, like China, Japan, Korea, or any of the Asian tigers, but they chose the easy way out, and now want to pin the blame on us while poisoning our kids. I’m sick of the libtards putting all the blames on the US. When it comes to drugs, the supply creates the demand, not the other way around. Libtards like Mehta need to get it through their thick skulls. Especially given your Chinese background, you would be wise to stop parroting that idiotic mantra.

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  208. Forbes says:
    @Wilkey
    What's revealing is the number of these rants we're now starting to see from journalists and "academics" with names like, well, Suketu Mehta. It feels like I've read hundreds since Trump was elected.

    Once upon a time immigrants used to change their last names to make themselves appear to be more American (and to sincerely or otherwise) allay any doubts of their loyalty to this country. Nowadays they don't even bother to change their first names. An immigrant with no intention of assimilating to their new country - who adopts no customs or practices from his new country except for those which help him to make money - isn't an immigrant, he's an invader.

    Exactly.

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  209. Svigor says:

    Man, nobody lies like a 3rd worlder:

    All hail Western civilization, which gave the world the genocide of the Native Americans, slavery, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, Hiroshima, and global warming. How hypocritical this whole debate about migration really is. The rich countries complain loudly about migration from the poor ones.

    No, western civilization didn’t give the world the genocide of the Native Americans (there was no genocide of the Native Americans), or slavery (slavery is as old as civilization itself, which means China and Mesopotamia gave the world slavery).

    Global warming is a leftist cult. PS, the third world is just dying to destroy the environment.

    The Inquisition did nothing wrong. It only went after Christian heretics, many of whom happened to be Jews who had entered Spanish society under false pretense (of Christianity).

    The Holocaust, meh, it’s nothing next to what the author’s fellow leftist travelers did in the 20th century: well over 100 million dead.

    Hiroshima is a rounding error on a rounding error. A week for the Japs in Manchuria. Or a weekend for the Mongols.

    This is how the game was rigged: First they colonized us and stole our treasure and prevented us from building our industries. After plundering us for centuries, they left, having drawn up maps in ways that ensured permanent strife between our communities.

    We’re all equal, but darkies have no agency. Whitey stole their agency, so they have no power to redraw their borders to better comport with facts on the ground (what are you, some crazy person who thinks darkie countries can act like adults long enough to redraw their borders?).

    Boy, right now I’m really feeling like it would be a good idea to let in more of the Mehta family. It sounds like they have my best interests at heart.

    You can feel the same warmth of purpose and spirit emanating from all non-whites, really, and from the left in general. Actually they hate us, and their continued success and presence in the West is an amazing testament to the money power of the oligarch class.

    Why are Mexicans, Guatemalans, Hondurans, and Salvadorans desperate to move north, to come to U.S. cities to work as dishwashers and cleaning ladies? It’s because Americans sell them guns and buy their drugs.

    Do you remember the point I made about this, Steve, some months or years back? Whites are to blame for selling Mexicans guns, and for buying Mexicans’ drugs. Never mind those Mexican gun-buyers. Never mind that they’re the ones doing the murdering. Never mind those Mexican drug-sellers. Never mind that they’re the ones doing the murdering and drug-smuggling. This is really a great who-whom quote; Whitey is the bad guy, consistent logic be damned.

    There isn’t some giant conspiracy to rub Israel in your face. If a country’s populace really wants to control immigration, it can simply elect governments that will do so, and it will happen (unless hemmed in by EU rules). Israel, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan have all elected such governments, repeatedly. To an extent Australia has done so as well, for while they do have legal and high skill immigration, unlike countries in Europe they are very strict against anyone arriving outside of the rules.

    He was trying to be subtle. Point is Jews are Jewish Supremacists; whatever’s best for Jews. For the diaspora, that means pro-open-borders, pro-mass-immigration, anti-Nationalist politics. For Israeli Jewry, that means closed borders, Jews-only immigration, and pro-Nationalist politics.

    That’s why I don’t try to be subtle; fewer full-of-shit faux-obtuse responses.

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  210. Svigor says:

    I love how leftists want to destroy all Western traditions, but the American tradition of immigration is sacrosanct. America has lots of traditions, folks. Like, say, the founding tradition of violent revolution by racist White men.

    Africans are AFRAID of Russians. Its better to be poor and violent and so dangerous that everyone leaves you alone, than to be wealthy and loved. It is best of all to be rich and feared, but we are not Japan.

    Problem is West Virginians are being left alone, too, so it seems that the poverty is the real defense, this side of simply taking your own side in a fight, like the Japs do. Japs intimidate no one; they’re rich and soft and they control their borders.

    Tiresome.

    Not an argument.

    Yes, that claim is part of the Sailer Doctrine. It is also believed by many paleoconservatives and nearly everyone on the “Alt-Right”. But what if it isn’t true? What if Jewish support for open borders tracked closely their representation in the urban upper middle class (what used to be called “Yuppies”, except they’re no longer all young), which is among the principal advocates and beneficiaries of open borders? (Note the complete absence of Catholics and mainline Protestants from your list, though vastly more numerous.)

    I don’t care what you call it, it’s persistent and pervasive. Sort of like Black failure. E.g., Jews voted 75% against Trump. Whites voted in the main FOR him. So Jews are worse. A lot worse.

    But if you actually go onto social media and look for Jewish opinions and behavior, you’ll see that they are VERY DIFFERENT.

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    "I love how leftists want to destroy all Western traditions, but the American tradition of immigration is sacrosanct."

    It's like when you see Keith Olbermann, Muslims, or DACA Mexicans draped in American flags, Every other day of the year besides School Picture Day, they're spitting on and burning the Stars and Stripes, and sh*tting on all things America.
  211. Svigor says:

    Fixed:

    I love how leftists want to destroy all Western traditions, but the American tradition of immigration is sacrosanct. America has lots of traditions, folks. Like, say, the founding tradition of violent revolution by racist White men.

    Africans are AFRAID of Russians. Its better to be poor and violent and so dangerous that everyone leaves you alone, than to be wealthy and loved. It is best of all to be rich and feared, but we are not Japan.

    Problem is West Virginians are being left alone, too, so it seems that the poverty is the real defense, this side of simply taking your own side in a fight, like the Japs do. Japs intimidate no one; they’re rich and they control their borders.

    Tiresome.

    Not an argument.

    Yes, that claim is part of the Sailer Doctrine. It is also believed by many paleoconservatives and nearly everyone on the “Alt-Right”. But what if it isn’t true? What if Jewish support for open borders tracked closely their representation in the urban upper middle class (what used to be called “Yuppies”, except they’re no longer all young), which is among the principal advocates and beneficiaries of open borders? (Note the complete absence of Catholics and mainline Protestants from your list, though vastly more numerous.)

    I don’t care what you call it, it’s persistent and widespread. Sort of like Black failure. E.g., Jews voted 75% against Trump. Whites voted in the main FOR him. So Jews are worse. A lot worse.

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  212. Svigor says:

    Here’s how we know Jews aren’t just nice white leftists, like all the other nice White leftists: Israel. Zionism. Real nice white leftists would’ve dismantled that shit long before now. Jewish ethnocentrism and zealotry are the only reason real nice white leftists don’t notice or enforce the rules for Jews.

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  213. @peterike

    Or simply put their employers in prison and provide financial rewards for patriots who tip off the enforcers.

     

    Of you could make a Federal law that anyone with an illegal immigration status will be considered an invading enemy, given a military trial (no jury) and, upon being found guilty, executed the same day.

    Sure, sure, you'd end up executing say 10 or 20 people. But after that, they'd all be gone.

    Of you could make a Federal law that anyone with an illegal immigration status will be considered an invading enemy, given a military trial (no jury) and, upon being found guilty, executed the same day.

    That’s the beauty of hammering their employers – no new laws required. Not sure about the rewards for tips, but that IS available under tax code and anybody employing illegals is almost guaranteed a tax cheat as well with false 941′s and probably false reports of income as well.

    Besides, the treasonous employers belong in prison.

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  214. … While it is true that there are horrific stories of organized rings of rapists with immigrant backgrounds — such as a group of Pakistanis in Rotherham, in the U.K., who groomed teenage girls for sex — there’s no evidence that immigrants overall rape or steal at rates higher than the general population.

    Well, they certainly commit political murder at rates around 50 times higher than the general population. The overall rape figures are worth investigation. My own rough calculation suggested that a few percent of the male Muslim population of Rotherham were involved in child sex abuse – obviously a small minority, but quite possibly 100 times higher than the fraction of the general population who are guilty of the same crime.

    When asylum seekers do not belong to a persecuted religious or ethnic minority in their home country, we can reasonably expect that they will bring with them the values of that country – including the dysfunctionality that they pretend to be fleeing. This alone should be sufficient reason to refuse them.

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  215. @JohnnyWalker123
    A few years ago, Obama said Israel should go back to its 1967 borders. Massive controversy ensued, during which both the Republican and Democratic parties broke with Obama and sided with Netanyahu.

    Even liberal Democratic rocker Gene Simmons was angry at Obama.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YK7UGytvs8

    I thought entertainers were liberal. I don't know they could be so defensive of borders.

    Very strange.

    Even liberal Democratic rocker Gene Simmons was angry at Obama.

    Simmons isn’t a liberal:

    I’m a very conservative foreign policy person. Fiscally, I’m very conservative. I don’t believe in welfare states. I believe in giving people jobs. Most importantly, I believe I’m like most Americans, I’m socially liberal.

    America is the world’s only hope for a bright future. Yes. I mean that. Yes, I know you live in another country and your country is cool, too. But, America is the only Superpower. There are no others. And that means, the world is a better place. Because if Nazi Germany or Communist Russia were the only superpowers, we would all be either dead or forced to live under their regimes. America is not interested in ruling your country. If you think it does, smoking crack may be your answer.

    I wasn’t born here. But, I have a love for this country and its people that knows no bounds. I will forever be grateful to America for going into World War II, when it had nothing to gain, in a country that was far away…and rescued my Mother from the Nazi German Concentration Camps.

    She is alive and I am alive because of America. And, if you have a problem with America, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME.

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  216. Yan Shen says:
    @Svigor
    Here's how we know Jews aren't just nice white leftists, like all the other nice White leftists: Israel. Zionism. Real nice white leftists would've dismantled that shit long before now. Jewish ethnocentrism and zealotry are the only reason real nice white leftists don't notice or enforce the rules for Jews.

    Welcome back Kato!

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  217. @Yan Shen
    In general I support nationalism and for the most part disagree with Mr. Mehta's arguments. I wonder though if his comments about the colonization of India have some merit.

    When you invade the world, you create a chain of chaos that inevitably leads to inadvertently inviting the world as well. Just think of all the refugee situations that have been created by America bombing the shit out of whatever god forsaken countries in this world.

    On the other hand, modern day China or Japan for the most part pursue policies of political non-interference and a focus on narrow national interests.

    Maybe this requires a bargain on both sides? Don't invade the world and don't invite the world. And if you invaded some place in the past, at least be cognizant of that when having a conversation about modern day nationalism.

    I think almost everyone on iSteve is against Invade/Invite. However, it’s an open question whether it is really the kind of relationships the US has with foreign countries that is the main factor in our immigration problem.

    There are examples of times when US foreign policy seems to have led directly to immigration. For example, the US experienced increased Vietnamese immigration during and after the Vietnam War.

    On the other hand, we caused a shitstorm in Libya, and we have almost no Libyan immigrants.

    From North Africa, the vast majority of immigrants are from Egypt, and they are mostly refugees of religious persecution or economic migrants. The US did not foment any chaos that led them to come.

    In the Middle East, there are a large number of Iraqi refugees displaced by our foreign adventurism there, but they are mostly located in other places in the ME. The ones who have come to the US have mostly come via UN resettlement programs.

    And our most notorious immigrants, the stabby Somalis, have also been displaced by war, but not war for which the US is responsible.

    I think the conclusion to be drawn from these examples is that there is not really a line of causation going from Invade to Invite. Immigration is a matter of domestic policy, not foreign policy, and the decision to emigrate to the US is prompted by factors other than simply whether the US is mucking around in another country’s internal affairs.

    And I’m guessing the biggest factors affecting that decision are simple opportunity and bandwagon effect. The majority of Mexicans coming north come because they can just walk across the border. Our domestic policy makes it easy for them to come and stay, and their decision is based on job opportunity, proximity, and the fact that so many other Mexicans have already done it. Would they all be staying in Mexico if not for drug violence supported by US demand for drugs? I doubt it. Looking at the graphs below, it looks like Mexican immigration was increasing throughout the 90s as the homicide rate was going down, and it didn’t jump up again when the homicide rate went up in 2007. However, the initial spike in Mexican immigration did follow a big jump in the Mexican unemployment rate.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?id=LRUNTTTTMXM156S&nsh=1

    As for the situation with India and the UK, I am not very knowledgeable about the history of the British Raj. However, I note from the following chart that India’s share of the world economy fell drastically as a result of a statistical artifact related to the massive intrusion and dominance of the US economy in the 20th century.

    You cannot argue that India was impoverished by the British Raj based on share of world economy. Is it the case that Indian development was held back? Maybe, but I doubt it. It would take a pretty detailed summary of specific ways that the UK undermined Indian development for me to believe that the net impact of the British wasn’t basically neutral. Of course, the circumstances are quite different, but in Hong Kong and Singapore, British imperialism doesn’t seem to have done them much harm. The African experience suggests that resource extraction is prone to creating big disparities in profit, whether that is going to a few domestic elites or a few foreign elites. So, I’m not going to just accept the idea of immigrants as creditors either. Diamonds aren’t worth anything without wealthy buyers, so they would have ended up in the hands of Europeans and Americans anyway, regardless of any colonialism.

    Overall, we must admit that international interactions are a necessary condition for migration. (If Japan* hadn’t opened up after 1854, Japanese wouldn’t have emigrated to the US.) However, the nature of the interactions doesn’t determine the levels of migration, and interactions are not, by themselves, sufficient to account for migration.

    * By the way, speaking of Japan, their biggest immigrant problem, the Korean diaspora, was caused by importing semi-slave labor during the occupation of Korea. I note that the Japanese Imperial restoration, which was heavily influenced by Confucianism, led to pretty Invade-y and Invite-y behavior. On the other hand, their latter-day peace, trade, and non-migration habits have been developed under a constitution written by non-Confucian westerners.

    Also, it remains to be seen how China will act in the future. The comparison of their behavior now with the US global policing and the British Empire is apples and oranges because of the disparities in current power projection. Declaring that Chinese non-colonialism just reflects on Chinese character is like saying that India’s failure to colonize Malaysia 1850-1950 just reflects on Indian character. How were they going to do that under the auspices of the UK (US) global military regime?

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    However, it’s an open question whether it is really the kind of relationships the US has with foreign countries that is the main factor in our immigration problem.
     
    I'm not claiming that America invading the world is the main cause of its immigration woes, merely that it's a non-trivial cause of immigration to America and Europe. I don't think Mr. Mehta is necessarily off base when he asks us to ponder our own role in the creation of destabilizing situations worldwide. Iraq is one good example, but American demand for Latin American drugs is another. I'm not really claiming that Latin America would be a paradise sans foreign demand for its drugs, but I think he makes a good point in reminding us that many things in life are a complex web of inter-dependencies.

    I don't think it's particularly relevant whether or not India or Africa would've been better off sans European intervention. My main point was that I agree with Mr. Mehta in pointing out that being cognizant of this history at least makes the discussion about modern day nationalism and the self determination of nations and peoples easier to take seriously. Hence my analogy about someone breaking into another person's house but later lecturing everyone about the right of all people to the privacy of their own homes.

    Just put yourself in the shoes of someone in Africa. Most likely your nation went through a significant amount of recent European intervention. Imagine that now all of a sudden someone in Europe started lecturing to you about the importance of respecting national sovereignty and the right of all peoples to their own homelands. Even if you agreed, would the apparent hypocrisy of such rhetoric not sting you a little bit?

  218. @DFH
    Does it not bother liberals how much uglier (apart from everything else) third-world immigration makes our countries?

    https://img.gazeta.ru/files3/19/10387019/TASS_11202935-pic905-895x505-39985.jpg

    “… our countries?”

    (bored identity got this one, Jack D !)

    Hmmm…bored identity is little bit concerned with a fact that Nigerian Princess and her daughter are reading a book of fairy tales….in Russian?!

    And why’s there a model of S-400 at the table?

    Who sent you here, Tovarisch Petar?

    What’s your real mission?

    When was a last time you met with Viktor Bout?

    Does DFH stand for Duma’s Foreign Helper ?

    bored identity wants names!

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  219. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Mehta is filth but his ilk don’t control Western Media.

    Take a look at the kind of people who encourage him.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/staff/

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  220. Bubba says:
    @TheJester
    If I understand Suketu Mehta's argument, the West (a generic, wide-ranging concept that includes all Caucasians past, present, and future) looted India. Now, it's time for revenge. Immigrants have come to loot the West in return. With respect to Indians (having worked with them in IT and observed their corporate and social behaviors), I already knew that.

    The irony is that the immigrant looters are pressing moral arguments on us for open borders to make their looting quicker, easier, and more extensive via their overwhelming numbers. They are asking us to "cash out" our civilization and transfer its assets to them in the name of global equity and justice.

    Nothing succeeds like success! America has heard this same argument for decades from the American Civil Rights movement. Recall the start of the national "gibsmedat" program when Martin Luther changed his focus from legal equity to economic parity when he said,

    "Now our struggle is for genuine equality, which means economic equality. For we know that it isn't enough to integrate lunch counters. What does it profit a man to be able to eat at an integrated lunch counter if he doesn't earn enough money to buy a hamburger and a cup of coffee?"
    -- Martin Luther King
     
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eugene-robinson-mlks-call-for-economic-justice/2015/01/15/3599cb70-9cfe-11e4-96cc-e858eba91ced_story.html?utm_term=.dffb31696547

    Our new immigrants are doing nothing more than making this argument their own and taking it global. Recall that an appeal to equity and justice for past wrongs was the start of affirmative action, the offensive against disparate impacts and, when that didn't work, the suspension of belief required to open our borders and celebrate cultural diversity as a strength.

    How could we have foreseen that by buying into the tenets of the original Civil Rights movement that we would be sponsoring a festering social cancer that would ultimately destroy us?

    You are spot on with the Civil Rights movement question. Senator Barry Goldwater said, “Forced integration is as wrong as forced segregation,” during an address to Republicans in Chicago on October 16, 1964, He was referring to the question of Freedom of Association vs. Civil Rights. Unfortunately the Freedom of Association is now completely lost in the United States. Forced integration is now the law of the land which will ultimately lead to another civil war.

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  221. Svigor says:

    It’s not hate. Hell, it’s probably not even envy.

    It’s greed.

    Whitey is rich, and a soft touch. Such people become the targets of alllll sooooorts of nonseeeeense.

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  222. Yan Shen says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    I think almost everyone on iSteve is against Invade/Invite. However, it's an open question whether it is really the kind of relationships the US has with foreign countries that is the main factor in our immigration problem.

    There are examples of times when US foreign policy seems to have led directly to immigration. For example, the US experienced increased Vietnamese immigration during and after the Vietnam War.

    On the other hand, we caused a shitstorm in Libya, and we have almost no Libyan immigrants.

    From North Africa, the vast majority of immigrants are from Egypt, and they are mostly refugees of religious persecution or economic migrants. The US did not foment any chaos that led them to come.

    In the Middle East, there are a large number of Iraqi refugees displaced by our foreign adventurism there, but they are mostly located in other places in the ME. The ones who have come to the US have mostly come via UN resettlement programs.

    And our most notorious immigrants, the stabby Somalis, have also been displaced by war, but not war for which the US is responsible.

    I think the conclusion to be drawn from these examples is that there is not really a line of causation going from Invade to Invite. Immigration is a matter of domestic policy, not foreign policy, and the decision to emigrate to the US is prompted by factors other than simply whether the US is mucking around in another country's internal affairs.

    And I'm guessing the biggest factors affecting that decision are simple opportunity and bandwagon effect. The majority of Mexicans coming north come because they can just walk across the border. Our domestic policy makes it easy for them to come and stay, and their decision is based on job opportunity, proximity, and the fact that so many other Mexicans have already done it. Would they all be staying in Mexico if not for drug violence supported by US demand for drugs? I doubt it. Looking at the graphs below, it looks like Mexican immigration was increasing throughout the 90s as the homicide rate was going down, and it didn't jump up again when the homicide rate went up in 2007. However, the initial spike in Mexican immigration did follow a big jump in the Mexican unemployment rate.

    http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2012/04/2012-phc-mexican-migration-03a.png

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/03/31/20/3ED1282A00000578-4368832-image-a-47_1490987894038.jpg

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?id=LRUNTTTTMXM156S&nsh=1


    As for the situation with India and the UK, I am not very knowledgeable about the history of the British Raj. However, I note from the following chart that India's share of the world economy fell drastically as a result of a statistical artifact related to the massive intrusion and dominance of the US economy in the 20th century.
    http://2oqz471sa19h3vbwa53m33yj.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/share-of-gdp-history1070.jpg
    You cannot argue that India was impoverished by the British Raj based on share of world economy. Is it the case that Indian development was held back? Maybe, but I doubt it. It would take a pretty detailed summary of specific ways that the UK undermined Indian development for me to believe that the net impact of the British wasn't basically neutral. Of course, the circumstances are quite different, but in Hong Kong and Singapore, British imperialism doesn't seem to have done them much harm. The African experience suggests that resource extraction is prone to creating big disparities in profit, whether that is going to a few domestic elites or a few foreign elites. So, I'm not going to just accept the idea of immigrants as creditors either. Diamonds aren't worth anything without wealthy buyers, so they would have ended up in the hands of Europeans and Americans anyway, regardless of any colonialism.

    Overall, we must admit that international interactions are a necessary condition for migration. (If Japan* hadn't opened up after 1854, Japanese wouldn't have emigrated to the US.) However, the nature of the interactions doesn't determine the levels of migration, and interactions are not, by themselves, sufficient to account for migration.

    * By the way, speaking of Japan, their biggest immigrant problem, the Korean diaspora, was caused by importing semi-slave labor during the occupation of Korea. I note that the Japanese Imperial restoration, which was heavily influenced by Confucianism, led to pretty Invade-y and Invite-y behavior. On the other hand, their latter-day peace, trade, and non-migration habits have been developed under a constitution written by non-Confucian westerners.

    Also, it remains to be seen how China will act in the future. The comparison of their behavior now with the US global policing and the British Empire is apples and oranges because of the disparities in current power projection. Declaring that Chinese non-colonialism just reflects on Chinese character is like saying that India's failure to colonize Malaysia 1850-1950 just reflects on Indian character. How were they going to do that under the auspices of the UK (US) global military regime?

    However, it’s an open question whether it is really the kind of relationships the US has with foreign countries that is the main factor in our immigration problem.

    I’m not claiming that America invading the world is the main cause of its immigration woes, merely that it’s a non-trivial cause of immigration to America and Europe. I don’t think Mr. Mehta is necessarily off base when he asks us to ponder our own role in the creation of destabilizing situations worldwide. Iraq is one good example, but American demand for Latin American drugs is another. I’m not really claiming that Latin America would be a paradise sans foreign demand for its drugs, but I think he makes a good point in reminding us that many things in life are a complex web of inter-dependencies.

    I don’t think it’s particularly relevant whether or not India or Africa would’ve been better off sans European intervention. My main point was that I agree with Mr. Mehta in pointing out that being cognizant of this history at least makes the discussion about modern day nationalism and the self determination of nations and peoples easier to take seriously. Hence my analogy about someone breaking into another person’s house but later lecturing everyone about the right of all people to the privacy of their own homes.

    Just put yourself in the shoes of someone in Africa. Most likely your nation went through a significant amount of recent European intervention. Imagine that now all of a sudden someone in Europe started lecturing to you about the importance of respecting national sovereignty and the right of all peoples to their own homelands. Even if you agreed, would the apparent hypocrisy of such rhetoric not sting you a little bit?

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  223. Saxon says:
    @unit472
    When India was partitioned in 1947 population of the 'subcontinent' was about 350 million and the UK 55 million. Today the numbers are over 1.5 billion and 65 million respectively. That and 50 years of various socialist schemes is the main reason for the wealth disparity between the subcontinent and the UK.

    Racial differences are the main reason. Average UK native IQ is 100-105 depending on region. Not so in India. Also, diversity is bad. India is largely a corrupt unmanagable hellhole because of the number of different racial/ethnic groups there. No one has any reason to pay it forward or really be anything other than corrupt in the political system. Same reason the Scandinavian welfare state is doomed. Nordic people aren’t going to want to continue paying for foreign people to outbreed them in their own land. It was intended to help their own people and only those who genuinely needed it–it was intended for a population with good work ethic to catch those who fell between the cracks. Not for moslem colonists to pop out 8 jihadi babies.

    One reason that India went from 33% of the world GDP to 3% during this period he mentions — and he won’t give details on this since it’s part of the trick — is that the British people, scientists, inventors and all basically created the industrial revolution and all of the increased productivity that came from it. Strange that even after full decolonization all of these countries with low average IQ and lowtrust/diversity problems have failed to industrialize and become prosperous. Not a problem in South Korea or Japan, though, was it? So what is the common factor? Like I said, racial differences and a lack of baggage caused by racial diversity.

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  224. Nico says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    And have never taken hold in Hungary, Czechia or Poland. Why? Simple: you don’t hit people who demonstrate the means AND the will to retaliate.
     
    No, it's because these countries took the obvious and simple step of just not letting many Muslims in. It is hard to imagine a people less likely to retaliate than the wussy Czechs.

    Russia has the means and the will to retaliate, and Islamic terrorism still takes place there. Segregation is simply the best and most humane answer.

    True enough. Though plenty of terrorists in France are born in the country and the Schengen Agreement would make it quite cakey to access the Central European countries if they so desired. The principal problem of course would be moving undetected.

    And there are different means of retaliation. The dearth of Muslims in those countries means there are no local “communities” to retaliate against and obviously the countries in question are in no position to start bombing abroad.

    Personally I’m in favor of dirty-bombing Mecca with pigs’ blood and dog corpses.

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  225. Moses says:
    @anon

    the former U.N. undersecretary-general for communications and public information, gave a compelling Oxford Union speech that made the case for (symbolic) reparations owed by Britain to India. “India’s share of the world economy when Britain arrived on its shores was 23 percent. By the time the British left, it was down to below 4 percent. Why?” he asked. “Simply because India had been governed for the benefit of Britain. Britain’s rise for 200 years was financed by its depredations in India.
     
    Yet another thing Indians and Africans have in common, they both let their societies rot in hell while blaming whites for everything. People who have no capacity for introspection will not move forward. Blacks, Jews, Muslims, Hispanics, Native Americans, and now East Indians, all the groups constantly blaming everyone else for their problems, racism, slavery, anti-semitism, Islamaphobia, colonialism, the drug trade, you name it, nothing is ever their own stinking fault, everything is always someone else's fault. Societies run by these loser groups will always be failed societies.

    You don't see the Northeast Asians sitting around blaming everyone else for their problems. They just roll up their sleeves and get to work. China was poorer than India until the 1970s. Then they woke up and got to work. Today China's per capita GDP is 5x that of India's. While the Indians like Mehta sit around and blame everything on the west, the Chinese got to work. It's time for the west to realize what Indians really are, a bunch of chest thumping bullshit artists of the East, anything but the "best and brightest" they claim themselves to be. If Indians were so smart, their country wouldn't be such a shit hole.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-02/india-not-next-china


    If one assumes that India continues to grow at a rate of 7.5%, and China at a rate of 6.3% from here on out, it will take 127 years before India’s per capita growth will actually begin to exceed China’s.
     

    If Indians were so smart, their country wouldn’t be such a shit hole.

    Yep. Smart is as smart does.

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  226. Boudicca says:

    More for the India file:

    Get Cosmic

    John A. McDonald is “an enforcer of Aryan supremacy” and “a criminally flawed man.” “Canadian history lessons need a back-to-school reboot: Paradkar.” So says the Toronto Star. This “upper-caste Indian” writer, inspired by “Hindu goddesses”, also writes propaganda for Black Lives Matter: “You don’t have to hate the police to agree with BLM — it’s not a zero-sum game.” In fact, it is. At an anti-Islamophobia protest Yusra Khogali of BLM Toronto denounced JustinTrudeau as a “white supremacist terrorist.” McDonald = Hitler = Trudeau. There are no shades of white in the white privilege story.

    Beside her solidarity with Africans, Paradkar feels closely allied with Canadian Aboriginals: “I had thought of Indigenous people as a scattered group of what are called ‘tribals’ in India…people of a bygone era, living on their own remote lands, untouched by modernity…they have more in common with us, the millions from colonized lands who have known and felt the tragedies that the colonizers wrought on our people.”

    Lies. Paradkar is an Indian colonizer who has entered into and enjoys the legacy of McDonald et al. Paradkar’s ideas about India’s Aboriginals are wildly romanticized: the Adivasi comprise 8.6% of the population of India – 104 million – not some small, “scattered group”. Nor are the Adivasi untouched by modernity: the primary method to deal with Aboriginal disenfranchisement in India is through “residential institutes” including the Kalinga Institute of Social Sciences, “World’s largest residential school for Indigenous children.” “A total transformation of the tribal children and a revolutionary endeavour.” They are taught English and computers. This program has the backing of the United Nations. Natives who feel they will somehow be liberated in the Asian Century will be sadly disappointed.

    One of the worst slumlords in Canada is the Indo-Canadian Sahota clan who have amassed a real estate empire worth an estimated $130 million. Their brand of crony socialism works like this: “Located at 159 East Hastings, the Balmoral Hotel is home to 168 tenants, most of whom are on income assistance and the government-subsidized rent of around $450 a month [roughly $900,000 / year] is generally paid directly to the owners.” (Vancouver Sun). The small, usually unheated, run-down rooms are infested with cockroaches, bedbugs, mice, mildew, mould. Residents share toilets, often clogged and overflowing. June 2017, the Balmoral was deemed uninhabitable and at risk of collapsing – floors so rotten the bathtubs couldn’t be used for fear of crashing through, wooden beams rotten after decades of leaks and neglect. The Sahotas still operate 4 other micro-ghettoes. Whatever one thinks of John “Aryan” McDonald, he died in 1891; the Sahotas of the land are alive and well and running something akin to the Warsaw Ghetto for native Canadians – both Aboriginal and white.

    India has the most slaves of any nation, 18 million / 1.4% of population. While Marxists attack statues, living, breathing slaves languish in appalling conditions. Times of India: “53% Indian households defecate in open: World Bank says on World Toilet Day.” 600 million people – an ocean of excreta. While Progressives rant on about ethnic nationalism in the United States, Trump is actually a late reactionary to the party. Narendra Modi is a member of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) (an explicitly Hindu nationalist party) and member ultra-right-wing Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). Modi was barred from entering the United States by the State Department. Recently, BJP vigilantes have been on a tear, dispensing rough justice on those accused of eating beef. The separation of religion and state has all but dissolved in India. So, while BLM is free to conduct anti-Islamophobia protests in worst-of-the-worst Canada, fundamental Hindus in India are beating and lynching Muslims with impunity.

    When white people do behave badly it is often due to adopting Asian mores. After flooding in Texas, visiting assistant sociology professor Kenneth L. Storey was fired by the University of Tampa for tweeting: “I don’t believe in instant Karma but this kinda feels like it for Texas. Hopefully this will help them realize the GOP doesn’t care about them.” Instant Karma, of course, was one of John Lennon’s bon mots. The Beatles famously went to India to sit at the feet of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Lennon: “Dear Prudence is me. Written in India. A song about Mia Farrow’s sister, who seemed to go slightly barmy, meditating too long, and couldn’t come out of the little hut that we were livin’ in…She’d been locked in for three weeks and wouldn’t come out, trying to reach god quicker than anybody else. That was the competition in Maharishi’s camp: who was going to get cosmic first.”

    For the uninitiated, karma is the ancient Indian doctrine of fatalistic cause and effect central to Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism. Crudely, a glutton in this life might have been a pig in the previous. These Eastern ideas have been seeping into the West for decades and blown many progressive minds. KGB agents in India became fascinated with the guru brainwashing process. They observed good looking, physically fit, American youth arriving in India and within six months being reduced to emaciated, sallow, hollow-eyed zombies willing to obey every order, no matter how ridiculous. You might say Storey, like Lennon, is a dreamer – but he’s not the only one. There are millions of Dreamers in America joined by at least 20 million illegal aliens and 65 million Hillary voters fighting La Resistance.

    The Mad Men finale showed Don Draper meditating and ohming his way to advertising enlightenment – Coke’s famous “I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing in Perfect Harmony.” This spiritual retreat was modelled on the Esalen Institute, the vanguard of the human potential movement which expanded many minds. Jane Fonda during her romance with Dick Price (co-founder Esalen) was introduced to Eastern spirituality. Esalen offered marathon encounter groups (participants sometimes physically attacked each other), nude massage, group sex, and psychedelic drug trips. How “the loveliest and most gifted of all our new young actresses” (Newsday) got from all-American girl to Vietcong centerfold. Fonda: “If I was used, I allowed it to happen.”

    Eastern spirituality is big business today. Chip Wilson, one of only 2,077 billionaires on the planet, built an empire on yoga and Eastern mysticism. Wilson’s Lululemon was featured on Oprah’s Favorite Things. Wilson attributes the popularity of his expensive yoga togs to the sexual revolution, birth control and that “power girls” have been largely freed from the constraints of marriage, monogamy and motherhood. Wilson courted controversy by saying Third World children should be allowed to work in factories because it provides them with needed wages: “I look at it the same way the WTO does it, and that is that the single easiest way to spread wealth around the world is to have poor countries pull themselves out of poverty.” (Tyee.) Relatedly, Wilson is a devotee of the benzedrine-fuelled Ayn Rand: “We all have a John Galt inside of us, cheering us on. How are we going to live lives we love?”

    The rot is deep. Toronto Star’s readership trend is down 41%. Presumably, the self-fulfilling fantasy of all-white-people-are-Nazis has limited appeal. Wilson was driven out of Lululemon for bizarre statements. Society has invested vast amounts of time, energy and money in professors like Storey only to fire them. Society has invested vast amounts of time, energy and money in power yoga girls who often are unable to bear even one child unto demographic collapse. The underclass continues to expand while the slums rot unto collapse. The billionaires of our plutocracy have grown fantastically rich through guruism and Eastern brainwashing techniques. I do not presume to know the workings of Divine judgment, but if it is to come it could well be because Western people have abandoned Western Christianity and the Enlightenment for pagan idolatry, materialism, sensualism, magical thinking and superstition.

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    I kind of agreed with you, but the end of your comment made me change my mind. No way is anyone going back to believing in a virgin giving birth, a corpse coming back to life, or a father being his own son. Not to mention the litany of dubious "miracles" the church keeps coming up with. Keep those tall tales for the children, the sensible adults need something better.
  227. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Boudicca
    More for the India file:

    Get Cosmic

    John A. McDonald is “an enforcer of Aryan supremacy” and “a criminally flawed man.” “Canadian history lessons need a back-to-school reboot: Paradkar.” So says the Toronto Star. This “upper-caste Indian” writer, inspired by “Hindu goddesses”, also writes propaganda for Black Lives Matter: “You don’t have to hate the police to agree with BLM — it’s not a zero-sum game.” In fact, it is. At an anti-Islamophobia protest Yusra Khogali of BLM Toronto denounced JustinTrudeau as a “white supremacist terrorist.” McDonald = Hitler = Trudeau. There are no shades of white in the white privilege story.

    Beside her solidarity with Africans, Paradkar feels closely allied with Canadian Aboriginals: “I had thought of Indigenous people as a scattered group of what are called ‘tribals’ in India…people of a bygone era, living on their own remote lands, untouched by modernity…they have more in common with us, the millions from colonized lands who have known and felt the tragedies that the colonizers wrought on our people.”

    Lies. Paradkar is an Indian colonizer who has entered into and enjoys the legacy of McDonald et al. Paradkar’s ideas about India’s Aboriginals are wildly romanticized: the Adivasi comprise 8.6% of the population of India - 104 million - not some small, “scattered group”. Nor are the Adivasi untouched by modernity: the primary method to deal with Aboriginal disenfranchisement in India is through “residential institutes” including the Kalinga Institute of Social Sciences, “World’s largest residential school for Indigenous children.” “A total transformation of the tribal children and a revolutionary endeavour.” They are taught English and computers. This program has the backing of the United Nations. Natives who feel they will somehow be liberated in the Asian Century will be sadly disappointed.

    One of the worst slumlords in Canada is the Indo-Canadian Sahota clan who have amassed a real estate empire worth an estimated $130 million. Their brand of crony socialism works like this: “Located at 159 East Hastings, the Balmoral Hotel is home to 168 tenants, most of whom are on income assistance and the government-subsidized rent of around $450 a month [roughly $900,000 / year] is generally paid directly to the owners.” (Vancouver Sun). The small, usually unheated, run-down rooms are infested with cockroaches, bedbugs, mice, mildew, mould. Residents share toilets, often clogged and overflowing. June 2017, the Balmoral was deemed uninhabitable and at risk of collapsing - floors so rotten the bathtubs couldn’t be used for fear of crashing through, wooden beams rotten after decades of leaks and neglect. The Sahotas still operate 4 other micro-ghettoes. Whatever one thinks of John “Aryan” McDonald, he died in 1891; the Sahotas of the land are alive and well and running something akin to the Warsaw Ghetto for native Canadians - both Aboriginal and white.

    India has the most slaves of any nation, 18 million / 1.4% of population. While Marxists attack statues, living, breathing slaves languish in appalling conditions. Times of India: “53% Indian households defecate in open: World Bank says on World Toilet Day.” 600 million people - an ocean of excreta. While Progressives rant on about ethnic nationalism in the United States, Trump is actually a late reactionary to the party. Narendra Modi is a member of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) (an explicitly Hindu nationalist party) and member ultra-right-wing Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). Modi was barred from entering the United States by the State Department. Recently, BJP vigilantes have been on a tear, dispensing rough justice on those accused of eating beef. The separation of religion and state has all but dissolved in India. So, while BLM is free to conduct anti-Islamophobia protests in worst-of-the-worst Canada, fundamental Hindus in India are beating and lynching Muslims with impunity.

    When white people do behave badly it is often due to adopting Asian mores. After flooding in Texas, visiting assistant sociology professor Kenneth L. Storey was fired by the University of Tampa for tweeting: “I don’t believe in instant Karma but this kinda feels like it for Texas. Hopefully this will help them realize the GOP doesn’t care about them.” Instant Karma, of course, was one of John Lennon’s bon mots. The Beatles famously went to India to sit at the feet of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Lennon: “Dear Prudence is me. Written in India. A song about Mia Farrow's sister, who seemed to go slightly barmy, meditating too long, and couldn't come out of the little hut that we were livin' in…She'd been locked in for three weeks and wouldn't come out, trying to reach god quicker than anybody else. That was the competition in Maharishi's camp: who was going to get cosmic first.”

    For the uninitiated, karma is the ancient Indian doctrine of fatalistic cause and effect central to Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism. Crudely, a glutton in this life might have been a pig in the previous. These Eastern ideas have been seeping into the West for decades and blown many progressive minds. KGB agents in India became fascinated with the guru brainwashing process. They observed good looking, physically fit, American youth arriving in India and within six months being reduced to emaciated, sallow, hollow-eyed zombies willing to obey every order, no matter how ridiculous. You might say Storey, like Lennon, is a dreamer - but he’s not the only one. There are millions of Dreamers in America joined by at least 20 million illegal aliens and 65 million Hillary voters fighting La Resistance.

    The Mad Men finale showed Don Draper meditating and ohming his way to advertising enlightenment - Coke’s famous "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing in Perfect Harmony." This spiritual retreat was modelled on the Esalen Institute, the vanguard of the human potential movement which expanded many minds. Jane Fonda during her romance with Dick Price (co-founder Esalen) was introduced to Eastern spirituality. Esalen offered marathon encounter groups (participants sometimes physically attacked each other), nude massage, group sex, and psychedelic drug trips. How "the loveliest and most gifted of all our new young actresses" (Newsday) got from all-American girl to Vietcong centerfold. Fonda: "If I was used, I allowed it to happen."

    Eastern spirituality is big business today. Chip Wilson, one of only 2,077 billionaires on the planet, built an empire on yoga and Eastern mysticism. Wilson’s Lululemon was featured on Oprah’s Favorite Things. Wilson attributes the popularity of his expensive yoga togs to the sexual revolution, birth control and that “power girls” have been largely freed from the constraints of marriage, monogamy and motherhood. Wilson courted controversy by saying Third World children should be allowed to work in factories because it provides them with needed wages: “I look at it the same way the WTO does it, and that is that the single easiest way to spread wealth around the world is to have poor countries pull themselves out of poverty.” (Tyee.) Relatedly, Wilson is a devotee of the benzedrine-fuelled Ayn Rand: “We all have a John Galt inside of us, cheering us on. How are we going to live lives we love?”

    The rot is deep. Toronto Star’s readership trend is down 41%. Presumably, the self-fulfilling fantasy of all-white-people-are-Nazis has limited appeal. Wilson was driven out of Lululemon for bizarre statements. Society has invested vast amounts of time, energy and money in professors like Storey only to fire them. Society has invested vast amounts of time, energy and money in power yoga girls who often are unable to bear even one child unto demographic collapse. The underclass continues to expand while the slums rot unto collapse. The billionaires of our plutocracy have grown fantastically rich through guruism and Eastern brainwashing techniques. I do not presume to know the workings of Divine judgment, but if it is to come it could well be because Western people have abandoned Western Christianity and the Enlightenment for pagan idolatry, materialism, sensualism, magical thinking and superstition.

    I kind of agreed with you, but the end of your comment made me change my mind. No way is anyone going back to believing in a virgin giving birth, a corpse coming back to life, or a father being his own son. Not to mention the litany of dubious “miracles” the church keeps coming up with. Keep those tall tales for the children, the sensible adults need something better.

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  228. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    ” there’s no evidence that immigrants overall rape or steal at rates higher than the general population.”

    http://thosewhocansee.blogspot.ch/p/tables-and-graphs.html

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  229. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Svigor
    I love how leftists want to destroy all Western traditions, but the American tradition of immigration is sacrosanct. America has lots of traditions, folks. Like, say, the founding tradition of violent revolution by racist White men.

    Africans are AFRAID of Russians. Its better to be poor and violent and so dangerous that everyone leaves you alone, than to be wealthy and loved. It is best of all to be rich and feared, but we are not Japan.
     
    Problem is West Virginians are being left alone, too, so it seems that the poverty is the real defense, this side of simply taking your own side in a fight, like the Japs do. Japs intimidate no one; they're rich and soft and they control their borders.

    Tiresome.



    Not an argument.

    Yes, that claim is part of the Sailer Doctrine. It is also believed by many paleoconservatives and nearly everyone on the “Alt-Right”. But what if it isn’t true? What if Jewish support for open borders tracked closely their representation in the urban upper middle class (what used to be called “Yuppies”, except they’re no longer all young), which is among the principal advocates and beneficiaries of open borders? (Note the complete absence of Catholics and mainline Protestants from your list, though vastly more numerous.)
     
    I don't care what you call it, it's persistent and pervasive. Sort of like Black failure. E.g., Jews voted 75% against Trump. Whites voted in the main FOR him. So Jews are worse. A lot worse.

    But if you actually go onto social media and look for Jewish opinions and behavior, you'll see that they are VERY DIFFERENT.
     

     

    “I love how leftists want to destroy all Western traditions, but the American tradition of immigration is sacrosanct.”

    It’s like when you see Keith Olbermann, Muslims, or DACA Mexicans draped in American flags, Every other day of the year besides School Picture Day, they’re spitting on and burning the Stars and Stripes, and sh*tting on all things America.

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  230. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Tiny Duck
    The truth is that white people are fake Americans. People of Color have made all contributions and advancements to the country. It is the white man that has done nothing but stolen and plundered. You shouldn't feel demographic change just because you cannot keep up with superior people

    Oh, Lawdy I still remumber that day, what was it, sometime around 1930 I think, when I heared on the radjo ’bout that Missa Jackson and his Penicillin, gonna help all them white boys over in Europe. Po stahvin’ fools, all o’em but ya feel sorry for ‘em- Mamma always used to tell us,”eat all yo meat and vegetables, they’s po white folks stahvin’ o’er in Europe who ain’t got nearly as much as you”. You reminds me of the time my great-great-great granpappy Washinton, you know, the one all them white folks and streets and places is named aftah; my granpappy he went and sailed that boat crosst the Potomick and beat them redcoats the hell on back to England. When folks axed him,” how foe you beat all them trained millitia with you handful o’ locals from ’round the way?” he always ‘plied back,”Course fool! What you thinkin’? They’s all white boys! In all these years, ain’t never been no white boy never ‘complished nothin’ “

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  231. Good article! The end result of western civilization (and anyone who chose to follow the model, like Japan) is demographic crisis and collapse. You can build walls and all, but gee, there’s so few of you left! Below replacement fertility everywhere! So long.

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  232. @KM32
    It ends with the collapse of America into chaos and internecine violence, or perhaps just sinking to Third World status. Once there are no more nice parts of the country left, or third generation brown people running the country have had enough of fresh-off-the-boat types, the borders close.

    I predict that will come in 50-70 years, when the population is 600 million or so, roughly 75% non-white, and large areas of the country are roughly as chaotic as Brazil. Following trends, Europe will have collapsed as a center of civilization, and China and Japan will be old and fading. We might have a big civilizational collapse, and then something new will be reborn from the old in 200-600 years.

    Depressing, of course, when relatively simple measures would keep civilization humming along. Population stabilization, mild eugenics practices, and control of borders. That's all it would take.

    ounces of prevention are worth 2 tons of cure. Its sad that we all have to suffer a dim, dark, distoypian future because of the short sighted mental illness of the “greatest generation” and the spoiled brat spawn.

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  233. Thea says:
    @peterike

    Or simply put their employers in prison and provide financial rewards for patriots who tip off the enforcers.

     

    Of you could make a Federal law that anyone with an illegal immigration status will be considered an invading enemy, given a military trial (no jury) and, upon being found guilty, executed the same day.

    Sure, sure, you'd end up executing say 10 or 20 people. But after that, they'd all be gone.

    Indians in particular.

    Even Islam has more in common with western values than Hindu.

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  234. nigel says:
    @KM32
    It ends with the collapse of America into chaos and internecine violence, or perhaps just sinking to Third World status. Once there are no more nice parts of the country left, or third generation brown people running the country have had enough of fresh-off-the-boat types, the borders close.

    I predict that will come in 50-70 years, when the population is 600 million or so, roughly 75% non-white, and large areas of the country are roughly as chaotic as Brazil. Following trends, Europe will have collapsed as a center of civilization, and China and Japan will be old and fading. We might have a big civilizational collapse, and then something new will be reborn from the old in 200-600 years.

    Depressing, of course, when relatively simple measures would keep civilization humming along. Population stabilization, mild eugenics practices, and control of borders. That's all it would take.

    “Following trends, Europe will have collapsed as a center of civilization, and China and Japan will be old and fading. We might have a big civilizational collapse, and then something new will be reborn from the old in 200-600 years.”

    That depends on how far things decline. We are precariously perched as a technological society. Everything we have has been built up from our initial ability to utilize relatively easy to access fossil fuels and raw materials.

    We could lose the complex infrastructure that supports our civilisation if we don’t have a population that can maintain it. Once it is gone, it is going to be almost impossible to bring it back.

    Our ancestors could dig a hole in Texas and up “comes a bubblin’ crude”. Now we have to dig miles below the sea to get oil. A future black mestizo population of the Americas who have lost modern technology will have no access to oil and solar is not viable without oil to mine, refine and transport the rare earths required. All the intermediate steps from industrial revolution to modern technology will not be available to them.

    Even scarier than the loss of our nation, people and race, is the thought that once the west is good and gone, nothing like it can ever rise again. Humanity will be again condemned to live short, hard lives under tyranny and slavery until the species finally dies out on this rock.

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  235. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Behold “The Brave New World” the enemy wants to build on your mass graves. Not the glorious future of Star Trek with spaceships and gleaming towers. Not the space stations in geosynchronous orbits that turn for artificial gravity with centripetal force. No. New Dehli slumlords, Mestizo gangsters, black monsters raping everything they can catch, and the one you’re not supposed to notice living in a seedy little sex club with live sex acts and depraved exhibits. Not very bright is it?
    Its a freakshow of ugly, stupid, corrupt, sleazy and wallowing in crime and filth. Degraded subhumans mixed and mashed together by wanton sex in sickening open air displays like homeless dogs. Filth and feces lining every broken down dirt path, with burnt out buildings boarded up roughly like ancient ruins and surrounded by miles of ugly tiny ramshackle shacks.
    When someone says he wants me and mine dead so he can steal my ancestral heritage, I don’t want to argue. I’ll teach this little brown turd why his ancestors called me and mine Sahib, or he’ll be thrown into the sea like he would discard his garbage. Harsh? So?

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