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From the Jerusalem Post:

N.Y. CONSUL-GENERAL SEES OPPORTUNITY TO BOOST SUPPORT IN U.S. LATINO COMMUNITY

“Latino voices are carrying greater weight, leaders from their communities are rising to positions of influence at all levels at an increasing frequency.”

BY DANIEL J. ROTH FEBRUARY 23, 2018 04:55

NEW YORK – The head of Israel’s Consulate-General in New York is determined to build bridges with America’s Hispanic community, and has a plan to get them into the Jewish state’s corner.

Consul-General Dani Dayan believes Latinos have great untapped potential in terms of support for the Jewish state, and is working hard to [get] them on Israel’s side while he keeps a sharp eye on America’s shifting demographics. …

“This in turn means we have to recognize some areas as strategically important, and in the coming years this includes the Hispanic communities. We see their rise, how they are going to be the demographic plurality in the US in the future,” he added. …

The 62-year-old Israeli envoy is also viewed by some as a controversial figure. Making his home in the West Bank settlement of Ma’aleh Shomron, and eventually heading the Yesha Council – the umbrella organization representing municipal councils in Judea and Samaria – Dayan has been lightning rod for activists who view his presence in the area as illegal.

Meant to become ambassador to Brazil in 2015, his appointment was scuttled after Brasilia bulked at having to host the face of the settler movement in its capital. After months of tussling, the premier finally sent Dayan to Manhattan, where he has kept an open mind about outreach ever since.

… “I believe that in order for the Latino community to fulfill its true potential of leadership in this country, they have to be involved in every aspect of American political life including, for instance, foreign relations, and not only with Latin America, but in the world…

Meanwhile, Israel advocacy groups such as StandWithUs have paralleled the consulate’s efforts in an independent effort apart from the Israeli government with a new fellowship program aimed at Latino churches and students. …

But Dayan believes that more can be done in terms of reaching out to groups the government has traditionally ignored, breaching uncharted territory and testing the waters to see if another diplomatic front can be formed with America’s Hispanic community.

 
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  1. Good on ya Steve for mentioning the 800 lb gorilla in the room.

    This is only natural anyway. For what other reason does the American government exist besides advancing Israeli interests?

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  2. A lasting image of the Six-Day War was Moshe Dayan and his eyepatch. Now the patch has been passed to a new generation.

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    • Replies: @D. K.
    Moshe Dayan was reputedly the Israeli official who ordered the infamous attack on the U.S.S. Liberty, during the Six-Day War. He and L.B.J. should be chained to each other, in the Ninth Circle....
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  3. This isn’t foreign meddling. This is the type of PR exercise that is part of the standard consular role. Even the rather hopeful optimistic framing is boilerplate.

    See the Alliance Française for a much more sophisticated version of this type of outreach.

    It is a bit embarrassing that you’ve clearly designated this very normal activity as ‘foreign meddling’ for no other reason than Israel is doing it.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Alliance Française mostly just teaches French.
    , @Moses
    You forgot to say "anti-Semite" (whatever that may mean).
    , @Mr. Anon

    This isn’t foreign meddling. This is the type of PR exercise that is part of the standard consular role. Even the rather hopeful optimistic framing is boilerplate.
     

    The head of Israel’s Consulate-General in New York is determined to build bridges with America’s Hispanic community, and has a plan to get them into the Jewish state’s corner.
     
    Sounds like lobbying to me. Otherwise known as meddling.
    , @Anon
    This isn’t foreign meddling. This is the type of PR exercise that is part of the standard consular role.

    Distinction without a difference.
    , @Cortes
    Yes, it’s the soft power of the Alliance that gets you in.

    https://youtu.be/BFv83rX-wlI
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    An unusually inept piece of hasbara!
    , @M_Young
    Promoting the 'political leadership' of a specific ethnic group within a country is meddling in that country's politics.
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  4. Kind of bizarre. I don’t think courting Hispanics will help them get that bump up to $5 billion/ year, which they’ve sought for the past few years. Nor the Muslims though they did vote for Bernie.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    Just between us friends, is more than $5 billion. Special appropriations plus Israel's share of our $60 billion Black Budget. And keeping the Holy Land and Israel's 200 nukes and world leading drone technology under American control is worth every penny.
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  5. @Tyrion 2
    This isn't foreign meddling. This is the type of PR exercise that is part of the standard consular role. Even the rather hopeful optimistic framing is boilerplate.

    See the Alliance Française for a much more sophisticated version of this type of outreach.

    It is a bit embarrassing that you've clearly designated this very normal activity as 'foreign meddling' for no other reason than Israel is doing it.

    Alliance Française mostly just teaches French.

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    • Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    A tricky way to get us to liberate her twice last century!
    , @Tyrion 2
    Francophone. Francophile. La même différence.
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  6. Consul-General Dani Dayan believes Latinos have great untapped potential in terms of support for the Jewish state, and is working hard to [get] them on Israel’s side while he keeps a sharp eye on America’s shifting demographics.

    Plot twist — No one expects the Hispanic Inquisition! I predict a major resurgence of the Knights Templar Cartel.

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  7. White conservatives were told they had to support Israel at all costs. They have lobbied for Israel, supported US intervention in the middle east, and taken Israel’s side in her disputes with the Palestinians. And those that didn’t, like Pat Buchanan, were kicked to the curb.

    No matter that Israel would never be their lifeboat, they still supported Israel as she did what was necessary to ensure her demographic survival all while the USA’s was being threatened. Now it appears the Israelis will not even mourn the passing of the great White conservatives. They are already making plans for the new proprietors.

    Talk about being cucked.

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    • Replies: @Enochian
    How many countries have ever seriously repaid America for all the wars America has fought for them? I'm sure there'd be enough countries to make a list, but I'm betting it'd be a short list.
    As for Israel drumming up support from latinos in America - how do latin american countries feel about Israel? That might give us an idea as to how much support they'll be getting in the future white minority America.
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  8. @Ivy
    A lasting image of the Six-Day War was Moshe Dayan and his eyepatch. Now the patch has been passed to a new generation.

    Moshe Dayan was reputedly the Israeli official who ordered the infamous attack on the U.S.S. Liberty, during the Six-Day War. He and L.B.J. should be chained to each other, in the Ninth Circle….

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  9. @Anonymous
    Alliance Française mostly just teaches French.

    A tricky way to get us to liberate her twice last century!

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    A tricky way to get us to liberate her twice last century!
     
    The second instance was one of two times in the 20th century when we went to war to rescue an antisuffragist country from invasion by a suffragist neighbor. The other was in 1991. Korea could have been a third, but the South rushed suffrage through to look better when they asked us for help. Also, we'd just forced it on Japan.
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  10. @Tyrion 2
    This isn't foreign meddling. This is the type of PR exercise that is part of the standard consular role. Even the rather hopeful optimistic framing is boilerplate.

    See the Alliance Française for a much more sophisticated version of this type of outreach.

    It is a bit embarrassing that you've clearly designated this very normal activity as 'foreign meddling' for no other reason than Israel is doing it.

    You forgot to say “anti-Semite” (whatever that may mean).

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  11. @Tyrion 2
    This isn't foreign meddling. This is the type of PR exercise that is part of the standard consular role. Even the rather hopeful optimistic framing is boilerplate.

    See the Alliance Française for a much more sophisticated version of this type of outreach.

    It is a bit embarrassing that you've clearly designated this very normal activity as 'foreign meddling' for no other reason than Israel is doing it.

    This isn’t foreign meddling. This is the type of PR exercise that is part of the standard consular role. Even the rather hopeful optimistic framing is boilerplate.

    The head of Israel’s Consulate-General in New York is determined to build bridges with America’s Hispanic community, and has a plan to get them into the Jewish state’s corner.

    Sounds like lobbying to me. Otherwise known as meddling.

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  12. Non Christians (the vast majority of Istevers) don’t get it. Either Jews or Muslims will control the Holy Land. For those wanting a Pilgrimage to Jerusalem, its far better for Jews than Muslims to control the Holy Land. For those of the Atheist persuasion this does not matter.

    For Christians, it does. That and that alone explains Christian support for Jews. Its not love and devotion. Its simply about Jews vs. ISIS running the Holy Land. That’s it. And all that it is.

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    • Replies: @istevefan

    For Christians, it does. That and that alone explains Christian support for Jews. Its not love and devotion. Its simply about Jews vs. ISIS running the Holy Land. That’s it. And all that it is.
     
    ISIS exists because it was, and maybe still is, funded by our friends.

    As far as visiting the Holy Land, weren't we able to do this when the Ottoman's ran the place? Mark Twain wrote about in 1867.
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  13. @istevefan
    White conservatives were told they had to support Israel at all costs. They have lobbied for Israel, supported US intervention in the middle east, and taken Israel's side in her disputes with the Palestinians. And those that didn't, like Pat Buchanan, were kicked to the curb.

    No matter that Israel would never be their lifeboat, they still supported Israel as she did what was necessary to ensure her demographic survival all while the USA's was being threatened. Now it appears the Israelis will not even mourn the passing of the great White conservatives. They are already making plans for the new proprietors.

    Talk about being cucked.

    How many countries have ever seriously repaid America for all the wars America has fought for them? I’m sure there’d be enough countries to make a list, but I’m betting it’d be a short list.
    As for Israel drumming up support from latinos in America – how do latin american countries feel about Israel? That might give us an idea as to how much support they’ll be getting in the future white minority America.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    "how do latin american countries feel about Israel"

    White conservatives in Latin America love Israel, elite leftists hate it, the prole migrants we generally get as immigrants would have trouble with the question: "Which is the land of the Jews: Ireland, Israel, or Italy?"
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  14. @Tyrion 2
    This isn't foreign meddling. This is the type of PR exercise that is part of the standard consular role. Even the rather hopeful optimistic framing is boilerplate.

    See the Alliance Française for a much more sophisticated version of this type of outreach.

    It is a bit embarrassing that you've clearly designated this very normal activity as 'foreign meddling' for no other reason than Israel is doing it.

    This isn’t foreign meddling. This is the type of PR exercise that is part of the standard consular role.

    Distinction without a difference.

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    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    Promoting your own country to the people of the nation you are posted to is a standard responsibility of a consul. It is not 'meddling' if 'meddling' is to mean anything negative.
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  15. Not to meddle, but I see unz.com still hasn’t mastered the https thing. Ron, if you’re reading this, look into letsencrypt.org. If you’re running Linux on your server, letsencrypt will not only supply you with a valid certificate, but it’ll also automate the error-prone (as you’ve learned) process of forming a correct certificate signing request, installing the signed certificate, and configuring your web server to use that certificate. Just sayin’, it might work out better for you than what you’re doing now with bigdaddy.com.

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    Not to meddle, but I see unz.com still hasn’t mastered the https thing. Ron, if you’re reading this, look into letsencrypt.org. If you’re running Linux on your server, letsencrypt will not only supply you with a valid certificate, but it’ll also automate the error-prone (as you’ve learned) process of forming a correct certificate signing request, installing the signed certificate, and configuring your web server to use that certificate. Just sayin’, it might work out better for you than what you’re doing now with bigdaddy.com.
     
    Thanks for pointing this out. I can't imagine any reason that unz.com shouldn't have https:// in place. The writers and commenters should certainly appreciate it.
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  16. @Anon
    This isn’t foreign meddling. This is the type of PR exercise that is part of the standard consular role.

    Distinction without a difference.

    Promoting your own country to the people of the nation you are posted to is a standard responsibility of a consul. It is not ‘meddling’ if ‘meddling’ is to mean anything negative.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Or maybe countries meddle all the time in the internal politics of other countries?
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  17. @Anonymous
    Alliance Française mostly just teaches French.

    Francophone. Francophile. La même différence.

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  18. @Tyrion 2
    Promoting your own country to the people of the nation you are posted to is a standard responsibility of a consul. It is not 'meddling' if 'meddling' is to mean anything negative.

    Or maybe countries meddle all the time in the internal politics of other countries?

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    My point is that it takes a somewhat skewed perspective to see an Israeli consul promoting a good image of Israel in the country he is posted in as anything but mundane and positive. It is his job. 'Meddling' is not the right word to describe that particular activity.

    The endless, ill-informed and twee droning on from the America political class about how we, the UK, should not leave the EU was meddling. The substantial sums spent by the Obama administration to unseat Netanyahu was meddling. Had they simply put out messages saying how great blue jeans were and promoted Thanksgiving, I would never have termed it meddling.
    , @Charles Pewitt
    Chinese Communist Party gets prime real estate close to southern portion of Central Park in Manhattan. Not as close as the other famous hotel right at Central Park.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/966865455301431296
    , @Karl
    18 iSteve > Or maybe countries meddle all the time in the internal politics of other countries?


    did you complain when Manila had its Ambassador to Washington, do a full-court press to convince the US Congress to NOT expand the pool of countries whose nursing graduates are eligible to sit for the USA nursing exams?

    For that matter, did you complain when the US Department of State ==coerced== the Government of Singapore to make it legal for Singaporean physicians to prescribe chewing-gum-based pharmaceutical-routes-of-delivery ??!? Go read the Singapore-USA Free Trade Treaty, my friend.
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  19. @Whiskey
    Non Christians (the vast majority of Istevers) don't get it. Either Jews or Muslims will control the Holy Land. For those wanting a Pilgrimage to Jerusalem, its far better for Jews than Muslims to control the Holy Land. For those of the Atheist persuasion this does not matter.

    For Christians, it does. That and that alone explains Christian support for Jews. Its not love and devotion. Its simply about Jews vs. ISIS running the Holy Land. That's it. And all that it is.

    For Christians, it does. That and that alone explains Christian support for Jews. Its not love and devotion. Its simply about Jews vs. ISIS running the Holy Land. That’s it. And all that it is.

    ISIS exists because it was, and maybe still is, funded by our friends.

    As far as visiting the Holy Land, weren’t we able to do this when the Ottoman’s ran the place? Mark Twain wrote about in 1867.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    The Ottoman control of the Holy Land in 1867 when Twain visited was in name only, and even that much only because the British, French, and Russians couldn't agree on how to slice up its remaining territories.

    It wasn't just Israel; Bulgaria and Egypt were parts of the Ottoman Empire in name only for 120+ years each.
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  20. @Steve Sailer
    Or maybe countries meddle all the time in the internal politics of other countries?

    My point is that it takes a somewhat skewed perspective to see an Israeli consul promoting a good image of Israel in the country he is posted in as anything but mundane and positive. It is his job. ‘Meddling’ is not the right word to describe that particular activity.

    The endless, ill-informed and twee droning on from the America political class about how we, the UK, should not leave the EU was meddling. The substantial sums spent by the Obama administration to unseat Netanyahu was meddling. Had they simply put out messages saying how great blue jeans were and promoted Thanksgiving, I would never have termed it meddling.

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    • Replies: @Tex
    OK, it's not meddling. But then neither is some Russian buying un-grammatical ads on Facebook.

    Weird how only one of those is the object of a special prosecutor and a year-and-a-half's worth of outrage.
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  21. @songbird
    Kind of bizarre. I don't think courting Hispanics will help them get that bump up to $5 billion/ year, which they've sought for the past few years. Nor the Muslims though they did vote for Bernie.

    Just between us friends, is more than $5 billion. Special appropriations plus Israel’s share of our $60 billion Black Budget. And keeping the Holy Land and Israel’s 200 nukes and world leading drone technology under American control is worth every penny.

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    And keeping the Holy Land and Israel’s 200 nukes and world leading drone technology under American control is worth every penny.
     
    It isn't under American control. It's under Israeli control. And do you mean to say that the US government has launch authority for Israel's nuclear weapons? I'm certain they do not.

    And how has Israel done at keeping that drone technology under "american" control?

    US acts over Israeli arms sales to China

    If it's worth every penny, I suggest you pay for it. I'm not interested.

    , @Anon

    Just between us friends, is more than $5 billion. Special appropriations plus Israel’s share of our $60 billion Black Budget. And keeping the Holy Land and Israel’s 200 nukes and world leading drone technology under American control is worth every penny.
     
    In other words, Israel is using the products of stolen American technology to charge America protection money for the same. Nice racket if you can get it.
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  22. We need to insert some MS-13 DACA “Kiddies” into Israel.

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  23. @istevefan

    For Christians, it does. That and that alone explains Christian support for Jews. Its not love and devotion. Its simply about Jews vs. ISIS running the Holy Land. That’s it. And all that it is.
     
    ISIS exists because it was, and maybe still is, funded by our friends.

    As far as visiting the Holy Land, weren't we able to do this when the Ottoman's ran the place? Mark Twain wrote about in 1867.

    The Ottoman control of the Holy Land in 1867 when Twain visited was in name only, and even that much only because the British, French, and Russians couldn’t agree on how to slice up its remaining territories.

    It wasn’t just Israel; Bulgaria and Egypt were parts of the Ottoman Empire in name only for 120+ years each.

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  24. @Enochian
    How many countries have ever seriously repaid America for all the wars America has fought for them? I'm sure there'd be enough countries to make a list, but I'm betting it'd be a short list.
    As for Israel drumming up support from latinos in America - how do latin american countries feel about Israel? That might give us an idea as to how much support they'll be getting in the future white minority America.

    “how do latin american countries feel about Israel”

    White conservatives in Latin America love Israel, elite leftists hate it, the prole migrants we generally get as immigrants would have trouble with the question: “Which is the land of the Jews: Ireland, Israel, or Italy?”

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    Brazilian Evangelicals are very pro-Israel. Evangelicalism is the fastest growing religion in Brazil.

    But not many immigrants in The U.S consist of Brazilian Evangelicals.
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  25. @Tyrion 2
    This isn't foreign meddling. This is the type of PR exercise that is part of the standard consular role. Even the rather hopeful optimistic framing is boilerplate.

    See the Alliance Française for a much more sophisticated version of this type of outreach.

    It is a bit embarrassing that you've clearly designated this very normal activity as 'foreign meddling' for no other reason than Israel is doing it.

    Yes, it’s the soft power of the Alliance that gets you in.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Had the Dems had any brains they'd have sent The Rod to whoever she went to for plastic surgery.
    She's had some of the best work I've ever seen, and I've seen it at arm's length (fairly) recently.

    She does, however have serious peachfuzz. This can be an asset to older women since it photographs well.
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  26. @Steve Sailer
    Or maybe countries meddle all the time in the internal politics of other countries?

    Chinese Communist Party gets prime real estate close to southern portion of Central Park in Manhattan. Not as close as the other famous hotel right at Central Park.

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    the Chinese deal with the Waldorf goes back several years - methinks Obama and the NYT does not want this news to be mainstream. Shit, the Chinese owned Waldorf, like 6 years ago. It was very creepy that the one hotel, that belongs to America, is owned by China.
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    I know you are joking, right? haha? Chinese own Waldorf.
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  28. @Lot
    Just between us friends, is more than $5 billion. Special appropriations plus Israel's share of our $60 billion Black Budget. And keeping the Holy Land and Israel's 200 nukes and world leading drone technology under American control is worth every penny.

    And keeping the Holy Land and Israel’s 200 nukes and world leading drone technology under American control is worth every penny.

    It isn’t under American control. It’s under Israeli control. And do you mean to say that the US government has launch authority for Israel’s nuclear weapons? I’m certain they do not.

    And how has Israel done at keeping that drone technology under “american” control?

    US acts over Israeli arms sales to China

    If it’s worth every penny, I suggest you pay for it. I’m not interested.

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  29. Will not be hard, since Brookings writes about minorities as the engine for Millennial urban growth. Sounds almost positive!

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2018/02/20/minorities-are-the-demographic-engine-of-millennial-urban-growth/

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  31. Didn’t the German Foreign Office launch a similar initiative back in 1917? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram

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  32. @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    A tricky way to get us to liberate her twice last century!

    A tricky way to get us to liberate her twice last century!

    The second instance was one of two times in the 20th century when we went to war to rescue an antisuffragist country from invasion by a suffragist neighbor. The other was in 1991. Korea could have been a third, but the South rushed suffrage through to look better when they asked us for help. Also, we’d just forced it on Japan.

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  33. @Tyrion 2
    This isn't foreign meddling. This is the type of PR exercise that is part of the standard consular role. Even the rather hopeful optimistic framing is boilerplate.

    See the Alliance Française for a much more sophisticated version of this type of outreach.

    It is a bit embarrassing that you've clearly designated this very normal activity as 'foreign meddling' for no other reason than Israel is doing it.

    An unusually inept piece of hasbara!

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  34. For such a capitalist country, we really are terrible at cutting out the meddleman.

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  35. @Tyrion 2
    My point is that it takes a somewhat skewed perspective to see an Israeli consul promoting a good image of Israel in the country he is posted in as anything but mundane and positive. It is his job. 'Meddling' is not the right word to describe that particular activity.

    The endless, ill-informed and twee droning on from the America political class about how we, the UK, should not leave the EU was meddling. The substantial sums spent by the Obama administration to unseat Netanyahu was meddling. Had they simply put out messages saying how great blue jeans were and promoted Thanksgiving, I would never have termed it meddling.

    OK, it’s not meddling. But then neither is some Russian buying un-grammatical ads on Facebook.

    Weird how only one of those is the object of a special prosecutor and a year-and-a-half’s worth of outrage.

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    The Russian stuff is meddling. Were those Russian ads getting people to fall in love with Tolstoy's richly textured historical epics, it would be different. Of course, the Russian stuff is irrelevant too, but it is clearly a (very weak) attempt to meddle. I assume the entire Russian effort was merely a junket for some well-connected bureaucrats in the Russian security services, with a little messing about on social media along the way.

    By the way, I also assume Mueller is a good guy and that by him and Rosenstein following this nonsense up they are actively working to end this Russia hysteria and anti-Trump nonsense in the most unimpeachable manner.

    Fortunately for Americans, the real story seems to be of showboater Comey and a handful of swamp denizens acting in grossly illegal manners and subverting the law to further their own minor career interests. It is proof that the system needs fixing but it does not suggest that the bad guys hold all of the levers. The issue of the dictatorship of entertainment is seperate and that is critical. News entertainment has shown itself to be almost entirely poisonous throughout this debacle. Academic entertainment too. What can be done about them, I don't know. But those who need their delusions validated by others have clearly fully taken over the asylum.

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  36. @Tex
    OK, it's not meddling. But then neither is some Russian buying un-grammatical ads on Facebook.

    Weird how only one of those is the object of a special prosecutor and a year-and-a-half's worth of outrage.

    The Russian stuff is meddling. Were those Russian ads getting people to fall in love with Tolstoy’s richly textured historical epics, it would be different. Of course, the Russian stuff is irrelevant too, but it is clearly a (very weak) attempt to meddle. I assume the entire Russian effort was merely a junket for some well-connected bureaucrats in the Russian security services, with a little messing about on social media along the way.

    By the way, I also assume Mueller is a good guy and that by him and Rosenstein following this nonsense up they are actively working to end this Russia hysteria and anti-Trump nonsense in the most unimpeachable manner.

    Fortunately for Americans, the real story seems to be of showboater Comey and a handful of swamp denizens acting in grossly illegal manners and subverting the law to further their own minor career interests. It is proof that the system needs fixing but it does not suggest that the bad guys hold all of the levers. The issue of the dictatorship of entertainment is seperate and that is critical. News entertainment has shown itself to be almost entirely poisonous throughout this debacle. Academic entertainment too. What can be done about them, I don’t know. But those who need their delusions validated by others have clearly fully taken over the asylum.

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  38. So I’m going to wish Consul-General Dani Dayan good luck on this. I’ve seen these reach out to Latinos, Blacks etc., campaigns before and have watched them fail miserably. For Wall St. investment firms that I’ve been associated with for the last 20-years its part of the business cycle. Market polling comes back and notes that minorities don’t invest. This information get’s turned over to public relations, marketing, product development to formulate plans to create products that minorities will be attracted too and marketing programs focused on minority communities, all to much fanfare, executives slapping themselves on the back for job well done until few years later later when once again the market polling shows that minorities don’t invest and the cycle starts anew. Of course we’ve witnessed this in education, basically same pattern. Minorities test scores bad, formulate plan, spend lots of money, scores still bad, so rinse and repeat.

    I think they will have the same uphill battle. First, I just don’t think the majority of Latinos care. It’s probably much more important to them whats going on back home in Mexico or Puerto Rico than in Israel. Protestant Christian Evangelicals with there focus on the end times, was naturally ripe for Christian Zionism. I don’t see that focus in Latino Catholicism, how important is it for the landscaping Mexican that Jewish Temple get’s rebuilt? And speaking of Mexican’s, how many in the Southwest feel were the occupying power? does that create more affinity to Israelis or Palestinians?

    I understand why there might be concern. AIPAC is a very powerful lobby, strong on both sides of the political aisle, far more powerful than the NRA. That being said will Latino politicians be beholden to AIPAC?

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  39. Reaching out to Latino churches….it’s called judaizing. It’s called Jewish meddling. They did it at Vatican 2. It’s how they neutralize Christian opposition to their eternal scheming,plotting and fixing.

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  40. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Cortes
    Yes, it’s the soft power of the Alliance that gets you in.

    https://youtu.be/BFv83rX-wlI

    Had the Dems had any brains they’d have sent The Rod to whoever she went to for plastic surgery.
    She’s had some of the best work I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen it at arm’s length (fairly) recently.

    She does, however have serious peachfuzz. This can be an asset to older women since it photographs well.

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  41. Israel, the meddler of all meddlers, wrote the book on meddling.

    Won’t hear that from our hero Mueller. Or Trump, or Sessions, or the MSM……..

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  42. @Tyrion 2
    This isn't foreign meddling. This is the type of PR exercise that is part of the standard consular role. Even the rather hopeful optimistic framing is boilerplate.

    See the Alliance Française for a much more sophisticated version of this type of outreach.

    It is a bit embarrassing that you've clearly designated this very normal activity as 'foreign meddling' for no other reason than Israel is doing it.

    Promoting the ‘political leadership’ of a specific ethnic group within a country is meddling in that country’s politics.

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    Goodness, the Israeli Consul speaks in empty bureaucratese and you take each word literally...
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  43. BTW Debbie made the New York Times in a big way today:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/23/fashion/weddings/debbie-harry-sings-at-wedding-of-godson.html

    And a Jewish wedding at that. I’m verklemt.

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  44. @Steve Sailer
    Or maybe countries meddle all the time in the internal politics of other countries?

    18 iSteve > Or maybe countries meddle all the time in the internal politics of other countries?

    did you complain when Manila had its Ambassador to Washington, do a full-court press to convince the US Congress to NOT expand the pool of countries whose nursing graduates are eligible to sit for the USA nursing exams?

    For that matter, did you complain when the US Department of State ==coerced== the Government of Singapore to make it legal for Singaporean physicians to prescribe chewing-gum-based pharmaceutical-routes-of-delivery ??!? Go read the Singapore-USA Free Trade Treaty, my friend.

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  45. > the Yesha Council – the umbrella organization representing municipal councils in Judea and Samaria

    Judea and Samaria are technically two different (for lack of a more exact analogy) “counties”. In some things, the cooperation between them is incomplete. For example, Judea has its OWN “national guard” to patrol farm fences to stop livestock rustling. And Samaria (which is rather larger) has its OWN foreign-facing hasbara-cum-schneur “mossad”, which distributes contributions ONLY to Samarian municipalities. E.G., it heavily promotes Samaria-grown wines, but not Judean ones.

    Yesha = Judea

    Shomron = Samaria

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  46. @Charles Pewitt
    https://twitter.com/FinancialTimes/status/967036427111489536

    I know you are joking, right? haha? Chinese own Waldorf.

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  47. @Charles Pewitt
    Chinese Communist Party gets prime real estate close to southern portion of Central Park in Manhattan. Not as close as the other famous hotel right at Central Park.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/966865455301431296

    the Chinese deal with the Waldorf goes back several years – methinks Obama and the NYT does not want this news to be mainstream. Shit, the Chinese owned Waldorf, like 6 years ago. It was very creepy that the one hotel, that belongs to America, is owned by China.

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    It was very creepy that the one hotel, that belongs to America, is owned by China.
     
    Another reason to move the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony to where it really belongs, the Hall itself in Cleveland.

    You'd think rockers, of all people, would see the inappropriateness of holding it at the Waldorf. Wrong city, wrong venue, wrong class signal.
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  48. @M_Young
    Promoting the 'political leadership' of a specific ethnic group within a country is meddling in that country's politics.

    Goodness, the Israeli Consul speaks in empty bureaucratese and you take each word literally…

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    You are suggesting he didn't mean what he said, which is pretty laughable.

    Of course, he meant everything he said, and you are simply a desperate liar.
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  49. @Lagertha
    the Chinese deal with the Waldorf goes back several years - methinks Obama and the NYT does not want this news to be mainstream. Shit, the Chinese owned Waldorf, like 6 years ago. It was very creepy that the one hotel, that belongs to America, is owned by China.

    It was very creepy that the one hotel, that belongs to America, is owned by China.

    Another reason to move the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony to where it really belongs, the Hall itself in Cleveland.

    You’d think rockers, of all people, would see the inappropriateness of holding it at the Waldorf. Wrong city, wrong venue, wrong class signal.

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  50. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    Just between us friends, is more than $5 billion. Special appropriations plus Israel's share of our $60 billion Black Budget. And keeping the Holy Land and Israel's 200 nukes and world leading drone technology under American control is worth every penny.

    Just between us friends, is more than $5 billion. Special appropriations plus Israel’s share of our $60 billion Black Budget. And keeping the Holy Land and Israel’s 200 nukes and world leading drone technology under American control is worth every penny.

    In other words, Israel is using the products of stolen American technology to charge America protection money for the same. Nice racket if you can get it.

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  51. theorom: in making sip-sip to Latinos, Dani Dayan isn’t playing American politics.

    he’s playing Israeli politics. People who live in Y’osh don’t estimate that USA of 2018 will be able to out-maneuver a (say for example) Putin

    he’s not a career foreign service officer. Never tried to be.

    Netanyahu didn’t try to park Dayan in Brazil to do Dayan a favor.

    Netanyahu was trying to get a nascent rival AWAY from being able to get quotations in the Hebrew press.

    Netanyahu pretty much succeeded. Dayan will now be busy taking care of Israelis-in-trouble in New York. That’s what Consulates do, people. A Consulate is NOT a Chancery.

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  52. @International Jew
    Not to meddle, but I see unz.com still hasn't mastered the https thing. Ron, if you're reading this, look into letsencrypt.org. If you're running Linux on your server, letsencrypt will not only supply you with a valid certificate, but it'll also automate the error-prone (as you've learned) process of forming a correct certificate signing request, installing the signed certificate, and configuring your web server to use that certificate. Just sayin', it might work out better for you than what you're doing now with bigdaddy.com.

    Not to meddle, but I see unz.com still hasn’t mastered the https thing. Ron, if you’re reading this, look into letsencrypt.org. If you’re running Linux on your server, letsencrypt will not only supply you with a valid certificate, but it’ll also automate the error-prone (as you’ve learned) process of forming a correct certificate signing request, installing the signed certificate, and configuring your web server to use that certificate. Just sayin’, it might work out better for you than what you’re doing now with bigdaddy.com.

    Thanks for pointing this out. I can’t imagine any reason that unz.com shouldn’t have https:// in place. The writers and commenters should certainly appreciate it.

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  53. Hey, don’t blame us (Israel) if you (USA) can’t get your sh*t together.

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    Lol, what a silly comment.

    "Hey, don't blame me (the mugger) if you (the victim) were unable to defend yourself."

    You hasbara trolls are getting dumber by the day. At least offer a challenge if you're going to troll us incessantly.

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  54. @Tyrion 2
    Goodness, the Israeli Consul speaks in empty bureaucratese and you take each word literally...

    You are suggesting he didn’t mean what he said, which is pretty laughable.

    Of course, he meant everything he said, and you are simply a desperate liar.

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  55. @Israeli
    Hey, don't blame us (Israel) if you (USA) can't get your sh*t together.

    Lol, what a silly comment.

    “Hey, don’t blame me (the mugger) if you (the victim) were unable to defend yourself.”

    You hasbara trolls are getting dumber by the day. At least offer a challenge if you’re going to troll us incessantly.

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  56. ,

    No, actually. Israel’s not the mugger here. Cultivating ties with a rising force is not meddling. It’s not Israel that is causing or helping or even allowing this force to rise; it’s your fellow citizens who are. You may have legitimate beef with Israel on other issues, but not on this one. Blurring distinctions is not the sign of intelligence.

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    Lol, yeah, cos the Jewish American and the Jewish Israeli perspectives on this are just oh so different.

    I'm glad you think people are this gullible. It really helps to make the case against you.

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  57. @Lot
    "how do latin american countries feel about Israel"

    White conservatives in Latin America love Israel, elite leftists hate it, the prole migrants we generally get as immigrants would have trouble with the question: "Which is the land of the Jews: Ireland, Israel, or Italy?"

    Brazilian Evangelicals are very pro-Israel. Evangelicalism is the fastest growing religion in Brazil.

    But not many immigrants in The U.S consist of Brazilian Evangelicals.

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  58. The Israeli’s might have their work cut out for them. I have Hispanic in-laws and I do not see or hear that Israel/Jews get such high marks. Let’s also consider La Voz de Aztlan–not exactly pro-Jewish. The honeyed-over sweet interest in the rising Hispanic influence and vote in the U.S. may just be hard-nosed realism. (Given, of course, the basic premise that financial sustenance and overall support must come from the U.S. Congress.)

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  59. @Israeli
    @silviosilver,

    No, actually. Israel's not the mugger here. Cultivating ties with a rising force is not meddling. It's not Israel that is causing or helping or even allowing this force to rise; it's your fellow citizens who are. You may have legitimate beef with Israel on other issues, but not on this one. Blurring distinctions is not the sign of intelligence.

    Lol, yeah, cos the Jewish American and the Jewish Israeli perspectives on this are just oh so different.

    I’m glad you think people are this gullible. It really helps to make the case against you.

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