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In response to my Taki’s Magazine column about campus BDS politics with its headline derived from the old Sarah Silverman joke, “Are Jews Losing Control of the Media?,” commenter ABN writes:

I can only hope that portends a rift between Jews and the Victimhood Coalition among young people. The Jews are in a bind with respect to the more vibrantly Diverse population. Jews can’t be normal white people, because that’s anathema to Diversity. On the other hand, they can’t be exceptional white people, because that’s ethnocentric and racist and all that. And, of course, they can’t be oppressed nonwhite people because not even the Megaphone can obscure the fact that they’re the most privileged white ethnic group in modern America.

Is there much evidence that the last is too implausible for moderns? “Protective stupidity” is a pretty common tendency.

The sensible response would be for Jews to defect from the Victimhood Coalition, which would be a decisive coup in our favor. The Victimhood Coalition will, like Aesop’s scorpion, have stung its historic Jewish benefactors, to its own detriment.

To this end, the fact that Israeli nationalism is ever more closely associated with the American right may be a good thing. It might force the neocon establishment to defend nationalism qua nationalism, in a way that applies not just to Israelis but to ourselves.

Or it could be that conservative white people continue to outsource most of their healthy patriotic instincts to Israel?

The more that the Victimhood Coalition sees Jewish identity as a subspecies of white pride, and the more it sees Israel as the homeland of Haven Monahan’s Jewish cousin Haim Menachem, the better.

(P.S. I would love to see Rahm Emmanuel lose to the Victimhood Coalition. Rahm, of course, will never be on our side, and I wouldn’t want him anyway. But the spectacle of a Jewish arch-Democrat losing to his party’s uppity lumpen-classes might help further alienate some moderate Jews from the left.)

 
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  1. “I can only hope that portends a rift between Jews and the Victimhood Coalition among young people. ”

    Dream on.

  2. Oh, have no fear. You can bet your boots that by the time they get to Haim, plenty of the right sort of victims will definitely speak out by speaking up.

    They usually don’t go very long in waiting to speak up by defending one of their own from what they perceive as the big bad WASP power structure. The problem they will face, is how to spin this into a WASP scapegoat when in fact it could be another victim from their coalition, and one of a decidedly non-WASPish hue that can lay strong claim to replacing Jews at the top of the victim leading totempole?

  3. I have to agree, lets not count the megaphone down and out just yet.

  4. It might force the neocon establishment to defend nationalism qua nationalism, in a way that applies not just to Israelis but to ourselves.

    The neocon establishment, in as much as it is Jewish, is a severe minority among American Jews. Even if they join our camp, it’s not going to be the miracle worker for our cause.

  5. Being anti-Israel is the only partially socially acceptable way to oppose Jews, so at least some people do it for just that reason.

    Still, the only sane resolution to the situation is one state. The Jews on the West Bank aren’t going anywhere; the territory is in all but name in the state of Israel. So that fact has to be formally recognized.

    • Replies: @Karl
    >>> The Jews on the West Bank aren’t going anywhere; the territory is in all but name in the state of Israel. So that fact has to be formally recognized.

    Not really. Where ==are=== all these Israeli farmers who refused to participate in re-labeling the Gulf-directed boxes of bananas as "Product of Palestine" ?

    Can anyone show me a department store in Ariel which doesn't have bi-lingual (Hebrew & Arabic) signs ?

    If Qatari merchants can bow to the ultimate indignity of pocketing money made by selling re-labeled Hebrew bananas to Saudi supermarkets, I guess we also can also swallow our patriotic pride and make it logistically easy for Kuwaiti matrons to get from, and back to, their hotel room in Amman - with unmarked, but heavily laden - shopping bags.
  6. Rahm might lose and also Netanyahoo might lose.

    Still the US congress will remain occupied territory. The new generation? Sen Tom Cotton is the biggest bootlicker of them all.

    Conservatives: The meaning of life is Israel worship.

    Liberals: The meaning of life is NAM worship.

    Good luck, America!

    • Replies: @Realist
    "The new generation? Sen Tom Cotton is the biggest bootlicker of them all."
    Ted Cruz will give him a run for the money....literally.

    ‘If you will not stand with Israel and the Jews, then I will not stand with you.’ – Ted Cruz.
  7. A few questions:

    Is the incoherence of the comment by ABN an instance of “wrecking”? It seems so.

    Could the push/pull courtship of the Jews adduced by this and recent previous essays by you, Steve Sailer (not to be confounded with you, Andrew Marvell), possibly have any positive outcome?

    It’s hard to know what that would look like. Jews realizing they’d been wrong all along? recognizing that their ethno-tribal instincts that had seemed so successfully self-preservatory for so long were in fact terribly destructive of the one nation in human history which had (inanely) welcomed and accepted them? perhaps moving beyond a general apology for the societal-fabric-rending nature of their recent decades-worth of group endeavor to a more specific apology for their insistence on specific falsifications of their and our history, faux memorials to which are under continuous construction?

    That all seems unlikely.

    Might it not be more realistic to consider whether the debacle is not in fact what is intended? The dissatisfaction, real or fabricated, of a few can have no arguable standing, one would think, beside the genuine satisfaction that the chosen must have at seeing a hated culture, ours, in irreparable ruin. As a great man once said, “As a lone ant, from a broken anthill, from the wreckage of Europe: ego scriptor…”

  8. Protective stupidity? As in pretending Whites and jews don’t need separate countries?

  9. I follow a smart, cynical, fast-on-his-feet California Jewish finance guy on Twitter. He only occasionally talks politics but when the UCLA thing happened he suddenly lost 50 IQ points, saying “I could see a Jewish student getting baited in a flyover city but I can’t believe this is happening in LA!”

    I’d like to think that people like that are teachable but what bizarre and ignorant paranoia from a guy who’s on point 99% of the time.

  10. More Jewish baby boomers need to pass on before this happens. Jews who came of age in the sixties and early seventies are more likely to suffer from the constitutional aversion to Haven Monahan.

    Younger Jews, myself included, often discovered in college that they had zero Victim Points and were viewed by the Vibrant as Haven’s rich cousin. And Haven’s dorm room was a much more natural place to hang out than DeShawn’s. The rate at which the politics of American Jews changes will to some extent be limited by the rate at which Jewish demography changes.

  11. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Hollande threw the Jews under the bus in France to appease Muzzies, Sweden isn’t much better. Germany and Britain, it’s just a matter of a few years before their Jews get the bus treatment as their Muslim population swells.

    Here’s the thing, the political class knows the Jews are on their way out and the Muzzies are the next great thing. So do you either build your party around a group that’s quite small, gutless and rich or a growing, violent and powerful demographic who basically see Jews as bullet pinatas.

    But the Jews aren’t going to be giving up their liberal and anti-goy ways anytime soon. They didn’t in France, Sweden and certainly won’t even as they become targets for beatings and killings in London and Berlin. They got a mad on towards the West, Whites and it won’t stop.

    But Islam won’t stop with Europe. The U.S. is already infected with Islam in both parties starting at the top with the Bushes, Clintons and Obama. The tentacles of the MB reach into both parties and into the government security apparatus as well. It’s not real bad yet, but give them another 4 to 6 years. Shariah compliant will a word a lot of people will be getting to know.

    • Replies: @Pshr
    "The U.S. is already infected with Islam in both parties starting at the top with the Bushes, Clintons and Obama"

    Are you really that stupid, or is it just blind hatred which is making you spew such nonsense?

    Anyway, may you stew in your hatred, while your brain rots away, you vile thing.
  12. Protective stupidity is another name for Komment Kontrol.

  13. BTW Steve, I must applaud this line in your article:

    There are several ways for American Jews to respond to this trend emerging out of California of the next generation of immigrant politicians viewing Jews as The Privileged.

    I don’t know if you intended to refer to American-born Asian/Middle-Eastern/Hispanic commie brats as “immigrants,” but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you did. It’s a microaggression I strongly approve of.

    Those who don’t inherit their nationality by blood and soil ought to earn it through their allegiance. As far as I’m concerned, an American-born Cultural Marxist from an immigrant minority background is a foreigner, and a hostile one at that. Citizenism is not a suicide pact, and I refuse to regard as Americans these whining scions of a hostile occupation.

  14. 20 to 30% of Jews already don’t vote Democrat but the problem maybe that liberal Jews have created a Frankenstein monster on the left they can no longer control and Republicans are to spineless to resist. Afterall 2% of the voting population is not much of a ‘prize’ and Republican strategists seem wedded to the dream of somehow being able to peel off 20 or 30% of the black vote which would cause a political earthquake… if it ever happened. Thus, instead of the perennial candidacy of Harold Stassen, we have the perennial black Republican candidate for president and black Republicans ( often RINOs like Colin Powell) being given prominent posts in any Republican Administration out of all proportion to their numbers. The problem with this dream is that the money is running out and the endless stream of public funding that has sustained the artificial ‘black middle class’ is drying up. Both parties are going to have hell to pay as blacks stipends and sinecures both dry up and have to be reallocated to the Hispanic population in proportion to their growing voting power.

    It is here that the GOP has the better chance of making inroads though the thorny issue of illegal immigration may forever make it almost as illusory as winning any significant share of the black vote. The easiest tactic might be just to set blacks and Hispanics at each other’s throats and pick up the residue. Demand proportional hiring in Democratic run urban fiefdoms to include Hispanics e.g. or face cut offs in Federal funding.

    Sailer’s suggestion to make the Democrats choose between black and brown and identify them as the party of the blacks might be the only way the GOP can attract enough Hispanic, Jewish and Asian voters to form a permanent majority in the coming decades.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    The GOP is wedded to the "Singer Strategy". Stick a gun to the head of the base, and pander to enough center-left whites, Asians and Latins.

    If the GOP held all the reins of power, we would not get "amnesty" in the literal sense, we would get "helots" or a guest worker program that never enabled citizenship. Of course the Democrats would forever have an issue with this, and that is the gun held to the base's head.
    , @MarkinLA
    Average blacks do not support amnesty and are resentful of illegals claiming that amnesty is a civil right. The best strategy is to support strong border control as a way to get blacks jobs and higher pay. Oh wait, we are talking about the Republican party, sorry.
  15. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    What whites should do is think in terms of ‘we are all Palestinians’.

    It’s wrong to frame this is terms of nationalism vs victimhood.

    All nationalisms have a victim narrative, and all victimhoods have a nationalist element.

    So, why not defend white nationalism along with all the non-white nationalisms? Let each non-white group watch out for its nationalism/victimhood, and let whites do the same.

    Now, which nationalism/victimhood should whites side with?

    Jewish or Palestinian?

    I say Palestinian. Jews have played a two-faced game for too long and have done too much damage. Just look what they did to Russia despite Putin’s generosity to Jews.

    Enough already.

    Whites should empathize with Palestinian nationalism since whites and Palestinians have a common enemy.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    Rashid Khalidi still hates you
    , @Hal
    Steve wrote:

    Or it could be that conservative white people continue to outsource most of their healthy patriotic instincts to Israel?
     
    What we outsource to Israel is not healthy. The current government fanaticism with spying on everyone and anything is rooted in Zionist paranoia. The loss of freedoms associated with the war on terror has turned the US into one of the biggest terror inducing nations. "Shock and awe" is just another word for terrorizing people for political purposes.

    Israel is the most terrorist nation on the planet.

    So, why not defend white nationalism along with all the non-white nationalisms? Let each non-white group watch out for its nationalism/victimhood, and let whites do the same.

    Now, which nationalism/victimhood should whites side with?

    Jewish or Palestinian?

    I say Palestinian.
     
    Let's not choose sides, but rather return to our roots. Read our own Declaration of Independence, read our own Constitution. Compare Israel's behavior to those which prompted these documents. Conclude that Palestinian grievances are exactly those which led to our founding. Conclude that Israel, Zionists, and neo-cons are the enemies of our country and freedom.

    Palestine has gained observer status in the UN. Palestine has joined the International Criminal Court. Palestine has prepared a brief on the most recent war crimes committed by Israel in Gaza. Israel cries like a little baby and says, "Oh, this stands in the way of peace."

    Israel commits war crimes daily through the theft of Palestinian lands.
  16. @unit472
    20 to 30% of Jews already don't vote Democrat but the problem maybe that liberal Jews have created a Frankenstein monster on the left they can no longer control and Republicans are to spineless to resist. Afterall 2% of the voting population is not much of a 'prize' and Republican strategists seem wedded to the dream of somehow being able to peel off 20 or 30% of the black vote which would cause a political earthquake... if it ever happened. Thus, instead of the perennial candidacy of Harold Stassen, we have the perennial black Republican candidate for president and black Republicans ( often RINOs like Colin Powell) being given prominent posts in any Republican Administration out of all proportion to their numbers. The problem with this dream is that the money is running out and the endless stream of public funding that has sustained the artificial 'black middle class' is drying up. Both parties are going to have hell to pay as blacks stipends and sinecures both dry up and have to be reallocated to the Hispanic population in proportion to their growing voting power.

    It is here that the GOP has the better chance of making inroads though the thorny issue of illegal immigration may forever make it almost as illusory as winning any significant share of the black vote. The easiest tactic might be just to set blacks and Hispanics at each other's throats and pick up the residue. Demand proportional hiring in Democratic run urban fiefdoms to include Hispanics e.g. or face cut offs in Federal funding.

    Sailer's suggestion to make the Democrats choose between black and brown and identify them as the party of the blacks might be the only way the GOP can attract enough Hispanic, Jewish and Asian voters to form a permanent majority in the coming decades.

    The GOP is wedded to the “Singer Strategy”. Stick a gun to the head of the base, and pander to enough center-left whites, Asians and Latins.

    If the GOP held all the reins of power, we would not get “amnesty” in the literal sense, we would get “helots” or a guest worker program that never enabled citizenship. Of course the Democrats would forever have an issue with this, and that is the gun held to the base’s head.

  17. @Anon
    What whites should do is think in terms of 'we are all Palestinians'.

    It's wrong to frame this is terms of nationalism vs victimhood.

    All nationalisms have a victim narrative, and all victimhoods have a nationalist element.

    So, why not defend white nationalism along with all the non-white nationalisms? Let each non-white group watch out for its nationalism/victimhood, and let whites do the same.

    Now, which nationalism/victimhood should whites side with?

    Jewish or Palestinian?

    I say Palestinian. Jews have played a two-faced game for too long and have done too much damage. Just look what they did to Russia despite Putin's generosity to Jews.

    Enough already.

    Whites should empathize with Palestinian nationalism since whites and Palestinians have a common enemy.

    Rashid Khalidi still hates you

    • Replies: @Anon
    "Rashid Khalidi still hates you"

    Rash doesn't have to like whites, and whites don't have to like Rash.

    All we have to recognize is that his nationalism and white nationalism have both been harmed by Jewish power.

    Furthermore, while Palestinians have symbolic power, they have no real power. Not in the media, government, Hollywood, Las Vegas, Silicon Valley, and etc. So, there isn't much they can do to harm whites.

    In contrast, Jews wield immense power. Obama, Holder, Sotomayor, Kagan, Wasserman, Pritzker, Soros, Barney Frank, etc are all various faces of Jewish power.

  18. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I really don’t know about this one.
    Once gentile white men – the real target of the ‘victim hood coalition’, white women are a major part of that coalition, have been effectively neutralised, then what do you have left? Mostly a whole gaggle of low IQ groups who would never ever be able to organise an effective political counter attack to get over their serf-status – has any such movement gained traction in Brazil or Mexico, where the elites are largely of semitic origin?, and the broad, no noun intended, gaggle of white women, who might shout and whine a lot, but who will never but never organise a hard line political movement with the uncompromising toughness needed to overturn things. So on balance, my take is that such an outcome, which seems well high inevitable now, will in fact be a dream scenario for American Jews.
    What of white men? You might ask. Well, in these end of times, white gentile men have more or less lost their natural self-confindence in the natural role as the leaders and not the followers. Century’s worth of niggling underhand attacks, water eroding granite, culminating in Kennedy/Johnson. The loss of confidence is equivalent to a collective nervous breakdown and the Nietzschean definition of collective societal madness. Something tells me that this sickness is chronic and terminal.

    • Replies: @Wally
    "What of white men? You might ask. Well, in these end of times, white gentile men have more or less lost their natural self-confindence in the natural role as the leaders and not the followers. Century’s worth of niggling underhand attacks, water eroding granite, culminating in Kennedy/Johnson. The loss of confidence is equivalent to a collective nervous breakdown and the Nietzschean definition of collective societal madness. Something tells me that this sickness is chronic and terminal."

    Then who will pay the bills?
  19. Emanuel [sic] has been no Giuliani or even a Bloomberg, but replacing him with a Dinkins (any minority mayor) = not helping.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    I dunno. Putting a vato nicknamed Chuey in charge of Chicago seems too delicious to pass up!

    He even has the Frito Bandito mustache!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_mayoral_election,_2015#/media/File:Jesus_%27Chuy%27_Garcia.jpg

  20. I think the century long mating dance between American Jewry and WASP America may finally be coming to its climax. They were destined to be together and it’s strange how long it’s taken for American Jews to admit it and fall into the arms of their WASP neighbours. Both groups “have issues” with bad old Europe, both think they’re exceptional, both think all other nations, gods and peoples are false, both love business, both know the saying that “behind every great fortune lies a great crime” could be applied to parts of their own family tree, both prefer the Old Testament over the New but have come to see Jesus as a pretty good guy who at least meant well, et cetera and so on …

    The funny thing is that European right-wingers of the Catholic and Orthodox variety already speak of “Jews, Protestants and Freemasons” in the same breath and would wonder what all the fuss has been about. They’d have no time for stories about country club Cossacks keeping Woody Allen out of the space program, or whatever the current story is. I’d have to agree with them. I too think American Jews and WASPs were made for one another and I’m not sure I mean that in an entirely flattering way. It’s true nevertheless.

    • Replies: @advancedatheist
    Bertrand Russell noticed the psychological similarity of Jewish and Protestant freethinkers in one of his essays, as I recall.
  21. I’d just add another observation to my earlier post about the the long courtship between the WASPs and Jews of America: it’s that there’s no love as tempting as forbidden love. The best way to drive liberal Democratic, college town, blue state WASPs and Jews into each other’s arms is to tell them it makes Jean-Marie Le Pen types go ape. Tell them it’s a great way to stick it to Old Europe. Both Yankees and Jews love that sort of thing.

    • Replies: @anowow
    Ok, what you've said borders on the fetishistic.

    And, I've had conversations with Ashkenazi-Americans who feel a greater connection to Italians than to Northern Europeans. It makes sense when you think of how Mediterranean Jews are in their habitus and mannerisms, but whatever floats YOUR fantasy boat.

    What is with Christians getting weird when they spend too much time with the Old Testament? They become obsessed with Hebrews. Many people can't study another people's mythology and history for too long without a) developing an inferiority complex and wishing you were one or b) developing ancestor-envy, the latter leading to Replacement Theology. Something like this happened in Colonized peoples in the 19th and 20th-century vis-a-vis Europeans. It's not healthy. I think many of us on the alt right don't wish for anti-Semitism from our leaders or countrymen so much as apathy concerning the Semites.

    This marriage of peoples you speak of might work out for WASP elites, but for the bulk of the peasants, not so much. And friend, not all Protestants are so great at business. Take a tour of our great land and see how many aren't benefiting from the current, extreme capitalist system.

    It's been this way in the US and the UK. Anglo-Saxon political and economic elites, perhaps equaled by Tsarist Russian or Polish nobles, are singular in Modern Europe for the level of contempt they have had for their co-ethnics that they rule. Take away the self-serving jingoism and just focus on deeds. There seems to be a correllation of cosmopolitanism and liberalism amongst elites and their lack of noblesse oblige towards their own people.

    And nothing short of something like complete economic or political collapse and civil wars are gonna make the majority of Hebrews view Protestant masses, not necessarily their elites, with anything other than mild contempt phasing into active hostility. (Perhaps the masses deserve a degree of mild contempt.) And nothing is gonna break the fetishistic Philosemitism of said masses.

    , @Sunbeam
    "The best way to drive liberal Democratic, college town, blue state WASPs and Jews into each other’s arms is to tell them it makes Jean-Marie Le Pen types go ape. Tell them it’s a great way to stick it to Old Europe. Both Yankees and Jews love that sort of thing."

    Ooookay. Sticking it to Old Europe. Gotcha.

    But see you are going to have to explain this one. Because not only is this not a thing, I'm not sure it has ever been a thing.
  22. Isn’t there something like this going on in the Minneapolis area: a Somalian immigrant challenging a Brooklyn-born Jewish women for a poltical office? Oh, brave new world!

  23. Haim Menachem, jewish frat boy at Univ of Michigan and his brothers at Sigma Alpha Mu, destroyed a ski resort recently in upstate MI to the tune of $400k.

    http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/03/prosecutor_close_to_deciding_w.html

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Yes, those violent, destructive Jews, always vandalizing stuff. So like them, isn't it?

    The "$400K" is totally bogus. Someone (who ISN'T Jewish) smells money. Apparently the physical damages were something like $50K according to the original press accounts (bad enough) which got inflated to $250K and then they decide to tack on $200K for "damage to their reputation" just for good measure.
  24. @p s c
    Haim Menachem, jewish frat boy at Univ of Michigan and his brothers at Sigma Alpha Mu, destroyed a ski resort recently in upstate MI to the tune of $400k.

    http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/03/prosecutor_close_to_deciding_w.html

    Yes, those violent, destructive Jews, always vandalizing stuff. So like them, isn’t it?

    The “$400K” is totally bogus. Someone (who ISN’T Jewish) smells money. Apparently the physical damages were something like $50K according to the original press accounts (bad enough) which got inflated to $250K and then they decide to tack on $200K for “damage to their reputation” just for good measure.

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    The “$400K” is totally bogus. Someone (who ISN’T Jewish) smells money. Apparently the physical damages were something like $50K according to the original press accounts (bad enough) which got inflated to $250K and then they decide to tack on $200K for “damage to their reputation” just for good measure.
     
    Those pics look like well more than $50k; and the $200K is lost revenue, not damage to reputation.

    Somebody watched Animal House one too many times and got confused about the distinction between one's own property and someone else's.
  25. @wonderbread
    Emanuel [sic] has been no Giuliani or even a Bloomberg, but replacing him with a Dinkins (any minority mayor) = not helping.

    I dunno. Putting a vato nicknamed Chuey in charge of Chicago seems too delicious to pass up!

    He even has the Frito Bandito mustache!

  26. Jews don’t represent a sizeable voting group compared to the other groups, that latest amnesty in America alone created more citizens than there are jews. When most people say getting jews “on their side”, I assume its getting all their money to help, however when somebody who is not pro jew mentions the jewish control of politicians via money, they are attacked endlessly. So which is it, jews control the politicians or not ?

    Also, whites making alliances with a people that have worked against whites like no other is both insulting and a stupid thing to do, if whites truly need jews to save them, then its already over – we are going extinct.

  27. “Protective stupidity”

    A more precise term would be “protective ignorance,” as the usual perps are far from stupid.

    Closely related to “plausible deniability”

  28. @Jack D
    Yes, those violent, destructive Jews, always vandalizing stuff. So like them, isn't it?

    The "$400K" is totally bogus. Someone (who ISN'T Jewish) smells money. Apparently the physical damages were something like $50K according to the original press accounts (bad enough) which got inflated to $250K and then they decide to tack on $200K for "damage to their reputation" just for good measure.

    The “$400K” is totally bogus. Someone (who ISN’T Jewish) smells money. Apparently the physical damages were something like $50K according to the original press accounts (bad enough) which got inflated to $250K and then they decide to tack on $200K for “damage to their reputation” just for good measure.

    Those pics look like well more than $50k; and the $200K is lost revenue, not damage to reputation.

    Somebody watched Animal House one too many times and got confused about the distinction between one’s own property and someone else’s.

  29. John Derbyshire had a great comment about the role Jews would necessarily play in any race realism awakening:

    “I thus have some hopes for the new generation of Jews. For years I have been patiently explaining to race-realist friends who grumble about Jewish enforcers of orthodoxy that no social movement in the West will get anywhere unless it can recruit some smart Jews. Jews are the word people par excellence. To publicize, convert, propagandize, and litigate, you need Jews.”

    http://takimag.com/article/baby_steps_toward_race_realism_john_derbyshire/print#ixzz3UGkozoIn

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    John Derbyshire had a great comment about the role Jews would necessarily play in any race realism awakening:

    “no social movement in the West will get anywhere unless it can recruit some smart Jews. Jews are the word people par excellence. To publicize, convert, propagandize, and litigate, you need Jews.”


    What a pathetic excuse for a man is this Derbyshire.
  30. @Cagey Beast
    I'd just add another observation to my earlier post about the the long courtship between the WASPs and Jews of America: it's that there's no love as tempting as forbidden love. The best way to drive liberal Democratic, college town, blue state WASPs and Jews into each other's arms is to tell them it makes Jean-Marie Le Pen types go ape. Tell them it's a great way to stick it to Old Europe. Both Yankees and Jews love that sort of thing.

    Ok, what you’ve said borders on the fetishistic.

    And, I’ve had conversations with Ashkenazi-Americans who feel a greater connection to Italians than to Northern Europeans. It makes sense when you think of how Mediterranean Jews are in their habitus and mannerisms, but whatever floats YOUR fantasy boat.

    What is with Christians getting weird when they spend too much time with the Old Testament? They become obsessed with Hebrews. Many people can’t study another people’s mythology and history for too long without a) developing an inferiority complex and wishing you were one or b) developing ancestor-envy, the latter leading to Replacement Theology. Something like this happened in Colonized peoples in the 19th and 20th-century vis-a-vis Europeans. It’s not healthy. I think many of us on the alt right don’t wish for anti-Semitism from our leaders or countrymen so much as apathy concerning the Semites.

    This marriage of peoples you speak of might work out for WASP elites, but for the bulk of the peasants, not so much. And friend, not all Protestants are so great at business. Take a tour of our great land and see how many aren’t benefiting from the current, extreme capitalist system.

    It’s been this way in the US and the UK. Anglo-Saxon political and economic elites, perhaps equaled by Tsarist Russian or Polish nobles, are singular in Modern Europe for the level of contempt they have had for their co-ethnics that they rule. Take away the self-serving jingoism and just focus on deeds. There seems to be a correllation of cosmopolitanism and liberalism amongst elites and their lack of noblesse oblige towards their own people.

    And nothing short of something like complete economic or political collapse and civil wars are gonna make the majority of Hebrews view Protestant masses, not necessarily their elites, with anything other than mild contempt phasing into active hostility. (Perhaps the masses deserve a degree of mild contempt.) And nothing is gonna break the fetishistic Philosemitism of said masses.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    I'm guessing that the marriage that Cagey is referring to is between Protestant and Jewish elites. In many cases, it is a literal marriage. One of FDR's great grandsons is a Reform rabbi. But in any elite institution in America today (Ivy Universities, big law firms, teaching hospitals, Wall St., boards of trustees of universities, museums and charities, etc.) WASPs and Jews are who you are going to find, side by side, with some Asians and a quota of affirmative action blacks and Hispanics sprinkled in. Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals - they learned this from WASP social reformers. The Yiddish radio station in NY was WEVD, named in honor of Eugene V. Debs of Indiana, the leader of the American Socialist Party.

    Now for a long time, elite WASPs were as cool to Jews as they were to other ethnics - a few were OK (or not - when Jewish refugees were trying to get out of Nazi Germany, a Canadian government minister was asked how many they should let in and he replied that "none is too many") but not too many (to this day, Derbyshire talks about ethnics as being the "salt" that you put in the soup - a sprinkle seasons it nicely but a lot ruins the taste). Maybe the US was a little better - the formula at Yale Med School in the '30s was 5 Jews, 2 Italians and 0 blacks. BTW, this shows that if Jews were treated as 2nd class citizens, then Italians were 3rd class and blacks were not considered citizens at all. But that seems to be over now. Maybe the fact that the Jewish proletariat of Europe is all dead means that they are not in danger of oversalting the soup anymore and we can turn attention to more abundant threats. Or that people of high intelligence are a natural fit with each other - Charles Murray's "Belmont" is populated by Jews and WASPs living side by side while "Fishtown" is Ferguson - marginal whites forced to coexist with Section 8 blacks and Hispanics.

    , @Cagey Beast
    What is with Christians getting weird when they spend too much time with the Old Testament?

    It's because Christ and the history of his time on earth are supposed to be the central pivot-point of Christendom's story of itself. The New Testament as the central point, the Old Testament at the far end and the centuries of Christian history and teaching down here with us closer to the present day. The histories of the Church Fathers, lives of the saints, holy martyrs, theologians and pious kings of our own act as more than enough of a counterbalance to the Old Testament. The Catholics, Orthodox and Anglicans get this right.
  31. Mike Zwick [AKA "Dahinda"] says:

    Chuy Garcia is riding the wave of the “coalition of the really pissed off” in Chicago. Daley ran the city deep into debt and sold off all kinds of things to the highest bidder, such as the parking meters. Rahm came in on Daley’s coat tails, sort of like how Bilandic came in on Daley’s father’s coat tails in the 70’s, just when all of the problems Daley caused were coming to a head. Rahm still has the vote of some older, and believe it or not, more conservative voters afraid of change. Garcia is really popular among young people in the same way Obama was back when he was a State Senator (this would be the Victimhood set) and people who are sick of business as usual at city hall.

  32. “conservative white people continue to outsource most of their healthy patriotic instincts to Israel?”

    Actually white people who want to indulge patriotism go where it pays a pension and health benefits, the military. police or other government service. Which may be why so many immigrants are needed to keep the US functioning.

    As for the Pro Israel camp it may be fading for internal reasons. The largest growth in numbers of Jews are Orthodox Jews who are not Zionist (see truetorahjews.org). I doubt the newly wealthy Persian or Iranian Jews are on board the bomb Iran express, oddly Iranian Americans are missing from that debate. And finally the group most responsible for the crazy foreign policy of the last 2 decades, Christian Evangelical Dispensational Zionists seem to be disappearing, which is creepy given they believe they will disappear and go to heaven before the apocalypse.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Having trouble parsing your sentence:

    The largest growth in numbers of Jews are Orthodox Jews who are not Zionist ..

    Are you saying all Orthodox Jews are not Zionist? This is not true. There is a small fringe of extreme Orthodox who are anti-Zionist (they say the Jews have to wait for the Messiah to be restored to Israel and can't take matters into their own hands) but most Orthodox have strong connections to Israel, family there, go back and forth, etc. In contrast, the young generation of secular Jews, esp. those not affiliated with synagogues, may feel little connection with Israel and may even identify with the anti-Israel left.
    , @anowow
    "Actually white people who want to indulge patriotism go where it pays a pension and health benefits, the military. police or other government service."


    What's being an attack dog/lackey for NY-DC-London elites, Lindsey Graham, Log Cabin Republicans (btw, is Tom Cotton.....? because that would be hilarious and he gives off that vibe), the Clintons, Alan Dershowitz et al, the editors for most major media outlets, Samantha Powers, Susan Rice and the whole R2P crowd have to do with patriotism? I'm geuinely curious.

    Those sorts in DC view most Americans as chumps and tax serfs, useful only as sources of revenue or canon fodder or pole dancers. Assuming they aren't completely venal, their darlings being mostly in the 3rd world or on their way to the US from the 3rd world.

    I for one can't wait for a Hillary Clinton Presidency.
  33. “Actually white people who want to indulge patriotism go where it pays a pension and health benefits, the military. police or other government service. Which may be why so many immigrants are needed to keep the US functioning.”

    Conversely, some young white men … and some women…might otherwise like to practice a trade that pays a living wage while staying in the US and not facing risk of death. But because of depressed wages, the only way to 1) learn, say, construction trades and 2) earn enough to support themselves and a young family is the military. It is probably no accident that spots for such MOS?NECs had a 12 month (the max) waiting list when I enlisted; I would be very surprised if that wasn’t the case now.

  34. @Cagey Beast
    I'd just add another observation to my earlier post about the the long courtship between the WASPs and Jews of America: it's that there's no love as tempting as forbidden love. The best way to drive liberal Democratic, college town, blue state WASPs and Jews into each other's arms is to tell them it makes Jean-Marie Le Pen types go ape. Tell them it's a great way to stick it to Old Europe. Both Yankees and Jews love that sort of thing.

    “The best way to drive liberal Democratic, college town, blue state WASPs and Jews into each other’s arms is to tell them it makes Jean-Marie Le Pen types go ape. Tell them it’s a great way to stick it to Old Europe. Both Yankees and Jews love that sort of thing.”

    Ooookay. Sticking it to Old Europe. Gotcha.

    But see you are going to have to explain this one. Because not only is this not a thing, I’m not sure it has ever been a thing.

  35. GW says:

    Steve, believe it or not people can be both patriotic to their own country while wanting the best for another. In the Venn diagram of people who are pro-Israel and anti-amnesty there is large overlap. People cheering Netanyahu for his speech defending Israel’s sovereignty are the same ones who supported Bush and the Iraq war because they saw it defending America’s after 9/11 (don’t buy for a second that Americans in ’02-’03 sought war because we wanted to defend Israel’s interests, they sought war because we were pissed at Muslims after 9/11 and wanted to hit back).

  36. @George
    "conservative white people continue to outsource most of their healthy patriotic instincts to Israel?"

    Actually white people who want to indulge patriotism go where it pays a pension and health benefits, the military. police or other government service. Which may be why so many immigrants are needed to keep the US functioning.

    As for the Pro Israel camp it may be fading for internal reasons. The largest growth in numbers of Jews are Orthodox Jews who are not Zionist (see truetorahjews.org). I doubt the newly wealthy Persian or Iranian Jews are on board the bomb Iran express, oddly Iranian Americans are missing from that debate. And finally the group most responsible for the crazy foreign policy of the last 2 decades, Christian Evangelical Dispensational Zionists seem to be disappearing, which is creepy given they believe they will disappear and go to heaven before the apocalypse.

    Having trouble parsing your sentence:

    The largest growth in numbers of Jews are Orthodox Jews who are not Zionist ..

    Are you saying all Orthodox Jews are not Zionist? This is not true. There is a small fringe of extreme Orthodox who are anti-Zionist (they say the Jews have to wait for the Messiah to be restored to Israel and can’t take matters into their own hands) but most Orthodox have strong connections to Israel, family there, go back and forth, etc. In contrast, the young generation of secular Jews, esp. those not affiliated with synagogues, may feel little connection with Israel and may even identify with the anti-Israel left.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    The largest growth in numbers of Jews are Orthodox Jews who are not Zionist ..

    Are you saying all Orthodox Jews are not Zionist?
     
    If he were saying that, he would put a comma before "who".
  37. Losing control of the narrative?

    Here is a flick I just bumped into, “Image”

    http://www.solarmovie.ws/watch-image-2014-online.html

    It’s about a Belgian girl reporter who gets all enamored with an Arab alpha badboy from the hood who offers to show her around so she can see the real deal. It is exactly a piece that is trying to change the narrative. It opens up with news reports and news video as background to the credits, all little snippets like “the robber was dark skinned”, “the immigrant youths threw molotov cocktails”, “more foreigners in jail than natives”. And at the onset of the flick, the arab bad boy challenges the film crew to claim the reason for riots, for immigrant youth anger is “you” (meaning the film crew, the images of immigrants portrayed in media). It’s very edgy, very well done, exactly the gritty, indie movie that SWPLs love, the one nobody else watches so the SWPL can feel smug and above the masses.

    The film is directed by “Adil El Arbi en Bilall Fallah” and one of the reviews by a Belgian SWPL on iMDB named “AnversLawd” says it all and accomplishes its mission:

    “Image” centers around Eva, a young reporter making a documentary on the life of immigrants after riots occurred in a poverty-stricken area in Brussels. She meets Lahbib, a young Arab man who’s notorious but loved by the people in his neighborhood. Although Lahbib’s a tough guy who lives in a rough part of town, the more time they spend together, the more he shows his vulnerable side. This vulnerable side makes you sympathize with Lahbib which seems to be the whole point of the film, to look past first impressions.”

    And that’s the pesky problem with postmodernity, no longer can any elite completely dominate the total narrative. Canon’s best video camera that allows you to stream HD quality images straight to hard disks is only $5000. So now Bilall can go toe to toe with anyone. The reality now is that streaming sites are hungry for content, so much that they are constantly looking to any provider. And now Weinstein Co. produced movies may get into more theaters, but on the streaming sites, they are just one more “cell”; one more poster image; one more offering next to the jumble of offerings out there.

    And all it takes is for SWPL guys like Anvers in Belgium to watch “Image” and get all “weepy feely” altruistic about how some victim group is getting bad press.

    “I got in trouble for saying the word “Chink” on a talk show, a network talk show. It was in the context of a joke. Obviously. That’d be weird. That’d be a really bad career choice if it wasn’t. But, nevertheless, the president of an Asian-American watchdog group out here in Los Angeles, his name is Guy Aoki, and he was up in arms about it and he put my name in the papers calling me a racist, and it hurt. As a Jew—as a member of the Jewish community—I was really concerned that we were losing control of the media. Right? What kind of a world do we live in where a totally cute white girl can’t say “Chink” on network television? It’s like the fifties. It’s scary.”

    Yeah Sarah, scary.

  38. @anowow
    Ok, what you've said borders on the fetishistic.

    And, I've had conversations with Ashkenazi-Americans who feel a greater connection to Italians than to Northern Europeans. It makes sense when you think of how Mediterranean Jews are in their habitus and mannerisms, but whatever floats YOUR fantasy boat.

    What is with Christians getting weird when they spend too much time with the Old Testament? They become obsessed with Hebrews. Many people can't study another people's mythology and history for too long without a) developing an inferiority complex and wishing you were one or b) developing ancestor-envy, the latter leading to Replacement Theology. Something like this happened in Colonized peoples in the 19th and 20th-century vis-a-vis Europeans. It's not healthy. I think many of us on the alt right don't wish for anti-Semitism from our leaders or countrymen so much as apathy concerning the Semites.

    This marriage of peoples you speak of might work out for WASP elites, but for the bulk of the peasants, not so much. And friend, not all Protestants are so great at business. Take a tour of our great land and see how many aren't benefiting from the current, extreme capitalist system.

    It's been this way in the US and the UK. Anglo-Saxon political and economic elites, perhaps equaled by Tsarist Russian or Polish nobles, are singular in Modern Europe for the level of contempt they have had for their co-ethnics that they rule. Take away the self-serving jingoism and just focus on deeds. There seems to be a correllation of cosmopolitanism and liberalism amongst elites and their lack of noblesse oblige towards their own people.

    And nothing short of something like complete economic or political collapse and civil wars are gonna make the majority of Hebrews view Protestant masses, not necessarily their elites, with anything other than mild contempt phasing into active hostility. (Perhaps the masses deserve a degree of mild contempt.) And nothing is gonna break the fetishistic Philosemitism of said masses.

    I’m guessing that the marriage that Cagey is referring to is between Protestant and Jewish elites. In many cases, it is a literal marriage. One of FDR’s great grandsons is a Reform rabbi. But in any elite institution in America today (Ivy Universities, big law firms, teaching hospitals, Wall St., boards of trustees of universities, museums and charities, etc.) WASPs and Jews are who you are going to find, side by side, with some Asians and a quota of affirmative action blacks and Hispanics sprinkled in. Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals – they learned this from WASP social reformers. The Yiddish radio station in NY was WEVD, named in honor of Eugene V. Debs of Indiana, the leader of the American Socialist Party.

    Now for a long time, elite WASPs were as cool to Jews as they were to other ethnics – a few were OK (or not – when Jewish refugees were trying to get out of Nazi Germany, a Canadian government minister was asked how many they should let in and he replied that “none is too many”) but not too many (to this day, Derbyshire talks about ethnics as being the “salt” that you put in the soup – a sprinkle seasons it nicely but a lot ruins the taste). Maybe the US was a little better – the formula at Yale Med School in the ’30s was 5 Jews, 2 Italians and 0 blacks. BTW, this shows that if Jews were treated as 2nd class citizens, then Italians were 3rd class and blacks were not considered citizens at all. But that seems to be over now. Maybe the fact that the Jewish proletariat of Europe is all dead means that they are not in danger of oversalting the soup anymore and we can turn attention to more abundant threats. Or that people of high intelligence are a natural fit with each other – Charles Murray’s “Belmont” is populated by Jews and WASPs living side by side while “Fishtown” is Ferguson – marginal whites forced to coexist with Section 8 blacks and Hispanics.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Yes it's the elite, bourgeois types I have in mind when I talk about WASPs. I know many people use the term more broadly but I don't think of, say, an Air Force officer with a Lutheran upbringing in Wisconsin as a WASP.
    , @peterike

    Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals

     

    Indeed not. They arrived as Communists and Anarchists, in their many thousands.
    , @ben tillman

    Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals – they learned this from WASP social reformers.
     
    Liberals are those who can't take their own side in an argument. Jews never became liberals.
    , @Joe Walker
    Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals – they learned this from WASP social reformers

    Next you will be saying that the English turned Karl Marx into a communist. Jews have generally embraced the left because they have seen that the most effective way to undermine white gentile populations is through left wing policies.
    , @Joe Walker
    Charles Murray’s “Belmont” is populated by Jews and WASPs living side by side while “Fishtown” is Ferguson – marginal whites forced to coexist with Section 8 blacks and Hispanics.

    And one of the reasons why those "marginal whites" are forced to coexist with blacks and Hispanics is because of the political and economic policies supported by the Jews.
  39. @anowow
    Ok, what you've said borders on the fetishistic.

    And, I've had conversations with Ashkenazi-Americans who feel a greater connection to Italians than to Northern Europeans. It makes sense when you think of how Mediterranean Jews are in their habitus and mannerisms, but whatever floats YOUR fantasy boat.

    What is with Christians getting weird when they spend too much time with the Old Testament? They become obsessed with Hebrews. Many people can't study another people's mythology and history for too long without a) developing an inferiority complex and wishing you were one or b) developing ancestor-envy, the latter leading to Replacement Theology. Something like this happened in Colonized peoples in the 19th and 20th-century vis-a-vis Europeans. It's not healthy. I think many of us on the alt right don't wish for anti-Semitism from our leaders or countrymen so much as apathy concerning the Semites.

    This marriage of peoples you speak of might work out for WASP elites, but for the bulk of the peasants, not so much. And friend, not all Protestants are so great at business. Take a tour of our great land and see how many aren't benefiting from the current, extreme capitalist system.

    It's been this way in the US and the UK. Anglo-Saxon political and economic elites, perhaps equaled by Tsarist Russian or Polish nobles, are singular in Modern Europe for the level of contempt they have had for their co-ethnics that they rule. Take away the self-serving jingoism and just focus on deeds. There seems to be a correllation of cosmopolitanism and liberalism amongst elites and their lack of noblesse oblige towards their own people.

    And nothing short of something like complete economic or political collapse and civil wars are gonna make the majority of Hebrews view Protestant masses, not necessarily their elites, with anything other than mild contempt phasing into active hostility. (Perhaps the masses deserve a degree of mild contempt.) And nothing is gonna break the fetishistic Philosemitism of said masses.

    What is with Christians getting weird when they spend too much time with the Old Testament?

    It’s because Christ and the history of his time on earth are supposed to be the central pivot-point of Christendom’s story of itself. The New Testament as the central point, the Old Testament at the far end and the centuries of Christian history and teaching down here with us closer to the present day. The histories of the Church Fathers, lives of the saints, holy martyrs, theologians and pious kings of our own act as more than enough of a counterbalance to the Old Testament. The Catholics, Orthodox and Anglicans get this right.

    • Replies: @cran

    The histories of the Church Fathers, lives of the saints, holy martyrs, theologians and pious kings of our own act as more than enough of a counterbalance to the Old Testament. The Catholics, Orthodox and Anglicans get this right.

     

    ... and conservative Lutherans.
  40. It might force the neocon establishment to defend nationalism qua nationalism, in a way that applies not just to Israelis but to ourselves.

    Don’t count on it. The lesson of the last 35 years of American conservatism is that when you combine neoconservatism and conservatism, the result is neoconservatism. Add in the cheap-labor-through-amnesty business lobby as a useful catalyst to this process.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    "The historical task and political purpose of neo-conservatism is to convert the Republican Party and American conservatism in general, against their prospective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy.” - Irving Kristol
  41. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Honorary Thief
    John Derbyshire had a great comment about the role Jews would necessarily play in any race realism awakening:

    "I thus have some hopes for the new generation of Jews. For years I have been patiently explaining to race-realist friends who grumble about Jewish enforcers of orthodoxy that no social movement in the West will get anywhere unless it can recruit some smart Jews. Jews are the word people par excellence. To publicize, convert, propagandize, and litigate, you need Jews."

    http://takimag.com/article/baby_steps_toward_race_realism_john_derbyshire/print#ixzz3UGkozoIn

    John Derbyshire had a great comment about the role Jews would necessarily play in any race realism awakening:

    “no social movement in the West will get anywhere unless it can recruit some smart Jews. Jews are the word people par excellence. To publicize, convert, propagandize, and litigate, you need Jews.”

    What a pathetic excuse for a man is this Derbyshire.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    He's got a goyishe kop. If he were a Supa-Smooth-Talkin'-Joo(TM), he'd know better than to come right out and scream, "Hebrews, join our cause! We can't litigate without you!"
    , @Harry Baldwin
    What a pathetic excuse for a man is this Derbyshire.

    You presume to discuss who is and isn't a real man? You denigrate him while hiding behind the anonymity of email, while he stands by his principles publicly, without apology, and has paid the paid the price for doing so. By the standards most of us respect, Derbyshire is a very fine man indeed, while you're just another pathetic nonentity.
  42. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Maj. Kong
    Rashid Khalidi still hates you

    “Rashid Khalidi still hates you”

    Rash doesn’t have to like whites, and whites don’t have to like Rash.

    All we have to recognize is that his nationalism and white nationalism have both been harmed by Jewish power.

    Furthermore, while Palestinians have symbolic power, they have no real power. Not in the media, government, Hollywood, Las Vegas, Silicon Valley, and etc. So, there isn’t much they can do to harm whites.

    In contrast, Jews wield immense power. Obama, Holder, Sotomayor, Kagan, Wasserman, Pritzker, Soros, Barney Frank, etc are all various faces of Jewish power.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    With "friends" like Obama, who needs enemies?
  43. OT, a Univision presenter just got fired for saying that Michelle Obama could be a cast member for Planet of the Apes.

    I wonder what else goes on there that we never hear about?

  44. Way OT, but here’s some compelling video of the escape of the guy whose SUV was carjacked by the Marathon Bombers, along with the subsequent 911 call:

    http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2015/03/12/carjacking-victim-details-most-difficult-decision-his-life/DYfDomBB1uH6CTlFEVOC6O/story.html?p1=feature_stack_3_hp#comments

  45. @George
    "conservative white people continue to outsource most of their healthy patriotic instincts to Israel?"

    Actually white people who want to indulge patriotism go where it pays a pension and health benefits, the military. police or other government service. Which may be why so many immigrants are needed to keep the US functioning.

    As for the Pro Israel camp it may be fading for internal reasons. The largest growth in numbers of Jews are Orthodox Jews who are not Zionist (see truetorahjews.org). I doubt the newly wealthy Persian or Iranian Jews are on board the bomb Iran express, oddly Iranian Americans are missing from that debate. And finally the group most responsible for the crazy foreign policy of the last 2 decades, Christian Evangelical Dispensational Zionists seem to be disappearing, which is creepy given they believe they will disappear and go to heaven before the apocalypse.

    “Actually white people who want to indulge patriotism go where it pays a pension and health benefits, the military. police or other government service.”

    What’s being an attack dog/lackey for NY-DC-London elites, Lindsey Graham, Log Cabin Republicans (btw, is Tom Cotton…..? because that would be hilarious and he gives off that vibe), the Clintons, Alan Dershowitz et al, the editors for most major media outlets, Samantha Powers, Susan Rice and the whole R2P crowd have to do with patriotism? I’m geuinely curious.

    Those sorts in DC view most Americans as chumps and tax serfs, useful only as sources of revenue or canon fodder or pole dancers. Assuming they aren’t completely venal, their darlings being mostly in the 3rd world or on their way to the US from the 3rd world.

    I for one can’t wait for a Hillary Clinton Presidency.

  46. advancedatheist [AKA "RedneckCryonicist"] says:
    @Cagey Beast
    I think the century long mating dance between American Jewry and WASP America may finally be coming to its climax. They were destined to be together and it's strange how long it's taken for American Jews to admit it and fall into the arms of their WASP neighbours. Both groups "have issues" with bad old Europe, both think they're exceptional, both think all other nations, gods and peoples are false, both love business, both know the saying that "behind every great fortune lies a great crime" could be applied to parts of their own family tree, both prefer the Old Testament over the New but have come to see Jesus as a pretty good guy who at least meant well, et cetera and so on ...

    The funny thing is that European right-wingers of the Catholic and Orthodox variety already speak of "Jews, Protestants and Freemasons" in the same breath and would wonder what all the fuss has been about. They'd have no time for stories about country club Cossacks keeping Woody Allen out of the space program, or whatever the current story is. I'd have to agree with them. I too think American Jews and WASPs were made for one another and I'm not sure I mean that in an entirely flattering way. It's true nevertheless.

    Bertrand Russell noticed the psychological similarity of Jewish and Protestant freethinkers in one of his essays, as I recall.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    And if there's anyone who'd know what he was talking about on that matter It'd be Bertrand Russell. England is a funny place because there are prominent people who I say can be justly lumped together under the "Jews, Protestants and Freemasons" label and those who can't. The Wedgewood-Benn family is definitely WASPy in that way. I'd even say a case could be made that Julian Huxley was a WASP while his brother Aldous Huxley was not but I think I'm getting a bit too cute. If I go down that path I'll be trying to figure out which of the Mitford Sisters were WASPs and which weren't.
  47. And finally the group most responsible for the crazy foreign policy of the last 2 decades, Christian Evangelical Dispensational Zionists seem to be disappearing, which is creepy given they believe they will disappear and go to heaven before the apocalypse.

    What is their birth rate and what has it been in the past?

  48. I doubt the newly wealthy Persian or Iranian Jews are on board the bomb Iran express,

    Just like all those Iraqi, Yemeni and Moroccan Jews in Israel who love Arabs, right? Do get a clue.

  49. Well there are Jews and there are Jews. My nice Jewish lady dentist could get right on board, but she couldn’t help much. Ok, she probably votes D out of familial tradition, and maybe she switches to R, but that’s one vote in a state that is destined to be D forever and ever.

    On the other hand, there are Jews with gobs of money and influence. You know, the ones who own Hollywood, the Media, the major sports, banking and finance, etc. And these are all utterly wedded to Prog causes and anti-white to the bone, or just plain into debauchery and societal ruin for whatever reason. These are the people we need (and their numerous hench-people who do the groundwork), and precisely the ones we’ll never get.

    The Right could flip 80% of Jews and it would mean nothing. It’s that 20% that make all the difference, and they will keep on wrecking even when the unwashed hordes wash up on their doorstep. You know, they can’t really help it. And no intellectual argument can ever sway then as much as an inch.

    • Replies: @Marty T
    Not true. Bill Kristol, for one, has moved right on amnesty and used his power to help defeat it. There are other Jewish anti-amnesty people out there. Not enough yet, but the times are changing. Increased turd world immigration is not good for Americans, including Jewish Americans.
  50. @Thomas

    It might force the neocon establishment to defend nationalism qua nationalism, in a way that applies not just to Israelis but to ourselves.
     
    Don't count on it. The lesson of the last 35 years of American conservatism is that when you combine neoconservatism and conservatism, the result is neoconservatism. Add in the cheap-labor-through-amnesty business lobby as a useful catalyst to this process.

    “The historical task and political purpose of neo-conservatism is to convert the Republican Party and American conservatism in general, against their prospective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy.” – Irving Kristol

  51. @Thrasymachus
    Being anti-Israel is the only partially socially acceptable way to oppose Jews, so at least some people do it for just that reason.

    Still, the only sane resolution to the situation is one state. The Jews on the West Bank aren't going anywhere; the territory is in all but name in the state of Israel. So that fact has to be formally recognized.

    >>> The Jews on the West Bank aren’t going anywhere; the territory is in all but name in the state of Israel. So that fact has to be formally recognized.

    Not really. Where ==are=== all these Israeli farmers who refused to participate in re-labeling the Gulf-directed boxes of bananas as “Product of Palestine” ?

    Can anyone show me a department store in Ariel which doesn’t have bi-lingual (Hebrew & Arabic) signs ?

    If Qatari merchants can bow to the ultimate indignity of pocketing money made by selling re-labeled Hebrew bananas to Saudi supermarkets, I guess we also can also swallow our patriotic pride and make it logistically easy for Kuwaiti matrons to get from, and back to, their hotel room in Amman – with unmarked, but heavily laden – shopping bags.

  52. anon • Disclaimer says:

    My conversion to the right was hastened by the realization that the left hated me and what I stood for: White Conservative Christian Male Husband Father Business Owner.

    I wonder if American Jews will continue to be stupid on purpose and continue to ignore the left’s hatred of them and their heritage.

    • Replies: @Joe Walker
    I wonder if American Jews will continue to be stupid on purpose and continue to ignore the left’s hatred of them and their heritage

    Jews control the left. The people on the left who hate the Jews have no power.
  53. @Anonymous
    Rahm might lose and also Netanyahoo might lose.

    Still the US congress will remain occupied territory. The new generation? Sen Tom Cotton is the biggest bootlicker of them all.

    Conservatives: The meaning of life is Israel worship.

    Liberals: The meaning of life is NAM worship.

    Good luck, America!

    “The new generation? Sen Tom Cotton is the biggest bootlicker of them all.”
    Ted Cruz will give him a run for the money….literally.

    ‘If you will not stand with Israel and the Jews, then I will not stand with you.’ – Ted Cruz.

    • Replies: @Joe Walker
    ‘If you will not stand with Israel and the Jews, then I will not stand with you.’ – Ted Cruz.

    Just one more reason to vote against Ted Cruz.
  54. Covertly promoting antisemitism among Latinos would be a good strategy just for the perceptions it could induce.

    • Replies: @Joe Walker
    Not really. Jews already blame white gentiles for anti-Semitism. Many Jews blame Europeans for anti-Jewish sentiments among the Arabs, including the Palestinians.
  55. Or it could be that conservative white people continue to outsource most of their healthy patriotic instincts to Israel?

    One of the reasons conservative white people do this is that it’s one of the few forms of ethnic pride acceptable for white people. As your commenter noted, Jewish pride is a kind of subset to white pride. Consciously or unconsciously, white Americans in general and white Christian evangelicals in particular have adopted pro-Israeli and/or pro-Jewish sentiment as a covert form of white pride.

    One of the things I’ve started to pick up on since becoming an iSteve regular is how widespread this impulse is. People who are denied the right to openly engage in boosterism for their own tribe will simply channel these feelings into other, more socially-acceptable outlets. “Nerd pride” and Portlandia-style Hipsterism are almost certainly covert forms of white pride. The overwhelming affinity Jewish intellectuals had for various flavors of communism during the 20th century was almost certainly a sublimated form of ethnic nationalism at a time when open expressions of Jewish pride were more problematic.

    This is why, unlike a lot of other folks on the Unz Review, I don’t get too worked up about Israeli or Jewish control of the American media or American politics: I suspect that much of this purported pro-Israeli sentiment is largely an undercover way of rooting for white people. It’s an expression of the envy white Americans feel for the way Israel is permitted to act forthrightly and without apology in advancing its own interests. They’d very much like their own country to be allowed to act the same way, and their fanboyish attitude towards Israel is a subversive way of expressing support for policies — like tough border enforcement and strict immigration rules aimed at promoting their culture — they’d like to see in America.

    You can see the same dynamic at work in the admiration some old-school conservatives have for Putin’s Russia. I doubt many of those folks actually LIKE Putin or want to duplicate Putinism in the West; giving props to Vlad P. is just their way of critiquing their own societies.

    • Replies: @anon
    You are making stuff up. No one is is conflating Israeli patriotism with American patriotism. We Christian conservatives feel some affinity for Israel but after visiting there and understanding the modern iteration of Judaism, I have moved away from the spiritual affinity. Us whites have to keep our ethnic pride under wraps, otherwise we would be in conflict with the PC crowd.

    As for the SWPL crowd, self-hate of their whiteness is mandatory and must be displayed at all times.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    Hmm...

    The numerous evangelical types I've had to be in proximity to during the course of my life believed in a fairy tale starring Jewish people. This is not displaced pride, but childlike awe. Remember, their own kind have to be "saved" by a rabbi in the last few chapters of the fantasy.

    There's a map somewhere that shows the percentage of support for Israel in each part of the fifty United States. The highest support numbers are not in the Jewish habitats of NYC and LA, where you'd expect, but instead all across the Bible Belt.

    Furthermore, it is easy to imagine how the chosen ones themselves might grow up with an inflated self image and exaggerated sense of self-importance. After all, God's own best seller is basically a story about their family. It's been so popular for so long that they don't even have to hype it on their list in the New York Times.

    Believing in yourself goes a long way, and when you see yourself in opposition to all that is evil, you have that much more fire in your belly to go out and fight. In our time, that will has been displaced in the form of Social Justice Warriors and know-it-alls.

    Two things are often overlooked: 1) Even if a distribution curve is a deviation to the right, there still are a vast number of morons and jackasses over on the left side of the family, and 2) The bulk of the people under that "special" curve are pretty darn near average and thus not smart enough to realize it.

  56. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Blank

    Or it could be that conservative white people continue to outsource most of their healthy patriotic instincts to Israel?
     
    One of the reasons conservative white people do this is that it's one of the few forms of ethnic pride acceptable for white people. As your commenter noted, Jewish pride is a kind of subset to white pride. Consciously or unconsciously, white Americans in general and white Christian evangelicals in particular have adopted pro-Israeli and/or pro-Jewish sentiment as a covert form of white pride.

    One of the things I've started to pick up on since becoming an iSteve regular is how widespread this impulse is. People who are denied the right to openly engage in boosterism for their own tribe will simply channel these feelings into other, more socially-acceptable outlets. "Nerd pride" and Portlandia-style Hipsterism are almost certainly covert forms of white pride. The overwhelming affinity Jewish intellectuals had for various flavors of communism during the 20th century was almost certainly a sublimated form of ethnic nationalism at a time when open expressions of Jewish pride were more problematic.

    This is why, unlike a lot of other folks on the Unz Review, I don't get too worked up about Israeli or Jewish control of the American media or American politics: I suspect that much of this purported pro-Israeli sentiment is largely an undercover way of rooting for white people. It's an expression of the envy white Americans feel for the way Israel is permitted to act forthrightly and without apology in advancing its own interests. They'd very much like their own country to be allowed to act the same way, and their fanboyish attitude towards Israel is a subversive way of expressing support for policies — like tough border enforcement and strict immigration rules aimed at promoting their culture — they'd like to see in America.

    You can see the same dynamic at work in the admiration some old-school conservatives have for Putin's Russia. I doubt many of those folks actually LIKE Putin or want to duplicate Putinism in the West; giving props to Vlad P. is just their way of critiquing their own societies.

    You are making stuff up. No one is is conflating Israeli patriotism with American patriotism. We Christian conservatives feel some affinity for Israel but after visiting there and understanding the modern iteration of Judaism, I have moved away from the spiritual affinity. Us whites have to keep our ethnic pride under wraps, otherwise we would be in conflict with the PC crowd.

    As for the SWPL crowd, self-hate of their whiteness is mandatory and must be displayed at all times.

  57. @Anon
    What whites should do is think in terms of 'we are all Palestinians'.

    It's wrong to frame this is terms of nationalism vs victimhood.

    All nationalisms have a victim narrative, and all victimhoods have a nationalist element.

    So, why not defend white nationalism along with all the non-white nationalisms? Let each non-white group watch out for its nationalism/victimhood, and let whites do the same.

    Now, which nationalism/victimhood should whites side with?

    Jewish or Palestinian?

    I say Palestinian. Jews have played a two-faced game for too long and have done too much damage. Just look what they did to Russia despite Putin's generosity to Jews.

    Enough already.

    Whites should empathize with Palestinian nationalism since whites and Palestinians have a common enemy.

    Steve wrote:

    Or it could be that conservative white people continue to outsource most of their healthy patriotic instincts to Israel?

    What we outsource to Israel is not healthy. The current government fanaticism with spying on everyone and anything is rooted in Zionist paranoia. The loss of freedoms associated with the war on terror has turned the US into one of the biggest terror inducing nations. “Shock and awe” is just another word for terrorizing people for political purposes.

    Israel is the most terrorist nation on the planet.

    So, why not defend white nationalism along with all the non-white nationalisms? Let each non-white group watch out for its nationalism/victimhood, and let whites do the same.

    Now, which nationalism/victimhood should whites side with?

    Jewish or Palestinian?

    I say Palestinian.

    Let’s not choose sides, but rather return to our roots. Read our own Declaration of Independence, read our own Constitution. Compare Israel’s behavior to those which prompted these documents. Conclude that Palestinian grievances are exactly those which led to our founding. Conclude that Israel, Zionists, and neo-cons are the enemies of our country and freedom.

    Palestine has gained observer status in the UN. Palestine has joined the International Criminal Court. Palestine has prepared a brief on the most recent war crimes committed by Israel in Gaza. Israel cries like a little baby and says, “Oh, this stands in the way of peace.”

    Israel commits war crimes daily through the theft of Palestinian lands.

  58. • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Didn't the radio comedian Gary Owens just die?
    , @MarkinLA
    Must be dyslexia. When I first saw the T-shirt I mistook the R for an F.
  59. OT: An award-winning, openly gay, Afro-Latino talk show host at Univision, has been “outed” as white after saying that Michelle Obama looks like a character from The Planet of the Apes:

    “Venezuelan-born Figueroa made the remark in a segment discussing the work of make-up artist Paolo Ballesteros who posts photos of himself transformed into female celebrities such as the First Lady.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2992012/Univision-sacks-Emmy-winning-host-says-Michelle-Obama-looks-like-s-cast-Planet-Apes.html

    Steve, as a goodwill gesture to the Latino community, maybe you could ask Gustavo Arellano to translate your Pokemon Points theory into Spanish and have Ron Unz post it somewhere on this site.

    Less amusingly:

    Dallas police arrested a teenager in last week’s fatal shooting of an Iraqi immigrant who was gunned down while taking pictures of his first snowfall, officials said on Friday.

    Police said they do not see the killing as a hate crime. Ahmed al-Jumaili, 36, had only been in the United States for about three weeks to be reunited with his wife when he was shot in the chest as he stood in the parking lot with his family, enjoying the snow, according to police.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/13/us-usa-texas-shooting-idUSKBN0M91JV20150313

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2993401/Police-arrest-suspect-murder-Iraqi-newlywed-Ahmed-Al-Jumaili-36-shot-dead-Dallas-just-three-weeks-arriving-U-S.html

    The important thing is that it wasn’t a hate crime, right?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    The important thing is that it wasn’t a hate crime, right?

    Maybe we're supposed to take it as given that blacks hate everyone. (And rightly so, we are told.)
  60. Kevin Macdonald’s blog has been hit by a cyber attack.

  61. However, Steve, I’ve noticed that Jewish SJW’s do claim that they are “oppressed people of color”, sometimes adding “presenting/passing as white” (in an interesting stylistic borrowing from the transgenderists).

    The elites always win even in our topsy-turvy Oppression Olympics world.

  62. @BenjaminL
    Gary Owens, the black man's white comedian

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/gary-owen-wants-to-be-more-than-black-americas-favorite-whit#.kdlMoENyP


    OT

    Didn’t the radio comedian Gary Owens just die?

  63. Afterall 2% of the voting population is not much of a ‘prize’

    “The Jewish vote” is mostly a euphemism for “massive amounts of Jewish political money.” That’s one of the biggest prizes out there; a huge carrot and a huge stick.

    both prefer the Old Testament over the New

    You had me going until that bit. Wrong. Maybe replace it with “both believe Zion for Jews is right and Zion for Whites is wrong,” something like that.

    Someone (who ISN’T Jewish) smells money.

    How do you know the someone isn’t Jewish?

    Kevin Macdonald’s blog has been hit by a cyber attack.

    If they don’t hate you, you’re doing it wrong.

    • Replies: @Joe Walker
    “The Jewish vote” is mostly a euphemism for “massive amounts of Jewish political money.” That’s one of the biggest prizes out there; a huge carrot and a huge stick.

    The problem is that the only way to get that money is by endorsing policies that are harmful to white gentiles and the USA.
  64. @IBC
    OT: An award-winning, openly gay, Afro-Latino talk show host at Univision, has been "outed" as white after saying that Michelle Obama looks like a character from The Planet of the Apes:

    "Venezuelan-born Figueroa made the remark in a segment discussing the work of make-up artist Paolo Ballesteros who posts photos of himself transformed into female celebrities such as the First Lady."

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2992012/Univision-sacks-Emmy-winning-host-says-Michelle-Obama-looks-like-s-cast-Planet-Apes.html

    Steve, as a goodwill gesture to the Latino community, maybe you could ask Gustavo Arellano to translate your Pokemon Points theory into Spanish and have Ron Unz post it somewhere on this site.

    Less amusingly:


    Dallas police arrested a teenager in last week's fatal shooting of an Iraqi immigrant who was gunned down while taking pictures of his first snowfall, officials said on Friday.

    Police said they do not see the killing as a hate crime. Ahmed al-Jumaili, 36, had only been in the United States for about three weeks to be reunited with his wife when he was shot in the chest as he stood in the parking lot with his family, enjoying the snow, according to police.
     

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/13/us-usa-texas-shooting-idUSKBN0M91JV20150313

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2993401/Police-arrest-suspect-murder-Iraqi-newlywed-Ahmed-Al-Jumaili-36-shot-dead-Dallas-just-three-weeks-arriving-U-S.html

    The important thing is that it wasn't a hate crime, right?

    The important thing is that it wasn’t a hate crime, right?

    Maybe we’re supposed to take it as given that blacks hate everyone. (And rightly so, we are told.)

    • Replies: @stumm
    Maybe we’re supposed to take it as given that blacks hate everyone. (And rightly so, we are told.)

    But blacks hate blacks the most. (and rightly so, given how much violence and abuse they suffer from blacks.)

  65. @Jack D
    I'm guessing that the marriage that Cagey is referring to is between Protestant and Jewish elites. In many cases, it is a literal marriage. One of FDR's great grandsons is a Reform rabbi. But in any elite institution in America today (Ivy Universities, big law firms, teaching hospitals, Wall St., boards of trustees of universities, museums and charities, etc.) WASPs and Jews are who you are going to find, side by side, with some Asians and a quota of affirmative action blacks and Hispanics sprinkled in. Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals - they learned this from WASP social reformers. The Yiddish radio station in NY was WEVD, named in honor of Eugene V. Debs of Indiana, the leader of the American Socialist Party.

    Now for a long time, elite WASPs were as cool to Jews as they were to other ethnics - a few were OK (or not - when Jewish refugees were trying to get out of Nazi Germany, a Canadian government minister was asked how many they should let in and he replied that "none is too many") but not too many (to this day, Derbyshire talks about ethnics as being the "salt" that you put in the soup - a sprinkle seasons it nicely but a lot ruins the taste). Maybe the US was a little better - the formula at Yale Med School in the '30s was 5 Jews, 2 Italians and 0 blacks. BTW, this shows that if Jews were treated as 2nd class citizens, then Italians were 3rd class and blacks were not considered citizens at all. But that seems to be over now. Maybe the fact that the Jewish proletariat of Europe is all dead means that they are not in danger of oversalting the soup anymore and we can turn attention to more abundant threats. Or that people of high intelligence are a natural fit with each other - Charles Murray's "Belmont" is populated by Jews and WASPs living side by side while "Fishtown" is Ferguson - marginal whites forced to coexist with Section 8 blacks and Hispanics.

    Yes it’s the elite, bourgeois types I have in mind when I talk about WASPs. I know many people use the term more broadly but I don’t think of, say, an Air Force officer with a Lutheran upbringing in Wisconsin as a WASP.

  66. @Mr. Blank

    Or it could be that conservative white people continue to outsource most of their healthy patriotic instincts to Israel?
     
    One of the reasons conservative white people do this is that it's one of the few forms of ethnic pride acceptable for white people. As your commenter noted, Jewish pride is a kind of subset to white pride. Consciously or unconsciously, white Americans in general and white Christian evangelicals in particular have adopted pro-Israeli and/or pro-Jewish sentiment as a covert form of white pride.

    One of the things I've started to pick up on since becoming an iSteve regular is how widespread this impulse is. People who are denied the right to openly engage in boosterism for their own tribe will simply channel these feelings into other, more socially-acceptable outlets. "Nerd pride" and Portlandia-style Hipsterism are almost certainly covert forms of white pride. The overwhelming affinity Jewish intellectuals had for various flavors of communism during the 20th century was almost certainly a sublimated form of ethnic nationalism at a time when open expressions of Jewish pride were more problematic.

    This is why, unlike a lot of other folks on the Unz Review, I don't get too worked up about Israeli or Jewish control of the American media or American politics: I suspect that much of this purported pro-Israeli sentiment is largely an undercover way of rooting for white people. It's an expression of the envy white Americans feel for the way Israel is permitted to act forthrightly and without apology in advancing its own interests. They'd very much like their own country to be allowed to act the same way, and their fanboyish attitude towards Israel is a subversive way of expressing support for policies — like tough border enforcement and strict immigration rules aimed at promoting their culture — they'd like to see in America.

    You can see the same dynamic at work in the admiration some old-school conservatives have for Putin's Russia. I doubt many of those folks actually LIKE Putin or want to duplicate Putinism in the West; giving props to Vlad P. is just their way of critiquing their own societies.

    Hmm…

    The numerous evangelical types I’ve had to be in proximity to during the course of my life believed in a fairy tale starring Jewish people. This is not displaced pride, but childlike awe. Remember, their own kind have to be “saved” by a rabbi in the last few chapters of the fantasy.

    There’s a map somewhere that shows the percentage of support for Israel in each part of the fifty United States. The highest support numbers are not in the Jewish habitats of NYC and LA, where you’d expect, but instead all across the Bible Belt.

    Furthermore, it is easy to imagine how the chosen ones themselves might grow up with an inflated self image and exaggerated sense of self-importance. After all, God’s own best seller is basically a story about their family. It’s been so popular for so long that they don’t even have to hype it on their list in the New York Times.

    Believing in yourself goes a long way, and when you see yourself in opposition to all that is evil, you have that much more fire in your belly to go out and fight. In our time, that will has been displaced in the form of Social Justice Warriors and know-it-alls.

    Two things are often overlooked: 1) Even if a distribution curve is a deviation to the right, there still are a vast number of morons and jackasses over on the left side of the family, and 2) The bulk of the people under that “special” curve are pretty darn near average and thus not smart enough to realize it.

    • Replies: @anowow
    There are probably several motives for knee-jerk Israel support and an individual might be motivated by more than one. But, purely anecdotal, based on conversations or reading internet posts, the two main ones are childlike awe and outsourced nationalism (both excellent descriptions by the way).

    The simplistic awe you mention is mostly, but not limited to the Dispensationalists. Probably due in large part to media induced social conditioning, many Americans think of Jews as magically smart people who benefit us all or they are the eternal protagonists. The Dispensationalists take this fuzzy warm feeling up a notch.

    The outsourced nattionalism shows up in a lot of internet posts by so-called Independents (i.e. embarassed GOPers) or mainstream GOPers. It isn't Christian Zionism, and its proponents are often quite socially liberal, but are definitely Team America. This confused bunch will go back and forth from militaristic jingoism to accusations or racism for those of us who don't think Arabs or Kurds will ever, as a group, get civics quite right. They strongly identify with the Kurds or whoever our allies du jour are. The Israelis being an ally of long-standing with media clout get more love, but the difference between the love for Israelis and the Kurds is one of degree, not kind. Many less than thoughtful and earnest military guys seem to be susceptible to this type of thinking. They are the poster children for confused America.

    Many of the above named clueless sorts never realize why Egypt or the Palestinians get foreign aid. They never understand that the money sent to Israel's neighbors really counts as aid to Israel and is not an expression of Obama's Muslim love.

    Independent of the Israeli issue, these individuals are much larger obstacles to genuine conservativism in the US than the feminists or Al Sharptons of the world.

    Finally, it would be nice if the alt-right would quit shedding crocodile tears for the Palestinians. Our interest in them shouldn't go beyond condemning grievances towards Christianity committed by Israeli politicians, which could be dealt with by sanctions. You can't win by participating in the game established by liberals which includes gentlemanly hand-wringing over indigenous rights and colonialism. Take a note from Alan Dershowitz, get some chutzpah.

  67. @Anon
    "Rashid Khalidi still hates you"

    Rash doesn't have to like whites, and whites don't have to like Rash.

    All we have to recognize is that his nationalism and white nationalism have both been harmed by Jewish power.

    Furthermore, while Palestinians have symbolic power, they have no real power. Not in the media, government, Hollywood, Las Vegas, Silicon Valley, and etc. So, there isn't much they can do to harm whites.

    In contrast, Jews wield immense power. Obama, Holder, Sotomayor, Kagan, Wasserman, Pritzker, Soros, Barney Frank, etc are all various faces of Jewish power.

    With “friends” like Obama, who needs enemies?

  68. both prefer the Old Testament over the New

    No Protestant prefers the Old Testament over the New. But they believe both are inspired by God. You aren’t a Christian if you disregard the Old Testament because you think it is too Jewish.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    No Protestant prefers the Old Testament over the New.
    Officially they don't but unofficially many of them sure do. Their little eyes only light up when there's some good Old Testament smiting going on.

    You aren’t a Christian if you disregard the Old Testament because you think it is too Jewish.

    No, it's standard-issue Christianity to see the Old Testament as largely the story of a people in need of Christ.

    @cran
    … and conservative Lutherans.
    Yes, you're right to add them.
    , @Joe Walker
    How do you reconcile the fact that in the Old Testament, God acts like a blood-thirsty psychopath, while in the New Testament, he says that we should love our enemies?
  69. @advancedatheist
    Bertrand Russell noticed the psychological similarity of Jewish and Protestant freethinkers in one of his essays, as I recall.

    And if there’s anyone who’d know what he was talking about on that matter It’d be Bertrand Russell. England is a funny place because there are prominent people who I say can be justly lumped together under the “Jews, Protestants and Freemasons” label and those who can’t. The Wedgewood-Benn family is definitely WASPy in that way. I’d even say a case could be made that Julian Huxley was a WASP while his brother Aldous Huxley was not but I think I’m getting a bit too cute. If I go down that path I’ll be trying to figure out which of the Mitford Sisters were WASPs and which weren’t.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    My impression is that you use WASP in the same way that I would use "Jews, Protestants, and Freemasons". If I am right then only Jessica was a WASP, and the rest were splendidly on the Right side, except perhaps poor Nancy, who emoted to the Left but actually lived very much to the Right (how else could she have got along so well with Evelyn Waugh?).
    The Rightest of them all was not one of the sisters (although the sublime Diana was a shining star, no, a resplendent sun of Rightness) but Tom, the brother and heir. He was so far sighted as to have understood that the war against Germany was a racial and civilisational crime of unparalleled stupidity; one with which he would have nothing to do. Alas, the Japanese killed him just as the war was ending.
    The bitter truth is that it is Jessica who has won out in the end, and there is no turning back.
  70. @Jack D
    I'm guessing that the marriage that Cagey is referring to is between Protestant and Jewish elites. In many cases, it is a literal marriage. One of FDR's great grandsons is a Reform rabbi. But in any elite institution in America today (Ivy Universities, big law firms, teaching hospitals, Wall St., boards of trustees of universities, museums and charities, etc.) WASPs and Jews are who you are going to find, side by side, with some Asians and a quota of affirmative action blacks and Hispanics sprinkled in. Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals - they learned this from WASP social reformers. The Yiddish radio station in NY was WEVD, named in honor of Eugene V. Debs of Indiana, the leader of the American Socialist Party.

    Now for a long time, elite WASPs were as cool to Jews as they were to other ethnics - a few were OK (or not - when Jewish refugees were trying to get out of Nazi Germany, a Canadian government minister was asked how many they should let in and he replied that "none is too many") but not too many (to this day, Derbyshire talks about ethnics as being the "salt" that you put in the soup - a sprinkle seasons it nicely but a lot ruins the taste). Maybe the US was a little better - the formula at Yale Med School in the '30s was 5 Jews, 2 Italians and 0 blacks. BTW, this shows that if Jews were treated as 2nd class citizens, then Italians were 3rd class and blacks were not considered citizens at all. But that seems to be over now. Maybe the fact that the Jewish proletariat of Europe is all dead means that they are not in danger of oversalting the soup anymore and we can turn attention to more abundant threats. Or that people of high intelligence are a natural fit with each other - Charles Murray's "Belmont" is populated by Jews and WASPs living side by side while "Fishtown" is Ferguson - marginal whites forced to coexist with Section 8 blacks and Hispanics.

    Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals

    Indeed not. They arrived as Communists and Anarchists, in their many thousands.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    They arrived at different times, with vastly different cultural backgrounds. The mid-19th century German Jews were more educated, worldly and socially conservative than the 1890s-1920s Eastern Europeans.

    Even within that group there were differences, although they were definitely second rate in the eyes of Our Crowd. There were many Commies, etc in the later arrivals, but many more Fiddlers on the Roof, tinkers, tailors, (no soldiers, plenty of thieves - gonifim) or peddlers or poor shtetl folk or borderline/former serfs from the Pale of Settlement.

    There were many themes in the great unwashed. Each group had its pathologies, such as the overcrowded shtetl in-breeding on the far side of the Hajnal Line, with assorted diseases and neuroses.

  71. @Cagey Beast
    What is with Christians getting weird when they spend too much time with the Old Testament?

    It's because Christ and the history of his time on earth are supposed to be the central pivot-point of Christendom's story of itself. The New Testament as the central point, the Old Testament at the far end and the centuries of Christian history and teaching down here with us closer to the present day. The histories of the Church Fathers, lives of the saints, holy martyrs, theologians and pious kings of our own act as more than enough of a counterbalance to the Old Testament. The Catholics, Orthodox and Anglicans get this right.

    The histories of the Church Fathers, lives of the saints, holy martyrs, theologians and pious kings of our own act as more than enough of a counterbalance to the Old Testament. The Catholics, Orthodox and Anglicans get this right.

    … and conservative Lutherans.

  72. @Harry Baldwin
    The important thing is that it wasn’t a hate crime, right?

    Maybe we're supposed to take it as given that blacks hate everyone. (And rightly so, we are told.)

    Maybe we’re supposed to take it as given that blacks hate everyone. (And rightly so, we are told.)

    But blacks hate blacks the most. (and rightly so, given how much violence and abuse they suffer from blacks.)

  73. Dallas police arrested a teenager in last week’s fatal shooting of an Iraqi immigrant who was gunned down while taking pictures of his first snowfall, officials said on Friday.

    Police said they do not see the killing as a hate crime.

    Teenager? Uh, oh. They didn’t say the race or gender, so let the reader assume it is …

    • Replies: @CJ
    That assumption would seem to be accurate. The arrestee's name is Nykerion Nealon. For those who gotta have pix:

    Dallas Police Arrest Suspect in Case of Iraqi Man Killed While Photographing Snow
  74. @Outsider

    both prefer the Old Testament over the New
     
    No Protestant prefers the Old Testament over the New. But they believe both are inspired by God. You aren't a Christian if you disregard the Old Testament because you think it is too Jewish.

    No Protestant prefers the Old Testament over the New.
    Officially they don’t but unofficially many of them sure do. Their little eyes only light up when there’s some good Old Testament smiting going on.

    You aren’t a Christian if you disregard the Old Testament because you think it is too Jewish.

    No, it’s standard-issue Christianity to see the Old Testament as largely the story of a people in need of Christ.


    … and conservative Lutherans.
    Yes, you’re right to add them.

  75. @peterike

    Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals

     

    Indeed not. They arrived as Communists and Anarchists, in their many thousands.

    They arrived at different times, with vastly different cultural backgrounds. The mid-19th century German Jews were more educated, worldly and socially conservative than the 1890s-1920s Eastern Europeans.

    Even within that group there were differences, although they were definitely second rate in the eyes of Our Crowd. There were many Commies, etc in the later arrivals, but many more Fiddlers on the Roof, tinkers, tailors, (no soldiers, plenty of thieves – gonifim) or peddlers or poor shtetl folk or borderline/former serfs from the Pale of Settlement.

    There were many themes in the great unwashed. Each group had its pathologies, such as the overcrowded shtetl in-breeding on the far side of the Hajnal Line, with assorted diseases and neuroses.

  76. @unit472
    20 to 30% of Jews already don't vote Democrat but the problem maybe that liberal Jews have created a Frankenstein monster on the left they can no longer control and Republicans are to spineless to resist. Afterall 2% of the voting population is not much of a 'prize' and Republican strategists seem wedded to the dream of somehow being able to peel off 20 or 30% of the black vote which would cause a political earthquake... if it ever happened. Thus, instead of the perennial candidacy of Harold Stassen, we have the perennial black Republican candidate for president and black Republicans ( often RINOs like Colin Powell) being given prominent posts in any Republican Administration out of all proportion to their numbers. The problem with this dream is that the money is running out and the endless stream of public funding that has sustained the artificial 'black middle class' is drying up. Both parties are going to have hell to pay as blacks stipends and sinecures both dry up and have to be reallocated to the Hispanic population in proportion to their growing voting power.

    It is here that the GOP has the better chance of making inroads though the thorny issue of illegal immigration may forever make it almost as illusory as winning any significant share of the black vote. The easiest tactic might be just to set blacks and Hispanics at each other's throats and pick up the residue. Demand proportional hiring in Democratic run urban fiefdoms to include Hispanics e.g. or face cut offs in Federal funding.

    Sailer's suggestion to make the Democrats choose between black and brown and identify them as the party of the blacks might be the only way the GOP can attract enough Hispanic, Jewish and Asian voters to form a permanent majority in the coming decades.

    Average blacks do not support amnesty and are resentful of illegals claiming that amnesty is a civil right. The best strategy is to support strong border control as a way to get blacks jobs and higher pay. Oh wait, we are talking about the Republican party, sorry.

  77. @Jack D
    Having trouble parsing your sentence:

    The largest growth in numbers of Jews are Orthodox Jews who are not Zionist ..

    Are you saying all Orthodox Jews are not Zionist? This is not true. There is a small fringe of extreme Orthodox who are anti-Zionist (they say the Jews have to wait for the Messiah to be restored to Israel and can't take matters into their own hands) but most Orthodox have strong connections to Israel, family there, go back and forth, etc. In contrast, the young generation of secular Jews, esp. those not affiliated with synagogues, may feel little connection with Israel and may even identify with the anti-Israel left.

    The largest growth in numbers of Jews are Orthodox Jews who are not Zionist ..

    Are you saying all Orthodox Jews are not Zionist?

    If he were saying that, he would put a comma before “who”.

  78. @Anonymous
    John Derbyshire had a great comment about the role Jews would necessarily play in any race realism awakening:

    “no social movement in the West will get anywhere unless it can recruit some smart Jews. Jews are the word people par excellence. To publicize, convert, propagandize, and litigate, you need Jews.”


    What a pathetic excuse for a man is this Derbyshire.

    He’s got a goyishe kop. If he were a Supa-Smooth-Talkin’-Joo(TM), he’d know better than to come right out and scream, “Hebrews, join our cause! We can’t litigate without you!”

  79. @BenjaminL
    Gary Owens, the black man's white comedian

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/gary-owen-wants-to-be-more-than-black-americas-favorite-whit#.kdlMoENyP


    OT

    Must be dyslexia. When I first saw the T-shirt I mistook the R for an F.

  80. @Jack D
    I'm guessing that the marriage that Cagey is referring to is between Protestant and Jewish elites. In many cases, it is a literal marriage. One of FDR's great grandsons is a Reform rabbi. But in any elite institution in America today (Ivy Universities, big law firms, teaching hospitals, Wall St., boards of trustees of universities, museums and charities, etc.) WASPs and Jews are who you are going to find, side by side, with some Asians and a quota of affirmative action blacks and Hispanics sprinkled in. Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals - they learned this from WASP social reformers. The Yiddish radio station in NY was WEVD, named in honor of Eugene V. Debs of Indiana, the leader of the American Socialist Party.

    Now for a long time, elite WASPs were as cool to Jews as they were to other ethnics - a few were OK (or not - when Jewish refugees were trying to get out of Nazi Germany, a Canadian government minister was asked how many they should let in and he replied that "none is too many") but not too many (to this day, Derbyshire talks about ethnics as being the "salt" that you put in the soup - a sprinkle seasons it nicely but a lot ruins the taste). Maybe the US was a little better - the formula at Yale Med School in the '30s was 5 Jews, 2 Italians and 0 blacks. BTW, this shows that if Jews were treated as 2nd class citizens, then Italians were 3rd class and blacks were not considered citizens at all. But that seems to be over now. Maybe the fact that the Jewish proletariat of Europe is all dead means that they are not in danger of oversalting the soup anymore and we can turn attention to more abundant threats. Or that people of high intelligence are a natural fit with each other - Charles Murray's "Belmont" is populated by Jews and WASPs living side by side while "Fishtown" is Ferguson - marginal whites forced to coexist with Section 8 blacks and Hispanics.

    Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals – they learned this from WASP social reformers.

    Liberals are those who can’t take their own side in an argument. Jews never became liberals.

  81. Dallas police arrested a teenager in last week’s fatal shooting of an Iraqi immigrant who was gunned down while taking pictures of his first snowfall, officials said on Friday.

    Even for someone who thinks Iraqis don’t belong in this country, that was awfully poignant.

  82. @Jack D
    I'm guessing that the marriage that Cagey is referring to is between Protestant and Jewish elites. In many cases, it is a literal marriage. One of FDR's great grandsons is a Reform rabbi. But in any elite institution in America today (Ivy Universities, big law firms, teaching hospitals, Wall St., boards of trustees of universities, museums and charities, etc.) WASPs and Jews are who you are going to find, side by side, with some Asians and a quota of affirmative action blacks and Hispanics sprinkled in. Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals - they learned this from WASP social reformers. The Yiddish radio station in NY was WEVD, named in honor of Eugene V. Debs of Indiana, the leader of the American Socialist Party.

    Now for a long time, elite WASPs were as cool to Jews as they were to other ethnics - a few were OK (or not - when Jewish refugees were trying to get out of Nazi Germany, a Canadian government minister was asked how many they should let in and he replied that "none is too many") but not too many (to this day, Derbyshire talks about ethnics as being the "salt" that you put in the soup - a sprinkle seasons it nicely but a lot ruins the taste). Maybe the US was a little better - the formula at Yale Med School in the '30s was 5 Jews, 2 Italians and 0 blacks. BTW, this shows that if Jews were treated as 2nd class citizens, then Italians were 3rd class and blacks were not considered citizens at all. But that seems to be over now. Maybe the fact that the Jewish proletariat of Europe is all dead means that they are not in danger of oversalting the soup anymore and we can turn attention to more abundant threats. Or that people of high intelligence are a natural fit with each other - Charles Murray's "Belmont" is populated by Jews and WASPs living side by side while "Fishtown" is Ferguson - marginal whites forced to coexist with Section 8 blacks and Hispanics.

    Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals – they learned this from WASP social reformers

    Next you will be saying that the English turned Karl Marx into a communist. Jews have generally embraced the left because they have seen that the most effective way to undermine white gentile populations is through left wing policies.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Yes, that's right. Every morning I wake up and I think to myself, "How can I undermine white gentiles today?". Spreading plague, poisoning the wells and baking gentile children into matza seem too old school, so I just go with left wing politics.
  83. @Jack D
    I'm guessing that the marriage that Cagey is referring to is between Protestant and Jewish elites. In many cases, it is a literal marriage. One of FDR's great grandsons is a Reform rabbi. But in any elite institution in America today (Ivy Universities, big law firms, teaching hospitals, Wall St., boards of trustees of universities, museums and charities, etc.) WASPs and Jews are who you are going to find, side by side, with some Asians and a quota of affirmative action blacks and Hispanics sprinkled in. Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals - they learned this from WASP social reformers. The Yiddish radio station in NY was WEVD, named in honor of Eugene V. Debs of Indiana, the leader of the American Socialist Party.

    Now for a long time, elite WASPs were as cool to Jews as they were to other ethnics - a few were OK (or not - when Jewish refugees were trying to get out of Nazi Germany, a Canadian government minister was asked how many they should let in and he replied that "none is too many") but not too many (to this day, Derbyshire talks about ethnics as being the "salt" that you put in the soup - a sprinkle seasons it nicely but a lot ruins the taste). Maybe the US was a little better - the formula at Yale Med School in the '30s was 5 Jews, 2 Italians and 0 blacks. BTW, this shows that if Jews were treated as 2nd class citizens, then Italians were 3rd class and blacks were not considered citizens at all. But that seems to be over now. Maybe the fact that the Jewish proletariat of Europe is all dead means that they are not in danger of oversalting the soup anymore and we can turn attention to more abundant threats. Or that people of high intelligence are a natural fit with each other - Charles Murray's "Belmont" is populated by Jews and WASPs living side by side while "Fishtown" is Ferguson - marginal whites forced to coexist with Section 8 blacks and Hispanics.

    Charles Murray’s “Belmont” is populated by Jews and WASPs living side by side while “Fishtown” is Ferguson – marginal whites forced to coexist with Section 8 blacks and Hispanics.

    And one of the reasons why those “marginal whites” are forced to coexist with blacks and Hispanics is because of the political and economic policies supported by the Jews.

  84. @anon
    My conversion to the right was hastened by the realization that the left hated me and what I stood for: White Conservative Christian Male Husband Father Business Owner.

    I wonder if American Jews will continue to be stupid on purpose and continue to ignore the left's hatred of them and their heritage.

    I wonder if American Jews will continue to be stupid on purpose and continue to ignore the left’s hatred of them and their heritage

    Jews control the left. The people on the left who hate the Jews have no power.

  85. @Realist
    "The new generation? Sen Tom Cotton is the biggest bootlicker of them all."
    Ted Cruz will give him a run for the money....literally.

    ‘If you will not stand with Israel and the Jews, then I will not stand with you.’ – Ted Cruz.

    ‘If you will not stand with Israel and the Jews, then I will not stand with you.’ – Ted Cruz.

    Just one more reason to vote against Ted Cruz.

  86. @C. Van Carter
    Covertly promoting antisemitism among Latinos would be a good strategy just for the perceptions it could induce.

    Not really. Jews already blame white gentiles for anti-Semitism. Many Jews blame Europeans for anti-Jewish sentiments among the Arabs, including the Palestinians.

  87. I just thought of another bond between Jews and Protestants: both groups were excluded from full civil rights in France until the Revolution. Civil rights for Protestants, Jews, actors and executioners were all debated at the same time:

    “Speech on Religious Minorities and Questionable Professions” (23 December 1789)

    On 21 December 1789, a deputy raised the question of the status of non–Catholics under the new regime; his intervention started a long debate that quickly expanded to cover Jews, actors, and executioners, all of them excluded from various rights before 1789. Jews enjoyed certain rights within their own religious communities but were largely excluded from broader political and civil rights and in fact faced great restrictions on their choice of occupation, ability to own property, and the like. Actors and executioners both exercised professions that were considered “infamous”; actors took someone else’s role on the stage and were reputed to be immoral in their behavior, and executioners killed people, an act considered murder under other circumstances. As a consequence, neither actors nor executioners could vote or hold local offices before 1789, and they were often shunned. This first debate shows that declaring “the rights of man” raised as many questions as it answered. Once the question of Protestants had been raised, other excluded groups soon came up, beginning with actors. Since Brunet de Latuque had proposed a law covering “non–Catholics,” it was inevitable that someone would ask if this included the Jews, who were also non–Catholics but whom many deputies regarded as another nation altogether. Count Stanislas–Marie–Adélaide de Clermont–Tonnerre (1757–92) gave a long speech on the subject. A deputy from the nobility of Paris and generally aligned with the liberal nobles, Clermont–Tonnerre argued for an inclusive interpretation of the declaration of rights, but he rejected any separate or different legal status for Jewish communities. In his view, citizens were citizens as individuals, not as members of different social or ethnic groups.

    https://chnm.gmu.edu/revolution/d/284/

    In those days executioners were also torturers. So as I think of the neocon Bush Jr administration, and the neo-neocon Obama administration, I have to wonder – what with Gitmo and targeted killing by drone – whether they really ever should have given all these people the vote?

    • Replies: @Joe Walker
    I just thought of another bond between Jews and Protestants: both groups were excluded from full civil rights in France until the Revolution

    I think most WASPs are of English, not French, ancestry.
  88. @Svigor

    Afterall 2% of the voting population is not much of a ‘prize’
     
    "The Jewish vote" is mostly a euphemism for "massive amounts of Jewish political money." That's one of the biggest prizes out there; a huge carrot and a huge stick.

    both prefer the Old Testament over the New
     
    You had me going until that bit. Wrong. Maybe replace it with "both believe Zion for Jews is right and Zion for Whites is wrong," something like that.

    Someone (who ISN’T Jewish) smells money.
     
    How do you know the someone isn't Jewish?

    Kevin Macdonald’s blog has been hit by a cyber attack.
     
    If they don't hate you, you're doing it wrong.

    “The Jewish vote” is mostly a euphemism for “massive amounts of Jewish political money.” That’s one of the biggest prizes out there; a huge carrot and a huge stick.

    The problem is that the only way to get that money is by endorsing policies that are harmful to white gentiles and the USA.

  89. @Outsider

    both prefer the Old Testament over the New
     
    No Protestant prefers the Old Testament over the New. But they believe both are inspired by God. You aren't a Christian if you disregard the Old Testament because you think it is too Jewish.

    How do you reconcile the fact that in the Old Testament, God acts like a blood-thirsty psychopath, while in the New Testament, he says that we should love our enemies?

  90. @Cagey Beast
    I just thought of another bond between Jews and Protestants: both groups were excluded from full civil rights in France until the Revolution. Civil rights for Protestants, Jews, actors and executioners were all debated at the same time:

    "Speech on Religious Minorities and Questionable Professions" (23 December 1789)

    On 21 December 1789, a deputy raised the question of the status of non–Catholics under the new regime; his intervention started a long debate that quickly expanded to cover Jews, actors, and executioners, all of them excluded from various rights before 1789. Jews enjoyed certain rights within their own religious communities but were largely excluded from broader political and civil rights and in fact faced great restrictions on their choice of occupation, ability to own property, and the like. Actors and executioners both exercised professions that were considered "infamous"; actors took someone else’s role on the stage and were reputed to be immoral in their behavior, and executioners killed people, an act considered murder under other circumstances. As a consequence, neither actors nor executioners could vote or hold local offices before 1789, and they were often shunned. This first debate shows that declaring "the rights of man" raised as many questions as it answered. Once the question of Protestants had been raised, other excluded groups soon came up, beginning with actors. Since Brunet de Latuque had proposed a law covering "non–Catholics," it was inevitable that someone would ask if this included the Jews, who were also non–Catholics but whom many deputies regarded as another nation altogether. Count Stanislas–Marie–Adélaide de Clermont–Tonnerre (1757–92) gave a long speech on the subject. A deputy from the nobility of Paris and generally aligned with the liberal nobles, Clermont–Tonnerre argued for an inclusive interpretation of the declaration of rights, but he rejected any separate or different legal status for Jewish communities. In his view, citizens were citizens as individuals, not as members of different social or ethnic groups.
     
    https://chnm.gmu.edu/revolution/d/284/

    In those days executioners were also torturers. So as I think of the neocon Bush Jr administration, and the neo-neocon Obama administration, I have to wonder - what with Gitmo and targeted killing by drone - whether they really ever should have given all these people the vote?

    I just thought of another bond between Jews and Protestants: both groups were excluded from full civil rights in France until the Revolution

    I think most WASPs are of English, not French, ancestry.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    French Protestants settled in Charleston SC and were a mainstay of the elite there.
  91. @Buzz Mohawk
    Hmm...

    The numerous evangelical types I've had to be in proximity to during the course of my life believed in a fairy tale starring Jewish people. This is not displaced pride, but childlike awe. Remember, their own kind have to be "saved" by a rabbi in the last few chapters of the fantasy.

    There's a map somewhere that shows the percentage of support for Israel in each part of the fifty United States. The highest support numbers are not in the Jewish habitats of NYC and LA, where you'd expect, but instead all across the Bible Belt.

    Furthermore, it is easy to imagine how the chosen ones themselves might grow up with an inflated self image and exaggerated sense of self-importance. After all, God's own best seller is basically a story about their family. It's been so popular for so long that they don't even have to hype it on their list in the New York Times.

    Believing in yourself goes a long way, and when you see yourself in opposition to all that is evil, you have that much more fire in your belly to go out and fight. In our time, that will has been displaced in the form of Social Justice Warriors and know-it-alls.

    Two things are often overlooked: 1) Even if a distribution curve is a deviation to the right, there still are a vast number of morons and jackasses over on the left side of the family, and 2) The bulk of the people under that "special" curve are pretty darn near average and thus not smart enough to realize it.

    There are probably several motives for knee-jerk Israel support and an individual might be motivated by more than one. But, purely anecdotal, based on conversations or reading internet posts, the two main ones are childlike awe and outsourced nationalism (both excellent descriptions by the way).

    The simplistic awe you mention is mostly, but not limited to the Dispensationalists. Probably due in large part to media induced social conditioning, many Americans think of Jews as magically smart people who benefit us all or they are the eternal protagonists. The Dispensationalists take this fuzzy warm feeling up a notch.

    The outsourced nattionalism shows up in a lot of internet posts by so-called Independents (i.e. embarassed GOPers) or mainstream GOPers. It isn’t Christian Zionism, and its proponents are often quite socially liberal, but are definitely Team America. This confused bunch will go back and forth from militaristic jingoism to accusations or racism for those of us who don’t think Arabs or Kurds will ever, as a group, get civics quite right. They strongly identify with the Kurds or whoever our allies du jour are. The Israelis being an ally of long-standing with media clout get more love, but the difference between the love for Israelis and the Kurds is one of degree, not kind. Many less than thoughtful and earnest military guys seem to be susceptible to this type of thinking. They are the poster children for confused America.

    Many of the above named clueless sorts never realize why Egypt or the Palestinians get foreign aid. They never understand that the money sent to Israel’s neighbors really counts as aid to Israel and is not an expression of Obama’s Muslim love.

    Independent of the Israeli issue, these individuals are much larger obstacles to genuine conservativism in the US than the feminists or Al Sharptons of the world.

    Finally, it would be nice if the alt-right would quit shedding crocodile tears for the Palestinians. Our interest in them shouldn’t go beyond condemning grievances towards Christianity committed by Israeli politicians, which could be dealt with by sanctions. You can’t win by participating in the game established by liberals which includes gentlemanly hand-wringing over indigenous rights and colonialism. Take a note from Alan Dershowitz, get some chutzpah.

    • Replies: @No name
    "They are the poster children for confused America."

    Amen. It's easy to forget the huge knowledge gap of the average American after you've been reading iSteve for awhile. Try and talk to them about Jewish support for open borders and they'll say "Why would Jews want to let millions of Muslims into America? It doesn't make sense." In my experience this attitude is less about awe and more about fear of being called a Nazi.
    , @SFG
    I think (in addition to AIPAC manipulation, of course) it's the old bit about facing fearful odds for the ashes of your fathers and the temples of your gods. You don't really do that in the US Army--it's an imperialist tool, and the USA is not seriously threatened militarily by any country (though the immivasion may drag our GDP down quite a bit). So they go looking for other threatened groups to defend. You have victimization narratives in the histories of other groups too, though of course they can't give them quite as much play--there are quite a few movies about the oppressed Irish and Scots, and the Poles have been Central Europe's punching bag for years. America is full of the descendants of the losers of every major early-modern European power struggle--Irish, Ulster Scots, French Huguenots, German dissenters, Poles, Czechs, and countless others I've forgotten.
  92. @anowow
    There are probably several motives for knee-jerk Israel support and an individual might be motivated by more than one. But, purely anecdotal, based on conversations or reading internet posts, the two main ones are childlike awe and outsourced nationalism (both excellent descriptions by the way).

    The simplistic awe you mention is mostly, but not limited to the Dispensationalists. Probably due in large part to media induced social conditioning, many Americans think of Jews as magically smart people who benefit us all or they are the eternal protagonists. The Dispensationalists take this fuzzy warm feeling up a notch.

    The outsourced nattionalism shows up in a lot of internet posts by so-called Independents (i.e. embarassed GOPers) or mainstream GOPers. It isn't Christian Zionism, and its proponents are often quite socially liberal, but are definitely Team America. This confused bunch will go back and forth from militaristic jingoism to accusations or racism for those of us who don't think Arabs or Kurds will ever, as a group, get civics quite right. They strongly identify with the Kurds or whoever our allies du jour are. The Israelis being an ally of long-standing with media clout get more love, but the difference between the love for Israelis and the Kurds is one of degree, not kind. Many less than thoughtful and earnest military guys seem to be susceptible to this type of thinking. They are the poster children for confused America.

    Many of the above named clueless sorts never realize why Egypt or the Palestinians get foreign aid. They never understand that the money sent to Israel's neighbors really counts as aid to Israel and is not an expression of Obama's Muslim love.

    Independent of the Israeli issue, these individuals are much larger obstacles to genuine conservativism in the US than the feminists or Al Sharptons of the world.

    Finally, it would be nice if the alt-right would quit shedding crocodile tears for the Palestinians. Our interest in them shouldn't go beyond condemning grievances towards Christianity committed by Israeli politicians, which could be dealt with by sanctions. You can't win by participating in the game established by liberals which includes gentlemanly hand-wringing over indigenous rights and colonialism. Take a note from Alan Dershowitz, get some chutzpah.

    “They are the poster children for confused America.”

    Amen. It’s easy to forget the huge knowledge gap of the average American after you’ve been reading iSteve for awhile. Try and talk to them about Jewish support for open borders and they’ll say “Why would Jews want to let millions of Muslims into America? It doesn’t make sense.” In my experience this attitude is less about awe and more about fear of being called a Nazi.

  93. @anowow
    There are probably several motives for knee-jerk Israel support and an individual might be motivated by more than one. But, purely anecdotal, based on conversations or reading internet posts, the two main ones are childlike awe and outsourced nationalism (both excellent descriptions by the way).

    The simplistic awe you mention is mostly, but not limited to the Dispensationalists. Probably due in large part to media induced social conditioning, many Americans think of Jews as magically smart people who benefit us all or they are the eternal protagonists. The Dispensationalists take this fuzzy warm feeling up a notch.

    The outsourced nattionalism shows up in a lot of internet posts by so-called Independents (i.e. embarassed GOPers) or mainstream GOPers. It isn't Christian Zionism, and its proponents are often quite socially liberal, but are definitely Team America. This confused bunch will go back and forth from militaristic jingoism to accusations or racism for those of us who don't think Arabs or Kurds will ever, as a group, get civics quite right. They strongly identify with the Kurds or whoever our allies du jour are. The Israelis being an ally of long-standing with media clout get more love, but the difference between the love for Israelis and the Kurds is one of degree, not kind. Many less than thoughtful and earnest military guys seem to be susceptible to this type of thinking. They are the poster children for confused America.

    Many of the above named clueless sorts never realize why Egypt or the Palestinians get foreign aid. They never understand that the money sent to Israel's neighbors really counts as aid to Israel and is not an expression of Obama's Muslim love.

    Independent of the Israeli issue, these individuals are much larger obstacles to genuine conservativism in the US than the feminists or Al Sharptons of the world.

    Finally, it would be nice if the alt-right would quit shedding crocodile tears for the Palestinians. Our interest in them shouldn't go beyond condemning grievances towards Christianity committed by Israeli politicians, which could be dealt with by sanctions. You can't win by participating in the game established by liberals which includes gentlemanly hand-wringing over indigenous rights and colonialism. Take a note from Alan Dershowitz, get some chutzpah.

    I think (in addition to AIPAC manipulation, of course) it’s the old bit about facing fearful odds for the ashes of your fathers and the temples of your gods. You don’t really do that in the US Army–it’s an imperialist tool, and the USA is not seriously threatened militarily by any country (though the immivasion may drag our GDP down quite a bit). So they go looking for other threatened groups to defend. You have victimization narratives in the histories of other groups too, though of course they can’t give them quite as much play–there are quite a few movies about the oppressed Irish and Scots, and the Poles have been Central Europe’s punching bag for years. America is full of the descendants of the losers of every major early-modern European power struggle–Irish, Ulster Scots, French Huguenots, German dissenters, Poles, Czechs, and countless others I’ve forgotten.

    • Replies: @anowow
    This loser ancestral memory must have played a huge role in the American empasis on "I'm just as good as you!" It certainly figures in American discourse on genealogy. Nobody brags anymore about relatives coming over with the Conqueror. Nope, it's much cooler to be descended from potato pickers from Galway, if you must be white, that is. If granma was a working gal strolling the docks of Philly or Baltimore after leaving the old sod, so much the better! I'm still waiting for one of those genealogy shows to talk about somebody's ancestory being involved in the rough trade, que the music, soft lighting and discussion of the bravery that must have taken for either party.

    That said, offer an American a European title or an idiot speaking RP and see how quickly they drop the Ah Shucks routinue. This strange mixture of colonial inferiority and hyper-jingoism smacks of the formerly bullied trying to get some respect. It's Nietzche's slave mentality incubated in the minds of John Wayne and [insert name of rapper or evangelist here] then mixed and remixed.

    The misguided warrior impulse is certainly there. Those boys really mean it when they say they are fighting for their brothers in arms, because many of 'em evidently haven't been asking who/whom questions vis-a-vis Centrist/3rd way politics and foreign policy (and I'm not just talking about Israel) or at least not acting on said questions in a significant way. They might not be fighting for conservative values, but they can at least say they are fighting for CONSERVATARIAN values.

    Fine, go fight. Just don't involve my wallet. A hopeful development on this front is the rise of mercenary armies like Eric Prince's neo-Varangian force in the UAE. Let's hope for more of that in the future. Now that might make for some amusing headlines in the future.
  94. @peterike
    Well there are Jews and there are Jews. My nice Jewish lady dentist could get right on board, but she couldn't help much. Ok, she probably votes D out of familial tradition, and maybe she switches to R, but that's one vote in a state that is destined to be D forever and ever.

    On the other hand, there are Jews with gobs of money and influence. You know, the ones who own Hollywood, the Media, the major sports, banking and finance, etc. And these are all utterly wedded to Prog causes and anti-white to the bone, or just plain into debauchery and societal ruin for whatever reason. These are the people we need (and their numerous hench-people who do the groundwork), and precisely the ones we'll never get.

    The Right could flip 80% of Jews and it would mean nothing. It's that 20% that make all the difference, and they will keep on wrecking even when the unwashed hordes wash up on their doorstep. You know, they can't really help it. And no intellectual argument can ever sway then as much as an inch.

    Not true. Bill Kristol, for one, has moved right on amnesty and used his power to help defeat it. There are other Jewish anti-amnesty people out there. Not enough yet, but the times are changing. Increased turd world immigration is not good for Americans, including Jewish Americans.

    • Replies: @SFG
    David Frum and Mickey Kaus come to mind. Still not enough though...

    One interesting thing is that they both wrote in liberal venues (the Atlantic, Slate), which might allow immigration-restrictionist views to reach a wider audience.
    , @john smith
    He will change his tune when he needs more bodies for middle eastern adventures. Either Americans will get tired for fighting wars for nebulous goals or they will be used up, and then we will see a new found appreciations for Latin Americans among the chattering class.
  95. @Joe Walker
    Remember that Jews did not (for the most part) arrive from the shtetl as East Coast Liberals – they learned this from WASP social reformers

    Next you will be saying that the English turned Karl Marx into a communist. Jews have generally embraced the left because they have seen that the most effective way to undermine white gentile populations is through left wing policies.

    Yes, that’s right. Every morning I wake up and I think to myself, “How can I undermine white gentiles today?”. Spreading plague, poisoning the wells and baking gentile children into matza seem too old school, so I just go with left wing politics.

    • Replies: @SFG
    I'm sure *you* don't, but you have to admit there have been an awful lot of left-wing Jews advocating for anti-racism.

    I imagine they're probably trying to protect themselves from some white Christian return of the Nazis rather than destroy Western Civ, but still...
  96. @SFG
    I think (in addition to AIPAC manipulation, of course) it's the old bit about facing fearful odds for the ashes of your fathers and the temples of your gods. You don't really do that in the US Army--it's an imperialist tool, and the USA is not seriously threatened militarily by any country (though the immivasion may drag our GDP down quite a bit). So they go looking for other threatened groups to defend. You have victimization narratives in the histories of other groups too, though of course they can't give them quite as much play--there are quite a few movies about the oppressed Irish and Scots, and the Poles have been Central Europe's punching bag for years. America is full of the descendants of the losers of every major early-modern European power struggle--Irish, Ulster Scots, French Huguenots, German dissenters, Poles, Czechs, and countless others I've forgotten.

    This loser ancestral memory must have played a huge role in the American empasis on “I’m just as good as you!” It certainly figures in American discourse on genealogy. Nobody brags anymore about relatives coming over with the Conqueror. Nope, it’s much cooler to be descended from potato pickers from Galway, if you must be white, that is. If granma was a working gal strolling the docks of Philly or Baltimore after leaving the old sod, so much the better! I’m still waiting for one of those genealogy shows to talk about somebody’s ancestory being involved in the rough trade, que the music, soft lighting and discussion of the bravery that must have taken for either party.

    That said, offer an American a European title or an idiot speaking RP and see how quickly they drop the Ah Shucks routinue. This strange mixture of colonial inferiority and hyper-jingoism smacks of the formerly bullied trying to get some respect. It’s Nietzche’s slave mentality incubated in the minds of John Wayne and [insert name of rapper or evangelist here] then mixed and remixed.

    The misguided warrior impulse is certainly there. Those boys really mean it when they say they are fighting for their brothers in arms, because many of ’em evidently haven’t been asking who/whom questions vis-a-vis Centrist/3rd way politics and foreign policy (and I’m not just talking about Israel) or at least not acting on said questions in a significant way. They might not be fighting for conservative values, but they can at least say they are fighting for CONSERVATARIAN values.

    Fine, go fight. Just don’t involve my wallet. A hopeful development on this front is the rise of mercenary armies like Eric Prince’s neo-Varangian force in the UAE. Let’s hope for more of that in the future. Now that might make for some amusing headlines in the future.

  97. @D. Zirus

    Dallas police arrested a teenager in last week’s fatal shooting of an Iraqi immigrant who was gunned down while taking pictures of his first snowfall, officials said on Friday.

    Police said they do not see the killing as a hate crime.
     
    Teenager? Uh, oh. They didn't say the race or gender, so let the reader assume it is ...

    That assumption would seem to be accurate. The arrestee’s name is Nykerion Nealon. For those who gotta have pix:

    Dallas Police Arrest Suspect in Case of Iraqi Man Killed While Photographing Snow

    • Replies: @Jack D
    I dunno. The invented name is most often found among blacks but Nykerion sound sort of science-fictiony instead of faux-African. Is it supposed to sound like Nigerian? Is he named in honor of Nike sneakers? I rate this a fail among invented names.

    Nykerion's nickname is "Kaca" , which seems appropriate because he is a POS. Usually, nicknames are contractions of your full name, so I expect that in prison the white inmates will call him Nyker (or something like that).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2993401/Police-arrest-suspect-murder-Iraqi-newlywed-Ahmed-Al-Jumaili-36-shot-dead-Dallas-just-three-weeks-arriving-U-S.html

    Then again his ancestors have probably been here for hundreds of years, unlike Ahmed, so I judge Nykerion to be the better man.

  98. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast
    And if there's anyone who'd know what he was talking about on that matter It'd be Bertrand Russell. England is a funny place because there are prominent people who I say can be justly lumped together under the "Jews, Protestants and Freemasons" label and those who can't. The Wedgewood-Benn family is definitely WASPy in that way. I'd even say a case could be made that Julian Huxley was a WASP while his brother Aldous Huxley was not but I think I'm getting a bit too cute. If I go down that path I'll be trying to figure out which of the Mitford Sisters were WASPs and which weren't.

    My impression is that you use WASP in the same way that I would use “Jews, Protestants, and Freemasons”. If I am right then only Jessica was a WASP, and the rest were splendidly on the Right side, except perhaps poor Nancy, who emoted to the Left but actually lived very much to the Right (how else could she have got along so well with Evelyn Waugh?).
    The Rightest of them all was not one of the sisters (although the sublime Diana was a shining star, no, a resplendent sun of Rightness) but Tom, the brother and heir. He was so far sighted as to have understood that the war against Germany was a racial and civilisational crime of unparalleled stupidity; one with which he would have nothing to do. Alas, the Japanese killed him just as the war was ending.
    The bitter truth is that it is Jessica who has won out in the end, and there is no turning back.

  99. @Jack D
    Yes, that's right. Every morning I wake up and I think to myself, "How can I undermine white gentiles today?". Spreading plague, poisoning the wells and baking gentile children into matza seem too old school, so I just go with left wing politics.

    I’m sure *you* don’t, but you have to admit there have been an awful lot of left-wing Jews advocating for anti-racism.

    I imagine they’re probably trying to protect themselves from some white Christian return of the Nazis rather than destroy Western Civ, but still…

  100. @Marty T
    Not true. Bill Kristol, for one, has moved right on amnesty and used his power to help defeat it. There are other Jewish anti-amnesty people out there. Not enough yet, but the times are changing. Increased turd world immigration is not good for Americans, including Jewish Americans.

    David Frum and Mickey Kaus come to mind. Still not enough though…

    One interesting thing is that they both wrote in liberal venues (the Atlantic, Slate), which might allow immigration-restrictionist views to reach a wider audience.

  101. @Anonymous
    John Derbyshire had a great comment about the role Jews would necessarily play in any race realism awakening:

    “no social movement in the West will get anywhere unless it can recruit some smart Jews. Jews are the word people par excellence. To publicize, convert, propagandize, and litigate, you need Jews.”


    What a pathetic excuse for a man is this Derbyshire.

    What a pathetic excuse for a man is this Derbyshire.

    You presume to discuss who is and isn’t a real man? You denigrate him while hiding behind the anonymity of email, while he stands by his principles publicly, without apology, and has paid the paid the price for doing so. By the standards most of us respect, Derbyshire is a very fine man indeed, while you’re just another pathetic nonentity.

    • Replies: @Joe Walker
    So what if Derbyshire stands by his principles publicly? So do many neocons and communists. Should we admire them too?
  102. @CJ
    That assumption would seem to be accurate. The arrestee's name is Nykerion Nealon. For those who gotta have pix:

    Dallas Police Arrest Suspect in Case of Iraqi Man Killed While Photographing Snow

    I dunno. The invented name is most often found among blacks but Nykerion sound sort of science-fictiony instead of faux-African. Is it supposed to sound like Nigerian? Is he named in honor of Nike sneakers? I rate this a fail among invented names.

    Nykerion’s nickname is “Kaca” , which seems appropriate because he is a POS. Usually, nicknames are contractions of your full name, so I expect that in prison the white inmates will call him Nyker (or something like that).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2993401/Police-arrest-suspect-murder-Iraqi-newlywed-Ahmed-Al-Jumaili-36-shot-dead-Dallas-just-three-weeks-arriving-U-S.html

    Then again his ancestors have probably been here for hundreds of years, unlike Ahmed, so I judge Nykerion to be the better man.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I rate this a fail among invented names.
     
    Nykerion doesn't meet your criterion?
  103. @Jack D
    I dunno. The invented name is most often found among blacks but Nykerion sound sort of science-fictiony instead of faux-African. Is it supposed to sound like Nigerian? Is he named in honor of Nike sneakers? I rate this a fail among invented names.

    Nykerion's nickname is "Kaca" , which seems appropriate because he is a POS. Usually, nicknames are contractions of your full name, so I expect that in prison the white inmates will call him Nyker (or something like that).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2993401/Police-arrest-suspect-murder-Iraqi-newlywed-Ahmed-Al-Jumaili-36-shot-dead-Dallas-just-three-weeks-arriving-U-S.html

    Then again his ancestors have probably been here for hundreds of years, unlike Ahmed, so I judge Nykerion to be the better man.

    I rate this a fail among invented names.

    Nykerion doesn’t meet your criterion?

  104. @Joe Walker
    I just thought of another bond between Jews and Protestants: both groups were excluded from full civil rights in France until the Revolution

    I think most WASPs are of English, not French, ancestry.

    French Protestants settled in Charleston SC and were a mainstay of the elite there.

    • Replies: @Joe Walker
    But French Protestants are not WASPs are they? Just as Irish Catholics are not Italian Catholics.
  105. @Hibernian
    French Protestants settled in Charleston SC and were a mainstay of the elite there.

    But French Protestants are not WASPs are they? Just as Irish Catholics are not Italian Catholics.

  106. @Harry Baldwin
    What a pathetic excuse for a man is this Derbyshire.

    You presume to discuss who is and isn't a real man? You denigrate him while hiding behind the anonymity of email, while he stands by his principles publicly, without apology, and has paid the paid the price for doing so. By the standards most of us respect, Derbyshire is a very fine man indeed, while you're just another pathetic nonentity.

    So what if Derbyshire stands by his principles publicly? So do many neocons and communists. Should we admire them too?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    You don't have to admire anyone you don't want to. But only a real douche would call Derbyshire "a pathetic excuse for a man." Derbyshire behaves as a man should behave, with honor and courage, and you should be able to acknowledge that whether or not agree you agree with his views.

    BTW, I agree with you that many communists do stand by their principles and are willing to die for them, and for that I can respect them as men even if they are our enemies. But can you imagine a neocon standing behind a principle that would hurt his career?
  107. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    San Francisco cops come under fire for racist and homophobic remarks.

  108. @Joe Walker
    So what if Derbyshire stands by his principles publicly? So do many neocons and communists. Should we admire them too?

    You don’t have to admire anyone you don’t want to. But only a real douche would call Derbyshire “a pathetic excuse for a man.” Derbyshire behaves as a man should behave, with honor and courage, and you should be able to acknowledge that whether or not agree you agree with his views.

    BTW, I agree with you that many communists do stand by their principles and are willing to die for them, and for that I can respect them as men even if they are our enemies. But can you imagine a neocon standing behind a principle that would hurt his career?

  109. @Marty T
    Not true. Bill Kristol, for one, has moved right on amnesty and used his power to help defeat it. There are other Jewish anti-amnesty people out there. Not enough yet, but the times are changing. Increased turd world immigration is not good for Americans, including Jewish Americans.

    He will change his tune when he needs more bodies for middle eastern adventures. Either Americans will get tired for fighting wars for nebulous goals or they will be used up, and then we will see a new found appreciations for Latin Americans among the chattering class.

  110. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    James Kirchik the Masha-Gessen-like homo freak who war-mongers against Russia is a ‘centrist’?

    With centrists like that, who needs…

  111. I don’t see anything new here.

    In my experience in the Northeast and California, Jews tend to be of a rebellious nature. Whatever is in power or fashion in a western/white society, they do the opposite.

    When conservative white men were in power in the US (1950-1970s) Jews imported Stalinist and Maoist rebellion, with a thick dollop of sexual decadence, and widely propagandized it.

    Now that the left is the Establishment, they are bound to go the other way.

    The point is to create, and exploit, tension, dissent, and distraction. Non-Jews are fools for falling for this…but perpetually do. Though every so many centuries, they get sick of it and drive Jews from their midst, which offers the third strand of the Jewish uber-narrative braid: pogrom/holocaust.

    “Left” and “right” are inventions of this cabal. We would do best to do what we do best–which is stay focused on practical things. Personally, I wouldn’t grieve to see them ALL in Israel…and thought that that was the whole point of the Balfour Declaration. Give the Near Easterners somewhere to go have their theocracies and holy wars, and leave the Ice People in peace.

    I think a lot about Jacques Derrida, the African Sephardic Jewish Frenchman whose resentment of white French society was so strong, he invented deconstruction. Which is a mess of babble that boils down to “resentful of that which you cannot be.” I think there was a Jewish commandment or three against that, involving covetousness.

  112. Wally [AKA "BobbyBeGood"] says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    I really don't know about this one.
    Once gentile white men - the real target of the 'victim hood coalition', white women are a major part of that coalition, have been effectively neutralised, then what do you have left? Mostly a whole gaggle of low IQ groups who would never ever be able to organise an effective political counter attack to get over their serf-status - has any such movement gained traction in Brazil or Mexico, where the elites are largely of semitic origin?, and the broad, no noun intended, gaggle of white women, who might shout and whine a lot, but who will never but never organise a hard line political movement with the uncompromising toughness needed to overturn things. So on balance, my take is that such an outcome, which seems well high inevitable now, will in fact be a dream scenario for American Jews.
    What of white men? You might ask. Well, in these end of times, white gentile men have more or less lost their natural self-confindence in the natural role as the leaders and not the followers. Century's worth of niggling underhand attacks, water eroding granite, culminating in Kennedy/Johnson. The loss of confidence is equivalent to a collective nervous breakdown and the Nietzschean definition of collective societal madness. Something tells me that this sickness is chronic and terminal.

    “What of white men? You might ask. Well, in these end of times, white gentile men have more or less lost their natural self-confindence in the natural role as the leaders and not the followers. Century’s worth of niggling underhand attacks, water eroding granite, culminating in Kennedy/Johnson. The loss of confidence is equivalent to a collective nervous breakdown and the Nietzschean definition of collective societal madness. Something tells me that this sickness is chronic and terminal.”

    Then who will pay the bills?

  113. @Anonymous
    Hollande threw the Jews under the bus in France to appease Muzzies, Sweden isn't much better. Germany and Britain, it's just a matter of a few years before their Jews get the bus treatment as their Muslim population swells.

    Here's the thing, the political class knows the Jews are on their way out and the Muzzies are the next great thing. So do you either build your party around a group that's quite small, gutless and rich or a growing, violent and powerful demographic who basically see Jews as bullet pinatas.

    But the Jews aren't going to be giving up their liberal and anti-goy ways anytime soon. They didn't in France, Sweden and certainly won't even as they become targets for beatings and killings in London and Berlin. They got a mad on towards the West, Whites and it won't stop.

    But Islam won't stop with Europe. The U.S. is already infected with Islam in both parties starting at the top with the Bushes, Clintons and Obama. The tentacles of the MB reach into both parties and into the government security apparatus as well. It's not real bad yet, but give them another 4 to 6 years. Shariah compliant will a word a lot of people will be getting to know.

    “The U.S. is already infected with Islam in both parties starting at the top with the Bushes, Clintons and Obama”

    Are you really that stupid, or is it just blind hatred which is making you spew such nonsense?

    Anyway, may you stew in your hatred, while your brain rots away, you vile thing.

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