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From WNYT news in Albany, NY:

Survey grading kids’ ‘privilege’ status outrages Saratoga Springs parents

February 15, 2019 11:11 PM

SARATOGA SPRINGS – A class exercise in Saratoga Springs gets a failing grade from some parents in the district. It asked students at the high school to score their privileged status. …

The way it works is there are different topics. You get “points” for how you answer each topic. For example, in the “Religion” category, if you’re Jewish, you get 25 points. If you’re Christian, you get just five points.

There’s also a category called “Attractiveness.” If you have an attractive face, you get 10 points, but if you have an ugly face, you get -20 points.

… In the “Race” category, if you’re White, you get 25 points. If you’re Latino, you get -50 points.

If your points add up to more than 50, you are privileged, but if they add up to less than 50, you are very disprivileged.

… The district says this survey allows students to have a conversation, examine their background and to recognize the value and difference of others.

 
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  1. Oh oh. The Most Oppressed People Ever aren’t going to like that +25.

    • Agree: Roderick Spode, L Woods
    • Replies: @guest
    My first thought when I found out points were bad is that this Saratoga Springs school district is basically running a second holocaust.

    One never can tell where or when Jewish privilege can be recognized. Here, I assume they view Jews as white people with funny hats.
    , @Roderick Spode
    Truly surprised by this aspect of the metric
    , @bored identity
    It's not so simple.

    Barbra Streisand still manages to qualify as underprivileged


    http://www.darkcrystal.com/images/gallery_images/DC_Mystics_DCP122.jpg
    , @BenKenobi
    Almost, but not entirely quite, woke.

    I’m reminded of a story out of North Korea some years ago.

    I couldn’t dig it up but a regime propagandist of some sort made a film in which there was a scene where (if I recall correctly) Kim Il-Sung gives Jong-il a revolver with 7 bullets, each bullet a metaphor for something like “Victory to the revolution” or “defeat of America” — but one of the bullets was deemed offensive/heretical and he had to flee the country.

    Whoever wrote this is lucky we’re not at that point... yet.
  2. “Retarded”? Why not just say “window licker”?

    Is this a spoof?

    Saratoga. Hmmm. Are those geldings at the track really 75 points more privileged than the fillies? Or do they count as “trans”?

    An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga, and his brother too. One wonders why, now.

    • Replies: @guest
    "An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga"

    So did Benedict Arnold! Ahead of the curve?
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Reg, I took my wife and we drove to Saratoga Spring in the fall and stayed a couple of nights. The Adirondaks are a great place to visit. Don't know about this survey, didn't spend enough time to get a feel for the populous. Wish people would stop with the privilege crap. I saw few people who weren't white. As an aside, how many jockeys at the track are not hispanic?
    , @Clifford Brown

    An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga, and his brother too. One wonders why, now.
     
    Saratoga Springs National Historic Park provides an exhaustive survey of the Battles of Saratoga. You can walk though the various battle positions although there is little evidence of the battle today. The presentation really captures the critical role that topography played in the battles.

    Saratoga Springs is a gem of a 19th Century American small town. Saratoga Springs would not score many diversity points.
    , @Alfa158
    The use of the word retarded suggests it was a hoax. Any Aware Educator would no more use that than they would use Black instead of African-American, or Latino instead of Latinx.
    Oh wait, they used those too.
    Ok, a hoax.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga, and his brother too.
     
    Punch-up over the ponies?
  3. Beyond any white genocide angle, this exercise is super judgemental.

    If you are new here, the point is to instill guilt in the high IQ whites from an early age and instill grievance in the low IQ browns.

    In current year, a smart ass like me would have had a field day in school.

    Is the pic the actual survey? The fucking teacher wrote “retarded” and ‘passable’ trans.

  4. @Thomas
    Oh oh. The Most Oppressed People Ever aren't going to like that +25.

    My first thought when I found out points were bad is that this Saratoga Springs school district is basically running a second holocaust.

    One never can tell where or when Jewish privilege can be recognized. Here, I assume they view Jews as white people with funny hats.

  5. @Reg Cæsar
    "Retarded"? Why not just say "window licker"?

    Is this a spoof?

    Saratoga. Hmmm. Are those geldings at the track really 75 points more privileged than the fillies? Or do they count as "trans"?

    An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga, and his brother too. One wonders why, now.

    “An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga”

    So did Benedict Arnold! Ahead of the curve?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    So did Benedict Arnold! Ahead of the curve?
     
    Hey, Benedict at his worst is preferable to most of today's elected officials. He didn't betray his race or religion or ethnic group or language or legal tradition or...
  6. Stupid ancestors!

  7. No credit for having a proclivity for deviant sexual practices? Or a boy who thinks he is a girl? This list is going to have to be revised.

    I say we put our very own Tiny Duck in charge.

  8. Being asexual gets you zero points. “So true” as Trump says.

  9. What’s so bad about eastern Europe that they had to blot it out?

  10. Jews are +25, 5x Christians.

  11. @Thomas
    Oh oh. The Most Oppressed People Ever aren't going to like that +25.

    Truly surprised by this aspect of the metric

  12. It appears the Jews aren’t fooling anyone over at the coalition of the fringes. Maybe they aren’t all bad after all?

  13. A survey which any sane person will subvert.

    “Paraplegic, black, B’hai, transgender…”

    “But Eric, you look so normal.”

    “Inside? I’m oppressed.” (Quivering lips, fighting back tears, being brave)

    • LOL: Buffalo Joe
  14. Saratoga one of the best towns-cities in America….I can assure you that the Utica Bosnians already have cast their gaze towards the Land of Milk and Honey up along the Mohawk River towards Saratoga for Colonization….Hindu Funeral Pyres comming soon to the bucolic Hudson River……..

    Something terrible…very terrible has happened to America…3 billion majority nonwhite toilet…it’s comming….

  15. 500 for trans -> kings of the world baby!

  16. @Reg Cæsar
    "Retarded"? Why not just say "window licker"?

    Is this a spoof?

    Saratoga. Hmmm. Are those geldings at the track really 75 points more privileged than the fillies? Or do they count as "trans"?

    An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga, and his brother too. One wonders why, now.

    Reg, I took my wife and we drove to Saratoga Spring in the fall and stayed a couple of nights. The Adirondaks are a great place to visit. Don’t know about this survey, didn’t spend enough time to get a feel for the populous. Wish people would stop with the privilege crap. I saw few people who weren’t white. As an aside, how many jockeys at the track are not hispanic?

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Why aren't there more Samoan jockeys?
  17. Anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:

    I think this became a problem because Jews didn’t get the necessary points.

  18. Jews got +25 Christians got +5.

  19. I love it when we have a “conversation.”

    The use of the word “conversation” is like the use of the word “problematic.” It has no meaning at all, but you use it the way an attacker uses a ladder to cross your concertina wire–you lay it down fast, run over that little obstacle, pick it back up and lay it on the next obstacle–it gets you in, and that’s all that really matters.

    • Replies: @Stephen Paul Foster
    Yeah, "conversation" is a marker for high condescension to spot enforcers of the party-line. Decoded, it means, "we, 'the enlightened,' get to scold the rubes when they complain about getting screwed by the ruling class.

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2013/08/let-hundred-conversations-bloom.html
  20. The district says this survey allows students to have a conversation

    They have a point. You’re not allowed to ‘have a conversation’ anymore in this country until after your Wokemon Points have been tallied.

    That bit about points for being white, though? Shows they’re full of BS.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Wokemon Points

    Did you make that up?

    , @Forbes
    Wokemon points. Excellent!
  21. @Reg Cæsar
    "Retarded"? Why not just say "window licker"?

    Is this a spoof?

    Saratoga. Hmmm. Are those geldings at the track really 75 points more privileged than the fillies? Or do they count as "trans"?

    An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga, and his brother too. One wonders why, now.

    An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga, and his brother too. One wonders why, now.

    Saratoga Springs National Historic Park provides an exhaustive survey of the Battles of Saratoga. You can walk though the various battle positions although there is little evidence of the battle today. The presentation really captures the critical role that topography played in the battles.

    Saratoga Springs is a gem of a 19th Century American small town. Saratoga Springs would not score many diversity points.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Cliff, Drove all around the area up through Lake George and farther north, pretty white. Maybe diverse temp workers when track is open. Nice country. Oh, and the Adirondak Perserve, six million acres, borders Vermont, try this survey there.
    , @Forbes
    I would never contradict Buffalo Joe on Upstate New York, but Saratoga Springs is a big Yuppieville attraction--Vermont with money and without the dairy farms. Expensive, shitty apartments for all the kewl kidz--and million dollar condos for the Albany Capitol crowd. (Government pays extremely well in NYS.)

    It has old gracious Victorian homes, the race track and a revolutionary history that is a tourist draw. BTW, the horse racing season will open three weeks earlier than usual, but with the same number of racing days, due to construction at Belmont Park for the new NHL Islanders arena.
  22. @Reg Cæsar
    "Retarded"? Why not just say "window licker"?

    Is this a spoof?

    Saratoga. Hmmm. Are those geldings at the track really 75 points more privileged than the fillies? Or do they count as "trans"?

    An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga, and his brother too. One wonders why, now.

    The use of the word retarded suggests it was a hoax. Any Aware Educator would no more use that than they would use Black instead of African-American, or Latino instead of Latinx.
    Oh wait, they used those too.
    Ok, a hoax.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Not a hoax. The district issued a non-apology for some of the terminology, but doesn't deny it's an official questionnaire.


    The gratuitousness of this is what gets you. And the absolute absence of any public demand for it. This is pure education professor rubbish.
  23. @Buffalo Joe
    Reg, I took my wife and we drove to Saratoga Spring in the fall and stayed a couple of nights. The Adirondaks are a great place to visit. Don't know about this survey, didn't spend enough time to get a feel for the populous. Wish people would stop with the privilege crap. I saw few people who weren't white. As an aside, how many jockeys at the track are not hispanic?

    Why aren’t there more Samoan jockeys?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Cagey, the hispanic jockeys could ride the Samoans.
  24. @Mr McKenna

    The district says this survey allows students to have a conversation
     
    They have a point. You're not allowed to 'have a conversation' anymore in this country until after your Wokemon Points have been tallied.

    That bit about points for being white, though? Shows they're full of BS.

    Wokemon Points

    Did you make that up?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    That’s a good one.
    , @bored identity
    There, bored identity fixed it:


    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/079/173/ed2.png
    , @Mr McKenna
    I think I read it here, didn't I? Is it like a secret handshake?
    , @res
    I used it (after reading it from someone else here) March 2: http://www.unz.com/isteve/jussie-smolletts-defense-tar-nigerian-bodybuilder-bros-as-homophobic/#comment-3070381

    But the earliest reference I see on unz.com was February 21: http://www.unz.com/isteve/my-pioneering-2004-hate-hoax-article/#comment-3053512

    Note your response to that one:

    Wokemon Points is pretty good. I may steal that.
     
    Here is a reference from April 12, 2018: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/how-to-tell-if-your-baby-is-trans/#comment-8471403

    Any earlier usages?
  25. @Thomas
    Oh oh. The Most Oppressed People Ever aren't going to like that +25.

    It’s not so simple.

    Barbra Streisand still manages to qualify as underprivileged

    • LOL: TWS
  26. The +25 for being Jewish is hilarious. But the +10 for being “trans (passable)” versus -500 for just being “trans” … huh? Passing trans privilege is a thing now? I do remember some complaints about Caitlyn Jenner not understanding the struggle of transwomen of color who can’t spend millions of dollars making themselves look more feminine.

    The survey writer must be a non-passing Palestinian transwoman.

    • Replies: @bored identity



    "...of transwomen of color who can’t spend millions of dollars making themselves look more feminine."

     

    What If Money Was No Object?

    https://therealdeal.com/chicago/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/1200-gold-coast-650x405.jpg
  27. This must be satire. A blind person scores lower than a retard?

  28. @Cagey Beast
    Why aren't there more Samoan jockeys?

    Cagey, the hispanic jockeys could ride the Samoans.

  29. @Clifford Brown

    An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga, and his brother too. One wonders why, now.
     
    Saratoga Springs National Historic Park provides an exhaustive survey of the Battles of Saratoga. You can walk though the various battle positions although there is little evidence of the battle today. The presentation really captures the critical role that topography played in the battles.

    Saratoga Springs is a gem of a 19th Century American small town. Saratoga Springs would not score many diversity points.

    Cliff, Drove all around the area up through Lake George and farther north, pretty white. Maybe diverse temp workers when track is open. Nice country. Oh, and the Adirondak Perserve, six million acres, borders Vermont, try this survey there.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    I love the Adirondacks. There are some really priceless hokey throwback attractions from another era of our country. The place feels like a time machine in a good way. The fact that they still sell Lake Placid Olympics memorabilia is always a surprise. Thanks to FDR you can drive to the top of Whiteface Mountain and see all the way to Montreal. Nice to hear Canadian French in the United States.

    On the downside, too many mosquitos and it gets cold real fast in that neck of the woods. John Brown, America's original antifa, has a historic home and burial site in the Adirondacks. John Brown was a prescient fellow.

    https://parks.ny.gov/historic-sites/29/details.aspx
  30. @Steve Sailer
    Wokemon Points

    Did you make that up?

    That’s a good one.

  31. @Steve Sailer
    Wokemon Points

    Did you make that up?

    There, bored identity fixed it:

  32. @Steve Sailer
    Wokemon Points

    Did you make that up?

    I think I read it here, didn’t I? Is it like a secret handshake?

  33. @Thomas
    Oh oh. The Most Oppressed People Ever aren't going to like that +25.

    Almost, but not entirely quite, woke.

    I’m reminded of a story out of North Korea some years ago.

    I couldn’t dig it up but a regime propagandist of some sort made a film in which there was a scene where (if I recall correctly) Kim Il-Sung gives Jong-il a revolver with 7 bullets, each bullet a metaphor for something like “Victory to the revolution” or “defeat of America” — but one of the bullets was deemed offensive/heretical and he had to flee the country.

    Whoever wrote this is lucky we’re not at that point… yet.

  34. You walked into the party…

  35. I hit 110 before my MS knocked me down to 60.

  36. What ever happened to astrology, EST, gurus and other such clap trap? At least that was entertaining, this is too stupid to be interesting at all.

  37. A rich White able bodied Jewish male investment banker is the most privileged person in the country? Sounds about right.

  38. The otherkin get no recognition as usual.

    Do they have a histogram with all the results and is it a bell-shaped distribution?

    Aren’t girls privileged over boys in the Sarasota Springs educational system? I thought this was countrywide.

  39. “Europe (meh)” being a category and the UK being under it has me in stitches. And it’s also kind of true, maybe the loony left is onto something.

  40. Considering Saratoga’s self-identifying population is less than 0.5%, I’m surprised anyone privileged enough to care even noticed in numbers that might make a difference; must be the 95% self-hating whites.

  41. @Buffalo Joe
    Cliff, Drove all around the area up through Lake George and farther north, pretty white. Maybe diverse temp workers when track is open. Nice country. Oh, and the Adirondak Perserve, six million acres, borders Vermont, try this survey there.

    I love the Adirondacks. There are some really priceless hokey throwback attractions from another era of our country. The place feels like a time machine in a good way. The fact that they still sell Lake Placid Olympics memorabilia is always a surprise. Thanks to FDR you can drive to the top of Whiteface Mountain and see all the way to Montreal. Nice to hear Canadian French in the United States.

    On the downside, too many mosquitos and it gets cold real fast in that neck of the woods. John Brown, America’s original antifa, has a historic home and burial site in the Adirondacks. John Brown was a prescient fellow.

    https://parks.ny.gov/historic-sites/29/details.aspx

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks to FDR you can drive to the top of Whiteface Mountain and see all the way to Montreal.
     
    Thanks to town meeting, where they hated FDR and all his Neuschwanstein plans, you can't do that anywhere in Vermont.

    Town meeting must be the difference, because there was no love lost in the Adirondacks for the Worst Upstater Ever, either. The exceptions in both places were Frogs:

    http://geoelections.free.fr/USA/comtes/1936.png

    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    Dude, the mosquitos are nothing. Wait 'til an Adirondack black fly saws a hunk of flesh out of you, and then you will know an evil insect.

    I spent three summers in a small boys' camp in the Adirondacks (Upper Saranac Lake), and they were some of the best times of my youth. Climbing all of the 46 high peaks (4000' plus), canoeing with portages. The best. Except for those black flies.
  42. Middle East, —600

    Whoa, @nntaleb, that’s 400 points more disadvantaged than Retarded, —200. Add Short Male, —400 (not shown) and you’re in the 1000 Pound Club carrying that weight.

  43. @Reg Cæsar
    "Retarded"? Why not just say "window licker"?

    Is this a spoof?

    Saratoga. Hmmm. Are those geldings at the track really 75 points more privileged than the fillies? Or do they count as "trans"?

    An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga, and his brother too. One wonders why, now.

    An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga, and his brother too.

    Punch-up over the ponies?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    They get off at Saratoga for the fourteenth time...



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oNsYpuuJEk
  44. As people mention with “retarded” indicating it is a hoax, the financial status scales are sloppy, too. There are caps in the income ranges: Rich appears to be “> $1,000,000/.yr” while the step below, Affluent, is “$100k – $250k/yr.”Apparently if you earn between $250k and $1 million, you just don’t count. Same between Middle and Affluent, with Middle topping out at $45k — people earning between $45k and $100k just don’t count.

    The country of origin list seems really strange, too. It doesn’t use common regional identifiers and the very fine subdivisions of European origin are strange — it’s been decades since any White was treated notably differently because his origin was Polish, Irish, German, Italian, etc.

    The idea that simply being a woman puts you 75 privilege points below a man is ludicrous, especially in today’s female-centered educational environments.

    This is childishly sloppy. I’d think it was a hoax, too, but statements by “the district” in the article indicate that the school district admits to distributing it. The fact that no district spokesman is identified is suspicious, though.

    I’m torn between really stupid journalist got hoaxed and really stupid teachers built the survey. Neither profession is known for intelligence.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    As SJWism filters its way down the population distribution you'll see more things like this. With Ed School being a primary disease vector they'll often appear incompetent.
    , @Forbes
    Stupid ignorant country-bumkin unsophisticated non-cosmopolitan teachers the likely culprit.
  45. @larry lurker
    The +25 for being Jewish is hilarious. But the +10 for being "trans (passable)" versus -500 for just being "trans" ... huh? Passing trans privilege is a thing now? I do remember some complaints about Caitlyn Jenner not understanding the struggle of transwomen of color who can't spend millions of dollars making themselves look more feminine.

    The survey writer must be a non-passing Palestinian transwoman.

    “…of transwomen of color who can’t spend millions of dollars making themselves look more feminine.”

    What If Money Was No Object?

    • LOL: Liza, Dtbb
  46. The funnest part of this exercise was surely having high school students discuss one another’s degree of attractiveness/uglytude.

  47. Anon[679] • Disclaimer says:

    Some of this is just nosy teachers wanting to find out what they can about the family/background of the kids they teach so they can gossip about it. This has never changed. Teachers have been like this for generations, and they have always probed for private details about their pupils. Wanting to know about your pupils’ sexual orientation? Wanting to know how much their families make? It’s none of their business to ask. The teachers are just being nosy.

  48. @Steve Sailer
    Wokemon Points

    Did you make that up?

    I used it (after reading it from someone else here) March 2: http://www.unz.com/isteve/jussie-smolletts-defense-tar-nigerian-bodybuilder-bros-as-homophobic/#comment-3070381

    But the earliest reference I see on unz.com was February 21: http://www.unz.com/isteve/my-pioneering-2004-hate-hoax-article/#comment-3053512

    Note your response to that one:

    Wokemon Points is pretty good. I may steal that.

    Here is a reference from April 12, 2018: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/how-to-tell-if-your-baby-is-trans/#comment-8471403

    Any earlier usages?

  49. @guest
    "An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga"

    So did Benedict Arnold! Ahead of the curve?

    So did Benedict Arnold! Ahead of the curve?

    Hey, Benedict at his worst is preferable to most of today’s elected officials. He didn’t betray his race or religion or ethnic group or language or legal tradition or…

  50. @Cloudbuster
    As people mention with "retarded" indicating it is a hoax, the financial status scales are sloppy, too. There are caps in the income ranges: Rich appears to be "> $1,000,000/.yr" while the step below, Affluent, is "$100k - $250k/yr."Apparently if you earn between $250k and $1 million, you just don't count. Same between Middle and Affluent, with Middle topping out at $45k -- people earning between $45k and $100k just don't count.

    The country of origin list seems really strange, too. It doesn't use common regional identifiers and the very fine subdivisions of European origin are strange -- it's been decades since any White was treated notably differently because his origin was Polish, Irish, German, Italian, etc.

    The idea that simply being a woman puts you 75 privilege points below a man is ludicrous, especially in today's female-centered educational environments.

    This is childishly sloppy. I'd think it was a hoax, too, but statements by "the district" in the article indicate that the school district admits to distributing it. The fact that no district spokesman is identified is suspicious, though.

    I'm torn between really stupid journalist got hoaxed and really stupid teachers built the survey. Neither profession is known for intelligence.

    As SJWism filters its way down the population distribution you’ll see more things like this. With Ed School being a primary disease vector they’ll often appear incompetent.

  51. @Clifford Brown
    I love the Adirondacks. There are some really priceless hokey throwback attractions from another era of our country. The place feels like a time machine in a good way. The fact that they still sell Lake Placid Olympics memorabilia is always a surprise. Thanks to FDR you can drive to the top of Whiteface Mountain and see all the way to Montreal. Nice to hear Canadian French in the United States.

    On the downside, too many mosquitos and it gets cold real fast in that neck of the woods. John Brown, America's original antifa, has a historic home and burial site in the Adirondacks. John Brown was a prescient fellow.

    https://parks.ny.gov/historic-sites/29/details.aspx

    Thanks to FDR you can drive to the top of Whiteface Mountain and see all the way to Montreal.

    Thanks to town meeting, where they hated FDR and all his Neuschwanstein plans, you can’t do that anywhere in Vermont.

    Town meeting must be the difference, because there was no love lost in the Adirondacks for the Worst Upstater Ever, either. The exceptions in both places were Frogs:

  52. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga, and his brother too.
     
    Punch-up over the ponies?

    They get off at Saratoga for the fourteenth time…

  53. If my math is correct, Oprah (black, woman, presumed lesbian, able bodied, multibillionaire) is being oppressed by those over privileged, straight, white, homeless, paraplegic men. She clearly deserves reparations.
    And a plaque.

  54. @Tim
    I love it when we have a "conversation."

    The use of the word "conversation" is like the use of the word "problematic." It has no meaning at all, but you use it the way an attacker uses a ladder to cross your concertina wire--you lay it down fast, run over that little obstacle, pick it back up and lay it on the next obstacle--it gets you in, and that's all that really matters.

    Yeah, “conversation” is a marker for high condescension to spot enforcers of the party-line. Decoded, it means, “we, ‘the enlightened,’ get to scold the rubes when they complain about getting screwed by the ruling class.

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2013/08/let-hundred-conversations-bloom.html

  55. @Alfa158
    The use of the word retarded suggests it was a hoax. Any Aware Educator would no more use that than they would use Black instead of African-American, or Latino instead of Latinx.
    Oh wait, they used those too.
    Ok, a hoax.

    Not a hoax. The district issued a non-apology for some of the terminology, but doesn’t deny it’s an official questionnaire.

    The gratuitousness of this is what gets you. And the absolute absence of any public demand for it. This is pure education professor rubbish.

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    the absolute absence of any public demand for it
     
    Oh, there’s demand for it. If Yale is doing it you best believe there are plenty of ambitious moms wanting nothing but the best for their own kids.

    If Yale were jumping off a cliff...
  56. @Art Deco
    Not a hoax. The district issued a non-apology for some of the terminology, but doesn't deny it's an official questionnaire.


    The gratuitousness of this is what gets you. And the absolute absence of any public demand for it. This is pure education professor rubbish.

    the absolute absence of any public demand for it

    Oh, there’s demand for it. If Yale is doing it you best believe there are plenty of ambitious moms wanting nothing but the best for their own kids.

    If Yale were jumping off a cliff…

    • Replies: @guest
    As if any of them know what Yale's up to. Yale could be helping secret Nazis install a death-ray on the moon, and they'd be none the wiser.
  57. @Clifford Brown
    I love the Adirondacks. There are some really priceless hokey throwback attractions from another era of our country. The place feels like a time machine in a good way. The fact that they still sell Lake Placid Olympics memorabilia is always a surprise. Thanks to FDR you can drive to the top of Whiteface Mountain and see all the way to Montreal. Nice to hear Canadian French in the United States.

    On the downside, too many mosquitos and it gets cold real fast in that neck of the woods. John Brown, America's original antifa, has a historic home and burial site in the Adirondacks. John Brown was a prescient fellow.

    https://parks.ny.gov/historic-sites/29/details.aspx

    Dude, the mosquitos are nothing. Wait ’til an Adirondack black fly saws a hunk of flesh out of you, and then you will know an evil insect.

    I spent three summers in a small boys’ camp in the Adirondacks (Upper Saranac Lake), and they were some of the best times of my youth. Climbing all of the 46 high peaks (4000′ plus), canoeing with portages. The best. Except for those black flies.

  58. So, do the Christian kids have to sew a yellow cross onto their clothing so they can be easily identified?

    Everything old is new again.

  59. @Mr McKenna

    The district says this survey allows students to have a conversation
     
    They have a point. You're not allowed to 'have a conversation' anymore in this country until after your Wokemon Points have been tallied.

    That bit about points for being white, though? Shows they're full of BS.

    Wokemon points. Excellent!

  60. @Clifford Brown

    An ancestor of mine fought at Saratoga, and his brother too. One wonders why, now.
     
    Saratoga Springs National Historic Park provides an exhaustive survey of the Battles of Saratoga. You can walk though the various battle positions although there is little evidence of the battle today. The presentation really captures the critical role that topography played in the battles.

    Saratoga Springs is a gem of a 19th Century American small town. Saratoga Springs would not score many diversity points.

    I would never contradict Buffalo Joe on Upstate New York, but Saratoga Springs is a big Yuppieville attraction–Vermont with money and without the dairy farms. Expensive, shitty apartments for all the kewl kidz–and million dollar condos for the Albany Capitol crowd. (Government pays extremely well in NYS.)

    It has old gracious Victorian homes, the race track and a revolutionary history that is a tourist draw. BTW, the horse racing season will open three weeks earlier than usual, but with the same number of racing days, due to construction at Belmont Park for the new NHL Islanders arena.

  61. @Cloudbuster
    As people mention with "retarded" indicating it is a hoax, the financial status scales are sloppy, too. There are caps in the income ranges: Rich appears to be "> $1,000,000/.yr" while the step below, Affluent, is "$100k - $250k/yr."Apparently if you earn between $250k and $1 million, you just don't count. Same between Middle and Affluent, with Middle topping out at $45k -- people earning between $45k and $100k just don't count.

    The country of origin list seems really strange, too. It doesn't use common regional identifiers and the very fine subdivisions of European origin are strange -- it's been decades since any White was treated notably differently because his origin was Polish, Irish, German, Italian, etc.

    The idea that simply being a woman puts you 75 privilege points below a man is ludicrous, especially in today's female-centered educational environments.

    This is childishly sloppy. I'd think it was a hoax, too, but statements by "the district" in the article indicate that the school district admits to distributing it. The fact that no district spokesman is identified is suspicious, though.

    I'm torn between really stupid journalist got hoaxed and really stupid teachers built the survey. Neither profession is known for intelligence.

    Stupid ignorant country-bumkin unsophisticated non-cosmopolitan teachers the likely culprit.

  62. @Desiderius

    the absolute absence of any public demand for it
     
    Oh, there’s demand for it. If Yale is doing it you best believe there are plenty of ambitious moms wanting nothing but the best for their own kids.

    If Yale were jumping off a cliff...

    As if any of them know what Yale’s up to. Yale could be helping secret Nazis install a death-ray on the moon, and they’d be none the wiser.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Yale, USC, whatever it varies depending where on the SES you’re talking about. But of course this bullshit is now mandatory everywhere so it doesn’t matter.

    https://www.americanexperiment.org/2017/10/curriculum-political-indoctrination-edinas-public-schools/

  63. @guest
    As if any of them know what Yale's up to. Yale could be helping secret Nazis install a death-ray on the moon, and they'd be none the wiser.

    Yale, USC, whatever it varies depending where on the SES you’re talking about. But of course this bullshit is now mandatory everywhere so it doesn’t matter.

    https://www.americanexperiment.org/2017/10/curriculum-political-indoctrination-edinas-public-schools/

  64. This questionnaire looks exactly like an Internet meme from some years ago. Somebody probably trolled a teacher into thinking it was serious and convinced them to use it for the lulz.

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