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Back in December, I wrote in Taki’s Magazine:

The Unhappiness Explosion
by Steve Sailer

December 19, 2018

The prestige of the intersectional is pushing respectable opinion in anti-science directions, as seen in the resurgent prestige of astrology and witchcraft. Granted, perhaps it doesn’t matter all that much what lowbrows who like horoscopes and spells are into, but it probably does matter that actual sciences such as genetics, which had been the glamour field of the new century, are starting to be castigated by the prestige press as deplorable “race science.”

From the New York Times today:

Here’s What Being a Witch Really Means

By Pam Grossman
June 6, 2019

You could say I was primed to be a witch from an early age. …

I’m doing magic when I march in the streets for causes I believe in. (The proliferation of “HEX THE PATRIARCHY” placards fills me with particularly witchly glee).

“Witch” is one of the words I now use to describe myself, but its meaning varies depending on context. At any given time, it can signify that I am a feminist; someone who celebrates freedom for all and who will fight against injustice; a person who values intuition and self-expression; or a kindred spirit with other people who favor the unconventional, the underground and the uncanny.

I use the word “witch” to signify both my Pagan spiritual beliefs — that nature is holy, thus the planet we live on and the bodies we live in are all sacred — and my role as a complex woman who speaks her mind, behavior that is still often met by society with judgment or disdain.

I’m a witch when I’m celebrating the change of the seasons with my coven sisters, as well as when I stand against the destruction of the environment. I’m a witch when I’m giving thanks to the sun, moon and stars, and when I’m working to subvert the corrosive narrative of sexism, racism, queer-phobia and xenophobia. …

Pam Grossman is the host of “The Witch Wave” podcast and the author of “Waking the Witch: Reflections on Women, Magic, and Power,” from which this essay is adapted.

 
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  1. Yes, but are you a good witch or a bad witch?

    • LOL: Abe, TWS
    • Replies: @Anon
    Toto bit me.
    , @Hypnotoad666
    But does she weigh less than a duck?
    , @Pericles
    That's for her rabbi to decide.
    , @Father O'Hara
    As a boy seeing the good witch on tv,tho it was black and white, I got a funny feeling. Attractive woman,beautiful dress,long blonde hair--hell, I was turned on!
    Needless to say, Margaret Hamilton (?) had no such effect on me.
    , @Olorin
    Like so many Wiccans and New Agers, she's a Jewish witch.

    Example:

    Starhawk was born in 1951 in Saint Paul, Minnesota. Her father Jack Simos, died when she was five. Her mother, Bertha Claire Goldfarb Simos, was a professor of social work at UCLA. Both her parents were the children of Jewish immigrants from Russia.
     

    And remember, Robert Graves wrote The White Goddess, one of the founding texts of feminist paganism, because of how Laura Riding (real name Laura Reichenthal) treated him.

    She was canoodling with Graves while still married to Louis Gottschalk, an instructor at Cornell, from which she dropped out. They divorced in 1925, and immediately she was living with Graves, his wife Nancy Nicholson, and their four children.

    Riding's suicide threats (and eventual self-defenestration) destroyed Graves's marriage, and he deserted his family. She went on to take up similarly with Schuyler Jackson and his wife, with similar results. I think it was Allen Tate's wife who called her "strenuous," while William Carlos Williams called her "a prize b!tch." But we're supposed to remember her as a genius poet and The White Goddess as a work of poetic inspiration on Graves's part rather than, say, self-therapy.

    That whole witchy-witchy thang of the 20th century, welded at the hip to feminism, is a very Jewish phenomenon. Many white women and men were attracted to it, if I read the Zeitgeist correctly over the years, because it promised reconnection with European roots in contradistinction to the increasingly Jewish mass culture saturating every surface and moment. But those European roots were washed through the likes of Starhawk and the ghost of Riding in Graves's work.

    Again, Pam Grossman, who for some reason is making the media rounds:


    The witch is a notorious shape-shifter, and she comes in many guises....

    I find that the more I work with the witch, the more complex she becomes. Hers is a slippery spirit: try to pin her down, and she’ll only recede further into the deep, dark wood.
     

    That's from this piece in Time "magazine," which reads like a triple-parens leftist/Dem manifesto:

    time.com/5597693/real-women-witches/

    These days it seems that "paganism" is a refugium for whites who can't admit they're white. Example from 65% nonwhite Philadelphia:

    https://wiccadelphia.com/

    The Dems will do anything to mobilize these voters for 2020.

  2. Christine O’Donnell should run again. She was just ahead of her time.

    • LOL: Thea, PV van der Byl
  3. Perhaps Ms. Grossman would be interested in meeting some Congolese gentleman. She might get lucky and meet a witch doctor.

    • LOL: ThreeCranes
  4. • LOL: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @Pericles

    Is It OK to Hex a Nazi?

     

    Just don't make them think about the Hexenhammer.
  5. Anyone who grew up in the 70’s remember ads for witchcraft in comic books? I remember them up there with the Charles Atlas bodybuilding ads and the Sea Monkeys.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    I was too busy buying x-ray glasses, to see the witches tits.
  6. Ruth Bader Ginsburg was anti-choice for women in Edwards v. Healy and Duren v. Missouri. No feminist, she.

    • Replies: @anon
    How nice of the NYT to link this Editors' Pick on the sidebar of Nature Girl's story -

    shorturl.at/aklR3

    Demetrio Carvalho, East Timor’s secretary of state, summed up the theory. “The people believe that these crocs are our ancestors, and ancestors don’t go attacking people,” he said. “Our grandparents don’t kill us.”
  7. Speaking of witches, there’s this hideous transgendered witch named Dakota Bracciale. He/She/it was offended that Trump used the term “witch-hunt” to described the whole Russia collusion narrative.

  8. Yes, yes, the witch. But she knows not that there is, as Solomon observed, nothing new under the sun. So the witch’s voice is just an echo, a dim reverberation of the observation of Kenny Wayne Shepherd’s hit:

    Cold on ice
    As a dead man’s touch
    Whisper on a scream
    Doesn’t change a thing
    Doesn’t bring you back

    Ms. Grossman might claim her place, but the truth is, our experience writes off her stupidity. We have seen it all before, and the end is ugly – and fitting for Ms. Grossman.

  9. anonymous[395] • Disclaimer says:

    iSteve, you really need to make a Minnesota road trip, maybe Reg C could let you stay on his couch for a few days …

    Ex-Minneapolis police officer Mohamed Noor sentenced to 12½ years in prison

    “I caused this tragedy and it is my burden.” – Mohamed Noor

    By Chao Xiong
    Star Tribune staff

    JUNE 7, 2019 — 9:24PM

    Ex-Minneapolis police officer Mohamed Noor apologized in court Friday for fatally shooting Justine Ruszczyk Damond in 2017, but the judge who sentenced him to 12½ years in prison for his actions was unmoved, saying that he hasn’t taken responsibility for the killing that reverberated around the world.

    “He does not take personal responsibility for making an erroneous decision to fire a gun at her,” said Hennepin County District Judge Kathryn Quaintance. “He and his partner continue to maintain that her presence near the vehicle justified their extreme response.”

    The case grabbed worldwide attention and raised questions about the role of race and gender in the prosecution of officer-involved shootings. Damond was a white woman from Australia; Noor, who is black, was born in Somalia.

    Before being sentenced, Noor offered his apologies to Damond’s family, saying …

  10. By now some our great universities must be offering Pagan Studies and Wiccan Studies. There is a demand out there among woke Millennials, etc.

  11. • Replies: @Pericles
    By the way, yesterday I finally realized why it's Women of Color and not Females of Color.
  12. My copy of the King James Bible was left behind when I left my last job. But lurking around my braincells is the memory of Moses being given snark by a woman who’s then called a witch and duly condemned by Moses, Aaron and the rest of the good ol’ boys.

    Searched online for a few moments and couldn’t find it. My imagination?

    • Replies: @istevefan
    This might not be what you had in mind,

    From Exodus 22:18

    Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
     
  13. “behavior that is still often met by society with judgment”

    Above all, society should never judge a human being. No matter what they do, no negative feedback.

    “I’m a witch when I’m giving thanks to the sun, moon and stars..”

    which are inanimate objects so it’s unlikely your gratitude elicits a response.

    “I’m working to subvert the corrosive narrative of sexism, racism, queer-phobia and xenophobia.”

    A narrative that exists largely in your own mind.

    So, basically, you talk to yourself a lot.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @ricpic
    Yes, "society," the eternal whipping boy. Worse yet, I'll bet she thinks she's being original.
  14. My copy of the King James Bible was left behind when I left my last job. But lurking around my braincells is the memory of Moses being given snark by a woman who’s then called a witch and duly condemned by Moses, Aaron and the rest of the good ol’ boys.

    Searched online for a few moments and couldn’t find it. My imagination?

    And King James?

    The wisest fool in Christendom.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Witch of Endor -- big influence on Star Wars.
    , @Lot
    King James was a big proponent of studying witchcraft in order to defend against them, and also of prosecution of witches.

    Here’s the book he wrote about it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemonologie
    , @SFG
    Knew how to assemble a team at least, that Bible's lasted hundreds of years, and still has a rhetorical heft its successors lack.
  15. Sure. Let women vote. Why not? What could possibly go wrong with that?

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    Warren G. Harding.
  16. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Yes, but are you a good witch or a bad witch?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyvRyxpvDi8

    Toto bit me.

  17. anon[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    Ruth Bader Ginsburg was anti-choice for women in Edwards v. Healy and Duren v. Missouri. No feminist, she.

    How nice of the NYT to link this Editors’ Pick on the sidebar of Nature Girl’s story –

    shorturl.at/aklR3

    Demetrio Carvalho, East Timor’s secretary of state, summed up the theory. “The people believe that these crocs are our ancestors, and ancestors don’t go attacking people,” he said. “Our grandparents don’t kill us.”

  18. @Cortes
    My copy of the King James Bible was left behind when I left my last job. But lurking around my braincells is the memory of Moses being given snark by a woman who’s then called a witch and duly condemned by Moses, Aaron and the rest of the good ol’ boys.

    Searched online for a few moments and couldn’t find it. My imagination?

    And King James?

    The wisest fool in Christendom.

    Witch of Endor — big influence on Star Wars.

    • Replies: @HA
    Yeah. I'm guessing that he's confusing Saul's trip to a fortune teller with the earlier passage where both Miriam and Aaron give snark to Moses for marrying not only a foreigner, but an Ethiopian. (Numbers 12).
    , @Gordo
    Witch of Endor - One of Hornblower's vessels I think.
  19. @Cortes
    My copy of the King James Bible was left behind when I left my last job. But lurking around my braincells is the memory of Moses being given snark by a woman who’s then called a witch and duly condemned by Moses, Aaron and the rest of the good ol’ boys.

    Searched online for a few moments and couldn’t find it. My imagination?

    And King James?

    The wisest fool in Christendom.

    King James was a big proponent of studying witchcraft in order to defend against them, and also of prosecution of witches.

    Here’s the book he wrote about it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemonologie

    • Replies: @Lot
    James I was likely one of the smartest English monarchs.

    Any other nominations?

    If Jane Grey’s 9-day reigns qualifies her, at 16 she spoke several languages and her tutor reported when he first met her she was reading Plato when the rest of the household was enjoying the outdoors.

    Henry VIII, like James I, considered himself a scholar, and wrote a fair amount.
    , @Hypnotoad666
    The Saudis are still on the case and actively prosecuting witches. I'd advise this eco-feminist witchy woman to cross the Kingdom off her future travel plans.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/278701/
  20. @Cortes
    My copy of the King James Bible was left behind when I left my last job. But lurking around my braincells is the memory of Moses being given snark by a woman who’s then called a witch and duly condemned by Moses, Aaron and the rest of the good ol’ boys.

    Searched online for a few moments and couldn’t find it. My imagination?

    And King James?

    The wisest fool in Christendom.

    Knew how to assemble a team at least, that Bible’s lasted hundreds of years, and still has a rhetorical heft its successors lack.

  21. There’s a range between bitter screeching witches and comely mysterious witches. Be careful out there, especially with the latter.

    • Replies: @mmack
    I think Bugs Bunny had the correct frame of mind on that issue:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h635NhpPszI
    , @ThreeCranes
    Agree.

    Truth is, every woman is a witch. And that's the way it should be. Her powers run the spectrum from light to dark. She herself is a vessel, literally and figuratively. Since she's not handed a script at birth, it's up to her to figure out how to master or tame the power she finds herself in possession of/possessed by.

    Of course, the only way to establish proper boundaries is to go until you make a bad mistake and then backtrack or ease off a bit. This means that every worthwhile woman has, at some point, screwed over a good, deserving man.

    But we guys can't let that bother us too much. It's just the way of the world. We've done the compliment. So we should stop making fun of or complaining about women's witchery. Would you men really have it any different? After all, any guy who hasn't been literally enchanted by a bewitching woman at some point in his life hasn't drunk deeply enough from the Cup.
  22. Monty Python had a great sketch in “The Holy Grail”about trying witches by dunking them. Maybe some one can link.

    • Replies: @MarkU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf71YotfykQ
  23. Lot says:
    @Lot
    King James was a big proponent of studying witchcraft in order to defend against them, and also of prosecution of witches.

    Here’s the book he wrote about it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemonologie

    James I was likely one of the smartest English monarchs.

    Any other nominations?

    If Jane Grey’s 9-day reigns qualifies her, at 16 she spoke several languages and her tutor reported when he first met her she was reading Plato when the rest of the household was enjoying the outdoors.

    Henry VIII, like James I, considered himself a scholar, and wrote a fair amount.

    • Replies: @Flip
    William III by taking over Britain from the Netherlands must have had a lot on the ball.
    , @Pericles

    If Jane Grey’s 9-day reigns qualifies her, at 16 she spoke several languages and her tutor reported when he first met her she was reading Plato when the rest of the household was enjoying the outdoors.

     

    Nobody likes a tryhard, JANE.
  24. I read a book which argued that the ancients didn’t have a concept of “superstition” in the modern sense because of their generally monistic view of the world. An ancient Greek believed that if we went into the forest, he could just as easily run across a god (a daimon) as a deer. The Greek word often translated as “superstition,” deisidaimonia, really referred to holding a fearful belief about the daimones which philosophers considered unworthy of the daimones’ superior moral character, not a belief about something which doesn’t exist outside of the believer’s imagination. Apparently the ancient Latin equivalent of this term, superstitio, had similar connotations.

    The modern concept of superstition emerged in early modernity, as the philosophical revolution in the 17th Century initiated by Cartesian dualism drew sharp distinctions between the natural and the cognitive worlds, where mindless mechanical laws operate in the former. We see an early attempt to redefine superstition by Thomas Hobbes in his Leviathan, where he writes:

    Feare of power invisible, feigned by the mind, or imagined from tales publiquely allowed, RELIGION; not allowed, superstition. And when the power imagined is truly such as we imagine, TRUE RELIGION.

    In other works, Hobbes defined religion and superstition as different versions of the same subjective phenomenon, neither of which necessarily has to map an external reality.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Right. They thought magic actually could happen (when you don't have germ theory things like disease start to look like evil curses), so they're not going to have a conception of 'belief in magic, which is wrong'.

    You still had people who thought more rationally--there was a monk who argued that most of the women accused were ugly, and the first thing any woman making a deal with the devil would ask for was beauty, so most likely the devil was not actually involved. But, really, who knew why your cows were getting sick?
  25. @Charlesz Martel
    Sure. Let women vote. Why not? What could possibly go wrong with that?

    Warren G. Harding.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar


    Sure. Let women vote. Why not? What could possibly go wrong with that?
     
    Warren G. Harding.
     
    Our most underrated president. Courtesy of Ron:


    A Few Kind Words for Warren G. Harding

    It's hard to think of a better defense of women's suffrage than Harding and Coolidge.

  26. If you think of “The Patriarchy” as being a malevolent deity, feminism starts to make a lot more sense.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
  27. Feminism = Superstition

    It also equals a new form of puritanism, so the transitive property of equality implies that: Superstition = Puritanism in a new form, but is this true?

    “Moral” restrictions on behavior (of White men) occur when any of the current wave of “things” is combined with Social Justice. With present day witches, we have would-be priestesses who wish to enforce the new puritanism.

    This contrasts with the more low-brow witches of a generation or two in the past. The last time this subject came up, I recounted the one I dated thirty years ago who liked nothing more than to take sex like a bitch and be dominated until it was over. She professed to be a feminist too…

    She was slightly crazy, and I think they all are now too, no matter how seriously the media pretend to take them.

    • Replies: @SFG
    I would agree with slightly crazy. The whole witch thing never got the most stable people. I read the books back in the 90s and it was a couple of lower-status high school kids who did it.Kind of the same people who would play D&D a few years earlier (though skewing more female obviously), and there is a lot of overlap for obvious reasons--magic!

    I think this happens in cycles--the last big feminist wave came in the 70s after 'free love' meant lots of cads sleeping around. Women (as a group) hate that no longer what bizarre ideologies they create to deny it, so they started with 'all sex was rape' and things like that.

    Now the internet led to hookup culture and women being upset, plus nobody (male or female) below about 35 can read social cues because they spend all their time online, so they decide to classify everything as assault, and hopefully make men behave politely and respect all their feelings--a sort of New Victorianism. Without the the big scientific advances and expansion of national power, of course.

    All IMHO, naturally.

    Out of curiosity, anyone who was around remember what killed second-wave feminism, and any way we can speed it along this time?

  28. Before the phrase became trite, a talented person – probably the only one knowledgable of its origin – did use it.

    Grossman?

    Shouldn’t she demand to be addressed as “Grosswomyn?”

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    Kate Bush is a witch, but I insist that she is the good kind.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5agt0cpxsKU
  29. I’m a witch when I’m giving thanks to the sun, moon and stars, …

    From 2 Kings 23:5

    And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.

  30. @Cortes
    My copy of the King James Bible was left behind when I left my last job. But lurking around my braincells is the memory of Moses being given snark by a woman who’s then called a witch and duly condemned by Moses, Aaron and the rest of the good ol’ boys.

    Searched online for a few moments and couldn’t find it. My imagination?

    This might not be what you had in mind,

    From Exodus 22:18

    Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

  31. >> I use the word “witch” to signify both my Pagan spiritual beliefs

    >> I was raised Jewish but found myself attracted to belief systems that felt more individualized and mystical and that fully honored the feminine. Eventually I found my way to modern Paganism (Fom time Magazine).

    What a bullshitting con artist. Every American generation, over the past 100 years, has encountered these Jewish Pied Pipers (Anarchists in the 20s, Commies in the 30s-50s, freaks like Abbie Hoffman, Gerry Rubin in the 60s, the entire 70s feminist movement, porn in the 70s, NYC Punk 70s-80s….) who act out against the larger culture and, amazingly, pull along gullible and impressionable youth. As Steve and others have pointed out, what really drives the anger and frustration of these people are the limitations, absurdities, oppression and restrictions of their own peculiar culture, but they can’t acknowledge this. To publicly acknowledge would strike against one’s own kin, and that is not done lightly by anybody. Hence, they act out in these stupid, but predictable, ways, antagonizing the rest of us, seducing a lot of middling to less than middling IQ youth. Will it ever pass? All always gets promoted, why? Who cares. At this point all I can say is, Yaaaaaawnn.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna

    To publicly acknowledge would strike against one’s own kin, and that is not done lightly by anybody.
     
    With the signal exception of White People,
    whose collective mantra nowadays is "I Hate White People."
    , @SFG
    Anarchists in the 20s and the NYC punk scene in the 70s-80s wasn't nearly entirely Jewish. The commies and 60s freaks I will give you and porn...well, if the Tribe didn't do that someone else would.

    By and large you're right though. In particular feminism in the 70s. I'd probably make some crack about Jewish guys being insufficiently masculine and thus they were fantasizing about manlier rapists, but a lot of them were gay.

    To me the NYT end of it seems to be the daughters and nieces of the original 70s crowd trying to act as if they've still got it though. Modern feminism seems more 'vibrant' as figures like Roxane Gay take the lead thanks to intersectionality. Perhaps the drop in verbal IQ will cause the movement to decay. One can always hope.
    , @Ibound1
    Analysis is spot on. What is interesting is that in Israel, these people (who come across as freakish and even seriously mentally disturbed to me) do not seem to get any traction. Our host often points out that Israel seems like a healthy society - with men serving in the army and women still having lots of children. What do they do with this population?

    Anyway does this person really believe in magic? If so I hope she gets some help.
  32. I’ve long thought paganism was silly, because nobody really believes the sun is driving a chariot across the sky, but it does hold some attraction for a lot of people as a belief system that stands against some set of norms they dislike for whatever reason.

    This is why you have both racial separatists and feminists identifying as “pagan” in the West. The former are against the utopian treacle that passes for public Christianity (e.g. MLKism), while the latter are in open revolt against their biology, which they suspect is God’s fault.

    Both are fooling themselves (as well as making fools of themselves), because long before Jesus came along, the wisest of the pagans had already come to the conclusion that it was all a sham, and there really is only one God. So the truth is that paganism was already pretty well discredited by the time Christianity made it’s debut, and it was not that difficult for men like St. Augustine to knock what remained of it down in the late Roman Empire.

    When it comes down to it these people are just LARPing their fantasy characters.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Disordered Deacon
    agreed. the pagan usual defense is that "oooh but Christians are so owordly and oppressive, they took the magick and the wonder from the natural world, my fave insta witch webcam model said so!", if leftist, or "oooh but Christians are so otherwordly and weak, they took the powerful gods of Apollo and Thor away, Nietzche and Spengler said so!" if rightwing. yeah, and the Colisseum and Vestal Virgins, and the burning of yule trees, and poligamy, and ritual raiding and raping, and other sacrifices or things we today consider "non-Western" that came with it the pretty robes and Celtic hexes and "democratic" Thing meetings. plus the saints and miracles and the Real Presence remain, as well as secular folklore, romantic hero myths, and seasonal secular celebrations such as carnivals and may days. even Aquinas recognized the ability of stars to influence due to being celestial bodies (but not for divination/horoscope purposes, more akin to lunar cycles), and other saints mentioned meeting otherwordly creatures that were not necessarily devils but definitely were not human and as such could have varying influence on humans and were best to be avoided and/or handled with care. ergo, a Christian can still remember All Hallows Eve without going crazy for it. meanwhile the pagans bend over themselves trying not to sound even more fetishistic and wishy washy with their gods than Christians with God.
    , @anonymous coward
    Yes, but not quite.

    People always believed in God. Polytheistic paganism came much, much later; and even then it was a kind of resentment of a God that they viewed as uncaring or cold-hearted. Still, belief in God never went away.

    So the original Christian missionaries weren't destroying the old pagan world, more like setting it finally upright and straight-headed.
    , @MarkU

    Both are fooling themselves (as well as making fools of themselves), because long before Jesus came along, the wisest of the pagans had already come to the conclusion that it was all a sham, and there really is only one God.
     
    Reducing down to one is certainly moving in the right direction but it still leaves billions of people believing in what is essentially garbage.

    I am not suggesting that people are not entitled to have an attachment to the traditions of their culture and often religion has been an important factor in the development of those traditions. Many of the parables for example illustrate some important moral and philosophical points but I see no reason why a literal belief in supernatural entities is essential for moral and philosophical development. I am a fan of Aesops fables myself.
    , @White Guy In Japan
    Still, LARPing as a Viking warrior is much better than cutting off your cock and LARPing as a woman.
  33. OT: Up in olde New York, schools chancellor Carranza bypasses hiring procedures, hires a flunky and a couple of very pretty, young Chicana hotties from the old barrio. Was ratted out by nice, frumpy, middle class, good-white ladies, the individuals who do most of the productive and good work in the Leviathan that is New York public schools. The empire strikes back. Fireworks.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Wow! Good catch. The daggers are out for the guy.

    https://nypost.com/2019/06/08/richard-carranza-accused-of-waiving-protocol-to-hire-pals-in-high-ranking-jobs/

    Sounds like some money laundering or structuring going on with the guy's last employer submitting 28 sequential $25,000 invoices to avoid triggering the comptroller. Normally a structuring filter would catch something like this, but by having purchase orders from different schools, maybe it would slip through. I would check for kickbacks in the guy's bank account. But his benefit may simply be that he knows he can get his old job back at any time.
    , @Clyde

    Up in olde New York, schools chancellor Carranza...
     
    They call him El Mariachi. Do you have a link to his hot Latinas hiring?
    , @ricpic
    He may have been "ratted out" but nothing will come of it. As blacks and hispanics in NY see it it's their turn at the trough. And who's going to stop them? There is no justice in NY, only social-justice.
    , @midtown
    His best decision thus far.
    , @Clifford Brown
    The problem is that Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are the top dogs in the New York Latino hierarchy so this guy will have no allies. Asians obviously don't support him. He is literally a man without a country.
  34. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Yes, but are you a good witch or a bad witch?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyvRyxpvDi8

    But does she weigh less than a duck?

  35. Anon[320] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    The Atlantic has shored up their “Shakespeare was a chick” article with seven new articles published simultaneously, most of which seem somewhat sympathetic to the theory. There’s an overview piece, five pieces from outside “authorities,” and a “letters” post which links to Quillette’s epic takedown of the original article and has a vague response from the writer of the original article.

    Giving the Atlantic editors the benefit of the doubt, I think the original piece was probably a zeitgeisty, “Take that, white male patriarchy!” clickbait success, so they decided to milk it some more. Gotta pay the bills. They probably found their “authorities” in their Twitter retweets and hired them on the cheap.

    • Replies: @WowJustWow
    Does this mean they're going to reverse course on the push to reduce Shakespeare in the curriculum? This is actually a clever way to keep the great canon of literature intact. "You're still making kids read that old straight white male?" "No, you see, if you grossly overinterpret this letter to a friend of his that was recently found, he really felt that he was trans." "Oh, carry on."
  36. @Lot
    King James was a big proponent of studying witchcraft in order to defend against them, and also of prosecution of witches.

    Here’s the book he wrote about it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemonologie

    The Saudis are still on the case and actively prosecuting witches. I’d advise this eco-feminist witchy woman to cross the Kingdom off her future travel plans.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/278701/

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    Africa is also a place a witch should avoid. Also, non-witches should avoid.
  37. @Bill P
    I've long thought paganism was silly, because nobody really believes the sun is driving a chariot across the sky, but it does hold some attraction for a lot of people as a belief system that stands against some set of norms they dislike for whatever reason.

    This is why you have both racial separatists and feminists identifying as "pagan" in the West. The former are against the utopian treacle that passes for public Christianity (e.g. MLKism), while the latter are in open revolt against their biology, which they suspect is God's fault.

    Both are fooling themselves (as well as making fools of themselves), because long before Jesus came along, the wisest of the pagans had already come to the conclusion that it was all a sham, and there really is only one God. So the truth is that paganism was already pretty well discredited by the time Christianity made it's debut, and it was not that difficult for men like St. Augustine to knock what remained of it down in the late Roman Empire.

    When it comes down to it these people are just LARPing their fantasy characters.

    agreed. the pagan usual defense is that “oooh but Christians are so owordly and oppressive, they took the magick and the wonder from the natural world, my fave insta witch webcam model said so!”, if leftist, or “oooh but Christians are so otherwordly and weak, they took the powerful gods of Apollo and Thor away, Nietzche and Spengler said so!” if rightwing. yeah, and the Colisseum and Vestal Virgins, and the burning of yule trees, and poligamy, and ritual raiding and raping, and other sacrifices or things we today consider “non-Western” that came with it the pretty robes and Celtic hexes and “democratic” Thing meetings. plus the saints and miracles and the Real Presence remain, as well as secular folklore, romantic hero myths, and seasonal secular celebrations such as carnivals and may days. even Aquinas recognized the ability of stars to influence due to being celestial bodies (but not for divination/horoscope purposes, more akin to lunar cycles), and other saints mentioned meeting otherwordly creatures that were not necessarily devils but definitely were not human and as such could have varying influence on humans and were best to be avoided and/or handled with care. ergo, a Christian can still remember All Hallows Eve without going crazy for it. meanwhile the pagans bend over themselves trying not to sound even more fetishistic and wishy washy with their gods than Christians with God.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I think you had a rather interesting point there for a moment but it was dampened somewhat by the Faulkner-on-LSD delivery
  38. Ms. Grossman just needs to meet a Yamnaya man, the kind some feminists believe destroyed the (non-existent) ancient matriarchal society of peace and plenty. He’ll get her mind right, or at least teach her to shut up.

    • LOL: Almost Missouri
  39. By Pam Grossman
    June 6, 2019

    You could say I was primed to be a witch from an early age. …

    These are the sort of people who, long about 2003 or 2004, referred to themselves as “The Science Based Community”.

    At least she’s good looking. If you’re going to claim to be a “witch”, then it helps to look more like Elizabeth Montgomery than like some old hag.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    "At least she’s good looking. If you’re going to claim to be a 'witch', then it helps to look more like Elizabeth Montgomery than like some old hag."

    It helps her. It certainly doesn't help our side. I don't want her to be helped to be taken seriously. In a sane society, she would be ridiculed and scorned for making such statements publicly, possibly institutionalized. Instead she's given a public platform in a well-known newspaper.

    Just because someone is ridiculous and risible does not mean he, she or it in all its they variations, is not dangerous. It is because people of her ilk have been taken seriously as serious thinkers, policy makers and trend setters that we're in the fix we're in today.
    , @anon
    She is good looking, and actually seems quite likeable. "Weird kid" doesn't quite grow up. Some good and basic stuff under the flakiness. Although, personally, I would keep her at arm's -length. And I would hope that she wasn't still messing around with those date-rape magic spells.

    Being a witch in Africa, that a totally different thing than being one in the Western Patriarchy.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=witches+in+africa
    , @Jim Don Bob

    At least she’s good looking.
     
    Yep. She's a solid four.
    , @OilcanFloyd

    At least she’s good looking. If you’re going to claim to be a “witch”, then it helps to look more like Elizabeth Montgomery than like some old hag.
     
    http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Pam+Grossman+Girls+Lounge+Advertising+Week+mYii5XUIFi5l.jpg

    I guess this is the woman. I'll go out on a limb and risk being hexed, and say that she's a 6 or 6.5 at best.
  40. Anonymous[110] • Disclaimer says:

    It all came full circle.

    Superstition was once so trad. Use for the magic for the Man.

    But I’ll take Dorothy over Wicked.

  41. @Daniel H
    >> I use the word “witch” to signify both my Pagan spiritual beliefs

    >> I was raised Jewish but found myself attracted to belief systems that felt more individualized and mystical and that fully honored the feminine. Eventually I found my way to modern Paganism (Fom time Magazine).

    What a bullshitting con artist. Every American generation, over the past 100 years, has encountered these Jewish Pied Pipers (Anarchists in the 20s, Commies in the 30s-50s, freaks like Abbie Hoffman, Gerry Rubin in the 60s, the entire 70s feminist movement, porn in the 70s, NYC Punk 70s-80s....) who act out against the larger culture and, amazingly, pull along gullible and impressionable youth. As Steve and others have pointed out, what really drives the anger and frustration of these people are the limitations, absurdities, oppression and restrictions of their own peculiar culture, but they can't acknowledge this. To publicly acknowledge would strike against one's own kin, and that is not done lightly by anybody. Hence, they act out in these stupid, but predictable, ways, antagonizing the rest of us, seducing a lot of middling to less than middling IQ youth. Will it ever pass? All always gets promoted, why? Who cares. At this point all I can say is, Yaaaaaawnn.

    To publicly acknowledge would strike against one’s own kin, and that is not done lightly by anybody.

    With the signal exception of White People,
    whose collective mantra nowadays is “I Hate White People.”

  42. Anon[320] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel H
    OT: Up in olde New York, schools chancellor Carranza bypasses hiring procedures, hires a flunky and a couple of very pretty, young Chicana hotties from the old barrio. Was ratted out by nice, frumpy, middle class, good-white ladies, the individuals who do most of the productive and good work in the Leviathan that is New York public schools. The empire strikes back. Fireworks.

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/carranza-friends.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1033

    Wow! Good catch. The daggers are out for the guy.

    https://nypost.com/2019/06/08/richard-carranza-accused-of-waiving-protocol-to-hire-pals-in-high-ranking-jobs/

    Sounds like some money laundering or structuring going on with the guy’s last employer submitting 28 sequential $25,000 invoices to avoid triggering the comptroller. Normally a structuring filter would catch something like this, but by having purchase orders from different schools, maybe it would slip through. I would check for kickbacks in the guy’s bank account. But his benefit may simply be that he knows he can get his old job back at any time.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    But he was born in America to immigrant parents, so this isn't an instance of minority, hispanic crime. No, it's going to be tabulated under the "White, white collar crime" column head.
    , @NYMOM
    Exactly the daggers are out.

    The next thing we will hear is that he is resigning and then they will suddenly find a left-wing Asian candidate to replace him. Of course this person will be entirely supportive of the Mayor's initiative to kick most Asians out of the specialized high schools claiming 'fairness' or racial balance or something...

    This is very predictable.
  43. Grossman

    Every Goddamned time. (Emphasis on ‘God-damned’.)

  44. It’s not paganism, it’s satanism. Did you miss the documentary “Hail Satan!” about the temple of Satan? It’s becoming mainstream, as it’s the religion of the elites.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    From the trailer:

    "confronting injustice is an expression of one's Satanic faith."
     
    Sheesh, even I could be a better Satanist than these low grade larpers.

    Creating injustice is an expression of one's Satanic unfaith.
     
    FIFY

    It doesn't say much for modern Satanism that their Satanism is really just wanker-tier Christianity.
  45. @Bill P
    I've long thought paganism was silly, because nobody really believes the sun is driving a chariot across the sky, but it does hold some attraction for a lot of people as a belief system that stands against some set of norms they dislike for whatever reason.

    This is why you have both racial separatists and feminists identifying as "pagan" in the West. The former are against the utopian treacle that passes for public Christianity (e.g. MLKism), while the latter are in open revolt against their biology, which they suspect is God's fault.

    Both are fooling themselves (as well as making fools of themselves), because long before Jesus came along, the wisest of the pagans had already come to the conclusion that it was all a sham, and there really is only one God. So the truth is that paganism was already pretty well discredited by the time Christianity made it's debut, and it was not that difficult for men like St. Augustine to knock what remained of it down in the late Roman Empire.

    When it comes down to it these people are just LARPing their fantasy characters.

    Yes, but not quite.

    People always believed in God. Polytheistic paganism came much, much later; and even then it was a kind of resentment of a God that they viewed as uncaring or cold-hearted. Still, belief in God never went away.

    So the original Christian missionaries weren’t destroying the old pagan world, more like setting it finally upright and straight-headed.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    Dude, the real deal is this - no one (except me, apparently) wants to be responsible for their life. Easier to blame it on some fucking deity than just man up. End of story.
  46. @Lot
    James I was likely one of the smartest English monarchs.

    Any other nominations?

    If Jane Grey’s 9-day reigns qualifies her, at 16 she spoke several languages and her tutor reported when he first met her she was reading Plato when the rest of the household was enjoying the outdoors.

    Henry VIII, like James I, considered himself a scholar, and wrote a fair amount.

    William III by taking over Britain from the Netherlands must have had a lot on the ball.

    • Replies: @Lot
    I agree, I think the dynastic founders were likely smart: William the Conquerer, Henry VII, and William of Orange (who would have founded a dynasty if he had any children).

    The actual takeover was more a matter of luck and bad decisions by James II. But his rise to power in the Netherlands was impressive.
  47. SFG says:
    @advancedatheist
    I read a book which argued that the ancients didn't have a concept of "superstition" in the modern sense because of their generally monistic view of the world. An ancient Greek believed that if we went into the forest, he could just as easily run across a god (a daimon) as a deer. The Greek word often translated as "superstition," deisidaimonia, really referred to holding a fearful belief about the daimones which philosophers considered unworthy of the daimones' superior moral character, not a belief about something which doesn't exist outside of the believer's imagination. Apparently the ancient Latin equivalent of this term, superstitio, had similar connotations.

    The modern concept of superstition emerged in early modernity, as the philosophical revolution in the 17th Century initiated by Cartesian dualism drew sharp distinctions between the natural and the cognitive worlds, where mindless mechanical laws operate in the former. We see an early attempt to redefine superstition by Thomas Hobbes in his Leviathan, where he writes:


    Feare of power invisible, feigned by the mind, or imagined from tales publiquely allowed, RELIGION; not allowed, superstition. And when the power imagined is truly such as we imagine, TRUE RELIGION.
     
    In other works, Hobbes defined religion and superstition as different versions of the same subjective phenomenon, neither of which necessarily has to map an external reality.

    Right. They thought magic actually could happen (when you don’t have germ theory things like disease start to look like evil curses), so they’re not going to have a conception of ‘belief in magic, which is wrong’.

    You still had people who thought more rationally–there was a monk who argued that most of the women accused were ugly, and the first thing any woman making a deal with the devil would ask for was beauty, so most likely the devil was not actually involved. But, really, who knew why your cows were getting sick?

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    "and the first thing any woman making a deal with the devil would ask for was beauty"

    a most cogent observation.

    And Paris, given the choice of presenting the apple labeled "for the fairest" gave it not to the Goddess of Wisdom nor to the Goddess who wielded Earthly Power, but to the enchanting, ravishing Goddess of Love.

    Just a brief review of the wisdom of the Greeks, from Wiki

    "In celebration of the marriage of Peleus and Thetis, Lord Zeus, father of the Greek pantheon, hosted a banquet on Mount Olympus. Every deity and demi-god had been invited, except Eris, the goddess of strife (no one wanted a troublemaker at a wedding). For revenge, Eris threw the golden Apple of Discord inscribed with the word "kallisti" – "For the most beautiful" – into the party, provoking a squabble among the attendant goddesses over for whom it had been meant.

    The goddesses thought to be the most beautiful were Hera, Athena, and Aphrodite, and each one claimed the apple. They started a quarrel so they asked Zeus to choose one of them. Knowing that choosing any of them would bring him the hatred of the other two, Zeus did not want to take part in the decision. He thus appointed Paris to select the most beautiful.


    Escorted by Hermes, the three goddesses bathed in the spring of Mount Ida and approached Paris as he herded his cattle. Having been given permission by Zeus to set any conditions he saw fit, Paris required that the goddesses undress before him[5] (alternatively, the goddesses themselves chose to disrobe to show all their beauty). Still, Paris could not decide, as all three were ideally beautiful, so the goddesses attempted to bribe him to choose among them. Hera offered ownership of all of Europe and Asia. Athena offered skill in battle, wisdom and the abilities of the greatest warriors. Aphrodite offered the love of the most beautiful woman on Earth: Helen of Sparta. Paris chose Aphrodite and therefore Helen.

    Helen was already married to King Menelaus of Sparta (a fact Aphrodite neglected to mention), so Paris had to raid Menelaus's house to steal Helen from him - according to some accounts, she fell in love with Paris and left willingly.

    The Greeks' expedition to retrieve Helen from Paris in Troy is the mythological basis of the Trojan War. This triggered the war because Helen was famous for her beauty throughout Achaea (ancient Greece), and had many suitors of extraordinary ability. Therefore, following Odysseus's advice, her father Tyndareus made all suitors promise to defend Helen's marriage to the man he chose for her. When Paris took her to Troy, Menelaus invoked this oath. Helen's other suitors – who between them represented the lion's share of Achaea's strength, wealth and military prowess – were obliged to help bring her back. Thus, the whole of Greece moved against Troy in force and the Trojan War began."
  48. SFG says:
    @Daniel H
    >> I use the word “witch” to signify both my Pagan spiritual beliefs

    >> I was raised Jewish but found myself attracted to belief systems that felt more individualized and mystical and that fully honored the feminine. Eventually I found my way to modern Paganism (Fom time Magazine).

    What a bullshitting con artist. Every American generation, over the past 100 years, has encountered these Jewish Pied Pipers (Anarchists in the 20s, Commies in the 30s-50s, freaks like Abbie Hoffman, Gerry Rubin in the 60s, the entire 70s feminist movement, porn in the 70s, NYC Punk 70s-80s....) who act out against the larger culture and, amazingly, pull along gullible and impressionable youth. As Steve and others have pointed out, what really drives the anger and frustration of these people are the limitations, absurdities, oppression and restrictions of their own peculiar culture, but they can't acknowledge this. To publicly acknowledge would strike against one's own kin, and that is not done lightly by anybody. Hence, they act out in these stupid, but predictable, ways, antagonizing the rest of us, seducing a lot of middling to less than middling IQ youth. Will it ever pass? All always gets promoted, why? Who cares. At this point all I can say is, Yaaaaaawnn.

    Anarchists in the 20s and the NYC punk scene in the 70s-80s wasn’t nearly entirely Jewish. The commies and 60s freaks I will give you and porn…well, if the Tribe didn’t do that someone else would.

    By and large you’re right though. In particular feminism in the 70s. I’d probably make some crack about Jewish guys being insufficiently masculine and thus they were fantasizing about manlier rapists, but a lot of them were gay.

    To me the NYT end of it seems to be the daughters and nieces of the original 70s crowd trying to act as if they’ve still got it though. Modern feminism seems more ‘vibrant’ as figures like Roxane Gay take the lead thanks to intersectionality. Perhaps the drop in verbal IQ will cause the movement to decay. One can always hope.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    There’s a niche for transgression in first world societies, if it’s not actively suppressed. There was an FT article about modern artists in Poland yesterday - women who eat bananas topless and do other sorts of groundbreaking performance art. Pretty much the entire Jewish population of Poland was wiped out but the niche is filled batty Polish women.
  49. @Hapalong Cassidy
    Anyone who grew up in the 70’s remember ads for witchcraft in comic books? I remember them up there with the Charles Atlas bodybuilding ads and the Sea Monkeys.

    I was too busy buying x-ray glasses, to see the witches tits.

  50. SFG says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Feminism = Superstition

    It also equals a new form of puritanism, so the transitive property of equality implies that: Superstition = Puritanism in a new form, but is this true?

    "Moral" restrictions on behavior (of White men) occur when any of the current wave of "things" is combined with Social Justice. With present day witches, we have would-be priestesses who wish to enforce the new puritanism.

    This contrasts with the more low-brow witches of a generation or two in the past. The last time this subject came up, I recounted the one I dated thirty years ago who liked nothing more than to take sex like a bitch and be dominated until it was over. She professed to be a feminist too...

    She was slightly crazy, and I think they all are now too, no matter how seriously the media pretend to take them.

    I would agree with slightly crazy. The whole witch thing never got the most stable people. I read the books back in the 90s and it was a couple of lower-status high school kids who did it.Kind of the same people who would play D&D a few years earlier (though skewing more female obviously), and there is a lot of overlap for obvious reasons–magic!

    I think this happens in cycles–the last big feminist wave came in the 70s after ‘free love’ meant lots of cads sleeping around. Women (as a group) hate that no longer what bizarre ideologies they create to deny it, so they started with ‘all sex was rape’ and things like that.

    Now the internet led to hookup culture and women being upset, plus nobody (male or female) below about 35 can read social cues because they spend all their time online, so they decide to classify everything as assault, and hopefully make men behave politely and respect all their feelings–a sort of New Victorianism. Without the the big scientific advances and expansion of national power, of course.

    All IMHO, naturally.

    Out of curiosity, anyone who was around remember what killed second-wave feminism, and any way we can speed it along this time?

    • Replies: @Bitfu
    I don't know what killed second-wave feminism, but the Malleus Maleficarum aka Hammer of Witches is a fascinating backstory.

    It was written by a priest--Heinrich Kramer-- in the late 1400s, and it was the 2nd best selling book behind only the Bible for over 200 years.

    From Wikipedia


    The Malleus elevates sorcery to the criminal status of heresy and prescribes inquisitorial practices for secular courts in order to extirpate witches. The recommended procedures include torture to effectively obtain confessions and the death penalty as the only sure remedy against the evils of witchcraft. At that time, it was typical to burn heretics alive at the stake and the Malleus encouraged the same treatment of witches. The book had a strong influence on culture for several centuries.
     
    The ironies here are that the Malleus relationship with Gutenberg's press is a damn fine distant mirror of SJW's on the Internet. Additionally, the Malleus now reads like a guidebook for SJWs. Simply replace witches in the book with non-woke, and voila! You'll get your SJW recipe for dealing with Thought Criminals going forward. The parallels are eerie.

    The Malleus Maleficarum is divided into three sections. The first section is aimed at clergy and tries to refute critics who deny the reality of witchcraft, thereby hindering its prosecution. The second lays the foundation for the next section by describing the actual forms of witchcraft and its remedies. The third section is to assist judges confronting and combating witchcraft, and to aid the inquisitors by removing the burden from them. However, each of these three sections has the prevailing themes of what is witchcraft and who is a witch.

    Kramer wrote the Malleus following his expulsion from Innsbruck by the local bishop, due to charges of illegal behavior against Kramer himself, and because of Kramer's obsession with the sexual habits of one of the accused, Helena Scheuberin, which led the other tribunal members to suspend the trial.

    It was later used by royal courts during the Renaissance, and contributed to the increasingly brutal prosecution of witchcraft during the 16th and 17th centuries.
     

    , @Desiderius
    New generations kill waves. They want to do their own thing.

    Feminism is best ignored and/or affectionately teased or gently mocked. As with David French and his ilk, the worst thing to do is to take it seriously. It’s already overdone that on its own.
    , @Mr Puroik
    What killed second wave feminism? Boomers growing up. The zeitgeist changing. The 'counterculture' world of the sixties collapsed in the harsh reality of the 1970s, when it became clear that cultural and moral change was actually causing deterioration and disaster. A lot of the initial sex-addicted hippie feminists woke up when their world became one of high crime, skyrocketing divorce rates, the destruction of families and established forms of social solidarity, etc. which of course have only gotten worse since then.

    Second-wave feminism was one of the many casualties of America's backlash against the '60s which lasted from about 1978 until 2010 or so. The progressive dream wasn't reached, people realized that they were happier and better adjusted trying to become productive members of society rather than trying to fiddle with time-honored social institutions. Of course this period also led to some really bad ideas like neoliberalism, but even that could be seen as a reaction to the pie-in-the-sky utopianism of the counterculture. I remember growing up in the 90s hearing about feminism being regarded largely as a joke. Even on PC television sitcoms it was usually made fun of. This lasted through the 2000s as well. By this time, most of the supposed 'demands' of second wave feminism had been met, often even exceeding any actual push for 'equality' and heading straight into giving the Fairer Sex special treatment (the majority of college graduates have been women now for at least 20 years and probably longer, largely thanks to affirmative action). People that were still pushing feminism looked even more frivolous, bourgeois, and out-of-touch than they ever had. Ironically, it was (and still is) the most 'oppressed' group of women (the working class) who had the least interest in feminism, probably because they were too busy actually leading their lives and being screwed over by their actual enemies, the Corporate Class (who use feminism, like other identity issues, to hide their own role in making society worse for everyone). It didn't help that by then feminism was already moving on to its 'third wave', which was seen as so utterly ludicrous and way-outside-the-Overton-Window for the 80s-2000s that even most liberal elites wanted to distance themselves from it.

    I imagine something similar will happen in the 2020s and beyond. Wokeness is not a winning strategy long term. Celebrating the freak and the weirdo is easy to do for a little while, but in the long run it engenders backlash, especially when things get tough. Not surprisingly it was an objective worsening of the average American's life that put an end to all the 60s bullshit during the late 70s. The 'Great Awokening' of the past few years is a fad, but its embers are already beginning to die out in most of the world outside of the elitist Left and east coasts (and a few token media-run corporate cities in flyover country, like Nashville - the music capital - or Chicago - home of the Black Messiah). Free love in the 60s led to abstinence-only sex education in the 80s and 90s. New Age and wicca crap during the 60s led to Satanic Panic in the 80s and 90s. And since the corporate media is pushing all this wokeness, it's likely to lead to a particularly strong populist working-class backlash as the lives of ordinary people continue to deteriorate even as the freaks, losers and genetic waste are celebrated for their 'individuality' and 'diversity'

    I wonder how many 'witches' of the 21st century West know anything at all about traditional folk religion. I imagine the answer is that they know nothing at all. Folk religion, which today is mostly practiced by peasants alongside 'official' religions like Christianity, Islam, Buddhism etc. isn't especially woke or feminist. Most shamans in traditional cultures are men. And since it is mostly found in highly collectivist cultures, real life paganism or folk religion is usually quite un-accepting of freaks, weirdos, or irresponsible people who refuse to do their duty and get married/reproduce. Yet more liberal wishful thinking about a Rousseauian past that has nothing to do with how traditional peoples actually lived.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Third wave feminism?
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    The election of Ronald Reagan at the beginning of the 1980s marks the end of the "revolutionary" 1960s acting out of the Baby Boomers. Suddenly career and material success was cool. This was the beginning of "Yuppies."

    Things like feminism, witchcraft, astrology and New Age BS settled into niches and bloomed in enclaves like Boulder, Colorado but faded into irrelevancy everywhere else until now.

    Former hippies went to training and became stock brokers. I'm not kidding: One I knew, a Jew from Brooklyn, had landed in Boulder when his VW hippy van broke down there after taking him all the way from New York. By the middle of the Eighties, he had bought a very nice house at the foot of the Flatirons with the little fortune he had made churning, um, I mean trading, stocks for clients.

    One annoying thing about our older brothers and sisters of the Sixties is how hyper-conventional and materialistic they became when they grew up. After the energy crisis of the Seventies ended, they were the first ones to buy the giant, fuel-guzzling trucks we now call SUVs. They were the original buyers and inhabitants of McMansions. They were the first limousine liberals. They prepared the world for the absurdity we have now. (I should know; I am one of their little brothers and went right along with them.)

  51. Let’s talk about how magical I am!

  52. @SFG
    I would agree with slightly crazy. The whole witch thing never got the most stable people. I read the books back in the 90s and it was a couple of lower-status high school kids who did it.Kind of the same people who would play D&D a few years earlier (though skewing more female obviously), and there is a lot of overlap for obvious reasons--magic!

    I think this happens in cycles--the last big feminist wave came in the 70s after 'free love' meant lots of cads sleeping around. Women (as a group) hate that no longer what bizarre ideologies they create to deny it, so they started with 'all sex was rape' and things like that.

    Now the internet led to hookup culture and women being upset, plus nobody (male or female) below about 35 can read social cues because they spend all their time online, so they decide to classify everything as assault, and hopefully make men behave politely and respect all their feelings--a sort of New Victorianism. Without the the big scientific advances and expansion of national power, of course.

    All IMHO, naturally.

    Out of curiosity, anyone who was around remember what killed second-wave feminism, and any way we can speed it along this time?

    I don’t know what killed second-wave feminism, but the Malleus Maleficarum aka Hammer of Witches is a fascinating backstory.

    It was written by a priest–Heinrich Kramer– in the late 1400s, and it was the 2nd best selling book behind only the Bible for over 200 years.

    From Wikipedia

    The Malleus elevates sorcery to the criminal status of heresy and prescribes inquisitorial practices for secular courts in order to extirpate witches. The recommended procedures include torture to effectively obtain confessions and the death penalty as the only sure remedy against the evils of witchcraft. At that time, it was typical to burn heretics alive at the stake and the Malleus encouraged the same treatment of witches. The book had a strong influence on culture for several centuries.

    The ironies here are that the Malleus relationship with Gutenberg’s press is a damn fine distant mirror of SJW’s on the Internet. Additionally, the Malleus now reads like a guidebook for SJWs. Simply replace witches in the book with non-woke, and voila! You’ll get your SJW recipe for dealing with Thought Criminals going forward. The parallels are eerie.

    The Malleus Maleficarum is divided into three sections. The first section is aimed at clergy and tries to refute critics who deny the reality of witchcraft, thereby hindering its prosecution. The second lays the foundation for the next section by describing the actual forms of witchcraft and its remedies. The third section is to assist judges confronting and combating witchcraft, and to aid the inquisitors by removing the burden from them. However, each of these three sections has the prevailing themes of what is witchcraft and who is a witch.

    Kramer wrote the Malleus following his expulsion from Innsbruck by the local bishop, due to charges of illegal behavior against Kramer himself, and because of Kramer’s obsession with the sexual habits of one of the accused, Helena Scheuberin, which led the other tribunal members to suspend the trial.

    It was later used by royal courts during the Renaissance, and contributed to the increasingly brutal prosecution of witchcraft during the 16th and 17th centuries.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Additionally, the Malleus now reads like a guidebook for SJWs. Simply replace witches in the book with non-woke, and voila! You’ll get your SJW recipe for dealing with Thought Criminals going forward. The parallels are eerie.
     
    You have this absolutely ass-backwards. The witches and heretics of the 15th and 16th centuries were the SJWs of their time. Their beliefs and their program were the same then and now. They were and remain the only real "thought criminals," still ensconced in their heresy. It does not matter that what was once a fringe movement has now become the dominant ideology. Heresy does not graduate to orthodoxy by being ascendant; theological correctness is not decided by majority vote. The Church was correct in dealing with these deviants harshly, even though the actual persecutions were far fewer and milder than is currently supposed.

    The proper attitude for anyone who claims to be on the side of right is to pick up the Hammer and use it yourself against the old enemy, not to whine about free speech. Fools like you are doing the witches' work and you don't even realize it. This is the very reason why conservatives are bankrupt of ideas and bereft of success.
  53. When you believe in things
    That you don’t understand
    Then you suffer
    Superstition ain’t the way
    No, no, no

  54. @SFG
    I would agree with slightly crazy. The whole witch thing never got the most stable people. I read the books back in the 90s and it was a couple of lower-status high school kids who did it.Kind of the same people who would play D&D a few years earlier (though skewing more female obviously), and there is a lot of overlap for obvious reasons--magic!

    I think this happens in cycles--the last big feminist wave came in the 70s after 'free love' meant lots of cads sleeping around. Women (as a group) hate that no longer what bizarre ideologies they create to deny it, so they started with 'all sex was rape' and things like that.

    Now the internet led to hookup culture and women being upset, plus nobody (male or female) below about 35 can read social cues because they spend all their time online, so they decide to classify everything as assault, and hopefully make men behave politely and respect all their feelings--a sort of New Victorianism. Without the the big scientific advances and expansion of national power, of course.

    All IMHO, naturally.

    Out of curiosity, anyone who was around remember what killed second-wave feminism, and any way we can speed it along this time?

    New generations kill waves. They want to do their own thing.

    Feminism is best ignored and/or affectionately teased or gently mocked. As with David French and his ilk, the worst thing to do is to take it seriously. It’s already overdone that on its own.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    This might have some merit, but like many here on iSteve dawt com treating this shit like whimsy is idiocy when they have the cultural high ground and they decide who is doing what to whom.

    You can ignore the NYT flavor of the month all you want until you get torpedoed for not bowing to Globohomo sufficiently. Let me know how your gentle teasing works out then.

    , @L Woods
    Yeah, that’s exactly what conservatives have done for the past century. That’s sure worked out great.
  55. @SFG
    I would agree with slightly crazy. The whole witch thing never got the most stable people. I read the books back in the 90s and it was a couple of lower-status high school kids who did it.Kind of the same people who would play D&D a few years earlier (though skewing more female obviously), and there is a lot of overlap for obvious reasons--magic!

    I think this happens in cycles--the last big feminist wave came in the 70s after 'free love' meant lots of cads sleeping around. Women (as a group) hate that no longer what bizarre ideologies they create to deny it, so they started with 'all sex was rape' and things like that.

    Now the internet led to hookup culture and women being upset, plus nobody (male or female) below about 35 can read social cues because they spend all their time online, so they decide to classify everything as assault, and hopefully make men behave politely and respect all their feelings--a sort of New Victorianism. Without the the big scientific advances and expansion of national power, of course.

    All IMHO, naturally.

    Out of curiosity, anyone who was around remember what killed second-wave feminism, and any way we can speed it along this time?

    What killed second wave feminism? Boomers growing up. The zeitgeist changing. The ‘counterculture’ world of the sixties collapsed in the harsh reality of the 1970s, when it became clear that cultural and moral change was actually causing deterioration and disaster. A lot of the initial sex-addicted hippie feminists woke up when their world became one of high crime, skyrocketing divorce rates, the destruction of families and established forms of social solidarity, etc. which of course have only gotten worse since then.

    Second-wave feminism was one of the many casualties of America’s backlash against the ’60s which lasted from about 1978 until 2010 or so. The progressive dream wasn’t reached, people realized that they were happier and better adjusted trying to become productive members of society rather than trying to fiddle with time-honored social institutions. Of course this period also led to some really bad ideas like neoliberalism, but even that could be seen as a reaction to the pie-in-the-sky utopianism of the counterculture. I remember growing up in the 90s hearing about feminism being regarded largely as a joke. Even on PC television sitcoms it was usually made fun of. This lasted through the 2000s as well. By this time, most of the supposed ‘demands’ of second wave feminism had been met, often even exceeding any actual push for ‘equality’ and heading straight into giving the Fairer Sex special treatment (the majority of college graduates have been women now for at least 20 years and probably longer, largely thanks to affirmative action). People that were still pushing feminism looked even more frivolous, bourgeois, and out-of-touch than they ever had. Ironically, it was (and still is) the most ‘oppressed’ group of women (the working class) who had the least interest in feminism, probably because they were too busy actually leading their lives and being screwed over by their actual enemies, the Corporate Class (who use feminism, like other identity issues, to hide their own role in making society worse for everyone). It didn’t help that by then feminism was already moving on to its ‘third wave’, which was seen as so utterly ludicrous and way-outside-the-Overton-Window for the 80s-2000s that even most liberal elites wanted to distance themselves from it.

    I imagine something similar will happen in the 2020s and beyond. Wokeness is not a winning strategy long term. Celebrating the freak and the weirdo is easy to do for a little while, but in the long run it engenders backlash, especially when things get tough. Not surprisingly it was an objective worsening of the average American’s life that put an end to all the 60s bullshit during the late 70s. The ‘Great Awokening’ of the past few years is a fad, but its embers are already beginning to die out in most of the world outside of the elitist Left and east coasts (and a few token media-run corporate cities in flyover country, like Nashville – the music capital – or Chicago – home of the Black Messiah). Free love in the 60s led to abstinence-only sex education in the 80s and 90s. New Age and wicca crap during the 60s led to Satanic Panic in the 80s and 90s. And since the corporate media is pushing all this wokeness, it’s likely to lead to a particularly strong populist working-class backlash as the lives of ordinary people continue to deteriorate even as the freaks, losers and genetic waste are celebrated for their ‘individuality’ and ‘diversity’

    I wonder how many ‘witches’ of the 21st century West know anything at all about traditional folk religion. I imagine the answer is that they know nothing at all. Folk religion, which today is mostly practiced by peasants alongside ‘official’ religions like Christianity, Islam, Buddhism etc. isn’t especially woke or feminist. Most shamans in traditional cultures are men. And since it is mostly found in highly collectivist cultures, real life paganism or folk religion is usually quite un-accepting of freaks, weirdos, or irresponsible people who refuse to do their duty and get married/reproduce. Yet more liberal wishful thinking about a Rousseauian past that has nothing to do with how traditional peoples actually lived.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
  56. Her night job might be casting spells, but her day job is actually quite similar – projecting fantasy onto the world to try to change it:

    By curating stock photos of women in settings from construction sites to the boardroom, Pam Grossman has helped Getty Images change the perception of women … by cultivating stock photos of women of many races and ages in the workplace, the sciences, and the military,

    https://jwa.org/people/grossman-pam

    So all those pics she took of successful black women CEOs were a kind of voodoo spell of cargo cult capitalism. In Papua New Guinea, the locals build simple wooden models of planes to try to replicate the white mans magic. Pam Grossman does the same with her camera.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    https://www.jwtintelligence.com/2016/01/pam-grossman-director-visual-trends-getty-images/

    ... Search is one of the many tools that Pam Grossman, director, visual trends at Getty Images, uses to predict where our collective aesthetic is heading. What she discovers often bridges the gap between aesthetics and sociology ...

    Let’s talk about the trends you’ve identified for 2016. Do you see the gender thread moving through any of the other trends this year?

    I think this goes into Outsider In, and Messthetics, and maybe Divine Living, but in subtler ways. Outsider In, I think, is the crux of this: people who were once considered fringe or marginal, whatever that means, are being more readily celebrated. Which is really exciting if you think about it, this idea that now everybody seems to want to be rebelling against the status quo.

    For example, the Pirelli calendar this year is a really good example for me of Outsider In, because it’s Pirelli kind of rebelling against its own brand, rebelling against their own tradition of showing stereotypically seductive, perfect-looking women, and instead celebrating these iconoclasts, and creators, and women of all ages, shapes, body types, and ethnicities. To me, that’s a really good example of Outsider In.
     
    , @Known Fact
    Former biz editor here, and boy do I love stock photos! Pix of women in hardhats directing male construction workers ... pix of women in goggles peering intently at test-tubes filled with colored liquids ... pix of shoulder-padded babes pointing at charts in boardroom meetings as silver-haired males look on admiringly...
  57. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Yes, but are you a good witch or a bad witch?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyvRyxpvDi8

    That’s for her rabbi to decide.

  58. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    There’s a range between bitter screeching witches and comely mysterious witches. Be careful out there, especially with the latter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuoQgkPKplQ

    I think Bugs Bunny had the correct frame of mind on that issue:

    • Replies: @newrouter
    Thanks for that lol
  59. @Mr McKenna
    Is It OK to Hex a Nazi? How Anti-Fascist Witches Are Mobilizing Under Trump

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/j5eppk/is-it-ok-to-hex-a-nazi-how-anti-fascist-witches-are-mobilizing-under-trump

    Is It OK to Hex a Nazi?

    Just don’t make them think about the Hexenhammer.

  60. @Sextus Empiricus
    WOCs (Witches of Color) in Baltimore:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/11/black-millennials-african-witchcraft-christianity/574393/

    By the way, yesterday I finally realized why it’s Women of Color and not Females of Color.

  61. @Lot
    James I was likely one of the smartest English monarchs.

    Any other nominations?

    If Jane Grey’s 9-day reigns qualifies her, at 16 she spoke several languages and her tutor reported when he first met her she was reading Plato when the rest of the household was enjoying the outdoors.

    Henry VIII, like James I, considered himself a scholar, and wrote a fair amount.

    If Jane Grey’s 9-day reigns qualifies her, at 16 she spoke several languages and her tutor reported when he first met her she was reading Plato when the rest of the household was enjoying the outdoors.

    Nobody likes a tryhard, JANE.

  62. John says: • Website

    I propose a change to the content and layout of this page. Instead of Big Steve’s Twitter feed, I prefer to see the comments he posts on these stupid New York Times pieces. Hyperlinks won’t work, not for me anyway – I will not pay a penny to NYT, WaPo, etc. for a subscription – but I would accept screen captures.

    I presume Steve does pay for access to horrible organs, so I hope he is exploiting it to the full and sending his commentary to them. I would not mind if he uses the money I sometimes send him, though if he’s spending it on golf or a new pet rabbit, that is fine. But there is no point in telling me here what I already know about the savagery of modern news media. Please tell them and their readers about it, directly.

  63. @BB753
    It's not paganism, it's satanism. Did you miss the documentary "Hail Satan!" about the temple of Satan? It's becoming mainstream, as it's the religion of the elites.


    https://youtu.be/LiNRWuV5Taw

    From the trailer:

    “confronting injustice is an expression of one’s Satanic faith.”

    Sheesh, even I could be a better Satanist than these low grade larpers.

    Creating injustice is an expression of one’s Satanic unfaith.

    FIFY

    It doesn’t say much for modern Satanism that their Satanism is really just wanker-tier Christianity.

    • Replies: @BB753
    Of course, it would be bad PR for them to present themselves as hard-core Satanists. Some of their followers are larpers, some are into the real stuff. But never doubt that the inner circles of those covens do practice black masses with satanic invocations and worship, animal and human sacrifices, drinking blood, orgies, etc.
    And it's far from a new practice, it's been going on for centuries. Except today many of the top government officials, politicians, tycoons, journalists, entertainers, etc, are practicing Satanists.
    , @Clifford Brown

    It doesn’t say much for modern Satanism that their Satanism is really just wanker-tier Christianity.
     
    I view the Satanic Temple as basically Unitarianism for antifa and black metal types. It appears to largely exist to engage in atheistic political posturing. For the record, I have never met a bad Unitarian, I just think they might not be a religion.

    Why call yourself the Satanic Temple if you don't believe in Satan? Why the insistence with the Baphomet statues on state capital property if it is all a big larp by atheists? What religion builds statues to a deity that it does not believe in? None of this makes any sense. If the purpose is to simply shock Christians, it hardly seems like a religious organization, but more of a political one.

    It's either a Trojan Horse for something else (an esoteric/ exoteric type operation) or a really lame prank.
  64. From Melania Geymolat’s Couchsurfing page:

    love talking about zodiac with conservative people who thinks thats too hippie

  65. OT: Air China magazine warns London visitors to avoid ethnic minority areas

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/07/air-chinas-safety-tips-for-london-visitors-may-raise-eyebrows.html

    I didn’t think Indian areas in London were bad.

  66. @SFG
    I would agree with slightly crazy. The whole witch thing never got the most stable people. I read the books back in the 90s and it was a couple of lower-status high school kids who did it.Kind of the same people who would play D&D a few years earlier (though skewing more female obviously), and there is a lot of overlap for obvious reasons--magic!

    I think this happens in cycles--the last big feminist wave came in the 70s after 'free love' meant lots of cads sleeping around. Women (as a group) hate that no longer what bizarre ideologies they create to deny it, so they started with 'all sex was rape' and things like that.

    Now the internet led to hookup culture and women being upset, plus nobody (male or female) below about 35 can read social cues because they spend all their time online, so they decide to classify everything as assault, and hopefully make men behave politely and respect all their feelings--a sort of New Victorianism. Without the the big scientific advances and expansion of national power, of course.

    All IMHO, naturally.

    Out of curiosity, anyone who was around remember what killed second-wave feminism, and any way we can speed it along this time?

    Third wave feminism?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Third wave feminism?
     
    Isn't a fourth wave due?

    Some of us are old enough to remember when women were known for permanent waves.


    https://thehistoryofthehairsworld.com/perm_1stprice_1935_2.jpg


    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/--V0KQOUVpnk/WxF1uaLqOsI/AAAAAAADJ_A/nvfqdSEHPK0oHAsg1XMh6G-ikLOnzfzmQCLcBGAs/s640/Icall_1934_Wireless_Permanent_Waving_Machine.jpg
  67. I saw a young woman (about 30), in Target last week dressed as a witch.

  68. Anonymous[122] • Disclaimer says:

    Addams family was trad. Horror is considered a ‘conservative’ genre. Twilight has been called ‘conservative’ too.

    But it seems Harry Potter had the biggest impact. And homos are like unicorns than people. Magical creatures from fairyland. And Magic Negro tropes have encouraged superstitious thinking. And tranny phenom is based on fantastical thinking that men can be women. No wonder so many can fall for a hoax like Russia Collusion and call for a hex on Trump.

    Why witch? Why not goddess? If feminists want to espouse witches(who messed up Macbeth), the other side should take up goddesses. So much better.

  69. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    There’s a range between bitter screeching witches and comely mysterious witches. Be careful out there, especially with the latter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuoQgkPKplQ

    Agree.

    Truth is, every woman is a witch. And that’s the way it should be. Her powers run the spectrum from light to dark. She herself is a vessel, literally and figuratively. Since she’s not handed a script at birth, it’s up to her to figure out how to master or tame the power she finds herself in possession of/possessed by.

    Of course, the only way to establish proper boundaries is to go until you make a bad mistake and then backtrack or ease off a bit. This means that every worthwhile woman has, at some point, screwed over a good, deserving man.

    But we guys can’t let that bother us too much. It’s just the way of the world. We’ve done the compliment. So we should stop making fun of or complaining about women’s witchery. Would you men really have it any different? After all, any guy who hasn’t been literally enchanted by a bewitching woman at some point in his life hasn’t drunk deeply enough from the Cup.

  70. @SFG
    Right. They thought magic actually could happen (when you don't have germ theory things like disease start to look like evil curses), so they're not going to have a conception of 'belief in magic, which is wrong'.

    You still had people who thought more rationally--there was a monk who argued that most of the women accused were ugly, and the first thing any woman making a deal with the devil would ask for was beauty, so most likely the devil was not actually involved. But, really, who knew why your cows were getting sick?

    “and the first thing any woman making a deal with the devil would ask for was beauty”

    a most cogent observation.

    And Paris, given the choice of presenting the apple labeled “for the fairest” gave it not to the Goddess of Wisdom nor to the Goddess who wielded Earthly Power, but to the enchanting, ravishing Goddess of Love.

    Just a brief review of the wisdom of the Greeks, from Wiki

    “In celebration of the marriage of Peleus and Thetis, Lord Zeus, father of the Greek pantheon, hosted a banquet on Mount Olympus. Every deity and demi-god had been invited, except Eris, the goddess of strife (no one wanted a troublemaker at a wedding). For revenge, Eris threw the golden Apple of Discord inscribed with the word “kallisti” – “For the most beautiful” – into the party, provoking a squabble among the attendant goddesses over for whom it had been meant.

    The goddesses thought to be the most beautiful were Hera, Athena, and Aphrodite, and each one claimed the apple. They started a quarrel so they asked Zeus to choose one of them. Knowing that choosing any of them would bring him the hatred of the other two, Zeus did not want to take part in the decision. He thus appointed Paris to select the most beautiful.

    Escorted by Hermes, the three goddesses bathed in the spring of Mount Ida and approached Paris as he herded his cattle. Having been given permission by Zeus to set any conditions he saw fit, Paris required that the goddesses undress before him[5] (alternatively, the goddesses themselves chose to disrobe to show all their beauty). Still, Paris could not decide, as all three were ideally beautiful, so the goddesses attempted to bribe him to choose among them. Hera offered ownership of all of Europe and Asia. Athena offered skill in battle, wisdom and the abilities of the greatest warriors. Aphrodite offered the love of the most beautiful woman on Earth: Helen of Sparta. Paris chose Aphrodite and therefore Helen.

    Helen was already married to King Menelaus of Sparta (a fact Aphrodite neglected to mention), so Paris had to raid Menelaus’s house to steal Helen from him – according to some accounts, she fell in love with Paris and left willingly.

    The Greeks’ expedition to retrieve Helen from Paris in Troy is the mythological basis of the Trojan War. This triggered the war because Helen was famous for her beauty throughout Achaea (ancient Greece), and had many suitors of extraordinary ability. Therefore, following Odysseus’s advice, her father Tyndareus made all suitors promise to defend Helen’s marriage to the man he chose for her. When Paris took her to Troy, Menelaus invoked this oath. Helen’s other suitors – who between them represented the lion’s share of Achaea’s strength, wealth and military prowess – were obliged to help bring her back. Thus, the whole of Greece moved against Troy in force and the Trojan War began.”

  71. @obwandiyag
    Warren G. Harding.

    Sure. Let women vote. Why not? What could possibly go wrong with that?

    Warren G. Harding.

    Our most underrated president. Courtesy of Ron:

    A Few Kind Words for Warren G. Harding

    It’s hard to think of a better defense of women’s suffrage than Harding and Coolidge.

    • Agree: Cloudbuster
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    I think O doesn't believe his ancestors would've been sterilized if we'd kept down the Wilson road. Oh, wait a second....
  72. @Anon
    Wow! Good catch. The daggers are out for the guy.

    https://nypost.com/2019/06/08/richard-carranza-accused-of-waiving-protocol-to-hire-pals-in-high-ranking-jobs/

    Sounds like some money laundering or structuring going on with the guy's last employer submitting 28 sequential $25,000 invoices to avoid triggering the comptroller. Normally a structuring filter would catch something like this, but by having purchase orders from different schools, maybe it would slip through. I would check for kickbacks in the guy's bank account. But his benefit may simply be that he knows he can get his old job back at any time.

    But he was born in America to immigrant parents, so this isn’t an instance of minority, hispanic crime. No, it’s going to be tabulated under the “White, white collar crime” column head.

  73. @Mr. Anon

    By Pam Grossman
    June 6, 2019

    You could say I was primed to be a witch from an early age. …
     

    These are the sort of people who, long about 2003 or 2004, referred to themselves as "The Science Based Community".

    At least she's good looking. If you're going to claim to be a "witch", then it helps to look more like Elizabeth Montgomery than like some old hag.

    “At least she’s good looking. If you’re going to claim to be a ‘witch’, then it helps to look more like Elizabeth Montgomery than like some old hag.”

    It helps her. It certainly doesn’t help our side. I don’t want her to be helped to be taken seriously. In a sane society, she would be ridiculed and scorned for making such statements publicly, possibly institutionalized. Instead she’s given a public platform in a well-known newspaper.

    Just because someone is ridiculous and risible does not mean he, she or it in all its they variations, is not dangerous. It is because people of her ilk have been taken seriously as serious thinkers, policy makers and trend setters that we’re in the fix we’re in today.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    The boomers here refuse to admit that they might be threatened by a woman (or any number of women) in any way. It’s the last refuge of the white man’s ever sadder machismo.
    , @Mr. Anon
    I agree. I don't welcome the fact that these people are taken seriously. It is merely one more manifestation of clown-world.
  74. @Almost Missouri
    From the trailer:

    "confronting injustice is an expression of one's Satanic faith."
     
    Sheesh, even I could be a better Satanist than these low grade larpers.

    Creating injustice is an expression of one's Satanic unfaith.
     
    FIFY

    It doesn't say much for modern Satanism that their Satanism is really just wanker-tier Christianity.

    Of course, it would be bad PR for them to present themselves as hard-core Satanists. Some of their followers are larpers, some are into the real stuff. But never doubt that the inner circles of those covens do practice black masses with satanic invocations and worship, animal and human sacrifices, drinking blood, orgies, etc.
    And it’s far from a new practice, it’s been going on for centuries. Except today many of the top government officials, politicians, tycoons, journalists, entertainers, etc, are practicing Satanists.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    https://dailystormer.name/dr-pizza-ars-technica-journalist-peter-bright-arrested-for-plotting-to-do-anal-on-7-and-9-year-old-girls/
    [Note that if you are at work, you probably do not want this site in your browsing history.]

    tl;dr: Journalist arrested for conspiracy to rape children. This by itself is not so unusual, nor is the deafening silence of his fellow journalists in not covering the story, but also ... his twitter timeline is full of smirking references to ... pizza. But Pizzagate is just a conspiracy theory.
  75. @Buffalo Joe
    Monty Python had a great sketch in "The Holy Grail"about trying witches by dunking them. Maybe some one can link.

  76. @Desiderius
    New generations kill waves. They want to do their own thing.

    Feminism is best ignored and/or affectionately teased or gently mocked. As with David French and his ilk, the worst thing to do is to take it seriously. It’s already overdone that on its own.

    This might have some merit, but like many here on iSteve dawt com treating this shit like whimsy is idiocy when they have the cultural high ground and they decide who is doing what to whom.

    You can ignore the NYT flavor of the month all you want until you get torpedoed for not bowing to Globohomo sufficiently. Let me know how your gentle teasing works out then.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    They got the high ground because conservatives put them on a pedestal and worshipped them. Kavanaugh’s binders full of women are pathetic.

    Conservatives are terrified of mocking or teasing anyone, lest they get excommunicated from Niceanity.
  77. Amazingly some of you have gotten even worst at reading the current cultural trends. This isn’t some 70s counterculture people will “grow out of it” (which they didn’t), its hear to stay until we hit an event that puts the brakes on unchecked hedonism.

    Drag kids being pushed at 1000% and some of you are still doing your “heh, look at the crazies”.

    • Agree: L Woods
    • Replies: @dfordoom

    This isn’t some 70s counterculture people will “grow out of it” (which they didn’t), its hear to stay until we hit an event that puts the brakes on unchecked hedonism.

    Drag kids being pushed at 1000% and some of you are still doing your “heh, look at the crazies”.
     
    Yes, you're right.

    The 60s/70s counterculture did not disappear. It infiltrated the mainstream. The craziness, the degeneracy, the toxic feminism, the homosexual agenda - all the seriously bad ideas of the counterculture became part of the mainstream.

    What passes for respectable conservative mainstream culture today would have shocked and sickened ordinary people in the 1950s.

    And the infiltration of diseased and depraved ideas into the mainstream has never stopped and it is continuing at full speed today.

    And as for the conservative backlash, it never happened and it doesn't look like happening. The 80s did not represent a conservative backlash - it was simply crass materialism, hedonism and consumerism turned into a cult.
  78. @Desiderius
    New generations kill waves. They want to do their own thing.

    Feminism is best ignored and/or affectionately teased or gently mocked. As with David French and his ilk, the worst thing to do is to take it seriously. It’s already overdone that on its own.

    Yeah, that’s exactly what conservatives have done for the past century. That’s sure worked out great.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Please, they’ve been keeping their binders full of women to show that Ds are the real sexists. If they pandered any more to feminists they’d be licking their feet.
  79. @Kylie
    "At least she’s good looking. If you’re going to claim to be a 'witch', then it helps to look more like Elizabeth Montgomery than like some old hag."

    It helps her. It certainly doesn't help our side. I don't want her to be helped to be taken seriously. In a sane society, she would be ridiculed and scorned for making such statements publicly, possibly institutionalized. Instead she's given a public platform in a well-known newspaper.

    Just because someone is ridiculous and risible does not mean he, she or it in all its they variations, is not dangerous. It is because people of her ilk have been taken seriously as serious thinkers, policy makers and trend setters that we're in the fix we're in today.

    The boomers here refuse to admit that they might be threatened by a woman (or any number of women) in any way. It’s the last refuge of the white man’s ever sadder machismo.

  80. Lol!! Hoping the Dems spend millions on witches to put a hex on Trump in 2020.

  81. @Hypnotoad666
    The Saudis are still on the case and actively prosecuting witches. I'd advise this eco-feminist witchy woman to cross the Kingdom off her future travel plans.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/278701/

    Africa is also a place a witch should avoid. Also, non-witches should avoid.

  82. Just because someone is ridiculous and risible does not mean he, she or it in all its they variations, is not dangerous.

    Or not of some good. Heather Mills may have been a batty wife, but her anti-landmine campaign is noble enough.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    True. We would do well to distinguish brtween the persona and the person.

    But when I see right-thinking people laughing at leftists ( few of whom are not ridiculous if only because the beliefs they hold are so delusional and outlandish), I'm reminded of the elites in the early 1930's who laughed at Hitler. That mustache! That hair! That voice! They didn't stop to think about the multitudes who took him seriously for all the wrong reasons. Ten years later, nobody was laughing.

  83. @Almost Missouri
    Third wave feminism?

    Third wave feminism?

    Isn’t a fourth wave due?

    Some of us are old enough to remember when women were known for permanent waves.

    • LOL: Lot
    • Replies: @SFG
    That was pretty funny.

    They're already on the fourth wave (more or less), the third wave was in the 90s and was more of a 'girl power' thing.

    I hate to link Vox, but they'd probably know their own movement well enough:

    https://www.vox.com/2018/3/20/16955588/feminism-waves-explained-first-second-third-fourth

    It did answer my question: Reagan. Unfortunately, I don't see a conservative revival coming; between Bernie and AOC, the young are definitely lefty.

    , @anon
    The fourth wave of feminism is lapping at our shores. If a tsunami can be described as a wave lapping at a shore, that is.

    https://youtu.be/briS1bI7yeY?t=19
  84. @Anon
    OT

    The Atlantic has shored up their "Shakespeare was a chick" article with seven new articles published simultaneously, most of which seem somewhat sympathetic to the theory. There's an overview piece, five pieces from outside "authorities," and a "letters" post which links to Quillette's epic takedown of the original article and has a vague response from the writer of the original article.

    Giving the Atlantic editors the benefit of the doubt, I think the original piece was probably a zeitgeisty, "Take that, white male patriarchy!" clickbait success, so they decided to milk it some more. Gotta pay the bills. They probably found their "authorities" in their Twitter retweets and hired them on the cheap.

    Does this mean they’re going to reverse course on the push to reduce Shakespeare in the curriculum? This is actually a clever way to keep the great canon of literature intact. “You’re still making kids read that old straight white male?” “No, you see, if you grossly overinterpret this letter to a friend of his that was recently found, he really felt that he was trans.” “Oh, carry on.”

  85. Just wait until more of those diverse Muslims show up. I’m sure the Quran has lots of wonderful things to say about pagans and witches.

  86. @Anon
    Wow! Good catch. The daggers are out for the guy.

    https://nypost.com/2019/06/08/richard-carranza-accused-of-waiving-protocol-to-hire-pals-in-high-ranking-jobs/

    Sounds like some money laundering or structuring going on with the guy's last employer submitting 28 sequential $25,000 invoices to avoid triggering the comptroller. Normally a structuring filter would catch something like this, but by having purchase orders from different schools, maybe it would slip through. I would check for kickbacks in the guy's bank account. But his benefit may simply be that he knows he can get his old job back at any time.

    Exactly the daggers are out.

    The next thing we will hear is that he is resigning and then they will suddenly find a left-wing Asian candidate to replace him. Of course this person will be entirely supportive of the Mayor’s initiative to kick most Asians out of the specialized high schools claiming ‘fairness’ or racial balance or something…

    This is very predictable.

    • Replies: @Evocatus
    Funny enough, the woman he replaced was a Spaniard (parents from Galicia):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmen_Fariña

    Fariña was born in Brooklyn, New York, to Galician parents who fled Spain during the Spanish Civil War, Fariña was the only Spanish-speaker in her kindergarten class and learned English in school. The language barrier was so severe, that Fariña's "teacher marked her absent every day for six weeks because Carmen then surnamed Guillén, did not answer when the teacher, who was of Irish background, called Quillan during roll call."
     
  87. @Kylie
    "At least she’s good looking. If you’re going to claim to be a 'witch', then it helps to look more like Elizabeth Montgomery than like some old hag."

    It helps her. It certainly doesn't help our side. I don't want her to be helped to be taken seriously. In a sane society, she would be ridiculed and scorned for making such statements publicly, possibly institutionalized. Instead she's given a public platform in a well-known newspaper.

    Just because someone is ridiculous and risible does not mean he, she or it in all its they variations, is not dangerous. It is because people of her ilk have been taken seriously as serious thinkers, policy makers and trend setters that we're in the fix we're in today.

    I agree. I don’t welcome the fact that these people are taken seriously. It is merely one more manifestation of clown-world.

  88. Anonymous[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @Disordered Deacon
    agreed. the pagan usual defense is that "oooh but Christians are so owordly and oppressive, they took the magick and the wonder from the natural world, my fave insta witch webcam model said so!", if leftist, or "oooh but Christians are so otherwordly and weak, they took the powerful gods of Apollo and Thor away, Nietzche and Spengler said so!" if rightwing. yeah, and the Colisseum and Vestal Virgins, and the burning of yule trees, and poligamy, and ritual raiding and raping, and other sacrifices or things we today consider "non-Western" that came with it the pretty robes and Celtic hexes and "democratic" Thing meetings. plus the saints and miracles and the Real Presence remain, as well as secular folklore, romantic hero myths, and seasonal secular celebrations such as carnivals and may days. even Aquinas recognized the ability of stars to influence due to being celestial bodies (but not for divination/horoscope purposes, more akin to lunar cycles), and other saints mentioned meeting otherwordly creatures that were not necessarily devils but definitely were not human and as such could have varying influence on humans and were best to be avoided and/or handled with care. ergo, a Christian can still remember All Hallows Eve without going crazy for it. meanwhile the pagans bend over themselves trying not to sound even more fetishistic and wishy washy with their gods than Christians with God.

    I think you had a rather interesting point there for a moment but it was dampened somewhat by the Faulkner-on-LSD delivery

  89. Bloomberg profiles the big four Silicon Valley real estate billionaires.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2019-silicon-valley-real-estate-boom/

    They are one Basque, one AJ, one Italian, and one Mormon.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    Great link...I read it all.
  90. @Bill P
    I've long thought paganism was silly, because nobody really believes the sun is driving a chariot across the sky, but it does hold some attraction for a lot of people as a belief system that stands against some set of norms they dislike for whatever reason.

    This is why you have both racial separatists and feminists identifying as "pagan" in the West. The former are against the utopian treacle that passes for public Christianity (e.g. MLKism), while the latter are in open revolt against their biology, which they suspect is God's fault.

    Both are fooling themselves (as well as making fools of themselves), because long before Jesus came along, the wisest of the pagans had already come to the conclusion that it was all a sham, and there really is only one God. So the truth is that paganism was already pretty well discredited by the time Christianity made it's debut, and it was not that difficult for men like St. Augustine to knock what remained of it down in the late Roman Empire.

    When it comes down to it these people are just LARPing their fantasy characters.

    Both are fooling themselves (as well as making fools of themselves), because long before Jesus came along, the wisest of the pagans had already come to the conclusion that it was all a sham, and there really is only one God.

    Reducing down to one is certainly moving in the right direction but it still leaves billions of people believing in what is essentially garbage.

    I am not suggesting that people are not entitled to have an attachment to the traditions of their culture and often religion has been an important factor in the development of those traditions. Many of the parables for example illustrate some important moral and philosophical points but I see no reason why a literal belief in supernatural entities is essential for moral and philosophical development. I am a fan of Aesops fables myself.

  91. @SFG
    I would agree with slightly crazy. The whole witch thing never got the most stable people. I read the books back in the 90s and it was a couple of lower-status high school kids who did it.Kind of the same people who would play D&D a few years earlier (though skewing more female obviously), and there is a lot of overlap for obvious reasons--magic!

    I think this happens in cycles--the last big feminist wave came in the 70s after 'free love' meant lots of cads sleeping around. Women (as a group) hate that no longer what bizarre ideologies they create to deny it, so they started with 'all sex was rape' and things like that.

    Now the internet led to hookup culture and women being upset, plus nobody (male or female) below about 35 can read social cues because they spend all their time online, so they decide to classify everything as assault, and hopefully make men behave politely and respect all their feelings--a sort of New Victorianism. Without the the big scientific advances and expansion of national power, of course.

    All IMHO, naturally.

    Out of curiosity, anyone who was around remember what killed second-wave feminism, and any way we can speed it along this time?

    The election of Ronald Reagan at the beginning of the 1980s marks the end of the “revolutionary” 1960s acting out of the Baby Boomers. Suddenly career and material success was cool. This was the beginning of “Yuppies.”

    Things like feminism, witchcraft, astrology and New Age BS settled into niches and bloomed in enclaves like Boulder, Colorado but faded into irrelevancy everywhere else until now.

    Former hippies went to training and became stock brokers. I’m not kidding: One I knew, a Jew from Brooklyn, had landed in Boulder when his VW hippy van broke down there after taking him all the way from New York. By the middle of the Eighties, he had bought a very nice house at the foot of the Flatirons with the little fortune he had made churning, um, I mean trading, stocks for clients.

    One annoying thing about our older brothers and sisters of the Sixties is how hyper-conventional and materialistic they became when they grew up. After the energy crisis of the Seventies ended, they were the first ones to buy the giant, fuel-guzzling trucks we now call SUVs. They were the original buyers and inhabitants of McMansions. They were the first limousine liberals. They prepared the world for the absurdity we have now. (I should know; I am one of their little brothers and went right along with them.)

    • Replies: @ricpic
    So does going "right along with them" mean that you too flipped quickly from idealist to materialist?
    , @Pericles

    Former hippies went to training and became stock brokers. I’m not kidding: One I knew, a Jew from Brooklyn,

     

    Wow, shocker. After destroying culture need to build up material assets, gogue plz help.
  92. @Reg Cæsar

    Third wave feminism?
     
    Isn't a fourth wave due?

    Some of us are old enough to remember when women were known for permanent waves.


    https://thehistoryofthehairsworld.com/perm_1stprice_1935_2.jpg


    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/--V0KQOUVpnk/WxF1uaLqOsI/AAAAAAADJ_A/nvfqdSEHPK0oHAsg1XMh6G-ikLOnzfzmQCLcBGAs/s640/Icall_1934_Wireless_Permanent_Waving_Machine.jpg

    That was pretty funny.

    They’re already on the fourth wave (more or less), the third wave was in the 90s and was more of a ‘girl power’ thing.

    I hate to link Vox, but they’d probably know their own movement well enough:

    https://www.vox.com/2018/3/20/16955588/feminism-waves-explained-first-second-third-fourth

    It did answer my question: Reagan. Unfortunately, I don’t see a conservative revival coming; between Bernie and AOC, the young are definitely lefty.

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    between Bernie and AOC, the young are definitely lefty.
     
    You’re consuming too much media.
    , @S. Anonyia
    The young are economically left. AOC and Bernie would not be that popular if they were generic leftists. Their appeal is that they push for socialized medicine and more reasonable working hours and getting rid of student loans. The majority of young people aren't into neoliberal corporate wokeness, though the most vocal proponents of it are the fanatical youngish tmblrinas. But honestly the SJWs would not have much of a platform were it not for baby boomers/gen X tastemakers mistaking tumblr voices for trendy millennial consensus and subsequently & cynically pushing those views on the public.
  93. @Daniel H
    OT: Up in olde New York, schools chancellor Carranza bypasses hiring procedures, hires a flunky and a couple of very pretty, young Chicana hotties from the old barrio. Was ratted out by nice, frumpy, middle class, good-white ladies, the individuals who do most of the productive and good work in the Leviathan that is New York public schools. The empire strikes back. Fireworks.

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/carranza-friends.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1033

    Up in olde New York, schools chancellor Carranza…

    They call him El Mariachi. Do you have a link to his hot Latinas hiring?

  94. @SFG
    That was pretty funny.

    They're already on the fourth wave (more or less), the third wave was in the 90s and was more of a 'girl power' thing.

    I hate to link Vox, but they'd probably know their own movement well enough:

    https://www.vox.com/2018/3/20/16955588/feminism-waves-explained-first-second-third-fourth

    It did answer my question: Reagan. Unfortunately, I don't see a conservative revival coming; between Bernie and AOC, the young are definitely lefty.

    between Bernie and AOC, the young are definitely lefty.

    You’re consuming too much media.

  95. @Lot
    Bloomberg profiles the big four Silicon Valley real estate billionaires.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2019-silicon-valley-real-estate-boom/

    They are one Basque, one AJ, one Italian, and one Mormon.

    Great link…I read it all.

  96. @Reg Cæsar

    Third wave feminism?
     
    Isn't a fourth wave due?

    Some of us are old enough to remember when women were known for permanent waves.


    https://thehistoryofthehairsworld.com/perm_1stprice_1935_2.jpg


    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/--V0KQOUVpnk/WxF1uaLqOsI/AAAAAAADJ_A/nvfqdSEHPK0oHAsg1XMh6G-ikLOnzfzmQCLcBGAs/s640/Icall_1934_Wireless_Permanent_Waving_Machine.jpg

    The fourth wave of feminism is lapping at our shores. If a tsunami can be described as a wave lapping at a shore, that is.

  97. @SFG
    Anarchists in the 20s and the NYC punk scene in the 70s-80s wasn't nearly entirely Jewish. The commies and 60s freaks I will give you and porn...well, if the Tribe didn't do that someone else would.

    By and large you're right though. In particular feminism in the 70s. I'd probably make some crack about Jewish guys being insufficiently masculine and thus they were fantasizing about manlier rapists, but a lot of them were gay.

    To me the NYT end of it seems to be the daughters and nieces of the original 70s crowd trying to act as if they've still got it though. Modern feminism seems more 'vibrant' as figures like Roxane Gay take the lead thanks to intersectionality. Perhaps the drop in verbal IQ will cause the movement to decay. One can always hope.

    There’s a niche for transgression in first world societies, if it’s not actively suppressed. There was an FT article about modern artists in Poland yesterday – women who eat bananas topless and do other sorts of groundbreaking performance art. Pretty much the entire Jewish population of Poland was wiped out but the niche is filled batty Polish women.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Good point. I'd argue the niche was filled by Jews in the USA in the last half of the 20th century, but has been filled by other groups at other times.

    Heck, Europe's got fewer Jews, and they're a lot woker than we are.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    modern artists in Poland... women who eat bananas topless...

     

    Natalia Rak can come to my town anytime:



    http://www.theforestmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/The-Forest-Magazine_Natalia-Rak_0080-1170x780.jpg

    http://www.blindeyefactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/%C2%A9blindeyefactory_Natalia-Rak_Terracina-9.jpg

    https://twistedsifter.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/street-art-by-natalia-rak-poland-15.jpg?w=800&h=342

    https://farm66.static.flickr.com/65535/46908808475_6b60342856_b.jpg
    , @Pericles
    By coincidence I just read an article where a haughty Polish artiste was sneering at a Polish museum for taking down her very important piece of aaaart (but is it art? is it, proles? is it???) after parents complained.

    As we have seen, best cured by a Cossack and a length of rope. (Cf. "cossack femen" on YouTube.)
  98. @Reg Cæsar

    Just because someone is ridiculous and risible does not mean he, she or it in all its they variations, is not dangerous.
     
    Or not of some good. Heather Mills may have been a batty wife, but her anti-landmine campaign is noble enough.

    True. We would do well to distinguish brtween the persona and the person.

    But when I see right-thinking people laughing at leftists ( few of whom are not ridiculous if only because the beliefs they hold are so delusional and outlandish), I’m reminded of the elites in the early 1930’s who laughed at Hitler. That mustache! That hair! That voice! They didn’t stop to think about the multitudes who took him seriously for all the wrong reasons. Ten years later, nobody was laughing.

  99. @SFG
    That was pretty funny.

    They're already on the fourth wave (more or less), the third wave was in the 90s and was more of a 'girl power' thing.

    I hate to link Vox, but they'd probably know their own movement well enough:

    https://www.vox.com/2018/3/20/16955588/feminism-waves-explained-first-second-third-fourth

    It did answer my question: Reagan. Unfortunately, I don't see a conservative revival coming; between Bernie and AOC, the young are definitely lefty.

    The young are economically left. AOC and Bernie would not be that popular if they were generic leftists. Their appeal is that they push for socialized medicine and more reasonable working hours and getting rid of student loans. The majority of young people aren’t into neoliberal corporate wokeness, though the most vocal proponents of it are the fanatical youngish tmblrinas. But honestly the SJWs would not have much of a platform were it not for baby boomers/gen X tastemakers mistaking tumblr voices for trendy millennial consensus and subsequently & cynically pushing those views on the public.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The young are economically left. AOC and Bernie['s...] appeal is that they push for socialized medicine...
     
    Except when they were offered a voluntary version thereof under Obamacare, they opted out. Because the young and healthy will subsidize the old and infirm under any system.
  100. anon[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    By Pam Grossman
    June 6, 2019

    You could say I was primed to be a witch from an early age. …
     

    These are the sort of people who, long about 2003 or 2004, referred to themselves as "The Science Based Community".

    At least she's good looking. If you're going to claim to be a "witch", then it helps to look more like Elizabeth Montgomery than like some old hag.

    She is good looking, and actually seems quite likeable. “Weird kid” doesn’t quite grow up. Some good and basic stuff under the flakiness. Although, personally, I would keep her at arm’s -length. And I would hope that she wasn’t still messing around with those date-rape magic spells.

    Being a witch in Africa, that a totally different thing than being one in the Western Patriarchy.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=witches+in+africa

  101. OT:

    My main man:

    Picking it up and laying it down.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Between him and Tucker, we may have the beginnings of a movement.

    Also, fun fact: Clockwork Orange was (in part) about the conflict between Augustine and Pelagius. Burgess was a Catholic, which everyone forgets.

    , @Thea
    Great article, thanks for sharing. It touches on themes from Oz Conservative about autonomy becoming the highest good and leading to a fractured civilization.
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    Thanks for recommending the Hawley article. It's unusually insightful for a politician.
    , @Clifford Brown
    Great read. Still I am not so sure that we are in the Age of Pelagius, but rather the Age of Aleister Crowley.

    Ozzy might have been right.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3LvhdFEOqs
    , @newrouter
    Thank you for this piece. The more things change. . .
    , @vinteuil
    Hawley continues to impress. When I voted for him, all I knew about him was that he wasn't Claire McCaskill - which was all I needed. Turns out he's smart, eloquent, and seems solid on the important issues, including immigration. And what an educational pedigree - Stanford & Yale Law! Not to mention young (39) and kind of geekily handsome. He should go far.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    The article starts with some good points about the dangers of hyper-individualism that can lead to the earthly reign of amoral/immoral power elites, but it falters as a societal prescription, as modern tolerant Christianity must, in the face of HBD.
  102. Who gave them the idea that there’s some special connection between females and witchcraft? Probably famous male practitioners of magic and keepers of esoteric knowledge outnumber females 100 to one.

    Okay, that figure is made up.

  103. @Dave Pinsen
    There’s a niche for transgression in first world societies, if it’s not actively suppressed. There was an FT article about modern artists in Poland yesterday - women who eat bananas topless and do other sorts of groundbreaking performance art. Pretty much the entire Jewish population of Poland was wiped out but the niche is filled batty Polish women.

    Good point. I’d argue the niche was filled by Jews in the USA in the last half of the 20th century, but has been filled by other groups at other times.

    Heck, Europe’s got fewer Jews, and they’re a lot woker than we are.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    If current trends continue, Desi women are going to displace Jews from this niche in America.
    , @S. Anonyia
    You are delusional if you think Europe is more “woke” than the U.S. It is more moderate in all respects- fewer social justice activists, but also fewer hardcore conservatives, mainly because religion is not as much a cultural force there. The only reason the U.S seems “conservative” at all is because we have a lot of vocal and batty evangelicals. More Europeans than Americans have unfavorable opinions of immigration. Feminism is not taken to as much of an extreme. There are fewer college courses relating to things like “whiteness studies” and “decolonization.” European schools don’t waste all their resources on losers and special education students- tracking still exists in most European countries. Europeans don’t entertain various leftist and minority groups” desire to tear historical down monuments...


    The only European countries remotely close to being “woke” like the U.S are Great Britain and Sweden. And with Sweden I suspect it’s caused by a naive desire to be like the “important” countries more than anything else...
  104. @Desiderius
    OT:

    My main man:

    https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1137511942812254208?s=20

    Picking it up and laying it down.

    Between him and Tucker, we may have the beginnings of a movement.

    Also, fun fact: Clockwork Orange was (in part) about the conflict between Augustine and Pelagius. Burgess was a Catholic, which everyone forgets.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Paul Johnson's "The Offshore Islanders" starts with a defense of Pelagius as the original representative of the English liberal tradition.

    The Clive Owen King Arthur movie from 15 years ago has some Pelagius in it.

    Apparently, works by Pelagius have only surfaced in the last century. But I haven't heard much about them. Perhaps he remains better known through his enemy St. Augustine, a great writer.

  105. @anonymous coward
    Yes, but not quite.

    People always believed in God. Polytheistic paganism came much, much later; and even then it was a kind of resentment of a God that they viewed as uncaring or cold-hearted. Still, belief in God never went away.

    So the original Christian missionaries weren't destroying the old pagan world, more like setting it finally upright and straight-headed.

    Dude, the real deal is this – no one (except me, apparently) wants to be responsible for their life. Easier to blame it on some fucking deity than just man up. End of story.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    No, the Deity, properly feared, keeps one’s eyes on the road and cuts down on all the excuse-making.
  106. @Mr. Anon

    By Pam Grossman
    June 6, 2019

    You could say I was primed to be a witch from an early age. …
     

    These are the sort of people who, long about 2003 or 2004, referred to themselves as "The Science Based Community".

    At least she's good looking. If you're going to claim to be a "witch", then it helps to look more like Elizabeth Montgomery than like some old hag.

    At least she’s good looking.

    Yep. She’s a solid four.

  107. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Yes, but are you a good witch or a bad witch?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyvRyxpvDi8

    As a boy seeing the good witch on tv,tho it was black and white, I got a funny feeling. Attractive woman,beautiful dress,long blonde hair–hell, I was turned on!
    Needless to say, Margaret Hamilton (?) had no such effect on me.

  108. Here’s the storyline that will be pushed from the start of the Women’s World Cup to the end:

    USWNT’s Ali Krieger and Ashlyn Harris are engaged, but right now the World Cup comes first

    https://sports.yahoo.com/ali-krieger-and-ashlyn-harris-are-us-world-cup-teammates-first-engaged-couple-second-193149153.html

    Pretty cringe body language in the posted instagram photo.

  109. The central fact behind all the flood of nonsense being espoused by the Mainstream:

    TOO MANY FACTS DENY THE RULING CLASS NARRATIVE. UNTIL FACTS CAN BE CENSORED INTO CONTROL, THEY SIMPLY NEED TO BE DEMONIZED.

    Or, to quote the great Dr. Johnson:

    “Truth is a cow that will give these gentlemen no more milk; so they are gone to milk the bull.”

    NB The play on words using the final word was not intended by Johnson. Works anyway!

  110. @Steve Sailer
    Witch of Endor -- big influence on Star Wars.

    Yeah. I’m guessing that he’s confusing Saul’s trip to a fortune teller with the earlier passage where both Miriam and Aaron give snark to Moses for marrying not only a foreigner, but an Ethiopian. (Numbers 12).

  111. @SFG
    Good point. I'd argue the niche was filled by Jews in the USA in the last half of the 20th century, but has been filled by other groups at other times.

    Heck, Europe's got fewer Jews, and they're a lot woker than we are.

    If current trends continue, Desi women are going to displace Jews from this niche in America.

    • Replies: @SFG
    So: why such a philosemite? Usually you have Jack D and Lot to carry the torch around here.
  112. @ThreeCranes
    "behavior that is still often met by society with judgment"

    Above all, society should never judge a human being. No matter what they do, no negative feedback.

    "I’m a witch when I’m giving thanks to the sun, moon and stars.."

    which are inanimate objects so it's unlikely your gratitude elicits a response.

    "I’m working to subvert the corrosive narrative of sexism, racism, queer-phobia and xenophobia."

    A narrative that exists largely in your own mind.

    So, basically, you talk to yourself a lot.

    Yes, “society,” the eternal whipping boy. Worse yet, I’ll bet she thinks she’s being original.

  113. @Buzz Mohawk
    The election of Ronald Reagan at the beginning of the 1980s marks the end of the "revolutionary" 1960s acting out of the Baby Boomers. Suddenly career and material success was cool. This was the beginning of "Yuppies."

    Things like feminism, witchcraft, astrology and New Age BS settled into niches and bloomed in enclaves like Boulder, Colorado but faded into irrelevancy everywhere else until now.

    Former hippies went to training and became stock brokers. I'm not kidding: One I knew, a Jew from Brooklyn, had landed in Boulder when his VW hippy van broke down there after taking him all the way from New York. By the middle of the Eighties, he had bought a very nice house at the foot of the Flatirons with the little fortune he had made churning, um, I mean trading, stocks for clients.

    One annoying thing about our older brothers and sisters of the Sixties is how hyper-conventional and materialistic they became when they grew up. After the energy crisis of the Seventies ended, they were the first ones to buy the giant, fuel-guzzling trucks we now call SUVs. They were the original buyers and inhabitants of McMansions. They were the first limousine liberals. They prepared the world for the absurdity we have now. (I should know; I am one of their little brothers and went right along with them.)

    So does going “right along with them” mean that you too flipped quickly from idealist to materialist?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    No. Nor have I ever bought an SUV or McMansion. (I have spent too much money on fast cars, though. It's the white trash in me from my mother's side.)

    I went from believing my communist political science professor to finally understanding what my father's career at a Dow Jones industrial really meant. It didn't happen quickly, either. I lagged way behind the yuppies, but I finally ended up wearing a suit every day to an office.

    I became a pragmatist. I've never been a materialist.

  114. @Daniel H
    OT: Up in olde New York, schools chancellor Carranza bypasses hiring procedures, hires a flunky and a couple of very pretty, young Chicana hotties from the old barrio. Was ratted out by nice, frumpy, middle class, good-white ladies, the individuals who do most of the productive and good work in the Leviathan that is New York public schools. The empire strikes back. Fireworks.

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/carranza-friends.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1033

    He may have been “ratted out” but nothing will come of it. As blacks and hispanics in NY see it it’s their turn at the trough. And who’s going to stop them? There is no justice in NY, only social-justice.

  115. @Mr. Anon

    By Pam Grossman
    June 6, 2019

    You could say I was primed to be a witch from an early age. …
     

    These are the sort of people who, long about 2003 or 2004, referred to themselves as "The Science Based Community".

    At least she's good looking. If you're going to claim to be a "witch", then it helps to look more like Elizabeth Montgomery than like some old hag.

    At least she’s good looking. If you’re going to claim to be a “witch”, then it helps to look more like Elizabeth Montgomery than like some old hag.

    I guess this is the woman. I’ll go out on a limb and risk being hexed, and say that she’s a 6 or 6.5 at best.

  116. Women are retards. They need to be brought to heel.

  117. OT
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7119447/Naked-Bike-Ride-sees-thousands-baring-streets-London.html
    Thousands of cheeky cyclists bare all as they take part in the annual Naked Bike Ride through London

    • Replies: @Pericles

    Thousands of cheeky cyclists bare all as they take part in the annual Naked Bike Ride through London

     

    We do have a loicence for that. Look, the officer is the one in the rainbow clown wig over there. The one with the pierced penis, yes. Never mind what he's doing and you can't post that picture on Twitter or he'll arrest you.

    Oi there, men of indeterminate skin tone, lay off our naked bike riding women, I say.
  118. @Dave Pinsen
    If current trends continue, Desi women are going to displace Jews from this niche in America.

    So: why such a philosemite? Usually you have Jack D and Lot to carry the torch around here.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    It is amusing that supposing that Jewish women may one day decline to merely the second most unbearable demographic in America qualifies as “philosemitism” around here.
  119. Off-topic but maybe of interest to Steve and his readers. Black women repaying much less of their loans than white men is spun as a reason to further subsidize black women.

    https://www.barrons.com/articles/student-loans-race-gap-51559942563
    Why the Gap Between White Men and Black Women Paying Off Student Loans Is So Huge, According to a Study
    By Jillian Berman, MarketWatch
    June 9, 2019 8:30 a.m. ET

    The experience of repaying student loans is unpleasant for millions of graduates, but for some borrowers, paying off student debt is an almost insurmountable challenge.

    Twelve years after entering college, white men have paid off 44% of their student-loan balance on average, according to an analysis released Thursday by Demos, a left-leaning think tank. For white women, that share drops to 28%. For black borrowers, the picture is even bleaker. Black women see their loan balances actually grow 13% on average, 12 years after leaving school, while black men see their balances grow 11%.

    The age at which students enter college also plays a role in their ability to pay off debt. Students who start college at age 20 or older have paid off just 5% of their debt on average, at minimum, 12 years after leaving school. Students who enter school at age 18 or 19 have typically paid off more than one-quarter of their debt 12 years after leaving college, the report found.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    MarketWatch is a sign of BS.
  120. @Daniel H
    OT: Up in olde New York, schools chancellor Carranza bypasses hiring procedures, hires a flunky and a couple of very pretty, young Chicana hotties from the old barrio. Was ratted out by nice, frumpy, middle class, good-white ladies, the individuals who do most of the productive and good work in the Leviathan that is New York public schools. The empire strikes back. Fireworks.

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/carranza-friends.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1033

    His best decision thus far.

  121. Anonymous[378] • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    "...an LA-based Satanic doo-wop band". It IS The Devil's Music!
  122. @SFG
    Good point. I'd argue the niche was filled by Jews in the USA in the last half of the 20th century, but has been filled by other groups at other times.

    Heck, Europe's got fewer Jews, and they're a lot woker than we are.

    You are delusional if you think Europe is more “woke” than the U.S. It is more moderate in all respects- fewer social justice activists, but also fewer hardcore conservatives, mainly because religion is not as much a cultural force there. The only reason the U.S seems “conservative” at all is because we have a lot of vocal and batty evangelicals. More Europeans than Americans have unfavorable opinions of immigration. Feminism is not taken to as much of an extreme. There are fewer college courses relating to things like “whiteness studies” and “decolonization.” European schools don’t waste all their resources on losers and special education students- tracking still exists in most European countries. Europeans don’t entertain various leftist and minority groups” desire to tear historical down monuments…

    The only European countries remotely close to being “woke” like the U.S are Great Britain and Sweden. And with Sweden I suspect it’s caused by a naive desire to be like the “important” countries more than anything else…

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    European schools don’t waste all their resources on losers and special education students- tracking still exists in most European countries. Europeans don’t entertain various leftist and minority groups” desire to tear historical down monuments…
     
    This is true, but these are sort of lagging indicators - products of Europe’s previous homogeneity. Europe is certainly more feminist than America - more female heads of government, defense ministers, top regulators, etc.
  123. The NYT scrambles daily to prove ol’Sailer right.

    Its like Steve rolled a bowling ball with his Takimag article, and the NYT unleashed Grossman to assemble the bowling pins quickly to the side of the lane that ball was heading to, assuring a strike.

  124. @Desiderius
    OT:

    My main man:

    https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1137511942812254208?s=20

    Picking it up and laying it down.

    Great article, thanks for sharing. It touches on themes from Oz Conservative about autonomy becoming the highest good and leading to a fractured civilization.

  125. The complex relation between paganism, Modern Science, and Modern Feminism?

    A mere human lifetime hardly suffices to plumb the depth of that ocean!
    Try, e.g.,
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kabbalistic-feminism-and-the-war-on-women_b_1433307

  126. @Reg Cæsar


    Sure. Let women vote. Why not? What could possibly go wrong with that?
     
    Warren G. Harding.
     
    Our most underrated president. Courtesy of Ron:


    A Few Kind Words for Warren G. Harding

    It's hard to think of a better defense of women's suffrage than Harding and Coolidge.

    I think O doesn’t believe his ancestors would’ve been sterilized if we’d kept down the Wilson road. Oh, wait a second….

  127. @Daniel H
    OT: Up in olde New York, schools chancellor Carranza bypasses hiring procedures, hires a flunky and a couple of very pretty, young Chicana hotties from the old barrio. Was ratted out by nice, frumpy, middle class, good-white ladies, the individuals who do most of the productive and good work in the Leviathan that is New York public schools. The empire strikes back. Fireworks.

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/carranza-friends.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1033

    The problem is that Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are the top dogs in the New York Latino hierarchy so this guy will have no allies. Asians obviously don’t support him. He is literally a man without a country.

    • Replies: @Evocatus
    Very true. Mexicans in New York get so much shit from the Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. They are also almost always from Puebla and are very Amerindian looking (very short and dark), unlike this Carranza dude and his two sidekicks.
  128. @Bill P
    I've long thought paganism was silly, because nobody really believes the sun is driving a chariot across the sky, but it does hold some attraction for a lot of people as a belief system that stands against some set of norms they dislike for whatever reason.

    This is why you have both racial separatists and feminists identifying as "pagan" in the West. The former are against the utopian treacle that passes for public Christianity (e.g. MLKism), while the latter are in open revolt against their biology, which they suspect is God's fault.

    Both are fooling themselves (as well as making fools of themselves), because long before Jesus came along, the wisest of the pagans had already come to the conclusion that it was all a sham, and there really is only one God. So the truth is that paganism was already pretty well discredited by the time Christianity made it's debut, and it was not that difficult for men like St. Augustine to knock what remained of it down in the late Roman Empire.

    When it comes down to it these people are just LARPing their fantasy characters.

    Still, LARPing as a Viking warrior is much better than cutting off your cock and LARPing as a woman.

  129. @Autochthon
    Before the phrase became trite, a talented person – probably the only one knowledgable of its origin – did use it.

    https://youtu.be/aJV1AweAEdU

    Grossman?

    Shouldn't she demand to be addressed as "Grosswomyn?"

    Kate Bush is a witch, but I insist that she is the good kind.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Thank you; I'd never heard this cover.

    Not even it tops Shatner's rendition, though.
  130. how many shekels a year does mossad pay you steve?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Looks like we’re all autistic now.
  131. @Desiderius
    OT:

    My main man:

    https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1137511942812254208?s=20

    Picking it up and laying it down.

    Thanks for recommending the Hawley article. It’s unusually insightful for a politician.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    He’s aiming for statesman. We could use a few. Maybe he’ll get Sasse off his considerable ass.
    , @Desiderius
    And when was the last time an important article appeared in Christianity Today?

    Thirty years ago? Sixty?
  132. @Desiderius
    OT:

    My main man:

    https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1137511942812254208?s=20

    Picking it up and laying it down.

    Great read. Still I am not so sure that we are in the Age of Pelagius, but rather the Age of Aleister Crowley.

    Ozzy might have been right.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    He often has been.

    Those two Ages are pretty much mutually inclusive.

    https://youtu.be/XiM6waSsGTY
  133. @Clifford Brown
    Kate Bush is a witch, but I insist that she is the good kind.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5agt0cpxsKU

    Thank you; I’d never heard this cover.

    Not even it tops Shatner’s rendition, though.

  134. @Dave Pinsen
    There’s a niche for transgression in first world societies, if it’s not actively suppressed. There was an FT article about modern artists in Poland yesterday - women who eat bananas topless and do other sorts of groundbreaking performance art. Pretty much the entire Jewish population of Poland was wiped out but the niche is filled batty Polish women.

    modern artists in Poland… women who eat bananas topless…

    Natalia Rak can come to my town anytime:

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Yikes. Are those pizza shops?
  135. @SFG
    So: why such a philosemite? Usually you have Jack D and Lot to carry the torch around here.

    It is amusing that supposing that Jewish women may one day decline to merely the second most unbearable demographic in America qualifies as “philosemitism” around here.

    • LOL: James N. Kennett
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Loved unrequited does eventually run aground.
    , @Pericles

    It is amusing that supposing that Jewish women may one day decline to merely the second most unbearable demographic in America qualifies as “philosemitism” around here.

     

    We will always remember them as the pioneers they were though.
  136. @Clifford Brown
    Great read. Still I am not so sure that we are in the Age of Pelagius, but rather the Age of Aleister Crowley.

    Ozzy might have been right.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3LvhdFEOqs

    He often has been.

    Those two Ages are pretty much mutually inclusive.

  137. @dr kill
    Dude, the real deal is this - no one (except me, apparently) wants to be responsible for their life. Easier to blame it on some fucking deity than just man up. End of story.

    No, the Deity, properly feared, keeps one’s eyes on the road and cuts down on all the excuse-making.

  138. @L Woods
    It is amusing that supposing that Jewish women may one day decline to merely the second most unbearable demographic in America qualifies as “philosemitism” around here.

    Loved unrequited does eventually run aground.

  139. Anonymous[378] • Disclaimer says:
    @TelfoedJohn
    Her night job might be casting spells, but her day job is actually quite similar - projecting fantasy onto the world to try to change it:

    By curating stock photos of women in settings from construction sites to the boardroom, Pam Grossman has helped Getty Images change the perception of women … by cultivating stock photos of women of many races and ages in the workplace, the sciences, and the military,
     
    https://jwa.org/people/grossman-pam

    So all those pics she took of successful black women CEOs were a kind of voodoo spell of cargo cult capitalism. In Papua New Guinea, the locals build simple wooden models of planes to try to replicate the white mans magic. Pam Grossman does the same with her camera.

    https://www.jwtintelligence.com/2016/01/pam-grossman-director-visual-trends-getty-images/

    … Search is one of the many tools that Pam Grossman, director, visual trends at Getty Images, uses to predict where our collective aesthetic is heading. What she discovers often bridges the gap between aesthetics and sociology …

    Let’s talk about the trends you’ve identified for 2016. Do you see the gender thread moving through any of the other trends this year?

    I think this goes into Outsider In, and Messthetics, and maybe Divine Living, but in subtler ways. Outsider In, I think, is the crux of this: people who were once considered fringe or marginal, whatever that means, are being more readily celebrated. Which is really exciting if you think about it, this idea that now everybody seems to want to be rebelling against the status quo.

    For example, the Pirelli calendar this year is a really good example for me of Outsider In, because it’s Pirelli kind of rebelling against its own brand, rebelling against their own tradition of showing stereotypically seductive, perfect-looking women, and instead celebrating these iconoclasts, and creators, and women of all ages, shapes, body types, and ethnicities. To me, that’s a really good example of Outsider In.

  140. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Thanks for recommending the Hawley article. It's unusually insightful for a politician.

    He’s aiming for statesman. We could use a few. Maybe he’ll get Sasse off his considerable ass.

  141. @the last non-autistic commenter
    how many shekels a year does mossad pay you steve?

    Looks like we’re all autistic now.

  142. @mmack
    I think Bugs Bunny had the correct frame of mind on that issue:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h635NhpPszI

    Thanks for that lol

  143. @Jack Hanson
    This might have some merit, but like many here on iSteve dawt com treating this shit like whimsy is idiocy when they have the cultural high ground and they decide who is doing what to whom.

    You can ignore the NYT flavor of the month all you want until you get torpedoed for not bowing to Globohomo sufficiently. Let me know how your gentle teasing works out then.

    They got the high ground because conservatives put them on a pedestal and worshipped them. Kavanaugh’s binders full of women are pathetic.

    Conservatives are terrified of mocking or teasing anyone, lest they get excommunicated from Niceanity.

  144. @TelfoedJohn
    Her night job might be casting spells, but her day job is actually quite similar - projecting fantasy onto the world to try to change it:

    By curating stock photos of women in settings from construction sites to the boardroom, Pam Grossman has helped Getty Images change the perception of women … by cultivating stock photos of women of many races and ages in the workplace, the sciences, and the military,
     
    https://jwa.org/people/grossman-pam

    So all those pics she took of successful black women CEOs were a kind of voodoo spell of cargo cult capitalism. In Papua New Guinea, the locals build simple wooden models of planes to try to replicate the white mans magic. Pam Grossman does the same with her camera.

    Former biz editor here, and boy do I love stock photos! Pix of women in hardhats directing male construction workers … pix of women in goggles peering intently at test-tubes filled with colored liquids … pix of shoulder-padded babes pointing at charts in boardroom meetings as silver-haired males look on admiringly…

  145. @Desiderius
    OT:

    My main man:

    https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1137511942812254208?s=20

    Picking it up and laying it down.

    Thank you for this piece. The more things change. . .

  146. @ricpic
    So does going "right along with them" mean that you too flipped quickly from idealist to materialist?

    No. Nor have I ever bought an SUV or McMansion. (I have spent too much money on fast cars, though. It’s the white trash in me from my mother’s side.)

    I went from believing my communist political science professor to finally understanding what my father’s career at a Dow Jones industrial really meant. It didn’t happen quickly, either. I lagged way behind the yuppies, but I finally ended up wearing a suit every day to an office.

    I became a pragmatist. I’ve never been a materialist.

  147. @L Woods
    Yeah, that’s exactly what conservatives have done for the past century. That’s sure worked out great.

    Please, they’ve been keeping their binders full of women to show that Ds are the real sexists. If they pandered any more to feminists they’d be licking their feet.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    The left-leaning wing yes, but the Rush Limbaughs of the world have been snarking at feminism for 30 years. It hasn’t worked.
  148. @Jack Hanson
    Amazingly some of you have gotten even worst at reading the current cultural trends. This isn't some 70s counterculture people will "grow out of it" (which they didn't), its hear to stay until we hit an event that puts the brakes on unchecked hedonism.

    Drag kids being pushed at 1000% and some of you are still doing your "heh, look at the crazies".

    This isn’t some 70s counterculture people will “grow out of it” (which they didn’t), its hear to stay until we hit an event that puts the brakes on unchecked hedonism.

    Drag kids being pushed at 1000% and some of you are still doing your “heh, look at the crazies”.

    Yes, you’re right.

    The 60s/70s counterculture did not disappear. It infiltrated the mainstream. The craziness, the degeneracy, the toxic feminism, the homosexual agenda – all the seriously bad ideas of the counterculture became part of the mainstream.

    What passes for respectable conservative mainstream culture today would have shocked and sickened ordinary people in the 1950s.

    And the infiltration of diseased and depraved ideas into the mainstream has never stopped and it is continuing at full speed today.

    And as for the conservative backlash, it never happened and it doesn’t look like happening. The 80s did not represent a conservative backlash – it was simply crass materialism, hedonism and consumerism turned into a cult.

    • Agree: BB753
  149. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Thanks for recommending the Hawley article. It's unusually insightful for a politician.

    And when was the last time an important article appeared in Christianity Today?

    Thirty years ago? Sixty?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    And when was the last time an important article appeared in Christianity Today?

    Thirty years ago? Sixty?
     
    When they were Christian.
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    Exactly --- you and Reg have nailed it.
  150. @Clifford Brown
    The problem is that Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are the top dogs in the New York Latino hierarchy so this guy will have no allies. Asians obviously don't support him. He is literally a man without a country.

    Very true. Mexicans in New York get so much shit from the Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. They are also almost always from Puebla and are very Amerindian looking (very short and dark), unlike this Carranza dude and his two sidekicks.

  151. @Almost Missouri
    From the trailer:

    "confronting injustice is an expression of one's Satanic faith."
     
    Sheesh, even I could be a better Satanist than these low grade larpers.

    Creating injustice is an expression of one's Satanic unfaith.
     
    FIFY

    It doesn't say much for modern Satanism that their Satanism is really just wanker-tier Christianity.

    It doesn’t say much for modern Satanism that their Satanism is really just wanker-tier Christianity.

    I view the Satanic Temple as basically Unitarianism for antifa and black metal types. It appears to largely exist to engage in atheistic political posturing. For the record, I have never met a bad Unitarian, I just think they might not be a religion.

    Why call yourself the Satanic Temple if you don’t believe in Satan? Why the insistence with the Baphomet statues on state capital property if it is all a big larp by atheists? What religion builds statues to a deity that it does not believe in? None of this makes any sense. If the purpose is to simply shock Christians, it hardly seems like a religious organization, but more of a political one.

    It’s either a Trojan Horse for something else (an esoteric/ exoteric type operation) or a really lame prank.

  152. @NYMOM
    Exactly the daggers are out.

    The next thing we will hear is that he is resigning and then they will suddenly find a left-wing Asian candidate to replace him. Of course this person will be entirely supportive of the Mayor's initiative to kick most Asians out of the specialized high schools claiming 'fairness' or racial balance or something...

    This is very predictable.

    Funny enough, the woman he replaced was a Spaniard (parents from Galicia):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmen_Fariña

    Fariña was born in Brooklyn, New York, to Galician parents who fled Spain during the Spanish Civil War, Fariña was the only Spanish-speaker in her kindergarten class and learned English in school. The language barrier was so severe, that Fariña’s “teacher marked her absent every day for six weeks because Carmen then surnamed Guillén, did not answer when the teacher, who was of Irish background, called Quillan during roll call.”

  153. @S. Anonyia
    The young are economically left. AOC and Bernie would not be that popular if they were generic leftists. Their appeal is that they push for socialized medicine and more reasonable working hours and getting rid of student loans. The majority of young people aren't into neoliberal corporate wokeness, though the most vocal proponents of it are the fanatical youngish tmblrinas. But honestly the SJWs would not have much of a platform were it not for baby boomers/gen X tastemakers mistaking tumblr voices for trendy millennial consensus and subsequently & cynically pushing those views on the public.

    The young are economically left. AOC and Bernie[‘s…] appeal is that they push for socialized medicine…

    Except when they were offered a voluntary version thereof under Obamacare, they opted out. Because the young and healthy will subsidize the old and infirm under any system.

  154. @Desiderius
    And when was the last time an important article appeared in Christianity Today?

    Thirty years ago? Sixty?

    And when was the last time an important article appeared in Christianity Today?

    Thirty years ago? Sixty?

    When they were Christian.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    That about sums it up.

    Well done, Reg.
  155. @Desiderius
    And when was the last time an important article appeared in Christianity Today?

    Thirty years ago? Sixty?

    Exactly — you and Reg have nailed it.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    That’s the thing though, all they have to do is confess their sins and repent and most of this goes away. Therein lies my hope.
  156. @S. Anonyia
    You are delusional if you think Europe is more “woke” than the U.S. It is more moderate in all respects- fewer social justice activists, but also fewer hardcore conservatives, mainly because religion is not as much a cultural force there. The only reason the U.S seems “conservative” at all is because we have a lot of vocal and batty evangelicals. More Europeans than Americans have unfavorable opinions of immigration. Feminism is not taken to as much of an extreme. There are fewer college courses relating to things like “whiteness studies” and “decolonization.” European schools don’t waste all their resources on losers and special education students- tracking still exists in most European countries. Europeans don’t entertain various leftist and minority groups” desire to tear historical down monuments...


    The only European countries remotely close to being “woke” like the U.S are Great Britain and Sweden. And with Sweden I suspect it’s caused by a naive desire to be like the “important” countries more than anything else...

    European schools don’t waste all their resources on losers and special education students- tracking still exists in most European countries. Europeans don’t entertain various leftist and minority groups” desire to tear historical down monuments…

    This is true, but these are sort of lagging indicators – products of Europe’s previous homogeneity. Europe is certainly more feminist than America – more female heads of government, defense ministers, top regulators, etc.

    • Replies: @g2k
    Sorry, America is ground zero for this current wave of nonsense. As someone working in tech, on the borderline between gen x and the millenials, i can tell you that wothout exception, the 'Titania McGrath' types are from the English speaking world and in their twenties. Foreigners with non-English-speaking accents NEVER engage in this crap. Europe may well have more females in elite positions, but they simply get on with life rather than banging on about the patriarchy or whatever 24/7.
  157. @Buzz Mohawk
    The election of Ronald Reagan at the beginning of the 1980s marks the end of the "revolutionary" 1960s acting out of the Baby Boomers. Suddenly career and material success was cool. This was the beginning of "Yuppies."

    Things like feminism, witchcraft, astrology and New Age BS settled into niches and bloomed in enclaves like Boulder, Colorado but faded into irrelevancy everywhere else until now.

    Former hippies went to training and became stock brokers. I'm not kidding: One I knew, a Jew from Brooklyn, had landed in Boulder when his VW hippy van broke down there after taking him all the way from New York. By the middle of the Eighties, he had bought a very nice house at the foot of the Flatirons with the little fortune he had made churning, um, I mean trading, stocks for clients.

    One annoying thing about our older brothers and sisters of the Sixties is how hyper-conventional and materialistic they became when they grew up. After the energy crisis of the Seventies ended, they were the first ones to buy the giant, fuel-guzzling trucks we now call SUVs. They were the original buyers and inhabitants of McMansions. They were the first limousine liberals. They prepared the world for the absurdity we have now. (I should know; I am one of their little brothers and went right along with them.)

    Former hippies went to training and became stock brokers. I’m not kidding: One I knew, a Jew from Brooklyn,

    Wow, shocker. After destroying culture need to build up material assets, gogue plz help.

  158. @Dave Pinsen
    There’s a niche for transgression in first world societies, if it’s not actively suppressed. There was an FT article about modern artists in Poland yesterday - women who eat bananas topless and do other sorts of groundbreaking performance art. Pretty much the entire Jewish population of Poland was wiped out but the niche is filled batty Polish women.

    By coincidence I just read an article where a haughty Polish artiste was sneering at a Polish museum for taking down her very important piece of aaaart (but is it art? is it, proles? is it???) after parents complained.

    As we have seen, best cured by a Cossack and a length of rope. (Cf. “cossack femen” on YouTube.)

  159. Lot says:
    @Flip
    William III by taking over Britain from the Netherlands must have had a lot on the ball.

    I agree, I think the dynastic founders were likely smart: William the Conquerer, Henry VII, and William of Orange (who would have founded a dynasty if he had any children).

    The actual takeover was more a matter of luck and bad decisions by James II. But his rise to power in the Netherlands was impressive.

  160. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Yes, but are you a good witch or a bad witch?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyvRyxpvDi8

    Like so many Wiccans and New Agers, she’s a Jewish witch.

    Example:

    Starhawk was born in 1951 in Saint Paul, Minnesota. Her father Jack Simos, died when she was five. Her mother, Bertha Claire Goldfarb Simos, was a professor of social work at UCLA. Both her parents were the children of Jewish immigrants from Russia.

    And remember, Robert Graves wrote The White Goddess, one of the founding texts of feminist paganism, because of how Laura Riding (real name Laura Reichenthal) treated him.

    She was canoodling with Graves while still married to Louis Gottschalk, an instructor at Cornell, from which she dropped out. They divorced in 1925, and immediately she was living with Graves, his wife Nancy Nicholson, and their four children.

    Riding’s suicide threats (and eventual self-defenestration) destroyed Graves’s marriage, and he deserted his family. She went on to take up similarly with Schuyler Jackson and his wife, with similar results. I think it was Allen Tate’s wife who called her “strenuous,” while William Carlos Williams called her “a prize b!tch.” But we’re supposed to remember her as a genius poet and The White Goddess as a work of poetic inspiration on Graves’s part rather than, say, self-therapy.

    That whole witchy-witchy thang of the 20th century, welded at the hip to feminism, is a very Jewish phenomenon. Many white women and men were attracted to it, if I read the Zeitgeist correctly over the years, because it promised reconnection with European roots in contradistinction to the increasingly Jewish mass culture saturating every surface and moment. But those European roots were washed through the likes of Starhawk and the ghost of Riding in Graves’s work.

    Again, Pam Grossman, who for some reason is making the media rounds:

    The witch is a notorious shape-shifter, and she comes in many guises….

    I find that the more I work with the witch, the more complex she becomes. Hers is a slippery spirit: try to pin her down, and she’ll only recede further into the deep, dark wood.

    That’s from this piece in Time “magazine,” which reads like a triple-parens leftist/Dem manifesto:

    time.com/5597693/real-women-witches/

    These days it seems that “paganism” is a refugium for whites who can’t admit they’re white. Example from 65% nonwhite Philadelphia:

    https://wiccadelphia.com/

    The Dems will do anything to mobilize these voters for 2020.

  161. @Clyde
    OT
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7119447/Naked-Bike-Ride-sees-thousands-baring-streets-London.html
    Thousands of cheeky cyclists bare all as they take part in the annual Naked Bike Ride through London

    Thousands of cheeky cyclists bare all as they take part in the annual Naked Bike Ride through London

    We do have a loicence for that. Look, the officer is the one in the rainbow clown wig over there. The one with the pierced penis, yes. Never mind what he’s doing and you can’t post that picture on Twitter or he’ll arrest you.

    Oi there, men of indeterminate skin tone, lay off our naked bike riding women, I say.

  162. @L Woods
    It is amusing that supposing that Jewish women may one day decline to merely the second most unbearable demographic in America qualifies as “philosemitism” around here.

    It is amusing that supposing that Jewish women may one day decline to merely the second most unbearable demographic in America qualifies as “philosemitism” around here.

    We will always remember them as the pioneers they were though.

  163. @SFG
    Between him and Tucker, we may have the beginnings of a movement.

    Also, fun fact: Clockwork Orange was (in part) about the conflict between Augustine and Pelagius. Burgess was a Catholic, which everyone forgets.

    Paul Johnson’s “The Offshore Islanders” starts with a defense of Pelagius as the original representative of the English liberal tradition.

    The Clive Owen King Arthur movie from 15 years ago has some Pelagius in it.

    Apparently, works by Pelagius have only surfaced in the last century. But I haven’t heard much about them. Perhaps he remains better known through his enemy St. Augustine, a great writer.

  164. @Beliavsky
    Off-topic but maybe of interest to Steve and his readers. Black women repaying much less of their loans than white men is spun as a reason to further subsidize black women.

    https://www.barrons.com/articles/student-loans-race-gap-51559942563
    Why the Gap Between White Men and Black Women Paying Off Student Loans Is So Huge, According to a Study
    By Jillian Berman, MarketWatch
    June 9, 2019 8:30 a.m. ET

    The experience of repaying student loans is unpleasant for millions of graduates, but for some borrowers, paying off student debt is an almost insurmountable challenge.

    Twelve years after entering college, white men have paid off 44% of their student-loan balance on average, according to an analysis released Thursday by Demos, a left-leaning think tank. For white women, that share drops to 28%. For black borrowers, the picture is even bleaker. Black women see their loan balances actually grow 13% on average, 12 years after leaving school, while black men see their balances grow 11%.

    The age at which students enter college also plays a role in their ability to pay off debt. Students who start college at age 20 or older have paid off just 5% of their debt on average, at minimum, 12 years after leaving school. Students who enter school at age 18 or 19 have typically paid off more than one-quarter of their debt 12 years after leaving college, the report found.

    ...

    MarketWatch is a sign of BS.

  165. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1137746128491802624

    “…an LA-based Satanic doo-wop band”. It IS The Devil’s Music!

  166. @Desiderius
    OT:

    My main man:

    https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1137511942812254208?s=20

    Picking it up and laying it down.

    Hawley continues to impress. When I voted for him, all I knew about him was that he wasn’t Claire McCaskill – which was all I needed. Turns out he’s smart, eloquent, and seems solid on the important issues, including immigration. And what an educational pedigree – Stanford & Yale Law! Not to mention young (39) and kind of geekily handsome. He should go far.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri

    "He should go far."
     
    If he starts to, those same qualities are the reasons that GloboHomo will spare no effort to stop him. One hopes his educaion extends to Matthew 10:16.
  167. @Desiderius
    Please, they’ve been keeping their binders full of women to show that Ds are the real sexists. If they pandered any more to feminists they’d be licking their feet.

    The left-leaning wing yes, but the Rush Limbaughs of the world have been snarking at feminism for 30 years. It hasn’t worked.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    What state does Rush represent?
  168. @BB753
    Of course, it would be bad PR for them to present themselves as hard-core Satanists. Some of their followers are larpers, some are into the real stuff. But never doubt that the inner circles of those covens do practice black masses with satanic invocations and worship, animal and human sacrifices, drinking blood, orgies, etc.
    And it's far from a new practice, it's been going on for centuries. Except today many of the top government officials, politicians, tycoons, journalists, entertainers, etc, are practicing Satanists.

    https://dailystormer.name/dr-pizza-ars-technica-journalist-peter-bright-arrested-for-plotting-to-do-anal-on-7-and-9-year-old-girls/
    [Note that if you are at work, you probably do not want this site in your browsing history.]

    tl;dr: Journalist arrested for conspiracy to rape children. This by itself is not so unusual, nor is the deafening silence of his fellow journalists in not covering the story, but also … his twitter timeline is full of smirking references to … pizza. But Pizzagate is just a conspiracy theory.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @BB753
    Not all pedophiles are Satanists but all Satanists engage in pedophilia as part of their rituals.
  169. @Steve Sailer
    Witch of Endor -- big influence on Star Wars.

    Witch of Endor – One of Hornblower’s vessels I think.

  170. @Bitfu
    I don't know what killed second-wave feminism, but the Malleus Maleficarum aka Hammer of Witches is a fascinating backstory.

    It was written by a priest--Heinrich Kramer-- in the late 1400s, and it was the 2nd best selling book behind only the Bible for over 200 years.

    From Wikipedia


    The Malleus elevates sorcery to the criminal status of heresy and prescribes inquisitorial practices for secular courts in order to extirpate witches. The recommended procedures include torture to effectively obtain confessions and the death penalty as the only sure remedy against the evils of witchcraft. At that time, it was typical to burn heretics alive at the stake and the Malleus encouraged the same treatment of witches. The book had a strong influence on culture for several centuries.
     
    The ironies here are that the Malleus relationship with Gutenberg's press is a damn fine distant mirror of SJW's on the Internet. Additionally, the Malleus now reads like a guidebook for SJWs. Simply replace witches in the book with non-woke, and voila! You'll get your SJW recipe for dealing with Thought Criminals going forward. The parallels are eerie.

    The Malleus Maleficarum is divided into three sections. The first section is aimed at clergy and tries to refute critics who deny the reality of witchcraft, thereby hindering its prosecution. The second lays the foundation for the next section by describing the actual forms of witchcraft and its remedies. The third section is to assist judges confronting and combating witchcraft, and to aid the inquisitors by removing the burden from them. However, each of these three sections has the prevailing themes of what is witchcraft and who is a witch.

    Kramer wrote the Malleus following his expulsion from Innsbruck by the local bishop, due to charges of illegal behavior against Kramer himself, and because of Kramer's obsession with the sexual habits of one of the accused, Helena Scheuberin, which led the other tribunal members to suspend the trial.

    It was later used by royal courts during the Renaissance, and contributed to the increasingly brutal prosecution of witchcraft during the 16th and 17th centuries.
     

    Additionally, the Malleus now reads like a guidebook for SJWs. Simply replace witches in the book with non-woke, and voila! You’ll get your SJW recipe for dealing with Thought Criminals going forward. The parallels are eerie.

    You have this absolutely ass-backwards. The witches and heretics of the 15th and 16th centuries were the SJWs of their time. Their beliefs and their program were the same then and now. They were and remain the only real “thought criminals,” still ensconced in their heresy. It does not matter that what was once a fringe movement has now become the dominant ideology. Heresy does not graduate to orthodoxy by being ascendant; theological correctness is not decided by majority vote. The Church was correct in dealing with these deviants harshly, even though the actual persecutions were far fewer and milder than is currently supposed.

    The proper attitude for anyone who claims to be on the side of right is to pick up the Hammer and use it yourself against the old enemy, not to whine about free speech. Fools like you are doing the witches’ work and you don’t even realize it. This is the very reason why conservatives are bankrupt of ideas and bereft of success.

  171. @vinteuil
    Hawley continues to impress. When I voted for him, all I knew about him was that he wasn't Claire McCaskill - which was all I needed. Turns out he's smart, eloquent, and seems solid on the important issues, including immigration. And what an educational pedigree - Stanford & Yale Law! Not to mention young (39) and kind of geekily handsome. He should go far.

    “He should go far.”

    If he starts to, those same qualities are the reasons that GloboHomo will spare no effort to stop him. One hopes his educaion extends to Matthew 10:16.

  172. Agreed that he will have to be as wise as serpents. Not sure about the harmless as doves.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    You’d better be when the Eye of Soros is on you.
  173. @Desiderius
    OT:

    My main man:

    https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1137511942812254208?s=20

    Picking it up and laying it down.

    The article starts with some good points about the dangers of hyper-individualism that can lead to the earthly reign of amoral/immoral power elites, but it falters as a societal prescription, as modern tolerant Christianity must, in the face of HBD.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    “In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

    And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

    And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

    Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

    Christ doesn’t take orders from halfwit SJWs, nor should we who claim Him as our Lord.

    https://youtu.be/h2BzsNe4V2s
  174. @Reg Cæsar

    modern artists in Poland... women who eat bananas topless...

     

    Natalia Rak can come to my town anytime:



    http://www.theforestmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/The-Forest-Magazine_Natalia-Rak_0080-1170x780.jpg

    http://www.blindeyefactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/%C2%A9blindeyefactory_Natalia-Rak_Terracina-9.jpg

    https://twistedsifter.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/street-art-by-natalia-rak-poland-15.jpg?w=800&h=342

    https://farm66.static.flickr.com/65535/46908808475_6b60342856_b.jpg

    Yikes. Are those pizza shops?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Yikes. Are those pizza shops?
     
    Does the last one constitute sexual harassment? Or is it in the wrong direction?
  175. @Daniel H
    >> I use the word “witch” to signify both my Pagan spiritual beliefs

    >> I was raised Jewish but found myself attracted to belief systems that felt more individualized and mystical and that fully honored the feminine. Eventually I found my way to modern Paganism (Fom time Magazine).

    What a bullshitting con artist. Every American generation, over the past 100 years, has encountered these Jewish Pied Pipers (Anarchists in the 20s, Commies in the 30s-50s, freaks like Abbie Hoffman, Gerry Rubin in the 60s, the entire 70s feminist movement, porn in the 70s, NYC Punk 70s-80s....) who act out against the larger culture and, amazingly, pull along gullible and impressionable youth. As Steve and others have pointed out, what really drives the anger and frustration of these people are the limitations, absurdities, oppression and restrictions of their own peculiar culture, but they can't acknowledge this. To publicly acknowledge would strike against one's own kin, and that is not done lightly by anybody. Hence, they act out in these stupid, but predictable, ways, antagonizing the rest of us, seducing a lot of middling to less than middling IQ youth. Will it ever pass? All always gets promoted, why? Who cares. At this point all I can say is, Yaaaaaawnn.

    Analysis is spot on. What is interesting is that in Israel, these people (who come across as freakish and even seriously mentally disturbed to me) do not seem to get any traction. Our host often points out that Israel seems like a healthy society – with men serving in the army and women still having lots of children. What do they do with this population?

    Anyway does this person really believe in magic? If so I hope she gets some help.

  176. g2k says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    European schools don’t waste all their resources on losers and special education students- tracking still exists in most European countries. Europeans don’t entertain various leftist and minority groups” desire to tear historical down monuments…
     
    This is true, but these are sort of lagging indicators - products of Europe’s previous homogeneity. Europe is certainly more feminist than America - more female heads of government, defense ministers, top regulators, etc.

    Sorry, America is ground zero for this current wave of nonsense. As someone working in tech, on the borderline between gen x and the millenials, i can tell you that wothout exception, the ‘Titania McGrath’ types are from the English speaking world and in their twenties. Foreigners with non-English-speaking accents NEVER engage in this crap. Europe may well have more females in elite positions, but they simply get on with life rather than banging on about the patriarchy or whatever 24/7.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Merkel “got on with life” by welcoming millions of third world men into her country.
  177. @Almost Missouri
    https://dailystormer.name/dr-pizza-ars-technica-journalist-peter-bright-arrested-for-plotting-to-do-anal-on-7-and-9-year-old-girls/
    [Note that if you are at work, you probably do not want this site in your browsing history.]

    tl;dr: Journalist arrested for conspiracy to rape children. This by itself is not so unusual, nor is the deafening silence of his fellow journalists in not covering the story, but also ... his twitter timeline is full of smirking references to ... pizza. But Pizzagate is just a conspiracy theory.

    Not all pedophiles are Satanists but all Satanists engage in pedophilia as part of their rituals.

  178. @g2k
    Sorry, America is ground zero for this current wave of nonsense. As someone working in tech, on the borderline between gen x and the millenials, i can tell you that wothout exception, the 'Titania McGrath' types are from the English speaking world and in their twenties. Foreigners with non-English-speaking accents NEVER engage in this crap. Europe may well have more females in elite positions, but they simply get on with life rather than banging on about the patriarchy or whatever 24/7.

    Merkel “got on with life” by welcoming millions of third world men into her country.

    • Replies: @g2k
    Are you seriously suggesting that a female American politician, or any politician for that matter, with a realistic chance of nomination and election would've done anything different? How's the wall coming along? What's more, as unpleasant as merkel is, she doesn't "treat" us to the kind of incessant tales of woe and adversity that engish speaking female elites do.
  179. @Reg Cæsar

    And when was the last time an important article appeared in Christianity Today?

    Thirty years ago? Sixty?
     
    When they were Christian.

    That about sums it up.

    Well done, Reg.

  180. @Dave Pinsen
    Merkel “got on with life” by welcoming millions of third world men into her country.

    Are you seriously suggesting that a female American politician, or any politician for that matter, with a realistic chance of nomination and election would’ve done anything different? How’s the wall coming along? What’s more, as unpleasant as merkel is, she doesn’t “treat” us to the kind of incessant tales of woe and adversity that engish speaking female elites do.

  181. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Exactly --- you and Reg have nailed it.

    That’s the thing though, all they have to do is confess their sins and repent and most of this goes away. Therein lies my hope.

  182. @vinteuil
    Agreed that he will have to be as wise as serpents. Not sure about the harmless as doves.

    You’d better be when the Eye of Soros is on you.

  183. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    The article starts with some good points about the dangers of hyper-individualism that can lead to the earthly reign of amoral/immoral power elites, but it falters as a societal prescription, as modern tolerant Christianity must, in the face of HBD.

    “In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

    And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

    And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

    Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

    Christ doesn’t take orders from halfwit SJWs, nor should we who claim Him as our Lord.

  184. @L Woods
    The left-leaning wing yes, but the Rush Limbaughs of the world have been snarking at feminism for 30 years. It hasn’t worked.

    What state does Rush represent?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    What state does Rush represent?
     
    He's from Cape Girardeau, the Refrigerator Magnet Capital of America. (Or was, anyway.) So he represents all the states. And many cities. With his magnetism.


    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/a4wAAOSwBwBZjElN/s-l300.jpg


    Hey, look... Rush's brother was involved in a refrigerator magnet dispute himself:


    MAGNETIC COLLECTABLES, LTD. v. ACTION PACKETS, INC.

    Dale E. Gerecke, Finch, Bradshaw, Strom & Steele, Cape Girardeau, for appellant.

    David S. Limbaugh, Limbaugh & Payne, Cape Girardeau, for respondent.

  185. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Yikes. Are those pizza shops?

    Yikes. Are those pizza shops?

    Does the last one constitute sexual harassment? Or is it in the wrong direction?

  186. @Desiderius
    What state does Rush represent?

    What state does Rush represent?

    He’s from Cape Girardeau, the Refrigerator Magnet Capital of America. (Or was, anyway.) So he represents all the states. And many cities. With his magnetism.

    Hey, look… Rush’s brother was involved in a refrigerator magnet dispute himself:

    MAGNETIC COLLECTABLES, LTD. v. ACTION PACKETS, INC.

    Dale E. Gerecke, Finch, Bradshaw, Strom & Steele, Cape Girardeau, for appellant.

    David S. Limbaugh, Limbaugh & Payne, Cape Girardeau, for respondent.

  187. Here’s What Being a Witch Really Means

    By Pam Grossman

    >

    Apparently, what being a Jew really means is the right, privilege, and duty of hectoring )))Whites((( into gelded degeneracy and atomization.

    Until it stops working, I guess.

    Nah, probably forever, regardless.

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