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  1. “Gina Kolata” (say it out loud) sounds like a porn name. Or at least a Bond girl.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    True, but she's a good health beat reporter.
    , @amused
    Pina Colada
  2. Regarding the third of those clips, “Just kill me now”.
    Seriously, though, if it’s true, it’s very worrying. It’s what happened in the ex-Soviet Union.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    It is happening, my friend. It is happening. You should not be surprised.

    More to come...

    It will become increasingly difficult for aging European Americans to pay their medical deductible costs in a system that caters to the fastest growing, least productive segments of the population. Black and brown unwed mothers will get all their baby costs and emergency room visits paid for, while retired Smiths and Joneses who worked all their lives will have a hard time coming up with their share of a hernia operation, hip replacement, or dental care.

    Greater and greater numbers of them will see declining real value in their monthly Social Security deposits, forcing them to make tradeoffs for necessities -- and in many cases sell their homes in a declining market. (They won't be able to afford their property taxes in cities that have to pay school personnel to babysit and feed all those brown babies.)

    Their retirment investments or pensions will shrink or disappear as more and more states and municipalities go bust under the weight of supporting those same growing, unproductive groups. Their investment advisors will unwisely have them in a bubble. (Look around, you are in a bubble now. See the colorful soapy colors swirling around? Isn't it beautiful as the DOW keeps rising...)

    As they say, getting old sucks -- but getting old in a declining civilization sucks even more.

    But don't we all here already know all this?

    , @Horzabky
    French star sociologist Emmanuel Todd noticed in the early 70s that the life expectancy of the average Soviet citizen had decreased. He surmised that it was because the communist system had become so dysfunctional that even hospitals didn't work properly anymore. He predicted that the USSR would collapse 20 years later, and that's exactly what happened.

    Is the USA becoming dysfunctional, too, and doomed to collapse somewhere around 2035? It's a possibility.

    I think that the collapse of the USA will be more brutal than the collapse of the USSR. Communism had ruined the Russian economy, turned everything into a badly run public service, but had left the nations of the old Russian Empire basically intact: Russians, Ukrainians, Estonians, Central Asians, etc., still existed as nations, with their distinct languages and cultures, living in relatively homogenous territories.

    When the cops stop showing up for work because they won't be paid anymore, it's important to live in a homogenous area with people like yourselves, and even better if everyone, yourself included, is everyone else's cousin in your local area.

    The Soviet people used to rely on their private gardens for food. It helped them a lot when the distribution circuits became erratic. As Dimitri Orlov has explained, the USA doesn't have the traits which enabled the former Soviet nations to survive the collapse of the USSR.

    Around 2035, it may be better to live in Vermont (if the Vermont of 2035 still looks like the Vermont of 2015) than in Southern California or New-York.
  3. The comment section is a cornucopia of hatred of whites and conservatives, as if all the people offing themselves are Republicans.

    • Replies: @nglaer
    @Orthodox, not the 100 or so that I read. Many lamenting loss of factory jobs, which is pretty correct or at least part of the story.
    , @AndrewR
    The NYT comments section is the least toxic comment section of any left-leaning publication in the US, as is befitting the least toxic left-leaning publication in the US. Not that that's saying a whole lot...
  4. @snorlax
    "Gina Kolata" (say it out loud) sounds like a porn name. Or at least a Bond girl.

    True, but she’s a good health beat reporter.

    • Replies: @FozzieT
    No, it's a song....

    "If you like Gina Kolata.....Or getting caught in the rain...."
    , @Whiskey
    Kolata wrote an excellent book on the 1918 Flu Pandemic, Wiki says she got a Masters in Math from Maryland and studied molecular biology at MIT as a grad student. Her book "Flu: The Story of the Great Influenza Pandemic of 1918 and the Search for the Virus that Caused It" is a pretty good read. I have it in my library. People have forgotten the scale of the pandemic and how it shut down most of the civilized world.

    That the article was written AT ALL says something.

    Particularly given the fantasies. Obama's fantasy that he can actually DO anything at all in the ME without a massive troop presence: Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 all tried and failed, repeatedly, without lots and lots and lots of actual boots on the ground and tanks and planes and missiles and all that. Obama's fantasy that that he can push transgender stuff that appeals to the Kardashian following set without setting up a backlash. The fantasy that the next step from White suicide is White action. Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose is how the song goes, I believe.

    I think we are at the end of the line for Fantasy Island. The Plane is coming and Tattoo is shouting, but there's no Mr. Roarke and the plane isn't carrying passengers, but something else.
  5. The first derivative matters to men. When your group is trending up life is rosy and full of promise, when your group is trending down the thorns and negativity set in.

    This thought has certainly been better written.

    • Replies: @jJay
    I thought this was a test to figure out what those three stories had in common.
  6. I am amazed that there isn’t a revolution over the transgender thing. Usually families care a lot about protecting their teen daughters and this screams risk. Are people drugged to the gills?

    • Replies: @H2
    There have been stories along those lines, but the complainers are shamed for complaining. A famous one was a woman losing her gym membership after complaining about a transgender woman using the women's facilities:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mich-woman-loses-gym-membership-transgender-complaint-article-1.2141255
    , @AndrewR
    Ah yes. Who could ignore the ubiquitous epidemic of MtF transsexuals raping hapless girls in locker rooms? Must be a librul conspiracy!!!
    , @Bill
    This particular thing is trivia, but it will get worse. Next will be lowering the age of consent and then a relaxation of the taboo (is it even a taboo any more?) against teacher-student contact. When your teenaged son's gay gym teacher nails him, not only will it be legal and not only will he not lose his job, but it will be none of your business and you will be publicly shamed if you object. That won't be trivia because it won't be rare. It already isn't rare--the teachers nailing students part. I give this scenario twenty years to become common, maybe thirty.

    They won't make home schooling illegal, though. The gym teachers will be content only preying on the sons whose parents don't give a crap about them. That will be most of them, and most of them is good enough. This way, there won't be any real resistance. The minority of the population who actually care about their children will have an out; they will take the out; and they will not become radicalized.
    , @AnotherDad

    I am amazed that there isn’t a revolution over the transgender thing.
     
    People simply lack a "vocabulary" to express traditionalist sentiments anymore.

    It's akin to the Martin Niemöller poem. People didn't resist sufficiently when the left trashed this or that traditional distinction because it was "unfair" or "mean" or whatever. Now as the agenda gets even loonier, ordinary people simply lack a coherent way to stand up for even the remaining distinctions, are used to being steamrolled on such things and are *afraid* of being singled out and abused.

    Really, once you let these folks assert that homosexuality is just as good as--if not better!--than normal sexuality ... you're cooked! You no longer have any meaningful distinctions to defend. You no longer have a functioning civilization looking after it's future. The rest of it is trivial.
  7. @Orthodox
    The comment section is a cornucopia of hatred of whites and conservatives, as if all the people offing themselves are Republicans.

    , not the 100 or so that I read. Many lamenting loss of factory jobs, which is pretty correct or at least part of the story.

    • Replies: @carol
    And to think, 50 years ago our best minds were certain that men really wanted out of those horrible factory jobs, so they could pursue self-actualizing dreams instead. You know, write a book, or something.

    Truth is, most of us didn't know what to do with ourselves in the absence of really obvious gifts or ambition. A factory job, a mill job, an office job...whatevs.
  8. Gina Kolata has an interesting family background. She’s the daughter of Arthur & Ruth Bari (a gem cutter and math professor, respectively), former American communists who were close friends of the Rosenbergs and Morton Sobell. Her late sister was the radical environmentalist Judi Bari, though it sounds like the two were somewhat estranged.

    • Replies: @wren
    She seems to be a very interesting and accomplished person in her own right.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Kolata

    BTW, a new Adventure Time episode comes out every day this week, I think. And next week.
    , @5371
    The mathematician was Jewish, the gem cutter - despite his profession - not.
  9. The real test is, when Ruth Bater Ginsberg was a 13-year old girl, would she have been okay with transgenders in her locker room. From 6/26/09 NYTimes:

    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg told USA Today in the spring that judging from their comments at the argument, her colleagues, all men, had failed to appreciate what Ms. Redding had endured.

    “They have never been a 13-year-old girl,” Justice Ginsburg said. “It’s a very sensitive age for a girl. I don’t think that my colleagues, some of them, quite understood.”

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I don't think locks had been invented yet when RBG was 13...
    , @WhatEvvs
    Right! But the 13-year old girl that matters is the transgender girl, aching with desire for womanhood...
  10. Dr. Deaton noticed in national data sets that middle-aged whites were committing suicide at an unprecedented rate and that the all-cause mortality in this group was rising. But suicides alone, he and Dr. Case realized, were not enough to push up overall death rates, so they began looking at other causes of death. That led them to the discovery that deaths from drug and alcohol poisoning also increased in this group.

    They concluded that taken together, suicides, drugs and alcohol explained the overall increase in deaths. The effect was largely confined to people with a high school education or less. In that group, death rates rose by 22 percent while they actually fell for those with a college education.

    So was Charles Murray correct about the growth of the white underclass?

    • Replies: @rod1963
    Blame it on NAFTA and globalization in general.

    Lower class whites just need to realize the working world is a rotten scam for them nowadays, they need to get on the dole and stay there by hook and crook. It pays better and the bennies are free.

    I just have to look at the cashiers at the local Stater Brothers market, the store keeps them at 28 hours a week so they don't have to pay for any bennies, so then they got to find another part time job to make ends meet. Not easy in a state and country where illeagals are sucking up the jobs.

    Manufacturing jobs either don't exist or the shops are laying off what workers they do have.
    , @ben tillman

    So was Charles Murray correct about the growth of the white underclass?
     
    No, this suggests that the white underclass is shrinking.
    , @NOTA
    Is this real, or are we looking at changing how deaths are clssified?
    , @Louis Renault
    Dr. Deaton should do an update after assisted suicide becomes legal nationwide.
  11. @nglaer
    @Orthodox, not the 100 or so that I read. Many lamenting loss of factory jobs, which is pretty correct or at least part of the story.

    And to think, 50 years ago our best minds were certain that men really wanted out of those horrible factory jobs, so they could pursue self-actualizing dreams instead. You know, write a book, or something.

    Truth is, most of us didn’t know what to do with ourselves in the absence of really obvious gifts or ambition. A factory job, a mill job, an office job…whatevs.

    • Replies: @Cracker
    Drink heavily.
    , @Threecranes
    Say what you like about Eric Fromm and his Frankfurt School affiliations, but he, at any rate, like the Early Marx and Veblen, stressed the point about how humans need to be productive in their daily endeavors.

    By "productive" Fromm, Veblen and Marx meant only that we engage in some-what meaningful work. This work didn't need to be earthshakingly original or daring, just socially useful and personally rewarding. Of course, they recognized that "personally rewarding" varies with the individual's capacities and their inherent strengths and weaknesses.

    The alternative, Fromm maintained, was a sense of meaninglessness, concomitant anger and destructiveness.

    Additionally, Fromm (from insight derived through years of listening to people air their grievances and gripes) came to understand that people need a meaningful "frame of reference" that lent their lives some transcendental order and sense of rightness. "Transcendental" doesn't necessarily imply a particular organized religion along with its pantheon of hoary gods but it does imply that people need to feel as though they belong to some larger coherent Gestalt in which their lives unfold, interaction with which gives their lives some sense of purpose and value.

    We see today the dissolution of society's answer to both of these essential needs and the tragic consequences. Looking at the unemployment rates among both uneducated, young blacks and middle-aged white workers and it becomes obvious that our society is falling apart. Leading unproductive lives results in their feelings of worthlessness and purposelessness. According to their genetic predispositions the one revenges itself by taking out their anger on society (with innocent "random" whites in particular suffering the brutal consequences of their selfish rage) and the other responds through self-destructive behavior. That this should be surprising to any competent social scientist is itself surprising.

    Additionally, the left's assault on society's root narratives and myths has deprived people of a transcendent, coherent frame of reference. Their heroes have been slandered and villainised and their cultural icons (statues) have been literally defaced, removed or toppled. Their yearly calendar of religious events has been erased. Memorials to criminal shysters such as MLKing as well as holocaust "museums" defile our sacred public places. The great insights and laws of our Founding Fathers are subjected to "deconstruction" by third-rate minds which have themselves, contributed nothing (comparatively) to the comfort and advancement of the human race. The marvelous inventions (by white men) that have raised the lives of billions of this planet's people from grinding poverty are reviled as tools of oppression. Everything is topsy turvy as the left rejoices in proclaiming the second coming of a "brown world" and celebrates the elevation to rule of those who, hitherto, have demonstrated no particular talent in conceiving or erecting this mirage-like paradise on Earth--or even a fully functioning democratic, first-world economy.

    What do these reformers have to offer except black-demogogue-preacher-revival-style "hope and change"? Certainly no long-term tangible prospects. Just handouts and the immediate gratification provided by reaction to or against an unresponsive Social Order; neither of which provides a productive life nor a meaningful larger frame of reference.
  12. @Steve Sailer
    True, but she's a good health beat reporter.

    No, it’s a song….

    “If you like Gina Kolata…..Or getting caught in the rain….”

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    He's got a point there, Steve. It certainly does sound like the song. Wonder if its a pen name.
  13. @Anon
    I am amazed that there isn't a revolution over the transgender thing. Usually families care a lot about protecting their teen daughters and this screams risk. Are people drugged to the gills?

    There have been stories along those lines, but the complainers are shamed for complaining. A famous one was a woman losing her gym membership after complaining about a transgender woman using the women’s facilities:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mich-woman-loses-gym-membership-transgender-complaint-article-1.2141255

    • Replies: @Disciple of Tyr
    H2, worst part about that story is that the woman had no clue that the man in her lockerroom identified as a woman. In fact all she did was tell them that a man was in her lockerroom. She made no anti-transsexual remarks.
  14. @carol
    And to think, 50 years ago our best minds were certain that men really wanted out of those horrible factory jobs, so they could pursue self-actualizing dreams instead. You know, write a book, or something.

    Truth is, most of us didn't know what to do with ourselves in the absence of really obvious gifts or ambition. A factory job, a mill job, an office job...whatevs.

    Drink heavily.

  15. @JohnnyWalker123

    Dr. Deaton noticed in national data sets that middle-aged whites were committing suicide at an unprecedented rate and that the all-cause mortality in this group was rising. But suicides alone, he and Dr. Case realized, were not enough to push up overall death rates, so they began looking at other causes of death. That led them to the discovery that deaths from drug and alcohol poisoning also increased in this group.

    They concluded that taken together, suicides, drugs and alcohol explained the overall increase in deaths. The effect was largely confined to people with a high school education or less. In that group, death rates rose by 22 percent while they actually fell for those with a college education.
     
    So was Charles Murray correct about the growth of the white underclass?

    Blame it on NAFTA and globalization in general.

    Lower class whites just need to realize the working world is a rotten scam for them nowadays, they need to get on the dole and stay there by hook and crook. It pays better and the bennies are free.

    I just have to look at the cashiers at the local Stater Brothers market, the store keeps them at 28 hours a week so they don’t have to pay for any bennies, so then they got to find another part time job to make ends meet. Not easy in a state and country where illeagals are sucking up the jobs.

    Manufacturing jobs either don’t exist or the shops are laying off what workers they do have.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    How dare you suggest that Undocumented Democrats are taking jobs? You white Rethuglikkkans just don't want to work hard enough for five dollars an hour, 80 hours a week! [posts image macro with dour looking Amerind chief in a feather headdress captioned "you're an illegal too"]
    , @anonymous

    the store keeps them at 28 hours a week so they don’t have to pay for any bennies
     
    Job prospects for the just average person are really poor and seem to have been sliding downwards. The government is in the hands of the upper classes who consider the masses nothing but a pool of labor, preferably available as cheaply as possible. Not everyone can be an ivy league graduate.
    Alcohol abuse, pill-popping, people dressing slovenly, even obesity are all signs of people having given up and no longer caring about themselves. These are all symptoms of demoralization.
    , @Clyde

    Blame it on NAFTA and globalization in general.
    Lower class whites just need to realize the working world is a rotten scam for them nowadays, they need to get on the dole and stay there by hook and crook. It pays better and the bennies are free.
     
    I have been blaming those rotten free trade deals for a long long time. Same ones Donald Trump is campaigning against. Black males have long thought the working world is a scam. Calling those blacks who participated chumps. As in working for chump change. And chump change jobs probably are the only legal jobs in the ghetto. Lord knows there lots of illegal ones such as drug dealing.

    The Hispanic guys are better. Last year I asked one (about 18 years old) at the MacDonald's drive through, how it was going? How does he like working there?
    His reply was he worked there because he didn't like anyone giving him things. I bet his father drilled that into him. Where are the black fathers drilling this into black boys?

  16. As a society, as a civilization we used to celebrate accomplishments and achievements. Now we celebrate the growing acceptance of degenerate forms of human behavior.

    In the past it was the first men in the air; the first man to break the sound barrier; the first man to run the four minute mile; the first man on the moon etc. Now it is the first openly gay person on TV, the first gay kiss, the first “out” athlete in whatever sport; the first transgendered person on the cover of some magazine. The benchmarks by which we now measure our progress are completely inverted from the customary mode by which any previous civilization measured its ascent.

    I believe this to be the fundamental difference between the old America and the new America. So the above priorities don’t surprise me in the least.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @another commenter
    My grandfather's generation put the first man on the moon.
    My Father's generation put he first black man in the whitehouse.
    My generation put the first tranny on the cover of 'Vogue'.
    , @PhysicistDave
    tanabear wrote:

    As a society, as a civilization we used to celebrate accomplishments and achievements. Now we celebrate the growing acceptance of degenerate forms of human behavior.

    In the past it was the first men in the air; the first man to break the sound barrier; the first man to run the four minute mile; the first man on the moon etc.
     
    One of my childhood heroes was Roger Bannister, who broke the four-minute mile shortly before I was born.

    I was not a runner, or an athlete of any sort. But, they said no one could do it, and Bannister did it. Cool.

    I'm afraid you have a point.

    Dave
    , @SFG
    Yeah.

    I do wonder if there is an additional problem in that a lot of the science stuff is done by teams now--did any one person really find those drugs for AIDS? Can anyone (other than Steve, perhaps) tell me who discovered Rituximab?

    There was that dude who landed a rocket on a comet, but he had bad fashion taste.
  17. I am wondering what the spin is going to be when one of these transgender “girls” sexually assaults a female classmate in the girls’ locker room. It seems inevitable that it’s eventually going to happen.

    A mature adult who has had to struggle with the issue for years is one thing. A transgender person who’s willing to pay a significant social cost for being transgender, I can believe. But having once been a heterosexual teenage boy, it seems perfectly plausible to me that a troubled heterosexual teenage boy with a low sexual market value might embrace the chance to go ogle naked girls in the shower just by claiming he “feels like a girl.” If he’s already a nobody, what’s he got to lose by pretending to be even more of a weirdo? From his perspective, there’s just very little cost to saying “I’m really a girl” just to get in the girls’ locker room.

    I feel like I’m watching a car crash in slow-motion, and we’re at the part where we can see the crash is unavoidable but there’s no way to step in and stop it from happening.

    I guess when it eventually happens, we’ll get some variation of the “well, it would have been just as wrong if it were committed by a cisgender girl” argument. As if the whole episode was just one of those “whaddya gonna do” things that nobody could have possibly foreseen.

    You know society is doomed when you have to expend intellectual energy defending the basic principles that prior generations just took as common sense.

    • Agree: International Jew
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Presumably he would be expelled and arrested.
    , @jimbojones
    "I am wondering what the spin is going to be when one of these transgender “girls” sexually assaults a female classmate in the girls’ locker room. It seems inevitable that it’s eventually going to happen."

    Then they'd say the guy really was a perverted man who was only pretending to be a transgender. And he would have committed a double sin - he would have offended both transgenders and women. Need more money, laws & "education" (i.e. indoctrination and useless work for resentful people with useless degrees) to fix the problem etc etc.

    Here are the rules of the game: Tails, they win. Heads, you lose.
  18. Steve, when are you going to break your silence on THE COYWOLF

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Haven't I written about it multiple times over the years? It comes up in "Race Does Not Exist" discussions because here we have not races but legally recognized separate species (wolves have typically been protected by the Endangered Species Act), but the boundaries between the species are fuzzy. You could apply the same standards used to say race does not exist to dogs/coyotes/wolves to say that species don't exist. But species do exist, although it's difficult to come up with an all purpose definition.
  19. @jJay
    The first derivative matters to men. When your group is trending up life is rosy and full of promise, when your group is trending down the thorns and negativity set in.

    This thought has certainly been better written.

    I thought this was a test to figure out what those three stories had in common.

  20. @Earl Lemongrab
    Gina Kolata has an interesting family background. She's the daughter of Arthur & Ruth Bari (a gem cutter and math professor, respectively), former American communists who were close friends of the Rosenbergs and Morton Sobell. Her late sister was the radical environmentalist Judi Bari, though it sounds like the two were somewhat estranged.

    She seems to be a very interesting and accomplished person in her own right.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Kolata

    BTW, a new Adventure Time episode comes out every day this week, I think. And next week.

  21. @Anonymous
    Steve, when are you going to break your silence on THE COYWOLF

    Haven’t I written about it multiple times over the years? It comes up in “Race Does Not Exist” discussions because here we have not races but legally recognized separate species (wolves have typically been protected by the Endangered Species Act), but the boundaries between the species are fuzzy. You could apply the same standards used to say race does not exist to dogs/coyotes/wolves to say that species don’t exist. But species do exist, although it’s difficult to come up with an all purpose definition.

  22. @JohnnyWalker123

    Dr. Deaton noticed in national data sets that middle-aged whites were committing suicide at an unprecedented rate and that the all-cause mortality in this group was rising. But suicides alone, he and Dr. Case realized, were not enough to push up overall death rates, so they began looking at other causes of death. That led them to the discovery that deaths from drug and alcohol poisoning also increased in this group.

    They concluded that taken together, suicides, drugs and alcohol explained the overall increase in deaths. The effect was largely confined to people with a high school education or less. In that group, death rates rose by 22 percent while they actually fell for those with a college education.
     
    So was Charles Murray correct about the growth of the white underclass?

    So was Charles Murray correct about the growth of the white underclass?

    No, this suggests that the white underclass is shrinking.

  23. @tanabear
    As a society, as a civilization we used to celebrate accomplishments and achievements. Now we celebrate the growing acceptance of degenerate forms of human behavior.

    In the past it was the first men in the air; the first man to break the sound barrier; the first man to run the four minute mile; the first man on the moon etc. Now it is the first openly gay person on TV, the first gay kiss, the first "out" athlete in whatever sport; the first transgendered person on the cover of some magazine. The benchmarks by which we now measure our progress are completely inverted from the customary mode by which any previous civilization measured its ascent.

    I believe this to be the fundamental difference between the old America and the new America. So the above priorities don't surprise me in the least.

    My grandfather’s generation put the first man on the moon.
    My Father’s generation put he first black man in the whitehouse.
    My generation put the first tranny on the cover of ‘Vogue’.

    • Replies: @Hacienda
    Causal sequence?
  24. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    There are way too many people in the US government who are trained as lawyers. Reality ends up being webs of words.

    Too many like-minded people who spent their education sitting around tables playing web-of-word games.

    Too many people in the media-government complex endlessly mass-producing webs of words.

    After awhile these people may are probably too confused to deal with the modern world. Dealing with fiction — nice webs-of-words that always work out in an emotionally satisfying way — is so much more attractive.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Too many like-minded people who spent their education sitting around tables playing web-of-word games.

    What is a "web-of-word" game?
  25. @FozzieT
    No, it's a song....

    "If you like Gina Kolata.....Or getting caught in the rain...."

    He’s got a point there, Steve. It certainly does sound like the song. Wonder if its a pen name.

    • Replies: @anon
    Took husband's surname. Maiden name is Bari.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Kolata
  26. Federal education authorities

    Trump could garner more support with a pledge to completely dismantle the Dept of Education in his first term.

    • Replies: @Das
    Eh, that old Republican chestnut "eliminate the Department of Education!" started as Reagan's pander to one of the major teacher's unions back in 1980, who opposed Carter splitting HEW into Education and HHS.

    In 1980 it wasn't totally clear that Reagan would be so anti-union, so he actually received a few major union endorsements. But once in office he had more important priorities than bringing back HEW.
    , @jJay
    It would be nice if I could ask the oracles that be "department of education number of employees graph" like I could "global temperature graph". IIRC, Heather MacDonald wondered about that and found that Obama had doubled the number DOE employees, and that was a few years ago.

    What a good salesman would say is "I love the Department of Education and want it to be staffed at the same level and with same outstanding mission as proposed by President Jimmy Carter!"
    , @LondonBob
    When Jesse Ventura interviewed Trump a few years ago, abolish the Department of Education was Jesse's recommendation, best left to the States. So wouldn't be surprised if it isn't, or will be, a policy.
  27. @eah
    Federal education authorities

    Trump could garner more support with a pledge to completely dismantle the Dept of Education in his first term.

    Eh, that old Republican chestnut “eliminate the Department of Education!” started as Reagan’s pander to one of the major teacher’s unions back in 1980, who opposed Carter splitting HEW into Education and HHS.

    In 1980 it wasn’t totally clear that Reagan would be so anti-union, so he actually received a few major union endorsements. But once in office he had more important priorities than bringing back HEW.

    • Replies: @eah
    They don't do anything that needs doing that couldn't be done as well or better on a local(-er) level -- every state has a similar bureaucracy of its own. And they waste a LOT of other people's money on hopeless efforts to 'close the gap'; not to mention misc other bullshit like 'transgender rights'. Lastly, 40% of the employees are black -- be serious: what do think an agency where 40% of the employees are black is really like?
  28. @Steve Sailer
    True, but she's a good health beat reporter.

    Kolata wrote an excellent book on the 1918 Flu Pandemic, Wiki says she got a Masters in Math from Maryland and studied molecular biology at MIT as a grad student. Her book “Flu: The Story of the Great Influenza Pandemic of 1918 and the Search for the Virus that Caused It” is a pretty good read. I have it in my library. People have forgotten the scale of the pandemic and how it shut down most of the civilized world.

    That the article was written AT ALL says something.

    Particularly given the fantasies. Obama’s fantasy that he can actually DO anything at all in the ME without a massive troop presence: Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 all tried and failed, repeatedly, without lots and lots and lots of actual boots on the ground and tanks and planes and missiles and all that. Obama’s fantasy that that he can push transgender stuff that appeals to the Kardashian following set without setting up a backlash. The fantasy that the next step from White suicide is White action. Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose is how the song goes, I believe.

    I think we are at the end of the line for Fantasy Island. The Plane is coming and Tattoo is shouting, but there’s no Mr. Roarke and the plane isn’t carrying passengers, but something else.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    I think we are at the end of the line for Fantasy Island. The Plane is coming and Tattoo is shouting, but there’s no Mr. Roarke and the plane isn’t carrying passengers, but something else.
     
    What does this mean? Is Fantasy Island the U.S.? What's with empty plane? Maybe the plane crashed into Fantasy Island because it is weighted down with Third-World stowaways?
    , @Big Bill

    I think we are at the end of the line for Fantasy Island. The Plane is coming and Tattoo is shouting, but there’s no Mr. Roarke and the plane isn’t carrying passengers, but something else.
     
    Very nice. I will borrow it. Although it won't work on anyone younger than 45. :)
    , @rod1963
    Obama’s fantasy that that he can push transgender stuff that appeals to the Kardashian following set without setting up a backlash. The fantasy that the next step from White suicide is White action.

    Well of course he can ram transgenderism down our collective throats when he has the police and courts enforcing his decrees at gun point or the threat of losing ones job. He doesn't need to be right, he just needs the ability to bully people.

    That's what it all boils down to, you really can make fantasies come true, all you need is goons with guns to convince the rest of the people. Of course it's all legal because some freak in a black dress says so.

    Problem is if the tyrant and his goons push the people into a corner with nothing left to lose they'll fight back and hard.
  29. @eah
    Federal education authorities

    Trump could garner more support with a pledge to completely dismantle the Dept of Education in his first term.

    It would be nice if I could ask the oracles that be “department of education number of employees graph” like I could “global temperature graph”. IIRC, Heather MacDonald wondered about that and found that Obama had doubled the number DOE employees, and that was a few years ago.

    What a good salesman would say is “I love the Department of Education and want it to be staffed at the same level and with same outstanding mission as proposed by President Jimmy Carter!”

  30. @Das
    Eh, that old Republican chestnut "eliminate the Department of Education!" started as Reagan's pander to one of the major teacher's unions back in 1980, who opposed Carter splitting HEW into Education and HHS.

    In 1980 it wasn't totally clear that Reagan would be so anti-union, so he actually received a few major union endorsements. But once in office he had more important priorities than bringing back HEW.

    They don’t do anything that needs doing that couldn’t be done as well or better on a local(-er) level — every state has a similar bureaucracy of its own. And they waste a LOT of other people’s money on hopeless efforts to ‘close the gap’; not to mention misc other bullshit like ‘transgender rights’. Lastly, 40% of the employees are black — be serious: what do think an agency where 40% of the employees are black is really like?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Leftists, except for the negligible anarchist/libertarian varieties, are overwhelmingly against local control of anything. The federal government is seen as superior to state government in every way, which in turn is seen as superior to local government. If the federal governmemt was filled with more competent folks than smaller governments than I could get on this train, but it's not.
    , @Das
    The federal Department of Education mostly disburses student loans and aid for college students and grants to low-income school districts.

    "Abolish the Department of Education" means that the office building that handles student aid and school grants is part of HEW and not its own department, like it was before Carter reshuffled things. It wouldn't magically eliminate the underlying functions of the department.

    A bill to actually eliminate the student loan program and aid to schools would attract almost no support in Congress, and would end up hurting any candidate that got behind it.
  31. @Earl Lemongrab
    Gina Kolata has an interesting family background. She's the daughter of Arthur & Ruth Bari (a gem cutter and math professor, respectively), former American communists who were close friends of the Rosenbergs and Morton Sobell. Her late sister was the radical environmentalist Judi Bari, though it sounds like the two were somewhat estranged.

    The mathematician was Jewish, the gem cutter – despite his profession – not.

    • Replies: @iffen
    It's a new record; all the way down to #31.
  32. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    He's got a point there, Steve. It certainly does sound like the song. Wonder if its a pen name.

    Took husband’s surname. Maiden name is Bari.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Kolata

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar


    [Gina Kolata] Took husband’s surname. Maiden name is Bari.

     

    Gene Barry is a tranny?
  33. @Orthodox
    The comment section is a cornucopia of hatred of whites and conservatives, as if all the people offing themselves are Republicans.

    The NYT comments section is the least toxic comment section of any left-leaning publication in the US, as is befitting the least toxic left-leaning publication in the US. Not that that’s saying a whole lot…

    • Replies: @snorlax
    The Washington Post is far less toxic than the NYT. Just for one recent example, they were the first mainstream outlet to expose the Rolling Stone/UVA thing as a hoax, and pretty quickly, although I don't think they ever picked up the Haven Monahan angle.
    , @neutral
    I am a sucker for punishment, can you direct me to the most left leaning publication in the US.
  34. @Anon
    I am amazed that there isn't a revolution over the transgender thing. Usually families care a lot about protecting their teen daughters and this screams risk. Are people drugged to the gills?

    Ah yes. Who could ignore the ubiquitous epidemic of MtF transsexuals raping hapless girls in locker rooms? Must be a librul conspiracy!!!

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Isn't raping setting the bar a little high? I would think most parents would object to their daughters being ogled by peeping tom.
    , @Big Bill
    I hear the transsexual is a black football player, 6' 4" tall, who still has a penis (like Caitlyn Jenner) and has decided he is not merely a woman, but a diesel dyke biker. No cute, frilly, pink dresses for this transsexual!

    In fact, it was the triple oppression that he suffered (race + orientation + sex) that made his case so compelling to the Feds and the reason they felt obligated to let him share the hetero white girls' showers.

    The real oppressors are the racist, sexist, genderist white girls.

    [ok, I made that up]
    , @Mr. Anon
    "Ah yes. Who could ignore the ubiquitous epidemic of MtF transsexuals raping hapless girls in locker rooms? Must be a librul conspiracy!!!"

    Right, and why pay attention to that annoying fire alarm. After all, the house isn't on fire.

    , @bomag
    Ah yes... the ubiquitous epidemic...

    Thanks once again for trying to shame us into accepting a new social norm that has no good end, and to which you will never be held to account when things don't work out.

    The crusaders and SJWs are anxious to give away our social capital to causes of dubious utility.
    , @Bill
    Thanks for stopping by, Dr Caplan.
    , @Federalist
    Anon said, "this screams risk." He did not say or imply that there is a "ubiquitous epidemic" of transsexuals raping girls in locker rooms. You are trying to make us normal people look like the hysterical, crazy ones. We are not the ones who are indulging the trannies' delusions by letting them use the women's bathroom and pretending that we think that they are really women.

    Why is the burden always on normal people? I don't want tranny perverts in bathrooms or locker rooms with my daughters even if there is no "ubiquitous epidemic." It's not like I am asking society for some unusual or burdensome accommodation. The trannies and their SJW pals are, though. They are the ones who are acting as if letting deranged men pee in the women's bathrooms is the moral equivalent of ending slavery.

    Look. Maybe the trannies are harmless but I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt. Considering that they are crazy enough to cut off their genitals or at least dream of doing so, it stands to reason that they are likely crazy enough to be a threat to women.

    , @Hibernian
    You make a comment like that while in another comment posing as a conservative of sorts defending the "Gray Lady" as having a less toxic comments section than those of other leftwing media outlets. you are a transparent fraud.
  35. @David
    The real test is, when Ruth Bater Ginsberg was a 13-year old girl, would she have been okay with transgenders in her locker room. From 6/26/09 NYTimes:

    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg told USA Today in the spring that judging from their comments at the argument, her colleagues, all men, had failed to appreciate what Ms. Redding had endured.

    “They have never been a 13-year-old girl,” Justice Ginsburg said. “It’s a very sensitive age for a girl. I don’t think that my colleagues, some of them, quite understood.”
     

    I don’t think locks had been invented yet when RBG was 13…

  36. @rod1963
    Blame it on NAFTA and globalization in general.

    Lower class whites just need to realize the working world is a rotten scam for them nowadays, they need to get on the dole and stay there by hook and crook. It pays better and the bennies are free.

    I just have to look at the cashiers at the local Stater Brothers market, the store keeps them at 28 hours a week so they don't have to pay for any bennies, so then they got to find another part time job to make ends meet. Not easy in a state and country where illeagals are sucking up the jobs.

    Manufacturing jobs either don't exist or the shops are laying off what workers they do have.

    How dare you suggest that Undocumented Democrats are taking jobs? You white Rethuglikkkans just don’t want to work hard enough for five dollars an hour, 80 hours a week! [posts image macro with dour looking Amerind chief in a feather headdress captioned "you're an illegal too"]

  37. @Mr. Blank
    I am wondering what the spin is going to be when one of these transgender "girls" sexually assaults a female classmate in the girls' locker room. It seems inevitable that it's eventually going to happen.

    A mature adult who has had to struggle with the issue for years is one thing. A transgender person who's willing to pay a significant social cost for being transgender, I can believe. But having once been a heterosexual teenage boy, it seems perfectly plausible to me that a troubled heterosexual teenage boy with a low sexual market value might embrace the chance to go ogle naked girls in the shower just by claiming he "feels like a girl." If he's already a nobody, what's he got to lose by pretending to be even more of a weirdo? From his perspective, there's just very little cost to saying "I'm really a girl" just to get in the girls' locker room.

    I feel like I'm watching a car crash in slow-motion, and we're at the part where we can see the crash is unavoidable but there's no way to step in and stop it from happening.

    I guess when it eventually happens, we'll get some variation of the "well, it would have been just as wrong if it were committed by a cisgender girl" argument. As if the whole episode was just one of those "whaddya gonna do" things that nobody could have possibly foreseen.

    You know society is doomed when you have to expend intellectual energy defending the basic principles that prior generations just took as common sense.

    Presumably he would be expelled and arrested.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    I occasionally read Gender Trender. She keeps a running tally of the mayhem. Apparently "transwomen" (I cannot use that odious coinage w/out square quotes) assault women in the exact same percentages as other men do. Which means, not a high percentage, but the point is, a woman is quite right to be on her guard around strange men, even normal nice uncriminal strange men.

    Any man with a daughter, wife, sister, daughter-in-law, would feel unease at the thought of his female relatives being around a "transwoman" in a vulnerable situation. Which is any situation - a woman is at a terrible disadvantage physically against a man.

    So far, most of the cases GT has documented involve trannies who are entrusted with leading groups of vulnerable, messed up teens. This is like letting the fox into the henhouse. These crimes have not gotten a lot of attention because they don't happen at Horace Mann.

    I say I occasionally read GT - I find her nearly as hard to take as the trannies. She's crazy too, but in a different way. She moderates comments severely, so I didn't bother saying this, but it occurred to me that this was the inevitable consequence of 40 years of radical feminism. (In that when you reject male protection, you are exposed to the wolves.) No point in trying to say that - she would never approve my comment. But there are many radfem comments there to the effect of, "why is it only conservatives who understand what we are saying?" They can't connect the dots. They are very clueless about their own responsibility in this matter.
    , @pyrrhus
    Not a chance--the little insane thug would probably get on a magazine cover...
    , @Hibernian
    If so, no thanks to people like you.
  38. @eah
    They don't do anything that needs doing that couldn't be done as well or better on a local(-er) level -- every state has a similar bureaucracy of its own. And they waste a LOT of other people's money on hopeless efforts to 'close the gap'; not to mention misc other bullshit like 'transgender rights'. Lastly, 40% of the employees are black -- be serious: what do think an agency where 40% of the employees are black is really like?

    Leftists, except for the negligible anarchist/libertarian varieties, are overwhelmingly against local control of anything. The federal government is seen as superior to state government in every way, which in turn is seen as superior to local government. If the federal governmemt was filled with more competent folks than smaller governments than I could get on this train, but it’s not.

  39. @AndrewR
    The NYT comments section is the least toxic comment section of any left-leaning publication in the US, as is befitting the least toxic left-leaning publication in the US. Not that that's saying a whole lot...

    The Washington Post is far less toxic than the NYT. Just for one recent example, they were the first mainstream outlet to expose the Rolling Stone/UVA thing as a hoax, and pretty quickly, although I don’t think they ever picked up the Haven Monahan angle.

    • Replies: @Disciple of Tyr
    @snorlax, if Drudge links a WaPo article it often ends up looking like Breitbart in the comments. Never see that in the NYT.
  40. @eah
    They don't do anything that needs doing that couldn't be done as well or better on a local(-er) level -- every state has a similar bureaucracy of its own. And they waste a LOT of other people's money on hopeless efforts to 'close the gap'; not to mention misc other bullshit like 'transgender rights'. Lastly, 40% of the employees are black -- be serious: what do think an agency where 40% of the employees are black is really like?

    The federal Department of Education mostly disburses student loans and aid for college students and grants to low-income school districts.

    “Abolish the Department of Education” means that the office building that handles student aid and school grants is part of HEW and not its own department, like it was before Carter reshuffled things. It wouldn’t magically eliminate the underlying functions of the department.

    A bill to actually eliminate the student loan program and aid to schools would attract almost no support in Congress, and would end up hurting any candidate that got behind it.

  41. @AndrewR
    Ah yes. Who could ignore the ubiquitous epidemic of MtF transsexuals raping hapless girls in locker rooms? Must be a librul conspiracy!!!

    Isn’t raping setting the bar a little high? I would think most parents would object to their daughters being ogled by peeping tom.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Well without looking it up, I would guess that MtF transsexuals are less likely to be attracted to females than the average male is. Would you rather your son be "ogled" than your daughter?

    Plus, I know it's trendy around these parts to label transgenderism a "perversion", and maybe it is, but I do not think transsexuals are more likely than cis folks to be "perverts" in the colloquial sense: that is, liable to sexually objectify unwilling persons. Most gay males don't ogle other men in locker rooms. Part of it may be self-preservation but I think most of it can be explained by basic human decency.

    Of course some gay males do act inappropriately. When I was about nine years old there was another boy my age who would run around the locker room, fully nude and tumescent, laughing and daring the other boys to see what he had on offer. Some might blame that on his youth but the rest of us boys [or is it "we boys"] were unanimously horrified at his behavior.

    Anyway, my point is that if we're not talking about rape, in which physical size and strength play a role, what does it matter who disrobes with whom? I simply don't think Dani the Tranny is more likely to ogle your daughter than s/he is to ogle your son. And I dont think s/he's more likely to ogle your daughter than a lesbian is. I am open to evidence to the contrary but I have yet to see it.

    , @carol
    Nothing that a vicious pile-on by NAM girls wouldn't fix. They give no quarter.
  42. I remember reading a story where Greece also has an ever increasing suicide rate. Things are really bleak there and there does not seem to be a future for many Greeks. However if you are going to contemplate suicide then at least do something constructive first, throwing rotten tomatoes at the corrupt politicians for example. Ending ones life in the end rewards the people that have made Greece a mess, I am sure the same applies to America.

    • Replies: @Melendwyr

    However if you are going to contemplate suicide then at least do something constructive first, throwing rotten tomatoes at the corrupt politicians for example.
     
    That line of thinking would result in people either choosing to off themselves in attention-attracting ways, like setting themselves on fire in public venues, or taking the Palestinian Option.

    Besides, the people are killing themselves precisely because they've given up on doing 'constructive' things. I can't blame them. There's no place to emigrate to, no way to escape. When the least unfree nation becomes intolerable, there's no alternative.
  43. @AndrewR
    The NYT comments section is the least toxic comment section of any left-leaning publication in the US, as is befitting the least toxic left-leaning publication in the US. Not that that's saying a whole lot...

    I am a sucker for punishment, can you direct me to the most left leaning publication in the US.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Well they all differ a bit in editorial style, size of readership, and [possibly] amount of intellectual honesty, but I'd say the worst notable offender is Salon.com
    , @SFG
    Oh, they come in so many different flavors!

    There's Alternet for hippie leftism.
    For limousine liberalism, try Salon.
    For Communism, there's Jacobin.
    And don't forget National Review Online... ;)
    , @snorlax
    Jezebel

    You're welcome.
  44. @snorlax
    "Gina Kolata" (say it out loud) sounds like a porn name. Or at least a Bond girl.

    Pina Colada

  45. @tanabear
    As a society, as a civilization we used to celebrate accomplishments and achievements. Now we celebrate the growing acceptance of degenerate forms of human behavior.

    In the past it was the first men in the air; the first man to break the sound barrier; the first man to run the four minute mile; the first man on the moon etc. Now it is the first openly gay person on TV, the first gay kiss, the first "out" athlete in whatever sport; the first transgendered person on the cover of some magazine. The benchmarks by which we now measure our progress are completely inverted from the customary mode by which any previous civilization measured its ascent.

    I believe this to be the fundamental difference between the old America and the new America. So the above priorities don't surprise me in the least.

    tanabear wrote:

    As a society, as a civilization we used to celebrate accomplishments and achievements. Now we celebrate the growing acceptance of degenerate forms of human behavior.

    In the past it was the first men in the air; the first man to break the sound barrier; the first man to run the four minute mile; the first man on the moon etc.

    One of my childhood heroes was Roger Bannister, who broke the four-minute mile shortly before I was born.

    I was not a runner, or an athlete of any sort. But, they said no one could do it, and Bannister did it. Cool.

    I’m afraid you have a point.

    Dave

  46. @neutral
    I am a sucker for punishment, can you direct me to the most left leaning publication in the US.

    Well they all differ a bit in editorial style, size of readership, and [possibly] amount of intellectual honesty, but I’d say the worst notable offender is Salon.com

  47. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Whiskey
    Kolata wrote an excellent book on the 1918 Flu Pandemic, Wiki says she got a Masters in Math from Maryland and studied molecular biology at MIT as a grad student. Her book "Flu: The Story of the Great Influenza Pandemic of 1918 and the Search for the Virus that Caused It" is a pretty good read. I have it in my library. People have forgotten the scale of the pandemic and how it shut down most of the civilized world.

    That the article was written AT ALL says something.

    Particularly given the fantasies. Obama's fantasy that he can actually DO anything at all in the ME without a massive troop presence: Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 all tried and failed, repeatedly, without lots and lots and lots of actual boots on the ground and tanks and planes and missiles and all that. Obama's fantasy that that he can push transgender stuff that appeals to the Kardashian following set without setting up a backlash. The fantasy that the next step from White suicide is White action. Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose is how the song goes, I believe.

    I think we are at the end of the line for Fantasy Island. The Plane is coming and Tattoo is shouting, but there's no Mr. Roarke and the plane isn't carrying passengers, but something else.

    I think we are at the end of the line for Fantasy Island. The Plane is coming and Tattoo is shouting, but there’s no Mr. Roarke and the plane isn’t carrying passengers, but something else.

    What does this mean? Is Fantasy Island the U.S.? What’s with empty plane? Maybe the plane crashed into Fantasy Island because it is weighted down with Third-World stowaways?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    What does this mean? Is Fantasy Island the U.S.? What’s with empty plane?
     
    The difference between Fantasy Island and contemporary America is that Mr Roarke wasn't running a cargo cult.
  48. @tanabear
    As a society, as a civilization we used to celebrate accomplishments and achievements. Now we celebrate the growing acceptance of degenerate forms of human behavior.

    In the past it was the first men in the air; the first man to break the sound barrier; the first man to run the four minute mile; the first man on the moon etc. Now it is the first openly gay person on TV, the first gay kiss, the first "out" athlete in whatever sport; the first transgendered person on the cover of some magazine. The benchmarks by which we now measure our progress are completely inverted from the customary mode by which any previous civilization measured its ascent.

    I believe this to be the fundamental difference between the old America and the new America. So the above priorities don't surprise me in the least.

    Yeah.

    I do wonder if there is an additional problem in that a lot of the science stuff is done by teams now–did any one person really find those drugs for AIDS? Can anyone (other than Steve, perhaps) tell me who discovered Rituximab?

    There was that dude who landed a rocket on a comet, but he had bad fashion taste.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "Can anyone (other than Steve, perhaps) tell me who discovered Rituximab?"

    I'm thinking Lee Nadler?

    Anyway, thanks to everybody involved.

    , @Mr. Anon
    "There was that dude who landed a rocket on a comet, but he had bad fashion taste."

    He didn't actually land a rocket on a comet. The space-craft landed itself on the comet. The dudes in mission control monitored the spacecraft, and "that dude" monitored those dudes.

  49. @neutral
    I am a sucker for punishment, can you direct me to the most left leaning publication in the US.

    Oh, they come in so many different flavors!

    There’s Alternet for hippie leftism.
    For limousine liberalism, try Salon.
    For Communism, there’s Jacobin.
    And don’t forget National Review Online… ;)

  50. @Dave Pinsen
    Isn't raping setting the bar a little high? I would think most parents would object to their daughters being ogled by peeping tom.

    Well without looking it up, I would guess that MtF transsexuals are less likely to be attracted to females than the average male is. Would you rather your son be “ogled” than your daughter?

    Plus, I know it’s trendy around these parts to label transgenderism a “perversion”, and maybe it is, but I do not think transsexuals are more likely than cis folks to be “perverts” in the colloquial sense: that is, liable to sexually objectify unwilling persons. Most gay males don’t ogle other men in locker rooms. Part of it may be self-preservation but I think most of it can be explained by basic human decency.

    Of course some gay males do act inappropriately. When I was about nine years old there was another boy my age who would run around the locker room, fully nude and tumescent, laughing and daring the other boys to see what he had on offer. Some might blame that on his youth but the rest of us boys [or is it "we boys"] were unanimously horrified at his behavior.

    Anyway, my point is that if we’re not talking about rape, in which physical size and strength play a role, what does it matter who disrobes with whom? I simply don’t think Dani the Tranny is more likely to ogle your daughter than s/he is to ogle your son. And I dont think s/he’s more likely to ogle your daughter than a lesbian is. I am open to evidence to the contrary but I have yet to see it.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    Most of these are male autogynephiliacs, not male homosexuals. The diminutive, effeminate Bradley Manning is probably a male homosexual. Bruce Jenner is clearly an autogynephiliac. When I saw the trailer for 'I Am Cait,' I actually laughed; it's not even a well-done contrivance.

    There's a video out there somewhere of a male tranny blowing up on a street and reverting to Y-chromosomal type quite effortlessly.
    , @Jack D
    If it doesn't really matter who disrobes with whom, then why have separate locker rooms at all?

    In order to have any kind of meaningful separation, you have to have pretty clear cut rules - instead of boys and girls locker room, I suggest that we have the XX and XY locker room. If you don't feel comfortable in the locker room assigned to your chromosome type, then we'll give you a private changing room, just like we have separate handicapped bathrooms. You can't let the tail wag the dog.

    There have always been gays of the same sex in locker rooms, though mostly closeted in the past. Probably the most dangerous combination is adult gay men with boys or adolescents (Hastert, Penn State, etc.). In the past we probably would have been safer with adult women and boys but nowadays female teachers have also shown a willingness to have relationships with boys. Note that in most cases (involving teachers of either gender) these are statutory rape (i.e. consensual but with someone below the age of consent) rather than assault. Our society is schizophrenic - on the one hand we sexualize teens but on the other hand we put them off limits. Either the law has to catch up with contemporary morality or vice versa.

    We are bound and determined to ride the slippery slope all the way down until we hit rock bottom and then someone will hit the "reset" button that won't be pretty either. That's just human nature - you would think that people would stop drinking or taking drugs as soon as it begins to affect their well being, but no, people have to keep going until they have lost everything and THEN then go into rehab (or else they die). At this point in our society it's not clear whether we are going to make it to rehab or not.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Most gay males don’t ogle other men in locker rooms
     
    Most straight men don't ogle women in locker rooms-- because they're not permitted in those locker rooms at all, and would be promptly arrested should they enter them at all.

    Our discomfort at homophiles in our locker rooms isn't bigotry. It's simple reciprocity.
    , @William Badwhite
    "but I do not think transsexuals are more likely than normal folks to be “perverts”"

    You misspelled normal. FIFY.
    , @MC
    "Most gay males don't ogle other men in locker rooms."

    (citation needed)
  51. @Whiskey
    Kolata wrote an excellent book on the 1918 Flu Pandemic, Wiki says she got a Masters in Math from Maryland and studied molecular biology at MIT as a grad student. Her book "Flu: The Story of the Great Influenza Pandemic of 1918 and the Search for the Virus that Caused It" is a pretty good read. I have it in my library. People have forgotten the scale of the pandemic and how it shut down most of the civilized world.

    That the article was written AT ALL says something.

    Particularly given the fantasies. Obama's fantasy that he can actually DO anything at all in the ME without a massive troop presence: Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 all tried and failed, repeatedly, without lots and lots and lots of actual boots on the ground and tanks and planes and missiles and all that. Obama's fantasy that that he can push transgender stuff that appeals to the Kardashian following set without setting up a backlash. The fantasy that the next step from White suicide is White action. Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose is how the song goes, I believe.

    I think we are at the end of the line for Fantasy Island. The Plane is coming and Tattoo is shouting, but there's no Mr. Roarke and the plane isn't carrying passengers, but something else.

    I think we are at the end of the line for Fantasy Island. The Plane is coming and Tattoo is shouting, but there’s no Mr. Roarke and the plane isn’t carrying passengers, but something else.

    Very nice. I will borrow it. Although it won’t work on anyone younger than 45. :)

  52. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @David
    The real test is, when Ruth Bater Ginsberg was a 13-year old girl, would she have been okay with transgenders in her locker room. From 6/26/09 NYTimes:

    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg told USA Today in the spring that judging from their comments at the argument, her colleagues, all men, had failed to appreciate what Ms. Redding had endured.

    “They have never been a 13-year-old girl,” Justice Ginsburg said. “It’s a very sensitive age for a girl. I don’t think that my colleagues, some of them, quite understood.”
     

    Right! But the 13-year old girl that matters is the transgender girl, aching with desire for womanhood…

    • Replies: @eah
    transgender girl

    Is that a girl who wants to be/thinks she's a boy? Or a boy who thinks he is/wants to be a girl? I can never keep that, uhh, straight -- and current, uhh, terminology is not really so obvious/clear. I suggest newboy and newgirl, respectively.
    , @TheJester
    Why the aching and agony from a transgendered 13-year old girl? Gender is a choice. Will it ... say it, and it is so! I know I read that somewhere.

    Same for race. If there are no races, what is all of this fuss about? I guess we gringos are discrimating and committing micro-aggressions against people who don't exist. Shame on us!

    Ah, I get it! Race is also a choice. I can't understand why people would "choose" to become a victimized underclass, but who am I to criticize someone elses choices?
  53. @carol
    And to think, 50 years ago our best minds were certain that men really wanted out of those horrible factory jobs, so they could pursue self-actualizing dreams instead. You know, write a book, or something.

    Truth is, most of us didn't know what to do with ourselves in the absence of really obvious gifts or ambition. A factory job, a mill job, an office job...whatevs.

    Say what you like about Eric Fromm and his Frankfurt School affiliations, but he, at any rate, like the Early Marx and Veblen, stressed the point about how humans need to be productive in their daily endeavors.

    By “productive” Fromm, Veblen and Marx meant only that we engage in some-what meaningful work. This work didn’t need to be earthshakingly original or daring, just socially useful and personally rewarding. Of course, they recognized that “personally rewarding” varies with the individual’s capacities and their inherent strengths and weaknesses.

    The alternative, Fromm maintained, was a sense of meaninglessness, concomitant anger and destructiveness.

    Additionally, Fromm (from insight derived through years of listening to people air their grievances and gripes) came to understand that people need a meaningful “frame of reference” that lent their lives some transcendental order and sense of rightness. “Transcendental” doesn’t necessarily imply a particular organized religion along with its pantheon of hoary gods but it does imply that people need to feel as though they belong to some larger coherent Gestalt in which their lives unfold, interaction with which gives their lives some sense of purpose and value.

    We see today the dissolution of society’s answer to both of these essential needs and the tragic consequences. Looking at the unemployment rates among both uneducated, young blacks and middle-aged white workers and it becomes obvious that our society is falling apart. Leading unproductive lives results in their feelings of worthlessness and purposelessness. According to their genetic predispositions the one revenges itself by taking out their anger on society (with innocent “random” whites in particular suffering the brutal consequences of their selfish rage) and the other responds through self-destructive behavior. That this should be surprising to any competent social scientist is itself surprising.

    Additionally, the left’s assault on society’s root narratives and myths has deprived people of a transcendent, coherent frame of reference. Their heroes have been slandered and villainised and their cultural icons (statues) have been literally defaced, removed or toppled. Their yearly calendar of religious events has been erased. Memorials to criminal shysters such as MLKing as well as holocaust “museums” defile our sacred public places. The great insights and laws of our Founding Fathers are subjected to “deconstruction” by third-rate minds which have themselves, contributed nothing (comparatively) to the comfort and advancement of the human race. The marvelous inventions (by white men) that have raised the lives of billions of this planet’s people from grinding poverty are reviled as tools of oppression. Everything is topsy turvy as the left rejoices in proclaiming the second coming of a “brown world” and celebrates the elevation to rule of those who, hitherto, have demonstrated no particular talent in conceiving or erecting this mirage-like paradise on Earth–or even a fully functioning democratic, first-world economy.

    What do these reformers have to offer except black-demogogue-preacher-revival-style “hope and change”? Certainly no long-term tangible prospects. Just handouts and the immediate gratification provided by reaction to or against an unresponsive Social Order; neither of which provides a productive life nor a meaningful larger frame of reference.

    • Replies: @Bill
    Outstanding comment.

    The Cultural Marxists are not objectionable because they are stupid or ill-informed. They are objectionable because, once they understood what a civilization needs to survive, they promptly started working to deprive the West of those things. Evil not stupid.

    The magnitude of the disaster and the scope of their victory is awe-inspiring. Our culture is so completely erased that (for example) American politics today is a competition between high-tax Cultural Marxists and the low-tax Cultural Marxists, between the party of Sodom and the party of Mammon. There isn't even a pro-Western-Culture side in the public debate! One side, the low-tax Cultural Marxists, delusionally believes they are on the political right, that they are somehow in favor of the West because, after all, they believe in Are Freedumbs.
    , @Flinders Petrie
    It becomes particularly toxic for whites who lack the ability to put into words what you have eloquently spelled out here, but still innately feel the topsy-turvy nature of the world today. Exacerbating the issue is that they feel inadequate to talk openly about it, for fear of being shamed or losing an argument with someone using words like 'heteronormative'. Then there's the shame associated with not defending yourself.
    , @carol
    Mmm, whatever...they collaborated in the destruction of our industrial base, all the same. Without a qualm, because those jobs were so unappealing to them personally.
    , @AnotherDad
    Outstanding comment Former Liberal.

    People need to be part of something, see their lives, their work as part of something and meaningful. For people without a strong tribal identity, it is being part of a coherent nation--a people, a culture, a tradition. It is precisely that which is being ripped away from European descended peoples.
    , @rvg
    The problem is that the traditional role models are full of holes and have behavior that are unacceptable by even the standards of the 1950s, like for example Washington and Jefferson held slaves, and Jefferson had sex with his underlings under duress, rape rates in the military, in the best case scenario, is about the same as the civilian world, and rape in the military is apparently endemic and systemic in nature, in an institution where discipline is supposed to be paramount, and we also find out the US troops in Europe shot to death half of the German soldiers that surrendered to them in non-mass surrenderings, and that hundreds of German POWs were executed in D-Day according to Max Hastings.
  54. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @rod1963
    Blame it on NAFTA and globalization in general.

    Lower class whites just need to realize the working world is a rotten scam for them nowadays, they need to get on the dole and stay there by hook and crook. It pays better and the bennies are free.

    I just have to look at the cashiers at the local Stater Brothers market, the store keeps them at 28 hours a week so they don't have to pay for any bennies, so then they got to find another part time job to make ends meet. Not easy in a state and country where illeagals are sucking up the jobs.

    Manufacturing jobs either don't exist or the shops are laying off what workers they do have.

    the store keeps them at 28 hours a week so they don’t have to pay for any bennies

    Job prospects for the just average person are really poor and seem to have been sliding downwards. The government is in the hands of the upper classes who consider the masses nothing but a pool of labor, preferably available as cheaply as possible. Not everyone can be an ivy league graduate.
    Alcohol abuse, pill-popping, people dressing slovenly, even obesity are all signs of people having given up and no longer caring about themselves. These are all symptoms of demoralization.

  55. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @AndrewR
    Presumably he would be expelled and arrested.

    I occasionally read Gender Trender. She keeps a running tally of the mayhem. Apparently “transwomen” (I cannot use that odious coinage w/out square quotes) assault women in the exact same percentages as other men do. Which means, not a high percentage, but the point is, a woman is quite right to be on her guard around strange men, even normal nice uncriminal strange men.

    Any man with a daughter, wife, sister, daughter-in-law, would feel unease at the thought of his female relatives being around a “transwoman” in a vulnerable situation. Which is any situation – a woman is at a terrible disadvantage physically against a man.

    So far, most of the cases GT has documented involve trannies who are entrusted with leading groups of vulnerable, messed up teens. This is like letting the fox into the henhouse. These crimes have not gotten a lot of attention because they don’t happen at Horace Mann.

    I say I occasionally read GT – I find her nearly as hard to take as the trannies. She’s crazy too, but in a different way. She moderates comments severely, so I didn’t bother saying this, but it occurred to me that this was the inevitable consequence of 40 years of radical feminism. (In that when you reject male protection, you are exposed to the wolves.) No point in trying to say that – she would never approve my comment. But there are many radfem comments there to the effect of, “why is it only conservatives who understand what we are saying?” They can’t connect the dots. They are very clueless about their own responsibility in this matter.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "So far, most of the cases GT has documented involve trannies who are entrusted with leading groups of vulnerable, messed up teens."

    Given that trannies are themselves deeply messed-up people, entrusting them with leading vulnerable messed up teens is a really bad idea - perhaps concern about that is warranted.
  56. @AndrewR
    Ah yes. Who could ignore the ubiquitous epidemic of MtF transsexuals raping hapless girls in locker rooms? Must be a librul conspiracy!!!

    I hear the transsexual is a black football player, 6′ 4″ tall, who still has a penis (like Caitlyn Jenner) and has decided he is not merely a woman, but a diesel dyke biker. No cute, frilly, pink dresses for this transsexual!

    In fact, it was the triple oppression that he suffered (race + orientation + sex) that made his case so compelling to the Feds and the reason they felt obligated to let him share the hetero white girls’ showers.

    The real oppressors are the racist, sexist, genderist white girls.

    [ok, I made that up]

  57. @WhatEvvs
    Right! But the 13-year old girl that matters is the transgender girl, aching with desire for womanhood...

    transgender girl

    Is that a girl who wants to be/thinks she’s a boy? Or a boy who thinks he is/wants to be a girl? I can never keep that, uhh, straight — and current, uhh, terminology is not really so obvious/clear. I suggest newboy and newgirl, respectively.

  58. I see a lot of people sticking their necks out having a go at trans women here, it’s disgraceful.

    • Replies: @5371
    What are you going to do about it, Carl, clutch your pearls again?
  59. @AndrewR
    Ah yes. Who could ignore the ubiquitous epidemic of MtF transsexuals raping hapless girls in locker rooms? Must be a librul conspiracy!!!

    “Ah yes. Who could ignore the ubiquitous epidemic of MtF transsexuals raping hapless girls in locker rooms? Must be a librul conspiracy!!!”

    Right, and why pay attention to that annoying fire alarm. After all, the house isn’t on fire.

  60. @WhatEvvs
    I occasionally read Gender Trender. She keeps a running tally of the mayhem. Apparently "transwomen" (I cannot use that odious coinage w/out square quotes) assault women in the exact same percentages as other men do. Which means, not a high percentage, but the point is, a woman is quite right to be on her guard around strange men, even normal nice uncriminal strange men.

    Any man with a daughter, wife, sister, daughter-in-law, would feel unease at the thought of his female relatives being around a "transwoman" in a vulnerable situation. Which is any situation - a woman is at a terrible disadvantage physically against a man.

    So far, most of the cases GT has documented involve trannies who are entrusted with leading groups of vulnerable, messed up teens. This is like letting the fox into the henhouse. These crimes have not gotten a lot of attention because they don't happen at Horace Mann.

    I say I occasionally read GT - I find her nearly as hard to take as the trannies. She's crazy too, but in a different way. She moderates comments severely, so I didn't bother saying this, but it occurred to me that this was the inevitable consequence of 40 years of radical feminism. (In that when you reject male protection, you are exposed to the wolves.) No point in trying to say that - she would never approve my comment. But there are many radfem comments there to the effect of, "why is it only conservatives who understand what we are saying?" They can't connect the dots. They are very clueless about their own responsibility in this matter.

    “So far, most of the cases GT has documented involve trannies who are entrusted with leading groups of vulnerable, messed up teens.”

    Given that trannies are themselves deeply messed-up people, entrusting them with leading vulnerable messed up teens is a really bad idea – perhaps concern about that is warranted.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    OK, enough pseudo-sarcasm. I think it's all lunacy, OK? Trannies should be committed into lunatic asylums, and shouldn't be anywhere near screwed up kids.
  61. @5371
    The mathematician was Jewish, the gem cutter - despite his profession - not.

    It’s a new record; all the way down to #31.

  62. @another commenter
    My grandfather's generation put the first man on the moon.
    My Father's generation put he first black man in the whitehouse.
    My generation put the first tranny on the cover of 'Vogue'.

    Causal sequence?

  63. @SFG
    Yeah.

    I do wonder if there is an additional problem in that a lot of the science stuff is done by teams now--did any one person really find those drugs for AIDS? Can anyone (other than Steve, perhaps) tell me who discovered Rituximab?

    There was that dude who landed a rocket on a comet, but he had bad fashion taste.

    “Can anyone (other than Steve, perhaps) tell me who discovered Rituximab?”

    I’m thinking Lee Nadler?

    Anyway, thanks to everybody involved.

  64. @SFG
    Yeah.

    I do wonder if there is an additional problem in that a lot of the science stuff is done by teams now--did any one person really find those drugs for AIDS? Can anyone (other than Steve, perhaps) tell me who discovered Rituximab?

    There was that dude who landed a rocket on a comet, but he had bad fashion taste.

    “There was that dude who landed a rocket on a comet, but he had bad fashion taste.”

    He didn’t actually land a rocket on a comet. The space-craft landed itself on the comet. The dudes in mission control monitored the spacecraft, and “that dude” monitored those dudes.

  65. @Anonymous
    I see a lot of people sticking their necks out having a go at trans women here, it's disgraceful.

    What are you going to do about it, Carl, clutch your pearls again?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    There is no shortage of pearl-clutching among the anti-trans brigade on here.
  66. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    Is throwing blacks off of planes and trains for being rowdy the next big thing?

    https://www.rt.com/usa/320626-black-passengers-racism-lax/

    This is the second such notable incident recently.

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    Perhaps it can only happen in California where high-tech Democratic bundlers operate.
    , @Bill Jones
    Let me rephrase the question for you:

    " Are we throwing rowdy people off trains even if they are black?"
  67. @AndrewR
    Ah yes. Who could ignore the ubiquitous epidemic of MtF transsexuals raping hapless girls in locker rooms? Must be a librul conspiracy!!!

    Ah yes… the ubiquitous epidemic…

    Thanks once again for trying to shame us into accepting a new social norm that has no good end, and to which you will never be held to account when things don’t work out.

    The crusaders and SJWs are anxious to give away our social capital to causes of dubious utility.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I'm definitely not a "crusader" or "SJW." I myself am mildly opposed to letting the transgendered use the opposite sex's locker room. I just think the hysteria over this stuff is over the top. "Dese trannies is gonna rape are preshiss lil girls! Won't someone think o' the wimminz??"

    I mean seriously, who's the crusader? Thank you for demonstrating the horseshoe theory in action.

  68. @AndrewR
    Well without looking it up, I would guess that MtF transsexuals are less likely to be attracted to females than the average male is. Would you rather your son be "ogled" than your daughter?

    Plus, I know it's trendy around these parts to label transgenderism a "perversion", and maybe it is, but I do not think transsexuals are more likely than cis folks to be "perverts" in the colloquial sense: that is, liable to sexually objectify unwilling persons. Most gay males don't ogle other men in locker rooms. Part of it may be self-preservation but I think most of it can be explained by basic human decency.

    Of course some gay males do act inappropriately. When I was about nine years old there was another boy my age who would run around the locker room, fully nude and tumescent, laughing and daring the other boys to see what he had on offer. Some might blame that on his youth but the rest of us boys [or is it "we boys"] were unanimously horrified at his behavior.

    Anyway, my point is that if we're not talking about rape, in which physical size and strength play a role, what does it matter who disrobes with whom? I simply don't think Dani the Tranny is more likely to ogle your daughter than s/he is to ogle your son. And I dont think s/he's more likely to ogle your daughter than a lesbian is. I am open to evidence to the contrary but I have yet to see it.

    Most of these are male autogynephiliacs, not male homosexuals. The diminutive, effeminate Bradley Manning is probably a male homosexual. Bruce Jenner is clearly an autogynephiliac. When I saw the trailer for ‘I Am Cait,’ I actually laughed; it’s not even a well-done contrivance.

    There’s a video out there somewhere of a male tranny blowing up on a street and reverting to Y-chromosomal type quite effortlessly.

  69. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @The most deplorable one
    Is throwing blacks off of planes and trains for being rowdy the next big thing?

    https://www.rt.com/usa/320626-black-passengers-racism-lax/

    This is the second such notable incident recently.

    Perhaps it can only happen in California where high-tech Democratic bundlers operate.

  70. @eah
    Federal education authorities

    Trump could garner more support with a pledge to completely dismantle the Dept of Education in his first term.

    When Jesse Ventura interviewed Trump a few years ago, abolish the Department of Education was Jesse’s recommendation, best left to the States. So wouldn’t be surprised if it isn’t, or will be, a policy.

  71. @bomag
    Ah yes... the ubiquitous epidemic...

    Thanks once again for trying to shame us into accepting a new social norm that has no good end, and to which you will never be held to account when things don't work out.

    The crusaders and SJWs are anxious to give away our social capital to causes of dubious utility.

    I’m definitely not a “crusader” or “SJW.” I myself am mildly opposed to letting the transgendered use the opposite sex’s locker room. I just think the hysteria over this stuff is over the top. “Dese trannies is gonna rape are preshiss lil girls! Won’t someone think o’ the wimminz??”

    I mean seriously, who’s the crusader? Thank you for demonstrating the horseshoe theory in action.

    • Replies: @MC
    “Dese trannies is gonna rape are preshiss lil girls! Won’t someone think o’ the wimminz??”

    Do you have a daughter?

    Setting aside the safety and propriety issues, there is also the intentional infliction of indignity. "Hey Christian bigots, don't like trannies, how about if your daughters had to use the bathroom with them? Bet you wish you could do something about that, but you can't, it's the current year." It's just a much milder version of the conquering hordes raping their enemies' women.
  72. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Mr. Anon
    "So far, most of the cases GT has documented involve trannies who are entrusted with leading groups of vulnerable, messed up teens."

    Given that trannies are themselves deeply messed-up people, entrusting them with leading vulnerable messed up teens is a really bad idea - perhaps concern about that is warranted.

    OK, enough pseudo-sarcasm. I think it’s all lunacy, OK? Trannies should be committed into lunatic asylums, and shouldn’t be anywhere near screwed up kids.

  73. @Mr. Blank
    I am wondering what the spin is going to be when one of these transgender "girls" sexually assaults a female classmate in the girls' locker room. It seems inevitable that it's eventually going to happen.

    A mature adult who has had to struggle with the issue for years is one thing. A transgender person who's willing to pay a significant social cost for being transgender, I can believe. But having once been a heterosexual teenage boy, it seems perfectly plausible to me that a troubled heterosexual teenage boy with a low sexual market value might embrace the chance to go ogle naked girls in the shower just by claiming he "feels like a girl." If he's already a nobody, what's he got to lose by pretending to be even more of a weirdo? From his perspective, there's just very little cost to saying "I'm really a girl" just to get in the girls' locker room.

    I feel like I'm watching a car crash in slow-motion, and we're at the part where we can see the crash is unavoidable but there's no way to step in and stop it from happening.

    I guess when it eventually happens, we'll get some variation of the "well, it would have been just as wrong if it were committed by a cisgender girl" argument. As if the whole episode was just one of those "whaddya gonna do" things that nobody could have possibly foreseen.

    You know society is doomed when you have to expend intellectual energy defending the basic principles that prior generations just took as common sense.

    “I am wondering what the spin is going to be when one of these transgender “girls” sexually assaults a female classmate in the girls’ locker room. It seems inevitable that it’s eventually going to happen.”

    Then they’d say the guy really was a perverted man who was only pretending to be a transgender. And he would have committed a double sin – he would have offended both transgenders and women. Need more money, laws & “education” (i.e. indoctrination and useless work for resentful people with useless degrees) to fix the problem etc etc.

    Here are the rules of the game: Tails, they win. Heads, you lose.

    • Replies: @Bill
    Exactly. Just like when homeless people commit crimes, they are magically transformed into "transients."
  74. @5371
    What are you going to do about it, Carl, clutch your pearls again?

    There is no shortage of pearl-clutching among the anti-trans brigade on here.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    Refusing to indulge the delusions of the mentally ill makes a person "anti-trans" now?
  75. @AndrewR
    Well without looking it up, I would guess that MtF transsexuals are less likely to be attracted to females than the average male is. Would you rather your son be "ogled" than your daughter?

    Plus, I know it's trendy around these parts to label transgenderism a "perversion", and maybe it is, but I do not think transsexuals are more likely than cis folks to be "perverts" in the colloquial sense: that is, liable to sexually objectify unwilling persons. Most gay males don't ogle other men in locker rooms. Part of it may be self-preservation but I think most of it can be explained by basic human decency.

    Of course some gay males do act inappropriately. When I was about nine years old there was another boy my age who would run around the locker room, fully nude and tumescent, laughing and daring the other boys to see what he had on offer. Some might blame that on his youth but the rest of us boys [or is it "we boys"] were unanimously horrified at his behavior.

    Anyway, my point is that if we're not talking about rape, in which physical size and strength play a role, what does it matter who disrobes with whom? I simply don't think Dani the Tranny is more likely to ogle your daughter than s/he is to ogle your son. And I dont think s/he's more likely to ogle your daughter than a lesbian is. I am open to evidence to the contrary but I have yet to see it.

    If it doesn’t really matter who disrobes with whom, then why have separate locker rooms at all?

    In order to have any kind of meaningful separation, you have to have pretty clear cut rules – instead of boys and girls locker room, I suggest that we have the XX and XY locker room. If you don’t feel comfortable in the locker room assigned to your chromosome type, then we’ll give you a private changing room, just like we have separate handicapped bathrooms. You can’t let the tail wag the dog.

    There have always been gays of the same sex in locker rooms, though mostly closeted in the past. Probably the most dangerous combination is adult gay men with boys or adolescents (Hastert, Penn State, etc.). In the past we probably would have been safer with adult women and boys but nowadays female teachers have also shown a willingness to have relationships with boys. Note that in most cases (involving teachers of either gender) these are statutory rape (i.e. consensual but with someone below the age of consent) rather than assault. Our society is schizophrenic – on the one hand we sexualize teens but on the other hand we put them off limits. Either the law has to catch up with contemporary morality or vice versa.

    We are bound and determined to ride the slippery slope all the way down until we hit rock bottom and then someone will hit the “reset” button that won’t be pretty either. That’s just human nature – you would think that people would stop drinking or taking drugs as soon as it begins to affect their well being, but no, people have to keep going until they have lost everything and THEN then go into rehab (or else they die). At this point in our society it’s not clear whether we are going to make it to rehab or not.

  76. @rod1963
    Blame it on NAFTA and globalization in general.

    Lower class whites just need to realize the working world is a rotten scam for them nowadays, they need to get on the dole and stay there by hook and crook. It pays better and the bennies are free.

    I just have to look at the cashiers at the local Stater Brothers market, the store keeps them at 28 hours a week so they don't have to pay for any bennies, so then they got to find another part time job to make ends meet. Not easy in a state and country where illeagals are sucking up the jobs.

    Manufacturing jobs either don't exist or the shops are laying off what workers they do have.

    Blame it on NAFTA and globalization in general.
    Lower class whites just need to realize the working world is a rotten scam for them nowadays, they need to get on the dole and stay there by hook and crook. It pays better and the bennies are free.

    I have been blaming those rotten free trade deals for a long long time. Same ones Donald Trump is campaigning against. Black males have long thought the working world is a scam. Calling those blacks who participated chumps. As in working for chump change. And chump change jobs probably are the only legal jobs in the ghetto. Lord knows there lots of illegal ones such as drug dealing.

    The Hispanic guys are better. Last year I asked one (about 18 years old) at the MacDonald’s drive through, how it was going? How does he like working there?
    His reply was he worked there because he didn’t like anyone giving him things. I bet his father drilled that into him. Where are the black fathers drilling this into black boys?

  77. @JohnnyWalker123

    Dr. Deaton noticed in national data sets that middle-aged whites were committing suicide at an unprecedented rate and that the all-cause mortality in this group was rising. But suicides alone, he and Dr. Case realized, were not enough to push up overall death rates, so they began looking at other causes of death. That led them to the discovery that deaths from drug and alcohol poisoning also increased in this group.

    They concluded that taken together, suicides, drugs and alcohol explained the overall increase in deaths. The effect was largely confined to people with a high school education or less. In that group, death rates rose by 22 percent while they actually fell for those with a college education.
     
    So was Charles Murray correct about the growth of the white underclass?

    Is this real, or are we looking at changing how deaths are clssified?

    • Replies: @Bill
    When you are comparing suicide rates over long time periods (like 1960-present), you worry about the suicide stigma in the early years depressing the count. Medical examiners did not like to say suicide as a manner of death because the stigma would increase the burden on the family. So, they sometimes said accident. But the Deaton/Case research, link here, found the suicide rate rose (a lot) from 2000-2013. The suicide stigma was gone by 2000, so under-counted suicides in the early part of the period probably don't explain this trend.

    I don't immediately see why trends in alcohol poisoning or drug overdoses should be due to mis-classification. Do you have something particular in mind?

    Finally, it's pretty unlikely that trends in all-causes mortality are caused by mis-classification. Corpses are not that hard to count.
  78. The self-extermination of whites via depression and demoralization will continue until morale improves.

  79. @Dave Pinsen
    Isn't raping setting the bar a little high? I would think most parents would object to their daughters being ogled by peeping tom.

    Nothing that a vicious pile-on by NAM girls wouldn’t fix. They give no quarter.

  80. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    We are bound and determined to ride the slippery slope all the way down until we hit rock bottom and then someone will hit the “reset” button that won’t be pretty either. That’s just human nature – you would think that people would stop drinking or taking drugs as soon as it begins to affect their well being, but no, people have to keep going until they have lost everything and THEN then go into rehab (or else they die). At this point in our society it’s not clear whether we are going to make it to rehab or not.

    That’s an interesting analogy. Maybe there’s an insidious link between drugs and pernicious and cultural destructive ideas, both of which have been aggressively peddled to Western culture? Maybe Lyndon Larouche was on to something in his book Drugs, Inc., where he identifies these peddlers and exposes their ultimate goal.

  81. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:

    The NY Times has an evil program that prevents cutting & pasting, but see commenter “Mary” beginning with “this transgender kid is not female…” comment got 565 up votes. There are many skeptical comments and some expressing shock that NY Times commenters, of all people, are not on the program.

    The problem isn’t rape or sexual harassment. The problem is that normal young children are being forced to consume adult insanity.

    #NYTimesrevolt

    • Replies: @res

    The NY Times has an evil program that prevents cutting & pasting
     
    Cut and paste from NYT comments (I tried Mary's in particular) works for me using Chrome.
  82. Oddly the articles do not mention a previous study.

    What’s Killing White Women?

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-05/health-what-s-killing-white-women-

    • Replies: @Robert Hume
    I've expected white womens' death rate to climb as they do less housework and more office work. Working around the house is probably good exercise, sitting in an office is said these days to be bad for you. Another bad effect of women's Lib.
  83. @AndrewR
    There is no shortage of pearl-clutching among the anti-trans brigade on here.

    Refusing to indulge the delusions of the mentally ill makes a person “anti-trans” now?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I don't think transgenderism is inherently a mental illness but it does seem to be highly comorbid with mental disorders. Maybe because so many people are so judgemental towards them.

    I do think that sex reassignment surgery is a sign of severe mental illness. No healthy person mutilates their genitalia like that. But not all trannies are into that.

  84. @International Jew
    Regarding the third of those clips, "Just kill me now".
    Seriously, though, if it's true, it's very worrying. It's what happened in the ex-Soviet Union.

    It is happening, my friend. It is happening. You should not be surprised.

    More to come…

    It will become increasingly difficult for aging European Americans to pay their medical deductible costs in a system that caters to the fastest growing, least productive segments of the population. Black and brown unwed mothers will get all their baby costs and emergency room visits paid for, while retired Smiths and Joneses who worked all their lives will have a hard time coming up with their share of a hernia operation, hip replacement, or dental care.

    Greater and greater numbers of them will see declining real value in their monthly Social Security deposits, forcing them to make tradeoffs for necessities — and in many cases sell their homes in a declining market. (They won’t be able to afford their property taxes in cities that have to pay school personnel to babysit and feed all those brown babies.)

    Their retirment investments or pensions will shrink or disappear as more and more states and municipalities go bust under the weight of supporting those same growing, unproductive groups. Their investment advisors will unwisely have them in a bubble. (Look around, you are in a bubble now. See the colorful soapy colors swirling around? Isn’t it beautiful as the DOW keeps rising…)

    As they say, getting old sucks — but getting old in a declining civilization sucks even more.

    But don’t we all here already know all this?

    • Replies: @bomag
    They won’t be able to afford their property taxes in cities that have to pay school personnel to babysit and feed all those brown babies.

    If they can't afford the taxes, who can?

    Is our new demographic even educable in the classic sense? Are they even capable of productive work in the machine and robot future?

    We have a new model brewing where the one percent is so productive that they support 99% in a "fashion to which they have become accustomed." We'll see how sustainable that is.

  85. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:

    Trump just did a presser at Trump Tower in NYC. I listened to 75%. It’s great. He hasn’t backed down a bit on immigration, the wall, anchor babies, etc. When he was needled that “walls don’t work” he shot back, “look at Israel.” He’s listening to the drumbeats.

    Whatever his flaws, whatever happens, we have to be grateful to him for performing the public service of destroying the taboo against mentioning illegals, anchor babies, and a wall. Without Trump it would be Rubio v. Bush.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    He has made the Republican primary season what it is and will be. We owe it all to him.

    He is the reason Jeb! is on the way out instead of on the way to a party coronation.

    By weakening the MSM/PTB/Open Borders/"Free" Trade candidates, he is even the sole reason a fundraiser's poster boy like Carson has inflated poll numbers. (They come from the weakened main stream pool.)

    He can do the same for the general election season once he's nominated and goes full-time after Mrs. Clinton.

    Will any of this make a difference in our lives? Probably not. We are all screwed already, as you can see elsewhere in this blog. Anyway, a Ryan-led house and Globalist MSM will never let a President Trump accomplish much. The most that can happen is life can get harder and more serious for awhile, as he shuts and cuts whatever open barn doors to trade and immigration and politically-correct domestic policies he can with solely executive powers.

    (Gee...Maybe I won't be able to buy cheap, plastic crap from China anymore. I'd better re-think my political stance!)
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I'm worried about Rubio, though. He's the fallback candidate for the donors, and he doesn't have Jeb's baggage and poor political instincts. I hope Trump can expose him as the totally bought and paid-for Trojan horse that he is.
  86. @Whiskey
    Kolata wrote an excellent book on the 1918 Flu Pandemic, Wiki says she got a Masters in Math from Maryland and studied molecular biology at MIT as a grad student. Her book "Flu: The Story of the Great Influenza Pandemic of 1918 and the Search for the Virus that Caused It" is a pretty good read. I have it in my library. People have forgotten the scale of the pandemic and how it shut down most of the civilized world.

    That the article was written AT ALL says something.

    Particularly given the fantasies. Obama's fantasy that he can actually DO anything at all in the ME without a massive troop presence: Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 all tried and failed, repeatedly, without lots and lots and lots of actual boots on the ground and tanks and planes and missiles and all that. Obama's fantasy that that he can push transgender stuff that appeals to the Kardashian following set without setting up a backlash. The fantasy that the next step from White suicide is White action. Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose is how the song goes, I believe.

    I think we are at the end of the line for Fantasy Island. The Plane is coming and Tattoo is shouting, but there's no Mr. Roarke and the plane isn't carrying passengers, but something else.

    Obama’s fantasy that that he can push transgender stuff that appeals to the Kardashian following set without setting up a backlash. The fantasy that the next step from White suicide is White action.

    Well of course he can ram transgenderism down our collective throats when he has the police and courts enforcing his decrees at gun point or the threat of losing ones job. He doesn’t need to be right, he just needs the ability to bully people.

    That’s what it all boils down to, you really can make fantasies come true, all you need is goons with guns to convince the rest of the people. Of course it’s all legal because some freak in a black dress says so.

    Problem is if the tyrant and his goons push the people into a corner with nothing left to lose they’ll fight back and hard.

  87. @neutral
    I am a sucker for punishment, can you direct me to the most left leaning publication in the US.

    Jezebel

    You’re welcome.

  88. If Fred wakes up tomorrow and thinks he’s Napoleon, they’ll give him psychotropic drugs to bring his delusions back into line with reality.
    If Fred wakes up tomorrow and thinks he’s Josephine they’ll give him hormones and surgery to bring his”reality” into line with his delusions.

    Wake me up when they can change chromosomes.

    Until then it’s mental illness

    The lunatics who were released when Reagan emptied the asylums are now running the system.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    It was not Reagan who emptied the asylums. It was the courts deciding that mental illness was just a lifestyle choice. The states were only too happy to shut down their mental hospital, because at one point, 1/3 of all beds were occupied by mental patients. And of course the planned community centers, where these poor souls could come get their meds, never materialized.

    So was the homeless industry born. It is big business and a good club to beat the Rs with.
  89. @International Jew
    Regarding the third of those clips, "Just kill me now".
    Seriously, though, if it's true, it's very worrying. It's what happened in the ex-Soviet Union.

    French star sociologist Emmanuel Todd noticed in the early 70s that the life expectancy of the average Soviet citizen had decreased. He surmised that it was because the communist system had become so dysfunctional that even hospitals didn’t work properly anymore. He predicted that the USSR would collapse 20 years later, and that’s exactly what happened.

    Is the USA becoming dysfunctional, too, and doomed to collapse somewhere around 2035? It’s a possibility.

    I think that the collapse of the USA will be more brutal than the collapse of the USSR. Communism had ruined the Russian economy, turned everything into a badly run public service, but had left the nations of the old Russian Empire basically intact: Russians, Ukrainians, Estonians, Central Asians, etc., still existed as nations, with their distinct languages and cultures, living in relatively homogenous territories.

    When the cops stop showing up for work because they won’t be paid anymore, it’s important to live in a homogenous area with people like yourselves, and even better if everyone, yourself included, is everyone else’s cousin in your local area.

    The Soviet people used to rely on their private gardens for food. It helped them a lot when the distribution circuits became erratic. As Dimitri Orlov has explained, the USA doesn’t have the traits which enabled the former Soviet nations to survive the collapse of the USSR.

    Around 2035, it may be better to live in Vermont (if the Vermont of 2035 still looks like the Vermont of 2015) than in Southern California or New-York.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Communism could not destroy a nation as effectively as the multicultural insanity will do.
  90. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    http://news.yahoo.com/almost-220-000-migrants-record-reached-europe-sea-122146527.html

    Stupid Persians. They came as an attacking navy, and brave Athenians defeated them.

    Smart Arabs and Africans. They come as poor pitiful ‘refugees’, and the EU cannot stem the invasion because it wants to be a moral superpower with ethical hubris.

    Hubris always leads to ruin.

    Hitler has racial and military hubris.

    Communists had historical hubris: “history is on our side”.

    EU has moral hubris. “New European Values shall save the world.”

    For any nation to believe that it has a mission to save the world is hubris. It is a kind of moral imperialism that only ends up destroying the world. EU hubris will only destroy Europe and make Africa/Arab world worse. Europe will fill up with boneheads with boners and Africans/Arabs/Muslims will never fix their own problems and just seek escape to Europe.

    Just as no nation should try to conquer the world, no nation should save the world. A nation is supposed to take care of itself and have good mutualist relations with other nations. Each nation elects its leaders to serve the nation, not the world, not the US globalist imperium.

    At least Eva Green was spectacular and beautiful in 300 RISE OF AN EMPIRE.
    Merkel bitch is a traitor who is ugly and vile. She looks like a female East German athletes. She seems to be have been injected with PC-roids.

    Remember the movie THE BLOB?
    The Globo GLOB will turn the world into shit and slime.

  91. @WhatEvvs
    The NY Times has an evil program that prevents cutting & pasting, but see commenter "Mary" beginning with "this transgender kid is not female..." comment got 565 up votes. There are many skeptical comments and some expressing shock that NY Times commenters, of all people, are not on the program.

    The problem isn't rape or sexual harassment. The problem is that normal young children are being forced to consume adult insanity.

    #NYTimesrevolt

    The NY Times has an evil program that prevents cutting & pasting

    Cut and paste from NYT comments (I tried Mary’s in particular) works for me using Chrome.

  92. @WhatEvvs
    Trump just did a presser at Trump Tower in NYC. I listened to 75%. It's great. He hasn't backed down a bit on immigration, the wall, anchor babies, etc. When he was needled that "walls don't work" he shot back, "look at Israel." He's listening to the drumbeats.

    Whatever his flaws, whatever happens, we have to be grateful to him for performing the public service of destroying the taboo against mentioning illegals, anchor babies, and a wall. Without Trump it would be Rubio v. Bush.

    He has made the Republican primary season what it is and will be. We owe it all to him.

    He is the reason Jeb! is on the way out instead of on the way to a party coronation.

    By weakening the MSM/PTB/Open Borders/”Free” Trade candidates, he is even the sole reason a fundraiser’s poster boy like Carson has inflated poll numbers. (They come from the weakened main stream pool.)

    He can do the same for the general election season once he’s nominated and goes full-time after Mrs. Clinton.

    Will any of this make a difference in our lives? Probably not. We are all screwed already, as you can see elsewhere in this blog. Anyway, a Ryan-led house and Globalist MSM will never let a President Trump accomplish much. The most that can happen is life can get harder and more serious for awhile, as he shuts and cuts whatever open barn doors to trade and immigration and politically-correct domestic policies he can with solely executive powers.

    (Gee…Maybe I won’t be able to buy cheap, plastic crap from China anymore. I’d better re-think my political stance!)

    • Agree: Hubbub
  93. @The most deplorable one
    Is throwing blacks off of planes and trains for being rowdy the next big thing?

    https://www.rt.com/usa/320626-black-passengers-racism-lax/

    This is the second such notable incident recently.

    Let me rephrase the question for you:

    ” Are we throwing rowdy people off trains even if they are black?”

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Bill Jones, A couple of years ago two black males screamed discrimination when they were denied seating in First Class because they were wearing blue jeans. They claimed that white passengers in First Class were wearing jeans. They failed to mention that they were flying on what the trade calls "Buddy Passes." Buddy passes are passes given by airline employees to family and friends, they also come with a laundry list of restrictions and rules. Among them is that Buddy passengers in First Class are required to wear business attire, i.e.. shirt and tie, jacket and dress slacks. Hardly a hardship for the pleasure of sitting in First Class. It took a few weeks before the whole story came out, this seems to be the same type of situation.
  94. I would have home schooled my daughter before I allowed her to share a locker room with a male – whether he wanted to ogle or rape is irrelevant. I would not have wanted her to see him. Mine are out of high school but if enough parents feel this way, this should kill the public schools and that is the silver lining here, I hope. I would like to know where the federal equality commissars who came up with this send their own daughters to school – private or public?

  95. @anon
    Took husband's surname. Maiden name is Bari.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Kolata

    [Gina Kolata] Took husband’s surname. Maiden name is Bari.

    Gene Barry is a tranny?

  96. @Anonymous

    I think we are at the end of the line for Fantasy Island. The Plane is coming and Tattoo is shouting, but there’s no Mr. Roarke and the plane isn’t carrying passengers, but something else.
     
    What does this mean? Is Fantasy Island the U.S.? What's with empty plane? Maybe the plane crashed into Fantasy Island because it is weighted down with Third-World stowaways?

    What does this mean? Is Fantasy Island the U.S.? What’s with empty plane?

    The difference between Fantasy Island and contemporary America is that Mr Roarke wasn’t running a cargo cult.

  97. @Chris Mallory
    Refusing to indulge the delusions of the mentally ill makes a person "anti-trans" now?

    I don’t think transgenderism is inherently a mental illness but it does seem to be highly comorbid with mental disorders. Maybe because so many people are so judgemental towards them.

    I do think that sex reassignment surgery is a sign of severe mental illness. No healthy person mutilates their genitalia like that. But not all trannies are into that.

  98. @AndrewR
    Well without looking it up, I would guess that MtF transsexuals are less likely to be attracted to females than the average male is. Would you rather your son be "ogled" than your daughter?

    Plus, I know it's trendy around these parts to label transgenderism a "perversion", and maybe it is, but I do not think transsexuals are more likely than cis folks to be "perverts" in the colloquial sense: that is, liable to sexually objectify unwilling persons. Most gay males don't ogle other men in locker rooms. Part of it may be self-preservation but I think most of it can be explained by basic human decency.

    Of course some gay males do act inappropriately. When I was about nine years old there was another boy my age who would run around the locker room, fully nude and tumescent, laughing and daring the other boys to see what he had on offer. Some might blame that on his youth but the rest of us boys [or is it "we boys"] were unanimously horrified at his behavior.

    Anyway, my point is that if we're not talking about rape, in which physical size and strength play a role, what does it matter who disrobes with whom? I simply don't think Dani the Tranny is more likely to ogle your daughter than s/he is to ogle your son. And I dont think s/he's more likely to ogle your daughter than a lesbian is. I am open to evidence to the contrary but I have yet to see it.

    Most gay males don’t ogle other men in locker rooms

    Most straight men don’t ogle women in locker rooms– because they’re not permitted in those locker rooms at all, and would be promptly arrested should they enter them at all.

    Our discomfort at homophiles in our locker rooms isn’t bigotry. It’s simple reciprocity.

  99. @Anon
    I am amazed that there isn't a revolution over the transgender thing. Usually families care a lot about protecting their teen daughters and this screams risk. Are people drugged to the gills?

    This particular thing is trivia, but it will get worse. Next will be lowering the age of consent and then a relaxation of the taboo (is it even a taboo any more?) against teacher-student contact. When your teenaged son’s gay gym teacher nails him, not only will it be legal and not only will he not lose his job, but it will be none of your business and you will be publicly shamed if you object. That won’t be trivia because it won’t be rare. It already isn’t rare–the teachers nailing students part. I give this scenario twenty years to become common, maybe thirty.

    They won’t make home schooling illegal, though. The gym teachers will be content only preying on the sons whose parents don’t give a crap about them. That will be most of them, and most of them is good enough. This way, there won’t be any real resistance. The minority of the population who actually care about their children will have an out; they will take the out; and they will not become radicalized.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    Don't know about the possibilities of your scenario, but do get the whole degradation of public morals. As a "gym" teacher myself, I don't see the gay male teacher preying on the sons, as I can't believe there are many gay PE teachers. Lesbian PE teachers preying on the daughters, yes, that is very possible.
  100. @AndrewR
    Ah yes. Who could ignore the ubiquitous epidemic of MtF transsexuals raping hapless girls in locker rooms? Must be a librul conspiracy!!!

    Thanks for stopping by, Dr Caplan.

  101. @NOTA
    Is this real, or are we looking at changing how deaths are clssified?

    When you are comparing suicide rates over long time periods (like 1960-present), you worry about the suicide stigma in the early years depressing the count. Medical examiners did not like to say suicide as a manner of death because the stigma would increase the burden on the family. So, they sometimes said accident. But the Deaton/Case research, link here, found the suicide rate rose (a lot) from 2000-2013. The suicide stigma was gone by 2000, so under-counted suicides in the early part of the period probably don’t explain this trend.

    I don’t immediately see why trends in alcohol poisoning or drug overdoses should be due to mis-classification. Do you have something particular in mind?

    Finally, it’s pretty unlikely that trends in all-causes mortality are caused by mis-classification. Corpses are not that hard to count.

  102. @AndrewR
    I'm definitely not a "crusader" or "SJW." I myself am mildly opposed to letting the transgendered use the opposite sex's locker room. I just think the hysteria over this stuff is over the top. "Dese trannies is gonna rape are preshiss lil girls! Won't someone think o' the wimminz??"

    I mean seriously, who's the crusader? Thank you for demonstrating the horseshoe theory in action.

    “Dese trannies is gonna rape are preshiss lil girls! Won’t someone think o’ the wimminz??”

    Do you have a daughter?

    Setting aside the safety and propriety issues, there is also the intentional infliction of indignity. “Hey Christian bigots, don’t like trannies, how about if your daughters had to use the bathroom with them? Bet you wish you could do something about that, but you can’t, it’s the current year.” It’s just a much milder version of the conquering hordes raping their enemies’ women.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I don't but I do have female relatives and also a functioning frontal lobe which can allow me to put myself in other people's shoes and debate the morality of an action.

    I'm not going to repeat everything I said in my prior comment which you kind of brushed off. I will add though that schools are not going to let any boy just say he's a girl and then start using the girl's locker room the next day.

    And sorry I don't feel a lot of sympathy for Christian culture warriors... if that's you I'm sorry
  103. @anonymous
    There are way too many people in the US government who are trained as lawyers. Reality ends up being webs of words.

    Too many like-minded people who spent their education sitting around tables playing web-of-word games.

    Too many people in the media-government complex endlessly mass-producing webs of words.

    After awhile these people may are probably too confused to deal with the modern world. Dealing with fiction -- nice webs-of-words that always work out in an emotionally satisfying way -- is so much more attractive.

    Too many like-minded people who spent their education sitting around tables playing web-of-word games.

    What is a “web-of-word” game?

  104. @Threecranes
    Say what you like about Eric Fromm and his Frankfurt School affiliations, but he, at any rate, like the Early Marx and Veblen, stressed the point about how humans need to be productive in their daily endeavors.

    By "productive" Fromm, Veblen and Marx meant only that we engage in some-what meaningful work. This work didn't need to be earthshakingly original or daring, just socially useful and personally rewarding. Of course, they recognized that "personally rewarding" varies with the individual's capacities and their inherent strengths and weaknesses.

    The alternative, Fromm maintained, was a sense of meaninglessness, concomitant anger and destructiveness.

    Additionally, Fromm (from insight derived through years of listening to people air their grievances and gripes) came to understand that people need a meaningful "frame of reference" that lent their lives some transcendental order and sense of rightness. "Transcendental" doesn't necessarily imply a particular organized religion along with its pantheon of hoary gods but it does imply that people need to feel as though they belong to some larger coherent Gestalt in which their lives unfold, interaction with which gives their lives some sense of purpose and value.

    We see today the dissolution of society's answer to both of these essential needs and the tragic consequences. Looking at the unemployment rates among both uneducated, young blacks and middle-aged white workers and it becomes obvious that our society is falling apart. Leading unproductive lives results in their feelings of worthlessness and purposelessness. According to their genetic predispositions the one revenges itself by taking out their anger on society (with innocent "random" whites in particular suffering the brutal consequences of their selfish rage) and the other responds through self-destructive behavior. That this should be surprising to any competent social scientist is itself surprising.

    Additionally, the left's assault on society's root narratives and myths has deprived people of a transcendent, coherent frame of reference. Their heroes have been slandered and villainised and their cultural icons (statues) have been literally defaced, removed or toppled. Their yearly calendar of religious events has been erased. Memorials to criminal shysters such as MLKing as well as holocaust "museums" defile our sacred public places. The great insights and laws of our Founding Fathers are subjected to "deconstruction" by third-rate minds which have themselves, contributed nothing (comparatively) to the comfort and advancement of the human race. The marvelous inventions (by white men) that have raised the lives of billions of this planet's people from grinding poverty are reviled as tools of oppression. Everything is topsy turvy as the left rejoices in proclaiming the second coming of a "brown world" and celebrates the elevation to rule of those who, hitherto, have demonstrated no particular talent in conceiving or erecting this mirage-like paradise on Earth--or even a fully functioning democratic, first-world economy.

    What do these reformers have to offer except black-demogogue-preacher-revival-style "hope and change"? Certainly no long-term tangible prospects. Just handouts and the immediate gratification provided by reaction to or against an unresponsive Social Order; neither of which provides a productive life nor a meaningful larger frame of reference.

    Outstanding comment.

    The Cultural Marxists are not objectionable because they are stupid or ill-informed. They are objectionable because, once they understood what a civilization needs to survive, they promptly started working to deprive the West of those things. Evil not stupid.

    The magnitude of the disaster and the scope of their victory is awe-inspiring. Our culture is so completely erased that (for example) American politics today is a competition between high-tax Cultural Marxists and the low-tax Cultural Marxists, between the party of Sodom and the party of Mammon. There isn’t even a pro-Western-Culture side in the public debate! One side, the low-tax Cultural Marxists, delusionally believes they are on the political right, that they are somehow in favor of the West because, after all, they believe in Are Freedumbs.

  105. @jimbojones
    "I am wondering what the spin is going to be when one of these transgender “girls” sexually assaults a female classmate in the girls’ locker room. It seems inevitable that it’s eventually going to happen."

    Then they'd say the guy really was a perverted man who was only pretending to be a transgender. And he would have committed a double sin - he would have offended both transgenders and women. Need more money, laws & "education" (i.e. indoctrination and useless work for resentful people with useless degrees) to fix the problem etc etc.

    Here are the rules of the game: Tails, they win. Heads, you lose.

    Exactly. Just like when homeless people commit crimes, they are magically transformed into “transients.”

  106. In the locker room, the beatdown if caught ogling isn’t worth the trouble.

    Gay men ogle desirable YOUNG men and have been known to offer, ah, oral pleasure, at the drop of a zipper. I was at a friend’s restaurant bar and heard a middle-aged queen make that very offer to the lovely bartender’s handsome young boyfriend, whom he’d never met before in his life.

    They’re gay, but they’re still men.

  107. @Threecranes
    Say what you like about Eric Fromm and his Frankfurt School affiliations, but he, at any rate, like the Early Marx and Veblen, stressed the point about how humans need to be productive in their daily endeavors.

    By "productive" Fromm, Veblen and Marx meant only that we engage in some-what meaningful work. This work didn't need to be earthshakingly original or daring, just socially useful and personally rewarding. Of course, they recognized that "personally rewarding" varies with the individual's capacities and their inherent strengths and weaknesses.

    The alternative, Fromm maintained, was a sense of meaninglessness, concomitant anger and destructiveness.

    Additionally, Fromm (from insight derived through years of listening to people air their grievances and gripes) came to understand that people need a meaningful "frame of reference" that lent their lives some transcendental order and sense of rightness. "Transcendental" doesn't necessarily imply a particular organized religion along with its pantheon of hoary gods but it does imply that people need to feel as though they belong to some larger coherent Gestalt in which their lives unfold, interaction with which gives their lives some sense of purpose and value.

    We see today the dissolution of society's answer to both of these essential needs and the tragic consequences. Looking at the unemployment rates among both uneducated, young blacks and middle-aged white workers and it becomes obvious that our society is falling apart. Leading unproductive lives results in their feelings of worthlessness and purposelessness. According to their genetic predispositions the one revenges itself by taking out their anger on society (with innocent "random" whites in particular suffering the brutal consequences of their selfish rage) and the other responds through self-destructive behavior. That this should be surprising to any competent social scientist is itself surprising.

    Additionally, the left's assault on society's root narratives and myths has deprived people of a transcendent, coherent frame of reference. Their heroes have been slandered and villainised and their cultural icons (statues) have been literally defaced, removed or toppled. Their yearly calendar of religious events has been erased. Memorials to criminal shysters such as MLKing as well as holocaust "museums" defile our sacred public places. The great insights and laws of our Founding Fathers are subjected to "deconstruction" by third-rate minds which have themselves, contributed nothing (comparatively) to the comfort and advancement of the human race. The marvelous inventions (by white men) that have raised the lives of billions of this planet's people from grinding poverty are reviled as tools of oppression. Everything is topsy turvy as the left rejoices in proclaiming the second coming of a "brown world" and celebrates the elevation to rule of those who, hitherto, have demonstrated no particular talent in conceiving or erecting this mirage-like paradise on Earth--or even a fully functioning democratic, first-world economy.

    What do these reformers have to offer except black-demogogue-preacher-revival-style "hope and change"? Certainly no long-term tangible prospects. Just handouts and the immediate gratification provided by reaction to or against an unresponsive Social Order; neither of which provides a productive life nor a meaningful larger frame of reference.

    It becomes particularly toxic for whites who lack the ability to put into words what you have eloquently spelled out here, but still innately feel the topsy-turvy nature of the world today. Exacerbating the issue is that they feel inadequate to talk openly about it, for fear of being shamed or losing an argument with someone using words like ‘heteronormative’. Then there’s the shame associated with not defending yourself.

    • Agree: Drake
  108. @George
    Oddly the articles do not mention a previous study.

    What's Killing White Women?

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-05/health-what-s-killing-white-women-

    I’ve expected white womens’ death rate to climb as they do less housework and more office work. Working around the house is probably good exercise, sitting in an office is said these days to be bad for you. Another bad effect of women’s Lib.

  109. @AndrewR
    Well without looking it up, I would guess that MtF transsexuals are less likely to be attracted to females than the average male is. Would you rather your son be "ogled" than your daughter?

    Plus, I know it's trendy around these parts to label transgenderism a "perversion", and maybe it is, but I do not think transsexuals are more likely than cis folks to be "perverts" in the colloquial sense: that is, liable to sexually objectify unwilling persons. Most gay males don't ogle other men in locker rooms. Part of it may be self-preservation but I think most of it can be explained by basic human decency.

    Of course some gay males do act inappropriately. When I was about nine years old there was another boy my age who would run around the locker room, fully nude and tumescent, laughing and daring the other boys to see what he had on offer. Some might blame that on his youth but the rest of us boys [or is it "we boys"] were unanimously horrified at his behavior.

    Anyway, my point is that if we're not talking about rape, in which physical size and strength play a role, what does it matter who disrobes with whom? I simply don't think Dani the Tranny is more likely to ogle your daughter than s/he is to ogle your son. And I dont think s/he's more likely to ogle your daughter than a lesbian is. I am open to evidence to the contrary but I have yet to see it.

    “but I do not think transsexuals are more likely than normal folks to be “perverts””

    You misspelled normal. FIFY.

  110. Starpoint School District ,Pendleton, NY got local press in September when they announced that students could determine what pronouns to use when addressing them . The also announced that they were planning unisex or curtained off locker room areas for students who were struggling with their gender identity. The thing that really stood out was that Starpoint was going to keep a separate folder than the Birth Record Folder for these students. The thing that left me speechless was that under the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act, the school district can not notify the parents as to the child’s chosen gender identity. What?

  111. @AndrewR
    Presumably he would be expelled and arrested.

    Not a chance–the little insane thug would probably get on a magazine cover…

  112. @AndrewR
    Ah yes. Who could ignore the ubiquitous epidemic of MtF transsexuals raping hapless girls in locker rooms? Must be a librul conspiracy!!!

    Anon said, “this screams risk.” He did not say or imply that there is a “ubiquitous epidemic” of transsexuals raping girls in locker rooms. You are trying to make us normal people look like the hysterical, crazy ones. We are not the ones who are indulging the trannies’ delusions by letting them use the women’s bathroom and pretending that we think that they are really women.

    Why is the burden always on normal people? I don’t want tranny perverts in bathrooms or locker rooms with my daughters even if there is no “ubiquitous epidemic.” It’s not like I am asking society for some unusual or burdensome accommodation. The trannies and their SJW pals are, though. They are the ones who are acting as if letting deranged men pee in the women’s bathrooms is the moral equivalent of ending slavery.

    Look. Maybe the trannies are harmless but I’m not going to give them the benefit of the doubt. Considering that they are crazy enough to cut off their genitals or at least dream of doing so, it stands to reason that they are likely crazy enough to be a threat to women.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    If you were really intent on stopping the transgender blitzkrieg, you wouldn't be using such an inflammatory language about them. That's just going to piss them off more and alienate people on the fence from you. But like any ideologue, you value the way your rhetoric makes you feel more than the results it actually achieves.
  113. Have you seen the latest Syrian insanity? The US is sending dogfighters with zero ground attack capability to a conflict zone where the only other aircraft are Russian:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/03/u-s-brings-dogfighters-to-counter-russians-over-syria.html

    Maybe we have all seriously underestimated Obama’s ambition? Perhaps he yearns to be the President who goes into History as having started WWIII. You know … If one wanted to erase whites from the earth, instigating America and Russia into nuclear war while Europe is overwhelmed with Arabs and Africans would be a pretty effective way to do it.

  114. @neutral
    I remember reading a story where Greece also has an ever increasing suicide rate. Things are really bleak there and there does not seem to be a future for many Greeks. However if you are going to contemplate suicide then at least do something constructive first, throwing rotten tomatoes at the corrupt politicians for example. Ending ones life in the end rewards the people that have made Greece a mess, I am sure the same applies to America.

    However if you are going to contemplate suicide then at least do something constructive first, throwing rotten tomatoes at the corrupt politicians for example.

    That line of thinking would result in people either choosing to off themselves in attention-attracting ways, like setting themselves on fire in public venues, or taking the Palestinian Option.

    Besides, the people are killing themselves precisely because they’ve given up on doing ‘constructive’ things. I can’t blame them. There’s no place to emigrate to, no way to escape. When the least unfree nation becomes intolerable, there’s no alternative.

  115. It seems to me that for a whole bunch of reasons, the backbone of this country has been the vast percentage of this country that was white and not too far from average.

    What’s going to happen when America’s vast percentage of white middle class and working class people are no longer a majority, can no longer afford to pay a majority of the taxes, no longer can be counted on to contribute the hours and money to local charities that they once did?

    The problem isn’t just that whites are becoming a minority, it’s that they are finally finding themselves being affected and dragged down by the some of the same things that have affected other groups for years. Being white and not a screwup isn’t enough to guarantee a living wage job anymore. Being white and not a screwup isn’t enough to keep social problems like addiction and children who don’t know their fathers, etc. away from most white families door anymore.

    I expect that the crime rate for whites will creep up and that we may see that whites start operating gangs or joining those of other groups in significant numbers.

    We’ll see lots more whites with chronic problems, low incomes, etc. needing help instead of providing it. As a result, America will have a much higher percentage of needy people and a much lower percentage of workers who are net tax contributors.

    As a group, it seems inevitable that whites will start to lose many of their distinctive positive traits and advantages in our society and become more like the various minority groups who historically have not done so well in our country.

    I don’t think anybody’s thinking about this or prepared for it.

    It’s all a recipe for disaster.

  116. @JohnnyWalker123

    Dr. Deaton noticed in national data sets that middle-aged whites were committing suicide at an unprecedented rate and that the all-cause mortality in this group was rising. But suicides alone, he and Dr. Case realized, were not enough to push up overall death rates, so they began looking at other causes of death. That led them to the discovery that deaths from drug and alcohol poisoning also increased in this group.

    They concluded that taken together, suicides, drugs and alcohol explained the overall increase in deaths. The effect was largely confined to people with a high school education or less. In that group, death rates rose by 22 percent while they actually fell for those with a college education.
     
    So was Charles Murray correct about the growth of the white underclass?

    Dr. Deaton should do an update after assisted suicide becomes legal nationwide.

  117. Isn’t raping setting the bar a little high? I would think most parents would object to their daughters being ogled by peeping tom.

    And as long as Tom isn’t wearing a skirt, they have a case to make.

    Plus, I know it’s trendy around these parts to label transgenderism a “perversion”, and maybe it is, but I do not think transsexuals are more likely than cis folks to be “perverts” in the colloquial sense: that is, liable to sexually objectify unwilling persons.

    You think you can just do whatever you want with words, don’t you.

    It isn’t working. At all.

  118. @AndrewR
    Well without looking it up, I would guess that MtF transsexuals are less likely to be attracted to females than the average male is. Would you rather your son be "ogled" than your daughter?

    Plus, I know it's trendy around these parts to label transgenderism a "perversion", and maybe it is, but I do not think transsexuals are more likely than cis folks to be "perverts" in the colloquial sense: that is, liable to sexually objectify unwilling persons. Most gay males don't ogle other men in locker rooms. Part of it may be self-preservation but I think most of it can be explained by basic human decency.

    Of course some gay males do act inappropriately. When I was about nine years old there was another boy my age who would run around the locker room, fully nude and tumescent, laughing and daring the other boys to see what he had on offer. Some might blame that on his youth but the rest of us boys [or is it "we boys"] were unanimously horrified at his behavior.

    Anyway, my point is that if we're not talking about rape, in which physical size and strength play a role, what does it matter who disrobes with whom? I simply don't think Dani the Tranny is more likely to ogle your daughter than s/he is to ogle your son. And I dont think s/he's more likely to ogle your daughter than a lesbian is. I am open to evidence to the contrary but I have yet to see it.

    “Most gay males don’t ogle other men in locker rooms.”

    (citation needed)

  119. @Anon
    I am amazed that there isn't a revolution over the transgender thing. Usually families care a lot about protecting their teen daughters and this screams risk. Are people drugged to the gills?

    I am amazed that there isn’t a revolution over the transgender thing.

    People simply lack a “vocabulary” to express traditionalist sentiments anymore.

    It’s akin to the Martin Niemöller poem. People didn’t resist sufficiently when the left trashed this or that traditional distinction because it was “unfair” or “mean” or whatever. Now as the agenda gets even loonier, ordinary people simply lack a coherent way to stand up for even the remaining distinctions, are used to being steamrolled on such things and are *afraid* of being singled out and abused.

    Really, once you let these folks assert that homosexuality is just as good as–if not better!–than normal sexuality … you’re cooked! You no longer have any meaningful distinctions to defend. You no longer have a functioning civilization looking after it’s future. The rest of it is trivial.

    • Replies: @Mr. Blank
    I think part of it is also that none of this is ever presented to the public to get their input — and that's by design.

    Ask yourself: When did Americans vote to allow boys into girls' locker rooms? You might say "when we elected Obama," but was this ever raised as a campaign issue back in 2008? Was Obama ever asked about this during a debate or an interview? Was it on Obama's website? Did the Obama campaign ever issue any statements, brochures, or policy papers where they prominently announced their intention to use the power of the federal government to compel schools to adopt this silly idea?

    No. One day it was just announced that this is how it's going to be. The public was never consulted on the matter.

    If folks on the right were pushing a similarly nutty proposal, you can bet every prominent Republican would be asked about it. But Democrats always get a pass on the wacky, unpopular ideas on the left.
  120. @Bill Jones
    Let me rephrase the question for you:

    " Are we throwing rowdy people off trains even if they are black?"

    Bill Jones, A couple of years ago two black males screamed discrimination when they were denied seating in First Class because they were wearing blue jeans. They claimed that white passengers in First Class were wearing jeans. They failed to mention that they were flying on what the trade calls “Buddy Passes.” Buddy passes are passes given by airline employees to family and friends, they also come with a laundry list of restrictions and rules. Among them is that Buddy passengers in First Class are required to wear business attire, i.e.. shirt and tie, jacket and dress slacks. Hardly a hardship for the pleasure of sitting in First Class. It took a few weeks before the whole story came out, this seems to be the same type of situation.

  121. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Skin Deep: Does Anyone Own the Cornrow?

    Andrea Arterbery writes that she isn’t sure that the annoyance she feels when she sees cornrows on white women will ever disappear.

    There’s no way to sugarcoat this: I always experience a flash of annoyance when I see white girls wearing cornrows. Maybe it’s because the hairstyle is being marketed as “new and trendy.” Or it could be that I, as a black woman, know it’s not a style white girls wore when I was growing up, and that they often mocked me for wearing it.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/05/fashion/does-anyone-own-the-cornrow.html

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    I didn't care for it on Bo Derek in "10."
    , @Threecranes
    Stop complaining already. And if you desire to be accepted by intelligent people, drop the shallow Marcusian cultural Marxism with its unsubstantiated, bogus notion of "cultural appropriation". After all, as the old saying goes: "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

    In other words they like and admire you, so your rejection of them comes off as sneering disdain for an over-eager fan i.e. you have managed to invert the accepted narrative of who plays which role in our nation's Master/Slave morality play. If no one pays attention to you then you're the poor unfortunate because no one cares enough to notice you. If, on the other hand, they honor you through imitation you're the victim because "appropriation". So congratulations, either way you win. You're just being manipulative; with this strategy you may win battles, but you won't win the war.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Sailer's Law, yeah, sure, and of course black women wearing weaves so that they can shed the nappy look and style their hair like white girls. Corn rows for me, but not for thee, perpetual grievances.
  122. @AnotherDad

    I am amazed that there isn’t a revolution over the transgender thing.
     
    People simply lack a "vocabulary" to express traditionalist sentiments anymore.

    It's akin to the Martin Niemöller poem. People didn't resist sufficiently when the left trashed this or that traditional distinction because it was "unfair" or "mean" or whatever. Now as the agenda gets even loonier, ordinary people simply lack a coherent way to stand up for even the remaining distinctions, are used to being steamrolled on such things and are *afraid* of being singled out and abused.

    Really, once you let these folks assert that homosexuality is just as good as--if not better!--than normal sexuality ... you're cooked! You no longer have any meaningful distinctions to defend. You no longer have a functioning civilization looking after it's future. The rest of it is trivial.

    I think part of it is also that none of this is ever presented to the public to get their input — and that’s by design.

    Ask yourself: When did Americans vote to allow boys into girls’ locker rooms? You might say “when we elected Obama,” but was this ever raised as a campaign issue back in 2008? Was Obama ever asked about this during a debate or an interview? Was it on Obama’s website? Did the Obama campaign ever issue any statements, brochures, or policy papers where they prominently announced their intention to use the power of the federal government to compel schools to adopt this silly idea?

    No. One day it was just announced that this is how it’s going to be. The public was never consulted on the matter.

    If folks on the right were pushing a similarly nutty proposal, you can bet every prominent Republican would be asked about it. But Democrats always get a pass on the wacky, unpopular ideas on the left.

  123. @Threecranes
    Say what you like about Eric Fromm and his Frankfurt School affiliations, but he, at any rate, like the Early Marx and Veblen, stressed the point about how humans need to be productive in their daily endeavors.

    By "productive" Fromm, Veblen and Marx meant only that we engage in some-what meaningful work. This work didn't need to be earthshakingly original or daring, just socially useful and personally rewarding. Of course, they recognized that "personally rewarding" varies with the individual's capacities and their inherent strengths and weaknesses.

    The alternative, Fromm maintained, was a sense of meaninglessness, concomitant anger and destructiveness.

    Additionally, Fromm (from insight derived through years of listening to people air their grievances and gripes) came to understand that people need a meaningful "frame of reference" that lent their lives some transcendental order and sense of rightness. "Transcendental" doesn't necessarily imply a particular organized religion along with its pantheon of hoary gods but it does imply that people need to feel as though they belong to some larger coherent Gestalt in which their lives unfold, interaction with which gives their lives some sense of purpose and value.

    We see today the dissolution of society's answer to both of these essential needs and the tragic consequences. Looking at the unemployment rates among both uneducated, young blacks and middle-aged white workers and it becomes obvious that our society is falling apart. Leading unproductive lives results in their feelings of worthlessness and purposelessness. According to their genetic predispositions the one revenges itself by taking out their anger on society (with innocent "random" whites in particular suffering the brutal consequences of their selfish rage) and the other responds through self-destructive behavior. That this should be surprising to any competent social scientist is itself surprising.

    Additionally, the left's assault on society's root narratives and myths has deprived people of a transcendent, coherent frame of reference. Their heroes have been slandered and villainised and their cultural icons (statues) have been literally defaced, removed or toppled. Their yearly calendar of religious events has been erased. Memorials to criminal shysters such as MLKing as well as holocaust "museums" defile our sacred public places. The great insights and laws of our Founding Fathers are subjected to "deconstruction" by third-rate minds which have themselves, contributed nothing (comparatively) to the comfort and advancement of the human race. The marvelous inventions (by white men) that have raised the lives of billions of this planet's people from grinding poverty are reviled as tools of oppression. Everything is topsy turvy as the left rejoices in proclaiming the second coming of a "brown world" and celebrates the elevation to rule of those who, hitherto, have demonstrated no particular talent in conceiving or erecting this mirage-like paradise on Earth--or even a fully functioning democratic, first-world economy.

    What do these reformers have to offer except black-demogogue-preacher-revival-style "hope and change"? Certainly no long-term tangible prospects. Just handouts and the immediate gratification provided by reaction to or against an unresponsive Social Order; neither of which provides a productive life nor a meaningful larger frame of reference.

    Mmm, whatever…they collaborated in the destruction of our industrial base, all the same. Without a qualm, because those jobs were so unappealing to them personally.

    • Replies: @rvg
    Shouldn't you blame the libertarians for that?
  124. @Bill Jones
    If Fred wakes up tomorrow and thinks he's Napoleon, they'll give him psychotropic drugs to bring his delusions back into line with reality.
    If Fred wakes up tomorrow and thinks he's Josephine they'll give him hormones and surgery to bring his"reality" into line with his delusions.

    Wake me up when they can change chromosomes.

    Until then it's mental illness

    The lunatics who were released when Reagan emptied the asylums are now running the system.

    It was not Reagan who emptied the asylums. It was the courts deciding that mental illness was just a lifestyle choice. The states were only too happy to shut down their mental hospital, because at one point, 1/3 of all beds were occupied by mental patients. And of course the planned community centers, where these poor souls could come get their meds, never materialized.

    So was the homeless industry born. It is big business and a good club to beat the Rs with.

  125. @Threecranes
    Say what you like about Eric Fromm and his Frankfurt School affiliations, but he, at any rate, like the Early Marx and Veblen, stressed the point about how humans need to be productive in their daily endeavors.

    By "productive" Fromm, Veblen and Marx meant only that we engage in some-what meaningful work. This work didn't need to be earthshakingly original or daring, just socially useful and personally rewarding. Of course, they recognized that "personally rewarding" varies with the individual's capacities and their inherent strengths and weaknesses.

    The alternative, Fromm maintained, was a sense of meaninglessness, concomitant anger and destructiveness.

    Additionally, Fromm (from insight derived through years of listening to people air their grievances and gripes) came to understand that people need a meaningful "frame of reference" that lent their lives some transcendental order and sense of rightness. "Transcendental" doesn't necessarily imply a particular organized religion along with its pantheon of hoary gods but it does imply that people need to feel as though they belong to some larger coherent Gestalt in which their lives unfold, interaction with which gives their lives some sense of purpose and value.

    We see today the dissolution of society's answer to both of these essential needs and the tragic consequences. Looking at the unemployment rates among both uneducated, young blacks and middle-aged white workers and it becomes obvious that our society is falling apart. Leading unproductive lives results in their feelings of worthlessness and purposelessness. According to their genetic predispositions the one revenges itself by taking out their anger on society (with innocent "random" whites in particular suffering the brutal consequences of their selfish rage) and the other responds through self-destructive behavior. That this should be surprising to any competent social scientist is itself surprising.

    Additionally, the left's assault on society's root narratives and myths has deprived people of a transcendent, coherent frame of reference. Their heroes have been slandered and villainised and their cultural icons (statues) have been literally defaced, removed or toppled. Their yearly calendar of religious events has been erased. Memorials to criminal shysters such as MLKing as well as holocaust "museums" defile our sacred public places. The great insights and laws of our Founding Fathers are subjected to "deconstruction" by third-rate minds which have themselves, contributed nothing (comparatively) to the comfort and advancement of the human race. The marvelous inventions (by white men) that have raised the lives of billions of this planet's people from grinding poverty are reviled as tools of oppression. Everything is topsy turvy as the left rejoices in proclaiming the second coming of a "brown world" and celebrates the elevation to rule of those who, hitherto, have demonstrated no particular talent in conceiving or erecting this mirage-like paradise on Earth--or even a fully functioning democratic, first-world economy.

    What do these reformers have to offer except black-demogogue-preacher-revival-style "hope and change"? Certainly no long-term tangible prospects. Just handouts and the immediate gratification provided by reaction to or against an unresponsive Social Order; neither of which provides a productive life nor a meaningful larger frame of reference.

    Outstanding comment Former Liberal.

    People need to be part of something, see their lives, their work as part of something and meaningful. For people without a strong tribal identity, it is being part of a coherent nation–a people, a culture, a tradition. It is precisely that which is being ripped away from European descended peoples.

  126. @Threecranes
    Say what you like about Eric Fromm and his Frankfurt School affiliations, but he, at any rate, like the Early Marx and Veblen, stressed the point about how humans need to be productive in their daily endeavors.

    By "productive" Fromm, Veblen and Marx meant only that we engage in some-what meaningful work. This work didn't need to be earthshakingly original or daring, just socially useful and personally rewarding. Of course, they recognized that "personally rewarding" varies with the individual's capacities and their inherent strengths and weaknesses.

    The alternative, Fromm maintained, was a sense of meaninglessness, concomitant anger and destructiveness.

    Additionally, Fromm (from insight derived through years of listening to people air their grievances and gripes) came to understand that people need a meaningful "frame of reference" that lent their lives some transcendental order and sense of rightness. "Transcendental" doesn't necessarily imply a particular organized religion along with its pantheon of hoary gods but it does imply that people need to feel as though they belong to some larger coherent Gestalt in which their lives unfold, interaction with which gives their lives some sense of purpose and value.

    We see today the dissolution of society's answer to both of these essential needs and the tragic consequences. Looking at the unemployment rates among both uneducated, young blacks and middle-aged white workers and it becomes obvious that our society is falling apart. Leading unproductive lives results in their feelings of worthlessness and purposelessness. According to their genetic predispositions the one revenges itself by taking out their anger on society (with innocent "random" whites in particular suffering the brutal consequences of their selfish rage) and the other responds through self-destructive behavior. That this should be surprising to any competent social scientist is itself surprising.

    Additionally, the left's assault on society's root narratives and myths has deprived people of a transcendent, coherent frame of reference. Their heroes have been slandered and villainised and their cultural icons (statues) have been literally defaced, removed or toppled. Their yearly calendar of religious events has been erased. Memorials to criminal shysters such as MLKing as well as holocaust "museums" defile our sacred public places. The great insights and laws of our Founding Fathers are subjected to "deconstruction" by third-rate minds which have themselves, contributed nothing (comparatively) to the comfort and advancement of the human race. The marvelous inventions (by white men) that have raised the lives of billions of this planet's people from grinding poverty are reviled as tools of oppression. Everything is topsy turvy as the left rejoices in proclaiming the second coming of a "brown world" and celebrates the elevation to rule of those who, hitherto, have demonstrated no particular talent in conceiving or erecting this mirage-like paradise on Earth--or even a fully functioning democratic, first-world economy.

    What do these reformers have to offer except black-demogogue-preacher-revival-style "hope and change"? Certainly no long-term tangible prospects. Just handouts and the immediate gratification provided by reaction to or against an unresponsive Social Order; neither of which provides a productive life nor a meaningful larger frame of reference.

    The problem is that the traditional role models are full of holes and have behavior that are unacceptable by even the standards of the 1950s, like for example Washington and Jefferson held slaves, and Jefferson had sex with his underlings under duress, rape rates in the military, in the best case scenario, is about the same as the civilian world, and rape in the military is apparently endemic and systemic in nature, in an institution where discipline is supposed to be paramount, and we also find out the US troops in Europe shot to death half of the German soldiers that surrendered to them in non-mass surrenderings, and that hundreds of German POWs were executed in D-Day according to Max Hastings.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Sorry, this is a non-sequitur. Americans shot some German POW's, therefore we should allow boys in the girls locker room. Does not follow. War is hell. Rules that gentlemen lay down in pleasant salons become meaningless out on the bloody battlefield when you are struggling for your life. On the whole, the US treated German POWs very well - better than they treated their own black troops in many cases. We couldn't have shot that many of them because 425,000 made it to the US. Many of them enjoyed their experience so much that they immigrated back to the US after the war.


    It was always understood that America was an imperfect society, marred by slavery and violence. This never stopped us from wanting to form a "more perfect" nation . Washington was always known to be a slave owner and Jefferson was rumored to sleep with slaves even in his own lifetime. The difference was that we didn't teach children to hate these great men - winning the war against Britain and authoring our founding documents was considered more important than their personal foibles.
    , @bomag
    All together now...Don't Let the Perfect Be the Enemy of the Good.

    The problem is that the traditional role models are full of holes

    But if we are going to replace them, they should be replaced with something better, which we have not done. The problems you mention are no better under a modern SJW regime than ever before.

    And to bring up Jefferson and slavery just reflects indoctrination by your handlers. Slavery is a long standing institution in human affairs and was the norm in Jefferson's day. It is galling to have people talk like Jefferson woke up one day and decided to start the institution of slavery. To chastise him with today's standards just shows your basic lack of respect for fairness.

  127. @WhatEvvs
    Trump just did a presser at Trump Tower in NYC. I listened to 75%. It's great. He hasn't backed down a bit on immigration, the wall, anchor babies, etc. When he was needled that "walls don't work" he shot back, "look at Israel." He's listening to the drumbeats.

    Whatever his flaws, whatever happens, we have to be grateful to him for performing the public service of destroying the taboo against mentioning illegals, anchor babies, and a wall. Without Trump it would be Rubio v. Bush.

    I’m worried about Rubio, though. He’s the fallback candidate for the donors, and he doesn’t have Jeb’s baggage and poor political instincts. I hope Trump can expose him as the totally bought and paid-for Trojan horse that he is.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    Trump's doing his best. Check out the press conference, linked to at his FB page. He's treating Rubio like the fraud he is, pointing out that Rubio's insolvent, a spendthrift. If he can't run his own finances, etc. Trump is scalding Rubio.

    Honestly, all that Trump does is speak honestly, speak like a genuine human being rather than a damn robot. You'd think a mainstream pol would take a page from his success and do the same.

    Give 'em hell, Donnie!
  128. @Horzabky
    French star sociologist Emmanuel Todd noticed in the early 70s that the life expectancy of the average Soviet citizen had decreased. He surmised that it was because the communist system had become so dysfunctional that even hospitals didn't work properly anymore. He predicted that the USSR would collapse 20 years later, and that's exactly what happened.

    Is the USA becoming dysfunctional, too, and doomed to collapse somewhere around 2035? It's a possibility.

    I think that the collapse of the USA will be more brutal than the collapse of the USSR. Communism had ruined the Russian economy, turned everything into a badly run public service, but had left the nations of the old Russian Empire basically intact: Russians, Ukrainians, Estonians, Central Asians, etc., still existed as nations, with their distinct languages and cultures, living in relatively homogenous territories.

    When the cops stop showing up for work because they won't be paid anymore, it's important to live in a homogenous area with people like yourselves, and even better if everyone, yourself included, is everyone else's cousin in your local area.

    The Soviet people used to rely on their private gardens for food. It helped them a lot when the distribution circuits became erratic. As Dimitri Orlov has explained, the USA doesn't have the traits which enabled the former Soviet nations to survive the collapse of the USSR.

    Around 2035, it may be better to live in Vermont (if the Vermont of 2035 still looks like the Vermont of 2015) than in Southern California or New-York.

    Communism could not destroy a nation as effectively as the multicultural insanity will do.

    • Replies: @rvg
    You understood that it was communism that kept the USSR from enacting its own version of the 1965 immigration act right? And that is the reason why white slavs still make up 90% of Russia.
  129. @carol
    Mmm, whatever...they collaborated in the destruction of our industrial base, all the same. Without a qualm, because those jobs were so unappealing to them personally.

    Shouldn’t you blame the libertarians for that?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar


    Shouldn’t you blame the libertarians for that?

     

    When have libertarians ever had the reins of power?

    Other than Arizona and Alaska adopting Vermont's license-free concealed carry, what libertarian policy has been enacted anywhere in the US?
  130. @Harry Baldwin
    Communism could not destroy a nation as effectively as the multicultural insanity will do.

    You understood that it was communism that kept the USSR from enacting its own version of the 1965 immigration act right? And that is the reason why white slavs still make up 90% of Russia.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Yeah, we still got the better of that one, by far. I'd take America over Russia any day of the week. Hell, America's being Brazilified? I'd take Brazil over Russia.
    , @Jack D
    Even before the Communists (and after) Russia was more of an exporter of people than an importer. It's just not a very appealing society to immigrants. Immigrants flow mainly to the most appealing, richest places - if you are leaving your homeland, why not go to the place with the best economic prospects for you and your children? Even if Russia without Communism had had open borders, I doubt many people would have taken them up on it. Of course, a Russia without Communism might have also been more economically appealing, but we can see in the post-Soviet period that, once you excluded natural resource production (oil), it is just not that dynamic of an economy. This was true of pre-Communist Russia also.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    White Slavs (are there any other kind? Besides Alaskan half-breeds?) did not make up 90% of the USSR. Russia might be a lot more than 90% white had there never been a Soviet Union. Why they want to keep the Chechens is beyond me.
  131. @Anonymous
    Skin Deep: Does Anyone Own the Cornrow?

    Andrea Arterbery writes that she isn’t sure that the annoyance she feels when she sees cornrows on white women will ever disappear.

    There’s no way to sugarcoat this: I always experience a flash of annoyance when I see white girls wearing cornrows. Maybe it’s because the hairstyle is being marketed as “new and trendy.” Or it could be that I, as a black woman, know it’s not a style white girls wore when I was growing up, and that they often mocked me for wearing it.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/05/fashion/does-anyone-own-the-cornrow.html

    I didn’t care for it on Bo Derek in “10.”

  132. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “The problem is that the traditional role models are full of holes and have behavior that are unacceptable by even the standards of the 1950s, like for example Washington and Jefferson held slaves…”

    I think you’re making a really serious mistake in looking for perfection in human affairs. Humans are vastly flawed creatures. You are going to have to learn to live with it and live with real humans, not with some Utopian New Soviet Man Moral Superheroes. They don’t, and won’t, exist. Lies that try to make it so remain lies. Humans are what they are. Despite a lot of talk, they probably don’t change that much that fast. The demand for perfection is something suited for fiction, not the modern world.

  133. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Trump is making it a straight up choice with Rubio. He is making Rubio own the agreement with Obama’s executive actions, the open borders, the H1b stuff. If Iowegian Republic primary voter grandmothers are willing to vote for Rubio destroying their country, we might as well just close up shop.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    A free trip to tour Miami might be just the cure for that. The Don could easily swing two or three per precinct.
  134. @rvg
    You understood that it was communism that kept the USSR from enacting its own version of the 1965 immigration act right? And that is the reason why white slavs still make up 90% of Russia.

    Yeah, we still got the better of that one, by far. I’d take America over Russia any day of the week. Hell, America’s being Brazilified? I’d take Brazil over Russia.

  135. @MC
    “Dese trannies is gonna rape are preshiss lil girls! Won’t someone think o’ the wimminz??”

    Do you have a daughter?

    Setting aside the safety and propriety issues, there is also the intentional infliction of indignity. "Hey Christian bigots, don't like trannies, how about if your daughters had to use the bathroom with them? Bet you wish you could do something about that, but you can't, it's the current year." It's just a much milder version of the conquering hordes raping their enemies' women.

    I don’t but I do have female relatives and also a functioning frontal lobe which can allow me to put myself in other people’s shoes and debate the morality of an action.

    I’m not going to repeat everything I said in my prior comment which you kind of brushed off. I will add though that schools are not going to let any boy just say he’s a girl and then start using the girl’s locker room the next day.

    And sorry I don’t feel a lot of sympathy for Christian culture warriors… if that’s you I’m sorry

  136. @Federalist
    Anon said, "this screams risk." He did not say or imply that there is a "ubiquitous epidemic" of transsexuals raping girls in locker rooms. You are trying to make us normal people look like the hysterical, crazy ones. We are not the ones who are indulging the trannies' delusions by letting them use the women's bathroom and pretending that we think that they are really women.

    Why is the burden always on normal people? I don't want tranny perverts in bathrooms or locker rooms with my daughters even if there is no "ubiquitous epidemic." It's not like I am asking society for some unusual or burdensome accommodation. The trannies and their SJW pals are, though. They are the ones who are acting as if letting deranged men pee in the women's bathrooms is the moral equivalent of ending slavery.

    Look. Maybe the trannies are harmless but I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt. Considering that they are crazy enough to cut off their genitals or at least dream of doing so, it stands to reason that they are likely crazy enough to be a threat to women.

    If you were really intent on stopping the transgender blitzkrieg, you wouldn’t be using such an inflammatory language about them. That’s just going to piss them off more and alienate people on the fence from you. But like any ideologue, you value the way your rhetoric makes you feel more than the results it actually achieves.

    • Replies: @oh its just me
    "If you were really intent on stopping the transgender blitzkrieg, ...... using such an inflammatory language about them. "

    Ok sweetheart. but aren't you alienating people on the fence too?
  137. @Anonymous
    Skin Deep: Does Anyone Own the Cornrow?

    Andrea Arterbery writes that she isn’t sure that the annoyance she feels when she sees cornrows on white women will ever disappear.

    There’s no way to sugarcoat this: I always experience a flash of annoyance when I see white girls wearing cornrows. Maybe it’s because the hairstyle is being marketed as “new and trendy.” Or it could be that I, as a black woman, know it’s not a style white girls wore when I was growing up, and that they often mocked me for wearing it.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/05/fashion/does-anyone-own-the-cornrow.html

    Stop complaining already. And if you desire to be accepted by intelligent people, drop the shallow Marcusian cultural Marxism with its unsubstantiated, bogus notion of “cultural appropriation”. After all, as the old saying goes: “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.”

    In other words they like and admire you, so your rejection of them comes off as sneering disdain for an over-eager fan i.e. you have managed to invert the accepted narrative of who plays which role in our nation’s Master/Slave morality play. If no one pays attention to you then you’re the poor unfortunate because no one cares enough to notice you. If, on the other hand, they honor you through imitation you’re the victim because “appropriation”. So congratulations, either way you win. You’re just being manipulative; with this strategy you may win battles, but you won’t win the war.

  138. @Bill
    This particular thing is trivia, but it will get worse. Next will be lowering the age of consent and then a relaxation of the taboo (is it even a taboo any more?) against teacher-student contact. When your teenaged son's gay gym teacher nails him, not only will it be legal and not only will he not lose his job, but it will be none of your business and you will be publicly shamed if you object. That won't be trivia because it won't be rare. It already isn't rare--the teachers nailing students part. I give this scenario twenty years to become common, maybe thirty.

    They won't make home schooling illegal, though. The gym teachers will be content only preying on the sons whose parents don't give a crap about them. That will be most of them, and most of them is good enough. This way, there won't be any real resistance. The minority of the population who actually care about their children will have an out; they will take the out; and they will not become radicalized.

    Don’t know about the possibilities of your scenario, but do get the whole degradation of public morals. As a “gym” teacher myself, I don’t see the gay male teacher preying on the sons, as I can’t believe there are many gay PE teachers. Lesbian PE teachers preying on the daughters, yes, that is very possible.

    • Replies: @Bill
    Yeah, I agree. It's much more likely to be their German teacher or English teacher. Gym teacher is more vivid, though, because locker-rooms.
  139. @rvg
    You understood that it was communism that kept the USSR from enacting its own version of the 1965 immigration act right? And that is the reason why white slavs still make up 90% of Russia.

    Even before the Communists (and after) Russia was more of an exporter of people than an importer. It’s just not a very appealing society to immigrants. Immigrants flow mainly to the most appealing, richest places – if you are leaving your homeland, why not go to the place with the best economic prospects for you and your children? Even if Russia without Communism had had open borders, I doubt many people would have taken them up on it. Of course, a Russia without Communism might have also been more economically appealing, but we can see in the post-Soviet period that, once you excluded natural resource production (oil), it is just not that dynamic of an economy. This was true of pre-Communist Russia also.

  140. @Buzz Mohawk
    It is happening, my friend. It is happening. You should not be surprised.

    More to come...

    It will become increasingly difficult for aging European Americans to pay their medical deductible costs in a system that caters to the fastest growing, least productive segments of the population. Black and brown unwed mothers will get all their baby costs and emergency room visits paid for, while retired Smiths and Joneses who worked all their lives will have a hard time coming up with their share of a hernia operation, hip replacement, or dental care.

    Greater and greater numbers of them will see declining real value in their monthly Social Security deposits, forcing them to make tradeoffs for necessities -- and in many cases sell their homes in a declining market. (They won't be able to afford their property taxes in cities that have to pay school personnel to babysit and feed all those brown babies.)

    Their retirment investments or pensions will shrink or disappear as more and more states and municipalities go bust under the weight of supporting those same growing, unproductive groups. Their investment advisors will unwisely have them in a bubble. (Look around, you are in a bubble now. See the colorful soapy colors swirling around? Isn't it beautiful as the DOW keeps rising...)

    As they say, getting old sucks -- but getting old in a declining civilization sucks even more.

    But don't we all here already know all this?

    They won’t be able to afford their property taxes in cities that have to pay school personnel to babysit and feed all those brown babies.

    If they can’t afford the taxes, who can?

    Is our new demographic even educable in the classic sense? Are they even capable of productive work in the machine and robot future?

    We have a new model brewing where the one percent is so productive that they support 99% in a “fashion to which they have become accustomed.” We’ll see how sustainable that is.

  141. @rvg
    The problem is that the traditional role models are full of holes and have behavior that are unacceptable by even the standards of the 1950s, like for example Washington and Jefferson held slaves, and Jefferson had sex with his underlings under duress, rape rates in the military, in the best case scenario, is about the same as the civilian world, and rape in the military is apparently endemic and systemic in nature, in an institution where discipline is supposed to be paramount, and we also find out the US troops in Europe shot to death half of the German soldiers that surrendered to them in non-mass surrenderings, and that hundreds of German POWs were executed in D-Day according to Max Hastings.

    Sorry, this is a non-sequitur. Americans shot some German POW’s, therefore we should allow boys in the girls locker room. Does not follow. War is hell. Rules that gentlemen lay down in pleasant salons become meaningless out on the bloody battlefield when you are struggling for your life. On the whole, the US treated German POWs very well – better than they treated their own black troops in many cases. We couldn’t have shot that many of them because 425,000 made it to the US. Many of them enjoyed their experience so much that they immigrated back to the US after the war.

    It was always understood that America was an imperfect society, marred by slavery and violence. This never stopped us from wanting to form a “more perfect” nation . Washington was always known to be a slave owner and Jefferson was rumored to sleep with slaves even in his own lifetime. The difference was that we didn’t teach children to hate these great men – winning the war against Britain and authoring our founding documents was considered more important than their personal foibles.

  142. @rvg
    The problem is that the traditional role models are full of holes and have behavior that are unacceptable by even the standards of the 1950s, like for example Washington and Jefferson held slaves, and Jefferson had sex with his underlings under duress, rape rates in the military, in the best case scenario, is about the same as the civilian world, and rape in the military is apparently endemic and systemic in nature, in an institution where discipline is supposed to be paramount, and we also find out the US troops in Europe shot to death half of the German soldiers that surrendered to them in non-mass surrenderings, and that hundreds of German POWs were executed in D-Day according to Max Hastings.

    All together now…Don’t Let the Perfect Be the Enemy of the Good.

    The problem is that the traditional role models are full of holes

    But if we are going to replace them, they should be replaced with something better, which we have not done. The problems you mention are no better under a modern SJW regime than ever before.

    And to bring up Jefferson and slavery just reflects indoctrination by your handlers. Slavery is a long standing institution in human affairs and was the norm in Jefferson’s day. It is galling to have people talk like Jefferson woke up one day and decided to start the institution of slavery. To chastise him with today’s standards just shows your basic lack of respect for fairness.

  143. @Anonymous
    Skin Deep: Does Anyone Own the Cornrow?

    Andrea Arterbery writes that she isn’t sure that the annoyance she feels when she sees cornrows on white women will ever disappear.

    There’s no way to sugarcoat this: I always experience a flash of annoyance when I see white girls wearing cornrows. Maybe it’s because the hairstyle is being marketed as “new and trendy.” Or it could be that I, as a black woman, know it’s not a style white girls wore when I was growing up, and that they often mocked me for wearing it.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/05/fashion/does-anyone-own-the-cornrow.html

    Sailer’s Law, yeah, sure, and of course black women wearing weaves so that they can shed the nappy look and style their hair like white girls. Corn rows for me, but not for thee, perpetual grievances.

  144. @WhatEvvs
    Right! But the 13-year old girl that matters is the transgender girl, aching with desire for womanhood...

    Why the aching and agony from a transgendered 13-year old girl? Gender is a choice. Will it … say it, and it is so! I know I read that somewhere.

    Same for race. If there are no races, what is all of this fuss about? I guess we gringos are discrimating and committing micro-aggressions against people who don’t exist. Shame on us!

    Ah, I get it! Race is also a choice. I can’t understand why people would “choose” to become a victimized underclass, but who am I to criticize someone elses choices?

  145. @H2
    There have been stories along those lines, but the complainers are shamed for complaining. A famous one was a woman losing her gym membership after complaining about a transgender woman using the women's facilities:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mich-woman-loses-gym-membership-transgender-complaint-article-1.2141255

    H2, worst part about that story is that the woman had no clue that the man in her lockerroom identified as a woman. In fact all she did was tell them that a man was in her lockerroom. She made no anti-transsexual remarks.

  146. @snorlax
    The Washington Post is far less toxic than the NYT. Just for one recent example, they were the first mainstream outlet to expose the Rolling Stone/UVA thing as a hoax, and pretty quickly, although I don't think they ever picked up the Haven Monahan angle.

    , if Drudge links a WaPo article it often ends up looking like Breitbart in the comments. Never see that in the NYT.

  147. @Anon
    Trump is making it a straight up choice with Rubio. He is making Rubio own the agreement with Obama's executive actions, the open borders, the H1b stuff. If Iowegian Republic primary voter grandmothers are willing to vote for Rubio destroying their country, we might as well just close up shop.

    A free trip to tour Miami might be just the cure for that. The Don could easily swing two or three per precinct.

  148. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    I'm worried about Rubio, though. He's the fallback candidate for the donors, and he doesn't have Jeb's baggage and poor political instincts. I hope Trump can expose him as the totally bought and paid-for Trojan horse that he is.

    Trump’s doing his best. Check out the press conference, linked to at his FB page. He’s treating Rubio like the fraud he is, pointing out that Rubio’s insolvent, a spendthrift. If he can’t run his own finances, etc. Trump is scalding Rubio.

    Honestly, all that Trump does is speak honestly, speak like a genuine human being rather than a damn robot. You’d think a mainstream pol would take a page from his success and do the same.

    Give ‘em hell, Donnie!

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    @Harry Baldwin

    Trump is very enjoyable to listen to, if you can tune out some of the bluster. He is incisively intelligent. For example, he pointed out that when Sanders did his email shtick on the "debate," he killed his campaign. Killed it, just killed it. Now Sanders is saying that the inquiry into her emails is appropriate, or perhaps the subpoenas, can't remember - why? He dismissed the importance in his debut.

    Trump is always right about these things. He senses a weakness and drives home the point relentlessly. My guess is that now that he's knocked off Jeb!, he's focusing on Rubio, who should be an easy target. Then Carson. He will not pull punches with Carson, but might run into some problems with the Evangelical Nice White Ladies who think Ben & Candy will restore morality in America.

  149. @rvg
    You understood that it was communism that kept the USSR from enacting its own version of the 1965 immigration act right? And that is the reason why white slavs still make up 90% of Russia.

    White Slavs (are there any other kind? Besides Alaskan half-breeds?) did not make up 90% of the USSR. Russia might be a lot more than 90% white had there never been a Soviet Union. Why they want to keep the Chechens is beyond me.

    • Replies: @Old Jew
    Oil or Oil pipelines path
  150. @rvg
    Shouldn't you blame the libertarians for that?

    Shouldn’t you blame the libertarians for that?

    When have libertarians ever had the reins of power?

    Other than Arizona and Alaska adopting Vermont’s license-free concealed carry, what libertarian policy has been enacted anywhere in the US?

  151. Federal Education authorities should get a second opinion on transgendered individuals. Here’s one from Dr. Paul McHugh, former psychiatrist-in-chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital:

    …policy makers and the media are doing no favors either to the public or the transgendered by treating their confusions as a right in need of defending rather than as a mental disorder that deserves understanding, treatment and prevention. This intensely felt sense of being transgendered constitutes a mental disorder in two respects. The first is that the idea of sex misalignment is simply mistaken—it does not correspond with physical reality. The second is that it can lead to grim psychological outcomes.

    The transgendered suffer a disorder of “assumption” like those in other disorders familiar to psychiatrists. With the transgendered, the disordered assumption is that the individual differs from what seems given in nature—namely one’s maleness or femaleness. Other kinds of disordered assumptions are held by those who suffer from anorexia and bulimia nervosa, where the assumption that departs from physical reality is the belief by the dangerously thin that they are overweight…

    (From WSJ: search for “Transgender Surgery Isn’t the Solution” on Google to evade the WSJ paywall to read the rest of this reasoned, compassionate article)

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    It's a good thing that Dr. Paul McHugh, former psychiatrist-in-chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital, was already a former chief when he said that, because he certainly would be a former chief by now.
  152. @AndrewR
    Ah yes. Who could ignore the ubiquitous epidemic of MtF transsexuals raping hapless girls in locker rooms? Must be a librul conspiracy!!!

    You make a comment like that while in another comment posing as a conservative of sorts defending the “Gray Lady” as having a less toxic comments section than those of other leftwing media outlets. you are a transparent fraud.

  153. @AndrewR
    Presumably he would be expelled and arrested.

    If so, no thanks to people like you.

  154. @Reg Cæsar
    White Slavs (are there any other kind? Besides Alaskan half-breeds?) did not make up 90% of the USSR. Russia might be a lot more than 90% white had there never been a Soviet Union. Why they want to keep the Chechens is beyond me.

    Oil or Oil pipelines path

  155. @AndrewR
    If you were really intent on stopping the transgender blitzkrieg, you wouldn't be using such an inflammatory language about them. That's just going to piss them off more and alienate people on the fence from you. But like any ideologue, you value the way your rhetoric makes you feel more than the results it actually achieves.

    “If you were really intent on stopping the transgender blitzkrieg, …… using such an inflammatory language about them. ”

    Ok sweetheart. but aren’t you alienating people on the fence too?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I don't think I'm an ideologue on this topic. I'm not terribly thrilled about chicks with dicks showering with my female loved ones but the thought of it doesn't send me into apoplexy either. I can't understand what it's like to not identify with one's biological sex, but I'm open-minded enough to hear out people who don't identify with theirs. I think I concur with most folks on here in thinking this was a case of federal overreach. I also concur that the left tends to push too much too fast. But basic human decency would seem to require a humble willingness to listen to people different from ourselves.
  156. @oh its just me
    "If you were really intent on stopping the transgender blitzkrieg, ...... using such an inflammatory language about them. "

    Ok sweetheart. but aren't you alienating people on the fence too?

    I don’t think I’m an ideologue on this topic. I’m not terribly thrilled about chicks with dicks showering with my female loved ones but the thought of it doesn’t send me into apoplexy either. I can’t understand what it’s like to not identify with one’s biological sex, but I’m open-minded enough to hear out people who don’t identify with theirs. I think I concur with most folks on here in thinking this was a case of federal overreach. I also concur that the left tends to push too much too fast. But basic human decency would seem to require a humble willingness to listen to people different from ourselves.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I can’t understand what it’s like to not identify with one’s biological sex, but I’m open-minded enough to hear out people who don’t identify with theirs.
     
    What about people who don't identify with their species?
  157. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @WhatEvvs
    Trump's doing his best. Check out the press conference, linked to at his FB page. He's treating Rubio like the fraud he is, pointing out that Rubio's insolvent, a spendthrift. If he can't run his own finances, etc. Trump is scalding Rubio.

    Honestly, all that Trump does is speak honestly, speak like a genuine human being rather than a damn robot. You'd think a mainstream pol would take a page from his success and do the same.

    Give 'em hell, Donnie!

    Trump is very enjoyable to listen to, if you can tune out some of the bluster. He is incisively intelligent. For example, he pointed out that when Sanders did his email shtick on the “debate,” he killed his campaign. Killed it, just killed it. Now Sanders is saying that the inquiry into her emails is appropriate, or perhaps the subpoenas, can’t remember – why? He dismissed the importance in his debut.

    Trump is always right about these things. He senses a weakness and drives home the point relentlessly. My guess is that now that he’s knocked off Jeb!, he’s focusing on Rubio, who should be an easy target. Then Carson. He will not pull punches with Carson, but might run into some problems with the Evangelical Nice White Ladies who think Ben & Candy will restore morality in America.

  158. @Anon7
    Federal Education authorities should get a second opinion on transgendered individuals. Here's one from Dr. Paul McHugh, former psychiatrist-in-chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital:


    ...policy makers and the media are doing no favors either to the public or the transgendered by treating their confusions as a right in need of defending rather than as a mental disorder that deserves understanding, treatment and prevention. This intensely felt sense of being transgendered constitutes a mental disorder in two respects. The first is that the idea of sex misalignment is simply mistaken—it does not correspond with physical reality. The second is that it can lead to grim psychological outcomes.

    The transgendered suffer a disorder of "assumption" like those in other disorders familiar to psychiatrists. With the transgendered, the disordered assumption is that the individual differs from what seems given in nature—namely one's maleness or femaleness. Other kinds of disordered assumptions are held by those who suffer from anorexia and bulimia nervosa, where the assumption that departs from physical reality is the belief by the dangerously thin that they are overweight...

     

    (From WSJ: search for “Transgender Surgery Isn’t the Solution” on Google to evade the WSJ paywall to read the rest of this reasoned, compassionate article)

    It’s a good thing that Dr. Paul McHugh, former psychiatrist-in-chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital, was already a former chief when he said that, because he certainly would be a former chief by now.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    Department of grimly amusing: the "trans" student's rights are an extension of Title IX, the greatest achievement of radical feminism.
  159. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    It's a good thing that Dr. Paul McHugh, former psychiatrist-in-chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital, was already a former chief when he said that, because he certainly would be a former chief by now.

    Department of grimly amusing: the “trans” student’s rights are an extension of Title IX, the greatest achievement of radical feminism.

  160. @Ron Mexico
    Don't know about the possibilities of your scenario, but do get the whole degradation of public morals. As a "gym" teacher myself, I don't see the gay male teacher preying on the sons, as I can't believe there are many gay PE teachers. Lesbian PE teachers preying on the daughters, yes, that is very possible.

    Yeah, I agree. It’s much more likely to be their German teacher or English teacher. Gym teacher is more vivid, though, because locker-rooms.

  161. @AndrewR
    I don't think I'm an ideologue on this topic. I'm not terribly thrilled about chicks with dicks showering with my female loved ones but the thought of it doesn't send me into apoplexy either. I can't understand what it's like to not identify with one's biological sex, but I'm open-minded enough to hear out people who don't identify with theirs. I think I concur with most folks on here in thinking this was a case of federal overreach. I also concur that the left tends to push too much too fast. But basic human decency would seem to require a humble willingness to listen to people different from ourselves.

    I can’t understand what it’s like to not identify with one’s biological sex, but I’m open-minded enough to hear out people who don’t identify with theirs.

    What about people who don’t identify with their species?

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