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From the Chicago Tribune:

Chicago police want to question ‘Empire’ actor Jussie Smollett after questioning and releasing 2 brothers

Tracy Swartz, Jeremy Gorner, Annie Sweeney
Chicago Tribune

Chicago police said Saturday they have reached out to the attorney for “Empire” star Jussie Smollett because they still want to speak to Smollett after releasing two brothers they had been questioning about a reported attack against the actor.

Twelve hours after calling them “possible suspects,” police late Friday released the brothers without filing any charges, citing “new evidence” they did not disclose.

“Detectives have additional investigative work to complete,” police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said in a tweet.

Outside the South Side police station where the brothers were held for two days, their lawyer told reporters Friday night that “innocence prevailed” but was vague about why her clients were taken into custody and why they were released. …

Police sources have said detectives are investigating the possibility that Smollett had the brothers fake the attack around 2 a.m. Jan. 29 in Streeterville. Schmidt has said the brothers have worked with Smollett on “Empire” and use the same gym. Smollett follows the brothers’ bodybuilding page on Instagram.

Pressed about speculation that Smollett set up the attack, Schmidt said “there’s still a lot of moving parts to this. … I’m not part of Jussie’s defense. I’m not part of what’s going on with him. I can just tell you that my guys (are) innocent of the charge and they’re going home.”

Asked about the “new evidence” police mentioned, Schmidt said, “Obviously I had it. Obviously my clients had it. But I think it took a matter of coordination.” She would not say what that was.

… Chicago criminal defense attorney Michael Monico, who is representing Smollett, declined to comment. …

 
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  1. The noose is tightening.

  2. Well, he did put the noose around his own neck .

  3. Will they turn this into a “Law & Order” episode? Or have they already, where his assailants are white?

    New TV show idea: real-life hate hoaxes. I think there is more than enough to make a show. Would be kind of fun and upbeat compared to the normal murder shows.

  4. Police sources have said detectives are investigating the possibility that Smollett had the brothers fake the attack around 2 a.m. Jan. 29 in Streeterville.

    I don’t know. I mean the letter he sent himself seems to indicate this could have been planned, but actually paying a pair of bodybuilders to punch you in the face for the sole purpose of faking an attack? I think Steve had it first time with his injuries being a side of risky gay sex that is seldom spoken about today.

    And how are the two brothers innocent per the police if they’re now convinced from talking to them that they knowingly accepted money in order to misled police with a fake crime?

  5. anon[242] • Disclaimer says:

    I wonder what kind of in-fighting is taking place in the Chicago Police Dept right now. The mayor, police chief, and political power players surely want this investigation to be dropped or memory-holed. Real cops motivated to catch bad guys want to nail Smollett for lying and playing games with them.

  6. Gee, why would a victim hire a criminal defense lawyer? This guy better go to jail.

  7. Outside the South Side police station where the brothers were held for two days, their lawyer told reporters Friday night that “innocence prevailed” but was vague about why her clients were taken into custody and why they were released.

    Well, it’s hard to make arrests stick for something that didn’t happen.

    Police sources have said detectives are investigating the possibility that Smollett had the brothers fake the attack around 2 a.m. Jan. 29 in Streeterville.

    No, no, no, a thousand times no. A thousand times* being the approximate number of instances in which the MSM has ‘semi-quoted’ the CPD to the effect that this is absolutely, positively, not a hoax, and that we should just move on to the next story.

    * An earlier version of this post quoted the figure “Sixty Million” but that was actually the number of times Twitter users retweeted images of Jussie’s “injury” along with claims about “Racism” and “White Privilege”. We regret the error.

  8. Oh, so now Jussie’s shut his big flapping yap, and we’re talking to his lawyer. Who’s got no comment.

    I’m shocked I tell u.

  9. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/02/breaking-nigerian-bros-purchased-the-rope-found-around-jussie-smolletts-neck-from-ace-hardware-smollett-may-have-paid-them-to-perform-scheme/

    OBAB or Of Bleeks and Blugs.

    Jussie Smollett is a gift that keeps on giving. If Sailer hasn’t yet named the Steveosphere Man of the Year, Smollett has to be it. He’s better than Enrique Marquez.

    I can’t think of any person who’s intersected so many themes of HBD.

    1. Mulatto Negro with mulatto privilege. Gay and Gray(between black and white). The kind of softy Negro who is non-threatening and embraced by whites.

    2. Black moral megalomania + Homo vanity = pathological mendacity.

    3. Compliant and encouraging Jewish Media(though I suspect they egged on Jussie this time to watch him fall because surely even Jews are sick of this BS, esp as Smollett defamed a prog city run by a Jewish mayor).

    4. Tail-the-Honkey hysteria once again from the political class that was eager to swallow this horseshi*. Now, if this hoax was only about Smollett cooking up a lie, it would have been like the BS at the naval academy and would have faded. But the ‘suspects’? Shiite, it got even better than the two black guys who were caught in Texas for shooting the black girl. The black killers in Texas at least looked ‘normal’. In this case, these are Monster Negroes. It went from mere mendacity to mandingo nightmare. And they aren’t just black but African blacks, the kind who are multiplying all over Africa and heading to Europe and America. The media hired and coddled Jussie the homo mulatto as the Clean Face of blackness and New Rap(that is gay-friendly), but lurking in the shadows of white liberal fantasies is the scary Monster Negro. It’s like the gargantuan negro who lurks around BLOOD SIMPLE, but two of them.

    It’s like starting a search for Emmanuel Lewis and ending up with King Kong, the dark repressed truth. It went from peter pan fantasy to dark reality.

    This is the real BLAKKKLANSMAN. He sho is kkkraaaaaaazy.

  10. Does anyone think there will really be any repercussions, beyond the general acknowledgment that this is a “teachable moment” regarding white supremacy and privilege?

    Remember Mizzou? One of the more elaborate and extended hoaxes in recent years, and a grand total of zero of the perpetrators were held to account.

    Remember the Air Force Academy? The “N-Word” was scrawled on some message boards, along with “Get Out!” Air Force Academy Preparatory School superintendent Lt. Gen. Jay Silveria made himself internationally-famous by promising “severe repercussions” and with a speech including emphatic pronouncements to the effect that “If you demean someone in any way, then you need to get out. And if you can’t treat someone from another race or different color skin with dignity and respect, then you need to get out.”

    Struck just the right note, didn’t he? But when the perp failed to live up to Central Casting requisites (he was black himself) he was quietly permitted to transfer to another school. His name wasn’t even released. I wonder, what do the Academy students think?

  11. The wheels are coming off this old waycar sent down the hump yard as a prank.

  12. Michael Monico was one of Michael Cohen’s defense attorneys. Jussie’s choice of PR firm and defense attorney is hilarious

  13. “I can just tell you that my guys (are) innocent of the charge and they’re going home.”

    Makes sense.
    Can we now proclaim a Full and Unconditional Innocence for all Wakandians, so they can finally feel free to go home?

  14. it’s tightening, and he can feel it tightening!

    Bill in Glendale

  15. • Replies: @ChrisZ
    They shoulda known he was bad news by just looking at his smirk.
  16. No Noose Isn’t Good Noose, it seems.

  17. on CNN.com now, Chicago PD sources says Smollett hired the two MAGArian brothers:

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/entertainment/jussie-smollett-attack/index.html

  18. Smollett wants to star in the new NBC series Chicago Hoax.

  19. Oh what a tangled web we weave…

  20. > Breaking: Two law enforcement sources tell CNN that Chicago Police believe Jussie Smollett paid two men to orchestrate the assault. Rolling live coverage starting now on @CNN…

    Such a beautiful turn of events for this saga.

  21. Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.

    At least Jackie required a little detective work and insight to see through her story. It was satisfying to see it turn to garbage because you had to use your brain and common sense to poke the holes.

    There’s no challenge in this one.

    Better Trolls, please.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    So says you, but the prestige media hasn't given up on it yet.
    , @anon
    There is an absurdity and stupidity to all of this that will keep it alive. Like Charlie Sheen or the Astronaut Diaper Lady.
    , @HEL

    At least Jackie required a little detective work and insight to see through her story.
     
    Nah. Jackie's 'rape,' as described early in the article, was 100% laughable. It required no more research or serious debunking than a description of her being anally-probed by 9 polo-shirt-wearing preppie aliens would. Many on the right were mocking it well before the debunkings began. The article refuted itself, many, many times.

    Of course most of the people expressing e-outrage over the ridiculous events described in that piece probably didn't actually read it. You could distill that story down to a 2 sentence summary that one could believe. A chick was gang raped at a party at UVA and everyone got away with it scot-free. In the Smollett case, though, there isn't a solitary detail that any reasonable person should view with anything other than great skepticism. It is the deranged fantasy of an absolute moron.
    , @Hypnotoad666

    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.
     
    But the transparent stupidity of this hoax is actually what's significant about it.

    The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what's left of their credibility once and for all.
    , @ben tillman

    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.

    At least Jackie required a little detective work and insight to see through her story.
     

    We never heard Jackie's story.

    But it was almost immediately obvious that Rubin Erdely's story was false. And when I say "almost immediately", I am saying that the "medium" was less than 30 seconds.

  22. Now that Smollet and Cohen are represented by the same Deep Shyster, let’s fire some popcorn and wait to see how Mueller triangulates The Bleach Boys to Trump and Russians,

  23. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:

    Smollett gave himself away in his most recent interview. He said, “I feel like If I had said my attackers were Muslim or Mexican or someone black, I feel like the doubters would have supported me a lot much more.”

    That is a bizarre statement to make. He is leaking information that it was a somewhat arbitrary decision to choose to invent white Trump lovers as his attackers.

    Of course, if he was more honest with himself he would understand that real life isn’t arbitrary, and actually, neither was his lie. We are not all interchangeable. His lie was a libel against traditional white people for a reason and we all know what it is. Ambition for political power for his identity groups.

    I am so sick of the gnostic philosophy that I could just as easily be you and you me. No, that’s not how this works.

  24. My best guess is that there’s a salon of super duper celebrity Trump haters who’ve created the “Hate Hoax Challenge”. Somehow they manipulated it so that Jussie would be the sap that goes first to see if it was really a feasible idea going forward.

  25. How long ago did he retain this criminal defense attorney?

  26. Systemic racism is about effect, not intent. So while the intent of the Chicago PD was to gather evidence and seek to uncover the truth in pursuit of justice, the effect was to discredit a black man who paid two associates to fake a hate crime on the coldest day of the year. Consequently, I condemn the actions of CPD. Their behavior has no place in a civilized society.

  27. bored identity presents y’all with the Stone Age of Innocence:

    Olabinjo Osundairo, 27, was sentenced to two years’ probation and fined $674 in September 2012 after pleading guilty to a single count of aggravated battery in a public place.

    Bodybuilder Osundairo was originally charged with attempted murder, two counts of aggravated battery causing great bodily harm, one of aggravated battery with an air rifle, two of aggravated battery in a public place and one of unlawful restraint.

    All charges except one of aggravated battery were thrown out, according to a disposition document obtained exclusively by DailyMail.com.

    Younger brother Abimbola, 25, is also no stranger to the law and was booked on DUI and speeding charges in July 2015 according to Chicago arrest records.

  28. Word is he’s fled Chicago and is holed up at Ed Buck’s compound in LA…

  29. But what really comes as a shocking surprise is that both Olabinjo and Abimbola are anti-Trump:

  30. I’m a little surprised that this is still a story. I really don’t think the MSM wants to get the idea of Hate Hoaxes out there, unless they think there’s enough time to get out ahead of it before the 2020 election.

  31. queue the ‘I was just trying to raise awareness about racism and homophobia” line,
    then back to business as usual.
    the NYT will quietly subtly say the case has been dropped. So the progressive left it’s a win- two weeks+ straight of white cis males are violent thugs that need to be curtailed- that’s what will be remembered not the fraud.

  32. he’s toast–if this is a conspiracy he’ll be charged with a felony, forced to pay expenses of bogus investigation, and do definite jail time. And his career is over

  33. @candid_observer
    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.

    At least Jackie required a little detective work and insight to see through her story. It was satisfying to see it turn to garbage because you had to use your brain and common sense to poke the holes.

    There's no challenge in this one.

    Better Trolls, please.

    So says you, but the prestige media hasn’t given up on it yet.

    • Replies: @rufus
    Prestige ? lotta those boys went down in the weinstein/me too purges. Got crossways with legal and marketing.

    Its interns and second tier guys now.
    , @Jack D
    No, today is the tipping point. Sure there will be holdouts - Jessica Valenti STILL thinks that Jackie was raped on broken glass, but it's pretty much the end now.

    Why is it that a bunch of yahoos like us could smell the hoax a mile away from the very first second but a whole bunch of esteemed journalists and politicians rushed to say that they believed him and to condemn this vicious racist Trumpist attack, yada, yada? Didn't they have a clue? Are they really that gullible? Some of their followers are, but are these folks who are serious Presidential contenders really that dumb?

    I think the answer is no - they knew that they could get away with it. That they could score points in the short run by sympathizing with this "victim" and that later when the hoax fell apart they could feign innocence - it's like "believe women" - we should always give the victim the benefit of the doubt. This was even better than the Duke case or Covington where if you had an ounce of morals it would bother you that some innocent boys were being railroaded (not that this stopped a lot of people). This was another Haven Monahan type attack - it's easy to hate on a fictional character. Orwell (who was so prescient it's scary) understood this with Emmanuel Goldstein. He didn't steal that plot line from the Communists - Trotsky was a real person.

    Now that it's all going to hell, they will say that it's unfortunate that Jussie fooled them but we were all taught an important lesson that we must never tolerate hate, etc. No price will be paid at all, except by Jussie. Jackie was smart enough NEVER to talk to the cops, but Jussie talked plenty and he is going down for filing a false police report, etc.
  34. • LOL: Bubba
  35. Quotes from actual Nigerian scam emails:

    “I was bruised, but my ribs were not cracked. They were not broken.”

    “I fought the fuck back.”

    “I’m the gay Tupac.”

  36. When it comes to hate hoaxes rarely do we see “innocence prevailed.” Ask the Covington boys or the Duke lacrosse team.

    • Agree: anon1
    • Replies: @rufus
    Yet Haven Monahan is a free man ?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    When it comes to hate hoaxes rarely do we see “innocence prevailed.” Ask the Covington boys or the Duke lacrosse team.
     
    Smollett may be worth a lawsuit, though. If there were anyone to file it.
    , @South Texas Guy
    The lacrosse guys got a big wad of money. And no one remembers their names. Though fat lot of good that would have done them had Nifong succeeded in his trumped up charges against them. The Covington kids, or maybe Sandmann (what a name!), will probably pocket some dough, too.
    , @Jack D
    Innocence did prevail in the Duke case. The prosecutor was disbarred and the boys collected MILLIONS from Duke.

    The Covington boys probably have big settlements coming too. I wouldn't want to be the insurance company of all the folks who libeled them on Twitter. They were not public figures when this started so the bar for libel is much lower.
  37. I think as discerning readers, we should hang our hat on the “Fake Noose” nomenclature regarding all future white on black or colored people hate hoaxes. It just fits.

  38. Another instance of immigrants doing work Americans won’t do. Why are these Nigerians in the USA exactly? We don’t have enough domestic buff criminal blacks that can work as extras? Read elsewhere that the brothers are pro-LGBTQ and anti-Trump and “have a relationship” with Jussie also. Are they here under some sort of persecuted quota basis? Can they be permanently deported yet based on criminal activity?

  39. @Buffalo Joe
    When it comes to hate hoaxes rarely do we see "innocence prevailed." Ask the Covington boys or the Duke lacrosse team.

    Yet Haven Monahan is a free man ?

  40. @Harry Baldwin
    So says you, but the prestige media hasn't given up on it yet.

    Prestige ? lotta those boys went down in the weinstein/me too purges. Got crossways with legal and marketing.

    Its interns and second tier guys now.

  41. In more ways than one.

  42. Nothing gets me angrier than the idea of MAGA cap wearing young white males marauding across the streets of Chicago at night accosting gay males of color, said no one ever except Jussie Smollett.

  43. If the noose is loose….it must be a ruse.

  44. If he wanted publicity, why didn’t his agent arrange the Fauxmance, complete with jealous scenes, feuding, songs with revenge lyrics, the reconciliation (with relevant bling on Instagram), etc.?
    Same soap opera effect, and nobody’s going to investigate whether it’s all fake.

    • LOL: Cortes
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Have to agree-- if any element of this was a publicity grab or distraction, why choose this way, when the fame game provides players with so many options (for a small fee)? Whatever happened to just getting yourself arrested protesting something? I guess the going-to-rehab gimmick has been exhausted.

    Very dim on the part of Smollett, who is not used to or out of the habit of thinking anything through.
  45. @candid_observer
    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.

    At least Jackie required a little detective work and insight to see through her story. It was satisfying to see it turn to garbage because you had to use your brain and common sense to poke the holes.

    There's no challenge in this one.

    Better Trolls, please.

    There is an absurdity and stupidity to all of this that will keep it alive. Like Charlie Sheen or the Astronaut Diaper Lady.

  46. CPD doing their best to make this as anticlimactic as possible, slowly piecing out info one morsel at a time to overturn The Narrative. Will it work…

  47. So says you, but the prestige media hasn’t given up on it yet.

    Then they’re lying on purpose. Call them on it.

  48. @Buffalo Joe
    When it comes to hate hoaxes rarely do we see "innocence prevailed." Ask the Covington boys or the Duke lacrosse team.

    When it comes to hate hoaxes rarely do we see “innocence prevailed.” Ask the Covington boys or the Duke lacrosse team.

    Smollett may be worth a lawsuit, though. If there were anyone to file it.

  49. Daily Mail is Mean:

    JUSSIE SMOLLETT COULD GET 3 YEARS IN PRISON FOR FILING A FALSE REPORT TO POLICE

  50. What kind of charges might Smollet be facing?

  51. @candid_observer
    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.

    At least Jackie required a little detective work and insight to see through her story. It was satisfying to see it turn to garbage because you had to use your brain and common sense to poke the holes.

    There's no challenge in this one.

    Better Trolls, please.

    At least Jackie required a little detective work and insight to see through her story.

    Nah. Jackie’s ‘rape,’ as described early in the article, was 100% laughable. It required no more research or serious debunking than a description of her being anally-probed by 9 polo-shirt-wearing preppie aliens would. Many on the right were mocking it well before the debunkings began. The article refuted itself, many, many times.

    Of course most of the people expressing e-outrage over the ridiculous events described in that piece probably didn’t actually read it. You could distill that story down to a 2 sentence summary that one could believe. A chick was gang raped at a party at UVA and everyone got away with it scot-free. In the Smollett case, though, there isn’t a solitary detail that any reasonable person should view with anything other than great skepticism. It is the deranged fantasy of an absolute moron.

  52. Sweet Jussie actually emotes quite convincingly, maybe he’ll earn some kind of prison drama award

  53. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    O/T

    While South Dakota’s current unemployment rate is less than 3 percent, the state’s labor participation rate is about 70 percent. The available workforce is really a lot higher than the low unemployment rate suggests.

    One underutilized pool of workers is the state’s young people. The percentage of 16-to 19-year-olds in the workforce has dropped significantly in the last decade, and the number of 20 to 24-year-olds in the workforce is also lower than it used to be.

    Another underutilized labor resource is the state’s Native American population. South Dakota’s Native American workforce participation rate is less than 50 percent, and the employment gap between Native Americans and whites is greater in South Dakota than in any other state.

    https://www.aberdeennews.com/news/opinion/columnists/marmorstein-need-workers-no-place-like-home/article_9cbb0b88-07e1-5c56-bfe7-a21e47cf640e.html

    A rare display of patriotism out of an academic.

  54. Next step here will be to criticize CPD as racist/homophobic for being skeptical of the story at all. Intrinsic bias and all the typical voodoo. Dude already doubled down and anyone still on his side won’t be backing away without a lot more deflection.

  55. Why are there comments after mine and mne is still awaiting approval…

  56. I predict there will be more hate hoaxes between now and November 2020, and the #LyingMSM will continue to believe that they prove whites are racist etc.

  57. The Crafty Beaver!!! Remember that MAGA means “victim of a hoax” in Nigerian pidgin. Why spend thousands of dollars to hire a couple of Nigerian juice head extras to carry out your “plot” when you could have just faked the whole thing by yourself? Why even buy a rope?

    This is the black gay version of Burn After Reading, but less believable and twice as dumb.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Didn't he know any white people he could hire, what with a million security cameras around? I know color blind casting is in, but Nigerian guys in plain red hats don't make convincing Trump supporters. And they couldn't go to Home Depot or a hardware store to get a good stout rope, they had to get some kind of ribbon at the craft store? This is not even the B Team.
    , @lynn
    If proven to be a hoax, how stupid and full of hate for Maga , white, or straight people can Smollett be to have the slightest inkling this would not be exposed. As this would surely have been a hate crime should it have been true, Smollett should be charged with a hate crime for trying to falsely accuse white, maga, or straight people.
  58. HoT Air reported that after the “attack,” Smollett deleted an anti-Trump post, but he left up this one:

    Jussie Smollett

    @JussieSmollett
    [email protected] is only speaking facts. This is so far beyond political party affiliation. Across the world…no matter the border…from sea to shining sea…45 and all his white hooded cohorts are a national disgrace. And if you support them…so are you. Clowns.

    1,944
    9:19 AM – Jan 20, 2019 · Chicago, IL

  59. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    Wanna say boom goes the dynamite with the CBS news story … but this guy Smollet is not going suffer for this. He will get a slap on the wrist and they will spin it as heroism in Hollywood.

    Jussie Smollett paid them to participate in alleged attack, source says

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jussie-smollett-case-brothers-say-empire-actor-paid-them-to-participate-in-alleged-attack-source-says-2019-02-16/

  60. Was there a mass shooting in Illinois yesterday?

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter
    There was but the shooter was black.

    Nothing to see here. Move on.
    , @Coag
    Yes, but the perpetrator was black, to the chagrin of those who were looking to memory hole the Jussie Smollett incident with a just in the nick of time mass shooting story.

    Between self-styled Gay Tupac's fake polar vortex lynching and the blackface and rape shenanigans plaguing Virginia's entire line of succession, our February is really shaping up to be one hell of a Black History Month.

    , @Jorge
    Yes, by a disgruntled black who shot mainly whites. Ho hum.
    , @Hypnotoad666

    Was there a mass shooting in Illinois yesterday?
     
    Yes, but they learned that the perp was black. So it's not newsworthy.
  61. @istevefan
    Was there a mass shooting in Illinois yesterday?

    There was but the shooter was black.

    Nothing to see here. Move on.

  62. Anonymous[732] • Disclaimer says:

    I doubt he’ll ever face a judge (let alone be convicted), or his career suffer.
    Surely no DA in America (let alone Chicago) is going to prosecute a gay black Jew in ‘the current year’ when the victim is ‘just’ that Hate Group known as The White Race.
    He’s Mr Teflon X 3.
    I don’t see how he can be written out of his show now- not if the writers ever want to work in Hollywood again.
    It’d be seen as giving a moral victory to Trump and ‘The Deplorables’ (and the cops).
    The producers would be twitter-mobbed/ad-boycotted.
    There’s just one way, as I see it, the show can kill off Smollett’s character now- by him getting lynched in Chicago just as Jussie described it.
    (The writers can show the white MAGA-hatters putting anti-freeze in the bleach to fill that plot hole, plus clad in t-shirts in the polar vortex temperatures for added realism in the eyes of black viewers.)
    This version then will become the one which fixes (propagated by the MSM) in the public’s mind, and over time, will be remembered as ‘based on true events’.
    Soon to appear at a multiplex near Mr Sailer: The Emmett Till Story (‘actor Jussie Smollett draws on his real-life experience as a victim of lynching to bring to life this long-forgotten incident’- NYT).

  63. Since the racist, MAGA-hat wearing white supremacist Tump supporters will not commit the racist hate crimes we know they want to commit, the hate crimes will have to be orchestrated.

  64. Chicago police believe Jussie Smollett PAID two Nigerian brothers $3,500 to ATTACK him on the street and they bought the rope found around the Empire star’s neck from a local hardware store
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

  65. @istevefan
    Was there a mass shooting in Illinois yesterday?

    Yes, but the perpetrator was black, to the chagrin of those who were looking to memory hole the Jussie Smollett incident with a just in the nick of time mass shooting story.

    Between self-styled Gay Tupac’s fake polar vortex lynching and the blackface and rape shenanigans plaguing Virginia’s entire line of succession, our February is really shaping up to be one hell of a Black History Month.

  66. • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    Tariq Nasheed is on Ed Buck Beat in WeHo.

    https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1096488502974328832
  67. @istevefan
    Was there a mass shooting in Illinois yesterday?

    Yes, by a disgruntled black who shot mainly whites. Ho hum.

  68. From a recently rejected episode of Chicago Justice :

    “For a single payment of $3.49,Crafty Beaver can get you the right ropes for your everyday hoax.

    Please be sure to use your credit card, and a native accent; but also don’t forget to flex your ebony bicepses while flashing your pearly cannines to the register cameras 1,2, and 3.

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  69. Anon[997] • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t forget the comical cut-out-letters hate mail sent to Empire being investigated by the FBI, who apparently now are joining the lynching investigation.

    http://www.cwbchicago.com/2019/02/2-out-smollett-at-plate-lakeview.html

    CWBChicago has learned that federal investigators sat in as Chicago police interrogated the Osundairo brothers for two days after the men were taken into custody at O’Hare airport on Wednesday evening. The Osundairos flew into the airport minutes earlier, returning from a trip to Nigeria that began hours after Smollett reported being attacked.

  70. @candid_observer
    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.

    At least Jackie required a little detective work and insight to see through her story. It was satisfying to see it turn to garbage because you had to use your brain and common sense to poke the holes.

    There's no challenge in this one.

    Better Trolls, please.

    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.

    But the transparent stupidity of this hoax is actually what’s significant about it.

    The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what’s left of their credibility once and for all.

    • Replies: @Cato

    The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what’s left of their credibility once and for all.
     
    No, no, no. You forget, they have the moral high ground: they hate white heterosexual Christian males more than you do. Their credibility remains intact.
    , @Jack D
    But it won't. It won't damage it one bit (at least with their supporters) and they know it, which is why they felt such immunity to make a big stink about something that was clearly doubtful from day 1. "Extremism in defense of anti-racism and anti-homophobia is no vice", as the old saying (sorta) goes.

    The credibility of organs like the NY Times is already in the toilet with Trump supporters and the Times feels that they have nothing left to lose on that front. It's more important to them to signal that they are on the side of the "good people" than that they print the truth anymore.
    , @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    Boomers still think 'credibility' matters. Do you know how Latin America operates? Africa? The Middle East? India? China? Those are the realities that are already in America. The 'truth' doesn't mean anything anymore. Your values are dead. It's a tragedy but it's already true. White liberals have embraced this as well. Whatever fits your agenda and worldview is what the truth is.
    , @Mr McKenna

    The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what’s left of their credibility once and for all.
     
    Yes, that's what some of us say each and every time this happens.
    , @Corvinus
    "The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what’s left of their credibility once and for all."

    Only until more information came out did it become more likely it was a hoax. So you are engaging in hindsight bias here. It is other than surprising that the Alt Right said "hoax" because it is like a reflex. What would have happened if this event turned out to be exactly what Smollet said? Would they (or you) admit they were dead wrong? OR, would there be a double down here? (Of course, the media should come out with a mea culpa and be more diligent in the future before making grand pronouncements about "hate crimes"). The fact is that the (D)'s ought to have been more mindful given our political and racial climate from jumping on this bandwagon.

    Do you think ALL or MOST of these "hate crimes" are "hoaxes"? If yes, how do you know for certain in EVERY or MOST cases? Please be specific.

    Of course, the lesson here is that the right and the left are quick to the draw to get out their narrative, with some saying "it's totally true" (without investigating or questioning it) and others saying "it's Fake News" (and not taking time to dig deeper into their potential confirmation bias).
  71. Haha. Sopan deb’s latest article helpfully points out that even trump fell for it. He is really working to get off the hook for this one.

  72. @istevefan
    Was there a mass shooting in Illinois yesterday?

    Was there a mass shooting in Illinois yesterday?

    Yes, but they learned that the perp was black. So it’s not newsworthy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It's actually true the Wayne's World shooter-- referred to as a "suspect" so I guess he was taken alive-- is indeed black, one Gary Montez Martin aged 46. Some news sources did publish his social media photo. Newsweek didn't do anything to identify him in an article somehow entitled, "Who Is Gary Martin," lol. The main interest of CNN, the most BLM/resentment-aligned of the TV nets, is gun control, gun control, gun control.
  73. Smollett is just another boring, run-of-the-mill sociopath. They always think they’re smarter than they are. Ironically, their fancy plans always unravel, for often comically stupid reasons, because they simply can’t begin to fathom how stupid they are. Thank goodness.

    Sociopaths are most often idiots.

  74. Anon[176] • Disclaimer says:

    Here’s a brief summary of the alleged incident, if I recall correctly:

    1. Gay black man goes out after dark in an upscale area of Chicago, claims he was assaulted by white MAGA hat wearing rubes who called him a n****r f****t.

    2. Assaulters apparently recognized the man despite victim being fairly obscure and primarily famous for staring in a black soap opera that MAGA types probably never watch.

    3. The alleged victim is on CCTV, and then leaves the FOV for 60 seconds and during this time he is allegedly assaulted. When the man reappears in the FOV, he has a noose on him, a phone in one hand, and a sandwich in another. He claims to have fought off his attackers … with his third arm?

    4. The assaulters just so happened to have bleach available to pour on this man. Bleach will freeze if put in a small container and left outside in sub 20F temperatures.

    5. Victim keeps noose around his neck for over an hour to emphasize that he … has a noose around his neck.

    6. Victim refuses to hand over his phone to the police. Victim gives police redacted list of calls he made. Missing phone records allegedly match two gay black men who worked with him on the show he starred in (they compared records between parties).

    7. Victim had previously been sent crushed Tylenol made to look like anthrax with a letter accompanying it – a letter written like something out of a Hollywood movie (magazine letter cutouts).

    8. Actress Ellen Page* embarrasses herself on the Stephen Colbert show by promoting this incident; attacks “Trump’s America (TM)”. Tries to divert attention with a lame attack on Chris Pratt’s church attendance (…but did she have anything to say about Obama’s church back when he ran for president?).

    9. Victim substantiates his claim by noting that he was on the phone with his manager when it happened, possibly opening the man to a conspiracy charge depending upon whether the incident was a hoax and what crimes are alleged to have occurred.

    9. Victim attacks reporter in an interview by stating, “you’d believe me if I said my attackers were black or Muslim.” His interview with said reporter later helps to identify two black gay co-workers as his supposed attackers. They are picked up and, rumor has it, immediately flipped on him.

    10. “Victim” lawyers up with a high-profile criminal defense attorney.

    11. Rumor has it that “persons of interest” were raided and bleach found.

    *My understanding is that Ellen Page is a Canadian. Assuming she does not have dual citizenship, are there any grounds for Trump deporting her over this incident? Lauren Southern was banned from the UK for racial incitement or some other nonsense. I can’t imagine that it’s okay for a foreigner to come over to this country and cause this kind of trouble without repercussion.

  75. • Replies: @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/WashNews/status/1096984596405719040
  76. @benjaminl
    OT

    Coalition of the fringes alert, sexual depravity edition

    https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-weho-sexual-scandal-protests-20190216-story.html

    Tariq Nasheed is on Ed Buck Beat in WeHo.

    • Replies: @Cato
    Click on his pic and take a look a Tariq... What a smug looking suit. The dude probably went to college. I mean, where else would he obtain his puritanical glare?
    , @RobUK
    A "suspected LGBT white supremacist"? I reckon that's the first time that phrase has ever been written (twice now).
    , @Oleaginous Outrager
    The council wants him to resign because "he's become a distraction". What valiant moral crusaders they are!
  77. @Buffalo Joe
    When it comes to hate hoaxes rarely do we see "innocence prevailed." Ask the Covington boys or the Duke lacrosse team.

    The lacrosse guys got a big wad of money. And no one remembers their names. Though fat lot of good that would have done them had Nifong succeeded in his trumped up charges against them. The Covington kids, or maybe Sandmann (what a name!), will probably pocket some dough, too.

  78. Not his day:

  79. The fact that he made up this story shows us how common Hate crimes are. Otherwise, why would have latched on to such a narrative if it wasn’t happening everywhere, all the time?

    We need to triple down on Diversity training.

  80. I think the reason CPD picked up on it was mainly because this Smollet guy was just a tad too high profile, and the caper was a bit too idiotic and transparent for the Chicago higher ups to sit this one out.

    In their minds, I think it was “screw what happens to random Dems running for president, I have to live in Chicago (or greater Ill.), and protect the little molehill I’ve made for myself.”

    Plus, with the FBI involved, and possible mail fraud involving the 50’s ransom note-type letter, the feds charging Smollet and CPD not doing so would have been bad for the local politicos.

  81. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/ABC7Chicago/status/1096981967210467329

  82. Were the Nigerian bros wearing MAGA hats?

  83. Anonymous[237] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosamond Vincy
    If he wanted publicity, why didn't his agent arrange the Fauxmance, complete with jealous scenes, feuding, songs with revenge lyrics, the reconciliation (with relevant bling on Instagram), etc.?
    Same soap opera effect, and nobody's going to investigate whether it's all fake.

    Have to agree– if any element of this was a publicity grab or distraction, why choose this way, when the fame game provides players with so many options (for a small fee)? Whatever happened to just getting yourself arrested protesting something? I guess the going-to-rehab gimmick has been exhausted.

    Very dim on the part of Smollett, who is not used to or out of the habit of thinking anything through.

  84. So, let the new MSM/Twittersphere takeaways begin: “The Real Story Is Even Worse Than The One Smollett Invented: Exposing This Hoax Will Only Embolden Actual Racists” and “Racists In Denial Are Using The Smollett Hoax As ‘Proof’ Racism Doesn’t Really Exist Which Only Proves How Racist They Truly Are” and “Smollett’s Background In Theater Inspired Him To Create A Brilliant Act Of Transgressive Performance Art” and etc. etc etc.

  85. @Clifford Brown
    https://twitter.com/CharlieDeMar/status/1096933982481117184

    The Crafty Beaver!!! Remember that MAGA means "victim of a hoax" in Nigerian pidgin. Why spend thousands of dollars to hire a couple of Nigerian juice head extras to carry out your "plot" when you could have just faked the whole thing by yourself? Why even buy a rope?

    This is the black gay version of Burn After Reading, but less believable and twice as dumb.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yl95hx6mcA

    Didn’t he know any white people he could hire, what with a million security cameras around? I know color blind casting is in, but Nigerian guys in plain red hats don’t make convincing Trump supporters. And they couldn’t go to Home Depot or a hardware store to get a good stout rope, they had to get some kind of ribbon at the craft store? This is not even the B Team.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    So the white-supremacist perps are two gay Nigerian bodybuilders wearing
    festive red hats from a local beauty supply emporium and armed with clothesline from
    the Crusty Beaver. Who said this dark little comedy was not well written?
    , @BenKenobi
    "In the current year +5 a crack unit of Nigerian bodybuilders was jailed for a hate crime they didn't commit. Today, still wanted by Twitter they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them -- you may need: The Gay Team."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MVonyVSQoM
    , @The Trypewriter of Hollywood
    I love it when a bad plan comes together - Hannibal Macguyver
    , @bomag

    Didn’t he know any white people he could hire
     
    Bingo.

    Even an admittance of hoaxing would have then been doubted by the usual purveyors of "news".

    And the White guys might have suggested he drop the sandwich, maybe tear his clothes, ham it up a little bit.
  86. Anonymous[237] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Was there a mass shooting in Illinois yesterday?
     
    Yes, but they learned that the perp was black. So it's not newsworthy.

    It’s actually true the Wayne’s World shooter– referred to as a “suspect” so I guess he was taken alive– is indeed black, one Gary Montez Martin aged 46. Some news sources did publish his social media photo. Newsweek didn’t do anything to identify him in an article somehow entitled, “Who Is Gary Martin,” lol. The main interest of CNN, the most BLM/resentment-aligned of the TV nets, is gun control, gun control, gun control.

  87. @Jack D
    Didn't he know any white people he could hire, what with a million security cameras around? I know color blind casting is in, but Nigerian guys in plain red hats don't make convincing Trump supporters. And they couldn't go to Home Depot or a hardware store to get a good stout rope, they had to get some kind of ribbon at the craft store? This is not even the B Team.

    So the white-supremacist perps are two gay Nigerian bodybuilders wearing
    festive red hats from a local beauty supply emporium and armed with clothesline from
    the Crusty Beaver. Who said this dark little comedy was not well written?

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    Apparently, Smollett just read for the lead in Take Me Out, a Tony-winning play about a black, gay, baseball player who is bullied by teammates.

    I guess we should be glad he didn't read for the title character in a remake of The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T. Lord only knows what form his inspiration would have taken.
  88. Al Sharpton could not be reached for comment

  89. @Buffalo Joe
    When it comes to hate hoaxes rarely do we see "innocence prevailed." Ask the Covington boys or the Duke lacrosse team.

    Innocence did prevail in the Duke case. The prosecutor was disbarred and the boys collected MILLIONS from Duke.

    The Covington boys probably have big settlements coming too. I wouldn’t want to be the insurance company of all the folks who libeled them on Twitter. They were not public figures when this started so the bar for libel is much lower.

    • Replies: @Paul
    Insurance does not cover intentional torts. Courts do not want to encourage intentional misbehavior.
    , @anon1
    Do you have a source for that? The Duke boys collecting millions? I hope those Covington kids get big bucks too. I especially hope those TV and Hollywood "celebrity" punks get bled white (no pun intended) by them.
    , @Oleaginous Outrager
    And it only took a failed attempted murder prosecution and a successful one for murder to finally put the lying whore in jail.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Jack, Yes, you are correct in the disbarment and the settlement but, the Duke Lax coach was fired and the whole team, with a legit shot at a National Championship, saw their season cancelled. The three accused players were tossed from Duke and still have that stain. You know what really pisses me off is that few people know that the accuser, Crystal Mangum, is in jail for knifing her boy friend to death. Moral of the story, don't bring trash into your house.
  90. @Hypnotoad666

    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.
     
    But the transparent stupidity of this hoax is actually what's significant about it.

    The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what's left of their credibility once and for all.

    The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what’s left of their credibility once and for all.

    No, no, no. You forget, they have the moral high ground: they hate white heterosexual Christian males more than you do. Their credibility remains intact.

  91. @Clifford Brown
    Tariq Nasheed is on Ed Buck Beat in WeHo.

    https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1096488502974328832

    Click on his pic and take a look a Tariq… What a smug looking suit. The dude probably went to college. I mean, where else would he obtain his puritanical glare?

  92. We’re these guys from the Ibo,the smart Nigerians Amy Chua talked about,or just regular guys who make the giant stacks of poop?
    They don’t seem like Ibo to me.

  93. @Jack D
    Innocence did prevail in the Duke case. The prosecutor was disbarred and the boys collected MILLIONS from Duke.

    The Covington boys probably have big settlements coming too. I wouldn't want to be the insurance company of all the folks who libeled them on Twitter. They were not public figures when this started so the bar for libel is much lower.

    Insurance does not cover intentional torts. Courts do not want to encourage intentional misbehavior.

  94. @Jack D
    Didn't he know any white people he could hire, what with a million security cameras around? I know color blind casting is in, but Nigerian guys in plain red hats don't make convincing Trump supporters. And they couldn't go to Home Depot or a hardware store to get a good stout rope, they had to get some kind of ribbon at the craft store? This is not even the B Team.

    “In the current year +5 a crack unit of Nigerian bodybuilders was jailed for a hate crime they didn’t commit. Today, still wanted by Twitter they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them — you may need: The Gay Team.”

  95. @Jack D
    Didn't he know any white people he could hire, what with a million security cameras around? I know color blind casting is in, but Nigerian guys in plain red hats don't make convincing Trump supporters. And they couldn't go to Home Depot or a hardware store to get a good stout rope, they had to get some kind of ribbon at the craft store? This is not even the B Team.

    I love it when a bad plan comes together – Hannibal Macguyver

  96. @Harry Baldwin
    So says you, but the prestige media hasn't given up on it yet.

    No, today is the tipping point. Sure there will be holdouts – Jessica Valenti STILL thinks that Jackie was raped on broken glass, but it’s pretty much the end now.

    Why is it that a bunch of yahoos like us could smell the hoax a mile away from the very first second but a whole bunch of esteemed journalists and politicians rushed to say that they believed him and to condemn this vicious racist Trumpist attack, yada, yada? Didn’t they have a clue? Are they really that gullible? Some of their followers are, but are these folks who are serious Presidential contenders really that dumb?

    I think the answer is no – they knew that they could get away with it. That they could score points in the short run by sympathizing with this “victim” and that later when the hoax fell apart they could feign innocence – it’s like “believe women” – we should always give the victim the benefit of the doubt. This was even better than the Duke case or Covington where if you had an ounce of morals it would bother you that some innocent boys were being railroaded (not that this stopped a lot of people). This was another Haven Monahan type attack – it’s easy to hate on a fictional character. Orwell (who was so prescient it’s scary) understood this with Emmanuel Goldstein. He didn’t steal that plot line from the Communists – Trotsky was a real person.

    Now that it’s all going to hell, they will say that it’s unfortunate that Jussie fooled them but we were all taught an important lesson that we must never tolerate hate, etc. No price will be paid at all, except by Jussie. Jackie was smart enough NEVER to talk to the cops, but Jussie talked plenty and he is going down for filing a false police report, etc.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @Moses

    Why is it that a bunch of yahoos like us could smell the hoax a mile away from the very first second but a whole bunch of esteemed journalists and politicians rushed to say that they believed him and to condemn this vicious racist Trumpist attack, yada, yada? Didn’t they have a clue? Are they really that gullible?
     
    You are so adorable Jack D. You must believe in faeries and Santa Claus too.

    I hate to tell you this because your world of imagination is far better than the real world. But here goes:

    "Esteemed journalists" aren't interested in truth. They are interested in advancing the narrative, demonizing Whites and grabbing power and gibs. "Truth" got nuttin' to do with it.

    "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot of color stamping on a White face - forever."

    , @Guy De Champlagne
    Why is it that a bunch of yahoos like us could smell the hoax a mile away from the very first second but a whole bunch of esteemed journalists and politicians rushed to say that they believed him and to condemn this vicious racist Trumpist attack, yada, yada? Didn’t they have a clue? Are they really that gullible? Some of their followers are, but are these folks who are serious Presidential contenders really that dumb?

    The question is why the Yahoos on here are too stupid to support the systemic reforms of the media and Universities that would fix the problem. How dumb do you have to be to be worked up into a tizzy by the actions of giant corporations and have that channeled into supporting a political party that believes regulating those industries is morally reprehensible. One of the first things Trump did was remove fcc regulations that require television stations to have local news operations, further geographically concentrating the media in areas where anti male, anti white, and anti Christian bigotry are highest. The average liberal reporter in bumfuck nowhere is more on my side than the average conservative one in new York or DC. No contest. And this is a man that ran against the media more than anyone since at least Nixon.

    Everyone is too stupid to see what a betrayal that was because they're too stupid to see that it's huge businesses causing the problem to begin with (ditto for all the other big reasons people supported Trump).

    The people that support these hoaxes are at least smart enough to understand where their interests lie and are capable of organizing around them. Can you imagine if anti white forces organized around these hoaxes and then supported candidates that removed affirmative action or allowed whites to keep blacks out of their neighborhoods and schools? That's what the dummies on here do. That's real stupidity. And plenty of Smolletts supporters are just pretending which makes the intelligence gap even more extreme.

    , @Mr McKenna

    No price will be paid at all, except by Jussie.
     
    Jussie managed to make himself world-famous. That's sort of useful in the world of entertainment. No one will pay a price except the taxpayers of Chicago and Illinois, and perhaps lovers of truth, wherever they may be. Because once again, millions willfully chose the other way.
  97. @Hypnotoad666

    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.
     
    But the transparent stupidity of this hoax is actually what's significant about it.

    The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what's left of their credibility once and for all.

    But it won’t. It won’t damage it one bit (at least with their supporters) and they know it, which is why they felt such immunity to make a big stink about something that was clearly doubtful from day 1. “Extremism in defense of anti-racism and anti-homophobia is no vice”, as the old saying (sorta) goes.

    The credibility of organs like the NY Times is already in the toilet with Trump supporters and the Times feels that they have nothing left to lose on that front. It’s more important to them to signal that they are on the side of the “good people” than that they print the truth anymore.

    • Agree: ACommenter
    • Replies: @res

    the Times feels that they have nothing left to lose on that front.
     
    That is true, but I think they underestimate the ammunition they are providing towards the verdict of history. I wish there was some way I could read the history of all of this to be written a hundred years from now.
  98. I’ll buck the trend here and try to offer some kind advice to a guy who’s obviously very young and very naive:

    1 . Make a public statement that what you did was inexcusable, period. (don’t say anything about real violence against gays and blacks, don’t say you were high or sleepy or that your intentions were noble).

    2 Negotiate a plea with the state’s attorney so you don’t do any jail time, and give a nice fat donation to the police and maybe to some noncontroversial Chicago charity.

    3 Ask Robin Roberts for a second interview where she can ask you the hard questions that she didn’t ask you the first time. When she grills you and says how betrayed she feels, take it like a man. Say “I painted myself into a corner and I just didn’t know how to get myself out. I’m sorry.”

    4. Avoid making any political or social justice statements, for a long, long, long time. You have zero credibility, dude. Focus on your work, if you still have a job.

    • Replies: @black sea
    That's good advice, but the kind of person who would take that advice isn't the kind of person who would land himself in this situation to begin with.
  99. Overshoot, also known as the Road Runner Theory in Economics, Sociology and Political Satire, says that even after a tipping point has been reached, momentum continues to steer lemmings towards the cliff.

    Are we witness to the Overshoot of Hate Hoaxes.

    Have negroes in this country reached Peak Victim?

  100. Jussie and Nigerians. It’s like chimp and gorillas on Planet of the Apes.

  101. @Jack D
    Innocence did prevail in the Duke case. The prosecutor was disbarred and the boys collected MILLIONS from Duke.

    The Covington boys probably have big settlements coming too. I wouldn't want to be the insurance company of all the folks who libeled them on Twitter. They were not public figures when this started so the bar for libel is much lower.

    Do you have a source for that? The Duke boys collecting millions? I hope those Covington kids get big bucks too. I especially hope those TV and Hollywood “celebrity” punks get bled white (no pun intended) by them.

    • Replies: @res
    I'd like to see a source too. I'm having trouble finding anything beyond the lawsuit against Duke being settled with confidential terms: https://web.archive.org/web/20141107194521/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-28/duke-university-lacrosse-players-end-lawsuit-against-school.html

    But then there is this: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1360822/Were-Duke-lacrosse-players-wrongly-accused-rape-paid-20MILLION-secret-settlement.html
  102. @Hypnotoad666

    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.
     
    But the transparent stupidity of this hoax is actually what's significant about it.

    The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what's left of their credibility once and for all.

    Boomers still think ‘credibility’ matters. Do you know how Latin America operates? Africa? The Middle East? India? China? Those are the realities that are already in America. The ‘truth’ doesn’t mean anything anymore. Your values are dead. It’s a tragedy but it’s already true. White liberals have embraced this as well. Whatever fits your agenda and worldview is what the truth is.

  103. Very specific CPD leak: Smollett paid NigerBros $3500, rehearsed the attack with them, locations of hat and rope purchases.

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/16/sources-brothers-released-bought-rope-used-in-jussie-smollett-attack/amp/

    Book ’em!!!!

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    CHICAGO (CBS) — Jussie Smollett paid two brothers to stage an attack against him, directed them to buy items used in the alleged assault and actually rehearsed it with them, sources say.

    Sources say at least one of the brothers bought the rope used in the incident at Smollett’s request. The sources also say the “Empire” actor paid for the rope, which was purchased at the Crafty Beaver Hardware Store in the Ravenswood neighborhood the weekend of Jan. 25.

    The brothers, who were questioned by police this week before being released, were paid $3,500 before leaving for Nigeria and were promised an additional $500 upon their return.

    They left for Nigeria later in the day on Jan. 29, after the attack.

    Sources said one of the brothers held the rope and poured bleach while the other wore a plain red hat and yelled slurs at Smollett.

    The sources say the red hat was bought at an Uptown beauty supply store and that the attack was supposed to happen before Jan. 29. The brothers told detectives the three men rehearsed the attack days prior to it happening.

    Smollett claims two men attacked him in Streeterville early Jan. 29 as he was heading to his apartment. He said they yelled racial and homophobic slurs at him, poured a chemical on him and put a rope around his neck.

    RELATED What You Need To Know About The Jussie Smollett Investigation | Potential Evidence Found Amid Investigation Into Jussie Smollett’s Attack | ‘Empire’ Actor Jussie Smollett Orchestrated Attack, Source Says

    The brothers are now cooperating with police.

    Since being released Friday night, the brothers have been staying in an undisclosed location.

    Chicago police spokesperson Anthony Guglielmi said:

    “We can confirm that the information received from the individuals questioned by police earlier in the Empire case has in fact shifted the trajectory of the investigation. We’ve reached out to the Empire cast member’s attorney to request a follow-up interview.”

    Police raided the the brothers’ home on Wednesday, the same day police met them at O’Hare International Airport, as they were returning from Nigeria.
     
    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/16/sources-brothers-released-bought-rope-used-in-jussie-smollett-attack/amp/

    Who are these "sources", I wonder?
    Probably pissed off cops.
    , @International Jew
    Ouch, another bad break for Jussie! He's misplayed this every step of the way. His half-Jewish DNA must not have included any intelligence genes.
  104. @Jack D
    No, today is the tipping point. Sure there will be holdouts - Jessica Valenti STILL thinks that Jackie was raped on broken glass, but it's pretty much the end now.

    Why is it that a bunch of yahoos like us could smell the hoax a mile away from the very first second but a whole bunch of esteemed journalists and politicians rushed to say that they believed him and to condemn this vicious racist Trumpist attack, yada, yada? Didn't they have a clue? Are they really that gullible? Some of their followers are, but are these folks who are serious Presidential contenders really that dumb?

    I think the answer is no - they knew that they could get away with it. That they could score points in the short run by sympathizing with this "victim" and that later when the hoax fell apart they could feign innocence - it's like "believe women" - we should always give the victim the benefit of the doubt. This was even better than the Duke case or Covington where if you had an ounce of morals it would bother you that some innocent boys were being railroaded (not that this stopped a lot of people). This was another Haven Monahan type attack - it's easy to hate on a fictional character. Orwell (who was so prescient it's scary) understood this with Emmanuel Goldstein. He didn't steal that plot line from the Communists - Trotsky was a real person.

    Now that it's all going to hell, they will say that it's unfortunate that Jussie fooled them but we were all taught an important lesson that we must never tolerate hate, etc. No price will be paid at all, except by Jussie. Jackie was smart enough NEVER to talk to the cops, but Jussie talked plenty and he is going down for filing a false police report, etc.

    Why is it that a bunch of yahoos like us could smell the hoax a mile away from the very first second but a whole bunch of esteemed journalists and politicians rushed to say that they believed him and to condemn this vicious racist Trumpist attack, yada, yada? Didn’t they have a clue? Are they really that gullible?

    You are so adorable Jack D. You must believe in faeries and Santa Claus too.

    I hate to tell you this because your world of imagination is far better than the real world. But here goes:

    “Esteemed journalists” aren’t interested in truth. They are interested in advancing the narrative, demonizing Whites and grabbing power and gibs. “Truth” got nuttin’ to do with it.

    “If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot of color stamping on a White face – forever.”

  105. @Jack D
    No, today is the tipping point. Sure there will be holdouts - Jessica Valenti STILL thinks that Jackie was raped on broken glass, but it's pretty much the end now.

    Why is it that a bunch of yahoos like us could smell the hoax a mile away from the very first second but a whole bunch of esteemed journalists and politicians rushed to say that they believed him and to condemn this vicious racist Trumpist attack, yada, yada? Didn't they have a clue? Are they really that gullible? Some of their followers are, but are these folks who are serious Presidential contenders really that dumb?

    I think the answer is no - they knew that they could get away with it. That they could score points in the short run by sympathizing with this "victim" and that later when the hoax fell apart they could feign innocence - it's like "believe women" - we should always give the victim the benefit of the doubt. This was even better than the Duke case or Covington where if you had an ounce of morals it would bother you that some innocent boys were being railroaded (not that this stopped a lot of people). This was another Haven Monahan type attack - it's easy to hate on a fictional character. Orwell (who was so prescient it's scary) understood this with Emmanuel Goldstein. He didn't steal that plot line from the Communists - Trotsky was a real person.

    Now that it's all going to hell, they will say that it's unfortunate that Jussie fooled them but we were all taught an important lesson that we must never tolerate hate, etc. No price will be paid at all, except by Jussie. Jackie was smart enough NEVER to talk to the cops, but Jussie talked plenty and he is going down for filing a false police report, etc.

    Why is it that a bunch of yahoos like us could smell the hoax a mile away from the very first second but a whole bunch of esteemed journalists and politicians rushed to say that they believed him and to condemn this vicious racist Trumpist attack, yada, yada? Didn’t they have a clue? Are they really that gullible? Some of their followers are, but are these folks who are serious Presidential contenders really that dumb?

    The question is why the Yahoos on here are too stupid to support the systemic reforms of the media and Universities that would fix the problem. How dumb do you have to be to be worked up into a tizzy by the actions of giant corporations and have that channeled into supporting a political party that believes regulating those industries is morally reprehensible. One of the first things Trump did was remove fcc regulations that require television stations to have local news operations, further geographically concentrating the media in areas where anti male, anti white, and anti Christian bigotry are highest. The average liberal reporter in bumfuck nowhere is more on my side than the average conservative one in new York or DC. No contest. And this is a man that ran against the media more than anyone since at least Nixon.

    Everyone is too stupid to see what a betrayal that was because they’re too stupid to see that it’s huge businesses causing the problem to begin with (ditto for all the other big reasons people supported Trump).

    The people that support these hoaxes are at least smart enough to understand where their interests lie and are capable of organizing around them. Can you imagine if anti white forces organized around these hoaxes and then supported candidates that removed affirmative action or allowed whites to keep blacks out of their neighborhoods and schools? That’s what the dummies on here do. That’s real stupidity. And plenty of Smolletts supporters are just pretending which makes the intelligence gap even more extreme.

  106. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    Very specific CPD leak: Smollett paid NigerBros $3500, rehearsed the attack with them, locations of hat and rope purchases.

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/16/sources-brothers-released-bought-rope-used-in-jussie-smollett-attack/amp/

    Book 'em!!!!

    CHICAGO (CBS) — Jussie Smollett paid two brothers to stage an attack against him, directed them to buy items used in the alleged assault and actually rehearsed it with them, sources say.

    Sources say at least one of the brothers bought the rope used in the incident at Smollett’s request. The sources also say the “Empire” actor paid for the rope, which was purchased at the Crafty Beaver Hardware Store in the Ravenswood neighborhood the weekend of Jan. 25.

    The brothers, who were questioned by police this week before being released, were paid $3,500 before leaving for Nigeria and were promised an additional $500 upon their return.

    They left for Nigeria later in the day on Jan. 29, after the attack.

    Sources said one of the brothers held the rope and poured bleach while the other wore a plain red hat and yelled slurs at Smollett.

    The sources say the red hat was bought at an Uptown beauty supply store and that the attack was supposed to happen before Jan. 29. The brothers told detectives the three men rehearsed the attack days prior to it happening.

    Smollett claims two men attacked him in Streeterville early Jan. 29 as he was heading to his apartment. He said they yelled racial and homophobic slurs at him, poured a chemical on him and put a rope around his neck.

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    The brothers are now cooperating with police.

    Since being released Friday night, the brothers have been staying in an undisclosed location.

    Chicago police spokesperson Anthony Guglielmi said:

    “We can confirm that the information received from the individuals questioned by police earlier in the Empire case has in fact shifted the trajectory of the investigation. We’ve reached out to the Empire cast member’s attorney to request a follow-up interview.”

    Police raided the the brothers’ home on Wednesday, the same day police met them at O’Hare International Airport, as they were returning from Nigeria.

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/16/sources-brothers-released-bought-rope-used-in-jussie-smollett-attack/amp/

    Who are these “sources”, I wonder?
    Probably pissed off cops.

  107. Smollett’s story was infantile and moronic from the start . He was only treated so gently because of the very identity he claims makes him a target. Unhappy or unsatisfied with two promising careers and near universal MSM acceptance he chose to vilify a group of people he more than likely has little to no actual experience with . I’d venture to guess the average Trump supporter was completely ignorant of his existence until this hate hoax was sprung. He makes more per episode than 90% of Trump supporters make annually and that wasn’t enough. I didn’t hate this charlatan before this hoax and I don’t hate him now but it’s clear how he feels about the average white American ( that smirk) that haunts his mind. I’ve seen theories that Kamala Harris May have,in some way motivated Smollett to pull off this charade ….what’s sad is given the behavior of this ‘coalition of the fringes’ one cannot entirely dismiss this idea. As for the MSM it’s on to the next…

    • Agree: South Texas Guy
  108. If you’re a cop and you run into a “victim” who’s trying to limit your access to evidence, the alarm bells have to be ringing. I’ll bet the officers were pretty sure the whole thing was fake within hours of the report. Smollett was too stupid to dream up assailants and used real people who could be run down, which must have the cops them jumping for joy – it was only a matter of time before they could prove it was a hoax.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    . I’ll bet the officers were pretty sure the whole thing was fake within hours of the report.
     
    Dude, the fraud was instantly obvious to anyone who deals with crime and criminals even tangentially, for reasons that have been restated billions of times. The cops only pretended to take the case seriously because this asshole is famous.
  109. @Jack D
    No, today is the tipping point. Sure there will be holdouts - Jessica Valenti STILL thinks that Jackie was raped on broken glass, but it's pretty much the end now.

    Why is it that a bunch of yahoos like us could smell the hoax a mile away from the very first second but a whole bunch of esteemed journalists and politicians rushed to say that they believed him and to condemn this vicious racist Trumpist attack, yada, yada? Didn't they have a clue? Are they really that gullible? Some of their followers are, but are these folks who are serious Presidential contenders really that dumb?

    I think the answer is no - they knew that they could get away with it. That they could score points in the short run by sympathizing with this "victim" and that later when the hoax fell apart they could feign innocence - it's like "believe women" - we should always give the victim the benefit of the doubt. This was even better than the Duke case or Covington where if you had an ounce of morals it would bother you that some innocent boys were being railroaded (not that this stopped a lot of people). This was another Haven Monahan type attack - it's easy to hate on a fictional character. Orwell (who was so prescient it's scary) understood this with Emmanuel Goldstein. He didn't steal that plot line from the Communists - Trotsky was a real person.

    Now that it's all going to hell, they will say that it's unfortunate that Jussie fooled them but we were all taught an important lesson that we must never tolerate hate, etc. No price will be paid at all, except by Jussie. Jackie was smart enough NEVER to talk to the cops, but Jussie talked plenty and he is going down for filing a false police report, etc.

    No price will be paid at all, except by Jussie.

    Jussie managed to make himself world-famous. That’s sort of useful in the world of entertainment. No one will pay a price except the taxpayers of Chicago and Illinois, and perhaps lovers of truth, wherever they may be. Because once again, millions willfully chose the other way.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    To me, the most surprising aspect of this fraud is that cops in Chicago -- Rahm Emanuel's Chicago -- can get away with exposing it. Or will they?
    , @Pericles
    Perhaps Smollett should make a public apology to Whites and MAGA people for his disgusting and hateful actions? It seems difficult to forgive him otherwise, or forget.

    He was actually acting worse than I imagined -- to me, it looked like Grindr depravity gone wrong, but it turned out to be preplanned blood libel. What a character.
  110. @Hypnotoad666

    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.
     
    But the transparent stupidity of this hoax is actually what's significant about it.

    The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what's left of their credibility once and for all.

    The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what’s left of their credibility once and for all.

    Yes, that’s what some of us say each and every time this happens.

  111. @candid_observer
    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.

    At least Jackie required a little detective work and insight to see through her story. It was satisfying to see it turn to garbage because you had to use your brain and common sense to poke the holes.

    There's no challenge in this one.

    Better Trolls, please.

    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.

    At least Jackie required a little detective work and insight to see through her story.

    We never heard Jackie’s story.

    But it was almost immediately obvious that Rubin Erdely’s story was false. And when I say “almost immediately”, I am saying that the “medium” was less than 30 seconds.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna

    We never heard Jackie’s story.
     
    Incredible that anyone would say that. We heard little else for several weeks. Yes, much of it was mediated by Sabrina, but we also heard directly from her friends and others in the Women's Center at the University. "Jackie's story" was broadcast worldwide. Do you need to hear the lies from the woman's own lips? Ain't gonna happen.

    The story we haven't heard is Haven's. Still waiting on that.

  112. Telling that the MSM gives days of front-page coverage to the latest anti-white hoax but can’t be bothered to note mass killings of white people by blacks at the very same time. With prohibited guns, no less–yet another implication they don’t want to touch.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6712469/Intern-day-work-five-slain-victims-workplace-shooting.html

    More fun stuff:

    White Christian missionary dared to invade third-world tropical islands and it’s reported without irony: What’s missing from this scenario is *consent* — yes indeed, you shouldn’t invade other people’s lands *without their consent.* If you’re white, we mean.

    https://thewalrus.ca/where-not-to-travel-in-2019-or-ever/

    BTW, the guy was an idiot at the very least. I don’t mourn him.

    Last but not least, White Mexicans vs Amerind Mexicans. Roma??!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6712523/Roma-actress-says-proud-roots-fellow-actor-uses-racial-slur.html

  113. This case will be a lesson to future hoaxers of what not to do. I expect better, more sophisticated high-profile hoaxes in the future.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Most are too stupid to learn. It doesn't matter.

    Deligitimating the Backward and the other MSM outlets should be our goal, but given the sheer stupidity of the masses, it's a tough one to achieve.
  114. Who done it to Smollet???

  115. @ben tillman

    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.

    At least Jackie required a little detective work and insight to see through her story.
     

    We never heard Jackie's story.

    But it was almost immediately obvious that Rubin Erdely's story was false. And when I say "almost immediately", I am saying that the "medium" was less than 30 seconds.

    We never heard Jackie’s story.

    Incredible that anyone would say that. We heard little else for several weeks. Yes, much of it was mediated by Sabrina, but we also heard directly from her friends and others in the Women’s Center at the University. “Jackie’s story” was broadcast worldwide. Do you need to hear the lies from the woman’s own lips? Ain’t gonna happen.

    The story we haven’t heard is Haven’s. Still waiting on that.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    Listen to you! We heard Jackie's story "directly from her friends and others in the Women’s Center at the University."

    That is not what "directly" means. And, of course, we never heard even that, as their reports were reported by other media, making then at least double hearsay.

  116. An underappreciated aspect of this story is that Smollet is a light-skinned, uppity-demeanored gay guy, who does not garner sympathy within the black community. He’s not some popular NFL player that beat up a mouthy groupie.

    Left-leaning cable news, which increasingly relies on black viewers, will likely cover this from a celebrity-gossip angle, as opposed to memory-holing it. What Jussie on drugs? Did someone on Empire put him up to this? You can already see the gears turning at CNN.

    If Chicago police file charges, this story will be in the news for a while.

  117. The theory that this hoax was perpetrated to provide an issue for Kamala Harris is quite plausible:

  118. So it turns out Kamala’s anti-lynching bill just passed the Senate two days ago…

    While discussing the bill, Booker cited the recent reported attack in Chicago against actor Jussie Smollett of Empire fame and said that “lynching is not a relic of the past.”

    https://www.theroot.com/senate-passes-bill-that-makes-lynching-a-federal-crime-1832648806

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Thanks, I'll post.
  119. @tsotha
    If you're a cop and you run into a "victim" who's trying to limit your access to evidence, the alarm bells have to be ringing. I'll bet the officers were pretty sure the whole thing was fake within hours of the report. Smollett was too stupid to dream up assailants and used real people who could be run down, which must have the cops them jumping for joy - it was only a matter of time before they could prove it was a hoax.

    . I’ll bet the officers were pretty sure the whole thing was fake within hours of the report.

    Dude, the fraud was instantly obvious to anyone who deals with crime and criminals even tangentially, for reasons that have been restated billions of times. The cops only pretended to take the case seriously because this asshole is famous.

  120. @Lot
    Very specific CPD leak: Smollett paid NigerBros $3500, rehearsed the attack with them, locations of hat and rope purchases.

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/16/sources-brothers-released-bought-rope-used-in-jussie-smollett-attack/amp/

    Book 'em!!!!

    Ouch, another bad break for Jussie! He’s misplayed this every step of the way. His half-Jewish DNA must not have included any intelligence genes.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @BB753
    Well, he can still play the Jewish card! Antisemitism, I tell you!
    , @Realist

    Ouch, another bad break for Jussie! He’s misplayed this every step of the way. His half-Jewish DNA must not have included any intelligence genes.
     
    His half Jewish intelligence genes were eaten by the other half.
    , @Bill Jones
    Ah, the worst of both worlds, Jewish arrogance, black stupidity.
  121. International Jew:

    I agree with you completely regarding Jussie’s dearth of intelligence genes (Jewish variety). But I deferred to you as a member of the Tribe to make the cogent comment. Thanks!

  122. The New York Times (secret motto: All the News That Fits the Narrative) has suddenly dropped the Jussie Smollett story.

    Most of the fake-news activity in the mainstream press is actually fact-selection rather than fact-distortion. So the New York Times was careful to repeatedly quote Jussie Smollett rather than present a balanced picture, and now that he has gone very quiet, they have too. Shame on them; it was a good paper for many decades.

    • Replies: @ACommenter

    shame on them; it was a good paper for many decades.
     
    when? When they were covering up the Ukraine famine?
    or colluding with co-ethnics distributors to put the Herald-Tribune out of business which used to call out its agenda driven BS?
    , @Corvinus
    "The New York Times (secret motto: All the News That Fits the Narrative) has suddenly dropped the Jussie Smollett story."

    Not quite.

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/02/17/us/ap-us-empire-cast-member-attack.html

    Now, we shall see how the NYT proceeds. Will they issue some sort of "mea culpa" and have a story about the need to be more diligent in how such incidents are reported? OR, will they simply let this story "die off"?

    Regardless, the fact of the matter is that actual "hate crimes" are committed in our nation--even though I am not personally a fan of this legal designation--and that this hoax does not mean that any, all, or most of these crimes are also hoaxes. It's called look at matters on a case by case basis.
  123. The next hate hoax will be Redneck MAGA voters with Mississippi accents saying Hawaii is MAGA Country so go back to Ching Chong China Mazie Hirono.

  124. I know a lot more about Black pop culture than the average Trump voter, but even I have never heard of Jussie Smollett before this hate hoax occurred. I’m familiar with Empire, but since I have never actually seen a single episode of it the only cast members of the show I could name was Taraji P. Henson and Terrence Howard.

    Off the top of my head I can name more cast members from Good Times than I can from Empire.

    To me John Amos and Jimmie Walker were way more famous than Jussie Smollett before this hate hoax transpired.

  125. I look forward to Smollett’s two accomplices also being charged, after they turned state’s evidence with no formal immunity.

    I feel no joy at them cluttering up America, though, even if only its jails.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    What are you going to charge them with? Did they give false statements to the police? Maybe a conspiracy charge, but you would have to prove that they knew Smollett was going to file a false police report.

    By all means deport them and blackball them from ever coming to the US again, but criminal charges are a bridge too far.
    , @Ibound1
    I have seen nothing about them being charged or deported. Soon enough they will be running for office and lecturing us on racism.
  126. @Clifford Brown
    Tariq Nasheed is on Ed Buck Beat in WeHo.

    https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1096488502974328832

    A “suspected LGBT white supremacist”? I reckon that’s the first time that phrase has ever been written (twice now).

  127. @International Jew
    Ouch, another bad break for Jussie! He's misplayed this every step of the way. His half-Jewish DNA must not have included any intelligence genes.

    Well, he can still play the Jewish card! Antisemitism, I tell you!

    • LOL: Bubba
  128. @Jack D
    Didn't he know any white people he could hire, what with a million security cameras around? I know color blind casting is in, but Nigerian guys in plain red hats don't make convincing Trump supporters. And they couldn't go to Home Depot or a hardware store to get a good stout rope, they had to get some kind of ribbon at the craft store? This is not even the B Team.

    Didn’t he know any white people he could hire

    Bingo.

    Even an admittance of hoaxing would have then been doubted by the usual purveyors of “news”.

    And the White guys might have suggested he drop the sandwich, maybe tear his clothes, ham it up a little bit.

  129. @International Jew
    Ouch, another bad break for Jussie! He's misplayed this every step of the way. His half-Jewish DNA must not have included any intelligence genes.

    Ouch, another bad break for Jussie! He’s misplayed this every step of the way. His half-Jewish DNA must not have included any intelligence genes.

    His half Jewish intelligence genes were eaten by the other half.

  130. Here is what is so depressing about this particular case. The determination of the corrupt establishment (media, politicians, entertainment industry, e. g. Elizabeth Warren) to support the hoaxers, no matter how stupid, incompetent and obvious they are ensures that the number of hoaxes will escalate. And at some point we’ll be instructed by one of our most celebrated Diversity Priests, in the most compelling mumbo-jumbo that a post-modernist can summon, that those who make accusations of “fake hate crimes” are engaging in hate speech. Because, even if “it” didn’t happen, “in racist America, it could have happened.” The mere existence of us, “deplorables”, makes us guilty of whatever they say we are guilty of.

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2019/02/racism-its-time-to-repudiate-guilt.html

  131. @Jack D
    Innocence did prevail in the Duke case. The prosecutor was disbarred and the boys collected MILLIONS from Duke.

    The Covington boys probably have big settlements coming too. I wouldn't want to be the insurance company of all the folks who libeled them on Twitter. They were not public figures when this started so the bar for libel is much lower.

    And it only took a failed attempted murder prosecution and a successful one for murder to finally put the lying whore in jail.

  132. @Clifford Brown
    Tariq Nasheed is on Ed Buck Beat in WeHo.

    https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1096488502974328832

    The council wants him to resign because “he’s become a distraction”. What valiant moral crusaders they are!

  133. Subliminal mind is powerful. At first, I’ve read the title: Fake Nose Jews

  134. @Percy Gryce
    https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1096919646207381513

    They shoulda known he was bad news by just looking at his smirk.

  135. @Mr McKenna

    No price will be paid at all, except by Jussie.
     
    Jussie managed to make himself world-famous. That's sort of useful in the world of entertainment. No one will pay a price except the taxpayers of Chicago and Illinois, and perhaps lovers of truth, wherever they may be. Because once again, millions willfully chose the other way.

    To me, the most surprising aspect of this fraud is that cops in Chicago — Rahm Emanuel’s Chicago — can get away with exposing it. Or will they?

  136. @David
    I look forward to Smollett's two accomplices also being charged, after they turned state's evidence with no formal immunity.

    I feel no joy at them cluttering up America, though, even if only its jails.

    What are you going to charge them with? Did they give false statements to the police? Maybe a conspiracy charge, but you would have to prove that they knew Smollett was going to file a false police report.

    By all means deport them and blackball them from ever coming to the US again, but criminal charges are a bridge too far.

  137. @David
    I look forward to Smollett's two accomplices also being charged, after they turned state's evidence with no formal immunity.

    I feel no joy at them cluttering up America, though, even if only its jails.

    I have seen nothing about them being charged or deported. Soon enough they will be running for office and lecturing us on racism.

  138. @Peter Johnson
    The New York Times (secret motto: All the News That Fits the Narrative) has suddenly dropped the Jussie Smollett story.

    Most of the fake-news activity in the mainstream press is actually fact-selection rather than fact-distortion. So the New York Times was careful to repeatedly quote Jussie Smollett rather than present a balanced picture, and now that he has gone very quiet, they have too. Shame on them; it was a good paper for many decades.

    shame on them; it was a good paper for many decades.

    when? When they were covering up the Ukraine famine?
    or colluding with co-ethnics distributors to put the Herald-Tribune out of business which used to call out its agenda driven BS?

  139. @Jack D
    Innocence did prevail in the Duke case. The prosecutor was disbarred and the boys collected MILLIONS from Duke.

    The Covington boys probably have big settlements coming too. I wouldn't want to be the insurance company of all the folks who libeled them on Twitter. They were not public figures when this started so the bar for libel is much lower.

    Jack, Yes, you are correct in the disbarment and the settlement but, the Duke Lax coach was fired and the whole team, with a legit shot at a National Championship, saw their season cancelled. The three accused players were tossed from Duke and still have that stain. You know what really pisses me off is that few people know that the accuser, Crystal Mangum, is in jail for knifing her boy friend to death. Moral of the story, don’t bring trash into your house.

  140. @Jack D
    But it won't. It won't damage it one bit (at least with their supporters) and they know it, which is why they felt such immunity to make a big stink about something that was clearly doubtful from day 1. "Extremism in defense of anti-racism and anti-homophobia is no vice", as the old saying (sorta) goes.

    The credibility of organs like the NY Times is already in the toilet with Trump supporters and the Times feels that they have nothing left to lose on that front. It's more important to them to signal that they are on the side of the "good people" than that they print the truth anymore.

    the Times feels that they have nothing left to lose on that front.

    That is true, but I think they underestimate the ammunition they are providing towards the verdict of history. I wish there was some way I could read the history of all of this to be written a hundred years from now.

  141. Who in this world names their kid Jussie? It sounds like the name of a baby dinosaur in a Disney movie.

  142. @Mr McKenna

    No price will be paid at all, except by Jussie.
     
    Jussie managed to make himself world-famous. That's sort of useful in the world of entertainment. No one will pay a price except the taxpayers of Chicago and Illinois, and perhaps lovers of truth, wherever they may be. Because once again, millions willfully chose the other way.

    Perhaps Smollett should make a public apology to Whites and MAGA people for his disgusting and hateful actions? It seems difficult to forgive him otherwise, or forget.

    He was actually acting worse than I imagined — to me, it looked like Grindr depravity gone wrong, but it turned out to be preplanned blood libel. What a character.

  143. @International Jew
    Ouch, another bad break for Jussie! He's misplayed this every step of the way. His half-Jewish DNA must not have included any intelligence genes.

    Ah, the worst of both worlds, Jewish arrogance, black stupidity.

  144. @Hypnotoad666

    Unlike many hate hoaxes, this is just going to be anticlimatic. It was obvious from day 1 that it was going to fall apart.
     
    But the transparent stupidity of this hoax is actually what's significant about it.

    The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what's left of their credibility once and for all.

    “The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what’s left of their credibility once and for all.”

    Only until more information came out did it become more likely it was a hoax. So you are engaging in hindsight bias here. It is other than surprising that the Alt Right said “hoax” because it is like a reflex. What would have happened if this event turned out to be exactly what Smollet said? Would they (or you) admit they were dead wrong? OR, would there be a double down here? (Of course, the media should come out with a mea culpa and be more diligent in the future before making grand pronouncements about “hate crimes”). The fact is that the (D)’s ought to have been more mindful given our political and racial climate from jumping on this bandwagon.

    Do you think ALL or MOST of these “hate crimes” are “hoaxes”? If yes, how do you know for certain in EVERY or MOST cases? Please be specific.

    Of course, the lesson here is that the right and the left are quick to the draw to get out their narrative, with some saying “it’s totally true” (without investigating or questioning it) and others saying “it’s Fake News” (and not taking time to dig deeper into their potential confirmation bias).

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    Only until more information came out did it become more likely it was a hoax. So you are engaging in hindsight bias here.
     
    Zero hindsight bias here.

    May the court reporter please read back my posts from January 30, 2019 when the story was first reported . . . .

    @Mr. Anon
    The story is beyond preposterous and 100% fake.
    But it’s significant how all the Democrat presidential contenders fell all over themselves to credulously endorse the hoax.
    They have clearly calculated that the nomination will go yo the winner of an all-out race to out-stupid each other by appealing to the SJW base of the party.

     


    Hasn’t anyone figured out that the odds that a “hate crime” is a hoax is directly proportionate to the extent that it fits Leftist cliches about “racists.”
    In particular, anything involving a noose or a swastika are fake approximately 100% of the time.
     
    I am not saying all accusations that fit the leftist narrative are necessarily all false. But this one had so many insanely implausible plot points that it effectively separates the merely open-minded from the biased hacks.

    Your cop-out is to say that leftists journalists (mostly redundant) get to advocate any slanderous nonsense they want until their allegation is conclusively proven false -- at which point they can say "it's not our fault, new facts came out."

    They report fake hate crimes as true (no hedging about "alleged" facts, etc.), safe in the knowledge that 99% of these allegations will never warrant the follow up to be actually investigated and solved. In the extremely rare circumstance that the authorities will actually put in the time and effort to investigate, the typical "hate crime" reported in the NYT turns out to be a hoax.

    So if 80% of the solved hate crimes are hoaxes, it's a safe bet that at least 80% of the unsolved hate crimes reported in the NYT are also fake. And no, I don't have time to go research the exact percentage and do the math for the fake news NYT.

    Suffice it to say, however, that if the NYT (or other MSM) are reporting something unverifiable that supports their narrative, then it is presumptively false.
    , @Prof. Woland

    “The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what’s left of their credibility once and for all.”
     
    I don't think that many people read the NYT anymore because of it's credibility. That is certainly not why advertisers and investors support it. They read it because it confirms and reinforces their world view and sets the boundaries for what is politically correct and what is not. In a day and age where any one using the internet can instantly tap into topical information that is written by experts that specialize in a particular genre or subject the NYT is virtually obsolete.
  145. @Peter Johnson
    The New York Times (secret motto: All the News That Fits the Narrative) has suddenly dropped the Jussie Smollett story.

    Most of the fake-news activity in the mainstream press is actually fact-selection rather than fact-distortion. So the New York Times was careful to repeatedly quote Jussie Smollett rather than present a balanced picture, and now that he has gone very quiet, they have too. Shame on them; it was a good paper for many decades.

    “The New York Times (secret motto: All the News That Fits the Narrative) has suddenly dropped the Jussie Smollett story.”

    Not quite.

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/02/17/us/ap-us-empire-cast-member-attack.html

    Now, we shall see how the NYT proceeds. Will they issue some sort of “mea culpa” and have a story about the need to be more diligent in how such incidents are reported? OR, will they simply let this story “die off”?

    Regardless, the fact of the matter is that actual “hate crimes” are committed in our nation–even though I am not personally a fan of this legal designation–and that this hoax does not mean that any, all, or most of these crimes are also hoaxes. It’s called look at matters on a case by case basis.

  146. The reality is that until CPD actually confirms, with evidence and corroboration, that it was a hoax, and an arrest is made of Smollet, which seems more than likely it was staged, then the left and the right will continue with their narratives. Of course, if the situation never gets resolved, the left will say “no justice” and the right will say “you lie”.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    The reality is that until CPD actually confirms, with evidence and corroboration, that it was a hoax, and an arrest is made of Smollet, which seems more than likely it was staged, then the left and the right will continue with their narratives. Of course, if the situation never gets resolved, the left will say “no justice” and the right will say “you lie”.
     
    Corvinus -- I have a great deal on a bridge that you can buy cheap. The CPD hasn't said it's a scam yet, so you should really give it a serious look.
  147. @Corvinus
    "The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what’s left of their credibility once and for all."

    Only until more information came out did it become more likely it was a hoax. So you are engaging in hindsight bias here. It is other than surprising that the Alt Right said "hoax" because it is like a reflex. What would have happened if this event turned out to be exactly what Smollet said? Would they (or you) admit they were dead wrong? OR, would there be a double down here? (Of course, the media should come out with a mea culpa and be more diligent in the future before making grand pronouncements about "hate crimes"). The fact is that the (D)'s ought to have been more mindful given our political and racial climate from jumping on this bandwagon.

    Do you think ALL or MOST of these "hate crimes" are "hoaxes"? If yes, how do you know for certain in EVERY or MOST cases? Please be specific.

    Of course, the lesson here is that the right and the left are quick to the draw to get out their narrative, with some saying "it's totally true" (without investigating or questioning it) and others saying "it's Fake News" (and not taking time to dig deeper into their potential confirmation bias).

    Only until more information came out did it become more likely it was a hoax. So you are engaging in hindsight bias here.

    Zero hindsight bias here.

    May the court reporter please read back my posts from January 30, 2019 when the story was first reported . . . .

    @Mr. Anon
    The story is beyond preposterous and 100% fake.
    But it’s significant how all the Democrat presidential contenders fell all over themselves to credulously endorse the hoax.
    They have clearly calculated that the nomination will go yo the winner of an all-out race to out-stupid each other by appealing to the SJW base of the party.

    Hasn’t anyone figured out that the odds that a “hate crime” is a hoax is directly proportionate to the extent that it fits Leftist cliches about “racists.”
    In particular, anything involving a noose or a swastika are fake approximately 100% of the time.

    I am not saying all accusations that fit the leftist narrative are necessarily all false. But this one had so many insanely implausible plot points that it effectively separates the merely open-minded from the biased hacks.

    Your cop-out is to say that leftists journalists (mostly redundant) get to advocate any slanderous nonsense they want until their allegation is conclusively proven false — at which point they can say “it’s not our fault, new facts came out.”

    They report fake hate crimes as true (no hedging about “alleged” facts, etc.), safe in the knowledge that 99% of these allegations will never warrant the follow up to be actually investigated and solved. In the extremely rare circumstance that the authorities will actually put in the time and effort to investigate, the typical “hate crime” reported in the NYT turns out to be a hoax.

    So if 80% of the solved hate crimes are hoaxes, it’s a safe bet that at least 80% of the unsolved hate crimes reported in the NYT are also fake. And no, I don’t have time to go research the exact percentage and do the math for the fake news NYT.

    Suffice it to say, however, that if the NYT (or other MSM) are reporting something unverifiable that supports their narrative, then it is presumptively false.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "I am not saying all accusations that fit the leftist narrative are necessarily all false."

    Would you say most or the majority?

    "But this one had so many insanely implausible plot points that it effectively separates the merely open-minded from the biased hacks."

    That is your hindsight bias kicking in.

    "Your cop-out is to say that leftists journalists (mostly redundant)"

    No redundancy there. A journalist does not have to be a "lefty".

    "get to advocate any slanderous nonsense they want until their allegation is conclusively proven false — at which point they can say “it’s not our fault, new facts came out.”"

    Assuming that it was "slanderous nonsense". Again, you have the benefit of being able to label it in that fashion given what has come out.

    "They report fake hate crimes as true (no hedging about “alleged” facts, etc.)"

    They report an event as a hate crime. Only until the police determine whether or not the incident is fake is then properly called a hoax.

    "safe in the knowledge that 99% of these allegations will never warrant the follow up to be actually investigated and solved."

    According to whom/who?

    "In the extremely rare circumstance that the authorities will actually put in the time and effort to investigate..."

    Actually, the authorities put in the time in most of these circumstances. The FBI has data on their efforts. So you are not being accurate here.

    "the typical “hate crime” reported in the NYT turns out to be a hoax."

    So from your vantage point most "hate crimes" are hoaxes? How are you able to definitively know?

    "So if 80% of the solved hate crimes are hoaxes, it’s a safe bet that at least 80% of the unsolved hate crimes reported in the NYT are also fake."

    Now you are just making up numbers as you go along.

    "And no, I don’t have time to go research the exact percentage and do the math for the fake news NYT."

    Thank you for proving my point! You already have determined without investigating thoroughly this issue. As a result, there is no need for you to find out more information. Why should you? You already made up your mind. So you are held hostage by confirmation bias. Congratulations.
  148. @Corvinus
    The reality is that until CPD actually confirms, with evidence and corroboration, that it was a hoax, and an arrest is made of Smollet, which seems more than likely it was staged, then the left and the right will continue with their narratives. Of course, if the situation never gets resolved, the left will say "no justice" and the right will say "you lie".

    The reality is that until CPD actually confirms, with evidence and corroboration, that it was a hoax, and an arrest is made of Smollet, which seems more than likely it was staged, then the left and the right will continue with their narratives. Of course, if the situation never gets resolved, the left will say “no justice” and the right will say “you lie”.

    Corvinus — I have a great deal on a bridge that you can buy cheap. The CPD hasn’t said it’s a scam yet, so you should really give it a serious look.

  149. @Clifford Brown
    https://twitter.com/CharlieDeMar/status/1096933982481117184

    The Crafty Beaver!!! Remember that MAGA means "victim of a hoax" in Nigerian pidgin. Why spend thousands of dollars to hire a couple of Nigerian juice head extras to carry out your "plot" when you could have just faked the whole thing by yourself? Why even buy a rope?

    This is the black gay version of Burn After Reading, but less believable and twice as dumb.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yl95hx6mcA

    If proven to be a hoax, how stupid and full of hate for Maga , white, or straight people can Smollett be to have the slightest inkling this would not be exposed. As this would surely have been a hate crime should it have been true, Smollett should be charged with a hate crime for trying to falsely accuse white, maga, or straight people.

  150. @Corvinus
    "The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what’s left of their credibility once and for all."

    Only until more information came out did it become more likely it was a hoax. So you are engaging in hindsight bias here. It is other than surprising that the Alt Right said "hoax" because it is like a reflex. What would have happened if this event turned out to be exactly what Smollet said? Would they (or you) admit they were dead wrong? OR, would there be a double down here? (Of course, the media should come out with a mea culpa and be more diligent in the future before making grand pronouncements about "hate crimes"). The fact is that the (D)'s ought to have been more mindful given our political and racial climate from jumping on this bandwagon.

    Do you think ALL or MOST of these "hate crimes" are "hoaxes"? If yes, how do you know for certain in EVERY or MOST cases? Please be specific.

    Of course, the lesson here is that the right and the left are quick to the draw to get out their narrative, with some saying "it's totally true" (without investigating or questioning it) and others saying "it's Fake News" (and not taking time to dig deeper into their potential confirmation bias).

    “The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what’s left of their credibility once and for all.”

    I don’t think that many people read the NYT anymore because of it’s credibility. That is certainly not why advertisers and investors support it. They read it because it confirms and reinforces their world view and sets the boundaries for what is politically correct and what is not. In a day and age where any one using the internet can instantly tap into topical information that is written by experts that specialize in a particular genre or subject the NYT is virtually obsolete.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "I don’t think that many people read the NYT anymore because of it’s credibility."

    The reality is that the NYT has stories which are reliable and credible. It's just easier for some people to say otherwise, then they do not have to put in the work intellectually.

    "They read it because it confirms and reinforces their world view..."

    For some people assuredly. No different than when people come here and read Mr. Sailer for the exact reason you stated.

    "In a day and age where any one using the internet can instantly tap into topical information that is written by experts that specialize in a particular genre or subject the NYT is virtually obsolete."

    Yet those experts may also be subject to recency bias and confirmation bias. They may have credibility issues as well. So one has to properly vet those sources as well.
  151. He should be criminally charged if it is a staged hoax.

  152. @Hypnotoad666

    Only until more information came out did it become more likely it was a hoax. So you are engaging in hindsight bias here.
     
    Zero hindsight bias here.

    May the court reporter please read back my posts from January 30, 2019 when the story was first reported . . . .

    @Mr. Anon
    The story is beyond preposterous and 100% fake.
    But it’s significant how all the Democrat presidential contenders fell all over themselves to credulously endorse the hoax.
    They have clearly calculated that the nomination will go yo the winner of an all-out race to out-stupid each other by appealing to the SJW base of the party.

     


    Hasn’t anyone figured out that the odds that a “hate crime” is a hoax is directly proportionate to the extent that it fits Leftist cliches about “racists.”
    In particular, anything involving a noose or a swastika are fake approximately 100% of the time.
     
    I am not saying all accusations that fit the leftist narrative are necessarily all false. But this one had so many insanely implausible plot points that it effectively separates the merely open-minded from the biased hacks.

    Your cop-out is to say that leftists journalists (mostly redundant) get to advocate any slanderous nonsense they want until their allegation is conclusively proven false -- at which point they can say "it's not our fault, new facts came out."

    They report fake hate crimes as true (no hedging about "alleged" facts, etc.), safe in the knowledge that 99% of these allegations will never warrant the follow up to be actually investigated and solved. In the extremely rare circumstance that the authorities will actually put in the time and effort to investigate, the typical "hate crime" reported in the NYT turns out to be a hoax.

    So if 80% of the solved hate crimes are hoaxes, it's a safe bet that at least 80% of the unsolved hate crimes reported in the NYT are also fake. And no, I don't have time to go research the exact percentage and do the math for the fake news NYT.

    Suffice it to say, however, that if the NYT (or other MSM) are reporting something unverifiable that supports their narrative, then it is presumptively false.

    “I am not saying all accusations that fit the leftist narrative are necessarily all false.”

    Would you say most or the majority?

    “But this one had so many insanely implausible plot points that it effectively separates the merely open-minded from the biased hacks.”

    That is your hindsight bias kicking in.

    “Your cop-out is to say that leftists journalists (mostly redundant)”

    No redundancy there. A journalist does not have to be a “lefty”.

    “get to advocate any slanderous nonsense they want until their allegation is conclusively proven false — at which point they can say “it’s not our fault, new facts came out.””

    Assuming that it was “slanderous nonsense”. Again, you have the benefit of being able to label it in that fashion given what has come out.

    “They report fake hate crimes as true (no hedging about “alleged” facts, etc.)”

    They report an event as a hate crime. Only until the police determine whether or not the incident is fake is then properly called a hoax.

    “safe in the knowledge that 99% of these allegations will never warrant the follow up to be actually investigated and solved.”

    According to whom/who?

    “In the extremely rare circumstance that the authorities will actually put in the time and effort to investigate…”

    Actually, the authorities put in the time in most of these circumstances. The FBI has data on their efforts. So you are not being accurate here.

    “the typical “hate crime” reported in the NYT turns out to be a hoax.”

    So from your vantage point most “hate crimes” are hoaxes? How are you able to definitively know?

    “So if 80% of the solved hate crimes are hoaxes, it’s a safe bet that at least 80% of the unsolved hate crimes reported in the NYT are also fake.”

    Now you are just making up numbers as you go along.

    “And no, I don’t have time to go research the exact percentage and do the math for the fake news NYT.”

    Thank you for proving my point! You already have determined without investigating thoroughly this issue. As a result, there is no need for you to find out more information. Why should you? You already made up your mind. So you are held hostage by confirmation bias. Congratulations.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    Corvinus -- You don't get it, the story was a hoax. Calling it a hoax is not bias. Why are you such a shill apologist for the people who reported a hoax.
  153. @Prof. Woland

    “The fact that all the Democratic presidential candidates and the MSM knowingly endorsed such an obvious hoax should help destroy what’s left of their credibility once and for all.”
     
    I don't think that many people read the NYT anymore because of it's credibility. That is certainly not why advertisers and investors support it. They read it because it confirms and reinforces their world view and sets the boundaries for what is politically correct and what is not. In a day and age where any one using the internet can instantly tap into topical information that is written by experts that specialize in a particular genre or subject the NYT is virtually obsolete.

    “I don’t think that many people read the NYT anymore because of it’s credibility.”

    The reality is that the NYT has stories which are reliable and credible. It’s just easier for some people to say otherwise, then they do not have to put in the work intellectually.

    “They read it because it confirms and reinforces their world view…”

    For some people assuredly. No different than when people come here and read Mr. Sailer for the exact reason you stated.

    “In a day and age where any one using the internet can instantly tap into topical information that is written by experts that specialize in a particular genre or subject the NYT is virtually obsolete.”

    Yet those experts may also be subject to recency bias and confirmation bias. They may have credibility issues as well. So one has to properly vet those sources as well.

  154. @O'Really
    So it turns out Kamala's anti-lynching bill just passed the Senate two days ago...

    While discussing the bill, Booker cited the recent reported attack in Chicago against actor Jussie Smollett of Empire fame and said that “lynching is not a relic of the past.”

    https://www.theroot.com/senate-passes-bill-that-makes-lynching-a-federal-crime-1832648806

    Thanks, I’ll post.

  155. @Malcolm X-Lax
    This case will be a lesson to future hoaxers of what not to do. I expect better, more sophisticated high-profile hoaxes in the future.

    Most are too stupid to learn. It doesn’t matter.

    Deligitimating the Backward and the other MSM outlets should be our goal, but given the sheer stupidity of the masses, it’s a tough one to achieve.

  156. @MikeW
    I'll buck the trend here and try to offer some kind advice to a guy who's obviously very young and very naive:

    1 . Make a public statement that what you did was inexcusable, period. (don't say anything about real violence against gays and blacks, don't say you were high or sleepy or that your intentions were noble).

    2 Negotiate a plea with the state's attorney so you don't do any jail time, and give a nice fat donation to the police and maybe to some noncontroversial Chicago charity.

    3 Ask Robin Roberts for a second interview where she can ask you the hard questions that she didn't ask you the first time. When she grills you and says how betrayed she feels, take it like a man. Say "I painted myself into a corner and I just didn't know how to get myself out. I'm sorry."

    4. Avoid making any political or social justice statements, for a long, long, long time. You have zero credibility, dude. Focus on your work, if you still have a job.

    That’s good advice, but the kind of person who would take that advice isn’t the kind of person who would land himself in this situation to begin with.

  157. @anon1
    Do you have a source for that? The Duke boys collecting millions? I hope those Covington kids get big bucks too. I especially hope those TV and Hollywood "celebrity" punks get bled white (no pun intended) by them.
  158. @Corvinus
    "I am not saying all accusations that fit the leftist narrative are necessarily all false."

    Would you say most or the majority?

    "But this one had so many insanely implausible plot points that it effectively separates the merely open-minded from the biased hacks."

    That is your hindsight bias kicking in.

    "Your cop-out is to say that leftists journalists (mostly redundant)"

    No redundancy there. A journalist does not have to be a "lefty".

    "get to advocate any slanderous nonsense they want until their allegation is conclusively proven false — at which point they can say “it’s not our fault, new facts came out.”"

    Assuming that it was "slanderous nonsense". Again, you have the benefit of being able to label it in that fashion given what has come out.

    "They report fake hate crimes as true (no hedging about “alleged” facts, etc.)"

    They report an event as a hate crime. Only until the police determine whether or not the incident is fake is then properly called a hoax.

    "safe in the knowledge that 99% of these allegations will never warrant the follow up to be actually investigated and solved."

    According to whom/who?

    "In the extremely rare circumstance that the authorities will actually put in the time and effort to investigate..."

    Actually, the authorities put in the time in most of these circumstances. The FBI has data on their efforts. So you are not being accurate here.

    "the typical “hate crime” reported in the NYT turns out to be a hoax."

    So from your vantage point most "hate crimes" are hoaxes? How are you able to definitively know?

    "So if 80% of the solved hate crimes are hoaxes, it’s a safe bet that at least 80% of the unsolved hate crimes reported in the NYT are also fake."

    Now you are just making up numbers as you go along.

    "And no, I don’t have time to go research the exact percentage and do the math for the fake news NYT."

    Thank you for proving my point! You already have determined without investigating thoroughly this issue. As a result, there is no need for you to find out more information. Why should you? You already made up your mind. So you are held hostage by confirmation bias. Congratulations.

    Corvinus — You don’t get it, the story was a hoax. Calling it a hoax is not bias. Why are you such a shill apologist for the people who reported a hoax.

  159. @Buck Ransom
    So the white-supremacist perps are two gay Nigerian bodybuilders wearing
    festive red hats from a local beauty supply emporium and armed with clothesline from
    the Crusty Beaver. Who said this dark little comedy was not well written?

    Apparently, Smollett just read for the lead in Take Me Out, a Tony-winning play about a black, gay, baseball player who is bullied by teammates.

    I guess we should be glad he didn’t read for the title character in a remake of The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T. Lord only knows what form his inspiration would have taken.

  160. @Mr McKenna

    We never heard Jackie’s story.
     
    Incredible that anyone would say that. We heard little else for several weeks. Yes, much of it was mediated by Sabrina, but we also heard directly from her friends and others in the Women's Center at the University. "Jackie's story" was broadcast worldwide. Do you need to hear the lies from the woman's own lips? Ain't gonna happen.

    The story we haven't heard is Haven's. Still waiting on that.

    Listen to you! We heard Jackie’s story “directly from her friends and others in the Women’s Center at the University.”

    That is not what “directly” means. And, of course, we never heard even that, as their reports were reported by other media, making then at least double hearsay.

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