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I don’t do much with Facebook, but I guess I have it set up to automatically post my Tweets. Yesterday, after I tweeted a graph comparing the UN’s population forecasts for four African and four European countries, somebody asked me if the country that is expected to reach 192 million by the end of century is famously overpopulated Nigeria. I replied that Nigeria didn’t fit on my graph, so I showed instead little-known Niger.

Today, Facebook told me:

Screenshot 2017-06-25 14.53.45

In the above graph, I’m comparing Niger to Iran. You can see a steep increase in Iranian population after the mullahs took over in the late 1970s and pushed the pedal to the metal on fertility. But you can then see the Iranian theocrats’ change of heart in the early 1990s when they realized that Iran was overpopulated enough already and so they started encouraging more sustainable family sizes in their country.

In other words, Iran shows that it is possible for prudent leadership to moderate population growth to a responsible level

But you can also see that it will likely take about 60 years from this point of wising up on fertility for Iran’s population to stop growing due to the phenomenon of demographic momentum.

In contrast, once empty Niger in the impoverished southern Sahara is starting to fill up with what bodes to be an enormous number of people, some of whom are headed for Europe already, with virtually nobody trying to pump the brakes. Practically nobody in the West is even asking Niger to show some responsibility.

But don’t discuss UN forecasts of Niger’s population growth on Facebook. That violates community standards.

Facebook may not believe that anybody could possibly be interested in Niger, but, as Trotsky would say, the upcoming 192,000,000 Nigeriens are, like war, interested in you.

 
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  1. Black people are sacred. Or rather, gays and women desire them. So they are above any criticism. In addition, Black women make White women, even the fattest and slaggiest, look “pretty” in comparison. [A tell for hot female insecurity is the number of fat friends around her to make her look prettier by comparison.]

    So yeah, Fakebook being both gay and female dominated, of course your tweet was removed. Don’t think logic, rules, or anything other than pure female-gay (same thing) desire/emotion runs the West. Once you understand that, everything makes sense and is utterly predictable.

    Predictable in a way that the model of (((JEWS!!!!eleventy!!111))) is not: flood Europe and very nice places like the South of France with Africans and Muslims who push out Jews? Not good for Jews and very predictable but oh so producing lady tingles down there for the women and gays.

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  2. Some fool mod probably saw “Niger**” three times and thought you didn’t know how to spell.

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    • LOL: eah, Frau Katze
    • Replies: @AM
    That's possible. Who knows who they're using to mod Facebook, Twitter, etc? It probably is an Indian firm stocked with people who are using formal British English and really don't care. Or it's bot automatically looking for that word.
    , @Barnard
    That was my thought as well. I would be surprised if removing the post was related to the content.
    , @Autochthon
    Assuming this is the reasoning, other reprehensible persons with no place in Facebook's community include:

    • Agatha Christie
    • Mark Twain
    • Chris Rock
    • Joseph Conrad
    • Harriet Beecher Stowe
    • Kwame Kilpatrick
    • Cassius Clay
    • Eugene Genovese
    • Richard Pryor
    • Eddie Murphy
    • Mel Brooks
    • Quentin Tarantino
    • Langston Hughes
    • Flannery O'Connor
    • William Faulkner
    • Gilbert & Sullivan
    • Rudyard Kipling

    I weary; I could write all day, but the point is made: Steve is in pretty interesting company, and Facebook has no interest in anyone interesting.
    , @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    I wonder how fastidious Zuckerberg's Stasi is at stomping out uses of a sometimes derogatory slur when other times is a familiar colloquialism for one's homies enthusiastically deployed by brothers of another color.
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    Poor Niger.

    Not only are its citizens the world's least literate, but even those who are can't read about their own country on Facebook.
    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    I wonder if Facebook-Sweden blocks posts by users named "Nygard"? Although the Vikings are so PC/SJW neutered these days, they probably voluntarily self-censor.
    , @Bill Jones
    It's not dissimilar to the flood of outrage a while ago when someone publicly used the word "niggardly".

    I've started to toss the word "snigger" around awaiting the inevitable.
  3. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    There was a scene in Alex Garland’s novel “The Beach” where someone is talking to the main character about Niger and Nigeria. It was all an elaborate prank he was playing, based on what the nationality of people from Niger were called, since Nigerians were the ones from Nigeria.

    Well, anyway. I don’t want to get into it, but I imagine what the problem is, is that you can only go around saying the names of these countries for so long before you trigger Facebook’s “community standards” bots.

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  4. This shouldn’t surprise you.

    You’re not allowed t post anything that might imply leaders might be making less than optimal decisions, if such leaders are black.

    Obviously, you can criticize anything and everything about white leaders, because freedom.

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  5. 1/ I suspect that the SJW university grad who deleted your FB post simply has never heard of Niger and thought you had just misspelled another word.

    2/ When Khomeini took over, the typical Iranian woman had 7 children. Now it’s a whole lot less. With no real infrastructure for seniors care and with the old ideas for taking care of the parents now gone, I wouldn’t want to be one of those 7 children when they grow old.

    But at least Iran has no immigrants so there’s that.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    But at least Iran has no immigrants so there’s that.
     
    Why would they? They're already an empire, since Persian times.
    , @AM

    When Khomeini took over, the typical Iranian woman had 7 children. Now it’s a whole lot less. With no real infrastructure for seniors care and with the old ideas for taking care of the parents now gone, I wouldn’t want to be one of those 7 children when they grow old.
     
    From a Reuters article from 2014:

    "Iran's birth rate stands at 1.6 children per woman, lawmaker Ali Motahari said, according to IRNA. At that rate, the population of more than 75 million would fall to 31 million by 2094, and 47 percent of Iranians would be above the age of 60, said Mohamad Saleh Jokar, another lawmaker.

    U.N. data suggests Iran's median age will increase from 28 in 2013 to 40 by 2030."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-population-idUSKBN0GB15Z20140811
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    Actually Iran has plenty of immigrants, around 2 million from Afghanistan alone.

    In fairness, they don't coddle them like West Europeans, but send them off as cannon fodder to Syria. I suppose this is a marginally better approach.
    , @Romanian
    They are already hyper-diverse, to their detriment, though good politics calls for putting a happy face on the pressure cooker. I've met Persian Iranians, Tajiks from Afghanistan (who are Farsi speakers), Kurdish Iranians, Azeri Iranians, Balochi Iranian. The diversity is baked into the cake, and the Persians have a pretty slim majority. One good whack from history and the place might splinter apart.
  6. But you can then see the Iranian theocrats’ change of heart in the early 1990s when they realized that Iran was overpopulated enough already and so they started encouraging more sustainable family sizes in their country.

    Iran has had a change of heart yet again. Iran’s fertility rate has dropped below replacement and the government is concerned. (1.6 actually, within striking distance of Northern Europe interestingly.)

    The did not outlaw temporary contraception, but it’s no longer free: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/04/iran-eliminate-family-planning-programs.html

    Permanent contraception were outlawed in 2014: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-population-idUSKBN0GB15Z20140811

    I read a more touchy feely article at the time and there was concerns that Iran’s basketcase theocracy had finally caught up with it’s young people. Housing is expensive because of lack of building and I guess lack of trust generally in the economy. Couples don’t feel they can really afford children, no matter how many happy posters the state puts up.

    Abortion is legal in certain circumstances and that remains unchanged.

    I don’t really see how they get people to have more babies anyway if it’s really economic issues holding young people back.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon

    The municipality has 12,000 inhabitants, and its economy is dominated by agriculture, herding and small trade.
     
    Isn't it more efficient to simply write:

    "The muniipality has twelve thousand inhabitants and no modern economy."
  8. “Niger” doesn’t rhyme with anything, does it?

    Unless you cheat, as Derb has done.

    There once was a fellow named Guy
    who chewed
    qat in the alleys of Ni-
    ger, leaving him high
    as an elephant’s eye
    and sent to the sweet by-and-by.

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    • Replies: @anonymous

    “Niger” doesn’t rhyme with anything, does it?
     
    Think of Niger in comparison to the words Tiger and Tigger
    , @Dave Shanken
    There was a young lady from Niger,
    Who rode on the back of a tiger;
    They came back from the ride
    With the lady inside,
    And a smile on the face of the tiger.
  9. @anony-mouse
    1/ I suspect that the SJW university grad who deleted your FB post simply has never heard of Niger and thought you had just misspelled another word.

    2/ When Khomeini took over, the typical Iranian woman had 7 children. Now it's a whole lot less. With no real infrastructure for seniors care and with the old ideas for taking care of the parents now gone, I wouldn't want to be one of those 7 children when they grow old.

    But at least Iran has no immigrants so there's that.

    But at least Iran has no immigrants so there’s that.

    Why would they? They’re already an empire, since Persian times.

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  10. @Broski
    Some fool mod probably saw "Niger**" three times and thought you didn't know how to spell.

    That’s possible. Who knows who they’re using to mod Facebook, Twitter, etc? It probably is an Indian firm stocked with people who are using formal British English and really don’t care. Or it’s bot automatically looking for that word.

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    • Replies: @Stan Adams

    Indian firm stocked with people who are using formal British English
     
    "Asok, kindly have a look at this Facebook comment and do the needful."

    "I will look into it, and revert back to you as soon as possible. Oh, my. This comment is a Himalayan blunder. Immediately it must be consigned to digital oblivion."

    "Asok, you have deleted the comment. Many felicitations on your rapidity."

    http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/innis.asp
  11. @anony-mouse
    1/ I suspect that the SJW university grad who deleted your FB post simply has never heard of Niger and thought you had just misspelled another word.

    2/ When Khomeini took over, the typical Iranian woman had 7 children. Now it's a whole lot less. With no real infrastructure for seniors care and with the old ideas for taking care of the parents now gone, I wouldn't want to be one of those 7 children when they grow old.

    But at least Iran has no immigrants so there's that.

    When Khomeini took over, the typical Iranian woman had 7 children. Now it’s a whole lot less. With no real infrastructure for seniors care and with the old ideas for taking care of the parents now gone, I wouldn’t want to be one of those 7 children when they grow old.

    From a Reuters article from 2014:

    “Iran’s birth rate stands at 1.6 children per woman, lawmaker Ali Motahari said, according to IRNA. At that rate, the population of more than 75 million would fall to 31 million by 2094, and 47 percent of Iranians would be above the age of 60, said Mohamad Saleh Jokar, another lawmaker.

    U.N. data suggests Iran’s median age will increase from 28 in 2013 to 40 by 2030.”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-population-idUSKBN0GB15Z20140811

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  12. My sister-in-law once told me that one of the most terrifying moments for white kids in her majority-minority grade school was coming to Niger after being asked by the teacher to recite the names of African countries.

    But don’t feel bad about the removal — Facebook is just being super-duper extra careful after that Google algorithm kept on identifying blacks as gorillas.

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    • Replies: @Karl
    12 Bill P. > was coming to Niger after being asked by the teacher to recite the names of African countries.


    It's a francophone country. the pronunciation is knee-jheer, where the "jh" is that soft, frog version of the letter "J".


    There was a lot of Arab (& white soldier-boy french) blood mixed into the population from invasions... the young women are sometimes fairly attractive, more like the ethiopians than like true, pure sub-saharans.
    , @anon
    I used to always find it a little weird how many black British kids used to be named "Nigel". That always seemed like they were just asking for trouble to me.
    , @The True and Original David
    I had the same experience, in 4th grade.

    I was the kid the teacher picked to recite the word "Niger" as she stood beside the hanging map of Africa with a pointer in her hand.

    Because I wouldn't answer, she told my parents it was a scandal that I was in the "gifted" program because I was clearly retarded.

    Homeschool your children.

  13. @Broski
    Some fool mod probably saw "Niger**" three times and thought you didn't know how to spell.

    That was my thought as well. I would be surprised if removing the post was related to the content.

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  14. @Broski
    Some fool mod probably saw "Niger**" three times and thought you didn't know how to spell.

    Assuming this is the reasoning, other reprehensible persons with no place in Facebook’s community include:

    • Agatha Christie
    • Mark Twain
    • Chris Rock
    • Joseph Conrad
    • Harriet Beecher Stowe
    • Kwame Kilpatrick
    • Cassius Clay
    • Eugene Genovese
    • Richard Pryor
    • Eddie Murphy
    • Mel Brooks
    • Quentin Tarantino
    • Langston Hughes
    • Flannery O’Connor
    • William Faulkner
    • Gilbert & Sullivan
    • Rudyard Kipling

    I weary; I could write all day, but the point is made: Steve is in pretty interesting company, and Facebook has no interest in anyone interesting.

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  15. @gruff
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Say,_Niger

    The municipality has 12,000 inhabitants, and its economy is dominated by agriculture, herding and small trade.

    Isn’t it more efficient to simply write:

    “The muniipality has twelve thousand inhabitants and no modern economy.”

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  16. @Bill P
    My sister-in-law once told me that one of the most terrifying moments for white kids in her majority-minority grade school was coming to Niger after being asked by the teacher to recite the names of African countries.

    But don't feel bad about the removal -- Facebook is just being super-duper extra careful after that Google algorithm kept on identifying blacks as gorillas.

    12 Bill P. > was coming to Niger after being asked by the teacher to recite the names of African countries.

    It’s a francophone country. the pronunciation is knee-jheer, where the “jh” is that soft, frog version of the letter “J”.

    There was a lot of Arab (& white soldier-boy french) blood mixed into the population from invasions… the young women are sometimes fairly attractive, more like the ethiopians than like true, pure sub-saharans.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    It’s a francophone country. the pronunciation is knee-jheer, where the “jh” is that soft, frog version of the letter “J”.
     
    Yeah, but the standard Anglophone pronunciation is "Nigh-jer"....Although it does seem that they are trying to make Anglos say it the French way....

    Of course, since I'm a conservative, I'll stick with "Nigh-jer".....And Côte d'Ivoire is Ivory Coast, dammit....
  17. It would appear that Facebook is being rather niggardly when it come to using that African country’s official name.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    It would appear that Facebook is being rather niggardly when it come to using that African country’s official name.
     
    Indeed. Say Niger enough and, well, the jig is up.

    Er, uh, I mean...........

    Anyway, apparently even just writing the name of a country - Niger - on Facebook is enough to spook them.

    Uh,ahem, what I meant was.................

  18. That was DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD says Emperor Zuckerberg

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    • Replies: @Njguy73

    That was DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD says Emperor Zuckerberg
     
    fb 25.6.17 statusing bz dayorder doubleplusungood refs unfriends restatus vibrantwise zucksub antetweeting
  19. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    I heard some leftists on the radio go out of their way to talk about how it should be pronounced, before they said anything, and they agreed on “Nijer”. Perhaps that is the French pronunciation.

    Niger:

    “…Niger covers a land area of almost 1,270,000 square km, making it the largest country in West Africa, with over 80 percent of its land area covered by the Sahara Desert…

    …consistently one of the lowest-ranked in the United Nations’ Human Development Index (HDI); it was ranked last at 188th for 2014…

    …Niger faces serious challenges to development… high fertility rates and resulting overpopulation without birth control…

    The French</b. authorities also abolished the widespread slavery among Tuareg communities…

    …Col. Seyni Kountché and a small military group under the name of Supreme Military Council deposed Diori in April 1974, following a military coup…

    …On 27 January 1996, Col. Ibrahim Baré Maïnassara led a military coup that deposed President…

    …On 9 April 1999, Maïnassara was assassinated during a military coup led by Maj. Daouda Malam Wanké…

    …In August 2002, serious unrest within military camps occurred in Niamey, Diffa, and Nguigmi, but the government was able to restore order…

    …From 2007 to 2008, the Second Tuareg Rebellion took place in northern Niger…

    …In a February 2010 coup d’état, a military junta led by captain Salou Djibo was established…

    As of 2013, Niamey is home to a U.S. drone base.

    …Niger’s population has rapidly increased with a current growth rate of 3.3% (7.1 children per mother…

    …This growth rate is one of the highest in the world and is a source of concern…

    …A 2005 study stated that over 800,000 people (nearly 8 per cent of the population) in Niger are enslaved

    …Niger has ten official national languages… Each is spoken as a first language primarily by the ethnic group with which it is associated…

    …The literacy rate of Niger is among the lowest in the world; in 2005 it was estimated to be only 28.7% (42.9% male and 15.1% female)…”

    Perhaps it is to be very subtle PC neo-colonialism:

    Diori Hamani International Airport:

    “In 2013, U.S. African Command… confirmed that U.S. air operations conducted from Base Aerienne 101 at Diori Hamani International Airport, were providing “support for intelligence collection with French forces conducting operations in Mali and with other partners in the region.” …supported by 120 U.S. Air Force personnel.”

    Well, we wouldn’t want to let our boys and girls in Niger down…

    Slavery in Niger:

    Slavery in Niger involves a number of different practices which have been practiced in the Sahel region for many centuries and which persist to this day… active part of the trans-Saharan slave trade for hundreds of years…

    …history of slavery, although this varied and in some places slavery was largely limited to the political and economic elite…

    …Following independence, many of the major slave holders became prominent political leaders… so the problem of slavery was largely ignored. In 2003, with pressure from the anti-slavery organization Timidria, Niger passed the first law in Western Africa that criminalized slavery as a specific crime. Despite this, slavery persists… women are particularly vulnerable, and a 2002 census confirmed the existence of 43,000 slaves and estimated that the total population could be over 870,000 people…

    …government of Niger… sanctioning… slave status in official decisions.”

    Is there a slavery/fertility angle?

    “…in 1996, 12-year-old Hadijatou Mani Koraou, who had been born into slavery in a Tuareg community, was sold for US$400 to 46-year-old El Hadj Souleymane Naroua as his “fifth wife” under the wahaya custom. Over nine years of violence and forced sexual relations, Mani gave birth to four children with Naroua. In 2005, Naroua signed a formal document freeing Mani, but then declared that she was his wife and prevented her from leaving…”

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  20. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Must suck for Nigeriens to not be allowed to discuss their own country on facebook.

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  21. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    This young guy I know tells of riding the muni in SF one day after starting a first time job as a bartender. He was on his phone telling his mom about the job and how all the drinks have to be measured out at one ‘jigger’ when a “homeless looking” black guy sitting near by jumps up and punches him in the mouth.

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Anon, my late father and his brothers, all WWII vets, always called blacks jigs. They also referred to jazz dancing as jig a boo dancing. Well, anyhow, maybe Niger should be the N-country.
    , @jim jones
    Mandarin has the word "Na Ge" which is guaranteed to cause a fight if used in the wrong place.
  22. @Broski
    Some fool mod probably saw "Niger**" three times and thought you didn't know how to spell.

    I wonder how fastidious Zuckerberg’s Stasi is at stomping out uses of a sometimes derogatory slur when other times is a familiar colloquialism for one’s homies enthusiastically deployed by brothers of another color.

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  23. @Broski
    Some fool mod probably saw "Niger**" three times and thought you didn't know how to spell.

    Poor Niger.

    Not only are its citizens the world’s least literate, but even those who are can’t read about their own country on Facebook.

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  24. @anony-mouse
    1/ I suspect that the SJW university grad who deleted your FB post simply has never heard of Niger and thought you had just misspelled another word.

    2/ When Khomeini took over, the typical Iranian woman had 7 children. Now it's a whole lot less. With no real infrastructure for seniors care and with the old ideas for taking care of the parents now gone, I wouldn't want to be one of those 7 children when they grow old.

    But at least Iran has no immigrants so there's that.

    Actually Iran has plenty of immigrants, around 2 million from Afghanistan alone.

    In fairness, they don’t coddle them like West Europeans, but send them off as cannon fodder to Syria. I suppose this is a marginally better approach.

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    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    Back in Saddam's glory days he would round up people he didn't like and accuse them of being Iranians (likely they were just Shiites).

    He would truck them to the border with Iran and dump them. Iran let them in.

    Last I read, the Afghans were doing jobs Iranians wouldn't do, and for less money. An old, old story.

  25. @Anon
    This young guy I know tells of riding the muni in SF one day after starting a first time job as a bartender. He was on his phone telling his mom about the job and how all the drinks have to be measured out at one 'jigger' when a "homeless looking" black guy sitting near by jumps up and punches him in the mouth.

    Anon, my late father and his brothers, all WWII vets, always called blacks jigs. They also referred to jazz dancing as jig a boo dancing. Well, anyhow, maybe Niger should be the N-country.

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  26. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Reg Cæsar
    "Niger" doesn't rhyme with anything, does it?

    Unless you cheat, as Derb has done.

    There once was a fellow named Guy
    who chewed
    qat in the alleys of Ni-
    ger, leaving him high
    as an elephant's eye
    and sent to the sweet by-and-by.

    “Niger” doesn’t rhyme with anything, does it?

    Think of Niger in comparison to the words Tiger and Tigger

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  27. When I was a kid I’m certain that, on the rare occasions it was ever mentioned, Niger was pronounced Nye-jer.

    Now it seems to have morphed into Knee-jerr.

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    • Replies: @Elsewhere
    "NYE-jer" is definitely anglicized, so I'm sure everyone pronounces it that way when first seeing it written.

    The one Nigerien I know told me that it should be pronounced "nee-ZHAIR", as in French.
  28. @Lurker
    When I was a kid I'm certain that, on the rare occasions it was ever mentioned, Niger was pronounced Nye-jer.

    Now it seems to have morphed into Knee-jerr.

    “NYE-jer” is definitely anglicized, so I’m sure everyone pronounces it that way when first seeing it written.

    The one Nigerien I know told me that it should be pronounced “nee-ZHAIR”, as in French.

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    • Replies: @anon
    I don't know. I learned it as "Nee-zhair" when I was in grade school, in a really small, non-diverse town in the midwest. So it's been around for awhile.
  29. Westerners care a lot more about this shit than Africans themselves.

    Several years ago Gazprom formed a joint company with the Nigerian national oil company called… Nigaz.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigaz

    Nobody in Russia cared. Nobody in Nigeria cared. The Anglo media had a field day.

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    • Replies: @Hibernian
    The rap music energy company.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    I am dissapointed. They should have used 2 g's. It was a wasted opportunity.
  30. @AM
    That's possible. Who knows who they're using to mod Facebook, Twitter, etc? It probably is an Indian firm stocked with people who are using formal British English and really don't care. Or it's bot automatically looking for that word.

    Indian firm stocked with people who are using formal British English

    “Asok, kindly have a look at this Facebook comment and do the needful.”

    “I will look into it, and revert back to you as soon as possible. Oh, my. This comment is a Himalayan blunder. Immediately it must be consigned to digital oblivion.”

    “Asok, you have deleted the comment. Many felicitations on your rapidity.”

    http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/innis.asp

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  31. There was a time where I actually believed libertarian arguments like this one:

    “Fertility rates are more than twice as high in countries with low levels of economic freedom and the rule of law compared to countries with high levels of those measures.” I.e., one everyone follows the teleological course towards Western modernity, the problem will solve itself.

    http://reason.com/archives/2009/06/16/the-invisible-hand-of-populati

    Then I found out that there’s an underlying premise there that is completely false. And now I’m scared.

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  32. @Karl
    12 Bill P. > was coming to Niger after being asked by the teacher to recite the names of African countries.


    It's a francophone country. the pronunciation is knee-jheer, where the "jh" is that soft, frog version of the letter "J".


    There was a lot of Arab (& white soldier-boy french) blood mixed into the population from invasions... the young women are sometimes fairly attractive, more like the ethiopians than like true, pure sub-saharans.

    It’s a francophone country. the pronunciation is knee-jheer, where the “jh” is that soft, frog version of the letter “J”.

    Yeah, but the standard Anglophone pronunciation is “Nigh-jer”….Although it does seem that they are trying to make Anglos say it the French way….

    Of course, since I’m a conservative, I’ll stick with “Nigh-jer”…..And Côte d’Ivoire is Ivory Coast, dammit….

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    • Replies: @Flip
    I still call East Asians "orientals" and my much younger girlfriend gets upset, saying it is like calling black people "colored." I don't think so.
  33. @syonredux

    It’s a francophone country. the pronunciation is knee-jheer, where the “jh” is that soft, frog version of the letter “J”.
     
    Yeah, but the standard Anglophone pronunciation is "Nigh-jer"....Although it does seem that they are trying to make Anglos say it the French way....

    Of course, since I'm a conservative, I'll stick with "Nigh-jer".....And Côte d'Ivoire is Ivory Coast, dammit....

    I still call East Asians “orientals” and my much younger girlfriend gets upset, saying it is like calling black people “colored.” I don’t think so.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    It's a bit confusing because when Brits and other Commonwealth peoples refer to the Orient they're often talking about the Near East.

    Likewise if you use "colored" in South Africa or other places the meaning is completely different. And, bizarrely, a "yellow man" in the U.S. is sometimes not a Far Easterner but a whitish "colored".
    , @Dan Hayes
    Flip:

    A Taiwanese-American friend of mind bridled at being referred to as "oriental". No, he wanted to be referred to as "North Asian". I am only too happy to comply.
    , @Romanian
    Is that you, Ray Lopez from Marginal Revolution? :))
  34. @Autochthon
    Assuming this is the reasoning, other reprehensible persons with no place in Facebook's community include:

    • Agatha Christie
    • Mark Twain
    • Chris Rock
    • Joseph Conrad
    • Harriet Beecher Stowe
    • Kwame Kilpatrick
    • Cassius Clay
    • Eugene Genovese
    • Richard Pryor
    • Eddie Murphy
    • Mel Brooks
    • Quentin Tarantino
    • Langston Hughes
    • Flannery O'Connor
    • William Faulkner
    • Gilbert & Sullivan
    • Rudyard Kipling

    I weary; I could write all day, but the point is made: Steve is in pretty interesting company, and Facebook has no interest in anyone interesting.

    I have no idea what you’re saying.

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    • Replies: @snorlax
    People who use the word you're not allowed to use in this comment section, but that, ironically, Facebook moderators may have assumed Steve was misspelling.
    , @Autochthon
    In part, I expect, because no one permits me to type a word deemed to have magical, evil powers, like unto the the power of certain words in fantastical literature:

    Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.

    The change in the wizard's voice was astounding. Suddenly it became menacing, powerful, harsh as stone. A shadow seemed to pass over the high sun, and the porch for a moment grew dark. All trembled, and the Elves stopped their ears.
     

    I'd prefer everyone behaved as an adult capable of discussing words – even vulgar words or insults – as a disinterested and mature person when ocassioned to do so, but such are modern mores that we may not, and thus communication is made difficult – as is, of course, the intent of those who would enforce such irrational taboos.
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    Maybe what we have here is plain old Special Operations Forces Neo-Colonialism. (SOFNC, you heard it here first), perhaps kind of like Laos in days gone by.

    “The Year of the Commando: U.S. Special Operations Forces Deploy to 138 Nations, 70% of the World’s Countries”, Nick Turse, TomDispatch.com, January 5, 2017:

    “…For America, 2016 may have been the year of the commando…

    …U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM)… SOCOM’s shadow wars… America’s most elite forces… were deployed to 138 countries in 2016, according to figures supplied to TomDispatch by U.S. Special Operations Command. This total, one of the highest of Barack Obama’s presidency, typifies what has become the golden age of, in SOF-speak, the “gray zone” — a phrase used to describe the murky twilight between war and peace…”

    Ah, just go ahead and call it neo-colonial gunboat (or maybe drone) diplomacy.

    “…deployments to Africa skyrocketed by more than 1600% — from just 1% of special operators dispatched outside the U.S. in 2006 to 17.26% last year

    …On any given day, around 8,000… commandos can be found in more than 90 countries worldwide…

    …Last year in Africa, where Special Operations forces utilize nearly 20 different programs and activities — from training exercises to security cooperation engagements — these included Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Kenya, Mali, Mauritania, Niger, Nigeria, Tanzania, and Uganda, among others.”

    You might not be interested in Africa, but…

    “U.S. Special Operations Numbers Surge in Africa’s Shadow Wars”, Nick Turse, 31-Dec-2016:

    “In 2016, 17.26% of all U.S. Special Operations forces… deployed abroad were sent to Africa…

    “We are not at war in Africa — but our African partners certainly are.”

    “there are approximately 1,700 [Special Operations forces] and enablers deployed… at any given time. This team is active in 20 nations in support of seven major named operations.”

    …U.S. special operators were actually deployed in at least 33 African nations…

    Hum:

    “The [Special Operations forces] network helps create specific tailored training for partner nations to empower military and law enforcement to conduct operations against our mutual threats.”

    Okay, got it, maybe. I think that means we own it. At least we will learn more African geography, I suppose.

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  36. @Unladen Swallow
    That was DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD says Emperor Zuckerberg

    That was DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD says Emperor Zuckerberg

    fb 25.6.17 statusing bz dayorder doubleplusungood refs unfriends restatus vibrantwise zucksub antetweeting

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  37. I studied Latin in high school and a little bit as an undergraduate. Therefore, I simply can’t get exercised over words like Niger, Nigeria, negro, negress, nigger, nigga, niggaz, etc.

    They are all simply derived from the Latin nigrum, meaning “black,” and derivatives of the Latin root appear in most of the Romance languages (noir, negru, negra, nero). Simple as that.

    Of course, you’re not supposed to say “black,” either… you’re supposed to say “African-American,” which is imprecise, because we’re not talking about Boers, Berbers, and Egyptians who emigrated to America, are we?

    So, back to “nigrum” and such we must go, for the sake of accuracy…

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    Right. Objectively, you'd think slurs like "darkie" or " jungle bunny" would be more offensive. Yet somehow "the N word," which simply means black, became the most offensive word in American English. Similarly, I've never understood why "oriental," which just means eastern, is considered offensive.

    The gist seems to be that anything used prior to the 1960s is offensive, regardless of the etymology. I've noticed leftists starting to use the amusingly absurd "Latinx" as a gender neutral version Latino/Latina. They could just use the older, gender-neutral term "Latin." But that's what my grandpa says, so of course that would never do.
  38. That’s right. I warned you not to notice things.

    Make my immigration reform comprehensive, please!

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  39. https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10103821948456451

    Zuckerberg is too busy promoting Chetty across Iowa and Nebraska to worry about posts about the African population boom today.

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  40. @Broski
    Some fool mod probably saw "Niger**" three times and thought you didn't know how to spell.

    I wonder if Facebook-Sweden blocks posts by users named “Nygard”? Although the Vikings are so PC/SJW neutered these days, they probably voluntarily self-censor.

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    • Replies: @Pericles
    It's probably Nygård if they're Swedish though. Or Nygaard for Danes or Norwegians, possibly. Wassup my Nygaards?

    For American readers with a fondness for the letter "å", I can also inform you that Hårvård means Hair Care. I'm saving that for some special occasion.

  41. @Moshe
    I have no idea what you're saying.

    People who use the word you’re not allowed to use in this comment section, but that, ironically, Facebook moderators may have assumed Steve was misspelling.

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    • Replies: @Moshe
    What's actually quite interesting is that a second after posting my first comment I posted a 2nd noting that I understood what he meant (even if it was phrased oddly, after all they had not written about Ni-j-er). Also they are dead and are therefore persona-non-nothing visa vis facebook.

    But anyway, I got the point and published a funny page from one of the authors he mentioned and asked him and others to guess, without cheating, which of the authors it was.

    It was the beginning of Just So Stories. The most famous one on how the leopard got its spots.

    A full page from a world famous author could not get published HERE(!) because it included a verboten word.

    So, honestly Steve, your piece here is mocking how terrified facebook is of The Forbidden Word that they even messed up and blocked Ni-j-er.

    But you really can't mock them for taking The Word so seriously if even you censor a page of Rudyard Kipling's children's stories.
  42. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Flip
    I still call East Asians "orientals" and my much younger girlfriend gets upset, saying it is like calling black people "colored." I don't think so.

    It’s a bit confusing because when Brits and other Commonwealth peoples refer to the Orient they’re often talking about the Near East.

    Likewise if you use “colored” in South Africa or other places the meaning is completely different. And, bizarrely, a “yellow man” in the U.S. is sometimes not a Far Easterner but a whitish “colored”.

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  43. @Flip
    I still call East Asians "orientals" and my much younger girlfriend gets upset, saying it is like calling black people "colored." I don't think so.

    Flip:

    A Taiwanese-American friend of mind bridled at being referred to as “oriental”. No, he wanted to be referred to as “North Asian”. I am only too happy to comply.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    A Taiwanese-American friend of mind bridled at being referred to as “oriental”. No, he wanted to be referred to as “North Asian”.
     
    Funny chaps, these inscruitable yellow devils!
  44. @Moshe
    I have no idea what you're saying.

    In part, I expect, because no one permits me to type a word deemed to have magical, evil powers, like unto the the power of certain words in fantastical literature:

    Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.

    The change in the wizard’s voice was astounding. Suddenly it became menacing, powerful, harsh as stone. A shadow seemed to pass over the high sun, and the porch for a moment grew dark. All trembled, and the Elves stopped their ears.

    I’d prefer everyone behaved as an adult capable of discussing words – even vulgar words or insults – as a disinterested and mature person when ocassioned to do so, but such are modern mores that we may not, and thus communication is made difficult – as is, of course, the intent of those who would enforce such irrational taboos.

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  45. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Bill P
    My sister-in-law once told me that one of the most terrifying moments for white kids in her majority-minority grade school was coming to Niger after being asked by the teacher to recite the names of African countries.

    But don't feel bad about the removal -- Facebook is just being super-duper extra careful after that Google algorithm kept on identifying blacks as gorillas.

    I used to always find it a little weird how many black British kids used to be named “Nigel”. That always seemed like they were just asking for trouble to me.

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  46. @Reg Cæsar
    "Niger" doesn't rhyme with anything, does it?

    Unless you cheat, as Derb has done.

    There once was a fellow named Guy
    who chewed
    qat in the alleys of Ni-
    ger, leaving him high
    as an elephant's eye
    and sent to the sweet by-and-by.

    There was a young lady from Niger,
    Who rode on the back of a tiger;
    They came back from the ride
    With the lady inside,
    And a smile on the face of the tiger.

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  47. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Elsewhere
    "NYE-jer" is definitely anglicized, so I'm sure everyone pronounces it that way when first seeing it written.

    The one Nigerien I know told me that it should be pronounced "nee-ZHAIR", as in French.

    I don’t know. I learned it as “Nee-zhair” when I was in grade school, in a really small, non-diverse town in the midwest. So it’s been around for awhile.

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    . I learned it as “Nee-zhair” when I was in grade school, in a really small, non-diverse town in the midwest. So it’s been around for awhile
     
    "Nee-zhair" is popular with a certain "neesh" of the population.

    For the normal "nitch" of Anglophones, it's "NY-jer".

    How does Mr Innes pronounce his name?
  48. In contrast, once empty Niger in the impoverished southern Sahara is starting to fill up with what bodes to be an enormous number of people, some of whom are headed for Europe already, with virtually nobody trying to pump the brakes.

    Has anyone else taken a look at the U.N.’s migration projections? They seem awfully low to me.

    Here’s how they calculate their migration projections:

    For the medium projection variant, the future path of international migration is set on the basis of past international migration estimates and migration policy considerations for the respective countries. Projected levels of net migration are generally kept constant over the next decades, starting in 2010-2015. For countries with sizable refugee populations, it is assumed that refugees return to their country of origin within the next five to ten years.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon

    For countries with sizable refugee populations, it is assumed that refugees return to their country of origin within the next five to ten years.
     
    Oh, my sides; my sides!

    I work with a guy my age (more or less forty) whose parents arrived as refugees from Nicaragua before he was born. For that matter, have these people ever been to Miami or Lewiston to talk to all the Cubans and Somalis constantly headed home after ten-year stints in the Thanoccident?

    I'm going to have to disagree with Joan Rivers or Alf or whoever the Hell is occupying the center square there at the United Nations. Do these people just hire high school drop-outs to be statisticians and demographers?! They strike me as the type who, if operating an automobile or aeroplane with visible flames streaming up from the engine, would insist everything were functioning normally because the temperature indicated by the instruments indicated no problems – they are bizarrely incapable of questioning their models and data against obvious and irrefutable empirical realities, because their models and instruments are, of course, inherently flawless....

  49. @I, Mudd
    It would appear that Facebook is being rather niggardly when it come to using that African country's official name.

    It would appear that Facebook is being rather niggardly when it come to using that African country’s official name.

    Indeed. Say Niger enough and, well, the jig is up.

    Er, uh, I mean………..

    Anyway, apparently even just writing the name of a country – Niger – on Facebook is enough to spook them.

    Uh,ahem, what I meant was……………..

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  50. Someone should tell Facebook that if the N-word is misspelled, then the poster was probably black.

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  51. Well, I guess this poem is unacceptable now:

    There was a young lady of Niger
    Who smiled as she rode on a tiger;
    They returned from the ride
    With the lady inside,
    And the smile on the face of the tiger.

    William Cosmo Monkhouse

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  52. @Reginald Maplethorp

    In contrast, once empty Niger in the impoverished southern Sahara is starting to fill up with what bodes to be an enormous number of people, some of whom are headed for Europe already, with virtually nobody trying to pump the brakes.
     
    Has anyone else taken a look at the U.N.'s migration projections? They seem awfully low to me.

    Here's how they calculate their migration projections:

    For the medium projection variant, the future path of international migration is set on the basis of past international migration estimates and migration policy considerations for the respective countries. Projected levels of net migration are generally kept constant over the next decades, starting in 2010-2015. For countries with sizable refugee populations, it is assumed that refugees return to their country of origin within the next five to ten years.
     

    For countries with sizable refugee populations, it is assumed that refugees return to their country of origin within the next five to ten years.

    Oh, my sides; my sides!

    I work with a guy my age (more or less forty) whose parents arrived as refugees from Nicaragua before he was born. For that matter, have these people ever been to Miami or Lewiston to talk to all the Cubans and Somalis constantly headed home after ten-year stints in the Thanoccident?

    I’m going to have to disagree with Joan Rivers or Alf or whoever the Hell is occupying the center square there at the United Nations. Do these people just hire high school drop-outs to be statisticians and demographers?! They strike me as the type who, if operating an automobile or aeroplane with visible flames streaming up from the engine, would insist everything were functioning normally because the temperature indicated by the instruments indicated no problems – they are bizarrely incapable of questioning their models and data against obvious and irrefutable empirical realities, because their models and instruments are, of course, inherently flawless….

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  53. @anon
    I don't know. I learned it as "Nee-zhair" when I was in grade school, in a really small, non-diverse town in the midwest. So it's been around for awhile.

    . I learned it as “Nee-zhair” when I was in grade school, in a really small, non-diverse town in the midwest. So it’s been around for awhile

    “Nee-zhair” is popular with a certain “neesh” of the population.

    For the normal “nitch” of Anglophones, it’s “NY-jer”.

    How does Mr Innes pronounce his name?

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  54. @Anon
    This young guy I know tells of riding the muni in SF one day after starting a first time job as a bartender. He was on his phone telling his mom about the job and how all the drinks have to be measured out at one 'jigger' when a "homeless looking" black guy sitting near by jumps up and punches him in the mouth.

    Mandarin has the word “Na Ge” which is guaranteed to cause a fight if used in the wrong place.

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    • Replies: @martin2
    Yes and since it means "that one" they use that phrase a lot.
  55. @jim jones
    Mandarin has the word "Na Ge" which is guaranteed to cause a fight if used in the wrong place.

    Yes and since it means “that one” they use that phrase a lot.

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  56. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    I wonder if Facebook-Sweden blocks posts by users named "Nygard"? Although the Vikings are so PC/SJW neutered these days, they probably voluntarily self-censor.

    It’s probably Nygård if they’re Swedish though. Or Nygaard for Danes or Norwegians, possibly. Wassup my Nygaards?

    For American readers with a fondness for the letter “å”, I can also inform you that Hårvård means Hair Care. I’m saving that for some special occasion.

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  57. @snorlax
    People who use the word you're not allowed to use in this comment section, but that, ironically, Facebook moderators may have assumed Steve was misspelling.

    What’s actually quite interesting is that a second after posting my first comment I posted a 2nd noting that I understood what he meant (even if it was phrased oddly, after all they had not written about Ni-j-er). Also they are dead and are therefore persona-non-nothing visa vis facebook.

    But anyway, I got the point and published a funny page from one of the authors he mentioned and asked him and others to guess, without cheating, which of the authors it was.

    It was the beginning of Just So Stories. The most famous one on how the leopard got its spots.

    A full page from a world famous author could not get published HERE(!) because it included a verboten word.

    So, honestly Steve, your piece here is mocking how terrified facebook is of The Forbidden Word that they even messed up and blocked Ni-j-er.

    But you really can’t mock them for taking The Word so seriously if even you censor a page of Rudyard Kipling’s children’s stories.

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  58. @anony-mouse
    1/ I suspect that the SJW university grad who deleted your FB post simply has never heard of Niger and thought you had just misspelled another word.

    2/ When Khomeini took over, the typical Iranian woman had 7 children. Now it's a whole lot less. With no real infrastructure for seniors care and with the old ideas for taking care of the parents now gone, I wouldn't want to be one of those 7 children when they grow old.

    But at least Iran has no immigrants so there's that.

    They are already hyper-diverse, to their detriment, though good politics calls for putting a happy face on the pressure cooker. I’ve met Persian Iranians, Tajiks from Afghanistan (who are Farsi speakers), Kurdish Iranians, Azeri Iranians, Balochi Iranian. The diversity is baked into the cake, and the Persians have a pretty slim majority. One good whack from history and the place might splinter apart.

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  59. @Flip
    I still call East Asians "orientals" and my much younger girlfriend gets upset, saying it is like calling black people "colored." I don't think so.

    Is that you, Ray Lopez from Marginal Revolution? :))

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  60. @Anatoly Karlin
    Westerners care a lot more about this shit than Africans themselves.

    Several years ago Gazprom formed a joint company with the Nigerian national oil company called... Nigaz.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigaz

    Nobody in Russia cared. Nobody in Nigeria cared. The Anglo media had a field day.

    The rap music energy company.

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  61. @Dan Hayes
    Flip:

    A Taiwanese-American friend of mind bridled at being referred to as "oriental". No, he wanted to be referred to as "North Asian". I am only too happy to comply.

    A Taiwanese-American friend of mind bridled at being referred to as “oriental”. No, he wanted to be referred to as “North Asian”.

    Funny chaps, these inscruitable yellow devils!

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  62. I think the Trotsky quote is wrong. Wikipedia says he actually said “the Dialectic is interested in you”. I wish I were enthusiastic about understanding what that means but since communism is over, I’ll skip it for now.

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  63. @Bill P
    My sister-in-law once told me that one of the most terrifying moments for white kids in her majority-minority grade school was coming to Niger after being asked by the teacher to recite the names of African countries.

    But don't feel bad about the removal -- Facebook is just being super-duper extra careful after that Google algorithm kept on identifying blacks as gorillas.

    I had the same experience, in 4th grade.

    I was the kid the teacher picked to recite the word “Niger” as she stood beside the hanging map of Africa with a pointer in her hand.

    Because I wouldn’t answer, she told my parents it was a scandal that I was in the “gifted” program because I was clearly retarded.

    Homeschool your children.

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  64. New Boston Post has been doing some stories on accounts suspended by Facebook.

    At least in the instances it’s looked at, it hasn’t been an automated algorithm, but the result of user complaints. Even a single user complaint can prompt a suspension.

    See link below for a story on a website called Turtleboy:

    http://newbostonpost.com/2017/06/19/the-trials-of-turtleboy-is-facebook-a-bloggers-best-asset-or-worst-enemy/

    In this case, it looks like there was an organized ring of users making spurious abuse claims to keep Turtleboy’s Facebook account suspended.

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  65. @Anatoly Karlin
    Westerners care a lot more about this shit than Africans themselves.

    Several years ago Gazprom formed a joint company with the Nigerian national oil company called... Nigaz.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigaz

    Nobody in Russia cared. Nobody in Nigeria cared. The Anglo media had a field day.

    I am dissapointed. They should have used 2 g’s. It was a wasted opportunity.

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  66. @Anatoly Karlin
    Actually Iran has plenty of immigrants, around 2 million from Afghanistan alone.

    In fairness, they don't coddle them like West Europeans, but send them off as cannon fodder to Syria. I suppose this is a marginally better approach.

    Back in Saddam’s glory days he would round up people he didn’t like and accuse them of being Iranians (likely they were just Shiites).

    He would truck them to the border with Iran and dump them. Iran let them in.

    Last I read, the Afghans were doing jobs Iranians wouldn’t do, and for less money. An old, old story.

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  67. @Dr. X
    I studied Latin in high school and a little bit as an undergraduate. Therefore, I simply can't get exercised over words like Niger, Nigeria, negro, negress, nigger, nigga, niggaz, etc.

    They are all simply derived from the Latin nigrum, meaning "black," and derivatives of the Latin root appear in most of the Romance languages (noir, negru, negra, nero). Simple as that.

    Of course, you're not supposed to say "black," either... you're supposed to say "African-American," which is imprecise, because we're not talking about Boers, Berbers, and Egyptians who emigrated to America, are we?

    So, back to "nigrum" and such we must go, for the sake of accuracy...

    Right. Objectively, you’d think slurs like “darkie” or ” jungle bunny” would be more offensive. Yet somehow “the N word,” which simply means black, became the most offensive word in American English. Similarly, I’ve never understood why “oriental,” which just means eastern, is considered offensive.

    The gist seems to be that anything used prior to the 1960s is offensive, regardless of the etymology. I’ve noticed leftists starting to use the amusingly absurd “Latinx” as a gender neutral version Latino/Latina. They could just use the older, gender-neutral term “Latin.” But that’s what my grandpa says, so of course that would never do.

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  68. […] also why they are fanatically evicting bad thinkers from their “community”, even when it is hilariously illogical. So much for their AI, I […]

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  69. @Broski
    Some fool mod probably saw "Niger**" three times and thought you didn't know how to spell.

    It’s not dissimilar to the flood of outrage a while ago when someone publicly used the word “niggardly”.

    I’ve started to toss the word “snigger” around awaiting the inevitable.

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