I used to think racially integrated gangs only existed on TV shows.

Meanwhile, elite whites are intermarrying with Jews and Asians at very high rates.

This doesn’t bode well for white nationalism. Who’s going to be their constituency?

Amazing how the cops were on top of and ready for this. 170 arrested. Man, these cops should have worked Baltimore.

My father represented a chapter of the Bandidos a couple of times. The main problem he had with them was that in lieu of payment they try to offer him drugs or a roll with one of their “mamas”. They’ve generally been considered to be the worst of the one-percent biker gangs.

That was fun to click through. It could have been titled Fathers of Meth and I wouldn’t have known the difference.

I wonder how many of them will be convicted.

They may have a very credible defense under stand your ground:
I didn’t start shooting, I felt my life was in danger.

Since this mess went fists->knives->guns, it’s pretty hard to establish a culprit.

My first thought on hearing about this: wow, they still have biker gangs?

Blacks on discussion boards and social media sites like Twitter are spreading lies that the biker gangs involved in the shooting are 100 percent White and that they practice White supremacy.

If they were a White supremacist gang, they sure as hell would not let Aztec/Mayan looking guys like this biker Christian Valencia for example join their gang.
That Vato Essay biker does not even look White enough to pass for a Sicilian Cosa Nostra gangster, let alone look White enough to pass for an American Neo Nazi White supremacist who tend to be of Scots Irish and English descent.

He does not even look White enough to pass for an Albanian or Armenian gangster. His phenotype is alien even among White ethnic groups who do not have a very high percentage of blondism.

Laugh if you will but what does modern life offer these guys? A crappy job, a wife and family he can’t control and that doesn’t respect him, being treated like a child at best or a moron at worst by the respectable people, whatever crap he can buy at Walmart and whatever crap is on TV.

With the club, though, with the outlaws, they are *somebody*- somebody pretty messed up but somebody.

This doesn’t bode well for white nationalism. Who’s going to be their constituency?

Who are you referring to with “they”?

Waco should mostly be known for Baylor..now Baylor football, 5th in the country. Well, I guess the Branch Davidians, the giant mailbox, and Brann the Iconoclast comes to mind, too. But a bunch of gun-crazy bikers?! Good thing graduation just got under the wire before the biker mess….it must be SOME bar/restaurant since Waco is such a small city with a famously “dry” campus – no music scene like Austin…in fact, no scene whatsoever. They must have been “roadwarriors” passing through this Baptist enclave, and everyone was just too juiced to ride their bikes further, and, fatally trigger happy while arguing about money.

There’s a California based neo-Nazi Hispanic gang called the the Nazi Lowriders:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Lowriders

Vancouver’s most powerful gang for several years running was the United Nations Gang, a group made up of inner province whites with Subcons from Vancouver and Surrey, Cantonese from Vancouver, and was led by an Assyrian immigrant from Iraq.

They dealt in marijuana, cocaine, ecstacy and meth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_%28gang%29

Welcome to Costco. I love you…

I wonder if the yuppies in Waco look for homes in areas where most of the people have good ‘eyeball alignment.’

As for this situation, it’s nothing more than a continuation of the Hells Angels’ all-out war on the Bandidos that has been going on for well over a decade (probably more).

The Hells Angels’ strategy has been to reach out to smaller biker gangs, offer them the chance to ‘patch over’ by tasking them with the elimination of Bandidos in targeted areas. In this case, the Cossacks seem to have been the trigger men.

Read about the Shedden Massacre in which 8 bikers, 5 of whom were full members of the Bandidos, were executed one by one by Wayne Kellestine (himself an ex-Bandido). It was the biggest mass killing in Ontario in around 100 years, IIRC. In short, Kellestine was tasked by someone (Hells Angels) to eliminate this group. If he was tasked with killing all of them is not certain, he may have just gotten a bit too exuberant.

The Hells Angels are in many ways like the Borg, assimilating or destroying those who stand in their way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shedden_massacre

Boy, Sailer, you’re sure missing the Narrative on this one.

From Jenny Kutner at Salon:

Reporting on Waco biker gang killings reveals disparities in news coverage: How many synonyms for “riot” will the media use when describing white-on-white violence?

From Julia Craven at Huffington:

White-On-White Crime Strikes Again In Waco

It’s also not clear if the two gangs who went at it–the Bandidos and the Hell’s Angel’s affiliate the Cossacks–are mixed or if one was primarily hispanic and the other White. Also, it appears that several if not most of the dead and wounded were victims of the police and not of each other.

This mass arrest (170!) is meant to get these guys (and girls, there’s at least one in the list) off the streets for awhile. They don’t need any Hatfield-McCoy stuff going on.

I don’t know what the rules of snitching are but I expect that the vast majority will be released.

The arrestees should be representatives of five separate gangs here and there’s no indication that the individual groups are integrated.

I am acquainted with a number of bikers in my neighborhood and get along well with them because I am white, a veteran, and have a beard. Note that some of these guys are in their ’50′s and ’60′s. Steve would be a creditable biker, as long as he kept some facial hair and looked annoyed.

This is just warrior culture with no acceptable outlet.

The conspiracy theories should be interesting.

Jade Helm, etc.

There does indeed seem to be a lot of peculiar stuff going on with the government now, so I will keep an open mind.

They all seem to have a similar burly build, goatee, and glazed look in their eyes.

The Bandidos fought the Hells Angels in Scandinavia in the Great Nordic Bike War in the 90s:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Lowriders

The Bandidos have also been involved in a lot of violent incidents in Australia.

I was surprised to read of the Bandidos activities in Scandinavia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandidos_Motorcycle_Club#Scandinavia

A turf and drug war between the Hells Angels and the Bandidos, known as the “Great Nordic Biker War” raged from 1993 until 1997. It resulted in 11 murders, 74 attempted murders, and 96 wounded members of the involved biker clubs. In Denmark a law was passed in response to the biker war that banned biker clubs from owning or renting property for their club activities. The law was later repealed on constitutional grounds.[26]

On 14 January 2009, the Bandidos Sweden President, Mehdi Seyyed, was sentenced to nine years in prison for two counts of attempted murder. He bombed two cars in Gothenburg, in September 2006, with hand grenades, in acts of revenge as the victims had previously testified against him. Four other Bandidos members received shorter sentences for their involvement in the attacks.[27]

“Lagertha says:

Waco should mostly be known for Baylor..now Baylor football, 5th in the country. Well, I guess the Branch Davidians, the giant mailbox, and Brann the Iconoclast comes to mind, too. But a bunch of gun-crazy bikers?!”

Not to mention Elon Musk’s corps of space cadets. SpaceX’s test and development facility is in McGregor, just outside of Waco.

From what I read, the fight started over a parking space. The reports also had the bikers shooting at the cops, so I imagine that John Law will come down hard on these road warriors.

This is the first rumble I’ve heard about since the one in Laughlin, Nevada back in ’02.

Lots of Texas mestizos are half-white due to extensive White-Mexican intermarriage.

Biker gangsters are actually some of the scariest gang members you can deal with. While they’re violent and ruthless, they’re also well organized and (by underworld standards) have some degree of discipline. Compared to most American street gangs, the bikers are more effective and lethal. They keep a lower profile usually and like to hang out in small town biker bars. They’re also less likely to get in random shoot outs (lots of bar brawls though).

I would assume biker gangs are appealing to rough edged blue collar white males (and more assimilated White-Hispanic mixes) because they give them a sense of toughness, without the seeming retardedness (gang signs, baggy clothing, loud music) of NAM gangs.

This reminds me of something interesting I’ve noticed. Since the late 1980s, the govt has seemed eager to clamp down on white criminal/gang organizations, like the Italian-American mafia families, the Whitey Bulger machine in Boston, and the biker gangs. You generally don’t see the govt show the same eagerness in going after black, Hispanic, or other minority crime groups.

I always assumed maybe political correctness was responsible for the disparity, but I’m wondering if there’s another reason for this. Lots of these criminal groups used to give white men can outlet for their aggressive masculinity. By clamping down harder on white criminal groups, the govt is also suppressing white belligerence. From the perspective of a ruling regime that wants to keep dissident elements from ever threatening the establishment, it might make sense to specifically target mostly white militant groups. White males are much more threatening to elites than any minority group.

Why is my post not going through?

Wow, to an American this seems weird. Another example of successful multiracialism might be the Berber/black Muslim underclass in France, who wear the same baggy jeans and listen to rap music. Guess the future isn’t going to just have a multiracial interracial overclass, but various multiracial underclasses and criminal subcultures too.

Biker gangs are an older crowd than street gangs. It’s best to think of them as a midway point between street gangs and well-organized crime like the various mafiosos.

Basically, these are big, older uncouth thugs who aren’t smart enough or sophisticated enough to become Dons and heads of crime families and cartels, but aren’t the haphazard kids-joining-together-and-calling-it-a-gang like black gangs are. It’s telling that many older hispanic thugs who aren’t in the drug cartel families become bikers and don’t just become street-gang leaders; the former is seen as a step up.

Many of the organized crime gangs use the bikers as distributors because they are organized, disciplined, and will follow through on deals; black and puerto rican street gangs aren’t reliable or intelligent and will try to rip off the dons, getting themselves killed and messing everything up. The old Italian mafioso used the Hell’s Angels for years to distribute drugs and run the strip clubs/prostitution in Canada (especially Montreal), and now the Russian Mob does the same.

This is just warrior culture with no acceptable outlet.

The Society for Creative Anachronism got about a hundred members together in my town this past weekend and they fought it out in a local park with buttoned swords, padded quarter-staffs, and armor, some store-bought, some homemade. Friendly, enthusiastic, white people. A good outlet for those attracted to a warrior culture but who want to lead otherwise normal lives.

Also, I’ve taken a number of combat shooting classes lasting from two to five days. These involve not only training but a certain amount of competition. I’ve met Asians but never an African American in one of these programs. Another suitable outlet.

Obviously we need Ross Hagen to go undercover to save us from the scourge of white biker gangs:

You have to be Italian to be in the mafia, and being a soldier in the mafia involves taking orders. It’s not really an outlet for belligerence.

It’s nice to see that Diversity and Inclusion have made so much progress even among bikers.

Yes, quite pathetic. Even the white criminal element seems incapable of drawing a line between in-group/out-group. A multi-racial gang? Such a thing is only possible in a situation where the majority of the gang is composed of whites, with the other groups piggybacking off of the gang’s success. Blacks, hispanic, Asians etc would never deign to share power/spoils with an outgroup in gangs of their own creation.

The Mestizos are basically just using the “capital” of the historical white biker gangs. I guarantee you that if these biker gangs ever reach numerical tipping points in favor of Hispanics, they will purge their white membership and become “Hispanic gangs” in short order. Apparently white bikers have not taken any lessons from corporate America or academia. lol. Pingting takes over the chemistry department, Apu grabs IT, and now Jose is going after the clubhouse.

That would be hilarious if five or six of these guys end up being the out of uniform special forces guys getting in place for Jade Helm. From the looks of it not, but then again who would have thought Frank Sturgis had an array of CIA contacts.

In what way did the Mafia ever threaten the power structure of the USA in a serious way. Gangs suck period. Gangs aren’t an outlet for masculinity the are organized psychopathology. If you can’t feel like a man without joining a gang then you are a psychopath. Modern governments love belligerence because it discredits their opponents and can be easily corralled. Gangs of all races, with the possible exception of Hispanic gangs, are in decline for the same reason now one joins bowling leagues anymore. Biker gangs get cracked down on because they are about the least inconspicuous gang members possible.

Too many people on the alt right have develop a fetishization of belligerence as long as it’s white people doing it. It wasn’t the scrappers like the sons of liberty that defeated the British it was ex-English officers and soldiers like Washington. Like Chesterton said-The composure of an army is the anger of a nation. That applies on the non-state level too.

You make a good point. The guys I know however are in mostly rural or semi-rural environments and spend their workweeks doing construction, auto repair, things like that. Being able to dress up, go to one of the local membership bars, and go riding around is a way for them to feel badass. I don’t think they’d go for Creative Anachronism or CW or RW re-enactors or paint balling (I’ve known some of them, too.) The latter tend to be more white collar.

Incidentally, my anecdotal experience is that they are not in fact always big burly guys (although there are those.) They tend to be smaller wiry guys. I’ve never known any of them well enough to know what illegal activity they are involved in, if any. I think they are just white guys who in a way don’t really want to live “normal lives” – they want to feel they are tip of the spear of something.

High Octane Siesta spoke too soon: https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/600099418633871362

The Mongols are overwhelmingly Mexican and they’ve been the biggest target of the feds for years, with the feds going so far as trying to ban their patches. Also, the Bandidos largest and most notorious chapter is in San Antonio, and it is solidly Mexican.

With the UN out in British Columbia it was an easy fit: interior BC whites around Abbotsford with all that land for marijuana cultivation, while subcons and Chinese with big cocaine distribution networks in Vancouver (and beyond) who would trade the marijuana with American gangs across the border and import the coke.

There are still a lot of subcon vs. subcon gang shootings in BC, and white on white as well, but it’s becoming quite colour-blind in many respects as allegiances shift and groups like the UN come into play.

There is a precedent though: Murder Inc. in 1930s USA was a joint Italian and Jewish operation.

When I was LIVING in Ireland (not vacationing) this was something I saw quite frequently…

White Irish kids with Muslim and Black friends doing drug deals with Muslims and Blacks

The Irish are really embracing blacks…there is no ill will between the two groups…it’s love at first site

There’s an upper-middle class Nordic group in Ireland…people like me…who are smart enough to be against all this…

But the true blue Celtic Irish really are a good match for blacks

And then of course there is the hostile uber-elite who imports more blacks (jews and what I call the traitorous Celtic Irish…or the root of Ireland’s problems for the last million years)

Low + High Against Middle

A by product of that Texan madness is that it serves as a timely warning to America’s blacks and other surly unpleasant ‘ethnic minorities’ that take blacks as their role models.
Their general meme is that whites are weakling, cowardly milquetoasts who can be bullied and plundered at will.
As the Waco madness shows, they are making a very big mistake.

Sooner or later they will turn on each other.
Count on it.

There are white, race based gangs like the Aryan Brotherhood and Public Enemy No. 1. There are biker gangs and chapters of gangs that are more race based than others, but they tend to be relatively more multiethnic than ordinary gangs because they’re all officially motorcycle clubs and most members are in it to ride and in it for basic motorcycle stuff, rather than involved in criminal activity.

HAs have never allowed blacks but they certainly had Jewish and whitish-mestizo and part North American Indian members for a long time. Hilly (Hillel) Kristol in fact put CBGBs in in the Bowery of New York, right next to the HA clubhouse, specifically as a biker bar- originally it was intended to feature the kind of music bikers liked, shitkicker country and bluegrass. He wasn’t a patch holder but he was a huge ex-marine who could fight, and they related to that and vice versa.

Many WNs have made the mistake of thinking that there is anything ‘white power” about bikers in general, and about the HAs in particular. There isn’t. Real “one percenter” bikers are totally centered around themselves and their club, riding and working on Harleys, boozing, screwing certain available women, and fighting. Dominance, fear-based respect, intimidation, and partying are their sole concerns in life and the criminal acts involved are just what they have to do to pay the bills. The concept of organization for any other purpose, especially political, is simply absurd.

Some other clubs, are indeed almost all mestizo today and the rivalry is huge: this latest skirmish is between a mestizo club and a white club, although all the whites aren’t all that white by some standards. However, white and mestizo clubs are mostly part of a common bikersphere, as it were, whereas black clubs-despite copying some of the rules and trappings of the others-are in a whole segregated universe. For one thing, the black bikers are generally not all Harley riders-many black clubs have mostly crotch rocket style bikes. For another, for all their faults the white, and for the most part the mestizo, clubs have strict standards about certain things and police these internally whereas the black clubs have no real capacity for internal enforcement beyond individual conflicts.

Even the mestizo clubs are less racial than one would think, as evinced by the fact that a Mexican club famously allowed (white) American BATFE agents to start a chapter in the US which they leveraged into a major takedown operation.

Well, Russia has beaten you to the strategy. Kremlin-backed biker gangs have been up to all sorts of weird stuff for years in our crazy neighborhood and now that they’re in Ukraine the United States is actually sanctioning a biker gang as a suspected special ops cover organization.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32452276

We got alerted to this stuff a bit early when the Finnish police decided to blacklist Russian biker gangs from the country without first checking whether Vladimir Putin is a member.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/04/11/the-strangest-thing-about-putins-appearance-on-finlands-secret-criminal-blacklist/

Oh yeah and the obligatory iSteve theme connection:

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/chechen-leader-kadyrov-joins-notorious-night-wolves-motorcycle-club/505779.html

Meanwhile, elite whites are intermarrying with Jews and Asians at very high rates. This doesn’t bode well for white nationalism. Who’s going to be their constituency?

The intermarriage phenomenon is real but it is worth pointing out that a lot of white/Asian partnerships are actually Jewish/Asian (c.f. the husbands of Amy Chua and Peggy Ornstein.)

But what do you mean by “their constituency”? That of the multiracial “elite”? I propose we leave them behind.

Or if you mean, “for whom will white nationalists vote?” then I propose you frame the question as, “what political faction will be looking out for the interests of whites?” and then the answer will be: none. Just as it has been since at least 1932.

The more things change…

Plus which, by prohibition, the Irish had very largely penetrated the ultimate “Outfits”, e.g., state and local governments, the American Catholic church, et al. The smarter Irish were cops, firefighters, politicians and priests, and wielded the real power.

Don’t scoff at priests. Diocesan Catholic priests, like the ones in orders such as the Jesuits and Benedictines, take vows of celibacy and obedience, but unlike the ones in orders, not poverty. Plenty of priests amassed sizable real estate, stock market, or other such holdings.

The Italians were thirty or forty years behind the Irish in such things. So by the time the Twenties were really roaring, the Irish who were hoods were the leftish part of their bell curve, whereas some of the smartest Italians were very much in the thick of things.

The Jews were a whole different ball game, particularly after Prohibition. It is incontestible that both the smartest and the most dangerous organized crime figures were the Jews. Had Anastasia been a Jewish criminal no one would have dared the barbershop hit. Almost all the Jews made sure their sons did not follow in their steps, though, whereas Italians considered it a matter of pride.

Murderous international drug-dealing biker gang havoc all over the news. Which translates into: Get ready for the Police Surveillance Security State to turn the screws further on all of us. Because, its minions will re-re-reassure us, this makes us safer.

“You have to be Italian to be in the mafia, and being a soldier in the mafia involves taking orders. It’s not really an outlet for belligerence.”

Henry Hill could not become a made guy in the Lucchese crime family because he did not have an Italian surname. His father was Irish. He could only be an associate.

Bit of a vaulting leap there. Are you sure you’re not unconsciously assuming that all these mug shot bikers belong to the same gang? Or that two or more gangs are equally mixed?

Maybe only one gang is multiracial and the others are not?

Noah Smith mentioned on Twitter to me a while back that he sees lots of interaction between whites and minorities among young people in Texas and other parts of the country. I told him, in my anecdotal experience, people tend to sort more when they get older.

Steve, no intention to slight you, but doesn’t this one look exactly like an older you?

http://heavy.com/news/2015/05/waco-texas-shootout-motorcycle-biker-gang-club-members-arrests-mug-shots-photos-pictures-slideshow-gallery-charges-bond-bail/53/

The BBC asks – Would it have been different if the Waco bikers were black?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32781477

Lol! I think SJWs like to fantasize that if the bikers were black they would have been mown down by the rayciss police.

Apparently some bikers were not handcuffed *gasp*! I don’t know, perhaps they were known not to be involved?

The iSteve commentator on a previous post hit it on the head…

The commentator said that in England there’s an increasingly Interracial Lower Class of Too Dumb to Even Be Donkey Voters Caste Growing.

That’s what’s going on in Ireland.

But the difference is, the Irish seem to be enjoying it.

I was in Texas just the other month at an event for very young people and I don’t consider Texas to have whites in it. At this point it’s more like the occasional remnant Nordic DNA popping up occasionally, but everyone under 25 is already a lovely shade of brown…with the averageness in IQ that comes with it.

There must not be a lot homicidal shootouts between biker gangs and they must not get arrested as much, that would explain why so many of them are old dinosaurs. With urban inner city NAM gangs, you don’t often see as many old fossils within their ranks because they either die young or they are locked up in prison and doing anywhere from 25 to life. By NAM urban inner city gang standards if you are 30 you are considered old as hell. But by biker gang standards you are still considered a spring chicken at 30.

Really,

see the Irish Daily Mirror for a report/video on a big fight between the Irish and Nigerians.

They’re playing with fire using white-on-white. Obviously it’s an attempt to even things out with the phrase black-on-black, but whites who say black-on-black generally do it as part of an effort to get blacks to quit their bitching – ie hey, it’s not ‘racism’ ruining your lives, it’s your own people – rather than from a racist desire to belittle blacks. I wonder if the unintended effect of white-on-white catching on mightn’t be that whites wake up and say, hey yeah, why are we spending our ourselves beating each other down? Why not redirect that energy towards non-whites? Uh-oh.

I’m Irish and having my vibrancy diversified is inclusively wonderful, going forward.

A RICO charge would probably work. Lots of phone calls, emails, meetup planning.

The Patel who owns the bar and refused to work with police needs to be expelled and sent back to India/Pakistan.

Hey iSteve remember the “The Aesthetes” of Morocco? They finally pissed off the Moroccans.

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2014/04/stereotype-unshattering.html

Moroccans Are Sick of Their Country’s Pedophile Problem

http://www.vice.com/read/is-morocco-replacing-southeast-asia-as-a-haven-for-european-paedophiles

Najat Anwar, chair of the Touche Pas à Mon Enfant (Don’t Touch My Child) association. “The official statistics on pedo-tourism are basically nonexistent,” she told me

I just love the reaction to all this. Don’t miss this one either: http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/05/18/407741060/heres-what-people-are-saying-about-the-waco-shootout-and-race

It doesn’t seem to cross anybody’s mind that a localized incident might merit a different response than city-wide rioting that extends over several days. Or perhaps the lesson they want us to draw is that some groups are more compliant with police officers, even when being arrested for capital crimes? Especially if the police haven’t been given an order to stand down.

I seem to remember that Croatian women married to Serbs usually followed the husband’s lead when it came to group identification.

In the UK the Outlaws don’t get on with the Angels – a few years ago a senior HA guy was shot dead from a passing car after an Angel-run bike/music festival near Stratford. IIRC two Outlaws were jailed.

You get all sorts in those clubs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358337/Tory-councillor-admits-secret-life-member-violent-biker-gang-Outlaws.html

Unlike Baltimore and Ferguson, the police in Waco started shooting the rioters. How many of these gentle giants were gunned down while having their hands up pleading don’t shoot? Why weren’t they just given space to burn?

#Bikerlivesmatter

170 bikers arrested on capital offenses. Imagine if the rioters in were all arrested and charged with arson, assault, and organized crime. Does the leftwing really want the same treatment that the bikers got dished out to the would be sons of Obama?

Daily Kos (per my annoying prog friends on FB), has an article saying that this shoot out is racist? How? Because of a picture showing a group of bikers next to a cop smoking and texting. The author presumes the bikers in the photo were arrestees and says the fact that they weren’t beaten (like anothe Baltimore Rioter picture they display) is indicative of the fact that they are white. To the author, blacks would have been treated more harshly.

Never mind the facts that the cops unloaded thousands of rounds indiscriminately, 170 were arrested, no cops were injured and the men in the picture didn’t appear to be under arrest.

How many cops were injured in Baltimore? Dozens? How many shots did they fire? How many protesters did they kill?

I don’t see the resemblance to Diaz-Balart.

I think you look a lot like comedian Doug Stanhope.

This is certainly true. There’s also a fairly well established pattern of increased MC participation following large overseas military deployment. Young males get out of high school and go into the service looking for a purpose. Some discover their purpose is brotherhood and danger. They get home and drift into club life. There a lot of veterans in motorcycle clubs.

Isn’t that kind of the subtext of Miller’s Crossing. Leo doesn’t have to run any rackets because he runs the city.

9 times out of 10 and vice versa.

This shootout is something that would barely have been mentioned in the national news if the killers and victims were black – black on black, gang thing, dog bites man, who cares. A multiple homicide involving whites is far more newsworthy because of its rarity.

Can someone explain why some of these gangs are named after ancient Russian warriors? Has that been around for a while or it that a new thing? That is, now that mainstream USA hates Russia again, it’s cool to echo Bogatyrs and Cossaacks?

Skimming through these mug shots is like looking at the last 40 guys who’ve changed the oil in my car. If Jiffy Lube had its own army, it could be a pretty credible fighting force.

This reminds me of something interesting I’ve noticed. Since the late 1980s, the govt has seemed eager to clamp down on white criminal/gang organizations, like the Italian-American mafia families, the Whitey Bulger machine in Boston, and the biker gangs. You generally don’t see the govt show the same eagerness in going after black, Hispanic, or other minority crime groups.

This is mostly due to supply and demand. There is a huge surplus of White, American federal agents, and a dearth of White, American organized crime. The feds spend a lot of time and money training all those White undercover agents, most of whom have very “Type A” personalities and want to prove their value to the organization. They certainly can’t infiltrate ISIS, al-Qaeda or the MS-13, so the most practical thing to do is sic them on bikers. Conversely, the FBI tries very hard to attract talent of Latino or Middle-Eastern descent, because there’s a lot of work waiting for those guys.

This is true on a local/regional level as well. I had a discussion with a police lieutenant a few years back in my jerkwater Midwestern city. He was lamenting the fact that MS-13 had moved into the area (he even pointed to the bar where they hung out) and they didn’t have enough qualified/experienced Latino undercover officers to infiltrate the gang.

Meanwhile in Chicago almost 50 were shot over the weekend by the usual suspects, accompanied by the mandatory hand-wringing. The liberal establishment doesn’t seem to care about these dead bikers very much, not as they do about dead black thugs because black lives are more valuable than anyone else’s, apparently. As of now reports are that four of the bikers were killed by police. There’d be an uproar if the cops had killed some thugs in Baltimore or Ferguson. In those cities blacks were attacking other people and their property and were a danger to the general public whereas the bikers were targeting each other and therefore presumably didn’t pose a danger to uninvolved people except for stray bullets.

The feds have been trying to slap the Hells Angels with a RICO suit since the 1970s. They can never make it stick.

They all have misshapen heads!

Normal healthy iSteve comment section skepticism of the media narrative is completely absent on this one… what gives?

Shootout? Come on…

There was a brawl, which became a huge melee, and in the chaos somebody’s snub nose revolver caught on a bandana or a chain wallet and went off by accident.

The cops, who were already shitting their pants at the thought of having to deal with some real badasses, panicked and opened fire.

The media helpfully stepped in to inform us that these guys were white and therefore deserved to die.

Best caption: “Christian Valencia, 26. He is a member of the Cossacks Motorcycle Club, according to his Facebook page.”

It is funny how the media stokes up the whole racial angle on Ferguson and Baltimore and then when there is rioting they focus on the racial aspects of the riots. Then when something like this happens they cry “why doesn’t the racist media focus on the whiteness of these guys like they focused on the blackness of the rioters?”

That’s assuming the bikers were shot by each other and not by cops, which may not be the case. If there were nine blacks dead and any possibility that some were shot by cops, Al and Jesse would be hot-footing it to Waco with an eager media on their trail.

This doesn’t bode well for white nationalism. Who’s going to be their constituency?

Hopefully not whites seeing as most of the victims in their conflicts are other whites.
I notice that in these discussions about the various gangs out there the main racket is alway that of the drug trade. How much of the public is getting high on illicit drugs anyway? That’s one huge business. Without that it seems their income would shrivel to nothing.

Mexican Mestizos are genetically roughly half-white in general. The Amerindian proportion is greatest in Mestizos from Southern Mexico and less in Northerm Mexico.

There are white, race based gangs like the Aryan Brotherhood and Public Enemy No. 1.

“Integration at its Worst,” and article written for American Renaissance by an incarcerated white man, made some interesting points about “white, race based gangs like the Aryan Brotherhood”–namely, that they exist only in prison, and only for survival.

I would say 80 percent of blacks and Hispanics are already members of street or prison gangs when they get here. Thus they already have a group to which they can turn for protection. Almost no whites are members of anything when they arrive, but a large majority end up joining. They see that the only whites who have some security either carry a shank or are members of gangs that will fight for each other–in short whites whom the other races fear. It’s only natural for these young whites to try to make their lives easier.

I cannot think of a single white gang here in Texas prisons that started on the outside. That is simply not the way the vast majority of our people live. And even now, after many years of existence, essentially none of these gangs has any true organization beyond these walls. This is not the case with the non-white gangs. The Crips, Bloods, Gangster Disciples, Mexican Mafia, Texas Syndicate, Raza United, and Azteca–just to name a few–are vast criminal empires. Most started outside prison as criminal gangs and simply maintain their structure on both sides of the wall.

White gangs are lumped in with criminal gangs of this kind, but even worse, they are the only ones labeled as “racist” or “supremacist.” So the irony is that although most of the blacks and Hispanics come here as full members of racially exclusive street/prison gangs who hate whites, we are the ones who are called “haters.”

http://www.amren.com/news/2010/05/integration_at/

There’s a show on HGTV called “Fixer Upper,” that’s set in Waco. Cost of living is crazy low ($200k is considered expensive). The married contractor and his half-Asian wife have exploited AFF to have a mess of kids.

That, The Branch Dividians, and Baylor is all I know about Waco.

This is a great comment. It goes to show how effective YKW mind control is. At a subliminal level the biker gangs are congratulating themselves on being the good little boys their indoctrination prepared them to be.

They will indeed be taken over once ethnics reach a critical mass. Only White People are stupid enough to fail to see how a gang is hugely weakened by outgroup involvement. I guess it’s just another example of the insane pathological altruism unique to Germanics.

According to Misha Glenny’s book McMafia, a survey of worldwide organized crime, law enforcement finds the Hell’s Angels almost impossible to infiltrate, with only the Chinese Triads being comparable. This is due to the long period an aspiring Hell’s Angel has to serve as a “prospect” before he’s considered a member. During this time he is expected to carry out orders issued by full-patch members, performing tasks ranging from cleaning up after meetings to engaging in extortion.

This whole affair smells. It now turns out that there were 18 police including SWAT Teams and an MRAP in the restaurant parking lot BEFORE the fighting broke out. That the fighting broke out in the toilet of the restaurant is also now suspect. I think the WACO police got some explaining to do. What biker is going to open fire on M-16 equipped officers wearing body armor? Did the police make any effort to break up the fight? There are no reports of police being hurt.

Not really…

Video EXCLUSIVE: Irish teens wield lethal weapons as they clash in vicious ‘race related’ pitch battle

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/video-irish-teens-wield-lethal-5698427#ICID=sharebar_twitter

A lot of broad faces in these pics – Wayne Rooney types rather than David Beckham types. Not too surprising.

Nice try Steve. What is obviously a white gang terrorizing and vandalizing a neighborhood gets the iSteve spin by trying to look for Hispanics and blacks that are also a part of the gang so as to avoid blame going to white gangsters.

There are also black and Hispanic gangs that integrate other races into their gang. Yet if a black or Hispanic gang terrorizes a town it will be looked at as solely a black or Hispanic gang.

“27 year old says:

Normal healthy iSteve comment section skepticism of the media narrative is completely absent on this one… what gives?

Shootout? Come on…

There was a brawl, which became a huge melee, and in the chaos somebody’s snub nose revolver caught on a bandana or a chain wallet and went off by accident.

The cops, who were already shitting their pants at the thought of having to deal with some real badasses, panicked and opened fire.

The media helpfully stepped in to inform us that these guys were white and therefore deserved to die.”

It’s possible. If that is true, then the gang that won – the police – will do it’s best to see that the story never comes out.

Mostly middle-aged. How do you explain that? Is biker culture a midlife thing? Are they die hards from a former decade? Can the younger generation no longer afford motorcycles?

This whole thing smacks of Adam Arkin playing a Neo-Nazi and a high-level member of The Sons of Anarchy singing Hava Nagila at a bar mitzvah.

I’ll have to give McMafia a read, as it sounds interesting. Regardless, there are a lot of other biker gangs for White American federal agents to infiltrate besides the Hells Angels.

For some strange reason a lot of pretty good looking chicks do hang around biker gangs (until the meth they use to keep them slim starts to have it’s age accelerating effect on their hair and skin), For a young guy, some crime, drugs and booze, and hot chicks screw at the drop of a hat who are subservient would be highly desirable.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. This was a violent dust up between several clubs. The Bandidos are primarily Latin, but will admit whites. The other, smaller clubs they brawled with are overwhelmingly white, maybe admitting the occasional “white” Latin, and contrary to what you might believe, there are Latins who identify as white in everyday life. The Hells Angels are a blatantly white club, but have admitted Latins and even a few Polynesians in the past, but no blacks. If anything, the Angels are whiter today than they were in the 60′s, and they were still 99% white back then.
Another comment above highlighted the likely reality behind this blow up, that the Hells Angels, as part of a long standing and very violent dispute with the Bandidos, recruits smaller, lesser known clubs to do their dirty work in countering the spread of other large outlaw clubs in particular towns and cities. So far it’s been a successful ploy, but occasionally you get huge blow outs like this.
These clubs are more than capable of drawing lines between in group/out group, and are about as far from being influenced by modern liberal pieties about race or gender as one can get. And once they get to prison, where many of these guys will be going after this, they will self segregate by race for obvious reasons, although White and Hispanics will create alliances against blacks in prison as the need arises. The Aryan Brotherhood have a long standing alliance with the Mexican Mafia in many prisons, as a way to counter black predation and violence.

This doesn’t bode well for white nationalism. Who’s going to be their constituency?

I mean, yeah, how could an ethnic group come through a population bottleneck, then spend the next 3,000 years being the world’s most ethnocentric tribe? Impossiburu!

White gangs are lumped in with criminal gangs of this kind, but even worse, they are the only ones labeled as “racist” or “supremacist.”

Oh there’s a white gang on the outside alright; they’re the ones who make the labels.

The protected, connected liberal media elite

I think it’s a good thing that ABC has done nothing to avoid the appearance of impropriety in the case of George Stephanopoulos. And I really love Georgie’s sleazy explanation:

And I now believe that directing personal donations to that foundation was a mistake,” Stephanopoulos said during an apology on “Good Morning America.” “Even though I made them strictly to support work done to stop the spread of AIDS, help children, and protect the environment in poor countries, I should have gone the extra mile to avoid even the appearance of a conflict. I apologize to all of you for failing to do that.”

Haha, he gave money to one of the worst charities in the country (something like 10% of the donations they receive goes to direct aid, right? Charity watchdogs put the Clinton Foundation’s ratings in the toilet, right?), run by the corrupt political family he’s been vassal to since before his media career started, strictly out of a desire to stop the spread of AIDS, help children, and protect the environment. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

This amoral little turd has outed himself. “The extra mile,” oh, poor lil’ Georgie. His only sin is in only being 100% good, not 110% good. And now we’re picking on him for wanting to help the children.

No, actually, giving (very) large political donations to the charitable front organizations of the corrupt political family that made your career and benefits from the media advocacy you provide in return isn’t “doing good.” It’s doing bad under the cover of doing good. If Georgie gave a shit about the spread of AIDS, children, or the environment, he’d give his donation to the entity that would do the most for those causes with his money, not the least. That’s what people with consciences do. On the other hand, if he wanted to assist his political allies, he’d give the money to them, and not some real charity that would piss it away on widows and orphans. It’s not the “extra mile” to make sure the people who claim to spend the donations they receive on x,y, and z actually do so; it’s called charity.

Of course, George can use the Obama Defense, and claim to just be a moron who can’t use Google for 5 minutes to find out what kind of “charity” he’s “donating” to, like the rest of the non-senile population does. And I’m sure he would. Democrats love to play stupid when crooked is the alternative.

But like I said, I’m glad this whole episode is playing out the way it is. Shows not just what Stephie is, but what ABC is, too. And the leftist corporate media’s reaction – or more accurately, the lack thereof – will show us what they’re about, too (hint: it ain’t journalism, and it ain’t sensationalism).

If the leftist corporate media fired or reprimanded Stephie, it might give the appearance of propriety, and that’s not the message the American public should be getting.

Get a copy of “The Last Godfathers” by John Follain if you want to see what the Mafia can accomplish and control. I’m going by memory here but I think they controlled one sixth of Italy’s GDP and managed to kill the Italian equivalent of the Attorney General. Descriptions of their violence are truly stomach turning. I read the book in one sitting and then thought about all the Goodfellows I had known during my days in construction. The US mob had lots of foot soldiers who weren’t Sicilian, they just couldn’t become members. Locally two members of , I think , the Rare Breed M.C., were killed execution style, within the past year.

I seem to remember that Croatian women married to Serbs usually followed the husband’s lead when it came to group identification.

Which is probably why Islam allows a Muslim man to marry a Christian or Jewish wife, but not vice versa.

That’s normal cultures though. In the US, whites are so stigmatized that I think a lot of whites use intermarriage as a way to check out of the white race, à la Jeb Bush.

Steve, Joe Kennedy was Irish and did quite well off of prohibition. Amassed a fortune that paved the way to the US Senate and on the White House.

I’m having a really hard time figuring out which way to tangentize this post (in an iSteve-approved manner, of course). Anyone wanna discuss movies where a cop has to infiltrate a biker gang or Hunter S. Thompson’s Hells Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga?

You have to be Italian to be in the mafia, and being a soldier in the mafia involves taking orders. It’s not really an outlet for belligerence.

I know what you mean. I was looking for an outlet for my belligerence, but I figured “accountant” was much more congruous than working for the mafia in collections, intimidating and beating up welshers. Where’s the outlet for belligerence in that?

Go look up some pictures of Georgie Stephanopoulos; does he look like anything but a slimy little shit to you?

Many of my left wing friends point at this incident and say, “look white people are just as bad” This was before the revelation the arrested are a rainbow coalition. My response is to matter-of-factly acknowledge the bikers are a pack of violent thugs.

I then ask them to name any one person, organization, news outlet or government official justifying or rationalizing what they did. They can’t answer.

They also like to ask if I consider the bikers thugs? I answer emphatically that I do. It always disarms them

This shootout is something that would barely have been mentioned in the national news if the killers and victims were black – black on black, gang thing, dog bites man, who cares. A multiple homicide involving whites is far more newsworthy because of its rarity.

Except that we don’t know the cause of death.

What if the hypothetical case is black on black biker fight and 9 dead due to Texas cops shooting them?

HUGE story!!!!

I agree with you that many of the Irish get along reasonably well with blacks and Muslims. For now anyway. It’s not particularly surprising because the younger Irish have been brainwashed since birth, learning about the wonderful and put-upon blacks and how just-like-us are Muslims. The numbers of vibrants in Ireland haven’t yet reached critical mass for their true impact to be discerned. That’s down the road a little bit.

OT: but this is one of the iSteveiest stories ever.

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/05/can-fieldston-un-teach-racism.html

I read Hunter S. Thompson’s Hells Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga as a teenager. It came out before he got famous with Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. He rode with the HAs for a while and got stomped once or twice. A good book.

I seem to remember that Croatian women married to Serbs usually followed the husband’s lead when it came to group identification.

My maternal grandmother was Croatian, my maternal grandfather was Serbian. She followed his lead and obeyed his orders. She was Catholic, he was Orthodox; she ceased being a practicing Catholic after marriage. I don’t recall them ever speaking to one another except to argue in German, I think it was.

As a teen, my mother got permission from her mother to do something. She said to her father, “Daddy, can I do thus and so? Mother says it’s all right.” He said, “What does your mother know? She was a Catholic when I married her.”

Look to Australia for some creative solutions.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3051434/Banned-life-Millionaire-bikie-gang-boss-known-Maltese-Falcon-refused-returning-Australia-landmark-case.html

No , the first time I saw your picture I thought “perp”.

BTW , TSG has a mugshot section that is often amusing/depressing . They used to put the charge up with the photo but I guess they got lazy .

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots

The Friday Photo Fun Match Game can be fun too :

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/internet/friday-photo-fun-match-game-515943

Road Warriors… Come out to play.

Was the woman Charlize Theron? Maybe they were shooting a Mad Max scene and it got out of hand.

Talk going around on some of the biker sites says that all of the dead were shot by the cops. Something some of the commenters are questioning is that in the pictures of the bikers the patches and vests look clean and new.

After looking through the mugshots, some random observations:

1.A lot of these guys have wide faces.Isn’t there some kind of correlation between social class and facial width, with leaner, more dolichocephalic features being regarded as more aristocratic?Here’s an old Steve post on the topic of facial width and class perceptions:

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2013/03/facial-width-and-class.html

2.Aren’t you a little old for this? A surprisingly large number of these guys are 40+.I always thought that this kind of thuggish violence was a young man’s game.Guess not.

3.The hard-knock life leaves its mark.None of these guys look, shall we say, well-preserved.Even the younger ones in their 20s lack a youthful cast to their features

Diocesan priests are secular clergy, Jesuits and Benedictines are regular (following a rule) clergy. Regular clergy take vows of poverty, chastity and obedience. Secular clergy are obliged to remain chaste and obedient to their superiors by canon law and their economic circumstances are also circumscribed by canon law.

Can. 286 Clerics are forbidden to practise commerce or trade, either personally or through another, for their own or another’s benefit, except with the permission of the lawful ecclesiastical authority.

The hard-knock life leaves its mark.None of these guys look, shall we say, well-preserved.Even the younger ones in their 20s lack a youthful cast to their features</i

Yeah, the effects of meth don’t flatter anyone.

The hard-knock life leaves its mark.None of these guys look, shall we say, well-preserved.Even the younger ones in their 20s lack a youthful cast to their features</i
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Yeah, meth’s effects don’t flatter anyone.

White flight is slow motion ethnic cleansing. The mechanism is low-level violent crime mostly effecting the young so it’s the parents with young children who move away leaving the older generation behind so I’d guess the current age distribution of Texas biker gangs might result from that general pattern i.e. a decreasing number of new recruits.

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I don’t know but I wouldn’t take the racial integration line at face value just yet. Younger Mexican bike gangs pushing out aging White gangs seems more likely (or Mexican vs mixed ).

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The media’s annoyed response is because the police blasting white gunmen spoils the narrative.

It spoils the narrative so well – at least it would if the media cared about honesty at all – that if the police were dumb enough to think the media was honest and neutral and not simply anti-white – which they are (police dumb enough to believe it I mean) – then they might think a big police massacre like this would get the media off their back: “look we just randomly shot a lot of white dudes will you leave us alone now?”

Yeah, the marginalized are never going to accept the straights. Is an undercover cop going to “turn out” a lady friend to the entire club membership to gain acceptance? I don’t think so.

As Thompson found out, it doesn’t matter how comfortable they become with you being around, eventually they’re going to kick the crap out of you. You’re just not one of them.

In general I agree but his guy looks pretty good for 61 :

http://heavy.com/news/2015/05/waco-texas-shootout-motorcycle-biker-gang-club-members-arrests-mug-shots-photos-pictures-slideshow-gallery-charges-bond-bail/28/

Off Topic:

Steve, I just discovered that Amazon provides evidence for Bailey’s thesis that transgenderism is, for many men, a bizarre sexual fetish.

Behold, the sub-culture of self-published transgender romance novels.

Prediction:

You won’t see biker gangs suddenly wearing colors or holding up signs that say BIKER LIVES MATTER!

You won’t see Social Justice Warriors or milquetoast churches’ signboards saying that either.

The distinction between the Ferguson & Baltimore insurrections-cum-mass-lootings and this latest lethal biker brouhaha? Simple: in Ferguson & Baltimore the black criminal underclass, with massive support from Enemedia-Pravda and Social Justice Warriors arriving from all over the woodwork, took advantage of political Black Grievance-Shakedown Industry protests to loot, vandalize and burn; in Waco the biker mayhem was not a case of bikers taking advantage of a protest, as it was an out-and-out brawl from the get-go.

Vancouver’s most powerful gang for several years running was the United Nations Gang…

All kinds of trash come together at the landfill. Except the high-tech stuff, which goes elsewhere.

OK this is weird. I fully agree that the media treatment of this is typically hypocritical, while at the same time calling out themselves (???) for being unfair to blacks in their coverage. Fine, Narrative control at work, SJW’s being tools as usal.

BUT, what is with all the bizarre Biker Pride on display on here? Are Race Realists really just the Racists their foes call them, happy for any type of pathology and violence, so long as the perps are honkies? Bikers are more betterly criminals than black gangs! This is just normal warrior culture forced on poor blue collar guys by SWPL’s!

Gimme a break. Its one thing to call out the counterfactual and weird focus on marginal white prison gangs and the occasional nazi biker or the few remaining impoverished Kluxers as the Ultimate Evil comparable to the Wermacht war machine and behind all crime … Its another to then fall into lionizing these antisocial, cross eyed, gap toothed criminals as icons of White Pride. If this is what Race Realists think, we deserve our enemy’s scorn and suspicion.

One of the guys looks like Brad Pitt…

Your comment is a bit absurd. You saw drug dealers and from that you generalize to the (young people of) the pop. as a whole? Say Whaaaat?? Blacks are pure hell in any society they reside in. Pure hell;you know that. Your comment re Texas would seem to indicate you’re out to lunch—perhaps you bought some goods from Messers. O’Brien and Oggabolongo back in Ireland??–as Steve has written about the high position of Texas in academic performance. Mestizoes didn’t build that!

The annual Bike Fest is this weekend in Myrtle Beach. In light of the events in Waco think there will be MRAPS and SWAT teams patrolling the streets where black bikers are congregating. I don’t.

http://www.blackbikeweek.us/

I think it needs to be noted that diversity of this quality doesn’t usually just happen by accident. The Diversity Coordinators for these two fine organizations should be recognized for the obvious quality of their community outreach and inclusion efforts toward minority communities – affording members of those communities opportunities to live the biker gang life that they might not otherwise have had. But you know who the real beneficiaries of those efforts are? The gangs themselves. They can only benefit from having such a rich variety of viewpoints on critical issues that wouldn’t necessarily be present in an all white gang. Whether it be discussions on killing and intimidation techniques, potential drug markets or supply routes, sourcing of bike parts, or other critical issues, I have full confidence that these voices of color are able to open some eyes to possibilities previously overlooked. This just proves that there is so much more we can accomplish when we embrace diversity as a strength.

“Vancouver’s most powerful gang for several years running was the United Nations Gang, a group made up of inner province whites with Subcons from Vancouver and Surrey, Cantonese from Vancouver, and was led by an Assyrian immigrant from Iraq.”

Sounds an awful lot like the gang that fought Jackie Chan in “Rumble in the Bronx” (which was of course, filmed in Vancouver). I guess they really do take integration seriously up North.

From A History of War by Keegan, in the context of Napoleon’s march on Moscow,

The involvement of the Cossacks was in itself a guarantee that incenderism, pillage, rape, murder and a hundred other outrages would abound, for to the Cossacks war was not politics but a culture and a way of life.

170 bikers arrested in Waco for fighting among themselves. 82 Americans murdered by the ATF and FBI in Waco in 1993, yet Janet Reno not arrested.

Regarding the “Great Nordic Bike War” and so-called “outlaw” bikers in Canada – what do they do in the winter?

On 2 and 3: you haven’t been around working-class people much, I take it. John Waters has a term for these folks: “Extreme White People”.

I wonder if these bikers that are in their 50s (& 60s!) woke up after their first night in the county jail after the Waco arrests and thought, “I’m getting too old for this!”

Did you see who owned the Breastaurant?

A bunch of Indian Brothers!!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3088301/Revealed-party-hard-multimillionaire-breastaurant-owners-ignored-police-warnings-not-host-biker-gathering-turned-bloodbath.html

Oh Diversity! What a great country we live in!

Can I leave now please?

Where’s the outlet for belligerence in that?

The belligerence is all verbal.

No innocent civilians were harmed in the shootout between the biker gangs. When Black gangs shoot at each other there is always innocent civilians who get shot.

White criminals are just better shooters on average than Black criminals. Most Black criminals do not even know how to properly hold a gun. Most of them hold it sideways gangsta style to emulate what they see in hood movies like “Menace To Society” and hood television shows like “The Wire”.

He’s a textbook specimen of a manlet. Case closed.

In the winter, they join knitting clubs.

The Mongols MC was started by Mexicans who wanted to join the Hells Angels but were rejected because they were Mexican. The Hells Angels are a predominantly white MC. The Mongols are predominantly Mexican although they do have white and other non-Mexican members. Jesse Ventura was a member of the Mongols.

The Bandidos are a large MC with an international presence. They have chapters in the US that are predominantly Hispanic and others that are predominantly white. They have chapters in Europe and Australia that are predominantly white if only because there are no Hispanics there.

Looks like the cops had advance notice from an informant and came in heavily armed complete with an armored vehicle. They used deadly force right away and the number of dead and wounded resulting from police action gets higher as details come out. I wonder if there’s any federal involvement with the police in this.

When the forensics come in, at least 80% of the hits will be from 5.56mm M4 carbine fire. Biker gangs really aren’t very good at pistol fighting, but this particular shooting scrape had a high body count, with hundreds of rounds expended; yet no stray hits on bystanders. This affair will be a long term employment opportunity for a whole battalion of criminal and civil lawyers for years to come.

Well they are about the only organized whites around outside of groups like the Amish, Mennonites, Irish Travelers. The RR’s/HBD’ers are like stray cats, they can’t organize worth squat. In a way it’s just bizarre, the high IQ set can’t even do what a bunch of low brow knuckle draggers accomplished. Create a national organization that looks out after it’s own and create it’s own community and brotherhood.

Even going outside of the RR’s to more mainstream conservative whites, they are equally powerless and disorganized. Though they did try with the Tea Party, but that was rapidly borged by Karl Rove and his mega-donors who run the GOP.

It’s a critical failing of the more civilized and educated whites. And one if not resolved will lead to their dissolution.

These were patched members of the motorcycle clubs. To become patched, you have to be in the club for several years. Like any somewhat serious organization, these clubs are dominated by middle-aged and older males.

You might be confusing belligerence with psychopathy. The mafia prefers stone-cold killers and psychopaths like Richard “The Iceman” Kuklinski, not belligerent types:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kuklinski

I can’t remember their exact name, but I saw a group pushing medieval martial arts.

As I recall, they had shields, but most impressive were the gauntlets http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauntlet_(glove)

These things are like brass knuckles on steroids. It wouldn’t take much of a blow to knock someone senseless.

Anyway. I was chatting with one of the guys, and his pitch is that we stupidly adopted Asian martial arts as the gold standard of hand to hand combat. Along with came all the Asian, Zenish shit. Meanwhile Westerners were duking it out with some heavy duty shit for as long or longer than their Eastern counterparts.

These guys weren’t impressive as fighters, but loved the idea. I suppose in America, Mr Colt made this stuff irrelevant in the later 19th century. George Washington favored buck and ball … http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_and_ball
They still had some of them around during the Civil War and they got good results during close range fighting.

For me, I wanna outsource my fighting. In Dodge City, they had to check their guns at the door of the Long Branch. The whole idea was to take the ‘lawless’ west and set it up so you didn’t *need* individual firearms in the urban areas.

If I were going to do a motorcycle deal, I would go with Ducatti or BMW bikes, pained black with every stealth feature offered. That plus a black helmet with a face shield beats the hell out of a hoodie. As opposed to the whole ‘biker’ deal with no helmet, all sorts of tats, and the whole deal. The whole bike gang is designed to be marginal. Check out Daniel Craig in Layer Cake (cool movie). Or how about those Israeli hit guys who were taking out the Iranian nuclear scientists. We should be so lucky to have our hells angels clones

The bikers couldn’t plausibly claim to be massing for redress of grievances.

>>On 14 January 2009, the Bandidos Sweden President, Mehdi Seyyed, was sentenced to nine years in prison for two counts of attempted murder.

Mehdi Seyeed, Bandido president! This is the most encouraging news out of Sweden in decades.

White males are much more threatening to elites than any minority group.

White males are neither a physical nor an intellectual threat to the elites. They’re like seals being played with by orcas.

Non-liberal, non-elite white males tend to fall for bogus groups like Teaparty and bogus leaders like Beck, Coulter, etc. etc. They tend to fall for “we’ll divide to make it easier for you to conquer” ideologies like libertarianism.

Don’t just take it from me: look at what’s actually happening. Groups like ACLU, NCLR, etc. consistently get their way while non-liberal, non-elite white males put their hopes in charlatans who only want to sell them books.

I think there’s a 47% chance you’re right about this.

OT: Good article WSJ article on 70-year old Bob Seger’s “Night Moves”…

Creating Bob Seger’s ‘Night Moves’ – Bob Seger took six months to write ‘Night Moves,’ the song that made him a star

http://www.wsj.com/articles/creating-bob-segers-night-moves-1432056405

Through the late 1960s and early ’70s, Detroit-area singer-songwriter Bob Seger struggled to achieve more than Midwest fame…That started to change with the 1976 release of “Live Bullet,” a double-LP concert album that displayed his skills with the Silver Bullet Band and became a surprise hit.

Buoyed by renewed interest from his label, Capitol Records, Mr. Seger set out to write an album that would maximize his momentum. Songs from that album such as “Fire Down Below,” “Main Street,” and “Rock and Roll Never Forgets,” became hits, but it was the title track, “Night Moves,” that reached No. 4 on the Billboard chart and catapulted Mr. Seger to stardom.

The song, a reminiscence of a summer fling, opens with Mr. Seger strumming an acoustic guitar and singing a quiet description of himself as a teenager: “I was a little too tall, could’ve used a few pounds. Tight pants, points, hardly renown.”

The “Night Moves” album is being rereleased June 16 as a vinyl LP. Mr. Seger, now 70 years old, recently wrapped up a concert tour for his latest album, “Ride Out.” He recalled writing the song and fine-tuning it to get just the right sound…The original germ for “Night Moves” was seeing “American Graffiti” [released in 1973]. That was us. Cruising at night, going through drive-ins, and the mental process when your hormones are raging. I wrote the song when I was almost 30, and I was talking about when I was 17.

I had kind of a tough childhood growing up, but after my dad left, things kind of calmed down. It was just my brother and my mother and myself, and we all worked jobs. And in high school I had a bunch of new friends. We used to have these parties called “grassers.” We’d all go out in some farmer’s field in Ann Arbor and dance. One guy had an upside-down record player in his car that he’d attach to the battery and everyone would play their favorite 45s. That’s where I got, “Out past the cornfields where the woods got heavy, out in the back seat of my ’60 Chevy.” I actually had a ’62, but ’60 sang better.

There are two references to “points” in the first verse: shoes and bosom. Back then we wore Ban-Lon shirts, tight jeans and pointed boots like the black musicians wore on stage. And I did have a dark-haired girlfriend, Italian. We were using each other. Trying things out. What can I say? Night moves! The song was sexy, but in a subtle way.

I really liked the title because it was two-edged. It had a duality to it. “Workin’ on our night moves”—our moves with girls—and “Ain’t it funny how the night moves”—what you remember as you’re getting older.

I had taken some time off the road to write. I had some money from “Live Bullet” so I bought a nice house. Nothing spectacular, but it had a huge basement so the band could play. I wrote my brains out. The one that got me stuck was “Night Moves.” It took me six months to write. I had the ending [“I woke last night to the sound of thunder, how far off I sat and wondered”] but I didn’t know how to get there.

What broke me free was listening to Bruce Springsteen’s album “Born to Run.” On the last song, “Jungleland,” he did the bridge and slowed down the last verse, but it’s not the same chords as the first. Almost like a double bridge. I said, “Wow, OK, that’ll be my structure.”

In there is the line, “Started humming a song from 1962.” The song I was thinking about is “Be My Baby,” sung by Ronnie Spector. I always loved her voice…

I counted two women, Ester Weaver and Julie Perkins. I also counted one retiree from the Stratford-Upon-Avon Theatre Group here.

Article expressing elite surprise at White America’s passive acceptance of demographic and political irrelevance:

Whites Surprisingly Chill About Becoming Minority

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-05-19/whites-surprisingly-chill-about-becoming-minority

I like how edgy thinker Sailer takes the time to be pithy about Waco but wouldn’t mention a thing about when some vibrancy came to Garland, TX even though it had all the markings of an iSteve post.

Oh well, begging Tyler Cowen for attention takes time.

Will the police deploy MRAPS and SWAT teams in Myrtle Beach this weekend for Black Bike Fest? Better hope 9 black bikers aren’t shot dead by police.

“White flight is slow motion ethnic cleansing.”

I have to laugh when these sort of comments are made by race baiters. If white people are moving to safer areas, they are NOT being eradicated. They are thriving.

“Blacks are pure hell in any society they reside in. Pure hell;you know that.”

No more pure hell than whites, or Asians, or any other group of people.