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One of the weirder cultural phenomenon of recent years is the rise in publicly-expressed hatred for good looking young white guys. I didn’t notice it strongly until Sabrina Rubin Erdely’s classic “Rape on CampusRolling Stone hate fantasy in 2014.

It didn’t start to become visible to many until the Covington freakout when all sorts of blue checkmarks could discern at a glance the sheer patriarchal presumptuous evil of that guy getting a drum pounded in his face, even though if you looked with any objectivity you could see he was just a kid.

And today the Whole Woke World is in a rage over Esquire, a men’s fashion and lifestyle magazine, putting a picture of a handsome white youth on its cover.

The funny wrinkle in this is that racist hate propaganda traditionally stereotypes The Other as ugly, not attractive. The Current Year prejudice that The Enemy is good looking has me thinking this is more about rape fantasies.

 
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  1. As Heartiest has succinctly put it: #PoundMeToo.

    You don’t hear the likes of Kamasutra Harris crying time-travel rape because she got paid for her services. At the time.

    Ashley Judd? Man, she sold low when her stock was high. And now she’s unwanted and bitter. #PoundMeToo!!

    • Replies: @Anon
    Wow, I'm shocked that a degenerate atheist scumbag like Heartiste would steal an idea from someone else and pass it off as his own without giving any credit. He comes across as such a nice guy on his blog.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsg5yUAj8gI

    Jan 28, 2018
  2. Steve, any thoughts on the passing of Lyndon LaRouche?

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    His conspiracy theories about the House of Windsor was American folk art at its best.
    , @the raven
    Hmm ...

    Mueller himself is no stranger to LaRouche; he was a key player in the 1980s investigation that sent LaRouche to jail.
     
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/12/lyndon-larouche-roger-stone-russia-robert-mueller/
    , @Anonymous
    He was nuts.
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    Is he really dead? How did he die? Did the Trilateral Commission put Novichok in his Jello?
    , @fish

    Steve, any thoughts on the passing of Lyndon LaRouche?
     
    He died?……You mean just now?

    I could have sworn LaRouche had been dead for twenty years!
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Steve, any thoughts on the passing of Lyndon LaRouche?
     
    I learned when in kneepants never to vote for anyone named Lyndon.

    Though Charles Barsotti once worked for another Texan named Lyndon who hated, hated, hated LBJ. I might have voted for that fellow, given the chance.

    LaRouche's best quality was his offbeat New England accent. Traditional Yankees hated, hated, hated FDR, but Lyndon loved him. Why? Well, consider that the only rural New England counties FDR carried bordered Quebec, and the voters had names like LaRouche.

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Old weird America
  3. But it is during black history month…and that is a thing now…why? I don’t know. What on earth is a “history month” anyway?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    And once again, an entire month of not mentioning the most important African-American In history, Anthony Johnson.
    , @El Dato
  4. Assquire is more like it.

  5. Steve,

    In April 2015, pre-Trump and pre-Migrant Crisis, you featured a reader comment saying that mainstream rhetoric regarding whites was beginning to resemble the fashionable anti-Semitism of 1890s Germany. That stuck with me, because a few months later the national conversation moved time forward several decades, metaphorically speaking.

    The catalyst was the release of Ta-Nehisi Coates’ “Between the World and Me.” Angry cranks have existed for a long time, but the national promotion of that book and the genuflection towards Coates was new. Coates’ post-2015 writings have become less about his being black and more about his feelings towards whites, and commenters such as John McWhorter, Ben Shapiro, and Tucker Carlson have begun to note that Coates “hates” and “despises” whites. In summer 2015, most hadn’t realized this. Back then, left-wing writers praised Coates boundlessly while the right-wing commentariat was distracted by Coates’ nuclear reaction to a middle-aged woman getting petulant with his young son.

    They missed the boat. Coates’ descriptions of whites in “Between the World and Me” were implacably, completely, and obviously hateful, even beyond his calling the 343 firefighters who died on 9/11 “menaces of nature.” His overall thesis regarding whites had two components:

    1) Whites are a “syndicate” (Coates’ word) dedicated to the “plunder” (Coates’ word, used constantly) of others.
    2) Without plunder, “‘white people’ would cease to exist for want of reasons.”

    I do not think calling these two points “his thesis” regarding whites is unfair. Coates would probably agree. It’s also sufficient: all the other things Coates writes about whites are corollaries to, or consequences of, these beliefs.

    Now compare Coates’ thesis to this passage from 50 years before Coates was born:

    “If the Jews were alone in this world, they would stifle in filth and offal; they would try to get ahead of one another in hate-filled struggle and exterminate one another, in so far as the absolute absence of all sense of self-sacrifice, expressing itself in their cowardice, did not turn battle into comedy here too.
    “So it is absolutely wrong to infer any ideal sense of sacrifice in the Jews from the fact that they stand together in struggle, or, better expressed, in the plundering of their fellow men.”

    Ignore the “Jews can’t fight, ha ha” insult from the end of the first paragraph, and what’s left is identical to Coates’ description of whites. While Coates’ whites are a “syndicate” dedicated to “plunder,” the Jews of Hitler–the passage is from “Volk und Rasse” (“Rasse” translates to “Race”), the 11th chapter of Mein Kampf–“stand together” to commit “plundering.”

    And both Coates’ whites and Hitler’s Jews would, without their ability to plunder, cease to exist as a cohesive unit. Coates explicitly includes Jews as whites in the opening pages of his book, so they’re getting blamed for everything twice.

    Now, I’m not saying that “Coates is Hitler.” He’s a better writer, for one. Unlike Hitler, he has no political ambitions and didn’t write his tract while incarcerated for trying to overthrow the government. Even if Coates did have political ambitions, his public speaking suggests a guy lacking the charisma to get friends to help him move, let alone lead a nation to frenzied mass psychosis.

    Nor am I saying Coates is quoting Hitler or even that he’s inspired by Hitler, though he has quoted Hitler in the past to taunt white Americans with Hitler’s admiration for slavery, Manifest Destiny, and Jim Crow. So, yeah, perhaps one of his sycophants like Chris Hayes could ask Coates if Der Fuhrer is a literary inspiration.

    No, what I’m saying is this: when a man writes ideas that, concept-for-concept and practically word-for-word, echo those of Hitler ***on the issue of racial hatred***, the media should notice. If they don’t and instead praise the writer without fail, we should be very concerned. The “Greviance Studies” trio in Portland actually rewrote a Mein Kampf chapter as a feminist tract and got it published in a social work journal. The media treated it as a joke equivalent to their paper on canine-on-canine sexual assault in dog parks. Bad job, media.

    So, as it stands, we have an award-winning, best-selling and wildly-praised book that describes a shrinking share of the American population with almost exactly the same words used by the most famously murderous maniac of the 20th century to describe the group he attempted to slaughter in total. And the book is filling up high school and college syllabi all over the country.

    There are assuredly other writings of Coates’ that have Hitler parallels. Just skimming over “Volk und Rasse,” Hitler’s rant that the pacifist claim of “Man’s role is to overcome nature” is “Jewish nonsense” reminds me of Coates’ denunciation of “nonviolence” in the wake of the Spring 2015 Baltimore riots. Perhaps comparing the rants of Coates and Hitler will end up creating, in your parlance, a “strange new respect” for Hitler.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    One of the more perceptive long posts I've seen on this forum. The only thing I'd add is that it's a tad idle to expect the Wokeistocracy to care one whit about internal contradictions in their worldview. In this case, if you point out how clearly they're channeling A.H. in their lofty pronouncements against the White Race, they'll just 1) shout you down 2) condemn you for invoking Godwin and 3) point out that you deserve it anyway, for being so white. If they act like A.H., it's what you had coming after all.
    , @Paco Wové
    "He’s a better writer, for one"

    You sure about that?
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    Now, I’m not saying that “Coates is Hitler.” He’s a better writer, for one.
     
    No. Hitler was the greatest fuckup of the 20th century, but he wrote coherent prose. Coates might strive for the crown of greatest fuckup, but even a halfwit would recognize the incoherence in everything he has written.

    Coates is only prominent through the stupidity, or mendacity, of Liberals.
    , @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    "The “Greviance Studies” trio in Portland actually rewrote a Mein Kampf chapter as a feminist tract and got it published in a social work journal. The media treated it as a joke equivalent to their paper on canine-on-canine sexual assault in dog parks. Bad job, media."

    That was a missed opportunity on the Grievance Trolling Trio. If they had ONLY submitted the rewritten feminist Mein Kampf chapter and then made a big deal about it, the conversation would have been exclusively about that. By including it as just another example among inane nonsense like the dog rape culture thing, they dilluted its impact. The media could draw focus away from that. The Grievance Trolling Trio missed a chance to use the media's Nazi cudgel against the POZ (I hate using "POZ" but what is a good name for the globalist SJW mindset?).
    , @duncsbaby
    The first time I heard the term, "white privilege," I knew it for what it was: a blood libel. Much like the blood libels used against the Jews, it was used as a code for "no matter what whites do or say, they are evil." This was long before I started reading Steve Sailer, I'm guessing about 2010 or so? I was a little slow to the realities of the racial crisis that's slowly been taking place in America and the West as a hole. Any white who doesn't realize it now is a seriously deluded or a traitor.
    , @bomag
    A key difference here is that Coates et al are propped up and weaponized by White people.

    I don't think Hitler had such support from the Jews.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Mostly agree and agree with the enhancements provided by other commenters. Coupla points:

    Most of Coates's experience with "white" people has probably been with the aggressively race-hustling, media-controlling class of Jewish white people. Draw your own conclusions.

    "He’s a better writer, for one."
     
    Do you think Coates really wrote all his own stuff? The guy's aspiration is to be a professional comic book writer. And he was a failure at even that modest goal. Between the World and Me is semi-illiterate, from what I've seen, and few people have actually read it. His better known Atlantic pieces, like "The Case for Reparations", suddenly evince polished, erudite, lawyerly prose, utterly different from his book/comic drivel, but not very different from the Ivy League prose of his uber-patron at The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg.

    "So, as it stands, we have an award-winning, best-selling and wildly-praised book that describes a shrinking share of the American population with almost exactly the same words used by the most famously murderous maniac of the 20th century to describe the group he attempted to slaughter in total. And the book is filling up high school and college syllabi all over the country."
     
    As I keep saying, in Genocide Watch’s Stages of Genocide ladder, the anti-white genocide is currently through the Discrimination, Dehumanization and Polarization stages.

    The only stages left are the execution ones: Preparation, Persecution and Extermination.

    Oh, and the final one: Denial.
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    The Jews becomes white, and then whites become Jews.
  6. Help, I Can’t Stop Hooking Up With Trump Supporters

    When someone asks about my worst hookup, I have plenty of options to choose from, but I inevitably end up telling the same story. It’s the one where I started arguing with a Trump supporter at a bar and then before I knew it, I was waking up the next morning in his bedroom. There were flags everywhere: Ronald Reagan’s face was emblazoned on one of them, “Don’t Tread On Me” made an appearance on another. I say it was the “worst” not because the sex was bad, but because, well, see above.

    https://www.glamour.com/story/hooking-up-with-trump-voters-essay

    • LOL: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @George Taylor

    Help, I Can’t Stop Hooking Up With Trump Supporters
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCnt-drXsiU
    , @Anon

    ... a Trump supporter at a bar and then before I knew it, I was waking up the next morning in his bedroom. There were flags everywhere: Ronald Reagan’s face was emblazoned on one of them, “Don’t Tread On Me” made an appearance on another.
     
    Reagan face flag? Don't tread on me?

    It's time to come up with a name for that thing where a member of one political extreme has weird, stereotypical delusions about the other side. Maybe smollecism (e.g., nooses and MAGA country)?

    It's important, since if you cannot recognize and get past your smollecisms, your hate hoax or your Glamour article pitch will sound completely fake to the people they target, bringing excess unwanted scrutiny.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    I'll take S**t That Never Happened for $200, Alex.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    Reminiscent of some 4-chan campaigns. I say trolltastic, but not Titiana McGrath-tier.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Before y'all dismiss this Glamour Mag story out of hand, consider that the authoress of the Esquire piece, Jen Percy, is an attractive (for a journo) youngish woman of the standard NY/journo political left who has nevertheless made a career out of following around handsome, virile MAGA men and writing disapprovingly about their milieu while continuing to follow them obsessively.

    "Help, I Can’t Stop Hooking Up With Trump Supporters"
     
    Jen, is that you?

    https://alchetron.com/cdn/jennifer-percy-53353085-b427-46bd-be4d-ba59f903098-resize-750.jpeg
  7. I have met a few people from the West Bend area. Small city of about 30k or so. One of them called it Mayberry. Maybe a cross between a much colder Mayberry and Point Place from That 70s Show.

    This was a town where young white guys felt they were getting ticketed for “crusing” every time they drove on the main drag. So a bunch of young guys at one point drove up and down the main drag until they all got tickets. Then they went all the way to appeals court until the town threw in the towel and got rid of the cruising laws.

    This is close to a village where the owner of a fast food joint put up a rather politically incorrect sign in his window after people complained about his Christian music over the loudspeaker. Eventually someone complained about the sign and it became controversial. The owner told me his business went up 30% when people tried to boycott him.

    • Replies: @Hodag
    Every summer I go fishing in his other town, Mountain. Spotty cell coverage. Pretty remote but very attractive. Nice folks. I suppose my name kinda gives away my connection to northern Wisconsin.
    , @J.Ross
    That's how stuff used to work universally (cf the militant communist being hated and driven away in Cinema Paradiso; "now" he would be the mayor) and I get the impression that many boomers are so complacent because they honestly expect those rules are still in effect. The fact that it's different -- that certain laws are not enforced any more, that new laws criminalize once-tolerated behavior, and that there are no consequences (and may be rewards) for lynch-worthy behaviors -- hasn't reached them. Heartiste has a picture of a ten year old boy dancing for homosexuals for money. It's not "Desmond Is Amazing," it's a different one, and this one is in public. That would not have happened in recent decades and not because of police.
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose

    This was a town where young white guys felt they were getting ticketed for “crusing” every time they drove on the main drag. So a bunch of young guys at one point drove up and down the main drag until they all got tickets. Then they went all the way to appeals court until the town threw in the towel and got rid of the cruising laws
     
    Maybe they can have a commemorative cruise every year down the main drag. Something about how proud they are.
  8. @Anonymous
    Steve, any thoughts on the passing of Lyndon LaRouche?

    His conspiracy theories about the House of Windsor was American folk art at its best.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    I can still hear him say Thermonuclear War. As in, "Do what Lyndon LaRouche says or there will be thermonuclear war." I think it was his version of a rape fantasy.
  9. Unhappy women are toxic and our education system seems to be expert at producing them.

  10. Ok, Add to my list of reparations…Blacks Have Right of First Refusal for Publication Covers. I’m good with that, I don’t buy magazines anyhow.

  11. @A-Bax (2)
    As Heartiest has succinctly put it: #PoundMeToo.

    You don't hear the likes of Kamasutra Harris crying time-travel rape because she got paid for her services. At the time.

    Ashley Judd? Man, she sold low when her stock was high. And now she's unwanted and bitter. #PoundMeToo!!

    Wow, I’m shocked that a degenerate atheist scumbag like Heartiste would steal an idea from someone else and pass it off as his own without giving any credit. He comes across as such a nice guy on his blog.

    Jan 28, 2018

    • Replies: @Joe Sweet
    My recollection is that Heartiste started weilding the PoundMeToo shiv virtually simultaneously with the hashtag it mocks. I wouldn't be surprised if Benjamin got it from Heartiste (directly or indirectly). In the clip he tells that joke a bit sheepishly which suggests to me he heard it somewhere else first.

    Heartiste is really smart and verbally clever as hell. I'll bet it came to him the day that hashtag became a thing.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    The Immoralist has been using it since well before Christmas, in my recall. It's precisely the sort of spergy wordplay he/they have always revelled in; (no, I am not going back to bog-snorkel through his lunatic asylum of a comment-section)
  12. Haven Monahan has led one helluva a life…

    • Replies: @advancedatheist
    These pictures portray Doc Savage, the hero of about the worst pulp fiction in American literature. The stories might as well have called him Arbitrarily Competent Man, because the character can pull whatever arbitrary abilities he needs out of his ass to move the story along. He never winds up in a situation where he doesn't know what to do, and the novels don't supply anything like a plausible backstory about how a man in his 30's got that way. For example, when did he have the time to invent all the gadgets he uses?

    At least the stories show how white men used to talk about women and people of color before sexual and racial authenticity became crimethink.

    , @Kratoklastes
    Like all the superhero-lycra stuff, all those images are very homoerotic-rape-fantasy-ish - camper than a row of pink tents, and faggier than Ted Haggard on a meth bender.

    It's really weird that nobody emphasises the connection between the vast explosion in incel/NPC-dom, SSRIs and the proliferation of pointless muscle-bound lycra-clad faggotry.

    Low-T, is what I'm getting at.

    It's unutterably faggy to get all "gooey in the fork" over pictures of strong-jawed muscular dudes.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.
  13. Ryan Morgan, a high school senior in Wisconsin at home. “I know what I can’t do. I just don’t know what I can do.”

    Become a YouTube celebrity. Monetizing vlogs, meme reviews, beauty tutorials, and ASMR videos is the future for good looking young white people.

  14. Whitey can’t give anything to coloured folk. Here blacks go around raping at a rate 7 1/2 times that of Whites, and Whitey still gets his face on the cover of a national magazine about rape.. During black history month, too. Must be “systemic racism”.

  15. @syonredux
    Haven Monahan has led one helluva a life...



    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f3/a7/96/f3a79696b2acea562b20dbbb818f90ab.jpg


    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4-uw5no1PNQ/U3ezbnqeClI/AAAAAAAAK_Y/iR97kKUljLM/s1600/Doc+Savage+cover-+original+art+-+c.1934.jpg

    http://houseofretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/docsavage34.jpg

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mjbB15dMgtw/UZllxxIvUpI/AAAAAAAAhCQ/jmTTwr2uprE/s1600/Image+(7).jpg

    These pictures portray Doc Savage, the hero of about the worst pulp fiction in American literature. The stories might as well have called him Arbitrarily Competent Man, because the character can pull whatever arbitrary abilities he needs out of his ass to move the story along. He never winds up in a situation where he doesn’t know what to do, and the novels don’t supply anything like a plausible backstory about how a man in his 30’s got that way. For example, when did he have the time to invent all the gadgets he uses?

    At least the stories show how white men used to talk about women and people of color before sexual and racial authenticity became crimethink.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    These pictures portray Doc Savage, the hero of about the worst pulp fiction in American literature. The stories might as well have called him Arbitrarily Competent Man, because the character can pull whatever arbitrary abilities he needs out of his ass to move the story along. He never winds up in a situation where he doesn’t know what to do, and the novels don’t supply anything like a plausible backstory about how a man in his 30’s got that way.
     
    Doc's training started in infancy. His quasi-crazy Dad wanted his son to be a kind of superman: master of a variety of martial arts (boxing, archery, judo, etc), fluent in dozens of languages, surgeon, etc

    For example, when did he have the time to invent all the gadgets he uses?
     
    If memory serves, he would spend several months every year at his arctic Fortress of Solitude (Yep, Superman stole the idea from Doc) working on his gadgets.
    , @Counterinsurgency
    Right, the "Doc Savage" series was subliterature, like all the lower tier "men's magazines" of its time and all the way up to the AD 1950s.

    However, think on this: Subliterature leaves everything out except the parts that its audience finds interesting, a sort of "uncensored abridgment". Savage and his group "went around the world doing good things", if I recall the quote properly. That's quite an ideal. Even if the readership didn't have any idea what "good things" were (it's not as easy to know that as it seems, even for engineering problems), they at least had the aspiration. Who has that today (c.a. AD 2019)?

    Counterisurgency
  16. @Cagey Beast
    His conspiracy theories about the House of Windsor was American folk art at its best.

    I can still hear him say Thermonuclear War. As in, “Do what Lyndon LaRouche says or there will be thermonuclear war.” I think it was his version of a rape fantasy.

  17. @Anonymous
    Steve, any thoughts on the passing of Lyndon LaRouche?

    Hmm …

    Mueller himself is no stranger to LaRouche; he was a key player in the 1980s investigation that sent LaRouche to jail.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/12/lyndon-larouche-roger-stone-russia-robert-mueller/

  18. I am delighted not to have a clue who this young man.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    His crime is being reasonably normal
  19. I hadn’t seen anyone complaining about this, and I read Slate just to see what the dummies are up to.

  20. Such bravery telling the stories of those whose stories are the only ones we ever hear.

    We have heard about entitled white boys. They suck

    white patriarchy hurts everyone, and it especially hurts you since it’s one of the major cultural schemes that lets you get away with how hateful and dismissive you’re being here

    The fact that this doesn’t bother you shows how out of touch you are

    Ask any Person of Color they will tell you white boys are rude and abrasive

    • Replies: @interesting
    Your lame trolls stick out like a sore thumb........I didn't notice who the author was but then thought this sounds like the racism and bigotry of that troll tiny dick and sure enough.

    "Ask any Person of Color they will tell you white boys are rude and abrasive"

    I'll ask my friends about this and I'm pretty sure they would disagree.
    , @gabriel alberton

    The fact that this doesn’t bother you shows how out of touch you are
     
    Speak for yourself. I'll not be able to sleep tonight due to that cover. The grievances of the wretched and brave people of color who valiantly died so that blank boy could illegitimately occupy that space flow through me, right up my leg.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    TD, I'll try that. I will ask a POC. I will say "Excuse me.." and before I can ask the question I will hear. "Fuck off cracker, wadda mean 'cuse me."
    , @MontanaOsprey
    I’m going to start a meme where commies, socialists, and SJWs get whacked in the face with a shovel. Guess who’s going to be on it! LOL
    , @Kyle
    Tiny Duck, I can no longer tell the difference between you and “Tiny Duck.” .
  21. @Paleo Liberal
    I have met a few people from the West Bend area. Small city of about 30k or so. One of them called it Mayberry. Maybe a cross between a much colder Mayberry and Point Place from That 70s Show.

    This was a town where young white guys felt they were getting ticketed for “crusing” every time they drove on the main drag. So a bunch of young guys at one point drove up and down the main drag until they all got tickets. Then they went all the way to appeals court until the town threw in the towel and got rid of the cruising laws.

    This is close to a village where the owner of a fast food joint put up a rather politically incorrect sign in his window after people complained about his Christian music over the loudspeaker. Eventually someone complained about the sign and it became controversial. The owner told me his business went up 30% when people tried to boycott him.

    Every summer I go fishing in his other town, Mountain. Spotty cell coverage. Pretty remote but very attractive. Nice folks. I suppose my name kinda gives away my connection to northern Wisconsin.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    I don’t get up to northern Wisconsin much, except for an occasional trip to the tourist traps (Door County of Bayfield).

    My kids have friends whose families have lake cabins in the north, so they get up there sometimes. Two of my kids went up north with friends during the time when it was snowing up north but not down here in Madison.

    One thing this article exposes is an older, less urban, overwhelming white culture in this country that hunts and fishes and enjoys life outside the cities. That is why I am glad some of my kids got seriously into sports. While life in Madison exposes them to exotic cultures such as Hmong or Tibetan culture, getting involved in sports exposes them to long-time Wisconsin families that hunt and fish, and sometimes live on farms.

    My mother is from Oklahoma. Her father hunted, and both of her sisters married avid hunters. I can’t say too much because my uncles were well known in their communities. But I did grow up with relatives who were very comfortable around guns.
    , @Fabian Forge
    Rhinelander!
  22. Anonymous[132] • Disclaimer says:

    “…The funny wrinkle in this is that racist hate propaganda traditionally stereotypes The Other as ugly, not attractive. The Current Year prejudice that The Enemy is good looking has me thinking this is more about rape fantasies.”

    Outrageous.

    Thankfully, R. Crumb crumbled that cookie long time ago (1993.) in one of his, nowadays mistakenly verboten, satirical spoof comics that exposes all the absurdity and vileness of America’s anti-semitism.

    WARNING: These comics contain explicitly racist and antisemitic images and descriptions
    that may disturb some viewers :

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1994/11/14/when-comics-aren-t-funny

    Why everyone on this forum dog-whistles like y’all come out of Ilhan Omar’s overcoat, anyway ?

  23. @advancedatheist
    These pictures portray Doc Savage, the hero of about the worst pulp fiction in American literature. The stories might as well have called him Arbitrarily Competent Man, because the character can pull whatever arbitrary abilities he needs out of his ass to move the story along. He never winds up in a situation where he doesn't know what to do, and the novels don't supply anything like a plausible backstory about how a man in his 30's got that way. For example, when did he have the time to invent all the gadgets he uses?

    At least the stories show how white men used to talk about women and people of color before sexual and racial authenticity became crimethink.

    These pictures portray Doc Savage, the hero of about the worst pulp fiction in American literature. The stories might as well have called him Arbitrarily Competent Man, because the character can pull whatever arbitrary abilities he needs out of his ass to move the story along. He never winds up in a situation where he doesn’t know what to do, and the novels don’t supply anything like a plausible backstory about how a man in his 30’s got that way.

    Doc’s training started in infancy. His quasi-crazy Dad wanted his son to be a kind of superman: master of a variety of martial arts (boxing, archery, judo, etc), fluent in dozens of languages, surgeon, etc

    For example, when did he have the time to invent all the gadgets he uses?

    If memory serves, he would spend several months every year at his arctic Fortress of Solitude (Yep, Superman stole the idea from Doc) working on his gadgets.

    • Replies: @advancedatheist

    His quasi-crazy Dad wanted his son to be a kind of superman
     
    The author of the Doc Savage stories apparently cribbed that idea from the way John Stuart Mill describes his upbringing in his Autobiography. Mill in real life clearly had helpful genetics to have derived value from this father's program of education, otherwise it would have gone to waste.

    Of course, the readers of the Doc Savage pulps in the 1930's still recognized the reality of biological determinism, before our intellectuals steered the culture into massive denial about it after the Second World War.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Doc’s training started in infancy. His quasi-crazy Dad wanted his son to be a kind of superman: master of a variety of martial arts (boxing, archery, judo, etc), fluent in dozens of languages, surgeon, etc
     
    Could be what happened to a prickly tough-guy commenter we all know! Despite all the world-beating mastery, the psychological costs have been harrowing. Same story with Tiger Woods, Dr. Evil, etc.
    , @sjj
    Actually both Superman and Batman were "inspired", shall we say, by Doc Savage. The DC writers essentially took the character of Doc Savage and split him into two comic book superheroes emphasizing different traits with each.

    Doc (Clark Savage) had extraordinary physical strength and sensory abilities (through training). Superman (Clark Kent) had all that raised to a ridiculous level. Doc was the Man of Bronze, Superman was the Man of Steel. Doc had his Fortress of Solitude, Superman had his - a direct steal.

    Doc had a vest with scientific gadgets he used for detective work and to escape traps. He also had a diguised warehouse on the Hudson River that held his collection of tricked-out planes, cars, submarines (and dirigibles!). Plus a secret gold mine that paid for all of his adventuring.

    Batman had his utility belt and his Batcave, and was a millionaire.

    As for the quality of writing - sure, it was hack work. The stories were written during the Depression for the pulps.

    Still, I find them interesting because they portrayed an America that had not yet been sapped of its optimism or crippled by political correctness.
    , @Chrisnonymous

    he would spend several months every year at his arctic Fortress of Solitude
     
    Now we know why no one has seen Haven Monahan.
  24. @Tiny Duck
    Such bravery telling the stories of those whose stories are the only ones we ever hear.

    We have heard about entitled white boys. They suck

    white patriarchy hurts everyone, and it especially hurts you since it's one of the major cultural schemes that lets you get away with how hateful and dismissive you're being here

    The fact that this doesn't bother you shows how out of touch you are

    Ask any Person of Color they will tell you white boys are rude and abrasive

    Your lame trolls stick out like a sore thumb……..I didn’t notice who the author was but then thought this sounds like the racism and bigotry of that troll tiny dick and sure enough.

    “Ask any Person of Color they will tell you white boys are rude and abrasive”

    I’ll ask my friends about this and I’m pretty sure they would disagree.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.

    “Ask any Person of Color they will tell you white boys are rude and abrasive”
     
    They also have bad features, you know.
  25. @Ragged
    Steve,

    In April 2015, pre-Trump and pre-Migrant Crisis, you featured a reader comment saying that mainstream rhetoric regarding whites was beginning to resemble the fashionable anti-Semitism of 1890s Germany. That stuck with me, because a few months later the national conversation moved time forward several decades, metaphorically speaking.

    The catalyst was the release of Ta-Nehisi Coates' "Between the World and Me." Angry cranks have existed for a long time, but the national promotion of that book and the genuflection towards Coates was new. Coates' post-2015 writings have become less about his being black and more about his feelings towards whites, and commenters such as John McWhorter, Ben Shapiro, and Tucker Carlson have begun to note that Coates "hates" and "despises" whites. In summer 2015, most hadn't realized this. Back then, left-wing writers praised Coates boundlessly while the right-wing commentariat was distracted by Coates' nuclear reaction to a middle-aged woman getting petulant with his young son.

    They missed the boat. Coates' descriptions of whites in "Between the World and Me" were implacably, completely, and obviously hateful, even beyond his calling the 343 firefighters who died on 9/11 "menaces of nature." His overall thesis regarding whites had two components:

    1) Whites are a "syndicate" (Coates' word) dedicated to the "plunder" (Coates' word, used constantly) of others.
    2) Without plunder, "'white people' would cease to exist for want of reasons."

    I do not think calling these two points "his thesis" regarding whites is unfair. Coates would probably agree. It's also sufficient: all the other things Coates writes about whites are corollaries to, or consequences of, these beliefs.

    Now compare Coates' thesis to this passage from 50 years before Coates was born:

    "If the Jews were alone in this world, they would stifle in filth and offal; they would try to get ahead of one another in hate-filled struggle and exterminate one another, in so far as the absolute absence of all sense of self-sacrifice, expressing itself in their cowardice, did not turn battle into comedy here too.
    "So it is absolutely wrong to infer any ideal sense of sacrifice in the Jews from the fact that they stand together in struggle, or, better expressed, in the plundering of their fellow men."

    Ignore the "Jews can't fight, ha ha" insult from the end of the first paragraph, and what's left is identical to Coates' description of whites. While Coates' whites are a "syndicate" dedicated to "plunder," the Jews of Hitler--the passage is from "Volk und Rasse" ("Rasse" translates to "Race"), the 11th chapter of Mein Kampf--"stand together" to commit "plundering."

    And both Coates' whites and Hitler's Jews would, without their ability to plunder, cease to exist as a cohesive unit. Coates explicitly includes Jews as whites in the opening pages of his book, so they're getting blamed for everything twice.

    Now, I'm not saying that "Coates is Hitler." He's a better writer, for one. Unlike Hitler, he has no political ambitions and didn't write his tract while incarcerated for trying to overthrow the government. Even if Coates did have political ambitions, his public speaking suggests a guy lacking the charisma to get friends to help him move, let alone lead a nation to frenzied mass psychosis.

    Nor am I saying Coates is quoting Hitler or even that he's inspired by Hitler, though he has quoted Hitler in the past to taunt white Americans with Hitler's admiration for slavery, Manifest Destiny, and Jim Crow. So, yeah, perhaps one of his sycophants like Chris Hayes could ask Coates if Der Fuhrer is a literary inspiration.

    No, what I'm saying is this: when a man writes ideas that, concept-for-concept and practically word-for-word, echo those of Hitler ***on the issue of racial hatred***, the media should notice. If they don't and instead praise the writer without fail, we should be very concerned. The "Greviance Studies" trio in Portland actually rewrote a Mein Kampf chapter as a feminist tract and got it published in a social work journal. The media treated it as a joke equivalent to their paper on canine-on-canine sexual assault in dog parks. Bad job, media.

    So, as it stands, we have an award-winning, best-selling and wildly-praised book that describes a shrinking share of the American population with almost exactly the same words used by the most famously murderous maniac of the 20th century to describe the group he attempted to slaughter in total. And the book is filling up high school and college syllabi all over the country.

    There are assuredly other writings of Coates' that have Hitler parallels. Just skimming over "Volk und Rasse," Hitler's rant that the pacifist claim of "Man's role is to overcome nature" is "Jewish nonsense" reminds me of Coates' denunciation of "nonviolence" in the wake of the Spring 2015 Baltimore riots. Perhaps comparing the rants of Coates and Hitler will end up creating, in your parlance, a "strange new respect" for Hitler.

    One of the more perceptive long posts I’ve seen on this forum. The only thing I’d add is that it’s a tad idle to expect the Wokeistocracy to care one whit about internal contradictions in their worldview. In this case, if you point out how clearly they’re channeling A.H. in their lofty pronouncements against the White Race, they’ll just 1) shout you down 2) condemn you for invoking Godwin and 3) point out that you deserve it anyway, for being so white. If they act like A.H., it’s what you had coming after all.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    it’s a tad idle to expect the Wokeistocracy to care one whit about internal contradictions in their worldview
     
    One rule of their religion is that: "Only Whites can be racist, and it's impossible to be racist against Whites."

    So they've got the contradiction thing covered already.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    Coates strikes me as an unusually weak-minded person, raised in a protective bubble of almost complete ignorance and unconditional adulation. If he wanted to learn more about actual White people, rather than the phantoms in his child's mind, I wish he could be exiled to, for instance, Serbia. For 20 years.
  26. The Current Year prejudice that The Enemy is good looking has me thinking this is more about rape fantasies.

    That has always factored into it, but in the present case it’s impossible to pretend that Esquire editors didn’t know exactly what they were doing by featuring The Enemy as their #1 installment in this series. There’s absolutely no better way to get people riled up and bring tons of attention (‘clicks’) to their tired old ‘journalism’.

    • Replies: @Anon
    I remember when Esquire was very much "New Journalism." Sigh.
  27. @Anonymous
    Steve, any thoughts on the passing of Lyndon LaRouche?

    He was nuts.

  28. @syonredux

    These pictures portray Doc Savage, the hero of about the worst pulp fiction in American literature. The stories might as well have called him Arbitrarily Competent Man, because the character can pull whatever arbitrary abilities he needs out of his ass to move the story along. He never winds up in a situation where he doesn’t know what to do, and the novels don’t supply anything like a plausible backstory about how a man in his 30’s got that way.
     
    Doc's training started in infancy. His quasi-crazy Dad wanted his son to be a kind of superman: master of a variety of martial arts (boxing, archery, judo, etc), fluent in dozens of languages, surgeon, etc

    For example, when did he have the time to invent all the gadgets he uses?
     
    If memory serves, he would spend several months every year at his arctic Fortress of Solitude (Yep, Superman stole the idea from Doc) working on his gadgets.

    His quasi-crazy Dad wanted his son to be a kind of superman

    The author of the Doc Savage stories apparently cribbed that idea from the way John Stuart Mill describes his upbringing in his Autobiography. Mill in real life clearly had helpful genetics to have derived value from this father’s program of education, otherwise it would have gone to waste.

    Of course, the readers of the Doc Savage pulps in the 1930’s still recognized the reality of biological determinism, before our intellectuals steered the culture into massive denial about it after the Second World War.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Also, JS Mill, after 15 years of intensive education fell into a deep depression from age 18 to 26.
    , @syonredux

    His quasi-crazy Dad wanted his son to be a kind of superman

    The author of the Doc Savage stories apparently cribbed that idea from the way John Stuart Mill describes his upbringing in his Autobiography.
     
    Dunno.My understanding is that Doc's upbringing was based on the backstory for Nick Carter, the dime novel superman:

    Nick’s father “Old Sim Carter” began Nick’s training when the boy was only a child. Old Sim’s goal was to make Nick as great a man as possible, and so put Nick through a wide range of physical and mental tests and brought him up to be a perfect physical and mental specimen. Nick is strong enough to “lift a horse with ease…while a heavy man is seated in the saddle….he can place four packs of playing cards together, and tear them in halves between his thumbs and fingers.” He was schooled in every possible area of knowledge that might conceivably have to do with crime-solving, including the sciences, various languages, art and physiology.
     
    https://jessnevins.com/blog/?p=458


    Of course, the creators of Nick Carter might have had JS Mill in mind....
  29. Confident, attractive, white guys are seen as privileged, arrogant, and disinclined to grovel before the PC crowd — hence the dislike of them. They are perceived as only wanting to date good-looking females and so forth. And that Haven Monahan would not grovel only helped confirm in their minds the worst about such guys.

  30. There was a semi-celebrity guy who expressed non-hatred for young white men, and in fact concern, beyond any tawdry interest, for the atmosphere of undisguised hatred young white men find themselves in: it was Milo Yiannopolous, who was targeted by organized mobs, boycotted, and bankrupted.

  31. @Tiny Duck
    Such bravery telling the stories of those whose stories are the only ones we ever hear.

    We have heard about entitled white boys. They suck

    white patriarchy hurts everyone, and it especially hurts you since it's one of the major cultural schemes that lets you get away with how hateful and dismissive you're being here

    The fact that this doesn't bother you shows how out of touch you are

    Ask any Person of Color they will tell you white boys are rude and abrasive

    The fact that this doesn’t bother you shows how out of touch you are

    Speak for yourself. I’ll not be able to sleep tonight due to that cover. The grievances of the wretched and brave people of color who valiantly died so that blank boy could illegitimately occupy that space flow through me, right up my leg.

  32. I think I found a drawing of Haven Monahan’s grandpa and his dad as a little shaver:

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    Yet another classic audio freak in our midst!
  33. @syonredux
    Help, I Can't Stop Hooking Up With Trump Supporters

    When someone asks about my worst hookup, I have plenty of options to choose from, but I inevitably end up telling the same story. It’s the one where I started arguing with a Trump supporter at a bar and then before I knew it, I was waking up the next morning in his bedroom. There were flags everywhere: Ronald Reagan's face was emblazoned on one of them, “Don’t Tread On Me” made an appearance on another. I say it was the “worst” not because the sex was bad, but because, well, see above.
     
    https://www.glamour.com/story/hooking-up-with-trump-voters-essay

    Help, I Can’t Stop Hooking Up With Trump Supporters

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCnt-drXsiU

  34. @advancedatheist

    His quasi-crazy Dad wanted his son to be a kind of superman
     
    The author of the Doc Savage stories apparently cribbed that idea from the way John Stuart Mill describes his upbringing in his Autobiography. Mill in real life clearly had helpful genetics to have derived value from this father's program of education, otherwise it would have gone to waste.

    Of course, the readers of the Doc Savage pulps in the 1930's still recognized the reality of biological determinism, before our intellectuals steered the culture into massive denial about it after the Second World War.

    Also, JS Mill, after 15 years of intensive education fell into a deep depression from age 18 to 26.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    What snapped him out of it? I've read that depression is largely a malady affecting intelligent people. Mill is supposedly one of the smartest ever.
    , @Kyle
    He probably wasn’t fully physically developed until age 26. Then attractive 18 year old girls started noticing him.
  35. @Mr McKenna
    One of the more perceptive long posts I've seen on this forum. The only thing I'd add is that it's a tad idle to expect the Wokeistocracy to care one whit about internal contradictions in their worldview. In this case, if you point out how clearly they're channeling A.H. in their lofty pronouncements against the White Race, they'll just 1) shout you down 2) condemn you for invoking Godwin and 3) point out that you deserve it anyway, for being so white. If they act like A.H., it's what you had coming after all.

    it’s a tad idle to expect the Wokeistocracy to care one whit about internal contradictions in their worldview

    One rule of their religion is that: “Only Whites can be racist, and it’s impossible to be racist against Whites.”

    So they’ve got the contradiction thing covered already.

    • Agree: Trevor H.
  36. @Ragged
    Steve,

    In April 2015, pre-Trump and pre-Migrant Crisis, you featured a reader comment saying that mainstream rhetoric regarding whites was beginning to resemble the fashionable anti-Semitism of 1890s Germany. That stuck with me, because a few months later the national conversation moved time forward several decades, metaphorically speaking.

    The catalyst was the release of Ta-Nehisi Coates' "Between the World and Me." Angry cranks have existed for a long time, but the national promotion of that book and the genuflection towards Coates was new. Coates' post-2015 writings have become less about his being black and more about his feelings towards whites, and commenters such as John McWhorter, Ben Shapiro, and Tucker Carlson have begun to note that Coates "hates" and "despises" whites. In summer 2015, most hadn't realized this. Back then, left-wing writers praised Coates boundlessly while the right-wing commentariat was distracted by Coates' nuclear reaction to a middle-aged woman getting petulant with his young son.

    They missed the boat. Coates' descriptions of whites in "Between the World and Me" were implacably, completely, and obviously hateful, even beyond his calling the 343 firefighters who died on 9/11 "menaces of nature." His overall thesis regarding whites had two components:

    1) Whites are a "syndicate" (Coates' word) dedicated to the "plunder" (Coates' word, used constantly) of others.
    2) Without plunder, "'white people' would cease to exist for want of reasons."

    I do not think calling these two points "his thesis" regarding whites is unfair. Coates would probably agree. It's also sufficient: all the other things Coates writes about whites are corollaries to, or consequences of, these beliefs.

    Now compare Coates' thesis to this passage from 50 years before Coates was born:

    "If the Jews were alone in this world, they would stifle in filth and offal; they would try to get ahead of one another in hate-filled struggle and exterminate one another, in so far as the absolute absence of all sense of self-sacrifice, expressing itself in their cowardice, did not turn battle into comedy here too.
    "So it is absolutely wrong to infer any ideal sense of sacrifice in the Jews from the fact that they stand together in struggle, or, better expressed, in the plundering of their fellow men."

    Ignore the "Jews can't fight, ha ha" insult from the end of the first paragraph, and what's left is identical to Coates' description of whites. While Coates' whites are a "syndicate" dedicated to "plunder," the Jews of Hitler--the passage is from "Volk und Rasse" ("Rasse" translates to "Race"), the 11th chapter of Mein Kampf--"stand together" to commit "plundering."

    And both Coates' whites and Hitler's Jews would, without their ability to plunder, cease to exist as a cohesive unit. Coates explicitly includes Jews as whites in the opening pages of his book, so they're getting blamed for everything twice.

    Now, I'm not saying that "Coates is Hitler." He's a better writer, for one. Unlike Hitler, he has no political ambitions and didn't write his tract while incarcerated for trying to overthrow the government. Even if Coates did have political ambitions, his public speaking suggests a guy lacking the charisma to get friends to help him move, let alone lead a nation to frenzied mass psychosis.

    Nor am I saying Coates is quoting Hitler or even that he's inspired by Hitler, though he has quoted Hitler in the past to taunt white Americans with Hitler's admiration for slavery, Manifest Destiny, and Jim Crow. So, yeah, perhaps one of his sycophants like Chris Hayes could ask Coates if Der Fuhrer is a literary inspiration.

    No, what I'm saying is this: when a man writes ideas that, concept-for-concept and practically word-for-word, echo those of Hitler ***on the issue of racial hatred***, the media should notice. If they don't and instead praise the writer without fail, we should be very concerned. The "Greviance Studies" trio in Portland actually rewrote a Mein Kampf chapter as a feminist tract and got it published in a social work journal. The media treated it as a joke equivalent to their paper on canine-on-canine sexual assault in dog parks. Bad job, media.

    So, as it stands, we have an award-winning, best-selling and wildly-praised book that describes a shrinking share of the American population with almost exactly the same words used by the most famously murderous maniac of the 20th century to describe the group he attempted to slaughter in total. And the book is filling up high school and college syllabi all over the country.

    There are assuredly other writings of Coates' that have Hitler parallels. Just skimming over "Volk und Rasse," Hitler's rant that the pacifist claim of "Man's role is to overcome nature" is "Jewish nonsense" reminds me of Coates' denunciation of "nonviolence" in the wake of the Spring 2015 Baltimore riots. Perhaps comparing the rants of Coates and Hitler will end up creating, in your parlance, a "strange new respect" for Hitler.

    “He’s a better writer, for one”

    You sure about that?

  37. @Tiny Duck
    Such bravery telling the stories of those whose stories are the only ones we ever hear.

    We have heard about entitled white boys. They suck

    white patriarchy hurts everyone, and it especially hurts you since it's one of the major cultural schemes that lets you get away with how hateful and dismissive you're being here

    The fact that this doesn't bother you shows how out of touch you are

    Ask any Person of Color they will tell you white boys are rude and abrasive

    TD, I’ll try that. I will ask a POC. I will say “Excuse me..” and before I can ask the question I will hear. “Fuck off cracker, wadda mean ‘cuse me.”

  38. I didn’t realize Esquire was still a thing.

    Pretty sad when the magazine that published Hemingway and Tom Wolfe has to get the internet’s permission to talk about a white guy during February.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Maybe they were just commemorating White Day.
    (White Day is Japanese reverse Valentine's: girls make a Japanese impression of chocolate for their boys.)
  39. @advancedatheist

    His quasi-crazy Dad wanted his son to be a kind of superman
     
    The author of the Doc Savage stories apparently cribbed that idea from the way John Stuart Mill describes his upbringing in his Autobiography. Mill in real life clearly had helpful genetics to have derived value from this father's program of education, otherwise it would have gone to waste.

    Of course, the readers of the Doc Savage pulps in the 1930's still recognized the reality of biological determinism, before our intellectuals steered the culture into massive denial about it after the Second World War.

    His quasi-crazy Dad wanted his son to be a kind of superman

    The author of the Doc Savage stories apparently cribbed that idea from the way John Stuart Mill describes his upbringing in his Autobiography.

    Dunno.My understanding is that Doc’s upbringing was based on the backstory for Nick Carter, the dime novel superman:

    Nick’s father “Old Sim Carter” began Nick’s training when the boy was only a child. Old Sim’s goal was to make Nick as great a man as possible, and so put Nick through a wide range of physical and mental tests and brought him up to be a perfect physical and mental specimen. Nick is strong enough to “lift a horse with ease…while a heavy man is seated in the saddle….he can place four packs of playing cards together, and tear them in halves between his thumbs and fingers.” He was schooled in every possible area of knowledge that might conceivably have to do with crime-solving, including the sciences, various languages, art and physiology.

    https://jessnevins.com/blog/?p=458

    Of course, the creators of Nick Carter might have had JS Mill in mind….

  40. @Paleo Liberal
    I have met a few people from the West Bend area. Small city of about 30k or so. One of them called it Mayberry. Maybe a cross between a much colder Mayberry and Point Place from That 70s Show.

    This was a town where young white guys felt they were getting ticketed for “crusing” every time they drove on the main drag. So a bunch of young guys at one point drove up and down the main drag until they all got tickets. Then they went all the way to appeals court until the town threw in the towel and got rid of the cruising laws.

    This is close to a village where the owner of a fast food joint put up a rather politically incorrect sign in his window after people complained about his Christian music over the loudspeaker. Eventually someone complained about the sign and it became controversial. The owner told me his business went up 30% when people tried to boycott him.

    That’s how stuff used to work universally (cf the militant communist being hated and driven away in Cinema Paradiso; “now” he would be the mayor) and I get the impression that many boomers are so complacent because they honestly expect those rules are still in effect. The fact that it’s different — that certain laws are not enforced any more, that new laws criminalize once-tolerated behavior, and that there are no consequences (and may be rewards) for lynch-worthy behaviors — hasn’t reached them. Heartiste has a picture of a ten year old boy dancing for homosexuals for money. It’s not “Desmond Is Amazing,” it’s a different one, and this one is in public. That would not have happened in recent decades and not because of police.

  41. @Hypnotoad666
    I didn't realize Esquire was still a thing.

    Pretty sad when the magazine that published Hemingway and Tom Wolfe has to get the internet's permission to talk about a white guy during February.

    Maybe they were just commemorating White Day.
    (White Day is Japanese reverse Valentine’s: girls make a Japanese impression of chocolate for their boys.)

  42. Tune in to NPR for more regularly scheduled programming.

    • Replies: @eah
    I doubt it.

    https://twitter.com/realSvenLaden/status/1095419251391905793
  43. @interesting
    Your lame trolls stick out like a sore thumb........I didn't notice who the author was but then thought this sounds like the racism and bigotry of that troll tiny dick and sure enough.

    "Ask any Person of Color they will tell you white boys are rude and abrasive"

    I'll ask my friends about this and I'm pretty sure they would disagree.

    “Ask any Person of Color they will tell you white boys are rude and abrasive”

    They also have bad features, you know.

  44. @Steve Sailer
    Also, JS Mill, after 15 years of intensive education fell into a deep depression from age 18 to 26.

    What snapped him out of it? I’ve read that depression is largely a malady affecting intelligent people. Mill is supposedly one of the smartest ever.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    As I recall, reading Coleridge seems to have played a role. It opened up channels of thought and experience that had been left unexplored by Bentham's utilitarianism.
    , @Dube
    What snapped him out of it? I’ve read that depression is largely a malady affecting intelligent people. Mill is supposedly one of the smartest ever.

    What changed his life? Look up: Harriet Taylor.
  45. When Haven has a woman in his muscular, chiseled biceps she is completely overwhelmed and there is nothing she can do to stop him from ripping her bodice and exposing her naked breasts.

  46. @eah
    Tune in to NPR for more regularly scheduled programming.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzNycEvWkAEgvZy.jpg
  47. Anon[111] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux
    Help, I Can't Stop Hooking Up With Trump Supporters

    When someone asks about my worst hookup, I have plenty of options to choose from, but I inevitably end up telling the same story. It’s the one where I started arguing with a Trump supporter at a bar and then before I knew it, I was waking up the next morning in his bedroom. There were flags everywhere: Ronald Reagan's face was emblazoned on one of them, “Don’t Tread On Me” made an appearance on another. I say it was the “worst” not because the sex was bad, but because, well, see above.
     
    https://www.glamour.com/story/hooking-up-with-trump-voters-essay

    … a Trump supporter at a bar and then before I knew it, I was waking up the next morning in his bedroom. There were flags everywhere: Ronald Reagan’s face was emblazoned on one of them, “Don’t Tread On Me” made an appearance on another.

    Reagan face flag? Don’t tread on me?

    It’s time to come up with a name for that thing where a member of one political extreme has weird, stereotypical delusions about the other side. Maybe smollecism (e.g., nooses and MAGA country)?

    It’s important, since if you cannot recognize and get past your smollecisms, your hate hoax or your Glamour article pitch will sound completely fake to the people they target, bringing excess unwanted scrutiny.

  48. @Tyrion 2
    But it is during black history month...and that is a thing now...why? I don't know. What on earth is a "history month" anyway?

    And once again, an entire month of not mentioning the most important African-American In history, Anthony Johnson.

  49. I’ve said it before: Envy is one of the Seven Deadly Sins for a good reason, and though it is discounted today, is a prime mover in human affairs. The absolute jealousy the Left has for Western manhood and its glory and accomplishments has morphed into violent hatred.

  50. @Trevor H.
    What snapped him out of it? I've read that depression is largely a malady affecting intelligent people. Mill is supposedly one of the smartest ever.

    As I recall, reading Coleridge seems to have played a role. It opened up channels of thought and experience that had been left unexplored by Bentham’s utilitarianism.

    • Replies: @advancedatheist
    Meeting Harriet Taylor probably played a role in Mill's recovery. Otherwise he probably would have lived as a Victorian incel.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    As I recall, reading Coleridge seems to have played a role. It opened up channels of thought and experience that had been left unexplored by Bentham’s utilitarianism.
     
    So Coleridge was the opposite of Goethe?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdG2RopYIOc
  51. Growing up I can remember when Esquire was the quintessential Man’s Magazine. In its heyday it was a literary juggernaut attracting the likes of Hemingway and Wolfe. Even Taki wrote for it right before it started to collapse. Now it’s nothing more than a pop culture leftist piece of shit.

    • Replies: @Simon

    Now it’s nothing more than a pop culture leftist piece of shit.
     
    But not as much a leftist piece of shit as GQ.
    , @Thea
    Such is the trajectory of 21 st century journalism.
  52. “The Current Year prejudice that The Enemy is good looking has me thinking this is more about rape fantasies.”

    50 Shades of Grey, anyone?

  53. @syonredux

    These pictures portray Doc Savage, the hero of about the worst pulp fiction in American literature. The stories might as well have called him Arbitrarily Competent Man, because the character can pull whatever arbitrary abilities he needs out of his ass to move the story along. He never winds up in a situation where he doesn’t know what to do, and the novels don’t supply anything like a plausible backstory about how a man in his 30’s got that way.
     
    Doc's training started in infancy. His quasi-crazy Dad wanted his son to be a kind of superman: master of a variety of martial arts (boxing, archery, judo, etc), fluent in dozens of languages, surgeon, etc

    For example, when did he have the time to invent all the gadgets he uses?
     
    If memory serves, he would spend several months every year at his arctic Fortress of Solitude (Yep, Superman stole the idea from Doc) working on his gadgets.

    Doc’s training started in infancy. His quasi-crazy Dad wanted his son to be a kind of superman: master of a variety of martial arts (boxing, archery, judo, etc), fluent in dozens of languages, surgeon, etc

    Could be what happened to a prickly tough-guy commenter we all know! Despite all the world-beating mastery, the psychological costs have been harrowing. Same story with Tiger Woods, Dr. Evil, etc.

  54. @Ragged
    Steve,

    In April 2015, pre-Trump and pre-Migrant Crisis, you featured a reader comment saying that mainstream rhetoric regarding whites was beginning to resemble the fashionable anti-Semitism of 1890s Germany. That stuck with me, because a few months later the national conversation moved time forward several decades, metaphorically speaking.

    The catalyst was the release of Ta-Nehisi Coates' "Between the World and Me." Angry cranks have existed for a long time, but the national promotion of that book and the genuflection towards Coates was new. Coates' post-2015 writings have become less about his being black and more about his feelings towards whites, and commenters such as John McWhorter, Ben Shapiro, and Tucker Carlson have begun to note that Coates "hates" and "despises" whites. In summer 2015, most hadn't realized this. Back then, left-wing writers praised Coates boundlessly while the right-wing commentariat was distracted by Coates' nuclear reaction to a middle-aged woman getting petulant with his young son.

    They missed the boat. Coates' descriptions of whites in "Between the World and Me" were implacably, completely, and obviously hateful, even beyond his calling the 343 firefighters who died on 9/11 "menaces of nature." His overall thesis regarding whites had two components:

    1) Whites are a "syndicate" (Coates' word) dedicated to the "plunder" (Coates' word, used constantly) of others.
    2) Without plunder, "'white people' would cease to exist for want of reasons."

    I do not think calling these two points "his thesis" regarding whites is unfair. Coates would probably agree. It's also sufficient: all the other things Coates writes about whites are corollaries to, or consequences of, these beliefs.

    Now compare Coates' thesis to this passage from 50 years before Coates was born:

    "If the Jews were alone in this world, they would stifle in filth and offal; they would try to get ahead of one another in hate-filled struggle and exterminate one another, in so far as the absolute absence of all sense of self-sacrifice, expressing itself in their cowardice, did not turn battle into comedy here too.
    "So it is absolutely wrong to infer any ideal sense of sacrifice in the Jews from the fact that they stand together in struggle, or, better expressed, in the plundering of their fellow men."

    Ignore the "Jews can't fight, ha ha" insult from the end of the first paragraph, and what's left is identical to Coates' description of whites. While Coates' whites are a "syndicate" dedicated to "plunder," the Jews of Hitler--the passage is from "Volk und Rasse" ("Rasse" translates to "Race"), the 11th chapter of Mein Kampf--"stand together" to commit "plundering."

    And both Coates' whites and Hitler's Jews would, without their ability to plunder, cease to exist as a cohesive unit. Coates explicitly includes Jews as whites in the opening pages of his book, so they're getting blamed for everything twice.

    Now, I'm not saying that "Coates is Hitler." He's a better writer, for one. Unlike Hitler, he has no political ambitions and didn't write his tract while incarcerated for trying to overthrow the government. Even if Coates did have political ambitions, his public speaking suggests a guy lacking the charisma to get friends to help him move, let alone lead a nation to frenzied mass psychosis.

    Nor am I saying Coates is quoting Hitler or even that he's inspired by Hitler, though he has quoted Hitler in the past to taunt white Americans with Hitler's admiration for slavery, Manifest Destiny, and Jim Crow. So, yeah, perhaps one of his sycophants like Chris Hayes could ask Coates if Der Fuhrer is a literary inspiration.

    No, what I'm saying is this: when a man writes ideas that, concept-for-concept and practically word-for-word, echo those of Hitler ***on the issue of racial hatred***, the media should notice. If they don't and instead praise the writer without fail, we should be very concerned. The "Greviance Studies" trio in Portland actually rewrote a Mein Kampf chapter as a feminist tract and got it published in a social work journal. The media treated it as a joke equivalent to their paper on canine-on-canine sexual assault in dog parks. Bad job, media.

    So, as it stands, we have an award-winning, best-selling and wildly-praised book that describes a shrinking share of the American population with almost exactly the same words used by the most famously murderous maniac of the 20th century to describe the group he attempted to slaughter in total. And the book is filling up high school and college syllabi all over the country.

    There are assuredly other writings of Coates' that have Hitler parallels. Just skimming over "Volk und Rasse," Hitler's rant that the pacifist claim of "Man's role is to overcome nature" is "Jewish nonsense" reminds me of Coates' denunciation of "nonviolence" in the wake of the Spring 2015 Baltimore riots. Perhaps comparing the rants of Coates and Hitler will end up creating, in your parlance, a "strange new respect" for Hitler.

    Now, I’m not saying that “Coates is Hitler.” He’s a better writer, for one.

    No. Hitler was the greatest fuckup of the 20th century, but he wrote coherent prose. Coates might strive for the crown of greatest fuckup, but even a halfwit would recognize the incoherence in everything he has written.

    Coates is only prominent through the stupidity, or mendacity, of Liberals.

  55. @Anonymous
    Steve, any thoughts on the passing of Lyndon LaRouche?

    Is he really dead? How did he die? Did the Trilateral Commission put Novichok in his Jello?

  56. @syonredux
    Help, I Can't Stop Hooking Up With Trump Supporters

    When someone asks about my worst hookup, I have plenty of options to choose from, but I inevitably end up telling the same story. It’s the one where I started arguing with a Trump supporter at a bar and then before I knew it, I was waking up the next morning in his bedroom. There were flags everywhere: Ronald Reagan's face was emblazoned on one of them, “Don’t Tread On Me” made an appearance on another. I say it was the “worst” not because the sex was bad, but because, well, see above.
     
    https://www.glamour.com/story/hooking-up-with-trump-voters-essay

    I’ll take S**t That Never Happened for $200, Alex.

    • Replies: @Rapparee
    The author has no other pieces listed at the site. It's almost certainly a clever bit of parody slipped past the editors in the manner of Godfrey Elfwick.
    , @bomag
    Still, an admission that there is space in their head devoted to Trump supporters.
  57. Anti-white hate is everywhere, even in Dua Lipa videos:

    Notice how the only people excluded from Dua’s kickin’ blackout party full of vibrants and queers are the two straight white guys trapped in the elevator.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    What else do you expect, she is not even a Jew, she is -- may Allah pardon me for using the word -- an Albanian.
    But Lipa illustrates something wrecked in pop. France Gall was hot but she could sing for opera. Katy Perry inaugurated a class of pop tarts notable for being clones (all of them are short, dark, and curvy, which just happens to describe the thickest possible market of targeted consumers) who don't sing at all (with some exceptions, like Ariana Grande, who fits the first metric but not the second). Britney Spears started out talking (as was observed by critics at the time) but progressed to some singing; this order appears to have inspired Till Lindemann. But her competition in the late 90s sang. It used to be a joke that being a singer was more about being pretty, but there's an artist (Nykee Heaton? Not rememberimg exact name) who "sings" as well as anyone in this class, but is careful to do her concerts (which are on youtube) effectively naked. This is not a stripper, she is categorized under "music," and thought of primarily as a singer. She's in some lingerie or translucent fabric and during a pause an audiencemember shouts "you look so hot!"
    Another thing about Lipa that is like Taylor Swift or Rebecca Black, her parents are apparently rich. So our celebrities now are people whose dad bought them celebrity for a birthday.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Notice how the only people excluded from Dua’s kickin’ blackout party full of vibrants and queers are the two straight white guys trapped in the elevator.
     
    "Dua Lipa" sounds downright labial.

    She's Kosovar. Does she bend that bod toward the Ka'aba several times daily?

    The guys in the lift look like hipsters saving up for a move to Portland. They're getting what they deserve.
    , @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    Those are the song's producers, Diplo and Mark Ronson (both quite well-known in their own right), so I think this is more them figuring out a way to unobtrusively also feature in the music video than white male hatred.
  58. @niteranger
    Growing up I can remember when Esquire was the quintessential Man's Magazine. In its heyday it was a literary juggernaut attracting the likes of Hemingway and Wolfe. Even Taki wrote for it right before it started to collapse. Now it's nothing more than a pop culture leftist piece of shit.

    Now it’s nothing more than a pop culture leftist piece of shit.

    But not as much a leftist piece of shit as GQ.

  59. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Anti-white hate is everywhere, even in Dua Lipa videos:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4-jOuHO-z4

    Notice how the only people excluded from Dua's kickin' blackout party full of vibrants and queers are the two straight white guys trapped in the elevator.

    What else do you expect, she is not even a Jew, she is — may Allah pardon me for using the word — an Albanian.
    But Lipa illustrates something wrecked in pop. France Gall was hot but she could sing for opera. Katy Perry inaugurated a class of pop tarts notable for being clones (all of them are short, dark, and curvy, which just happens to describe the thickest possible market of targeted consumers) who don’t sing at all (with some exceptions, like Ariana Grande, who fits the first metric but not the second). Britney Spears started out talking (as was observed by critics at the time) but progressed to some singing; this order appears to have inspired Till Lindemann. But her competition in the late 90s sang. It used to be a joke that being a singer was more about being pretty, but there’s an artist (Nykee Heaton? Not rememberimg exact name) who “sings” as well as anyone in this class, but is careful to do her concerts (which are on youtube) effectively naked. This is not a stripper, she is categorized under “music,” and thought of primarily as a singer. She’s in some lingerie or translucent fabric and during a pause an audiencemember shouts “you look so hot!”
    Another thing about Lipa that is like Taylor Swift or Rebecca Black, her parents are apparently rich. So our celebrities now are people whose dad bought them celebrity for a birthday.

  60. @Anonymous
    Steve, any thoughts on the passing of Lyndon LaRouche?

    Steve, any thoughts on the passing of Lyndon LaRouche?

    He died?……You mean just now?

    I could have sworn LaRouche had been dead for twenty years!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    The Art Linkletter effect. "You mean he was still alive?"

    Well, we still have Kirk Douglas, Olivia de Havilland, and Beverly Cleary. As of today, anyway.

    But we've lost Lady Ursula D'Abo.
  61. Notice the tagline: “Build a life that matters“. No, we can’t have young white guys aspiring to build successful careers, get married, and have children- and worse still if they go to church, volunteer in their communities, or cultivate lifelong healthy friendships. Let them do any of that, and next thing you know, they might start voting Republican.

  62. @Jim Don Bob
    I'll take S**t That Never Happened for $200, Alex.

    The author has no other pieces listed at the site. It’s almost certainly a clever bit of parody slipped past the editors in the manner of Godfrey Elfwick.

  63. What Esquire did that was so heinous was to anthropomorphize what is supposed to be a faceless, drug-addled, necrotic morass languishing in the nation’s interior.

    Commenters above and our erstwhile blogger have of course said it better, but I’ll use this forum to again repeat that naked hate has quickly supplanted appeals to equity or justice for much (most?) of the Left.

    I’m sure Steve is embarrassed of some of the more loony comments here, some of which, I’m sure, are my own, but the mastheads of America’s ostensible Leading Intellectual Publications have co-signed this crap from the other side. Worse yet, it’s likely their party’s next Presidential Nominee’s campaign will be centered on this hate.

    Oh well, things will probably get better. They usually do, right?

  64. …the rise in publicly-expressed hatred for good looking young white guys.

    I haven’t heard much criticism of Abercrombie & Fitch.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Really? They were being criticized a long time ago, before Trump, maybe it was before Obama. They seem to have just stared down the critics and whitened on.
    , @TheJester
    Abercrombie & Fitch ... kind of homoerotic, don't you think. Did homoeroticism come before or after their smashup over advertising photos that looked pedophilic?

    Edgey is in ... anything to get attention these days. Please don't think this has anything to do with being "white". Quite the contrary, it paints white culture as decadent, exactly what the Coalition of the Fringes (POC, feminists, Jews) and their PR consultants want people to think about White America.
    , @Ed
    I know they used to get a lot of criticism for lacking “people of color” years ago. I haven’t kept up with them to know if they have sufficiently diversified or not though.
    , @Almost Missouri
    I think A&F got a pass because it was so overtly homo. It's okay to glorify homosexuality among whites.
    , @syonredux
    Black models were sent home early': Abercrombie and Fitch model talks racism she witnessed



    https://thegrio.com/2015/04/14/abercrombie-fitch-model-racism/
  65. It’s not about rape fantasies (well, maybe the UVA thing was), it’s about hopeless pining and biterness over the fact that the hot white guys don’t want them.

  66. @fish

    Steve, any thoughts on the passing of Lyndon LaRouche?
     
    He died?……You mean just now?

    I could have sworn LaRouche had been dead for twenty years!

    The Art Linkletter effect. “You mean he was still alive?”

    Well, we still have Kirk Douglas, Olivia de Havilland, and Beverly Cleary. As of today, anyway.

    But we’ve lost Lady Ursula D’Abo.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    I had to look it up but apparently Doris Day is still alive but maybe not so much kicking. Her only son, Terry Melcher, who produced the Byrds and was Manson's original intended target in the Tate killings, died 15 years ago.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Day

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Melcher
  67. @Anonymous
    Steve, any thoughts on the passing of Lyndon LaRouche?

    Steve, any thoughts on the passing of Lyndon LaRouche?

    I learned when in kneepants never to vote for anyone named Lyndon.

    Though Charles Barsotti once worked for another Texan named Lyndon who hated, hated, hated LBJ. I might have voted for that fellow, given the chance.

    LaRouche’s best quality was his offbeat New England accent. Traditional Yankees hated, hated, hated FDR, but Lyndon loved him. Why? Well, consider that the only rural New England counties FDR carried bordered Quebec, and the voters had names like LaRouche.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    So Larouche was a Quebecois, that explains his Anglo Saxon obsession.

    https://youtu.be/kt_vV5sIi8Y
  68. @Ragged
    Steve,

    In April 2015, pre-Trump and pre-Migrant Crisis, you featured a reader comment saying that mainstream rhetoric regarding whites was beginning to resemble the fashionable anti-Semitism of 1890s Germany. That stuck with me, because a few months later the national conversation moved time forward several decades, metaphorically speaking.

    The catalyst was the release of Ta-Nehisi Coates' "Between the World and Me." Angry cranks have existed for a long time, but the national promotion of that book and the genuflection towards Coates was new. Coates' post-2015 writings have become less about his being black and more about his feelings towards whites, and commenters such as John McWhorter, Ben Shapiro, and Tucker Carlson have begun to note that Coates "hates" and "despises" whites. In summer 2015, most hadn't realized this. Back then, left-wing writers praised Coates boundlessly while the right-wing commentariat was distracted by Coates' nuclear reaction to a middle-aged woman getting petulant with his young son.

    They missed the boat. Coates' descriptions of whites in "Between the World and Me" were implacably, completely, and obviously hateful, even beyond his calling the 343 firefighters who died on 9/11 "menaces of nature." His overall thesis regarding whites had two components:

    1) Whites are a "syndicate" (Coates' word) dedicated to the "plunder" (Coates' word, used constantly) of others.
    2) Without plunder, "'white people' would cease to exist for want of reasons."

    I do not think calling these two points "his thesis" regarding whites is unfair. Coates would probably agree. It's also sufficient: all the other things Coates writes about whites are corollaries to, or consequences of, these beliefs.

    Now compare Coates' thesis to this passage from 50 years before Coates was born:

    "If the Jews were alone in this world, they would stifle in filth and offal; they would try to get ahead of one another in hate-filled struggle and exterminate one another, in so far as the absolute absence of all sense of self-sacrifice, expressing itself in their cowardice, did not turn battle into comedy here too.
    "So it is absolutely wrong to infer any ideal sense of sacrifice in the Jews from the fact that they stand together in struggle, or, better expressed, in the plundering of their fellow men."

    Ignore the "Jews can't fight, ha ha" insult from the end of the first paragraph, and what's left is identical to Coates' description of whites. While Coates' whites are a "syndicate" dedicated to "plunder," the Jews of Hitler--the passage is from "Volk und Rasse" ("Rasse" translates to "Race"), the 11th chapter of Mein Kampf--"stand together" to commit "plundering."

    And both Coates' whites and Hitler's Jews would, without their ability to plunder, cease to exist as a cohesive unit. Coates explicitly includes Jews as whites in the opening pages of his book, so they're getting blamed for everything twice.

    Now, I'm not saying that "Coates is Hitler." He's a better writer, for one. Unlike Hitler, he has no political ambitions and didn't write his tract while incarcerated for trying to overthrow the government. Even if Coates did have political ambitions, his public speaking suggests a guy lacking the charisma to get friends to help him move, let alone lead a nation to frenzied mass psychosis.

    Nor am I saying Coates is quoting Hitler or even that he's inspired by Hitler, though he has quoted Hitler in the past to taunt white Americans with Hitler's admiration for slavery, Manifest Destiny, and Jim Crow. So, yeah, perhaps one of his sycophants like Chris Hayes could ask Coates if Der Fuhrer is a literary inspiration.

    No, what I'm saying is this: when a man writes ideas that, concept-for-concept and practically word-for-word, echo those of Hitler ***on the issue of racial hatred***, the media should notice. If they don't and instead praise the writer without fail, we should be very concerned. The "Greviance Studies" trio in Portland actually rewrote a Mein Kampf chapter as a feminist tract and got it published in a social work journal. The media treated it as a joke equivalent to their paper on canine-on-canine sexual assault in dog parks. Bad job, media.

    So, as it stands, we have an award-winning, best-selling and wildly-praised book that describes a shrinking share of the American population with almost exactly the same words used by the most famously murderous maniac of the 20th century to describe the group he attempted to slaughter in total. And the book is filling up high school and college syllabi all over the country.

    There are assuredly other writings of Coates' that have Hitler parallels. Just skimming over "Volk und Rasse," Hitler's rant that the pacifist claim of "Man's role is to overcome nature" is "Jewish nonsense" reminds me of Coates' denunciation of "nonviolence" in the wake of the Spring 2015 Baltimore riots. Perhaps comparing the rants of Coates and Hitler will end up creating, in your parlance, a "strange new respect" for Hitler.

    “The “Greviance Studies” trio in Portland actually rewrote a Mein Kampf chapter as a feminist tract and got it published in a social work journal. The media treated it as a joke equivalent to their paper on canine-on-canine sexual assault in dog parks. Bad job, media.”

    That was a missed opportunity on the Grievance Trolling Trio. If they had ONLY submitted the rewritten feminist Mein Kampf chapter and then made a big deal about it, the conversation would have been exclusively about that. By including it as just another example among inane nonsense like the dog rape culture thing, they dilluted its impact. The media could draw focus away from that. The Grievance Trolling Trio missed a chance to use the media’s Nazi cudgel against the POZ (I hate using “POZ” but what is a good name for the globalist SJW mindset?).

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    That was a missed opportunity on the Grievance Trolling Trio. If they had ONLY submitted the rewritten feminist Mein Kampf chapter and then made a big deal about it, the conversation would have been exclusively about that. By including it as just another example among inane nonsense like the dog rape culture thing, they dilluted its impact. The media could draw focus away from that.

     

    This is a very good insight. You're right that the dog park article is the one most of the media accounts have focused on.
  69. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Anti-white hate is everywhere, even in Dua Lipa videos:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4-jOuHO-z4

    Notice how the only people excluded from Dua's kickin' blackout party full of vibrants and queers are the two straight white guys trapped in the elevator.

    Notice how the only people excluded from Dua’s kickin’ blackout party full of vibrants and queers are the two straight white guys trapped in the elevator.

    “Dua Lipa” sounds downright labial.

    She’s Kosovar. Does she bend that bod toward the Ka’aba several times daily?

    The guys in the lift look like hipsters saving up for a move to Portland. They’re getting what they deserve.

    • LOL: bomag
  70. Haven Monahan is much better looking than that dork. That guy would never inspire so many rape hoaxes.

  71. @syonredux
    As I recall, reading Coleridge seems to have played a role. It opened up channels of thought and experience that had been left unexplored by Bentham's utilitarianism.

    Meeting Harriet Taylor probably played a role in Mill’s recovery. Otherwise he probably would have lived as a Victorian incel.

  72. @Reg Cæsar

    ...the rise in publicly-expressed hatred for good looking young white guys.
     
    I haven't heard much criticism of Abercrombie & Fitch.


    https://www.out.com/sites/out.com/files/2014/12/12/Abercrombie-rotator_1.jpg


    https://www.klinebooks.com/pictures/33326.jpg?v=1428615869

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CJqstQ7FefM/T3OEowuwElI/AAAAAAAAAgU/oUc2eRHeFrA/s320/AandFAd.JPG

    Really? They were being criticized a long time ago, before Trump, maybe it was before Obama. They seem to have just stared down the critics and whitened on.

  73. @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    "The “Greviance Studies” trio in Portland actually rewrote a Mein Kampf chapter as a feminist tract and got it published in a social work journal. The media treated it as a joke equivalent to their paper on canine-on-canine sexual assault in dog parks. Bad job, media."

    That was a missed opportunity on the Grievance Trolling Trio. If they had ONLY submitted the rewritten feminist Mein Kampf chapter and then made a big deal about it, the conversation would have been exclusively about that. By including it as just another example among inane nonsense like the dog rape culture thing, they dilluted its impact. The media could draw focus away from that. The Grievance Trolling Trio missed a chance to use the media's Nazi cudgel against the POZ (I hate using "POZ" but what is a good name for the globalist SJW mindset?).

    That was a missed opportunity on the Grievance Trolling Trio. If they had ONLY submitted the rewritten feminist Mein Kampf chapter and then made a big deal about it, the conversation would have been exclusively about that. By including it as just another example among inane nonsense like the dog rape culture thing, they dilluted its impact. The media could draw focus away from that.

    This is a very good insight. You’re right that the dog park article is the one most of the media accounts have focused on.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Unfortunately, the Grievance Studies Feminist Mein Kampf is a very loose adaptation. Perhaps their idea will inspire somebody else to do a closer version that gets accepted in a woke academic journal.
  74. @Trevor H.
    What snapped him out of it? I've read that depression is largely a malady affecting intelligent people. Mill is supposedly one of the smartest ever.

    What snapped him out of it? I’ve read that depression is largely a malady affecting intelligent people. Mill is supposedly one of the smartest ever.

    What changed his life? Look up: Harriet Taylor.

  75. @Ragged
    Steve,

    In April 2015, pre-Trump and pre-Migrant Crisis, you featured a reader comment saying that mainstream rhetoric regarding whites was beginning to resemble the fashionable anti-Semitism of 1890s Germany. That stuck with me, because a few months later the national conversation moved time forward several decades, metaphorically speaking.

    The catalyst was the release of Ta-Nehisi Coates' "Between the World and Me." Angry cranks have existed for a long time, but the national promotion of that book and the genuflection towards Coates was new. Coates' post-2015 writings have become less about his being black and more about his feelings towards whites, and commenters such as John McWhorter, Ben Shapiro, and Tucker Carlson have begun to note that Coates "hates" and "despises" whites. In summer 2015, most hadn't realized this. Back then, left-wing writers praised Coates boundlessly while the right-wing commentariat was distracted by Coates' nuclear reaction to a middle-aged woman getting petulant with his young son.

    They missed the boat. Coates' descriptions of whites in "Between the World and Me" were implacably, completely, and obviously hateful, even beyond his calling the 343 firefighters who died on 9/11 "menaces of nature." His overall thesis regarding whites had two components:

    1) Whites are a "syndicate" (Coates' word) dedicated to the "plunder" (Coates' word, used constantly) of others.
    2) Without plunder, "'white people' would cease to exist for want of reasons."

    I do not think calling these two points "his thesis" regarding whites is unfair. Coates would probably agree. It's also sufficient: all the other things Coates writes about whites are corollaries to, or consequences of, these beliefs.

    Now compare Coates' thesis to this passage from 50 years before Coates was born:

    "If the Jews were alone in this world, they would stifle in filth and offal; they would try to get ahead of one another in hate-filled struggle and exterminate one another, in so far as the absolute absence of all sense of self-sacrifice, expressing itself in their cowardice, did not turn battle into comedy here too.
    "So it is absolutely wrong to infer any ideal sense of sacrifice in the Jews from the fact that they stand together in struggle, or, better expressed, in the plundering of their fellow men."

    Ignore the "Jews can't fight, ha ha" insult from the end of the first paragraph, and what's left is identical to Coates' description of whites. While Coates' whites are a "syndicate" dedicated to "plunder," the Jews of Hitler--the passage is from "Volk und Rasse" ("Rasse" translates to "Race"), the 11th chapter of Mein Kampf--"stand together" to commit "plundering."

    And both Coates' whites and Hitler's Jews would, without their ability to plunder, cease to exist as a cohesive unit. Coates explicitly includes Jews as whites in the opening pages of his book, so they're getting blamed for everything twice.

    Now, I'm not saying that "Coates is Hitler." He's a better writer, for one. Unlike Hitler, he has no political ambitions and didn't write his tract while incarcerated for trying to overthrow the government. Even if Coates did have political ambitions, his public speaking suggests a guy lacking the charisma to get friends to help him move, let alone lead a nation to frenzied mass psychosis.

    Nor am I saying Coates is quoting Hitler or even that he's inspired by Hitler, though he has quoted Hitler in the past to taunt white Americans with Hitler's admiration for slavery, Manifest Destiny, and Jim Crow. So, yeah, perhaps one of his sycophants like Chris Hayes could ask Coates if Der Fuhrer is a literary inspiration.

    No, what I'm saying is this: when a man writes ideas that, concept-for-concept and practically word-for-word, echo those of Hitler ***on the issue of racial hatred***, the media should notice. If they don't and instead praise the writer without fail, we should be very concerned. The "Greviance Studies" trio in Portland actually rewrote a Mein Kampf chapter as a feminist tract and got it published in a social work journal. The media treated it as a joke equivalent to their paper on canine-on-canine sexual assault in dog parks. Bad job, media.

    So, as it stands, we have an award-winning, best-selling and wildly-praised book that describes a shrinking share of the American population with almost exactly the same words used by the most famously murderous maniac of the 20th century to describe the group he attempted to slaughter in total. And the book is filling up high school and college syllabi all over the country.

    There are assuredly other writings of Coates' that have Hitler parallels. Just skimming over "Volk und Rasse," Hitler's rant that the pacifist claim of "Man's role is to overcome nature" is "Jewish nonsense" reminds me of Coates' denunciation of "nonviolence" in the wake of the Spring 2015 Baltimore riots. Perhaps comparing the rants of Coates and Hitler will end up creating, in your parlance, a "strange new respect" for Hitler.

    The first time I heard the term, “white privilege,” I knew it for what it was: a blood libel. Much like the blood libels used against the Jews, it was used as a code for “no matter what whites do or say, they are evil.” This was long before I started reading Steve Sailer, I’m guessing about 2010 or so? I was a little slow to the realities of the racial crisis that’s slowly been taking place in America and the West as a hole. Any white who doesn’t realize it now is a seriously deluded or a traitor.

    • Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    It has begun to seep into Latin America as well, where white elites control most of the business but not the judiciary, police, and military. It's common now to find 'viral' Facebook and Twitter accounts decrying white privilege in Latin America with hundreds of thousands of followers.
  76. @Reg Cæsar
    The Art Linkletter effect. "You mean he was still alive?"

    Well, we still have Kirk Douglas, Olivia de Havilland, and Beverly Cleary. As of today, anyway.

    But we've lost Lady Ursula D'Abo.

    I had to look it up but apparently Doris Day is still alive but maybe not so much kicking. Her only son, Terry Melcher, who produced the Byrds and was Manson’s original intended target in the Tate killings, died 15 years ago.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Day

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Melcher

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    Doris Day was hotter than hot. Took me decades to perceive that.
    , @PV van der Byl
    Doris is still alive and living in Carmel Valley, CA.
    , @PV van der Byl
    Doris is still alive and living in Carmel Valley, CA.
  77. @Tyrion 2
    But it is during black history month...and that is a thing now...why? I don't know. What on earth is a "history month" anyway?
  78. @Reg Cæsar

    Steve, any thoughts on the passing of Lyndon LaRouche?
     
    I learned when in kneepants never to vote for anyone named Lyndon.

    Though Charles Barsotti once worked for another Texan named Lyndon who hated, hated, hated LBJ. I might have voted for that fellow, given the chance.

    LaRouche's best quality was his offbeat New England accent. Traditional Yankees hated, hated, hated FDR, but Lyndon loved him. Why? Well, consider that the only rural New England counties FDR carried bordered Quebec, and the voters had names like LaRouche.

    So Larouche was a Quebecois, that explains his Anglo Saxon obsession.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    So Larouche was a Quebecois, that explains his Anglo Saxon obsession.
     
    His mom may have been WASP, which would make him sort of a frog Obama.
  79. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Anti-white hate is everywhere, even in Dua Lipa videos:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4-jOuHO-z4

    Notice how the only people excluded from Dua's kickin' blackout party full of vibrants and queers are the two straight white guys trapped in the elevator.

    Those are the song’s producers, Diplo and Mark Ronson (both quite well-known in their own right), so I think this is more them figuring out a way to unobtrusively also feature in the music video than white male hatred.

  80. @syonredux

    These pictures portray Doc Savage, the hero of about the worst pulp fiction in American literature. The stories might as well have called him Arbitrarily Competent Man, because the character can pull whatever arbitrary abilities he needs out of his ass to move the story along. He never winds up in a situation where he doesn’t know what to do, and the novels don’t supply anything like a plausible backstory about how a man in his 30’s got that way.
     
    Doc's training started in infancy. His quasi-crazy Dad wanted his son to be a kind of superman: master of a variety of martial arts (boxing, archery, judo, etc), fluent in dozens of languages, surgeon, etc

    For example, when did he have the time to invent all the gadgets he uses?
     
    If memory serves, he would spend several months every year at his arctic Fortress of Solitude (Yep, Superman stole the idea from Doc) working on his gadgets.

    Actually both Superman and Batman were “inspired”, shall we say, by Doc Savage. The DC writers essentially took the character of Doc Savage and split him into two comic book superheroes emphasizing different traits with each.

    Doc (Clark Savage) had extraordinary physical strength and sensory abilities (through training). Superman (Clark Kent) had all that raised to a ridiculous level. Doc was the Man of Bronze, Superman was the Man of Steel. Doc had his Fortress of Solitude, Superman had his – a direct steal.

    Doc had a vest with scientific gadgets he used for detective work and to escape traps. He also had a diguised warehouse on the Hudson River that held his collection of tricked-out planes, cars, submarines (and dirigibles!). Plus a secret gold mine that paid for all of his adventuring.

    Batman had his utility belt and his Batcave, and was a millionaire.

    As for the quality of writing – sure, it was hack work. The stories were written during the Depression for the pulps.

    Still, I find them interesting because they portrayed an America that had not yet been sapped of its optimism or crippled by political correctness.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    Batman also owes a lot to the Shadow. Heck, the plot for Batman's first appearance was even lifted from an issue of The Shadow Magazine.


    As for Superman, the biggest influence was Philip Wylie's 1930 novel Gladiator , whose protagonist possesses precisely the same set of powers as the 1938 Superman: super-strength, fantastic speed, the ability to leap tremendous heights, near-invulnerability (he's immune to machine guns and can survive hits from artillery shells), etc.

    For that matter, Superman's origin (escaping from a doomed planet on a rocket) also seems to owe something to Wylie's When Worlds Collide, which depicts a rocket filled with humans escaping Earth's destruction.In Superman's case, Siegal and Schuster just drastically reduced the number of refugees, giving us one one refugee instead of hundreds.
  81. @Anon
    Wow, I'm shocked that a degenerate atheist scumbag like Heartiste would steal an idea from someone else and pass it off as his own without giving any credit. He comes across as such a nice guy on his blog.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsg5yUAj8gI

    Jan 28, 2018

    My recollection is that Heartiste started weilding the PoundMeToo shiv virtually simultaneously with the hashtag it mocks. I wouldn’t be surprised if Benjamin got it from Heartiste (directly or indirectly). In the clip he tells that joke a bit sheepishly which suggests to me he heard it somewhere else first.

    Heartiste is really smart and verbally clever as hell. I’ll bet it came to him the day that hashtag became a thing.

  82. @syonredux
    As I recall, reading Coleridge seems to have played a role. It opened up channels of thought and experience that had been left unexplored by Bentham's utilitarianism.

    As I recall, reading Coleridge seems to have played a role. It opened up channels of thought and experience that had been left unexplored by Bentham’s utilitarianism.

    So Coleridge was the opposite of Goethe?

  83. Anonymous[195] • Disclaimer says:

    Re: Trolls

    Tiny Duck = Leonard Pitts

    Unz/iSteve gets plenty of name visitors. Some are just weirdo Z-listers. Pitts is a ludicrous mediocrity from the old newspaper industry who never made it big.

    He posts non-creative boilerplate so obvious you assume it’s a moron posing as a troll but it’s actually him. He invented the Leonard Pitts fan club (membership is one person, him).

    Hard to believe, right? Think about it.

    It makes sense that Pitts would find iSteve on the internet and eventually become obsessed due to Steve’s willingness to take on the bruthas like Coates et al.

    Sometimes Tiny Duck aka Pitts drunk-posts like a true slob. That makes sense too.

  84. @duncsbaby
    The first time I heard the term, "white privilege," I knew it for what it was: a blood libel. Much like the blood libels used against the Jews, it was used as a code for "no matter what whites do or say, they are evil." This was long before I started reading Steve Sailer, I'm guessing about 2010 or so? I was a little slow to the realities of the racial crisis that's slowly been taking place in America and the West as a hole. Any white who doesn't realize it now is a seriously deluded or a traitor.

    It has begun to seep into Latin America as well, where white elites control most of the business but not the judiciary, police, and military. It’s common now to find ‘viral’ Facebook and Twitter accounts decrying white privilege in Latin America with hundreds of thousands of followers.

  85. @Reg Cæsar

    ...the rise in publicly-expressed hatred for good looking young white guys.
     
    I haven't heard much criticism of Abercrombie & Fitch.


    https://www.out.com/sites/out.com/files/2014/12/12/Abercrombie-rotator_1.jpg


    https://www.klinebooks.com/pictures/33326.jpg?v=1428615869

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CJqstQ7FefM/T3OEowuwElI/AAAAAAAAAgU/oUc2eRHeFrA/s320/AandFAd.JPG

    Abercrombie & Fitch … kind of homoerotic, don’t you think. Did homoeroticism come before or after their smashup over advertising photos that looked pedophilic?

    Edgey is in … anything to get attention these days. Please don’t think this has anything to do with being “white”. Quite the contrary, it paints white culture as decadent, exactly what the Coalition of the Fringes (POC, feminists, Jews) and their PR consultants want people to think about White America.

    • Replies: @Kaganovitch
    Nah, the "edginess/homoeroticism is a prophylactic against accusations of excessive whiteness.
    , @Anon
    "Please don’t think this has anything to do with being “white”. Quite the contrary, it paints white culture as decadent, exactly what the Coalition of the Fringes (POC, feminists, Jews) and their PR consultants want people to think about White America."

    Eschew, eschew the Homo! Flee into the arms of the Negro! YHVH commands you!

    https://www.amazon.com/Homo-Negro-James-J-OMeara-ebook/dp/B0791JDVMV/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1548949307&sr=1-1&keywords=homo+negro
    , @Almost Missouri
    If memory serves, A&F's principal photographer was indeed homosexual and used his summer home at an old WASP enclave to do homoerotic photoshoots, so the criticism is not entirely off the mark.

    A lot of the white world's troubles could be fairly ascribed to decadence, IMHO.
  86. @The Last Real Calvinist

    That was a missed opportunity on the Grievance Trolling Trio. If they had ONLY submitted the rewritten feminist Mein Kampf chapter and then made a big deal about it, the conversation would have been exclusively about that. By including it as just another example among inane nonsense like the dog rape culture thing, they dilluted its impact. The media could draw focus away from that.

     

    This is a very good insight. You're right that the dog park article is the one most of the media accounts have focused on.

    Unfortunately, the Grievance Studies Feminist Mein Kampf is a very loose adaptation. Perhaps their idea will inspire somebody else to do a closer version that gets accepted in a woke academic journal.

    • Replies: @a Newsreader
    I wonder if the author would be sued for copyright infringement by Hitler's estate.
  87. @syonredux
    Help, I Can't Stop Hooking Up With Trump Supporters

    When someone asks about my worst hookup, I have plenty of options to choose from, but I inevitably end up telling the same story. It’s the one where I started arguing with a Trump supporter at a bar and then before I knew it, I was waking up the next morning in his bedroom. There were flags everywhere: Ronald Reagan's face was emblazoned on one of them, “Don’t Tread On Me” made an appearance on another. I say it was the “worst” not because the sex was bad, but because, well, see above.
     
    https://www.glamour.com/story/hooking-up-with-trump-voters-essay

    Reminiscent of some 4-chan campaigns. I say trolltastic, but not Titiana McGrath-tier.

  88. @Anon
    Wow, I'm shocked that a degenerate atheist scumbag like Heartiste would steal an idea from someone else and pass it off as his own without giving any credit. He comes across as such a nice guy on his blog.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsg5yUAj8gI

    Jan 28, 2018

    The Immoralist has been using it since well before Christmas, in my recall. It’s precisely the sort of spergy wordplay he/they have always revelled in; (no, I am not going back to bog-snorkel through his lunatic asylum of a comment-section)

  89. @Mr McKenna
    One of the more perceptive long posts I've seen on this forum. The only thing I'd add is that it's a tad idle to expect the Wokeistocracy to care one whit about internal contradictions in their worldview. In this case, if you point out how clearly they're channeling A.H. in their lofty pronouncements against the White Race, they'll just 1) shout you down 2) condemn you for invoking Godwin and 3) point out that you deserve it anyway, for being so white. If they act like A.H., it's what you had coming after all.

    Coates strikes me as an unusually weak-minded person, raised in a protective bubble of almost complete ignorance and unconditional adulation. If he wanted to learn more about actual White people, rather than the phantoms in his child’s mind, I wish he could be exiled to, for instance, Serbia. For 20 years.

  90. @Reg Cæsar

    ...the rise in publicly-expressed hatred for good looking young white guys.
     
    I haven't heard much criticism of Abercrombie & Fitch.


    https://www.out.com/sites/out.com/files/2014/12/12/Abercrombie-rotator_1.jpg


    https://www.klinebooks.com/pictures/33326.jpg?v=1428615869

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CJqstQ7FefM/T3OEowuwElI/AAAAAAAAAgU/oUc2eRHeFrA/s320/AandFAd.JPG

    I know they used to get a lot of criticism for lacking “people of color” years ago. I haven’t kept up with them to know if they have sufficiently diversified or not though.

  91. @Anonymous
    I think I found a drawing of Haven Monahan's grandpa and his dad as a little shaver:

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/511Ig8SZ9lL._SX373_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

    Yet another classic audio freak in our midst!

    • LOL: Kylie
  92. No, it is not about rape fantasies, save for a few white bimbos. Primarily, that part, the hatred of handsome young white males, is about Jews and blacks, and now Mohammedans of various brown ethnicities, hating themselves for not looking like that.

    It’s the other side of the coin of why the same people love to rag on whites they find unattractive – that part proves to them that not all whites are attractive.

    But the root part is hating Christ and Christendom. White men built and maintained Christendom, and they desperately need to have a symbol that that which when compared to every other civilization looks very good for what it did for the largest number of people, including benefits to The Other that the rest of the world in all history cannot hope to equal is actually EVIL hiding behind a pretty facade.

  93. @duncsbaby
    I had to look it up but apparently Doris Day is still alive but maybe not so much kicking. Her only son, Terry Melcher, who produced the Byrds and was Manson's original intended target in the Tate killings, died 15 years ago.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Day

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Melcher

    Doris Day was hotter than hot. Took me decades to perceive that.

  94. @Jim Don Bob
    I'll take S**t That Never Happened for $200, Alex.

    Still, an admission that there is space in their head devoted to Trump supporters.

  95. @Ragged
    Steve,

    In April 2015, pre-Trump and pre-Migrant Crisis, you featured a reader comment saying that mainstream rhetoric regarding whites was beginning to resemble the fashionable anti-Semitism of 1890s Germany. That stuck with me, because a few months later the national conversation moved time forward several decades, metaphorically speaking.

    The catalyst was the release of Ta-Nehisi Coates' "Between the World and Me." Angry cranks have existed for a long time, but the national promotion of that book and the genuflection towards Coates was new. Coates' post-2015 writings have become less about his being black and more about his feelings towards whites, and commenters such as John McWhorter, Ben Shapiro, and Tucker Carlson have begun to note that Coates "hates" and "despises" whites. In summer 2015, most hadn't realized this. Back then, left-wing writers praised Coates boundlessly while the right-wing commentariat was distracted by Coates' nuclear reaction to a middle-aged woman getting petulant with his young son.

    They missed the boat. Coates' descriptions of whites in "Between the World and Me" were implacably, completely, and obviously hateful, even beyond his calling the 343 firefighters who died on 9/11 "menaces of nature." His overall thesis regarding whites had two components:

    1) Whites are a "syndicate" (Coates' word) dedicated to the "plunder" (Coates' word, used constantly) of others.
    2) Without plunder, "'white people' would cease to exist for want of reasons."

    I do not think calling these two points "his thesis" regarding whites is unfair. Coates would probably agree. It's also sufficient: all the other things Coates writes about whites are corollaries to, or consequences of, these beliefs.

    Now compare Coates' thesis to this passage from 50 years before Coates was born:

    "If the Jews were alone in this world, they would stifle in filth and offal; they would try to get ahead of one another in hate-filled struggle and exterminate one another, in so far as the absolute absence of all sense of self-sacrifice, expressing itself in their cowardice, did not turn battle into comedy here too.
    "So it is absolutely wrong to infer any ideal sense of sacrifice in the Jews from the fact that they stand together in struggle, or, better expressed, in the plundering of their fellow men."

    Ignore the "Jews can't fight, ha ha" insult from the end of the first paragraph, and what's left is identical to Coates' description of whites. While Coates' whites are a "syndicate" dedicated to "plunder," the Jews of Hitler--the passage is from "Volk und Rasse" ("Rasse" translates to "Race"), the 11th chapter of Mein Kampf--"stand together" to commit "plundering."

    And both Coates' whites and Hitler's Jews would, without their ability to plunder, cease to exist as a cohesive unit. Coates explicitly includes Jews as whites in the opening pages of his book, so they're getting blamed for everything twice.

    Now, I'm not saying that "Coates is Hitler." He's a better writer, for one. Unlike Hitler, he has no political ambitions and didn't write his tract while incarcerated for trying to overthrow the government. Even if Coates did have political ambitions, his public speaking suggests a guy lacking the charisma to get friends to help him move, let alone lead a nation to frenzied mass psychosis.

    Nor am I saying Coates is quoting Hitler or even that he's inspired by Hitler, though he has quoted Hitler in the past to taunt white Americans with Hitler's admiration for slavery, Manifest Destiny, and Jim Crow. So, yeah, perhaps one of his sycophants like Chris Hayes could ask Coates if Der Fuhrer is a literary inspiration.

    No, what I'm saying is this: when a man writes ideas that, concept-for-concept and practically word-for-word, echo those of Hitler ***on the issue of racial hatred***, the media should notice. If they don't and instead praise the writer without fail, we should be very concerned. The "Greviance Studies" trio in Portland actually rewrote a Mein Kampf chapter as a feminist tract and got it published in a social work journal. The media treated it as a joke equivalent to their paper on canine-on-canine sexual assault in dog parks. Bad job, media.

    So, as it stands, we have an award-winning, best-selling and wildly-praised book that describes a shrinking share of the American population with almost exactly the same words used by the most famously murderous maniac of the 20th century to describe the group he attempted to slaughter in total. And the book is filling up high school and college syllabi all over the country.

    There are assuredly other writings of Coates' that have Hitler parallels. Just skimming over "Volk und Rasse," Hitler's rant that the pacifist claim of "Man's role is to overcome nature" is "Jewish nonsense" reminds me of Coates' denunciation of "nonviolence" in the wake of the Spring 2015 Baltimore riots. Perhaps comparing the rants of Coates and Hitler will end up creating, in your parlance, a "strange new respect" for Hitler.

    A key difference here is that Coates et al are propped up and weaponized by White people.

    I don’t think Hitler had such support from the Jews.

  96. @niteranger
    Growing up I can remember when Esquire was the quintessential Man's Magazine. In its heyday it was a literary juggernaut attracting the likes of Hemingway and Wolfe. Even Taki wrote for it right before it started to collapse. Now it's nothing more than a pop culture leftist piece of shit.

    Such is the trajectory of 21 st century journalism.

  97. @Hodag
    Every summer I go fishing in his other town, Mountain. Spotty cell coverage. Pretty remote but very attractive. Nice folks. I suppose my name kinda gives away my connection to northern Wisconsin.

    I don’t get up to northern Wisconsin much, except for an occasional trip to the tourist traps (Door County of Bayfield).

    My kids have friends whose families have lake cabins in the north, so they get up there sometimes. Two of my kids went up north with friends during the time when it was snowing up north but not down here in Madison.

    One thing this article exposes is an older, less urban, overwhelming white culture in this country that hunts and fishes and enjoys life outside the cities. That is why I am glad some of my kids got seriously into sports. While life in Madison exposes them to exotic cultures such as Hmong or Tibetan culture, getting involved in sports exposes them to long-time Wisconsin families that hunt and fish, and sometimes live on farms.

    My mother is from Oklahoma. Her father hunted, and both of her sisters married avid hunters. I can’t say too much because my uncles were well known in their communities. But I did grow up with relatives who were very comfortable around guns.

  98. @TheJester
    Abercrombie & Fitch ... kind of homoerotic, don't you think. Did homoeroticism come before or after their smashup over advertising photos that looked pedophilic?

    Edgey is in ... anything to get attention these days. Please don't think this has anything to do with being "white". Quite the contrary, it paints white culture as decadent, exactly what the Coalition of the Fringes (POC, feminists, Jews) and their PR consultants want people to think about White America.

    Nah, the “edginess/homoeroticism is a prophylactic against accusations of excessive whiteness.

  99. @Ragged
    Steve,

    In April 2015, pre-Trump and pre-Migrant Crisis, you featured a reader comment saying that mainstream rhetoric regarding whites was beginning to resemble the fashionable anti-Semitism of 1890s Germany. That stuck with me, because a few months later the national conversation moved time forward several decades, metaphorically speaking.

    The catalyst was the release of Ta-Nehisi Coates' "Between the World and Me." Angry cranks have existed for a long time, but the national promotion of that book and the genuflection towards Coates was new. Coates' post-2015 writings have become less about his being black and more about his feelings towards whites, and commenters such as John McWhorter, Ben Shapiro, and Tucker Carlson have begun to note that Coates "hates" and "despises" whites. In summer 2015, most hadn't realized this. Back then, left-wing writers praised Coates boundlessly while the right-wing commentariat was distracted by Coates' nuclear reaction to a middle-aged woman getting petulant with his young son.

    They missed the boat. Coates' descriptions of whites in "Between the World and Me" were implacably, completely, and obviously hateful, even beyond his calling the 343 firefighters who died on 9/11 "menaces of nature." His overall thesis regarding whites had two components:

    1) Whites are a "syndicate" (Coates' word) dedicated to the "plunder" (Coates' word, used constantly) of others.
    2) Without plunder, "'white people' would cease to exist for want of reasons."

    I do not think calling these two points "his thesis" regarding whites is unfair. Coates would probably agree. It's also sufficient: all the other things Coates writes about whites are corollaries to, or consequences of, these beliefs.

    Now compare Coates' thesis to this passage from 50 years before Coates was born:

    "If the Jews were alone in this world, they would stifle in filth and offal; they would try to get ahead of one another in hate-filled struggle and exterminate one another, in so far as the absolute absence of all sense of self-sacrifice, expressing itself in their cowardice, did not turn battle into comedy here too.
    "So it is absolutely wrong to infer any ideal sense of sacrifice in the Jews from the fact that they stand together in struggle, or, better expressed, in the plundering of their fellow men."

    Ignore the "Jews can't fight, ha ha" insult from the end of the first paragraph, and what's left is identical to Coates' description of whites. While Coates' whites are a "syndicate" dedicated to "plunder," the Jews of Hitler--the passage is from "Volk und Rasse" ("Rasse" translates to "Race"), the 11th chapter of Mein Kampf--"stand together" to commit "plundering."

    And both Coates' whites and Hitler's Jews would, without their ability to plunder, cease to exist as a cohesive unit. Coates explicitly includes Jews as whites in the opening pages of his book, so they're getting blamed for everything twice.

    Now, I'm not saying that "Coates is Hitler." He's a better writer, for one. Unlike Hitler, he has no political ambitions and didn't write his tract while incarcerated for trying to overthrow the government. Even if Coates did have political ambitions, his public speaking suggests a guy lacking the charisma to get friends to help him move, let alone lead a nation to frenzied mass psychosis.

    Nor am I saying Coates is quoting Hitler or even that he's inspired by Hitler, though he has quoted Hitler in the past to taunt white Americans with Hitler's admiration for slavery, Manifest Destiny, and Jim Crow. So, yeah, perhaps one of his sycophants like Chris Hayes could ask Coates if Der Fuhrer is a literary inspiration.

    No, what I'm saying is this: when a man writes ideas that, concept-for-concept and practically word-for-word, echo those of Hitler ***on the issue of racial hatred***, the media should notice. If they don't and instead praise the writer without fail, we should be very concerned. The "Greviance Studies" trio in Portland actually rewrote a Mein Kampf chapter as a feminist tract and got it published in a social work journal. The media treated it as a joke equivalent to their paper on canine-on-canine sexual assault in dog parks. Bad job, media.

    So, as it stands, we have an award-winning, best-selling and wildly-praised book that describes a shrinking share of the American population with almost exactly the same words used by the most famously murderous maniac of the 20th century to describe the group he attempted to slaughter in total. And the book is filling up high school and college syllabi all over the country.

    There are assuredly other writings of Coates' that have Hitler parallels. Just skimming over "Volk und Rasse," Hitler's rant that the pacifist claim of "Man's role is to overcome nature" is "Jewish nonsense" reminds me of Coates' denunciation of "nonviolence" in the wake of the Spring 2015 Baltimore riots. Perhaps comparing the rants of Coates and Hitler will end up creating, in your parlance, a "strange new respect" for Hitler.

    Mostly agree and agree with the enhancements provided by other commenters. Coupla points:

    Most of Coates’s experience with “white” people has probably been with the aggressively race-hustling, media-controlling class of Jewish white people. Draw your own conclusions.

    “He’s a better writer, for one.”

    Do you think Coates really wrote all his own stuff? The guy’s aspiration is to be a professional comic book writer. And he was a failure at even that modest goal. Between the World and Me is semi-illiterate, from what I’ve seen, and few people have actually read it. His better known Atlantic pieces, like “The Case for Reparations”, suddenly evince polished, erudite, lawyerly prose, utterly different from his book/comic drivel, but not very different from the Ivy League prose of his uber-patron at The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg.

    “So, as it stands, we have an award-winning, best-selling and wildly-praised book that describes a shrinking share of the American population with almost exactly the same words used by the most famously murderous maniac of the 20th century to describe the group he attempted to slaughter in total. And the book is filling up high school and college syllabi all over the country.”

    As I keep saying, in Genocide Watch’s Stages of Genocide ladder, the anti-white genocide is currently through the Discrimination, Dehumanization and Polarization stages.

    The only stages left are the execution ones: Preparation, Persecution and Extermination.

    Oh, and the final one: Denial.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    Goldberg had his, er, "Damascus Road Experience" (pardon the unintended irony) when, as a youth, he was accosted and beaten up by what he called "Irish kids" in what he called a "pogrom". Not just white kids...IRISH white kids. As in Catholic Christian. Hence, the feigned solidarity with People of Kulla i.e. Genius T. Coates.
  100. @Reg Cæsar

    ...the rise in publicly-expressed hatred for good looking young white guys.
     
    I haven't heard much criticism of Abercrombie & Fitch.


    https://www.out.com/sites/out.com/files/2014/12/12/Abercrombie-rotator_1.jpg


    https://www.klinebooks.com/pictures/33326.jpg?v=1428615869

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CJqstQ7FefM/T3OEowuwElI/AAAAAAAAAgU/oUc2eRHeFrA/s320/AandFAd.JPG

    I think A&F got a pass because it was so overtly homo. It’s okay to glorify homosexuality among whites.

  101. @syonredux

    These pictures portray Doc Savage, the hero of about the worst pulp fiction in American literature. The stories might as well have called him Arbitrarily Competent Man, because the character can pull whatever arbitrary abilities he needs out of his ass to move the story along. He never winds up in a situation where he doesn’t know what to do, and the novels don’t supply anything like a plausible backstory about how a man in his 30’s got that way.
     
    Doc's training started in infancy. His quasi-crazy Dad wanted his son to be a kind of superman: master of a variety of martial arts (boxing, archery, judo, etc), fluent in dozens of languages, surgeon, etc

    For example, when did he have the time to invent all the gadgets he uses?
     
    If memory serves, he would spend several months every year at his arctic Fortress of Solitude (Yep, Superman stole the idea from Doc) working on his gadgets.

    he would spend several months every year at his arctic Fortress of Solitude

    Now we know why no one has seen Haven Monahan.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    he would spend several months every year at his arctic Fortress of Solitude

    Now we know why no one has seen Haven Monahan.

     

    https://comicreadersregina.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/doc-savage-fortress-of-solitude.jpg


    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/06/70/f3/0670f3317de806873931b4904c40760a.jpg
  102. @Tiny Duck
    Such bravery telling the stories of those whose stories are the only ones we ever hear.

    We have heard about entitled white boys. They suck

    white patriarchy hurts everyone, and it especially hurts you since it's one of the major cultural schemes that lets you get away with how hateful and dismissive you're being here

    The fact that this doesn't bother you shows how out of touch you are

    Ask any Person of Color they will tell you white boys are rude and abrasive

    I’m going to start a meme where commies, socialists, and SJWs get whacked in the face with a shovel. Guess who’s going to be on it! LOL

  103. @LondonBob
    So Larouche was a Quebecois, that explains his Anglo Saxon obsession.

    https://youtu.be/kt_vV5sIi8Y

    So Larouche was a Quebecois, that explains his Anglo Saxon obsession.

    His mom may have been WASP, which would make him sort of a frog Obama.

  104. MSM is controlled at the very top by what, like…. a few dozen people? So the same people riling up all this anti-whitey bullshit are now showing white folks sympathy? I don’t buy it. Over at VDare you’ve got a graphic with some alt-right tweet saying “it’s a miracle” this cover got published. C’mon…. Let’s put on our thinking caps here. It’s gotta be malevolent, either part of a larger ploy or, at best, just a very cynical marketing gag.

  105. @EliteCommInc.
    I am delighted not to have a clue who this young man.

    His crime is being reasonably normal

  106. There should perhaps be a word for this kind of visceral hatred that is based in thinly veiled envy.

  107. @Almost Missouri
    Mostly agree and agree with the enhancements provided by other commenters. Coupla points:

    Most of Coates's experience with "white" people has probably been with the aggressively race-hustling, media-controlling class of Jewish white people. Draw your own conclusions.

    "He’s a better writer, for one."
     
    Do you think Coates really wrote all his own stuff? The guy's aspiration is to be a professional comic book writer. And he was a failure at even that modest goal. Between the World and Me is semi-illiterate, from what I've seen, and few people have actually read it. His better known Atlantic pieces, like "The Case for Reparations", suddenly evince polished, erudite, lawyerly prose, utterly different from his book/comic drivel, but not very different from the Ivy League prose of his uber-patron at The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg.

    "So, as it stands, we have an award-winning, best-selling and wildly-praised book that describes a shrinking share of the American population with almost exactly the same words used by the most famously murderous maniac of the 20th century to describe the group he attempted to slaughter in total. And the book is filling up high school and college syllabi all over the country."
     
    As I keep saying, in Genocide Watch’s Stages of Genocide ladder, the anti-white genocide is currently through the Discrimination, Dehumanization and Polarization stages.

    The only stages left are the execution ones: Preparation, Persecution and Extermination.

    Oh, and the final one: Denial.

    Goldberg had his, er, “Damascus Road Experience” (pardon the unintended irony) when, as a youth, he was accosted and beaten up by what he called “Irish kids” in what he called a “pogrom”. Not just white kids…IRISH white kids. As in Catholic Christian. Hence, the feigned solidarity with People of Kulla i.e. Genius T. Coates.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Speaking of solidarity, Goldberg served in the military ... the Israeli military, that is, where he was ... a concentration camp guard. He complained that only one of the prisoners ever sympathized with the plight of prison-keepers. Piece o' work, Goldberg is. Dual citizenship, natch. I don't think "divided loyalties" even covers it. It's more a case of a feigned loyalty and a true loyalty. His work for American audiences should carry this disclaimer, but don't hold your breath.
  108. @advancedatheist
    These pictures portray Doc Savage, the hero of about the worst pulp fiction in American literature. The stories might as well have called him Arbitrarily Competent Man, because the character can pull whatever arbitrary abilities he needs out of his ass to move the story along. He never winds up in a situation where he doesn't know what to do, and the novels don't supply anything like a plausible backstory about how a man in his 30's got that way. For example, when did he have the time to invent all the gadgets he uses?

    At least the stories show how white men used to talk about women and people of color before sexual and racial authenticity became crimethink.

    Right, the “Doc Savage” series was subliterature, like all the lower tier “men’s magazines” of its time and all the way up to the AD 1950s.

    However, think on this: Subliterature leaves everything out except the parts that its audience finds interesting, a sort of “uncensored abridgment”. Savage and his group “went around the world doing good things”, if I recall the quote properly. That’s quite an ideal. Even if the readership didn’t have any idea what “good things” were (it’s not as easy to know that as it seems, even for engineering problems), they at least had the aspiration. Who has that today (c.a. AD 2019)?

    Counterisurgency

  109. @Mr McKenna

    The Current Year prejudice that The Enemy is good looking has me thinking this is more about rape fantasies.
     
    That has always factored into it, but in the present case it's impossible to pretend that Esquire editors didn't know exactly what they were doing by featuring The Enemy as their #1 installment in this series. There's absolutely no better way to get people riled up and bring tons of attention ('clicks') to their tired old 'journalism'.

    I remember when Esquire was very much “New Journalism.” Sigh.

  110. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheJester
    Abercrombie & Fitch ... kind of homoerotic, don't you think. Did homoeroticism come before or after their smashup over advertising photos that looked pedophilic?

    Edgey is in ... anything to get attention these days. Please don't think this has anything to do with being "white". Quite the contrary, it paints white culture as decadent, exactly what the Coalition of the Fringes (POC, feminists, Jews) and their PR consultants want people to think about White America.

    “Please don’t think this has anything to do with being “white”. Quite the contrary, it paints white culture as decadent, exactly what the Coalition of the Fringes (POC, feminists, Jews) and their PR consultants want people to think about White America.”

    Eschew, eschew the Homo! Flee into the arms of the Negro! YHVH commands you!

    https://www.amazon.com/Homo-Negro-James-J-OMeara-ebook/dp/B0791JDVMV/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1548949307&sr=1-1&keywords=homo+negro

  111. @sjj
    Actually both Superman and Batman were "inspired", shall we say, by Doc Savage. The DC writers essentially took the character of Doc Savage and split him into two comic book superheroes emphasizing different traits with each.

    Doc (Clark Savage) had extraordinary physical strength and sensory abilities (through training). Superman (Clark Kent) had all that raised to a ridiculous level. Doc was the Man of Bronze, Superman was the Man of Steel. Doc had his Fortress of Solitude, Superman had his - a direct steal.

    Doc had a vest with scientific gadgets he used for detective work and to escape traps. He also had a diguised warehouse on the Hudson River that held his collection of tricked-out planes, cars, submarines (and dirigibles!). Plus a secret gold mine that paid for all of his adventuring.

    Batman had his utility belt and his Batcave, and was a millionaire.

    As for the quality of writing - sure, it was hack work. The stories were written during the Depression for the pulps.

    Still, I find them interesting because they portrayed an America that had not yet been sapped of its optimism or crippled by political correctness.

    Batman also owes a lot to the Shadow. Heck, the plot for Batman’s first appearance was even lifted from an issue of The Shadow Magazine.

    As for Superman, the biggest influence was Philip Wylie’s 1930 novel Gladiator , whose protagonist possesses precisely the same set of powers as the 1938 Superman: super-strength, fantastic speed, the ability to leap tremendous heights, near-invulnerability (he’s immune to machine guns and can survive hits from artillery shells), etc.

    For that matter, Superman’s origin (escaping from a doomed planet on a rocket) also seems to owe something to Wylie’s When Worlds Collide, which depicts a rocket filled with humans escaping Earth’s destruction.In Superman’s case, Siegal and Schuster just drastically reduced the number of refugees, giving us one one refugee instead of hundreds.

  112. @Reg Cæsar

    ...the rise in publicly-expressed hatred for good looking young white guys.
     
    I haven't heard much criticism of Abercrombie & Fitch.


    https://www.out.com/sites/out.com/files/2014/12/12/Abercrombie-rotator_1.jpg


    https://www.klinebooks.com/pictures/33326.jpg?v=1428615869

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CJqstQ7FefM/T3OEowuwElI/AAAAAAAAAgU/oUc2eRHeFrA/s320/AandFAd.JPG

    Black models were sent home early’: Abercrombie and Fitch model talks racism she witnessed

    https://thegrio.com/2015/04/14/abercrombie-fitch-model-racism/

  113. “It didn’t start to become visible to many until the Covington freakout when all sorts of blue checkmarks could discern at a glance the sheer patriarchal presumptuous evil of that guy getting a drum pounded in his face, even though if you looked with any objectivity you could see he was just a kid.”

    White males can’t be kids anymore; that requires innocence. It’s gone beyond the sins of the fathers; we’re in born evil territory now. Steve Sailer writes well here. This is the kind of insight we should be reading in The Atlantic, a magazine I once read with regularity. But chubby man-boy Tee Hee Coates eats up all the white spaces.

  114. @Anonymous
    Steve, any thoughts on the passing of Lyndon LaRouche?

    Old weird America

  115. @Ragged
    Steve,

    In April 2015, pre-Trump and pre-Migrant Crisis, you featured a reader comment saying that mainstream rhetoric regarding whites was beginning to resemble the fashionable anti-Semitism of 1890s Germany. That stuck with me, because a few months later the national conversation moved time forward several decades, metaphorically speaking.

    The catalyst was the release of Ta-Nehisi Coates' "Between the World and Me." Angry cranks have existed for a long time, but the national promotion of that book and the genuflection towards Coates was new. Coates' post-2015 writings have become less about his being black and more about his feelings towards whites, and commenters such as John McWhorter, Ben Shapiro, and Tucker Carlson have begun to note that Coates "hates" and "despises" whites. In summer 2015, most hadn't realized this. Back then, left-wing writers praised Coates boundlessly while the right-wing commentariat was distracted by Coates' nuclear reaction to a middle-aged woman getting petulant with his young son.

    They missed the boat. Coates' descriptions of whites in "Between the World and Me" were implacably, completely, and obviously hateful, even beyond his calling the 343 firefighters who died on 9/11 "menaces of nature." His overall thesis regarding whites had two components:

    1) Whites are a "syndicate" (Coates' word) dedicated to the "plunder" (Coates' word, used constantly) of others.
    2) Without plunder, "'white people' would cease to exist for want of reasons."

    I do not think calling these two points "his thesis" regarding whites is unfair. Coates would probably agree. It's also sufficient: all the other things Coates writes about whites are corollaries to, or consequences of, these beliefs.

    Now compare Coates' thesis to this passage from 50 years before Coates was born:

    "If the Jews were alone in this world, they would stifle in filth and offal; they would try to get ahead of one another in hate-filled struggle and exterminate one another, in so far as the absolute absence of all sense of self-sacrifice, expressing itself in their cowardice, did not turn battle into comedy here too.
    "So it is absolutely wrong to infer any ideal sense of sacrifice in the Jews from the fact that they stand together in struggle, or, better expressed, in the plundering of their fellow men."

    Ignore the "Jews can't fight, ha ha" insult from the end of the first paragraph, and what's left is identical to Coates' description of whites. While Coates' whites are a "syndicate" dedicated to "plunder," the Jews of Hitler--the passage is from "Volk und Rasse" ("Rasse" translates to "Race"), the 11th chapter of Mein Kampf--"stand together" to commit "plundering."

    And both Coates' whites and Hitler's Jews would, without their ability to plunder, cease to exist as a cohesive unit. Coates explicitly includes Jews as whites in the opening pages of his book, so they're getting blamed for everything twice.

    Now, I'm not saying that "Coates is Hitler." He's a better writer, for one. Unlike Hitler, he has no political ambitions and didn't write his tract while incarcerated for trying to overthrow the government. Even if Coates did have political ambitions, his public speaking suggests a guy lacking the charisma to get friends to help him move, let alone lead a nation to frenzied mass psychosis.

    Nor am I saying Coates is quoting Hitler or even that he's inspired by Hitler, though he has quoted Hitler in the past to taunt white Americans with Hitler's admiration for slavery, Manifest Destiny, and Jim Crow. So, yeah, perhaps one of his sycophants like Chris Hayes could ask Coates if Der Fuhrer is a literary inspiration.

    No, what I'm saying is this: when a man writes ideas that, concept-for-concept and practically word-for-word, echo those of Hitler ***on the issue of racial hatred***, the media should notice. If they don't and instead praise the writer without fail, we should be very concerned. The "Greviance Studies" trio in Portland actually rewrote a Mein Kampf chapter as a feminist tract and got it published in a social work journal. The media treated it as a joke equivalent to their paper on canine-on-canine sexual assault in dog parks. Bad job, media.

    So, as it stands, we have an award-winning, best-selling and wildly-praised book that describes a shrinking share of the American population with almost exactly the same words used by the most famously murderous maniac of the 20th century to describe the group he attempted to slaughter in total. And the book is filling up high school and college syllabi all over the country.

    There are assuredly other writings of Coates' that have Hitler parallels. Just skimming over "Volk und Rasse," Hitler's rant that the pacifist claim of "Man's role is to overcome nature" is "Jewish nonsense" reminds me of Coates' denunciation of "nonviolence" in the wake of the Spring 2015 Baltimore riots. Perhaps comparing the rants of Coates and Hitler will end up creating, in your parlance, a "strange new respect" for Hitler.

    The Jews becomes white, and then whites become Jews.

  116. @Paleo Liberal
    I have met a few people from the West Bend area. Small city of about 30k or so. One of them called it Mayberry. Maybe a cross between a much colder Mayberry and Point Place from That 70s Show.

    This was a town where young white guys felt they were getting ticketed for “crusing” every time they drove on the main drag. So a bunch of young guys at one point drove up and down the main drag until they all got tickets. Then they went all the way to appeals court until the town threw in the towel and got rid of the cruising laws.

    This is close to a village where the owner of a fast food joint put up a rather politically incorrect sign in his window after people complained about his Christian music over the loudspeaker. Eventually someone complained about the sign and it became controversial. The owner told me his business went up 30% when people tried to boycott him.

    This was a town where young white guys felt they were getting ticketed for “crusing” every time they drove on the main drag. So a bunch of young guys at one point drove up and down the main drag until they all got tickets. Then they went all the way to appeals court until the town threw in the towel and got rid of the cruising laws

    Maybe they can have a commemorative cruise every year down the main drag. Something about how proud they are.

  117. “Anyone who knew the popular white boys in high school recognized it: the confident gaze, the eyes twinkling with menace, the scowl…”

  118. @Prester John
    Goldberg had his, er, "Damascus Road Experience" (pardon the unintended irony) when, as a youth, he was accosted and beaten up by what he called "Irish kids" in what he called a "pogrom". Not just white kids...IRISH white kids. As in Catholic Christian. Hence, the feigned solidarity with People of Kulla i.e. Genius T. Coates.

    Speaking of solidarity, Goldberg served in the military … the Israeli military, that is, where he was … a concentration camp guard. He complained that only one of the prisoners ever sympathized with the plight of prison-keepers. Piece o’ work, Goldberg is. Dual citizenship, natch. I don’t think “divided loyalties” even covers it. It’s more a case of a feigned loyalty and a true loyalty. His work for American audiences should carry this disclaimer, but don’t hold your breath.

  119. Steve is the something wrong with the link under the text “Esquire”?

  120. OT: Political Correctness done “right” in Ukraine!

    Ukrainian police launch ‘I am Bandera’ flash mob after Nazi collaborator’s name is ‘misused’

    > Police Officer tells C14 right-wing musclors to “Get down, Bandera”
    > “Police are now apologizing for one of its ranking members using Bandera’s name in an ostensibly negative context”: Je suis Bandera

    Several Pepekeks were had.

  121. @TheJester
    Abercrombie & Fitch ... kind of homoerotic, don't you think. Did homoeroticism come before or after their smashup over advertising photos that looked pedophilic?

    Edgey is in ... anything to get attention these days. Please don't think this has anything to do with being "white". Quite the contrary, it paints white culture as decadent, exactly what the Coalition of the Fringes (POC, feminists, Jews) and their PR consultants want people to think about White America.

    If memory serves, A&F’s principal photographer was indeed homosexual and used his summer home at an old WASP enclave to do homoerotic photoshoots, so the criticism is not entirely off the mark.

    A lot of the white world’s troubles could be fairly ascribed to decadence, IMHO.

  122. @syonredux
    Help, I Can't Stop Hooking Up With Trump Supporters

    When someone asks about my worst hookup, I have plenty of options to choose from, but I inevitably end up telling the same story. It’s the one where I started arguing with a Trump supporter at a bar and then before I knew it, I was waking up the next morning in his bedroom. There were flags everywhere: Ronald Reagan's face was emblazoned on one of them, “Don’t Tread On Me” made an appearance on another. I say it was the “worst” not because the sex was bad, but because, well, see above.
     
    https://www.glamour.com/story/hooking-up-with-trump-voters-essay

    Before y’all dismiss this Glamour Mag story out of hand, consider that the authoress of the Esquire piece, Jen Percy, is an attractive (for a journo) youngish woman of the standard NY/journo political left who has nevertheless made a career out of following around handsome, virile MAGA men and writing disapprovingly about their milieu while continuing to follow them obsessively.

    “Help, I Can’t Stop Hooking Up With Trump Supporters”

    Jen, is that you?

  123. @syonredux
    Haven Monahan has led one helluva a life...



    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f3/a7/96/f3a79696b2acea562b20dbbb818f90ab.jpg


    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4-uw5no1PNQ/U3ezbnqeClI/AAAAAAAAK_Y/iR97kKUljLM/s1600/Doc+Savage+cover-+original+art+-+c.1934.jpg

    http://houseofretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/docsavage34.jpg

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mjbB15dMgtw/UZllxxIvUpI/AAAAAAAAhCQ/jmTTwr2uprE/s1600/Image+(7).jpg

    Like all the superhero-lycra stuff, all those images are very homoerotic-rape-fantasy-ish – camper than a row of pink tents, and faggier than Ted Haggard on a meth bender.

    It’s really weird that nobody emphasises the connection between the vast explosion in incel/NPC-dom, SSRIs and the proliferation of pointless muscle-bound lycra-clad faggotry.

    Low-T, is what I’m getting at.

    It’s unutterably faggy to get all “gooey in the fork” over pictures of strong-jawed muscular dudes.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Like all the superhero-lycra stuff,
     
    Doc's more of an adventure hero type. And he wears normal clothes:

    https://pulpcovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/23817407-lf.jpg

    all those images are very homoerotic-rape-fantasy-ish – camper than a row of pink tents, and faggier than Ted Haggard on a meth bender.
     
    "Camper?" Shouldn't it be "campier?"

    It’s really weird that nobody emphasises the connection between the vast explosion in incel/NPC-dom, SSRIs and the proliferation of pointless muscle-bound lycra-clad faggotry.

    Low-T, is what I’m getting at.

    It’s unutterably faggy to get all “gooey in the fork” over pictures of strong-jawed muscular dudes.
     
    https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2789/4191584111_23cdcffc48_z.jpg

    https://napolirestaurantalert.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/david_marked.jpg
  124. @Chrisnonymous

    he would spend several months every year at his arctic Fortress of Solitude
     
    Now we know why no one has seen Haven Monahan.

    he would spend several months every year at his arctic Fortress of Solitude

    Now we know why no one has seen Haven Monahan.

  125. @Kratoklastes
    Like all the superhero-lycra stuff, all those images are very homoerotic-rape-fantasy-ish - camper than a row of pink tents, and faggier than Ted Haggard on a meth bender.

    It's really weird that nobody emphasises the connection between the vast explosion in incel/NPC-dom, SSRIs and the proliferation of pointless muscle-bound lycra-clad faggotry.

    Low-T, is what I'm getting at.

    It's unutterably faggy to get all "gooey in the fork" over pictures of strong-jawed muscular dudes.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

    Like all the superhero-lycra stuff,

    Doc’s more of an adventure hero type. And he wears normal clothes:

    all those images are very homoerotic-rape-fantasy-ish – camper than a row of pink tents, and faggier than Ted Haggard on a meth bender.

    “Camper?” Shouldn’t it be “campier?”

    It’s really weird that nobody emphasises the connection between the vast explosion in incel/NPC-dom, SSRIs and the proliferation of pointless muscle-bound lycra-clad faggotry.

    Low-T, is what I’m getting at.

    It’s unutterably faggy to get all “gooey in the fork” over pictures of strong-jawed muscular dudes.

  126. @Tiny Duck
    Such bravery telling the stories of those whose stories are the only ones we ever hear.

    We have heard about entitled white boys. They suck

    white patriarchy hurts everyone, and it especially hurts you since it's one of the major cultural schemes that lets you get away with how hateful and dismissive you're being here

    The fact that this doesn't bother you shows how out of touch you are

    Ask any Person of Color they will tell you white boys are rude and abrasive

    Tiny Duck, I can no longer tell the difference between you and “Tiny Duck.” .

  127. @Steve Sailer
    Also, JS Mill, after 15 years of intensive education fell into a deep depression from age 18 to 26.

    He probably wasn’t fully physically developed until age 26. Then attractive 18 year old girls started noticing him.

  128. @Hodag
    Every summer I go fishing in his other town, Mountain. Spotty cell coverage. Pretty remote but very attractive. Nice folks. I suppose my name kinda gives away my connection to northern Wisconsin.

    Rhinelander!

  129. @duncsbaby
    I had to look it up but apparently Doris Day is still alive but maybe not so much kicking. Her only son, Terry Melcher, who produced the Byrds and was Manson's original intended target in the Tate killings, died 15 years ago.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Day

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Melcher

    Doris is still alive and living in Carmel Valley, CA.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Carmel Valley, CA.

    Nice place to live. It gets more sunshine than the Monterey Peninsula but seldom gets hot. Green and forested.

  130. @duncsbaby
    I had to look it up but apparently Doris Day is still alive but maybe not so much kicking. Her only son, Terry Melcher, who produced the Byrds and was Manson's original intended target in the Tate killings, died 15 years ago.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Day

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Melcher

    Doris is still alive and living in Carmel Valley, CA.

  131. @PV van der Byl
    Doris is still alive and living in Carmel Valley, CA.

    Carmel Valley, CA.

    Nice place to live. It gets more sunshine than the Monterey Peninsula but seldom gets hot. Green and forested.

  132. @Steve Sailer
    Unfortunately, the Grievance Studies Feminist Mein Kampf is a very loose adaptation. Perhaps their idea will inspire somebody else to do a closer version that gets accepted in a woke academic journal.

    I wonder if the author would be sued for copyright infringement by Hitler’s estate.

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