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From the London School of Economics:

Home ownership and social mobility
Jo Blanden and Stephen Machin
July 2017

There is much talk about the difficulties that many young people in Britain face in trying to acquire their first home. Research by Jo Blanden and Stephen Machin explores the links between home ownership and social mobility, and finds evidence of wealth inequality being increasingly transmitted between the generations.

Of course, in this article about inequality, there is no mention of the Other I Word: immigration.

Keeping the two I Words separate seems to be a high priority these days.

 
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  1. newrouter says:

    It is not their country anymore. So, who cares?

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  2. Jesus…. 2000 is not that long ago! Some similar data for the US:

    https://www.census.gov/housing/hvs/data/charts/fig07.pdf

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  3. So much for a British home, an American salary, a Chinese cook, and a Japanese wife…

    Yet another joke needing an edit.

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    aaaah, the good old days, Reggie.
    , @Truth
    Is that what white dudes dream about?
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  4. Grumpy says:

    You are less likely to want to buy a house if you watched your childhood neighborhood undergo a demographic transformation. You don’t want to get stuck like your parents did.

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    • Agree: Travis, Rob McX
    • Replies: @Olorin
    This. Absolutely.

    Watching this happen to my parents in the '60s and '70s in the Rust Belt city of my origins is precisely what kept me from buying till I could afford a very fat down payment in a nice neighborhood that seemed unlikely to be so transformed in the 20 years of the mortgage.

    But there was also the element of understanding how mortgages work.

    I.e., if you don't have a lot of equity and have to borrow most of the amount of the (ever escalating) house price each time you refinance, the interest resets to its front-end load. You never build equity, but the bank gets its share for sure.

    Meanwhile the banksters are working hard to drive down the value of your house/neighborhood through racial engineering schemes masquing as altruistic. In fact, they're simply ensuring destruction of average families' wealth and corollary debt serfdom.

    There's another crucial element, also related to immigration:

    Since 1993 job security for young people evaporated. Which means having to move often.

    Which means, if you own--which is to say are financing the purchase of--a house, having to sell and re-buy. Each time resetting the 30 year interest to the front end of the amortization. If a family has to move every 5 to 6 years, they're basically renting from the banks and never building equity.

    So who the hell would expect them to buy houses when all it means is paying interest on debt, never getting ahead with principal, never building equity, housing prices skyrocketing, and constant demographic transformation of anywhere nice in the service of Creative Destruction, ensuring the erosion of the house you slave to buy? A chump's game.

    At least with a college degree/debt you gamble on maybe getting a better or more stable job some day.

    The banksters/lenders brought this on everyone and should all be taken out and shot.

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    That's a very good point.

    That's one of the reasons that people strive so hard to live in high-cost neighborhoods. It protects them from having the neighborhood turn.

    Middle and lower-middle class white neighborhoods can turn on a dime. Best to stretch yourself to the max and buy in a neighborhood that's just too damn expensive for NAMs to be a foothold.
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  5. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    OT: It turns out half the memos James Comey leaked to the press contained classified information, which is a big no-no. No wonder he gave Hillary Clinton a pass if he was doing the same thing himself.

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/341225-comeys-private-memos-on-trump-conversations-contained-classified

    I am amazed at the propensity of Obama’s lefty loons to get themselves into trouble. They all need a minder. Leftists=irresponsibility.

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    OT: It turns out half the memos James Comey leaked to the press contained classified information, which is a big no-no.... I am amazed at the propensity of Obama’s lefty loons to get themselves into trouble.

     

    Well, it's only a no-no, and Comey only gets himself "into trouble," if Trump pursues charges. Which of course he should -- Comey should go to prison. But Trump won't, most likely, so this is yet another victory for the Left, because the typical ignoramus watching all this with one eye half-open and the other closed, will only get the Narrative version: "Comey is a hero who tried to stop Trump's illegal election -- which he lost by five million votes! -- that was caused by Russian hacking."

    Seriously, that's how most people understand this story. Perp walking Comey to prison, with him shown frog marched out in handcuffs, might begin to break through the web of lies.
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  6. Did you do a ctrl-F “migr”?

    Edit: Aw, never mind Steve, you edited it into the main post. You’ve ingrained it in my head as the first question I ask when I come across something like this too.

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  7. Jacobsson says:

    Steve doesn’t get it. Most economists agree that immigration expands the economy.

    Some extra consumption plus the increased government spending to subsidize the consumption is factored into GDP.

    Broken windows you see.

    Who cares that the natives can’t afford to buy a home? The economy grew

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  8. Whiskey says: • Website

    Why would they talk about immigration? Its sacred. And a highly unequal society is the goal. Among other things, a highly unequal society allows women to suss out true Alpha males from beta male pretenders. Look at say, the Detroit metro area with blighted inner city ghettos and outer ring fancy suburbs. Just to live in the outer ring marks one an Alpha; to live like James LaFond does in the ghetto inner city (he lives in Baltimore, Detroit Part Deux) makes one a beta male loser.

    Sooner or later actual White serfdom by non-White rulers will be the rule in most European and North American nations. And again that’s chick crack, like a Game of Thrones Marathon mixed in with say, Real Housewives of Atlanta.

    What, anyone in Britain will say “British women and cucks, you make Britain into a third world hell-hole like a Judge Dredd comic book by mass immigration.” Yeah, right.

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    Among other things, a highly unequal society allows women to suss out true Alpha males from beta male pretenders.
     
    What I don't understand is that you are the commenter who immediately spots anti-Semitism and tells the readership not to stereotype and smear an entire group. Yet when you are not doing that you are literally smearing all women with similar comments. This despite the fact that it's been sussed out on this blog that 53 percent of white women voted for Trump. What percentage of your group voted Trump?
    , @ben tillman

    Why would they talk about immigration? Its sacred. And a highly unequal society is the goal. Among other things, a highly unequal society allows women to suss out true Alpha males from beta male pretenders.
     
    A perfectly equal society is one in which every man is an alpha. You know, as Huey Long promised: "Every man a king."
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  9. Anonym says:

    Where is Tyler Cowen to offer us pearls of wisdom? Get used to beans and boarding, Britons!

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  10. Lagertha says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    So much for a British home, an American salary, a Chinese cook, and a Japanese wife...

    Yet another joke needing an edit.

    aaaah, the good old days, Reggie.

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  11. It’s ok, the Pakistanis will live a dozen per house. They don’t even need to move out when they marry their cousins.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    Ever been in a paki, Asian, Russian, Persian, Armenian or Israeli house have you? It's more like 25 to 35 people in a 1,500 sq ft house.
    , @Autochthon
    And the showers and tubs can be converted to living spaces!
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  12. But the food! A Yemeni restaurant has opened near me – who wouldn’t want baked insects and tree-bark soup?

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    • Replies: @(((Owen)))
    Yemeni restaurant? Try the Qat! Beats going hungry.
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  13. eah says:

    OT (perhaps not by a lot)

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    https://twitter.com/BlackPilledPete/status/883648922568314880
    , @The Practical Conservative
    He "oversampled" gays, it explicitly states that it covers both marriage and boyfriends/girlfriends, so it's a way to underreport and obscure the actual ways married people who have children in wedlock meet each other.


    The graph also goes out of its way to separate out intermingled meeting methods. It's neither honest nor useful.
    , @CK
    What is the vertical axis supposed to be?
    I am guessing that it is in 10,000s.
    , @eD
    This is in response to Eah's off topic graph about how heterosexual (I see the other commentator to comment on this completely misread that) couples are meeting.

    The big drops in "co-workers" and "college" are readily explainable in the arrival of sexual harassment policies in both places which often put a heterosexual man in both places at risk of firing/ expulsion, or even legal trouble, for asking someone on a date.

    The drop in "friends" though, I have no explanation for whatsoever.

    I actually think the two upward trendiness, "online"and "bars" are mostly due to the shutting off of the workplace and college as a place to meet the opposite sex, and whatever is causing the drop in "friends" (again, I have no idea). This probably explains the small "bars" uptick entirely, the bigger "online" increase is obviously also do to the increased availability and sophistication of online dating.
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  14. eah says:
    @eah
    OT (perhaps not by a lot)

    https://twitter.com/AngloRemnant/status/884129970150416386

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    The traditional Anglo upper-middle class college experience (living in a college dorm paid for by your parents) is a certainly a lot better for socialising than the Continental lower-middle class college experience (living with your parents and cycling to the nearest uni). Also, huge lectures for 200 plus students make it difficult to socialise with any one during lecture hours (unless you're an eccentric extrovert who likes talking to random strangers).
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  15. Tiny Duck says:

    People who buy into right wing nationalism haven’t been oppressed by anyone – except in their own minds – their paranoia reinforced by endless propaganda sowing fear, hatred, and division, providing them with scapegoats like immigrants and Islam, atheists and “liberal elites” to blame for all their troubles.

    Loss of privilege is catastrophic for the privileged

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    I'll take the alphabet!

    - Leonard Pitts
     
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  16. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Lots of free floating hostility over there. The housing situation won’t help.

    But the core issue is the de-christianization. Much further along than the USA. What has filled the void? Social diseases.

    Oh yeah, and the condescension has never been higher toward yanks due to trump. Socialists all over the place but no one knows anything about Chavez or Venezuela.

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  17. Alden says:
    @Uncle Borat
    It's ok, the Pakistanis will live a dozen per house. They don't even need to move out when they marry their cousins.

    Ever been in a paki, Asian, Russian, Persian, Armenian or Israeli house have you? It’s more like 25 to 35 people in a 1,500 sq ft house.

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  18. @eah
    OT (perhaps not by a lot)

    https://twitter.com/AngloRemnant/status/884129970150416386

    He “oversampled” gays, it explicitly states that it covers both marriage and boyfriends/girlfriends, so it’s a way to underreport and obscure the actual ways married people who have children in wedlock meet each other.

    The graph also goes out of its way to separate out intermingled meeting methods. It’s neither honest nor useful.

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    • Replies: @eah
    It’s neither honest nor useful.

    I think given the steepness/slope of some of the curves, and therefore the differences/changes seen over time, your statement is "neither honest nor useful".

    The graph also goes out of its way to separate out intermingled meeting methods.

    And this one is just plain dumb, since that's the whole point: to "separate out" the different possible ways of meeting and try to look at the trends/changes of each over time -- duh.

    And as far as just being able to afford a house, it's not totally unreasonable to include homosexual pairs, although in the 'affordable family formation sense' -- emphasis on family, ie kids -- I would prefer to see them excluded.
    , @International Jew
    Could you point us to the source? The caption on that graph says heterosexual so I don't understand your point...
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  19. @eah
    https://twitter.com/BlackPilledPete/status/883648922568314880

    The traditional Anglo upper-middle class college experience (living in a college dorm paid for by your parents) is a certainly a lot better for socialising than the Continental lower-middle class college experience (living with your parents and cycling to the nearest uni). Also, huge lectures for 200 plus students make it difficult to socialise with any one during lecture hours (unless you’re an eccentric extrovert who likes talking to random strangers).

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  20. eah says:
    @The Practical Conservative
    He "oversampled" gays, it explicitly states that it covers both marriage and boyfriends/girlfriends, so it's a way to underreport and obscure the actual ways married people who have children in wedlock meet each other.


    The graph also goes out of its way to separate out intermingled meeting methods. It's neither honest nor useful.

    It’s neither honest nor useful.

    I think given the steepness/slope of some of the curves, and therefore the differences/changes seen over time, your statement is “neither honest nor useful”.

    The graph also goes out of its way to separate out intermingled meeting methods.

    And this one is just plain dumb, since that’s the whole point: to “separate out” the different possible ways of meeting and try to look at the trends/changes of each over time — duh.

    And as far as just being able to afford a house, it’s not totally unreasonable to include homosexual pairs, although in the ‘affordable family formation sense’ — emphasis on family, ie kids — I would prefer to see them excluded.

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    Marriage and dating partners being commingled is dishonest and less than useful, unless you believe "it's just a piece of paper, maaaaannnnnnn" and that single mothers and cohabiters get the same outcomes from child-having as married couples.

    The graph takes data that is commingled in original sources and breaks it out as if you can't have college friends that introduce you to someone. You could try bothering to look up the original data sources instead of taking a random chart as untouchable gospel.


    The goal of the chart is to make gay partnerships look more stable and less kinky. It's not about useful information for the people who will marry and have kids. Remember, most children are born to college educated parents, which this chart can't fully reflect because of its built-in biases.
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  21. @eah
    It’s neither honest nor useful.

    I think given the steepness/slope of some of the curves, and therefore the differences/changes seen over time, your statement is "neither honest nor useful".

    The graph also goes out of its way to separate out intermingled meeting methods.

    And this one is just plain dumb, since that's the whole point: to "separate out" the different possible ways of meeting and try to look at the trends/changes of each over time -- duh.

    And as far as just being able to afford a house, it's not totally unreasonable to include homosexual pairs, although in the 'affordable family formation sense' -- emphasis on family, ie kids -- I would prefer to see them excluded.

    Marriage and dating partners being commingled is dishonest and less than useful, unless you believe “it’s just a piece of paper, maaaaannnnnnn” and that single mothers and cohabiters get the same outcomes from child-having as married couples.

    The graph takes data that is commingled in original sources and breaks it out as if you can’t have college friends that introduce you to someone. You could try bothering to look up the original data sources instead of taking a random chart as untouchable gospel.

    The goal of the chart is to make gay partnerships look more stable and less kinky. It’s not about useful information for the people who will marry and have kids. Remember, most children are born to college educated parents, which this chart can’t fully reflect because of its built-in biases.

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  22. CK says:
    @eah
    OT (perhaps not by a lot)

    https://twitter.com/AngloRemnant/status/884129970150416386

    What is the vertical axis supposed to be?
    I am guessing that it is in 10,000s.

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Nope, I think the y-axis is in percent of the total. I should say, that's what it was intended to be, but at the year 1940, I get, by eyeball: 24 + 22.5 + 18 + 14.5 + 14 + 10.5 + 9 + 0 = ~ 116, so even that is screwed up. In 1990, I get close to that, about 115 (try some sums on other vertical grid-lines), but I doubt it is some kind of absolute number. Maybe it was some sort of index(?).

    That is no way to make a graph. You've got to label both axes AND have units (OK, years are counts, so they don't have units.)

    Notwithstanding the Practical Conservatives's good points about the screwed-up stats, and political influence, this graph sucks.
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  23. There are two unmentionable I words: immigration and illegitimacy.

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  24. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    It’s not all bad. There are tade offs. Lack of home ownership in 20s means not having to start a family so early. That prolongs the opportunities during the best years of one’s life to carouse and increase the notch count. Most 20 something English kids are having a lot more fun.

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  25. Chriscom says:

    Interesting thread on growing immigration in Japan. Still small but not nothing. Sorry for the off topic, obviously I’m waving this in front of Sailer.

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    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Having foreigners in your country isn't such a problem. Letting them stay (and, even worse, become citizens) is.

    My bet is that the Japanese are smart enough and tough enough to enforce their visas and kick these people out down the road.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Nothing new here. I and some other Nippon-resident iStevers have been warning about this. And I repeat that Abe is an Invade/Invite PM.

    It's all a huge mistake. The foreigners moving to Japan are not making enough. I don't have stats, but I'm looking around and seeing a net drain on social services. And that's saying nothing about the effects on society of having a bunch of foreign self-interested leftists and their mongrels stinking the place up.
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  26. Chriscom says:

    I should add the guy seems to know Japan pretty dang well. I believe he’s visiting right now, speaks Japanese etc.

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  27. @Uncle Borat
    It's ok, the Pakistanis will live a dozen per house. They don't even need to move out when they marry their cousins.

    And the showers and tubs can be converted to living spaces!

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    And the showers and tubs can be converted to living spaces!
     
    Haha, yeah, they're just antiquated relics from the old colonial age. (Plus the copper will get you some quick cash, if they are really antiquated.)
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  28. This Tweet is from 2015, same as it ever was:

    AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION in England and the UK is being harmed by the English ruling class which runs the United Kingdom. After Word War II and increased in 1997, mass immigration has kept housing costs high in England and the UK. Evil money-grubbers, of all classes, have done everything in their power to profit from the high cost of housing in England and the UK.

    Greedy landlords are a staple of English literature, so perhaps this is nothing new. But now we have the Bank of England keeping interest rates low to create housing bubbles. There is also mass Third World immigration into the UK which forces native White Brits to leave areas swamped by foreigners.

    Foreigners have also found the legal and banking system in the UK to be perfect for laundering their loot through UK real estate. Chinese, Russian and other foreigners are protecting their ill-gotten gains by buying real estate in England.

    The young White Brits in England are going to have to fight to preserve their ability to form families. The greedy English geezers who are benefiting from high housing costs will not give up their gains from the real estate bubble in England without a fight.

    I will go ahead and say that Cameron kept in place the mass immigration policies of Tony Blair. Prime Minister May was Home Secretary under Cameron, so any claims about reducing net immigration from May are total nonsense.

    The young people in England will have to fight to have AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION.

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  29. peterike says:

    These days, any report or “study” about any social issue — crime, housing, jobs, health care, education, you name it — that doesn’t mention immigration, is a fundamentally unserious report or study, fit only for the trash bin. And worse, the vast majority of the time that “study” is overt propaganda, designed to “prove” a lie.

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    "These days, any report or “study” about any social issue — crime, housing, jobs, health care, education, you name it — that doesn’t mention immigration, is a fundamentally unserious report or study, fit only for the trash bin."

    From this month, all English babies are to be vaccinated against hepatitis B, something that hardly existed in the UK a generation ago (bit like TB, really).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4678522/ALL-newborns-given-hepatitis-B-jab.html


    "In 2012, PHE reported that 19 out of every 20 antenatal women testing positive for hepatitis B in London were born abroad. Of those, nearly half were born in Africa.

    It concluded: ‘Long-term infections in migrants are estimated to account for around 96 per cent of all new long-term hepatitis B infections in the UK.’

    More than 500,000 people moved to Britain last year, half of whom came from outside the EU. A quarter of mothers giving birth on the NHS are now foreign-born.

    Fresh data from PHE indicates that the number of pregnant women infected with the virus is increasing fast. A previous version of its ‘green book’ for doctors, from 2013, stated that about one in 700 was hep B- positive.

    But a new version, published three days ago, shows the national figure is now one in 250. Rates are higher than one in 100 in some inner- city areas. None of these facts is cited in PHE’s rationale for vaccinating all babies.

    Paul Desmond, of the Hep B Positive Trust, claimed political correctness had allowed an ‘unseen epidemic’ to develop. He said: ‘We’ve invited the world – and forgotten its medicine.’"
     

    Thorfinsson - you mistake. People HAVE to have a roof over their heads - it's not like the decision to take a holiday or buy a consumer good which you can put off. A small surplus of properties will cause a large price fall (if the owners HAVE to sell, which obviously they don't), a small shortage (caused by immigration) will cause a large price rise.
    , @Lurker
    Very good point.
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  30. peterike says:
    @Anon
    OT: It turns out half the memos James Comey leaked to the press contained classified information, which is a big no-no. No wonder he gave Hillary Clinton a pass if he was doing the same thing himself.

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/341225-comeys-private-memos-on-trump-conversations-contained-classified

    I am amazed at the propensity of Obama's lefty loons to get themselves into trouble. They all need a minder. Leftists=irresponsibility.

    OT: It turns out half the memos James Comey leaked to the press contained classified information, which is a big no-no…. I am amazed at the propensity of Obama’s lefty loons to get themselves into trouble.

    Well, it’s only a no-no, and Comey only gets himself “into trouble,” if Trump pursues charges. Which of course he should — Comey should go to prison. But Trump won’t, most likely, so this is yet another victory for the Left, because the typical ignoramus watching all this with one eye half-open and the other closed, will only get the Narrative version: “Comey is a hero who tried to stop Trump’s illegal election — which he lost by five million votes! — that was caused by Russian hacking.”

    Seriously, that’s how most people understand this story. Perp walking Comey to prison, with him shown frog marched out in handcuffs, might begin to break through the web of lies.

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  31. Steve Sailer and his loyal commenters rightly zero in on immigration, but this isn’t the sole or even dominant cause of soaring home prices in the United Kingdom.

    Most of the UK has Bay Area style land use laws/regulations, effectively. And unlike the USA, this even affects the countryside. A few years ago a farmer who was denied permission to build a house on his farm by the local council chose to pile hay bales high and build a house in secret.

    The outcome of this? The is is being torn down and the farmer will apparently be jailed: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/farmer-who-built-castle-hidden-7658785

    The entire United Kingdom built only 100,000 new dwellings last year. Japan, with its falling population, built 800,000 new dwellings.

    The financial and economic policies of the UK contribute to soaring home values as well. The combination of fiscal austerity and monetary looseness leads to soaring asset prices. Because the UK didn’t have a subprime housing bubble and really does have a genuine shortage of housing, this means that property remains a highly desirable asset class unlike in the USA (outside of certain metro areas anyway).

    There is some relief to be found in Wales, North England, Scotland, and Ulster. In Newcastle houses can be had for £100,000. The trouble is that nearly all the good jobs are now in Southern England.

    If one has a remote/online income then Ulster is arguably the best place to live in Western Europe. American heartland housing prices, Japanese crime rates, 98% white.

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    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    This Tweet is from 2014:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/487601158844710912

    England is one of the most densely populated nations in Europe. Contrary to the opinions of The Economist magazine and others, regulations and the like are not the main drivers of high housing costs in England. Mass immigration, monetary extremism from the Bank of England and foreigners laundering loot are the causes of high housing costs in England.

    The Economist magazine also falsely claims that green belts and "regulations" are the real reason behind high housing costs. The Economist magazine is just laying the blame for high housing costs where they don't belong. Cameron had 300, 000 immigration intake figures on his watch. That is a number similar to Blair's.

    The Economist magazine wants to see a million or more foreigners flooding into England. The Economist wants to destroy the green belts that keep England somewhat green. The Economist would like to see the countryside in England paved over in order to house the foreigners that are flooding into England.

    An immigration moratorium and mass deportations of foreigners would lower housing costs in England. The Bank of England raising interest rates much higher would lower housing costs in England. Taxing the hell out of foreigners laundering loot through English real estate would lower housing costs in England.
    , @Autochthon

    [I]mmigration...isn’t the sole or even dominant cause of soaring home prices in the United Kingdom. The entire United Kingdom built only 100,000 new dwellings last year. Japan, with its falling population, built 800,000 new dwellings.
     
    Oh? What were the one hundred thousand built for then? To house increases in actual Britons? Their numbers are dwindling, and have done for many years. The matter is everything to do with the invasion.

    In any event, Japan and Britain are both dramatically overpoulated by any remotely serious measure, and have been for many years; no new housing (save as replacements) ought to be being constructed whatsoever, on either island. You must be another of these jackasses who yearns for the day when all humanity can experience the wonders of densities just now only seen in places like Shanghai, Hong Kong, Lagos, and Bangalore, and we can all shuffle off to Carousel at thirty, only to be recovered and reconstituted into soylent.

    , @g2k
    Very good summary of the situation. A perfect storm of low interest rates, uneven job distribution, immigration and draconian zoning laws is responsible for this. On top of this there's the liberalisation of pensions; oldies can now take their entire pension pot as a lump sum and invest it in rental properties rather than be paid no interest on it and there's also various government schemes to drive up prices, help to buy etc.


    Public sector jobs are another escape route.

    At the minute, a there are more winners from this than losers, at least among those who can be bothered to vote, so there's unlikely to be any changes soon. It'll be interesting to see how things pan out. Dementia costs are likely to seriously cut inheritances.

    Ulster is really quite grim. Liverpool or Newcastle give the best bang for buck at the minute. Manchester is in the early stages of gentrification.
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  32. @peterike
    These days, any report or "study" about any social issue -- crime, housing, jobs, health care, education, you name it -- that doesn't mention immigration, is a fundamentally unserious report or study, fit only for the trash bin. And worse, the vast majority of the time that "study" is overt propaganda, designed to "prove" a lie.

    “These days, any report or “study” about any social issue — crime, housing, jobs, health care, education, you name it — that doesn’t mention immigration, is a fundamentally unserious report or study, fit only for the trash bin.”

    From this month, all English babies are to be vaccinated against hepatitis B, something that hardly existed in the UK a generation ago (bit like TB, really).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4678522/ALL-newborns-given-hepatitis-B-jab.html

    “In 2012, PHE reported that 19 out of every 20 antenatal women testing positive for hepatitis B in London were born abroad. Of those, nearly half were born in Africa.

    It concluded: ‘Long-term infections in migrants are estimated to account for around 96 per cent of all new long-term hepatitis B infections in the UK.’

    More than 500,000 people moved to Britain last year, half of whom came from outside the EU. A quarter of mothers giving birth on the NHS are now foreign-born.

    Fresh data from PHE indicates that the number of pregnant women infected with the virus is increasing fast. A previous version of its ‘green book’ for doctors, from 2013, stated that about one in 700 was hep B- positive.

    But a new version, published three days ago, shows the national figure is now one in 250. Rates are higher than one in 100 in some inner- city areas. None of these facts is cited in PHE’s rationale for vaccinating all babies.

    Paul Desmond, of the Hep B Positive Trust, claimed political correctness had allowed an ‘unseen epidemic’ to develop. He said: ‘We’ve invited the world – and forgotten its medicine.’”

    Thorfinsson – you mistake. People HAVE to have a roof over their heads – it’s not like the decision to take a holiday or buy a consumer good which you can put off. A small surplus of properties will cause a large price fall (if the owners HAVE to sell, which obviously they don’t), a small shortage (caused by immigration) will cause a large price rise.

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    Who is at risk for Hepatitis B?
    Although anyone can get Hepatitis B, some people are at greater risk, such as those who:
    Have sex with an infected person
    Have multiple sex partners
    Have a sexually transmitted disease
    Are men who have sexual contact with other men
    Inject drugs or share needles, syringes, or other drug equipment

    That's from the CDC website and those are the first 5 ways to be at risk for Hep B. Sounds like the immigrants are degenerates, or at least the women are being impregnated by degenerates.
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    A small surplus of properties will cause a large price fall (if the owners HAVE to sell, which obviously they don’t), a small shortage (caused by immigration) will cause a large price rise.
     
    People, people ... oh kay... what Mr. YAA is saying is that housing prices in England are .....

    anyone? anyone?

    "in" something .... anyone?

    anyone?

    in-elastic. Now the slope of the supply/demand curve must be ... anyone ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhiCFdWeQfA
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  33. @Thorfinnsson
    Steve Sailer and his loyal commenters rightly zero in on immigration, but this isn't the sole or even dominant cause of soaring home prices in the United Kingdom.

    Most of the UK has Bay Area style land use laws/regulations, effectively. And unlike the USA, this even affects the countryside. A few years ago a farmer who was denied permission to build a house on his farm by the local council chose to pile hay bales high and build a house in secret.

    The outcome of this? The is is being torn down and the farmer will apparently be jailed: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/farmer-who-built-castle-hidden-7658785

    The entire United Kingdom built only 100,000 new dwellings last year. Japan, with its falling population, built 800,000 new dwellings.

    The financial and economic policies of the UK contribute to soaring home values as well. The combination of fiscal austerity and monetary looseness leads to soaring asset prices. Because the UK didn't have a subprime housing bubble and really does have a genuine shortage of housing, this means that property remains a highly desirable asset class unlike in the USA (outside of certain metro areas anyway).

    There is some relief to be found in Wales, North England, Scotland, and Ulster. In Newcastle houses can be had for £100,000. The trouble is that nearly all the good jobs are now in Southern England.

    If one has a remote/online income then Ulster is arguably the best place to live in Western Europe. American heartland housing prices, Japanese crime rates, 98% white.

    This Tweet is from 2014:

    England is one of the most densely populated nations in Europe. Contrary to the opinions of The Economist magazine and others, regulations and the like are not the main drivers of high housing costs in England. Mass immigration, monetary extremism from the Bank of England and foreigners laundering loot are the causes of high housing costs in England.

    The Economist magazine also falsely claims that green belts and “regulations” are the real reason behind high housing costs. The Economist magazine is just laying the blame for high housing costs where they don’t belong. Cameron had 300, 000 immigration intake figures on his watch. That is a number similar to Blair’s.

    The Economist magazine wants to see a million or more foreigners flooding into England. The Economist wants to destroy the green belts that keep England somewhat green. The Economist would like to see the countryside in England paved over in order to house the foreigners that are flooding into England.

    An immigration moratorium and mass deportations of foreigners would lower housing costs in England. The Bank of England raising interest rates much higher would lower housing costs in England. Taxing the hell out of foreigners laundering loot through English real estate would lower housing costs in England.

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  34. @Chriscom
    Interesting thread on growing immigration in Japan. Still small but not nothing. Sorry for the off topic, obviously I'm waving this in front of Sailer.

    https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/884227568424988672

    Having foreigners in your country isn’t such a problem. Letting them stay (and, even worse, become citizens) is.

    My bet is that the Japanese are smart enough and tough enough to enforce their visas and kick these people out down the road.

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    Unless they get married! I've seen more than one MENA-Japaness pairing in my city. I used to eat at a place owned by one--he was brought in to work in somebody else's kitchen but quickly ditched his employer, got hitched.

    It's the Japanese work visa ditch-hitch glitch!
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  35. eD says:
    @eah
    OT (perhaps not by a lot)

    https://twitter.com/AngloRemnant/status/884129970150416386

    This is in response to Eah’s off topic graph about how heterosexual (I see the other commentator to comment on this completely misread that) couples are meeting.

    The big drops in “co-workers” and “college” are readily explainable in the arrival of sexual harassment policies in both places which often put a heterosexual man in both places at risk of firing/ expulsion, or even legal trouble, for asking someone on a date.

    The drop in “friends” though, I have no explanation for whatsoever.

    I actually think the two upward trendiness, “online”and “bars” are mostly due to the shutting off of the workplace and college as a place to meet the opposite sex, and whatever is causing the drop in “friends” (again, I have no idea). This probably explains the small “bars” uptick entirely, the bigger “online” increase is obviously also do to the increased availability and sophistication of online dating.

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    The Practical Conservative's points (I presume you refer to him) are correct; they indicate no misunderstanding. The data are worthless because indistinguishable.

    Look here: Upon my sister's recommendation, I install Clover (a popular application to facilitate meeting people to date) on my phone whilst I am in college, setting it to identify people my age (say, eighteen to twenty-one). I have no luck directly, but a friend uses the same application to recommend someone she thinks is perfect for me, because she only just met Dreamy McTingles a day ago so she is winding up her use of Clover). I accept the recommendation, and we get on like peas and carrots.

    Did I meet my new beau:

    • Online
    • Via a friend
    • In college
    • Via family

    Furthermore, suppose I use Clover to identify tall, rakish criminals whom I fellate down the pub, but I wouldn't dream of meeting a man to marry online since, as an upstanding British Pakistani, I will only marry a cousin recommended to me by my parents.

    Was the question about how I find my romantic partner related to the former or the latter? I don't know; such distinctions are not controlled for, since the question apparently includes everything from a vestal marriage to handjobs in a car-park.

    It's not useful or honest.
    , @Wency
    I have a very tough time believing college men are afraid to hit on the women around them for fear of sexual harassment accusations. The kind of young man who will talk himself out of approaching a woman may occasionally use such accusations as a rationalization for his cowardice, but he would be just as afraid in any other world.

    In practice, a man who won't pursue his college classmates (or isn't lucky enough to be pursued by them) will probably be celibate. Celibacy can become more common on the margin, but it's a safe bet that 20-year-old men as a group are always and everywhere highly motivated to avoid it.

    That said, it's obvious that training young people (especially women) not to commit too early has led to fewer people marrying their college sweethearts.

    Now, the workplace is different: here you have more mature men who have lots of other options for seeking young women (unlike colleges, where you're in a bubble). So as soon as the culture turns against sexual harassment (i.e., criminalized unwanted advances), it's relatively easy to deem it not worth the risk and cast it aside without having to embrace celibacy.

    Though one question: how many jobs exist that bring together young men and young women, and what has been the trend there? I think most such jobs are in retail and restaurants. Perhaps also healthcare. I work in finance, and I've never had an attractive female co-worker, so I've barely noticed the whole arc of sexual harassment.
    , @L Woods
    The decline of the "friends" category is readily enough explained by general social atomization I'd think.

    This graph is nearly a decade old now. If what I see, read and hear about the current state of affairs is true, online will have eclipsed bars/restaurants by now. That may be one social trend that I can get behind -- "night life" is a game for extroverted cretins and no less sordid and impermanent than Tinder et al. It's also an enormous waste of money over time.
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  36. @Thorfinnsson
    Steve Sailer and his loyal commenters rightly zero in on immigration, but this isn't the sole or even dominant cause of soaring home prices in the United Kingdom.

    Most of the UK has Bay Area style land use laws/regulations, effectively. And unlike the USA, this even affects the countryside. A few years ago a farmer who was denied permission to build a house on his farm by the local council chose to pile hay bales high and build a house in secret.

    The outcome of this? The is is being torn down and the farmer will apparently be jailed: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/farmer-who-built-castle-hidden-7658785

    The entire United Kingdom built only 100,000 new dwellings last year. Japan, with its falling population, built 800,000 new dwellings.

    The financial and economic policies of the UK contribute to soaring home values as well. The combination of fiscal austerity and monetary looseness leads to soaring asset prices. Because the UK didn't have a subprime housing bubble and really does have a genuine shortage of housing, this means that property remains a highly desirable asset class unlike in the USA (outside of certain metro areas anyway).

    There is some relief to be found in Wales, North England, Scotland, and Ulster. In Newcastle houses can be had for £100,000. The trouble is that nearly all the good jobs are now in Southern England.

    If one has a remote/online income then Ulster is arguably the best place to live in Western Europe. American heartland housing prices, Japanese crime rates, 98% white.

    [I]mmigration…isn’t the sole or even dominant cause of soaring home prices in the United Kingdom. The entire United Kingdom built only 100,000 new dwellings last year. Japan, with its falling population, built 800,000 new dwellings.

    Oh? What were the one hundred thousand built for then? To house increases in actual Britons? Their numbers are dwindling, and have done for many years. The matter is everything to do with the invasion.

    In any event, Japan and Britain are both dramatically overpoulated by any remotely serious measure, and have been for many years; no new housing (save as replacements) ought to be being constructed whatsoever, on either island. You must be another of these jackasses who yearns for the day when all humanity can experience the wonders of densities just now only seen in places like Shanghai, Hong Kong, Lagos, and Bangalore, and we can all shuffle off to Carousel at thirty, only to be recovered and reconstituted into soylent.

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    In the absence of continued immigration Britain would still quite clearly have a housing affordability crisis. That said if non-whites were repatriated then yes, the housing crisis would end and do so swiftly.

    The numbers of Japanese are dwindling as well (at a faster rate than the native stock of Britain), and yet they built 800,000 dwellings last year. Admittedly this may have something to do with Japanese treating residences more as consumer durables, thereby requiring a higher rate of housing stock replacement.

    Britain and Japan are prosperous societies where no one wants for food, shelter, medicine, or much of anything else. Thus they are not overpopulated. I don't know how much of the UK is countryside, but I'd reckon most of it. In Japan over 70% of the country is forested.

    Viewed from Japanese standards even London isn't overpopulated. The Tokyo metropolitan area is a bit more than 50% larger than the London metropolitan area, but it has almost three times the population. And Tokyo is far more pleasant than London for reasons you no doubt no well.

    Their urban centers may, however, have a higher population density than you apparently desire.

    You are right that I do quite like big cities (Bangalore and Lagos not so much...), though I also enjoy rural living and live in a rural area now. Suburbs to me combine the worst of both worlds and I'd sooner blow my brains out than settle in one (rich, historic rail-linked suburbs being a partial exception).
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  37. @Chriscom
    Interesting thread on growing immigration in Japan. Still small but not nothing. Sorry for the off topic, obviously I'm waving this in front of Sailer.

    https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/884227568424988672

    Nothing new here. I and some other Nippon-resident iStevers have been warning about this. And I repeat that Abe is an Invade/Invite PM.

    It’s all a huge mistake. The foreigners moving to Japan are not making enough. I don’t have stats, but I’m looking around and seeing a net drain on social services. And that’s saying nothing about the effects on society of having a bunch of foreign self-interested leftists and their mongrels stinking the place up.

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    Is it mostly other east asians?
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  38. @eD
    This is in response to Eah's off topic graph about how heterosexual (I see the other commentator to comment on this completely misread that) couples are meeting.

    The big drops in "co-workers" and "college" are readily explainable in the arrival of sexual harassment policies in both places which often put a heterosexual man in both places at risk of firing/ expulsion, or even legal trouble, for asking someone on a date.

    The drop in "friends" though, I have no explanation for whatsoever.

    I actually think the two upward trendiness, "online"and "bars" are mostly due to the shutting off of the workplace and college as a place to meet the opposite sex, and whatever is causing the drop in "friends" (again, I have no idea). This probably explains the small "bars" uptick entirely, the bigger "online" increase is obviously also do to the increased availability and sophistication of online dating.

    The Practical Conservative’s points (I presume you refer to him) are correct; they indicate no misunderstanding. The data are worthless because indistinguishable.

    Look here: Upon my sister’s recommendation, I install Clover (a popular application to facilitate meeting people to date) on my phone whilst I am in college, setting it to identify people my age (say, eighteen to twenty-one). I have no luck directly, but a friend uses the same application to recommend someone she thinks is perfect for me, because she only just met Dreamy McTingles a day ago so she is winding up her use of Clover). I accept the recommendation, and we get on like peas and carrots.

    Did I meet my new beau:

    • Online
    • Via a friend
    • In college
    • Via family

    Furthermore, suppose I use Clover to identify tall, rakish criminals whom I fellate down the pub, but I wouldn’t dream of meeting a man to marry online since, as an upstanding British Pakistani, I will only marry a cousin recommended to me by my parents.

    Was the question about how I find my romantic partner related to the former or the latter? I don’t know; such distinctions are not controlled for, since the question apparently includes everything from a vestal marriage to handjobs in a car-park.

    It’s not useful or honest.

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  39. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Having foreigners in your country isn't such a problem. Letting them stay (and, even worse, become citizens) is.

    My bet is that the Japanese are smart enough and tough enough to enforce their visas and kick these people out down the road.

    Unless they get married! I’ve seen more than one MENA-Japaness pairing in my city. I used to eat at a place owned by one–he was brought in to work in somebody else’s kitchen but quickly ditched his employer, got hitched.

    It’s the Japanese work visa ditch-hitch glitch!

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  40. England will have to endure a civil war in order to stop the mass immigration invasion that is destroying it. It seems to be an English trait that they will not negotiate or give ground unless a conflict or test of force somehow sanctifies the new political arrangement. The limey bastards don’t give up without a fight. That is a noble and strong trait to have, even if it does lead to unnecessary bloodshed.

    If the young people in England want to be able to enjoy AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION they must press the issue. They must fight. In opposition to the young people in England who want lower housing costs will be found a host of greedy, grasping geezers who love their wealth derived from ownership of real estate. My advice, as always, is for the young to stop paying the debts of the older generations. Declare all English government debt to be Odious Debt and refuse to pay it.

    It only took 25 percent or so of the American colonists to declare and win independence from the British Empire. It will take a similar number of young English people to win back their island for the English people. But it will take a fight of some sort. It might even be a ceremonial fight, but the English don’t recognize new political conditions without a test of strength from the opposition.

    MASS IMMIGRATION increases housing costs, lowers wages, swamps schools, overwhelms hospitals, creates multicultural mayhem, brings radical Islamic terrorism and destroys cultural cohesion.

    MASS IMMIGRATION causes sprawl, harms the environment, paves over the countryside, wrecks green belts and reduces habitat areas for wildlife.

    IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!

    MASS DEPORTATIONS NOW!

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    Close the borders, deport the invaders, crush the traitors.
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  41. @Autochthon

    [I]mmigration...isn’t the sole or even dominant cause of soaring home prices in the United Kingdom. The entire United Kingdom built only 100,000 new dwellings last year. Japan, with its falling population, built 800,000 new dwellings.
     
    Oh? What were the one hundred thousand built for then? To house increases in actual Britons? Their numbers are dwindling, and have done for many years. The matter is everything to do with the invasion.

    In any event, Japan and Britain are both dramatically overpoulated by any remotely serious measure, and have been for many years; no new housing (save as replacements) ought to be being constructed whatsoever, on either island. You must be another of these jackasses who yearns for the day when all humanity can experience the wonders of densities just now only seen in places like Shanghai, Hong Kong, Lagos, and Bangalore, and we can all shuffle off to Carousel at thirty, only to be recovered and reconstituted into soylent.

    In the absence of continued immigration Britain would still quite clearly have a housing affordability crisis. That said if non-whites were repatriated then yes, the housing crisis would end and do so swiftly.

    The numbers of Japanese are dwindling as well (at a faster rate than the native stock of Britain), and yet they built 800,000 dwellings last year. Admittedly this may have something to do with Japanese treating residences more as consumer durables, thereby requiring a higher rate of housing stock replacement.

    Britain and Japan are prosperous societies where no one wants for food, shelter, medicine, or much of anything else. Thus they are not overpopulated. I don’t know how much of the UK is countryside, but I’d reckon most of it. In Japan over 70% of the country is forested.

    Viewed from Japanese standards even London isn’t overpopulated. The Tokyo metropolitan area is a bit more than 50% larger than the London metropolitan area, but it has almost three times the population. And Tokyo is far more pleasant than London for reasons you no doubt no well.

    Their urban centers may, however, have a higher population density than you apparently desire.

    You are right that I do quite like big cities (Bangalore and Lagos not so much…), though I also enjoy rural living and live in a rural area now. Suburbs to me combine the worst of both worlds and I’d sooner blow my brains out than settle in one (rich, historic rail-linked suburbs being a partial exception).

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    You are right that I do quite like big cities (Bangalore and Lagos not so much…), though I also enjoy rural living and live in a rural area now. Suburbs to me combine the worst of both worlds and I’d sooner blow my brains out than settle in one (rich, historic rail-linked suburbs being a partial exception).
     
    You sound just like I did . . . before kids. ;)

    Suburbs have two nice attributes, at least in the U.S.: Bigger houses and decent schools. Outside of that, not much to offer. Of course, if you make enough money, you can afford a reasonably-size house/townhouse in the city and private school, but that's much of an option for most of us.

    The suburban dream is really just escaping NAMs while raising children.
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  42. @YetAnotherAnon
    "These days, any report or “study” about any social issue — crime, housing, jobs, health care, education, you name it — that doesn’t mention immigration, is a fundamentally unserious report or study, fit only for the trash bin."

    From this month, all English babies are to be vaccinated against hepatitis B, something that hardly existed in the UK a generation ago (bit like TB, really).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4678522/ALL-newborns-given-hepatitis-B-jab.html


    "In 2012, PHE reported that 19 out of every 20 antenatal women testing positive for hepatitis B in London were born abroad. Of those, nearly half were born in Africa.

    It concluded: ‘Long-term infections in migrants are estimated to account for around 96 per cent of all new long-term hepatitis B infections in the UK.’

    More than 500,000 people moved to Britain last year, half of whom came from outside the EU. A quarter of mothers giving birth on the NHS are now foreign-born.

    Fresh data from PHE indicates that the number of pregnant women infected with the virus is increasing fast. A previous version of its ‘green book’ for doctors, from 2013, stated that about one in 700 was hep B- positive.

    But a new version, published three days ago, shows the national figure is now one in 250. Rates are higher than one in 100 in some inner- city areas. None of these facts is cited in PHE’s rationale for vaccinating all babies.

    Paul Desmond, of the Hep B Positive Trust, claimed political correctness had allowed an ‘unseen epidemic’ to develop. He said: ‘We’ve invited the world – and forgotten its medicine.’"
     

    Thorfinsson - you mistake. People HAVE to have a roof over their heads - it's not like the decision to take a holiday or buy a consumer good which you can put off. A small surplus of properties will cause a large price fall (if the owners HAVE to sell, which obviously they don't), a small shortage (caused by immigration) will cause a large price rise.

    Who is at risk for Hepatitis B?
    Although anyone can get Hepatitis B, some people are at greater risk, such as those who:
    Have sex with an infected person
    Have multiple sex partners
    Have a sexually transmitted disease
    Are men who have sexual contact with other men
    Inject drugs or share needles, syringes, or other drug equipment

    That’s from the CDC website and those are the first 5 ways to be at risk for Hep B. Sounds like the immigrants are degenerates, or at least the women are being impregnated by degenerates.

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  43. England is being paved over in order to house the foreigners. 300, 000 foreigners a year are flooding into the UK. Most of the foreigners are going into England. Native Brits whose ancestors have been in England for millennia in many cases are being pushed out of certain parts of England by the invading foreigners. The evil ruling class of England is aiding and abetting the displacement of native White Brits by means of mass immigration.

    Many of the voters who voted to leave the European Union were displaced native White Brits who were pushed out of London and other English cities by the intolerable living conditions created by mass immigration. They felt like foreigners in their own land.

    The evil ruling class of England pushes mass immigration as a way to destroy cultural cohesion and to destroy national sovereignty. The average native White Brit voted to leave the EU because that was a way to express their displeasure with mass immigration.

    Something has got to give. That is why many people see civil war on the horizon in many European Christian nations such as England and the United States. The evil ruling classes of England and the United States will not stop the mass immigration invasion without a fight. The evil ruling classes will soon get a fight, and they will be dislodged from power.

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    In case there's any doubt in people's minds about their intentions, Andrew Neather, speech-writer for Blair and other prominent Labour politicians, was left "with the clear sense that [immigration] policy was intended - even if this wasn't its main purpose - to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date. That seemed to me to be a manoeuvre too far."
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  44. Wency says:
    @eD
    This is in response to Eah's off topic graph about how heterosexual (I see the other commentator to comment on this completely misread that) couples are meeting.

    The big drops in "co-workers" and "college" are readily explainable in the arrival of sexual harassment policies in both places which often put a heterosexual man in both places at risk of firing/ expulsion, or even legal trouble, for asking someone on a date.

    The drop in "friends" though, I have no explanation for whatsoever.

    I actually think the two upward trendiness, "online"and "bars" are mostly due to the shutting off of the workplace and college as a place to meet the opposite sex, and whatever is causing the drop in "friends" (again, I have no idea). This probably explains the small "bars" uptick entirely, the bigger "online" increase is obviously also do to the increased availability and sophistication of online dating.

    I have a very tough time believing college men are afraid to hit on the women around them for fear of sexual harassment accusations. The kind of young man who will talk himself out of approaching a woman may occasionally use such accusations as a rationalization for his cowardice, but he would be just as afraid in any other world.

    In practice, a man who won’t pursue his college classmates (or isn’t lucky enough to be pursued by them) will probably be celibate. Celibacy can become more common on the margin, but it’s a safe bet that 20-year-old men as a group are always and everywhere highly motivated to avoid it.

    That said, it’s obvious that training young people (especially women) not to commit too early has led to fewer people marrying their college sweethearts.

    Now, the workplace is different: here you have more mature men who have lots of other options for seeking young women (unlike colleges, where you’re in a bubble). So as soon as the culture turns against sexual harassment (i.e., criminalized unwanted advances), it’s relatively easy to deem it not worth the risk and cast it aside without having to embrace celibacy.

    Though one question: how many jobs exist that bring together young men and young women, and what has been the trend there? I think most such jobs are in retail and restaurants. Perhaps also healthcare. I work in finance, and I’ve never had an attractive female co-worker, so I’ve barely noticed the whole arc of sexual harassment.

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    The most striking line in that chart is "neighbors". Yep, not knowing, not trusting your neighbors...and in my neighborhood not speaking a common language. We're looking at a crash in social capital.
    , @Carbon blob
    "Though one question: how many jobs exist that bring together young men and young women, and what has been the trend there? I think most such jobs are in retail and restaurants. Perhaps also healthcare. I work in finance, and I’ve never had an attractive female co-worker, so I’ve barely noticed the whole arc of sexual harassment."

    Um...everything other than finance/banking, engineering and manual labor?
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  45. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Whiskey
    Why would they talk about immigration? Its sacred. And a highly unequal society is the goal. Among other things, a highly unequal society allows women to suss out true Alpha males from beta male pretenders. Look at say, the Detroit metro area with blighted inner city ghettos and outer ring fancy suburbs. Just to live in the outer ring marks one an Alpha; to live like James LaFond does in the ghetto inner city (he lives in Baltimore, Detroit Part Deux) makes one a beta male loser.

    Sooner or later actual White serfdom by non-White rulers will be the rule in most European and North American nations. And again that's chick crack, like a Game of Thrones Marathon mixed in with say, Real Housewives of Atlanta.

    What, anyone in Britain will say "British women and cucks, you make Britain into a third world hell-hole like a Judge Dredd comic book by mass immigration." Yeah, right.

    Among other things, a highly unequal society allows women to suss out true Alpha males from beta male pretenders.

    What I don’t understand is that you are the commenter who immediately spots anti-Semitism and tells the readership not to stereotype and smear an entire group. Yet when you are not doing that you are literally smearing all women with similar comments. This despite the fact that it’s been sussed out on this blog that 53 percent of white women voted for Trump. What percentage of your group voted Trump?

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  46. Chinese, Russian and other foreigners are protecting their ill-gotten gains by buying real estate in England.

    Because it’s all lovely and stable and peaceful, or so the perception goes. Tea and croquet on the lawn. Rule of Law, no predatory oligarchs or dictators.

    The young White Brits in England are going to have to fight

    and so they will, eventually, when they become as immiserated as the Proprietors clearly intend.
    The Brits are quite good at rioting, but their real talent used to lie in civil war and internal revolution, same as the Irish. Hello turmoil, bye bye property values.
    Time for a HPC.

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  47. Lurker says:
    @peterike
    These days, any report or "study" about any social issue -- crime, housing, jobs, health care, education, you name it -- that doesn't mention immigration, is a fundamentally unserious report or study, fit only for the trash bin. And worse, the vast majority of the time that "study" is overt propaganda, designed to "prove" a lie.

    Very good point.

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  48. Lurker says:

    SJW/libtards always point out that immigration has no effect on the housing market, or rates of TB or a host of other things. It’s pretty amazing – the range of things entirely unaffected by immigration seems almost endless. So much so that I often ask them that since immigration doesn’t seem to affect anything, why do we need it?

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    It’s pretty amazing – the range of things entirely unaffected by immigration seems almost endless.
     
    On the other hand, the tiniest micro-aggression can have devastating effects, like the proverbial butterfly causing a tornado.
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  49. We can fix this. How? Send the UK millions of people who defaulted on their mortgages in say California within the last 10 years. I’m sure they will be willing to default again and in effect live in houses for free!
    Steve Sailer has written about mortgage defaults in the US. In a few years he will be able to write about UK mortgage defaults
    The UK will get a side benefit from this: increased diversity.

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  50. fish says:
    @Tiny Duck
    People who buy into right wing nationalism haven't been oppressed by anyone - except in their own minds - their paranoia reinforced by endless propaganda sowing fear, hatred, and division, providing them with scapegoats like immigrants and Islam, atheists and "liberal elites" to blame for all their troubles.

    Loss of privilege is catastrophic for the privileged

    I’ll take the alphabet!

    - Leonard Pitts

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  51. Lurker says:
    @Charles Pewitt
    England will have to endure a civil war in order to stop the mass immigration invasion that is destroying it. It seems to be an English trait that they will not negotiate or give ground unless a conflict or test of force somehow sanctifies the new political arrangement. The limey bastards don't give up without a fight. That is a noble and strong trait to have, even if it does lead to unnecessary bloodshed.

    If the young people in England want to be able to enjoy AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION they must press the issue. They must fight. In opposition to the young people in England who want lower housing costs will be found a host of greedy, grasping geezers who love their wealth derived from ownership of real estate. My advice, as always, is for the young to stop paying the debts of the older generations. Declare all English government debt to be Odious Debt and refuse to pay it.

    It only took 25 percent or so of the American colonists to declare and win independence from the British Empire. It will take a similar number of young English people to win back their island for the English people. But it will take a fight of some sort. It might even be a ceremonial fight, but the English don't recognize new political conditions without a test of strength from the opposition.

    MASS IMMIGRATION increases housing costs, lowers wages, swamps schools, overwhelms hospitals, creates multicultural mayhem, brings radical Islamic terrorism and destroys cultural cohesion.

    MASS IMMIGRATION causes sprawl, harms the environment, paves over the countryside, wrecks green belts and reduces habitat areas for wildlife.

    IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!

    MASS DEPORTATIONS NOW!

    Close the borders, deport the invaders, crush the traitors.

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    Let's start with "deport the invaders." I presume you mean all foreigners. That's my wife, she was born in Australia, our son too. Then there's my mum who got out of Germany one step ahead of the gas chambers, joined the British army to fight the Nazi bastards met and married our dad in the army and had five kids with him; she's in her nineties and you want to kick her out.

    Do you want to kick out Aldi, it's German, Lidle too. Asda is American so they can go. Tsb bank is owned by a Spanish company and the Co-Operative Bank is now owned by US hedge funds from New York so they'll have to go. Thank god if you get your way the sun (I wont call it a newspaper), the times and FT are all owned by an Aussie American and the same family own Sky broadcasting so we can kiss them goodby. Every cloud has a silver etc. French, German and Spanish companies own large parts of our power supply, who's going to generate electricity when you've kicked them out.

    I could go on but I think I've made my point.

    The last house we owned was in a genteel prosperous English suburb. Not only were our neighbours white they were a fucking nightmare. Throwing their rubbish into our garden, letting down the tyres on our car and threatening our son with violence. After thirteen years we moved next door to a Moslem family who have lived in the same house since the seventies and nicer, more graceful people you could not hope to meet; in the thirteen years we have lived here we have not had a moments trouble with them, they are ideal neighbours who have worked and prospered here for years contributing to our tax take and hurting no one! And you want to kick them out!
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  52. MikeJa says:

    Sure it’s bad news for all the kids who can’t afford a house, but the good news is Sailer’s Affordable Family Formation Hypothesis explains the collapse in the Conservative share of the younger voters

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    Generally, but there's other factors at play. The conservatives were traditionally the party of the landed gentry and the rural shires are their heartlands, along with a few pockets of urban (very) old money; house prices aren't generally drastically cheaper there. Having said that, in rural areas that have reached a critical mass of yuppies, the liberals do well.
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  53. @Thorfinnsson
    In the absence of continued immigration Britain would still quite clearly have a housing affordability crisis. That said if non-whites were repatriated then yes, the housing crisis would end and do so swiftly.

    The numbers of Japanese are dwindling as well (at a faster rate than the native stock of Britain), and yet they built 800,000 dwellings last year. Admittedly this may have something to do with Japanese treating residences more as consumer durables, thereby requiring a higher rate of housing stock replacement.

    Britain and Japan are prosperous societies where no one wants for food, shelter, medicine, or much of anything else. Thus they are not overpopulated. I don't know how much of the UK is countryside, but I'd reckon most of it. In Japan over 70% of the country is forested.

    Viewed from Japanese standards even London isn't overpopulated. The Tokyo metropolitan area is a bit more than 50% larger than the London metropolitan area, but it has almost three times the population. And Tokyo is far more pleasant than London for reasons you no doubt no well.

    Their urban centers may, however, have a higher population density than you apparently desire.

    You are right that I do quite like big cities (Bangalore and Lagos not so much...), though I also enjoy rural living and live in a rural area now. Suburbs to me combine the worst of both worlds and I'd sooner blow my brains out than settle in one (rich, historic rail-linked suburbs being a partial exception).

    You are right that I do quite like big cities (Bangalore and Lagos not so much…), though I also enjoy rural living and live in a rural area now. Suburbs to me combine the worst of both worlds and I’d sooner blow my brains out than settle in one (rich, historic rail-linked suburbs being a partial exception).

    You sound just like I did . . . before kids. ;)

    Suburbs have two nice attributes, at least in the U.S.: Bigger houses and decent schools. Outside of that, not much to offer. Of course, if you make enough money, you can afford a reasonably-size house/townhouse in the city and private school, but that’s much of an option for most of us.

    The suburban dream is really just escaping NAMs while raising children.

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  54. Sean says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-433442/One-UK-home-buyers-Polish.html

    One in five of UK home buyers are Polish
    Last updated at 22:00 02 February 2007

    One in every five home buyers in Britain is now a Polish immigrant, estate agents have revealed.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/703849/poles-poland-migrants-live-in-uk

    Poles are biggest non-UK born population: Indians overtaken as EU nationals top 3million

    POLISH nationals have overtaken Indians to become Britain’s biggest immigrant group after 11 years of large scale migration since Poland joined the EU.

    And there is just if you believe the official figures.

    David Buik, a money manager with broker BGC Partners, was talking of “one million Eastern Europeans unaccounted for in London” on television last week. I suspect he’s right if somewhat conservative in his estimate. How many do you see working in the construction industry and waiting at tables?

    And when I say “anti-inflationary”, I mean they are getting rotten wages. Dignified by the term “cheap labour”, the hidden hordes will do well for the services sector, among others. People are assets – to maintain and to be maintained – so we are wealthier as a nation.

    All of which is reflected in strong economic demand and markets see-sawing between optimism over what we all see on the streets (that 77 million figure feels right to me) and the possibility of something nasty if the Bank of England credit-crunch prognosis is correct (to echo last week, I think next spring will be unpleasant).

    As for housing, property magnates and chief executives of housing associations alike say the expanding population means serious demand for the foreseeable future, credit crunch or no. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/city-eye-facts-on-a-plate-our-population-is-at-least-77-million-5328454.html

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  55. L Woods says:
    @eD
    This is in response to Eah's off topic graph about how heterosexual (I see the other commentator to comment on this completely misread that) couples are meeting.

    The big drops in "co-workers" and "college" are readily explainable in the arrival of sexual harassment policies in both places which often put a heterosexual man in both places at risk of firing/ expulsion, or even legal trouble, for asking someone on a date.

    The drop in "friends" though, I have no explanation for whatsoever.

    I actually think the two upward trendiness, "online"and "bars" are mostly due to the shutting off of the workplace and college as a place to meet the opposite sex, and whatever is causing the drop in "friends" (again, I have no idea). This probably explains the small "bars" uptick entirely, the bigger "online" increase is obviously also do to the increased availability and sophistication of online dating.

    The decline of the “friends” category is readily enough explained by general social atomization I’d think.

    This graph is nearly a decade old now. If what I see, read and hear about the current state of affairs is true, online will have eclipsed bars/restaurants by now. That may be one social trend that I can get behind — “night life” is a game for extroverted cretins and no less sordid and impermanent than Tinder et al. It’s also an enormous waste of money over time.

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  56. Truth says:

    Shouldn’t that be “English Homeownership rate in Freehold”?

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  57. Truth says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    So much for a British home, an American salary, a Chinese cook, and a Japanese wife...

    Yet another joke needing an edit.

    Is that what white dudes dream about?

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  58. Bong says:
    @Lurker
    Close the borders, deport the invaders, crush the traitors.

    Let’s start with “deport the invaders.” I presume you mean all foreigners. That’s my wife, she was born in Australia, our son too. Then there’s my mum who got out of Germany one step ahead of the gas chambers, joined the British army to fight the Nazi bastards met and married our dad in the army and had five kids with him; she’s in her nineties and you want to kick her out.

    Do you want to kick out Aldi, it’s German, Lidle too. Asda is American so they can go. Tsb bank is owned by a Spanish company and the Co-Operative Bank is now owned by US hedge funds from New York so they’ll have to go. Thank god if you get your way the sun (I wont call it a newspaper), the times and FT are all owned by an Aussie American and the same family own Sky broadcasting so we can kiss them goodby. Every cloud has a silver etc. French, German and Spanish companies own large parts of our power supply, who’s going to generate electricity when you’ve kicked them out.

    I could go on but I think I’ve made my point.

    The last house we owned was in a genteel prosperous English suburb. Not only were our neighbours white they were a fucking nightmare. Throwing their rubbish into our garden, letting down the tyres on our car and threatening our son with violence. After thirteen years we moved next door to a Moslem family who have lived in the same house since the seventies and nicer, more graceful people you could not hope to meet; in the thirteen years we have lived here we have not had a moments trouble with them, they are ideal neighbours who have worked and prospered here for years contributing to our tax take and hurting no one! And you want to kick them out!

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    You might ask your delightful Moslem neighbors to teach you about this a little statistical concept known as "average." It'll open up a whole new world to you.

    Btw, did you know that there are white players in the NBA, even an Asian guy? Yep, we're all the same under the skin. We're just one more Five-Year Plan from women being 50% of the league, and, with your help, we'll reach that goal. Well done, sir. Well done.

    I could go on but I think I’ve made my point.

     

    Indeed.
    , @Lurker
    Pathetic.
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  59. Chuck says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    Nothing new here. I and some other Nippon-resident iStevers have been warning about this. And I repeat that Abe is an Invade/Invite PM.

    It's all a huge mistake. The foreigners moving to Japan are not making enough. I don't have stats, but I'm looking around and seeing a net drain on social services. And that's saying nothing about the effects on society of having a bunch of foreign self-interested leftists and their mongrels stinking the place up.

    Is it mostly other east asians?

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    There's been a huge increase in Chinese tourism, but as far as I can tell, little interest from Chinese and Koreans in moving to Japan. Maybe for obvious historical reasons.

    I do see more Europeans and Americans, including more American blacks. Also, an increase in South Asians. But I caution this is my own observations and not stats.

    But I consider Euro and American youth to be stinkers up of the place, bringing in their knee-jerk leftism and calling for cultural changes to make Japan more like USA and EU. Not to mention the demographic issues associated with the ditch hitch glitch.
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  60. @CK
    What is the vertical axis supposed to be?
    I am guessing that it is in 10,000s.

    Nope, I think the y-axis is in percent of the total. I should say, that’s what it was intended to be, but at the year 1940, I get, by eyeball: 24 + 22.5 + 18 + 14.5 + 14 + 10.5 + 9 + 0 = ~ 116, so even that is screwed up. In 1990, I get close to that, about 115 (try some sums on other vertical grid-lines), but I doubt it is some kind of absolute number. Maybe it was some sort of index(?).

    That is no way to make a graph. You’ve got to label both axes AND have units (OK, years are counts, so they don’t have units.)

    Notwithstanding the Practical Conservatives’s good points about the screwed-up stats, and political influence, this graph sucks.

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  61. @Autochthon
    And the showers and tubs can be converted to living spaces!

    And the showers and tubs can be converted to living spaces!

    Haha, yeah, they’re just antiquated relics from the old colonial age. (Plus the copper will get you some quick cash, if they are really antiquated.)

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    And when you've done stripping the house of its copper, there's miles of electric wire out there to be harvested for cash, although there's a chance all you'll get is a Darwin Award instead.
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  62. @YetAnotherAnon
    "These days, any report or “study” about any social issue — crime, housing, jobs, health care, education, you name it — that doesn’t mention immigration, is a fundamentally unserious report or study, fit only for the trash bin."

    From this month, all English babies are to be vaccinated against hepatitis B, something that hardly existed in the UK a generation ago (bit like TB, really).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4678522/ALL-newborns-given-hepatitis-B-jab.html


    "In 2012, PHE reported that 19 out of every 20 antenatal women testing positive for hepatitis B in London were born abroad. Of those, nearly half were born in Africa.

    It concluded: ‘Long-term infections in migrants are estimated to account for around 96 per cent of all new long-term hepatitis B infections in the UK.’

    More than 500,000 people moved to Britain last year, half of whom came from outside the EU. A quarter of mothers giving birth on the NHS are now foreign-born.

    Fresh data from PHE indicates that the number of pregnant women infected with the virus is increasing fast. A previous version of its ‘green book’ for doctors, from 2013, stated that about one in 700 was hep B- positive.

    But a new version, published three days ago, shows the national figure is now one in 250. Rates are higher than one in 100 in some inner- city areas. None of these facts is cited in PHE’s rationale for vaccinating all babies.

    Paul Desmond, of the Hep B Positive Trust, claimed political correctness had allowed an ‘unseen epidemic’ to develop. He said: ‘We’ve invited the world – and forgotten its medicine.’"
     

    Thorfinsson - you mistake. People HAVE to have a roof over their heads - it's not like the decision to take a holiday or buy a consumer good which you can put off. A small surplus of properties will cause a large price fall (if the owners HAVE to sell, which obviously they don't), a small shortage (caused by immigration) will cause a large price rise.

    A small surplus of properties will cause a large price fall (if the owners HAVE to sell, which obviously they don’t), a small shortage (caused by immigration) will cause a large price rise.

    People, people … oh kay… what Mr. YAA is saying is that housing prices in England are …..

    anyone? anyone?

    “in” something …. anyone?

    anyone?

    in-elastic. Now the slope of the supply/demand curve must be … anyone ?

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  63. Nigel Farage says: “IMMIGRATION is the number one issue in British politics, it has been for some years, the opinion polls are astonishing, 77 percent of the British public want cuts to the numbers coming into Britain, and over half the voters want a reduction to near zero. So people are very upset, they’re very unhappy. They’re seeing the impact on local schools, they’re seeing the impact on GP services, they’re seeing the impact on housing or the inability of YOUNG PEOPLE to get on the housing ladder. So that’s why it’s the number one issue.”

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  64. @The Practical Conservative
    He "oversampled" gays, it explicitly states that it covers both marriage and boyfriends/girlfriends, so it's a way to underreport and obscure the actual ways married people who have children in wedlock meet each other.


    The graph also goes out of its way to separate out intermingled meeting methods. It's neither honest nor useful.

    Could you point us to the source? The caption on that graph says heterosexual so I don’t understand your point…

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  65. @Wency
    I have a very tough time believing college men are afraid to hit on the women around them for fear of sexual harassment accusations. The kind of young man who will talk himself out of approaching a woman may occasionally use such accusations as a rationalization for his cowardice, but he would be just as afraid in any other world.

    In practice, a man who won't pursue his college classmates (or isn't lucky enough to be pursued by them) will probably be celibate. Celibacy can become more common on the margin, but it's a safe bet that 20-year-old men as a group are always and everywhere highly motivated to avoid it.

    That said, it's obvious that training young people (especially women) not to commit too early has led to fewer people marrying their college sweethearts.

    Now, the workplace is different: here you have more mature men who have lots of other options for seeking young women (unlike colleges, where you're in a bubble). So as soon as the culture turns against sexual harassment (i.e., criminalized unwanted advances), it's relatively easy to deem it not worth the risk and cast it aside without having to embrace celibacy.

    Though one question: how many jobs exist that bring together young men and young women, and what has been the trend there? I think most such jobs are in retail and restaurants. Perhaps also healthcare. I work in finance, and I've never had an attractive female co-worker, so I've barely noticed the whole arc of sexual harassment.

    The most striking line in that chart is “neighbors”. Yep, not knowing, not trusting your neighbors…and in my neighborhood not speaking a common language. We’re looking at a crash in social capital.

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  66. Rob McX says:
    @Charles Pewitt
    https://twitter.com/SimonIckeUK/status/881892022260510721

    England is being paved over in order to house the foreigners. 300, 000 foreigners a year are flooding into the UK. Most of the foreigners are going into England. Native Brits whose ancestors have been in England for millennia in many cases are being pushed out of certain parts of England by the invading foreigners. The evil ruling class of England is aiding and abetting the displacement of native White Brits by means of mass immigration.

    Many of the voters who voted to leave the European Union were displaced native White Brits who were pushed out of London and other English cities by the intolerable living conditions created by mass immigration. They felt like foreigners in their own land.

    The evil ruling class of England pushes mass immigration as a way to destroy cultural cohesion and to destroy national sovereignty. The average native White Brit voted to leave the EU because that was a way to express their displeasure with mass immigration.

    Something has got to give. That is why many people see civil war on the horizon in many European Christian nations such as England and the United States. The evil ruling classes of England and the United States will not stop the mass immigration invasion without a fight. The evil ruling classes will soon get a fight, and they will be dislodged from power.

    In case there’s any doubt in people’s minds about their intentions, Andrew Neather, speech-writer for Blair and other prominent Labour politicians, was left “with the clear sense that [immigration] policy was intended – even if this wasn’t its main purpose – to rub the Right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date. That seemed to me to be a manoeuvre too far.”

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    This Tweet is from 2014:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/547176481638461440

    Tony Blair and Labour opened up the mass immigration floodgates in 1997. Tony Blair and Labour wanted to reduce the percentage of native White Brits in the UK to crush the Tories electorally and to rub the right's nose in diversity.

    Cameron and the Tories did nothing to reduce the mass immigration invasion destroying Britain when they came to power in 2010.
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  67. Rob McX says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    And the showers and tubs can be converted to living spaces!
     
    Haha, yeah, they're just antiquated relics from the old colonial age. (Plus the copper will get you some quick cash, if they are really antiquated.)

    And when you’ve done stripping the house of its copper, there’s miles of electric wire out there to be harvested for cash, although there’s a chance all you’ll get is a Darwin Award instead.

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    They'll need to leave the wiring, or enough to charge up their iPhones anyway, to run their app to direct them which way to pray (magnetic east or true east, great circle vs. euclidean path, etc.) There's a whole lot more to it than we infidels think - especially us non-5G-capable infidels.
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  68. Rob McX says:
    @Lurker
    SJW/libtards always point out that immigration has no effect on the housing market, or rates of TB or a host of other things. It's pretty amazing - the range of things entirely unaffected by immigration seems almost endless. So much so that I often ask them that since immigration doesn't seem to affect anything, why do we need it?

    It’s pretty amazing – the range of things entirely unaffected by immigration seems almost endless.

    On the other hand, the tiniest micro-aggression can have devastating effects, like the proverbial butterfly causing a tornado.

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  69. @Rob McX
    In case there's any doubt in people's minds about their intentions, Andrew Neather, speech-writer for Blair and other prominent Labour politicians, was left "with the clear sense that [immigration] policy was intended - even if this wasn't its main purpose - to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date. That seemed to me to be a manoeuvre too far."

    This Tweet is from 2014:

    Tony Blair and Labour opened up the mass immigration floodgates in 1997. Tony Blair and Labour wanted to reduce the percentage of native White Brits in the UK to crush the Tories electorally and to rub the right’s nose in diversity.

    Cameron and the Tories did nothing to reduce the mass immigration invasion destroying Britain when they came to power in 2010.

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  70. Olorin says:
    @Grumpy
    You are less likely to want to buy a house if you watched your childhood neighborhood undergo a demographic transformation. You don't want to get stuck like your parents did.

    This. Absolutely.

    Watching this happen to my parents in the ’60s and ’70s in the Rust Belt city of my origins is precisely what kept me from buying till I could afford a very fat down payment in a nice neighborhood that seemed unlikely to be so transformed in the 20 years of the mortgage.

    But there was also the element of understanding how mortgages work.

    I.e., if you don’t have a lot of equity and have to borrow most of the amount of the (ever escalating) house price each time you refinance, the interest resets to its front-end load. You never build equity, but the bank gets its share for sure.

    Meanwhile the banksters are working hard to drive down the value of your house/neighborhood through racial engineering schemes masquing as altruistic. In fact, they’re simply ensuring destruction of average families’ wealth and corollary debt serfdom.

    There’s another crucial element, also related to immigration:

    Since 1993 job security for young people evaporated. Which means having to move often.

    Which means, if you own–which is to say are financing the purchase of–a house, having to sell and re-buy. Each time resetting the 30 year interest to the front end of the amortization. If a family has to move every 5 to 6 years, they’re basically renting from the banks and never building equity.

    So who the hell would expect them to buy houses when all it means is paying interest on debt, never getting ahead with principal, never building equity, housing prices skyrocketing, and constant demographic transformation of anywhere nice in the service of Creative Destruction, ensuring the erosion of the house you slave to buy? A chump’s game.

    At least with a college degree/debt you gamble on maybe getting a better or more stable job some day.

    The banksters/lenders brought this on everyone and should all be taken out and shot.

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  71. g2k says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    Steve Sailer and his loyal commenters rightly zero in on immigration, but this isn't the sole or even dominant cause of soaring home prices in the United Kingdom.

    Most of the UK has Bay Area style land use laws/regulations, effectively. And unlike the USA, this even affects the countryside. A few years ago a farmer who was denied permission to build a house on his farm by the local council chose to pile hay bales high and build a house in secret.

    The outcome of this? The is is being torn down and the farmer will apparently be jailed: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/farmer-who-built-castle-hidden-7658785

    The entire United Kingdom built only 100,000 new dwellings last year. Japan, with its falling population, built 800,000 new dwellings.

    The financial and economic policies of the UK contribute to soaring home values as well. The combination of fiscal austerity and monetary looseness leads to soaring asset prices. Because the UK didn't have a subprime housing bubble and really does have a genuine shortage of housing, this means that property remains a highly desirable asset class unlike in the USA (outside of certain metro areas anyway).

    There is some relief to be found in Wales, North England, Scotland, and Ulster. In Newcastle houses can be had for £100,000. The trouble is that nearly all the good jobs are now in Southern England.

    If one has a remote/online income then Ulster is arguably the best place to live in Western Europe. American heartland housing prices, Japanese crime rates, 98% white.

    Very good summary of the situation. A perfect storm of low interest rates, uneven job distribution, immigration and draconian zoning laws is responsible for this. On top of this there’s the liberalisation of pensions; oldies can now take their entire pension pot as a lump sum and invest it in rental properties rather than be paid no interest on it and there’s also various government schemes to drive up prices, help to buy etc.

    Public sector jobs are another escape route.

    At the minute, a there are more winners from this than losers, at least among those who can be bothered to vote, so there’s unlikely to be any changes soon. It’ll be interesting to see how things pan out. Dementia costs are likely to seriously cut inheritances.

    Ulster is really quite grim. Liverpool or Newcastle give the best bang for buck at the minute. Manchester is in the early stages of gentrification.

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  72. g2k says:
    @MikeJa
    Sure it's bad news for all the kids who can't afford a house, but the good news is Sailer's Affordable Family Formation Hypothesis explains the collapse in the Conservative share of the younger voters

    Generally, but there’s other factors at play. The conservatives were traditionally the party of the landed gentry and the rural shires are their heartlands, along with a few pockets of urban (very) old money; house prices aren’t generally drastically cheaper there. Having said that, in rural areas that have reached a critical mass of yuppies, the liberals do well.

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  73. @Rob McX
    And when you've done stripping the house of its copper, there's miles of electric wire out there to be harvested for cash, although there's a chance all you'll get is a Darwin Award instead.

    They’ll need to leave the wiring, or enough to charge up their iPhones anyway, to run their app to direct them which way to pray (magnetic east or true east, great circle vs. euclidean path, etc.) There’s a whole lot more to it than we infidels think – especially us non-5G-capable infidels.

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  74. @Chuck
    Is it mostly other east asians?

    There’s been a huge increase in Chinese tourism, but as far as I can tell, little interest from Chinese and Koreans in moving to Japan. Maybe for obvious historical reasons.

    I do see more Europeans and Americans, including more American blacks. Also, an increase in South Asians. But I caution this is my own observations and not stats.

    But I consider Euro and American youth to be stinkers up of the place, bringing in their knee-jerk leftism and calling for cultural changes to make Japan more like USA and EU. Not to mention the demographic issues associated with the ditch hitch glitch.

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  75. @Chrisnonymous
    There's been a huge increase in Chinese tourism, but as far as I can tell, little interest from Chinese and Koreans in moving to Japan. Maybe for obvious historical reasons.

    I do see more Europeans and Americans, including more American blacks. Also, an increase in South Asians. But I caution this is my own observations and not stats.

    But I consider Euro and American youth to be stinkers up of the place, bringing in their knee-jerk leftism and calling for cultural changes to make Japan more like USA and EU. Not to mention the demographic issues associated with the ditch hitch glitch.

    Also, at some point when Europe gets too crowded, the Muzzies will realize that their German passports get them visas into Japan. Then Japan will have some deciding to do.

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  76. @Bong
    Let's start with "deport the invaders." I presume you mean all foreigners. That's my wife, she was born in Australia, our son too. Then there's my mum who got out of Germany one step ahead of the gas chambers, joined the British army to fight the Nazi bastards met and married our dad in the army and had five kids with him; she's in her nineties and you want to kick her out.

    Do you want to kick out Aldi, it's German, Lidle too. Asda is American so they can go. Tsb bank is owned by a Spanish company and the Co-Operative Bank is now owned by US hedge funds from New York so they'll have to go. Thank god if you get your way the sun (I wont call it a newspaper), the times and FT are all owned by an Aussie American and the same family own Sky broadcasting so we can kiss them goodby. Every cloud has a silver etc. French, German and Spanish companies own large parts of our power supply, who's going to generate electricity when you've kicked them out.

    I could go on but I think I've made my point.

    The last house we owned was in a genteel prosperous English suburb. Not only were our neighbours white they were a fucking nightmare. Throwing their rubbish into our garden, letting down the tyres on our car and threatening our son with violence. After thirteen years we moved next door to a Moslem family who have lived in the same house since the seventies and nicer, more graceful people you could not hope to meet; in the thirteen years we have lived here we have not had a moments trouble with them, they are ideal neighbours who have worked and prospered here for years contributing to our tax take and hurting no one! And you want to kick them out!

    You might ask your delightful Moslem neighbors to teach you about this a little statistical concept known as “average.” It’ll open up a whole new world to you.

    Btw, did you know that there are white players in the NBA, even an Asian guy? Yep, we’re all the same under the skin. We’re just one more Five-Year Plan from women being 50% of the league, and, with your help, we’ll reach that goal. Well done, sir. Well done.

    I could go on but I think I’ve made my point.

    Indeed.

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  77. @Grumpy
    You are less likely to want to buy a house if you watched your childhood neighborhood undergo a demographic transformation. You don't want to get stuck like your parents did.

    That’s a very good point.

    That’s one of the reasons that people strive so hard to live in high-cost neighborhoods. It protects them from having the neighborhood turn.

    Middle and lower-middle class white neighborhoods can turn on a dime. Best to stretch yourself to the max and buy in a neighborhood that’s just too damn expensive for NAMs to be a foothold.

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  78. @Paul Walker - Most beautiful man ever...
    But the food! A Yemeni restaurant has opened near me - who wouldn't want baked insects and tree-bark soup?

    Yemeni restaurant? Try the Qat! Beats going hungry.

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  79. @Wency
    I have a very tough time believing college men are afraid to hit on the women around them for fear of sexual harassment accusations. The kind of young man who will talk himself out of approaching a woman may occasionally use such accusations as a rationalization for his cowardice, but he would be just as afraid in any other world.

    In practice, a man who won't pursue his college classmates (or isn't lucky enough to be pursued by them) will probably be celibate. Celibacy can become more common on the margin, but it's a safe bet that 20-year-old men as a group are always and everywhere highly motivated to avoid it.

    That said, it's obvious that training young people (especially women) not to commit too early has led to fewer people marrying their college sweethearts.

    Now, the workplace is different: here you have more mature men who have lots of other options for seeking young women (unlike colleges, where you're in a bubble). So as soon as the culture turns against sexual harassment (i.e., criminalized unwanted advances), it's relatively easy to deem it not worth the risk and cast it aside without having to embrace celibacy.

    Though one question: how many jobs exist that bring together young men and young women, and what has been the trend there? I think most such jobs are in retail and restaurants. Perhaps also healthcare. I work in finance, and I've never had an attractive female co-worker, so I've barely noticed the whole arc of sexual harassment.

    “Though one question: how many jobs exist that bring together young men and young women, and what has been the trend there? I think most such jobs are in retail and restaurants. Perhaps also healthcare. I work in finance, and I’ve never had an attractive female co-worker, so I’ve barely noticed the whole arc of sexual harassment.”

    Um…everything other than finance/banking, engineering and manual labor?

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  80. Well, perhaps the non-homeowners are in large part the immigrants themselves. One can hope, at least.

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  81. @Whiskey
    Why would they talk about immigration? Its sacred. And a highly unequal society is the goal. Among other things, a highly unequal society allows women to suss out true Alpha males from beta male pretenders. Look at say, the Detroit metro area with blighted inner city ghettos and outer ring fancy suburbs. Just to live in the outer ring marks one an Alpha; to live like James LaFond does in the ghetto inner city (he lives in Baltimore, Detroit Part Deux) makes one a beta male loser.

    Sooner or later actual White serfdom by non-White rulers will be the rule in most European and North American nations. And again that's chick crack, like a Game of Thrones Marathon mixed in with say, Real Housewives of Atlanta.

    What, anyone in Britain will say "British women and cucks, you make Britain into a third world hell-hole like a Judge Dredd comic book by mass immigration." Yeah, right.

    Why would they talk about immigration? Its sacred. And a highly unequal society is the goal. Among other things, a highly unequal society allows women to suss out true Alpha males from beta male pretenders.

    A perfectly equal society is one in which every man is an alpha. You know, as Huey Long promised: “Every man a king.”

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  82. Lurker says:
    @Bong
    Let's start with "deport the invaders." I presume you mean all foreigners. That's my wife, she was born in Australia, our son too. Then there's my mum who got out of Germany one step ahead of the gas chambers, joined the British army to fight the Nazi bastards met and married our dad in the army and had five kids with him; she's in her nineties and you want to kick her out.

    Do you want to kick out Aldi, it's German, Lidle too. Asda is American so they can go. Tsb bank is owned by a Spanish company and the Co-Operative Bank is now owned by US hedge funds from New York so they'll have to go. Thank god if you get your way the sun (I wont call it a newspaper), the times and FT are all owned by an Aussie American and the same family own Sky broadcasting so we can kiss them goodby. Every cloud has a silver etc. French, German and Spanish companies own large parts of our power supply, who's going to generate electricity when you've kicked them out.

    I could go on but I think I've made my point.

    The last house we owned was in a genteel prosperous English suburb. Not only were our neighbours white they were a fucking nightmare. Throwing their rubbish into our garden, letting down the tyres on our car and threatening our son with violence. After thirteen years we moved next door to a Moslem family who have lived in the same house since the seventies and nicer, more graceful people you could not hope to meet; in the thirteen years we have lived here we have not had a moments trouble with them, they are ideal neighbours who have worked and prospered here for years contributing to our tax take and hurting no one! And you want to kick them out!

    Pathetic.

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