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What’s up?

- It’s been a fun election, hasn’t it?

- And it’s been the most serious Presidential election in recent years in terms of massively important issues about the future of America finally being aired by one of the candidates.

- Here’s Florida with 70% counted:

Screenshot 2016-11-08 17.39.22

- Here’s my conspiracy theory about rigging elections in Florida. From my Taki’s column in August:

Puerto Rico: All Banana, No Republic

Puerto Rico is being allowed to fall apart in order to rig American presidential elections by tipping Florida’s electoral votes to the Democrats. The looting of Puerto Rico’s institutions by the rich and the poor alike is depopulating the island. …

In short, what the Puerto Rican nation needs is nationalism.

From the perspective of the Hillary Clinton campaign, however, the emptying out of Puerto Rico into Orlando, which is now a “de facto San Juan suburb,” is a feature, not a bug, since it helps tip Florida, the Electoral College’s most important purple state, permanently blue.

As Al Gore painfully discovered in 2000, the path to 270 electoral votes is much easier with Florida in your column. And even a small number of votes can determine who wins Florida’s 29 electoral votes and thus the White House.

Although Puerto Ricans were granted American citizenship in 1917 (in time to be drafted into the Great War), the island isn’t a state; therefore, it gets no electoral votes in presidential elections. But Puerto Ricans enjoy open borders with the United States and they can vote as soon as they settle in any state.

As Hillary Clinton recently reminded Puerto Ricans in a speech in the Orlando area:

If you live in Puerto Rico, you can’t vote for your president and Commander-in-Chief, right?… But as an American citizen, if you move to Florida or New York, you can vote for the president and Commander-in-Chief.

The Democrats’ intensive ground game in Orlando to register new arrivals from Puerto Rico isn’t controversial. After all, the Democrats’ grand strategy in the 21st century is for the government to elect a new people, while demonizing as hateful racists any Americans who dare object to politicians importing foreign ringers to win elections. Within that context, Hillary’s Puerto Rican ploy is among her less ethically challenged immigration stratagems.

A recent Pew Center poll found:

Hillary Clinton dominates among Hispanics—unless they’re English-speaking or American-born.

Pew noted:

Clinton holds an 80%–11% lead among Hispanic voters who are bilingual or Spanish-dominant (those who are more proficient in Spanish than English); these voters make up about 57% of all Latino registered voters. However, among the smaller group of Hispanic voters (43%) who are English-dominant—those who are more proficient in English than Spanish—just 48% back Clinton (41% would vote for Trump).

Of course, these days, Hispanics who don’t speak English, weren’t born in America, and might not, technically speaking, be legal voters are widely felt to possess the moral high ground over Hispanic voters tainted by being born here and speaking our national language.

Thus continues the transformation of Franklin’s American Republic into Puerto Rico Grande.

 
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  1. I voted less than an hour after polls opened in Fairfax County, VA with no line at all. My colleagues reported the same thing at their polling places. Let’s hope that there’s big turnout for The Donald in downstate VA!

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    • Replies: @27 year old
    Here in my not Pittsburgh, not Philadelphia city in PA, we got to the polling place about 5 mins before it opened and there was already a 30+ person line. Total wait time was a little over 20 mins. Nobody wearing red, but then again I wasn't either.
    , @hhsiii
    My wife took our 7-year-old daughter at 6:00 a.m. It was my wife's first at age 34, since she moved here at 18 from Latvia and just became a citizen last year. It took her 50 minutes. I went at 8:00 and took over an hour. This is on the Upper East Side in NYC. I've never seen lines like this here. It never took me longer than 10 minutes in over 30 years of voting here. My first presidential vote was in '84 in North Carolina. My vote would be more consequential there I imagine. Nine judges on the ballot for 9 slots. All Dems. I just wrote in a bunch of names. Although I don't know if Steve qualifies. Or if elected would serve.
    , @Georgina
    Had the same experience voting in Fairfax County, VA. Got in and out in less than five minutes. Four years ago, the line at the same voting location (and same time of day) was two blocks long and it took over an hour to vote. My congressional district voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004, Obama in 2008 and 2012.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Last time I voted was for GWB in 2000. Didn't work out so well. As I voted for The Donald I got a tears in my eyes. The chance to vote for my hero! As Dylan said,either I'm too sensitive or else I'm gettin' soft.
    , @ben tillman

    I voted less than an hour after polls opened in Fairfax County, VA with no line at all.
     
    No line at my precinct in Dallas, as the nice ladies there told me 560 of the 1000 registered voters had voted early.
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  2. Bicycle says:

    Steve, a recurring theme I hear about undecided voters is that while they dislike both Trump and Hillary they still like Obama and that because of this they will either vote Hillary, vote third party, or stay home. On the other hand conventional wisdom says undecided voters break late against the incumbent party. Just about every poll this cycle has had anywhere from 5-12% of voters undecided. How do you think they will go?

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "Steve, a recurring theme I hear about undecided voters is that while they dislike both Trump and Hillary they still like Obama and that because of this they will either vote Hillary, vote third party, or stay home."

    What you hear is likely from the MSM, who have no qualms about claiming whatever they want if it supports Hillary.

    'Undecideds' will likely support Trump. How many people are really undecided over such an important decision? They probably knew who they were going to vote for at least half a year ago, if not longer. Likely, undecideds feel the same pressure we all do about publicly supporting Trump, a doubleplus ungood white male candidate. As a result, they would rather tell a pollster that they're undecided than say they will vote Trump. In this day and age, that's a wise decision, given how SJWs are hellbent on attacking and ruining the careers of anyone who disagrees with them. For all they know, its a 'hundred flowers' campaign being covertly launched under the cover of a poll.

    At the voting booth, in private, though, its a different story.

    , @Joe Schmoe
    The joke among my son and his 18 year old friends who are first time voters is to answer with an enthusiastic and boisterous Gary Johnson 2016! followed by Straight ticket Libertarian! which is code for I am voting against Hillary and for Trump, but I am not letting you screw me!
  3. What’s up?

    The end of the United States if Americans don’t vote Trump.

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.

    I wouldn’t wish her on North Korea…

    Good luck to you all.

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    • Replies: @(((Owen)))

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.
     
    Tiny compared to the damage Dubya already did. There's still a chance to pick a credible patriotic candidate in 2020 when She'll be even more unpopular.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Notwithstanding my agreement, this is a calumny against Nurse Ratched.
    , @Inquiring Mind
    Nurse Ratched?

    Why isn't my Margaret Hamilton meme catching on?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT8qgvgk1rU

    "Well, my pretty, I can cause accidents, too!
    , @Michaeloh
    Nah. Nothing could be more favorable to the formation of a populist/nationalist/white racial awakening than 4-8 more years of open borders, section 8 racists coming to your hood, BLM, Django Unchained, racial discrimination vs whites in employment and education aka Affirmative Action and disparate impact, judicial Furhrer Directives, Obamacare, decreasing wages and increasing housing costs, etc. Call it the Hate Whitey Mindf*ck and nobody hates whitey like the Democrats. Eventually even naive weaklings like Ryan will wake up. It is, unfortunately, the only way white people learn.
  4. DWright says:

    Voting went smoothly here in Southeastern Michigan.
    One person behind me wanted a ballot to take home to her husband because he wasn’t notified by mail. (Guess which ethnic group)

    IDs required, two check points before voting. About all we can hope.

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    • Replies: @snorlax
    Which county? How much of a line was there?
    , @donut
    No ID required at my polling place in Md.
    , @Barnard

    (Guess which ethnic group)
     
    Dutch? German?
    , @anonymous
    In Macomb County Michigan in early afternoon, I was voter #535. No wait, but careful ID check. Good!
    DJT was here in Sterling Heights on Sunday to an enthusiastic crowd. He'll carry outstate Michigan, but the key will be Oakland County. It's too close too call now.
  5. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Steve, how are you voting on Prop. 60?

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    • Replies: @JimB
    Actually, I don't give a fig about the porn industry, and the thought of porn actors having to wear wearing safety goggles and nitrile gloves during fallatio is pretty hilarious. However, as a rule with few exceptions, No is the correct vote on all California propositions. They invariably make the sponsors economic winners at the expense of the voters.

    With a ballooning Hispanic renter class, expect a Prop 13 repeal in the next few election cycles. It will cause real estate values to implode as home buyers are forced to fold a hefty property tax into their monthly housing budget. If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners, but leaving them stuck in houses they can't sell. Eventually, large tracts of single family homes will be bulldozed to build garden apartments.

  6. Dissident says:

    I hope everyone will be on the outlook for any suspicious activity and, should any be noticed, report it.

    We must hold President Obama accountable for his having encouraged illegal aliens to vote:

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/video-of-obama-encouraging-young-illegal-to-vote-immigration-will-not-investigate

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  7. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Even if Trump wins, I’m going to be sad when this whole thing is over. This has been some of the most fun I’ve had in years!

    Daily media triggerings! The rise of Mookarthyism!

    Every day, I’ve been excited to get up, to see what crazy new stuff was going to happen.

    It’s been like a dream.

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  8. snorlax says:
    @DWright
    Voting went smoothly here in Southeastern Michigan.
    One person behind me wanted a ballot to take home to her husband because he wasn't notified by mail. (Guess which ethnic group)

    IDs required, two check points before voting. About all we can hope.

    Which county? How much of a line was there?

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    • Replies: @DWright
    Which county? How much of a line was there?

    Wayne, Downriver. Got out in 45 minutes this morning.
  9. JimB says:

    I live in a blue state. Trying to figure out if I should write in Bernie, since there is a pretty big Never Hillary movement out here. Voting for Trump is pointless, but if every Republican wrote in Bernie, it just might deny Hillary some electoral votes.

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    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    Vote for Trump. Even if he loses, and if your vote seems pointless (this Bernie scheming seems just as pointless as voting Trump, btw), the more votes Trump gets, the weaker GOPe will look, and the louder the f***you to the establishment will be. Basically, the more votes the Donald gets, the stronger the alt right will be after the elections. Obviously the best thing is if he wins, but even if he loses, the more votes he gets, the harder it will be to explain away his voters.
    , @Cabrini Green Mommy
    But your vote still counts as a data point in support of Trump/nationalism/law&order, etc. It's extremely valuable information for local representatives. I want my Democratic reps to know that they have constituents that disapprove of their positions on immigration. I want the Illinois Republican Party to know that I voted for Trump but not for Mark Kirk.

    The Cabrini Green polling station was staffed by fat and jolly black ladies whose dialect is incomprehensible to me. But they were super sweet to my 15-month-old daughter, so I was inclined to like them.
    , @Kyle a
    That might be one of the more idiotic comments I e seen here.
  10. Podunk polling place that saw seventy people the entire day last election has seen over seventy by 8am.

    Heavy Trump area too. This is gonna be a doozy.

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  11. In order of swing-state poll closing times for easy election night reference,

    5pm
    VA: Hillary
    NH: Hillary
    5:30
    NC: Hillary
    OH: Trump
    6pm
    ME: Hillary
    PA: Hillary
    FL: Hillary
    7pm
    MI: Hillary
    WI: Hillary
    MN: Hillary
    CO: Hillary
    AZ: Hillary
    8pm
    IA: Trump
    UT: Trump
    NV: Hillary

    Electoral College: 334 Hillary – 204 Trump

    I put up my final forecast a week ago and I’m still happy with it. Things have tightened in NC and AZ and I’d now predict that AZ will go Trump and NC is 50/50, if it weren’t too late to change. My new total would be 308-230, if I were updating based on today’s polls.

    But I put up my final prediction a week ago and it’s set in stone: 334-204. Really, its an amazingly good outcome for a presidential candidate who can’t discipline himself to go a week without a self-imposed major embarrassment and who couldn’t be bothered to learn anything about the issues or practice for a debate or organize a ground game for turnout.

    Which makes me wonder why Republicans nominated a guy like that. Oh yeah, I remember: Because the Republican Party is such a treasonous screwup swamp that all sixteen other candidates were clearly and obviously worse.

    Don’t forget to vote.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Really, its an amazingly good outcome for a presidential candidate who can’t discipline himself to go a week without a self-imposed major embarrassment and who couldn’t be bothered to learn anything about the issues or practice for a debate or organize a ground game for turnout.

    Which makes me wonder why Republicans nominated a guy like that. Oh yeah, I remember: Because the Republican Party is such a treasonous screwup swamp that all sixteen other candidates were clearly and obviously worse.

    Don’t forget to vote.


    Well said.
    , @colm
    You would rather be right than maintain western civilization.

    President Huma Abedin will not keep Western Civilization - she will tell everyone to bow five times to Mecca's direction soon.
    , @ThePrince
    LOL!!
    , @C
    This is one of the dumbest posts I've seen:

    1. Trump's "self-imposed" major embarrassments were nothing but drummed up bull shit. Remember, this is a media that reported that Mitt Romney killed a guy, made a big deal about him putting a dog on the roof of his car, made him out to be a homophobe by bringing up some story about him "bullying" a gay classmate, labelled him racist, sexist, etc. The only differences this time around are: Trump is a credible threat to the establishment and not a career politician, thus more likely to not speak in a typical drone fashion.

    2. Trump won the second and third debate

    3. Newt on Trump's ground game: https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/795632608684163073

    Oh and your map has no chance of being accurate. Sit this one out concern troll.

    See You Next Tuesday.
    , @(((Owen)))
    Well, I suppose it's now about an hour past the point when I ought to have apologised for this moronic projection. Sorry for trusting the scientific polling and historic projections of voting behavior when I should have known this time everything is different.

    #MAGA
  12. I have a hunch that this is going to be an election in which the enthusiasm gap is going to make a measurable dent on the final outcome.

    Even in my very, very blue suburban MA town, I see hardly any Hillary signs. My son lives in one of the few reliably blue counties in Western PA and sees nothing but Trump signs. The turnouts for the events of each campaign seem to favor Trump by an order of magnitude.

    Enthusiasm is the best GOTV mechanism. I doubt that blacks or Hispanics feel it toward Hillary. Working class whites feel it toward Trump like nobody in recent history.

    The open question is what comes of the college educated whites, who favored Romney over Obama, but don’t at least appear to do so with Trump over Hillary. On the other hand, there’s some decent evidence that college educated whites are exhibiting some real Shy Trump effect:

    “Donald Trump performs consistently better in online polling where a human being is not talking to another human being about what he or she may do in the elections,” [Kellyanne] Conway said. “It’s become socially desirable, especially if you’re a college-educated person in the U.S., to say that you’re against Donald Trump.”

    The POLITICO/Morning Consult study suggests Conway — who didn’t reply to a POLITICO request for an interview on Wednesday — is at least half right. While the overall results found completing the survey online didn’t boost Trump significantly, he did run stronger among more-educated voters.

    In phone interviews, likely voters with a college degree said they support Clinton by a 21-point margin, 60 percent to 39 percent. But online, that margin shrunk to just 7 points, 53 percent to 46 percent.

    Similarly, among likely voters in households earning more than $50,000 annually, Clinton leads by 10 points over the phone, 54 percent to 44 percent. The candidates run neck-and-neck among these voters online, however: 50 percent for Trump, and 49 percent for Clinton.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/poll-shy-voters-trump-230667

    How much might the enthusiasm gap count for? How much might the Shy Trump effect count for?

    God only knows — at least until later tonight or tomorrow.

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    • Replies: @(((Owen)))

    Even in my very, very blue suburban MA town, I see hardly any Hillary signs. My son lives in one of the few reliably blue counties in Western PA and sees nothing but Trump signs.
     
    Professional campaigns like Hillary's have abandoned lawn signs. Scientific studies proved that they don't help produce more votes. That's why you see lots of Trump signs and almost no Hillary signs.

    some decent evidence that college educated whites are exhibiting some real Shy Trump effect:
     
    Whenever I mention to my family and friends that Trump would be a fine president and not the next coming of a certain Austrian gentleman, I always get a hard angry disapprobation from one or more of them. Trump is a maniac and evil and no decent person could possibly be considering a vote for that fascist, I am told. Sometimes there is sputtering with anger and actual spittle. It's no wonder educated patriotic white people have learned to keep their preferences quiet in company.

    I'm a little confused what has a significant number of folks so irrationally het up with hate, but it's a fact of life now. I don't expect that it has biased surveys, though. Trump actually underperformed his polls consistently in the primary and automated polls don't show him doing any better than live caller polls. You'd expect one of those two effects to show up by now if the number of shy Trump voters and the reverse Bradley Effects were large enough to matter.

    334 Hillary-204 Trump is my prediction for tonight.
  13. @celt darnell
    What's up?

    The end of the United States if Americans don't vote Trump.

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.

    I wouldn't wish her on North Korea...

    Good luck to you all.

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.

    Tiny compared to the damage Dubya already did. There’s still a chance to pick a credible patriotic candidate in 2020 when She’ll be even more unpopular.

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    • Replies: @celt darnell
    Your patriotic candidate won't even get out of the starting blocks.

    Hellary will have not only legalized all the illegals already in the U.S. (who's going to stop her? A Republican congress?) she'll have allowed millions more in -- a much larger proportion of which will be voting in 2020 than this time around.

    Obama outdid Dubya easily (sabotage trumps incompetence). Ratched won't allow herself to be outdone by the Mulatto.

    , @peterike

    There’s still a chance to pick a credible patriotic candidate in 2020 when She’ll be even more unpopular

     

    Lol! Like who? Muh Ted Crooze? Please. Just another Goldman Sachs flunky, except he waves around a Bible in one hand and The Constitution in the other to sucker the rubes.
    , @fnn

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.

    Tiny compared to the damage Dubya already did.
     
    HRC is the neocon's neocon. She wants war with Russia.
    , @colm
    There won't be a 2020 election. There will never be a credible patriotic candidate.
    , @WhatEvvs
    "Tiny compared to the damage Dubya already did. "

    She hasn't taken office yet. What if she gets us into a war with Russia - and China?
  14. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Donald Trump’s implicit endorsement of Eric Trump’s call for David Duke to take a “bullet to the head” was too much for me. I am staying home today.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    to take a “bullet to the head”
     
    Bad idea. Bullets belong in the text, not in the head:

    http://fsymbols.com/signs/bullet-point/

    Duke would of course prefer a white bullet, so that's what I used.
    •Tiny would use a black one.
    ⁌Or a leftward one.
    ⁍I, of course, prefer rightward.
    ‣Hillary, like her husband, would triangulate.
  15. Tiny Duck says:

    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn’t feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won’t have to.

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    • Replies: @ken
    What law firm do you work for?
    , @Hanoi Paris Hilton
    You go, grrrlll!
    , @Jack D
    Could the President be white if he was gay or tranny? Caitlyn Jenner for President!
    , @Tulip
    Good to see another American has overcome racial bias.

    I don't see how America will ever be tolerant and inclusive unless we exclude people based on immutable characteristics from holding political office.

    , @snorlax
    Weren't you straight mere weeks ago?

    C'mon man, don't start slipping on us.
    , @bored identity
    While I don't have any doubts on how are you paying tribute to Hillary's laminated poster on daily basis, don't you think that calling an inflatable doll a partner is far too creepy even for you, Tiny D?


    When Trump wins we'll hook-up your beta weakling with some good ol' trashy Vladivostok galls; just to show you how Donald is quite Reasonable-in-Chief when it comes to immigration issues.

    Now, please go and change the wig on your ...significant other.
    , @fish
    Oh Tiny....you keep looking for it.....it's down there somewhere. Maybe your "partner" can help you?
    , @bored identity
    While I don't have any doubts on how are you paying tribute to Hillary's laminated poster on daily basis, don't you think that calling an inflatable doll a partner is far too creepy even for you, Tiny D?

    When Trump wins we'll hook-up your beta weakling with some good ol' trashy Vladivostok galls; just to show you how Donald is quite Reasonable-in-Chief when it comes to immigration issues.

    Now, please go and change the wig on your ...significant other.
    , @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    That was your most perfect comment ever!
    , @Jim Sweeney
    If you and yours succeed in eliminating white supremacy, you would soon discover the numerous joys of living in black or brown countries. Welcome to Venezuela, South Africa and all the other turd world dumps. Of course, if you're in a hurry, you could leave asap and save yourself mucho time and effort.
    , @Olorin
    How down low can you go?
    , @Hunsdon
    The God-Emperor Trump is gracious. He is generous, forgiving, kind. You, too, will love him soon enough.
    , @bored identity
    While I don't have any doubts on how are you paying tribute to Hillary's laminated poster on daily basis, don't you think that calling an inflatable doll a partner is far too creepy even for you Tiny D?

    When Trump wins we'll hook-up your beta weakling with some good ol' trashy Vladivostok galls; just to show you how Donald is quite Reasonable-in-Chief when it comes to immigration issues.

    Now, please go and change the wig on your ...significant other.
    , @Peripatetic commenter
    Tiny Duck is likely one of those bots mentioned here:

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/11/07/social-media-bots-working-to-influence-u-s-election/

    I've seen it posting the same crap on multiple blogs.

    Even less intelligent than Eliza.
  16. @(((Owen)))

    In order of swing-state poll closing times for easy election night reference,

    5pm
    VA: Hillary
    NH: Hillary
    5:30
    NC: Hillary
    OH: Trump
    6pm
    ME: Hillary
    PA: Hillary
    FL: Hillary
    7pm
    MI: Hillary
    WI: Hillary
    MN: Hillary
    CO: Hillary
    AZ: Hillary
    8pm
    IA: Trump
    UT: Trump
    NV: Hillary

    Electoral College: 334 Hillary – 204 Trump
     
    I put up my final forecast a week ago and I'm still happy with it. Things have tightened in NC and AZ and I'd now predict that AZ will go Trump and NC is 50/50, if it weren't too late to change. My new total would be 308-230, if I were updating based on today's polls.

    But I put up my final prediction a week ago and it's set in stone: 334-204. Really, its an amazingly good outcome for a presidential candidate who can't discipline himself to go a week without a self-imposed major embarrassment and who couldn't be bothered to learn anything about the issues or practice for a debate or organize a ground game for turnout.

    Which makes me wonder why Republicans nominated a guy like that. Oh yeah, I remember: Because the Republican Party is such a treasonous screwup swamp that all sixteen other candidates were clearly and obviously worse.

    Don't forget to vote.

    Really, its an amazingly good outcome for a presidential candidate who can’t discipline himself to go a week without a self-imposed major embarrassment and who couldn’t be bothered to learn anything about the issues or practice for a debate or organize a ground game for turnout.

    Which makes me wonder why Republicans nominated a guy like that. Oh yeah, I remember: Because the Republican Party is such a treasonous screwup swamp that all sixteen other candidates were clearly and obviously worse.

    Don’t forget to vote.

    Well said.

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    • Replies: @Anonym
    Trump's major screwup was some locker room talk more than a decade before he ran for office. Let he who is without sin...
  17. @JimB
    I live in a blue state. Trying to figure out if I should write in Bernie, since there is a pretty big Never Hillary movement out here. Voting for Trump is pointless, but if every Republican wrote in Bernie, it just might deny Hillary some electoral votes.

    Vote for Trump. Even if he loses, and if your vote seems pointless (this Bernie scheming seems just as pointless as voting Trump, btw), the more votes Trump gets, the weaker GOPe will look, and the louder the f***you to the establishment will be. Basically, the more votes the Donald gets, the stronger the alt right will be after the elections. Obviously the best thing is if he wins, but even if he loses, the more votes he gets, the harder it will be to explain away his voters.

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  18. keypusher says:

    Looked like a good turnout in Washington Heights. One vote for Trump, but not many more.

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    • Replies: @Dissident
    Washington Heights, Manhattan (NYC) by any chance?

    If so, are you, by any chance, the guy who used to call ("from Washington Heights") Bob Grant and promote Jared Taylor? "Kevin", was the name, If I recall correctly.
    , @Anonymous
    Wow. Washington Heights NYC?
    Count 3, mate.

    My roommate and I boarded the Trump train!
    , @sayless
    Looked like a good turnout in Washington Heights. One vote for Trump, but not many more.

    Up 200 %, keypusher. My godmother and myself. At least. (Broadway/186th).
  19. Guys, remember: the stakes have never been higher. Not only does the fate of Western Civilization depend on your vote, but also the fate of my bet for The Donald on Paddy Power. Please, vote accordingly.

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    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Not only does the fate of Western Civilization depend on your vote, but also the fate of my bet for The Donald on Paddy Power. Please, vote accordingly.
     
    Yeah, vote for Trump, and do a brother a favor! I got money riding on this thing too.
  20. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Bicycle
    Steve, a recurring theme I hear about undecided voters is that while they dislike both Trump and Hillary they still like Obama and that because of this they will either vote Hillary, vote third party, or stay home. On the other hand conventional wisdom says undecided voters break late against the incumbent party. Just about every poll this cycle has had anywhere from 5-12% of voters undecided. How do you think they will go?

    “Steve, a recurring theme I hear about undecided voters is that while they dislike both Trump and Hillary they still like Obama and that because of this they will either vote Hillary, vote third party, or stay home.”

    What you hear is likely from the MSM, who have no qualms about claiming whatever they want if it supports Hillary.

    ‘Undecideds’ will likely support Trump. How many people are really undecided over such an important decision? They probably knew who they were going to vote for at least half a year ago, if not longer. Likely, undecideds feel the same pressure we all do about publicly supporting Trump, a doubleplus ungood white male candidate. As a result, they would rather tell a pollster that they’re undecided than say they will vote Trump. In this day and age, that’s a wise decision, given how SJWs are hellbent on attacking and ruining the careers of anyone who disagrees with them. For all they know, its a ‘hundred flowers’ campaign being covertly launched under the cover of a poll.

    At the voting booth, in private, though, its a different story.

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  21. Just a couple of quick thoughts:

    1. I think the sudden skyrocketing of Obamacare premiums, combined with the last minute email stuff, has driven the undecided herd in Trump’s direction. Trump has behaved himself these last few weeks and perhaps the biggest applause line at his speeches has been when he promises to repeal Obamacare.

    2. You get absolutely no hint of this from the mainstream media, who have outdone themselves in over-the-top, beyond parody bias. It is simply inconceivable to them to publish an “analysis” which says, “Skyrocketing Obamacare premiums fueling last minute surge for Trump.” I’m not saying this is 100% percent true, but if they were even slightly neutral you could certainly create somewhat speculative analysis like that. Instead, all we get is the same well-worn cue cards: “Year of the Women!” “Critical Hispanic Voters!” “Crucial support of Millennials.”

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I think the sudden skyrocketing of Obamacare premiums, combined with the last minute email stuff, has driven the undecided herd in Trump’s direction.
     
    Or at least in Jill Stein's or Gary Johnson's or the living room couch. Which is almost as good.

    I've always thought it hopeless to get blacks to vote Republican, but quite feasible to get many of them to stop voting Democratic. Worked for James Hahn. (Yes, I know the ballot was "non-partisan".)
    , @candid_observer
    I think that the media is going to experience a reckoning after this election, no matter who wins.

    Between the exposures of WikiLeaks and the media's own egregious behavior in this election, the media will enter a period of widespread deep distrust far beyond anything in the past.

    Of course, from their megaphone they will declare that nothing they did was out of order -- which will, of course, only further erode public trust.

    It's going to be the economic consequences that will hit them and make them at least pretend to change their tune. I see a rise of a Breitbart inspired media to counter them, and take over a good portion of their audience.

    The situation reminds me a bit of the current one in the NFL. NFL viewership has been way down since the idiot Kaepernick decided he didn't much like this country because of its poor treatment of The Gentle Giant. The NFL and the media of course did everything at first to encourage him and highlight him. And the NFL and the media have since been emphatic that Kaepernick had nothing to do with the decline -- because they can never actually be wrong.

    But one couldn't help but notice that on both the most recent Sunday Night Football and Monday Night Football, absolutely enormous flags were on display -- each covering the better portion of the football field -- and the armed forces were everywhere in the various ceremonies. I never heard the NFL or the media on which the games were broadcast mentioning this obviously new feature, nor have I seen anything like an admission that they were mistaken. But it's obvious they got the message. Whether they will ever recover the fans they lost, God only knows.

    My guess is that media after this election will likewise go to great pretenses to try to show the public that, now, they can be trusted, really! -- but without ever admitting fault.

    But the public will never buy that at this point, not least because the media is what it is, will do what comes naturally to it, and will sting the frog it's riding on.

  22. Voted for Trump and managed to talk my wife out of voting Clinton, which took some doing as she’s from a yellow-dog Democrat family.

    No line here on the west side of Cincinnati (Hamilton County). Neighborhood is maybe 40% black.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    "managed to talk my wife out of voting Clinton"

    If every married male Trump voter did that, what a wonderful world it would be. Well done!
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Voted for Trump and managed to talk my wife out of voting Clinton...
     
    I don't know who mine voted for, but she had to use a provisional ballot today. So I have a few more days to talk her out of it if she did.

    One election, we agreed on how bad Al Franken was, but voted for different opposition candidates. Divide and conquer!
    , @Connecticut Famer
    Congratulations! You must have been very persuasive.
  23. Can anyone recommend a good website for following the election results for people outside the US who don’t have TV coverage? Thanks in advance.

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    • Replies: @Thea
    I'm sure Drudge or Brietbart will show them starting 7 pm eastern time
    , @for-the-record
    I'm in the same position, and over the last few election cycles have found the NYT online returns the most useful:

    http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president
    , @Bill
    Many local US TV stations have live streams. For example, here is a list of NBC stations. I doubt all of them have free live streams, but some do.

    ABC News has a free live stream here.
    CBS News has a free live stream here.

    Here is a CNET article on where to get streams.
    , @DW
    Gatewaypundit
    Conservative treehouse
    , @Celtic Barista
    Slate (very biased to left) has an interesting partnership with VoteCastr to show turnout estimates. That is not necessarily predictive but is interesting. Politico and CBS also have pretty good live updating of results.
    , @jon

    Can anyone recommend a good website for following the election results
     
    DecisionDeskHQ.com was pretty good during the primaries.
  24. @(((Owen)))

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.
     
    Tiny compared to the damage Dubya already did. There's still a chance to pick a credible patriotic candidate in 2020 when She'll be even more unpopular.

    Your patriotic candidate won’t even get out of the starting blocks.

    Hellary will have not only legalized all the illegals already in the U.S. (who’s going to stop her? A Republican congress?) she’ll have allowed millions more in — a much larger proportion of which will be voting in 2020 than this time around.

    Obama outdid Dubya easily (sabotage trumps incompetence). Ratched won’t allow herself to be outdone by the Mulatto.

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    • Replies: @(((Owen)))

    Hellary will have not only legalized all the illegals already in the U.S. (who’s going to stop her? A Republican congress?) she’ll have allowed millions more in — a much larger proportion of which will be voting in 2020 than this time around.
     
    Only citizens can vote. It takes at least a decade for an amnesty to kick in at the polls, so Hillary can't do much about her own re-election. The electoral disaster today, like the illegal immigration problem in general, results from the Reagan amnesty where True Conservative Republicans wanted to create cheap labor and punish working Americans and destroy unions and didn't care about the consequences for the nation.

    Actually, the 1917 absorption of Puerto Rico as full citizens is Trump's biggest challenge today. They've ruined their own territory with mismanagement and half the population has escaped to Florida where they're voting to run it just like they ran Puerto Rico.
    , @anonn
    Have you on the right been able to identify any examples of "illegals voting"? Any at all? Why the focus on something that happens almost never, and likely hasn't ever altered any election's result? If you're mad about immigration changing the nature of the country's electorate, both Hil and Don promise to let in tens of millions of legal immigrants to dilute your vote, overwhelm public services, and undercut your wages.
  25. donut says:
    @DWright
    Voting went smoothly here in Southeastern Michigan.
    One person behind me wanted a ballot to take home to her husband because he wasn't notified by mail. (Guess which ethnic group)

    IDs required, two check points before voting. About all we can hope.

    No ID required at my polling place in Md.

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    • Replies: @NOTA
    MD was never going Republican anyway.
    , @Don't Look at Me
    Hawaii requires ID, but it is solidly democrat so no real effort from the feds to change it.
  26. @Paleo in Northern Virginiastan
    I voted less than an hour after polls opened in Fairfax County, VA with no line at all. My colleagues reported the same thing at their polling places. Let's hope that there's big turnout for The Donald in downstate VA!

    Here in my not Pittsburgh, not Philadelphia city in PA, we got to the polling place about 5 mins before it opened and there was already a 30+ person line. Total wait time was a little over 20 mins. Nobody wearing red, but then again I wasn’t either.

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    • Replies: @27 year old
    Stopped by my polling place again at 8pm (closing time) expecting to see a line still out the door. But there was no line and looking in the windows there was nobody there voting. And the poll workers were packing up. Surprising. We'll see.
  27. ic1000 says:

    Early morning vote in Maryland, purple precinct in a deep blue state. Half-hour line at opening, about typical for a major election. No ID accepted — if you know your name, address, and date of birth then you’re in. This year’s voting machines scan a paper ballot and retain it, so meaningful recounts are possible.

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  28. Dan Hayes says:

    I just voted at noon in Rego Park, Queens County, New York. The poll attendant said it has been very heavy turnout since opening at 6 AM. I don’t know the significance of the heavy turnout. The voting population is predominantly Jewish. The very older ones are perpetual Democrat liberals, but the younger ones may be more for Trump as they are refugees from Soviet socialism. Time will tell!

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  29. It looks like Trump is going to need VA or three of the Great Lakes states (OH, IN, and one other. That was be for me the sweetest way to win anyways (as opposed to cobbling together small states like NH and MB.

    I think he can do it, but Nevada is most likely out of play so he needs a Great Lake state pickup.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    That was be for me the sweetest way to win anyways (as opposed to cobbling together small states like NH and MB.
     
    Er, Manitoba is not a state.
  30. @Desiderius
    Voted for Trump and managed to talk my wife out of voting Clinton, which took some doing as she's from a yellow-dog Democrat family.

    No line here on the west side of Cincinnati (Hamilton County). Neighborhood is maybe 40% black.

    “managed to talk my wife out of voting Clinton”

    If every married male Trump voter did that, what a wonderful world it would be. Well done!

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    My wife voted Hillary (we voted early by mail). She now wishes she had voted for Trump as I did.
    In Austin TX i walked down to the new City Hall in our new downtown just to see. This was around 10:30am and there was a trickle of voters, a waiting time of just a few minutes. No minorities. No ID required.
  31. Not as many people as I expected this (mid) morning. Fairfield County (CT) is a liberal stronghold with lots of big money status-quo types living in 2-3 acre zoning neighborhoods on the one hand and brainwashed minorities on the other. All will vote for Nurse Ratched. One of the two groups will benefit. Take a wild guess which one.

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    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    A great number of good thinkers voted early. That's what smart people do.
  32. JimB says:
    @Anonymous
    Steve, how are you voting on Prop. 60?

    Actually, I don’t give a fig about the porn industry, and the thought of porn actors having to wear wearing safety goggles and nitrile gloves during fallatio is pretty hilarious. However, as a rule with few exceptions, No is the correct vote on all California propositions. They invariably make the sponsors economic winners at the expense of the voters.

    With a ballooning Hispanic renter class, expect a Prop 13 repeal in the next few election cycles. It will cause real estate values to implode as home buyers are forced to fold a hefty property tax into their monthly housing budget. If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners, but leaving them stuck in houses they can’t sell. Eventually, large tracts of single family homes will be bulldozed to build garden apartments.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Actually, I don’t give a fig about the porn industry...
     
    On the retail side, it's the perfect NIMBY issue for pseudolibertarians. Sure, allow it for sale... but not next door to me!

    This is where zoning comes from.
    , @(((Owen)))

    expect a Prop 13 repeal in the next few election cycles. It will cause real estate values to implode as home buyers are forced to fold a hefty property tax into their monthly housing budget. If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners, but leaving them stuck in houses they can’t sell. Eventually, large tracts of single family homes will be bulldozed to build garden apartments.
     
    Gosh I hope so. Alta California as it is is a dystopian nightmare of unaffordable family formation with a small upper crust of millionaires just scraping by. Borrowing policies from Madrid or Mexico City or Buenos Aires about dense city construction, affordable living, rational tax policy, public transit networks, public infrastructure projects, and reducing government corruption would really improve Alta California.

    It's amazing the white Americans managed to screw it up so badly that even they can't afford to live there and that simultaneously foreigners have to take it over for them. Even Latin American governance is better than that. You don't see Mexico welcoming waves of bloody MS-13 illegal immigrant gangsters from El Salvador while their own kids can't buy a home. Working class Mexicans don't have to put off having kids until they're forty because their parents' generation outlawed affordable housing while meanwhile Koreans were moving in with whole apartment complexes where nobody speaks Spanish.
    , @dc.sunsets
    What is a lot of SoCal worth if the water gets cut off?
    , @Lot
    I think a prop 13 repeal would require 2/3 of the vote. Never going to happen. Maybe it could be limited to just primary residence and a second house.
    , @Bill

    If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners,
     
    Isn't that exactly what Prop 13 does now? Property taxes go up when you sell the house, right?
    , @Joe Schmoe



    With a ballooning Hispanic renter class, expect a Prop 13 repeal in the next few election cycles. It will cause real estate values to implode as home buyers are forced to fold a hefty property tax into their monthly housing budget. If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners, but leaving them stuck in houses they can’t sell. Eventually, large tracts of single family homes will be bulldozed to build garden apartments.
     
    High property taxes make renters pay more taxes. Instead of people's mortgage payment being mostly interest to the bank, it is mostly tax to the state. Taxes here in Texas on a $300k house are over $6,000 a year. 2.14% Unlike income taxes, they can't be evaded. The state collects every dime every time. So yes, raising property taxes will crash home values.
  33. Flip says:

    Scott Adams says on his blog that the Democrats may steal the election to “stop Hitler.” He’s been pretty right on things all along.

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  34. Mark F. says:

    Advantage Clinton. Trump needs to run the table on a lot of close states to win. Don’t think he will. I agree he needs either PA, MI or WI.

    Low black turnout (if it happens) could really hurt Clinton.

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  35. Dissident says:
    @keypusher
    Looked like a good turnout in Washington Heights. One vote for Trump, but not many more.

    Washington Heights, Manhattan (NYC) by any chance?

    If so, are you, by any chance, the guy who used to call (“from Washington Heights”) Bob Grant and promote Jared Taylor? “Kevin”, was the name, If I recall correctly.

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  36. DWright says:
    @snorlax
    Which county? How much of a line was there?

    Which county? How much of a line was there?

    Wayne, Downriver. Got out in 45 minutes this morning.

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  37. peterike says:
    @(((Owen)))

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.
     
    Tiny compared to the damage Dubya already did. There's still a chance to pick a credible patriotic candidate in 2020 when She'll be even more unpopular.

    There’s still a chance to pick a credible patriotic candidate in 2020 when She’ll be even more unpopular

    Lol! Like who? Muh Ted Crooze? Please. Just another Goldman Sachs flunky, except he waves around a Bible in one hand and The Constitution in the other to sucker the rubes.

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    >>There’s still a chance to pick a credible patriotic candidate in 2020 when She’ll be even more unpopular<

    Like who? <

    Duncan D. Hunter or Jeff Sessions?
  38. I voted yesterday, at the Minnehaha County courthouse in Sioux Falls. I thought I was cleverly beating the rush by doing so, but as it turned out, my girlfriend and I still had to wait 90 minutes to cast our ballots (for the God-Emperor, of course). I expect turn-out will be very high, at least locally.

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  39. @candid_observer
    I have a hunch that this is going to be an election in which the enthusiasm gap is going to make a measurable dent on the final outcome.

    Even in my very, very blue suburban MA town, I see hardly any Hillary signs. My son lives in one of the few reliably blue counties in Western PA and sees nothing but Trump signs. The turnouts for the events of each campaign seem to favor Trump by an order of magnitude.

    Enthusiasm is the best GOTV mechanism. I doubt that blacks or Hispanics feel it toward Hillary. Working class whites feel it toward Trump like nobody in recent history.

    The open question is what comes of the college educated whites, who favored Romney over Obama, but don't at least appear to do so with Trump over Hillary. On the other hand, there's some decent evidence that college educated whites are exhibiting some real Shy Trump effect:

    “Donald Trump performs consistently better in online polling where a human being is not talking to another human being about what he or she may do in the elections,” [Kellyanne] Conway said. “It’s become socially desirable, especially if you’re a college-educated person in the U.S., to say that you’re against Donald Trump.”

    The POLITICO/Morning Consult study suggests Conway — who didn’t reply to a POLITICO request for an interview on Wednesday — is at least half right. While the overall results found completing the survey online didn’t boost Trump significantly, he did run stronger among more-educated voters.

    In phone interviews, likely voters with a college degree said they support Clinton by a 21-point margin, 60 percent to 39 percent. But online, that margin shrunk to just 7 points, 53 percent to 46 percent.

    Similarly, among likely voters in households earning more than $50,000 annually, Clinton leads by 10 points over the phone, 54 percent to 44 percent. The candidates run neck-and-neck among these voters online, however: 50 percent for Trump, and 49 percent for Clinton.
     
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/poll-shy-voters-trump-230667

    How much might the enthusiasm gap count for? How much might the Shy Trump effect count for?

    God only knows -- at least until later tonight or tomorrow.

    Even in my very, very blue suburban MA town, I see hardly any Hillary signs. My son lives in one of the few reliably blue counties in Western PA and sees nothing but Trump signs.

    Professional campaigns like Hillary’s have abandoned lawn signs. Scientific studies proved that they don’t help produce more votes. That’s why you see lots of Trump signs and almost no Hillary signs.

    some decent evidence that college educated whites are exhibiting some real Shy Trump effect:

    Whenever I mention to my family and friends that Trump would be a fine president and not the next coming of a certain Austrian gentleman, I always get a hard angry disapprobation from one or more of them. Trump is a maniac and evil and no decent person could possibly be considering a vote for that fascist, I am told. Sometimes there is sputtering with anger and actual spittle. It’s no wonder educated patriotic white people have learned to keep their preferences quiet in company.

    I’m a little confused what has a significant number of folks so irrationally het up with hate, but it’s a fact of life now. I don’t expect that it has biased surveys, though. Trump actually underperformed his polls consistently in the primary and automated polls don’t show him doing any better than live caller polls. You’d expect one of those two effects to show up by now if the number of shy Trump voters and the reverse Bradley Effects were large enough to matter.

    334 Hillary-204 Trump is my prediction for tonight.

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    Oh, Predictwise says 88% chance of Hillary, 12% of Trump today. Five Thirty-Eight says 71.4%-28.6%, but is known to be overly optimistic.
  40. In the service, we used to call open threads “Irish pennants”.

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  41. @celt darnell
    What's up?

    The end of the United States if Americans don't vote Trump.

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.

    I wouldn't wish her on North Korea...

    Good luck to you all.

    Notwithstanding my agreement, this is a calumny against Nurse Ratched.

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  42. fnn says:
    @(((Owen)))

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.
     
    Tiny compared to the damage Dubya already did. There's still a chance to pick a credible patriotic candidate in 2020 when She'll be even more unpopular.

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.

    Tiny compared to the damage Dubya already did.

    HRC is the neocon’s neocon. She wants war with Russia.

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    HRC is the neocon’s neocon. She wants war with Russia.
     
    HRC is running to be Dubya's third term.
  43. Anonym says:
    @Opinionator
    Really, its an amazingly good outcome for a presidential candidate who can’t discipline himself to go a week without a self-imposed major embarrassment and who couldn’t be bothered to learn anything about the issues or practice for a debate or organize a ground game for turnout.

    Which makes me wonder why Republicans nominated a guy like that. Oh yeah, I remember: Because the Republican Party is such a treasonous screwup swamp that all sixteen other candidates were clearly and obviously worse.

    Don’t forget to vote.


    Well said.

    Trump’s major screwup was some locker room talk more than a decade before he ran for office. Let he who is without sin…

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  44. Thea says:
    @The King Is a Fink
    Can anyone recommend a good website for following the election results for people outside the US who don't have TV coverage? Thanks in advance.

    I’m sure Drudge or Brietbart will show them starting 7 pm eastern time

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  45. @JimB
    Actually, I don't give a fig about the porn industry, and the thought of porn actors having to wear wearing safety goggles and nitrile gloves during fallatio is pretty hilarious. However, as a rule with few exceptions, No is the correct vote on all California propositions. They invariably make the sponsors economic winners at the expense of the voters.

    With a ballooning Hispanic renter class, expect a Prop 13 repeal in the next few election cycles. It will cause real estate values to implode as home buyers are forced to fold a hefty property tax into their monthly housing budget. If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners, but leaving them stuck in houses they can't sell. Eventually, large tracts of single family homes will be bulldozed to build garden apartments.

    Actually, I don’t give a fig about the porn industry…

    On the retail side, it’s the perfect NIMBY issue for pseudolibertarians. Sure, allow it for sale… but not next door to me!

    This is where zoning comes from.

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  46. @The King Is a Fink
    Can anyone recommend a good website for following the election results for people outside the US who don't have TV coverage? Thanks in advance.

    I’m in the same position, and over the last few election cycles have found the NYT online returns the most useful:

    http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president

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  47. Clyde says:

    Government Workers Now Outnumber Manufacturing Workers by 9,977,000
    Terence P. Jeffrey | November 7, 2016

    The United States lost 9,000 manufacturing jobs in October while gaining 19,000 jobs in government, according to data released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
    Government employment grew from 22,216,000 in September to 22,235,000 in October, according to BLS, while manufacturing jobs dropped from 12,267,000 to 12,258,000.

    The 22,235,000 employed by government in the United States now outnumber the 12,258,000 employed in manufacturing by 9,977,000.
    Over the past year—from October 2015 to October 2016—manufacturing employment fell by 53,000, declining from 12,311,000 to 12,258,000. During the same period, government employment climbed 208,000, rising from 22,027,000 to 22,235,000.

    https://goo.gl/HIn159

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  48. SPMoore8 says:

    Voted in the rural NE on the way to work and it took 5 minutes. Pretty sure that the proliferation of Confederate, Don’t Tread on Me, and Don’t Tread on Me Confederate flags around town means that Hillary won’t get much support here. Talked my wife out of voting for her. I expect Hillary to win but it won’t be the end of the world. American Nationalism is now a “thing”, and so is the appalling corruption of the political class. Many of my relatives in CA are voting for HRC, but none of them are happy about it. Best Regards to all.

    PS: the worst thing about a Hillary presidency — because I guarantee you she has no real agenda except self-enrichment and self-glorification, and and there are enough decent people out there to stifle her — will be having to deal with her face and her voice for 4 years. But I got through 8 years of Obama OK …..

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    She will be the first one to have an actual power since Kennedy. She will do whatever she feels like without anyone put a check on her.

    There is no decent people out there to stifle her - they are all her cronies. At least everyone knows Obama had no real power, but it is a different story for her.
    , @Another Canadian

    PS: the worst thing about a Hillary presidency... will be having to deal with her face and her voice for 4 years.
     
    My wife told me the same thing this morning. So go vote and good luck everyone.
    , @Zach
    And if the economic implosion comes, as Peter Schiff is always predicting, best that it splatters Hillary.
    , @Yak-15
    Her shrill, northern Chicagoan, folk-enhanced diction reminds me of all the scolding teachers I had growing up. I leave the room whenever she is speaking on television.
  49. colm says:
    @(((Owen)))

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.
     
    Tiny compared to the damage Dubya already did. There's still a chance to pick a credible patriotic candidate in 2020 when She'll be even more unpopular.

    There won’t be a 2020 election. There will never be a credible patriotic candidate.

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  50. @Desiderius
    Voted for Trump and managed to talk my wife out of voting Clinton, which took some doing as she's from a yellow-dog Democrat family.

    No line here on the west side of Cincinnati (Hamilton County). Neighborhood is maybe 40% black.

    Voted for Trump and managed to talk my wife out of voting Clinton…

    I don’t know who mine voted for, but she had to use a provisional ballot today. So I have a few more days to talk her out of it if she did.

    One election, we agreed on how bad Al Franken was, but voted for different opposition candidates. Divide and conquer!

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  51. @JimB
    Actually, I don't give a fig about the porn industry, and the thought of porn actors having to wear wearing safety goggles and nitrile gloves during fallatio is pretty hilarious. However, as a rule with few exceptions, No is the correct vote on all California propositions. They invariably make the sponsors economic winners at the expense of the voters.

    With a ballooning Hispanic renter class, expect a Prop 13 repeal in the next few election cycles. It will cause real estate values to implode as home buyers are forced to fold a hefty property tax into their monthly housing budget. If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners, but leaving them stuck in houses they can't sell. Eventually, large tracts of single family homes will be bulldozed to build garden apartments.

    expect a Prop 13 repeal in the next few election cycles. It will cause real estate values to implode as home buyers are forced to fold a hefty property tax into their monthly housing budget. If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners, but leaving them stuck in houses they can’t sell. Eventually, large tracts of single family homes will be bulldozed to build garden apartments.

    Gosh I hope so. Alta California as it is is a dystopian nightmare of unaffordable family formation with a small upper crust of millionaires just scraping by. Borrowing policies from Madrid or Mexico City or Buenos Aires about dense city construction, affordable living, rational tax policy, public transit networks, public infrastructure projects, and reducing government corruption would really improve Alta California.

    It’s amazing the white Americans managed to screw it up so badly that even they can’t afford to live there and that simultaneously foreigners have to take it over for them. Even Latin American governance is better than that. You don’t see Mexico welcoming waves of bloody MS-13 illegal immigrant gangsters from El Salvador while their own kids can’t buy a home. Working class Mexicans don’t have to put off having kids until they’re forty because their parents’ generation outlawed affordable housing while meanwhile Koreans were moving in with whole apartment complexes where nobody speaks Spanish.

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    Argentina, despite being poor, welcomed waves of Paraguayans & Bolivians. The set up squatter camps in the parks once built by Peron. BA is becoming Calcutta.
    , @Almost Missouri

    "You don’t see Mexico welcoming waves of bloody MS-13 illegal immigrant gangsters from El Salvador while their own kids can’t buy a home."
     
    Yeah, but their kids weren't the Boomers. The "Greatest" generation saw what they had spawned, couldn't undo it, so just decided to price them out and enjoy the decline.
  52. @Sam Haysom
    It looks like Trump is going to need VA or three of the Great Lakes states (OH, IN, and one other. That was be for me the sweetest way to win anyways (as opposed to cobbling together small states like NH and MB.

    I think he can do it, but Nevada is most likely out of play so he needs a Great Lake state pickup.

    That was be for me the sweetest way to win anyways (as opposed to cobbling together small states like NH and MB.

    Er, Manitoba is not a state.

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    Was supposed to be NV.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Sure it is. It's one of the 57 states BHO talked about. Are you saying he was wrong? That would be Raaaaacist.
    , @Orthodox
    But Manitoba would likely vote for Trump. A good reason to revisit the idea of invading Canada and taking the oil producing provinces.
  53. Clyde says:

    LA Times/USC Final Poll: Trump +3
    The USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times “Daybreak” poll tracks about 3,000 eligible voters until election day, asking on a regular basis about their support for Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump or other candidates as well as their likelihood of actually casting a ballot. http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

    Plus Hillary is not the electoral college lock she was a few weeks ago.

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  54. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Cast my vote for the fuhrer here in Manhattan. Felt like I was robbing a bank.

    Thanks for a fantastic year of coverage Steve.

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  55. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Early morning vote in a gentrifying Chicago neighborhood. Line was about 40 people, zero of whom were Hispanic (compared to about a third of the neighborhood). Now all of those people voted for Clinton, but maybe this reveals something about the tidal wave I keep hearing so much about

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  56. Ok, Steve and other fellow-Sailerites, don’t be shy; errāre hūmānum est.

    What is gonna be?

    Are we going to have America with a suffix , or the dreaded and literal prefix is our eternal destiny;

    Co-Country or Country-Co. ?

    Bored identity says @ November 8, 1;04 EST :

    “Trump WILL BE the 45th, with election being disputed in at least one state.”

    Your turn.

    http://www.arewethere.yt/NO-CO-COUNTRY-FOR-OLD-MAN/53992.htm

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  57. @reiner Tor
    Guys, remember: the stakes have never been higher. Not only does the fate of Western Civilization depend on your vote, but also the fate of my bet for The Donald on Paddy Power. Please, vote accordingly.

    Not only does the fate of Western Civilization depend on your vote, but also the fate of my bet for The Donald on Paddy Power. Please, vote accordingly.

    Yeah, vote for Trump, and do a brother a favor! I got money riding on this thing too.

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  58. colm says:
    @(((Owen)))

    In order of swing-state poll closing times for easy election night reference,

    5pm
    VA: Hillary
    NH: Hillary
    5:30
    NC: Hillary
    OH: Trump
    6pm
    ME: Hillary
    PA: Hillary
    FL: Hillary
    7pm
    MI: Hillary
    WI: Hillary
    MN: Hillary
    CO: Hillary
    AZ: Hillary
    8pm
    IA: Trump
    UT: Trump
    NV: Hillary

    Electoral College: 334 Hillary – 204 Trump
     
    I put up my final forecast a week ago and I'm still happy with it. Things have tightened in NC and AZ and I'd now predict that AZ will go Trump and NC is 50/50, if it weren't too late to change. My new total would be 308-230, if I were updating based on today's polls.

    But I put up my final prediction a week ago and it's set in stone: 334-204. Really, its an amazingly good outcome for a presidential candidate who can't discipline himself to go a week without a self-imposed major embarrassment and who couldn't be bothered to learn anything about the issues or practice for a debate or organize a ground game for turnout.

    Which makes me wonder why Republicans nominated a guy like that. Oh yeah, I remember: Because the Republican Party is such a treasonous screwup swamp that all sixteen other candidates were clearly and obviously worse.

    Don't forget to vote.

    You would rather be right than maintain western civilization.

    President Huma Abedin will not keep Western Civilization – she will tell everyone to bow five times to Mecca’s direction soon.

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  59. @(((Owen)))

    Even in my very, very blue suburban MA town, I see hardly any Hillary signs. My son lives in one of the few reliably blue counties in Western PA and sees nothing but Trump signs.
     
    Professional campaigns like Hillary's have abandoned lawn signs. Scientific studies proved that they don't help produce more votes. That's why you see lots of Trump signs and almost no Hillary signs.

    some decent evidence that college educated whites are exhibiting some real Shy Trump effect:
     
    Whenever I mention to my family and friends that Trump would be a fine president and not the next coming of a certain Austrian gentleman, I always get a hard angry disapprobation from one or more of them. Trump is a maniac and evil and no decent person could possibly be considering a vote for that fascist, I am told. Sometimes there is sputtering with anger and actual spittle. It's no wonder educated patriotic white people have learned to keep their preferences quiet in company.

    I'm a little confused what has a significant number of folks so irrationally het up with hate, but it's a fact of life now. I don't expect that it has biased surveys, though. Trump actually underperformed his polls consistently in the primary and automated polls don't show him doing any better than live caller polls. You'd expect one of those two effects to show up by now if the number of shy Trump voters and the reverse Bradley Effects were large enough to matter.

    334 Hillary-204 Trump is my prediction for tonight.

    Oh, Predictwise says 88% chance of Hillary, 12% of Trump today. Five Thirty-Eight says 71.4%-28.6%, but is known to be overly optimistic.

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  60. Voted in Maryland this morning. Two fairly big lines, and about a 1/2 hour wait, as we’re back to paper ballots which are then scanned. Not sure how much difference my vote will make in our overwhelmingly Democratic state, but we shall see.

    No ID – mine indignantly rejected – perish the thought! But they do ask for your address.

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  61. @Patrick in SC
    Just a couple of quick thoughts:

    1. I think the sudden skyrocketing of Obamacare premiums, combined with the last minute email stuff, has driven the undecided herd in Trump's direction. Trump has behaved himself these last few weeks and perhaps the biggest applause line at his speeches has been when he promises to repeal Obamacare.

    2. You get absolutely no hint of this from the mainstream media, who have outdone themselves in over-the-top, beyond parody bias. It is simply inconceivable to them to publish an "analysis" which says, "Skyrocketing Obamacare premiums fueling last minute surge for Trump." I'm not saying this is 100% percent true, but if they were even slightly neutral you could certainly create somewhat speculative analysis like that. Instead, all we get is the same well-worn cue cards: "Year of the Women!" "Critical Hispanic Voters!" "Crucial support of Millennials."

    I think the sudden skyrocketing of Obamacare premiums, combined with the last minute email stuff, has driven the undecided herd in Trump’s direction.

    Or at least in Jill Stein’s or Gary Johnson’s or the living room couch. Which is almost as good.

    I’ve always thought it hopeless to get blacks to vote Republican, but quite feasible to get many of them to stop voting Democratic. Worked for James Hahn. (Yes, I know the ballot was “non-partisan”.)

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    Shaq and Dave Chappelle have endorsed Trump, and here in Detroit I saw a sign: "Hillary used a hammer, but Kwame got the slammer?????"
  62. ken says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn't feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won't have to.

    What law firm do you work for?

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  63. I attended a board meeting this morning at 8 a.m. Two of my fellow directors had already voted (polls opened at 7 a.m.) and reported that they had to wait in line for the doors to open.

    Our meeting ended at a little after half past ten. I drove to my precinct to vote, and was there by 10:45; the parking lot was busy, and although I didn’t have to wait, I noted that according to posted information almost 500 people had already voted out of about 2000 expected. Polls don’t close until 8 p.m. I expect turn-out will be heavier than usual in our small town.

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  64. colm says:
    @SPMoore8
    Voted in the rural NE on the way to work and it took 5 minutes. Pretty sure that the proliferation of Confederate, Don't Tread on Me, and Don't Tread on Me Confederate flags around town means that Hillary won't get much support here. Talked my wife out of voting for her. I expect Hillary to win but it won't be the end of the world. American Nationalism is now a "thing", and so is the appalling corruption of the political class. Many of my relatives in CA are voting for HRC, but none of them are happy about it. Best Regards to all.

    PS: the worst thing about a Hillary presidency -- because I guarantee you she has no real agenda except self-enrichment and self-glorification, and and there are enough decent people out there to stifle her -- will be having to deal with her face and her voice for 4 years. But I got through 8 years of Obama OK .....

    She will be the first one to have an actual power since Kennedy. She will do whatever she feels like without anyone put a check on her.

    There is no decent people out there to stifle her – they are all her cronies. At least everyone knows Obama had no real power, but it is a different story for her.

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  65. @celt darnell
    What's up?

    The end of the United States if Americans don't vote Trump.

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.

    I wouldn't wish her on North Korea...

    Good luck to you all.

    Nurse Ratched?

    Why isn’t my Margaret Hamilton meme catching on?

    “Well, my pretty, I can cause accidents, too!

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  66. @Tiny Duck
    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn't feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won't have to.

    You go, grrrlll!

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  67. @celt darnell
    Your patriotic candidate won't even get out of the starting blocks.

    Hellary will have not only legalized all the illegals already in the U.S. (who's going to stop her? A Republican congress?) she'll have allowed millions more in -- a much larger proportion of which will be voting in 2020 than this time around.

    Obama outdid Dubya easily (sabotage trumps incompetence). Ratched won't allow herself to be outdone by the Mulatto.

    Hellary will have not only legalized all the illegals already in the U.S. (who’s going to stop her? A Republican congress?) she’ll have allowed millions more in — a much larger proportion of which will be voting in 2020 than this time around.

    Only citizens can vote. It takes at least a decade for an amnesty to kick in at the polls, so Hillary can’t do much about her own re-election. The electoral disaster today, like the illegal immigration problem in general, results from the Reagan amnesty where True Conservative Republicans wanted to create cheap labor and punish working Americans and destroy unions and didn’t care about the consequences for the nation.

    Actually, the 1917 absorption of Puerto Rico as full citizens is Trump’s biggest challenge today. They’ve ruined their own territory with mismanagement and half the population has escaped to Florida where they’re voting to run it just like they ran Puerto Rico.

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    • Replies: @Federalist
    "Only citizens can vote." No. Only citizens can vote legally.

    It is true that demographic replacement/electing a new people started before Obama or Hillary. But the point is that if Hillary is elected it will get even worse. If the Republicans keep the Senate and the House, they will continue to lack either the will or the means or both to do anything about it.
  68. Anon87 says:

    Biggest line ever in my blue state today. Obama’s first didn’t bring out these crowds, so I don’t know if this is silent majority coming out or girl power.

    Did the hispanic vote finally show up as sone are claiming in Fl?

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  69. @Patrick in SC
    Just a couple of quick thoughts:

    1. I think the sudden skyrocketing of Obamacare premiums, combined with the last minute email stuff, has driven the undecided herd in Trump's direction. Trump has behaved himself these last few weeks and perhaps the biggest applause line at his speeches has been when he promises to repeal Obamacare.

    2. You get absolutely no hint of this from the mainstream media, who have outdone themselves in over-the-top, beyond parody bias. It is simply inconceivable to them to publish an "analysis" which says, "Skyrocketing Obamacare premiums fueling last minute surge for Trump." I'm not saying this is 100% percent true, but if they were even slightly neutral you could certainly create somewhat speculative analysis like that. Instead, all we get is the same well-worn cue cards: "Year of the Women!" "Critical Hispanic Voters!" "Crucial support of Millennials."

    I think that the media is going to experience a reckoning after this election, no matter who wins.

    Between the exposures of WikiLeaks and the media’s own egregious behavior in this election, the media will enter a period of widespread deep distrust far beyond anything in the past.

    Of course, from their megaphone they will declare that nothing they did was out of order — which will, of course, only further erode public trust.

    It’s going to be the economic consequences that will hit them and make them at least pretend to change their tune. I see a rise of a Breitbart inspired media to counter them, and take over a good portion of their audience.

    The situation reminds me a bit of the current one in the NFL. NFL viewership has been way down since the idiot Kaepernick decided he didn’t much like this country because of its poor treatment of The Gentle Giant. The NFL and the media of course did everything at first to encourage him and highlight him. And the NFL and the media have since been emphatic that Kaepernick had nothing to do with the decline — because they can never actually be wrong.

    But one couldn’t help but notice that on both the most recent Sunday Night Football and Monday Night Football, absolutely enormous flags were on display — each covering the better portion of the football field — and the armed forces were everywhere in the various ceremonies. I never heard the NFL or the media on which the games were broadcast mentioning this obviously new feature, nor have I seen anything like an admission that they were mistaken. But it’s obvious they got the message. Whether they will ever recover the fans they lost, God only knows.

    My guess is that media after this election will likewise go to great pretenses to try to show the public that, now, they can be trusted, really! — but without ever admitting fault.

    But the public will never buy that at this point, not least because the media is what it is, will do what comes naturally to it, and will sting the frog it’s riding on.

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  70. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “Top Trump Ally Roger Stone: Trump “Has Run One Of The Worst Campaigns In Modern Political History” In Nevada”

    http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/11/08/top-trump-ally-roger-stone-trump-has-run-one-worst-campaigns-modern-political-history-nevada/214383

    ROGER STONE: Nevada I think is problematic. Frankly Trump has run one of the worst campaigns in modern political history in the state and the crew there is really left over from the primary, these old Americans for Prosperity folks. Nice people just don’t argue about politics and actual getting elected. So I’m disappointed with the campaign there. On the other hand if we have a tide, even Nevada could sweep for Trump.

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  71. Sammler says: • Website

    Voted just before 7 am (in NY exurbs, so just going through the motions). Polling place was definitely busier than 2012; people had trouble parking even that early.

    Did you know the Spanish for “vote” is “vote”?

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    Spanish vote is the formal (corresponding to usted) imperative of the verb votar: (you) vote! As a noun, vote is voto.
  72. Sammler says: • Website
    @ic1000
    Early morning vote in Maryland, purple precinct in a deep blue state. Half-hour line at opening, about typical for a major election. No ID accepted -- if you know your name, address, and date of birth then you're in. This year's voting machines scan a paper ballot and retain it, so meaningful recounts are possible.

    NY has the same mechanism

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  73. Jack D says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn't feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won't have to.

    Could the President be white if he was gay or tranny? Caitlyn Jenner for President!

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    • Replies: @Bill
    James O'Meara is a white gay nazi tranny. Does that somehow cancel out, do you think?
    , @NOTA
    Rachel Doezal would make a great running mate for Kaitlin Jenner.
  74. 22pp22 says:

    American friends!

    Save us!

    Vote Trump!

    The chances of victory are slim, but this is the last roll of the dice.

    Warmest wishes from Cyprus.

    Also, I’m only 70 miles from Syria. I dread to think of the chaos the psycho bitch will unleash.

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  75. I love the smell of burned moneyballer’s overcomb in the early afternoon:

    “Undecideds are MUCH higher than normal. So risk of a polling error — in either direction — is higher than usual.”

    “Undecideeeds” It’s called Monster Vote, “Stupid” !

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  76. The Z Blog says: • Website

    I passed my polling place in the morning and saw a huge line. It looked like a job site, as it was all tradesmen. I came back at 10:00 AM assuming it would be slow. Took two hours to vote. I was thinking that the derelict vote was coming out strong for the government party. It turned out to be the Bernie Bros. I really didn’t think we had that many of them, but there they were. Boy do they hold a grudge. My guess is they are voting for Stein or a write in. They were quite vocal about not voting Clinton.

    My state is safe Democrat so I’m a bit surprised by the heavy turnout. No other races on the ballot worth noting. Others have said they had long waits as well. Maybe the Bernie people think it is safe to vote against Clinton here so this is their final protest. I doubt it is a Trump issue. Obama carried this state with 60% and my slice of the ghetto probably went 75% Obama. No a lot of blacks in line so who knows.

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  77. Many people on fb today crowing about voting and being “with her” and all that crap. I only know two people that voted for Trump and they are keeping it largely to themselves. My sample is of course super heavily biased (almost all academics/liberals/immigrants) but still it is a real downer.

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  78. hhsiii says:
    @Paleo in Northern Virginiastan
    I voted less than an hour after polls opened in Fairfax County, VA with no line at all. My colleagues reported the same thing at their polling places. Let's hope that there's big turnout for The Donald in downstate VA!

    My wife took our 7-year-old daughter at 6:00 a.m. It was my wife’s first at age 34, since she moved here at 18 from Latvia and just became a citizen last year. It took her 50 minutes. I went at 8:00 and took over an hour. This is on the Upper East Side in NYC. I’ve never seen lines like this here. It never took me longer than 10 minutes in over 30 years of voting here. My first presidential vote was in ’84 in North Carolina. My vote would be more consequential there I imagine. Nine judges on the ballot for 9 slots. All Dems. I just wrote in a bunch of names. Although I don’t know if Steve qualifies. Or if elected would serve.

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    How much does a New York judgeship pay?
    , @slumber_j
    Yeah, there were very long lines on the UES first thing this morning. But then when I went to my polling place (Robt. Wagner Middle School, 75th bet. Lex. & Third) a little before 2pm, there was no line whatsoever: I waltzed out of there in 10 minutes.

    Last time, there were tremendous lines literally all day long. I don't know whether this means some HRC voters stayed home or not.
    , @PV van der Byl
    I vote on 75th Street between 3rd and 2nd. It was crowded before 9am but the lines shortened significantly after that.

    The waiting times at the same place in 2012 were far longer.
  79. This was a very interesting election year (or two) from an iSteve perspective. I’m hoping for the best, but the odds of Trump winning look long. :(

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  80. @SPMoore8
    Voted in the rural NE on the way to work and it took 5 minutes. Pretty sure that the proliferation of Confederate, Don't Tread on Me, and Don't Tread on Me Confederate flags around town means that Hillary won't get much support here. Talked my wife out of voting for her. I expect Hillary to win but it won't be the end of the world. American Nationalism is now a "thing", and so is the appalling corruption of the political class. Many of my relatives in CA are voting for HRC, but none of them are happy about it. Best Regards to all.

    PS: the worst thing about a Hillary presidency -- because I guarantee you she has no real agenda except self-enrichment and self-glorification, and and there are enough decent people out there to stifle her -- will be having to deal with her face and her voice for 4 years. But I got through 8 years of Obama OK .....

    PS: the worst thing about a Hillary presidency… will be having to deal with her face and her voice for 4 years.

    My wife told me the same thing this morning. So go vote and good luck everyone.

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  81. Steve,

    Did you make a prediction? I missed it if you did. I think you had Romney losing in ’12.

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  82. ThePrince says:
    @(((Owen)))

    In order of swing-state poll closing times for easy election night reference,

    5pm
    VA: Hillary
    NH: Hillary
    5:30
    NC: Hillary
    OH: Trump
    6pm
    ME: Hillary
    PA: Hillary
    FL: Hillary
    7pm
    MI: Hillary
    WI: Hillary
    MN: Hillary
    CO: Hillary
    AZ: Hillary
    8pm
    IA: Trump
    UT: Trump
    NV: Hillary

    Electoral College: 334 Hillary – 204 Trump
     
    I put up my final forecast a week ago and I'm still happy with it. Things have tightened in NC and AZ and I'd now predict that AZ will go Trump and NC is 50/50, if it weren't too late to change. My new total would be 308-230, if I were updating based on today's polls.

    But I put up my final prediction a week ago and it's set in stone: 334-204. Really, its an amazingly good outcome for a presidential candidate who can't discipline himself to go a week without a self-imposed major embarrassment and who couldn't be bothered to learn anything about the issues or practice for a debate or organize a ground game for turnout.

    Which makes me wonder why Republicans nominated a guy like that. Oh yeah, I remember: Because the Republican Party is such a treasonous screwup swamp that all sixteen other candidates were clearly and obviously worse.

    Don't forget to vote.

    LOL!!

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  83. DWB says: • Website

    I voted on my way to work in my central San Francisco precinct (we live three blocks from the Castro Theatre). As you might guess, my precinct would vote in the same, predictable way no matter the year, the candidates, the situation.

    For what it’s worth, the garage I voted in (yes – in California, polling stations can be in some guy’s garage) had enough people waiting in line, that many were filling out their paper ballots sitting on the sidewalk.

    Our state is surely going to go, overwhelmingly, to Hillary Clinton, but with no great enthusiasm. Most of the houses in our area who have signs in their windows (there are no “yards” to put signs in) have Bernie Sanders.

    Since California has essentially imported an autocratic, one-party supporting electorate over the past 40 or so years, the only real action is in the propositions.

    SF joined in the “fun” this year with two propositions that would (1) allow 16 year olds to vote in municipal elections, and (2) allow non-citizens to vote in local school elections (really).

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  84. @anon
    Donald Trump's implicit endorsement of Eric Trump's call for David Duke to take a "bullet to the head" was too much for me. I am staying home today.

    to take a “bullet to the head”

    Bad idea. Bullets belong in the text, not in the head:

    http://fsymbols.com/signs/bullet-point/

    Duke would of course prefer a white bullet, so that’s what I used.
    •Tiny would use a black one.
    ⁌Or a leftward one.
    ⁍I, of course, prefer rightward.
    ‣Hillary, like her husband, would triangulate.

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  85. Tulip says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn't feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won't have to.

    Good to see another American has overcome racial bias.

    I don’t see how America will ever be tolerant and inclusive unless we exclude people based on immutable characteristics from holding political office.

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  86. Georgina says:
    @Paleo in Northern Virginiastan
    I voted less than an hour after polls opened in Fairfax County, VA with no line at all. My colleagues reported the same thing at their polling places. Let's hope that there's big turnout for The Donald in downstate VA!

    Had the same experience voting in Fairfax County, VA. Got in and out in less than five minutes. Four years ago, the line at the same voting location (and same time of day) was two blocks long and it took over an hour to vote. My congressional district voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004, Obama in 2008 and 2012.

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  87. @Reg Cæsar

    That was be for me the sweetest way to win anyways (as opposed to cobbling together small states like NH and MB.
     
    Er, Manitoba is not a state.

    Was supposed to be NV.

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  88. snorlax says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn't feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won't have to.

    Weren’t you straight mere weeks ago?

    C’mon man, don’t start slipping on us.

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    How am I a troll, son?
    , @Mark Eugenikos
    It depends on the source from which he (she? xe?) is copying the content.
    , @415 reasons
    The term partner can be used by straight people. So please check your privilege, shitlord.
  89. Marcus says:

    FWIW since we have “jungle primary” local candidates here both R and D are using David Duke (he’s trying another hopeless campaign) to their advantage, just as Hillary did.

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  90. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous Nephew
    "managed to talk my wife out of voting Clinton"

    If every married male Trump voter did that, what a wonderful world it would be. Well done!

    My wife voted Hillary (we voted early by mail). She now wishes she had voted for Trump as I did.
    In Austin TX i walked down to the new City Hall in our new downtown just to see. This was around 10:30am and there was a trickle of voters, a waiting time of just a few minutes. No minorities. No ID required.

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    • Replies: @ATX Hipster
    I'm curious what her reasoning was if she changed her mind after the fact.
  91. @JimB
    Actually, I don't give a fig about the porn industry, and the thought of porn actors having to wear wearing safety goggles and nitrile gloves during fallatio is pretty hilarious. However, as a rule with few exceptions, No is the correct vote on all California propositions. They invariably make the sponsors economic winners at the expense of the voters.

    With a ballooning Hispanic renter class, expect a Prop 13 repeal in the next few election cycles. It will cause real estate values to implode as home buyers are forced to fold a hefty property tax into their monthly housing budget. If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners, but leaving them stuck in houses they can't sell. Eventually, large tracts of single family homes will be bulldozed to build garden apartments.

    What is a lot of SoCal worth if the water gets cut off?

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  92. Barnard says:
    @DWright
    Voting went smoothly here in Southeastern Michigan.
    One person behind me wanted a ballot to take home to her husband because he wasn't notified by mail. (Guess which ethnic group)

    IDs required, two check points before voting. About all we can hope.

    (Guess which ethnic group)

    Dutch? German?

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  93. @Tiny Duck
    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn't feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won't have to.

    While I don’t have any doubts on how are you paying tribute to Hillary’s laminated poster on daily basis, don’t you think that calling an inflatable doll a partner is far too creepy even for you, Tiny D?

    When Trump wins we’ll hook-up your beta weakling with some good ol’ trashy Vladivostok galls; just to show you how Donald is quite Reasonable-in-Chief when it comes to immigration issues.

    Now, please go and change the wig on your …significant other.

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  94. fish says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn't feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won't have to.

    Oh Tiny….you keep looking for it…..it’s down there somewhere. Maybe your “partner” can help you?

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  95. I voted this morning. When I went to get my ballot, I was greeted by two Indians with very thick accents who clearly spoke English as a second language. Is this really the best we can do?

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  96. Mark Caplan says: • Website

    Pennsylvania has no early voting and limited absentee voting. If the election outcome there roughly matches the polls, then the “shy Trump voter theory” is a myth. Adios, America.

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    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    Chill down. We'll know all the official election results tomorrow morning at the latest. There's no way to know the results earlier, since most of the methods used suffer from the exact same or similar problems to that of the earlier polls.

    I've already planned what I'd do if Hillary wins, and what if Trump wins. (Both involve some alcohol.) My elbow injury is getting better, in a couple weeks I'll be able to get back lifting some weights, and then I'll feel better anyway.
    , @Mikey Darmody
    Really, you just said, "If the Shy Trump Voter Theory is a myth, then the Shy Trump Voter Theory is a myth". You are a jabroni.
  97. @Tiny Duck
    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn't feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won't have to.

    While I don’t have any doubts on how are you paying tribute to Hillary’s laminated poster on daily basis, don’t you think that calling an inflatable doll a partner is far too creepy even for you, Tiny D?

    When Trump wins we’ll hook-up your beta weakling with some good ol’ trashy Vladivostok galls; just to show you how Donald is quite Reasonable-in-Chief when it comes to immigration issues.

    Now, please go and change the wig on your …significant other.

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  98. Moshe says:

    I don’t care who you vote for so long as you don’t vote.

    j/k, I don’t care :)

    I do have money and a whiter future on Trump but, yeah, I pretend to care sometimes because it’s fun but ultimately who cares?

    Then again, I do have money on Trump and would love to hear the woeful moans of the media tomorrow so go out and vote suckas!

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  99. anonn says:
    @celt darnell
    Your patriotic candidate won't even get out of the starting blocks.

    Hellary will have not only legalized all the illegals already in the U.S. (who's going to stop her? A Republican congress?) she'll have allowed millions more in -- a much larger proportion of which will be voting in 2020 than this time around.

    Obama outdid Dubya easily (sabotage trumps incompetence). Ratched won't allow herself to be outdone by the Mulatto.

    Have you on the right been able to identify any examples of “illegals voting”? Any at all? Why the focus on something that happens almost never, and likely hasn’t ever altered any election’s result? If you’re mad about immigration changing the nature of the country’s electorate, both Hil and Don promise to let in tens of millions of legal immigrants to dilute your vote, overwhelm public services, and undercut your wages.

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    • Replies: @celt darnell
    Actually voter fraud by illegals has been documented.

    And, in any case, I consider anchor babies illegals, too.

    As for legal immigration, I'm well aware of the issues there, thanks.

    If you think, however, there'll be as many migrants coming into the United States under Donald Trump as there will be under Hillary Clinton, you're either ignorant or dishonest. Take your choice.
  100. Michaeloh says:
    @celt darnell
    What's up?

    The end of the United States if Americans don't vote Trump.

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.

    I wouldn't wish her on North Korea...

    Good luck to you all.

    Nah. Nothing could be more favorable to the formation of a populist/nationalist/white racial awakening than 4-8 more years of open borders, section 8 racists coming to your hood, BLM, Django Unchained, racial discrimination vs whites in employment and education aka Affirmative Action and disparate impact, judicial Furhrer Directives, Obamacare, decreasing wages and increasing housing costs, etc. Call it the Hate Whitey Mindf*ck and nobody hates whitey like the Democrats. Eventually even naive weaklings like Ryan will wake up. It is, unfortunately, the only way white people learn.

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    • Replies: @celt darnell
    Well, I'd love to see you proved right.

    That said, I'd prefer a Trump victory.
  101. J.Ross says: • Website

    The vote-receiving machine at my polling place was proctored by a nice volunteer mom who had no idea what was happening. It spat out two ballots ahead of me, but swallowed both of mine, without doing the partial regurgitation to scan the other side of the first sheet. I have asked in previous elections to check that it went through and been told there is no way to do that. I didn’t bother the nice volunteer mom who clearly was just there to help the elderly. Supposedly Soros works his magic at the actual totalling, far from the polling stations. We will absolutely have third world problems if Clinton tries to steal it.
    I trust that if anything is irregular, aggressively litigious Trump in 2016 will not be like Alpha Al and Dolchstoss Joe in 2000.
    I have been hearing whispers in the palace to the effect that Hillary Clinton is determined to start a war with Russia. She has a retarded plan that depends on Russia losing all its airstrips in the first hour — thus, for this plan to work, Russia needs to lack rocketry or large areas of flat undeveloped land — and she confidently dismisses everyone who tries to explain to her why this is not a “plan.”

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  102. @Tiny Duck
    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn't feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won't have to.

    That was your most perfect comment ever!

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  103. PA Polka says:

    Arrived at the polling place at 11 am. The line was twice as long as I’ve ever seen. Waited one hour to vote. At 1 pm a poll worker told me they had a record turnout.

    I live in an outlying Philly suburb that swings reliably red but has recently begun to diversify. Most of the men and about half of the women I know support Trump. I’ve done all I could to talk him up during the campaign season. Now, all I can do is pray.

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  104. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    I think the sudden skyrocketing of Obamacare premiums, combined with the last minute email stuff, has driven the undecided herd in Trump’s direction.
     
    Or at least in Jill Stein's or Gary Johnson's or the living room couch. Which is almost as good.

    I've always thought it hopeless to get blacks to vote Republican, but quite feasible to get many of them to stop voting Democratic. Worked for James Hahn. (Yes, I know the ballot was "non-partisan".)

    Shaq and Dave Chappelle have endorsed Trump, and here in Detroit I saw a sign: “Hillary used a hammer, but Kwame got the slammer?????”

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  105. @Reg Cæsar

    That was be for me the sweetest way to win anyways (as opposed to cobbling together small states like NH and MB.
     
    Er, Manitoba is not a state.

    Sure it is. It’s one of the 57 states BHO talked about. Are you saying he was wrong? That would be Raaaaacist.

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  106. Billboards of the past or your children’s regular present?

    https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/vota.jpg?w=1024&h=768

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    • Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/vota.jpg?w=1024&h=768

    The verb "to vote" is "votar", and the imperative form is "!vote!", not "!vota!". Right?
  107. @donut
    No ID required at my polling place in Md.

    Hawaii requires ID, but it is solidly democrat so no real effort from the feds to change it.

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  108. @Mark Caplan
    Pennsylvania has no early voting and limited absentee voting. If the election outcome there roughly matches the polls, then the "shy Trump voter theory" is a myth. Adios, America.

    Chill down. We’ll know all the official election results tomorrow morning at the latest. There’s no way to know the results earlier, since most of the methods used suffer from the exact same or similar problems to that of the earlier polls.

    I’ve already planned what I’d do if Hillary wins, and what if Trump wins. (Both involve some alcohol.) My elbow injury is getting better, in a couple weeks I’ll be able to get back lifting some weights, and then I’ll feel better anyway.

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  109. @Desiderius
    Voted for Trump and managed to talk my wife out of voting Clinton, which took some doing as she's from a yellow-dog Democrat family.

    No line here on the west side of Cincinnati (Hamilton County). Neighborhood is maybe 40% black.

    Congratulations! You must have been very persuasive.

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  110. Lot says:
    @JimB
    Actually, I don't give a fig about the porn industry, and the thought of porn actors having to wear wearing safety goggles and nitrile gloves during fallatio is pretty hilarious. However, as a rule with few exceptions, No is the correct vote on all California propositions. They invariably make the sponsors economic winners at the expense of the voters.

    With a ballooning Hispanic renter class, expect a Prop 13 repeal in the next few election cycles. It will cause real estate values to implode as home buyers are forced to fold a hefty property tax into their monthly housing budget. If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners, but leaving them stuck in houses they can't sell. Eventually, large tracts of single family homes will be bulldozed to build garden apartments.

    I think a prop 13 repeal would require 2/3 of the vote. Never going to happen. Maybe it could be limited to just primary residence and a second house.

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  111. Kylie says:

    I voted for Trump.

    I live in a small, mostly white conservative town in a rural county. The polling place is literally like something out of Norman Rockwell.

    Until 2008, I never voted because I don’t approve of women having the franchise. But in 2008 and 2012, I voted against Obama.

    Today I voted for Trump. It felt really good.

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  112. Zach says:
    @SPMoore8
    Voted in the rural NE on the way to work and it took 5 minutes. Pretty sure that the proliferation of Confederate, Don't Tread on Me, and Don't Tread on Me Confederate flags around town means that Hillary won't get much support here. Talked my wife out of voting for her. I expect Hillary to win but it won't be the end of the world. American Nationalism is now a "thing", and so is the appalling corruption of the political class. Many of my relatives in CA are voting for HRC, but none of them are happy about it. Best Regards to all.

    PS: the worst thing about a Hillary presidency -- because I guarantee you she has no real agenda except self-enrichment and self-glorification, and and there are enough decent people out there to stifle her -- will be having to deal with her face and her voice for 4 years. But I got through 8 years of Obama OK .....

    And if the economic implosion comes, as Peter Schiff is always predicting, best that it splatters Hillary.

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  113. Tiny Duck says:

    http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html

    Not looking good for you guys at all!

    Prediction: Clinton 308, Trump 230. National vote Clinton +4

    When Clinton wins I’m wondering what lame excuses we’ll hear from the Republican Party at the end of the week for Chump’s loss.

    1. Voter Fraud?

    2. Wasn’t conservative enough?

    Whatever the excuse, I’m sure it will be eye rolling hilarious.

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    • Replies: @William Zane
    You feel smart now?
    , @celt darnell
    How's it going where you're at, Tiny Dick?

    Don't let the door hit your feathered ass on the way out now.

    , @Unladen Swallow
    You take your imaginary poll, I will take the real election results. How will the Mainstream Media, Hollywood celebrities, the Pollsters, and Tiny Duck explain how Hillary LOST. I was actually checking polling stations for voting data this afternoon and the turnout was huge, which is why I knew Trump would win the battleground states because I happen to live in one.

    Steve and the regular posters here have tried in vain to correct your moronic worldview with data and reason, but you have steadfastly refused to listen. However, do you know the most amazing thing about this website is Duck? Is was Steve who largely developed the strategy that President-Elect Trump used to crush you and your anti-anglocisherteropatriarchy allies this fall, chew on that tonight and for the next four years.

  114. JoetheHun says:
    @Almost Missouri
    Notwithstanding my agreement, this is a calumny against Nurse Ratched.

    Nurse Ratched meant well.

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  115. snorlax says:

    https://news.vice.com/story/live-election-day-turnout-results-with-votecastry

    Take these numbers with the appropriate heaping of salt, but this company VoteCastr is estimating the current election results based on a database of demographic data on the voters who’ve turned out so far.

    Looks bad for Trump, but it should be noted that Republicans tend to do poorly until 5 PM (they’re at work), and VoteCastr’s demographic model is based on the polls, so if there is a “shy Trump” effect, they’re underestimating him.

    The Florida numbers also don’t include the panhandle yet.

    Colorado
    Clinton 47 (+5)
    Trump 42
    72.2% of projected turnout

    Florida
    Clinton 49 (+4)
    Trump 45
    74.9% of projected turnout

    Iowa
    Clinton 45
    Trump 46 (+1)
    55.9% of projected turnout

    Nevada
    Clinton 47 (+3)
    Trump 44
    58.7% of projected turnout

    New Hampshire
    Clinton 47 (+4)
    Trump 43
    44.0% of projected turnout

    Ohio
    Clinton 46 (+1)
    Trump 45
    59.8% of projected turnout

    Pennsylvania
    Clinton 48 (+4)
    Trump 44
    45.9% of projected turnout

    Wisconsin
    Clinton 49 (+6)
    Trump 43
    47.9% of projected turnout

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    • Replies: @snorlax
    Update, all topline numbers completely unchanged, but turnout increased. Looks very bad for Trump if true; probably worse than Romney.

    CO: 72.2 -> 77.5% turnout
    FL: 74.9 -> 80.6
    IA: 55.9 -> 63.2
    NV: 58.7 -> 65.1
    NH: 44.0 -> 55.4
    OH: 59.8 -> 69.1
    PA: 45.9 -> 57.4
    WI: 47.9 -> 57.1
    , @Jack Hanson
    Iowa +1 when he's double digit polling ahead pre election?

    Okay thanks glad to know its garbage.

    Using vice.com? Has this election taught you anything about the media lying?

    , @The Z Blog
    These are all bullshit figures, by the way.
    , @colm
    That company is owned by Slate.

    'Nuf said.
    , @LondonBob
    Votecastr is garbage, I might as well make plausible numbers up and post them.
    , @Anon
    You believe anything from Slate?
  116. Lot says:

    Pumped my Trump wins NC bet up to 600 shares. Black early vote turnout down 8.7% while white turnout up double digits.

    Whatever you think about the Kochs ideology, they run a heck of a political machine in the states they control like NC.

    Trump had a weak and disorderly campaign but is benefiting in some states from well organized state parties. Part of the reason he will win OH and IA.

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    benefiting in some states from well organized state parties. Part of the reason he will win OH and IA.
     
    Isn't the IA state party still in disarray from the temporary takeover from the Ron Paul people? And then in OH, IIRC, the chairman is a NeverTrumper, not to mention Kasich.
  117. Orthodox says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    That was be for me the sweetest way to win anyways (as opposed to cobbling together small states like NH and MB.
     
    Er, Manitoba is not a state.

    But Manitoba would likely vote for Trump. A good reason to revisit the idea of invading Canada and taking the oil producing provinces.

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  118. Yak-15 says:
    @SPMoore8
    Voted in the rural NE on the way to work and it took 5 minutes. Pretty sure that the proliferation of Confederate, Don't Tread on Me, and Don't Tread on Me Confederate flags around town means that Hillary won't get much support here. Talked my wife out of voting for her. I expect Hillary to win but it won't be the end of the world. American Nationalism is now a "thing", and so is the appalling corruption of the political class. Many of my relatives in CA are voting for HRC, but none of them are happy about it. Best Regards to all.

    PS: the worst thing about a Hillary presidency -- because I guarantee you she has no real agenda except self-enrichment and self-glorification, and and there are enough decent people out there to stifle her -- will be having to deal with her face and her voice for 4 years. But I got through 8 years of Obama OK .....

    Her shrill, northern Chicagoan, folk-enhanced diction reminds me of all the scolding teachers I had growing up. I leave the room whenever she is speaking on television.

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    As bad as Hillary is to listen to, Elizabeth Warren is worse. When Warren starts yelling she sounds overwrought, like she is struggling not to burst into tears.
  119. snorlax says:
    @Lot
    Pumped my Trump wins NC bet up to 600 shares. Black early vote turnout down 8.7% while white turnout up double digits.

    Whatever you think about the Kochs ideology, they run a heck of a political machine in the states they control like NC.

    Trump had a weak and disorderly campaign but is benefiting in some states from well organized state parties. Part of the reason he will win OH and IA.

    benefiting in some states from well organized state parties. Part of the reason he will win OH and IA.

    Isn’t the IA state party still in disarray from the temporary takeover from the Ron Paul people? And then in OH, IIRC, the chairman is a NeverTrumper, not to mention Kasich.

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    • Replies: @Lot

    Isn’t the IA state party still in disarray from the temporary takeover from the Ron Paul people?
     
    Not really. And aside from the state party, the Tea Party and Evangelicals in the state are very well organized.

    And then in OH, IIRC, the chairman is a NeverTrumper, not to mention Kasich.
     
    Sure, but they are still getting GOP voters to the polls.
  120. snorlax says:
    @snorlax
    https://news.vice.com/story/live-election-day-turnout-results-with-votecastry

    Take these numbers with the appropriate heaping of salt, but this company VoteCastr is estimating the current election results based on a database of demographic data on the voters who've turned out so far.

    Looks bad for Trump, but it should be noted that Republicans tend to do poorly until 5 PM (they're at work), and VoteCastr's demographic model is based on the polls, so if there is a "shy Trump" effect, they're underestimating him.

    The Florida numbers also don't include the panhandle yet.

    Colorado
    Clinton 47 (+5)
    Trump 42
    72.2% of projected turnout

    Florida
    Clinton 49 (+4)
    Trump 45
    74.9% of projected turnout

    Iowa
    Clinton 45
    Trump 46 (+1)
    55.9% of projected turnout

    Nevada
    Clinton 47 (+3)
    Trump 44
    58.7% of projected turnout

    New Hampshire
    Clinton 47 (+4)
    Trump 43
    44.0% of projected turnout

    Ohio
    Clinton 46 (+1)
    Trump 45
    59.8% of projected turnout

    Pennsylvania
    Clinton 48 (+4)
    Trump 44
    45.9% of projected turnout

    Wisconsin
    Clinton 49 (+6)
    Trump 43
    47.9% of projected turnout

    Update, all topline numbers completely unchanged, but turnout increased. Looks very bad for Trump if true; probably worse than Romney.

    CO: 72.2 -> 77.5% turnout
    FL: 74.9 -> 80.6
    IA: 55.9 -> 63.2
    NV: 58.7 -> 65.1
    NH: 44.0 -> 55.4
    OH: 59.8 -> 69.1
    PA: 45.9 -> 57.4
    WI: 47.9 -> 57.1

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  121. @snorlax
    https://news.vice.com/story/live-election-day-turnout-results-with-votecastry

    Take these numbers with the appropriate heaping of salt, but this company VoteCastr is estimating the current election results based on a database of demographic data on the voters who've turned out so far.

    Looks bad for Trump, but it should be noted that Republicans tend to do poorly until 5 PM (they're at work), and VoteCastr's demographic model is based on the polls, so if there is a "shy Trump" effect, they're underestimating him.

    The Florida numbers also don't include the panhandle yet.

    Colorado
    Clinton 47 (+5)
    Trump 42
    72.2% of projected turnout

    Florida
    Clinton 49 (+4)
    Trump 45
    74.9% of projected turnout

    Iowa
    Clinton 45
    Trump 46 (+1)
    55.9% of projected turnout

    Nevada
    Clinton 47 (+3)
    Trump 44
    58.7% of projected turnout

    New Hampshire
    Clinton 47 (+4)
    Trump 43
    44.0% of projected turnout

    Ohio
    Clinton 46 (+1)
    Trump 45
    59.8% of projected turnout

    Pennsylvania
    Clinton 48 (+4)
    Trump 44
    45.9% of projected turnout

    Wisconsin
    Clinton 49 (+6)
    Trump 43
    47.9% of projected turnout

    Iowa +1 when he’s double digit polling ahead pre election?

    Okay thanks glad to know its garbage.

    Using vice.com? Has this election taught you anything about the media lying?

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  122. Hodag says:

    I am making mole and listening to the audiobook of Gibbon’s Decline and Fall.

    The die is cast and I can’t be arsed to listen to anymore of those idiots on TV. I hope there is a good basketball or hockey game on TV tonite. The Republic either survives or not. Hard to tell if it is worth saving.

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    You ask the 64k$ question of this century.....isit even worth sqving? I say no, let it burn and dissolve the way the Soviet Union did.....
  123. “Even in my very, very blue suburban MA town, I see hardly any Hillary signs.”

    I finally saw an illary sign while cruising a Northeast Portland suburb here in Oregon. The first! Bernie signs and bumperstickers still outnumber illary 10 to 1 and I’ve seen maybe a dozen Trump signs (always well protected behind a fence or gate). I really really hope that bitter, manhating sodomite loses.

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  124. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @snorlax
    Weren't you straight mere weeks ago?

    C'mon man, don't start slipping on us.

    How am I a troll, son?

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  125. The Z Blog says: • Website
    @snorlax
    https://news.vice.com/story/live-election-day-turnout-results-with-votecastry

    Take these numbers with the appropriate heaping of salt, but this company VoteCastr is estimating the current election results based on a database of demographic data on the voters who've turned out so far.

    Looks bad for Trump, but it should be noted that Republicans tend to do poorly until 5 PM (they're at work), and VoteCastr's demographic model is based on the polls, so if there is a "shy Trump" effect, they're underestimating him.

    The Florida numbers also don't include the panhandle yet.

    Colorado
    Clinton 47 (+5)
    Trump 42
    72.2% of projected turnout

    Florida
    Clinton 49 (+4)
    Trump 45
    74.9% of projected turnout

    Iowa
    Clinton 45
    Trump 46 (+1)
    55.9% of projected turnout

    Nevada
    Clinton 47 (+3)
    Trump 44
    58.7% of projected turnout

    New Hampshire
    Clinton 47 (+4)
    Trump 43
    44.0% of projected turnout

    Ohio
    Clinton 46 (+1)
    Trump 45
    59.8% of projected turnout

    Pennsylvania
    Clinton 48 (+4)
    Trump 44
    45.9% of projected turnout

    Wisconsin
    Clinton 49 (+6)
    Trump 43
    47.9% of projected turnout

    These are all bullshit figures, by the way.

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  126. I voted last week. It went smoothly enough. God knows if my vote actually got counted, though.

    I was surprised to learn that election day is now a holiday for public-school students. (Many schools are used as precincts.) Supposedly the kids can’t learn with all of the voters wandering through the hallways. When I was a kid, the schools were kept open and somehow we managed to cope.

    This is hearsay, but it comes from a reliable source:

    Last week, a 15-year military vet taking a few classes at a community college got into a tiff with a SJW in the middle of a class discussion about the campaign.

    She said something like, “Instead of dealing with substantive issues, we’ve been wasting our time talking about e-mail servers and Benghazi.”

    The vet took offense, saying that Benghazi is important because it proves that Hillary Clinton is manifestly unfit to serve as commander-in-chief.

    The argument devolved into a shouting match.

    The vet finally said, “If Hillary wins, then this country is going down in flames. And I’ll tell you this: I have my guns. I will do whatever I have to do to protect my family, if and when the time comes.”

    That was the end of it, until the SJW reported him to the dean. She said that he was “threatening to shoot up the school with his guns if Hillary wins.”

    The end result was that the vet was basically expelled – he voluntarily agreed to drop out. (He wasn’t doing all that well, anyway – he works two jobs, has a wife and a young kid, and doesn’t have much time to devote to his studies.) If he ever sets foot on campus, then security will detain him and call the police. (This incident was not reported.)

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  127. Bill says:
    @The King Is a Fink
    Can anyone recommend a good website for following the election results for people outside the US who don't have TV coverage? Thanks in advance.

    Many local US TV stations have live streams. For example, here is a list of NBC stations. I doubt all of them have free live streams, but some do.

    ABC News has a free live stream here.
    CBS News has a free live stream here.

    Here is a CNET article on where to get streams.

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    Thanks for the links - I will check them out. I am looking for something with a bit of balance, which is impossible to find here in Ireland on the national broadcaster. I just switched the TV off in disgust after the 'debate' I was watching involved the Irish presenter and four New York Times staff. Unbelievable.
  128. AnonAnon says:

    Voted at 9:30 am in my Orange County,CA mostly-republican area. I didn’t have to wait but it was healthily busy, mostly with retirees. Nothing of note except two of the people in front of me wanted to replace their absentee ballots with in-person votes. Not sure if they lost them or changed their minds.

    I like all these prediction numbers in this thread from Clinton-postive media sites, still on the job Correct the Record?

    I think we have a crazy four years in front of us no matter who wins. The press will continue to be all over Trump if he does and if she does, we’ll keep having awesome leaks until Hillary is impeached/indicted.

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  129. Bill says:
    @JimB
    Actually, I don't give a fig about the porn industry, and the thought of porn actors having to wear wearing safety goggles and nitrile gloves during fallatio is pretty hilarious. However, as a rule with few exceptions, No is the correct vote on all California propositions. They invariably make the sponsors economic winners at the expense of the voters.

    With a ballooning Hispanic renter class, expect a Prop 13 repeal in the next few election cycles. It will cause real estate values to implode as home buyers are forced to fold a hefty property tax into their monthly housing budget. If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners, but leaving them stuck in houses they can't sell. Eventually, large tracts of single family homes will be bulldozed to build garden apartments.

    If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners,

    Isn’t that exactly what Prop 13 does now? Property taxes go up when you sell the house, right?

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  130. Anonym says:

    Phew. My ballot just arrived at the destination. What a relief – I did my part.

    It’s a funny thing, voting. It’s almost religious in that rarely does an individual vote make a difference but it’s the overall sentiment and magnitude that decides. I feel better for having done it.

    Trump 2016!

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  131. snorlax says:

    New numbers, mostly improvements for Trump. Looks like it’ll be close:

    FL
    Clinton: 4225249 (51.7%)
    Trump: 3947947 (48.3%)

    IA
    Clinton: 524152 (50.9%)
    Trump: 505385 (49.1%)

    NV
    Clinton: 408495 (50.5%)
    Trump: 401051 (49.5%)

    NH
    Clinton: 204682 (52.0%)
    Trump: 188947 (48.0%)

    OH
    Clinton: 1968075 (50.4%)
    Trump: 1939358 (49.6%)

    PA
    Clinton: 1787755 (51.5%)
    Trump: 1684020 (48.5%)

    WI
    Clinton: 995225 (53.8%)
    Trump: 856464 (46.3%)

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    • Replies: @candid_observer
    Is this Complex Analysis?

    I'm seeing a lot of imaginary numbers out there.
    , @snorlax
    Different numbers on Vice than Slate:

    Colorado
    Clinton: 46 (+2, was +5)
    Trump: 44
    80.3% of projected turnout (was 77.5)

    Florida
    Clinton: 48 (+3, was +4)
    Trump: 45
    83.9% of projected turnout (was 80.6)

    Iowa
    Clinton: 45
    Trump: 46 (+1, unchanged)
    66.5% of projected turnout (was 63.2)

    Nevada
    Clinton: 46 (+1, was +3)
    Trump: 45
    68.8% of projected turnout (was 65.1)

    New Hampshire
    Clinton: 47 (+4, unchanged)
    Trump: 43
    61.9% of projected turnout (was 55.4)

    Ohio
    Clinton: 45
    Trump: 46 (+1, was trailing by 1)
    73.7% of projected turnout (was 69.1)

    Pennsylvania
    Clinton: 48 (+3, was +4)
    Trump: 45
    63.2% of projected turnout (was 57.4)

    Wisconsin
    Clinton: 48 (+5, was +6)
    Trump: 43
    62.0% of projected turnout (was 57.1)
    , @snorlax
    New Slate numbers: http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html?live=true

    FL
    Clinton: 4722116 (51.7%)
    Trump: 4418096 (48.4%)

    IA
    Clinton: 614338 (50.6%)
    Trump: 599045 (49.4%)

    NV
    Clinton: 473173 (50.4%)
    Trump: 465706 (49.6%)

    NH
    Clinton: 272762 (51.3%)
    Trump: 258602 (48.7%)

    OH
    Clinton: 2353327 (50.2%)
    Trump: 2331714 (49.8%)

    PA
    Clinton: 2309924 (51.6%)
    Trump: 2170837 (48.5%)

    WI
    Clinton: 1109900 (53.7%)
    Trump: 957977 (46.4%)
  132. Bill says:
    @Jack D
    Could the President be white if he was gay or tranny? Caitlyn Jenner for President!

    James O’Meara is a white gay nazi tranny. Does that somehow cancel out, do you think?

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  133. Heavily Hispanic and D location in Texas was *crickets* at lunch today. I was the only one I saw voting.

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  134. @JimB
    I live in a blue state. Trying to figure out if I should write in Bernie, since there is a pretty big Never Hillary movement out here. Voting for Trump is pointless, but if every Republican wrote in Bernie, it just might deny Hillary some electoral votes.

    But your vote still counts as a data point in support of Trump/nationalism/law&order, etc. It’s extremely valuable information for local representatives. I want my Democratic reps to know that they have constituents that disapprove of their positions on immigration. I want the Illinois Republican Party to know that I voted for Trump but not for Mark Kirk.

    The Cabrini Green polling station was staffed by fat and jolly black ladies whose dialect is incomprehensible to me. But they were super sweet to my 15-month-old daughter, so I was inclined to like them.

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    • Replies: @Hodag
    Nothing but city workers in my Old Irving precinct. White dudes, and a thirty year old SWPL looking woman.

    Very efficient.
  135. @snorlax
    New numbers, mostly improvements for Trump. Looks like it'll be close:

    FL
    Clinton: 4225249 (51.7%)
    Trump: 3947947 (48.3%)

    IA
    Clinton: 524152 (50.9%)
    Trump: 505385 (49.1%)

    NV
    Clinton: 408495 (50.5%)
    Trump: 401051 (49.5%)

    NH
    Clinton: 204682 (52.0%)
    Trump: 188947 (48.0%)

    OH
    Clinton: 1968075 (50.4%)
    Trump: 1939358 (49.6%)

    PA
    Clinton: 1787755 (51.5%)
    Trump: 1684020 (48.5%)

    WI
    Clinton: 995225 (53.8%)
    Trump: 856464 (46.3%)

    Is this Complex Analysis?

    I’m seeing a lot of imaginary numbers out there.

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  136. Svigor says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/11/08/2016-polls-less-reliable-silver/

    Many 2016 polls may prove incorrect because so many Americans are undecided or else say they’re backing third parties, says Nate Silver, founder of the fivethirtyeight.com polling firm.

    So, Nate has definitely read my August posts. Again: poll averages have consistently shown both candidates in the mid forties at best, leaving a lot of wiggle room.

    The undecideds will break harder for Trump than would be expected, because everybody who was subject to the media indoctrination has decided for cankles ages ago.

    5pm
    VA: Hillary
    NH: Trump
    5:30
    NC: Trump
    OH: Trump
    6pm
    ME: Hillary
    PA: Hillary
    FL: Trump
    7pm
    MI: Hillary
    WI: Hillary
    MN: Hillary
    CO: Trump
    AZ: Trump
    8pm
    IA: Trump
    UT: Trump
    NV: Trump

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  137. @Tiny Duck
    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn't feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won't have to.

    If you and yours succeed in eliminating white supremacy, you would soon discover the numerous joys of living in black or brown countries. Welcome to Venezuela, South Africa and all the other turd world dumps. Of course, if you’re in a hurry, you could leave asap and save yourself mucho time and effort.

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  138. DW says:
    @The King Is a Fink
    Can anyone recommend a good website for following the election results for people outside the US who don't have TV coverage? Thanks in advance.

    Gatewaypundit
    Conservative treehouse

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  139. Olorin says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn't feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won't have to.

    How down low can you go?

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  140. @snorlax
    Weren't you straight mere weeks ago?

    C'mon man, don't start slipping on us.

    It depends on the source from which he (she? xe?) is copying the content.

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  141. My main concern:

    There is always a margin of fraud. What held it to a small number (2%?) was the likelihood that the opposing party would fight it if it got too large or unbelievable.

    In this election, I suspect the Democrats are willing to push the limits of fraud higher (what percentage I don’t know. 3%? 5%?). But the worrisome part is that the Republicans-the Republican Power- don’t seem like the kinds of guys that would fight against election fraud very hard.

    If everybody in power hates Trump, that opens the floodgates of corruption. You can’t catch what you don’t want to see.

    joeyjoejoe

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  142. Veracitor says:

    I heard another concern-trolling bit of Hillary propaganda on the radio this morning: one announcer asking another whether “if Hillary wins, will Trump supporters react with violence?”

    That sounds like projection to me. We have nothing to fear from Trump supporters who, after all, are the law-abiding wing of the American electorate, even if (for instance) obvious fraud hands Hillary the electoral college without the popular vote.

    However, if Hillary obtains the Presidency we can look forward to a lot of violence from her supporters, and the smaller her victory the worse that violence will be.

    Hillary’s violence will take the form of property confiscations and arrests for “environmental” violations, arrests for “hate speech” when communities protest the forced resettlement of illegal immigrant paupers and criminals in their neighborhoods, greatly increased urban crime when police are forbidden to arrest minorities, house-to-house searches for newly-banned guns by Federal agents using lists of buyers taken from gun-shops’ records, and so-forth.

    If Hillary wins, her supporters will invert the Constitution and stop at nothing in an attempt to crush their Trump-supporting enemies for all time. They will take Erdogan and Maduro as their role models.

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    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Yes, I spoke to a guy who does maintenance in our building yesterday and he is convinced that Trump people will riot in the streets if Hillary wins (he's white, BTW). Of course I don't think that's going to happen, but I will not be surprised if there are celebratory riots and undocumented shopping after she wins.

    What does seem clear in this election is that the country is very polarized, and whichever side loses isn't going to stop acting up. However, to the extent that #BLM, LGBTQIA, immigration, etc. etc. were all features of Obama's presidency, they will continue to be a feature of Hillary's as well.

    Since the negatives on Hillary are already high -- about 60%, from what I have seen -- then I expect a lot of people voting for her will register remorse by voting for Republicans in other areas. So while the GOP will probably lose the Senate, it won't lose it by much, and they will probably keep the House.

    The other thing that comes out of this election, aside from polarization, is the rottenness of the political dominant class in general, as well as the main-stream media. A ton of ammunition about both of those points was made clear in this election, and that information isn't going to go away.

    So, assuming Hillary in a blow out -- which is how it is shaping up -- then at least the opposition isn't going to go away.
  143. colm says:
    @snorlax
    https://news.vice.com/story/live-election-day-turnout-results-with-votecastry

    Take these numbers with the appropriate heaping of salt, but this company VoteCastr is estimating the current election results based on a database of demographic data on the voters who've turned out so far.

    Looks bad for Trump, but it should be noted that Republicans tend to do poorly until 5 PM (they're at work), and VoteCastr's demographic model is based on the polls, so if there is a "shy Trump" effect, they're underestimating him.

    The Florida numbers also don't include the panhandle yet.

    Colorado
    Clinton 47 (+5)
    Trump 42
    72.2% of projected turnout

    Florida
    Clinton 49 (+4)
    Trump 45
    74.9% of projected turnout

    Iowa
    Clinton 45
    Trump 46 (+1)
    55.9% of projected turnout

    Nevada
    Clinton 47 (+3)
    Trump 44
    58.7% of projected turnout

    New Hampshire
    Clinton 47 (+4)
    Trump 43
    44.0% of projected turnout

    Ohio
    Clinton 46 (+1)
    Trump 45
    59.8% of projected turnout

    Pennsylvania
    Clinton 48 (+4)
    Trump 44
    45.9% of projected turnout

    Wisconsin
    Clinton 49 (+6)
    Trump 43
    47.9% of projected turnout

    That company is owned by Slate.

    ‘Nuf said.

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  144. snorlax says:
    @snorlax
    New numbers, mostly improvements for Trump. Looks like it'll be close:

    FL
    Clinton: 4225249 (51.7%)
    Trump: 3947947 (48.3%)

    IA
    Clinton: 524152 (50.9%)
    Trump: 505385 (49.1%)

    NV
    Clinton: 408495 (50.5%)
    Trump: 401051 (49.5%)

    NH
    Clinton: 204682 (52.0%)
    Trump: 188947 (48.0%)

    OH
    Clinton: 1968075 (50.4%)
    Trump: 1939358 (49.6%)

    PA
    Clinton: 1787755 (51.5%)
    Trump: 1684020 (48.5%)

    WI
    Clinton: 995225 (53.8%)
    Trump: 856464 (46.3%)

    Different numbers on Vice than Slate:

    Colorado
    Clinton: 46 (+2, was +5)
    Trump: 44
    80.3% of projected turnout (was 77.5)

    Florida
    Clinton: 48 (+3, was +4)
    Trump: 45
    83.9% of projected turnout (was 80.6)

    Iowa
    Clinton: 45
    Trump: 46 (+1, unchanged)
    66.5% of projected turnout (was 63.2)

    Nevada
    Clinton: 46 (+1, was +3)
    Trump: 45
    68.8% of projected turnout (was 65.1)

    New Hampshire
    Clinton: 47 (+4, unchanged)
    Trump: 43
    61.9% of projected turnout (was 55.4)

    Ohio
    Clinton: 45
    Trump: 46 (+1, was trailing by 1)
    73.7% of projected turnout (was 69.1)

    Pennsylvania
    Clinton: 48 (+3, was +4)
    Trump: 45
    63.2% of projected turnout (was 57.4)

    Wisconsin
    Clinton: 48 (+5, was +6)
    Trump: 43
    62.0% of projected turnout (was 57.1)

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    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    Snorlax, all these numbers are meaningless, in my opinion. Why should we trust them any more than the polls three days ago?
    , @Anonymous
    Stop posting fake Slate numbers!!!
  145. snorlax says:
    @candid_observer
    Is this Complex Analysis?

    I'm seeing a lot of imaginary numbers out there.

    Not my numbers; see my first post.

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  146. Kyle a says:
    @JimB
    I live in a blue state. Trying to figure out if I should write in Bernie, since there is a pretty big Never Hillary movement out here. Voting for Trump is pointless, but if every Republican wrote in Bernie, it just might deny Hillary some electoral votes.

    That might be one of the more idiotic comments I e seen here.

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  147. Svigor says:

    Patrick in SC says:

    November 8, 2016 at 5:29 pm GMT • 100 Words

    Agreed.

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  148. LondonBob says:

    Looks like a big win for Trump, who said Florida is always close. Hope he manages to take Minnesota, do it for Reagan.

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  149. LondonBob says:
    @snorlax
    https://news.vice.com/story/live-election-day-turnout-results-with-votecastry

    Take these numbers with the appropriate heaping of salt, but this company VoteCastr is estimating the current election results based on a database of demographic data on the voters who've turned out so far.

    Looks bad for Trump, but it should be noted that Republicans tend to do poorly until 5 PM (they're at work), and VoteCastr's demographic model is based on the polls, so if there is a "shy Trump" effect, they're underestimating him.

    The Florida numbers also don't include the panhandle yet.

    Colorado
    Clinton 47 (+5)
    Trump 42
    72.2% of projected turnout

    Florida
    Clinton 49 (+4)
    Trump 45
    74.9% of projected turnout

    Iowa
    Clinton 45
    Trump 46 (+1)
    55.9% of projected turnout

    Nevada
    Clinton 47 (+3)
    Trump 44
    58.7% of projected turnout

    New Hampshire
    Clinton 47 (+4)
    Trump 43
    44.0% of projected turnout

    Ohio
    Clinton 46 (+1)
    Trump 45
    59.8% of projected turnout

    Pennsylvania
    Clinton 48 (+4)
    Trump 44
    45.9% of projected turnout

    Wisconsin
    Clinton 49 (+6)
    Trump 43
    47.9% of projected turnout

    Votecastr is garbage, I might as well make plausible numbers up and post them.

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  150. @snorlax
    Weren't you straight mere weeks ago?

    C'mon man, don't start slipping on us.

    The term partner can be used by straight people. So please check your privilege, shitlord.

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  151. @snorlax
    Different numbers on Vice than Slate:

    Colorado
    Clinton: 46 (+2, was +5)
    Trump: 44
    80.3% of projected turnout (was 77.5)

    Florida
    Clinton: 48 (+3, was +4)
    Trump: 45
    83.9% of projected turnout (was 80.6)

    Iowa
    Clinton: 45
    Trump: 46 (+1, unchanged)
    66.5% of projected turnout (was 63.2)

    Nevada
    Clinton: 46 (+1, was +3)
    Trump: 45
    68.8% of projected turnout (was 65.1)

    New Hampshire
    Clinton: 47 (+4, unchanged)
    Trump: 43
    61.9% of projected turnout (was 55.4)

    Ohio
    Clinton: 45
    Trump: 46 (+1, was trailing by 1)
    73.7% of projected turnout (was 69.1)

    Pennsylvania
    Clinton: 48 (+3, was +4)
    Trump: 45
    63.2% of projected turnout (was 57.4)

    Wisconsin
    Clinton: 48 (+5, was +6)
    Trump: 43
    62.0% of projected turnout (was 57.1)

    Snorlax, all these numbers are meaningless, in my opinion. Why should we trust them any more than the polls three days ago?

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    • Replies: @snorlax
    You shouldn't, but it gives us something to look at while we wait for the real numbers.

    (As real as TPTB will allow, at least).
  152. San Francisco voter. Came in to a local school with a pre filled ballot. Two militant lesbians directed me to seal the ballot in the envelope that came with it , put a date and drop it in a box (I said I could go into a booth and copy my ballot for security). No ID check, no voter registration check. I have an accent, first time voter (US citizen for 14 years).

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    • Replies: @Robert Hume
    So anyone could print up identical ballots and have a random person put them in?

    So no record that you actually voted? You'd think that both partys would be interested in that information. Perhaps the Republicans in San Francisco think it's hopeless.
  153. Svigor says:

    Drudge sez:

    HILLARY +PA
    TRUMP +AZ, GA, IA, NC, OH
    COLORADO SHOWDOWN
    FLORIDA SHOWDOWN
    MICHIGAN SHOWDOWN
    NEVADA SHOWDOWN

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  154. I’m feeling depressed that Trump is probably about to lose but even more depressed that it’s a rearguard holding action that will be ultimately futile, even if he were to win. Oh well, at least I can stop thinking about politics so much after this shitshow is over.

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  155. Berty says:

    Looks like the suicidal ninnies are out in full force now. Holy shit just give it a rest with the apocalypse nonsense, will ya?

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  156. SPMoore8 says:
    @Veracitor
    I heard another concern-trolling bit of Hillary propaganda on the radio this morning: one announcer asking another whether "if Hillary wins, will Trump supporters react with violence?"

    That sounds like projection to me. We have nothing to fear from Trump supporters who, after all, are the law-abiding wing of the American electorate, even if (for instance) obvious fraud hands Hillary the electoral college without the popular vote.

    However, if Hillary obtains the Presidency we can look forward to a lot of violence from her supporters, and the smaller her victory the worse that violence will be.

    Hillary's violence will take the form of property confiscations and arrests for "environmental" violations, arrests for "hate speech" when communities protest the forced resettlement of illegal immigrant paupers and criminals in their neighborhoods, greatly increased urban crime when police are forbidden to arrest minorities, house-to-house searches for newly-banned guns by Federal agents using lists of buyers taken from gun-shops' records, and so-forth.

    If Hillary wins, her supporters will invert the Constitution and stop at nothing in an attempt to crush their Trump-supporting enemies for all time. They will take Erdogan and Maduro as their role models.

    Yes, I spoke to a guy who does maintenance in our building yesterday and he is convinced that Trump people will riot in the streets if Hillary wins (he’s white, BTW). Of course I don’t think that’s going to happen, but I will not be surprised if there are celebratory riots and undocumented shopping after she wins.

    What does seem clear in this election is that the country is very polarized, and whichever side loses isn’t going to stop acting up. However, to the extent that #BLM, LGBTQIA, immigration, etc. etc. were all features of Obama’s presidency, they will continue to be a feature of Hillary’s as well.

    Since the negatives on Hillary are already high — about 60%, from what I have seen — then I expect a lot of people voting for her will register remorse by voting for Republicans in other areas. So while the GOP will probably lose the Senate, it won’t lose it by much, and they will probably keep the House.

    The other thing that comes out of this election, aside from polarization, is the rottenness of the political dominant class in general, as well as the main-stream media. A ton of ammunition about both of those points was made clear in this election, and that information isn’t going to go away.

    So, assuming Hillary in a blow out — which is how it is shaping up — then at least the opposition isn’t going to go away.

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    • Replies: @colm
    It doesn't matter. The oppositions will be as relevant as Stalin's 'opposition'.

    ---

    Sailer is moderating my posts away because I correctly pointed out that Taki wants the Clintons in the White House again.
  157. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @keypusher
    Looked like a good turnout in Washington Heights. One vote for Trump, but not many more.

    Wow. Washington Heights NYC?
    Count 3, mate.

    My roommate and I boarded the Trump train!

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  158. The best thing about this election is that defeatist cucks like SPMoore will have to find a new line of defeatism after Trump wins.

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  159. @Mark Caplan
    Pennsylvania has no early voting and limited absentee voting. If the election outcome there roughly matches the polls, then the "shy Trump voter theory" is a myth. Adios, America.

    Really, you just said, “If the Shy Trump Voter Theory is a myth, then the Shy Trump Voter Theory is a myth”. You are a jabroni.

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    • Replies: @NOTA
    The first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club!
  160. snorlax says:
    @reiner Tor
    Snorlax, all these numbers are meaningless, in my opinion. Why should we trust them any more than the polls three days ago?

    You shouldn’t, but it gives us something to look at while we wait for the real numbers.

    (As real as TPTB will allow, at least).

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  161. Berty says:

    You’re also the same person who thinks people still read newspapers and believe this is what will kill the old media as though it wasn’t dying already. I think you’re an extremely out of touch old guy.

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  162. Doug says:

    Voted for Johnson. Can’t stomach Trump’s ignorance of basic economics and general disregard for the rule of law.

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    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    Voted for Johnson. Can’t stomach Trump’s ignorance [etc., etc.]
     
    Let's hope this Johnson guy wins; Hillary would be a really bad president. Way worse than Trump.
    , @Buzz Mohawk

    "Voted for Johnson."
     
    Correction: You voted for Clinton.

    If she wins, you own her, Fool.
    , @Flip
    I have always voted Libertarian (including Johnson four years ago), but I voted for Trump this time. If he could put himself through all this, I figured I couldn't not vote for him.
    , @Big Johnson Supporter
    Sure, rule of law.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlmU9LvtAs
    , @gregor
    Minorities block vote for big government democrats. Do you really think laissez faire economics will have much of a future in minority-majority America? Libertarians are shooting themselves in the foot with their immigration stance.
  163. @The King Is a Fink
    Can anyone recommend a good website for following the election results for people outside the US who don't have TV coverage? Thanks in advance.

    Slate (very biased to left) has an interesting partnership with VoteCastr to show turnout estimates. That is not necessarily predictive but is interesting. Politico and CBS also have pretty good live updating of results.

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  164. Hunsdon says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn't feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won't have to.

    The God-Emperor Trump is gracious. He is generous, forgiving, kind. You, too, will love him soon enough.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    From his comment, sounds like he's already into worshipping men.
  165. Assange has said he’s got info that will definitely put Clinton in jail.

    Is it just me or isn’t he cutting things a bit close.

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    • Replies: @melendwyr
    Close? More like too late. A week before the election would have been 'cutting it close'.

    [edit] Also, information about a crime can only put someone in jail if the authorities are willing to prosecute... and Hillary Rodham Clinton is demonstrably above the law, because 'the law' isn't willing to apply itself to her.

    , @SPMoore8
    If Assange has leaks that will put Hillary in jail, why leak them before the election, unless he wants Trump to be president?

    Remember, he sees himself as exposing the corruption of the American political system, he does not see himself as a conservative Republican supporting Trump.

    I just hope he likes the idea of President Kaine.

    On the thesis that "Assange has material that will put Hillary in jail" you can expect that data to be exposed after, not before, the election.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    I think the assumption that his preferred outcome is a Trump win is not obviously correct. If he really does have info that will put her away, he may be holding out for a solid Dem lock first, resulting in a Kaine presidency.

    Also, he may not actually want to interfere in the election, or it may be that Ecuador or some other entity has influenced him not to. If WikiLeaks clearly influenced an election in a major power, it might make various parties less supportive and undermine the current protection/support they receive.
    , @WhatEvvs
    He never said that.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/will-a-wikileaks-email-get-clinton-imprisoned.html

    "Assange did not make that claim in that interview, and while it’s hard to prove the total nonexistence of a two-word quote, there’s no clear evidence he uttered that phrase in an interview at all."

    Assange thinks Hillary is indictment worthy, but specifically says that Lynch will never indict her.

    I wish it were true, but I'll believe it when I see it.

    , @NOTA
    If Assange had something that would put Hillary in prison, he would have published it by now.
  166. jon says:
    @The King Is a Fink
    Can anyone recommend a good website for following the election results for people outside the US who don't have TV coverage? Thanks in advance.

    Can anyone recommend a good website for following the election results

    DecisionDeskHQ.com was pretty good during the primaries.

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  167. Voted just before lunch hour, only one person in front of me at the check-in table in my Midwestern big city.

    Short lines at the electronic ballot machines, no line at my paper ballot table: in & out in ten minutes, and it only took that long because the ballot here had a long list of “shall circuit court judge so-and-so be retained in office” items (as there’s no local media coverage of judges’ performance, I vote uniformly against retaining judges in office), and because there were six ballot items embracing state constitutional amendments and a ballot proposition.

    Now it’s time to pray. Fervently.

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  168. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The MSM (and a few trolls here) are still frantically trying to stump against Trump. Not like anyone is going to change their vote at this point, but it’s funny at least that they’re wasting so much of their effort on it.

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  169. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @snorlax
    https://news.vice.com/story/live-election-day-turnout-results-with-votecastry

    Take these numbers with the appropriate heaping of salt, but this company VoteCastr is estimating the current election results based on a database of demographic data on the voters who've turned out so far.

    Looks bad for Trump, but it should be noted that Republicans tend to do poorly until 5 PM (they're at work), and VoteCastr's demographic model is based on the polls, so if there is a "shy Trump" effect, they're underestimating him.

    The Florida numbers also don't include the panhandle yet.

    Colorado
    Clinton 47 (+5)
    Trump 42
    72.2% of projected turnout

    Florida
    Clinton 49 (+4)
    Trump 45
    74.9% of projected turnout

    Iowa
    Clinton 45
    Trump 46 (+1)
    55.9% of projected turnout

    Nevada
    Clinton 47 (+3)
    Trump 44
    58.7% of projected turnout

    New Hampshire
    Clinton 47 (+4)
    Trump 43
    44.0% of projected turnout

    Ohio
    Clinton 46 (+1)
    Trump 45
    59.8% of projected turnout

    Pennsylvania
    Clinton 48 (+4)
    Trump 44
    45.9% of projected turnout

    Wisconsin
    Clinton 49 (+6)
    Trump 43
    47.9% of projected turnout

    You believe anything from Slate?

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  170. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Hunsdon
    The God-Emperor Trump is gracious. He is generous, forgiving, kind. You, too, will love him soon enough.

    From his comment, sounds like he’s already into worshipping men.

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  171. sayless says:
    @keypusher
    Looked like a good turnout in Washington Heights. One vote for Trump, but not many more.

    Looked like a good turnout in Washington Heights. One vote for Trump, but not many more.

    Up 200 %, keypusher. My godmother and myself. At least. (Broadway/186th).

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  172. @Paleo in Northern Virginiastan
    I voted less than an hour after polls opened in Fairfax County, VA with no line at all. My colleagues reported the same thing at their polling places. Let's hope that there's big turnout for The Donald in downstate VA!

    Last time I voted was for GWB in 2000. Didn’t work out so well. As I voted for The Donald I got a tears in my eyes. The chance to vote for my hero! As Dylan said,either I’m too sensitive or else I’m gettin’ soft.

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  173. melendwyr says: • Website
    @anony-mouse
    Assange has said he's got info that will definitely put Clinton in jail.

    Is it just me or isn't he cutting things a bit close.

    Close? More like too late. A week before the election would have been ‘cutting it close’.

    [edit] Also, information about a crime can only put someone in jail if the authorities are willing to prosecute… and Hillary Rodham Clinton is demonstrably above the law, because ‘the law’ isn’t willing to apply itself to her.

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  174. C says:
    @(((Owen)))

    In order of swing-state poll closing times for easy election night reference,

    5pm
    VA: Hillary
    NH: Hillary
    5:30
    NC: Hillary
    OH: Trump
    6pm
    ME: Hillary
    PA: Hillary
    FL: Hillary
    7pm
    MI: Hillary
    WI: Hillary
    MN: Hillary
    CO: Hillary
    AZ: Hillary
    8pm
    IA: Trump
    UT: Trump
    NV: Hillary

    Electoral College: 334 Hillary – 204 Trump
     
    I put up my final forecast a week ago and I'm still happy with it. Things have tightened in NC and AZ and I'd now predict that AZ will go Trump and NC is 50/50, if it weren't too late to change. My new total would be 308-230, if I were updating based on today's polls.

    But I put up my final prediction a week ago and it's set in stone: 334-204. Really, its an amazingly good outcome for a presidential candidate who can't discipline himself to go a week without a self-imposed major embarrassment and who couldn't be bothered to learn anything about the issues or practice for a debate or organize a ground game for turnout.

    Which makes me wonder why Republicans nominated a guy like that. Oh yeah, I remember: Because the Republican Party is such a treasonous screwup swamp that all sixteen other candidates were clearly and obviously worse.

    Don't forget to vote.

    This is one of the dumbest posts I’ve seen:

    1. Trump’s “self-imposed” major embarrassments were nothing but drummed up bull shit. Remember, this is a media that reported that Mitt Romney killed a guy, made a big deal about him putting a dog on the roof of his car, made him out to be a homophobe by bringing up some story about him “bullying” a gay classmate, labelled him racist, sexist, etc. The only differences this time around are: Trump is a credible threat to the establishment and not a career politician, thus more likely to not speak in a typical drone fashion.

    2. Trump won the second and third debate

    3. Newt on Trump’s ground game: https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/795632608684163073

    Oh and your map has no chance of being accurate. Sit this one out concern troll.

    See You Next Tuesday.

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  175. SPMoore8 says:
    @anony-mouse
    Assange has said he's got info that will definitely put Clinton in jail.

    Is it just me or isn't he cutting things a bit close.

    If Assange has leaks that will put Hillary in jail, why leak them before the election, unless he wants Trump to be president?

    Remember, he sees himself as exposing the corruption of the American political system, he does not see himself as a conservative Republican supporting Trump.

    I just hope he likes the idea of President Kaine.

    On the thesis that “Assange has material that will put Hillary in jail” you can expect that data to be exposed after, not before, the election.

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    • Agree: Stephen R. Diamond, AP
    • Replies: @Daniel H
    I agree with you. There is no reason to believe that Assange cares one whit whether Trump wins. There is no evidence to indicate that Assange likes, respects or supports America. I think that it is better to assume that Assange hates America, and what better way to hurt America than to release damning evidence on Hillary after she wins the election. He will have thrown America into the political abyss from which she might not recover.

    If Assange has damning evidence of criminal behavior on Hillary there is no way she will be removed in a Senate trial. Even if she were incontrovertibly linked to homicide. As for criminal action, Obama or she, herself, would just pardon her. This wouldl throw the country into chaos.

    Assange may be just playing his hand to the best possible effect, or he may just be bullshitting. Time will tell.

    , @Anonymous
    The Wikileaks Twitter (which seems a bit rogue) threatened to release dirt on Kaine a couple of weeks ago but hasn't done it yet.
    , @melendwyr
    So your argument is that Assange would want to disgrace the President-Elect, not the mere candidate?

    That's assuming that she actually wins, which I grant is reasonable enough. If she doesn't, though, that biding revelation drops in value greatly.
    , @WhatEvvs
    When did Assange say that? And what can he do in the Ecuadorian Embassy, with zero internet access? He's a prisoner.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    It's possible that we've (I've?) been too naive about Assange in assuming he is driven purely by principle.

    In the recent RT interview with him, he was asked directly if was trying to get Trump elected. He answered(at 13:05) that Trump "would not be permitted" to win because the "establishment" is united against him. At first, I took this to be speculation, but perhaps it represented some insider information. It appears that the Swedish are now considering reversing their criminal charges/extradition threats:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecuador-sweden-assange-idUSKBN1320UV

    Why would that be? And why at this time?

    Maybe the way the documents have been trickling out of WikiLeaks in bits with promises of more to come as well as the threats that haven't been followed through on (such as releases about Kaine) represent an ongoing negotiation between Assange and some figures in his "establishment". The deal? He doesn't release damning info before the election, and he gets to return to his home and family.
  176. Close? More like too late. A week before the election would have been ‘cutting it close’.

    Maybe Julian wants to see her win first, and then drop his load? Maybe he wants to visit maximum chaos upon our political system?

    Remember, the Watergate break-in happened before the election in which Nixon cruised to a blow-out victory — the resulting “cancer upon the presidency” dragged out for two more years.

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  177. @Doug
    Voted for Johnson. Can't stomach Trump's ignorance of basic economics and general disregard for the rule of law.

    Voted for Johnson. Can’t stomach Trump’s ignorance [etc., etc.]

    Let’s hope this Johnson guy wins; Hillary would be a really bad president. Way worse than Trump.

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  178. @anony-mouse
    Assange has said he's got info that will definitely put Clinton in jail.

    Is it just me or isn't he cutting things a bit close.

    I think the assumption that his preferred outcome is a Trump win is not obviously correct. If he really does have info that will put her away, he may be holding out for a solid Dem lock first, resulting in a Kaine presidency.

    Also, he may not actually want to interfere in the election, or it may be that Ecuador or some other entity has influenced him not to. If WikiLeaks clearly influenced an election in a major power, it might make various parties less supportive and undermine the current protection/support they receive.

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  179. @Doug
    Voted for Johnson. Can't stomach Trump's ignorance of basic economics and general disregard for the rule of law.

    “Voted for Johnson.”

    Correction: You voted for Clinton.

    If she wins, you own her, Fool.

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    • Replies: @Mark F.
    Yes, only the two major parties have a divine right to our votes. And how do you know that Clinton wasn't his second choice? If so, he's helping Trump. You probably don't mind liberals voting for Jill Stein, do you?
  180. Lot says:
    @snorlax

    benefiting in some states from well organized state parties. Part of the reason he will win OH and IA.
     
    Isn't the IA state party still in disarray from the temporary takeover from the Ron Paul people? And then in OH, IIRC, the chairman is a NeverTrumper, not to mention Kasich.

    Isn’t the IA state party still in disarray from the temporary takeover from the Ron Paul people?

    Not really. And aside from the state party, the Tea Party and Evangelicals in the state are very well organized.

    And then in OH, IIRC, the chairman is a NeverTrumper, not to mention Kasich.

    Sure, but they are still getting GOP voters to the polls.

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  181. Flip says:
    @Doug
    Voted for Johnson. Can't stomach Trump's ignorance of basic economics and general disregard for the rule of law.

    I have always voted Libertarian (including Johnson four years ago), but I voted for Trump this time. If he could put himself through all this, I figured I couldn’t not vote for him.

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  182. Daniel H says:
    @SPMoore8
    If Assange has leaks that will put Hillary in jail, why leak them before the election, unless he wants Trump to be president?

    Remember, he sees himself as exposing the corruption of the American political system, he does not see himself as a conservative Republican supporting Trump.

    I just hope he likes the idea of President Kaine.

    On the thesis that "Assange has material that will put Hillary in jail" you can expect that data to be exposed after, not before, the election.

    I agree with you. There is no reason to believe that Assange cares one whit whether Trump wins. There is no evidence to indicate that Assange likes, respects or supports America. I think that it is better to assume that Assange hates America, and what better way to hurt America than to release damning evidence on Hillary after she wins the election. He will have thrown America into the political abyss from which she might not recover.

    If Assange has damning evidence of criminal behavior on Hillary there is no way she will be removed in a Senate trial. Even if she were incontrovertibly linked to homicide. As for criminal action, Obama or she, herself, would just pardon her. This wouldl throw the country into chaos.

    Assange may be just playing his hand to the best possible effect, or he may just be bullshitting. Time will tell.

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  183. Lot says:

    Now up to 900 shares on Trump wins NC.

    Starting to have doubts, but they cost 38 cents and pay about 91 after fees!

    It is all the house’s money I am playing with now anyway, made good money on Trump winning the nomination and even more buying Trump wins Utah shares for 50 and selling them for 85.

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  184. @Tiny Duck
    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn't feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won't have to.

    While I don’t have any doubts on how are you paying tribute to Hillary’s laminated poster on daily basis, don’t you think that calling an inflatable doll a partner is far too creepy even for you Tiny D?

    When Trump wins we’ll hook-up your beta weakling with some good ol’ trashy Vladivostok galls; just to show you how Donald is quite Reasonable-in-Chief when it comes to immigration issues.

    Now, please go and change the wig on your …significant other.

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  185. Took a vacation day today to avoid my co-workers. Last night they were talking about Trump supporter violence after his loss–couldn’t stay in the room with them.

    Just woke up to find snorlax’s posts and feel kind of sick to my stomach (haven’t forced myself to look at MSM sites yet). Despite predicting a Clinton win for the last few months, I’ve been hoping Jack Hanson was right.

    Don’t know how my extended family is voting but probably around 70/30 or 80/20 for Clinton (they are midwesterners). Parents probably for Trump or maybe split in a solid blue state. Brother I’m assuming for third party in a swing state.

    The morning sun is revealing a clear bright rainbow. Since it’s already November 9 in Japan, I’m taking this an apology from God for the flood of Clinton support. Here’s hoping I’m wrong…

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  186. @Doug
    Voted for Johnson. Can't stomach Trump's ignorance of basic economics and general disregard for the rule of law.

    Sure, rule of law.

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  187. Kyle says:

    There were tons of anecdotal things reinforcing my biases.
    My gut instinct is hillary wins in a landslide.
    Then again two people I know who absolutely loathe trump are not voting and voting Jill stein.

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  188. vinteuil says:

    First time I ever voted for a major party candidate for president.

    First time I ever voted for a Republican for president.

    I had to drive through about an hour of country back-roads to do it.

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  189. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @SPMoore8
    If Assange has leaks that will put Hillary in jail, why leak them before the election, unless he wants Trump to be president?

    Remember, he sees himself as exposing the corruption of the American political system, he does not see himself as a conservative Republican supporting Trump.

    I just hope he likes the idea of President Kaine.

    On the thesis that "Assange has material that will put Hillary in jail" you can expect that data to be exposed after, not before, the election.

    The Wikileaks Twitter (which seems a bit rogue) threatened to release dirt on Kaine a couple of weeks ago but hasn’t done it yet.

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  190. Mark F. says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    "Voted for Johnson."
     
    Correction: You voted for Clinton.

    If she wins, you own her, Fool.

    Yes, only the two major parties have a divine right to our votes. And how do you know that Clinton wasn’t his second choice? If so, he’s helping Trump. You probably don’t mind liberals voting for Jill Stein, do you?

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  191. Clyde says:

    Florida, N Carolina, Ohio, New Hampshire and Colorado will go Trump and Trump will win. This year the pollsters could not get a good handle on the electorate, this is what they will say in the election post mortems. Then you have the dishonest pollsters who are as bad as the biased media. They deliberately over sample Democrats to come up with polls showing Hillary on top and that she is inevitable. Done to demoralize Trump supporters.

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  192. colm says:
    @SPMoore8
    Yes, I spoke to a guy who does maintenance in our building yesterday and he is convinced that Trump people will riot in the streets if Hillary wins (he's white, BTW). Of course I don't think that's going to happen, but I will not be surprised if there are celebratory riots and undocumented shopping after she wins.

    What does seem clear in this election is that the country is very polarized, and whichever side loses isn't going to stop acting up. However, to the extent that #BLM, LGBTQIA, immigration, etc. etc. were all features of Obama's presidency, they will continue to be a feature of Hillary's as well.

    Since the negatives on Hillary are already high -- about 60%, from what I have seen -- then I expect a lot of people voting for her will register remorse by voting for Republicans in other areas. So while the GOP will probably lose the Senate, it won't lose it by much, and they will probably keep the House.

    The other thing that comes out of this election, aside from polarization, is the rottenness of the political dominant class in general, as well as the main-stream media. A ton of ammunition about both of those points was made clear in this election, and that information isn't going to go away.

    So, assuming Hillary in a blow out -- which is how it is shaping up -- then at least the opposition isn't going to go away.

    It doesn’t matter. The oppositions will be as relevant as Stalin’s ‘opposition’.

    Sailer is moderating my posts away because I correctly pointed out that Taki wants the Clintons in the White House again.

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  193. melendwyr says: • Website
    @SPMoore8
    If Assange has leaks that will put Hillary in jail, why leak them before the election, unless he wants Trump to be president?

    Remember, he sees himself as exposing the corruption of the American political system, he does not see himself as a conservative Republican supporting Trump.

    I just hope he likes the idea of President Kaine.

    On the thesis that "Assange has material that will put Hillary in jail" you can expect that data to be exposed after, not before, the election.

    So your argument is that Assange would want to disgrace the President-Elect, not the mere candidate?

    That’s assuming that she actually wins, which I grant is reasonable enough. If she doesn’t, though, that biding revelation drops in value greatly.

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  194. Lot says:

    Another day, another Richard Spencer interview in the New York Times:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/us/politics/donald-trump-extremist-supporters.html

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    • Replies: @benjaminl
    It's interesting to me that these pieces on "extremists" never mention or cite Steve.

    My interpretation is: the MSM deep down recognizes that Steve's "citizenism" is actually not extremist, but in fact the reasonable moderate alternative to their own extremism.

    And in fact, with the possible exception of that one remark about blacks in New Orleans that gave JPod a hissy fit, it's hard, even with the worst intentions, to find a quote from Steve that will make the Goodwhites gasp in horror.

    On another note, I think Steve is onto something with this idea that the MSM is all about projecting their own feelings of hatred onto their enemies.

    https://twitter.com/rezaaslan/status/795788655289765888
    https://twitter.com/AnnieLowrey/status/794258467901079553

    Note that these people are respectable mainstream credentialed "thought leaders," not random campus SJW radicals.
  195. WhatEvvs says:
    @(((Owen)))

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.
     
    Tiny compared to the damage Dubya already did. There's still a chance to pick a credible patriotic candidate in 2020 when She'll be even more unpopular.

    “Tiny compared to the damage Dubya already did. ”

    She hasn’t taken office yet. What if she gets us into a war with Russia – and China?

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  196. Ivy says:

    California voter, saw the longest lines in a few decades of voting. Too bad our deep blue state electoral votes get wasted, so R voters essentially have the down-ballot items for any influence. One election silver lining is that more people may have thought about long-ago Civics and History lessons and will become more citizenist.

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  197. snorlax says:
    @snorlax
    New numbers, mostly improvements for Trump. Looks like it'll be close:

    FL
    Clinton: 4225249 (51.7%)
    Trump: 3947947 (48.3%)

    IA
    Clinton: 524152 (50.9%)
    Trump: 505385 (49.1%)

    NV
    Clinton: 408495 (50.5%)
    Trump: 401051 (49.5%)

    NH
    Clinton: 204682 (52.0%)
    Trump: 188947 (48.0%)

    OH
    Clinton: 1968075 (50.4%)
    Trump: 1939358 (49.6%)

    PA
    Clinton: 1787755 (51.5%)
    Trump: 1684020 (48.5%)

    WI
    Clinton: 995225 (53.8%)
    Trump: 856464 (46.3%)

    New Slate numbers: http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html?live=true

    FL
    Clinton: 4722116 (51.7%)
    Trump: 4418096 (48.4%)

    IA
    Clinton: 614338 (50.6%)
    Trump: 599045 (49.4%)

    NV
    Clinton: 473173 (50.4%)
    Trump: 465706 (49.6%)

    NH
    Clinton: 272762 (51.3%)
    Trump: 258602 (48.7%)

    OH
    Clinton: 2353327 (50.2%)
    Trump: 2331714 (49.8%)

    PA
    Clinton: 2309924 (51.6%)
    Trump: 2170837 (48.5%)

    WI
    Clinton: 1109900 (53.7%)
    Trump: 957977 (46.4%)

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    • Replies: @Dissident
    By making such posts as these, are you not risking discouraging potential Trump voters from voting?
    , @gbloco
    I assumed this must be some sort of joke but low and behold!!
  198. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @snorlax
    Different numbers on Vice than Slate:

    Colorado
    Clinton: 46 (+2, was +5)
    Trump: 44
    80.3% of projected turnout (was 77.5)

    Florida
    Clinton: 48 (+3, was +4)
    Trump: 45
    83.9% of projected turnout (was 80.6)

    Iowa
    Clinton: 45
    Trump: 46 (+1, unchanged)
    66.5% of projected turnout (was 63.2)

    Nevada
    Clinton: 46 (+1, was +3)
    Trump: 45
    68.8% of projected turnout (was 65.1)

    New Hampshire
    Clinton: 47 (+4, unchanged)
    Trump: 43
    61.9% of projected turnout (was 55.4)

    Ohio
    Clinton: 45
    Trump: 46 (+1, was trailing by 1)
    73.7% of projected turnout (was 69.1)

    Pennsylvania
    Clinton: 48 (+3, was +4)
    Trump: 45
    63.2% of projected turnout (was 57.4)

    Wisconsin
    Clinton: 48 (+5, was +6)
    Trump: 43
    62.0% of projected turnout (was 57.1)

    Stop posting fake Slate numbers!!!

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  199. WhatEvvs says:
    @SPMoore8
    If Assange has leaks that will put Hillary in jail, why leak them before the election, unless he wants Trump to be president?

    Remember, he sees himself as exposing the corruption of the American political system, he does not see himself as a conservative Republican supporting Trump.

    I just hope he likes the idea of President Kaine.

    On the thesis that "Assange has material that will put Hillary in jail" you can expect that data to be exposed after, not before, the election.

    When did Assange say that? And what can he do in the Ecuadorian Embassy, with zero internet access? He’s a prisoner.

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  200. snorlax says:
    @415 reasons
    The term partner can be used by straight people. So please check your privilege, shitlord.

    The alleged partner was referred to as a he.

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  201. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    White non-college men are the first to (partially) wake up to the fact that the democrat party is fucking them. It’s really remarkable how many constituencies the democrat party has sold out in order to keep up mass migration and turn the U.S. into a one party state. The democrats are screwing black people, working class people, greenies et al. with this mass third world immigration. Those groups will come around eventually, but by then it’ll be too late.

    White non-college men were the only ones who could see through the PC on immigration.

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  202. Watching intently north of the border, looks like Trump is doing quite well, as expected, in Kentucky

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  203. Lot says:

    The votecast numbers snorlax is posting seem really dubious.

    However, it is probably over for Trump based on Florida county turnout. Michael McDonald, the leading early vote compiler and UF prof, has this on actual turnout (early plus regular voting):

    FL counties turnout vs. 2012 total at 5:40pm

    Broward +63,145 (+8.3%)

    Duval +10,020 (+2.4%)

    Pinellas +20,175 (+4.4%)

    Obama won Broward’s 507,430 votes by 67-32 in 2012.

    Romney narrowly won Duval and Obama narrowly won Pinellas. Extremely high turnout in general is bad for the GOP, which is why we do best in mid-terms, and turnout this year in FL is way higher already than the entire 2012 turnout.

    All we can hope for now is some extreme shy Tory effect, cause both polls and turnout are looking really bad.

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    • Replies: @Polynikes
    That's the feeling I was getting, but:

    NBC exit poll had Trump doing better than Romney with Latinos and Trump pulling in about 13% of the black vote.

    Also, you would hope the non-suburban white vote would be up more than 2%. Be really narrow, but I think Trump can still pull Florida.
  204. BB753 says:

    Trump leading in Kentucky, Indiana and New Hampshire.

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    • Replies: @Perspective
    Yes, Mitt Romney got 54% of the vote in 2012 in Indiana, right now Trump (still very early) is at 70% of the vote.
  205. I love the smell of burned moneyballer’s overcomb in the late afternoon:

    “Undecideds are MUCH higher than normal. So risk of a polling error — in either direction — is higher than usual.”

    “Undecideeeds” It’s called Monster Vote, “Stupid” !

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    • Replies: @Lot
    Trump winning would be a huge win for Nate Silver. All the other poll trackers are saying Hillary 90-99%, while Silver says 65-70%. They had a nasty twitterwar attacking Silver for saying Trump has a decent chance still.
  206. WhatEvvs says:
    @anony-mouse
    Assange has said he's got info that will definitely put Clinton in jail.

    Is it just me or isn't he cutting things a bit close.

    He never said that.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/will-a-wikileaks-email-get-clinton-imprisoned.html

    “Assange did not make that claim in that interview, and while it’s hard to prove the total nonexistence of a two-word quote, there’s no clear evidence he uttered that phrase in an interview at all.”

    Assange thinks Hillary is indictment worthy, but specifically says that Lynch will never indict her.

    I wish it were true, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

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  207. @Bill
    Many local US TV stations have live streams. For example, here is a list of NBC stations. I doubt all of them have free live streams, but some do.

    ABC News has a free live stream here.
    CBS News has a free live stream here.

    Here is a CNET article on where to get streams.

    Thanks for the links – I will check them out. I am looking for something with a bit of balance, which is impossible to find here in Ireland on the national broadcaster. I just switched the TV off in disgust after the ‘debate’ I was watching involved the Irish presenter and four New York Times staff. Unbelievable.

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  208. @hhsiii
    My wife took our 7-year-old daughter at 6:00 a.m. It was my wife's first at age 34, since she moved here at 18 from Latvia and just became a citizen last year. It took her 50 minutes. I went at 8:00 and took over an hour. This is on the Upper East Side in NYC. I've never seen lines like this here. It never took me longer than 10 minutes in over 30 years of voting here. My first presidential vote was in '84 in North Carolina. My vote would be more consequential there I imagine. Nine judges on the ballot for 9 slots. All Dems. I just wrote in a bunch of names. Although I don't know if Steve qualifies. Or if elected would serve.

    How much does a New York judgeship pay?

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  209. Lot says:

    Just did my own update. Broward turnout now almost +10%. Okaloosa Co, one of Romney’s best counties (he won in 70k to 24k) , is more like +5%.

    Kind of strange that Florida reports the number of people who vote by party with frequent election day updates.

    Every county I’ve checked has the same chart on its website. For instance:

    http://www.govote-okaloosa.com/

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  210. keypusher says:

    Steve: New York State Supreme Court (that’s what they call the top trial court) justices made $174,000/yr. in 2015, but it’s going up.

    Federal judges make $203,000.

    http://www.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/12/state_judge_salaries_would_near_200000_under_new_plan_a_40_hike_since_2011.html

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  211. Dissident says:
    @snorlax
    New Slate numbers: http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html?live=true

    FL
    Clinton: 4722116 (51.7%)
    Trump: 4418096 (48.4%)

    IA
    Clinton: 614338 (50.6%)
    Trump: 599045 (49.4%)

    NV
    Clinton: 473173 (50.4%)
    Trump: 465706 (49.6%)

    NH
    Clinton: 272762 (51.3%)
    Trump: 258602 (48.7%)

    OH
    Clinton: 2353327 (50.2%)
    Trump: 2331714 (49.8%)

    PA
    Clinton: 2309924 (51.6%)
    Trump: 2170837 (48.5%)

    WI
    Clinton: 1109900 (53.7%)
    Trump: 957977 (46.4%)

    By making such posts as these, are you not risking discouraging potential Trump voters from voting?

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    • Replies: @snorlax
    To be clear, go vote for Trump. If they tell you the polls have closed, call up the Clinton campaign and say your vote is being suppressed by the Rethuglicans. Then vote for Trump.
  212. Lot says:
    @bored identity
    I love the smell of burned moneyballer's overcomb in the late afternoon:


    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/796016007127138304



    "Undecideds are MUCH higher than normal. So risk of a polling error -- in either direction -- is higher than usual."

    "Undecideeeds" It's called Monster Vote, "Stupid" !

     

    Trump winning would be a huge win for Nate Silver. All the other poll trackers are saying Hillary 90-99%, while Silver says 65-70%. They had a nasty twitterwar attacking Silver for saying Trump has a decent chance still.

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  213. @Emmanuel Goldstein
    San Francisco voter. Came in to a local school with a pre filled ballot. Two militant lesbians directed me to seal the ballot in the envelope that came with it , put a date and drop it in a box (I said I could go into a booth and copy my ballot for security). No ID check, no voter registration check. I have an accent, first time voter (US citizen for 14 years).

    So anyone could print up identical ballots and have a random person put them in?

    So no record that you actually voted? You’d think that both partys would be interested in that information. Perhaps the Republicans in San Francisco think it’s hopeless.

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  214. (Tried to post this five hours ago)

    Ok, Steve and other fellow Sailerites; don’t be shy-errāre hūmānum est.

    What is gonna be?

    Are we going to have America with a suffix , or the dreaded and literal prefix is our eternal destiny;

    Co-Country or Country-Co. ?

    Bored identity says @ November 8, 1:04 EST :

    “Trump WILL BE the 45th, with election being disputed in at least one state.”

    Your turn.

    http://www.arewethere.yt/NO-CO-COUNTRY-FOR-OLD-MAN/53992.htm

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  215. Polynikes says:
    @Lot
    The votecast numbers snorlax is posting seem really dubious.

    However, it is probably over for Trump based on Florida county turnout. Michael McDonald, the leading early vote compiler and UF prof, has this on actual turnout (early plus regular voting):

    FL counties turnout vs. 2012 total at 5:40pm

    Broward +63,145 (+8.3%)

    Duval +10,020 (+2.4%)

    Pinellas +20,175 (+4.4%)

    Obama won Broward's 507,430 votes by 67-32 in 2012.

    Romney narrowly won Duval and Obama narrowly won Pinellas. Extremely high turnout in general is bad for the GOP, which is why we do best in mid-terms, and turnout this year in FL is way higher already than the entire 2012 turnout.

    All we can hope for now is some extreme shy Tory effect, cause both polls and turnout are looking really bad.

    That’s the feeling I was getting, but:

    NBC exit poll had Trump doing better than Romney with Latinos and Trump pulling in about 13% of the black vote.

    Also, you would hope the non-suburban white vote would be up more than 2%. Be really narrow, but I think Trump can still pull Florida.

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  216. @BB753
    Trump leading in Kentucky, Indiana and New Hampshire.

    Yes, Mitt Romney got 54% of the vote in 2012 in Indiana, right now Trump (still very early) is at 70% of the vote.

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  217. snorlax says:
    @Dissident
    By making such posts as these, are you not risking discouraging potential Trump voters from voting?

    To be clear, go vote for Trump. If they tell you the polls have closed, call up the Clinton campaign and say your vote is being suppressed by the Rethuglicans. Then vote for Trump.

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  218. @Tiny Duck
    Cast my vote for Hillary Clinton an hour ago. Didn't feel good as I did when I voted for President Obama twice but knowing that white supremacy is about to dealt a body blow is a pretty good feeling.

    Me and my partner were talking yesterday about how his niece (born in 2009) has never known a white man as president. Hopefully, she won't have to.

    Tiny Duck is likely one of those bots mentioned here:

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/11/07/social-media-bots-working-to-influence-u-s-election/

    I’ve seen it posting the same crap on multiple blogs.

    Even less intelligent than Eliza.

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  219. @(((Owen)))

    Hellary will have not only legalized all the illegals already in the U.S. (who’s going to stop her? A Republican congress?) she’ll have allowed millions more in — a much larger proportion of which will be voting in 2020 than this time around.
     
    Only citizens can vote. It takes at least a decade for an amnesty to kick in at the polls, so Hillary can't do much about her own re-election. The electoral disaster today, like the illegal immigration problem in general, results from the Reagan amnesty where True Conservative Republicans wanted to create cheap labor and punish working Americans and destroy unions and didn't care about the consequences for the nation.

    Actually, the 1917 absorption of Puerto Rico as full citizens is Trump's biggest challenge today. They've ruined their own territory with mismanagement and half the population has escaped to Florida where they're voting to run it just like they ran Puerto Rico.

    “Only citizens can vote.” No. Only citizens can vote legally.

    It is true that demographic replacement/electing a new people started before Obama or Hillary. But the point is that if Hillary is elected it will get even worse. If the Republicans keep the Senate and the House, they will continue to lack either the will or the means or both to do anything about it.

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  220. @anonn
    Have you on the right been able to identify any examples of "illegals voting"? Any at all? Why the focus on something that happens almost never, and likely hasn't ever altered any election's result? If you're mad about immigration changing the nature of the country's electorate, both Hil and Don promise to let in tens of millions of legal immigrants to dilute your vote, overwhelm public services, and undercut your wages.

    Actually voter fraud by illegals has been documented.

    And, in any case, I consider anchor babies illegals, too.

    As for legal immigration, I’m well aware of the issues there, thanks.

    If you think, however, there’ll be as many migrants coming into the United States under Donald Trump as there will be under Hillary Clinton, you’re either ignorant or dishonest. Take your choice.

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    • Replies: @NOTA
    There are at least two other options: you don't think Trump means what he says about immigration, or you don't think he will be successful in restricting immigration.
  221. @Michaeloh
    Nah. Nothing could be more favorable to the formation of a populist/nationalist/white racial awakening than 4-8 more years of open borders, section 8 racists coming to your hood, BLM, Django Unchained, racial discrimination vs whites in employment and education aka Affirmative Action and disparate impact, judicial Furhrer Directives, Obamacare, decreasing wages and increasing housing costs, etc. Call it the Hate Whitey Mindf*ck and nobody hates whitey like the Democrats. Eventually even naive weaklings like Ryan will wake up. It is, unfortunately, the only way white people learn.

    Well, I’d love to see you proved right.

    That said, I’d prefer a Trump victory.

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  222. Svigor says:

    Trump winning would be a huge win for Nate Silver. All the other poll trackers are saying Hillary 90-99%, while Silver says 65-70%. They had a nasty twitterwar attacking Silver for saying Trump has a decent chance still.

    Why get mad? Unless the point is not to inform the public, but to manipulate it.

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  223. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @DWright
    Voting went smoothly here in Southeastern Michigan.
    One person behind me wanted a ballot to take home to her husband because he wasn't notified by mail. (Guess which ethnic group)

    IDs required, two check points before voting. About all we can hope.

    In Macomb County Michigan in early afternoon, I was voter #535. No wait, but careful ID check. Good!
    DJT was here in Sterling Heights on Sunday to an enthusiastic crowd. He’ll carry outstate Michigan, but the key will be Oakland County. It’s too close too call now.

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  224. Lot says:

    Clinton outperforming Obama in Fayette Co, KY by 9 points with 80% in.

    Rand Paul also underperforming. No real risk of Dems winning either statewide contest in KY of course.

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  225. Not Raul says:
    @peterike

    There’s still a chance to pick a credible patriotic candidate in 2020 when She’ll be even more unpopular

     

    Lol! Like who? Muh Ted Crooze? Please. Just another Goldman Sachs flunky, except he waves around a Bible in one hand and The Constitution in the other to sucker the rubes.

    >>There’s still a chance to pick a credible patriotic candidate in 2020 when She’ll be even more unpopular<

    Like who? <

    Duncan D. Hunter or Jeff Sessions?

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  226. Hillary will be celebrating tonight less than a one-hour walk from Trump’s home.

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  227. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “This is not one of the times to rest,” Trevor Noah said, in his final appeal. “And the most important reason I say that to you is because the people on Donald Trump’s side are really, really enthusiastic voters. He has the KKK voting for him. Like, if ever there was a reason to vote, it’s because on the other side the KKK sees an opportunity to come back into the mainstream. That is the scariest shit I have ever come across in my life.” The host allowed himself one joke when he added, “There’s no K in complacent.”

    Not only memes becoming real: in 2016, metaphors are being literalized. We had a socialist road end in actual serfdom in Venezuela, while Steve’s “KKKrazy Glue” holding the Dem coalition together is now literally about the KKK. That part of the phrase was just supposed to refer to simmering resentment of whites, not actual fear of the Klu Klux Klan.

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    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Trevor Noah is from South Africa, where if they don't like you, they put a necklace around your neck consisting of a tire, fill the void with gasoline, and set you on fire, but this is the "scariest shit I have ever come across in my life."

    Just go away.
  228. gbloco says:
    @snorlax
    New Slate numbers: http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html?live=true

    FL
    Clinton: 4722116 (51.7%)
    Trump: 4418096 (48.4%)

    IA
    Clinton: 614338 (50.6%)
    Trump: 599045 (49.4%)

    NV
    Clinton: 473173 (50.4%)
    Trump: 465706 (49.6%)

    NH
    Clinton: 272762 (51.3%)
    Trump: 258602 (48.7%)

    OH
    Clinton: 2353327 (50.2%)
    Trump: 2331714 (49.8%)

    PA
    Clinton: 2309924 (51.6%)
    Trump: 2170837 (48.5%)

    WI
    Clinton: 1109900 (53.7%)
    Trump: 957977 (46.4%)

    I assumed this must be some sort of joke but low and behold!!

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  229. @SPMoore8
    If Assange has leaks that will put Hillary in jail, why leak them before the election, unless he wants Trump to be president?

    Remember, he sees himself as exposing the corruption of the American political system, he does not see himself as a conservative Republican supporting Trump.

    I just hope he likes the idea of President Kaine.

    On the thesis that "Assange has material that will put Hillary in jail" you can expect that data to be exposed after, not before, the election.

    It’s possible that we’ve (I’ve?) been too naive about Assange in assuming he is driven purely by principle.

    In the recent RT interview with him, he was asked directly if was trying to get Trump elected. He answered(at 13:05) that Trump “would not be permitted” to win because the “establishment” is united against him. At first, I took this to be speculation, but perhaps it represented some insider information. It appears that the Swedish are now considering reversing their criminal charges/extradition threats:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecuador-sweden-assange-idUSKBN1320UV

    Why would that be? And why at this time?

    Maybe the way the documents have been trickling out of WikiLeaks in bits with promises of more to come as well as the threats that haven’t been followed through on (such as releases about Kaine) represent an ongoing negotiation between Assange and some figures in his “establishment”. The deal? He doesn’t release damning info before the election, and he gets to return to his home and family.

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    • Replies: @anonguy

    Maybe the way the documents have been trickling out of WikiLeaks in bits with promises of more to come as well as the threats that haven’t been followed through on (such as releases about Kaine) represent an ongoing negotiation between Assange and some figures in his “establishment”.
     
    Definitely has that character the only question is who is negotiating with whom and about what.
  230. @dc.sunsets
    What is a lot of SoCal worth if the water gets cut off?

    To humans? Not much. To scorpions, a great deal.

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  231. J1234 says:

    Polls were crowded when I voted just before noon today. More crowded than I’ve ever seen them before. I live in a midwestern city.

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  232. @Yak-15
    Her shrill, northern Chicagoan, folk-enhanced diction reminds me of all the scolding teachers I had growing up. I leave the room whenever she is speaking on television.

    As bad as Hillary is to listen to, Elizabeth Warren is worse. When Warren starts yelling she sounds overwrought, like she is struggling not to burst into tears.

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    • Replies: @Yak-15
    It must be the 500 years of ethnically cleansing Native Americans welling up inside of her.
  233. Thea says:
    @(((Owen)))

    expect a Prop 13 repeal in the next few election cycles. It will cause real estate values to implode as home buyers are forced to fold a hefty property tax into their monthly housing budget. If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners, but leaving them stuck in houses they can’t sell. Eventually, large tracts of single family homes will be bulldozed to build garden apartments.
     
    Gosh I hope so. Alta California as it is is a dystopian nightmare of unaffordable family formation with a small upper crust of millionaires just scraping by. Borrowing policies from Madrid or Mexico City or Buenos Aires about dense city construction, affordable living, rational tax policy, public transit networks, public infrastructure projects, and reducing government corruption would really improve Alta California.

    It's amazing the white Americans managed to screw it up so badly that even they can't afford to live there and that simultaneously foreigners have to take it over for them. Even Latin American governance is better than that. You don't see Mexico welcoming waves of bloody MS-13 illegal immigrant gangsters from El Salvador while their own kids can't buy a home. Working class Mexicans don't have to put off having kids until they're forty because their parents' generation outlawed affordable housing while meanwhile Koreans were moving in with whole apartment complexes where nobody speaks Spanish.

    Argentina, despite being poor, welcomed waves of Paraguayans & Bolivians. The set up squatter camps in the parks once built by Peron. BA is becoming Calcutta.

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  234. @(((Owen)))

    expect a Prop 13 repeal in the next few election cycles. It will cause real estate values to implode as home buyers are forced to fold a hefty property tax into their monthly housing budget. If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners, but leaving them stuck in houses they can’t sell. Eventually, large tracts of single family homes will be bulldozed to build garden apartments.
     
    Gosh I hope so. Alta California as it is is a dystopian nightmare of unaffordable family formation with a small upper crust of millionaires just scraping by. Borrowing policies from Madrid or Mexico City or Buenos Aires about dense city construction, affordable living, rational tax policy, public transit networks, public infrastructure projects, and reducing government corruption would really improve Alta California.

    It's amazing the white Americans managed to screw it up so badly that even they can't afford to live there and that simultaneously foreigners have to take it over for them. Even Latin American governance is better than that. You don't see Mexico welcoming waves of bloody MS-13 illegal immigrant gangsters from El Salvador while their own kids can't buy a home. Working class Mexicans don't have to put off having kids until they're forty because their parents' generation outlawed affordable housing while meanwhile Koreans were moving in with whole apartment complexes where nobody speaks Spanish.

    “You don’t see Mexico welcoming waves of bloody MS-13 illegal immigrant gangsters from El Salvador while their own kids can’t buy a home.”

    Yeah, but their kids weren’t the Boomers. The “Greatest” generation saw what they had spawned, couldn’t undo it, so just decided to price them out and enjoy the decline.

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  235. anonguy says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    It's possible that we've (I've?) been too naive about Assange in assuming he is driven purely by principle.

    In the recent RT interview with him, he was asked directly if was trying to get Trump elected. He answered(at 13:05) that Trump "would not be permitted" to win because the "establishment" is united against him. At first, I took this to be speculation, but perhaps it represented some insider information. It appears that the Swedish are now considering reversing their criminal charges/extradition threats:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecuador-sweden-assange-idUSKBN1320UV

    Why would that be? And why at this time?

    Maybe the way the documents have been trickling out of WikiLeaks in bits with promises of more to come as well as the threats that haven't been followed through on (such as releases about Kaine) represent an ongoing negotiation between Assange and some figures in his "establishment". The deal? He doesn't release damning info before the election, and he gets to return to his home and family.

    Maybe the way the documents have been trickling out of WikiLeaks in bits with promises of more to come as well as the threats that haven’t been followed through on (such as releases about Kaine) represent an ongoing negotiation between Assange and some figures in his “establishment”.

    Definitely has that character the only question is who is negotiating with whom and about what.

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  236. @Sammler
    Voted just before 7 am (in NY exurbs, so just going through the motions). Polling place was definitely busier than 2012; people had trouble parking even that early.

    Did you know the Spanish for "vote" is "vote"?

    Spanish vote is the formal (corresponding to usted) imperative of the verb votar: (you) vote! As a noun, vote is voto.

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  237. Hodag says:
    @Cabrini Green Mommy
    But your vote still counts as a data point in support of Trump/nationalism/law&order, etc. It's extremely valuable information for local representatives. I want my Democratic reps to know that they have constituents that disapprove of their positions on immigration. I want the Illinois Republican Party to know that I voted for Trump but not for Mark Kirk.

    The Cabrini Green polling station was staffed by fat and jolly black ladies whose dialect is incomprehensible to me. But they were super sweet to my 15-month-old daughter, so I was inclined to like them.

    Nothing but city workers in my Old Irving precinct. White dudes, and a thirty year old SWPL looking woman.

    Very efficient.

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  238. gregor says:
    @Doug
    Voted for Johnson. Can't stomach Trump's ignorance of basic economics and general disregard for the rule of law.

    Minorities block vote for big government democrats. Do you really think laissez faire economics will have much of a future in minority-majority America? Libertarians are shooting themselves in the foot with their immigration stance.

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    • Replies: @Sunbeam
    "Minorities block vote for big government democrats. Do you really think laissez faire economics will have much of a future in minority-majority America? Libertarians are shooting themselves in the foot with their immigration stance."

    Okay, but consider this: If Trump loses, why not embrace the whole thing? I mean the whole pork angle.

    Imagine a coalition of say Southern white pols allying with the CBC to get as much pork as they can get. No apologies, no regrets. Just sheer naked opportunism - with the usual crap spouted to justify things.

    As far as fiscal responsibility goes? Who cares. Lost cause anyway. Let the whole thing burn, and get what can be gotten.

    Oh yeah, and I think white Americans should start to emulate Italians, and regard tax evasion as a moral virtue to be engaged in whenever possible.

  239. Lot says:
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    Total radio silence from national media, which means it's likely a NAM/Muslim/leftist.
  240. Berty says:

    Ever notice how it’s always snorlax or Lot doing the concern trolling?

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  241. Lot says:

    First bit of good news out of Florida.

    Rural north Florida Franklin Co is 100% in. Trump outperformed Romney by 700 votes and 6 points.

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  242. Lot says:

    In the several rural KY counties that are 100% reported, Trump is running about a net 12 points ahead of Romney with much higher turnout.

    Given that nobody has really put a lot of money into turnout in KY this year, this points to poor and rural whites being very motivated to vote Trump.

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  243. SPMoore8 says:
    @anonymous

    “This is not one of the times to rest,” Trevor Noah said, in his final appeal. “And the most important reason I say that to you is because the people on Donald Trump’s side are really, really enthusiastic voters. He has the KKK voting for him. Like, if ever there was a reason to vote, it’s because on the other side the KKK sees an opportunity to come back into the mainstream. That is the scariest shit I have ever come across in my life.” The host allowed himself one joke when he added, “There’s no K in complacent.”
     
    Not only memes becoming real: in 2016, metaphors are being literalized. We had a socialist road end in actual serfdom in Venezuela, while Steve's "KKKrazy Glue" holding the Dem coalition together is now literally about the KKK. That part of the phrase was just supposed to refer to simmering resentment of whites, not actual fear of the Klu Klux Klan.

    Trevor Noah is from South Africa, where if they don’t like you, they put a necklace around your neck consisting of a tire, fill the void with gasoline, and set you on fire, but this is the “scariest shit I have ever come across in my life.”

    Just go away.

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    • Agree: PV van der Byl
    • Replies: @Anonym
    It's all who-whom. It ain't scary if you're doing the necklacing.

    On another note, what is the comment record here Steve? I would expect a post around this time, possibly this one, will be the one that breaks the record.

  244. @anonymous
    My wife voted Hillary (we voted early by mail). She now wishes she had voted for Trump as I did.
    In Austin TX i walked down to the new City Hall in our new downtown just to see. This was around 10:30am and there was a trickle of voters, a waiting time of just a few minutes. No minorities. No ID required.

    I’m curious what her reasoning was if she changed her mind after the fact.

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  245. donut says:

    I don’t know if this is for real or not because the right lies as much as the left but anyway for what it’s worth :

    http://pr0gramm.com/new/rigged/1598400

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  246. @bored identity
    Billboards of the past or your children's regular present?


    https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/vota.jpg?w=1024&h=768

    https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/vota.jpg?w=1024&h=768

    The verb “to vote” is “votar”, and the imperative form is “!vote!”, not “!vota!”. Right?

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    • Replies: @slumber_j
    ¡Correctamundo!
    , @for-the-record
    “vota” is the informal imperative (corresponding to ), “vote” is the formal imperative (corresponding to usted). So to friends you would say “!vota!”, to strangers “!vote!”

    Spanish-speakers from different countries use these differently: in Spain has (post-Franco) become very common, even with relative strangers (including ads in print and television); in most Latin American countries (I think) strangers are still usted.
    , @bored identity
    How do you say in Spanish: " Who gives a... sexual realationship?"
  247. Lot says:

    Citrus County FL is the largest Florida county to come in 100% so far. Trump’s margin is 16k votes higher than Romney’s.

    So far this election is looking super-polarized, with Dem counties going much harder Dem and GOP counties going harder GOP than in 2012.

    Early results coming out of Orange and Broward are scary.

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    • Replies: @Perspective
    Results, so far, are not looking so good for Trump in North Carolina and Ohio either
    , @for-the-record
    At 7:52 pm, the Florida vote was

    Trump 3,983,244 48.5%
    Clinton 3,983,216 48.5%

    A difference of 28 votes out of nearly 8 million!
  248. snorlax says:
    @Lot
    Active shooter near polling place in Azusa, CA.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-azusa-shooting-injuries-20161108-story.html

    Total radio silence from national media, which means it’s likely a NAM/Muslim/leftist.

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  249. NOTA says:
    @Jack D
    Could the President be white if he was gay or tranny? Caitlyn Jenner for President!

    Rachel Doezal would make a great running mate for Kaitlin Jenner.

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    • Replies: @Auntie Analogue
    My dear NOTA and Jack D, Caitlyn Jenner is a Republican and a strong supporter of Mr. Trump, which would seem to make it rather unlikely that Rachel Dolezal would consent to be Jenner's running mate.
  250. Saw a bunch of “I’m with her”/”I voted” sticker combos around the CU Boulder campus today. No surprise there, except for how many “men” were wearing them. Got me thinking, though, about what a disappointing first voting experience Hillary must be. At least 8 years ago first-time voters got to be part of the romance that was electing the first black president.

    I get the feeling even feminists recognize a “first female president” who’s an ex-first lady is going to have an asterisk by her name.

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  251. @Connecticut Famer
    Not as many people as I expected this (mid) morning. Fairfield County (CT) is a liberal stronghold with lots of big money status-quo types living in 2-3 acre zoning neighborhoods on the one hand and brainwashed minorities on the other. All will vote for Nurse Ratched. One of the two groups will benefit. Take a wild guess which one.

    A great number of good thinkers voted early. That’s what smart people do.

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  252. slumber_j says:
    @hhsiii
    My wife took our 7-year-old daughter at 6:00 a.m. It was my wife's first at age 34, since she moved here at 18 from Latvia and just became a citizen last year. It took her 50 minutes. I went at 8:00 and took over an hour. This is on the Upper East Side in NYC. I've never seen lines like this here. It never took me longer than 10 minutes in over 30 years of voting here. My first presidential vote was in '84 in North Carolina. My vote would be more consequential there I imagine. Nine judges on the ballot for 9 slots. All Dems. I just wrote in a bunch of names. Although I don't know if Steve qualifies. Or if elected would serve.

    Yeah, there were very long lines on the UES first thing this morning. But then when I went to my polling place (Robt. Wagner Middle School, 75th bet. Lex. & Third) a little before 2pm, there was no line whatsoever: I waltzed out of there in 10 minutes.

    Last time, there were tremendous lines literally all day long. I don’t know whether this means some HRC voters stayed home or not.

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    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    I voted at the same place around 10:30am. A little wait but not too long. The longest lines seemed to have been around 7:15 to 8:45.
  253. Trump is getting smashed on Sportsbet. Went from $4.4 overnight to $8 and in space of 5 minutes now at $10!

    Clinton is $1.10.

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    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    Trump's come storming back to $5.70! Has the rail run rounding the bend! Nearly time to get out the whip for the run home, go you good thing!!
  254. @Lot
    Citrus County FL is the largest Florida county to come in 100% so far. Trump's margin is 16k votes higher than Romney's.

    So far this election is looking super-polarized, with Dem counties going much harder Dem and GOP counties going harder GOP than in 2012.

    Early results coming out of Orange and Broward are scary.

    Results, so far, are not looking so good for Trump in North Carolina and Ohio either

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  255. slumber_j says:
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/vota.jpg?w=1024&h=768

    The verb "to vote" is "votar", and the imperative form is "!vote!", not "!vota!". Right?

    ¡Correctamundo!

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  256. Sunbeam says:
    @gregor
    Minorities block vote for big government democrats. Do you really think laissez faire economics will have much of a future in minority-majority America? Libertarians are shooting themselves in the foot with their immigration stance.

    “Minorities block vote for big government democrats. Do you really think laissez faire economics will have much of a future in minority-majority America? Libertarians are shooting themselves in the foot with their immigration stance.”

    Okay, but consider this: If Trump loses, why not embrace the whole thing? I mean the whole pork angle.

    Imagine a coalition of say Southern white pols allying with the CBC to get as much pork as they can get. No apologies, no regrets. Just sheer naked opportunism – with the usual crap spouted to justify things.

    As far as fiscal responsibility goes? Who cares. Lost cause anyway. Let the whole thing burn, and get what can be gotten.

    Oh yeah, and I think white Americans should start to emulate Italians, and regard tax evasion as a moral virtue to be engaged in whenever possible.

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  257. NOTA says:
    @Mikey Darmody
    Really, you just said, "If the Shy Trump Voter Theory is a myth, then the Shy Trump Voter Theory is a myth". You are a jabroni.

    The first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club!

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  258. NOTA says:
    @anony-mouse
    Assange has said he's got info that will definitely put Clinton in jail.

    Is it just me or isn't he cutting things a bit close.

    If Assange had something that would put Hillary in prison, he would have published it by now.

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    Maybe Assange's "Fix is in for Hillary" information led him to hold back some killer disclosures to get her impeached. That could be his drone response. Hope springs eternal.
  259. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/vota.jpg?w=1024&h=768

    The verb "to vote" is "votar", and the imperative form is "!vote!", not "!vota!". Right?

    “vota” is the informal imperative (corresponding to ), “vote” is the formal imperative (corresponding to usted). So to friends you would say “!vota!”, to strangers “!vote!”

    Spanish-speakers from different countries use these differently: in Spain has (post-Franco) become very common, even with relative strangers (including ads in print and television); in most Latin American countries (I think) strangers are still usted.

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  260. @Pat Hannagan
    Trump is getting smashed on Sportsbet. Went from $4.4 overnight to $8 and in space of 5 minutes now at $10!

    Clinton is $1.10.

    Trump’s come storming back to $5.70! Has the rail run rounding the bend! Nearly time to get out the whip for the run home, go you good thing!!

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    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    Neck and neck last 600 down the straight, 2016 Melbourne Cup all over again!

    Trump now in to $2.26. Clinton out to $1.59.
  261. Trump up by a lot in FL and VA. Not surprised to log in here and see a lot of cuck defeatism because it’s not a 50 state sweep or something.

    What will you CTR shills do after the election?

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  262. NOTA says:
    @celt darnell
    Actually voter fraud by illegals has been documented.

    And, in any case, I consider anchor babies illegals, too.

    As for legal immigration, I'm well aware of the issues there, thanks.

    If you think, however, there'll be as many migrants coming into the United States under Donald Trump as there will be under Hillary Clinton, you're either ignorant or dishonest. Take your choice.

    There are at least two other options: you don’t think Trump means what he says about immigration, or you don’t think he will be successful in restricting immigration.

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    • Replies: @celt darnell
    You can't outpander the Evil Party.

    Even if Trump were totally lying or totally incompetent, no matter how many immigrants he let in, Ratched would let in twice as many.
  263. @slumber_j
    Yeah, there were very long lines on the UES first thing this morning. But then when I went to my polling place (Robt. Wagner Middle School, 75th bet. Lex. & Third) a little before 2pm, there was no line whatsoever: I waltzed out of there in 10 minutes.

    Last time, there were tremendous lines literally all day long. I don't know whether this means some HRC voters stayed home or not.

    I voted at the same place around 10:30am. A little wait but not too long. The longest lines seemed to have been around 7:15 to 8:45.

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  264. @Lot
    Citrus County FL is the largest Florida county to come in 100% so far. Trump's margin is 16k votes higher than Romney's.

    So far this election is looking super-polarized, with Dem counties going much harder Dem and GOP counties going harder GOP than in 2012.

    Early results coming out of Orange and Broward are scary.

    At 7:52 pm, the Florida vote was

    Trump 3,983,244 48.5%
    Clinton 3,983,216 48.5%

    A difference of 28 votes out of nearly 8 million!

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  265. @hhsiii
    My wife took our 7-year-old daughter at 6:00 a.m. It was my wife's first at age 34, since she moved here at 18 from Latvia and just became a citizen last year. It took her 50 minutes. I went at 8:00 and took over an hour. This is on the Upper East Side in NYC. I've never seen lines like this here. It never took me longer than 10 minutes in over 30 years of voting here. My first presidential vote was in '84 in North Carolina. My vote would be more consequential there I imagine. Nine judges on the ballot for 9 slots. All Dems. I just wrote in a bunch of names. Although I don't know if Steve qualifies. Or if elected would serve.

    I vote on 75th Street between 3rd and 2nd. It was crowded before 9am but the lines shortened significantly after that.

    The waiting times at the same place in 2012 were far longer.

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  266. Anonym says:
    @SPMoore8
    Trevor Noah is from South Africa, where if they don't like you, they put a necklace around your neck consisting of a tire, fill the void with gasoline, and set you on fire, but this is the "scariest shit I have ever come across in my life."

    Just go away.

    It’s all who-whom. It ain’t scary if you’re doing the necklacing.

    On another note, what is the comment record here Steve? I would expect a post around this time, possibly this one, will be the one that breaks the record.

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  267. @27 year old
    Here in my not Pittsburgh, not Philadelphia city in PA, we got to the polling place about 5 mins before it opened and there was already a 30+ person line. Total wait time was a little over 20 mins. Nobody wearing red, but then again I wasn't either.

    Stopped by my polling place again at 8pm (closing time) expecting to see a line still out the door. But there was no line and looking in the windows there was nobody there voting. And the poll workers were packing up. Surprising. We’ll see.

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  268. @NOTA
    There are at least two other options: you don't think Trump means what he says about immigration, or you don't think he will be successful in restricting immigration.

    You can’t outpander the Evil Party.

    Even if Trump were totally lying or totally incompetent, no matter how many immigrants he let in, Ratched would let in twice as many.

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  269. SPMoore8 says:

    If anyone has any data that Trump is exceeding poll expectations anywhere, please post. Otherwise this is just a tease. But I will be glad if it’s close.

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  270. Ivy says:
    @NOTA
    If Assange had something that would put Hillary in prison, he would have published it by now.

    Maybe Assange’s “Fix is in for Hillary” information led him to hold back some killer disclosures to get her impeached. That could be his drone response. Hope springs eternal.

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  271. Lot says:

    A bunch of people got spooked at the early vote results in NC, taking Trump down to 15c on predict it. I am now up to 1500 Trump wins NC shares.

    Trump up two points in the ACTUAL results from the NC BoE:

    http://er.ncsbe.gov/?election_dt=11/08/2016&county_id=0&office=FED&contest=1001

    Multiple news sites with old data reporting him down 3.

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  272. A lot of votes in Florida — with 74% of precincts counted Trump (up by 113,000) already has more votes than Obama in 2012 (or 2008), Hillary more than Romney (or McCain).

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  273. donut says:

    I’m curious with people like Sailer for our leaders will we ever have the courage to attack our enemies with anything other than an income producing keyboard ?

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    • Replies: @Celine's Ghost
    Each man should be his own leader... The street is always waiting; the question is, what are YOU waiting for, street-fighting cruller man?
  274. The corporate media hacks are worrisomely chipper and yet tranquil. Do they know the fix is in for a Hill-dog steal?

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  275. @Bicycle
    Steve, a recurring theme I hear about undecided voters is that while they dislike both Trump and Hillary they still like Obama and that because of this they will either vote Hillary, vote third party, or stay home. On the other hand conventional wisdom says undecided voters break late against the incumbent party. Just about every poll this cycle has had anywhere from 5-12% of voters undecided. How do you think they will go?

    The joke among my son and his 18 year old friends who are first time voters is to answer with an enthusiastic and boisterous Gary Johnson 2016! followed by Straight ticket Libertarian! which is code for I am voting against Hillary and for Trump, but I am not letting you screw me!

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  276. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    As of right now ~9pm EST DC is giving a result of 93% for Hillary. This is far and away the highest pct for any candidate, especially for Hillary. No state is giving such a highly lopsided result. That really says something about the elite support for the establishment candidate.

    I’m really pulling for Trump, he’s clearly the people’s choice, but I fear they will rig this like they’ve done everything else.

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  277. ken says:

    Is Trump about to take this damn thing?!!!

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    Trump is up in FL, OH, NC, VA, and PA right now.

    Starting to see the leftist freakout begin from the punditry.
  278. benjaminl says:
    @Lot
    Another day, another Richard Spencer interview in the New York Times:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/us/politics/donald-trump-extremist-supporters.html

    It’s interesting to me that these pieces on “extremists” never mention or cite Steve.

    My interpretation is: the MSM deep down recognizes that Steve’s “citizenism” is actually not extremist, but in fact the reasonable moderate alternative to their own extremism.

    And in fact, with the possible exception of that one remark about blacks in New Orleans that gave JPod a hissy fit, it’s hard, even with the worst intentions, to find a quote from Steve that will make the Goodwhites gasp in horror.

    On another note, I think Steve is onto something with this idea that the MSM is all about projecting their own feelings of hatred onto their enemies.

    Note that these people are respectable mainstream credentialed “thought leaders,” not random campus SJW radicals.

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    • Replies: @Thea
    Depressing that they are paid for their hatred.

    I suspect our host chooses his words with more care than those in the msm can understand, more than even we give him credit for.
  279. @donut
    I'm curious with people like Sailer for our leaders will we ever have the courage to attack our enemies with anything other than an income producing keyboard ?

    Each man should be his own leader… The street is always waiting; the question is, what are YOU waiting for, street-fighting cruller man?

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  280. @NOTA
    Rachel Doezal would make a great running mate for Kaitlin Jenner.

    My dear NOTA and Jack D, Caitlyn Jenner is a Republican and a strong supporter of Mr. Trump, which would seem to make it rather unlikely that Rachel Dolezal would consent to be Jenner’s running mate.

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  281. @JimB
    Actually, I don't give a fig about the porn industry, and the thought of porn actors having to wear wearing safety goggles and nitrile gloves during fallatio is pretty hilarious. However, as a rule with few exceptions, No is the correct vote on all California propositions. They invariably make the sponsors economic winners at the expense of the voters.

    With a ballooning Hispanic renter class, expect a Prop 13 repeal in the next few election cycles. It will cause real estate values to implode as home buyers are forced to fold a hefty property tax into their monthly housing budget. If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners, but leaving them stuck in houses they can't sell. Eventually, large tracts of single family homes will be bulldozed to build garden apartments.

    With a ballooning Hispanic renter class, expect a Prop 13 repeal in the next few election cycles. It will cause real estate values to implode as home buyers are forced to fold a hefty property tax into their monthly housing budget. If done humanely, it will grandfather in current homeowners, but leaving them stuck in houses they can’t sell. Eventually, large tracts of single family homes will be bulldozed to build garden apartments.

    High property taxes make renters pay more taxes. Instead of people’s mortgage payment being mostly interest to the bank, it is mostly tax to the state. Taxes here in Texas on a $300k house are over $6,000 a year. 2.14% Unlike income taxes, they can’t be evaded. The state collects every dime every time. So yes, raising property taxes will crash home values.

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  282. donut says:

    You know fellows , I have seen at sea such miraculous things , forget the violent storms , they are a common occurrence . I won’t even try to tell you , F**k facing death I never have and never will fear him . But the offhand sublime beauty that this world offers us every day , you have no idea .

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  283. @ken
    Is Trump about to take this damn thing?!!!

    Trump is up in FL, OH, NC, VA, and PA right now.

    Starting to see the leftist freakout begin from the punditry.

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    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Well, I'm watching Fox News, and Karl Rove isn't calling it for Trump at 9:30 PM EST. (Unlike 2012, when he embarrassed himself over Romney.)

    Again, I'm glad it's close, my son just texted me from the West Coast and thinks Trump may win, and he also doesn't think it will be over _tonight_, BUT ..... I need numbers, not speculation.

    This is turning out closer than expected, but, question is, by how much? Too early to say.
    , @Anonym
    Starting to see the leftist freakout begin from the punditry.

    Yeah, so far (at least from Fox) it appears that Trump has been leading the popular vote by about 5-10%. I would have thought that this will lead to an overall win via the electoral college unless something unforeseen happens.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2016/presidential-election-headquarters
    , @gregor
    Looks like Trump is outperforming the polls big league. Virginia is looking really close (and he might even steal it) yet that was supposed to be a comfortable win for Clinton.
  284. It can’t help Trump that millions have witnessed him delivering the devastating blow, “You’re fired!” Who wants to vote for that guy? Seems heartless and prone to act on a whim.

    I had childhood epiphany that democracy won’t work in a multiculture. I remember the “Ha ha, you’re outnumbered now!” comments from an opposition who had boosted their numbers with newly arrived immigrants. Parts of Sydney fell 40 years ago.

    In Australia they are starting to name the White man. One used to be a bloke, now you’re a “white man”. I never wanted to be a race, just me.

    Hillary Clinton is psychopathic. It’s disappointing that my fellow human beings can’t or won’t see this, and will still vote for her. Terrible behaviour.

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  285. Has anyone else seen the infograph of the NJ electoral map with Clinton at 44% and Trump at 54% and they called it for Clinton?

    Wonder how much more of that is going to happen.

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    • Replies: @for-the-record
    They base their calls on exit polling, early returns are pretty meaningless (generally rural, hence favor Trump).
  286. @Pat Hannagan
    Trump's come storming back to $5.70! Has the rail run rounding the bend! Nearly time to get out the whip for the run home, go you good thing!!

    Neck and neck last 600 down the straight, 2016 Melbourne Cup all over again!

    Trump now in to $2.26. Clinton out to $1.59.

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    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    Trump has broken clear by 3 lengths and moving away fast, winning post in sight!

    Clinton straining heavily under the whip but not responding, showing signs of distress with flecks of froth and foam flying, a breakdown on the cards!

    Trump $1.08, Clinton $6.50!
  287. I’ve been following Bill Mitchell on Twitter the past 24 hours. The Baghdad Bob or Comical Ali of this election. The mainstream press is so dishonest and fraudulent. I’ll go down deluded in a bubble of my own choosing.

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    • Replies: @Tacitus2016
    The man is a prophet! Regaining faith in my fellow human beings.
  288. SPMoore8 says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Trump is up in FL, OH, NC, VA, and PA right now.

    Starting to see the leftist freakout begin from the punditry.

    Well, I’m watching Fox News, and Karl Rove isn’t calling it for Trump at 9:30 PM EST. (Unlike 2012, when he embarrassed himself over Romney.)

    Again, I’m glad it’s close, my son just texted me from the West Coast and thinks Trump may win, and he also doesn’t think it will be over _tonight_, BUT ….. I need numbers, not speculation.

    This is turning out closer than expected, but, question is, by how much? Too early to say.

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  289. Anonym says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Trump is up in FL, OH, NC, VA, and PA right now.

    Starting to see the leftist freakout begin from the punditry.

    Starting to see the leftist freakout begin from the punditry.

    Yeah, so far (at least from Fox) it appears that Trump has been leading the popular vote by about 5-10%. I would have thought that this will lead to an overall win via the electoral college unless something unforeseen happens.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2016/presidential-election-headquarters

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  290. Trump up by by 138,000 in Florida with 94% precincts in. But biggest chunk of uncounted votes is in Broward County (75% reporting, with Hillary +270,000). Extrapolating would give Hillary additional net of around 100,000, there’s probably another 30,000 for her in Miami-Dade, so that overall result should be very close, possible recount territory.

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  291. In Virginia (my old home state), Trump is definitely beating polls (RCP: -5.3%) and is still up by 12,000 (89% reported) with 20% of Fairfax County (Hillary +110,000) still unreported, so it looks like she will pull off a surprisingly narrow victory.

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  292. Anonym says:

    What happened to the CTR shills?

    *crickets*

    Come on, I want to hear a concern troll. Beuller?

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  293. gregor says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Trump is up in FL, OH, NC, VA, and PA right now.

    Starting to see the leftist freakout begin from the punditry.

    Looks like Trump is outperforming the polls big league. Virginia is looking really close (and he might even steal it) yet that was supposed to be a comfortable win for Clinton.

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  294. @Jack Hanson
    Has anyone else seen the infograph of the NJ electoral map with Clinton at 44% and Trump at 54% and they called it for Clinton?

    Wonder how much more of that is going to happen.

    They base their calls on exit polling, early returns are pretty meaningless (generally rural, hence favor Trump).

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  295. Svigor says:

    If Trump really has lost CO by 6 points, that’s not good. On the other hand, if he really has trounced cankles 53 to 43 in Ohio, that points in the other direction. It would be weird if both were true.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius

    It would be weird if both were true.
     
    Colorado has a lot of people fleeing California (but still voting D). Ohio's only been close lately because the union men in the north traditionally vote D. My guess is That Trump made inroads in that demographic across the country.
  296. gregor says:

    In Florida, they are saying Hillary racked up huge margins the D strongholds (Broward, Miami Dade), significantly better than Obama. But Trump has offset it with YUGE margins in the rural areas. Sounds suspicious to me that Hillary would be outperforming Obama though. The Republicans need to kill this early voting nonsense.

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  297. Thea says:
    @benjaminl
    It's interesting to me that these pieces on "extremists" never mention or cite Steve.

    My interpretation is: the MSM deep down recognizes that Steve's "citizenism" is actually not extremist, but in fact the reasonable moderate alternative to their own extremism.

    And in fact, with the possible exception of that one remark about blacks in New Orleans that gave JPod a hissy fit, it's hard, even with the worst intentions, to find a quote from Steve that will make the Goodwhites gasp in horror.

    On another note, I think Steve is onto something with this idea that the MSM is all about projecting their own feelings of hatred onto their enemies.

    https://twitter.com/rezaaslan/status/795788655289765888
    https://twitter.com/AnnieLowrey/status/794258467901079553

    Note that these people are respectable mainstream credentialed "thought leaders," not random campus SJW radicals.

    Depressing that they are paid for their hatred.

    I suspect our host chooses his words with more care than those in the msm can understand, more than even we give him credit for.

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  298. New York Times currently has Trump with 87% chance of winning. Key individual states as follows (assuming Florida for Trump, Virginia for Clinton):

    Pennsylvania (52% possibility)
    Michigan (69%)
    Iowa (52%)
    Wisconsin (68%)
    North Carolina (93%)4Arizona (92%)
    Utah (71%)
    New Hampshire (30%)
    Nevada (34%)
    Colorado (5%)

    But with Clinton winning popular vote by 1.4%

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  299. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    I swore I wouldn’t follow the election at all until it was over, but then I noticed the price of gold had shot up 50 bucks a share in about 2 hours, and the Asian stock markets are crashing. At that point, I knew Trump was winning. It’s going to be interesting day tomorrow.

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  300. Moshe says:

    I don’t vote but FUCK YEAH!!

    I predicted Trump would take the whole thing two weeks after he announced his entry into the race, & I have it in print and timestamped on Facebook. I never wavered from that prediction. Unlike Scott Adams and many others who said “well this changes everything” and went back and forth.

    God I wish I was in America right now. I’d be watching every channel and laughing and swimming in the tears of the aged establishment of the wealyhy, media, education racket and governemnt employees!!

    I haven’t had a drink in about 6 months (not an alcoholic, just happened that way) but I’m gonna find a liquor store somewhere in this Islamic land and Go To Town!

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  301. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    This election presents us with the choice between a feminine type state or a masculine one.

    With Hillary we get fairyish men, hot-house, city-boy Jewish bankers running the economy, womyns rights types and assorted incapacitated peoples who cry that they can’t make it on their own and must have a hand up from big government to survive the trauma of oppression that living with whites in the USA exposes them to.

    With Trump we get the promise of a revived economy which will become productive again and will hopefully reverse the avalanche of trade deficits this country has run for the last 40 years.

    With Trump we stand on our own two legs and become a nation of manufacturing doers again. With Hillary we weep, moan and cry out for pity.

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  302. @fnn

    The damage that Nurse Ratched will do if elected is incalculable.

    Tiny compared to the damage Dubya already did.
     
    HRC is the neocon's neocon. She wants war with Russia.

    HRC is the neocon’s neocon. She wants war with Russia.

    HRC is running to be Dubya’s third term.

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  303. @(((Owen)))

    In order of swing-state poll closing times for easy election night reference,

    5pm
    VA: Hillary
    NH: Hillary
    5:30
    NC: Hillary
    OH: Trump
    6pm
    ME: Hillary
    PA: Hillary
    FL: Hillary
    7pm
    MI: Hillary
    WI: Hillary
    MN: Hillary
    CO: Hillary
    AZ: Hillary
    8pm
    IA: Trump
    UT: Trump
    NV: Hillary

    Electoral College: 334 Hillary – 204 Trump
     
    I put up my final forecast a week ago and I'm still happy with it. Things have tightened in NC and AZ and I'd now predict that AZ will go Trump and NC is 50/50, if it weren't too late to change. My new total would be 308-230, if I were updating based on today's polls.

    But I put up my final prediction a week ago and it's set in stone: 334-204. Really, its an amazingly good outcome for a presidential candidate who can't discipline himself to go a week without a self-imposed major embarrassment and who couldn't be bothered to learn anything about the issues or practice for a debate or organize a ground game for turnout.

    Which makes me wonder why Republicans nominated a guy like that. Oh yeah, I remember: Because the Republican Party is such a treasonous screwup swamp that all sixteen other candidates were clearly and obviously worse.

    Don't forget to vote.

    Well, I suppose it’s now about an hour past the point when I ought to have apologised for this moronic projection. Sorry for trusting the scientific polling and historic projections of voting behavior when I should have known this time everything is different.

    #MAGA

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    • Replies: @bored identity
    you welcome....now be a mensch and get a rid of your nasty moniker.....you own me , remember?
    , @colm
    Too late. At least we all know never to trust anything you will ever write at here.

    All the scientific bullshit has come to nought.

  304. @Svigor
    If Trump really has lost CO by 6 points, that's not good. On the other hand, if he really has trounced cankles 53 to 43 in Ohio, that points in the other direction. It would be weird if both were true.

    It would be weird if both were true.

    Colorado has a lot of people fleeing California (but still voting D). Ohio’s only been close lately because the union men in the north traditionally vote D. My guess is That Trump made inroads in that demographic across the country.

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  305. Neoconned says:
    @Hodag
    I am making mole and listening to the audiobook of Gibbon's Decline and Fall.

    The die is cast and I can't be arsed to listen to anymore of those idiots on TV. I hope there is a good basketball or hockey game on TV tonite. The Republic either survives or not. Hard to tell if it is worth saving.

    You ask the 64k$ question of this century…..isit even worth sqving? I say no, let it burn and dissolve the way the Soviet Union did…..

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  306. @Pat Hannagan
    Neck and neck last 600 down the straight, 2016 Melbourne Cup all over again!

    Trump now in to $2.26. Clinton out to $1.59.

    Trump has broken clear by 3 lengths and moving away fast, winning post in sight!

    Clinton straining heavily under the whip but not responding, showing signs of distress with flecks of froth and foam flying, a breakdown on the cards!

    Trump $1.08, Clinton $6.50!

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    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    "Nation in shock as Clinton struggles to stay in race for the White House" laments The Sydney Morning Herald headline.

    Punters trackside cheering on the rank outsider as a hush falls over the member's stand private boxes!

    Trump $1.04, Clinton $9.50

    , @Ivy
    To continue your horse racing theme:

    Off to the knackers (the glue factory) for her
  307. Svigor says:

    Trump is crushing the Democrats, seeing them driven before him, and hearing the lamentation of their women.

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    • Replies: @Moshe
    I wish I was in America to celebrate but I can't stop smiling. And yes, your comment is on the ball. This is a time to gloat and to rub it in our enemy's faces. It's not about Trump winning, it's about crushing the establishment under foot and getting drunk on their tears.
  308. Part of me still thinks this is too good to be true, like maybe the NYT is intentionally lowballing Hillary so they can rave about her being “the Comeback Kid” after she “miraculously” pulls out wins in some combination of FL, PA, and IA.

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  309. Svigor says:

    Nice to have this one called early, so I can go to bed. Thanks for running up the score, God-Emperor Trump.

    NYT is projecting a 305 to 233 Trump victory (or a 300 to 238 Trump victory, depending on which gizmo you look at), with Trump taking Pennsylvania (by a hair), Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, Alaska, Iowa, and losing Colorado, Maine, Nevada, Virginia, New Hampshire, New Mexico, and Minnesota.

    Early exit polls: Voters say they want a ‘strong leader’

    M-o-o-n, “strong leader” spells DOOM for cankles.

    Ding dong, the witch is dead, the witch is dead, the witch is dead!

    Lot, must’ve tucked in early. ‘Night Lot, sleep tight!

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  310. Svigor says:

    Part of me still thinks this is too good to be true, like maybe the NYT is intentionally lowballing Hillary so they can rave about her being “the Comeback Kid” after she “miraculously” pulls out wins in some combination of FL, PA, and IA.

    Way more likely that some evil hacker has created a phony NYT site. No way in Hell Big Media pulls one like this, they don’t have a sense of humor.

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  311. @(((Owen)))
    Well, I suppose it's now about an hour past the point when I ought to have apologised for this moronic projection. Sorry for trusting the scientific polling and historic projections of voting behavior when I should have known this time everything is different.

    #MAGA

    you welcome….now be a mensch and get a rid of your nasty moniker…..you own me , remember?

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  312. @Pat Hannagan
    Trump has broken clear by 3 lengths and moving away fast, winning post in sight!

    Clinton straining heavily under the whip but not responding, showing signs of distress with flecks of froth and foam flying, a breakdown on the cards!

    Trump $1.08, Clinton $6.50!

    “Nation in shock as Clinton struggles to stay in race for the White House” laments The Sydney Morning Herald headline.

    Punters trackside cheering on the rank outsider as a hush falls over the member’s stand private boxes!

    Trump $1.04, Clinton $9.50

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    • Replies: @neprof
    Ding dong the witch is dead...and so are her media monkeys.
    , @Pat Hannagan
    Well you can put down the binoculars now because it's Trump, Trump, TRUMP by a country mile, as he flashes past the winning post, fist in the air!

    Just waiting for correct weight to be called.

  313. Anon87 says:

    I hope Pat Buchanan is enjoying himself tonight. A nice drink, and the knowledge that he has finally been vindicated. He’s earned it.

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    • Replies: @Clyde

    I hope Pat Buchanan is enjoying himself tonight. A nice drink, and the knowledge that he has finally been vindicated. He’s earned it.
     
    If Pat or Trump had won in 1992 we would be doing a lot better. It took America 24 years to say no to free trade and open borders. Trump will have to make the best of the much weaker America of 2016. One example being the rise in white's heroin use.
    But a thousand times better than a Hillary win with her instant Amnesty in collusion with Paul Ryan. Lots of credit to Ann Coulter for making it clear to millions the open borders doom ahead for America if Hillary wins.
    , @bored identity
    I concur,Dr. Anon87
    , @Seneca
    God bless him and Steve.

    They and a bunch of others (Anne Coulter, Taki, etc...) really carried a torch to show the way.
  314. Ivy says:
    @Pat Hannagan
    Trump has broken clear by 3 lengths and moving away fast, winning post in sight!

    Clinton straining heavily under the whip but not responding, showing signs of distress with flecks of froth and foam flying, a breakdown on the cards!

    Trump $1.08, Clinton $6.50!

    To continue your horse racing theme:

    Off to the knackers (the glue factory) for her

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  315. neprof says:
    @Pat Hannagan
    "Nation in shock as Clinton struggles to stay in race for the White House" laments The Sydney Morning Herald headline.

    Punters trackside cheering on the rank outsider as a hush falls over the member's stand private boxes!

    Trump $1.04, Clinton $9.50

    Ding dong the witch is dead…and so are her media monkeys.

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  316. @Tiny Duck
    http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html

    Not looking good for you guys at all!

    Prediction: Clinton 308, Trump 230. National vote Clinton +4

    When Clinton wins I’m wondering what lame excuses we’ll hear from the Republican Party at the end of the week for Chump’s loss.

    1. Voter Fraud?

    2. Wasn’t conservative enough?

    Whatever the excuse, I’m sure it will be eye rolling hilarious.

    You feel smart now?

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  317. Svigor says:

    I had no idea Trump would do this well in Great Lakes States. Wisconsin? Michigan? Within a point in Minnesota? I take back everything I ever said about the sausage-eaters.

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    Literally, can't believe he got wisconsin. the whole establishment was against him (i have stories). If he won here, he has Michigan and penn locked down.
  318. @Tacitus2016
    I've been following Bill Mitchell on Twitter the past 24 hours. The Baghdad Bob or Comical Ali of this election. The mainstream press is so dishonest and fraudulent. I'll go down deluded in a bubble of my own choosing.

    The man is a prophet! Regaining faith in my fellow human beings.

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  319. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Suggestion for Steve’s next post: write Hillary’s concession speech. Invite readers to write their own versions.

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  320. Hillary’s 600,000 advantage in Philadelphia metro area has now disappeared, both CNN and NYT show Trump in lead in Pennsylvania. If this holds (and there’s still a fair amount of votes in Pittsburgh metro area to be counted), it’s all over.

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  322. MT says:

    I have been watching CNN and thought that Wolf B. looked unhappy, but then I turned to Uu-nivi-see-ooonnn for a minute and Jorge Ramos looks absolutely fucking stricken. In the inset view they showed some poor little snowflake SJW at the Javits Center just bawling…prog tears taste so sweet!

    I’m watching Jorge some more a few minutes later, I think he’s going to cry.

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    I wonder what will happen to Univision's viewership as a large number of them either voluntarily or involuntarily are deported back to Mexico. My guess is it will decrease, and appetite to be immersed in Spanish declines.

    At your throat or at your feet. Non-white votes will be at our throats, but look to the words in the coming months to be at our feet. Look at the actions, not the words.

  323. Clyde says:
    @Anon87
    I hope Pat Buchanan is enjoying himself tonight. A nice drink, and the knowledge that he has finally been vindicated. He's earned it.

    I hope Pat Buchanan is enjoying himself tonight. A nice drink, and the knowledge that he has finally been vindicated. He’s earned it.

    If Pat or Trump had won in 1992 we would be doing a lot better. It took America 24 years to say no to free trade and open borders. Trump will have to make the best of the much weaker America of 2016. One example being the rise in white’s heroin use.
    But a thousand times better than a Hillary win with her instant Amnesty in collusion with Paul Ryan. Lots of credit to Ann Coulter for making it clear to millions the open borders doom ahead for America if Hillary wins.

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  324. Moshe says:
    @Svigor
    Trump is crushing the Democrats, seeing them driven before him, and hearing the lamentation of their women.

    I wish I was in America to celebrate but I can’t stop smiling. And yes, your comment is on the ball. This is a time to gloat and to rub it in our enemy’s faces. It’s not about Trump winning, it’s about crushing the establishment under foot and getting drunk on their tears.

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  325. @Paleo in Northern Virginiastan
    I voted less than an hour after polls opened in Fairfax County, VA with no line at all. My colleagues reported the same thing at their polling places. Let's hope that there's big turnout for The Donald in downstate VA!

    I voted less than an hour after polls opened in Fairfax County, VA with no line at all.

    No line at my precinct in Dallas, as the nice ladies there told me 560 of the 1000 registered voters had voted early.

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  326. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I would like to be gloating more openly but given where I live and where I work, I need to keep things low-key.

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  327. Ivy says:
    @Anonymous
    Suggestion for Steve's next post: write Hillary's concession speech. Invite readers to write their own versions.

    “Bill, you promised”. Fade to black

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  328. @Anon87
    I hope Pat Buchanan is enjoying himself tonight. A nice drink, and the knowledge that he has finally been vindicated. He's earned it.

    I concur,Dr. Anon87

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  329. Moshe says:

    YYEESS!!

    I’m taking a momentary break to write this note.

    A break from what?

    From strolling down the boulevard of a completely Islamic City drinking beer throwing my non-beer hand in the air and shouting “TRUMP!”

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  330. Anonym says:
    @MT
    I have been watching CNN and thought that Wolf B. looked unhappy, but then I turned to Uu-nivi-see-ooonnn for a minute and Jorge Ramos looks absolutely fucking stricken. In the inset view they showed some poor little snowflake SJW at the Javits Center just bawling...prog tears taste so sweet!

    I'm watching Jorge some more a few minutes later, I think he's going to cry.

    I wonder what will happen to Univision’s viewership as a large number of them either voluntarily or involuntarily are deported back to Mexico. My guess is it will decrease, and appetite to be immersed in Spanish declines.

    At your throat or at your feet. Non-white votes will be at our throats, but look to the words in the coming months to be at our feet. Look at the actions, not the words.

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  331. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I need to adjust the color channels on my TV. All the commentators on CNN look really green.

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  332. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/vota.jpg?w=1024&h=768

    The verb "to vote" is "votar", and the imperative form is "!vote!", not "!vota!". Right?

    How do you say in Spanish: ” Who gives a… sexual realationship?”

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  333. Seneca says:
    @Anon87
    I hope Pat Buchanan is enjoying himself tonight. A nice drink, and the knowledge that he has finally been vindicated. He's earned it.

    God bless him and Steve.

    They and a bunch of others (Anne Coulter, Taki, etc…) really carried a torch to show the way.

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  334. Claude says:

    What’s up? So far I’m drinking the fucking tears of my enemies tonight!

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  335. NYT has just called Pennsylvania for Trump, so it only takes the confirmation of one of Wisconsin/Michigan/Arizona to make it “official”.

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  336. @Tiny Duck
    http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html

    Not looking good for you guys at all!

    Prediction: Clinton 308, Trump 230. National vote Clinton +4

    When Clinton wins I’m wondering what lame excuses we’ll hear from the Republican Party at the end of the week for Chump’s loss.

    1. Voter Fraud?

    2. Wasn’t conservative enough?

    Whatever the excuse, I’m sure it will be eye rolling hilarious.

    How’s it going where you’re at, Tiny Dick?

    Don’t let the door hit your feathered ass on the way out now.

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  337. @Pat Hannagan
    "Nation in shock as Clinton struggles to stay in race for the White House" laments The Sydney Morning Herald headline.

    Punters trackside cheering on the rank outsider as a hush falls over the member's stand private boxes!

    Trump $1.04, Clinton $9.50

    Well you can put down the binoculars now because it’s Trump, Trump, TRUMP by a country mile, as he flashes past the winning post, fist in the air!

    Just waiting for correct weight to be called.

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    Loved the winning speech shout to Secretariat!

    The horses are on the track

    There's a new dance that's going around
    When the hits start flying you gotta get down
    All the young people dance round the square
    That old time groove is really nowhere

    When you reach the bottom line
    The only thing to do is climb
    Pick yourself up of the floor
    Don't know what you're waiting for

    A dance to the tune of economic decline
    Is when you do the bottom line
    Nagging questions always remain
    Why did it happen and who was to blame?

    When you reach the bottom line
    The only thing to do is climb
    Pick yourself up of the floor
    Don't know what you're waiting for

    They've been doing it down at the zoo
    And I can show ya here's what to do
    All of the States and over UK
    Even the Soviets are swinging away

    When you reach the bottom line
    The only thing to do is climb
    Pick yourself up of the floor
    Don't know what you're waiting for

    The road ahead's clear as a motorway
    Give us this day our daily bread and send us on our way
    Perchance to dream or take a holiday
    Romeo oh Romeo
    You gotta have your say

    So when you reach the bottom line
    The only thing to do is climb
    Pick yourself up off the floor
    Anything you want is yours

  338. Polynikes says:
    @Svigor
    I had no idea Trump would do this well in Great Lakes States. Wisconsin? Michigan? Within a point in Minnesota? I take back everything I ever said about the sausage-eaters.

    Literally, can’t believe he got wisconsin. the whole establishment was against him (i have stories). If he won here, he has Michigan and penn locked down.

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  339. @Tiny Duck
    http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html

    Not looking good for you guys at all!

    Prediction: Clinton 308, Trump 230. National vote Clinton +4

    When Clinton wins I’m wondering what lame excuses we’ll hear from the Republican Party at the end of the week for Chump’s loss.

    1. Voter Fraud?

    2. Wasn’t conservative enough?

    Whatever the excuse, I’m sure it will be eye rolling hilarious.

    You take your imaginary poll, I will take the real election results. How will the Mainstream Media, Hollywood celebrities, the Pollsters, and Tiny Duck explain how Hillary LOST. I was actually checking polling stations for voting data this afternoon and the turnout was huge, which is why I knew Trump would win the battleground states because I happen to live in one.

    Steve and the regular posters here have tried in vain to correct your moronic worldview with data and reason, but you have steadfastly refused to listen. However, do you know the most amazing thing about this website is Duck? Is was Steve who largely developed the strategy that President-Elect Trump used to crush you and your anti-anglocisherteropatriarchy allies this fall, chew on that tonight and for the next four years.

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  340. @Pat Hannagan
    Well you can put down the binoculars now because it's Trump, Trump, TRUMP by a country mile, as he flashes past the winning post, fist in the air!

    Just waiting for correct weight to be called.

    Loved the winning speech shout to Secretariat!

    The horses are on the track

    There’s a new dance that’s going around
    When the hits start flying you gotta get down
    All the young people dance round the square
    That old time groove is really nowhere

    When you reach the bottom line
    The only thing to do is climb
    Pick yourself up of the floor
    Don’t know what you’re waiting for

    A dance to the tune of economic decline
    Is when you do the bottom line
    Nagging questions always remain
    Why did it happen and who was to blame?

    When you reach the bottom line
    The only thing to do is climb
    Pick yourself up of the floor
    Don’t know what you’re waiting for

    They’ve been doing it down at the zoo
    And I can show ya here’s what to do
    All of the States and over UK
    Even the Soviets are swinging away

    When you reach the bottom line
    The only thing to do is climb
    Pick yourself up of the floor
    Don’t know what you’re waiting for

    The road ahead’s clear as a motorway
    Give us this day our daily bread and send us on our way
    Perchance to dream or take a holiday
    Romeo oh Romeo
    You gotta have your say

    So when you reach the bottom line
    The only thing to do is climb
    Pick yourself up off the floor
    Anything you want is yours

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    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    Lol, Sportsbet now running a market on first person Trump puts in jail!

    http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/us-election-2016/US-Presidential-Election-2016-476310.html