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Donald Trump’s sister imprisoned a saintly immigrant activist and now the Trump Administration is trying to deport him, just because he’s a white collar felon convicted of 7 counts of wire fraud in mortgage scams.

From the New York Times:

Activists and ICE Face Off Over Detained Immigrant Leader
By LIZ ROBBINS JAN. 12, 2018

An escalating legal battle played out on Friday in the case of Ravi Ragbir, an immigrant rights activist whose detention on Thursday by federal immigration authorities sparked protests that led to the arrest of 18 people, including members of the New York City Council.

Mr. Ragbir, 53, the executive director of the New Sanctuary Coalition of New York City, had shown up for a check-in with Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Thursday morning, at the Jacob K. Javits Federal Building in Lower Manhattan. When officials told him that he was going to be detained and deported, Mr. Ragbir fainted, his wife, Amy Gottlieb, said.

Does anybody ever really faint from surprise? Ladies used to faint all the time in old movies:

But I haven’t seen anybody faint from surprise in a movie in years, much less in real life. Do you keep smelling salts around for all the people fainting from surprise like, apparently, the well-stocked home did in the 19th Century?

That is when events turned chaotic.

His lawyer from New York University Immigrant Rights Clinic, Alina Das, said that as he was regaining consciousness she argued that she was still pursuing legal remedies for Mr. Ragbir. She said that Scott Mechkowski, the assistant field office director for ICE, dismissed her arguments and had officers handcuff Mr. Ragbir.

An ambulance called for Mr. Ragbir was met with angry protesters as it left the federal building. The protest extended onto Broadway and toward City Hall and council members Ydanis Rodriguez and Jumaane D. Williams were among the 18 arrested.

Jumaane D. Williams has a lengthy op-ed in the New York Daily News today explaining why Martin Luther King Day and Ravi and Colin Kaepernick are all tied together.

Ms. Gottlieb rode to Lower Manhattan Hospital of NewYork-Presbyterian in the ambulance with Mr. Ragbir, she said. There, Ms. Gottlieb said, she was told to get out of the ambulance, which then left with Mr. Ragbir inside. Ms. Gottlieb learned later that it had taken him to a hospital devoid of protesters, Bellevue Hospital Center, for evaluation. From there, the New York Police Department provided an escort for federal immigration vehicles to the Holland Tunnel; unbeknown to his wife, lawyer and supporters, Mr. Ragbir was soon on a plane to Miami, where he was placed in a federal detention center.

Late Thursday night, in response to a lawsuit brought by Mr. Ragbir’s lawyers, a Federal District Court judge in Manhattan granted him a temporary stay of removal and a hearing on Jan. 29 to determine whether the agents were right to detain him.

And then, finally, we get to some mention of why this saintly activist is being deported:

Mr. Ragbir became an immigrant rights activist because of his own case. He came to the United States in 1991 from Trinidad and Tobago. He had been a lawful permanent resident when he was convicted of wire fraud in 2000. After he served his sentence, Mr. Ragbir was ordered deported in 2006 and detained by immigration officials.

In 2011, the New York field office of ICE granted him a stay of removal. Last April, he was granted an extension of that stay, but only until Jan. 19, eight days after his check-in.

Ravi was convicted in 2000 of seven counts of wire fraud in a $400,000 mortgage embezzlement from a financial institution where he worked. He appealed his conviction and got turned down hard by Third Circuit court of appeals in 2002. You can read the appellate court’s decision upholding his conviction here:

BARRY, Circuit Judge

Following a jury trial, appellant Ravidath Ragbir was convicted of one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud in violation of 18 U.S.C.  371 and six counts of wire fraud in violation of 18 U.S.C.  1343 and 2. After an unsuccessful post-trial motion for a judgment of acquittal or for a new trial, Ragbir was sentenced to thirty months of imprisonment and three years of supervised release and ordered to pay $350,00 in restitution.

Ragbir appeals his convictions and sentence.

… An examination of the circumstances surrounding Ragbir’s confession reveals that it was voluntary. …

Ragbir intentionally processed false mortgage loan applications in furtherance of his scheme with Kosch without conducting the required background checks. …

There is sufficient evidence in the record before us to support Ragbir’s convictions. First and foremost, his July 27th and 28th statements make quite clear that he agreed with Kosch to obtain money from HFC through the use of false loans and that such money was, in fact, obtained. …

Later in that statement, Ragbir lists twenty-one different loans that he fraudulently submitted under his arrangement with Kosch. Ragbir’s statement of July 28th similarly confirms the conspiracy:

He [Kosch] is the guy that was running the whole scheme through me at my job Household Finance between December 1998 and now. He has organized the filing of 1.5 million dollars worth of fraudulent loans by using me to process the loans through Household Finance and allow others to assume false identities to apply for the loans.

… Ragbir, therefore, was particularly well-situated to perpetrate the loan fraud scheme. He willingly processed false applications referred to him by Kosch. He then knowingly filled in false information on the application forms and submitted them to underwriters without conducting the appropriate verification. Relying on his recommendations, the underwriters approved the loans. Indeed, but for his assistance, the conspiracy could not have been successful. Accordingly, the District Court correctly concluded that Ragbir violated a position of trust in a manner that significantly facilitated the conspiracy to defraud HFC.

For the foregoing reasons, we will affirm the judgment of the District Court.

Ouch.

Commenter 1661er asks:

So was Judge Barry in this case, POTUS’ older sister, Maryanne Trump Barry?

Good call.

Yet this crook Ravi has dodged deportation for the dozen or so years since he got out of prison. (So he probably didn’t really faint from surprise after spending 12 years dodging deportation.)

But it would be utterly inhumane to send him back to Trinidad because everybody knows it’s a … oh, well, you know, actually, it looks pretty nice:

 
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  1. So was Judge Barry in this case, POTUS’ older sister, Maryanne Trump Barry?

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Probably.
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  2. He came to the United States in 1991 from Trinidad and Tobago. He had been a lawful permanent resident when he was convicted of wire fraud in 2000.

    What kind of visa did he use to enter the United States and how did he receive a green card so quickly?

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  3. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I’m wondering how he got his first immigrant visa. He came in 1991 on a visitor’s visa, which sounds like maybe a 60-day B-2 visa back then. Then three years later he has an immigrant visa. He never left the U.S.? He applied from U.S. soil as an overstay? What the hell was the State Department doing? Or maybe I’m missing some details.

    Then on an unknown date he marries a U.S. citizen and immigrant rights activist and tries for an spouse visa, maybe an IR-1, or a CR-1 if he applied after revokation of his immigrant visa. Some spouse visa conditions from state.gov:

    Attempting to obtain a visa by the willful misrepresentation of a material fact or fraud may result in you becoming permanently ineligible to receive a U.S. visa or enter the United States.

    Certain conditions and activities may make an applicant ineligible for a visa. Examples of these ineligibilities include: drug trafficking; overstaying a previous visa; and submitting fraudulent documents. If you are ineligible for a visa, you will be informed by the consular officer and advised whether there is a waiver of the ineligibility available to you and what the waiver process is.

    Classes of Aliens Ineligible to Receive Visas contains the complete list of ineligibilities.

    Conviction of certain crimes.- …

    Illegal entrants and immigration violators. -…

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  4. @1661er
    So was Judge Barry in this case, POTUS' older sister, Maryanne Trump Barry?

    Probably.

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  5. The saints of the New Civil Rights Movement seem to be all less than saintly on closer inspection. This crook fits in well with the Gentle Giant and the others.

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    • Replies: @guest
    "Hands up, don't deport!"
    , @Almost Missouri
    Many of the saints of the Old Civil Rights Movement also don't seem all that saintly on closer inspection. Thanks to our media betters, however, that inspection never took place.
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  6. “Jumaane D. Williams”. Is that some sort of semitic rapper?

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    I dread to think what illiterate jumble of nonsense the D stands for
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  7. Some (((judge))) will invent a bogus legal reason he can’t be deported and that will be that. Maybe though the Trump administration will have the will to fight the issue and he will actually be deported.

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    • Replies: @Clyde

    Some (((judge))) will invent a bogus legal reason he can’t be deported and that will be that. Maybe though the Trump administration will have the will to fight the issue and he will actually be deported.
     
    Michelle Malkin's immortal quote is, "It ain't over until the illegal alien wins". Seems she said this 2002. There has been plenty of betrayal since then.
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  8. So now Ravi Ragbir can become an emigrant rights activist. Vaya con dios, deportation dodger!

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  9. I hope ICE and DOJ stick to this case and enforce the deportation.

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  10. it looks pretty nice:

    Even the Canadians are skeptical:

    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO – Exercise a high degree of caution — Exercise a high degree of caution in Trinidad and Tobago due to a high crime rate.

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    • Replies: @CJ
    Having been there, I agree. Port of Spain may look okay in that tourist board photo, but it's quite vibrant indeed.
    , @wrd9
    It's true they have a high crime rate but, let's face it, he'll fit right in. The fact is he brought the islands' corrupt culture with him and he committed crimes as a result. Who knows what he got away with. In my opinion, he's typical of what the US gets from shitholes.
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  11. This socialist website says Ravi brought a mob with him. My take is his fainting was fake. Done to allow his supporters to rally others via smart phone. https://socialistworker.org/2018/01/15/we-stand-with-ravi-ragbir

    But supporters of Ragbir, who is executive director of the New Sanctuary Coalition, have been preparing for this day. Hundreds of Ravi’s supporters had already encircled ICE’s New York City headquarters when he went inside for his appointment.They conducted a silent Jericho walk while holding signs reading “No walls, no boarders,” “No deportations” and “No one is illegal.”

    When ICE officials told Ragbir that he would be detained and faced imminent deportation to Trinidad, he fainted, according to his lawyer, Alina Das, and his wife, Amy Gottlieb. The word went out on social media, and still more demonstrators gathered outside the building.

    Ragbir was handcuffed and placed in an ambulance, with his wife accompanying him. Believing the ambulance was taking Ragbir to the Varick Street Detention Center, demonstrators tried to block its path, chanting Ravi’s name.

    NYPD officers responded violently, shoving people out of the way. Some demonstrators sat down in front of the ambulance, including New York City Council member Ydanis Rodriguez, who wrote on Twitter later that the NYPD put him in a chokehold. City Council member Jumaane Williams was also arrested and was captured on video being cuffed against the hood of a car.

    The police also arrested New Sanctuary Coalition faith leader Father Juan Carlos Luis, who shouted, “We want Ravi with us. He is family. He needs to be free,” while zip-tied behind an NYPD van. Some 18 demonstrators were arrested in the protest.

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    "This socialist website says Ravi brought a mob with him. My take is his fainting was fake. Done to allow his supporters to rally others via smart phone. https://socialistworker.org/2018/01/15/we-stand-with-ravi-ragbir

    Of course it was fake.

    Unless he is actually gay. Gays are so deeply caring and sweetly innocent and virtuously victimized that the shock of seeing HATE may make them faint.
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    Curious to see if this was another Fr. Berrigan, I did some searching. Father Juan Carlos Luis, despite what you might suppose, is a Lutheran pastor.
    , @Alden
    Amy Gottlieb, why am I not surprised.

    Jews sure have a high out marriage rate. The men tend to outmarry ordinary American White women. But Jewish women go for as exotic as possible.

    On the other hand, it may have been a green card marriage.
    , @Bill B.

    “No walls, no boarders,”
     
    That's nice: you can come in but you are not staying at my place.
    , @Anonymous

    When ICE officials told Ragbir that he would be detained and faced imminent deportation to Trinidad, he fainted, according to his lawyer, Alina Das, and his wife, Amy Gottlieb.
     
    Does Amy Gottlieb have blue hair and wear problem glasses? What was her weight at the time she got married to the Caribbean felon?
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    Some (((judge))) will invent a bogus legal reason he can't be deported and that will be that. Maybe though the Trump administration will have the will to fight the issue and he will actually be deported.

    Some (((judge))) will invent a bogus legal reason he can’t be deported and that will be that. Maybe though the Trump administration will have the will to fight the issue and he will actually be deported.

    Michelle Malkin’s immortal quote is, “It ain’t over until the illegal alien wins”. Seems she said this 2002. There has been plenty of betrayal since then.

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  13. From Château Heartiste:

    The newest generation, Generation Z (born end of the 1990s or later), is getting very right wing

    86% of USA white boys of generation Z would have voted for Trump

    70% of USA white girls of generation Z would have voted for Trump

    If Generation Z had done all the voting, Trump would have won 45 of the 50 US states

    In Europe the trend is moving along similarly, tho with some lag to the US as is typical

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/11/the-state-of-america-according-to-generation-z/

    January 11

    ... Only a quarter of young people view President Trump positively. A large majority — 72 percent — have an unfavorable view of him. But the survey found young white Americans hold the most favorable views of Trump, with more than a third — 35 percent — giving him positive marks.
     

    , @anonymous
    "As ye sow, so shall ye reap."
    , @Anon87
    If this is true, which is debatable, it is good news since people tend to get more conservative as they get older (raising families, paying taxes, etc.). I imagine there is an important demographic component as well.
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  14. @reiner Tor
    The saints of the New Civil Rights Movement seem to be all less than saintly on closer inspection. This crook fits in well with the Gentle Giant and the others.

    “Hands up, don’t deport!”

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    Feet up, don't resuscitate!
    , @Father O'Hara
    "I'm Fainting!", maybe. Look good on a T shirt, ya tink? BTW: Barry was married to a hot shot lawyer named John Barry, who did some work for Trump. He also defended some guy named Crazy Eddie. Crazy Eddie did "wacky" ads for his retail electronics chain. Given that New York is like one big family, I wonder if Crazy Eddie was the inspiration for Seinfeld's so funny "No One Beats The Wiz" lunatic, the publicity craving boyfriend of Elaine. And of course Bannon owned a piece of Seinfeld. So...it like all fits.
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  15. OT, Department Of Not Seeing The Bleeding Obvious (hence keeping your media job)

    Ian Buruma

    “Why Is Japan Populist-Free?”

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    Ian Buruma is a smart guy but his refusal to "go there" has made him pretty irrelevant.

    His book on the murder of Theo van Gogh is a shocker:

    Buruma argues that conservatives have "commandeered" the liberal values of the European Enlightenment to portray Islam and Western culture as "competing, hostile versions of absolute truth."[1]
    Buruma argues that murderers like the young Muslim who killed Theo van Gogh are driven to action by the failure of Dutch society to recognize them as full members of Dutch society, their new homeland.[1]
    He concluded with a vague hope that reason and civility will prevail.[2]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_Amsterdam
    , @Laugh Track

    OT, Department Of Not Seeing The Bleeding Obvious (hence keeping your media job)

    Ian Buruma

    “Why Is Japan Populist-Free?”
     
    Ian Buruma, by the way, is the new editor of the New York Review of Books, succeeding the long time editor Robert Silvers, who died several months back. Any changes in the editorial mix that may be happening are occurring very slowly.
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  16. He’s lucky because Trinidad & Tobago have a shortage of immigration activists right now.

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  17. I wonder how the coverage response would have been if the criminal had instead been Russian named Vladimir Semyonovich.

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  18. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Brabantian
    From Château Heartiste:

    The newest generation, Generation Z (born end of the 1990s or later), is getting very right wing

    86% of USA white boys of generation Z would have voted for Trump

    70% of USA white girls of generation Z would have voted for Trump

    If Generation Z had done all the voting, Trump would have won 45 of the 50 US states

    In Europe the trend is moving along similarly, tho with some lag to the US as is typical

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/11/the-state-of-america-according-to-generation-z/

    January 11

    … Only a quarter of young people view President Trump positively. A large majority — 72 percent — have an unfavorable view of him. But the survey found young white Americans hold the most favorable views of Trump, with more than a third — 35 percent — giving him positive marks.

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  19. They aren’t all like this. This man is black mark that is a stain on the robes of the otherwise saintly Trinidadian-Tobogan-Americans. Wait, or are there separate Trinidadian-Americans and Tobogan-Americans? Have we ever had any Trinidadian-Tobogan-American Attorneys-General? Where is William F. Buckley when you need him for something actually useful?

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    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    He is in his grave,sir. A grave in a no doubt quite prosperous Catholic cemetery. Probably quite beautiful. But if you would visit there at night beware. It is said that those who dare to tread on his grave in the wee hours may sometimes detect,amid the whistling of the wind through the stately oaks and lovely elms, a voice, one that is old and cracked. If one listens keenly, ever so carefully, he may detect a fervent plea in the plaintive howl of the wind. Let him close his eyes and hear: "Are yoooooo an anti-Semite? Depart from here! Depart!"
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  20. At the extreme risk of being publicly called out as an Eeyore, I will state that lots of the enforcement actions going on in this administration are small potatoes – see VDare’s Federale with 7-Eleven Raids Not Exactly A Reign Of Terror–Only 21 Arrests. More Action Needed!. However, if we can make people faint, but more importantly, wisk guys like this scum to detention in Miami via ambulance and aircraft, it puts the fear in some of the others that are not numerate enough to know they probably have no worries.

    Is this 4-D chess by our President? Nah, but it just works out good. The best part is that the “journalists” like this Liz Robbins are inadvertently spreading the fear around. Yes, they know that fear and indignation sells papers to whatever idiots still get them, but the inadvertent part is the implantation in the puny minds of other immigration scammers that maybe they and their clients are next, which is probably not the case, as enforement is not being done in any comprehensive, large-scale manner …. YET, I hope.

    In the meantime, putting the fear in them works for a while.

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    Since you didn't run immediately to DRUMPF IS JUST LIKE HILLARY Ill give you a serious response on the various spanners in the gears:

    1) The yuge one is a 9th Circus case that went under the wire of most people, which the Obama Administration did a 'sue and settle' with. To wit, there is a very narrow time frame that you can hold a so called "family unit" in prison before you issue them a NTA/WA and kick them down the road.

    2) For a while the solution to this was "separate fucking everyone". As in you remove the kid from the parent, send the kid to foster care, and then hit the parent with 1325, 1326a1/a2/b2 and call it a day. However news travels slow, so it took some time for that news to get to Central American. So they kept coming and then having Hispanic panic when they realised they were going to jail and their kids were going to foster care. However, the homes filled up fast.

    3) So now we are currently watching the water rise, and people are trying to figure out what the hell to do next. The Ninth Circus has a lot of High Mucketymucks on edge because they know there's a good chance that any solution they have is going to have some pro-criminal group run to an insane judge who will issue a nationwide injunction, and they're not willing to set up the infrastructure to deal with a million Central Americans running at the border with their babies held up high (a la Elysium's ending), only to have that infrastructure sit idle while the Ninth massages law into pudding to get what it wants.

    Right now there's two schools of thought: Let the situation get so bad that any judge doing an injunction rolls the dice on being impeached by Congress or simply pulling the trigger and letting the system work things out with the inevitable 5-4 ruling of SCOTUS and then doing what they were going to do anyway.

    Just saying, there's a lot going on you guys aren't seeing, and its not Trump's fault. Right now Homan has the right idea in that no one, no where is safe. Which is why there are 7-11 raids and what not. That being said, the judiciary needs to have a rather big check applied against it in the form of impeachment. That's not Trump's call tho. That originates in Congress. Let them pull the trigger versus the Usual Suspects using it as a way to score cheap points from the Left against Trump.

    , @Jack Hanson
    My bonus 4) Immigration Judges are playing games with their dockets. Since IJs are administrative judges, it doesn't take much to hire them. Since many of them are former immigration attorneys, its obvious where some sympathies lie. The average IJ is similar in outlook to someone like Gabriel Malor.

    You'd see shit like the IJ asking a clear cut inadmissible at entry to give his life story over a week, talking about how the cartels made him smuggle drugs or else they would kill his sick mother (who he smuggled drugs to buy medicine for) , with the IJ nodding sympathetically along....only for the AUSA to point out on Friday afternoon that this is the alien's third 841 charge and he refused to turn mat witness against the others who supposedly forced him to smuggle. At this point the IJ becomes very stern and wags his finger at a sheepishly grinning illegal, and then Monday there's an 80/20 split that he orders the alien removed versus dissembling for another week about what a tragedy the alien's life is.

    And this is a clear cut narcotics mule! Get some dude with a slew of 1326a2 convictions and it could take 2 weeks as he describes every illegal entry to feed every tia/abuela/madre/esposa possible even though he's a reinstate of a prior order and has absolutely no legal leg to be in the USA, the IJ will start looking for any reason to keep the alien here, even coaching him towards a credible fear claim.

    The IJ has another weapon in his "alien always wins" arsenal, and that is the recess of the court, where the IJ can't make sense of the very black and white facts on front of them, and recesses to a "later date", which might as well be never. The alien walks, not legal, but might as well be.

    IJs always like to present themselves as "Dios mios! My docket is so overloaded! That's why I'm backed up!" And totally not because they ran their court rooms like little kingdoms and would tell the AUSA that they are on the IJs time.

    AG Sessions has put the IJs on notice that he's onto their tricks and is reviewing their minutes, and they are reacting like affronted women, upset that for once in decades (maybe since Janet Reno) they're being held accountable and not allowed to dance around the word and verse of the INA and being told to follow it as prescribed.

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  21. @guest
    "Hands up, don't deport!"

    Feet up, don’t resuscitate!

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  22. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Er,…..actually, no.

    Trinidad is a typical nasty, murderous hell-hole Carribean island.

    The blacks hate the Indians, and the Indians hate the blacks.
    Anyone with any money at all will eventually be murdered by the local blacks.

    The only ‘good’ that ever came from Trinidad was the asphalt which paved many of Britain’s roads.

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    • Replies: @rogue-one
    Welcome to America 2100! So diverse, so vibrant.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    "The only ‘good’ that ever came from Trinidad was the asphalt which paved many of Britain’s roads."

    Calypso is pretty good, and they have some decent cricketers. I don't think it's too bad (as Caribbean places go). High GNP due to the oil and gas.

    I see they also have Indian-derived music, Pichakaree and Chutney!
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  23. Mr. Ragbir fainted, his wife, Amy Gottlieb, said.

    Ragbir’s wife and Kurt Eichenwald’s wife should hang out.

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  24. “Jumaane D. Williams has a lengthy op-ed in the New York Daily News today explaining why Martin Luther King Day and Ravi and Colin Kaepernick are all tied together.”

    What MLK is inextricably tied with is the sacralization of non-whites (as opposed to just the WASP Elites making the American Negro Numinous); demands for endless immigration; the Sexual Revolution taken to Main Street and its high schools and down to its grade schools; more specifically, the Gay Revolution; the proudly public hatred for all things heterosexual Gentile white male.

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  25. @Clyde
    This socialist website says Ravi brought a mob with him. My take is his fainting was fake. Done to allow his supporters to rally others via smart phone. https://socialistworker.org/2018/01/15/we-stand-with-ravi-ragbir


    But supporters of Ragbir, who is executive director of the New Sanctuary Coalition, have been preparing for this day. Hundreds of Ravi's supporters had already encircled ICE's New York City headquarters when he went inside for his appointment.They conducted a silent Jericho walk while holding signs reading "No walls, no boarders," "No deportations" and "No one is illegal."

    When ICE officials told Ragbir that he would be detained and faced imminent deportation to Trinidad, he fainted, according to his lawyer, Alina Das, and his wife, Amy Gottlieb. The word went out on social media, and still more demonstrators gathered outside the building.

    Ragbir was handcuffed and placed in an ambulance, with his wife accompanying him. Believing the ambulance was taking Ragbir to the Varick Street Detention Center, demonstrators tried to block its path, chanting Ravi's name.

    NYPD officers responded violently, shoving people out of the way. Some demonstrators sat down in front of the ambulance, including New York City Council member Ydanis Rodriguez, who wrote on Twitter later that the NYPD put him in a chokehold. City Council member Jumaane Williams was also arrested and was captured on video being cuffed against the hood of a car.

    The police also arrested New Sanctuary Coalition faith leader Father Juan Carlos Luis, who shouted, "We want Ravi with us. He is family. He needs to be free," while zip-tied behind an NYPD van. Some 18 demonstrators were arrested in the protest.

    “This socialist website says Ravi brought a mob with him. My take is his fainting was fake. Done to allow his supporters to rally others via smart phone. https://socialistworker.org/2018/01/15/we-stand-with-ravi-ragbir

    Of course it was fake.

    Unless he is actually gay. Gays are so deeply caring and sweetly innocent and virtuously victimized that the shock of seeing HATE may make them faint.

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  26. This sort of thing used to happen all the time in Queens County (NYC) and probably still does.
    Reggie Gousse, a hardened felon, who was also a deportable Haitian national, wound up killing a bank manager in nearby Nassau County over the keys to the front door of the victim’s bank in January, 2005.

    It turned out that ole Reg had greased a Queens judge and a Queens Assistant District Attorney in order to have all his many prior felonies turned into misdemeanors, so that he would not be instantly deported by the federal authorities after he was released from state prison. The feds almost always ignore illegals who have “only” been convicted of “petty crimes.” The Queens DA’s office didn’t bother to notify the feds after Gousse had gotten out of state prison because Gousse’s criminal conviction sheet had been aggressively altered, thanks to a bent judge and a crooked ADA.

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  27. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/06/17/trumps_sister_commands_respect_from_her_judicial_bench_130894.html

    The linked article on Trump’s sister mentioned she brought She Who Must be Obeyed’s huddled masses thing into a case and said also claimed that “Neither of my parents had English as a first language”

    Frightening .

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    “Neither of my parents had English as a first language”

    Maybe that explains this startling insightful "political analysis" [sic]:


    Donald Trump speaks at a fourth-grade level, the lowest of last 15 U.S. presidents, according to analysis
    Aris Folley, AOL.com

    President Donald Trump connects with the American people by using a language that even a fourth grader could understand, according to a recently published analysis by Factbase on the speech patterns of the last 15 U.S. presidents.

    The analysis looked at the first 30,000 words each president spoke in office and ranked each of the presidents' speech -- going back to Herbert Hoover -- using the Flesch-Kincaid grade level scale and several other tests that commonly analyze English-language difficulty levels.
     

    , @Expletive Deleted
    So nobody spoke English in the early 20th century Bronx? And Hebrideans were not forcibly schooled in The Queen's English?
    Mary "her second language being English, which she learned at Tong school where it was reported she was a star pupil" McLeod?

    How very Trumpean, eliding history like that. If she'd said grandparents I might have believed her.
    Or did she and Fred converse in Pfälzisch and Gàidhlig, while totally ignoring their noisy Italian, Polish and Jewish neighbors? Thus explaining the effect on their poor children.

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  28. Victorians and their successors don’t seem to have been more prone to fainting during strenuous physical activity (even in the burdensome formal wear of the time), so it was probably just a conscious or unconscious display of how distressed they were by something (and by extension, how refined their sensibilities must be to be distressed by something like that).

    Mr. Ragbir is just a little behind the times. If he’d wanted to be more current, he should have gone with a panic attack.

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  29. Immigrant-rights activism as a beard for financial fraud? Doesn’t this pretty much sum up the Democratic Party platform?

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  30. Trinidad and Tobago is wildly successful for a black-run country. All the measures of quality of life are multiple standard deviations from the average in such countries. It’s well over 90% black too.

    What’s caused its success?

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    Small population size enabled it to rely on just a few industries it can run with its smart fraction and token outsiders under a system of law and government to which they have adhered rigorously? Basically Botswana. The kind of third worlders that did not throw out the baby with the bathwater when they became independent.
    , @Jack D
    Because it's not a [n exclusively] black run country. After slavery ended (in 1834) the British still needed cheap labor for their software houses (oops, I mean sugar plantations) so they hit upon the idea of bring over indentured servants from India. There are slightly more Indians than blacks in Trinidad - a little over 1/3 each and the remainder is mixed race including a large Afro-Indian group called Dougla (originally Indian father/black mother - more men than women came over as servants). Political control tends to switch back & forth between blacks and Indians.
    , @Anonymous
    Oil.
    , @james wilson
    "Trinidad and Tobago is wildly successful for a black-run country. All the measures of quality of life are multiple standard deviations from the average in such countries. It’s well over 90% black too." Mulattoes, Indians, oil, and the fact that it was a British colony. The one-third African population contribute Detroit's murder rate. The smart fraction of Africans are in the US living white.
    , @trini
    Not 90% black. Half the population are African former slaves and the other half are Asian Indian former identured workers, ie, slaves for the term of the contract. Split right down the middle and the wealth all come from industrious Indians who save for tomorrow while blacks fight for government jobs to suck on the Indian-created wealth. Thats's the good blacks, the others devise methods of robbery.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    Trinidad and Tobago is wildly successful for a black-run country

     

    ...


    Trinidad and Tobago
    ...
    34.22% African

     

    , @Foreign Expert
    I taught a course at the university there a log time ago. I was astonished at the intellectual quality of the black students i came into contact with. Far above what you would expect in the USA.
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  31. Tony Soprano was the last guy to have fainting spells that I can think of (the clinical euphemism is “panic attack”) in a serious setting. Especially when half black half Jewish twerps would intimidate him, because, you know, that’s pretty realistic.

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  32. @reiner Tor
    The saints of the New Civil Rights Movement seem to be all less than saintly on closer inspection. This crook fits in well with the Gentle Giant and the others.

    Many of the saints of the Old Civil Rights Movement also don’t seem all that saintly on closer inspection. Thanks to our media betters, however, that inspection never took place.

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  33. “Does anybody ever really faint from surprise?”

    No, just melodramatic little weasels.

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  34. @Brabantian
    From Château Heartiste:

    The newest generation, Generation Z (born end of the 1990s or later), is getting very right wing

    86% of USA white boys of generation Z would have voted for Trump

    70% of USA white girls of generation Z would have voted for Trump

    If Generation Z had done all the voting, Trump would have won 45 of the 50 US states

    In Europe the trend is moving along similarly, tho with some lag to the US as is typical

    “As ye sow, so shall ye reap.”

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  35. You gotta admit, “immigration rights activist” is a fantastic cover for just another immivader scam artist. So while Ragbir may be from Trinidad, he is ethnically Indian, which perfectly explains his being a scam artist (real Trinidadians aren’t clever enough or ambitious enough for that kind of thing) and his cute fake fainting spell.

    I especially like how he found a hatchet-faced Jewish professional trouble maker (“immigration rights activist”) to marry. Can you imagine how fun the conversations are around the seder table? What really makes me happy is how Trump’s election probably drove Ms. Gottlieb out of her mind, though I suspect her husband’s only thought was “How can I make some money out of this?”

    In any case, Ragbir’s case is the umpteenth illustration of Peterike’s Law, that Asian immigration will be vastly more destructive to America than Hispanic immigration.

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    Lol, I actually googled Peterike before I realized you were quoting yourself.
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  36. Wow, if they can’t deport this guy, they won’t be able to deport anybody.

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  37. On July 5, 1950, the Knesset, Israel’s Parliament, enacted The Law of Return, which gives Jews and their descendants automatic rights regarding residency and Israeli citizenship.

    The pro-immigration folks consider America the world’s Israel–everyone has a right to be here, should they choose to make aliyah.

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  38. He’s getting deported, they’re just waiting for his docs and a full plane. He’s been convicted of felonies and federal ones to boot. Bush and Obama really dropped the ball on deportations, actually Obama was better than Bush but skirted on interior enforcement.

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    No, he wasn't. He greased the books to count illegals caught near the border (VRs and ERs) as deportations. Prosecution for actual immigration violations was a pipe dream.
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  39. @Clyde
    This socialist website says Ravi brought a mob with him. My take is his fainting was fake. Done to allow his supporters to rally others via smart phone. https://socialistworker.org/2018/01/15/we-stand-with-ravi-ragbir


    But supporters of Ragbir, who is executive director of the New Sanctuary Coalition, have been preparing for this day. Hundreds of Ravi's supporters had already encircled ICE's New York City headquarters when he went inside for his appointment.They conducted a silent Jericho walk while holding signs reading "No walls, no boarders," "No deportations" and "No one is illegal."

    When ICE officials told Ragbir that he would be detained and faced imminent deportation to Trinidad, he fainted, according to his lawyer, Alina Das, and his wife, Amy Gottlieb. The word went out on social media, and still more demonstrators gathered outside the building.

    Ragbir was handcuffed and placed in an ambulance, with his wife accompanying him. Believing the ambulance was taking Ragbir to the Varick Street Detention Center, demonstrators tried to block its path, chanting Ravi's name.

    NYPD officers responded violently, shoving people out of the way. Some demonstrators sat down in front of the ambulance, including New York City Council member Ydanis Rodriguez, who wrote on Twitter later that the NYPD put him in a chokehold. City Council member Jumaane Williams was also arrested and was captured on video being cuffed against the hood of a car.

    The police also arrested New Sanctuary Coalition faith leader Father Juan Carlos Luis, who shouted, "We want Ravi with us. He is family. He needs to be free," while zip-tied behind an NYPD van. Some 18 demonstrators were arrested in the protest.

    Curious to see if this was another Fr. Berrigan, I did some searching. Father Juan Carlos Luis, despite what you might suppose, is a Lutheran pastor.

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  40. I had an aunt with narcolepsy and she would faint when something shocking happened, when she laughed too hard, or at any kind of shock or surprise. She was not able to drive a car because of it. Also when she would be coming out of it and people would notice it would cause her to faint again.

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  41. When officials told him that he was going to be detained and deported, Mr. Ragbir fainted

    I’ve been asking to see Mexican/immigrant tears since before the election. Tears would be preferable, but I’ll take fainting.

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  42. More like this! The non-white genocide explanation of all this is the highly profitable human warehousing racket. Every one of these “advocates” from this guy to the police chief of San Antonio should be publicly arrested and paraded in front of cameras.

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  43. OT:

    Girl claimed someone cut her hijab with scissors, but it was a hoax:

    http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-police-say-hijab-cutting-incident-never-happened-investigation-is-closed

    The Prime Minister of Canada called the lying-lier before the police investigation had started. Oops.

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    Until police departments and prosecutors start charging these people with the crimes of perjury and lying to the police these hate-whitey hate crimes (aka "hoaxes") are never going to stop.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    The Prime Minister of Canada called the lying-liar before the police investigation had started. Oops.

    Not "oops" as far as Princess Rock Star Trudeau is concerned. He got his virtue-signaling in just under the wire.
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  44. @Sean
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/06/17/trumps_sister_commands_respect_from_her_judicial_bench_130894.html

    The linked article on Trump's sister mentioned she brought She Who Must be Obeyed's huddled masses thing into a case and said also claimed that "Neither of my parents had English as a first language"

    Frightening .

    “Neither of my parents had English as a first language”

    Maybe that explains this startling insightful “political analysis” [sic]:

    Donald Trump speaks at a fourth-grade level, the lowest of last 15 U.S. presidents, according to analysis
    Aris Folley, AOL.com

    President Donald Trump connects with the American people by using a language that even a fourth grader could understand, according to a recently published analysis by Factbase on the speech patterns of the last 15 U.S. presidents.

    The analysis looked at the first 30,000 words each president spoke in office and ranked each of the presidents’ speech — going back to Herbert Hoover — using the Flesch-Kincaid grade level scale and several other tests that commonly analyze English-language difficulty levels.

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    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history_lesson/2010/09/rewinding_the_kennedynixon_debates.html

    Ironically, though, at the time of the debates, not everyone agreed that the candidates shortchanged a discussion of the issues. For all the laments that Kennedy and Nixon postured excessively, or that TV focused too much on smiles and stubble, many analysts assessed the contests differently. For them, the problem with the debates lay not in their lack of substance but in the rapid-fire barrage of information-rich answers, which made it hard for viewers to take some kind of broader measure of the two men. "Not even a trained political observer," noted the journalist Douglass Cater, who moderated one debate, "could keep up with the crossfire of fact and counterfact, of the rapid references to Rockefeller Reports, Lehman amendments, prestige analyses, GNP and a potpourri of other so-called facts. Or was the knack of merely seeming well-informed what counted with the viewer?" Public opinion expert Samuel Lubell came to a similar conclusion. He cited voters he interviewed who "tried to make sense of the arguments of the candidates 'but the more we listened, the more confused we got.' "
     


    https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED075870
    Speech as a mode of communication and speech education as a means of training for proficiency in the use of this mode are assuming increased importance in light of McLuhan's assertion that electronic media is replacing print as the main source of information and entertainment. Emphasis upon the uniqueness and independence of the oral mode, a direct consequence of McLuhanism, encourages the development of bodies of theory and systems of criticism specifically addressed to it. The re-evaluation of traditional criteria and standards, based upon literary standards, becomes necessary. Rhetoricians are called upon to develop non-linear patterns of speech organization and to evaluate the predominately linear systems of proof based on enthymeme and example. Also, speech educators who are concerned with devising curricula, organizing courses, and selecting instructional materials must take into account the new world awareness of their students produced by the electronic "global village."
     

    https://philosophyinatimeoferror.com/2010/04/02/interview-with-graham-harman/

    The most masterful speakers and writers we know are those who do not make their subject directly present, but indirectly. One example is metaphor. If you take Max Black’s example of a (rather mediocre) metaphor, “man is a wolf,” there is no way to parse that metaphor in prose. You cannot exhaust the metaphor with a set of discursive statements such as “man is savage, moonstruck, and travels in violent hierarchical packs,” because none of these statements ever get at what the metaphor communicates indirectly. The same goes for rhetoric. Aristotle thinks they key to rhetoric is the enthymeme, which is when you say something without saying it. [...] Reality itself is not the kind of thing that can be parsed in a set of clear discursive statements. Something shadowy remains in the background of every topic, and we have to allude to it rather than bluntly stating it sometimes

     

    , @Alden
    All newspapers and most magazines are written for 4th grade level readers
    , @Joe Stalin
    What did Peter G. Kokalis say decades ago in SOF:

    The more eloquent the language, the more nefarious the deed.
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  45. “But it would be utterly inhumane to send him back to Trinidad because everybody knows it’s a … oh, well, you know, actually, it looks pretty nice…”

    By the standards of black-majority countries it’s great. If President Trump called the place a shithole of course the Left would call him a racist. For the purposes of deporting this guy or anyone else, of course, we can’t send him back there because, well, the Left thinks the place is a shithole. Because it’s mostly black.

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    Here is a Hail Mary option for Ragbir to avoid deportation:

    Declare publicly and repeatedly that President Trump is RIGHT and has always been right - places like Haiti and Trinidad & Tobago are indeed sh--holes. Place the video on Youtube and on Unz.com.

    Coming from an unassailable "minority," the statement will prompt the Left to move on from the current "narrative" (aka lie).

    Perhaps Trump's operatives can work out some "removal" deferment in return.

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  46. Definition of Shithole Country:

    Country where, when you hear that you will be deported to it, you faint.

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    LOL
    , @Clyde
    This place is great. I can simply press a lol button to agree. You cannot do this in shithole countries.
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  47. OT: Narrative of Trump presidency book title:

    From Sh*thole to Sh*tstorm: The Unverified History of Donald John Trump in the White House

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  48. Would ask simply; if its’ “Trinidad and Tobago” how come you never hear about the Tobagonists? Trinis, yes. Never heard of anyone going to a beach in Tobago, or a singer for Tobago, or the national dish of Tobago.

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    I would assume that is because 90% of the residents of Trinidad and Tobago live on Trinidad. Tobago only has about 60,000 residents.
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  49. @Anonymous
    Er,.....actually, no.

    Trinidad is a typical nasty, murderous hell-hole Carribean island.

    The blacks hate the Indians, and the Indians hate the blacks.
    Anyone with any money at all will eventually be murdered by the local blacks.

    The only 'good' that ever came from Trinidad was the asphalt which paved many of Britain's roads.

    Welcome to America 2100! So diverse, so vibrant.

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  50. @Kyle Searle
    OT:

    Girl claimed someone cut her hijab with scissors, but it was a hoax:

    http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-police-say-hijab-cutting-incident-never-happened-investigation-is-closed

    The Prime Minister of Canada called the lying-lier before the police investigation had started. Oops.

    Until police departments and prosecutors start charging these people with the crimes of perjury and lying to the police these hate-whitey hate crimes (aka “hoaxes”) are never going to stop.

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  51. @eah
    it looks pretty nice:

    Even the Canadians are skeptical:

    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO - Exercise a high degree of caution -- Exercise a high degree of caution in Trinidad and Tobago due to a high crime rate.

    Having been there, I agree. Port of Spain may look okay in that tourist board photo, but it’s quite vibrant indeed.

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  52. Somewhat on-topic:

    Douthat does an apophasis on the coup by the 25th amendment:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/06/opinion/sunday/trumps-petticoat-government.html

    Indeed, it’s not any kind of secret: Even if it’s considered politically unwise for prominent Republicans to mention it, anyone who reads the papers (this one especially) knows that some combination of Trump’s personality and temperament and advancing age leave him constantly undone by the obligations of the presidency.

    In a column early in his tempestuous first year, I suggested that this obvious fact potentially justified the invocation of the 25th Amendment, which permits a president’s cabinet in consultation with the legislative branch to remove him from the White House.
    …………

    But op-ed provocations notwithstanding, the 25th Amendment option isn’t happening — not without some major presidential deterioration in the midst of a major crisis, and probably not even then. And while I blame Republicans for a thousand things that brought us to this pass, it’s too extreme to blame them for not pursuing an option that’s never been tried before, against a president who was recently and (yes) legitimately elected, especially when that option requires extraordinary coordination across the legislative and executive branches and could easily fail … with God-only-knows what kind of consequences.
    …………
    The idea of a right-populist agenda died with Bannon’s exit from the White House, the standard-issue G.O.P. agenda has little left after the tax cuts, and Trump’s authoritarian impulses, while genuine, seem unlikely to produce even aggrandizement on the scale of past presidents from F.D.R. to Nixon, because he has no competence to execute on them.

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    Don't think of pink elephants. I'll say "pink elephants" over and over again, but remember NOT to put that image in your head.
    , @guest
    Trump's greatest asset is his ability to reveal people like that for the what they really are.

    I can just imagine his mind crafting that essay, carefully aligning it just-so in order to appear reasonable and above-it-all. Meanwhile, he's a raging lunatic talking nonsense.

    Except, of course, the part about previous authoritarian presidents like FDR. We have short memories, and that guy might as well be Alfred the Great. For those who do remember, most of them don't give a fig about "authoritarianism," which is usually reserved for when people you don't like get their way. When your side exerts authority, it's the perfectly constitutional, directly-expressed, virtuous Will of the People.

    FDR, by the way, had his persona very, veeeery carefully stage-managed. If he were a twit of a country squire with orange hair and gauche manners (or, you know, a cripple and the Walking Dead in his final term), no one would know it. So what we're really upset about with Trump is that he's out there in front of the public as himself, without the intermediary priestly cast explaining him to us. Hence all the hand-wringing over tweets and leaked potty-mouth.
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  53. @Ed 4
    Trinidad and Tobago is wildly successful for a black-run country. All the measures of quality of life are multiple standard deviations from the average in such countries. It's well over 90% black too.

    What's caused its success?

    Small population size enabled it to rely on just a few industries it can run with its smart fraction and token outsiders under a system of law and government to which they have adhered rigorously? Basically Botswana. The kind of third worlders that did not throw out the baby with the bathwater when they became independent.

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  54. @peterike
    You gotta admit, "immigration rights activist" is a fantastic cover for just another immivader scam artist. So while Ragbir may be from Trinidad, he is ethnically Indian, which perfectly explains his being a scam artist (real Trinidadians aren't clever enough or ambitious enough for that kind of thing) and his cute fake fainting spell.

    I especially like how he found a hatchet-faced Jewish professional trouble maker ("immigration rights activist") to marry. Can you imagine how fun the conversations are around the seder table? What really makes me happy is how Trump's election probably drove Ms. Gottlieb out of her mind, though I suspect her husband's only thought was "How can I make some money out of this?"

    In any case, Ragbir's case is the umpteenth illustration of Peterike's Law, that Asian immigration will be vastly more destructive to America than Hispanic immigration.

    Lol, I actually googled Peterike before I realized you were quoting yourself.

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  55. @Bugg
    Would ask simply; if its' "Trinidad and Tobago" how come you never hear about the Tobagonists? Trinis, yes. Never heard of anyone going to a beach in Tobago, or a singer for Tobago, or the national dish of Tobago.

    I would assume that is because 90% of the residents of Trinidad and Tobago live on Trinidad. Tobago only has about 60,000 residents.

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  56. @Ed 4
    Trinidad and Tobago is wildly successful for a black-run country. All the measures of quality of life are multiple standard deviations from the average in such countries. It's well over 90% black too.

    What's caused its success?

    Because it’s not a [n exclusively] black run country. After slavery ended (in 1834) the British still needed cheap labor for their software houses (oops, I mean sugar plantations) so they hit upon the idea of bring over indentured servants from India. There are slightly more Indians than blacks in Trinidad – a little over 1/3 each and the remainder is mixed race including a large Afro-Indian group called Dougla (originally Indian father/black mother – more men than women came over as servants). Political control tends to switch back & forth between blacks and Indians.

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    Interesting. T&T does, to my knowledge, have an "elite" black intellectual class that educates its offspring in America. Surprised to learn about the Indians, though. My only real impression of the country is from three Trinis (all black, and quite rich) I met at university.
    , @Jay Ritchie
    Small sample size but of all the 'black' Trinis I've met most or all had recent Indian or Chinese ancestry - mainly Indian. They look very black all the same. There is a ready flow of Trini girls to work as language teachers in the UK. The location and trading links seem to give a lot of opportunity to learn French and Spanish.
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  57. @Romanian
    Somewhat on-topic:

    Douthat does an apophasis on the coup by the 25th amendment:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/06/opinion/sunday/trumps-petticoat-government.html

    Indeed, it’s not any kind of secret: Even if it’s considered politically unwise for prominent Republicans to mention it, anyone who reads the papers (this one especially) knows that some combination of Trump’s personality and temperament and advancing age leave him constantly undone by the obligations of the presidency.

    In a column early in his tempestuous first year, I suggested that this obvious fact potentially justified the invocation of the 25th Amendment, which permits a president’s cabinet in consultation with the legislative branch to remove him from the White House.
    ............

    But op-ed provocations notwithstanding, the 25th Amendment option isn’t happening — not without some major presidential deterioration in the midst of a major crisis, and probably not even then. And while I blame Republicans for a thousand things that brought us to this pass, it’s too extreme to blame them for not pursuing an option that’s never been tried before, against a president who was recently and (yes) legitimately elected, especially when that option requires extraordinary coordination across the legislative and executive branches and could easily fail … with God-only-knows what kind of consequences.
    ............
    The idea of a right-populist agenda died with Bannon’s exit from the White House, the standard-issue G.O.P. agenda has little left after the tax cuts, and Trump’s authoritarian impulses, while genuine, seem unlikely to produce even aggrandizement on the scale of past presidents from F.D.R. to Nixon, because he has no competence to execute on them.
     

    Don’t think of pink elephants. I’ll say “pink elephants” over and over again, but remember NOT to put that image in your head.

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  58. @Ed 4
    Trinidad and Tobago is wildly successful for a black-run country. All the measures of quality of life are multiple standard deviations from the average in such countries. It's well over 90% black too.

    What's caused its success?

    Oil.

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  59. @Anonymous
    Er,.....actually, no.

    Trinidad is a typical nasty, murderous hell-hole Carribean island.

    The blacks hate the Indians, and the Indians hate the blacks.
    Anyone with any money at all will eventually be murdered by the local blacks.

    The only 'good' that ever came from Trinidad was the asphalt which paved many of Britain's roads.

    “The only ‘good’ that ever came from Trinidad was the asphalt which paved many of Britain’s roads.”

    Calypso is pretty good, and they have some decent cricketers. I don’t think it’s too bad (as Caribbean places go). High GNP due to the oil and gas.

    I see they also have Indian-derived music, Pichakaree and Chutney!

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  60. The Anonymous Conservative has pointed how those he calls “narcissists” have extremely sensitive and damaged amygdalae, which makes them create a fictitious image of themselves as the center of thee universe and someone who is both a saint and admired by all and super-genius that everyone else is beneath.

    But legal proceedings against such a person can really set off their amygdale to overload and cause fainting, because they have to sit there and hear accusations and proof against them that they are not perfect/geniuses/wonderful and instead have done some bad or sometimes truly nasty things. The result is that the overload of truth on their amygdalae is enough to cause them to feel sick and pass out.

    Michael Douglas reported the worst time of his life was not discovering his son’s dead body, but when he was sued for libel and had to sit there in court and listen to the accusations against him. Rap producer Suge Knight fainted like a little girl during his trial, despite all his tough-guy pretensions.

    The idea that this sociopathic little turd fainted at the time the officials informed him that the bill gad come due makes sense. He thought he was too smart and good and perfect to ever be held accountable for his crimes, and yet here he was, losing. I’ll bet something similar happened when he was arrested and convicted in the past.

    Victorian women fainted partially because many wore corsets so tight they cut off breathing and broke their ribs, all of which they knew already but wore anyway because beauty was more important than health to them. Fainting also allowed them a way to dislodge themselves from a bad situation when they couldn’t just walk out the door, and also aroused men’s sympathies, like how today a woman will claim a man hit her or threatened her when she wants men to start ganging up on some guy who insulted her.

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  61. @CCZ
    “Neither of my parents had English as a first language”

    Maybe that explains this startling insightful "political analysis" [sic]:


    Donald Trump speaks at a fourth-grade level, the lowest of last 15 U.S. presidents, according to analysis
    Aris Folley, AOL.com

    President Donald Trump connects with the American people by using a language that even a fourth grader could understand, according to a recently published analysis by Factbase on the speech patterns of the last 15 U.S. presidents.

    The analysis looked at the first 30,000 words each president spoke in office and ranked each of the presidents' speech -- going back to Herbert Hoover -- using the Flesch-Kincaid grade level scale and several other tests that commonly analyze English-language difficulty levels.
     

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history_lesson/2010/09/rewinding_the_kennedynixon_debates.html

    Ironically, though, at the time of the debates, not everyone agreed that the candidates shortchanged a discussion of the issues. For all the laments that Kennedy and Nixon postured excessively, or that TV focused too much on smiles and stubble, many analysts assessed the contests differently. For them, the problem with the debates lay not in their lack of substance but in the rapid-fire barrage of information-rich answers, which made it hard for viewers to take some kind of broader measure of the two men. “Not even a trained political observer,” noted the journalist Douglass Cater, who moderated one debate, “could keep up with the crossfire of fact and counterfact, of the rapid references to Rockefeller Reports, Lehman amendments, prestige analyses, GNP and a potpourri of other so-called facts. Or was the knack of merely seeming well-informed what counted with the viewer?” Public opinion expert Samuel Lubell came to a similar conclusion. He cited voters he interviewed who “tried to make sense of the arguments of the candidates ‘but the more we listened, the more confused we got.’ “

    https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED075870
    Speech as a mode of communication and speech education as a means of training for proficiency in the use of this mode are assuming increased importance in light of McLuhan’s assertion that electronic media is replacing print as the main source of information and entertainment. Emphasis upon the uniqueness and independence of the oral mode, a direct consequence of McLuhanism, encourages the development of bodies of theory and systems of criticism specifically addressed to it. The re-evaluation of traditional criteria and standards, based upon literary standards, becomes necessary. Rhetoricians are called upon to develop non-linear patterns of speech organization and to evaluate the predominately linear systems of proof based on enthymeme and example. Also, speech educators who are concerned with devising curricula, organizing courses, and selecting instructional materials must take into account the new world awareness of their students produced by the electronic “global village.”

    https://philosophyinatimeoferror.com/2010/04/02/interview-with-graham-harman/

    The most masterful speakers and writers we know are those who do not make their subject directly present, but indirectly. One example is metaphor. If you take Max Black’s example of a (rather mediocre) metaphor, “man is a wolf,” there is no way to parse that metaphor in prose. You cannot exhaust the metaphor with a set of discursive statements such as “man is savage, moonstruck, and travels in violent hierarchical packs,” because none of these statements ever get at what the metaphor communicates indirectly. The same goes for rhetoric. Aristotle thinks they key to rhetoric is the enthymeme, which is when you say something without saying it. [...] Reality itself is not the kind of thing that can be parsed in a set of clear discursive statements. Something shadowy remains in the background of every topic, and we have to allude to it rather than bluntly stating it sometimes

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  62. @Ed 4
    Trinidad and Tobago is wildly successful for a black-run country. All the measures of quality of life are multiple standard deviations from the average in such countries. It's well over 90% black too.

    What's caused its success?

    “Trinidad and Tobago is wildly successful for a black-run country. All the measures of quality of life are multiple standard deviations from the average in such countries. It’s well over 90% black too.” Mulattoes, Indians, oil, and the fact that it was a British colony. The one-third African population contribute Detroit’s murder rate. The smart fraction of Africans are in the US living white.

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  63. @Kyle Searle
    OT:

    Girl claimed someone cut her hijab with scissors, but it was a hoax:

    http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-police-say-hijab-cutting-incident-never-happened-investigation-is-closed

    The Prime Minister of Canada called the lying-lier before the police investigation had started. Oops.

    The Prime Minister of Canada called the lying-liar before the police investigation had started. Oops.

    Not “oops” as far as Princess Rock Star Trudeau is concerned. He got his virtue-signaling in just under the wire.

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  64. @Ed 4
    Trinidad and Tobago is wildly successful for a black-run country. All the measures of quality of life are multiple standard deviations from the average in such countries. It's well over 90% black too.

    What's caused its success?

    Not 90% black. Half the population are African former slaves and the other half are Asian Indian former identured workers, ie, slaves for the term of the contract. Split right down the middle and the wealth all come from industrious Indians who save for tomorrow while blacks fight for government jobs to suck on the Indian-created wealth. Thats’s the good blacks, the others devise methods of robbery.

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    Sounds like America. Good blacks in government jobs, the bad ones robbers and another race makes all the money.
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  65. @Romanian
    Somewhat on-topic:

    Douthat does an apophasis on the coup by the 25th amendment:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/06/opinion/sunday/trumps-petticoat-government.html

    Indeed, it’s not any kind of secret: Even if it’s considered politically unwise for prominent Republicans to mention it, anyone who reads the papers (this one especially) knows that some combination of Trump’s personality and temperament and advancing age leave him constantly undone by the obligations of the presidency.

    In a column early in his tempestuous first year, I suggested that this obvious fact potentially justified the invocation of the 25th Amendment, which permits a president’s cabinet in consultation with the legislative branch to remove him from the White House.
    ............

    But op-ed provocations notwithstanding, the 25th Amendment option isn’t happening — not without some major presidential deterioration in the midst of a major crisis, and probably not even then. And while I blame Republicans for a thousand things that brought us to this pass, it’s too extreme to blame them for not pursuing an option that’s never been tried before, against a president who was recently and (yes) legitimately elected, especially when that option requires extraordinary coordination across the legislative and executive branches and could easily fail … with God-only-knows what kind of consequences.
    ............
    The idea of a right-populist agenda died with Bannon’s exit from the White House, the standard-issue G.O.P. agenda has little left after the tax cuts, and Trump’s authoritarian impulses, while genuine, seem unlikely to produce even aggrandizement on the scale of past presidents from F.D.R. to Nixon, because he has no competence to execute on them.
     

    Trump’s greatest asset is his ability to reveal people like that for the what they really are.

    I can just imagine his mind crafting that essay, carefully aligning it just-so in order to appear reasonable and above-it-all. Meanwhile, he’s a raging lunatic talking nonsense.

    Except, of course, the part about previous authoritarian presidents like FDR. We have short memories, and that guy might as well be Alfred the Great. For those who do remember, most of them don’t give a fig about “authoritarianism,” which is usually reserved for when people you don’t like get their way. When your side exerts authority, it’s the perfectly constitutional, directly-expressed, virtuous Will of the People.

    FDR, by the way, had his persona very, veeeery carefully stage-managed. If he were a twit of a country squire with orange hair and gauche manners (or, you know, a cripple and the Walking Dead in his final term), no one would know it. So what we’re really upset about with Trump is that he’s out there in front of the public as himself, without the intermediary priestly cast explaining him to us. Hence all the hand-wringing over tweets and leaked potty-mouth.

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    If he were a twit of a country squire with orange hair and gauche manners
     
    Now now, that's no way to talk about HRH Prince Henry of Wales, Knight Commander of the Royal Victorian Order (blimey you'd never get all that on a pub sign, no wonder they stick to shields and stuff).
    I have it on good authority that he is in fact a stand-up bloke and almost as smart as he looks.

    In fact I think we should have a revolution to depose the Parliamentarians, skip Chaz, and his brother, and install him as King. Wifey could become "The Black Princess", feared by all foreigners and most of all the Frogs, as God intended.
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  66. @eah
    it looks pretty nice:

    Even the Canadians are skeptical:

    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO - Exercise a high degree of caution -- Exercise a high degree of caution in Trinidad and Tobago due to a high crime rate.

    It’s true they have a high crime rate but, let’s face it, he’ll fit right in. The fact is he brought the islands’ corrupt culture with him and he committed crimes as a result. Who knows what he got away with. In my opinion, he’s typical of what the US gets from shitholes.

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  67. @Hippopotamusdrome
    Definition of Shithole Country:

    Country where, when you hear that you will be deported to it, you faint.

    LOL

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  68. Mr. Ragbir, 53, the executive director of the New Sanctuary Coalition of New York City, had shown up for a check-in with Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Thursday morning, at the Jacob K. Javits Federal Building in Lower Manhattan.

    Oh the irony of having some post ’65 immigrant being detained at the Jacob K. Javits Federal Building. In case any of you are unfamiliar with Senator Javits, he was one of the key pushers of the 1965 Hart-Celler Act.

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  69. @Brabantian
    From Château Heartiste:

    The newest generation, Generation Z (born end of the 1990s or later), is getting very right wing

    86% of USA white boys of generation Z would have voted for Trump

    70% of USA white girls of generation Z would have voted for Trump

    If Generation Z had done all the voting, Trump would have won 45 of the 50 US states

    In Europe the trend is moving along similarly, tho with some lag to the US as is typical

    If this is true, which is debatable, it is good news since people tend to get more conservative as they get older (raising families, paying taxes, etc.). I imagine there is an important demographic component as well.

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  70. @Jack D
    Because it's not a [n exclusively] black run country. After slavery ended (in 1834) the British still needed cheap labor for their software houses (oops, I mean sugar plantations) so they hit upon the idea of bring over indentured servants from India. There are slightly more Indians than blacks in Trinidad - a little over 1/3 each and the remainder is mixed race including a large Afro-Indian group called Dougla (originally Indian father/black mother - more men than women came over as servants). Political control tends to switch back & forth between blacks and Indians.

    Interesting. T&T does, to my knowledge, have an “elite” black intellectual class that educates its offspring in America. Surprised to learn about the Indians, though. My only real impression of the country is from three Trinis (all black, and quite rich) I met at university.

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  71. @Jack D
    Because it's not a [n exclusively] black run country. After slavery ended (in 1834) the British still needed cheap labor for their software houses (oops, I mean sugar plantations) so they hit upon the idea of bring over indentured servants from India. There are slightly more Indians than blacks in Trinidad - a little over 1/3 each and the remainder is mixed race including a large Afro-Indian group called Dougla (originally Indian father/black mother - more men than women came over as servants). Political control tends to switch back & forth between blacks and Indians.

    Small sample size but of all the ‘black’ Trinis I’ve met most or all had recent Indian or Chinese ancestry – mainly Indian. They look very black all the same. There is a ready flow of Trini girls to work as language teachers in the UK. The location and trading links seem to give a lot of opportunity to learn French and Spanish.

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  73. @Ed 4
    Trinidad and Tobago is wildly successful for a black-run country. All the measures of quality of life are multiple standard deviations from the average in such countries. It's well over 90% black too.

    What's caused its success?

    Trinidad and Tobago is wildly successful for a black-run country

    Trinidad and Tobago

    34.22% African

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    Should've taken two seconds to google. I've had it touted to me as such, didn't realize it was that low.

    I would bet, however, that a much larger proportion has at least some African ancestry
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  74. The book The Deporter by Ames Holbrook explains the many slips between the deportation order and actually putting them on a plane.

    He was an ICE agent whose job was removing them from the detention center and putting them in the plane.

    There were many obstacles. Last resort was the deportee having a hysterical fit and being denied boarding on the grounds he would be dangerous on the flight.

    After the deportation order, the country of Origin has to agree to take their national back.
    Many don’t take those back who have criminal records. China won’t take back the elderly because China uses the USA as their pension system. Mexico uses us as their trash can
    Many countries don’t take their criminal nationals back. Mexico and China are among the worst offenders

    The book is very revealing.

    OT a 300 pd creature names Oprah is in the TV screeching about weight watchers. I guess she is supposed to make 200 of women feel better about their weight.

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    First, thanks for the book recommendation.

    Many don’t take those back who have criminal records. China won’t take back the elderly because China uses the USA as their pension system. Mexico uses us as their trash can
    Many countries don’t take their criminal nationals back. Mexico and China are among the worst offenders
     
    And don't forget Vietnam. Just last month I read about a Vietnamese guy who murdered a whole family in San Francisco. (I was shocked that a Bay Area jury actually convicted the guy.) Turns out he should have been deported ten years ago because of his last convictions, but instead Bush signed an agreement with the Vietnamese saying they didn't have to take back criminals and illegals who arrived before 1995. So he stayed.

    http://lompocrecord.com/news/state-and-regional/jury-finds-man-guilty-in-san-francisco-quintuple-homicide/article_570643ae-1e8c-55b0-bf7a-9dc081197f60.html

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  75. @Sean
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/06/17/trumps_sister_commands_respect_from_her_judicial_bench_130894.html

    The linked article on Trump's sister mentioned she brought She Who Must be Obeyed's huddled masses thing into a case and said also claimed that "Neither of my parents had English as a first language"

    Frightening .

    So nobody spoke English in the early 20th century Bronx? And Hebrideans were not forcibly schooled in The Queen’s English?
    Mary “her second language being English, which she learned at Tong school where it was reported she was a star pupil” McLeod?

    How very Trumpean, eliding history like that. If she’d said grandparents I might have believed her.
    Or did she and Fred converse in Pfälzisch and Gàidhlig, while totally ignoring their noisy Italian, Polish and Jewish neighbors? Thus explaining the effect on their poor children.

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    Trump seems to talk a language Jews understand. It is an alarming portent that a judge feels the need to mislead and quote poems* as if they were the Declaration of Independence.


    *Emmas Lazerus, like Israel ' Melting pot Zangwill, became a Zionist in her latter years.

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  76. @guest
    "Hands up, don't deport!"

    “I’m Fainting!”, maybe. Look good on a T shirt, ya tink? BTW: Barry was married to a hot shot lawyer named John Barry, who did some work for Trump. He also defended some guy named Crazy Eddie. Crazy Eddie did “wacky” ads for his retail electronics chain. Given that New York is like one big family, I wonder if Crazy Eddie was the inspiration for Seinfeld’s so funny “No One Beats The Wiz” lunatic, the publicity craving boyfriend of Elaine. And of course Bannon owned a piece of Seinfeld. So…it like all fits.

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    When I spent a couple of weeks looking for a job in NYC in 1982, it struck me that New Yorkers (or at least New Yorkers in the marketing biz) seemed to believe the three most famous men in the world were:

    1. George Steinbrenner
    2. Frank Perdue
    3. Crazy Eddie

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  78. Slightly OT: This guy says DJT (PBUH) is quietly doing something about H1B in IT. I hope he’s right.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/7pnc4s/trump_quietly_working_behind_the_scenes_on_h1b/

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  79. @Hippopotamusdrome
    Definition of Shithole Country:

    Country where, when you hear that you will be deported to it, you faint.

    This place is great. I can simply press a lol button to agree. You cannot do this in shithole countries.

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  80. @Father O'Hara
    "I'm Fainting!", maybe. Look good on a T shirt, ya tink? BTW: Barry was married to a hot shot lawyer named John Barry, who did some work for Trump. He also defended some guy named Crazy Eddie. Crazy Eddie did "wacky" ads for his retail electronics chain. Given that New York is like one big family, I wonder if Crazy Eddie was the inspiration for Seinfeld's so funny "No One Beats The Wiz" lunatic, the publicity craving boyfriend of Elaine. And of course Bannon owned a piece of Seinfeld. So...it like all fits.

    When I spent a couple of weeks looking for a job in NYC in 1982, it struck me that New Yorkers (or at least New Yorkers in the marketing biz) seemed to believe the three most famous men in the world were:

    1. George Steinbrenner
    2. Frank Perdue
    3. Crazy Eddie

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  81. @Achmed E. Newman
    They aren't all like this. This man is black mark that is a stain on the robes of the otherwise saintly Trinidadian-Tobogan-Americans. Wait, or are there separate Trinidadian-Americans and Tobogan-Americans? Have we ever had any Trinidadian-Tobogan-American Attorneys-General? Where is William F. Buckley when you need him for something actually useful?

    He is in his grave,sir. A grave in a no doubt quite prosperous Catholic cemetery. Probably quite beautiful. But if you would visit there at night beware. It is said that those who dare to tread on his grave in the wee hours may sometimes detect,amid the whistling of the wind through the stately oaks and lovely elms, a voice, one that is old and cracked. If one listens keenly, ever so carefully, he may detect a fervent plea in the plaintive howl of the wind. Let him close his eyes and hear: “Are yoooooo an anti-Semite? Depart from here! Depart!”

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    Very erudite and witty comment, good sir. My point about Mr. Buckley, which you probably caught, was that this guy had one hell of a good command of English, and always spoke so calmly and politely. He would know the proper name for the T&T's and were he to ever have set his pompous ass inside a Burger King he would order "Two Whoppers Junior", not "Two Whopper Juniors", like some illiterate peon.

    Actually, the Onion article on this was about William Safire, dammit! I'm goin' with Bill Buckley anyway. He's too dead to sue me. The joke stands!

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  82. @guest
    Trump's greatest asset is his ability to reveal people like that for the what they really are.

    I can just imagine his mind crafting that essay, carefully aligning it just-so in order to appear reasonable and above-it-all. Meanwhile, he's a raging lunatic talking nonsense.

    Except, of course, the part about previous authoritarian presidents like FDR. We have short memories, and that guy might as well be Alfred the Great. For those who do remember, most of them don't give a fig about "authoritarianism," which is usually reserved for when people you don't like get their way. When your side exerts authority, it's the perfectly constitutional, directly-expressed, virtuous Will of the People.

    FDR, by the way, had his persona very, veeeery carefully stage-managed. If he were a twit of a country squire with orange hair and gauche manners (or, you know, a cripple and the Walking Dead in his final term), no one would know it. So what we're really upset about with Trump is that he's out there in front of the public as himself, without the intermediary priestly cast explaining him to us. Hence all the hand-wringing over tweets and leaked potty-mouth.

    If he were a twit of a country squire with orange hair and gauche manners

    Now now, that’s no way to talk about HRH Prince Henry of Wales, Knight Commander of the Royal Victorian Order (blimey you’d never get all that on a pub sign, no wonder they stick to shields and stuff).
    I have it on good authority that he is in fact a stand-up bloke and almost as smart as he looks.

    In fact I think we should have a revolution to depose the Parliamentarians, skip Chaz, and his brother, and install him as King. Wifey could become “The Black Princess”, feared by all foreigners and most of all the Frogs, as God intended.

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    "Skip Chaz, and his brother, and install him as King."

    You'd have to skip over George and Charlotte, too. (Why are the chicks in line all of a sudden?) Plus Will's next kid, if you don't move quickly.

    I don't know who'd be afraid of Meghan Markel, except probably Harry.

    By the way, I meant to say Cheeto hair instead of orange hair, but had autocorrect problems and gave up. Which invites the question: Does Prince Harry of Wales have Cheeto hair?
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  83. It looks like there may be a cult of personality around Ravi Ragbir of the sort that I have not seen since the golden age of Mumia Abdu-Jamal. And just like the Mumia cult, Ravi Ragbir is far from the ideal candidate for Leftist cult worship.

    Video of the NYPD confronting the cultists has definite Bonfire of The Vanities vibes. The goateed fellow asking for an officer’s badge number is none other than City Council Speaker Corey Johnson who the NY Times has complained is Too White. There are several Council Members in this video. What a clown show.

    The “clergyman” pushed at 2:07 is activist gadfly Reverend Billy who has turned immigration and global warming into religious causes. He is supposed to be a comedic parody of a preacher, but I actually think he started a new religion of his own in the process.

    On the positive side, the NYPD is sporting hairstyles that would not be out of place on the French Mobile Gendarmerie.

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    Thanks.
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  84. @Clyde
    This socialist website says Ravi brought a mob with him. My take is his fainting was fake. Done to allow his supporters to rally others via smart phone. https://socialistworker.org/2018/01/15/we-stand-with-ravi-ragbir


    But supporters of Ragbir, who is executive director of the New Sanctuary Coalition, have been preparing for this day. Hundreds of Ravi's supporters had already encircled ICE's New York City headquarters when he went inside for his appointment.They conducted a silent Jericho walk while holding signs reading "No walls, no boarders," "No deportations" and "No one is illegal."

    When ICE officials told Ragbir that he would be detained and faced imminent deportation to Trinidad, he fainted, according to his lawyer, Alina Das, and his wife, Amy Gottlieb. The word went out on social media, and still more demonstrators gathered outside the building.

    Ragbir was handcuffed and placed in an ambulance, with his wife accompanying him. Believing the ambulance was taking Ragbir to the Varick Street Detention Center, demonstrators tried to block its path, chanting Ravi's name.

    NYPD officers responded violently, shoving people out of the way. Some demonstrators sat down in front of the ambulance, including New York City Council member Ydanis Rodriguez, who wrote on Twitter later that the NYPD put him in a chokehold. City Council member Jumaane Williams was also arrested and was captured on video being cuffed against the hood of a car.

    The police also arrested New Sanctuary Coalition faith leader Father Juan Carlos Luis, who shouted, "We want Ravi with us. He is family. He needs to be free," while zip-tied behind an NYPD van. Some 18 demonstrators were arrested in the protest.

    Amy Gottlieb, why am I not surprised.

    Jews sure have a high out marriage rate. The men tend to outmarry ordinary American White women. But Jewish women go for as exotic as possible.

    On the other hand, it may have been a green card marriage.

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    Don't the men stereotypically enjoy Asian women? Or is that just for happy good funtime?
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  85. @Clifford Brown
    It looks like there may be a cult of personality around Ravi Ragbir of the sort that I have not seen since the golden age of Mumia Abdu-Jamal. And just like the Mumia cult, Ravi Ragbir is far from the ideal candidate for Leftist cult worship.

    Video of the NYPD confronting the cultists has definite Bonfire of The Vanities vibes. The goateed fellow asking for an officer's badge number is none other than City Council Speaker Corey Johnson who the NY Times has complained is Too White. There are several Council Members in this video. What a clown show.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxNdK_2BTXQ

    The “clergyman” pushed at 2:07 is activist gadfly Reverend Billy who has turned immigration and global warming into religious causes. He is supposed to be a comedic parody of a preacher, but I actually think he started a new religion of his own in the process.

    On the positive side, the NYPD is sporting hairstyles that would not be out of place on the French Mobile Gendarmerie.

    Thanks.

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  86. @Hippopotamusdrome


    Trinidad and Tobago is wildly successful for a black-run country

     

    ...


    Trinidad and Tobago
    ...
    34.22% African

     

    Should’ve taken two seconds to google. I’ve had it touted to me as such, didn’t realize it was that low.

    I would bet, however, that a much larger proportion has at least some African ancestry

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    I think that's right. Aside from the S. Asian (Indian) community (just slightly larger than the black community) and a few % of whites and E. Asians, almost everyone else is mixed race (with black in the mix) - either Black-Indian (these form a distinctive group called Dougla) or Black-something else. While in Trinidad the mixed race people might not be considered "black", most Americans would think of them that way under our "one-drop" rule. E.g. Nicki Minaj. Since the Indians that came over were from the south and pretty brown to begin with, Douglas look, by American standards, about as black as many African-Americans (who are themselves mixed race) but in the islands finer gradations are understood.
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  87. @CCZ
    “Neither of my parents had English as a first language”

    Maybe that explains this startling insightful "political analysis" [sic]:


    Donald Trump speaks at a fourth-grade level, the lowest of last 15 U.S. presidents, according to analysis
    Aris Folley, AOL.com

    President Donald Trump connects with the American people by using a language that even a fourth grader could understand, according to a recently published analysis by Factbase on the speech patterns of the last 15 U.S. presidents.

    The analysis looked at the first 30,000 words each president spoke in office and ranked each of the presidents' speech -- going back to Herbert Hoover -- using the Flesch-Kincaid grade level scale and several other tests that commonly analyze English-language difficulty levels.
     

    All newspapers and most magazines are written for 4th grade level readers

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  88. @Achmed E. Newman
    At the extreme risk of being publicly called out as an Eeyore, I will state that lots of the enforcement actions going on in this administration are small potatoes - see VDare's Federale with 7-Eleven Raids Not Exactly A Reign Of Terror–Only 21 Arrests. More Action Needed!. However, if we can make people faint, but more importantly, wisk guys like this scum to detention in Miami via ambulance and aircraft, it puts the fear in some of the others that are not numerate enough to know they probably have no worries.

    Is this 4-D chess by our President? Nah, but it just works out good. The best part is that the "journalists" like this Liz Robbins are inadvertently spreading the fear around. Yes, they know that fear and indignation sells papers to whatever idiots still get them, but the inadvertent part is the implantation in the puny minds of other immigration scammers that maybe they and their clients are next, which is probably not the case, as enforement is not being done in any comprehensive, large-scale manner .... YET, I hope.

    In the meantime, putting the fear in them works for a while.

    Since you didn’t run immediately to DRUMPF IS JUST LIKE HILLARY Ill give you a serious response on the various spanners in the gears:

    1) The yuge one is a 9th Circus case that went under the wire of most people, which the Obama Administration did a ‘sue and settle’ with. To wit, there is a very narrow time frame that you can hold a so called “family unit” in prison before you issue them a NTA/WA and kick them down the road.

    2) For a while the solution to this was “separate fucking everyone”. As in you remove the kid from the parent, send the kid to foster care, and then hit the parent with 1325, 1326a1/a2/b2 and call it a day. However news travels slow, so it took some time for that news to get to Central American. So they kept coming and then having Hispanic panic when they realised they were going to jail and their kids were going to foster care. However, the homes filled up fast.

    3) So now we are currently watching the water rise, and people are trying to figure out what the hell to do next. The Ninth Circus has a lot of High Mucketymucks on edge because they know there’s a good chance that any solution they have is going to have some pro-criminal group run to an insane judge who will issue a nationwide injunction, and they’re not willing to set up the infrastructure to deal with a million Central Americans running at the border with their babies held up high (a la Elysium’s ending), only to have that infrastructure sit idle while the Ninth massages law into pudding to get what it wants.

    Right now there’s two schools of thought: Let the situation get so bad that any judge doing an injunction rolls the dice on being impeached by Congress or simply pulling the trigger and letting the system work things out with the inevitable 5-4 ruling of SCOTUS and then doing what they were going to do anyway.

    Just saying, there’s a lot going on you guys aren’t seeing, and its not Trump’s fault. Right now Homan has the right idea in that no one, no where is safe. Which is why there are 7-11 raids and what not. That being said, the judiciary needs to have a rather big check applied against it in the form of impeachment. That’s not Trump’s call tho. That originates in Congress. Let them pull the trigger versus the Usual Suspects using it as a way to score cheap points from the Left against Trump.

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    No, Jack, that's not something I would ever have said. No matter what the ups-and-downs with the stuff out of this guy, I would never, ever have denied that we dodged a bullet that day.

    Now, I do appreciate the details from you in this and your subsequent comment about the law enforcement and judicial goings on wrt immigration. I hope I can learn more from you on this. There is a guy named Federale on VDare that writes a lot about the type of stuff you know about. Have you read much of his writings? He gives more of the big-picture stuff, but your details still give an idea of what is really going on at the levels below the muckety-mucks.
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  89. @Achmed E. Newman
    At the extreme risk of being publicly called out as an Eeyore, I will state that lots of the enforcement actions going on in this administration are small potatoes - see VDare's Federale with 7-Eleven Raids Not Exactly A Reign Of Terror–Only 21 Arrests. More Action Needed!. However, if we can make people faint, but more importantly, wisk guys like this scum to detention in Miami via ambulance and aircraft, it puts the fear in some of the others that are not numerate enough to know they probably have no worries.

    Is this 4-D chess by our President? Nah, but it just works out good. The best part is that the "journalists" like this Liz Robbins are inadvertently spreading the fear around. Yes, they know that fear and indignation sells papers to whatever idiots still get them, but the inadvertent part is the implantation in the puny minds of other immigration scammers that maybe they and their clients are next, which is probably not the case, as enforement is not being done in any comprehensive, large-scale manner .... YET, I hope.

    In the meantime, putting the fear in them works for a while.

    My bonus 4) Immigration Judges are playing games with their dockets. Since IJs are administrative judges, it doesn’t take much to hire them. Since many of them are former immigration attorneys, its obvious where some sympathies lie. The average IJ is similar in outlook to someone like Gabriel Malor.

    You’d see shit like the IJ asking a clear cut inadmissible at entry to give his life story over a week, talking about how the cartels made him smuggle drugs or else they would kill his sick mother (who he smuggled drugs to buy medicine for) , with the IJ nodding sympathetically along….only for the AUSA to point out on Friday afternoon that this is the alien’s third 841 charge and he refused to turn mat witness against the others who supposedly forced him to smuggle. At this point the IJ becomes very stern and wags his finger at a sheepishly grinning illegal, and then Monday there’s an 80/20 split that he orders the alien removed versus dissembling for another week about what a tragedy the alien’s life is.

    And this is a clear cut narcotics mule! Get some dude with a slew of 1326a2 convictions and it could take 2 weeks as he describes every illegal entry to feed every tia/abuela/madre/esposa possible even though he’s a reinstate of a prior order and has absolutely no legal leg to be in the USA, the IJ will start looking for any reason to keep the alien here, even coaching him towards a credible fear claim.

    The IJ has another weapon in his “alien always wins” arsenal, and that is the recess of the court, where the IJ can’t make sense of the very black and white facts on front of them, and recesses to a “later date”, which might as well be never. The alien walks, not legal, but might as well be.

    IJs always like to present themselves as “Dios mios! My docket is so overloaded! That’s why I’m backed up!” And totally not because they ran their court rooms like little kingdoms and would tell the AUSA that they are on the IJs time.

    AG Sessions has put the IJs on notice that he’s onto their tricks and is reviewing their minutes, and they are reacting like affronted women, upset that for once in decades (maybe since Janet Reno) they’re being held accountable and not allowed to dance around the word and verse of the INA and being told to follow it as prescribed.

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  90. @Clyde
    This socialist website says Ravi brought a mob with him. My take is his fainting was fake. Done to allow his supporters to rally others via smart phone. https://socialistworker.org/2018/01/15/we-stand-with-ravi-ragbir


    But supporters of Ragbir, who is executive director of the New Sanctuary Coalition, have been preparing for this day. Hundreds of Ravi's supporters had already encircled ICE's New York City headquarters when he went inside for his appointment.They conducted a silent Jericho walk while holding signs reading "No walls, no boarders," "No deportations" and "No one is illegal."

    When ICE officials told Ragbir that he would be detained and faced imminent deportation to Trinidad, he fainted, according to his lawyer, Alina Das, and his wife, Amy Gottlieb. The word went out on social media, and still more demonstrators gathered outside the building.

    Ragbir was handcuffed and placed in an ambulance, with his wife accompanying him. Believing the ambulance was taking Ragbir to the Varick Street Detention Center, demonstrators tried to block its path, chanting Ravi's name.

    NYPD officers responded violently, shoving people out of the way. Some demonstrators sat down in front of the ambulance, including New York City Council member Ydanis Rodriguez, who wrote on Twitter later that the NYPD put him in a chokehold. City Council member Jumaane Williams was also arrested and was captured on video being cuffed against the hood of a car.

    The police also arrested New Sanctuary Coalition faith leader Father Juan Carlos Luis, who shouted, "We want Ravi with us. He is family. He needs to be free," while zip-tied behind an NYPD van. Some 18 demonstrators were arrested in the protest.

    “No walls, no boarders,”

    That’s nice: you can come in but you are not staying at my place.

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  91. @Ed
    He’s getting deported, they’re just waiting for his docs and a full plane. He’s been convicted of felonies and federal ones to boot. Bush and Obama really dropped the ball on deportations, actually Obama was better than Bush but skirted on interior enforcement.

    No, he wasn’t. He greased the books to count illegals caught near the border (VRs and ERs) as deportations. Prosecution for actual immigration violations was a pipe dream.

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  92. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT, Department Of Not Seeing The Bleeding Obvious (hence keeping your media job)

    Ian Buruma

    "Why Is Japan Populist-Free?"

    Ian Buruma is a smart guy but his refusal to “go there” has made him pretty irrelevant.

    His book on the murder of Theo van Gogh is a shocker:

    Buruma argues that conservatives have “commandeered” the liberal values of the European Enlightenment to portray Islam and Western culture as “competing, hostile versions of absolute truth.”[1]
    Buruma argues that murderers like the young Muslim who killed Theo van Gogh are driven to action by the failure of Dutch society to recognize them as full members of Dutch society, their new homeland.[1]
    He concluded with a vague hope that reason and civility will prevail.[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_Amsterdam

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  93. @Bill B.
    Ian Buruma is a smart guy but his refusal to "go there" has made him pretty irrelevant.

    His book on the murder of Theo van Gogh is a shocker:

    Buruma argues that conservatives have "commandeered" the liberal values of the European Enlightenment to portray Islam and Western culture as "competing, hostile versions of absolute truth."[1]
    Buruma argues that murderers like the young Muslim who killed Theo van Gogh are driven to action by the failure of Dutch society to recognize them as full members of Dutch society, their new homeland.[1]
    He concluded with a vague hope that reason and civility will prevail.[2]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_Amsterdam

    Is Buruma an Israeli dual citizen?

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    Have not yet established but he is nephew to Jewish film director John Schlesinger. Only citizenship I find him claiming is still Dutch, despite living in New York now and having lived (and married) in Japan for years. Does Netherland allow dual citizenship?
    , @Bill B.

    Is Buruma an Israeli dual citizen?
     
    I have never seen that; he has I believe a Dutch passport, is married to a Japanese writer and of course lives in the States.

    His mother was Jewish but brought up in a secular English environment and his father was Dutch protestant, albeit I think lapsed.

    I have always sensed Buruma to be, FWIW, rather a cold fish who occupies a rather slippery position where any genuine attachments - for all he bangs on endlessly about identity - are disguised or hidden, to the extent that they exist.
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  94. @CCZ
    “Neither of my parents had English as a first language”

    Maybe that explains this startling insightful "political analysis" [sic]:


    Donald Trump speaks at a fourth-grade level, the lowest of last 15 U.S. presidents, according to analysis
    Aris Folley, AOL.com

    President Donald Trump connects with the American people by using a language that even a fourth grader could understand, according to a recently published analysis by Factbase on the speech patterns of the last 15 U.S. presidents.

    The analysis looked at the first 30,000 words each president spoke in office and ranked each of the presidents' speech -- going back to Herbert Hoover -- using the Flesch-Kincaid grade level scale and several other tests that commonly analyze English-language difficulty levels.
     

    What did Peter G. Kokalis say decades ago in SOF:

    The more eloquent the language, the more nefarious the deed.

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  95. @Jack Hanson
    Since you didn't run immediately to DRUMPF IS JUST LIKE HILLARY Ill give you a serious response on the various spanners in the gears:

    1) The yuge one is a 9th Circus case that went under the wire of most people, which the Obama Administration did a 'sue and settle' with. To wit, there is a very narrow time frame that you can hold a so called "family unit" in prison before you issue them a NTA/WA and kick them down the road.

    2) For a while the solution to this was "separate fucking everyone". As in you remove the kid from the parent, send the kid to foster care, and then hit the parent with 1325, 1326a1/a2/b2 and call it a day. However news travels slow, so it took some time for that news to get to Central American. So they kept coming and then having Hispanic panic when they realised they were going to jail and their kids were going to foster care. However, the homes filled up fast.

    3) So now we are currently watching the water rise, and people are trying to figure out what the hell to do next. The Ninth Circus has a lot of High Mucketymucks on edge because they know there's a good chance that any solution they have is going to have some pro-criminal group run to an insane judge who will issue a nationwide injunction, and they're not willing to set up the infrastructure to deal with a million Central Americans running at the border with their babies held up high (a la Elysium's ending), only to have that infrastructure sit idle while the Ninth massages law into pudding to get what it wants.

    Right now there's two schools of thought: Let the situation get so bad that any judge doing an injunction rolls the dice on being impeached by Congress or simply pulling the trigger and letting the system work things out with the inevitable 5-4 ruling of SCOTUS and then doing what they were going to do anyway.

    Just saying, there's a lot going on you guys aren't seeing, and its not Trump's fault. Right now Homan has the right idea in that no one, no where is safe. Which is why there are 7-11 raids and what not. That being said, the judiciary needs to have a rather big check applied against it in the form of impeachment. That's not Trump's call tho. That originates in Congress. Let them pull the trigger versus the Usual Suspects using it as a way to score cheap points from the Left against Trump.

    No, Jack, that’s not something I would ever have said. No matter what the ups-and-downs with the stuff out of this guy, I would never, ever have denied that we dodged a bullet that day.

    Now, I do appreciate the details from you in this and your subsequent comment about the law enforcement and judicial goings on wrt immigration. I hope I can learn more from you on this. There is a guy named Federale on VDare that writes a lot about the type of stuff you know about. Have you read much of his writings? He gives more of the big-picture stuff, but your details still give an idea of what is really going on at the levels below the muckety-mucks.

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  96. @trini
    Not 90% black. Half the population are African former slaves and the other half are Asian Indian former identured workers, ie, slaves for the term of the contract. Split right down the middle and the wealth all come from industrious Indians who save for tomorrow while blacks fight for government jobs to suck on the Indian-created wealth. Thats's the good blacks, the others devise methods of robbery.

    Sounds like America. Good blacks in government jobs, the bad ones robbers and another race makes all the money.

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  97. @Clyde
    This socialist website says Ravi brought a mob with him. My take is his fainting was fake. Done to allow his supporters to rally others via smart phone. https://socialistworker.org/2018/01/15/we-stand-with-ravi-ragbir


    But supporters of Ragbir, who is executive director of the New Sanctuary Coalition, have been preparing for this day. Hundreds of Ravi's supporters had already encircled ICE's New York City headquarters when he went inside for his appointment.They conducted a silent Jericho walk while holding signs reading "No walls, no boarders," "No deportations" and "No one is illegal."

    When ICE officials told Ragbir that he would be detained and faced imminent deportation to Trinidad, he fainted, according to his lawyer, Alina Das, and his wife, Amy Gottlieb. The word went out on social media, and still more demonstrators gathered outside the building.

    Ragbir was handcuffed and placed in an ambulance, with his wife accompanying him. Believing the ambulance was taking Ragbir to the Varick Street Detention Center, demonstrators tried to block its path, chanting Ravi's name.

    NYPD officers responded violently, shoving people out of the way. Some demonstrators sat down in front of the ambulance, including New York City Council member Ydanis Rodriguez, who wrote on Twitter later that the NYPD put him in a chokehold. City Council member Jumaane Williams was also arrested and was captured on video being cuffed against the hood of a car.

    The police also arrested New Sanctuary Coalition faith leader Father Juan Carlos Luis, who shouted, "We want Ravi with us. He is family. He needs to be free," while zip-tied behind an NYPD van. Some 18 demonstrators were arrested in the protest.

    When ICE officials told Ragbir that he would be detained and faced imminent deportation to Trinidad, he fainted, according to his lawyer, Alina Das, and his wife, Amy Gottlieb.

    Does Amy Gottlieb have blue hair and wear problem glasses? What was her weight at the time she got married to the Caribbean felon?

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  98. @Alden
    Amy Gottlieb, why am I not surprised.

    Jews sure have a high out marriage rate. The men tend to outmarry ordinary American White women. But Jewish women go for as exotic as possible.

    On the other hand, it may have been a green card marriage.

    Don’t the men stereotypically enjoy Asian women? Or is that just for happy good funtime?

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  99. @Alden
    The book The Deporter by Ames Holbrook explains the many slips between the deportation order and actually putting them on a plane.

    He was an ICE agent whose job was removing them from the detention center and putting them in the plane.

    There were many obstacles. Last resort was the deportee having a hysterical fit and being denied boarding on the grounds he would be dangerous on the flight.

    After the deportation order, the country of Origin has to agree to take their national back.
    Many don’t take those back who have criminal records. China won’t take back the elderly because China uses the USA as their pension system. Mexico uses us as their trash can
    Many countries don’t take their criminal nationals back. Mexico and China are among the worst offenders

    The book is very revealing.

    OT a 300 pd creature names Oprah is in the TV screeching about weight watchers. I guess she is supposed to make 200 of women feel better about their weight.

    First, thanks for the book recommendation.

    Many don’t take those back who have criminal records. China won’t take back the elderly because China uses the USA as their pension system. Mexico uses us as their trash can
    Many countries don’t take their criminal nationals back. Mexico and China are among the worst offenders

    And don’t forget Vietnam. Just last month I read about a Vietnamese guy who murdered a whole family in San Francisco. (I was shocked that a Bay Area jury actually convicted the guy.) Turns out he should have been deported ten years ago because of his last convictions, but instead Bush signed an agreement with the Vietnamese saying they didn’t have to take back criminals and illegals who arrived before 1995. So he stayed.

    http://lompocrecord.com/news/state-and-regional/jury-finds-man-guilty-in-san-francisco-quintuple-homicide/article_570643ae-1e8c-55b0-bf7a-9dc081197f60.html

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  100. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT, Department Of Not Seeing The Bleeding Obvious (hence keeping your media job)

    Ian Buruma

    "Why Is Japan Populist-Free?"

    OT, Department Of Not Seeing The Bleeding Obvious (hence keeping your media job)

    Ian Buruma

    “Why Is Japan Populist-Free?”

    Ian Buruma, by the way, is the new editor of the New York Review of Books, succeeding the long time editor Robert Silvers, who died several months back. Any changes in the editorial mix that may be happening are occurring very slowly.

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    The New York Review of Books generally features grown-ups.
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  101. @Laugh Track

    OT, Department Of Not Seeing The Bleeding Obvious (hence keeping your media job)

    Ian Buruma

    “Why Is Japan Populist-Free?”
     
    Ian Buruma, by the way, is the new editor of the New York Review of Books, succeeding the long time editor Robert Silvers, who died several months back. Any changes in the editorial mix that may be happening are occurring very slowly.

    The New York Review of Books generally features grown-ups.

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  102. “Mr. Ragbir became an immigrant rights activist because of his own case.”. No kidding. I recently became a drivers’ rights activist after my most recent speeding ticket.

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    Obama became a crusader against racial profiling because he got a lot of speeding tickets.
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  103. @Anonymous
    Is Buruma an Israeli dual citizen?

    Have not yet established but he is nephew to Jewish film director John Schlesinger. Only citizenship I find him claiming is still Dutch, despite living in New York now and having lived (and married) in Japan for years. Does Netherland allow dual citizenship?

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  104. @Expletive Deleted

    If he were a twit of a country squire with orange hair and gauche manners
     
    Now now, that's no way to talk about HRH Prince Henry of Wales, Knight Commander of the Royal Victorian Order (blimey you'd never get all that on a pub sign, no wonder they stick to shields and stuff).
    I have it on good authority that he is in fact a stand-up bloke and almost as smart as he looks.

    In fact I think we should have a revolution to depose the Parliamentarians, skip Chaz, and his brother, and install him as King. Wifey could become "The Black Princess", feared by all foreigners and most of all the Frogs, as God intended.

    “Skip Chaz, and his brother, and install him as King.”

    You’d have to skip over George and Charlotte, too. (Why are the chicks in line all of a sudden?) Plus Will’s next kid, if you don’t move quickly.

    I don’t know who’d be afraid of Meghan Markel, except probably Harry.

    By the way, I meant to say Cheeto hair instead of orange hair, but had autocorrect problems and gave up. Which invites the question: Does Prince Harry of Wales have Cheeto hair?

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  105. @SnakeEyes
    "Mr. Ragbir became an immigrant rights activist because of his own case.". No kidding. I recently became a drivers' rights activist after my most recent speeding ticket.

    Obama became a crusader against racial profiling because he got a lot of speeding tickets.

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    Heading home to the South Side from Man Country?
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  106. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @JollyOldSoul
    "But it would be utterly inhumane to send him back to Trinidad because everybody knows it’s a … oh, well, you know, actually, it looks pretty nice..."

    By the standards of black-majority countries it's great. If President Trump called the place a shithole of course the Left would call him a racist. For the purposes of deporting this guy or anyone else, of course, we can't send him back there because, well, the Left thinks the place is a shithole. Because it's mostly black.

    Here is a Hail Mary option for Ragbir to avoid deportation:

    Declare publicly and repeatedly that President Trump is RIGHT and has always been right – places like Haiti and Trinidad & Tobago are indeed sh–holes. Place the video on Youtube and on Unz.com.

    Coming from an unassailable “minority,” the statement will prompt the Left to move on from the current “narrative” (aka lie).

    Perhaps Trump’s operatives can work out some “removal” deferment in return.

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  107. Leftist hysteria over the sh*thole comment shows they are frightened of an honest discussion of race, intelligence, achievement and civilization.

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  108. @Anonymous
    Is Buruma an Israeli dual citizen?

    Is Buruma an Israeli dual citizen?

    I have never seen that; he has I believe a Dutch passport, is married to a Japanese writer and of course lives in the States.

    His mother was Jewish but brought up in a secular English environment and his father was Dutch protestant, albeit I think lapsed.

    I have always sensed Buruma to be, FWIW, rather a cold fish who occupies a rather slippery position where any genuine attachments – for all he bangs on endlessly about identity – are disguised or hidden, to the extent that they exist.

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  109. @Ed 4
    Trinidad and Tobago is wildly successful for a black-run country. All the measures of quality of life are multiple standard deviations from the average in such countries. It's well over 90% black too.

    What's caused its success?

    I taught a course at the university there a log time ago. I was astonished at the intellectual quality of the black students i came into contact with. Far above what you would expect in the USA.

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    Maybe they got a better quality of African to begin with. And the British had a pretty good educational system. Their slavery ended earlier and once the slaves were liberated they were treated better than in the American South. There was never the family killing welfare system that we set up. The university students are there not because of affirmative action so they are more qualified. The usual suspects of nature and nurture and incentives.
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  110. @Expletive Deleted
    So nobody spoke English in the early 20th century Bronx? And Hebrideans were not forcibly schooled in The Queen's English?
    Mary "her second language being English, which she learned at Tong school where it was reported she was a star pupil" McLeod?

    How very Trumpean, eliding history like that. If she'd said grandparents I might have believed her.
    Or did she and Fred converse in Pfälzisch and Gàidhlig, while totally ignoring their noisy Italian, Polish and Jewish neighbors? Thus explaining the effect on their poor children.

    Trump seems to talk a language Jews understand. It is an alarming portent that a judge feels the need to mislead and quote poems* as if they were the Declaration of Independence.

    *Emmas Lazerus, like Israel ‘ Melting pot Zangwill, became a Zionist in her latter years.

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  111. @Pericles
    "Jumaane D. Williams". Is that some sort of semitic rapper?

    I dread to think what illiterate jumble of nonsense the D stands for

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  112. @Ed 4
    Should've taken two seconds to google. I've had it touted to me as such, didn't realize it was that low.

    I would bet, however, that a much larger proportion has at least some African ancestry

    I think that’s right. Aside from the S. Asian (Indian) community (just slightly larger than the black community) and a few % of whites and E. Asians, almost everyone else is mixed race (with black in the mix) – either Black-Indian (these form a distinctive group called Dougla) or Black-something else. While in Trinidad the mixed race people might not be considered “black”, most Americans would think of them that way under our “one-drop” rule. E.g. Nicki Minaj. Since the Indians that came over were from the south and pretty brown to begin with, Douglas look, by American standards, about as black as many African-Americans (who are themselves mixed race) but in the islands finer gradations are understood.

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  113. @Foreign Expert
    I taught a course at the university there a log time ago. I was astonished at the intellectual quality of the black students i came into contact with. Far above what you would expect in the USA.

    Maybe they got a better quality of African to begin with. And the British had a pretty good educational system. Their slavery ended earlier and once the slaves were liberated they were treated better than in the American South. There was never the family killing welfare system that we set up. The university students are there not because of affirmative action so they are more qualified. The usual suspects of nature and nurture and incentives.

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  114. Update the Haitian co-founder of Ravi’s group:

    Last week, a co-founder of New Sanctuary in New York was detained; Jean Montrevil, a native of Haiti, was picked up near his home in Far Rockaway, Queens, two weeks before a scheduled check-in.

    Has been deported back to Haiti:

    Montrevil was deported from Miami to Haiti this morning, according to multiple immigration activists close to his family.

    http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/new-york-immigrant-activists-ragbir-montrevil-held-in-miamis-krome-processing-center-face-deportation-9996632

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  115. @Father O'Hara
    He is in his grave,sir. A grave in a no doubt quite prosperous Catholic cemetery. Probably quite beautiful. But if you would visit there at night beware. It is said that those who dare to tread on his grave in the wee hours may sometimes detect,amid the whistling of the wind through the stately oaks and lovely elms, a voice, one that is old and cracked. If one listens keenly, ever so carefully, he may detect a fervent plea in the plaintive howl of the wind. Let him close his eyes and hear: "Are yoooooo an anti-Semite? Depart from here! Depart!"

    Very erudite and witty comment, good sir. My point about Mr. Buckley, which you probably caught, was that this guy had one hell of a good command of English, and always spoke so calmly and politely. He would know the proper name for the T&T’s and were he to ever have set his pompous ass inside a Burger King he would order “Two Whoppers Junior”, not “Two Whopper Juniors”, like some illiterate peon.

    Actually, the Onion article on this was about William Safire, dammit! I’m goin’ with Bill Buckley anyway. He’s too dead to sue me. The joke stands!

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  116. @Steve Sailer
    Obama became a crusader against racial profiling because he got a lot of speeding tickets.

    Heading home to the South Side from Man Country?

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