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Ross Douthat writes in the NYT:

Why Isn’t Marco Rubio Winning?
Ross Douthat JAN. 28, 2016 501 COMMENTS

… In the month after that confrontation, Bush’s national numbers slipped into the lower single digits, while Rubio’s climbed steadily. In early December, he and Ted Cruz both had about 15 percent support in the national polls, below Donald Trump but well above all the other professional politicians in the race. It seemed as if they were rising in tandem, and that Rubio was destined to be the establishment’s preferred candidate in a three-man race with Cruz and Trump — and based on past results, the likely nominee.

But instead, Rubio hit a ceiling, while Cruz continued to climb. And despite a long series of “moments” when he was supposed to consolidate his position, the Florida senator is still basically stuck. He’s hovering just above 10 percent in national polls and in New Hampshire, trailing Cruz and Trump by a clear margin in Iowa, and still lagging Jeb in the endorsement primary.

Nobody’s sure why. …

Here are some possible explanations:

It’s all about immigration. In a race dominated by Trumpian nationalism, and with immigration restriction increasingly a litmus test for many conservative voters, Rubio’s role in the “Gang of Eight” immigration bill is plainly a liability. Possibly enough of a liability, in fact, to deny him the nomination.

At the same time, though, there are still lots of Republican voters who don’t consider the immigration issue a top priority, and lots of Republican donors and elected officials for whom Rubio’s “Gang of Eight” support is probably an asset. So immigration might explain why he trails Trump and Cruz in Iowa, but not why he can’t put away Jeb, Chris Christie and John Kasich.

It’s all Jeb’s fault. …

Rubio’s a little too conservative. …

Then there also might be a more personal element as well …

Rubio seems a little too ambitious.

Here’s another idea: Rubio is the human epitomization of the Republican billionaire class’s evident desire to turn the United States into Latin America Norte, with its vast inequalities of wealth, rigged social systems, and fragile rule of law. This urge isn’t as annoying in Rubio as it is in the perversely anti-American ¡Jeb¡ because Rubio’s loyalty to the Latin American way of doing things is understandably natural and personally conservative (in the sense of Rubio having concentric loyalties that start with the Miami Cuban community).

But Americans have very good reasons for not wanting their country to turn further into an outpost of Latin America. In retrospect, Rubio was well-positioned by ethnicity to instead lead resistance to the billionaires’ hopes to worsen the Latinization of our country (on the Nixon-goes-to-China principle of politics).

Whether Rubio ever had the imagination to have seized that opportunity is unknown. But, as far as I can tell, it never even occurred to anybody important whom Rubio talks to. Instead the Republican Brain Trust decided it was a brilliant idea for Rubio, being Latino, to lead the amnesty / guest worker push to Latinize the country, kind of like, if you wanted detente with Russia and China in 1968, you’d have drafted Alger Hiss to run for President.

 

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  1. 24 years of callowness in the White House is enough.

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  2. I’m not one prone to diatribes about conspiracies, shady deals in smoke-filled back rooms, and the nefarious maneuvering and machinations of the wealthy and powerful but for pete’s sake, you can practically see the puppet strings attached to Rubio’s limbs.

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  3. Contra the day by day more insightful Mr Douthat, I am sure about one reason why young Mr Rubio is not winning. Right now, he looks like an eternal sophomore who forgot to show up on the first day of school when the sophomores became juniors. It is simple as that. Rick Santorum, Pat Buchanan, even Ted Cruz could have told him what he needed to do to look enough like a leader to win an election outside of his own state, but he may not have listened.

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  4. The issue goes beyond immigration. It goes to matters of trust. Republican voters, whether they care about immigration or not, are largely tired of being betrayed on any number of issues that are completely unrelated to immigration. Rubio epitomizes the Republican politicians who constantly betray their constituents. Ted Cruz does not. Ted Cruz is also clearly a lot smarter than Rubio, who comes across as a lightweight and a [insert gay euphemism here].

    Also I think that Rubio’s fortunes sink, ironically, as he increasingly becomes seen as the establishment candidate in the mix. When Bush, Kasich, and Christie were still serious possibilities there were candidates to Rubio’s left. Now there are none. He’s the candidate on the left, and a flagrantly dishonest one.

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  5. Because Rubio doesn’t have tiger blood?

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  6. I like Rubio, but I like Cruz and Trump more.

    I have been hoping that Rubio would give a long, thoughtful speech about participating in the Gang of Eight like Obama gave a long, thoughtful speech about attending Jeremiah Wright’s church. It’s still not too late for Rubio to do so.

    Instead, Rubio’s statements on the subject have been canned and glib.

    It’s not so much that I want him to repent. I want him to explain in much more detail how he became involved in the Gang of Eight and what decisions and agreements he made during the process. I want to know the lessons he learned.

    The most important thing that Rubio needs to do in this campaign is to deal effectively with the immigration issue. He is squandering his opportunity to become the US President.

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  7. He looks like a boy.

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  8. He looks like a little kid and people can sense he’s not very smart. You can tell that he’s like a wind up doll with all the right answers that he memorized.

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  9. ” In retrospect, Rubio was well-positioned by ethnicity to instead lead resistance to the billionaires’ hopes ”

    it is a tough club to join going that way:

    >In a never-before-reported meeting in Bush’s Dallas office, Cruz began to outline his 2012 campaign playbook for the former president, according to people familiar with the conversation. Cruz explained how he would consolidate conservatives yearning for a political outsider, how he would outflank the front-runner on the right, how he would proudly carry the mantle of the ascendant tea party to victory over entrenched elites.

    It was impressive foreshadowing. But Bush cut Cruz off before he could finish.

    “I guess you don’t want my support,” Bush interrupted. “Ted, what the hell do you think I am?”<

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/ted-cruz-2016-establishment-george-bush-213561#ixzz3yb6pqpn9

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  10. Jeb isn’t anti-American. He is neo-American.

    He sees America as Canada-US-Mexico.

    And even though Mexican masses do pour into the US, Jeb knows that the closer Canada-US-Mexico becomes, US will dominate at the elite level.

    As Jeb belongs to the elite class that will dominate all of neo-America, he sees it as something positive.

    As US-Mexico merge closer, US will gain elite control over Mexico. Globalism destroyed mass power. So, even though Mexers will pour in the US, they won’t rule. Look at CA. Totally ruled by Jews and whites with Asians as middle managers. Mexers are just lettuce pickers and busboys.

    At the mass level, it is true enough that US in being invaded by masses of foreigners. But at the elite level, it means US is taking over the world.
    Look at the Middle East. US takes in immigrants but has used might, money, and diplomacy to totally remake the place.

    At mass level, Americans lose to the world. At the elite level, the world loses to America. US elites rule all. “We take your people, you give up your sovereignty.”
    And US elites care about their own power, not about the American people.

    Also, Jewish elites have another ‘nation’ in their mind. It is Kosheria, and it stretches from NY to Chicago to LA to Tel Aviv to Paris to London to Warsaw and etc to etc wherever there are agents and operative of Kosheria. To people like Soros, even the US is must a colony in the larger Kosheria or Koshmir.

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  11. This urge isn’t as annoying in Rubio as it is in the perversely anti-American ¡Jeb¡ because Rubio’s loyalty to the Latin American way of doing things is understandably natural and personally conservative (in the sense of Rubio having concentric loyalties that start with the Miami Cuban community).

    Rubio is loyal to Latin America; Jeb Bush is a traitor to Anglo-America.’Nuff said.

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  12. I hate this “only Nixon can go to China” BS. I am seeing Michelle Malkin article on Breitbart, along with some Raheem Kasssam. Why can’t I get my fix of nativist news and opinion from genuine actual white people? Because someone will think I’m racist? Who cares? I certainly don’t.

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  13. They just asked Bush about Puerto Rican statehood, and pointed out that only 25% of the island is employed. This guy….

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    His sordid past certainly doesn’t help, assuming that it is now, um, behind him and that he’s not currently practicing:

    http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/marco-rubios-childhood-friend-tied-to-miamis-most-infamous-gay-porn-case-8203133

    Barrios suddenly found his long-forgotten after-hours police stop in a Brickell park thrust into national headlines last week, when the Washington Post dredged up the 1990 incident. But the Post missed the crime’s most eye-opening tie to Florida’s junior senator.

    Decades after his legal run-in with Rubio, Barrios was associated with perhaps the most notorious gay porn ring in Miami history …

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  15. I don’t spend much time thinking about why who is beating whom when where in which polls etc. I’m sure there’s some science to it but the vast majority is just random guessing. Maybe Rush has been extra hard on Rube-io.

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  16. The non-Trumps are behaving like crabs in a bucket. As one rises up to be the clear second place runner, the others pull him back down because they want to be in second place. Guess who all this helps.

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  17. Steve, you completely misundertand Nixon and detente. Early Bolshevism in Russia was leftist, but it was destroyed by Stalin, who was conservative in every way that mattered. After that old Communists started calling themselves anti-Communists. They started the Cold War to recapture Russia. Which they did in the 1990s.

    Nixon was smart enough to undertand most of that. He hated original Communists, who became anti-Communists after Stalin came to power. Hating old Communists and getting along with the post-WWII USSR was a consistent position. No turnaround was needed. No change of worldview. Nor did he have to be forced into this by anything.

    I remember reading somewhere about Nixon, as president, remarking to someone that the USSR was morally pure (or innocent or some such adjective). He meant public morals – no filth in TV, etc.

    So he did understand this whole thing. I don’t think you do. It’s the main plotline of global politics of the last century. In short, the Cold War was not about what you think it was about.

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  18. Desiderius – Sadly, had you said 28 years you would have been even more correct. Rem acu tetigisteritis.

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  19. Although genes do matter, culture plays a significant if not overwhelming role in these matters. I’d accept a hundred million people like Malkin and Kassam into the US if, in exchange, I could expel every “genuine actual white person” who pushes an anti-white agenda.

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  20. Boom. Sailer lays bare the motivations of all the Rubio cucks. In fairness, Douthat does have the more important looking goatee.

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  21. Go to Taki’s, Chateau Heartiste, or rightstuff.biz, or countless others I can’t even think of. There are lots of places now.

    Hell, Breitbart himself was half-Jewish. (Does he get one set of parentheses?)

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  22. Interesting. Can you elaborate or point towards a further discussion on this?

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  23. Breitbart is mostly pretty good. But I take your point, there may be others that provide the same sort of thing.

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  24. This is a bid odd, and does not fit the topic of discussion at all, but you don’t have an open thread so I have no option but to post this here. Sorry if this is me, misunderstanding the Internet once again.

    When I went back to one of your first postings and clicked to see your review of “Monster’s Ball” I got the message:

    NOTICE OF HACKING
    The link which forwarded your browser to this webpage may have come from a website which has was hacked for the purpose of redirecting consumers to websites selling counterfeit products. Accordingly, the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida has ordered that the intermediary domain names which control traffic from potentially hacked websites be taken into the custody of the court and redirected to this webpage. Unfortunately, taking control of these domains does not undo the hacking of the original legitimate website, so the website may still be at risk.

    If you believe your website may have been compromised, please contact your host or webmaster for information on how to fix the problem and secure your website. Online resources such as StopBadware.org can provide you with more information.

    More information about the Federal Lawsuit which resulted in the creation of this webpage can be found at: http://servingnotice.com/Lmf4ry-Kxd6us/

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    Yeah, VDare runs Malkin’s articles for the same reason, and it’s completely phony. I mean their logo is a white doe, they’re named after the first white child born in North America, and anyone can infer from the content and tone of some of the articles that hosting Malkin’s articles there is some sort of half-assed attempt to appear “diverse”. What’s the point? Who cares at that point?

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  26. I remember reading somewhere that President Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines was not smart but that he was like a monkey, that is, very clever at imitation, in particular at imitations of smart people (personally, I doubt this). These words seem more applicable to Rubio. Moreover, if anything, he sorta projects the vibe of a guy who left his balls at home.

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    I remember reading somewhere about Nixon, as president, remarking to someone that the USSR was morally pure (or innocent or some such adjective). He meant public morals – no filth in TV, etc.

    You’re thinking of one of the NIxon tapes in which Nixon discusses Archie Bunker, homosexuality, Bohemian Grove, amongst other things:

    NIXON: You know what happened to the Greeks! Homosexuality destroyed them. Sure, Aristotle was a homo. We all know that. So was Socrates.

    EHRLICHMAN: But he never had the influence television had.

    NIXON: You know what happened to the Romans? The last six Roman emperors were fags. The last six. Nero had a public wedding to a boy. You know what happened to the popes? They were layin’ the nuns; that’s been goin’ on for years, centuries. But the Catholic Church went to hell three or four centuries ago. It was homosexual, and it had to be cleaned out. That’s what’s happened to Britain. It happened earlier to France.

    Let’s look at the strong societies. The Russians. Goddamn, they root ‘em out. They don’t let ‘em around at all. I don’t know what they do with them. Look at this country. You think the Russians allow dope? Homosexuality, dope, immorality, are the enemies of strong societies.

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  28. Donald Trump dominated the debate without even attending it. He smoked everyone with his veterans’ rally, which looked like a lot of fun and raised over six million dollars. Opposite him over at FOX, the two Cubans and the special-needs adult were arguing with each other over who was the bigger Latin lover.

    And Ross Douthat looks for reasons?

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  29. Glossy – Paragraph one: Stalin was pro-choice and pro-murder. Two strikes against the conservative view point. Paragraph Two: Nixon was effectively pro-choice, and, yes, he understood the similarly pro-choice Brezhnev in a way that almost nobody on the internets understands. That is not all that much to Nixon’s credit – what is to his credit is his refusal to allow, in the goodness of his heart, little countries be demolished and enslaved. He was, from that point of view, the greatest peacemaker of his times. Third paragraph: Nixon dated and married a Hollywood star. He was a coddled Navy officer. It is not his fault he did not understand public morals. Fourth paragraph: The Cold War is easy to understand. Everybody was more or less bad, but once in a while some of the more or less bad people (Roy Cohn, for an example that will gladden the hearts of those who love to hate on their fellow Americans) realized that other bad people (Hiss) were really really bad, and had the courage to do something about it. Or maybe that Powers guy was the only one who was right.

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  30. Question: Does anyone know how to make those inverted question marks and exclamation points?

    It’s like, man! Jeb! is good but that added extra something behind it really gives it a kick and makes the point. Would be a helluva campaign ad as in: “Jeb! (with the upside side exclamation) is he really for America?”

    Darn it. Is it a special keyboard or how do you type those anyway?

    PS: Trump’s event tonight was awesome. Really a strong home run, ad not a bad speaker to boot.

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  31. Rubio has gay-face. And most likely gay proclivities. Angel Barrios.

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  32. Uh, Andrew was adopted. There’s a video of him speaking to a pro-life meeting at CPAC about it.

    He is only “half-Jewish” in the strained sense of having had a convert adoptive mother. He said his upbringing was secular Jewish.

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  33. Yeah, reality bugs me too… Once you grow up you’ll realize that someone perceived to be speaking against interest (Malkin, Kassam) nabs more attention over the garden-variety bitter clinger. This is the way of the world.

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  34. Steve, you completely misundertand Nixon and detente. Early Bolshevism in Russia was leftist, but it was destroyed by Stalin, who was conservative in every way that mattered.

    So, following your theory, Leftists are off the hook for:

    1932-33 Famine: Approx 6 million dead, 3 million in Ukraine alone

    GULAG Deaths, 1929-53: 1,053,829 official deaths for 1934-53. Of course, those figures don’t include people who died during the period 1929-33. And they don’t include people who died en route to the GULAG, or shortly after release, or while in custody awaiting transport, etc. Factoring in estimates for those deaths, and a conservative estimate for 1929-53 GULAG deaths would be approx 1.6 million

    Executions during the 1937-38 Great Terror: 682,691 official executions. 247,157 of these executions occurred during “ethnic operations.” Cf the Polish Action, during which 111,091 ethnic Poles were killed (in some cases, the execution quotas were met by selecting people with Polish names out of the phone book).

    Ethnic Cleansing Operations during WW2 (Chechens, etc): 231,000 official deaths

    Baltic operations:

    Kenneth Christie, Historical Injustice and Democratic Transition in Eastern Asia and Northern Europe: Ghosts at the Table of Democracy (2002)
    Lithuanian, Latvian and Estonians (1940-41): 85,000 deported, of which 55,000 killed or died
    Baltics executed during reconquest (1944-45): 30,000
    Postwar partisan war
    Lithuanians: 40-50,000 k.
    Latvian: 25,000
    Estonians: 15,000

    Massacres of Poles:

    21,892 Polish citizens shot by the Soviet NKVD in the Katyn* massacres of spring 1940 and 9,817 Polish citizens shot in June 1941

    etc, etc,

    I remember reading somewhere about Nixon, as president, remarking to someone that the USSR was morally pure (or innocent or some such adjective). He meant public morals – no filth in TV, etc.

    Well, he certainly wasn’t talking about any other kind…

    They started the Cold War to recapture Russia.

    Dunno; one tends to assume that Stalin’s acquisition of an empire extending well into Central Europe had something to do with it…

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    Vasily Mikhailovich Blokhin (Russian: Васи́лий Миха́йлович Блохи́н, 7 January 1895 – 3 February 1955) was a Soviet Russian Major-General who served as the chief executioner of the Stalinist NKVD under the administrations of Genrikh Yagoda, Nikolai Yezhov, and Lavrentiy Beria.

    Hand-picked for the position by Joseph Stalin in 1926, Blokhin led a company of executioners that performed and supervised numerous mass executions during Stalin’s reign, mostly during the Great Purge and World War II.[2] He is recorded as having executed tens of thousands of prisoners by his own hand, including his killing of about 7,000 Polish prisoners of war during the Katyn massacre in spring 1940,[2][3] making him the most prolific official executioner and mass murderer in recorded world history

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Blokhin

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  35. It’s a bizarre and twisted theory. At the heart of it, glossy mistakes stability for conservatism and ignores a lot of “inconvenient” details. He thinks Stalin didn’t have total power over the country in the early thirties when collectivization killed millions of peasants and completely transformed the Soviet countryside (“conservative?”) while consolidating Soviet rule. He conveniently ignores that Stalin executed an estimated 100,000 Russian Orthodox priests who weren’t willing to totally subordinate themselves to the Soviet state, and that Stalin finished off most of what was left of the old Russian aristocracy (an excellent and heartbreaking book – Former People by Douglas Smith – describes this). He forgets that those parts of the Slavic world that were least exposed to Stalinism remain most traditional in their lifestyles and morality. But for glossy, because Stalin made the Soviet state stable he was a conservative. For this reason, glossy maintains that North Korea is a very conservative state also.

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  36. I’d accept a hundred million people like Malkin and Kassam into the US if, in exchange, I could expel every “genuine actual white person” who pushes an anti-white agenda.

    That’s futile. If whites don’t survive as a majority population in their own countries, taking in other races who express pro-white views is no substitute. And in the long run, the majority of non-whites will always look out for their own racial interests.

    I don’t know of Kassam, but Malkin seems more of a neocon anyhow.

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  37. “I like Rubio, but I like Cruz and Trump more.”

    I am puzzled why you would be comfortable to have any one of those three, as if there is no difference in their political positions. I think Cruz got his opportunity tonight to be the lead dog, and imo he blew it. I think anybody watching tonight’s debate would be extremely uncomfortable with Ted Cruz. I think Rand Paul nailed it with his characterization of Cruz. Rubio is a complete lightweight liar with a penchant to wage endless wars, in accordance with the desires of his wealthy backers who are clearly pulling his strings.

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  38. Hell, Breitbart himself was half-Jewish. (Does he get one set of parentheses?)

    From the looks of him, Andrew Breitbart was 150% Irish. Actually, he was adopted by a Jew and a convert to Judaism, so if environment is 50% of how we turn out then he was half Jewish. But genetically I highly doubt he had more than negligible Jewish ancestry, if any at all.

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  39. Nobody’s sure why. …

    I haven’t looked closely at all the Republicans, but Cruz appears to be the smartest of the top four Republican candidates. And he seems smarter than the two Democrats.

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  40. Cruz is VERY smart and very Joe Isuzu-ish. He’s verbally fluent and yeah, a master debater, but you can see him plan every_damn_pause, just like a Mike Huckabee, who practiced his deliveries for years from the pulpit.

    Cruz=smarmy.

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  41. - Rubio very much comes across as another slick lying politician who will say whatever he needs to to get elected – been there, done that.

    - He one of the least intelligent candidates, down there with Jeb. Most of the people running are very intelligent, he is not.

    - He married a Dolphins cheerleader who didn’t graduate her crummy college. I can’t respect a man who doesn’t choose his spouse with better care – one giant reason I can’t stand Jeb Bush.

    - I don’t want a Hispanic in the White House – the beat down on whites will continue on as Hispanic Lives Matter.

    - Lots of whispers of impropriety about him from financial to marital issues.

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  42. had you said 28 years you would have been even more correct.

    Perhaps I was too callow myself at the time to remember accurately, but I got the sense that the HW White House wasn’t so bad, as opposed to it’s head, where you’re sadly correct.

    The Myers/McClellan/Earnest brigade came in in 1992.

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  43. Yes, and Rubio would be doing so much better if he had been clever and hidden them by fighting the Gang of 7….Steve’s analysis is 100% on target.

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    Yes he looked very Irish. I always just assumed he was Irish. He looked like the Irish actor Colm Meaney:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colm_Meaney

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  45. The other day I posted a message comparing the Reuters polls of August 2015 and the Reuters polls of January 2016. http://www.unz.com/isteve/trump-is-essentially-the-republican-partys-bill-clinton/#comment-1308970

    The most interesting thing to me is that Trump has gone from 17.8% in August to 41.6% in January while Jeb!!! has dropped from 15.8% to 8%. Nevertheless, Rubio has only gone from 7% to 7.9%. That would appear to give the lie to the argument that support for some of the “establishment” candidates will migrate to other “establishment” candidates if they drop out. The figures show that Trump has picked up most of the support that used to go to Jeb!!! and not Rubio.

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  46. There’s probably an easier trick. But google upside down exclamation mark and then copy and paste. Or just copy and paste someone else’s.

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  47. Speaking of the RNC braintrust, anyone see this article? http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/republicans-point-fingers-who-let-trump-get-this-far-218260

    This is what passes for brains in the Republican Party:

    “Sally Bradshaw, a longtime top Bush adviser who helped write the report, blamed a “lack of courage in our party” for the failure to take on Trump, as Bush has. She called Trump a “bigot” and said he “couldn’t unite our party and bring women, Hispanics and independent voters into the fold.”

    The stupid truly runs deep. But at least one guy has part of it figured out. From Curt Anderson, a former Republican National Committee political director and veteran operative:

    ““If you want to know how to lose elections, the first people who you should talk to are the Republican Party’s major donors.”

    Ya think? You mean the folks who thought running a corporate raider in the middle of a middle class busting recession would be a good idea?

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  48. Desiderius – In my humble opinion, the Bush who won in 1988 was a very old (albeit chronologically middle-aged) man who had been an extremely brave young man with a good education and with wonderful examples to follow. Any of us, even including our exceptional contemporaries who were almost or even more brave in their youth than the elder Bush, could have failed to live up to the education and examples they were given. Bush the elder did fail, for simple reasons (my guess is that he was happy to be a fairly mediocre, even Wodehousian guy, who simply did not spend enough time in prayer and reading the Bible).

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  49. Desiderius – In my humble opinion, the Bush who won in 1988 was a very old (albeit chronologically middle-aged) man who had been an extremely brave young man with a good education and with wonderful examples to follow. Any of us, even including our exceptional contemporaries who were almost or even more brave in their youth than the elder Bush, could have failed to live up to the education and examples they were given. Bush the elder did fail, for simple reasons (my guess is that he was happy to be a fairly mediocre, even Wodehousian guy, who simply did not spend enough time in prayer and reading the Bible).

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  50. Does anyone know how to make those inverted question marks and exclamation points?

    On stone age PCs, Alt 173 makes ¡ and Alt 168 makes ¿. There’s a bunch more here you can print off.

    On an iPhone or iPad, just keep your finger on the right-side up character, and the upside-down one will appear right above it. Then draw your pinky, stylus, or other protuberance up to it.

    Other systems and devices may vary.

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  51. Pat Nixon appeared in 4 films, each time as an uncredited extra.

    http://m.imdb.com/name/nm0633268/filmotype/actress?ref_=m_nmfm_1

    Your claims about Richatd Nixon being coddled and not understanding public morals are equalLuna’s absurd as your claim that Pat Nixon was a “movie star”

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  52. For some reason I can’t edit my previous post.

    Should say “Richard” and “equally absurd”

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  53. they’re named after the first white child born in North America

    No, they’re not. Virginia Dare was the first English child born in North America. She’s not even the first white child born in what’s the modern US. This kid is:

    http://hispanememento.blogspot.com/2012/02/martin-de-arguelles-primer-nino-blanco.html

    …and anyone can infer from the content and tone of some of the articles that hosting Malkin’s articles there is some sort of half-assed attempt to appear “diverse”.

    Horse manure. She does quite good work on illegal immigration, including a best-selling book, and is tough on Islam and other bêtes-noires of theirs. She’s not there because they have a thing for Flips.

    Their policy has always been, explicitly, that if they pay for a columnist, they post everything. They did the same for Paul Craig Roberts, who makes Mrs Malkin look calm and reasonable by comparison.

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  54. Douthat: “Why Isn’t Marco Rubio Winning?”

    Because few Americans want two gay presidents in succession?

    Some argue we’ve already gone through that, starting in 1857.

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  55. Steve’s analysis is 100% on target.

    Yup. 100% perceptive and getting down to the real motivations of open borders billionaires and Marco Rubio. Marco is auditioning for his next job. He is leaving The Senate and taking his Rolodex with him. Marco is in it for the money, not the ideology. Marco is copying former Senator Mel Martinez (born in Cuba) of Florida who left the Senate in 2009 to become a DC lobbyist. He resigned from the Senate after just four years. So Mel was able to get very well connected in four years to where he could “graduate” and make the big Washingtoon DC money.

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  56. If Hiss is president which Rosenberg gets the VP nod?

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    I am a Trump supporter 100%. I would vote for Sanders over Rubio. Maybe even Hillary over Rubio. Rubio is an extremely dangerous neocon puppet who comes out with scary hints about he will go along with the most dangerous and destructive moves provided to him by his neocon handlers. ‘Putin is a gangster who needs to be punched in the nose.” Oy vey, Putin is the only sane powerful leader to step in and save a secular Middle East country from becoming another genocidal Islamist wasteland. Rubio will be Dick Cheney on bath salts. Rubio will work to bring about all the worst things those here on iSteve bitch about all the time as well as the worst neoconish stuff which the average Bernie supporter harps on.

    Btw, why haven’t the major media outlets run the story of Rubio’s arrest (citation?) at that park when he was 19?? What that park had a reputation for is the rest-of-the-story kind of thing.

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  59. Rubio sounds like he’s on meth or maybe a similar prescription drug.

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  60. I am puzzled why you would be comfortable to have any one of those three, as if there is no difference in their political positions.

    Yes, they have different political positions, but they all are within a range that I can accept.

    If Rubio became the Republican nominee, he would have an excellent chance of winning the general election.

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  61. From the looks of him, Andrew Breitbart was 150% Irish. Actually, he was adopted by a Jew and a convert to Judaism, so if environment is 50% of how we turn out then he was half Jewish. But genetically I highly doubt he had more than negligible Jewish ancestry, if any at all.

    Andrew Breitbart was born to non-Jews and was adopted by a Jewish couple. He grew up culturally Jewish and he started Breitbart. com with a childhood Jewish friend. Larry Solov who owns and runs Breitbart with one or two other men

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/17/breitbart-news-network-born-in-the-usa-conceived-in-israel/

    Breitbart. com is a tremendous operation these days. They get an astounding number of comments which must translate into web traffic plus the owners have other projects going on designed to influence public opinion. They are firmly in the Trump and Cruz camps. They are not cucks. They throw Rand Paul a bone from time to time.

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  62. Meaney was great as the only NCO or warrant officer or whatever he was supposed to be on the Enterprise on Star Trek: TNG.

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    Yes, I know there were Spaniards schlepping around Florida back then. I mean white as in non-Hispanic white.

    It doesn’t really matter if her writing is decent. Nobody goes to VDare to read her. There’s really no point hosting her articles there.

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  64. Trump could easily do 5 points better with blacks and Hispanics than Romney in the general election.

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  65. My professor of British literature was 150% Irish, and he was the spitting image of Andrew Breitbart.

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  66. Good to know at least one person is watching the debate.

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    Why do you say that? Trump is viewed most negatively among the GOP candidates by Democrats and Independents:

    http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/188177/trump-image-among-democrats-independents-negative-gop-candidate.aspx

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  68. “I mean white as in non-Hispanic white”

    So George Zimmerman is out.

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  69. Does that include the Democrats and Independents packing his rallies?

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  70. I can never understand why they don’t recruit actors to be politicians, or at least try to turn politicians into actors. Reagan played that Old Uncle Ronnie character perfectly. Cruz lacks chops. Everybody else does, too, mostly, wich is why mediocrities like Clinton get hailed as the great orators of the age.

    We were promised better by science fiction and a million predictions about the sinister machinations of hidden persuaders. Wait a minute. Maybe they make politicians boring on purpose, to throw us off the scent!

    By the way, could politicians act they’d probably go make an easier and less demeaning living.

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    Rubio, the guy who graduated high school (in FL mind you) with a GPA of 2.1 and was arrested at night from possessing of alcohol (and/or a controlled substance) in a Miami park known for drug dealing and use.

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    Forgot to include story link (comment #69): https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rubios-summer-of-90-an-arrest-then-newfound-purpose/2016/01/21/3582a72e-c04d-11e5-bcda-62a36b394160_story.html

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  73. Trump really hit a home run tonight. It was really something to see.

    As for Rubio, I’m not sure why people are ridiculing his intellect. I’m afraid he’s quite intelligent and talented and could still very possibly win the Presidency. He can seem moderate and pleasant while stabbing the middle class in the back, that’s a real skill.

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  74. It doesn’t really matter if her writing is decent. Nobody goes to VDare to read her. There’s really no point hosting her articles there.

    She is a good writer. Don’t be weird about this stuff.

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  75. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/breaking-poll-40-of-blacks-line-behind-trump-45-of-hispanics/

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  76. I think you should revisit Aesop’s fables.

    Fundamentally, all non-European immigration is problematic. Even the idea of letting in only the genious class from other countries would only result in creating a brown elite in the US. It’s either a Trojan Horse or a recipe for an inverted Brazil.

    BTW, I think Snori Thorfinnson predated Virginia Dare.

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  77. Fundamentally, all non-European immigration is problematic. Even the idea of letting in only the genious class from other countries would only result in creating a brown elite in the US. It’s either a Trojan Horse or a recipe for an inverted Brazil.

    There were some videos of Indian immigrant businessmen emphasizing how much good they were doing India by their activities in the U.S. I’m more and more inlined to agree with the quote. Honestly, in this labor market, aside from an incidental entertainer or someone like that, I’m inclined to think we don’t need any immigration at all. There’s even a Canadian Indian tribe that has a “marry out, move out” policy.

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  78. “Yes, they have different political positions, but they all are within a range that I can accept.

    If Rubio became the Republican nominee, he would have an excellent chance of winning the general election.”

    Wow. I guess Rubio’s neoconnish foreign policy must not bother you at all. That was the main reason I didn’t vote for him as Senator in 2010. Of course, his betrayal of his pledge to oppose legalization of illegal aliens turned off a lot of Floridians, including me. I think he would have had a hard time getting reelected to the Senate had he chosen to run again. Polls show him consistently trailing far behind Trump, so I’m not sure why you’re enthusiastic about him. He seems too young and inexperienced to me to be President of the U.S. That’s why I changed my registration in Florida from “Independent” to “Republican.” Just so I could vote for Trump and against Rubio and Bush in the Florida primary.

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  79. One used to be able to read some interesting info on Rubio here — now it simply says [removed], yet in familiar and typically stupid fashion, all of the comments are still there.

    At the moment, you can read the gist of what was [removed] at this link:

    As a quick summary: we know that the man Rubio was arrested with in 1990 was sued by Miami in 2007 for running a gay pornography studio out of one of his properties. We believe the totality of the evidence strongly implies that Rubio was engaged in sexual relations with that man in 1990, and that’s why they were arrested. Full story below.

    Read the ‘full story’ for yourself…before it is also [removed].

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  80. You sound a bit like the guy who in 1942 said:

    “I like Hitler, but I like Churchill and Stalin even more. Yes, they have different political positions, but they all are within a range that I can accept.”

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  81. Roger Stone characterised Bush senior as a fiercely competitive and ruthless technocrat who gave the impression of a likeable upper class wasp gentleman. Bush senior spent a lifetime in the dirty end of the CIA, don’t underestimate him. He did alright, could have been an American Putin though. Unlucky to face Perot and Clinton too.

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  82. I stand corrected.

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  83. “In retrospect, Rubio was well-positioned by ethnicity to instead lead resistance to the billionaires’ hopes to worsen the Latinization of our country (on the Nixon-goes-to-China principle of politics).”

    This reminds me that Obama’s election could have been a great opportunity to reverse the worsening Africanization of our government (i.e. Big Man loots the other tribes and spreads the wealth over to his own and himself). Instead, Obama doubled down on all the policies dividing the nation, ultimately trapping blacks into deeper dependency and driving whites further into despondency.

    I think that for the Nixon-goes-to-China gambit to work, there needs to be establishment support for going to China. Nixon could screw his anti-communist base because everyone else in Washington was gung ho with opening relations with China. Similarly, De Gaulle could screw the French colonists in Algeria because the French establishment was largely anti-colonialist. Obama couldn’t ramp down affirmative action and redistribution because everyone in Washington is on the gravy train, and Rubio can’t oppose turning the US into a Latin-American Caudillo State, because everyone in Washington is in favor of it.

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  84. No, but it’s the rest of the country not at the rally you have to worry about it.

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  85. Ironically, most people could and did survive fascism, communism, or liberal democracy, and would keep their heads down and go along to get along (and avoid getting killed in the first two cases).

    Those three leaders happened to be at war, which is a different story.

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  86. TNG always was liberal nerds’ idea of what the military should be.

    It still did give us some of the best televised scifi of the era, albeit in the liberal ‘think-piece’ mode rather than the conservative ‘spaceships-and-blasters’ mode. Who can forget Picard living an entire life in an hour, or the people who communicated through metaphors? It would be funny to imagine some of the people here doing that…

    ‘Trump, and Sailer, at Trump Tower.’
    ‘Soros! His face black, his nose large!’
    ‘Enoch! The river Enoch, foaming with blood!
    ‘Trump and Sailer, at the White House.’

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  87. Snorri Porfinnsson.

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  88. I guess Rubio’s neoconnish foreign policy must not bother you at all. That was the main reason I didn’t vote for him as Senator in 2010. Of course, his betrayal of his pledge to oppose legalization of illegal aliens turned off a lot of Floridians, including me

    I agree with you that Rubio is too hawkish on foreign policy and too dovish on immigration policy.

    However, I generally agree with Rubio’s stance on economic issues. He is an eloquent advocate of our free market and our opportunity society.

    Rubio also has much successful political experience in the Florida state government.

    I would like to deport all the illegal immigrants, but I think the only practical resolution will be a grand bargain the comprises effective enforcement and one last mass amnesty. I think that’s what Rubio intended in the Gang of Eight, but he I think he was outwitted. That’s why I want him to explain satisfactorily his involvement in the Gang of Eight.

    Rubio is an eloquent, inspirational and attractive politician who could win the Presidency for the Republican Party. He has great political talent and potential.

    I like Cruz and Trump more right now, but each of them has faults too.

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  89. Yabba Dabba Doo!!!1!!11

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  90. You sound a bit like the guy who in 1942 said: “I like Hitler, but I like Churchill and Stalin even more. Yes, they have different political positions, but they all are within a range that I can accept.”

    Is this what you mean?

    Rubio = Hitler

    Cruz = Churchill

    Trump = Stalin

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  91. Taco – you make good points but I think you misread my words. Of course Pat Nixon was not a “movie star”. In traditional American speech “Hollywood star” and “movie star” meant different things. “Movie stars” were distinguished from people in the movies who were not stars, and “Hollywood stars” were people who lived in Hollywood and made a living (or who were beginning to make a living, or had previously made a living) appearing in movies. As to coddled, Nixon’s Navy service was not coddled in general, and only a very ignorant person would say that: I meant that his status as an officer protected him from learning many of the life lessons in morality that ordinary men in the Navy at that time probably learned. He also lived a privileged life at Whittier and at Duke Law School and in corporate law and, maybe, even in Congress; with the exception of his 14 or so years in the White House, he had more in common with sheltered and privileged academics than regular Americans; and privileged academics are notorious for absurd and uninformed theories about the morals of those they think of as the “common people”.

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  92. Romney – oily, plastic slug

    Rubio – brown-skinned, oily, plastic slug

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  93. “I think that’s what Rubio intended in the Gang of Eight, but he I think he was outwitted.”

    LOL – then he didn’t try very hard to not be outwitted.

    There might be versions of an amnesty I could accept, but those versions would include numerical caps and a Constitutional amendment ending birthright citizenship, limiting the power of Congress to increase legal immigration and grant further amnesties, and allowing or even requiring state and local governments to assist in immigration enforcement. Even with such an amendment there is no way to guarantee our laws would ever be enforced, but at least (one hopes, perhaps in vain) the Constitutional questions would be settled once and for all.

    Rubio backed the amnesty in spite of massive flaws, including the absence of numerical caps on the number of illegals granted amnesty. He knew what he was doing, and what he was doing had nothing to do with making our immigration laws more rational.

    The fact is that Rubio is a lying and a traitor. A talented liar is still just a liar.

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  94. “Snorri Porfinnsson.”

    Are you suggesting a name change for “VDare”? I think a snappier title would be “SPorfinnson.” That will really draw the readers.

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  95. His chance to do that died when he supported the recent CASA bill which would legalize the patently un-Constitutional star chamber trials of men on college campuses.

    I don’t think he is that bright in the political sense. He’s easily manipulated and doesn’t seem to have a rudder of his own.

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  96. The role of Meaney’s lifetime was Jimmy Rabbitte, Sr. in The Commitments.

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  97. One used to be able to read some interesting info on Rubio here

    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/42cvjr/something_very_interesting_some_friends_and_i/%2BSomething+very+interesting+some+friends+and+I+discovered+about+Marco+Rubio&hl=en&biw&bih&gbv=1&&ct=clnk‘ href=”http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Rr2XZ2nmqrEJ:https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/42cvjr/something_very_interesting_some_friends_and_i/%2BSomething+very+interesting+some+friends+and+I+discovered+about+Marco+Rubio&hl=en&biw&bih&gbv=1&&ct=clnk” onclick=”javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','']);” rel=”nofollow”>G**gle cache of page in question

    I would like to deport all the illegal immigrants, but I think the only practical resolution will be a grand bargain the comprises effective enforcement and one last mass amnesty.

    I don’t see what makes a crackdown on employers impractical. In fact, I think the American public would eat it up. The idea of a crackdown on the exploitative slave bosses has broad appeal IMO. Let the traitors’ pols defend them, we’ll see how that plays out.

    The figures show that Trump has picked up most of the support that used to go to Jeb!!! and not Rubio.

    Read an article just yesterday on how polls show Rubio is going to benefit most from the shaking out process, Trump the least. Like 65 to 20, or something. It may be wrong, but it’s not just based on opinion or speculation, apparently.

    Same data showed that even with the bump he’ll still be way behind Trump.

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  98. Of course Pat Nixon was not a “movie star”. In traditional American speech “Hollywood star” and “movie star” meant different things. “Movie stars” were distinguished from people in the movies who were not stars, and “Hollywood stars” were people who lived in Hollywood and made a living (or who were beginning to make a living, or had previously made a living) appearing in movies.

    Hahaha. What a crock of nonsense.

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  99. Don’t be weird about this stuff.

    That’s the whole point of being Anonymous.

    Though I have to admit, while I usually agree with her, her tone is far too shrill for me. At least Ann Coulter leavens hers with good jokes.

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  100. The edit window still way too short.

    Ron may want to look at site code. I’m looking at the link I pasted in, and it looks kosher no matter how long I stare at it. Here’s a tinyurl version:

    One used to be able to read some interesting info on Rubio here

    G**gle cache of page in question

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  101. The idea of a crackdown on the exploitative slave bosses has broad appeal IMO. Let the traitors’ pols defend them, we’ll see how that plays out.

    Actually, the minimum wage law adjusted for aliens on green cards is as good and effective a tool as I’ve seen anyone propose. And only Randall Burns of Vdare.com has ever brought it up.

    Furthermore, you’ve got three federal agencies to enforce it. The immigration officers, the Department of Labor, and the IRS– if the alien hasn’t paid net income tax, he’s earning too little and breaking the law.

    And the legal status of the alien is irrelevant. The states could do this themselves.

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  102. The first few seasons of TNG were more liberal due to more Roddenberry influence. The metaphor show was kind of dumb – I wondered at the time how such a people would have been able to develop engineering with such a lack of precision in their language.

    The other episode you alluded too, “The Light Within”, was arguably TNG’s best. Stewart was a great actor, but in a stagey sort of way. Meaney just kind of inhabited his small role and made it believable.

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  103. That’s “Thorfinnsson”. That P-thingy is the thorn, for an unvoiced TH. It’s usually rendered TH on non-Icelandic (or non-old-English) systems.

    Sorry, Derb, to be a thorn in your side.

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  104. “He also lived a privileged life at Whittier and at Duke Law School”

    Look, even a cursory search of the internet will tell you that this simply isn’t true.

    Richard Nixon’s early life was hardscrabble. From wikipedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon#Early_life

    Nixon’s early life was marked by hardship, and he later quoted a saying of Eisenhower to describe his boyhood: “We were poor, but the glory of it was we didn’t know it”.[7] The Nixon family ranch failed in 1922, and the family moved to Whittier, California. In an area with many Quakers, Frank Nixon opened a grocery store and gas station.[8]

    Instead, they sent Richard to the larger Fullerton Union High School.[13][14] He received excellent grades, even though he had to ride a school bus for an hour each way during his freshman year

    His parents permitted Richard to transfer to Whittier High School for his junior year, beginning in September 1928. At Whittier High, Nixon suffered his first electoral defeat, for student body president. He generally rose at 4 a.m., to drive the family truck into Los Angeles and purchase vegetables at the market. He then drove to the store to wash and display them, before going to school. Harold had been diagnosed with tuberculosis the previous year; when their mother took him to Arizona in the hopes of improving his health, the demands on Richard increased, causing him to give up football. Nevertheless, Richard graduated from Whittier High third in his class of 207 students.[18]

    Nixon was offered a tuition grant to attend Harvard University, but Harold’s continued illness and the need for their mother to care for him meant Richard was needed at the store. He remained in his hometown and attended Whittier College, his expenses there covered by a bequest from his maternal grandfather.[19] Nixon played for the basketball team; he also tried out for football, but lacked the size to play. He remained on the team as a substitute, and was noted for his enthusiasm.[20] Instead of fraternities and sororities, Whittier had literary societies. Nixon was snubbed by the only one for men, the Franklins; many members of the Franklins were from prominent families but Nixon was not.

    I could go on, but you can just click the link.

    Richard Nixon’s family was a hand-to-mouth lower middle class family with 5 children one of whom died young and one of whom had tuberculosis. Throughout his time in high school and college he had to spend his spare time working at the family business. Despite this, he got good enough grades to get an academic scholarship to law school.

    As to his military service, Nixon was a Quaker. He could have been a legitimate conscientious objector. I think its possible that concern for his future political prospects, more than sheer patriotism, motivated him to join the Navy. But if he wanted to be “coddled” he could have stayed out of WWII entirely.

    And Pat Nixon, yes, appeared in 4 films as an extra. She was also a delivery driver, secretary, telephone operator, pharmacist’s assistant, and janitor, among other things. Does this sound to you like a lady who is a “Hollywood Star” or a lady who had to work hard, at any job that was available, who at some point on her day off made a few extra bucks by being an extra?

    Richard and Pat Nixon both came up as working poor. Maybe Richard Nixon truly suffered some detachment from public morality. I will not deny the possibility. But that deficit, if it existed, certainly didn’t stem from a “coddled” existence in his formative years.

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  105. “Read an article just yesterday on how polls show Rubio is going to benefit most from the shaking out process, Trump the least. Like 65 to 20, or something. It may be wrong, but it’s not just based on opinion or speculation, apparently.”

    Well, I have been reading similar things since last summer, and it turned out to be misinformed speculation. I cited actual figures of the Reuters’ polls from last August to this January which show Trump’s percentage growing dramatically while Rubio’s have grown very slightly and others (such as Bush) have declined dramatically. The actual figures belie the speculation of last summer. I seem to recall that Reuters-Ipsos polls were among the most accurate in the 2012 cycle. After the election, Nate Silver ranked Reuters-Ipsos sixth out of 23 pollsters in 2012, with an average error not that far off the second ranked poll. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/?_r=0

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  106. Definitely agree about Ann and her jokes. In an earlier era, Ann would definitely have been one of Bob Hope’s main joke writers. If you read her stuff carefully, you can almost hear Hope delivering these zingers to his live audience.

    Wonder if Ann Coulter missed her calling early in life by not applying for an internship with David Letterman’s staff to help write his jokes? (since Hope would’ve been way ancient by that time).

    Hi Ann!

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  107. Funny, that name doesn’t sound English. Best to leave it as is, at Virginia Dare.

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  108. Well, he did graduate cum lauda from a decently ranked law school .

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  109. Jeb isn’t anti-American. He is neo-American.

    He’s not anti-American; he’s anti-Anglo-American.

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  110. I would like to deport all the illegal immigrants, but I think the only practical resolution will be a grand bargain the comprises effective enforcement and one last mass amnesty.

    We’ve been down this road before. They pass the mass amnesty and forget about the effective enforcement part.

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  111. Rubio also looks very Scots-Irish (strangely more East Med than West Med) and in an age of social media people are wise to it.

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  112. As for Rubio, I’m not sure why people are ridiculing his intellect.

    Let’s just say that his university record is less than impressive:

    He then attended Tarkio College in Missouri for one year on a football scholarship from 1989 to 1990, before enrolling at Santa Fe Community College (now Santa Fe College) in Gainesville, Florida. He earned his Bachelor of Arts degree in political science from the University of Florida in 1993, and his J.D. degree cum laude from the University of Miami School of Law in 1996.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Rubio

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  113. The fact that James Buchanan was our only (probably) Gay president has really got to annoy Homosexual activists. Indeed, it seems to have pushed Larry Kramer right over the edge…

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  114. He looks like a boy.

    To be more precise, Rubio looks like a “rent boy”.

    Here are pictures of a young Marco Rubio and his rent boy gone mad spree killing doppleganger Andrew Cunanan who was notorious for murdering in Miami the gay icon the fashion designer Gianni Versace back in 1998.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+of+Marco+rubio+as+a+young+man&espv=2&biw=824&bih=407&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJz-

    PBu8_KAhXlloMKHYdmCkUQ7AkIPw

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cunanan

    It’s Marco Rubio’s lack of “Quien Es Mas Macho?” that creeps lots of people out, especially Latinos outside of his base South Florida Cuban constituency. The idea that macho obsessed mestizo Mexicans
    and Central Americans would ever vote for Rubio is pure plutocrat billionaire self deception. Of course the idea that Rubio’s politics just like his dubious sexuality might be for rent is exactly what the billionaires like about him.

    The various rumors and not to mention legitimate questions about Rubio’s past arrest history and fashion choices don’t help.

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  115. “24 years of callowness in the White House is enough.”

    Wow, that really says a mouthful. No more man-children for President! Its time for a grown-up President. Its time for a man in the White House.

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  116. He’s the distillation of every insufferable cuckservative idea.

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  117. Available at the internet archive.

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  118. His [Rubio's] chance to do that [become the US President] died when he supported the recent CASA bill which would legalize the patently un-Constitutional star chamber trials of men on college campuses.

    I don’t think he is that bright in the political sense. He’s easily manipulated and doesn’t seem to have a rudder of his own.

    I agree with all of your statement except that his chance has died.

    I still think that Rubio will learn from his mistakes and has great political talent and potential.

    In the meantime, I am supporting Cruz and Trump over Rubio.

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  119. Thorn could be voiced or unvoiced, depending on its position in a word.

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  120. “Rubio is the human epitomization of the Republican billionaire class’s evident desire to <turn the United States into Latin America Norte,

    with its vast inequalities of wealth, rigged social systems, and fragile rule of law.”

    oh shyte…

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  121. There might be versions of an amnesty I could accept, but those versions would include numerical caps and a Constitutional amendment ending birthright citizenship, limiting the power of Congress to increase legal immigration and grant further amnesties, and allowing or even requiring state and local governments to assist in immigration enforcement. ….

    Rubio backed the amnesty in spite of massive flaws, including the absence of numerical caps on the number of illegals granted amnesty. He knew what he was doing, and what he was doing had nothing to do with making our immigration laws more rational.

    The fact is that Rubio is a lying and a traitor. A talented liar is still just a liar.

    I agree with the first paragraph and disagree with the third paragraph.

    In regard to the second paragraph, it is why I think Rubio should give a long, thoughtful speech to explain his participation in the Gang of Eight. I have heard him explain himself only in glib sound-bites.

    When Barack Obama got into political trouble because of his attending Jeremiah Wright’s church, Obama gave a long, thoughtful speech and resolved the issue for most voters. Rubio should do something similar about his participation in the Gang of Eight.

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  122. I don’t see what makes a crackdown on employers impractical. In fact, I think the American public would eat it up. The idea of a crackdown on the exploitative slave bosses has broad appeal IMO. Let the traitors’ pols defend them, we’ll see how that plays out.

    I too favor a crackdown on employers.

    Unfortunately, the Democrat Party will continue to block such crackdowns until a mass amnesty is promised.

    If Trump becomes President, then he can apply existing laws to crack down on employers.

    I wish I could count on Trump becoming President, but his conduct has remained extremely erratic. He might win in a landslide or lose in a landslide.

    That’s why I have switched my support from Trump to Cruz.

    If Rubio could explain himself convincingly on the immigration issue, I might switch from Cruz to Rubio, because I think that Rubio has a better chance of being elected President than Cruz does.

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  123. “I haven’t looked closely at all the Republicans, but Cruz appears to be the smartest of the top four Republican candidates.”

    He may well have a measurably higher I.Q. (or possibly just more formal education) than Trump…but I’m not sure I’d really characterize him as “smarter,” based on actual performance. Maybe Cruz has a greater propensity for understanding higher mathematical functions than Trump, but I doubt he’d make a more effective national leader.

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  124. Agreed. “The Inner Light” was moving and haunting. I’d say the best Star Trek episode. It came out when my first born was a few months old–still in the crawling stage–and i was newly attuned to questions of posterity. The flute was the perfect accompaniment to the haunting tale.

    We must all work hard to defeat the evil Zuckerbergianization–Merkelization of the West so we don’t find ourselves in the same sad situation, facing extinction and seeking to send forth some inkling of the glory that was once white Western Christian civilization.

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    Reg: it must’ve been something to do with my connection. I’m tellin’ ya, I stared at what I pasted in longer than I needed to and it’s kosher. YMMV.

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  126. Actually, the minimum wage law adjusted for aliens on green cards is as good and effective a tool as I’ve seen anyone propose. And only Randall Burns of Vdare.com has ever brought it up.

    Yeah that one works too. Kill ‘em with kindness.

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  127. Well, it looks like the debate without Trump drew only 12.5 million, about half of what the first debate on Fox with Trump drew. http://deadline.com/2016/01/donald-trump-gop-debate-ratings-fox-news-megyn-kelly-1201692686/ If Trump does win Iowa, I guess it will be easy to conclude that his decision was the right one.

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  128. Thanks for the post. I missed that. I had heard that Cruz was not popular, but I didn’t realize the other candidates were shunning him like that. That’s what they did to Romney back in 2008.

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    Rubio is loyal to Latin America; Jeb Bush is a traitor to Anglo-America.’Nuff said.

    “Anglo-America” existed in the 19th century. I think you mean “White America” or “European America”, which replaced “Anglo-America” in the 20th century.

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  130. He reminds me of the episode of Seinfeld where Jerry gets his haircut, and it looks like he’s 7 when it is finished. I can’t stop seeing Rubio as an overly earnest child.

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  131. Then what was the point of edh?

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    Yes, I’ve seen those polls which seem to be the basis for this sort of hype. That poll was conducted by World Net Daily. Have there been any other polls put out by major pollsters suggesting the same thing? It seems to be inconsistent with polls such as the recent Gallup one suggesting that Trump is viewed most negatively by Dems and Independents.

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  133. Thorn and edh were interchangeable in Old English, and could be voiced or unvoiced according to their position. Thorn could be both voiced and unvoiced in Icelandic before edh was introduced to its alphabet.

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  134. I’m no fan of Rubio’s but I don’t see much significance to his bust in the park. Lots of people do stupid s–t when they’re 20.

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  135. Is the Gallup poll broken down by race? If not, the effect might be due to SWPLs.

    The World Net Daily poll results seem exaggerated, but I still think Trump would do better with blacks and Hispanics than Romney did. Trump has been the subject of rap songs. His lifestyle and unapologetic wealth will play better with average blacks than any of Rand Paul’s warmed over Kempism. Average Latinos are also likely to respect him as a caudillo.

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    Sanders, who’s presumably less popular among blacks and Hispanics than Hillary is, has a 12 point lead over Trump in a matchup according to a recent Reuters poll, compared to Hillary’s 10 point lead over Trump:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-bloomberg-idUSMTZSAPEC1SOOMWHP

    In a matchup between Trump and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton, adding Bloomberg’s name to the ballot would trim Clinton’s lead over Trump to six percentage points from 10, according to the poll conducted from Jan. 23 to Jan. 27.

    In a Trump versus Democratic hopeful Bernie Sanders matchup, adding Bloomberg would erode Sanders’ lead over Trump to seven points from 12, the poll results showed.

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  137. I think its possible that concern for his future political prospects, more than sheer patriotism, motivated him to join the Navy. But if he wanted to be “coddled” he could have stayed out of WWII entirely.

    What, and miss out on thousands of easy marks?

    Nixon was notoriously the best poker sharp in the WWII Navy.

    Yeah, not coddled. Not close.

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  138. I didn’t realize the other candidates were shunning him like that.

    Well, the country is shunning the other candidates, so I don’t see where it hurts Cruz much.

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  139. He’s not anti-American; he’s anti-Anglo-American.

    He’s post-American.

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  140. “Anglo-America” existed in the 19th century. I think you mean “White America” or “European America”, which replaced “Anglo-America” in the 20th century.

    No, I mean Anglo-America.

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  141. He’s post-American.

    Only in the sense that he’s a Latin American LARPer.

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  142. Rubio is lacking in natural leadership. He appears like a teenager trying to tell his parents how they are wrong about everything because at 15 he is so smart.

    THE TEST FOR LEADERSHIP:

    If a random hundred people were lost and marooned on a desert island (or wilderness) with little chance of rescue for foreseeable future, a guy like Rubio would be relegated to gather firewood. Trump, on the other hand, would likely emerge as the natural leader to get things done for the group’s survival. Always ask yourself, which candidates would be group-selected to be a leader or THE leader; and which would be relegated to join Rubio in performing the mundane tasks.

    Thatcher would be a leader, so LBJ and Reagan. But except for Trump, the current crop of the candidates of BOTH parties are gatherers. By the way, “Obama, don’t just stand there, make yourself useful and gather some firewood.”

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  143. “He’s not anti-American; he’s anti-Anglo-American.”

    He’s actually Texican.

    Initially, Anglo-Americans were racially exclusive, and this was especially in the East Coast.

    But as Anglos moved to other places, some just got looser and less ‘uptight’ and mixed with the locals. Some did this in Hawaii. And some did this in SW territories. Some even went to Mexico and settled there and became Amexicans.

    It was more doable with Mexers and Hawaiians cuz they were okay folks. White folks lived in closer proximity with Negroes in the South, but Negroes were too scary. (That seems to be changing now since interracism is the official faith of America, and southern white girls now got the hots for rapper and black football players.)
    So, Anglo elites merged with Mexers in places in Texas. And they mixed with Hawiian and other tropical native types, like in DONOVON’S REEF.
    It was less easy with American Indians — even though races did mix — cuz of the bitter tribal wars that came to define both communities as blood enemies in myth and lore.

    So, the Bush family’s attitude isn’t really anti-Anglo or anti-American. It’s like how Pierce Brosnan feels in NOBLE LOUSE. He’s part of the British Empire but also feels sort of ‘Chinese’ as he was brought up in the culture and learned the language. He has to play the game both ways.

    Interestingly enough, even though NE Anglos remained most pure for a long spell, the takeover of that region by Jews meant that NE Anglos began to merge with Jews, even intermarrying with them in big numbers. In some cases of declining wasp fortunes in NE area, their only hope of remaining privileged was by marrying some up-and-coming Jew.

    So, we have Zio-Anglos in the NE, Meso-Anglos in SW, and Akebono-Anglos in Hawaii.

    It’s like THE DESCENDANTS.

    But in a way, Meso-Anglos are more powerful as Anglos than Zio-Anglos.
    When Anglos mix with Jews, Jews win.
    When Anglos mix with Mexos, Anglos win.
    Anglos follow Jews, but Mexos follow Anglos.

    Guillermos of the world don’t run anything.

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  144. Lots of people do stupid s–t when they’re 20.

    True, but only a tiny number of them run for a position later in life where they could be open to blackmail. If he was active in the gay scene, it doesn’t particularly matter if he did nothing illegal or outrageous. The important thing is that it’s the kind of information that someone would be keen to suppress if confronted with it decades later when they hoped they’d left it behind.

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  145. The Stupid party has become a parody of itself. Have you ever seen a Political Party try to take down the frontrunner who is beating the Dem opponent in hypothetical matchups? I haven’t seen such vitriol since Ronald Reagan ran in 1976. Everyone said Ford was the better candidate to carry Lincoln’s Party to Bull Run, and we got the malaise excuse for some nobody named carter who creamed him. Reagan took nearly every state when he ran. These insiders are the worst enemy of the Party. Every donor is either a Globalist or a Rockerfeller Republican. They hate their voters more than the Dems do.
    Remember how the media attacked Sarah Palin and John McCain stood idly by while saying Obama was a good American? That’s the Stupid Party right there. These guys are not even trying to oppose Obama now. This “democracy” thing is a joke. The idea that a Nation founded entirely by White Men with guns is a Nation of Immigrants is right up there with Flurpity Flurp as the worst claim in advertising history.
    White people believe in Freedom, and Limited Government. Everyone else has a Ruthless Dictator with Secret Police and Death Squads ruling them. Why exactly do we want them here much less allow these idiots to vote? White racism is so bad that everyone on Earth is dying to experience it. Unfortunately it will destroy any idea of anyone ever having a better life in the process. Only a fool would kill the Goose that Lays the Golden eggs because they want the gold in the Goose now. But fools is what we’re dealing with here.

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  146. Steve Sailer has nailed it once again. In 2010, when the relatively unknown Rubio challenged former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist for the GOP Senate nomination, he ran as a tea party conservative and opponent of amnesty. This was a big deal in Miami. Many of us who supported Rubio then and worked for his campaign did so because we were fed up with the Latinization of South Florida and were thrilled with what Sailer describes: Marco’s positioning “by ethnicity to…lead resistance to the billionaires’ hopes to worsen the Latinization of our country.” And we quickly saw Rubio’s potential to become a viable, attractive, exciting, conservative, proud-to-be-AMERICAN-first Latin candidate for POTUS. Which is precisely why we were shattered when he co-wrote the Gang of 8 bill. It was a betrayal of the first order of those who elected him. So though we saw our dreams for him to lead that resistance smashed, it truly is unknown “whether Rubio ever had the imagination to have seized that opportunity” or even was aware of it. Moot point. He turned his back on we who would have now been his most tireless and passionate supporters. He is not who we thought he was. Better to know now than later.

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  147. I don’t see much significance

    That’s big of you.

    Does the “stupid s–t” normally include gay sex in public? If ‘lots of people’ includes you, did your ‘youthful indiscretions’ include homosexual acts in public?

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  148. Trump was underwater with Republicans a month or two back. He’s turned that around now. It’s just as likely he will do it with Democrats.

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  149. Rubio has an excellent chance of starting World War III, given that he has promised as much. Two hawkish R candidates have lost in a row. Only Trump and Rand Paul (done) have a record of not being neocon shills.

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  150. Bush was DCI for less than one year and never otherwise served in the CIA.

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  151. What a coincidence! My partner calls me ‘Snorri’ as well.

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  152. Pat Buchanan was speaking to Lew Rockwell and they both agreed,
    Pat Nixon was a wonderful person, at one point it was only she and (maybe Rosemary) and Pat B. sharing an office.

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  153. Sweetest moment of the debate-

    Jeb twisting the knife in Rubio over the latter’s flip-flopping. To Jeb’s credit he even owned up to his own flip-flopping when Rubio tried to turn the table back on him. Bush vendetta winning out over Bushian project?

    Will Jeb stay in this thing just to spite Rubio and possible endanger the project? Is this just a Jeb thing or a Bush thing.

    Jeb is certainly his own man in that he is being treated much different than his brother. Dubya knew how to manipulate the GOPer rank and file. I always wonder if it were Dubya running now, or a Dubya-esque Bush, would he being doing so poorly? Unfortunately, I think not. I don’t trust the good political sense of the GOP-inclined middle class and working class enough.

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  154. If Trump becomes President, then he can apply existing laws to crack down on employers.

    Yup. I think the laws on the books are plenty. They just need vigorous enforcement. Trump can fire some federal prosecutors and LEO brass and everyone would get the message. This would probably be more useful than new legislation, ceteris paribus.

    Nixon’s early life was marked by hardship, and he later quoted a saying of Eisenhower to describe his boyhood: “We were poor, but the glory of it was we didn’t know it”.[7] The Nixon family ranch failed in 1922, and the family moved to Whittier, California. In an area with many Quakers, Frank Nixon opened a grocery store and gas station.[8]

    Opening grocery stores and gas stations doesn’t seem like what poor people do.

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  155. “In regard to the second paragraph, it is why I think Rubio should give a long, thoughtful speech to explain his participation in the Gang of Eight. I have heard him explain himself only in glib sound-bites.”

    So basically what you’re saying is “I want Rubio to lie to me – to lie to me good and hard, and deceive me about his reasons for lying to me the first time.” Gotcha.

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  156. The guy who played Picard’s adult son in that episode was Patrick Stewart’s son.

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  157. Taco – I consider Nixon a great president and the most interesting chief executive we had in the 20th century. I appreciate the fact that you seem to feel the same. However, perhaps because you are young and lack cultural memory and context, or because you mistakenly took me for a Nixon critic, you did not understand the point I was making. I will try one more time. When I was commissioned as an officer back in the 80s I noticed that many of the other officers – even the ones who thought they were tough – were often a heck of a lot more naive than the enlisted men their age. Annapolis grads (and I know Nixon did not go to Annapolis, but that is not central here) were notorious for their beaming optimism and coddled unawareness of how hard life can be outside of the generally solvable challenges of military life. If you think I am wrong about that, fine, but please don’t invite me to click on Wikipedia to learn more about a subject that I could easily write a hundred or two hundred pages on with exponentially more detail and insight than the Wikipedia editors could. Anyway, my formative military experiences were about halfway between now and Nixon’s day, but the patterns are not that dissimilar. Looking back, I see many similarities between the naiveté shown by so many lieutenants of the 80s and many of the anecdotes I read about Nixon, for example his lack of full awareness of how monumentally crooked the Kennedy operatives were, and the way he was steamrolled by the sharp boys who wanted their way on the Supreme Court, not to mention by little guys like Mark Felt and David Frost. As for whether Pat Nixon was a “Hollywood star”, either you understand the nuances of a language or you don’t. It is not something everyone can be taught to understand. (The best short description of that wonderful woman that I know, by the way, is Ben Stein’s speech on the occasion of the centenary of her birth, easily available on the internet). In addition to what I have previously and accurately pointed out, not all mathematicians publish in the best journals, but they are still those one-in-ten-thousand people who can be called mathematicians. Next hint: watch an episode or two of the Beverly Hillbillies for a refresher on the fact that people used to use different words for things (inside and outside the movie industry) that we now call by other words. Another hint: when someone tells you he married the prettiest girl in town, he is not always speaking in the role of someone who has conducted a detailed polling operation. Finally, Richard Nixon was not working poor. He was rural poor trying to hang on to the good farmstead that was in the family. People like that often did working-class jobs but they were not “working poor” in the sense that those who live from paycheck to paycheck in a set of rented rooms or a rundown shack are. Just another important nuance that anyone who has spent time with poor people who lived through the Depression instantly and intuitively understands.

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