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Ross Douthat writes in the New York Times:

Liberalism’s Golden Dream
By Ross Douthat

Opinion Columnist

April 25, 2018

… But by coincidence I was in California while I read the Golden State essays, wandering around in Greater Los Angeles with my family, and in the annoying way of pundit-travelers let me make some observations about this vision of a liberal-dominated future.

To begin with, you can’t understand the political transformation of California without understanding how much it has been shaped by a long-term middle class exodus — the out-migration, across years and decades, of the kind of people who in the Trump era tend to vote Republican, the native-born petit-bourgeoisie. This out-migration has been compensated for by in-migration, but the new arrivals are more likely to be either immigrants or well-educated professionals: Since the 1990s new Californians are disproportionately likely to make around $200,000 a year, ex-Californians are disproportionately likely to make around $45,000.

This trend, and the extremity of inequality it has encouraged, is palpable to any tourist, but particularly if you have a personal connection to California’s modern history. In my case I can drive through the neighborhoods of Santa Monica where my father grew up, and see the one-story mission-style house where my grandfather raised three kids as a struggling salesman and small-business man. Or rather, I could until recently, but not on this visit — because it was finally torn down to make way for the more lavish residences that now squat in what was a middle-class paradise two generations back.

My grandfather’s parents came west from Arkansas, looking for healthier climes after a malarial disaster, and the family never had much money and always voted Democratic. Today their middle-class equivalents would likely be making the same migration in reverse (or at the very least lighting out for rural, Trumpier parts of the West Coast, as a Californian uncle of mine did), having been priced out of what was once their promised land. And the fact that many of these migrants might be natural Trump constituents is a good example of the futility of reducing Trump’s appeal to an either-or of racism or economic grievance. Is an ex-Californian who’s doing O.K. economically but lives in a hotter, flatter, less glamorous and ocean-breeze-kissed part of the country than his parents, and who gripes that what was once his middle-class hometown is now all immigrants speaking Spanish and the liberal superrich, worried about ethnic or socioeconomic displacement? The answer really can be both.

So the same trends that have made California so uniformly liberal have also encouraged Trumpism elsewhere — and not only elsewhere, since as Jason Willick and James Hitchcock pointed out in 2016 in The American Interest, Trumpism-the-ideology is very much a made-in-California affair. Not many members of the right-wing intelligentsia backed Trump, but the writers and thinkers who did — from mainstream conservatives to the alt-right fringe — were heavily Californian: the Claremont Institute’s West Coast Straussians, Michael “Flight 93 Election” Anton, Mickey Kaus, Victor Davis Hanson, Ron Unz, Steve Sailer, Scott Adams, Curtis “Mencius Moldbug” Yarvin … and of course the one and only Peter Thiel.

I’d add Benjamin Schwarz and Stephen Miller.

This clutch of internal dissidents doesn’t pose a threat to liberal hegemony in California. But the state’s larger exile population does present a problem for the “make America California” project, because while you can displace Republican-leaning voters from one state, you can’t do the same for the country as a whole.

Don’t give them too many ideas, Ross. Deporting Republicans is a little much for even Democrats in 2018, but by 2022 …

There will be no white-middle-class out-migration to, say, Hungary to ease the path to a Democratic supermajority.

… As in other enclaves where Democrats are dominant, its ruling party has proved itself pretty good at rentier-friendly environmentalism and kicking social conservatives while they’re down, O.K. enough at redistribution, and completely terrible at figuring how to build an information-age middle class.

 
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  1. Building a new middle class will be easy. Take all that we have learned about educating lower IQ hostile nonwhite third world people in our efforts to close the gap with black people,and the bookshelves are groaning like Stormy Daniels under the weight of all the studies and recommendations, and apply it to Mexicans.

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  2. Israel Admits: Plan to Relocate Asylum Seekers Has Collapsed, No Way to Forcibly Deport Africans

    Israel tells top court it will stop holding deportation hearings and any previous decisions on deportations have now been nullified

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-admits-no-way-we-can-forcefully-deport-african-asylum-seekers-1.6028435

    Fifty more refugees approved to leave Manus and Nauru for US

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/apr/18/fifty-more-refugees-approved-to-leave-manus-and-nauru-for-us

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    Israel Admits: Plan to Relocate Asylum Seekers Has Collapsed, No Way to Forcibly Deport Africans

    Israel tells top court it will stop holding deportation hearings and any previous decisions on deportations have now been nullified
     
    Ah - so that's what serious countries do when their courts start enforcing suicide pacts.
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  3. You can make free speech illegal, declare dissent or gun ownership to be criteria of insanity, and staff police departments with spineless political activists. You don’t need to deport the imprisoned or dead. In Sweden they gave violent gang rapists who physically damaged a young girl “eight months of community service;” here they let people go, they cry about rights, and openly push for the total abandonment of law enforcement. They are freeing every violent criminal they can and the thing stopping them is not us, not the Constitution, not some legal old guard of principled sages, not popular outrage (or awareness); the thing stopping them is the violent criminals themselves being so impulsive they put their heads right back into the bear trap.

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  4. Ross seems smart enough to think this through but I guess he lacks the moral courage. Eventually Republican-leaning voters will run out of places to run, but you can still pump in enough immigrants to swamp them wherever they end up. Replacement doesn’t require displacement. And even if somewher like North Dakota remains relatively intact, once enough states have been captured to control the federal government it won’t matter.

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    • Replies: @Barnard
    This has already happened in a lot of other places around the country besides California. Any town that has a meat packing plant has seen a large influx of East Africans. Plenty of places have had a large influx of Hispanics. The difference is there hasn't been the run up in real estate and cost of living that coastal California has seen. A big part of the plan has been indoctrinating young people that they are racist if they oppose any of it. That has had some success.
    , @Whiskey
    Except Machiavelli advised better to kill your enemies than make them poor. A massive amount of Whites as fifth class helots and serfs who are suddenly poor and have less than their parents and grandparents is a call to ultra violent revolution

    Douthat sees this and is rightly scared. Mexico is already making noises about annexing CA, TX etc. Import Mexicans get annexation to Mexico.

    Mexican reconquista vs American reconqista is an ugly no quarter race war for America. And that is inevitable if mass immigration is not stopped. The ak 47 gives populations targeted for elimination the ability to fight back ask Somoza.
    , @TheBoom
    It isn't just the immigrants who swamp red areas to turn them blue. government programs shift blacks to red areas and blue staters flee the consequence of their policies only to eventually turn their new locale blue.
    , @Clifford Brown
    Douthat, like the charlatan David Brooks, is a safety valve. His job is to play the role of the sad sack Washington Generals of Harlem Globetrotters fame. Lose with dignity every week while never threatening anything. Take some sort of innocuous and completely irrelevant moral stance to pontificate about while losing on every moral, political and social issue.

    The conservative patsies that write for the NY Times serve two purposes: (1) To create the appearance of impartiality while promoting the most milquetoast and irrelevant positions; and most critically (2) Convince liberal readers that there is a Elite Consensus so that there are no issues left up for debate besides a few religious qualms and quibbles over political etiquette.

    Douthat is paid well to play dumb which is much worse than David Brooks who I am quite convinced is actually kind of dumb.
    , @duncsbaby
    Reporting from North Dakota here. Somali is the 2nd language spoken at home in Fargo & Grand Forks. Lots of Butanese refugees are settled in these 2 cities as well. Also Fargo has a significant and growing African population, Sudanese, Liberians, Ghanaians & the always ubiquitous Nigerians. Of course there are as well small populations of Asian Indians who are like elsewhere nearly all middle to upper class - doctors & educators.

    There are local politicians in both Fargo & Grand Forks that I know of, city council members, who dare to openly question the wisdom of settling so many refugees in the Red River Valley & are painted by the local papers as bigoted racists because of it. So, as you say North Dakota is "relatively intact," but it's definitely undergoing replacement & displacement.
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  5. Ha, I must have been among the first to jump ship, in ’75.

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    • Replies: @SLM
    My wife and I left in '76. Principally economic. Even then, real estate was getting pricy and we left so we could afford to have a family and my wife could stay at home. Looking back, it was one of the best decisions we ever made.
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  6. San Francisco really went downhill fast. It was a Shangri La when I left in 09, but the last time I was back in 2017 it had degenerated into a dump. I mean really a dump with garbage and vagrants everywhere. It’s become a really cynical town as well which is sad to see. Can’t quite put my finger on what went wrong out there but I think Douthat has the right idea.

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    • Replies: @Doug
    > San Francisco really went downhill fast. It was a Shangri La when I left in 09, but the last time I was back in 2017 it had degenerated into a dump... Can’t quite put my finger on what went wrong out there

    Prop 47. Let's decriminalize smash and grabs. Great idea California. San Francisco, Oakland, and Berkeley really seem to have embraced the spirit of Prop 47 more so than anywhere else.

    Say what you want about New York liberals, but they're actually much less tolerant of degeneracy when it actually invades their life. New York has plenty of neighborhoods you don't want to walk into, but if anything akin to the Tenderloin was a few blocks away from Goldman Sachs HQ, as it is with Twitter, De Blasio would be throw in the East River with a new pair of concrete shoes.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Shangri La might be overstating it. Even during the dot-com bubble there were plenty of homeless beggars. There seem to be more now though.
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  7. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:

    I would add to the that list, and put him at the top, Michael Savage from San Francisco! As Trump said, he wouldn’t have won the election if not for Savage. Savage has a big audience and was a big promoter of Trump and is constantly talking how beautiful California (especially, San Francisco) is and how it’s being destroyed and turned into a third-world cesspool due to liberal politics and illegal immigration. Borders, language, culture.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/24/inside-the-beltway-michael-savage-goes-to-washingt/

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    • Agree: danand
    • Replies: @Stephen Paul Foster
    I have listened to Michael Savage for years, and while sometimes he can be a complete screwball, he is the most outrageously funny person on radio with a savage wit and a clear-eyed (tragic) explanation for the "toileting" of CA.
    , @dwb
    Agree completely.

    Savage is a nut, but he often mixes in some real insights and always mixes in plenty of laughs.

    I have been listening to him, on and off, for more than 20 years, since his afternoon show on the local station here (KSFO).
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  8. Anon[313] • Disclaimer says:

    Bill Simmons has been saying that Los Angeles is a much more desirable place (especially for young people) to live now because of Uber, Lyft etc.

    Another interesting thing is how few NYT commenters mention Mexicans. You hear much more about diversity, but it seems like few of them dwell on Mexican Americans for very long.

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    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    God bless Adam Carola, a guy who got rich but grew up poor in North Hollywood and realizes what a bad deal Mexifornia is for working-class native Californians.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGhrb2c817k

    Listen to the end.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy_rOxobTRg

    , @Jack Hanson
    Bill Simmons is full of shit.

    Outside of a few monied areas LA is turning into San Fran with less fog pretty quickly.
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  9. I’d add Dennis Prager.

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  10. Not many members of the right-wing intelligentsia backed Trump, but the writers and thinkers who did — from mainstream conservatives to the alt-right fringe — were heavily Californian: the Claremont Institute’s West Coast Straussians, Michael “Flight 93 Election” Anton, Mickey Kaus, Victor Davis Hanson, Ron Unz,

    Ron Unz backed Trump?Did I miss something?

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    • Replies: @J.Ross
    He means Unz is clearly in this ill-defined category that is sometimes called "Alt Right" or lumped in with the Trump phenomenon. They do this on purpose, it's a kind of mockery and censorship at the same time: how can you have a more elegant category if you don't exist?
    , @Twinkie

    Ron Unz backed Trump?Did I miss something?
     
    If you allow people who back Trump a megaphone (or a microphone, more like), you are ipso facto a Trumpist.

    That's why we* must all hang together or we shall hang separately.

    *The "Alt-right," HBD-truthers, anti-immigration types, social conservatives, trad Catholics, evangelical Protestants, gun rights groups, anti-affirmative action activists, etc. etc. - basically anyone who is a class enemy of the vibrant proletariat and its thought leaders.
    , @Jack Hanson
    Steve Sailer backed Trump? LMAO.
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  11. Ross just proves you see what you want to see; you hear what you want to hear. He has neither eyes nor ears, poor soul.

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    • Replies: @Tiny Duck
    Correct

    California is a great place to live but you have to be the best of the best and a hard worker to live there

    Read the Comments and yuh will see over there that everyone there disagrees with you guys

    California is the future it is diverse and ruck
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  12. Be sure to click on the “California essays” link in Douthat’s article.

    Without reading them first some of Douthat’s comments make no sense.

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  13. @Simonini
    Ross seems smart enough to think this through but I guess he lacks the moral courage. Eventually Republican-leaning voters will run out of places to run, but you can still pump in enough immigrants to swamp them wherever they end up. Replacement doesn't require displacement. And even if somewher like North Dakota remains relatively intact, once enough states have been captured to control the federal government it won't matter.

    This has already happened in a lot of other places around the country besides California. Any town that has a meat packing plant has seen a large influx of East Africans. Plenty of places have had a large influx of Hispanics. The difference is there hasn’t been the run up in real estate and cost of living that coastal California has seen. A big part of the plan has been indoctrinating young people that they are racist if they oppose any of it. That has had some success.

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    Any town that has a meat packing plant has seen a large influx of East Africans.
     
    Monmouth and Galesburg, Illinois. There are tons of Africans in both towns.
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  14. Don’t forget Me, Tucker Carlson and most of the guys I grew up with in a working-class suburb of San Francisco, most of whom can no longer afford to live in the town we grew up in.

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    • Replies: @gunner29

    Don’t forget Me, Tucker Carlson and most of the guys I grew up with in a working-class suburb of San Francisco, most of whom can no longer afford to live in the town we grew up in
     
    Which working class suburb was this????

    I just looked up Tucker, he was born in SF, raised in La Jolla,(probably top 50 in wealth for the US) went to high school at a big bucks school in Rhode Island. Daddy was the head of Voice of America and president of PBS. Stepmom was an heir to the Swanson frozen food empire.

    The only time he was in a working class suburb was when the freeway passed thru it! He's the definition of being born with a silver spoon in his mouth!

    And the reason you can't afford a house in Kali is the gobt puts about $200K+ in fees and permits to break ground on a house. And the planning dept requires 20% of the land to be open space, another 20% for underclass, feral minorities, another 20% because it's an Indian burial ground or the Indians walked thru there a couple of thousand years ago,and it's sacred.

    I know peeps that found out the acreage they bought had some kind of endangered plant or animal on it and eliminated them; because they were aware they couldn't use the land if some shithead from the gobt found out.
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  15. @Anon
    Bill Simmons has been saying that Los Angeles is a much more desirable place (especially for young people) to live now because of Uber, Lyft etc.

    Another interesting thing is how few NYT commenters mention Mexicans. You hear much more about diversity, but it seems like few of them dwell on Mexican Americans for very long.

    God bless Adam Carola, a guy who got rich but grew up poor in North Hollywood and realizes what a bad deal Mexifornia is for working-class native Californians.

    Listen to the end.

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    • LOL: Svigor
    • Replies: @Polynikes
    He's great and he's been beating this drum for over a decade. Hawaii once boycotted his loveline show because he called them stupid and asked "what great inventions did the Hawaiins invent?"
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  16. OT Robert Mueller Unmasked by Congressman Louis Gohmert

    Republicans have started to fight back, they talk about Mueller’s ABLE DANGER screwups. As in, Gohmert blames Mueller for not allowing interagency informational flow that was critically related to the September Eleventh terrorists. This is a big deal. I hope Gohmert doesn’t have any baseball practice in his future.

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    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    Didn't the last guy (Weldon) who made a big fuss about Able Danger find himself suddenly under FBI investigation which cost him re-election although no charges were brought?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger#Able_Danger_and_the_9/11_Commission

    followed by

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curt_Weldon#2006_Investigation

    Anon 9.08 - "Heck, in the UK they stand by while their daughters are groomed for abuse"

    Fathers who went to the police were threatened with arrest for various racist crimes.

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  17. There will be no white-middle-class out-migration to, say, Hungary to ease the path to a Democratic supermajority.

    There are a few odd birds (even one born in California!) who have nests to fly to and could do exactly that. We just saw Victor Orban win, while you can’t even get Californians to turn right at Ralph’s.

    The Connecticut House of Representatives just passed governor Malloy’s fair housing bill. We are now looking at a Californicated future of affirmatively furthered riffraff moving into our towns.

    It might be better to live out old age attending Hungarian operas in Transylvania.

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    The outward migration is also prevalent in CT. If it wasn't for East Hartford's Pratt & Whitney, Farmingon's United Technologies and the Greenwich hedge funds, Connecticut would be like Mississippi. The small towns up north are dying while Hartford, Bridgeport and New Haven are predominantly black, black, blackety-black and brown. Malloy has been a complete waste as a governor but in reality it doesn't really matter anymore.
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  18. @Simonini
    Ross seems smart enough to think this through but I guess he lacks the moral courage. Eventually Republican-leaning voters will run out of places to run, but you can still pump in enough immigrants to swamp them wherever they end up. Replacement doesn't require displacement. And even if somewher like North Dakota remains relatively intact, once enough states have been captured to control the federal government it won't matter.

    Except Machiavelli advised better to kill your enemies than make them poor. A massive amount of Whites as fifth class helots and serfs who are suddenly poor and have less than their parents and grandparents is a call to ultra violent revolution

    Douthat sees this and is rightly scared. Mexico is already making noises about annexing CA, TX etc. Import Mexicans get annexation to Mexico.

    Mexican reconquista vs American reconqista is an ugly no quarter race war for America. And that is inevitable if mass immigration is not stopped. The ak 47 gives populations targeted for elimination the ability to fight back ask Somoza.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Something I wonder about, but it's hard to find information on - what is the attitude of CA's numerous Asians (and blacks, Middle Easterners, etc) to all the talk about "Reconquista"?
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  19. @syonredux

    Not many members of the right-wing intelligentsia backed Trump, but the writers and thinkers who did — from mainstream conservatives to the alt-right fringe — were heavily Californian: the Claremont Institute’s West Coast Straussians, Michael “Flight 93 Election” Anton, Mickey Kaus, Victor Davis Hanson, Ron Unz,
     
    Ron Unz backed Trump?Did I miss something?

    He means Unz is clearly in this ill-defined category that is sometimes called “Alt Right” or lumped in with the Trump phenomenon. They do this on purpose, it’s a kind of mockery and censorship at the same time: how can you have a more elegant category if you don’t exist?

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  20. @syonredux

    Not many members of the right-wing intelligentsia backed Trump, but the writers and thinkers who did — from mainstream conservatives to the alt-right fringe — were heavily Californian: the Claremont Institute’s West Coast Straussians, Michael “Flight 93 Election” Anton, Mickey Kaus, Victor Davis Hanson, Ron Unz,
     
    Ron Unz backed Trump?Did I miss something?

    Ron Unz backed Trump?Did I miss something?

    If you allow people who back Trump a megaphone (or a microphone, more like), you are ipso facto a Trumpist.

    That’s why we* must all hang together or we shall hang separately.

    *The “Alt-right,” HBD-truthers, anti-immigration types, social conservatives, trad Catholics, evangelical Protestants, gun rights groups, anti-affirmative action activists, etc. etc. – basically anyone who is a class enemy of the vibrant proletariat and its thought leaders.

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    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    ... we* must all hang together or we shall hang separately.

    *... basically anyone who is a class enemy of the vibrant proletariat and its thought leaders.
     
    There may be an increasing number of actual American members of "the vibrant proletariat" who are freeing their minds from the "thought leaders." They should be encouraged to hang with us.

    Is it just me, or don't Marxist constructions like "vibrant proletariat" seem really annoying and dangerous threats to our own thoughts here in Rightland? The same question came to mind when my wheels crashed over Douthat's "native-born petit-bourgeoisie" in his article. It's like hitting an unmarked, four-inch-high edge of new pavement.

    It might be better not to allow leftthink to continue making us see ourselves as separate.

    http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/82/13582-004-473F0468.jpg
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  21. Douthat has been getting completely insufferable since Trump’s election. He knows perfectly well the answers to his questions but his job requires that he never answer them.

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  22. Anon[172] • Disclaimer says:

    Yeah, my parents and my brother’s family both moved out, first to Maryland, now in Fort Worth. I last visited Los Angeles about 20 years ago.

    I remember thinking that Los Angeles was fading away from my affections because the Latino and Jewish politicians had no concern for its weird William Mulholland/Raymond Chandler heritage. The Pan Pacific was allowed to burn down; all the Googie architecture was torn down. Famous residential architecture ripped apart and auctioned as art pieces. No preservation like with the older buildings on the east coast. Now however the lack of people like me is what would alienate me the most.

    I looked at the demographics of my home community in Los Angeles the other day at the excellent L.A. Times community data site. Previously all white, although I remember one Asian, now half white, a sixth each for Latino and Black, a tenth for Asian.

    My elementary school is 38 black, 24 Hispanic; junior high 63 black, 26 Hispanic; high school 73 black, 17 Hispanic. We did have some bussing in high school, but not so much, and brighter kids only. I looked at Greatschools.org to try to figure out where the white kids are going to school, but it’s mysterious. All the churches run some sort of school. I guess there are charter schools. Greatschools has a hilarious “study” that bemoans the achievement gap. Apparently blacks and Hispanics don’t have “access” to challenging academics, like AP courses. I think that works both ways. If you have them and nobody takes or passes them, they get cancelled, at which point you no longer have access to them. AP passage rates can’t be fudged like normal grades.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    A number of years ago during a Boy Scout event, I was surprised to find in my neighborhood a quite large Jewish private elementary school that had so many students that it had 23 Cub Scouts moving up to join the Boy Scouts in one year. This wasn't an Orthodox school, just normal Jews who went to public school when were were kids before busing came to LAUSD in 1978.

    The school is hidden away behind large hedges. The huge increase in Jewish private schools in Los Angeles over the last 40 years is almost never discussed in the mass media.

    , @Anonymous
    Yeah, my parents and my brother’s family both moved out, first to Maryland, now in Fort Worth.

    Why did they leave?
    , @benjaminl
    Big Texas cities like Fort Worth, though run by the GOP and not by CA Latino and Jewish pols, tend to have a similar lack of interest in the preservation of historic buildings, for Western libertarian free-market reasons.
    , @Pericles

    AP passage rates can’t be fudged like normal grades.

     

    Hold my artisanal THC-infused quinoa and watch this.
    , @Excal
    The whites are either in non-LAUSD areas, or they are going to private and charter schools, as you suspect. Many of those schools are religious. Many were started in the past 10-20 years by parents who would sell their children into slavery before sending them to an LAUSD school.

    Homeschooling is also more common than most people realise, and it is growing.

    As to the rest, there are very few supermajority-white schools of any kind in the LA area, but there are many schools with enough whites, or at least middle-class, to develop subcultures. This has been the case for a long time.

    This reflects LA, and the US (which largely follows LA), as a whole. The various cultures can more or less exist next to each other, as long as they don't mix much.
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  23. Don’t give them too many ideas, Ross.

    On the other hand, in the big picture it’s best for the right if all the right-leaners are driven out of California.

    Sorry, Steve.

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    • Replies: @Rod1963
    There is no place left to run that the white managerial class isn't going to f**k up the same they have done to CA. These people are insane and poison to the country.

    I watched these f**kers over the last 40 years ruin CA - it wasn't the blacks or Mexicans who did. It was the urban, college educated white middle and upper classes who did. The ones who worked for the school system, police, prison guards, etc. All sold their soul and the states future so they could have fat paychecks and pensions at the cost of electing a bunch of Lefty lunatics in Sacramento to just wreck the state. Then they fled like rats leaving a sinking ship to infest other states. Oregon, Washington, Colorado, etc.
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  24. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    There will be no white-middle-class out-migration to, say, Hungary to ease the path to a Democratic supermajority.
     
    There are a few odd birds (even one born in California!) who have nests to fly to and could do exactly that. We just saw Victor Orban win, while you can't even get Californians to turn right at Ralph's.

    The Connecticut House of Representatives just passed governor Malloy's fair housing bill. We are now looking at a Californicated future of affirmatively furthered riffraff moving into our towns.

    It might be better to live out old age attending Hungarian operas in Transylvania.

    The outward migration is also prevalent in CT. If it wasn’t for East Hartford’s Pratt & Whitney, Farmingon’s United Technologies and the Greenwich hedge funds, Connecticut would be like Mississippi. The small towns up north are dying while Hartford, Bridgeport and New Haven are predominantly black, black, blackety-black and brown. Malloy has been a complete waste as a governor but in reality it doesn’t really matter anymore.

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    Losing GE last year was a big deal. Malloy and the rest of our Democrat state government did nothing to keep them, practically driving them out of town. Sacred Heart University, located nearby, bought the property. General Electric World Headquarters in Fairfield, Connecticut. They bought it cheap and they pay no taxes.

    One wonders how long Connecticut's image as a rich state will hold out.

    There are plans for Bridgeport, "The Slum Without a City," to gentrify its waterfront real estate. To do that, they will have to affirmatively f*ck the rest of us.

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  25. @George
    Israel Admits: Plan to Relocate Asylum Seekers Has Collapsed, No Way to Forcibly Deport Africans

    Israel tells top court it will stop holding deportation hearings and any previous decisions on deportations have now been nullified

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-admits-no-way-we-can-forcefully-deport-african-asylum-seekers-1.6028435

    Fifty more refugees approved to leave Manus and Nauru for US

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/apr/18/fifty-more-refugees-approved-to-leave-manus-and-nauru-for-us

    Israel Admits: Plan to Relocate Asylum Seekers Has Collapsed, No Way to Forcibly Deport Africans

    Israel tells top court it will stop holding deportation hearings and any previous decisions on deportations have now been nullified

    Ah – so that’s what serious countries do when their courts start enforcing suicide pacts.

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  26. @Anon
    Yeah, my parents and my brother's family both moved out, first to Maryland, now in Fort Worth. I last visited Los Angeles about 20 years ago.

    I remember thinking that Los Angeles was fading away from my affections because the Latino and Jewish politicians had no concern for its weird William Mulholland/Raymond Chandler heritage. The Pan Pacific was allowed to burn down; all the Googie architecture was torn down. Famous residential architecture ripped apart and auctioned as art pieces. No preservation like with the older buildings on the east coast. Now however the lack of people like me is what would alienate me the most.

    I looked at the demographics of my home community in Los Angeles the other day at the excellent L.A. Times community data site. Previously all white, although I remember one Asian, now half white, a sixth each for Latino and Black, a tenth for Asian.

    My elementary school is 38 black, 24 Hispanic; junior high 63 black, 26 Hispanic; high school 73 black, 17 Hispanic. We did have some bussing in high school, but not so much, and brighter kids only. I looked at Greatschools.org to try to figure out where the white kids are going to school, but it's mysterious. All the churches run some sort of school. I guess there are charter schools. Greatschools has a hilarious "study" that bemoans the achievement gap. Apparently blacks and Hispanics don't have "access" to challenging academics, like AP courses. I think that works both ways. If you have them and nobody takes or passes them, they get cancelled, at which point you no longer have access to them. AP passage rates can't be fudged like normal grades.

    A number of years ago during a Boy Scout event, I was surprised to find in my neighborhood a quite large Jewish private elementary school that had so many students that it had 23 Cub Scouts moving up to join the Boy Scouts in one year. This wasn’t an Orthodox school, just normal Jews who went to public school when were were kids before busing came to LAUSD in 1978.

    The school is hidden away behind large hedges. The huge increase in Jewish private schools in Los Angeles over the last 40 years is almost never discussed in the mass media.

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    "The school is hidden away behind large hedges. The huge increase in Jewish private schools in Los Angeles over the last 40 years is almost never discussed in the mass media."

    You have to control the "money". The only way to control the "money" is by eliminating the ability of 278 members of Congress and the POTUS from borrowing "money". You do this by an Art V CoS whereby the US Constitution Art I Sect. 8 Clause 2 is amended to: "To borrow money on the credit of the United States with the approval of 3/4 State Legislatures;". 1 topic here: State Governments taking power back to the founding.
    , @Redneck farmer
    How many members of the media send their kids to private schools?
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    Around that same time, in 1978, I worked on a forest fire in the Rocky Mountains. At the start, when we got called up, we were driven in army trucks up to the site, where we used a rustic summer camp as our base. Upon arrival, when we walked into the log-constructed main hall to meet and have our first planning session, we found a big Israeli flag hung broadside in front of us.

    We all laughed. Our base was a summer camp for Jewish kids.

    For the duration of the fire, we slept in their log cabins and held our meetings in front of their flag, just like good IDF soldiers.

    , @Anon
    Reminds me of this:

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/yes-steve-bannon-asked-why-a-school-had-many-hanukkah-books.html

    The court declaration from the ex-wife outlined three separate anti-Semitic remarks that Bannon allegedly made as she toured some of the most elite private schools in the Los Angeles area for their daughters.

    At one, Westland School, Bannon’s ex-wife said he “asked the director why there were so many Chanukah books in the library.”

    Then after the couple toured Willows Community School, she said he “asked me if it bothered me that the school used to be in a Temple. I said no and asked why he asked … he did not respond.”

    Regarding another academy, The Archer School for Girls, the ex-wife claimed Bannon “went on to say the biggest problem he had with Archer is the number of Jews that attend. He said that he doesn’t like Jews and that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiney brats’ and that he didn’t want the girls going to school with Jews.”
    :
    :
    So from [ex-wife] Piccard’s point of view, then, the Hannukah question was a signal of Bannon’s anti-Semitism, of his desire to not have his daughters in too Jewish a school environment. From the [school] director’s point of view, it was an anodyne question about whether and to what extent the school was truly secular.
     
    , @benjaminl
    I'm quite curious about why some CA school districts, like Los Gatos, Newport Beach, Manhattan Beach, and Calabasas, have stayed mostly white rather than becoming majority Asian. Is it some kind of subtle signaling?

    Economists like to talk about "hard to fake" signals, and homeownership and even more so, school enrollment of one's children, are very hard to fake. Thus advocates for forced busing etc. should always be put on the spot about where their own kids enroll.
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  27. Ron Unz is a Trump supporter? LOL. He said on a thread recently:

    Whites in CA get along perfectly well with Hispanics, and Trump’s rants against Mexican immigrants just made him look like a nut

    Yep, that’s some strong support right there. I suppose using Douthat’s yardstick, Fred Reed is also solidly Trumpian, as is John McCain.

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  28. @Anon
    Bill Simmons has been saying that Los Angeles is a much more desirable place (especially for young people) to live now because of Uber, Lyft etc.

    Another interesting thing is how few NYT commenters mention Mexicans. You hear much more about diversity, but it seems like few of them dwell on Mexican Americans for very long.

    Bill Simmons is full of shit.

    Outside of a few monied areas LA is turning into San Fran with less fog pretty quickly.

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  29. @syonredux

    Not many members of the right-wing intelligentsia backed Trump, but the writers and thinkers who did — from mainstream conservatives to the alt-right fringe — were heavily Californian: the Claremont Institute’s West Coast Straussians, Michael “Flight 93 Election” Anton, Mickey Kaus, Victor Davis Hanson, Ron Unz,
     
    Ron Unz backed Trump?Did I miss something?

    Steve Sailer backed Trump? LMAO.

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    Steve Sailer backed Trump? LMAO.
     
    Yeah, Sailer didn’t support Trump at all during the election. Maybe Sailer was afraid Trump would start fixing those things which are his Sailer’s blogging bread and butter. What does he do then? Work as a stock boy at Auto Zone by day and deliver pizzas at night in his 25-year old Toyota? Might do him some good to have a real schedule and some responsibility. Some people have a vested interest in not having problems fixed. I think Sailer fits in to that category. I know Rush Limbaugh and other mainstream conservatives secretly wanted Hillary. It would’ve been good for business.
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  30. Was this your first shout-out in the NYT, Steve?

    Another question, for anyone who can answer: are California Mexicans the most toxic, hateful and anti-white Mexicans?

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    I have seen wide agreement that Tejanos are based and SoCal Mexicans can be a pain.
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  31. As a foreigner visting LA a few years ago, my main observations were:
    1. Shock at how incredibly run down much of it was…I mean, I’d heard about Detroit and the rust belt, but I was genuinely stunned to see dirty and broken windows, dangerously cracked pavements, trash heaps and omnipresent vagrants (I’ve been accosted for spare change plenty of times in my life, but never before in the middle of the road while crossing the street) in the downtown of the Golden City of my childhood imagination.
    2. Surprise that the entire SoCal working class was Mexican. Obviously, I knew there were plenty of Latino immigrants into California, but to find literally every single service job performed by a hispanic person (who were, invariably, polite and friendly I should add)…well, having socio-economic classes so clearly demarcated along ethnic lines strikes me as a recipe for massive civil strife not too far down the line.

    Still the drive from LA to Vegas was among the most spectacular and enjoyable road trips I’ve ever undertaken. So there’s that.

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    dangerously cracked pavements
    Repeated, same font but in different sizes, over the skeptical face of a young beardless foreigner, standing in front of a structure fire.
    dangerously cracked pavements
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  32. @Steve Sailer
    A number of years ago during a Boy Scout event, I was surprised to find in my neighborhood a quite large Jewish private elementary school that had so many students that it had 23 Cub Scouts moving up to join the Boy Scouts in one year. This wasn't an Orthodox school, just normal Jews who went to public school when were were kids before busing came to LAUSD in 1978.

    The school is hidden away behind large hedges. The huge increase in Jewish private schools in Los Angeles over the last 40 years is almost never discussed in the mass media.

    “The school is hidden away behind large hedges. The huge increase in Jewish private schools in Los Angeles over the last 40 years is almost never discussed in the mass media.”

    You have to control the “money”. The only way to control the “money” is by eliminating the ability of 278 members of Congress and the POTUS from borrowing “money”. You do this by an Art V CoS whereby the US Constitution Art I Sect. 8 Clause 2 is amended to: “To borrow money on the credit of the United States with the approval of 3/4 State Legislatures;”. 1 topic here: State Governments taking power back to the founding.

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  33. @Twinkie

    Ron Unz backed Trump?Did I miss something?
     
    If you allow people who back Trump a megaphone (or a microphone, more like), you are ipso facto a Trumpist.

    That's why we* must all hang together or we shall hang separately.

    *The "Alt-right," HBD-truthers, anti-immigration types, social conservatives, trad Catholics, evangelical Protestants, gun rights groups, anti-affirmative action activists, etc. etc. - basically anyone who is a class enemy of the vibrant proletariat and its thought leaders.

    … we* must all hang together or we shall hang separately.

    *… basically anyone who is a class enemy of the vibrant proletariat and its thought leaders.

    There may be an increasing number of actual American members of “the vibrant proletariat” who are freeing their minds from the “thought leaders.” They should be encouraged to hang with us.

    Is it just me, or don’t Marxist constructions like “vibrant proletariat” seem really annoying and dangerous threats to our own thoughts here in Rightland? The same question came to mind when my wheels crashed over Douthat’s “native-born petit-bourgeoisie” in his article. It’s like hitting an unmarked, four-inch-high edge of new pavement.

    It might be better not to allow leftthink to continue making us see ourselves as separate.

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    Hey! Don't be bagging on my nom du guerre!

    Lenin wrote while in exile in Switzerland that the greatest threat to the success of the proletariat revolution was the petit bourgeoisie! That's why it has been my handle since 2001, the first year I started reading Sailer on VDARE from the open-air asylum of UC Berkeley as a Marxist scholar.

    The problem is that when people hear you say "Marxist scholar," they automatically assume you support such intellectual graft, without reading any of your critical white paper. Douthat is right when he states that the "little capitalists" are leaving California in droves, and have been for decades, as a result of the reconquista.
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  34. @Steve Sailer
    A number of years ago during a Boy Scout event, I was surprised to find in my neighborhood a quite large Jewish private elementary school that had so many students that it had 23 Cub Scouts moving up to join the Boy Scouts in one year. This wasn't an Orthodox school, just normal Jews who went to public school when were were kids before busing came to LAUSD in 1978.

    The school is hidden away behind large hedges. The huge increase in Jewish private schools in Los Angeles over the last 40 years is almost never discussed in the mass media.

    How many members of the media send their kids to private schools?

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  35. But the state’s larger exile population does present a problem for the “make America California” project, because while you can displace Republican-leaning voters from one state, you can’t do the same for the country as a whole.

    How clueless can you get? The same demographic shifts that happened to California are happening throughout the country, just at a faster pace! California is only ahead of the curve by 30 years. The problem for the rest of the country is that inland states will not have Silicon Valley or a Hollywood engorged on global monopoly profits to prop up their impoverished populations. The rest of America will be Fresno and Bakersfield, but without the tax base of a Santa Monica and Palo Alto to offset some of the pain.

    Trump is America’s Governor Pete Wilson and like Governor Pete Wilson, the judiciary, the media and government bureaucracy will thwart his attempts to slow the radical transformation.

    Texas will be Blue in a decade. The Dems know this, and surely even Douthat know this. Once California and Texas are permanently Democrat, well…

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    Clifford, I could not agree with you more. California's state government "income" (tax) comes from a very small slice of a single percent of its population. The local governments derived from what is nearly universally thought to be unsustainable real estate values (a "middle income" home anywhere in the SF bay area, CA, bought today will carry with it a yearly property tax assessment of $20K).

    A partial reason companies locate in California is that the moderate weather typically allows uninterrupted 365 business operation. Localities that force even a 1 or 2 day a year interruption can significantly impact the bottom line: often enough to outweigh the delta of the aggregated California higher cost. A nasty shakeup, especially a series of them, mighty change those calculations?

    From a post to my daughters 6th grade parents chat group (~70% of her classmates parents are East Indian.):

    see last paragraph

    New Delhi: In yet another shocking incident of racial abuse, a woman was attacked at Milpitas in California (United States of America) on Sunday while she was standing on the guest parking spot on the road across her upper-level apartment. The incident, which took place at 1540 hours (local time), left the Indian neighbours in complete shock. As they rushed to save the lady, identified as 33-year-old Sharda KS, they also were assaulted too. According to Samrat Nandi, an IT engineer with Zensar Technologies, a white male, who was naked waist-up, tried to park his car where Sharda was standing. Suddenly, he started hurling racial abuses at the lady.

    Sharda rushed for help while calling out her husband’s name. Hearing her voice, Samrat and his wife Monima (who stay on the lower level) and a family friend Aniruddha Mondal immediately came outside. While Samrat dialled 911, the white male continued to hurl expletives and was “almost about to hit” Sharda and her husband who was trying to protect her. Meanwhile, the man grabbed Aniruddha and punched him in the face, leaving him profusely bleeding. As per Samrat, another “Hispanic-appearance male joined the fight along with the white man.”

    Soon, a white lady too joined the scuffle and started abusing. She held Monima and shouted: “We are white, what are you going to do b***h.” The scuffle was finally sorted when a neighbour (white mixed race male) intervened. The trio left the scene while continuing to hurl racial abuses towards the Indian group.

    While the group was helping Aniruddha as he was bleeding profusely, the white shirtless man came back again, grabbed Monima and slapped her on the face. The man then got into a black Nissan Altima car (Registration number - 8CQW497) parked near Nandi’s rented apartment and fled. The Hispanic man and the white lady rushed inside an apartment in the same community. At around 4:00 pm, the US police recorded the victims’ statements.

    Samrat has alleged that the entire incident was recorded by a white lady whom the group does not know. He claimed that she provided the video to police. However, police officials told the complainants that the video was shaky and did not let them see it when they demanded. Albeit police told them later that they have identified the Hispanic man, who is a resident of the same community where the incident took place, and the lady who assaulted them, yet they refused to divulge their details.

    The Indian group, another victim of hateful harassment since Donald Trump was elected president, has contacted the Consulate General of India in this regard and are awaiting justice.
     
    http://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/we-are-white-what-are-you-going-to-do-bh-indian-woman-attacked-in-california/221111
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  36. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:

    Is Douthat part Lebanese or Armenian?

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  37. @Steve Sailer
    A number of years ago during a Boy Scout event, I was surprised to find in my neighborhood a quite large Jewish private elementary school that had so many students that it had 23 Cub Scouts moving up to join the Boy Scouts in one year. This wasn't an Orthodox school, just normal Jews who went to public school when were were kids before busing came to LAUSD in 1978.

    The school is hidden away behind large hedges. The huge increase in Jewish private schools in Los Angeles over the last 40 years is almost never discussed in the mass media.

    Around that same time, in 1978, I worked on a forest fire in the Rocky Mountains. At the start, when we got called up, we were driven in army trucks up to the site, where we used a rustic summer camp as our base. Upon arrival, when we walked into the log-constructed main hall to meet and have our first planning session, we found a big Israeli flag hung broadside in front of us.

    We all laughed. Our base was a summer camp for Jewish kids.

    For the duration of the fire, we slept in their log cabins and held our meetings in front of their flag, just like good IDF soldiers.

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  38. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Yeah, my parents and my brother's family both moved out, first to Maryland, now in Fort Worth. I last visited Los Angeles about 20 years ago.

    I remember thinking that Los Angeles was fading away from my affections because the Latino and Jewish politicians had no concern for its weird William Mulholland/Raymond Chandler heritage. The Pan Pacific was allowed to burn down; all the Googie architecture was torn down. Famous residential architecture ripped apart and auctioned as art pieces. No preservation like with the older buildings on the east coast. Now however the lack of people like me is what would alienate me the most.

    I looked at the demographics of my home community in Los Angeles the other day at the excellent L.A. Times community data site. Previously all white, although I remember one Asian, now half white, a sixth each for Latino and Black, a tenth for Asian.

    My elementary school is 38 black, 24 Hispanic; junior high 63 black, 26 Hispanic; high school 73 black, 17 Hispanic. We did have some bussing in high school, but not so much, and brighter kids only. I looked at Greatschools.org to try to figure out where the white kids are going to school, but it's mysterious. All the churches run some sort of school. I guess there are charter schools. Greatschools has a hilarious "study" that bemoans the achievement gap. Apparently blacks and Hispanics don't have "access" to challenging academics, like AP courses. I think that works both ways. If you have them and nobody takes or passes them, they get cancelled, at which point you no longer have access to them. AP passage rates can't be fudged like normal grades.

    Yeah, my parents and my brother’s family both moved out, first to Maryland, now in Fort Worth.

    Why did they leave?

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    Why did they leave?
     
    Brother's company opened an office in D.C. and aging parents followed. Company aquired, brother laid off, employment situation poor, so everyone up and moved to sister-in-law's hometown of Fort Worth where her aging parents were. Her parents neighborhood is very Hispanic now, so they helped with scouting a new neighborhood, which consisted of staking out schools and gathering demographics on the students there ... which you can do online now. But real estate agents are prohibited from even responding to school demographics questions.
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  39. @Isolee
    As a foreigner visting LA a few years ago, my main observations were:
    1. Shock at how incredibly run down much of it was...I mean, I'd heard about Detroit and the rust belt, but I was genuinely stunned to see dirty and broken windows, dangerously cracked pavements, trash heaps and omnipresent vagrants (I've been accosted for spare change plenty of times in my life, but never before in the middle of the road while crossing the street) in the downtown of the Golden City of my childhood imagination.
    2. Surprise that the entire SoCal working class was Mexican. Obviously, I knew there were plenty of Latino immigrants into California, but to find literally every single service job performed by a hispanic person (who were, invariably, polite and friendly I should add)...well, having socio-economic classes so clearly demarcated along ethnic lines strikes me as a recipe for massive civil strife not too far down the line.

    Still the drive from LA to Vegas was among the most spectacular and enjoyable road trips I've ever undertaken. So there's that.

    dangerously cracked pavements
    Repeated, same font but in different sizes, over the skeptical face of a young beardless foreigner, standing in front of a structure fire.
    dangerously cracked pavements

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  40. @Simonini
    Ross seems smart enough to think this through but I guess he lacks the moral courage. Eventually Republican-leaning voters will run out of places to run, but you can still pump in enough immigrants to swamp them wherever they end up. Replacement doesn't require displacement. And even if somewher like North Dakota remains relatively intact, once enough states have been captured to control the federal government it won't matter.

    It isn’t just the immigrants who swamp red areas to turn them blue. government programs shift blacks to red areas and blue staters flee the consequence of their policies only to eventually turn their new locale blue.

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  41. @Simonini
    Ross seems smart enough to think this through but I guess he lacks the moral courage. Eventually Republican-leaning voters will run out of places to run, but you can still pump in enough immigrants to swamp them wherever they end up. Replacement doesn't require displacement. And even if somewher like North Dakota remains relatively intact, once enough states have been captured to control the federal government it won't matter.

    Douthat, like the charlatan David Brooks, is a safety valve. His job is to play the role of the sad sack Washington Generals of Harlem Globetrotters fame. Lose with dignity every week while never threatening anything. Take some sort of innocuous and completely irrelevant moral stance to pontificate about while losing on every moral, political and social issue.

    The conservative patsies that write for the NY Times serve two purposes: (1) To create the appearance of impartiality while promoting the most milquetoast and irrelevant positions; and most critically (2) Convince liberal readers that there is a Elite Consensus so that there are no issues left up for debate besides a few religious qualms and quibbles over political etiquette.

    Douthat is paid well to play dumb which is much worse than David Brooks who I am quite convinced is actually kind of dumb.

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  42. @AndrewR
    Was this your first shout-out in the NYT, Steve?

    Another question, for anyone who can answer: are California Mexicans the most toxic, hateful and anti-white Mexicans?

    I have seen wide agreement that Tejanos are based and SoCal Mexicans can be a pain.

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  43. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Steve Sailer backed Trump? LMAO.

    Steve Sailer backed Trump? LMAO.

    Yeah, Sailer didn’t support Trump at all during the election. Maybe Sailer was afraid Trump would start fixing those things which are his Sailer’s blogging bread and butter. What does he do then? Work as a stock boy at Auto Zone by day and deliver pizzas at night in his 25-year old Toyota? Might do him some good to have a real schedule and some responsibility. Some people have a vested interest in not having problems fixed. I think Sailer fits in to that category. I know Rush Limbaugh and other mainstream conservatives secretly wanted Hillary. It would’ve been good for business.

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    I think it was more Trump was the inverse of his senpai Romney and he offended Sailer's boomer decorum.
    , @Berty
    Considering what a failure Trump is and how horrendously unpopular he's become I think Steve was correct in his judgement.
    , @TTSSYF
    You don't know or listen to Rush much, or you wouldn't make such an ignorant comment about him and other conservatives secretly wanting Hillary to win (it's actually a Dem talking point -- I used to hear that kind of stuff from my yellow-dog Dem stepfather all the time). Rush got his start in the 1980s when Reagan and Bush Sr. were President, and he has never needed a Dem in the White House to entertain or hold an audience. As he says, liberals are funny when they're out of power but dangerous when in power. He prefers them when they are funny.
    , @BB753
    As far as regular readers like myself know, Sailer was rooting for Ted Cruz during the primaries and Unz turned temporarily into a Bernie Bro.
    , @AnotherGuessModel
    In the run-up to the election, there were persistent questions as to whom Steve endorsed in the primaries, and later on, whether he endorsed Trump, to no answer. Eventually he replied in the comments that he does not publicly endorse presidential candidates, and does not tell readers who they should vote for. (I could have sworn the comment was in the days after Trump won, but can't find it. So my timing is off, but I'm certain he said this.) Better to rally behind policy ideas and not politicians, that's my take on it. You have a harsher assessment. In the Nov. 8 post "Election Day Open Thread", he wrote:

    What's up? - It's been a fun election, hasn't it? - And it's been the most serious Presidential election in recent years in terms of massively important issues about the future of America finally being aired by one of the candidates.
     
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  44. Since the 1990s new Californians are disproportionately likely to make around $200,000 a year, …

    Yes, and even more disproportionally likely to be picking vegetables seasonally at $5/hr and getting health care at emergency rooms for “free” and claiming 4 dependents who may or may not be living in Mexico or at all on their income taxes that they disproportionally don’t pay. This Douthat needs to learn about the mean vs. the median and distributions and that sort of thing, or else, drive around a bit more and look out the car window.

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    Excellent point. Don’t forget the “free” car seat and stroller for women when they give birth, plus the “free” schooling that costs State and fed taxpayers more than $12,000 per year and more.

    NON-citizens can and do get these handouts all the time here.

    Even illegal aliens, since asking for proof of legal presence in the country would be almost a crime here, not breaking our laws to come here or stay here.
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  45. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    On the brighter side, robots will ensure that crops don’t rot in the fields anymore.

    https://www.teslarati.com/ai-powered-robots-us-farmers-diminishing-labor-force/

    Facing a diminishing workforce, some farmers in the United States are looking to artificial intelligence as a means to adapt to the changing labor landscape. In Florida, for example, Gary Wishnatzki of Wish Farms is rolling out AI-powered robots that are capable of picking his crops.
    Wish Farms in FL made a name for itself as a producer of premium strawberries and blueberries. Strawberries are a particularly demanding crop; since every three days, the plant will give off new ripe fruit. If these fruits are not harvested according to their cycle, the strawberry plant dies.

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  46. I observe that Ross Douthat —like many BLUE CALIFORNIA! boosters— misses an important fact about the California’s finances, see link below. And there is an apocalyptic science fiction novel waiting to be written about The Big One hitting San Francisco and/or LA while the Republicans control the US House, Senate, and Presidency.

    https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalrankings/california

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  47. @Malcolm X-Lax
    Don't forget Me, Tucker Carlson and most of the guys I grew up with in a working-class suburb of San Francisco, most of whom can no longer afford to live in the town we grew up in.

    Don’t forget Me, Tucker Carlson and most of the guys I grew up with in a working-class suburb of San Francisco, most of whom can no longer afford to live in the town we grew up in

    Which working class suburb was this????

    I just looked up Tucker, he was born in SF, raised in La Jolla,(probably top 50 in wealth for the US) went to high school at a big bucks school in Rhode Island. Daddy was the head of Voice of America and president of PBS. Stepmom was an heir to the Swanson frozen food empire.

    The only time he was in a working class suburb was when the freeway passed thru it! He’s the definition of being born with a silver spoon in his mouth!

    And the reason you can’t afford a house in Kali is the gobt puts about $200K+ in fees and permits to break ground on a house. And the planning dept requires 20% of the land to be open space, another 20% for underclass, feral minorities, another 20% because it’s an Indian burial ground or the Indians walked thru there a couple of thousand years ago,and it’s sacred.

    I know peeps that found out the acreage they bought had some kind of endangered plant or animal on it and eliminated them; because they were aware they couldn’t use the land if some shithead from the gobt found out.

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    Didn't mean to imply Tucker grew up with me, in the same town, or any formerly working-class town.
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  48. @anonymous
    The outward migration is also prevalent in CT. If it wasn't for East Hartford's Pratt & Whitney, Farmingon's United Technologies and the Greenwich hedge funds, Connecticut would be like Mississippi. The small towns up north are dying while Hartford, Bridgeport and New Haven are predominantly black, black, blackety-black and brown. Malloy has been a complete waste as a governor but in reality it doesn't really matter anymore.

    Losing GE last year was a big deal. Malloy and the rest of our Democrat state government did nothing to keep them, practically driving them out of town. Sacred Heart University, located nearby, bought the property. General Electric World Headquarters in Fairfield, Connecticut. They bought it cheap and they pay no taxes.

    One wonders how long Connecticut’s image as a rich state will hold out.

    There are plans for Bridgeport, “The Slum Without a City,” to gentrify its waterfront real estate. To do that, they will have to affirmatively f*ck the rest of us.

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    Here’s a link to a good blog post by the Manhattan Contrarian in 2015 on Connecticut’s self-destruction. At the time of the post, GE had not yet moved its headquarters from CT.

    https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2015/12/31/is-connecticut-self-destructing

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  49. Semi-OT

    http://www.wnyc.org/story/trump-inc-michael-cohen/

    WNYC, New York City’s NPR affiliate, has taken a sudden interest in the illegalities associated with New York’s immigrant community. Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, had two degrees of separation associations with some of the shadier elements of New York’s Russian emigre community, including insurance fraud, Medicaid fraud, car theft, money laundering and the FBI’s aptly named Operation BORIS (Big Organized Russian Insurance Scams). The NPR reporters are shocked, shocked at corruption and fraud on “Lower Broadway, Avenue X in Brighton Beach and under the Elevated Train in Long Island City”.

    Who is surprised in the least by any of this? Although there is no evidence that Cohen acted criminally, only that he had certain associations with fraudulent elements.

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    New York's (((Russian emigre community)))
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  50. @Hubbub
    Ross just proves you see what you want to see; you hear what you want to hear. He has neither eyes nor ears, poor soul.

    Correct

    California is a great place to live but you have to be the best of the best and a hard worker to live there

    Read the Comments and yuh will see over there that everyone there disagrees with you guys

    California is the future it is diverse and ruck

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    What is "ruck"?
    , @dwb
    "California is the future it is diverse and ruck"

    Well, that's almost a sentence.
    , @petit bourgeois
    Do you even live in California? I doubt it. Thou shouldn't make proclamations about things you know nothing about.

    California is a third-world cesspool.

    More than half of Los Angeles is functionally illiterate, meaning the mexicans/central americans can't read an electric bill or a bus route map.

    The dystopian future of California you speak of is illiteracy, obesity, heart disease and diabetes.

    My family members are economic refugees, who found sanctuary in Utah.
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  51. To begin with, you can’t understand the political transformation of California without understanding how much it has been shaped by a long-term middle class exodus — the out-migration, across years and decades, of the kind of people who in the Trump era tend to vote Republican, the native-born petit-bourgeoisie.

    He is saying those leaving California are Trump voters. But is this true? I thought the exodus from California contained a significant number of democrat voters who are now threatening to turn some of the neighboring states purple, sort of how Massachusetts refugees turned ME, NH and VT.

    That’s one of the dynamics with our current situation that is frustrating. Though whites on our side are numerically superior to whites on the left, they are getting reinforced daily via nonwhite immigration. Now we are getting colonized by both nonwhite immigrants and liberal whites moving away from their base areas to ours.

    Since mass deportations are not in the foreseeable future, the only thing that could reverse this is for a large chunk of the 40 percent of whites who vote democrat to come to their senses and stop voting for the party that no longer hides their contempt for them.

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    I actually, see this happening: white people are beginning to realize what is happening to them in their blue state. Most liberals would not be happy living in a Red State since they will always be considered "strangers." It is very hard to move to the South, Mountain States, or middle...Texas, if you are a liberal - you will never be welcome, or a part of the community. And, the wealthier, more educated people will certainly, not include you in their social life. There is a sort of visceral hatred of SJW's but it won't be shown - you just won't be joining their clubs and associations.

    Douthat is such a drag to read...he is so insufferably pompous and seems a bit P---y whipped to me...hmmm?...maybe he just comes across as always unsatisfied.I don't understand his obsession with Trump, don't really understand any men who are so incensed with Trump - I mean, I held my nose with Bush, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama (after 3 years). Most men who don't like Trump need to get over themselves and move-on; be productive & constructive. And, calling people petit-bourgeosie is so silly! - I mean, just don't. It seems people still think condescending to people is ok. Being haughty will shut the gates real quick in Red states; and, you will have no friends.

    California will become as dangerous as Mexico City and Brazil. The irony will be: cops are gonna be incompetent (and bribed) like in Mexico...because the petit-bourgeosie cops have moved to Nevada or Idaho, or North Carolina. There will be no white middle class left in the CA cities. Naturally, crime will increase, and it will be ugly smash & grabs, car-jackings, house robberies.

    My favorite RHW of Beverly Hills had her home broken into recently: all jewelry, shoes and handbags (millions of dollars worth) stolen. No suspects: stuff was probably sold in Brazil or wherever. The Black Market is alive and well in California. And, once the public has been disarmed, it's over. I like California but I see it becoming a dystopia first and foremost. The irony is: the liberal elites will be very interested in "special" walls once they don't feel safe. When there are less jobs for non-elite people (Democrats suck at creating jobs), they are just gonna take it from the wealthy. Cities will have more crime. Hollywood is also eroding...it's slow, but it is happening.

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  52. CA was a nice place when it looked more like the Traditional America.
    Pockets in Napa or the North coast still have that vibe, but fading I guess.

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    In response to the following twitter question, Let's play a game. Who can name a place in the world that got better when it went from majority White to minority White, Sally Kohn tweeted this yesterday.

    Easy: The United States of America. https://t.co/nzLTXfA6A1— Sally Kohn (@sallykohn) April 24, 2018
     
    I am surprised. Not by her sentiments, but by her thinking the USA was already majority non-white. I figured the commissars kept better track of the statistics.
    , @Clifford Brown
    California north of Fort Bragg is one of my favorite places in the country. I would never describe it as "Traditional America", but it certainly is an "America" I can get behind. A Libertarian Hippiedom mash-up that is not long for this World.
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  53. @Escher
    CA was a nice place when it looked more like the Traditional America.
    Pockets in Napa or the North coast still have that vibe, but fading I guess.

    In response to the following twitter question, Let’s play a game. Who can name a place in the world that got better when it went from majority White to minority White, Sally Kohn tweeted this yesterday.

    Easy: The United States of America. https://t.co/nzLTXfA6A1— Sally Kohn (@sallykohn) April 24, 2018

    I am surprised. Not by her sentiments, but by her thinking the USA was already majority non-white. I figured the commissars kept better track of the statistics.

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  54. @istevefan

    To begin with, you can’t understand the political transformation of California without understanding how much it has been shaped by a long-term middle class exodus — the out-migration, across years and decades, of the kind of people who in the Trump era tend to vote Republican, the native-born petit-bourgeoisie.
     
    He is saying those leaving California are Trump voters. But is this true? I thought the exodus from California contained a significant number of democrat voters who are now threatening to turn some of the neighboring states purple, sort of how Massachusetts refugees turned ME, NH and VT.

    That's one of the dynamics with our current situation that is frustrating. Though whites on our side are numerically superior to whites on the left, they are getting reinforced daily via nonwhite immigration. Now we are getting colonized by both nonwhite immigrants and liberal whites moving away from their base areas to ours.

    Since mass deportations are not in the foreseeable future, the only thing that could reverse this is for a large chunk of the 40 percent of whites who vote democrat to come to their senses and stop voting for the party that no longer hides their contempt for them.

    I actually, see this happening: white people are beginning to realize what is happening to them in their blue state. Most liberals would not be happy living in a Red State since they will always be considered “strangers.” It is very hard to move to the South, Mountain States, or middle…Texas, if you are a liberal – you will never be welcome, or a part of the community. And, the wealthier, more educated people will certainly, not include you in their social life. There is a sort of visceral hatred of SJW’s but it won’t be shown – you just won’t be joining their clubs and associations.

    Douthat is such a drag to read…he is so insufferably pompous and seems a bit P—y whipped to me…hmmm?…maybe he just comes across as always unsatisfied.I don’t understand his obsession with Trump, don’t really understand any men who are so incensed with Trump – I mean, I held my nose with Bush, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama (after 3 years). Most men who don’t like Trump need to get over themselves and move-on; be productive & constructive. And, calling people petit-bourgeosie is so silly! – I mean, just don’t. It seems people still think condescending to people is ok. Being haughty will shut the gates real quick in Red states; and, you will have no friends.

    California will become as dangerous as Mexico City and Brazil. The irony will be: cops are gonna be incompetent (and bribed) like in Mexico…because the petit-bourgeosie cops have moved to Nevada or Idaho, or North Carolina. There will be no white middle class left in the CA cities. Naturally, crime will increase, and it will be ugly smash & grabs, car-jackings, house robberies.

    My favorite RHW of Beverly Hills had her home broken into recently: all jewelry, shoes and handbags (millions of dollars worth) stolen. No suspects: stuff was probably sold in Brazil or wherever. The Black Market is alive and well in California. And, once the public has been disarmed, it’s over. I like California but I see it becoming a dystopia first and foremost. The irony is: the liberal elites will be very interested in “special” walls once they don’t feel safe. When there are less jobs for non-elite people (Democrats suck at creating jobs), they are just gonna take it from the wealthy. Cities will have more crime. Hollywood is also eroding…it’s slow, but it is happening.

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    I was just thinking, what with the DNA identification of the Golden State Killer, that California (especially around certain campus areas) had this freak explosion of creeper activity in the seventies, and a major reason for that is all that space making it easy to creep, even with surveillance.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    They could move to a university town.

    You're right about Douthat and Trump though. Anyone who voted for W. really has no place arguing against Trump because he might kill the GOP brand. The brand was dead already.
    , @(((Owen)))

    California will become as dangerous as Mexico City and Brazil.
     
    CA is already more dangerous than Mexico City. Has a long way to go before Brasil, though.
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  55. @Anonymous

    Steve Sailer backed Trump? LMAO.
     
    Yeah, Sailer didn’t support Trump at all during the election. Maybe Sailer was afraid Trump would start fixing those things which are his Sailer’s blogging bread and butter. What does he do then? Work as a stock boy at Auto Zone by day and deliver pizzas at night in his 25-year old Toyota? Might do him some good to have a real schedule and some responsibility. Some people have a vested interest in not having problems fixed. I think Sailer fits in to that category. I know Rush Limbaugh and other mainstream conservatives secretly wanted Hillary. It would’ve been good for business.

    I think it was more Trump was the inverse of his senpai Romney and he offended Sailer’s boomer decorum.

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  56. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Losing GE last year was a big deal. Malloy and the rest of our Democrat state government did nothing to keep them, practically driving them out of town. Sacred Heart University, located nearby, bought the property. General Electric World Headquarters in Fairfield, Connecticut. They bought it cheap and they pay no taxes.

    One wonders how long Connecticut's image as a rich state will hold out.

    There are plans for Bridgeport, "The Slum Without a City," to gentrify its waterfront real estate. To do that, they will have to affirmatively f*ck the rest of us.

    Here’s a link to a good blog post by the Manhattan Contrarian in 2015 on Connecticut’s self-destruction. At the time of the post, GE had not yet moved its headquarters from CT.

    https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2015/12/31/is-connecticut-self-destructing

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  57. @Lagertha
    I actually, see this happening: white people are beginning to realize what is happening to them in their blue state. Most liberals would not be happy living in a Red State since they will always be considered "strangers." It is very hard to move to the South, Mountain States, or middle...Texas, if you are a liberal - you will never be welcome, or a part of the community. And, the wealthier, more educated people will certainly, not include you in their social life. There is a sort of visceral hatred of SJW's but it won't be shown - you just won't be joining their clubs and associations.

    Douthat is such a drag to read...he is so insufferably pompous and seems a bit P---y whipped to me...hmmm?...maybe he just comes across as always unsatisfied.I don't understand his obsession with Trump, don't really understand any men who are so incensed with Trump - I mean, I held my nose with Bush, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama (after 3 years). Most men who don't like Trump need to get over themselves and move-on; be productive & constructive. And, calling people petit-bourgeosie is so silly! - I mean, just don't. It seems people still think condescending to people is ok. Being haughty will shut the gates real quick in Red states; and, you will have no friends.

    California will become as dangerous as Mexico City and Brazil. The irony will be: cops are gonna be incompetent (and bribed) like in Mexico...because the petit-bourgeosie cops have moved to Nevada or Idaho, or North Carolina. There will be no white middle class left in the CA cities. Naturally, crime will increase, and it will be ugly smash & grabs, car-jackings, house robberies.

    My favorite RHW of Beverly Hills had her home broken into recently: all jewelry, shoes and handbags (millions of dollars worth) stolen. No suspects: stuff was probably sold in Brazil or wherever. The Black Market is alive and well in California. And, once the public has been disarmed, it's over. I like California but I see it becoming a dystopia first and foremost. The irony is: the liberal elites will be very interested in "special" walls once they don't feel safe. When there are less jobs for non-elite people (Democrats suck at creating jobs), they are just gonna take it from the wealthy. Cities will have more crime. Hollywood is also eroding...it's slow, but it is happening.

    I was just thinking, what with the DNA identification of the Golden State Killer, that California (especially around certain campus areas) had this freak explosion of creeper activity in the seventies, and a major reason for that is all that space making it easy to creep, even with surveillance.

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  58. @Escher
    CA was a nice place when it looked more like the Traditional America.
    Pockets in Napa or the North coast still have that vibe, but fading I guess.

    California north of Fort Bragg is one of my favorite places in the country. I would never describe it as “Traditional America”, but it certainly is an “America” I can get behind. A Libertarian Hippiedom mash-up that is not long for this World.

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    Another fan of far northern California here. Low crime (as long as you're not inside Pelican Bay), not many busybodies and crybabies, lots of space, great scenery. It hasn't changed all that much in the last 30 years either, at least compared to the rest of the state. Not a lot of employment opportunities, of course.
    , @ThreeCranes
    Yeah, great place. Part of the Pacific Northwest really. Rains a lot like it does up there too. Eureka's weather is like Astoria's. Slosh, slosh....
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  59. @Lagertha
    I actually, see this happening: white people are beginning to realize what is happening to them in their blue state. Most liberals would not be happy living in a Red State since they will always be considered "strangers." It is very hard to move to the South, Mountain States, or middle...Texas, if you are a liberal - you will never be welcome, or a part of the community. And, the wealthier, more educated people will certainly, not include you in their social life. There is a sort of visceral hatred of SJW's but it won't be shown - you just won't be joining their clubs and associations.

    Douthat is such a drag to read...he is so insufferably pompous and seems a bit P---y whipped to me...hmmm?...maybe he just comes across as always unsatisfied.I don't understand his obsession with Trump, don't really understand any men who are so incensed with Trump - I mean, I held my nose with Bush, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama (after 3 years). Most men who don't like Trump need to get over themselves and move-on; be productive & constructive. And, calling people petit-bourgeosie is so silly! - I mean, just don't. It seems people still think condescending to people is ok. Being haughty will shut the gates real quick in Red states; and, you will have no friends.

    California will become as dangerous as Mexico City and Brazil. The irony will be: cops are gonna be incompetent (and bribed) like in Mexico...because the petit-bourgeosie cops have moved to Nevada or Idaho, or North Carolina. There will be no white middle class left in the CA cities. Naturally, crime will increase, and it will be ugly smash & grabs, car-jackings, house robberies.

    My favorite RHW of Beverly Hills had her home broken into recently: all jewelry, shoes and handbags (millions of dollars worth) stolen. No suspects: stuff was probably sold in Brazil or wherever. The Black Market is alive and well in California. And, once the public has been disarmed, it's over. I like California but I see it becoming a dystopia first and foremost. The irony is: the liberal elites will be very interested in "special" walls once they don't feel safe. When there are less jobs for non-elite people (Democrats suck at creating jobs), they are just gonna take it from the wealthy. Cities will have more crime. Hollywood is also eroding...it's slow, but it is happening.

    They could move to a university town.

    You’re right about Douthat and Trump though. Anyone who voted for W. really has no place arguing against Trump because he might kill the GOP brand. The brand was dead already.

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    ALL OF MY "THIS"
    , @Lagertha
    What I find interesting about so-called conservatives who despise Trump: schadenfreude is on them! Many "conservative" journalists made the stupid decision to be indignant about anything Trump to buy them some kind of social Pokemon points - now, duh, virtue-signaling gone bad. They thought they would be relevant, popular and become better paid. They thought people would enjoy reading journalists ripping Trump apart, ridicule his family, wife. Now, it's just tacky and non-constructive. Sad :)

    They are stuck writing pieces halfheartedly, because they're actually, stuck: rent/mortgage/tuition/stuff. They're not like Kanye (can change mind) or Thiel (scary guy for "progressives," because he can afford to obliterate news orgs...or build his own kingdom) because they don't have enough money. And, they are not brave enough to be like Steve, Curtis, many podcasters. There seems to be a level of envy that Douthat and others, left/right, that some people can stick to their views and are not tied to a corporate entity. They can have fun and ride out the Trump waves. They can remain true to themselves.

    But, the true irony is, if Red States turn blue, it's gonna suck for their kids and grandkids just as much. Only the truly wealthy, the .1 percenters can shield themselves from a dystopian world...for a few months.

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  60. ***

    Not many members of the right-wing intelligentsia backed Trump, but the writers and thinkers who did — from mainstream conservatives to the alt-right fringe — were heavily Californian: the Claremont Institute’s West Coast Straussians, Michael “Flight 93 Election” Anton, Mickey Kaus, Victor Davis Hanson, Ron Unz, Steve Sailer, Scott Adams, Curtis “Mencius Moldbug” Yarvin … and of course the one and only Peter Thiel.

    ***

    So, is Mickey Kaus now a “mainstream conservative,” or is he now a member of the “alt-right fringe?”

    According to the well-known Libertarian test, I fall at the point where “Left-liberal,” “Libertarian,” and “moderate” meet (on the left-side corner of the diamond inside of the square, if you are familiar with how one’s results are diagrammed for that test). On the full 50-item test of political orientation at http://www.politicaltest.net, my answers caused its algorithm to label me politically as a “liberal patriot.” Yet, based upon my stance on just immigration, the contemporary Establishment would undoubtedly label me as “right-wing”– and probably some epithet far more colorful– before even considering my views on, say, race per se. To the contemporary Left– whether the Establishment that hides behind the euphemism “liberal” or (more commonly, this century) “progressive,” or the radicals like Antifa– anyone who opposes any familiar tenet of the ruling ideology is “right-wing”– or something worse– just as anyone who openly opposed Communism was once considered a “reactionary”– or something worse– whether he was a John Birch Society member or a mainstream 20th-Century liberal.

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    Isn't Mickey Kaus an immigration skeptic Democrat?
    , @Lagertha
    Progressives (and Never-Trumpers) are full-0n crazy, now, wanting to label people. It upsets them so much that, Trump the great disruptor of America's 2 lame political parties, won and is sticking around. The neurotic labeling of people, whom they may even admire, is a knee-jerk reaction because they believe people shouldn't have a different opinion about Trump...or one that differs from their own!

    They can't pull a Kanye, either, because they don't have the millions to just stick to their own principles/views...move to the beach, or, for the first time, just be honest with themselves.

    Haha, I find more people everyday, who voted for Trump. It is a "coming out," in that it brings a sense of relief for that person. Everyone assumes I am 100% liberal...yet, when they get to know me, I am 100% impossible to be labeled! Being an enigma, politically, frustrates people who prefer conformity and walking in lockstep with their peers. The crap that Kanye is taking now, is quite hilarious....and so pathetic. Amazing that famous people are willing to excoriate him in public - what a bunch of horrible human beings. Kanye slays the Thought Police.

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  61. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clifford Brown
    Semi-OT

    http://www.wnyc.org/story/trump-inc-michael-cohen/

    WNYC, New York City's NPR affiliate, has taken a sudden interest in the illegalities associated with New York's immigrant community. Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, had two degrees of separation associations with some of the shadier elements of New York's Russian emigre community, including insurance fraud, Medicaid fraud, car theft, money laundering and the FBI's aptly named Operation BORIS (Big Organized Russian Insurance Scams). The NPR reporters are shocked, shocked at corruption and fraud on "Lower Broadway, Avenue X in Brighton Beach and under the Elevated Train in Long Island City".

    Who is surprised in the least by any of this? Although there is no evidence that Cohen acted criminally, only that he had certain associations with fraudulent elements.

    New York’s (((Russian emigre community)))

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  62. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Correct

    California is a great place to live but you have to be the best of the best and a hard worker to live there

    Read the Comments and yuh will see over there that everyone there disagrees with you guys

    California is the future it is diverse and ruck

    What is “ruck”?

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  63. @Simonini
    Ross seems smart enough to think this through but I guess he lacks the moral courage. Eventually Republican-leaning voters will run out of places to run, but you can still pump in enough immigrants to swamp them wherever they end up. Replacement doesn't require displacement. And even if somewher like North Dakota remains relatively intact, once enough states have been captured to control the federal government it won't matter.

    Reporting from North Dakota here. Somali is the 2nd language spoken at home in Fargo & Grand Forks. Lots of Butanese refugees are settled in these 2 cities as well. Also Fargo has a significant and growing African population, Sudanese, Liberians, Ghanaians & the always ubiquitous Nigerians. Of course there are as well small populations of Asian Indians who are like elsewhere nearly all middle to upper class – doctors & educators.

    There are local politicians in both Fargo & Grand Forks that I know of, city council members, who dare to openly question the wisdom of settling so many refugees in the Red River Valley & are painted by the local papers as bigoted racists because of it. So, as you say North Dakota is “relatively intact,” but it’s definitely undergoing replacement & displacement.

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    ...as you say North Dakota is “relatively intact,” but it’s definitely undergoing replacement & displacement.
     
    This is why the Left hates Trump so much and was so butthurt by losing the 2016 election. They know that they're one or two elections away from utterly destroying Red State America, banning all our guns, flooding us with Third Worlders, and ruling us for the foreseeable future as an occupied territory -- just like Israel controls the West Bank.
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  64. @Dave Pinsen
    They could move to a university town.

    You're right about Douthat and Trump though. Anyone who voted for W. really has no place arguing against Trump because he might kill the GOP brand. The brand was dead already.

    ALL OF MY “THIS”

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  65. @Svigor

    Don’t give them too many ideas, Ross.
     
    On the other hand, in the big picture it's best for the right if all the right-leaners are driven out of California.

    Sorry, Steve.

    There is no place left to run that the white managerial class isn’t going to f**k up the same they have done to CA. These people are insane and poison to the country.

    I watched these f**kers over the last 40 years ruin CA – it wasn’t the blacks or Mexicans who did. It was the urban, college educated white middle and upper classes who did. The ones who worked for the school system, police, prison guards, etc. All sold their soul and the states future so they could have fat paychecks and pensions at the cost of electing a bunch of Lefty lunatics in Sacramento to just wreck the state. Then they fled like rats leaving a sinking ship to infest other states. Oregon, Washington, Colorado, etc.

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  66. @Anonymous

    Steve Sailer backed Trump? LMAO.
     
    Yeah, Sailer didn’t support Trump at all during the election. Maybe Sailer was afraid Trump would start fixing those things which are his Sailer’s blogging bread and butter. What does he do then? Work as a stock boy at Auto Zone by day and deliver pizzas at night in his 25-year old Toyota? Might do him some good to have a real schedule and some responsibility. Some people have a vested interest in not having problems fixed. I think Sailer fits in to that category. I know Rush Limbaugh and other mainstream conservatives secretly wanted Hillary. It would’ve been good for business.

    Considering what a failure Trump is and how horrendously unpopular he’s become I think Steve was correct in his judgement.

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  67. Anonymous[905] • Disclaimer says:

    This is the essential internal contradiction of Economism.

    The Economist dogma – that is the complete abolition of all and any border controls and the consequent unlimited massive immigration of the third world – is, of course, the Deep State’s policy.
    Of course, the purpose of this policy is to grind down wages to the barest minimum level – consistent with the lowest of third world norms – in the (mistaken) belief that it is good for company profitability and hence for capitalism.

    The irony is, of course, is that the USA – historically the most savage foe of Marxism – will, most likely, prove the theories of Karl Marx to be essentially correct – and most probably fulfil the Marxian prophecy of the Communistic state being established ‘organically’ upon the soil of the proletariat by ‘natural’ progression.

    Third world grunts have the vote. The Economist hasn’t got so extreme (yet) to advocate property qualifications for the franchise. Third world grunts – particularly after seeing the massive (race based) economic inequality surrounding them will vote Democrat in order for wealth to be ‘redistributed’ toward them. In a self-reinforcing feedback cycle, the Democrats will show their true colors and get more and more extreme left, and in turn attract more and more third world votes.

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  68. @Clifford Brown

    But the state’s larger exile population does present a problem for the “make America California” project, because while you can displace Republican-leaning voters from one state, you can’t do the same for the country as a whole.
     
    How clueless can you get? The same demographic shifts that happened to California are happening throughout the country, just at a faster pace! California is only ahead of the curve by 30 years. The problem for the rest of the country is that inland states will not have Silicon Valley or a Hollywood engorged on global monopoly profits to prop up their impoverished populations. The rest of America will be Fresno and Bakersfield, but without the tax base of a Santa Monica and Palo Alto to offset some of the pain.

    Trump is America's Governor Pete Wilson and like Governor Pete Wilson, the judiciary, the media and government bureaucracy will thwart his attempts to slow the radical transformation.

    Texas will be Blue in a decade. The Dems know this, and surely even Douthat know this. Once California and Texas are permanently Democrat, well...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX-YfuVQmX8

    Clifford, I could not agree with you more. California’s state government “income” (tax) comes from a very small slice of a single percent of its population. The local governments derived from what is nearly universally thought to be unsustainable real estate values (a “middle income” home anywhere in the SF bay area, CA, bought today will carry with it a yearly property tax assessment of $20K).

    A partial reason companies locate in California is that the moderate weather typically allows uninterrupted 365 business operation. Localities that force even a 1 or 2 day a year interruption can significantly impact the bottom line: often enough to outweigh the delta of the aggregated California higher cost. A nasty shakeup, especially a series of them, mighty change those calculations?

    From a post to my daughters 6th grade parents chat group (~70% of her classmates parents are East Indian.):

    see last paragraph

    New Delhi: In yet another shocking incident of racial abuse, a woman was attacked at Milpitas in California (United States of America) on Sunday while she was standing on the guest parking spot on the road across her upper-level apartment. The incident, which took place at 1540 hours (local time), left the Indian neighbours in complete shock. As they rushed to save the lady, identified as 33-year-old Sharda KS, they also were assaulted too. According to Samrat Nandi, an IT engineer with Zensar Technologies, a white male, who was naked waist-up, tried to park his car where Sharda was standing. Suddenly, he started hurling racial abuses at the lady.

    Sharda rushed for help while calling out her husband’s name. Hearing her voice, Samrat and his wife Monima (who stay on the lower level) and a family friend Aniruddha Mondal immediately came outside. While Samrat dialled 911, the white male continued to hurl expletives and was “almost about to hit” Sharda and her husband who was trying to protect her. Meanwhile, the man grabbed Aniruddha and punched him in the face, leaving him profusely bleeding. As per Samrat, another “Hispanic-appearance male joined the fight along with the white man.”

    Soon, a white lady too joined the scuffle and started abusing. She held Monima and shouted: “We are white, what are you going to do b***h.” The scuffle was finally sorted when a neighbour (white mixed race male) intervened. The trio left the scene while continuing to hurl racial abuses towards the Indian group.

    While the group was helping Aniruddha as he was bleeding profusely, the white shirtless man came back again, grabbed Monima and slapped her on the face. The man then got into a black Nissan Altima car (Registration number – 8CQW497) parked near Nandi’s rented apartment and fled. The Hispanic man and the white lady rushed inside an apartment in the same community. At around 4:00 pm, the US police recorded the victims’ statements.

    Samrat has alleged that the entire incident was recorded by a white lady whom the group does not know. He claimed that she provided the video to police. However, police officials told the complainants that the video was shaky and did not let them see it when they demanded. Albeit police told them later that they have identified the Hispanic man, who is a resident of the same community where the incident took place, and the lady who assaulted them, yet they refused to divulge their details.

    The Indian group, another victim of hateful harassment since Donald Trump was elected president, has contacted the Consulate General of India in this regard and are awaiting justice.

    http://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/we-are-white-what-are-you-going-to-do-bh-indian-woman-attacked-in-california/221111

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    Lol, so why was Shwarma blocking the guest parking spot in the first place?
    , @Pericles

    A partial reason companies locate in California is that the moderate weather typically allows uninterrupted 365 business operation. Localities that force even a 1 or 2 day a year interruption can significantly impact the bottom line

     

    Is this really the case? Is the cost increase of operating in California just 1/252 (or 1/365)?

    I suppose I shouldn't mention the time I visited Silicon Valley and there was torrential rain and no electricity for two days while staying in my El Camino Real hotel. Bummer, man. It was a while ago though.

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  69. @Hockamaw
    San Francisco really went downhill fast. It was a Shangri La when I left in 09, but the last time I was back in 2017 it had degenerated into a dump. I mean really a dump with garbage and vagrants everywhere. It's become a really cynical town as well which is sad to see. Can't quite put my finger on what went wrong out there but I think Douthat has the right idea.

    > San Francisco really went downhill fast. It was a Shangri La when I left in 09, but the last time I was back in 2017 it had degenerated into a dump… Can’t quite put my finger on what went wrong out there

    Prop 47. Let’s decriminalize smash and grabs. Great idea California. San Francisco, Oakland, and Berkeley really seem to have embraced the spirit of Prop 47 more so than anywhere else.

    Say what you want about New York liberals, but they’re actually much less tolerant of degeneracy when it actually invades their life. New York has plenty of neighborhoods you don’t want to walk into, but if anything akin to the Tenderloin was a few blocks away from Goldman Sachs HQ, as it is with Twitter, De Blasio would be throw in the East River with a new pair of concrete shoes.

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    According to the L.A. Times Prop. 47 had "unintended consequences."

    http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-prop47-anniversary-20151106-story.html
     
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  70. Anon[172] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Yeah, my parents and my brother’s family both moved out, first to Maryland, now in Fort Worth.

    Why did they leave?

    Why did they leave?

    Brother’s company opened an office in D.C. and aging parents followed. Company aquired, brother laid off, employment situation poor, so everyone up and moved to sister-in-law’s hometown of Fort Worth where her aging parents were. Her parents neighborhood is very Hispanic now, so they helped with scouting a new neighborhood, which consisted of staking out schools and gathering demographics on the students there … which you can do online now. But real estate agents are prohibited from even responding to school demographics questions.

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  71. Anon[172] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    A number of years ago during a Boy Scout event, I was surprised to find in my neighborhood a quite large Jewish private elementary school that had so many students that it had 23 Cub Scouts moving up to join the Boy Scouts in one year. This wasn't an Orthodox school, just normal Jews who went to public school when were were kids before busing came to LAUSD in 1978.

    The school is hidden away behind large hedges. The huge increase in Jewish private schools in Los Angeles over the last 40 years is almost never discussed in the mass media.

    Reminds me of this:

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/yes-steve-bannon-asked-why-a-school-had-many-hanukkah-books.html

    The court declaration from the ex-wife outlined three separate anti-Semitic remarks that Bannon allegedly made as she toured some of the most elite private schools in the Los Angeles area for their daughters.

    At one, Westland School, Bannon’s ex-wife said he “asked the director why there were so many Chanukah books in the library.”

    Then after the couple toured Willows Community School, she said he “asked me if it bothered me that the school used to be in a Temple. I said no and asked why he asked … he did not respond.”

    Regarding another academy, The Archer School for Girls, the ex-wife claimed Bannon “went on to say the biggest problem he had with Archer is the number of Jews that attend. He said that he doesn’t like Jews and that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiney brats’ and that he didn’t want the girls going to school with Jews.”
    :
    :
    So from [ex-wife] Piccard’s point of view, then, the Hannukah question was a signal of Bannon’s anti-Semitism, of his desire to not have his daughters in too Jewish a school environment. From the [school] director’s point of view, it was an anodyne question about whether and to what extent the school was truly secular.

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    "The court declaration from the ex-wife outlined three separate anti-Semitic remarks that Bannon allegedly made"

    Exes are bad news for people in the public eye. Even if they aren't themselves vindictive, a charming journalist can get a lot of dirt from an interview.

    The Paper Of Record (Daily Mail) used to find the exes of trades union leaders who were in the news and interview them to get hit pieces. That was in the days when trades unions had power.
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  72. Not many members of the right-wing intelligentsia backed Trump, but the writers and thinkers who did — from mainstream conservatives to the alt-right fringe — were heavily Californian

    The European equivalent of this is the greater Brussels area. People who would, sociologically-speaking be expected to still bide their tongue even in places like Paris or London will openly talk of how bad immigration is and not in a ‘If only they weren’t Muslims’ way.

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  73. @Doug
    > San Francisco really went downhill fast. It was a Shangri La when I left in 09, but the last time I was back in 2017 it had degenerated into a dump... Can’t quite put my finger on what went wrong out there

    Prop 47. Let's decriminalize smash and grabs. Great idea California. San Francisco, Oakland, and Berkeley really seem to have embraced the spirit of Prop 47 more so than anywhere else.

    Say what you want about New York liberals, but they're actually much less tolerant of degeneracy when it actually invades their life. New York has plenty of neighborhoods you don't want to walk into, but if anything akin to the Tenderloin was a few blocks away from Goldman Sachs HQ, as it is with Twitter, De Blasio would be throw in the East River with a new pair of concrete shoes.

    According to the L.A. Times Prop. 47 had “unintended consequences.”

    http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-prop47-anniversary-20151106-story.html

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    Who coulda known right? (shrug)

    Also, child prostitution and spreading HIV is now legal in California. I'm sure it will all turn out alright, what are you, some kinda racist?
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  74. Anonymous[242] • Disclaimer says:

    White Californians had a great state. They proved unworthy of holding it. What’s the confusion?

    Whites in America and much of Europe are proving to be fairly degenerate.

    Heck, in the UK they stand by while their daughters are groomed for abuse. You just don’t come back from the epic level of cuckdom we see in much of the West.

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  75. @Anonymous
    I would add to the that list, and put him at the top, Michael Savage from San Francisco! As Trump said, he wouldn’t have won the election if not for Savage. Savage has a big audience and was a big promoter of Trump and is constantly talking how beautiful California (especially, San Francisco) is and how it’s being destroyed and turned into a third-world cesspool due to liberal politics and illegal immigration. Borders, language, culture.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/24/inside-the-beltway-michael-savage-goes-to-washingt/

    I have listened to Michael Savage for years, and while sometimes he can be a complete screwball, he is the most outrageously funny person on radio with a savage wit and a clear-eyed (tragic) explanation for the “toileting” of CA.

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  76. … and in the annoying way of pundit-travelers let me make some observations …

    At least Douthat didn’t quote his taxi-driver the way Tom Friedman does!

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    I was in Indonesia seeing my best friend, the finance minister of Indonesia, and the taxi driver on the way there told me about how all the taxi drivers were losing their jobs. My response was, Great! Now you'll all be able to find new jobs taking part in the global economy.

    That's the amazing thing about globalization. Wherever you are, your country gets richer. I was in Mexico, visiting my other best friend, a businessman who owns an American newspaper some of you may have heard of, and he was telling me how his country has a great solution to its problems. When people can't find jobs, they just go to America! Then America gets cheap labor, the Mexicans save money on welfare, and everyone wins!

    People say America is losing its innovation. But just now I was with my other best friend, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur. He was standing up, which shows both the dynamism of Silicon Valley people, and also he's a little sore after the vigorous massage session from Mistress Cheeks--again showing how all kinds of new jobs and opportunities are breaking out all over. He showed me his new invention, a new app that lets you crowdsource your friends to find people willing to fix your house, take care of your kids, or trim your hedges at the lowest price! This is the special sauce that makes America great!
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  77. @Anonymous

    Steve Sailer backed Trump? LMAO.
     
    Yeah, Sailer didn’t support Trump at all during the election. Maybe Sailer was afraid Trump would start fixing those things which are his Sailer’s blogging bread and butter. What does he do then? Work as a stock boy at Auto Zone by day and deliver pizzas at night in his 25-year old Toyota? Might do him some good to have a real schedule and some responsibility. Some people have a vested interest in not having problems fixed. I think Sailer fits in to that category. I know Rush Limbaugh and other mainstream conservatives secretly wanted Hillary. It would’ve been good for business.

    You don’t know or listen to Rush much, or you wouldn’t make such an ignorant comment about him and other conservatives secretly wanting Hillary to win (it’s actually a Dem talking point — I used to hear that kind of stuff from my yellow-dog Dem stepfather all the time). Rush got his start in the 1980s when Reagan and Bush Sr. were President, and he has never needed a Dem in the White House to entertain or hold an audience. As he says, liberals are funny when they’re out of power but dangerous when in power. He prefers them when they are funny.

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  78. @Seamus Padraig

    ... and in the annoying way of pundit-travelers let me make some observations ...
     
    At least Douthat didn't quote his taxi-driver the way Tom Friedman does!

    I was in Indonesia seeing my best friend, the finance minister of Indonesia, and the taxi driver on the way there told me about how all the taxi drivers were losing their jobs. My response was, Great! Now you’ll all be able to find new jobs taking part in the global economy.

    That’s the amazing thing about globalization. Wherever you are, your country gets richer. I was in Mexico, visiting my other best friend, a businessman who owns an American newspaper some of you may have heard of, and he was telling me how his country has a great solution to its problems. When people can’t find jobs, they just go to America! Then America gets cheap labor, the Mexicans save money on welfare, and everyone wins!

    People say America is losing its innovation. But just now I was with my other best friend, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur. He was standing up, which shows both the dynamism of Silicon Valley people, and also he’s a little sore after the vigorous massage session from Mistress Cheeks–again showing how all kinds of new jobs and opportunities are breaking out all over. He showed me his new invention, a new app that lets you crowdsource your friends to find people willing to fix your house, take care of your kids, or trim your hedges at the lowest price! This is the special sauce that makes America great!

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    That's a perfect Tom Friedman! Wait a minute--did you cheat and use the online Tom Friedman Op/Ed Generator?

    http://thomasfriedmanopedgenerator.com/about.php
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  79. @Malcolm X-Lax
    God bless Adam Carola, a guy who got rich but grew up poor in North Hollywood and realizes what a bad deal Mexifornia is for working-class native Californians.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGhrb2c817k

    Listen to the end.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy_rOxobTRg

    He’s great and he’s been beating this drum for over a decade. Hawaii once boycotted his loveline show because he called them stupid and asked “what great inventions did the Hawaiins invent?”

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    Obviously, I like Adam but he does have a couple of issues. A) A kind of worship of Wealth/Success; and, not unrelated-ly B) Jews/Israel. For example, the idea that liberal Hollywood jews "hate" israel is absurd, yet he repeats this any time he has on one of his "conservative" jewish pals--e.g. Prager or Shapiro, who are always happy to agree.
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  80. @duncsbaby
    Reporting from North Dakota here. Somali is the 2nd language spoken at home in Fargo & Grand Forks. Lots of Butanese refugees are settled in these 2 cities as well. Also Fargo has a significant and growing African population, Sudanese, Liberians, Ghanaians & the always ubiquitous Nigerians. Of course there are as well small populations of Asian Indians who are like elsewhere nearly all middle to upper class - doctors & educators.

    There are local politicians in both Fargo & Grand Forks that I know of, city council members, who dare to openly question the wisdom of settling so many refugees in the Red River Valley & are painted by the local papers as bigoted racists because of it. So, as you say North Dakota is "relatively intact," but it's definitely undergoing replacement & displacement.

    …as you say North Dakota is “relatively intact,” but it’s definitely undergoing replacement & displacement.

    This is why the Left hates Trump so much and was so butthurt by losing the 2016 election. They know that they’re one or two elections away from utterly destroying Red State America, banning all our guns, flooding us with Third Worlders, and ruling us for the foreseeable future as an occupied territory — just like Israel controls the West Bank.

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  81. @Anon
    Yeah, my parents and my brother's family both moved out, first to Maryland, now in Fort Worth. I last visited Los Angeles about 20 years ago.

    I remember thinking that Los Angeles was fading away from my affections because the Latino and Jewish politicians had no concern for its weird William Mulholland/Raymond Chandler heritage. The Pan Pacific was allowed to burn down; all the Googie architecture was torn down. Famous residential architecture ripped apart and auctioned as art pieces. No preservation like with the older buildings on the east coast. Now however the lack of people like me is what would alienate me the most.

    I looked at the demographics of my home community in Los Angeles the other day at the excellent L.A. Times community data site. Previously all white, although I remember one Asian, now half white, a sixth each for Latino and Black, a tenth for Asian.

    My elementary school is 38 black, 24 Hispanic; junior high 63 black, 26 Hispanic; high school 73 black, 17 Hispanic. We did have some bussing in high school, but not so much, and brighter kids only. I looked at Greatschools.org to try to figure out where the white kids are going to school, but it's mysterious. All the churches run some sort of school. I guess there are charter schools. Greatschools has a hilarious "study" that bemoans the achievement gap. Apparently blacks and Hispanics don't have "access" to challenging academics, like AP courses. I think that works both ways. If you have them and nobody takes or passes them, they get cancelled, at which point you no longer have access to them. AP passage rates can't be fudged like normal grades.

    Big Texas cities like Fort Worth, though run by the GOP and not by CA Latino and Jewish pols, tend to have a similar lack of interest in the preservation of historic buildings, for Western libertarian free-market reasons.

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    " ... lack of interest in the preservation of historic buildings, for Western libertarian free-market reasons."

    Is that an example of the "creative destruction" market fundamentalists praise so highly?
    , @Lagertha
    Fort Worth? you must not know it well. The Downtown (Sundance Square) is beautiful, and well preserved. All the neighborhoods where the Museum, Botanical Gardens, the golf courses, TCU are - many preserved homes/roads with pavers. FW is more appealing than Dallas.
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  82. @Steve Sailer
    A number of years ago during a Boy Scout event, I was surprised to find in my neighborhood a quite large Jewish private elementary school that had so many students that it had 23 Cub Scouts moving up to join the Boy Scouts in one year. This wasn't an Orthodox school, just normal Jews who went to public school when were were kids before busing came to LAUSD in 1978.

    The school is hidden away behind large hedges. The huge increase in Jewish private schools in Los Angeles over the last 40 years is almost never discussed in the mass media.

    I’m quite curious about why some CA school districts, like Los Gatos, Newport Beach, Manhattan Beach, and Calabasas, have stayed mostly white rather than becoming majority Asian. Is it some kind of subtle signaling?

    Economists like to talk about “hard to fake” signals, and homeownership and even more so, school enrollment of one’s children, are very hard to fake. Thus advocates for forced busing etc. should always be put on the spot about where their own kids enroll.

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    I have no idea about Newport or Manhattan Beach, but Los Gatos requires a bit of subtlety.

    First, Los Gatos shares a district with Saratoga, which is the town just north and west of Los Gatos. Both cities have been transformed over the past 25 years from really rural communities into the next uber-expensive enclaves like Los Altos Hills. Not as expensive (they are farther away from jobs, and the commutes into the valley are horrible).

    Second, Los Gatos (and Saratoga to a lesser extent) are, as I said, "rural" communities. Los Gatos has a sort of phony "downtown" like the one at Disneyland, but a lot of its residents literally live in mountain cabins (albeit expensive ones more akin to "glamping" than "camping.")

    First generation Asian immigrants do not like living in the woods. But even then, Los Gatos High School is about 10% Asian, and another 9% "two or more, " of which a majority have a white and Asian parent I suspect.

    But Saratoga, which is closer to the "cities" of the peninsula, and borders Cupertino, is a different story. It is about 3/5 Asian.

    I suspect that Los Gatos ultimately will go the same way. Two of the "in town" elementary schools are about 20% Asian.
    , @Excal
    A few possible reasons.

    East Asians tend to go where there are other East Asians, so some regions turn the corner and become Chinatowns: Alhambra, for instance.

    But Alhambra was mostly a lower-to-middle-class suburb before the Chinese showed up, and it's still not terribly upscale. Those other places are wealthy and expensive. East Asians like bargains, and they aren't going to find many in Manhattan Beach at the moment.

    Calabasas is a somewhat special case -- very tiny, very mountainous, and mostly either national forest or large estates owned by the hyper-rich. Not many East Asians to start (a few South Asians though), and not much room for them.
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  83. @Anon
    Yeah, my parents and my brother's family both moved out, first to Maryland, now in Fort Worth. I last visited Los Angeles about 20 years ago.

    I remember thinking that Los Angeles was fading away from my affections because the Latino and Jewish politicians had no concern for its weird William Mulholland/Raymond Chandler heritage. The Pan Pacific was allowed to burn down; all the Googie architecture was torn down. Famous residential architecture ripped apart and auctioned as art pieces. No preservation like with the older buildings on the east coast. Now however the lack of people like me is what would alienate me the most.

    I looked at the demographics of my home community in Los Angeles the other day at the excellent L.A. Times community data site. Previously all white, although I remember one Asian, now half white, a sixth each for Latino and Black, a tenth for Asian.

    My elementary school is 38 black, 24 Hispanic; junior high 63 black, 26 Hispanic; high school 73 black, 17 Hispanic. We did have some bussing in high school, but not so much, and brighter kids only. I looked at Greatschools.org to try to figure out where the white kids are going to school, but it's mysterious. All the churches run some sort of school. I guess there are charter schools. Greatschools has a hilarious "study" that bemoans the achievement gap. Apparently blacks and Hispanics don't have "access" to challenging academics, like AP courses. I think that works both ways. If you have them and nobody takes or passes them, they get cancelled, at which point you no longer have access to them. AP passage rates can't be fudged like normal grades.

    AP passage rates can’t be fudged like normal grades.

    Hold my artisanal THC-infused quinoa and watch this.

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  84. @D. K.
    ***

    Not many members of the right-wing intelligentsia backed Trump, but the writers and thinkers who did — from mainstream conservatives to the alt-right fringe — were heavily Californian: the Claremont Institute’s West Coast Straussians, Michael “Flight 93 Election” Anton, Mickey Kaus, Victor Davis Hanson, Ron Unz, Steve Sailer, Scott Adams, Curtis “Mencius Moldbug” Yarvin … and of course the one and only Peter Thiel.

    ***

    So, is Mickey Kaus now a "mainstream conservative," or is he now a member of the "alt-right fringe?"

    According to the well-known Libertarian test, I fall at the point where "Left-liberal," "Libertarian," and "moderate" meet (on the left-side corner of the diamond inside of the square, if you are familiar with how one's results are diagrammed for that test). On the full 50-item test of political orientation at www.politicaltest.net, my answers caused its algorithm to label me politically as a "liberal patriot." Yet, based upon my stance on just immigration, the contemporary Establishment would undoubtedly label me as "right-wing"-- and probably some epithet far more colorful-- before even considering my views on, say, race per se. To the contemporary Left-- whether the Establishment that hides behind the euphemism "liberal" or (more commonly, this century) "progressive," or the radicals like Antifa-- anyone who opposes any familiar tenet of the ruling ideology is "right-wing"-- or something worse-- just as anyone who openly opposed Communism was once considered a "reactionary"-- or something worse-- whether he was a John Birch Society member or a mainstream 20th-Century liberal.

    Isn’t Mickey Kaus an immigration skeptic Democrat?

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    As far as I know, from reading many of his tweets, over the past few years, I think that that is a label that he would readily accept. From what I can tell, his only problem with mass immigration, on its current trajectory, is simply its exacerbating impact on income inequality.
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  85. @danand
    Clifford, I could not agree with you more. California's state government "income" (tax) comes from a very small slice of a single percent of its population. The local governments derived from what is nearly universally thought to be unsustainable real estate values (a "middle income" home anywhere in the SF bay area, CA, bought today will carry with it a yearly property tax assessment of $20K).

    A partial reason companies locate in California is that the moderate weather typically allows uninterrupted 365 business operation. Localities that force even a 1 or 2 day a year interruption can significantly impact the bottom line: often enough to outweigh the delta of the aggregated California higher cost. A nasty shakeup, especially a series of them, mighty change those calculations?

    From a post to my daughters 6th grade parents chat group (~70% of her classmates parents are East Indian.):

    see last paragraph

    New Delhi: In yet another shocking incident of racial abuse, a woman was attacked at Milpitas in California (United States of America) on Sunday while she was standing on the guest parking spot on the road across her upper-level apartment. The incident, which took place at 1540 hours (local time), left the Indian neighbours in complete shock. As they rushed to save the lady, identified as 33-year-old Sharda KS, they also were assaulted too. According to Samrat Nandi, an IT engineer with Zensar Technologies, a white male, who was naked waist-up, tried to park his car where Sharda was standing. Suddenly, he started hurling racial abuses at the lady.

    Sharda rushed for help while calling out her husband’s name. Hearing her voice, Samrat and his wife Monima (who stay on the lower level) and a family friend Aniruddha Mondal immediately came outside. While Samrat dialled 911, the white male continued to hurl expletives and was “almost about to hit” Sharda and her husband who was trying to protect her. Meanwhile, the man grabbed Aniruddha and punched him in the face, leaving him profusely bleeding. As per Samrat, another “Hispanic-appearance male joined the fight along with the white man.”

    Soon, a white lady too joined the scuffle and started abusing. She held Monima and shouted: “We are white, what are you going to do b***h.” The scuffle was finally sorted when a neighbour (white mixed race male) intervened. The trio left the scene while continuing to hurl racial abuses towards the Indian group.

    While the group was helping Aniruddha as he was bleeding profusely, the white shirtless man came back again, grabbed Monima and slapped her on the face. The man then got into a black Nissan Altima car (Registration number - 8CQW497) parked near Nandi’s rented apartment and fled. The Hispanic man and the white lady rushed inside an apartment in the same community. At around 4:00 pm, the US police recorded the victims’ statements.

    Samrat has alleged that the entire incident was recorded by a white lady whom the group does not know. He claimed that she provided the video to police. However, police officials told the complainants that the video was shaky and did not let them see it when they demanded. Albeit police told them later that they have identified the Hispanic man, who is a resident of the same community where the incident took place, and the lady who assaulted them, yet they refused to divulge their details.

    The Indian group, another victim of hateful harassment since Donald Trump was elected president, has contacted the Consulate General of India in this regard and are awaiting justice.
     
    http://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/we-are-white-what-are-you-going-to-do-bh-indian-woman-attacked-in-california/221111

    Lol, so why was Shwarma blocking the guest parking spot in the first place?

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    If it is like some YouTube videos I have seen recently, she was standing in the parking spot and "reserving" it for her relatives who were going to arrive later.

    Chinese do the same thing.

    First-come, first-served is not a part of their culture.

    They'll send their females out to the parking garage to find a parking spot.
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  86. @danand
    Clifford, I could not agree with you more. California's state government "income" (tax) comes from a very small slice of a single percent of its population. The local governments derived from what is nearly universally thought to be unsustainable real estate values (a "middle income" home anywhere in the SF bay area, CA, bought today will carry with it a yearly property tax assessment of $20K).

    A partial reason companies locate in California is that the moderate weather typically allows uninterrupted 365 business operation. Localities that force even a 1 or 2 day a year interruption can significantly impact the bottom line: often enough to outweigh the delta of the aggregated California higher cost. A nasty shakeup, especially a series of them, mighty change those calculations?

    From a post to my daughters 6th grade parents chat group (~70% of her classmates parents are East Indian.):

    see last paragraph

    New Delhi: In yet another shocking incident of racial abuse, a woman was attacked at Milpitas in California (United States of America) on Sunday while she was standing on the guest parking spot on the road across her upper-level apartment. The incident, which took place at 1540 hours (local time), left the Indian neighbours in complete shock. As they rushed to save the lady, identified as 33-year-old Sharda KS, they also were assaulted too. According to Samrat Nandi, an IT engineer with Zensar Technologies, a white male, who was naked waist-up, tried to park his car where Sharda was standing. Suddenly, he started hurling racial abuses at the lady.

    Sharda rushed for help while calling out her husband’s name. Hearing her voice, Samrat and his wife Monima (who stay on the lower level) and a family friend Aniruddha Mondal immediately came outside. While Samrat dialled 911, the white male continued to hurl expletives and was “almost about to hit” Sharda and her husband who was trying to protect her. Meanwhile, the man grabbed Aniruddha and punched him in the face, leaving him profusely bleeding. As per Samrat, another “Hispanic-appearance male joined the fight along with the white man.”

    Soon, a white lady too joined the scuffle and started abusing. She held Monima and shouted: “We are white, what are you going to do b***h.” The scuffle was finally sorted when a neighbour (white mixed race male) intervened. The trio left the scene while continuing to hurl racial abuses towards the Indian group.

    While the group was helping Aniruddha as he was bleeding profusely, the white shirtless man came back again, grabbed Monima and slapped her on the face. The man then got into a black Nissan Altima car (Registration number - 8CQW497) parked near Nandi’s rented apartment and fled. The Hispanic man and the white lady rushed inside an apartment in the same community. At around 4:00 pm, the US police recorded the victims’ statements.

    Samrat has alleged that the entire incident was recorded by a white lady whom the group does not know. He claimed that she provided the video to police. However, police officials told the complainants that the video was shaky and did not let them see it when they demanded. Albeit police told them later that they have identified the Hispanic man, who is a resident of the same community where the incident took place, and the lady who assaulted them, yet they refused to divulge their details.

    The Indian group, another victim of hateful harassment since Donald Trump was elected president, has contacted the Consulate General of India in this regard and are awaiting justice.
     
    http://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/we-are-white-what-are-you-going-to-do-bh-indian-woman-attacked-in-california/221111

    A partial reason companies locate in California is that the moderate weather typically allows uninterrupted 365 business operation. Localities that force even a 1 or 2 day a year interruption can significantly impact the bottom line

    Is this really the case? Is the cost increase of operating in California just 1/252 (or 1/365)?

    I suppose I shouldn’t mention the time I visited Silicon Valley and there was torrential rain and no electricity for two days while staying in my El Camino Real hotel. Bummer, man. It was a while ago though.

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  87. @duncsbaby
    According to the L.A. Times Prop. 47 had "unintended consequences."

    http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-prop47-anniversary-20151106-story.html
     

    Who coulda known right? (shrug)

    Also, child prostitution and spreading HIV is now legal in California. I’m sure it will all turn out alright, what are you, some kinda racist?

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  88. @Anonymous
    I would add to the that list, and put him at the top, Michael Savage from San Francisco! As Trump said, he wouldn’t have won the election if not for Savage. Savage has a big audience and was a big promoter of Trump and is constantly talking how beautiful California (especially, San Francisco) is and how it’s being destroyed and turned into a third-world cesspool due to liberal politics and illegal immigration. Borders, language, culture.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/24/inside-the-beltway-michael-savage-goes-to-washingt/

    Agree completely.

    Savage is a nut, but he often mixes in some real insights and always mixes in plenty of laughs.

    I have been listening to him, on and off, for more than 20 years, since his afternoon show on the local station here (KSFO).

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  89. @J.Ross
    OT Robert Mueller Unmasked by Congressman Louis Gohmert
    https://www.scribd.com/document/377409983/Gohmert-Mueller-UNMASKED
    Republicans have started to fight back, they talk about Mueller's ABLE DANGER screwups. As in, Gohmert blames Mueller for not allowing interagency informational flow that was critically related to the September Eleventh terrorists. This is a big deal. I hope Gohmert doesn't have any baseball practice in his future.

    Didn’t the last guy (Weldon) who made a big fuss about Able Danger find himself suddenly under FBI investigation which cost him re-election although no charges were brought?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger#Able_Danger_and_the_9/11_Commission

    followed by

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curt_Weldon#2006_Investigation

    Anon 9.08 – “Heck, in the UK they stand by while their daughters are groomed for abuse”

    Fathers who went to the police were threatened with arrest for various racist crimes.

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    Very nice point. We are at a point where investigation is vindication and investigating is guilt. The Establishment is rapidly de-legitimizing itself. Good news for Trumpists, bad news for main line neocon open borders Republicans, possibly eventual bad news for Democrats unless they can import enough of their new constitutency in time. Watch for the breaking of the legitimacy crisis.
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  90. @benjaminl
    Big Texas cities like Fort Worth, though run by the GOP and not by CA Latino and Jewish pols, tend to have a similar lack of interest in the preservation of historic buildings, for Western libertarian free-market reasons.

    ” … lack of interest in the preservation of historic buildings, for Western libertarian free-market reasons.”

    Is that an example of the “creative destruction” market fundamentalists praise so highly?

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  91. @benjaminl
    I'm quite curious about why some CA school districts, like Los Gatos, Newport Beach, Manhattan Beach, and Calabasas, have stayed mostly white rather than becoming majority Asian. Is it some kind of subtle signaling?

    Economists like to talk about "hard to fake" signals, and homeownership and even more so, school enrollment of one's children, are very hard to fake. Thus advocates for forced busing etc. should always be put on the spot about where their own kids enroll.

    I have no idea about Newport or Manhattan Beach, but Los Gatos requires a bit of subtlety.

    First, Los Gatos shares a district with Saratoga, which is the town just north and west of Los Gatos. Both cities have been transformed over the past 25 years from really rural communities into the next uber-expensive enclaves like Los Altos Hills. Not as expensive (they are farther away from jobs, and the commutes into the valley are horrible).

    Second, Los Gatos (and Saratoga to a lesser extent) are, as I said, “rural” communities. Los Gatos has a sort of phony “downtown” like the one at Disneyland, but a lot of its residents literally live in mountain cabins (albeit expensive ones more akin to “glamping” than “camping.”)

    First generation Asian immigrants do not like living in the woods. But even then, Los Gatos High School is about 10% Asian, and another 9% “two or more, ” of which a majority have a white and Asian parent I suspect.

    But Saratoga, which is closer to the “cities” of the peninsula, and borders Cupertino, is a different story. It is about 3/5 Asian.

    I suspect that Los Gatos ultimately will go the same way. Two of the “in town” elementary schools are about 20% Asian.

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    I lived in Los Gatos as a teenager.
    The downtown was a delightful real place back then, with local shops, a few really good used book stores, one corner gas station, a first rate public library, and an architecturally impressive and by no means bad public high school. The Jesuits had their theologate in the hills, which added tone to the local Catholic community.
    I last strolled through the place some five or six years ago, and was disgusted by how fake it all was. No sense of a genuine community, with roots stretching back decades. Just the tell-tale signs of the nouveau riche showing off. (The theologate, by the way, is where the old Jesuits go to die nowadays; there are no new seminarians to educate).
    I didn't think of Disneyland though, but of Ocean Avenue in Carmel, where the same sad process has taken place (and indeed had begun a decade or two earlier).
    Saratoga had no downtown; it was just an extension of Los Gatos as far as I could ever see. So if the latter is now 3/5 Asian, then Los Gatos, indeed, cannot be far behind.
    , @Benjaminl
    Aha, thanks for the details. I remember this 2005 story by Suein Hwang describing the process in Cupertino:

    https://t.co/pChVb8mO0M

    Many white parents say they're leaving because the schools are too academically driven and too narrowly invested in subjects such as math and science at the expense of liberal arts and extracurriculars like sports and other personal interests.... When Matthew, now a student at Notre Dame, finished middle school eight years ago, Ms. Doherty decided to send him to Bellarmine College Preparatory, a Jesuit school that she says has a culture that "values the whole child."... "Kids at Bellarmine have a lot of pressure to do well, too, but they want to learn and do something they want to do." ... At Cupertino's top schools, administrators, parents and students say white students end up in the stereotyped role often applied to other minority groups: the underachievers. ... Some white parents, and even some students, say they suspect teachers don't take white kids as seriously as Asians.... "Kids who are white feel themselves a distinct minority against a majority culture."
     
    Just out of curiosity, I went to Schooldigger and looked up the year each high school became minority-white and majority-Asian, respectively:

    Monta Vista: 1994/1997
    Lynbrook: 1995/1998
    Cupertino: 2000/2006
    Saratoga: 2002/2008
    Homestead: 2007/ na


    Los Gatos is at 68% white, which number each of the preceding schools reached in 1989, 1990, 1988, 1994 and 1989, respectively. So, at that rate, it will probably be be another 10 years at most for Los Gatos to "flip."
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  92. I am delighted to add Ross Douthat to my list of at least semi- Santa Monicans, even if of the South of Montana variety.
    But Mr. Douthat, whom I have been following with interest since he was an undergraduate at Harvard, rather plays down his own family’s class rank. Maybe they hadn’t much money (and their Santa Monica addresses tend to confirm this) but they were uniformly well-educated, particularly for the time. His great-grandfather, the same’s wife (whose father was a doctor), and their son were all college educated. The great grandparents were from Arkansas (but their parents were from Virginia and North Carolina respectively), so perhaps their college education was less than stellar, but his grandfather graduated from UCLA and his father from Stanford. In short a literate family of middling to high achievers. Very typical, in fact, of that California the loss of which we, particularly we natives, so profoundly lament.

    And you grousers – we all know what he is talking about, so why complain that he uses subtlety to get his points across? Not everybody is required to use a bullhorn.

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  93. @Anon
    Reminds me of this:

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/yes-steve-bannon-asked-why-a-school-had-many-hanukkah-books.html

    The court declaration from the ex-wife outlined three separate anti-Semitic remarks that Bannon allegedly made as she toured some of the most elite private schools in the Los Angeles area for their daughters.

    At one, Westland School, Bannon’s ex-wife said he “asked the director why there were so many Chanukah books in the library.”

    Then after the couple toured Willows Community School, she said he “asked me if it bothered me that the school used to be in a Temple. I said no and asked why he asked … he did not respond.”

    Regarding another academy, The Archer School for Girls, the ex-wife claimed Bannon “went on to say the biggest problem he had with Archer is the number of Jews that attend. He said that he doesn’t like Jews and that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiney brats’ and that he didn’t want the girls going to school with Jews.”
    :
    :
    So from [ex-wife] Piccard’s point of view, then, the Hannukah question was a signal of Bannon’s anti-Semitism, of his desire to not have his daughters in too Jewish a school environment. From the [school] director’s point of view, it was an anodyne question about whether and to what extent the school was truly secular.
     

    “The court declaration from the ex-wife outlined three separate anti-Semitic remarks that Bannon allegedly made”

    Exes are bad news for people in the public eye. Even if they aren’t themselves vindictive, a charming journalist can get a lot of dirt from an interview.

    The Paper Of Record (Daily Mail) used to find the exes of trades union leaders who were in the news and interview them to get hit pieces. That was in the days when trades unions had power.

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  94. CJ says:
    @Clifford Brown
    California north of Fort Bragg is one of my favorite places in the country. I would never describe it as "Traditional America", but it certainly is an "America" I can get behind. A Libertarian Hippiedom mash-up that is not long for this World.

    Another fan of far northern California here. Low crime (as long as you’re not inside Pelican Bay), not many busybodies and crybabies, lots of space, great scenery. It hasn’t changed all that much in the last 30 years either, at least compared to the rest of the state. Not a lot of employment opportunities, of course.

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    Jefferson statehood now! Arise and throw off the Sacramento/coastal yoke!
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  95. @Tiny Duck
    Correct

    California is a great place to live but you have to be the best of the best and a hard worker to live there

    Read the Comments and yuh will see over there that everyone there disagrees with you guys

    California is the future it is diverse and ruck

    “California is the future it is diverse and ruck”

    Well, that’s almost a sentence.

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  96. @Tiny Duck
    Correct

    California is a great place to live but you have to be the best of the best and a hard worker to live there

    Read the Comments and yuh will see over there that everyone there disagrees with you guys

    California is the future it is diverse and ruck

    Do you even live in California? I doubt it. Thou shouldn’t make proclamations about things you know nothing about.

    California is a third-world cesspool.

    More than half of Los Angeles is functionally illiterate, meaning the mexicans/central americans can’t read an electric bill or a bus route map.

    The dystopian future of California you speak of is illiteracy, obesity, heart disease and diabetes.

    My family members are economic refugees, who found sanctuary in Utah.

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  97. @Buzz Mohawk

    ... we* must all hang together or we shall hang separately.

    *... basically anyone who is a class enemy of the vibrant proletariat and its thought leaders.
     
    There may be an increasing number of actual American members of "the vibrant proletariat" who are freeing their minds from the "thought leaders." They should be encouraged to hang with us.

    Is it just me, or don't Marxist constructions like "vibrant proletariat" seem really annoying and dangerous threats to our own thoughts here in Rightland? The same question came to mind when my wheels crashed over Douthat's "native-born petit-bourgeoisie" in his article. It's like hitting an unmarked, four-inch-high edge of new pavement.

    It might be better not to allow leftthink to continue making us see ourselves as separate.

    http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/82/13582-004-473F0468.jpg

    Hey! Don’t be bagging on my nom du guerre!

    Lenin wrote while in exile in Switzerland that the greatest threat to the success of the proletariat revolution was the petit bourgeoisie! That’s why it has been my handle since 2001, the first year I started reading Sailer on VDARE from the open-air asylum of UC Berkeley as a Marxist scholar.

    The problem is that when people hear you say “Marxist scholar,” they automatically assume you support such intellectual graft, without reading any of your critical white paper. Douthat is right when he states that the “little capitalists” are leaving California in droves, and have been for decades, as a result of the reconquista.

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    Another Berkeley man! Welcome to the club.
    I, although proudly, indeed insufferably haut bourgeois, have an unfeigned affection for the petit bourgeoisie, and for precisely the reason you highlight.
    It is the naturally fascist class, which, if one troubles to take a look at post WWI history, means no more than that it successfully fought Communism to a standstill wherever it came to power.
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  98. @gunner29

    Don’t forget Me, Tucker Carlson and most of the guys I grew up with in a working-class suburb of San Francisco, most of whom can no longer afford to live in the town we grew up in
     
    Which working class suburb was this????

    I just looked up Tucker, he was born in SF, raised in La Jolla,(probably top 50 in wealth for the US) went to high school at a big bucks school in Rhode Island. Daddy was the head of Voice of America and president of PBS. Stepmom was an heir to the Swanson frozen food empire.

    The only time he was in a working class suburb was when the freeway passed thru it! He's the definition of being born with a silver spoon in his mouth!

    And the reason you can't afford a house in Kali is the gobt puts about $200K+ in fees and permits to break ground on a house. And the planning dept requires 20% of the land to be open space, another 20% for underclass, feral minorities, another 20% because it's an Indian burial ground or the Indians walked thru there a couple of thousand years ago,and it's sacred.

    I know peeps that found out the acreage they bought had some kind of endangered plant or animal on it and eliminated them; because they were aware they couldn't use the land if some shithead from the gobt found out.

    Didn’t mean to imply Tucker grew up with me, in the same town, or any formerly working-class town.

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  99. @CJ
    Another fan of far northern California here. Low crime (as long as you're not inside Pelican Bay), not many busybodies and crybabies, lots of space, great scenery. It hasn't changed all that much in the last 30 years either, at least compared to the rest of the state. Not a lot of employment opportunities, of course.

    Jefferson statehood now! Arise and throw off the Sacramento/coastal yoke!

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GqGNmcjWDY
    , @RadicalCenter
    Hell yes. California and Texas need to be split into five States each. Republicans should do it in Texas while they still have power there, because that will be changing.

    And the people of eastern Washington and eastern Oregon should get their own States and escape the looms on the coast.

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  100. @petit bourgeois
    Hey! Don't be bagging on my nom du guerre!

    Lenin wrote while in exile in Switzerland that the greatest threat to the success of the proletariat revolution was the petit bourgeoisie! That's why it has been my handle since 2001, the first year I started reading Sailer on VDARE from the open-air asylum of UC Berkeley as a Marxist scholar.

    The problem is that when people hear you say "Marxist scholar," they automatically assume you support such intellectual graft, without reading any of your critical white paper. Douthat is right when he states that the "little capitalists" are leaving California in droves, and have been for decades, as a result of the reconquista.

    Another Berkeley man! Welcome to the club.
    I, although proudly, indeed insufferably haut bourgeois, have an unfeigned affection for the petit bourgeoisie, and for precisely the reason you highlight.
    It is the naturally fascist class, which, if one troubles to take a look at post WWI history, means no more than that it successfully fought Communism to a standstill wherever it came to power.

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    Thank you. I am also a Fascist scholar, with a capital "F," as in Mussolini's philosopher, Giovanni Gentile. While it not helpful to place such ideologies on a left-right continuum, Fascism with a capital "F" (e.g. corporatism and masculine protest and a few other elements, like irredentism) is very distinct from the permanent "class struggle" and "dialectic" of Marx and Engels. The only similarities one can ascertain is that they are both neo-Hegelian in nature.

    Which brings you to post-WWI Harlem in the 1920's with the Garveyism movement (Universal Negro Improvement Association), with all of that Pan-Africanism emanating from Jamaica's favorite son, Marcus Garvey, and the attendant quasi-military parades with military uniforms, shoulder-boards with tassels, meaningless medals and fancy hats with plumage marching down the street of Harlem. I think Mussolini stole it from Garvey.

    But I digress. The whole reconquista and direct offensive by Mexico upon the southwest U.S. comprising California and other territories ceded by Mexico pursuant to the Treaty of Guadalupe de Hildalgo has been going on for decades and is more akin to a form of Nationalism-Socialism of the mestizo variety. Why can't Trump have the cojones launch and a counter-offensive like the Punitive Expedition?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancho_Villa_Expedition
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  101. Douthat just put Unz and Sailer’s name in the NYT. Some segment of the population is going to be curious and google them.

    If you are correct on an issue, if you produce quality stuff, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

    I don’t think Douthat is controlled opposition. I think he is a mole. I think he knows what he is doing. He plays the hand that he was dealt.

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    So Douthat is not duping his readership, he is duping his employers. I hope you're right. Still, I think he could be more interesting. I am curious then to what extent his op-eds have been censored.
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  102. @dwb
    I have no idea about Newport or Manhattan Beach, but Los Gatos requires a bit of subtlety.

    First, Los Gatos shares a district with Saratoga, which is the town just north and west of Los Gatos. Both cities have been transformed over the past 25 years from really rural communities into the next uber-expensive enclaves like Los Altos Hills. Not as expensive (they are farther away from jobs, and the commutes into the valley are horrible).

    Second, Los Gatos (and Saratoga to a lesser extent) are, as I said, "rural" communities. Los Gatos has a sort of phony "downtown" like the one at Disneyland, but a lot of its residents literally live in mountain cabins (albeit expensive ones more akin to "glamping" than "camping.")

    First generation Asian immigrants do not like living in the woods. But even then, Los Gatos High School is about 10% Asian, and another 9% "two or more, " of which a majority have a white and Asian parent I suspect.

    But Saratoga, which is closer to the "cities" of the peninsula, and borders Cupertino, is a different story. It is about 3/5 Asian.

    I suspect that Los Gatos ultimately will go the same way. Two of the "in town" elementary schools are about 20% Asian.

    I lived in Los Gatos as a teenager.
    The downtown was a delightful real place back then, with local shops, a few really good used book stores, one corner gas station, a first rate public library, and an architecturally impressive and by no means bad public high school. The Jesuits had their theologate in the hills, which added tone to the local Catholic community.
    I last strolled through the place some five or six years ago, and was disgusted by how fake it all was. No sense of a genuine community, with roots stretching back decades. Just the tell-tale signs of the nouveau riche showing off. (The theologate, by the way, is where the old Jesuits go to die nowadays; there are no new seminarians to educate).
    I didn’t think of Disneyland though, but of Ocean Avenue in Carmel, where the same sad process has taken place (and indeed had begun a decade or two earlier).
    Saratoga had no downtown; it was just an extension of Los Gatos as far as I could ever see. So if the latter is now 3/5 Asian, then Los Gatos, indeed, cannot be far behind.

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    I moved to the SF Bay area in 1992. As a kid, I lived in Southern California (Garden Grove) in an area that is now predominantly Latino, with a healthy chunk of southeast Asians (Vietnamese, mostly) mixed in. At the time, there was one immigrant family - Cuban emigres whom our parents used to refer to as "Lucy and Ricky." At the time, I confess, I did not get it.

    1970s Orange County.

    My rep back in the day was B-1 Bob Dornan.

    I remember Los Gatos 25 years ago as pretty rustic mostly, but with expensive, Victorian and Crafstman homes around the immediate central city. The main drag (University Ave and Santa Cruz Ave, laid out like like a ladder with rungs between them) was decidedly upscale, but still somewhat non-formula. And there was the Old Town (sic) shopping center. This was before the arrival of Sur la Table and Anthropologie.

    We got married by a priest who "went to die" in the Jesuit home above Los Gatos.

    It has been transformed from the town where "The Cats" restaurant ruled to what it is now.
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  103. @dwb
    I have no idea about Newport or Manhattan Beach, but Los Gatos requires a bit of subtlety.

    First, Los Gatos shares a district with Saratoga, which is the town just north and west of Los Gatos. Both cities have been transformed over the past 25 years from really rural communities into the next uber-expensive enclaves like Los Altos Hills. Not as expensive (they are farther away from jobs, and the commutes into the valley are horrible).

    Second, Los Gatos (and Saratoga to a lesser extent) are, as I said, "rural" communities. Los Gatos has a sort of phony "downtown" like the one at Disneyland, but a lot of its residents literally live in mountain cabins (albeit expensive ones more akin to "glamping" than "camping.")

    First generation Asian immigrants do not like living in the woods. But even then, Los Gatos High School is about 10% Asian, and another 9% "two or more, " of which a majority have a white and Asian parent I suspect.

    But Saratoga, which is closer to the "cities" of the peninsula, and borders Cupertino, is a different story. It is about 3/5 Asian.

    I suspect that Los Gatos ultimately will go the same way. Two of the "in town" elementary schools are about 20% Asian.

    Aha, thanks for the details. I remember this 2005 story by Suein Hwang describing the process in Cupertino:

    https://t.co/pChVb8mO0M

    Many white parents say they’re leaving because the schools are too academically driven and too narrowly invested in subjects such as math and science at the expense of liberal arts and extracurriculars like sports and other personal interests…. When Matthew, now a student at Notre Dame, finished middle school eight years ago, Ms. Doherty decided to send him to Bellarmine College Preparatory, a Jesuit school that she says has a culture that “values the whole child.”… “Kids at Bellarmine have a lot of pressure to do well, too, but they want to learn and do something they want to do.” … At Cupertino’s top schools, administrators, parents and students say white students end up in the stereotyped role often applied to other minority groups: the underachievers. … Some white parents, and even some students, say they suspect teachers don’t take white kids as seriously as Asians…. “Kids who are white feel themselves a distinct minority against a majority culture.”

    Just out of curiosity, I went to Schooldigger and looked up the year each high school became minority-white and majority-Asian, respectively:

    Monta Vista: 1994/1997
    Lynbrook: 1995/1998
    Cupertino: 2000/2006
    Saratoga: 2002/2008
    Homestead: 2007/ na

    Los Gatos is at 68% white, which number each of the preceding schools reached in 1989, 1990, 1988, 1994 and 1989, respectively. So, at that rate, it will probably be be another 10 years at most for Los Gatos to “flip.”

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  104. @D. K.
    ***

    Not many members of the right-wing intelligentsia backed Trump, but the writers and thinkers who did — from mainstream conservatives to the alt-right fringe — were heavily Californian: the Claremont Institute’s West Coast Straussians, Michael “Flight 93 Election” Anton, Mickey Kaus, Victor Davis Hanson, Ron Unz, Steve Sailer, Scott Adams, Curtis “Mencius Moldbug” Yarvin … and of course the one and only Peter Thiel.

    ***

    So, is Mickey Kaus now a "mainstream conservative," or is he now a member of the "alt-right fringe?"

    According to the well-known Libertarian test, I fall at the point where "Left-liberal," "Libertarian," and "moderate" meet (on the left-side corner of the diamond inside of the square, if you are familiar with how one's results are diagrammed for that test). On the full 50-item test of political orientation at www.politicaltest.net, my answers caused its algorithm to label me politically as a "liberal patriot." Yet, based upon my stance on just immigration, the contemporary Establishment would undoubtedly label me as "right-wing"-- and probably some epithet far more colorful-- before even considering my views on, say, race per se. To the contemporary Left-- whether the Establishment that hides behind the euphemism "liberal" or (more commonly, this century) "progressive," or the radicals like Antifa-- anyone who opposes any familiar tenet of the ruling ideology is "right-wing"-- or something worse-- just as anyone who openly opposed Communism was once considered a "reactionary"-- or something worse-- whether he was a John Birch Society member or a mainstream 20th-Century liberal.

    Progressives (and Never-Trumpers) are full-0n crazy, now, wanting to label people. It upsets them so much that, Trump the great disruptor of America’s 2 lame political parties, won and is sticking around. The neurotic labeling of people, whom they may even admire, is a knee-jerk reaction because they believe people shouldn’t have a different opinion about Trump…or one that differs from their own!

    They can’t pull a Kanye, either, because they don’t have the millions to just stick to their own principles/views…move to the beach, or, for the first time, just be honest with themselves.

    Haha, I find more people everyday, who voted for Trump. It is a “coming out,” in that it brings a sense of relief for that person. Everyone assumes I am 100% liberal…yet, when they get to know me, I am 100% impossible to be labeled! Being an enigma, politically, frustrates people who prefer conformity and walking in lockstep with their peers. The crap that Kanye is taking now, is quite hilarious….and so pathetic. Amazing that famous people are willing to excoriate him in public – what a bunch of horrible human beings. Kanye slays the Thought Police.

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  105. @Pericles
    Isn't Mickey Kaus an immigration skeptic Democrat?

    As far as I know, from reading many of his tweets, over the past few years, I think that that is a label that he would readily accept. From what I can tell, his only problem with mass immigration, on its current trajectory, is simply its exacerbating impact on income inequality.

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  106. @Hockamaw
    San Francisco really went downhill fast. It was a Shangri La when I left in 09, but the last time I was back in 2017 it had degenerated into a dump. I mean really a dump with garbage and vagrants everywhere. It's become a really cynical town as well which is sad to see. Can't quite put my finger on what went wrong out there but I think Douthat has the right idea.

    Shangri La might be overstating it. Even during the dot-com bubble there were plenty of homeless beggars. There seem to be more now though.

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    After the massive de-institutionalization of the 70's, homeless people appeared in most coastal cities. Every society has low-functioning bi-polar and schizophrenic people in their midst. And, naturally, since parents no longer institutionalize their delusional children, homeless people are the result. Most homeless I have noticed since the 70's are not capable of self-reliance or living in any kind of structure. They are basically, nuts. I don't see a solution. And, of course, California, with it's weather, beckons people. Homelessness is a lifestyle now, no different from the Roma people of Europe.
    , @danand
    Dave, there are manyfold more homeless in California now. The passage of SB-649 in '13 threw raw fuel on the embers. The"treatment centers" opened up, and the best of the best started poring in from all over the US West. Once you've had a taste of that high homeless life in CA, there's little incentive to leave: ever.

    http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB649
    , @Corn
    My mother visited San Francisco in the summer of 2015. She didn’t say anything about hunan dung in the streets, but she mentioned that the homeless were everywhere, often panhandled aggressively, and public outdoor areas smelled of urine.
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  107. @Anonymous

    Steve Sailer backed Trump? LMAO.
     
    Yeah, Sailer didn’t support Trump at all during the election. Maybe Sailer was afraid Trump would start fixing those things which are his Sailer’s blogging bread and butter. What does he do then? Work as a stock boy at Auto Zone by day and deliver pizzas at night in his 25-year old Toyota? Might do him some good to have a real schedule and some responsibility. Some people have a vested interest in not having problems fixed. I think Sailer fits in to that category. I know Rush Limbaugh and other mainstream conservatives secretly wanted Hillary. It would’ve been good for business.

    As far as regular readers like myself know, Sailer was rooting for Ted Cruz during the primaries and Unz turned temporarily into a Bernie Bro.

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  108. @benjaminl
    Big Texas cities like Fort Worth, though run by the GOP and not by CA Latino and Jewish pols, tend to have a similar lack of interest in the preservation of historic buildings, for Western libertarian free-market reasons.

    Fort Worth? you must not know it well. The Downtown (Sundance Square) is beautiful, and well preserved. All the neighborhoods where the Museum, Botanical Gardens, the golf courses, TCU are – many preserved homes/roads with pavers. FW is more appealing than Dallas.

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  109. @Dave Pinsen
    Shangri La might be overstating it. Even during the dot-com bubble there were plenty of homeless beggars. There seem to be more now though.

    After the massive de-institutionalization of the 70′s, homeless people appeared in most coastal cities. Every society has low-functioning bi-polar and schizophrenic people in their midst. And, naturally, since parents no longer institutionalize their delusional children, homeless people are the result. Most homeless I have noticed since the 70′s are not capable of self-reliance or living in any kind of structure. They are basically, nuts. I don’t see a solution. And, of course, California, with it’s weather, beckons people. Homelessness is a lifestyle now, no different from the Roma people of Europe.

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  110. @Polynikes
    He's great and he's been beating this drum for over a decade. Hawaii once boycotted his loveline show because he called them stupid and asked "what great inventions did the Hawaiins invent?"

    Obviously, I like Adam but he does have a couple of issues. A) A kind of worship of Wealth/Success; and, not unrelated-ly B) Jews/Israel. For example, the idea that liberal Hollywood jews “hate” israel is absurd, yet he repeats this any time he has on one of his “conservative” jewish pals–e.g. Prager or Shapiro, who are always happy to agree.

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  111. @Dave Pinsen
    They could move to a university town.

    You're right about Douthat and Trump though. Anyone who voted for W. really has no place arguing against Trump because he might kill the GOP brand. The brand was dead already.

    What I find interesting about so-called conservatives who despise Trump: schadenfreude is on them! Many “conservative” journalists made the stupid decision to be indignant about anything Trump to buy them some kind of social Pokemon points – now, duh, virtue-signaling gone bad. They thought they would be relevant, popular and become better paid. They thought people would enjoy reading journalists ripping Trump apart, ridicule his family, wife. Now, it’s just tacky and non-constructive. Sad :)

    They are stuck writing pieces halfheartedly, because they’re actually, stuck: rent/mortgage/tuition/stuff. They’re not like Kanye (can change mind) or Thiel (scary guy for “progressives,” because he can afford to obliterate news orgs…or build his own kingdom) because they don’t have enough money. And, they are not brave enough to be like Steve, Curtis, many podcasters. There seems to be a level of envy that Douthat and others, left/right, that some people can stick to their views and are not tied to a corporate entity. They can have fun and ride out the Trump waves. They can remain true to themselves.

    But, the true irony is, if Red States turn blue, it’s gonna suck for their kids and grandkids just as much. Only the truly wealthy, the .1 percenters can shield themselves from a dystopian world…for a few months.

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  112. @YetAnotherAnon
    Didn't the last guy (Weldon) who made a big fuss about Able Danger find himself suddenly under FBI investigation which cost him re-election although no charges were brought?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger#Able_Danger_and_the_9/11_Commission

    followed by

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curt_Weldon#2006_Investigation

    Anon 9.08 - "Heck, in the UK they stand by while their daughters are groomed for abuse"

    Fathers who went to the police were threatened with arrest for various racist crimes.

    Very nice point. We are at a point where investigation is vindication and investigating is guilt. The Establishment is rapidly de-legitimizing itself. Good news for Trumpists, bad news for main line neocon open borders Republicans, possibly eventual bad news for Democrats unless they can import enough of their new constitutency in time. Watch for the breaking of the legitimacy crisis.

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  113. @SFG
    I was in Indonesia seeing my best friend, the finance minister of Indonesia, and the taxi driver on the way there told me about how all the taxi drivers were losing their jobs. My response was, Great! Now you'll all be able to find new jobs taking part in the global economy.

    That's the amazing thing about globalization. Wherever you are, your country gets richer. I was in Mexico, visiting my other best friend, a businessman who owns an American newspaper some of you may have heard of, and he was telling me how his country has a great solution to its problems. When people can't find jobs, they just go to America! Then America gets cheap labor, the Mexicans save money on welfare, and everyone wins!

    People say America is losing its innovation. But just now I was with my other best friend, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur. He was standing up, which shows both the dynamism of Silicon Valley people, and also he's a little sore after the vigorous massage session from Mistress Cheeks--again showing how all kinds of new jobs and opportunities are breaking out all over. He showed me his new invention, a new app that lets you crowdsource your friends to find people willing to fix your house, take care of your kids, or trim your hedges at the lowest price! This is the special sauce that makes America great!

    That’s a perfect Tom Friedman! Wait a minute–did you cheat and use the online Tom Friedman Op/Ed Generator?

    http://thomasfriedmanopedgenerator.com/about.php

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  114. @Carol
    Ha, I must have been among the first to jump ship, in '75.

    My wife and I left in ’76. Principally economic. Even then, real estate was getting pricy and we left so we could afford to have a family and my wife could stay at home. Looking back, it was one of the best decisions we ever made.

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    The best, most realistic decision I ever made, was to be a "stay home, mommy!" My salary was really so sub-par...a lot of work and responsibility for a career I loved - but, I sooo wanted to be home. I was an older mom, and I wanted to stay home.

    I always told my adult sons: "you won't ever, be able to say that mom and dad were never around!" They're all successful and happy - check. We lived in a high-cost part of the country. It was not easy, but the results are excellent. My mother always said: "don't look back, don't scan/rewind your past. Look forward"

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  115. @Dave Pinsen
    Shangri La might be overstating it. Even during the dot-com bubble there were plenty of homeless beggars. There seem to be more now though.

    Dave, there are manyfold more homeless in California now. The passage of SB-649 in ’13 threw raw fuel on the embers. The”treatment centers” opened up, and the best of the best started poring in from all over the US West. Once you’ve had a taste of that high homeless life in CA, there’s little incentive to leave: ever.

    http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB649

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  116. @Clifford Brown
    California north of Fort Bragg is one of my favorite places in the country. I would never describe it as "Traditional America", but it certainly is an "America" I can get behind. A Libertarian Hippiedom mash-up that is not long for this World.

    Yeah, great place. Part of the Pacific Northwest really. Rains a lot like it does up there too. Eureka’s weather is like Astoria’s. Slosh, slosh….

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  117. @Dave Pinsen
    Shangri La might be overstating it. Even during the dot-com bubble there were plenty of homeless beggars. There seem to be more now though.

    My mother visited San Francisco in the summer of 2015. She didn’t say anything about hunan dung in the streets, but she mentioned that the homeless were everywhere, often panhandled aggressively, and public outdoor areas smelled of urine.

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  118. @SimpleSong
    Douthat just put Unz and Sailer's name in the NYT. Some segment of the population is going to be curious and google them.

    If you are correct on an issue, if you produce quality stuff, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

    I don't think Douthat is controlled opposition. I think he is a mole. I think he knows what he is doing. He plays the hand that he was dealt.

    So Douthat is not duping his readership, he is duping his employers. I hope you’re right. Still, I think he could be more interesting. I am curious then to what extent his op-eds have been censored.

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  119. There will be no white-middle-class out-migration to, say, Hungary

    Actually, Ross, the wife and I are already exploring the possibility.

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    If I had the choice of Budapest or Prague, I would opt for Prague, hands down.
    , @Lagertha
    Prague is excellent.
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  120. @Anonymous

    Steve Sailer backed Trump? LMAO.
     
    Yeah, Sailer didn’t support Trump at all during the election. Maybe Sailer was afraid Trump would start fixing those things which are his Sailer’s blogging bread and butter. What does he do then? Work as a stock boy at Auto Zone by day and deliver pizzas at night in his 25-year old Toyota? Might do him some good to have a real schedule and some responsibility. Some people have a vested interest in not having problems fixed. I think Sailer fits in to that category. I know Rush Limbaugh and other mainstream conservatives secretly wanted Hillary. It would’ve been good for business.

    In the run-up to the election, there were persistent questions as to whom Steve endorsed in the primaries, and later on, whether he endorsed Trump, to no answer. Eventually he replied in the comments that he does not publicly endorse presidential candidates, and does not tell readers who they should vote for. (I could have sworn the comment was in the days after Trump won, but can’t find it. So my timing is off, but I’m certain he said this.) Better to rally behind policy ideas and not politicians, that’s my take on it. You have a harsher assessment. In the Nov. 8 post “Election Day Open Thread”, he wrote:

    What’s up? – It’s been a fun election, hasn’t it? – And it’s been the most serious Presidential election in recent years in terms of massively important issues about the future of America finally being aired by one of the candidates.

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  121. @Desiderius

    There will be no white-middle-class out-migration to, say, Hungary
     
    Actually, Ross, the wife and I are already exploring the possibility.

    If I had the choice of Budapest or Prague, I would opt for Prague, hands down.

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  122. @psmith
    Jefferson statehood now! Arise and throw off the Sacramento/coastal yoke!

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  123. @Old Palo Altan
    I lived in Los Gatos as a teenager.
    The downtown was a delightful real place back then, with local shops, a few really good used book stores, one corner gas station, a first rate public library, and an architecturally impressive and by no means bad public high school. The Jesuits had their theologate in the hills, which added tone to the local Catholic community.
    I last strolled through the place some five or six years ago, and was disgusted by how fake it all was. No sense of a genuine community, with roots stretching back decades. Just the tell-tale signs of the nouveau riche showing off. (The theologate, by the way, is where the old Jesuits go to die nowadays; there are no new seminarians to educate).
    I didn't think of Disneyland though, but of Ocean Avenue in Carmel, where the same sad process has taken place (and indeed had begun a decade or two earlier).
    Saratoga had no downtown; it was just an extension of Los Gatos as far as I could ever see. So if the latter is now 3/5 Asian, then Los Gatos, indeed, cannot be far behind.

    I moved to the SF Bay area in 1992. As a kid, I lived in Southern California (Garden Grove) in an area that is now predominantly Latino, with a healthy chunk of southeast Asians (Vietnamese, mostly) mixed in. At the time, there was one immigrant family – Cuban emigres whom our parents used to refer to as “Lucy and Ricky.” At the time, I confess, I did not get it.

    1970s Orange County.

    My rep back in the day was B-1 Bob Dornan.

    I remember Los Gatos 25 years ago as pretty rustic mostly, but with expensive, Victorian and Crafstman homes around the immediate central city. The main drag (University Ave and Santa Cruz Ave, laid out like like a ladder with rungs between them) was decidedly upscale, but still somewhat non-formula. And there was the Old Town (sic) shopping center. This was before the arrival of Sur la Table and Anthropologie.

    We got married by a priest who “went to die” in the Jesuit home above Los Gatos.

    It has been transformed from the town where “The Cats” restaurant ruled to what it is now.

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    Thank you for an extremely interesting reflection on Los Gatos a good generation after my own time there.
    We actually lived up Kennedy Road, which I suppose could be called rustic, but nobody who lived there thought of it as such. "Rustic" would have been up around the reservoir; I often hiked up there, sometimes to shoot birds, squirrels, and even the odd bullfrog.
    For me then Main Street was "downtown" - the streets you mentioned were where the shops were, but what kid cares about those? What I went for were the book shops, and the quite good library.
    Los Gatos in the Sixties (we left, for Pebble Beach, in 1971) was still much influenced by the ambience left by the artists who had lived there in the '20s and '30s; sans a university, it was nevertheless a sort of mini Palo Alto.
    Come to think of it, that is probably why my mother (a Julliard graduate and a Chopin expert) insisted we move there, rather than to some of the truly ghastly alternatives my father had in mind, when we left Palo Alto in 1962.
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  124. @Old Palo Altan
    Another Berkeley man! Welcome to the club.
    I, although proudly, indeed insufferably haut bourgeois, have an unfeigned affection for the petit bourgeoisie, and for precisely the reason you highlight.
    It is the naturally fascist class, which, if one troubles to take a look at post WWI history, means no more than that it successfully fought Communism to a standstill wherever it came to power.

    Thank you. I am also a Fascist scholar, with a capital “F,” as in Mussolini’s philosopher, Giovanni Gentile. While it not helpful to place such ideologies on a left-right continuum, Fascism with a capital “F” (e.g. corporatism and masculine protest and a few other elements, like irredentism) is very distinct from the permanent “class struggle” and “dialectic” of Marx and Engels. The only similarities one can ascertain is that they are both neo-Hegelian in nature.

    Which brings you to post-WWI Harlem in the 1920′s with the Garveyism movement (Universal Negro Improvement Association), with all of that Pan-Africanism emanating from Jamaica’s favorite son, Marcus Garvey, and the attendant quasi-military parades with military uniforms, shoulder-boards with tassels, meaningless medals and fancy hats with plumage marching down the street of Harlem. I think Mussolini stole it from Garvey.

    But I digress. The whole reconquista and direct offensive by Mexico upon the southwest U.S. comprising California and other territories ceded by Mexico pursuant to the Treaty of Guadalupe de Hildalgo has been going on for decades and is more akin to a form of Nationalism-Socialism of the mestizo variety. Why can’t Trump have the cojones launch and a counter-offensive like the Punitive Expedition?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancho_Villa_Expedition

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    A relation of mine, Terry de la Mesa Allen, a celebrated general in the Second World War, saw action for the first time against Pancho Villa. So did his erstwhile friend and later nemesis George Patton.
    And there's the reason why Trump couldn't pull off another Punitive Expedition even if he wanted to: they just don't make 'em like that any more.
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  125. @Achmed E. Newman

    Since the 1990s new Californians are disproportionately likely to make around $200,000 a year, ...
     
    Yes, and even more disproportionally likely to be picking vegetables seasonally at $5/hr and getting health care at emergency rooms for "free" and claiming 4 dependents who may or may not be living in Mexico or at all on their income taxes that they disproportionally don't pay. This Douthat needs to learn about the mean vs. the median and distributions and that sort of thing, or else, drive around a bit more and look out the car window.

    Excellent point. Don’t forget the “free” car seat and stroller for women when they give birth, plus the “free” schooling that costs State and fed taxpayers more than $12,000 per year and more.

    NON-citizens can and do get these handouts all the time here.

    Even illegal aliens, since asking for proof of legal presence in the country would be almost a crime here, not breaking our laws to come here or stay here.

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  126. @psmith
    Jefferson statehood now! Arise and throw off the Sacramento/coastal yoke!

    Hell yes. California and Texas need to be split into five States each. Republicans should do it in Texas while they still have power there, because that will be changing.

    And the people of eastern Washington and eastern Oregon should get their own States and escape the looms on the coast.

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  127. @SLM
    My wife and I left in '76. Principally economic. Even then, real estate was getting pricy and we left so we could afford to have a family and my wife could stay at home. Looking back, it was one of the best decisions we ever made.

    The best, most realistic decision I ever made, was to be a “stay home, mommy!” My salary was really so sub-par…a lot of work and responsibility for a career I loved – but, I sooo wanted to be home. I was an older mom, and I wanted to stay home.

    I always told my adult sons: “you won’t ever, be able to say that mom and dad were never around!” They’re all successful and happy – check. We lived in a high-cost part of the country. It was not easy, but the results are excellent. My mother always said: “don’t look back, don’t scan/rewind your past. Look forward”

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  128. @Desiderius

    There will be no white-middle-class out-migration to, say, Hungary
     
    Actually, Ross, the wife and I are already exploring the possibility.

    Prague is excellent.

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    Lovely place, Prague. Once thought of moving there myself.

    For some reason, it has developed a sizable American expat community. Actually has been a matter of some concern for the Praguers.
    , @Big Bill
    "Ex-pat community" = colony. Or, rather, a white colony.

    Mexicans living in their Los Angeles colonies are never called "ex-pats".
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  129. @Anon
    Yeah, my parents and my brother's family both moved out, first to Maryland, now in Fort Worth. I last visited Los Angeles about 20 years ago.

    I remember thinking that Los Angeles was fading away from my affections because the Latino and Jewish politicians had no concern for its weird William Mulholland/Raymond Chandler heritage. The Pan Pacific was allowed to burn down; all the Googie architecture was torn down. Famous residential architecture ripped apart and auctioned as art pieces. No preservation like with the older buildings on the east coast. Now however the lack of people like me is what would alienate me the most.

    I looked at the demographics of my home community in Los Angeles the other day at the excellent L.A. Times community data site. Previously all white, although I remember one Asian, now half white, a sixth each for Latino and Black, a tenth for Asian.

    My elementary school is 38 black, 24 Hispanic; junior high 63 black, 26 Hispanic; high school 73 black, 17 Hispanic. We did have some bussing in high school, but not so much, and brighter kids only. I looked at Greatschools.org to try to figure out where the white kids are going to school, but it's mysterious. All the churches run some sort of school. I guess there are charter schools. Greatschools has a hilarious "study" that bemoans the achievement gap. Apparently blacks and Hispanics don't have "access" to challenging academics, like AP courses. I think that works both ways. If you have them and nobody takes or passes them, they get cancelled, at which point you no longer have access to them. AP passage rates can't be fudged like normal grades.

    The whites are either in non-LAUSD areas, or they are going to private and charter schools, as you suspect. Many of those schools are religious. Many were started in the past 10-20 years by parents who would sell their children into slavery before sending them to an LAUSD school.

    Homeschooling is also more common than most people realise, and it is growing.

    As to the rest, there are very few supermajority-white schools of any kind in the LA area, but there are many schools with enough whites, or at least middle-class, to develop subcultures. This has been the case for a long time.

    This reflects LA, and the US (which largely follows LA), as a whole. The various cultures can more or less exist next to each other, as long as they don’t mix much.

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  130. @benjaminl
    I'm quite curious about why some CA school districts, like Los Gatos, Newport Beach, Manhattan Beach, and Calabasas, have stayed mostly white rather than becoming majority Asian. Is it some kind of subtle signaling?

    Economists like to talk about "hard to fake" signals, and homeownership and even more so, school enrollment of one's children, are very hard to fake. Thus advocates for forced busing etc. should always be put on the spot about where their own kids enroll.

    A few possible reasons.

    East Asians tend to go where there are other East Asians, so some regions turn the corner and become Chinatowns: Alhambra, for instance.

    But Alhambra was mostly a lower-to-middle-class suburb before the Chinese showed up, and it’s still not terribly upscale. Those other places are wealthy and expensive. East Asians like bargains, and they aren’t going to find many in Manhattan Beach at the moment.

    Calabasas is a somewhat special case — very tiny, very mountainous, and mostly either national forest or large estates owned by the hyper-rich. Not many East Asians to start (a few South Asians though), and not much room for them.

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  131. @Lagertha
    Prague is excellent.

    Lovely place, Prague. Once thought of moving there myself.

    For some reason, it has developed a sizable American expat community. Actually has been a matter of some concern for the Praguers.

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    Prague is a cruxis. Americans drawn there, have often, roots there or in eastern Europe. It is also the "new fountain of youth," - because it is locked in time with all their history and hot springs and all. The city is beautiful, the beer is good, the women are beautiful...my sons' opinion. Czech women or Japanese women are still, first on my list of perfect daughters-in-law...hahaa Steve, explore hot springs for posts.
    , @Lagertha
    duh, CIA American dudes/dudettes.
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  132. @Excal
    Lovely place, Prague. Once thought of moving there myself.

    For some reason, it has developed a sizable American expat community. Actually has been a matter of some concern for the Praguers.

    Prague is a cruxis. Americans drawn there, have often, roots there or in eastern Europe. It is also the “new fountain of youth,” – because it is locked in time with all their history and hot springs and all. The city is beautiful, the beer is good, the women are beautiful…my sons’ opinion. Czech women or Japanese women are still, first on my list of perfect daughters-in-law…hahaa Steve, explore hot springs for posts.

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  133. @Excal
    Lovely place, Prague. Once thought of moving there myself.

    For some reason, it has developed a sizable American expat community. Actually has been a matter of some concern for the Praguers.

    duh, CIA American dudes/dudettes.

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  134. @Lagertha
    I actually, see this happening: white people are beginning to realize what is happening to them in their blue state. Most liberals would not be happy living in a Red State since they will always be considered "strangers." It is very hard to move to the South, Mountain States, or middle...Texas, if you are a liberal - you will never be welcome, or a part of the community. And, the wealthier, more educated people will certainly, not include you in their social life. There is a sort of visceral hatred of SJW's but it won't be shown - you just won't be joining their clubs and associations.

    Douthat is such a drag to read...he is so insufferably pompous and seems a bit P---y whipped to me...hmmm?...maybe he just comes across as always unsatisfied.I don't understand his obsession with Trump, don't really understand any men who are so incensed with Trump - I mean, I held my nose with Bush, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama (after 3 years). Most men who don't like Trump need to get over themselves and move-on; be productive & constructive. And, calling people petit-bourgeosie is so silly! - I mean, just don't. It seems people still think condescending to people is ok. Being haughty will shut the gates real quick in Red states; and, you will have no friends.

    California will become as dangerous as Mexico City and Brazil. The irony will be: cops are gonna be incompetent (and bribed) like in Mexico...because the petit-bourgeosie cops have moved to Nevada or Idaho, or North Carolina. There will be no white middle class left in the CA cities. Naturally, crime will increase, and it will be ugly smash & grabs, car-jackings, house robberies.

    My favorite RHW of Beverly Hills had her home broken into recently: all jewelry, shoes and handbags (millions of dollars worth) stolen. No suspects: stuff was probably sold in Brazil or wherever. The Black Market is alive and well in California. And, once the public has been disarmed, it's over. I like California but I see it becoming a dystopia first and foremost. The irony is: the liberal elites will be very interested in "special" walls once they don't feel safe. When there are less jobs for non-elite people (Democrats suck at creating jobs), they are just gonna take it from the wealthy. Cities will have more crime. Hollywood is also eroding...it's slow, but it is happening.

    California will become as dangerous as Mexico City and Brazil.

    CA is already more dangerous than Mexico City. Has a long way to go before Brasil, though.

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  135. @petit bourgeois
    Thank you. I am also a Fascist scholar, with a capital "F," as in Mussolini's philosopher, Giovanni Gentile. While it not helpful to place such ideologies on a left-right continuum, Fascism with a capital "F" (e.g. corporatism and masculine protest and a few other elements, like irredentism) is very distinct from the permanent "class struggle" and "dialectic" of Marx and Engels. The only similarities one can ascertain is that they are both neo-Hegelian in nature.

    Which brings you to post-WWI Harlem in the 1920's with the Garveyism movement (Universal Negro Improvement Association), with all of that Pan-Africanism emanating from Jamaica's favorite son, Marcus Garvey, and the attendant quasi-military parades with military uniforms, shoulder-boards with tassels, meaningless medals and fancy hats with plumage marching down the street of Harlem. I think Mussolini stole it from Garvey.

    But I digress. The whole reconquista and direct offensive by Mexico upon the southwest U.S. comprising California and other territories ceded by Mexico pursuant to the Treaty of Guadalupe de Hildalgo has been going on for decades and is more akin to a form of Nationalism-Socialism of the mestizo variety. Why can't Trump have the cojones launch and a counter-offensive like the Punitive Expedition?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancho_Villa_Expedition

    A relation of mine, Terry de la Mesa Allen, a celebrated general in the Second World War, saw action for the first time against Pancho Villa. So did his erstwhile friend and later nemesis George Patton.
    And there’s the reason why Trump couldn’t pull off another Punitive Expedition even if he wanted to: they just don’t make ‘em like that any more.

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  136. @dwb
    I moved to the SF Bay area in 1992. As a kid, I lived in Southern California (Garden Grove) in an area that is now predominantly Latino, with a healthy chunk of southeast Asians (Vietnamese, mostly) mixed in. At the time, there was one immigrant family - Cuban emigres whom our parents used to refer to as "Lucy and Ricky." At the time, I confess, I did not get it.

    1970s Orange County.

    My rep back in the day was B-1 Bob Dornan.

    I remember Los Gatos 25 years ago as pretty rustic mostly, but with expensive, Victorian and Crafstman homes around the immediate central city. The main drag (University Ave and Santa Cruz Ave, laid out like like a ladder with rungs between them) was decidedly upscale, but still somewhat non-formula. And there was the Old Town (sic) shopping center. This was before the arrival of Sur la Table and Anthropologie.

    We got married by a priest who "went to die" in the Jesuit home above Los Gatos.

    It has been transformed from the town where "The Cats" restaurant ruled to what it is now.

    Thank you for an extremely interesting reflection on Los Gatos a good generation after my own time there.
    We actually lived up Kennedy Road, which I suppose could be called rustic, but nobody who lived there thought of it as such. “Rustic” would have been up around the reservoir; I often hiked up there, sometimes to shoot birds, squirrels, and even the odd bullfrog.
    For me then Main Street was “downtown” – the streets you mentioned were where the shops were, but what kid cares about those? What I went for were the book shops, and the quite good library.
    Los Gatos in the Sixties (we left, for Pebble Beach, in 1971) was still much influenced by the ambience left by the artists who had lived there in the ’20s and ’30s; sans a university, it was nevertheless a sort of mini Palo Alto.
    Come to think of it, that is probably why my mother (a Julliard graduate and a Chopin expert) insisted we move there, rather than to some of the truly ghastly alternatives my father had in mind, when we left Palo Alto in 1962.

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  137. @Whiskey
    Except Machiavelli advised better to kill your enemies than make them poor. A massive amount of Whites as fifth class helots and serfs who are suddenly poor and have less than their parents and grandparents is a call to ultra violent revolution

    Douthat sees this and is rightly scared. Mexico is already making noises about annexing CA, TX etc. Import Mexicans get annexation to Mexico.

    Mexican reconquista vs American reconqista is an ugly no quarter race war for America. And that is inevitable if mass immigration is not stopped. The ak 47 gives populations targeted for elimination the ability to fight back ask Somoza.

    Something I wonder about, but it’s hard to find information on – what is the attitude of CA’s numerous Asians (and blacks, Middle Easterners, etc) to all the talk about “Reconquista”?

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  138. @Barnard
    This has already happened in a lot of other places around the country besides California. Any town that has a meat packing plant has seen a large influx of East Africans. Plenty of places have had a large influx of Hispanics. The difference is there hasn't been the run up in real estate and cost of living that coastal California has seen. A big part of the plan has been indoctrinating young people that they are racist if they oppose any of it. That has had some success.

    Any town that has a meat packing plant has seen a large influx of East Africans.

    Monmouth and Galesburg, Illinois. There are tons of Africans in both towns.

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    I live about 40 mins east of Galesburg, I don’t go there much but I haven’t heard of any immigrant influx there.

    Do you ever make it down to Beardstown? The IBP meatpacking plant down there has been drawing in Hispanics for decades. A couple years ago I ran into an old schoolmate who got a job down there and he told me the plant was filling up with French speaking blacks. I didn’t ask if they were Haitian or West African.
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  139. @Mike Zwick

    Any town that has a meat packing plant has seen a large influx of East Africans.
     
    Monmouth and Galesburg, Illinois. There are tons of Africans in both towns.

    I live about 40 mins east of Galesburg, I don’t go there much but I haven’t heard of any immigrant influx there.

    Do you ever make it down to Beardstown? The IBP meatpacking plant down there has been drawing in Hispanics for decades. A couple years ago I ran into an old schoolmate who got a job down there and he told me the plant was filling up with French speaking blacks. I didn’t ask if they were Haitian or West African.

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  140. @Pericles
    Lol, so why was Shwarma blocking the guest parking spot in the first place?

    If it is like some YouTube videos I have seen recently, she was standing in the parking spot and “reserving” it for her relatives who were going to arrive later.

    Chinese do the same thing.

    First-come, first-served is not a part of their culture.

    They’ll send their females out to the parking garage to find a parking spot.

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  141. @Lagertha
    Prague is excellent.

    “Ex-pat community” = colony. Or, rather, a white colony.

    Mexicans living in their Los Angeles colonies are never called “ex-pats”.

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