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Caitalina and Columba Bush

The murder of Kathryn Steinle by an undocumented nonworker / documented five-time felon from Mexico has gotten everybody who is anybody even more furious with Donald Trump. The NYT and WaPo are awash with denunciations of Trump. Corporate America is enraged with Trump: the PGA is cutting ties with him.

On the other hand, Republican voters seem pleased to have even a bit of debate over the future of America. Jeb Bush, who has been running on the basis that it’s time for a transethnic Mexican to be President, was asked by a New Hampshire voter about Trump pointing out that his opinion on amnesty is obviously biased by his marriage.

From the Washington Post:

Jeb Bush: ‘You can love your Mexican-American wife and also believe that you need to control the border’

By Ed O’Keefe July 8 at 7:50 PM

HUDSON, N.H. — A voter at a Veterans of Foreign Wars hall here asked Jeb Bush Wednesday night to weigh in on recent remarks by Donald Trump about Mexican immigrants — and the comments the business magnate tweeted about the former governor’s wife.

Over the weekend, Trump had retweeted — and then deleted — a message suggesting that Bush has a more comprehensive view on immigration reform because of his Mexican-born wife, Columba.

Bush shrugged off the back-and-forth Wednesday night, calling Trump’s comments part of “this weird little controversy that I’m not a big party to” before outlining his border security plan and reiterating that he supports a path to legal status for illegal immigrants.

“You can love the Mexican culture, you can love your Mexican-American wife and also believe that we need to control the border,” Bush told the crowd. “This is a bizarre kind of idea that somehow you can have an affection for people in a different country and not think the rule of law should apply. This is ludicrous.”

The phrase “rule of law” is not going to redound to Caitalina’s benefit.

 
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  1. Love ya Steve, but this reads like you were drunk.

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  2. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I’m just loving the way Trump is getting all these people riled up. They sure are over-reacting and getting screechy. Apparently he’s hitting a sore spot. Whether he ends up going anywhere or not he’s putting the issue in front of the public in a way that the mass of them can understand and relate to. Don’t make things too philosophical or abstract and use concrete examples such as the recent illegal alien murderer as a lightening rod. People need to have a human face put on an issue. It’ll be interesting to see what big guns they’ll roll out against Trump.

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    • Replies: @Realist
    It's just politics. The next President will be a brainless asshole.
    , @24AheadDotCom
    Trump is dumbing things way down and lying when he isn't merely overinflating the issue. He and Teaparty are like a live version of Idiocracy and they're *helping* amnesty supporters.

    I say that as someone who's written 1000s of posts about immigration since 2002 and who was one of the two people selected to kick off Malkin's old immigration blog.

    If you want to help Trump and much more importantly help the U.S., start a campaign to get him to use good arguments like
    http://24ahead.com/s/false-compassion

    If Trump had used that instead of smearing most Mexican illegal aliens as rapists and similar, then he would have had a very healthy impact. Instead, he's helping amnesty supporters.

    We need people in the public eye to raise these issues. We just need them to do it in smart ways and not something straight outta Idiocracy.
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  3. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    The latest hot take is that Trump helps Jeb (e.g., Josh Barro: https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/618940573840445442 ; David Frum: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/619108803963953152 ). I don’t buy it though. If Trump stays in until the debates — and there’s no reason why he wouldn’t, now that the media and Corporate America have burned his ships behind him — he’ll hammer Jeb on immigration, trade, and Iraq, from pillar to post.

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    If Trump stays in until the debates — and there’s no reason why he wouldn’t, now that the media and Corporate America have burned his ships behind him — he’ll hammer Jeb on immigration, trade, and Iraq, from pillar to post.

    Whatever this campaign finally produces, if Trump can knock the pins out from under Jeb Bush, I'll consider his candidacy a success.
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  4. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

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    • Replies: @Robbie
    Oh honey, we can play this game.

    But you may not be the winner.
    , @neutral
    This argument I have heard so many times: "If you are successful then you should not care about having open borders". First of all if you want to play this narrative (because I know you are not talking from experience, you are just regurgitating the narrative) then ask the question why you want all the losers from the 3rd world world ? And they are losers because they are fleeing a land they cannot turn into a success. If you are going to use this weird liberal Darwinian argument about the inferior people being against immigration, then there is no way you can be against the Darwinian argument for not wanting inferior people moving into your lands in the first place.

    Secondly, countries like Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc. are the most fecund, which according to you makes them winners...
    , @ben tillman

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund.
     
    Immigration hurts the talented and productive the most, because they are the ones who benefit from an orderly society that protects what they produce from parasites who take or destroy it. Support for immigration comes always and exclusively from parasites and those who are indoctrinated by them.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Please write back when you get better. We're all concerned.
    , @SFG
    Yup. The richer you are, the more likely you are to benefit from immigration. That's why I oppose it. It benefits the wealthy at the expense of the native working classes who have to compete with the immigrants.
    , @MarkinLA
    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders .

    How many of them live around these immigrants?
    , @Danindc
    This is true from my personal experience as well although without that id be inclined to disagree.
    , @AnAnon
    "All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border." - its the other way around, Liberals have an average fertility of around 1.3, while conservatives are in the 2+ range.
    , @Bill
    Keep it up. Exactly like that. In exactly that tone. Could you please try to get a job on national TV? That would be even more helpful.
    , @anonymous
    Not every citizen is going to be especially 'talented'.

    Most people are by definition - average…they are still citizens, and their leaders should be working hard to protect their interests.
    , @anon

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund
     
    Yeah it does - mass immigration is deflationary (as should be completely obvious by now).

    It's true it doesn't hurt them *first*; it hurts less talented people first which if you define citizenship as having an implicit duty of care to fellow citizens makes them traitors.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Go to Silicon Valley. The "talented" are having their wages beaten down by H1b visa workers, while the cost of living has been inflated by the immigration-driven increased population density.

    Immigration screws almost everyone, other than financiers and inherited wealth.
    , @pyrrhus
    Yes, taxpaying successful people want to let in millions of low IQ and violent (but I repeat myself) people so those successful people can pay for the welfare and medical costs of those people and their crime victims, while destroying the labor market for actual Americans.....in what misbegotten Universe?
    , @BigGaySteve
    If you actually are productive your kids will have to pay for the benefits low IQ 3rd world people leech. It is hidden by debt, multiple layers, & privacy laws but Switzerland which has a pay as you go system has published stories about how much low IQ 3rd world refugees leech.
    Hagenbuch, in the Swiss canton of Zurich, spends around $60,000 a month on a squatmonster with 8 kids, are you paying over $60,000 a month in taxes to support a low IQ 3rd world savage? Stupid people in Puerto Rico collect social security disability for not speaking English.
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  5. neutral says:

    This is a question one cannot ask in polite society, but I really have to ask, what is the deal with Bush marrying that woman ? I get that he that he loves Mexico and almost wants to become Mexican, but there are some very attractive Mexican woman out there, why did he pick her ? Surely with his family connections he could have easily married someone from a Telenovella ?

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    They say that men date women that remind them of their mother. Jeb married the first woman he met who reminded him of his Mexican nanny.

    Clearly he thinks of the nanny as his real mother.

    I don't see any other explanation.
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  6. Robbie says:
    @Anonymous
    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    Oh honey, we can play this game.

    But you may not be the winner.

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  7. neutral says:
    @Anonymous
    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    This argument I have heard so many times: “If you are successful then you should not care about having open borders”. First of all if you want to play this narrative (because I know you are not talking from experience, you are just regurgitating the narrative) then ask the question why you want all the losers from the 3rd world world ? And they are losers because they are fleeing a land they cannot turn into a success. If you are going to use this weird liberal Darwinian argument about the inferior people being against immigration, then there is no way you can be against the Darwinian argument for not wanting inferior people moving into your lands in the first place.

    Secondly, countries like Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc. are the most fecund, which according to you makes them winners…

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  8. @Dave Pinsen
    The latest hot take is that Trump helps Jeb (e.g., Josh Barro: https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/618940573840445442 ; David Frum: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/619108803963953152 ). I don't buy it though. If Trump stays in until the debates -- and there's no reason why he wouldn't, now that the media and Corporate America have burned his ships behind him -- he'll hammer Jeb on immigration, trade, and Iraq, from pillar to post.

    If Trump stays in until the debates — and there’s no reason why he wouldn’t, now that the media and Corporate America have burned his ships behind him — he’ll hammer Jeb on immigration, trade, and Iraq, from pillar to post.

    Whatever this campaign finally produces, if Trump can knock the pins out from under Jeb Bush, I’ll consider his candidacy a success.

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    You know what's funny when you think about it: Frum and Barro, mentats of the mainstream on this, get to their conclusion that , despite Trump loudly and repeatedly reminding voters that Jeb is wrong on immigration, Iraq, and every other issue they care about, Trump is helpingJeb, because it's inconceivable to them that some odd duck could beat an establishment candidate - as if that's not what happened in '08 when a half-black guy with a Muslim name beat Hillary Clinton.
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  9. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Harry Baldwin
    If Trump stays in until the debates — and there’s no reason why he wouldn’t, now that the media and Corporate America have burned his ships behind him — he’ll hammer Jeb on immigration, trade, and Iraq, from pillar to post.

    Whatever this campaign finally produces, if Trump can knock the pins out from under Jeb Bush, I'll consider his candidacy a success.

    You know what’s funny when you think about it: Frum and Barro, mentats of the mainstream on this, get to their conclusion that , despite Trump loudly and repeatedly reminding voters that Jeb is wrong on immigration, Iraq, and every other issue they care about, Trump is helpingJeb, because it’s inconceivable to them that some odd duck could beat an establishment candidate – as if that’s not what happened in ’08 when a half-black guy with a Muslim name beat Hillary Clinton.

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    • Replies: @gruff
    I hope this usage of 'mentat' catches on.
    , @Maj. Kong
    Jeb could lose the Iowa Caucus, the NH primary, and the SC primary, but still be in the game, if the donors think he can win the blue state primaries.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/upshot/the-surprising-power-of-blue-state-republicans.html?_r=0

    A donor revolt against Jeb is the quickest way he goes down, the same for Hillary. If BushClinton 'stay the course' they will win a war of attrition.

    Jeb is further not the biggest threat to patriotic immigration reformers, Marco Rubio is. Jeb has no credibilty with the base, so even if he wins the primary, he'll lose. Rubio is close enough to the CruzPaulLee bloc to gain enough of their support.
    , @anonymous
    The real question is not if Trump could win…I suppose there is a very slight possibility.

    The question is, does Trump even want to win. He seems to rear his head around election time and create a lot of publicity for himself, and he probably highlights some issues that are important to him, but do you honestly think he even wants to be president for 4 or 8 years?
    , @anonymous-antiskynetist
    Jeeze I wish I'd thought of "mentats of the mainstream".
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  10. The media is giving Trump lots of free coverage, which tells me that they agree with the commenters here who have argued Trump hurts the GOP. If a calm, rational immigration patriot, like Tom Tancredo, were to toss his hat into the ring, we’d hear nothing but crickets chirping.

    Either that or he’d become too huge to ignore. But his previous, brief, run didn’t get very far.

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    Trump is pretty hard to ignore--he's been a huge media personality for decades. It's unfortunate that "a calm, rational immigration patriot like Tom Tancredo" is completely ignored, but maybe that's because his presentation is so hard to refute. It's similar to the problem with Jared Taylor; he's so calm and reasonable no one wants to give him any air time. Come to think of it, you never see the most famous white racist, David Duke, on TV either. Wouldn't you think that with the constant talk about racism on TV they'd want to interview a self-proclaimed white racist? CNN does these Soledad O'Brien hour-long specials on racism in America, and yet we never get to hear from an actual racist. Obviously the media is terrified to allow such people access to the Megaphone.
    , @rod1963
    You're joking right?

    The last person to have a calm and rational discussion about illegal immigration was Lou Dobbs and was demonized by Hispanic racist groups like La Raza, Mecha, white leftists and ultimately fired from his position on CNN.

    Trump's statements were blunt but hardly over the top. But I suspect to many sensitive whites they were far too intense for them.
    , @Difference Maker
    When Trump says he loves this country, I believe him.

    Trump is different from the other candidates in being rather more formidable and capable of affecting things. He has independence and is right in saying that, unlike others, he has built and achieved success in many things.

    The media attacks him to blunt his campaign. If they did not, he would still be getting interviews with minor reporters, going on the campaign trail, getting his message out. Regular people would see him and think, there's rich and successful Donald Trump from popular culture and TV, and he speaks to my heart/makes sense.

    Some nobody politico would not be able to do these sort of things with any consequence and therefore would still remain safely a nobody.

    So if the media establishment don't want him or his ideas to succeed they have to address them. Witness the early caricatures immediately coming out as a joke candidate. If people took Trump seriously and if he was serious then it would be quite dangerous for the establishment.

    The following mass flight from supposed racism would break any other candidate and the usual suspects. The opposing media and powers-that-be attempt to discredit him and his ideas right away, or else those ideas would gain traction.

    , @Bill
    Hurting the GOP == good.
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  11. Does anyone know what the five felonies were?

    Off topic a little – Hispanic crime
    Google University of Florida shoplifting study. Hispanic women are six times more likely than Caucasian women to shoplift.

    More off topic. I think people will judge Jeb poorly because of his wife. She reminds me of the maid Arnold got pregnant. Except Jeb married her.

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  12. Keith Vaz [AKA "D'Marco Mobley"] says:

    “more comprehensive view on immigration reform”.

    Ah, I see what is going on here. People are conflating the adjectives ‘comprehensive’ and ‘partial’.

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    • Replies: @Kauai
    And it is an easy bank shot from comprehensive to partial to partisan, vaguely reminiscent of Tinker to Evans to Chance (you youngsters may have to Google that one).
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  13. @International Jew
    The media is giving Trump lots of free coverage, which tells me that they agree with the commenters here who have argued Trump hurts the GOP. If a calm, rational immigration patriot, like Tom Tancredo, were to toss his hat into the ring, we'd hear nothing but crickets chirping.

    Either that or he'd become too huge to ignore. But his previous, brief, run didn't get very far.

    Trump is pretty hard to ignore–he’s been a huge media personality for decades. It’s unfortunate that “a calm, rational immigration patriot like Tom Tancredo” is completely ignored, but maybe that’s because his presentation is so hard to refute. It’s similar to the problem with Jared Taylor; he’s so calm and reasonable no one wants to give him any air time. Come to think of it, you never see the most famous white racist, David Duke, on TV either. Wouldn’t you think that with the constant talk about racism on TV they’d want to interview a self-proclaimed white racist? CNN does these Soledad O’Brien hour-long specials on racism in America, and yet we never get to hear from an actual racist. Obviously the media is terrified to allow such people access to the Megaphone.

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    • Replies: @peterike

    Obviously the media is terrified to allow such people access to the Megaphone.

     

    Along those lines, is it me, or has the media more or less buried the Dylann Roof story? It seems to all be about the Confederate flag now. Is Roof getting the Brevik treatment? As it happens, Roof's "manifesto" was coherent and mostly spot on. It's no surprise they don't want to give him access to the megaphone.
    , @Jaggers
    Trump is actually a better spokesman than Taylor or Tancredo. He simply has more charisma, he's more the happy warrior.
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  14. Anonymous says: • Website • Disclaimer

    The USA is finished. The final global credit bubble is melting down and the carnage will be epic. We are in worse shape than Greece and all of the band-aids are coming off.

    So what if Trump, Bush or Clinton wins. You can’t fix America this time because you can’t fix stupid. The new demographics are S-T-U-P-I-D.

    And it’s not like we can soldier on as a new Brazil. The only reason Brazil clings to Second World status is because of the First World engine of prosperity which has been anchored by the linchpin USA.

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    The only reason Brazil clings to Second World status
     
    Brasil is third-world. The "second world" referred to the Communist bloc.
    , @Jefferson
    "And it’s not like we can soldier on as a new Brazil. The only reason Brazil clings to Second World status is because of the First World engine of prosperity which has been anchored by the linchpin USA."

    The reason Brazil is not as poor as Haiti is because they still have a large enough White population and also because in Brazil Mulattoes who look like Eric Holder outnumber people of predominantly Sub Saharan African descent like Michael Brown.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Keep your despair to yourself. The rest of us recognize that duty requires us to abjure despair.

    Even if your assertions are true, we are still better off, much better off, to turn our backs on your counsel.

    We may lose. But we will not cower and shrink. We will not cede the battlefield.

    You should be ashamed not only of quitting the fight, but recruiting others to do so as well.
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  15. @Anonymous
    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund.

    Immigration hurts the talented and productive the most, because they are the ones who benefit from an orderly society that protects what they produce from parasites who take or destroy it. Support for immigration comes always and exclusively from parasites and those who are indoctrinated by them.

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    • Replies: @SFG
    No, support from immigration comes from whichever sectors of society benefit from it. In our case it's the businessmen who want cheap labor and the liberals who want brown votes.
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  16. countenance says: • Website

    “Trump is only in it to help Jeb!” is a canard I even hear from some of our people.

    Okay, so why is he taking Jeb! head on, on policy matters?

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    • Replies: @Stan D Mute

    "Trump is only in it to help Jeb!” is a canard I even hear from some of our people.
     
    Once again proving the left doesn't have a monopoly on stupid!

    Trump making immigration THE issue for 2016 is devastating to a guy with a mestizo wife who speaks broken English. And looking at the demographics of Florida, nobody in their right mind could be convinced "El Jeb" has the slightest interest or intention of securing the border.
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  17. peterike says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Trump is pretty hard to ignore--he's been a huge media personality for decades. It's unfortunate that "a calm, rational immigration patriot like Tom Tancredo" is completely ignored, but maybe that's because his presentation is so hard to refute. It's similar to the problem with Jared Taylor; he's so calm and reasonable no one wants to give him any air time. Come to think of it, you never see the most famous white racist, David Duke, on TV either. Wouldn't you think that with the constant talk about racism on TV they'd want to interview a self-proclaimed white racist? CNN does these Soledad O'Brien hour-long specials on racism in America, and yet we never get to hear from an actual racist. Obviously the media is terrified to allow such people access to the Megaphone.

    Obviously the media is terrified to allow such people access to the Megaphone.

    Along those lines, is it me, or has the media more or less buried the Dylann Roof story? It seems to all be about the Confederate flag now. Is Roof getting the Brevik treatment? As it happens, Roof’s “manifesto” was coherent and mostly spot on. It’s no surprise they don’t want to give him access to the megaphone.

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  18. Caitalina?? Where did you come up with that?

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  19. So the MSM, “Corporate America,” GOP politicians, and the PGA are angry at Trump for taking a policy position based on fact. And these same characters aren’t bothered in the least by the brutal murder of a young woman.

    Could George Orwell have imagined this?

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    So the MSM, “Corporate America,” GOP politicians, and the PGA are angry at Trump for taking a policy position based on fact. And these same characters aren’t bothered in the least by the brutal murder of a young woman.

    Could George Orwell have imagined this?
     
    Of course they're furious about Trump and his facts. In politics, one of the surest ways to assess the objective Truth of something is to observe the level of anger it elicits from the opposition. Nobody ever tries to censor lies.

    Orwell may not have foreseen the invasion of America and Europe by Africans, but he accurately foretold the ideological foundation and methods used in fomenting it and obfuscating the effects.
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  20. @Anonymous
    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    Please write back when you get better. We’re all concerned.

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  21. Dahlia says:

    Side benefit: Trump rising helps Bernie Sanders. The Democratic voters are being far more pragmatic this cycle because they have a lot to lose; the Republican voters on the other hand are just desperate for anybody to take them seriously and have little to lose.

    The support for Hillary has been based only on her strength, specifically, to beat Jeb. This goes against liberal instincts for fresh, but they’re in the same mood as when they nominated John Kerry. The Democrats seeing Republican voters throw all caution to the wind against their own conservative instincts encourages them to be less afraid and go with their heart.

    I’ve read a couple pieces on why Bernie is going to run up against the wall of the moderate Black and Southern White voter and lose. I disagree. They have forgotten that in Obama vs. Clinton, the Black support was with Hillary and very quickly started going to Obama after he won Iowa. Blacks are more cautious and conservative and just needed to be shown that Obama *could* win before getting behind him.

    They’re with Bernie, the more liberal one, on all the bread and butter issues. They just need, again, to have demonstrated that he can win.

    I hope Bernie wins his primary. It has become patently clear over the last 10+ years that nothing has been more extreme and radical in the worst way as “Center Left” and “Center Right”.

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    " It has become patently clear over the last 10+ years that nothing has been more extreme and radical in the worst way as “Center Left” and “Center Right”."

    That's a keeper. I'll be quoting that a lot. Bombing countries has become the "moderate" position.
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  22. asdfsdfd says:

    Its gonna get worse for Jeb. The picture that you posted of Jeb and his wife is the first time I have seen his wife.

    The perception that I get is a short, pudgy, confused cleaning lady. Jeb’s best strategy might be to deport her until the election is over.

    On the other hand Trump has a really hot and young looking wife. It will be interesting to see the Trump appearances and how he uses his wife to draw contrasts with other candidates.

    In today’s kardashian-america era voters are quire shallow, and most receive their information through some visual media. How will the contrasting perception of wives of these two candidates influence the public?

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    • Replies: @Stan D Mute

    The perception that I get is a short, pudgy, confused cleaning lady. Jeb’s best strategy might be to deport her until the election is over.
     
    Now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure I've seen her in real life. She was pushing a big yellow Rubbermaid cart on the seventh floor of the Miami Beach Loews and replacing the little bottles of hand lotion and boxes of Kleenex in each room. I distinctly recall that the cart was taller than she was. At least she was doing her part when "El Jeb" ran into money trouble during his years in Miami.
    , @Thomas Fuller
    ... currently has #37 in a series of really hot trophy wives ...

    FIFY!

    PS He's had more wives than toupées. He adds gaiety to the nation. Excellent fellow, mad as a brush.
    , @Rob McX
    Mrs Bush looked better in older pictures, e.g. this one from ten years ago. The thing I'd like to know is, has anyone ever witnessed her speaking English? I can't see any evidence of it. That's odd for the wife of a man who served eight years as governor of a prominent state.
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  23. maynard says:

    Trump will be done if any of his employees are found to be illegal immigrants. I’m sure the major newspapers on this one.

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    Not if he explains that civil rights law makes it impossible not to hire illegals.

    https://www.vdare.com/articles/msm-predictably-smearing-trump-over-illegals-civil-rights-laws-forces-him-to-hire
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  24. Ed says:

    To be fair, this is something of a cheap shot at Jeb Bush. I’ve never heard of an immigration restrictionist who has called for banning Americans from marrying foreigners, or not letting foreign spouses of Americans to immigrate. I’ve also not heard of any other country that does this. I’ve seen lots of arguments about ending chain migration by relatives, but they generally stop at primary family members and are aimed at stopping people immigrating to this country themselves, then bringing their families in.

    And there are people who marry to get green cards! But its not inconsistent to want to reduce immigration to the US and to still favor letting in spouses, or to marry a foreigner yourself. Its not inconsistent to be an immigrant yourself and favor reducing immigration.

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    Trump's wife is a foreigner...But I doubt she's going to be affecting Donald's policy on immigration
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  25. Bert says:

    Trump’s last run was a stunt to promote his TV show. This run almost seems serious.

    The GOP field has become an absolute train-wreck. We have Holy Jeb as the anointed winner, followed by Trump who is a billionaire the GOP actually can’t bring themselves to like. Down below them you have pompous blowhards like Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham who are courting the Iraq dead-ender demographic. Then you have Rand Paul who alienated pretty much all of his potential supporters but is convinced that BLACK PEOPLE ARE NATURAL REPUBLICANS NO REALLY I’M SERIOUS. Then below him you have also-rans Kasich, Huckabee, Perry, and Santorum who have no reason for anyone to mention them. Rounding out this party is such allstars as George Pataki and Jim Gilmore who are probably only doing this to feel like their careers weren’t the complete wastes that they were.

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  26. Realist says:
    @anonymous
    I'm just loving the way Trump is getting all these people riled up. They sure are over-reacting and getting screechy. Apparently he's hitting a sore spot. Whether he ends up going anywhere or not he's putting the issue in front of the public in a way that the mass of them can understand and relate to. Don't make things too philosophical or abstract and use concrete examples such as the recent illegal alien murderer as a lightening rod. People need to have a human face put on an issue. It'll be interesting to see what big guns they'll roll out against Trump.

    It’s just politics. The next President will be a brainless asshole.

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    It’s just politics. The next President will be a brainless asshole.
     
    Unfortunately you are certainly right.
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  27. SFG says:
    @ben tillman

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund.
     
    Immigration hurts the talented and productive the most, because they are the ones who benefit from an orderly society that protects what they produce from parasites who take or destroy it. Support for immigration comes always and exclusively from parasites and those who are indoctrinated by them.

    No, support from immigration comes from whichever sectors of society benefit from it. In our case it’s the businessmen who want cheap labor and the liberals who want brown votes.

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    No, support from immigration comes from whichever sectors of society benefit from it. In our case it’s the businessmen who want cheap labor and the liberals who want brown votes.
     
    And how is that supposed to contradict my point? You just cited two parasitic endeavors.
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  28. Mr. Anon says:

    “Bush shrugged off the back-and-forth Wednesday night, calling Trump’s comments part of “this weird little controversy that I’m not a big party to” before outlining his border security plan and reiterating that he supports a path to legal status for illegal immigrants.”

    Weird little controversy that he’s not a party to? Didn’t he make himself a party to it by jumping in to bash Trump for his comments.

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  29. SFG says:
    @Anonymous
    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    Yup. The richer you are, the more likely you are to benefit from immigration. That’s why I oppose it. It benefits the wealthy at the expense of the native working classes who have to compete with the immigrants.

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  30. gruff says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    You know what's funny when you think about it: Frum and Barro, mentats of the mainstream on this, get to their conclusion that , despite Trump loudly and repeatedly reminding voters that Jeb is wrong on immigration, Iraq, and every other issue they care about, Trump is helpingJeb, because it's inconceivable to them that some odd duck could beat an establishment candidate - as if that's not what happened in '08 when a half-black guy with a Muslim name beat Hillary Clinton.

    I hope this usage of ‘mentat’ catches on.

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  31. @SFG
    No, support from immigration comes from whichever sectors of society benefit from it. In our case it's the businessmen who want cheap labor and the liberals who want brown votes.

    No, support from immigration comes from whichever sectors of society benefit from it. In our case it’s the businessmen who want cheap labor and the liberals who want brown votes.

    And how is that supposed to contradict my point? You just cited two parasitic endeavors.

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    A lot of the businessmen who support immigration are themselves talented and productive. It's not so easy as good Americans against lazy bad Americans. A lot of quite effective people, society's winners, like to further fatten themselves by screwing over the losers.

    Of course, many immigration supporters are pure parasites as well.
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  32. Sorry Jeb, but you can’t talk credibly about the “rule of law” on this matter when, according to your previous statements, breaking said rule of law is “an act of love.”

    And yes, Trump has definitely hit a nerve with some in the elite GOP commentariat. Michael Medved is spending a lot of time on his show these days bashing Trump, which can’t be good for his ratings; not because the listeners disagree, but because 3 hours a day, 5 days a week of “Trump is a horrible, shitty person who is ruining the GOP” is BORING. Jonah Goldberg is clutching his pearls and getting the vapors, and Chas. Krauthammer is likening Trump to a loudmouth on a bar stool. Krauthammer obviously views people who are immigration restrictionists as uncouth proles, not realizing that a large slice of the GOP bloc is made up of, well, prole whites. This fits in with Limbaugh’s theory that the GOP establishment is embarrassed of its own voters.

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    This fits in with Limbaugh’s theory that the GOP establishment is embarrassed of its own voters.

    You see this a good bit amongst people like One STDEV and Half Sigma/Bitch of the Blogosphere. They write off prole whites like garbage.
    , @Jefferson
    NASCAR wants to prohibit it's White fans from bringing the Confederate flag to it's events. They want a ban on displays of the Confederate flag. Banning the Confederate flag is not going to convert more Black people into becoming NASCAR fans. Blacks people will always avoid NASCAR like the plague as long as the line up of NASCAR drivers is as White as the cast of the Canadian show Second City Television.

    The only way NASCAR will gain a large Black following is if they produce the Black female version of Danica Patrick or the Black male version of Jeff Gordon. Good luck with that.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Krauthammer is a proud neocon. He embraces the term.
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  33. MarkinLA says:
    @Anonymous
    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders .

    How many of them live around these immigrants?

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  34. This Sanchez fellow claims that the shooting was an accident. How can you condemn an entire class of people over a single unfortunate incident that was an accident?

    There was very little detail offered about this incident when it happened. In the effort to protect the reputation of immigrants with inadequate firearms training, the initial reports had me under the impression that this shooting was the same deal as the ISIS terrorist attack on a tourist beach in Tunisia. I had not idea that this was accidental.

    Who was he shooting at, anyway? Was he is the rough part of town where drug dealers need to shoot their weapons in self defense or to protect their reputations? Did the bullet “crest” one of those famous San Francisco hills and then strike this poor woman in the tourist area thousands of yards away? Should the city put up barriers like they do around urban freeways to keep noise out of the neighborhood?

    How do your say, “Don’t point your gun without a clear sight line to a backstop” in Spanish?

    There are just so many questions that an Inquiring Mind needs answered . . .

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  35. SFG says:
    @ben tillman

    No, support from immigration comes from whichever sectors of society benefit from it. In our case it’s the businessmen who want cheap labor and the liberals who want brown votes.
     
    And how is that supposed to contradict my point? You just cited two parasitic endeavors.

    A lot of the businessmen who support immigration are themselves talented and productive. It’s not so easy as good Americans against lazy bad Americans. A lot of quite effective people, society’s winners, like to further fatten themselves by screwing over the losers.

    Of course, many immigration supporters are pure parasites as well.

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    The strain of Ayn Rand thought has no problem with the losers 'getting theirs'. That's the essence of the Kemp/Ryan position.

    It's like 19th century Social Darwinism in reverse.
    , @Stan D Mute

    A lot of the businessmen who support immigration are themselves talented and productive
     
    If they support importing lower cost (ie illegal and/or H1-B) labor then they are parasitic. They may be "successful" parasites. They may be very "talented" at replacing Americans with taxpayer subsidized immigrants. And this may all be very "productive" for their own personal net worth. But it is parasitic to the nation.

    The only way we get rid of these invaders is to increase criminal penalties against employers and enforce those penalties. There should be a mandatory minimum 5yr prison term for employment of illegal invaders (increased for having larger numbers of them), a $50,000 fine per illegal, and $10,000 cash reward for anonymous tips leading to conviction. Just like with illegal drugs, as long as there is profit, people will continue doing it. We must make the penalties exceed the profits.
    , @Clyde

    A lot of the businessmen who support immigration are themselves talented and productive. It’s not so easy as good Americans against lazy bad Americans. A lot of quite effective people, society’s winners, like to further fatten themselves by screwing over the losers.
     
    By excessive money printing the Federal Reserve distorts price discovery. Same thing with the flood of legal/illegal immigrants. It distorts the price discovery of labor. Meaning many of the businessmen you mention are actually not so "talented and productive" and will go bankrupt without this ever increasing supply of imported cheap labor. Examples will be wineries, restaurants and hotels/motels.

    Immigrant entrepreneurs are praised these days. However:
    Many/most are successful because they are the legal immigrant fronts for cash businesses that employ illegals from the same 3rd world nation. Example would be a legal Guatemalan roofing contractor running a crew of illegal Guatemalans he can underpay because he pays them in cash. (translation: tax evasion) This contractor (+crew) might find his own roofing jobs or more commonly sub-contracts to an established Anglo roofing company that has been around forever that takes care of all the insurance, bonding, permits etc. And btw this Anglo contractor cannot be accused of hiring illegal aliens. He does so indirectly. Donald Trump's businesses are often in this one step removed position.

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  36. Kylie says:

    “Caitalina”? Lol!

    Reminds me of the H. James novella, The Reverberator, in which the reporter for the eponymous scandal sheet is named “George Flack”.

    I pray you don’t quit your day job. I will not be able to survive this coming election year if you do.

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    “Caitalina”? Lol!

    The two bushes.
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  37. rod1963 says:
    @International Jew
    The media is giving Trump lots of free coverage, which tells me that they agree with the commenters here who have argued Trump hurts the GOP. If a calm, rational immigration patriot, like Tom Tancredo, were to toss his hat into the ring, we'd hear nothing but crickets chirping.

    Either that or he'd become too huge to ignore. But his previous, brief, run didn't get very far.

    You’re joking right?

    The last person to have a calm and rational discussion about illegal immigration was Lou Dobbs and was demonized by Hispanic racist groups like La Raza, Mecha, white leftists and ultimately fired from his position on CNN.

    Trump’s statements were blunt but hardly over the top. But I suspect to many sensitive whites they were far too intense for them.

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  38. @International Jew
    The media is giving Trump lots of free coverage, which tells me that they agree with the commenters here who have argued Trump hurts the GOP. If a calm, rational immigration patriot, like Tom Tancredo, were to toss his hat into the ring, we'd hear nothing but crickets chirping.

    Either that or he'd become too huge to ignore. But his previous, brief, run didn't get very far.

    When Trump says he loves this country, I believe him.

    Trump is different from the other candidates in being rather more formidable and capable of affecting things. He has independence and is right in saying that, unlike others, he has built and achieved success in many things.

    The media attacks him to blunt his campaign. If they did not, he would still be getting interviews with minor reporters, going on the campaign trail, getting his message out. Regular people would see him and think, there’s rich and successful Donald Trump from popular culture and TV, and he speaks to my heart/makes sense.

    Some nobody politico would not be able to do these sort of things with any consequence and therefore would still remain safely a nobody.

    So if the media establishment don’t want him or his ideas to succeed they have to address them. Witness the early caricatures immediately coming out as a joke candidate. If people took Trump seriously and if he was serious then it would be quite dangerous for the establishment.

    The following mass flight from supposed racism would break any other candidate and the usual suspects. The opposing media and powers-that-be attempt to discredit him and his ideas right away, or else those ideas would gain traction.

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  39. Well looks like young ¿Jeb? is on the winning side.
    This was being trumpeted on late-night BBC radio a couple of days ago, probably old news to you lot.
    “The official confirmation had to wait until new population figures were released by the Census Bureau this summer. The new tally, released in late June, shows that as of July 1, 2014, about 14.99 million Latinos live in California, edging out the 14.92 million whites in the state.”

    http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-census-latinos-20150708-story.html

    As somebody once said, “Hasta la vista, baby”.

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  40. Svigor says:

    No one is illegal.

    The word you’re looking for is “criminal.” As in “criminal aliens,” “criminal infiltrators,” etc.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    I agree: we should always push granny under the bus once she gets too old and slow to compete and breed.

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    That you’re a liar who doesn’t understand logic?

    CNN does these Soledad O’Brien hour-long specials on racism in America, and yet we never get to hear from an actual racist. Obviously the media is terrified to allow such people access to the Megaphone.

    Probably, but they could always put that Klan guy from Stern’s show, or someone like him, behind a microphone.

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  41. Ok. I am little dismayed that this rather august group of readers of this blog is really missing the degree with which an incredible segment of voters is absolutely sick of the lack of opposition to key issues the Republican party has offered.

    Here, let me show you the degree of it. This is Ricky Vaughn on Twitter:

    https://twitter.com/Ricky_Vaughn99

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  42. Danindc says:
    @Anonymous
    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    This is true from my personal experience as well although without that id be inclined to disagree.

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    Anti immigration activists tend to be, as Derb put it, antisocial losers.

    Most of the arguments are based on numbers. And there are significant social of even legal penalties for saying the wrong thing.

    So wiser people with more to lose avoid the topic.
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  43. syonredux says:

    “You can love the Mexican culture, you can love your Mexican-American wife and also believe that we need to control the border,” Bush told the crowd. “This is a bizarre kind of idea that somehow you can have an affection for people in a different country and not think the rule of law should apply. This is ludicrous.”

    Note the careful phrasing: ” we need to control the border,” “and not think the rule of law should apply. ”

    Nothing in that statement implies a need to cut down on immigration from Latin America.Immigration just has to be lawful and controlled.I’m sure that JEB, in his heart of hearts, means that we should just change the law and allow unlimited immigration from Latin America.That way, the flood of Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos would be nice and legal.

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    To mainstream conservatism, in its deracinated form, the immigrant is more patriotic than we are, because they chose to come here.

    Defending the implicit community of pre-1965 America is not on their priority.
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  44. Maj. Kong says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    You know what's funny when you think about it: Frum and Barro, mentats of the mainstream on this, get to their conclusion that , despite Trump loudly and repeatedly reminding voters that Jeb is wrong on immigration, Iraq, and every other issue they care about, Trump is helpingJeb, because it's inconceivable to them that some odd duck could beat an establishment candidate - as if that's not what happened in '08 when a half-black guy with a Muslim name beat Hillary Clinton.

    Jeb could lose the Iowa Caucus, the NH primary, and the SC primary, but still be in the game, if the donors think he can win the blue state primaries.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/upshot/the-surprising-power-of-blue-state-republicans.html?_r=0

    A donor revolt against Jeb is the quickest way he goes down, the same for Hillary. If BushClinton ‘stay the course’ they will win a war of attrition.

    Jeb is further not the biggest threat to patriotic immigration reformers, Marco Rubio is. Jeb has no credibilty with the base, so even if he wins the primary, he’ll lose. Rubio is close enough to the CruzPaulLee bloc to gain enough of their support.

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    Jeb could lose the Iowa Caucus, the NH primary, and the SC primary, but still be in the game, if the donors think he can win the blue state primaries.
     
    That sounds a little like Giuliani's strategy last time he ran. In reality, you usually have to do well early to stay in the game. Maybe not win, but place or show, no?
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  45. Maj. Kong says:
    @syonredux

    “You can love the Mexican culture, you can love your Mexican-American wife and also believe that we need to control the border,” Bush told the crowd. “This is a bizarre kind of idea that somehow you can have an affection for people in a different country and not think the rule of law should apply. This is ludicrous.”
     
    Note the careful phrasing: " we need to control the border," "and not think the rule of law should apply. "

    Nothing in that statement implies a need to cut down on immigration from Latin America.Immigration just has to be lawful and controlled.I'm sure that JEB, in his heart of hearts, means that we should just change the law and allow unlimited immigration from Latin America.That way, the flood of Hispanic Amerinds and Mestizos would be nice and legal.

    To mainstream conservatism, in its deracinated form, the immigrant is more patriotic than we are, because they chose to come here.

    Defending the implicit community of pre-1965 America is not on their priority.

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  46. Maj. Kong says:
    @SFG
    A lot of the businessmen who support immigration are themselves talented and productive. It's not so easy as good Americans against lazy bad Americans. A lot of quite effective people, society's winners, like to further fatten themselves by screwing over the losers.

    Of course, many immigration supporters are pure parasites as well.

    The strain of Ayn Rand thought has no problem with the losers ‘getting theirs’. That’s the essence of the Kemp/Ryan position.

    It’s like 19th century Social Darwinism in reverse.

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  47. rod1963 says:

    Jebbie is a pretty much in last place, because he just can’t help saying s**t that drives people away from the Bush brand. From support of Common Core, Open borders. demanding that Americans work harder.

    The guy is a joke. But sadly he is what passes for a establishment candidate just like Romney, McCain and Dole before him.

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  49. AnAnon says:
    @Anonymous
    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    “All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border.” – its the other way around, Liberals have an average fertility of around 1.3, while conservatives are in the 2+ range.

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  50. @countenance
    "Trump is only in it to help Jeb!" is a canard I even hear from some of our people.

    Okay, so why is he taking Jeb! head on, on policy matters?

    “Trump is only in it to help Jeb!” is a canard I even hear from some of our people.

    Once again proving the left doesn’t have a monopoly on stupid!

    Trump making immigration THE issue for 2016 is devastating to a guy with a mestizo wife who speaks broken English. And looking at the demographics of Florida, nobody in their right mind could be convinced “El Jeb” has the slightest interest or intention of securing the border.

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    I can appreciate what Trump is doing to some extent.

    If you wanna draw attention, you have go for some hyperbole, sensationalism, exaggeration, and sky-is-falling-down scenario. I go for that too sometimes. It's the 'jeremiad' tradition.

    So, I can see the nature of his shtick.

    BUT, did he have to do it in such a way as to alienate ALL Mexicans and Mexican-Americans?

    While it's true that not enough Mexers for the GOP, it's gonna be much more difficult for the GOP if ALL Mexers vote against the GOP.

    Trump acted like a real dammy(dah-mmy).

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  51. @David In TN
    So the MSM, "Corporate America," GOP politicians, and the PGA are angry at Trump for taking a policy position based on fact. And these same characters aren't bothered in the least by the brutal murder of a young woman.

    Could George Orwell have imagined this?

    So the MSM, “Corporate America,” GOP politicians, and the PGA are angry at Trump for taking a policy position based on fact. And these same characters aren’t bothered in the least by the brutal murder of a young woman.

    Could George Orwell have imagined this?

    Of course they’re furious about Trump and his facts. In politics, one of the surest ways to assess the objective Truth of something is to observe the level of anger it elicits from the opposition. Nobody ever tries to censor lies.

    Orwell may not have foreseen the invasion of America and Europe by Africans, but he accurately foretold the ideological foundation and methods used in fomenting it and obfuscating the effects.

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  52. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Kylie
    "Caitalina"? Lol!

    Reminds me of the H. James novella, The Reverberator, in which the reporter for the eponymous scandal sheet is named "George Flack".

    I pray you don't quit your day job. I will not be able to survive this coming election year if you do.

    “Caitalina”? Lol!

    The two bushes.

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  53. @SFG
    A lot of the businessmen who support immigration are themselves talented and productive. It's not so easy as good Americans against lazy bad Americans. A lot of quite effective people, society's winners, like to further fatten themselves by screwing over the losers.

    Of course, many immigration supporters are pure parasites as well.

    A lot of the businessmen who support immigration are themselves talented and productive

    If they support importing lower cost (ie illegal and/or H1-B) labor then they are parasitic. They may be “successful” parasites. They may be very “talented” at replacing Americans with taxpayer subsidized immigrants. And this may all be very “productive” for their own personal net worth. But it is parasitic to the nation.

    The only way we get rid of these invaders is to increase criminal penalties against employers and enforce those penalties. There should be a mandatory minimum 5yr prison term for employment of illegal invaders (increased for having larger numbers of them), a $50,000 fine per illegal, and $10,000 cash reward for anonymous tips leading to conviction. Just like with illegal drugs, as long as there is profit, people will continue doing it. We must make the penalties exceed the profits.

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  54. Kauai says:
    @Keith Vaz
    "more comprehensive view on immigration reform".

    Ah, I see what is going on here. People are conflating the adjectives 'comprehensive' and 'partial'.

    And it is an easy bank shot from comprehensive to partial to partisan, vaguely reminiscent of Tinker to Evans to Chance (you youngsters may have to Google that one).

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  55. Bill says:
    @Anonymous
    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    Keep it up. Exactly like that. In exactly that tone. Could you please try to get a job on national TV? That would be even more helpful.

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  56. Bill says:
    @International Jew
    The media is giving Trump lots of free coverage, which tells me that they agree with the commenters here who have argued Trump hurts the GOP. If a calm, rational immigration patriot, like Tom Tancredo, were to toss his hat into the ring, we'd hear nothing but crickets chirping.

    Either that or he'd become too huge to ignore. But his previous, brief, run didn't get very far.

    Hurting the GOP == good.

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  57. Whiskey says: • Website

    Trump is the natural outgrowth of White Identity Politics. Liberals, the media, government, etc. all assumed enough female-driven hectoring about how awful and unsexy beta White males are would be enough to prevent White Identity Politics. But they forgot — in the new sexual free for all, being Alpha is everything, and I mean EVERYTHING to men, and being beta is death. So being the baddest, most “evil,” most outlaw man around is like sexual catnip.

    MeCHA, La Raza, the NAACP, New Black Panthers, Nation of Islam, Asian lobbying groups, all can exist but there can be none for Whites? Particularly lower class or middle class Whites? And that will hold as Whites are rapidly (in California already) sliding to minority status?

    Probably one of THE most important commenters out there is Roissy/Heartiste. Why? Because other than Devlin he is the only one focusing on family formation by not just affordability but by sexual selection. Which has changed rapidly. Women don’t meet mates by family, church, friends, workplace anymore. But by bars and online. That puts a premium on male sexiness which means among other things, fame, charisma, dominance, outlaw tingles.

    Trump has all that. As much as the media blasts him, he becomes the real life character that actor James Spader plays on the Blacklist. The bad, sexy dad who does things the uptight, limited government people can’t and won’t, in a corrupt and worse society.

    Trump is not only the most appealing character in the Republican field, he is the strongest. Because society is NOT a beta male marriage society anymore, but one dominated by short-term, chaotic, hook up culture where charisma and dominance count and there is no shame, no guilt, nothing of that sort. Trump is the flipside to Kim Kardashian, where fame is the only thing that matters. [And he's well defined as "the boss" for decades, the media can't redefine him for good or ill.]

    As for Sanders, my guess is that Obama has someone he will spring on the party in a corrupt, backroom deal like the unsealing of Jeri Ryan’s divorce papers, his house purchase, his birth records, his ObamaCare, his ObamaTrade, and other dealings. Obama and his people benefit from having their fingers on government decisions. For example he did not kill fracking “to save the planet and stop global warming.” Nope, he just killed pipelines so his buddy Warren Buffett could make money from Burlington Northern taking most of the oil produced via fracking by expensive freight trains (which periodically derail and explode). I don’t see Obama and his people giving that up to say, Hillary! or Bernie Sanders.

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  58. @asdfsdfd
    Its gonna get worse for Jeb. The picture that you posted of Jeb and his wife is the first time I have seen his wife.

    The perception that I get is a short, pudgy, confused cleaning lady. Jeb's best strategy might be to deport her until the election is over.

    On the other hand Trump has a really hot and young looking wife. It will be interesting to see the Trump appearances and how he uses his wife to draw contrasts with other candidates.

    In today's kardashian-america era voters are quire shallow, and most receive their information through some visual media. How will the contrasting perception of wives of these two candidates influence the public?

    The perception that I get is a short, pudgy, confused cleaning lady. Jeb’s best strategy might be to deport her until the election is over.

    Now that you mention it, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen her in real life. She was pushing a big yellow Rubbermaid cart on the seventh floor of the Miami Beach Loews and replacing the little bottles of hand lotion and boxes of Kleenex in each room. I distinctly recall that the cart was taller than she was. At least she was doing her part when “El Jeb” ran into money trouble during his years in Miami.

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  59. @asdfsdfd
    Its gonna get worse for Jeb. The picture that you posted of Jeb and his wife is the first time I have seen his wife.

    The perception that I get is a short, pudgy, confused cleaning lady. Jeb's best strategy might be to deport her until the election is over.

    On the other hand Trump has a really hot and young looking wife. It will be interesting to see the Trump appearances and how he uses his wife to draw contrasts with other candidates.

    In today's kardashian-america era voters are quire shallow, and most receive their information through some visual media. How will the contrasting perception of wives of these two candidates influence the public?

    … currently has #37 in a series of really hot trophy wives …

    FIFY!

    PS He’s had more wives than toupées. He adds gaiety to the nation. Excellent fellow, mad as a brush.

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  60. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Jeb bush is married to a dwarf with no education and raised three Mexican criminals. All his kids have been arrested. Go away jeb.

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  61. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    Not every citizen is going to be especially ‘talented’.

    Most people are by definition – average…they are still citizens, and their leaders should be working hard to protect their interests.

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  62. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Jeb bush will have too much baggage with this women. Spends too much money then lies.

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  63. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Dave Pinsen
    You know what's funny when you think about it: Frum and Barro, mentats of the mainstream on this, get to their conclusion that , despite Trump loudly and repeatedly reminding voters that Jeb is wrong on immigration, Iraq, and every other issue they care about, Trump is helpingJeb, because it's inconceivable to them that some odd duck could beat an establishment candidate - as if that's not what happened in '08 when a half-black guy with a Muslim name beat Hillary Clinton.

    The real question is not if Trump could win…I suppose there is a very slight possibility.

    The question is, does Trump even want to win. He seems to rear his head around election time and create a lot of publicity for himself, and he probably highlights some issues that are important to him, but do you honestly think he even wants to be president for 4 or 8 years?

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    do you honestly think he even wants to be president for 4 or 8 years?
     
    He'd probably enjoy that, yes. He loves attention.

    The really tough question is, why is he willing to say things that are on course to ruin him as a businessman? One "respectable" business after another is blacklisting him, and mercy is unlikely even if he quits the race and does penance.

    Here are some theories, in decreasing order, IMHO, of plausibility:

    1. He was broke already, going into the race, and hopes all this publicity will somehow help him get back on his feet after his next bankruptcy.

    2. He's so crazy he thinks he'll win the election.

    3. He's a patriot, and sincerely wants to save the country.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    First, and contra Frum and Barro, Trump doesn't have to win to wreck Jeb. All he has to do is stay in for the debates, and stay high enough in the polls to be included. He can do fatal damage to him there. If anyone else is helped by Trump, my guess would be Walker, if he's smart enough to follow Trump's lead on immigration (Cruz already is following Trump's lead, but I don't think he has the gravitas to win now).

    As to whether Trump wants to win, you raise an interesting question. He is, after all, the only candidate who would have to move into less luxurious housing if we wins. I would say that, how ever Trump felt about winning when he started this campaign, if anything, he's leaning more toward wanting it now that the media and Corporate America (and now, the government) have been salting the earth behind him.

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  64. Jefferson says:

    Speaking of Jeb Bush’s love for Illegal Immigrants, here is an Illegal Immigrant related news story. New MTV show publicly shames White people for simply being born White. It is hosted by an Illegal Immigrant named Jose Antonio Vargas.

    http://www.infowars.com/new-mtv-show-publicly-shames-white-people-for-what-theyve-done-in-america/

    The SWPL in this video are an extremely pathetic bunch. They remind me of that line Steve Martin says in “The Jerk” while he is crying YOU MEAN I’M GOING TO STAY THIS COLOR?

    The SWPL in this video are oozing with self hatred and low self esteem. You would never find this level of self hatred and low self esteem among Blacks.

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  65. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Ed
    To be fair, this is something of a cheap shot at Jeb Bush. I've never heard of an immigration restrictionist who has called for banning Americans from marrying foreigners, or not letting foreign spouses of Americans to immigrate. I've also not heard of any other country that does this. I've seen lots of arguments about ending chain migration by relatives, but they generally stop at primary family members and are aimed at stopping people immigrating to this country themselves, then bringing their families in.

    And there are people who marry to get green cards! But its not inconsistent to want to reduce immigration to the US and to still favor letting in spouses, or to marry a foreigner yourself. Its not inconsistent to be an immigrant yourself and favor reducing immigration.

    Trump’s wife is a foreigner…But I doubt she’s going to be affecting Donald’s policy on immigration

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    Two out of three of Trump's wives have been immigrants, as was his mother, and his father was the children of immigrants -- so he can say he doesn't like immigrants?
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  66. Tiny Duck says:

    None of you jerk losers have kids.

    So, what do you guys care about the future about the country.

    Leave those thoughts for the people who were good enough to have offspring and contribute to society.

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    *I* have kids. So I certainly care about the future of my country.
    , @Kauai
    One of my kids says that a Trump is the only politician that seems to be telling the truth.
    The other one doesn't care enough yet.
    , @out of Macon
    I have four children.
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  67. Jefferson says:

    A panel of registered voters on Fox And Friends were asked by Frank Luntz what they think of Donald Trump. It was interesting to see 1 Black woman defend Donald Trump and say he is not racist and that he is right that America needs to close the borders and stop Illegal Immigration. And than you have a bunch of SWPL types saying that Donald Trump is racist and that America is a nation of immigrants. It was like The Twilight Zone, lol. The rare case where the Black woman is more right wing than most of the Whites in the panel.

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  68. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    Sorry Jeb, but you can't talk credibly about the "rule of law" on this matter when, according to your previous statements, breaking said rule of law is "an act of love."

    And yes, Trump has definitely hit a nerve with some in the elite GOP commentariat. Michael Medved is spending a lot of time on his show these days bashing Trump, which can't be good for his ratings; not because the listeners disagree, but because 3 hours a day, 5 days a week of "Trump is a horrible, shitty person who is ruining the GOP" is BORING. Jonah Goldberg is clutching his pearls and getting the vapors, and Chas. Krauthammer is likening Trump to a loudmouth on a bar stool. Krauthammer obviously views people who are immigration restrictionists as uncouth proles, not realizing that a large slice of the GOP bloc is made up of, well, prole whites. This fits in with Limbaugh's theory that the GOP establishment is embarrassed of its own voters.

    This fits in with Limbaugh’s theory that the GOP establishment is embarrassed of its own voters.

    You see this a good bit amongst people like One STDEV and Half Sigma/Bitch of the Blogosphere. They write off prole whites like garbage.

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  69. Jefferson says:
    @Sgt. Joe Friday
    Sorry Jeb, but you can't talk credibly about the "rule of law" on this matter when, according to your previous statements, breaking said rule of law is "an act of love."

    And yes, Trump has definitely hit a nerve with some in the elite GOP commentariat. Michael Medved is spending a lot of time on his show these days bashing Trump, which can't be good for his ratings; not because the listeners disagree, but because 3 hours a day, 5 days a week of "Trump is a horrible, shitty person who is ruining the GOP" is BORING. Jonah Goldberg is clutching his pearls and getting the vapors, and Chas. Krauthammer is likening Trump to a loudmouth on a bar stool. Krauthammer obviously views people who are immigration restrictionists as uncouth proles, not realizing that a large slice of the GOP bloc is made up of, well, prole whites. This fits in with Limbaugh's theory that the GOP establishment is embarrassed of its own voters.

    NASCAR wants to prohibit it’s White fans from bringing the Confederate flag to it’s events. They want a ban on displays of the Confederate flag. Banning the Confederate flag is not going to convert more Black people into becoming NASCAR fans. Blacks people will always avoid NASCAR like the plague as long as the line up of NASCAR drivers is as White as the cast of the Canadian show Second City Television.

    The only way NASCAR will gain a large Black following is if they produce the Black female version of Danica Patrick or the Black male version of Jeff Gordon. Good luck with that.

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    A part-black kid won one of NASCAR's minor league events in 2013:

    http://takimag.com/article/nature_nurture_and_nascar_steve_sailer/print#axzz3fTaCiWaH

    Of course, his Twitter handle @BubbaWallace describes his general affect.

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  70. The best thing about Trump is that he has his own money; and lots of it. This means that the usual carrots and sticks used by the powers that be in the Republican Party are ineffective against him. This is the opposite of Jeb Bush’s strategy which was to lock down all the money in the Republican party quickly and they shut up the popular opposition. That might have worked well against a Scott Walker but not against the Donald.

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    The best thing about Trump is that he has his own money; and lots of it.
     
    I'm not so sure. He controls billions of dollars of assets, yes. But he's highly leveraged; his net worth is the difference between two very large numbers, both on the same order of magnitude.
    , @Jefferson
    "The best thing about Trump is that he has his own money; and lots of it. This means that the usual carrots and sticks used by the powers that be in the Republican Party are ineffective against him. This is the opposite of Jeb Bush’s strategy which was to lock down all the money in the Republican party quickly and they shut up the popular opposition. That might have worked well against a Scott Walker but not against the Donald."

    Donald Trump is so wealthy that he makes Jeb Bush look working class in comparison. Heck Donald Trump is wealthier than the entire Bush family net worth combined.

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  71. Jefferson says:

    Without blue collar Cisgender White males supporting NASCAR with their dollars, NASCAR would go out of business and be filing for bankruptcy. There are simply not enough Vibrantly Diverse fans of that sport to financially put NASCAR in the black. The only reason they make a profit and are not in the financial red is because of “Cis Scum Racist White Males”. The corporate suits at NASCAR are an extremely ungrateful bunch who bite the hands that feed them.

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    Jesus Christ Jefferson, do you ever get tired of posting multiple times one after the other, oftentimes when you're not even replying to anyone?
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  72. @Anonymous
    The USA is finished. The final global credit bubble is melting down and the carnage will be epic. We are in worse shape than Greece and all of the band-aids are coming off.

    So what if Trump, Bush or Clinton wins. You can't fix America this time because you can't fix stupid. The new demographics are S-T-U-P-I-D.

    And it's not like we can soldier on as a new Brazil. The only reason Brazil clings to Second World status is because of the First World engine of prosperity which has been anchored by the linchpin USA.

    The only reason Brazil clings to Second World status

    Brasil is third-world. The “second world” referred to the Communist bloc.

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    Brasil is third-world. The “second world” referred to the Communist bloc.

     

    Brazil (let's keep it English here) is both First and Third World. They do build planes, you know. That stay up. In American airspace.

    Now, with a Slavic lefty in power, they qualify as Second World as well.

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  73. Jeb Bush per the BBC

    “Americans ‘need to work longer hours’”

    Story here:
    More Hours

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  74. rod1963 says:

    You know Trump’s getting under the skin of the GOP establishment when they trot out a terminally corrupt and treacherous McCain to criticize him.

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/07/09/mccain-overwhelming-majority-of-arizonans-would-disagree-with-trumps-offensive-rhetoric/

    The fact they rolled out this major league maniac to attack Trump, Trump should take it as a badge of honor.

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  75. Rob McX says:
    @asdfsdfd
    Its gonna get worse for Jeb. The picture that you posted of Jeb and his wife is the first time I have seen his wife.

    The perception that I get is a short, pudgy, confused cleaning lady. Jeb's best strategy might be to deport her until the election is over.

    On the other hand Trump has a really hot and young looking wife. It will be interesting to see the Trump appearances and how he uses his wife to draw contrasts with other candidates.

    In today's kardashian-america era voters are quire shallow, and most receive their information through some visual media. How will the contrasting perception of wives of these two candidates influence the public?

    Mrs Bush looked better in older pictures, e.g. this one from ten years ago. The thing I’d like to know is, has anyone ever witnessed her speaking English? I can’t see any evidence of it. That’s odd for the wife of a man who served eight years as governor of a prominent state.

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  76. Jefferson says:

    The vote for the lesser of 2 evils argument will not really fly if Jeb Bush gets the nomination, because he is not really politically different from Hillary Clinton. In a national election I predict Hillary would defeat Jeb in an even bigger landslide than Hussein beat Mitt. One of the reasons I say this is because Laura Ingraham mentioned on Fox News that Conservatives are always calling into her radio show saying that if Jeb gets the nomination they will sit out the 2016 election.

    Jeb Bush turns off Conservatives even more than Mitt Romney does, especially since his last name is Bush. At least Mitt’s last name is not associated with something that is toxic. A lot of Conservatives felt like they got stabbed in the back during Dubya’s 8 years in office. They felt Dubya took their support for him for granted. They felt Dubya treated the people who voted for him like a red headed step child. He wasn’t the fiscal Conservative that he claimed he was. Jeb being a Bush is guilty by association and of course his views on common core and immigration makes Conservatives despise him even more.

    George W. Bush did nothing about sanctuary cities for Illegal Immigrants during his 8 years in office.

    If Jeb gets the nomination, vote for The Constitution Party. I know The Constitution Party has no chance of winning the presidential election, but just vote for them on principal. A protest vote, as an F you to Jeb.

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    At least Mitt’s last name is not associated with something that is toxic.
     
    Unless you count the Kenosha Cadillac.
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  77. Jefferson says:
    @Anonymous
    The USA is finished. The final global credit bubble is melting down and the carnage will be epic. We are in worse shape than Greece and all of the band-aids are coming off.

    So what if Trump, Bush or Clinton wins. You can't fix America this time because you can't fix stupid. The new demographics are S-T-U-P-I-D.

    And it's not like we can soldier on as a new Brazil. The only reason Brazil clings to Second World status is because of the First World engine of prosperity which has been anchored by the linchpin USA.

    “And it’s not like we can soldier on as a new Brazil. The only reason Brazil clings to Second World status is because of the First World engine of prosperity which has been anchored by the linchpin USA.”

    The reason Brazil is not as poor as Haiti is because they still have a large enough White population and also because in Brazil Mulattoes who look like Eric Holder outnumber people of predominantly Sub Saharan African descent like Michael Brown.

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  78. @Dave Pinsen
    You know what's funny when you think about it: Frum and Barro, mentats of the mainstream on this, get to their conclusion that , despite Trump loudly and repeatedly reminding voters that Jeb is wrong on immigration, Iraq, and every other issue they care about, Trump is helpingJeb, because it's inconceivable to them that some odd duck could beat an establishment candidate - as if that's not what happened in '08 when a half-black guy with a Muslim name beat Hillary Clinton.

    Jeeze I wish I’d thought of “mentats of the mainstream”.

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    Thanks. Guess it helps that I'm reading one of the Dune books now.
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  79. @neutral
    This is a question one cannot ask in polite society, but I really have to ask, what is the deal with Bush marrying that woman ? I get that he that he loves Mexico and almost wants to become Mexican, but there are some very attractive Mexican woman out there, why did he pick her ? Surely with his family connections he could have easily married someone from a Telenovella ?

    They say that men date women that remind them of their mother. Jeb married the first woman he met who reminded him of his Mexican nanny.

    Clearly he thinks of the nanny as his real mother.

    I don’t see any other explanation.

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    They say that men date women that remind them of their mother. Jeb married the first woman he met who reminded him of his Mexican nanny.
     
    Talk about imprinting! You might be right or partly. Never heard that theory before////// My Lord, he must be a good 15" taller, same as his Mexican nanny. The NE Brahmin George H W Bush family had lots of Mexican household help/gardeners/gofers etc in 1960s onward in Houston. I doubt Barbara Bush cooked much so in come the Mexican cooks and the family is eating Mexican fare part of the time. Enculturation and in TransEthnicJeb's case, infatuation. What a mess!
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  80. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    Yeah it does – mass immigration is deflationary (as should be completely obvious by now).

    It’s true it doesn’t hurt them *first*; it hurts less talented people first which if you define citizenship as having an implicit duty of care to fellow citizens makes them traitors.

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  81. Jaggers says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Trump is pretty hard to ignore--he's been a huge media personality for decades. It's unfortunate that "a calm, rational immigration patriot like Tom Tancredo" is completely ignored, but maybe that's because his presentation is so hard to refute. It's similar to the problem with Jared Taylor; he's so calm and reasonable no one wants to give him any air time. Come to think of it, you never see the most famous white racist, David Duke, on TV either. Wouldn't you think that with the constant talk about racism on TV they'd want to interview a self-proclaimed white racist? CNN does these Soledad O'Brien hour-long specials on racism in America, and yet we never get to hear from an actual racist. Obviously the media is terrified to allow such people access to the Megaphone.

    Trump is actually a better spokesman than Taylor or Tancredo. He simply has more charisma, he’s more the happy warrior.

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  82. @Danindc
    This is true from my personal experience as well although without that id be inclined to disagree.

    Anti immigration activists tend to be, as Derb put it, antisocial losers.

    Most of the arguments are based on numbers. And there are significant social of even legal penalties for saying the wrong thing.

    So wiser people with more to lose avoid the topic.

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  83. @anonymous
    The real question is not if Trump could win…I suppose there is a very slight possibility.

    The question is, does Trump even want to win. He seems to rear his head around election time and create a lot of publicity for himself, and he probably highlights some issues that are important to him, but do you honestly think he even wants to be president for 4 or 8 years?

    do you honestly think he even wants to be president for 4 or 8 years?

    He’d probably enjoy that, yes. He loves attention.

    The really tough question is, why is he willing to say things that are on course to ruin him as a businessman? One “respectable” business after another is blacklisting him, and mercy is unlikely even if he quits the race and does penance.

    Here are some theories, in decreasing order, IMHO, of plausibility:

    1. He was broke already, going into the race, and hopes all this publicity will somehow help him get back on his feet after his next bankruptcy.

    2. He’s so crazy he thinks he’ll win the election.

    3. He’s a patriot, and sincerely wants to save the country.

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  84. @Prof. Woland
    The best thing about Trump is that he has his own money; and lots of it. This means that the usual carrots and sticks used by the powers that be in the Republican Party are ineffective against him. This is the opposite of Jeb Bush's strategy which was to lock down all the money in the Republican party quickly and they shut up the popular opposition. That might have worked well against a Scott Walker but not against the Donald.

    The best thing about Trump is that he has his own money; and lots of it.

    I’m not so sure. He controls billions of dollars of assets, yes. But he’s highly leveraged; his net worth is the difference between two very large numbers, both on the same order of magnitude.

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    Trump's wealth goes up and down. He was pretty close to broke in 1991.

    On the other hand, he's still around after 30 years in the public eye. My impression is that he's very good at the landlord job and that guys with more money will bring him in on property development deals because he's good at making lots and lots of small decisions about what the market will pay for.
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  85. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Realist
    It's just politics. The next President will be a brainless asshole.

    It’s just politics. The next President will be a brainless asshole.

    Unfortunately you are certainly right.

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  86. Fox News was ragging on Bernie Sanders. They were complaining that he’s starting to sound like “Jeff Sessions” on immigration. They criticized Sanders for mentioning the impact of immigration on low-wage workers.

    2016 is shaping up to be an interesting election, with immigration skeptics coming up on both sides.

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    "JohnnyWalker123 says:

    Fox News was ragging on Bernie Sanders. They were complaining that he’s starting to sound like “Jeff Sessions” on immigration. They criticized Sanders for mentioning the impact of immigration on low-wage workers."

    Interesting. Who was complaining about him and/or on which show?

    , @Billy Chav
    Well then if Bernie doesn't get the nomination he can run as a third party candidate. National Socialist or something.
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  87. Jefferson says:

    Karl Rove is bashing Donald Trump on Greta’s show. If you are a Republican and Karl Rove hates you, than you must be doing something right. Karl Rove is the Bush family’s dirty henchmen. He is another dirty shill for cheap 3rd world labor.

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    Jefferson says:

    "He is another dirty shill for cheap 3rd world labor."

    Indeed. Rove is a dirty shill for so many things.
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  88. Jefferson says:
    @Prof. Woland
    The best thing about Trump is that he has his own money; and lots of it. This means that the usual carrots and sticks used by the powers that be in the Republican Party are ineffective against him. This is the opposite of Jeb Bush's strategy which was to lock down all the money in the Republican party quickly and they shut up the popular opposition. That might have worked well against a Scott Walker but not against the Donald.

    “The best thing about Trump is that he has his own money; and lots of it. This means that the usual carrots and sticks used by the powers that be in the Republican Party are ineffective against him. This is the opposite of Jeb Bush’s strategy which was to lock down all the money in the Republican party quickly and they shut up the popular opposition. That might have worked well against a Scott Walker but not against the Donald.”

    Donald Trump is so wealthy that he makes Jeb Bush look working class in comparison. Heck Donald Trump is wealthier than the entire Bush family net worth combined.

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  89. The anti-immigration position was always popular with the public, but there was no one to represent immigration restrictionists. I always suspected that at some point, a charismatic and bold billionaire would come along and take up the anti-immigration cause. It was strange that up to this point, no one did. Finally, we’ve got someone who’s come up on the right.

    America may be an oligarchy, but it’s not a dictatorship. It’s still possible for the anti-immigration to find representation.

    By the way, Huckabee and Santorum have said good things about immigration restriction.

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    "The anti-immigration position was always popular with the public, but there was no one to represent immigration restrictionists. I always suspected that at some point, a charismatic and bold billionaire would come along and take up the anti-immigration cause. It was strange that up to this point, no one did. Finally, we’ve got someone who’s come up on the right.

    America may be an oligarchy, but it’s not a dictatorship. It’s still possible for the anti-immigration to find representation.

    By the way, Huckabee and Santorum have said good things about immigration restriction."

    Have you noticed that the closest Homosexual Republican candidate Lindsey Graham has nothing to say about the horrifying murder of Kate Steinle.

    That is because he supports sanctuary cities. I can't believe White people in South Carolina keep re-electing this RINO as senator. Aren't South Carolina Whites suppose to be some of the most far right wing Whites in the country? Aren't they suppose to be the complete political opposite of Minnesota Whites for example.
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  90. Mr. Anon says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Fox News was ragging on Bernie Sanders. They were complaining that he's starting to sound like "Jeff Sessions" on immigration. They criticized Sanders for mentioning the impact of immigration on low-wage workers.

    2016 is shaping up to be an interesting election, with immigration skeptics coming up on both sides.

    “JohnnyWalker123 says:

    Fox News was ragging on Bernie Sanders. They were complaining that he’s starting to sound like “Jeff Sessions” on immigration. They criticized Sanders for mentioning the impact of immigration on low-wage workers.”

    Interesting. Who was complaining about him and/or on which show?

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    Lisa Kennedy on Fox Business.
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  91. Mr. Anon says:

    “Koi Limper says:

    None of you jerk losers have kids.

    So, what do you guys care about the future about the country.

    Leave those thoughts for the people who were good enough to have offspring and contribute to society.”

    You don’t know anything about anyone who posts here, idiot.

    We do however know this about you. You’re an idiot.

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  92. Jefferson says:

    San Francisco has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country, so how come Illegal Alien criminal drug dealers/killers in my city like Juan Francisco Lopez Sanchez have easy access to guns to kill innocent American civilians? Oh yeah because gun control laws only punish law abiding gun owners.

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    According to several news organizations, the gun he used belonged to a federal agent (what agency, nobody says), and was stolen out of the agent's car.
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  93. Jefferson says:

    In sanctuary cities, Illegal Immigrants have more Libertarian civil liberties than American citizens who are legal gun owners.

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  94. @Anonymous
    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    Go to Silicon Valley. The “talented” are having their wages beaten down by H1b visa workers, while the cost of living has been inflated by the immigration-driven increased population density.

    Immigration screws almost everyone, other than financiers and inherited wealth.

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  95. Jefferson says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    The anti-immigration position was always popular with the public, but there was no one to represent immigration restrictionists. I always suspected that at some point, a charismatic and bold billionaire would come along and take up the anti-immigration cause. It was strange that up to this point, no one did. Finally, we've got someone who's come up on the right.

    America may be an oligarchy, but it's not a dictatorship. It's still possible for the anti-immigration to find representation.

    By the way, Huckabee and Santorum have said good things about immigration restriction.

    “The anti-immigration position was always popular with the public, but there was no one to represent immigration restrictionists. I always suspected that at some point, a charismatic and bold billionaire would come along and take up the anti-immigration cause. It was strange that up to this point, no one did. Finally, we’ve got someone who’s come up on the right.

    America may be an oligarchy, but it’s not a dictatorship. It’s still possible for the anti-immigration to find representation.

    By the way, Huckabee and Santorum have said good things about immigration restriction.”

    Have you noticed that the closest Homosexual Republican candidate Lindsey Graham has nothing to say about the horrifying murder of Kate Steinle.

    That is because he supports sanctuary cities. I can’t believe White people in South Carolina keep re-electing this RINO as senator. Aren’t South Carolina Whites suppose to be some of the most far right wing Whites in the country? Aren’t they suppose to be the complete political opposite of Minnesota Whites for example.

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  96. JSM says:
    @Tiny Duck
    None of you jerk losers have kids.

    So, what do you guys care about the future about the country.

    Leave those thoughts for the people who were good enough to have offspring and contribute to society.

    *I* have kids. So I certainly care about the future of my country.

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  97. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @anonymous-antiskynetist
    Jeeze I wish I'd thought of "mentats of the mainstream".

    Thanks. Guess it helps that I’m reading one of the Dune books now.

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  98. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @anonymous
    The real question is not if Trump could win…I suppose there is a very slight possibility.

    The question is, does Trump even want to win. He seems to rear his head around election time and create a lot of publicity for himself, and he probably highlights some issues that are important to him, but do you honestly think he even wants to be president for 4 or 8 years?

    First, and contra Frum and Barro, Trump doesn’t have to win to wreck Jeb. All he has to do is stay in for the debates, and stay high enough in the polls to be included. He can do fatal damage to him there. If anyone else is helped by Trump, my guess would be Walker, if he’s smart enough to follow Trump’s lead on immigration (Cruz already is following Trump’s lead, but I don’t think he has the gravitas to win now).

    As to whether Trump wants to win, you raise an interesting question. He is, after all, the only candidate who would have to move into less luxurious housing if we wins. I would say that, how ever Trump felt about winning when he started this campaign, if anything, he’s leaning more toward wanting it now that the media and Corporate America (and now, the government) have been salting the earth behind him.

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    I would say that, how ever Trump felt about winning when he started this campaign, if anything, he’s leaning more toward wanting it now that the media and Corporate America (and now, the government) have been salting the earth behind him.
     
    Another incentive to become president is that his businesses will be redeemed and benefit his children. Not that he will be managing them.
    We will not see rats like Univision and NBC sabotaging Donald Trump Inc.
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  99. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @anonymous
    Trump's wife is a foreigner...But I doubt she's going to be affecting Donald's policy on immigration

    Two out of three of Trump’s wives have been immigrants, as was his mother, and his father was the children of immigrants — so he can say he doesn’t like immigrants?

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  100. @Mr. Anon
    "JohnnyWalker123 says:

    Fox News was ragging on Bernie Sanders. They were complaining that he’s starting to sound like “Jeff Sessions” on immigration. They criticized Sanders for mentioning the impact of immigration on low-wage workers."

    Interesting. Who was complaining about him and/or on which show?

    Lisa Kennedy on Fox Business.

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  101. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Maj. Kong
    Jeb could lose the Iowa Caucus, the NH primary, and the SC primary, but still be in the game, if the donors think he can win the blue state primaries.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/upshot/the-surprising-power-of-blue-state-republicans.html?_r=0

    A donor revolt against Jeb is the quickest way he goes down, the same for Hillary. If BushClinton 'stay the course' they will win a war of attrition.

    Jeb is further not the biggest threat to patriotic immigration reformers, Marco Rubio is. Jeb has no credibilty with the base, so even if he wins the primary, he'll lose. Rubio is close enough to the CruzPaulLee bloc to gain enough of their support.

    Jeb could lose the Iowa Caucus, the NH primary, and the SC primary, but still be in the game, if the donors think he can win the blue state primaries.

    That sounds a little like Giuliani’s strategy last time he ran. In reality, you usually have to do well early to stay in the game. Maybe not win, but place or show, no?

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    That was before the SuperPAC era, recall how long Adelson kept Gingrich in the game.
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  102. @JohnnyWalker123
    Fox News was ragging on Bernie Sanders. They were complaining that he's starting to sound like "Jeff Sessions" on immigration. They criticized Sanders for mentioning the impact of immigration on low-wage workers.

    2016 is shaping up to be an interesting election, with immigration skeptics coming up on both sides.

    Well then if Bernie doesn’t get the nomination he can run as a third party candidate. National Socialist or something.

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  103. When I see Jeb and his wife together all I can think of is “De plane, boss! De plane!”

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    Especially the pic in this article:

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/msm-predictably-smearing-trump-over-illegals-civil-rights-laws-forces-him-to-hire
    , @Kylie

    When I see Jeb and his wife together all I can think of is “De plane, boss! De plane!”
     
    All I can think of is "If you want to wallow in it, fine. But keep it recreational, procreational strictly prohibited. And don't bring it home."
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  104. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    Sorry Jeb, but you can't talk credibly about the "rule of law" on this matter when, according to your previous statements, breaking said rule of law is "an act of love."

    And yes, Trump has definitely hit a nerve with some in the elite GOP commentariat. Michael Medved is spending a lot of time on his show these days bashing Trump, which can't be good for his ratings; not because the listeners disagree, but because 3 hours a day, 5 days a week of "Trump is a horrible, shitty person who is ruining the GOP" is BORING. Jonah Goldberg is clutching his pearls and getting the vapors, and Chas. Krauthammer is likening Trump to a loudmouth on a bar stool. Krauthammer obviously views people who are immigration restrictionists as uncouth proles, not realizing that a large slice of the GOP bloc is made up of, well, prole whites. This fits in with Limbaugh's theory that the GOP establishment is embarrassed of its own voters.

    Krauthammer is a proud neocon. He embraces the term.

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  105. @Trayvon Zimmerman
    When I see Jeb and his wife together all I can think of is "De plane, boss! De plane!"
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  106. @anonymous
    I'm just loving the way Trump is getting all these people riled up. They sure are over-reacting and getting screechy. Apparently he's hitting a sore spot. Whether he ends up going anywhere or not he's putting the issue in front of the public in a way that the mass of them can understand and relate to. Don't make things too philosophical or abstract and use concrete examples such as the recent illegal alien murderer as a lightening rod. People need to have a human face put on an issue. It'll be interesting to see what big guns they'll roll out against Trump.

    Trump is dumbing things way down and lying when he isn’t merely overinflating the issue. He and Teaparty are like a live version of Idiocracy and they’re *helping* amnesty supporters.

    I say that as someone who’s written 1000s of posts about immigration since 2002 and who was one of the two people selected to kick off Malkin’s old immigration blog.

    If you want to help Trump and much more importantly help the U.S., start a campaign to get him to use good arguments like

    http://24ahead.com/s/false-compassion

    If Trump had used that instead of smearing most Mexican illegal aliens as rapists and similar, then he would have had a very healthy impact. Instead, he’s helping amnesty supporters.

    We need people in the public eye to raise these issues. We just need them to do it in smart ways and not something straight outta Idiocracy.

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    We just need them to do it in smart ways and not something straight outta Idiocracy.

    There was a panelist on Great van Susteren's show tonight who sighed and said we'd be having a much more serious discussion about sanctuary cities right now if Trump wasn't out there grandstanding. BULLSHIT! Without Trump's grandstanding, sanctuary cities wouldn't be being discussed at all. Here's a question for The Donald: Ask why Obama sics his Justice Department on Arizona for trying to enforce immigration law, while ignoring 200-some US cities that offer sanctuary to illegals.

    Conservatism, Inc., is so terrified of anyone who makes waves. "Eww--that vulgar fellow is appealing to our disgusting base. Stop him, Jeb!"

    Jeb Bush is the most low-T candidate the GOP has ever fielded. All he needs to make the impression complete is to start wearing a bow tie.
    , @anon
    Oh please.

    We live in a world where the media blatantly lies about everything to do with race, crime and immigration.

    Nothing can be done until everyone treats the media with the contempt they deserve and if Trump helps with that then he's doing a great service.
    , @Anonymous
    You are just very weak.... A loser.

    You're fired.
    , @Jack Hanson
    "been writing since 2002" and with zero media saturation other than to pop up on a niche blog wanting to play "Everyone follow me on twitter".

    What we don't need more of is Asperger's sufferers unable to see the forest for the trees. You're replacing Whiskey as the biggest joker around here.
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  107. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Stan D Mute

    "Trump is only in it to help Jeb!” is a canard I even hear from some of our people.
     
    Once again proving the left doesn't have a monopoly on stupid!

    Trump making immigration THE issue for 2016 is devastating to a guy with a mestizo wife who speaks broken English. And looking at the demographics of Florida, nobody in their right mind could be convinced "El Jeb" has the slightest interest or intention of securing the border.

    I can appreciate what Trump is doing to some extent.

    If you wanna draw attention, you have go for some hyperbole, sensationalism, exaggeration, and sky-is-falling-down scenario. I go for that too sometimes. It’s the ‘jeremiad’ tradition.

    So, I can see the nature of his shtick.

    BUT, did he have to do it in such a way as to alienate ALL Mexicans and Mexican-Americans?

    While it’s true that not enough Mexers for the GOP, it’s gonna be much more difficult for the GOP if ALL Mexers vote against the GOP.

    Trump acted like a real dammy(dah-mmy).

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    BUT, did he have to do it in such a way as to alienate ALL Mexicans
     
    Yes.

    No more Mr. Nice Guy.

    Because it was this being Mr. Nice Guy, and "considering nuances" and "having sensitivity" and being a "color-blind conservative" hooey that has wrought this destruction to the nice country us American-Americans built.

    and Mexican-Americans?
     
    If *they* are butthurt, then that just shows they were never Americans at heart, at all, anyway.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    While it’s true that not enough Mexers for the GOP, it’s gonna be much more difficult for the GOP if ALL Mexers vote against the GOP.

    On the other hand, Trump will get a lot of white people who don't bother voting anymore to show up at the polls. And there are a LOT more of them than there are Mexicans who will ever vote Republican.
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  108. Svigor says:

    None of you jerk losers have kids.

    So, what do you guys care about the future about the country.

    Leave those thoughts for the people who were good enough to have offspring and contribute to society.

    Projection.

    We do however know this about you. You’re an idiot.

    We know he didn’t brag about having kids. Ergo, he has none.

    Jeb Bush per the BBC

    “Americans ‘need to work longer hours’”

    Jeb is a dipshit. At this rate, the damaging sound bites are going to be a two-sided CD by the time the race is really going.

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  109. L7's says:

    I’ve got 5 kids including identical twins which is a lot today for a non mormon white .whether I’m a loser is more debatable but as a breeder I say close the damn border!

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  110. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Maybe Trump is good for us whether he revives the GOP or destroys it.

    If he revives it by stoking genuine white passion, maybe there is hope for the GOP as the white party.

    If he kills it by making GOP the ‘eeeeeeeeeeevil party’ that can never win elections, then good riddance to the party that is run by Neocons and globalists.

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  111. Maj. Kong says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Jeb could lose the Iowa Caucus, the NH primary, and the SC primary, but still be in the game, if the donors think he can win the blue state primaries.
     
    That sounds a little like Giuliani's strategy last time he ran. In reality, you usually have to do well early to stay in the game. Maybe not win, but place or show, no?

    That was before the SuperPAC era, recall how long Adelson kept Gingrich in the game.

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    Gingrich won in South Carolina.
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  112. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Trump made the GOP the ‘rape culture’ party.

    So, who is doing all the raping

    Guillermo.

    I think your average American woman has more to fear from the likes of Willie Horton, and his last name isn’t Hortonez.

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  113. Glaivester says: • Website
    @maynard
    Trump will be done if any of his employees are found to be illegal immigrants. I'm sure the major newspapers on this one.

    Not if he explains that civil rights law makes it impossible not to hire illegals.

    https://www.vdare.com/articles/msm-predictably-smearing-trump-over-illegals-civil-rights-laws-forces-him-to-hire

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  114. Glaivester says: • Website
    @Maj. Kong
    That was before the SuperPAC era, recall how long Adelson kept Gingrich in the game.

    Gingrich won in South Carolina.

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  115. Glaivester says: • Website

    The difference in positions:

    Donald Trump: Screw illegal aliens!

    Jeb!: I screwed an illegal alien!

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    "Jeb!: I screwed an illegal alien!"

    Could have been the other way around.
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  116. A new poll of Republicans and independents shows Donald Trump ahead of Rand Paul nationally 18% to 10%, with Jeb Bush down at 9%. It also shows that Trump has a better favorability rating with independent voters than Bush: 40% favor Trump while only 31% favor Bush, while even with the anti-Trump media onslaught more independent voters have an unfavorable view of Bush than of Trump.

    Interestingly, Trump does better with independent voters than Republicans (21% to 15%) and slightly better with women than men (19% to 18%).

    If I was a Democrat I’d much rather face Bush than Trump in the general election.

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  117. Kauai says:
    @Tiny Duck
    None of you jerk losers have kids.

    So, what do you guys care about the future about the country.

    Leave those thoughts for the people who were good enough to have offspring and contribute to society.

    One of my kids says that a Trump is the only politician that seems to be telling the truth.
    The other one doesn’t care enough yet.

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  118. asdf says:

    Well, that diet seems to have made him physically better. He’s still, like his brother, a complete tool…

    “wife and also believe that we need to control the border,” Bush told the crowd. “This is a bizarre kind of idea that somehow you can have an affection for people in a different country and not think the rule of law should apply. This is ludicrous.””

    Questions that will not be allowed to be asked:

    Has the rule of law been observed? If so, why are there 10′s of millions of illegal immigrants in this country. If you are President, what would do that will prevent another 20 million illegal immigrants… Define control of the border – Should we complete the wall. Should we implement e-verify? Should we accept criminals who have been deported 5 times and been in jail for years as immigrants coming to America for love.. Etc.

    No more Bushes. No more Republican party. Over and out. I’d vote for anyone else first. Anyone.

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  119. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Glaivester
    The difference in positions:

    Donald Trump: Screw illegal aliens!

    Jeb!: I screwed an illegal alien!

    “Jeb!: I screwed an illegal alien!”

    Could have been the other way around.

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  120. JSM says:
    @Anon
    I can appreciate what Trump is doing to some extent.

    If you wanna draw attention, you have go for some hyperbole, sensationalism, exaggeration, and sky-is-falling-down scenario. I go for that too sometimes. It's the 'jeremiad' tradition.

    So, I can see the nature of his shtick.

    BUT, did he have to do it in such a way as to alienate ALL Mexicans and Mexican-Americans?

    While it's true that not enough Mexers for the GOP, it's gonna be much more difficult for the GOP if ALL Mexers vote against the GOP.

    Trump acted like a real dammy(dah-mmy).

    BUT, did he have to do it in such a way as to alienate ALL Mexicans

    Yes.

    No more Mr. Nice Guy.

    Because it was this being Mr. Nice Guy, and “considering nuances” and “having sensitivity” and being a “color-blind conservative” hooey that has wrought this destruction to the nice country us American-Americans built.

    and Mexican-Americans?

    If *they* are butthurt, then that just shows they were never Americans at heart, at all, anyway.

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  121. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “I agree: we should always push granny under the bus once she gets too old and slow to compete and breed.”

    We need to get away from all this third world messiness. In advanced countries that have a strong social compact, they do the civilized thing, the efficient thing, the thing with a lot less drama, which is to tie granny down on a mountain top in the middle of winter.

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  122. @Anon
    I can appreciate what Trump is doing to some extent.

    If you wanna draw attention, you have go for some hyperbole, sensationalism, exaggeration, and sky-is-falling-down scenario. I go for that too sometimes. It's the 'jeremiad' tradition.

    So, I can see the nature of his shtick.

    BUT, did he have to do it in such a way as to alienate ALL Mexicans and Mexican-Americans?

    While it's true that not enough Mexers for the GOP, it's gonna be much more difficult for the GOP if ALL Mexers vote against the GOP.

    Trump acted like a real dammy(dah-mmy).

    While it’s true that not enough Mexers for the GOP, it’s gonna be much more difficult for the GOP if ALL Mexers vote against the GOP.

    On the other hand, Trump will get a lot of white people who don’t bother voting anymore to show up at the polls. And there are a LOT more of them than there are Mexicans who will ever vote Republican.

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  123. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “Most people are by definition – average…they are still citizens, and their leaders should be working hard to protect their interests.”

    It has probably sometimes been different in some places, some times in the past. But all to often it turns out that the difference between the average and elites, over time, is not as much as is needed for the elites to remain in control of the average. Another way to put it–all human beings, even the smartest, are actually not as smart as they need to be to maintain a lot of the fictions we live by. We are all stupid, if we look hard enough.

    And, of course, it’s often the case that a big number of average people (if the average is high enough) can outperform as a group the smaller “elites”.

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  124. @Anonymous
    The USA is finished. The final global credit bubble is melting down and the carnage will be epic. We are in worse shape than Greece and all of the band-aids are coming off.

    So what if Trump, Bush or Clinton wins. You can't fix America this time because you can't fix stupid. The new demographics are S-T-U-P-I-D.

    And it's not like we can soldier on as a new Brazil. The only reason Brazil clings to Second World status is because of the First World engine of prosperity which has been anchored by the linchpin USA.

    Keep your despair to yourself. The rest of us recognize that duty requires us to abjure despair.

    Even if your assertions are true, we are still better off, much better off, to turn our backs on your counsel.

    We may lose. But we will not cower and shrink. We will not cede the battlefield.

    You should be ashamed not only of quitting the fight, but recruiting others to do so as well.

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  125. pyrrhus says:
    @Anonymous
    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    Yes, taxpaying successful people want to let in millions of low IQ and violent (but I repeat myself) people so those successful people can pay for the welfare and medical costs of those people and their crime victims, while destroying the labor market for actual Americans…..in what misbegotten Universe?

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  126. Jeb Bush was asked about his view on the Iraq War.

    His response?

    “Mistakes were made.”

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/mistakes-were-made/385663/

    George Bush was paid $100,000 to speak in front of a group of Iraq veterans. Earlier, his wife was paid $50,000 to speak to Iraq veterans.

    What an immoral family.

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    I'll have to wonder if the speaking fee was reimbursement for the Secret Service protection. I'd love to jump on the Bush's for greed, but I'm not so sure.
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  127. @24AheadDotCom
    Trump is dumbing things way down and lying when he isn't merely overinflating the issue. He and Teaparty are like a live version of Idiocracy and they're *helping* amnesty supporters.

    I say that as someone who's written 1000s of posts about immigration since 2002 and who was one of the two people selected to kick off Malkin's old immigration blog.

    If you want to help Trump and much more importantly help the U.S., start a campaign to get him to use good arguments like
    http://24ahead.com/s/false-compassion

    If Trump had used that instead of smearing most Mexican illegal aliens as rapists and similar, then he would have had a very healthy impact. Instead, he's helping amnesty supporters.

    We need people in the public eye to raise these issues. We just need them to do it in smart ways and not something straight outta Idiocracy.

    We just need them to do it in smart ways and not something straight outta Idiocracy.

    There was a panelist on Great van Susteren’s show tonight who sighed and said we’d be having a much more serious discussion about sanctuary cities right now if Trump wasn’t out there grandstanding. BULLSHIT! Without Trump’s grandstanding, sanctuary cities wouldn’t be being discussed at all. Here’s a question for The Donald: Ask why Obama sics his Justice Department on Arizona for trying to enforce immigration law, while ignoring 200-some US cities that offer sanctuary to illegals.

    Conservatism, Inc., is so terrified of anyone who makes waves. “Eww–that vulgar fellow is appealing to our disgusting base. Stop him, Jeb!”

    Jeb Bush is the most low-T candidate the GOP has ever fielded. All he needs to make the impression complete is to start wearing a bow tie.

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    I can't cure Dunning Kruger, so I can't help you.

    However, for everyone else, if Trump had used my arguments, we'd not only be having an actual serious conversation about this topic, those like Obama/Reid/Pelosi/The Atlantic/Vox/etc. etc. would look bad to millions more Americans. They already look bad to TPers, but that's not enough. They have to be made to look bad to those in their audience.

    If Trump had done things my way, support for Trump wouldn't be limited to a segment of Southern TPers.

    Trump isn't going to be the candidate or the president. He's going to flame out shortly. His fans will never take responsibility and will never admit fault and will never learn from their mistakes. They'll just keep on helping Obama etc. as they've always done.
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  128. Clyde says:
    @Thagomizer
    They say that men date women that remind them of their mother. Jeb married the first woman he met who reminded him of his Mexican nanny.

    Clearly he thinks of the nanny as his real mother.

    I don't see any other explanation.

    They say that men date women that remind them of their mother. Jeb married the first woman he met who reminded him of his Mexican nanny.

    Talk about imprinting! You might be right or partly. Never heard that theory before////// My Lord, he must be a good 15″ taller, same as his Mexican nanny. The NE Brahmin George H W Bush family had lots of Mexican household help/gardeners/gofers etc in 1960s onward in Houston. I doubt Barbara Bush cooked much so in come the Mexican cooks and the family is eating Mexican fare part of the time. Enculturation and in TransEthnicJeb’s case, infatuation. What a mess!

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  129. Clyde says:

    “Hispanic voters view efforts to scapegoat undocumented immigrants as attacks on the Hispanic community as a whole” [Competing for the Latino Vote in Texas, NCLR, March 21, 2014].

    I see attacks on the Confederate flag as an attempt to smear whites as a whole. To put us on the run and apologizing. And I am not a son of the South. Add to this the destruction of Confederate war memorials and removing Confederate graves

    The interred remains of Nathan Bedford Forrest and his wife could be moved, if the Memphis City Council gets its way.

    Confederate-Symbol Backlash Grows
    Wall Street Journal

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  130. Maj. Kong says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Jeb Bush was asked about his view on the Iraq War.

    His response?

    "Mistakes were made."

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/mistakes-were-made/385663/

    George Bush was paid $100,000 to speak in front of a group of Iraq veterans. Earlier, his wife was paid $50,000 to speak to Iraq veterans.

    What an immoral family.

    I’ll have to wonder if the speaking fee was reimbursement for the Secret Service protection. I’d love to jump on the Bush’s for greed, but I’m not so sure.

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    Secret Service protection is free for life for former presidents.

    Anyway it doesn't cost $100,000 for SS protection.

    Even if it did cost that much, the money wouldn't go to Bush. It'd go to the White house.
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  131. Clyde says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    First, and contra Frum and Barro, Trump doesn't have to win to wreck Jeb. All he has to do is stay in for the debates, and stay high enough in the polls to be included. He can do fatal damage to him there. If anyone else is helped by Trump, my guess would be Walker, if he's smart enough to follow Trump's lead on immigration (Cruz already is following Trump's lead, but I don't think he has the gravitas to win now).

    As to whether Trump wants to win, you raise an interesting question. He is, after all, the only candidate who would have to move into less luxurious housing if we wins. I would say that, how ever Trump felt about winning when he started this campaign, if anything, he's leaning more toward wanting it now that the media and Corporate America (and now, the government) have been salting the earth behind him.

    I would say that, how ever Trump felt about winning when he started this campaign, if anything, he’s leaning more toward wanting it now that the media and Corporate America (and now, the government) have been salting the earth behind him.

    Another incentive to become president is that his businesses will be redeemed and benefit his children. Not that he will be managing them.
    We will not see rats like Univision and NBC sabotaging Donald Trump Inc.

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    Trump's name is mud now, and that 'Trump' name is his brand.

    He puts out an unflappable persona, but even 'The Donald' has to be a bit shaken by how swiftly he's been discarded in some of those business ventures. The guy is being treated like a pedophile.

    I think you are correct, if he were to actually win the Presidency it might bring some legitimacy back to him and his businesses.

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  132. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jefferson
    Karl Rove is bashing Donald Trump on Greta's show. If you are a Republican and Karl Rove hates you, than you must be doing something right. Karl Rove is the Bush family's dirty henchmen. He is another dirty shill for cheap 3rd world labor.

    Jefferson says:

    “He is another dirty shill for cheap 3rd world labor.”

    Indeed. Rove is a dirty shill for so many things.

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  133. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jefferson
    San Francisco has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country, so how come Illegal Alien criminal drug dealers/killers in my city like Juan Francisco Lopez Sanchez have easy access to guns to kill innocent American civilians? Oh yeah because gun control laws only punish law abiding gun owners.

    According to several news organizations, the gun he used belonged to a federal agent (what agency, nobody says), and was stolen out of the agent’s car.

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    The news I've been reading says the gun belongs to an agent from the Bureau of Land Management. Sanchez claims that he went into a garbage can or dumpster and ingested a bunch of sleeping pills; then he found a gun wrapped up in a shirt under a bench near Embarcadero. At this point we find holes in his story. He claims that either the gun just fired off a few times and he threw it in the water or he claims that he was trying to shoot sea lions and hit Steinle by accident.
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  134. @Maj. Kong
    I'll have to wonder if the speaking fee was reimbursement for the Secret Service protection. I'd love to jump on the Bush's for greed, but I'm not so sure.

    Secret Service protection is free for life for former presidents.

    Anyway it doesn’t cost $100,000 for SS protection.

    Even if it did cost that much, the money wouldn’t go to Bush. It’d go to the White house.

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  135. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @24AheadDotCom
    Trump is dumbing things way down and lying when he isn't merely overinflating the issue. He and Teaparty are like a live version of Idiocracy and they're *helping* amnesty supporters.

    I say that as someone who's written 1000s of posts about immigration since 2002 and who was one of the two people selected to kick off Malkin's old immigration blog.

    If you want to help Trump and much more importantly help the U.S., start a campaign to get him to use good arguments like
    http://24ahead.com/s/false-compassion

    If Trump had used that instead of smearing most Mexican illegal aliens as rapists and similar, then he would have had a very healthy impact. Instead, he's helping amnesty supporters.

    We need people in the public eye to raise these issues. We just need them to do it in smart ways and not something straight outta Idiocracy.

    Oh please.

    We live in a world where the media blatantly lies about everything to do with race, crime and immigration.

    Nothing can be done until everyone treats the media with the contempt they deserve and if Trump helps with that then he’s doing a great service.

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    So, your answer is to lie and to be just as bad as they are? What you're saying is like Instapundit suggesting mockery as the solution to political problems. I shudder to think how those who think that way would govern.
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  136. @Kyle McKenna

    The only reason Brazil clings to Second World status
     
    Brasil is third-world. The "second world" referred to the Communist bloc.

    Brasil is third-world. The “second world” referred to the Communist bloc.

    Brazil (let’s keep it English here) is both First and Third World. They do build planes, you know. That stay up. In American airspace.

    Now, with a Slavic lefty in power, they qualify as Second World as well.

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    Ha! I actually like that. First, second, and third-world all wrapped up in one. Goes well with their "all races wrapped up in one" thing. Is Brazil the world's future? I've been there, and frankly most of it looks better from a distance.
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  137. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @Mr. Anon
    According to several news organizations, the gun he used belonged to a federal agent (what agency, nobody says), and was stolen out of the agent's car.

    The news I’ve been reading says the gun belongs to an agent from the Bureau of Land Management. Sanchez claims that he went into a garbage can or dumpster and ingested a bunch of sleeping pills; then he found a gun wrapped up in a shirt under a bench near Embarcadero. At this point we find holes in his story. He claims that either the gun just fired off a few times and he threw it in the water or he claims that he was trying to shoot sea lions and hit Steinle by accident.

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  138. SnakeEyes says:

    Redound to Caitalina’s benefit not “resound” to her benefit.

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  139. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Clyde

    I would say that, how ever Trump felt about winning when he started this campaign, if anything, he’s leaning more toward wanting it now that the media and Corporate America (and now, the government) have been salting the earth behind him.
     
    Another incentive to become president is that his businesses will be redeemed and benefit his children. Not that he will be managing them.
    We will not see rats like Univision and NBC sabotaging Donald Trump Inc.

    Trump’s name is mud now, and that ‘Trump’ name is his brand.

    He puts out an unflappable persona, but even ‘The Donald’ has to be a bit shaken by how swiftly he’s been discarded in some of those business ventures. The guy is being treated like a pedophile.

    I think you are correct, if he were to actually win the Presidency it might bring some legitimacy back to him and his businesses.

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    The guy is being treated like a pedophile.
     
    Criticizing illegal immigration--or any form of 'race replacement' multi-culturalism in the USA--is complete anathema as this demonstrates.
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  140. @International Jew

    The best thing about Trump is that he has his own money; and lots of it.
     
    I'm not so sure. He controls billions of dollars of assets, yes. But he's highly leveraged; his net worth is the difference between two very large numbers, both on the same order of magnitude.

    Trump’s wealth goes up and down. He was pretty close to broke in 1991.

    On the other hand, he’s still around after 30 years in the public eye. My impression is that he’s very good at the landlord job and that guys with more money will bring him in on property development deals because he’s good at making lots and lots of small decisions about what the market will pay for.

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    For shame. You did not mention Trump's new niche, finding lots of profit in putting up new upper crust golf courses that trade on the Trump name and brand. For this I know you will be voting for El Don Donaldo. And his mother was Scots. It's in the genes!

    In Donald Trump the environmentalist news:


    In a week that saw billionaire real estate mogul and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump lose major partners — including NBC, Macy’s and the PGA — due to his controversial comments about Mexican immigrants, an ironic twist in an Irish legal battle has given him something to write home about.

    Trump didn’t want a nine turbine wind farm constructed within sight of his Doonbeg golf course along Ireland’s Atlantic coast, and now — thanks to a small, freshwater pearl mussel — the wind farm has been denied approval.

    While the wind farm attracted 42 objections, including opposition from local environmental groups on the grounds that the turbines might harm the nearby aquatic habitat, the charge against it was led by Trump and his legal team.

    According to the Irish Examiner, Trump International Golf Links employed consultants that claimed the wind farm would “have a detrimental impact on the viability” of the Doonbeg golf resort. They stated that “the resort primarily relies on bookings from international and, in particular, the North American market and a reduction in bookings as a consequence of the visual impact from the proposed development will have a serious negative impact on tourism in the area.”

    The inspector in the case recommended the 413-foot high wind farm be refused for a number of reasons, including the way the wind turbines would alter the view from the golf course. In the final decision to deny the wind farm, the board refused it on only one condition — the impact it would have on the mussels.
     

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  141. Clyde says:
    @SFG
    A lot of the businessmen who support immigration are themselves talented and productive. It's not so easy as good Americans against lazy bad Americans. A lot of quite effective people, society's winners, like to further fatten themselves by screwing over the losers.

    Of course, many immigration supporters are pure parasites as well.

    A lot of the businessmen who support immigration are themselves talented and productive. It’s not so easy as good Americans against lazy bad Americans. A lot of quite effective people, society’s winners, like to further fatten themselves by screwing over the losers.

    By excessive money printing the Federal Reserve distorts price discovery. Same thing with the flood of legal/illegal immigrants. It distorts the price discovery of labor. Meaning many of the businessmen you mention are actually not so “talented and productive” and will go bankrupt without this ever increasing supply of imported cheap labor. Examples will be wineries, restaurants and hotels/motels.

    Immigrant entrepreneurs are praised these days. However:
    Many/most are successful because they are the legal immigrant fronts for cash businesses that employ illegals from the same 3rd world nation. Example would be a legal Guatemalan roofing contractor running a crew of illegal Guatemalans he can underpay because he pays them in cash. (translation: tax evasion) This contractor (+crew) might find his own roofing jobs or more commonly sub-contracts to an established Anglo roofing company that has been around forever that takes care of all the insurance, bonding, permits etc. And btw this Anglo contractor cannot be accused of hiring illegal aliens. He does so indirectly. Donald Trump’s businesses are often in this one step removed position.

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  142. Clyde says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Trump's wealth goes up and down. He was pretty close to broke in 1991.

    On the other hand, he's still around after 30 years in the public eye. My impression is that he's very good at the landlord job and that guys with more money will bring him in on property development deals because he's good at making lots and lots of small decisions about what the market will pay for.

    For shame. You did not mention Trump’s new niche, finding lots of profit in putting up new upper crust golf courses that trade on the Trump name and brand. For this I know you will be voting for El Don Donaldo. And his mother was Scots. It’s in the genes!

    In Donald Trump the environmentalist news:

    In a week that saw billionaire real estate mogul and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump lose major partners — including NBC, Macy’s and the PGA — due to his controversial comments about Mexican immigrants, an ironic twist in an Irish legal battle has given him something to write home about.

    Trump didn’t want a nine turbine wind farm constructed within sight of his Doonbeg golf course along Ireland’s Atlantic coast, and now — thanks to a small, freshwater pearl mussel — the wind farm has been denied approval.

    While the wind farm attracted 42 objections, including opposition from local environmental groups on the grounds that the turbines might harm the nearby aquatic habitat, the charge against it was led by Trump and his legal team.

    According to the Irish Examiner, Trump International Golf Links employed consultants that claimed the wind farm would “have a detrimental impact on the viability” of the Doonbeg golf resort. They stated that “the resort primarily relies on bookings from international and, in particular, the North American market and a reduction in bookings as a consequence of the visual impact from the proposed development will have a serious negative impact on tourism in the area.”

    The inspector in the case recommended the 413-foot high wind farm be refused for a number of reasons, including the way the wind turbines would alter the view from the golf course. In the final decision to deny the wind farm, the board refused it on only one condition — the impact it would have on the mussels.

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  143. @Jefferson
    NASCAR wants to prohibit it's White fans from bringing the Confederate flag to it's events. They want a ban on displays of the Confederate flag. Banning the Confederate flag is not going to convert more Black people into becoming NASCAR fans. Blacks people will always avoid NASCAR like the plague as long as the line up of NASCAR drivers is as White as the cast of the Canadian show Second City Television.

    The only way NASCAR will gain a large Black following is if they produce the Black female version of Danica Patrick or the Black male version of Jeff Gordon. Good luck with that.

    A part-black kid won one of NASCAR’s minor league events in 2013:

    http://takimag.com/article/nature_nurture_and_nascar_steve_sailer/print#axzz3fTaCiWaH

    Of course, his Twitter handle @BubbaWallace describes his general affect.

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    Lewis Hamilton is World Formula 1 champion and currently leads the 2015 championship (and his Grenadian dad was an IT contractor - not a low-IQ occupation). Hamilton is up there with the best Brit drivers of the past.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Hamilton
    , @Jefferson
    "A part-black kid won one of NASCAR’s minor league events in 2013:

    http://takimag.com/article/nature_nurture_and_nascar_steve_sailer/print#axzz3fTaCiWaH

    Of course, his Twitter handle @BubbaWallace describes his general affect."

    And how many Black fans has NASCAR gained because of this kid? Is the NASCAR fan base as Black as the nation as a whole? Meaning are at least 13 percent of all NASCAR fans now Black? Why is this Black NASCAR driver not as famous as other Black athletes like The Williams Sisters and Tiger Woods who have conquered sports fields that are traditionally predominantly White?

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  144. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @24AheadDotCom
    Trump is dumbing things way down and lying when he isn't merely overinflating the issue. He and Teaparty are like a live version of Idiocracy and they're *helping* amnesty supporters.

    I say that as someone who's written 1000s of posts about immigration since 2002 and who was one of the two people selected to kick off Malkin's old immigration blog.

    If you want to help Trump and much more importantly help the U.S., start a campaign to get him to use good arguments like
    http://24ahead.com/s/false-compassion

    If Trump had used that instead of smearing most Mexican illegal aliens as rapists and similar, then he would have had a very healthy impact. Instead, he's helping amnesty supporters.

    We need people in the public eye to raise these issues. We just need them to do it in smart ways and not something straight outta Idiocracy.

    You are just very weak…. A loser.

    You’re fired.

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  145. SFG says:

    I should also point out that the proper Spanish form of ‘Caitlin’ is ‘Catalina’, but I guess ‘Caitalina’ is more obvious.

    BTW, do you think this is getting a little inside-jokey? The person reading this has to connect ‘Caitlin’ with transgenderism, from there to transracialism, and from there to Jeb Bush calling himself Hispanic…

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    Oh, now I get it! Steve is hilarious but sometimes it's hard to keep up with the in jokes.

    So, Caitalina Bush it is! Roll on campaign 2016...
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  146. Kylie says:
    @Trayvon Zimmerman
    When I see Jeb and his wife together all I can think of is "De plane, boss! De plane!"

    When I see Jeb and his wife together all I can think of is “De plane, boss! De plane!”

    All I can think of is “If you want to wallow in it, fine. But keep it recreational, procreational strictly prohibited. And don’t bring it home.”

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    He must be so embarrassed when he is seen in public with her. But he's gotta play it off like its all good.
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  147. @Jefferson
    The vote for the lesser of 2 evils argument will not really fly if Jeb Bush gets the nomination, because he is not really politically different from Hillary Clinton. In a national election I predict Hillary would defeat Jeb in an even bigger landslide than Hussein beat Mitt. One of the reasons I say this is because Laura Ingraham mentioned on Fox News that Conservatives are always calling into her radio show saying that if Jeb gets the nomination they will sit out the 2016 election.

    Jeb Bush turns off Conservatives even more than Mitt Romney does, especially since his last name is Bush. At least Mitt's last name is not associated with something that is toxic. A lot of Conservatives felt like they got stabbed in the back during Dubya's 8 years in office. They felt Dubya took their support for him for granted. They felt Dubya treated the people who voted for him like a red headed step child. He wasn't the fiscal Conservative that he claimed he was. Jeb being a Bush is guilty by association and of course his views on common core and immigration makes Conservatives despise him even more.

    George W. Bush did nothing about sanctuary cities for Illegal Immigrants during his 8 years in office.

    If Jeb gets the nomination, vote for The Constitution Party. I know The Constitution Party has no chance of winning the presidential election, but just vote for them on principal. A protest vote, as an F you to Jeb.

    At least Mitt’s last name is not associated with something that is toxic.

    Unless you count the Kenosha Cadillac.

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  148. Bert says:
    @Jefferson
    Without blue collar Cisgender White males supporting NASCAR with their dollars, NASCAR would go out of business and be filing for bankruptcy. There are simply not enough Vibrantly Diverse fans of that sport to financially put NASCAR in the black. The only reason they make a profit and are not in the financial red is because of "Cis Scum Racist White Males". The corporate suits at NASCAR are an extremely ungrateful bunch who bite the hands that feed them.

    Jesus Christ Jefferson, do you ever get tired of posting multiple times one after the other, oftentimes when you’re not even replying to anyone?

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  149. Enderby says:
    @SFG
    I should also point out that the proper Spanish form of 'Caitlin' is 'Catalina', but I guess 'Caitalina' is more obvious.

    BTW, do you think this is getting a little inside-jokey? The person reading this has to connect 'Caitlin' with transgenderism, from there to transracialism, and from there to Jeb Bush calling himself Hispanic...

    Oh, now I get it! Steve is hilarious but sometimes it’s hard to keep up with the in jokes.

    So, Caitalina Bush it is! Roll on campaign 2016…

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  150. Svigor says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Keep your despair to yourself. The rest of us recognize that duty requires us to abjure despair.

    Even if your assertions are true, we are still better off, much better off, to turn our backs on your counsel.

    We may lose. But we will not cower and shrink. We will not cede the battlefield.

    You should be ashamed not only of quitting the fight, but recruiting others to do so as well.
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  151. anon says: • Disclaimer

    restaurant owner looking at their costs and revenue thinks cheaper labor would reduce costs

    (mass immigration -> cheaper labor)

    restaurant owner looking at their costs and revenue smiles at lower wage costs but wonders why revenue is down -> thinks solution more cheaper labor

    (mass immigration -> cheaper labor)

    restaurant owner looking at their costs and revenue smiles at even lower wage costs but wonders why revenue is down even more

    it’s almost like people have less money to spend in his restaurant

    how did that happen?

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  152. @24AheadDotCom
    Trump is dumbing things way down and lying when he isn't merely overinflating the issue. He and Teaparty are like a live version of Idiocracy and they're *helping* amnesty supporters.

    I say that as someone who's written 1000s of posts about immigration since 2002 and who was one of the two people selected to kick off Malkin's old immigration blog.

    If you want to help Trump and much more importantly help the U.S., start a campaign to get him to use good arguments like
    http://24ahead.com/s/false-compassion

    If Trump had used that instead of smearing most Mexican illegal aliens as rapists and similar, then he would have had a very healthy impact. Instead, he's helping amnesty supporters.

    We need people in the public eye to raise these issues. We just need them to do it in smart ways and not something straight outta Idiocracy.

    “been writing since 2002″ and with zero media saturation other than to pop up on a niche blog wanting to play “Everyone follow me on twitter”.

    What we don’t need more of is Asperger’s sufferers unable to see the forest for the trees. You’re replacing Whiskey as the biggest joker around here.

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  153. Corvinus says:

    “Immigration hurts the talented and productive the most, because they are the ones who benefit from an orderly society that protects what they produce from parasites who take or destroy it. Support for immigration comes always and exclusively from parasites and those who are indoctrinated by them.”

    Put “illegal” before “immigration” in both of your sentences and you would be accurate.

    “The perception that I get is a short, pudgy, confused cleaning lady. Jeb’s best strategy might be to deport her until the election is over.”

    Your perception would be glaringly mistaken.

    “In our case it’s the businessmen who want cheap labor and the liberals who want brown votes.”


    Conservatives also desire “brown votes”. Regardless, what you describe has been the American way since our inception.

    “Defending the implicit community of pre-1965 America is not on their priority.”



    Pre-1965 America consisted of a myriad of immigrants, some of whom, namely the Irish, German, and Italians, who were considered undesirable.

    “Orwell may not have foreseen the invasion of America and Europe by Africans…”

    Um, Africans didn’t invade America. They were brought here as slaves.

    They may be very “talented” at replacing Americans with taxpayer subsidized immigrants. And

    “Probably one of THE most important commenters out there is Roissy/Heartiste. Why? Because other than Devlin he is the only one focusing on family formation by not just affordability but by sexual selection.”

    
Family formation? Whiskey, you’re kidding us, right? Roissy and his boyzzz at Return of Kings are saying the OPPOSITE to men–remain single, have sex with tons of women, and rarely, if ever, commit to marriage and children.

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  154. @Kylie

    When I see Jeb and his wife together all I can think of is “De plane, boss! De plane!”
     
    All I can think of is "If you want to wallow in it, fine. But keep it recreational, procreational strictly prohibited. And don't bring it home."

    He must be so embarrassed when he is seen in public with her. But he’s gotta play it off like its all good.

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  155. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    What is this Path to Citizenship stuff?

    If it is so important that illegals be turned into citizens, I have a much better solution.

    A easier and cheaper PATH TO CITIZENSHIP.

    Send all Illegals back to the countries where they are already citizens.

    Problem solved.

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  156. @Steve Sailer
    A part-black kid won one of NASCAR's minor league events in 2013:

    http://takimag.com/article/nature_nurture_and_nascar_steve_sailer/print#axzz3fTaCiWaH

    Of course, his Twitter handle @BubbaWallace describes his general affect.

    Lewis Hamilton is World Formula 1 champion and currently leads the 2015 championship (and his Grenadian dad was an IT contractor – not a low-IQ occupation). Hamilton is up there with the best Brit drivers of the past.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Hamilton

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  157. @Reg Cæsar

    Brasil is third-world. The “second world” referred to the Communist bloc.

     

    Brazil (let's keep it English here) is both First and Third World. They do build planes, you know. That stay up. In American airspace.

    Now, with a Slavic lefty in power, they qualify as Second World as well.

    Ha! I actually like that. First, second, and third-world all wrapped up in one. Goes well with their “all races wrapped up in one” thing. Is Brazil the world’s future? I’ve been there, and frankly most of it looks better from a distance.

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  158. @anonymous
    Trump's name is mud now, and that 'Trump' name is his brand.

    He puts out an unflappable persona, but even 'The Donald' has to be a bit shaken by how swiftly he's been discarded in some of those business ventures. The guy is being treated like a pedophile.

    I think you are correct, if he were to actually win the Presidency it might bring some legitimacy back to him and his businesses.

    The guy is being treated like a pedophile.

    Criticizing illegal immigration–or any form of ‘race replacement’ multi-culturalism in the USA–is complete anathema as this demonstrates.

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  159. @Tiny Duck
    None of you jerk losers have kids.

    So, what do you guys care about the future about the country.

    Leave those thoughts for the people who were good enough to have offspring and contribute to society.

    I have four children.

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  160. @Harry Baldwin
    We just need them to do it in smart ways and not something straight outta Idiocracy.

    There was a panelist on Great van Susteren's show tonight who sighed and said we'd be having a much more serious discussion about sanctuary cities right now if Trump wasn't out there grandstanding. BULLSHIT! Without Trump's grandstanding, sanctuary cities wouldn't be being discussed at all. Here's a question for The Donald: Ask why Obama sics his Justice Department on Arizona for trying to enforce immigration law, while ignoring 200-some US cities that offer sanctuary to illegals.

    Conservatism, Inc., is so terrified of anyone who makes waves. "Eww--that vulgar fellow is appealing to our disgusting base. Stop him, Jeb!"

    Jeb Bush is the most low-T candidate the GOP has ever fielded. All he needs to make the impression complete is to start wearing a bow tie.

    I can’t cure Dunning Kruger, so I can’t help you.

    However, for everyone else, if Trump had used my arguments, we’d not only be having an actual serious conversation about this topic, those like Obama/Reid/Pelosi/The Atlantic/Vox/etc. etc. would look bad to millions more Americans. They already look bad to TPers, but that’s not enough. They have to be made to look bad to those in their audience.

    If Trump had done things my way, support for Trump wouldn’t be limited to a segment of Southern TPers.

    Trump isn’t going to be the candidate or the president. He’s going to flame out shortly. His fans will never take responsibility and will never admit fault and will never learn from their mistakes. They’ll just keep on helping Obama etc. as they’ve always done.

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    if Trump had used my arguments, we’d not only be having an actual serious conversation about this topic
     
    No we wouldn't. Everyone who says anything negative about immigration in any tone whatsoever gets the Nazi treatment from the media. This has been obviously true for decades.

    Trump isn’t going to be the candidate or the president. He’s going to flame out shortly.
     
    Maybe but that doesn't change anything. The media currently have the power to determine public policy. The only way that will change is if the media itself loses its influence and the best way to do that is to point out their lies and anti-white double standards. Trump is currently helping with this.
    , @MarkinLA
    if Trump had used my arguments, we’d not only be having an actual serious conversation about this topic,

    No they would just quietly ignore Trump like they ignored Tancredo and Dobbs when they did exactly as you suggested.
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  161. @anon
    Oh please.

    We live in a world where the media blatantly lies about everything to do with race, crime and immigration.

    Nothing can be done until everyone treats the media with the contempt they deserve and if Trump helps with that then he's doing a great service.

    So, your answer is to lie and to be just as bad as they are? What you’re saying is like Instapundit suggesting mockery as the solution to political problems. I shudder to think how those who think that way would govern.

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  162. Your tired, your poor, your huddled masses? Screw that. We tried ‘em, they weren’t hardcore enough for us. Now send us your rapists, your killers, your drug dealers. Send them Norte. We want ‘em.

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  163. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @24AheadDotCom
    I can't cure Dunning Kruger, so I can't help you.

    However, for everyone else, if Trump had used my arguments, we'd not only be having an actual serious conversation about this topic, those like Obama/Reid/Pelosi/The Atlantic/Vox/etc. etc. would look bad to millions more Americans. They already look bad to TPers, but that's not enough. They have to be made to look bad to those in their audience.

    If Trump had done things my way, support for Trump wouldn't be limited to a segment of Southern TPers.

    Trump isn't going to be the candidate or the president. He's going to flame out shortly. His fans will never take responsibility and will never admit fault and will never learn from their mistakes. They'll just keep on helping Obama etc. as they've always done.

    if Trump had used my arguments, we’d not only be having an actual serious conversation about this topic

    No we wouldn’t. Everyone who says anything negative about immigration in any tone whatsoever gets the Nazi treatment from the media. This has been obviously true for decades.

    Trump isn’t going to be the candidate or the president. He’s going to flame out shortly.

    Maybe but that doesn’t change anything. The media currently have the power to determine public policy. The only way that will change is if the media itself loses its influence and the best way to do that is to point out their lies and anti-white double standards. Trump is currently helping with this.

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  164. MarkinLA says:
    @24AheadDotCom
    I can't cure Dunning Kruger, so I can't help you.

    However, for everyone else, if Trump had used my arguments, we'd not only be having an actual serious conversation about this topic, those like Obama/Reid/Pelosi/The Atlantic/Vox/etc. etc. would look bad to millions more Americans. They already look bad to TPers, but that's not enough. They have to be made to look bad to those in their audience.

    If Trump had done things my way, support for Trump wouldn't be limited to a segment of Southern TPers.

    Trump isn't going to be the candidate or the president. He's going to flame out shortly. His fans will never take responsibility and will never admit fault and will never learn from their mistakes. They'll just keep on helping Obama etc. as they've always done.

    if Trump had used my arguments, we’d not only be having an actual serious conversation about this topic,

    No they would just quietly ignore Trump like they ignored Tancredo and Dobbs when they did exactly as you suggested.

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    "MarkInLA" and "anon" have no idea what I want Trump to do. It certainly isn't to be as passive as Tancredo was when he ran.

    The shorthand of what I want is for Trump to be like @MLP_Officiel, and for his defenders to be as much like her as possible. In that case, he'd have an actual beneficial effect (and his defenders wouldn't be a drag on the U.S.)

    What we're getting instead has lots and lots of electrolytes.
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  165. Hersh says:

    Trump has another good populist target with the money Bush has taken from Wall Street. I heard Charles Gasparino of Fox Business talk about it today. Probably lots of campaign money from Wall Street but also personal income: half of Bush’s personal income since he left the Florida governorship in 2007 has come from Wall Street. What did he do for Lehman Bros. that they were paying him $1.3 million/year. Lehman was the 4th largest investment bank and they are blamed in large measure for the collapse and recession. Its been reported that Bush tried to get Carlos Slim to bail Lehman out. Then Barclays bought Lehmans assets when Lehman went under and Barclays paid Bush $2 million/year.

    Bush should have to say what he did for Lehman and Barclays. If he didn’t do much for them, that’s a story, too.

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  166. asdf says:

    I hope Bush gets his wife in front of the camera a lot. Florida – what is wrong with you? You hire this clown? Was there anything but his name? (To be fair, his idiot brother….)

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  167. Hersh says:
    @Dahlia
    Side benefit: Trump rising helps Bernie Sanders. The Democratic voters are being far more pragmatic this cycle because they have a lot to lose; the Republican voters on the other hand are just desperate for anybody to take them seriously and have little to lose.

    The support for Hillary has been based only on her strength, specifically, to beat Jeb. This goes against liberal instincts for fresh, but they're in the same mood as when they nominated John Kerry. The Democrats seeing Republican voters throw all caution to the wind against their own conservative instincts encourages them to be less afraid and go with their heart.

    I've read a couple pieces on why Bernie is going to run up against the wall of the moderate Black and Southern White voter and lose. I disagree. They have forgotten that in Obama vs. Clinton, the Black support was with Hillary and very quickly started going to Obama after he won Iowa. Blacks are more cautious and conservative and just needed to be shown that Obama *could* win before getting behind him.

    They're with Bernie, the more liberal one, on all the bread and butter issues. They just need, again, to have demonstrated that he can win.

    I hope Bernie wins his primary. It has become patently clear over the last 10+ years that nothing has been more extreme and radical in the worst way as "Center Left" and "Center Right".

    ” It has become patently clear over the last 10+ years that nothing has been more extreme and radical in the worst way as “Center Left” and “Center Right”.”

    That’s a keeper. I’ll be quoting that a lot. Bombing countries has become the “moderate” position.

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  168. @Anonymous
    No one is illegal.

    Bush seems to think his wife should get special rules.

    I say let them in . Let the talented rise above the masses

    Immigration does not hurt he talented and fecund

    All the successful people with many kids I know support open borders . All the losers with no kids want to close the border. That tells you something right there

    If you actually are productive your kids will have to pay for the benefits low IQ 3rd world people leech. It is hidden by debt, multiple layers, & privacy laws but Switzerland which has a pay as you go system has published stories about how much low IQ 3rd world refugees leech.
    Hagenbuch, in the Swiss canton of Zurich, spends around $60,000 a month on a squatmonster with 8 kids, are you paying over $60,000 a month in taxes to support a low IQ 3rd world savage? Stupid people in Puerto Rico collect social security disability for not speaking English.

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    Stupid people in Puerto Rico collect social security disability for not speaking English.
     
    They're not the stupid ones. We are.
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  169. @BigGaySteve
    If you actually are productive your kids will have to pay for the benefits low IQ 3rd world people leech. It is hidden by debt, multiple layers, & privacy laws but Switzerland which has a pay as you go system has published stories about how much low IQ 3rd world refugees leech.
    Hagenbuch, in the Swiss canton of Zurich, spends around $60,000 a month on a squatmonster with 8 kids, are you paying over $60,000 a month in taxes to support a low IQ 3rd world savage? Stupid people in Puerto Rico collect social security disability for not speaking English.

    Stupid people in Puerto Rico collect social security disability for not speaking English.

    They’re not the stupid ones. We are.

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  170. Jefferson says:
    @Steve Sailer
    A part-black kid won one of NASCAR's minor league events in 2013:

    http://takimag.com/article/nature_nurture_and_nascar_steve_sailer/print#axzz3fTaCiWaH

    Of course, his Twitter handle @BubbaWallace describes his general affect.

    “A part-black kid won one of NASCAR’s minor league events in 2013:

    http://takimag.com/article/nature_nurture_and_nascar_steve_sailer/print#axzz3fTaCiWaH

    Of course, his Twitter handle @BubbaWallace describes his general affect.”

    And how many Black fans has NASCAR gained because of this kid? Is the NASCAR fan base as Black as the nation as a whole? Meaning are at least 13 percent of all NASCAR fans now Black? Why is this Black NASCAR driver not as famous as other Black athletes like The Williams Sisters and Tiger Woods who have conquered sports fields that are traditionally predominantly White?

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  171. @MarkinLA
    if Trump had used my arguments, we’d not only be having an actual serious conversation about this topic,

    No they would just quietly ignore Trump like they ignored Tancredo and Dobbs when they did exactly as you suggested.

    “MarkInLA” and “anon” have no idea what I want Trump to do. It certainly isn’t to be as passive as Tancredo was when he ran.

    The shorthand of what I want is for Trump to be like @MLP_Officiel, and for his defenders to be as much like her as possible. In that case, he’d have an actual beneficial effect (and his defenders wouldn’t be a drag on the U.S.)

    What we’re getting instead has lots and lots of electrolytes.

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