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From Footwear News:

Nike HR Exec Reportedly Admits Brand Failed to Make Progress on Diversity
By Sheena Butler-Young

More details are emerging about the internal issues that led to Nike’s executive shake-up last month.

I look like a “Monique,” not a “Mo’nique”

At least six Nike higher-ups left hurriedly after a #MeToo scandal.

In a company memo obtained by The Wall Street Journal Wednesday, Nike’s chief human resources officer, Monique Matheson, reportedly told staffers that The Swoosh “has failed to gain traction” in hiring and promoting women and minorities.

To that end, Matheson added that the company wants “to create a culture of true inclusion. As part of our plan, we need to improve representation of women and people of color,” WSJ reported.

As everyone knows, People of Color never get handsy around women. Especially black men who love basketball. They are just morally superior, that’s all.

“While we’ve spoken about this many times and tried different ways to achieve change, we have failed to gain traction — and our hiring and promotion decisions are not changing senior-level representation as quickly as we have wanted,” the memo reportedly stated.

Last month, Nike announced the back-to-back — and seemingly abrupt — departures of Trevor Edwards, brand president, and Jayme Martin, VP and GM of global categories. …

In the U.S., 16 percent of vice presidents are nonwhite, she reportedly wrote. …

At the same time, many experts have suggested that an effective remedy for corporate reform — which sees women and other minorities treated more fairly at work — is creating more diversity in the upper ranks of companies.

So, because all six execs who got caught were white, right?

Or were they?

The New York Times, interestingly, while playing it a little indirect and coy about the Fired Six does not, for once, play the You Must Hire More Women and Minorities card:

At Nike, Revolt Led by Women Leads to Exodus of Male Executives
By JULIE CRESWELL, KEVIN DRAPER and RACHEL ABRAMS APRIL 28, 2018

… Finally, fed up, a group of women inside Nike’s Beaverton, Ore., headquarters started a small revolt.

… Over the next several weeks, at least six top male executives left or said they were planning to leave the company, including Trevor Edwards, president of the Nike brand, who was widely viewed as a leading candidate to succeed Mr. Parker, and Jayme Martin, Mr. Edwards’s lieutenant, who oversaw much of Nike’s global business.

Others who have departed include the head of diversity and inclusion

Indeed

, a vice president in footwear and a senior director for Nike’s basketball division. …

While women struggled to attain top positions at Nike, an inner circle of mostly male leaders emerged who had a direct line to Mr. Edwards. Within the company, as reported earlier in The Wall Street Journal, this group was known as F.O.T., or Friends of Trevor.

The NYT is being coy, but judging from the names in an article in the Portland Business Journal, it looks like two of the six were white (including second ranked Jayme Martin), one South Asian, and three black (including top dog Trevor Edwards).

So, nonwhites make up 1/6th of the Nike executive ranks but 4/6th of the fired executives.

Solution: hire more nonwhites!

Just Do It.

 
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  1. Off-Topic Alert:

    (((Concerned Chosen Persons))) against Ken Loach:

    Ken Loach, the award-winning British film director, has hit back at Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel, after the leader claimed he should not receive an honorary degree because of alleged anti-Semitic comments.

    Actually, it is only the Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel (who him?) being used as sockpuppet, but still, who likes to be grievously mangled by an irate sheep?

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  2. Solution: hire more nonwhites!

    Just Do It!

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I'll steal that.
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  3. @El Dato

    Solution: hire more nonwhites!
     
    Just Do It!

    I’ll steal that.

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    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    I hope El Dato is not a Person of Color! The white man has stolen enough.
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    • Replies: @eah, @Lot
    The map shows several areas of London have lost more than 50% of their white British population between 2001 and 2011.
    , @Bill jones
    Maybe all the women at Nike should be issued with Underarmor.
    , @Neoconned
    Serious inquiry: if I visit London, will I even see UK ppl period?

    Even if they're Irish or Scots? Or hell white Europeans period of whatever variety or is it already Karachi?
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  5. Does Jayme count as white? Isn’t “Jayme” one of those names that “white” Brazilians use?

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    Can’t figure out if Jayme is a man or a women or mis spelling of the Spanish name Jaime.
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  6. Anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:

    Nike’s chief human resources officer, Monique Matheson

    Has anyone looked into the disparate impact of human resources department staffing? Shouldn’t there be a quota to increase the number of men in those departments?

    The writer of the quoted article from the trade publicaiton Footwear News, Sheena Butler-Young, has something seriously disturbing going on with her eyebrows. Cholla fashion from back issues of Teen Angels has crossed the ethnic divide.

    21224118_267747590409694_5700142881419821056_n.jpg

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    • Replies: @Jack D
    HR has been a sort of female ghetto because (1) women are "good with people" and (2) they can be used to fill hiring quotas without doing damage to the actual business of the company (i.e. making and selling stuff). However, I think they will prove to be a fifth column.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    I have never heard of, read an email by, or talked on the phone to, any man in HR in my whole life. HR is the scourge of the business world (more here, and here).
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  7. Women will always struggle to attain top positions in anything because of the greater standard deviation of men in virtually all metrics. Are they going to female-dog about disproportionate men in prison, mental hospitals, workplace deaths, murder victims etc… Thought not.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Maybe not just standard deviation. Richard Lynn is saying that women's mean IQ is a quarter SD lower than men's. Not a big deal ... except at the extreme right end. So women, mean 98, SD 14, men, mean 102, SD 16. The IQ difference varies by tested subset, so women do better in some specific tasks.

    http://www.mankindquarterly.org/archive/issue/58-1 (and James Flynn makes an appearance in a rebuttal)

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  8. #NikeSoWhite

    #MoreBeaverInBeaverton

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  9. anonymous[313] • Disclaimer says:

    Their products are all made in Asia and Asians are considered POC so the company has many minorities under it’s wing. Or are they invisible because the people who actually put the product together are proles? Remember back in the day when Jesse Jackson’s outfit tried to shake them down using the pretext that hiring Jordan to promote their products meant they should pay up?

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  10. Bo knew.

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  11. OT:

    China shows how it will win the future by recognizing differences between men and women.

    But don’t worry, SJWs are on the case to shame Chinese into believing men and women are the same.

    Will the Chinese swallow the cuck hook and bring thousands of years of civilization to an end, or will the Middle Kingdom shrug off the heavy hand of Western Imperialist hegemony?

    To find out, tune in to next week’s episode of The Fate of Humanity!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/business/china-women-technology.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/23/opinion/chinese-tech-sexism.html?action=click&contentCollection=Business%20Day&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

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    • Replies: @El Dato

    While tech companies tout themselves as progressive to the rest of the world, these disturbing recruitment strategies show how deeply entrenched discrimination against women remains in China.

    — The Editors
     

    Quite disturbing indeed. I will take to my safe space for a while, then tweet about how something must be done. Maybe international sanctions are the right way to go?
    , @Alfa158
    China is a 5000 year old civilization with 1.2 billion people, strong self-confidence and self -awareness, and belief in themselves. When the all-conquering Mongols invaded, China swallowed and digested them without even burping. The Chinese in the US vote SJW purely because it serves their interest to pile on Whites, but in my opinion the SJW cucks have no chance of getting any real traction in China.
    , @JimB

    China shows how it will win the future by recognizing differences between men and women.
     
    China will fail for other cultural reasons. The entire globe is headed for interesting times.
    , @Rosie

    Will the Chinese swallow the cuck hook and bring thousands of years of civilization to an end, or will the Middle Kingdom shrug off the heavy hand of Western Imperialist hegemony?
     
    People who believe men and women are the same are wrong, but they are not cucks.

    How does sexual egalitarianism, right or wrong, mean the end of civilization? Please elaborate.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    Probably the SJW menace will be resisted for awhile yet. Distinct language and culture helps with that, but most importantly, the method of government means that it is more difficult for the usual actors to get a significant toehold. Even in Japan, for example, which is nominally a democracy, can avoid subversion by having significant amounts of power secluded in veiled male-controlled clubs and organizations.
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  12. Easy solution: only hire female non-whites. They’re a diversity two-fer.

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    I used to hire (and fire) programmers. I can't remember any women programmers who worked for me and only two blacks - both of whom I fired.

    When I worked in government I once had several hundred women working for me and only three males. The requirements of various real world workplaces don't correspond to the expectations of the social planners.
    , @Anon
    That would ok if you let the Asians and Hispanics run the place. The blacks could be isolated so they could eat, have their potlucks and screech and fight all day long.
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  13. @Almost Missouri
    OT:

    China shows how it will win the future by recognizing differences between men and women.

    But don't worry, SJWs are on the case to shame Chinese into believing men and women are the same.

    Will the Chinese swallow the cuck hook and bring thousands of years of civilization to an end, or will the Middle Kingdom shrug off the heavy hand of Western Imperialist hegemony?

    To find out, tune in to next week's episode of The Fate of Humanity!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/business/china-women-technology.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/23/opinion/chinese-tech-sexism.html?action=click&contentCollection=Business%20Day&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

    While tech companies tout themselves as progressive to the rest of the world, these disturbing recruitment strategies show how deeply entrenched discrimination against women remains in China.

    — The Editors

    Quite disturbing indeed. I will take to my safe space for a while, then tweet about how something must be done. Maybe international sanctions are the right way to go?

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  14. OT

    Did Thomas Merton really die after being electrocuted by a fan? Or was he actually murdered?

    https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/28/speaking-the-unspeakable-the-assassination-and-martyrdom-of-thomas-merton/

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    Re Thomas Merton:

    Haven't read this new book so I can't comment on it, but murder instead of accident seems a reasonable speculation to me.

    Merton was famous. Even C. S. Lewis across-the-pond had known who he was and read his books. And Merton published a lot-- "the Talkative Trappist. " Millions of Americans read him, and not only Catholics. Lenny Bruce, for example.

    But he appealed to many of the devout. And now he was starting to be Talkative about Vietnam.

    Shut him up, shut him down. It's not as if we were going to have one of those fabled National Conversations about...war in Indochina, in this case.

    Rembert Weakland administered the viaticum. The position of Merton's body was explained: He had soiled himself when he died, and the priests who found him changed him out of care for his dignity.

    I think he was probably murdered, sure.
    , @Foreign Expert
    I was in Thailand shortly after this happened and was nearly electrocuted in a similar way. I find the story of his death believable.
    , @anonymous
    Never did buy story that he electrocuted himself. The notion that Merton knew (and said) "too much" has some validity I believe. And on that note, given Brennan's recent comments, Trump had better double his guard.
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  15. Being in the construction industry which having been under court orders to integrate (that lead to court taking over all hiring and human resources of most unions for 40 years and charging us for the assault and constantly filing lawsuits for damages and larger social work staff leading to utter ruin of industry) Its hard to feel sorry when the white collars get the same treatment finally maybe eventually someone will care.I doubt it.

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  16. Others who have departed include the head of diversity and inclusion

    That is just too funny.

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  17. @Almost Missouri
    OT:

    China shows how it will win the future by recognizing differences between men and women.

    But don't worry, SJWs are on the case to shame Chinese into believing men and women are the same.

    Will the Chinese swallow the cuck hook and bring thousands of years of civilization to an end, or will the Middle Kingdom shrug off the heavy hand of Western Imperialist hegemony?

    To find out, tune in to next week's episode of The Fate of Humanity!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/business/china-women-technology.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/23/opinion/chinese-tech-sexism.html?action=click&contentCollection=Business%20Day&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

    China is a 5000 year old civilization with 1.2 billion people, strong self-confidence and self -awareness, and belief in themselves. When the all-conquering Mongols invaded, China swallowed and digested them without even burping. The Chinese in the US vote SJW purely because it serves their interest to pile on Whites, but in my opinion the SJW cucks have no chance of getting any real traction in China.

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  18. “Others who have departed include the head of diversity and inclusion”

    Lol. It’s the old joke.

    “Got any ‘diversity’ in ya?”
    “No.”
    “Want some?”

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  19. @eah

    Who needs libraries when there’s only one book that matters?

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    • LOL: eah
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  20. For the life of me I can’t understand why Nike, a sneaker company is as big as it is. Look at most of their products. Their business model seems to be selling brightly colored clown shoes to Black teenagers. And yet they make billions.

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    Henry, don't you know cool kicks make you cool. It's all about the look. That's why there is such a market for knock offs.
    , @anonymous

    Their business model seems to be selling brightly colored clown shoes to Black teenagers. And yet they make billions.
     
    Nike sells more than 100 million pairs of shoes each year. Style matters to many people. It’s very hard to find an American who hasn’t worn a pair of Nikes at some point in the last 45 years. I did road work in PF Flyers back in the 60s/70s, it hurt, modern running shoes are a huge improvement.
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  21. @Anonymous

    Nike’s chief human resources officer, Monique Matheson
     
    Has anyone looked into the disparate impact of human resources department staffing? Shouldn't there be a quota to increase the number of men in those departments?

    The writer of the quoted article from the trade publicaiton Footwear News, Sheena Butler-Young, has something seriously disturbing going on with her eyebrows. Cholla fashion from back issues of Teen Angels has crossed the ethnic divide.

    21224118_267747590409694_5700142881419821056_n.jpg

    HR has been a sort of female ghetto because (1) women are “good with people” and (2) they can be used to fill hiring quotas without doing damage to the actual business of the company (i.e. making and selling stuff). However, I think they will prove to be a fifth column.

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    • Replies: @International Jew
    Alas technology is cutting into that. Over time, I've seen technology — in the form of third-party web apps — take over the selection and tweaking of a benefits package, paperwork to reimburse me for travel and other expenses, performance reviews and more. Granted, functions such as diversity training and top-honcho-who-talks-to-the-press aren't automatable, but that's only good for a handful of slots even at a very large company.
    , @EdwardM
    They already are a fifth column. Corporate executives are scared to death of HR, and what HR says isn't falsifiable because (1) they're the diverse crowd who care about people, the company's most important assets of course and (2) they claim to serve as the defense against lawsuits and government regulations which must be complied with.

    And the HR crowd has done a great a job making their bureaucratic utopia a self-fulfilling prophecy through government regulation and lawfare. In an ideal world, HR management would first cut its teeth on the business line, but, as you say, most HR people make HR their career starting in college and are ignorant, or antipathetic, about revenue-generating business.

    Corporate rule by HR, which is not surprisingly the most female and NAM part of most companies, is destroying capitalism. They have been strikingly successful in making big business essentially an arm of the state (which is a characteristic of facism).

    , @Marty T
    Women do very little work that really needs to be done.
    , @ben tillman

    HR has been a sort of female ghetto because (1) women are “good with people” and (2) they can be used to fill hiring quotas without doing damage to the actual business of the company (i.e. making and selling stuff).
     
    By hiring the wrong people, they do plenty of damage to the actual business.
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  22. Nike may have dodged a bullet. Edwards was the crown prince. Usually appointing a black or female CEO is the kiss of death for a big corporation (or a country – see Obama) – a sign that the creative/entrepreneurial/expansionist phase is over and the bureaucratic rot has set in. Blacks/female leadership often ends in disaster but usually at best they serve as a sort of caretaker role – they can take something built by others (whites) and maintain it for a while but they are largely incapable of coming up with anything new or responding to unforeseen crises. There may be rare exceptions to this but not many.

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    • Replies: @JimB
    Wait. What exactly is the creative technology behind Nike? I thought the company was founded on the discovery that you could make shock absorbing souls for running shoes by curing silicone glue in a kitchen waffle iron. The rest of the brand is badly stitched Lycra body condoms stitched in Thailand and hype to the urban market.
    , @Barnard
    The only bad stretch the McDonald's share price has had in the last 20 years was when they had a black CEO.
    , @Johann Ricke

    Usually appointing a black or female CEO is the kiss of death for a big corporation (or a country – see Obama)
     
    So JC Penney is doomed? And Credit Suisse?
    , @Diversity Heretic
    The new head of the National Nuclear Security Administration (it's the agency responsible for nuclear weapons development and maintenance) is female-the first in the Administration's history. Any predictions on what this might mean for the U.S. nuclear weapons' capability?
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  23. @eah
    https://twitter.com/DrTeckKhong/status/990114045859639296

    The map shows several areas of London have lost more than 50% of their white British population between 2001 and 2011.

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    • Replies: @International Jew
    I guess the Brits love diversity just as much as we do.
    , @Neoconned
    I've never been to the UK....are the touristy areas even staffed and inhabited by UK ppl or is it all Pakistani and Nigerian now
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  24. @Jack D
    HR has been a sort of female ghetto because (1) women are "good with people" and (2) they can be used to fill hiring quotas without doing damage to the actual business of the company (i.e. making and selling stuff). However, I think they will prove to be a fifth column.

    Alas technology is cutting into that. Over time, I’ve seen technology — in the form of third-party web apps — take over the selection and tweaking of a benefits package, paperwork to reimburse me for travel and other expenses, performance reviews and more. Granted, functions such as diversity training and top-honcho-who-talks-to-the-press aren’t automatable, but that’s only good for a handful of slots even at a very large company.

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    • Replies: @Jack D
    Too bad it's not just HR. Automation is going to kill more jobs than most people can imagine and not just blue collar jobs - in fact many white collar jobs are easier to automate than blue. Y'all can rant and rave about immigrants taking jobs all you want but what if the "immigrant" is a robot or a computer?

    Guaranteed income is an invitation to sloth but what about letting women stay home again to raise their kids? What about lowering the retirement age so that young people can find jobs? A lot of ideas that may seem radical left/right now may not seem so dumb in the future.
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  25. @Lot
    The map shows several areas of London have lost more than 50% of their white British population between 2001 and 2011.

    I guess the Brits love diversity just as much as we do.

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  26. @International Jew
    Alas technology is cutting into that. Over time, I've seen technology — in the form of third-party web apps — take over the selection and tweaking of a benefits package, paperwork to reimburse me for travel and other expenses, performance reviews and more. Granted, functions such as diversity training and top-honcho-who-talks-to-the-press aren't automatable, but that's only good for a handful of slots even at a very large company.

    Too bad it’s not just HR. Automation is going to kill more jobs than most people can imagine and not just blue collar jobs – in fact many white collar jobs are easier to automate than blue. Y’all can rant and rave about immigrants taking jobs all you want but what if the “immigrant” is a robot or a computer?

    Guaranteed income is an invitation to sloth but what about letting women stay home again to raise their kids? What about lowering the retirement age so that young people can find jobs? A lot of ideas that may seem radical left/right now may not seem so dumb in the future.

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    • Replies: @Rosie

    Y’all can rant and rave about immigrants taking jobs all you want but what if the “immigrant” is a robot or a computer?
     
    Robots and computers don't pose a demographic threat and don't have human rights, at least not yet.

    Guaranteed income is an invitation to sloth but what about letting women stay home again to raise their kids? What about lowering the retirement age so that young people can find jobs? A lot of ideas that may seem radical left/right now may not seem so dumb in the future.
     
    Very sensible. All that would be required is heavy taxation of second incomes to persuade most women to stay home. It's largely what we want to do anyway. You wouldn't even have to explicitly exclude women from the workplace. Traditional gender roles would reassert themselves as a matter of course. Exceptions would be rare and therefore unproblematic.
    , @Intelligent Dasein

    Automation is going to kill more jobs than most people can imagine....
     
    No, it isn't.

    Automation is a Rube Goldberg solution to a non-problem that would require phalanxes more office drones to implement and oversee. That is its entire purpose---to divert the revenue stream of productive enterprises from line workers and capex and transfer it to managerial douchebags. But the low hanging fruit of this essentially parasitical strategy has long since been picked. There are numerous signs to indicate that Team D-bag has reached the limit of its strength and is due for a comeuppance. One is that the mystique is finally starting to wear off the tech sector; another is that automation can only develop itself upon an expanding credit base, which simply is not possible in a world of no savings and no growth. Try to imagine a world of generally declining standards of living and increasing anxiety about the future, where all the working men are being asked to support not only a bloated overclass of useless kibbitzers but also their ever-increasing retinue of exigent circus contraptions, and you'll get a pretty good idea of the prospects of "automation." Look up Rogaine Musk in a few years for the gritty details.
    , @International Jew

    Automation is going to kill more jobs than most people can imagine
     
    Don't believe the hype.

    The farm tractor was the greatest-ever jobs destroyer, and things worked out fine.
    , @David Davenport
    Guaranteed income is an invitation to sloth but what about letting women stay home again to raise their kids? What about lowering the retirement age so that young people can find jobs? A lot of ideas that may seem radical left/right now may not seem so dumb in the future.

    Jack D, I notice that you didn't mention immigration restriction. Fewer Hispanic nannies available at low wages, more incentive for wives to stay home.
    , @bomag

    Y’all can rant and rave about immigrants taking jobs all you want...
     
    "Employment" is a dynamic around which we organize society to a large degree; not that most jobs are actually important or vital. Giving jobs to foreigners just gives them a toehold in our society; we're better off raising up our own for those jobs, or not filling them.
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  27. If the #metoo movement implicates a disproportionate % of black males, doesn’t this create a disparate impact and thus create a presumption of bias?

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  28. @Almost Missouri
    OT:

    China shows how it will win the future by recognizing differences between men and women.

    But don't worry, SJWs are on the case to shame Chinese into believing men and women are the same.

    Will the Chinese swallow the cuck hook and bring thousands of years of civilization to an end, or will the Middle Kingdom shrug off the heavy hand of Western Imperialist hegemony?

    To find out, tune in to next week's episode of The Fate of Humanity!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/business/china-women-technology.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/23/opinion/chinese-tech-sexism.html?action=click&contentCollection=Business%20Day&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

    China shows how it will win the future by recognizing differences between men and women.

    China will fail for other cultural reasons. The entire globe is headed for interesting times.

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  29. @Jack D
    Nike may have dodged a bullet. Edwards was the crown prince. Usually appointing a black or female CEO is the kiss of death for a big corporation (or a country - see Obama) - a sign that the creative/entrepreneurial/expansionist phase is over and the bureaucratic rot has set in. Blacks/female leadership often ends in disaster but usually at best they serve as a sort of caretaker role - they can take something built by others (whites) and maintain it for a while but they are largely incapable of coming up with anything new or responding to unforeseen crises. There may be rare exceptions to this but not many.

    Wait. What exactly is the creative technology behind Nike? I thought the company was founded on the discovery that you could make shock absorbing souls for running shoes by curing silicone glue in a kitchen waffle iron. The rest of the brand is badly stitched Lycra body condoms stitched in Thailand and hype to the urban market.

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    shock absorbing souls
     
    Too. Funny.
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  30. @Almost Missouri
    OT:

    China shows how it will win the future by recognizing differences between men and women.

    But don't worry, SJWs are on the case to shame Chinese into believing men and women are the same.

    Will the Chinese swallow the cuck hook and bring thousands of years of civilization to an end, or will the Middle Kingdom shrug off the heavy hand of Western Imperialist hegemony?

    To find out, tune in to next week's episode of The Fate of Humanity!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/business/china-women-technology.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/23/opinion/chinese-tech-sexism.html?action=click&contentCollection=Business%20Day&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

    Will the Chinese swallow the cuck hook and bring thousands of years of civilization to an end, or will the Middle Kingdom shrug off the heavy hand of Western Imperialist hegemony?

    People who believe men and women are the same are wrong, but they are not cucks.

    How does sexual egalitarianism, right or wrong, mean the end of civilization? Please elaborate.

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    How does sexual egalitarianism, right or wrong, mean the end of civilization? Please elaborate.

    Let me try. An attempt to make true that which is false (sexes are equal; races are equal) leads to further efforts to deny reality, which, over time, will undermine qualities such as honesty that are essential to an advanced civilization.

    An advanced civilization requires a modicum of honesty to be created and to function.

    Nothing good comes from lies.

    , @Bay Area Guy
    Because civilizations need strong identities and traditions to endure. Asserting that men and women are the same is the same kind of logic that allows people to contend that "America could be 100% Chinese, and it would still be America, not China!" Distinctions are important; otherwise, whites will end up a bunch of deracinated individuals who get outcompeted by more cohesive groups.

    Oops, too late!
    , @Reg Cæsar

    How does sexual egalitarianism, right or wrong, mean the end of civilization? Please elaborate.
     
    Indeed, it could mean the end of Jews, which many of our forum-mates here would celebrate.

    Except for those hairy, black-hatted menstruphobe troglodytes, but, like the Amish, they're only annoying if you live close by.
    , @J.Ross
    Civiliztion is a product of consistent specialization.
    , @J.Ross
    People who believe men and women are the same are wrong, but they are not cucks.
    A cuck is a cuckold, one of Shakespeare's favorite insults: a man who has abdicated his masculine prerogatives, especially regarding his woman. The main presupposition in tolerating promiscuity, open relationships, and cucking is that female sexuality works just like male sexuality. So, yeah, people who believe that men and women are the same are cucks.
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  31. @Jack D
    Nike may have dodged a bullet. Edwards was the crown prince. Usually appointing a black or female CEO is the kiss of death for a big corporation (or a country - see Obama) - a sign that the creative/entrepreneurial/expansionist phase is over and the bureaucratic rot has set in. Blacks/female leadership often ends in disaster but usually at best they serve as a sort of caretaker role - they can take something built by others (whites) and maintain it for a while but they are largely incapable of coming up with anything new or responding to unforeseen crises. There may be rare exceptions to this but not many.

    The only bad stretch the McDonald’s share price has had in the last 20 years was when they had a black CEO.

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    So are you loading up on NKE ? Closed at 69.56 USD +1.50 (2.20%) on Friday.
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  32. @Jack D
    Too bad it's not just HR. Automation is going to kill more jobs than most people can imagine and not just blue collar jobs - in fact many white collar jobs are easier to automate than blue. Y'all can rant and rave about immigrants taking jobs all you want but what if the "immigrant" is a robot or a computer?

    Guaranteed income is an invitation to sloth but what about letting women stay home again to raise their kids? What about lowering the retirement age so that young people can find jobs? A lot of ideas that may seem radical left/right now may not seem so dumb in the future.

    Y’all can rant and rave about immigrants taking jobs all you want but what if the “immigrant” is a robot or a computer?

    Robots and computers don’t pose a demographic threat and don’t have human rights, at least not yet.

    Guaranteed income is an invitation to sloth but what about letting women stay home again to raise their kids? What about lowering the retirement age so that young people can find jobs? A lot of ideas that may seem radical left/right now may not seem so dumb in the future.

    Very sensible. All that would be required is heavy taxation of second incomes to persuade most women to stay home. It’s largely what we want to do anyway. You wouldn’t even have to explicitly exclude women from the workplace. Traditional gender roles would reassert themselves as a matter of course. Exceptions would be rare and therefore unproblematic.

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    All that would be required is heavy taxation of second incomes to persuade most women to stay home.
     
    It is interesting to think about that in the context of the "marriage penalty" discussion surrounding US income taxes. The push is to move things in the opposite direction from what you propose (why am I not surprised).

    https://taxfoundation.org/understanding-marriage-penalty-and-marriage-bonus/

    That link was one of the few times I have seen the "marriage bonus" aspect discussed. This plot might give some insights into the way the political winds are blowing:

    https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=marriage+penalty%2Cmarriage+bonus&year_start=1960&year_end=2007&corpus=15&smoothing=3
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  33. White British mobilized to keep foriegn grey squirrels from displacing indigenous red squirrels.

    Red squirrels: 5,000 volunteers sought to save species – and help kill invasive greys

    Wildlife Trusts’ biggest-ever recruitment drive will see volunteers monitor populations, educate children – and kill grey squirrels

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/feb/24/red-squirrels-5000-volunteers-sought-to-save-species-and-help-kill-invasive-greys

    See, the British are still willing to fight them, as long as them refers to grey squirrels.

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  34. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    “Y’all can rant and rave about immigrants taking jobs all you want but what if the “immigrant” is a robot or a computer?”

    When you’ve dug yourself into a hole, the first step to recovery is to stop digging. The automation argument is a supreme reason to reconsidering the nation’s suicidal immigration policies, which we all know are simply there to end democracy and ensure a permanent democrat ruling body in the near future.

    #secession

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  35. The NYT is being coy, but judging from the names in an article in the Portland Business Journal, it looks like two of the six were white (including second ranked Jayme Martin), one South Asian, and three black (including top dog Trevor Edwards).

    So, nonwhites make up 1/6th of the Nike executive ranks but 4/6th of the fired executives.

    Solution: hire more nonwhites!

    Following this logic, shouldn’t Nike hire more East Asians since the were 0/6th of the fired executives? :)

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    Nike recruited, but it didn't pan out.
    , @res
    I get your joke, but the under/over representation of certain groups becomes even more dramatic when taking into account Nike employee demographics.

    http://fortune.com/2016/05/12/nike-staff-diversity/

    https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com%2F2016%2F05%2Fnike-diversity.png

    It looks like the real solution is to hire more Hispanics. ;-)

    P.S. From the Footwear News article we have: "In the U.S., 16 percent of vice presidents are nonwhite, she reportedly wrote. (Nike’s diversity report for 2017 also indicates 58 percent of its global workforce is nonwhite and that 23 percent of its directors are nonwhite.)"
    , @anon
    Nippo-Korean* athletic and functional shoe designers (in other words not the crazy luxury lines e.g. Louboutin) are in the vanguard. Unlike the process in designing most apparel, designing a sneaker requires aesthetic ability and extensive knowledge of materials and process and an abilty to make the shoe function with the human foot. Conceptually it’s closer to architecture, functionality limits what you can do aesthetically but the aesthetics are what the consumer wants. IMHO it wouldn’t hurt Nike to get more leadership from the design sector. Marketing only gets you so far, you need cool and comfort to sell sneakers and athletic apparel.

    *The China-India designers are not of the same calibre. Don’t know why.
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  36. There may be rare exceptions to this but not many.

    Evidence? I rather doubt that women are particularly deficient in management ability. There’s a reason they’re called “Mom and Pop” stores rather than just “Pop” stores. I don’t see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women’s competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women’s interest in these roles.

    Men are certainly more ambitious and expansive in their outlook, but then that is how we got into this mess, isn’t it? The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.

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    "Men are certainly more ambitious and expansive in their outlook, but then that is how we got into this mess, isn’t it? The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism."

    Pretty interesting comment there. Really, feminists should be against globalism, since ambitious males just can't help themselves.
    , @Anonymous
    I don’t see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women’s competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women’s interest in these roles.

    How so?
    , @Anonymous
    Men are certainly more ambitious and expansive in their outlook, but then that is how we got into this mess, isn’t it? The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.

    Not at all. Greatest force, excluding the Zionists, is female hypergamy, receptivity to more options in mate, and indifference to holding territory and to group loyalty.
    , @gunner29

    I rather doubt that women are particularly deficient in management ability. There’s a reason they’re called “Mom and Pop” stores rather than just “Pop” stores. I don’t see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women’s competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women’s interest in these roles.
     
    Scale makes a huge difference. Mom and Pop is the bottom of the ladder when it comes to management.

    You have to know when to get there, unlock the door without tripping the alarm, and get behind the counter. Inventory is walking down the aisle to see what's sold out, payroll is the two of you, maybe a part timer or two. Most people can do this level of management.

    As the company gets bigger, now you have specialized staff for bookeeping, personel, inventory, marketing, the list goes on. Real early in that expansion, lots of men, and womyn reach their level of competency, they can maybe handle a couple of locations with 100 employees, but the ability to take it to a higher level, national, that's really rare in one person.

    Guys like our host, Steve, could give you lots of sources with how difficult high level managment truly is, and why so few womyn are there.

    Another thought; 10 years ago or more, there was another womyn with a mindset like yours. She had seen all these womyn with advanced degrees from the most elite schools and there had been hardly any change in the percentage of womyn CEO's in the previous 20 years.

    So she decided to contact some of these womyn. Her method was the NYT's wedding announcement pages. Went back into the archives 10 years and noted the womyn with the best pedigree's and used public records to track them down. The wedding announcement always mentioned the wife's educational attainments. She wanted the prime beef.

    Interesting what she found. Most of the womyn had married really well, since their male classmates had the best pedigree's as well. The reason the vast majority gave as to why they weren't on the corporate ladder was their husband could and did provide a very comfortable living. They saw no reason to bust their ass like their husbands did every day.

    One womyn said her husband was the CEO of the family; he earned the money. She was the CFO, she spent it. LOL

    Womyn have options in life; to work or not. At least a lot of them. Men's options are to work, or live on the streets. No womyn will want to support a guy, at least among womyn that are lower middle class and above. The underclass, the guys can find womyn that will sometimes do that. Mainly NAMs tho...


    The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.
     
    No, that's behind the global population boom. Globalism is the quest to acquire more money so you can attract a better class/looking womyn you can penetrate.

    Aristotle Onasis is on record saying the only reason for making a lot of money are womyn....male sex drive is everything.

    , @David Davenport
    Evidence? I rather doubt that women are particularly deficient in management ability. There’s a reason they’re called “Mom and Pop” stores rather than just “Pop” stores. I don’t see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women’s competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women’s interest in these roles.

    "Rosie" is Corvinus.
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  37. How is it that people from Third World Countries that are under-developed and cannot feed themselves do not seem to be able to run high tech industries? Is there some Voodoo from bad thoughts causing bad vibes holding them down? That’s the claim. Can’t we just get someone from a underserved group and give them a handout and make this better? Sure. It won’t make profits and it might lead to ruin but that total destruction of industries and cities seems a small price to pay to boost the overblown egos of idiots who come from places of underdevelopment to eat at our table.

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  38. @Rosie

    Will the Chinese swallow the cuck hook and bring thousands of years of civilization to an end, or will the Middle Kingdom shrug off the heavy hand of Western Imperialist hegemony?
     
    People who believe men and women are the same are wrong, but they are not cucks.

    How does sexual egalitarianism, right or wrong, mean the end of civilization? Please elaborate.

    How does sexual egalitarianism, right or wrong, mean the end of civilization? Please elaborate.

    Let me try. An attempt to make true that which is false (sexes are equal; races are equal) leads to further efforts to deny reality, which, over time, will undermine qualities such as honesty that are essential to an advanced civilization.

    An advanced civilization requires a modicum of honesty to be created and to function.

    Nothing good comes from lies.

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    over time, will undermine qualities such as honesty that are essential to an advanced civilization.
     
    A rather attenuated causal relationship, I'd say. The truth is sex denialism is not nearly as counterintuitive as race denialism. The IQ gap between races dwarfs the sex gap. Moreover, it's most visible at the tail ends, which is quite different from the milieu in which most people live put their lives.
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  39. Nike has a sponsorship deal with a very diverse athlete, Tiger Woods. Let Tiger loose in the HR Department and see if that doesn’t help. He has already served his time in sex addiction rehab.

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  40. anonymous[120] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    The NYT is being coy, but judging from the names in an article in the Portland Business Journal, it looks like two of the six were white (including second ranked Jayme Martin), one South Asian, and three black (including top dog Trevor Edwards).

    So, nonwhites make up 1/6th of the Nike executive ranks but 4/6th of the fired executives.

    Solution: hire more nonwhites!
     
    Following this logic, shouldn’t Nike hire more East Asians since the were 0/6th of the fired executives? :)

    Nike recruited, but it didn’t pan out.

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  41. @Rosie

    Y’all can rant and rave about immigrants taking jobs all you want but what if the “immigrant” is a robot or a computer?
     
    Robots and computers don't pose a demographic threat and don't have human rights, at least not yet.

    Guaranteed income is an invitation to sloth but what about letting women stay home again to raise their kids? What about lowering the retirement age so that young people can find jobs? A lot of ideas that may seem radical left/right now may not seem so dumb in the future.
     
    Very sensible. All that would be required is heavy taxation of second incomes to persuade most women to stay home. It's largely what we want to do anyway. You wouldn't even have to explicitly exclude women from the workplace. Traditional gender roles would reassert themselves as a matter of course. Exceptions would be rare and therefore unproblematic.

    All that would be required is heavy taxation of second incomes to persuade most women to stay home.

    It is interesting to think about that in the context of the “marriage penalty” discussion surrounding US income taxes. The push is to move things in the opposite direction from what you propose (why am I not surprised).

    https://taxfoundation.org/understanding-marriage-penalty-and-marriage-bonus/

    That link was one of the few times I have seen the “marriage bonus” aspect discussed. This plot might give some insights into the way the political winds are blowing:

    https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=marriage+penalty%2Cmarriage+bonus&year_start=1960&year_end=2007&corpus=15&smoothing=3

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    It is interesting to think about that in the context of the “marriage penalty” discussion surrounding US income taxes. The push is to move things in the opposite direction from what you propose (why am I not surprised).

    https://taxfoundation.org/understanding-marriage-penalty-and-marriage-bonus/

    That link was one of the few times I have seen the “marriage bonus” aspect discussed. This plot might give some insights into the way the political winds are blowing:
     
    Just guessing, but I doubt Rosie is old enough or married enough to know about the marriage penalty.

    Until Reagan got it eliminated, my income taxes jumped about 20% after I got married.
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  42. @Twinkie

    The NYT is being coy, but judging from the names in an article in the Portland Business Journal, it looks like two of the six were white (including second ranked Jayme Martin), one South Asian, and three black (including top dog Trevor Edwards).

    So, nonwhites make up 1/6th of the Nike executive ranks but 4/6th of the fired executives.

    Solution: hire more nonwhites!
     
    Following this logic, shouldn’t Nike hire more East Asians since the were 0/6th of the fired executives? :)

    I get your joke, but the under/over representation of certain groups becomes even more dramatic when taking into account Nike employee demographics.

    http://fortune.com/2016/05/12/nike-staff-diversity/

    It looks like the real solution is to hire more Hispanics. ;-)

    P.S. From the Footwear News article we have: “In the U.S., 16 percent of vice presidents are nonwhite, she reportedly wrote. (Nike’s diversity report for 2017 also indicates 58 percent of its global workforce is nonwhite and that 23 percent of its directors are nonwhite.)”

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    But that’s the whole staff, not management. I have a hunch that the Hispanic-Asian ratio reverses as the pay grade rises. Latinas sewing shoes aren’t a good target for the #MeToo movement.
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  43. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Lawfare against Richard Spencer.

    Imagine that. Mayor and Police chief shut down legally protected speech and urge antifa to run riot.

    But Spencer and others are getting sued by the Power.

    Now, we know how Palestinians feel. West is one big West Bank.

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    Now, we know how Palestinians feel. West is one big West Bank.
     
    Look, I recognize the upside down nature of what is going on in “the West,” but your statement demonstrates that you don’t understand what is happening with ordinary Palestinians.
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  44. @Rosie

    There may be rare exceptions to this but not many.
     
    Evidence? I rather doubt that women are particularly deficient in management ability. There's a reason they're called "Mom and Pop" stores rather than just "Pop" stores. I don't see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women's competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women's interest in these roles.

    Men are certainly more ambitious and expansive in their outlook, but then that is how we got into this mess, isn't it? The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.

    “Men are certainly more ambitious and expansive in their outlook, but then that is how we got into this mess, isn’t it? The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.”

    Pretty interesting comment there. Really, feminists should be against globalism, since ambitious males just can’t help themselves.

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    Pretty interesting comment there. Really, feminists should be against globalism,
     
    Organized feminism is bankrolled by international financial interests, i.e. Globalists. "Feminist" leaders are bought and paid for shills. They no more represent White women than the Congresswhores represent the American public at large.

    Remember, in Georgia, working-class (not brainwashed) White women voted 70% for Trump. The longer the MGTOW misogynists (Devlin, Black Pigeon, Heartiste) go without addressing the implications of the 2016 vote, the more I suspect they are not just wrong, but rather liars and subversives.

    since ambitious males just can’t help themselves.
     
    True. They see big $$$ signs and just can't resist that cheap labor.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/01/pro-mass-immigration-billionaire-koch-brothers-commit-to-opposing-trumps-effort-to-end-chain-migration/
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  45. @res

    All that would be required is heavy taxation of second incomes to persuade most women to stay home.
     
    It is interesting to think about that in the context of the "marriage penalty" discussion surrounding US income taxes. The push is to move things in the opposite direction from what you propose (why am I not surprised).

    https://taxfoundation.org/understanding-marriage-penalty-and-marriage-bonus/

    That link was one of the few times I have seen the "marriage bonus" aspect discussed. This plot might give some insights into the way the political winds are blowing:

    https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=marriage+penalty%2Cmarriage+bonus&year_start=1960&year_end=2007&corpus=15&smoothing=3

    It is interesting to think about that in the context of the “marriage penalty” discussion surrounding US income taxes. The push is to move things in the opposite direction from what you propose (why am I not surprised).

    https://taxfoundation.org/understanding-marriage-penalty-and-marriage-bonus/

    That link was one of the few times I have seen the “marriage bonus” aspect discussed. This plot might give some insights into the way the political winds are blowing:

    Just guessing, but I doubt Rosie is old enough or married enough to know about the marriage penalty.

    Until Reagan got it eliminated, my income taxes jumped about 20% after I got married.

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    Just guessing, but I doubt Rosie is old enough or married enough to know about the marriage penalty.
     
    LOL @ know-it-all MGTards.
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  46. @Jack D
    HR has been a sort of female ghetto because (1) women are "good with people" and (2) they can be used to fill hiring quotas without doing damage to the actual business of the company (i.e. making and selling stuff). However, I think they will prove to be a fifth column.

    They already are a fifth column. Corporate executives are scared to death of HR, and what HR says isn’t falsifiable because (1) they’re the diverse crowd who care about people, the company’s most important assets of course and (2) they claim to serve as the defense against lawsuits and government regulations which must be complied with.

    And the HR crowd has done a great a job making their bureaucratic utopia a self-fulfilling prophecy through government regulation and lawfare. In an ideal world, HR management would first cut its teeth on the business line, but, as you say, most HR people make HR their career starting in college and are ignorant, or antipathetic, about revenue-generating business.

    Corporate rule by HR, which is not surprisingly the most female and NAM part of most companies, is destroying capitalism. They have been strikingly successful in making big business essentially an arm of the state (which is a characteristic of facism).

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    If corporate executives are scared to death of female-dominated HR, then why don't they use some of their considerable wealth to help bolster the alternative right as a cultural counter-weight? How about it Jeff, Bill and Carlos, why not come to the aid of your embattled fellow white males?
    , @Marty T
    They only exist due to govt regs and lawsuits. We need to get rid of them. After Trump gets re-elected, the entire post-1960 bureaucracy must be eliminated.
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  47. Anonymous[114] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    There may be rare exceptions to this but not many.
     
    Evidence? I rather doubt that women are particularly deficient in management ability. There's a reason they're called "Mom and Pop" stores rather than just "Pop" stores. I don't see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women's competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women's interest in these roles.

    Men are certainly more ambitious and expansive in their outlook, but then that is how we got into this mess, isn't it? The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.

    I don’t see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women’s competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women’s interest in these roles.

    How so?

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    How so?
     
    I think women would just rather be closer to home, tending a small, family business than determining the direction of major multinational corporations. I could be wrong. It's just a hunch.
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  48. Anonymous[114] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    There may be rare exceptions to this but not many.
     
    Evidence? I rather doubt that women are particularly deficient in management ability. There's a reason they're called "Mom and Pop" stores rather than just "Pop" stores. I don't see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women's competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women's interest in these roles.

    Men are certainly more ambitious and expansive in their outlook, but then that is how we got into this mess, isn't it? The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.

    Men are certainly more ambitious and expansive in their outlook, but then that is how we got into this mess, isn’t it? The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.

    Not at all. Greatest force, excluding the Zionists, is female hypergamy, receptivity to more options in mate, and indifference to holding territory and to group loyalty.

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    "Not at all. Greatest force, excluding the Zionists, is female hypergamy, receptivity to more options in mate, and indifference to holding territory and to group loyalty."

    False. Men are more hypergamous than women. We just have different (better) standards.

    https://theblog.okcupid.com/your-looks-and-your-inbox-8715c0f1561e?gi=25259800a565

    White women are also more loyal in mate selection.


    www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?504751-The-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating

    , @Anon
    What’s hypergamy?
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  49. @res
    I get your joke, but the under/over representation of certain groups becomes even more dramatic when taking into account Nike employee demographics.

    http://fortune.com/2016/05/12/nike-staff-diversity/

    https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com%2F2016%2F05%2Fnike-diversity.png

    It looks like the real solution is to hire more Hispanics. ;-)

    P.S. From the Footwear News article we have: "In the U.S., 16 percent of vice presidents are nonwhite, she reportedly wrote. (Nike’s diversity report for 2017 also indicates 58 percent of its global workforce is nonwhite and that 23 percent of its directors are nonwhite.)"

    But that’s the whole staff, not management. I have a hunch that the Hispanic-Asian ratio reverses as the pay grade rises. Latinas sewing shoes aren’t a good target for the #MeToo movement.

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    You are probably correct. I would be interested in what the South/East Asian balance is and if/how it varies between groups.
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  50. @Jack D
    Too bad it's not just HR. Automation is going to kill more jobs than most people can imagine and not just blue collar jobs - in fact many white collar jobs are easier to automate than blue. Y'all can rant and rave about immigrants taking jobs all you want but what if the "immigrant" is a robot or a computer?

    Guaranteed income is an invitation to sloth but what about letting women stay home again to raise their kids? What about lowering the retirement age so that young people can find jobs? A lot of ideas that may seem radical left/right now may not seem so dumb in the future.

    Automation is going to kill more jobs than most people can imagine….

    No, it isn’t.

    Automation is a Rube Goldberg solution to a non-problem that would require phalanxes more office drones to implement and oversee. That is its entire purpose—to divert the revenue stream of productive enterprises from line workers and capex and transfer it to managerial douchebags. But the low hanging fruit of this essentially parasitical strategy has long since been picked. There are numerous signs to indicate that Team D-bag has reached the limit of its strength and is due for a comeuppance. One is that the mystique is finally starting to wear off the tech sector; another is that automation can only develop itself upon an expanding credit base, which simply is not possible in a world of no savings and no growth. Try to imagine a world of generally declining standards of living and increasing anxiety about the future, where all the working men are being asked to support not only a bloated overclass of useless kibbitzers but also their ever-increasing retinue of exigent circus contraptions, and you’ll get a pretty good idea of the prospects of “automation.” Look up Rogaine Musk in a few years for the gritty details.

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  51. @Rosie

    There may be rare exceptions to this but not many.
     
    Evidence? I rather doubt that women are particularly deficient in management ability. There's a reason they're called "Mom and Pop" stores rather than just "Pop" stores. I don't see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women's competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women's interest in these roles.

    Men are certainly more ambitious and expansive in their outlook, but then that is how we got into this mess, isn't it? The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.

    I rather doubt that women are particularly deficient in management ability. There’s a reason they’re called “Mom and Pop” stores rather than just “Pop” stores. I don’t see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women’s competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women’s interest in these roles.

    Scale makes a huge difference. Mom and Pop is the bottom of the ladder when it comes to management.

    You have to know when to get there, unlock the door without tripping the alarm, and get behind the counter. Inventory is walking down the aisle to see what’s sold out, payroll is the two of you, maybe a part timer or two. Most people can do this level of management.

    As the company gets bigger, now you have specialized staff for bookeeping, personel, inventory, marketing, the list goes on. Real early in that expansion, lots of men, and womyn reach their level of competency, they can maybe handle a couple of locations with 100 employees, but the ability to take it to a higher level, national, that’s really rare in one person.

    Guys like our host, Steve, could give you lots of sources with how difficult high level managment truly is, and why so few womyn are there.

    Another thought; 10 years ago or more, there was another womyn with a mindset like yours. She had seen all these womyn with advanced degrees from the most elite schools and there had been hardly any change in the percentage of womyn CEO’s in the previous 20 years.

    So she decided to contact some of these womyn. Her method was the NYT’s wedding announcement pages. Went back into the archives 10 years and noted the womyn with the best pedigree’s and used public records to track them down. The wedding announcement always mentioned the wife’s educational attainments. She wanted the prime beef.

    Interesting what she found. Most of the womyn had married really well, since their male classmates had the best pedigree’s as well. The reason the vast majority gave as to why they weren’t on the corporate ladder was their husband could and did provide a very comfortable living. They saw no reason to bust their ass like their husbands did every day.

    One womyn said her husband was the CEO of the family; he earned the money. She was the CFO, she spent it. LOL

    Womyn have options in life; to work or not. At least a lot of them. Men’s options are to work, or live on the streets. No womyn will want to support a guy, at least among womyn that are lower middle class and above. The underclass, the guys can find womyn that will sometimes do that. Mainly NAMs tho…

    The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.

    No, that’s behind the global population boom. Globalism is the quest to acquire more money so you can attract a better class/looking womyn you can penetrate.

    Aristotle Onasis is on record saying the only reason for making a lot of money are womyn….male sex drive is everything.

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    No, that’s behind the global population boom. Globalism is the quest to acquire more money so you can attract a better class/looking womyn you can penetrate.
     
    No. London is now majority non-White, at least partially as a result of foreign adventuring by White men. It's male... What's that phrase MGTOW like to use?

    Oh yeah, reproductive strategy.

    Male reproductive strategy: expand and penetrate.
    , @Rosie

    Guys like our host, Steve, could give you lots of sources with how difficult high level managment truly is, and why so few womyn are there.
     
    I would very much like to see this evidence. Hopefully, our gracious host will oblige.



    The reason the vast majority gave as to why they weren’t on the corporate ladder was their husband could and did provide a very comfortable living. They saw no reason to bust their ass like their husbands did every day.
     
    How does that support your assertion that women lack managerial ability. I would think it rather suppottay contention that women just aren't interested.


    Womyn have options in life; to work or not.
     
    No, only a few of us have those options. Thanks to greedy male CEOs undercutting working class wages, most of us have to work to make ends meet. Fortunately, I am in the lucky minority. How convenient for them that you blame your problems on women rather than the corporate plutocracy.
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  52. ROTFL

    A yellow named Jeremy who appropriates black culture bitches about ‘ap-PROM-ination’

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  53. So you’re saying that these Nike female employees were sexually harassed in Beaverton?

    The joke writes itself.

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    Something smells fishy
    , @Brutusale
    Every New England town takes pride in their former "Indian" name. My hometown was known by the local Wampanoag tribe as Manamooskeagin, Land of Many Beavers!
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  54. anon[814] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    The NYT is being coy, but judging from the names in an article in the Portland Business Journal, it looks like two of the six were white (including second ranked Jayme Martin), one South Asian, and three black (including top dog Trevor Edwards).

    So, nonwhites make up 1/6th of the Nike executive ranks but 4/6th of the fired executives.

    Solution: hire more nonwhites!
     
    Following this logic, shouldn’t Nike hire more East Asians since the were 0/6th of the fired executives? :)

    Nippo-Korean* athletic and functional shoe designers (in other words not the crazy luxury lines e.g. Louboutin) are in the vanguard. Unlike the process in designing most apparel, designing a sneaker requires aesthetic ability and extensive knowledge of materials and process and an abilty to make the shoe function with the human foot. Conceptually it’s closer to architecture, functionality limits what you can do aesthetically but the aesthetics are what the consumer wants. IMHO it wouldn’t hurt Nike to get more leadership from the design sector. Marketing only gets you so far, you need cool and comfort to sell sneakers and athletic apparel.

    *The China-India designers are not of the same calibre. Don’t know why.

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  55. @Twinkie
    But that’s the whole staff, not management. I have a hunch that the Hispanic-Asian ratio reverses as the pay grade rises. Latinas sewing shoes aren’t a good target for the #MeToo movement.

    You are probably correct. I would be interested in what the South/East Asian balance is and if/how it varies between groups.

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    the South/East Asian balance
     
    I would expect South Asians to be more represented among executives and marketers and East Asians among designers and manufacturing supervisors... not unlike Jewish and Indian/East Asian split at tech firms.
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  56. @Jack D
    Too bad it's not just HR. Automation is going to kill more jobs than most people can imagine and not just blue collar jobs - in fact many white collar jobs are easier to automate than blue. Y'all can rant and rave about immigrants taking jobs all you want but what if the "immigrant" is a robot or a computer?

    Guaranteed income is an invitation to sloth but what about letting women stay home again to raise their kids? What about lowering the retirement age so that young people can find jobs? A lot of ideas that may seem radical left/right now may not seem so dumb in the future.

    Automation is going to kill more jobs than most people can imagine

    Don’t believe the hype.

    The farm tractor was the greatest-ever jobs destroyer, and things worked out fine.

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  57. @gunner29

    It is interesting to think about that in the context of the “marriage penalty” discussion surrounding US income taxes. The push is to move things in the opposite direction from what you propose (why am I not surprised).

    https://taxfoundation.org/understanding-marriage-penalty-and-marriage-bonus/

    That link was one of the few times I have seen the “marriage bonus” aspect discussed. This plot might give some insights into the way the political winds are blowing:
     
    Just guessing, but I doubt Rosie is old enough or married enough to know about the marriage penalty.

    Until Reagan got it eliminated, my income taxes jumped about 20% after I got married.

    Just guessing, but I doubt Rosie is old enough or married enough to know about the marriage penalty.

    LOL @ know-it-all MGTards.

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    Rosie,

    This isn't a good look.

    Do yourself a favor and cut your internet arguing time in half, spend that time on things that will please your husband
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  58. @Jack D
    Nike may have dodged a bullet. Edwards was the crown prince. Usually appointing a black or female CEO is the kiss of death for a big corporation (or a country - see Obama) - a sign that the creative/entrepreneurial/expansionist phase is over and the bureaucratic rot has set in. Blacks/female leadership often ends in disaster but usually at best they serve as a sort of caretaker role - they can take something built by others (whites) and maintain it for a while but they are largely incapable of coming up with anything new or responding to unforeseen crises. There may be rare exceptions to this but not many.

    Usually appointing a black or female CEO is the kiss of death for a big corporation (or a country – see Obama)

    So JC Penney is doomed? And Credit Suisse?

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    JC Penney, yeah. But that has more to do with industry-wide secular decline--the department store format potentially going the way of the dodo-- as with any individual CEO. Former CEO Ron Johnson (from Apple) was the one who really screwed the pooch.

    Hedge funder Eddie Lampert, at Sears, has also fared poorly.
    , @Jack D
    JC Penney - yes

    Credit Suisse - African-Africans are not the same as American blacks.
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  59. You’d think in a company headquartered in Beaverton, you’d have more women. There should be plenty around to hire. It only stands to reason.

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  60. @Anonymous
    Men are certainly more ambitious and expansive in their outlook, but then that is how we got into this mess, isn’t it? The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.

    Not at all. Greatest force, excluding the Zionists, is female hypergamy, receptivity to more options in mate, and indifference to holding territory and to group loyalty.

    “Not at all. Greatest force, excluding the Zionists, is female hypergamy, receptivity to more options in mate, and indifference to holding territory and to group loyalty.”

    False. Men are more hypergamous than women. We just have different (better) standards.

    https://theblog.okcupid.com/your-looks-and-your-inbox-8715c0f1561e?gi=25259800a565

    White women are also more loyal in mate selection.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?504751-The-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating

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  61. @Anonymous
    I don’t see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women’s competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women’s interest in these roles.

    How so?

    How so?

    I think women would just rather be closer to home, tending a small, family business than determining the direction of major multinational corporations. I could be wrong. It’s just a hunch.

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  62. @EdwardM
    They already are a fifth column. Corporate executives are scared to death of HR, and what HR says isn't falsifiable because (1) they're the diverse crowd who care about people, the company's most important assets of course and (2) they claim to serve as the defense against lawsuits and government regulations which must be complied with.

    And the HR crowd has done a great a job making their bureaucratic utopia a self-fulfilling prophecy through government regulation and lawfare. In an ideal world, HR management would first cut its teeth on the business line, but, as you say, most HR people make HR their career starting in college and are ignorant, or antipathetic, about revenue-generating business.

    Corporate rule by HR, which is not surprisingly the most female and NAM part of most companies, is destroying capitalism. They have been strikingly successful in making big business essentially an arm of the state (which is a characteristic of facism).

    If corporate executives are scared to death of female-dominated HR, then why don’t they use some of their considerable wealth to help bolster the alternative right as a cultural counter-weight? How about it Jeff, Bill and Carlos, why not come to the aid of your embattled fellow white males?

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    If corporate executives are scared to death of female-dominated HR, then why don’t they use some of their considerable wealth to help bolster the alternative right as a cultural counter-weight?
     
    LOL. There it is. A very honest bloke, here. Big Money Globalists want White men neutered and cowed. (It's better for bizniss. Hence their support for feminism as we have come to know it, and subversion of a movement to protmote women's well-being.
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  63. @Jack D
    Nike may have dodged a bullet. Edwards was the crown prince. Usually appointing a black or female CEO is the kiss of death for a big corporation (or a country - see Obama) - a sign that the creative/entrepreneurial/expansionist phase is over and the bureaucratic rot has set in. Blacks/female leadership often ends in disaster but usually at best they serve as a sort of caretaker role - they can take something built by others (whites) and maintain it for a while but they are largely incapable of coming up with anything new or responding to unforeseen crises. There may be rare exceptions to this but not many.

    The new head of the National Nuclear Security Administration (it’s the agency responsible for nuclear weapons development and maintenance) is female-the first in the Administration’s history. Any predictions on what this might mean for the U.S. nuclear weapons’ capability?

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    Hey, the United States could use a Chernobyl-style "Zone of Alienation."
    , @Joe Stalin
    As far as I am concerned only North Korea has trustworthy, and by that I mean you push a HV pulse into the detonators and neutron "zipper" source, nuclear explosives. All of our stuff now is simply "cross my fingers and hope that it works" genre.

    We need to immediately withdraw from the nuclear test ban and begin testing of new manufacture nuclear explosives. I want a REAL deterrence based on KNOWN working weapons, and it wouldn't hurt to add some more nukes to the stockpile. Burning all that plutonium from decommissioned nuke warheads to make electricity is just nuts.
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  64. @stillCARealist
    "Men are certainly more ambitious and expansive in their outlook, but then that is how we got into this mess, isn’t it? The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism."

    Pretty interesting comment there. Really, feminists should be against globalism, since ambitious males just can't help themselves.

    Pretty interesting comment there. Really, feminists should be against globalism,

    Organized feminism is bankrolled by international financial interests, i.e. Globalists. “Feminist” leaders are bought and paid for shills. They no more represent White women than the Congresswhores represent the American public at large.

    Remember, in Georgia, working-class (not brainwashed) White women voted 70% for Trump. The longer the MGTOW misogynists (Devlin, Black Pigeon, Heartiste) go without addressing the implications of the 2016 vote, the more I suspect they are not just wrong, but rather liars and subversives.

    since ambitious males just can’t help themselves.

    True. They see big $$$ signs and just can’t resist that cheap labor.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/01/pro-mass-immigration-billionaire-koch-brothers-commit-to-opposing-trumps-effort-to-end-chain-migration/

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    The longer the MGTOW misogynists (Devlin, Black Pigeon, Heartiste) go without addressing the implications of the 2016 vote, the more I suspect they are not just wrong, but rather liars and subversives.
     
    Of course they're liars and subversives. They are among the very worst of the hissing serpents poisoning our society. Even their own words convict them if you're willing to apply a little logic. Out of one side of their mouths they loudly proclaim that "female choice destroys civilizations," while out of the other side they'll tell you to game like a PUA dickhead because "that's what woman want."

    So if we grant for argument's sake that both these statements are in fact true, then why on earth would anyone want to give women what they want, since that would only lead to destruction? The entire point of being a man is to defend, protect, purify, deepen, and advance the essence one carries, which as a practical matter usually means creating and preserving civilization not destroying it. Supposing that female choice can only destroy civilization, then catering to the selfish demands of women is contrary to the essence of masculinity and incompatible with real virtue, real genius, and real creativity.

    Now, I do not accept that these statements are true, and therefore the whole argument falls apart. I only mentioned to show that the mega-toes are incapable of being logical even on their own terms. But the whole attitude is extremely destructive nonetheless. It is in fact a carefully crafted lie designed to exploit the human weaknesses of both sexes.

    The weakness of women consists in the fact that they will accept almost any man if the alternative is being alone. As a man, all you have to do is be there at the right time. Therefore, being a PUA gamer will work, but not for the reasons advanced by the game community. It will work because, if your sole objective is getting laid, all you have to do is keep trying and eventually you'll stumble upon a girl in a receptive mood. No big surprises there.

    Meanwhile, the elaborate rococo nonsense with which the gamers justify themselves---all the evolutionary theory and psychology and whatnot---is designed to trigger the specifically male weakness manifested in the egotism that would fain believe that everything one has or achieves in life is the direct result of one's own power and greatness."If you get the girl," they say, "it is because you are a dominant and superior being."

    Clearly, this is just prying into the gearbox of male insecurity and reprogramming it to beat down the weak defenses of female propriety. There is nothing constructive about any of this. It is a plunge first into barbarism and then into hell. The only manly thing to do is to resist it, no matter what it costs one in popularity. The women who wish to be gamed are not worth winning, and the men who game them are not winners but losers. This is a fundamental truth that has always been known but is currently in eclipse, and the sexual dysfunction of the age is a result of this shadow cast into the hearts of men. To stand fast against the present darkness is always the supreme calling of masculinity. The return of the sun will reveal the brave in their glory and wither the lies of the deceivers.
    , @Whiskey
    We've had make drive and exploration since Henry the Navigator sponsored voyages down Africa in the 1450s and only now are we immivaded? Something tells me millions of problem glasses she women decided to replace us boring beta makes with an extra dose of swagger and child rape.

    Women are the eternal and natural enemy of the White man. They want Game of Thrones, we want Father Knows Best of Leave It to Beaver.

    Trump has been a disaster he got the pussy hat people stirred up without moving power to White men.

    If only White men voted not a single Den would have won going back to Truman.
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  65. @unpc downunder
    If corporate executives are scared to death of female-dominated HR, then why don't they use some of their considerable wealth to help bolster the alternative right as a cultural counter-weight? How about it Jeff, Bill and Carlos, why not come to the aid of your embattled fellow white males?

    If corporate executives are scared to death of female-dominated HR, then why don’t they use some of their considerable wealth to help bolster the alternative right as a cultural counter-weight?

    LOL. There it is. A very honest bloke, here. Big Money Globalists want White men neutered and cowed. (It’s better for bizniss. Hence their support for feminism as we have come to know it, and subversion of a movement to protmote women’s well-being.

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  66. @Rosie

    Just guessing, but I doubt Rosie is old enough or married enough to know about the marriage penalty.
     
    LOL @ know-it-all MGTards.

    Rosie,

    This isn’t a good look.

    Do yourself a favor and cut your internet arguing time in half, spend that time on things that will please your husband

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    This isn’t a good look.
     
    Is that so? Well then, I wonder why I spent a great deal of my youth beating off two-sigma guys with a stick.

    Do yourself a favor and cut your internet arguing time in half, spend that time on things that will please your husband.

     

    Just as soon as you or some other gallant istevers gentleman start speaking the truth on behalf of women, I'll be on my way.

    In these parts, men who defend women from constant slander and insult are disparaged as "White Knights" or "cucks." When we defend ourselves, we're unladylike. I'm not playing by those rules. Sorry, not sorry.
    , @Rosie
    How about this, 27? Is this a "good look"?


    Women are the eternal and natural enemy of the White man.
     
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  67. anon[382] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johann Ricke

    Usually appointing a black or female CEO is the kiss of death for a big corporation (or a country – see Obama)
     
    So JC Penney is doomed? And Credit Suisse?

    JC Penney, yeah. But that has more to do with industry-wide secular decline–the department store format potentially going the way of the dodo– as with any individual CEO. Former CEO Ron Johnson (from Apple) was the one who really screwed the pooch.

    Hedge funder Eddie Lampert, at Sears, has also fared poorly.

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  68. OT Nostalgic For A Solar System I’ve Never Seen
    A while back I mentioned following the irreplaceable Feuilleton, which tracks modern illustration, weird fiction, electronic music and cutting edge art (like Sushi Cats). Its proprietor, the professional artist John Coulthart, is a great illustration of a minor point Steve made a while back that real modern art normally means high-quality magazine illustration, although Coulthart mainly does book covers. Feuilleton is very good about paying attention to the online availability of materials, partly because Coulthart relies heavily on archived copyright-expired lithographs for elaborate digital collages. Twice now the blog has featured a late-seventies science magazine with sci-fi flavoring, which is now available in its entire run free at the Internet Archive. This particular link which I am now pointing up focuses on realistic illustrators of the mid-century magazine cover style who were tapped by NASA and Stanley Kubrick among others to stoke popular excitement for the space program, which I’m guessing a lot of people here would enjoy.

    http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/2018/04/27/the-artists-of-future-life/

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    My favorite sci-fi artist was Kelly Freas
    https://i.pinimg.com/564x/7a/27/85/7a278551149fbd27a84644729e8851d2.jpg
    who was even better doing funny stuff for the early sixties Mad magazine.
    https://i2.wp.com/erichatheway.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Sadder-But-Wiser.jpg?resize=474%2C625
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  70. @JimB
    Wait. What exactly is the creative technology behind Nike? I thought the company was founded on the discovery that you could make shock absorbing souls for running shoes by curing silicone glue in a kitchen waffle iron. The rest of the brand is badly stitched Lycra body condoms stitched in Thailand and hype to the urban market.

    shock absorbing souls

    Too. Funny.

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    Yeah.
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  71. @Anon
    Lawfare against Richard Spencer.

    Imagine that. Mayor and Police chief shut down legally protected speech and urge antifa to run riot.

    But Spencer and others are getting sued by the Power.

    Now, we know how Palestinians feel. West is one big West Bank.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjkYRN2i6wg

    Now, we know how Palestinians feel. West is one big West Bank.

    Look, I recognize the upside down nature of what is going on in “the West,” but your statement demonstrates that you don’t understand what is happening with ordinary Palestinians.

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  72. @Johann Ricke

    Usually appointing a black or female CEO is the kiss of death for a big corporation (or a country – see Obama)
     
    So JC Penney is doomed? And Credit Suisse?

    JC Penney – yes

    Credit Suisse – African-Africans are not the same as American blacks.

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  73. Pardon me, but did the British Home Secretary just get fired for having “a target of achieving 12,800 enforced returns in 2017-18”. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/29/amber-rudd-resigns-as-home-secretary-after-windrush-scandal

    Wild how far out of the mainstream you posers are with the rest of your society.

    I’ll admit to being entertained though.

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  74. @Anonymous

    Nike’s chief human resources officer, Monique Matheson
     
    Has anyone looked into the disparate impact of human resources department staffing? Shouldn't there be a quota to increase the number of men in those departments?

    The writer of the quoted article from the trade publicaiton Footwear News, Sheena Butler-Young, has something seriously disturbing going on with her eyebrows. Cholla fashion from back issues of Teen Angels has crossed the ethnic divide.

    21224118_267747590409694_5700142881419821056_n.jpg

    I have never heard of, read an email by, or talked on the phone to, any man in HR in my whole life. HR is the scourge of the business world (more here, and here).

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  75. @eah
    https://twitter.com/DrTeckKhong/status/990114045859639296

    Maybe all the women at Nike should be issued with Underarmor.

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  76. @res
    You are probably correct. I would be interested in what the South/East Asian balance is and if/how it varies between groups.

    the South/East Asian balance

    I would expect South Asians to be more represented among executives and marketers and East Asians among designers and manufacturing supervisors… not unlike Jewish and Indian/East Asian split at tech firms.

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  77. @27 year old
    Rosie,

    This isn't a good look.

    Do yourself a favor and cut your internet arguing time in half, spend that time on things that will please your husband

    This isn’t a good look.

    Is that so? Well then, I wonder why I spent a great deal of my youth beating off two-sigma guys with a stick.

    Do yourself a favor and cut your internet arguing time in half, spend that time on things that will please your husband.

    Just as soon as you or some other gallant istevers gentleman start speaking the truth on behalf of women, I’ll be on my way.

    In these parts, men who defend women from constant slander and insult are disparaged as “White Knights” or “cucks.” When we defend ourselves, we’re unladylike. I’m not playing by those rules. Sorry, not sorry.

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    Generally, a man has to choose between speaking the truth to women OR being “gallant”.
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  78. @Steve Sailer
    I'll steal that.

    I hope El Dato is not a Person of Color! The white man has stolen enough.

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  79. @HenryA
    For the life of me I can't understand why Nike, a sneaker company is as big as it is. Look at most of their products. Their business model seems to be selling brightly colored clown shoes to Black teenagers. And yet they make billions.

    Henry, don’t you know cool kicks make you cool. It’s all about the look. That’s why there is such a market for knock offs.

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  80. @Andrew M
    Easy solution: only hire female non-whites. They’re a diversity two-fer.

    I used to hire (and fire) programmers. I can’t remember any women programmers who worked for me and only two blacks – both of whom I fired.

    When I worked in government I once had several hundred women working for me and only three males. The requirements of various real world workplaces don’t correspond to the expectations of the social planners.

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    Here's an ex-Googler woman-of-color feminist programmer who was involved in hiring and diversity at Google. The problem? The female coder applicant pool is tiny, especially for advanced or esoteric skills and experience.

    https://medium.com/the-mission/im-an-ex-google-woman-tech-leader-and-i-m-sick-of-our-approach-to-diversity-17008c5fe999


    It’s not like I wasn’t trying to hire women. But I was working with a candidate pool composed of 90% men. Try software engineers with experience in sensors, wireless and hardware stacks before angrily correcting my stats there. There was no way I was going to come out of that with a larger percentage of women hires than I did.
     
    She quit and started her own company.

    I left Google to build UrbanAMA. As a woman entrepreneur, I wanted to build a company that had a diverse team. I’m ashamed to admit that I’ve failed miserably so far.

    We try hard, but again find ourselves with a 98% male candidate pool. You should know that we are an early stage startup that cannot afford market salaries. Despite that, we paid premium salaries to bring a few women who did well in our interviews. But, they lacked the energy to put us into overdrive. Worse, they were starting to drain the energy from the rest of the team. Eventually, we had to do the right thing for the company and let them go. I’m now back to being the only woman on the (tech) team.
     

    By the way, there's a really great woman coder at Microsoft, Dona Sarkar. How do I know? I heard her presentation about how great it is to code. In fact, that seems to be her job now, going around telling girls how great a coding job is. Too bad she doesn't seem to have so much time to actually code herself anymore.

    She talks about how she realized how much she loved coding when her boss sent her to Europe to help troubleshoot a software application problem. She met with customers, watched them use the software, figured out the problem, and communicated with the coders back home how to fix it. She went on to do more of this, which she loved, which unfortunately took her away from actual coding. By the way, she has a fashion line on the side. I'm wondering whether male coders are allowed to operate a business on the side while working at Microsoft. Grrrrlz who Code!

    , @gunner29

    I used to hire (and fire) programmers. I can’t remember any women programmers who worked for me and only two blacks – both of whom I fired.

    When I worked in government I once had several hundred women working for me and only three males. The requirements of various real world workplaces don’t correspond to the expectations of the social planners.
     
    If you had fired those 3 males, then you would of had true diversity! LOL


    But it's amazing the number of guys that have no idea their head is near the chopping block. Morons still think womyn are working with them. They aren't.

    Left coast place I worked at didn't promote a white womyn to upper management. They eventually paid her and her lawyer $1.5 million to go away. She was sure that was her job, and it was sexism.

    For the next 15 years they were on a crusade to get every femail and minority into management, so they could maybe defend themselves when the inevitable discrimination lawsuit was filed in a left wing court with a left wing jury pool.
    , @Bill jones
    Sounds about right.
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  81. @Rosie

    Will the Chinese swallow the cuck hook and bring thousands of years of civilization to an end, or will the Middle Kingdom shrug off the heavy hand of Western Imperialist hegemony?
     
    People who believe men and women are the same are wrong, but they are not cucks.

    How does sexual egalitarianism, right or wrong, mean the end of civilization? Please elaborate.

    Because civilizations need strong identities and traditions to endure. Asserting that men and women are the same is the same kind of logic that allows people to contend that “America could be 100% Chinese, and it would still be America, not China!” Distinctions are important; otherwise, whites will end up a bunch of deracinated individuals who get outcompeted by more cohesive groups.

    Oops, too late!

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    Because civilizations need strong identities and traditions to endure. Asserting that men and women are the same is the same kind of logic that allows people to contend that “America could be 100% Chinese, and it would still be America, not China!” Distinctions are important; otherwise, whites will end up a bunch of deracinated individuals who get outcompeted by more cohesive groups.
     
    I don't disagree with any of your major claims. I just don't agree that sex denialism necessarily leads to race denialism and therefore cultural disintegration. Now feminism may reduce birth rates, though how much it does so is very much open to doubt, since European nations that have most enthusiastically embraced feminism (the Nordics) have healthier birth rates than relatively more traditional Southern Europeans.

    The common thread is decadent individualism, or the desire for a "dulce vita" as PJB calls it.
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  82. @Diversity Heretic
    The new head of the National Nuclear Security Administration (it's the agency responsible for nuclear weapons development and maintenance) is female-the first in the Administration's history. Any predictions on what this might mean for the U.S. nuclear weapons' capability?

    Hey, the United States could use a Chernobyl-style “Zone of Alienation.”

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  83. @JohnnyWalker123
    So you're saying that these Nike female employees were sexually harassed in Beaverton?

    The joke writes itself.

    Something smells fishy

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  84. @Barnard
    The only bad stretch the McDonald's share price has had in the last 20 years was when they had a black CEO.

    So are you loading up on NKE ? Closed at 69.56 USD +1.50 (2.20%) on Friday.

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  85. anonymous[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @HenryA
    For the life of me I can't understand why Nike, a sneaker company is as big as it is. Look at most of their products. Their business model seems to be selling brightly colored clown shoes to Black teenagers. And yet they make billions.

    Their business model seems to be selling brightly colored clown shoes to Black teenagers. And yet they make billions.

    Nike sells more than 100 million pairs of shoes each year. Style matters to many people. It’s very hard to find an American who hasn’t worn a pair of Nikes at some point in the last 45 years. I did road work in PF Flyers back in the 60s/70s, it hurt, modern running shoes are a huge improvement.

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    I can remember my first pair of Reeboks around 1986: they were so superior in lightness and comfort to anything I wore before.

    Shoes really are a whole lot better than when I was a kid.

    , @E. Rekshun
    I did road work in PF Flyers back in the 60s/70s, it hurt, modern running shoes are a huge improvement.

    I needed a good pair of running shoes for my 1977 high school freshman year cross-country team. I paid $20 for a used pair of Nike that fit from a teammate, and ran them for four years. Today, I spend about $50 for Nike or Fila and get about six months out of them.
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  86. @Rosie

    Pretty interesting comment there. Really, feminists should be against globalism,
     
    Organized feminism is bankrolled by international financial interests, i.e. Globalists. "Feminist" leaders are bought and paid for shills. They no more represent White women than the Congresswhores represent the American public at large.

    Remember, in Georgia, working-class (not brainwashed) White women voted 70% for Trump. The longer the MGTOW misogynists (Devlin, Black Pigeon, Heartiste) go without addressing the implications of the 2016 vote, the more I suspect they are not just wrong, but rather liars and subversives.

    since ambitious males just can’t help themselves.
     
    True. They see big $$$ signs and just can't resist that cheap labor.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/01/pro-mass-immigration-billionaire-koch-brothers-commit-to-opposing-trumps-effort-to-end-chain-migration/

    The longer the MGTOW misogynists (Devlin, Black Pigeon, Heartiste) go without addressing the implications of the 2016 vote, the more I suspect they are not just wrong, but rather liars and subversives.

    Of course they’re liars and subversives. They are among the very worst of the hissing serpents poisoning our society. Even their own words convict them if you’re willing to apply a little logic. Out of one side of their mouths they loudly proclaim that “female choice destroys civilizations,” while out of the other side they’ll tell you to game like a PUA dickhead because “that’s what woman want.”

    So if we grant for argument’s sake that both these statements are in fact true, then why on earth would anyone want to give women what they want, since that would only lead to destruction? The entire point of being a man is to defend, protect, purify, deepen, and advance the essence one carries, which as a practical matter usually means creating and preserving civilization not destroying it. Supposing that female choice can only destroy civilization, then catering to the selfish demands of women is contrary to the essence of masculinity and incompatible with real virtue, real genius, and real creativity.

    Now, I do not accept that these statements are true, and therefore the whole argument falls apart. I only mentioned to show that the mega-toes are incapable of being logical even on their own terms. But the whole attitude is extremely destructive nonetheless. It is in fact a carefully crafted lie designed to exploit the human weaknesses of both sexes.

    The weakness of women consists in the fact that they will accept almost any man if the alternative is being alone. As a man, all you have to do is be there at the right time. Therefore, being a PUA gamer will work, but not for the reasons advanced by the game community. It will work because, if your sole objective is getting laid, all you have to do is keep trying and eventually you’ll stumble upon a girl in a receptive mood. No big surprises there.

    Meanwhile, the elaborate rococo nonsense with which the gamers justify themselves—all the evolutionary theory and psychology and whatnot—is designed to trigger the specifically male weakness manifested in the egotism that would fain believe that everything one has or achieves in life is the direct result of one’s own power and greatness.”If you get the girl,” they say, “it is because you are a dominant and superior being.”

    Clearly, this is just prying into the gearbox of male insecurity and reprogramming it to beat down the weak defenses of female propriety. There is nothing constructive about any of this. It is a plunge first into barbarism and then into hell. The only manly thing to do is to resist it, no matter what it costs one in popularity. The women who wish to be gamed are not worth winning, and the men who game them are not winners but losers. This is a fundamental truth that has always been known but is currently in eclipse, and the sexual dysfunction of the age is a result of this shadow cast into the hearts of men. To stand fast against the present darkness is always the supreme calling of masculinity. The return of the sun will reveal the brave in their glory and wither the lies of the deceivers.

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    The only manly thing to do is to resist it, no matter what it costs one in popularity.
     
    I don't think most men agree with these people. The trouble is they don't have the intellectual resources to defend themselves against the ridicule and other dirty MGTOW tricks they use, not because they're not smart, but simply because they've not thought deeply about this particular issue. They're much more interested in other things, which is perfectly understandable and appropriate.

    I'm trying to provide those resources.
    , @anonguy
    Dude, you're killing it with your comments, best on iSteve, although res gives you a run for it on occasion.
    , @Whiskey
    PUA dudes get men laid. And you offer incel hell, Supreme Gentlemen Elliot Rodger.

    Guess which way men are voting. Life is simple and brutal. Either you and yours dominate or some other group of men will do so and if you are lucky merely enslave you.
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  87. @Jack D
    HR has been a sort of female ghetto because (1) women are "good with people" and (2) they can be used to fill hiring quotas without doing damage to the actual business of the company (i.e. making and selling stuff). However, I think they will prove to be a fifth column.

    Women do very little work that really needs to be done.

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    I've spent some time reading 19th century American periodicals, including those aimed at women. One thing that I can tell you is that women had skillz in those days! The kind of cooking done was much more sophisticated than today, including chem lab level candy making. Sewing was not just using patterns, but doing the size grading yourself and truing all the pattern pieces to work with the new size. And most women could play the piano at a really high level before recorded music. Josef Hoffman, student of Anton Rubinstein, and quite a famous pianist and composer at the time, had a piano Q and A column in the Ladies Home Journal that dealt with astoundingly advanced piano repertory and topics, based on readers' questions.
    , @Rosie

    Women do very little work that really needs to be done.
     
    What laughable (and outrageous) nonsense! Women have been teachers, nurses, and social workers since forever. Career girls used to dress like this.

    http://nebula.wsimg.com/b803edaf2a117a8dd5165eb3204175ec?AccessKeyId=FD4BF10CF46A75C440C2&disposition=0&alloworigin=1
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  88. Anon[328] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pat Boyle
    I used to hire (and fire) programmers. I can't remember any women programmers who worked for me and only two blacks - both of whom I fired.

    When I worked in government I once had several hundred women working for me and only three males. The requirements of various real world workplaces don't correspond to the expectations of the social planners.

    Here’s an ex-Googler woman-of-color feminist programmer who was involved in hiring and diversity at Google. The problem? The female coder applicant pool is tiny, especially for advanced or esoteric skills and experience.

    https://medium.com/the-mission/im-an-ex-google-woman-tech-leader-and-i-m-sick-of-our-approach-to-diversity-17008c5fe999

    It’s not like I wasn’t trying to hire women. But I was working with a candidate pool composed of 90% men. Try software engineers with experience in sensors, wireless and hardware stacks before angrily correcting my stats there. There was no way I was going to come out of that with a larger percentage of women hires than I did.

    She quit and started her own company.

    I left Google to build UrbanAMA. As a woman entrepreneur, I wanted to build a company that had a diverse team. I’m ashamed to admit that I’ve failed miserably so far.

    We try hard, but again find ourselves with a 98% male candidate pool. You should know that we are an early stage startup that cannot afford market salaries. Despite that, we paid premium salaries to bring a few women who did well in our interviews. But, they lacked the energy to put us into overdrive. Worse, they were starting to drain the energy from the rest of the team. Eventually, we had to do the right thing for the company and let them go. I’m now back to being the only woman on the (tech) team.

    By the way, there’s a really great woman coder at Microsoft, Dona Sarkar. How do I know? I heard her presentation about how great it is to code. In fact, that seems to be her job now, going around telling girls how great a coding job is. Too bad she doesn’t seem to have so much time to actually code herself anymore.

    She talks about how she realized how much she loved coding when her boss sent her to Europe to help troubleshoot a software application problem. She met with customers, watched them use the software, figured out the problem, and communicated with the coders back home how to fix it. She went on to do more of this, which she loved, which unfortunately took her away from actual coding. By the way, she has a fashion line on the side. I’m wondering whether male coders are allowed to operate a business on the side while working at Microsoft. Grrrrlz who Code!

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    Note I didn't write that there were no women who can code - only that in many years of hiring, and supervising coders I never could remember in having had one. I was quite sure that if anyone replied to my comment there would be someone who would point out some great female coder they once knew. This what they call the exception that proves the rule.

    The pattern that I observed at several private industry companies was that the technical people were all white men or Chinese. White men here includes Indians (meaning from India).

    In my areas in private industry there plenty of women in marketing but the engineers, coders and data base analysts were almost exclusively male. When I checked this with Google (the information resource not the company) that seems to be the general pattern too.

    Government was different. There you would find mostly women in the kinds of semi-technical kind of paper pushing jobs I once supervised. I did finance and budgeting in those days. All the lower level accounting jobs were almost exclusively female as well as the welfare workers. Women dominated the eligibility worker and account clerk positions of which there were a great many. So in the published summary statistics there is an impression that females are often employed in math related areas. But that impression obscure the reality that women are usually employed in 'low' math not 'high' math. There are many exceptions but please don't bother to tell me of a brilliant women you once knew who was an exception. I was speaking to a predominant pattern that SJWs wish to obscure with anecdotes.
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  90. @anonymous

    Their business model seems to be selling brightly colored clown shoes to Black teenagers. And yet they make billions.
     
    Nike sells more than 100 million pairs of shoes each year. Style matters to many people. It’s very hard to find an American who hasn’t worn a pair of Nikes at some point in the last 45 years. I did road work in PF Flyers back in the 60s/70s, it hurt, modern running shoes are a huge improvement.

    I can remember my first pair of Reeboks around 1986: they were so superior in lightness and comfort to anything I wore before.

    Shoes really are a whole lot better than when I was a kid.

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    I can remember my first pair of Reeboks around 1986: they were so superior in lightness and comfort to anything I wore before.
     
    But how long did they last? I bought some Nike Lava Dome textile hiking boots about the same time.. 2/3 the weight of the Italian leather hiking boots I'd worn the previous 12 years.

    I was not a happy camper when the sole pealed off 7 miles from the car...

    Back to the leather Italian boots....
    , @Pericles
    I'm younger than Steve and I wore wooden clogs for a few years when I was a kid. Not kidding.
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  91. @Rosie

    This isn’t a good look.
     
    Is that so? Well then, I wonder why I spent a great deal of my youth beating off two-sigma guys with a stick.

    Do yourself a favor and cut your internet arguing time in half, spend that time on things that will please your husband.

     

    Just as soon as you or some other gallant istevers gentleman start speaking the truth on behalf of women, I'll be on my way.

    In these parts, men who defend women from constant slander and insult are disparaged as "White Knights" or "cucks." When we defend ourselves, we're unladylike. I'm not playing by those rules. Sorry, not sorry.

    Generally, a man has to choose between speaking the truth to women OR being “gallant”.

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    Generally, a man has to choose between speaking the truth to women OR being “gallant”.
     
    Then why is the comment section on this website so rife with outright lies about women? You tell me.
    , @Twinkie

    Generally, a man has to choose between speaking the truth to women OR being “gallant”.
     
    I am generally chivalrous toward women and I tend to be pretty blunt. But I am usually gentlemanly about the way I am blunt. Indeed, there is being blunt, and there is being crude. Women of good sense and breeding (there are still some left) don't mind bluntness, but they certainly don't look kindly upon men who are crude.
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  92. @Bay Area Guy
    Because civilizations need strong identities and traditions to endure. Asserting that men and women are the same is the same kind of logic that allows people to contend that "America could be 100% Chinese, and it would still be America, not China!" Distinctions are important; otherwise, whites will end up a bunch of deracinated individuals who get outcompeted by more cohesive groups.

    Oops, too late!

    Because civilizations need strong identities and traditions to endure. Asserting that men and women are the same is the same kind of logic that allows people to contend that “America could be 100% Chinese, and it would still be America, not China!” Distinctions are important; otherwise, whites will end up a bunch of deracinated individuals who get outcompeted by more cohesive groups.

    I don’t disagree with any of your major claims. I just don’t agree that sex denialism necessarily leads to race denialism and therefore cultural disintegration. Now feminism may reduce birth rates, though how much it does so is very much open to doubt, since European nations that have most enthusiastically embraced feminism (the Nordics) have healthier birth rates than relatively more traditional Southern Europeans.

    The common thread is decadent individualism, or the desire for a “dulce vita” as PJB calls it.

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    I actually don't blame feminism for low birth rates, since countries like Japan and South Korea - not exactly SJW cesspools - are also plagued by low birth rates. It seems that low fertility is a common affliction for wealthy nations.

    (that doesn't explain why poorer Eastern European countries also have relatively low fertility rates, but that's another topic)

    Sex denialism by itself may not destroy nations. However, as Keith Alexander of The Political Cesspool has pointed out on many occasions, you can't let the camel's nose in the tent. In other words, once you begin accepting the premises of the cultural left, then it all begins to fall apart.

    Whether it was abolitionism and the women's suffrage movement coexisting during the mid 19th century, second wave feminism following the civil rights/black power movement, or #MeToo and #BLM sharing the same space, the historical record makes it abundantly clear that there is an SJW domino effect.

    I'm not interested in debating the merits of women's suffrage or contending that slavery was a good thing; but the point I'm trying to make is that once you let SJWs take an inch, they'll take a mile. It's not like a nation can be both gender queer friendly and also embrace race realism. With SJWs, you get the whole package.
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  93. Anon[820] • Disclaimer says:
    @Curtis Mouser I
    Women will always struggle to attain top positions in anything because of the greater standard deviation of men in virtually all metrics. Are they going to female-dog about disproportionate men in prison, mental hospitals, workplace deaths, murder victims etc... Thought not.

    Maybe not just standard deviation. Richard Lynn is saying that women’s mean IQ is a quarter SD lower than men’s. Not a big deal … except at the extreme right end. So women, mean 98, SD 14, men, mean 102, SD 16. The IQ difference varies by tested subset, so women do better in some specific tasks.

    http://www.mankindquarterly.org/archive/issue/58-1 (and James Flynn makes an appearance in a rebuttal)

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  94. @Diversity Heretic
    The new head of the National Nuclear Security Administration (it's the agency responsible for nuclear weapons development and maintenance) is female-the first in the Administration's history. Any predictions on what this might mean for the U.S. nuclear weapons' capability?

    As far as I am concerned only North Korea has trustworthy, and by that I mean you push a HV pulse into the detonators and neutron “zipper” source, nuclear explosives. All of our stuff now is simply “cross my fingers and hope that it works” genre.

    We need to immediately withdraw from the nuclear test ban and begin testing of new manufacture nuclear explosives. I want a REAL deterrence based on KNOWN working weapons, and it wouldn’t hurt to add some more nukes to the stockpile. Burning all that plutonium from decommissioned nuke warheads to make electricity is just nuts.

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  95. @EdwardM
    They already are a fifth column. Corporate executives are scared to death of HR, and what HR says isn't falsifiable because (1) they're the diverse crowd who care about people, the company's most important assets of course and (2) they claim to serve as the defense against lawsuits and government regulations which must be complied with.

    And the HR crowd has done a great a job making their bureaucratic utopia a self-fulfilling prophecy through government regulation and lawfare. In an ideal world, HR management would first cut its teeth on the business line, but, as you say, most HR people make HR their career starting in college and are ignorant, or antipathetic, about revenue-generating business.

    Corporate rule by HR, which is not surprisingly the most female and NAM part of most companies, is destroying capitalism. They have been strikingly successful in making big business essentially an arm of the state (which is a characteristic of facism).

    They only exist due to govt regs and lawsuits. We need to get rid of them. After Trump gets re-elected, the entire post-1960 bureaucracy must be eliminated.

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  96. Anonymous[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @Marty T
    Women do very little work that really needs to be done.

    I’ve spent some time reading 19th century American periodicals, including those aimed at women. One thing that I can tell you is that women had skillz in those days! The kind of cooking done was much more sophisticated than today, including chem lab level candy making. Sewing was not just using patterns, but doing the size grading yourself and truing all the pattern pieces to work with the new size. And most women could play the piano at a really high level before recorded music. Josef Hoffman, student of Anton Rubinstein, and quite a famous pianist and composer at the time, had a piano Q and A column in the Ladies Home Journal that dealt with astoundingly advanced piano repertory and topics, based on readers’ questions.

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    And most women could play the piano at a really high level before recorded music

    If by "most women" , you mean one tenth of 1 per cent.
    , @Anonymous
    Most "ladies", that is to say women raised in a middle or upper class home with some pretensions to refinement, could play a musical instrument at some level, but rarely at what we would today call a professional level. Maybe one or two percent could by today's standards pass an audition for admittance at a conservatory if that. But they could play the popular hymns and sing along tunes of the day.

    Piano was popular but so was guitar: before Saint Segovia made it a concert instrument, they had Tarrega and Sor, and the guitar was played either by upscale females as a parlor instrument or in bars by drunks and gypsies. (Alas, the guitar wielding singing cowboy was mostly the stuff of Hollywood: 'oaters' or 'horse operas' could be shot 90 minutes from LA even on the roads of the day, so a lot were made.) Bowed strings and concertina or accordion were also somewhat popular , as were banjos, mandolins, and in the last days of the phenomenon, electric steel guitar.

    Organs, reed organs pumped manually and later occasionally electrified with a Hoover motor, were also a parlor standby and that led to the home organ craze of the 50s and 60s. Now, the last holdout of that is the Lowrey company, which trains its dealers to efficiently take advantage of semicoherent very old people.

    What killed all this? Availability of recorded music played by full time professionals. Few amateurs sound very good on any instrument as compared to recordings of top pros. Plus which, people don't do stuff at home together any more.
    , @Anonymous
    Most "ladies", that is to say women raised in a middle or upper class home with some pretensions to refinement, could play a musical instrument at some level, but rarely at what we would today call a professional level. Maybe one or two percent could by today's standards pass an audition for admittance at a conservatory if that. But they could play the popular hymns and sing along tunes of the day.

    Piano was popular but so was guitar: before Saint Segovia made it a concert instrument, they had Tarrega and Sor, and the guitar was played either by upscale females as a parlor instrument or in bars by drunks and gypsies. (Alas, the guitar wielding singing cowboy was mostly the stuff of Hollywood: 'oaters' or 'horse operas' could be shot 90 minutes from LA even on the roads of the day, so a lot were made.) Bowed strings and concertina or accordion were also somewhat popular , as were banjos, mandolins, and in the last days of the phenomenon, electric steel guitar.

    Organs, reed organs pumped manually and later occasionally electrified with a Hoover motor, were also a parlor standby and that led to the home organ craze of the 50s and 60s. Now, the last holdout of that is the Lowrey company, which trains its dealers to efficiently take advantage of semicoherent very old people.

    What killed all this? Availability of recorded music played by full time professionals. Few amateurs sound very good on any instrument as compared to recordings of top pros. Plus which, people don't do stuff at home together any more.
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  97. @Marty T
    Women do very little work that really needs to be done.

    Women do very little work that really needs to be done.

    What laughable (and outrageous) nonsense! Women have been teachers, nurses, and social workers since forever. Career girls used to dress like this.

    http://nebula.wsimg.com/b803edaf2a117a8dd5165eb3204175ec?AccessKeyId=FD4BF10CF46A75C440C2&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

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    Understand that quite a few of women comprising one group you mention, nurses, would consign one of the others, social workers, to the deepest pits of Hell.
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  98. @Intelligent Dasein

    The longer the MGTOW misogynists (Devlin, Black Pigeon, Heartiste) go without addressing the implications of the 2016 vote, the more I suspect they are not just wrong, but rather liars and subversives.
     
    Of course they're liars and subversives. They are among the very worst of the hissing serpents poisoning our society. Even their own words convict them if you're willing to apply a little logic. Out of one side of their mouths they loudly proclaim that "female choice destroys civilizations," while out of the other side they'll tell you to game like a PUA dickhead because "that's what woman want."

    So if we grant for argument's sake that both these statements are in fact true, then why on earth would anyone want to give women what they want, since that would only lead to destruction? The entire point of being a man is to defend, protect, purify, deepen, and advance the essence one carries, which as a practical matter usually means creating and preserving civilization not destroying it. Supposing that female choice can only destroy civilization, then catering to the selfish demands of women is contrary to the essence of masculinity and incompatible with real virtue, real genius, and real creativity.

    Now, I do not accept that these statements are true, and therefore the whole argument falls apart. I only mentioned to show that the mega-toes are incapable of being logical even on their own terms. But the whole attitude is extremely destructive nonetheless. It is in fact a carefully crafted lie designed to exploit the human weaknesses of both sexes.

    The weakness of women consists in the fact that they will accept almost any man if the alternative is being alone. As a man, all you have to do is be there at the right time. Therefore, being a PUA gamer will work, but not for the reasons advanced by the game community. It will work because, if your sole objective is getting laid, all you have to do is keep trying and eventually you'll stumble upon a girl in a receptive mood. No big surprises there.

    Meanwhile, the elaborate rococo nonsense with which the gamers justify themselves---all the evolutionary theory and psychology and whatnot---is designed to trigger the specifically male weakness manifested in the egotism that would fain believe that everything one has or achieves in life is the direct result of one's own power and greatness."If you get the girl," they say, "it is because you are a dominant and superior being."

    Clearly, this is just prying into the gearbox of male insecurity and reprogramming it to beat down the weak defenses of female propriety. There is nothing constructive about any of this. It is a plunge first into barbarism and then into hell. The only manly thing to do is to resist it, no matter what it costs one in popularity. The women who wish to be gamed are not worth winning, and the men who game them are not winners but losers. This is a fundamental truth that has always been known but is currently in eclipse, and the sexual dysfunction of the age is a result of this shadow cast into the hearts of men. To stand fast against the present darkness is always the supreme calling of masculinity. The return of the sun will reveal the brave in their glory and wither the lies of the deceivers.

    The only manly thing to do is to resist it, no matter what it costs one in popularity.

    I don’t think most men agree with these people. The trouble is they don’t have the intellectual resources to defend themselves against the ridicule and other dirty MGTOW tricks they use, not because they’re not smart, but simply because they’ve not thought deeply about this particular issue. They’re much more interested in other things, which is perfectly understandable and appropriate.

    I’m trying to provide those resources.

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  99. @Intelligent Dasein

    The longer the MGTOW misogynists (Devlin, Black Pigeon, Heartiste) go without addressing the implications of the 2016 vote, the more I suspect they are not just wrong, but rather liars and subversives.
     
    Of course they're liars and subversives. They are among the very worst of the hissing serpents poisoning our society. Even their own words convict them if you're willing to apply a little logic. Out of one side of their mouths they loudly proclaim that "female choice destroys civilizations," while out of the other side they'll tell you to game like a PUA dickhead because "that's what woman want."

    So if we grant for argument's sake that both these statements are in fact true, then why on earth would anyone want to give women what they want, since that would only lead to destruction? The entire point of being a man is to defend, protect, purify, deepen, and advance the essence one carries, which as a practical matter usually means creating and preserving civilization not destroying it. Supposing that female choice can only destroy civilization, then catering to the selfish demands of women is contrary to the essence of masculinity and incompatible with real virtue, real genius, and real creativity.

    Now, I do not accept that these statements are true, and therefore the whole argument falls apart. I only mentioned to show that the mega-toes are incapable of being logical even on their own terms. But the whole attitude is extremely destructive nonetheless. It is in fact a carefully crafted lie designed to exploit the human weaknesses of both sexes.

    The weakness of women consists in the fact that they will accept almost any man if the alternative is being alone. As a man, all you have to do is be there at the right time. Therefore, being a PUA gamer will work, but not for the reasons advanced by the game community. It will work because, if your sole objective is getting laid, all you have to do is keep trying and eventually you'll stumble upon a girl in a receptive mood. No big surprises there.

    Meanwhile, the elaborate rococo nonsense with which the gamers justify themselves---all the evolutionary theory and psychology and whatnot---is designed to trigger the specifically male weakness manifested in the egotism that would fain believe that everything one has or achieves in life is the direct result of one's own power and greatness."If you get the girl," they say, "it is because you are a dominant and superior being."

    Clearly, this is just prying into the gearbox of male insecurity and reprogramming it to beat down the weak defenses of female propriety. There is nothing constructive about any of this. It is a plunge first into barbarism and then into hell. The only manly thing to do is to resist it, no matter what it costs one in popularity. The women who wish to be gamed are not worth winning, and the men who game them are not winners but losers. This is a fundamental truth that has always been known but is currently in eclipse, and the sexual dysfunction of the age is a result of this shadow cast into the hearts of men. To stand fast against the present darkness is always the supreme calling of masculinity. The return of the sun will reveal the brave in their glory and wither the lies of the deceivers.

    Dude, you’re killing it with your comments, best on iSteve, although res gives you a run for it on occasion.

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  100. @Rosie

    Because civilizations need strong identities and traditions to endure. Asserting that men and women are the same is the same kind of logic that allows people to contend that “America could be 100% Chinese, and it would still be America, not China!” Distinctions are important; otherwise, whites will end up a bunch of deracinated individuals who get outcompeted by more cohesive groups.
     
    I don't disagree with any of your major claims. I just don't agree that sex denialism necessarily leads to race denialism and therefore cultural disintegration. Now feminism may reduce birth rates, though how much it does so is very much open to doubt, since European nations that have most enthusiastically embraced feminism (the Nordics) have healthier birth rates than relatively more traditional Southern Europeans.

    The common thread is decadent individualism, or the desire for a "dulce vita" as PJB calls it.

    I actually don’t blame feminism for low birth rates, since countries like Japan and South Korea – not exactly SJW cesspools – are also plagued by low birth rates. It seems that low fertility is a common affliction for wealthy nations.

    (that doesn’t explain why poorer Eastern European countries also have relatively low fertility rates, but that’s another topic)

    Sex denialism by itself may not destroy nations. However, as Keith Alexander of The Political Cesspool has pointed out on many occasions, you can’t let the camel’s nose in the tent. In other words, once you begin accepting the premises of the cultural left, then it all begins to fall apart.

    Whether it was abolitionism and the women’s suffrage movement coexisting during the mid 19th century, second wave feminism following the civil rights/black power movement, or #MeToo and #BLM sharing the same space, the historical record makes it abundantly clear that there is an SJW domino effect.

    I’m not interested in debating the merits of women’s suffrage or contending that slavery was a good thing; but the point I’m trying to make is that once you let SJWs take an inch, they’ll take a mile. It’s not like a nation can be both gender queer friendly and also embrace race realism. With SJWs, you get the whole package.

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    With SJWs, you get the whole package.
     
    Now that 2016 conclusively demolished the MGTOW case against women's suffrage, you're just going to claim that we have to be disenfranchised because an SJW "domino effect."

    Sorry, but we're not doin' that.

    How far back do you want to go? Shall we be imprisoned in our homes like Roman women?
    , @Anonymous
    Where does it end, then? In order to resist cult-marx destruction of our society, do we need to recriminalize homosexuality? Restrict the franchise to large property owning males? Arrest people wearing shorts in public for indecent exposure? Reinstitute slavery?

    If the end result of resisting sharia is just going to be a white sharia, then what is the point?
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  101. @Seamus Padraig
    OT

    Did Thomas Merton really die after being electrocuted by a fan? Or was he actually murdered?

    https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/28/speaking-the-unspeakable-the-assassination-and-martyrdom-of-thomas-merton/

    Re Thomas Merton:

    Haven’t read this new book so I can’t comment on it, but murder instead of accident seems a reasonable speculation to me.

    Merton was famous. Even C. S. Lewis across-the-pond had known who he was and read his books. And Merton published a lot– “the Talkative Trappist. ” Millions of Americans read him, and not only Catholics. Lenny Bruce, for example.

    But he appealed to many of the devout. And now he was starting to be Talkative about Vietnam.

    Shut him up, shut him down. It’s not as if we were going to have one of those fabled National Conversations about…war in Indochina, in this case.

    Rembert Weakland administered the viaticum. The position of Merton’s body was explained: He had soiled himself when he died, and the priests who found him changed him out of care for his dignity.

    I think he was probably murdered, sure.

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  102. @Pat Boyle
    I used to hire (and fire) programmers. I can't remember any women programmers who worked for me and only two blacks - both of whom I fired.

    When I worked in government I once had several hundred women working for me and only three males. The requirements of various real world workplaces don't correspond to the expectations of the social planners.

    I used to hire (and fire) programmers. I can’t remember any women programmers who worked for me and only two blacks – both of whom I fired.

    When I worked in government I once had several hundred women working for me and only three males. The requirements of various real world workplaces don’t correspond to the expectations of the social planners.

    If you had fired those 3 males, then you would of had true diversity! LOL

    But it’s amazing the number of guys that have no idea their head is near the chopping block. Morons still think womyn are working with them. They aren’t.

    Left coast place I worked at didn’t promote a white womyn to upper management. They eventually paid her and her lawyer $1.5 million to go away. She was sure that was her job, and it was sexism.

    For the next 15 years they were on a crusade to get every femail and minority into management, so they could maybe defend themselves when the inevitable discrimination lawsuit was filed in a left wing court with a left wing jury pool.

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  103. @Rosie

    There may be rare exceptions to this but not many.
     
    Evidence? I rather doubt that women are particularly deficient in management ability. There's a reason they're called "Mom and Pop" stores rather than just "Pop" stores. I don't see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women's competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women's interest in these roles.

    Men are certainly more ambitious and expansive in their outlook, but then that is how we got into this mess, isn't it? The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.

    Evidence? I rather doubt that women are particularly deficient in management ability. There’s a reason they’re called “Mom and Pop” stores rather than just “Pop” stores. I don’t see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women’s competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women’s interest in these roles.

    “Rosie” is Corvinus.

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    “Rosie” is Corvinus.
     
    I like how you put 'it' in quotes. 'It' called someone a 'bloke' earlier. I suspect 'It' is a 'Bruce' posing as a 'Sheila'. Aussie.
    , @Rosie

    “Rosie” is Corvinus.
     
    ROFLMWAO!
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  104. @Jack D
    Too bad it's not just HR. Automation is going to kill more jobs than most people can imagine and not just blue collar jobs - in fact many white collar jobs are easier to automate than blue. Y'all can rant and rave about immigrants taking jobs all you want but what if the "immigrant" is a robot or a computer?

    Guaranteed income is an invitation to sloth but what about letting women stay home again to raise their kids? What about lowering the retirement age so that young people can find jobs? A lot of ideas that may seem radical left/right now may not seem so dumb in the future.

    Guaranteed income is an invitation to sloth but what about letting women stay home again to raise their kids? What about lowering the retirement age so that young people can find jobs? A lot of ideas that may seem radical left/right now may not seem so dumb in the future.

    Jack D, I notice that you didn’t mention immigration restriction. Fewer Hispanic nannies available at low wages, more incentive for wives to stay home.

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  105. @Steve Sailer
    I can remember my first pair of Reeboks around 1986: they were so superior in lightness and comfort to anything I wore before.

    Shoes really are a whole lot better than when I was a kid.

    I can remember my first pair of Reeboks around 1986: they were so superior in lightness and comfort to anything I wore before.

    But how long did they last? I bought some Nike Lava Dome textile hiking boots about the same time.. 2/3 the weight of the Italian leather hiking boots I’d worn the previous 12 years.

    I was not a happy camper when the sole pealed off 7 miles from the car…

    Back to the leather Italian boots….

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  106. @Jack D
    HR has been a sort of female ghetto because (1) women are "good with people" and (2) they can be used to fill hiring quotas without doing damage to the actual business of the company (i.e. making and selling stuff). However, I think they will prove to be a fifth column.

    HR has been a sort of female ghetto because (1) women are “good with people” and (2) they can be used to fill hiring quotas without doing damage to the actual business of the company (i.e. making and selling stuff).

    By hiring the wrong people, they do plenty of damage to the actual business.

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    By hiring the wrong people, they do plenty of damage to the actual business.

    For at least the past ten years, my employer has gone full-on retard to hire military vets (w/ diploma- mill degrees and certificates), much better if the vet is black and/or female. None have worked out.
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  107. @Rosie

    Pretty interesting comment there. Really, feminists should be against globalism,
     
    Organized feminism is bankrolled by international financial interests, i.e. Globalists. "Feminist" leaders are bought and paid for shills. They no more represent White women than the Congresswhores represent the American public at large.

    Remember, in Georgia, working-class (not brainwashed) White women voted 70% for Trump. The longer the MGTOW misogynists (Devlin, Black Pigeon, Heartiste) go without addressing the implications of the 2016 vote, the more I suspect they are not just wrong, but rather liars and subversives.

    since ambitious males just can’t help themselves.
     
    True. They see big $$$ signs and just can't resist that cheap labor.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/01/pro-mass-immigration-billionaire-koch-brothers-commit-to-opposing-trumps-effort-to-end-chain-migration/

    We’ve had make drive and exploration since Henry the Navigator sponsored voyages down Africa in the 1450s and only now are we immivaded? Something tells me millions of problem glasses she women decided to replace us boring beta makes with an extra dose of swagger and child rape.

    Women are the eternal and natural enemy of the White man. They want Game of Thrones, we want Father Knows Best of Leave It to Beaver.

    Trump has been a disaster he got the pussy hat people stirred up without moving power to White men.

    If only White men voted not a single Den would have won going back to Truman.

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    We’ve had make drive and exploration since Henry the Navigator sponsored voyages down Africa in the 1450s and only now are we immivaded?
     
    Yes, well that's what happens when you let hostile aliens take over your media. That is 100% your own stupid fault.

    Women are the eternal and natural enemy of the White man.
     
    When are you going to explain why White women in Georgia voted 70% for Trump if we are your "natural and eternal enemy"?

    If only White men voted not a single Den would have won going back to Truman.
     
    True, perhaps, but totally irrelevant. The massive electoral swing among White women without a college degree in favor of Trump proves conclusively that White will vote for White ethnic interests if given the opportunity to do so. Only White women with college degrees (heavily indoctrinated) ran from Trumpian populism. Indeed, they put college White men to shame.

    It's time to give it up Whiskey. You've got no case.
    , @Rosie

    Trump has been a disaster he got the pussy hat people stirred up without moving power to White men.
     
    It was all a big conspiracy between Trump and White women against beta males.
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  108. @Intelligent Dasein

    The longer the MGTOW misogynists (Devlin, Black Pigeon, Heartiste) go without addressing the implications of the 2016 vote, the more I suspect they are not just wrong, but rather liars and subversives.
     
    Of course they're liars and subversives. They are among the very worst of the hissing serpents poisoning our society. Even their own words convict them if you're willing to apply a little logic. Out of one side of their mouths they loudly proclaim that "female choice destroys civilizations," while out of the other side they'll tell you to game like a PUA dickhead because "that's what woman want."

    So if we grant for argument's sake that both these statements are in fact true, then why on earth would anyone want to give women what they want, since that would only lead to destruction? The entire point of being a man is to defend, protect, purify, deepen, and advance the essence one carries, which as a practical matter usually means creating and preserving civilization not destroying it. Supposing that female choice can only destroy civilization, then catering to the selfish demands of women is contrary to the essence of masculinity and incompatible with real virtue, real genius, and real creativity.

    Now, I do not accept that these statements are true, and therefore the whole argument falls apart. I only mentioned to show that the mega-toes are incapable of being logical even on their own terms. But the whole attitude is extremely destructive nonetheless. It is in fact a carefully crafted lie designed to exploit the human weaknesses of both sexes.

    The weakness of women consists in the fact that they will accept almost any man if the alternative is being alone. As a man, all you have to do is be there at the right time. Therefore, being a PUA gamer will work, but not for the reasons advanced by the game community. It will work because, if your sole objective is getting laid, all you have to do is keep trying and eventually you'll stumble upon a girl in a receptive mood. No big surprises there.

    Meanwhile, the elaborate rococo nonsense with which the gamers justify themselves---all the evolutionary theory and psychology and whatnot---is designed to trigger the specifically male weakness manifested in the egotism that would fain believe that everything one has or achieves in life is the direct result of one's own power and greatness."If you get the girl," they say, "it is because you are a dominant and superior being."

    Clearly, this is just prying into the gearbox of male insecurity and reprogramming it to beat down the weak defenses of female propriety. There is nothing constructive about any of this. It is a plunge first into barbarism and then into hell. The only manly thing to do is to resist it, no matter what it costs one in popularity. The women who wish to be gamed are not worth winning, and the men who game them are not winners but losers. This is a fundamental truth that has always been known but is currently in eclipse, and the sexual dysfunction of the age is a result of this shadow cast into the hearts of men. To stand fast against the present darkness is always the supreme calling of masculinity. The return of the sun will reveal the brave in their glory and wither the lies of the deceivers.

    PUA dudes get men laid. And you offer incel hell, Supreme Gentlemen Elliot Rodger.

    Guess which way men are voting. Life is simple and brutal. Either you and yours dominate or some other group of men will do so and if you are lucky merely enslave you.

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    It's like this, Whiskey. Normally, intelligent people revise their beliefs based on new information about the world around them.

    I'm beginning to wonder what sort of exculpatory evidence, if any, would shame you into desisting from your lies, hate-mongering, and divide and conquer plays.
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  109. @Anonymous
    I've spent some time reading 19th century American periodicals, including those aimed at women. One thing that I can tell you is that women had skillz in those days! The kind of cooking done was much more sophisticated than today, including chem lab level candy making. Sewing was not just using patterns, but doing the size grading yourself and truing all the pattern pieces to work with the new size. And most women could play the piano at a really high level before recorded music. Josef Hoffman, student of Anton Rubinstein, and quite a famous pianist and composer at the time, had a piano Q and A column in the Ladies Home Journal that dealt with astoundingly advanced piano repertory and topics, based on readers' questions.

    And most women could play the piano at a really high level before recorded music

    If by “most women” , you mean one tenth of 1 per cent.

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  110. @David Davenport
    Evidence? I rather doubt that women are particularly deficient in management ability. There’s a reason they’re called “Mom and Pop” stores rather than just “Pop” stores. I don’t see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women’s competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women’s interest in these roles.

    "Rosie" is Corvinus.

    “Rosie” is Corvinus.

    I like how you put ‘it’ in quotes. ‘It’ called someone a ‘bloke’ earlier. I suspect ‘It’ is a ‘Bruce’ posing as a ‘Sheila’. Aussie.

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    I like how you put ‘it’ in quotes. ‘It’ called someone a ‘bloke’ earlier. I suspect ‘It’ is a ‘Bruce’ posing as a ‘Sheila’. Aussie.
     
    Did I get my Aussie slang wrong? Oh dear. My apologies to Aussie men, blokes or Bruces.
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  111. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    I've spent some time reading 19th century American periodicals, including those aimed at women. One thing that I can tell you is that women had skillz in those days! The kind of cooking done was much more sophisticated than today, including chem lab level candy making. Sewing was not just using patterns, but doing the size grading yourself and truing all the pattern pieces to work with the new size. And most women could play the piano at a really high level before recorded music. Josef Hoffman, student of Anton Rubinstein, and quite a famous pianist and composer at the time, had a piano Q and A column in the Ladies Home Journal that dealt with astoundingly advanced piano repertory and topics, based on readers' questions.

    Most “ladies”, that is to say women raised in a middle or upper class home with some pretensions to refinement, could play a musical instrument at some level, but rarely at what we would today call a professional level. Maybe one or two percent could by today’s standards pass an audition for admittance at a conservatory if that. But they could play the popular hymns and sing along tunes of the day.

    Piano was popular but so was guitar: before Saint Segovia made it a concert instrument, they had Tarrega and Sor, and the guitar was played either by upscale females as a parlor instrument or in bars by drunks and gypsies. (Alas, the guitar wielding singing cowboy was mostly the stuff of Hollywood: ‘oaters’ or ‘horse operas’ could be shot 90 minutes from LA even on the roads of the day, so a lot were made.) Bowed strings and concertina or accordion were also somewhat popular , as were banjos, mandolins, and in the last days of the phenomenon, electric steel guitar.

    Organs, reed organs pumped manually and later occasionally electrified with a Hoover motor, were also a parlor standby and that led to the home organ craze of the 50s and 60s. Now, the last holdout of that is the Lowrey company, which trains its dealers to efficiently take advantage of semicoherent very old people.

    What killed all this? Availability of recorded music played by full time professionals. Few amateurs sound very good on any instrument as compared to recordings of top pros. Plus which, people don’t do stuff at home together any more.

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  112. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    I've spent some time reading 19th century American periodicals, including those aimed at women. One thing that I can tell you is that women had skillz in those days! The kind of cooking done was much more sophisticated than today, including chem lab level candy making. Sewing was not just using patterns, but doing the size grading yourself and truing all the pattern pieces to work with the new size. And most women could play the piano at a really high level before recorded music. Josef Hoffman, student of Anton Rubinstein, and quite a famous pianist and composer at the time, had a piano Q and A column in the Ladies Home Journal that dealt with astoundingly advanced piano repertory and topics, based on readers' questions.

    Most “ladies”, that is to say women raised in a middle or upper class home with some pretensions to refinement, could play a musical instrument at some level, but rarely at what we would today call a professional level. Maybe one or two percent could by today’s standards pass an audition for admittance at a conservatory if that. But they could play the popular hymns and sing along tunes of the day.

    Piano was popular but so was guitar: before Saint Segovia made it a concert instrument, they had Tarrega and Sor, and the guitar was played either by upscale females as a parlor instrument or in bars by drunks and gypsies. (Alas, the guitar wielding singing cowboy was mostly the stuff of Hollywood: ‘oaters’ or ‘horse operas’ could be shot 90 minutes from LA even on the roads of the day, so a lot were made.) Bowed strings and concertina or accordion were also somewhat popular , as were banjos, mandolins, and in the last days of the phenomenon, electric steel guitar.

    Organs, reed organs pumped manually and later occasionally electrified with a Hoover motor, were also a parlor standby and that led to the home organ craze of the 50s and 60s. Now, the last holdout of that is the Lowrey company, which trains its dealers to efficiently take advantage of semicoherent very old people.

    What killed all this? Availability of recorded music played by full time professionals. Few amateurs sound very good on any instrument as compared to recordings of top pros. Plus which, people don’t do stuff at home together any more.

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  113. @J.Ross
    OT Nostalgic For A Solar System I've Never Seen
    A while back I mentioned following the irreplaceable Feuilleton, which tracks modern illustration, weird fiction, electronic music and cutting edge art (like Sushi Cats). Its proprietor, the professional artist John Coulthart, is a great illustration of a minor point Steve made a while back that real modern art normally means high-quality magazine illustration, although Coulthart mainly does book covers. Feuilleton is very good about paying attention to the online availability of materials, partly because Coulthart relies heavily on archived copyright-expired lithographs for elaborate digital collages. Twice now the blog has featured a late-seventies science magazine with sci-fi flavoring, which is now available in its entire run free at the Internet Archive. This particular link which I am now pointing up focuses on realistic illustrators of the mid-century magazine cover style who were tapped by NASA and Stanley Kubrick among others to stoke popular excitement for the space program, which I'm guessing a lot of people here would enjoy.
    http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/fl04-mccall.jpg
    http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/2018/04/27/the-artists-of-future-life/

    My favorite sci-fi artist was Kelly Freas

    who was even better doing funny stuff for the early sixties Mad magazine.

    https://i2.wp.com/erichatheway.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Sadder-But-Wiser.jpg?resize=474%2C625

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    Nice, is that a slide rule?
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  114. @eah
    https://twitter.com/DrTeckKhong/status/990114045859639296

    Serious inquiry: if I visit London, will I even see UK ppl period?

    Even if they’re Irish or Scots? Or hell white Europeans period of whatever variety or is it already Karachi?

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    Let me put it this way: 2007 - 2009 I visited London at least half a dozen times -- after that whenever someone asked if I'd ever been to England, my standard joke reply was 'No but I've been to London a few times'.
    , @a reader


    is it already Karachi?
     
    Sadly, yes.
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  115. @Lot
    The map shows several areas of London have lost more than 50% of their white British population between 2001 and 2011.

    I’ve never been to the UK….are the touristy areas even staffed and inhabited by UK ppl or is it all Pakistani and Nigerian now

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  116. @Seamus Padraig
    OT

    Did Thomas Merton really die after being electrocuted by a fan? Or was he actually murdered?

    https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/28/speaking-the-unspeakable-the-assassination-and-martyrdom-of-thomas-merton/

    I was in Thailand shortly after this happened and was nearly electrocuted in a similar way. I find the story of his death believable.

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    IIRC Deb and Chris mention this in their book Making Tracks, nearly getting killed by a zap in Thailand. “The electricity isn’t grounded”, she says. Not sure what she means-maybe it’s supposed to be floating instead of tied to an earth ground at neutral?
    , @Triumph104
    A British tourist was electrocuted in Thailand last year.

    Father-of-six Shaun Walley, 67, a tradesman from Stockport, had been visiting a friend in Thailand when he apparently touched a steel balcony handrail that was live with an electric current due to a faulty light box sign.

    The hotel in Chonburi have reportedly admitted the accident on October 19 was their fault, but have informed Mr Walley's family they can't afford to help.

    Now his step-daughter Ramona Brooks, 36, who is five months pregnant, is trying to raise £10,000 to cover the costs of bringing his body home so they can bury him.
     
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5057623/Grandfather-electrocuted-hotel-s-live-handrail.html#ixzz5EHhiDgos
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  117. @lavoisier
    How does sexual egalitarianism, right or wrong, mean the end of civilization? Please elaborate.

    Let me try. An attempt to make true that which is false (sexes are equal; races are equal) leads to further efforts to deny reality, which, over time, will undermine qualities such as honesty that are essential to an advanced civilization.

    An advanced civilization requires a modicum of honesty to be created and to function.

    Nothing good comes from lies.

    over time, will undermine qualities such as honesty that are essential to an advanced civilization.

    A rather attenuated causal relationship, I’d say. The truth is sex denialism is not nearly as counterintuitive as race denialism. The IQ gap between races dwarfs the sex gap. Moreover, it’s most visible at the tail ends, which is quite different from the milieu in which most people live put their lives.

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    But men and women do not function identically-- smart women do not generally do the same sort of jobs as smart men. Not to mention that the idea that men and women are always interchangeable in any situation was the justification for the absurd gay marriage decision.
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  118. @Hosswire
    Generally, a man has to choose between speaking the truth to women OR being “gallant”.

    Generally, a man has to choose between speaking the truth to women OR being “gallant”.

    Then why is the comment section on this website so rife with outright lies about women? You tell me.

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  119. @Bay Area Guy
    I actually don't blame feminism for low birth rates, since countries like Japan and South Korea - not exactly SJW cesspools - are also plagued by low birth rates. It seems that low fertility is a common affliction for wealthy nations.

    (that doesn't explain why poorer Eastern European countries also have relatively low fertility rates, but that's another topic)

    Sex denialism by itself may not destroy nations. However, as Keith Alexander of The Political Cesspool has pointed out on many occasions, you can't let the camel's nose in the tent. In other words, once you begin accepting the premises of the cultural left, then it all begins to fall apart.

    Whether it was abolitionism and the women's suffrage movement coexisting during the mid 19th century, second wave feminism following the civil rights/black power movement, or #MeToo and #BLM sharing the same space, the historical record makes it abundantly clear that there is an SJW domino effect.

    I'm not interested in debating the merits of women's suffrage or contending that slavery was a good thing; but the point I'm trying to make is that once you let SJWs take an inch, they'll take a mile. It's not like a nation can be both gender queer friendly and also embrace race realism. With SJWs, you get the whole package.

    With SJWs, you get the whole package.

    Now that 2016 conclusively demolished the MGTOW case against women’s suffrage, you’re just going to claim that we have to be disenfranchised because an SJW “domino effect.”

    Sorry, but we’re not doin’ that.

    How far back do you want to go? Shall we be imprisoned in our homes like Roman women?

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  120. @David Davenport
    Evidence? I rather doubt that women are particularly deficient in management ability. There’s a reason they’re called “Mom and Pop” stores rather than just “Pop” stores. I don’t see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women’s competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women’s interest in these roles.

    "Rosie" is Corvinus.

    “Rosie” is Corvinus.

    ROFLMWAO!

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  121. @gunner29

    I rather doubt that women are particularly deficient in management ability. There’s a reason they’re called “Mom and Pop” stores rather than just “Pop” stores. I don’t see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women’s competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women’s interest in these roles.
     
    Scale makes a huge difference. Mom and Pop is the bottom of the ladder when it comes to management.

    You have to know when to get there, unlock the door without tripping the alarm, and get behind the counter. Inventory is walking down the aisle to see what's sold out, payroll is the two of you, maybe a part timer or two. Most people can do this level of management.

    As the company gets bigger, now you have specialized staff for bookeeping, personel, inventory, marketing, the list goes on. Real early in that expansion, lots of men, and womyn reach their level of competency, they can maybe handle a couple of locations with 100 employees, but the ability to take it to a higher level, national, that's really rare in one person.

    Guys like our host, Steve, could give you lots of sources with how difficult high level managment truly is, and why so few womyn are there.

    Another thought; 10 years ago or more, there was another womyn with a mindset like yours. She had seen all these womyn with advanced degrees from the most elite schools and there had been hardly any change in the percentage of womyn CEO's in the previous 20 years.

    So she decided to contact some of these womyn. Her method was the NYT's wedding announcement pages. Went back into the archives 10 years and noted the womyn with the best pedigree's and used public records to track them down. The wedding announcement always mentioned the wife's educational attainments. She wanted the prime beef.

    Interesting what she found. Most of the womyn had married really well, since their male classmates had the best pedigree's as well. The reason the vast majority gave as to why they weren't on the corporate ladder was their husband could and did provide a very comfortable living. They saw no reason to bust their ass like their husbands did every day.

    One womyn said her husband was the CEO of the family; he earned the money. She was the CFO, she spent it. LOL

    Womyn have options in life; to work or not. At least a lot of them. Men's options are to work, or live on the streets. No womyn will want to support a guy, at least among womyn that are lower middle class and above. The underclass, the guys can find womyn that will sometimes do that. Mainly NAMs tho...


    The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.
     
    No, that's behind the global population boom. Globalism is the quest to acquire more money so you can attract a better class/looking womyn you can penetrate.

    Aristotle Onasis is on record saying the only reason for making a lot of money are womyn....male sex drive is everything.

    No, that’s behind the global population boom. Globalism is the quest to acquire more money so you can attract a better class/looking womyn you can penetrate.

    No. London is now majority non-White, at least partially as a result of foreign adventuring by White men. It’s male… What’s that phrase MGTOW like to use?

    Oh yeah, reproductive strategy.

    Male reproductive strategy: expand and penetrate.

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  122. @Whiskey
    We've had make drive and exploration since Henry the Navigator sponsored voyages down Africa in the 1450s and only now are we immivaded? Something tells me millions of problem glasses she women decided to replace us boring beta makes with an extra dose of swagger and child rape.

    Women are the eternal and natural enemy of the White man. They want Game of Thrones, we want Father Knows Best of Leave It to Beaver.

    Trump has been a disaster he got the pussy hat people stirred up without moving power to White men.

    If only White men voted not a single Den would have won going back to Truman.

    We’ve had make drive and exploration since Henry the Navigator sponsored voyages down Africa in the 1450s and only now are we immivaded?

    Yes, well that’s what happens when you let hostile aliens take over your media. That is 100% your own stupid fault.

    Women are the eternal and natural enemy of the White man.

    When are you going to explain why White women in Georgia voted 70% for Trump if we are your “natural and eternal enemy”?

    If only White men voted not a single Den would have won going back to Truman.

    True, perhaps, but totally irrelevant. The massive electoral swing among White women without a college degree in favor of Trump proves conclusively that White will vote for White ethnic interests if given the opportunity to do so. Only White women with college degrees (heavily indoctrinated) ran from Trumpian populism. Indeed, they put college White men to shame.

    It’s time to give it up Whiskey. You’ve got no case.

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  123. @Jack D
    Too bad it's not just HR. Automation is going to kill more jobs than most people can imagine and not just blue collar jobs - in fact many white collar jobs are easier to automate than blue. Y'all can rant and rave about immigrants taking jobs all you want but what if the "immigrant" is a robot or a computer?

    Guaranteed income is an invitation to sloth but what about letting women stay home again to raise their kids? What about lowering the retirement age so that young people can find jobs? A lot of ideas that may seem radical left/right now may not seem so dumb in the future.

    Y’all can rant and rave about immigrants taking jobs all you want…

    “Employment” is a dynamic around which we organize society to a large degree; not that most jobs are actually important or vital. Giving jobs to foreigners just gives them a toehold in our society; we’re better off raising up our own for those jobs, or not filling them.

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  124. @Whiskey
    PUA dudes get men laid. And you offer incel hell, Supreme Gentlemen Elliot Rodger.

    Guess which way men are voting. Life is simple and brutal. Either you and yours dominate or some other group of men will do so and if you are lucky merely enslave you.

    It’s like this, Whiskey. Normally, intelligent people revise their beliefs based on new information about the world around them.

    I’m beginning to wonder what sort of exculpatory evidence, if any, would shame you into desisting from your lies, hate-mongering, and divide and conquer plays.

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  125. @gunner29

    “Rosie” is Corvinus.
     
    I like how you put 'it' in quotes. 'It' called someone a 'bloke' earlier. I suspect 'It' is a 'Bruce' posing as a 'Sheila'. Aussie.

    I like how you put ‘it’ in quotes. ‘It’ called someone a ‘bloke’ earlier. I suspect ‘It’ is a ‘Bruce’ posing as a ‘Sheila’. Aussie.

    Did I get my Aussie slang wrong? Oh dear. My apologies to Aussie men, blokes or Bruces.

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  126. @Steve Sailer
    I can remember my first pair of Reeboks around 1986: they were so superior in lightness and comfort to anything I wore before.

    Shoes really are a whole lot better than when I was a kid.

    I’m younger than Steve and I wore wooden clogs for a few years when I was a kid. Not kidding.

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  127. @gunner29

    I rather doubt that women are particularly deficient in management ability. There’s a reason they’re called “Mom and Pop” stores rather than just “Pop” stores. I don’t see any reason why scale would make any difference in terms of women’s competence, though certainly it makes a huge difference in women’s interest in these roles.
     
    Scale makes a huge difference. Mom and Pop is the bottom of the ladder when it comes to management.

    You have to know when to get there, unlock the door without tripping the alarm, and get behind the counter. Inventory is walking down the aisle to see what's sold out, payroll is the two of you, maybe a part timer or two. Most people can do this level of management.

    As the company gets bigger, now you have specialized staff for bookeeping, personel, inventory, marketing, the list goes on. Real early in that expansion, lots of men, and womyn reach their level of competency, they can maybe handle a couple of locations with 100 employees, but the ability to take it to a higher level, national, that's really rare in one person.

    Guys like our host, Steve, could give you lots of sources with how difficult high level managment truly is, and why so few womyn are there.

    Another thought; 10 years ago or more, there was another womyn with a mindset like yours. She had seen all these womyn with advanced degrees from the most elite schools and there had been hardly any change in the percentage of womyn CEO's in the previous 20 years.

    So she decided to contact some of these womyn. Her method was the NYT's wedding announcement pages. Went back into the archives 10 years and noted the womyn with the best pedigree's and used public records to track them down. The wedding announcement always mentioned the wife's educational attainments. She wanted the prime beef.

    Interesting what she found. Most of the womyn had married really well, since their male classmates had the best pedigree's as well. The reason the vast majority gave as to why they weren't on the corporate ladder was their husband could and did provide a very comfortable living. They saw no reason to bust their ass like their husbands did every day.

    One womyn said her husband was the CEO of the family; he earned the money. She was the CFO, she spent it. LOL

    Womyn have options in life; to work or not. At least a lot of them. Men's options are to work, or live on the streets. No womyn will want to support a guy, at least among womyn that are lower middle class and above. The underclass, the guys can find womyn that will sometimes do that. Mainly NAMs tho...


    The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.
     
    No, that's behind the global population boom. Globalism is the quest to acquire more money so you can attract a better class/looking womyn you can penetrate.

    Aristotle Onasis is on record saying the only reason for making a lot of money are womyn....male sex drive is everything.

    Guys like our host, Steve, could give you lots of sources with how difficult high level managment truly is, and why so few womyn are there.

    I would very much like to see this evidence. Hopefully, our gracious host will oblige.

    The reason the vast majority gave as to why they weren’t on the corporate ladder was their husband could and did provide a very comfortable living. They saw no reason to bust their ass like their husbands did every day.

    How does that support your assertion that women lack managerial ability. I would think it rather suppottay contention that women just aren’t interested.

    Womyn have options in life; to work or not.

    No, only a few of us have those options. Thanks to greedy male CEOs undercutting working class wages, most of us have to work to make ends meet. Fortunately, I am in the lucky minority. How convenient for them that you blame your problems on women rather than the corporate plutocracy.

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  128. @27 year old
    Rosie,

    This isn't a good look.

    Do yourself a favor and cut your internet arguing time in half, spend that time on things that will please your husband

    How about this, 27? Is this a “good look”?

    Women are the eternal and natural enemy of the White man.

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  129. @Whiskey
    We've had make drive and exploration since Henry the Navigator sponsored voyages down Africa in the 1450s and only now are we immivaded? Something tells me millions of problem glasses she women decided to replace us boring beta makes with an extra dose of swagger and child rape.

    Women are the eternal and natural enemy of the White man. They want Game of Thrones, we want Father Knows Best of Leave It to Beaver.

    Trump has been a disaster he got the pussy hat people stirred up without moving power to White men.

    If only White men voted not a single Den would have won going back to Truman.

    Trump has been a disaster he got the pussy hat people stirred up without moving power to White men.

    It was all a big conspiracy between Trump and White women against beta males.

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  130. Anonymous[612] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bay Area Guy
    I actually don't blame feminism for low birth rates, since countries like Japan and South Korea - not exactly SJW cesspools - are also plagued by low birth rates. It seems that low fertility is a common affliction for wealthy nations.

    (that doesn't explain why poorer Eastern European countries also have relatively low fertility rates, but that's another topic)

    Sex denialism by itself may not destroy nations. However, as Keith Alexander of The Political Cesspool has pointed out on many occasions, you can't let the camel's nose in the tent. In other words, once you begin accepting the premises of the cultural left, then it all begins to fall apart.

    Whether it was abolitionism and the women's suffrage movement coexisting during the mid 19th century, second wave feminism following the civil rights/black power movement, or #MeToo and #BLM sharing the same space, the historical record makes it abundantly clear that there is an SJW domino effect.

    I'm not interested in debating the merits of women's suffrage or contending that slavery was a good thing; but the point I'm trying to make is that once you let SJWs take an inch, they'll take a mile. It's not like a nation can be both gender queer friendly and also embrace race realism. With SJWs, you get the whole package.

    Where does it end, then? In order to resist cult-marx destruction of our society, do we need to recriminalize homosexuality? Restrict the franchise to large property owning males? Arrest people wearing shorts in public for indecent exposure? Reinstitute slavery?

    If the end result of resisting sharia is just going to be a white sharia, then what is the point?

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    Restoring the original understanding of the Constitution means reversing a forgettable episode of un-Constitutional laws and institutions, not painting our faces green and speaking Esperanto.
    >recriminalize homosexuality?
    Oh there you go relying on the big state. We do need to restore shame for degeneracy and hedonism, to include heterosexual degeneracy. Criminalization, as no liberal can understand, means enforcement.
    >Restrict the franchise to large property owning males?
    We do need to restore the old way of electing Senators, as it is they're just a redundant assembly.
    We do need to withdraw the franchise from welfare recipients. Are you okay with Chinese bureaucrats stealing tax money, coming here, and then holding forth on how, as an American, they feel that the First and Second Amendments are outdated? Is there a good result of women's suffrage that you can name?
    >Arrest people wearing shorts in public for indecent exposure?
    Is that worse than destroying the careers of people who blurt the wrong opinions?
    What is the good thing that is going to result from a pinkhair's seventh piercing? Degenerate personal expression is a kind of defilement ritual solidifying commitment to self-destruction. Your personal life should be something private, not a hair shirt displayed to all. People should dress something like they're headed for a job interview, except for one weekend a month nearest the New Moon, when we will preclude children and relax certain rules in a sort of Mardi Gras, but with the practice of preferring clever costumes over mere nudity.
    >Reinstitute slavery?
    Slavery is the defining characteristic of globalists. It is instituted in too many restaurants and farms. We are the only side with an end to slavery and opposing us means embracing slavery.
    The Constitution is not an arbitrary Christmas list of things that sounded good at the time, it's a system. It doesn't function if you remove pieces from the crysralline central structure. And if it doesn't system then the laws are not laws.
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  131. @Pat Boyle
    I used to hire (and fire) programmers. I can't remember any women programmers who worked for me and only two blacks - both of whom I fired.

    When I worked in government I once had several hundred women working for me and only three males. The requirements of various real world workplaces don't correspond to the expectations of the social planners.

    Sounds about right.

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  132. @Anon
    Here's an ex-Googler woman-of-color feminist programmer who was involved in hiring and diversity at Google. The problem? The female coder applicant pool is tiny, especially for advanced or esoteric skills and experience.

    https://medium.com/the-mission/im-an-ex-google-woman-tech-leader-and-i-m-sick-of-our-approach-to-diversity-17008c5fe999


    It’s not like I wasn’t trying to hire women. But I was working with a candidate pool composed of 90% men. Try software engineers with experience in sensors, wireless and hardware stacks before angrily correcting my stats there. There was no way I was going to come out of that with a larger percentage of women hires than I did.
     
    She quit and started her own company.

    I left Google to build UrbanAMA. As a woman entrepreneur, I wanted to build a company that had a diverse team. I’m ashamed to admit that I’ve failed miserably so far.

    We try hard, but again find ourselves with a 98% male candidate pool. You should know that we are an early stage startup that cannot afford market salaries. Despite that, we paid premium salaries to bring a few women who did well in our interviews. But, they lacked the energy to put us into overdrive. Worse, they were starting to drain the energy from the rest of the team. Eventually, we had to do the right thing for the company and let them go. I’m now back to being the only woman on the (tech) team.
     

    By the way, there's a really great woman coder at Microsoft, Dona Sarkar. How do I know? I heard her presentation about how great it is to code. In fact, that seems to be her job now, going around telling girls how great a coding job is. Too bad she doesn't seem to have so much time to actually code herself anymore.

    She talks about how she realized how much she loved coding when her boss sent her to Europe to help troubleshoot a software application problem. She met with customers, watched them use the software, figured out the problem, and communicated with the coders back home how to fix it. She went on to do more of this, which she loved, which unfortunately took her away from actual coding. By the way, she has a fashion line on the side. I'm wondering whether male coders are allowed to operate a business on the side while working at Microsoft. Grrrrlz who Code!

    Note I didn’t write that there were no women who can code – only that in many years of hiring, and supervising coders I never could remember in having had one. I was quite sure that if anyone replied to my comment there would be someone who would point out some great female coder they once knew. This what they call the exception that proves the rule.

    The pattern that I observed at several private industry companies was that the technical people were all white men or Chinese. White men here includes Indians (meaning from India).

    In my areas in private industry there plenty of women in marketing but the engineers, coders and data base analysts were almost exclusively male. When I checked this with Google (the information resource not the company) that seems to be the general pattern too.

    Government was different. There you would find mostly women in the kinds of semi-technical kind of paper pushing jobs I once supervised. I did finance and budgeting in those days. All the lower level accounting jobs were almost exclusively female as well as the welfare workers. Women dominated the eligibility worker and account clerk positions of which there were a great many. So in the published summary statistics there is an impression that females are often employed in math related areas. But that impression obscure the reality that women are usually employed in ‘low’ math not ‘high’ math. There are many exceptions but please don’t bother to tell me of a brilliant women you once knew who was an exception. I was speaking to a predominant pattern that SJWs wish to obscure with anecdotes.

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    In 40+ years of programming, I have met a few women coders, but none that were excellent or who loved it like many of the guys did. IMSHO, it's not that they can't do it, but rather that the job is not social enough for most women.
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  133. @Neoconned
    Serious inquiry: if I visit London, will I even see UK ppl period?

    Even if they're Irish or Scots? Or hell white Europeans period of whatever variety or is it already Karachi?

    Let me put it this way: 2007 – 2009 I visited London at least half a dozen times — after that whenever someone asked if I’d ever been to England, my standard joke reply was ‘No but I’ve been to London a few times’.

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    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcBxh2CUQAArbe2.jpg
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  134. @eah
    Let me put it this way: 2007 - 2009 I visited London at least half a dozen times -- after that whenever someone asked if I'd ever been to England, my standard joke reply was 'No but I've been to London a few times'.

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  135. @Neoconned
    Serious inquiry: if I visit London, will I even see UK ppl period?

    Even if they're Irish or Scots? Or hell white Europeans period of whatever variety or is it already Karachi?

    is it already Karachi?

    Sadly, yes.

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  136. @JohnnyWalker123
    So you're saying that these Nike female employees were sexually harassed in Beaverton?

    The joke writes itself.

    Every New England town takes pride in their former “Indian” name. My hometown was known by the local Wampanoag tribe as Manamooskeagin, Land of Many Beavers!

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  137. @Rosie

    Women do very little work that really needs to be done.
     
    What laughable (and outrageous) nonsense! Women have been teachers, nurses, and social workers since forever. Career girls used to dress like this.

    http://nebula.wsimg.com/b803edaf2a117a8dd5165eb3204175ec?AccessKeyId=FD4BF10CF46A75C440C2&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

    Understand that quite a few of women comprising one group you mention, nurses, would consign one of the others, social workers, to the deepest pits of Hell.

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  138. @Almost Missouri
    OT:

    China shows how it will win the future by recognizing differences between men and women.

    But don't worry, SJWs are on the case to shame Chinese into believing men and women are the same.

    Will the Chinese swallow the cuck hook and bring thousands of years of civilization to an end, or will the Middle Kingdom shrug off the heavy hand of Western Imperialist hegemony?

    To find out, tune in to next week's episode of The Fate of Humanity!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/business/china-women-technology.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/23/opinion/chinese-tech-sexism.html?action=click&contentCollection=Business%20Day&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

    Probably the SJW menace will be resisted for awhile yet. Distinct language and culture helps with that, but most importantly, the method of government means that it is more difficult for the usual actors to get a significant toehold. Even in Japan, for example, which is nominally a democracy, can avoid subversion by having significant amounts of power secluded in veiled male-controlled clubs and organizations.

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    I would agree, but ... they seemed to have no trouble setting aside thousands of years of tradition to adopt insane Marxism imported from the West's mental underside, even to the cost of millions of lives. So a little SJW-ism doesn't seem like too much of a stretch.
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  139. @the one they call Desanex
    My favorite sci-fi artist was Kelly Freas
    https://i.pinimg.com/564x/7a/27/85/7a278551149fbd27a84644729e8851d2.jpg
    who was even better doing funny stuff for the early sixties Mad magazine.
    https://i2.wp.com/erichatheway.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Sadder-But-Wiser.jpg?resize=474%2C625

    Nice, is that a slide rule?

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  140. @Anonymous
    Where does it end, then? In order to resist cult-marx destruction of our society, do we need to recriminalize homosexuality? Restrict the franchise to large property owning males? Arrest people wearing shorts in public for indecent exposure? Reinstitute slavery?

    If the end result of resisting sharia is just going to be a white sharia, then what is the point?

    Restoring the original understanding of the Constitution means reversing a forgettable episode of un-Constitutional laws and institutions, not painting our faces green and speaking Esperanto.
    >recriminalize homosexuality?
    Oh there you go relying on the big state. We do need to restore shame for degeneracy and hedonism, to include heterosexual degeneracy. Criminalization, as no liberal can understand, means enforcement.
    >Restrict the franchise to large property owning males?
    We do need to restore the old way of electing Senators, as it is they’re just a redundant assembly.
    We do need to withdraw the franchise from welfare recipients. Are you okay with Chinese bureaucrats stealing tax money, coming here, and then holding forth on how, as an American, they feel that the First and Second Amendments are outdated? Is there a good result of women’s suffrage that you can name?
    >Arrest people wearing shorts in public for indecent exposure?
    Is that worse than destroying the careers of people who blurt the wrong opinions?
    What is the good thing that is going to result from a pinkhair’s seventh piercing? Degenerate personal expression is a kind of defilement ritual solidifying commitment to self-destruction. Your personal life should be something private, not a hair shirt displayed to all. People should dress something like they’re headed for a job interview, except for one weekend a month nearest the New Moon, when we will preclude children and relax certain rules in a sort of Mardi Gras, but with the practice of preferring clever costumes over mere nudity.
    >Reinstitute slavery?
    Slavery is the defining characteristic of globalists. It is instituted in too many restaurants and farms. We are the only side with an end to slavery and opposing us means embracing slavery.
    The Constitution is not an arbitrary Christmas list of things that sounded good at the time, it’s a system. It doesn’t function if you remove pieces from the crysralline central structure. And if it doesn’t system then the laws are not laws.

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    Is there a good result of women’s suffrage that you can name?
     
    So anti-reactionaries bear the burden of proof that women's suffrage has been affirmatively beneficial, rather than merely not harmful?

    I don't think so. The alt-Right doesn't need to pick fights with White women and White men who don't blame us every time they get a hangnail.
    , @Twinkie

    We do need to restore shame for degeneracy and hedonism, to include heterosexual degeneracy.
     
    Hear, hear!

    We do need to withdraw the franchise from welfare recipients.
     
    I think it makes sense to restrict franchise to property owners, no matter how small. When you own a business or a house, even a small condo, things like property value and taxes start to enter the brains of even leftists.

    Degenerate personal expression is a kind of defilement ritual solidifying commitment to self-destruction. Your personal life should be something private, not a hair shirt displayed to all.
     
    Were this a public establishment, my good Sir, I would buy you a drink!

    Slavery is the defining characteristic of globalists. It is instituted in too many restaurants and farms. We are the only side with an end to slavery and opposing us means embracing slavery.
     
    Opposing modern-day slavery is not only moral, but practical. Let us not keep helots, for one day they may overthrow us and enslave our children.
    , @Anon
    Don’t want to start a fight but read about Marbury vs Madison 1805 and Cooper vs Aaron 1958.

    Don’t bother with the superficial wikepedia.

    Every county in the country has a law library open to the public. Every little branch courthouse in the boon docks has its little law library open to the public And there seems to be a law school every few miles to accommodate the jillion trillion liberal arts grads who don’t want to work at Starbucks for minimum wage.

    Essentially the Supreme Court is the law of the land. Laws can be made and overturned by the vote of one Supreme Court judge.

    These judge made laws can be and are enforced by federal law enforcement and even the army.

    That’s the way it it is and no amount of learned articles in National Review, American conservative or any other conservative publication can change that.
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  141. @Pat Boyle
    Note I didn't write that there were no women who can code - only that in many years of hiring, and supervising coders I never could remember in having had one. I was quite sure that if anyone replied to my comment there would be someone who would point out some great female coder they once knew. This what they call the exception that proves the rule.

    The pattern that I observed at several private industry companies was that the technical people were all white men or Chinese. White men here includes Indians (meaning from India).

    In my areas in private industry there plenty of women in marketing but the engineers, coders and data base analysts were almost exclusively male. When I checked this with Google (the information resource not the company) that seems to be the general pattern too.

    Government was different. There you would find mostly women in the kinds of semi-technical kind of paper pushing jobs I once supervised. I did finance and budgeting in those days. All the lower level accounting jobs were almost exclusively female as well as the welfare workers. Women dominated the eligibility worker and account clerk positions of which there were a great many. So in the published summary statistics there is an impression that females are often employed in math related areas. But that impression obscure the reality that women are usually employed in 'low' math not 'high' math. There are many exceptions but please don't bother to tell me of a brilliant women you once knew who was an exception. I was speaking to a predominant pattern that SJWs wish to obscure with anecdotes.

    In 40+ years of programming, I have met a few women coders, but none that were excellent or who loved it like many of the guys did. IMSHO, it’s not that they can’t do it, but rather that the job is not social enough for most women.

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  142. @anonymous

    Their business model seems to be selling brightly colored clown shoes to Black teenagers. And yet they make billions.
     
    Nike sells more than 100 million pairs of shoes each year. Style matters to many people. It’s very hard to find an American who hasn’t worn a pair of Nikes at some point in the last 45 years. I did road work in PF Flyers back in the 60s/70s, it hurt, modern running shoes are a huge improvement.

    I did road work in PF Flyers back in the 60s/70s, it hurt, modern running shoes are a huge improvement.

    I needed a good pair of running shoes for my 1977 high school freshman year cross-country team. I paid $20 for a used pair of Nike that fit from a teammate, and ran them for four years. Today, I spend about $50 for Nike or Fila and get about six months out of them.

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  143. @ben tillman

    HR has been a sort of female ghetto because (1) women are “good with people” and (2) they can be used to fill hiring quotas without doing damage to the actual business of the company (i.e. making and selling stuff).
     
    By hiring the wrong people, they do plenty of damage to the actual business.

    By hiring the wrong people, they do plenty of damage to the actual business.

    For at least the past ten years, my employer has gone full-on retard to hire military vets (w/ diploma- mill degrees and certificates), much better if the vet is black and/or female. None have worked out.

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    ^ Not saying that military vets make poor employees, just that my employer gives too high a plus factor to (weakly-credentialed) vets over (better-credentialed) non-vets.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Never go full retard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=84&v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q
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  144. @E. Rekshun
    By hiring the wrong people, they do plenty of damage to the actual business.

    For at least the past ten years, my employer has gone full-on retard to hire military vets (w/ diploma- mill degrees and certificates), much better if the vet is black and/or female. None have worked out.

    ^ Not saying that military vets make poor employees, just that my employer gives too high a plus factor to (weakly-credentialed) vets over (better-credentialed) non-vets.

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    This is part of the phenomenon generally called the "nineties army" (the idea that our military is a nineteenth century European spa for fixing or accommodating broken people, and not, say, a military). Vets who have it together are getting job offers before they're separated. Vets who need special help are like any other class of potential employees who need special help.
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  145. @Rosie

    Will the Chinese swallow the cuck hook and bring thousands of years of civilization to an end, or will the Middle Kingdom shrug off the heavy hand of Western Imperialist hegemony?
     
    People who believe men and women are the same are wrong, but they are not cucks.

    How does sexual egalitarianism, right or wrong, mean the end of civilization? Please elaborate.

    How does sexual egalitarianism, right or wrong, mean the end of civilization? Please elaborate.

    Indeed, it could mean the end of Jews, which many of our forum-mates here would celebrate.

    Except for those hairy, black-hatted menstruphobe troglodytes, but, like the Amish, they’re only annoying if you live close by.

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  146. @Rosie

    Will the Chinese swallow the cuck hook and bring thousands of years of civilization to an end, or will the Middle Kingdom shrug off the heavy hand of Western Imperialist hegemony?
     
    People who believe men and women are the same are wrong, but they are not cucks.

    How does sexual egalitarianism, right or wrong, mean the end of civilization? Please elaborate.

    Civiliztion is a product of consistent specialization.

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  147. J.Ross says: • Website
    @E. Rekshun
    ^ Not saying that military vets make poor employees, just that my employer gives too high a plus factor to (weakly-credentialed) vets over (better-credentialed) non-vets.

    This is part of the phenomenon generally called the “nineties army” (the idea that our military is a nineteenth century European spa for fixing or accommodating broken people, and not, say, a military). Vets who have it together are getting job offers before they’re separated. Vets who need special help are like any other class of potential employees who need special help.

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  148. @E. Rekshun
    By hiring the wrong people, they do plenty of damage to the actual business.

    For at least the past ten years, my employer has gone full-on retard to hire military vets (w/ diploma- mill degrees and certificates), much better if the vet is black and/or female. None have worked out.
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  149. @J.Ross
    Restoring the original understanding of the Constitution means reversing a forgettable episode of un-Constitutional laws and institutions, not painting our faces green and speaking Esperanto.
    >recriminalize homosexuality?
    Oh there you go relying on the big state. We do need to restore shame for degeneracy and hedonism, to include heterosexual degeneracy. Criminalization, as no liberal can understand, means enforcement.
    >Restrict the franchise to large property owning males?
    We do need to restore the old way of electing Senators, as it is they're just a redundant assembly.
    We do need to withdraw the franchise from welfare recipients. Are you okay with Chinese bureaucrats stealing tax money, coming here, and then holding forth on how, as an American, they feel that the First and Second Amendments are outdated? Is there a good result of women's suffrage that you can name?
    >Arrest people wearing shorts in public for indecent exposure?
    Is that worse than destroying the careers of people who blurt the wrong opinions?
    What is the good thing that is going to result from a pinkhair's seventh piercing? Degenerate personal expression is a kind of defilement ritual solidifying commitment to self-destruction. Your personal life should be something private, not a hair shirt displayed to all. People should dress something like they're headed for a job interview, except for one weekend a month nearest the New Moon, when we will preclude children and relax certain rules in a sort of Mardi Gras, but with the practice of preferring clever costumes over mere nudity.
    >Reinstitute slavery?
    Slavery is the defining characteristic of globalists. It is instituted in too many restaurants and farms. We are the only side with an end to slavery and opposing us means embracing slavery.
    The Constitution is not an arbitrary Christmas list of things that sounded good at the time, it's a system. It doesn't function if you remove pieces from the crysralline central structure. And if it doesn't system then the laws are not laws.

    Is there a good result of women’s suffrage that you can name?

    So anti-reactionaries bear the burden of proof that women’s suffrage has been affirmatively beneficial, rather than merely not harmful?

    I don’t think so. The alt-Right doesn’t need to pick fights with White women and White men who don’t blame us every time they get a hangnail.

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  150. anonymous[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seamus Padraig
    OT

    Did Thomas Merton really die after being electrocuted by a fan? Or was he actually murdered?

    https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/28/speaking-the-unspeakable-the-assassination-and-martyrdom-of-thomas-merton/

    Never did buy story that he electrocuted himself. The notion that Merton knew (and said) “too much” has some validity I believe. And on that note, given Brennan’s recent comments, Trump had better double his guard.

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  151. @Twinkie

    shock absorbing souls
     
    Too. Funny.

    Yeah.

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  152. @Rosie

    Is there a good result of women’s suffrage that you can name?
     
    So anti-reactionaries bear the burden of proof that women's suffrage has been affirmatively beneficial, rather than merely not harmful?

    I don't think so. The alt-Right doesn't need to pick fights with White women and White men who don't blame us every time they get a hangnail.

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  153. I worked at a huge Fortune 50 for over 20 years and witnessed many successive waves of efforts to increase our Most Precious Value, Diversity (although it wasn’t always called this).

    Mostly, this focused on blacks, but it seemed the company learned from this after a few purges of pre Me-Too run of the mill sexual harassment/inappropriate shenanigans got rid of rapidly and over-promoted black males who liked the white women a bit too enthusiastically.

    So, what they did, is encourage leaders to self-identify as ‘Diverse’. This led to some hilarious flight from white scenarios, where lots of whites magically discovered hidden depths of non-stale-pale-maleness.

    Blue eyed people with German surnames claimed to be Latino. White Lebanese Christians claimed to be anointed with the holy order of being Diverse. Blue eyes palefaces claimed to be Cherokee (why always this tribe?). An Italian guy claimed to be Puerto Rican. A Greek claimed the Precious as well.

    Beyond reducing the unfortunate tendencies of blacks with power to be overly grabby of the white ladies, what this did is position these corporate transracialists to benefit personally with the benefits of this anointed status, and to position the company externally as having higher numbers of non-whites, which of course means, less evil.

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    Or how a White with a C average and less than average SAT scores can get into the top 10 colleges.
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  154. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Rosie

    Will the Chinese swallow the cuck hook and bring thousands of years of civilization to an end, or will the Middle Kingdom shrug off the heavy hand of Western Imperialist hegemony?
     
    People who believe men and women are the same are wrong, but they are not cucks.

    How does sexual egalitarianism, right or wrong, mean the end of civilization? Please elaborate.

    People who believe men and women are the same are wrong, but they are not cucks.
    A cuck is a cuckold, one of Shakespeare’s favorite insults: a man who has abdicated his masculine prerogatives, especially regarding his woman. The main presupposition in tolerating promiscuity, open relationships, and cucking is that female sexuality works just like male sexuality. So, yeah, people who believe that men and women are the same are cucks.

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    So, yeah, people who believe that men and women are the same are cucks.
     
    This intellectually dishonest tendency to distort and redefine terms for use as weapons grows ever more tiresome.
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  155. @Daniel Chieh
    Probably the SJW menace will be resisted for awhile yet. Distinct language and culture helps with that, but most importantly, the method of government means that it is more difficult for the usual actors to get a significant toehold. Even in Japan, for example, which is nominally a democracy, can avoid subversion by having significant amounts of power secluded in veiled male-controlled clubs and organizations.

    I would agree, but … they seemed to have no trouble setting aside thousands of years of tradition to adopt insane Marxism imported from the West’s mental underside, even to the cost of millions of lives. So a little SJW-ism doesn’t seem like too much of a stretch.

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  156. Why do so many commenters here feel the need to feed the troll? The only way to make it go away is to deny it the attention and validation it craves.

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  157. @Hosswire
    Generally, a man has to choose between speaking the truth to women OR being “gallant”.

    Generally, a man has to choose between speaking the truth to women OR being “gallant”.

    I am generally chivalrous toward women and I tend to be pretty blunt. But I am usually gentlemanly about the way I am blunt. Indeed, there is being blunt, and there is being crude. Women of good sense and breeding (there are still some left) don’t mind bluntness, but they certainly don’t look kindly upon men who are crude.

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    Don't forget mean. I think a lot of confusion comes from bluntness being confused with meanness. My sense is women really don't like it when men make them feel bad. You seem gracious enough that you probably run into this less often.

    Rule of thumb for myself: probably best not to be "blunt" when I am angry.
    , @Anon
    Huh??

    Depends on what you mean by crude and blunt

    My ideal workplace is one where workers are forbidden to speak to each other.
    , @Anon
    Due to the extreme over sensitivity of blacks HR manuals have all sorts of ways to inform workers of rules and procedures.

    Often it takes the form of forcing a hundred or so workers to sit through sensitivity sessions where everybody is told not to curse all day long because the blacks curse all day long.

    Or the drug testing for everybody because the blacks come back from lunch either red eyed and half asleep from weed or screeching even louder and faster than usual from coke and speed.

    Or having to sign in and out for lunch because the blacks consider lunch hour to stretch from 12/30 to 2/30.


    True story from UCLA hospital when medical records were all paper and folders All but 2 of 70 or so medical records clerks were blacks.

    The men were recruited from parole and probation offices. The women were Clinton’s welfare to work program. UCLA, bring the White hating negro loving institution it is was so proud of itself for having this and other all blacks departments.

    Of course the blacks blathered all day long ; so loudly they could be heard from the elevator. Often drs nurses techs and clerks had to go to the records department in person to get medical records.

    So all day and night, from 8/am to midnight when fetching a record they had to listen to an endless stream of curse words while waiting for a medical record.

    Plus both hospital workers and visitors could hear them as soon as they got off the elevator.

    So finally the high up administration instructed the black women in charge of medical records to inform the scum & dregs that cursing is not professional.

    The cursing continued non stop. The administration cracked down more. The cursing continued.

    Someone finally figured out the problem. The blacks honestly didn’t know that mofa f*ck n word etc were unacceptable curse words

    That’s the reason UCLA turned its medical records over to a contractor. The contractor hired American Hispanics who knew the difference between curse words and acceptable conversation.

    I’ve always thought the standard behavior and language of blacks is the reason why affirmative action segued so quickly from blacks to women, Hispanics Asians and every conceivable demographic but White heterosexual man.
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  158. @J.Ross
    Restoring the original understanding of the Constitution means reversing a forgettable episode of un-Constitutional laws and institutions, not painting our faces green and speaking Esperanto.
    >recriminalize homosexuality?
    Oh there you go relying on the big state. We do need to restore shame for degeneracy and hedonism, to include heterosexual degeneracy. Criminalization, as no liberal can understand, means enforcement.
    >Restrict the franchise to large property owning males?
    We do need to restore the old way of electing Senators, as it is they're just a redundant assembly.
    We do need to withdraw the franchise from welfare recipients. Are you okay with Chinese bureaucrats stealing tax money, coming here, and then holding forth on how, as an American, they feel that the First and Second Amendments are outdated? Is there a good result of women's suffrage that you can name?
    >Arrest people wearing shorts in public for indecent exposure?
    Is that worse than destroying the careers of people who blurt the wrong opinions?
    What is the good thing that is going to result from a pinkhair's seventh piercing? Degenerate personal expression is a kind of defilement ritual solidifying commitment to self-destruction. Your personal life should be something private, not a hair shirt displayed to all. People should dress something like they're headed for a job interview, except for one weekend a month nearest the New Moon, when we will preclude children and relax certain rules in a sort of Mardi Gras, but with the practice of preferring clever costumes over mere nudity.
    >Reinstitute slavery?
    Slavery is the defining characteristic of globalists. It is instituted in too many restaurants and farms. We are the only side with an end to slavery and opposing us means embracing slavery.
    The Constitution is not an arbitrary Christmas list of things that sounded good at the time, it's a system. It doesn't function if you remove pieces from the crysralline central structure. And if it doesn't system then the laws are not laws.

    We do need to restore shame for degeneracy and hedonism, to include heterosexual degeneracy.

    Hear, hear!

    We do need to withdraw the franchise from welfare recipients.

    I think it makes sense to restrict franchise to property owners, no matter how small. When you own a business or a house, even a small condo, things like property value and taxes start to enter the brains of even leftists.

    Degenerate personal expression is a kind of defilement ritual solidifying commitment to self-destruction. Your personal life should be something private, not a hair shirt displayed to all.

    Were this a public establishment, my good Sir, I would buy you a drink!

    Slavery is the defining characteristic of globalists. It is instituted in too many restaurants and farms. We are the only side with an end to slavery and opposing us means embracing slavery.

    Opposing modern-day slavery is not only moral, but practical. Let us not keep helots, for one day they may overthrow us and enslave our children.

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  159. res says:
    @Twinkie

    Generally, a man has to choose between speaking the truth to women OR being “gallant”.
     
    I am generally chivalrous toward women and I tend to be pretty blunt. But I am usually gentlemanly about the way I am blunt. Indeed, there is being blunt, and there is being crude. Women of good sense and breeding (there are still some left) don't mind bluntness, but they certainly don't look kindly upon men who are crude.

    Don’t forget mean. I think a lot of confusion comes from bluntness being confused with meanness. My sense is women really don’t like it when men make them feel bad. You seem gracious enough that you probably run into this less often.

    Rule of thumb for myself: probably best not to be “blunt” when I am angry.

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    My sense is women really don’t like it when men make them feel bad.
     
    Curious that you find this noteworthy. Does anyone like it when someone makes them feel bad? If women are particularly unreceptive to constructive criticism, I hadn't noticed.

    The Left says men and women are exactly the same. The Right is now saying men and women have little or nothing in common. Both are wrong, of course.

    Rule of thumb for myself: probably best not to be “blunt” when I am angry.
     
    Very sensible.
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  160. @J.Ross
    People who believe men and women are the same are wrong, but they are not cucks.
    A cuck is a cuckold, one of Shakespeare's favorite insults: a man who has abdicated his masculine prerogatives, especially regarding his woman. The main presupposition in tolerating promiscuity, open relationships, and cucking is that female sexuality works just like male sexuality. So, yeah, people who believe that men and women are the same are cucks.

    So, yeah, people who believe that men and women are the same are cucks.

    This intellectually dishonest tendency to distort and redefine terms for use as weapons grows ever more tiresome.

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    >redefine
    Okay.
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  161. @res
    Don't forget mean. I think a lot of confusion comes from bluntness being confused with meanness. My sense is women really don't like it when men make them feel bad. You seem gracious enough that you probably run into this less often.

    Rule of thumb for myself: probably best not to be "blunt" when I am angry.

    My sense is women really don’t like it when men make them feel bad.

    Curious that you find this noteworthy. Does anyone like it when someone makes them feel bad? If women are particularly unreceptive to constructive criticism, I hadn’t noticed.

    The Left says men and women are exactly the same. The Right is now saying men and women have little or nothing in common. Both are wrong, of course.

    Rule of thumb for myself: probably best not to be “blunt” when I am angry.

    Very sensible.

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    If women are particularly unreceptive to constructive criticism, I hadn’t noticed.
     
    Nothing more needs to be said about the validity of your observations.
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  162. @Rosie

    My sense is women really don’t like it when men make them feel bad.
     
    Curious that you find this noteworthy. Does anyone like it when someone makes them feel bad? If women are particularly unreceptive to constructive criticism, I hadn't noticed.

    The Left says men and women are exactly the same. The Right is now saying men and women have little or nothing in common. Both are wrong, of course.

    Rule of thumb for myself: probably best not to be “blunt” when I am angry.
     
    Very sensible.

    If women are particularly unreceptive to constructive criticism, I hadn’t noticed.

    Nothing more needs to be said about the validity of your observations.

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    Curious that you find this noteworthy. Does anyone like it when someone makes them feel bad? If women are particularly unreceptive to constructive criticism, I hadn’t noticed.

    No one likes being made to feel bad (notice my use of the word really in the original statement). Some people take it more personally than others. I think women are more likely on average to do this than men. Do you disagree? Here is a brief take on why (the comments highlight how that piece was written almost 20 years after the book it references ; ): https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/he-speaks-she-speaks/201402/do-women-take-things-personally
    I am interested in your thoughts on all of this.

    To put this another way, I think women tend to define (on average again, obviously) “constructive criticism” a bit differently than men.

    The Left says men and women are exactly the same. The Right is now saying men and women have little or nothing in common. Both are wrong, of course.

    Agreed. There are both differences and similarities and it is important to remember that. Also important to remember that there is usually more variation within each sex than between the sexes (e.g. see height). Yes, that is “Lewontin’s fallacy,” but I believe that is only a fallacy when one uses it to imply the different averages don’t matter.

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  164. @Anon
    Does Jayme count as white? Isn't "Jayme" one of those names that "white" Brazilians use?

    Can’t figure out if Jayme is a man or a women or mis spelling of the Spanish name Jaime.

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    Jayme looks like Martin Freeman who played Bilbo Baggins in Lord of the Rings. You can't get much more English looking than that. But from his name, maybe he's French?

    My vague impression is that there was some kind of British or European clique thing going on at Nike. The leader of the fired executives is a British black named Trevor Edwards. Another one has an African name.

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  165. @Twinkie

    Generally, a man has to choose between speaking the truth to women OR being “gallant”.
     
    I am generally chivalrous toward women and I tend to be pretty blunt. But I am usually gentlemanly about the way I am blunt. Indeed, there is being blunt, and there is being crude. Women of good sense and breeding (there are still some left) don't mind bluntness, but they certainly don't look kindly upon men who are crude.

    Huh??

    Depends on what you mean by crude and blunt

    My ideal workplace is one where workers are forbidden to speak to each other.

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  166. @Madbent
    I worked at a huge Fortune 50 for over 20 years and witnessed many successive waves of efforts to increase our Most Precious Value, Diversity (although it wasn't always called this).

    Mostly, this focused on blacks, but it seemed the company learned from this after a few purges of pre Me-Too run of the mill sexual harassment/inappropriate shenanigans got rid of rapidly and over-promoted black males who liked the white women a bit too enthusiastically.

    So, what they did, is encourage leaders to self-identify as 'Diverse'. This led to some hilarious flight from white scenarios, where lots of whites magically discovered hidden depths of non-stale-pale-maleness.

    Blue eyed people with German surnames claimed to be Latino. White Lebanese Christians claimed to be anointed with the holy order of being Diverse. Blue eyes palefaces claimed to be Cherokee (why always this tribe?). An Italian guy claimed to be Puerto Rican. A Greek claimed the Precious as well.

    Beyond reducing the unfortunate tendencies of blacks with power to be overly grabby of the white ladies, what this did is position these corporate transracialists to benefit personally with the benefits of this anointed status, and to position the company externally as having higher numbers of non-whites, which of course means, less evil.

    Or how a White with a C average and less than average SAT scores can get into the top 10 colleges.

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  167. @Anon
    Can’t figure out if Jayme is a man or a women or mis spelling of the Spanish name Jaime.

    Jayme looks like Martin Freeman who played Bilbo Baggins in Lord of the Rings. You can’t get much more English looking than that. But from his name, maybe he’s French?

    My vague impression is that there was some kind of British or European clique thing going on at Nike. The leader of the fired executives is a British black named Trevor Edwards. Another one has an African name.

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    Probably a mis spelling of the Spanish version of James spelled Jaime.
    , @Triumph104
    I doubt there was a clique. Although the guy with the African name, Daniel Tawiah, attended art school in London (Central St. Martins). In the US, the black talented tenth is increasingly immigrant stock.

    In 2014, Facebook only had 45 black employees. A 2016 article reported that at least 18 Facebook employees were Nigerian or Nigerian-American. Facebook's director of diversity is a Yale-educated Rhodes Scholar from Trinidad.

    https://techpoint.ng/2016/08/31/nigerians-working-with-mark-zuckerberg-facebook/
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  168. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    Restoring the original understanding of the Constitution means reversing a forgettable episode of un-Constitutional laws and institutions, not painting our faces green and speaking Esperanto.
    >recriminalize homosexuality?
    Oh there you go relying on the big state. We do need to restore shame for degeneracy and hedonism, to include heterosexual degeneracy. Criminalization, as no liberal can understand, means enforcement.
    >Restrict the franchise to large property owning males?
    We do need to restore the old way of electing Senators, as it is they're just a redundant assembly.
    We do need to withdraw the franchise from welfare recipients. Are you okay with Chinese bureaucrats stealing tax money, coming here, and then holding forth on how, as an American, they feel that the First and Second Amendments are outdated? Is there a good result of women's suffrage that you can name?
    >Arrest people wearing shorts in public for indecent exposure?
    Is that worse than destroying the careers of people who blurt the wrong opinions?
    What is the good thing that is going to result from a pinkhair's seventh piercing? Degenerate personal expression is a kind of defilement ritual solidifying commitment to self-destruction. Your personal life should be something private, not a hair shirt displayed to all. People should dress something like they're headed for a job interview, except for one weekend a month nearest the New Moon, when we will preclude children and relax certain rules in a sort of Mardi Gras, but with the practice of preferring clever costumes over mere nudity.
    >Reinstitute slavery?
    Slavery is the defining characteristic of globalists. It is instituted in too many restaurants and farms. We are the only side with an end to slavery and opposing us means embracing slavery.
    The Constitution is not an arbitrary Christmas list of things that sounded good at the time, it's a system. It doesn't function if you remove pieces from the crysralline central structure. And if it doesn't system then the laws are not laws.

    Don’t want to start a fight but read about Marbury vs Madison 1805 and Cooper vs Aaron 1958.

    Don’t bother with the superficial wikepedia.

    Every county in the country has a law library open to the public. Every little branch courthouse in the boon docks has its little law library open to the public And there seems to be a law school every few miles to accommodate the jillion trillion liberal arts grads who don’t want to work at Starbucks for minimum wage.

    Essentially the Supreme Court is the law of the land. Laws can be made and overturned by the vote of one Supreme Court judge.

    These judge made laws can be and are enforced by federal law enforcement and even the army.

    That’s the way it it is and no amount of learned articles in National Review, American conservative or any other conservative publication can change that.

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  169. @Andrew M
    Easy solution: only hire female non-whites. They’re a diversity two-fer.

    That would ok if you let the Asians and Hispanics run the place. The blacks could be isolated so they could eat, have their potlucks and screech and fight all day long.

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  170. @Steve Sailer
    Jayme looks like Martin Freeman who played Bilbo Baggins in Lord of the Rings. You can't get much more English looking than that. But from his name, maybe he's French?

    My vague impression is that there was some kind of British or European clique thing going on at Nike. The leader of the fired executives is a British black named Trevor Edwards. Another one has an African name.

    Probably a mis spelling of the Spanish version of James spelled Jaime.

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  171. Anon[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    Generally, a man has to choose between speaking the truth to women OR being “gallant”.
     
    I am generally chivalrous toward women and I tend to be pretty blunt. But I am usually gentlemanly about the way I am blunt. Indeed, there is being blunt, and there is being crude. Women of good sense and breeding (there are still some left) don't mind bluntness, but they certainly don't look kindly upon men who are crude.

    Due to the extreme over sensitivity of blacks HR manuals have all sorts of ways to inform workers of rules and procedures.

    Often it takes the form of forcing a hundred or so workers to sit through sensitivity sessions where everybody is told not to curse all day long because the blacks curse all day long.

    Or the drug testing for everybody because the blacks come back from lunch either red eyed and half asleep from weed or screeching even louder and faster than usual from coke and speed.

    Or having to sign in and out for lunch because the blacks consider lunch hour to stretch from 12/30 to 2/30.

    True story from UCLA hospital when medical records were all paper and folders All but 2 of 70 or so medical records clerks were blacks.

    The men were recruited from parole and probation offices. The women were Clinton’s welfare to work program. UCLA, bring the White hating negro loving institution it is was so proud of itself for having this and other all blacks departments.

    Of course the blacks blathered all day long ; so loudly they could be heard from the elevator. Often drs nurses techs and clerks had to go to the records department in person to get medical records.

    So all day and night, from 8/am to midnight when fetching a record they had to listen to an endless stream of curse words while waiting for a medical record.

    Plus both hospital workers and visitors could hear them as soon as they got off the elevator.

    So finally the high up administration instructed the black women in charge of medical records to inform the scum & dregs that cursing is not professional.

    The cursing continued non stop. The administration cracked down more. The cursing continued.

    Someone finally figured out the problem. The blacks honestly didn’t know that mofa f*ck n word etc were unacceptable curse words

    That’s the reason UCLA turned its medical records over to a contractor. The contractor hired American Hispanics who knew the difference between curse words and acceptable conversation.

    I’ve always thought the standard behavior and language of blacks is the reason why affirmative action segued so quickly from blacks to women, Hispanics Asians and every conceivable demographic but White heterosexual man.

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  172. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:
    @Foreign Expert
    I was in Thailand shortly after this happened and was nearly electrocuted in a similar way. I find the story of his death believable.

    IIRC Deb and Chris mention this in their book Making Tracks, nearly getting killed by a zap in Thailand. “The electricity isn’t grounded”, she says. Not sure what she means-maybe it’s supposed to be floating instead of tied to an earth ground at neutral?

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  173. @Anonymous
    Men are certainly more ambitious and expansive in their outlook, but then that is how we got into this mess, isn’t it? The male drive to expand and penetrate is arguably the single most important causal force behind globalism.

    Not at all. Greatest force, excluding the Zionists, is female hypergamy, receptivity to more options in mate, and indifference to holding territory and to group loyalty.

    What’s hypergamy?

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  174. @Steve Sailer
    Jayme looks like Martin Freeman who played Bilbo Baggins in Lord of the Rings. You can't get much more English looking than that. But from his name, maybe he's French?

    My vague impression is that there was some kind of British or European clique thing going on at Nike. The leader of the fired executives is a British black named Trevor Edwards. Another one has an African name.

    I doubt there was a clique. Although the guy with the African name, Daniel Tawiah, attended art school in London (Central St. Martins). In the US, the black talented tenth is increasingly immigrant stock.

    In 2014, Facebook only had 45 black employees. A 2016 article reported that at least 18 Facebook employees were Nigerian or Nigerian-American. Facebook’s director of diversity is a Yale-educated Rhodes Scholar from Trinidad.

    https://techpoint.ng/2016/08/31/nigerians-working-with-mark-zuckerberg-facebook/

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  175. @Foreign Expert
    I was in Thailand shortly after this happened and was nearly electrocuted in a similar way. I find the story of his death believable.

    A British tourist was electrocuted in Thailand last year.

    Father-of-six Shaun Walley, 67, a tradesman from Stockport, had been visiting a friend in Thailand when he apparently touched a steel balcony handrail that was live with an electric current due to a faulty light box sign.

    The hotel in Chonburi have reportedly admitted the accident on October 19 was their fault, but have informed Mr Walley’s family they can’t afford to help.

    Now his step-daughter Ramona Brooks, 36, who is five months pregnant, is trying to raise £10,000 to cover the costs of bringing his body home so they can bury him.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5057623/Grandfather-electrocuted-hotel-s-live-handrail.html#ixzz5EHhiDgos

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  176. @Rosie

    So, yeah, people who believe that men and women are the same are cucks.
     
    This intellectually dishonest tendency to distort and redefine terms for use as weapons grows ever more tiresome.

    >redefine
    Okay.

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  177. @Rosie

    over time, will undermine qualities such as honesty that are essential to an advanced civilization.
     
    A rather attenuated causal relationship, I'd say. The truth is sex denialism is not nearly as counterintuitive as race denialism. The IQ gap between races dwarfs the sex gap. Moreover, it's most visible at the tail ends, which is quite different from the milieu in which most people live put their lives.

    But men and women do not function identically– smart women do not generally do the same sort of jobs as smart men. Not to mention that the idea that men and women are always interchangeable in any situation was the justification for the absurd gay marriage decision.

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