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BLM activist/brand DeRay Mckesson, who seems to wear a blue down vest all summer as his trademark, is not at all happy that this week’s new Planet of the Apes movie features a blue down vest-wearing character named Bad Ape.

And DeRay hasn’t gotten a penny (yet).

Yes, this was limp-fisted DeRay’s real tweet.

Planet of the Apes fans, however, have responded that DeRay should owe royalties instead for ripping off his blue quilted vest Look from the gorilla soldiers in the original Planet of the Apes movies.

Here are some toys modeled on the classic actors-in-ape-suits originals.

They are available wherever plastic crud is sold exclusively at Toys-R-Us:

In contrast, Sammy Davis Jr. thought the 1968 original Planet of the Apes was the best race metaphor movie ever.

Until his death in 1990, the singer proudly exhibited in his Beverly Hills backyard a 10′ tall fiberglass statue of John Huston as a wise ape that was used in one of the 1970s sequels.

Sammy died $5 million in debt to the IRS. So his widow gave the feds permission, despite its no doubt significant sentimental value to her, to haul away her late husband’s giant plastic monkey statue and see what they could get for it at auction ($2,500, as it turned out).

Now that I think about it, that $2,500 is rightfully DeRay’s.

The first Planet of the Apes reboot, Rise of the Planet of the Apes in 2011, had a smart script by Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver. But a different team took over the sequel Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and dumbed it down, so I’m not too optimistic about 2017′s War For the Planet of the Apes.

But, we’ll see.

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  1. I’m guessin’ the marginal return to this kind of effort is pretty thin by now. Maybe better to double down on the bad ape identity. Keep it real. Don’t waste your talent chasin’ butterflies. Don’t throw it all on 22.

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    Who cares about a movie franchise or us building the future.

    We wuz kangz!

    KANGZ!
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    That’s 9.5′ not 8′.

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  5. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    These new reboots are more of an environmentalism/animal rights metaphor than a race metaphor, unlike the original version.

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    The first one is something of an animal rights story, since we see the mistreatment of animals in a contemporary setting. But Dawn (because it's set after the collapse of civilization) is just a story about the collision between two different groups of people and the inability of leaders to prevent conflict from breaking out. The environmental aspect of, say, the dam is completely irrelevant, and an event involving environmental destruction is noted in the film only for its political effect.

    Lots of people seem to prefer Dawn of the Planet of the Apes to Rise, even with comparisons to The Empire Strikes Back. Having just watched it, I don't really understand why. But I might be predisposed to dislike Reeves due to Let Me In. Rupert Wyatt's "The Escapist" is a decent prison escape movie which may not be entirely original but does at least manage to justify its existence.

    It occurs to me there's a similarity between the Bourne trilogy and Apes reboot: the initial director is replaced and the next two have a different one. But instead of replacing an American with a Brit, this time it's the other way around. I believe there's something similar with the 50 Shades movies, but that's because the original director hated dealing with the author of the books.

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  6. I suppose there is a video game (or several) on the market? Perhaps Deray could try and get some royalties from the games.

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  7. Steve, are you going to review Planet of the Gapes?

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    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    Still waiting for someone to produce Triumph Of The Willy, maybe it doesn't have the same meaning in the US.
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  8. guest says:

    That tweet reads like boilerplate grievance. Probably not written by him. But assuming it is, I am offended and bored by his unoriginality.

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  9. TGGP says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    These new reboots are more of an environmentalism/animal rights metaphor than a race metaphor, unlike the original version.

    The first one is something of an animal rights story, since we see the mistreatment of animals in a contemporary setting. But Dawn (because it’s set after the collapse of civilization) is just a story about the collision between two different groups of people and the inability of leaders to prevent conflict from breaking out. The environmental aspect of, say, the dam is completely irrelevant, and an event involving environmental destruction is noted in the film only for its political effect.

    Lots of people seem to prefer Dawn of the Planet of the Apes to Rise, even with comparisons to The Empire Strikes Back. Having just watched it, I don’t really understand why. But I might be predisposed to dislike Reeves due to Let Me In. Rupert Wyatt’s “The Escapist” is a decent prison escape movie which may not be entirely original but does at least manage to justify its existence.

    It occurs to me there’s a similarity between the Bourne trilogy and Apes reboot: the initial director is replaced and the next two have a different one. But instead of replacing an American with a Brit, this time it’s the other way around. I believe there’s something similar with the 50 Shades movies, but that’s because the original director hated dealing with the author of the books.

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    TGGP - you & Art Deco are so, so similar in style & in content...have the two of you ever considered getting together and founding a joint blog, devoted to picking nits?
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  10. guest says:

    The race angle I don’t remember being prominent in Planet of the Apes, though I wasn’t “woke” when I saw it. Conquest of the Planet of the Apes really rubbed your face in race, though. The original was more about the science versus religion thing and [spoiler alert] nuclear war.

    As a whitey, I can assure Others we don’t see them as dumb animals fit for experimental brain surgery.

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    I thought the emphasis was on science vs religion too in the original, race not so much.

    The new first Ape film perhaps animal rights and limits of science but mostly just a good story with no deep meaning. The second the inevitability of conflict between groups.

    , @syonredux

    The race angle I don’t remember being prominent in Planet of the Apes, though I wasn’t “woke” when I saw it. Conquest of the Planet of the Apes really rubbed your face in race, though. The original was more about the science versus religion thing and [spoiler alert] nuclear war.

     

    Dunno. The racial theme seems pretty strong to me. Western Civilization has fallen. Now, the apes rule. And the casting of Heston adds mythic weight to the tale.Heston, after all, had basically served as the cinematic incarnation of Western Civilization in the ’50s and ’60s. He was Moses, Michelangelo, Andrew Jackson (twice), Charles George Gordon, Mark Antony (twice), William Clark (of Lewis and Clark fame), John the Baptist, El Cid, etc.

    And the this icon of Western Will fails. PLANET OF THE APES was Tarzan in reverse (from “Lord of the Apes” to “Slave of the Apes?”). Instead of the Anglo hero achieving dominion over his inferiors (cf Heston’s snide crack after seeing the mute, apelike humans:”If this is the best they’ve got around here, in six months we’ll be running this planet.”), he is bested by them in this “madhouse” where apes rule over men.
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  11. “As a big fan of instant noodles, I’m floored how ridiculous people get about them.”

    OK this quote above seems maybe a tiny bit out of context – but it sums this so appropriately down-vested Planet of the Apes-opposer’s thoughts up quite nicely even though.

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  12. “In contrast, Sammy Davis Jr. thought the 1968 original Planet of the Apes was the best race metaphor movie ever.”

    I knew a man who was in a California prison and watched the original with other inmates. Whenever the apes would get over on the humans, all the Black inmates would cheer and stamp their feet. When the humans won a round, the White and Hispanic inmates would cheer and yell.

    Things got so heated the guards had to come in and settle everyone down.

    I would love to tell this story to every one of my old professors in San Francisco.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    It was more granular than that:among the apes (more or less), the gorillas represent Negros (violent and bloodthirsty savages); the orangutans Orientals (meek, unreflective, and pursuing science and knowledge almost robitically); and the chimpanzees Europeans (intelligent, insightful, and humane).

    The mestizoids (whom I presume you designate as Hispanics; Hispanics of course can be as white as Penelope Cruz or as mestizoid or even Amerindian as George Lopez...) did not rate a representative race. Perhaps Mr. Boulle might have added gibbons to give the mestizoids a voice, but of course then the Hindoos or the Australian aboriginals would only complain. There is no pleasing everyone. Still, it would have been neat warching gibbons with pot bellies wearing stained tank tops, doing all the menial labour, and riding around on their horses drunkenly, refusing to learn and speak the common tongue used by all the other sentient apes...I bet they'd have had the shiniest rims on their carriages, too....

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  13. Rod1963 says:

    Looking the the trailers for the 3rd installment, it seems like Neo-Nazi skin heads vs the noble brown skinned people. They made it pretty obvious.

    A poor man’s Avatar without the unobtanium or whatever mineral they were looking for.

    It’s all part of removing white males from leading roles or turning them into neutered fools, bad guys or just plain trash. Atomic Blond is another spy movie where the ultimate tough guy is a woman who makes Bourne look like a wimp.

    Normally I don’t watch new movies when they come out, but I do watch the trailers and damn if they aren’t in your face.

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    Normally I don’t watch new movies when they come out, but I do watch the trailers and damn if they aren’t in your face.

    The market for a good fashy movie must be huge... if you could get it distributed. There is minimal modern competition for it. The comedic opportunities are also ripe. So many holy cows!
    , @Mr. Anon

    Atomic Blond is another spy movie where the ultimate tough guy is a woman who makes Bourne look like a wimp.
     
    I saw that preview too. The POZ is poured on pretty thick in that one. It looks like complete crap. It is based on a comic-book, of course.
    , @Clyde

    Atomic Blond is another spy movie where the ultimate tough guy is a woman who makes Bourne look like a wimp.
     
    I never watch those woman_as_super_duper_hero_ movies moderna feminista garbooge. Only exception are the Resident Evil movies. I like Mila Jovich and she really exerts her tight tight self. Great action and weapons play. The most recent one was one of the best.
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  14. OT – kinda – Melinda Gates essay in the German daily Die Welt – asking the world, really, to improve family planning – especially in underdeveloped countries:

    “Let’s Invest in Contraception”

    https://www.welt.de/print/die_welt/debatte/article166514480/Investieren-wir-in-Verhuetung.html

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    OT – kinda

     

    https://sciencelife.uchospitals.edu/2011/06/27/what-happens-to-gorillas-on-the-pill/

    In zoos, keepers strive to preserve as much of the natural experience as possible for their animals. But not everything can be left up to nature behind zoo walls. While encouraging reproduction can be a zoo mission for captive endangered species, other species can’t be allowed to procreate without limits, lest the zoo run out of room for booming families. In primates, zookeepers turn to a familiar method of birth control – the same hormone-based contraception developed for humans.
     
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    Has the Gates family been touring Europe recently? I wonder if that's what made the light bulbs click on.
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  15. anon says: • Disclaimer

    As I recall, the Tim Burton remake laid it on particularly thick.

    Deray’s take really is the dumbest imaginable one, though. It’s on the level of assuming The Joker is the good guy, because he’s dressed as a smiling clown, while Batman is the bad guy, because he’s dressed up in a weird black bat costume.

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    Aperations Now

    Can it be paid in bananas?

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    I think the only way (on unz.com comments) is as a Twitter pic or YouTube link.

    Disturbing pic btw.

    , @BenKenobi
    That's pretty lulzy.

    Also, in my experience linking to imgur will display images. I've done it before, but it hasn't worked everytime. YMMV
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    @bjdubbs
    How do you get this to display as an image?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEa2HkUU0AAwuPQ.jpg

    I think the only way (on unz.com comments) is as a Twitter pic or YouTube link.

    Disturbing pic btw.

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  19. LondonBob says:
    @guest
    The race angle I don't remember being prominent in Planet of the Apes, though I wasn't "woke" when I saw it. Conquest of the Planet of the Apes really rubbed your face in race, though. The original was more about the science versus religion thing and [spoiler alert] nuclear war.

    As a whitey, I can assure Others we don't see them as dumb animals fit for experimental brain surgery.

    I thought the emphasis was on science vs religion too in the original, race not so much.

    The new first Ape film perhaps animal rights and limits of science but mostly just a good story with no deep meaning. The second the inevitability of conflict between groups.

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  20. dearieme says:

    I never understood why nobody raised an eyebrow at the racism in the Disney film of the Jungle Book. Perhaps because it was one of the few Disney children’s films that didn’t provoke instant vomiting by adults (or the more discerning children)?

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    I never understood why nobody raised an eyebrow at the racism in the Disney film of the Jungle Book.
     
    Dunno. SJWs have voiced their displeasure on quite a few occasions....


    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/apr/03/jungle-book-disney-remake-racism-worries


    http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/29/prof-disneys-jungle-book-was-racist-should-be-sanitized-for-remake/

    http://io9.gizmodo.com/reminder-rudyard-kipling-was-a-racist-fuck-and-the-jun-1771044121


    The io9 piece is particularly vitriolic:

    We are currently in the 21st century. We are in the second decade of the 21st century and there are not one, not two, but three Jungle Book movies on the horizon. And that means that it’s time to remind everyone that Rudyard Kipling was a piece of racist, imperialist trash.
     

    And, of course, we have The Jungle Book itself. The Jungle Book is just as drenched with racism and colonialism as anything else Kipling wrote on the subject. The thread running throughout the stories is that Mowgli is superior to the animals that raised him by virtue of being man, not beast. That’s a neat parallel to Britain and India. There’s a fun little story in The Second Jungle Book about a superstitious Indian village that worships a horrible old crocodile, only for a British man to blow it to pieces. Because they are more rational, you see.

    I’m not saying that Kipling should be censored, but I am saying that he cannot be presented without context. There are messages in The Jungle Book that are very hard to remove. Hell, Disney managed to add to the problems in the 1960s when it added a character called King Louie, who is widely seen as a racist caricature of black people. (Kipling’s book has monkeys, which are the worst of the animal lot, being incapable of having government and only able to mimic others without a decent culture of their own.)
     
    , @syonredux

    Perhaps because it was one of the few Disney children’s films that didn’t provoke instant vomiting by adults (or the more discerning children)?
     
    When I was a kid, my favorite Disney film was their 1954 live-action adaptation of Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. I really liked the proto-steampunk design of the Nautilus.
    , @whorefinder
    Disney is pre-emptively SJW. It has kept Song of the South under lock-and-key, never releasing it on DVD. This is despite the fact that it was re-released in the 1980s into theaters. The Mouse House is quite adept at self-censorship; it even created a whole new production imprint for its non-G rated movies, just to keep its brand clean.
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  21. MEH 0910 says:
    @Dieter Kief
    OT - kinda - Melinda Gates essay in the German daily Die Welt - asking the world, really, to improve family planning - especially in underdeveloped countries:

    "Let's Invest in Contraception"


    https://www.welt.de/print/die_welt/debatte/article166514480/Investieren-wir-in-Verhuetung.html

    OT – kinda

    https://sciencelife.uchospitals.edu/2011/06/27/what-happens-to-gorillas-on-the-pill/

    In zoos, keepers strive to preserve as much of the natural experience as possible for their animals. But not everything can be left up to nature behind zoo walls. While encouraging reproduction can be a zoo mission for captive endangered species, other species can’t be allowed to procreate without limits, lest the zoo run out of room for booming families. In primates, zookeepers turn to a familiar method of birth control – the same hormone-based contraception developed for humans.

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    Cripes, what a tease you are.

    Read through your whole comment to find out what the URL promises--"what happens to gorillas on the pill."

    Nuthin. Harumph.
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  22. MEH 0910 says:

    War for the Planet of the Apes | Meeting Bad Ape | 20th Century FOX

    Caesar and his band of Simian brothers discover an unknown, newly evolved ape named “Bad Ape” (Steve Zahn) – an escapee from a zoo. For the first time in the trilogy, Caesar and his apes discover a new ape outside of their tribe, marking a critical moment in the war between Humans and Apes.

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  23. kihowi says:

    Why would you watch a post-1950s movie. I don’t get it. Is playing the lottery hoping you won’t get one that’s about hating you really entertaining?

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    Why would you watch a post-1950s movie. I don’t get it. Is playing the lottery hoping you won’t get one that’s about hating you really entertaining?
     
    I'd go with post-mid-1980's. Otherwise, I'm on board with your thesis. Almost all new movies suck now. I don't like golf either, BTW.
    , @Anonym
    Why would you watch a post-1950s movie. I don’t get it. Is playing the lottery hoping you won’t get one that’s about hating you really entertaining?

    That's why they have reviews, imdb, Mel Gibson, and this:

    https://www.whitenationalism.com/cwar/movlst.htm
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  24. @Mike Adriano
    Steve, are you going to review Planet of the Gapes?

    Still waiting for someone to produce Triumph Of The Willy, maybe it doesn’t have the same meaning in the US.

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    I hear there's a German adaptation out now: Monkey See, Men Doo.

    (Thanks; I'm here all week. Please remember to donate to the host.)

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  25. dr kill says:

    I’d like to hear Harambe’s take on this issue, but they executed him.

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  26. Anonym says:
    @Rod1963
    Looking the the trailers for the 3rd installment, it seems like Neo-Nazi skin heads vs the noble brown skinned people. They made it pretty obvious.

    A poor man's Avatar without the unobtanium or whatever mineral they were looking for.

    It's all part of removing white males from leading roles or turning them into neutered fools, bad guys or just plain trash. Atomic Blond is another spy movie where the ultimate tough guy is a woman who makes Bourne look like a wimp.

    Normally I don't watch new movies when they come out, but I do watch the trailers and damn if they aren't in your face.

    Normally I don’t watch new movies when they come out, but I do watch the trailers and damn if they aren’t in your face.

    The market for a good fashy movie must be huge… if you could get it distributed. There is minimal modern competition for it. The comedic opportunities are also ripe. So many holy cows!

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    The market for a good fashy movie must be huge… if you could get it distributed. There is minimal modern competition for it. The comedic opportunities are also ripe. So many holy cows!
     
    Lord of the Rings?

    (Intentional or not, it was part of its success)

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  27. @kihowi
    Why would you watch a post-1950s movie. I don't get it. Is playing the lottery hoping you won't get one that's about hating you really entertaining?

    Why would you watch a post-1950s movie. I don’t get it. Is playing the lottery hoping you won’t get one that’s about hating you really entertaining?

    I’d go with post-mid-1980′s. Otherwise, I’m on board with your thesis. Almost all new movies suck now. I don’t like golf either, BTW.

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  28. Ape shall not kill ape.

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  29. Anonym says:
    @kihowi
    Why would you watch a post-1950s movie. I don't get it. Is playing the lottery hoping you won't get one that's about hating you really entertaining?

    Why would you watch a post-1950s movie. I don’t get it. Is playing the lottery hoping you won’t get one that’s about hating you really entertaining?

    That’s why they have reviews, imdb, Mel Gibson, and this:

    https://www.whitenationalism.com/cwar/movlst.htm

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  30. Arclight says:

    Deray should have quit while he was ahead – he had a good thing going popping up in various locations and being photographed holding up a fist while wearing his vest. Easiest job ever. Being a pop culture killjoy is not a role anyone admires.

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  31. AMH says:

    Now all restaurants are Taco Bell…..

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    Wrong thread. This is for the Brooks thread.
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  32. Mr. Anon says:
    @Rod1963
    Looking the the trailers for the 3rd installment, it seems like Neo-Nazi skin heads vs the noble brown skinned people. They made it pretty obvious.

    A poor man's Avatar without the unobtanium or whatever mineral they were looking for.

    It's all part of removing white males from leading roles or turning them into neutered fools, bad guys or just plain trash. Atomic Blond is another spy movie where the ultimate tough guy is a woman who makes Bourne look like a wimp.

    Normally I don't watch new movies when they come out, but I do watch the trailers and damn if they aren't in your face.

    Atomic Blond is another spy movie where the ultimate tough guy is a woman who makes Bourne look like a wimp.

    I saw that preview too. The POZ is poured on pretty thick in that one. It looks like complete crap. It is based on a comic-book, of course.

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    • Replies: @Clyde
    Avoid zombie movies, vampire movies and movies based on comic books.
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  33. Clyde says:

    Love the inside “Apes” dope on Mr Triple Threat Sammy Davis Junior
    “Sammy Davis Jr. was an entertainment powerhouse, a true triple threat of talent. Sammy could sing, dance, act, and be funny, too. He started at age 3 in vaudeville …” — internet

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    I can't say that I know very much about his work, but anyone who checks out owing the IRS $5 million is a hero in my book. They can have my planet-of-the-apes lawn statue when they repossess it from my cold dead estate sale.

    Get off my lawn, you dirty ape!


    (I'm doing 2 movie quotes at a time now to save the moderator some work.)
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  34. Clyde says:
    @Rod1963
    Looking the the trailers for the 3rd installment, it seems like Neo-Nazi skin heads vs the noble brown skinned people. They made it pretty obvious.

    A poor man's Avatar without the unobtanium or whatever mineral they were looking for.

    It's all part of removing white males from leading roles or turning them into neutered fools, bad guys or just plain trash. Atomic Blond is another spy movie where the ultimate tough guy is a woman who makes Bourne look like a wimp.

    Normally I don't watch new movies when they come out, but I do watch the trailers and damn if they aren't in your face.

    Atomic Blond is another spy movie where the ultimate tough guy is a woman who makes Bourne look like a wimp.

    I never watch those woman_as_super_duper_hero_ movies moderna feminista garbooge. Only exception are the Resident Evil movies. I like Mila Jovich and she really exerts her tight tight self. Great action and weapons play. The most recent one was one of the best.

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    Two words for you, my friend. Kate Beckinsale.
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    He HAS to be getting something out of Taco Bell.

    How can any one man post 3-4 random Taco Bell related tweets like that? If he threw in one Chipotle tweet for balance, it would create some believability.

    Somebody needs to get to the bottom of this. It's just odd.
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  36. I liked Rise of the Planet of the Apes, but I preferred Dawn. It accomplished its thematic goal of stressing how two incompatible groups could not perpetually co-exist. It is a very counter-cultural theme for a movie to take today. Moreover, it did this without turning its characters into over-the-top cartoons. Even Koba, as bad as he was, was plausible as a damaged sociopath scheming, maneuvering and fighting for alpha status–as chimps actually do.

    The next installment looks to be full of triple-stuffed dumb, unfortunately. It looks like they’re trying to reprise the awful Battle for the Planet of the Apes, from whence we get John Huston’s statue.

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  37. vinteuil says:
    @TGGP
    The first one is something of an animal rights story, since we see the mistreatment of animals in a contemporary setting. But Dawn (because it's set after the collapse of civilization) is just a story about the collision between two different groups of people and the inability of leaders to prevent conflict from breaking out. The environmental aspect of, say, the dam is completely irrelevant, and an event involving environmental destruction is noted in the film only for its political effect.

    Lots of people seem to prefer Dawn of the Planet of the Apes to Rise, even with comparisons to The Empire Strikes Back. Having just watched it, I don't really understand why. But I might be predisposed to dislike Reeves due to Let Me In. Rupert Wyatt's "The Escapist" is a decent prison escape movie which may not be entirely original but does at least manage to justify its existence.

    It occurs to me there's a similarity between the Bourne trilogy and Apes reboot: the initial director is replaced and the next two have a different one. But instead of replacing an American with a Brit, this time it's the other way around. I believe there's something similar with the 50 Shades movies, but that's because the original director hated dealing with the author of the books.

    TGGP – you & Art Deco are so, so similar in style & in content…have the two of you ever considered getting together and founding a joint blog, devoted to picking nits?

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    I'm not familiar enough with "Art Deco" to have an opinion on them. The comments here typically aren't that great, so I don't read them that frequently. And I already have a blog which I hardly ever update, though I do enjoy picking nits.
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  38. @Dieter Kief
    OT - kinda - Melinda Gates essay in the German daily Die Welt - asking the world, really, to improve family planning - especially in underdeveloped countries:

    "Let's Invest in Contraception"


    https://www.welt.de/print/die_welt/debatte/article166514480/Investieren-wir-in-Verhuetung.html

    Has the Gates family been touring Europe recently? I wonder if that’s what made the light bulbs click on.

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    Melinda Gates has been pushing family planning in Africa through the Gates Foundation for awhile now. She does it under the guise of female empowerment, but she seems to understand on some level a world with 4 billion Africans isn't a place anyone else would want to live.
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  39. Your post title has got me wondering: Is it common to placate some of the SJW’s with action figures? I think that would be a small price to pay, especially when, for many of these blockbuster action features, there is usually a container or two of surplus that somehow “fell off the boat” and could be distributed to these people SJW’s.

    If Al Sharpton had been given a few Superman figures or some other type of collectible action figures, some deaths may have been avoided back in the day. I mean, these transformers are amazing – it took us an hour to figure out how one of them transformed.

    “Stop the Hate!
    We want Transformers!

    Stop the Hate!
    We want Transformers!

    Stop the Hate!
    We want Transformers!”

    “Hey hey, ho ho, how in the hell do you transform this, bro?”

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  40. jim jones says:
    @Lurker
    I think the only way (on unz.com comments) is as a Twitter pic or YouTube link.

    Disturbing pic btw.

    Upload the image to Imgur and Unz will show a preview

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  41. I wonder which analogy would be most salient in today’s world?:

    1) Apes as analogs of blacks in mixed race societies finally giving whitey his comeuppance; or,

    2) Apes as analogs of MENA “migrants” who will one day give Western whitey his comeuppance; or

    3) Apes as analogs of the non-elite classes who will one day give the self-regarded elites their comeuppance in the fashion of the Wells Morlock/Eloi dichotomy.

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  42. @Clyde
    Love the inside "Apes" dope on Mr Triple Threat Sammy Davis Junior
    "Sammy Davis Jr. was an entertainment powerhouse, a true triple threat of talent. Sammy could sing, dance, act, and be funny, too. He started at age 3 in vaudeville ..." -- internet
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USxvJFfKXrE

    I can’t say that I know very much about his work, but anyone who checks out owing the IRS $5 million is a hero in my book. They can have my planet-of-the-apes lawn statue when they repossess it from my cold dead estate sale.

    Get off my lawn, you dirty ape!

    (I’m doing 2 movie quotes at a time now to save the moderator some work.)

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    I can’t say that I know very much about his work, but anyone who checks out owing the IRS $5 million is a hero in my book.
     
    My guess would be that the IRS got their 97 lbs. of flesh that was Sammy Davis Jr.'s hide.

    I'd suppose that the earnings inuring to his Estate for use of his likeness after his death provided Uncle Sam with his $5 Million and then some.
    , @whoever
    Davis also married May Britt, which also makes him some kind of hero, too.

    May Britt Pictures
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  43. TGGP says: • Website
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    TGGP - you & Art Deco are so, so similar in style & in content...have the two of you ever considered getting together and founding a joint blog, devoted to picking nits?

    I’m not familiar enough with “Art Deco” to have an opinion on them. The comments here typically aren’t that great, so I don’t read them that frequently. And I already have a blog which I hardly ever update, though I do enjoy picking nits.

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    Next time, get screenshots or archive.is captures of his tweets. The tweet you linked has been deleted.

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  45. Barnard says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    Has the Gates family been touring Europe recently? I wonder if that's what made the light bulbs click on.

    Melinda Gates has been pushing family planning in Africa through the Gates Foundation for awhile now. She does it under the guise of female empowerment, but she seems to understand on some level a world with 4 billion Africans isn’t a place anyone else would want to live.

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    The stable she owns in Wellington FL would easily house several hundred. What's she waiting for?
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  46. MarcB. says:

    The Mummies – (You Must Fight To Live) On The Planet Of The Apes

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    I'm waiting for the mash up between zombies, Planet and . . . Game of Thrones?
    Not that I have seen any of them.
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  47. @Achmed E. Newman
    I can't say that I know very much about his work, but anyone who checks out owing the IRS $5 million is a hero in my book. They can have my planet-of-the-apes lawn statue when they repossess it from my cold dead estate sale.

    Get off my lawn, you dirty ape!


    (I'm doing 2 movie quotes at a time now to save the moderator some work.)

    I can’t say that I know very much about his work, but anyone who checks out owing the IRS $5 million is a hero in my book.

    My guess would be that the IRS got their 97 lbs. of flesh that was Sammy Davis Jr.’s hide.

    I’d suppose that the earnings inuring to his Estate for use of his likeness after his death provided Uncle Sam with his $5 Million and then some.

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  48. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    That’s really Kaus in Idiocracy? What’s the story behind that?

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    It kind of looks like Mickey Kaus, but I think Steve is just joking. IMDB credits Danny Cochran who has a couple of other acting credits.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0168150/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t48
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  49. BenKenobi says:
    @bjdubbs
    How do you get this to display as an image?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEa2HkUU0AAwuPQ.jpg

    That’s pretty lulzy.

    Also, in my experience linking to imgur will display images. I’ve done it before, but it hasn’t worked everytime. YMMV

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  50. In contrast, Sammy Davis Jr. thought the 1968 original Planet of the Apes was the best race metaphor movie ever.

    I would have to agree with Sammy in this case.

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  51. Joe Sweet says:

    “limp-fisted DeRay” lol.

    The first time I saw that photo it occurred to me that DeRay wasn’t expressing his desire for Black Power as much as signaling his desire for Black Penis.

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  52. Taco Bell to switch to cage-free eggs after 2016, ahead of rivals

    If this “cage-free eggs” fad doesn’t run out of steam soon, eggs are going to get very much more expensive.

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  53. Speaking of black people, I found this black power message board “The Coli” the other day.

    In a lot of ways it’s hilarious, it’s literally a black alt right threads of discussing White men taking their black women and seem very opposed to race mixing. They are anti feminist and anti degeneracy. Really interesting look into a totally different world.

    http://www.thecoli.com

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  54. Steve on fire with the humor

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  56. syonredux says:
    @guest
    The race angle I don't remember being prominent in Planet of the Apes, though I wasn't "woke" when I saw it. Conquest of the Planet of the Apes really rubbed your face in race, though. The original was more about the science versus religion thing and [spoiler alert] nuclear war.

    As a whitey, I can assure Others we don't see them as dumb animals fit for experimental brain surgery.

    The race angle I don’t remember being prominent in Planet of the Apes, though I wasn’t “woke” when I saw it. Conquest of the Planet of the Apes really rubbed your face in race, though. The original was more about the science versus religion thing and [spoiler alert] nuclear war.

    Dunno. The racial theme seems pretty strong to me. Western Civilization has fallen. Now, the apes rule. And the casting of Heston adds mythic weight to the tale.Heston, after all, had basically served as the cinematic incarnation of Western Civilization in the ’50s and ’60s. He was Moses, Michelangelo, Andrew Jackson (twice), Charles George Gordon, Mark Antony (twice), William Clark (of Lewis and Clark fame), John the Baptist, El Cid, etc.

    And the this icon of Western Will fails. PLANET OF THE APES was Tarzan in reverse (from “Lord of the Apes” to “Slave of the Apes?”). Instead of the Anglo hero achieving dominion over his inferiors (cf Heston’s snide crack after seeing the mute, apelike humans:”If this is the best they’ve got around here, in six months we’ll be running this planet.”), he is bested by them in this “madhouse” where apes rule over men.

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    An excellent insight into Heston's role in the original Planet of the Apes, Syon--both as the iconic Man of the West, and as an inversion of Tarzan (whose mode of dress he "apes" in the latter part of the film).

    In the same spirit, the Heston/Taylor character in Pierre Boulle's original novel is named "Ulysses."
    , @dinduNuffins
    Don't forget Omega Man,which was better than the Will Smith version.Omega Man was all about taking down THE MAN i.e. White Society.Listen to one of the scenes with Anthony Zerbe talking to the Black "brothas".It's loaded with anti-white anti america messages.And Charlie Heston is the only surviving White Man and his world.Just like what is really happening today.One day we will be in Omega Man,and there will be only a few of us left trying to keep America alive.
    , @Jake
    The ending of the original novel makes it clear that the French author's (Pierre Boulle) primary focus was evolution. I won't give it away, as it is not part of the movie.

    But Americans made the movie very much about race, with apes as stand ins for non-whites. In this form, white man destroys civilization, and apes (non-whites) take over, and treat the surviving whites as slaves or lower animals.

    The fun thing to discuss today along those lines is that the white Elites are destroying civilization, by romanticizing and petting non-whites. In subsequent films, humans making spoiled brat pets of apes is what leads to the ape rebellion that makes slaves of humans.

    In these movies, you are supposed to cheer for the apes, and then act culturally and politically to make at least serfs of most whites.
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  57. Olorin says:
    @MEH 0910

    OT – kinda

     

    https://sciencelife.uchospitals.edu/2011/06/27/what-happens-to-gorillas-on-the-pill/

    In zoos, keepers strive to preserve as much of the natural experience as possible for their animals. But not everything can be left up to nature behind zoo walls. While encouraging reproduction can be a zoo mission for captive endangered species, other species can’t be allowed to procreate without limits, lest the zoo run out of room for booming families. In primates, zookeepers turn to a familiar method of birth control – the same hormone-based contraception developed for humans.
     

    Cripes, what a tease you are.

    Read through your whole comment to find out what the URL promises–”what happens to gorillas on the pill.”

    Nuthin. Harumph.

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    If you want something a little more salacious, the effect on an alpha male Caribbean monkey of having all his hoes on contraception is pretty cray cray.

    http://prolife365.com/birth-control-study/
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  58. syonredux says:
    @dearieme
    I never understood why nobody raised an eyebrow at the racism in the Disney film of the Jungle Book. Perhaps because it was one of the few Disney children's films that didn't provoke instant vomiting by adults (or the more discerning children)?

    I never understood why nobody raised an eyebrow at the racism in the Disney film of the Jungle Book.

    Dunno. SJWs have voiced their displeasure on quite a few occasions….

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/apr/03/jungle-book-disney-remake-racism-worries

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/29/prof-disneys-jungle-book-was-racist-should-be-sanitized-for-remake/

    http://io9.gizmodo.com/reminder-rudyard-kipling-was-a-racist-fuck-and-the-jun-1771044121

    The io9 piece is particularly vitriolic:

    We are currently in the 21st century. We are in the second decade of the 21st century and there are not one, not two, but three Jungle Book movies on the horizon. And that means that it’s time to remind everyone that Rudyard Kipling was a piece of racist, imperialist trash.

    And, of course, we have The Jungle Book itself. The Jungle Book is just as drenched with racism and colonialism as anything else Kipling wrote on the subject. The thread running throughout the stories is that Mowgli is superior to the animals that raised him by virtue of being man, not beast. That’s a neat parallel to Britain and India. There’s a fun little story in The Second Jungle Book about a superstitious Indian village that worships a horrible old crocodile, only for a British man to blow it to pieces. Because they are more rational, you see.

    I’m not saying that Kipling should be censored, but I am saying that he cannot be presented without context. There are messages in The Jungle Book that are very hard to remove. Hell, Disney managed to add to the problems in the 1960s when it added a character called King Louie, who is widely seen as a racist caricature of black people. (Kipling’s book has monkeys, which are the worst of the animal lot, being incapable of having government and only able to mimic others without a decent culture of their own.)

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    , @ChrisZ
    Thanks for sharing this, Syon. Nothing reveals the philistinism of the SJW crowd more than their attempts at "cultural criticism" -- like this specimen on Kipling and the Jungle Books. They're so certain in their indignation, so categorical in drawing their "bright lines"--"racist," "colonialist," etc.

    I read the Mowgli stories and marvel at the sheer imagination and literary technique deployed by Kipling. I suppose one can see them as imperialist parables, but only a fundamentalist would insist that that's ALL they are.

    To me, those stories are more like a hymn to Man, and to the difference being human makes. That especially comes out at the end of "Mowgli's Brothers," when Mowgli says farewell to his animal companions. Kipling could have depicted Mowgli as a misplaced European (as Edgar Rice Burroughs would later do with Tarzan), but he chose instead to make him an Indian boy. He's making the Aristotelean point that Man qua Man stands apart from the other animals. Old-time Liberals would find that a pleasing confirmation of human "universality"--but today's SJWs are blind to everything except irreducible tribalism. As I wrote, they're fundamentalists.

    It occurs to me that the opposite of Kipling's Jungle Books would be Wells' Island of Dr. Moreau, which argues that the human capacities are not so special after all: a dog is just a surgical operation away from being a man, and vice versa. Something of that argument lies behind the uncanniness of Planet of the Apes, as well.
    , @dearieme
    It was King Louie I had in mind. As a fan of Louis Armstrong - presumably the model Disney had in mind - I noticed the racism without being particularly perturbed by it. Armstrong was too great an artist for me to bother about darts from the home of saccharine.

    I'm also a fan of Louis Prima who voiced the part. Presumably he wasn't much bothered either.

    You'll forgive me, I hope, if I don't spend time reading the views of stupid and malevolent people about Kipling, but thank you for drawing my attention to their existence.
    , @Roderick Spode
    Disney's King Louie is based on Louis Armstrong, one of the most beloved American entertainers of any race, but was voiced by professional Armstrong impersonator Louis Prima (an early "wigger"?)

    Interesting read here: http://theaporetic.com/?p=3186
    , @Autochthon

    Mowgli is superior to the animals that raised him by virtue of being man, not beast.
     
    This is universally accepted in a very meaningful way. It's why we eat cows and not humans; it's why we put crippled humans in wheelchairs but shoot crippled horses (to cite but two examples).

    That’s a neat parallel to Britain and India.
     
    By any objective measure, Britain is (or was until very recently; the Indians at least aren't committing genetic suicide...) observably superiour to India: science, technology, music, art, literature, industry, navigation....

    [A] superstitious Indian village...worships a horrible old crocodile, only for a British man to blow it to pieces. Because they are more rational, you see.
     
    Much could be written, so I shall just point out that to this day Indians bathe in toxic rivers and many drink their own urine to obtain perceived spirtual and medicinal benefits; the British ended the practice of sutee in India, and, effectively ended trade in slaves worldwide (via their uncontested maritime might).

    [The king of the Bandar-log invented by Disney for his cinematic adaptation is a] racist caricature of black people. (Kipling’s book has monkeys, which are the worst of the animal lot, being incapable of having government and only able to mimic others without a decent culture of their own.)
     
    I'll just leave this right here.
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  59. @syonredux

    I never understood why nobody raised an eyebrow at the racism in the Disney film of the Jungle Book.
     
    Dunno. SJWs have voiced their displeasure on quite a few occasions....


    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/apr/03/jungle-book-disney-remake-racism-worries


    http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/29/prof-disneys-jungle-book-was-racist-should-be-sanitized-for-remake/

    http://io9.gizmodo.com/reminder-rudyard-kipling-was-a-racist-fuck-and-the-jun-1771044121


    The io9 piece is particularly vitriolic:

    We are currently in the 21st century. We are in the second decade of the 21st century and there are not one, not two, but three Jungle Book movies on the horizon. And that means that it’s time to remind everyone that Rudyard Kipling was a piece of racist, imperialist trash.
     

    And, of course, we have The Jungle Book itself. The Jungle Book is just as drenched with racism and colonialism as anything else Kipling wrote on the subject. The thread running throughout the stories is that Mowgli is superior to the animals that raised him by virtue of being man, not beast. That’s a neat parallel to Britain and India. There’s a fun little story in The Second Jungle Book about a superstitious Indian village that worships a horrible old crocodile, only for a British man to blow it to pieces. Because they are more rational, you see.

    I’m not saying that Kipling should be censored, but I am saying that he cannot be presented without context. There are messages in The Jungle Book that are very hard to remove. Hell, Disney managed to add to the problems in the 1960s when it added a character called King Louie, who is widely seen as a racist caricature of black people. (Kipling’s book has monkeys, which are the worst of the animal lot, being incapable of having government and only able to mimic others without a decent culture of their own.)
     

    Kipling was guilty of noticing and propagating hatefacts.

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  60. @AMH
    Now all restaurants are Taco Bell.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIcE4OvnqAY

    Wrong thread. This is for the Brooks thread.

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  61. I almost feel like there is a movie ethic transition occurring right about now (its hard for me to say, because I don’t watch movies much any more). When I was a kid, I could identify with movies, and motivations, and people in them (even if I didn’t like the individual, the individual movie, the individuals in a conflict, or whatever).

    I can remember right about when Home Alone came out, that essentially every kid in every movie became a miniature adult-smarmy, ironic, always smarter or winning against the adults in the picture. I distinctly remember seeing an old movie (perhaps Alfred Hitchcock) with a 14 year old girl in it-the girl was precocious, and a bit sassy, but still distinctly a kid. That character, and that level of (lack of) sophistication in movie kids, at some time in the recent past, stopped existing*.

    And I feel like a similar change is occurring today. The racial and social politics in movies are very clearly different than they were just a short time ago, and they are ubiquitous. I can’t imagine a movie being made with the same social outlook that existed not that long ago. Looking at the movie poster for the Planet of the Apes movie, you can read the politics in the poster-and they are unattractive to me in every way.

    joe

    *I just checked. Stand by Me, which would qualify as a movie about kids reasonably kidlike, was 4 years before Home Alone.

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    I almost never watch movies except for action/adventure ones. If I wanted to hear preaching, I'd go to church. Current movies are the most moralizingly didactic stories we've had foisted on us since the Victorian Era.
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  62. Barnard says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    That's really Kaus in Idiocracy? What's the story behind that?

    It kind of looks like Mickey Kaus, but I think Steve is just joking. IMDB credits Danny Cochran who has a couple of other acting credits.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0168150/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t48

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    Thanks. Had me going there for a moment.
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  63. dr kill says:
    @Clyde

    Atomic Blond is another spy movie where the ultimate tough guy is a woman who makes Bourne look like a wimp.
     
    I never watch those woman_as_super_duper_hero_ movies moderna feminista garbooge. Only exception are the Resident Evil movies. I like Mila Jovich and she really exerts her tight tight self. Great action and weapons play. The most recent one was one of the best.

    Two words for you, my friend. Kate Beckinsale.

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    Three words for Ms Kate/ Tight tight tight (I know I am repeating myself) Best looking actress at her age and she knows it.
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  64. dr kill says:
    @Barnard
    Melinda Gates has been pushing family planning in Africa through the Gates Foundation for awhile now. She does it under the guise of female empowerment, but she seems to understand on some level a world with 4 billion Africans isn't a place anyone else would want to live.

    The stable she owns in Wellington FL would easily house several hundred. What’s she waiting for?

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  65. ChrisZ says:
    @syonredux

    The race angle I don’t remember being prominent in Planet of the Apes, though I wasn’t “woke” when I saw it. Conquest of the Planet of the Apes really rubbed your face in race, though. The original was more about the science versus religion thing and [spoiler alert] nuclear war.

     

    Dunno. The racial theme seems pretty strong to me. Western Civilization has fallen. Now, the apes rule. And the casting of Heston adds mythic weight to the tale.Heston, after all, had basically served as the cinematic incarnation of Western Civilization in the ’50s and ’60s. He was Moses, Michelangelo, Andrew Jackson (twice), Charles George Gordon, Mark Antony (twice), William Clark (of Lewis and Clark fame), John the Baptist, El Cid, etc.

    And the this icon of Western Will fails. PLANET OF THE APES was Tarzan in reverse (from “Lord of the Apes” to “Slave of the Apes?”). Instead of the Anglo hero achieving dominion over his inferiors (cf Heston’s snide crack after seeing the mute, apelike humans:”If this is the best they’ve got around here, in six months we’ll be running this planet.”), he is bested by them in this “madhouse” where apes rule over men.

    An excellent insight into Heston’s role in the original Planet of the Apes, Syon–both as the iconic Man of the West, and as an inversion of Tarzan (whose mode of dress he “apes” in the latter part of the film).

    In the same spirit, the Heston/Taylor character in Pierre Boulle’s original novel is named “Ulysses.”

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  66. MB says: • Website
    @MarcB.
    The Mummies - (You Must Fight To Live) On The Planet Of The Apes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyWK0qUfop4

    I’m waiting for the mash up between zombies, Planet and . . . Game of Thrones?
    Not that I have seen any of them.

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  67. DeBroglie says:

    DeRay is just mad that he lost the digital format wars to Blu-Ray.

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  68. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Much of Americans problems isn’t just about IQ but IQ depressants.

    A study showed that male IQ drops about 20 pts in presence of attractive women. It’s the Noir Femme Fatale Factor, or FFF. In these films, the more attractive and stylish a woman, the more easily she can manipulate even the most intelligent men. Men either go ‘dumb’ or ‘crazy’. Even the highly rational and intelligent guy in LAURA loses it. Scotty loses it too in Vertigo. Falls for the whole romantic myth thing even though he’s been a hard-nosed detective all his life. And Arthur trusts Guinevere. And the super-smart Jewish guy in CASINO gambles everything on the blonde shikse.
    Only Howard Roark in THE FOUNTAINHEAD is impervious to all that charm stuff. (But then, Ayn Rand herself fell for some young romantic charlatan who wooed her later in life. Fatal Attraction is like Mental Subtraction.)

    A combination of Guilt and Fear has similar IQ depressant effect on people, esp on whites.

    Indeed, the two are caught in a vicious cycle in the white mind. Whites are supposed to feel guilty over Slavery and ‘Jim Crow’. So, their skepticism weakens and they want to believe in the redemptive Negro as christ figure, like in To Kill a Mocking Bird.
    But in reality, lots of blacks are pathological or fearsome. This fear factor make wake whites up to reality, but they are so hung up on White Guilt that the fear makes them feel even more guilt. They are raised and conditioned by media and academia to worship the magic negro and cool bro, but in reality, many blacks are neither magical nor cool. Just idiotic and crazy… and tougher and nasty. While some people are ‘red-pilled’, the Holy Narrative of MLK and etc is so powerful that white fear of the Negro only makes whites feel even more guilty.
    It’s like the Stalinist Mental Trap. In the USSR, commissars were indoctrinated to love and trust Stalin. But Stalin was fearsome and even sent ‘innocent’ commissars to the Gulag. This led to fear of Stalin among the victims, but it also made them feel guilty for fearing Stalin, the infallible god of the revolution.

    So, this combination or vicious cycle of fear and guilt(fear feeding into more guilt) had a terribly depressing impact on white IQ. Even smart whites who are mentally dazzling about lots of things become near-retarded, dogmatic, and stupid on race issues pertaining to blacks. (If someone said Nepalese IQ is below average, no one would care.) So, the fear-guilt pill is like an IQ depressant.

    So, even though one might admire Obama’s brilliant manipulation of white psychology to become president, this somewhat misses the point. He would have a much harder time manipulating white psychology if not for the fear-guilt IQ-depressant factor. Because of this reason, even very smart whites turned into dummies in his presence.
    If Obama were white and had to deal with such people, their mental guards would have been up.
    But because of his race and style, their guards were way down.

    To white with fear-guilt factor, Obama seemed like The Answer. These whites feel noble for feeling this guilt and they want to be nice to Negroes. But many Negroes are not nice to them. Most black politicians have been like Jesse Jackson Sr and Jr and Queasy Assfume and Maxine Waters and Gus Savage and Al Sharpton. White Liberals had to hold their noses to deal with them. But Obama comes along and smiles and talks smart and acts ‘white’ or genteel-hip-negro.
    If Bill Clinton said “I feel your pain”, Obama’s shtick was “I understand your guilt.” So, here’s finally a Negro who appreciates ‘white guilt’ and want to reciprocate in kind by being ‘nice’.

    But why do even smart whites think and feel so dumb on the issue? Because of the fear-guilt complex and its depressant effect on IQ.

    Whites may be smarter than blacks on average, but whites in the PRESENCE of blacks(whether in person or images in the head) are dumber in the moment.

    Those who have blacks-in-the-mind but maintain their honest intelligence are attacked, like James Watson was. So, he had to play dumb to seek forgiveness.

    What Nice Negro does to white intelligence even among highly educated:

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  69. ChrisZ says:
    @syonredux

    I never understood why nobody raised an eyebrow at the racism in the Disney film of the Jungle Book.
     
    Dunno. SJWs have voiced their displeasure on quite a few occasions....


    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/apr/03/jungle-book-disney-remake-racism-worries


    http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/29/prof-disneys-jungle-book-was-racist-should-be-sanitized-for-remake/

    http://io9.gizmodo.com/reminder-rudyard-kipling-was-a-racist-fuck-and-the-jun-1771044121


    The io9 piece is particularly vitriolic:

    We are currently in the 21st century. We are in the second decade of the 21st century and there are not one, not two, but three Jungle Book movies on the horizon. And that means that it’s time to remind everyone that Rudyard Kipling was a piece of racist, imperialist trash.
     

    And, of course, we have The Jungle Book itself. The Jungle Book is just as drenched with racism and colonialism as anything else Kipling wrote on the subject. The thread running throughout the stories is that Mowgli is superior to the animals that raised him by virtue of being man, not beast. That’s a neat parallel to Britain and India. There’s a fun little story in The Second Jungle Book about a superstitious Indian village that worships a horrible old crocodile, only for a British man to blow it to pieces. Because they are more rational, you see.

    I’m not saying that Kipling should be censored, but I am saying that he cannot be presented without context. There are messages in The Jungle Book that are very hard to remove. Hell, Disney managed to add to the problems in the 1960s when it added a character called King Louie, who is widely seen as a racist caricature of black people. (Kipling’s book has monkeys, which are the worst of the animal lot, being incapable of having government and only able to mimic others without a decent culture of their own.)
     

    Thanks for sharing this, Syon. Nothing reveals the philistinism of the SJW crowd more than their attempts at “cultural criticism” — like this specimen on Kipling and the Jungle Books. They’re so certain in their indignation, so categorical in drawing their “bright lines”–”racist,” “colonialist,” etc.

    I read the Mowgli stories and marvel at the sheer imagination and literary technique deployed by Kipling. I suppose one can see them as imperialist parables, but only a fundamentalist would insist that that’s ALL they are.

    To me, those stories are more like a hymn to Man, and to the difference being human makes. That especially comes out at the end of “Mowgli’s Brothers,” when Mowgli says farewell to his animal companions. Kipling could have depicted Mowgli as a misplaced European (as Edgar Rice Burroughs would later do with Tarzan), but he chose instead to make him an Indian boy. He’s making the Aristotelean point that Man qua Man stands apart from the other animals. Old-time Liberals would find that a pleasing confirmation of human “universality”–but today’s SJWs are blind to everything except irreducible tribalism. As I wrote, they’re fundamentalists.

    It occurs to me that the opposite of Kipling’s Jungle Books would be Wells’ Island of Dr. Moreau, which argues that the human capacities are not so special after all: a dog is just a surgical operation away from being a man, and vice versa. Something of that argument lies behind the uncanniness of Planet of the Apes, as well.

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  70. Clyde says:
    @dr kill
    Two words for you, my friend. Kate Beckinsale.

    Three words for Ms Kate/ Tight tight tight (I know I am repeating myself) Best looking actress at her age and she knows it.

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  71. Clyde says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Atomic Blond is another spy movie where the ultimate tough guy is a woman who makes Bourne look like a wimp.
     
    I saw that preview too. The POZ is poured on pretty thick in that one. It looks like complete crap. It is based on a comic-book, of course.

    Avoid zombie movies, vampire movies and movies based on comic books.

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  72. Neoconned says:
    @Neil Templeton
    I'm guessin' the marginal return to this kind of effort is pretty thin by now. Maybe better to double down on the bad ape identity. Keep it real. Don't waste your talent chasin' butterflies. Don't throw it all on 22.

    Who cares about a movie franchise or us building the future.

    We wuz kangz!

    KANGZ!

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  73. syonredux says:
    @dearieme
    I never understood why nobody raised an eyebrow at the racism in the Disney film of the Jungle Book. Perhaps because it was one of the few Disney children's films that didn't provoke instant vomiting by adults (or the more discerning children)?

    Perhaps because it was one of the few Disney children’s films that didn’t provoke instant vomiting by adults (or the more discerning children)?

    When I was a kid, my favorite Disney film was their 1954 live-action adaptation of Verne’s 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. I really liked the proto-steampunk design of the Nautilus.

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  74. @syonredux

    The race angle I don’t remember being prominent in Planet of the Apes, though I wasn’t “woke” when I saw it. Conquest of the Planet of the Apes really rubbed your face in race, though. The original was more about the science versus religion thing and [spoiler alert] nuclear war.

     

    Dunno. The racial theme seems pretty strong to me. Western Civilization has fallen. Now, the apes rule. And the casting of Heston adds mythic weight to the tale.Heston, after all, had basically served as the cinematic incarnation of Western Civilization in the ’50s and ’60s. He was Moses, Michelangelo, Andrew Jackson (twice), Charles George Gordon, Mark Antony (twice), William Clark (of Lewis and Clark fame), John the Baptist, El Cid, etc.

    And the this icon of Western Will fails. PLANET OF THE APES was Tarzan in reverse (from “Lord of the Apes” to “Slave of the Apes?”). Instead of the Anglo hero achieving dominion over his inferiors (cf Heston’s snide crack after seeing the mute, apelike humans:”If this is the best they’ve got around here, in six months we’ll be running this planet.”), he is bested by them in this “madhouse” where apes rule over men.

    Don’t forget Omega Man,which was better than the Will Smith version.Omega Man was all about taking down THE MAN i.e. White Society.Listen to one of the scenes with Anthony Zerbe talking to the Black “brothas”.It’s loaded with anti-white anti america messages.And Charlie Heston is the only surviving White Man and his world.Just like what is really happening today.One day we will be in Omega Man,and there will be only a few of us left trying to keep America alive.

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  75. dearieme says:
    @syonredux

    I never understood why nobody raised an eyebrow at the racism in the Disney film of the Jungle Book.
     
    Dunno. SJWs have voiced their displeasure on quite a few occasions....


    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/apr/03/jungle-book-disney-remake-racism-worries


    http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/29/prof-disneys-jungle-book-was-racist-should-be-sanitized-for-remake/

    http://io9.gizmodo.com/reminder-rudyard-kipling-was-a-racist-fuck-and-the-jun-1771044121


    The io9 piece is particularly vitriolic:

    We are currently in the 21st century. We are in the second decade of the 21st century and there are not one, not two, but three Jungle Book movies on the horizon. And that means that it’s time to remind everyone that Rudyard Kipling was a piece of racist, imperialist trash.
     

    And, of course, we have The Jungle Book itself. The Jungle Book is just as drenched with racism and colonialism as anything else Kipling wrote on the subject. The thread running throughout the stories is that Mowgli is superior to the animals that raised him by virtue of being man, not beast. That’s a neat parallel to Britain and India. There’s a fun little story in The Second Jungle Book about a superstitious Indian village that worships a horrible old crocodile, only for a British man to blow it to pieces. Because they are more rational, you see.

    I’m not saying that Kipling should be censored, but I am saying that he cannot be presented without context. There are messages in The Jungle Book that are very hard to remove. Hell, Disney managed to add to the problems in the 1960s when it added a character called King Louie, who is widely seen as a racist caricature of black people. (Kipling’s book has monkeys, which are the worst of the animal lot, being incapable of having government and only able to mimic others without a decent culture of their own.)
     

    It was King Louie I had in mind. As a fan of Louis Armstrong – presumably the model Disney had in mind – I noticed the racism without being particularly perturbed by it. Armstrong was too great an artist for me to bother about darts from the home of saccharine.

    I’m also a fan of Louis Prima who voiced the part. Presumably he wasn’t much bothered either.

    You’ll forgive me, I hope, if I don’t spend time reading the views of stupid and malevolent people about Kipling, but thank you for drawing my attention to their existence.

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  76. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Barnard
    It kind of looks like Mickey Kaus, but I think Steve is just joking. IMDB credits Danny Cochran who has a couple of other acting credits.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0168150/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t48

    Thanks. Had me going there for a moment.

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  77. mobi says:
    @Anonym
    Normally I don’t watch new movies when they come out, but I do watch the trailers and damn if they aren’t in your face.

    The market for a good fashy movie must be huge... if you could get it distributed. There is minimal modern competition for it. The comedic opportunities are also ripe. So many holy cows!

    The market for a good fashy movie must be huge… if you could get it distributed. There is minimal modern competition for it. The comedic opportunities are also ripe. So many holy cows!

    Lord of the Rings?

    (Intentional or not, it was part of its success)

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  78. mobi says:

    I now think the blue vest is not a co-incidence. I’ll bet this is one of his favorite film franchises.

    He’s likely torn between fantasies of dominating his superiors, and self-loathing triggered by the obvious analogy.

    He seems messed up about a lot of things.

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  79. @syonredux

    I never understood why nobody raised an eyebrow at the racism in the Disney film of the Jungle Book.
     
    Dunno. SJWs have voiced their displeasure on quite a few occasions....


    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/apr/03/jungle-book-disney-remake-racism-worries


    http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/29/prof-disneys-jungle-book-was-racist-should-be-sanitized-for-remake/

    http://io9.gizmodo.com/reminder-rudyard-kipling-was-a-racist-fuck-and-the-jun-1771044121


    The io9 piece is particularly vitriolic:

    We are currently in the 21st century. We are in the second decade of the 21st century and there are not one, not two, but three Jungle Book movies on the horizon. And that means that it’s time to remind everyone that Rudyard Kipling was a piece of racist, imperialist trash.
     

    And, of course, we have The Jungle Book itself. The Jungle Book is just as drenched with racism and colonialism as anything else Kipling wrote on the subject. The thread running throughout the stories is that Mowgli is superior to the animals that raised him by virtue of being man, not beast. That’s a neat parallel to Britain and India. There’s a fun little story in The Second Jungle Book about a superstitious Indian village that worships a horrible old crocodile, only for a British man to blow it to pieces. Because they are more rational, you see.

    I’m not saying that Kipling should be censored, but I am saying that he cannot be presented without context. There are messages in The Jungle Book that are very hard to remove. Hell, Disney managed to add to the problems in the 1960s when it added a character called King Louie, who is widely seen as a racist caricature of black people. (Kipling’s book has monkeys, which are the worst of the animal lot, being incapable of having government and only able to mimic others without a decent culture of their own.)
     

    Disney’s King Louie is based on Louis Armstrong, one of the most beloved American entertainers of any race, but was voiced by professional Armstrong impersonator Louis Prima (an early “wigger”?)

    Interesting read here: http://theaporetic.com/?p=3186

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  80. whorefinder says: • Website
    @dearieme
    I never understood why nobody raised an eyebrow at the racism in the Disney film of the Jungle Book. Perhaps because it was one of the few Disney children's films that didn't provoke instant vomiting by adults (or the more discerning children)?

    Disney is pre-emptively SJW. It has kept Song of the South under lock-and-key, never releasing it on DVD. This is despite the fact that it was re-released in the 1980s into theaters. The Mouse House is quite adept at self-censorship; it even created a whole new production imprint for its non-G rated movies, just to keep its brand clean.

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  81. whoever says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman
    I can't say that I know very much about his work, but anyone who checks out owing the IRS $5 million is a hero in my book. They can have my planet-of-the-apes lawn statue when they repossess it from my cold dead estate sale.

    Get off my lawn, you dirty ape!


    (I'm doing 2 movie quotes at a time now to save the moderator some work.)

    Davis also married May Britt, which also makes him some kind of hero, too.

    May Britt Pictures

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  82. Jake says:
    @syonredux

    The race angle I don’t remember being prominent in Planet of the Apes, though I wasn’t “woke” when I saw it. Conquest of the Planet of the Apes really rubbed your face in race, though. The original was more about the science versus religion thing and [spoiler alert] nuclear war.

     

    Dunno. The racial theme seems pretty strong to me. Western Civilization has fallen. Now, the apes rule. And the casting of Heston adds mythic weight to the tale.Heston, after all, had basically served as the cinematic incarnation of Western Civilization in the ’50s and ’60s. He was Moses, Michelangelo, Andrew Jackson (twice), Charles George Gordon, Mark Antony (twice), William Clark (of Lewis and Clark fame), John the Baptist, El Cid, etc.

    And the this icon of Western Will fails. PLANET OF THE APES was Tarzan in reverse (from “Lord of the Apes” to “Slave of the Apes?”). Instead of the Anglo hero achieving dominion over his inferiors (cf Heston’s snide crack after seeing the mute, apelike humans:”If this is the best they’ve got around here, in six months we’ll be running this planet.”), he is bested by them in this “madhouse” where apes rule over men.

    The ending of the original novel makes it clear that the French author’s (Pierre Boulle) primary focus was evolution. I won’t give it away, as it is not part of the movie.

    But Americans made the movie very much about race, with apes as stand ins for non-whites. In this form, white man destroys civilization, and apes (non-whites) take over, and treat the surviving whites as slaves or lower animals.

    The fun thing to discuss today along those lines is that the white Elites are destroying civilization, by romanticizing and petting non-whites. In subsequent films, humans making spoiled brat pets of apes is what leads to the ape rebellion that makes slaves of humans.

    In these movies, you are supposed to cheer for the apes, and then act culturally and politically to make at least serfs of most whites.

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  83. MEH 0910 says:
    @Olorin
    Cripes, what a tease you are.

    Read through your whole comment to find out what the URL promises--"what happens to gorillas on the pill."

    Nuthin. Harumph.

    If you want something a little more salacious, the effect on an alpha male Caribbean monkey of having all his hoes on contraception is pretty cray cray.

    http://prolife365.com/birth-control-study/

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  84. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @joeyjoejoe
    I almost feel like there is a movie ethic transition occurring right about now (its hard for me to say, because I don't watch movies much any more). When I was a kid, I could identify with movies, and motivations, and people in them (even if I didn't like the individual, the individual movie, the individuals in a conflict, or whatever).

    I can remember right about when Home Alone came out, that essentially every kid in every movie became a miniature adult-smarmy, ironic, always smarter or winning against the adults in the picture. I distinctly remember seeing an old movie (perhaps Alfred Hitchcock) with a 14 year old girl in it-the girl was precocious, and a bit sassy, but still distinctly a kid. That character, and that level of (lack of) sophistication in movie kids, at some time in the recent past, stopped existing*.

    And I feel like a similar change is occurring today. The racial and social politics in movies are very clearly different than they were just a short time ago, and they are ubiquitous. I can't imagine a movie being made with the same social outlook that existed not that long ago. Looking at the movie poster for the Planet of the Apes movie, you can read the politics in the poster-and they are unattractive to me in every way.

    joe

    *I just checked. Stand by Me, which would qualify as a movie about kids reasonably kidlike, was 4 years before Home Alone.

    I almost never watch movies except for action/adventure ones. If I wanted to hear preaching, I’d go to church. Current movies are the most moralizingly didactic stories we’ve had foisted on us since the Victorian Era.

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  85. Forgive my being peevish with dullards who cannot write twice today, but I weary of the now metastasized ignorance of the word random‘s meaning. It is not a sophisitcated or rare word!

    As best I can tell, everyone under forty now shares the mass delusion that random is a synonym of spontaneous or unprompted. In trying to think what it could mean to “randomly” praise Taco Bell, I can only imagine a man one moment raving about it’s delicious food, the next about how attractive the staff are, and a moment later lauding its excellent selection of a logo…but even that idea isn’t quite an accurate use of the term randomly (which is actually a term to do with statistics and selection, not even with things’ necessarily being dissimilar or unrelated…perhaps if the raver had a selection of compliments written on tiny notes in a hat, and he selected them blindly then read them, we could perhaps say he were raving randomly…).

    I also note that Negros do resemble apes – especially gorillas – much more than other races do, moat particularly because of their prognathism, large lips, and of course their dark skin. That Negros are offended by that similarity says more about their own insecurities than it daoes anything about an observer who notices the resemblence.

    Mitch McConnell looks more like a turtle than most people do; no one who notices it necessarily does so from animosity to him, racially motivated or otherwise. We similarly speak of some persons as rat-faced or porcine; a stout man with pronounced jowls like Winston Churchill may call to mind a bulldog…it simply is true that humans can favour this or that animal.

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    Autochthon, you're not the only one who noticed this random use of the word "random" - a friend of mine finds it a problem too. Anyway, statisticians and cryptologists the world over thank you for this.

    As to McConnell, I'd say he looks like a turtle just because he's another traitorous bastard that acts like he's on our team but is not. He looks more like a turtle than a lot of tortoises and tortugas do, but I'd call him any other name too if I knew it would piss him off.
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  86. @YetAnotherAnon
    Still waiting for someone to produce Triumph Of The Willy, maybe it doesn't have the same meaning in the US.

    I hear there’s a German adaptation out now: Monkey See, Men Doo.

    (Thanks; I’m here all week. Please remember to donate to the host.)

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  87. @White Guy In Japan
    "In contrast, Sammy Davis Jr. thought the 1968 original Planet of the Apes was the best race metaphor movie ever."

    I knew a man who was in a California prison and watched the original with other inmates. Whenever the apes would get over on the humans, all the Black inmates would cheer and stamp their feet. When the humans won a round, the White and Hispanic inmates would cheer and yell.

    Things got so heated the guards had to come in and settle everyone down.

    I would love to tell this story to every one of my old professors in San Francisco.

    It was more granular than that:among the apes (more or less), the gorillas represent Negros (violent and bloodthirsty savages); the orangutans Orientals (meek, unreflective, and pursuing science and knowledge almost robitically); and the chimpanzees Europeans (intelligent, insightful, and humane).

    The mestizoids (whom I presume you designate as Hispanics; Hispanics of course can be as white as Penelope Cruz or as mestizoid or even Amerindian as George Lopez…) did not rate a representative race. Perhaps Mr. Boulle might have added gibbons to give the mestizoids a voice, but of course then the Hindoos or the Australian aboriginals would only complain. There is no pleasing everyone. Still, it would have been neat warching gibbons with pot bellies wearing stained tank tops, doing all the menial labour, and riding around on their horses drunkenly, refusing to learn and speak the common tongue used by all the other sentient apes…I bet they’d have had the shiniest rims on their carriages, too….

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    It was more granular than that:among the apes (more or less), the gorillas represent Negros (violent and bloodthirsty savages); the orangutans Orientals (meek, unreflective, and pursuing science and knowledge almost robitically); and the chimpanzees Europeans (intelligent, insightful, and humane).
     
    I've attended seminars where speakers have decried the "colorism" in the original Planet of the Apes series. They like to dilate on how the dark-skinned gorillas are depicted as more savage and bloodthirsty than the lighter-skinned chimps and orangutans.

    And then there's Steve's theory:

    In the first Planet of the Apes, Charlton Heston, the ultimate white man, is thrown into a world where monkeys are the Man and he is reduced to the status of an angry black radical. In Rod Serling’s screenplay, gorillas are the Irish cops, orangutans the conservative WASP ruling class, and chimpanzees the liberal Jewish intellectuals who are Heston’s only hope.

    Heston famously noticed:

    … an instinctive segregation on the set. Not only would the apes eat together, but the chimpanzees ate with the chimpanzees, the gorillas ate with the gorillas, the orangutans ate with the orangutans, and the humans would eat off by themselves. It was quite spooky.

    In Serling’s vision, these ethnic rivalries could undermine the ruling caste.

     

    http://takimag.com/article/every_ape_for_himself_steve_sailer/page_2#axzz4matm4Siw
    , @Brutusale
    But then you'd have the movie constantly interrupted with gorillas and gibbons doing ride-byes over the shiny rims!
    , @TelfoedJohn

    among the apes (more or less), the gorillas represent Negros (violent and bloodthirsty savages); the orangutans Orientals (meek, unreflective, and pursuing science and knowledge almost robitically); and the chimpanzees Europeans (intelligent, insightful, and humane).
     
    The same categorisation is used in Will Self's 'Great Apes' book. Intuitively, it seems to fit.
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  88. @syonredux

    I never understood why nobody raised an eyebrow at the racism in the Disney film of the Jungle Book.
     
    Dunno. SJWs have voiced their displeasure on quite a few occasions....


    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/apr/03/jungle-book-disney-remake-racism-worries


    http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/29/prof-disneys-jungle-book-was-racist-should-be-sanitized-for-remake/

    http://io9.gizmodo.com/reminder-rudyard-kipling-was-a-racist-fuck-and-the-jun-1771044121


    The io9 piece is particularly vitriolic:

    We are currently in the 21st century. We are in the second decade of the 21st century and there are not one, not two, but three Jungle Book movies on the horizon. And that means that it’s time to remind everyone that Rudyard Kipling was a piece of racist, imperialist trash.
     

    And, of course, we have The Jungle Book itself. The Jungle Book is just as drenched with racism and colonialism as anything else Kipling wrote on the subject. The thread running throughout the stories is that Mowgli is superior to the animals that raised him by virtue of being man, not beast. That’s a neat parallel to Britain and India. There’s a fun little story in The Second Jungle Book about a superstitious Indian village that worships a horrible old crocodile, only for a British man to blow it to pieces. Because they are more rational, you see.

    I’m not saying that Kipling should be censored, but I am saying that he cannot be presented without context. There are messages in The Jungle Book that are very hard to remove. Hell, Disney managed to add to the problems in the 1960s when it added a character called King Louie, who is widely seen as a racist caricature of black people. (Kipling’s book has monkeys, which are the worst of the animal lot, being incapable of having government and only able to mimic others without a decent culture of their own.)
     

    Mowgli is superior to the animals that raised him by virtue of being man, not beast.

    This is universally accepted in a very meaningful way. It’s why we eat cows and not humans; it’s why we put crippled humans in wheelchairs but shoot crippled horses (to cite but two examples).

    That’s a neat parallel to Britain and India.

    By any objective measure, Britain is (or was until very recently; the Indians at least aren’t committing genetic suicide…) observably superiour to India: science, technology, music, art, literature, industry, navigation….

    [A] superstitious Indian village…worships a horrible old crocodile, only for a British man to blow it to pieces. Because they are more rational, you see.

    Much could be written, so I shall just point out that to this day Indians bathe in toxic rivers and many drink their own urine to obtain perceived spirtual and medicinal benefits; the British ended the practice of sutee in India, and, effectively ended trade in slaves worldwide (via their uncontested maritime might).

    [The king of the Bandar-log invented by Disney for his cinematic adaptation is a] racist caricature of black people. (Kipling’s book has monkeys, which are the worst of the animal lot, being incapable of having government and only able to mimic others without a decent culture of their own.)

    I’ll just leave this right here.

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    https://twitter.com/deray/status/666355080342319104

    He HAS to be getting something out of Taco Bell.

    How can any one man post 3-4 random Taco Bell related tweets like that? If he threw in one Chipotle tweet for balance, it would create some believability.

    Somebody needs to get to the bottom of this. It’s just odd.

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  91. syonredux says:
    @Autochthon
    It was more granular than that:among the apes (more or less), the gorillas represent Negros (violent and bloodthirsty savages); the orangutans Orientals (meek, unreflective, and pursuing science and knowledge almost robitically); and the chimpanzees Europeans (intelligent, insightful, and humane).

    The mestizoids (whom I presume you designate as Hispanics; Hispanics of course can be as white as Penelope Cruz or as mestizoid or even Amerindian as George Lopez...) did not rate a representative race. Perhaps Mr. Boulle might have added gibbons to give the mestizoids a voice, but of course then the Hindoos or the Australian aboriginals would only complain. There is no pleasing everyone. Still, it would have been neat warching gibbons with pot bellies wearing stained tank tops, doing all the menial labour, and riding around on their horses drunkenly, refusing to learn and speak the common tongue used by all the other sentient apes...I bet they'd have had the shiniest rims on their carriages, too....

    It was more granular than that:among the apes (more or less), the gorillas represent Negros (violent and bloodthirsty savages); the orangutans Orientals (meek, unreflective, and pursuing science and knowledge almost robitically); and the chimpanzees Europeans (intelligent, insightful, and humane).

    I’ve attended seminars where speakers have decried the “colorism” in the original Planet of the Apes series. They like to dilate on how the dark-skinned gorillas are depicted as more savage and bloodthirsty than the lighter-skinned chimps and orangutans.

    And then there’s Steve’s theory:

    In the first Planet of the Apes, Charlton Heston, the ultimate white man, is thrown into a world where monkeys are the Man and he is reduced to the status of an angry black radical. In Rod Serling’s screenplay, gorillas are the Irish cops, orangutans the conservative WASP ruling class, and chimpanzees the liberal Jewish intellectuals who are Heston’s only hope.

    Heston famously noticed:

    … an instinctive segregation on the set. Not only would the apes eat together, but the chimpanzees ate with the chimpanzees, the gorillas ate with the gorillas, the orangutans ate with the orangutans, and the humans would eat off by themselves. It was quite spooky.

    In Serling’s vision, these ethnic rivalries could undermine the ruling caste.

    http://takimag.com/article/every_ape_for_himself_steve_sailer/page_2#axzz4matm4Siw

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    Jews the only hope of a man as noble as Charleton Heston (or even his character, Taylor)? Ha! Jews lack an iota of altruism or self-awareness.

    I'm disussing a novel, by the way, for which I fault myself. I'm constantly discussing novels around here and talkin past people discussing (usually terrible) cinematic adaptations thereof; often the other people seem unfamiliar at all with the novels. The phenomenon also implicates films as an art in their own right: Paul Thomas Anderson's Magnolia is a stunning work of cinematic genius; he is a film-maker (despite being guilty of the occassional adaptation himself, as with Oil!); most film-makers nowadays lack creativity, so all they do is bastardise literature.
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  92. @Autochthon
    Forgive my being peevish with dullards who cannot write twice today, but I weary of the now metastasized ignorance of the word random's meaning. It is not a sophisitcated or rare word!

    As best I can tell, everyone under forty now shares the mass delusion that random is a synonym of spontaneous or unprompted. In trying to think what it could mean to "randomly" praise Taco Bell, I can only imagine a man one moment raving about it's delicious food, the next about how attractive the staff are, and a moment later lauding its excellent selection of a logo...but even that idea isn't quite an accurate use of the term randomly (which is actually a term to do with statistics and selection, not even with things' necessarily being dissimilar or unrelated...perhaps if the raver had a selection of compliments written on tiny notes in a hat, and he selected them blindly then read them, we could perhaps say he were raving randomly...).

    I also note that Negros do resemble apes – especially gorillas – much more than other races do, moat particularly because of their prognathism, large lips, and of course their dark skin. That Negros are offended by that similarity says more about their own insecurities than it daoes anything about an observer who notices the resemblence.

    Mitch McConnell looks more like a turtle than most people do; no one who notices it necessarily does so from animosity to him, racially motivated or otherwise. We similarly speak of some persons as rat-faced or porcine; a stout man with pronounced jowls like Winston Churchill may call to mind a bulldog...it simply is true that humans can favour this or that animal.

    Autochthon, you’re not the only one who noticed this random use of the word “random” – a friend of mine finds it a problem too. Anyway, statisticians and cryptologists the world over thank you for this.

    As to McConnell, I’d say he looks like a turtle just because he’s another traitorous bastard that acts like he’s on our team but is not. He looks more like a turtle than a lot of tortoises and tortugas do, but I’d call him any other name too if I knew it would piss him off.

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  93. Brutusale says:
    @Autochthon
    It was more granular than that:among the apes (more or less), the gorillas represent Negros (violent and bloodthirsty savages); the orangutans Orientals (meek, unreflective, and pursuing science and knowledge almost robitically); and the chimpanzees Europeans (intelligent, insightful, and humane).

    The mestizoids (whom I presume you designate as Hispanics; Hispanics of course can be as white as Penelope Cruz or as mestizoid or even Amerindian as George Lopez...) did not rate a representative race. Perhaps Mr. Boulle might have added gibbons to give the mestizoids a voice, but of course then the Hindoos or the Australian aboriginals would only complain. There is no pleasing everyone. Still, it would have been neat warching gibbons with pot bellies wearing stained tank tops, doing all the menial labour, and riding around on their horses drunkenly, refusing to learn and speak the common tongue used by all the other sentient apes...I bet they'd have had the shiniest rims on their carriages, too....

    But then you’d have the movie constantly interrupted with gorillas and gibbons doing ride-byes over the shiny rims!

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  94. MEH 0910 says:

    OT: Quentin Tarantino Prepping New Movie Tackling Manson Murders (Exclusive)

    If the Manson-Tate project does become Tarantino’s next film, it becomes unique in that it will be his first movie to be based on true events. Tarantino has molded his career into taking his favorite genres such as crime, Westerns and blaxploitation and elevating them to A-list status while also paying homage to them.

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    Sounds tasteful.
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  95. @syonredux

    It was more granular than that:among the apes (more or less), the gorillas represent Negros (violent and bloodthirsty savages); the orangutans Orientals (meek, unreflective, and pursuing science and knowledge almost robitically); and the chimpanzees Europeans (intelligent, insightful, and humane).
     
    I've attended seminars where speakers have decried the "colorism" in the original Planet of the Apes series. They like to dilate on how the dark-skinned gorillas are depicted as more savage and bloodthirsty than the lighter-skinned chimps and orangutans.

    And then there's Steve's theory:

    In the first Planet of the Apes, Charlton Heston, the ultimate white man, is thrown into a world where monkeys are the Man and he is reduced to the status of an angry black radical. In Rod Serling’s screenplay, gorillas are the Irish cops, orangutans the conservative WASP ruling class, and chimpanzees the liberal Jewish intellectuals who are Heston’s only hope.

    Heston famously noticed:

    … an instinctive segregation on the set. Not only would the apes eat together, but the chimpanzees ate with the chimpanzees, the gorillas ate with the gorillas, the orangutans ate with the orangutans, and the humans would eat off by themselves. It was quite spooky.

    In Serling’s vision, these ethnic rivalries could undermine the ruling caste.

     

    http://takimag.com/article/every_ape_for_himself_steve_sailer/page_2#axzz4matm4Siw

    Jews the only hope of a man as noble as Charleton Heston (or even his character, Taylor)? Ha! Jews lack an iota of altruism or self-awareness.

    I’m disussing a novel, by the way, for which I fault myself. I’m constantly discussing novels around here and talkin past people discussing (usually terrible) cinematic adaptations thereof; often the other people seem unfamiliar at all with the novels. The phenomenon also implicates films as an art in their own right: Paul Thomas Anderson’s Magnolia is a stunning work of cinematic genius; he is a film-maker (despite being guilty of the occassional adaptation himself, as with Oil!); most film-makers nowadays lack creativity, so all they do is bastardise literature.

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  96. @MEH 0910
    OT: Quentin Tarantino Prepping New Movie Tackling Manson Murders (Exclusive)

    If the Manson-Tate project does become Tarantino’s next film, it becomes unique in that it will be his first movie to be based on true events. Tarantino has molded his career into taking his favorite genres such as crime, Westerns and blaxploitation and elevating them to A-list status while also paying homage to them.
     

    Sounds tasteful.

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  97. @Autochthon
    It was more granular than that:among the apes (more or less), the gorillas represent Negros (violent and bloodthirsty savages); the orangutans Orientals (meek, unreflective, and pursuing science and knowledge almost robitically); and the chimpanzees Europeans (intelligent, insightful, and humane).

    The mestizoids (whom I presume you designate as Hispanics; Hispanics of course can be as white as Penelope Cruz or as mestizoid or even Amerindian as George Lopez...) did not rate a representative race. Perhaps Mr. Boulle might have added gibbons to give the mestizoids a voice, but of course then the Hindoos or the Australian aboriginals would only complain. There is no pleasing everyone. Still, it would have been neat warching gibbons with pot bellies wearing stained tank tops, doing all the menial labour, and riding around on their horses drunkenly, refusing to learn and speak the common tongue used by all the other sentient apes...I bet they'd have had the shiniest rims on their carriages, too....

    among the apes (more or less), the gorillas represent Negros (violent and bloodthirsty savages); the orangutans Orientals (meek, unreflective, and pursuing science and knowledge almost robitically); and the chimpanzees Europeans (intelligent, insightful, and humane).

    The same categorisation is used in Will Self’s ‘Great Apes’ book. Intuitively, it seems to fit.

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  98. Full Tilt says:

    DeRay’s tweet was obviously a joke, a gay man would never mistake the midnight blue on the toy for the Carolina blue of his own vest.

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