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From a New York Times Opinion columnist:

Dare We Dream of the End of the G.O.P.?

In a new book, the pollster Stanley Greenberg predicts a blue tidal wave in 2020.

By Michelle Goldberg, Opinion Columnist, Sept. 6, 2019

Toward the end of his new book, “R.I.P. G.O.P.,” the renowned Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg makes a thrilling prediction, delivered with the certainty of prophecy. “The year 2020 will produce a second blue wave on at least the scale of the first in 2018 and finally will crash and shatter the Republican Party that was consumed by the ill-begotten battle to stop the New America from governing,” he writes.

It sounds almost messianic: the Republican Party, that foul agglomeration of bigotry and avarice that has turned American politics into a dystopian farce, not just defeated but destroyed. The inexorable force of demography bringing us a new, enlightened political dispensation. Greenberg foresees “the death of the Republican Party as we’ve known it,” and a Democratic Party “liberated from the nation’s suffocating polarization to use government to advance the public good.” I’d like to believe it, and maybe you would too. But should we?

This is not the first time that experts have predicted the inevitable triumph of progressive politics. Seventeen years ago, John Judis and Ruy Teixeira published “The Emerging Democratic Majority,” which argued that the country was on the cusp of a liberal political realignment driven by growing diversity, urbanization and gender equality….

There’s a fascinating tension in “R.I.P. G.O.P.” Greenberg is scathing about the failures of the Hillary Clinton campaign, accusing it of “malpractice.” Yet he believes that at least some of the political assumptions that were mistaken in 2016 will be sound in 2020.

Greenberg suggests that Clinton erred by focusing too much on multiculturalism at the expense of class, and by trying to discredit Donald Trump as a vulgarian rather than a plutocrat. As Clinton wrote in “What Happened,” her post mortem of her shattering loss, Greenberg “thought my campaign was too upbeat on the economy, too liberal on immigration, and not vocal enough about trade.”

Yet going into 2020, Greenberg believes that what he calls the “rising American electorate” — including millennials, people of color and single women — will ensure Democratic victory, almost regardless of whom the party nominates.

… A few months after the election, he realized he could no longer put Clinton and Trump voters in focus groups together because indignant Clinton voters, particularly women, so dominated the conversations. …

That resolve to resist has led many voters to define their own beliefs in opposition to Trump’s. On immigration, for example, “every Trump outrage increased the proportion of Americans who said, ‘We are an immigrant country,’” writes Greenberg. Indeed, according to recent Pew data, 62 percent of Americans say that immigrants strengthen the country, while 28 percent, a near record low, see them as a burden.

Yet rather than modulating their anti-immigrant politics in response, Republicans have little choice but to double down, because so many of their voters are driven by nativism. In this way, Greenberg sees an omen for the Republican Party in California. It’s hard to remember now, but the state was once the heartland of conservatism, nurturing the political careers of Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. From 1968 to 1988, it voted Republican in every presidential election, and regularly elected Republican governors.

But in 1994, California Republicans, fearful of changing demography, campaigned for Proposition 187, a ballot initiative meant to make life miserable for undocumented immigrants. It won — though courts blocked its implementation — but it also turned expanding constituencies in California against Republicans. Today the party has been reduced to an irrelevant rump faction in state politics.

Wasn’t there a Presidential election between 1988 and 1994?

Oh, yeah, in 1992, pro-immigration Republican incumbent George H.W. Bush lost in California to Bill Clinton by 13.6 points. It’s almost as the GOP was doomed in California before Proposition 187. But assuming that time flows in only one direction is racist.

So who cares about some technicalities of which event came before which other event? The point is that the GOP is Bad and therefore deserved what immigration did to them.

The specter of California haunts the modern right; many conservatives see it as a portent of what demographic change will do to Republican power nationally. But California can just as easily be seen as a sign of how a political party can drive itself to ruin by making a cruel, doomed stand against the coming generation.

It’s easy to see that if you control The Megaphone and keep blaming Proposition 187 in 1994 for what had happened already in 1992.

… His confidence will not be enough to lessen the insomnia that has plagued me since the cursed night when Trump was elected. But his book should be a corrective to the media’s overweening focus on the mulish devotion of Trump voters. Trump hatred is a much more potent force in this country than Trump love.

I.e.: Hate trumps Trump.

There is one way, and one way only, that Trump may surpass Barack Obama. Though Obama was a community organizer, Trump could turn out to be much better at mobilizing progressives. ….

Michelle Goldberg has been an Opinion columnist since 2017. She is the author of several books about politics, religion and women’s rights, and was part of a team that won a Pulitzer Prize for public service in 2018 for reporting on workplace sexual harassment issues. @michelleinbklyn

Nothing shows the New York Times’ Commitment to Diversity more than its hiring @MichelleInBklyn, because she’s so incredibly different from all the other progressive feminist insomniac Trump-hating women journalists in Brooklyn.

 
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  1. this is a great example of circular reasoning.
    the GOP is evil and its good that its voters are being dispossessed. The reason? They object to being dispossessed and therefor are bigots!
    Of course if you post on here you understand what its motivated by…

  2. dare we dream of the end of goyims?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  3. BB753 says:

    “A few months after the election, he realized he could no longer put Clinton and Trump voters in focus groups together because indignant Clinton voters, particularly women, so dominated the conversations. …”

    LOL! Although I’m a pessimist, I predict Trump will win again in 2020. But he will be the last Republican POTUS.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
  4. Whute American goys. The new Palestinians.

  5. Wow. She can really hate. Maybe we should have a national competition. Call it the US Open of Hate.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  6. 1992 was an outlier election because of Perot. I still think he was put in there by certain, uh, forces because Bush 41 told Israel to go to hell on some loan guarantees.

    • Replies: @Hans
  7. Does it ever occur to them that the GOP could live on even when Whites become a minority? Can they not imagine an American Bolsonaro leading a much nastier and thuggish Republican Party?

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Dave Pinsen
  8. The Prop 187 myth is an urban legend that will never die. It also omits that Republican with the funny accent who was elected governor in the 2000s.

    The bottom line is that Calfornia has simply become massively non-white. And as the anti-white party, the Democrats naturally reaped the benefit.

    • Replies: @anonn
    , @anon19
  9. …she’s so incredibly different from all the other progressive feminist insomniac Trump-hating women journalists in [the white sectors of gentrifying] Brooklyn.

    Ed Norton fixed it for you.

    Are there any real Brooklynites left in Brooklyn? Or did they all follow the Dodgers?

  10. Corn says:

    I’m reminded of Br’er Rabbit.

    If Democrats say we need to be nicer to immigrants to win, we better double down against immigration.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  11. Do the Democrats think absent the Republicans, there will be no opposition to anything they do (including from their own)?

  12. Demographic Doom for the GOP?

    Pretty much.

  13. . . . progressive . . . feminist . . . insomniac . . . Trump-hating . . . women . . . journalists . . . in Brooklyn.

    For a Progressive, to have a multiplicity of facets is the definition of being “diverse.” Notwithstanding that it’s the same multiplicity of the same facets as all her friends. They are “diverse” together. That’s the best part of being Progressive.

  14. ‘…It sounds almost messianic: the Republican Party, that foul agglomeration of bigotry and avarice that has turned American politics into a dystopian farce, not just defeated but destroyed…'[

  15. Daniel H says:

    ….the Republican Party, that foul agglomeration of bigotry and avarice that has turned American politics into a dystopian farce, not just defeated but destroyed

    Real equanimous that Michelle.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Kronos
    , @newrouter
  16. ‘…It sounds almost messianic: the Republican Party, that foul agglomeration of bigotry and avarice that has turned American politics into a dystopian farce, not just defeated but destroyed…’

    It sounds to me like someone is declaring a race war — with me as the target.

    It wasn’t my choice, but oh, alright…

    We can fight it.

    • Replies: @bigdicknick
    , @Hunsdon
  17. fnn says:

    Maybe anti-Religious Right sentiment finally caught up withe the CA GOP in 1992. Also, there was something about the post-Cold War collapse of the aerospace industry.

  18. What happens, say 20 years from now, when the “non-white majority” decides Jews have too much power?

  19. Anonymous[228] • Disclaimer says:

    Toward the end of his new book, “R.I.P. G.O.P.,” the renowned Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg makes a thrilling prediction… the Republican Party, that foul agglomeration of bigotry and avarice that has turned American politics into a dystopian farce, not just defeated but destroyed.

    You ain’t shitting Jewess. The demographic which is been the biggest ass-kisser of the Jews and Israel is going down fast. And I’m sure their replacements will be as malleable and obsequious, and will beg for more Shoah exhibits in their schools and libraries. 🤣🤣

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    , @Dani
  20. Daniel H says:

    Ha, ha. Careful what you wish for Michelle. There are many among us who are giddy with delight over the prospect of the death of the GOP. The GOP is just a bunch of traitorous Cucks, worse than useless. They are the enemy. They are on YOUR side, but you are too dim to notice. What, with you being all hot and bothered over the sex issues.

    Who knows what political force will rise in the wake of the GOP, but many on the right are determined to have things our way, or do our damnedest to make certain that you and your ilk, along with the cucks, get nothing out of this once fine country.

    The 21st century is going to be a blast.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  21. OFF TOPIC from The Atlantic

    It’s Time for Black Athletes to Leave White Colleges

    They attract money and attention to the predominantly white universities that showcase them, while HBCUs struggle. What would happen if they collectively decided to go to black schools?

    by Jemele Hill

    In the summer of 2018 Kayvon Thibodeaux, who was then ranked as the top high-school football player in America, visited Florida A&M University, in Tallahassee. When a player of Thibodeaux’s caliber visits a perennial football power—say, Alabama—it’s called Wednesday. But when he visits a historically black college or university (HBCU) like Florida A&M, it threatens to crack the foundation on which the moneymaking edifice of college sports rests.

    “I really just wanted to learn the history of FAMU,” Thibodeaux, a defensive end who received a scholarship offer from the school after his freshman year in high school, told me. “And I wanted to show there were more opportunities out there than just big-time Division I schools.”

    Ultimately, and perhaps inevitably, Thibodeaux announced that he was going to one of the top football programs in the country, the University of Oregon. “Nobody wants to eat McDonald’s when you can get filet mignon” is how Thibodeaux put it. But over the course of the five months between his visit to FAMU and his decision to enroll at Oregon, Thibodeaux—who gushed about the historically black university on social media—galvanized alumni and boosted national awareness of the institution. It was a moment of hope for HBCUs, and it should have been a moment of fear for the predominantly white institutions whose collective multibillion-dollar revenues have been built largely on the exertions of (uncompensated) black athletes.

    In a country where the racial wealth gap remains enormous—the median white household has nearly 10 times the wealth of the median black household, and the rate of white homeownership is about 70 percent higher than that of black homeownership—institutions that nurture a black middle class are crucial. And when these institutions are healthy, they bring economic development to the black neighborhoods that surround them.

    Moreover, some black students feel safer, both physically and emotionally, on an HBCU campus—all the more so as racial tensions have risen in recent years. Navigating a predominantly white campus as a black student can feel isolating, even for athletes. Davon Dillard is a basketball player who transferred to Shaw University after Oklahoma State dismissed him for disciplinary reasons. “Going to a school where most of the people are the same color as you, it’s almost like you can let your guard down a little bit,” he told me. “You don’t have to pretend to be somebody else. You don’t have to dress this way, or do things this way. It’s like, ‘I know you. We have the same kind of struggles. We can relate.’ It’s almost like you’re back at home in your neighborhood.” Perhaps partly for this reason, black students’ graduation rates at HBCUs are notably higher than black students’ at other colleges when controlling for factors such as income and high-school success.

    Bringing elite athletic talent back to black colleges would have potent downstream effects. It would boost HBCU revenues and endowments; stimulate the economy of the black communities in which many of these schools are embedded; amplify the power of black coaches, who are often excluded from prominent positions at predominantly white institutions; and bring the benefits of black labor back to black people. In the general culture, prominent figures such as Beyoncé, LeBron James, and the recently slain rapper Nipsey Hussle have argued that African Americans should be using their talents not just to enrich themselves but to help strengthen and empower black communities. “Gentrify your own hood before these people do it,” Jay-Z rapped at the concert that reopened Webster Hall in New York City in April. “Claim eminent domain and have your people move in.”

    If promising black student athletes chose to attend HBCUs in greater numbers, they would, at a minimum, bring some welcome attention and money to beleaguered black colleges, which invested in black people when there was no athletic profit to reap. More revolutionarily, perhaps they could disrupt the reign of an “amateur” sports system that uses the labor of black folks to make white folks rich.

    This article appears in the October 2019 print edition with the headline “Why Black Athletes Should Leave White Colleges.”

    🙂

  22. … A few months after the election, he realized he could no longer put Clinton and Trump voters in focus groups together because indignant Clinton voters, particularly women, so dominated the conversations. …

    Don’t indignant Clinton viragos dominate all ‘conversations?’

    It’s called ‘catsplaining.’

  23. Tiny Duck really ought to apply for a staff writing position with The New York Times. He makes all the points that Michelle Goldberg makes, but does so more succinctly and entertainly. a competent editor could clean up the grammar and punctuation.

    This is assuming that Tiny isn’t already writing for The New York Times.

  24. It sounds almost messianic: the Republican Party, that foul agglomeration of bigotry and avarice that has turned American politics into a dystopian farce, not just defeated but destroyed. The inexorable force of demography bringing us a new, enlightened political dispensation. Greenberg foresees “the death of the Republican Party as we’ve known it,” and a Democratic Party “liberated from the nation’s suffocating polarization to use government to advance the public good.” I’d like to believe it, and maybe you would too. But should we?

    Bald-faced bigotry.

    The 62 million people who voted for the Bad Man and his political party in 2016? They’ll be destroyed.

    Just swamp the demographically swamp the Bad People and all polarization in politics will end and the lights will never go out again, the trash will finally get picked up with regularity, and we’ll have free health paid for by Somebody Else. Just replace the Deplorables with colorful Good People from all over the world, preferably countries like Somalia and Pakistan which are known for everyone getting along and having highly efficient governments, and all of our problems will be solved.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  25. While muh demographics are making it harder for the GOP to win, it’s not the whole story.

    The GOP has a totally unappealing policy platform, and most GOP politicians are unlikeable at best.

    There are still more than enough White people that by winning the White vote the GOP could comfortably win elections for the foreseeable future.

    GOP has not offered much, and what they have offered, they’ve failed to deliver on.

    Muh demographics is a cop out. GOP is operated as a grift first and foremost and distant second it is operated to advance certain “principles” that do not benefit regular people. Donor money can only take you so far, if you’re not smart enough to figure out how to pay people to vote.

  26. newrouter says:

    A question for the California crowd: Is lbgwerty thing big with “Hispanics”?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  27. Anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:

    Saw it trending at Foxnews.com, was going to email it in, since M. Goldberg has grown into quite the lolcow around here. In fairness her Times output has a quality that cannot be described otherwise than “pornographically liberal.” Oh well, how about this local story of fresh demise:
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mountain-lion-fatally-struck-trying-to-cross-la-freeway/ar-AAGX8jv

  28. delivered with the certainty of prophecy

    And since prophecy is the exclusive domain of charlatans and schizophrenics, this dude’s malakies should be taken with a grain of kosher salt.

    There will come a day when “prophecy” and “prophet” are viewed with the same disdain and ridicule as “horoscope” and “astrologer”. The only question is whether it happens before or after human-AI interfaces. My prophecy (HA!): after – at IQs below the current 95th percentile, human beings are incapable of routinely differentiating shit from clay, except in things within small-ε of their domain of specialisation.

    AlphaZero is amazingly close to genuine AI: 5 more generations (i.e., 4-5 years) and the prospect of raising the median IQ to 140-ish won’t be far-fetched. Productivity will plummet, since smart people are satisficers, and are also disinclined to allow employers to capture 25% of their productivity and government ~50% of what’s left (have a look at the political leanings of Triple9ers: they’re anarchists in all but name).

    In a world of very smart people, we will need robots – but we will finally acknowledge that we don’t need politicians, or the parties that ration candidature for the ultimate economic free-riders: the political class, y compris the Little Eichmanns of the bureaucracy/judiciary, and of course the whole of their Sicherheitsdienst.

    That’s not a forecast, nor a prophecy: it’s just what will happen. What’s that word Misesians use? I forget… I wouldn’t if I had a brain interface to a half-decent dictionary.

    • LOL: anonymous coward
    • Replies: @Anounder
  29. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Looked up “virago” on Bing, which gave

    synonyms:
    harridan · shrew · dragon · termagant · vixen · fishwife · witch · hellcat · she-devil · tartar · martinet · spitfire · hag · gorgon · fury · ogress · harpy · nag · trout · battleaxe · old bag · old bat · cow · old cow · bitch · targe · scold · Xanthippe

    Yep, pretty much.

    • LOL: jim jones
    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  30. vinny says:

    This is an occasional reminder of the GOP’s role in the Great Recession, which ended any prospect of affordable family formation for the largest generation of Americans in history, during its prime years of fertility.

    • Agree: Daniel H
  31. PSR says:

    It might not happen next year but if we keep letting in over a million immigrants a year it’s inevitable that “traditionalists”, (conservatives), are doomed.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  32. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    indignant Clinton voters, particularly women, so dominated the conversations. …

    Michelle Goldberg’s kind of people.

  33. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    White supremists have wanted to see the GOP dead, dead, DEAD for a long time. It would cause a new party to form or the Dems to shatter in half, because our first past the post means you are always going to have two large parties.

    The new party would be implicitly or explicitly pro-White.

    Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a major strategic error.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    , @Alfa158
  34. George says:

    If you view the Rs and Ds as non-ideological devoid of any principals then what you get is 2 parties doing the minimum effort to get slightly more than 50% of the vote. So it doesn’t matter if there are any ‘legacy’ Americans left there will always be a 51% and a 49% party, with the Rs and Ds switching every once in a while.

    My lastest internet find is from 1914 about the kind of immigrants coming to the US and their effects:

    The Old world in the New; the significance of past and present … Ross, Edward Alsworth, 1866-1951.
    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015001144909&view=1up&seq=66

    Alsworth became a young man during a previous Gilded Age, so he might have something to say about the world today.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @bigdicknick
  35. From an urban elite perspective, the problem with a Democrat dictatorship is that there is nothing to stop the economic far left of the party seizing control and turning the US into a Latin American-style socialist state (other than the military, which would open up a whole new can of political worms).

    Sorry Dem talking heads, but if you want an urban green/yuppie/hipster/feminist utopia you need the threat of a Republican government to keep the socialist hot heads in line.

  36. Mr. Anon says:

    It sounds almost messianic: the Republican Party, that foul agglomeration of bigotry and avarice that has turned American politics into a dystopian farce, not just defeated but destroyed.

    That’s rich. A partisan of kleptocrat influence-peddler Hillary Clinton complains of avarice.

    The inexorable force of demography bringing us a new, enlightened political dispensation.

    These people are insane. A lot of us will not consent to be governed by these deranged lunatics. I don’t want anybody whom Michelle Goldberg would vote for to have power over my life.

  37. Dr. X says:

    Prop 187 is a straw man. It’s irrelevant, except as an example of how the elites can and will casually crush the will of the voters and continue to advance their globalist, racially-egalitarian agenda.

    The bigger problem is that the Republican Party refuses to be an explicitly white party, while the Democrats are an explicitly anti-white party during an era in which nearly all immigration is nonwhite, immigration is completely unchecked, and black and brown birthrates are higher than white birthrates.

    This battle was fought and lost by whites between 1965 and 1968 — and most of the whites who fought it back then were Democrats, like George Wallace. We tend to forget that some of the biggest “liberals” who did some of the biggest damage to white interests were Republicans like Harry Blackmun, Earl Warren, Nelson Rockefeller, George Romney — and even Ronald Reagan, who signed abortion and gun control into law, amnestied illegals in 1986, and put Sandra O’Connor on the Supreme Court.

    The inevitable is coming — if not in 2020 then 2024 — and it will be the direct result of whites failing to reproduce and failing to stick together to advance their own racial and cultural interests for the last fifty years. George Lincoln Rockwell had all of this figured out back in the Sixties… and people thought he was a nut. But practically everything he said would have been considered plain common sense by the American Establishment and nearly every president from probably 1825 to 1955. By the ’60s, Rockwell had to be a “Nazi” troll to get any attention.

    The (((Goldbergs))) of the world are rubbing their hands in anticipation…

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    , @ariel
  38. Mr. Anon says:

    Some Texas Republicans warn that Texas will go Democrat:

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/12/texas-gop-congressmen-warn-state-is-going-purple-d/

    And attribute it to exactly the wrong reason.

    See what you wrought, GOP idiots: your own demographically insured irrelevancy.

    Proving the old truism about the two parties – The Democrats are the Evil Party, and the Republicans are the Stupid Party.

    • Replies: @Sleep
    , @indocon
  39. 62% say immigration is good while only 28% say it’s a burden? That can’t be true. If I was Trump I would double down on the invasion.

  40. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Last vestiges left in late 1970s or early 1980s.

  41. anonymous[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Vagina monologues

    • Replies: @Lurker
  42. Dare We Dream of the End of the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit?

  43. The demographic disaster prediction depends on one assumption: that white voters won’t swing hard to the Republican side when they realize what the Democrats are about. Republicans will win for 20 more years if whites vote 80% Republican.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  44. Whiskey says: • Website

    Professional White women are the natural and eternal enemy of White men. No wonder they hate us. Look at their husbands . And kids.

    White women run the Democratic party now. It’s all one giant pussy hat wearing rage against White men.

    We will see if Blacks and Hispanics vote for Warren.

    • Replies: @S. M. Coulton
  45. Daniel H says:
    @Anonymous

    White supremists have wanted to see the GOP dead, dead, DEAD for a long time. It would cause a new party to form or the Dems to shatter in half, because our first past the post means you are always going to have two large parties.

    The new party would be implicitly or explicitly pro-White.

    Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a major strategic error.

    Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  46. Marlboro says:

    So, when Florida or Texas are lost , what happens. That’s what needs to be thought about. How does it play out. Nothing lasts forever.

  47. Anon7 says:

    OT: Tomorrow’s big story:

    Can everyone in the Bahamas just move here?

    “Over 1,000 Bahamian refugees, left behind devastation and chaos and landed in the Port of Palm Beach after being brought over on a cruise ship to escape Hurricane Dorian’s destruction…

    The refugees can stay under asylum here for 30 days before having to apply for visas. Lawmakers are working legislation to allow Bahamian refugees to stay without visas.

    On Saturday, the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol said that they processed 1,435 passengers from the Bahamas who arrived at the Port of Palm Beach.”

    1,100 Bahamian refugees land at the Port of Palm Beach

  48. Who would have guessed that Michelle GoldBERG would agree with Stanley GreenBERG, and that both would have such penetrating insights into the views of heartland Americans? This is the kind of intellectual diversity that led the Times to give Hillary a 95 percent chance of defeating the now-forgotten Donald Trump.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  49. njguy73 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Are there any real Brooklynites left in Brooklyn? Or did they all follow the Dodgers?

    They’re either in Staten Island or my state.

  50. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel H

    ….the Republican Party, that foul agglomeration of bigotry and avarice that has turned American politics into a dystopian farce, not just defeated but destroyed

    Real equanimous that Michelle.

    Really, Michelle’s language is hate speech, right?

  51. Kronos says:
    @Daniel H

    Sounds kinda Bolshevik to me, I wonder if she had a few family relatives over there?…

  52. Anon7 says:

    “The inexorable force of demography bringing us a new, enlightened political dispensation.”

    Do Democrat strategists really believe that the New Americans supplied by open borders will be enlightened liberal democrats? Who will explain what “voting” is? It’s possible that they might just keep doing what they’re already doing, except that they will be doing it here.

  53. Escher says:

    The NYT columnists aren’t even pretending to be objective any more. Witness her glee at the impending “demise” of the GOP.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  54. Toward the end of his new book, “R.I.P. G.O.P.,” the renowned Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg makes a thrilling prediction, delivered with the certainty of prophecy. “The year 2020 will produce a second blue wave on at least the scale of the first in 2018 and finally will crash and shatter the Republican Party that was consumed by the ill-begotten battle to stop the New America from governing,” he writes.

    It sounds almost messianic: the Republican Party, that foul agglomeration of bigotry and avarice that has turned American politics into a dystopian farce, not just defeated but destroyed. The inexorable force of demography bringing us a new, enlightened political dispensation.

    A political philosophy/ideology that can’t actually convince the nation’s native voters but basically boasts “we’ve taken you hostage!”

    • Replies: @istevefan
  55. Kronos says:
    @PSR

    I remember Victor Davis Hanson going about last year explaining how allowing illegal immigrants from Mexico into the US provides a pressure valve. That if they stayed there it’ll likely lead to massive unrest and economic instability. The Federal Reserve bailed out Mexico twice right? The financial class and petty stock holders are addicted to cheap labor and extracting capital flight from Mexico/Latin American countries.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  56. MEH 0910 says:

    His confidence will not be enough to lessen the insomnia that has plagued me since the cursed night when Trump was elected.

    Besides sleeping less, it looks like Michelle Goldberg has been eating more:

  57. @newrouter

    A question for the California crowd: Is lbgwerty thing big with “Hispanics”?

    It is with this one:

    Ironically, he makes a good case for keeping out crazy immigrants by showing that we have more than enough homegrown ones. Though I think he posted this newsclip because he liked watching the guy run.

    https://perezhilton.com/pitcher-blake-bivens-wife-son-dog-murdered-virginia/

  58. newrouter says:
    @Daniel H

    Fag Fascism: Laugh at the stupid.

  59. newrouter says:
    @Anon7

    Trump wants floating motels:


    Deep State says NO

  60. @Escher

    “The NYT columnists aren’t even pretending to be objective any more.”

    Opinion Columnists aren’t supposed to be objective.

  61. Bubba says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    The day the music died on February 23, 1960 when Ebbets Field was destroyed. The Hasidics took over the area.

    Not many real Brooklynites remain as most have left.

  62. To summarize:

    Goldberg and Greenberg hate white people and think they have the power to get rid of us. And they will press their advantage until we’re gone.

    • Replies: @Hamlet's Ghost
  63. True, but the good ones at least address the strongest arguments of the opposition, and don’t write diatribes composed almost entirely of ad hominem vitriol and appeals to emotion and authority.

    • Agree: sayless
  64. Flip says:

    Trotsky became overconfident and suffered defeat. His ideological heirs will too.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  65. Bubba says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Opinion Columnists aren’t supposed to be objective.

    True, however respectable Opinion Columnists are supposed to be rational and make some sense with their persuasive writing skills. But the NYT’s gave that up years & years ago.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
  66. The ability to operate a Republic like the United States requires a certain set of principles, skills, and maturity. Basically, with the Democratic Party, you will get California. You will get a booming economy and massive inequality and no middle class. The middle class was already driven out of the cities … gentrification has been a long slog back. I think there will be long-term civil unrest as well (which has already begun). I’m not saying we’ll end up Venezuela right away. But I don’t think we get 10-15 more years out of the current social order.

  67. Hopscotch says:

    I have no idea which way 2020 will go. Stanley Greenberg doesn’t either.

    One thing is for certain. It Trump wins 2020 but loses the popular vote, the Dems will double down in going after the Electoral College. They will go after it on three fronts:
    1) Elect new voters. More immigration and Chetty magic dirt arguments, basically moving NAM’s to low population swing/red states.
    2) 1619-style arguments where Federalism is tainted by slave libel, hence should be discarded. Hamilton, good. EC, bad.
    3) Pacts between blue states about having electors respecting the national popular vote. Intended to force the issue in front of the Supreme Court, or with a constitutional amendment.

    • Replies: @Ed
  68. @Reg Cæsar

    What the fuck is happening to this neighborhood?

    • Replies: @Kronos
  69. Goldberg on Greenburg, with replies from Brett Stephens and Paul Krugman.

    all perspectives in America get represented and heard from.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Pericles
    , @ATBOTL
  70. J.Ross says:
    @Joe Magarac

    Yes. This is how the Bolsheviki became tyrannical. They honestly thought that their ideas were so brilliant that everything necessary was simply to be given a shot, so resistance (which, frustration of frustrations, always came most militantly from the very people they were trying to help) should just be shoved aside with an iron broom. Oh and then there’s that handy censorship containing the spread of misinformation, so, even if you are wrong, who’s to say?

  71. J.Ross says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Maybe his wording was clumsy but there used to be an idea of a common culture and a common address, meaning, if nothing else, that the other side can hear you too. Stuff like Robert’s Rules of Order (or English Parliamentary Procedure, or whatever) prohibiting accusing somebody of lying no matter how screamingly obvious it might be. That’s gone.

  72. J.Ross says:
    @billhindaytona

    California does not have a booming economy, California has an economy giving off heat even though the heart has stopped beating, and everything they ever managed was from un-American levels of state intervention. I have lost count of all the discussions I have seen of Californians fleeing California.

    • Replies: @Flip
  73. J.Ross says:
    @Kronos

    There’s a great historical proof of this: a town in Siberia preceded Western Europe in women’s and universal sufferage, and in widespread literacy and other things, because the Decembrists were sent there rather than being executed, and Tsaristly allowed to implement their program, so long as it was nowhere near St Petersburg. Which also implies that #%^hole countries might be forced to improve if they suffered the pressure which they get rid of by throwing away their unhappiest people.

  74. @Steve Sailer

    Are today’s “news” reports any better? I remember the USA Today news article after Ellen Pao lost her case, it was more biased the vast majority of op-eds I ever read.

    Other than a perfunctory reporting of the facts at the start, the remaining 90 plus percent read like it was written by her lawyer mixed with academic feminist agitprop, and this was on the front page of their business/finance section.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  75. @Flip

    Trotsky became overconfident and suffered defeat.

    Yeah. To Uncle Joe.

    His ideological heirs will too.


    Meet the new boss…

  76. istevefan says:

    “The year 2020 will produce a second blue wave on at least the scale of the first in 2018 and finally will crash and shatter the Republican

    Was 2018 a blue wave?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Jack Henson
  77. @Unladen Swallow

    I remember the USA Today news article

    Amazing. I’ve read many over 37 years, and can’t remember a single one! “TV on paper.”

    I do remember their photo of a derailed train, but only because I was riding on the train behind it.

  78. istevefan says:
    @AnotherDad

    I recall discussing something like this with a neighbor once. He was going on about the democrats’ success during one election cycle, and I pointed out that the democrats had lost the battle for historic Americans. At first he didn’t get it. Then I pointed out how the democrats were now drawing 45% or less of the White vote. For a moment I could see the gears turning in his head. But he just changed the subject.

    Later, BTW, he did vote for Trump. It seems the trannies-in-the-bathroom issue finally got him to realize these aren’t your daddy’s democrats who champion the working class.

  79. nsa says:
    @Redneck farmer

    “What happens, say 20 years from now, when the “non-white majority” decides the jew has too much power?”
    That’s easy….we all crack out the champagne.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  80. @Bubba

    So did all the mainstream media about 25-30 years ago, depending on the source. The NYT I think after they gave some initial positive reporting of ” The Bell Curve ” quickly backtracked and started going all leftist talking points 24/7 and began editorializing the news coverage just like other establishment media sources.

    • Agree: Bubba
    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  81. Mr. Anon says:
    @Tom Scarlett

    What is it some guy is always saying here?

    EST

    Every. Single. Time.

    One might add:

    NEPA

    Not Even Pretending Anymore

  82. @billhindaytona

    Bingo.

    Does California or New York City have interesting politics?

    No, they are post-politics because there really is no debate. Giuliani, despite his myriad of faults, was the last New York City mayor for which there was any ideology involved in his politics. Giuliani did not represent so much a sea change as the last gasp of white ethnic politics in New York City. Trump is the same phenomenon, but on a national level. Trump is not the future, but the last gasp of a dying demographic.

    The future of American politics (or non-politics as I see it) is what I call Oligarchical Socialism. American politics within ten years and for the foreseeable future will be indistinguishable from the politics of Mexico and the rest of Central and South America. Oligarchical Socialism embodies the rhetoric of socialism and uplift for the poor, but in reality never challenges the ever increasing power and wealth of the entrenched oligarchy. Guatemala and Mexico will never have a Nordic style welfare state because they lack a middle class economy to support a generous safety net for the poor. The same holds true for the future of the United States.

    Political rhetoric will continue to target the middle class and wealthy, but increasingly actual wealth redistribution will be ineffectual, just as it is in Central and South America. The majority of the population will be impoverished with pockets of affluence increasingly cut-off from the rest of the population which is consistent with California, Mexico and Brazil.

    So-called “Right Wing” politics will only play a factor when the oligarchs lose control of the socialist rhetoric and real change is made possible. Then politics will turn authoritarian, not to improve the lot of Americans, but to suppress a populist socialist movement. This is consistent with Central and South American politics for the past seventy years.

    The only thing that will be interesting is how long the United States can fund a global empire with an economy more like that of Brazil and Mexico than Germany and Japan. Likely, not very long.

    This is when History begins again, and New Paths are possible.

  83. Escher says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Fair enough.
    She could be a bit more restrained in her writing, though.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  84. J.Ross says:
    @istevefan

    No. Trump did better than anyone you could compare him to (W was still benefitting from Urban Moving Systems, recent Democrat presidents suffered worse at midterms), and those Republicans who lost a seat in Congress in 2018 were largely anti-Trump people.

  85. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    The only thing that will be interesting is how long the United States can fund a global empire with an economy more like that of Brazil and Mexico than Germany and Japan. Likely, not very long.

    This is when History begins again, and New Paths are possible.

    The key difference between whatever is to happen with the US and what has happened in Latin America is that to one degree or another every action of Latin American politics has been in reaction to the United States. All Latin policies incorporate various dynamics: resentment, envy, spite, acknowledgement of their own relative inferiority, the reception of billions in foreign aid, and fear both rational and irrational, of the US.

    By contrast, we just really don’t give a shit what Latins do, for the most part. Occasionally we find their antics amusing, and occasionally we (usually our elites) find Latin music or art or whatever to be the in thing, but they have little to offer us besides baseball payers from the DR, and reproduction 1920s Grand Prix Bugattis for a quarter mil each.

    When we’re gone, much of their modus operandi will make no sense even to them and will vanish.

    Latin America consists of Spanish whites, other European whites, indios, and mestizos, with negroes significant mostly in northern Brazil and a few other spots. The reactions occuring there are not likely here and vice versa: the whites, mestizos and indigenos have long since settled into their ‘rightful places’ down there. If the gravy train of welfare benefits stops and unskilled labor is as poorly paying in the US as it is in their home countries, the illegals and many legals will vamoose, especially when whites start getting a little hostile.

    We on the other hand will have way bigger fish to fry. I’m pretty sure the US will break up into between four and ten countries in varying levels of hostility toward each other. As always, whites’ biggest enemies will be other whites. In some areas, the pitchforks will come out for certain groups.

    Who gets the nukes is my biggest question. Of course, I won’t be here to see it, but younger readers will get a front row seat.

    • Replies: @Wishful thinking much
  86. El Dato says:

    Wow. The glorious righteousness of and teleological future promised by hard Marxism-Leninism-Hedonism. I foresee a rather impressive death toll, way north of the 6 million.

    This is not the first time that experts have predicted the inevitable triumph of progressive politics.

    Uh.. yeah? Progressivism is based on the idea of ultimate utter victory of “my ideas” (whatever these are at the moment). It’s right there in the name.

    “liberated from the nation’s suffocating polarization to use government to advance the public good.”

    Buy cattle truck futures!

    Criticism of progressive theory in Aldous Huxley’s Ape and Essence

    Progress — the theory that you can get something for nothing; the theory that you can gain in one field without paying for your gain in another; the theory that you alone understand the meaning of history; the theory that you know what’s going to happen fifty years from now; the theory that, in the teeth of all experience, you can foresee all the consequences of your present actions; the theory that Utopia lies just ahead and that, since ideal ends justify the most abominable means, it is your privilege and duty to rob, swindle, torture, enslave and murder all those who, in your opinion (which is, by definition, infallible), obstruct the onward march to the earthly paradise. Remember that phrase of Karl Marx’s: ‘Force is the midwife of Progress.’ He might have added — but of course Belial didn’t want to let the cat out of the bag at that early stage of the proceedings — that Progress is the midwife of Force. Doubly the midwife, for the fact of technological progress provides people with the instruments of ever more indiscriminate destruction, while the myth of political and moral progress serves as the excuse for using those means to the very limit. I tell you, my dear sir, an undevout historian is mad. The longer you study modern history, the more evidence you find of Belial’s Guiding Hand.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  87. @Not My Economy

    GOP has not offered much, and what they have offered, they’ve failed to deliver on.

    That’s been their problem since the corporations forced out small business between the start of WW II and the end of the Korean War. It’s one of the reasons they lost in the 1960s.

    Before the Korean War there was a weak but real small business wing of the Republican Party, but that wing vanished when the small businesses vanished. The final event was sending the Reserves to Korea after WW II. Small business owners tended to be in the Reserves, and being away from their businesses during WW II and the Korean war while the corporations took the major war work pretty much did them in.

    The Corporate wing of runs things, and their personnel are chosen by a bureaucratic system. Let’s just say that they are a systems people, “corporation men”, and don’t see outside of their incentive scheme. As a person whose professional work is in systems control, I’m in a position to say that the initiative schemes are ramshackle improvisations that, often as not, require an informal network to keep the organization at all functional. The informal network is often re-purposed to new goals in contradiction to the formal goals (For a well known example, see Google, c.f. “Don’t be evil” formal goal with the current “Be SJW’ informal goals.).
    Give corporate man a government position and he will use it as described in the blockquote. He was promoted by his company by a process of selection that eliminated any other kind of person.

    So, yes, the Republican party really does act that way. Laws being what they are in the West, new party formation is difficult. Trump’s re-making of the Republican party is its only chance of survival. Otherwise, its future lies in being a permanent Devil party for the convenience of the Democrats.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  88. @Anon7

    “Over 1,000 Bahamian refugees, left behind devastation and chaos and landed in the Port of Palm Beach after being brought over on a cruise ship to escape Hurricane Dorian’s destruction…

    Any Democrat would read that as:

    ““Over 1,000 new democratic voters, left behind devastation and chaos and landed in the Port of Palm Beach after being brought over on a cruise ship to escape Hurricane Dorian’s destruction…”

    and they might also think:

    “Over 1,000 Bahamian reason to fund welfare, hence tax more and support more Democratic civil service workers and, therefore, our urban political strongholds, left behind devastation and chaos and landed in the Port of Palm Beach after being brought over on a cruise ship to escape Hurricane Dorian’s destruction…

    So it isn’t a surprise that:
    Lawmakers are working legislation to allow Bahamian refugees to stay without visas.

    Political thinking.

    Counterinsurgency

    Counterinsurgency

  89. Alfa158 says:
    @Anonymous

    The GOP is already dead here in California. With open primaries the two candidates for almost every statewide elected office consists of two Democrats. So far there is no slight sign that a new second party is arising that will split the Democrats. It appears there is enough loot to go around to keep all the factions on the reservation. The Democrats enact any program that the most extreme members want, except when it is fiscally impossible or they get too close to the interests of the Inner Party members.

    Examples: there was a bill to impose universal health care and it only died because it would have entailed spending 3x the current State budget to pay for it.
    Last year there was a bill to replace municipal zoning laws with statewide zoning so that high income R1 zoned cities would have to allow multiple dwelling units. It died because the residents of places like Beverly Hills and Malibu who fund the politicians raised a stink. This session the bill has been re-introduced.
    There was another bill withdrawn that would have forbidden municipalities from having laws that would prohibit living in a vehicle parked on any public street in any municipality.
    Two years ago the State did enact a law that public schools cannot stop any student from using whichever restroom or locker room they identify with.
    Repeal of Proposition 13 is starting to get some traction.

    It is still early days so we’ll see what happens when the factions have to start fighting over the pie. Blacks are still in the coalition despite active ethnic cleansing of their old neighborhoods by Latinx.
    Asians are also voting over 75%, but the White population of California is at 37% and dropping fast. When Asians become the most populous high income group in the State it will be their turn to pick up the check for everyone else.

    The Republicans will soon be going the way of the Whigs, and I think in the next couple of decades there will probably be a new alternative party, but maybe I’m being optimistic. Mexico was ruled by the PRI for four decades, and the Soviet Union managed to hold on to one party rule for seven decades.

  90. @Clifford Brown

    Very plausible scenario except I think we’re already out of money.

  91. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Daniel H

    See this comment nearby. Nothing like that has happened yet in California, despite the GOP being routed demographically.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/demographic-doom-for-the-gop/#comment-3436972

  92. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Escher

    I wonder if they’re encouraged not to be. That would be a parsimonious explanation for Bret Stephens’ output since moving to the NYT.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  93. Re: article

    I’ve been reading about the Spanish Civil War of the 1930s [1]. So far, I’m just in the build-up. The similarities to the present are amazing. The Left flatly refused to recognize the legitimacy of any non-Left party, demanding in one case that a perfectly valid national election be re-run because the Left had not won, despite having been in control of government long enough to re-write election law (which the Left did). Their grounds were explicitly that the non-Left was “strengthened” by the election.
    The Left vastly over estimated its strength, which in reality was restricted to the cities and to landless laborers, and believed it was in a position to make such demands. It was rather like the Democratic Party after the urban race riots of the late 1960s, and rather like today.

    Can’t people think of anything that _hasn’t_ been tried and failed utterly with in the 1920s and 1930s? Doesn’t the Left remember how utterly it lost Europe after about 1935? One begins to see why the Zombie Invasion theme has become so popular — Zombies are not the Third World, they are the leadership of the Left. And that’s what is taking the Left down. Like the joke when Hitler is found and offered power in 1950: He agrees to come back but on one condition: “This time, no more Mr. Nice Guy”. The Left is running this joke in real life.

    As far as the Right goes, well, consider the E-Bay economy and the scaling up of such an economy to industrial trade.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Stanley G. Payne
    _The Spanish Civil War_
    Cambridge University Press, 7/14/12 edition.
    ISBN-10: 0521174708; ISBN-13: 978-0521174701

    • Replies: @map
    , @Hopscotch
  94. @Dave Pinsen

    There is a NYT transformation happening, that seems to be quite clear by now.
    Whether or not this will bring the fruits = the political power they so emphatically promise, only time can tell.

    The Sailer strategy might still be valid in 2020.

  95. @Counterinsurgency

    With the Bahamas, the U.S. is legitimately their closest neighbor, so taking in some Bahamians for awhile at least isn’t like taking in somebody from the other side of the world who traipsed across nine safe countries to get here.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    , @Anon7
  96. @Joe Magarac

    Joe Morgan wrote:

    Do the Democrats think absent the Republicans, there will be no opposition to anything they do (including from their own)?

    Yeah, that’s the simple and obvious point of political science that Goldberg/Greenberg miss.

    It is very likely that the Dems will take the Presidency in either 2020 or 2024. And they will make some “progressive” changes that a majority of the population will support (even if everyone here finds those changes abhorrent).

    But, they will over-reach.

    They really will try to outlaw the fossil-fuel industry. Or they’ll try to legalize infanticide. Or something that neither I nor they have yet imagined.

    And, they will find out that their margin of victory was due not to the hard-core true believers but rather to folks in the mushy muddle who think the GOP went a bit too far in the other direction.

    The slow, secular drift is leftward: long term, I think it augurs disaster. Our current fiscal and monetary policies cannot continue for year after year, decade after decade. Our foreign policy was created in a world that no longer exists. And, our “progressive” society built on bureaucracy and paper shufflers is killing real economic growth and the spirit of the American people.

    But, politics is not long-term; it’s short-term.

    A few weeks ago, I was chatting with an acquaintance who calls herself not a liberal, but an outright leftist. But, she was complaining about the collapse in quality of life due to the homeless people dominating large parts of our major cities.

    She’ll probably never vote Republican. But if the Dems enact everything they are promising, some of it will not work in a way that is so obvious that even partisan Dems get a bit glum.

    And, the GOP will return, having made its peace with the newly popular aspects of the “progressive” agenda and promising to trim the unpopular pieces around the edges.

    No, that will not restore the America we have lost. But it does mean the GOP will not die.

    Anyone as old as Sailer or me has seen this happen several times, and it will keep happening, at least until some crisis bigger than the Civil War or the Great Depression finally puts the Republic out of its misery.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    , @bomag
  97. @Diversity is Great!

    I suspect a lot of white parents would support this idea.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  98. Lurker says:
    @Joe Magarac

    They’ll be able to keep the coalition staggering along for some time hunting down the last vestiges of white political power, cutting down the tall trees of white privilege.

  99. Lurker says:
    @Diversity is Great!

    Always great when we can fully agree with the other side on an issue!

    • Agree: Prodigal son
  100. Lurker says:
    @anonymous

    Vagina demagogues.

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
  101. eah says:

    Demographic Doom for the GOP?

    The GOP/so-called “conservatives” have their own problems — ask Jason Richwine.

    Demographic Doom for the GOP America?

    • Replies: @eah
  102. @Cagey Beast

    Why has this comment of mine been left in moderation limbo? I don’t understand the rules of this game.

    • Replies: @Jasper Been
    , @TTSSYF
  103. Aft says:

    insomnia that has plagued me since the cursed night when Trump was elected.

    Glad to see the NYT providing much-needed jobs for unproductive whiners and the mentally ill.

  104. @Bubba

    The day the music died on February 23, 1960 when Ebbets Field was destroyed. The Hasidics took over the area.

    Don’t the Hasidics get their asses beat on the streets by teens, violence that the press ignores because Hasidics vote Trump? And because also, ‘teens’? Pretty soon, they’re going to have to change to a description of thugs other than teens, because by now teens are widely assumed to mean Blacks. Also, because thugs run the streets with impunity there now, I can’t imagine where Goldberg lives in Brooklyn where SHE doesn’t get accosted.

  105. Realist says:

    Demographic Doom for the GOP?

    An immensely larger problem is the demographic doom of the white race.

    • Agree: Charles Pewitt
  106. Hhsiii says:
    @Diversity is Great!

    Davon Dillard, mentioned in the article, is a talented head case. Suspended by his high school team for fighting teammates etc, suspended several times at Oklahoma State (which takes some doing) before transferring to a DII school (there are plenty of historically black DI schools to choose. He must mean, by getting to be himself there, that his bad behavior will be less conspicuous, but he’s wrong. Probably why he couldn’t even get an MEAC conference school to pick him up.

  107. map says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    It’s really amazing how no one understand this. While it is true that those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it, it is equally true that those who fail to learn history correctly are simply doomed.

    The Bolsheviks winning and Spanish fascists winning are both due to each controlling the countryside. The Spanish communists controlling the urban areas and landless labor was no advantage at all, just like it was no advantage for Tsar Nicholas.

    Remember, civil wars are wars over control of a central government. The US has never fought a civil war. Those wars were entirely wars of separation, whether the Americans against the British or the South against the Union.

  108. @Bubba

    The day the music died on February 23, 1960 when Ebbets Field was destroyed. The Hasidics took over the area.

    They didn’t. Just look at Google street view–Black as far as the eye can see

  109. Declane says:

    Trump hatred is a much more potent force in this country than Trump love.

    Without Trump, there can be no Trump love. What potent force will replace that emotion in the hearts of men once Trump is gone?

    …I guess they haven’t thought that far ahead.

  110. Ed says:
    @Hopscotch

    It’s almost inevitable that Trump will lose the popular vote. I don’t even think people that believe Trump will win (such as myself), will win the popular vote. Between NY and CA and deteriorating situation in TX from Republican perspective it’s simply unfeasible.

    The Democrats will go ballistic but SCOTUS will affirm the status qua which will simply enrage them more.

  111. There might not be an actual tidal wave of Blue Voters, but they will find a tidal wave of Blue Votes. They’ve learned they can brazenly and shamelessly steal elections all over the land with no consequences. That is the lesson from 2018. It’s why a number of Repubes are deciding to “retire.”

  112. Ed says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    The two senators from FL are behind the push for what it’s worth. After Trump the GOP will put its final nail in its coffin without much help from the Democrats.

  113. Realist says:
    @Redneck farmer

    What happens, say 20 years from now, when the “non-white majority” decides Jews have too much power?

    It won’t be 20 years…much sooner.

  114. Anon[957] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Not all of them are viragos though. Some of them have kids.

  115. Realist says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Demographic Doom for the GOP?

    Pretty much.

    The Republicans and Democrats were usurped decades ago by the Deep State. The Deep State doesn’t care about the unimportant internecine squabbles of the ‘two parties’ as long as their important issues are resolved to their liking. As a matter of fact it strengthens the false perception that there is a choice when voting.

  116. ChrisZ says:
    @Lurker

    This coinage deserves a gold box.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  117. Flip says:
    @J.Ross

    Idaho is booming from all the white flight from California coming in.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  118. Hibernian says:
    @Bubba

    Was the Ebbets Field site in or near Crown Heights? I believe Ebbets Field was replaced by a public housing project as were the Polo Grounds.

    • Replies: @Bubba
  119. @Redneck farmer

    Especially those with daughters.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  120. @Colin Wright

    hence why gun control is a top issue.

  121. @Clifford Brown

    Couldn’t have happened to nicer people though.

  122. @PhysicistDave

    Hegelian Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis, but always downward and degrading. Entropy for the USA. And to think, we have it better than other countries.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  123. Arclight says:

    The “mulish devotion” of Trump voters? I can think of a group whose devotion to the Democratic party in elections makes gold retrievers seem capricious, but we cannot discuss the behavior of a key element of the party’s base lest it make them look like they aren’t particularly thoughtful or measured compared to the hated majority.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @Harry Baldwin
  124. @George

    If you read the US with a third world population as a third world country then its plausible that one party will win every election for extremely long periods. Look at SA or even Mexico. Both have had periods in their recent history where one party wins all national elections for very long stretches with SA’s still ongoing.

    When people vote on the basis of identity its possible to have one party win pretty much forever.

  125. Thea says:

    Publicly salivating at the idea of a one party state. So unbecoming.

  126. @Cagey Beast

    Im sure you’re frustrated, but as I have said before, approving/moderating comments is an art, not a science. Try chanting a mantra and your luck may improve.

    Or, to use a phrase many commenters on here love, “it is a feature, not a bug.”

    LOL

  127. @Counterinsurgency

    Any Democrat would read that as:

    ““Over 1,000 new democratic voters, left behind devastation and chaos and landed in the Port of Palm Beach after being brought over on a cruise ship to escape Hurricane Dorian’s destruction…”

    and they might also think:

    You sound like a 15th century native American, on hearing that Columbus had landed in the Bahamas, predicting that a flood of Europeans would follow and take over the tribal hunting grounds.

    It is actually a huge step from providing shelter for some homeless Bahamian hurricane victims, who would probably prefer to be back home helping to reconstruct their own country, and counting people as Democratic voters, because to become voters, they would first have to apply for permanent residency, which might take a couple of years, and then spend three years on a green card, before they would be eligible to convert to citizenship and vote.

    Add to that point that many of them will be children or old people who have no particular interest in voting for either party, and out of those, some might vote Republican if the Republicans put forward an agenda that appeals to voters. Also, if they do become citizens, very likely some will live in places that have strong Republican majorities, and only those who lived in very marginal congressional seats would potentially have influence.

    And is there any evidence that the much larger number of Haitians admitted under Temporary Protected Status after the earthquake of 2010 have been responsible for even one state or federal congressional seat or senate seat changing hands?

    So, no, I don’t think any Democratic Party politician sees the arrival of these Bahamians in the way you believe.

    On the other hand, it might be beneficial for the US to provide resources and assistance to help the Bahamians to get back and rebuild their islands, assist with designing building codes that will make homes, shelters, churches, medical clinics, schools, and roads even more hurricane resistant than before, and put the Grand back into Bahama again.

    • Replies: @Peterike
  128. TTSSYF says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Depressing, but I can’t disagree.

  129. @Alfa158

    Examples: there was a bill to impose universal health care and it only died because it would have entailed spending 3x the current State budget to pay for it.

    From that you could deduct the amount that citizens are already paying in health insurance premiums, which is a huge amount of money. My family pays $500 per month plus an employer contribution of $360 per month, and that does not even cover a couple of visits a year to a doctor to get a prescription for an antibiotic for my child, nor does it pay for the medicine.

    It is just an incredibly expensive form of mandatory bankruptcy insurance that may not even be effective.

  130. TTSSYF says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Other columnists and bloggers at Unz review and approve comments much more quickly and less capriciously, so there can be a dialog of sorts.

  131. Once the Republicans are gone and the Democrats are in control what need will there be for elections or even Women’s and Gay rights? The great purges will begin.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  132. @Diversity is Great!

    Bringing elite athletic talent back to black colleges would have potent downstream effects. It would boost HBCU revenues and endowments; stimulate the economy of the black communities in which many of these schools are embedded

    It is doubtful whether historically black colleges would be able to sell game tickets for anything like what popular white schools are able to charge. For the November game between the University of Florida against the Georgia Bulldogs, the cheapest seat in the house is $165, and they are asking prices in the $400-$500 for the better seats, so a pair of tickets could cost as much as an i-Phone or a super-duper new laptop for Steve.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    , @Federalist
  133. mmack says:
    @Diversity is Great!

    Definitely an iSteve worthy post, especially with the Nipsey Hussle cite in the article. Too bad they couldn’t work in Emmitt Till.

    I also like the Jay-Z quote. Now, just because I’m slow, the rules are:
    Diversity moves into a majority white neighborhood: Righting a racial wrong
    White people move into a majority Diverse neighborhood: Committing a racial wrong

    Have I got that correct? 🤔

    • Agree: Diversity is Great!
  134. ariel says:
    @Dr. X

    fertility rate for asian and native american women is below whites, also blacks and native – born hispanics have below replacement rate fertility

    • Replies: @Flip
  135. bomag says:
    @PhysicistDave

    at least until some crisis bigger than the Civil War or the Great Depression finally puts the Republic out of its misery.

    Agree with your comment, but we’ve spooled up enough crisis management skills, technology, and sedation of all sorts that we are in for general decline to a country-wide ghetto with pockets of wealth.

    • Agree: Bubba
  136. Hopscotch says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    A decade ago, I would say the Spanish Civil War was largely a forgotten piece of history, eclipsed by WW2 and accurately summarized by For Whom the Bell Tolls, i.e., “fascists are bad.” But… it did seem odd that an ethnically homogeneous, internally peaceful European nation basically tore itself apart, without a singular, motivating cause dividing the people. Can’t recall that happening any other time in modern history, but whaddya, whaddya….

    Now, I am willing to bet it was memory-holed by modern historians. The fighting saw a great deal of foreign involvement, as chronicled in Hemingway’s book. But the ethnic composition of the leftist International Brigades can be viewed in the most cynical light, with only a small fraction resembling Hemingway’s wide-eyed Anglo idealists.

    Suspect that the pre-war societal discord, like the actual fighting, had more substantial foreign involvement. The divisions in Spanish society were real, but guessing when the Spanish fascists said that discord was being amplified by “Jewish Marxist instigators” (or whatever the phrase was), they were reasonably accurate.

    • Replies: @Hopscotch
  137. Svevlad says:

    Pfft, it’ll just be a realignment like in the 60s

  138. Sleep says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I saw that, and a similar story in the Hill which surprised me. This article really only provides the opinion of one person, who happens to be black, as to the reason for the GOP’s demographic decline. I’m not convinced that he represents the Texas GOP as a whole. Neither did the Hill story, which blamed it all on white liberals moving in, convince me … selective reporting can do a lot to turn one story into another. But the Hill is usually pretty honest, so I was surprised.

  139. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfa158

    The PRI in Mexico is probably a good model of what California, and US, politics will look like with the Democrats in full power.

    • Replies: @Flip
  140. @Jonathan Mason

    The proposed fix for health care amounts to making health care worse, but making criticism of health care illegal (Hate speech, perhaps).

    Counterinsurgency

  141. @Counterinsurgency

    A serious question here:

    How is Trump’s remaking of the Republican Party going?

    The country is also very much divided between the Globalist Party and the Nationalist Party. Part of Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton was a victory of a Nationalist over a Globalist.

    IIRC, Trump’s first, immediate priorities after being elected were to do whatever the main GOP Nationalists Paul Ryan and Mitch the Turtle asked him to do: run up the deficit by cutting taxes on the rich, do whatever he could to hurt the Affordable Care Act, send the Ryan/ McConnell nominees to the Supreme Court, etc. Even Ann Coulter pointed this out.

    Trump has done a few things differently recently. But for at least the first couple of years, given the choice between being a leader of the Nationalists in this country, and being a cruder Jeb Bush, he went for being a cruder Jeb Bush.

    As far as the trade war goes, I think Trump made a very serious blunder early in his first term. Bernie Sanders offered to work with Trump on trade issues. Had Trump taken him up on the offer, two things would be very different. First, Trump would be seen as a Nationalist leader instead of a Republican leader. Second, Trump would have some support from the Nationalist Left in his trade policies. As it is, Sanders hates his trade policies, the Globalist Party (both the GOP and Dem versions) hate Trump. The Chinese play a long game. They know they will have some pain the next couple of years. They are counting on a Democrat beating Trump in 2020. Then Trump’s trade war will be over, even if a Nationalist wins as a Democrat.

    Sorry, but you don’t go into a war of any kind by first cutting off potential allies.

  142. @Jonathan Mason

    My kids were very surprised when I told them about the Power 5 trick of scheduling home games against weak teams, and then paying $500k to $1 million to have a weak team come and get thrashed. The local college was up 54-0 against Nobody after 3 quarters, and took it easy the 4th quarter, only winning 61-0.

    When you consider how much money an extra home game generates, the $500k – $1 million paid to the Nobody school is money well spent. Also, the Power 5 school needs x number of wins to make it to a bowl game. In a bad season, the extra couple of wins against Nobody can make the difference between bowl and no bowl, and the bowl is worth a lot of money to the Power 5 school.

    It can backfire. Years ago I went to a game against Nobody, and the Nobody school almost won. Had the Nobody school won, then the State U would not have been bowl eligible.

  143. @Jonathan Mason

    Exactly. For example, LSU and Southern (black university) are both in Baton Rouge. Even though the football team is very black, the LSU fan base is overwhelmingly white. If the best black players start playing for Southern instead of LSU, the LSU fan base and alumni aren’t going to start going to Southern football games and white kids aren’t going to enroll at Southern. Southern would have a much better football team than they do now, but with the same poor, black fan base.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
  144. @Anonymous

    The US won’t break up anytime soon, at least not in the foreseeable future. It’s far from a lawless place and the US federal government is fully functional and in full control of the US army; do you think they’d yield even an inch of US land to another sovereign state, new or existing?

    Having said that, the US disintegrating would have been great news for the peoples of Europe, as they would be finally free from the increasingly absurd cultural and political mores of America.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  145. Anon7 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    And, good news, there are only about 400,000 Bahamians.

  146. @Redneck farmer

    A Jew may or may not consider herself White, and I doubt that Michelle Goldberg does, but non-Whites consider them White. Uber Whites, if anything. For the most part, non-Whites are either indifferent to Israel while some sympathize with the Palestinians, regarding them as oppressed POCs victimized by the world’s last White colonial power.

    There is a growing realization among White gentiles that, collectively, Jews are an aggressively hostile elite that has been in the forefront of political radicalism and cultural subversion since the 19th Century.

    It would be best for Jews to make aliyah to Israel. I daresay that few would continue to be malcontents in their own country among their own people. The world would also continue to benefit from the high intelligence and creativity of the Jews. They would be happier and we would be happier.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Lot
  147. @Anonymous

    I’m an outlier – a middle-aged White Boomer Republican who realizes that the Jews exploit the Holocaust. When I was little, we knew about concentration camps and Ann Frank, but that was about it. Victimhood wasn’t in fashion and whining was looked down upon by our Greatest Generation parents. The Holocaust Industry seems to have taken off after the 1978 miniseries “Holocaust.”

    Someone once pointed out that at one time, the Holocaust was a part of WWII. Now WWII is a part of the Holocaust.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Jonathan Mason
  148. @Patrick in SC

    The Good People from all over the world, especially Pakistan and Somalia, just love Jews and Israel.

    Michelle Goldberg and other White-hating leftists want to see the US and other Western nations overrun with third world invaders and turned into third-world toilets. They figure that somehow they won’t suffer.

  149. EdwardM says:
    @Diversity is Great!

    predominantly white institutions whose collective multibillion-dollar revenues have been built largely on the exertions of (uncompensated) black athletes.

    But they are compensated. They get a free university education. . . oh, right.

  150. @Anon7

    Any problem, anywhere in the world, can be ameliorated by more Negro migration into the United States.

    • LOL: JudgeSmails
  151. Peterike says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    “they would first have to apply for permanent residency, which might take a couple of years, and then spend three years on a green card, before they would be eligible to convert to citizenship and vote.”

    Or they could, say, go get a drivers license, which will register them to vote automatically, then go vote because there are no ID checks of any kind. Which is a thing that happens here in real life by the millions, but your dreamscape is so much more pleasant.

  152. @Steve Sailer

    An opinion columnist need not be neutral. But a good opinion columnist is indeed objective, in that he or she recognizes that there is another point of view and at least acknowledges it in an op-ed piece.

  153. @Unladen Swallow

    Tying in with the other blog about corporate sponsorship of The Nation:

    The Left is supposed to be the part of the spectrum opposed to blindly following corporate interests.
    Is corporate sponsored Left really the Left? Or is as phony as the Koch Brothers’ sponsored Tea Party organizations?

    To take this to an extreme, who was Karl Marx’ corporate sponsor?

  154. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    If illegal alien Arab/Islamists start specifically targeting American Jewish people/institutions this might change things, but maybe even that wouldn’t change the vicious hatred the Michelle Goldbergs have for White European Americans.

    So much of this animus is caused by Jewish men going overwhelmingly for attractive White Nordic women, Shiksas like Ivanka Trump. Jewish women are passed over and are deeply resentful. Perhaps Steve Sailer can clarify this for us, but was this the motive for that worst ever Rolling Stone Magazine hoax story about White Southern Fraternity boys supposedly gang raping some University of Virginia co-ed as part of a pledge initiation.

    Any updates on the libel suit against Rolling Stone Magazine?

    • Replies: @Flip
    , @Prof Gizmo
    , @Jack D
  155. @Joe Magarac

    Politics in Chicago somewhat support that theory.

  156. @Diversity is Great!

    ” What would happen if they collectively decided to go to black schools?”

    A lot less raped white college women, for one.

  157. Pericles says:
    @prime noticer

    all perspectives in America get represented and heard from.

    Yet it still gives the impression of … an echo chamber.

  158. @TTSSYF

    And many of those other unz bloggers’ comments are of very low quality, silly, or downright evil.

    I occasionally comment here anonymously under different handles, so my comments are (most often) published late or (very rarely) aren’t published at all. But I prefer Sailer’s more careful approach than having to sift through heaps of nonsense and endless personal insults.

    • Disagree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  159. Bubba says:
    @Anon7

    Ex-Palm Beach State Attorney Barry Krischer (who backstabbed the Palm Beach detectives and declined to prosecute fellow tribe member Jeffrey Epstein on serious sex trafficking charges in 2006) was probably handing out voter registration cards to the 1000+ Bahamian refugees as they left the boat in the Port of Palm Beach.

  160. indocon says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I mentioned the concept to a conservative southern white colleague of mine about Marin county liberal whites waging a jihad again development to keep their county empty, and white, in a metro area that has become crowded and non-white, all at the expense of their pocket books, imagine how much more richer all those dairy farmers of Marin be if sub divisions had popped up all over there. I told him that they have behave the same way in places like GA and TX if they want to stay relevant, trade pocket book cash today for future relevance.

    He totally did not get what I was sayin…..

  161. Flip says:
    @ariel

    But South Asians are coming in droves to America. I am amazed at all the Indians walking around Chicago. I don’t think they are all H1B visa holders.

  162. indocon says:
    @Alfa158

    Right now what holds up California is essentially the fact that business worldwide are throwing turn of money at digital advertisement and cloud computing, as long as that keeps going, the current coalition will stay. I don’t know about USA, but California certainly is in that second decade of essentially Mexico PRI rule example.

  163. Flip says:
    @anon

    The PRI in Mexico is probably a good model of what California, and US, politics will look like with the Democrats in full power.

    No Republicans in Chicago either, just racially oriented factions within the Democratic party that divy up the shrinking pie.

  164. Flip says:
    @anonymous

    Rolling Stone paid $1.65 million to the fraternity in 2017.

  165. Bubba says:
    @Hibernian

    It was sandwiched between the east side of Prospect Park and west side of Crown Heights.

    Yep, you are correct. Public housing with the same old depressing story…

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/nyregion/06ebbetts.html?mtrref=www.google.com&gwh=17497F433F870899E0C15D05BA04EAE8&gwt=pay&assetType=REGIWALL

  166. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Cagey Beast

    It took a massive scandal involving the workers’ party in Brazil, leading to the impeachment of a sitting president and the arrest of her predecessor (and later, her successor) to get Bolsonaro elected. Crucially, it took federal law enforcement and a judicial branch more independent and committed to rule of law than ours.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  167. ATBOTL says:
    @Anonymous

    Support for the Palestinians should be a leading issue on the alt-right. That’s the best way to prevent zionist/neocon/boomer subversion. We want our movement to be as toxic as possible for those types.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  168. The Republican party will be finished within 2o years. Between the ignorant entitled millennials, the glut of unskilled (and semi-skilled) labor, technology and latino immigration there is no hope for any kind of political conservatism in USA. The socialist society which will emerge spells d-o-o-m for our country. There is no way around it. Face it, the idea of America is moribund.

  169. Hopscotch says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Trump is average in his abilities, but he understands, more than any other Republican president recently, that you have to take back the judiciary before there is any real change.

    Conservatives were routed for 80 years on this front, with most of the damage coming from Republicans themselves, like Eisenhower, Nixon and Bush Sr.

  170. @anonymous

    All men go overwhelmingly for attractive White Nordic women.

  171. Mr. Anon says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    How is Trump’s remaking of the Republican Party going?

    The country is also very much divided between the Globalist Party and the Nationalist Party. Part of Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton was a victory of a Nationalist over a Globalist.

    IIRC, Trump’s first, immediate priorities after being elected were to do whatever the main GOP Nationalists Paul Ryan and Mitch the Turtle asked him to do:

    Mitch McConnel and Paul Ryan – especially Paul Ryan – are not “nationalists”. Ryan IS a globalist.

    The way the GOP establishment responded to Trump, after his election, was by doing what politicans always do – pretend to agree while actually disagreeing (also known as “lying”).

    Their public pronouncements typically follow this schema:

    Question: What do you think about A

    Answer: I am in full support of A, which I’ve demonstrated by supporting B (not A).

    I.e.:

    Question: Senator Cuckly, how do you respond to criticisms of President Trump’s “American First” policies that they are isolationist and that American disengagement will make us less secure?

    Answer: I fully support President Trump’s emphasis on “America First”. The American people wan “America First”. That’s why I support moving our embassy to Jerusalem and imposting tougher sanctions on Iran.

    More or less the same format can be applied to economic policy, immigration, etc.

    The GOP hijacked Trump’s agenda, gutted it, and used its pelt to dress the same old agenda they’ve been pushing for 70 years. And Trump is too much of an egotistical moron to even notice.

  172. ATBOTL says:
    @prime noticer

    Sounds like the classic NPR show: A Jewish interviewer talking to Jewish author who wrote a book about a Jewish writer whose writings were mostly about Jews.

  173. @Flip

    I know two couples here in NJ who plan to retire in Idaho. They are highly conservative, Republican gunowners, so they will fit in. Don’t know about the Californians.

    Short of a breakup of the USA, we might see massive white flight from the various browning parts of the US. In effect, different people in different regions.

  174. @Neil Templeton

    I think she works for the ADL. Fearing the decline of anti-Semitism in the US, the ADL launched a development program to incite more so that it can continue to justify itself. Michelle Goldberg was given the job of writing columns that would convince the goyim that Jews really despise them and dream of eradicating them from the earth, and so far she’s achieved remarkable results.

  175. dvorak says:
    @Alfa158

    The GOP is already dead here in California.

    It cannot be repeated often enough, that the reason liberal Calif. will never again have a GOP governor while liberal Mass. and Md. have popular GOP governors, is demographics. Non-Whites will NEVER vote for GOP, the White party. Doesn’t matter how liberal the state GOP gets.

    Large numbers of independent Whites, even those that lean liberal, are necessary for a living GOP.

  176. Hopscotch says:
    @Hopscotch

    Also, fwiw, George Orwell fought in the Spanish Civil War. Always thought it would be a great story, juxtaposing the war experiences of Hemingway and Orwell.

  177. Jack D says:
    @bigdicknick

    Goyim is already plural. Goy – singular, goyim – plural. Plurals in Yiddish follow (more or less) German pluralization rules for words of German origin (kind,kinder) but Hebrew words like goy (nation) follow Hebrew pluralization rules.

    Last time I looked, Mexican, Africans, Asians, everybody else, were goyim (since goyim refers to anyone who isn’t Jewish) so I don’t see how replacing white people with them is going to spell the end of the goyims.

    I don’t know what the evil plan of the Joos is (they forgot to put me on the mailing list) but if it is replacing white Christians with non-whites in order to somehow improve the situation of the Joos in America it sure as hell isn’t going to work. The situation that the Jews have in America is perhaps the best deal they have gotten in 2,000 years of diaspora. Despite minor impediments (and most of those receding into the distant past), they have thrived here, so it’s hard to conceive of how replacing John with Jose is really going to make things better for the Jews.

    Maybe it’s some kind of displaced revenge for Zayda being kept out of the country club or a misplaced altruism (too late to help the Jews of Europe but we can help today’s refugee Guatemalans) but if it supposed to be some kind of clever plan for ensuring the (continuing) prominent position of the Jews in America it’s going to backfire bigtime. Ilhan Omar and Ocassional Cortex would like nothing better than to sit in Chuckie Schumer’s chair (in a plus for some of you here, they would like to rid America of “Zionist influence” – they could be your friends if they weren’t Communists too.) I don’t think it’s that – most of the people who advocate this stuff don’t even have children – they have cats. They are not worried about the future situation of their descendants because they don’t have any.

  178. Does anyone here think that National Review, for example, would ever in a million years run a piece titled “Dare We Dream of the End of the Democratic Party?”

  179. Mr. Anon says:
    @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    Your memory comports with mine. People knew about German war atrocities, and understood them for what they were, but didn’t fetishize them. As you say, the exploitation of the Holocaust really took off after that mini-series in 1978, which was probably the purpose of it. Prior to that time, I don’t remember ever hearing the term Holocaust used in that context. It wasn’t in common parlance. It was an exercise in branding.

    It is odd how the entertainment business tries to “educate” people: they try to expose people to the reality of these historical events by showing them what are essentially soap-operas like Roots and Holocaust.

  180. Mr. Anon says:
    @Wishful thinking much

    The US won’t break up anytime soon, at least not in the foreseeable future. It’s far from a lawless place and the US federal government is fully functional and in full control of the US army; do you think they’d yield even an inch of US land to another sovereign state, new or existing?

    They already have.

  181. Jack D says:
    @anonymous

    Have you been locked in box for the last two years, Rip van Anonymous? Didn’t pay your cable bill? Did they turn off the power to your trailer?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/13/business/media/rape-uva-rolling-stone-frat.html

    Rolling Stone to Pay $1.65 Million to Fraternity Over Discredited Rape Story

    I think what is needed is a Just Say No campaign by Shiksa-Americans (include Asian women just to be sure) so that Jewish men are forced to turn back to their dark and hairy cousins, even if they are whiny feminist career women already settled in with their cats. Once all the Jewish girls have their sexual needs fulfilled, they will stop making trouble for the rest of us.

    Jewish Man (Jared) – hey, beautiful shiksa type girl with blond tresses, how ’bout you and me do it? We could have beautiful mischling children and you would share in my ill-gotten slumlord wealth?

    Pure Christian Maiden (Ivanka) – Buzz off Yid, I am saving myself for that Pure Christian Youth who makes $11/hr stocking the shelves at the Wal-Mart. I don’t care if he does a little meth now and then.

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @SFG
    , @Mr. Anon
  182. @Federalist

    I gather the author proposed that if elite black athletes enrolled en masse in HBCUs, it would raise the status of the black colleges and force the NCAA and its power schools to reform their compensation policies toward revenue-generating athletes. I think the end goal is a sustainable realignment of the balance of power among HBCUs and power schools, with a significant uptick in the share of power school athletic profits going to black athletes.

  183. @Paleo Liberal

    How is Trump’s remaking of the Republican Party going?

    I don’t know first-hand. The recent resignations suggest that the Republican Party is shedding everybody who can be taken out by the Democratic Party, which is probably a long term plus for Trump, and there is talk of very serious investigation of the intel op against Trump, but beyond that I don’t know. I lack access.

    Part of Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton was a victory of a Nationalist over a Globalist.

    I’d prefer to phrase it as “Part of Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton was a victory of the US Hinterlands over the US urban areas and the US intellectual establishment (supported by the New England/Yankeedom[1] sociological entity.” Or, in shorter terms, “victory of the countryside over the cities.”
    Trump is a leader, not a deep thinker, and he’s also from the urban areas that he just got through defeating. Trump was clearly surprised at Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS). He did not understand that control of the US Federal Government is what puts food on the table for urban Democrats, and did not anticipate that they would react to him as they would to a mugger [2]. Urban Democrats quite correctly saw Trump as a serious threat to the urban political dominance that funds urban areas in the US and destabilizes the cities’ hinterland

    .
    But for at least the first couple of years, given the choice between being a leader of the Nationalists in this country, and being a cruder Jeb Bush, he went for being a cruder Jeb Bush.

    Trump had little choice but to accommodate the Republican Establishment at first. He was under serious and unexpected attack, was (as it turned out) the object of an intel op even as sitting president, was attacked by a TDS news media. He had to pick his fights and take support where he could get it.
    As far as the trade war goes, I think Trump made a very serious blunder early in his first term. Bernie Sanders offered to work with Trump on trade issues.
    Any attempt to “cooperate” with B. Sanders would have lost Trump his base, and for good reason. The Democrats have established to Trump’s base that they are not agreement capable. Trump’s base would have rejected him as at best a fool had he been taken in by offers of sincere negotiation from somebody not agreement capable.

    The Chinese play a long game. They know they will have some pain the next couple of years. They are counting on a Democrat beating Trump in 2020.

    And the Chinese might win. However, continuing the trade arrangements pre-Trump would continue to impoverish the US hinterland, but would only maintain the egregiously declining urban areas while not reversing their decline. Trump’s base would reject such a policy. Such a policy would also guarantee a long term Chinese win, which is why China want’s Trump’s base to lose its political influence.

    Sorry, but you don’t go into a war of any kind by first cutting off potential allies.

    It is said that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, or at least ally. Not true at all for TDS sufferers. None of the entities mentioned above as possible Trump allies would actually be allies. At best they would be not agreement capable. At worst, they would think of the political system as too small for anybody except themselves, and appear to agree only to lose Trump the support of Trump’s current base.
    A favorite story: After WW I was declared, Imperial Germany sent a military rep to see what, exactly, the Austro-Hungarian Empire could contribute to the war effort. The aide came back and reported “Sir, we are allied with a corpse”. Not all allies are worth having.

    Trump has done a few things differently recently.

    He’s getting his footing, gaining experience and shaking off the surprise. Supposedly a counterattack is next. We’ll see. Even Trump, who thought he was an urban insider, must by now realize that he either winds decisively, leaving a friendly successor, or the TDS people will destroy Trump after he leaves office. The TDS people have said exactly that quite a few times, and elements of NY State government is actively pursuing the project [3]. He has quite a bit riding on a win, so he’s motivated, and now he is starting to get a base in the Federal bureaucracy and the Republican Party, so active defense is finally possible.

    Trump might still lose, of course. Too early to tell.

    IMHO.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Search for Colin Woodward, “American nations”
    2] I saw that first hand, back in the late 1960’s. Woman A’s best woman friend (“B”) was killed by a druggie when she tried to hold on to her groceries outside her front door. The woman displayed something like TDS toward the mugger, recommending death by torture (were it only legal) and founding an ephemeral organization to help those affected by crime. No interest in “root causes” of crime. The woman was a very strong liberal, and became Old Testament in outlook concerning this one case, from which she never did recover before her death two years or so later.
    3] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/11/nyregion/deutsche-bank-trump.html

    • Agree: Prodigal son
  184. BenKenobi says:
    @El Dato

    Ape and Essence was an amazing book.

  185. Jack D says:
    @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    There is a growing realization among White gentiles that, collectively, Jews are an aggressively hostile elite that has been in the forefront of political radicalism and cultural subversion since the 19th Century.

    Really? People have been peddling this exact line for a century or more. Henry Ford wrote “The International Jew” (a big influence on Hitler – thanks for nothing, Henry) 99 years ago. And “White gentiles” are just catching on to this today? It really amazes me that in the age of the cell phone , the satellite, the robot, the self-driving car, that there is nothing new in anti-Semitic technology – you could just cut and paste your shtick right out of Henry’s book. This is like Henry’s own problem with the Model T – the market has moved on to more sophisticated things but you are still peddling the same old simplistic model.

    The reason that (Ashkenazi) Jews are in the in the forefront of political radicalism and cultural subversion is the same reason that they are also in the forefront of Nobel Prize winners and billionaires, etc. – they are a high IQ group so they are going to be disproportionately represented in EVERYTHING in the modern world that requires high IQ.

  186. @Jack D

    Jewish establishment strategy backfired dramatically during the 20th Century”. Every one of their plans failed, some with massive Jewish casualties.

    No reason Jewish establishment strategy should do better in the 21st Century. I know it’s hard to believe, the Jewish establishment being so scholarly and the Jewish community being so successful at business, but the massive importation of Islamic populations and the attempt at political support for economically useless cities has partially failed already, and will continue to fail.

    Perhaps the largest was concentrating Jewish population in Israel, a policy that succeeded just before area weapons were developed that could kill almost everybody in Israel within a half hour. Add to this Israeli support for destabilizing their surrounding territory while some Islamic countries have these area weapons, and you get the impression of a group driven by internal emotional states and tactical advantage to the extreme detriment of its long term strategy.

    sic friatur crustulum.

    Counterinsurgency

  187. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    $1.65 million payment to an entire fraternity seems like a very small fine for arguably the worst case of blood libel in the USA for the past 50 years.

    The City of Chicago paid out way more $ to the deadbeat relatives of Laquan McDonald – the PCP Angel Dust crazy street guy who ran down the street with a large knife threatening to murder people. One cop shot Laquan to death.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  188. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    We did this Farstar cartoon that just “notices” the New York Times women writers who obsess about hating, replacing White American (Mostly men)

    Perhaps Mr. Unz would like to $ pay us to produce a monthly cartoon using humor to oppose the worst, most hateful, humorless New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, Neo Conservative #*$&@#

    https://i0.wp.com/www.occidentaldissent.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/fundamentalists.jpg?resize=1024%2C835

  189. SFG says:
    @Jack D

    I’d rather chill with Lefty and Righty.

  190. @Dave Pinsen

    Hasn’t the “Car Wash” team of prosecutors turned out to be dirty themselves? Isn’t Bolsonaro’s election just another symptom of a deeply dysfunctional society?

    My point was that people like Stanley Greenberg and Michelle Goldberg seem to lack the foresight to realise the Republican Party won’t die off if they get the demographic change they want, it will just become much more like the Brazilian or Filipino law & order parties.

  191. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    It’s funny how often unreflective and tone-deaf you are. Your posts often exude an undisguised hatred for gentiles (i.e., like assuming they are all meth-addicted Walmart employees), and yet you are mystified why people might not trust people like you.

  192. notsaying says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    I am very sorry to hear you have such a lousy medical plan. I didn’t think anything that cheap — and covering so little — was still legal after Obamacare.

    Out of curiosity I looked up average costs for family medical plans and this is what I found. This is for “the most common health plan” so I am sure it’s not for anywhere near the best plan available:

    The total costs for a typical family of four insured by the most common health plan offered by employers will average $28,166 this year [2018], according to the annual Milliman Medical Index.

    That’s up from 2010, when the cost crossed $20,000. Just two years ago, it topped $25,000.

    The estimate includes the average cost of health insurance paid by employers and employees, as well as deductibles and out-of-pocket expenses.

    “But every month, a family of four’s health care costs are going up $100 a month,” Weltz said.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2018/06/06/health-care-costs-price-family-four/676046002/

    $28,166 a year and growing by leaps and bounds. To tie this situation into the discussion of the future of the Republicans, I have to ask: What are the Republicans doing on healthcare? Nothing, really, they don’t want to touch it. They have no proposals for a workable healthcare system because, among other things, they don’t want to get the federal government involved or pass new laws that would make the necessary cuts to pharmaceutical companies and other beneficiaries of the current system.

    There’s no good reasons we spend twice as much as Europe does on healthcare for results that are worse but there are many bad reasons. The Republicans don’t want to face up to that and healthcare isn’t the only issue they duck because they don’t want to deal with it.

  193. istevefan says:
    @Jack D

    The reason that (Ashkenazi) Jews are in the in the forefront of political radicalism and cultural subversion …

    Is this an admission?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  194. Whiskey says: • Website

    Healthcare vis expensive because big illegals. Europe is getting there too.

    But if the coalition of the Ascendant runs every thing, then what do ambitious young White men do? Burn it all down and make themselves the master.

    Go along get along exists for a reason. An incel Joker army is not a recipe for stability.

  195. notsaying says:

    I hate to tell the Republicans here but I also think your party with its current philosophy is in big trouble.

    I think the libertarian idea of a genuinely “small government” is something that most people didn’t really want — they wanted a government who would help them when they needed it but wouldn’t help the other guy. This is not how things work. That’s also how you got all the government subsidies for businesses but a no vote on things for people.

    I think there is definitely a need for a more conservative party than the Democrats but that party will have to be more realistic. People want government services and they also need to pay for them. Since George Bush the Republicans have become the party of cutting taxes and spending more and that is dangerously unsustainable. Younger people aren’t interested in a small government party; in fact, they have a great interest in socialism these days and I don’t blame them. There are a lot of low wages, big debts and unmet needs in America. I think a Republic Party that really took action on immigration would be popular. So far Trump has said all kinds of things — like that we should bring in lots more immigrant workers — and hasn’t done very much. I myself don’t care about the wall so his current push to work on that leaves me cold.

  196. “… indignant Clinton voters, particularly women, so dominated the conversations. …”

    Or if you prefer “screeching harpies who would not shut up and let anyone else talk.”

  197. @notsaying

    Throw the Africans out of the equations, and the US is a much healthier country. Also, one factor not talked about is the European dependence on cheap labor. Germany for a long time didn’t have a minimum wage; so a lot of home health aides and hospital-based workers made even less than Americans did. Also, National Service encourages non-military service to do scut work supporting the medical field. Free labor helps a lot.

  198. @notsaying

    The Republicans don’t want to face up to that and healthcare isn’t the only issue they duck because they don’t want to deal with it.

    Or because they can’t.

  199. eah says:
    @eah

  200. @notsaying

    People want government services and they also need to pay for them.

    Doing that would shut down pretty much every urban center in the West.

    Which is happening anyway [1].

    Socialism can’t solve this. That will become clear when next big problem comes up and the Federal Government can’t solve it with available resources. At that point will come a very significant disenchantment with Socialism among the survivors.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/workers-are-fleeing-big-cities-for-small-onesand-taking-their-jobs-with-them-11567848600
    When cities bring in low cognitive ability and low tolerance of law enforcement into urban areas to maintain urban population, there will come time when the low cognitive ability / low tolerance people will drive other kinds of people out. This will happen sooner if the urban area taxes its citizens in the job force and its remaining companies, or presents a severe public health hazard [2].

    2] Billy Joel’s “My Life” adjusted to 2019
    “I don’t care what you say anymore!
    I’ve got Ty-phus!
    Go ahead with your own life
    You’ve got typhus too!”

  201. @Paleo Liberal

    How is Trump’s remaking of the Republican Party going?

    I don’t know first-hand. The recent resignations suggest that the Republican Party is shedding everybody who can be taken out by the Democratic Party, which is probably a long term plus for Trump, and there is talk of very serious investigation of the intel op against Trump, but beyond that I don’t know. I lack access.

    Part of Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton was a victory of a Nationalist over a Globalist.

    I’d prefer to phrase it as “Part of Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton was a victory of the US Hinterlands over the US urban areas and the US intellectual establishment (supported by the New England/Yankeedom[1] sociological entity.” Or, in shorter terms, “victory of the countryside over the cities.”
    Trump is a leader, not a deep thinker, and he’s also from the urban areas that he just got through defeating. Trump was clearly surprised at Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS). He did not understand that control of the US Federal Government is what puts food on the table for urban Democrats, and did not anticipate that they would react to him as they would to a mugger [2]. Urban Democrats quite correctly saw Trump as a serious threat to the urban political dominance that funds urban areas in the US and destabilizes the cities’ hinterland

    .
    But for at least the first couple of years, given the choice between being a leader of the Nationalists in this country, and being a cruder Jeb Bush, he went for being a cruder Jeb Bush.

    Trump had little choice but to accommodate the Republican Establishment at first. He was under serious and unexpected attack, was (as it turned out) the object of an intel op even as sitting president, was attacked by a TDS news media. He had to pick his fights and take support where he could get it.
    As far as the trade war goes, I think Trump made a very serious blunder early in his first term. Bernie Sanders offered to work with Trump on trade issues.
    Any attempt to “cooperate” with B. Sanders would have lost Trump his base, and for good reason. The Democrats have established to Trump’s base that they are not agreement capable. Trump’s base would have rejected him as at best a fool had he been taken in by offers of sincere negotiation from somebody not agreement capable.

    The Chinese play a long game. They know they will have some pain the next couple of years. They are counting on a Democrat beating Trump in 2020.

    And the Chinese might win. However, continuing the trade arrangements pre-Trump would continue to impoverish the US hinterland, but would only maintain the egregiously declining urban areas while not reversing their decline. Trump’s base would reject such a policy. Such a policy would also guarantee a long term Chinese win, which is why China want’s Trump’s base to lose its political influence.

    Sorry, but you don’t go into a war of any kind by first cutting off potential allies.

    It is said that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, or at least ally. Not true at all for TDS sufferers. None of the entities mentioned above as possible Trump allies would actually be allies. At best they would be not agreement capable. At worst, they would think of the political system as too small for anybody except themselves, and appear to agree only to lose Trump the support of Trump’s current base.
    A favorite story: After WW I was declared, Imperial Germany sent a military rep to see what, exactly, the Austro-Hungarian Empire could contribute to the war effort. The aide came back and reported “Sir, we are allied with a corpse”. Not all allies are worth having.

    Trump has done a few things differently recently.

    He’s getting his footing, gaining experience and shaking off the surprise. Supposedly a counterattack is next. We’ll see. Even Trump, who thought he was an urban insider, must by now realize that he either winds decisively, leaving a friendly successor, or the TDS people will destroy Trump after he leaves office. The TDS people have said exactly that quite a few times, and elements of NY State government is actively pursuing the project [3]. He has quite a bit riding on a win, so he’s motivated, and now he is starting to get a base in the Federal bureaucracy and the Republican Party, so active defense is finally possible.

    Trump might still lose, of course. Too early to tell.

    IMHO.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Search for Colin Woodward, “American nations”
    2] I saw that first hand, back in the late 1960’s. Woman A’s best woman friend (“B”) was killed by a druggie when she tried to hold on to her groceries outside her front door. The woman displayed something like TDS toward the mugger, recommending death by torture (were it only legal) and founding an ephemeral organization to help those affected by crime. No interest in “root causes” of crime. The woman was a very strong liberal, and became Old Testament in outlook concerning this one case, from which she never did recover before her death two years or so later.
    3] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/11/nyregion/deutsche-bank-trump.html

  202. @Not My Economy

    “Muh demographics is a cop out. GOP is operated as a grift first and foremost”

    True enough. The republican party isn’t actually home to its conservative voters, it’s home to the party fatboys and, to a lesser extent, the liberal/cuck politicians who are installed by the party bosses. How else could we see solidly conservative voters flocking to back establishment liberal assholes like Mitt Romney?

    I never understood how conservative working men could fail to notice what a bunch of libtard kooks they were voting for. It’s a huge grift, indeed.

  203. Hans says:
    @Bragadocious

    I think Bush I’s failure to take out Saddam in the (((Gulf War))) earned him his ticket out of the (((White House))). (((The media))) waged the Wimp Campaign against him, but he refused the bait. Cheerleader Bush was supposedly incensed but bent over for the agenda when “fire the caused free fall collapse of buildings, for the first and only time in the history of physics, in New York”.

    No doubt, The Incubator Baby Lie War was meant to get the ball rolling on Israel’s Oded Yinon Plan of using the U.S, to regime change the Middle East. Set the little devils back a decade.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

    “Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel’s targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel…Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. ” (<- enter Groping Joe Biden and his "Biden" Plan for Iraq)

    4-Year Study Proves Official 9/11 Narrative a Complete Crock – https://www.ae911truth.org/wtc7

    "Until we demand an independent, honest, and thorough investigation and accountability for those whose action and inaction led to those events and the cover-up, our republic and our Constitution remain in the gravest danger.” – Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps, 300 combat missions flown. Decorations include the Distinguished Flying Cross and 32 awards of the Air Medal.

    "When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt — to melt — the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know? " – Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 – 1984, commanding 15,000 intelligence and security personnel. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence.

  204. John_cage says:
    @Jack D

    Fictitious drivel. Clearly jews are a hostile minority driven by fear not of whites but of large homogeneous blocks potentially aligned against them. This belief is derived from an understanding of how pogroms form from their history. Aharon Barak, the Israeli Supreme Court President has written extensively on the motivations for multiculturalism referencing his own childhood in the ghettos of Lithuania during the second world war.

    Mixed populations makes collective action difficult. Its a safety valve.

  205. @Jack D

    Jews are also highly clannish.

    Our forebears in the 1920s and 1930s were well aware of what many Jews were up to — Hillaire Belloc’s book The Jews was discussed a short while ago on this website — but facing reality fell out of favor after the War. Can’t be prejudiced, you know.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  206. Jack D says:
    @istevefan

    There’s nothing to admit. As I said before, Jews have been overrepresented in EVERY g loaded task for the last 100 years (unless they are actively excluded). This includes OTOH being among the leaders of the Cheka and of modern feminism (but I repeat myself) but OTOH finding life saving vaccines and war ending wonder weapons. I don’t think this is seriously in dispute.

  207. @notsaying

    I noticed back in the days of Reagan, when getting the Federal Budget under control was a major issue, most people didn’t have a problem with socialism when it benefited them or when it was something they approved of. They only had a problem with socialism when it didn’t benefit them or it was something they disapproved of.

    The best way to fight socialism is with good jobs – then people won’t turn to the government to make up the difference. One way is to shut down immigration, legal and illegal. Wages will rise and the price of housing will stabilize or even drop due to lessened demand.

    The Greek Philosopher Plato observed in The Republic (Chapter 7) that one of the characteristics of a tyrant is that he will deliberately impoverish the people so as to make them more dependent on him. That’s the modern day Deep State in a nutshell. Offer the population bread and circuses – keep them feed and keep them entertained and they won’t rebel.

  208. Jack D says:
    @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    Those damn Nazis sure gave anti-Semitism a bad name. If it wasn’t for them, genteel (gentile?) anti-Semitism could have gone on as before. Nothing like genocide to discredit your cause. It seems like the Nazi effect may be wearing off but they tainted anti-Semitism for a good 70 years.

  209. The reason that (Ashkenazi) Jews are in the in the forefront of political radicalism and cultural subversion is the same reason that they are also in the forefront of Nobel Prize winners and billionaires, etc. – they are a high IQ group so they are going to be disproportionately represented in EVERYTHING in the modern world that requires high IQ.

    Jack, you’ve peddled this line several times before. But if you really mean *The* reason, then it’s absolute nonsense.

    And you know it’s nonsense. All you have to do is control for IQ. Query for levels of radicalism and cultural subversion among 150, 140, 130, 120, 110, 100 IQ white guys vs. Jews. Or even–extremely generous to your thesis–among profession. Gentile vs. Jewish college professors, lawyers, doctors, businessmen.

    The Republican party was traditionally the home of the better educated, more successful white gentiles–the ones most closely matching Jews in IQ. The Republicans always carried the college educated vote. But, suffice it to say, the Jews did not lean Republican, their behavior was radically different. Now, this difference has clearly eroded in the last generation as the Jews have successfully “Judaized” both the American economy and socio-politically large tranches of the gentiles. But even now there’s still a considerable divergence.

    It’s easy to spot several causal agents:

    1) Orientation toward looting vs. production, managerialism vs. republicanism.
    Most Ashkenazim were involved in trade or finance. But also–my understanding, no student of your people’s history–especially in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, as tax farmers, managers, bureaucrats. This orientation is still very clear, and shows up in both occupational choice–engineer vs. lawyer–and political orientation–managerial state vs. republic.

    Simply put Jews are about as far socio-economically from Jefferson’s “yeoman farmer” ideal as you can get. Jews are leftist big-staters both from
    a) economic interest–they naturally gravitate to/occupy “take a slice” (lawyer, bureaucrat) sinecures of the managerial state.
    b) they simply don’t believe in their bones that the common people–the hicks and the sticks–really should be making decisions that “smarter” people–like themselves!–should be making.

    For example i find the Supreme Court making all these obviously political decisions *viscerally* offensive. At the “who the f*$& are you?” republican level. I think most Jews are not only ok with it, they prefer the idea of say Ruth Bader Ginsburg making decisions to letting Joe Bob vote.

    2) Anti-Christianity
    For historical and theological and tribal reasons Jews are highly anti-Christian. Any (traditional) religion is in some sense “on the right” in that the key function of religion in a society is to create and propagandize the norms–“this is how we do things”–that allow the society to smoothly function.

    So Jews desire to bash away at Christianity, dovetails with leftist wrecking. And this has had a tendency to strengthen in a feedback loop, as the more wrecking that was done, the more religious Christians were aligning on the “right”, resisting the wrecking on explicitly religious–i.e. Christian–grounds. Only in about the last generation have we seen some Orthodox Jews joining them as the leftist wrecking started battering not just at Christian culture/tradition/norms, but attacking basic civilizational norms like marriage that religious Jews hold deeply as well.

    3) Balkanization
    A weak host is easier to penetrate than a strong host. As a middle-man minority, (non-Israeli) Jews have to penetrate and operate in someone else’s nation. That process is simply a lot easier if the host nation is weak and balkanized than if it is a strong, coherent one-people nation with a proud sense of itself.

    It was easier to operate in say the Ottoman Empire than it is in Japan. It is easier to operate in an America that’s a confused melange of whites, blacks, Mexicans, Chinese, Jews, Indians, Fillipinos, etc. etc. or of Protestants, Catholics, Jews, Mormons, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, atheists, agnostics, unaffiliated etc. etc. than it is an nation that 90% white Christians, strong, self-confident and culturally dominant.

    Jews–including a bunch of commenters here–seem to be in utter denial of this rather obvious–game theory 101 level–point.

    But it is obvious that a large number of Jews a viscerally committed to balkanizing America and other nations of the West. Though attacking, bad-mouthing, breaking the nation’s traditions, culture, sense-of-self and pride but most effectively and directly through immigrationism.

    ~~

    There. That’s 3 solid reasons for the Jew/white-gentile political divergence, which holds up a lot better than “Jews are subversives because high IQ people are subversives”. Especially when historically there has been a wide gap in Jewish/white-gentile political orientation even among the college educated and high IQ.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Alden
  210. Lot says:
    @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    “For the most part, non-Whites are either indifferent to Israel while some sympathize with the Palestinians”

    The Muslims and college minority SJWs don’t like Israel.

    Southern blacks, Hispanic evangelicals, and NE Asians are very positive on Israel and negative on Muslims.

    Regular hispanics of the Catholic or secular type don’t have strong views but generally have positive views of Jews as a race and are happy if they ever find out they have Sephardi ancestry.

    • Replies: @Alden
  211. @Jack D

    I don’t think this is seriously in dispute.

    When information control is nearly complete, everything except personal observation is in dispute. This general agnosticism (about the validity of knowledge) becomes unavoidable when obvious deception becomes unavoidable, as it is foolish to think that one can always or even often see through professional deception.

    So: were Jews really the leaders of intellectual pursuits? I’ve never actually seen one that was; I’ve seen a _lot_ of Jewish phonies though. My answer: I have no idea, and if I cared about a particular case, I’d have to research that case through personal contact.

    Counterintelligence

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  212. peterike says:
    @Jack D

    Henry Ford wrote “The International Jew” (a big influence on Hitler – thanks for nothing, Henry)

    Henry Ford: the original noticer.

  213. Anonymous[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Henry would have kept making Model T’s until the company died if he had been allowed to. The Model A was a great improvement but the die had been cast: Ford was number two behind GM and never recovered.

    Ford still hasn’t learned key lessons from that.

    Ashkenazi Jews are on average smarter than white people, who are in turn smarter than blacks and Mesoamericans. Does that give them the right to rule over them and inhibit them from self improvement?

    Ashkenazim are products of eugenic breeding. I’m pro eugenics. Whites have as much right to breed ourselves better as Jews do. We should aggressively sterilize the stupid, the criminal, the destructive. We should create incentives for smart women to birth smart children in stable, good homes. And keep the herd birthworthy. Smart women with man-pelvis or other issues may want to stay barren does. C sections should be considered trailer park and home birth prestigious.

    • Replies: @Flip
    , @Moses
  214. @Inquiring Mind

    Yamaha named one of their motorcycles Virago. Which one of your definitions do you think applied?

  215. Lot says:
    @AnotherDad

    “For example i find the Supreme Court making all these obviously political decisions *viscerally* offensive.”

    So what should it be doing then? It should enforce laws it views as contrary to the Constitution? Which itself contains a lot of vague terms that have to be applied to facts on the ground: “Privileges and immunities,” “due process,” “welfare” “necessary and proper.”

    Seems to me the powerful-judge/common law system works better than the alternatives.

    As for your larger point, the various cases against the Jews are always highly inconsistent with each other. They are communists and capitalists (depending on which one the antisemite dislikes more). They are warmongers if the war is unpopular, but undermine the war effort when it is popular. Jews are white if you’re a black antisemite, they are non-white if you’re a white antisemite.

    Anyway, as usual, I don’t dispute the fact that 20th century Jewish communists and Cultural Marxists were awful, and both of these movements were disproportionately Jewish even controlling for IQ and living near large “influencer cities” like New York.

    Where you’ve never been convincing is if there are any timeless lessons or conclusions to be drawn, as well as the prudential value of dividing the dwindling white population with such touchy speculations. Indeed, one large lesson of history is that antisemitism is usually not prudent.

    • Agree: Jack D, Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @bigdicknick
  216. Travis says:
    @Clifford Brown

    It will take more than 30 years to reach your scenario. We still have enough whites to prevent such a quick fall. Mexican demographics have always lacked enough whites to have a thriving republic. Whites will still be close to 50% of the population in 30 years, while in Mexico whites have never exceeded 20% of their population. The scenario you have described may arrive in another 50 years when whites are less than 33% of the population.

    Mexico , since its beginning, had a very small white minority.
    In 1800 the Mexican population was 16% white (1 million Whites, 5 million Non-whites)
    In 1800 the US population was 80% White (5 million Whites, 1 Million Non-whites)

    in 1900 the Mexican population was 12 million , but just 14% white (less white than in 1800)
    in 1900 the US population was 76 million and 90% White. (more white than in 1800)

    The current population of Mexico is 125 million, but just 20 million White Hispanics.
    The current population of America is 330 million with 200 million non-hispanic Whites.

    So The United States will continue to have a significant white population in 30 years, probably around 45% of the Population , which is still more than double the share of Whites in Mexico. And the typical “white” Mexican is actually genetically just 89% European. while the typical White American is genetically 98% European.

  217. @Jack D

    There is no “evil plan,” just ethnocentrism. Jews are insanely powerful in the US. Hence why our greatest ally can commit war crimes against our sailors and we still provide them with billions in gibs per year. A tiny minority has outsized influence and thinks of themselves first and others last, if at all.

    Why do they think this is a good idea? Pretty simple: white people =nazis. No more power for whites = no more nazis. Open borders = beat the nazis.

    It’s pretty obvious its motivated by ethnic hate when you see someone shilling for Greatest Ally (TM) who also favors mass gimmiegration i.e. probably a plurality if not outright majority of jews. How can you support open borders for thee and barbed wire fences and live ammunition on Tweens for me? The answer is, it isn’t motivated by universal morality.

    • Agree: Prodigal son
  218. @Diversity is Great!

    Miss Hill wants segregated schools and segregated neighborhoods. Not a bad idea , allow people to escape forced diversity and live among their own kind. Freedom of association. We need to add this freedom to our constitution.

  219. @Skyler_the_Weird

    The current brand of extremist Democrat socialists will take a lesson from Fidel, once in power, stay in power, by all the means at their disposal.

  220. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    all we hear from White Cons is “Israel, Israel, Israel.” Pathetic. Such fools must die.

    I completely agree.

    The version with Iggy Pop is better but has been purged from the net, apparently. Big LMM calls him “the finest human being in the world” even though he is quite the carnivore. I guess meat is OK if you have enough of it (she talks bout his bejingledness in her bio even, though they did not apparently ‘do it’.)

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  221. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Ashkenazim are smarter but their IQ spread is narrower, and that combined with their small numbers means most really, really smart people are not Jews. jews combine high IQ with aggressive ethnic networking and the natural instincts to completely take over key channels of distribution of select goods and services.

    You have to admire then in some wys but also face the fact that they must be stood up to or they’ll wreck your nation.

    I’m starting by always responding to accusations of ‘Anti-Semitism” by responding, “Are you accusing me of hating Arabs? ” Arabs are unquestionably Semites and there are, as Billy Carter said, a lot more Arabs than Jews.

  222. @Suburban Dad

    They won’t. Lots of white think their dispossession or death is a good thing, especially young ones.

  223. KR says:
    @Jack D

    You’re all wrong. Jews didn’t have noticeably higher IQ until the 20th century.

    Did they breed with Germans?


    In Israel, a couple years ago, I was stunned at the number of blondes with blue eyes … speaking Hebrew. Obviously, the Semitic admixture in them is minuscule.

    What I found so interesting, though, is that even though I am a very pale, tall Nordic/Brit woman, Jews weren’t sure if I was one of them. In restaurants, for example, servers quickly decide to speak English or Hebrew to customers — when they looked at me, I saw quizzical expressions … yid or not-yid?

    This never happened in past in either Jerusalem or Tel Aviv.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  224. @nsa

    “What happens, say 20 years from now, when the “non-white majority” decides the jew has too much power?”

    That’s easy….we all crack out the champagne.

    You assume it will be legal.

    https://www.whyislam.org/faqs/restrictions-in-islam/why-does-islam-prohibit-the-consumption-of-alcohol/

    http://www.scienceinhinduism.com/2014/07/why-drinking-is-sin.html

    https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Guru_Granth_Sahib_on_alcohol

    https://www.learnreligions.com/the-fifth-buddhist-precept-450104

    https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-03-23/conversion-mexican-villages-evangelical-shift

    “O ye who believe ! Strong drinks and games of chance and idols and divining of arrows are only an infamy of Satan’s handiwork. Leave it aside in order that ye may succeed. Satan seeketh only to cast among you enmity and hatred by means of strong drink and games of chance, and turn you from remembrance of Allah and from (His) worship. So will ye not then abstain?”
    Al-Qur’an 5:90-91

  225. Dani says:
    @Anonymous

    YouGov is not reliable and I do not believe their polls for a second – right up there with Gallup polls. Give me a damned break. Most black people don’t even know Jews aren’t “white” – no way in hell. Though I’m sure they included any admitted Jews in their “white” numbers to keep them down, allowing for “blacks” to tower over “whites” in the brains department? How could you even post that drivel? Shame, shame.

  226. Anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Redneck farmer

    You mean like the ANC recently with it’s campaign against ‘white monopoly capital’? That didn’t work out too well for them as I recall.

  227. The assertion that Proposition 187 killed the GOP in CA in the one of the biggest pieces of Fake News ever put forth by the MSM. It wasn’t the passage of Propostion 187 that killed the GOP in CA but the massive imflux of millions of Mexicans and other Latin Americans and the subsequent outflow of millions of Republican-leaning, mostly white, native-born Americans from the state.

    The much maligned Proposition 187 handily passed, winning 59%-41%, with even a majority of blacks and Asians supporting the measure.

    The only reason this perfectly Constitutional, democratically approved referendum was never implemented is because South African-born Peter Schey, the self-descibed son of a Jewish communist, got a Jimmy Carter appointed judge named Mariana Pflaezer (husband’s surname Rothman, btw) to issue an injunction against it being enforced. She then intentionally kept the measure bogged-down in her court until Democrat Gray Davis took office and had the measure recinded in “mediation.”

    So this is the sickening story of how a district court judge was allowed to wreck the most populous state in the nation. Pflaezer died a few years back but characters in like Schey and Davis still roam the streets as free men.

  228. @Lot

    “the various cases against the Jews are always highly inconsistent with each other. ”

    Inconsistent how? They are consistent with a group acting in its perceived self interest. That’s like saying Schumer is inconsistent about walls. He isn’t. He is in favor of walls protecting people like him. If the wall protects people unlike him he is against it. There’s no inconsistency just favoritism.

    So jews are for open borders and will ruthlessly defend borders at any cost. It just depends who is on the other side of the border. People who notice this are not contradicting themselves.

  229. Alden says:
    @AnotherDad

    Completely agree great post. BTW the local weekly Jewish magazine hasn’t mentioned Jeffrey Epstein once since he was arrested in July.

    Hundreds of researchers worked on a Polio vaccine. If Dr Salk hadn’t found it someone else would have. His vaccine was the result of a 60 year fight against polio by the entire medical establishment

    • Replies: @Moses
    , @Anonymous
  230. Alden says:
    @Lot

    You don’t know many Hispanic maids who work for Jewish women do you? They’re not prejudiced, they’re post judiced

  231. Flip says:
    @Anonymous

    Henry would have kept making Model T’s until the company died if he had been allowed to. The Model A was a great improvement but the die had been cast: Ford was number two behind GM and never recovered.

    Ford still hasn’t learned key lessons from that.

    GM went bankrupt, wiping out the shareholders but the Fords are still rich.

  232. Jim Given says:

    ” … Here’s another application for a gun permit … ”

    Lets see, this is a woman journalist who hasn’t slept in a LONG time because she’s so consumed with obsessive hatred of the President. She advocates hatred as the country’s best hope!

    ” … Sure, give her a gun permit! What could go wrong?”

    Imagine a remake of the movie “Taxi Driver”, but starring Jodi Foster, a veteran of a bloody Presidential campaign, who takes up driving cabs all night long because she can’t sleep-

  233. @Ron Mexico

    Ron Mexico wrote to me:

    Hegelian Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis, but always downward and degrading. Entropy for the USA. And to think, we have it better than other countries.

    Yeah. I sometimes think that if people could simply understand that human life and human society are constant struggles against entropy, maybe the situation could be saved.

    Or maybe understanding the idea of “regression to the mean” would suffice: i.e., if you’ve got it good today, it will not be as good tomorrow, unless you strive really hard.

    Maybe some future society in which most people are scientifically literate will “get it.” As to our own society, it’s not lookin’ good.

  234. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    I’ve known a few Jews who really were “all that and a bag of chips” in their field and a lot more bullshit artists and phonies. I don’t hate Jews. I even admire some of them.

    But they can’t be allowed to wreck our civilization.

    Full stop.

  235. Hunsdon says:
    @Jack D

    What have you done with the real Jack D?

  236. Hunsdon says:
    @Colin Wright

    Wasn’t it Trotsky who made that quip about how you might be not be interested in war, but war is interested in you?

  237. nymom says:

    Maybe the GOP will be over but I don’t see it as a victory for the Democrats necessarily as Independent/Unaffiliated voters are now almost a third of the electorate. Perhaps we will become like many countries in Europe where parties get like 28% or 30% of the electorate and to get anything done have to make alliances with others left of center or right of center whatever…

    Sadly the GOP let its voters down many times after winning the Presidency and both houses of Congress so I won’t be too sad to see them go…they were becoming ‘wobbly’ as Mrs. Thatcher told Bush…and it showed.

  238. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    When I was little, we knew about concentration camps and Ann Frank, but that was about it.

    Me too. I don’t ever recall hearing the word ‘holocaust’ in that sense until after I had graduated from college. I thought it just meant a hell of a fire.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  239. @Peterike

    Or they could, say, go get a drivers license, which will register them to vote automatically, then go vote because there are no ID checks of any kind.

    But what do you need to get a driver’s license? In my state, Florida, as part of the REAL ID Act of 2005, there are documentation requirements for residents renewing or obtaining a new driver license or ID card. For the first in-office issuance after January 1, 2010, customers must bring original documents that validate their identity, Social Security Number (SSN) and residential address.

    Although various payroll documents are accepted as proof of SS#, this information must be verified via electronically querying the Social Security On-Line Verification (SSOLV) database managed by the Social Security Administration.

    It is also illegal to apply for voter registration when you are not a citizen, and the vast majority of those who aspire to citizenship do not want to jeopardize their chances of completing qualification by doing something so stupid and pointless when even getting a traffic ticket can slow the process.

    But quite honestly, what more can you do to verify the right to vote, since even birth certificates can be forged, and native born Americans have only birth certificates and social numbers as the fundamental forms of identification? I personally have a Certificate of Citizenship with my photo on it, issued with a raised seal by the US Department of State, which probably trumps what most people who post here can produce.

  240. Conservatives, get out and VOTE next year, not just in the Nov. general election but in your party primaries! Vote OUT and GOP’er reeking of RINO Stink!

  241. TTSSYF says:
    @Glad it's not happening here

    There are still plenty of personal insults on Sailer’s blog. Of course, if you see this reply, it will be at least 24-48 hours from now.

  242. @Whiskey

    Actually, nonwhite women (often married or cohabiting with white men) run the Democratic party now. I thought everybody was aware of this?

  243. @notsaying

    I am very sorry to hear you have such a lousy medical plan. I didn’t think anything that cheap — and covering so little — was still legal after Obamacare.

    I would say that our insurance is about average. It comes with my wife’s work and is with a company called CIGNA. It is not even the cheapest insurance plan, but like all the others it has the copays and deductible thing, that makes it effectively worthless.

    For example, in my town, the copay for the cheapest Cigna in-network medical practice that accepts children is $85, however if my daughter needs a prescription for antibiotics for a sore throat or tonsillitis, or a sick note for school, then I can go to the Minute Clinic at the CVS pharmacy and pay $75 for her to be seen without using the insurance, or take here to the county rural health clinic, which charges $50 without insurance.

    You would think that any basic health insurance plan would pay for a child to have a few visits to the doctor a year to get a prescription and an instant strep throat test, otherwise what is the point of having insurance?

    All the Obamacare plans seem to be a complete rip-off, just a kind of mandatory bankruptcy insurance that MIGHT prevent you from having to file for bankruptcy if a family member had a serious illness and you wanted to keep your house.

    A large part of why I voted for Trump was his insistence that he would repeal Obamacare and replace it with something a lot better. We all know how that turned out.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  244. Moses says:
    @Jack D

    I don’t know what the evil plan of the Joos is (they forgot to put me on the mailing list) but if it is replacing white Christians with non-whites in order to somehow improve the situation of the Joos in America it sure as hell isn’t going to work. The situation that the Jews have in America is perhaps the best deal they have gotten in 2,000 years of diaspora.

    I believe you, Jack. Muslim and general 3rd world overrun of the USA will not improve the lot of the Jews.

    So why do Jews push 3rd world immigration to USA at every turn, incessantly?

    Exhibit A: Endless Jew kvetching about 1924 laws restricting immigration to Europeans.
    Exhibit B: Hart Cellar Immigration Act of 1965 pushed by Jewish groups.
    Exhibit C: Endless tweets and “news” articles from Jews haranguing “fellow White people” about “White privilege” etc etc (lol did you see the White goy who joined a Synagogue pretending to be a “Fellow Jew”? Jews lost their sh*t over that)

    It doesn’t matter why Jews push policies day-in, day-out that weaken White demographics in America.

    All that matters is that they do it. The outcome is the same regardless of the “why.”

  245. Moses says:
    @Anonymous

    Ashkenazim are products of eugenic breeding.

    Yes. Judaism encourages abortion of fetuses exhibiting any defect whatsoever. I’m not judging. A good case can be made for eugenics.

    Might explain why Jews push abortion rights so strongly.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Dissident
  246. MEH 0910 says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    send the Ryan/ McConnell nominees to the Supreme Court, etc. Even Ann Coulter pointed this out.

    Brett Kavanaugh was Ann Coulter’s favored pick for Supreme Court.

  247. Moses says:
    @Anonymous

    jews combine high IQ with aggressive ethnic networking and the natural instincts to completely take over key channels of distribution of select goods and services.

    Yes. If you’ve ever done business with Jews you know they generally prefer to hire/work with other Jews. And they are aggressive and determined as hell (Terminator-like, even). I respect them for that. The clannishness and ethnocentrism, not so much (live and let live though — let them be clannish, exclusionary and ethnocentric in their own country).

    I’m starting by always responding to accusations of ‘Anti-Semitism” by responding, “Are you accusing me of hating Arabs? ” Arabs are unquestionably Semites and there are, as Billy Carter said, a lot more Arabs than Jews.

    I always thought the term “anti-Semitic” was created by Jews specifically to obfuscate and refocus away from the real issue. Clever word-play. “Anti-Jew” is far clearer, and doesn’t include other Semitic peoples who are not Jewish.

    You might respond “I think you mean ‘Anti-Jewish’, right? Let’s talk about that” and steer the conversation to Jewish behavior.

  248. Moses says:
    @Alden

    Hundreds of researchers worked on a Polio vaccine. If Dr Salk hadn’t found it someone else would have. His vaccine was the result of a 60 year fight against polio by the entire medical establishment

    Fair enough, but no need to be mean. Give Dr Salk his due. He was the one to discover it.

    Reminds me of an anecdote with Paul Simon. Some critics disparaged an album of his featuring heavy African influence, saying “Anyone could have done that.” Simon responded “Sure, maybe anyone could have done that. But I did do it.

    Or how people excuse sports losses, saying “We should have won!”

    All that matters is results.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  249. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Moses

    I wouldn’t want me to have been a Downs kid or otherwise birth defected to the point of being a freak or a liability on society. So by the old Golden Rule, I can’t oppose terminating them before they even have any self consciousness.

    I once worked at a place where we had in upper management a woman with only one hand. She was birth defect missing it. But she seemed perfectly functional and as hard to believe as it seems made runner up in the Miss America, or maybe it was Miss USA pageant. (Can’t remember.) I would hesitate to say this would be a better world if she hadn’t been born. She seems to be having a successful career now.

    There was another woman though that was nationally famous that had two badly deformed hands. She had a kid and the kid had the same defect and she had another knowing it could also, and it did. She should have been spayed. I know that sounds cruel, but to deliberately conceive a kid with such handicaps is irresponsible in the extreme.

  250. Dissident says:
    @Moses

    Yes. Judaism encourages abortion of fetuses exhibiting any defect whatsoever.

    That is absolutely untrue. The only cases where Judaic law (halakha) permits abortion are those where risk to the mother’s life or a severe enough risk to her health are involved. Anyone who had any familiarity with an Orthodox Jewish community would know of one or more couples who gave birth to a child with severe defects despite having been given the option to abort. I personally know a number of such families. Within the observant Jewish community, there are a number of institutions and special programs for both children as well as adults with severe developmental disabilities, such as Downs Syndrome.

    Might explain why Jews push abortion rights so strongly.

    The Jews who zealously promote abortion rights, just as the Jews who promote “LGBTQ” rights, feminism, smut, and other forms of degeneracy, are not the Jews who practice or even subscribe-to Judaism. (The same is true for at least most of the Jews who zealously promote third-world immigration into the West.) The more Orthodox with regard to religious belief and observance a Jew is, the less likely he is to support any of the signature Woke/Cultural Marxist causes.

    This relevant article mentions Rabbi Yehuda Levin, who has for many decades joined Christians in right-to-life and anti-degeneracy campaigns, and served as a co-chair of Patrick J. Buchanan’s 1996 bid for the GOP Presidential nomination.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  251. Dave2 says:

    The Democrats face a far greater demographic problem: Their old white liberal base is contracepting itself out of existence, while their new brown-and-black base is incapable of governing any polity without turning it into another Zimbabwe or Venezuela.

    So the Democrats’ chances of ever dominating a country where a loaf of bread weighs more than the pile of currency needed to purchase it do not look promising.

    https://nationalvanguard.org/2019/01/eating-the-seed-corn/

  252. Anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @KR

    I guess those are Russian Jews? A lot of these people have maybe one Jewish grandparent but were taken in anyway because Israel needs the numbers.

  253. Anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    It was a big deal that a Jew cured polio because one of the old anti-Semitic accusations against Jews was that they were spreaders of the disease.

    (Polio does seem to have increased dramatically in prevalence around the time of the big Jewish immigration from Eastern Europe. It was probably just coincidence though.)

  254. Anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Russians, Poles and other East Europeans still have a sensible attitude to this. They don’t ‘deny’ the holocaust, but they don’t put it front and center of their WWII commemorations either. People who do otherwise are quickly put in their place. It’s just not tolerated.

  255. @Moses

    What did Paul Simon say when people told him that one song on his Graceland album could have been written by Los Lobos?

    • Replies: @Moses
  256. @Arclight

    The “mulish devotion” of Trump voters?

    That was an awkward run of phrase. Mules are not devoted, they’re stubborn. So Goldberg meant “stubborn devotion,” but that doesn’t jibe with mulishness, which is stubborn resistance to something, not devotion to it. “Canine devotion” is what she intended, I think.

  257. Dissident says:
    @Jack D

    The situation that the Jews have in America is perhaps the best deal they have gotten in 2,000 years of diaspora.

    Yes, absolutely, and as a Jew myself, I feel a deep sense of gratitude toward the people that have shown us this extraordinary kindness and hospitality. I have experienced this personally throughout my life, as has my family going back generations. I find the contempt, disdain and scorn for non-Cosmopolitan and especially Christian and traditionalist Whites that has become so prevalent, so in-vogue and, increasingly, so brazen, to be both shocking and abhorrent.

    Maybe it’s some kind of displaced revenge for Zayda being kept out of the country club or a misplaced altruism (too late to help the Jews of Europe but we can help today’s refugee Guatemalans) but if it supposed to be some kind of clever plan for ensuring the (continuing) prominent position of the Jews in America it’s going to backfire bigtime.

    I think the reasons for the disproportionately high support among Jews for immigration are varied and at least often complex. These include reasons such as the following, which I have observed within my family and other Jews I have interacted with.

    – I think one of the primary ones, if not the primary one, are sincere humanitarian feelings. Many Jews sincerely believe the whole “Nation of Immigrants”/ “Zeroth Amendement” narrative. Nearly all American Jews, remember, are at least near-descendants of immigrants who fled hostile (or at least decidedly less hospitable) conditions. Thus many Jews, recognizing how critical America’s welcoming of immigrants was to them personally, feel that it would simply be wrong and even downright hypocritical for them to be the ones to deny what they see as similar opportunity and compassion to others.

    – There are many Jews that, just like many non-Jews of like socio-economic class, benefit in one or more ways economically from immigration.

    – Then there are the no doubt many Jews who (again, along with many non-Jews) regardless of whether immigration in reality helps or may even harm them, believe the propaganda that immigration benefits and is even essential to the economy, etc.

    As for Jews such as Michelle Goldberg, Stanley Greenberg (author of the book M.G. reviews), Brett Stephens, Jennifer Rubin, et al, I will repeat what I have said previously: Their statements and positions are so obnoxiously effective at arousing animosity and resentment toward Jews, that I have to question whether that might not, in fact, be the intent. Likewise for organizations such as the ADL and the $PLC.

    Ilhan Omar and Ocassional Cortex would like nothing better than to sit in Chuckie Schumer’s chair (in a plus for some of you here, they would like to rid America of “Zionist influence” – they could be your friends if they weren’t Communists too.)

    Why do you put Zionist influence in quotes? Does the Zionist State and its lobby not exert immense influence over US politics and policy? Is it not reasonable to at least question that influence, or even to oppose it?

    I very much appreciated John Derbyshire’s take on the Omar affair:
    One Cheer for Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Mogadishupolis)

    An excerpt from the piece that articulates views that I fully agree with:

    Shouting down all talk of group differences with screams of “bigotry!” “prejudice!” “racism!” “antisemitism!” doesn’t help us towards a fairer and more harmonious society, whether the group at issue is Jews, blacks, or Somali Muslims.

    And on one of Ms. Omar’s points, I heartily agree. Dual citizenship is a simply terrible idea.

  258. @anonymous

    True, but blacks are paid off to keep other blacks from burning down the city. It’s a bribe, not compensation.

  259. Trump has hollowed out the G.O.P. It now stands for nothing but “loyalty to Trump”, Republicans no longer feel a need to enforce the Constitution, defend America from foreign interests, or defend Christian morality. Hard to see how a party like that survives Trump’s inevitable and already visible mental decline.
    .

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @William Badwhite
  260. Jack D says:
    @Dissident

    Bbut Moses is an authority on Joos. You can tell from his name. He couldn’t possibly be wrong about this or anything else he says about them.

    How would they have known (back in the day when Jewish law was being formulated) whether a fetus exhibited defects and thus could be aborted? In the old days (i.e. until recently) you didn’t know what you were getting until the baby came out.

    • Replies: @Moses
  261. @BB753

    I predict Trump will win again in 2020. But he will be the last Republican POTUS.

    I totally get why you’d think that. But here’s an alternative scenario that I think is perhaps more likely: Trump does get re-elected in 2020, and the Democrats win in 2024…but the ridiculous policies of the “woke” socialist-left turn out to be so disastrous & unpopular, that the Democrats are relegated to a single term.

    2028 is the year that the Coalition of the Fringes begins to come apart (actually, that process begins about a week after the 2024 election), and the GOP cracks 25 percent among Blacks (for example). Probably breaks 30 percent, would be my guess, garnering about a 1/3rd of the Black vote.

  262. Moses says:
    @Jack D

    Aww shucks Jack thanks.

    I learned the whole Torah in the womb, Fellow Jews. But when I was born an angel touched my mouth and I forgot it all.

    Now I just know what I read in Haaretz.

    The Abortion Conundrum: How Far Israelis Go to Make Sure Their Babies Are Born Perfect
    What do parents do if they discover the baby could be born deaf? Or sterile? Or suffer from a disease? Israelis choose to terminate such pregnancies much more frequently than in other Western countries

    Israelis are Jews, right?

    Anywhere else in the world, physicians would probably not have even raised the abortion option, nor would Yael have done the CMA test. She was in her 23rd week (fifth month) when she heard the results of the tests. In most countries abortions are not performed from the date at which the fetus could theoretically live outside the womb (other than in cases of danger to the mother’s health), and every country defines that point differently. Some countries don’t allow abortions after week 12, others are willing to go as far as week 20 or 24. Israel is one of the few countries in the world where the law explicitly allows termination of pregnancy after week 24 because of potential birth defects.

    Abortion strongly discouraged by Jewish law. Israelis aren’t very good Jews, are they Jack?

    “When I worked in Canada,” Yinon says, “I met an Israeli couple who flew to Israel for an abortion because of Down syndrome.”

    Oy.

    Read the whole thing here: https://www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-the-abortion-conundrum-how-far-israelis-go-to-ensure-their-babies-are-born-perfect-1.7362524

    It’s true that Jewish law prohibits abortion for no reason. It’s also true that Jewish law doesn’t consider the fetus as a person until birth.

    Generally, however, Jewish law does permit and a great many rabbis tend to encourage abortion when birth defects are present.

    I stand by what I said, Fellow Jews.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  263. Jack D says:
    @ATBOTL

    The most important thing for any movement is that you want your adherents to be really really pure. You need to have all sorts of ideological shit tests and make it repulsive to as many people as possible so that only the truly dedicated may join. It’s true that by the time you are done you’re only going to have like 5 members, but they are going to be truly worthy members of your club and not kikes or chinks or anything. Every successful movement has succeeded by limiting their appeal to the smallest number of people possible. Being able to hold the entire party membership in the living room of your trailer is an essential for taking power.

  264. Jack D says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Having the GOP stand for loyalty to Trump is an improvement on the previous situation when it stood for nothing at all except perhaps a lite version of the Democrat’s policies. Democrats : We think that (health care, education, industry, etc.) should be 100% socialized. Republicans: We disagree. We won’t accept more than 80% socialism. Not one drop more.

  265. …California Republicans, fearful of changing demography, campaigned for Proposition 187, a ballot initiative meant to make life miserable for undocumented immigrants.

    Imagine being so childish, that it didn’t occur to you not to characterize Proposition 187 in that manner (“a ballot initiative meant to make life miserable for undocumented immigrants“), while writing for the freakin’ New York Times, no less. Wow. Stunning AND brave!

  266. Moses says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Gud one Steve. You are channeling Johnny Carson with that one. I can hear him deliver it.

  267. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    “Semite” was a polite 19th century way of saying “Jew” which was somewhat of an epithet. In Polish you say “the faith of Moses” instead of “Jew” for the same reason. Anti-semitic always meant “anti-Jewish” from day 1 and never had anything to do with Arabs.

    • Agree: Corn
  268. gig says:

    I Have been amazed for a long time about the derangement of the US elites. They want to:

    – rule the world
    – allow everyone on Earth who wishes so to move to the US

    And it is quite obvious that allowing Central Americans and Africans and Muslims to move in makes America much weaker.

    Manly P. Hall’s books, specially the one above, make it clear how freemasonry derangement explains perfectly what America’s elites are doing

    At what point the Joint Chiefs of Staff realize immigration will make America a much weaker country?

  269. @fnn

    Maybe anti-Religious Right sentiment finally caught up withe the CA GOP in 1992. Also, there was something about the post-Cold War collapse of the aerospace industry.

    The 1992 Presidential was the first national election after the “fall of the Berlin Wall” as the symbolic end of the Cold War.

    I think that opposition to the Soviet Bloc during the Cold War was such an important part of the Republican brand that the loss of the Soviet adversary dealt a serious blow to the party’s purpose in the mind of the public. With voters no longer concerned about nuclear annihilation at the hands of the Soviets, they were free to reject “guns and butter” politics for two helpings of butter.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  270. Andrew says:

    California Republicans last won an outright majority of US House seats and a majority of seats in the Assembly and Senate of the state legislature in 1956.

    The state had a dead even political lean in Presidential elections from 1956 to 1984 (which included 5 favorite/native son elections) and an 5.5% lean to the Democrats in 1988 to 1996. It last leaned GOP long term for President in 1928.

    But sure, it must be immigration/Prop 187/whatever for lack of GOP competitiveness in California, not an inborn predilection of White Left Coasters/Californians to leftism which was remarked on for years from the 1960’s onward in America.

    California’s always been the Land of Fruits and Nuts, not a once GOP paradise now lost.

  271. @Kevin O'Keeffe

    I think that Pres. Trump will be reelected, but the poop hits the fan in 2024-2025. The low-level civil war will continue to worse and will get really bad in the mid-2020s. Possible breakup of the US around 2032. At the very least, massive population moves to different regions and a new form of government in 2032.

    The Pentagon also projects that the US will lose a war to Russia or China. A massive war loss could precipitate a breakup of the US or new form of government or both.

    I foresee eventually the choice will be an authoritarian right-wing government or a totalitarian left-wing.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
  272. ‘Yet rather than modulating their anti-immigrant politics in response, Republicans have little choice but to double down, because so many of their voters are driven by nativism’

    I wish the GOP was a quarter of what the Democrats characterize the party as

  273. Bill says:
    @Redneck farmer

    Ask the Spanish-speakers. They decided the Jews have too much power back in the 15th C.

  274. Bill says:
    @Not My Economy

    GOP has not offered much, and what they have offered, they’ve failed to deliver on.

    Rubbish. The GOP offers lower taxes and lower wages for the benefit of rich people, and they have delivered on that with great consistency.

  275. @Anonymous

    I’m starting by always responding to accusations of ‘Anti-Semitism” by responding, “Are you accusing me of hating Arabs? ”

    I reply to accusations of “anti-semitism”, “racism” or any other “ism” with “Make an argument and we can continue to discuss things. I don’t respond to name-calling”. Sometimes I’ll add “you have atrocious manners”.

    Calling someone various “ism” names is the same as saying “shut up”. Saying “shut up” is rude. Rude people should be calling out in real time for their rudeness.

  276. @Anonymous

    She should have been spayed. I know that sounds cruel, but to deliberately conceive a kid with such handicaps is irresponsible in the extreme.

    I disagree with you on Down’s syndrome kids (they are usually incredibly sweet and loving…yes they’re most likely not going to be able to ever support themselves, but you can say that about whole swaths of our population, indeed all of Baltimore) but I can at least understand your views. But deformed hands? That renders someone incapable of contributing to society in any positive way? Have you ever heard of prosthetics?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  277. @Peter Akuleyev

    Republicans no longer feel a need to enforce the Constitution, defend America from foreign interests, or defend Christian morality.

    Republicans have not, at least in my lifetime, felt a need to do any of these things.

    • Agree: Dissident
  278. Dissident says:
    @Moses

    Commenter Moses proclaims,

    Generally, however, Jewish law does permit and a great many rabbis tend to encourage abortion when birth defects are present.

    From the article you linked-to, with bold-text highlighting of mine:

    Extensive genetic testing is also widespread in the country’s ultra-Orthodox community – where women generally reject abortions – in order to avoid the possibility of offspring with hereditary diseases. For this reason, young Haredi men and women undergo genetic tests even before the matchmaking stage. If one is found to have a genetic anomaly, he or she will likely not be paired with someone with the same problem.

    According to sociologist Yael Hashiloni-Dolev, a member of the National Bioethics Council, the Haredi community makes the most widespread use of genetic technology in the world. “Their position is that it’s necessary to avoid giving birth to children with problems. There are also rabbis who permit abortions in certain cases,” the professor says.

    Note that the majority of Jews in Israel* are secular and do not live their lives according to Judaic law (halakha). HaAretz is known for being a secular, Leftist and even anti-religious publication. The portion of the article I quoted above is the only one** that addresses religious Jews specifically.

    *The Zionist State that has usurped the holy name Israel is a secular state that was established in defiance of a nearly-unanimous consensus of the leading rabbis at the time (who had opposed Zionism, from its inception, in all its forms.)

    **At least in the extensive preview that displays; I do not have the required subscription to view the full-text and I doubt Moses does either).

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
  279. “the ill-begotten battle to stop the New America from governing”

    Wasn’t that called the battle of Little Big Horn?

  280. anonn says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    This purported anti-white party has elected white males Governor in three straight elections now.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  281. nymom says:
    @Diversity is Great!

    Called: Shooting themselves in the foot…

    Football has the highest number of black millionaires in the country…where else can men with not much else going for them except exceptional strength go to make what the average footballer makes which is 900,000 annually…and many make much more.

    Most of that money comes from white men in this country who follow these teams and many of them are in the military or connected to it in some way. I guess these teams stand in for war games of some sort for this crowd…anyway to continue:

    If they continue alienating their base they will someday find themselves playing for smaller crowds, mainly black with lower price ticket sales = translation lesser paychecks for all of them…

    Just thought I would throw it out there.

  282. Anonymous[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Pwoduct wiability insurance should have mandatory copays and coinsurance so companies won’t punk out in court.

  283. BB753 says:
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    “2028 is the year that the Coalition of the Fringes begins to come apart”

    Make it 2038 and I buy your premise. By that time, the share of the white and even black vote would be even smaller.
    Personally, I don’t think it matters : both parties won’t be around forever and will go the way of the Whigs.

  284. Anonymous[664] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    The economy was a mess in 1992. That was the key issue in the election and the main reason for Bush’s loss. Clinton’s main campaign promise was to fix the economy. Everything else was a side issue.

    (Clinton delivered on his promise, which is why in spite of all his personal failings he remained popular and is still fondly remembered today.)

  285. ricpic says:

    “The specter of California haunts the modern right….”

    Shouldn’t the specter of the Michigan-Ohio-Pennsylvania rust belt slipping the Democrat noose haunt the modern left?

  286. @Counterinsurgency

    So it isn’t a surprise that:
    Lawmakers are working legislation to allow Bahamian refugees to stay without visas.

    Biological warfare.

  287. @Kevin O'Keeffe

    policies being disastrous doesn’t doom a government when the country is totally uneducated. Just look at Hugo Chavez he was reasonably popular til the end

  288. Tony says:
    @Anonymous

    You talking about Bree Walker. She did alright for herself. Her kids will probably do alright for themselves too.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  289. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @William Badwhite

    Conceiving someone on purpose when you know they will have debilitationg issues (and her hands were horrendous things) seem wrong on so many levels to me. She should hve adopted or had her husband inseminate a surrogate.

    • Replies: @Marquandian Hero
  290. @billhindaytona

    California’s economy is a a shell game of rent seeking, Hollywood, and Silicon Valley VC bubbles.

    Knock a leg outta that stool and it gets uglier quick. The urban centers are a fucking catastrophe.

  291. @Dissident

    Moses can’t renew his subscription ’cause he can’t figure out his phone. God says He’s not going to help him with it anymore.

  292. Corvinus says:

    “I.e.: Hate trumps Trump.”

    Trump has put himself in this position by those on the Left and the Right, as evident by his perpetual lying on Twitter and his actions leading up to the 2016 Election, and thereafter, that have led to over two dozen investigations of his presidency. But, our dear host will remain cagey by not NOTICING his machinations. Carry on, Mr. Sailer.

  293. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    “She should have been spayed. I know that sounds cruel, but to deliberately conceive a kid with such handicaps is irresponsible in the extreme.”

    Indeed, it is cruel, but it is not irresponsible in the least for the woman to have been born by her mother. Perhaps you should consult the Good Book on such matters before mouthing off.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  294. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    I think that Pres. Trump will be reelected, but the poop hits the fan in 2024-2025. The low-level civil war will continue to worse and will get really bad in the mid-2020s. Possible breakup of the US around 2032. At the very least, massive population moves to different regions and a new form of government in 2032.

    The Pentagon also projects that the US will lose a war to Russia or China. A massive war loss could precipitate a breakup of the US or new form of government or both.

    I foresee eventually the choice will be an authoritarian right-wing government or a totalitarian left-wing.

    Yeah, that all seems depressingly plausible.

  295. MEH 0910 says:

  296. @istevefan

    The Democrats can’t remember ten months ago correctly, and they’re gonna get slaughtered in 2020 at this rate.

    2018 was in no way a “blue wave” and nearly turned into a squeaker for the Dems if not for Paul fucking Ryan and his final act of “please fuck my wife to prove Im not racist”, the refusal to contest any of the 12 or 14 races that were originally called for the Republicans only to LITERALLY have boxes of ballots show up in trunks after polls had closed.

    To describe this as a “Blue Wave” is pure TDS. The last hurrah of the Washington Generals, more like. It’s obvious who the DNC machinery is gearing up behind.

    Nominating Elizabeth Warren as a shriller, more unlikable version of Hillary with her own “Bosnian snipers shot at me!” story on trenbolone (in the form of the native american ancestry) baked into the cake as your candidate?

    Warren is a slightly more lucid Hillary without the ability to take Trump’s digs with a modicum of grace. He’ll say “Okay Pocahantas” and she’ll explode in a way that appeals to AWFLs, their gamma Male orbiters, and no one else.

  297. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Corvy, please cite chapter and verse where it is a good idea to deliberately have children where their lives will be miserable.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  298. MEH 0910 says:
    @Anonymous

    Big LMM

    Anonymous, I can’t recall if you’ve written about it before, why do you call Chrissie Hynde and her daughter Little Miss Muffets?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  299. Anon7 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Sure, I’m fine with helping people “…for a while.”

    Aren’t tens of thousands of refugees from the 2010 earthquake in Haiti still here?

    “Most Haitian TPS [temporary protected status] beneficiaries… are gainfully employed and completely integrated into American life. Seventy-five percent of TPS holders from Haiti report speaking English well, very well, or exclusively. Seventy-one percent completed high school and 37 percent attended college. Eighty-one percent have jobs, with the food service industry being the largest employer among them. And most notably, the estimated 58,000 Haitian TPS beneficiaries have 27,000 American-citizen children.”

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/12/haitian-immigrants-temporary-protected-status-trump/

    Good thing TPS is “temporary”.

    “TPS is a temporary benefit that does not lead to lawful permanent resident status or give any other immigration status.”

    https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/temporary-protected-status

    Whew, that’s a relief.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  300. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tony

    If I were her second kid I’d probably find it very tough to be grateful to her.

    Bree Walker was admirable in how she conducted herself before kids. She took a risk on the first one. They told her if she had others the chances were overwhelming it would be the same way and went ahead anyway. I lost all respect whatsoever for her.

    It’s one thing to overcome adversity oneself, another to knowingly inflict it on others.

    • Replies: @Tony
  301. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910

    The Hyndes, mere et fille are at turns amusing and frustrating.

    Christine Ellen Hynde, who turned 68 two days ago, is the ultimate rock chick (sorry, Debbie, Stevie, Joan,……) but she’s also a maniac who openly says she regards as beneath human dignity anyone who isn’t a vegetarian. She is into Hinduism, a failed religion responsible for great human misery, and is often abusive with fans and fellow musicians alike. (I mean, what did Courtney Love do to her, that she had to say that? Courtney’s nuts, but that’s usually a reason to leave people alone.) That said, she’s a fantastic singer and a pretty good songwriter with a remarkable sense of style. Not much of a guitarist, but besides beefy lesbians like Jennifer Batten how many women are? (Okay, Lita Ford and Orianthi are pretty good. )

    Natalie Ray Hynde, born after I graduated high school, the daughter of Chrissie and Ray Davies

    has nothing to do with music, but she’s a character and has a website and a bunch of youTube videos that are amusing and people watch them, like Bob Ross painting videos, for the lulz.

    [MORE]


    Her knowledge of RF trnsmission is little flaky, but, oh well. ( say that as a FCC General Rqdiotelephone and Amateur Extr licensee with experience on avionics, tube CW and AM transmitters and the legendariest of RF boxes;)

    Hearing such middle class but well enunciated Engishness coming out of someone who came out of someone who came out of Akron is, well, amusing.

    From her website:

    Natalie Hynde

    NUMEROLOGY & TAROT READER

    You are Divine consciousness manifesting as human experience. As Creatrix, Inventor and Master of your own Life-path, you have four ‘ways’ or roads to connect with. These are determined through the numerical value of the letters of your name, and your date of birth.

    Numerology is a science, as formed by the Ancients, for decoding practical knowledge in daily situations, it can give us confidence to make life-choices that are more inspired and fulfilling.

    When we talk about numbers, we are really talking about the vibration and energy of symbols.

    Many of us have attuned ourselves to the rites of passage the culture has provided. We’ve been programmed since birth by mesmirising logos and catchy jingles – subconscious prompts that cause us to inhabit a space of collective somnabulism. In this context, our free-will is compramised. Our unknowable internal drives lead us toward experiences that are less than satisfactory. Many live with a sense of stagnacy and dis-ease. This can mean settling for relationships that don’t honour our full potential, or working in jobs that may be below our ability-level.

    When it becomes habitual, it’s easy to see ourselves as victims of nebulous outside forces. This does not empower us but rather plays directly into the fear/insanity/control mechanism operating out of our unconscious.

    Deconditioning from the consensus reality is the first step towards expanding awareness and uncovering our infinite creative supply.

    I work with Tarot and Numerology to inspire a path to self-healing.

    The focus of my mentorship program is ultimately to reconnect with Source.

    As a skilled Practitioner, I can determine your precise numerical attunement and illuminate life-blocks and obstacles. I am also able to see into ancestral patterns, cultural conditioning and trauma bonds that may be resulting in addiction or mental confusion. Over time, these processes form myelinated pathways in the brain, which can result in unhelpful compulsive behaviours. To get into alignment with one’s divine purpose, I encourage meditation and holistic embodiment practices such as qigong, dance and bioenergetics. I will offer guidance in discovering which practice works best for you.

    Through working with me, you will learn how to ascertain what imbalances may be restricting the flow of energy, so as to allow attention to go to the areas of your life where focus may be lacking.

    She had some videos showing certain level of basedness, e.g., the rapey Rotherham groomers, etc, but these seem to have been squelched. Mum may have had something to do with that. Who knows? After her biography came out, maybe Mumsy is a little sensitive to someone (I don’t know who…..) pointing out correctly the Savitri Devi-ness of some of her comments.

    Dad with some other girl:
    https://i2.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/GettyImages-1171990586.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C809&ssl=1

    • Replies: @donvonburg
  302. @anonn

    This purported anti-white party has elected white males Governor in three straight elections now.

    Jerry Brown was grandfathered in because everyone knew we needed at least one adult in Sacramento.

    Gavin Newsom on the other hand is the perfect opportunistic quisling to carry out an anti-white agenda. He only snuck in because of the incredible political incompetence and disorganization of Southern California Hispanics — who, by numbers alone, would rule the state if they ever started voting. He’ll probably be the last white male governor.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    , @anonn
  303. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910

    My beautifully crafted response was kicked out as spam. I’m flummoxed.

    Briefly, the Hyndes mere et fille are at turns amusing and appalling, especially Chrissie, who is often ignorant as hell to fans.

    She is the ultimate rock chick, but she’s also a freak.

    Natalie has a web site and a bunch of YouTube videos, some of which being of direct interest to iSteve readers-she talked about the Rotherham rapists-are now gone.

    Her videos are a cult item now because to hear such English propriety (spiced with occasional obscenities) out of someone who came out of someone who came out of Akron, Ohio (there is a godawful Akron accent that is about as bad as Pittsburgh) is all the more amusing.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    , @MEH 0910
  304. @Jack D

    The reason that (Ashkenazi) Jews are in the in the forefront of political radicalism and cultural subversion is the same reason that they are also in the forefront of Nobel Prize winners and billionaires, etc. – they are a high IQ group so they are going to be disproportionately represented in EVERYTHING in the modern world that requires high IQ.

    Imagine if they if they had a Nobel Prize in political radicalism and cultural subversion. They’d be a shoo-in every year.

  305. @Anon7

    As Keynes said, in the long run we’ll all be dead . . . but they’ll still be living in America.

  306. MEH 0910 says:
    @Anonymous

    But why appellation “Little Miss Muffet” for that kind of woman? Is that an established nomenclature or your own private slang?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  307. MEH 0910 says:
    @Anonymous

    Chrissie (DOB 9/7/51) just had a birthday:

  308. Anonymous[160] • Disclaimer says:

    She just turned 68. She’s just a kid, the other girls in her musical cohort are older.Christine McVie and Stevie Nicks, Debbie Harry, and several others are all well past 70.

  309. Thea says:

    With some creativity and a strong image the GOP could win many Hispanic votes. Look at Colombia. Or the party could change in a direction we’ve not yet imagined and win over some other group.

    That won’t solve the underlying problem but her fiendishly gleeful assumption of a perpetual one party state is not a done deal.

  310. @Hypnotoad666

    Gavin Newsom on the other hand is the perfect opportunistic quisling to carry out an anti-white agenda.

    He’s also as dumb as a board (feature not bug I suppose). He’ll just do whatever he’s told to do by whoever calls the Dem shots.

  311. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    “Corvy, please cite chapter and verse where it is a good idea to deliberately have children where their lives will be miserable.”

    There is an assumption on your part that their lives are miserable. Moreover, a child is not conceived with the intention for he/she to have a birth defect or have cognitive deficits, whether it be mild or severe. Rather than dwell on what should have been, a number of parents who have “difficult” children unconditionally tend to their needs. True, some mothers and fathers are not up to that task.

    ROMANS 12:16–Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

  312. anon[329] • Disclaimer says:

    Donald Trump got as many white votes in California in 2016 as Ronald Reagan did in 1980, that with 2 million fewer whites in the state in 2016; but Reagan won California while Trump lost it by a huge margin. California was lost to the GOP due to mass migration, into and out of the area. It’s as simple as that. The same fate awaits every red state in the future. Goodbye USA. Think about that as you tie your people’s fate to this sinking ship. You aren’t taking anything back and your aren’t making America great again. Those days are long over. And you sure aren’t talking the Michelle Goldbergs of the world off their ledges.

    “But, our dear host will remain cagey by not NOTICING his machinations. Carry on, Mr. Sailer.”

    What exactly is stopping this troll from getting his own blog? What’s that saying? “Those who can’t do, criticize.”

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  313. Anounder says:
    @Kratoklastes

    lolbertarian nerd twaddle with more of the hatred of nature’s limits. Your kind don’t reproduce in significant numbers. At least compared with Achmed. Tolerate fags and trannies.

    No no, what’ll happen is that either Globohomo continues with degenerate mutts like you chopping your genitals off or Globohomo falls to burning garbage. If we’re lucky, the leftovers take what happens as a sign to reject history from the 1200s onward.

  314. anon[128] • Disclaimer says:

    Michelle Goldberg just unintentionally penned one of the best cases for partition I’ve read in a while. As her masked slipped, she revealed herself and her cohorts as would-be authoritarians who have no problem outright stealing elections through mass immigration and media control. Indeed, they find the prospect “thrilling”. What else would they have no problem with? Here’s a recent headline from Rolling Stone: “The Pentagon Wants More Control Over the News”. Who do you think will be controlling the Pentagon post 2020, or 2024 at the latest? Scary.

    Honestly, it doesn’t make much sense for Red States to stay in this Union as an oppressed minority under the rule of psychopaths like Goldberg here, a bigot who once wrote a book about “the rise of Christian nationalism”, the central premise of which has failed to materialize as religious affiliation plummets; apparently, competence isn’t a requirement for punditry in the US, just ask Max Boot. Red States will have to wake up to this fact sooner or later.

    And don’t kid yourself, either. You aren’t talking the left into behaving themselves. They don’t want that. The proof is the democratic primary. Are they about to nominate a moderate like Tulsi Gabbard or are they poised to nominate a zealot like Elizabeth Warren? No, they banned Gabbard from the debate all together. These guys are getting an early start on authoritarianism. That is what they want. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and they’re about to have all of it – forever. Why would they give it up at the last minute when they are about to win everything? Have groups ever regularly done that in history? You also aren’t getting rid of political correctness either because they aren’t voluntarily giving up their control over you. Once Goldberg gets her “thrilling” wish here, all of your rights will be stripped away. What’s to stop them? Beto wants to send the police door-to-door to steal your guns. He said so himself, publicly and proudly. His fringe idea will be mainstream soon enough.

    In the first several democrat debates, terms like “racism, bigotry, and white supremacy” have been used over 100 times. It doesn’t take a genius to see where this is going. If you think your people’s destiny is wrapped up with the fate of the West, all you’ve done is tie an anchor to their leg; you’ve ensured their demise because you’re too cowardly or ignorant to let the old ways pass. Or maybe you feel a passionate attachment to Americans elsewhere. But that’ self-defeating. It’s like jumping into a fast-moving river to save a drowning man instead of throwing him a line; you endanger both. If you have a friend elsewhere, invite them to live in your new country.

    We’ll have to face the fact that there is no making America great again because there is no more America left. It’s funny how the dissident right snipes at Trump as they tacitly embrace the same logic, the same old self-defeating ways that animate his beliefs. Maybe they hate the guy out of self-loathing.

    I don’t think our situation is analogous to the Eastern Bloc in the waning days of the Soviet Union, either. Those people at least got countries all their own. The situation here is much worse. You may end up a serf in a neofeudalistic, totalitarian society vaguely reminiscent of a cross between modern day South Africa, the Soviet Union, and Medieval Europe. Personally, I think things have gone too far for a soft Brazil-style landing. The racial triumphalism of Goldberg here shows that. In my experience, that’s not something seen much in Brazil, even though that society is very diverse. This is something different and much worse.

    I know this may be hard to accept, especially for older Americans, but your country died a long time ago. It’s over. I think a lot of conservatives are in the bargaining stage now. That’s Trump. A lot of the dissident right is in the anger stage. Acceptance will come. Preferably sooner rather than later because the longer we wait the harder it will be. Ask yourself, what exactly is the benefit of remaining in a country ruled by the likes of Goldberg when you could live in freedom in your own country, making all the rules and winning all the elections?

    After 2020, or 2024 at the latest, there will be no more republican federal judges, so the radical left will control all the branches of government, including the law enforcement agencies, permanently – as Goldberg is “thrilled” about in her article. They’ll control the media, the financial sector, the corporations … everything. That’s a totalitarian state, make no mistake about it. And it’s happening in front of your eyes and you’re doing absolutely nothing about it. They can interpret the laws as they see fit, ban their political enemies (they already are), ruin wrong thinkers, revoke rights of speech and association (redefined as hate) and many other terrible things. Independence is now inevitable if you want to preserve yourselves and your freedoms in relative peace. You owe this empire, represented by the likes of Max Boot, Jennifer Rubin, and Michelle Goldberg, no loyalty. They’ve shown you none.

    What happened to all those patriots who bragged about freedom and liberty back in the day? Do they no longer believe that or were they just lying the whole time? All bark and no bite. I guess it’s like growing up and realizing your childhood hero is now and always was a loser. Sad.

  315. anonn says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Three of the four Democrats in leadership in the Assembly are white males and the fourth is a white woman. This supposedly anti-white party split its presidential primary votes between a white woman and a white man.

    In the last gubernatorial election we had an opportunity to demonstrate how anti-white we were by voting for Villaraigosa or the Asian guy whose name I forget. Every part of the state and every demographic responded by voting for the white man.

    Do you have even one scintilla of evidence that the CA Dem party is anti-white? Or is this just evidence-free whining?

  316. Jonathon Mason said:

    It is actually a huge step from providing shelter for some homeless Bahamian hurricane victims, who would probably prefer to be back home helping to reconstruct their own country, and counting people as Democratic voters, because to become voters, they would first have to apply for permanent residency, which might take a couple of years, and then spend three years on a green card, before they would be eligible to convert to citizenship and vote.

    Comma much?

  317. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910

    I heard Chrissie referred to as “Little Miss Muffett” by someone in the Who crew (I didn’t quite get backstage but I had access to hallways and such, I had a school friend whose dad was a maintenance guy at the facility so we had facility badges but not backstage passes) t the 1980 gig in St. Louis the Pretenders opened up for the Who at. They were more popular and played batter than the Who did that night and apparently the band was pissed.

    The appellation has stuck.

    Anyway referring to them as Big and Little LMM seems apropos. Chrissie is physically bigger than her kid at 5’8″ although still skinny as a rail. A few years ago she was showing a gut bulge that made her look pregnant (if she hadn’t been 60+) but she’s thinned back out nicely. Vegetarianism has aged her face though. Ntalie is 35 or 36 now and is still childfree, but given her history this might be a good thing. She was diagnosed by NHS with half the DSM but now says that was a misdiagnosis. If so there’s time for her to crank one out. I have no idea what her pelvic structure looks like because of how she dresses, but she is even thinner than Mumsy. Chrissie ws pparently to birth her two normally-she does have some nice female hip structure despite her thinness and lack of much of an ass.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  318. @Peterike

    Or they could, say, go get a drivers license, which will register them to vote automatically, then go vote because there are no ID checks of any kind.

    That may be the case in your state, but not in mine (Florida). Obtaining a driver license does not automatically register one to vote, because there is an additional step of applying for voter registration that involves supplying a driver license PLUS a social security number.

    The social security number is then compared to the social security database to see if the number belongs to a citizen. I know this because when my wife obtained her citizenship, she then had to go to the social security office the next week with her certificate of citizenship to have her social security number updated and validated as a citizen, otherwise she would not be able to vote.

    Probably it is easier to register to vote in Lake Wobegon, or wherever it is that you live, but your state really ought to get with the program.

  319. Corvinus says:
    @anon

    Donald Trump got as many white votes in California in 2016 as Ronald Reagan did in 1980, that with 2 million fewer whites in the state in 2016; but Reagan won California while Trump lost it by a huge margin.

    “California was lost to the GOP due to mass migration, into and out of the area. It’s as simple as that.”

    No, it was “lost” because of shifts in ideology.

    “Goodbye USA. Think about that as you tie your people’s fate to this sinking ship.”

    You mean Hello, USA, Revisited.

    “What exactly is stopping this troll from getting his own blog?”

    Actually, I am a regular contributor.

  320. Tony says:
    @Anonymous

    She had the fortitude and mindset to be successful in this world. Her kids could very well inherit that too. She also sets a great example for them. I get your point but her kids are not gonna grow up to be wards of the state. They may not be able to hit cleanup for the Yankees but they can have great, productive lives.

  321. @MEH 0910

    That’s informative about how much I must have paid for concert tickets back in the day: this guy in 1980 paid $11, plus $1 service charge, to see The Who in an arena.

    Funny how services charges in 1980, when computers were diesel-powered, were 9% of the face value, but by the 2000s were a much higher percentage, owing to computers having regressed to being charcoal-powered. Or something.

    • Replies: @donvonburg
  322. @Steve Sailer

    Funny how services charges in 1980, when computers were diesel-powered, were 9% of the face value, but by the 2000s were a much higher percentage, owing to computers having regressed to being charcoal-powered. Or something.

    It’s called, “we have it, you want it, you’re going to pay.”

    Concert tickets for rock bands are much more expensive in inflation adjusted terms because, well, because audiences will pay. The fees have gone up likewise. It’s like sportsball and all manner of collectibles.

    I haven’t been to a concert (other than free local jazz and church events) in years, I don’t go to sportsball games, I don’t buy collectibles. If you value those things, make yourself happy. Almost all the classic rock bands will be gone in ten years, many are one or two tours away from the end.

    Sure, the insane prices for these things bother me, but the bottom line is you make your own decisions. There are some very good things you can now buy cheaper than ever, some good values in entertainment. If you can sew or have a wife or mother or sister who does, getting people to give you clothes that just need a button or a little hole fixed will keep you in workwear forever these days. There are fantastic books and records at thrift shops, if you want classical, easy listening or more obscure stuff that isn’t hard rock or blues. Used perfectly good computers are giveaway items if you have any computer maintenance skills at all. If you are a baseball fan, there’s independent league ball games where a ticket, a hot dog and a Coke are ten bucks. You can get playable low end musical instruments for all time low prices now. Outside of expensive coastal areas, you can live pretty well on the cheap these days.

    Desirable real estate and medical care are the killers. I have good insurance because I got a job with a large enough company when my conservative friends were telling everyone to start their own business, most of which failed. And I lucked out by investing the money I got from my dad in a condo and renting out the other half to two older women. I have a nice little woodwork shop and a garage I can work on cars a little, and I’m content. Sure, I’d love to own a Ferrari or a mahogany aircraft engined speedboat, but I’m content to have what I have. I figure that God willing, if the country collapses in my lifetime, I’ve stashed away enough gold and lead I might be able to buy one for nothing-depressions and implosions put stuff like that in peasants’ hands all the time, historically speaking-and if not, not. He who has the most toys does not win, you can’t take it with you, and what some of the people who have that stuff did to get it will be to their eternal regret.

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  323. @Corn

    Uncle Remus is racist, so your allusion means you are a racist racist full of racist, racial racism!

    I’m reporting you to the Internet Police for tying offensive knots in your shoelaces, you racist!

  324. @Anonymous

    427, you should cut a record for this Natalie. I have just the song:

    Best of luck with this!

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  325. @Anonymous

    Bree Walker was white. For the future of our nation, economy, and general well-being, would you rather have more white children with deformed hands or more perfectly formed sun people? I know who I’d choose…

  326. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @donvonburg

    She’s a little young for me, and she’s a vegan too, meaning I’m sure she doesn’t date carnivores. And I’m not converting. I like dead cow as much as I like sex.

    She’s about as much younger than me as Debbie Harry is older. I know D somewhat, but definitely not in the biblical sense. Which I’d rather have a roll in the hay with is an interesting question. One that will not be answered, and that’s fine with me.

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