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Michael Bloomberg, former mayor of New York City, apologizes for his greatest achievement: taking New York City murder rates that has already fallen surprisingly far under Rudy Giuliani and hammering them down to Yogi Berra Era levels. Why? Because he’s running for the Democratic presidential nomination. From the New York Times:

Michael Bloomberg Apologizes for Stop-and-Frisk: ‘I Was Wrong’

Ahead of a possible Democratic run for president, the former mayor of New York City reversed himself before an important party constituency: black voters.By Shane Goldmacher
Nov. 17, 2019

Ahead of a potential Democratic presidential run, former Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg of New York on Sunday reversed his longstanding support of the aggressive “stop-and-frisk” policing strategy that he pursued for a decade and that led to the disproportionate stopping of black and Latino people across the city.

“I was wrong,” Mr. Bloomberg declared. “And I am sorry.”

The speech, Mr. Bloomberg’s first since he re-emerged as a possible presidential candidate, was a remarkable concession by a 77-year-old billionaire not known for self-doubt: that a pillar of his 12-year mayoralty was a mistake that he now regrets.

 
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  1. Clyde says:

    Let the groveling begin! Kind of premature for Bloomie but shows his serious intent. He should come out next for trans inclusive bathrooms.

  2. Anonymous[351] • Disclaimer says:

    He didn’t notice it was wrong for THREE terms?

  3. AndrewR says:

    If he had balls he’d say “I’m not going to apologize for saving the lives of thousands of mostly black, mostly male NYC residents who would have been murdered without my policies. And that’s to say nothing of all the lesser crimes I prevented. Does the freedom of a small subset of the population to not be subjected to stopping and frisking outweigh the right of everyone to have a safe city?”

  4. HonestBl2 says:

    Are these people THAT cynical?

  5. nebulafox says:

    Oh, boy, another election between two New York corrupt Baby Boomer plutocrats. Can’t wait.

    At least the image of Bloomberg sucking up to the woke crowd might prove unarguably once and for all that Big Business is not to be trusted… but then again, Stupid Party does as Stupid Party is.

  6. El Dato says:

    Proudly technocratic and data-driven, Mr. Bloomberg had resisted acknowledging what the numbers showed so starkly: Even as the stops were phased out toward the end of his administration and then decreased sharply under his successor, Mayor Bill de Blasio, crime rates continued to plunge to new lows unseen since the 1950s.

    So why did that happen?

    No real answers …. What Caused the Great Crime Decline in the U.S.?

  7. He’s like Bruce Wayne, except without the courage and honor.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Abe
    , @Anon
    , @Twodees Partain
  8. “A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.” ~ H. L. Mencken

  9. Wilkey says:

    I realize that both parties have their crazier beliefs, but the fact that Democrats keep apologizing for government doing things that actually make civilization possible is a bit over the top.

    • Agree: Nicholas Stix
  10. You don’t need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

    –Bob Dylan

  11. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:

    Cost/benefit, Steve. Was the violation of civil liberties worth it, for what was a small decline at the margin?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  12. I started working in Manhattan in 1996. That chart shows why Giuliani should be remembered as one of the greatest politicians in the history of the US. How many thousands of lives were saved by his policies?

    However, because he achieved it through tough policing and throwing criminals in jail, he showed that 25 years of liberal policy, “solving the underlying societal issues” was completely wrong. Liberals could never accept this. They’d rather have thousands more black men than be proven wrong.

  13. OT:

    Social justice themes to join ‘Star Wars’ in cinemas this holiday season

    https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/movies-tv/social-justice-themes-to-join-star-wars-in-cinemas-this-holiday-season

    Mostly black-black-blackity-black.

  14. Anon[359] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s too late. Blacks who ran away from Kamala Harris for being a cop (aka prosecutor) will run away from Bloomberg. They won’t trust him not to do Stop and Frisk again, but nationwide.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  15. Moshe says:
    @nebulafox

    I see it the other way around.

    What it shows is that even KING CASH must bow and, if need be Seppuku, before the power that is THE MOOD OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE.

    And that’s even when the young people are being flat out retarded like demanding you beg for forgiveness for saving their lives or calling Heather Swanson stunning and brave. No matter HOW dumb they are, they caught some stray germ of this or that utopian ideology and you bow before their youth and certitude and, for one, welcome your new AI overlords, work of your own hands and genitals.

    The shock of the discovery of the fact of death still requires some justification from a Dumb and Invisible God and those that have no Gods of their own to offer the young for mollification must themselves genuflect before the crude graven image of a cow that the young themselves pasted on the fridge and whom, you too, must now bow before on your way to claim your daily bread.

    • Replies: @Trutherator
  16. A123 says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    [Bloomberg’s] like Bruce Wayne, except without the courage and honor.

    If you want a more interesting Batman comparison:

    PEACE 😇

  17. I will go out on a limb and predict Bloomie will *not* get the nomination.

    Too many Dems are just smart enough to see the similarities with Trump.

  18. We now know he wants to be taken seriously as a Democratic candidate now that he has ritually bowed before the altar of black and brown criminality, in the form of this sniveling, pathetic apology. What a disgusting loser, a typical white liberal. At one point I had thought he was a ‘moderate’ and maybe worthy of a vote in the general, but Nope!

  19. Bloomberg was perfectly happy to let incoming mayor DeBlasio insult and deride him nastily on stage during the inaugural. Was even smiling about it. Never uttered a peep afterwards against it.

    This midget is a little rollover puppy. He was only crime-fighting because the city folk demanded the crimeless times continue. But once people forgot, he’s happy to roll over and allow chaos to ensue.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
    , @Mr McKenna
  20. SFG says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    I lived in Manhattan from about 1980 to about 2000. I’ve always had the greatest respect for Rudy.

    • Agree: Joe Magarac
  21. anon[325] • Disclaimer says:

    O/T…

    There is something about Warren, with her insane policies, that seems like a nice, overdue asteroid strike on the Judeo-Boomer Establishment. She could help lay the groundwork for more radical solutions.

    Before 2016, I thought someone like Trump would be enough to expose the absurdity of our policies and institutions. But during Trump’s administration, every belief about the Deep State has been vindicated, to the point, where there is no reason to believe our current system of government is legitimate.

    The Founding Fathers kicked off a rebellion for way less of a cause.

  22. BenKenobi says:
    @A123

    Hello, time traveller from 2016.

    I hate to break it to you, but in the grim, dark future there is only wokeness.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @SFG
  23. bomag says:
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Agree here. There clearly is room for someone “tough” on the Democrat side, which is otherwise filled with over-the-top panderers.

  24. Slimy, unpleasant, egotistical.

    He had no chance to get the nomination … but will despite his massive ego, will do or say anything to try. Would you buy a used car from this man?

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    , @Lot
  25. JimB says:

    Bloomberg should have quit politics while he was ahead.

    • Replies: @BB753
    , @Clifford Brown
  26. Bugg says:
    @Mike_from_SGV

    “Bow before the altar”really means Bloomberg will fellate Al Sharpton in Macy’s window on Black Friday at noon.

  27. @NJ Transit Commuter

    Dead Black Bodies are useful for beating deplorables with.

  28. A123 says:
    @BenKenobi

    in the grim, dark future there is only wokeness.

    So the villain of the piece is “The Woker”?

    PEACE 😇

  29. BB753 says:
    @JimB

    What a disgraceful character! Bloomberg should retire both from politics and business. You only have a few years to live and to spend your millions, sucker!

  30. gman says:

    I continue to be baffled why this doesn’t get more play

    Blacks and Latinos Not Stopped, Frisked Enough, Whites Too Much
    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Mayor-Bloomberg-Stop-Frisk-Blacks-Latinos-Not-Enough-Whites-Too-Much-213534521.html

  31. Lot says:

    Bloomberg going for the Dem nomination is more Trump’s luck.

    I follow Dem activists more than most here. They HATE Bloomberg. Remember, for the Woke, nothing is more important or sacred than the rights of black criminals, plus the right to dress and act like one and disrupt public spaces with impunity. Bloomie may be left-wing on guns and soda cup regulation, but on crime, he was a “fascist.”

    This hate will deny Bloomie the Dem nomination.

    But him entering the race will either weaken or even torpedo Biden, who has always been the strongest Dem candidate.

  32. Eric416 says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    He was also fortunate to be mayor during the period when crack and cocaine was going out and heroin was coming in as the “it” street drug. Drug dealers are always going to do what they do, but crackheads are far more violent and volatile than junkies.

  33. My headline: Pathetic Michael Bloomberg Apologizes to Black Supremacists for His Stop-and-Frisk Police Policy that Saved Thousands of Black Lives: ‘I Should Have Let More Blacks Murder Each Other’

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  34. Lot says:
    @AnotherDad

    “ Slimy, unpleasant, egotistical.

    Would you buy a used car from this man?”

    I don’t like any open borders leftist, but he seems to be among the least bad. Got rich via hard work in a highly competitive industry with no government contracts or funding.

    When he decided to enter politics, he discovered he was too conservative to run as a NY Dem.

    He could have just lied about his views and bought the Dem nomination anyway. Instead he ran as a Republican and won. As the GOP moved right, he became an independent.

    His public health work I can’t fault either.

    You have leftists these days worked up about BS health scares involving GMO, vaccines causing autism, glutan causing everything. Bloomberg however went after actual bad things for health: smoking, sugar, and trans-fat.

    We’d have a much better country if normal leftists were more like Bloomberg.

    • Replies: @newrouter
    , @Kratoklastes
  35. @Lot

    Scott Adams said that Bloomberg goal was to starve Joe Biden of funds.
    If that is so , then is there an understanding between Warren and the Dem billionaires that Warren’s tax plans are not in earnest….

    • Replies: @Barnard
    , @Peterike
    , @Anonymous
  36. Whiskey says: • Website

    While Bloomberg won’t go anywhere, lets get honest Steve, only White male boomers care about fighting crime.

    Look at the Louisiana governor’s race. The Dem won on: BLM, gun control, and abortion rights. MASSIVE Black turnout (he’s White) and White women put him over the top — the right to abort a baby by a beta male and make sure Black male criminal dominance continues is popular with White women, and the latter with Black voters overall.

    Virginia, Kentucky, Louisiana, at this point no one can conclude that there is any appetite for public safety, cracking down on Black/Brown crime, or any sort of toleration of White men. Trump is toast — even Warren can count on massive Black turnout to beat Trump. Heck Trump carried Louisiana by 20 points and the Dem won big — on BLM, gun control, and abortion.

    The thing is … HATE HATE HATE of White men is organic to the groups making up Democrats. Blacks HATE White men, the nerdiness, respect for authority, rule-following, intelligence, future time orientation, White men just EXISTING angers Black people. And that’s the same for White women … every beta male nerd is an existential risk for being a “stupid mistake” per a Judd Apatow movie.

    HATRED of White men, and order, and cleanliness, and safety, is innate to the Democrats coalition: Blacks, Hispanics, White women, and billionaires and their entourages. Look at San Francisco. The Oligarchs who run that place could have the homeless moved out any time, but they love having feces and urine and Bubonic Plague all over the place. Nobody but White men wants order, safety, and security. Heck, look at Sweden. Swedes are fleeing the cities for the countryside and the Africans and Muslims conducting bombing attacks are sure to follow.

    • Replies: @frank d. niles
    , @bomag
  37. newrouter says:
    @Lot

    >Bloomberg however went after actual bad things for health: smoking, sugar, and trans-fat. <

    Right raising taxes on stuff makes you a "public health" hero.

  38. @R.G. Camara

    This cartoon version of the two sets of parasites being in mortal ideological combat, has to die in a fire.

    Bloomberg is part of the same social milieu as DeBlasio – they are closer in their worldview to each other, than either of them is to you, me, the average or median voter, or the average serf. These people interact all the time, and often get along just swimmingly until it’s time to do their part in The Spectacle.

    To the extent that DeBlasio used the bully pulpit to launch a genuinely unanticipated cheap-shot at Bloomberg, it just shows that DeBlasio is a graceless cunt with less personal class than the shit I took this morning – which isn’t surprising (although that’s setting a high bar: my shit’s all class).

    Seriously – why do you believe either side’s very-deliberately-crafted messaging and perception management? You should be smart enough to realise that it has the same truth-foundation as advertisements for face cream or ab machines (assuming you don’t buy those too).

    ‘Picking a side’ between the various fake-options offered by the political class is like declaring that you would deliberately infect yourself with gonorrhoea because you don’t like the current marketing strategy for sypilis (or vice versa).

    The smart option is to not permit yourself to be infected with either, and to place zero faith in any marketing statement that you see, read, or hear (every political pronouncement is marketing).

  39. Barnard says:
    @Houston 1992

    That doesn’t make sense, who is donating money to Bloomberg? Biden should have enough money raised by now to through Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina too. If he does well early, more money will come in after that.

  40. I can’t imagine the hellscape this country is going to become under the woke.

  41. Peterike says:
    @Houston 1992

    “If that is so , then is there an understanding between Warren and the Dem billionaires that Warren’s tax plans are not in earnest….”

    What on earth makes you even consider that they are in earnest? The woman lies. All the time.

  42. @NJ Transit Commuter

    However, because [Giuliani] achieved it through tough policing and throwing criminals in jail, he showed that 25 years of liberal policy…

    Giuliani was the liberal, i.e., Liberal:

    Liberal Party, Breaking With Democrats, to Endorse Giuliani – The New York Times

    Giuliani Is Endorsed by New York Liberal Party – The New York Times

    The late, great Liberal Party did for the Democrats what the younger Conservative Party did for the GOP– kept the larger party from drifting too far left. Even FDR needed their votes to carry the state in 1940 and 1944.

    Giuliani, besides being an immoderate moderate (like Trump and Rockefeller), had an in with the party. An in-law, that is.

    What does Rudy have in common with are Billy Graham, Bill Gates, Bob Geldof, and Bono?

    An honorary knighthood!

    Yehudi Menuhin and Marjorie Scardino were able to convert these to the real thing by taking out UK citizenship. (Or subjection, or whatever. And presumably renouncing ours.)

    Dame Marjorie recently chaired the board at the MacArthur Foundation, the 24th-wealthiest foundation in the world– four places ahead of Bloomberg’s:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_charitable_foundations#Wealthiest_foundations_by_endowment_value

    The SPLC has a lot of climbing to do!

  43. @Lot

    Got rich via hard work in a highly competitive industry with no government contracts or funding.

    IP protection is effectively a government contract: it is a government-imposed set of constraints that makes protected output more expensive than it would otherwise be.

    Try to find a billionaire whose fortune is not due – 99% or more – to licensure, IP monopoly protection, or some other government interference in the economy. You’ll struggle.

    IP monopolies permit price to exceed marginal cost: they are a policy that transfers wealth from consumers to (some) producers, in ways that result in significant excess returns on capital (so they are an outright distortion, not some nonsense shit that ‘encourages R&D’).

    • Agree: schnellandine
    • Replies: @MBloomberg
  44. @Nicholas Stix

    My headline: Pathetic Michael Bloomberg Apologizes to Black Supremacists for His Stop-and-Frisk Police Policy that Saved Thousands of Black Lives: ‘I Should Have Let More Blacks Murder Each Other’

    Blacks demand gun control. Bloomberg showed them how that works.

    Tough cookies!

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @216
    , @Anonymous
  45. @A123

    You left out “Popular with insecure males who don’t read good“.

    Coz let’s be clear: the fictional character Batman is a self-centred insecure mentally-ill violent psychopath. #OrangeManBad is probably only 3 of those.

  46. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Houston 1992

    If the real powers thought she was serious about taxing real wealth, she would never have gotten this far. They’d have Howard Dean’ed her out by now.

    I wish Ole Bob Whitaker were here to explain this one. I have the basic concept down but he could have given the specifics, as when he did when he correctly predicted the Clintons would torpedo Kerry, and why.

  47. Abe says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    He’s like Bruce Wayne, except without the courage and honor.

    Again why I have less and less of a problem with an honest economic leftist winning the Presidency, so long as they stick it to the billionaires and centi-millionaires.

    Seriously, what is the point of Midas-level wealth and status if you have to humiliate yourself again and again so as not to be cancelled? Hilary Clinton apologizing for her “superpredators” remark. Jerry Jones (whose Dallas Cowboys at $5 billion were the most valuable sports franchise on the planet lastI checked) kneeling on behalf of a punk like Kaepernick . I’m sure Bezos and Bill Gates would pathetically abject themselves too if called upon to do so by some screaming blue-hair “studies” activist. We need a new, less despicable elite*.

    [MORE]

    * the only equivalent of an elite so fabulously rich yet spineless is the Roman Senate during the reigns of the more despotic emperors. Rich enough to own the equivalent of 2 counties (one latifundium in Italy, one in Africa) yet would not give a second thought to groveling or betraying a friend.

  48. Anonymous[644] • Disclaimer says:

    Bloomy trying to walk back on Neo-Crow policies of targeting blacks for inspection and arrest.

  49. Anon[250] • Disclaimer says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Bruce Wayne isn’t a real person.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  50. @Abe

    Again why I have less and less of a problem with an honest economic leftist winning the Presidency, so long as they stick it to the billionaires and centi-millionaires…

    …and millionaires and centithousandaires and decamillaires…

    You know how that goes. Bracket creep works in both directions.

  51. 216 says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    Large numbers of people think there are no racial disparities in criminality. Thus there are large numbers of white murderers that:

    -Wear masks/blackface to avoid getting caught
    -Are protected by racist cops
    -Have money for lawyers to buy their way out of the judicial system

    The truth about the gun issue is confirmed if you google “Gun control castration”

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    , @Herbert West
  52. Abe says:

    Handguns and switchblades for “aspiring rappers getting their lives together”. Full force of the law down on your head if caught in possession of an unlicensed Big Gulp container. Welcome to anarcho-tyranny dome!

  53. @Abe

    Warren seems okay with centimillionaires.

  54. Stop and frisk is now demonized in polite society. But it is the law of the land in traffic enforcement. For the most part, the police don’t really care about your moderate speeding, equipment violations, or petty moving violations. It’s a pretense with the hope of striking gold upon subjecting you to a records review and physical inspection. It’s stop and frisk, which 40 million Americans (1 out of 6 drivers) get treated to every year.

    If it’s wrong on the streets of NYC, maybe it’s wrong everywhere. Or if it’s a critical component of the thin blue line ensuring civilization on the highways, then it is in NYC too. Right? Or, in the current year, is logical consistency and equal treatment nice things we’re not allowed to have anymore?

  55. Millenials and Gen Z don’t get it for the most part. Death Wish, Escape from New York, and a whole lot of that genre that lasted until the mid to late 80s was a very real reaction to crime. I just thank God I live in a place where it’s legal to defend yourself.

  56. MBlanc46 says:
    @nebulafox

    Bloomberg is not a Baby Boomer.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  57. This is all so tiring, Steve, how do you do it?

    Isn’t it obvious he is pandering to white people here, it’s not like Africans are complaning that they are being shot less in the streets nowadays

  58. MBlanc46 says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Perhaps the world would have been at least a slightly better place if some of the lives that he saved hadn’t been saved.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  59. Steve, I really wonder what you think the end result of all of this will be. Where do you see America in 2050, or is it too horrific to contemplate?

    While I am fine with Hispanic and Asian immigrants, the vast growth of the Black population worries me greately, and it is very likely that we will see a migrant crisis like Europe very soon. All the political strategies to stop this seem to be failing.

    This is even disregarding our horrible economic situation, which is certainly not maintainable.

    Oh well, lets hope that Trump wont be a silly buffoon in 2020, an actually has a good plan to win. Otherwise we are in some serious trouble.

  60. Anonymous[407] • Disclaimer says:

    Bloomberg has very high math/science IQ but weak verbal/social IQ.

    His political gestures are lead balloons. Every time. He doesn’t have the knack.

    American Jewry is desperately searching for a hero to vanquish the golden boy! But Steyer, Sanders, Bloomberg etc are all inferior. It’s a lot like the NFL where the left wing owners desperately want their inferior qb’s to beat Brady. Beat Brady because he’s Brady. Beat everything that Brady represents.

    Bezos/Jorgensen supposedly begged Doomberg to run! Now the question is whether Bezos was sincere or just trying to get the old egomaniac to humiliate himself.

    Bezos is another guy without any real verbal IQ. It’s funny to watch all of the billionaires get completely dwarfed by Trump’s raw charisma. There’s literally no one on the Forbes list who can compete with Trump including the delusional Mark Cuban. But they all still believe they can destroy Trump mano a mano. Cognitive dissonance.

  61. SFG says:
    @BenKenobi

    There is no peace among the states, only an eternity of witch-hunts and deplatforming, and the screaming of triggered grad students.

  62. @MBlanc46

    Sad but true. Here’s a 2011 affirmation from Cory Booker, no less:

    Cory Booker says Newark shooting victims have high chance they’ve been arrested an average of 10 times

    By Erin O’Neill on Monday, October 24th, 2011 at 7:30 a.m.

    Many gun violence victims in the state’s largest city share a common trait — a criminal history, according to Newark Mayor Cory Booker.

    Booker, in a recent radio interview, said statistics showing the extent to which shooting victims are involved in the criminal justice system are “startling.”

    “We now sat down with Rutgers and have shown that if you are shot in the city of Newark, as the shooting demonstrates that we just saw, if you are shot in the city of Newark, you have over an 80 percent chance that you’ve been arrested before an average of 10 times,” Booker said Oct. 13 on WBGO’s “Newark Today,” just days after a daytime shooting spree in a public housing complex in Newark’s Central Ward. “So we know the players here. If you are getting shot or doing the shooting, overwhelmingly you’ve been involved in the criminal justice system and the correctional system is not correcting.”

  63. @Dave Pinsen

    Taylor Swift can play guitar and banjo pretty good, but she really turned into a bitch. I’m not quite sure that people like her ever grasp how unimaginalbly lucky they are. I mean, if you can afford to buy a 100 foot boat you have nothing to bitch about.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  64. @Abe

    Again why I have less and less of a problem with an honest economic leftist winning the Presidency, so long as they stick it to the billionaires and centi-millionaires.

    Same here. Milton Friedman and other libertarian economists really screwed the country over. Warren Buffett actually came close to earning his money. Bill Gates got lucky and got to the home/office computer business first, and did it more cheaply than Apple. The Mac is a far superior product, albeit more expensive.

  65. @Abe

    So you’re defending billionaires. I wouldn’t expect anything less from this dumbass website. Loves billionaires. Can you believe it.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  66. Anonymous[407] • Disclaimer says:

    Steyer… Sanders… Bloomberg… Maybe they’ll roll out Lieberman at the convention.

    Surely there must be some Jewish giant who can head Trump off at the pass. Who will emerge to vanquish this goy golden boy.

    It’s like sending out Mel Torme to blow the aging Sinatra off the stage.

    Or sending Neil Diamond to push the aging Elvis off the stage.

    Or sending Lenny Bruce to go out there and finally end Bob Hope’s career once and for all.

    Trump is past his prime but still: No. Smart Jews understand. Don’t toss your hat into the ring. When the gentiles produce a force of nature the wise thing to do is let it run its course.

  67. Alfa158 says:
    @216

    They also believe that murders committed by Whites are reclassified by The Man as suicides or auto accidents in order to deflate our murder rate. They think the actual White murder rate is what they see on Law & Order.

  68. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @South Texas Guy

    She’s a decent player for a pop singer, but not really a serious player.

    A few people made the transition from serious player to pop singer, nearly all men, but not the other way around as far as I can think of.

    • Agree: South Texas Guy
  69. @NJ Transit Commuter

    Giuliani was highly respected by rank and file Mahattanites when I was there prior to 9/11. I guess there’s validity to the broken windows theory after all.

  70. @South Texas Guy

    Death Wish, Escape from New York, and a whole lot of that genre that lasted until the mid to late 80s was a very real reaction to crime. I just thank God I live in a place where it’s legal to defend yourself.

    My mother’s cousin grew up in NYC, but found himself managing a trio of convenience stores in a rough patch of Texas. Pre-Killeen, that state had a strict ban on concealed carry, which was legal in his hometown if you could somehow wangle a license.

    So he carried openly on the job. Still, that sounds dicey. Couldn’t a robber’s accomplice see the weapon and steal or neutralize it, enabling his buddy to complete the crime?

  71. @obwandiyag

    So you’re defending billionaires. I wouldn’t expect anything less from this dumbass website.

    Nearly all billionaires support a liberal immigration policy. Only the common people know how bad this is for the country. They can actually see, and smell, the immigrants.

    The common people are right… right?

  72. @South Texas Guy

    Milton Friedman and other libertarian economists really screwed the country over.

    Libertarians don’t screw anyone over. They simply allow people the means to screw themselves directly, rather than via a middleman.

    But someone from the ninth state to ratify the Sixteenth Amendment might think differently.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Adoption

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Law_that_Never_Was

  73. @Kratoklastes

    You seem to have no idea what you are talking about. Bloomberg is not a tech mogul who relied on the patent, trademark, or copyright system to make a fortune. He made his fortune by offering a subscription news service to Wall Street traders. Subscribe and you get the news first. Don’t subscribe and you get it later, which is worthless on Wall Street. A Bloomberg subscription became a “must have” because without it you were trading in the dark and at a disadvantage.

    The most critical thing you could say about Bloomberg is that in some ways he legalized insider trading.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  74. @Clyde

    He should come out next for trans inclusive bathrooms.

    Trump and Giuliani have Bloomberg beat on that front.

    • Replies: @Abe
  75. @JimB

    Bloomberg should donate his fortune to worthy charities instead of this quixotic presidential run. I do want to see how Bloomberg will react to being shouted down by some far left activists.

    • Agree: sayless
    • Replies: @JimB
  76. Escher says:

    He was the Mayor NYC needed, not the one it deserved.

  77. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Blacks don’t personally give a shit about gun control either way because they, more or less correctly, figure they will always be able to get guns, just like they get illegal drugs, and short of us going Full Singapore that’s true.

    Blacks vote how they be told to vote by their Big Men. The Big Men, though, are bought and paid for by interests outside the coomoonity, which blacks are vaguely aware of but don’t much care.

  78. Kronos says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    That leads to a very interesting question. How important is the amount of money you possess compared to how you earned it. That is Hedge Fund/Industry vs. Entertainment/Lottery Winner. I can’t imagine too many lottery winners becoming huge “movers and shakers” in any political scene.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  79. Anon[592] • Disclaimer says:

    What’s really interesting is that there have been (at least according to one website) a total of 26 people who have tried to be the Democratic candidate. But almost all of them are nuts. The ideals of the Democrats have become so ridiculous and outrageous that all the sane politicians have left the party. I predicted this would happen. They don’t have a good national level-politician in them.

    Bloomberg is an ass, but he’s the best the Dems can do. But he’s not different enough from Trump to make enough Democrats go out and vote for him. He’ll get the Jewish vote, and maybe the Mexican vote, and the anti-crime upper middle class whites. But the younger whites think his nannying tendencies are really backwards and annoying. They don’t want their Big Gulps banned, or their vaping banned, and they hate Bloomy’s anti-crime tendencies. 9 million people in the US now vape. They’ll vote Trump. The wing of leftists that is praising Warren for wanting to tax billionaires isn’t so naive to realize Bloomy’s running to stop all notions of that. Stock and Frisk will do him in with blacks.

    Even though he’d be the best candidate the Democrats can put up, I don’t think he can put the coalition of the fringes together well enough. The young Democrats and blacks won’t back him, and he can’t win without them. If there is a 3rd party candidate to the left of Bloomy that runs, they’ll split the Democratic vote and get Trump reelected handily.

  80. @South Texas Guy

    Actually, living in the sticks, having a pistol on your side helps keep the grabass to a minimum. And the drug runners changed their route in the last few years. They moved a few miles from the border.

  81. @nebulafox

    At least the image of Bloomberg sucking up to the woke crowd might prove unarguably once and for all that Big Business is not to be trusted

    Funny you should mention…A knockout op-ed in RT from just-retired ‘anti-pc’ NYU professor Michael Rectenwald:

    This is the BIG reason why corporate America has gone woke (plus 4 more)

    What one encounters – from the boardrooms to the storyboards and beyond – is a nauseating, woke-up blend of equal parts Communist Manifesto, social justice handbook, sanctimonious sermon and used car sales pitch.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/473576-corporate-america-gone-woke/

    I can’t even imagine being vociferously anti-pc and teaching at NYU.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  82. @Reg Cæsar

    No. Liberatians suck. I was on board in my teens, but the whole private ownership of the roads, and unlimited wealth for people who got there first is bullshit. The latter part has f$%ed over the middle class. Steve wouldn’t be driving a 98 Infintity if it wans’t so

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  83. BostonTea says:

    “Police should seize guns from male minorities between ages 15 and 25. These kids think they’re going to get killed anyway because all their friends are getting killed. So they just don’t have any longterm focus. We put all the cops in the minority neighborhoods. Why do you do it? Because that’s where all the crime is.”

    – Michale Bloomberg (see The Aspen Times, “Bloomberg blocks footage of Aspen Institute appearance”)

  84. So, Bloomie is the “Flaw & Disorder” candidate.

  85. @Reg Cæsar

    Couldn’t a robber’s accomplice see the weapon and steal or neutralize it, enabling his buddy to complete the crime?

    Possibly, but they’d probably figure it was safer to rob someplace else. Robbers look for the easy prey.

  86. @El Dato

    Economic cleansing of native-born African-Americans.

  87. @Mike_from_SGV

    The last few years have shown, both in Britain and the US, that “moderate” means nothing more than “establishment-approved”. For example, UK politicians who support endless wars, increasing aggression against Russia are *always* described as “moderates”, no matter their views on other subjects.

  88. So why have murder rates in NYC continued to drop under Bill de Blasio?

    Personally I have no idea but I can report that at a certain date the attitude of black and hispanic New Yorkers changed. I lived in the Lower East Side in the late ’60s when drugs where everywhere. I got stabbed by 2 teenage Puerto Ricans but survived. After my mother died in 1979 I had no occasion to visit until 1998 when I was invited to visit a friend living in Riverdale just north of the Bronx. I was gobsmacked by the new civility in the subway and elsewhere. Guliani was mayor then and his police chief had instituted the new penological theory that permitting petty crime in the ghettos increased major crimes and vice versa. Bloomberg succeeded Guliani and his police chief maintained the Quality of Life penological theory. Even after the stop and frisk policy was abandonned, I suspect the NYPD continues to arrest for petty criminal acts like fare cheaters in the subways and similar crimes. OTOH, elsewhere in the country, “progressives” in California, Atlanta, Georgia and elsewhere argue for decriminalization of fare cheaters and petty theft.

  89. @Anonymouse

    As early as 1991, New York had gotten most of the graffiti removed from the subway trains, which made visiting NYC seem like less of a dystopian scifi experience that during the 1980s. People in NYC in 1991 were quite nice to us, which I attributed to having our toddler along, but maybe the economic boom of the 1980s had brought in a nicer class of person?

  90. SFG says:
    @Steve Sailer

    That would be one of my big guesses. The city started gentrifying a lot, so they may have just banished the vibrancy far enough out it wasn’t a problem by now. And even without stop-and-frisk, if the cops go after small things it might not pay to make trouble.

    I do think, as some here have argued, it may have helped form 21st century woke by removing urban liberals from the consequences of their ideology. 20 years ago Bill Clinton knew a lot of his voters were still afraid of crime.

  91. @Anon

    Neither is Captain Obvious, but your similarities to him are palpable.

  92. Clyde says:
    @Anon

    It’s too late. Blacks who ran away from Kamala Harris for being a cop (aka prosecutor) will run away from Bloomberg. They won’t trust him not to do Stop and Frisk again, but nationwide.

    Bloomie could have been President if he campaigned on nationwide stop and frisk *plus* along with confiscating all so called assault weapons. This way you hit the whites and minorities equally. As it is, I am all in for Trump/best President ever/ and whites get too keep high powered weaponry. I did some campaign work for The Donald last time around, assembling yard signs in the office. People were streaming in and out taking the signs to plant on lawns. And half the people were Hispanic. Just one black that seemed Caribbean derived who was v light and had blue eyes too.

    I also did phone calls for McCain in 2008 in his local office. I never ate one in my life, until the local Chick-Fil-A sent over a cooler full of about 100 sandwiches. That was fun!

  93. Maybe Bloomberg should run for Manhattan Borough President:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/24/nyregion/scott-stringer-manhattan-leader-criticizes-stop-and-frisk.html

    A spokesman for the mayor, Marc LaVorgna, disputed Mr. Stringer’s suggestion that the practice was an “ineffective policy” that made it harder to fight crime.

    “The facts tell a different story — crime has been driven down to historic lows by the N.Y.P.D., in part due to this policy,” Mr. LaVorgna said by e-mail. “We’ll continue to take our cues on crime-fighting from Ray Kelly, not career politicians like the Manhattan borough president.”

  94. watson79 says:

    Whiskey,

    LA elected a Dem who most certainly didn’t run on BLM and who signed a bill restricting abortion. The Gov. is a practicing Catholic. Many of the attacks on Rispone were based on his past positions on Common Core, hiring illegals in his construction business, etc. The National GOP attempted to tie Edwards to Pelosi and OC. The record of GOPe golden boy Bobby Jindal accounted for lack of enthusiasm for another Republican. Louisiana demographics require a Republican energize the white vote.

  95. @Steve Sailer

    When I went to NYC, people scared the hell out of me. I was in all five boroughs (or is it six? I was in basic training with a Queens guy and when he said burroughs, I thought he was talking about donkeys)

    My driving partner and I took out 1 1/2 inch wrenchs when were going through the Bronx. I still had vivid memories of Fort Apache..

    Manhattan by the late 90s was super fun. Brooklyn hadn’t gentyfied yet, but I found a good pizza place.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  96. @Whiskey

    You don’t know what you are talking about regarding Louisiana . . . Yes the vote is broken down along racial lines in large part but the Democrat who won was anti-abortion and pro-gun . . . and he had the backing of the state’s sheriff’s organization. Those are some of the reasons why he won his majority. The Republican, on the other hand, was an elderly businessman who refused to give much in the way of detail concerning his plans for the state and refused to show up for all but one debate and refused to to attend events, such one hosted by a key Baton Rouge business group.

    https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/politics/elections/article_3b65b984-f752-11e9-b497-a3b454d85374.html

  97. Realist says:

    Why are so many Democrats and Republicans willing to prostrate and humiliate themselves to be a titular head for the Deep State?

  98. jtgw says:
    @El Dato

    Does seem like the connection between stop and frisk and decreasing crime is too tenuous to justify such a blatant violation of Fourth Amendment rights. There are other ways to fight crime effectively without resorting to that.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  99. Jack D says:

    Bloomberg’s apology not accepted. Too little too late for Charles Blow:

    Bloomberg’s Bogus, Belated Mea Culpa

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/17/opinion/bloomberg-stop-and-frisk.html

    In part, Bloomberg’s apology was prompted by Blow’s column/ orders issued last week, which was entitled something like “Never Never Vote for Michael Bloomberg”.

    Bloomberg violated black bodies and there’s no apologizing for that. Once a black body start talking about black bodies, it’s game over.

  100. Jack D says:
    @Lot

    You’re right, but given Trump’s weaknesses, there’s no guaranty that he’s going to win in November even against an extreme Leftist like Warren so the end result might be that by damaging Biden, Bloomberg puts Warren in the White House.

  101. @MikeatMikedotMike

    True, but he also lacks a Batmobile. Just sayin’.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  102. countenance says: • Website

    I figured when Bloomy announced as a Dem, his candidacy was going to go nowhere, because he already started ticking off two major mainstays of the party: Blacks, with this support of SQF, and teachers’ unions, with his support of neoliberal education reform.

    Looks like he’s already starting to try to walk back half of this.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  103. Bloomberg On Black/Mulatto And Mestizo/Latino Crime In New York City(2015):

    Bloomberg claimed that 95 percent of murders fall into a specific category: male, minority and between the ages of 15 and 25.* Cities need to get guns out of this group’s hands and keep them alive, he said.

    “These kids think they’re going to get killed anyway because all their friends are getting killed,” Bloomberg said. “They just don’t have any long-term focus or anything. It’s a joke to have a gun. It’s a joke to pull a trigger.”

    At one point, the former mayor brought up New York City’s stop-and-frisk practices, which gained national attention in 2011. Bloomberg said that during his last year in office, a minister at a Baptist church in Harlem invited him to speak.

    “While I’m sitting there waiting for him to introduce me, he said to his congregation, ‘You know, if every one of you stopped and frisked your kid before they went out at night, the mayor wouldn’t have to do it,’” Bloomberg said. “And so I knew I was going to be okay with that audience.”

    https://www.aspentimes.com/news/michael-bloomberg-calls-colorados-decision-on-legal-pot-stupid/

    Tweet from 2015:

  104. @MBloomberg

    Referring to yourself in the third person is kind off-putting, Bloomie.

  105. @South Texas Guy

    “Milton Friedman and other libertarian economists”

    Milton Friedman was a “libertarian economist”? Seek help before you snap and kill us all.

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
  106. Jack D says:
    @jtgw

    “Tenous”, “blatant” are tendentious words. “Direct” and “reasonable” work just as well. Maybe you are right but your pronouncement from on high doesn’t really prove it. Look at Steve’s graph. Maybe our liberty is worth a few thousand more (mostly black) deaths but at least have the courage of your convictions and admit that the price will be paid in blood.

    • Replies: @jtgw
  107. @Clyde

    NYC law is that anyone can use any bathroom. That ship has sailed.

  108. @nebulafox

    Bloomberg is prissy and preachy, but not corrupt. And also not a Boomer.he might, like Biden, be the last chance for the Silent Generation to elect a President.

    Compare Bloomberg to his successor, if you want to see what a corrupt mayor looks like.

  109. jtgw says:
    @Jack D

    Stop and frisk was introduced in 1994 I believe, but the downward trend started around 1990 and continued after the policy was abandoned, so that throws considerable doubt on the theory that it was the main factor behind the drop in crime.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @Feryl
  110. @216

    Large numbers of people think there are no racial disparities in criminality.

    They do? Funny, almost nobody behaves as if they believe it, in the real world.

    Virtually everyone I know, including, and especially, black people, takes it for granted that blacks are more violent than whites.

    The cognitive dissonance of right-thinking liberals must be incredible. No wonder they are explode into anger so quickly when it is pointed out.

    • Agree: jim jones
  111. Jack D says:
    @countenance

    Except, as you can see by Blow’s column, it won’t work. Groveling before the Woke only encourages further attacks. Apology NOT accepted! So the Woke aren’t going to vote for him anyway and the non-Woke see him as a spineless opportunist. He will further damage Biden’s candidacy but people are not really looking for another egotistical NY billionaire to lead the country.

    NY politicians (and Trump was not a politician) rarely travel well on the national stage – NY is just too different from the rest of the country.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @nebulafox
  112. JimB says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Bloomberg should donate his fortune to worthy charities instead of this quixotic presidential run. I do want to see how Bloomberg will react to being shouted down by some far left activists.

    I suppose the same could be said of George Soros, but this guy’s fortune is built on hatred for the countries that protected him and allowed him to become wealthy through betrayal. He’s just evil, and it’s kind of hard to become a Prince of Darkness Emeritus.

  113. @El Dato

    Anybody looked at the negro demographics?

  114. @MBlanc46

    You don’t get it. Calling someone a Boomer doesn’t have to be accurate. It’s like calling someone an asshole. 😉

    • Replies: @njguy73
  115. @Mr McKenna

    I can’t even imagine being vociferously anti-pc and teaching at NYU.

    I can’t imagine teaching at NYU and not being anti-PC. But I get your point.

    Normal people can’t stand the work environment at a woke university or newsroom. So they self-select into some other profession. The result is that the woketards take over the key communication chokepoints simply by being obnoxious.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  116. bomag says:
    @Whiskey

    Whiskey, how do you explain Asians?

    Seems a natural coalition with White males.

    Or maybe they figure they’ll ascend after the White male is cleared away.

  117. @Mike_from_SGV

    His real path would have been to run as an independent Perot-style candidate. But he was cowed by Democrats claiming he’d be a spoiler for Trump.

    Americans are legitimately sick of the two party duopoly and are increasingly identifying as independent. Unfortunately, you have to be a billionaire to run on your own. And the supply of billionaires who have charisma and some political talent is pretty limited.

    • Agree: nebulafox
  118. @Reg Cæsar

    It’s been legal to carry a piece on your own property as long as I can remember. Texas didn’t get fully on board with concealed carry until the late 90s or early 00’s.

    When I was growing up, however, Texas still had the three county rule, meaning you had to be travelling across three counties to have a loaded pistol within reach (which meant anything not in the trunk). Rifles and shotguns were good to do all day long. Back in the day a buddy got called into the principal’s office at the high school for having a couple of long guns. Pre school shootings, he was mostly concerned that the guns might be stolen. Simpler times.

  119. Remember Obama quoting a bit of “the Chicago way” during his 2008 campaign?

    Here’s the current Democrat version: “Here’s how you get him. He wins the election, you launch a two-year investigation. He’s acquitted, you start impeachment hearings! That’s the Chicago way.”

  120. @Steve Sailer

    Let ‘s not forget your insight about the change of drug preference from speed/crack/cocaine, all uppers to heroin/fentanyl/Ecstasy, all of them downers as explaining the amazing drop in murder rates in NYC. Under coke, addicts act out, under heroin, they nod out.

    I have another more outre theory. When I visited NYC in 1998 for the first time in over 15 years I noticed blacks reading the NYTimes in the subway. That I had never seen ever before, growing up as I did in the Apple in the 1940s and 50s. Yes, the Daily News sometimes but never never never the NYTimes. It would seem that Negroes’ intellectual level was higher in 1998. Perhaps they were better educated thanks to efforts to improve their schools. Perhaps a large tranche of born in NYC blacks realized that they now enjoyed preferential (affirmative action) hiring and that it was possible to be hired easily as the token black in the multitude of businesses in NYC, move out of the housing ghetto (blacks could not rent in most parts of NYC until recent times) and have a freedom of choice denied to them in the past. Looking farther afield that NYC, isn’t the case that the unmarried birth rate among blacks has dropped in lockstep with other ethnicities?

    This is an interesting subject as we have to live with our fellow citizens who are black. It should not rejected out of hand that ameliorative measures by the government might actually ameliorate. I now live in Austin Texas where race relations are excellent so far as my experience goes. When I first came down here (1963), Austin was legally segregated and a modest civil rights movement existed. Time does change matters – in the case of race relations it would seem for the better.

    • Replies: @John Arthur
  121. nebulafox says:
    @Lot

    The Donald is truly blessed in his enemies, but I echo Jack’s sentiment: given Trump’s blatant political incompetence, he could still lose.

    Yes, he’s better off facing Warren than Biden. But this isn’t Nixon squaring off against McGovern by a long shot. Trump cannot point to any concrete, memorable, fully accomplished achievement except a completely unsolicited tax cut that his base did not even want in the first place. He hasn’t managed to fully extract us from the Middle East, he’s muddled about on trade, health care is still an abominable mess, and despite all the bluster about the wall, there’s no E-Verify or anything that’d actually do something about the illegal immigration issue. The Dems have become nutty enough that this might not matter in the end, but Trump will win because of his opponents, not because of Trump. One can argue this has always been the case, granted-many people who voted for Trump knew he wasn’t qualified, that wasn’t the point-but it has never been this nakedly apparent.

  122. Kronos says:
    @Mr McKenna

    He kinda reminds me of the bad guy from “The French Connection” but without a beard.

  123. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    The complete lack of magnanimity the PC Mafia shows in victory is only turning people privately ever more bitter. It’s a dangerous game, telling Americans that they *need* to do something rather than explaining why they should and why they’d be doing a good thing by doing so, and the Democrats have been doing this more and more over the past decade. Guys like Obama see the danger here on some level, but there’s push-back even against the one-time Jesus figure for bien-pensants now as white liberals get increasingly radical. The impulse against this is so deep that the GOP can still be relevant despite largely existing in the mental plane of 1994 and being force to run reality TV show stars for President because their own choices are so noxiously unpopular. They’d better hope they never lose official patronage, because if they do, their necks will be wrung instantly.

    It’s a different game, planning political change when you know you’ve got institutional sympathy vs. when you don’t. A lot of the far-right doesn’t seem to get that. But the really ridiculous thing is that the Antifa-sympathizing types still genuinely believe they don’t have it. They actually believe they are these oppressed freedom fighters, the morons. That can be exploited if they can be goaded into doing dumb, self-destructive things, because institutional and popular sympathy can diverge.

  124. Muggles says:

    Deval Patrick (former Gov. MA) and Bloomberg. As Beta O’Rourke and others quietly disappear down the Memory Hole (thank heavens!) more wanna bees start showing up very late to the party.

    Duval is totally unknown outside of the NE and Bloomie is only known to NYCers and stock traders. He’s quite old in an already gray haired Dem herd and a Jewish billionaire former NYC mayor isn’t exactly a popular icon outside of the five boroughs. Even there his nutty health authoritarianism didn’t play well. Isn’t he the living embodiment of everything the racist/sexist/ageist/Marxist Dems are all against these days? I guess he didn’t get the memo.

    “Let a 1,000 flowers blossom!” as the late Mao once said. After which he rounded up the blossoms and put them into death camps. Here, such blossoms will merely be consigned to the well deserved obscurity of failed politicians. “Mitt who? Oh, that Pierre Delecto guy…”

  125. Abe says:
    @Clifford Brown

    THE NEW YORK TIMES to screech that Giuliani ‘s foray at dressing in “doll face” is as unacceptable in Current Year as Justin Trudeau’s or that Virginia governor’s who everyone was mad at for an Internet eternity until they completely forgot about his crime of black-face because Giuliani‘s not a “genuine” transsexual like Bruce in 4,3,2….

  126. @jtgw

    We have it in the UK, too, as “stop and search”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/jan/26/met-police-disproportionately-use-stop-and-search-powers-on-black-people

    “Stop and search is controversial because of a historic greater likelihood of use against black communities with a resultant damage in trust and confidence in policing. Theresa May, when home secretary, warned police about the damage such disproportionality caused and pressed for change, resulting in a drop in the overall level.

    A total of 151,102 searches were carried out in 2018, an increase of 16% in London on the previous year, rising by 5% for white people and 19% for black people.”

    It needs to be used more, if the Crime pages of the London Evening Standard are any guide.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/police-hunt-for-tube-thugs-targeting-passengers-for-phones-a4289611.html

    Knife-wielding “steaming” gangs are terrorising young commuters for their £200 Apple AirPods and mobiles on the transport network.

    The muggers have struck at least eight times at rail and Tube stations across London and Essex in the past month.

    British Transport Police today released CCTV images of young men they want to speak to in connection with the robberies.

    Detective Chief Inspector Sarah White said: “We have seen a concerning amount of robberies across both the London Underground and mainline rail network in London, and we are working tirelessly to catch those responsible.”

    You can guess the ethnicity of the “young men”.

    “Steaming” – mob-handed robberies of Tube passengers – used to be big about 30 years ago, and seems to be making a comeback.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  127. @South Texas Guy

    A government that can register and subtract from your income is a government that can register and subtract from your arsenal. How would that go down in Texas?

    The difference between the IRS and the ATF is…?

    (Well, only one of those has global reach.)

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
  128. @Twodees Partain

    I should have said “…but without the courage, honor, and all the cool shit.”

    • LOL: Twodees Partain
  129. Can the American voter relate to a guy who is so unwilling to get into a hot car that he has his aides drag a room air conditioner to the parking lot to cool off its interior?

    Mayor Bloomberg wants to maintain his politically correct credentials on global warming — but hates to get into a hot car when he leaves an air conditioned building.

    The solution his aides came up with could easily have doubled as a stunt on David Letterman’s show.

    In full view of bemused tourists and other passers-by, workers yesterday performed what looked like a comedy routine: They hoisted a standard room air conditioner to a side window of one of the mayor’s SUVs parked in the City Hall lot to see if it would fit.

    https://nypost.com/2012/06/27/mayor-rigs-wacky-ac-to-keep-his-suv-chilled/

  130. @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t like taxes, but I see the need for the IRS as a necessary evil. The ATF is unfathomable to me. All three are legal to own, buy and possess. I’m not quite sure now, but back in the Branch Davidian days, ATF agents were the joke of federal law enforcement.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Jim Don Bob
  131. OT: Sorry for ragging on you about your car, Steve. It’s been a dick move on my part for several months now. I’ll try and do better, but if I get into the bourbon late at night all bets are off.

  132. Feryl says: • Website
    @South Texas Guy

    Seeing as how teen crime rates fell faster in 1996-2005 than adult crime rates did, it’s safe to say that Millennials made sure that real life did not look like the urban dystopia that Boomers and Gen X-ers created in the 1970’s-early 1990’s, and frequently referenced in the movies of that time.

    On behalf of Millennials everywhere, I apologize to older generations that my generation decided to rob, rape, and murder fewer people than Boomers and Gen X did.

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
  133. Feryl says: • Website
    @jtgw

    The two peaks in the murder rate were 1980 and 1991/1992. Property and violent crime rose from the late 60’s-1980. They then dipped slightly from 1981-1984, before trending up from 1985-1992. However, even the early 90’s crime level, aside from the murder rate, is somewhat lower than it was in the late 70’s and very early 80’s. There was a moderate reduction in crime from 1993-1996, then crime rates began to fall dramatically beginning in 1997.

    It looks like mass incarceration of Boomers and X-ers (which really took off in the 1990’s), combined with Millennials not committing much crime, are the main reasons for the crime decline of the last 25 years. If Millennials had committed as much crime as X-ers, than crime rates wouldn’t have declined very much, BTW (in the 70’s-early 90’s, for every young criminal who was locked up another one would pop up to take his place, not unlike a game of whack a mole).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Anon
  134. Clyde says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Only problem with what Elizabeth Warren said is that the rights to Taylor Swifts old tunes were bought by Scooter Braun. A private equity firm was not involved.

  135. @South Texas Guy

    The ATF is unfathomable to me

    As with the IRS, it’s the scion of another progressive amendment of the era, the Eighteenth. Which Texas was the eighth state to ratify:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#cite_ref-108-17_11-0

    Why the hurry?

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
  136. @Feryl

    Bastardy, and the resultant single motherhood, took off around 1965. The hormones kicked in about a dozen years later.

    Fewer children born in a particular year would suggest fewer criminals active 15 years later. Occam’s switchblade.

    Bogus cohorts with narcissistic labels have nothing to do with it.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  137. @Ripple Earthdevil

    Social justice themes to join ‘Star Wars’ in cinemas this holiday season.

    I saw the trailer recently and it looks like it blows.

    OT: Say Ford vs Ferrari today (in IMAX!) and it was pretty good. All story, no message.

    • Replies: @Muggles
  138. @Reg Cæsar

    Many people nowadays forget that rural farm and ranch states were once bations of leftism. Until George W. was elected the second time, Texas was really pretty liberal politically.

  139. njguy73 says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    She needs to shake it off and calm down.

  140. njguy73 says:
    @Abe

    It’s not about money. It’s about power.

    It doesn’t matter how much money you have. It’s about setting the rules as to who it’s forbidden to bad-mouth, and enforcing the rules with violence.

  141. @YetAnotherAnon

    People who use the non-word “concerning”‘ should be put in public stocks right next to those who use curate as a verb.

  142. @South Texas Guy

    Yes, that article shows that Sam Jacobs should also seek help. How about a little of this?

    https://conversableeconomist.blogspot.com/2014/04/how-milton-friedman-helped-invent.html

    or this:

    https://lightfromtheright.com/2015/02/24/milton-friedman-the-2-withholding-form-and-the-underground-economy/

    Better still:

    https://fee.org/articles/wartime-origins-of-modern-income-tax-withholding/

    We all have our opinions, and mine is that Friedman was about as much a libertarian as Hillary Clinton is.

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
  143. @South Texas Guy

    The entire Branch Davidian raid was an ATF publicity stunt that went badly wrong. 80+ American citizens were burned to death by their government, and no one was punished for it.

  144. njguy73 says:
    @Twodees Partain

    What has happened is that the Boomers have been so culturally dominant for the past five decades, late-wave Silents (born 1940-1945) and early-wave GenXers (born 1961-1964) have taken on Boomer attitudes.

    This is not unprecedented. The Transcendental Generation (Abe Lincoln, Jeff Davis, Robert E. Lee) had a similar impact.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  145. Feryl says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    There was a massive baby boom from about 1987-1993, when the very large late Boomer cohort had lots of kids. No major jump in crime in the 2000’s. Also, the 1973-1980 cohort was very small yet teen violence and crime was a major problem in the late 80’s and early 90’s.

    Crime rates declined among all age groups in the late 90’s, however, the teen crime rate fell most dramatically. Why? People born in the 1980’s committed much less crime, as teenagers, then the cohorts born from the mid-1950’s-late 1970’s. The “street kid” phenomena was pretty common with late Boomers and X-ers (teen runaways, teen prostitutes, teen pick-pockets), but markedly less common with the other cohorts.

    The “white death” trend really spiked in the 2010’s due to the very troubled late Boomer cohort reaching middle age. And it remains a problem with early X-ers now firmly into middle age.

    There’s nothing “bogus” about summarizing the over-all trajectory of different generations, be it in terms of economic trends, cultural tastes, or behavioral tendencies.

    BTW, Gen Z is even less violent and criminal than Millennials were/are. Gen Z self-reports less sex, violence, and drug use than young Boomers, X-ers, and Millennials did. And this is backed up by today’s middle and high schools being substantially less violent than they were in the 1970’s-1990’s (school fist fights and knife fights peaked in the late 70’s, due to the “Exorcist” cohort born in the early 1960’s who have been over-represented on measures of social pathology compared to other cohorts), and medical stats indicating low rates of teen pregnancy.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Rob McX
  146. the “Exorcist” cohort born in the early 1960’s who have been over-represented on measures of social pathology

    So what you’re saying is that as America is getting less white, America is getting less criminal. That’s counterintuitive, to say the least.

    Is all our population growth coming from Japan?

  147. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Kronos

    She wrote a lot of catchy songs, and she’s also a good performer. I don’t think that’s analogous to winning the lottery.

  148. Anon[362] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Baby Boomer blacks were always the biggest driver of crime in NYC because of their large demographic numbers. Now they’re either dead, in jail, or too elderly to get away with it. Secondly, New York is too expensive for most petty criminals to live in. Third, a chunk of the underclass moved to California for the legal weed, and they’re lying around on LA and San Fran street corners right now. A forth option is that Freakonomics is right, aborting unwanted black babies is getting rid of the black criminal population, but the effects are only showing up slowly. A fifth option, which may be more accurate, is that a significant amount of northern black criminal families have moved south to places like Atlanta where there are more jobs for blacks, but where the crime is getting worse.

  149. Anon[362] • Disclaimer says:
    @Feryl

    There’s a definite behavioral difference between Boomers + Gen X vs. Millennials. Millennials are, on the whole, tamer, more conformist, and they believe everything they’re told more than their elders.

    There’s a natural Darwinian tendency for a culture to reach an equilibrium of sorts. Chaos in a society eventually dies down as poor-quality gene lines die out and defective people who cannot get along in their society don’t breed. The tamer, more conformist part of society slowly expands into a new status quo. In a sense our SJW era is like the change that took place when the Victorian era took over from the Regency, and the Victorian middle class became was shocked and disgusted by the morals of their elders.

    Too bad the new status quo is suicidal and out of touch with reality.

  150. @Anonymouse

    Riverdale just north of the Bronx

    Believe it or not, Riverdale is actually part of the Bronx.

  151. @South Texas Guy

    There are only five boroughs of NYC. When someone mentions the sixth borough, they are referring to an area that is cultural similar to, but not physically part of NYC, such as Hudson County, New Jersey.

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
  152. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Feryl

    Crime rates declined among all age groups in the late 90’s, however, the teen crime rate fell most dramatically. Why?

    It has been suggested that there was a shift among drug users from uppers like cocaine to downers like heroin.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  153. @Reg Cæsar

    Libertarians don’t screw anyone over. They simply allow people the means to screw themselves directly, rather than via a middleman.

    I like you, Reg, but anyone who plays poker knows it’s a hell of an advantage to have a higher chip stack (hence the phrase, ‘Big Stack Poker’).

    When the tax rate was at 90 percent back in the 50s, Friedman, Hayek, et. al. made sense. Not so today. Right now what we have is the economic equilatent of running up the numbers in a sports game. Rockefeller had nowhere near the power that the dot.com guys or the hedge fund guys do, and he personally controlled a greater share of the economy.

    • Replies: @Muggles
  154. @ScarletNumber

    There are only five boroughs of NYC. When someone mentions the sixth borough, they are referring to an area that is cultural similar to, but not physically part of NYC, such as Hudson County, New Jersey.

    Is that like the Elizabeth, Hoboken area? I’ve been to both, but I’m asking because I don’t know.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  155. Realist says:

    Any democrat would eat a shit sandwich on prime time to be nominated…to a titular position under the dominion of the Deep State.

  156. @Twodees Partain

    We all have our opinions, and mine is that Friedman was about as much a libertarian as Hillary Clinton is.

    We might be splitting hairs, but I guess we’ll agree to disagree. Also, not sure it’s true, but Margaret Thathcher was credited with being on the team that invented soft serve ice cream. And Dairy Queen is great.

  157. Rob McX says:
    @Feryl

    There was a massive baby boom from about 1987-1993…

    I think Steve Sailer mentioned somewhere that this was a result of the 1986 illegal alien amnesty

    • Replies: @Feryl
  158. Trutherator says: • Website
    @Moshe

    Hubris and hate for God show willful ignorance. How dumb is it to think the mud created life by throwing a bunch of sun at it?

  159. danand says:

    Out here in Oakland, CA we too are taking a stab at increasing crime:

  160. Muggles says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Re: Ford vs. Ferrari film.

    From what I just read that film led the pack in weekend grosses. Over $30 million. As I recall all other films generated only about $10 million or less. Theater film is a dying business.

    Basically, few are watching “Woke” made movies. Eventually Hollywood will get over that fad.

    Most female actresses/comics can’t hold an audience as major attractions and there aren’t enough talented nonwhites to fill all of the now mandatory quotas on remade plots (e.g. Terminator).

    And while many actors are gay, few are willing to out themselves until their careers are very advanced, if then. “Gay” roles aren’t enough to draw ordinary audiences. Liberace drew huge audiences because he pretended he wasn’t gay and audiences pretended to believe that.

  161. Muggles says:
    @South Texas Guy

    The marginal income tax rate for anyone in a high tax state like CA, NY, MA, CT, etc is over 50%. Tax shelters are a thing of the past.

    No one actually paid that 90% tax rate back in the 40–50s because back then all sorts of deductions were available (most now gone) and actual tax shelters (affecting ordinary income) were very effective in offsetting large income. That doesn’t happen any more until you sell off an investment with accumulated net losses.

    People changing the tax rates/laws aren’t stupid. They knew that by lowering rates but eliminating ways to avoid high rates you would end up with more income tax proceeds. Then about 30 years ago the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) scheme was added to eliminate most ordinary deductions for high income earners and now, millions of middle class taxpayers as well.

    The “chip stack” referenced by a commentator is not due to ordinary income being taxed at lower rates, but huge capital gains (taxed favorably as always) by mainly tech founders who cashed out.

    Billionaires and multimillionaires are not Scrooge McDucks with cash and gold stuffed in huge vaults. Nearly all of their wealth is invested, often in a single firm (unless they sell out; even them they are often forced to keep much of that in a single original business).

    Envy is not a sound basis for tax policy or any economic policy.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    , @Anonymous
  162. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Muggles

    Theater film is a dying business.

    Basically, few are watching “Woke” made movies. Eventually Hollywood will get over that fad.

    Theatre film is a dying business for various reasons. You could get rid of the wokeness and it would still be a dying business.

  163. If Michael Bloomberg sincerely regrets having confiscated all those illegally owned handguns from blacks and Hispanics, shouldn’t he petition to have them returned to their former owners? I realize that may be impractical, as confiscated guns are routinely destroyed, but Bloomberg could at least compensate the victims of his policy for the price of a replacement illegal gun, plus lost wages for the time its owner was denied the use of the tool of his trade. Say, $500 for the gun plus $2,000 for lost income. Bloomberg could easily afford this and it would demonstrate that he was truly sorry for what he did and now understands that illegal handguns in the hands of urban blacks and Hispanics are not the problem, legal rifles in the hands of rural whites are.

  164. @njguy73

    No, what has happened is that the media has convinced people that there can be a generation born in 1940-45 who are OK, and another generation born starting one year later who are totally different and can be blamed for everything that’s wrong.

    This whole ” _ Generation” meme is bullshit.

    Tom Brokaw, that lying asshat scalawag, named the people who were of age to fight in WWII “The Greatest Generation”. How were those victims all members of the same generation, and why are they the greatest? Why is it that the Baby Boomer generation is the one generation whose very name is used as a pejorative?

    Transcendental Generation my ass. Who came up with that one? Calling someone a Boomer is intended as an insult, usually. Every other generation that people can be labeled with is fine, I guess.

  165. @Muggles

    “Liberace drew huge audiences because he pretended he wasn’t gay and audiences pretended to believe that.”

    Kind of like how Lindsey Graham pretends not to be gay and his fellow neocons pretend to believe it.

  166. A123 says:
    @Muggles

    Most female actresses/comics can’t hold an audience as major attractions and there aren’t enough talented nonwhites to fill all of the now mandatory quotas on remade plots (e.g. Terminator).

    It is more complicated than this. There is apparently deliberate miscasting.

    They are going to do the comic book series “Thor: Goddess of Thunder” as a movie. This could have been a good idea. Imagine Gwendoline Christie wielding Mjolnir…. she could intimidate the bad guys into surrendering by walking into the room carrying the hammer.


    It could have been convincing. Instead they miscast Natalie Portman. A good actress who is totally wrong for the role.

    PEACE

  167. Feryl says: • Website
    @Rob McX

    The birth rate for all races went up in the late 80’s and early 90’s. This was the peak of the religious right and anti-abortion movement. Drug use went down quite a bit in the late 80’s, too, and stayed (relatively) low through 1992.

  168. Feryl says: • Website
    @dfordoom

    Among normies, all forms of drug use declined from 1986-1992. Then they went up from about 1993-2001, although drug use levels were still well below what they were in the 1970’s and early 80’s. It’s true that heroin use among high school seniors peaked in 1996, but that was only 1.6% of high school seniors.

    From the Monitoring the Future stats regarding high school senior drug use (did you use this drug in the last 12 months, first survey was done in in 1975):

    Highest use
    1975: Sedatives (11%)
    1976: Cigarettes (39%)
    1977: Tranqualizers (11%)
    1979: Marijuana (51%)
    Heavy drinking (40%)
    1981: Speed (26%*)
    1985: Cocaine (13%)
    Crack (4%)

    1995: Huffing (8%)
    1996: LSD (8%)
    Heroin (1.6%)
    1998: Meth (3%)
    2001: Ecstacy (9%)
    Ritalin (5.1%)
    2003: Non-Heroin narcotics (10%)
    2004: Steroids (2.5%)

    Lowest use:

    1991: Heroin (0.5%)
    1992: Marijuana (22%)
    Non-heroin narcotics (3%)
    Sedatives (3%)
    2009: LSD (2%)
    Adderall (5.4%)
    2010: Heavy Drinking (21%)
    2011: Steroids (1.2%
    2012: Adderall (7.6%)
    2013: Huffing (2%)
    Cocaine (3%)
    Crack (1%)
    Cigarettes (18%)
    2016
    Ritalin (1.2%)

    *There may have been confusion regarding the nature of “speed” on some of the early 80’s surveys.

  169. @Muggles

    Billionaires and multimillionaires are not Scrooge McDucks with cash and gold stuffed in huge vaults.

    That is an excellent point. I think part of the Left’s (successful) message is that rich people do have big piles of cash lying around and are just being selfish by not sharing it with the needy.

  170. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Muggles

    Black entertainers and prizefighters, and Elvis Presley (because Col. Tom, an illegal immigrant and likely a refugee from a murder charge) often paid full marginal rate. They were either too dumb to know better or figured that paying the full boat would keep the government from going after them for other illegalities.

    White (and the smarter black) entertainers, athletes, prize winners, et al, usually didn’t pay full boat but most paid much more than the optimal rate a skilled tax attorney could arrange, because if you weren’t in the loop the ordinary accountants and lawyers had a vague idea of what to do but not exactly how far was established practice.

    It was taxation by who you knew, in other words.

    In today’s environment, we should have either no income taxes or a flat rate on income combined with taxes on consumption and a special sumptuary tax on Veblen goods designed to disparately impact those with the most political power, but, which would vary with the size and scope of government, to make it highly incentivized for the wealthy to support limited government and no deficit spending, so that the size and scope of government stay within the means of “the regular people” and to make American foreign military adventurism unpopular.

    Monkeys will fly out of Taylor Swift’s butt before that happens, though, and I know it.

    Causing most Americans to think of taxation the way most Frenchmen already do is probably the best we are going to do and the donkeys are doing that as well as can be expected. The federal government will have to go to VAT for the same reasons as the French when that happens, for better or worse.

  171. @South Texas Guy

    Hoboken and Jersey City, which both can be reached by subway from NYC. Not Elizabeth, which is on the other side of Newark. While Elizabeth borders NYC, it is connected to Staten Island via the Goethals Bridge.

  172. @Ripple Earthdevil

    Yeah. So you know who WON’T be joining Star Wars in theaters this CHRISTMAS season? Our numerous children.

  173. @Harry Baldwin

    I don’t recall anyone saying that the “Stop, question, & frisk ” policy during the Bloomberg administration was ineffective. The criticism at the time was that the policy served to hurt the feelings of the black thugs who routinely hung out on drug dealing street corners.

    Is Mayor Bloomberg now saying in 2019, that effective public policy is racist policy?

  174. @Feryl

    On behalf of Millennials everywhere, I apologize to older generations that my generation decided to rob, rape, and murder fewer people than Boomers and Gen X did.

    Point taken. But not to get into a pissing contest, it was liberal judges, and to a smaller extent, juries that led to the uptick in crime. I remember my bicycle being stolen in about 85 and the cops just said ‘well file a report.’ It was a really cool bicycle and a very harsh lesson on how the powers that be can screw you over.

    I vividly remember people not from my lower middle class neighborhood seeing people driving around, actively looking for stuff to steal.

    Like I said. Two movies. ‘Death Wish,’ and ‘Escape from New York.’ The second one was only possible because NYC and other big cities were such dystopian wastelands. I was something like nine or ten when it came out on cable and I snuck out of bed, but I got the entire concept of it. Men and women under 40 just don’t get how f#$#$ed up the entire thing was.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  175. @Anonymouse

    Agree, race relations in America are bad when there are two races in close quarters, but when you add more(especially low crime Hispanics and Asians), it paradoxically improves.

    Austin Race Relations are amazing, as far as I know everyone gets along, poor or rich, irrespective of racial group.

    Then again, Texas has plenty of land, so no fighting yet, maybe that will change in the future.

  176. @South Texas Guy

    Best part of Escape from New York:

  177. @Mike_from_SGV

    What a disgusting loser, a typical white liberal.

    Bloomberg is a Fellow White Person, not a “white liberal.”
    It’s almost as if he’s much more concerned with protecting his co-ethnics — many of whom live in NYC — from the effects of black violent crime than with protecting whites in flyoverland.

    Or something.

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