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The World Economic Forum is the organization that puts on the annual Davos Confab of the Insufferable.

Personally, I don’t think Lagos will ever have 88.3 million residents.

I’m reminded of the fine 1986 book about Mexico by the NYT’s Mexico City correspondent Alan Riding, Distant Neighbors. Riding took it as a given that Greater Mexico City’s population, then about 18 million, would grow to 30 million. But instead, Mexico City got so awful as its population kept going up that Mexican peasants moved to the United States instead, and Greater Mexico City is around 21 million today.

 
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  1. So these are the morons who actually believe this?
    https://esa.un.org/unpd/wpp/Download/Standard/Population/

    I have a bridge in Wakanda to sell them.

    • Replies: @Truth
    Liars and Clowns, nothing more.
    , @pyrrhus
    The real question is whether, when Africa's population starts to face mass starvation, the West will either admit hundreds of millions of Africans as refugees, or the West will start sending large amounts of food, and hence create its own food crisis, or...will sink the boats.
    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    Soylent Black.
  2. Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?

    • LOL: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?
     
    100%, Joe!

    Who the hell else would want to live there?

    , @ThirdWorldSteveReader
    Possibly not very diverse, but certainly very Diverse™.
    , @phil
    According to Robert Putnam its lack of diversity brings forth great co-operation and civic-mindedness.
    , @Barnard
    Yes, no white people so it will 100% diverse according to our experts.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?

     

    Hell, yeah:

    "Nigeria is a land of more than 500 languages and hundreds of ethnic groups..."

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/largest-ethnic-groups-in-nigeria.html
    , @Corvinus
    "Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?"

    Yes.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/08/opinion/what-makes-lagos-a-model-city.html

    https://erikawithak.me/growingup-lagos-nigeria

    http://www.iiste.org/Journals/index.php/DCS/article/view/11785
    , @Big Bill
    My goodness! Boy will it ever be diverse!

    For starters you have the Big Ten tribes: Hausa-Fulani, Igbo, Yoruba, Ijaw, Kanuri, Annang, Tiv, Ibibio, Etsako, and Efik.

    But there are at least 350 others. See https://answersafrica.com/nigerian-tribes.html

    By some estimates, Nigeria has at least 150-250 mutually unintelligible languages.
  3. I wonder if Google & Amazon are figuring out ways to sell more hair weave in Lagos? Who cares if Nigeria can’t build a functioning sewer system in Lagos, but they need their weave!

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/google-ceo-lagos-nigeria-represents-how-things-will-evolve-over-the-next-ten-to-20-years/

  4. @Buffalo Joe
    Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?

    Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?

    100%, Joe!

    Who the hell else would want to live there?

  5. Oil money is going into British schools in recent years.

    When schools began to struggle to fill their boarding places, they first turned to China, where local agents actively seek the new wealthy desiring the English public school experience. Then came the Russians who, with Nigerians, are now the fastest-growing population in British private schools.

    With fees of £30,000 a year, many boarding schools have already become decoupled from their traditional British middle-class roots and are now plugged into the global, ultra-wealthy elite. A British education, like a Knightsbridge penthouse, has become a commodity to be bought by foreigners who don’t even think about money, or at least not in the way there rest of us do.

    The social consequences of this are far-reaching. Country solicitors, provincial architects, university lecturers cannot send their children to the boarding schools they once attended. And British investment bankers dropping their children off on Sunday night look at the cars being driven by the guardians of the Russian, Chinese and Nigerian children, and for the first time in their lives they feel poor.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2013/11/five-star-schools/

    And London

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    And oil wealth also incompetently managed over there.

    Nigeria loses $380b to capital flight
    ...

    Giving details of the Board’s achievements, Wabote explained that most fabrication, engineering, and procurement in the oil and gas industry were done abroad prior to the enactment of the NOGICD Act in 2010 and it resulted in estimated capital flight of $380billion over the last 50 years. “Estimated job lost opportunities was in the region of two million. The narrative then was that nothing can be done in-country resulting in less than five per cent of in-country value addition,” he said.

     

    http://thenationonlineng.net/nigeria-loses-380b-capital-flight/
    , @Ed
    I follow the girl holding the dog, she’s a DJ.

    https://www.instagram.com/cuppymusic

    Her sister is a style blogger

    https://www.instagram.com/jtofashion

    The dad is in oil but I’m not sure if he actually works he posts a lot on instagram he often posts riding a bus in Nigeria or London.

    https://www.instagram.com/femiotedola
  6. So how much of the Africa part of the World’s Most Important Graph will end up elsewhere, and what percentages in the various candidate elsewheres?

    Will most European countries be majority black? How about the U.S.? China?

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Will most European countries be majority black? How about the U.S.? China?
     
    All formerly white countries will be majority black. China? Japan? Don't be daft.
    , @Anonymous
    The short answer is 'Yes'.

    I make one prediction: It's entirely dependent on the continued existence of the European Union.
    If the EU dissolves, certain European countries might still have a 'fighting chance' of remaining European.

    A paradox, of course, if there ever was one, and a paradox many still find hard to understand or believe, witness the flurry of continental Europeans who attack Brexit whenever mentioned in the third world immigration context.
    , @Joe Walker
    Will most European countries be majority black? How about the U.S.? China?

    Yes, if the Jewish-controlled media has its way.
  7. @Buffalo Joe
    Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?

    Possibly not very diverse, but certainly very Diverse™.

    • LOL: Anonymous Jew
  8. @Dmitry
    Oil money is going into British schools in recent years.

    When schools began to struggle to fill their boarding places, they first turned to China, where local agents actively seek the new wealthy desiring the English public school experience. Then came the Russians who, with Nigerians, are now the fastest-growing population in British private schools.
    ...

    With fees of £30,000 a year, many boarding schools have already become decoupled from their traditional British middle-class roots and are now plugged into the global, ultra-wealthy elite. A British education, like a Knightsbridge penthouse, has become a commodity to be bought by foreigners who don’t even think about money, or at least not in the way there rest of us do.


    ...

    The social consequences of this are far-reaching. Country solicitors, provincial architects, university lecturers cannot send their children to the boarding schools they once attended. And British investment bankers dropping their children off on Sunday night look at the cars being driven by the guardians of the Russian, Chinese and Nigerian children, and for the first time in their lives they feel poor.

     

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2013/11/five-star-schools/


    And London

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-EyOTIahDw

    And oil wealth also incompetently managed over there.

    Nigeria loses $380b to capital flight

    Giving details of the Board’s achievements, Wabote explained that most fabrication, engineering, and procurement in the oil and gas industry were done abroad prior to the enactment of the NOGICD Act in 2010 and it resulted in estimated capital flight of $380billion over the last 50 years. “Estimated job lost opportunities was in the region of two million. The narrative then was that nothing can be done in-country resulting in less than five per cent of in-country value addition,” he said.

    http://thenationonlineng.net/nigeria-loses-380b-capital-flight/

  9. I am sure that long before Lagos reaches 88 million, the dot-feather Google CEO will move himself and Google headquarters there so they can get a jump on the future.

  10. @BB753
    So these are the morons who actually believe this?
    https://esa.un.org/unpd/wpp/Download/Standard/Population/

    I have a bridge in Wakanda to sell them.

    Liars and Clowns, nothing more.

  11. @Buffalo Joe
    Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?

    According to Robert Putnam its lack of diversity brings forth great co-operation and civic-mindedness.

  12. @Buffalo Joe
    Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?

    Yes, no white people so it will 100% diverse according to our experts.

  13. Anonymous[112] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, have you ever read Mike Davis?

    normally youre interested in intellectuals around your age who were intimately influenced by living in los Angeles and California.

    he’s a wacko leftist but hey, that used to be part of California’s charm–when they were a creative minority:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Quartz

    “Planet of slums” adresses the Lagos and Brazilian shanty town ad infinitum question…

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "Steve, have you ever read Mike Davis?"

    A little:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/analysis-la-amp-the-apocalyptic-imagination/

    , @Tim Howells
    Agree, this was a very interesting read:

    https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Slums-Mike-Davis/dp/1844671607/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1532325275&sr=8-1&keywords=planet+slums+cities

  14. Regarding demographic projections, and inevitable flood of pseudo-“refugees” from the global South to the global North …

    Since the Establishment Media/Deep State/Elites are ruling out any political solution to the mass invasions swamping first world countries, the only demographic number that matters anymore is when will the number of fighting-age invader/fringeist males reaches rough parity with the number of fighting-age nativist/citizenist males? If the Establishment Deep State Elites can delay civil war until after that date, they will “win”, if the civil wars begin before that date, they will lose.

    What that date will be for each country is hard to say, since the cuckist governments are pretty good at obscuring those numbers. If I had to guess, I would estimate a generation hence for France and Sweden, two generations hence for Britain and Germany, and never for the Visegrad countries and Finland.

    There are some wildcards in the deck, such as last-minute Mariel Boat Lift-type reinforcements for the Fringeists, and Identity Europa-type reinforcements for the nativeists.

    The US is a somewhat different case, since 1) the US has always had an embedded black population who are both citizens and fringe-y, but also has more experience and socio-cultural accommodation for them, 2) the primary invader populations, Catholic Mexican campesinos, are less hostile to their native hosts than are the European invader populations, and 3) the nativist population is much more heavily armed than anyone else.

    Of course, if the Establishment Deep State Elites “win” they will at best only preside over comprehensively wrecked countries, or more likely they will be devoured by their own foot soldiers, but they are apparently too stupid to foresee this.

  15. So Lagos, Nigeria will never have 88.3 million people because much of its population will move to Europe? Not very reassuring.

  16. @Buffalo Joe
    Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?

    Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?

    Hell, yeah:

    “Nigeria is a land of more than 500 languages and hundreds of ethnic groups…”

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/largest-ethnic-groups-in-nigeria.html

    • Replies: @Okechukwu

    “Nigeria is a land of more than 500 languages and hundreds of ethnic groups…”
     
    I know you're being facetious but this is actually true. Nigeria's motto is "Diversity is Our Strength." Diversity is about more than just skin color. Besides, Nigerians exhibit a full spectrum of skin tones from dark to fair.
  17. Personally, I don’t think Lagos will ever have 88.3 million residents.

    That would be well over twice the population of Tokyo but with very few Japanese residents. So that’s a safe bet.

    But Lagos has a pleasant climate for Africa. It’s about 85 deg F year round there. Not San Francisco, but OK. It too has a deep water port. With someone else’s money and my enthusiasm we could invest in some real estate there.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I strongly doubt that it has a 'pleasant climate'.
  18. “Nigeria is a land of more than 500 languages and hundreds of ethnic groups…”

    All happen to be one shade of black or another. Want that be fun to negotiate?

  19. It makes perfect sense to me. My lab puppy gained eight pounds this month—I think she’ll weigh 10,000 pounds when she turns 100 in 2118.

    • Replies: @Holden McGroin III
    Yep, the math checks out
  20. “In 100 years the world’s biggest cities will be in Africa.”

    …and everybody there will drive flying cars.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    …and everybody there will drive flying cars.

     

    Powered by Musk potions.

    But, to update the old saw about amphibious vehicles, these yam rockets will drive like planes, and fly like cars.
    , @penskefile
    Hah - this reminds me of the Nigerian Uber driver who picked up me and my family in LA back during spring break.

    I was making small talk with him about Uber and what work he did before, which got him going on his alleged previous career as an engineer in Tampa. He claims he invented a flying car, and gave the patents to the US government. Then he steadily went more and more off the rails talking about getting calls from Ron Brown (former Commerce secty who died in a mysterious plane crash) and how he was on personal terms with Bill Clinton.

    As we neared our destination, he literally began shouting about racism and bias and I was like "this looks crowded ahead, how about you drop us off right now"

    I contemplated letting Uber know they have a schizophrenic maniac as a driver, but decided not to risk the racism blowback.
  21. @Buzz Mohawk
    "In 100 years the world's biggest cities will be in Africa."

    ...and everybody there will drive flying cars.

    https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170406101320-06-rocket-man-super-169.jpg

    …and everybody there will drive flying cars.

    Powered by Musk potions.

    But, to update the old saw about amphibious vehicles, these yam rockets will drive like planes, and fly like cars.

  22. @Buffalo Joe
    Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?
    • Replies: @neutral
    Seriously, stick to watching Hollywood productions about Wakanda, because there is absolutely no way Lagos can ever propagandized as anything but a terrible city to live in. I suggest you actually go there, because I have and there is zero chance of that place ever becoming a Singapore.
    , @Daniel Chieh


    So Nigeria, of all places, may be pointing the way to a strategy by which fragile states might begin to succeed: Devolve more power to cities from their corrupt and overcentralized national governments
     
    Which is still dubious, but probably the only way this could even succeed(and probably can't do 88 million). It needs to be a Singapore-equivalent, with local governance and effective authoritarianism, and hilariously, controls on intra-metropolitan use of services/migration.

    Incidentally, the writer himself notes that the increasing population makes governance harder.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Corvinus, thank you for the links.
  23. @Anonymous
    Steve, have you ever read Mike Davis?


    normally youre interested in intellectuals around your age who were intimately influenced by living in los Angeles and California.

    he's a wacko leftist but hey, that used to be part of California's charm--when they were a creative minority:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Quartz


    "Planet of slums" adresses the Lagos and Brazilian shanty town ad infinitum question...

    “Steve, have you ever read Mike Davis?”

    A little:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/analysis-la-amp-the-apocalyptic-imagination/

    • Replies: @Anon
    The last chapter of Ecology of Fear became my reading list for about a year after I read it. Davis catalogs a bunch of apocalyptic novels that were set in Los Angeles. I read a bunch of them. Ape and Essence really freaked me out. I finally stopped reading the books when I realized that my Amazon history had a permanent record of my having ordered a pretty nasty, racist, terrorist-connected book that Davis had mentioned. I had visions of the FBI visiting.

    Re: Tornados, my sister lived in a new development on the inland side of Los Angeles. At Thanksgiving I mentioned this crazy book I had just read that said that Los Angeles was statistically the tornado capital of the country. Her mouth opened, and her eyes looked up to the ceiling like she was thinking about something for a couple of seconds, and then she said, "Actually ... we had a tornado a couple of weeks back. It blew off the roofs of a couple of houses." After that I got in the habit of mentioning tornados from time to time when talking to Angelenos, and Davis was right: Tornados are not part of the L.A. narrative, so when they happen they may or may not get a brief local news mention, but everyone just thinks they are a fluke, "Hey that was weird!," and they they go back to their business and never talk about it. But if you make the effort to ask, a surprising number of Los Angeles residents have experienced a tornado in their neighborhoods.
  24. “City of Vibranium”.

    This is going to burn spectacularly.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    Vibranium or Vibrantium?
  25. Anonymous[424] • Disclaimer says:

    phil says:
    July 23, 2018 at 2:42 am GMT

    According to Robert Putnam its lack of diversity brings forth great co-operation and civic-mindedness.

    That’s actually correct, snarky Phil. Relative to the sub-saharan mean.

    But the NWO is making sure the Muslims “diversify” Nigeria and the level of social cooperation — such as it is — is giving way to murderous chaos.

    Putnam is right. As if his thesis is such a stretch. It’s just a variant to the tragedy of the commons.

    It’s all about concentric rings of close and distant family, snarky Phil.

  26. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Lagos, Nigeria will have 88.3 million people. Learn more about Africa’s growing population!

    OMG! It’s so exciting!!!

    • Replies: @athEIst
    As a kid, I watched Art Linkletter whose guest was going to sell some product in Nigeria. Art said aren't those people poor and the reply was Yes, but there are 88 million of them! Nigerians, not Lagosians. That was 60 years ago.
    Isn't the entire southward looking coast of West Africa to become a solid conurbation? To house the 4 BBIILLLLIIOONN Africans of 2100.
  27. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    So how much of the Africa part of the World's Most Important Graph will end up elsewhere, and what percentages in the various candidate elsewheres?

    Will most European countries be majority black? How about the U.S.? China?

    Will most European countries be majority black? How about the U.S.? China?

    All formerly white countries will be majority black. China? Japan? Don’t be daft.

  28. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:

    Perhaps not Lagos, Nigeria, but Lagos-on-Thames, England – the city formerly called ‘London’ -most certainly *WILL*. After all it’s Economist/New Labour central.

    But of course, expect The Economist to decamp to whiter climes, (‘it’s all down to the fresh mountain air and the kids’ education’), much before then.

  29. It’s almost like the wealthiest on Earth want to rule over a dystopia.

    • Replies: @njguy73

    It’s almost like the wealthiest on Earth want to rule over a dystopia.

     

    With all due respect: No shit, Sherlock.

    Of course you want to rule over a dystopia. So people will beg you for favors. Who the hell would want to rule over a nice place? Everyone's happy, nobody needs to be governed.

    Do I have to explain everything here?
    , @athEIst
    The rich could get twice as rich, but that would just double the price of 200 million dollar houses and 100 million "art".

    But if you could get everybody else twice as poor, now that would be something.
  30. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    So how much of the Africa part of the World's Most Important Graph will end up elsewhere, and what percentages in the various candidate elsewheres?

    Will most European countries be majority black? How about the U.S.? China?

    The short answer is ‘Yes’.

    I make one prediction: It’s entirely dependent on the continued existence of the European Union.
    If the EU dissolves, certain European countries might still have a ‘fighting chance’ of remaining European.

    A paradox, of course, if there ever was one, and a paradox many still find hard to understand or believe, witness the flurry of continental Europeans who attack Brexit whenever mentioned in the third world immigration context.

  31. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @jJay

    Personally, I don’t think Lagos will ever have 88.3 million residents.
     
    That would be well over twice the population of Tokyo but with very few Japanese residents. So that's a safe bet.

    But Lagos has a pleasant climate for Africa. It's about 85 deg F year round there. Not San Francisco, but OK. It too has a deep water port. With someone else's money and my enthusiasm we could invest in some real estate there.

    I strongly doubt that it has a ‘pleasant climate’.

  32. @Anonymous
    Steve, have you ever read Mike Davis?


    normally youre interested in intellectuals around your age who were intimately influenced by living in los Angeles and California.

    he's a wacko leftist but hey, that used to be part of California's charm--when they were a creative minority:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Quartz


    "Planet of slums" adresses the Lagos and Brazilian shanty town ad infinitum question...

    Agree, this was a very interesting read:

  33. The WEF’s attitude toward Lagos’s population firecast seems rather celebratory.

  34. @Daniel Williams
    It makes perfect sense to me. My lab puppy gained eight pounds this month—I think she'll weigh 10,000 pounds when she turns 100 in 2118.

    Yep, the math checks out

  35. From the article:

    “In the Middle East, a larger youth population has coincided with greater social empowerment. Women often married young and rarely worked outside the home. Now, more girls are attending school and more women are entering the labour force. Couples are waiting longer to marry and are having fewer children.”

    Seriously, wtf. Aren’t the civil wars, ISIS, terrorism, and mass flight to Europe a consequence of inability of Middle Eastern states to deal with needs & aspirations of their youth? “greater social empowerment”? Sometimes I feel that writers of this article are deliberately trolling us.

  36. @Corvinus
    "Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?"

    Yes.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/08/opinion/what-makes-lagos-a-model-city.html

    https://erikawithak.me/growingup-lagos-nigeria

    http://www.iiste.org/Journals/index.php/DCS/article/view/11785

    Seriously, stick to watching Hollywood productions about Wakanda, because there is absolutely no way Lagos can ever propagandized as anything but a terrible city to live in. I suggest you actually go there, because I have and there is zero chance of that place ever becoming a Singapore.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Seriously, stick to watching Hollywood productions about Wakanda, because there is absolutely no way Lagos can ever propagandized as anything but a terrible city to live in."

    It's not about propaganda, it's about facts. So what specifically from the sources I listed do you have your knickers in a twist about.

    "I suggest you actually go there, because I have and there is zero chance of that place ever becoming a Singapore."

    Maybe. Maybe not.

    https://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/marketing-and-sales/our-insights/africas-growing-giant-nigerias-new-retail-economy
    , @Okechukwu

    Seriously, stick to watching Hollywood productions about Wakanda, because there is absolutely no way Lagos can ever propagandized as anything but a terrible city to live in. I suggest you actually go there, because I have and there is zero chance of that place ever becoming a Singapore.
     
    It depends on which Lagos. There's the Lagos that's drab and shabby. Then there's the Lagos that offers a lifestyle that most westerners can only dream about.

    I don't particularly like Lagos. I don't like to live like some maharaja with servants and drivers and a security detail. I find extravagant displays of wealth unseemly. I hope they get past this phase and soon. The white people that are being out-smarted into emptying their bank accounts for these guys need to wise up. But it's a forlorn hope that will probably never be realized.

  37. • Replies: @Joe Walker
    Wasn't Brexit supposed to put an end to all that?
  38. Anon[259] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    "Steve, have you ever read Mike Davis?"

    A little:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/analysis-la-amp-the-apocalyptic-imagination/

    The last chapter of Ecology of Fear became my reading list for about a year after I read it. Davis catalogs a bunch of apocalyptic novels that were set in Los Angeles. I read a bunch of them. Ape and Essence really freaked me out. I finally stopped reading the books when I realized that my Amazon history had a permanent record of my having ordered a pretty nasty, racist, terrorist-connected book that Davis had mentioned. I had visions of the FBI visiting.

    Re: Tornados, my sister lived in a new development on the inland side of Los Angeles. At Thanksgiving I mentioned this crazy book I had just read that said that Los Angeles was statistically the tornado capital of the country. Her mouth opened, and her eyes looked up to the ceiling like she was thinking about something for a couple of seconds, and then she said, “Actually … we had a tornado a couple of weeks back. It blew off the roofs of a couple of houses.” After that I got in the habit of mentioning tornados from time to time when talking to Angelenos, and Davis was right: Tornados are not part of the L.A. narrative, so when they happen they may or may not get a brief local news mention, but everyone just thinks they are a fluke, “Hey that was weird!,” and they they go back to their business and never talk about it. But if you make the effort to ask, a surprising number of Los Angeles residents have experienced a tornado in their neighborhoods.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I can recall a few tornados that came in off the ocean and did a little damage in LA. They're usually called Sea Spouts.

    Are tornados associated with thunder storms?

    I was in one in an office building in Chicago in 1992. The tornado came in off the old railyards south of the Loop and smashed into the giant Sears Tower, sucking out some poor guy's window and all the work papers on his desk. But tornados would rather pick on trailer parks than skyscrapers, so that was the end of the tornado.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    After the movie Seven cane out in the ‘90s, a friend thought the part about the government tracking the killer via the books he bought or borrowed was wildly unrealistic. How times change.

    Has there ever been a tornado disaster movie set in Los Angeles (aside from Sharknado)? Seems more plausible than that one with the lava.
    , @Anonym
    Re: Tornados, my sister lived in a new development on the inland side of Los Angeles. At Thanksgiving I mentioned this crazy book I had just read that said that Los Angeles was statistically the tornado capital of the country.

    Seems dubious tbh.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Average_Annual_Tornado_Reports.jpg/800px-Average_Annual_Tornado_Reports.jpg
  39. @Anon
    So how much of the Africa part of the World's Most Important Graph will end up elsewhere, and what percentages in the various candidate elsewheres?

    Will most European countries be majority black? How about the U.S.? China?

    Will most European countries be majority black? How about the U.S.? China?

    Yes, if the Jewish-controlled media has its way.

  40. @eah
    https://twitter.com/AlfredAlbion/status/1021120847191293952

    Wasn’t Brexit supposed to put an end to all that?

    • Replies: @eah
    No, of course not -- Brexit = Britain's exit from the EU -- this has nothing directly to do with immigration from outside the EU (eg Nigeria) -- that's a completely different matter -- which may come as a surprise to some who voted for Brexit -- but that is also a completely different matter.
  41. @Anon
    The last chapter of Ecology of Fear became my reading list for about a year after I read it. Davis catalogs a bunch of apocalyptic novels that were set in Los Angeles. I read a bunch of them. Ape and Essence really freaked me out. I finally stopped reading the books when I realized that my Amazon history had a permanent record of my having ordered a pretty nasty, racist, terrorist-connected book that Davis had mentioned. I had visions of the FBI visiting.

    Re: Tornados, my sister lived in a new development on the inland side of Los Angeles. At Thanksgiving I mentioned this crazy book I had just read that said that Los Angeles was statistically the tornado capital of the country. Her mouth opened, and her eyes looked up to the ceiling like she was thinking about something for a couple of seconds, and then she said, "Actually ... we had a tornado a couple of weeks back. It blew off the roofs of a couple of houses." After that I got in the habit of mentioning tornados from time to time when talking to Angelenos, and Davis was right: Tornados are not part of the L.A. narrative, so when they happen they may or may not get a brief local news mention, but everyone just thinks they are a fluke, "Hey that was weird!," and they they go back to their business and never talk about it. But if you make the effort to ask, a surprising number of Los Angeles residents have experienced a tornado in their neighborhoods.

    I can recall a few tornados that came in off the ocean and did a little damage in LA. They’re usually called Sea Spouts.

    Are tornados associated with thunder storms?

    I was in one in an office building in Chicago in 1992. The tornado came in off the old railyards south of the Loop and smashed into the giant Sears Tower, sucking out some poor guy’s window and all the work papers on his desk. But tornados would rather pick on trailer parks than skyscrapers, so that was the end of the tornado.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    But if you make the effort to ask, a surprising number of Los Angeles residents have experienced a tornado in their neighborhoods.
     
    Do you know what a tornado and a West Virginia divorce have in common?

    In each case, somebody's gonna lose a trailer.

    Ba-dump!
  42. @Anon
    The last chapter of Ecology of Fear became my reading list for about a year after I read it. Davis catalogs a bunch of apocalyptic novels that were set in Los Angeles. I read a bunch of them. Ape and Essence really freaked me out. I finally stopped reading the books when I realized that my Amazon history had a permanent record of my having ordered a pretty nasty, racist, terrorist-connected book that Davis had mentioned. I had visions of the FBI visiting.

    Re: Tornados, my sister lived in a new development on the inland side of Los Angeles. At Thanksgiving I mentioned this crazy book I had just read that said that Los Angeles was statistically the tornado capital of the country. Her mouth opened, and her eyes looked up to the ceiling like she was thinking about something for a couple of seconds, and then she said, "Actually ... we had a tornado a couple of weeks back. It blew off the roofs of a couple of houses." After that I got in the habit of mentioning tornados from time to time when talking to Angelenos, and Davis was right: Tornados are not part of the L.A. narrative, so when they happen they may or may not get a brief local news mention, but everyone just thinks they are a fluke, "Hey that was weird!," and they they go back to their business and never talk about it. But if you make the effort to ask, a surprising number of Los Angeles residents have experienced a tornado in their neighborhoods.

    After the movie Seven cane out in the ‘90s, a friend thought the part about the government tracking the killer via the books he bought or borrowed was wildly unrealistic. How times change.

    Has there ever been a tornado disaster movie set in Los Angeles (aside from Sharknado)? Seems more plausible than that one with the lava.

  43. @El Dato
    "City of Vibranium".

    This is going to burn spectacularly.

    Vibranium or Vibrantium?

  44. No idea if the following claims are 100% accurate, but they are alarming:

    Aktuell steigt die Bevölkerungszahl in Afrika um ca. 3 % jährlich. Das sind über 30.000.000, und zwar jedes Jahr, 100.000 jeden Tag, Tendenz steigend. Es gibt nur Geburtenkontrolle oder Chaos.

    The population of Africa rises approx 3% every year — this represents: 30m people (so a new Lagos every 3 years); approx 110k every day — and at the moment these numbers are rising — without lower birth rates there will chaos in Africa.

    Especially troubling for the migration problem:

    The population in Africa has grown rapidly over the last 40 years and it has a relatively young population, with more than half of the population under 25 in some states. — per this link, there are nearly 100m people in Ethiopia alone.

    “The growth in Africa’s working-age population will be relentless and inevitable,”…

    Deutschland/Africa:

  45. Even with the ridiculous amounts of foreign aid sent to Africa, I think its current birth rates get to the point where war, disease, famine or what have you put the brakes on population growth long before we get to that point. The question is whether the Western countries try to keep the subsequent masses of refugees/migrants/whatever on their home continent or decide to destroy their territory once and for all and let them in on humanitarian grounds.

    • Replies: @julius caesar
    Europe will let them in.
    , @Intelligent Dasein

    The question is whether the Western countries try to keep the subsequent masses of refugees/migrants/whatever on their home continent or decide to destroy their territory once and for all and let them in on humanitarian grounds.
     
    This is the number one national security question facing the West. If we let in sick, starving, war-ravaged Africans at a time when their continent is collapsing, it's only a matter of time until we import Ebola or some other equally devastating disease. This cannot be allowed to happen.

    Will we find a leader with the backbone to sink the refugee ships and firebomb the African coastal cities in order to quarantine the continent and prevent a global pandemic? Or will we get another Obama, who would relish the opportunity to inflict plague and misery on the West, and would do everything in his power make sure we shared in the crisis?

    The immigration problem is existential in more ways then one, and the stakes are infinitely high in every election. To my knowledge, it doesn't seem like anyone in the government is even wargaming this one. It was quite the opposite during the last major outbreak, when Obama's CDC chief went on television with his gay-voiced lisp and scolded, "How dare we abandon Liberia!"

    I thought his job was to protect America's public health. Here we have a top government official who either does not know or does not care about doing his job, who would rather virtue-signal and play the globalist medicine-woman than protect his countrymen. The enemy is deep, deep inside the gates and we are all doomed if we do not uproot them and banish their legacy forever.
    , @Bernardo Pizzaro Cortez Del Castro
    When France and Germany become Islamic States around the year 2045 they will completely stop accepting refugees and certainly not be accepting any sub-Saharan Africans. Islamic States do not accept refugees , they do not even accept Muslim Refugees.

    When Germany opened their borders to millions of Muslims they sealed their fate. Even if they stop accepting Muslim refugees next year they will have more Muslims than Christians in 25 years, due to the higher fertility of Muslims as the aboriginal European fertility remains well below replacement levels.
  46. @Anon
    The last chapter of Ecology of Fear became my reading list for about a year after I read it. Davis catalogs a bunch of apocalyptic novels that were set in Los Angeles. I read a bunch of them. Ape and Essence really freaked me out. I finally stopped reading the books when I realized that my Amazon history had a permanent record of my having ordered a pretty nasty, racist, terrorist-connected book that Davis had mentioned. I had visions of the FBI visiting.

    Re: Tornados, my sister lived in a new development on the inland side of Los Angeles. At Thanksgiving I mentioned this crazy book I had just read that said that Los Angeles was statistically the tornado capital of the country. Her mouth opened, and her eyes looked up to the ceiling like she was thinking about something for a couple of seconds, and then she said, "Actually ... we had a tornado a couple of weeks back. It blew off the roofs of a couple of houses." After that I got in the habit of mentioning tornados from time to time when talking to Angelenos, and Davis was right: Tornados are not part of the L.A. narrative, so when they happen they may or may not get a brief local news mention, but everyone just thinks they are a fluke, "Hey that was weird!," and they they go back to their business and never talk about it. But if you make the effort to ask, a surprising number of Los Angeles residents have experienced a tornado in their neighborhoods.

    Re: Tornados, my sister lived in a new development on the inland side of Los Angeles. At Thanksgiving I mentioned this crazy book I had just read that said that Los Angeles was statistically the tornado capital of the country.

    Seems dubious tbh.

    • Replies: @res
    And articles like this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/12/12/tornado-strikes-los-angeles-for-first-time-in-a-decade
  47. @Arclight
    Even with the ridiculous amounts of foreign aid sent to Africa, I think its current birth rates get to the point where war, disease, famine or what have you put the brakes on population growth long before we get to that point. The question is whether the Western countries try to keep the subsequent masses of refugees/migrants/whatever on their home continent or decide to destroy their territory once and for all and let them in on humanitarian grounds.

    Europe will let them in.

  48. @Buffalo Joe
    Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?

    My goodness! Boy will it ever be diverse!

    For starters you have the Big Ten tribes: Hausa-Fulani, Igbo, Yoruba, Ijaw, Kanuri, Annang, Tiv, Ibibio, Etsako, and Efik.

    But there are at least 350 others. See https://answersafrica.com/nigerian-tribes.html

    By some estimates, Nigeria has at least 150-250 mutually unintelligible languages.

  49. @Arclight
    Even with the ridiculous amounts of foreign aid sent to Africa, I think its current birth rates get to the point where war, disease, famine or what have you put the brakes on population growth long before we get to that point. The question is whether the Western countries try to keep the subsequent masses of refugees/migrants/whatever on their home continent or decide to destroy their territory once and for all and let them in on humanitarian grounds.

    The question is whether the Western countries try to keep the subsequent masses of refugees/migrants/whatever on their home continent or decide to destroy their territory once and for all and let them in on humanitarian grounds.

    This is the number one national security question facing the West. If we let in sick, starving, war-ravaged Africans at a time when their continent is collapsing, it’s only a matter of time until we import Ebola or some other equally devastating disease. This cannot be allowed to happen.

    Will we find a leader with the backbone to sink the refugee ships and firebomb the African coastal cities in order to quarantine the continent and prevent a global pandemic? Or will we get another Obama, who would relish the opportunity to inflict plague and misery on the West, and would do everything in his power make sure we shared in the crisis?

    The immigration problem is existential in more ways then one, and the stakes are infinitely high in every election. To my knowledge, it doesn’t seem like anyone in the government is even wargaming this one. It was quite the opposite during the last major outbreak, when Obama’s CDC chief went on television with his gay-voiced lisp and scolded, “How dare we abandon Liberia!”

    I thought his job was to protect America’s public health. Here we have a top government official who either does not know or does not care about doing his job, who would rather virtue-signal and play the globalist medicine-woman than protect his countrymen. The enemy is deep, deep inside the gates and we are all doomed if we do not uproot them and banish their legacy forever.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu

    Will we find a leader with the backbone to sink the refugee ships and firebomb the African coastal cities in order to quarantine the continent and prevent a global pandemic?
     
    You're an idiot.
    , @Brutusale
    Especially now:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/23/health/ebola-transmission-female-survivor.html
  50. @Uilleam Yr Alban
    It's almost like the wealthiest on Earth want to rule over a dystopia.

    It’s almost like the wealthiest on Earth want to rule over a dystopia.

    With all due respect: No shit, Sherlock.

    Of course you want to rule over a dystopia. So people will beg you for favors. Who the hell would want to rule over a nice place? Everyone’s happy, nobody needs to be governed.

    Do I have to explain everything here?

  51. @Steve Sailer
    I can recall a few tornados that came in off the ocean and did a little damage in LA. They're usually called Sea Spouts.

    Are tornados associated with thunder storms?

    I was in one in an office building in Chicago in 1992. The tornado came in off the old railyards south of the Loop and smashed into the giant Sears Tower, sucking out some poor guy's window and all the work papers on his desk. But tornados would rather pick on trailer parks than skyscrapers, so that was the end of the tornado.

    But if you make the effort to ask, a surprising number of Los Angeles residents have experienced a tornado in their neighborhoods.

    Do you know what a tornado and a West Virginia divorce have in common?

    In each case, somebody’s gonna lose a trailer.

    Ba-dump!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Do you know what a tornado and a West Virginia divorce have in common?

    In each case, somebody’s gonna lose a trailer.
     
    My former brother-in-law is a schoolteacher there. (Yes, there was a literal West Virginia divorce in the family. More than one, in fact.) 35 years ago, when he was just starting out, he would visit his pupils' families at home. And some of those homes did not have floors. The living room was dirt.

    So a trailer would have been a step or two up for them.
  52. @BB753
    So these are the morons who actually believe this?
    https://esa.un.org/unpd/wpp/Download/Standard/Population/

    I have a bridge in Wakanda to sell them.

    The real question is whether, when Africa’s population starts to face mass starvation, the West will either admit hundreds of millions of Africans as refugees, or the West will start sending large amounts of food, and hence create its own food crisis, or…will sink the boats.

    • Replies: @BB753
    You cannot walk thousands of miles if you're starving. Millions will starve anyway.
  53. @Corvinus
    "Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?"

    Yes.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/08/opinion/what-makes-lagos-a-model-city.html

    https://erikawithak.me/growingup-lagos-nigeria

    http://www.iiste.org/Journals/index.php/DCS/article/view/11785

    So Nigeria, of all places, may be pointing the way to a strategy by which fragile states might begin to succeed: Devolve more power to cities from their corrupt and overcentralized national governments

    Which is still dubious, but probably the only way this could even succeed(and probably can’t do 88 million). It needs to be a Singapore-equivalent, with local governance and effective authoritarianism, and hilariously, controls on intra-metropolitan use of services/migration.

    Incidentally, the writer himself notes that the increasing population makes governance harder.

    • Replies: @songbird
    I think that is the only rational, non-colonial model for Africa's future: coastal, authoritarian city states, with extreme border controls and selectively chosen population, and perhaps Mulberry harbors.

    They'd have to be built from the ground up though, and I don't see how a city like Lagos could turn into one.
  54. @neutral
    Seriously, stick to watching Hollywood productions about Wakanda, because there is absolutely no way Lagos can ever propagandized as anything but a terrible city to live in. I suggest you actually go there, because I have and there is zero chance of that place ever becoming a Singapore.

    “Seriously, stick to watching Hollywood productions about Wakanda, because there is absolutely no way Lagos can ever propagandized as anything but a terrible city to live in.”

    It’s not about propaganda, it’s about facts. So what specifically from the sources I listed do you have your knickers in a twist about.

    “I suggest you actually go there, because I have and there is zero chance of that place ever becoming a Singapore.”

    Maybe. Maybe not.

    https://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/marketing-and-sales/our-insights/africas-growing-giant-nigerias-new-retail-economy

    • Replies: @adreadline

    I suggest you actually go there, because I have and there is zero chance of that place ever becoming a Singapore.


     

    Maybe. Maybe not.


     

    There is a non-zero chance for Lagos to become as prosperous and organized as Singapore seems to be. The same goes for my own city, which is part of the world's most populated urban areas. But... being reasonable, that's likely not happening. Even with a super-strong retail economy. Even with middle-class families being led by white-collar honest hard working Nigerians. Even with improved public transportation and a dedicated street sweeper army. (God bless street sweepers. I mean it)

    Megalopolises (!) like mine, in what used to be called the Third World, go through chaotic growth. They do not resemble, say, American metropolitan areas when seen from space. I'm not an urban planner, I know next to nothing about the subject, but I don't see what can be done about that once the place is already home to 20+ million people.

    If you object, lecture or have someone lecture me, because I see no way around it. Maybe we'll just have to live with some level of rooted disorganization that is said not to be found in places like Singapore and First World cities. We probably cannot be like them. So perhaps we could start to try to improve things by being realistic? What about that?

  55. @Arclight
    Even with the ridiculous amounts of foreign aid sent to Africa, I think its current birth rates get to the point where war, disease, famine or what have you put the brakes on population growth long before we get to that point. The question is whether the Western countries try to keep the subsequent masses of refugees/migrants/whatever on their home continent or decide to destroy their territory once and for all and let them in on humanitarian grounds.

    When France and Germany become Islamic States around the year 2045 they will completely stop accepting refugees and certainly not be accepting any sub-Saharan Africans. Islamic States do not accept refugees , they do not even accept Muslim Refugees.

    When Germany opened their borders to millions of Muslims they sealed their fate. Even if they stop accepting Muslim refugees next year they will have more Muslims than Christians in 25 years, due to the higher fertility of Muslims as the aboriginal European fertility remains well below replacement levels.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Anonymous

    When Germany opened their borders to millions of Muslims they sealed their fate. Even if they stop accepting Muslim refugees next year they will have more Muslims than Christians in 25 years, due to the higher fertility of Muslims as the aboriginal European fertility remains well below replacement levels.

     

    It isn't just higher fertility. It's the demographic cohort. The refugees they did take are mostly of reproductive age. (Incidentally, they are also being encouraged to mate with German females.)
  56. @Buzz Mohawk
    "In 100 years the world's biggest cities will be in Africa."

    ...and everybody there will drive flying cars.

    https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170406101320-06-rocket-man-super-169.jpg

    Hah – this reminds me of the Nigerian Uber driver who picked up me and my family in LA back during spring break.

    I was making small talk with him about Uber and what work he did before, which got him going on his alleged previous career as an engineer in Tampa. He claims he invented a flying car, and gave the patents to the US government. Then he steadily went more and more off the rails talking about getting calls from Ron Brown (former Commerce secty who died in a mysterious plane crash) and how he was on personal terms with Bill Clinton.

    As we neared our destination, he literally began shouting about racism and bias and I was like “this looks crowded ahead, how about you drop us off right now”

    I contemplated letting Uber know they have a schizophrenic maniac as a driver, but decided not to risk the racism blowback.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    ...and how he was on personal terms with Bill Clinton.
     
    That part is entirely possible. However, had you inquired further, he'd surely have taken the Fifth.

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/19/exclusive-bill-clinton-still-silent-about-flights-on-pedophiles-sex-plane/
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    Uber is hitchhiking that you pay for.

    It's "like a box of chocolates." You never know what kind of freak you're gonna get.

    I don't know exactly why taxis and limousines are safer (something to do with licensing and regulation) but they are. I haven't hitchhiked since 1979, and I will never use Uber.
  57. eah says:
    @Joe Walker
    Wasn't Brexit supposed to put an end to all that?

    No, of course not — Brexit = Britain’s exit from the EU — this has nothing directly to do with immigration from outside the EU (eg Nigeria) — that’s a completely different matter — which may come as a surprise to some who voted for Brexit — but that is also a completely different matter.

  58. Anonymous[114] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bernardo Pizzaro Cortez Del Castro
    When France and Germany become Islamic States around the year 2045 they will completely stop accepting refugees and certainly not be accepting any sub-Saharan Africans. Islamic States do not accept refugees , they do not even accept Muslim Refugees.

    When Germany opened their borders to millions of Muslims they sealed their fate. Even if they stop accepting Muslim refugees next year they will have more Muslims than Christians in 25 years, due to the higher fertility of Muslims as the aboriginal European fertility remains well below replacement levels.

    When Germany opened their borders to millions of Muslims they sealed their fate. Even if they stop accepting Muslim refugees next year they will have more Muslims than Christians in 25 years, due to the higher fertility of Muslims as the aboriginal European fertility remains well below replacement levels.

    It isn’t just higher fertility. It’s the demographic cohort. The refugees they did take are mostly of reproductive age. (Incidentally, they are also being encouraged to mate with German females.)

  59. @Corvinus
    "Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?"

    Yes.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/08/opinion/what-makes-lagos-a-model-city.html

    https://erikawithak.me/growingup-lagos-nigeria

    http://www.iiste.org/Journals/index.php/DCS/article/view/11785

    Corvinus, thank you for the links.

  60. @pyrrhus
    The real question is whether, when Africa's population starts to face mass starvation, the West will either admit hundreds of millions of Africans as refugees, or the West will start sending large amounts of food, and hence create its own food crisis, or...will sink the boats.

    You cannot walk thousands of miles if you’re starving. Millions will starve anyway.

  61. Ed says:
    @Dmitry
    Oil money is going into British schools in recent years.

    When schools began to struggle to fill their boarding places, they first turned to China, where local agents actively seek the new wealthy desiring the English public school experience. Then came the Russians who, with Nigerians, are now the fastest-growing population in British private schools.
    ...

    With fees of £30,000 a year, many boarding schools have already become decoupled from their traditional British middle-class roots and are now plugged into the global, ultra-wealthy elite. A British education, like a Knightsbridge penthouse, has become a commodity to be bought by foreigners who don’t even think about money, or at least not in the way there rest of us do.


    ...

    The social consequences of this are far-reaching. Country solicitors, provincial architects, university lecturers cannot send their children to the boarding schools they once attended. And British investment bankers dropping their children off on Sunday night look at the cars being driven by the guardians of the Russian, Chinese and Nigerian children, and for the first time in their lives they feel poor.

     

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2013/11/five-star-schools/


    And London

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-EyOTIahDw

    I follow the girl holding the dog, she’s a DJ.

    https://www.instagram.com/cuppymusic

    Her sister is a style blogger

    https://www.instagram.com/jtofashion

    The dad is in oil but I’m not sure if he actually works he posts a lot on instagram he often posts riding a bus in Nigeria or London.

    https://www.instagram.com/femiotedola

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    Father of these girls seems a Nigerian oligarch. It says his value is $1.8 billion according to Forbes.

    https://www.forbes.com/profile/femi-otedola/#f8ceba4553a5

    It's funny how popular they are in instagram - just a place for them to show their nice cars. And the fact they live in London, not Nigeria.

  62. If Lagos has 88.3 million inhabitants in 2018, then they will be Chinese replicants.

    • Replies: @Kudzu Bob
    That should be 2118, of course. Will they still have typos a hundred years from now?
  63. @Jim Don Bob

    But if you make the effort to ask, a surprising number of Los Angeles residents have experienced a tornado in their neighborhoods.
     
    Do you know what a tornado and a West Virginia divorce have in common?

    In each case, somebody's gonna lose a trailer.

    Ba-dump!

    Do you know what a tornado and a West Virginia divorce have in common?

    In each case, somebody’s gonna lose a trailer.

    My former brother-in-law is a schoolteacher there. (Yes, there was a literal West Virginia divorce in the family. More than one, in fact.) 35 years ago, when he was just starting out, he would visit his pupils’ families at home. And some of those homes did not have floors. The living room was dirt.

    So a trailer would have been a step or two up for them.

  64. @penskefile
    Hah - this reminds me of the Nigerian Uber driver who picked up me and my family in LA back during spring break.

    I was making small talk with him about Uber and what work he did before, which got him going on his alleged previous career as an engineer in Tampa. He claims he invented a flying car, and gave the patents to the US government. Then he steadily went more and more off the rails talking about getting calls from Ron Brown (former Commerce secty who died in a mysterious plane crash) and how he was on personal terms with Bill Clinton.

    As we neared our destination, he literally began shouting about racism and bias and I was like "this looks crowded ahead, how about you drop us off right now"

    I contemplated letting Uber know they have a schizophrenic maniac as a driver, but decided not to risk the racism blowback.

    …and how he was on personal terms with Bill Clinton.

    That part is entirely possible. However, had you inquired further, he’d surely have taken the Fifth.

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/19/exclusive-bill-clinton-still-silent-about-flights-on-pedophiles-sex-plane/

  65. @penskefile
    Hah - this reminds me of the Nigerian Uber driver who picked up me and my family in LA back during spring break.

    I was making small talk with him about Uber and what work he did before, which got him going on his alleged previous career as an engineer in Tampa. He claims he invented a flying car, and gave the patents to the US government. Then he steadily went more and more off the rails talking about getting calls from Ron Brown (former Commerce secty who died in a mysterious plane crash) and how he was on personal terms with Bill Clinton.

    As we neared our destination, he literally began shouting about racism and bias and I was like "this looks crowded ahead, how about you drop us off right now"

    I contemplated letting Uber know they have a schizophrenic maniac as a driver, but decided not to risk the racism blowback.

    Uber is hitchhiking that you pay for.

    It’s “like a box of chocolates.” You never know what kind of freak you’re gonna get.

    I don’t know exactly why taxis and limousines are safer (something to do with licensing and regulation) but they are. I haven’t hitchhiked since 1979, and I will never use Uber.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Uber is hitchhiking that you pay for. It’s “like a box of chocolates.” You never know what kind of freak you’re gonna get.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6uLfermPU
  66. @Kudzu Bob
    If Lagos has 88.3 million inhabitants in 2018, then they will be Chinese replicants.

    That should be 2118, of course. Will they still have typos a hundred years from now?

  67. @Buzz Mohawk
    Uber is hitchhiking that you pay for.

    It's "like a box of chocolates." You never know what kind of freak you're gonna get.

    I don't know exactly why taxis and limousines are safer (something to do with licensing and regulation) but they are. I haven't hitchhiked since 1979, and I will never use Uber.

    Uber is hitchhiking that you pay for. It’s “like a box of chocolates.” You never know what kind of freak you’re gonna get.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    Monty Python's Flying Circus was hilarious. Never mind the turgid, Marxist analyses dumped on it recently in this blog's comment section. It was a welcome source of different entertainment for many young people when it was exported over here to America.
  68. @Reg Cæsar

    Uber is hitchhiking that you pay for. It’s “like a box of chocolates.” You never know what kind of freak you’re gonna get.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6uLfermPU

    Monty Python’s Flying Circus was hilarious. Never mind the turgid, Marxist analyses dumped on it recently in this blog’s comment section. It was a welcome source of different entertainment for many young people when it was exported over here to America.

  69. Ah, Western Europe. I’d love to hear Rick Steves commenting about now-everyday stories such as this:

    https://www.thelocal.fr/20180723/french-police-clear-450-migrants-from-camp-in-nantes

    Even in Nantes?

    • Replies: @songbird
    I used to like Rick Steves, but then I got the sense he was seriously pozzed when he showed video of a young African boy playing soccer by himself in an Irish town.
  70. @Ed
    I follow the girl holding the dog, she’s a DJ.

    https://www.instagram.com/cuppymusic

    Her sister is a style blogger

    https://www.instagram.com/jtofashion

    The dad is in oil but I’m not sure if he actually works he posts a lot on instagram he often posts riding a bus in Nigeria or London.

    https://www.instagram.com/femiotedola

    Father of these girls seems a Nigerian oligarch. It says his value is $1.8 billion according to Forbes.

    https://www.forbes.com/profile/femi-otedola/#f8ceba4553a5

    It’s funny how popular they are in instagram – just a place for them to show their nice cars. And the fact they live in London, not Nigeria.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu

    It’s funny how popular they are in instagram – just a place for them to show their nice cars. And the fact they live in London, not Nigeria.
     
    And of course you don't live in Russia. Neither does Anatoly Karlin, btw.
  71. I will have to take their word for it. I have no desire to go to Africa.

  72. @Corvinus
    "Seriously, stick to watching Hollywood productions about Wakanda, because there is absolutely no way Lagos can ever propagandized as anything but a terrible city to live in."

    It's not about propaganda, it's about facts. So what specifically from the sources I listed do you have your knickers in a twist about.

    "I suggest you actually go there, because I have and there is zero chance of that place ever becoming a Singapore."

    Maybe. Maybe not.

    https://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/marketing-and-sales/our-insights/africas-growing-giant-nigerias-new-retail-economy

    I suggest you actually go there, because I have and there is zero chance of that place ever becoming a Singapore.

    Maybe. Maybe not.

    There is a non-zero chance for Lagos to become as prosperous and organized as Singapore seems to be. The same goes for my own city, which is part of the world’s most populated urban areas. But… being reasonable, that’s likely not happening. Even with a super-strong retail economy. Even with middle-class families being led by white-collar honest hard working Nigerians. Even with improved public transportation and a dedicated street sweeper army. (God bless street sweepers. I mean it)

    Megalopolises (!) like mine, in what used to be called the Third World, go through chaotic growth. They do not resemble, say, American metropolitan areas when seen from space. I’m not an urban planner, I know next to nothing about the subject, but I don’t see what can be done about that once the place is already home to 20+ million people.

    If you object, lecture or have someone lecture me, because I see no way around it. Maybe we’ll just have to live with some level of rooted disorganization that is said not to be found in places like Singapore and First World cities. We probably cannot be like them. So perhaps we could start to try to improve things by being realistic? What about that?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Give us a clue where you live.
  73. @adreadline

    I suggest you actually go there, because I have and there is zero chance of that place ever becoming a Singapore.


     

    Maybe. Maybe not.


     

    There is a non-zero chance for Lagos to become as prosperous and organized as Singapore seems to be. The same goes for my own city, which is part of the world's most populated urban areas. But... being reasonable, that's likely not happening. Even with a super-strong retail economy. Even with middle-class families being led by white-collar honest hard working Nigerians. Even with improved public transportation and a dedicated street sweeper army. (God bless street sweepers. I mean it)

    Megalopolises (!) like mine, in what used to be called the Third World, go through chaotic growth. They do not resemble, say, American metropolitan areas when seen from space. I'm not an urban planner, I know next to nothing about the subject, but I don't see what can be done about that once the place is already home to 20+ million people.

    If you object, lecture or have someone lecture me, because I see no way around it. Maybe we'll just have to live with some level of rooted disorganization that is said not to be found in places like Singapore and First World cities. We probably cannot be like them. So perhaps we could start to try to improve things by being realistic? What about that?

    Give us a clue where you live.

  74. @BB753
    So these are the morons who actually believe this?
    https://esa.un.org/unpd/wpp/Download/Standard/Population/

    I have a bridge in Wakanda to sell them.

    Soylent Black.

  75. @Daniel Chieh


    So Nigeria, of all places, may be pointing the way to a strategy by which fragile states might begin to succeed: Devolve more power to cities from their corrupt and overcentralized national governments
     
    Which is still dubious, but probably the only way this could even succeed(and probably can't do 88 million). It needs to be a Singapore-equivalent, with local governance and effective authoritarianism, and hilariously, controls on intra-metropolitan use of services/migration.

    Incidentally, the writer himself notes that the increasing population makes governance harder.

    I think that is the only rational, non-colonial model for Africa’s future: coastal, authoritarian city states, with extreme border controls and selectively chosen population, and perhaps Mulberry harbors.

    They’d have to be built from the ground up though, and I don’t see how a city like Lagos could turn into one.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Anybody know how Paris was completely rebuilt into modern Paris starting in Napoleon III's reign: it's now all six story buildings with mansard roofs on nice straight streets with wide sidewalks. How long did this take? Where did people go to live when their neighborhood was torn down?
  76. @Kibernetika
    Ah, Western Europe. I'd love to hear Rick Steves commenting about now-everyday stories such as this:

    https://www.thelocal.fr/20180723/french-police-clear-450-migrants-from-camp-in-nantes

    Even in Nantes?

    I used to like Rick Steves, but then I got the sense he was seriously pozzed when he showed video of a young African boy playing soccer by himself in an Irish town.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    You are ruled by the likes of him.

    Makes a decent travel show.
  77. @songbird
    I think that is the only rational, non-colonial model for Africa's future: coastal, authoritarian city states, with extreme border controls and selectively chosen population, and perhaps Mulberry harbors.

    They'd have to be built from the ground up though, and I don't see how a city like Lagos could turn into one.

    Anybody know how Paris was completely rebuilt into modern Paris starting in Napoleon III’s reign: it’s now all six story buildings with mansard roofs on nice straight streets with wide sidewalks. How long did this take? Where did people go to live when their neighborhood was torn down?

    • Replies: @res
    This page says 1853-1870: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haussmann%27s_renovation_of_Paris
    I did not see any details about relocation.
    , @kaganovitch
    Stephane Kirkland has chapter and verse in "Paris Reborn: Napoléon III, Baron Haussmann, and the Quest to Build a Modern City". Good read
    , @Desiderius
    Robert Moses.
  78. @Anonym
    Re: Tornados, my sister lived in a new development on the inland side of Los Angeles. At Thanksgiving I mentioned this crazy book I had just read that said that Los Angeles was statistically the tornado capital of the country.

    Seems dubious tbh.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Average_Annual_Tornado_Reports.jpg/800px-Average_Annual_Tornado_Reports.jpg
  79. @Steve Sailer
    Anybody know how Paris was completely rebuilt into modern Paris starting in Napoleon III's reign: it's now all six story buildings with mansard roofs on nice straight streets with wide sidewalks. How long did this take? Where did people go to live when their neighborhood was torn down?

    This page says 1853-1870: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haussmann%27s_renovation_of_Paris
    I did not see any details about relocation.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    That's really impressive all in all. I'm sure that the relocation and destruction of private property/shanties wasn't fun, though.
  80. @Reg Cæsar

    Will it be a diverse population of 88 million?

     

    Hell, yeah:

    "Nigeria is a land of more than 500 languages and hundreds of ethnic groups..."

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/largest-ethnic-groups-in-nigeria.html

    “Nigeria is a land of more than 500 languages and hundreds of ethnic groups…”

    I know you’re being facetious but this is actually true. Nigeria’s motto is “Diversity is Our Strength.” Diversity is about more than just skin color. Besides, Nigerians exhibit a full spectrum of skin tones from dark to fair.

  81. @Intelligent Dasein

    The question is whether the Western countries try to keep the subsequent masses of refugees/migrants/whatever on their home continent or decide to destroy their territory once and for all and let them in on humanitarian grounds.
     
    This is the number one national security question facing the West. If we let in sick, starving, war-ravaged Africans at a time when their continent is collapsing, it's only a matter of time until we import Ebola or some other equally devastating disease. This cannot be allowed to happen.

    Will we find a leader with the backbone to sink the refugee ships and firebomb the African coastal cities in order to quarantine the continent and prevent a global pandemic? Or will we get another Obama, who would relish the opportunity to inflict plague and misery on the West, and would do everything in his power make sure we shared in the crisis?

    The immigration problem is existential in more ways then one, and the stakes are infinitely high in every election. To my knowledge, it doesn't seem like anyone in the government is even wargaming this one. It was quite the opposite during the last major outbreak, when Obama's CDC chief went on television with his gay-voiced lisp and scolded, "How dare we abandon Liberia!"

    I thought his job was to protect America's public health. Here we have a top government official who either does not know or does not care about doing his job, who would rather virtue-signal and play the globalist medicine-woman than protect his countrymen. The enemy is deep, deep inside the gates and we are all doomed if we do not uproot them and banish their legacy forever.

    Will we find a leader with the backbone to sink the refugee ships and firebomb the African coastal cities in order to quarantine the continent and prevent a global pandemic?

    You’re an idiot.

  82. @Dmitry
    Father of these girls seems a Nigerian oligarch. It says his value is $1.8 billion according to Forbes.

    https://www.forbes.com/profile/femi-otedola/#f8ceba4553a5

    It's funny how popular they are in instagram - just a place for them to show their nice cars. And the fact they live in London, not Nigeria.

    It’s funny how popular they are in instagram – just a place for them to show their nice cars. And the fact they live in London, not Nigeria.

    And of course you don’t live in Russia. Neither does Anatoly Karlin, btw.

  83. @neutral
    Seriously, stick to watching Hollywood productions about Wakanda, because there is absolutely no way Lagos can ever propagandized as anything but a terrible city to live in. I suggest you actually go there, because I have and there is zero chance of that place ever becoming a Singapore.

    Seriously, stick to watching Hollywood productions about Wakanda, because there is absolutely no way Lagos can ever propagandized as anything but a terrible city to live in. I suggest you actually go there, because I have and there is zero chance of that place ever becoming a Singapore.

    It depends on which Lagos. There’s the Lagos that’s drab and shabby. Then there’s the Lagos that offers a lifestyle that most westerners can only dream about.

    I don’t particularly like Lagos. I don’t like to live like some maharaja with servants and drivers and a security detail. I find extravagant displays of wealth unseemly. I hope they get past this phase and soon. The white people that are being out-smarted into emptying their bank accounts for these guys need to wise up. But it’s a forlorn hope that will probably never be realized.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Then there’s the Lagos that offers a lifestyle that most westerners can only dream about.
     
    Ah what a relief. I'd begun to despair that we weren't attracting humorous trolls any more. Greetings and felicitations, Mr Ooga Booga.
  84. Anonymous[591] • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    Seriously, stick to watching Hollywood productions about Wakanda, because there is absolutely no way Lagos can ever propagandized as anything but a terrible city to live in. I suggest you actually go there, because I have and there is zero chance of that place ever becoming a Singapore.
     
    It depends on which Lagos. There's the Lagos that's drab and shabby. Then there's the Lagos that offers a lifestyle that most westerners can only dream about.

    I don't particularly like Lagos. I don't like to live like some maharaja with servants and drivers and a security detail. I find extravagant displays of wealth unseemly. I hope they get past this phase and soon. The white people that are being out-smarted into emptying their bank accounts for these guys need to wise up. But it's a forlorn hope that will probably never be realized.

    Then there’s the Lagos that offers a lifestyle that most westerners can only dream about.

    Ah what a relief. I’d begun to despair that we weren’t attracting humorous trolls any more. Greetings and felicitations, Mr Ooga Booga.

  85. @Steve Sailer
    Anybody know how Paris was completely rebuilt into modern Paris starting in Napoleon III's reign: it's now all six story buildings with mansard roofs on nice straight streets with wide sidewalks. How long did this take? Where did people go to live when their neighborhood was torn down?

    Stephane Kirkland has chapter and verse in “Paris Reborn: Napoléon III, Baron Haussmann, and the Quest to Build a Modern City”. Good read

  86. @Intelligent Dasein

    The question is whether the Western countries try to keep the subsequent masses of refugees/migrants/whatever on their home continent or decide to destroy their territory once and for all and let them in on humanitarian grounds.
     
    This is the number one national security question facing the West. If we let in sick, starving, war-ravaged Africans at a time when their continent is collapsing, it's only a matter of time until we import Ebola or some other equally devastating disease. This cannot be allowed to happen.

    Will we find a leader with the backbone to sink the refugee ships and firebomb the African coastal cities in order to quarantine the continent and prevent a global pandemic? Or will we get another Obama, who would relish the opportunity to inflict plague and misery on the West, and would do everything in his power make sure we shared in the crisis?

    The immigration problem is existential in more ways then one, and the stakes are infinitely high in every election. To my knowledge, it doesn't seem like anyone in the government is even wargaming this one. It was quite the opposite during the last major outbreak, when Obama's CDC chief went on television with his gay-voiced lisp and scolded, "How dare we abandon Liberia!"

    I thought his job was to protect America's public health. Here we have a top government official who either does not know or does not care about doing his job, who would rather virtue-signal and play the globalist medicine-woman than protect his countrymen. The enemy is deep, deep inside the gates and we are all doomed if we do not uproot them and banish their legacy forever.
  87. @res
    This page says 1853-1870: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haussmann%27s_renovation_of_Paris
    I did not see any details about relocation.

    That’s really impressive all in all. I’m sure that the relocation and destruction of private property/shanties wasn’t fun, though.

  88. @Anonymous

    Lagos, Nigeria will have 88.3 million people. Learn more about Africa's growing population!
     
    OMG! It's so exciting!!!

    As a kid, I watched Art Linkletter whose guest was going to sell some product in Nigeria. Art said aren’t those people poor and the reply was Yes, but there are 88 million of them! Nigerians, not Lagosians. That was 60 years ago.
    Isn’t the entire southward looking coast of West Africa to become a solid conurbation? To house the 4 BBIILLLLIIOONN Africans of 2100.

  89. @Uilleam Yr Alban
    It's almost like the wealthiest on Earth want to rule over a dystopia.

    The rich could get twice as rich, but that would just double the price of 200 million dollar houses and 100 million “art”.

    But if you could get everybody else twice as poor, now that would be something.

  90. @songbird
    I used to like Rick Steves, but then I got the sense he was seriously pozzed when he showed video of a young African boy playing soccer by himself in an Irish town.

    You are ruled by the likes of him.

    Makes a decent travel show.

  91. @Steve Sailer
    Anybody know how Paris was completely rebuilt into modern Paris starting in Napoleon III's reign: it's now all six story buildings with mansard roofs on nice straight streets with wide sidewalks. How long did this take? Where did people go to live when their neighborhood was torn down?

    Robert Moses.

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