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… not much.

The Daily Mail newspaper had a reporter get a job as a maid at the Turin hotel where the annual secret Bilderberg conference was held. This is a center-right meeting for Deep State celebrities (e.g., Henry Kissinger, has been attending off and on since 1957; he was there in a wheel chair this year).

This isn’t to say that powerful people don’t get anything out of going to these conferences, just that what they get out of it probably comes from paying careful attention to presentations and to the reactions of the important people listening.

For example, back in the 20th Century, I went to a conference where the most impressive speaker may have been the late General William Odom, who had been Zbig’s head of military intelligence in the Carter Admin, then head of Reagan’s National Security Admin. He gave his theory of the Grand Strategic Interests of the United States: there are only two places in the world that Really Matter in the sense that the world could be ruled from there (instead of, presumably, from North America): northwest Europe (Britain, France, and Germany) and northeast Asia (Japan, Korea, and China). He said that war within either cockpit would be of the gravest concern to the United States, just as it had been in the 1940s.

But, you’ll notice, it’s not a coincidence that the US stations troops in two of three countries in each trio. That way, any possible war, such as between France and Britain or Japan and Korea would involve at least one country with American bases, which makes such a war unthinkable to local national leaders.

To this day, I have no idea if Odom was just blowing idiosyncratic smoke, or whether this really was Settled Doctrine of the USG of the kind of fundamentals that you really only hear about if you get invited to a conference with people of this caliber.

Similarly, General Odom and Mrs. Thatcher got involved in a furious 10 minute argument standing about five feet from me over the events immediately following the collapse of the Berlin Wall on November 9, 1989 in which West German chancellor Helmut Kohl, with General Odom’s support, absorbed East Germany into a unified Germany, much to the dismay of Mrs. Thatcher, who recalled the power of the last chancellor of a unified Germany.

In some ways, this was just Deep State oldtimers on the conference circuit rehashing old debates. But it definitely made clear even to a clueless outsider like me that the power of the chancellor of a unified Germany would be a major feature of the upcoming 21st Century, which we have seen.

So, it’s easy to see why Bilderberg exists, and why the people who are invited want to go. On the other hand, there probably aren’t much in the way of Smoking Gun revelations that could extracted by reporters and spies.

 
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  1. Mr. Anon says:

    So, it’s easy to see why Bilderberg exists, and why the people who are invited want to go. On the other hand, there probably aren’t much in the way of Smoking Gun revelations that could extracted by reporters and spies.

    Especially if they’re only reporting on the attendees drink orders.

    For all we know, the event organizers put the Daily Mail up to this stunt for the purpose of deflecting public interest in it. The Bilderberg conferences used to be held mostly in secret, by virtue of the fact that almost if not all major news organizations deemed annual confabs of some of the Worlds richest, most powerful, and/or most influential people to be of no intrinsic interest. Then Alex Jones started covering them. So now they have to deal with some level of public scrutiny, and they are trying to downplay it with the insinuation that “there is nothing to see here”.

    But why should anyone believe that when the rich and powerful gather to talk amongst themselves, either Bilderberg or Davos or any other such gathering, that there is “nothing to see here”?

    Sitting government officials sometimes go to these shindigs. Are they ever summoned before their governments’ legislatures and required, under oath, to reveal what they discussed there? Why not?

  2. jim jones says:

    I notice that Drudge has stopped linking to the DM now that they are full-on Marxist

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5853057/Theresa-hints-taxes-bankroll-NHS.html

    • Replies: @El Dato
  3. Rosie says:

    Whatever these lizard people do at these meetings, Daniel Chieh assures me that they are not conspiring against the White race. Thank goodness!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  4. El Dato says:

    The Daily Mail newspaper had a reporter get a job as a maid..

    Don’t tell me she gave her name as Nikita.

    The interesting things are probably happening in breakout sessions, where maids have no access.

    Btw, I notice Luc Besson has been #MeTooooed last month.

    Have some Syndicate:

  5. @Mr. Anon

    For all we know, the event organizers put the Daily Mail up to this stunt for the purpose of deflecting public interest in it.

    But why should anyone believe that when the rich and powerful gather to talk amongst themselves, either Bilderberg or Davos or any other such gathering, that there is “nothing to see here”?

    Exactly.

    I’d bet that there’s much that happens that we’ll never know about.

    Why would all these powerful people get together and say nothing particularly interesting to each other?

    • Replies: @L Woods
    , @donut
    , @Harry Baldwin
  6. @Rosie

    Has our Mr. Chieh infiltrated the Bilderberg Conference this year? It’s possible that he is in the lobby masquerading as a desk clerk whilst hacking some of the powerpoint slides. Daniel, if you are reading… NO, DON”T LOOK AROUND! Just pretend you’ve got a complaint about the bidet from Mr. Kissinger – give Steve or Ron a call and they’ll ask you yes or no questions. We need to find out how much time we’ve got left.

    It’s always good if Mr. Unz can send one of us over there. I’ll go next year if I can ride bidness class … if you’re not sending Tiny Duck again, that is. I’ll give him credit, nobody catches on that he’s the brilliant alt-right mind that we see here.

  7. Berty says:

    The overclass, for all of their wealth, aren’t all that smart.

    • Agree: James N. Kennett
  8. But it definitely made clear even to a clueless outsider like me that the power of the chancellor of a unified Germany would be a major feature of the upcoming 21st Century, which we have seen.

    OK, powerful? I guess so, but she’s using the power to destroy Germany, as I suppose Communists have been trying to do for many years.

    I’m not sure what the other major countries in Europe have to worry about from this powerful Chancellor, so long as they get out of the open-border agreements. It’s not like real Germans are going to invade, what’s left of them. The place, and the leader are like Bizzaro-Germany with Bizzaro-Hitler barking out snorting orders from the Wolf’s Lair Pig Sty.

    • Replies: @Lyov Myshkin
  9. FKA Max says:

    He gave his theory of the Grand Strategic Interests of the United States: there are only two places in the world that Really Matter in the sense that the world could be ruled from there (instead of, presumably, from North America): northwest Europe (Britain, France, and Germany) and northeast Asia (Japan, Korea, and China). He said that war within either cockpit would be of the gravest concern to the United States, just as it had been in the 1940s.

    Great insights, Mr. Sailer! Thanks for sharing them!

    I had a brief exchange on this topic last year, and this is also the reason why I’m in favor of NATO and disagree with Trump on cutting American funding, etc. to it, because it pacifies Germany (and Japan), which is necessary to keep Europe, and presumably the world, at peace:

    Or more likely, the US footing their defense budget for them. Dump NATO, and Dooshland has to commit a higher percentage of GDP to defense rather than social programs.

    https://www.unz.com/article/who-are-the-alt-right/#comment-2021847

    My reply:

    A highly militarized and potentially nuclear “Besserwisser” Germany in the center of Europe should be fun ;-)

    https://www.unz.com/article/who-are-the-alt-right/#comment-2021918

    In my opinion, and I think I have shared this previously, in order to complete German “pacification”, Germany needs to be integrated into “Five Eyes” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes and thus make it “6 Eyes” or “5 Eyes + 1″:

    Why Can’t Germany and France Be Invited to Join Five Eyes?

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/10/29/why-cant-germany-and-france-be-invited-to-join-five-eyes/

    P.s.: France is not as important as Germany in this regard, imo, and they would probably decline the offer anyways.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @byrresheim
  10. L Woods says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Because our “elites,” being the metaphorical pond scum risen to the top, are not particularly interesting themselves.

  11. Mike1 says:

    Not sure you actually read the article (in fairness it was boring). The reporter actually called out that it was a liberal gathering. On no current universe are the attendees center right.

    She also mentioned she didn’t get to hear ANYTHING at all in any of the talks. In other words, she didn’t even get to hear what passes for public comment at this gathering.

    For those keeping score the reporter did point out that a lot of the leaders of this conference are on the board of the Economist which is controlled by a fairly well known family.

    What baffles me about “nothing to see here” stories like this is the idea that wealthy and powerful people would never try to move things in their direction. It should be self evident that they can and do. I mean homeless people try to move things in their direction. Why wouldn’t the very wealthy do so?

  12. Then there’s Bohemian Grove…

  13. Is Henry Kissinger’s shiny black wheelchair enough of a trace of the”there”, there? At the Bilderberg Conference?

    Three Wasps Over Bilderberg – Angela Merkel in Trouble

    Bilderberg is the mountain of pictures (ok: Translated literally) – and that is: A Magic Mountain (cf. Th. Mann). Therefor, reality is not what you would be looking for, in the first place. There’s some kind of reality to this elite gathering, but others (= other kinds of r.) – – simply aren’t. Now imagine, there’d be three wasps flying over Bilderberg, and imagine too, just one of those wasps would be an illegal asylum seeker: Would there be a way for Angela Merkel, to catch it (= him)?

    In cosmic terms, her task would be even harder, because the three wasps over the magic mountain (=the Bilderberg Conference’s hotel, say), would make for a somewhat overstuffed cosmos, according to the ( – once, – ok) well known British expert Sir James Jeans.

    Thing is, that in order to reflect the density, by which the cosmos is “crowded with stars” (Sir James’s own words), you need all of Europe as a hideaway for Jean’s famous three wasps. And now you finally might agree: That the task is just too difficult for Angela Merkel: No way she can get hold of the one illegal wasp over Europe; she is too old!

    - Having arrived at this point of my carefully crafted poetic argument, I conclude: The message is clear, which is radiating in the sky over the Bilderberg conference and which might therefor be reflected in the shiny pair of wings of at least one famous wasp: Angela Merkel has to resign from being the chancellor of Germany. The immigration problem is “towering over her head” (=beyond her reach) (The Beatles, Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds)).

    Q. e. d.

  14. MEH 0910 says:

    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @Svigor
  15. Amber Rudd, Conservative In Name Only, until a month or two ago the British Home Secretary, and a fierce opponent of implementing the Brexit referendum result, was there. George Osborne, Cameron’s former Chancellor of the Exchequer, and a fierce opponent of implementing the Brexit referendum result, was there.

    Manuel Barroso, EU Commission president for ten years, and Goldman Sachs International chair, was there.

    I presume if ‘populism’ was top of the agenda that ‘stopping it’ was the subtext.

  16. OT: CNN is about one segment from telling us babies are being thrown off incubators at the US border. Also, on Twitter Gen. Michael Hayden, former NSA, just compared US border policy to Nazi Germany.

  17. Lovely story. Would like to have attended. Any pictures?

  18. Svigor says:

    Long-term, East Germany would probably have been better off on her own. Probably West, too, given that it would then be unlikely for Merkel to become Fuhrer of either.

  19. Svigor says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    Good to know we had a communist running one of the most powerful institutions in the national security apparatus.

    • Agree: Malcolm X-Lax
  20. Svigor says:
    @MEH 0910

    “Mein Fuhrer, I can valk!!!”

  21. donut says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    “I’d bet that there’s much that happens that we’ll never know about.”
    We hope we never know about it .

  22. FKA Max says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    This is a true story:

    I love thrift shops and buying second-hand clothing. On one of my “thrifting” adventures I found an official Bohemian Grove jacket with the, infamous, owl logo embroidered on it:

    Source: http://www.truthperfected.com/2015/07/drake-secretly-worships-owl.html

    I have since given it away as a present to a friend from Latvia, which is a loyal NATO ally. I know for a fact, from my wife’s best friend’s husband, that we have Bohemian Grove attendees/members in town. One of his dentist friends has attended Bohemian Grove, he told me. I can’t verify this but I believe the jacket I found in the thrift store might have potentially belonged to Ryan Crocker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Crocker

    Washington State is a Deep State hotbed, imo and experience.

    A food bank in a small Washington town will get to remain in its building, thanks to former U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

    Gates wrote the Concrete Food Bank a check for $11,500 late last month to cover the cost of purchasing the building where it has operated since 2004. Concrete is northeast of Seattle, in Skagit County, where Gates lives.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/washington/articles/2017-07-11/former-defense-secretary-robert-gates-helps-save-food-bank

    Former Secretary of Defense Bob Gates and T. Boone Pickens discuss national security

    Mitchell and Jessen formed a company and opened offices in downtown Spokane; they were paid $81 million for their work. They developed a series of “harsh interrogation” tactics intended to make subjects feel helpless, and therefore cooperative, and they sometimes carried them out firsthand, including hands-on participation of interrogating terrorism suspects at a site where Haspel was the officer in charge.

    http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/may/09/shawn-vestal-the-spokane-torture-case-keeps-its-se/

    C.I.A. Torture: Interrogating The Interrogators | The New York Times

    CIA interrogation techniques were developed by reverse-engineering the Air Force’s Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival,_Evasion,_Resistance_and_Escape#Use_of_techniques_in_interrogation program:

    Around the Air Force: SERE Training

  23. Its called the Bilderberg group because that was the name of the first hotel they met in. Now what would have happened if they had stayed at a Howard Johnson’s , Best Western, or a Holiday Inn?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  24. @El Dato

    Would be fun to get reporters posing as a hotel maids for more masters of the universe like Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

  25. Forgive a guy for schadenfreude, but seeing Kissinger in a wheelchair brightens my mood immeasurably. Isn’t Albright there ;)

  26. Paul Dacre, the long time editor of the Daily Mail, has been retired by the owner, Lord Rothermere.

    He is to be replaced by the pro-EU editor of the Mail on Sunday, who has been told to “detoxify the brand”.

    I’m guessing that things like advertiser boycotts, and Jimmy Wales banning DM references in Wikipedia, finally got to Rothermere.

    It will be interesting to see where this goes.

  27. @Malcolm X-Lax

    Kinda crazy how the news is going absolutely insane over this yet here at iSteve its time to rehash “Asian Admissions to Harvard” for the umpteenth time.

    Guess Unz gave Steve his marching orders.

  28. FKA Max says:
    @FKA Max

    Jim “Mad Dog” Mattis has roots in Washington State as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Mattis

    Back then, Sen. Jackson was irreverently known as the “Senator from Boeing” for his staunch support of the military-industrial complex and a hawkish foreign policy. If you enter “Senator from Boeing” into Google in quotes, even though Jackson died way back in 1983, you get 172,000 pages. (Some of them refer to Jackson’s state of Washington successors in the U.S. Senate).

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/googling-senator-from-boeing-v-senator/

    I was distinctly aware of this because my cousin Mike had been a staffer for Henry Jackson (D-WA), the famous “Senator from Boeing,” who led the military–industrial complex wing of the Democratic Party. Among other Jackson staffers were more historically consequential figures such as the early neoconservative operatives Richard Perle and Ben Wattenberg.

    http://takimag.com/article/extended_stay_america_steve_sailer/print#axzz5Ij8CgE3w

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  29. Mr. Anon says:
    @Svigor

    “Mein Fuhrer, I can valk!!!”

    Nice.

  30. Dr. Doom says:

    This year the Bilgewater Committee will visit Italy that has the audacity to not want to be wiped out by invaders. They will hide behind an army of security, bloviate about how to change the messaging to get people in Europe to pay to be wiped out and replaced by dark skinned morons promised by the magic scrolls of Rebbi Ra, and then eat and drink some expensive wine.
    Its like that scene from the movie “ZARDOZ” where the old impotent males sit around discussing things they have a thousand times before, while their women are all horny for barbarians that can still get it up. Just not a European guy like Connery, cause it makes the nebbishes all feel upset about how Biff Tannen has been making them look bad since the Byzantine Era.

    We live in the crazy times. Where geopolitics and Saturday Morning Cartoons are pretty much the SAME.

  31. @jimmyriddle

    interesting because it had more hits and click throughs than the NYT.

  32. Dr. X says:

    But it definitely made clear even to a clueless outsider like me that the power of the chancellor of a unified Germany would be a major feature of the upcoming 21st Century, which we have seen.

    Yeah, and a major feature of national suicide.

    • Agree: byrresheim
  33. @Buzz Mohawk

    Nixon: blunter than Truman, slicker than Clinton. The more I learn, the better I like him.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk, NickG
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  34. AndrewR says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    I am not making this up:

    CNN.com is my go-to national news source. “Know thine enemies,” and all that. A couple hours ago, the TOP STORY was about the crash in TX today of the SUV full of unbelted illegals who were being chased by cops and border patrol before their SUV crashed and a dozen illegals were ejected.

    I checked CNN.com about 20 minutes ago. THE STORY HAD COMPLETELY DISAPPEARED FROM THE HOMEPAGE. It hadn’t just been moved down a few spots. I scrolled all the way down to the bottom to where it’s just spam ads. They had utterly memory holed the story, presumably due to it not fitting The Narrative.

    You can still find the CNN story with a google search but that’s kind of useless for people who haven’t heard anything about the crash.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    , @Them Guys
  35. …the power of the chancellor of a unified Germany would be a major feature of the upcoming 21st Century, which we have seen.

    Unification of Germany, whether in 1870 or 1989, has been a disaster for all concerned. But they had no choice– the French kept invading their wonderful, harmless little principalities.

    So blame the Frogs for everything.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
  36. @AndrewR

    Andrew, I saw the same report. That hot conquistador-American Ana Cabrera was the anchor. You could tell she was a little uncertain how to frame the story vis-a-vis the narrative because CNN had just got the basic facts and were reporting on the fly. No doubt, afterward some Helps-Trump/Hurts-Trump analysis was done, and they decided best not to hype the story.

  37. @Achmed E. Newman

    @Achmed E. Newman

    They’re one step closer to getting that lush Ukrainian lebensraum another German leader once coveted though so it’s not all Ramadan for Germany.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
  38. @FKA Max

    Five Eyes is the Anglosphere. If we added Germany, then it would be Five Eyes und Ein Auge.

  39. @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s in the after-hours that they do the “Eyes Wide Shut” stuff.

  40. @Lyov Myshkin

    Come off it, will you?

    True, the present unpleasantness in Ukraine has US and German fingerprints all over it – but that would have been impossible to achieve whithout diligent (and horribly murderous) bolshevik and later russian prearation.

    Once you people come to terms with Kagovich and the likes, the visceral hatred of eastern Europeans towards you might diminish.

    • Replies: @Lyov Myshkin
  41. @Reg Cæsar

    the French kept invading their wonderful, harmless little principalities.

    That is all too true.

    Without constant French pillaging, raping and murdering, the Germans would have been halfway happy to quibble among themselves. There are towns on what is now the western border that were burned down once in a generation – until Hitler’s war. Since then, there has been an 80 year pause, unheard of in the past.

    Blame Napoleon for German unification, he overdid it. Even the thirty years war did not do the German princes what Napoleon did: instill them with a sense of duty. And even then, it took them another two generations and two intra-German wars …

  42. @FKA Max

    The first modern UFO siting was in Washington too.

    Who gives a state the same name as the national capital anyway? It’s always confusing.

    • Replies: @FKA Max
  43. @jimmyriddle

    Jimmy Wales banning DM references in Wikipedia

    high time to do something about this ex-pornographer and his strange quasi-monopoly.

    With wikipedia, nobody even pretends that it’s a market driven company, they just copy what they can without getting sued and undercut the traditional publishing houses by giving it away for free.

  44. black sea says:

    Since you brought up Gen. William Odom, here he addresses the situation in Iraq, circa 2007.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  45. That might be the time to remember one of the more obscure Bilderbergers, Peter Sutherland, net worth 250 million. He served on the steering committee of the Bilderberg Group and was an Honorary Chairman of the Trilateral Commission. Karl Marx had something to complain about his family’s shenanigans way back in the highland clearances. He liked exporting jobs and importing cheap labour in the name of humanity and anti-racism.

    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
  46. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:

    Pssst:

    If you want to know what goes on at Bilderberg, just read the in-house journal. Believe it or not, it’s openly available to anyone who can pay the purchase price.

    It’s called The Economist.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  47. @byrresheim

    Come off what? I wasn’t having a go at anyone except the people sponsoring illegal coups in Ukraine to bring it into the EU. How on Earth did you get ‘visceral hatred’ from my original comment? Calm down.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
  48. @anony-mouse

    Good point! I don’t think we’d all be so worried about these people if they were called the Relax Inn Group.

    For the sake of the future of the world, we can only hope that they stay at a Holiday Inn Express next conference.

  49. @El Dato

    The interesting things are probably happening in breakout sessions, where maids have no access.

    The most interesting things are probably happening in breakout sessions to which certain maids are specifically invited. The rest of it is probably mind numbingly boring.

    • Replies: @NOTA
  50. NOTA says:
    @AnotherDad

    The average attendee is probably in his 60s, so there’s probably less of the wild sex party stuff going on than you’re imagining.

    • Replies: @Anon
  51. @black sea

    My neighbor down the road is an Army officer who played golf with Paul Bremer, the Bushman who ruined Iraq. He tells me Bremer is a know-it-all jackass. For those of us who believe you can tell a lot about a man when you play golf with him, this is meaningful.

    He does not like him, and he confirms my suspicions that Bremer and the Bush-Neocon people didn’t know what they were doing in Iraq.

    Bremer-the-Jackass is the one who famously wore army boots with his suit:

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    , @black sea
  52. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @NOTA

    Nonsense, they have the secret pills, that’s the whole point!

    Jet packs too.

  53. anonymous[965] • Disclaimer says:

    most of the action takes place in private conversations between people “who just happen to be attending the same conference and who didn’t really go to a specific meeting with each other.” you can see this in action by examining the various connections of some of the conspirators being tracked on the fullchan q boards.

    it’s convenient. instead of having emails or texts exchanged and possibly surveilled, and without having to actually have meetings scheduled which might have records, the two or more of you just slip off into a corner at this meeting and have a conversation, and there is where everything actually gets done. the presentations and discussions are superfluous.

    think about it: didn’t she state in the piece that there was no real presentation or discussion on immigration? do you think it REALLY didn’t get discussed SOMEWHERE at that meeting?

  54. EdwardM says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Agree that the article didn’t reveal much. But, to your last point, it said that, in response to the article, some of the British government attendees were summoned and asked if they were representing the British government/people and, if so, what transpired. Good.

  55. I don’t think anything particularly nefarious goes on at bilderberg.

    Everything these people do is nefarious, they are very open about their goals.

    Why would they meet in secret to do what they also do publicly?

  56. MarcB. says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Then Alex Jones started covering them. So now they have to deal with some level of public scrutiny, and they are trying to downplay it with the insinuation that “there is nothing to see here”.

    Jim Tucker started giving detailed Bilderberg coverage going back to the 197o’s, but it was relegated low circulation newspapers (The Spotlight and American Free Press) and ignored by the MSM. Daniel Estulin has taken an even deeper investigation into the meetings, writing books connecting the consensus arrived at these private meetings to public policy that gets enacted in the “sovereign” nations of the attendees. Alex Jones has been largely sharing their information while adding his own spin.

    Leftists who are so concerned about potential Russian Collusion should be against US elected and nominated officials having off the record meetings with powerful businessmen and heads of state discussing public policy. Due to the increased scrutiny these meetings are receiving in the internet age, they have likely moved away from detailed supranational planning and transitioned into more glad-handing, networking and scouting of future “talent”.

  57. Dan Hayes says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Buzz Mohawk:

    Bremer’s sartorial elegance fits in well with his accompanying Praetorian Guards.

  58. @Achmed E. Newman

    You can figure out most of Soros’ shenanigans just by looking at his money trail. The vast majority of interesting data is public, or semi-public, you just need people to track it down.

    In Soros’ case, he’s pretty explicit about the goals of the Open Society Foundation; the more covert(and deniable) sponsorship is through “baskets” of money(similar to mutual funds) where he can claim that he doesn’t have direct control over.

  59. Fredrik says:
    @El Dato

    I don’t understand what is going on:

    I can tell you. Britain needs more nurses and if the choice is between importing brown and black ones(i.e. Commonwealth people) or train British nurses then the government with its responsible Brexiteer will obviously choose 1.

    If you ever thought something else would happen then I have a bridge to sell you.

    In fact leading Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg has been very clear that brown and black immigrants(i.e. preferred Commonwealth people) must be let in instead of White immigrants so that nobody thinks Britain is racist.

    For some reason this has been extremely hard to understand for many people around this site and other similarly leaning sites.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
  60. Them Guys says:
    @jimmyriddle

    Folks can all relax and know that due to jewish control of Ink & paper producer Co.’s, and jewish control of major ad revenues for newspapers globally….This is what always keeps jewish owned and controlled, with jew writers, editors, opinion writers, newspapers globally always telling 100% factual truths…..Especially when newspapers report on issues regarding Israel the jewish state, or any and all other issues jewish.

    And that’s where every Talmudvision aka TV, aka, electronic rabbi in homes, news shows all get their infos from….So we know now that tv news also can be relied upon for truth and facts always.

    Man, I could be a public school teacher eh!

  61. Them Guys says:
    @AndrewR

    The other day I saw a large sized photo with a news caption and story, that showed usa border cops, inside a Two bedroom typical avg home, in TX I think it was(?), and the news story headline stated…”US Border Control Officers Discover a Two bedroom Home with 62-mexicans inside home”!!

    All 62 were obviously residing in the home based on the photo. I didn’t bother to read story as photo and headline tells all one need know. America and White euro folk are being systematically destroyed By Design period. By this weeks end, CNN will likely make this story number one top priority, with many news anchor Tears of pain at the mass sufferings inflicted upon such Nobel Savage third world invaders. Then toss story to MSNBC to alert us as to how and why all these terrible plights of Mexicans, are all always to be blamed on euro White americans.

    And at least 1/2 of those whiteys are going to believe it and defend/support every illeagle invader until usa is smoke and rubble ruin.

  62. black sea says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    One of the many contradictions of our nation’s fantasy excursion into Iraq is that the Bush administration was simultaneously trying to reshape the society’s political, legal, cultural, and ethical underpinnings while stabilizing the country.

    Attempting to overhaul a society is inherently destabilizing, and stabilizing a society requires largely working within the existing institutions.

    Bremer was one of the most zealous overhaulers, implementing “deep” de-Bathification and the disbanding of the Iraq army. So much for stabilization at that point. Jay Garner and Col. Paul Hughes among others, couldn’t talk him out of it. You wouldn’t think that the internal conflict inherent in this approach would require much explanation, but apparently it never sank in at the upper reaches of the administration.

    you can tell a lot about a man when you play golf with him

    Rumsfeld was a notorious a-hole on the squash court:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/washington/24rumsfeld.html

    Nixon, who would know one when he saw one, described Rumsfeld as “a mean little bastard.” I think he meant it as a compliment.

  63. @FKA Max

    The Bohemian Grove is down to inviting dentists?

    I’ll have to tell my cousin, a long-time member, and not one to suffer such foolishness gladly.

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    , @FKA Max
  64. @theo the kraut

    Peter Sutherland is right POS. A lowlier creature would be hard to find.

  65. FKA Max says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    What is so disreputable about dentists?

    Dr. Samuel Edward Knowles, dentist and Bohemian Club member:

    https://quod.lib.umich.edu/d/dencos/0527912.0053.001/879:583?rgn=main;view=image Archived link: http://archive.is/vxYR2

  66. FKA Max says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    More dentists:

    Harold B. Keeler, member of Band camp. Dentist.

    Alfred L. Flock, member. Dentist.

    Lowell N. Peterson, Band camp. Dentist.

    Theodore C. Muegge, Bien Venido camp. Dentist.

    https://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=639.msg495177#msg495177 Archived link: http://archive.is/upFUc

    E.g.:

    CALIFORNIA STATE DENTAL ASSOCIATION
    MEMBERS, 1933 – 1934
    FIRST DISTRICT, SAN FRANCISCO

    MUEGGE, Theodore C., 450 Sutter St.

    https://www.sfgenealogy.org/caldatanook/csda/csda3402.htm

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  67. @Achmed E. Newman

    Has our Mr. Chieh infiltrated the Bilderberg Conference this year? It’s possible

    He is good. He is very good. And he is a sneaky bastard.

  68. @Svigor

    LOL. Peter Sellers was the best!

  69. @Malcolm X-Lax

    Michael Hayden, former NSA

    Hayden is the Deputy Police Chief Dwayne T. Robinson of the Deep State ™

  70. @FKA Max

    Two remarks:

    1) all of your examples are from the early days of the club, when membership was almost exclusively local and, manifestly, not particularly distinguished (but thank you for the link, which I found fascinating);

    2) there is nothing disreputable about being a dentist, but nothing earth-shaking or hugely influential either. In other words, if the Bohemian Club and its extension the Grove were to this day the haunt of local dentists, doctors, insurance men, and bank managers, then none of us would ever have heard of it, and the likes of Nixon and Kissinger would have been puzzled by invitations to join in its shenanigans.

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  71. FKA Max says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    Thank you.

    I agree with you.

    Just to give some background in which context my wife’s best friend’s husband brought up his dentist friend attending Bohemian Grove (likely as a guest):

    The 1970 Grove guest list is probably the most fascinating
    document available concerning the sociology of Bohemia. It
    reveals the guest, his host, and the camp at which he is staying.
    If such lists were available for a lengthy time span, they would
    provide the basis for an intimate understanding of the cliques
    and friendship patterns within the country’s ruling circles. As
    it is, this one list tantalizes us with hypotheses and possibilities.

    There were 341 guests at the 1970 encampment. They came
    from all over the United States (34 states), as well as from
    Mexico (6), Japan (3), and Spain, the Philippines, England

    https://archive.org/stream/BohemianGroveCommision30/Bohemian-Grove-and-Other-Retreats-126_djvu.txt

    He and his wife talked about the Bohemian Grove, and she brought up all the conspiracy theories/narratives surrounding it, and in response to that he actually said that he does not believe in any of them since one of his friends had attended and reported that nothing sinister was going on there. So he was not bragging about it in any way, but rather trying to debunk all the myths and legends surrounding it, by sharing that ordinary people, like his dentist friend, were invited to it.

    I did some web searches and found a Bohemian Club member who was also a Spokane Club member, so there is a connection between those two clubs dating back to the late 19th century, and maybe there are still ties between members of these two clubs today?

    John Dickinson Sherwood

    Is President of the Spokane Street Railway Co., and a director of the Washington Water Power Co. Belongs to the Spokane Club, Harvard Club of the Northwest, and the Harvard and Bohemian Clubs of San Francisco.

    – Source: Harvard College Class of 1883 Fourth Report

    Incidentally, there was a “Bohemian Club” beer brewed in Spokane. I wonder if they were supplying the Grove ;-)

    Bohemian Breweries superintendent Robert Muzatko imported hop roots and barley seed from Bohemia to start making Bohemian Club and Champagne Velvet beers.

    http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/jan/05/then-and-now-bohemian-breweries/

    Source: http://artsbeercans.com/product/bohemian-club-154-6-2/

  72. FKA Max says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    The National UFO Reporting Center headed by Peter Davenport is based in Davenport, WA:

    Peter Davenport, a businessman holding degrees from Stanford University and the University of Washington at Seattle, who became involved soon after hearing about the Kelly–Hopkinsville encounter,[4] has served as director of the organization since 1994.
    [...]
    Until 2006, the Center was based in Seattle, Washington, but that year it relocated to a bunker in a former nuclear missile site about 50 miles west of Spokane, Washington.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_UFO_Reporting_Center

    We don’t live too far from a former atomic missile silo, which some of them are now for sale to the public or already owned by private citizens. Peter Davenport bought one of these to store his UFO sightings archives in.

    Buried treasures

    Nine missile silos near Spokane sit abandoned or fill nonmilitary uses, but in the fall of 1962, their nuclear warheads were poised to strike

    Back in 1961 the U.S. Air Force, without any attempt at secrecy or stealth, hauled nine long-range ballistic missiles by truck from California to Eastern Washington.

    The trucks carried 82-foot-long Atlas E missiles that ended up parked inside heavily reinforced underground sites. Each missile was later armed with a 4-megaton nuclear bomb, ready to be launched.

    Eastern Washington communities – including Spokane, Deer Park and Davenport – greeted the weapons caravans like a victory parade. That patriotic fervor, historians say, was part of the Cold War-era mindset fueled by nuclear dread and national pride.

    More than 50 years later, those nine underground Atlas sites are largely ignored except by curiosity-seekers and military history buffs.

    Most people don’t even know the buried bunkers exist, said Mark Kramer, whose family owns one of the 20-acre sites. It sits amid parched desert about a dozen miles from the family’s home near the community of Lamona in Lincoln County.

    http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/sep/21/buried-treasures/

  73. @FKA Max

    The Bohemian Club started out artsy and has stayed kind of theatrical — that’s probably why Nixon called it the gayest thing he’d ever seen — as it got taken over by rich guys. It’s kind of a Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney put on a show thing, except Judy wouldn’t be invited because she’s a girl.

    The Bilderbergers don’t put on shows, so far as I know, they just do the usual Serious Stuff like listen to speeches and have panel discussions.

    So, the Bohemian Club is definitely weirder than the Bilderbergers, who are just kind of a serious conference for Deep State-connected big shots going back to the early NATO years.

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  74. FKA Max says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Thank you, Mr. Sailer.

    Helmut Schmidt thoroughly enjoyed his visits to the Grove.

    Schmidt, Helmut, Men and Powers : A Political Retrospective, Random House, 1990.

    Schmidt states that Germany had similar institutions, some of which included such rituals as Cremation of Care, but that his favorite was the Bohemian Grove.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove#References

    Chancellor Schmidt On Busman’s Holiday In Bohemian Grove

    Schmidt and Shultz, along with Lee Kwan Yew, prime minister of Singapore, today rode by limousine the 150 miles from Shultz’s home on the Stanford University campus to this resort area, Schmidt’s second visit to the annual two-week Bohemian Grove encampment.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1982/07/24/chancellor-schmidt-on-busmans-holiday-in-bohemian-grove/2a2806ee-4322-470f-8cad-1675d016ffb0/

    A great man and statesman.

    Former German chancellor Schmidt: More Muslims than so-called “whites” by the end of the century

    In an interview with journalists from NZZ (Swiss Newspaper), former German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt expresses scepticism about Germany’s commitment in Afghanistan. In his opinion, the military engagement in Afghanistan has been going on too many years without improvement. Simultaneously, the hostility between Islam and the West is rising up. Against the background of expecting more Muslims as so-called “whites” by the end of the 21st century, this should be a very worrying development, according to Schmidt.

  75. @FKA Max

    The artistic side of the Bohemian Club has degenerated to the level of the sophomoric antics you refer to. When it was founded and for some time afterwards, the artists who were members were seriously talented, and often famous.
    My grandfather, an Englishman, was great friends with the singer John Charles Thomas, who was a member. As a result he was invited to the Grove on a number of occasions, but never spoke much about it, either in praise or derision.
    My cousin who is a member now is much involved in its artistic side. He is internationally known in his chosen field, which involves the arts. He does what he can, but isn’t terribly enthusiastic about the place these days.
    By the way, he simply shakes his head when people go on about the place as a center of world subversion. He’s about as right-wing as I am, and that’s saying a lot.

    As for John D. Sherwood: I’d wager the connecting thread was Harvard. Its threads are everywhere, for good and ill.

  76. @Lyov Myshkin

    The western-sponsored coup in Ukraine which – you will certainly agree – was not in the best interest of the Ukrainian people, was only possible because of anti-Russian emotions running wild in these parts.

    That’s what I wanted to express, and that there are reasons for these emotions. Up to the Russians to come to terms with the underlying reasons in order to better deal with these emotions.

  77. @FKA Max

    German nuclear armament should be fun indeed and would guarantee world peace, what with the shitty little country tamed and god’s own country given megatons of food for thought.

    Have no fear: this won’t come to pass.

  78. @Fredrik

    Just look at Rees-Mogg’s position on Syria.

    Sums up the man.

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