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There has been a big campaign in recent decades to promote cycling on city streets, which is a little odd because there haven’t been many improvements in bicycle safety since I got flattened by a car while riding home from school in 1972.

A modern car might have 100 safety improvements over the car that hit me, while cycling safety advances since 1972 might consist of helmets being somewhat more common, although many places don’t seem to mandate helmets for bicyclists the way they are legally required for motorcyclists, tires being better, lighting options being more convenient, and a few cyclists wear day-glo safety vests like power company workers drilling holes in streets.

But as bicyclists have become ever more the Establishment’s pets, their own behavior seems to be getting worse, such as running redlights. Cyclists often argue that they shouldn’t have to obey stoplights because accelerating is tiring for them, so they don’t bother with single most basic traffic law: stop on red. Of course, this makes them a menace to pedestrians, but pedestrians aren’t the fair-haired boys like cyclists.

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  1. Anonym says:

    I must admit I am sympathetic to the cyclists. If they want to risk their lives to reduce carbon emissions, pollution and improve health, then giving them some grace at traffic lights is the least we can do. I think most look out for pedestrians as the cyclist is in about as much in danger with a collision.

  2. “…while cycling safety advances since 1972…”

    Bicycle brakes have become much better, too.

    Otherwise: at least you may find comfort in the fact that reckless behaviour by cyclists is a worldwide phenomenon.

    • Replies: @dr kill
  3. In Boston, they smoke dope, go for a ride and get hit by buses. They run into pedestrians, injure people, take off. Their lanes cause jams because they don’t honor red lights. They’re entitled to lanes and right-of-way, yet pay no insurance or taxes on their bikes or lanes. Outside the city, they ride three across and block traffic. When they’re interviewed, standing there in their dainty yellow Lance Armstrong tightie-brighties and idiotic bike helmets and their gay mannerisms, you can tell they’re the worst of the Whining Classes.

    Came out of a building in DC on L Street when they used to ride sidewalks in the Messenger Days and damned near got run over, only shoving the thing away kept me from getting directly hit. Of course, that sent him into a light pole and a newspaper box. Should have seen the looks of approval from my fellow pedestrians. Dick. That’s bicyclists in the city. Major nuisance. I like when they get hit by buses. That’s the best of all. Pedestrians don’t belong on horse tacks, bicycles don’t belong on city streets.

  4. gruff says:

    You’re clearly unfamiliar with bike privilege. It’s real and it’s tearing this country apart.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  5. LondonBob says:

    Yes cyclists have become increasingly irritating here in London too, I assume this article has been inspired by a recent run in. Cars should be discouraged, however I prefer the safer walking or public transport options, a friend has a metal plate in his shoulder after going over a car bonnet that pulled out after failing to see him. I do cycle in a local park, but no high visibility clothing or helmet for me, which is a little stupid. That said I wear a white clothing items and the speed limit is 20mph in the park. I always make sure to be considerate to cars, and make way where it makes sense. Too many cyclists seem themselves as too virtuous to consider others , or obey the rules of the road.

  6. CCZ says:

    The “fair-haired boys” are simply exerting their “white privilege” and the “unbearable-whiteness-of-cycling” while POC experience the terror of “Biking While Black.”

    Over in the US, the issue of race and cycling has led to claims of institutional police racism. In Chicago in particular, it seems black cyclists have been targeted by the police for unfair treatment.

    The Chicago Tribune newspaper reviewed police statistics on the number of biking tickets issued by the police in the city. And the review showed that more than twice as many tickets are being written in African-American communities than in white or Latino areas. These tickets are often given out for minor offenses, such as cycling on the pavements, but in some cases cyclists have ended up being arrested.

    Chicago is a city where the bulk of cycling infrastructure is within white neighborhoods. So for white people, white privilege means there is less chance of a fine.

    The police statistics also show that despite high levels of cycling in predominantly white areas, over an eight-year period (2008-2016) the top ten ticketed areas included seven that are African American and three that are Latino.

    And many in the city now believe that the bike stops are just another pretext for racially motivated searches – described as the new “stop and frisk”.

  7. Twinkie says:

    This is one of my pet peeves on the road. Cyclists seem to obey no law, but whatever suits their own convenience. Just today I saw a cyclist ride between two columns of car traffic while the cars were stopped on red. The cyclist then entered the intersection while still on red. As the light turned green and traffic began to flow both ways, suddenly he turned sharply left, making both the left lane of the same side traffic and the opposite traffic slam on the brakes and nearly causing a huge pile up.

    This is not the first time I saw something like that. In another similar instance a couple of of weeks back, a cyclist was pulling a similar stunt and was hit very slightly by the opposing traffic. The cyclist stopped dead in the track, got off, and started to bang on the hood and the windshield of the stopped minivan, seemingly terrifying the woman driving that vehicle. When the rest of us started to get out of our cars to stop this lunatic, he got back on his bike and furiously pedaled away.

    The woman got out to examine the damage to her car, and I saw that she had little kids inside. It was one of a very few times I wanted to give chase on the road and dole out a savage beating.

    And I thought that driving cars made people feel stupidly invincible. Cyclists… ugh.

  8. Anonspc says:

    On the net, anything that encourages an increasingly obese America to burn some calories ought to be encouraged

  9. Tires, lights and brakes of bicycles are better now than in the seventies, and cars are slower on many city roads. And in D, A and CH: The bycycle lanes and the traffic-free inner cities are a big advantage for me – the cyclist.

  10. tyrone says:

    SJW weapon of choice : the bike lock , coincidence? cycling makes you mean

  11. Cyclists are the worst. Their sense of entitlement is through the roof. But what really gets me, is the desire of grown men to be seen in tight, shiny, spandex pants.

  12. Altai says:

    It depends on how much work is done to add bike lanes. It’s hard to add that infrastructure. In Copenhagen and Amsterdam the separation between the bike lanes and car lane is more complete, often with a little raised divider, it’s hard to stray from one to another. It’s certainly not the same experience as in other places where bike lanes are hastily painted in onto the side of existing roads where there often isn’t space and bike lanes get chronically blocked.

    If you ride a bike in Copenhagen and Amsterdam you never have to pay much attention to anything but other bikes, there are traffic lights just for bikes. It’s not stressful or potentially dangerous, it’s pleasant and fun; 99% of people don’t even wear helmets.

  13. In Oz the government love of cyclists has instigated a rage of murderous proportions.

    You could be going down or up a series of S-bends in single lane yet the law mandates that the lycra clad cunt in front must have a 1.5 metre clearance should you seek to overtake (which of course everyone does).

    Bicycle road deaths have become a phenomenon, mostly at the hands of Tradies in utes were I to profer my own unstatistical observation, yet the law INCITES the average motorist to know. his. place.

    • Replies: @FactsAreImportant
  14. markflag says:

    The self-righteousness of the bicycler is unlimited.

  15. m___ says:

    On cyclists

    Bicycles plus pedestrians are really a category of it’s own, the flow of their trafic should correspond to something totally different. Stop – Go – Straigt-lines as in “car city” is not an optimized pattern.

    We should probably not bother to adapt, since street level noise(damped within cars), and air quality(exponentially greater exposure, by using more of it on the bicycle), are prohibitive. Cars do have filters for sooth, if not they would not, they would be gluey and tarred on the inside as from the outside. Take a look under the hood or drive a motorcycle for a few miles and taste the inside of the helmet.

    Life is make believe, pederasts and bicycles do not coincide with cars in cities. Combinations of subways, trams, bicycles, pedestrians do. Cities and infrastructure are not built for combining explosion engines, electrical vehicles alike with breathers.

    Cities in many more ways are flawed designs, impossible to correct, back to the drawing board. Since more then sixty? percent of the global population is ghetto-ed in them, there is nothing that craves drastical redesign more. Hence the “reverse Flynn effect” in the sense that exposure to the toxic bath that are our cities does collaborate to make us as dull as not noticing. Hungry rats in a trap.

    Way beyond the importance of bicycles and how, is the issue of logistics and how. Cities have their logistics truncated from daily life, while they should be the primary concern. That does away with any pretense of efficiency. The quantification of it, and probably some are working on it, should proof ditto. Let’s ask our own A. K.

    • Replies: @Western
  16. In several decades and several hundred thousand miles of driving, I have logged exactly one accident. My car was parked, the key was out of the ignition, and after checking traffic behind me, I started to get out. The door instantly jumped off its hinges and a bent bicycle and a groaning man in cyclist kit mysteriously appeared on the ground several feet down the road.

    It was night and the cyclist was pedaling along with traffic without a light, so he was invisible in the glare of the headlights he was amidst … until he hit my door edge-on.

    The cops surveyed the situation and said they wouldn’t charge me even though it was technically illegal in that town to exit one’s vehicle on the driver’s side (which law they admitted no one obeyed).

    I drove home with one hand while holding the bent door in place with the other.

  17. Clyde says:

    I would think twice about doing lots of bicycling in states that legalize marijuana. Same applies to your children. A few days I saw a driver go by so close he ripped the mirror off a pickup truck. It was side mirror vs side mirror. The driver had plenty of room to avoid the other guy’s mirror.

    Texting while high on pot sounds like a great duo for accidents.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  18. U. Ranus says:

    The cyclists are generally in the right here, but it’s hard to see as a motorist. The reason is that the cyclist has *vastly* better situational awareness. The cyclist can see better and hear more. Maneuverability is also better because of lower mass at lower speed.

    Situational awareness for motorists has probably decreased over time. Looking out from behind the tilted windscreen of a modern aerodynamic car you see less, and sound insulation is better.

    Maneuverability has increased for cyclists because brakes are so much better than in 1972. If listing “cycling safety advances since 1972″, I’d say modern bicycle brakes are the most important item. The hydraulic ones are especially great.

    Naturally, when the cyclist flits through traffic on superior situational awareness and superior maneuverability, the motorist is left befuddled.

  19. Sailer’s point is valid, but it would have been nice if he’d acknowledged that drivers and their cars have been the law’s fair-haired boys for a century.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  20. Anonymous[421] • Disclaimer says:

    Remember the ‘Critical Mass’ bullshit of the last decade? I’m glad that died out. Why did these people think they had the right to block roads and annoy random motorists? Where is this acceptable behavior?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  21. Adding bike lanes in urban environments often means eliminating a lane for cars. Two- lanes in each direction become one in each with a center left turn lane. Or parking lanes are reduced. Yeah additional congestion and parking frustration! Note that in snowy climates, bike Lanes are unused for 3+ months out of the year – they aren’t removed for snow removal or additional driving space.

    Additionally, mix in declining competence of today’s drivers (aided nicely by cell phones and NHTSA crash/rollover standards that are reducing driver’s visibility to Abrams Tank levels), and we may hit a tipping point between desires of psycho-bicylists and average Joe and Jane automobile driver.

  22. Stealth says:

    Don’t get me started. Those whiny sh!theads complain about motorists while doing everything they can to inconvenience and endanger everyone else on the road. What irritates me the most is that they seem to refuse to remain in the bike lane. You have to swerve left to avoid hitting them, and then you get honked at by the vehicle in the next lane.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  23. unit472 says:

    Safety in numbers. Around here there are two classes of cyclists. The derelict cyclist who either lost his drivers license or is too poor to afford an auto and the recreational cyclist. The derelicts cycle alone and often at night. They don’t last too long as they are generally the victim of a future derelict cyclist who hits them after emerging from the local bar.

    The recreational cyclists mimic the motorcycle gang. They form packs and cycle, not to get to any place but simply to wear their ‘colors’ and ride three or four abreast rather than in single file in their designated bike lane. They don’t attempt this at night so their survival rate, while not good, is better than the derelict cyclist.

    • Replies: @Maus
  24. JMcG says:

    Around me they like to ride in packs on the beautiful roads out in the country. The law says single file only but they ride around in groups of maybe 12-40. They even post guys to block cross streets as they ride through. I wouldn’t deliberately hurt one, but if I were to find one burning to death, I wouldn’t stop to urinate on him either. Just another bunch of smug, entitled p****s that throw sand in the gears of life.

    • Agree: redmudhooch
  25. The bicycle, in all its efficiency and elegance, may be considered a wonder of the world.

  26. bomag says:

    After a trip to the SJW parts of Colorado where I noticed a lot of effort on behalf of bicycles, I next stopped in Sheridan Wyoming, where the downtown had NO BICYCLES painted in large letters on the sidewalk corners. Not that I’m anti-bicycle, but I found it refreshing to have the sense that the looming, cloying presence of Progressive-ism was somewhat at bay.

  27. This and the sport of golf are two areas in which we will have to agree to disagree, Steve. When I use a bicycle for transportation, I feel no need to obey any laws but those of physics and the prime safety directive: STAY AWAY FROM THE CARS! With the drivers often looking outside their vehicles only every 3 to 5 seconds or so, and then back to the electronics, this is much more important than in the past, when the drunks might see 2 or 3 of you.

    Stop signs, lights, lanes, all of that mean nothing to me, so long as my path leaves me an out from possible idiotic car movements. I am lucky that where I live the cops understand that it’s my ass if I hit anything. They are not like cops in LA, who have been known to ticket guys (a co-worker) for not stopping completely at a stop sign (they didn’t see his bike spring back from the brake system strain energy).

    I have run stop lights – at small intersections with good views in all directions – right in front of cops, though I often don’t have the guts to look them in the eye. Not that long ago, one cop pulled to the side and mouthed off at me about some $165 ticket I could have gotten. I realized that I had made ~ 6 violations just in a 1/2 mile downhill. However, that’s the safest way to get from pt. A to pt. B. I will continue doing the same thing, but with an eye out for that particular cop car.

    A few years back, in a big city, as I was going downhill with the traffic, a cop car was blocking the narrow-as-it-was bike lane, from the curb way out into traffic. OK, I maneuvered onto the fairly wide sidewalk. As the lady cop was assisting some bum, she yelled at me “get off the sidewalk”! That’s how you get treated sometimes. I flipped her the bird and said the equivalent as I was 20 ft past, way downrange, especially for cop fitness levels.

    In many years of riding, I’ve never unintentionally hit a vehicle or anything but one dog, who bent up my front rim, and walked away unscathed.

    • LOL: Autochthon
  28. Danindc says:
    @Dieter Kief

    Hey Dieter, tell your people to get their sh#t together!!

  29. Danindc says:
    @Almost Missouri

    The cyclist…?? Oh, he perished.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  30. The Establishment wants us to be more like China, where bicycles are an integral part of the transportation infrastructure.

    As the Chinese know, bikes cut down on air pollution.

  31. Bill P says:

    In countries where cycling is actually a common means of commuting, such as The Netherlands and China, cyclists obey the law. Enforcement works. Start ticketing cyclists for violations and they’ll do it here, too.

    The problem here is that progressives treat them as a special class above such petty concerns as traffic laws. This is a shame, because it has made cycling primarily the domain of aggressive young men instead of a practical means of transportation for the masses.

  32. jb says:

    Cycling is actually much safer now than it was when I was a kid in the 60s and 70s, because I ride my bike so much more slowly and carefully than I did then.

    (Well it’s safer for me anyway, and that’s what counts).

    • LOL: Kylie
  33. ” Cyclists often argue that they shouldn’t have to obey stoplights because accelerating is tiring for them…”

    Most cyclists are liars that insist THEY obey all traffic laws, and motorists are just resentful.

    Bicyclists have never obeyed traffic laws ever, and now that they’ve become the black lesbians of commuting society (hundreds of miles of Chicago’s already insufficiently narrow thoroughfares have been converted to bike lanes) their sense of entitlement is stratospheric.

  34. Anonymous[210] • Disclaimer says:

    Mankind has invested more than four million years of evolution in the attempt to avoid physical exertion. Now a group of backward-thinking atavists mounted on foot-powered pairs of Hula-Hoops would have us pumping our legs, gritting our teeth, and searing our lungs as though we were being chased across the Pleistocene savanna by saber-toothed tigers. Think of the hopes, the dreams, the effort, the brilliance, the pure force of will that, over the eons, has gone into the creation of the Cadillac Coupe de Ville. Bicycle riders would have us throw all this on the ash heap of history.

    from: A Cool and Logical Analysis of the Bicycle Menace, by P.J. O’Rourke.

  35. I agree that cyclists are a problem, both for pedestrians and for drivers. In my current location, cyclists are supposed to choose to either follow pedestrian rules (i.e., ride on the sidewalk, dismount to cross at crosswalks, etc), or driver rules (i.e., riding on the street, stopping on red, going with the flow of traffic, etc.). What they do in practice is weave between these two distinct sets of rules as convenience dictates. I nearly ran into a cyclist who was riding on the sidewalk and then, as I turned left, suddenly veered into the crosswalk at high speed. I stopped short and honked, and the cyclist went berserk, screaming and gesturing wildly. Since he was riding on the sidewalk and thus invisible to me as a driver (hidden behind the cars parallel parked on the street), he was supposed to dismount and walk thru the crosswalk to avoid this very scenario. In another instance, I was walking and started to cross a one-way street, looking only in the direction traffic should have legally been coming from. I heard a shout and a cyclist swerved, missing me by inches – he was riding at high speed THE WRONG WAY on the one way street. I don’t see how this is any different from someone doing the same thing on a motorcycle, which would probably result in losing one’s license.

    The attitude of many cyclists when they are clearly in the wrong is one of the most annoying things about it. They are poor ambassadors for their mode of transportation.

  36. @Bill P

    The problem for local politicos is that cyclists are single issue voters, so it is suicide for them to not support anything that “promotes” cycling. They wear dark clothing around here and are impossible to see especially at twilight. Many four lane minor roads in this area are now two lane with a bike lane that is infrequently used.

  37. Jake says:

    This is a true post, with not even the faintest hint of exaggeration to make a point. I learned to bicycle on the road a long time ago, which meant I learned to ride lines religiously knowing cars would pass close to me at speeds that could knock me many yards through the air. I also learned to pat attention to every sound, every slight movement all around. And yes, I always stopped at red lights and stop signs.

    Today, most cyclists I see on the road ride close to the middle of a lane, and many of them I see violating a traffic rule. Virtually no group of cyclists I have seen on the road the past few years – even ones of 20 or more – rides single file to allow auto traffic to pass i that lane. Cyclists now hog lanes and force autos to pass them as if they were in autos.

    Any ‘group’ can be made into a spoiled brat. That which the Elites wish to pet, to promote, they will do so at the expense of all common sense and decency, even to the point of their own destruction.

  38. @Twinkie


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  39. @Bill P

    Bill, I don’t know much about the situation in Holland, but I can tell you about China. What good would enforcement do in China, as there seem to be no traffic laws at all, besides some obscure mandate that one must honk the horn at least every 10 seconds, reason or no reason?

    There are BLIND T-intersections I’ve seen (all over) where a cyclist or motorist will just keep moving with no view onto the main road – sometimes even crossing traffic, and people will give just the right amount of leeway to let this nut (meaning all of them) merge in … until they don’t once in a while. I just wish I’d taken video! Oh, I almost forgot about the families of 4 riding along on 100 cc scooters. I’ve been in China a good bit and never saw a cop ticketing anyone for anything. It’s a libertarian’s dream and a thing of beauty.

    You picked the wrong country as an example, Bill. Another reason is that China 2018 is not the China of 1995 or even 2005. Many cities have so much vehicular congestion that people can’t even ride bikes anymore.

    … it has made cycling primarily the domain of aggressive young men instead of a practical means of transportation for the masses.

    Let me put it this way: it can be a good form of transportation if you keep moving – that means there’s no way I’m gonna stop at the bottom of a hill if I can safely keep moving, signs or no signs. Parking is a cinch, and can save all the time that driving saves via speed, and more, on short trips, that is.

    Cycling can be a practical means – meaning safe for everyone – only if there are serious, separated bike paths (see Holland), yet iStever’s seem to pooh-pooh those very often as (usually true) pet projects of the cntrl-left and city liberals. What do you want?

    • Replies: @Bill P
  40. Aardvark says:

    I recall a cop stopped a cyclist that was coming down a hill that is part of the street I live on and had ignored a stop sign. The cop read him the riot act that when you ride your bike on the street, you are considered as a motor vehicle and subject to the same traffic laws that cars are. I bet that lecture lasted somewhere in the nanoseconds.

    Meanwhile, perhaps I had not spent enough time in Amsterdam and Munich where there are literally oceans of bicycles. They don’t seem to have a lot of challenges with cars that I observed. Not that I think we should become some mamby-pamby nation of bike riders unless it is completely voluntary and not forced on people through policy decisions likes excessive taxes on cars and gasoline.

  41. Anon[188] • Disclaimer says:

    I liked bicycling around in high school (to sports practices and such), and if we were starting our infrastructure from scratch it might make sense to put in Dutch style bike lanes everywhere (I almost got run over by a guy in a porsche).

    That being said, it’s interesting to watch the coalition of the fringes fight it out over finite road spaces. Both the bike people and the transit people hate cars, but most of them haven’t figured out that they actually have conflicting goals. The smarter transit people realize that the easiest way to increase ridership is to have bus-only lanes (BRT is the technical term). That way they can effectively simulate the user experience and capacity of light rail, for much less than actually building light rail. But of course, there’s a finite number of road space so building more bus lanes and bike lanes are mutually incompatible.

    • LOL: jim jones
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  42. Anon[363] • Disclaimer says:

    Cyclists? Here in NYC they prefer to be called ‘bikers’. I don’t believe I’ve heard this elsewhere, where the term applies only to motorcyclists. NYC “bikers” like to be thought of as tough guys, like Hell’s Angels, hence immune to laws. Like all NYCers, unlikable assholes.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  43. Snikle says:

    I won’t defend the indefensible- plenty of cyclists I see feel they are above the law.

    But if you’ve never done it, give cycling a try for a bit, and see your fellow motorists from their perspective. In my brief months where I tried bicycle commuting, I was amazed at the number of cars who would pull out in front of me, pass me with zero clearance, pass me on blind curves….. it felt like I was being given the opportunity to see first hand once every few minutes that the passing drivers clearly valued their time higher than my life. Treating all other vehicles as though they don’t see you and are trying to kill you is a good defensive driving technique in a car, but on a bicycle it’s often true.

    During that attempt at bike commuting the local news covered a fatal crash. A local driver passed a cyclist on a bridge with a grade where she couldn’t see oncoming traffic. Turned out a car was coming, so the driver got back in her lane, crushing the cyclist against the bridge wall. She got a $250 fine.

    I no longer ride on highways……

  44. Rapparee says:
    @Bill P

    Exactly. A bicycle is a wheeled vehicle, and should be treated like all the others on the road.

    Of course, this makes them a menace to pedestrians, but pedestrians aren’t the fair-haired boys like cyclists.

    Dedicated bike lanes are desirable precisely because they keep cyclists off the sidewalks. In theory, bikes should be able to safely merge into regular automobile traffic and cars will accommodate, but in practice, too many people behind the wheel are playing with their cellphones or just plain drive like maniacs. I wouldn’t begrudge cyclists riding on the sidewalk for their own safety, except that most cyclists who approach me from behind don’t bother to ring a bell or shout a warning until they’re practically on top of me, and I have to essentially leap out of the way. I ride a bike occasionally, and find the most practical option for busy, gnarly intersections is just to dismount, walk it through the pedestrian crosswalks, and hop back on a little further down the road.

  45. tj hooker says:

    Running red lights is of course deadly, but a lot of lights now use sensors to decide when to change. These don’t detect cyclist well. A lot of states have dead red laws allowing cyclists to go thru. This is a subset of the Idaho stop, stop sign -> yield, red light -> stop.

  46. vinny says:

    Cycling is far easier on city streets. As municipal budgets get stretched, expect more $100,000 bike paths and fewer $10 million road projects. Don’t like it? Hey, all those retired 50 yr old local fireman gotta keep their Florida condos somehow.

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Anon
  47. Rapparee says:
    @Dieter Kief

    In many countries, the decades-long crackdown on drunk driving has probably made life much easier for cyclists, too.

    • Replies: @roo_ster
  48. vinny says:

    Anyway, I suspect cyclists will start obeying red lights when motorists start obeying the speed limit.

    Both seem to treat stop signs as suggestions with equal frequency.

    • Replies: @Ximenes
  49. okay, i’m going to the mattresses on this one, you arrogant, car-centric, worm-legged, imperious metal-bubble riding dingleberries…
    (even though it appears my last innocuous comment is still being held for moderation 3-4 days later… whatever…)
    as a former bike-based lifeform (and still ride some 1-2 a day to tire out the dogs), cyclists are basically FORCED to disobey the ‘rules of the road’ for the very simple reason that 90-99% of the metal-bubble bullies don’t know the rules of the road, NOR follow them… MUCH LESS use common sense and a certain amount of courtesy for fellow nekkid apes riding so exposed…
    (NOT TO MENTION, doing YOU and your kids lungs a favor while sacrificing their own, thank you very much, you lazy pukes…)
    had a serious accident once due to idiot driver who simply floated through a stop sign right across the sidewalk I was (legally) riding on (no bike lane)… blew out the rear passenger window with my skull, and severely separated my shoulder… it was pretty cool, really: seemed to happen in slow motion, seeing the glass shards exploding in the air like matrix bullet-time…
    oh, but metal-bubble drivers always obey all laws and never take shortcuts or change lanes or turn without signaling or drive inappropriately fast or don’t stop all the way or ignore yellow lights or turn across lanes, etc, Etc, ETC ad infinitum ! ! ! yeah, pick on cyclists for not obeying laws, will ya’… hypocrites, liars, and scofflaws, the lot of you…
    over the 20-25 years I used to commute by bike (because I wanted to, not had to), I can not tell you how many times I would have the right-of-way, I would stare straight into the eyes of the driver, and they would STILL ‘break the law’ (*gasp*) by not following the driving rules and turn RIGHT THE FUCK INTO ME… damn straight I wanted to take my bike lock and ding their fender for a thousand dollars of body work… lazy, stupid fuckers…
    so, yeah, I ‘broke the law’ all the time because I HAD TO to survive you idiots in metal bubbles…
    fyi, bicycles are -aside from steel wheels on steel rails- one of THE most efficient methods of transport, energy-wise… the ‘problem’ is NOT those asshole cyclists, but BOTH the asshole entitled metal bubble operators, AND that our transportation systems/circulation are mostly NOT amenable to ANY OTHER form of transport EXCEPT cars… THAT is THE problem…
    fuggin metal bubble heads…

  50. OT: Mike Trout is on a historic tear right now. From the recap of last night’s Angels game:

    Widely regarded as the best player in baseball, Trout’s production has surged to an otherworldly level over the last week. He has recorded only seven outs over his last 37 plate appearances (.778 OBP), batting .696 (16-for-23) with four home runs, nine RBIs, 11 walks (four intentional) and one hit-by-pitch. In addition to leading the Majors with 23 home runs and a 1.158 OPS, Trout also has more walks (64) than strikeouts (60) this season.

    . . .

    Already a two-time MVP winner at age 26, Trout is currently on pace for a 14.4 WAR season, which would break Babe Ruth’s 95-year-old record (14.1 in 1923) for the greatest individual season in MLB history.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  51. Dwright says:

    Just honk at a group of them and enjoy the hysterical and angry reactions.

  52. Wency says:

    Once I was once slowly and steadily backing into a parking spot at a busy grocery store in Houston when a 30-something Mestizo on a bike decided to dart behind me and get hit. I was terrified it was a setup to sue me, but he said he was OK, just dusted himself off and went on his way. Not sure if he was that stupid or if he was disappointed that I didn’t hit him harder.

    The thing that bothers me currently are the bicyclists who decide to ride on a busy, twisty 2-lane 50 mph highway in my semi-rural exurb, which has no shoulder or sidewalks (let alone a bike lane). Several times I’ve gone around a corner to see one not far in front of me and had to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting him. Surely there are going to be some deaths there at some point.

  53. John says: • Website

    What occasioned this post? A “big campaign…to promote cycling” where? I lived in Austin for many years; I appeared to be the only person there who bicycled every day; the city did latterly paint a lot of stripes and mystifying symbols on streets; is that what’s being talked about here? Oh wait, there are also those racks of rentable bicycles; I never see anyone actually in the saddle of one; perhaps this was a Google initiative to get your credit card number and your rectal temperature almost simultaneously. Well, now that I talk this out, I guess it all bespeaks urbanists’ sour meddlesome yearnings…but whether those amount to a “campaign,” I remain unsure.

    I don’t think people reject bicycling because it’s unsafe. I think they reject it because it’s inconvenient, especially in places that are…hot, or rainy, or snowy, or very densely settled, or not very densely settled. Basically everywhere American. I cannot say however that Europeans are more enthusiastic about their options. Then again, the European places I’ve bicycled in are Iceland, Portugal, and Slovenia. (I think everyone who talks about “Europe” should state which Europe he means.)

    But back to bicycle safety: you never really know why you didn’t meet with disaster, but I have never met with any, even with about 200,000 miles pedaled, and I think it’s because nearly all of my riding has been routine. I do pretty much the same thing every day; and so do the motorists around me. I learned this back in San Antonio in the 1980s, when I was commuting to graduate school, a 26-mile roundtrip every day. People noticed me, and understood me. I know this because they told me this – in traffic at stoplights (whatever my other sins, I always halted at those) or if they saw me in the supermarket or convenience store. I liked being recognizable, and it made me want to be predictable…because people were counting on it!

    • Replies: @European-American
  54. Tex says:
    @Bill P

    The problem here is that progressives treat them as a special class above such petty concerns as traffic laws. This is a shame, because it has made cycling primarily the domain of aggressive young men instead of a practical means of transportation for the masses.

    I knew a guy who was killed in a bike accident. He was an aggressive young leftist who got run over after running a stop sign.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  55. L Woods says:

    The cyclists in DC are, unsurprisingly, atrocious. Emblematic of the worst sort of yuppie scum infesting the city. It can’t as an aside really be considered a practical means of commuting here, as the weather is rarely mild enough that you can make it a moderate distance without freezing or being drenched in sweat.

  56. The Z Blog says: • Website

    I’ve been cycling for 30+ years. I also weight train, thus debunking Steve’s theory about ideology and training preferences.

    In my time, drivers have become vastly worse. Over the weekend I was on a back road going about 35 on a 30 MPH road. It was a long down hill stretch where you can go as fast as your courage will let you. Cars were passing me like I was stopped. They were easily doing 60 on a country road. This is common now. I never see people on back roads just puttering along, enjoying the scene.

    In my youth, I’d ride city streets and get on busy roads, but now I limit myself to country roads with little traffic and designated bike paths. It’s not that I have less courage. It’s that have more sense than to trust the average American driver.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    , @anonymous
  57. As cars get safer but bicycles don’t, you’d expect the to shift additional risk onto bicyclists over time.

    But I can’t help but think every bicyclist I see must have a death wish anyway.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  58. Mr. Anon says:

    Clusters of be-spandexed A-holes routinely take up a whole lane of traffic, even on two-lane undivided roads, and slow down all the people in cars behind them, while they peddle away (not very fast either) unconcerned.

    • Replies: @Intellectual Pariah
  59. Jack D says:

    The best thing you can do for the safely of cyclists is to separate them from cars in dedicated bike lanes. Not just stripes on the street that no one pays any attention to, but physically separated lanes. This is also safer for pedestrians because you know to look for bikes when crossing those lanes.

    Cars and bikes are natural enemies – when I ‘m on a bike I hate drivers and when I’m driving I hate bicyclists, so the best thing to do is to keep the enemies apart.

    Keep in mind though that in any car/bike conflict the car usually wins – you get a scratch on your car, the biker goes to the hospital (if he lives).

  60. MikeJa says:

    The most annoying thing about cyclists isn’t their flouting of laws – its their very existence. I feel the same way about buses and HGV trucks and I imagine their drivers feel the same about me. Having different modes of transport on the same road degrades the user experience for everyone

  61. Sabril says:

    I would guess that it’s the same reason why it’s unusual for pedestrians to be ticketed for jaywalking. Given the speeds and masses involved, there is far less danger than in the situation of a car or truck that runs a red light.

    That said, I agree it’s pretty annoying how cyclists break the law with impunity but still expect motorists to accommodate them.

  62. There is some new arrogant movement by hipsters to just bike on high traffic city streets as if they are in a motor vehicle! Back in the 80s and 90s if you were on a bike going up a busy four lane highway full of shopping centers and fast food restaurants, you knew to stay on the sidewalk where you wouldn’t get killed. Not like anyone walks in such places and your probably the only one not in a car in that local square mile. Now I see these knuckleheads on the darn street taking up a lane that is trying to move at 40mph. They even are such big idiots that they use LEFT TURN LANES AT THE LIGHTS! Any sensible person would press the button at both of the cross-walks and make the 90 degree turn in a safe way. These idiots love to blather on about how they have “just as much of a right” to the lanes as cars. Well, guess what, they also have “just as much of a right” to go skydiving and odds are they will end up just as dead. There are whole websites dedicated to taking away our cars, along with Silicon Valley tech nerds, hipsters, and progressive executives working as furiously as they can to deliver these “self driving ride share cars” nobody actually wants. Much of what is also lost on these people is apart from a few areas deep in the sunbelt or along the California coast, there is something called “winter” that makes bicycling impossible for half the year.

  63. @Twinkie

    This is one of my pet peeves on the road. Cyclists seem to obey no law, but whatever suits their own convenience.

    Just this morning on the way to work I saw a cyclist run a red light on a major street, another cyclist riding between two rows of cars stopped at a red light, and finally another cyclist riding up the sidewalk in front of my building with pedestrians struggling to get out of the way. Cyclists are a menace to society.

  64. Altai says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Don’t forget the dystopian hellscape of Copenhagen. :P

    Of course, left unstated is that Denmark is still full of Danes with the DPP managing to influence immigration policy in the key periods of the late 90s/early 2000s even to the point of having very low rates of EU migration. (My theory is that even though there is freedom of movement, the economy isn’t terraformed to suit immigrants as much and this deters what should be a flood of Eastern Europeans)

  65. One of the most common problems in the US is that cyclists often ride on the wrong side of the road, into the oncoming traffic. In any other country they would quickly be arrested.

    A policeman once told me that in the US they are not arrested because they do not have licenses. Huh?

    • Replies: @Corn
    , @Dave O'Connell
  66. @Jack D

    As a cyclist, I love dedicated bike lanes. However, there is a chicken and egg problem.

    It’s hard to justify taking up space with dedicated bike lanes unless you have lots of cyclists using them.

    It’s hard to get new users to use a bicycle as a primary transport, unless you have dedicated bike lanes. Traffic is intimidating, and sidewalks (should) belong to pedestrians.

    If traffic is low enough, ‘sharrows’ can work, but if traffic is low enough, you don’t need sharrows.

    Cyclists who ignore traffic laws? Not a bet I’m willing to place. You’re wrapped in 1500 lbs of steel, and I’ve got a styrofoam helmet.

    • Replies: @Frank the Prof
  67. psmith says:

    Better brakes for sure. And cars aren’t as likely to kill you if one hits you.

    I live in a small city where everybody rides and interprets traffic laws pretty loosely, and all in all it’s fantastic. Kind of a dysfunctional equilibrium that leads to drivers yielding even when they shouldn’t, but if that’s the price of not having to set foot in a car during the work week I’m totally OK with it.

    (this being isteve, I should also note that this place doesn’t have a whole lot of NAMs, which probably helps.).

  68. Sid says:

    My sister got off of the bus. Thing was, the bus stopped right next to a bike lane, and pedestrians have to cross the bike lane before reaching the sidewalk.

    My sister is a 95 pound vegan and a cyclist rammed into her. She got knocked out and it shattered her clavicle.

    If people want to ride their bikes around for recreation in the park, that’s great. But cycling is a horrendous form of transportation, unsafe for car drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians.

    People should establish a form of public transportation for SWPLs. Uber is filling that niche better than anything else right now.

    • Replies: @Gimeiyo
    , @res
    , @roo_ster
  69. anonymous[814] • Disclaimer says:

    … Immune to All Laws Except the Laws of Physics …

    That’s also known as the Kennedy Rule.

  70. Barnard says:
    @Bill P

    Bicycling isn’t practical for the masses as a primary means of transportation. Most people either don’t live close enough to their jobs to make it practical or want to travel with other people, including small children. The reason for the attitude and lack of respect for traffic laws is that bicycling is done primarily by young progressives who think that no law they agree with applies to them. Yes, they should be ticketed, but be prepared for the endless screams of discrimination and injustice that will follow.

    • Replies: @psmith
    , @roo_ster
  71. anonymous[814] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    So you’re a segregationist?

  72. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Pollution from factories is another issue. We don’t have to worry about that because we don’t have any more factories.

    The 1st scene doesn’t look that bad to me in the context of a big crowded city. Imagine that each of those bicyclists and bus riders are in their own American style giant SUV and you have a recipe for gridlock (and pollution).

    You’ll note (that as is common in China) the bikers are separated from auto traffic, which is safer. Nowadays electric bikes/scooters are very popular in China so biking is not limited to the physically fit.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  73. Sid says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Apparently the Chinese have a huge demand for automobiles because they’ve had enough of cycling.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Anonymous
    , @fish
  74. farmiddle says:

    In terms of force and momentum, a cyclist is much more like a jogger than a semi. In some cases, it’s safer for all involved for a cyclist to take some liberty with the rules of the road. A red light becomes a stop, a stop becomes a yield. It sometimes makes sense for a cyclist to hop on the sidewalk, etc.

    As always, use good judgment and don’t be stupid.

    • Replies: @Sam Haysom
  75. anonymous[814] • Disclaimer says:

    … the bikers are separated from auto traffic …

    We need bridges not barriers!

  76. JSM says:
    @Jack D

    How much money would THAT cost? Who’s gonna pay for it? Bicyclists? Yeah right.

  77. A1 says:

    Several points.

    1. Cars have rules – like pass on the left, slow speeds in alleys, fast on freeways etc.. Bicycles have no rules – ride as fast as you can all the time

    2. Commuter cyclists are saving the planet so they have a holier than thou attitude. (As someone who commutes via foot I would like to see a Holy and raise a thou but cyclists don’t listen because they are busy saving the planet)

    3. It would be helpful to have a separate cycling test required for adults to cycle or incorporate more cycling into the driver training curriculum. Along with advertising and enforcement the goal would be to improve the knowledge needed to cycle as a car.

    4. A bicycle is a vehicle and should be treated the same as a car. If a cyclist wants to be treated as a pedestrian they should walk the bike.

    5. Bicycle lanes are great but they are typically optional. Cyclists should not be allowed on roads when there are pathways and cycle lanes as it becomes really confusing to drivers.

    • Replies: @Gimeiyo
    , @Carol
    , @The Alarmist

    Get Rid Of That Treasonous Rat Coward Asshole Mike Pence

    Pence Pushes AMNESTY For Illegal Alien Invaders

    Pence Pushes Mass Legal Immigration

    Pence Is A Whore For The GOP CHEAP LABOR FACTION

    President Trump Must Deport ALL Illegal Alien Invaders

    President Trump Must Implement A Moratorium On All Legal Immigration

    President Trump Must Stop The Illegal Alien Invasion Of The USA

    Trump/Coulter 2020

  79. @Almost Missouri

    Bicyclists who are struck by driver’s side doors opened heedlessly as they are passing by call this dooring. It has happened to me more times than I can recall. Twice such incidents caused enough damage to my bicycle and myself – total destruction to the bike and ER visits for me – that I’ve retained the details in my memory. BTW, I’m an experienced bicyclist who travels with extreme caution on city streets.

    My first memorable dooring occurred in broad daylight as I was passing a parked pickup truck on a two-lane suburban highway. I swung wide to avoid the truck but the driver very suddenly flung his door open as wide as he could. He jumped out of his vehicle and was ready to start accusing me of carelessness while I was still lying in the road but a passing driver stopped and told him he’d witnessed the whole thing and it was entirely the pickup driver’s fault. This other driver was kind and concerned enough to give me and my totaled bike a ride to the nearest ER and provide me with a witness statement. The at-fault driver’s insurance company later settled with me for a sizable chunk of change.

    My second dooring occurred on a thoroughfare in a major city, after dark during rush hour. I was in my mid-sixties at the time and commuting home from work. I was doored within a block of my workplace. The guy who doored me was an African immigrant with no documentation at all. He was working as a valet for a nearby hotel, parking hotel guests’ cars on the public street. As is usual the case in such incidents, he swung his car door open without looking and with no warning. He could as easily have been struck by a passing car as by me. Again my bike was totaled. The police were called and an ER visit ensued. Many passing witnesses declared that the incident was entirely the African valet’s fault. THe hotel’s insurance company settled for a sizable amount.

    My bike was lit up like a Christmas tree with three battery-powered LED red/yellow rear lights, and a hub-generator-powered, quart-halogen, front light, with approximately the same brightness as a motorcycle headlight. I was carrying a full touring-load (about thirty pounds of gear), wearing winter clothes, and going uphill. I could not have been doing anything over ten miles an hour, considerably below average traffic speed at that time and place, and was very wary of passing and parked cars and pedestrians. The accident was entirely the fault of the driver thoughtlessly and carelessly swinging his car door open as wide as he could. My experiences suggest that this is almost invariably the case in these situations.

    I won’t bother enumerating the times I have been literally attacked by car drivers, swerving into me or even deliberately bumping me. Conversations with fellow bicyclists and motorcyclists have led me to believe that this is a common experience. Evidently there are a large number of psychopathic bullies out there who think it is amusing to threaten bicyclists and motorcyclists with death and maiming from within the protection of their multi-ton vehicles. Interestingly, the most bicycle- and motorcycle-considerate class of drivers seem to be drivers of commercial trucks, heavy rigs, and semis.

    There are two sides to this issue.

  80. Pericles says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Mike Trout is incredible. Perhaps it’s for the best that he plays for the hapless Angels. What would the league be like if he was with the Yankees?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
  81. I never obey traffic laws when cycling on the theory that I don’t have a license plate and can evade any cop attempting to ticket me.

    I’ve always felt traffic laws shouldn’t apply to me to begin with and resent their application to me.

    I also don’t wear a helmet let alone a day-glo safety vest because those things look gay.

    That said I am courteous to motorists, who after all the roads were built for. The real problem is middle aged faggot cyclists LARPing as Lance Armstrong wearing super-gay spandex clothing taking as the entire road as if bicycles were equal to cars.

    If you’re a 150 pound (ok, these dweebs are more like 200 usually…) man on a 20 pound bicycle maybe you shouldn’t tempt fate by enraging the drivers of 4,000 pound machines made out of steel?

    Cyclists (not me) are cruising for a bruising.

    • Replies: @passive-aggressivist
  82. Bicycles are the perfect Left Wing Smug machines – passively aggressive in how the biker shifts the burden for his or her own safety to the vehicular traffic on any given street or road and incandescently obnoxious in impairing the flow of traffic according to the rider’s whims according to no rule or law.

    Bicycle riders seem to take great pleasure in holding motorists hostage at 10-15 MPH. I’m sure in an urban environment many have had the experience of the bicycle rider in front of the flow of traffic slowing down at least one lane to his leisurely pace, and then you get to a red light and think “I’ll just blow by him when it turns green” only to find that he violates the red signal and winds up in front of you by the time the light turns green – over and over again.

    A little satisfaction for the often frustrated motorists:

    • Agree: snorlax
    • Replies: @roo_ster
  83. Anon7 says:

    Wearing a helmet doesn’t make you safer. When I was a kid growing up in the 1960’s only the retarded kids wore helmets. Look at a video of Danes riding bikes in their cities from ten years ago, and you’ll see hundreds of people of all ages riding bikes without helmets.

    When I see someone riding their bike on a 45 mph road without bike lanes as if they were a car, I see someone who is ready to die. The sheer number of people without any understanding of physics or common sense amazes me.

    Danes have arranged their cities to make biking safer. They ride bikes because they like it, not because socialists or feminists or deep nanny state operatives tell them to. Owning a car to use on an eight or ten mile commute to work is an outrageous scam: it’s so costly compared to the wages from a typical job. Bicycles are the most energy efficient form of transportation ever created. Another white male european invention, you’re welcome, world.

  84. I’ve been a transportation engineer/planner at a regional government body for over 30 years. For the last 20 years or more, the cyclists have punched way, way, way above their weight in terms of getting funding for their pet projects (which basically consist of making automobile travel less efficient, as much as making their own travel easier.) They are very organized and incredibly persistent, and make allies in my business in order to get what they want.

    Another example of how a tiny but determined vocal minority gets what it wants because no one else cares enough to stop them (although in many cases they complain afterwards-the average person doesn’t have the time or inclination to get involved in the process, leaving the playing field to the activists, unfortunately).

    They are also expert at manipulating Google’s search results so that if you search for a common transportation planning concept or term you will in many cases be directed to one of the cycling activist websites, where a pro-cycling spin is promulgated.

    They also use a favorite tactic of SWJ types-Orwellian language control. Terms like “road diet” and “complete streets” (basically euphemisms for making motor vehicle travel more difficult)-have gone from being fringe terms to lingua franca in my profession in the last 20 years.

    I always get a kick when I see 2nd amendment types comment about some sort of terrorist attack conducted with a motor vehicle by saying “what, are you gonna ban cars too, ha ha?”. Little do they realize that, in fact, that banning private motor vehicles (or at least greatly reducing access to them) is certainly on the SJW agenda.

    One of the major trade publications in my field, ITE Journal, has over the last 5 years or so, mutated from being a standard type of civil engineering journal with various scholarly articles regarding safety and efficiency to being an SJW-mouthpiece constantly concerned with “equity”, to the exclusion of anything else. For me, it goes right in the wastebasket now.

  85. ATate says:

    I used to weigh 300lbs. I’m down to 205. Cycling like a mother-fucker. 32 miles each way to work. The reason the ride is so long is to avoid traffic (and because I love it).

    When I’m in traffic I’m courteous and polite to cars. I always signal where I’m going. If a car lets me in I snap off a salute and smile. Over 10,000 miles and I’ve only had one negative interaction with a dickweed in a truck. Don’t hit me and I’m happy. I stay out of the way as best I can.

    For pedestrians I give a wide birth…I also have a very loud hub in my rear wheel so when I stop pedaling it hums very loud alerting walkers. Again, polite to them and friendly banter. No problems.

    It probably helps that I wear military or Marine Corps jerseys from time to time and despite my weight loss still am a big dude so perhaps my interactions are influenced by not being built like a middle school girl on a bike.

    • Replies: @Corn
  86. I wonder if anti-bike rhetoric might increasingly become a feature in blue city mayoral primaries. I figure that if cities weren’t already monolithically blue getting tough on bikers would have already tipped some races in favor of republicans campaigning against bikers. I have yet to encounter a non-biker who is even slightly sympathetic to biker friendly infrastructure.

    It will also be interesting to watch and see if the hipness of biking dissipates as Central American populations burgeon. In Houston at least biking is very much seen as something Central Americans do not soi disant creative class types.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  87. @Rapparee

    Dedicated bike lanes with right of way so cyclists don’t have to cross intersections that cars are usuing are absolutely wonderful, especially in a scenic location, such as the 18 miles of Chicago lakefront bikepath, which I rode hundreds of times.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  88. @farmiddle

    Well unfortunately all that Lycra is cutting off blood to wherever it is that bikers use good judgement. Actually it’s kind of a chicken and egg thing anyone not in the Tour de France that chooses to wear Lycra is maybe not that capable of judgement regardless of wear the blood flows.

    • Replies: @Reactionary Utopian
  89. Gimeiyo says:

    My sister got off of the bus. Thing was, the bus stopped right next to a bike lane, and pedestrians have to cross the bike lane before reaching the sidewalk.

    My sister is a 95 pound vegan and a cyclist rammed into her. She got knocked out and it shattered her clavicle.

    I almost had the exact same thing happen to me once (I saw the cyclist coming as I stepped out the bus and jerked back just in time). Except there wasn’t a bike lane, the bicyclist just decided to speed through the narrow gap between the bus and the sidewalk.

    As a pedestrian, I find cyclists in Washington DC to be an absolute menace. Contrary to some of the suggestions above, I very, very rarely find automobiles running red lights through the pedestrian crosswalk. In fact, I’m not sure I can recall a single instance (mostly I recall cars blocking the pedestrian crosswalk because they thought they could get through the light and were wrong. But they’re stationary, so they don’t pose much of a danger to me). On the other hand, despite not encountering bicycles with anything like the frequency I encounter automobiles, I find them running red lights all the time. They’re simply awful.

    • Replies: @Buck Turgidson
  90. psmith says:

    Location decisions aren’t entirely exogenous. And there are plenty of parents who ride just fine with assorted kid-hauling gizmos; I see them every day in my town.

  91. @Jus' Sayin'...

    Man it’s hilarious how these desiccated fossils of the alt right turn into pansies when their ox is getting gored. Kind of see what people are talking about with the whole white fragility meme. Buck up buttercup stop being a snowflake.

    • Troll: Jus' Sayin'...
    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @res
  92. Sparkon says:

    Well, I’ve been riding a bike safely for well over 60 years. I acknowledge that some bicyclists ride foolishly and recklessly, but many — probably most — do not.

    Apparently, such discrimination is a brush too fine for those whose simplistic characterizations rely exclusively on the broad, sweeping generalization, and whose palette contains only black and white.

    I see far more auto drivers disobeying the law than bicyclists, with much greater danger to public safety.

    When is the last time a bicycle plowed into the front of a store, scattering shoppers? When is the last time a bicyclist ran down a group of cars, or pedestrians either one? When was the last time a bicyclist led officers on a high-speed pursuit?

    Recently in LA, there have been several instances of bicycle riders shot from cars, and found lying dead in the street by their bikes, so maybe ease up on the anti-bicycle propaganda, and channel your anger into something else?

  93. Gimeiyo says:

    4. A bicycle is a vehicle and should be treated the same as a car. If a cyclist wants to be treated as a pedestrian they should walk the bike.

    Oh, that’s another thing that bothers me. Sometimes there are zones where bicyclists are directed to get off the bicycle and walk the bike (e.g. because there’s a roadside tunnel that is only wide enough for one person, or because there’s a plaza that is full of pedestrians). It’s rare to see bicyclists actually obey the signage. Usually they just try to plow on through.

  94. res says:
    @Almost Missouri

    The cops surveyed the situation and said they wouldn’t charge me even though it was technically illegal in that town to exit one’s vehicle on the driver’s side (which law they admitted no one obeyed).

    Please elaborate. What is the rationale behind that law? Are laws like that common?

    OK, I looked myself (still interested in what you know though) and here is an article talking about this in NYC:

    Here is the specific law:

    § 1214. Opening and closing vehicle doors. No person shall open the door of a motor vehicle on the side available to moving traffic unless and until it is reasonably safe to do so, and can be done without interfering with the movement of other traffic, nor shall any person
    leave a door open on the side of a vehicle available to moving traffic for a period of time longer than necessary to load or unload passengers.

    Is the wording of your law similar to that?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  95. peterike says:

    Is there anything as douchey as the middle aged white guy weekend riding his $2000 rig in full professional, skin tight bike racing suit?

    No, there isn’t.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    , @anon
  96. since when did biking or bike-riding become cycling? that sounds too close to recycling or the air-conditioner rationing during summer.

    I used to BIKE to work and loved it. I own a BIKE, not a cycle. That comes every month.

    • Replies: @anon
  97. I call ‘em Bike Nazis.

    And you can imagine that here in Seattle they are a real menace.

  98. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:

    Some fellow Penn college republicans and I were campaigning down by philly city hall a few days before Election Day when a biker blew through a red light and started yelling fuck trump. I took my trump sign jammed it in his bike spokes and he went flying. The nereby cops doubled over in laughter and told the guy as he got up to complain that he needed to move along or they’d cite him for a running a red light.

    Always felt kind of bad about it until reading this message board-bikers are insufferable.

    • Replies: @Anon
  99. anonymous[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @art guerrilla

    At least you’re not bitter.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  100. A lot of people HATE cyclists. I’ve had people drive alongside me screaming obscenities, throw beer bottles, fireworks etc. It sucks to get hit in the head.

  101. @art guerrilla

    The very first rule I apply to any time on a bicycle is to avoid automobiles and trucks at all times, if at all possible. Sometimes I break traffic laws, carefully, when I do this, but always to maintain my own safety and to not compromise the safety of the motorists nearby. Here, in the Philly suburbs, I rarely ride anymore, it is just too dangerous. I have had far too many close calls with idiotic drivers. I would suggest to non-cyclists a simple recognition regarding the above philosophy; that is, in a collision between a cyclist and a motor vehicle, the cyclist always loses, regardless of who was right or wrong on the roadway. I make no excuses for cyclists who ride like morons themselves. They deserve no excuses.

  102. res says:

    Thing was, the bus stopped right next to a bike lane, and pedestrians have to cross the bike lane before reaching the sidewalk.

    I have some settings like that in my area (with a physically separated bike lane and the buses, cars, etc. stopping on the street side of a small physical barrier). They are terrible. People don’t seem to understand that you need to look both ways before crossing a bike lane and it is not OK to use the bike lane itself as a loading/unloading area. Another complication is people unloading on the passenger side of cars are not accustomed to paying much attention to traffic.

    Sorry about what happened to your sister. Regardless of right of way and who should be looking, etc. both cyclists and drivers should strive to be aware of potentially dangerous situations and not hurt people.

    • Replies: @Sid
    , @Jack D
  103. Alfa158 says:

    I wonder if this guy is juicing? I’m not a sports fan, so I don’t know much about this stuff, but my wife sometimes gets free hospitality suite seats to games, and takes me along. Early in Trout’s career I saw him hit a home run into the middle of the seats behind left field at Angel stadium. The ball had almost no loft at all, he just blasted it in almost a straight line like an RPG, and if he had put some arc in it, I think it would have gone out of the stadium. I was expecting that thing to be glowing and leaving a faint smoke trail like a tracer round. It’s hard to believe any human could have hit a baseball that hard without some kind of enhancement.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  104. I cycle a bit, also drive, and walk. When I cycle I do go thru red lights, but only after slowing down and looking to see what’s there. If no pedestrians and no cars coming from my side, then I go. Nothing wrong with this. It’s the Spandex mafia on their gran fondos that are the real menace. But don’t say that, they’re on every chat board and boy are they looking for an argument!

  105. Jack D says:
    @Sam Haysom

    One of the hardest things is seeing the world from the other person’s POV. We see this in politics a lot but in biking it is very literal. From the biker’s POV, drivers are opening their doors into them without looking, resulting in serious bodily injury, but from the driver’s POV, invisible bicycles are just suddenly materializing and damaging their cars – how dare they! Personally I am more sympathetic to the bikers in this case.

    I can understand how pedestrians view bikes as menaces but in any bike-car collision the biker is going to be the loser so I don’t understand the resentment that some drivers feel. Are they jealous because in city traffic bikers can go faster than they can?

    As a legal matter bikes are vehicles and are supposed to obey all traffic laws the same as cars, but as a legal matter cars are never supposed to exceed the speed limit. The law doesn’t always reflect practical reality.

    In terms of safety improvements, maybe bikers (and motorcyclists) do need to adopt more visible (reflective) clothing and better lighting at night. Maybe they need (bikes, not motorcycles) to give off a distinctive noise also. A very common refrain in accidents involving bikes (and motorcycles) is “I didn’t see him”. Better driver training (look before opening your door) could also help. Some advocate that you should open your door with your opposite hand, which forces you to turn around. I find this awkward but I always look before opening my door into traffic.

    • Replies: @Sam Haysom
  106. So much of the cycling situation depends on physical context. Bicycle commuting in dense-traffic urban areas is very different from recreational cycling on lightly-traveled county roads. People, both the ones in cars and the ones on bikes, just need to act like they’ve got a little sense.

    I’m a recreational cyclist. When I ride on the roads, I consider my routes and use either rural roads where cars and trucks are a once-in-a-few-minutes thing, or I use roads that have reasonably wide shoulders so I can stay out of motorized traffic lanes. Maybe it’s because of where I am (northeast Indiana, generally friendly, easygoing people), but I never seem to have a problem. When cars overtake, they always move over way more than they need to. If one does catch me at a narrow place, and can’t see over the top of a rise whether he can pass in the opposing lane, I crank as hard as I can; and, since I can usually see ahead before the driver can, I wave him on as soon as I see that it’s clear. And I do think it behooves us, as bicyclists in a realm of fast, heavy machinery, to try and act as ambassadors. Stay as far to the right as you can, make yourself as easy to pass as you can, and when someone is driving out of a side road and waits a few extra seconds to let you go by, they need to see a wave and a smile.

    That said, I do see a lot of two-wheeled assholery out on the roads, and it gives me an extra cringe. I’m thinking, “OK, jerk, the motorist you’ve just pissed off is apt to be driving past me in a day or two … thanks a lot.”

    And now, another mode of travel that seems to be immune to the law: motorcycles. I’m thinking in particular of the Harleys and similar: the ones that have either no muffler at all, or just a token one. You’re driving along, talking with your passenger, and one of those things is nearby — until it goes away, the conversation is suspended. Used to be, you drove a car that made that sort of a racket, and you were sucking for a ticket. But for these damn motorcycles, there seem to be no noise laws. Makes me hope for the coming of winter, when such things are put away for a few months.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  107. Carol says:

    In my state, which generally adopts uniform laws, bicycles are treated as vehicles and must signal, make left turns as cars do and obey the other rules if the road. In town bikers 15 and older are not supposed to ride on the sidewalk, per city ordinance.

    But there are a lot of grown manbabies who don’t know this or don’t care.

    Anyway, knowing how much my fellow Republicans hate me, I’d quit, but riding’s been so damned good for my health these last 20 years.

    And it’s not Spandex anymore, it’s LYCRA.

  108. res says:
    @Sam Haysom

    How do you feel about being physically injured because of the bad behavior of others? Or do you just never do any activities that put you at risk of that?

    The one time I was doored (somebody threw a big door all the way open on a busy city street) I managed to avoid it except for my ankle and the pedal. I rode on. What would a manly man like you do? FWIW I ended up on crutches for a week or two.

  109. roo_ster says:
    @tj hooker

    Not applicable in many/most cases. Because the cyclist makes no effort to stop, just blows on through.

  110. roo_ster says:


    My metro area is much more dangerous to cyclists due to the south of the border crowd’s propensity to get liquored up and get behind hte wheel.

  111. @Buzz Mohawk

    I did a long cycling trip in China. Beforehand I got a Chinese student at school to write an introduction on a card saying basically “Hello I’m from America and traveling on this bicycle for adventure”. She burst out laughing. “No one in China rides a bicycle for fun!” The typical reaction was was like an American meeting a guy touring the country on a riding mower. “You know there’s a bus that goes to Guangzhou, right?” The immigration people at the Macau border were flummoxed. I had to assure them I had money for a bus if I got tired.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Jack D
  112. Sid says:

    I’m biased (even though my sister and I don’t get along at all, which I doubt you’ll be surprised to read if she’s a vegan and I’m an iSteve reader!), but there’s only so much visibility bus riders have when getting off the bus. I agree that people in cars have an obligation to look before they get out, but it’s difficult to look out if you’re a bus rider, and the expectation is that you get off of the bus ASAP. As such, I believe the cyclist had an obligation to not ride like a maniac when the bus had stopped there.

    And believe me, my sister’s medical insurance company agrees with me!

    But more importantly, it’s all around bad policy to have buses drop people off directly on cyclist’s paths. It’s unfair for the cyclists too.

    • Replies: @Difference maker
  113. roo_ster says:
    @art guerrilla

    Don’t listen to this pinhead. Plenty of us who commute or have commuted by bicycle in the past are not such utter wankers.

    Some of us obey the rules of the road no matter our form of conveyance.

  114. @res

    I never read the law and have no idea of the legislative history. I just took the policemen’s word for it and was grateful not to have to answer to it. This was years ago. Maybe it has changed by now … or not.

  115. Jack D says:

    Dedicated bike lanes are pretty new in the US and it may take some time before drivers and pedestrians understand how to interact with them. Every pedestrian knows from an early age that you can’t just walk into an auto traffic lane without looking – that is suicidal. But somehow in the case of Sid’s sister, she didn’t understand what she was walking into and didn’t look. I am not saying that this was her fault but somehow the situation was not clear to her – she thought that she could just emerge from the bus and head for the sidewalk without looking and that was not the case. The biker OTOH sees a stopped bus and even though he has the ROW in the bike lane should be watching for people emerging from it.

    • Replies: @res
  116. roo_ster says:
    @Jack D

    Dedicated paths are a non-starter for practical cycling (commuting etc.). Fine for recreation, though.

    Cyclists are safer when they take the lane than when they are on a white-stripe bicycle lane.

    Take that lane by the throat, slap it around like a dirty wench, and get to business.

  117. roo_ster says:

    Careful with those images. I may just start to notice patterns.

  118. @Jack D

    We regulate and control pollution far better in what factories we have left than they do in China, and we did long before we gave them all our manufacturing. (Again, my father was part of that and I know.) I’m sure they’ll catch up though. Rapid industrialization was their priority, and our people were just as dirty when they created the original Industrial Revolution that China is copying with our capital.

    I couldn’t find a better photo of a Chinese bike crowd. They’re switching to cars now. Gee, I wonder why?

    Yes, I know there are lots of pedestrian and bicycle utopias; I lived in one for two decades: we called it The People’s Republic of Boulder. I didn’t even have a car for the first decade. In the right place, it’s a good thing.

    Anyway, since you like the idea, if you’re around long enough, you can have fun riding your bike to work and slaving under your future Chinese boss, Jack.

  119. roo_ster says:

    Bike lanes, especially those designated merely by a white stripe, are a BAD IDEA. Chuck hte bike lanes and insist cyclist take hte lane. Your sister would not have been smashed had there been no stupid bike lane the bus had to respect.

  120. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Why don’t you just drive a car, or otherwise, shut up and stop complaining on your glorified rolly toilet?

  121. BenKenobi says:
    @art guerrilla

    Rules of the road:

    1. Anyone in a Subaru or a Lexus is a clueless asshole that needs to go faster (Sorry Steve).

    2. Cyclists are the vegans of the road. We don’t give a whistling shit about the niche lifestyle you’ve chosen. Die under the wheels of a Chinese immigrant.

    • LOL: Jim Don Bob
  122. roo_ster says:

    Yep, no longer practical for me after my work relocated an _extra_ ten miles away. It was nice to comute by bike while it was practical, though. Getting my cardio in was a no-brainer.

    Chowderhead cyclists need to be ticketed same as chowderhead drivers.

  123. Sparkon says:

    The hard numbers tell a different story. Despite soaring numbers of bike riders, bike-pedestrian collisions are declining:

    … a study in the Journal of Safety Research about the actual incidence of injuries in bicycle-pedestrian collisions provides a balancing dose of data. The study,… looks at injuries caused by cyclists hitting pedestrians in California between 2005 and 2011 and in New York between 2004 and 2011. Their analysis of hospital records shows that, despite the steep increase of bicycle traffic over the same period, the rate of people getting hit and hurt by bicycle riders is actually now on its way down.

    (my bold)

    Meanwhile, just over 40,000 died on the roads last year in the United States, In 2015, 5,376 pedestrians and 818 bicyclists were killed in crashes with motor vehicles. I couldn’t find any report of an accident where a driver in a car had been killed in a crash with a bicycle.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  124. @Sam Haysom

    Well unfortunately all that Lycra is cutting off blood to wherever it is that bikers use good judgement. Actually it’s kind of a chicken and egg thing anyone not in the Tour de France that chooses to wear Lycra is maybe not that capable of judgement regardless of wear the blood flows.

    A few years ago, I was standing beside my bike, waiting for the start of a large organized ride (the Tour de Donut, in Arcanum, Ohio) when a cyclist nearby remarked that there seemed to be a lot of “mammals” out here today. I asked for clarification, and he hadn’t said “mammals.” He’d spoken the acronym MAMILs. Which, he explained, stands for “Middle-Aged Men In Lycra.”

    Yeah, guys of my age and build need to be aware that you can buy bike shorts that have the built-in chamois and all, but also have a nice, loose, baggy outer shell. That skin-tight stuff may look okay on Chris Froome, but on normal people … not so much.

  125. roo_ster says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Never was doored. I just plain refused to ride near parked cars.

    Instead I would move out to the center of lane. It is a very narrow road with very narrow lanes that will allow an opened car door to door a cyclist who is riding in hte center of the lane or 3/4 of the way over from the right.

  126. Jack D says:
    @Sam Haysom

    It will also be interesting to watch and see if the hipness of biking dissipates as Central American populations burgeon. In Houston at least biking is very much seen as something Central Americans do not soi disant creative class types.

    Maybe that’s because it’s 98 and humid most of the year – not exactly ideal weather for biking to your office and not arriving as a soggy mess. Nor is the city laid out in a bike friendly way – everything is spread out. The only plus is that the terrain is as flat as a pancake.

    In much of rural America, the people you see on bikes are older alcoholics who have had their licenses taken away. In Amish country you see Amish on bikes (depending on the congregation – some allow bikes, others only allow bikes without pedals or push scooters).

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  127. @Dieter Kief

    D, A and CH

    Germany, Austria and Switzerland?

    • Agree: Dieter Kief
    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  128. @Cyclist Matador

    > Cyclists are a menace to society.

    How many people are killed each year by reckless renegade cyclists? Maybe 10?

    How many are killed by shitty drivers?

    If someone has that much of an issue with not endangering others, I’d at least want them on a bike rather than behind the wheel of 3,000 pounds of machinery.

  129. roo_ster says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Critical Mass cyclists deserve what they get. Give the rest of us a bad name.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  130. DWright says:

    I believe David Feherty the golf analyst has been hit on his bike four times, some with serious injuries.
    Of course, given his disposition he probably provoked some of it.

  131. It appears that Orwell’s Notes on Nationalism applies to bicycles too.

  132. Rapparee says:
    @Jack D

    Cars and bikes are natural enemies – when I ‘m on a bike I hate drivers and when I’m driving I hate bicyclists, so the best thing to do is to keep the enemies apart.

    It’s almost like the real problem isn’t a particular method of transportation, it’s that human beings in general are selfish, inconsiderate jerks. Whilst we’re ranting about the evils of bikes and cars, can we throw in a word about pedestrians who jaywalk when they’re 20 feet from a perfectly good crosswalk, and people with shopping carts who block entire aisles at the grocery store and stubbornly ignore everyone trying to squeeze by?

    A lot of problems stem from urban planners’ refusal to acknowledge the difference between “roads” and “streets”. Roads exist for efficient high-speed travel between population centers. Streets exist to facilitate large numbers of people popping in and out of shops, restaurants, and business offices. A particular area usually needs one or the other, but instead we mostly end up with “stroads”- Frankenstein monstrosities combining dense pedestrian and bicycle traffic with high-speed multi-lane auto thoroughfares, with predictably lethal results. Trying to figure out ways to make it easier for cars to access densely populated urban centers is as pointless and stupid as trying to get more pedestrians and cyclists to use the Eisenhower Interstate System.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  133. @Altai

    OMG the horror in those photos! All those white people! That will change soon enough.

    Yes, some places are perfect for bike lanes and pedestrian paths too.

    Those riders in Copenhagen (and the ones in China too) are not the assholes who pretend to be racers and dress up in Lance Armstrong costumes. I know a 75 year-old man who was beat up when he was 72 by one of them who didn’t like how the man’s truck blocked his way. True story here, made the paper. Now, the man can be cantankerous, and he got into an argument with the Lance Armstrong, but that is no excuse for a young stockbroker in spandex to beat up an old guy.

    The funniest part about this now-old phenomenon in America of cyclists who hog the roads in pelotons is that guys like Steve and I were riding that style of bike all over the place back in the 1970s when we were kids. I went up and down mountains, switchbacks, high altitudes, etc, with a rubber band around my right pant leg to keep it from catching in the double sprocket on my Raleigh Record. When I got to college I’d outgrown the Raleigh and bought a Peugeot that I regularly rode to the top of Flagstaff mountain — wearing hiking shorts and a t-shirt.

  134. @Altai

    The trouble with bike paths is that bicyclists feel too safe. So you get children who can’t ride a straight line and adults who seemingly don’t know right from left. In over ten thousand miles over fifty+ years of bicycling, I’ve never hit or been hit by a car, but I’ve had a couple accidents with idiot bicyclists and quite a few close calls.

    I prefer riding among cars because I’m less likely to encounter the more irresponsible kind of bicyclist there.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  135. Corn says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Your friend was misinformed or pulling your chain. One need not have a drivers license to get a traffic ticket or arrest. Hell in my neck of the woods guys have been cited for DUIs on lawnmowers.

  136. @Sid

    Of course. They are moving forward while we are moving backward.

    And we are being told to move backward and to admire how they are moving forward!

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  137. @Rapparee

    most cyclists who approach me from behind don’t bother to ring a bell or shout a warning until they’re practically on top of me, and I have to essentially leap out of the way.

    This is a problem in my area and as I walk a lot, I’ve taken to wearing a little rear-view mirror that mounts on my eyeglasses. It’s increased my safety while decreasing my anxiety — well worth the price of looking like a dork.

    • Replies: @res
  138. MarcB. says:

    The cycling hysteria is another cudgel used on SWPL to promote Smart Cities and Sustainable Development, which are gateways to UN’s Agenda 21. Critical Mass zealots have been exhibiting their obnoxiousness on Friday nights in San Francisco as far back as the early 1990′s.

  139. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:

    Its mostly just stupid status signaling, with some exceptions for suburb analogues where its sorta useful.

    Public transit is by far and wide the most useful form of commute there for the vast majority. Electric bikes are popular for obvious reasons, as they combine portability with laziness. Exact comparisons are difficult since its so different; for example, for many, “shopping” consists of ordering something online and then taking the elevator down from the condo the downstair superstore to pick up the items.

    The technology level in the tier 1 cities is significantly above that in the US, most analogies do not really take that in account.

  140. @Jus' Sayin'...

    What puzzles me and annoys other commenters here is that bicycles are supposed to be subject to the same laws as other vehicles, yet cyclists ride in the narrow chasm between auto traffic and parked cars, which IMHO is just a matter of time before hitting a door. Cars don’t drive that close to parked cars because they might hit a door, but cyclists do even though they are the ones who will suffer in a collision.

    FWIW, since that night I always briefly crack the car door an inch or two before opening it fully so any traffic that I haven’t seen (bike, car, ped, whatever) will have a warning the door is about to open. I don’t know who was “really” at fault that night, but I don’t want it to happen again.

    This guy also got an settlement from my insurer, but I don’t recall the amount, if I ever knew it.

    Speaking of which, it sounds like you’ve got a minor side income going from insurance settlements …

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    , @res
    , @Jack D
  141. One thing the state of Illinois gets right: we have a constitutional right (WTF?) to ride motorcycles without a helmet. Works for me.

    If you’re riding a motorcycle and you’re worried about safety, get a car. Much safer.

    • Replies: @Christian Moon
  142. AndrewR says:

    Enlightened commenters inform me that Danes should happily welcome floods of Eastern Europeans because all white people are the same.

    • Replies: @Altai
    , @Charles Pewitt
  143. Anon[349] • Disclaimer says:

    As municipal budgets get stretched, expect more $100,000 bike paths and fewer $10 million road projects. Don’t like it? Hey, all those retired 50 yr old local fireman gotta keep their Florida condos somehow.

    Municipal bike paths and road projects are funded from fuel taxes paid by consumers and impact fees paid by residential and commercial property developers. (And, of course, the state will often chip in from their transportation-dedicated funds.)

    I’m no fan of overpaid and over-pensioned government workers, but a firefighter’s pension is funded by the joint contributions of the firefighter and the municipality’s general fund while the firefighter was working. By the time that firefighter retires his pension is fully funded for the rest of his expected life. (Or, at least that’s the way it’s supposed to work, but often the joint contributions are too low and the projected earnings on those contributions are too high.)

  144. CCR says:

    Anyone who watches liveleak regularly won’t believe that the Chinese are safe or courteous bicycle riders.

  145. Finspapa says:

    Amen. That’s all.

  146. Thank you so much for saying this. Bicycles are a menace and the single worst thing to happen to urban quality of life since the crack epidemic.

  147. jim jones says:
    @art guerrilla

    Motorcycles are ten times as dangerous, everything happens that much faster

  148. AndrewR says:
    @Jack D

    I see your point, but, while summers in Houston are hot and muggy, the average high temperature doesn’t exceed 95°F during any time of the year, and seven months have an average high of 82° or below.

    I used to live in San Antonio which has a similar climate. My co-worker would ride his bike in most days and shower before work. It was in a hospital so he’d just bring his scrubs to and from work in his backpack. Of course, not all workplaces have showers. And I should note that he was hit by a car on his way home one day; fortunately, his injuries were minor.

  149. @Jack D

    Again if you want to play then victim card you shoudnt bloviate as much as you do. Not three days ago you were whining about blacks as the new samurais and about how when who dress certain ways are asking for it. Sound and fury for thee unending deference for me is about the most insidious attitude possible. It’s clear you want bikers to be a protected samurai class catered to incessantly. I called you on your BS. You are congenital incapable of giving anyone outside your concentric tribal identity a moment of empathy. You screech like a war mad Prussian Junker at NAMs and then retreat disgracefully to SJW victimization mentality the second your group is threatened.

    I’ll tell you what Lincoln told the Indians there are a shit ton more of us than there are of you shape up or I can’t make any promises. This isn’t really a negotiation your tribalists at critical mass et. al. poisoned the well unceasing humility and punctilious deference might save your cause any old man impotent fussing is just going to make things worse.

  150. OT: In more important news, Hungary has passed its “Stop Soros” laws, making it illegal to fund and support invaders. Too bad we don’t have laws like that in the United States.

    Viktor Orban is a hero. The Hungarian people, once again, are fighting a battle on their beachhead in the middle of Europe.

  151. fish says:

    Apparently the Chinese have a huge demand for automobiles because they’ve had enough of cycling.

    Wait till they spend 10 years crossing the Altamont Pass at 2 mph between Tracy and Livermore!

    They’ll be crying to start pedaling again!

  152. AndrewR says:
    @Buzz Mohawk


    You sound like a crude caricature of some modernist ideologue straight out of 1910.

    Yes, cars can certainly be useful. But the idea that becoming overly dependent on such polluting, loud, expensive and dangerous machines is “moving forward” and that trying to reduce our dependence on them is “backwards” is insanity.

    • Agree: Corn
    • Troll: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Corn
  153. @res

    I’ve been barreled into by bikers twice in my life. Both times I was up off the ground before the incompetent biker was because thankfully I’m tall and an ex-jock so I keep in shape. The bikers on the other hand looked more like A/V club types.

    My mother wasn’t so lucky she ended up with a broken knee thanks to some biker who had somewhere important to be in Birmingham, MI hard to imagine what but there you go. That biker didn’t even stop to help just yelled at her and rode off probally to soccer practice in an over 40 league.

    So I guess boo hoo drink more milk. Sorry we can’t all exit through the sun roof for the new samurais of the six speed.

    • Replies: @res
  154. @res

    “manly” men quit riding bikes when they’re old enough to get their driver’s licenses. Leave your childish ways, etc etc

    • Replies: @res
  155. @Almost Missouri

    “…yet cyclists ride in the narrow chasm between auto traffic and parked cars…”

    Damned if bicyclists do, damned if they don’t. If I were to ride in the middle of the lane rather than to the far right – or as you put it “ride in the narrow chasm between auto traffic and parked cars” – I would probably be assaulted by some annoyed driver who feels that I’m impinging on his territory. Once, when I had a legitimate reason for being in this position, e.g., I was making a left turn and signaling my intention, some ass put me and oncoming drivers in danger so he could pull up on my left, into on-coming traffic, and berate me for following state law.

    I’ve made three insurance claims in my life. In all cases the other drivers were 100% at fault and the insurance companies paid up without demur. The two bicycle accidents were separated by a space of nearly forty years. That’s hardly a record that suggests reckless behavior or insurance scamming.

    BTW, in every state I’ve ever bicycled in – around twenty or so – I’ve made it a habit to learn the laws regarding bicycles and motor vehicles. In at least five of these motor vehicle occupants are entirely responsible for ensuring the safety of others when they open vehicle doors on the driver’s side. I suspect the police in your case cut you a big break.

  156. Cyclists are fair haired boys? Well, damn their white, male privilege!

  157. I wish I could feel sorry for the cyclist who hit me while he sailed through a red light while going the wrong way on a one-way street, but I was too busy looking out for the children, in the cross-walk, that he would have hit if my car hadn’t stopped in his path to let them cross.

  158. JimB says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Bicyclists who are struck by driver’s side doors opened heedlessly…

    It’s hard enough getting people to check side and rear view mirrors when they drive, let alone after they park. A jogger or cyclist must assume a vehicle operator doesn’t see him unless there is eye contact i.e. the burden is on the cyclist to confirm that eye contact which requires slowing down or stopping.

    • Replies: @res
  159. Brutusale says:

    I ride my bike like I have a target on my back. I have no sympathy for idiots these days, in my town mostly on those rental bikes that are everywhere now, putting themselves and others at risk with their two-wheeled antics.

    • Replies: @res
  160. Ximenes says:

    Be honest, when you see a bicyclist blow through a stop sign or red light, does it make you mad because he has put himself or someone else in danger, or simply because he broke a law with impunity? Bicyclists don’t like to stop for obvious reasons, it takes their own muscle power to get back to speed, unlike the motorist who just steps on the accelerator.

    I blow through stop signs all the time– at my own risk and only when there’s no one coming. My observation is that this pisses people off because of my attitude, not my action.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  161. res says:
    @Jack D

    I agree with your whole comment. (perhaps with a partial exception for the fault bit, I think there is fault on both sides there, exact amount dependent on specifics)

    The biker OTOH sees a stopped bus and even though he has the ROW in the bike lane should be watching for people emerging from it.

    I hope it was clear that this is exactly what I was advocating. It does become tiresome though (in similar fashion to cyclist bad behavior becoming tiresome for drivers, including me). I find using the bike lane as a loading/unloading zone (e.g. let’s pull stuff out of the car and leave it there while we get things sorted out, or all just stand around for a while) much more annoying than the occasional obliviousness getting out of a bus. I also think the bus driver/company have some responsibility to caution disembarking passengers about a hazard like that.

    Perhaps I should add the detail that the location in question is usually the site of the entire bus un/loading–not just a few passengers. And often at somewhat random spots, not a single well defined bus stop.

  162. The worst are those groups of cyclists of a certain age who take up half the road going <10 mph completely decked out in Lycra.

    I am not sure if this is a nation-wide phenomenon

    • Replies: @res
  163. @Cyclist Matador

    > Cyclists are a menace to society.

    How many people are killed or maimed by motorists?

    Cyclists (and pedestrians) who do not obey traffic laws should be sanctioned, but, come on!
    Motorists are a far greater menace than cyclists, don’t you think?

  164. @Tiny Duck

    Have you thought about writing a column-length article? I think Mr. Unz needs a regular humor column.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  165. res says:
    @Almost Missouri

    yet cyclists ride in the narrow chasm between auto traffic and parked cars, which IMHO is just a matter of time before hitting a door.

    That is the problem. What should cyclists do? Taking the whole lane is generally frowned upon (to understate severely).

    Is it so hard to take a quick glance in the side mirror before reaching for the door handle and look to the left as you open the door? And open the door gradually rather than flinging it open?

  166. @Thorfinnsson

    Couldn’t agree more. There are the normal bicyclists in street clothes who may occasionally bend rules but defer to autos/pedestrians pragmatically, then there are the bicyclists, very often ironically overweight, whose callous flaunting of all traffic law and convention makes everybody look like an asshole. I’d generalize about the demographics of the latter but I know how sensitive the commenters here can get ’bout their generation.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  167. res says:
    @International Jew

    I find paying attention to sounds (e.g. no or minimal volume earbuds) and keeping to the right work wonders.

    There is bad behavior on both sides everyone. Look to and take responsibility for your own behavior first (as IJ does).

  168. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    You got that right, William. These insufferable road cyclists nowadays, zipping around on their speed machines, seem to be guided by their own selfish inversion of the venerable Wesleyian ethic:

    Go as fast as you can
    Look as stylish as you can
    Flaunt your power and fitness as best you can
    For as long as you can.

  169. @AndrewR

    … polluting, loud, expensive and dangerous machines…

    You’re right. The way you describe them, it’s a wonder we’re allowed to own automobiles at all!

    You’re the one who sounds ancient, as that is exactly how horse-and-buggy people first described cars.

  170. Russ says:

    Decades ago, my first-ever trip into downtown San Francisco featured a bicyclist at a red light stopped alongside a truck. I’ve no idea what precipitated what followed, but a moose of a man emerged from behind the truck wheel, grabbed the bicycle fore and aft, heaved it and bicyclist rearward, cursed the bicyclist, re-entered the truck, and drove away. There you go.

  171. res says:
    @Sam Haysom

    You are quite the internet tough guy. Sorry about what happened to your mother. That helps explain your crankiness on the topic.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  172. @art guerrilla

    Thank you, Mr. Guerilla!

    To the matresses, bitchez!

  173. @anonymous


    To back up Art Guerilla some more, it’s the idiots who are on the electronics or can’t focus in the distance anymore because they spend 8 hours daily looking at 10″ away that are scary. It’s not just what rules people break but how predictable they are.

    If some car is rolling through the stop sign, that doesn’t bother me a bit. I just need to know if he is going to go or not go. Just make a damn decision! I need to know whether to go in front or behind you. Now you’ve got people, slightly safer than driving while texting or web-surfing, staying stopped at a stop sign until they finish. I can’t see their fingers. I can only see that whether their eyes are on me or not. How do I know when they are going to just look up and mash the gas pedal down? This applies whether I am obeying the rules or not.

    No, there are no laws of the road that supercede the first law of street bicycling. KEEP AWAY FROM THE CARS.

  174. res says:
    @William Badwhite

    Depends on where you live. When you live in an area with great biking both on and off road as well as dysfunctional enough traffic and parking to make a bike convenient for getting around then things look different.

    And to be clear (since I have been going on a bit from the cyclists point of view), yes there are many asshole cyclists (and drivers, and pedestrians) out there. My particular cyclist pet peeves are taking the full lane when it is unnecessary (pelotons riding two or more abreast are a particularly egregious example), running stop signs in front of waiting cars, and unsafe (the definition of this can get complex) riding around pedestrians when they have right of way.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  175. Lot says:

    Another academic who is a full time left wing and anti white activist.

    End all federal student loan programs! 80% of these people will get thrown out of work. We have no bigger class enemy than college professors and staff.

  176. @Stealth

    What irritates me the most is that they seem to refuse to remain in the bike lane.

    I have one word in refutation, Stealth – DOORS.

    Got it? OK, CAR DOORS. Unless there are serious separated bike lanes as they have in Holland (I’m going by other commenters), then you need to ride out of the bike lane line often to avoid car doors. There’s no way you can stop in time for a car door opened by someone who doesn’t think to, or take the time to, look back. It’s safer to deal with people that (might, hopefully) be looking at you, than with some door that will get you thrown 20 ft. over the bike onto your head.

  177. Altai says:

    I always laugh because some on the alt-right (Typically the ones who used to be hard-core libertarians and so are used to taking ideas too seriously to logical extremes) claim that Western nations should welcome Poles precisely because the Poles/Hungarians are so nationalistic and ethnocentric. Ie, the traits that make one bad guests and immigrants. (I don’t see any evidence that these immigrants are raising up to defend the interests of the native ethnicity. Quite the opposite.)

    But these commentators come from countries without any such immigration and so perhaps imagine Polish immigrants as just Swedes without any cultural self-loathing. (That would actually be Danes)

    To paraphrase Trump. they’re not sending their best and even if they were who cares, it’s not like any of these places has excess housing or wage growth. A Denmark full of Swedes wouldn’t be Denmark, let alone a Denmark full of Poles.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  178. Clyde says:

    except that most cyclists who approach me from behind don’t bother to ring a bell or shout a warning until they’re practically on top of me, and I have to essentially leap out of the way.

    They should buy a bell or horn and use it. Your above situation is tolerable to me. When I am walking on the sidewalk, what gets me pissed are the cyclists who speed by me from the rear and miss me by six inches. No bell, yell or horn. I know one in particular and I will clothesline him next time. If a cyclist goes by me slowly and carefully with no bell or horn warning, I can live with this.

  179. Forbes says:

    There are plenty of bike assholes, as I call them, and give all riders a bad name.

    But then there are plenty of drivers who don’t look and don’t share the road, turn in front of you from the second lane, don’t signal, open doors in traffic, and all sorts of reckless driving from the safe cocoon of their vehicle that would result in a rider going down and being severely injured.

    I’m sure you all think that funny!

    NYC has installed all sorts of bike lanes, now taken over by e-bikes that run regular cyclists off the road.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  180. @Steve Sailer

    Same kind of thing in Boulder. I used the paths and watched the system grow over the years. It’s beautiful.

    Some people here think any criticism of bicycles as opposed to cars is somehow anti-bike and pro-car dependency. It is not. There are places for everything, and everybody needs to operate their wheels and feet properly, with courtesy and situational awareness.

    What is annoying is a reflexive, left-leaning aggression against modern America that has been going on all my life — and people who are spring-loaded to hear everything in favor of our well-established industrialized convenience as some sort of political statement by a troglodyte.

    People ride bikes and that’s great. Whoop-di-frickin’-do.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  181. gunner29 says:

    I tried a bike at college 50 years ago. That was too dangerous not being able to keep up with traffic.

    So I parked the bike and got a motorcycle. By comparison, that was a lot safer to ride in college town traffic. Except for the professor’s wives in the Mercedes SL250, they would blow past me just barely giving me enough room to stay upright. This was on a two lane road, I was doing the speed limit and that was too slow for them….

    I live out in the country, so no bike lanes. I get to share the road with the cars. If I ride the fog line, I get punctures like crazy because the cars aren’t cleaning the broken glass and sharp gravel off the road.

    Then, the cars are sure there’s enough room to stay in their lane as they’re passing me, instead of going in the opposing lane while I’m there.

    So I ride about 2 feet into the road, that forces them to at least straddle the center line to get by me.

    There’s some kind of weird deal going on with how often two opposing cars and me all end up in the same place, at the same time….these are roads with maybe 2 cars a minute on them. So not high volume. I don’t get it.

    • Replies: @Intellectual Pariah
  182. res says:

    There is a lot to what you say, but have you ever tried to practice that riding along a long row of parked cars? It is hard to pick up people sitting in the driver’s seat in every single car.

    Simply not flinging the door open into traffic–just open it gradually–would help a great deal. I don’t think that is too much to ask. What I try to do is open the door a little then push it open further as I turn to get out.

    To be clear, if a cyclist actually sees the car park or someone sitting in the driver’s seat then he is an idiot if he proceeds past it with anything other than extreme caution.

    On another note, what do you do when you think you have eye contact with a vehicle operator and he proceeds to turn directly in front of you? That happened to me once when an older gentleman made a left turn right in front of me (into a parking lot at about 15 mph). I was able to avoid the accident, but was still rather upset. I just don’t think he saw me. Not sure why, bad vision, not looking for cyclists, distracted, who knows…

    • Replies: @JimB
  183. Woman Killed By Bicyclist In Central Park: Sept 22, 2014.

    Central park now rigidly enforces traffic lights for bicycles and ticket those that don’t comply, though the bicyclers in Hudson River Park are a disaster waiting to happen.

  184. res says:

    Agreed. It is depressing how much confusion I cause when I actually stop at a stop sign on my bike. Although I find emphasizing the stop by putting my foot on the ground helps a lot.

  185. peterike says:

    Cycling in America was much easier and safer in many places when there were 100 million fewer people around. Immigration ruined cycling, like it ruins everything.

  186. @AndrewR

    Enlightened commenters inform me that Danes should happily welcome floods of Eastern Europeans because all white people are the same.

    East Europeans should be deported from Denmark as fast as possible. All non-Europeans should be removed from Denmark. Danish women are beautiful and they should be for the Danish men. I’ll lead an expeditionary force to free Denmark from its evil ruling class just as soon as we remove the evil USA ruling class from power.

    Denmark for the Danes.

    If Norwegians need to cross into Danish territory in order to tear off a chunk of Poland, that might be permissible.

    I love East Europeans — when they stay in East Europe.

  187. @Anon

    LOL (never seen the show … might have to!)

    Part of that reminded me of rollerblading through the grocery store a few times. What a blast, man! The tiles are so slick compared to the road; there is almost no rolling resistance, and all you have to do is think “I want to pick up some pasta.” and you are right there by the macaroni before you can even finish the thought.

    The store clerks were too PC to feel they should say anything (maybe they thought I was, like, handicapped in some way, man, to where I could not walk but I could rollerblade like nobody’s business.) The manager was too slow to keep up with me to say something! Good times … good times!

  188. res says:
    @Anthony Wayne

    I am not sure if this is a nation-wide phenomenon

    I think it is, but I also think it is much worse in some particular places.

  189. Jack D says:
    @Almost Missouri

    yet cyclists ride in the narrow chasm between auto traffic and parked cars, which IMHO is just a matter of time before hitting a door.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. If cyclists were riding in the traffic lane and slowing you down you’d complain about that instead.

    The law in most places is clear (which is why your insurer paid a settlement and why you were lucky to escape a ticket) – before you open your door you are responsible for determining that the way is clear just as you can’t drive into an intersection from a stop sign without checking. I’m sure you didn’t see the guy on the bike (this is what drivers honestly say all the time – no one who is not a psychopath wants to intentionally kill/maim cyclists) but you may not have been looking real hard either. At the very least you should get in the habit of opening the door slightly, then pausing to look one last time and THEN opening the door as much as you need to get out. That way you at least give the biker a chance to see you. When you are on a bike passing a line of parked cars there is often no way of knowing which door is about to suddenly open. People are often in a rush and laser focused on getting to their destination and just fling the door open. They are literally not thinking of anyone else.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    , @Almost Missouri
  190. @tj hooker

    I knew a guy that had a late-night job and, after 2 minutes of waiting at a red light that was never going to change, on his motorcycle at 2 in the morning, ran it, then got pulled over. This was before they made laws to let guys run them. Lots of the eddy-current sensors dug into the road don’t work so well, even for motorcycles, unless you approach them just right, or move back and forth a bit. You can move a piece of steel around if you’ve got some on you.

    At a local stop light I know very well, I told a guy who was sitting there on a bicycle that “hey, it’s not gonna change – you’ve got to run this one.” It was true, I know this one – it’s set for green for the bigger road until a car comes up to the intersection on the cross street. He got annoyed at my anti-authoritah attitude. It was a great lesson for my kid who was walking with me at the time about too much respect for authority. From then on, that same guy never smiled or wave to us, as I think he heard me tell my son “this guy’s an idiot – he’ll be there all day if no cars come.”

    BTW, speaking of vehicles and traffic shouldn’t you be out on a ledge riding on a hood somewhere, TJ Hooker? ;-}

  191. Some good observations – as usual – by Christopher Caldwell on this topic…

  192. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Lane space is inherently limited (unless you adopt the Beijing solution of knocking down neighborhoods and putting in 7 lane streets which is not going to fly in the US). So any dedicated bike lane is going to make car traffic worse and aggravate drivers. What drivers don’t get (and resent) is that this is not a side effect – this is part of the REASON for bike lanes. I understand that not everyone can ride a bike but realistically in a crowded city like NY there is not enough room in the streets to put 8 million people each in their own personal SUV. One way or another you need to not only make biking more attractive but force people out of their cars. Americans have a gut feeling that they have a God given Constitutional right to drive everywhere but in the new crowded America it just isn’t possible. If you are a delivery vehicle or handicapped or a car pool then OK but the idea of one 120 lb. lady per one two ton SUV is not going to work for the long term even if it feels wonderful to be in your own personal air conditioned bullet proof cocoon.

    • Replies: @JSM
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Rapparee
    , @3g4me
  193. The bicycle, originally a child’s toy in America and a cheap and utilitarian means of transportation for adults in crowded, impoverished post-WWII Europe, has in recent years become enveloped in an odor of secular sanctity through the efforts of virtue-signalling leftists. This is what gives cyclists the sense that they are absolved of compliance with the rules of the road applicable to drivers of motorized vehicles. I know of no other social phenomenon quite like it except, perhaps, for the attitudes that typically accompany veganism.

    Several years ago while traveling to a meeting in a nearby large city, almost at my destination, I signaled a turn from the left lane of a 2-way street, into the ramp where I was about to park. Just as I began the turn, a cyclist (all kitted out in spandex and helmet, as if he were in the Tour de France) passed me on the left, which was a clear violation of the rules of the road, and for which he moreover had practically no space in which to do. At the time I was driving an open 2-seater and consequently had a view all around me unobstructed by door-posts or roof, and consequently was able to see him and brake before striking him. Had I been driving a SUV I’d probably not have seen him, and a severe accident would have resulted.

    The cyclist expressed his gratitude for this near miss by giving me the finger.

    The moral vanity these people exhibit is astounding.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    , @Jack D
  194. @John Achterhof

    Bicycles are indeed a wonder of efficiency, but people always forget to mention the necessary and massive condition for all this efficiency: the tar or concrete road.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  195. @Daniel Chieh

    Have you thought about writing a column-length article? I think Mr. Unz needs a regular humor column.

    He could replace that “Ask a Mexican” mexican guy that RU thankfully unplugged.

    “Ask a retard/troll”. The problem is his responses would be like his posts – incoherent gibberish. Maybe Ron could spring for an editor. I nominate Fish for the job.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
  196. @Sid

    Another thoughtless biker

    In my college biking days I learned that it is quite easy to maneuver around pedestrians. Easier than the other way around

  197. @Dreadnought

    In South Florida, public officials are working diligently to make “them” (deplorable car-drivers) suffer:

    This was on Da Nooz the other day:

  198. @passive-aggressivist

    These dweebs also cite THE LAW as a defense for taking up the whole road with their infernal packs.

    Yes, asshole, through a defect of THE LAW you are for some mysterious reason entitled to take up an entire lane on the highway. This does not change the fact that you are an inconsiderate asshole.

    There was an article in THE GUARDIAN about this once, and one commenter (not a typical Guardian Reader I suppose) complained about cyclists riding 2×2 instead of single file as well as being below the posted speed limit.

    Of course some prick appeared to respond that cyclists are authorized to do both things by law, and that they ride 2×2 for their safety. [email protected]#$ the law, [email protected]#$ your safety, and mostly importantly–[email protected]#$ you.

    These people needed to be rounded up and sent to concentration camps.

    • Replies: @anana
  199. JSM says:
    @Jack D

    mericans have a gut feeling that they have a God given Constitutional right to drive everywhere but in the new crowded America it just isn’t possible. If you are a delivery vehicle or handicapped or a car pool then OK but the idea of one 120 lb. lady per one two ton SUV is not going to work for the long term even if it feels wonderful to be in your own personal air conditioned bullet proof cocoon.

    Screw you.
    If Leftists (like you?) hadn’t destroyed Public Transportation by forcing integration with crime-prone Blacks (hence the need for bullet-proof, individual cocoons) lots of us Americans would GLADLY not be exercising our God-Given Constitutional Right to fight traffic, bear the insanely high costs of vehicle ownership and risk our futures by being involved in accidents.

  200. Corn says:

    Congrats on the weight loss. How long does it take you to cycle 32 miles?

    • Replies: @ATate
  201. Tips For Bicyclists:

    Granny gear up hills, save your legs and knees.

    Granny gear from a stop, save your sprocket.

    Always look for road debris and other potential trouble.

    Always carry an extra tube and repair kit.

    Keep your chain straight in regards to gearing to maximize efficiency and chain life.

    Don’t taunt dogs when you are ascending a particularly steep hill.

    Eat eggs and protein and orange juice and chocolate milk.

    Check your brakes before descending into Lincoln on the Kancamagus Highway.

    Lance Armstrong is a cheating millionaire skunk and Greg LeMond never doped.

    While bicycling along the Hudson River you’ll have the opportunity to be on a high bluff while looking across the river at a nuclear power plant, and you’ll think to yourself: “Why didn’t those filthy wog rats hit that bastard with that big jet plane?”

  202. vinteuil says:
    @The Z Blog

    There are “country roads with little traffic” near Lagos?

  203. @res

    I was just busting your chops. I actually bike a fair bit though not often on major roads and never for a commute.

    My issue is that most bicyclists where I live seem to be exercising rather than commuting. Living in an area with hellish traffic (I know, that’s a small price to pay for vibrant diversity which is OUR GREATEST STRENGTH) I object to people making traffic even worse just so they can exercise. I don’t think I have a right to set up a weight set or a basketball net in the middle of the road, so would prefer the bike guys to find a different time to get in their cardio.

    I fully agree on the line-abreast dressed-like-Lance-Armstrong peloton dorks.

  204. J.Ross says: • Website

    Yet another thing that makes no sense in light of our traditions but which makes perfect sense in light of Diversity, the Long March Through the Institutions, and Chaos As Policy: punishing law-abiding people, more than anything else, because the law is now a remarkably forgiving mafia shakedown operation. If you do not hide, obfuscate, cheat and lie like a third worlder dealing with third world police, you fully deserve what’s coming your way. Fine those dumb enough to pay because that way at least you get paid. This isn’t a society, it’s a perpetual war of tribalisms. Illegal immigrants can do anything they want because finding them is like real hard man but a working class person who misses some taxes can necessitate multiple agents and months of careful investigation.
    This might be proven (beyond how obvious it is) if somehow bicycles were more expensive (and therefore a guarantor of more money to be successfully fined) than cars. The car driver is penalized because he can be penalized and not based on any higher reasoning. We see the same pattern in plenty of other tendencies, most notably that only white people can be racist or responsible for a number of crimes. Obviously in an easily demonstrated way anybody can be racist: but, we are told, the racism of whites is special in terms of potential consequences, and the clincher is that whites do not laugh in your face and throw you out of the house when you bring out the donation jar.
    It reminds me of how, when I drove a truck, yes a truck driver is the legally responsible party but no that doesn’t mean you can dance in and out of its path when I’ve got noises, lights, a big LOADING ZONE sign, and guys in the back guiding me and yelling at you. The reasoning is a often perversion of Christianity, scolding the “real bad guy,” which is determined by “power” (size/wealth/capacity to act, a standard bicycles would never fail). Instead of stoner talk about who’re really to blame “when you think about it” nobody is asking how do we order efficient and safe roadways. When you ask that question the first conclusion is forget about “blame,” get the hell out of the way.
    OT: I can’t find videos of Christopher Lasch on YouTube. I’m sure he disliked mass media and did not promote his bestselling Revolt of the Elites on Good Morning America, but I’m also sure there’s something like a Brian Lamb interview somewhere. Now that I have failed to find it I am more interested in the search results. Assuming that Google is not simply lying to gangstalk me*, there are no videos at all of Christopher Lasch, and the most relevant results for that name are harridan hectorings about how the “Alt-Right” (which Lasch did not live to see) is evil, plus some “alt-right” ish stuff (which presumably shows up here because they mention Lasch at some point? His name does not appear in their excerpts), and two unrelated guys with similarly spelled names.


    OT: EU is fighting “fake news” (that is, uncontrolled information) by giving news stories the same nominal copyright protections as — mp3s. By the way, have I mocked the technological illiteracy of our leaders today? So already, YouTube would take things down if they included music in the background (even though the exact same music itself could be uploaded as its own copyright-defying file), and now, your post about an under-reported story might be threatened because you are effectively forbidden from linking.
    Hey, have newspapers tried lighting their readers on fire? Is there something newspapers haven’t done to drive readers away? How about repetitive elevator music midis at a set volume, playing to certify that your subscription is current?
    *Yes, I honestly think there are more relevant search results (especially none of these were relevant) that are being deliberately hidden as a result of some kind of profiling base on previous searches from this machine. Google has repeatedly said that they do this. I’m also hoping somebody has results I’m not being allowed to see. Lasch is a wonderfully relevant, sober, sharp, and objective guy, despite being dead. Joe Sobran is another dead guy who speaks more to current issues than most living mainstream commentators.

  205. @John

    > [bike sharing]
    > perhaps this was a Google initiative
    > to get your credit card number
    > and your rectal temperature
    > almost simultaneously

    Good one!

  206. @Jus' Sayin'...

    I’ve always tried to look before opening doors.

    Would be interesting to investigate in a mate.
    - do they look before opening doors
    - do they slow down, wary of dooring, commute times be damned
    - could they maneuver in pedestrian traffic with skill and foresight

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  207. @Crawfurdmuir

    The bicycle, originally a child’s toy in America and a cheap and utilitarian means of transportation for adults in crowded, impoverished post-WWII Europe, has in recent years become enveloped in an odor of secular sanctity through the efforts of virtue-signalling leftists. This is what gives cyclists the sense that they are absolved of compliance with the rules of the road applicable to drivers of motorized vehicles. I know of no other social phenomenon quite like it except, perhaps, for the attitudes that typically accompany veganism.

    Bikes were big business for farm tinkerers and others because if you didn’t have a horse, you needed a bike. We remember that part of US history, Wright?

    Somebody else mentioned that paved roads were a boon for bikes, maybe so, but, bikes were beasts back when Wilbur and Orville were tinkering with bicycles and other machinery, and the roads were sometimes dirt or gravel or mud.

  208. Corn says:

    I’ve read before that after buying a car or pickup just the cost of owning and driving one (gas, registration, oil and other maintenance) can run from between $3000-8000 a year.

    I live in the country, I like it. I was raised on a farm and am used to space. But sometimes I wish I lived in town and bicycled to work.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  209. @Bill P

    There’s a case for applying traffic laws differently to cyclists, just as there’s a case for Animal Control to treat cats and dogs differently. Eg, permitting a rolling stop at stop signs, permitting riding on the sidewalk with strict respect for pedestrian right-of-way. But a strict crackdown on egregious behavior like, IMO, running stoplights. There’s an obvious need to define exactly how the laws should be relaxed, but it’s not rocket science.

  210. J.Ross says: • Website

    Out of the sacraments of Talebism — lifting, attaching your name to work and accepting consequences, mastering statistics, mastering Spanish grammar, hanging out uninvited at the workplaces of others, squid-ink pasta — the most societally helpful is rejecting bicycles.

  211. vinteuil says:
    @Jack D

    “At the very least you should get in the habit of opening the door slightly, then pausing to look one last time and THEN opening the door as much as you need to get out. That way you at least give the biker a chance to see you.”

    Sorry, but this is minoritarianism run rampant.

    Roads were built for cars, not for bicycles.

    Sidewalks were built for pedestrians, not for bicycles.

    Bicylists need to adjust their behavior to cars & pedestrians – not the other way ’round.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
    , @TomSchmidt
  212. DaninMD says:

    I have a good friend, a father of two toddler girls, who was killed on his bicycle in a DC suburb in August 2017, struck by a car from behind. My friend being dead, there was only the driver as witness. No charges.

    Was my friend one of those cyclists who demanded respect and maybe a bit of a jerk? I think so. But nobody should be angry at him for his sense of entitlement. GNON has already addressed the issue.

  213. @Mr. Anon

    Where cyclists need or wish to take the whole lane, they should be subject to the same laws you have in Oregon, where slow-moving vehicles are required to pull over when more than 5 vehicles are stacked up behind. I recalled this in my own town watching a young lady blocking possibly 50 cars flip the bird the one guy who dared to honk.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Pericles
    , @res
  214. @International Jew

    First, thanks, Steve, for the opportunity to comment on this, a subject closer to my heart than hitting a white dimpled ball across the whatever … It’s been fun reading/writing.

    IJ, your 2nd-to-last sentence had me remembering one more thing I’ll put down. This interesection was a 4-way stop with flashing reds to back it up in a neighborhood where people do no more than 35 mph. As I approached within 25 ft, I could take a look to the right, and saw a car stopping, then 2nd look left and saw a car turning – no problem. At the next look, there was a guy on a bicycle coming from the right also running the light.

    I just did a quick point forward, like “I’m going first.” and when across as the other biker slowed a tad to cross behind me. It was like clockwork, and I said “thanks” and I believe he did too.

    What I thought was funny was our thoughts about the cars. They were like bystanders. Just do your thing, cars, and leave us alone. We’ve got this. It reminds me of cats having fights outside, at which point the humans are totally immaterial to what’s going on. We’re in out world – you’re in yours. Enjoy the texting from your air-conditioned shit-box.

  215. vinteuil says:

    Speaking as a habitual pedestrian, dealing with bicyclists in Europe is just a total nightmare.

    No matter how carefully you keep to your little bit of the street, they *still* go weaving in & out, whizzing by you, at top speed, with inches to spare.

    Make any unexpected move, and you risk getting your extremities tangled in their spokes.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  216. AndrewR says:

    It’s really insane. And then you get a scratch on your bumper or something and there goes what, a grand?

    I have a friend who does collision repair. He says when more than one airbag goes off the car is usually written off by the insurance company as a total loss due to the cost of replacing them, even if the engine is largely intact.

    Cars are collectively an absolute money pit and Americans have Stockholm Syndrome.

  217. @gunner29

    In your case, a motorcycle may be safer than a bike, but that’s not general rule. According to this source, motorcyclists are 70% more likely to die in traffic accidents than bicyclists, and 1700% more likely than drivers.

  218. @Difference Maker

    Would be interesting to investigate in a mate.
    - do they look before opening doors
    - do they slow down, wary of dooring, commute times be damned
    - could they maneuver in pedestrian traffic with skill and foresight

    Interesting. Polygamy … it’s not just for breakfast Mormons anymore.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  219. @A1

    “As someone who commutes via foot I would like to see a Holy and raise a thou but cyclists don’t listen because they are busy saving the planet….”

    I noticed that when I first moved to Europe that being saviours of the planet entitled bicyclists to ride everywhere and in any direction, but I noticed they became less aggressive toward me whenenever I lifted my very sturdy golf umbrella like a lance.

  220. AndrewR says:

    That reminds me…

    I’ve always been very careful to give people a wide berth when I’m on my bike.

    In college, I was riding my bike towards my parents’ house in an upper middle class neighborhood. An NBA player from the ghetto had recently bought his mother a house down the street from us. They were having a party on this day. A large black guy got out of his car to walk towards the party. I was riding (slowly) on the very opposite side if the street. If I had been any farther away from him I would have been on the grass. As I approached him, he heard me and turned around, saying “man, in my hood you’d get knocked out for that.” I wanted to say “well we’re not in your hood, [redacted]“, but I figured that would be unwise. But it’s an interesting cultural case study of ghetto dysfunction.

  221. @TwentyCents

    Chinese people are switching from bicycles to cars as fast as they can. “No Arab loves the desert.”

    That’s a long clip, but the point is made by Alec Guinness. We who live with comforts are the ones who romanticize the lack of those things. We all do it. Those of us who hike, backpack and sleep on the ground are essentially doing something millions of others do because they have no choice.

    Too often the critics of our ways are unaware that their own existence and means of criticism would be impossible without this (White)man-made hothouse that allows flowers like them to flourish.

    • Agree: roo_ster
  222. @Dreadnought

    Liberals have been anti-car since at least the 70′s. I don’t see any evidence that they’re doing anything other than making car-owning more expensive. For instance, do any of these bike-riders NOT own a car? Nope, they drive when it makes sense, which is likely most of the time. Or they pay someone else to drive them around.

    When it comes to trade magazines, they’ve all been taken over by feminists and environmentalists. That’s what’s recommended to them by the business consultants. Even check out Costco’s monthly mag. It’s all about the latest equity, sustainability, green, fair, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, like they’re about anything but making money. I notice their big Organic push is withering away.

  223. @Jack D

    You might laugh, but I’ve driven a lot in Manhattan and in a weird way I find it preferable sometimes to driving where I live in Fairfield County. Why? Because in NYC you can elbow your way around and people know how to avoid each other.

    In NYC, the laws against things like blocking intersections and honking horns unnecessarily are strict, and people seem to just get real; whereas, here in the CT towns a commute away, many drivers now are obnoxious idiots, over the line, running lights, tailgating, speeding, you name it. Here there are no consequences except the inevitable accidents when someone is unlucky. It’s bad for cyclists too, but they are just as bad as the drivers.

    Another thing I will say about Fairfield County is that they haven’t discovered bike paths or even spaces for pedestrians in some cases where they should have them. We have beautiful country roads and lanes, but seldom room for pedestrians or bicyclists. It’s a shame. They haven’t discovered how to bury electric lines either, or place stop lights where you can see them without craning your neck. Even left turn lanes are rare.

  224. Rod1963 says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    If you didn’t drive like a entitled punk and obeyed the same rules of the road that licensed vehciles drivers do you wouldn’t have gotten “doored” On the bright side, you got a fat pay day for your entitlement.

    I rode street motorcycles for a decade and put 50,000 miles on the odometer. I never once had a issue because I obey the rules and expect people not to see me,

    You didn’t. you were lazy. You rode too close to the cars which only a fool would do and expect everyone to see your entitled hide.

    Guess what? people don’t. They don’t expect roaring fools to ride within a foot of the driver’s side door.

    This is why I have zero respect for cyclists and laugh every time they get hurt. They have earned that contempt.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  225. Bill P says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Admittedly, I’m thinking of China circa 1997 (Beijing). Back then there were few cars and cyclists moved in an orderly fashion. Cars started appearing in large numbers right after that time, and they ruined things.

  226. @John Achterhof

    Thanks for posting that.

    Certainly some cyclists are assholes, but then so are some motorists. The disgusting bile a number of these express in this thread may partly originate in the frustration and expense of driving a car: motorists, especially in city traffic jams, envy the freedom and maneuverability of the bicycle.

    A friend of mine was killed on his bike last year. He was hit by a truck, and completely blameless. No doubt some of the posters here will be happy to hear that.

  227. @European-American

    I drive a lot on garvel and sand with my trekking bike (did it today). Schwalbe Big Apple tires are perfect for that. They take everything – roman mule tracks, french backroads in the Cevennes with or without tar or concrete…

    • Replies: @European-American
  228. Sparkon says:

    Roads were built for cars, not for bicycles.

    Sidewalks were built for pedestrians, not for bicycles.

    And bike paths where they have them were built for people walking dogs, &c.

    The best plan for any bicycle rider is to avoid cars where possible, and avoid riding very closely to anything that might move suddenly, like cars & their doors, people, and especially dogs, which stupidly run in front of both cars and bicycles; plus (or minus) some dogs try to bite you, wretched beasts that they are.

    It’s all about maintaining a margin of safety.

    Boulder, Colorado has an extensive network of some of the most magnificent bicycle paths anywhere, which makes it possible to commute or run errands back and forth to town with minimal interaction with cars. As one approaches downtown Boulder, however, there is a sharp increase in interaction with other cyclists, along with pedestrians — many with dogs — joggers, skateboarders, roller bladers, unicyclists, people on pogo sticks, blind people in the tunnels — not a comprehensive list, but you get the idea — plus some of the cyclists are hauling a kid or two around in a trailer, or carrying fishing poles over their shoulder, and many are out to set personal bests between the Confluence and the public library, so they’re riding as fast as they can go like the lunatics on two wheels that they are.

    Let the rider beware.

    I don’t dress up like a jockey when I go for a ride, and most of the time I ride alone. The gaily clad but traffic-blocking peloton riders are a reflection of pack mentality. There may be strength in numbers, but stupidity can join the crowd, and often does, where mobs rule.

  229. ATate says:

    About 2 hours. I’m up at 0500 and in work around 0700. Shower and dressed by 0730 for work. I had to be in early today so I rode a shorter 18.5 mile commute but made it under an hour as I pushed a bit. I have a decent climb on the way in to work, so that drops the average speed down. I ride from my house onto a multi use path that takes me through the poorest section of town. Then I ride along the river through a park in the downtown core and along the richest area of town. Then up the hill onto the bluff where I work. All in all it’s a great ride. I have a good job too, with an office to store my shit and a workout room with lockers and showers. The ride feels good and when the weather is nice (especially in the morning) I have spiritual almost religious like moments on the ride.

    When I drive in it takes about 30 minutes. I don’t ride in the winter or when the weather is too bad, I’m not one of those weird guys with mirrors on my helmet who ride year around. I go inside on the trainer when it’s snowing. The first day riding in nice weather after the long winter feels like the euphoria you felt on the last day of school.

    There’s some magic in riding a bike for me. It feels like a secret.

    It’s too bad some people are so violent against cyclist. I find the normal bike commuters who complain about cars as boring and cunty as I do the drivers who complain about cyclist. Both sides of the same asshole coin.

  230. I am a cyclist. I take it because public transportation has become insufferable where I live ( NYC), and it is cheap and fast… I can run a half dozen errands on the way home and still get back faster than the subway. I see a lot of asshole cyclists, but the police only ticket ‘easy’ targets – in the bike lanes running a red light where there is no one around…
    yes part of the advantage of a bicyle is you can weave through traffic, but Traffic in NYC has gotten so bad between real estate development, contstruction trucks, tourist buses and the FLOOD of uber/tc&l cars that traffic so tight you literally can’t get through it on a bicyle!

  231. @Jim Christian

    I like when they get hit by buses.

    One of the funnier things I’ve read in the past few days. Thank you sir

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  232. Rapparee says:
    @Jack D

    One other important consideration is cost- thanks to many factors, including (but certainly not limited to) emissions and safety regulations, the median American household can no longer afford to buy a new car. Even the average used car is creeping up toward $20,000 in price. Combine that with increasingly crowded cities, and it is not surprising many people are ditching automobiles. (It would have been still more common if gas prices hadn’t dropped so far in recent years). Most Americans already have an old bike or two in the garage or basement that can be dusted off and easily made street-worthy for less than $100 in parts and maintenance. I couldn’t care less about my “carbon footprint” or any such nonsense, but it’s nice to be “green-friendly”- referring, of course, to the colour of cold, hard cash.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  233. @Danindc

    Ambulance and insurance settlement, as mentioned elsewhere.

  234. 3g4me says:
    @Jack D

    @ 198 Jack D: ” One way or another you need to not only make biking more attractive but force people out of their cars. Americans have a gut feeling that they have a God given Constitutional right to drive everywhere but in the new crowded America it just isn’t possible. ”

    Golly gee whiz, mass immigration, muh melting pot, and agenda 21 all in one nice, neat package. You truly are the ‘perfect immigrant,’ Jack. Your luv for Weimarica shines through every word.

  235. @CCZ

    I’m all for letting the people of these pre-textual police enforcement measures do their own community based policing.

  236. @Jack D

    “Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. If cyclists were riding in the traffic lane and slowing you down you’d complain about that instead.”

    I would, but at least the cyclists wouldn’t be breaking the law. Like most drivers, I’m capable of being annoyed yet allowing for when others are within their rights.

  237. @Altai

    It’s almost as if, ceteris paribus, Europeans make better societies – and do just about everything better, for that mattter – than do Orientals.

    To quote an African: It’s one of those things that makes you go “Hmmmm.”

  238. @RichardTaylor

    Cyclists are the worst. Their sense of entitlement is through the roof. But what really gets me, is the desire of grown men to be seen in tight, shiny, spandex pants.

    Like this?

  239. Anon7 says:

    In 1900 everyone was welcome to use the street: kids played in it, horses ambled along in it, people walked and biked in it. Mr. Ford’s invention changed everything.

    The classic linguistic kill shot “jaywalking” was created to brand anyone not in a car as a country cousin who just fell off the turnip truck. AAA took over the safety training of children, teaching crossing at intersections, preferably with the assistance of a crossing “guard”.

    It’s hard to change 100 years of habit, especially when it greatly profits multinational megacorps.

  240. @Dreadnought

    The federal highway trust fund, which is funded by gasoline taxes that are paid by drivers of cars, is regularly raided by Congree for bike paths, trails along abandoned rail lines, and other yuppie stupidity.

  241. @Anonym

    Absolutely not. Compliance with the rules of the road is best for two major reasons: 1) It is objectively safer not only for the cyclist, but for those around them (Example – non-compliant cyclist causes motorist to swerve to avoid the road hazard caused by lawless cyclist behavior, leading to the injury of death of other motorists or pedestrians); 2) Increasing the respect that they enjoy from motorists and pedestrians alike, fewer pissed off drivers and pedestrians results in a reduction of injuries to cyclists by drivers becoming accustomed to and angered by cyclists showing no respect for the rules of the road, and both motorists and pedestrians rewarding better behavior through giving a more sympathetic hearing for cyclists’ needs.

    And in regard to the equality of outcome in cyclist/pedestrian collisions, who the fuck are you kidding? Many cyclists wear helmets to protect their heads, pedestrians almost never. When a pedestrian has their head slammed into something hard while being knocked down by some cyclist, they get hurt, seriously hurt. I know of several fatal cyclist/pedestrian collisions in the Philadelphia region in recent years, and without exception they were due to reckless, law-breaking behavior by the cyclist.

    When I cycled a lot some years back, I always respected the traffic laws – stop signs, traffic signals, even indicating turns with hand signals. The only times I suffered injurious falls were due to road surface irregularities, or sand wash outs, not from aggressive drivers. And I always – always – wore a helmet.

    So the poor babies who might have to start out from a dead stop, and work their way through some gear shifting? Tough, goes with the territory.

    • Replies: @Anonym
  242. JMcG says:
    @Reactionary Utopian

    I agree about the obnoxious motorcycle pipes. I think I have the only Harley with stock exhaust pipes in the United States. What is different now is that 99% of cops have Harley’s with straight pipes as well. They match the sleeve tattoos they also seem to have taken to.

  243. @Stan Adams

    He’s referring to the abbreviations that appear on those stickers. What with all the country names starting in ‘S’, Switzerland went with Confederatia Helvetica!

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  244. @jim jones

    Motorcycles are ten times as dangerous, everything happens that much faster

    Motorcycles are ten times as much fun, too!

  245. @WowJustWow

    I’ve wondered about this too. Maybe the Peltzman Effect here grows out of advances in surgical technique? Surgeons can patch you and your bones and your joints better than they used to. Not nearly as well, I suspect, as many people think, but still I’m struck by what seems like an easygoing cultural attitude toward breaking bones. People joke about breaking bones, mountain bike ads and magazines show guys doing near-suicidal things, etc. Even as a badly broken shoulder is always a life-changing change, and a concussion is far more serious than we might be led to believe from the many movie scenes where the good guy gets knocked out in a fist fight.

    Attitudes to cancer are strikingly different. People have voted for absurd zero-tolerance policies to substances that, in huge doses and only in huge doses, cause cancer in rats. People are terrified of living near high-voltage power lines (despite solid proof there’s no radiation danger). Of course cancer is no joke, but people who live in fear of second-hand cigarette smoke and yet bicycle-commute on busy streets, seem to be acting inconsistently.

    • Replies: @WowJustWow
  246. @Sam Haysom

    You’re as grumpy as an old maid in a room full of toddlers.

  247. @art guerrilla

    (even though it appears my last innocuous comment is still being held for moderation 3-4 days later… whatever…)

    I think I know why, Art Gorilla. It could be that your super special syntax is a bit try-hard. Before posting … relax, let the solvent fumes dissipate, gather your thoughts, and wow us with your newly focused insights. I’m rootin’ for ya, pal! :)

  248. Jack D says:

    The bicycle, originally a child’s toy in America

    Bzzt, wrong. Just before the invention of the automobile, America had a vast bicycle craze and it was very much an adult form of transportation. But then we began our love affair with the car and the bike was relegated to children (until the 10 speed boom of the ’70s).

    Modern America is filled with selfish jerks of all sorts. The difference is that driver jerks can kill you but cyclist jerks can only scratch your car.

  249. Altai says:

    Has Steve seen the BBC Newsnight interview of the deputy leader of the AfD?

    Emily Maitlis is Jewish and almost has a full-on meltdown. Think Cathy Newman was a bit biased against Jordan Peterson? Maitlis loses her mind at the suggestion that failed asylum seekers should be deported.

    The ethnic hatred she clearly has towards Germans and a desire to see them ethnic cleansed is so transparent if this wasn’t a live broadcast I think even the BBC would have shelved it. Even if the motive wasn’t obvious the clearly unprofessional barking she is doing in the interview is astounding. Even Von Storch, who as deputy leader of the AfD must be used to hostile media receptions is shocked.

  250. Brutusale says:
    @Jim Christian

    Jim, a few years ago I was in the Financial District on Congress St. when the light turned green and all of a sudden one of those dumbass stoner couriers, who’d blown off the red light, hit the side of the car in the right lane, flew over the guy’s hood and ended up crumpled by my right front tire.

    Darwin will not be flouted!

    • Agree: Jim Christian
  251. @Dreadnought

    The bicycle lane on the new San Francisco Bay Bridge is an especially egregious example of resource distortion in favor of bicyclists.

  252. Jack D says:

    When I was in Tianjin and I (actually my son who speaks Mandarin) told the cab driver to take me to the train station for the overnight train to Shanghai, he couldn’t believe it. He assumed that anyone with money would want to take a 2 hr plane ride and not spend 12 hours on a sleeper train. He just couldn’t understand why we were taking the train. It’s not something I would want to do regularly but it was an interesting thing to do once (when you pressed the flush pedal on the toilet you could see daylight – it just dumped the contents of the toilet directly onto the tracks). Of course now there is a high speed train that makes the trip in 4 hours (Amtrak will get you from Boston to Fayetteville, NC, which is about the same distance, in a zippy 15 hours).

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    , @Buck Turgidson
  253. @Charles Pewitt

    …you’ll have the opportunity to be on a high bluff while looking across the river at a nuclear power plant, and you’ll think to yourself: “Why didn’t those filthy wog rats hit that bastard with that big jet plane?”

    That gave me a belly-laugh for an entire minute!

  254. @art guerrilla

    AND that our transportation systems/circulation are mostly NOT amenable to ANY OTHER form of transport EXCEPT cars… THAT is THE problem…

    It’s not THE problem but your problem though. The reason the public transportation systems are mainly not amenable to any other transport than cars, it is because most people want to (and do) drive cars. You personally see this as a ‘problem’ because you want to ride a bike instead, but seriously, is the public transport system expected to conform to the needs of most commuters or just a few odd people who demand to be different and then demand special accommodation?

    I can as easily complain that the government and the power companies and the electricity grid only accommodate people who use 120/240V 60Hz equipment, and the problem is they don’t do enough to provide power for people who choose to buy 230V 50Hz european blenders and stereos on Amazon.

    The issue with bicycles is they are in no man’s land. The walkers don’t want to share a road (sidewalk) with them because they move too fast compared to walking. Personally I think they should always stay on the sidewalk because they are muscle powered and where necessary you can walk them. Operators of any type of motored vehicle do not want to share the road with them because they move, top speed, barely faster than spry pedestrians trying to run down the road in traffic.

    You can solve a lot of this if you just put a motor on your bike. I mean, the other drivers still won’t drive any better so you will have to pay extra attention because your life will be in mortal danger constantly, but you’ll still be nimble enough to violate all the rules when the cops aren’t around, and at least you don’t have to complain about the public infrastructure because you have chosen a late 19th century transportation device that moves much faster than walking but can’t keep up with modern traffic. I know it sucks, the FAA won’t give my hydrogen zeppelin flight clearance either because they say it can’t get the hell out of the way of plains fast enough and it will burn down whatever it lands on after it blows up.

    • Agree: JMcG
  255. @Anonym

    Anonym, Years ago when I was still an Ironworker, a member of my local was struck and killed by a cyclist. He and his wife were exiting a café when a nit wit on a ten speed plowed into him, knocking him to the sidewalk were he suffered a fatal head injury. Sad thing is, Hoppy had survived a fall from a bridge a few years prior.

  256. Western says:

    I really can’t stand it when cyclists ride on busy 2 lane roads with no apron. They can slow traffic down because cars have to wait to have room to go into the opposite lane to pass.

    I used to ride years ago and I tried to avoid those roads. I learned to avoid them when people would swear at me from their cars. Bikes really shouldn’t be allowed on roads like that.

  257. I was riding my bike yesterday and my thoughts naturally drifted to the awesomeness of mike trout, wondering if mike trout was a cyclist at all.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  258. @Almost Missouri

    The cops surveyed the situation and said they wouldn’t charge me even though it was technically illegal in that town to exit one’s vehicle on the driver’s side (which law they admitted no one obeyed).

    This is generally the law everywhere, as it makes things easier if there is an accident.

  259. Western says:

    “Cities in many more ways are flawed designs, impossible to correct, back to the drawing board. Since more then sixty? percent of the global population is ghetto-ed in them, there is nothing that craves drastical redesign more.”

    It is a disaster when you mix cars, buses, bikes, and pedestrians.

    European cities, largely built before cars, have become choked with cars

    Buses get stuck in traffic jams with cars. If buses could move freely they would be really useful.

    It probably impossible to really fix our cities. It would be best to start a new city build around walking and transit leaving cars in garages on the outskirts like Venice.

    Streets for People is an excellent book. It’s by Bernard Rudoslsky.

  260. @International Jew

    Ah. Interesting.

    Incidentally, my iPhone did not want me to type that umlaut. I kept pressing down on the O key and the menu kept flashing on and off as I tried to slide my finger over to the right letter.

  261. @Altai

    In my limited time in Amsterdam I noticed that cyclists move at about 3-4x walking speed, 10-12 mph. In American college towns they act like it’s the Tour de France. US infrastructure isn’t well suited to cyclists. My college town has a system of bike paths that makes bike commuting possible. I use it.

  262. @BuckeyeBill

    “You’re wrapped in 1500 lbs of steel”

    More like 3500 – 5500 lbs

  263. anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    You forgot Beware of Street Drain Grates…and the nuclear power plant by the Hudson? It is being closed by Cuomo II so that:

    1-there will be an electrical power shortage in the area

    2-which will make wind power generation suddenly more feasible, even necessary

    3-which will allow the Gov’s political friends to make money.

    It is kind of like the elves/underpants theft scheme, except this one will actually work.

  264. “What occasioned this?”

    Maybe Mr. Sailer also caught the iSteveiest story ever of the Seattle nonbinary cyclist of color who fought for social justice for all “theys” on two wheels, until they got their zaftig self eaten by a cougar.
    They worked “to make the biking community a more welcoming and safe place for women, trans and nonbinary cyclists of color, because they had seen a lack of representation of women, trans, femme and nonbinary people of color in the community, and described mistreatment of such cyclists in bike shops.”

    Cougar-attack victim S.J. Brooks was leader for inclusivity in bike community

    Seattle’s cycling community took to social media to mourn the death of cyclist S.J. Brooks, who died after a cougar attack.

    Brooks, who used the pronoun “they,” was at the time riding with Izzy Sederbaum, who also suffered injuries but survived. After Brooks’ fatal last ride, Seattle Bike Blog collected remembrances from members of Seattle’s bike community. Many expressed shock and sadness at the loss of someone described as “inspiring” and “a positive light.”

    Brooks was the co-founder of the Seattle chapter of the Friends on Bikes organization, which is dedicated to “fostering a community for women of color who love riding bikes.” According to the Friends on Bikes website, Brooks had been riding bikes since childhood, “crushing down the Shunga Trail” in Kansas.

    It seems that was when Brooks caught the bug, a passion they brought to everything from bike commuting in Montreal to serving on the board of directors of Boston’s Bikes Not Bombs organization, which reclaims used bikes and parts and ships them to economic and youth-development organizations locally and overseas.

    A comment from Bikurious Montreal on the Friends on Bikes Instagram account recalled when Brooks first became interested in bike mechanics in Montreal: “I remember when they came into my shop years and years ago here in Montreal and they were just starting to get into bike mechanics. They got some parts and we stayed in touch and I saw their progression from basic understand to mechanic guru and enthusiast. So much love from Montreal. I am devastated to hear this.”

    Brooks was also involved in efforts to make the biking community a more welcoming and safe place for women, trans and nonbinary cyclists of color. According to an interview Tom Fucoloro conducted with Brooks for Seattle Bike Blog in 2017, Brooks had seen a lack of representation of women, trans, femme and nonbinary people of color in the community, and described mistreatment of such cyclists in bike shops.

    Brooks had planned to speak in August at the upcoming WTF Bikexplorers Summit, an event in Whitefish, Montana, intended to connect women, trans, femme and nonbinary cyclists over a weekend of rides and educational sessions.

    To promote inclusivity in the biking community, the Summit has renamed one of their scholarships to honor Brooks. The scholarship will allow five “women, trans, femme and nonbinary” cyclists to attend the conference. The scholarship was funded by a GoFundMe page that quickly surpassed its goal of $2,500, with 55 people raising $4,390 in eight days, several of them donating in honor of Brooks.

    According to a WTF Bikexplorers’ Instagram post, additional funds will go toward lowering the cost of attending the summit as well as another scholarship fund in honor of Brooks for future events.

    A GoFundMe page to assist with Sederbaum’s medical expenses has also been established.

    Beyond Brooks’ critical work for social change, they are remembered as a kind and fun-loving person. Staff from Seattle’s G&O Family Cyclery, where Brooks worked, wrote on Twitter that Brooks was “strong, smart, kind and generous. And funny as hell.”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  265. Brutusale says:

    You’re way behind the times. I was at the bike shop last getting new pedals and a guy came in to pick up his $5K bike frame. I think Boeing made it!

  266. @Buck Turgidson

    My prediction: Mike Trout drives a large SUV as his everyday ride to the ballpark, gym, and golf course.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  267. vinteuil says:
    @Jack D

    (when you pressed the flush pedal on the toilet you could see daylight – it just dumped the contents of the toilet directly onto the tracks)

    Same is true, at last check, all over Italy, Greece, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary & Poland.

    Does this come as a surprise to you?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @g2k
  268. OT, but never OT: Happy World Refugee Day everyone!

    Bing has a heat map up showing refugee migration 2000-2016.

    Is this supposed to be inspiring? Because it’s actually terrifying.

    It reminds me of the sequence at the end of Rise of the Planet of the Apes, tracking the spread of the virus by international flight routes. Or was that the Canadian flight attendant AIDS Patient Zero?

  269. Brutusale says:

    How many cyclists on the road every day compared to peds and motorists, even after how many taxpayer dollars were spent to keep these people safe from themselves and others?

    I propose a yearly 5% excise tax on bicycles to help with the building/maintenance of bike lanes. There should also be a license for cyclists to carry, and they should also have to carry insurance.

    They want equal access to the roads, so they should have legal and financial responsibility as well.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  270. anana says:

    In my jurisdiction riders are to ride single file so some places have closed that loophole

  271. @International Jew

    I think the main psychological difference is the perception of control. Whenever you come into contact with chemicals or radiation, you don’t have the power to Fantastic Voyage yourself and deflect every microscopic movement that could lead to a deadly mutation. But for every physical accident, there’s a counterfactual reality in which it didn’t happen because somebody did something differently. Estimate the number of almost-accidents you’ll have throughout your life, imagine yourself swerving out of the way just in time, and you can convince yourself it’ll never happen — because you don’t imagine yourself swerving head-on into another hazard.

  272. @Anonym

    I’m all for spending the money to expand streets as needed to provide bike lanes, parallel to automobile lanes, that are COMPLETELY SEPARATED FROM AUTOMOBILES by a high concrete barrier — where feasible without incredible eminent-domain expenditures.

    The current situation, by contrast, is unsafe and unrealistic. Bikers should not be right next to vehicles weighing 3,000 to 4,000 pounds, even with their best behavior, which is not always in evidence, as Steve points out.

  273. @gruff

    Bicyclists here in downtown Los Angeles seem to be disproportionately white and Asian. The government needs to do something when these two-wheeled travelling islands of Ice People Privilege inhibit the flow of automobile traffic, whose drivers are much more diverse.

  274. @Altai

    Great point. We need more bike lanes, for sure, but only where a high barrier completely separates the automobiles from the bikes — which is too rarely the case in the USA in my experience.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  275. @Clyde

    See your point, Clyde, but we don’t have any particular reason to think that the accident was caused by that driver using marijuana, right?

    • Replies: @Clyde
  276. @U. Ranus

    We’re not “befuddled”, we’re sick of cyclists’ unsafe bullshit. Bike lanes separated from automobile traffic would be great. That’s not what we have in most of the USA, and it’s not working all that well.

  277. @Tono Bungay

    Well, that’s true. Presumably you are thinking of the disproportionate sums that the US federal and other governments have spent on highways relative to the inadequate amount they have spent on mass transit.

  278. @Anonymous

    Los Angeles, at least during election season ;)

  279. Maus says:

    We have a saying here in our northern CA city: “Adult on a bicycle at night is probable cause for a parole or probation search.” These night-riding losers are invariably up to no good. Yet our infinitely wise city councilors eliminated multi-lane streets to create dedicated bike lanes. I’d guess they simply cannot say “no” to state and federal grant money; but they returned millions of it rather than built additional jail beds to house those parolees. Idiocy.

  280. @Altai

    That elevated bike path is fantastic. I’ve never seen one of those before.

    P.S. Here in Los Angeles, we’d be DELIGHTED to receive a flood of Eastern Europeans, Hell any kind of Europeans!

  281. @Steve Sailer

    I’d hope that Trout or anyone else with big money would not drive a vehicle that spews tailpipe pollution when they can afford not to. Someone with MLB star money, or much less, should probably buy a plug-in (all-electric) vehicle with good range.

    OT, Steve, but a friend who is a native South LA County guy (and a conservative) explained that “At the upper deck in Angel Stadium, people ask what church you’re in. At the upper deck in Dodger Stadium, they ask what gang you’re in.” Sometimes these guys are with their kids; hey, even gangbangers need a day out with the family.

    Actually, we sit Top Deck at Dodger Stadium regularly without any big problems. But yeah, there are more than one or two scary-looking guys with tattoos on their face or neck, and that is a sign of a gang member more than tattoos placed in less visible parts of the body.

    Most important: when is Mike Trout gonna drive that big SUV over here and sign with the Dodgers? ;)

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  282. TheBoom says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Bike’s are dying out as a mode of transportation in Asia, especially China. Bikes to motorcycles to cars. Now you need to have a suicidal wish to ride among drivers who believe size makes right

    • Replies: @Josep
  283. Karl says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    82 Jus Sayin > total destruction to the bike and ER visits for me

    motorists are held legally liable for hitting anything that they hit while moving towards it.

    the door guys didn’t hit you. You hit them while moving towards the door.

  284. JimB says:

    Riding a bike or running in the street is a calculated risk. Having trained for marathons and bicycle races over two decades, I’ve been hit by cars three times. Cars executing a right hand turn in front of you are the most dangerous. They often look left but hit the gas before looking in the direction they want to go. Also four way stops on hills are killers— cars and cyclists frequently roll through them to maintain speed.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  285. @Brutusale

    You’re right, cyclists should be required to carry insurance if they’re allowed on the roads / streets. Don’t know about a license requirement beyond that, though.

    The excise tax I hadn’t thought of, and might be something to try, seriously. I’d like to see tons of bike lanes — more people exercising and fewer vehicles polluting — but only if (1) bike lanes are separate from automobiles by a high barrier, and (2) cyclists pay more for the infrastructure than non-cyclists, which the excise tax would accomplish.

  286. Anonym says:
    @U. Ranus

    Situational awareness is only better if you can see behind you quickly and easily. Most people don’t ride with rear view mirrors and in the US, with helmets, but they should.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  287. anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Z Blog

    I also weight train, thus debunking Steve’s theory about ideology and training preferences.

    Do “most” and “some” mean all?

    • Replies: @The Z Blog
  288. anonymous[158] • Disclaimer says:

    You are quite the internet tough guy.

    Twinkie is worse.

  289. @Frank the Prof

    This is a good observation. In places where bikes are really used for practical commuting, the typical speed is pretty stately. Most bikers aren’t looking to get all sweaty and have a workout, plus emanate virtue waves. They’re just getting to and from places.

    Striking a balance among cars, pedestrians, and bikes on a street-by-street basis is hard in practice. It certainly isn’t always reached in cities outside the USA, although some places do it better than others. Amsterdam is good, but the Dutch have a long tradition of biking, so there’s been lots of time for an organic balance to be worked out. As is the case for so many things, it’s hard to centrally-plan and impose a simulacrum of deep-rooted order.

  290. anon[693] • Disclaimer says:

    especially if he’s about 50 lb overweight and his jersey is zipped all the way down

  291. @Pat Hannagan

    No wonder you have so many accidents in Australia. Almost everyone is driving on the wrong side of the road.

    Someone should do something about that.

  292. anon[693] • Disclaimer says:

    I kind of agree, but a BIKER bar has a bunch of motorcycles parked in front of it…

  293. Anon[168] • Disclaimer says:

    Whether you should feel bad has nothing to do with whether bikers are insufferable. You attacked him because he was an anti-Trumpist – that he was a biker was purely incidental.

    I’m going to vote, yes, you should feel bad. Sticks and stones, and all that. Also, prudence is a virtue, and you had no way of predicting that the cops would take your side. So, I’d say: sin of wrath and sin of imprudence.

  294. These a-holes are taking over rural America too. I’ve nearly plowed through a few on back roads out here in the middle of nowhere, not on purpose, just around blind curves or over steep hills. What gets me is you can’t ride a motorized ATV, 4-wheeler, dirt bike on the road but a pedal driven kamikaze death bike is cool?
    Every time I get behind them I say to myself or whoever is with me, these dudes have good lobbyists!


    I will sincerely miss cycling. It was a great method of exercise and depending on the route time of day — some routes are beautiful lakes and the coastline of CA — hard to beat. it is extremely painful to leave it behind.

  296. ohhh based on the record cyclists are not immune from the law

  297. @RichardTaylor

    …grown men to be seen in tight, shiny, spandex pants.

    Abolishing the sumptuary laws was a terrible mistake.

  298. I’m 37, and started riding a year ago in the DC suburbs. Some thoughts, in no particular order of importance:

    - I startle pedestrians when I give a verbal warning, much more frequently than drivers startle me; given this, I almost always ride in the roadway.

    - In addition to making one look like a tool, Lycra overheats the testicles; my wife and I still want kids. I prefer CopperFit sleeves on my knees and elbows, which I can wear underneath my work clothes.

    - Biking, under many circumstances, is time-competitive with driving or transit. A direct bike ride that you can start right now will almost always get you somewhere sooner, by comparison to an indirect bus or train ride that might begin in 5 or 10 minutes.
    Compared to driving, a bike won’t match freeway speeds, congested or otherwise. But on a surface street, bike riders on the shoulder never have to wait through several cycles of a red light just to reach the intersection. That makes an enormous difference; in Vienna or the District at rush hour, I regularly move faster than the cars next to me, and I’ve rode the 7.5 miles from Fairfax to Tysons Corner in 35 minutes, substantially less time than a peak-hour drive.

    - It can’t be overstated how agile a bike is in comparison to a car.

    - Personally, I don’t like protected bike lanes. I think they let bicyclists become complacent and inattentive, and they’re usually installed where they’re least needed (on city streets where traffic is travelling at slow speeds).

    - Travel lanes on most streets, at least in metro DC, are wide enough to accommodate a bicycle and a car side-by-side.

    - Obedience to traffic laws – whether by drivers or by cyclists – is no substitute for courtesy and alertness.

    - Related to the previous: I’m less of an impediment to traffic if I (illegally) sneak across an intersection while the light’s red, than if I wait for the green light along with the cars (which forces them to hesitate as they decide which way I’m going, rather than proceeding quickly).

    - As Rapparree said above, the failure of civil engineers to distinguish between streets and roads is the source of much conflict in this area. See for an elaboration.

  299. @Twinkie

    This is one of my pet peeves on the road. Cyclists seem to obey no law, but whatever suits their own convenience.

    Confession: that’s one of the reasons I like biking. Like everybody, I hate traffic, but I specially hate road regulations that force me to drive 10km if I miss a counterintuitive access road, for example. On the bicycle, I can just go back on the sidewalk, biking or dismounted, according to convenience. There not being many bikes around, it’s possible to do it safely with minimal inconveniences to pedestrians.

    Of course, safely disregarding the law needs some common sense in order not to hurt anybody or cause too much trouble. I suspect many problems come from people who do what I do but also happen to be assholes; the cultish nature of cycloactivism certainly helps engender it.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  300. dr kill says:

    Reckless cyclists? Le Tour pushes off on 07 July. I never imagined I would become a Le Tour addict, but I’m man enough to take your abuse. After all, y’all watch golf on TV. NASCAR, World Cup, Le Tour, NFL training camp. Great summer, no MLB is required.

  301. @Bill P

    In countries where cycling is actually a common means of commuting, such as The Netherlands and China, cyclists obey the law.

    I think this is most of it. Cyclists are bad behaved where there are few of them because… well, there are few of them, so they don’t cause enough trouble for the authorities to bother. If there were many of them, the problems would pile up so high that even Progressives would be pushing for some rules.

  302. Having written somewhat…intemperately above, I should explain what I mean.

    I’m a pedestrian forced to spend far more time in mid-town Manhattan than I’d ideally like. As anyone can see who comes here, these sidewalks are painfully congested. When you subtract the whole swathe of the sidewalk on the building side that’s crammed with everything from fruit and vegetable stands, outdoor restaurant seating, advertisements, open cellar doors, and people standing around smoking, and on the street side the swathe that’s filled with trees, phone booths, parked bicycles, and trash cans, all that’s left in the middle is an absurdly narrow strip of sidewalk down which dozens of people are trying to walk, in both directions, all at once, contending with the very slow, the people who walk erratically because they’re writing text messages while walking, and the groups who find it appropriate to stand around in the middle of such a sidewalk as if they were in a living room. And don’t get me started of being stuck behind someone who’s smoking in such a crowd in the wind is against us.

    Now this is not new, but the edge of the street, what’s now the infernal ‘bike lane’, used to be a much-valued relief against all this pressure—anyone who didn’t move like a snail, actually had somewhere to go, and didn’t want to take two hours to get there, walked in the street instead of the sidewalk. About twenty years ago my Sunday routine typically took me up Fifth Avenue from Washington Square up almost to Central Park. It was always congested (although not, perhaps, so bad as 8th or 9th avenues) but in the weeks leading up to and after Christmas (oh, excuse me, I mean the ‘holiday season’) 5th Ave became essentially unwalkable and I used to walk the entire way in the street.

    What do we have now? The spectacle of dozens of people battling to walk along the sort of sidewalk I described above, while right next to it a wide open strip of street is virtually empty for a relatively small handful of people riding bikes.

    In forty-five years of life I’ve almost never had a problem with a driver (except for the highly unprofessional drivers of certain private bus companies) but bike-riders are rude and reckless all the time; on a daily basis one sees them running red lights and nearly knocking pedestrians down, usually by turning a corner at lightning speeds while pedestrians are trying to cross the street on their light.

    Steve mentions a bike lane on the lake in Chicago. The New York equivalents are the bike paths in Central Park and along the whole Hudson River. That’s a good idea. But people riding bikes in midtown Manhattan are just being stupid. We already have four good ways to get around this town: bus, subway, taxi, and foot. Choose one of them and save the bike for Central Park.

    Oh and one more thing: I responded so emphatically to this article because Sailer hits the nail on the head when he describes bike-riders as the fair-haired darlings of the trendy. Recently I saw—I regret to say I cannot remember where, or by whom—an article about quality of life and urban planning, On nearly every issue raised the article was intelligently critical and balanced, but bike lanes? There all critical intelligence went out the window, it was just a wonderful thing that we now had bike lanes, full stop. Years ago I passed a trendy, aggressively ‘green’ bakery that promised a 10% discount to anyone coming in with a bicycle or a skate board. I wondered: as opposed to those of us who befoul the environment by walking???

  303. @vinteuil

    Seems like Cyclists advocates for the first roads to be paved in the USA.

    The problem in the USA is that road engineers have designed roads to be very safe for exactly one customer, the auto driver (this seems to be a good idea when 50k people die every year in crashes.) so you’re right that roads have been designed exclusively for cars, to the exclusion of all the rest of the public. The all-knowing government bureaucrat is rightly under suspicion in most cases. You sure you want to defend him here?

  304. @Anon

    You raise an interesting etymological question: Does anyone know why bicyclists are mostly called “cyclists” but motorcyclists “bikers?” Are the more brief, informal versions similarly applied in other languages? (Dieter?)

    I see no reason the lingo wouldn’t have as easily gone the other way, or that either term would be used equally commonly for both….

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  305. @vinteuil

    I remember seeing that in Europe and yeah, it was pretty surprising.

  306. @Rapparee

    A Chuck Marohn fan. Well stated, sir.

  307. Michelle says:

    I recently watched a British TV series on Netflix . It concerned the first hour of care after catastrophic accidents. Many catastrophic accidents are accidents incurred whilst bicycling. Shattered pelvises! Scary stuff. No thanks! The same goes for motorcycle accidents. Gruesome injuries abound. More men are killed each year than were killed in the Iraq war.

  308. Pericles says:

    Thing is, Trout is not a home run monster like Judge or Stanton. He just seems to be great at everything.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  309. Pericles says:

    Western nations should welcome Poles precisely because the Poles/Hungarians are so nationalistic and ethnocentric. Ie, the traits that make one bad guests and immigrants.

    Though on the other hand they’re on the whole not violent entitled welfare-sucking rapist scum who in a just world would dance their last jig this very afternoon.

  310. Roger says: • Website

    Wow, this post sure triggered a lot of bicyclist-haters. Lighten up, guys. The bicyclists have a right to use the road also.

  311. Pericles says:

    While at university, I used to bike from and to classes, which worked well in the soporific town where it happened (except winters were sometimes tough). I still did some dumb things, embarrassing in retrospect but at least no harm done. Biking all the time was pretty great exercise at least.

    One friend while biking in the same town hit an old man, entirely by accident of course, and was nearly taken to court by his irate relatives. Another friend, an excellent academic who later turned out to be in the top ten of his profession in Sweden, became a biking enthusiast and one time hit a suddenly appearing car and flew across the hood into oncoming traffic, but escaped with just a concussion. A third friend while biking was cut off by a taxi, chased it down in slow city traffic and tried to smack the trunk as punishment for its impudence, but missed and instead tumbled to the street among the cars. He wasn’t run over though.

    None of us have had any car accidents that I know of. So it indeed seems more dangerous.

    While walking in Stockholm, I have several times nearly been hit by bikes on the sidewalk. (I assume to some it still seems too dangerous to ride in the street like they should.) Too many riders seem lazy (e.g., running red lights rather than stopping) and inattentive (e.g., chattering on the phone while biking).

  312. Anonymous[506] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stan Adams

    Right , for Osterreich.

    Which means, “Realm of the Blenders and Other Kitchen Appliances”.

  313. Two of those guys lifting each other’s bikes to feel for grams of weight difference.

  314. @Dieter Kief

    Point taken. And I envy you your itineraries!

    Still, I think holy cycling’s implicit alliance with evil nature-killing industrial and transportation infrastructure is insufficiently acknowledged.

    (Personally, though I admire the quaintness and historical quality of Paris’s remaining cobblestone roads, I curse them every time I am forced to ride on them. Especially on a rainy day.)

    On a related note, I will argue that bicycles are way too industrial, polluting and noisy. The bicycle-industrial complex keeps people from realizing the true morally worthy transportation alternative is…

    the unicycle!

    Fight bike privilege! One wheel is all you need.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  315. g2k says:

    Same is true in the UK, at least for the stock that’s more than about 20 years old. When trains park up at terminus stations, the toilets are always over the same spot, so you can literally see dung heaps when you walk down the a platform without a train parked. Obviously people aren’t supposed to flush such toilets at stations, but that doesn’t stop them.

    • Replies: @Anon
  316. @Gimeiyo

    Wash dc and environs have no bike lane system, just stretches of trails here and there in md and n va. These stretches end in high density urban areas and bikes then blend w auto traffic. Trails are artifacts from decades ago and woefully inadequate for large metro area. Cyclists tend to be too aggressive/self-centered & righteous and generally a pain in the arse. Rode these trails/roads many times, finally gave up bc of the accidents waiting to happen. Not enough room on most streets for bikes but progressives love them some bicycles and they spray paint bike path signs all over city streets where there is barely room for 2 cars.

  317. g2k says:

    Traffic lights are a nuisance that in a lot of cases are unnecessary; flasing, illuminated billboards for libertarianism. Hours spent sitting in a car, waiting for these to change at otherwise empty junctions makes running through them on a push-bike satisfying as hell. No excuse for being an ass about it though, treat them like a give way sign.

    At least we have roundabouts in the UK, so they’re not quite as prolific as in the states. Modern road planners seem to love then though, so that might be about to change.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  318. @U. Ranus

    “the cyclist has *vastly* better situational awareness”

    Not bent over the handlebars, they don’t. The root of the whole problem is using racing bikes to commute – the posture of a racing cyclist is all wrong for city commuting.

  319. @Pericles

    Trout does things like when sliding head first, he feints with one hand and then reaches around the fielder to grab the base with the other hand.

    Of course, last year he got hurt for a month or two sliding head first. And prime age Trout is worth about two wins per month, so getting hurt sliding head first can be a big price to pay for the Angels.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    , @Brutusale
  320. Trout does things like when sliding head first, he feints with one hand and then reaches around the fielder to grab the base with the other hand.

    Yes, he has that extra level of uncanny situational awareness and ability to execute that only a very few possess, even at the major league level. Javier Baez, the Cubs’ second baseman, also has it; he regularly makes hyper-aware, you-can-only-appreciate-them-in-slow-mo plays out in the field. He’s not the hitter Trout is, though.

  321. Pericles says:
    @Steve Sailer

    getting hurt sliding head first can be a big price to pay for the Angels.

    It was Altuve’s opportunity though. Altuve seems a bit like (forgive me, Jose) Trout’s mini-me. He’s relentless at improving, improving, always improving, seems to have no real weaknesses, and seldom if ever has a bad night. Fortunately for him, he also plays on a team with top-notch leadership.

    But if Trout had stayed uninjured, Altuve likely still wouldn’t be the MVP.

  322. @Chris Renner

    Stick to the railroad path out to Berryville and stay off the fuckin’ highways, what is the matter with you? How is a bicycle on the roads in Northern Virginia any different than idiots who run with the bulls? Bicycles are a nuisance. Man up, buy a motorcycle and quit with the bicycles.

  323. @Anonym

    That is a potential safety improvement in bicycling since the 1970s: these days a few people wear bike helmets with a rear view mirror.

  324. @JimB

    “Cars executing a right hand turn in front of you are the most dangerous. They often look left but hit the gas before looking in the direction they want to go.”

    When walking in this situation, I often raise my arm and point at the driver’s eyes. That often catches the driver’s attention out of the corner of his eye. I suspect the human brain is wired to notice what could be a threatening gesture.

  325. @RadicalCenter

    Trout was in a car crash in 2016. He was driving a black Mercedes sedan.

  326. @RadicalCenter

    Much of the 18 mile Chicago lakefront dedicated bikepath is built on landfill that was added after the street grid. So, it was fairly easy to say: Hey, you know what we forgot in 1872 or whenever, was a bikepath. Let’s add one on the new landfill!

    Most other places, it’s a pain to retrofit a truly safe bikepath. One way to do it is to ban parking on the street, freeing up enough street width for a protected bike lane with a curb to keep cars out. But cyclists still have to deal with driveways and intersections.

  327. Unzerker says:

    In Copenhagen and Amsterdam the separation between the bike lanes and car lane is more complete, often with a little raised divider, it’s hard to stray from one to another.

    This might be true to day, but this wasn’t the case in the past. I remember a time when there wasn’t even a painted division on the road.

    The main difference between both the Netherlands and Denmark other places is that the car drivers are bicyclists themselves. These car drivers understand how it is to ride a bicycle and thus aren’t frothing at the mouth when they see one, like some in this thread are.

  328. @Achmed E. Newman

    In the Netherlands, the official Driver’s Ed teaches you to only open the driver’s side door with your right hand (so your head is turned around and your peripheral vision can pick up an oncoming cyclist).

    That’s a great idea.

    My father drove from 1933 to 2011, so assuming his 78 years is about the max, we should be able to make the roads safer for cyclists by 2096.

    • Replies: @Unzerker
    , @res
  329. @Intellectual Pariah

    I was impressed by Turkish country drivers. There’s a lot of variation in maximum speed on winding Turkish hill country roads, from Mercedes S Class to tractors pulling hay wagons. But the slower vehicles holding up a line of faster vehicles typically pull over at the first reasonable pullout and let everybody else pass.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  330. @Jonathan Mason

    As a driver, I used to be annoyed by wrong-way riders myself, but then I remembered my cycling days and decided it made sense, as long as you stayed in the far-right of the lane (relative to the flow of traffic). At least by going into traffic, you can see what the other cars are up to, instead of wondering what’s going on behind you (or turning your head around every few seconds and taking your eyes off the road).

    Even better — and maybe Steve knows of some relevant studies — you might be able to influence the drivers’ behavior by making eye contact or smiling at them.


  331. Unzerker says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I didn’t learn to use my right hand, but you ALWAYS had to check for cyclists when opening your door.
    The same thing applies when making a right turn. You have to check your right wing mirror before making the turn and if possible close the gap with the curb first, so no cyclist can sneak through.

    And again, all drivers in the Netherlands are cyclists themselves. This helps a lot.

  332. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:

    This sounds like a problem that can be solved, any one of several ways.

    • Replies: @g2k
  333. Pericles says:
    @Intellectual Pariah

    That young woman needed one or more blasts from the 46115 Extreme Train Horn Kit, less than $500 it seems. To get her attention.

  334. anonymous[362] • Disclaimer says:

    … But to live outside the law, you must be honest — Tammy Wynette

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  335. @Rod1963

    With all respect, Rod, cause I do agree with almost all your comments, I don’t think you get it. There are people bitching, right above here in the comments, that bicyclists are mixing it up with the cars on the roads. Hey, how far out do you think a car door (transverse projection) comes out into the road, Rod? With a 3″ margin, you’re talking close to 3′. I’d rather not mix it up with the cars (see my very 1st comment above), but if it’s a parked car (among too many to discern which have people inside) versus looking back at a driver 20′ behind me, and sliding temporarily over to the left, I’m coming left.

    The supposed “bike bath” is 2 1/2 to 3 ‘ wide from the curb, but if it’s one of those with a parking lane outside it, then you’ve got 0 leeway. Oh, sometimes cars are parallel parking. It’s pretty hard to figure which side to go on, but I opt for inside the parking car (toward the road center) due to fear of getting jammed in.

    If that’s not working out well, then it’s on to the sidewalk where I can piss off more people – it’s all unintentional, but I’m gonna get where I’m going, one way or another. No, traffic laws mean jack-all to me when I’m on a bike. It’s safety first – for me. The cars will be alright.

  336. @Rapparee

    Even the average used car is creeping up toward $20,000 in price.

    Oh, come on! Maybe you need something to impress the ladies, but there are plenty of very decent vehicles you can get for under $6,000. I have a friend whose car budget was <$1500! Needless to say, at that point, 150,000 miles is considered "low mileage" and one has to be ready to do some work.

    I like your point on "green friendliness", Rapparee!

    BTW, for everyone reading, I'm also not one of the Spandex/Lycra wearing crowd. I just get on the bike to get somewhere quick, with some aerobic exercise thrown in to boot. That's all, and it doesn't need to be anyone else's business how I ride – that includes Johnny Law.

  337. @CCZ

    It helps not to be dealing drugs from your backpack as you bike around. I’ve been stopped by a cop while on my bicycle for suspicion of JUST THAT. No, I just wore the backpack to carry books and tools and stuff.

    It was one of my approaching-3-digit number of times being pulled over on various motor and non-motorized vehicles over the years. It went very well, as the cop treated me as a human being and vice versa. He was not a militarized goon, just a plainclothes cop who said they were looking for some drug dealer who was on a bike with a backpack. It went very much like the stops described herein.

  338. Ed says:

    It’s getting really bad in DC. They ride on sidewalks almost got hit by one today.

  339. res says:
    @Intellectual Pariah

    That sounds like a good approach as long as there is a safe place to pull off. A few weeks ago I was riding on a narrow stretch of country road and had about five cars stacked up behind me (I was as far to the right as possible, but the road was just too narrow and curved to pass and there was an unusual burst of traffic on a relatively quiet road). I just pulled off into a driveway on the right and let them pass. I think everyone (including me) was much happier after that ; )

    Waving cars around to pass when sightlines permit can also work well.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  340. @Reactionary Utopian

    I agree that the noise from a Harley is especially obnoxious, but it can also save your ass if you ride a motorcyle. I mostly rode motorcycles in town – also with nary a wreck – but, I took a 2-day trip one time on a big Harley (Dyna-glide?) to repo it for someone. I had two incidents where I had to quickly pull out the clutch and rev it up LOUD to get some idiot to realize that he was about to steer into me. I’m pretty sure your radio volume could be at 11, and you’d still hear the bike.

    It is kind of fun to scare the bejesus out of people with a Harley too, but that is only a secondary purpose.

  341. res says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I love nuggets like this. Thanks, Steve. That actually has a name in some places: the “Dutch Reach.”

    And even a website:

  342. JMcG says:
    @Steve Sailer

    You just made me realize that I can and do happily wait behind a slow moving tractor/bailer combo or Amish wagon for great lengths of time with no irritation at all. I mean absolutely none. The amateur pelotons taking up the road though? Not the same effect. I wonder why that would be

  343. @European-American

    Wow, a few months of doing this 2 or 3 times a week, and that rear end (do unicycles even have a rear end?) will be in fine, fine shape! Does she yodel too? (If so, when?)

    • Replies: @European-American
  344. @Jim Christian

    So what’s the answer to cyclists? Killing them all? Followed by Wally posting relentlessly about how it never happened? :)

  345. @g2k

    Since i have a ending issue i have to walk lightly on this subject. They are so by necessity. aside from helmet and clothing, such as gloves and innovations that might be classified as pads for knees and elbows and goggles, it’s the cyclist’s 200 lbs including 23 lbs of chromium, steel, or less with carbon to 3000 lbs (1.5 tons) of metal cruising on four wheels to the one or two a cyclists uses. Unicyclists are not uncommon in my area. Defensive riding is mandatory for the cyclist.

    Even a minor collision could be deadly for the cyclist and not leave a scratch on an automobile. So as offensive as some cyclists may appear, it’s really about sending a message to acknowledge that the steel tonnage is not the only one traveler on the road. It took me a while to figure out that people in cars are simply oblivious. And I would be more sensitive to the complaints if not for one simple fact, they are just as oblivious to pedestrians.

    I am a conservative as they come, and I loved riding: whether on my trainer, a lake circuit or roadways, especially the 101 built with cyclists in mind in my opinion, anyone who has made such trips will confirm and yet despite the lanes and wide roadway, a cyclists get sideswiped resulting in injury and death.

  346. @Christian Moon

    The name? Yes. The Terror of the Umbrian, the Terror of the Gaul.

  347. @Autochthon

    Does anyone know why bicyclists are mostly called “cyclists” but motorcyclists “bikers?”

    Bikers got first choice and they didn’t want to sound like fags.

  348. @res

    Many of the major roads outside the big cities in Alaska are just two lane. There are signs about every 10 miles telling the slow poke sight seeers to pull over into the designated turn outs and let the other traffic go on by.

  349. anon[227] • Disclaimer says:

    He’s King Larp ‘round these parts.

    It was one of a very few times I wanted to give chase on the road and dole out a savage beating.

    A little spergtastic too.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  350. @Chris Renner

    That’s an interesting take (the stroads) that I had not heard before and at first blush it’s not a bad analysis. I don’t know how the old world does it but around here city planners (and shop keepers) absolutely love the stroad, and they try to shove all the shops on the main thoroughfare.

    I have heard about rumors in the past and I think it’s still going on, the store owners will also pay to have the traffic FUBAR’ed right in front of their store on purpose because they want everyone to stop right in front and think about going in.

    On the other end, there has been a trend around where I live of suburbs building green medians with planter boxes and trees between the oncoming lanes of road, which is very nice aesthetically but terrible for transit. Usually everyone complains to high heaven until they are removed at even further expense because you can’t make get to anything on the left side of the road without passing it by and banging a u-turn down the block or turning in someone elses parking lot.

    If they build main roads for traffic and put scenic streets of shopping districts off on side streets it would probably work much better. But then the shop owners will not have as high visibility with all that traffic passing right by their store, so they will be pissed.

    Back in the day when they were building the interstates and roads there was a lot of bribery by shopkeepers involved in getting the main transit roads to run right past their establishments.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  351. g2k says:

    It kind of is being solved. Trains without tanks are bring phased out and catch pans installed on the tracks, but it’s so strange to realise that this is happening in 2018. Part of the problem is that the UK rail system has such sclerotic bureaucracy that any kind of change takes years to get approval.

  352. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian

    If you ever come to San Francisco don’t try to drive just use Uber cabs or even the bus. It’s just an aggressive arrogant faggy thing.

    I got stopped by a cop once getting ready to make a right turn. He told me my car wasn’t close enough to the curb.

    Huh? He explained the proper procedure to make a right turn in a bike lane in bike faggot heaven San Francisco.

    At least 20 feet from the intersection get as close as possible to the curb, like the wheels touching the curb. Then come to a complete stop. Then turn your head completely around and see if a cyclist is behind you.

    Creep slowly to the intersection keeping as close to the curb as possible. Then again come to a complete stop and turn around and look behind you.
    Then you may make the turn.

    He explained that cyclists like to squiggle between the curb and cars making right turns. Cars in the cross street coming from the left can’t see them.

    Then they charge out into the intersection hoping to get hit. The driver’s insurance goes up. A year or so later the cyclist gets a nice new bike and a couple thousand

    And they get to demonstrate and carry on about more privileged for cyclists.
    In SF they are mostly gay. Now that they have all their rights including marriage and bathrooms they keep pressing for more and more bike privileges.

    They can’t just ride their bikes and get along with cars and pedestrians. Mexicans ride bikes to work in ordinary clothes and obey the rules of the road.

    Maybe Bike Rights and Privilege is because the gays need to invent new causes all the time. Maybe it’s because affirmative action affects gay men as badly as hetero men and their last frontier is bike rights.

    And those outfits. Gag. I don’t think male balllet dancers are all gay, but I do think male bike riders are gay. Sorry guys.

    At least they stay off the freeways.

    • Agree: Jim Christian
  353. @Achmed E. Newman

    Gracie Cole, née Sorbello, is awesome.

    The summer after graduating from Duke in 2006, she became the first woman to ride a unicycle across the United States, and had caught the adventure “bug.” After obtaining her M.S. from Ohio University in 2009, she set out to become the first person to unicycle the world’s longest unpaved cycling route, 2,700 miles along the Continental Divide from Canada to Mexico. Between the two trips, Gracie raised over $20,000 for The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society, in honor of her uncle battling blood cancer.

    In 2010, less than a year after finishing the second unicycle journey, Gracie took on a different endurance challenge: her very first triathlon. … In the process of training for the triathlon, Gracie fell in love with distance running and went on to place 2nd in her second marathon, in Antarctica. She has lived and worked seasonally in Antarctica for several years, and completed multiple 50-mile ultramarathons in 2013 between Antarctic stints.

    Gracie is now blessed to live with her incredible husband, Kevin Cole, and Alaskan Malamute, Mack, in Buena Vista, Colorado. There, she continues to run long distances with her dog and packs her schedule with playing roller derby, planning and embarking on expeditions, playing music, and sewing and crocheting custom products.

  354. Ak says:

    It’s impossible to overstate how true this is and how overdue the good decent people of this country are in organizing to protect pedestrians from the sick and arrogant bicyclist menace. In New York City. where cyclists are at their most criminal and arrogant, it may be too late but the rest of the country owe it to their children to organize against the sick cyclist tyranny while they still can.

  355. @Lars Porsena

    The 1980 Zemeckis comedy movie “Used Cars” centers on local political shenanigans to get the upcoming freeway offramp built to dump commuters off right in front of the bad guy’s used car lot.

  356. Anonym says:

    Come on. If there is no one there at an intersection with clear views around, you would insist the cyclist stops?

  357. Clyde says:

    Not leaving enough clearance….My only thought was due to drinking early in the day. This took place sometime after 11Am on a weekday. You are correct.

  358. @Jack D

    Amtrak did the same thing 50 years ago

  359. Brutusale says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Last week a Boston writer opined that if Mookie Betts slides head first again he should be benched for the rest of the game. I never understood sliding head first; shortstops and second basemen should always live in fear!

  360. Twinkie says:

    Believe what you will.

    I bet, though, if I provided the class time and address of the Judo school where I train, I expect none of the online braves on this blog to show up. There are several Asian guys of my size and approximate age there (all high-level black belts), and all of us are capable of dropping just about everyone here on his head and strangle him silly.

    People with combat training can tell from what I write what kind of skills and experiences I have. The kind of things I know and write of are not gleaned readily from books or videos – they require extensive training and experiences in the real thing. Those are what enable one to sift the wheat from the chaff on the internet.

    • Replies: @anon
  361. Twinkie says:

    I’m sure you all think that funny!

    I am not inherently anti-cyclist.

    My wife comes from a big cycling family. When she was young, she and her family did bike-across-America twice and probably 20+ Ragbrai’s. My wife has a very early steel-framed Colnago built by the man himself (which always garners multiple offers of a princely sum at the local bike shop whenever we bring it there).

    Alas, my wife and most of her family no longer participate much. They don’t like the current crop of hipster cyclists.

    Personally, I don’t care either way. I just want them to be considerate. I am sure most are, but I just see too many – day in and day out – who are complete jerks.

    And, yes, I agree, there are many dangerous drivers who shouldn’t be on the road. But at least they go through driver’s ed and can be sanctioned when caught driving dangerously.

  362. The Z Blog says: • Website

    Have you always lacked the ability to comprehend humor? Or, did the same brain injury that made you slow witted rob you of your sense of humor?

    • Replies: @anon
  363. Anonymous[352] • Disclaimer says:

    Regarding Critical Mass, what’s the legality of using force to unblock an illegally blocked road?

  364. anon[108] • Disclaimer says:

    I bet, though, if I provided the class time and address of the Judo school where I train, I expect none of the online braves on this blog to show up.

    Ok., I’ll have a go. What’s the time and address?

    There are several Asian guys of my size and approximate age there (all high-level black belts), and all of us are capable of dropping just about everyone here on his head and strangle him silly.


    People with combat training can tell from what I write what kind of skills and experiences I have. The kind of things I know and write of are not gleaned readily from books or videos – they require extensive training and experiences in the real thing. Those are what enable one to sift the wheat from the chaff on the internet.

    Time and address phony-man, time and address.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  365. anon[108] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Z Blog

    Oh, you were trying to be funny! You failed.

  366. Twinkie says:

    Give me your email address.

  367. Josep says:

    Can you tell us the situation in Japan and Singapore? Thanks.

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