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From The Atlantic:

The Dilemma of Teaching Race in High-School Biology

The way science classes talk about—or gloss over—the science of human difference could risk reinforcing students’ misperceptions.

MICHAEL SCHULSON UNDARK

Last spring, Paul Strode gave an unusual survey to his advanced biology students at Fairview High School in Boulder, Colorado. The first five questions were:

Define as best you can: What is a racial group?

A racial group is an extended family that has a higher than random level of coherence and continuity due to some degree of endogamy.

Define as best you can: What is an ethnic group?

An ethnic group is a population united by some cultural characteristics that are typically passed down within genetic families but that don’t have to be (e.g., language, religion, cuisine, attitudes, cultural heroes, etc.) For example, a child conceived by two Koreans who is adopted by a Mormon family in Provo might be racially Korean and ethnically Mormon.

Define as best you can: What is meant by the term genetic ancestry?

Who your biological ancestors were and what genes they have passed down to you. (The two questions overlap but aren’t identical). In contrast, one’s adoptive ancestors would not provide one’s genetic ancestry.

In general, students should be encouraged to think about nature and nurture from the perspective of adoption and twin studies. Most people find these pretty interesting and they open up a world of thought more sophisticated than was ever dreamt of in the philosophy of social constructionists.

True or False: There is too much overlap between racial groups to use a single biological trait (like skin color) to distinguish one racial group from another.

Often true, but it can be false in some situations: e.g., Pygmies and Dinkas can be distinguished based on average height, with basically no healthy 100% Dinkas being shorter than any 100% Pygmies.

True or False: When several traits are combined they can be used to distinguish one racial group from another.

True. We do it all the time: forensic anthropologists who tell cops the race and sex of the skeleton found in a shallow grave from bone measurements, DNA companies, etc. There will always be complex and difficult examples, of course, but in general it works out good enough for government work for the purposes of affirmative action etc.

The next day, Strode showed his students—all seniors—their aggregated results. On some questions, the students were mostly in agreement. More than 80 percent of them, for example, correctly marked Question 4 as “True.” But other topics were muddier, and on several questions—including number five—the students split nearly 50-50. “They’re guessing,” Strode says. (For the record, the answer he says he was looking for on number five was “False.”)

Strode’s exercise is an anomaly. Most American biology textbooks and curricula don’t discuss race at all — nor do they grapple with the biology of sexual orientation or gender, for that matter. To some, these omissions seem appropriate. Early 20th-century biology textbooks, after all, were replete with ignorant racial and gender stereotyping and classifications purporting to be scientific—and some even extolled the virtues of racial purity. It would be hard to find such discussions in today’s biology classrooms and supporting materials. …

Analyzing texts from the post-WWII era, Morning says, it is clear that writers wanted to “really teach students that there’s this theory of superior races or master races, and so forth and so on. So they really took as their charge the responsibility of counteracting World War II Nazi ideology around race. They went all-in.”

But starting around the 1960s, Morning’s research suggests, American science-textbook writers began talking less about issues like race—though that’s not to say that subjects related to human difference don’t come up. Textbooks today go in-depth on human evolution, genetic diversity, and sex. They’re just unlikely to explicitly acknowledge that these biological experiences can intersect with politics and identities.

When mentions of racial categories do crop up, Morning and other scholars point out, they seem to focus on physiological difference—on the genetics of human skin color, for example, or on certain genetic disorders, like sickle-cell anemia, that are often associated with particular racial groups. These are topics, Morning and other scholars argue, that without proper context may actually reinforce the misperception that race has deep biological roots.

… The worry is that, by pairing a biological category (like sickle cell) with a social construction (like race), teachers inadvertently push students to think of race as a deep biological fact, not a social construct.

Best to just keep your students ignorant or they might start noticing.

… The National Science Foundation recently gave him and a collaborator a $900,000 grant for “exploring how knowledge of genetic variation and causation affects racial bias among adolescents.” When he recently put out a call for high-school classrooms to take part in an upcoming study, around 150 teachers asked to be involved. “People want to do it,” he says. “But they just don’t know how to do it.” …

Ken Miller, a biology professor at Brown University and the co-author, with Joseph Levine, of Prentice Hall’s biology textbook line, similarly said that the topic of race is not even mentioned in their textbook. “We have a very extensive section on human evolution and human origins,” he said. “We talk about the out-of-Africa model for the diversification of the human species … But we do not specifically go into anything that could be recognized as race.” …

That’s especially pressing, she argues, at a time when personal genetic testing and other technological developments are leading to fresh conversations about genetics and ancestry. “There has been this return to claims about biology and race that somebody has to address,” she said. “And so if people like Ken Miller aren’t doing it, that’s a real loss, I think.”

For teachers hoping to tackle these topics, some curricular resources do exist. Both the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the American Anthropological Association have developed teaching guides for talking about race in the science classroom. And other instructors are crafting materials on their own. When she first started teaching undergraduates, Amelia Hubbard would slip a slide into her lectures explaining to students that race is a social construction, not a biological category.

As far as I can tell, that’s about all they’ve got in their toolkit: just keep repeating “race is a social construction, not a biological category.”

 
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  1. If this magazine is Undark, Steve would have to be double plus undark.

  2. A racial group is an extended family that has [-a] higher than random levels of coherence and continuity due to some degree of endogamy.

    This is good. What science has been waiting for.

    A second proposition: Such extended families developed in geographic homelands, with extra-familiar mixing* occurring throughout human history and an increased phase of mixing across distances beginning around 6,ooo BP.

    *Extra-familiar mixing typically refers to one racial group’s y-chromosome carriers being replaced with another racial group’s y-chromosome carriers.

    • Replies: @NickG

    *Extra-familiar mixing typically refers to one racial group’s y-chromosome carriers being replaced with another racial group’s y-chromosome carriers.

     

    That is to say history is replete with instances where invaders kill the men and take the women as war booty.
  3. Anonymous[208] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/09/16/anne-hathaway-calls-for-destruction-of-the-myth-of-whiteness/

    Actress Anne Hathaway said that it was time to destroy the “myth” of “whiteness” during a speech at the Human Rights Campaign annual dinner Saturday.

    The New York Post reports that Anne Hathaway received the “National Equality Award” and during her speech said, “I think I’m probably walking around like most people right now. I’m pretty shell shocked by what I see every day, what I hear everyday. And I really don’t like to admit this, but I get scared.”

    … Hathaway reportedly said that “with the exception of being a cisgender male, everything about how I was born has put me at the current center of a damaging and widely-accepted myth,” continuing, “that myth is that gayness orbits around straightness, transgender orbits around cisgender, and that all races orbit around whiteness.”

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    There is no end to the ways in which White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the White man.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    all races orbit around whiteness.

    Immigration preferences seem to indicate that that's the case.
    , @NickG
    all races orbit around whiteness.

    Anne Hathaway may be a boilerplate PC luvvie and as mad as a hatter but she's not wrong on that one.

    , @fish

    "Has been actress repeats party line......now here's Bob with the weather."

     

    Who gives a fuck what Anne Hathaway thinks?
    , @The preferred nomenclature is...
    Well she is approaching the age where the mother parts must have started. So she has to up the SJW bulls--t to stay relevant.
    , @Lurker
    Presumably she's be declining any further acting roles to make way for black, one legged trannies to have their rightful place in the spotlight?
  4. Well given that Miller-Levine is currently the canonical HS bio text and it omits race, it’s pretty easy for the toolkit to say nothing but “race is not a biological category.” What’s going to convince them otherwise? Apparently no scientist.

  5. ‘As far as I can tell, that’s about all they’ve got in their toolkit: just keep repeating “race is a social construction, not a biological category.”’

    It’s stunning that people can actually profess to believe that. Conceivably, there isn’t a perfectly satisfactory definition for ‘race.’

    There isn’t a perfectly satisfactory definition for ‘love.’ It doesn’t follow that it doesn’t exist.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    “As far as I can tell, that’s about all they’ve got in their toolkit: just keep repeating “race is a social construction, not a biological category.”’

    It’s stunning that people can actually profess to believe that.
     

    I have an intelligent, fairly conservative friend who insists that race is a social construct. He believes that because many people are not 100% one race, it is proof that race doesn’t exist.

    Can anyone here suggest a book I could recommend to him in order to dispel his belief about race? He’s quite an avid reader. Thanks.

  6. I wonder why this kind of reasoning doesn’t get applied to other parts of the life sciences?

    True or false: there is too much variation between genomes of somatic cells of different individuals to distinguish a normal cell from a cancer cell.

    E. coil strain pathogenicity is a social construction, not a meaningful biological category.

    There is no reason to believe that finches on different islands in the Galapagos vary in any systematic way in their ability to eat different kinds of foods.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    There is still controversy over whether dogs, coyotes and wolves are one species or three species, so Species Does Not Exist.
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    E. coil strain pathogenicity is a social construction, not a meaningful biological category.
     
    Yeah, you keep telling yourself that as you eat your Chipotle bowl. It tastes a lot better if you do.
  7. Race isn’t real but you want it to be real so you believe it’s real.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Africa is a shithole, but you want it not to be, so you say it isn't a shithole.
    , @JMcG
    Race is real, but you don’t want it to be, but you know it’s real anyway.
    , @Lummard
    Differences of traits across different populations of humans are real, closely related to ancestry, and associate to form some pretty well-defined clusters (with some degree of overlapping of course). You can call those clusters "sqwyjiia" instead of "races" if you want, but you cannot deny their existence.
    , @Brutusale
    A trip this past weekend to the newly-opened liquor superstore nearby only reinforced every stereotype I've ever held.

    Asians will stand and blankly stare at the locked single malt scotch case as if they can remove a bottle with telekinesis.

    Every Indian I saw with a store employee didn't seem to understand the concept of a store never having a "sale" because the prices were already as low as possible.

    90% of the Hennessey cognac is bought by blacks and is almost always purchased with some sort of mixer. Note: every single bottle of Hennessey, even the $14.99 size, is in a locked case.

    Finally, almost every expensive wine or spirit I tasted was equaled or bettered by a far less expensive brand.

    My girlfriend is happy I've found something to do while she shops: notice.
  8. These “science teachers” are giving the term “mad scientist” a whole new meaning.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8gg7aldy3k
  9. Race is a social construction, until you need a bone marrow transplant.

  10. @415 reasons
    I wonder why this kind of reasoning doesn’t get applied to other parts of the life sciences?

    True or false: there is too much variation between genomes of somatic cells of different individuals to distinguish a normal cell from a cancer cell.

    E. coil strain pathogenicity is a social construction, not a meaningful biological category.

    There is no reason to believe that finches on different islands in the Galapagos vary in any systematic way in their ability to eat different kinds of foods.

    There is still controversy over whether dogs, coyotes and wolves are one species or three species, so Species Does Not Exist.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    Commenter bgates nailed this one:

    March 31, 2018 at 4:46 am GMT

    Boston’s high temp in 2017: 95F; low: 12F; a difference of 83F.
    Orlando’s high and low temps in 2017: 96F and 35F, a difference of 61F.

    Current temperatures are 46F and 71F, a difference of only 25 degrees. Therefore climate doesn’t exist any more than race does.

    • LOL: International Jew
     

    , @International Jew
    Commenter bgates nailed this one:

    bgates says:
    March 31, 2018 at 4:46 am GMT

    Boston’s high temp in 2017: 95F; low: 12F; a difference of 83F.
    Orlando’s high and low temps in 2017: 96F and 35F, a difference of 61F.

    Current temperatures are 46F and 71F, a difference of only 25 degrees. Therefore climate doesn’t exist any more than race does.

    • LOL: International Jew
     
    , @U-Bahn
    Dogs diverged from wolves millennia ago.
    See for reference
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26004765
    ...Ancient wolf genome reveals an early divergence of domestic dog ... (1) Department of Genetics, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA 02115...
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140116190137.htm
    ...Dogs and wolves evolved from a common ancestor between 9000 and 34000 ... jackal to serve as an "outgroup" representing earlier divergence. ... "We also found evidence for genetic exchange between wolves and jackals...
  11. Judging from Steve’s answers, it looks like he might need a little re-education at Fairview High, premier training ground for future Social Justice Warriors.

    Not sure how the food is, but there’s a reason they call it Fairview:

  12. My kids recently completed university and both took a variety of biology courses and they will tell you that 1) there is no such thing as race and 2) anyone who thinks there is such a thing is a bigot. Except it’s #BlackLivesMatter not all lives matter.

    I think it’s one of those doublethink situations. How else will you know the right thing to say?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    My kids recently completed university and both took a variety of biology courses and they will tell you that ...
     
    Who will tell you, the profs or your kids, Anon7? I hope you mean the former.
  13. Strode’s exercise is an anomaly. Most American biology textbooks and curricula don’t discuss race at all

    Where can one learn about this from biological perspective?

    • Replies: @Karl
    13 [324] > Where can one learn about this from biological perspective?

    www.erectuswalksamongst.us


    written by an actuary. those folks GET PAID to notice the real facts about contingent risks

    Maybe a third are women. Well paid. Point your daughters to the field

  14. The emperors’ naked agenda is showing.

  15. Here’s Muhammad Ali talking about race:

    “It ain’t sad [that] I want my child to look like me. Every intelligent person wants his child to look like him… I want to blot out my race and lose my beautiful identity?… Who want[s] to kill their race?”

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    My favorite moment in the interview was when the host vehemently disagrees with Ali, who responds with something like, "Of course you don't agree, you got a TV show."

    I've heard that Ali had a low IQ, but he seemed to have a better idea than most about what was going on.
  16. @Anonymous
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/09/16/anne-hathaway-calls-for-destruction-of-the-myth-of-whiteness/

    Actress Anne Hathaway said that it was time to destroy the “myth” of “whiteness” during a speech at the Human Rights Campaign annual dinner Saturday.

    The New York Post reports that Anne Hathaway received the “National Equality Award” and during her speech said, “I think I’m probably walking around like most people right now. I’m pretty shell shocked by what I see every day, what I hear everyday. And I really don’t like to admit this, but I get scared.”

    ... Hathaway reportedly said that “with the exception of being a cisgender male, everything about how I was born has put me at the current center of a damaging and widely-accepted myth,” continuing, “that myth is that gayness orbits around straightness, transgender orbits around cisgender, and that all races orbit around whiteness.”
     

    There is no end to the ways in which White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the White man.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    There is no end to the ways in which White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the White man.

    No, it's just you in particular.
    , @nebulafox
    Seriously, go get laid, man.
    , @anon
    You’re right.
    , @kihowi
    You're right, but realize you're dealing with the greatest taboo of all. People will accept Nazism before they accept that the sexes aren't equal morally, either.
  17. @Anon7
    Here's Muhammad Ali talking about race:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqiWFLsgVi4

    "It ain't sad [that] I want my child to look like me. Every intelligent person wants his child to look like him... I want to blot out my race and lose my beautiful identity?... Who want[s] to kill their race?"

    My favorite moment in the interview was when the host vehemently disagrees with Ali, who responds with something like, “Of course you don’t agree, you got a TV show.”

    I’ve heard that Ali had a low IQ, but he seemed to have a better idea than most about what was going on.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    I'd guess that most of what Ali had to say about race at the time of this interview, he got from Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam.

    The Nation of Islam believes that the white race was created incrementally from the black race (first black, then brown, then yellow, then white) by a black scientist and his followers thousands of years ago. When I first heard the "out of Africa" theory, I thought immediately of the Nation of Islam and its founder, Wallace Fard Mohammed. White people are in this theory denatured and colorless beings (and therefore evil and without good qualities, these having been sacrificed in the quest to create different races). So naturally mixing the white race and the black race in the present was an abomination.

    , @Achmed E. Newman

    I’ve heard that Ali had a low IQ, but he seemed to have a better idea than most about what was going on.
     
    Holy Moley, Harry, I'd never seen that before! Mohammad Ali sounded more intelligent than 99% of the people on TV now, and 95% of the people OFF TV. I don't agree completely, but I am so impressed with that guy. Maybe more blows about the head are what people need right now. I dunno(?), ask Matt Yglesias.

    BTW, the interviewer was a proto-cuck, you could call it. We have the same types now, just without the mod haircuts.

    Not only will you never see the likes of an interview like that done today, TV would not even dare to play this old interview. Hatespeech, I tell's ya'.
  18. @Whiskey
    There is no end to the ways in which White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the White man.

    There is no end to the ways in which White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the White man.

    No, it’s just you in particular.

  19. @Whiskey
    There is no end to the ways in which White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the White man.

    Seriously, go get laid, man.

  20. @Anonymous
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/09/16/anne-hathaway-calls-for-destruction-of-the-myth-of-whiteness/

    Actress Anne Hathaway said that it was time to destroy the “myth” of “whiteness” during a speech at the Human Rights Campaign annual dinner Saturday.

    The New York Post reports that Anne Hathaway received the “National Equality Award” and during her speech said, “I think I’m probably walking around like most people right now. I’m pretty shell shocked by what I see every day, what I hear everyday. And I really don’t like to admit this, but I get scared.”

    ... Hathaway reportedly said that “with the exception of being a cisgender male, everything about how I was born has put me at the current center of a damaging and widely-accepted myth,” continuing, “that myth is that gayness orbits around straightness, transgender orbits around cisgender, and that all races orbit around whiteness.”
     

    all races orbit around whiteness.

    Immigration preferences seem to indicate that that’s the case.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  21. @Harry Baldwin
    My favorite moment in the interview was when the host vehemently disagrees with Ali, who responds with something like, "Of course you don't agree, you got a TV show."

    I've heard that Ali had a low IQ, but he seemed to have a better idea than most about what was going on.

    I’d guess that most of what Ali had to say about race at the time of this interview, he got from Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam.

    The Nation of Islam believes that the white race was created incrementally from the black race (first black, then brown, then yellow, then white) by a black scientist and his followers thousands of years ago. When I first heard the “out of Africa” theory, I thought immediately of the Nation of Islam and its founder, Wallace Fard Mohammed. White people are in this theory denatured and colorless beings (and therefore evil and without good qualities, these having been sacrificed in the quest to create different races). So naturally mixing the white race and the black race in the present was an abomination.

  22. OT (But speaking of indoctrination…)

    • Replies: @U-Bahn
    eah writes about Tampa's PC, whose name provides mirth and merriment to readers.
    ...Castor, one of the Dioscuri/Gemini twins Castor and Pollux in Greco-Roman...
    ...A binary star in the constellation Gemini, approximately 46 light years from Earth...
    ...French for beaver...
  23. @Whiskey
    There is no end to the ways in which White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the White man.

    You’re right.

  24. @Steve Sailer
    There is still controversy over whether dogs, coyotes and wolves are one species or three species, so Species Does Not Exist.

    Commenter bgates nailed this one:

    March 31, 2018 at 4:46 am GMT

    Boston’s high temp in 2017: 95F; low: 12F; a difference of 83F.
    Orlando’s high and low temps in 2017: 96F and 35F, a difference of 61F.

    Current temperatures are 46F and 71F, a difference of only 25 degrees. Therefore climate doesn’t exist any more than race does.

    • LOL: International Jew

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  25. @Steve Sailer
    There is still controversy over whether dogs, coyotes and wolves are one species or three species, so Species Does Not Exist.

    Commenter bgates nailed this one:

    bgates says:
    March 31, 2018 at 4:46 am GMT

    Boston’s high temp in 2017: 95F; low: 12F; a difference of 83F.
    Orlando’s high and low temps in 2017: 96F and 35F, a difference of 61F.

    Current temperatures are 46F and 71F, a difference of only 25 degrees. Therefore climate doesn’t exist any more than race does.

    • LOL: International Jew

  26. He was given 900,000 dollars to tell students that race is a social construct by the National Science Foundation. Your tax dollars hard at work.

  27. Textbooks today go in-depth on human evolution, genetic diversity, and sex. They’re just unlikely to explicitly acknowledge that these biological experiences can intersect with politics and identities.

    Interesting, albeit socially constructive, use of the word ‘experience’.

    I like to ask such people: can you give me any idea or concept that isn’t socially constructed, i.e., mediated through language? At which point they begin to experience the sensation of the ground crumbling beneath their feet.

  28. @obwandiyag
    Race isn't real but you want it to be real so you believe it's real.

    Africa is a shithole, but you want it not to be, so you say it isn’t a shithole.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  29. @Uilleam Yr Alban

    A racial group is an extended family that has [-a] higher than random levels of coherence and continuity due to some degree of endogamy.
     
    This is good. What science has been waiting for.

    A second proposition: Such extended families developed in geographic homelands, with extra-familiar mixing* occurring throughout human history and an increased phase of mixing across distances beginning around 6,ooo BP.


    *Extra-familiar mixing typically refers to one racial group's y-chromosome carriers being replaced with another racial group's y-chromosome carriers.

    *Extra-familiar mixing typically refers to one racial group’s y-chromosome carriers being replaced with another racial group’s y-chromosome carriers.

    That is to say history is replete with instances where invaders kill the men and take the women as war booty.

  30. @Anonymous
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/09/16/anne-hathaway-calls-for-destruction-of-the-myth-of-whiteness/

    Actress Anne Hathaway said that it was time to destroy the “myth” of “whiteness” during a speech at the Human Rights Campaign annual dinner Saturday.

    The New York Post reports that Anne Hathaway received the “National Equality Award” and during her speech said, “I think I’m probably walking around like most people right now. I’m pretty shell shocked by what I see every day, what I hear everyday. And I really don’t like to admit this, but I get scared.”

    ... Hathaway reportedly said that “with the exception of being a cisgender male, everything about how I was born has put me at the current center of a damaging and widely-accepted myth,” continuing, “that myth is that gayness orbits around straightness, transgender orbits around cisgender, and that all races orbit around whiteness.”
     

    all races orbit around whiteness.

    Anne Hathaway may be a boilerplate PC luvvie and as mad as a hatter but she’s not wrong on that one.

  31. @Whiskey
    There is no end to the ways in which White women are the natural and eternal enemy of the White man.

    You’re right, but realize you’re dealing with the greatest taboo of all. People will accept Nazism before they accept that the sexes aren’t equal morally, either.

  32. @Anonymous

    Strode’s exercise is an anomaly. Most American biology textbooks and curricula don’t discuss race at all
     
    Where can one learn about this from biological perspective?

    13 [324] > Where can one learn about this from biological perspective?

    http://www.erectuswalksamongst.us

    written by an actuary. those folks GET PAID to notice the real facts about contingent risks

    Maybe a third are women. Well paid. Point your daughters to the field

  33. @obwandiyag
    Race isn't real but you want it to be real so you believe it's real.

    Race is real, but you don’t want it to be, but you know it’s real anyway.

  34. @415 reasons
    I wonder why this kind of reasoning doesn’t get applied to other parts of the life sciences?

    True or false: there is too much variation between genomes of somatic cells of different individuals to distinguish a normal cell from a cancer cell.

    E. coil strain pathogenicity is a social construction, not a meaningful biological category.

    There is no reason to believe that finches on different islands in the Galapagos vary in any systematic way in their ability to eat different kinds of foods.

    E. coil strain pathogenicity is a social construction, not a meaningful biological category.

    Yeah, you keep telling yourself that as you eat your Chipotle bowl. It tastes a lot better if you do.

  35. @Jus' Sayin'...
    These "science teachers" are giving the term "mad scientist" a whole new meaning.

  36. @Anon7
    My kids recently completed university and both took a variety of biology courses and they will tell you that 1) there is no such thing as race and 2) anyone who thinks there is such a thing is a bigot. Except it’s #BlackLivesMatter not all lives matter.

    I think it’s one of those doublethink situations. How else will you know the right thing to say?

    My kids recently completed university and both took a variety of biology courses and they will tell you that …

    Who will tell you, the profs or your kids, Anon7? I hope you mean the former.

  37. True or False: When several traits are combined they can be used to distinguish one racial group from another.

    Apparently the correct answer to this is ‘false’. But that’s wrong.

  38. @Harry Baldwin
    My favorite moment in the interview was when the host vehemently disagrees with Ali, who responds with something like, "Of course you don't agree, you got a TV show."

    I've heard that Ali had a low IQ, but he seemed to have a better idea than most about what was going on.

    I’ve heard that Ali had a low IQ, but he seemed to have a better idea than most about what was going on.

    Holy Moley, Harry, I’d never seen that before! Mohammad Ali sounded more intelligent than 99% of the people on TV now, and 95% of the people OFF TV. I don’t agree completely, but I am so impressed with that guy. Maybe more blows about the head are what people need right now. I dunno(?), ask Matt Yglesias.

    BTW, the interviewer was a proto-cuck, you could call it. We have the same types now, just without the mod haircuts.

    Not only will you never see the likes of an interview like that done today, TV would not even dare to play this old interview. Hatespeech, I tell’s ya’.

  39. I was listening to the radio this morning and they talked about a local news reporter who is trying to get more African Americans to sign up to be organ donors. This was after her husband needed a new heart, and one was not available that matched, because he was African American. A few days ago there was a story on the same station that talked about how the idea of race is a social construct and has no basis in science.

  40. So I know plenty of PhD anthropology types who will feed this stuff their students. The difference is that most of them have at least some grasp of reality, so they actually understand what it means when they say that “race is a social construct”, i.e. how weak of a statement it is.

    If you ask any of them in private what that statement implies, you’ll usually get reasonable answers. E.g. if you ask “so does that mean there can’t be substantial biological differences between the constructed races?”, they’ll say “of course not.” And so on. They’re not exactly going to admit a belief in genetic IQ differences, but they’ll concede the possibility, usually. When pressed, they reveal that the “race is a social construct” line means nothing more than “the way and the extent to which we divide humanity into racial groups is socially determined and not always exactly how a taxonomist would do it (e.g. if you had to divide humanity into just two races, you’d put bushman as one and everyone else – other blacks, white, asian – in the other, I believe), which is why different cultures don’t all do it the same.” Okay, sure. But that’s not really what most people care about. And it’s not what most students think it means.

    The problem is that they don’t make any effort to clarify that to their students. It’s basically used as a way to put and end to the conversation and move onto something else. Most know that “race is a social construct” could not possibly be a logical rebuttal to an argument for genetic differences between races – but they’ll say it anyway, if it helps end the discussion.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    When pressed, they reveal that the “race is a social construct” line means nothing more than “the way and the extent to which we divide humanity into racial groups is socially determined and not always exactly how a taxonomist would do it
     
    When taxonomists define something for a willing society, a "social determination" is being made.
    , @MikeP
    Sure, it's a motte and bailey doctrine for many.

    But I wouldn't underestimate the true level of denialism. See, for example, "Anthropologists' views on race, ancestry, and genetics" (2016). Only some of this can be semiotic.

    Seemingly empirical claims:

    -- only 33% agree that "Continental population categories—Africans, Asians, Europeans—are useful for examining genetic relationships (i.e., relatedness) among people"
    -- only 29% agree that "Genetic variation data may be used to cluster racially ascribed people into groups of continental origin."
  41. There is crimestop but there is also doublethink. Every high school student in any AP class, any calculus class, any physics class must hold two contradictory opinions. Sooner or later, one of those opinions is dropped. It is the one that does not match the facts

  42. @Anonymous
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/09/16/anne-hathaway-calls-for-destruction-of-the-myth-of-whiteness/

    Actress Anne Hathaway said that it was time to destroy the “myth” of “whiteness” during a speech at the Human Rights Campaign annual dinner Saturday.

    The New York Post reports that Anne Hathaway received the “National Equality Award” and during her speech said, “I think I’m probably walking around like most people right now. I’m pretty shell shocked by what I see every day, what I hear everyday. And I really don’t like to admit this, but I get scared.”

    ... Hathaway reportedly said that “with the exception of being a cisgender male, everything about how I was born has put me at the current center of a damaging and widely-accepted myth,” continuing, “that myth is that gayness orbits around straightness, transgender orbits around cisgender, and that all races orbit around whiteness.”
     

    “Has been actress repeats party line……now here’s Bob with the weather.”

    Who gives a fuck what Anne Hathaway thinks?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Who gives a ╭∩╮(ಠ۝ಠ)╭∩╮what Anne Hathaway thinks?
     
    A lot of us would kill to find out.

    https://www.shakespeare.org.uk/explore-shakespeare/shakespedia/william-shakespeare/shakespeares-wife-and-marriage/

  43. On topic:

    Swedish professor accused of bigotry for saying men and women ‘biologically different’

    A Swedish university is investigating a professor for “anti-feminism” and “transphobia” after he said there are biological differences between men and women. He is being urged to retract his comments.

    The professor, Germund Hesslow, who works in neurophysiology at Lund University, was accused by a student of making “transphobic” and “anti-feminist” statements in a lecture — but he has refused to back down.

    During his course on ‘Heritage and Environment’ at the leading academic institution, Hesslow cited empirical research which supports the idea that there are differences between men and women which are “biologically founded” and therefore genders cannot be regarded as “social constructs alone”.

    empirical research which supports the idea that there are differences between men and women which are “biologically founded”

    Pretty good empirical research if you ask me.

    Do the Swedes put fluoride into the water? Is there a plan to thermonuke the region should the zombie infestation spread?

    • Replies: @U-Bahn
    El Dato writes

    The professor, Germund Hesslow...
     
    The Bonnier press in Sweden will hound him out of a job. He will have to change his name to something less controversial, like Larry Summerstrom or Summersberg or Summerstromberg.
  44. I see that in the Atlantic article, in one of the parts not quoted by Sailer, you can find this paragraph on sickle-cell disease:

    Some students would receive a text that, following the conventions of many biology textbooks today, simply stated that sickle cell is more common among African Americans. Donovan would give the other group a similar passage, but with a crucial difference: This text would explain, accurately, that sickle cell is more common in people with ancestors from historically malarial areas, including sub-Saharan Africa, South Asia, and southern Europe. But it would leave out explicit mention of racial categories.

    This is yet another example of indocrination, in this case indoctrination by omission.

    Sickle-cell anemia isn’t AS common in South Asia and Southern Europe as it is in Sub-Saharan African.

    Of course the allele that codify for sickle-cell disease are not associated one-to-one with the alleles that codify for dark skin (they’re not the same alleles!) and they’re closely associated with malarial areas, since sickle-cell disease confers a degree of resistance to malaria which makes it adaptive. That much is true. But 80% of cases of sickle-cell diseases occur in Sub-Saharan Africa.

    Sickle-cell disease is MORE common among African-American than among, say, Southern Italians: 8% of African Americans are affected, compared to 2% in Sicily (more in some areas of Sicily than others). DIFFERENCES between races are what can be compared, not just the presence or absence of a trait.

    Furthermore not all forms of sickle cell disease are caused by the same genetic sequences across races: Hemoglobin SB+ (beta) thalassemia is relatively common among Sicilians, much less common among people of Sub-Saharan ancestry, while the opposite is true for sickle-cell anemia.

    Studies have also shown that African-American with sickle-cell disease are less genetically admixed than other African-Americans: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3116635/ so when talking SPECIFICALLY about the prevalence of sickle-cell disease in African Americans saying that it’s a genetic disease inherited from racial origins is pretty accurate.

    Sickle-cell disease shows that while admixture exists, and lots of traits are NOT EXCLUSIVE of a race, or not associated one-to-one with a race. However it also shows that traits ARE inherited and shared along racial lines, that races are not just pseudo-science or a product of folklore.

    Strictly speaking races are “constructs”, but only in the same sense that the laws of gravity or of evolution by natural selection are a “construct”. They’re SCIENTIFIC CONSTRUCTS, namely useful models to understand reality, make predictions, explain phenomena.

    More evidence can lead to revisions to the models: genetic evidence shows that Sub-Saharan Africans and Aboriginal Australians are different races, while the first observations classified them as the same race. Similarly the Newtonian paradigm has been surpassed by the Einstenian paradigm for gravity, and genetics has improved and redefined some aspects of evolution by natural selection. This is common and normal, it’s how science marches on.

    What this means isn’t that “there are no races” or “there are no differences in traits between races”, but that there’s no Platonic ideals of a race, there’s no “spiritual racial bond” or “collective racial guilt”, regardless of what SJWs (or, admittedly, some of the less scientifically inclined among the alt-right) think. What is real are differences in traits between races, which are measurable and comparable.

    To put it in simple terms: human biodiversity explains WHY blacks ON AVERAGE achieve much less and have much more problems with the justice system (in the US) than whites. It doesn’t say that all blacks are criminal underachievers, or that all whites are successful and squeaky-clean, or that all whites are “privileged” and all black are “oppressed”.

    SJWs are projecting their own Platonic standards about “racism” onto biology. Their theory requires them to see “whiteness” as a pervasive, omnipotent Satan that corrupts everything, so they assume that their critics are all equally worshiping “whiteness” as an omnipotent God that creates anything good and holy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    1) Leftism is a religion
    2) Leftism is a devil's religion
    3) Leftism is going to get us killed
  45. @obwandiyag
    Race isn't real but you want it to be real so you believe it's real.

    Differences of traits across different populations of humans are real, closely related to ancestry, and associate to form some pretty well-defined clusters (with some degree of overlapping of course). You can call those clusters “sqwyjiia” instead of “races” if you want, but you cannot deny their existence.

  46. For the record, the answer he says he was looking for on number five was “False.”

    Lewontin’s Fallacy showed that the answer is “True”:

    https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/2f62/95c900dd40377e60b6ca07ed1dc155c71504.pdf

  47. on several questions—including number five—the students split nearly 50-50. “They’re guessing,” Strode says. (For the record, the answer he says he was looking for on number five was “False.”)

    Question 5:

    True or False: When several traits are combined they can be used to distinguish one racial group from another.

    Steve’s answer in the OP: True.

    Ancestry.com’s and 23andMe’s answer: True.

    Common sense: True.

    How fortunate we are to have teacher Paul Strode, journalist Michael Schulson Undark, Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg, and the NSF to help us unlearn our errors and embrace the One True Faith.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    ... that's journalist Michael Schulson of the Undark webzine...

    Also, at the bottom of the article where the comments section isn't, The Atlantic presents their 10 Most Popluar articles:

    1. Throw Your Children’s Art Away

    2. American Democracy Is in Crisis

    3. A Warning From Europe: The Worst Is Yet to Come (Polarization. Conspiracy theories. Attacks on the free press. An obsession with loyalty. Recent events in the United States follow a pattern Europeans know all too well.)

    4. Brett Kavanaugh and the Revealing Logic of ‘Boys Will Be Boys’

    5. The Tiny Blond Bible Teacher Taking on the Evangelical Political Machine

    6. A New World Marathon Record Almost Defies Description (A legendary Kenyan marathoner has once again redefined what humans are capable of.)

    7. Photos: The Aftermath of Hurricane Florence

    8. The Movie Myths That Shaped Steve Bannon’s View of America

    9. The Cartoon That Captures the Damaged American Male

    10. Key Senate Republicans Express Support for Mueller Probe

  48. @ic1000

    on several questions—including number five—the students split nearly 50-50. “They’re guessing,” Strode says. (For the record, the answer he says he was looking for on number five was “False.”)
     
    Question 5:

    True or False: When several traits are combined they can be used to distinguish one racial group from another.

    Steve's answer in the OP: True.

    Ancestry.com's and 23andMe's answer: True.

    Common sense: True.

    How fortunate we are to have teacher Paul Strode, journalist Michael Schulson Undark, Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg, and the NSF to help us unlearn our errors and embrace the One True Faith.

    … that’s journalist Michael Schulson of the Undark webzine…

    Also, at the bottom of the article where the comments section isn’t, The Atlantic presents their 10 Most Popluar articles:

    1. Throw Your Children’s Art Away

    2. American Democracy Is in Crisis

    3. A Warning From Europe: The Worst Is Yet to Come (Polarization. Conspiracy theories. Attacks on the free press. An obsession with loyalty. Recent events in the United States follow a pattern Europeans know all too well.)

    4. Brett Kavanaugh and the Revealing Logic of ‘Boys Will Be Boys’

    5. The Tiny Blond Bible Teacher Taking on the Evangelical Political Machine

    6. A New World Marathon Record Almost Defies Description (A legendary Kenyan marathoner has once again redefined what humans are capable of.)

    7. Photos: The Aftermath of Hurricane Florence

    8. The Movie Myths That Shaped Steve Bannon’s View of America

    9. The Cartoon That Captures the Damaged American Male

    10. Key Senate Republicans Express Support for Mueller Probe

  49. Anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @RCB
    So I know plenty of PhD anthropology types who will feed this stuff their students. The difference is that most of them have at least some grasp of reality, so they actually understand what it means when they say that "race is a social construct", i.e. how weak of a statement it is.

    If you ask any of them in private what that statement implies, you'll usually get reasonable answers. E.g. if you ask "so does that mean there can't be substantial biological differences between the constructed races?", they'll say "of course not." And so on. They're not exactly going to admit a belief in genetic IQ differences, but they'll concede the possibility, usually. When pressed, they reveal that the "race is a social construct" line means nothing more than "the way and the extent to which we divide humanity into racial groups is socially determined and not always exactly how a taxonomist would do it (e.g. if you had to divide humanity into just two races, you'd put bushman as one and everyone else - other blacks, white, asian - in the other, I believe), which is why different cultures don't all do it the same." Okay, sure. But that's not really what most people care about. And it's not what most students think it means.

    The problem is that they don't make any effort to clarify that to their students. It's basically used as a way to put and end to the conversation and move onto something else. Most know that "race is a social construct" could not possibly be a logical rebuttal to an argument for genetic differences between races - but they'll say it anyway, if it helps end the discussion.

    When pressed, they reveal that the “race is a social construct” line means nothing more than “the way and the extent to which we divide humanity into racial groups is socially determined and not always exactly how a taxonomist would do it

    When taxonomists define something for a willing society, a “social determination” is being made.

  50. @Anonymous
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/09/16/anne-hathaway-calls-for-destruction-of-the-myth-of-whiteness/

    Actress Anne Hathaway said that it was time to destroy the “myth” of “whiteness” during a speech at the Human Rights Campaign annual dinner Saturday.

    The New York Post reports that Anne Hathaway received the “National Equality Award” and during her speech said, “I think I’m probably walking around like most people right now. I’m pretty shell shocked by what I see every day, what I hear everyday. And I really don’t like to admit this, but I get scared.”

    ... Hathaway reportedly said that “with the exception of being a cisgender male, everything about how I was born has put me at the current center of a damaging and widely-accepted myth,” continuing, “that myth is that gayness orbits around straightness, transgender orbits around cisgender, and that all races orbit around whiteness.”
     

    Well she is approaching the age where the mother parts must have started. So she has to up the SJW bulls–t to stay relevant.

  51. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright
    'As far as I can tell, that’s about all they’ve got in their toolkit: just keep repeating “race is a social construction, not a biological category.”'

    It's stunning that people can actually profess to believe that. Conceivably, there isn't a perfectly satisfactory definition for 'race.'

    There isn't a perfectly satisfactory definition for 'love.' It doesn't follow that it doesn't exist.

    “As far as I can tell, that’s about all they’ve got in their toolkit: just keep repeating “race is a social construction, not a biological category.”’

    It’s stunning that people can actually profess to believe that.

    I have an intelligent, fairly conservative friend who insists that race is a social construct. He believes that because many people are not 100% one race, it is proof that race doesn’t exist.

    Can anyone here suggest a book I could recommend to him in order to dispel his belief about race? He’s quite an avid reader. Thanks.

    • Replies: @Feric Jaggar
    He believes that because many people are not 100% one race, it is proof that race doesn’t exist.

    This sentence doesn't make sense. How does he know that people aren't 100% one race unless he has an operating definition of 'race' to begin with? He must agree with the usefulness of this definition of race in order to employ it. His claim invalidates his own argument.

    There's no shade of green that is not a mix of blue and yellow -- therefore green doesn't exist.

    , @Anonymous
    Why don't you just ask him what breed of dog is one who is half Saluki, half Irish Wolfhound? Just because it doesn't align completely with one or the other, does that mean no dog breeds exist? Once he understands the fallacy of his thinking, you should be able to make more inroads.
  52. @Steve Sailer
    There is still controversy over whether dogs, coyotes and wolves are one species or three species, so Species Does Not Exist.

    Dogs diverged from wolves millennia ago.
    See for reference
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26004765
    …Ancient wolf genome reveals an early divergence of domestic dog … (1) Department of Genetics, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA 02115…
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140116190137.htm
    …Dogs and wolves evolved from a common ancestor between 9000 and 34000 … jackal to serve as an “outgroup” representing earlier divergence. … “We also found evidence for genetic exchange between wolves and jackals…

  53. @eah
    OT (But speaking of indoctrination...)

    https://twitter.com/Goy_McAvoy/status/1041377459990667270

    eah writes about Tampa’s PC, whose name provides mirth and merriment to readers.
    …Castor, one of the Dioscuri/Gemini twins Castor and Pollux in Greco-Roman…
    …A binary star in the constellation Gemini, approximately 46 light years from Earth…
    …French for beaver…

  54. ‘I have an intelligent, fairly conservative friend who insists that race is a social construct. He believes that because many people are not 100% one race, it is proof that race doesn’t exist…’

    Can’t help with a book — but I will observe that many people have a real hard time with shades of grey. Nazism had its good points, etc — people just can’t handle it.

    It all has to be black or white. So yeah — there are elements to race that are a ‘social construct.’ But even more so, it’s a physical fact. The one doesn’t rule out the other.

  55. @El Dato
    On topic:

    Swedish professor accused of bigotry for saying men and women ‘biologically different’

    A Swedish university is investigating a professor for “anti-feminism” and “transphobia” after he said there are biological differences between men and women. He is being urged to retract his comments.

    The professor, Germund Hesslow, who works in neurophysiology at Lund University, was accused by a student of making “transphobic” and “anti-feminist” statements in a lecture — but he has refused to back down.

    During his course on ‘Heritage and Environment’ at the leading academic institution, Hesslow cited empirical research which supports the idea that there are differences between men and women which are “biologically founded” and therefore genders cannot be regarded as “social constructs alone”.

     

    empirical research which supports the idea that there are differences between men and women which are “biologically founded”


    Pretty good empirical research if you ask me.

    Do the Swedes put fluoride into the water? Is there a plan to thermonuke the region should the zombie infestation spread?

    El Dato writes

    The professor, Germund Hesslow…

    The Bonnier press in Sweden will hound him out of a job. He will have to change his name to something less controversial, like Larry Summerstrom or Summersberg or Summerstromberg.

  56. If only there were some handy methods to rate primary, secondary and tertiary schools and teachers on the degree of social construct poisoning and other factors.

  57. @fish

    "Has been actress repeats party line......now here's Bob with the weather."

     

    Who gives a fuck what Anne Hathaway thinks?

    Who gives a ╭∩╮(ಠ۝ಠ)╭∩╮what Anne Hathaway thinks?

    A lot of us would kill to find out.

    https://www.shakespeare.org.uk/explore-shakespeare/shakespedia/william-shakespeare/shakespeares-wife-and-marriage/

  58. @RCB
    So I know plenty of PhD anthropology types who will feed this stuff their students. The difference is that most of them have at least some grasp of reality, so they actually understand what it means when they say that "race is a social construct", i.e. how weak of a statement it is.

    If you ask any of them in private what that statement implies, you'll usually get reasonable answers. E.g. if you ask "so does that mean there can't be substantial biological differences between the constructed races?", they'll say "of course not." And so on. They're not exactly going to admit a belief in genetic IQ differences, but they'll concede the possibility, usually. When pressed, they reveal that the "race is a social construct" line means nothing more than "the way and the extent to which we divide humanity into racial groups is socially determined and not always exactly how a taxonomist would do it (e.g. if you had to divide humanity into just two races, you'd put bushman as one and everyone else - other blacks, white, asian - in the other, I believe), which is why different cultures don't all do it the same." Okay, sure. But that's not really what most people care about. And it's not what most students think it means.

    The problem is that they don't make any effort to clarify that to their students. It's basically used as a way to put and end to the conversation and move onto something else. Most know that "race is a social construct" could not possibly be a logical rebuttal to an argument for genetic differences between races - but they'll say it anyway, if it helps end the discussion.

    Sure, it’s a motte and bailey doctrine for many.

    But I wouldn’t underestimate the true level of denialism. See, for example, “Anthropologists’ views on race, ancestry, and genetics” (2016). Only some of this can be semiotic.

    Seemingly empirical claims:

    — only 33% agree that “Continental population categories—Africans, Asians, Europeans—are useful for examining genetic relationships (i.e., relatedness) among people”
    — only 29% agree that “Genetic variation data may be used to cluster racially ascribed people into groups of continental origin.”

  59. @obwandiyag
    Race isn't real but you want it to be real so you believe it's real.

    A trip this past weekend to the newly-opened liquor superstore nearby only reinforced every stereotype I’ve ever held.

    Asians will stand and blankly stare at the locked single malt scotch case as if they can remove a bottle with telekinesis.

    Every Indian I saw with a store employee didn’t seem to understand the concept of a store never having a “sale” because the prices were already as low as possible.

    90% of the Hennessey cognac is bought by blacks and is almost always purchased with some sort of mixer. Note: every single bottle of Hennessey, even the $14.99 size, is in a locked case.

    Finally, almost every expensive wine or spirit I tasted was equaled or bettered by a far less expensive brand.

    My girlfriend is happy I’ve found something to do while she shops: notice.

  60. The Undark Enlightenment Strikes Back.

  61. @Anonymous
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/09/16/anne-hathaway-calls-for-destruction-of-the-myth-of-whiteness/

    Actress Anne Hathaway said that it was time to destroy the “myth” of “whiteness” during a speech at the Human Rights Campaign annual dinner Saturday.

    The New York Post reports that Anne Hathaway received the “National Equality Award” and during her speech said, “I think I’m probably walking around like most people right now. I’m pretty shell shocked by what I see every day, what I hear everyday. And I really don’t like to admit this, but I get scared.”

    ... Hathaway reportedly said that “with the exception of being a cisgender male, everything about how I was born has put me at the current center of a damaging and widely-accepted myth,” continuing, “that myth is that gayness orbits around straightness, transgender orbits around cisgender, and that all races orbit around whiteness.”
     

    Presumably she’s be declining any further acting roles to make way for black, one legged trannies to have their rightful place in the spotlight?

  62. @Lummard
    I see that in the Atlantic article, in one of the parts not quoted by Sailer, you can find this paragraph on sickle-cell disease:

    Some students would receive a text that, following the conventions of many biology textbooks today, simply stated that sickle cell is more common among African Americans. Donovan would give the other group a similar passage, but with a crucial difference: This text would explain, accurately, that sickle cell is more common in people with ancestors from historically malarial areas, including sub-Saharan Africa, South Asia, and southern Europe. But it would leave out explicit mention of racial categories.
     
    This is yet another example of indocrination, in this case indoctrination by omission.

    Sickle-cell anemia isn't AS common in South Asia and Southern Europe as it is in Sub-Saharan African.

    Of course the allele that codify for sickle-cell disease are not associated one-to-one with the alleles that codify for dark skin (they're not the same alleles!) and they're closely associated with malarial areas, since sickle-cell disease confers a degree of resistance to malaria which makes it adaptive. That much is true. But 80% of cases of sickle-cell diseases occur in Sub-Saharan Africa.

    Sickle-cell disease is MORE common among African-American than among, say, Southern Italians: 8% of African Americans are affected, compared to 2% in Sicily (more in some areas of Sicily than others). DIFFERENCES between races are what can be compared, not just the presence or absence of a trait.

    Furthermore not all forms of sickle cell disease are caused by the same genetic sequences across races: Hemoglobin SB+ (beta) thalassemia is relatively common among Sicilians, much less common among people of Sub-Saharan ancestry, while the opposite is true for sickle-cell anemia.

    Studies have also shown that African-American with sickle-cell disease are less genetically admixed than other African-Americans: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3116635/ so when talking SPECIFICALLY about the prevalence of sickle-cell disease in African Americans saying that it's a genetic disease inherited from racial origins is pretty accurate.

    Sickle-cell disease shows that while admixture exists, and lots of traits are NOT EXCLUSIVE of a race, or not associated one-to-one with a race. However it also shows that traits ARE inherited and shared along racial lines, that races are not just pseudo-science or a product of folklore.

    Strictly speaking races are "constructs", but only in the same sense that the laws of gravity or of evolution by natural selection are a "construct". They're SCIENTIFIC CONSTRUCTS, namely useful models to understand reality, make predictions, explain phenomena.

    More evidence can lead to revisions to the models: genetic evidence shows that Sub-Saharan Africans and Aboriginal Australians are different races, while the first observations classified them as the same race. Similarly the Newtonian paradigm has been surpassed by the Einstenian paradigm for gravity, and genetics has improved and redefined some aspects of evolution by natural selection. This is common and normal, it's how science marches on.

    What this means isn't that "there are no races" or "there are no differences in traits between races", but that there's no Platonic ideals of a race, there's no "spiritual racial bond" or "collective racial guilt", regardless of what SJWs (or, admittedly, some of the less scientifically inclined among the alt-right) think. What is real are differences in traits between races, which are measurable and comparable.

    To put it in simple terms: human biodiversity explains WHY blacks ON AVERAGE achieve much less and have much more problems with the justice system (in the US) than whites. It doesn't say that all blacks are criminal underachievers, or that all whites are successful and squeaky-clean, or that all whites are "privileged" and all black are "oppressed".

    SJWs are projecting their own Platonic standards about "racism" onto biology. Their theory requires them to see "whiteness" as a pervasive, omnipotent Satan that corrupts everything, so they assume that their critics are all equally worshiping "whiteness" as an omnipotent God that creates anything good and holy.

    1) Leftism is a religion
    2) Leftism is a devil’s religion
    3) Leftism is going to get us killed

  63. “Progressives” can no longer believe there are two sexes determined bioligically.

    So pointing out their confusions around the slightly more complex issue of race … more or less pointless.

  64. @Anonymous

    “As far as I can tell, that’s about all they’ve got in their toolkit: just keep repeating “race is a social construction, not a biological category.”’

    It’s stunning that people can actually profess to believe that.
     

    I have an intelligent, fairly conservative friend who insists that race is a social construct. He believes that because many people are not 100% one race, it is proof that race doesn’t exist.

    Can anyone here suggest a book I could recommend to him in order to dispel his belief about race? He’s quite an avid reader. Thanks.

    He believes that because many people are not 100% one race, it is proof that race doesn’t exist.

    This sentence doesn’t make sense. How does he know that people aren’t 100% one race unless he has an operating definition of ‘race’ to begin with? He must agree with the usefulness of this definition of race in order to employ it. His claim invalidates his own argument.

    There’s no shade of green that is not a mix of blue and yellow — therefore green doesn’t exist.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    This sentence doesn’t make sense. How does he know that people aren’t 100% one race unless he has an operating definition of ‘race’ to begin with? He must agree with the usefulness of this definition of race in order to employ it. His claim invalidates his own argument.

    There’s no shade of green that is not a mix of blue and yellow — therefore green doesn’t exist.

    Good point. Thank you.
  65. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Feric Jaggar
    He believes that because many people are not 100% one race, it is proof that race doesn’t exist.

    This sentence doesn't make sense. How does he know that people aren't 100% one race unless he has an operating definition of 'race' to begin with? He must agree with the usefulness of this definition of race in order to employ it. His claim invalidates his own argument.

    There's no shade of green that is not a mix of blue and yellow -- therefore green doesn't exist.

    This sentence doesn’t make sense. How does he know that people aren’t 100% one race unless he has an operating definition of ‘race’ to begin with? He must agree with the usefulness of this definition of race in order to employ it. His claim invalidates his own argument.

    There’s no shade of green that is not a mix of blue and yellow — therefore green doesn’t exist.

    Good point. Thank you.

  66. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    “As far as I can tell, that’s about all they’ve got in their toolkit: just keep repeating “race is a social construction, not a biological category.”’

    It’s stunning that people can actually profess to believe that.
     

    I have an intelligent, fairly conservative friend who insists that race is a social construct. He believes that because many people are not 100% one race, it is proof that race doesn’t exist.

    Can anyone here suggest a book I could recommend to him in order to dispel his belief about race? He’s quite an avid reader. Thanks.

    Why don’t you just ask him what breed of dog is one who is half Saluki, half Irish Wolfhound? Just because it doesn’t align completely with one or the other, does that mean no dog breeds exist? Once he understands the fallacy of his thinking, you should be able to make more inroads.

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