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Since Watergate, California has been more or less dominated politically by a small number of Bay Area Democratic Catholic and Jewish professional politicians, most notably Gov. Jerry Brown, Rep. Nancy Pelosi, Sen. Diane Feinstein, Sen. Barbara Boxer, and party chairman John Burton.

But the Big Five can’t live forever. Boxer has been replaced by Kamala Harris. (Senator Harris launched her political career by assuming a position under Willie Brown, prone.)

Burton, who insisted on being represented on Wikipedia with an ancient photo making him look like Robert Redford in All the President’s Men, has shuffled off in his mid-80s. But the struggle to replace him has been contentious.

From the New York Times:

Democratic Fight in California Is a Warning for the National Party

By ADAM NAGOURNEY AUG. 9, 2017

SACRAMENTO — For Democrats across the nation, California has offered a bright if lonely light this year. …

Even at a time of overall success, state Democrats are torn by a bitter fight for the party leadership, revealing the kind of divisions — between insiders and outsiders, liberals and moderates — that unsettled the national party last year and could threaten its success in coming years.

The fight pits Eric C. Bauman, a longtime party leader, against Kimberly Ellis, a Bay Area activist. Mr. Bauman won the election by just over 60 votes out of 3,000 cast at the party convention in May, but Ms. Ellis has refused to concede, claiming voting improprieties, like permitting ineligible people to vote for Mr. Bauman.

So the POC candidate, Ms. Ellis, favors Voter Suppression? Ok, got it.

The old California Mainstream Democratic Establishment is said to be represented by Bauman, a gay Orthodox Jew from the Bronx who is a cousin of Jon “Bowzer” Bauman of Sha-Na-Na. In contrast, California’s emerging tidal wave of Latino and Asian voters is said to be represented by Ms. Ellis, who is black.

But as much as Ms. Ellis is portrayed by her supporters as the future of the Democratic Party, Mr. Bauman is perceived as the face of the establishment Democratic Party they blame for the party’s setbacks in Washington.

In this 0ne-party state, Democrats would be clawing each other’s eyes out over who has more Diversity Pokemon Points if they couldn’t unify around hating the Real Menace, James Damore.

 
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  2. Millions of White Core Americans are trapped behind the lines in California with no political representation. There are almost 40 million people in California. That means that tremendous political energy has been bottled up by filthy slobs such as Pelosi, Brown and the rest of the anti-White Democrats.

    Debt and demography will soon lead to a financial implosion in the United States. When that hits I hope the White Core Americans in California are prepared to do what is required to reclaim political power in California. I hope the Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Google tech bubble collapse will do the trick.

    California must be taken back from the anti-White Democrats like Spain was taken back from the Muslims by the Christians.

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  3. FJ says:

    OT: It seems to me that this New Yorker article contains the seeds of developing conventional wisdom, namely that racial preferences are totally fine as long as they primarily hurt white people. Market-dominant minorities know how their bread will be buttered:

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-affirmative-action-and-asian-americans

    “But this lawsuit, and much of the discussion of affirmative action that surrounds it, makes a serious error in assuming that, in order to stop discrimination against Asian applicants, race-conscious affirmative action must end. The argument simply proves too much. Continued use of affirmative action of the kind upheld by the Supreme Court is perfectly compatible with tackling the discrimination at issue. The problem is not race-conscious holistic review; rather, it is the added, sub-rosa deployment of racial balancing in a manner that keeps the number of Asians so artificially low relative to whites who are less strong on academic measures. It is also time to look seriously at the impact on Asians (many of them immigrants or the children of immigrants) of the advantage enjoyed by legacy admissions and wealthy families who are likely to give significant donations. It distorts and confuses the debate to lay the preferential treatment for whites over Asians at the feet of affirmative action—or, on the other side, to deny that Asians are disadvantaged in admissions today.

    In the pursuit of diversity, some amount of racial balancing seems unavoidable, however taboo. We should not want the composition of our élite universities to be wildly out of proportion to the racial composition of our country. Such lopsided access to gateways of opportunity and power—say, with whites being severely underrepresented at schools like Harvard—has the potential to fuel dangerous resentment and disturb social peace, at least if the change occurs too far ahead of demographic changes that are projected to make whites a minority in this country in less than three decades. I would not relish seeing the nation’s most élite colleges become majority Asian, which is what has resulted at selective high schools, such as Stuyvesant, that do not consider race in admissions at all. It is also extremely troubling when solely test-based admissions such as Stuyvesant’s reflect the failure to remedy structural disadvantages suffered by black and Latino students. What is needed instead, then, is race-conscious affirmative action, to address the historic discrimination and underrepresentation of blacks and Latinos, in combination with far less severity in the favoring of whites relative to Asians.

    Harvard and other schools will vigorously defend their use of race-conscious affirmative action along the lines previously upheld by the Supreme Court. Outside of court, the Asian-discrimination claim may move colleges to refine their admissions procedures and better calibrate for diversity and fairness. It is unrealistic to think that universities like Harvard can immediately stop privileging white applicants, given the current whiteness of their donors, but that picture will change over time. It was as Jews gained more political power and became more likely to be donors that élite schools’ discrimination against them waned. And, for the first time, racial minorities are a majority of this year’s entering class at Harvard. The enrollment of Asians is the highest ever, at more than twenty-two per cent, with their increased share cutting into white, rather than black or Latino, enrollment. Those trends will be hard to reverse, and other schools will follow suit.”

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  4. FJ says:

    Off topic: It seems to me that this New Yorker article about affirmative action contains the seeds of developing conventional wisdom, namely that racial preferences are fine in the land of opportunity so long as they mostly hurt white people. Market dominant minorities like Jeannie Suk Gersen know how their bread is going to be buttered.

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-affirmative-action-and-asian-americans

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    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    1. I was disgusted by the willful blindness of that piece as well as the "let's take more from the evil whitey" conclusion.

    2. I think she's Korean. Koreans, unlike Chinese and Indians, don't have a history of being market-dominant minorities unless you count dry cleaners and imported hair for black women (or the West Point).
    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    This lady is brutal. She has issues with Asians and with non-Jewish whites.

    I noticed on her Wiki page that her two marriages are to Jewish guys. Basically, she thinks Asians need to be more creative - like her, of course - and that goys are Nazis.

    Give her credit. She knows who runs the show and how they run the show, so she's joined them.

    The debate stage is done. Whites will never "win" the argument with people like this. It's become quite clear that we're back at the stage where the strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must.

    This woman and all of the others are out for power, and they're using it. Whites still think that this is a debate tournament when it's a brawl. Either we figure that out or we perish - and, frankly, if we can't figure it out, we should perish. At the moment, we're a silly, weak people.

    We were pretty awesome for a very long time, so I'm not counting us out yet, but it doesn't look good at the moment.
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  5. Sunbeam says:

    “In contrast, California’s emerging tidal wave of Latino and Asian voters is said to be represented by Ms. Ellis, who is black.”

    That sounds real good and seems like an obvious thing to write – if you are a white, liberal op-ed writer on the right side of history.

    But if you are a Black, Latino, or Asian voter does it really work that way?

    My take is black politicians in California are doomed. When it becomes obvious that people like Jerry Brown or Feinstein aren’t viable in statewide races, I imagine that is about the same time Kamala Harris and Kimberly Ellis aren’t viable either.

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    That sounds real good and seems like an obvious thing to write – if you are a white, liberal op-ed writer on the right side of history
     
    It's not just liberals. A lot of Alt-righters think blacks and Asians will be buddies to screw the white man. Because, frankly, they want whites to be isolated, so they can purity-spiral.
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  6. Moshe says:

    I noticed his name and looked at his pic and he’s definitely not of the same genetic stock as most jews. More interestingly being a gay orthodox jew is impossible. It is a contradiction in terms.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    Jews have a lot of different looks. I think he looks like a Sopranos extra.
    , @Clyde
    This jamoke/alleged Jew could be jaking it. There can be benefits depending on the situation. The situation is all important with Steve previously posting about this quite light Jewish/black combo gal astronomer or astrophysicist or astrologer who is a professional black person w bennies as in affirmative action.

    Chanda PressedDuck-Weinstein

    , @Anon
    "More interestingly being a gay orthodox jew is impossible. It is a contradiction in terms."

    Who died and made you Jew Pope?
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  7. Lot says:
    @Moshe
    I noticed his name and looked at his pic and he's definitely not of the same genetic stock as most jews. More interestingly being a gay orthodox jew is impossible. It is a contradiction in terms.

    Jews have a lot of different looks. I think he looks like a Sopranos extra.

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  8. JohnnyD says:

    It’s hard to believe that this is the same state that Nixon and Reagan won twice…

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    • Replies: @Francis G.
    It isn't. I don't even recognize the place anymore. It might as well be a foreign country now.
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  9. but Ms. Ellis has refused to concede, claiming voting improprieties, like permitting ineligible people to vote for Mr. Bauman.

    So, Democrats only believe in ineligible voters when they vote against Democrats?

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  10. Clyde says:
    @Moshe
    I noticed his name and looked at his pic and he's definitely not of the same genetic stock as most jews. More interestingly being a gay orthodox jew is impossible. It is a contradiction in terms.

    This jamoke/alleged Jew could be jaking it. There can be benefits depending on the situation. The situation is all important with Steve previously posting about this quite light Jewish/black combo gal astronomer or astrophysicist or astrologer who is a professional black person w bennies as in affirmative action.

    Chanda PressedDuck-Weinstein

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  11. Twinkie says:
    @FJ
    Off topic: It seems to me that this New Yorker article about affirmative action contains the seeds of developing conventional wisdom, namely that racial preferences are fine in the land of opportunity so long as they mostly hurt white people. Market dominant minorities like Jeannie Suk Gersen know how their bread is going to be buttered.

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-affirmative-action-and-asian-americans

    1. I was disgusted by the willful blindness of that piece as well as the “let’s take more from the evil whitey” conclusion.

    2. I think she’s Korean. Koreans, unlike Chinese and Indians, don’t have a history of being market-dominant minorities unless you count dry cleaners and imported hair for black women (or the West Point).

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    Don't forget the Korean golf angle!
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  12. Twinkie says:
    @Sunbeam
    "In contrast, California’s emerging tidal wave of Latino and Asian voters is said to be represented by Ms. Ellis, who is black."

    That sounds real good and seems like an obvious thing to write - if you are a white, liberal op-ed writer on the right side of history.

    But if you are a Black, Latino, or Asian voter does it really work that way?

    My take is black politicians in California are doomed. When it becomes obvious that people like Jerry Brown or Feinstein aren't viable in statewide races, I imagine that is about the same time Kamala Harris and Kimberly Ellis aren't viable either.

    That sounds real good and seems like an obvious thing to write – if you are a white, liberal op-ed writer on the right side of history

    It’s not just liberals. A lot of Alt-righters think blacks and Asians will be buddies to screw the white man. Because, frankly, they want whites to be isolated, so they can purity-spiral.

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    I would prefer that blacks and Asians not buddy up to screw the white man, but at least in this century, Asian voting habits, as well as their opinion polling, and what seems to be an increasing number of SJWs coming out of their camp, give me little reason to expect otherwise. But I'd be glad to hear of some reasons why I should take a more optimistic view.
    , @EriK
    I respect your opinion, but I don't get this:

    A lot of Alt-righters think blacks and Asians will be buddies to screw the white man.
     
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  13. Better make that the Big Six. Who can forget California House Speaker, Mayor of San Francisco, and all around political fixer Willie Brown?!?

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Sen. Kamala Harris is trying to get people to forget that she launched her glittering political career by taking a position under Willie Brown: prone.
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  14. @FJ
    Off topic: It seems to me that this New Yorker article about affirmative action contains the seeds of developing conventional wisdom, namely that racial preferences are fine in the land of opportunity so long as they mostly hurt white people. Market dominant minorities like Jeannie Suk Gersen know how their bread is going to be buttered.

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-affirmative-action-and-asian-americans

    This lady is brutal. She has issues with Asians and with non-Jewish whites.

    I noticed on her Wiki page that her two marriages are to Jewish guys. Basically, she thinks Asians need to be more creative – like her, of course – and that goys are Nazis.

    Give her credit. She knows who runs the show and how they run the show, so she’s joined them.

    The debate stage is done. Whites will never “win” the argument with people like this. It’s become quite clear that we’re back at the stage where the strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must.

    This woman and all of the others are out for power, and they’re using it. Whites still think that this is a debate tournament when it’s a brawl. Either we figure that out or we perish – and, frankly, if we can’t figure it out, we should perish. At the moment, we’re a silly, weak people.

    We were pretty awesome for a very long time, so I’m not counting us out yet, but it doesn’t look good at the moment.

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    This lady is brutal. She has issues with Asians and with non-Jewish whites.

    I noticed on her Wiki page that her two marriages are to Jewish guys. Basically, she thinks Asians need to be more creative – like her, of course – and that goys are Nazis.

     

    Truly a shenmu without equal. Confirming Sailer's law of female journalism by a slight tangent, her article merely proves how awesome she is.
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  15. @James Richard
    Better make that the Big Six. Who can forget California House Speaker, Mayor of San Francisco, and all around political fixer Willie Brown?!?

    Sen. Kamala Harris is trying to get people to forget that she launched her glittering political career by taking a position under Willie Brown: prone.

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    • Replies: @Foreign Expert
    Supine?
    , @Desiderius
    The entire populace of the great state of California have been in a similar position for many of the last 40 years.
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  16. FJ says:
    @Twinkie

    That sounds real good and seems like an obvious thing to write – if you are a white, liberal op-ed writer on the right side of history
     
    It's not just liberals. A lot of Alt-righters think blacks and Asians will be buddies to screw the white man. Because, frankly, they want whites to be isolated, so they can purity-spiral.

    I would prefer that blacks and Asians not buddy up to screw the white man, but at least in this century, Asian voting habits, as well as their opinion polling, and what seems to be an increasing number of SJWs coming out of their camp, give me little reason to expect otherwise. But I’d be glad to hear of some reasons why I should take a more optimistic view.

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    http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2017/08/generation-zyklons-white-guys-favored.html

    Of all of the minorities, Asians favored red the highest, with Asian males actually favoring Trump in a very slight majority. By and large, I always thought it was ridiculous whenever Asians turn SJW, and its usually the women who always seeking to be the holiest and most virtuous.
    , @Marty T
    Asians will mostly join the anti white brigade because they see it as their path to get ahead in the mostly liberal areas where they live.
    , @Twinkie

    I would prefer that blacks and Asians not buddy up to screw the white man
     
    It has nothing to do with YOUR preference. It just goes against history and facts. The mutual suspicion, incomprehension, and perhaps even contempt between blacks and Asians are greater than those between blacks and whites. The only people who think that ALL nonwhites are out to screw whites are moronic people who WANT whites to be isolated (because they want things to get worse) and those who know better but are selling something to the gullible, the angry, and the alienated.

    but at least in this century, Asian voting habits, as well as their opinion polling, and what seems to be an increasing number of SJWs coming out of their camp, give me little reason to expect otherwise.
     
    It seems to me that you haven't read much of "Asian voting habits... opinion polling," etc.

    But I’d be glad to hear of some reasons why I should take a more optimistic view.
     
    There is no freebie in life. Things are a mixed bag. There are causes for optimism as well as those for pessimism. I list some of each below:

    Some causes for optimism about Asians:

    1. There is simply little, if any, evidence of anti-white hatred or resentment among Asians in general, certainly not the way there are among, say, blacks. Although no direct polling on this exists, numerous proxy measures - intermarriage rates, education, housing, and social network patterns, etc. demonstrate that Asians comfortably intermix with whites in ways blacks (and even Hispanics) do not and show no sign of doing.

    2. High intermarriage rates. Asians intermarry with whites at very high rates. Some groups (e.g. Koreans) do so at EXTREMELY high rates, and not just for women. Ties of marriage and family as well as mixed offspring tend to produce concentric loyalties, not divided ones.

    3. High identification with whites. Offspring of white-Asian mixes, unlike white-Hispanic and white-black ones, identify as whites (the actual polling shows that they do not identify as Asians, which de facto means identification as whites) at very high rates. Even first-generation Asians tend not to identify as Asians (again, in effect it means they identify as whites) at higher rates than, say, first-generation Hispanics.

    4. English monolingualism. American-born Asians quickly lose the ability to speak the language of their immigrant forbears. They become monolingual English-speakers rapidly, unlike Hispanics. This bodes very well for their assimilation into white cultural norms.

    5. Religious Asians. The Pew study on Asians in America shows that religious, specifically Christian, Asians overwhelmingly vote Republican. They also hold conservative views on prominent social issues such as homosexual marriage (transgender thing wasn't on the radar a few years ago when the study was done, but I suspect the attitude regarding it is similar to that toward homosexual marriage).

    6. Past history of supporting the GOP. In the early 90's, Asians frequently voted for "the white party" (the GOP) at higher rates than actual whites did. Even now, adroit local Republicans can win a majority of Asian voters (e.g. gubernatorial race in VA in 2009). It's not a given that Asians would vote for Democrats, especially on issues that are black-centric.



    7. Low party ID. Asian voting patterns even today are not firmly established. Asians tend to vote on issues, rather than out of party loyalty or identification. It means that they are "winnable."

    8. History of conflict with blacks. It's by now common knowledge that where there is black mass violence some Asian-owned store is burning. A political party that becomes hostage to the black agenda is HIGHLY unlikely to attract Asians.

    Now, it's obviously NOT all peaches and cream. Here are some factors that militate against optimism:

    1. Asian demographics. This is a big one. The most pro-Republican (proxy for pro-white) Asians have been Koreans, Vietnamese, and Filipinos. But the fastest growing Asian group today is Indian (South Asian), who overwhelmingly (usually 90-10) vote against Republicans. They are also the least likely among Asians to be Christian and, per the Manhattan Institute study on assimilation, display the lowest rates of assimilation among major immigrant groups. As the most educated and financially successful Asian immigrant group, they show every indication of voting like liberal Jews and being a "market-dominant minority." The demographic changes among "Asians" in the U.S. are a multiple-whammy.

    2. Declining intermarriage. Among Asians, Indians also display the lowest rates of intermarriage with whites and, even setting them aside, the large increase in the number of Asians in general through immigration will depress intermarriage with whites, not a positive outcome for building concentric loyalties and which likely will engender greater tribalism.

    3. Indoctrination by mainstream and elite institutions. There is relentless indoctrination against traditional mores, patriotism, and non-Jewish whites in the mainstream media, educational system, and elite institutions. This takes a toll, especially on a group that still contains a high fraction of first- and second-generation arrivals who seek acceptance by the society at large.

    4. Rise of white nationalism. Asians tend to "fall in line" with whites when the latter are confident and sunny (of their place in the society and in their culture), and are assimilative ("Be loyal to the country, speak English, be productive, and you can be one of us"). But explicit "we don't accept nonwhites" ideologies will find no support among them for the obvious self-preservation reason. As non-Jewish whites are increasingly marginalized, white nationalism will likely gather greater support, and this will make finding common grounds between whites and Asians more difficult, despite their shared interests. Most Asians would rather live amongst and side with whites than with blacks if they had a choice. But if there is explicit rejection from whites, they can only go elsewhere despite their own preferences.

    These are not exhaustive, but probably cover most of the ground on both pro's and con's.
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  17. Lot says:

    The SJW, funded in part by the rich and far-left Cal nurse union, have been trying to pass a single payer law that has no possible way to fund.

    http://khn.org/news/tab-for-single-payer-proposal-in-california-could-run-400-billion/

    The estimate is that we’d need a 15% payroll tax on top of our state income tax that goes up to 9.4% for people in the 100-200k range.

    Of course that even would not pay for it. Get an expensive cancer in Mexico or Texas? Move in with your sister in Fresno and get $200,000 in treatment for free!

    But the Berniecrats and other far lefties keep are waging Jihad on democrats who won’t pass this. Normally Dem politicians can safely vote for this lunacy knowing that the GOP would block it at one of their veto points, but now those do not exist.

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  18. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Moshe
    I noticed his name and looked at his pic and he's definitely not of the same genetic stock as most jews. More interestingly being a gay orthodox jew is impossible. It is a contradiction in terms.

    “More interestingly being a gay orthodox jew is impossible. It is a contradiction in terms.”

    Who died and made you Jew Pope?

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    • Replies: @Moshe
    I hate stupid people who don't know how stupid they are.

    Listen here Einstein: A man can call himself a woman but he is NOT a woman unless their brand new definition of the word "woman" becomes more accepted. As of now however a person with a penis may call himself a woman but he is not one. When the libtards successfully succeed in changing the common definition in accordance with their preferred one then yes, a penis-enabled man can be considered "a woman".

    Same too, dingbat who doesn't know his place, the term "Orthodox Jew" which means "Shulchan-Aruch-following-Jew" is one that precludes being a buggerer. That is how the term has been used for as long as either the term - or the concept - has been in existence.

    So, sure, you ca call yourself an Orthodox Jew and pray to Jesus, or bigger your boyfriend or keep the Sabbath on Tuesday but then, by the up-till-now definition of the term, you are not an Orthodox Jew.

    I wish intellectual mush people knew their place and didn't intrude into the conversations of their superiors.
    , @kaganovitch
    The point is, "Orthodoxy" ,is an empirical question. Orthodoxy prohibits homosexual relations.
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  19. Count me as being for Ellis. I’m sick of these white Democrats who urge on white dispossession while hanging onto their turf.

    If you live in an area where the Democratic candidate is a mortal lock, vote in their primary. Vote against Jewish, white and/or male. Vote in favor of Muslim, black and/or female.

    These lefty Jews have been pushing diversity up our ass for 50+, destroying our nation but expecting to keep their lofty position–surfing atop the dung heap. I say knock ‘em off. They wanted “diversity”, then bend over stale pale male and take it good and hard.

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    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
    The same could be said for voting for "conservative" parties and candidates as well.

    So you won't stand up for what we voted you in for cuck? Fine, we'll vote for the wackiest, furthest left candidate on the ballot. You're forcing us to accept diversity? How about some (real) communism to fuck up your business interests?
    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep. On the occasional times that I comment on MSM sites, I now push the logical conclusion to diversity and advocate that whites should be pushed out of the at least half of the main roles in the Democratic Party and elsewhere.

    Those white lefties just about lose their shit. It's fun to watch them backtrack.

    Of course, conservatives are no better. Both sides belong to the same church. But at least conservatives aren't pushing diversity as much, but they're no better than the Dems in the end. Same destination, just different speed.
    , @James Richard
    Having lived my entire voting life in deep Democrat territory in states that cast their primary ballots very late that's more or less what I do starting with Shirley Chisholm and Ron Dellums in 1972 . I don't eschew voting for white males as long as they are sufficiently left-wing. The Dems are still gnashing their teeth over votes for Nader in 2000. I considered my voting as primarily an exercise of spreading disruption in the enemy camp. Plus radicals are almost always more charming and amusing characters than mainstream establishment droids.
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  20. @AnotherDad
    Count me as being for Ellis. I'm sick of these white Democrats who urge on white dispossession while hanging onto their turf.

    If you live in an area where the Democratic candidate is a mortal lock, vote in their primary. Vote against Jewish, white and/or male. Vote in favor of Muslim, black and/or female.

    These lefty Jews have been pushing diversity up our ass for 50+, destroying our nation but expecting to keep their lofty position--surfing atop the dung heap. I say knock 'em off. They wanted "diversity", then bend over stale pale male and take it good and hard.

    The same could be said for voting for “conservative” parties and candidates as well.

    So you won’t stand up for what we voted you in for cuck? Fine, we’ll vote for the wackiest, furthest left candidate on the ballot. You’re forcing us to accept diversity? How about some (real) communism to fuck up your business interests?

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    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Already there. I've now moved to the "tear it all down" stage. The faster, the better.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Cutting off your nose to spite your face? No thanks. You have mistaken the intent, application and effect of what @AnotherDad wrote.
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  21. Politics, n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. AMBROSE BIERCE (1842-1914), The Devil’s Dictionary, 1881-1914.

    I found this quote among Laird Wilcox’s ‘Degeneration of Belief’ collection of quotes – http://www.lairdwilcox.com/belief/belief.html – essential reading.

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  22. @AnotherDad
    Count me as being for Ellis. I'm sick of these white Democrats who urge on white dispossession while hanging onto their turf.

    If you live in an area where the Democratic candidate is a mortal lock, vote in their primary. Vote against Jewish, white and/or male. Vote in favor of Muslim, black and/or female.

    These lefty Jews have been pushing diversity up our ass for 50+, destroying our nation but expecting to keep their lofty position--surfing atop the dung heap. I say knock 'em off. They wanted "diversity", then bend over stale pale male and take it good and hard.

    Yep. On the occasional times that I comment on MSM sites, I now push the logical conclusion to diversity and advocate that whites should be pushed out of the at least half of the main roles in the Democratic Party and elsewhere.

    Those white lefties just about lose their shit. It’s fun to watch them backtrack.

    Of course, conservatives are no better. Both sides belong to the same church. But at least conservatives aren’t pushing diversity as much, but they’re no better than the Dems in the end. Same destination, just different speed.

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    Of course, conservatives are no better. Both sides belong to the same church. But at least conservatives aren’t pushing diversity as much, but they’re no better than the Dems in the end. Same destination, just different speed.
     
    No better? Really? Are the states run be Republican governors better than those run by Democrats? Come on, your assertion doesn't pass even a peripheral-vision-of-a-cursory-first-glance-of-a-fleeting-image test. Your claim is meritless.

    The worst governed polities in America are governed by Democrats, all of whom are "progressives." And the best governed polities in America are all governed by Republicans.

    Keep your self-destructive notions out of the public square. Shooting allies is no way to win a war.
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  23. @Johnny Smoggins
    The same could be said for voting for "conservative" parties and candidates as well.

    So you won't stand up for what we voted you in for cuck? Fine, we'll vote for the wackiest, furthest left candidate on the ballot. You're forcing us to accept diversity? How about some (real) communism to fuck up your business interests?

    Already there. I’ve now moved to the “tear it all down” stage. The faster, the better.

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  24. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    This lady is brutal. She has issues with Asians and with non-Jewish whites.

    I noticed on her Wiki page that her two marriages are to Jewish guys. Basically, she thinks Asians need to be more creative - like her, of course - and that goys are Nazis.

    Give her credit. She knows who runs the show and how they run the show, so she's joined them.

    The debate stage is done. Whites will never "win" the argument with people like this. It's become quite clear that we're back at the stage where the strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must.

    This woman and all of the others are out for power, and they're using it. Whites still think that this is a debate tournament when it's a brawl. Either we figure that out or we perish - and, frankly, if we can't figure it out, we should perish. At the moment, we're a silly, weak people.

    We were pretty awesome for a very long time, so I'm not counting us out yet, but it doesn't look good at the moment.

    This lady is brutal. She has issues with Asians and with non-Jewish whites.

    I noticed on her Wiki page that her two marriages are to Jewish guys. Basically, she thinks Asians need to be more creative – like her, of course – and that goys are Nazis.

    Truly a shenmu without equal. Confirming Sailer’s law of female journalism by a slight tangent, her article merely proves how awesome she is.

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  25. @FJ
    I would prefer that blacks and Asians not buddy up to screw the white man, but at least in this century, Asian voting habits, as well as their opinion polling, and what seems to be an increasing number of SJWs coming out of their camp, give me little reason to expect otherwise. But I'd be glad to hear of some reasons why I should take a more optimistic view.

    http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2017/08/generation-zyklons-white-guys-favored.html

    Of all of the minorities, Asians favored red the highest, with Asian males actually favoring Trump in a very slight majority. By and large, I always thought it was ridiculous whenever Asians turn SJW, and its usually the women who always seeking to be the holiest and most virtuous.

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    Too bad these young Asian females don't have the no-BS common sense view of the world that their mothers have (had). I'm sure that 50-something Korean women overseeing a convenience store or dry cleaner will have a very sober view of NAMs. Do these young East Asian women really think things will be hunky-dory when whites are a smaller and smaller minority? Do they think a highly-developed society America just happened by chance? Do they think the wild-ass prosperity just happened and will just continue magically?
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  26. Marty T says:
    @FJ
    I would prefer that blacks and Asians not buddy up to screw the white man, but at least in this century, Asian voting habits, as well as their opinion polling, and what seems to be an increasing number of SJWs coming out of their camp, give me little reason to expect otherwise. But I'd be glad to hear of some reasons why I should take a more optimistic view.

    Asians will mostly join the anti white brigade because they see it as their path to get ahead in the mostly liberal areas where they live.

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    Asians will mostly join the anti white brigade because they see it as their path to get ahead in the mostly liberal areas where they live.
     
    When elite whites stop being anti-whites (at least rhetorically), what few anti-white Asians there are will also stop.

    You are asking a lot for the most politically feeble minority group to go against the mainstream and elite norms, in which white thought-leaders compete to display just how much more virtuous (e.g. "against white privilege and oppression") they are compared to other whites.

    Note that Asians are not highly politicized as, say, blacks are. Most just want to get good grades, work hard, and live their lives. They are not big on ideology and tend to conform to mainstream views.

    Still, the fact that a majority of surveyed Asian male "Z generation" supports Trump should tell you a lot about their preferences toward (or against) the dominant PC social norms/establishment.
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  27. @AnotherDad
    Count me as being for Ellis. I'm sick of these white Democrats who urge on white dispossession while hanging onto their turf.

    If you live in an area where the Democratic candidate is a mortal lock, vote in their primary. Vote against Jewish, white and/or male. Vote in favor of Muslim, black and/or female.

    These lefty Jews have been pushing diversity up our ass for 50+, destroying our nation but expecting to keep their lofty position--surfing atop the dung heap. I say knock 'em off. They wanted "diversity", then bend over stale pale male and take it good and hard.

    Having lived my entire voting life in deep Democrat territory in states that cast their primary ballots very late that’s more or less what I do starting with Shirley Chisholm and Ron Dellums in 1972 . I don’t eschew voting for white males as long as they are sufficiently left-wing. The Dems are still gnashing their teeth over votes for Nader in 2000. I considered my voting as primarily an exercise of spreading disruption in the enemy camp. Plus radicals are almost always more charming and amusing characters than mainstream establishment droids.

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  28. The lovely Kimberly Ellis has Indian (South Asian) facial features, just like Mindy Kaling and her mischievous and resourceful brother Vijay. Something is amiss here. Traditionally, California politicians have hailed from New York City. This is unacceptable!

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  29. @Johnny Smoggins
    The same could be said for voting for "conservative" parties and candidates as well.

    So you won't stand up for what we voted you in for cuck? Fine, we'll vote for the wackiest, furthest left candidate on the ballot. You're forcing us to accept diversity? How about some (real) communism to fuck up your business interests?

    Cutting off your nose to spite your face? No thanks. You have mistaken the intent, application and effect of what wrote.

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    Sure. If we just try a little harder this time, I'm sure ostensibly conservative politicians will right the ship.

    It's people like you that keep this farce going. In the absence of a true far right candidate, and I mean further right than Marine LePen, the best thing you can do is go for a Corbyn.
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  30. @Steve Sailer
    Sen. Kamala Harris is trying to get people to forget that she launched her glittering political career by taking a position under Willie Brown: prone.

    Supine?

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    Foreign Expert:

    "Prone" is much more appropriate than "supine" in discussing the Harris - Brown relationship.

    In the revered words of the late black leader Julian Bond: The only position for women in SNCC (Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee) is prone. (BTW, there was plenty of violence in SNCC.)

    I suspect that is why, either consciously or unconsciously, that Steve used "prone."
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  31. EriK says:
    @Twinkie

    That sounds real good and seems like an obvious thing to write – if you are a white, liberal op-ed writer on the right side of history
     
    It's not just liberals. A lot of Alt-righters think blacks and Asians will be buddies to screw the white man. Because, frankly, they want whites to be isolated, so they can purity-spiral.

    I respect your opinion, but I don’t get this:

    A lot of Alt-righters think blacks and Asians will be buddies to screw the white man.

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    I respect your opinion, but I don’t get this:

    A lot of Alt-righters think blacks and Asians will be buddies to screw the white man.
     

     
    A lot of Alt-right people seem to think ALL nonwhites (including blacks and Asians) resent and hate whites and therefore will team up to attack whites.

    Such people are either deranged, ill-informed (that's generous for "stupid") or are disingenuous (i.e. they know otherwise, but are selling something to a crowd that is receptive to that message).
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  32. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep. On the occasional times that I comment on MSM sites, I now push the logical conclusion to diversity and advocate that whites should be pushed out of the at least half of the main roles in the Democratic Party and elsewhere.

    Those white lefties just about lose their shit. It's fun to watch them backtrack.

    Of course, conservatives are no better. Both sides belong to the same church. But at least conservatives aren't pushing diversity as much, but they're no better than the Dems in the end. Same destination, just different speed.

    Of course, conservatives are no better. Both sides belong to the same church. But at least conservatives aren’t pushing diversity as much, but they’re no better than the Dems in the end. Same destination, just different speed.

    No better? Really? Are the states run be Republican governors better than those run by Democrats? Come on, your assertion doesn’t pass even a peripheral-vision-of-a-cursory-first-glance-of-a-fleeting-image test. Your claim is meritless.

    The worst governed polities in America are governed by Democrats, all of whom are “progressives.” And the best governed polities in America are all governed by Republicans.

    Keep your self-destructive notions out of the public square. Shooting allies is no way to win a war.

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  33. Ivy says:
    @Twinkie
    1. I was disgusted by the willful blindness of that piece as well as the "let's take more from the evil whitey" conclusion.

    2. I think she's Korean. Koreans, unlike Chinese and Indians, don't have a history of being market-dominant minorities unless you count dry cleaners and imported hair for black women (or the West Point).

    Don’t forget the Korean golf angle!

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    Don’t forget the Korean golf angle!
     
    Only among women. But since Koreans became rich enough to field decent-sized Olympic teams, they have been punching above their weight in international athletics. But that's not really about being minorities in other countries, let alone "market dominant" ones. They just happen to be the tallest and the most athletic Asians.
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  34. Whiskey says: • Website

    Women will always virtue signal and will always align themselves with whatever group of men have the lowest IQ collectively, have the highest level of personal violence collectively, and posture and engage in stupid violent destructive suicidal acts. If you think of most women as just this side of joining the Symbionese Liberation Army or the Manson Family, you’re not far wrong.

    So, yeah big surprise Asian women are joining Team Hillary! against the Deplorables. Hillary!

    However I figure Blacks have a lot going for them thus. They are the natural leaders of the anti-White male party, and will attract lots of women including critically, White women, to the anti-White male banner. What matters the most is chasing down the last White man into the weeds. That’s the whole point. Already we are having single payer in California, with the ability to pay for it at all. Math be racist. Also sexist. And homophobic.

    Remember all those Mexicans cheering OJ on his run to the border? Yeah I figure Blacks are the natural leadership cadre for anti-White California and America.

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  35. @Steve Sailer
    Sen. Kamala Harris is trying to get people to forget that she launched her glittering political career by taking a position under Willie Brown: prone.

    The entire populace of the great state of California have been in a similar position for many of the last 40 years.

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    Disagree. Bent over.
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  36. Twinkie says:
    @Ivy
    Don't forget the Korean golf angle!

    Don’t forget the Korean golf angle!

    Only among women. But since Koreans became rich enough to field decent-sized Olympic teams, they have been punching above their weight in international athletics. But that’s not really about being minorities in other countries, let alone “market dominant” ones. They just happen to be the tallest and the most athletic Asians.

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  37. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Daniel Chieh
    http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2017/08/generation-zyklons-white-guys-favored.html

    Of all of the minorities, Asians favored red the highest, with Asian males actually favoring Trump in a very slight majority. By and large, I always thought it was ridiculous whenever Asians turn SJW, and its usually the women who always seeking to be the holiest and most virtuous.

    Too bad these young Asian females don’t have the no-BS common sense view of the world that their mothers have (had). I’m sure that 50-something Korean women overseeing a convenience store or dry cleaner will have a very sober view of NAMs. Do these young East Asian women really think things will be hunky-dory when whites are a smaller and smaller minority? Do they think a highly-developed society America just happened by chance? Do they think the wild-ass prosperity just happened and will just continue magically?

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    Its the same kind of thinking that once thought that drugs would solve all of the world's problems. So yeah, magical thinking is truly powerful and persuasive. Plus it raises their power at the moment, so why not? Its the same type of thinking within China that causes a woman to claim that she is actually of Manchu extraction, therefore she feels microaggressed, and life is terribly difficult for how primitive and sexist Chinese society is. Then she gets NGO money and other women praise her, its all winning!
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  38. Off topic but my prediction is that Tom Cotton will become the 46th, 47th, or 48th POTUS.

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    Nah. Word inside the Beltway is he's as closeted as Mitch McConnell, though of course a much better man and more authentically conservative politician.
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  39. Twinkie says:
    @FJ
    I would prefer that blacks and Asians not buddy up to screw the white man, but at least in this century, Asian voting habits, as well as their opinion polling, and what seems to be an increasing number of SJWs coming out of their camp, give me little reason to expect otherwise. But I'd be glad to hear of some reasons why I should take a more optimistic view.

    I would prefer that blacks and Asians not buddy up to screw the white man

    It has nothing to do with YOUR preference. It just goes against history and facts. The mutual suspicion, incomprehension, and perhaps even contempt between blacks and Asians are greater than those between blacks and whites. The only people who think that ALL nonwhites are out to screw whites are moronic people who WANT whites to be isolated (because they want things to get worse) and those who know better but are selling something to the gullible, the angry, and the alienated.

    but at least in this century, Asian voting habits, as well as their opinion polling, and what seems to be an increasing number of SJWs coming out of their camp, give me little reason to expect otherwise.

    It seems to me that you haven’t read much of “Asian voting habits… opinion polling,” etc.

    But I’d be glad to hear of some reasons why I should take a more optimistic view.

    There is no freebie in life. Things are a mixed bag. There are causes for optimism as well as those for pessimism. I list some of each below:

    Some causes for optimism about Asians:

    1. There is simply little, if any, evidence of anti-white hatred or resentment among Asians in general, certainly not the way there are among, say, blacks. Although no direct polling on this exists, numerous proxy measures – intermarriage rates, education, housing, and social network patterns, etc. demonstrate that Asians comfortably intermix with whites in ways blacks (and even Hispanics) do not and show no sign of doing.

    2. High intermarriage rates. Asians intermarry with whites at very high rates. Some groups (e.g. Koreans) do so at EXTREMELY high rates, and not just for women. Ties of marriage and family as well as mixed offspring tend to produce concentric loyalties, not divided ones.

    3. High identification with whites. Offspring of white-Asian mixes, unlike white-Hispanic and white-black ones, identify as whites (the actual polling shows that they do not identify as Asians, which de facto means identification as whites) at very high rates. Even first-generation Asians tend not to identify as Asians (again, in effect it means they identify as whites) at higher rates than, say, first-generation Hispanics.

    4. English monolingualism. American-born Asians quickly lose the ability to speak the language of their immigrant forbears. They become monolingual English-speakers rapidly, unlike Hispanics. This bodes very well for their assimilation into white cultural norms.

    5. Religious Asians. The Pew study on Asians in America shows that religious, specifically Christian, Asians overwhelmingly vote Republican. They also hold conservative views on prominent social issues such as homosexual marriage (transgender thing wasn’t on the radar a few years ago when the study was done, but I suspect the attitude regarding it is similar to that toward homosexual marriage).

    6. Past history of supporting the GOP. In the early 90′s, Asians frequently voted for “the white party” (the GOP) at higher rates than actual whites did. Even now, adroit local Republicans can win a majority of Asian voters (e.g. gubernatorial race in VA in 2009). It’s not a given that Asians would vote for Democrats, especially on issues that are black-centric.

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    7. Low party ID. Asian voting patterns even today are not firmly established. Asians tend to vote on issues, rather than out of party loyalty or identification. It means that they are “winnable.”

    8. History of conflict with blacks. It’s by now common knowledge that where there is black mass violence some Asian-owned store is burning. A political party that becomes hostage to the black agenda is HIGHLY unlikely to attract Asians.

    Now, it’s obviously NOT all peaches and cream. Here are some factors that militate against optimism:

    1. Asian demographics. This is a big one. The most pro-Republican (proxy for pro-white) Asians have been Koreans, Vietnamese, and Filipinos. But the fastest growing Asian group today is Indian (South Asian), who overwhelmingly (usually 90-10) vote against Republicans. They are also the least likely among Asians to be Christian and, per the Manhattan Institute study on assimilation, display the lowest rates of assimilation among major immigrant groups. As the most educated and financially successful Asian immigrant group, they show every indication of voting like liberal Jews and being a “market-dominant minority.” The demographic changes among “Asians” in the U.S. are a multiple-whammy.

    2. Declining intermarriage. Among Asians, Indians also display the lowest rates of intermarriage with whites and, even setting them aside, the large increase in the number of Asians in general through immigration will depress intermarriage with whites, not a positive outcome for building concentric loyalties and which likely will engender greater tribalism.

    3. Indoctrination by mainstream and elite institutions. There is relentless indoctrination against traditional mores, patriotism, and non-Jewish whites in the mainstream media, educational system, and elite institutions. This takes a toll, especially on a group that still contains a high fraction of first- and second-generation arrivals who seek acceptance by the society at large.

    4. Rise of white nationalism. Asians tend to “fall in line” with whites when the latter are confident and sunny (of their place in the society and in their culture), and are assimilative (“Be loyal to the country, speak English, be productive, and you can be one of us”). But explicit “we don’t accept nonwhites” ideologies will find no support among them for the obvious self-preservation reason. As non-Jewish whites are increasingly marginalized, white nationalism will likely gather greater support, and this will make finding common grounds between whites and Asians more difficult, despite their shared interests. Most Asians would rather live amongst and side with whites than with blacks if they had a choice. But if there is explicit rejection from whites, they can only go elsewhere despite their own preferences.

    These are not exhaustive, but probably cover most of the ground on both pro’s and con’s.

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    Good summary but I would point out that in politics Japanese Americans in California and especially Hawaii still vote mostly Democratic.
    , @Johnny Smoggins
    An excellent, and as far as I can tell as a non American, accurate description of the situation with Asians in America. A couple of things I'd like to add;

    -(East) Asians, Orientals if you will, are notoriously conformist and since the zeitgeist of the times is to be anti White, the young will go along with it.

    -you're right about sub continentals. Experience in both Canada and the U.K. has shown that they isolate themselves, have disdain for the natives and tend to work as a group to advance themselves at the expense of the host culture. I'm really not sure who thought it was a good idea to allow them in in the first place. When you add in Islam, they become absolutely toxic.
    , @FJ
    This is a relatively accurate summary, and I'm aware of all these facts.

    So we agree that East Asians could plausibly be brought around (although apparently not even for pretty boy Romney) by attaching Democrats to black issues, while South Asian immigrants and their offspring (who are a growing proportion of annual inflows) are much more likely to be anti-white.
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  40. Dan Hayes says:
    @Foreign Expert
    Supine?

    Foreign Expert:

    “Prone” is much more appropriate than “supine” in discussing the Harris – Brown relationship.

    In the revered words of the late black leader Julian Bond: The only position for women in SNCC (Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee) is prone. (BTW, there was plenty of violence in SNCC.)

    I suspect that is why, either consciously or unconsciously, that Steve used “prone.”

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    Yeah, I remember the SNCC quote.
    , @Art Deco
    IIRC, it wasn't Julian Bond who said that. It was Stokely Carmichael, Rap Brown, or Eldridge Cleaver. (I cannot recall which). It's referenced in Elaine Morgan's The Descent of Woman.
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  41. @Dan Hayes
    Foreign Expert:

    "Prone" is much more appropriate than "supine" in discussing the Harris - Brown relationship.

    In the revered words of the late black leader Julian Bond: The only position for women in SNCC (Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee) is prone. (BTW, there was plenty of violence in SNCC.)

    I suspect that is why, either consciously or unconsciously, that Steve used "prone."

    Yeah, I remember the SNCC quote.

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  42. Twinkie says:
    @EriK
    I respect your opinion, but I don't get this:

    A lot of Alt-righters think blacks and Asians will be buddies to screw the white man.
     

    I respect your opinion, but I don’t get this:

    A lot of Alt-righters think blacks and Asians will be buddies to screw the white man.

    A lot of Alt-right people seem to think ALL nonwhites (including blacks and Asians) resent and hate whites and therefore will team up to attack whites.

    Such people are either deranged, ill-informed (that’s generous for “stupid”) or are disingenuous (i.e. they know otherwise, but are selling something to a crowd that is receptive to that message).

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  43. @Twinkie

    I would prefer that blacks and Asians not buddy up to screw the white man
     
    It has nothing to do with YOUR preference. It just goes against history and facts. The mutual suspicion, incomprehension, and perhaps even contempt between blacks and Asians are greater than those between blacks and whites. The only people who think that ALL nonwhites are out to screw whites are moronic people who WANT whites to be isolated (because they want things to get worse) and those who know better but are selling something to the gullible, the angry, and the alienated.

    but at least in this century, Asian voting habits, as well as their opinion polling, and what seems to be an increasing number of SJWs coming out of their camp, give me little reason to expect otherwise.
     
    It seems to me that you haven't read much of "Asian voting habits... opinion polling," etc.

    But I’d be glad to hear of some reasons why I should take a more optimistic view.
     
    There is no freebie in life. Things are a mixed bag. There are causes for optimism as well as those for pessimism. I list some of each below:

    Some causes for optimism about Asians:

    1. There is simply little, if any, evidence of anti-white hatred or resentment among Asians in general, certainly not the way there are among, say, blacks. Although no direct polling on this exists, numerous proxy measures - intermarriage rates, education, housing, and social network patterns, etc. demonstrate that Asians comfortably intermix with whites in ways blacks (and even Hispanics) do not and show no sign of doing.

    2. High intermarriage rates. Asians intermarry with whites at very high rates. Some groups (e.g. Koreans) do so at EXTREMELY high rates, and not just for women. Ties of marriage and family as well as mixed offspring tend to produce concentric loyalties, not divided ones.

    3. High identification with whites. Offspring of white-Asian mixes, unlike white-Hispanic and white-black ones, identify as whites (the actual polling shows that they do not identify as Asians, which de facto means identification as whites) at very high rates. Even first-generation Asians tend not to identify as Asians (again, in effect it means they identify as whites) at higher rates than, say, first-generation Hispanics.

    4. English monolingualism. American-born Asians quickly lose the ability to speak the language of their immigrant forbears. They become monolingual English-speakers rapidly, unlike Hispanics. This bodes very well for their assimilation into white cultural norms.

    5. Religious Asians. The Pew study on Asians in America shows that religious, specifically Christian, Asians overwhelmingly vote Republican. They also hold conservative views on prominent social issues such as homosexual marriage (transgender thing wasn't on the radar a few years ago when the study was done, but I suspect the attitude regarding it is similar to that toward homosexual marriage).

    6. Past history of supporting the GOP. In the early 90's, Asians frequently voted for "the white party" (the GOP) at higher rates than actual whites did. Even now, adroit local Republicans can win a majority of Asian voters (e.g. gubernatorial race in VA in 2009). It's not a given that Asians would vote for Democrats, especially on issues that are black-centric.



    7. Low party ID. Asian voting patterns even today are not firmly established. Asians tend to vote on issues, rather than out of party loyalty or identification. It means that they are "winnable."

    8. History of conflict with blacks. It's by now common knowledge that where there is black mass violence some Asian-owned store is burning. A political party that becomes hostage to the black agenda is HIGHLY unlikely to attract Asians.

    Now, it's obviously NOT all peaches and cream. Here are some factors that militate against optimism:

    1. Asian demographics. This is a big one. The most pro-Republican (proxy for pro-white) Asians have been Koreans, Vietnamese, and Filipinos. But the fastest growing Asian group today is Indian (South Asian), who overwhelmingly (usually 90-10) vote against Republicans. They are also the least likely among Asians to be Christian and, per the Manhattan Institute study on assimilation, display the lowest rates of assimilation among major immigrant groups. As the most educated and financially successful Asian immigrant group, they show every indication of voting like liberal Jews and being a "market-dominant minority." The demographic changes among "Asians" in the U.S. are a multiple-whammy.

    2. Declining intermarriage. Among Asians, Indians also display the lowest rates of intermarriage with whites and, even setting them aside, the large increase in the number of Asians in general through immigration will depress intermarriage with whites, not a positive outcome for building concentric loyalties and which likely will engender greater tribalism.

    3. Indoctrination by mainstream and elite institutions. There is relentless indoctrination against traditional mores, patriotism, and non-Jewish whites in the mainstream media, educational system, and elite institutions. This takes a toll, especially on a group that still contains a high fraction of first- and second-generation arrivals who seek acceptance by the society at large.

    4. Rise of white nationalism. Asians tend to "fall in line" with whites when the latter are confident and sunny (of their place in the society and in their culture), and are assimilative ("Be loyal to the country, speak English, be productive, and you can be one of us"). But explicit "we don't accept nonwhites" ideologies will find no support among them for the obvious self-preservation reason. As non-Jewish whites are increasingly marginalized, white nationalism will likely gather greater support, and this will make finding common grounds between whites and Asians more difficult, despite their shared interests. Most Asians would rather live amongst and side with whites than with blacks if they had a choice. But if there is explicit rejection from whites, they can only go elsewhere despite their own preferences.

    These are not exhaustive, but probably cover most of the ground on both pro's and con's.

    Good summary but I would point out that in politics Japanese Americans in California and especially Hawaii still vote mostly Democratic.

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    in politics Japanese Americans in California and especially Hawaii still vote mostly Democratic.
     
    "Japanese" Americans nowadays are pretty white.
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  44. I just hope that the competing Democratic factions in California can agree on California secession from the United States.

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    @Marty T
    Asians will mostly join the anti white brigade because they see it as their path to get ahead in the mostly liberal areas where they live.

    Asians will mostly join the anti white brigade because they see it as their path to get ahead in the mostly liberal areas where they live.

    When elite whites stop being anti-whites (at least rhetorically), what few anti-white Asians there are will also stop.

    You are asking a lot for the most politically feeble minority group to go against the mainstream and elite norms, in which white thought-leaders compete to display just how much more virtuous (e.g. “against white privilege and oppression”) they are compared to other whites.

    Note that Asians are not highly politicized as, say, blacks are. Most just want to get good grades, work hard, and live their lives. They are not big on ideology and tend to conform to mainstream views.

    Still, the fact that a majority of surveyed Asian male “Z generation” supports Trump should tell you a lot about their preferences toward (or against) the dominant PC social norms/establishment.

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    "When elite whites stop being anti-whites (at least rhetorically), what few anti-white Asians there are will also stop."

    Absolutely true.

    The WASP hatred for, and WASP assumption of the inferiority of, non-WASP whites (say, Irish Catholics) is indispensable to all this. Jews from Eastern Europe picked up immediately that the more you trash Irish Catholics, Polish Catholics, Italian Catholics, Scots-Irish Southerners, devoutly Christian rural and small town midwesterners (who, appropriately, featured large swaths of Irish, Scottish, and Welsh origin surnames), tc, the more brownie points you get from the WASP Elites who controlled all the heights.

    Asians ape the WASP Elites of America, including in despising the vast majority of whites as inferior, just as they aped the WASP Elites of the British Empire.

    America's core underlying problem is a WASP problem. WASP culture was crystalized with the Puritan revolution, which featured Oliver Cromwell making THE deal: taking Jewish money and welcoming Jews into England in order to wage permanent war, at least culturally to exterminate languages and identities, against the VAST majority of British Isles natives.

    WASP culture has always been violently, culturally genocidally, anti-white.
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  46. Wilkey says:

    “The problem is not race-conscious holistic review; rather, it is the added, sub-rosa deployment of racial balancing in a manner that keeps the number of Asians so artificially low relative to whites who are less strong on academic measures.”

    This is where downplaying test scores may have merit. Do Asians do as well in society – culture, politics, science, business – as their current Ivy League presence would suggest?

    “We should not want the composition of our élite universities to be wildly out of proportion to the racial composition of our country.”

    “Our” elite universities? So West Point, UVA, Annapolis and…? Harvard is still a private institution, as are Yale, Princeton, Stanford, Duke, etc. Do private, (supposedly) charitable institutions no longer have any right whatsoever to decide how their money will be spent?

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  47. dearieme says:

    “Senator Harris launched her political career by assuming a position under Willie Brown, prone.”

    Are you quite certain she wasn’t supine?

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    Ask Stokely Carmichael.
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  48. @JohnnyD
    It's hard to believe that this is the same state that Nixon and Reagan won twice...

    It isn’t. I don’t even recognize the place anymore. It might as well be a foreign country now.

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  49. @dearieme
    "Senator Harris launched her political career by assuming a position under Willie Brown, prone."

    Are you quite certain she wasn't supine?

    Ask Stokely Carmichael.

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  50. Jake says:

    They will always manufacture a new James Damore.

    That is the reason that those who think eventually the Democrats will be forced to come to their senses are dead wrong. The Liberals will always be coalition of the fringes waging eternal war, at least cultural, against Middle America. Against whites who are not radical.

    That will stop only when the entire system caves in from its decadence and hypocrisy and fiscal incompetence.

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  51. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Cutting off your nose to spite your face? No thanks. You have mistaken the intent, application and effect of what @AnotherDad wrote.

    Sure. If we just try a little harder this time, I’m sure ostensibly conservative politicians will right the ship.

    It’s people like you that keep this farce going. In the absence of a true far right candidate, and I mean further right than Marine LePen, the best thing you can do is go for a Corbyn.

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  52. @Twinkie

    I would prefer that blacks and Asians not buddy up to screw the white man
     
    It has nothing to do with YOUR preference. It just goes against history and facts. The mutual suspicion, incomprehension, and perhaps even contempt between blacks and Asians are greater than those between blacks and whites. The only people who think that ALL nonwhites are out to screw whites are moronic people who WANT whites to be isolated (because they want things to get worse) and those who know better but are selling something to the gullible, the angry, and the alienated.

    but at least in this century, Asian voting habits, as well as their opinion polling, and what seems to be an increasing number of SJWs coming out of their camp, give me little reason to expect otherwise.
     
    It seems to me that you haven't read much of "Asian voting habits... opinion polling," etc.

    But I’d be glad to hear of some reasons why I should take a more optimistic view.
     
    There is no freebie in life. Things are a mixed bag. There are causes for optimism as well as those for pessimism. I list some of each below:

    Some causes for optimism about Asians:

    1. There is simply little, if any, evidence of anti-white hatred or resentment among Asians in general, certainly not the way there are among, say, blacks. Although no direct polling on this exists, numerous proxy measures - intermarriage rates, education, housing, and social network patterns, etc. demonstrate that Asians comfortably intermix with whites in ways blacks (and even Hispanics) do not and show no sign of doing.

    2. High intermarriage rates. Asians intermarry with whites at very high rates. Some groups (e.g. Koreans) do so at EXTREMELY high rates, and not just for women. Ties of marriage and family as well as mixed offspring tend to produce concentric loyalties, not divided ones.

    3. High identification with whites. Offspring of white-Asian mixes, unlike white-Hispanic and white-black ones, identify as whites (the actual polling shows that they do not identify as Asians, which de facto means identification as whites) at very high rates. Even first-generation Asians tend not to identify as Asians (again, in effect it means they identify as whites) at higher rates than, say, first-generation Hispanics.

    4. English monolingualism. American-born Asians quickly lose the ability to speak the language of their immigrant forbears. They become monolingual English-speakers rapidly, unlike Hispanics. This bodes very well for their assimilation into white cultural norms.

    5. Religious Asians. The Pew study on Asians in America shows that religious, specifically Christian, Asians overwhelmingly vote Republican. They also hold conservative views on prominent social issues such as homosexual marriage (transgender thing wasn't on the radar a few years ago when the study was done, but I suspect the attitude regarding it is similar to that toward homosexual marriage).

    6. Past history of supporting the GOP. In the early 90's, Asians frequently voted for "the white party" (the GOP) at higher rates than actual whites did. Even now, adroit local Republicans can win a majority of Asian voters (e.g. gubernatorial race in VA in 2009). It's not a given that Asians would vote for Democrats, especially on issues that are black-centric.



    7. Low party ID. Asian voting patterns even today are not firmly established. Asians tend to vote on issues, rather than out of party loyalty or identification. It means that they are "winnable."

    8. History of conflict with blacks. It's by now common knowledge that where there is black mass violence some Asian-owned store is burning. A political party that becomes hostage to the black agenda is HIGHLY unlikely to attract Asians.

    Now, it's obviously NOT all peaches and cream. Here are some factors that militate against optimism:

    1. Asian demographics. This is a big one. The most pro-Republican (proxy for pro-white) Asians have been Koreans, Vietnamese, and Filipinos. But the fastest growing Asian group today is Indian (South Asian), who overwhelmingly (usually 90-10) vote against Republicans. They are also the least likely among Asians to be Christian and, per the Manhattan Institute study on assimilation, display the lowest rates of assimilation among major immigrant groups. As the most educated and financially successful Asian immigrant group, they show every indication of voting like liberal Jews and being a "market-dominant minority." The demographic changes among "Asians" in the U.S. are a multiple-whammy.

    2. Declining intermarriage. Among Asians, Indians also display the lowest rates of intermarriage with whites and, even setting them aside, the large increase in the number of Asians in general through immigration will depress intermarriage with whites, not a positive outcome for building concentric loyalties and which likely will engender greater tribalism.

    3. Indoctrination by mainstream and elite institutions. There is relentless indoctrination against traditional mores, patriotism, and non-Jewish whites in the mainstream media, educational system, and elite institutions. This takes a toll, especially on a group that still contains a high fraction of first- and second-generation arrivals who seek acceptance by the society at large.

    4. Rise of white nationalism. Asians tend to "fall in line" with whites when the latter are confident and sunny (of their place in the society and in their culture), and are assimilative ("Be loyal to the country, speak English, be productive, and you can be one of us"). But explicit "we don't accept nonwhites" ideologies will find no support among them for the obvious self-preservation reason. As non-Jewish whites are increasingly marginalized, white nationalism will likely gather greater support, and this will make finding common grounds between whites and Asians more difficult, despite their shared interests. Most Asians would rather live amongst and side with whites than with blacks if they had a choice. But if there is explicit rejection from whites, they can only go elsewhere despite their own preferences.

    These are not exhaustive, but probably cover most of the ground on both pro's and con's.

    An excellent, and as far as I can tell as a non American, accurate description of the situation with Asians in America. A couple of things I’d like to add;

    -(East) Asians, Orientals if you will, are notoriously conformist and since the zeitgeist of the times is to be anti White, the young will go along with it.

    -you’re right about sub continentals. Experience in both Canada and the U.K. has shown that they isolate themselves, have disdain for the natives and tend to work as a group to advance themselves at the expense of the host culture. I’m really not sure who thought it was a good idea to allow them in in the first place. When you add in Islam, they become absolutely toxic.

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  53. Jake says:
    @Twinkie

    Asians will mostly join the anti white brigade because they see it as their path to get ahead in the mostly liberal areas where they live.
     
    When elite whites stop being anti-whites (at least rhetorically), what few anti-white Asians there are will also stop.

    You are asking a lot for the most politically feeble minority group to go against the mainstream and elite norms, in which white thought-leaders compete to display just how much more virtuous (e.g. "against white privilege and oppression") they are compared to other whites.

    Note that Asians are not highly politicized as, say, blacks are. Most just want to get good grades, work hard, and live their lives. They are not big on ideology and tend to conform to mainstream views.

    Still, the fact that a majority of surveyed Asian male "Z generation" supports Trump should tell you a lot about their preferences toward (or against) the dominant PC social norms/establishment.

    “When elite whites stop being anti-whites (at least rhetorically), what few anti-white Asians there are will also stop.”

    Absolutely true.

    The WASP hatred for, and WASP assumption of the inferiority of, non-WASP whites (say, Irish Catholics) is indispensable to all this. Jews from Eastern Europe picked up immediately that the more you trash Irish Catholics, Polish Catholics, Italian Catholics, Scots-Irish Southerners, devoutly Christian rural and small town midwesterners (who, appropriately, featured large swaths of Irish, Scottish, and Welsh origin surnames), tc, the more brownie points you get from the WASP Elites who controlled all the heights.

    Asians ape the WASP Elites of America, including in despising the vast majority of whites as inferior, just as they aped the WASP Elites of the British Empire.

    America’s core underlying problem is a WASP problem. WASP culture was crystalized with the Puritan revolution, which featured Oliver Cromwell making THE deal: taking Jewish money and welcoming Jews into England in order to wage permanent war, at least culturally to exterminate languages and identities, against the VAST majority of British Isles natives.

    WASP culture has always been violently, culturally genocidally, anti-white.

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    , @Twinkie
    I don't agree that this is a "WASP" problem.
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  54. Moshe says:
    @Anon
    "More interestingly being a gay orthodox jew is impossible. It is a contradiction in terms."

    Who died and made you Jew Pope?

    I hate stupid people who don’t know how stupid they are.

    Listen here Einstein: A man can call himself a woman but he is NOT a woman unless their brand new definition of the word “woman” becomes more accepted. As of now however a person with a penis may call himself a woman but he is not one. When the libtards successfully succeed in changing the common definition in accordance with their preferred one then yes, a penis-enabled man can be considered “a woman”.

    Same too, dingbat who doesn’t know his place, the term “Orthodox Jew” which means “Shulchan-Aruch-following-Jew” is one that precludes being a buggerer. That is how the term has been used for as long as either the term – or the concept – has been in existence.

    So, sure, you ca call yourself an Orthodox Jew and pray to Jesus, or bigger your boyfriend or keep the Sabbath on Tuesday but then, by the up-till-now definition of the term, you are not an Orthodox Jew.

    I wish intellectual mush people knew their place and didn’t intrude into the conversations of their superiors.

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  55. @Anonymous
    Too bad these young Asian females don't have the no-BS common sense view of the world that their mothers have (had). I'm sure that 50-something Korean women overseeing a convenience store or dry cleaner will have a very sober view of NAMs. Do these young East Asian women really think things will be hunky-dory when whites are a smaller and smaller minority? Do they think a highly-developed society America just happened by chance? Do they think the wild-ass prosperity just happened and will just continue magically?

    Its the same kind of thinking that once thought that drugs would solve all of the world’s problems. So yeah, magical thinking is truly powerful and persuasive. Plus it raises their power at the moment, so why not? Its the same type of thinking within China that causes a woman to claim that she is actually of Manchu extraction, therefore she feels microaggressed, and life is terribly difficult for how primitive and sexist Chinese society is. Then she gets NGO money and other women praise her, its all winning!

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  56. @Anon
    "More interestingly being a gay orthodox jew is impossible. It is a contradiction in terms."

    Who died and made you Jew Pope?

    The point is, “Orthodoxy” ,is an empirical question. Orthodoxy prohibits homosexual relations.

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  57. Art Deco says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Foreign Expert:

    "Prone" is much more appropriate than "supine" in discussing the Harris - Brown relationship.

    In the revered words of the late black leader Julian Bond: The only position for women in SNCC (Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee) is prone. (BTW, there was plenty of violence in SNCC.)

    I suspect that is why, either consciously or unconsciously, that Steve used "prone."

    IIRC, it wasn’t Julian Bond who said that. It was Stokely Carmichael, Rap Brown, or Eldridge Cleaver. (I cannot recall which). It’s referenced in Elaine Morgan’s The Descent of Woman.

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    It was Stokely Carmichael.

    Prone means lying on your stomach, though I doubt Carmichael knew that, unless he preferred the rear entrance. In the missionary position, the woman is supine.
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  58. @Art Deco
    IIRC, it wasn't Julian Bond who said that. It was Stokely Carmichael, Rap Brown, or Eldridge Cleaver. (I cannot recall which). It's referenced in Elaine Morgan's The Descent of Woman.

    It was Stokely Carmichael.

    Prone means lying on your stomach, though I doubt Carmichael knew that, unless he preferred the rear entrance. In the missionary position, the woman is supine.

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    At the risk of sounding like a radfem, I believe the implication had more to do with power differentials than sexual mechanics. Prone doesn't necessitate a rear entrance, though he may have been implying that he'd take whatever entrance he pleased.
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  59. @Jake
    "When elite whites stop being anti-whites (at least rhetorically), what few anti-white Asians there are will also stop."

    Absolutely true.

    The WASP hatred for, and WASP assumption of the inferiority of, non-WASP whites (say, Irish Catholics) is indispensable to all this. Jews from Eastern Europe picked up immediately that the more you trash Irish Catholics, Polish Catholics, Italian Catholics, Scots-Irish Southerners, devoutly Christian rural and small town midwesterners (who, appropriately, featured large swaths of Irish, Scottish, and Welsh origin surnames), tc, the more brownie points you get from the WASP Elites who controlled all the heights.

    Asians ape the WASP Elites of America, including in despising the vast majority of whites as inferior, just as they aped the WASP Elites of the British Empire.

    America's core underlying problem is a WASP problem. WASP culture was crystalized with the Puritan revolution, which featured Oliver Cromwell making THE deal: taking Jewish money and welcoming Jews into England in order to wage permanent war, at least culturally to exterminate languages and identities, against the VAST majority of British Isles natives.

    WASP culture has always been violently, culturally genocidally, anti-white.

    +1

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    It was Stokely Carmichael.

    Prone means lying on your stomach, though I doubt Carmichael knew that, unless he preferred the rear entrance. In the missionary position, the woman is supine.

    At the risk of sounding like a radfem, I believe the implication had more to do with power differentials than sexual mechanics. Prone doesn’t necessitate a rear entrance, though he may have been implying that he’d take whatever entrance he pleased.

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  61. In this 0ne-party state, Democrats would be clawing each other’s eyes out over who has more Diversity Pokemon Points if they couldn’t unify around hating the Real Menace, James Damore.

    Just before I read this, I was wondering why the memo was leaked.

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  62. FJ says:
    @Twinkie

    I would prefer that blacks and Asians not buddy up to screw the white man
     
    It has nothing to do with YOUR preference. It just goes against history and facts. The mutual suspicion, incomprehension, and perhaps even contempt between blacks and Asians are greater than those between blacks and whites. The only people who think that ALL nonwhites are out to screw whites are moronic people who WANT whites to be isolated (because they want things to get worse) and those who know better but are selling something to the gullible, the angry, and the alienated.

    but at least in this century, Asian voting habits, as well as their opinion polling, and what seems to be an increasing number of SJWs coming out of their camp, give me little reason to expect otherwise.
     
    It seems to me that you haven't read much of "Asian voting habits... opinion polling," etc.

    But I’d be glad to hear of some reasons why I should take a more optimistic view.
     
    There is no freebie in life. Things are a mixed bag. There are causes for optimism as well as those for pessimism. I list some of each below:

    Some causes for optimism about Asians:

    1. There is simply little, if any, evidence of anti-white hatred or resentment among Asians in general, certainly not the way there are among, say, blacks. Although no direct polling on this exists, numerous proxy measures - intermarriage rates, education, housing, and social network patterns, etc. demonstrate that Asians comfortably intermix with whites in ways blacks (and even Hispanics) do not and show no sign of doing.

    2. High intermarriage rates. Asians intermarry with whites at very high rates. Some groups (e.g. Koreans) do so at EXTREMELY high rates, and not just for women. Ties of marriage and family as well as mixed offspring tend to produce concentric loyalties, not divided ones.

    3. High identification with whites. Offspring of white-Asian mixes, unlike white-Hispanic and white-black ones, identify as whites (the actual polling shows that they do not identify as Asians, which de facto means identification as whites) at very high rates. Even first-generation Asians tend not to identify as Asians (again, in effect it means they identify as whites) at higher rates than, say, first-generation Hispanics.

    4. English monolingualism. American-born Asians quickly lose the ability to speak the language of their immigrant forbears. They become monolingual English-speakers rapidly, unlike Hispanics. This bodes very well for their assimilation into white cultural norms.

    5. Religious Asians. The Pew study on Asians in America shows that religious, specifically Christian, Asians overwhelmingly vote Republican. They also hold conservative views on prominent social issues such as homosexual marriage (transgender thing wasn't on the radar a few years ago when the study was done, but I suspect the attitude regarding it is similar to that toward homosexual marriage).

    6. Past history of supporting the GOP. In the early 90's, Asians frequently voted for "the white party" (the GOP) at higher rates than actual whites did. Even now, adroit local Republicans can win a majority of Asian voters (e.g. gubernatorial race in VA in 2009). It's not a given that Asians would vote for Democrats, especially on issues that are black-centric.



    7. Low party ID. Asian voting patterns even today are not firmly established. Asians tend to vote on issues, rather than out of party loyalty or identification. It means that they are "winnable."

    8. History of conflict with blacks. It's by now common knowledge that where there is black mass violence some Asian-owned store is burning. A political party that becomes hostage to the black agenda is HIGHLY unlikely to attract Asians.

    Now, it's obviously NOT all peaches and cream. Here are some factors that militate against optimism:

    1. Asian demographics. This is a big one. The most pro-Republican (proxy for pro-white) Asians have been Koreans, Vietnamese, and Filipinos. But the fastest growing Asian group today is Indian (South Asian), who overwhelmingly (usually 90-10) vote against Republicans. They are also the least likely among Asians to be Christian and, per the Manhattan Institute study on assimilation, display the lowest rates of assimilation among major immigrant groups. As the most educated and financially successful Asian immigrant group, they show every indication of voting like liberal Jews and being a "market-dominant minority." The demographic changes among "Asians" in the U.S. are a multiple-whammy.

    2. Declining intermarriage. Among Asians, Indians also display the lowest rates of intermarriage with whites and, even setting them aside, the large increase in the number of Asians in general through immigration will depress intermarriage with whites, not a positive outcome for building concentric loyalties and which likely will engender greater tribalism.

    3. Indoctrination by mainstream and elite institutions. There is relentless indoctrination against traditional mores, patriotism, and non-Jewish whites in the mainstream media, educational system, and elite institutions. This takes a toll, especially on a group that still contains a high fraction of first- and second-generation arrivals who seek acceptance by the society at large.

    4. Rise of white nationalism. Asians tend to "fall in line" with whites when the latter are confident and sunny (of their place in the society and in their culture), and are assimilative ("Be loyal to the country, speak English, be productive, and you can be one of us"). But explicit "we don't accept nonwhites" ideologies will find no support among them for the obvious self-preservation reason. As non-Jewish whites are increasingly marginalized, white nationalism will likely gather greater support, and this will make finding common grounds between whites and Asians more difficult, despite their shared interests. Most Asians would rather live amongst and side with whites than with blacks if they had a choice. But if there is explicit rejection from whites, they can only go elsewhere despite their own preferences.

    These are not exhaustive, but probably cover most of the ground on both pro's and con's.

    This is a relatively accurate summary, and I’m aware of all these facts.

    So we agree that East Asians could plausibly be brought around (although apparently not even for pretty boy Romney) by attaching Democrats to black issues, while South Asian immigrants and their offspring (who are a growing proportion of annual inflows) are much more likely to be anti-white.

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  63. @Prof. Woland
    Off topic but my prediction is that Tom Cotton will become the 46th, 47th, or 48th POTUS.

    Nah. Word inside the Beltway is he’s as closeted as Mitch McConnell, though of course a much better man and more authentically conservative politician.

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    Word inside the Beltway is he’s as closeted as Mitch McConnell...
     
    Really!? Who would do him? Lindsey Graham?

    Not that there's anything wrong with that. ;-)

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  64. @Desiderius
    The entire populace of the great state of California have been in a similar position for many of the last 40 years.

    Disagree. Bent over.

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  65. @The Man From K Street
    Nah. Word inside the Beltway is he's as closeted as Mitch McConnell, though of course a much better man and more authentically conservative politician.

    Word inside the Beltway is he’s as closeted as Mitch McConnell…

    Really!? Who would do him? Lindsey Graham?

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that. ;-)

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  66. Twinkie says:
    @Jake
    "When elite whites stop being anti-whites (at least rhetorically), what few anti-white Asians there are will also stop."

    Absolutely true.

    The WASP hatred for, and WASP assumption of the inferiority of, non-WASP whites (say, Irish Catholics) is indispensable to all this. Jews from Eastern Europe picked up immediately that the more you trash Irish Catholics, Polish Catholics, Italian Catholics, Scots-Irish Southerners, devoutly Christian rural and small town midwesterners (who, appropriately, featured large swaths of Irish, Scottish, and Welsh origin surnames), tc, the more brownie points you get from the WASP Elites who controlled all the heights.

    Asians ape the WASP Elites of America, including in despising the vast majority of whites as inferior, just as they aped the WASP Elites of the British Empire.

    America's core underlying problem is a WASP problem. WASP culture was crystalized with the Puritan revolution, which featured Oliver Cromwell making THE deal: taking Jewish money and welcoming Jews into England in order to wage permanent war, at least culturally to exterminate languages and identities, against the VAST majority of British Isles natives.

    WASP culture has always been violently, culturally genocidally, anti-white.

    I don’t agree that this is a “WASP” problem.

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    Good summary but I would point out that in politics Japanese Americans in California and especially Hawaii still vote mostly Democratic.

    in politics Japanese Americans in California and especially Hawaii still vote mostly Democratic.

    “Japanese” Americans nowadays are pretty white.

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    in politics Japanese Americans in California and especially Hawaii still vote mostly Democratic.
     
    "Japanese" Americans nowadays are pretty white.

    ASA/ASU(niversalist)?

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