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"Conspiracy Against Rights:" Are Masked Anti-Free Speech Thugs Breaking Federal Law?

From ABC News last February:

U.C. BERKELEY BLAMES ‘MASKED INDIVIDUALS’ FOR VIOLENCE

by Cornell Barnard
Friday, February 03, 2017

BERKELEY, Calif. (KGO) — Some call it a group, others call it a tactic but regardless, Black Bloc caused a lot of damage at U.C. Berkeley Wednesday.

RELATED: Police criticized for lack of action during Berkeley protests

Many blamed violent protests on campus on a small group of demonstrators and their military-style tactics.

Swarms of people dressed in black unleashed chaos on the campus, invading what was billed as a peaceful protest against right-wing commentator Milo Yiannopoulos.

“They asked Black Bloc to stay non-violent,” said U.C. Berkeley professor Katrin Wehrheim. She says student protesters made that request of the anti-fascist group, but it didn’t happen.

The group smashed windows, tossed smoke bombs, set fires and fought with police. The event was quickly canceled.

Student Chris Vinan said, “It was very organized and thought out.”

Most recently, Black Bloc has launched protests opposing Donald Trump.

From the U.S. legal code:

18 U.S. Code § 241 – Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or

If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 696; Pub. L. 90–284, title I, § 103(a), Apr. 11, 1968, 82 Stat. 75; Pub. L. 100–690, title VII, § 7018(a), (b)(1), Nov. 18, 1988, 102 Stat. 4396; Pub. L. 103–322, title VI, § 60006(a), title XXXII, §§ 320103(a), 320201(a), title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 1970, 2109, 2113, 2147; Pub. L. 104–294, title VI, §§ 604(b)(14)(A), 607(a), Oct. 11, 1996, 110 Stat. 3507, 3511.)

Attorney General Sessions should ask the mayor of Berkeley and the governor of California if they intend to enforce California’s law against masked intimidators and remind them of this federal law and his powers to protect the Constitutional civil rights of citizens and to sanction officials who fail to do so.

 
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  1. This has got be a false flag operation done by Trump and the alt right racists.

    It appears the benefactors: Milo who has gotten national publicity and will sell more books; President Trump from his tweets that the “left” doesn’t allow free speech (especially UC Berkeley (once) known as an epicenter for “free-speech”); professional–organized vandals who show up at peaceful protests around the east bay, enjoying prey and play. Those getting a “black eye” and a “kick in the butt,” aka the backlash: peaceful protesters with message lost; campus destruction costing $; local businesses that support Berkeley and who hire locals lost $; and let’s not forget us taxpayers who get the tab…

    Off topic:

    John Oliver DESTORYS Marine Le Pen

    Looks like she’s going to get frog stomped!

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    • Troll: jimbojones
    • Replies: @dr kill
    Who bitch this is? This is the same guy who told Teh Trumpster to bring it? Hahahahaha.
    , @Lord Jeff Sessions
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhQzvFyPfA
    , @Mokiki
    Milo is gay and enjoys BBC tops. You Antifa types should really like him for that.
    , @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    LOL. That's the far-left talking point. I was told the very same thing just a few weeks ago by a friend who is big in the Berkeley radical left scene: The Blackbloc has been infiltrated by pro-Trump people. That's who's doing all the violence. I guess it was pro-Bush people who were smashing Micky Dee's during the G8 conferences and similar.
    , @Mr. Anon
    John Oliver loudly proclaimed his desire for Donald Trump to run, thinking that his campaign would be an epic failure. John Oliver doesn't have a very good record at predicting things.
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  2. Right. The Trump administration will get to this right after they’ve stopped illegal immgration, deported the illegals already here, and stopped nation-building in the Middle East.

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  3. By the way, on the issue of who the real fascists are – these fine folks in the picture Steve posted are 100% grade A fascist squadristi straight from the old days.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackshirts

    The Duce, by the way, was a convinced and active member of the Socialist Party before he ever was the Duce.

    Imagine some trads tried to prevent Tim Cook or another person of similar public stature and private convictions from speaking at a major university. You’d never stop hearing about “Nazis” and “religious bigots” and so on. Meanwhile, people like Murray and his colleague aren’t even Trumpers.

    America does have a budding fascism problem. But, as with most things, it’s coming from direction opposite to the direction that the establishment is pointing at.

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    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Venator
    How unfair of the Left!
    , @whorefinder
    They're communists.

    Communism---the most evil, destructive, murderous ideology the world has seen yet---has reared it's ugly head again, as Satanic philosophies tend to do like hydras. And just all communists, they used violence to intimidate and shut down opposition.

    These folks are why communists were jailed, bashed, and deported in this nation and abroad since the 1920s. The Blacklist of Hollywood was totally justified in running those reds out of town and out of jobs for the evil they spewed.

    We need some more Red exclusionary laws and actions. All the old battles of the 1920s and 1940s-50s are back again. Let's pray we win it like we did in the 1920s and not lose it like we did in the 1950s---because that spawned the 60s and 70s and their muck.

    , @Mr. Anon

    By the way, on the issue of who the real fascists are – these fine folks in the picture Steve posted are 100% grade A fascist squadristi straight from the old days.
     
    No, they are communists of one stripe or another. Fascists bathe.

    The Duce, by the way, was a convinced and active member of the Socialist Party before he ever was the Duce.
     
    And before he became Il Duce, he stopped being a socialist, and started being a fascist. Just because Jonah Goldberg was confused about the political taxonomy of 20th century Europe, doesn't mean that you have to be too.
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    Steve, any thoughts on Steve Stephens? I think you’ve blogged before about the prevalence of the name Steve.

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    • Replies: @anon
    The FBI Special Agent In Charge of the case is Steve Anthony.

    Is Steve Stevens (of Billy Idol fame) the official guitar player of HBD? I've always liked that guy.
  5. Attorney General Jeff Sessions should go after the mayor of Berkeley for encouraging the rioting and lawlessness. The anti-free speech thugs need to be stopped.

    This isn’t just some right wing populist or White nationalist or libertarian issue. It seems from the video of the various Battles of Berkeley that many different kinds of law-abiding Americans have had their constitutional rights violated by the anti-free speech thugs. You could say that the only truly unifying thing the pro-free speech people have in common is their desire to exercise their right to engage in lawful assembly for the purpose of engaging in free speech.

    The beautiful lady who was pepper sprayed at the 1st Battle of Berkeley is a libertarian bitcoin enthusiast. The “based stick man” at the 2nd Battle of Berkeley who utilized a plywood shield and a lot of courage to defend his pro-free speech compatriots went out of his way to say that he is not a White nationalist. It was a patriotic motley crew of brave Americans who believe in free speech. These proud, patriotic Americans were viciously attacked by anti-free speech thugs who used violence to shut down speech that they didn’t like.

    Unfortunately, Battle of Berkeley historians are now engaged in a brawl over which battle is to carry which numerical battle appellation. These things sometimes rival in intensity the actual battles that draw blood and fracture bones. The events of April 15, 2017, are, of course, properly called the 3rd Battle of Berkeley.

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  6. Probably ITAR – Arson and Interstate Riot statutes apply as well. Maybe RICO as well to address the financiers. This never would have passed without massive FBI engagement in the Vietnam Era. Comey’s FBI today completely MIA, but it’s on Trump and its on Sessions. There is ample predicate. A phone call to Comey from either should do the trick, otherwise Comey should be told to get on the Acela for Wall Street, or wherever it was he came from.

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  7. I’m not sure, Steve. The time to for the state to crack down on them was years ago. Following anarcho-tyranny, the only people that would get arrested would be people on our side, while the black bloc scurries away.

    The tide is starting to turn and this might be the fight we need to have. Just think that a year ago these people would have scared off and intimidated any right-leaning group that would try to organize. The right has gathered, organized, fought back and kicked their ass. Now we want to bring the state in?

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  8. The fundamental problem is that the Berkeley city government has a policy of letting the black bloc beat up their conservative political opponents. The mayor has near zero political pressure to do otherwise because most of the Berkeley voters are fine with conservatives getting beatdowns for speaking.

    In a better world the Sessions DoJ would be in the grill of the Berkeley mayor and police, similar to the way they went after the Ferguson police. To state the obvious the media would be in a collective freakout right now if the Dallas TX mayor was allowing conservatives to beat up the people attending a liberal speech. It’s shameful.

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  9. It actually wouldn’t even take the Department of Justice to undertake a prosecution. Assistant U.S. Attorneys have a great deal of discretion to initiate prosecutions. But AUSAs in California are probably in general sympathy with the objectives and possibly even the tactics of Black Bloc. The Washington DC Department of Justice (Main Justice) also has the authority, but the career slots (Deputy Assistant Attorney Generals and below) at Main Justice are now staffed by the law school products of the 1980s and 1990s and I’m sure that they are both unenthusiastic about such prosecutions and able to raise all sorts of objections as to why prosecutions can’t be brought. The hell of it is, the objection of “lack of jury appeal” in the Berkely area is probably accurate.

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    • Replies: @Barnard
    Prosecuting this has to come from Trump/Sessions or else it won't happen. No one at lower levels would put his career at risk unless he knew the Trump Administration was going to back him up on this. Like you said, you wouldn't be able to get a conviction in Berkeley anyway, especially considering the police ask these groups if they want symbolic arrests when they protest.
    , @Karl
    10 Diversity Heretic > But AUSAs in California are probably in general sympathy with the objectives and possibly even the tactics of Black Bloc.

    well, who even cares. Because the AUSA's don't control the currently-empaneled Federal Grand Jury. Send the Foreman of the same, an affidavit alleging the commission of a federal crime. Attach whatever evidence you think is useful - the rules of court don't apply, because the Grand Jury is INDEPENDENT of the courts and are NOT Officers Of The Court. The job of the AUSA & the judge, is to make sure the Grand Jury receives its coffee breaks. Full Stop.

    Grand Juries have amazingly wide powers of investigation.
  10. The more interesting law that could be applied by Sessions to local officials is 18 USC 242:

    Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

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  11. Attorney General Sessions should ask the mayor of Berkeley and the governor of California if they intend to enforce California’s law…

    Wasn’t the one unanimous point for SCOTUS in Bush v Gore that the Florida Supreme Court was ignoring Florida, rather than federal, law?

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  12. @Diversity Heretic
    It actually wouldn't even take the Department of Justice to undertake a prosecution. Assistant U.S. Attorneys have a great deal of discretion to initiate prosecutions. But AUSAs in California are probably in general sympathy with the objectives and possibly even the tactics of Black Bloc. The Washington DC Department of Justice (Main Justice) also has the authority, but the career slots (Deputy Assistant Attorney Generals and below) at Main Justice are now staffed by the law school products of the 1980s and 1990s and I'm sure that they are both unenthusiastic about such prosecutions and able to raise all sorts of objections as to why prosecutions can't be brought. The hell of it is, the objection of "lack of jury appeal" in the Berkely area is probably accurate.

    Prosecuting this has to come from Trump/Sessions or else it won’t happen. No one at lower levels would put his career at risk unless he knew the Trump Administration was going to back him up on this. Like you said, you wouldn’t be able to get a conviction in Berkeley anyway, especially considering the police ask these groups if they want symbolic arrests when they protest.

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Thank you for your comment. You are, of course, correct that this would have to come from the top. But in terms of career protection or advancement, a career prosecutor might be very reluctant to take the case. How do you think such a person's career will fare in the DOJ if a Kamala Harris Administration takes over on January 20, 2021? If they're in the DOJ at all, it'll be prosecuting overfishing violations in the Aleutians.
  13. Hippies, yippies, and masked anarchists, especially those connected with Berkeley, have always been the false opposition/shock troops of the Deep State in its proxy war against the people. That joining them is fighting FOR the System (or at least being sidetracked) has never been so crystal clear as it is now.

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  14. Liberals punch Nazis (Richard Spencer)

    Conservative punch girls (Berkley stuff)

    That tells you something right there

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    TD, I think any of my four daughters could punch the crap out of you, would that make you feel better?
    , @anon
    Conservative punch girls (Berkley stuff)

    How was Damigo supposed to know she was a woman? Only a bigot would assume she identified as a woman just because she looked like one and posted pictures online of her exposed vagina. Some men have vaginas too, you cishet scum.

    Although, if it does turn out that Moldilocks was a woman, remember. We were the ones who tried to keep them out of combat.
  15. Seems like that 18 U.S. Code § 241 should apply likewise to politically-motivated boycotts.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    How so? Please use the exact words in the statute, i.e., specify whose protected right to what is impacted by private persons urging or participating in a boycott.

    Or maybe your humor eludes me.

  16. “Seems like that 18 U.S. Code § 241 should apply likewise to politically-motivated boycotts.”

    Should I be prosecuted for not shopping at Transgender Target?

    Should Christians be prosecuted for canceling their Gay-Friendly-Disney vacations?

    Sigh. In a country where NOT buying health insurance is against the law, why not?

    We notice a suspicious paucity of Beyonce tracks in your playlist, comrade. The good news is that there is still time to $tock up before we refer the matter to a judge.

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  17. I never have agreed with you on the whole problem with masked protesters, Steve, but I don’t doubt the law you state, and the interference of free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege is another story.

    Two can play this mask game, though. It can have a lot of advantages for the peaceful support-of-free-speech protesters too. Right now still, we conservatives still have much more to lose, employment-wise and other, by being seen even in a peaceful protest compared to these insane lefties with nothing to lose nor live for.*

    The main thing is, of course, is that the masks help de-identify those who may otherwise be arrested/charged.

    * Once this changes the battle will be won easily by the side of the sane majority.

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  18. After Syria, I’m not holding my breath for Trump/Sessions to start defending their supporters.

    Of course, a federal sweep of antifa during protests would turn up a lot of (1) illegal immigrants; (2) folks with outstanding warrants; and (3) folks carrying illegal contraband.

    So if the administration ever did get the decency to go after and prosecute antifa thugs, they could get convictions/deportation on those charges and not have to hinge a case solely on a new legal theory. (Steve’s theory makes imminent sense, btw, but logic and the law don’t work together well, it’s an emotion-driven place with a veneer of logic as cover).

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  19. 18 USC 241 is the anti-Klan law. It wasn’t meant to be used (and AFAIK has not been used) against anyone else. “Bills of Attainder” (laws particularly targeting some individual or group) are prohibited in the US Constitution (and all State constitutions) so laws always have to be worded is a seemingly broad fashion even if they are really meant for one organization. For example, there have been special provisions in the Internal Revenue Code put in for all companies that were founded in a certain month and year in certain state, etc. and it just so happens that there is only 1 company that fits that loophole. Likewise, in NY State there are certain laws meant to apply only to New York City but these laws always begin “In all cities with a population in excess of 1,000,000 people….” but there’s only one such city in NY. (Buffalo peaked out at almost 600,000 in the 1930-50 period but now it’s back down to less than 1/2 of that). 18 USC 241 is wink wink, nod nod for the KKK only.

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    18 USC 241 is the anti-Klan law. It wasn’t meant to be used (and AFAIK has not been used) against anyone else
     
    Big whoop. The 14th A. was only meant for blacks who were descendants of slaves, but has been expanded to be used for every Democrat special interest groups.

    Heck, Justice Richard Posner wrote just a few weeks ago that as a judge he has a duty to impose meanings on laws that the legislators who passed it never intended. And, as another judge once said (paraphrasing), you can always find something in the legislative history of a law to justify a new intent or application.

    Rule of just law is pretty dead in America.

    , @Lot
    The intentions of the authors of the law only matter in limited circumstances which I do not see here.
  20. Well, we have to keep in mind that suppression of right-wing speech really got started during the Bush administration, and it was carried out by the very DOJ that you’d have deal with these anarchists. Recall, for example, the prosecution of Kevin Strom for sex offenses, by the JTTF of all agencies.

    Strom was going through a divorce, his wife accused him of being a pedophile, then began sleeping with a federal agent who was investigating him (nice touch). Eventually, with the help of his wife, the DOJ made their move and charged him with various sex offenses. Ultimately Strom copped a plea and got close to the minimum sentence. He says he took the plea because the feds heaped up charges against him, and he didn’t have the resources to fight them all. Although Strom may be a little weird and an anti-Semite, so is Louis Farrakhan, and so is Reverend Wright. Hell, he’s probably no more anti-Semitic than your run-of-the-mill Muslim Mullah. As for the sex offenses? Come on… Strom is strange, but given the paltry sentence it’s pretty clear nobody really bought the prosecution’s case.

    There were others on the right prosecuted on similar trumped up charges around that time or a little earlier, although I can’t remember their names off the top of my head.

    The point is that “fighting Nazis” was and still is considered by many to be the duty of every God-fearing American, despite the fact that the Nazi menace was defeated almost exactly 72 years ago. In fact, due to the relentless focus on WWII and the Holocaust in the 90s, people probably felt more that way during the mid-90s-2000s than they did in 1946.

    I have no doubt that the DOJ is still full of people who think that way. How is Sessions ever going to convince them to help prosecute some violent anarchists when these anarchists are “fighting Nazis?” The Black Bloc are the good guys in their minds. It’s going to take some time, and some cleaning of the house, before people can be sane about this.

    It’s also going to take some house-cleaning on the right. Being a neo-Nazi is backward and dated, indiscriminate anti-Semitism is always counterproductive, and both play right into the equally backward and dated leftist worldview.

    But for now, you have to understand that what these anarchists here and in Europe are doing is taking their cues from the top. They truly are useful idiots — in every sense of the phrase. Their behavior will only change when the Ship of State finally changes course, and that takes a while.

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  21. @Barnard
    Prosecuting this has to come from Trump/Sessions or else it won't happen. No one at lower levels would put his career at risk unless he knew the Trump Administration was going to back him up on this. Like you said, you wouldn't be able to get a conviction in Berkeley anyway, especially considering the police ask these groups if they want symbolic arrests when they protest.

    Thank you for your comment. You are, of course, correct that this would have to come from the top. But in terms of career protection or advancement, a career prosecutor might be very reluctant to take the case. How do you think such a person’s career will fare in the DOJ if a Kamala Harris Administration takes over on January 20, 2021? If they’re in the DOJ at all, it’ll be prosecuting overfishing violations in the Aleutians.

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    • Replies: @donut
    I spent a couple of summers on a cable repair ship up in the Aleutians . I think we saw the sun maybe two or three times for an afternoon , the rest of the time it was solid cloud cover . Once in July they came to call out the watch and the temp was in the 30's . We would be stationary hooked to the cable and at night with all the deck lights on we were the biggest show in town . The ship would be surrounded by hundreds of gulls and a fair number of seals I guess . All just sitting in the water watching us .

    I used to wonder what kind of world view the prehistoric Aleuts had .

    There was a story , apocryphal I suppose , about the Reeve Aleutian Airways pilots . One time the airport was fogged in which was not uncommon and was closed to traffic . The control tower got a call from an Aleutian Airways flight requesting they turn on their runway lights . The tower responded that the airport was closed down due to low vis. The pilot responded that he had already landed and just wanted the lights on so he could find the terminal .
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    @International Jew
    Seems like that 18 U.S. Code § 241 should apply likewise to politically-motivated boycotts.

    How so? Please use the exact words in the statute, i.e., specify whose protected right to what is impacted by private persons urging or participating in a boycott.

    Or maybe your humor eludes me.

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    • Replies: @International Jew
    I'm referring to the first paragraph of the statute (as quoted above by Steve). So in particular, take Brendan Eich. He did his job, he kept his politics at home, but he contributed money to a political campaign -- that's the exercise of one of his Constitutional rights -- that some people didn't approve of. And for that they pressured his company to fire him.
  23. Attorney General Sessions should ask the mayor of Berkeley and the governor of California if they intend to enforce California’s law against masked intimidators and remind them of this federal law and his powers to protect the Constitutional civil rights of citizens and to sanction officials who fail to do so.

    Why bother relying on California or Berkeley at all? It’s federal law: Sessions can have the Justice Department and the FBI investigate and enforce it himself.

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  24. OT
    There’s been a dearth of commentary today about Trump’s largest action today since killing the TPP: setting into motion taking a sledgehammer to H1-B work visas as well as privileging American workers and American products.

    The Sailer angle? This abomination of an article is completely par for the course by the MSM and it had the audacity to come out TODAY :
    “As Trump Drifts Away From Populism, His Supporters Grow Watchful”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/18/us/politics/populism-donald-trump-administration.html

    It’s got Bannon, it’s got concern trolling, but it doesn’t have anything about immigration or the H1-B work visa which Trump addressed today. Searches for these terms only pull up that Trump can retain his hold on some voter by holding a hard line against immigrants. Crikey.

    Anyway, today’s a day of celebration for the Nerd Community:

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    Yes, throttling back the H1B program (i.e. the no billionaire techweasel left behind program) is an important action in improving both the employment prospects, and the salaries, of American citizens. I would prefer that 99% of the wealth of Gates, Zuckerberg, Ellison, Cook and the rest of the rich cuckers be redistributed, but this is a good start.
  25. OT: Miami Herald, 04/18/17 – 3 people killed in Fresno shooting spree; suspect in custody, linked to 4th killing

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article145271474.html#storylink=latest_side

    Three people were shot and killed after a man went on a shooting spree in downtown Fresno and at Catholic Charities Tuesday…, police Chief Jerry Dyer said.

    The 39-year-old suspect, identified as Kori Ali Muhammad, is now in custody… He is also suspected in the fatal shooting of a security guard outside a Motel 6 in central Fresno Thursday. He is facing four counts of murder and two counts of attempted murder…Muhammad had expressed dislike of whites; all of the victims were white. Dyer called it a “random act of violence.”

    Officers responding to the initial shotspotter reports found Muhammad running south on Fulton. Muhammad dove to the ground and yelled “Allahu Akhbar” before he was taken into custody…The witness described the gunman as black and about 25 years old.

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    • Replies: @Yak-15
    The left will place this into their anti-gun archive, we will put it into our anti-Muslim/black pile. Nothing changes and nothing will change.
  26. @jimbojones
    By the way, on the issue of who the real fascists are - these fine folks in the picture Steve posted are 100% grade A fascist squadristi straight from the old days.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackshirts
    The Duce, by the way, was a convinced and active member of the Socialist Party before he ever was the Duce.

    Imagine some trads tried to prevent Tim Cook or another person of similar public stature and private convictions from speaking at a major university. You'd never stop hearing about "Nazis" and "religious bigots" and so on. Meanwhile, people like Murray and his colleague aren't even Trumpers.

    America does have a budding fascism problem. But, as with most things, it's coming from direction opposite to the direction that the establishment is pointing at.

    How unfair of the Left!

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    • Replies: @jimbojones
    Hypocritical, not unfair. Surely you can tell the difference.
  27. Dahlia, I just heard a pretty good piece on Trump’s anti-H1B EO on NPR. They even had someone on doing a pretty good job of explaining how Indian tech companies are scamming the system.

    They also had a bit on Trump’s bit on taking “America First” in gov’t spending seriously again, and even quoted the administration about how recent trade deals have put foreign companies on equal footing with domestic companies in gov’t spending, and how foreign gov’ts have not reciprocated.

    I suppose NPR finds any form of the word “reciprocate” painful to use.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    Watch those Hindoos! They call, posing as "Microsoft employees", claiming that they "detected a virus in your computer" etc. etc. You pay them to fix it when in fact they've planted viruses. Lately they've moved to FB with b.s. postings. Nearly fell for the latter. Found out from Microsoft that they have been getting similar complaints from others and that "it's a problem."

    Watch 'em!
    , @Opinionator
    I suppose NPR finds any form of the word “reciprocate” painful to use.

    What makes you say that?
  28. @Jack D
    18 USC 241 is the anti-Klan law. It wasn't meant to be used (and AFAIK has not been used) against anyone else. "Bills of Attainder" (laws particularly targeting some individual or group) are prohibited in the US Constitution (and all State constitutions) so laws always have to be worded is a seemingly broad fashion even if they are really meant for one organization. For example, there have been special provisions in the Internal Revenue Code put in for all companies that were founded in a certain month and year in certain state, etc. and it just so happens that there is only 1 company that fits that loophole. Likewise, in NY State there are certain laws meant to apply only to New York City but these laws always begin "In all cities with a population in excess of 1,000,000 people...." but there's only one such city in NY. (Buffalo peaked out at almost 600,000 in the 1930-50 period but now it's back down to less than 1/2 of that). 18 USC 241 is wink wink, nod nod for the KKK only.

    18 USC 241 is the anti-Klan law. It wasn’t meant to be used (and AFAIK has not been used) against anyone else

    Big whoop. The 14th A. was only meant for blacks who were descendants of slaves, but has been expanded to be used for every Democrat special interest groups.

    Heck, Justice Richard Posner wrote just a few weeks ago that as a judge he has a duty to impose meanings on laws that the legislators who passed it never intended. And, as another judge once said (paraphrasing), you can always find something in the legislative history of a law to justify a new intent or application.

    Rule of just law is pretty dead in America.

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    • Replies: @Roderick Spode
    They are Commies, but many of them don't know it. Years of contact with the East Bay left has taught me that "anarchist"="anarcho-syndicalist"=Marxist, but these relatively totalitarian ideas have neen sugar-coated with dubious appeals to individual freedom for many, in part thanks to decades of academic hegemony.

    I'm just here for the Fresno post anyway.
  29. @jimbojones
    By the way, on the issue of who the real fascists are - these fine folks in the picture Steve posted are 100% grade A fascist squadristi straight from the old days.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackshirts
    The Duce, by the way, was a convinced and active member of the Socialist Party before he ever was the Duce.

    Imagine some trads tried to prevent Tim Cook or another person of similar public stature and private convictions from speaking at a major university. You'd never stop hearing about "Nazis" and "religious bigots" and so on. Meanwhile, people like Murray and his colleague aren't even Trumpers.

    America does have a budding fascism problem. But, as with most things, it's coming from direction opposite to the direction that the establishment is pointing at.

    They’re communists.

    Communism—the most evil, destructive, murderous ideology the world has seen yet—has reared it’s ugly head again, as Satanic philosophies tend to do like hydras. And just all communists, they used violence to intimidate and shut down opposition.

    These folks are why communists were jailed, bashed, and deported in this nation and abroad since the 1920s. The Blacklist of Hollywood was totally justified in running those reds out of town and out of jobs for the evil they spewed.

    We need some more Red exclusionary laws and actions. All the old battles of the 1920s and 1940s-50s are back again. Let’s pray we win it like we did in the 1920s and not lose it like we did in the 1950s—because that spawned the 60s and 70s and their muck.

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  30. OT:

    Sailer Bait

    Murderous, dusky Mohammedan shouts “Alluhu Akbar!” and announces he hates white people; police say it’s unclear if terrorism motivated his murders; claim it is a “random act of violence”….

    Prediction: Fresno isn’t trendy enough for Goodwhites to give a damn.

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  31. @Diversity Heretic
    It actually wouldn't even take the Department of Justice to undertake a prosecution. Assistant U.S. Attorneys have a great deal of discretion to initiate prosecutions. But AUSAs in California are probably in general sympathy with the objectives and possibly even the tactics of Black Bloc. The Washington DC Department of Justice (Main Justice) also has the authority, but the career slots (Deputy Assistant Attorney Generals and below) at Main Justice are now staffed by the law school products of the 1980s and 1990s and I'm sure that they are both unenthusiastic about such prosecutions and able to raise all sorts of objections as to why prosecutions can't be brought. The hell of it is, the objection of "lack of jury appeal" in the Berkely area is probably accurate.

    10 Diversity Heretic > But AUSAs in California are probably in general sympathy with the objectives and possibly even the tactics of Black Bloc.

    well, who even cares. Because the AUSA’s don’t control the currently-empaneled Federal Grand Jury. Send the Foreman of the same, an affidavit alleging the commission of a federal crime. Attach whatever evidence you think is useful – the rules of court don’t apply, because the Grand Jury is INDEPENDENT of the courts and are NOT Officers Of The Court. The job of the AUSA & the judge, is to make sure the Grand Jury receives its coffee breaks. Full Stop.

    Grand Juries have amazingly wide powers of investigation.

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  32. @Tiny Duck
    Liberals punch Nazis (Richard Spencer)

    Conservative punch girls (Berkley stuff)

    That tells you something right there

    TD, I think any of my four daughters could punch the crap out of you, would that make you feel better?

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  33. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Svigor
    Dahlia, I just heard a pretty good piece on Trump's anti-H1B EO on NPR. They even had someone on doing a pretty good job of explaining how Indian tech companies are scamming the system.

    They also had a bit on Trump's bit on taking "America First" in gov't spending seriously again, and even quoted the administration about how recent trade deals have put foreign companies on equal footing with domestic companies in gov't spending, and how foreign gov'ts have not reciprocated.

    I suppose NPR finds any form of the word "reciprocate" painful to use.

    Watch those Hindoos! They call, posing as “Microsoft employees”, claiming that they “detected a virus in your computer” etc. etc. You pay them to fix it when in fact they’ve planted viruses. Lately they’ve moved to FB with b.s. postings. Nearly fell for the latter. Found out from Microsoft that they have been getting similar complaints from others and that “it’s a problem.”

    Watch ‘em!

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    • Replies: @Lurker
    I changed internet provider over a year ago. The previous provider relied on low-grade Indian tech support and that along with other aspects of their service was dire.


    However, recently, I've been getting calls from Indians claiming to be tech support from my previous provider.

    I tell them I'm not interested, other times I let them read out their script, where they start telling me the errors they've detected.

    One time they just called and said there was a virus on my computer. "Which one, which operating system?" I asked. They cut me off right there!

    It's obviously some sort of scam/phishing but the funny thing is they come across exactly the same as the genuine tech support did. Amateurish, chaotic, rather poor English. I amuse myself with the idea that it is actually the same call centre being hired by [redacted] and the phishing operation.

  34. Attorney General Sessions should ask the mayor of Berkeley and the governor of California if they intend to enforce California’s law against masked intimidators and remind them of this federal law and his powers to protect the Constitutional civil rights of citizens and to sanction officials who fail to do so.

    You keep saying things like this, Mr. Sailer, but you should be smart enough to realize that not only will Sessions not do this, nor will anyone else, ever. It is never, ever, ever, ever going to happen. All real power in matters like this belongs utterly and unshakeably to people on the side of the “masked intimidators”, and there is literally absolutely nothing that can be done about it.

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    "Nothing can be done about IT!"


    Yeah maybe if your highest allowable form of dissent is blog posting. Those hard dudes kicking commie ass sure looked like they were doing something about it.
  35. @Tiny Duck
    This has got be a false flag operation done by Trump and the alt right racists.

    It appears the benefactors: Milo who has gotten national publicity and will sell more books; President Trump from his tweets that the "left" doesn't allow free speech (especially UC Berkeley (once) known as an epicenter for "free-speech"); professional--organized vandals who show up at peaceful protests around the east bay, enjoying prey and play. Those getting a "black eye" and a "kick in the butt," aka the backlash: peaceful protesters with message lost; campus destruction costing $; local businesses that support Berkeley and who hire locals lost $; and let's not forget us taxpayers who get the tab...

    Off topic:

    John Oliver DESTORYS Marine Le Pen

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkZir1L7fSY

    Looks like she's going to get frog stomped!

    Who bitch this is? This is the same guy who told Teh Trumpster to bring it? Hahahahaha.

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  36. @Tiny Duck
    This has got be a false flag operation done by Trump and the alt right racists.

    It appears the benefactors: Milo who has gotten national publicity and will sell more books; President Trump from his tweets that the "left" doesn't allow free speech (especially UC Berkeley (once) known as an epicenter for "free-speech"); professional--organized vandals who show up at peaceful protests around the east bay, enjoying prey and play. Those getting a "black eye" and a "kick in the butt," aka the backlash: peaceful protesters with message lost; campus destruction costing $; local businesses that support Berkeley and who hire locals lost $; and let's not forget us taxpayers who get the tab...

    Off topic:

    John Oliver DESTORYS Marine Le Pen

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkZir1L7fSY

    Looks like she's going to get frog stomped!

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    • Replies: @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Court jester doing the bidding of CultMarx paymasters. John Oliver is deceit + snark with a side of smarm. People like him need to be forced to spend 6 months in Mogadishu living on $2 a day. He is like a societal parasite.
  37. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Tiny Duck
    Liberals punch Nazis (Richard Spencer)

    Conservative punch girls (Berkley stuff)

    That tells you something right there

    Conservative punch girls (Berkley stuff)

    How was Damigo supposed to know she was a woman? Only a bigot would assume she identified as a woman just because she looked like one and posted pictures online of her exposed vagina. Some men have vaginas too, you cishet scum.

    Although, if it does turn out that Moldilocks was a woman, remember. We were the ones who tried to keep them out of combat.

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    • Replies: @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Here is a good precis of the Moldylocks - Damigo fracas. Comparing this with the nonsense she was spouting in the MSM interview yesterday, you can see what a vile cretin she is. Total Lies & playing the sympathy card when she is 110% at fault as an aggressor. The main punch she received was relatively mild vs what she was due.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bHf6j1T5o&feature=youtu.be
    , @Lurker
    First couple of times I saw the clip I genuinely wasn't sure if it was male or female.
  38. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anonymous
    Steve, any thoughts on Steve Stephens? I think you've blogged before about the prevalence of the name Steve.

    The FBI Special Agent In Charge of the case is Steve Anthony.

    Is Steve Stevens (of Billy Idol fame) the official guitar player of HBD? I’ve always liked that guy.

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  39. I don’t know why they have been holding back on going after these antisocial deviants with RICO, nor do I understand why Congress is holding back insuring better protection of free speech.

    Look at all the legislative action around restricting Anti-Abortion protests–there is plenty of constitutional room to stop organized violence through legislation (and then some), and plenty of existing laws on the books.

    What is the point of a GOP Congress if they sit back and do nothing, and let the Trotskyites indoctrinate the youth and organize armed violent gangs to suppress political opposition?

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    • Replies: @guest
    To ask those questions is to answer them. They don't want to stop them. They're not necessarily on their side, but they're not not on their side. Even the Trump people, who only have so much control to begin with, aren't necessarily on the side of Trump supporters.

    Rank and file law enforcement is innately rightist, though not necessarily "woke" to the fact. The higher you go in Law, however, the more power leftists have. (Generally speaking. They don't own the Attorney General, the president, or SCOTUS. For now.)
  40. @whorefinder

    18 USC 241 is the anti-Klan law. It wasn’t meant to be used (and AFAIK has not been used) against anyone else
     
    Big whoop. The 14th A. was only meant for blacks who were descendants of slaves, but has been expanded to be used for every Democrat special interest groups.

    Heck, Justice Richard Posner wrote just a few weeks ago that as a judge he has a duty to impose meanings on laws that the legislators who passed it never intended. And, as another judge once said (paraphrasing), you can always find something in the legislative history of a law to justify a new intent or application.

    Rule of just law is pretty dead in America.

    They are Commies, but many of them don’t know it. Years of contact with the East Bay left has taught me that “anarchist”=”anarcho-syndicalist”=Marxist, but these relatively totalitarian ideas have neen sugar-coated with dubious appeals to individual freedom for many, in part thanks to decades of academic hegemony.

    I’m just here for the Fresno post anyway.

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    • Replies: @guest
    A very long time ago, around when they were shooting McKinlies, everyone knew anarchists were commies.* Commies never forgot, but the general public did. Their names are constantly falling into disrepute, then coming back again. Like fashion.

    *There were libertarian anarchists back when, such as Lysander Spooner, Benjamin Tucker, and John Henry Mackay. But they were a minority.
  41. Any thoughts on why Sessions is not the slightest bit interested in cracking down on street thugs that terrorize Trump voters (and anyone else they disagree with with)?

    Stopping Antifa et al is about preserving the 1st amendment which is far ore important than Sessions’ jihad against marijuana. It isn’t like this problem is an obscure one. Left wing thugs, often paid, have been beating up Trump supporters ever since at least Chicago in the early primaries.

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    • Replies: @Rod1963
    All I know the protype for these goons go back 20 years to the Seattle WTO riots where I first noticed them. They seem to show up at every legit protest to ruin it and bully conservatives foolish enough to hold a public rally in a liberal city.

    Anti-fa itself originated in Europe among fanatical white communist youth where it seems to have the backing of the Merkel government.

    No one to my knowledge has ever investigated anti-fa/black-bloc here as to who is financing it and who in the Democratic party is protecting it. For the most part they seem to operate with impunity in liberal run cities.

    The reason Session's can't do much about this is because his people aren't position yet within the DOJ, and it's a lot.
  42. Challange for Trump: finding loyal and qualified US Attorneys for all 110 or so federal districts spread over the USA. Hopefully he has delegated this to Sessions and Miller, not Preibus and Ryan.

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  43. @Jack D
    18 USC 241 is the anti-Klan law. It wasn't meant to be used (and AFAIK has not been used) against anyone else. "Bills of Attainder" (laws particularly targeting some individual or group) are prohibited in the US Constitution (and all State constitutions) so laws always have to be worded is a seemingly broad fashion even if they are really meant for one organization. For example, there have been special provisions in the Internal Revenue Code put in for all companies that were founded in a certain month and year in certain state, etc. and it just so happens that there is only 1 company that fits that loophole. Likewise, in NY State there are certain laws meant to apply only to New York City but these laws always begin "In all cities with a population in excess of 1,000,000 people...." but there's only one such city in NY. (Buffalo peaked out at almost 600,000 in the 1930-50 period but now it's back down to less than 1/2 of that). 18 USC 241 is wink wink, nod nod for the KKK only.

    The intentions of the authors of the law only matter in limited circumstances which I do not see here.

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  44. @Diversity Heretic
    Thank you for your comment. You are, of course, correct that this would have to come from the top. But in terms of career protection or advancement, a career prosecutor might be very reluctant to take the case. How do you think such a person's career will fare in the DOJ if a Kamala Harris Administration takes over on January 20, 2021? If they're in the DOJ at all, it'll be prosecuting overfishing violations in the Aleutians.

    I spent a couple of summers on a cable repair ship up in the Aleutians . I think we saw the sun maybe two or three times for an afternoon , the rest of the time it was solid cloud cover . Once in July they came to call out the watch and the temp was in the 30′s . We would be stationary hooked to the cable and at night with all the deck lights on we were the biggest show in town . The ship would be surrounded by hundreds of gulls and a fair number of seals I guess . All just sitting in the water watching us .

    I used to wonder what kind of world view the prehistoric Aleuts had .

    There was a story , apocryphal I suppose , about the Reeve Aleutian Airways pilots . One time the airport was fogged in which was not uncommon and was closed to traffic . The control tower got a call from an Aleutian Airways flight requesting they turn on their runway lights . The tower responded that the airport was closed down due to low vis. The pilot responded that he had already landed and just wanted the lights on so he could find the terminal .

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    • Replies: @Karl
    48 donut > the Reeve Aleutian Airways pilots

    As of the early 1990's, they were still using DC-9s.
    , @Whoever
    I know somebody who built up hours in a C-212-200 dropping meat bombs for a skydiving service after they got rid of their D-18S, then flew the same type all-cargo for ATS in Alaska as a summer job during college. One day on final approach to an uncontrolled field, a combination of snow-covered terrain, solid overcast and blowing snow led to an absolute white-out and perfect conditions for a CFIT.
    This person was the PF descending on instruments while the PNF scanned for visual contact with the runway. It never came. Just as the PF was deciding to abort, Wham! The main left gear buckled and ground-looped them. Said the PNF when they skidded to a halt, "I see the runway now."
  45. @E. Rekshun
    OT: Miami Herald, 04/18/17 - 3 people killed in Fresno shooting spree; suspect in custody, linked to 4th killing

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article145271474.html#storylink=latest_side


    Three people were shot and killed after a man went on a shooting spree in downtown Fresno and at Catholic Charities Tuesday..., police Chief Jerry Dyer said.

    The 39-year-old suspect, identified as Kori Ali Muhammad, is now in custody... He is also suspected in the fatal shooting of a security guard outside a Motel 6 in central Fresno Thursday. He is facing four counts of murder and two counts of attempted murder...Muhammad had expressed dislike of whites; all of the victims were white. Dyer called it a “random act of violence.”...

    Officers responding to the initial shotspotter reports found Muhammad running south on Fulton. Muhammad dove to the ground and yelled “Allahu Akhbar” before he was taken into custody...The witness described the gunman as black and about 25 years old.
     

    The left will place this into their anti-gun archive, we will put it into our anti-Muslim/black pile. Nothing changes and nothing will change.

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  46. Trump blew the pylons out from H1B today and most of you eeyores are STILL moaning on about cruise missiles in Syria.

    No wonder you could be safely ignored during the election.

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    I just read that on comments above yours and am very glad to hear it. If Trump really accomplishes most of what he talked about re: immigration and border control, I think we supporters will forgive him for the neocon nonsense. I just get the feeling that the invade-the-world and the invite-the world bits go together, but the H-1B visa thing is great news.

    Please don't call people quitters just because they have some criticisms. I don't there's a one of us here anywhere on the unz site that would rather see the Hildabeast in charge up in Washington, FS.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Trump blew the pylons out from H1B today and most of you eeyores are STILL moaning on about cruise missiles in Syria.
     
    Trump did not ban H1-B visas. He can't, by himself.
    , @anon
    IBM is OK with H1B changes.

    "Schroeter also remarked on the H1B visa program, saying that any changes made to the program wouldn't impact IBM's business. President Donald Trump unveiled a new executive order on the H1B visa program Tuesday morning.

    "We would encourage some changes to that H1B visa program, really to reign it in and use as we do," he said.

    "There are, clearly, some companies that have built an entire business model around that H1B visa program, which was not at all the intent. So, we would encourage some changes to the program. They don't have a material impact on us if they were to change it because we're using it in the right way, which is again, short-term, high-skills," Schroeter said."
    , @Hunsdon
    Some of us eeyores remember when nuclear war was an issue which was taken seriously.
  47. No doubt the Supreme Court would find that those laws were only meant to be used against white people.

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  48. @Dahlia
    OT
    There's been a dearth of commentary today about Trump's largest action today since killing the TPP: setting into motion taking a sledgehammer to H1-B work visas as well as privileging American workers and American products.

    The Sailer angle? This abomination of an article is completely par for the course by the MSM and it had the audacity to come out TODAY :
    "As Trump Drifts Away From Populism, His Supporters Grow Watchful"
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/18/us/politics/populism-donald-trump-administration.html

    It's got Bannon, it's got concern trolling, but it doesn't have anything about immigration or the H1-B work visa which Trump addressed today. Searches for these terms only pull up that Trump can retain his hold on some voter by holding a hard line against immigrants. Crikey.

    Anyway, today's a day of celebration for the Nerd Community:
    https://youtu.be/N9qYF9DZPdw

    Yes, throttling back the H1B program (i.e. the no billionaire techweasel left behind program) is an important action in improving both the employment prospects, and the salaries, of American citizens. I would prefer that 99% of the wealth of Gates, Zuckerberg, Ellison, Cook and the rest of the rich cuckers be redistributed, but this is a good start.

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  49. Right now, Sessions is busy going after MS-13 and other Central American gangs
    (http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-sessions-says-lax-immigration-1492527375-htmlstory.html).

    I’m just glad that we have an Attorney General whose biggest priority isn’t forcing schools to let men into their girls’ bathrooms/locker rooms.

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  50. The Left is so deluded that they’re blaming Trump supporters for the violence in Berkeley. They also claim that the “anti-fascists” were nonviolent and peaceful. What planet are these people living on?

    http://www.salon.com/2017/04/18/pro-trump-rioters-got-away-with-beating-anti-fascists-in-berkeley-and-they-likely-wont-stop-there/

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    • Replies: @guest
    A planet where lying can help you get ahead. (Earth.)
    , @grapesoda
    People's primeval brains will read this as: "Trump supporters beat the crap out of leftists." It makes them look dominant.

    The regular Salon readers who will get all weepy over this were never going to become conservative or moderate anyway.
  51. @Tiny Duck
    This has got be a false flag operation done by Trump and the alt right racists.

    It appears the benefactors: Milo who has gotten national publicity and will sell more books; President Trump from his tweets that the "left" doesn't allow free speech (especially UC Berkeley (once) known as an epicenter for "free-speech"); professional--organized vandals who show up at peaceful protests around the east bay, enjoying prey and play. Those getting a "black eye" and a "kick in the butt," aka the backlash: peaceful protesters with message lost; campus destruction costing $; local businesses that support Berkeley and who hire locals lost $; and let's not forget us taxpayers who get the tab...

    Off topic:

    John Oliver DESTORYS Marine Le Pen

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkZir1L7fSY

    Looks like she's going to get frog stomped!

    Milo is gay and enjoys BBC tops. You Antifa types should really like him for that.

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  52. Would be interesting to follow the money trail. Who is the paymaster for the black bloc?

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  53. I just watched Richard Spencer’s speech at Auburn via live stream. He did a very good job. It feels like we’re finally getting back to having a real marketplace of ideas after decades of stagnation.

    The way Richard Spencer moved around the room with the mic reminded me of Morrissey in this video:

    P.S. Apparently the cops at Auburn required the proestors to disarm and take off their masks or face arrest.

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    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Good call with the Morrissey video.
    , @guest
    Racists white racists like Morrissey because he doesn't sing blackly. (Melismatically and, for lack of a better term, unmusically, with the grunts and squeaks and such.) He doesn't exactly sing straight, but there's an openness and a clarity which only white supremacists enjoy.
  54. @jimbojones
    By the way, on the issue of who the real fascists are - these fine folks in the picture Steve posted are 100% grade A fascist squadristi straight from the old days.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackshirts
    The Duce, by the way, was a convinced and active member of the Socialist Party before he ever was the Duce.

    Imagine some trads tried to prevent Tim Cook or another person of similar public stature and private convictions from speaking at a major university. You'd never stop hearing about "Nazis" and "religious bigots" and so on. Meanwhile, people like Murray and his colleague aren't even Trumpers.

    America does have a budding fascism problem. But, as with most things, it's coming from direction opposite to the direction that the establishment is pointing at.

    By the way, on the issue of who the real fascists are – these fine folks in the picture Steve posted are 100% grade A fascist squadristi straight from the old days.

    No, they are communists of one stripe or another. Fascists bathe.

    The Duce, by the way, was a convinced and active member of the Socialist Party before he ever was the Duce.

    And before he became Il Duce, he stopped being a socialist, and started being a fascist. Just because Jonah Goldberg was confused about the political taxonomy of 20th century Europe, doesn’t mean that you have to be too.

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    • Replies: @jimbojones
    Well, if you want to do political taxonomy, then by conventional designations, the Black Bloc fellows are Anarchists - and historically, the Anarchists had serious beef with the Communists.

    But let's not do political taxonomy. I made a simple point - the original Blackshirts were Mussolini's Italian fascist thugs. Calling the Black Bloc "Communist" or "Anarchist" is not interesting or valuable, because that's what they purport to be anyway. But pointing out that in their getup and actions they are pure Fascists is critical exactly because they pretend to oppose Fascism.

    Nietzsche said one should watch out when battling monsters lest one turns into a monster oneself. Looks like in the case of the Black Bloc (and "AntiFa" in general), he was right.
  55. @donut
    I spent a couple of summers on a cable repair ship up in the Aleutians . I think we saw the sun maybe two or three times for an afternoon , the rest of the time it was solid cloud cover . Once in July they came to call out the watch and the temp was in the 30's . We would be stationary hooked to the cable and at night with all the deck lights on we were the biggest show in town . The ship would be surrounded by hundreds of gulls and a fair number of seals I guess . All just sitting in the water watching us .

    I used to wonder what kind of world view the prehistoric Aleuts had .

    There was a story , apocryphal I suppose , about the Reeve Aleutian Airways pilots . One time the airport was fogged in which was not uncommon and was closed to traffic . The control tower got a call from an Aleutian Airways flight requesting they turn on their runway lights . The tower responded that the airport was closed down due to low vis. The pilot responded that he had already landed and just wanted the lights on so he could find the terminal .

    48 donut > the Reeve Aleutian Airways pilots

    As of the early 1990′s, they were still using DC-9s.

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  56. @Jack Hanson
    Trump blew the pylons out from H1B today and most of you eeyores are STILL moaning on about cruise missiles in Syria.

    No wonder you could be safely ignored during the election.

    I just read that on comments above yours and am very glad to hear it. If Trump really accomplishes most of what he talked about re: immigration and border control, I think we supporters will forgive him for the neocon nonsense. I just get the feeling that the invade-the-world and the invite-the world bits go together, but the H-1B visa thing is great news.

    Please don’t call people quitters just because they have some criticisms. I don’t there’s a one of us here anywhere on the unz site that would rather see the Hildabeast in charge up in Washington, FS.

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    Please don’t call people quitters just because they have some criticisms. I don’t there’s a one of us here anywhere on the unz site that would rather see the Hildabeast in charge up in Washington, FS.
     
    Thanks for stating the reason we had to vote Trump - misgivings be damned. We knew Trump could never bat a thousand. But many of the despair comments look like the white flag of surrender - not just criticisms of policy.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Dang it, where's the Q/A around here, on my part? Forget that link, S/B Hildabeast.
    , @Jack Hanson
    They don't have criticisms. They have an endless stream of bitching that is wrong consistently.

    There's criticism and there's non stop eeyore. Guess what 90% of this place has been when its not hold courses and trying to figure out how much Jew is in someone's 23andMe?

  57. @Jack Hanson
    Trump blew the pylons out from H1B today and most of you eeyores are STILL moaning on about cruise missiles in Syria.

    No wonder you could be safely ignored during the election.

    Trump blew the pylons out from H1B today and most of you eeyores are STILL moaning on about cruise missiles in Syria.

    Trump did not ban H1-B visas. He can’t, by himself.

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    Read what I said: I didn't say he banned it, I said he wrecked it being used as a labor mill for Silicon Valley.
  58. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jack Hanson
    Trump blew the pylons out from H1B today and most of you eeyores are STILL moaning on about cruise missiles in Syria.

    No wonder you could be safely ignored during the election.

    IBM is OK with H1B changes.

    “Schroeter also remarked on the H1B visa program, saying that any changes made to the program wouldn’t impact IBM’s business. President Donald Trump unveiled a new executive order on the H1B visa program Tuesday morning.

    “We would encourage some changes to that H1B visa program, really to reign it in and use as we do,” he said.

    “There are, clearly, some companies that have built an entire business model around that H1B visa program, which was not at all the intent. So, we would encourage some changes to the program. They don’t have a material impact on us if they were to change it because we’re using it in the right way, which is again, short-term, high-skills,” Schroeter said.”

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    And? Is this supposed to be some sort of "Heh, checkmate Trumpster" so you can go on moaning about how Trump is no different than Hillary?
    , @jill
    The IBM business model is vastly different then let's say Googles'. For example, new contracts for software development are overseen by a stateside team leader and parts of the contract are piece-mealed out to sub contractors located all over the planet. No need to import foreign workers.
  59. @Tiny Duck
    This has got be a false flag operation done by Trump and the alt right racists.

    It appears the benefactors: Milo who has gotten national publicity and will sell more books; President Trump from his tweets that the "left" doesn't allow free speech (especially UC Berkeley (once) known as an epicenter for "free-speech"); professional--organized vandals who show up at peaceful protests around the east bay, enjoying prey and play. Those getting a "black eye" and a "kick in the butt," aka the backlash: peaceful protesters with message lost; campus destruction costing $; local businesses that support Berkeley and who hire locals lost $; and let's not forget us taxpayers who get the tab...

    Off topic:

    John Oliver DESTORYS Marine Le Pen

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkZir1L7fSY

    Looks like she's going to get frog stomped!

    LOL. That’s the far-left talking point. I was told the very same thing just a few weeks ago by a friend who is big in the Berkeley radical left scene: The Blackbloc has been infiltrated by pro-Trump people. That’s who’s doing all the violence. I guess it was pro-Bush people who were smashing Micky Dee’s during the G8 conferences and similar.

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  60. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Question.

    How did Pinker avoid the controversy of Murray?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJPZK6Fl6-8

    His piece in the New Republic about Jewish IQ isn’t much different from Murray’s discussion of race differences in IQ.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    Reason 1, Pinker is a tenured Harvard professor so more powerful than Murray. Reason 2, Pinker never has and never will touch the black IQ issue.
  61. @Achmed E. Newman
    I just read that on comments above yours and am very glad to hear it. If Trump really accomplishes most of what he talked about re: immigration and border control, I think we supporters will forgive him for the neocon nonsense. I just get the feeling that the invade-the-world and the invite-the world bits go together, but the H-1B visa thing is great news.

    Please don't call people quitters just because they have some criticisms. I don't there's a one of us here anywhere on the unz site that would rather see the Hildabeast in charge up in Washington, FS.

    Please don’t call people quitters just because they have some criticisms. I don’t there’s a one of us here anywhere on the unz site that would rather see the Hildabeast in charge up in Washington, FS.

    Thanks for stating the reason we had to vote Trump – misgivings be damned. We knew Trump could never bat a thousand. But many of the despair comments look like the white flag of surrender – not just criticisms of policy.

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  62. @Tiny Duck
    This has got be a false flag operation done by Trump and the alt right racists.

    It appears the benefactors: Milo who has gotten national publicity and will sell more books; President Trump from his tweets that the "left" doesn't allow free speech (especially UC Berkeley (once) known as an epicenter for "free-speech"); professional--organized vandals who show up at peaceful protests around the east bay, enjoying prey and play. Those getting a "black eye" and a "kick in the butt," aka the backlash: peaceful protesters with message lost; campus destruction costing $; local businesses that support Berkeley and who hire locals lost $; and let's not forget us taxpayers who get the tab...

    Off topic:

    John Oliver DESTORYS Marine Le Pen

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkZir1L7fSY

    Looks like she's going to get frog stomped!

    John Oliver loudly proclaimed his desire for Donald Trump to run, thinking that his campaign would be an epic failure. John Oliver doesn’t have a very good record at predicting things.

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    • Replies: @anon
    Not only that, but he's not even funny. I can't imagine why people watch his show. I suspect they just think his accent makes him sound smart, and they like hearing someone who sounds smart say the things they already believe in.
  63. @Achmed E. Newman
    I just read that on comments above yours and am very glad to hear it. If Trump really accomplishes most of what he talked about re: immigration and border control, I think we supporters will forgive him for the neocon nonsense. I just get the feeling that the invade-the-world and the invite-the world bits go together, but the H-1B visa thing is great news.

    Please don't call people quitters just because they have some criticisms. I don't there's a one of us here anywhere on the unz site that would rather see the Hildabeast in charge up in Washington, FS.

    Dang it, where’s the Q/A around here, on my part? Forget that link, S/B Hildabeast.

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  64. @Kevin C.

    Attorney General Sessions should ask the mayor of Berkeley and the governor of California if they intend to enforce California’s law against masked intimidators and remind them of this federal law and his powers to protect the Constitutional civil rights of citizens and to sanction officials who fail to do so.
     
    You keep saying things like this, Mr. Sailer, but you should be smart enough to realize that not only will Sessions not do this, nor will anyone else, ever. It is never, ever, ever, ever going to happen. All real power in matters like this belongs utterly and unshakeably to people on the side of the "masked intimidators", and there is literally absolutely nothing that can be done about it.

    “Nothing can be done about IT!”

    Yeah maybe if your highest allowable form of dissent is blog posting. Those hard dudes kicking commie ass sure looked like they were doing something about it.

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  65. Bust those protestors who wear masks. Stickman would also be in violation of the appropriate statute. It’s the law, right?

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    • Replies: @anon
    Theoretically, but if the police had done their job and hauled off the antifa like they were supposed to, he could have just taken off his respirator before the protest and not been "masked". Thus rendering your point moot, like basically everything else you say.
    , @Steve Sailer
    Right.
    , @guest
    You have to establish intent to disrupt another's enjoyment of his rights. If Stickman was not on the side of the disruptors, and would be perfectly happy to take his mask off in the event of the commie thugs quitting the field of battle, then no.

    Of course, it'd be hard to establish such facts in the thick of things, so he could be arrested.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    Ah, but you forget "enforcement discretion." Did not the Kenyan show us how much is possible by the judicious application of this aspect of executive branch decision making? How about a DACA program for street fighters wearing MAGA insignia?
  66. @Achmed E. Newman
    I just read that on comments above yours and am very glad to hear it. If Trump really accomplishes most of what he talked about re: immigration and border control, I think we supporters will forgive him for the neocon nonsense. I just get the feeling that the invade-the-world and the invite-the world bits go together, but the H-1B visa thing is great news.

    Please don't call people quitters just because they have some criticisms. I don't there's a one of us here anywhere on the unz site that would rather see the Hildabeast in charge up in Washington, FS.

    They don’t have criticisms. They have an endless stream of bitching that is wrong consistently.

    There’s criticism and there’s non stop eeyore. Guess what 90% of this place has been when its not hold courses and trying to figure out how much Jew is in someone’s 23andMe?

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    I don't see it that way, Jack. I'm not sure if your bitching criticism here is about Sailer's blogs or unz.com in general, first of all. From Steve Sailer, we get his take on the stupid goings-on in modern society, specifically stuff that is ruining the country, and he does tend to drill down very deeply in some specific areas that may be of no concern at all to many people. The stuff is usually interesting to me, however. The commenters, since there are many, get into even more detail, but I don't think it's all bitching - I don't see that.

    You are probably right that the bloggers and commenters are more thinking than action type of people, but you never know what people are like off-line. If I were to get involved in really fighting some of the globalist/commie crap that is coming down on us, I wouldn't get into any details at all online.

    If it's specific to Trump, listen, we are all glad he won, but he is NOT doing all he can do, just with his basic administrative powers inherent in the presidency. If he ends up not being the leader people want, someone else has got to step up, that's all. It won't be someone else from our current Feral Gov't, as they are pretty much all on the same team.
  67. Would Antifas stoop to posing as Burka-clad Muslim women to hide their identities if laws against masks are enforced?

    We have a countermeasure at the ready in case they pull this?

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    • Replies: @anon
    We have a countermeasure at the ready in case they pull this?

    Disguise ourselves as their Islamic husbands, so we can beat them all we want without the left complaining?

    In all seriousness, I don't think they'd do that. That would be too close to associating Muslims with violence for them. If it wasn't, we could just kindly explain to them that disguising yourself as a Muslim so you can commit acts of violence is feeding into some pretty severe stereotypes. That it would be like putting on blackface before you robbed a guy.

  68. @Mr. Anon

    Trump blew the pylons out from H1B today and most of you eeyores are STILL moaning on about cruise missiles in Syria.
     
    Trump did not ban H1-B visas. He can't, by himself.

    Read what I said: I didn’t say he banned it, I said he wrecked it being used as a labor mill for Silicon Valley.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    He signed an order for executive agencies to study whether the system is being abused, which is tantamount to a physician ordering tests to check whether one's HIV or cancer are deleterious to one's health.

    He could instead if course, have skipped the horsepucky and proceeded with meaningful action.

    He could (yes, by himself, without legislative action and entirely in compliance with the enabling legislation) order the state department to rigorously review every single application to ensure a bona fide extraordinary skill unavailable otherwise is at stake; he could promulgate regulations to enforce the statute much more strictly.

    He could also be proposing and supporting legislation to end the programme.

    He is instead making what amount to suggestions that an entrenched bureaucracy with little if any interest in stopping the program's abuses investigate whether those abuses exist.

    Why? Because it's kabuki theater all the way down, like his immigration deportation programme writ large, which as I mathematically deminstrated in a previous comment is on track to oust all the illegal aliens by 2628 while ensuring long before then all the street signs are printed in Chinese and Urdu.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Read what I said: I didn’t say he banned it, I said he wrecked it being used as a labor mill for Silicon Valley.
     
    He didn't do that either. See Autochthon's comment.
  69. @anon
    IBM is OK with H1B changes.

    "Schroeter also remarked on the H1B visa program, saying that any changes made to the program wouldn't impact IBM's business. President Donald Trump unveiled a new executive order on the H1B visa program Tuesday morning.

    "We would encourage some changes to that H1B visa program, really to reign it in and use as we do," he said.

    "There are, clearly, some companies that have built an entire business model around that H1B visa program, which was not at all the intent. So, we would encourage some changes to the program. They don't have a material impact on us if they were to change it because we're using it in the right way, which is again, short-term, high-skills," Schroeter said."

    And? Is this supposed to be some sort of “Heh, checkmate Trumpster” so you can go on moaning about how Trump is no different than Hillary?

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  70. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Corvinus
    Bust those protestors who wear masks. Stickman would also be in violation of the appropriate statute. It's the law, right?

    Theoretically, but if the police had done their job and hauled off the antifa like they were supposed to, he could have just taken off his respirator before the protest and not been “masked”. Thus rendering your point moot, like basically everything else you say.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Theoretically, but if the police had done their job and hauled off the antifa like they were supposed to..."

    If and when those individuals begin to commit a crime. There mere presence does not mean the cops will automatically haul them to jail. Were you asleep in civics class?

    "...he could have just taken off his respirator before the protest and not been “masked”. Thus rendering your point moot, like basically everything else you say."

    Mr. Sailer agreed with me, so there!
  71. @Anon
    Question.

    How did Pinker avoid the controversy of Murray?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJPZK6Fl6-8

    His piece in the New Republic about Jewish IQ isn't much different from Murray's discussion of race differences in IQ.

    Reason 1, Pinker is a tenured Harvard professor so more powerful than Murray. Reason 2, Pinker never has and never will touch the black IQ issue.

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    • Replies: @mobi

    Reason 1, Pinker is a tenured Harvard professor so more powerful than Murray.
    Reason 2, Pinker never has and never will touch the black IQ issue.
     
    You missed one.
  72. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Mr. Anon
    John Oliver loudly proclaimed his desire for Donald Trump to run, thinking that his campaign would be an epic failure. John Oliver doesn't have a very good record at predicting things.

    Not only that, but he’s not even funny. I can’t imagine why people watch his show. I suspect they just think his accent makes him sound smart, and they like hearing someone who sounds smart say the things they already believe in.

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    • Replies: @Lurker
    Oliver is a smug wanker. I can't bear watching him for more than a few moments, makes me cringe.
  73. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @notice
    Would Antifas stoop to posing as Burka-clad Muslim women to hide their identities if laws against masks are enforced?

    We have a countermeasure at the ready in case they pull this?

    We have a countermeasure at the ready in case they pull this?

    Disguise ourselves as their Islamic husbands, so we can beat them all we want without the left complaining?

    In all seriousness, I don’t think they’d do that. That would be too close to associating Muslims with violence for them. If it wasn’t, we could just kindly explain to them that disguising yourself as a Muslim so you can commit acts of violence is feeding into some pretty severe stereotypes. That it would be like putting on blackface before you robbed a guy.

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  74. If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view – NO FEDERAL FUNDS? – President Donald Trump , February 2, 2017

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  75. @Svigor
    Dahlia, I just heard a pretty good piece on Trump's anti-H1B EO on NPR. They even had someone on doing a pretty good job of explaining how Indian tech companies are scamming the system.

    They also had a bit on Trump's bit on taking "America First" in gov't spending seriously again, and even quoted the administration about how recent trade deals have put foreign companies on equal footing with domestic companies in gov't spending, and how foreign gov'ts have not reciprocated.

    I suppose NPR finds any form of the word "reciprocate" painful to use.

    I suppose NPR finds any form of the word “reciprocate” painful to use.

    What makes you say that?

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  76. @Corvinus
    Bust those protestors who wear masks. Stickman would also be in violation of the appropriate statute. It's the law, right?

    Right.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    It might depend on the person's intent. Did Based Stick Man "go in disguise" or was he wearing a respirator (more broadly, was his face obscured) for some other purpose?
  77. @anon
    Conservative punch girls (Berkley stuff)

    How was Damigo supposed to know she was a woman? Only a bigot would assume she identified as a woman just because she looked like one and posted pictures online of her exposed vagina. Some men have vaginas too, you cishet scum.

    Although, if it does turn out that Moldilocks was a woman, remember. We were the ones who tried to keep them out of combat.

    Here is a good precis of the Moldylocks – Damigo fracas. Comparing this with the nonsense she was spouting in the MSM interview yesterday, you can see what a vile cretin she is. Total Lies & playing the sympathy card when she is 110% at fault as an aggressor. The main punch she received was relatively mild vs what she was due.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bHf6j1T5o&feature=youtu.be

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    • Replies: @guest
    "Total lies & playing the sympathy card when she is 110% at fault as an aggressor"

    She is a woman.
  78. @Roderick Spode
    They are Commies, but many of them don't know it. Years of contact with the East Bay left has taught me that "anarchist"="anarcho-syndicalist"=Marxist, but these relatively totalitarian ideas have neen sugar-coated with dubious appeals to individual freedom for many, in part thanks to decades of academic hegemony.

    I'm just here for the Fresno post anyway.

    A very long time ago, around when they were shooting McKinlies, everyone knew anarchists were commies.* Commies never forgot, but the general public did. Their names are constantly falling into disrepute, then coming back again. Like fashion.

    *There were libertarian anarchists back when, such as Lysander Spooner, Benjamin Tucker, and John Henry Mackay. But they were a minority.

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  79. @Cagey Beast
    I just watched Richard Spencer's speech at Auburn via live stream. He did a very good job. It feels like we're finally getting back to having a real marketplace of ideas after decades of stagnation.

    The way Richard Spencer moved around the room with the mic reminded me of Morrissey in this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHt8UJwXc1I

    P.S. Apparently the cops at Auburn required the proestors to disarm and take off their masks or face arrest.

    Good call with the Morrissey video.

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  80. Steve, you might as well pick a side and accept that there’s gonna be no RICO nonsense.

    I don’t blame Sessions for not getting distracted by this. The minute that he goes after these asshole they’re going to shove forward Hairy Asshole porn girl as a victim who din du nuttin, she a good girl.

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  81. @Corvinus
    Bust those protestors who wear masks. Stickman would also be in violation of the appropriate statute. It's the law, right?

    You have to establish intent to disrupt another’s enjoyment of his rights. If Stickman was not on the side of the disruptors, and would be perfectly happy to take his mask off in the event of the commie thugs quitting the field of battle, then no.

    Of course, it’d be hard to establish such facts in the thick of things, so he could be arrested.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "You have to establish intent to disrupt another’s enjoyment of his rights."

    No, the intent is already established when one attends a demonstration wearing a mask.

    "If Stickman was not on the side of the disruptors, and would be perfectly happy to take his mask off in the event of the commie thugs quitting the field of battle, then no."

    Then the same logic would apply to those leftist mask wearers when asked to take off their identity cover, right?
  82. @Lord Jeff Sessions
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhQzvFyPfA

    Court jester doing the bidding of CultMarx paymasters. John Oliver is deceit + snark with a side of smarm. People like him need to be forced to spend 6 months in Mogadishu living on $2 a day. He is like a societal parasite.

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  83. @Tulip
    I don't know why they have been holding back on going after these antisocial deviants with RICO, nor do I understand why Congress is holding back insuring better protection of free speech.

    Look at all the legislative action around restricting Anti-Abortion protests--there is plenty of constitutional room to stop organized violence through legislation (and then some), and plenty of existing laws on the books.

    What is the point of a GOP Congress if they sit back and do nothing, and let the Trotskyites indoctrinate the youth and organize armed violent gangs to suppress political opposition?

    To ask those questions is to answer them. They don’t want to stop them. They’re not necessarily on their side, but they’re not not on their side. Even the Trump people, who only have so much control to begin with, aren’t necessarily on the side of Trump supporters.

    Rank and file law enforcement is innately rightist, though not necessarily “woke” to the fact. The higher you go in Law, however, the more power leftists have. (Generally speaking. They don’t own the Attorney General, the president, or SCOTUS. For now.)

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  84. @Peripatetic commenter
    No doubt the Supreme Court would find that those laws were only meant to be used against white people.

    There are a lot of white people in Berkeley.

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  85. @JohnnyD
    The Left is so deluded that they're blaming Trump supporters for the violence in Berkeley. They also claim that the "anti-fascists" were nonviolent and peaceful. What planet are these people living on?
    http://www.salon.com/2017/04/18/pro-trump-rioters-got-away-with-beating-anti-fascists-in-berkeley-and-they-likely-wont-stop-there/

    A planet where lying can help you get ahead. (Earth.)

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  86. @anonymous
    Watch those Hindoos! They call, posing as "Microsoft employees", claiming that they "detected a virus in your computer" etc. etc. You pay them to fix it when in fact they've planted viruses. Lately they've moved to FB with b.s. postings. Nearly fell for the latter. Found out from Microsoft that they have been getting similar complaints from others and that "it's a problem."

    Watch 'em!

    I changed internet provider over a year ago. The previous provider relied on low-grade Indian tech support and that along with other aspects of their service was dire.

    However, recently, I’ve been getting calls from Indians claiming to be tech support from my previous provider.

    I tell them I’m not interested, other times I let them read out their script, where they start telling me the errors they’ve detected.

    One time they just called and said there was a virus on my computer. “Which one, which operating system?” I asked. They cut me off right there!

    It’s obviously some sort of scam/phishing but the funny thing is they come across exactly the same as the genuine tech support did. Amateurish, chaotic, rather poor English. I amuse myself with the idea that it is actually the same call centre being hired by [redacted] and the phishing operation.

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  87. @Cagey Beast
    I just watched Richard Spencer's speech at Auburn via live stream. He did a very good job. It feels like we're finally getting back to having a real marketplace of ideas after decades of stagnation.

    The way Richard Spencer moved around the room with the mic reminded me of Morrissey in this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHt8UJwXc1I

    P.S. Apparently the cops at Auburn required the proestors to disarm and take off their masks or face arrest.

    Racists white racists like Morrissey because he doesn’t sing blackly. (Melismatically and, for lack of a better term, unmusically, with the grunts and squeaks and such.) He doesn’t exactly sing straight, but there’s an openness and a clarity which only white supremacists enjoy.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Chicanos love Morrissey.
    , @Cagey Beast
    I like Morrissey's sense of humour and his singing style. I particularly like that song for its Irishness and the shot he takes at the rehabilitation of Oliver Cromwell, the first Bolshevik.
    , @anon
    Morrissey got in trouble for saying that Britain should remain British.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/morrissey-blames-immigration-for-disappearance-of-british-identity-760825.html


    Which makes it extra funny when people find out how much Mexican-Americans like him.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/10/08/why-do-mexican-americans-love-morrissey-so-much/

    It really is very odd. But I guess it's really no different than the fact that Mexicans have embraced America's hot-rod, greaser culture.

    It makes me wish American-Americans hadn't abandoned something so iconically American, honestly.

  88. @anon
    Not only that, but he's not even funny. I can't imagine why people watch his show. I suspect they just think his accent makes him sound smart, and they like hearing someone who sounds smart say the things they already believe in.

    Oliver is a smug wanker. I can’t bear watching him for more than a few moments, makes me cringe.

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  89. @anon
    Conservative punch girls (Berkley stuff)

    How was Damigo supposed to know she was a woman? Only a bigot would assume she identified as a woman just because she looked like one and posted pictures online of her exposed vagina. Some men have vaginas too, you cishet scum.

    Although, if it does turn out that Moldilocks was a woman, remember. We were the ones who tried to keep them out of combat.

    First couple of times I saw the clip I genuinely wasn’t sure if it was male or female.

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  90. @Steve Sailer
    Right.

    It might depend on the person’s intent. Did Based Stick Man “go in disguise” or was he wearing a respirator (more broadly, was his face obscured) for some other purpose?

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  91. @guest
    Racists white racists like Morrissey because he doesn't sing blackly. (Melismatically and, for lack of a better term, unmusically, with the grunts and squeaks and such.) He doesn't exactly sing straight, but there's an openness and a clarity which only white supremacists enjoy.

    Chicanos love Morrissey.

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    • Replies: @guest
    Must be White Hispanics.
    , @Desiderius
    Who doesn't?

    He was massive in Manchester in the late 80s.
    , @Cagey Beast
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFbzX3GFhm8
  92. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Here is a good precis of the Moldylocks - Damigo fracas. Comparing this with the nonsense she was spouting in the MSM interview yesterday, you can see what a vile cretin she is. Total Lies & playing the sympathy card when she is 110% at fault as an aggressor. The main punch she received was relatively mild vs what she was due.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bHf6j1T5o&feature=youtu.be

    “Total lies & playing the sympathy card when she is 110% at fault as an aggressor”

    She is a woman.

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  93. @guest
    Racists white racists like Morrissey because he doesn't sing blackly. (Melismatically and, for lack of a better term, unmusically, with the grunts and squeaks and such.) He doesn't exactly sing straight, but there's an openness and a clarity which only white supremacists enjoy.

    I like Morrissey’s sense of humour and his singing style. I particularly like that song for its Irishness and the shot he takes at the rehabilitation of Oliver Cromwell, the first Bolshevik.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius

    the first Bolshevik
     
    What about Catiline?

    Though the honor probably would properly go to Cain.
  94. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @guest
    Racists white racists like Morrissey because he doesn't sing blackly. (Melismatically and, for lack of a better term, unmusically, with the grunts and squeaks and such.) He doesn't exactly sing straight, but there's an openness and a clarity which only white supremacists enjoy.

    Morrissey got in trouble for saying that Britain should remain British.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/morrissey-blames-immigration-for-disappearance-of-british-identity-760825.html

    Which makes it extra funny when people find out how much Mexican-Americans like him.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/10/08/why-do-mexican-americans-love-morrissey-so-much/

    It really is very odd. But I guess it’s really no different than the fact that Mexicans have embraced America’s hot-rod, greaser culture.

    It makes me wish American-Americans hadn’t abandoned something so iconically American, honestly.

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  95. @Cagey Beast
    I like Morrissey's sense of humour and his singing style. I particularly like that song for its Irishness and the shot he takes at the rehabilitation of Oliver Cromwell, the first Bolshevik.

    the first Bolshevik

    What about Catiline?

    Though the honor probably would properly go to Cain.

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  96. @Mr. Anon

    By the way, on the issue of who the real fascists are – these fine folks in the picture Steve posted are 100% grade A fascist squadristi straight from the old days.
     
    No, they are communists of one stripe or another. Fascists bathe.

    The Duce, by the way, was a convinced and active member of the Socialist Party before he ever was the Duce.
     
    And before he became Il Duce, he stopped being a socialist, and started being a fascist. Just because Jonah Goldberg was confused about the political taxonomy of 20th century Europe, doesn't mean that you have to be too.

    Well, if you want to do political taxonomy, then by conventional designations, the Black Bloc fellows are Anarchists – and historically, the Anarchists had serious beef with the Communists.

    But let’s not do political taxonomy. I made a simple point – the original Blackshirts were Mussolini’s Italian fascist thugs. Calling the Black Bloc “Communist” or “Anarchist” is not interesting or valuable, because that’s what they purport to be anyway. But pointing out that in their getup and actions they are pure Fascists is critical exactly because they pretend to oppose Fascism.

    Nietzsche said one should watch out when battling monsters lest one turns into a monster oneself. Looks like in the case of the Black Bloc (and “AntiFa” in general), he was right.

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    Oh give it up. This "far leftists are the real fascists" approach has been tried for decades and you will recruit zero leftists to the anti-antifa with it. Anarchists and communists may have beef with each other but one thing you never, ever see is anarchists or communists trying to gain right-wing allies against the other by insisting that those other types of leftists are the evil ones.

    The antifas have nothing in common with blackshirts besides the color of the flag. They have plenty of ideological comparisons in the groups that these right-wing paramilitaries of the 1920s fought. Of course the comparison isn't good for talking points because most people have never heard of them - Western universities now produce students who can name countless right-wing paramilitaries from distant countries in distant times but who cannot name a single leftist paramilitary from any time.
    , @Tulip
    Communist opposition leader Leon Trotsky noted: "The historic function of fascism is to smash the working class, destroy its organizations, and stifle political liberties when the capitalists find themselves unable to govern and dominate with the help of democratic machinery."

    There is no better way to smash the working class save through open borders and "free trade" (e.g. labor arbitrage with the developing world). Further, the people Trump claims to champion are the working class, which are the same people the antifa despise. Immigrants are the reserve army of capitalism, and the antifa are the vigilante shock troops of globalist imperialist repression.

    The antifa are textbook fascists from a traditional communist perspective.

    , @ben tillman

    Nietzsche said one should watch out when battling monsters lest one turns into a monster oneself. Looks like in the case of the Black Bloc (and “AntiFa” in general), he was right.
     
    Actually, the Nazis are the best example.
    , @Mr. Anon

    But let’s not do political taxonomy. I made a simple point – the original Blackshirts were Mussolini’s Italian fascist thugs. Calling the Black Bloc “Communist” or “Anarchist” is not interesting or valuable, because that’s what they purport to be anyway. But pointing out that in their getup and actions they are pure Fascists is critical exactly because they pretend to oppose Fascism.
     
    No, it is just historical ignorance on your part. There is a difference between beliefs, policies, and tactics. Both the right and the left have employed street-thugs. That doesn't mean the right and the left are the same. Antifa are leftists, not rightists. They are certainly NOT fascists.
  97. @TheBoom
    Any thoughts on why Sessions is not the slightest bit interested in cracking down on street thugs that terrorize Trump voters (and anyone else they disagree with with)?

    Stopping Antifa et al is about preserving the 1st amendment which is far ore important than Sessions' jihad against marijuana. It isn't like this problem is an obscure one. Left wing thugs, often paid, have been beating up Trump supporters ever since at least Chicago in the early primaries.

    All I know the protype for these goons go back 20 years to the Seattle WTO riots where I first noticed them. They seem to show up at every legit protest to ruin it and bully conservatives foolish enough to hold a public rally in a liberal city.

    Anti-fa itself originated in Europe among fanatical white communist youth where it seems to have the backing of the Merkel government.

    No one to my knowledge has ever investigated anti-fa/black-bloc here as to who is financing it and who in the Democratic party is protecting it. For the most part they seem to operate with impunity in liberal run cities.

    The reason Session’s can’t do much about this is because his people aren’t position yet within the DOJ, and it’s a lot.

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    The reason Session’s can’t do much about this is because his people aren’t position yet within the DOJ
     
    Yet? More like ever. The permanent government hasn't answered to the merely-elected "government" for a long time. Whatever it may say in the "social studies" textbooks, in reality the "DOJ" doesn't answer to Sessions. They will do as they want regardless of what Sessions may want. There is no "getting his people in position". There is nothing Sessions can do to "take control" of the permanent bureaucrats, just as there's nothing Trump can do to "drain the swamp". Because the (permanent) Exectutive Branch does not answer to the (temporary, merely-elected) President; more like the other way around. Voting does not change anything, because it cannot change anything.
  98. Apparently, police at Auburn University (where Richard Spencer was speaking today) have got the memo on dealing with masks: https://twitter.com/MichaelJonesAU/status/854478229691879425

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  99. @donut
    I spent a couple of summers on a cable repair ship up in the Aleutians . I think we saw the sun maybe two or three times for an afternoon , the rest of the time it was solid cloud cover . Once in July they came to call out the watch and the temp was in the 30's . We would be stationary hooked to the cable and at night with all the deck lights on we were the biggest show in town . The ship would be surrounded by hundreds of gulls and a fair number of seals I guess . All just sitting in the water watching us .

    I used to wonder what kind of world view the prehistoric Aleuts had .

    There was a story , apocryphal I suppose , about the Reeve Aleutian Airways pilots . One time the airport was fogged in which was not uncommon and was closed to traffic . The control tower got a call from an Aleutian Airways flight requesting they turn on their runway lights . The tower responded that the airport was closed down due to low vis. The pilot responded that he had already landed and just wanted the lights on so he could find the terminal .

    I know somebody who built up hours in a C-212-200 dropping meat bombs for a skydiving service after they got rid of their D-18S, then flew the same type all-cargo for ATS in Alaska as a summer job during college. One day on final approach to an uncontrolled field, a combination of snow-covered terrain, solid overcast and blowing snow led to an absolute white-out and perfect conditions for a CFIT.
    This person was the PF descending on instruments while the PNF scanned for visual contact with the runway. It never came. Just as the PF was deciding to abort, Wham! The main left gear buckled and ground-looped them. Said the PNF when they skidded to a halt, “I see the runway now.”

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  100. @Jack Hanson
    Read what I said: I didn't say he banned it, I said he wrecked it being used as a labor mill for Silicon Valley.

    He signed an order for executive agencies to study whether the system is being abused, which is tantamount to a physician ordering tests to check whether one’s HIV or cancer are deleterious to one’s health.

    He could instead if course, have skipped the horsepucky and proceeded with meaningful action.

    He could (yes, by himself, without legislative action and entirely in compliance with the enabling legislation) order the state department to rigorously review every single application to ensure a bona fide extraordinary skill unavailable otherwise is at stake; he could promulgate regulations to enforce the statute much more strictly.

    He could also be proposing and supporting legislation to end the programme.

    He is instead making what amount to suggestions that an entrenched bureaucracy with little if any interest in stopping the program’s abuses investigate whether those abuses exist.

    Why? Because it’s kabuki theater all the way down, like his immigration deportation programme writ large, which as I mathematically deminstrated in a previous comment is on track to oust all the illegal aliens by 2628 while ensuring long before then all the street signs are printed in Chinese and Urdu.

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  101. @guest
    You have to establish intent to disrupt another's enjoyment of his rights. If Stickman was not on the side of the disruptors, and would be perfectly happy to take his mask off in the event of the commie thugs quitting the field of battle, then no.

    Of course, it'd be hard to establish such facts in the thick of things, so he could be arrested.

    “You have to establish intent to disrupt another’s enjoyment of his rights.”

    No, the intent is already established when one attends a demonstration wearing a mask.

    “If Stickman was not on the side of the disruptors, and would be perfectly happy to take his mask off in the event of the commie thugs quitting the field of battle, then no.”

    Then the same logic would apply to those leftist mask wearers when asked to take off their identity cover, right?

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    • Replies: @jill
    DC prosecutors are on the ball: They know what intent is...

    Feb. 22 (UPI) -- A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday indicted more than 200 people arrested during the presidential inauguration on felony rioting charges, spotlighting their intent to sabotage peaceful protests with violence and destruction.

    Called out for individual acts of vandalism, violence and destruction, prosecutors alleged Tuesday that 214 protesters engaged in "black bloc" tactics on Jan. 20 during President Donald Trump's swearing-in, causing damage to vehicles and property. Six police officers were also hurt during the riots as they exchanged flash-bang explosives with protesters hurling rocks and firecrackers at them.

    "Black bloc" protest tactics, which have been used by some protesters for decades, include dressing in black or dark colored clothing while concealing one's face using scarves, masks and sunglasses. Some of the protesters brought with them hammers, crowbars, bricks, rocks, flares and
    firecrackers.

    http://www.upi.com/More-than-200-Inauguration-Day-protesters-indicted-for-rioting/9231487744646/
  102. @anon
    Theoretically, but if the police had done their job and hauled off the antifa like they were supposed to, he could have just taken off his respirator before the protest and not been "masked". Thus rendering your point moot, like basically everything else you say.

    “Theoretically, but if the police had done their job and hauled off the antifa like they were supposed to…”

    If and when those individuals begin to commit a crime. There mere presence does not mean the cops will automatically haul them to jail. Were you asleep in civics class?

    “…he could have just taken off his respirator before the protest and not been “masked”. Thus rendering your point moot, like basically everything else you say.”

    Mr. Sailer agreed with me, so there!

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    • Replies: @anon
    If and when those individuals begin to commit a crime. There mere presence does not mean the cops will automatically haul them to jail. Were you asleep in civics class?

    Have you already forgotten that we were discussing the fact that wearing a mask to protest is a crime?

    You're really dumb.
  103. @anon
    IBM is OK with H1B changes.

    "Schroeter also remarked on the H1B visa program, saying that any changes made to the program wouldn't impact IBM's business. President Donald Trump unveiled a new executive order on the H1B visa program Tuesday morning.

    "We would encourage some changes to that H1B visa program, really to reign it in and use as we do," he said.

    "There are, clearly, some companies that have built an entire business model around that H1B visa program, which was not at all the intent. So, we would encourage some changes to the program. They don't have a material impact on us if they were to change it because we're using it in the right way, which is again, short-term, high-skills," Schroeter said."

    The IBM business model is vastly different then let’s say Googles’. For example, new contracts for software development are overseen by a stateside team leader and parts of the contract are piece-mealed out to sub contractors located all over the planet. No need to import foreign workers.

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  104. @Corvinus
    "You have to establish intent to disrupt another’s enjoyment of his rights."

    No, the intent is already established when one attends a demonstration wearing a mask.

    "If Stickman was not on the side of the disruptors, and would be perfectly happy to take his mask off in the event of the commie thugs quitting the field of battle, then no."

    Then the same logic would apply to those leftist mask wearers when asked to take off their identity cover, right?

    DC prosecutors are on the ball: They know what intent is…

    Feb. 22 (UPI) — A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday indicted more than 200 people arrested during the presidential inauguration on felony rioting charges, spotlighting their intent to sabotage peaceful protests with violence and destruction.

    Called out for individual acts of vandalism, violence and destruction, prosecutors alleged Tuesday that 214 protesters engaged in “black bloc” tactics on Jan. 20 during President Donald Trump’s swearing-in, causing damage to vehicles and property. Six police officers were also hurt during the riots as they exchanged flash-bang explosives with protesters hurling rocks and firecrackers at them.

    “Black bloc” protest tactics, which have been used by some protesters for decades, include dressing in black or dark colored clothing while concealing one’s face using scarves, masks and sunglasses. Some of the protesters brought with them hammers, crowbars, bricks, rocks, flares and
    firecrackers.

    http://www.upi.com/More-than-200-Inauguration-Day-protesters-indicted-for-rioting/9231487744646/

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  105. @Jack Hanson
    Trump blew the pylons out from H1B today and most of you eeyores are STILL moaning on about cruise missiles in Syria.

    No wonder you could be safely ignored during the election.

    Some of us eeyores remember when nuclear war was an issue which was taken seriously.

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  106. @JohnnyD
    The Left is so deluded that they're blaming Trump supporters for the violence in Berkeley. They also claim that the "anti-fascists" were nonviolent and peaceful. What planet are these people living on?
    http://www.salon.com/2017/04/18/pro-trump-rioters-got-away-with-beating-anti-fascists-in-berkeley-and-they-likely-wont-stop-there/

    People’s primeval brains will read this as: “Trump supporters beat the crap out of leftists.” It makes them look dominant.

    The regular Salon readers who will get all weepy over this were never going to become conservative or moderate anyway.

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    @Corvinus
    "Theoretically, but if the police had done their job and hauled off the antifa like they were supposed to..."

    If and when those individuals begin to commit a crime. There mere presence does not mean the cops will automatically haul them to jail. Were you asleep in civics class?

    "...he could have just taken off his respirator before the protest and not been “masked”. Thus rendering your point moot, like basically everything else you say."

    Mr. Sailer agreed with me, so there!

    If and when those individuals begin to commit a crime. There mere presence does not mean the cops will automatically haul them to jail. Were you asleep in civics class?

    Have you already forgotten that we were discussing the fact that wearing a mask to protest is a crime?

    You’re really dumb.

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  108. @jimbojones
    Well, if you want to do political taxonomy, then by conventional designations, the Black Bloc fellows are Anarchists - and historically, the Anarchists had serious beef with the Communists.

    But let's not do political taxonomy. I made a simple point - the original Blackshirts were Mussolini's Italian fascist thugs. Calling the Black Bloc "Communist" or "Anarchist" is not interesting or valuable, because that's what they purport to be anyway. But pointing out that in their getup and actions they are pure Fascists is critical exactly because they pretend to oppose Fascism.

    Nietzsche said one should watch out when battling monsters lest one turns into a monster oneself. Looks like in the case of the Black Bloc (and "AntiFa" in general), he was right.

    Oh give it up. This “far leftists are the real fascists” approach has been tried for decades and you will recruit zero leftists to the anti-antifa with it. Anarchists and communists may have beef with each other but one thing you never, ever see is anarchists or communists trying to gain right-wing allies against the other by insisting that those other types of leftists are the evil ones.

    The antifas have nothing in common with blackshirts besides the color of the flag. They have plenty of ideological comparisons in the groups that these right-wing paramilitaries of the 1920s fought. Of course the comparison isn’t good for talking points because most people have never heard of them – Western universities now produce students who can name countless right-wing paramilitaries from distant countries in distant times but who cannot name a single leftist paramilitary from any time.

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  109. @Thomas
    Apparently, police at Auburn University (where Richard Spencer was speaking today) have got the memo on dealing with masks: https://twitter.com/MichaelJonesAU/status/854478229691879425

    Haha that’s awesome

    PWNED

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  110. The problem is that when a conservative speaker is shouted down, th university usually is happy and doesn’t do anything, and the city is happy to keep its police out of trouble. So criminal prosecution is out as a solution. So bring a civil case. The obvious one is violation of civil rights. I don’t know that law well enough, but I think it’s just for state actors, which means no private universities or students can be sued. Also, it’s not an easy winner to target a state university for this, which is possible. A recent leftist tactic, however, is to try to keep the speaker from leaving (keeping him from arriving might work too). And, maybe one can sue individuals in tort for the civil rights criminal violation cited in the original post.
    I would think that blocking somebody’s car in this way, with apparent intent to detain them indefinitely against their will, is an example of the crime of “criminal confinement” (which would differ across states). If somebody has the time to research this a bit, it might be helpful in dealing with future attempts to intimidate speakers. See: Indiana § 35-42-3-3 (a) “A person who knowingly or intentionally confines another person without the other person’s consent commits criminal confinement. Except as provided in subsection (b), the offense of criminal confinement is a Level 6 felony.” This could be the basic tort allegation, easily proved with videotape. At Indiana, one student even gave his name when he boasted about blocking Charles Murray. The defendants would be the individual students and outside agitators, the leftwing organizations that choreograph the crime, the university that is complicit, and the university officials as individuals. Another detail: call the city police before the event and ask them to help. They will say the campus cops will handle it. That helps in suing the university when the campus cops stand by. The suit will be expensive and slow, but ask the court to make the other side pay your legal fees. Also, make it clear that you will go after the individual defendants’ assets first. For extra fun, perhaps add the students’ parents, using the novel legal theory that nowadays 20-year-old dependents should be treated as children for this purpose.

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  111. @Lot
    Reason 1, Pinker is a tenured Harvard professor so more powerful than Murray. Reason 2, Pinker never has and never will touch the black IQ issue.

    Reason 1, Pinker is a tenured Harvard professor so more powerful than Murray.
    Reason 2, Pinker never has and never will touch the black IQ issue.

    You missed one.

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  112. @anonymous
    How so? Please use the exact words in the statute, i.e., specify whose protected right to what is impacted by private persons urging or participating in a boycott.

    Or maybe your humor eludes me.

    I’m referring to the first paragraph of the statute (as quoted above by Steve). So in particular, take Brendan Eich. He did his job, he kept his politics at home, but he contributed money to a political campaign — that’s the exercise of one of his Constitutional rights — that some people didn’t approve of. And for that they pressured his company to fire him.

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  113. @jimbojones
    Well, if you want to do political taxonomy, then by conventional designations, the Black Bloc fellows are Anarchists - and historically, the Anarchists had serious beef with the Communists.

    But let's not do political taxonomy. I made a simple point - the original Blackshirts were Mussolini's Italian fascist thugs. Calling the Black Bloc "Communist" or "Anarchist" is not interesting or valuable, because that's what they purport to be anyway. But pointing out that in their getup and actions they are pure Fascists is critical exactly because they pretend to oppose Fascism.

    Nietzsche said one should watch out when battling monsters lest one turns into a monster oneself. Looks like in the case of the Black Bloc (and "AntiFa" in general), he was right.

    Communist opposition leader Leon Trotsky noted: “The historic function of fascism is to smash the working class, destroy its organizations, and stifle political liberties when the capitalists find themselves unable to govern and dominate with the help of democratic machinery.”

    There is no better way to smash the working class save through open borders and “free trade” (e.g. labor arbitrage with the developing world). Further, the people Trump claims to champion are the working class, which are the same people the antifa despise. Immigrants are the reserve army of capitalism, and the antifa are the vigilante shock troops of globalist imperialist repression.

    The antifa are textbook fascists from a traditional communist perspective.

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    On the other hand, you could also take the definition of fascism from Soviet newspapers in 1940 announcing the death of the fascist Trotsky, the enemy of the workers, the butcher of liberties and so on. Letting a communist define fascism is like letting an atheist define faith.

    When someone like Trotsky claimed that workers under some system or country were being smashed what they of course meant that the (heavily Jewish) communist intelligentsia claiming to represent the workers was prevented from claiming leadership of the working class. Whether or not the working class was doing well was irrelevant and in fact one way the fascists were undermining communism was by treating the working class relatively well which of course just enraged the communists even further.

    It's not that different today with leftist intelligentsia claiming leadership of not just the working class but People of Color, LGBT and whatever - PoC are being oppressed, by definition, if the upper middle class white and Jewish leftists are not in charge of them.
  114. Thought experiment:

    What if the Pro-Life Movement adopted Antifa tactics against say mainstream proponents of abortion rights when they attempted to speak? How would the media respond, the police, the courts?

    Perhaps tweeting before “nonviolent protests” their intentions to come back with 100 pro-life scalps?

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    • Replies: @Thea
    Ideology no longer matters. It doesn't matter to antifa nor to the so-called alt-right.

    It is us vs. them. We can try to breed our way out of this mess or ... Our way out of this mess but we can't vote our way out. The time to change hearts and minds has passed.

    During the election Assange said it doesn't matter who wins because they will just have marry into the same beauracracy.

  115. @Corvinus
    Bust those protestors who wear masks. Stickman would also be in violation of the appropriate statute. It's the law, right?

    Ah, but you forget “enforcement discretion.” Did not the Kenyan show us how much is possible by the judicious application of this aspect of executive branch decision making? How about a DACA program for street fighters wearing MAGA insignia?

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  116. @jimbojones
    Well, if you want to do political taxonomy, then by conventional designations, the Black Bloc fellows are Anarchists - and historically, the Anarchists had serious beef with the Communists.

    But let's not do political taxonomy. I made a simple point - the original Blackshirts were Mussolini's Italian fascist thugs. Calling the Black Bloc "Communist" or "Anarchist" is not interesting or valuable, because that's what they purport to be anyway. But pointing out that in their getup and actions they are pure Fascists is critical exactly because they pretend to oppose Fascism.

    Nietzsche said one should watch out when battling monsters lest one turns into a monster oneself. Looks like in the case of the Black Bloc (and "AntiFa" in general), he was right.

    Nietzsche said one should watch out when battling monsters lest one turns into a monster oneself. Looks like in the case of the Black Bloc (and “AntiFa” in general), he was right.

    Actually, the Nazis are the best example.

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  117. @Tulip
    Communist opposition leader Leon Trotsky noted: "The historic function of fascism is to smash the working class, destroy its organizations, and stifle political liberties when the capitalists find themselves unable to govern and dominate with the help of democratic machinery."

    There is no better way to smash the working class save through open borders and "free trade" (e.g. labor arbitrage with the developing world). Further, the people Trump claims to champion are the working class, which are the same people the antifa despise. Immigrants are the reserve army of capitalism, and the antifa are the vigilante shock troops of globalist imperialist repression.

    The antifa are textbook fascists from a traditional communist perspective.

    On the other hand, you could also take the definition of fascism from Soviet newspapers in 1940 announcing the death of the fascist Trotsky, the enemy of the workers, the butcher of liberties and so on. Letting a communist define fascism is like letting an atheist define faith.

    When someone like Trotsky claimed that workers under some system or country were being smashed what they of course meant that the (heavily Jewish) communist intelligentsia claiming to represent the workers was prevented from claiming leadership of the working class. Whether or not the working class was doing well was irrelevant and in fact one way the fascists were undermining communism was by treating the working class relatively well which of course just enraged the communists even further.

    It’s not that different today with leftist intelligentsia claiming leadership of not just the working class but People of Color, LGBT and whatever – PoC are being oppressed, by definition, if the upper middle class white and Jewish leftists are not in charge of them.

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  118. @Jack Hanson
    They don't have criticisms. They have an endless stream of bitching that is wrong consistently.

    There's criticism and there's non stop eeyore. Guess what 90% of this place has been when its not hold courses and trying to figure out how much Jew is in someone's 23andMe?

    I don’t see it that way, Jack. I’m not sure if your bitching criticism here is about Sailer’s blogs or unz.com in general, first of all. From Steve Sailer, we get his take on the stupid goings-on in modern society, specifically stuff that is ruining the country, and he does tend to drill down very deeply in some specific areas that may be of no concern at all to many people. The stuff is usually interesting to me, however. The commenters, since there are many, get into even more detail, but I don’t think it’s all bitching – I don’t see that.

    You are probably right that the bloggers and commenters are more thinking than action type of people, but you never know what people are like off-line. If I were to get involved in really fighting some of the globalist/commie crap that is coming down on us, I wouldn’t get into any details at all online.

    If it’s specific to Trump, listen, we are all glad he won, but he is NOT doing all he can do, just with his basic administrative powers inherent in the presidency. If he ends up not being the leader people want, someone else has got to step up, that’s all. It won’t be someone else from our current Feral Gov’t, as they are pretty much all on the same team.

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  119. “Black bloc” protest tactics, which have been used by some protesters for decades, include dressing in black or dark colored clothing while concealing one’s face using scarves, masks and sunglasses. Some of the protesters brought with them hammers, crowbars, bricks, rocks, flares and firecrackers.

    But not guns, thank Ahriman. Evidently these protesters are so scared of guns*, they would never consider bringing them, no matter how murderous.

    * – Not a rational fear of the dangers of guns, such as accidentally shooting one of their own troops, but a dogma that guns are somehow a metaphysical evil.

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  120. @Jack Chick's Dick

    “Black bloc” protest tactics, which have been used by some protesters for decades, include dressing in black or dark colored clothing while concealing one’s face using scarves, masks and sunglasses. Some of the protesters brought with them hammers, crowbars, bricks, rocks, flares and firecrackers.
     
    But not guns, thank Ahriman. Evidently these protesters are so scared of guns*, they would never consider bringing them, no matter how murderous.

    * - Not a rational fear of the dangers of guns, such as accidentally shooting one of their own troops, but a dogma that guns are somehow a metaphysical evil.

    Gun violence is what black people are for.

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  121. @Jack Hanson
    Read what I said: I didn't say he banned it, I said he wrecked it being used as a labor mill for Silicon Valley.

    Read what I said: I didn’t say he banned it, I said he wrecked it being used as a labor mill for Silicon Valley.

    He didn’t do that either. See Autochthon’s comment.

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  122. @jimbojones
    Well, if you want to do political taxonomy, then by conventional designations, the Black Bloc fellows are Anarchists - and historically, the Anarchists had serious beef with the Communists.

    But let's not do political taxonomy. I made a simple point - the original Blackshirts were Mussolini's Italian fascist thugs. Calling the Black Bloc "Communist" or "Anarchist" is not interesting or valuable, because that's what they purport to be anyway. But pointing out that in their getup and actions they are pure Fascists is critical exactly because they pretend to oppose Fascism.

    Nietzsche said one should watch out when battling monsters lest one turns into a monster oneself. Looks like in the case of the Black Bloc (and "AntiFa" in general), he was right.

    But let’s not do political taxonomy. I made a simple point – the original Blackshirts were Mussolini’s Italian fascist thugs. Calling the Black Bloc “Communist” or “Anarchist” is not interesting or valuable, because that’s what they purport to be anyway. But pointing out that in their getup and actions they are pure Fascists is critical exactly because they pretend to oppose Fascism.

    No, it is just historical ignorance on your part. There is a difference between beliefs, policies, and tactics. Both the right and the left have employed street-thugs. That doesn’t mean the right and the left are the same. Antifa are leftists, not rightists. They are certainly NOT fascists.

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  123. @Jaakko Raipala
    Oh give it up. This "far leftists are the real fascists" approach has been tried for decades and you will recruit zero leftists to the anti-antifa with it. Anarchists and communists may have beef with each other but one thing you never, ever see is anarchists or communists trying to gain right-wing allies against the other by insisting that those other types of leftists are the evil ones.

    The antifas have nothing in common with blackshirts besides the color of the flag. They have plenty of ideological comparisons in the groups that these right-wing paramilitaries of the 1920s fought. Of course the comparison isn't good for talking points because most people have never heard of them - Western universities now produce students who can name countless right-wing paramilitaries from distant countries in distant times but who cannot name a single leftist paramilitary from any time.

    Quite right.

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  124. @Rod1963
    All I know the protype for these goons go back 20 years to the Seattle WTO riots where I first noticed them. They seem to show up at every legit protest to ruin it and bully conservatives foolish enough to hold a public rally in a liberal city.

    Anti-fa itself originated in Europe among fanatical white communist youth where it seems to have the backing of the Merkel government.

    No one to my knowledge has ever investigated anti-fa/black-bloc here as to who is financing it and who in the Democratic party is protecting it. For the most part they seem to operate with impunity in liberal run cities.

    The reason Session's can't do much about this is because his people aren't position yet within the DOJ, and it's a lot.

    The reason Session’s can’t do much about this is because his people aren’t position yet within the DOJ

    Yet? More like ever. The permanent government hasn’t answered to the merely-elected “government” for a long time. Whatever it may say in the “social studies” textbooks, in reality the “DOJ” doesn’t answer to Sessions. They will do as they want regardless of what Sessions may want. There is no “getting his people in position”. There is nothing Sessions can do to “take control” of the permanent bureaucrats, just as there’s nothing Trump can do to “drain the swamp”. Because the (permanent) Exectutive Branch does not answer to the (temporary, merely-elected) President; more like the other way around. Voting does not change anything, because it cannot change anything.

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  125. @Tulip
    Thought experiment:

    What if the Pro-Life Movement adopted Antifa tactics against say mainstream proponents of abortion rights when they attempted to speak? How would the media respond, the police, the courts?

    Perhaps tweeting before "nonviolent protests" their intentions to come back with 100 pro-life scalps?

    Ideology no longer matters. It doesn’t matter to antifa nor to the so-called alt-right.

    It is us vs. them. We can try to breed our way out of this mess or … Our way out of this mess but we can’t vote our way out. The time to change hearts and minds has passed.

    During the election Assange said it doesn’t matter who wins because they will just have marry into the same beauracracy.

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