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Christopher Caldwell is perhaps the finest aphorist in journalism today. For example, I’ve often quoted this sentence from his 2009 book Reflections on the Revolution in Europe:

“One moves swiftly and imperceptibly from a world in which affirmative action can’t be ended because its beneficiaries are too weak to a world in which it can’t be ended because its beneficiaries are too strong.”

From the Claremont Review of Books:

The Browning of America
By: Christopher Caldwell

Posted: March 9, 2015

A review of Diversity Explosion: How New Racial Demographics Are Remaking America, by William H. Frey.

“We believe our diversity, our differences, when joined together by a common set of ideals, makes us stronger, makes us more creative, makes us different,” Barack Obama pronounced at a citizenship ceremony last Fourth of July. Until half a century ago most serious historians would have called such an opinion ignorant or naïve. Ethnic diversity implies cultural diversity—if it did not, ethnic diversity would soon disappear. Cultural diversity means division, division means weakness, and weakness means, eventually, unfreedom.

Such, at least, is the traditional view, and history appears to vindicate it. … Diversity has been the form of belonging that typifies empires, just as nationality has been the form that typifies republics. … The motto E pluribus unum is a sign that the founders saw diversity as a challenge to be mastered, not a resource to be tapped.

Yet “diversity” today is a sacred term. …

* * *

… Frey sometimes describes this change as “the browning of America.” More than half (53%) of the country’s 3,100 counties had declining white populations by the first decade of the century. In the current decade the white population has begun to decline in the nation as a whole. Metropolitan New York and metropolitan Los Angeles have each lost a million white people since 1990. Fewer than half the babies born in 2011 were in the U.S. Census category of “non-Hispanic whites.” Three years from now most Americans under 18 will be “minorities” of one kind or another. In 1970, there were only two cities with more than a million black residents: New York and Chicago. Now there are seven. Los Angeles County and adjoining Riverside County have 6.1 million Hispanics.

In days when people spoke more freely about such matters, dramatic change in the dominant population of the world’s dominant power would have been occasion for speculation and worry.

… Frey’s attitude toward these changes is much the same as President Obama’s: demographically, America is bound for glory.

… Yet Frey could do with a reminder that what he is celebrating in passages like these is youth, not diversity, that natives ought to be as capable of bearing the next generation of children as the foreign-born, that their failure to do so may be an effect of something dire rather than the cause of something to be “celebrated,” and that policymakers have seldom been able to predict the outcomes of wholesale demographic change.

… An economy built around mass immigration may lead to underinvestment in the future. Indeed, this may constitute an off-balance-sheet liability that makes the apparent economic benefits of immigration illusory.

… “It is safe to predict that racial classifications will be modified in the future as multiracial marriages and populations proliferate,” Frey writes. But this prediction is not safe at all. There now exists a market of racial classifications. Whether such classifications as “black” and “Hispanic” get modified will depend on whether they continue to produce jobs, promotions and college placements. In the case of “Hispanic,” if a classification is something you can be incentivized to belong to, then it doesn’t meet anyone’s commonsense definition of a race. A faulty classification produces a faulty reading of society. To argue that Hispanics should or should not be eligible for programs of racial integration designed for blacks in the shadow of Jim Crow is to put the cart before the horse. We have these categories in the first place only to promote people’s insertion into race-based programs.

… For the first time since slavery, immigration accounts for as much population growth among blacks as it does in the country at large. Over the past 20 years millions have arrived from West Africa, the Horn of Africa, and the Caribbean—a wave so large that a tenth of American blacks are now immigrants.

… By measures not just of segregation but also of income, poverty, and educational attainment, blacks today do considerably better in states that were segregated until the 1960s than in states that were not.

… Frey finds a strange asymmetry in such racially mixed marriages: three quarters are between black men and white women.

… In a 1973 episode of “All in the Family,” Archie Bunker spoke of a co-worker everyone called Black Elmo, “so’s not to get him mixed up with regular Elmo.” Sophisticates have long belittled the worldview that white people are the only “regular” Americans. Yet we have built our official racial policy around exactly this conception. Our politics, as rejiggered by civil rights laws and affirmative action, assumes a mainstream culture, and the ebbing of the white majority in the United States is going to present genuine governing problems. Frey consistently fails to see this. “Although whites are still considered the mainstream in the United States,” he writes, “that perception should eventually shift.”

But how can it and why should it? Affirmative action has become such a lucrative source of privilege that lobbying has made it impregnable, even in a country that has shown, by twice electing a black president, that it has no need of it. But our regime of affirmative action requires a majority sensitive to pangs of conscience.

Hence, all the denunciations of cisgender straight white male privilege murdering black baby bodies.

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… But once whites are a negligible part of the electorate, whose incomes (or life expectancies, or college achievements) are aggrieved minorities’ to be contrasted with? If blacks remain poor when whites are merely another L.A. minority, what kind of remedies will be suggested by the Mexican-American power structure and its Asian supporters? If whites are poorer than, say, Asians, against whose incomes will the poorest minorities’ be calibrated? Assuming whites cannot be transformed from a repentant majority into a scapegoat minority (on the model of European Jews historically, or the Chinese in Southeast Asia more recently), then our ability to make “voluntary” inter-ethnic transfers of money, jobs, and prestige may be nearing its end.

We’re seeing the emergence of the concept of a “legacy majority,” tainted by blood, that will forever remain responsible for the shortcomings of other groups.

When the current wave of 50th anniversaries of commemorations of events of the Civil Rights Era concludes in April 2018 with the assassination of Martin Luther King, we’ll just start over again with the 60th anniversaries.

… Should whites cease to be the majority, they will then become, by definition, just another subgroup. They show signs of following the interest-group logic that, since the 1960s and especially in the last decade, has “racialized” the politics of all other subgroups. … In Georgia last fall, Democrat Michelle Nunn, an impressive candidate and the daughter of a long-beloved U.S. senator, lost after getting only 23% of the white vote.

… “Future elections like this one,” Frey writes of 2012, “will not be demographically sustainable.” One fears he means politically sustainable.

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  1. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    One thing that can be done is to divide Hispanics into ‘white’ and ‘non-white’.

    That way, whites(non-Hispanic and Hispanic) could remain the majority for much longer.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    One thing that can be done is to divide Hispanics into ‘white’ and ‘non-white’.

    That way, whites(non-Hispanic and Hispanic) could remain the majority for much longer.
     
    An even better method would involve scrapping the "Hispanic" category altogether.Just have people list themselves as Caucasoid, Black, Amerind, East Asian, etc.
    , @ben tillman

    One thing that can be done is to divide Hispanics into ‘white’ and ‘non-white’.

    That way, whites(non-Hispanic and Hispanic) could remain the majority for much longer.
     

    While we're at it, let's reclassify Blacks and East Asians and West Asians as "white" as well. Perpetual "white" majority -- hooray!
    , @Joe Walker
    There are very few true Hispanic whites since most Hispanics have non-white ancestry. Pretending someone is white doesn't make them so.
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  2. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    F-action makes no sense.

    So, if a Polish immigrant(many of whose ancestors died in WWII) and a Nigerian immigrant(whose ancestors captured and sold slaves to whites and Arabs) arrive in America as immigrants, the Polish-American immigrant has to foot the bill for F-action for the Nigerian-American immigrant?

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  3. There are two groups of people: those capable of maintaining civilization and those not. In civilization, many of the not group have become empowered as one victim class or another.

    Enter climate change and peak everything. The current challenge is to construct a new civilization that is resilient. When the burden of outdated notions of social comfort (i.e. taking care of the diversitariate) gives way to sustainable ideas (i.e. those peoples who built modernity resolve to preserve themselves), then the victim class diversitariate will disappear from the sands of time.

    Think of it as Peak Diversity.

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  4. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    If you’re non-Hispanic white, marry a Hispanic white and then your kids will be ‘Hispanic’ and get F-action.

    Or mark Denisovan or Neanderthal on your admission application.

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  5. @Priss Factor
    One thing that can be done is to divide Hispanics into 'white' and 'non-white'.

    That way, whites(non-Hispanic and Hispanic) could remain the majority for much longer.

    One thing that can be done is to divide Hispanics into ‘white’ and ‘non-white’.

    That way, whites(non-Hispanic and Hispanic) could remain the majority for much longer.

    An even better method would involve scrapping the “Hispanic” category altogether.Just have people list themselves as Caucasoid, Black, Amerind, East Asian, etc.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Genetic testing would be even better and more accurate.
    , @Joe Walker
    But most Hispanics are racially mixed so they would not fit into just one category.
  6. “We’re seeing the emergence of the concept of a “legacy majority,” tainted by blood, that will forever remain responsible for the shortcomings of other groups.”

    Isn’t that what they do in South Africa?

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  7. Two words: South Africa. Also very race-obsessed. Also nonwhite-dominated.

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    • Replies: @Cracker
    And a dangerous place where babies are raped and people install flamethrowers on their cars.
  8. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @syonredux

    One thing that can be done is to divide Hispanics into ‘white’ and ‘non-white’.

    That way, whites(non-Hispanic and Hispanic) could remain the majority for much longer.
     
    An even better method would involve scrapping the "Hispanic" category altogether.Just have people list themselves as Caucasoid, Black, Amerind, East Asian, etc.

    Genetic testing would be even better and more accurate.

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  9. One of my axioms:

    If, of the seven billion people on Earth, just one of them is a straight white gentile cisgendered man, the other 6,999,999,999 people will all be oppressed minorities.

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    • Replies: @silviosilver

    If, of the seven billion people on Earth, just one of them is a straight white gentile cisgendered man, the other 6,999,999,999 people will all be oppressed minorities.
     
    That's the End of History and the Last White Man hypothesis.
  10. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    If diversity is good, why is race-mixing also good when it mongrelizes the races into one?
    And if races get mixed, won’t cultural identities suffer since it gets pretty confusing to maintain an identity that is, say, 1/8 German, 1/8 Chinese, 1/8 Turkish, 1/8 Mexican, 1/8 Italian, 1/8 Jewish, 1/8 black, and 1/8 Hindu. With so many identities, one is likely to be just some generic pop-culture worshiping fool as it will remain the only ‘culture’ that has relevance in our consumer-driven society.

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Do races ever really mix into one? Mixed race countries still tend to be somewhat heterogenous. Out of curiosity, I just looked up the justices of the Brazilian Supreme Court. Justice JOSÉ CELSO DE MELLO FILHO, to pick one example, doesn't exactly look like all the races of Brazil blended together.
    , @Escher
    The largest categories for the salad bowl of mixed ethnicities will likely be "iPhoners" and "Androiders", with old white guys derisively called "Blackberries".
    , @Maj. Kong
    What is Rashida Jones?
    , @Gunnar von Cowtown

    With so many identities, one is likely to be just some generic pop-culture worshiping fool as it will remain the only ‘culture’ that has relevance in our consumer-driven society.
     
    To the powers that be, this is a feature not a bug.
    , @AnAnon
    quit thinking about the doublethink comrade.
  11. Bad, bad stuff.

    And yet, I know there is nothing I can do.

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    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    "Bad, bad stuff.
    And yet, I know there is nothing I can do."

    Too many Mexicans is not good.

    Too many blacks is terrible.

    Even more blacks is horrible.

    If immigration is so good, why not encourage non-whites to immigrate to Africa which is huge and is open to all sorts of opportunities.

    Isn't it 'racist' to say that America should be favored as a destination for immigrants on the assumption that whites rule and manage societies better?

    No! Africans run their own nations with equal degree of Rule of Law.

    Go there!!!

    PS. During the 30s and 40s, did Jews every try from Germany and German-controlled areas to Africa?
    Couldn't white imperialists and African natives have welcomed Jewish talents?

  12. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @SFG
    Bad, bad stuff.

    And yet, I know there is nothing I can do.

    “Bad, bad stuff.
    And yet, I know there is nothing I can do.”

    Too many Mexicans is not good.

    Too many blacks is terrible.

    Even more blacks is horrible.

    If immigration is so good, why not encourage non-whites to immigrate to Africa which is huge and is open to all sorts of opportunities.

    Isn’t it ‘racist’ to say that America should be favored as a destination for immigrants on the assumption that whites rule and manage societies better?

    No! Africans run their own nations with equal degree of Rule of Law.

    Go there!!!

    PS. During the 30s and 40s, did Jews every try from Germany and German-controlled areas to Africa?
    Couldn’t white imperialists and African natives have welcomed Jewish talents?

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    During the 30s and 40s, did Jews ever try [to go] from Germany and German-controlled areas to Africa?
    There was a plan for Jews to resettle in the Dominican Republic, but it didn't work out.

    In March 1938, U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt convened a 32-nation conference at Evian-les-Bains, France, to discuss the resettlement of German and Austrian Jewish refugees to other lands. At that time, the Nazi regime was still agreeing to let Jews emigrate if they transferred their assets to the German government. The assembled nations endorsed the idea of resettlement but agreed that no nation would "be expected or asked to receive a greater number of emigrants than is permitted by existing legislation." Given the immigration restrictionist and anti-Semitic moods of the Depression era, this meant that, in effect, no nation – even the United States – was expected to take more than a few thousand refugees. Only the Dominican Republic, led by dictator Rafael Trujillo, expressed a willingness to accept a significant number - between 50,000 and 100,000 Jews - an offer to which the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee jumped. . . . Despite the promise of escaping Europe, only 50 Jews were able to make their way to the Dominican Republic in the first year of the program. Submarine warfare in the Atlantic and the need to use Allied ships for troops and supplies made it incredibly hard to relocate refugees.
     
    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/sosua.html
  13. @Priss Factor
    If diversity is good, why is race-mixing also good when it mongrelizes the races into one?
    And if races get mixed, won't cultural identities suffer since it gets pretty confusing to maintain an identity that is, say, 1/8 German, 1/8 Chinese, 1/8 Turkish, 1/8 Mexican, 1/8 Italian, 1/8 Jewish, 1/8 black, and 1/8 Hindu. With so many identities, one is likely to be just some generic pop-culture worshiping fool as it will remain the only 'culture' that has relevance in our consumer-driven society.

    Do races ever really mix into one? Mixed race countries still tend to be somewhat heterogenous. Out of curiosity, I just looked up the justices of the Brazilian Supreme Court. Justice JOSÉ CELSO DE MELLO FILHO, to pick one example, doesn’t exactly look like all the races of Brazil blended together.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    JOSÉ ANTONIO DIAS TOFFOLI looks like he's being played by Matt Damon.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    I Googled Justice Celso de Mello ("filho" = "Junior"), but got the racer Edgard de Mello (also a Jr) instead. Edgard's interests are given as aviation, motoring, music, film and "cachorrada". WTF?

    This is Google's first image for cachorrada.

    Be glad Edgard's not on their Supreme Court. Or ours!

    , @silviosilver

    doesn’t exactly look like all the races of Brazil blended together.
     
    They will eventually, because that's the long-term equilibrium that mixing moves towards. Brazil's only had a few hundred years at it, which should be adjusted down to account for the massive waves of European immigration at the start of the 20th century. A much better example of what long-term mixing leads to is India, which long ago wiped out all traces of white appearance in that land. There are some profound racial differences left, but the range of difference is much less than Brazil's.
  14. @Dave Pinsen
    Do races ever really mix into one? Mixed race countries still tend to be somewhat heterogenous. Out of curiosity, I just looked up the justices of the Brazilian Supreme Court. Justice JOSÉ CELSO DE MELLO FILHO, to pick one example, doesn't exactly look like all the races of Brazil blended together.

    JOSÉ ANTONIO DIAS TOFFOLI looks like he’s being played by Matt Damon.

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  15. @Steve Sailer
    JOSÉ ANTONIO DIAS TOFFOLI looks like he's being played by Matt Damon.

    Actually, he does look more like Matt Damon.

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  16. In Georgia last fall, Democrat Michelle Nunn, an impressive candidate and the daughter of a long-beloved U.S. senator, lost after getting only 23% of the white vote.

    An attainable goal for the Republican Party to aim for in the 2016 election would be about 2/3 of the White vote.

    Perhaps the ultimate maximum for the Republican Party will be about 3/4 of the White vote.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    An attainable goal for the Republican Party to aim for in the 2016 election would be about 2/3 of the White vote.

     

    A better, and equally achievable, goal would be reducing Democrats to even less than 1/3 of the white vote. And you don't even have to wait for the Republicans!

    Obama carried the white male vote in all of five states, three with well below-average nonwhite populations, and two with almost no nonwhites at all. If we can get white women down to a similar level, it's over for the Dems. At least for awhile.
    , @notsaying
    #15 -

    Today's Republicans limit the number of white votes they get by being so against the social safety net for people who are not retired.

    There's a lot of white working age voters who aren't doing well. I feel Republicans are very hostile towards these people -- and there are tens of millions of them!

    Even if you don't like Democrats, if you think you may ever be sick or jobless and need help, it's very hard to vote for the Republican Party's candidates who say they don't like you and constantly make it clear they don't want people like you in their party.

    I don't see how the Republican Party can ever hope to get another President into the White House if it doesn' t loosen up and stop picking on working age people who are or may become financially insecure.
    , @Bob
    Why? Who exactly do republicans represent anyway ... they try to represent negros but democrats keep raising their bid of other people's money.
  17. “One thing that can be done is to divide Hispanics into ‘white’ and ‘non-white’.

    That way, whites(non-Hispanic and Hispanic) could remain the majority for much longer.”

    Whites are projected to become a Minority in the U.S no matter what and dividing Hispanics into White and Nonwhite will not change that. The majority of Hispanics/Latino immigrating to the U.S are not Argentines of Italian descent and Southern Brazilians of German descent for example. We are mostly getting Spanish speaking Amerindians/Mestizos from Central America and Mexico.

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  18. Bad, bad stuff.

    And yet, I know there is nothing I can do.

    That’s not necessarily true. Though it seems a lost cause, it is not. You can start by remaining true to your beliefs. You have obviously come to your beliefs despite living in a society that tries to condition you against such beliefs. Discuss your beliefs with your friends, family, etc. and try to convince them as you were convinced yourself. Keep in mind history is not linear, and things can and do change.

    Look at Israel. As Steve wrote a few posts back the conventional wisdom at the end of the 2oth Century was that the Jewish State was demographically doomed. Now just a short time later the projections have changed. They are not exactly out of the woods. Things could change again for the worse. But at least they recognize what is at stake and took appropriate action.

    In Europe more and more people are beginning to spit the bit too. And that attitude will more than likely become more evident in America. I am quite surprised by what people tell me in private that they won’t admit in public. People are aware and they are concerned. But most are waiting for the coast to be clear before they speak.

    I am not telling you that we will ever see the America of the greatest generation again. I am not telling you that you will even live long enough to see that the tide has turned. But I can tell you that other peoples throughout history have gone through worse events. Some came out of it and some did not. There is no guarantee that all is lost.

    The current situation is pretty much self-inflicted, and there are no groups with superior technology or military might that are doing this to us. We are not like the Jews or Kulaks at the hands of the Nazis or Bolsheviks. I imagine they would both roll their eyes at our problems. Even totalitarian regimes like the USSR and Ceaușescu ‘s Romania eventually lost control of the narrative.

    So keep pushing the Samizdat and don’t lose faith in your beliefs.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    Look at Israel. As Steve wrote a few posts back the conventional wisdom at the end of the 2oth Century was that the Jewish State was demographically doomed. Now just a short time later the projections have changed. They are not exactly out of the woods. Things could change again for the worse. But at least they recognize what is at stake and took appropriate action.
     
    Sadly, we cannot look to Israel.The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel.The White American elite, in contrast, is committed to mass immigration/open borders.
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    Hispanic is just an umbrella term for anyone coming from certain geographic areas. Racially it’s anything that was thrown into the blender in some places and many have little in common with each other. I sure hate the term ‘non-Hispanic white’. How about non-Asian white or non-Black white? Does that make sense? Can we decide what we’re to be called, as other groups do, or do we have to take whatever is rammed down our throats?

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  20. William Frey is an AEI man who is practically giddy with joy over the coming death of white America. Obviously the idea of whites voting as a bloc disgusts him.

    Nunn would have lost by a wider margin had her opponent not been so pathetic.

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    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Nunn would have lost by a wider margin had her opponent not been so pathetic.
    --
    Yeah. Upper management at four different companies (including stints as CEO), 42 years of marriage, children, grandchildren, and degrees in engineering and operations research. Such pathos.
  21. History isnt linear, you dorks masturbating over apocalypse scenarios. Tough times make tough people.

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  22. Hispanic is just an umbrella term for anyone coming from certain geographic areas. Racially it’s anything that was thrown into the blender in some places and many have little in common with each other. I sure hate the term ‘non-Hispanic white’.

    Using hispanic and non-hispanic white, black, etc. doesn’t make sense when referring to people of the United States because it makes hispanic the center of gravity in the conversation. And since the USA was distinctly founded by the English, as opposed to Latin America, it undermines our history.

    As the poster wrote, the hispanic label can be given to any race so long as they are descendant from the Spanish speaking part of the world. So an African like Samy Sosa, a Chinese like Bruce Chen, or a European Jew like Don Franciso are all hispanics.

    By the same reasoning the citizens of the USA who all use English as our mother language, regardless of race, should all be described as “Anglo”. You have blacks, Chinese, Koreans, and Europeans of all stripes who were born and raised in the USA and speak no other language than English. Shouldn’t they then be referred to by a prefix like “Anglo” to designate them as culturally part of the Anglosphere?

    If you are going to use the prefix “hispanic” to designate all groups who come from the Spanish world with nothing in common other than the Spanish language, then it makes more sense to use “Anglo” when referring to those who have already assimilated into the Anglosphere. And it makes Anglo the desired goal of assimilation. A newly minted European Mexican would be counted as a “non-anglo white” upon getting his citizenship. But then his American-born kids would cross over and be counted as “anglo-white”.

    New African immigrants would be non-anglo black. But their American-born kids would become anglo-black. The same would take place for all races that come here.

    Would this change the current demographic predicament? No, but it would at least make the census classifications reflect the history of this nation by making “Anglo”, not “hispanic”, the dominant cultural trait. Further, it would eliminate all references to any language other than English. You are either going to be ‘anglo-something’ or ‘non-anglo something’. There would be no more references to hispanic. Current hispanics would either become non-anglo somethings or anglo somethings depending upon their race and the generation being discussed.

    This makes sense since the USA was founded by the English and all our pertinent documents were originally written in the English language. English (Anglo) needs to be the dominant cultural identifier.

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  23. @E. Harding
    Two words: South Africa. Also very race-obsessed. Also nonwhite-dominated.

    And a dangerous place where babies are raped and people install flamethrowers on their cars.

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  24. @iSteveFan

    Bad, bad stuff.

    And yet, I know there is nothing I can do.
     
    That's not necessarily true. Though it seems a lost cause, it is not. You can start by remaining true to your beliefs. You have obviously come to your beliefs despite living in a society that tries to condition you against such beliefs. Discuss your beliefs with your friends, family, etc. and try to convince them as you were convinced yourself. Keep in mind history is not linear, and things can and do change.

    Look at Israel. As Steve wrote a few posts back the conventional wisdom at the end of the 2oth Century was that the Jewish State was demographically doomed. Now just a short time later the projections have changed. They are not exactly out of the woods. Things could change again for the worse. But at least they recognize what is at stake and took appropriate action.

    In Europe more and more people are beginning to spit the bit too. And that attitude will more than likely become more evident in America. I am quite surprised by what people tell me in private that they won't admit in public. People are aware and they are concerned. But most are waiting for the coast to be clear before they speak.

    I am not telling you that we will ever see the America of the greatest generation again. I am not telling you that you will even live long enough to see that the tide has turned. But I can tell you that other peoples throughout history have gone through worse events. Some came out of it and some did not. There is no guarantee that all is lost.

    The current situation is pretty much self-inflicted, and there are no groups with superior technology or military might that are doing this to us. We are not like the Jews or Kulaks at the hands of the Nazis or Bolsheviks. I imagine they would both roll their eyes at our problems. Even totalitarian regimes like the USSR and Ceaușescu 's Romania eventually lost control of the narrative.

    So keep pushing the Samizdat and don't lose faith in your beliefs.

    Look at Israel. As Steve wrote a few posts back the conventional wisdom at the end of the 2oth Century was that the Jewish State was demographically doomed. Now just a short time later the projections have changed. They are not exactly out of the woods. Things could change again for the worse. But at least they recognize what is at stake and took appropriate action.

    Sadly, we cannot look to Israel.The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel.The White American elite, in contrast, is committed to mass immigration/open borders.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    "The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel."

    Wrong.

    The Israeli Jewish elite - secular Ashkenazim whose families have been in the country since independence or before - overwhelmingly voted for the Obama-worshipping quisling Herzog and his humorously misnamed "Zionist Camp" party or the other leftist parties (Meretz and Yesh Atid). The left parties trip over their own feet trying to placate Obama, the PA and Israeli Arabs, and, along with Israeli big business, are eager to welcome unskilled African vagrants into the country to pump up their own vote. The Israeli left threw a temper tantrum a few months ago when Netanyahu proposed an innocuous law that would have given legal recognition to the state's character as the state of the Jewish people.

    The Israeli Right, which is committed to maintaining Israel's Jewish character, won on the votes of the Jewish non-elite - Jews of Middle Eastern background, religiously observant Jews, and immigrants from the former Soviet Union.

    After the election, the leftwing Israeli pundit Gideon Levy wrote a column in Haaretz, Israel's equivalent of the NY Times, calling for a new election to replace - literally, replace (the word in Hebrew is le-hachlif, you can look it up) - the Israeli people. How's that for a commitment to "Jewish supremacy"?

    , @James
    Yes, and in most cases they are the same elite.

    [Justice Scalia, a favorite of “conservatives,” is openly philosemitic, loves to quote the Torah as “the foundation of our laws,” and would wear a yarmulke if he thought he could get away with it. Conservatives worry about “sharia law being imposed on us” while Scalia gleefully addresses Talmud academies. Since Justice Thomas is his dummy, that makes at least two crypto-judaics on the court, in addition to the openly Judaic.

    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    "Sadly, we cannot look to Israel.The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel.The White American elite, in contrast, is committed to mass immigration/open borders."

    Our elites may simply have to be removed, and replaced with a more suitable cadre.
  25. One big problem is going to be the only ‘remedy’ the courts and government have is ‘money’ and as is empirically observable ‘money’ does not fix academic under achievement or social pathologies. In the case of blacks it has seemed to make them worse. The courts, as in Texas or Missouri can require the states to equalize funding for school districts but they can’t equalize educational outcomes. They can’t even achieve that in the same school district and programs like Head Start just don’t work except as a jobs program.

    Thus no matter the demographic profile of the US there are going to be islands of prosperity, good schools and good jobs and any attempt by the government to pollute these islands with low income/low IQ populations are doomed because the first thing that happens is the high income people abandon the public schools. It even happens in middle income areas which is why the South can be more integrated than the north. The whites have created their own church based private schools.

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  26. “Sadly, we cannot look to Israel.The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel.The White American elite, in contrast, is committed to mass immigration/open borders.”

    To most rich White Americans who belong to the 1 percent, greed trumps racial tribalism. Green trumps White.

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    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    Speaking of Trump, he's said to be glad his daughter shed her shiksaness:
    http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/02/06/donald-trump-on-jewish-daughter-ivanka-this-wasnt-in-the-plan-but-im-very-glad-it-happened-video/
  27. I am glad that the term Non Hispanic White exists because if you eliminate it altogether and just stick to the term White, it gives the false impression that a whopping 77 percent of the U.S population is actually legit White.

    Do 77 out of every 100 Americans actually racially look like The Republican Party? If America was actually 77 percent White right now, there is no way Hussein Obama would have defeated Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential elections.

    How many Nacho Varga looking people (Mexican gangster from “Better Call Saul”) are in that 77 percent White stat from the U.S census bureau? Quite a lot.

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    • Replies: @iSteveFan

    I am glad that the term Non Hispanic White exists because if you eliminate it altogether and just stick to the term White, it gives the false impression that a whopping 77 percent of the U.S population is actually legit White.

    Do 77 out of every 100 Americans actually racially look like The Republican Party?
     
    You are confusing two things. The first issue is whether to use hispanic or anglo as the prefix for all citizens of all races of the USA. The second is whether or not Mestizos are white. The two are not related. Whether you use hispanic or anglo as the prefix, Mestizos should not be counted as white. I don't know if you would call them Amerindians or just Mestizos. But they shouldn't be counted as white.

    And the way you could test for this is to ask whether or not they are eligible for affirmative action set asides. I know some jurisdictions already make that distinction. For example, there was a case in NY a few years back in which a Spaniard-Spaniard tried to get a government contract set aside that was reserved for affirmative action beneficiaries. The court ruled that although he was hispanic, he was white, and thus not entitled. I can no longer find the link or case name.
    , @Perspective
    Interesting fact about the actor that plays Nacho Varga, Michael Mando. He is from Quebec City, Canada and spent much of his childhood in Ghana and Ivory Coast. Quebec City is probably the largest whitest city in North America, with roughly 95 percent of its three quarters of a million people being white (mostly French of course).
    , @Miguelito
    Ok, you obviously don't know what a white Hispanic is. For better reference I'll point out some celebrities that are white Hispanic; Cameron Diaz, Christina Aguilera, Guillermo del Toro. White Hispanics are the equivalent of non white Hispanics in that their ancestry is European, not indigenous to the Hispanic states. Hence they are white. Oh and as to your racist dig at white people, the majority that voted for Obama were white, Hispanic AND non. Mitt Romney represents rich people which the vast majority of the white people you hate are not.
  28. @Priss Factor
    If diversity is good, why is race-mixing also good when it mongrelizes the races into one?
    And if races get mixed, won't cultural identities suffer since it gets pretty confusing to maintain an identity that is, say, 1/8 German, 1/8 Chinese, 1/8 Turkish, 1/8 Mexican, 1/8 Italian, 1/8 Jewish, 1/8 black, and 1/8 Hindu. With so many identities, one is likely to be just some generic pop-culture worshiping fool as it will remain the only 'culture' that has relevance in our consumer-driven society.

    The largest categories for the salad bowl of mixed ethnicities will likely be “iPhoners” and “Androiders”, with old white guys derisively called “Blackberries”.

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  29. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    All I know is…

    I’ll take Mexicans over blacks.

    If this country is gonna take in more blacks, any bunch of non-blacks will do just to serve as buffer against the ghastly Negroes.

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    You'll get both. Which reminds me of this joke: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/jokes/read/260614/
    , @silviosilver

    All I know is…

    I’ll take Mexicans over blacks.

    If this country is gonna take in more blacks, any bunch of non-blacks will do just to serve as buffer against the ghastly Negroes.
     
    If blacks are stronger and more intimidating than whites, as you never fail to remind people, then surely they are stronger and more intimidating than Mexicans. So why do I so rarely hear stories of outrageous black violence against Mexicans as I do against whites? Do these incidents happen as regularly but the information doesn't reach me or is there something about Mexican behavior that makes blacks think twice?

    As for your buffer concept, that's definitely true. Latinos are a better choice than Asians, I believe. Even though they're dumber they are more likeable, and more importantly, they are more willing to openly stand up to black thuggery, whereas Asians take the more circumspect and duplicitous route of Jews. Some way to split their ranks between white-sympathizers and indio-sympathizers without being insulting to the latter (otherwise the former will side with them) will have to be found.
    , @Joe Walker
    This is like saying that if you had a choice between cutting off one of your legs or both of your legs, you would choose to cut off one leg. Yes, cutting off one leg is better than cutting off two but cutting off neither of your legs is best.
  30. Bah! What is wrong with you people?

    … There is only one solution to this problem and it is actually so simple.

    Marry another white person and have lots of children. I already have five myself. Beautfiul redheads.

    Stop being afraid of having a large white family. This is how my and your ancestors won this land to begin with – having 5, 8, 10 children in a family.

    The world, and America, need more white children. Stop making excuses about how you can’t afford it. You can’t afford NOT to.

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    Andrew

    That's what Story Musgrave did. Astronaut and polymath, He started as a farmer, became a doctor, a astronaut and retired and is a landscaper today. He also had six children along the way.

    But what he did just makes too much sense for a lot of folks here. They prefer good old fashioned statistical manipulation to worm their way out of becoming minorities and eventual extinction. Anything but reproduction.

    But Musgrave is old school from a different era. That of my parents, different values and view on life.

    One of the big problems with high IQ whites of today is that they aren't family types for the most part. Passion for them is a hot diode. Another problem is they often work in industries that thrive on their innate love of workaholism and personal sacrifice. Great for the Gates, Ballmers and Ellisons which benefit from the work but which comes at the price of a personal life and a family.

    The smart ones realize it's a nasty scam and leave before it sucks their soul and sanity and they become just another dried out husk in a Herman-Miller cube.
    , @Anonym
    Exactly. That, and being unrepentant for being white, ethnocentric and unpc.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Nice idea. But it's not that simple.

    If you know of a website (or meatspace methodology) that allows us to find women of similar mind, please tell!

    Don't say " go to church". Most of them are leftists by default due to being raised in public schools.

    Before Japan, I was dating a redhead who wanted lots of kids, but she was a gun control nut vegetarian public school teacher who I didn't think had the capacity for a lifetime commitment.

    That's the reality we are facing.
  31. @Jefferson
    I am glad that the term Non Hispanic White exists because if you eliminate it altogether and just stick to the term White, it gives the false impression that a whopping 77 percent of the U.S population is actually legit White.

    Do 77 out of every 100 Americans actually racially look like The Republican Party? If America was actually 77 percent White right now, there is no way Hussein Obama would have defeated Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential elections.

    How many Nacho Varga looking people (Mexican gangster from "Better Call Saul") are in that 77 percent White stat from the U.S census bureau? Quite a lot.

    I am glad that the term Non Hispanic White exists because if you eliminate it altogether and just stick to the term White, it gives the false impression that a whopping 77 percent of the U.S population is actually legit White.

    Do 77 out of every 100 Americans actually racially look like The Republican Party?

    You are confusing two things. The first issue is whether to use hispanic or anglo as the prefix for all citizens of all races of the USA. The second is whether or not Mestizos are white. The two are not related. Whether you use hispanic or anglo as the prefix, Mestizos should not be counted as white. I don’t know if you would call them Amerindians or just Mestizos. But they shouldn’t be counted as white.

    And the way you could test for this is to ask whether or not they are eligible for affirmative action set asides. I know some jurisdictions already make that distinction. For example, there was a case in NY a few years back in which a Spaniard-Spaniard tried to get a government contract set aside that was reserved for affirmative action beneficiaries. The court ruled that although he was hispanic, he was white, and thus not entitled. I can no longer find the link or case name.

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    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    BTW, the NY Case was called JANA-ROCK CONSTRUCTION, INC. v. NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

    Rocco Luiere, Jr., "the son of a Spanish mother whose parents were born in Spain," owns seventy-five percent of the shares in Jana-Rock Construction, Inc. See Compl. ¶¶ 3, 4. Luiere and Jana-Rock bring a challenge under the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to New York Executive Law Article 15-A, New York's "affirmative action" statute for minority-owned businesses, because the law does not include in its definition of "Hispanic" people of Spanish or Portuguese descent unless they also come from Latin America.
     
    , @unit472
    And, of course, Elon Musk is more 'African American' than Jesse Jackson ( and has created more jobs and wealth in the US than the millions of other African immigrants combined) but he is a South African and thus not 'authentic' African.

    Some years ago I was made to endure a talk by a newly hired Spanish speaking diversity consultant in Richmond, Va. where I then worked. She assumed we all knew nothing about this new ethnic community flooding into the low income garden apartments and trailer parks though I had lived most of my life in California. Interestingly she informed us that "Latino" was the preferred term for her people because... Hispanic reeked of the Conquistadors and Spanish Colonialism. I guess I had been away from University ethnic studies programs too long and had missed out on this controversy but did ask how Chicano fit into the taxonomy of Spanish speakers as this was Caesar Chavez's term for his band of stoop laborers. The reality is my Cuban colonoscopist has absolutely nothing in common with the illegal alien Mexican field hands sorting tomatoes or picking strawberries on the county farms. Neither do South American businessman with luxury waterfront condos. There is no such thing as Hispanic or Latino except in the minds of diversity consultants and government bureaucrats.
  32. @Dave Pinsen
    Do races ever really mix into one? Mixed race countries still tend to be somewhat heterogenous. Out of curiosity, I just looked up the justices of the Brazilian Supreme Court. Justice JOSÉ CELSO DE MELLO FILHO, to pick one example, doesn't exactly look like all the races of Brazil blended together.

    I Googled Justice Celso de Mello (“filho” = “Junior”), but got the racer Edgard de Mello (also a Jr) instead. Edgard’s interests are given as aviation, motoring, music, film and “cachorrada“. WTF?

    This is Google’s first image for cachorrada.

    Be glad Edgard’s not on their Supreme Court. Or ours!

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    Not sure if this is common knowledge or not---

    The dog facing the camera in that pic is the male who is actually copulating with the bitch. Upon entering her, his penis engorged so that the two are "tied" together, and subsequently twisted around to the rear to rear position. They're conjoined for a good while-- up to an hour or so.

    They're surprisingly flexible-- sometimes one will lie down while the other remains standing or they can both twist their torsos around to face in nearly the same direction.

    Male dogs evolved this technique to thwart interloper males-- like the one is this pic-- whose present effort in mounting the bitch is undoubtedly fruitless.

  33. @iSteveFan

    I am glad that the term Non Hispanic White exists because if you eliminate it altogether and just stick to the term White, it gives the false impression that a whopping 77 percent of the U.S population is actually legit White.

    Do 77 out of every 100 Americans actually racially look like The Republican Party?
     
    You are confusing two things. The first issue is whether to use hispanic or anglo as the prefix for all citizens of all races of the USA. The second is whether or not Mestizos are white. The two are not related. Whether you use hispanic or anglo as the prefix, Mestizos should not be counted as white. I don't know if you would call them Amerindians or just Mestizos. But they shouldn't be counted as white.

    And the way you could test for this is to ask whether or not they are eligible for affirmative action set asides. I know some jurisdictions already make that distinction. For example, there was a case in NY a few years back in which a Spaniard-Spaniard tried to get a government contract set aside that was reserved for affirmative action beneficiaries. The court ruled that although he was hispanic, he was white, and thus not entitled. I can no longer find the link or case name.

    BTW, the NY Case was called JANA-ROCK CONSTRUCTION, INC. v. NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

    Rocco Luiere, Jr., “the son of a Spanish mother whose parents were born in Spain,” owns seventy-five percent of the shares in Jana-Rock Construction, Inc. See Compl. ¶¶ 3, 4. Luiere and Jana-Rock bring a challenge under the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to New York Executive Law Article 15-A, New York’s “affirmative action” statute for minority-owned businesses, because the law does not include in its definition of “Hispanic” people of Spanish or Portuguese descent unless they also come from Latin America.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    A generation ago a Poland-born man was ruled eligible for a tax break for being Hispanic because his ancestors got kicked out of Spain in 1492.

    But that classic case might have been a one-off. Or it might be such settled law that it never comes up again.

  34. @iSteveFan
    BTW, the NY Case was called JANA-ROCK CONSTRUCTION, INC. v. NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

    Rocco Luiere, Jr., "the son of a Spanish mother whose parents were born in Spain," owns seventy-five percent of the shares in Jana-Rock Construction, Inc. See Compl. ¶¶ 3, 4. Luiere and Jana-Rock bring a challenge under the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to New York Executive Law Article 15-A, New York's "affirmative action" statute for minority-owned businesses, because the law does not include in its definition of "Hispanic" people of Spanish or Portuguese descent unless they also come from Latin America.
     

    A generation ago a Poland-born man was ruled eligible for a tax break for being Hispanic because his ancestors got kicked out of Spain in 1492.

    But that classic case might have been a one-off. Or it might be such settled law that it never comes up again.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar


    A generation ago a Poland-born man was ruled eligible for a tax break for being Hispanic because his ancestors got kicked out of Spain in 1492.

     

    Manual Gonsalus, the first white settler of Mamakating, NY, left quite a few descendants in his new country. So did the Jews of Truro. They should all be "Hispanic" as well.
    , @syonredux

    A generation ago a Poland-born man was ruled eligible for a tax break for being Hispanic because his ancestors got kicked out of Spain in 1492.

    But that classic case might have been a one-off. Or it might be such settled law that it never comes up again.
     
    On the other hand, when Sonia Sotomayor was named to the Supreme Court, people declared her the first Hispanic Justice.Benjamin Cardozo doesn't seem to count.....
  35. Caldwell deserves more attention on the right. Everything he writes is good.

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  36. “Marry another white person and have lots of children. I already have five myself. Beautiful redheads.”

    All 5 of your kids are gingers? What are the odds of that? You got some strong ginger genes on steroids there. You got a whole family of Pipi Longstockings and Rupert Grints.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    All 5 of your kids are gingers? What are the odds of that?
     
    Pretty much 100%, if both parents are rufous. The "cheaper" dozen Gilbreth kids were all redheads. Or at least strawberry blond.
    , @Andrew
    Jefferson:

    "What are the odds of that?"

    Pretty high, since I have golden red hair and my wife is auburn haired.
  37. @Mike Sylwester

    In Georgia last fall, Democrat Michelle Nunn, an impressive candidate and the daughter of a long-beloved U.S. senator, lost after getting only 23% of the white vote.
     
    An attainable goal for the Republican Party to aim for in the 2016 election would be about 2/3 of the White vote.

    Perhaps the ultimate maximum for the Republican Party will be about 3/4 of the White vote.

    An attainable goal for the Republican Party to aim for in the 2016 election would be about 2/3 of the White vote.

    A better, and equally achievable, goal would be reducing Democrats to even less than 1/3 of the white vote. And you don’t even have to wait for the Republicans!

    Obama carried the white male vote in all of five states, three with well below-average nonwhite populations, and two with almost no nonwhites at all. If we can get white women down to a similar level, it’s over for the Dems. At least for awhile.

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    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    I do wonder if the myth of "voter suppression" ever really will get legs with the right's activists. Reducing turnout appears easier than winning over more voters.

    Rolling back all-mail elections is an easy step, limiting early voting to in-person with valid excuse would be another.

    Or we could go all Ranjeesh on the 'hood.
  38. “The two are not related. Whether you use hispanic or anglo as the prefix, Mestizos should not be counted as white. I don’t know if you would call them Amerindians or just Mestizos. But they shouldn’t be counted as white.”

    But race and the U.S census is about self identification, not what you personally think is White. Nothing legally prevents a Non Caucasian looking Hispanic from checking the White box. Hence why the U.S is technically 77 percent “White” and Puerto Rico is technically 75 percent “White”.

    Since people can freely identify as anything they want on the census, that is why you have so many people who say race is a social construct.

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  39. @Steve Sailer
    A generation ago a Poland-born man was ruled eligible for a tax break for being Hispanic because his ancestors got kicked out of Spain in 1492.

    But that classic case might have been a one-off. Or it might be such settled law that it never comes up again.

    A generation ago a Poland-born man was ruled eligible for a tax break for being Hispanic because his ancestors got kicked out of Spain in 1492.

    Manual Gonsalus, the first white settler of Mamakating, NY, left quite a few descendants in his new country. So did the Jews of Truro. They should all be “Hispanic” as well.

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  40. @Jefferson
    "Marry another white person and have lots of children. I already have five myself. Beautiful redheads."

    All 5 of your kids are gingers? What are the odds of that? You got some strong ginger genes on steroids there. You got a whole family of Pipi Longstockings and Rupert Grints.

    All 5 of your kids are gingers? What are the odds of that?

    Pretty much 100%, if both parents are rufous. The “cheaper” dozen Gilbreth kids were all redheads. Or at least strawberry blond.

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  41. @iSteveFan

    I am glad that the term Non Hispanic White exists because if you eliminate it altogether and just stick to the term White, it gives the false impression that a whopping 77 percent of the U.S population is actually legit White.

    Do 77 out of every 100 Americans actually racially look like The Republican Party?
     
    You are confusing two things. The first issue is whether to use hispanic or anglo as the prefix for all citizens of all races of the USA. The second is whether or not Mestizos are white. The two are not related. Whether you use hispanic or anglo as the prefix, Mestizos should not be counted as white. I don't know if you would call them Amerindians or just Mestizos. But they shouldn't be counted as white.

    And the way you could test for this is to ask whether or not they are eligible for affirmative action set asides. I know some jurisdictions already make that distinction. For example, there was a case in NY a few years back in which a Spaniard-Spaniard tried to get a government contract set aside that was reserved for affirmative action beneficiaries. The court ruled that although he was hispanic, he was white, and thus not entitled. I can no longer find the link or case name.

    And, of course, Elon Musk is more ‘African American’ than Jesse Jackson ( and has created more jobs and wealth in the US than the millions of other African immigrants combined) but he is a South African and thus not ‘authentic’ African.

    Some years ago I was made to endure a talk by a newly hired Spanish speaking diversity consultant in Richmond, Va. where I then worked. She assumed we all knew nothing about this new ethnic community flooding into the low income garden apartments and trailer parks though I had lived most of my life in California. Interestingly she informed us that “Latino” was the preferred term for her people because… Hispanic reeked of the Conquistadors and Spanish Colonialism. I guess I had been away from University ethnic studies programs too long and had missed out on this controversy but did ask how Chicano fit into the taxonomy of Spanish speakers as this was Caesar Chavez’s term for his band of stoop laborers. The reality is my Cuban colonoscopist has absolutely nothing in common with the illegal alien Mexican field hands sorting tomatoes or picking strawberries on the county farms. Neither do South American businessman with luxury waterfront condos. There is no such thing as Hispanic or Latino except in the minds of diversity consultants and government bureaucrats.

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    • Replies: @notsaying
    "The reality is my Cuban colonoscopist has absolutely nothing in common with the illegal alien Mexican field hands sorting tomatoes or picking strawberries on the county farms. Neither do South American businessman with luxury waterfront condos."

    They all have this much in common: they all want to be here and they are. No matter what their status back home all classes paricipate in the stampede to the US and seem to want us to bring in even more people like them.

    Funny how that's been working out. They get their way, many in the US don't get theirs.
  42. “In Georgia last fall, Democrat Michelle Nunn, an impressive candidate and the daughter of a long-beloved U.S. senator, lost after getting only 23% of the white vote.”

    The irony that the liberal CNN’s headquarters is located in Georgia, a state with one of the highest percentage of Right Wing Whites in the country. Yet most Whites who work for the Georgia based CNN have the voting pattern of Vermont Whites. I take it CNN does not have a lot of born and raised Georgia locals on their payroll.

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    • Replies: @iSteveFan

    I take it CNN does not have a lot of born and raised Georgia locals on their payroll.
     
    Even Ted Turner wasn't a native.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    I take it CNN does not have a lot of born and raised Georgia locals on their payroll.
     
    You could change "Georgia" to "North America" or even "Western Hemisphere" and still be accurate.
  43. “Pretty much 100%, if both parents are rufous. The “cheaper” dozen Gilbreth kids were all redheads. Or at least strawberry blond.”

    I rarely see couples here in California where both the woman and the man are gingers. But it is probably very common in The United Kingdom and Ireland. Whenever I see a ginger in a relationship in my neck of the woods, over 9 times out of 10 their significant other is a non ginger, but usually still White.

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  44. @Jefferson
    "In Georgia last fall, Democrat Michelle Nunn, an impressive candidate and the daughter of a long-beloved U.S. senator, lost after getting only 23% of the white vote."

    The irony that the liberal CNN's headquarters is located in Georgia, a state with one of the highest percentage of Right Wing Whites in the country. Yet most Whites who work for the Georgia based CNN have the voting pattern of Vermont Whites. I take it CNN does not have a lot of born and raised Georgia locals on their payroll.

    I take it CNN does not have a lot of born and raised Georgia locals on their payroll.

    Even Ted Turner wasn’t a native.

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  45. @Mike Sylwester

    In Georgia last fall, Democrat Michelle Nunn, an impressive candidate and the daughter of a long-beloved U.S. senator, lost after getting only 23% of the white vote.
     
    An attainable goal for the Republican Party to aim for in the 2016 election would be about 2/3 of the White vote.

    Perhaps the ultimate maximum for the Republican Party will be about 3/4 of the White vote.

    #15 –

    Today’s Republicans limit the number of white votes they get by being so against the social safety net for people who are not retired.

    There’s a lot of white working age voters who aren’t doing well. I feel Republicans are very hostile towards these people — and there are tens of millions of them!

    Even if you don’t like Democrats, if you think you may ever be sick or jobless and need help, it’s very hard to vote for the Republican Party’s candidates who say they don’t like you and constantly make it clear they don’t want people like you in their party.

    I don’t see how the Republican Party can ever hope to get another President into the White House if it doesn’ t loosen up and stop picking on working age people who are or may become financially insecure.

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    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    The GOP lives and dies on the myth of tax cuts.

    Their problem is that they give cuts only to business, not to individuals. I will note that switching from income to consumption base, directly hits the other side's base hard.

    If you want to cut taxes in [insert Midwestern state here] the way to do it is slashing public employee compensation, and limiting Medicaid growth.

    Real leadership would be found in reducing the "tuition tax", by whacking leftist academics and university administrators. Rick Perry started on that path in Texas, one of the few things he did right.
  46. I can’t think of any famous ginger celebrity who was in a serious relationship with another ginger. Ginger actress Jessica Chastain is in a relationship with a dark haired Italian man named Gian Luca Passi de Preposulo. Ginger haired Lucille Ball was married to the dark haired Cuban Desi Arnaz. The ginger actor Louis C.K was married to a dark haired woman named Alix Bailey. Ginger actor Rupert Grint is only seen dating brunettes and blondes. Ginger actor Seth Green is married to a woman named Clare Grant who is sometimes a brunette and sometimes a blonde. Ginger haired actor David Caruso was married to 2 brunettes and a 1 blonde. I can go on and on.

    Ginger couples seem to be the most rarest of couples, even more rare than Oriental male/White female couples.

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Henry VIII, Shakespeare, Winston Churchill, Galileo...and a whole bunch of people when you Google "Famous redheads." Relax, we are fine.
    , @Sgt. Joe Friday
    Actually, Lucille Ball was a natural brunette.
  47. @Jefferson
    "In Georgia last fall, Democrat Michelle Nunn, an impressive candidate and the daughter of a long-beloved U.S. senator, lost after getting only 23% of the white vote."

    The irony that the liberal CNN's headquarters is located in Georgia, a state with one of the highest percentage of Right Wing Whites in the country. Yet most Whites who work for the Georgia based CNN have the voting pattern of Vermont Whites. I take it CNN does not have a lot of born and raised Georgia locals on their payroll.

    I take it CNN does not have a lot of born and raised Georgia locals on their payroll.

    You could change “Georgia” to “North America” or even “Western Hemisphere” and still be accurate.

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  48. @Jefferson
    "Marry another white person and have lots of children. I already have five myself. Beautiful redheads."

    All 5 of your kids are gingers? What are the odds of that? You got some strong ginger genes on steroids there. You got a whole family of Pipi Longstockings and Rupert Grints.

    Jefferson:

    “What are the odds of that?”

    Pretty high, since I have golden red hair and my wife is auburn haired.

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  49. “Jefferson:

    “What are the odds of that?”

    Pretty high, since I have golden red hair and my wife is auburn haired.”

    Does it make you sad that most gingers do not seek out other gingers to breed with? It certainly does not help increase the ginger population in the world when most gingers end up breeding with non gingers.

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    • Replies: @Beach

    It certainly does not help increase the ginger population in the world when most gingers end up breeding with non gingers.
     
    That could be because it's utterly rotten to be ginger...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kP6stDvWcI
    , @Andrew
    Jefferson:

    Does it make you sad that most gingers do not seek out other gingers to breed with? It certainly does not help increase the ginger population in the world when most gingers end up breeding with non gingers.

    Yes, in a way. If we looked at human race the way we do animal races within species, Redheads would clearly be a seperate race of our own. Our hair is of course obviously different in its thickness and the length of time it retains its color (and it whitens more than it grays), we come with very pale white skin that burns instead of tanning, we get freckles, have different pain sensitivity, hotter tempers, passionate. We also have our own little home corner of the world where we are most relatively abundant (Scotland, Ireland, England, Norway, and of course our little isle in Russia of Udmurtia). Everything that people talk about to seperate say the black race from the white would similarly seperate the redheads from the rest of the whites.

    If America is going to be an aggrevied coalition of minorities in the future, than I am going to be of the redhead race.

    I never felt more at home than when I visited Ediburgh back in 1983 as a pre-teen. Suddenly all around me was a city full of redheads. Instead of being the only redhead walking down the street, or the only redhead in my small school, like I was in the United States, every third person I saw was a redhead like me.

    I married a redhead woman because I wanted my children to look like me. I can't make any other redheads do that, but I can encourage my children to think that way and do.
  50. When the ginger Lucille Ball ended up breeding with the black haired swarthy Cuban Desi Arnaz, none of her off spring inherited her ginger hair. Gingers should be encouraged to breed more with other gingers so they don’t go on the endangered species list.

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    I thought Lucy dyed her hair red?

    Hair dyeing technology improved irregularly over the course of the 20th Century. For awhile, red dyes were the best performers.

    , @Lagertha
    Gingers never die...they are stealth and everywhere. Look up stats about gingers, kind of wild.
  51. @Jefferson
    When the ginger Lucille Ball ended up breeding with the black haired swarthy Cuban Desi Arnaz, none of her off spring inherited her ginger hair. Gingers should be encouraged to breed more with other gingers so they don't go on the endangered species list.

    I thought Lucy dyed her hair red?

    Hair dyeing technology improved irregularly over the course of the 20th Century. For awhile, red dyes were the best performers.

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    In the Fred Astaire movie Follow the Fleet, Lucy played a blonde chorus girl. Most women with blonde hair dye it, but it may have been more or less her natural color.
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    Welp, there was only one way to find out if she was a natural redhead.
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    @syonredux

    Look at Israel. As Steve wrote a few posts back the conventional wisdom at the end of the 2oth Century was that the Jewish State was demographically doomed. Now just a short time later the projections have changed. They are not exactly out of the woods. Things could change again for the worse. But at least they recognize what is at stake and took appropriate action.
     
    Sadly, we cannot look to Israel.The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel.The White American elite, in contrast, is committed to mass immigration/open borders.

    “The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel.”

    Wrong.

    The Israeli Jewish elite – secular Ashkenazim whose families have been in the country since independence or before – overwhelmingly voted for the Obama-worshipping quisling Herzog and his humorously misnamed “Zionist Camp” party or the other leftist parties (Meretz and Yesh Atid). The left parties trip over their own feet trying to placate Obama, the PA and Israeli Arabs, and, along with Israeli big business, are eager to welcome unskilled African vagrants into the country to pump up their own vote. The Israeli left threw a temper tantrum a few months ago when Netanyahu proposed an innocuous law that would have given legal recognition to the state’s character as the state of the Jewish people.

    The Israeli Right, which is committed to maintaining Israel’s Jewish character, won on the votes of the Jewish non-elite – Jews of Middle Eastern background, religiously observant Jews, and immigrants from the former Soviet Union.

    After the election, the leftwing Israeli pundit Gideon Levy wrote a column in Haaretz, Israel’s equivalent of the NY Times, calling for a new election to replace – literally, replace (the word in Hebrew is le-hachlif, you can look it up) – the Israeli people. How’s that for a commitment to “Jewish supremacy”?

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    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    Look at the demographics/election results of Tel Aviv vis-à-vis the rest of the country. Tel-Aviv, the arena of the elites, has almost nil minorities.

    Sort of like Harvard, Yale, Princeton...
    , @silviosilver

    party or the other leftist parties (Meretz and Yesh Atid).
     
    Only in the mind of a rabid ultra-zionist could Yesh Atid be considered leftist. I think a lot of Yesh Atid's votes went to Likud in this election, which if true shows just how "leftist" they are.
    , @ben tillman

    “The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel.”

    Wrong.

    The Israeli Jewish elite – secular Ashkenazim whose families have been in the country since independence or before – overwhelmingly voted for the Obama-worshipping quisling Herzog....
     
    I think we're seeing some confusion from a conflation of "elite" and "rulers". The elite do not necessarily rule.
  53. @Andrew
    Bah! What is wrong with you people?

    ... There is only one solution to this problem and it is actually so simple.

    Marry another white person and have lots of children. I already have five myself. Beautfiul redheads.

    Stop being afraid of having a large white family. This is how my and your ancestors won this land to begin with - having 5, 8, 10 children in a family.

    The world, and America, need more white children. Stop making excuses about how you can't afford it. You can't afford NOT to.

    Andrew

    That’s what Story Musgrave did. Astronaut and polymath, He started as a farmer, became a doctor, a astronaut and retired and is a landscaper today. He also had six children along the way.

    But what he did just makes too much sense for a lot of folks here. They prefer good old fashioned statistical manipulation to worm their way out of becoming minorities and eventual extinction. Anything but reproduction.

    But Musgrave is old school from a different era. That of my parents, different values and view on life.

    One of the big problems with high IQ whites of today is that they aren’t family types for the most part. Passion for them is a hot diode. Another problem is they often work in industries that thrive on their innate love of workaholism and personal sacrifice. Great for the Gates, Ballmers and Ellisons which benefit from the work but which comes at the price of a personal life and a family.

    The smart ones realize it’s a nasty scam and leave before it sucks their soul and sanity and they become just another dried out husk in a Herman-Miller cube.

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    Another problem is they often work in industries that thrive on their innate love of workaholism and personal sacrifice.
     
    Reminds me of the smart couple in the movie Idiocracy who say they don't think they could afford to have children right now because the market is down. Costs more and more to get the right home, the right schools, the right neighborhood, always on the treadmill. Meanwhile, the others are unconcerned and pop the kids out; God will provide, they say.
  54. Has any right-leaning writer explored how imprecise and deceptive the phrase “affirmative action” is?

    “Action” means “doing something.”

    “Affirmative” means “good.”

    Why not just use the plainly descriptive terms “race-based admissions,” “racial quotas,” and “racial discrimination?” (Rhetorical)

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Has any right-leaning writer explored how imprecise and deceptive the phrase “affirmative action” is?

     

    I've said the same thing about "amnesty" for years. Way too soft and weak a word for what's threatened. But does anyone listen? It's our side that's using it!

    And "liberal"…. I've never met a progressive with a liberal bone in his body.
  55. The so-called browning of America has not happened yet and will not likely happen anytime soon. To beat a dead horse a few more times, what has happened and will continue to happen for some time is the beige-ing of America on the one hand and the continued de facto segregation of blacks on the other: http://www.nytimes.com/1998/08/16/magazine/the-beige-and-the-black.html

    White (and white-ish) Hispanics and East Asians are intermarrying whites and are assimilating into the white-ishness (or beige-ness). Dark (Mestizo) Hispanics and blacks are not, and will continue to form the underclass.

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  56. @unit472
    And, of course, Elon Musk is more 'African American' than Jesse Jackson ( and has created more jobs and wealth in the US than the millions of other African immigrants combined) but he is a South African and thus not 'authentic' African.

    Some years ago I was made to endure a talk by a newly hired Spanish speaking diversity consultant in Richmond, Va. where I then worked. She assumed we all knew nothing about this new ethnic community flooding into the low income garden apartments and trailer parks though I had lived most of my life in California. Interestingly she informed us that "Latino" was the preferred term for her people because... Hispanic reeked of the Conquistadors and Spanish Colonialism. I guess I had been away from University ethnic studies programs too long and had missed out on this controversy but did ask how Chicano fit into the taxonomy of Spanish speakers as this was Caesar Chavez's term for his band of stoop laborers. The reality is my Cuban colonoscopist has absolutely nothing in common with the illegal alien Mexican field hands sorting tomatoes or picking strawberries on the county farms. Neither do South American businessman with luxury waterfront condos. There is no such thing as Hispanic or Latino except in the minds of diversity consultants and government bureaucrats.

    “The reality is my Cuban colonoscopist has absolutely nothing in common with the illegal alien Mexican field hands sorting tomatoes or picking strawberries on the county farms. Neither do South American businessman with luxury waterfront condos.”

    They all have this much in common: they all want to be here and they are. No matter what their status back home all classes paricipate in the stampede to the US and seem to want us to bring in even more people like them.

    Funny how that’s been working out. They get their way, many in the US don’t get theirs.

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  57. “The so-called browning of America has not happened yet and will not likely happen anytime soon”

    You live in rural Colorado, so of course the Browning of America will not reach your area anytime soon and when it does you will be long dead. Have you visited America’s major metropolitan areas lately? Remember that the majority of the U.S population is not living the rural green acres is the place to be farm living is the life for me lifestyle.

    Rural people are sheltered from DIEversity just like upper middle class people and rich people in major metropolitan areas.

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    You live in rural Colorado, so of course the Browning of America will not reach your area anytime soon and when it does you will be long dead. Have you visited America’s major metropolitan areas lately?
     
    1. I do not live in Colorado. 2. Yes.
    , @Anonymous

    You live in rural Colorado, so of course the Browning of America will not reach your area anytime soon and when it does you will be long dead. Have you visited America’s major metropolitan areas lately? Remember that the majority of the U.S population is not living the rural green acres is the place to be farm living is the life for me lifestyle.
     
    Have you been to Boston/Cambridge lately? It is pretty white with a large and burgeoning Chinese population. The NAMs will be priced out and will need to retreat to Lynn, Lawrence, Lowell, et al. Right now Boston is a pretty safe city.

    D.C. is becoming non-NAM and safer as well. Same with San Fran.
  58. Before I go to sleep, I suddenly thought some of you would get a kick out of my mother’s classmate, Pentti Linkola. When you Google him, you will undoubtedly realize he is the crazy-ass guy we in Finland, don’t want the world to know about, ever. He is so controversial that even Wikipedia admits to blocking some of his stuff. My mother said he was a very nice boy except he was too “quirky,” and she refrained from being too close to him as a friend – it sucked for outsiders even in the 40′s ! So, you are up for a long night if his ideas grab you!

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  59. @Jefferson
    When the ginger Lucille Ball ended up breeding with the black haired swarthy Cuban Desi Arnaz, none of her off spring inherited her ginger hair. Gingers should be encouraged to breed more with other gingers so they don't go on the endangered species list.

    Gingers never die…they are stealth and everywhere. Look up stats about gingers, kind of wild.

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  60. @Jefferson
    I can't think of any famous ginger celebrity who was in a serious relationship with another ginger. Ginger actress Jessica Chastain is in a relationship with a dark haired Italian man named Gian Luca Passi de Preposulo. Ginger haired Lucille Ball was married to the dark haired Cuban Desi Arnaz. The ginger actor Louis C.K was married to a dark haired woman named Alix Bailey. Ginger actor Rupert Grint is only seen dating brunettes and blondes. Ginger actor Seth Green is married to a woman named Clare Grant who is sometimes a brunette and sometimes a blonde. Ginger haired actor David Caruso was married to 2 brunettes and a 1 blonde. I can go on and on.

    Ginger couples seem to be the most rarest of couples, even more rare than Oriental male/White female couples.

    Henry VIII, Shakespeare, Winston Churchill, Galileo…and a whole bunch of people when you Google “Famous redheads.” Relax, we are fine.

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  61. @Andrew
    Bah! What is wrong with you people?

    ... There is only one solution to this problem and it is actually so simple.

    Marry another white person and have lots of children. I already have five myself. Beautfiul redheads.

    Stop being afraid of having a large white family. This is how my and your ancestors won this land to begin with - having 5, 8, 10 children in a family.

    The world, and America, need more white children. Stop making excuses about how you can't afford it. You can't afford NOT to.

    Exactly. That, and being unrepentant for being white, ethnocentric and unpc.

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  62. In Southern California, Whites went from majority as late as the 1980s, to a decided minority. For example, UCI, site of some location filming for Logan’s Run (using its modernist archicture and bucolic setting) is now only 17% White. Asians dominate, followed by Hispanics.

    White people are already a minority in California, and have been a functional minority since the early 1990s when Democrats like Gray Davis took the Governorship.

    Let me tell you how this ends:

    A. You have ever increasing Latin American and African immigration. The Latin Americans take low skill jobs that are not (yet) converted into robotics stuff as Bill Gates predicts. The rest go on Welfare particularly the African immigrants.

    B. The children of the Latin American and African immigrants go on welfare. There is no hope for jobs for them as automation eliminates low skill jobs (a robot cleaner is cheaper than a man with a bucket and mop — no workman’s comp, no insurance, no overtime, no AA certification).

    C. High skill jobs that pay well are exclusively the province of Whites (and Asians) and constant pressure from the Hispanic and Black/African underclass exists to purge the Whites and Asians and install themselves (see Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Vietnam, etc. with the Chinese expatriates).

    D. You get ever increasing numbers of African, native Black, and Latin Americans dependent on ever decreasing White wealth due to White population and absolute wealth declines (as Asians will undoubtedly be able to shelter money from taxation by dual citizenship, various trusts/corporations, etc.)

    E. There will be a set of ethnic cleansing riots aimed at Whites, or purges from jobs, or mass firing of Whites from the military and/or police, as ethnic turf battles play out on a national not local scale.

    F. White fight back based on pure survival physically and the fear of White genocide. Making everything on the table as it was in the Balkans. The best case scenario is the Siege of Vienna. The worst is the fall of Constantinople.

    G. A bloody, incredibly brutal, decades long Reconquista by a totally militarized White population choosing fear as their survival weapon, against a global mass of non-Whites.

    The above is I assume Derbyshire’s view that the elites will turn “racist.” I don’t believe they will, but I do believe people when they see genocide staring them in the face will do anything to survive. Human history is replete with examples of this. Even the French put aside their rivalry with the Hapsburgs when Selim scared them enough to allow the Holy League to reform for Lepanto. This after allowing Suleiman’s fleet to winter in Toulon.

    Certainly there is no possibility whatsoever of low IQ Latin American and very low IQ native Black or African immigrant populations generating enough money to support them in a welfare state. The money will have to come from the White population which cannot make enough being both declining in numbers and seeing its own wealth move to Asia via outsourcing / H1 Bs.

    Whites in South Africa and Zimbabwe could and did flee, mostly. There were not that many of them. Whites in America even declining in numbers are large, much larger, and have nowhere really to go.

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  63. We’re seeing the emergence of the concept of a “legacy majority,” tainted by blood, that will forever remain responsible for the shortcomings of other groups.

    For as long as we decide to shoulder that yoke. I suspect that PC will become an anachronism, and the idea that white people should whimper and cringe when called racists instead of bristling will also be an anachronism.

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    For as long as we decide to shoulder that yoke. I suspect that PC will become an anachronism, and the idea that white people should whimper and cringe when called racists instead of bristling will also be an anachronism.
     
    In his first book, The Logic of Collective Action: Public Goods and the Theory of Groups (1965), Mancur Olson theorized that what stimulates people to act in groups is incentive; members of large groups do not act in accordance with a common interest unless motivated by personal gain (economic, social, etc.). While small groups can act on shared objectives, large groups will not work towards shared objectives unless their individual members are sufficiently motivated.
  64. @Priss Factor
    If diversity is good, why is race-mixing also good when it mongrelizes the races into one?
    And if races get mixed, won't cultural identities suffer since it gets pretty confusing to maintain an identity that is, say, 1/8 German, 1/8 Chinese, 1/8 Turkish, 1/8 Mexican, 1/8 Italian, 1/8 Jewish, 1/8 black, and 1/8 Hindu. With so many identities, one is likely to be just some generic pop-culture worshiping fool as it will remain the only 'culture' that has relevance in our consumer-driven society.

    What is Rashida Jones?

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  65. @anonymous
    "The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel."

    Wrong.

    The Israeli Jewish elite - secular Ashkenazim whose families have been in the country since independence or before - overwhelmingly voted for the Obama-worshipping quisling Herzog and his humorously misnamed "Zionist Camp" party or the other leftist parties (Meretz and Yesh Atid). The left parties trip over their own feet trying to placate Obama, the PA and Israeli Arabs, and, along with Israeli big business, are eager to welcome unskilled African vagrants into the country to pump up their own vote. The Israeli left threw a temper tantrum a few months ago when Netanyahu proposed an innocuous law that would have given legal recognition to the state's character as the state of the Jewish people.

    The Israeli Right, which is committed to maintaining Israel's Jewish character, won on the votes of the Jewish non-elite - Jews of Middle Eastern background, religiously observant Jews, and immigrants from the former Soviet Union.

    After the election, the leftwing Israeli pundit Gideon Levy wrote a column in Haaretz, Israel's equivalent of the NY Times, calling for a new election to replace - literally, replace (the word in Hebrew is le-hachlif, you can look it up) - the Israeli people. How's that for a commitment to "Jewish supremacy"?

    Look at the demographics/election results of Tel Aviv vis-à-vis the rest of the country. Tel-Aviv, the arena of the elites, has almost nil minorities.

    Sort of like Harvard, Yale, Princeton…

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  66. They all have this much in common: they all want to be here and they are. No matter what their status back home all classes paricipate in the stampede to the US and seem to want us to bring in even more people like them.

    I still have trouble wrapping my mind around this. I know it is real, but I don’t see how it came about. If you look at the New World over the past 2 centuries, it is clear the British part outperformed the Spanish/Portuguese part. Our population which was about a third of Latin America’s at the time of our founding, grew to become larger by the turn of the 20th century. Economically, militarily, culturally, scientifically, the British part of the New World far eclipsed the Latin part.

    A neutral third party would probably have expected the British New World to have encroached upon Latin America a century ago, much like the American settlers into Texas were able to do in the 1830s.

    Yet today the opposite is happening. Latin America now has over 70 percent more people than British America. And they are threatening to turn us into a de facto part of Latin America. Despite America still being strong and militarily unchallenged in the world, we are the ones being changed, not them.

    There appears to be nothing in their culture that has changed over the past 60 years to produce a superior society in regards to technology, business, military, or cultural affairs. As Steve has often pointed out, Mexicans have produced a dearth of accomplishment in America despite their numbers. But numbers is the one area where they seemed to have excelled. And it is numbers, and numbers alone, which is causing this change in the balance of the New World cultures.

    But even with their population growth, they have no military might to enforce their will. And we are still the most powerful nation. It just doesn’t make sense. There must be something in the water. I still can’t really believe it is happening.

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    You're exactly right. The whole thing seems to make very little sense.
    , @anonymous

    But even with their population growth, they have no military might to enforce their will. And we are still the most powerful nation. It just doesn’t make sense. There must be something in the water. I still can’t really believe it is happening.
     
    We're outwardly strong but increasingly weak inwardly. We are divided against ourselves and can no longer muster the resolve to do anything about it barring Civil War II. We were watching the front door whist leaving the back door open. Meanwhile facts on the ground continue to trend in the same direction. The elites can ride herd on the masses which is what they're banking on but ultimately in the long run demographics is destiny.
    , @Anonymous
    Yes, and it was all going the 'natural' way until the disaster of Kennedy and Johnson.
    , @ben tillman

    As Steve has often pointed out, Mexicans have produced a dearth of accomplishment in America despite their numbers. But numbers is the one area where they seemed to have excelled. And it is numbers, and numbers alone, which is causing this change in the balance of the New World cultures.

    But even with their population growth, they have no military might to enforce their will.
     
    Of course, they do, at least to the extent their will is to enter the US. The US government uses its military to facilitate their invasion of the US.
  67. @notsaying
    #15 -

    Today's Republicans limit the number of white votes they get by being so against the social safety net for people who are not retired.

    There's a lot of white working age voters who aren't doing well. I feel Republicans are very hostile towards these people -- and there are tens of millions of them!

    Even if you don't like Democrats, if you think you may ever be sick or jobless and need help, it's very hard to vote for the Republican Party's candidates who say they don't like you and constantly make it clear they don't want people like you in their party.

    I don't see how the Republican Party can ever hope to get another President into the White House if it doesn' t loosen up and stop picking on working age people who are or may become financially insecure.

    The GOP lives and dies on the myth of tax cuts.

    Their problem is that they give cuts only to business, not to individuals. I will note that switching from income to consumption base, directly hits the other side’s base hard.

    If you want to cut taxes in [insert Midwestern state here] the way to do it is slashing public employee compensation, and limiting Medicaid growth.

    Real leadership would be found in reducing the “tuition tax”, by whacking leftist academics and university administrators. Rick Perry started on that path in Texas, one of the few things he did right.

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    Marco Rubio wants to eliminate income tax on capital gains, dividends, and interest. The Republicans think they've brainwashed their white, working class voters into thinking that all tax cuts are good, so they'll go along with it. And they're probably right.

    In my CPA days I once saw a return with $100 million in income, all of it from capital gains and dividends. He owed $15 million in taxes. Had that income been ordinary (like wages) instead of capital, he would have owed $35 million. Under Rubio's plan, he would have owed zero. Also owing zero would be a member of the lucky sperm club who doesn't work and gets all of his income from dividends and capital gains flowing through from a trust set up by his parents (and I've seen returns like that as well). I'm all for a flatter, less progressive tax structure. But on what planet is Rubio's plan fair or sane? Seems to me the end result would be the creation of an Aristocratic class the likes of which the world has never seen.

  68. @Reg Cæsar

    An attainable goal for the Republican Party to aim for in the 2016 election would be about 2/3 of the White vote.

     

    A better, and equally achievable, goal would be reducing Democrats to even less than 1/3 of the white vote. And you don't even have to wait for the Republicans!

    Obama carried the white male vote in all of five states, three with well below-average nonwhite populations, and two with almost no nonwhites at all. If we can get white women down to a similar level, it's over for the Dems. At least for awhile.

    I do wonder if the myth of “voter suppression” ever really will get legs with the right’s activists. Reducing turnout appears easier than winning over more voters.

    Rolling back all-mail elections is an easy step, limiting early voting to in-person with valid excuse would be another.

    Or we could go all Ranjeesh on the ‘hood.

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  69. @Jefferson
    "Jefferson:

    “What are the odds of that?”

    Pretty high, since I have golden red hair and my wife is auburn haired."

    Does it make you sad that most gingers do not seek out other gingers to breed with? It certainly does not help increase the ginger population in the world when most gingers end up breeding with non gingers.

    It certainly does not help increase the ginger population in the world when most gingers end up breeding with non gingers.

    That could be because it’s utterly rotten to be ginger…

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  70. @Priss Factor
    All I know is...

    I'll take Mexicans over blacks.

    If this country is gonna take in more blacks, any bunch of non-blacks will do just to serve as buffer against the ghastly Negroes.

    You’ll get both. Which reminds me of this joke: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/jokes/read/260614/

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  71. Christopher Caldwell is perhaps the finest aphorist in journalism today.

    I know you’re not fishing here, so I’ll just come out and enthusiastically say- no, Steve, the finest aphorist in the biz would be YOU.

    To sloppily paraphrase some of your greatest hits-

    “Discrimination turtles all the way down…”

    “White people like to hire Mexicans for jobs and give black people awards….”

    “… didn’t bother with the technicality of actually occurring…”

    And, since it requires no iSteve background to get, yet so perfectly encapsulates so many of your favorite themes, your all-time #1-

    “… was corroborated repeatedly by many independent observers, which makes it a stereotype, which necessarily means it must be untrue.”

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  72. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @iSteveFan

    They all have this much in common: they all want to be here and they are. No matter what their status back home all classes paricipate in the stampede to the US and seem to want us to bring in even more people like them.
     
    I still have trouble wrapping my mind around this. I know it is real, but I don't see how it came about. If you look at the New World over the past 2 centuries, it is clear the British part outperformed the Spanish/Portuguese part. Our population which was about a third of Latin America's at the time of our founding, grew to become larger by the turn of the 20th century. Economically, militarily, culturally, scientifically, the British part of the New World far eclipsed the Latin part.

    A neutral third party would probably have expected the British New World to have encroached upon Latin America a century ago, much like the American settlers into Texas were able to do in the 1830s.

    Yet today the opposite is happening. Latin America now has over 70 percent more people than British America. And they are threatening to turn us into a de facto part of Latin America. Despite America still being strong and militarily unchallenged in the world, we are the ones being changed, not them.

    There appears to be nothing in their culture that has changed over the past 60 years to produce a superior society in regards to technology, business, military, or cultural affairs. As Steve has often pointed out, Mexicans have produced a dearth of accomplishment in America despite their numbers. But numbers is the one area where they seemed to have excelled. And it is numbers, and numbers alone, which is causing this change in the balance of the New World cultures.

    But even with their population growth, they have no military might to enforce their will. And we are still the most powerful nation. It just doesn't make sense. There must be something in the water. I still can't really believe it is happening.

    You’re exactly right. The whole thing seems to make very little sense.

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  73. @Jefferson
    "The so-called browning of America has not happened yet and will not likely happen anytime soon"

    You live in rural Colorado, so of course the Browning of America will not reach your area anytime soon and when it does you will be long dead. Have you visited America's major metropolitan areas lately? Remember that the majority of the U.S population is not living the rural green acres is the place to be farm living is the life for me lifestyle.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzT1kO_-xbQ

    Rural people are sheltered from DIEversity just like upper middle class people and rich people in major metropolitan areas.

    You live in rural Colorado, so of course the Browning of America will not reach your area anytime soon and when it does you will be long dead. Have you visited America’s major metropolitan areas lately?

    1. I do not live in Colorado. 2. Yes.

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    One crucial aspect, I believe overlooked, is that by and large white women – a group that can be relied upon to exercise backstabbing disloyalty for temporal gain for themselves and for the unceasing eternal quest to assert the dominance of the yoni over the lingam, by the strategem of bending *man* made legal and control systems to advantage themselves – will side with the ‘minorities’ against white men.
    In the short term,advantages, and the cosmic satisfaction of seeing the final messianic triumph of the yoni, will accrue to white women. But, ultimately, the disaster they have wrought will be of truly apopclyctic proportions. No more ‘yins’ or ‘yans’, but complete anhillation.

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  75. @countenance
    One of my axioms:

    If, of the seven billion people on Earth, just one of them is a straight white gentile cisgendered man, the other 6,999,999,999 people will all be oppressed minorities.

    If, of the seven billion people on Earth, just one of them is a straight white gentile cisgendered man, the other 6,999,999,999 people will all be oppressed minorities.

    That’s the End of History and the Last White Man hypothesis.

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  76. People weren’t too keen about populating fly over country with Eastern Europeans in the 19th Century. And also the Irish. Not very popular at the time. Italians? Barely white.

    What has changed is that it is no longer popular to assimilate as quickly as possible.

    Anyone that wants to act white is ok with me.

    Our white ancestors of century ago would throw up at people we consider solid white citizens now. Mormons?

    And, assimilation is more popular than it appears, still. What would really turn things around is to make it cool.

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  77. @Dave Pinsen
    Do races ever really mix into one? Mixed race countries still tend to be somewhat heterogenous. Out of curiosity, I just looked up the justices of the Brazilian Supreme Court. Justice JOSÉ CELSO DE MELLO FILHO, to pick one example, doesn't exactly look like all the races of Brazil blended together.

    doesn’t exactly look like all the races of Brazil blended together.

    They will eventually, because that’s the long-term equilibrium that mixing moves towards. Brazil’s only had a few hundred years at it, which should be adjusted down to account for the massive waves of European immigration at the start of the 20th century. A much better example of what long-term mixing leads to is India, which long ago wiped out all traces of white appearance in that land. There are some profound racial differences left, but the range of difference is much less than Brazil’s.

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    Considering how long ago dark-haired invaders conquered the Dravidians its a pretty big difference. The upper caste isn't just lighter-skinned. They are taller. About 50% of marriages are arranged. There is a strong skepticism towards romantic love. And of course there is caste. Upper caste Indians behave in a way that westerners cannot comprehend because India is also a servant culture. It's possible that a similar caste system will appear in the west in the not too distant future. Status-marking is picking up among elites. Factoring in the much greater genetic differences between groups in the west, a distinct european high caste could very well materialize.
    , @Cicero
    One of the finest pronouncements ever made on Brazilian ethnic identity, and one that could be extended to all societies that have diverse intermixed populations was penned by Euclides da Cunha in his book Os Sertões (1902).* I think it is relevant to America as well, more so with each passing day.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Os_Sert%C3%B5es

    "...The Brazilian, as an abstract type that we seek to define, can only be viewed as a human type in progress, the result of an extraordinarily complex mixing of races. In theory he would be the light-brown-skinned type, the product of successive crossings of the mulatto, the curiboca, and the cafuzo. However, it is unrealistic, if not absurd, to insist on the reality of such a type. The history of each region of Brazil varies greatly, as does the climate. The different racial types react differently to each of these factors. The rates of miscegenation also vary greatly by region. In colonial times racial mixing occurred because of armed invasions. From that time to the present day it has also been the result of the arrival of new populations. It is a process that has never been consistent...

    ...In summary, the many opinions expressed on this subject have been diverse and of dubious validity.

    We believe that the confusion is due to the focus of these studies on a single ethnic type, when in fact there are many. We do not have a unified race. We may never have one. We are predestined to create a historic race, providing that our nation remains autonomous long enough to produce it. In this regard we are inverting the natural order: Our biological evolution depends on social process.

    We are condemned to civilization. Either we progress or we become extinct. That much is certain.

    It is not just the heterogeneity of our ancestral heritage that suggests this. Other equally important conditions reinforce it--- the vast and diverse physical environment of our country combined with a continuous flux of historical situations, which are in large part shaped by the environment. This is a subject we must briefly consider..."

    (pg. 60-62, Penguin Classics edition)

    *I read this book in translation a few years back, and it truly is fantastic and perfect material for iSteve. It covers race, culture, geography, religion, politics, and military strategy and wraps it all up in a gripping narrative about progressive liberal modernism vs traditional religious peasant society in an all-out war that killed tens of thousands before it ended. One of the best books to ever come out of Brazilian literature, and one that has a place in the World literary canon as well.
  78. @syonredux

    Look at Israel. As Steve wrote a few posts back the conventional wisdom at the end of the 2oth Century was that the Jewish State was demographically doomed. Now just a short time later the projections have changed. They are not exactly out of the woods. Things could change again for the worse. But at least they recognize what is at stake and took appropriate action.
     
    Sadly, we cannot look to Israel.The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel.The White American elite, in contrast, is committed to mass immigration/open borders.

    Yes, and in most cases they are the same elite.

    [Justice Scalia, a favorite of “conservatives,” is openly philosemitic, loves to quote the Torah as “the foundation of our laws,” and would wear a yarmulke if he thought he could get away with it. Conservatives worry about “sharia law being imposed on us” while Scalia gleefully addresses Talmud academies. Since Justice Thomas is his dummy, that makes at least two crypto-judaics on the court, in addition to the openly Judaic.

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  79. @Priss Factor
    All I know is...

    I'll take Mexicans over blacks.

    If this country is gonna take in more blacks, any bunch of non-blacks will do just to serve as buffer against the ghastly Negroes.

    All I know is…

    I’ll take Mexicans over blacks.

    If this country is gonna take in more blacks, any bunch of non-blacks will do just to serve as buffer against the ghastly Negroes.

    If blacks are stronger and more intimidating than whites, as you never fail to remind people, then surely they are stronger and more intimidating than Mexicans. So why do I so rarely hear stories of outrageous black violence against Mexicans as I do against whites? Do these incidents happen as regularly but the information doesn’t reach me or is there something about Mexican behavior that makes blacks think twice?

    As for your buffer concept, that’s definitely true. Latinos are a better choice than Asians, I believe. Even though they’re dumber they are more likeable, and more importantly, they are more willing to openly stand up to black thuggery, whereas Asians take the more circumspect and duplicitous route of Jews. Some way to split their ranks between white-sympathizers and indio-sympathizers without being insulting to the latter (otherwise the former will side with them) will have to be found.

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    "So why do I so rarely hear stories of outrageous black violence against Mexicans as I do against whites? Do these incidents happen as regularly but the information doesn’t reach me or is there something about Mexican behavior that makes blacks think twice?"

    Must be an information problem. Black criminals prey on Latinos whenever and wherever they can. That many are illegal, speak Spanish only and carry cash makes them very vulnerable and blacks take full advantage of it. A few years ago at work a black woman was ridiculing the Mexicans she saw around town and pointed out they always seemed to travel in groups. "Little armies" she called them. I didn't bother to ask her why she thought that might be! The head of the police gang unit had some ideas about this though and told me he was very concerned about the day Latinos in this city became numerous and well established enough to change the rules of the game!

    , @CMPX
    "So why do I so rarely hear stories of outrageous black violence against Mexicans as I do against whites? Do these incidents happen as regularly but the information doesn’t reach me or is there something about Mexican behavior that makes blacks think twice?"

    Most black on "white" homicide victims counted in government statistics are actually hispanic.
    , @Jefferson
    "As for your buffer concept, that’s definitely true. Latinos are a better choice than Asians, I believe. Even though they’re dumber they are more likeable, and more importantly, they are more willing to openly stand up to black thuggery, whereas Asians take the more circumspect and duplicitous route of Jews."

    The irony that you like Hispanics more than Asians and Jews, even though Hispanics are way more likely than Asians and Jews to have Black blood pumping through their hearts. And not just Caribbean Hispanics even Mexicans have Black blood in them, Sub Saharan DNA showed up in the ancestry results of Mexican celebrities Eva Longoria and George Lopez.

    Under the old Jim Crow one drop rule laws, Asians and Jews would be higher on the racial food chain than Hispanics because of the lack of Sub Saharan DNA in Jews and Asians.

  80. @anonymous
    "The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel."

    Wrong.

    The Israeli Jewish elite - secular Ashkenazim whose families have been in the country since independence or before - overwhelmingly voted for the Obama-worshipping quisling Herzog and his humorously misnamed "Zionist Camp" party or the other leftist parties (Meretz and Yesh Atid). The left parties trip over their own feet trying to placate Obama, the PA and Israeli Arabs, and, along with Israeli big business, are eager to welcome unskilled African vagrants into the country to pump up their own vote. The Israeli left threw a temper tantrum a few months ago when Netanyahu proposed an innocuous law that would have given legal recognition to the state's character as the state of the Jewish people.

    The Israeli Right, which is committed to maintaining Israel's Jewish character, won on the votes of the Jewish non-elite - Jews of Middle Eastern background, religiously observant Jews, and immigrants from the former Soviet Union.

    After the election, the leftwing Israeli pundit Gideon Levy wrote a column in Haaretz, Israel's equivalent of the NY Times, calling for a new election to replace - literally, replace (the word in Hebrew is le-hachlif, you can look it up) - the Israeli people. How's that for a commitment to "Jewish supremacy"?

    party or the other leftist parties (Meretz and Yesh Atid).

    Only in the mind of a rabid ultra-zionist could Yesh Atid be considered leftist. I think a lot of Yesh Atid’s votes went to Likud in this election, which if true shows just how “leftist” they are.

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    No Yesh Atid retained its voters from the last election; it was the other right wing parties (chiefly Bayit Yehudi, whose number of seats dropped sharply) that lost their voters to Likud. There is no difference between Yesh Atid and Labor (aka "Zionist Camp" [sic]) on security issues. And there is not really any difference anymore on security issues between either Labor or Yesh Atid and Meretz.
  81. @Maj. Kong
    The GOP lives and dies on the myth of tax cuts.

    Their problem is that they give cuts only to business, not to individuals. I will note that switching from income to consumption base, directly hits the other side's base hard.

    If you want to cut taxes in [insert Midwestern state here] the way to do it is slashing public employee compensation, and limiting Medicaid growth.

    Real leadership would be found in reducing the "tuition tax", by whacking leftist academics and university administrators. Rick Perry started on that path in Texas, one of the few things he did right.

    Marco Rubio wants to eliminate income tax on capital gains, dividends, and interest. The Republicans think they’ve brainwashed their white, working class voters into thinking that all tax cuts are good, so they’ll go along with it. And they’re probably right.

    In my CPA days I once saw a return with $100 million in income, all of it from capital gains and dividends. He owed $15 million in taxes. Had that income been ordinary (like wages) instead of capital, he would have owed $35 million. Under Rubio’s plan, he would have owed zero. Also owing zero would be a member of the lucky sperm club who doesn’t work and gets all of his income from dividends and capital gains flowing through from a trust set up by his parents (and I’ve seen returns like that as well). I’m all for a flatter, less progressive tax structure. But on what planet is Rubio’s plan fair or sane? Seems to me the end result would be the creation of an Aristocratic class the likes of which the world has never seen.

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    • Replies: @Maj. Kong

    Seems to me the end result would be the creation of an Aristocratic class the likes of which the world has never seen.
     
    Does the name, "Boris Yelstin" ring a bell? The term "oligarch"?
  82. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @iSteveFan

    They all have this much in common: they all want to be here and they are. No matter what their status back home all classes paricipate in the stampede to the US and seem to want us to bring in even more people like them.
     
    I still have trouble wrapping my mind around this. I know it is real, but I don't see how it came about. If you look at the New World over the past 2 centuries, it is clear the British part outperformed the Spanish/Portuguese part. Our population which was about a third of Latin America's at the time of our founding, grew to become larger by the turn of the 20th century. Economically, militarily, culturally, scientifically, the British part of the New World far eclipsed the Latin part.

    A neutral third party would probably have expected the British New World to have encroached upon Latin America a century ago, much like the American settlers into Texas were able to do in the 1830s.

    Yet today the opposite is happening. Latin America now has over 70 percent more people than British America. And they are threatening to turn us into a de facto part of Latin America. Despite America still being strong and militarily unchallenged in the world, we are the ones being changed, not them.

    There appears to be nothing in their culture that has changed over the past 60 years to produce a superior society in regards to technology, business, military, or cultural affairs. As Steve has often pointed out, Mexicans have produced a dearth of accomplishment in America despite their numbers. But numbers is the one area where they seemed to have excelled. And it is numbers, and numbers alone, which is causing this change in the balance of the New World cultures.

    But even with their population growth, they have no military might to enforce their will. And we are still the most powerful nation. It just doesn't make sense. There must be something in the water. I still can't really believe it is happening.

    But even with their population growth, they have no military might to enforce their will. And we are still the most powerful nation. It just doesn’t make sense. There must be something in the water. I still can’t really believe it is happening.

    We’re outwardly strong but increasingly weak inwardly. We are divided against ourselves and can no longer muster the resolve to do anything about it barring Civil War II. We were watching the front door whist leaving the back door open. Meanwhile facts on the ground continue to trend in the same direction. The elites can ride herd on the masses which is what they’re banking on but ultimately in the long run demographics is destiny.

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    We were watching the front door whist leaving the back door open.

    I think we're watching the neighbor's house whilst leaving both our front and back doors open.
  83. @Jefferson
    I am glad that the term Non Hispanic White exists because if you eliminate it altogether and just stick to the term White, it gives the false impression that a whopping 77 percent of the U.S population is actually legit White.

    Do 77 out of every 100 Americans actually racially look like The Republican Party? If America was actually 77 percent White right now, there is no way Hussein Obama would have defeated Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential elections.

    How many Nacho Varga looking people (Mexican gangster from "Better Call Saul") are in that 77 percent White stat from the U.S census bureau? Quite a lot.

    Interesting fact about the actor that plays Nacho Varga, Michael Mando. He is from Quebec City, Canada and spent much of his childhood in Ghana and Ivory Coast. Quebec City is probably the largest whitest city in North America, with roughly 95 percent of its three quarters of a million people being white (mostly French of course).

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  84. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @rod1963
    Andrew

    That's what Story Musgrave did. Astronaut and polymath, He started as a farmer, became a doctor, a astronaut and retired and is a landscaper today. He also had six children along the way.

    But what he did just makes too much sense for a lot of folks here. They prefer good old fashioned statistical manipulation to worm their way out of becoming minorities and eventual extinction. Anything but reproduction.

    But Musgrave is old school from a different era. That of my parents, different values and view on life.

    One of the big problems with high IQ whites of today is that they aren't family types for the most part. Passion for them is a hot diode. Another problem is they often work in industries that thrive on their innate love of workaholism and personal sacrifice. Great for the Gates, Ballmers and Ellisons which benefit from the work but which comes at the price of a personal life and a family.

    The smart ones realize it's a nasty scam and leave before it sucks their soul and sanity and they become just another dried out husk in a Herman-Miller cube.

    Another problem is they often work in industries that thrive on their innate love of workaholism and personal sacrifice.

    Reminds me of the smart couple in the movie Idiocracy who say they don’t think they could afford to have children right now because the market is down. Costs more and more to get the right home, the right schools, the right neighborhood, always on the treadmill. Meanwhile, the others are unconcerned and pop the kids out; God will provide, they say.

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  85. The bottom line is that redhead chicks are hot, and they do not need to go gently into that genetic good night. I love ‘em.

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  86. @Steve Sailer
    A generation ago a Poland-born man was ruled eligible for a tax break for being Hispanic because his ancestors got kicked out of Spain in 1492.

    But that classic case might have been a one-off. Or it might be such settled law that it never comes up again.

    A generation ago a Poland-born man was ruled eligible for a tax break for being Hispanic because his ancestors got kicked out of Spain in 1492.

    But that classic case might have been a one-off. Or it might be such settled law that it never comes up again.

    On the other hand, when Sonia Sotomayor was named to the Supreme Court, people declared her the first Hispanic Justice.Benjamin Cardozo doesn’t seem to count…..

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    Cardozo's ancestors came from Portugal, not Spain, so I'm not sure he could be called Hispanic. Latin or Iberian would be accurate, though, I suppose.
  87. @Priss Factor
    One thing that can be done is to divide Hispanics into 'white' and 'non-white'.

    That way, whites(non-Hispanic and Hispanic) could remain the majority for much longer.

    One thing that can be done is to divide Hispanics into ‘white’ and ‘non-white’.

    That way, whites(non-Hispanic and Hispanic) could remain the majority for much longer.

    While we’re at it, let’s reclassify Blacks and East Asians and West Asians as “white” as well. Perpetual “white” majority — hooray!

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    Just read, in that execrable was of butt-fodder, The Economist magazine, of all places, that the number of ‘Hispsanics,’ in the USA increased from something around 3 million to 60 million in the last 65 years or so.
    An absolutely astonishing rate of increase that probably has never been matched in the whole long, long course of recorded and unrecorded human history. We’re talking hyper exponential here. The only surprise is that this demographic H bomb never provoked anything even resembling a backlash in the USA.
    The only moral to be drawn is that in these days of political fools and cowards and mass transit, the merest trickle of third world immigration will inevitably amplify tsunami style no matter how ‘small’ the initial trickle is. And it really must be compared to ‘an unstoppable force of nature, is neither politics, public discontent or the full panoply of rational argument can do a damn thing to moderate, let alone stop it.

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  89. Anonymous says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @iSteveFan

    They all have this much in common: they all want to be here and they are. No matter what their status back home all classes paricipate in the stampede to the US and seem to want us to bring in even more people like them.
     
    I still have trouble wrapping my mind around this. I know it is real, but I don't see how it came about. If you look at the New World over the past 2 centuries, it is clear the British part outperformed the Spanish/Portuguese part. Our population which was about a third of Latin America's at the time of our founding, grew to become larger by the turn of the 20th century. Economically, militarily, culturally, scientifically, the British part of the New World far eclipsed the Latin part.

    A neutral third party would probably have expected the British New World to have encroached upon Latin America a century ago, much like the American settlers into Texas were able to do in the 1830s.

    Yet today the opposite is happening. Latin America now has over 70 percent more people than British America. And they are threatening to turn us into a de facto part of Latin America. Despite America still being strong and militarily unchallenged in the world, we are the ones being changed, not them.

    There appears to be nothing in their culture that has changed over the past 60 years to produce a superior society in regards to technology, business, military, or cultural affairs. As Steve has often pointed out, Mexicans have produced a dearth of accomplishment in America despite their numbers. But numbers is the one area where they seemed to have excelled. And it is numbers, and numbers alone, which is causing this change in the balance of the New World cultures.

    But even with their population growth, they have no military might to enforce their will. And we are still the most powerful nation. It just doesn't make sense. There must be something in the water. I still can't really believe it is happening.

    Yes, and it was all going the ‘natural’ way until the disaster of Kennedy and Johnson.

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  90. @anonymous
    "The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel."

    Wrong.

    The Israeli Jewish elite - secular Ashkenazim whose families have been in the country since independence or before - overwhelmingly voted for the Obama-worshipping quisling Herzog and his humorously misnamed "Zionist Camp" party or the other leftist parties (Meretz and Yesh Atid). The left parties trip over their own feet trying to placate Obama, the PA and Israeli Arabs, and, along with Israeli big business, are eager to welcome unskilled African vagrants into the country to pump up their own vote. The Israeli left threw a temper tantrum a few months ago when Netanyahu proposed an innocuous law that would have given legal recognition to the state's character as the state of the Jewish people.

    The Israeli Right, which is committed to maintaining Israel's Jewish character, won on the votes of the Jewish non-elite - Jews of Middle Eastern background, religiously observant Jews, and immigrants from the former Soviet Union.

    After the election, the leftwing Israeli pundit Gideon Levy wrote a column in Haaretz, Israel's equivalent of the NY Times, calling for a new election to replace - literally, replace (the word in Hebrew is le-hachlif, you can look it up) - the Israeli people. How's that for a commitment to "Jewish supremacy"?

    “The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel.”

    Wrong.

    The Israeli Jewish elite – secular Ashkenazim whose families have been in the country since independence or before – overwhelmingly voted for the Obama-worshipping quisling Herzog….

    I think we’re seeing some confusion from a conflation of “elite” and “rulers”. The elite do not necessarily rule.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    Israel's permanent rulers are its leftist elite, in the bureaucracy, the highest ranks of the security services, the courts, the large corporations and law firms, academia and the media. All of these are dominated by the left in Israel, and always have been. An elected government of the right must constantly fight this permanent ruling class, and does not always prevail (see e.g. the recent Supreme Court ruling against detention of African vagrants who have no legal right to be in Israel and, for another example, the bureaucracy's successful pulling of the plug on Israel's development of its offshore natural gas resources on some sort of bogus anti-trust pretext). In the election campaign just ended, recently retired high-ranking figures from the security services (the military, the Mossad, the police) vocally supported Herzog.
  91. @Anonym
    We’re seeing the emergence of the concept of a “legacy majority,” tainted by blood, that will forever remain responsible for the shortcomings of other groups.

    For as long as we decide to shoulder that yoke. I suspect that PC will become an anachronism, and the idea that white people should whimper and cringe when called racists instead of bristling will also be an anachronism.

    For as long as we decide to shoulder that yoke. I suspect that PC will become an anachronism, and the idea that white people should whimper and cringe when called racists instead of bristling will also be an anachronism.

    In his first book, The Logic of Collective Action: Public Goods and the Theory of Groups (1965), Mancur Olson theorized that what stimulates people to act in groups is incentive; members of large groups do not act in accordance with a common interest unless motivated by personal gain (economic, social, etc.). While small groups can act on shared objectives, large groups will not work towards shared objectives unless their individual members are sufficiently motivated.

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  92. @Jefferson
    I can't think of any famous ginger celebrity who was in a serious relationship with another ginger. Ginger actress Jessica Chastain is in a relationship with a dark haired Italian man named Gian Luca Passi de Preposulo. Ginger haired Lucille Ball was married to the dark haired Cuban Desi Arnaz. The ginger actor Louis C.K was married to a dark haired woman named Alix Bailey. Ginger actor Rupert Grint is only seen dating brunettes and blondes. Ginger actor Seth Green is married to a woman named Clare Grant who is sometimes a brunette and sometimes a blonde. Ginger haired actor David Caruso was married to 2 brunettes and a 1 blonde. I can go on and on.

    Ginger couples seem to be the most rarest of couples, even more rare than Oriental male/White female couples.

    Actually, Lucille Ball was a natural brunette.

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  93. @McFly
    Has any right-leaning writer explored how imprecise and deceptive the phrase "affirmative action" is?

    "Action" means "doing something."

    "Affirmative" means "good."

    Why not just use the plainly descriptive terms "race-based admissions," "racial quotas," and "racial discrimination?" (Rhetorical)

    Has any right-leaning writer explored how imprecise and deceptive the phrase “affirmative action” is?

    I’ve said the same thing about “amnesty” for years. Way too soft and weak a word for what’s threatened. But does anyone listen? It’s our side that’s using it!

    And “liberal”…. I’ve never met a progressive with a liberal bone in his body.

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    @syonredux

    A generation ago a Poland-born man was ruled eligible for a tax break for being Hispanic because his ancestors got kicked out of Spain in 1492.

    But that classic case might have been a one-off. Or it might be such settled law that it never comes up again.
     
    On the other hand, when Sonia Sotomayor was named to the Supreme Court, people declared her the first Hispanic Justice.Benjamin Cardozo doesn't seem to count.....

    Cardozo’s ancestors came from Portugal, not Spain, so I’m not sure he could be called Hispanic. Latin or Iberian would be accurate, though, I suppose.

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    "Cardozo’s ancestors came from Portugal, not Spain, so I’m not sure he could be called Hispanic. Latin or Iberian would be accurate, though, I suppose."

    How about Celt.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_nations#/media/File:Ethnographic_Iberia_200_BCE.PNG
  95. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @ben tillman

    “The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel.”

    Wrong.

    The Israeli Jewish elite – secular Ashkenazim whose families have been in the country since independence or before – overwhelmingly voted for the Obama-worshipping quisling Herzog....
     
    I think we're seeing some confusion from a conflation of "elite" and "rulers". The elite do not necessarily rule.

    Israel’s permanent rulers are its leftist elite, in the bureaucracy, the highest ranks of the security services, the courts, the large corporations and law firms, academia and the media. All of these are dominated by the left in Israel, and always have been. An elected government of the right must constantly fight this permanent ruling class, and does not always prevail (see e.g. the recent Supreme Court ruling against detention of African vagrants who have no legal right to be in Israel and, for another example, the bureaucracy’s successful pulling of the plug on Israel’s development of its offshore natural gas resources on some sort of bogus anti-trust pretext). In the election campaign just ended, recently retired high-ranking figures from the security services (the military, the Mossad, the police) vocally supported Herzog.

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    • Replies: @Art Deco
    e.g. the recent Supreme Court ruling against detention of African vagrants who have no legal right to be in Israel

    --

    Israel has a body of constitutional law but no Constitution per se. Acts of parliament can over-rule rogue court decisions.
  96. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @silviosilver

    party or the other leftist parties (Meretz and Yesh Atid).
     
    Only in the mind of a rabid ultra-zionist could Yesh Atid be considered leftist. I think a lot of Yesh Atid's votes went to Likud in this election, which if true shows just how "leftist" they are.

    No Yesh Atid retained its voters from the last election; it was the other right wing parties (chiefly Bayit Yehudi, whose number of seats dropped sharply) that lost their voters to Likud. There is no difference between Yesh Atid and Labor (aka “Zionist Camp” [sic]) on security issues. And there is not really any difference anymore on security issues between either Labor or Yesh Atid and Meretz.

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    • Replies: @Art Deco
    No Yesh Atid retained its voters from the last election; it was the other right wing parties (chiefly Bayit Yehudi, whose number of seats dropped sharply) that lost their voters to Likud.

    Yesh Atid lost 40% of its seats. It's a reasonable wager that Yesh Atid will follow the same trajectory of other novelty parties derived from inchoate public exasperation (recall Dash and Kadima). Coming up on their tail is Kulanu, which has more affinity for Likud.

    The Jewish Home lost about a third of theirs. The black hat parties lost about 15%. Over two elections, Yisrael Beitanu has lost about 60% of their support.
  97. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jefferson
    "The so-called browning of America has not happened yet and will not likely happen anytime soon"

    You live in rural Colorado, so of course the Browning of America will not reach your area anytime soon and when it does you will be long dead. Have you visited America's major metropolitan areas lately? Remember that the majority of the U.S population is not living the rural green acres is the place to be farm living is the life for me lifestyle.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzT1kO_-xbQ

    Rural people are sheltered from DIEversity just like upper middle class people and rich people in major metropolitan areas.

    You live in rural Colorado, so of course the Browning of America will not reach your area anytime soon and when it does you will be long dead. Have you visited America’s major metropolitan areas lately? Remember that the majority of the U.S population is not living the rural green acres is the place to be farm living is the life for me lifestyle.

    Have you been to Boston/Cambridge lately? It is pretty white with a large and burgeoning Chinese population. The NAMs will be priced out and will need to retreat to Lynn, Lawrence, Lowell, et al. Right now Boston is a pretty safe city.

    D.C. is becoming non-NAM and safer as well. Same with San Fran.

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  98. @silviosilver

    All I know is…

    I’ll take Mexicans over blacks.

    If this country is gonna take in more blacks, any bunch of non-blacks will do just to serve as buffer against the ghastly Negroes.
     
    If blacks are stronger and more intimidating than whites, as you never fail to remind people, then surely they are stronger and more intimidating than Mexicans. So why do I so rarely hear stories of outrageous black violence against Mexicans as I do against whites? Do these incidents happen as regularly but the information doesn't reach me or is there something about Mexican behavior that makes blacks think twice?

    As for your buffer concept, that's definitely true. Latinos are a better choice than Asians, I believe. Even though they're dumber they are more likeable, and more importantly, they are more willing to openly stand up to black thuggery, whereas Asians take the more circumspect and duplicitous route of Jews. Some way to split their ranks between white-sympathizers and indio-sympathizers without being insulting to the latter (otherwise the former will side with them) will have to be found.

    “So why do I so rarely hear stories of outrageous black violence against Mexicans as I do against whites? Do these incidents happen as regularly but the information doesn’t reach me or is there something about Mexican behavior that makes blacks think twice?”

    Must be an information problem. Black criminals prey on Latinos whenever and wherever they can. That many are illegal, speak Spanish only and carry cash makes them very vulnerable and blacks take full advantage of it. A few years ago at work a black woman was ridiculing the Mexicans she saw around town and pointed out they always seemed to travel in groups. “Little armies” she called them. I didn’t bother to ask her why she thought that might be! The head of the police gang unit had some ideas about this though and told me he was very concerned about the day Latinos in this city became numerous and well established enough to change the rules of the game!

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  99. @Steve Sailer
    I thought Lucy dyed her hair red?

    Hair dyeing technology improved irregularly over the course of the 20th Century. For awhile, red dyes were the best performers.

    In the Fred Astaire movie Follow the Fleet, Lucy played a blonde chorus girl. Most women with blonde hair dye it, but it may have been more or less her natural color.

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  100. @Priss Factor
    If diversity is good, why is race-mixing also good when it mongrelizes the races into one?
    And if races get mixed, won't cultural identities suffer since it gets pretty confusing to maintain an identity that is, say, 1/8 German, 1/8 Chinese, 1/8 Turkish, 1/8 Mexican, 1/8 Italian, 1/8 Jewish, 1/8 black, and 1/8 Hindu. With so many identities, one is likely to be just some generic pop-culture worshiping fool as it will remain the only 'culture' that has relevance in our consumer-driven society.

    With so many identities, one is likely to be just some generic pop-culture worshiping fool as it will remain the only ‘culture’ that has relevance in our consumer-driven society.

    To the powers that be, this is a feature not a bug.

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  101. @silviosilver

    All I know is…

    I’ll take Mexicans over blacks.

    If this country is gonna take in more blacks, any bunch of non-blacks will do just to serve as buffer against the ghastly Negroes.
     
    If blacks are stronger and more intimidating than whites, as you never fail to remind people, then surely they are stronger and more intimidating than Mexicans. So why do I so rarely hear stories of outrageous black violence against Mexicans as I do against whites? Do these incidents happen as regularly but the information doesn't reach me or is there something about Mexican behavior that makes blacks think twice?

    As for your buffer concept, that's definitely true. Latinos are a better choice than Asians, I believe. Even though they're dumber they are more likeable, and more importantly, they are more willing to openly stand up to black thuggery, whereas Asians take the more circumspect and duplicitous route of Jews. Some way to split their ranks between white-sympathizers and indio-sympathizers without being insulting to the latter (otherwise the former will side with them) will have to be found.

    “So why do I so rarely hear stories of outrageous black violence against Mexicans as I do against whites? Do these incidents happen as regularly but the information doesn’t reach me or is there something about Mexican behavior that makes blacks think twice?”

    Most black on “white” homicide victims counted in government statistics are actually hispanic.

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    Most black on “white” homicide victims counted in government statistics are actually hispanic.
     
    No, I think hispanics are only counted as white when they are perps, not when they're victims.
  102. @anonymous
    Cardozo's ancestors came from Portugal, not Spain, so I'm not sure he could be called Hispanic. Latin or Iberian would be accurate, though, I suppose.

    “Cardozo’s ancestors came from Portugal, not Spain, so I’m not sure he could be called Hispanic. Latin or Iberian would be accurate, though, I suppose.”

    How about Celt.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_nations#/media/File:Ethnographic_Iberia_200_BCE.PNG

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  103. OT: The NYT acknowledges IQ and the “Flynn effect”

    NYT, 03/19/15 – In the Age of Information, Specializing to Survive

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/20/education/in-the-age-of-information-specializing-to-survive.html

    …researcher James R. Flynn has found that I.Q. scores have been rising around the world for decades. Known as the “Flynn effect,” it is especially pronounced in developed nations such as the United States, where average scores have increased about three points per decade since the early 1900s….

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  104. @silviosilver

    doesn’t exactly look like all the races of Brazil blended together.
     
    They will eventually, because that's the long-term equilibrium that mixing moves towards. Brazil's only had a few hundred years at it, which should be adjusted down to account for the massive waves of European immigration at the start of the 20th century. A much better example of what long-term mixing leads to is India, which long ago wiped out all traces of white appearance in that land. There are some profound racial differences left, but the range of difference is much less than Brazil's.

    Considering how long ago dark-haired invaders conquered the Dravidians its a pretty big difference. The upper caste isn’t just lighter-skinned. They are taller. About 50% of marriages are arranged. There is a strong skepticism towards romantic love. And of course there is caste. Upper caste Indians behave in a way that westerners cannot comprehend because India is also a servant culture. It’s possible that a similar caste system will appear in the west in the not too distant future. Status-marking is picking up among elites. Factoring in the much greater genetic differences between groups in the west, a distinct european high caste could very well materialize.

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  105. @Steve Sailer
    I thought Lucy dyed her hair red?

    Hair dyeing technology improved irregularly over the course of the 20th Century. For awhile, red dyes were the best performers.

    Welp, there was only one way to find out if she was a natural redhead.

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  106. http://its-interesting.com/2015/03/19/baltimore-ravens-offensive-lineman-john-urschel-publishes-paper-in-math-journal/

    He doesn’t have kids yet, so cannot calculate Cromartie usefully (Wonderlic’s 48). I guess it’s on topic, since he’s kinda brown. Also sports is pretty much always on topic here.

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  107. Just read, in that execrable was of butt-fodder, The Economist magazine, of all places, that the number of ‘Hispsanics,’ in the USA increased from something around 3 million to 60 million in the last 65 years or so.

    Even in Texas, with its already huge Mexican population, the number of Hispanics increased by 43% from 2000-2010.

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  108. @Jefferson
    "Jefferson:

    “What are the odds of that?”

    Pretty high, since I have golden red hair and my wife is auburn haired."

    Does it make you sad that most gingers do not seek out other gingers to breed with? It certainly does not help increase the ginger population in the world when most gingers end up breeding with non gingers.

    Jefferson:

    Does it make you sad that most gingers do not seek out other gingers to breed with? It certainly does not help increase the ginger population in the world when most gingers end up breeding with non gingers.

    Yes, in a way. If we looked at human race the way we do animal races within species, Redheads would clearly be a seperate race of our own. Our hair is of course obviously different in its thickness and the length of time it retains its color (and it whitens more than it grays), we come with very pale white skin that burns instead of tanning, we get freckles, have different pain sensitivity, hotter tempers, passionate. We also have our own little home corner of the world where we are most relatively abundant (Scotland, Ireland, England, Norway, and of course our little isle in Russia of Udmurtia). Everything that people talk about to seperate say the black race from the white would similarly seperate the redheads from the rest of the whites.

    If America is going to be an aggrevied coalition of minorities in the future, than I am going to be of the redhead race.

    I never felt more at home than when I visited Ediburgh back in 1983 as a pre-teen. Suddenly all around me was a city full of redheads. Instead of being the only redhead walking down the street, or the only redhead in my small school, like I was in the United States, every third person I saw was a redhead like me.

    I married a redhead woman because I wanted my children to look like me. I can’t make any other redheads do that, but I can encourage my children to think that way and do.

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    I never felt more at home than when I visited Ediburgh back in 1983 as a pre-teen. Suddenly all around me was a city full of redheads. Instead of being the only redhead walking down the street, or the only redhead in my small school, like I was in the United States, every third person I saw was a redhead like me.
     
    Yeah, I'd believe that. I went to school in Australia in the 80s and I remember there being plenty of redheads. If I saw two redheads hanging out with each other these days I'd think it's a comedy act.

    Even more striking for me, though, is how blond the place used to be. When I see footage of a crowd at a sporting event from the 80s it's a sea of blonds. Today...not so much.

    That's why I was initially incredulous when reading accounts of who the label "white" included in America. When I arrived in America though it all quickly began to make sense.
  109. @iSteveFan

    They all have this much in common: they all want to be here and they are. No matter what their status back home all classes paricipate in the stampede to the US and seem to want us to bring in even more people like them.
     
    I still have trouble wrapping my mind around this. I know it is real, but I don't see how it came about. If you look at the New World over the past 2 centuries, it is clear the British part outperformed the Spanish/Portuguese part. Our population which was about a third of Latin America's at the time of our founding, grew to become larger by the turn of the 20th century. Economically, militarily, culturally, scientifically, the British part of the New World far eclipsed the Latin part.

    A neutral third party would probably have expected the British New World to have encroached upon Latin America a century ago, much like the American settlers into Texas were able to do in the 1830s.

    Yet today the opposite is happening. Latin America now has over 70 percent more people than British America. And they are threatening to turn us into a de facto part of Latin America. Despite America still being strong and militarily unchallenged in the world, we are the ones being changed, not them.

    There appears to be nothing in their culture that has changed over the past 60 years to produce a superior society in regards to technology, business, military, or cultural affairs. As Steve has often pointed out, Mexicans have produced a dearth of accomplishment in America despite their numbers. But numbers is the one area where they seemed to have excelled. And it is numbers, and numbers alone, which is causing this change in the balance of the New World cultures.

    But even with their population growth, they have no military might to enforce their will. And we are still the most powerful nation. It just doesn't make sense. There must be something in the water. I still can't really believe it is happening.

    As Steve has often pointed out, Mexicans have produced a dearth of accomplishment in America despite their numbers. But numbers is the one area where they seemed to have excelled. And it is numbers, and numbers alone, which is causing this change in the balance of the New World cultures.

    But even with their population growth, they have no military might to enforce their will.

    Of course, they do, at least to the extent their will is to enter the US. The US government uses its military to facilitate their invasion of the US.

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  110. @Bert
    William Frey is an AEI man who is practically giddy with joy over the coming death of white America. Obviously the idea of whites voting as a bloc disgusts him.

    Nunn would have lost by a wider margin had her opponent not been so pathetic.

    Nunn would have lost by a wider margin had her opponent not been so pathetic.

    Yeah. Upper management at four different companies (including stints as CEO), 42 years of marriage, children, grandchildren, and degrees in engineering and operations research. Such pathos.

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  111. @anonymous
    No Yesh Atid retained its voters from the last election; it was the other right wing parties (chiefly Bayit Yehudi, whose number of seats dropped sharply) that lost their voters to Likud. There is no difference between Yesh Atid and Labor (aka "Zionist Camp" [sic]) on security issues. And there is not really any difference anymore on security issues between either Labor or Yesh Atid and Meretz.

    No Yesh Atid retained its voters from the last election; it was the other right wing parties (chiefly Bayit Yehudi, whose number of seats dropped sharply) that lost their voters to Likud.

    Yesh Atid lost 40% of its seats. It’s a reasonable wager that Yesh Atid will follow the same trajectory of other novelty parties derived from inchoate public exasperation (recall Dash and Kadima). Coming up on their tail is Kulanu, which has more affinity for Likud.

    The Jewish Home lost about a third of theirs. The black hat parties lost about 15%. Over two elections, Yisrael Beitanu has lost about 60% of their support.

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    Yesh Atid may have fooled some right of center voters into voting for it last time, but this time those voters weren't fooled and went back to Likud. Presumably, Yesh Atid lost other voters to "Zionist Camp" and Meretz. In any event, Yesh Atid is on the left of the right/left divide on security issues in Israeli politics. Lapid joined the rest of the left in castigating Netanyahu for spoiling Israel's beautiful friendship with Obama even before he left the coalition. Yesh Atid are not going to be in Bibi's new coalition.
  112. @anonymous
    Israel's permanent rulers are its leftist elite, in the bureaucracy, the highest ranks of the security services, the courts, the large corporations and law firms, academia and the media. All of these are dominated by the left in Israel, and always have been. An elected government of the right must constantly fight this permanent ruling class, and does not always prevail (see e.g. the recent Supreme Court ruling against detention of African vagrants who have no legal right to be in Israel and, for another example, the bureaucracy's successful pulling of the plug on Israel's development of its offshore natural gas resources on some sort of bogus anti-trust pretext). In the election campaign just ended, recently retired high-ranking figures from the security services (the military, the Mossad, the police) vocally supported Herzog.

    e.g. the recent Supreme Court ruling against detention of African vagrants who have no legal right to be in Israel

    Israel has a body of constitutional law but no Constitution per se. Acts of parliament can over-rule rogue court decisions.

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    It's true that Israel does not have a written constitution, but it has a "basic law" that empowers (or is interpreted by the Supreme Court to empower) the Supreme Court to overrule the Knesset anytime it believes that the government has transgressed amorphous standards of "justice" and "human dignity," i.e., whenever the Supreme Court really feels like it. For example, a few years back, the Supreme Court demanded that the government change the route of the security fence inside the "green line" dividing Israel proper from the West Bank. They thought the fence as originally built was too inconvenient for the Palestinians. In the case of the African vagrants, the Supreme Court said that holding the illegals in detention until they could be sent out of the country was an intolerable infringement on their "human dignity."

    While the Knesset theoretically could amend the law to restrict the Supreme Court's jurisdiction to hear cases, this is very difficult to do, given that the Knesset is a multi-party body. For example, although Likud seems set to form the next government, at least one party it needs for a majority (Kulanu, this year's bright new "change" thing) would not go along with restricting Supreme Court jurisdiction.

  113. @Andrew
    Bah! What is wrong with you people?

    ... There is only one solution to this problem and it is actually so simple.

    Marry another white person and have lots of children. I already have five myself. Beautfiul redheads.

    Stop being afraid of having a large white family. This is how my and your ancestors won this land to begin with - having 5, 8, 10 children in a family.

    The world, and America, need more white children. Stop making excuses about how you can't afford it. You can't afford NOT to.

    Nice idea. But it’s not that simple.

    If you know of a website (or meatspace methodology) that allows us to find women of similar mind, please tell!

    Don’t say ” go to church”. Most of them are leftists by default due to being raised in public schools.

    Before Japan, I was dating a redhead who wanted lots of kids, but she was a gun control nut vegetarian public school teacher who I didn’t think had the capacity for a lifetime commitment.

    That’s the reality we are facing.

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    Chrisnonymous:

    If you know of a website (or meatspace methodology) that allows us to find women of similar mind, please tell! Don’t say ” go to church”. Most of them are leftists by default due to being raised in public schools.

    I met my wife at the National Right to Life Committe dinner at the Waldorf Astoria in the pre-website era of the mid-1990's. We were introduced by a mutual friend who was actually trying to set her up with someone else that night (it didn't work out for him - I monopolized her time). It wasn't anything I was intending - he kind of did it on the sly. The setting meant we had political and moral compatibility.

    Church, as in Church services isn't an ideal place in my mind - you are supposed to be there to pray, and I would never consider at a Protestant church since they don't believe in the indissolubility of marriage (I am a Catholic) and don't believe in mixed marriages. I think when people tell you that, they mean at auxilliary functions of the Church. I never found that worked.

    I'd suggest finding someone through an activity you like that she is also involved in. Maybe its running triathlons. Maybe its a book club. Maybe its working on a political campaign. Maybe its watching baseball games. It will mean you have something in common.

    I only ever met one worthwhile woman in a bar - she was a teacher in Chicago and we met eating dinner at the bar late one night.

    My "methodology" to have met my wife to was to pray to the Archangel Raphael every day to send the right woman my way. You can read about him in the Book of Tobit in the Catholic Bible. You may make of that what you will. It only took me 7 months for the right woman to come along. I'm not ashamed to tell you that is what I did. I didn't consciously try doing anything other than that. I just kept my eyes open and didn't waste my time with more than a single night out with someone I didn't like. Either you are attracted immediately to someone or you aren't. After my wife and I met, we emailed back and forth a few times. On our first date we were intending to meet before lunch and spend a couple hours together (several weeks after we had met at the dinner). Instead we ended up spending 16 hours together that day and I didn't get her home until after 1am. My wife tells me I drove her crazy thinking about me after we first met and before the first date because I gave her the impression I was interested in someone else and she wanted to change my mind on that. I was determined to marry her after the first date.

    One other thing for you - exude confidence and lead your woman, consult with her but then make the decisions for both of you. A good woman will follow you and accept your lead, and will quickly end up turning to you for advice on everything (before you came along, she was doing this with her father - its a real honor when they start asking you questions about everything instead of him). A woman who rebels at you just being a natural man or who doesn't want you leading her is going to be a marriage disaster.

    Before Japan, I was dating a redhead who wanted lots of kids, but she was a gun control nut vegetarian public school teacher who I didn’t think had the capacity for a lifetime commitment.

    My 2 cents on that. You'll never find a woman who is "perfect". You do need to find one who is more than good enough for you to be happy. I could live with a vegetarian if she would cook me bacon and steak, and I could live with a gun control nut if she didn't stop me from doing as I wanted if I liked hunting or carrying or target shooting. My woman could eat grilled mushrooms as long as I can have a sirloin, and I don't need her to pack heat. A public school teacher is a good find because she has summers and afternoons off to be with children and gets good benefits and probably likes children. Capability and willingness for lifetime commitment is of course the single most critical thing. You are just wasting your time without that and its a deal breaker to have any woman say she would ever consider divorce or to think it is socially acceptable for anyone to divorce (I'd be willing to make an exception for physical assault). Acceptance of divorce and remarriage is even worse.

    Just me, but traits I looked for in a woman were intelligence, beauty (even more a pretty and youthful looking mother - its what you will see in 30 years), Catholic religion, honesty, patient and kind, good handling her own money and not in massive debt especially credit card debt, comes from an intact normal family, athletic and fit, pure, generous in bed (in the future, beause I was looking for a partner number of zero unless I was marrying a widow), rejects abortion (any woman willing to kill her and your own kid is a monster). A woman can learn to cook, and over time she will meld many of her opinions to conform to those of the man she loves. Most women I've known have had some goofy ideas like the lady you mention, and my woman was no exception. Either they outgrow them or you learn to think its part of what makes them cute.
  114. @syonredux

    Look at Israel. As Steve wrote a few posts back the conventional wisdom at the end of the 2oth Century was that the Jewish State was demographically doomed. Now just a short time later the projections have changed. They are not exactly out of the woods. Things could change again for the worse. But at least they recognize what is at stake and took appropriate action.
     
    Sadly, we cannot look to Israel.The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel.The White American elite, in contrast, is committed to mass immigration/open borders.

    “Sadly, we cannot look to Israel.The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel.The White American elite, in contrast, is committed to mass immigration/open borders.”

    Our elites may simply have to be removed, and replaced with a more suitable cadre.

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  115. “Marry another white person and have lots of children. I already have five myself. Beautfiul redheads.

    Stop being afraid of having a large white family. This is how my and your ancestors won this land to begin with – having 5, 8, 10 children in a family.

    The world, and America, need more white children. Stop making excuses about how you can’t afford it. You can’t afford NOT to.”

    Problem is Andrew, I’m a secular conservative. You find me a sweet white woman who will have 8 kids and is not a complete Bible thumper, please send her my way.

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    Problem is Andrew, I’m a secular conservative. You find me a sweet white woman who will have 8 kids and is not a complete Bible thumper, please send her my way.
     
    Texas is full of them. Louisiana and Oklahoma too.
  116. @CMPX
    "So why do I so rarely hear stories of outrageous black violence against Mexicans as I do against whites? Do these incidents happen as regularly but the information doesn’t reach me or is there something about Mexican behavior that makes blacks think twice?"

    Most black on "white" homicide victims counted in government statistics are actually hispanic.

    Most black on “white” homicide victims counted in government statistics are actually hispanic.

    No, I think hispanics are only counted as white when they are perps, not when they’re victims.

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    "No, I think hispanics are only counted as white when they are perps, not when they’re victims."

    They are counted as either perps or victims (or both), depending on the dataset. In the datasets where homicide victims are coded as either hispanic or non-hispanic, most of the "white" victims of black perps will be hispanic.
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    @Art Deco
    e.g. the recent Supreme Court ruling against detention of African vagrants who have no legal right to be in Israel

    --

    Israel has a body of constitutional law but no Constitution per se. Acts of parliament can over-rule rogue court decisions.

    It’s true that Israel does not have a written constitution, but it has a “basic law” that empowers (or is interpreted by the Supreme Court to empower) the Supreme Court to overrule the Knesset anytime it believes that the government has transgressed amorphous standards of “justice” and “human dignity,” i.e., whenever the Supreme Court really feels like it. For example, a few years back, the Supreme Court demanded that the government change the route of the security fence inside the “green line” dividing Israel proper from the West Bank. They thought the fence as originally built was too inconvenient for the Palestinians. In the case of the African vagrants, the Supreme Court said that holding the illegals in detention until they could be sent out of the country was an intolerable infringement on their “human dignity.”

    While the Knesset theoretically could amend the law to restrict the Supreme Court’s jurisdiction to hear cases, this is very difficult to do, given that the Knesset is a multi-party body. For example, although Likud seems set to form the next government, at least one party it needs for a majority (Kulanu, this year’s bright new “change” thing) would not go along with restricting Supreme Court jurisdiction.

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    @Art Deco
    No Yesh Atid retained its voters from the last election; it was the other right wing parties (chiefly Bayit Yehudi, whose number of seats dropped sharply) that lost their voters to Likud.

    Yesh Atid lost 40% of its seats. It's a reasonable wager that Yesh Atid will follow the same trajectory of other novelty parties derived from inchoate public exasperation (recall Dash and Kadima). Coming up on their tail is Kulanu, which has more affinity for Likud.

    The Jewish Home lost about a third of theirs. The black hat parties lost about 15%. Over two elections, Yisrael Beitanu has lost about 60% of their support.

    Yesh Atid may have fooled some right of center voters into voting for it last time, but this time those voters weren’t fooled and went back to Likud. Presumably, Yesh Atid lost other voters to “Zionist Camp” and Meretz. In any event, Yesh Atid is on the left of the right/left divide on security issues in Israeli politics. Lapid joined the rest of the left in castigating Netanyahu for spoiling Israel’s beautiful friendship with Obama even before he left the coalition. Yesh Atid are not going to be in Bibi’s new coalition.

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    In any event, Yesh Atid is on the left of the right/left divide on security issues in Israeli politics.
     
    In truth, there is no Israeli left on security/Palestinians. There is only a right (no state, continued settlements, no return of refugees) and a centre (pre-67 state minus settlements and minus east Jerusalem, refugees to new state only).

    A real left would promote: Palestinian state on pre-67 territory, dismantling settlements, return of east Jerusalem, return of refugees to to Israel, compensation for damages to Palestinians, and binational state within Israel.
  119. @Andrew
    Jefferson:

    Does it make you sad that most gingers do not seek out other gingers to breed with? It certainly does not help increase the ginger population in the world when most gingers end up breeding with non gingers.

    Yes, in a way. If we looked at human race the way we do animal races within species, Redheads would clearly be a seperate race of our own. Our hair is of course obviously different in its thickness and the length of time it retains its color (and it whitens more than it grays), we come with very pale white skin that burns instead of tanning, we get freckles, have different pain sensitivity, hotter tempers, passionate. We also have our own little home corner of the world where we are most relatively abundant (Scotland, Ireland, England, Norway, and of course our little isle in Russia of Udmurtia). Everything that people talk about to seperate say the black race from the white would similarly seperate the redheads from the rest of the whites.

    If America is going to be an aggrevied coalition of minorities in the future, than I am going to be of the redhead race.

    I never felt more at home than when I visited Ediburgh back in 1983 as a pre-teen. Suddenly all around me was a city full of redheads. Instead of being the only redhead walking down the street, or the only redhead in my small school, like I was in the United States, every third person I saw was a redhead like me.

    I married a redhead woman because I wanted my children to look like me. I can't make any other redheads do that, but I can encourage my children to think that way and do.

    I never felt more at home than when I visited Ediburgh back in 1983 as a pre-teen. Suddenly all around me was a city full of redheads. Instead of being the only redhead walking down the street, or the only redhead in my small school, like I was in the United States, every third person I saw was a redhead like me.

    Yeah, I’d believe that. I went to school in Australia in the 80s and I remember there being plenty of redheads. If I saw two redheads hanging out with each other these days I’d think it’s a comedy act.

    Even more striking for me, though, is how blond the place used to be. When I see footage of a crowd at a sporting event from the 80s it’s a sea of blonds. Today…not so much.

    That’s why I was initially incredulous when reading accounts of who the label “white” included in America. When I arrived in America though it all quickly began to make sense.

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  120. As Steve said recently, electing a new people is subject to increasing marginal returns. It’s very difficult to see a way out of this mess.

    In principle, there are a number of perfectly reasonable measures that could be taken tomorrow that would halt or even reverse the demographic trends, but our ruling class won’t take those measures, so it’s a moot point. The only hope is a National Conservative revolution within the GOP, which seems very unlikely.

    What will probably happen is that the demographic situation will become less and less favorable with each passing year, the country will become more and more divided and deracinated, and the nation-proper will lose more and more territory to post-America. To the degree that people assimilate, it will be to a crass common culture and a conveniently vague ideology that means whatever the ruling class wants it to mean.

    Eventually, one of three things must happen in America (and the same goes for European countries):

    (1) We get Habsburg America, with an arrogant and powerful elite ruling over an uneasy and squalid collection of subject peoples. Something like this already exists in major urban centers. In the absence of a catastrophe (like WWI for Austria-Hungary), this condition might continue indefinitely.

    (2) There is a catastrophic political crisis, precipitating a general revolt of working- and middle-class white Americans (and their allies) against the hi-low coalition. Things get very ugly. Poltical, economic, and demographic grievances are addressed the old-fashioned way: extrajudicially. A lot of eggs will get broken, and not all of them will deserve it. Moreover, there may not actually be an omelet when all is said and done in this revolutionary environment.

    (3) The state as we know it breaks up (ideally by a constitutional convention introducing radical devolution), and the multiple American tribes consolidate on their own territories, subject to their own self-determination. No more mass immigration; no more forced integration, affirmative action, or disparate impact doctrine; no more ethnomasochism pushed through the schools and the culture; no more racial socialism or subsidies for foreigners to colonize the US with their reproduction–not in what’s left of the old nation, anyway.

    Of the above possibilities, #1 is depressing and #2 is terrifying.

    That leaves #3. It seems fantastical, but what other option is there? And if it’s necessary, then the sooner, the better. There’s a lot of real estate, some of it very nice, that traditional America stands to lose in the coming years. Surely it’s time to say, “So far and no further.”

    In the short run, Red America (to use a very imprecise shorthand) will be poorer, since the greatest economic engines of the country are already under a hi-low blue-state (or -city) regime (see above). So Blue America will be initially richer, and because minorities will be incentivized to move there from Red America (or abroad), it will be more vibrant too. This is something Blue America likes, or–more to the point–loudly professes to like.

    Overall, the American Empire gets to do its thing. The proletariat gets browner, and the elites get richer (in the short run). Meanwhile, the American Republic also gets to be master of its own house. Sounds like the makings of a deal to me.

    In general, our side needs to start gaming various possibilities going forward and evaluating their material and moral implications. Hand-waving about Citizenism no longer suffices to deal with a fundamentally altered society, while simple despair is a pointless non-starter.

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  121. @FWIW
    People weren't too keen about populating fly over country with Eastern Europeans in the 19th Century. And also the Irish. Not very popular at the time. Italians? Barely white.

    What has changed is that it is no longer popular to assimilate as quickly as possible.

    Anyone that wants to act white is ok with me.

    Our white ancestors of century ago would throw up at people we consider solid white citizens now. Mormons?

    And, assimilation is more popular than it appears, still. What would really turn things around is to make it cool.

    Amen.

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  122. @anonymous
    Yesh Atid may have fooled some right of center voters into voting for it last time, but this time those voters weren't fooled and went back to Likud. Presumably, Yesh Atid lost other voters to "Zionist Camp" and Meretz. In any event, Yesh Atid is on the left of the right/left divide on security issues in Israeli politics. Lapid joined the rest of the left in castigating Netanyahu for spoiling Israel's beautiful friendship with Obama even before he left the coalition. Yesh Atid are not going to be in Bibi's new coalition.

    In any event, Yesh Atid is on the left of the right/left divide on security issues in Israeli politics.

    In truth, there is no Israeli left on security/Palestinians. There is only a right (no state, continued settlements, no return of refugees) and a centre (pre-67 state minus settlements and minus east Jerusalem, refugees to new state only).

    A real left would promote: Palestinian state on pre-67 territory, dismantling settlements, return of east Jerusalem, return of refugees to to Israel, compensation for damages to Palestinians, and binational state within Israel.

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    The "left" position you're describing is suicide for Israeli Jews. Actually, there are those on the Israeli Jewish left who support those positions. Also, even Netanyahu, in the last round of negotiations he was forced to go through, offered the Palestinians part of East Jerusalem. Also, many of the settlements in the interior of the West Bank would be uprooted in any settlement. And the Labor position on the Old City of Jerusalem is to give it all back except for the plaza in front of the Western Wall and (maybe) the old Jewish Quarter (from which Jews were ethnically cleansed in 1948).

    I'm not sure what you mean by "Palestinian state on pre-67 territory" other than complete disestablishment of Israel and replacement by a majority Arab state, which would soon be Judenfrei.

    Why Israel should be considered morally obligated to bestow statehood on the Palestinians when the Palestinians have no intention of living in peace with Israel, even if truncated to the pre-67 borders, is not clear to me. Nor is it clear to me why such a Palestinian state (which would soon be taken over by Hamas or ISIS) would be in the interests of the United States.

    Sorry, I don't see why Israeli Jews are obligated to apologize for their existence to the rest of the world. But I do see why that is the leftist position: the left is the ideology of Western suicide.

    In any event, whether you see the divide in Israel as Left/Right or Center/Right, Yesh Atid and its game-show host leader, Lapid, are not on the "Right" side of the divide.
  123. @anonymous

    But even with their population growth, they have no military might to enforce their will. And we are still the most powerful nation. It just doesn’t make sense. There must be something in the water. I still can’t really believe it is happening.
     
    We're outwardly strong but increasingly weak inwardly. We are divided against ourselves and can no longer muster the resolve to do anything about it barring Civil War II. We were watching the front door whist leaving the back door open. Meanwhile facts on the ground continue to trend in the same direction. The elites can ride herd on the masses which is what they're banking on but ultimately in the long run demographics is destiny.

    We were watching the front door whist leaving the back door open.

    I think we’re watching the neighbor’s house whilst leaving both our front and back doors open.

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  124. @Jefferson
    "Sadly, we cannot look to Israel.The Israeli Jewish elite are committed to Jewish supremacy in Israel.The White American elite, in contrast, is committed to mass immigration/open borders."

    To most rich White Americans who belong to the 1 percent, greed trumps racial tribalism. Green trumps White.
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  125. @Priss Factor
    One thing that can be done is to divide Hispanics into 'white' and 'non-white'.

    That way, whites(non-Hispanic and Hispanic) could remain the majority for much longer.

    There are very few true Hispanic whites since most Hispanics have non-white ancestry. Pretending someone is white doesn’t make them so.

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  126. @syonredux

    One thing that can be done is to divide Hispanics into ‘white’ and ‘non-white’.

    That way, whites(non-Hispanic and Hispanic) could remain the majority for much longer.
     
    An even better method would involve scrapping the "Hispanic" category altogether.Just have people list themselves as Caucasoid, Black, Amerind, East Asian, etc.

    But most Hispanics are racially mixed so they would not fit into just one category.

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  127. @Priss Factor
    All I know is...

    I'll take Mexicans over blacks.

    If this country is gonna take in more blacks, any bunch of non-blacks will do just to serve as buffer against the ghastly Negroes.

    This is like saying that if you had a choice between cutting off one of your legs or both of your legs, you would choose to cut off one leg. Yes, cutting off one leg is better than cutting off two but cutting off neither of your legs is best.

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  128. @Mike Sylwester

    In Georgia last fall, Democrat Michelle Nunn, an impressive candidate and the daughter of a long-beloved U.S. senator, lost after getting only 23% of the white vote.
     
    An attainable goal for the Republican Party to aim for in the 2016 election would be about 2/3 of the White vote.

    Perhaps the ultimate maximum for the Republican Party will be about 3/4 of the White vote.

    Why? Who exactly do republicans represent anyway … they try to represent negros but democrats keep raising their bid of other people’s money.

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  129. Mathematically, 3 million to 60 million in 65 years is growth of 4.75% a year. Not that impressive.

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    The maximum rate of population growth that a fertile and libidinous human population using absolutely no contraception whatsoever and with little infectious disease destroying newborns, and actually displaying a devil-may-care pro natalist policy, is around 3.5% per annum.
    This is copulation and impregnation max ie a population which is basically taking the possible limits of human fertility right to the furthest extent possible.
    In that context, a growth rate of 4.5% per annum, albeit supplemented by mass immigration, is simply, in human terms, hyper fertile.
  130. @silviosilver

    doesn’t exactly look like all the races of Brazil blended together.
     
    They will eventually, because that's the long-term equilibrium that mixing moves towards. Brazil's only had a few hundred years at it, which should be adjusted down to account for the massive waves of European immigration at the start of the 20th century. A much better example of what long-term mixing leads to is India, which long ago wiped out all traces of white appearance in that land. There are some profound racial differences left, but the range of difference is much less than Brazil's.

    One of the finest pronouncements ever made on Brazilian ethnic identity, and one that could be extended to all societies that have diverse intermixed populations was penned by Euclides da Cunha in his book Os Sertões (1902).* I think it is relevant to America as well, more so with each passing day.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Os_Sert%C3%B5es

    “…The Brazilian, as an abstract type that we seek to define, can only be viewed as a human type in progress, the result of an extraordinarily complex mixing of races. In theory he would be the light-brown-skinned type, the product of successive crossings of the mulatto, the curiboca, and the cafuzo. However, it is unrealistic, if not absurd, to insist on the reality of such a type. The history of each region of Brazil varies greatly, as does the climate. The different racial types react differently to each of these factors. The rates of miscegenation also vary greatly by region. In colonial times racial mixing occurred because of armed invasions. From that time to the present day it has also been the result of the arrival of new populations. It is a process that has never been consistent…

    …In summary, the many opinions expressed on this subject have been diverse and of dubious validity.

    We believe that the confusion is due to the focus of these studies on a single ethnic type, when in fact there are many. We do not have a unified race. We may never have one. We are predestined to create a historic race, providing that our nation remains autonomous long enough to produce it. In this regard we are inverting the natural order: Our biological evolution depends on social process.

    We are condemned to civilization. Either we progress or we become extinct. That much is certain.

    It is not just the heterogeneity of our ancestral heritage that suggests this. Other equally important conditions reinforce it— the vast and diverse physical environment of our country combined with a continuous flux of historical situations, which are in large part shaped by the environment. This is a subject we must briefly consider…”

    (pg. 60-62, Penguin Classics edition)

    *I read this book in translation a few years back, and it truly is fantastic and perfect material for iSteve. It covers race, culture, geography, religion, politics, and military strategy and wraps it all up in a gripping narrative about progressive liberal modernism vs traditional religious peasant society in an all-out war that killed tens of thousands before it ended. One of the best books to ever come out of Brazilian literature, and one that has a place in the World literary canon as well.

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    One of the finest pronouncements ever made on Brazilian ethnic identity, and one that could be extended to all societies that have diverse intermixed populations was penned by Euclides da Cunha in his book Os Sertões (1902).
     
    I disagree that it's a particularly fine pronouncement. In fact, I find it rather banal - at bottom, something a 10 year-old could whip up without any great exertion.

    Racial thinkers of da Cunha's ilk love to congratulate themselves for (what they imagine is) their keen foresight, but in reality mixing would have continued on its merry way whether da Cunha had anything to say about it or not. The same goes for every other anti-racist rock star theorist.

    Mixing is easy; it's preservation that is difficult. Even societies that go as far as outlawing mixing have not been able to prevent it. The main thing outlawing it accomplishes is to slow down the rate of mixing. But so what? In the long run what matters is that mixing took place, not that the rate at which it occurred.

    As far as I'm concerned mixing - particularly mixing with blacks (of whom there will be some 3-4 billion by century's end) - is going to irretrievably ruin everything I think is worth living for, and if I'm powerless to prevent it than at least I can have a right old laugh at anti-racists' expense. So I say: observe, anti-racist ninny, as I urinate all over your sensibilities.
  131. @Corn
    "Marry another white person and have lots of children. I already have five myself. Beautfiul redheads.

    Stop being afraid of having a large white family. This is how my and your ancestors won this land to begin with – having 5, 8, 10 children in a family.

    The world, and America, need more white children. Stop making excuses about how you can’t afford it. You can’t afford NOT to."

    Problem is Andrew, I'm a secular conservative. You find me a sweet white woman who will have 8 kids and is not a complete Bible thumper, please send her my way.

    Problem is Andrew, I’m a secular conservative. You find me a sweet white woman who will have 8 kids and is not a complete Bible thumper, please send her my way.

    Texas is full of them. Louisiana and Oklahoma too.

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  132. @silviosilver

    Most black on “white” homicide victims counted in government statistics are actually hispanic.
     
    No, I think hispanics are only counted as white when they are perps, not when they're victims.

    “No, I think hispanics are only counted as white when they are perps, not when they’re victims.”

    They are counted as either perps or victims (or both), depending on the dataset. In the datasets where homicide victims are coded as either hispanic or non-hispanic, most of the “white” victims of black perps will be hispanic.

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    They are counted as either perps or victims (or both), depending on the dataset. In the datasets where homicide victims are coded as either hispanic or non-hispanic, most of the “white” victims of black perps will be hispanic.
     
    Do you have any examples of this you could link to?
  133. @Hapalong Cassidy
    Marco Rubio wants to eliminate income tax on capital gains, dividends, and interest. The Republicans think they've brainwashed their white, working class voters into thinking that all tax cuts are good, so they'll go along with it. And they're probably right.

    In my CPA days I once saw a return with $100 million in income, all of it from capital gains and dividends. He owed $15 million in taxes. Had that income been ordinary (like wages) instead of capital, he would have owed $35 million. Under Rubio's plan, he would have owed zero. Also owing zero would be a member of the lucky sperm club who doesn't work and gets all of his income from dividends and capital gains flowing through from a trust set up by his parents (and I've seen returns like that as well). I'm all for a flatter, less progressive tax structure. But on what planet is Rubio's plan fair or sane? Seems to me the end result would be the creation of an Aristocratic class the likes of which the world has never seen.

    Seems to me the end result would be the creation of an Aristocratic class the likes of which the world has never seen.

    Does the name, “Boris Yelstin” ring a bell? The term “oligarch”?

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  134. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @silviosilver

    In any event, Yesh Atid is on the left of the right/left divide on security issues in Israeli politics.
     
    In truth, there is no Israeli left on security/Palestinians. There is only a right (no state, continued settlements, no return of refugees) and a centre (pre-67 state minus settlements and minus east Jerusalem, refugees to new state only).

    A real left would promote: Palestinian state on pre-67 territory, dismantling settlements, return of east Jerusalem, return of refugees to to Israel, compensation for damages to Palestinians, and binational state within Israel.

    The “left” position you’re describing is suicide for Israeli Jews. Actually, there are those on the Israeli Jewish left who support those positions. Also, even Netanyahu, in the last round of negotiations he was forced to go through, offered the Palestinians part of East Jerusalem. Also, many of the settlements in the interior of the West Bank would be uprooted in any settlement. And the Labor position on the Old City of Jerusalem is to give it all back except for the plaza in front of the Western Wall and (maybe) the old Jewish Quarter (from which Jews were ethnically cleansed in 1948).

    I’m not sure what you mean by “Palestinian state on pre-67 territory” other than complete disestablishment of Israel and replacement by a majority Arab state, which would soon be Judenfrei.

    Why Israel should be considered morally obligated to bestow statehood on the Palestinians when the Palestinians have no intention of living in peace with Israel, even if truncated to the pre-67 borders, is not clear to me. Nor is it clear to me why such a Palestinian state (which would soon be taken over by Hamas or ISIS) would be in the interests of the United States.

    Sorry, I don’t see why Israeli Jews are obligated to apologize for their existence to the rest of the world. But I do see why that is the leftist position: the left is the ideology of Western suicide.

    In any event, whether you see the divide in Israel as Left/Right or Center/Right, Yesh Atid and its game-show host leader, Lapid, are not on the “Right” side of the divide.

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    Why Israel should be considered morally obligated to bestow statehood on the Palestinians when the Palestinians have no intention of living in peace with Israel, even if truncated to the pre-67 borders, is not clear to me.
     
    This is the usual zionist inversion of reality. The truth is the zionist track record demonstrates quite unambiguously that it has no intention of making peace with Palestinians.

    As for why Israel is morally obligated to recognize Palestinian statehood, nothing could be clearer: Palestinians don't owe you anything; you owe them.

    Nor is it clear to me why such a Palestinian state (which would soon be taken over by Hamas or ISIS) would be in the interests of the United States.
     
    A Palestinian state run by Hamas, as undesirable as that is, would be much less of a problem to the United States than a Zionist state run by Likud.
  135. @Chrisnonymous
    Nice idea. But it's not that simple.

    If you know of a website (or meatspace methodology) that allows us to find women of similar mind, please tell!

    Don't say " go to church". Most of them are leftists by default due to being raised in public schools.

    Before Japan, I was dating a redhead who wanted lots of kids, but she was a gun control nut vegetarian public school teacher who I didn't think had the capacity for a lifetime commitment.

    That's the reality we are facing.

    Chrisnonymous:

    If you know of a website (or meatspace methodology) that allows us to find women of similar mind, please tell! Don’t say ” go to church”. Most of them are leftists by default due to being raised in public schools.

    I met my wife at the National Right to Life Committe dinner at the Waldorf Astoria in the pre-website era of the mid-1990′s. We were introduced by a mutual friend who was actually trying to set her up with someone else that night (it didn’t work out for him – I monopolized her time). It wasn’t anything I was intending – he kind of did it on the sly. The setting meant we had political and moral compatibility.

    Church, as in Church services isn’t an ideal place in my mind – you are supposed to be there to pray, and I would never consider at a Protestant church since they don’t believe in the indissolubility of marriage (I am a Catholic) and don’t believe in mixed marriages. I think when people tell you that, they mean at auxilliary functions of the Church. I never found that worked.

    I’d suggest finding someone through an activity you like that she is also involved in. Maybe its running triathlons. Maybe its a book club. Maybe its working on a political campaign. Maybe its watching baseball games. It will mean you have something in common.

    I only ever met one worthwhile woman in a bar – she was a teacher in Chicago and we met eating dinner at the bar late one night.

    My “methodology” to have met my wife to was to pray to the Archangel Raphael every day to send the right woman my way. You can read about him in the Book of Tobit in the Catholic Bible. You may make of that what you will. It only took me 7 months for the right woman to come along. I’m not ashamed to tell you that is what I did. I didn’t consciously try doing anything other than that. I just kept my eyes open and didn’t waste my time with more than a single night out with someone I didn’t like. Either you are attracted immediately to someone or you aren’t. After my wife and I met, we emailed back and forth a few times. On our first date we were intending to meet before lunch and spend a couple hours together (several weeks after we had met at the dinner). Instead we ended up spending 16 hours together that day and I didn’t get her home until after 1am. My wife tells me I drove her crazy thinking about me after we first met and before the first date because I gave her the impression I was interested in someone else and she wanted to change my mind on that. I was determined to marry her after the first date.

    One other thing for you – exude confidence and lead your woman, consult with her but then make the decisions for both of you. A good woman will follow you and accept your lead, and will quickly end up turning to you for advice on everything (before you came along, she was doing this with her father – its a real honor when they start asking you questions about everything instead of him). A woman who rebels at you just being a natural man or who doesn’t want you leading her is going to be a marriage disaster.

    Before Japan, I was dating a redhead who wanted lots of kids, but she was a gun control nut vegetarian public school teacher who I didn’t think had the capacity for a lifetime commitment.

    My 2 cents on that. You’ll never find a woman who is “perfect”. You do need to find one who is more than good enough for you to be happy. I could live with a vegetarian if she would cook me bacon and steak, and I could live with a gun control nut if she didn’t stop me from doing as I wanted if I liked hunting or carrying or target shooting. My woman could eat grilled mushrooms as long as I can have a sirloin, and I don’t need her to pack heat. A public school teacher is a good find because she has summers and afternoons off to be with children and gets good benefits and probably likes children. Capability and willingness for lifetime commitment is of course the single most critical thing. You are just wasting your time without that and its a deal breaker to have any woman say she would ever consider divorce or to think it is socially acceptable for anyone to divorce (I’d be willing to make an exception for physical assault). Acceptance of divorce and remarriage is even worse.

    Just me, but traits I looked for in a woman were intelligence, beauty (even more a pretty and youthful looking mother – its what you will see in 30 years), Catholic religion, honesty, patient and kind, good handling her own money and not in massive debt especially credit card debt, comes from an intact normal family, athletic and fit, pure, generous in bed (in the future, beause I was looking for a partner number of zero unless I was marrying a widow), rejects abortion (any woman willing to kill her and your own kid is a monster). A woman can learn to cook, and over time she will meld many of her opinions to conform to those of the man she loves. Most women I’ve known have had some goofy ideas like the lady you mention, and my woman was no exception. Either they outgrow them or you learn to think its part of what makes them cute.

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  136. @Priss Factor
    "Bad, bad stuff.
    And yet, I know there is nothing I can do."

    Too many Mexicans is not good.

    Too many blacks is terrible.

    Even more blacks is horrible.

    If immigration is so good, why not encourage non-whites to immigrate to Africa which is huge and is open to all sorts of opportunities.

    Isn't it 'racist' to say that America should be favored as a destination for immigrants on the assumption that whites rule and manage societies better?

    No! Africans run their own nations with equal degree of Rule of Law.

    Go there!!!

    PS. During the 30s and 40s, did Jews every try from Germany and German-controlled areas to Africa?
    Couldn't white imperialists and African natives have welcomed Jewish talents?

    During the 30s and 40s, did Jews ever try [to go] from Germany and German-controlled areas to Africa?
    There was a plan for Jews to resettle in the Dominican Republic, but it didn’t work out.

    In March 1938, U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt convened a 32-nation conference at Evian-les-Bains, France, to discuss the resettlement of German and Austrian Jewish refugees to other lands. At that time, the Nazi regime was still agreeing to let Jews emigrate if they transferred their assets to the German government. The assembled nations endorsed the idea of resettlement but agreed that no nation would “be expected or asked to receive a greater number of emigrants than is permitted by existing legislation.” Given the immigration restrictionist and anti-Semitic moods of the Depression era, this meant that, in effect, no nation – even the United States – was expected to take more than a few thousand refugees. Only the Dominican Republic, led by dictator Rafael Trujillo, expressed a willingness to accept a significant number – between 50,000 and 100,000 Jews – an offer to which the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee jumped. . . . Despite the promise of escaping Europe, only 50 Jews were able to make their way to the Dominican Republic in the first year of the program. Submarine warfare in the Atlantic and the need to use Allied ships for troops and supplies made it incredibly hard to relocate refugees.

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/sosua.html

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  137. @Priss Factor
    If diversity is good, why is race-mixing also good when it mongrelizes the races into one?
    And if races get mixed, won't cultural identities suffer since it gets pretty confusing to maintain an identity that is, say, 1/8 German, 1/8 Chinese, 1/8 Turkish, 1/8 Mexican, 1/8 Italian, 1/8 Jewish, 1/8 black, and 1/8 Hindu. With so many identities, one is likely to be just some generic pop-culture worshiping fool as it will remain the only 'culture' that has relevance in our consumer-driven society.

    quit thinking about the doublethink comrade.

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    @Noumenon72
    Mathematically, 3 million to 60 million in 65 years is growth of 4.75% a year. Not that impressive.

    The maximum rate of population growth that a fertile and libidinous human population using absolutely no contraception whatsoever and with little infectious disease destroying newborns, and actually displaying a devil-may-care pro natalist policy, is around 3.5% per annum.
    This is copulation and impregnation max ie a population which is basically taking the possible limits of human fertility right to the furthest extent possible.
    In that context, a growth rate of 4.5% per annum, albeit supplemented by mass immigration, is simply, in human terms, hyper fertile.

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  139. @CMPX
    "No, I think hispanics are only counted as white when they are perps, not when they’re victims."

    They are counted as either perps or victims (or both), depending on the dataset. In the datasets where homicide victims are coded as either hispanic or non-hispanic, most of the "white" victims of black perps will be hispanic.

    They are counted as either perps or victims (or both), depending on the dataset. In the datasets where homicide victims are coded as either hispanic or non-hispanic, most of the “white” victims of black perps will be hispanic.

    Do you have any examples of this you could link to?

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  140. @Cicero
    One of the finest pronouncements ever made on Brazilian ethnic identity, and one that could be extended to all societies that have diverse intermixed populations was penned by Euclides da Cunha in his book Os Sertões (1902).* I think it is relevant to America as well, more so with each passing day.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Os_Sert%C3%B5es

    "...The Brazilian, as an abstract type that we seek to define, can only be viewed as a human type in progress, the result of an extraordinarily complex mixing of races. In theory he would be the light-brown-skinned type, the product of successive crossings of the mulatto, the curiboca, and the cafuzo. However, it is unrealistic, if not absurd, to insist on the reality of such a type. The history of each region of Brazil varies greatly, as does the climate. The different racial types react differently to each of these factors. The rates of miscegenation also vary greatly by region. In colonial times racial mixing occurred because of armed invasions. From that time to the present day it has also been the result of the arrival of new populations. It is a process that has never been consistent...

    ...In summary, the many opinions expressed on this subject have been diverse and of dubious validity.

    We believe that the confusion is due to the focus of these studies on a single ethnic type, when in fact there are many. We do not have a unified race. We may never have one. We are predestined to create a historic race, providing that our nation remains autonomous long enough to produce it. In this regard we are inverting the natural order: Our biological evolution depends on social process.

    We are condemned to civilization. Either we progress or we become extinct. That much is certain.

    It is not just the heterogeneity of our ancestral heritage that suggests this. Other equally important conditions reinforce it--- the vast and diverse physical environment of our country combined with a continuous flux of historical situations, which are in large part shaped by the environment. This is a subject we must briefly consider..."

    (pg. 60-62, Penguin Classics edition)

    *I read this book in translation a few years back, and it truly is fantastic and perfect material for iSteve. It covers race, culture, geography, religion, politics, and military strategy and wraps it all up in a gripping narrative about progressive liberal modernism vs traditional religious peasant society in an all-out war that killed tens of thousands before it ended. One of the best books to ever come out of Brazilian literature, and one that has a place in the World literary canon as well.

    One of the finest pronouncements ever made on Brazilian ethnic identity, and one that could be extended to all societies that have diverse intermixed populations was penned by Euclides da Cunha in his book Os Sertões (1902).

    I disagree that it’s a particularly fine pronouncement. In fact, I find it rather banal – at bottom, something a 10 year-old could whip up without any great exertion.

    Racial thinkers of da Cunha’s ilk love to congratulate themselves for (what they imagine is) their keen foresight, but in reality mixing would have continued on its merry way whether da Cunha had anything to say about it or not. The same goes for every other anti-racist rock star theorist.

    Mixing is easy; it’s preservation that is difficult. Even societies that go as far as outlawing mixing have not been able to prevent it. The main thing outlawing it accomplishes is to slow down the rate of mixing. But so what? In the long run what matters is that mixing took place, not that the rate at which it occurred.

    As far as I’m concerned mixing – particularly mixing with blacks (of whom there will be some 3-4 billion by century’s end) – is going to irretrievably ruin everything I think is worth living for, and if I’m powerless to prevent it than at least I can have a right old laugh at anti-racists’ expense. So I say: observe, anti-racist ninny, as I urinate all over your sensibilities.

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    Cunha was not an anti-racist by any measure. He did not celebrate African culture or mixing between different ethnic groups. In another section of his book he blatantly spells out what he felt were the weaknesses of the African slaves who were imported to Brazil, and critiques the Native Indian tribes in a distinctly un-PC fashion as well. He came down hard on those who promoted mestizaje and other attempts at social engineering, and celebrated the accomplishment of the Portuguese in Brazil, but he also recognized there were limits to any civilization. He thought importing large numbers of Europeans into hostile disease-ridden tropical environments to "Whiten" the nation would unleash all sorts of unintended consequences to Brazilian society.

    He did not dismiss the African and American Indian out of hand either. He understood that their continued physical presence in the Brazilian nation was inevitable, because the clash between large ethno-racial groups is not something that can be managed through technocratic government initiatives or sociological treatises, no matter how well thought out. The power of different groups ebbs and flows over the course of history, snapping back and forth, often with stunning rapidity. He likened it to phenomena of nature like the weather and geological formation, with all of the brutality and destruction those forces can unleash on the ignorant and unprepared.

    To this point, he applies it to the main narrative of the book. A mystic formed a community of poor people out in the backlands of Brazil, based on opposition to the "satanic" Brazilian Republic. At that time the Republic was barely a few years old and heavily inspired by French Republican ideals on Laïcité and Positivism. The rebels were mostly composed of ex-slaves and the local cowboys, very heavily mixed racially, rural and isolated, practicing a form of Catholicism heavily syncretized with African and Indian elements, and totally outside the mainstream of late 19th century European (White) civilization. Cunha describes them as practically medieval in their thinking, and most likely unable to cope with life outside of the narrow niche they live in. Even the mystic's White followers have assimilated to these primitive norms, despite providing the bulk of the leadership of the sect because it provides a structure to their lives that the outside world cannot.

    When the Brazilian government gets wind of what is going on, they send out a small police force to take down the settlement, but they find out the settlement's population has already grown to number in the tens of thousands and have to retreat. Back in the coastal cities, the mostly White, secular, educated, urban intellectuals who rule there are simply incapable of understanding the motivations of the backlanders. They assume they can use force to break them up, in order that the region can be civilized. They succeed after nearly a year and a half and several humiliating reverses, killing the majority of the backlanders in the process. It becomes a secular Crusade for the government, even though they barely understand why they are committing so much time and resources to "reforming" these backlanders, who left to their own devices, would accomplish very little, threaten very little, and most likely collapse upon themselves within a decade or two.

    In the short term, the government managed to wipe out that community in the backlands, that proto-Ghetto of undesirables that conflicted with their secular and reformist ideals, but it meant nothing. More slums would form in Brazil over the coming decades, a natural result of the government's own urban and social formation policies (see the building of Brasilia for a prime example of this). And this time the poor would be living even closer to the rich Liberals, and they could no longer be simply brushed away, cue City of God. Brazilian society still lives with this issue.

    You see, Cunha did not have the terminology we have today, but the general feeling I got from reading his book was that he was describing an early form of Blank Slatism. A very violent, poorly organized, and crude form of it, but Blank Slatism regardless. And with a healthy dose of other Liberal Utopian ideologies partnered with it. The Brazilian ruling class was incapable of understanding why their ideology was incompatible with people from other racial, religious, and cultural backgrounds, and lashed out at them. Today in America we use welfare programs, Section 8 housing, affirmative action, and desperate impact lawsuits as the common tools to level the playing field, but there is an implicit threat of paramilitary and military force behind it, and a fanatical desire to do so that Cunha would have recognized very well.

    You just have to look at Brazil today to see that the ruling class has not changed that much. They now ape American-style racial policies to achieve their goals, but the ideas that motivate them is not all that different from their great-grandfathers. At the heart of it is a desire to use reason to "solve" a problem that is essentially unsolvable because it is a part of human nature. Left to their own devices, these conflicts are self-regulating when members of radically different groups live close to each other. Not always pleasant, but not as dismal as you might think either.

    Cunha was killed by a conspiracy organized by radial reformists in the army who objected to his critique of them and their goals, but it did not end the issue or silence his words. If we wish to win in the struggles ahead, Fanaticism must be weathered and then dismantled. We need to be articulate in our position, but also appreciate the implications of what we champion. To not do so would make us little different from those we fight.
  141. @anonymous
    The "left" position you're describing is suicide for Israeli Jews. Actually, there are those on the Israeli Jewish left who support those positions. Also, even Netanyahu, in the last round of negotiations he was forced to go through, offered the Palestinians part of East Jerusalem. Also, many of the settlements in the interior of the West Bank would be uprooted in any settlement. And the Labor position on the Old City of Jerusalem is to give it all back except for the plaza in front of the Western Wall and (maybe) the old Jewish Quarter (from which Jews were ethnically cleansed in 1948).

    I'm not sure what you mean by "Palestinian state on pre-67 territory" other than complete disestablishment of Israel and replacement by a majority Arab state, which would soon be Judenfrei.

    Why Israel should be considered morally obligated to bestow statehood on the Palestinians when the Palestinians have no intention of living in peace with Israel, even if truncated to the pre-67 borders, is not clear to me. Nor is it clear to me why such a Palestinian state (which would soon be taken over by Hamas or ISIS) would be in the interests of the United States.

    Sorry, I don't see why Israeli Jews are obligated to apologize for their existence to the rest of the world. But I do see why that is the leftist position: the left is the ideology of Western suicide.

    In any event, whether you see the divide in Israel as Left/Right or Center/Right, Yesh Atid and its game-show host leader, Lapid, are not on the "Right" side of the divide.

    Why Israel should be considered morally obligated to bestow statehood on the Palestinians when the Palestinians have no intention of living in peace with Israel, even if truncated to the pre-67 borders, is not clear to me.

    This is the usual zionist inversion of reality. The truth is the zionist track record demonstrates quite unambiguously that it has no intention of making peace with Palestinians.

    As for why Israel is morally obligated to recognize Palestinian statehood, nothing could be clearer: Palestinians don’t owe you anything; you owe them.

    Nor is it clear to me why such a Palestinian state (which would soon be taken over by Hamas or ISIS) would be in the interests of the United States.

    A Palestinian state run by Hamas, as undesirable as that is, would be much less of a problem to the United States than a Zionist state run by Likud.

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    The Jews don't owe the Palestinians anything more than any other ethnic and sectarian group in the Middle East owes any other such group. Israel has offered the Palestinians statehood several times but it's clear that the Palestinians are not interested in statehood except on terms that would be suicide for Israel.

    It's amazing, all the isolationist, Jew-obsessed rightwingers who comment here who say, out of one side of their mouths, that the US has no interest in the disputes between peoples in the Middle East, and, out of the other side of their mouths, say it's desperately important that the US force Israel to bestow statehood on the Palestinians, who celebrated on 9/11.

    How exactly would "a Zionist state run by Likud" be a problem for the United States, other than in the demented minds of the idiots in the foreign policy establishment who are in love with Iran and want to be ravished by the mullahs? Is Israel's presence on the West Bank causing global warming?

    I get the feeling your problem is not just with "a Zionist state run by Likud" but with any Zionist state, period. Which puts you in the same camp as the celebrity pseudo-intellectual in the White House.

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    @silviosilver

    Why Israel should be considered morally obligated to bestow statehood on the Palestinians when the Palestinians have no intention of living in peace with Israel, even if truncated to the pre-67 borders, is not clear to me.
     
    This is the usual zionist inversion of reality. The truth is the zionist track record demonstrates quite unambiguously that it has no intention of making peace with Palestinians.

    As for why Israel is morally obligated to recognize Palestinian statehood, nothing could be clearer: Palestinians don't owe you anything; you owe them.

    Nor is it clear to me why such a Palestinian state (which would soon be taken over by Hamas or ISIS) would be in the interests of the United States.
     
    A Palestinian state run by Hamas, as undesirable as that is, would be much less of a problem to the United States than a Zionist state run by Likud.

    The Jews don’t owe the Palestinians anything more than any other ethnic and sectarian group in the Middle East owes any other such group. Israel has offered the Palestinians statehood several times but it’s clear that the Palestinians are not interested in statehood except on terms that would be suicide for Israel.

    It’s amazing, all the isolationist, Jew-obsessed rightwingers who comment here who say, out of one side of their mouths, that the US has no interest in the disputes between peoples in the Middle East, and, out of the other side of their mouths, say it’s desperately important that the US force Israel to bestow statehood on the Palestinians, who celebrated on 9/11.

    How exactly would “a Zionist state run by Likud” be a problem for the United States, other than in the demented minds of the idiots in the foreign policy establishment who are in love with Iran and want to be ravished by the mullahs? Is Israel’s presence on the West Bank causing global warming?

    I get the feeling your problem is not just with “a Zionist state run by Likud” but with any Zionist state, period. Which puts you in the same camp as the celebrity pseudo-intellectual in the White House.

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    The Israelis owe the Palestinians something because they control their lives. It's that simple.

    I remember back in 1967, after the great victory, how I used to tell my friends -- who included many Jews -- that the Israelis should simply annex the territory they had conquered. I was young. I was naive. I did not understand that the Israelis want the land, but they desperately do not want the people living on it.

    I remember throughout the '70's and '80's whenever I used to read about some problem in Greater Israel how I would be assured by some older Jewish friend that the Palestinians loved living under Israeli control. All of that changed with the First Intifada -- which created the Two State model we have had ever since -- as well as the Second.

    It's pretty clear that Israel intends to keep all the land under their nominal control. Talking to Jewish friends today, they usually don't want to think about what that will eventually entail, except occasionally they will talk about bribing the Palestinians to leave.

    The problem is that Israel cannot have that many non-Jewish people living under their control who are treated differently than the Israeli (as such) population. It's fundamentally unfair, everyone recognizes that it is unfair, and it is pointed out all the time by people in every country of the world -- including Israel. That is the reason why Israel is constantly being criticized. That is why BDS. That is why the US constantly loses diplomatic leverage by squandering it on preventing an essentially powerless UN from criticizing Israel. And so on. It basically is not in the interests of the United States to constantly defend a regime that is fundamentally unfair in the realm of human rights.

    Now, one can say criticism of Israel is overblown. Agreed. Fueled at times by anti-Semitism. Agreed. Not applied to many countries that are worse than Israel. Agreed.

    But that doesn't change the fundamentally unfair human rights train wreck that has been transpiring in Israel since 1987. One can waste a lot of energy defending it, as if internet commentary will make it defensible. It won't. Most of us are just watching it happen, and shaking our heads.
    , @silviosilver

    The Jews don’t owe the Palestinians anything more than any other ethnic and sectarian group in the Middle East owes any other such group. Israel has offered the Palestinians statehood several times but it’s clear that the Palestinians are not interested in statehood except on terms that would be suicide for Israel.
     
    You neglected to include a line about driving the Jews into the sea, tsk tsk.

    But look, Palestinians didn't invade and conquer Israel; Jews invaded and conquered Palestine. And you've been abusing and oppressing Palestinians ever since, all the while concocting outrageous lies about the conflict. It's intolerable.

    How exactly would “a Zionist state run by Likud” be a problem for the United States, other than in the demented minds of the idiots in the foreign policy establishment who are in love with Iran and want to be ravished by the mullahs?
     
    You've answered your own question. Iran is America's problem because Iran is Israel's problem. And there's no "would" here - this is the existing state of affairs.

    A zionist state run by a party other than Likud would remain morally problematic, but one expects that the clamoring for war (against Israel's enemies, not America's) would subside some.

    I get the feeling your problem is not just with “a Zionist state run by Likud” but with any Zionist state, period.
     
    I'm under no obligation to approve of zionism. Were it up to me I would not have created an Israel.
  143. @anonymous
    The Jews don't owe the Palestinians anything more than any other ethnic and sectarian group in the Middle East owes any other such group. Israel has offered the Palestinians statehood several times but it's clear that the Palestinians are not interested in statehood except on terms that would be suicide for Israel.

    It's amazing, all the isolationist, Jew-obsessed rightwingers who comment here who say, out of one side of their mouths, that the US has no interest in the disputes between peoples in the Middle East, and, out of the other side of their mouths, say it's desperately important that the US force Israel to bestow statehood on the Palestinians, who celebrated on 9/11.

    How exactly would "a Zionist state run by Likud" be a problem for the United States, other than in the demented minds of the idiots in the foreign policy establishment who are in love with Iran and want to be ravished by the mullahs? Is Israel's presence on the West Bank causing global warming?

    I get the feeling your problem is not just with "a Zionist state run by Likud" but with any Zionist state, period. Which puts you in the same camp as the celebrity pseudo-intellectual in the White House.

    The Israelis owe the Palestinians something because they control their lives. It’s that simple.

    I remember back in 1967, after the great victory, how I used to tell my friends — who included many Jews — that the Israelis should simply annex the territory they had conquered. I was young. I was naive. I did not understand that the Israelis want the land, but they desperately do not want the people living on it.

    I remember throughout the ’70′s and ’80′s whenever I used to read about some problem in Greater Israel how I would be assured by some older Jewish friend that the Palestinians loved living under Israeli control. All of that changed with the First Intifada — which created the Two State model we have had ever since — as well as the Second.

    It’s pretty clear that Israel intends to keep all the land under their nominal control. Talking to Jewish friends today, they usually don’t want to think about what that will eventually entail, except occasionally they will talk about bribing the Palestinians to leave.

    The problem is that Israel cannot have that many non-Jewish people living under their control who are treated differently than the Israeli (as such) population. It’s fundamentally unfair, everyone recognizes that it is unfair, and it is pointed out all the time by people in every country of the world — including Israel. That is the reason why Israel is constantly being criticized. That is why BDS. That is why the US constantly loses diplomatic leverage by squandering it on preventing an essentially powerless UN from criticizing Israel. And so on. It basically is not in the interests of the United States to constantly defend a regime that is fundamentally unfair in the realm of human rights.

    Now, one can say criticism of Israel is overblown. Agreed. Fueled at times by anti-Semitism. Agreed. Not applied to many countries that are worse than Israel. Agreed.

    But that doesn’t change the fundamentally unfair human rights train wreck that has been transpiring in Israel since 1987. One can waste a lot of energy defending it, as if internet commentary will make it defensible. It won’t. Most of us are just watching it happen, and shaking our heads.

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  144. @silviosilver

    One of the finest pronouncements ever made on Brazilian ethnic identity, and one that could be extended to all societies that have diverse intermixed populations was penned by Euclides da Cunha in his book Os Sertões (1902).
     
    I disagree that it's a particularly fine pronouncement. In fact, I find it rather banal - at bottom, something a 10 year-old could whip up without any great exertion.

    Racial thinkers of da Cunha's ilk love to congratulate themselves for (what they imagine is) their keen foresight, but in reality mixing would have continued on its merry way whether da Cunha had anything to say about it or not. The same goes for every other anti-racist rock star theorist.

    Mixing is easy; it's preservation that is difficult. Even societies that go as far as outlawing mixing have not been able to prevent it. The main thing outlawing it accomplishes is to slow down the rate of mixing. But so what? In the long run what matters is that mixing took place, not that the rate at which it occurred.

    As far as I'm concerned mixing - particularly mixing with blacks (of whom there will be some 3-4 billion by century's end) - is going to irretrievably ruin everything I think is worth living for, and if I'm powerless to prevent it than at least I can have a right old laugh at anti-racists' expense. So I say: observe, anti-racist ninny, as I urinate all over your sensibilities.

    Cunha was not an anti-racist by any measure. He did not celebrate African culture or mixing between different ethnic groups. In another section of his book he blatantly spells out what he felt were the weaknesses of the African slaves who were imported to Brazil, and critiques the Native Indian tribes in a distinctly un-PC fashion as well. He came down hard on those who promoted mestizaje and other attempts at social engineering, and celebrated the accomplishment of the Portuguese in Brazil, but he also recognized there were limits to any civilization. He thought importing large numbers of Europeans into hostile disease-ridden tropical environments to “Whiten” the nation would unleash all sorts of unintended consequences to Brazilian society.

    He did not dismiss the African and American Indian out of hand either. He understood that their continued physical presence in the Brazilian nation was inevitable, because the clash between large ethno-racial groups is not something that can be managed through technocratic government initiatives or sociological treatises, no matter how well thought out. The power of different groups ebbs and flows over the course of history, snapping back and forth, often with stunning rapidity. He likened it to phenomena of nature like the weather and geological formation, with all of the brutality and destruction those forces can unleash on the ignorant and unprepared.

    To this point, he applies it to the main narrative of the book. A mystic formed a community of poor people out in the backlands of Brazil, based on opposition to the “satanic” Brazilian Republic. At that time the Republic was barely a few years old and heavily inspired by French Republican ideals on Laïcité and Positivism. The rebels were mostly composed of ex-slaves and the local cowboys, very heavily mixed racially, rural and isolated, practicing a form of Catholicism heavily syncretized with African and Indian elements, and totally outside the mainstream of late 19th century European (White) civilization. Cunha describes them as practically medieval in their thinking, and most likely unable to cope with life outside of the narrow niche they live in. Even the mystic’s White followers have assimilated to these primitive norms, despite providing the bulk of the leadership of the sect because it provides a structure to their lives that the outside world cannot.

    When the Brazilian government gets wind of what is going on, they send out a small police force to take down the settlement, but they find out the settlement’s population has already grown to number in the tens of thousands and have to retreat. Back in the coastal cities, the mostly White, secular, educated, urban intellectuals who rule there are simply incapable of understanding the motivations of the backlanders. They assume they can use force to break them up, in order that the region can be civilized. They succeed after nearly a year and a half and several humiliating reverses, killing the majority of the backlanders in the process. It becomes a secular Crusade for the government, even though they barely understand why they are committing so much time and resources to “reforming” these backlanders, who left to their own devices, would accomplish very little, threaten very little, and most likely collapse upon themselves within a decade or two.

    In the short term, the government managed to wipe out that community in the backlands, that proto-Ghetto of undesirables that conflicted with their secular and reformist ideals, but it meant nothing. More slums would form in Brazil over the coming decades, a natural result of the government’s own urban and social formation policies (see the building of Brasilia for a prime example of this). And this time the poor would be living even closer to the rich Liberals, and they could no longer be simply brushed away, cue City of God. Brazilian society still lives with this issue.

    You see, Cunha did not have the terminology we have today, but the general feeling I got from reading his book was that he was describing an early form of Blank Slatism. A very violent, poorly organized, and crude form of it, but Blank Slatism regardless. And with a healthy dose of other Liberal Utopian ideologies partnered with it. The Brazilian ruling class was incapable of understanding why their ideology was incompatible with people from other racial, religious, and cultural backgrounds, and lashed out at them. Today in America we use welfare programs, Section 8 housing, affirmative action, and desperate impact lawsuits as the common tools to level the playing field, but there is an implicit threat of paramilitary and military force behind it, and a fanatical desire to do so that Cunha would have recognized very well.

    You just have to look at Brazil today to see that the ruling class has not changed that much. They now ape American-style racial policies to achieve their goals, but the ideas that motivate them is not all that different from their great-grandfathers. At the heart of it is a desire to use reason to “solve” a problem that is essentially unsolvable because it is a part of human nature. Left to their own devices, these conflicts are self-regulating when members of radically different groups live close to each other. Not always pleasant, but not as dismal as you might think either.

    Cunha was killed by a conspiracy organized by radial reformists in the army who objected to his critique of them and their goals, but it did not end the issue or silence his words. If we wish to win in the struggles ahead, Fanaticism must be weathered and then dismantled. We need to be articulate in our position, but also appreciate the implications of what we champion. To not do so would make us little different from those we fight.

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  145. @anonymous
    The Jews don't owe the Palestinians anything more than any other ethnic and sectarian group in the Middle East owes any other such group. Israel has offered the Palestinians statehood several times but it's clear that the Palestinians are not interested in statehood except on terms that would be suicide for Israel.

    It's amazing, all the isolationist, Jew-obsessed rightwingers who comment here who say, out of one side of their mouths, that the US has no interest in the disputes between peoples in the Middle East, and, out of the other side of their mouths, say it's desperately important that the US force Israel to bestow statehood on the Palestinians, who celebrated on 9/11.

    How exactly would "a Zionist state run by Likud" be a problem for the United States, other than in the demented minds of the idiots in the foreign policy establishment who are in love with Iran and want to be ravished by the mullahs? Is Israel's presence on the West Bank causing global warming?

    I get the feeling your problem is not just with "a Zionist state run by Likud" but with any Zionist state, period. Which puts you in the same camp as the celebrity pseudo-intellectual in the White House.

    The Jews don’t owe the Palestinians anything more than any other ethnic and sectarian group in the Middle East owes any other such group. Israel has offered the Palestinians statehood several times but it’s clear that the Palestinians are not interested in statehood except on terms that would be suicide for Israel.

    You neglected to include a line about driving the Jews into the sea, tsk tsk.

    But look, Palestinians didn’t invade and conquer Israel; Jews invaded and conquered Palestine. And you’ve been abusing and oppressing Palestinians ever since, all the while concocting outrageous lies about the conflict. It’s intolerable.

    How exactly would “a Zionist state run by Likud” be a problem for the United States, other than in the demented minds of the idiots in the foreign policy establishment who are in love with Iran and want to be ravished by the mullahs?

    You’ve answered your own question. Iran is America’s problem because Iran is Israel’s problem. And there’s no “would” here – this is the existing state of affairs.

    A zionist state run by a party other than Likud would remain morally problematic, but one expects that the clamoring for war (against Israel’s enemies, not America’s) would subside some.

    I get the feeling your problem is not just with “a Zionist state run by Likud” but with any Zionist state, period.

    I’m under no obligation to approve of zionism. Were it up to me I would not have created an Israel.

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    You obviously know so little about the history of Israel that you're not even worth having an exchange with. I will say this: you're right that you're under no obligation to approve of Zionism, but neither are the Jews under any obligation to commit national suicide to please the Palestinians or persons like yourself.
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    @Reg Cæsar
    I Googled Justice Celso de Mello ("filho" = "Junior"), but got the racer Edgard de Mello (also a Jr) instead. Edgard's interests are given as aviation, motoring, music, film and "cachorrada". WTF?

    This is Google's first image for cachorrada.

    Be glad Edgard's not on their Supreme Court. Or ours!

    Not sure if this is common knowledge or not—

    The dog facing the camera in that pic is the male who is actually copulating with the bitch. Upon entering her, his penis engorged so that the two are “tied” together, and subsequently twisted around to the rear to rear position. They’re conjoined for a good while– up to an hour or so.

    They’re surprisingly flexible– sometimes one will lie down while the other remains standing or they can both twist their torsos around to face in nearly the same direction.

    Male dogs evolved this technique to thwart interloper males– like the one is this pic– whose present effort in mounting the bitch is undoubtedly fruitless.

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  147. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Steve notes that US-born Hispanics marry non-Hispanic whites at a high rate with better educated Hispanic men marrying middle class white women while less educated Hispanic women marrying poor white men. About 50% according to Pew is the intermarriage rate.

    In 50 years, after two generations of intermarriage at 50%, there is not going to be a Hispanic minority as is now understood. The popular definition of white will encompass those of partial Hispanic ancestry.

    This seems really obvious but is unacknowledged by this forum despite how much y’all like talking about race and miscegenation.

    Caldwell is way behind the curve. Steve was 10-15 years ago fretting about anti-white political wave seizing hold of Hispanics in America following the Venezuelan and Bolivian examples. Now that prediction looks dumb and he has dropped the idea trying instead to emphasize how little Hispanics participate in voting now and in the future so the GOP should not focus on engaging those voters.

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    I don't see it all that much Hispanic out-marriage in Southern California. You used to see it more in the past -- in the 1960s I can think of friends and relatives with Spanish surnames who were conventional white people. But there are now

    1. so many Hispanics today in Southern California,

    2. Mexicans tend not to be socially adventurous or confident about stepping out too much outside of their comfort zone

    3. Mexicans aren't particularly the object of anybody's sexual fetish the way some white guys prefer Asian girls and some Asian girls prefer white guys. That may change: I mean, John Wayne liked Latina lovelies, and maybe there will more South American Sofia Vergara-types in the U.S. in the future.

    It could be that the Asian influx hurts the chances of mestiza girls with white boys: maybe there are lots of white guys who would go for mestiza girls if there weren't any East Asian girls around. *

    So most Mexican-Americans in SoCal find their mates within their huge community.

    * Now that I think about it, my prom date in 1975 had a Spanish surname (Ruiz? Silva?), but was kind of a Tiger Cub avant la lettre. She lived a block or two south of Ventura Boulevard in, maybe, Encino. I can remember because I had just learned how to drive and as I turned onto her block, a hubcap came flying off my Buick LeSabre. I pulled over and rather than risk getting getting grease on my powder blue tuxedo (like I said, it was 1975), I tossed it in the trunk for my father to deal with later. Indeed, most of my memories of the evening are related to the challenges of driving as a novice 16-year-old.

    Anyway, her father had a Spanish accent and seemed nice. The main thing I can remember about her was that she _had_ to get a 4.0 GPA at Corvallis HS in order to get into the pre-veterinary program at UC Davis where she had to get a 4.0 GPA in order to get into Vet School at Davis. She was very insistent upon having to get straight A's for the next seven semesters or her life would be ruined. That doesn't sound very Mexican. Maybe her family was from Chile or Peru or somewhere like that. (If my wife is reading this comment, please note that this is all very vague in my memory).

    , @Hare Krishna
    It's not admitted widely here because it would completely undo a basic myth of this blog. Like how solid evidence of Moses never existing would be recieved by Orthodox Jews.
    , @ben tillman

    In 50 years, after two generations of intermarriage at 50%, there is not going to be a Hispanic minority as is now understood. The popular definition of white will encompass those of partial Hispanic ancestry.

    This seems really obvious but is unacknowledged by this forum despite how much y’all like talking about race and miscegenation.
     
    Why would someone acknowledge that? What would be the point?
  148. @Anonymous
    Steve notes that US-born Hispanics marry non-Hispanic whites at a high rate with better educated Hispanic men marrying middle class white women while less educated Hispanic women marrying poor white men. About 50% according to Pew is the intermarriage rate.

    In 50 years, after two generations of intermarriage at 50%, there is not going to be a Hispanic minority as is now understood. The popular definition of white will encompass those of partial Hispanic ancestry.

    This seems really obvious but is unacknowledged by this forum despite how much y'all like talking about race and miscegenation.

    Caldwell is way behind the curve. Steve was 10-15 years ago fretting about anti-white political wave seizing hold of Hispanics in America following the Venezuelan and Bolivian examples. Now that prediction looks dumb and he has dropped the idea trying instead to emphasize how little Hispanics participate in voting now and in the future so the GOP should not focus on engaging those voters.

    I don’t see it all that much Hispanic out-marriage in Southern California. You used to see it more in the past — in the 1960s I can think of friends and relatives with Spanish surnames who were conventional white people. But there are now

    1. so many Hispanics today in Southern California,

    2. Mexicans tend not to be socially adventurous or confident about stepping out too much outside of their comfort zone

    3. Mexicans aren’t particularly the object of anybody’s sexual fetish the way some white guys prefer Asian girls and some Asian girls prefer white guys. That may change: I mean, John Wayne liked Latina lovelies, and maybe there will more South American Sofia Vergara-types in the U.S. in the future.

    It could be that the Asian influx hurts the chances of mestiza girls with white boys: maybe there are lots of white guys who would go for mestiza girls if there weren’t any East Asian girls around. *

    So most Mexican-Americans in SoCal find their mates within their huge community.

    * Now that I think about it, my prom date in 1975 had a Spanish surname (Ruiz? Silva?), but was kind of a Tiger Cub avant la lettre. She lived a block or two south of Ventura Boulevard in, maybe, Encino. I can remember because I had just learned how to drive and as I turned onto her block, a hubcap came flying off my Buick LeSabre. I pulled over and rather than risk getting getting grease on my powder blue tuxedo (like I said, it was 1975), I tossed it in the trunk for my father to deal with later. Indeed, most of my memories of the evening are related to the challenges of driving as a novice 16-year-old.

    Anyway, her father had a Spanish accent and seemed nice. The main thing I can remember about her was that she _had_ to get a 4.0 GPA at Corvallis HS in order to get into the pre-veterinary program at UC Davis where she had to get a 4.0 GPA in order to get into Vet School at Davis. She was very insistent upon having to get straight A’s for the next seven semesters or her life would be ruined. That doesn’t sound very Mexican. Maybe her family was from Chile or Peru or somewhere like that. (If my wife is reading this comment, please note that this is all very vague in my memory).

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    I don’t see it all that much Hispanic out-marriage in Southern California. You used to see it more in the past
     
    Well, present immigration runs more toward Schwarzenegger's maid than Sofia Vergara.
    , @anonymous

    I don’t see it all that much Hispanic out-marriage in Southern California. You used to see it more in the past — in the 1960s I can think of friends and relatives with Spanish surnames who were conventional white people. But there are now
     
    My own totally unscientific observation is that back then Mexican immigrants were often people who had a more Spanish appearance and therefore could blend in better. Since then the waves of immigrants who've come have been more and more indigenous Indian types. Those types tend to stick to themselves. They're squat looking, don't have nice features or pleasing body proportions. Their women don't catch the eye.
    , @Hare Krishna
    Anglo-Hispanic intermarriage in Southern California has become the default norm, given the small numbers of Anglo women. That's why you don't notice it. It's more common than white men and Asian women in SoCal. In NorCal, the reverse is true. Sometimes I wonder if you're not really in the Peninsula or Marin rather than the San Fernando Valley. as you claim.
  149. @Steve Sailer
    I don't see it all that much Hispanic out-marriage in Southern California. You used to see it more in the past -- in the 1960s I can think of friends and relatives with Spanish surnames who were conventional white people. But there are now

    1. so many Hispanics today in Southern California,

    2. Mexicans tend not to be socially adventurous or confident about stepping out too much outside of their comfort zone

    3. Mexicans aren't particularly the object of anybody's sexual fetish the way some white guys prefer Asian girls and some Asian girls prefer white guys. That may change: I mean, John Wayne liked Latina lovelies, and maybe there will more South American Sofia Vergara-types in the U.S. in the future.

    It could be that the Asian influx hurts the chances of mestiza girls with white boys: maybe there are lots of white guys who would go for mestiza girls if there weren't any East Asian girls around. *

    So most Mexican-Americans in SoCal find their mates within their huge community.

    * Now that I think about it, my prom date in 1975 had a Spanish surname (Ruiz? Silva?), but was kind of a Tiger Cub avant la lettre. She lived a block or two south of Ventura Boulevard in, maybe, Encino. I can remember because I had just learned how to drive and as I turned onto her block, a hubcap came flying off my Buick LeSabre. I pulled over and rather than risk getting getting grease on my powder blue tuxedo (like I said, it was 1975), I tossed it in the trunk for my father to deal with later. Indeed, most of my memories of the evening are related to the challenges of driving as a novice 16-year-old.

    Anyway, her father had a Spanish accent and seemed nice. The main thing I can remember about her was that she _had_ to get a 4.0 GPA at Corvallis HS in order to get into the pre-veterinary program at UC Davis where she had to get a 4.0 GPA in order to get into Vet School at Davis. She was very insistent upon having to get straight A's for the next seven semesters or her life would be ruined. That doesn't sound very Mexican. Maybe her family was from Chile or Peru or somewhere like that. (If my wife is reading this comment, please note that this is all very vague in my memory).

    I don’t see it all that much Hispanic out-marriage in Southern California. You used to see it more in the past

    Well, present immigration runs more toward Schwarzenegger’s maid than Sofia Vergara.

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  150. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Steve Sailer
    I don't see it all that much Hispanic out-marriage in Southern California. You used to see it more in the past -- in the 1960s I can think of friends and relatives with Spanish surnames who were conventional white people. But there are now

    1. so many Hispanics today in Southern California,

    2. Mexicans tend not to be socially adventurous or confident about stepping out too much outside of their comfort zone

    3. Mexicans aren't particularly the object of anybody's sexual fetish the way some white guys prefer Asian girls and some Asian girls prefer white guys. That may change: I mean, John Wayne liked Latina lovelies, and maybe there will more South American Sofia Vergara-types in the U.S. in the future.

    It could be that the Asian influx hurts the chances of mestiza girls with white boys: maybe there are lots of white guys who would go for mestiza girls if there weren't any East Asian girls around. *

    So most Mexican-Americans in SoCal find their mates within their huge community.

    * Now that I think about it, my prom date in 1975 had a Spanish surname (Ruiz? Silva?), but was kind of a Tiger Cub avant la lettre. She lived a block or two south of Ventura Boulevard in, maybe, Encino. I can remember because I had just learned how to drive and as I turned onto her block, a hubcap came flying off my Buick LeSabre. I pulled over and rather than risk getting getting grease on my powder blue tuxedo (like I said, it was 1975), I tossed it in the trunk for my father to deal with later. Indeed, most of my memories of the evening are related to the challenges of driving as a novice 16-year-old.

    Anyway, her father had a Spanish accent and seemed nice. The main thing I can remember about her was that she _had_ to get a 4.0 GPA at Corvallis HS in order to get into the pre-veterinary program at UC Davis where she had to get a 4.0 GPA in order to get into Vet School at Davis. She was very insistent upon having to get straight A's for the next seven semesters or her life would be ruined. That doesn't sound very Mexican. Maybe her family was from Chile or Peru or somewhere like that. (If my wife is reading this comment, please note that this is all very vague in my memory).

    I don’t see it all that much Hispanic out-marriage in Southern California. You used to see it more in the past — in the 1960s I can think of friends and relatives with Spanish surnames who were conventional white people. But there are now

    My own totally unscientific observation is that back then Mexican immigrants were often people who had a more Spanish appearance and therefore could blend in better. Since then the waves of immigrants who’ve come have been more and more indigenous Indian types. Those types tend to stick to themselves. They’re squat looking, don’t have nice features or pleasing body proportions. Their women don’t catch the eye.

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  151. “Steve Sailer says:

    JOSÉ ANTONIO DIAS TOFFOLI looks like he’s being played by Matt Damon.”

    Justice JOSÉ CELSO DE MELLO FILHO looks kind of like Jay Rockefeller.

    Some of the other Brazilian justices sport very hispanic names like Weber, Lewandowski, and Zavascki

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  152. “anonymous says:

    It’s amazing, all the isolationist, Jew-obsessed rightwingers who comment here who say, out of one side of their mouths, that the US has no interest in the disputes between peoples in the Middle East, and, out of the other side of their mouths, say it’s desperately important that the US force Israel to bestow statehood on the Palestinians, who celebrated on 9/11.”

    All of them? What’s that – a half dozen? Your implication – that all paleocons are anti-Israeli – is nothing but a lie.

    I don’t care about Israel one way or the other. They can do with Gaza and the West-Bank what they like, and I don’t blame them for anything they have done in that regard. I just want the government of my country to govern my country in the interests of Americans, and not in the interests of some foreign people.

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    @silviosilver

    The Jews don’t owe the Palestinians anything more than any other ethnic and sectarian group in the Middle East owes any other such group. Israel has offered the Palestinians statehood several times but it’s clear that the Palestinians are not interested in statehood except on terms that would be suicide for Israel.
     
    You neglected to include a line about driving the Jews into the sea, tsk tsk.

    But look, Palestinians didn't invade and conquer Israel; Jews invaded and conquered Palestine. And you've been abusing and oppressing Palestinians ever since, all the while concocting outrageous lies about the conflict. It's intolerable.

    How exactly would “a Zionist state run by Likud” be a problem for the United States, other than in the demented minds of the idiots in the foreign policy establishment who are in love with Iran and want to be ravished by the mullahs?
     
    You've answered your own question. Iran is America's problem because Iran is Israel's problem. And there's no "would" here - this is the existing state of affairs.

    A zionist state run by a party other than Likud would remain morally problematic, but one expects that the clamoring for war (against Israel's enemies, not America's) would subside some.

    I get the feeling your problem is not just with “a Zionist state run by Likud” but with any Zionist state, period.
     
    I'm under no obligation to approve of zionism. Were it up to me I would not have created an Israel.

    You obviously know so little about the history of Israel that you’re not even worth having an exchange with. I will say this: you’re right that you’re under no obligation to approve of Zionism, but neither are the Jews under any obligation to commit national suicide to please the Palestinians or persons like yourself.

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  154. @Steve Sailer
    I don't see it all that much Hispanic out-marriage in Southern California. You used to see it more in the past -- in the 1960s I can think of friends and relatives with Spanish surnames who were conventional white people. But there are now

    1. so many Hispanics today in Southern California,

    2. Mexicans tend not to be socially adventurous or confident about stepping out too much outside of their comfort zone

    3. Mexicans aren't particularly the object of anybody's sexual fetish the way some white guys prefer Asian girls and some Asian girls prefer white guys. That may change: I mean, John Wayne liked Latina lovelies, and maybe there will more South American Sofia Vergara-types in the U.S. in the future.

    It could be that the Asian influx hurts the chances of mestiza girls with white boys: maybe there are lots of white guys who would go for mestiza girls if there weren't any East Asian girls around. *

    So most Mexican-Americans in SoCal find their mates within their huge community.

    * Now that I think about it, my prom date in 1975 had a Spanish surname (Ruiz? Silva?), but was kind of a Tiger Cub avant la lettre. She lived a block or two south of Ventura Boulevard in, maybe, Encino. I can remember because I had just learned how to drive and as I turned onto her block, a hubcap came flying off my Buick LeSabre. I pulled over and rather than risk getting getting grease on my powder blue tuxedo (like I said, it was 1975), I tossed it in the trunk for my father to deal with later. Indeed, most of my memories of the evening are related to the challenges of driving as a novice 16-year-old.

    Anyway, her father had a Spanish accent and seemed nice. The main thing I can remember about her was that she _had_ to get a 4.0 GPA at Corvallis HS in order to get into the pre-veterinary program at UC Davis where she had to get a 4.0 GPA in order to get into Vet School at Davis. She was very insistent upon having to get straight A's for the next seven semesters or her life would be ruined. That doesn't sound very Mexican. Maybe her family was from Chile or Peru or somewhere like that. (If my wife is reading this comment, please note that this is all very vague in my memory).

    Anglo-Hispanic intermarriage in Southern California has become the default norm, given the small numbers of Anglo women. That’s why you don’t notice it. It’s more common than white men and Asian women in SoCal. In NorCal, the reverse is true. Sometimes I wonder if you’re not really in the Peninsula or Marin rather than the San Fernando Valley. as you claim.

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  155. @Anonymous
    Steve notes that US-born Hispanics marry non-Hispanic whites at a high rate with better educated Hispanic men marrying middle class white women while less educated Hispanic women marrying poor white men. About 50% according to Pew is the intermarriage rate.

    In 50 years, after two generations of intermarriage at 50%, there is not going to be a Hispanic minority as is now understood. The popular definition of white will encompass those of partial Hispanic ancestry.

    This seems really obvious but is unacknowledged by this forum despite how much y'all like talking about race and miscegenation.

    Caldwell is way behind the curve. Steve was 10-15 years ago fretting about anti-white political wave seizing hold of Hispanics in America following the Venezuelan and Bolivian examples. Now that prediction looks dumb and he has dropped the idea trying instead to emphasize how little Hispanics participate in voting now and in the future so the GOP should not focus on engaging those voters.

    It’s not admitted widely here because it would completely undo a basic myth of this blog. Like how solid evidence of Moses never existing would be recieved by Orthodox Jews.

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    It’s not admitted widely here because it would completely undo a basic myth of this blog.
     
    A myth that you are unable to identify for us. Thanks!
  156. @Anonymous
    Steve notes that US-born Hispanics marry non-Hispanic whites at a high rate with better educated Hispanic men marrying middle class white women while less educated Hispanic women marrying poor white men. About 50% according to Pew is the intermarriage rate.

    In 50 years, after two generations of intermarriage at 50%, there is not going to be a Hispanic minority as is now understood. The popular definition of white will encompass those of partial Hispanic ancestry.

    This seems really obvious but is unacknowledged by this forum despite how much y'all like talking about race and miscegenation.

    Caldwell is way behind the curve. Steve was 10-15 years ago fretting about anti-white political wave seizing hold of Hispanics in America following the Venezuelan and Bolivian examples. Now that prediction looks dumb and he has dropped the idea trying instead to emphasize how little Hispanics participate in voting now and in the future so the GOP should not focus on engaging those voters.

    In 50 years, after two generations of intermarriage at 50%, there is not going to be a Hispanic minority as is now understood. The popular definition of white will encompass those of partial Hispanic ancestry.

    This seems really obvious but is unacknowledged by this forum despite how much y’all like talking about race and miscegenation.

    Why would someone acknowledge that? What would be the point?

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  157. @Hare Krishna
    It's not admitted widely here because it would completely undo a basic myth of this blog. Like how solid evidence of Moses never existing would be recieved by Orthodox Jews.

    It’s not admitted widely here because it would completely undo a basic myth of this blog.

    A myth that you are unable to identify for us. Thanks!

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  158. Anglo-Hispanic intermarriage in Southern California has become the default norm, given the small numbers of Anglo women.

    Dubious in the extreme.

    According to the CDC’s VitalStats database non-hispanic white men fathered children with non-hispanic white women at a rate of 74% in L.A. County in 2013.

    If Anglo-Hispanic intermarriage were the “norm” these men would be having children with white women but marrying hispanic women. Not likely.

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  159. @silviosilver

    All I know is…

    I’ll take Mexicans over blacks.

    If this country is gonna take in more blacks, any bunch of non-blacks will do just to serve as buffer against the ghastly Negroes.
     
    If blacks are stronger and more intimidating than whites, as you never fail to remind people, then surely they are stronger and more intimidating than Mexicans. So why do I so rarely hear stories of outrageous black violence against Mexicans as I do against whites? Do these incidents happen as regularly but the information doesn't reach me or is there something about Mexican behavior that makes blacks think twice?

    As for your buffer concept, that's definitely true. Latinos are a better choice than Asians, I believe. Even though they're dumber they are more likeable, and more importantly, they are more willing to openly stand up to black thuggery, whereas Asians take the more circumspect and duplicitous route of Jews. Some way to split their ranks between white-sympathizers and indio-sympathizers without being insulting to the latter (otherwise the former will side with them) will have to be found.

    “As for your buffer concept, that’s definitely true. Latinos are a better choice than Asians, I believe. Even though they’re dumber they are more likeable, and more importantly, they are more willing to openly stand up to black thuggery, whereas Asians take the more circumspect and duplicitous route of Jews.”

    The irony that you like Hispanics more than Asians and Jews, even though Hispanics are way more likely than Asians and Jews to have Black blood pumping through their hearts. And not just Caribbean Hispanics even Mexicans have Black blood in them, Sub Saharan DNA showed up in the ancestry results of Mexican celebrities Eva Longoria and George Lopez.

    Under the old Jim Crow one drop rule laws, Asians and Jews would be higher on the racial food chain than Hispanics because of the lack of Sub Saharan DNA in Jews and Asians.

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  160. @Jefferson
    I am glad that the term Non Hispanic White exists because if you eliminate it altogether and just stick to the term White, it gives the false impression that a whopping 77 percent of the U.S population is actually legit White.

    Do 77 out of every 100 Americans actually racially look like The Republican Party? If America was actually 77 percent White right now, there is no way Hussein Obama would have defeated Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential elections.

    How many Nacho Varga looking people (Mexican gangster from "Better Call Saul") are in that 77 percent White stat from the U.S census bureau? Quite a lot.

    Ok, you obviously don’t know what a white Hispanic is. For better reference I’ll point out some celebrities that are white Hispanic; Cameron Diaz, Christina Aguilera, Guillermo del Toro. White Hispanics are the equivalent of non white Hispanics in that their ancestry is European, not indigenous to the Hispanic states. Hence they are white. Oh and as to your racist dig at white people, the majority that voted for Obama were white, Hispanic AND non. Mitt Romney represents rich people which the vast majority of the white people you hate are not.

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