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My impression of Berkeley from 40 years ago was that it was a good school for smart kids, but it was not a good place for kids who needed a lot of help to get by. If it is still like that, letting in more lower IQ students is just setting them up for flunking out.

Here’s an informative L.A. Times article about a Straight-A student from the most notorious high school in Los Angeles who got admitted to Berkeley … and was not thriving:

South L.A. student finds a different world at UC Berkeley

Kashawn Campbell overcame many obstacles to become a straight-A student. But his freshman year at Berkeley shook him to the core.
By KURT STREETER
AUG. 16, 2013 7 AM

 
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  1. Andy says:

    Elite universities like Berkeley are obviously not going to let any moron in. They are not going to ruin their own brand. So with what they plan to replace the SAT/ACT?

  2. Asians and whites will be the victims.

    But Andrew Yang will fix this with the Guaranteed Income plan. Yes, you have been deprived of your patrimony, and the parasites will live in your house, drive your car, and spend your retirement money, but you will be better off for it!

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
  3. dearieme says:

    Tell the best to apply to Oxford or Cambridge. The UK government keeps interfering with their admissions policies but neglects to interfere with foreign candidates. With foreigners the dons will get their way and simply admit the brightest and most enthusiastic irrespective of race, social background, and all that rubbish.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Alden
  4. (1) Notice the use of the word “inequities” (not inequalities) — this is part of the move toward equalizing *outcomes*

    (2) Berkeley is the most prestigious public university in the US — where it goes, others will follow

    As far as one goes, it’s well know by the powers-that-be this is largely bullshit, but will lead to more unqualified students being in the place. (See Steve’s articles about Harvard.) That institution can take in about 20 percent, maybe a little less, of dead weight and still make out financially as a powerhouse of IQ, but more importantly of contact making.

    Two percent of 300 million is six million, so numerically, there are a lot of genius-level people in the country. But how many from Florida, Nebraska, Colorado, and so forth state universities have easy access to the millions a mere 10 or fewer years after graduating.

    Oh yeah. And on the second one, screw Berkley. They made their bed, let them lie in it. Science universities are vastly important for keeping the ball rolling. Uni’s that focused on liberal arts and social sciences screwed themselves over years ago.

    That second one is a shame because I remember learning a lot from prof’s but I’m not sure how much it’s either changed since then or just been reported on.

    • Replies: @Realist
  5. OT; slightly. I’ve made this same point/statement/bitch before, but really, writers on the right really need to stop referring to libs as ‘highly educated.’ ‘Highly credentialed’ is a close second.

    For the last 30 years at least, having a BA, or even a BS, doesn’t make you highly educated. A bunch of us have those and don’t consider ourselves ‘highly educated.’

    This was brought about by an otherwise good article on Front Page talking about Peggy Noonan.

    Especially galling was that the writer called Hillary ‘highly educated’, (or to tell the truth, the second word may have been ‘credentialed),’ in comparisson to Trump. Hillary got a law degree (essentially a graduate degree), and Trump, if I’m not mistaken, went to Penn. for undergrad, and then Wharton for an MBA. To me those are equivalent levels of attainment.

    And again, many, many, gov’t jobs at state, local, and federal level only require a degree. How in the hell does having a degree in forest management, or, more to the point, a postgrad degree in something like ‘business practices, higher education management, etc.’ as being ‘highly educated.’ This has been a scam for years for people to be able to put ‘Dr.’ in front of there name.

  6. Oh, that Christ! The other one said “the first shall be last and the last shall be first, for few be called, but many chosen” so this is fulfillment of prophecy.

  7. The beautiful lie of the “blank slate” is at the very heart of this (post-) modern social hysteria.
    We should have been more careful with what we taught children. And we should really start keeping score at their little league games.

    • Agree: jim jones
  8. @Andy

    White and Asian applicants will keep on taking the SAT/ACT. Black and Hispanic applicants will be the ones who opt out, and this will make it harder for anyone to measure the extent of the double standard.

    • Agree: res, Hail
  9. Not Raul says:

    Sometimes elites are out-scored by nobodies.

    • Agree: Herbert West, Rosie
  10. @Andy

    So with what they plan to replace the SAT/ACT?

    They could make up their own test and hold auditions like Jeopardy!

  11. Alice says:

    The engineering school at Cal has had separate admissions for a long time already, since before at least 1999. I believe their college of chemistry (yes, college) does as well. Practically, you cannot get into any engineering major (including engineering physics, the serious version of physics major) by getting into the liberal arts and science college and then transferring over.

    My guess is the engineering school will continue to require the SAT even if L&S does not. AP score proxies, SAT acheivement tests etc. will still be available to them as well.

  12. Except most of the Asians have powerful homelands to which they will either retreat, or for which they will act as agents in the looting of US wealth.

    Asians are up with Jews as the most prosperous demographics in the US. The idea that they will suffer is overblown. They have many prestigious universities which they have essentially colonized. Who will suffer is who has always suffered: non-Jewish red state Whites.

    • Replies: @Kaz
  13. Not Raul says:
    @Andy

    Trivial Pursuit: Brooklyn Edition

  14. Hail says: • Website

    From wiki:

    In 1970, Christ joined the faculty at the University of California, Berkeley

    Wow.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  15. Somehow, Berkeley will become more Euro and Asian I suspicion.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  16. Forbes says:

    Much of this started well over a decade ago, as I had friends who recited the hoop jumping required by their kids on the college admissions application.

    It wasn’t enough to have good grades, be on student council, play a sport, helm an activities committee or club, or belong to Boy/Girl Scouts/4H/FFA. The “hoops” were all out-of-school activities with a left-wing activist agenda–as if grooming a junior community organizer.(before anyone had barely herd of Barack Obama).

    And the parents had their Chinese menu-like list to nag their kids, and check off as completed, to make sure the college application was complete.

    Who cares what the SAT/ACT score is when you’re indoctrinating adolescents into becoming PC/SJW prog-lefties…

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @Duke84
  17. @Andy

    “Elite universities like Berkeley are obviously not going to let any moron in. They are not going to ruin their own brand.”

    Don’t be so sure about that. Ever heard of Kashawn Campbell? I can’t cut and paste the link, but look at the Los Angeles Times of August 16, 2013: “South L.A. student finds a different world at UC Berkeley,” by Kurt Streeter. Education Realist did a full fisking of the piece on her blog at the time; she thought Berkeley simply ignored the subtle signs Kashawn’s high school was sending, and took his GPA at face value. At any rate, you will search Streeter’s article in vain for a hint of Kashawn’s SAT or ACT scores: if they had been even marginally acceptable for Berkeley, Streeter would have put them front row, center.

    Now I see, with the current Chancellor’s announcement, that Berkeley is soon to have lots of Kashawns who can’t write a simple essay, even after a year of basic composition at the college level. At this rate, how long can Mr. Jefferson’s university hold out?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  18. Moses says:
    @Andy

    Elite universities like Berkeley are obviously not going to let any moron in.

    Why not? If open borders are good for America, open borders are good for Berkeley too.

    • Replies: @Pincher Martin
  19. Anonymous[298] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m sick and tired of all the framing of whites and East Asians as allies. I’ve only ever seen them hang around in their little parasitical groups and vote against white interests.

    • Agree: houston 1992, Rosie, Lurker, Alden
    • Replies: @Icy Blast
  20. Meanwhile the Chinese are teaching their language to Africans instead of Whitey teaching his:

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @bomag
    , @AnotherDad
  21. Jamie_NYC says:

    We are moving toward a society in which “equal opportunity” is going to be replaced by “equal outcomes,”

    This is complete nonsense, and is the core reason why we are losing the fight against the left. I won’t speculate what the real aim of the left is, but “equality of outcome” manifestly isn’t their goal. For example, does anyone on the left ever mention that men die earlier than women? That blacks dominate most professional sports? That there is huge disparity in sentencing for the same crimes, favoring women? That for several decades women earn majority of university degrees?

    No, none of the above is *ever* mentioned by anyone on the left. So how can “equality of outcome” be their goal? They care about equality of outcome as much as the Bolsheviks cared about the rights of workers and peasants. But people on the right are not able to comprehend any of this. Instead, they take everything at face value, and mock Bernie’s proposal to cap interest rates on credit card balances, for example. “That would actually hurt the poor who won’t be able to get credit cards!” You fools, he knows that! But what he also knows is that the poor sap won’t blame Bernie when he cannot get the credit card, he’ll blame ‘greedy banks’.

    That’s why we are losing.

    • Replies: @Matthew Kelly
    , @res
    , @Rosie
    , @Alden
  22. Altai [AKA "Altai_4"] says:

    Just as Steve has acknowledged the logic of hate crime laws, to specifically penalise potential triggers of inter-ethnic violence, does he not accept that laws to ensure ethnic and racial representation in the educated classes are a kind of power-sharing arrangement that are inevitable in all multi-ethnic societies?

    • Replies: @GodHelpUs
    , @Rosie
  23. @Moses

    They think it’s good for you, but not for them. They don’t need to be re-educated. You do.

    Look at places like Malibu and Marin County. I was driving through San Rafael (which is in Marin County) last year and I saw a church with a large sign on it supporting migrant rights and open borders, and I thought “Yet this is the last place the people in Marin County would ever let migrants settle.”

    • Replies: @Ripple Earthdevil
  24. Global Citizen [AKA "Moonbeam"] says:

    Obviously, use the Pokeman hierarchy of oppression.

    Grades are a type of normalization across populations.

    Woke AI that is nonbiased. That’s a joke of course.

    Payoffs. Athletic children. Personality. Randomization. Creativity. Finger painting. Gender. Race. Physical handsome/beauty for associative mating. Intelligence.

    Ability to bullshit is very important.

    Best of all: Student’s future earning and donation potential.

  25. @Redneck farmer

    Maybe at some point schools like Berkeley will tire of their thug scholars and get more meritocratic.

  26. Anon[225] • Disclaimer says:

    Racial communism. ………..I typed that here as a prediction about 10 years back. I wish I was wrong about it, but that sure seemed where the lefties wanted to go, insisting equal academic gifts were bestowed on every demographic group. Outcome seemed inevitable, once the results didnt pan out, just declare sexism, homophobia, religious prejudice or racism and reward grades, promotions, jobs, and honors on a demographic basis.
    Seems to be their wish anyway.

    • Replies: @Hail
  27. Abe says:

    On a related note, Washington State narrowly defeated the bill to re-introduce quotas and affirmative action- by 15,000 votes, less than 1%. The public face of the anti-quota campaign was a bunch of Asian-American women , so given the tiny margin of decision one could honestly say that a bunch of 105 lb. Tiger Moms are braver, more forthright, and more effective than just about all other “non-bozo” conservative politicians (i.e. Mitt Romney)

    • Agree: Kronos
    • Replies: @Lugash
  28. Kronos says:

    Oh please, Christ stated that the poor would always be with us. (That can be interpreted to mean many types of poverty that includes cognitive as well as financial.) It’s far better to bring back/keep good paying manufacturing jobs for the less fortunate. This education game is pointless, painful, and self-defeating.

    • Agree: Travis
  29. @Andy

    Elite universities like Berkeley are obviously not going to let any moron in. They are not going to ruin their own brand. So with what they plan to replace the SAT/ACT?

    The University of California may institute a “top 10 percent” rule, like Texas, where the top 10 percent of a California high school class would receive automatic admission to the UC college of their choice.

    UC Berkeley already has a program that automatically admits the valedictorian and salutatorian from high schools that do not traditionally send students to UC Berkeley. The Los Angeles Times profiled a salutatorian who attended Berkeley under this program, Kashawn Campbell. There has been no indication that he ever graduated.

    https://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-c1-cal-freshmen-20130816-dto-htmlstory.html

    It was only a couple of years ago that UC Berkeley required that 80 percent of athletic recruits have a minimum 3.0 high school GPA.

    Currently, he said, between 50 and 62 percent of football players are admitted despite having a GPA below 3.0. Papadopoulos did not have similar figures for men’s basketball.

    He stressed that each sport must meet the requirements on its own, and that all of the “exceptions” cannot be lumped into football or basketball.

    “Everybody is confident that it can be done, provided we focus our recruiting on a national level, not only in the few states we are currently recruiting,” Papadopoulos said. “We will have to re-calibrate the way we do recruiting.”

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2014/10/29/80-percent-of-cal-recruits-must-have-3-0-gpa-by-2017-18/

  30. @Jamie_NYC

    Correct you are, though I would guess these things aren’t being said more because anyone who points out the genuine MO of the left is quickly silenced.

    Beyond that, the other problem with this statement:

    We are moving toward a society in which “equal opportunity” is going to be replaced by “equal outcomes,”

    …is that this has been self-evident for a long time now, and we aren’t “moving toward” it–we’ve been there for awhile.

    Anyway, all the cool kids have been relegated to Tor. I don’t expect much sagacity from the likes of the Twitterati.

  31. As a couple of commenters have already pointed out, this is just moving the starting field position after a touchback about 15 yards. Important, but not a game-changer.

    Instead of a student body with 8% dead weight, perhaps now it will be 20%, give or take.

    The extra 12% dead weight will be delighted to get in.

    The 80% who get in based on merit (or legacy) won’t mind: They’re in! And now there’s less competition. Win – win!

    The kids who get squeezed out by the charity cases? Sour grapes, assuming they can even deduce they’ve been unfairly passed over (“Maybe it was the essay? Did I volunteer enough? Not enough extracurriculars?”).

    And next time, they’ll move the ball up the field a little more…

    • Replies: @Kronos
  32. Our betters rule via credentials. This is how they will control who will get those credentials.

  33. res says:
    @Alice

    If you follow the links from this comment there is a fair amount of discussion about Cal admissions circa 2005 along with references.
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/are-achievement-gaps-related-to-discipline-gaps/#comment-3517187

  34. res says:
    @Jamie_NYC

    I think you are conflating two things.

    1. Equality of outcome vs. equality of opportunity
    2. Areas where favored groups (who) do worse/better than disfavored groups (whom)

    The left has focused on who/whom for a long time (which I think was your point). The transition from equality of opportunity to equality of outcome has been more recent.

  35. Christ Opposes Use of SAT / ACT

    Cheap Grace

  36. @South Texas Guy

    Trump, if I’m not mistaken, went to Penn. for undergrad, and then Wharton for an MBA. To me those are equivalent levels of attainment.

    Trump has a BS degree from Wharton, which is quite different from their MBA.

    Hillary has a J.D. from Yale Law School. Credentials aside, I believe that Hillary is vastly smarter than Trump, but she’s also vastly more evil, so that may be some kind of a wash. Not to mention that she did appear to get outsmarted by him in November 2016.

    All that aside, I agree with your general observations about credentialism. The mere possession of a bachelor’s degree (or even a graduate degree, now) means next to nothing. Slippery Rock and Princeton are separated by more than a few hundred miles.

    • Disagree: Desiderius
  37. @Andy

    “Elite universities like Berkeley are obviously not going to let any moron in. They are not going to ruin their own brand.”

    probably not, but Brown already has, so it’s not inconceivable that a few others follow. Yale is in the middle of this struggle already.

    Reed was never one of the best small colleges, but it’s been ruined by this stuff. Oberlin followed, then Vassar, and i’m sure a few more. they will fall like dominoes. now, the minor league colleges don’t matter in the grand scheme of things, but we’re at the point where the best small college in the world, Williams, is heading in this direction. which suggests that a few of the big, actually important universities, are possibly subject to this transition in the next 20 years, as the indoctrinated people who are 30 today, become the board of directors and presidents at 50.

    Williams has smarter students and better faculty than all of the big universities except for maybe the best 20 or so of them. if Williams can fall to Cultural Marxism, most of the private universities could. only public state universities would seem to be somewhat resistant to this stuff.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @BB753
  38. @Forbes

    herd of Barack Obama

    [shudders]

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Forbes
  39. jcd1974 says:

    I say it’s a good thing. The faster schools like UC Berkeley self-destruct the better!

  40. @South Texas Guy

    Trump has a BA from Penn (he spent 2 years an Fordham and transferred). No MBA–and who really cares?

  41. Anonymous[419] • Disclaimer says:

    I agree.

    Open admissions for Harvard and Yale and Ivies and all elite colleges. No more elitism.

    Best way to bring down the ivory towers, the source of so many woes.
    And at least

  42. OT: Donate to the Salvation Army. At least through the kettles. I know more than most about charities, not all by a long stretch, but most. They do good work. I’ve been to the buildings, seen the success stories, seen the people running it, volunteers and whatnot. That Chik Fil A would hire a SJW for a chief is beyond me.

    You don’t win by being a pussy, and Chik was winning, and now my business to them will be nonexistent. In and Out Burger puts a Bible verse on their cups (not sure if it’s just cups), and they do land office business.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  43. @Triumph104

    here’s the thing, good buddy–it doesn’t really matter if Harvard admits 99% blacks because international businesses in globally competitive markets won’t hire them–they’ll gladly take Billy Bob from U Texas or Billy Lee from U Maryland over “Harvard”-educated dopes like Obama and Deval (I flunk bars) Patrick. And, quite frankly, any moron could tell you that Harvard’s brand is going south south south. LOL.

    • Replies: @Ed
  44. Global Citizen [AKA "Moonbeam"] says:

    Denying actual fairness has consequences, like suicide. (I knew an older kid who actually committed suicide because he was not admitted to a big time dum ass college. Was he blocked due to cis male YT? The college admissions thing is sick.)

    Maybe the selectivity of the overall suicide epidemic is a feature for our elite. I just watched this. Remember, the goal is an atomized sick populace, especially if they are deplorable. The college admissions rat race is just another way to drive people nuts. The actual crazy pill hate you atmosphere of the college environment is evil defined.)

    https://www.infowars.com/the-truth-about-suicide/

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  45. J.Ross says:

    Beck (who always seemed to be exactly the kind of smart to trick himself into staying in a bad situation) has announced that he is not a Scientologist, fifteen years after announcing that he was.
    The good news is, we’re no longer in the days when this would be like announcing that you had evidence regarding Hillary Clinton and then getting on a plane or lifting some weights.

  46. My mistake about the Wharton thing. I guess it was Ivanka. But I believe my point still stands. Sheepskins are bullshit. Sure, he got his start from his dad, but then again, didn’t Hillary get her start from her husband. (And notice how all of the anti-Hillary stuff from TV types from 2008 got scrubbed).

    But yes, thanks for the

    No MBA–and who really cares?

    .

    There’s a hell of a difference between learning something and getting your ticket punched. I mean if you went to the Harvard school of Auto Mechanics and stilll couldn’t fix a car, your degree would be worthless. But, go to Harvard and get a degree in history with an impact in female empowerment that would be different. And the difference is the ability to bullshit what you’re talking about. One has to perform, the other doesn’t.

    BTW: I’m aware the ‘impact in feminist study’ is likely bullshit, but a good movie is coming on and I’m rushed for time. Thanks for your reply, Meretricious.

  47. @Alice

    I was wondering about that because I remember reading a book about the US military years ago in a bookstore and the author interviewed a submarine guy who went there and was working on nuclear reactors who said that Cal-Berkeley was really two distinct campuses combined into one.

    That the STEM people at Berkeley were very similar to their counterparts at other elite science focused universities like MIT, Stanford, Caltech, Illinois, etc… whereas everyone else was effectively attending another university and that you could see the differences geographically on campus, with the STEM people separated from the humanities/social science types by physical distance as well as field(s) of study.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Thomas
  48. Alec says:
    @Andy

    Isn’t their “brand” already asian grinds and diversity admits?

  49. Kronos says:
    @Patrick in SC

    The kids who get squeezed out by the charity cases? Sour grapes, assuming they can even deduce they’ve been unfairly passed over (“Maybe it was the essay? Did I volunteer enough? Not enough extracurriculars?”).

    Mark my words, there’ll be hell to pay by Asians of the future. It twenty years they’ll be nasty and vindictive and many currently untouchable groups will pay for this slight.

    It’ll be Middle-Upper class Asian “Jokers” that’ll strike back.

    • Replies: @bomag
  50. Anon[331] • Disclaimer says:

    We can expect more Kashawn Campbells going forward:

    South L.A. student finds a different world at UC Berkeley
    Kashawn Campbell overcame many obstacles to become a straight-A student. But his freshman year at Berkeley shook him to the core.

    https://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-c1-cal-freshmen-20130816-dto-htmlstory.html

    He was a straight-A student at Jefferson High. His SAT score is never mentioned. Jefferson High in Great Schools:

    – Test scoress 2/10, “very concerning,” 8% math, 30% English proficiency

    – Equity overview: “Disadvantaged students at this school may be falling far behind other students in the state, and this school may have large achievement gaps”

    – 88% Hispanic, 10% black, under 1% white

    Back to the L.A. Times:

    His teachers and his classmates at Jefferson High all rooted for the slight and hopeful African American teenager. He was named the prom king, the most likely to succeed, the senior class salutatorian. He was accepted to UC Berkeley, one of the nation’s most renowned public universities.

    A semester later, Kashawn Campbell sat inside a cramped room on a dorm floor that Cal reserves for black students. It was early January, and he stared nervously at his first college transcript.

    There wasn’t much good to see.

    He had barely passed an introductory science course. In College Writing 1A, his essays — pockmarked with misplaced words and odd phrases — were so weak that he would have to take the class again.

    He had never felt this kind of failure, nor felt this insecure. The second term was just days away and he had a 1.7 GPA. If he didn’t improve his grades by school year’s end, he would flunk out.

    On a nearby desk lay a small diary he recently filled with affirmations and goals. He thumbed through it.

    “I can do this! I can do this!” he had written. “Let the studying begin! … It’s time for Kashawn’s Comeback!”

    All the adults in his life kept him in the dark that he just wasn’t college material. He ends up at Berkeley (running up loans?), and the rubber hits the road. How soon until even Berkeley starts to coddle these retards and gives them degrees?

    The article goes on to tell us that he was born blue with the umbillical cord noosed around his neck.

    [MORE]

    At Jefferson, a long essay took a page and perfect grades came after an hour of study a night.

    At Cal, he could barely keep afloat.

    Seeking help, he went at least once a week to the office of his writing instructor, Verda Delp.

    The more she saw him, the more she worried. His writing often didn’t make sense. He struggled to comprehend the readings for her class and think critically about the text.

    “It took awhile for him to understand there was a problem,” Delp said. “He could not believe that he needed more skills. He would revise his papers and each time he would turn his work back in having complicated it. The paper would be full of words he thought were academic, writing the way he thought a college student should write, using big words he didn’t have command of.”

    Delp reviewed his record: None of his essays had been good enough to receive passing grades.

    I elided the part where she caught him cheating but did nothing about it.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @nier
  51. J.Ross says:
    @South Texas Guy

    I thought CFA did a last-minute reversal?

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
  52. GodHelpUs says:
    @Altai

    SAT and ACT are basically IQ tests. If one race has a standard deviation advantage in IQ over the other then that race will be significantly over represented in higher education, especially in the most difficult fields which are also the only ones that reliably lead to career track employment instead of dead end service sector jobs.

    If the less intelligent race is given a leg up into universities they are not qualified for then they will be funneled into the least rigorous majors such as the various grievance studies pseudo disciplines. The career prospects for these students are abysmal. Even worse, they incur new car-sized debts for the privilege of four years of partying and a crippling miseducation. The best hope for these wretches is to ride the D.I.E. industry as far as it will take them.

    Is this equity?

    Notice that I have not mentioned any particular races yet. That one standard deviation is the gap between blacks and whites but it also exists between whites and Jews. Asians are half a standard deviation above whites. Do we also need to handicap Asians and Jews for the sake of Diversity and Inclusion and Equity? Ron Unz showed that Harvard is around 20% Jewish. Do we need to cut them down to 2% so that more Latinxes and Black Bodies can attend?

    If we good thinking whites say no, will the blacks and mestizos say yes if they become demographically dominant?

    Is this still equity?

  53. @South Texas Guy

    And again, many, many, gov’t jobs at state, local, and federal level only require a degree.

    Margaret Spellings only has a BA in political science from the University of Houston. With that credential she has been US Secretary of Education and President of the University of North Carolina 17 campus system.

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
  54. @Triumph104

    The University of California may institute a “top 10 percent” rule, like Texas, where the top 10 percent of a California high school class would receive automatic admission to the UC college of their choice.

    Is that why Austin’s p0pulation has grown twelvefold since the (last declared) war?

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
  55. Hail says: • Website
    @Anon

    The paper would be full of words he thought were academic, writing the way he thought a college student should write, using big words he didn’t have command of.”

    Paging Dr. Ta Nehisi.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  56. Dr. X says:
    @Alice

    Exactly. You’ve nailed it.

    Community colleges figured out this trick decades ago. They have open admissions and thus do not require the SAT or ACT, so they let anybody in the door, but not into programs like nursing and radiology and dental hygiene, which have a separate application process and very objective standards. Graduates of these programs will have no problem getting a job. They advertise their brand based on the prestige these programs, which admit a limited number of students — and lose money. Meanwhile, 75% of the student body is taking remedial classes that do not actually earn credit, but the college makes a lot of money from them.

    You’e going to see prestigious four-years schools do the same thing — offer admissions to unqualified minorities, who will register for easy classes in African-American Studies and Phys Ed (and not graduate), but there will be a separate internal admissions program for the engineering program, the physics program, etc.

    In fact, a number prestigious four-year schools already do this with their athletes.

  57. @Mr McKenna

    1) Trump is a shallow thinker who acts on impulse and pique , but sometimes his instincts are spot on eg how he so easily vested Jeb! Etc for the nomination, and defeated Hillary.

    Trump thinks that he can bluff well, but in reality his bluff is often called eg Iran knows he dare not start a war and watch oil hit $200. But he excels at calling bluffs when he commits to making such a call.
    If is hard to put an exact finger on his bluff-calling with the Jewish community eg moving the embassy to Jerusalem, recognizing WBank settlements. He called out the deception and self deception that the bulk of J community indulge in with these acts —will they call for cutting back aid to Israel ? A serious tilt to the Palestinians ? Of course not —so he called out that liberal charade bluff

    2) when did Hillary ever make a great decision ? When from Arkansas to the secretive Hillarycare with Ira Schiller, from voting for war with Iraq in 2003, accepting SoS position and hitting Libya Syria South Yemen ….do these demonstrate any practical IQ ?

  58. In all seriousness, Berkeley is a public school, they should admit anyone who wants to pay tuition. Open market. They don’t owe students good grades, but a person has the money and wants to try taking a class, regardless of race, sure go ahead. This would kill the prestige of admission, and that’s a good thing.

    We should have more tests, more measurement, and more stats. If you play baseball, collect a ton of stats on your baseball playing. If you pursue math or any academic pursuit, collect stats on your ability and aptitude. The SAT/ACT doesn’t deserve some monopoly on tests and would have no purpose with no exclusive undergrad admission.

    • Replies: @George
  59. @Hail

    I already explicated and complicated your elucidations, bee-yotch!
    What more you want??

  60. @GodHelpUs

    Greetings Fellow White Person!

    Ron Unz showed that Harvard is around 20% Jewish. Do we need to cut them down to 2% so that more Latinxes and Black Bodies can attend?

    No, we simply cut out all the white goyim, except for a few athletes.
    Already done, whaddya know!

    • Replies: @GodHelpUs
  61. @Houston 1992

    If is hard to put an exact finger on his bluff-calling with the Jewish community

    Trump got bent over seriously by what you call “the Jewish community” and has absolutely nothing to show for it, except imminent impeachment.

    2) when did Hillary ever make a great decision ?

    When she waltzed into a prime sinecure, namely the office of Senator from New York, which is a cushy job with tremendous visibility, which she could have kept for life without lifting a finger, and which provided her with a spectacular platform from which to take potshots at her many enemies, which is just about her favorite thing to do.

    But the rest is history, because her vanity and naked ambition outweigh her intelligence.

    • Replies: @houston 1992
    , @bigdicknick
  62. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @dearieme

    Yeah, but how much more expensive is being a foreign student at Oxbridge than an in-state tuition-paying student at Berkley? Isn’t a draw of elite state schools(especially for immigrant tiger-parents) their reduced sticker price?

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  63. “If it is still like that, letting in more lower IQ students is just setting them up for flunking out.”

    The solution to that is obviously to equalize the curriculum.

  64. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @Unladen Swallow

    Isn’t this already the case in every university with large STEM and humanities contingents? STEM majors spend all their time with lectures, labs, programming assignments, and problem sets, while the humanities students have the luxury of time to stir up trouble.

    • Agree: houston 1992
  65. Hail says: • Website
    @Anon

    Racial communism. ………..I typed that here as a prediction about 10 years back. I wish I was wrong about it

    Anonymous wrote on March 10, 2010:

    Every single disparity is framed in this way, and all are of course due to racism.

    They are ‘racial communists’. Whatever you have, I get to have just as much, and if I don’t, the situation is racist.

    My declaration of the liberal (and Obama-ite) goal of “Racial Communism” does not seem so far fetched does it?

    Also later an article title by David Cole:

    Racial Communism, ‘Zeitgesit’ column, Takimag, Aug. 22, 2017 (immediately after the Charlotesville incident).

    But Cole uses it pretty differently, as here:

    This is the Richard Spencer path—to bring whites down to the level of black SJWs with their “ethnic pride” clothing and hairstyles. If the purpose of communism was to make everyone equally poor by pulling the wealthy and capable down to the level of the lazy and indigent, Spencer’s brand of “racial communism” is all about bringing whites down to the level of the most pathetic, identity-obsessed SJWs

    • Replies: @Charon
  66. Daniel H says:

    This is good. We should encourage this as a trend. What did the smart Chinaman Sun Tzu say? “Never interfere with your enemy when he is destroying himself.”

    Berkeley et. al are our enemies. They are irredeemabley so. We have lost the battle for these institutions, so it is in our interest to see these powerful institutions destroyed. They will always only be our enemies. We must demand that Harvard, Yale, Princeton et. al. adopt the same policy.

  67. Charon says:
    @Hail

    David Cole vs Richard Spencer.
    A Choice from hell!

    Idk, mud wrestling mebbe?

  68. LA Times’ Teresa Watanabe inspires two replies from Richard Ebright of Rutgers (who opposes affirmative action, and whose Twitter pic looks vaguely Asian):

    “Watanabe” is used in the old country to mean a generic Japanese, kind of like John Q Public here. Ebright is the highest point in Delaware.

    Kashawn Campbell = A black man whelps.

    Chancellor Carol Christ = Chill, arch-scrotal crone.

  69. Whiskey says: • Website

    Seen Harvard’s new student government? All ghetto Black save a budding Kardashian.

    Thats the future of universities in the West. White men are hosed.

  70. AnonAnon says:
    @Triumph104

    The UCs already guarantee admission if you are in the top 9% of students in the state. You are admitted to *a* UC, not necessarily the one of your choice. Moreover, if you are in the top 9% of the students at your high school it’s called Eligible in Local Context (ELC) and is a big boost to your application. Luckily for California kids the top CSUs start coming into play after the top four or five UCs (Cal, UCLA, UCSD, UCSB, UCD/UCI).

    https://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/admission-requirements/freshman-requirements/california-residents/statewide-guarantee/

  71. GodHelpUs says:
    @Houston 1992

    Hillary Clinton is very smart but very foolish. If she were stupid she could never have committed the sort of mayhem that she is responsible for.

    One of the 2016 email leaks that didn’t get very much press coverage was of Colin Powell. He said that Hillary “fucks everything up with her hubris”. Sums it up nicely.

    • Agree: Houston 1992, sayless
    • Replies: @Houston 1992
  72. @Triumph104

    His Faceberg and LinkedIn profiles imply that he did graduate.

    • Replies: @Hail
  73. Kaz says:
    @Cloudbuster

    Many 2nd+ generation asians in the US don’t speak their ‘mother’ tongue and are nearly entirely disconnected from their homelands.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    , @Jack Henson
  74. Hail says: • Website
    @Triumph104

    There has been no indication that he ever graduated.

    There is an active Facebook profile for a Kashawn Campell which lists the following:

    UC Berkeley
    Class of 2016 · Theater

    Thomas Jefferson High School
    Class of 2012 · Los Angeles, California
    – Debate

    Los Angeles, California
    Current city

    Los Angeles, California
    Hometown

    ABOUT KASHAWN
    My mother is my everything. She has worked hard for me, and I will retire her in return.

    FAVORITE QUOTES
    “the best index to a persons character is a) how he treats those who can’t do him any good and b) how he treats those who can’t fight back” -Abigail Van Buren

    FAVORITES

    Music
    Drake

    Books
    Pride and Predjudice [sic]

    Movies
    Sinister

    Television
    WWF (wrestling)

    Games
    Mortal Kombat: Armageddon

    Athletes
    John Cena

    Sports Teams
    Los Angeles Lakers

    ____________

    LinkedIn profile:

    Kashawn Campbell
    Faith, family, & focus!
    Los Angeles, California
    500+ connections

    Experience

    Primerica
    Independent Represenative [sic]

    Jun 2014 – Oct 2019 (5 years 5 months)

    Commerce, California

    Leading provider in term life insurance. Helping Main Street families become financially independent. Contact me today for free information on how we can help you.

    His Facebook implies that he graduated (“Berkeley Class of 2016”), but his LinkedIn implies he dropped out about spring 2014 semester and started with this Primerica.

  75. @Mr McKenna

    1)Trump has, revealed however inadvertently, that Jewish “liberalism” means nothing when Jewish interests are directly at stake. Much of the COTF is noticing.

    2)Hillary could have become prez of Harvard in 2000. It is a massive hedge fund that also doubles as a credential issuing center. The Clintons could have grifted all the money that they might need for the 100 generations from that position. She could have avoided an Iraq war vote and then truly waltzed into the WH in 2004 without the taint of that Iraq war vote.
    Hillary’s decisions on Syria, Libya, Yemen reveal a woman of poor judgment.

    In 19993-1994, she could easily have achieved an expanded Medicare bill, but she went all secretive, and got out flanked by such deep thinkers as Rush Limbaugh and the Stupid party, and ushered in a Republican House of Reps

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
    • Replies: @HammerJack
  76. GodHelpUs says:
    @Mr McKenna

    The anti-Jewish vitriol is manna for the converted but turns away everyone who might otherwise be receptive to these ideas. Showing how the identity politics dogma will eventually be used against groups other than whites is the most effective way to build a coalition that could actually stop the brewing cultural revolution before it descends into Maoist Red Guard level violence. If it does come to that, you had better hope you were on the right side of God when it mattered. If not, your punishment will be more than you can bear. This is a warning we would all do well to heed.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  77. AnonAnon says:

    I suspect the rest of the UCs will trend towards the UCI model now – European whites under 10%. UCI seems to admit high stats Asians, a few high stats whites, and a good number of hispanics- UCI is an official Hispanic-serving institution.

    By this time the UCs have enough data from California high schools that they know which ones send strong students and which do not. They have their own system for determining whether your high school honors course is what they consider true honors-level work. I also agree with the above commenters that they’ll preserve most of the standards for their marquee programs – they already require SAT Subject tests for engineering and other hard sciences.

  78. This reminds me of an old joke.

    One day a high school senior, name of Charlie Schumer, found his way in to a confessional.

    “Father, I have to tell you. It was unbelievable. I met two young women, hot to trot if you know what I mean. We got together, and I still can’t believe it happened. Also I got a perfect score math SAT.”

    “Er…well, alright son. Say seven Hail Marys and an Our Father.”

    “Aw, no, Father. Our people, we don’t do that.”

    “Then I don’t understand, son. Why are you telling me this?”

    “Telling you? I’m telling everyone!”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  79. MattinLA says:
    @Andy

    You sure about that? I’m not. These nuts are flat out psycho. More importantly, they get paid no matter what.

  80. If Christ is against it, who can be for it?

    • LOL: Desiderius
  81. @Mr McKenna

    Slippery Rock and Princeton

    Oddly enough, I’ve lived in both. Well, Grove City, which is a stone’s throw from Slippery Rock.

    More in common than one might think.

  82. Steve,

    Thanks for the tip on Ford vs Ferrari. Another great flick.

    The movie First Man should have been. Loved the Ben Hogan (the perfect round/lap) father/son scene, the homage to the Unsheathing the Lawnchair meme (the wife doing the honors), the Wormtongue and Theoden subplot. Final scene brought to mind Saving Private Ryan now that Damon is approaching the older version himself.

    Damon channeling Tommy Lee Jones was funny.

  83. @Cagey Beast

    Meanwhile the Chinese are teaching their language to Africans instead of Whitey teaching his:

    They already know ours.

  84. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Our priest told a version of this joke to open his sermon a few months ago. It actually was germane. But the Jew in question was old and married, and it was his first cheat.

    The seminaries in Kerala must have a big reference book of humor to draw upon. Or maybe it’s an e-mail list. Every Indian priest I’ve seen does this, and most of the jokes are quite good.

  85. nier says:
    @Anon

    exactly, if someone can’t pass SAT test, are they going to magically be able to pass all the exams in university courses?

    • Replies: @Flip
  86. @J.Ross

    You may be right. The pushback was immediate, but I’ve been laid up ill for the past couple of days.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  87. Hail says: • Website
    @Alexander Turok

    That is not my reading of his LinkedIn. He was working full time as of June 2014 in Commerce, California, which is Los Angeles County, ergo, not commuting distance from Berkeley.

    I read that to mean he dropped out, or was asked to leave, during or after Spring 2014 semester at Berkeley. Or earlier.

    The Facebook account with “Class of 2016” may have been added in 2012 or 2013 (forward looking towards expected graduation) and never updated.

    • Agree: Lot
    • Replies: @Ed
    , @Lot
  88. Anon[331] • Disclaimer says:

    I stumbled across this from 2013 in the New York Times by a former UC Berkeley admissions part-time staffer:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/04/education/edlife/lifting-the-veil-on-the-holistic-process-at-the-university-of-california-berkeley.html

    UCB uses the concept of “stressors,” “socioeconomic disadvantages that admissions offices can use to increase diversity,” in admissions, which rocket not-so-bright students to the top of the heap. Stressors do not explicitly include race or sex. AP classes are ignored because some schools don’t offer them. Extracurricular activities? “In holistic review, [our highly qualified, 2300 SAT] student needed more extracurricular activities and engineering awards to be ranked.” But on the other hand, another student may “not be able to afford” extracurricular activities, so doesn’t get docked. So I guess they just screw the non-poor students either way.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  89. Anon[325] • Disclaimer says:

    Odd comments in Kashawn Campbell article. Kid’s work was filled with big words ‘he didn’t have command of.’ His rewritten essays showed ‘too much work by someone else.’ In other words, this guy was massively faking an academic English vocabulary, and then when caught, he conned someone to someone to rewrite his failing work entirely. Kid should be kicked out. If you can’t even begin to do academic work, you’re not suited for college. Something is wrong here. A straight-A student in high school generally has strong enough English skills than academic English isn’t going to throw them for a loop. In this case, I wonder if the kid was getting someone to do his high school work as well. It’s very odd to fail college so completely if you got straight As in high school.

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
  90. @GodHelpUs

    Thanks for that.
    Hillary tends to wreck everything : rose law firm, 1994 health care reform when she had the wind and the media at her back, Iraq Syria Libya , the 2016 race/ first against Sanders and then Donald.

    Steve has estimated Obama’s IQ off his HS rank, Nixon’s IQ off his third place at Duke law school.
    But what about Hillary’s?

  91. @Reg Cæsar

    Is that why Austin’s p0pulation has grown twelvefold since the (last declared) war?

    It’s not so much that the college has grown. It’s been really big for a long time. It’s that it’s also Texas’ tech hub, the seat of gov’t, and has an active social life for people under 40. Also, nearby lakes, recreational rivers, scenery add to the appeal.

    Way back when, in the 90s, it was easy for my buddies and me to find convenient parking just off the main drag off campus. I would imagine that isn’t nearly the case now.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  92. Anon[325] • Disclaimer says:

    If a school like Berkeley does drop ACT/SAT, there’s only one reason why. They want to de-Asian the place. Going by test scores alone means they have a huge Asian presence, and they want to reduce that number. Asians have one big stroke against them at US colleges. They’re lousy donors after they graduate. That’s why colleges aren’t keen on them.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Barnard
    , @Coburn
  93. @Triumph104

    Margaret Spellings only has a BA in political science from the University of Houston. With that credential she has been US Secretary of Education and President of the University of North Carolina 17 campus system.

    That would go a long way towards explaining why the NC uni system regularly makes news for being a screwed up college system.

    Other than the federal judiciary, college campuses (especially the administration) are the most screwed up part of our country. That’s even counting the news media and Hollywood.

  94. @Hail

    Thanks. I didn’t know about Kashawn’s Facebook. I doubt he graduated. Looks like he left Primerica last month. I wonder what he is doing now. Hope he is ok. Good job catching the typos. His Facebook says he is a fan of “WWF (wrestling)”, but the name was changed to WWE in 2001 when Kashawn was about seven years old.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    , @Dave Pinsen
  95. @Anon

    Has anybody seen research on who donates? Colleges must have researched this question a lot, but for some reason it doesn’t seem to have been publicized much.

    My small sample size impression is that Indians are more generous than Chinese.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  96. @Anon

    Jefferson HS is notorious for black vs. Mexican race riots. It would be my guess as the worst high school in Los Angeles. This kid probably got good grades in high school because he is a good person who made his teachers’ jobs easier rather than harder like most everybody else did.

  97. @Anon

    Berkeley admissions officers have been quoted a number of times–on and (mostly) off the record–declaring that no matter what the law is, they’ll prosecute their vision of affirmative action however they see fit. How accurate and definitive is that? I’ve really no idea, and the flood of Asian admits after the AA legal tangle a few years back would seem to contradict it.

    Looking further into this topic, I found this gem in reader comments:

    No one has ever wasted time (stereo)typing me as a wimp. Nevertheless, with an Amy Chua of my own only thinly masking (her) contempt while ostensibly trying to encourage me before the age of ten by class(ify)ing me as “garbage, “lazy,” “useless,” and a host of other niceties (a savage, a juvenile delinquent, boring, common, low, completely ordinary, a barbarian) all the while forbidding me to sit on a toilet until I can play triplets in one hand against duolets in the other mechanistically en duo with a metronome might have (likely would have) set me up both for advanced training to climb The Texas Tower and chronic constipation.

    America’s future Ruling Class? We might be better off with the Jews after all.

  98. Rosie says:
    @Jamie_NYC

    That there is huge disparity in sentencing for the same crimes, favoring women?

    Muh biased courts!

  99. Rosie says:
    @Altai

    Just as Steve has acknowledged the logic of hate crime laws, to specifically penalise potential triggers of inter-ethnic violence, does he not accept that laws to ensure ethnic and racial representation in the educated classes are a kind of power-sharing arrangement that are inevitable in all multi-ethnic societies?

    Re hate crime laws. Wouldn’t it then make more sense to punish crimes against the majority at least as severely as crimes against minorities, given that the majority is potentially more dangerous than minorities?

    Yet they do the opposite, because hate crime laws are not about keeping the peace, but rather intimidating and suppressing the demoralized majority.

    does he not accept that laws to ensure ethnic and racial representation in the educated classes are a kind of power-sharing arrangement that are inevitable in all multi-ethnic societies?

    And this is an acknowledgment that diversity is a weakness.

    • Agree: sayless
  100. @Alice

    It’s only natural, with falling admissions standards, that “general admissions” policies will slowly get scrapped in favor of admission standards by major.

    In the UK, that’s what Oxbridge and other top universities have always had. Each college specifies minimum high-school leaving grades in A-level or International Baccalaureate exams, and students apply for admission to specific majors, with even more specific grade and subject distribution requirements for high-school leaving seniors.

    Our “garden of intellectual delights” approach to undergraduate education may fail, if said undergraduates are not actually interested in any of that stuff, and just want the system to bend to their will so they can get that diploma that will be an entry ticket to all the good things in life, like well-paying jobs.

    • Replies: @Anon
  101. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Triumph104

    5+ years selling insurance at Primerica is impressive if true. Most people wash out of life insurance sales after mining friends and family for business.

  102. George says:
    @Massimo Heitor

    To keep the system honest Berkley should offer their ‘educations’ using income share agreements that make the University free during the student’s education but require the student to pay a percentage of their salary while they are working. My guess is that under an income-share system Berkley will be very judicious as to who they accept, possibly coming up with a system better than the educational testing service SAT ACT tests.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_loans_in_the_United_States#Income_share_agreements

    Funding the entire state educational system with income share agreements would also make it easy to study the actual value of a UC Berkley education vs a community college vs 3 month Phlebotomy training.

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor
  103. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    A healthy society needs to firewall fields that deal with reality from this nonsense. Let the affirmative action admits get arts degrees and give some handful of them sinecures where they can’t do harm. But keep them out of science, engineering, medicine, etc.

  104. @Kronos

    But a lot of the less fortunate can’t do modern factory jobs.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  105. I wish Christ would just focus on selling jewellry.

    https://www.christ.de

  106. It’s not even a surprise anymore,

    We’re long passed shocked.

    Astonished is out of sight,

  107. BB753 says:
    @prime noticer

    The sooner the University racket blows off, the better! We don’t need more overeducated morons.

  108. Duke84 says:
    @Forbes

    That’s how David Hogg got into Harvard with only a 1270 on the SAT.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    , @Duke84
  109. SFG says:
    @Andy

    It’ll turn into a finishing school for the rich again, like it was before the SAT/ACT. Probably be more socially useful to the people going into it.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  110. Ed says:
    @Andy

    There has been scant evidence thus far that the guardians of academic institutions have the wherewithal to stand up to left wing agitators on any subject. Admission standards will fall as well after complaints of the schools aren’t reflective of California’s rich diversity.

    It wouldn’t surprise me that within 5 years all of UC’s schools adopt Brazil’s approach to affirmative action, which is a quota system.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-23862676

  111. Ed says:
    @Meretricious

    Harvard’s rep is just fine. Your comment is more wishful than reality.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    , @Meretricious
  112. Ed says:
    @Hail

    Didn’t want to click on his profile, is he still at Primerica?

    • Replies: @Hail
  113. Svevlad says:

    Nothing, the archonts see which way the wind is blowing, so they run all the universities into the ground to make way for their total abolishment – the future of education is much more personalized, while the future of research will be unconstrained by academic limitations.

    Everyone wins, apart from the academia apparatchiks

  114. El Dato says:

    Completely off-topic, but wow, there are really specialized books out there!

    Black LGBT Health in the United States: The Intersection of Race, Gender, and Sexual Orientation focuses on the mental, physical, and spiritual aspects of health, and considers both risk and resiliency factors for the Black LGBT population. Contributors to this collection intimately understand the associations between health and intersectional anti-Black racism, heterosexism, homonegativity, biphobia, transphobia, and social class. This collection fills a gap in current scholarship by providing information about an array of health issues like cancer, juvenile incarceration, and depression that affect all subpopulations of Black LGBT people, especially Black bisexual-identified women, Black bisexual-identified men, and Black transgender men. This book is recommended for readers interested in psychology, health, gender studies, race studies, social work, and sociology.

    Note from Wikipedia:

    SGL (“same gender loving”) is sometimes favored among gay male African Americans as a way of distinguishing themselves from what they regard as white-dominated LGBT communities.

    The only constant attribute of these communities is that they perpetually wish to self-relabel harder than remnants of the Ottoman empire.

  115. Realist says:

    Since Berkeley has established it academic excellence…its reputation is secure…no matter its stupid actions.

  116. Realist says:
    @South Texas Guy

    Science universities are vastly important for keeping the ball rolling. Uni’s that focused on liberal arts and social sciences screwed themselves over years ago.

    Agreed.

  117. “Christ opposes use of SAT/ACT”

    Well, if Christ opposes something, then we all should follow His lead. And that’s a no brainer.

  118. Alice says:
    @Anon

    A straight-A student in high school generally has strong enough English skills than academic English isn’t going to throw them for a loop. In this case, I wonder if the kid was getting someone to do his high school work as well. It’s very odd to fail college so completely if you got straight As in high school.

    This is not so any more. Outside of a few places in New England, US high schools, even the nominally high performing ones, are not teaching English to this caliber. They can’t because the teachers don’t know it. Schools dont teach spelling, handwriting, grammar, or vocabulary, let alone rhetoric. They don’t even teach synthetic phonics, so most kids can’t sound out words. The average student in high school doesn’t actually know how to read. Their achievement in language arts has not improved since 6th grade, and the average student in hs performs below the 95th percentile did in grade 3.

    Now the smarter kids can figure it out a bit, and muddle through, and if their parents help with homework or get them a zilion hours of SAT prep, they can learn how to form a logical, sequential argument on paper. But A students this does not make.

    The current A student in high school English is required to read no more than 3 books a semester at a level of writing of middle school or lower (e.g. Hunger Games.) She writes no essays, but turns in a diorama or a song or a youtube video. All of her written assignments are narratives about feelings, journals, perhaps a rap.

    Now translate that to a bad school where the teachers are black. the valedictorian of the school has no idea he lacks the skills because none of the adults in his life have them either. He can’t read. He can’t write. But he is charming and works hard. So they send him to Cal thinking he IS going to succeed there. when he fails they blame racism.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  119. Pericles says:
    @Andy

    Elite universities like Berkeley are obviously not going to let any moron in. They are not going to ruin their own brand.

    Princeton doesn’t seem to mind.

  120. Pericles says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Hillary has a J.D. from Yale Law School. Credentials aside, I believe that Hillary is vastly smarter than Trump

    I don’t. I don’t think Obama (Harbard Love Editor or sumfin) is smarter than Trump either. Though O at least seems to know his limitations.

  121. Pericles says:
    @GodHelpUs

    Showing how the identity politics dogma will eventually be used against groups other than whites is the most effective way to build a coalition

    That doesn’t seem to be working though. Not at all.

  122. @GodHelpUs

    If the less intelligent race is given a leg up into universities they are not qualified for then they will be funneled into the least rigorous majors such as the various grievance studies pseudo disciplines

    There are plenty of black physicians and nurse practitioners who have graduated medical school and passed state board examinations. At least that it the case in my state. On a purely competitive basis, probably less would get into medical schools.

    Similar arguments are going on in the UK where the Labour Party wants to break the stranglehold of the elite by mandating that the elite Universities of Oxford, Cambridge, and London accept a much higher percentage of students from “working class backgrounds”. (A Durham coalminer’s daughter was testifying before the US Congress just this week and claimed that her opportunities in life would have been more limited in Britain due to her working class accent.)

    Labour passed a motion at their annual party convention to make universities admit no more than 7% of students from fee paying secondary schools–however this proposal has now been watered down to just closing some tax loopholes for private schools. In its original form the policy would certainly make Labour unelectable.

    Labour also wants to ban unpaid internships, as these are alleged to be a way of giving a leg up to a young person from a wealthy family, when poorer people cannot afford to work for free to gain experience.

    https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Digital-Youth-Manifesto.pdf

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    , @jim jones
    , @Jack D
    , @Ed
  123. @houston 1992

    Critiquing Hillary’s judgement around these parts is truly shooting fish in a barrel!

  124. @Ed

    Yes and no. The entire Ivy League and peer institutions such as Stanford and Chicago are at risk of reputation decline, the more woke they get and the more marginal graduates they produce.

    Their ace in the hole is that everyone else is on the same trajectory, because any school that dares to diverge becomes targeted. MIT and Caltech may be the primary exceptions, simply because it’s harder to BS your way through sci-tech fields.

    But how long will that last?

  125. Anon[381] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan

    I was reading the blog of an engineering professor at a top Canadian university, and applicants had to apply to specific engineering submajors. It sounded really stressful, since you could only specify one, and each had a different number of openings, a different degree of popularity, and different admission standards. It’s like if you could only apply to one Ivy.

  126. @Hail

    The Holy Ghost manages a soccer team in England.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuno_Esp%C3%ADrito_Santo

    The question of who God the Father is working for remains a contentious one.

  127. overcame many obstacles to become a straight-A student. But his freshman year at Berkeley shook him to the core.

    I suspect most of those many obstacles were overcome by accommodating teachers and administrators. He was likely never stressed to achieve more than showing up and being a “good” kid.

  128. Anonymous[211] • Disclaimer says:

    OT, but just FYI: Goldman Sachs launches pronoun initiative.

    I work there and I saw the announcement. Trust me, it’s as embarrassing as it sounds.

  129. GodHelpUs says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Obviously there are smart blacks and dumb Jews, but intelligence is normally distributed (ie, on a bell curve) and there is no way around that. The differences in median IQ mean that the intelligence of the average black person is broadly similar to the average white person but the differences at the margins are enormous.

    For example, 1 in 2 whites has an IQ over 100 while 1 in 3 blacks has that level of IQ. Significant but not overwhelming. But the proportion over IQ 130 (two standard deviations for whites but three for blacks) is 1 in 20 whites compared to 1 in 400 blacks. As you move further into the tails of the distribution the difference grows exponentially.

    So if we suppose that an IQ around 130 is required to thrive in a rigorous professional field, then we are left with 1 in 400 blacks, 1 in 20 whites, and 1 in 3 Jews.

    Nobody wanted this to be true but we have to reconcile ourselves with these facts that have remained stubbornly consistent despite decades of attempts to mitigate them. The more we encode anti-racism into our legal system, and the more we find the disparities failing to close, the more we are told that whites’ increasingly subconscious and self-suppressed racial biases are responsible for the same racial differences that are found in every multiracial society both today and in the past.

  130. eah says:

    Now I have to add the category junk academic administrator to my already existing category of junk academic — the latter is overwhelmingly female; the former will probably be as well.

    UCB is a public university and thus its funding is determined by legislation — in CA, the legislature is increasingly controlled by Hispanics — yet due to their lower test scores and a rising population of high(er) scoring Asians, broad affirmative action will be needed to reach anything like a proportional representation of Hispanics at UC — eliminating achievement tests like the SAT and ACT will make that easier.

    OT

    IU professor in trouble for wrongthink — in the video there is a screenshot of (a recent article on) unz.com.

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    , @Ed
    , @Paleo Liberal
  131. Mike1 says:
    @Mr McKenna

    People that think Trump is not smart are making a comment on their own intelligence.

  132. bomag says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Wish the Chinese luck.

    Our adventures there didn’t turn out so well.

  133. @Alice

    This has been the case in Texas for quite some time. While state law mandates that all public universities admit graduates in the top 10% of their HS class, most (eg UT-Austin, TAMU, Tech, UH) have higher standards for both undergrad engineering and business colleges within the university.

    If you look at the demographics of the engineering/business colleges, they are strikingly different than the other colleges. I’m sure the DIE bean counters will coming for them soon though

  134. @Mr McKenna

    I don’t know that anything will come of Trumpism, but he definitely changed the conversation and forced a political realignment. He has to,some degree made israel more of a partisan issue. When the right becomes explicitly pro-israel and the left becomes explicitly anti-israel a huge % of jews will switch parties. What happens after that is hard to say, but perhaps it will be positive and will impact the funding balance since democrats are funded by jewish money.

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  135. Barnard says:
    @Anon

    Any NAMs they let in at the expense of Asians are very unlikely to ever be in a position to make significant donations. I doubt those that are will give at higher rates than Asians. All these schools seem way too far gone to do anything to actively increase the percentage of the student body that is white.

    I think smaller alumni donations to colleges are going to drop off sharply in the next 10-15 years. The average college grad under 45 feels like they got ripped off already, they aren’t going to give money. After the Boomer nostalgia donations dry up many of these schools will be down to essentially selling access and prestige to the very wealthy.

  136. bomag says:
    @Kronos

    It’ll be… “Jokers” that’ll strike back

    Nah, too many other ways to succeed.

    Part of this is from the declining usefulness of a college degree to signal useful distinctions; it’s been watered down and has saturated the market; critics like to point out that professional educators can’t determine education levels in blind tests.

  137. Lugash says:
    @Abe

    The Tiger Moms are just doing what is normal, fighting for their offspring. Why would Mitt fight? His progeny are set. He has no affinity for his fellow whites, other than maybe some of his Magic Underwear comrades.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  138. @Pincher Martin

    Not entirely true, as long as the “migrants” can continue to be segregated into the largely Hispanic and poor Canal District in San Rafael.

    • Replies: @Pincher Martin
  139. @International Jew

    Exactly. This isn’t about the efficacy of the SAT/ACT. It’s about keeping up the school’s average SAT/ACT score for rankings while still allowing in the desired number of blacks and Hispanics.

    White and Asian kids will know that “test optional” doesn’t apply to them and will duly submit their scores. In due time, “test optional” will sweep the top schools, and we’ll all understand that average and percentile SAT/ACT scores for the school are for their white and Asian students.

  140. jim jones says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    My family were coal-miners in Durham but I do not constantly use it as an excuse for failing.

  141. @Steve Sailer

    My small sample size impression is that Indians are more generous than Chinese.

    Tao is a panda. Karma is a snake.

  142. @South Texas Guy

    Way back when, in the 90s, it was easy for my buddies and me to find convenient parking just off the main drag off campus.

    Now that is unusual. Parking has been atrocious at every campus I’ve visited. The few with adequate capacity made you walk a long, long way.

    They expanded the schools for all those kids born in the ’50s, but only a minority of us had cars. (We packed into others’ for break.) So they didn’t expand parking to match.

    Though fewer were born in the ’60s and ’70s, it seems that every last one drove to school. Often alone.

  143. Rosie says:
    @Lugash

    The Tiger Moms are just doing what is normal, fighting for their offspring.

    It is normal for Asian mothers, but it is not always normal for White mothers. Some white women have a certain platonic aversion to excessive ambition and acquisitiveness that is uncommon in Asian culture if I’m not mistaken. That is part of the reason why the Asian presence is so bothersome. If you have an exceptional child, you have two choices: tiger mothering against your own instincts or losing out to aliens.

  144. Flip says:
    @nier

    exactly, if someone can’t pass SAT test, are they going to magically be able to pass all the exams in university courses?

    Yes, if you take the right courses.

  145. Whiskey says: • Website

    Hmm so every White dudes in America not named Hunter Burden is screwed. Hmm …

    Wasn’t there a song? The Future Belongs To Me?

  146. The University was never meant to “educate” us.

    It was to make cultivated gentlemen (and later, ladies) out of us.

    People with whom other members of the same class could stand to associate with. People who all share the same basic fund of information: people who may not be able to translate Plato, but who know who he is; people who may not be up on the Ruthenian crisis, but who nevertheless (and never “nonetheless,” euccchh, what a horrible uncultivated buzzword) know who fought on which side in World War II; people who know what manners are; people who can’t do calculus but who know the difference between a percentage and a raw number, or that there is a difference between mean, median, and mode, though they might have to look it up.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  147. @South Texas Guy

    Trump has an undergrad degree from Wharton at Penn. Wharton has an undergrad program. Trump does not have an MBA.

  148. @Hail

    “Class of …” precisely means that one did not graduate, but was a member of the class whose graduating members would have received their degrees in that year. A relation of mine attended Harvard for all of two or three days in the 1850s, and was still given an obituary in the Harvard annuals as “of the Class of 1858”.

    On the other hand, I very much doubt that poor Kashawn would be aware of this practice, so who knows what he is trying to say.

  149. Tulip says:

    In the battle against white supremacy, its important for whites to recognize that they don’t do as well as Asians on standardized tests, and continued use of test scores make it appear that universities are systematical discriminating against Asians, when in fact they are just trying to fight racism and promote diversity.

    White people who are committed anti-racists need to oppose standardized tests in order to insure that their little Mozarts are not kept out of places like Berkeley by the yellow horde raised by Tiger Moms who “score better” on white supremacist tests than Mozart. Merit is just not who we are. Its all just an extension of Lothrop Stoddard’s pioneering work against racism and white supremacy.

    I’m sure the NYT will explain it all to us soon.

  150. @Anon

    Back in my day (late ’60s) Berkeley was famous for flunking out students who had whizzed through their public high schools but were not real UC material. They had to let in that top percentage, but they knew very well how to get rid of most of them after the first year or two.

    Many never recovered from the shock.

  151. @SFG

    When exactly was Berkeley a finishing school for the rich? Those of who were from well-off families certainly didn’t feel as though we dominated the place, least of all numerically.

    We did use it as a finishing school though – you’re right enough there.

    • Replies: @SFG
  152. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:

    James Bryant Conant, still pushing that right-wing agenda after all these years

    We have always been at war with Eastasian test scores

  153. J.Ross says:

    That wasn’t a foreshock tremor. CNN just acknowledged the truth of something it had been memory holing (or calling “debunked conspiracy theory”) for years. IG report soon. Comey Strzok Orr Brennan Clapper Ciamarella Schiff, and what empty chair? Don’t trust anybody, but maybe there really is a plan.

  154. @Anonymous

    As far as cost goes, for middle class students the Ivies are generally cheaper than state schools. Some of the better non-Ivies are also cheaper than state schools.

    And that includes California students. People from Cali have told me that middle class financial aid for private east coast schools are cheaper than for UC schools, even in state.

  155. Lurker says:
    @MEH 0910

    I have that on a t-shirt!

  156. sayless says:
    @Houston 1992

    ::when did Hillary ever make a great decision?:::

    Never. She married her way to the top. Horrible Secretary of State.

    Julian Assange’s assessment of her, She is a bright, connected, sadistic psychopath.

    White women were reamed out because most of us voted for Trump.— — I’m supposed to vote for this phreke because we’re both women?? Now I’m offended.

  157. Jack D says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    How many black physicians graduate at the top of their class? What % are in the bottom 10% of their class? Prof. Amy Wax says that black law students at Penn Law are almost all at the bottom of the class.

  158. @Kaz

    I don’t care. They can learn.

  159. Ed says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Need to quantify “plenty” because the AMA and others says there aren’t enough black doctors, in particular black males.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2019/02/28/medical-school-student-african-american-enrollment-black-doctors-health-disparity/2841925002/

    The proportion of medical students who identified as African-American or black rose from 5.6 percent in 1980 to 7.7 percent in 2016, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges. That’s a substantial increase but still short of the 13.2 percent in the general population.

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @Jonathan Mason
  160. @Ripple Earthdevil

    Not entirely true, as long as the “migrants” can continue to be segregated into the largely Hispanic and poor Canal District in San Rafael.

    (I made an error earlier. The church I saw was actually in San Anselmo, but I’m going to roll with this comment, since both cities are close together in Marin.)

    San Rafael must be doing a good job of not only hiding those migrants, but sending them on their way after a temporary stay. The city has seen very little population growth in the last eighteen years (less than 3% compared to around 10% for the state) and the Hispanic population of all races is around 30%, which is high for Marin County, but low for California. The white population in San Rafael is 70 percent, but that includes Hispanic whites. Nonetheless, that figure is still much higher than for the rest of California.

    I’m familiar with that area of San Rafael, as I used to take my Lexus over there to be serviced. It looks just like one would expect from its surrounding population. And now that you mention it, I have seen a lot of Hispanic immigrants hanging out close to the 580 overpass on Bellam Blvd, looking for work.

    Still, that part of Marin is the most un-Marin-like place I can remember seeing. Except maybe Marin City.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  161. sayless says:
    @MEH 0910

    Can only see pandas. What’s the other, thanks.

  162. Thomas says:
    @Unladen Swallow

    That the STEM people at Berkeley were very similar to their counterparts at other elite science focused universities like MIT, Stanford, Caltech, Illinois, etc… whereas everyone else was effectively attending another university and that you could see the differences geographically on campus, with the STEM people separated from the humanities/social science types by physical distance as well as field(s) of study.

    The distinction is a little more continuous than discrete, but this is generally true (I’m a Cal alum). The further north and east you go on the campus (away from Sproul Plaza, the commercial districts of Berkeley along Telegraph and down the hill on Shattuck, and BART), the more rarefied both the subject matter of the disciplines located in the various buildings are, as well as the physical environment. (Though there are some exceptions. Cloyne, a student housing co-op that at least used to be a notorious drug den, is north of campus.) There were some places that seemed to edge along one side of the graph or the other: the econ and statistics departments were along one axis, the law school on another.

    This mirrors the East Bay generally, by the way. The flats are generally considered scuzzy, while if you’re anybody, you live higher on the hill. The Berkeley campus is on a particularly steep hill, so the riff-raff you’d see hanging around Shattuck don’t usually make it above Telegraph.

    My impression of Berkeley from 40 years ago was that it was a good school for smart kids, but it was not a good place for kids who needed a lot of help to get by. If it is still like that, letting in more lower IQ students is just setting them up for flunking out.

    This accords with my memories, that it was very much a place where coming in, you sank or you swam. It wasn’t unusual for students to have some sort of mental or personal crisis by sophomore year. One issue is that it’s a large public university with a relatively modest endowment. (Over 30,000 undergrads and an endowment of $4.6 billion, compared to, say, Stanford, with about 7,000 undergrads and an endowment of $26 billion. Berkeley does not have a medical school, however, which affects the endowment.) It just doesn’t have the resources that a private school does to do a lot of hand-holding for students admitted on affirmative action.

    • Replies: @Anon
  163. I went to Princeton, and what I found was it was very difficult to flunk out. If your grades drop below a C, a special advisor automatically contacts you and offers resources for free academic help. If you are getting an F, they have ways of retroactively unenrolling you from the course, making it look as though had never taken it. Additionally, they are very accommodating to students who need to take 5 or 6 years to graduate and offer significant financial and mental health resources for these students.

    Athletes, first gen college students and underrepresented minorities are invited to participate in an exclusive semester prior to freshman year where they can take two introductory courses. This is so that later on if these students need to drop a class for a certain reason, they will still have enough courses under their belt to graduate. Michelle Obama writes about this in her book.

    Now, I don’t want to be unfair. The system also benefits privileged white kids because professors are very flexible in their grading and offer multiple opportunities to do extra work to make up for a poor grade. A friend of mine attending a County College in LA told me that if she or her classmates missed even one class during the semester, they would be automatically unenrolled from the course with no refund, regardless of your standing.

    I’ve never heard of anyone flunking out of Princeton. This is partially because of the equal outcomes agenda, but also as a ploy to beat Harvard and Yale on their statistics. If Princeton has a 96% grad rate and Harvard only has 95%, we look better!

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  164. Anon[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomas

    Part of the problem is that we give a massive amount of hand-holding to all minorities these days. There are a ton of programs geared towards minorities Pre-K all the way through grade 12, and if you’re a student who had your hand held all your life, you don’t do well after being tossed into deep water on your own. Having your hand held teaches learned helplessness and dependency. Being forced to cope makes you develop skills and emotional resources.

    Naturally bright kids with a drive can cope. Above-average but not bright blacks who have been babied and hand-held all their lives drown when on their own. They’d do better at historically black colleges where the classes aren’t so tough.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  165. @Kronos

    “This education game is pointless, painful, and self-defeating.”

    I like science but my brain doesn’t understand it. If I sue education can I get a lot of money?

    • Replies: @Kronos
  166. @Pincher Martin

    Did Novato succeed in sending its rednecks to the Central Valley?

    • Replies: @Pincher Martin
  167. Hail says: • Website
    @Ed

    is he still at Primerica?

    He lists June 2014 to Oct. 2019, specifically, as his time of employment there. (Not “June 2014 to Present.”) A straight reading of that means he has recently quit after five years of employment at Primerica.

    He is most likely turning 26 around now (give or take a few months). Especially considering what kind of neighborhood he came from, five years of steady employment selling life insurance in his twenties is a pretty good outcome (see also Dave Pinsen’s comment above); the whole Berkeley thing was unfortunate but not exactly his fault.

    • Replies: @Lot
  168. Blacks are simply not cut out for modern civilization, where they can excel only in sports & entertainment. It is a pity that they have fully adopted grievance attitude. Among their leaders, those were the options:

    1. Marcus Garvey- Back to Africa. Couldn’t work.

    2. Booker T. Washington- Create a functional & self-sufficient black society, with emphasis on trades, industrial workers, artisans, vocational schools. This was the best option for them & for others, but it was rejected by later black leaders.

    3. William Du Bois- first real exponent of grievance industry. Unfortunately, most blacks (and many whites) adopted that stance.

    4. Martin Luther King- equality of opportunity. Didn’t work.

    5. Stokely Carmichael & others- black nationalism, separate black state in the US. Couldn’t work, blacks could not live in a poor state close to affluent white country.

    Only Booker T. Washington was a realistic leader, and he, historically- lost.

  169. @obwandiyag

    There is no class system in these United States. Don’t you understand the market? Read Milton Friedman.

  170. @Jack D

    How many black physicians graduate at the top of their class?

    I have no idea, and that is not necessarily relevant to them being good at their jobs, depending on what their jobs are. The medical students who graduate at the top of their class are more likely to go into teaching and research, but the medical profession is a very broad church and there are many career paths.

    Over decades of working in various aspects of health services administration I have worked with African-American, Haitian, Puerto Rican, Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lankan, Vietnamese, South American, as well as Anglo-Saxon and Jewish doctors and have not noticed any particular difference in performance related to race–except that the Anglo-Saxons and African-Americans are hardly ever multilingual.

  171. Not Raul says:
    @Duke84

    How do you know David Hogg’s SAT?

    • Replies: @Hail
  172. J.Ross says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Other commemters here have reported black doctors regularly having trouble with their re-qualifications.

  173. Kronos says:
    @Redneck farmer

    There many auxiliary roles in manufacturing that can be easily performed by IQ 85+ people. Unfortunately, the pay is very low. The pay used to be decent but automation, immigration, and offshoring killed these jobs or shrunk the pay scale. I believe that bringing them back is far more preferable that any mass guaranteed universal income plan. Andrew Yang is correct about the approaching automation apocalypse, but the UBI plan will likely create the social dysfunction of 1960s-1970s welfare.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  174. SFG says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    I was thinking more the Harvard-and-Yale type places.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  175. SFG says:
    @Ed

    As against AA as I am, they kind of have a point here. A black patient’s going to be a lot more comfortable with a black doctor, and more likely to tell them about some vague complaint that has a 10% chance of turning out to be cancer or something else serious.

  176. @Jonathan Mason

    You bit that on the button.

    My wife had a very difficult pregnancy and an extremely difficult delivery with our first child.

    She worked at the hospital where she gave birth, and was given the VIP treatment. For example, they knew she didn’t want a C-section, but her delivery was of the sort that would be a C-section in the US 99% of the time. She didn’t have a C-section.

    My wife put together an all-star team for her pregnancy and delivery. She knew the best MDs and nurses, etc.

    There is not a snowball’s chance in Hades that she would ever use affirmative action to choose a health care provider.

    OB/GYN – from Haiti. You guess the race.

    Lamaze class lady — today nutso Hatian woman.

    Nurse — a midwife from Jamaica who had been trained as a nurse in London. Amazing woman.

    Resident — the woman who did the hard work of reaching into my wife and spending over an hour turning the baby so he was facing the right direction— a black American woman.

    Med student assistant who helped enormously in the delivery — a white American guy.

    Later, the Pediatrician— an Igbo from Nigeria.

    I doubt many of them graduated in the top of their class.

    A few years later, my wife gave birth in one of the fanciest hospitals in NYC. The fancy big name OB/GYN didn’t deliver the babies. He pawned that job off on a lady OB/GYN we had never met before.

    So yeah. Sometimes the big name doctors aren’t the best.

    OTOH, I once lived in an isolated town in the mountains, where I taught at a small college. Supposedly the best medical care for 100 miles or more. The ****ing pediatrician constantly misdiagnosed my son. My son had an untreated broken leg for a week because the doctor insisted it was really a virus.

    So sometimes the lesser doctors are complete morons.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  177. Not Raul says:
    @GodHelpUs

    Hello fellow white gentleman,

    Unz found that Harvard was 26% Jewish, not 20%

    https://infoproc.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy.html?m=1

    Nice try, though. Better luck next time, old chum.

    • Replies: @GodHelpUs
    , @Lot
  178. @Ed

    The proportion of medical students who identified as African-American or black rose from 5.6 percent in 1980 to 7.7 percent in 2016, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges.

    That could be true, but the US produces nowhere near the number of medical graduates it needs and medical education is incredibly expensive. Many minority doctors graduate from offshore medical schools like those in Grenada, St Martin, Saba, and the Dominican Republic, and India produces 50,000 medical graduates per year, compared to only 18,000 in the US. Many Indian medical graduates end up in the US.

    Many black doctors come to the US for postgraduate studies and the J1 visa is quite easy to get. The J1 holder can sign a National Interest Waiver and convert to a EB-2 Green Card if they agree to work in various specialties where there is a “need” like mental health or working for the VA or certain other areas where the US is needy for doctors. (Thus the US subtly poaches doctors from other countries in areas where the US is supposedly more “needy” than the country that educated the doctor.)

    • Replies: @Meretricious
  179. Kronos says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    That was actually one of the issues that attracted me to the HBD movement. The glaring lack of any education malpractice. If education was nearly as important as propagated, you’d have a large malpractice industry plaguing education sectors across the country. But the case law is puny, vague, and full of misdirection. You can’t sue school districts for lack of education retainment for *reasons.* I’d get a laugh if a school utilized the works of Arthur Jenson and Charles Murray to demonstrate in court that essentially education is pointless. That any individuals with low IQs/learning disabilities were damned before setting foot in any institution of learning. That education didn’t cause these genetically innate conditions.

    The lack of education malpractice is just another massive dog that never barked.

  180. @Ginger bread man

    My college senior tells me that Princeton went through a deliberate process of grade deflation a few years ago, while Yale and Harvard have not, quite deliberately. Of course, I expect that doesn’t change the support mechanisms in place for students who are flailing, but it does help employers and graduate school admissions officers spot the really bright ones.

    • Replies: @Triumph104
  181. @Paleo Liberal

    My wife had a very difficult pregnancy and an extremely difficult delivery with our first child.

    Sorry to hear that. My wife had an OB/GYN in the Dominican Republic and had some complications which meant that a Caesarian section was necessary. All went well, even though my daughter tried to poop into the abdominal cavity as she was being extracted.

    On top of my monthly insurance premium of $150, I also had to fork out a copay of about $160, and pay another $100 to have a Registered Nurse sit with my wife all night for the first two nights and help out with the brat.

    However my daughter is a fabulous child, is a great intellect, and at the age of 7 can now beat me in a cycle race and in a swimming race, and has taught me how to add up 24 and 24 without using a pencil and paper, so I would say that she is turning out to be a worthwhile investment.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  182. Coburn says:
    @Anon

    If a school like Berkeley does drop ACT/SAT, there’s only one reason why. They want to de-Asian the place. Going by test scores alone means they have a huge Asian presence, and they want to reduce that number.

    That’s my take. This is an effort to cap the flood of Asian students into top tier universities.

    I think Steve and the regulars here are locked into the old black/white paradigm to explain these developments. Two decades ago, white, liberal institutions were preoccupied by insuring more black participation. But, I think now, that is no longer the dominant factor. I think, the still overwhelming white faculty and administration secretly fear the Asian takeover of acadamia

    • Replies: @Meretricious
    , @Triumph104
  183. @Andy

    Elite universities like Berkeley are obviously not going to let any moron in. They are not going to ruin their own brand.

    Why not? Harvard/Yale have been doing it for over 300 years. Admitting legacy/AA morons the likes of George W. Bush, Jared Kushner, Al Gore, Barack, Michelle, Malia Obama, or Sotomayor didn’t seem to have hurt their reputation.

  184. Hail says: • Website
    @Not Raul

    “Parkland survivor mocked as reject by Laura Ingraham gets into Harvard,” by Claude Thompson, Washington Examiner, December 22, 2018:

    Hogg’s score on the SAT standardized test has been reported as a 1270, and he graduated with a 4.2 GPA. Harvard has a holistic approach to admissions with a focus on personal character, including activism and volunteer work, and a desire for diversity among the student body. The middle 50 percent of SAT scores of students admitted to Harvard ranged from 1470 to 1570 on a 1600-point scale last year.

    Newsgossip followers may recall that David Hogg (graduated from high school, June 2018) was rejected, in the 2017-18 college admissions season, from the following four University of California schools: UCLA, UCSD, UCSB. (Apparently he really wanted to go to California.)

    Laura Ingraham was criticized for reporting this on her show (which Hogg himself had publicized first) in a non-reverential manner.

    Hogg then didn’t attend any college, it seems, in Fall 2018, but in the 2018-19 admissions season, Harvard accepted him, and he began at Harvard Sept. 2019. In the next few weeks, he’ll be finishing his first Harvard semester, and will turn 20 during his second semester (spring 2020).

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  185. @SFG

    … and Stanford, which really was a finishing school for the first fifty years of its existence. Even in the early ’60s, when I used to spend many hours roaming its campus (and actually using the Hoover Institution’s library, aged all of 12 – the amazing thing is that they let me do so with nary a raised eyebrow), the place seemed somnolent. It wasn’t of course; I just wasn’t looking in the right places.

  186. @sayless

    I too don’t get the point of this picture. It looks like one panda about to hit the back of the other panda with a folding chair.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    , @Triumph104
  187. GodHelpUs says:
    @Not Raul

    Thank you for the correction.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  188. Forbes says:
    @Mr McKenna

    I swore I fixed that…oh well. Pretty funny.

  189. Lot says:
    @Hail

    Colleges create “class of X” facebook groups for students to join when they are accepted and still in high school. In fact that is the main time those groups are used, the spring and summer before freshman year.

  190. Lot says:
    @Not Raul

    He didn’t “find” anything, and like all of his attempts at demography was trash.

  191. Lot says:
    @Hail

    “ five years of employment at Primerica.”

    Primerica is a MLM scam. You get a “job” there by paying money to someone higher up in the pyramid.

  192. Alden says:
    @Jamie_NYC

    What I would love to see is very well funded aggressive law firms all over the country suing auto insurance companies over their discriminatory rates against teen boys and young men.

    Those firms could also sue the auto insurance companies over their practice of redlining and charging customers different rates according to where they live.

    Maybe Grisham could write a book about a courageous young law school grad who files such discrimination law suits, achieves justice and equality for men and retires at 28 to the Caribbean with Princess Charming.

    Matt Damon and Scarlett Johansson could star in the movie. Jon Voight and Gene Hackman as the attorneys for the eeevvviiiilll auto insurance firm.

  193. Anon[331] • Disclaimer says:

    This was funny:

    The Electric Agora
    ‏ @ElectricAgora
    Replying to @olivertraldi

    While I can see the argument that standardized tests function as a kind of equalizer, I don’t think it’s at all obvious, such that one can just snark at their abolishment like this. My daughter has had a terrible time with standardized tests, and we are glad they are going.

    11:48 AM – 23 Nov 2019

    A magazine, edited by Daniel A. Kaufman, for in-depth discussion of Philosophy and its intersection with various other fields.

    theelectricagora.com

    Ha-ha! Uh, Danny-boy, I’ve gotta break it to you: Your little dannyette is not that smart. That’s what “having a terrible time with standardized tests” means. I’m sure she just says the smartest things. But she isn’t smart.

  194. @Coburn

    Asians underperform in college–and in the workplace. They’re worker bees who test well

  195. @Jonathan Mason

    Indian MDs are horrible–Asians are good

  196. Duke84 says:
    @Duke84

    He made it public when he was turned down at UC Berkley.

  197. @Jonathan Mason

    LOL. most (probably 95%) Negro and Hispanic MDs are affirmative action, ie, unqualified. Name 1 groundbreaking peer-reviewed paper by a Negro–1!

  198. @Anonymous

    Goldman Sachs launches pronoun initiative.

    Time for short sales on their stock. (Assuming they are publicly traded.) We know the whoring that Goldman Sachs has committed through their political connections. They had Bush and Obama treasury secretaries. They killed Bear Stearns. I hope they pay the price for their perfidy while I can enjoy their demise. I am not abating my breath.

  199. @Jonathan Mason

    Over decades of working in various aspects of health services administration

    Whom have you gone to when you needed surgery? If you went under the knife with an affirmative-action surgeon I’ll be happy to give credence to your theme.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  200. Ed says:
    @eah

    Hilarious. I wonder how many academics read Unz secretly?

  201. @Jonathan Mason

    From raising 4 kids, the youngest almost 18 now, I can make some predictions:

    1. There will be times when your daughter will really make you angry. Sometimes it may be deliberate.

    2. There will be times when your daughter will do something so great it will absolutely astonish you. As in, you will wonder how your kid could possibly pull that off.

    3. There will be times when you will wonder if your daughter will ever make it in life. Most likely she will repeat #2 when things look really bad for her.

    4. There will be times when you will be livid as to how cruel people can be. It seems worse when it’s your daughter.

    5. There will be times when you will wonder if you should intervene due to upsetting situations with a coach, or a teacher, or whatever. For 3 of my 4 kids I had to at some point. I usually try to have my kids settle their own disputes, which gave me much more credibility on the rare occasions when I intervene.

    6. There will be times when a teacher or a coach or a principal does something to really help your kid out. These kind interventions may even be life changing events. This has happened with all 4 of my kids.

    7. Life will sometimes be unfair. Sometimes your daughter won’t get what she deserves. Other times she may get more than she deserves.

  202. @eah

    Decades ago, my mother helped found her state’s ACLU. She wasn’t an officer, and she got extremely upset with them later, but that is a different issue.

    Anyway, at one point some state legislators tried to get a professor at another campus of the state U fired because he was a Communist. I don’t mean a lefty, or a Marxist, or even a small c communist. I mean a Communist. The ACLU came to his defense and prevented him from getting the axe. Also, the university professor union stepped in. He had tenure.

    My mother took me to hear him speak once. Afterwards, she agreed with me that he was a complete idiot; but free speech is free speech and tenure is tenure.

    As for Indiana U — free speech is free speech and tenure is tenure.

    There are some hypocrites on the left who were in favor of free speech when the left was targeted, but are now in favor of banning “hate speech “. I am not one of those hypocrites.

  203. @Kronos

    There is a fatal flaw in Yang’s plan.

    Hint: the first letter: “I”.
    Second letter: “m”.

    To be more precise: as long as foreign tourists can come over 8 months pregnant and give birth to American citizens; as long as women can run across the border when their water breaks; as long as American born children of illegal aliens are automatically entitled to $1000 a month for life as soon as they turn 18; as long as H1-B workers turned green card holders turned citizens can bring their aging parents over for government freebies; the plan won’t work.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  204. Icy Blast says:
    @Anonymous

    I’ve seen Americans of European descent and the people we used to call “Oriental” cooperate silently in many ways. The simple trick is not to talk about it. If a few ignorant KJV-only ridgerunners want to proclaim that “Asians” are the cause of all evil in the U.S.A., there is not much intelligent persons can do about it. (Breitbart obviously has a large readership, and these people aren’t going anywhere.)

  205. @Cagey Beast

    I think that’s great.

    Let the Chinese train millions of Africans so that they have the language skills to try and migrate to mother China.

    Aging China needs young black bodies!

  206. @Mr McKenna

    Hillary has a J.D. from Yale Law School. Credentials aside, I believe that Hillary is vastly smarter than Trump, but she’s also vastly more evil, so that may be some kind of a wash. Not to mention that she did appear to get outsmarted by him in November 2016.

    Hillary is straightforward. She’s is a very smart, very ambitious, check the boxes, “good girl” who is in fact not very good at all. She’s Tracy Flick.

    Trump’s smarts i can never read. I don’t know how much of his continuing disappointing performance is due to laziness and ill-discipline, due to arrogance, due to being weirdly insecure for an alpha male of his success, due to lack of committment (i.e. being a fraud) or … due to just not being smart enough. Makes it much harder to read Trump’s actual intelligence.

    And, of course, both of them are degraded by being old. I’m several years younger and know i don’t have the snap, crackle and pop i did at 50, much less at 25–despite quite a bit of accumulated wisdom.

    • Replies: @Meretricious
  207. @SunBakedSuburb

    I have no idea. I’ve only stopped there twice and never for long.

  208. @George

    I’d prefer more of a free market, let people buy whatever education they want.

    If both buyer and seller really want to do income sharing options, then more power to them.

  209. MEH 0910 says:
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE#WWF_name_dispute

    [MORE]

    In 1994, Titan Sports had entered into an agreement with the World Wide Fund for Nature (also trademarked WWF), an environmental organization, regarding Titan’s use of the “WWF” acronym, which both organizations had been using since at least March 1979. Under the agreement, Titan had agreed to cease using the written acronym “WWF” in connection with its wrestling promotion, and to minimize (though not eliminate) spoken uses of “WWF” on its broadcasts, particularly in scripted comments. In exchange, the environmental group (and its national affiliates) agreed to drop any pending litigation against Titan, and furthermore agreed not to challenge Titan’s use of the full “World Wrestling Federation” name or the promotion’s then-current logo.[116]

    In 2000, the World Wide Fund for Nature sued World Wrestling Federation Entertainment Inc. in the United Kingdom, alleging various violations of the 1994 agreement.[117] The Court of Appeal agreed that the promotion company had violated the 1994 agreement, particularly in regards to merchandising. The last televised event to market the WWF logo was the UK-based pay-per-view Insurrextion 2002. On May 5, 2002, the company launched its “Get The F Out” marketing campaign and changed all references on its website from “WWF” to “WWE”, while switching the URL from WWF.com to WWE.com.[44] The next day, a press release announced the official name change from World Wrestling Federation Entertainment, Inc. to World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc., or WWE, and the change was publicized later that day during a telecast of Raw, which was broadcast from the Hartford Civic Center in Hartford, Connecticut.

  210. @PiltdownMan

    Princeton ended grade deflation in 2014.

    October 7, 2013

    Nine years ago, Princeton University hoped to lead the fight against constantly growing GPAs with a policy of “grade deflation,” which set a suggested cap on the number of A’s in a class. The plan didn’t catch on, and now Princeton appears to be backtracking.

    Newly initiated Princeton President Chris Eisgruber announced today that the Ivy League university would create a faculty committee to review the school’s grade deflation policy, in which faculty are advised to cap A grades at 35 percent of students. …

    There’s a reason students don’t like the policy — the lower GPAs resulting from the grade deflation policy have had a slightly negative impact on job and graduate school prospects. In 2009, Princeton began to provide a notice with its transcripts that explain the deflation policy, but that likely has little impact. A recent study in PLOS ONE found that employers and college admissions workers more often approve of applicants with higher raw GPAs, and that’s true even if they are informed that the applicant’s school’s average grade was much higher.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/10/end-grade-deflation-princeton-university-inflation-as/310231/

    Oct 3, 2018

    Four years after the elimination of grade deflation as a university-wide policy, students have seen GPAs rise — if only by a few percentage points.

    The University-wide GPA in 100–400 level courses across all departments and programs increased .026 points over the past year, from 3.435 to 3.461, according to a report by the Faculty Committee on Examinations and Standing. …

    The 2014 revised policy removed the grade deflation system and allowed departments to determine their own grading practices. However, because departments can determine their own grading policies, aspects of grade deflation may still exist. …

    http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2018/10/2018-2019-grade-report

  211. @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    Whom have you gone to when you needed surgery? If you went under the knife with an affirmative-action surgeon I’ll be happy to give credence to your theme.

    The only time in my life I have had surgery, the surgeon was Dr. Clarence James, who was also moonlighting as the Deputy Premier of Bermuda at the time.

    Obituary:

    http://www.royalgazette.com/news/article/20160417/truly-loved-former-deputy-premier-dies

  212. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    Kashawn mistakenly wrote WWF instead of WWE.

    In 2001, the WWF (World Wrestling Foundation) lost a lawsuit to the WWF (World Wildlife Fund), so the wrestling group had to change its name to WWE (World Wrestling Entertainment).

    Years ago it was common for professional wrestlers to beat one another with metal folding chairs in the ring. Currently, a panda is the logo for the World Wildlife Fund.

    The picture of the panda about to hit the back of the other panda with a folding chair is an homage to the wrestling and wildlife history of the term WWF.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Triumph104
  213. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Naturally bright kids with a drive can cope. Above-average but not bright blacks who have been babied and hand-held all their lives drown when on their own. They’d do better at historically black colleges where the classes aren’t so tough.

    A lot of blacks who go to elite schools would do okay at lower tier state schools and a lot of blacks at state schools would do well at vo-tech. Blacks do well vocationally in places where the rules are clear cut and fairly but firmly enforced. A vo-tech instructor at a diesel mechanic school said he always steered his black students to bus companies or utilities because they seemed to do okay there, whereas at truck shops usually they’d get in trouble with interacting with customers or on judgment calls.

    I’m talking here about talented tenth or just under that blacks, not average ghetto blacks, who are best kept in custodial positions or as helpers.

  214. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Triumph104

    Not to be confused with the similar logo of the MidWest Westie Fest:

    A Social Event with a Dancing Problem – July 16-19, 2020

    https://midwestwestiefest.com/

  215. @Coburn

    Agree. UC Berkeley’s undergraduate enrollment is 39 percent Asian-American. Add in international students from Asia and students who refused to state their race, the school is at least 45 percent Asian.

  216. @Triumph104

    Should be World Wrestling “Federation”.

  217. Thw saccharin LA Times story about poor LaKashawntavious and “little aggressions” he suffered as a proud Wakandan, with Chritianne Amanpour narrating in your head, is exactly the kind of pathetic drivel you would expect from that source.

  218. @Paleo Liberal

    as long as American born children of illegal aliens are automatically entitled to $1000 a month for life as soon as they turn 18

    Don’t they have to be born in Alaska to get that?

    It does seem strange that children of illegal aliens get citizenship, and so do children of bona fide tourists who are born prematurely, but not the children of overseas diplomats even if they are born in a local hospital,

    Boris Johnson, British PM was born in the US while his father was a student in New York, lived his whole life in Britain, and yet had to formally renounce his US citizenship to avoid being taxed by the US on totally British stuff like selling his home at a profit–which goes to show that birthright citizenship is a 2-way thing since the US lays claim to all born on its territory even if they don’t want to be US citizens.

    All this goes back to a badly written post civil war amendment to the constitution that gave US citizenship to former slaves. However we have a Supreme Court whose members delusionally believe they can tell what the original intention of the Constitution and amendments was and should be for eternity.

  219. @Ed

    Malia Obama is the real Harvard

  220. @bigdicknick

    No, an influx of Jews would only be indicative of the primacy of the Sacred Cause of Israel; that would be, and would remain, the only important thing. In all other matters they would bring all of their other, highly leftist policy preferences to their “membership” of the Republican party. You think the GOP is cucked now, bubele, you ain’t seen nothing compared to what would then transpire.

    Consider the course of events in Virginia over the last few decades; liberals moved to Northern Virginia big-time, some for the lifestyle & environs, but many to flock toward the Imperial City, either to work directly in Big Government, or to work in Big Government’s “support industries”. They brought their politics with them, & consequently formerly level-headed, moderate Virginia is largely now a blue zone.

    Expect something similar for the Republicans; although the one, crucial issue gets those Jews to the GOP, on every other issue they would remain aligned with their traditional cultural marxist, minoritarian core values. Some victory, huh?

  221. @AnotherDad

    Wrong: Hillary is lawyer smart–Trump is naturally brilliant and creative. Hillary is just another uncreative corporate lawyer who gained entry into politics by giving good head to a future president

  222. Wrong: Hillary is lawyer smart–Trump is naturally brilliant and creative. Hillary is just another uncreative corporate lawyer who gained entry into politics by giving good head to a future president

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  223. @Tulip

    so if Asian kids are brought up by Asian moms what are lil mozatrs raised by, faggot transgender whitex or are you implying that whites are not raised by the woman, its no wonder the white race is screwed.

  224. Alden says:
    @dearieme

    The British universities foreign students application process greatly favors applicants from the non White former colonies. They send interviewers to every non White foreign colony every year to bring in non White commonwealth students.

  225. NOTA says:
    @Triumph104

    Keshawn was a mascot for the elites running the school. What happens when your mascot flunks out and loses his shot at a middle class life so you can make the racial numbers look better? You get a new mascot–plenty more where he came from.

    In some better alternate universe, Keshawn is in his junior year at SJSU getting some kind of marketable degree that will set him up for a middle
    class life.

  226. @Jack D

    How many black physicians graduate at the top of their class? What % are in the bottom 10% of their class? Prof. Amy Wax says that black law students at Penn Law are almost all at the bottom of the class.

    I can’t speak for black physicians, since we’ve mercifully been spared the necessity to roll the dice. However, I can say for a fact that of the medical technicians that stuck my wife in the arm for bloodwork, the bottom rungs – due to pain inflicted – are uniformly occupied by blacks. Not West Indians or Africans. Native blacks.

    • Replies: @Meretricious
  227. @Johann Ricke

    there was a funny scene on House in which House accuses his brilliant black #2 of being affirmative action. What is screamingly funny is that everyone familiar with the House character knows that House would never hire an affirmative action candidate

  228. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @Meretricious

    I seriously doubt that Hillary is particularly talented as a fellatrice. She is probably good at mussypunching though.

  229. Not Raul says:
    @GodHelpUs

    You’re very welcome.

    I’m glad that you’re a good sport.

  230. Not Raul says:
    @Hail

    “Has been reported” by whom originally, and how did they get the information?

    Anybody can come up with hearsay.

  231. MEH 0910 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    The World Wildlife Fund headquarters building in downtown Washington is also home to office space being rented out by former President Barack Obama. | Pablo Martinez Monsivais/AP Photo

  232. @Alice

    Now translate that to a bad school where the teachers are black. the valedictorian of the school has no idea he lacks the skills because none of the adults in his life have them either.

    This describes rather well the situation in Haiti also, a country where no one knows anything about anything, and the kids cannot learn anything from the adults, but even Haiti produces a small number of intelligent doctors, dentists, and nurses.

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