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  1. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Well now I know why he was nicknamed “Rosebud.”

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    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    The arc of Rose’s life is somewhere between Seed of Chucky and Curse of Chucky. In other news, Cult of Chucky is finally cancelled.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Well now I know why he was nicknamed “Rosebud.”
     
    The Rosebuds were the first US-based team to go to the Stanley Cup Final, so the name once had some cachet.

    That was a long time ago, granted, back when several clubs in Canada went by the name "Swastikas".
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  2. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Good Time Charlie’s Got The Blues

    Gotta pay to play

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    • Replies: @Pat Boyle
    I have concluded that I am a moral superman. Everyday brings in more and more evidence that I have been a rare and terrific man. Today the bearer of that message is Charlie Rose.

    Maybe it's Willie's fault. I was raised with my older cousin Willie (our mothers were twins). He was only a few months older than me but that still meant that he had all those older brother responsibilities. So maybe he was supposed to tell me on the sly that women really wanted to be harrassed no matter how they protested. Well he didn't do it.

    I grew up and went into the outer world believing in things like the scantity of marraige. So when I came to supervise hundreds of women at work it never occured to me to diddle with them - I was married and vows were vows. Apparently from what I see on TV and the Web I was just about the only man of my generation who didn't behave badly.

    I'm great.
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  3. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    From Radar

    It’s funny how all these stories from disreputable and lesser known sources that everybody knew were wrong and just conspiracy theories because they’re not respectable and mainstream media have ended up being true.

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    • Replies: @slumber_j
    Pretty much anyone who knows anything about Charlie Rose knew what he was up to. For example, I alluded to this propensity of his in a 2012 comment on iSteve:

    By the way, for more on Christopher Guest in his own words--here discussing the comic genius of the peerless Fred Willard--see this interview clip with egghead chatterbox (and constantly intern-smitten paramour of NYC development bigwig Amanda Burden) Charlie Rose:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nNT8DOIaiA

     

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2012/03/it-depends-on-what-meaning-of-word.html?showComment=1333087698180#c946572630592823002
    , @Forbes
    Years ago when Tiger Woods had his troubles (2009), I recall seeing a video clip from a webcast on TMZ (now, I think, with its own cable channel...) time-stamped in April, before his Thanksgiving driving incident with a fire hydrant and shrubbery.

    The webcast featured two (one host/one guest) female porn stars/strippers/hookers discussing a Las Vegas bachelor party that Woods had attended, where all the guests participated horizontally with the paid entertainment. Needless, the hostess was all a-twitter about Tiger's attendance, and Q&A the guest for the obvious and pertinent details. Six or seven months before the incident, the YouTube video was sitting on the internet.
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  4. Dwright says:

    How could this man be any threat to other men’s wives?
    Just looking at him puts me to sleep, or is that his power?

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    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    How could this man be any threat to other men’s wives?
     
    Exactly. Charlie exudes a vibe of beta male mediocrity. He's rather obviously not very bright--not stupid, just not bright, mid-wattage--and an obvious example of someone who has a job because of Jewish privilege/ethnic-nepotism. I mean really 300 million people and Charlie Rose is PBS's interview show guy?

    It would have been nice though if one of these wives had immediately told her husband and had him confront old Charlie and punch his ass out. I don't know what the heck is wrong with these people.
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  5. Did ANYONE out there keep it zipped?

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    Mike "turning fruits into vegetables" Pence.
    , @nebulafox
    Mike Pence. Probably Ted Cruz. To the best of my knowledge, Barack Obama? I think President Reagan got his womanizing out of his system during his Hollywood days.
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  6. Not Raul says:

    I’ve never liked Rose. He’s in love with the sound of his own voice. Empty barrels make the most noise.

    He’s not even a real reporter. He’s a hack in a suit who flatters other guys in suits.

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    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123, druid
    • Replies: @Anon
    My mother has a (male) friend who worked for Rose's show doing research. The man does practically nothing.
    , @Anonymous
    I agree. He seems like a smug SOB.
    , @Anon
    I first saw Charlie Rose in mid 80s on late night (I think) CBS show. So, I'd be up at 2 am, and Rose would be interviewing some physicist about magnetic something or other.
    I liked this Rose. He seemed a straight shooter, just a guy doing his job.

    But then, he turned into a brand. He was the serious guy who interviewed thinkers, writers, artists, actors(and not mere entertainers), composers, academics, and etc.
    Considering the alternatives on TV, his show was probably one of the best shows on TV since Dick Cavett. There weren't many worthy interview shows on TV. Bill Moyers used to fill the role, but he was never was hip. After Rose, I suppose there was Larry King, but that was barely low-middle-brow. So, Rose show offered something half-intelligent on TV. But it also got increasingly pompous.

    Also, after awhile, there were no surprises. It would have been better if Rose passed out drinks so everyone could get drunk and drop inhibitions and speak honestly. Instead, we got intelligent talk(like on NPR) but the usual talking points on any subject matter. No one came on the show to spill any secrets. It was mostly to stick to official talking points or flatter one another... like actors, director, producer coming on the show and remarking how they are all so wonderful and talented.

    But the really icky stuff was the pandering. I recall David Remnick was once on and they were talking about the Serbian-Bosnian crisis. And Rose asked Remnick. "How do you.................... as a Jew............. yabba dabba doo..." It was like Remnick, being a member of the Shoah Tribe, was intrinsically privy("as a Jew")to some deep wisdom about human tragedy. Those pregnant pauses, the pious gestures, and etc. I mean it was icky.
    As for Remnick, he just played along. I suppose people can become morally spoiled too, and guys like Remnick feel morally entitled.
    But then, Remnick plays this game too, esp in his tribute to Springsteen the saint of sausaged buns.
    Bunch of globbies massaging each other's egos.
    , @NOTA
    He’s an excellent interviewer—the subject of the interview tends to shine through while Rose asks questions and guides the conversation. For that, he doesn’t need to be exciting, just engaged and willing to listen.
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  7. @Rosamond Vincy
    Did ANYONE out there keep it zipped?

    Mike “turning fruits into vegetables” Pence.

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  8. Dan Hayes says:

    The male depopulation of PBS and NPR on sex charges unabatedly continues.

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  9. buns like honeydews….finally, something on this blog I can get behind.

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  10. He should have asked their permission before he showed them his massive rolodex.

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  11. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    He’s Charlie Hose now.

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  12. How is Charlie Rose supposed to know what is or isn’t okay to do? Seriously, have a look around at all the sexual high jinks that’s celebrated and tell me how poor Charlie is supposed to know where the boundaries are? The same goes for even the lowest and most cretinous amongst these celebrities named and shamed this month.

    This all feels like “handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500″ as Captain Willard said in Apocalypse Now. I think Charlie Rose is a globalist stooge, by the way.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Rose acted like a fool, but I suspect a good number of these accusers are a bunch of hoors.
    , @Inquiring Mind
    Two prepositions

    1. The man is a "Living National Treasure" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_National_Treasure_(Japan)

    Yeah, yeah, Charlie Rose drinks the Globalist Kool-Aid, blah, blah, but look at the posted interview with Harry Lee, who is a canonized saint these days among immigration skeptics and neo-reactionaries. Mr. Rose's politics may be a polar opposite, but he gave Mr. Lee a respectful hearing.

    2. Rose's wandering hands are long, long well known (see grandparent post/link). He is also divorced and hence not cheating on his wife. The story goes that Gary Hart once whined, "What about Bob Kerrey?" when the disgraced presidential candidate was reminded, "Bob Kerrey isn't married."

    With those two factors in mind, could not PBS upper management have supplied Mr. Rose with "minders" or "chaperons"? Isn't there a "trope" of the "executive receptionist who knows more about the company than the CEO" whispering to the "pretty young thing" "OK, when you go in there, just don't turn your back to him"?

    If the guy was that important to the PBS brand, couldn't they have spared the necessary labor in supervision to keep his groping to a tolerable level? Is Charlie Rose that influential that upper PBS execs couldn't keep their Living National Treasure out of trouble, at least, in work settings?

    , @AnotherDad

    How is Charlie Rose supposed to know what is or isn’t okay to do? Seriously, have a look around at all the sexual high jinks that’s celebrated and tell me how poor Charlie is supposed to know where the boundaries are?
     
    I dunno, in the case of palming that "honeydew", some guy--actually the guy whose house Charlie was visiting!--had legal paper on said "honeydew". Slipping your paw up your host's wife's skirt for a nice squeeze ... yeah I think even not-too-bright Charlie should know that's generally understood to be bad form and beyond the pale--unless the couple in question has let it be known that their marriage is ending or simply a marriage of convenience.
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  13. nebulafox says:
    @Rosamond Vincy
    Did ANYONE out there keep it zipped?

    Mike Pence. Probably Ted Cruz. To the best of my knowledge, Barack Obama? I think President Reagan got his womanizing out of his system during his Hollywood days.

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    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    It's probable Reagan was faithful when he was married. When he was not, apparently he got around.
    , @Marat
    You might have missed the Cruz/Amanda affair rumors and Carly's curious joint press conference where she took over in defending him - spring 2016. Apparently Cruz borrowed the "this is beneath my acknowledgement and frankly I'm insulted" posture from the GHWB school of denial.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/29/carly_fiorina_steps_in_to_defend_ted_cruz_from_daily_mail_reporter_asking_about_affair_rumors.html
    , @Reggie Love
    Barack Obama is most definitely NOT a womanizer.
    , @The preferred nomenclature is...
    Obummer had Reggie and his drugs. That was enough for him.
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  14. Charlie Rose! This is a full-on media purge. It fits the theory perfectly that the true powers have dirt on anyone allowed to rise to national prominence. And the powers are pissed that instead of delivering Hillary into power, they allowed Trump to win. So they made a decision – if these media hacks can’t sway public opinion with the full force of monopoly distribution behind them then it’s time to get new hacks. The old hacks will be “dishonorably discharged”, tossed aside with suitable loss of respect, career, and opportunity so as to make an example for anyone else that decides to fail in their true role.

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    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Or it could be that journalism as a profession tends to attract hypocritical sleazebags like an elementary school playground attracts pedophiles and politics attracts narcissists.
    , @Lurker
    It saves on severance pay and pensions too.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    I wonder to what extent this purge is a knock-on effect of Hillary losing the election.

    With the Clinton juggernaut stopped, donations to the Clinton foundation dried up. That meant fewer sinecures available for left-leaning pundits. That made high-level journalism gigs even more precious, and guys like Charlie Rose and Mark Halperin were hogging multiple, lucrative gigs each.

    Plus, with the Clintons brought low, it was open season on Weinstein, and with Weinstein felled, his hush money to journalists must have dried up too.
    , @WowJustWow
    Most of the chapters in the 2017 Perv Purge have played out over an extended period of time -- major allegations build up over days or weeks, finally leading up to the ultimate responses from accused and his employer. In contrast, it had only been a few hours since I last checked the news when I learned that Charlie Rose had eight accusers and was already fired. Something feels different about this one. I'm curious to know, when the dust settles, whether we'll be able to piece together why some fell much more quickly than others.
    , @ChrisD
    And these old stale white male leftists will be replaced with younger, more fierce women who shall become Rachel Maddows Mk II across the American media machine rabidly shilling for more female presidents and senators. Sounds plausible actually.
    , @Art Deco
    It fits the theory perfectly that the true powers have dirt on anyone allowed to rise to national prominence.

    There's a difference between a 'theory' and a paranoid delusion.
    , @Beckow

    "It fits the theory perfectly that the true powers have dirt on anyone allowed to rise to national prominence"
     
    This is more than a theory. No self-respecting oligarch would ever allow someone who is not easily dischargeable to rise up to an independent position. It is a simple human dynamic. No elite does that except as an oversight or a mistake. And 'mistakes' were made, now for the consequences and a purge.

    After the Hillary-Brexit-Syria fiascos, harsh consequences for the current elite management team were inevitable. You can see it in their frantic attempts to show extreme loyalty, to compete with each other in generating witch hunts, or in the nervous and tense atmosphere. They know that the purge is happening, you can see the desperation in their eyes as they scream that nothing will be allowed to change. The smart ones got out quickly and quietly (Cameron, Obama). A few really dumb ones (or unlucky) will be made an example out of.

    A new management team is coming.

    , @Forbes

    if these media hacks can’t sway public opinion with the full force of monopoly distribution behind them then it’s time to get new hacks.
     
    Absolutely. Charlie Rose is 75 years old for heaven's sake. These hacks failed to get Hillary! elected, so they gotta go. Replaced by woke prog-lefties that'll get the job done.
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  15. Trelane says:

    Nobody can set up a leading question longer than Charley Rose.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    Agree. The man, a lawyer by education I think, was the worst questioner of all time--two thirds of his interviews were him talking while the guest waited for him to finish. He simply sucked at his so-called profession and especially compared to guys like Frost or Cavett.

    There was never anything confrontational or tense about a Rose interview--just another sign of the decline of public discourse and intellectual rigor.

    That he slithered around and acted like a cheap imitation of Christopher Walken doing the Continental guy on SNL just makes it all that much more satisfying.
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  16. nebulafox says:
    @Chief Seattle
    Charlie Rose! This is a full-on media purge. It fits the theory perfectly that the true powers have dirt on anyone allowed to rise to national prominence. And the powers are pissed that instead of delivering Hillary into power, they allowed Trump to win. So they made a decision - if these media hacks can't sway public opinion with the full force of monopoly distribution behind them then it's time to get new hacks. The old hacks will be "dishonorably discharged", tossed aside with suitable loss of respect, career, and opportunity so as to make an example for anyone else that decides to fail in their true role.

    Or it could be that journalism as a profession tends to attract hypocritical sleazebags like an elementary school playground attracts pedophiles and politics attracts narcissists.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Yeah, it does, but why are they all getting exposed now?
    , @Another Realist

    Or it could be that journalism as a profession tends to attract hypocritical sleazebags like an elementary school playground attracts pedophiles and politics attracts narcissists.
     
    Truer words have not been spoken.
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  17. Rod1963 says:

    Feh a glorified Larry King but still a empty suit with groping hands action.

    Really what some playing card manufacturer should do is make up a bunch of playing cards made up of the famous political and Hollywood perverts.

    We also need a action figure of pervy Joe Biden with groping hands action and butt buddy pelvic thrusting. A Slick Willie action figure will have dropping pants action along with another x-rated feature.

    When you stop and think about most of these are pieces of garbage, most of whom could die tomorrow and no would care. You if Weinstein died of a busted gut(he almost did when his lap band busted after attending 3 dinners in one night) people would just laugh and be the butt of jokes.

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    • Replies: @fish

    Really what some playing card manufacturer should do is make up a bunch of playing cards made up of the famous political and Hollywood perverts.
     
    You'd need a Pokemon deck…...
    , @Mr. Anon

    Really what some playing card manufacturer should do is make up a bunch of playing cards made up of the famous political and Hollywood perverts.
     
    Sort of like baseball cards - with stats even - how many times they got to first, second, etc.
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  18. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Not Raul
    I've never liked Rose. He's in love with the sound of his own voice. Empty barrels make the most noise.

    He's not even a real reporter. He's a hack in a suit who flatters other guys in suits.

    My mother has a (male) friend who worked for Rose’s show doing research. The man does practically nothing.

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    I have a friend who worked for Amanda Burden - Rose's partner - 20 years ago. She was basically propositioned by Charlie back then.
    , @Anon
    My mother has a (male) friend who worked for Rose’s show doing research. The man does practically nothing.

    Is any research necessary for that show?

    It's about asking generic questions to famous people whom Rose interviewed many times already. I mean, what does one have to know about Tarantino or Scorsese to ask generic questions?
    Or if Rose has on guests to talk about Iran and Israel, we know all the talking points and we know we're gonna hear the same generic questions and answers.
    And Rose knows who butters his bread. There are lots of things he can't say.

    One interesting thing I remember. He did a show with Watson and Wilson on Darwin, and he ended the show by saying it was the show he's most proud of. Maybe he liked that show because Wilson and Watson could surprise somewhat instead of totally sticking to the PC boilerplate.

    https://youtu.be/95CIlpfDSag?t=5m25s

    And according to Roger Waters, Rose once told him that he can't discuss certain matters because of orders from upstairs.

    https://youtu.be/v7jcvfbLoIA?t=6m1s

    And Charlie Rose show had value as platform for cultural figures in their twilight yrs. The last of Mailer, Sontag, Vidal, Sarris, and etc were featured on his show. No other TV shows would have them. To that extent, it respected Age in a culture that generally doesn't.

    https://charlierose.com/videos/13393

    https://charlierose.com/videos/291
    , @Art Deco
    If he can do all that interviewing cold without any preparation, that's pretty impressive.
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  19. bomag says:

    People who crave public attention also tend to crave _____ attention. (pubic *cough*)

    This is a church purging the fallen clergy.

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  20. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Not Raul
    I've never liked Rose. He's in love with the sound of his own voice. Empty barrels make the most noise.

    He's not even a real reporter. He's a hack in a suit who flatters other guys in suits.

    I agree. He seems like a smug SOB.

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  21. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @nebulafox
    Or it could be that journalism as a profession tends to attract hypocritical sleazebags like an elementary school playground attracts pedophiles and politics attracts narcissists.

    Yeah, it does, but why are they all getting exposed now?

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    • Replies: @415 reasons
    Because the shrill logic of SJWism fundamentally fails to understand human nature, and as the years roll by the pent up self righteousness is like a faulty dam, slowly filling up. If you take an absolutist stand on matters of sexual, racial, political and cultural propriety, then every year amp up both the pettiness and fervor with which you attack supposed enemies of the protected classes, there is going to be collateral damage. Not everyone has privately lives a politically correct life and now the more hypocritical SJWs (and others who had no role in whipping up this moral panic) are being swept away.
    , @MarcB.
    It's called "getting ahead of the story." Establishment figures who ran afoul the current rules of engagement are being dispatched in an effort save credibility that has been lost in an attempt to recapture the moral high ground. This is a purge.
    , @Thea
    Next up is the 'racists' so they had to plow that path beforehand. We begin to learn that Brad Pitt once played Eenie meenie Miny Mo and Reese Withspoon referred to multi hued vase as 'colored.'
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  22. @nebulafox
    Mike Pence. Probably Ted Cruz. To the best of my knowledge, Barack Obama? I think President Reagan got his womanizing out of his system during his Hollywood days.

    It’s probable Reagan was faithful when he was married. When he was not, apparently he got around.

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    Isn't that how it suppose to work? At least in a cordial sense?
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    Pretty much. Piper Laurie said he hit on her in a rather arrogant way, but she didn't seem at all traumatized by it. Just unimpressed.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    It’s probable Reagan was faithful when he was married.
     
    But Jane wasn't. Iwan Morgan's recent book depicts him as remarkably cucky about that, like he was ready to take her back when she got it out of her system.
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  23. Hail says: • Website

    Charlie Rose: “I am not President Trump’s enemy.” –July 7, 2017

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    • Replies: @jimbojones
    All the ones who bowed down and apologized got annihilated. The correct strategy with these accusations seems to be to either deny everything or to own one's actions.
    - By apologizing one gets the worst of both worlds - one admits that one knowingly did wrong and neither confessed nor repented until forced to.
    - By denying everything one concedes that the action in question may have been bad, but denies having committed it.
    - And by owning one's own actions one admits having done whatever one did, but refuses to allow that one has done anything wrong.

    Charlie Rose apologized and therefore he's done. Wonder who's next.
    , @guest
    I apologize deeply, and I think all women should be believed always. But these ones are liars.

    Love, Chuck Rose.

    By the way, why is it important the women know you hear them? Are you in couples' therapy together?
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  25. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Not Raul
    I've never liked Rose. He's in love with the sound of his own voice. Empty barrels make the most noise.

    He's not even a real reporter. He's a hack in a suit who flatters other guys in suits.

    I first saw Charlie Rose in mid 80s on late night (I think) CBS show. So, I’d be up at 2 am, and Rose would be interviewing some physicist about magnetic something or other.
    I liked this Rose. He seemed a straight shooter, just a guy doing his job.

    But then, he turned into a brand. He was the serious guy who interviewed thinkers, writers, artists, actors(and not mere entertainers), composers, academics, and etc.
    Considering the alternatives on TV, his show was probably one of the best shows on TV since Dick Cavett. There weren’t many worthy interview shows on TV. Bill Moyers used to fill the role, but he was never was hip. After Rose, I suppose there was Larry King, but that was barely low-middle-brow. So, Rose show offered something half-intelligent on TV. But it also got increasingly pompous.

    Also, after awhile, there were no surprises. It would have been better if Rose passed out drinks so everyone could get drunk and drop inhibitions and speak honestly. Instead, we got intelligent talk(like on NPR) but the usual talking points on any subject matter. No one came on the show to spill any secrets. It was mostly to stick to official talking points or flatter one another… like actors, director, producer coming on the show and remarking how they are all so wonderful and talented.

    But the really icky stuff was the pandering. I recall David Remnick was once on and they were talking about the Serbian-Bosnian crisis. And Rose asked Remnick. “How do you……………….. as a Jew…………. yabba dabba doo…” It was like Remnick, being a member of the Shoah Tribe, was intrinsically privy(“as a Jew”)to some deep wisdom about human tragedy. Those pregnant pauses, the pious gestures, and etc. I mean it was icky.
    As for Remnick, he just played along. I suppose people can become morally spoiled too, and guys like Remnick feel morally entitled.
    But then, Remnick plays this game too, esp in his tribute to Springsteen the saint of sausaged buns.
    Bunch of globbies massaging each other’s egos.

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    • Replies: @anon
    As highlighted on this blog, Lee Kuan Yew veered off of the usual talking points. Chahlie seemed a little uncomfortable and quickly changed the topic.
    , @Art

    I first saw Charlie Rose in mid 80s on late night (I think) CBS show. So, I’d be up at 2 am, and Rose would be interviewing some physicist about magnetic something or other.
    I liked this Rose. He seemed a straight shooter, just a guy doing his job.
     
    May I agree – he did many interesting interviews of people who were productive – architects, engineers, designers, scientists, builders, and captains of industry.

    I would not have picked Rose as a sexual predator. It is my impression that he thought that the women enjoyed the sex – that they were sexual pales.

    p.s. How many interviews did he do that slobbered over feminism?

    p.s. The left is just not honorable.
    , @Almost Missouri
    I only heard of Charlie Rose a few years ago, since which I've seen occasional bits. He always strikes me as boredly phoning it in, asking questions he obviously doesn't care about and not even bothering to fake interest in the guests' answers. I thought, "he doesn't care about this show, so why is he doing it?" Now we have the answer.

    Indeed, now we have the answer (in case it wasn't already intuitively obvious) to why we have almost every media production: these are machines for feeding fresh meat into their proprietors' appetites. If they have to make the occasional movie or whatever to keep the machine running, then so be it, but that is entirely subordinate to the main function of the production company: ass, whether women's, men's or children's.

    It is pretty safe to say that most of the Media Political Complex exists to feed its owners' lusts. Whatever media or politics happens to come out is a byproduct.

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  26. Grumpy says:

    He is a terrible interviewer. How did he ever get an interview show and keep it for decades? It never made any sense.

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    Same reason Leno kept his show. Ask only flattering, softball questions, and the big name guests will keep coming.
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  27. Marat says:
    @nebulafox
    Mike Pence. Probably Ted Cruz. To the best of my knowledge, Barack Obama? I think President Reagan got his womanizing out of his system during his Hollywood days.

    You might have missed the Cruz/Amanda affair rumors and Carly’s curious joint press conference where she took over in defending him – spring 2016. Apparently Cruz borrowed the “this is beneath my acknowledgement and frankly I’m insulted” posture from the GHWB school of denial.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/29/carly_fiorina_steps_in_to_defend_ted_cruz_from_daily_mail_reporter_asking_about_affair_rumors.html

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    Apparently Cruz borrowed the “this is beneath my acknowledgement and frankly I’m insulted” posture from the GHWB school of denial.

    The people accusing Bush, Sr. were the cretins at Spy magazine. His supposed 'mistress' was a women less attractive than his wife. The woman was a staff aide disliked by other aides. The 'evidence' for the accusation against him was that he'd refused to fire her consequent to her disputes with others on the staff (and that some paramour of her's contended he'd lost her to someone else, which he 'assumed' was Bush Sr.).

    There's not much Cruz can say to people bound and determined to believe he cheats on his wife (and that's going to be every pseudosophisticate in the world and everyone who dislikes Cruz politics).
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  28. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Cagey Beast
    How is Charlie Rose supposed to know what is or isn't okay to do? Seriously, have a look around at all the sexual high jinks that's celebrated and tell me how poor Charlie is supposed to know where the boundaries are? The same goes for even the lowest and most cretinous amongst these celebrities named and shamed this month.

    This all feels like "handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500" as Captain Willard said in Apocalypse Now. I think Charlie Rose is a globalist stooge, by the way.

    Rose acted like a fool, but I suspect a good number of these accusers are a bunch of hoors.

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    Yes, he acted like a lecherous old goat and they kept showing up for more. Why are the rest of us supposed to care, under the post-'60s rules? Shouldn't we all be celebrating Charlie is so comfortable with his sexuality? Shouldn't we be glad he's not uptight about this stuff?
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  29. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    My mother has a (male) friend who worked for Rose's show doing research. The man does practically nothing.

    I have a friend who worked for Amanda Burden – Rose’s partner – 20 years ago. She was basically propositioned by Charlie back then.

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  30. fish says:
    @Rod1963
    Feh a glorified Larry King but still a empty suit with groping hands action.

    Really what some playing card manufacturer should do is make up a bunch of playing cards made up of the famous political and Hollywood perverts.

    We also need a action figure of pervy Joe Biden with groping hands action and butt buddy pelvic thrusting. A Slick Willie action figure will have dropping pants action along with another x-rated feature.

    When you stop and think about most of these are pieces of garbage, most of whom could die tomorrow and no would care. You if Weinstein died of a busted gut(he almost did when his lap band busted after attending 3 dinners in one night) people would just laugh and be the butt of jokes.

    Really what some playing card manufacturer should do is make up a bunch of playing cards made up of the famous political and Hollywood perverts.

    You’d need a Pokemon deck……

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    The Iraqi deck? With similar results?
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  31. MEH 0910 says:

    Many men are pigs at heart, but in Charlie Rose’s case, it’s not just a metaphor. Last March, surgeons replaced his mitral valve with that of a swine, his second such porcine-related transplant.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OrganAutonomy

    Organ Autonomy

    This trope is for when parts of the body have “minds of their own” and will control or influence the brain of whomever they’re attached to.
    ……
    When a physical part other than the brain (usually the heart or liver) is the source of a person’s emotions, see Cardiovascular Love.

    If this is taken to extremes, it can drift into Body Horror territory.

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  32. Wilkey says:

    The truth is that these stories all seriously depress me. If it’s all but impossible for rich and/or famous guys like Charlie Rose, Kevin Spacey, and Louis CK to find hot, attractive young golddiggers then what hope do the rest of us less rich, less famous people have? I was hoping that in 20 years, as I launch into my 60s and our children are all grown, I could ditch my wife for some petite little 20-something year old, but I guess that’s probably not gunna happen, no matter how rich I become between now and then.

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    You're right that there probably isn't much hope for you. You're wrong that these figures were always rejected. You're just selectively told about the most antipathetic women in their lives rather than being given the full picture required to actually form a reasonable judgment about their behavior.
    , @sabril
    I agree with Guy that the odds are very much against you.

    Part of the problem is that in the past, pretty much all single women in their 20s were slender and childless and looking for a decent man to marry. These days, 70% of them are either overweight or single mothers or just looking to screw around with Chad or some combination thereof.

    The remaining girls are very much in demand and very aware of it. Why would they date a successful 60 year old when they are being pursued by legions of successful men in their 20s and 30s? The answer is that they wouldn't, not unless you brought extreme amounts of wealth and social status to the table.

    You are actually lucky that you got married before this sh*tshow started. There is a silent epidemic of men in their 20s who simply can't find any woman to date or marry.

    That said, I agree that for these celebrity men, you are seeing only the negative incidents. There are probably dozens of attractive young women who happily jumped into the casting couch with Harvey Weinstein and would been ecstatic to marry him. If you can achieve Weinstein-level power and success, you should have no problem finding your young sweetheart.
    , @bomag

    The truth is that these stories all seriously depress me.
     
    I rather see a glimmer of hope.

    Old man - young woman is not a particularly good strategy around which to organize a society, for a variety of reasons. We do well to discourage it.
    , @Anonymous
    Hat tip.

    Watch Benny Hill re-runs and just laugh the whole thing off.
    It's better to laugh than to cry.
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  33. @Hail
    https://twitter.com/charlierose/status/932747035069034496

    All the ones who bowed down and apologized got annihilated. The correct strategy with these accusations seems to be to either deny everything or to own one’s actions.
    - By apologizing one gets the worst of both worlds – one admits that one knowingly did wrong and neither confessed nor repented until forced to.
    - By denying everything one concedes that the action in question may have been bad, but denies having committed it.
    - And by owning one’s own actions one admits having done whatever one did, but refuses to allow that one has done anything wrong.

    Charlie Rose apologized and therefore he’s done. Wonder who’s next.

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  34. As they used to say in Vietnam, Charlie in the trees.

    Or today its, Charlie’s in the trees, and in the bushes as well.

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  35. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Trelane
    Nobody can set up a leading question longer than Charley Rose.

    Agree. The man, a lawyer by education I think, was the worst questioner of all time–two thirds of his interviews were him talking while the guest waited for him to finish. He simply sucked at his so-called profession and especially compared to guys like Frost or Cavett.

    There was never anything confrontational or tense about a Rose interview–just another sign of the decline of public discourse and intellectual rigor.

    That he slithered around and acted like a cheap imitation of Christopher Walken doing the Continental guy on SNL just makes it all that much more satisfying.

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    The man, a lawyer by education I think, was the worst questioner of all time–two thirds of his interviews were him talking while the guest waited for him to finish.

    Then when the guest started answering Rose would interrupt mid-sentence

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  36. Dr. X says:

    I think most liberals like Franken and Rose and Weinstein are supposedly “good” on “women’s issues” because they think life is perpetual college, where they can get laid by laying feminist bullshit on women. “Sure, of course I’m 100% pro-choice, no one should tell a woman what to do with her body” really translates into “After I bang you, if you get pregnant I’ll help pay for the abortion because it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than paying child support for eighteen years.”

    For a lot of these guys, life as an ongoing college frat party where they’re trying to get laid 24-7-365 actually works, maybe even into their forties or fifties. But they never think that they’re old and fat and ugly and don’t realize that they’re not 24 or even 32 any more until they grab some girl’s ass who’s younger than their daughter and for the first time ever the chick doesn’t dig it.

    In one sense, you can hardly blame them. They probably did get laid a lot and the gimmick worked for most of their lives. And for every Jack, there’s a Jill — it’s not as if for every guy perv out there, there isn’t a chick perv willing to get it on with him.

    The entire current sexual harassment stuff is a witch hunt against against boomers. Blame the unrealistic expectations of the Sexual Revolution, but also remember that feminism is about power, not equality. Women who want to sleep their way to success by bedding fifty guys are considered liberated and get a Helen Gurley Brown-inspired “‘Atta girl!” Men who make the offers and the ass-grabs are considered pervs. Some undoubtedly are, but it’s not as if their perviness hasn’t been hitherto rewarded handsomely by the post-Sixties sexual ethos.

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    The entire current sexual harassment stuff is a witch hunt against against boomers.
     
    Liked your post Doctor, but I gotta nitpick this one. Charlie Rose (b. 1942) is not a boomer. Like his contemporaries Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, and Nancy Pelosi, he is a pre-boomer, a member of the so-called Silent Generation (although he and Joe and Bernie and Nancy never shut up). They were already through college before the 1960s social waves really hit.
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  37. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    My mother has a (male) friend who worked for Rose's show doing research. The man does practically nothing.

    My mother has a (male) friend who worked for Rose’s show doing research. The man does practically nothing.

    Is any research necessary for that show?

    It’s about asking generic questions to famous people whom Rose interviewed many times already. I mean, what does one have to know about Tarantino or Scorsese to ask generic questions?
    Or if Rose has on guests to talk about Iran and Israel, we know all the talking points and we know we’re gonna hear the same generic questions and answers.
    And Rose knows who butters his bread. There are lots of things he can’t say.

    One interesting thing I remember. He did a show with Watson and Wilson on Darwin, and he ended the show by saying it was the show he’s most proud of. Maybe he liked that show because Wilson and Watson could surprise somewhat instead of totally sticking to the PC boilerplate.

    And according to Roger Waters, Rose once told him that he can’t discuss certain matters because of orders from upstairs.

    And Charlie Rose show had value as platform for cultural figures in their twilight yrs. The last of Mailer, Sontag, Vidal, Sarris, and etc were featured on his show. No other TV shows would have them. To that extent, it respected Age in a culture that generally doesn’t.

    https://charlierose.com/videos/13393

    https://charlierose.com/videos/291

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    What Roger Waters says there is very cutting edge............for 1985. Just the usual trite lefty boilerplate: some warmed over Chomsky, evil "corporations", etc. - stuff that sounds deep and insightful to college freshmen.
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  38. Another one bites the dust. Still waiting for Bill Clinton to get nailed to the wall for the Lolita Express that he frequently flew on with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, another sleazy fecking Jew.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html

    One by one these liberal icons are falling like dominoes. Couldn’t have happened to a better group of brain dead, morally bankrupt hypocrites.

    I’ve known this for years but the world is finally getting a true revelation, that the only two things the false religion of Liberalism worship are Greed and Lust. Everything else liberals do – often under the guise of “equality” and “justice”, is just a cover up for all the greed and lust that really drive them. That’s why they can’t get away from all the hypocrisy.

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    One by one these liberal icons are falling like dominoes. Couldn’t have happened to a better group of brain dead, morally bankrupt hypocrites.

    I’ve known this for years but the world is finally getting a true revelation, that the only two things the false religion of Liberalism worship are Greed and Lust. Everything else liberals do – often under the guise of “equality” and “justice”, is just a cover up for all the greed and lust that really drive them. That’s why they can’t get away from all the hypocrisy.

     

    What do you think about the theory I've seen floating around that there's a broader plan behind this wave of 'true revelation' in lefty circles?

    As I've seen it, the theory goes that great swathes of the Clinton camp are being systematically sacrificed on sex charges. The wave will crest with Billy C finally being called out for a big public shaming.

    This (theoretically) serves the American left's purposes in two ways.

    First, it clears the political decks of lingering, and now counterproductive, Clinton influences. The Dems will finally be free of them.

    Second, it's battlespace prep for impeaching/otherwise ousting Trump in 2018 on sexual harassment charges.

    Plausible? Or is it all just a spontaneous surge of SJW energy that's been building for a long time?

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  39. @nebulafox
    Or it could be that journalism as a profession tends to attract hypocritical sleazebags like an elementary school playground attracts pedophiles and politics attracts narcissists.

    Or it could be that journalism as a profession tends to attract hypocritical sleazebags like an elementary school playground attracts pedophiles and politics attracts narcissists.

    Truer words have not been spoken.

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  40. @Wilkey
    The truth is that these stories all seriously depress me. If it's all but impossible for rich and/or famous guys like Charlie Rose, Kevin Spacey, and Louis CK to find hot, attractive young golddiggers then what hope do the rest of us less rich, less famous people have? I was hoping that in 20 years, as I launch into my 60s and our children are all grown, I could ditch my wife for some petite little 20-something year old, but I guess that's probably not gunna happen, no matter how rich I become between now and then.

    You’re right that there probably isn’t much hope for you. You’re wrong that these figures were always rejected. You’re just selectively told about the most antipathetic women in their lives rather than being given the full picture required to actually form a reasonable judgment about their behavior.

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    You’re right that there probably isn’t much hope for you. You’re wrong that these figures were always rejected.

    LOL. Well uh gee, thanks.

    The problem isn't that Rose, Weinstein, Spacey, etc. couldn't get *a* woman (or man, in Spacey's case) who met his criteria - it's that one woman or man just wasn't enough. That fat-ass pig Weinstein was married to a woman 24 years his junior. They started dating when she was 28 and he was 52. She is by all reports extremely attractive. But Weinstein couldn't keep it in his pants.

    So who knows? Maybe there is hope for me. My wife is attractive and about a decade younger than me, so give me some credit, dude.
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  41. slumber_j says:
    @Anonymous

    From Radar
     
    It's funny how all these stories from disreputable and lesser known sources that everybody knew were wrong and just conspiracy theories because they're not respectable and mainstream media have ended up being true.

    Pretty much anyone who knows anything about Charlie Rose knew what he was up to. For example, I alluded to this propensity of his in a 2012 comment on iSteve:

    By the way, for more on Christopher Guest in his own words–here discussing the comic genius of the peerless Fred Willard–see this interview clip with egghead chatterbox (and constantly intern-smitten paramour of NYC development bigwig Amanda Burden) Charlie Rose:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nNT8DOIaiA

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2012/03/it-depends-on-what-meaning-of-word.html?showComment=1333087698180#c946572630592823002

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  42. @Anon
    Rose acted like a fool, but I suspect a good number of these accusers are a bunch of hoors.

    Yes, he acted like a lecherous old goat and they kept showing up for more. Why are the rest of us supposed to care, under the post-’60s rules? Shouldn’t we all be celebrating Charlie is so comfortable with his sexuality? Shouldn’t we be glad he’s not uptight about this stuff?

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    Agreed. While I can't deny that part of me is enjoying seeing all of these supposed defenders of women's rights and self-righteous hypocrites being hoisted on their own petards, ultimately I couldn't care less whether someone's butt was grabbed for five seconds eight years ago and actually think it's a dangerous road to go down. If it wasn't egregious enough to say or do something about it at the time, then don't bring it up now and ruin someone's career.
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  43. neprof says:
    @Rosamond Vincy
    It's probable Reagan was faithful when he was married. When he was not, apparently he got around.

    Isn’t that how it suppose to work? At least in a cordial sense?

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    Pretty much. Piper Laurie said he hit on her in a rather arrogant way, but she didn’t seem at all traumatized by it. Just unimpressed.
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  44. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Grumpy
    He is a terrible interviewer. How did he ever get an interview show and keep it for decades? It never made any sense.

    Same reason Leno kept his show. Ask only flattering, softball questions, and the big name guests will keep coming.

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  45. Mr. Anon says:

    I remember once, back in the early oughts, seeing Charlie Rose interview Le Moustache himself – Thomas Friedman – who was discoursing on the absolute necessity to invade and occupy Iraq, for……….reasons, of some sort. It was the apotheosis – almost a pure distillation – of New World Order cluster-f**kery. His mid-to-high-browedness – like that of NPR – is really just humbuggery.

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    Yeah, I also used to watch Rose regularly in the 90s and early 2000s, but too many appearances by clowns like Friedman made the show more like a platform for NWO.

    Still, there was worse to come. Tavis Smiley, sheeeeeeeiiit. I think he had Cornel West on every other show. Couldn't stand that huckster. At least Rose had some interest in stuff.
    Smiley's attitude was 'gots to have me'. So, everything is about how it best flatters blacks somehow.

    Now, one would think there would be lots of black male creeps too. I mean if Cosby, America's dad, was up to so many hanky panky, imagine the other blacks.

    I guess women figure it might be construed as 'racist'.

    But with so many charges against Jewish men and homos, who knows? The other shoe might fall too.
    Shoo!

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  46. guest says:

    What does it say about the power of the MSM that I had to look up his picture to make sure I was thinking of the right guy?

    I must have heard him speak many times, but I wasn’t sure. They all blend together.

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  47. t says:

    OT: Chicago Police officer gets five years in prison. None of the media reports mention his race but based on his name and picture I’d say there’s a 95% chance that he’s Hispanic. A lot of these cops turn out to be Hispanic, police departments are increasing hispanic(35% percent of new Chicago cops are hispanic, 41% white, 17% black and 7% Asian) but I think hispanics are still overrepresented, some of that could be that Hispanic cops are younger and less likely to have desk jobs.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-chicago-cop-sentencing-excessive-force-20171117-story.html

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    Back in the 1990s in Chicago, I once saw two cop cars roar up and four police officers jump out: a white, a black, a Latino, and an East Asian.
    , @Anon
    A lot of these cops turn out to be Hispanic, police departments are increasing hispanic

    Police is working class profession in many respects.

    As Chicago becomes more yuppie, its whites in nice areas don't raise kids to be cops. Chicago used to have huge white working class population. Many left for suburbs, and those who resettle tend to be yuppies.

    As for blacks, they don't have working class culture. More like welfare culture or crime culture.

    So, that leaves the Hispanics and Mesos as the new working class segment of the city.

    They are like the new Irish.
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  48. Matra says:
    @anonymous
    Agree. The man, a lawyer by education I think, was the worst questioner of all time--two thirds of his interviews were him talking while the guest waited for him to finish. He simply sucked at his so-called profession and especially compared to guys like Frost or Cavett.

    There was never anything confrontational or tense about a Rose interview--just another sign of the decline of public discourse and intellectual rigor.

    That he slithered around and acted like a cheap imitation of Christopher Walken doing the Continental guy on SNL just makes it all that much more satisfying.

    The man, a lawyer by education I think, was the worst questioner of all time–two thirds of his interviews were him talking while the guest waited for him to finish.

    Then when the guest started answering Rose would interrupt mid-sentence

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  49. Mr. Anon says:
    @Rod1963
    Feh a glorified Larry King but still a empty suit with groping hands action.

    Really what some playing card manufacturer should do is make up a bunch of playing cards made up of the famous political and Hollywood perverts.

    We also need a action figure of pervy Joe Biden with groping hands action and butt buddy pelvic thrusting. A Slick Willie action figure will have dropping pants action along with another x-rated feature.

    When you stop and think about most of these are pieces of garbage, most of whom could die tomorrow and no would care. You if Weinstein died of a busted gut(he almost did when his lap band busted after attending 3 dinners in one night) people would just laugh and be the butt of jokes.

    Really what some playing card manufacturer should do is make up a bunch of playing cards made up of the famous political and Hollywood perverts.

    Sort of like baseball cards – with stats even – how many times they got to first, second, etc.

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  50. OT, but Inside Higher Ed has published an anonymous account of the ‘exhaustion’ from doing the ‘work’ of fighting microaggressions and other injustices in academia that’s worth reading: LINK

    Some highlights:

    I raced toward my Ph.D. in search of social protection, professional stability and financial freedom. Instead, I found early-career emotional, physical and mental exhaustion.

    Most of us [i.e. 'faculty of color'], instead, experience professional death by a thousand cuts. We spend our days ducking microaggressions, hurdling stereotypes and navigating emotional distress. Most of us will be denied tenure, and many will be too exhausted to protest if we managed to land a tenure-track job at all.

    I dreamed of rallying a group of like-minded thinkers to the same table so that we could make a plan to save the world. But that never happened.

    That last one is a shocker, I know. Who ever would have doubted that a group of like-minded SJWs at a liberal arts college would be too tired to do something so simple as saving the world?

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    Maybe they'd avoid early career exhaustion if they spent their formative years acquiring skills to help deal with academic adversity. Like becoming fluent in English, for instance.
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  51. @t
    OT: Chicago Police officer gets five years in prison. None of the media reports mention his race but based on his name and picture I'd say there's a 95% chance that he's Hispanic. A lot of these cops turn out to be Hispanic, police departments are increasing hispanic(35% percent of new Chicago cops are hispanic, 41% white, 17% black and 7% Asian) but I think hispanics are still overrepresented, some of that could be that Hispanic cops are younger and less likely to have desk jobs.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-chicago-cop-sentencing-excessive-force-20171117-story.html

    Back in the 1990s in Chicago, I once saw two cop cars roar up and four police officers jump out: a white, a black, a Latino, and an East Asian.

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    Okay, are you going to provide the punchline?
    , @Trelane
    I once saw three cops, one was black, one was white and the other was a blonde chick. It was 1970 and I was in my pajamas watching the Mod Squad.

    https://youtu.be/vBxTT2Th9s4
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    How long had you been going to that massage parlor?
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  52. Wilkey says:
    @Guy de Champlagne
    You're right that there probably isn't much hope for you. You're wrong that these figures were always rejected. You're just selectively told about the most antipathetic women in their lives rather than being given the full picture required to actually form a reasonable judgment about their behavior.

    You’re right that there probably isn’t much hope for you. You’re wrong that these figures were always rejected.

    LOL. Well uh gee, thanks.

    The problem isn’t that Rose, Weinstein, Spacey, etc. couldn’t get *a* woman (or man, in Spacey’s case) who met his criteria – it’s that one woman or man just wasn’t enough. That fat-ass pig Weinstein was married to a woman 24 years his junior. They started dating when she was 28 and he was 52. She is by all reports extremely attractive. But Weinstein couldn’t keep it in his pants.

    So who knows? Maybe there is hope for me. My wife is attractive and about a decade younger than me, so give me some credit, dude.

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    I don't know you personally obviously. But there is a ridiculous tendency for men to think that there being other high status men with multiple partners somehow makes it more likely for them to have high status too, when really all these things are zero sum games. The fact that some men get to have high status women for decades just means that there are other men who will never get them, when they would of if male desirability had a lifespan more on par with that of women.

    I still just can't get over how dumb conservatives are for going along with these accusations just because the targets happen to be liberal (for the time being).

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  53. @Another Realist
    Another one bites the dust. Still waiting for Bill Clinton to get nailed to the wall for the Lolita Express that he frequently flew on with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, another sleazy fecking Jew.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html

    One by one these liberal icons are falling like dominoes. Couldn't have happened to a better group of brain dead, morally bankrupt hypocrites.

    I've known this for years but the world is finally getting a true revelation, that the only two things the false religion of Liberalism worship are Greed and Lust. Everything else liberals do - often under the guise of "equality" and "justice", is just a cover up for all the greed and lust that really drive them. That's why they can't get away from all the hypocrisy.

    One by one these liberal icons are falling like dominoes. Couldn’t have happened to a better group of brain dead, morally bankrupt hypocrites.

    I’ve known this for years but the world is finally getting a true revelation, that the only two things the false religion of Liberalism worship are Greed and Lust. Everything else liberals do – often under the guise of “equality” and “justice”, is just a cover up for all the greed and lust that really drive them. That’s why they can’t get away from all the hypocrisy.

    What do you think about the theory I’ve seen floating around that there’s a broader plan behind this wave of ‘true revelation’ in lefty circles?

    As I’ve seen it, the theory goes that great swathes of the Clinton camp are being systematically sacrificed on sex charges. The wave will crest with Billy C finally being called out for a big public shaming.

    This (theoretically) serves the American left’s purposes in two ways.

    First, it clears the political decks of lingering, and now counterproductive, Clinton influences. The Dems will finally be free of them.

    Second, it’s battlespace prep for impeaching/otherwise ousting Trump in 2018 on sexual harassment charges.

    Plausible? Or is it all just a spontaneous surge of SJW energy that’s been building for a long time?

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    Very plausible, and right in line with the four-step process outlined by Lifson on the American Thinker website a few days ago. They are getting rid of the Clintons and otherwise clearing the decks so they can go after Trump without having to worry about any other major issue on their side. Why else now, and so many falling so quickly, like dominos?
    , @EdwardM
    This is absolutely their strategy. Steve posted about this, as have commentors (including me).

    The fact that the lame accusations against Trump didn't stick before is only a small speed bump. They'll dredge up more "victims" -- fancifully invented if necessary -- and perhaps refer to the new climate blah blah.
    , @Buzz Mohawk

    ...it’s battlespace prep for impeaching/otherwise ousting Trump in 2018 on sexual harassment charges.
     
    Let's hope they haven't dug up anything too weird. Daddy likes his daughter a little too much. (He's honest about it though, so it's highly unlikely that there is a problem.)

    You can't blame him for recognizing beauty, but still, he's her father.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWxkauh6lyA
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  54. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    I first saw Charlie Rose in mid 80s on late night (I think) CBS show. So, I'd be up at 2 am, and Rose would be interviewing some physicist about magnetic something or other.
    I liked this Rose. He seemed a straight shooter, just a guy doing his job.

    But then, he turned into a brand. He was the serious guy who interviewed thinkers, writers, artists, actors(and not mere entertainers), composers, academics, and etc.
    Considering the alternatives on TV, his show was probably one of the best shows on TV since Dick Cavett. There weren't many worthy interview shows on TV. Bill Moyers used to fill the role, but he was never was hip. After Rose, I suppose there was Larry King, but that was barely low-middle-brow. So, Rose show offered something half-intelligent on TV. But it also got increasingly pompous.

    Also, after awhile, there were no surprises. It would have been better if Rose passed out drinks so everyone could get drunk and drop inhibitions and speak honestly. Instead, we got intelligent talk(like on NPR) but the usual talking points on any subject matter. No one came on the show to spill any secrets. It was mostly to stick to official talking points or flatter one another... like actors, director, producer coming on the show and remarking how they are all so wonderful and talented.

    But the really icky stuff was the pandering. I recall David Remnick was once on and they were talking about the Serbian-Bosnian crisis. And Rose asked Remnick. "How do you.................... as a Jew............. yabba dabba doo..." It was like Remnick, being a member of the Shoah Tribe, was intrinsically privy("as a Jew")to some deep wisdom about human tragedy. Those pregnant pauses, the pious gestures, and etc. I mean it was icky.
    As for Remnick, he just played along. I suppose people can become morally spoiled too, and guys like Remnick feel morally entitled.
    But then, Remnick plays this game too, esp in his tribute to Springsteen the saint of sausaged buns.
    Bunch of globbies massaging each other's egos.

    As highlighted on this blog, Lee Kuan Yew veered off of the usual talking points. Chahlie seemed a little uncomfortable and quickly changed the topic.

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    As highlighted on this blog, Lee Kuan Yew veered off of the usual talking points. Chahlie seemed a little uncomfortable and quickly changed the topic.

    LOL. I remember one of them.

    Lee said something like. "Japanese good at team work. If Korean and Japanese meet one on one, Korean guy beat up Japanese guy. But as a team, Japanese beat Koreans."
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  55. neprof says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Back in the 1990s in Chicago, I once saw two cop cars roar up and four police officers jump out: a white, a black, a Latino, and an East Asian.

    Okay, are you going to provide the punchline?

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  56. This article from 13 years ago turned up on my twitter feed today:

    http://observer.com/2004/10/revolt-of-foxs-hens/amp/

    “Each host has around him lots of good-looking, unmarried women. Women are excited by power, let’s be totally clear. The temptation to fuck your staff is overwhelming—literally, almost overwhelming. You just can’t imagine how sexually out of control it is. A quarter of the women are bisexual. They’re good-looking, they’re totally without restraint. Nobody has family around, you’re on the road traveling, and you’re making $7 million a year and they’re making $65,000 a year. That’s three grand a month to live in the big city.”

    This dynamic works for the 50s 60s anchors and the 20s female interns. It isn’t so good for 40s women.

    And now they can zap the old guys (and hence the young women) by dishing the dirt.

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  57. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @t
    OT: Chicago Police officer gets five years in prison. None of the media reports mention his race but based on his name and picture I'd say there's a 95% chance that he's Hispanic. A lot of these cops turn out to be Hispanic, police departments are increasing hispanic(35% percent of new Chicago cops are hispanic, 41% white, 17% black and 7% Asian) but I think hispanics are still overrepresented, some of that could be that Hispanic cops are younger and less likely to have desk jobs.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-chicago-cop-sentencing-excessive-force-20171117-story.html

    A lot of these cops turn out to be Hispanic, police departments are increasing hispanic

    Police is working class profession in many respects.

    As Chicago becomes more yuppie, its whites in nice areas don’t raise kids to be cops. Chicago used to have huge white working class population. Many left for suburbs, and those who resettle tend to be yuppies.

    As for blacks, they don’t have working class culture. More like welfare culture or crime culture.

    So, that leaves the Hispanics and Mesos as the new working class segment of the city.

    They are like the new Irish.

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    Think you nailed it there.
    , @Anonymous
    Also, one needs an absolutely clean record to be a police officer.

    That rules out, at the very like least, the majority of the 'pool' of blacks.
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  58. Lurker says:
    @Chief Seattle
    Charlie Rose! This is a full-on media purge. It fits the theory perfectly that the true powers have dirt on anyone allowed to rise to national prominence. And the powers are pissed that instead of delivering Hillary into power, they allowed Trump to win. So they made a decision - if these media hacks can't sway public opinion with the full force of monopoly distribution behind them then it's time to get new hacks. The old hacks will be "dishonorably discharged", tossed aside with suitable loss of respect, career, and opportunity so as to make an example for anyone else that decides to fail in their true role.

    It saves on severance pay and pensions too.

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    These are the people willing to spend $150 million to make Jeb appear competitive. I doubt they're worried about 401K vesting or paying off a few golden handcuffs. This is a house cleaning and it's meant to send a clear message: if the you media hacks get complacent again we'll throw you out too, and the only ass you'll be grabbing will be your own. There's going to be a re-calibration of media message and we're going to see some young blood given a chance to make a name for themselves, maybe even pointed towards a Watergate to gain some credibility. Of course, despite appearances they will be wholly owned, and will be expected to whole-heartedly justify the next war, bailout, or candidate when needed.
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  59. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Mr. Anon
    I remember once, back in the early oughts, seeing Charlie Rose interview Le Moustache himself - Thomas Friedman - who was discoursing on the absolute necessity to invade and occupy Iraq, for..........reasons, of some sort. It was the apotheosis - almost a pure distillation - of New World Order cluster-f**kery. His mid-to-high-browedness - like that of NPR - is really just humbuggery.

    Yeah, I also used to watch Rose regularly in the 90s and early 2000s, but too many appearances by clowns like Friedman made the show more like a platform for NWO.

    Still, there was worse to come. Tavis Smiley, sheeeeeeeiiit. I think he had Cornel West on every other show. Couldn’t stand that huckster. At least Rose had some interest in stuff.
    Smiley’s attitude was ‘gots to have me’. So, everything is about how it best flatters blacks somehow.

    Now, one would think there would be lots of black male creeps too. I mean if Cosby, America’s dad, was up to so many hanky panky, imagine the other blacks.

    I guess women figure it might be construed as ‘racist’.

    But with so many charges against Jewish men and homos, who knows? The other shoe might fall too.
    Shoo!

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  60. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    While it’s certainly true that Charlie Rose was never one to be confrontation and he had a thoroughly mainstream perspective on the issues people visiting Unz Review care about, he undeniably had a graceful style. Go look at his interviews with David Brooks. No one else was doing (or could do) that sort of thing. Looking around either on Cable TV, or NPR, or any other media it’s hard to think of people better than him. It’s tempting to kick a man while he’s down, and say what you want about his sexual proclivities, but the man knew how to put on a good upper middle brow tv show.

    ok here’s a clip for you haters:

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    Wes Anderson had that short scene in The Royal Tenenbaums with the Charlie Rose parody. Checking YouTube, apparently Anderson included a longer Charlie Rose parody on the DVD:
    https://youtu.be/gX2M0y6EH-A
    , @Anon
    While it’s certainly true that Charlie Rose was never one to be confrontation

    He could be on black issues.

    Dinesh D'souza was on for a 15 min segment for his book END OF HISTORY, and Rose grimaced and glared as D'souza argued that Democratic blacks were cynical operatives who push 'racism' narrative for political and material gain.

    Rose also got pretty curt with Oliver Stone. JFK really pissed off Rose. He thought Stone went to far in fingering too many people. I think it was discussion over HEAVEN OR EARTH where Rose asked Stone if he's a Buddhist now or what, and Stone couldn't give a straight answer, and Rose got mean.

    But the funniest meany stuff from Rose with was Ralph Reed. This was hilarious. Rose set a trap. On Reed's first appearance, Rose was all smiles and hugs. And Reed thought, 'gee, maybe Charlie likes me.' So, Reed had lowered defenses, and then, Rose totally lunged at him and tore him to pieces in the next appearances. Rose could be one cunning son of a gun.

    And some of the interviews were really funny. It's just chemistry. It's like Ebert and Siskel set off sparks. And some guests made the Rose show come alive. Philbin was one even though I never saw his show.

    https://charlierose.com/videos/12232
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  61. @Rosamond Vincy
    It's probable Reagan was faithful when he was married. When he was not, apparently he got around.

    Pretty much. Piper Laurie said he hit on her in a rather arrogant way, but she didn’t seem at all traumatized by it. Just unimpressed.

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    That's a common complaint, both for men they reject and for men they give in to. I can't tell you how many women I've heard say about first impressions of husbands/boyfriends something like: "I couldn't stand him," "he was full of himself," "he was so cocky," "he was so arrogant," "he was such a jerk."

    They have a real need to belittle come-ons. For instance, I heard Elizabeth Taylor criticize Richard Burton's opening line. The same guy she married twice.

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  62. OT: “Racial/Ethnic Differences in Non-Work at Work”

    http://www.nber.org/papers/w23096

    “Evidence from the American Time Use Survey 2003-12 suggests the existence of small but statistically significant racial/ethnic differences in time spent not working at the workplace. Minorities, especially men, spend a greater fraction of their workdays not working than do white non-Hispanics. These differences are robust to the inclusion of large numbers of demographic, industry, occupation, time and geographic controls. They do not vary by union status, public-private sector attachment, pay method or age; nor do they arise from the effects of equal-employment enforcement or geographic differences in racial/ethnic representation. The findings imply that measures of the adjusted wage disadvantages of minority employees are overstated by about 10 percent.”

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  63. guest says:
    @Hail
    https://twitter.com/charlierose/status/932747035069034496

    I apologize deeply, and I think all women should be believed always. But these ones are liars.

    Love, Chuck Rose.

    By the way, why is it important the women know you hear them? Are you in couples’ therapy together?

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  64. @neprof
    Isn't that how it suppose to work? At least in a cordial sense?

    Pretty much. Piper Laurie said he hit on her in a rather arrogant way, but she didn’t seem at all traumatized by it. Just unimpressed.

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  65. Never Forget.

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    Thanks.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Yeah, that was the show I remembered.

    Thomas Friedman: Bubble-Head.

    That a**hole should be stripped down to his skivvies, handed a bowie-knife, and parachuted out of a C-130 over Syria.

    , @Anon
    Ok... 9/11 happened.... so the US must go into Iraq that had no Alqaeda and bring down Hussein(bad guy but who kept order) and then make it a haven for terrorists and then go door to door to...

    Sheesh.

    Never mind that Osama and his team were all built by US and Saudis in the war against USSR. And then, they were meant to be used as Sunni force against Iran. But it didn't go according to plan.

    Also, if any nation should have been taken out for having ties with terrorists, wasn't it Saudi Arabia? Why Iraq?

    And Friedman was later pissed at Trump for swearing go after ISIS. Friedman wanted ISIS to run amok in Syria to mess up Assad's secular regime.

    This Friedman is a real lowlife scuzz.
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  66. guest says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist
    OT, but Inside Higher Ed has published an anonymous account of the 'exhaustion' from doing the 'work' of fighting microaggressions and other injustices in academia that's worth reading: LINK

    Some highlights:


    I raced toward my Ph.D. in search of social protection, professional stability and financial freedom. Instead, I found early-career emotional, physical and mental exhaustion.

     


    Most of us [i.e. 'faculty of color'], instead, experience professional death by a thousand cuts. We spend our days ducking microaggressions, hurdling stereotypes and navigating emotional distress. Most of us will be denied tenure, and many will be too exhausted to protest if we managed to land a tenure-track job at all.

     


    I dreamed of rallying a group of like-minded thinkers to the same table so that we could make a plan to save the world. But that never happened.

     

    That last one is a shocker, I know. Who ever would have doubted that a group of like-minded SJWs at a liberal arts college would be too tired to do something so simple as saving the world?

    Maybe they’d avoid early career exhaustion if they spent their formative years acquiring skills to help deal with academic adversity. Like becoming fluent in English, for instance.

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  67. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Chief Seattle
    Charlie Rose! This is a full-on media purge. It fits the theory perfectly that the true powers have dirt on anyone allowed to rise to national prominence. And the powers are pissed that instead of delivering Hillary into power, they allowed Trump to win. So they made a decision - if these media hacks can't sway public opinion with the full force of monopoly distribution behind them then it's time to get new hacks. The old hacks will be "dishonorably discharged", tossed aside with suitable loss of respect, career, and opportunity so as to make an example for anyone else that decides to fail in their true role.

    I wonder to what extent this purge is a knock-on effect of Hillary losing the election.

    With the Clinton juggernaut stopped, donations to the Clinton foundation dried up. That meant fewer sinecures available for left-leaning pundits. That made high-level journalism gigs even more precious, and guys like Charlie Rose and Mark Halperin were hogging multiple, lucrative gigs each.

    Plus, with the Clintons brought low, it was open season on Weinstein, and with Weinstein felled, his hush money to journalists must have dried up too.

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    Bill Clinton is going to visit Puerto Rico and
    lend time, fund raising and expetise to efforts at recovering from the devastation
    caused by Hurricane Maria. New York and Florida support for HRC or a repeat of the successful Haiti relief project?
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  68. @Wilkey
    You’re right that there probably isn’t much hope for you. You’re wrong that these figures were always rejected.

    LOL. Well uh gee, thanks.

    The problem isn't that Rose, Weinstein, Spacey, etc. couldn't get *a* woman (or man, in Spacey's case) who met his criteria - it's that one woman or man just wasn't enough. That fat-ass pig Weinstein was married to a woman 24 years his junior. They started dating when she was 28 and he was 52. She is by all reports extremely attractive. But Weinstein couldn't keep it in his pants.

    So who knows? Maybe there is hope for me. My wife is attractive and about a decade younger than me, so give me some credit, dude.

    I don’t know you personally obviously. But there is a ridiculous tendency for men to think that there being other high status men with multiple partners somehow makes it more likely for them to have high status too, when really all these things are zero sum games. The fact that some men get to have high status women for decades just means that there are other men who will never get them, when they would of if male desirability had a lifespan more on par with that of women.

    I still just can’t get over how dumb conservatives are for going along with these accusations just because the targets happen to be liberal (for the time being).

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    I still just can’t get over how dumb conservatives are for going along with these accusations just because the targets happen to be liberal (for the time being).

    A) Most of the establishment is leftist, at least from an iSteve perspective.
    B) Leftists are a lot more likely to be pigs. They are ideologically contemptuous of procreation and traditions (e.g., monogamy) that support it.

    Combine the two and of course most of the perps are going to be on the Left. I happen to think that virtually all of the current allegations are true, and the evidence tends to support the claims. So it's not a matter of the Left rolling out a bunch of bogus claims against a lot conservatives because they simply didn't happen.

    "Conservatives" like Roy Moore? Well he's a clown and a creep in a whole lot of ways, but at least say this for him: all but one of the allegations against him predate his marriage. Once he tied the knot he appears to have stopped being a creep (sexually at least) and settled down.

    , @L Woods
    Yes, if only conservatives rushed to the defense of media power brokers that have worked ceaselessly to destroy them for generations, they’d surely exhibit gratitude and return the favor.
    , @guest
    "just because the targets happen to be liberal (for the time being)"

    They are mostly liberal, but not entirely. Could it possibly have escaped your notice that they're going after Roy Moore right now, and went hard after Trump in '16? Somehow, those guys didn't fal. Yet liberals are falling all the time. It's almost as if some people have figured out how to fight back and stay out of the way of their enemies destroying themselves.

    Anyway, about the "for the time being," depends on from when you're counting. Because you're probably thinking post-Harvey, but the current hysteria could easily be pushed back to the feminist jihad on Fox News. Remember that? I didn't give a fig, and even though they're part of Conservatism, Inc.

    There was also Cosby, who was fair game partly because he spoke out repeatedly against black culture. And I already mentioned Trump. Pussygrabgate was one thing. Alicia Machado was supposed to be the frickin' kill shot, and that was pseudo-sexual harassment. It's no secret this stuff can be turned against the other side.

    But for now, it's one of the most powerful weapons ever turned against the left. Firstly, because they really believe this stuff. Secondly, because they always double down. I don't see the point in not using it simply because it could be turned against right. It already has been used against the right and will continue to be used no matter what we do.

    The only dark cloud is that it will benefit feminism long-term. That juggernaut must be stopped. But I'm not too worried.

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  69. guest says:
    @Rosamond Vincy
    Pretty much. Piper Laurie said he hit on her in a rather arrogant way, but she didn't seem at all traumatized by it. Just unimpressed.

    That’s a common complaint, both for men they reject and for men they give in to. I can’t tell you how many women I’ve heard say about first impressions of husbands/boyfriends something like: “I couldn’t stand him,” “he was full of himself,” “he was so cocky,” “he was so arrogant,” “he was such a jerk.”

    They have a real need to belittle come-ons. For instance, I heard Elizabeth Taylor criticize Richard Burton’s opening line. The same guy she married twice.

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    I once heard a younger woman who barely remembered Reagan's presidency make a memorable comment when they showed a clip from one of his films on TV. She said something like "Whoa, I never knew he was THAT hot!"

    In any case, it sounds like the Piper Laurie incident involved attempted seduction, not attempted rape. Both men and women knew the difference back then.
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  70. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    People’s reality

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  71. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Steve is not *happy* with the process so far

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFE2CCfAP1o

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  72. @Lurker
    It saves on severance pay and pensions too.

    These are the people willing to spend $150 million to make Jeb appear competitive. I doubt they’re worried about 401K vesting or paying off a few golden handcuffs. This is a house cleaning and it’s meant to send a clear message: if the you media hacks get complacent again we’ll throw you out too, and the only ass you’ll be grabbing will be your own. There’s going to be a re-calibration of media message and we’re going to see some young blood given a chance to make a name for themselves, maybe even pointed towards a Watergate to gain some credibility. Of course, despite appearances they will be wholly owned, and will be expected to whole-heartedly justify the next war, bailout, or candidate when needed.

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  73. @Clifford Brown
    Never Forget.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwFaSpca_3Q

    Thanks.

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  74. @Anonymous
    Well now I know why he was nicknamed "Rosebud."

    The arc of Rose’s life is somewhere between Seed of Chucky and Curse of Chucky. In other news, Cult of Chucky is finally cancelled.

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  75. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anon
    My mother has a (male) friend who worked for Rose’s show doing research. The man does practically nothing.

    Is any research necessary for that show?

    It's about asking generic questions to famous people whom Rose interviewed many times already. I mean, what does one have to know about Tarantino or Scorsese to ask generic questions?
    Or if Rose has on guests to talk about Iran and Israel, we know all the talking points and we know we're gonna hear the same generic questions and answers.
    And Rose knows who butters his bread. There are lots of things he can't say.

    One interesting thing I remember. He did a show with Watson and Wilson on Darwin, and he ended the show by saying it was the show he's most proud of. Maybe he liked that show because Wilson and Watson could surprise somewhat instead of totally sticking to the PC boilerplate.

    https://youtu.be/95CIlpfDSag?t=5m25s

    And according to Roger Waters, Rose once told him that he can't discuss certain matters because of orders from upstairs.

    https://youtu.be/v7jcvfbLoIA?t=6m1s

    And Charlie Rose show had value as platform for cultural figures in their twilight yrs. The last of Mailer, Sontag, Vidal, Sarris, and etc were featured on his show. No other TV shows would have them. To that extent, it respected Age in a culture that generally doesn't.

    https://charlierose.com/videos/13393

    https://charlierose.com/videos/291

    What Roger Waters says there is very cutting edge…………for 1985. Just the usual trite lefty boilerplate: some warmed over Chomsky, evil “corporations”, etc. – stuff that sounds deep and insightful to college freshmen.

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    I don't like his politics either. Waters is a globalist and pushes for colonization of EU by non-whites.

    But he is right on the West Bank issue. I mean, the Palestinians should at least be given that.

    What I don't get is this. Defense of West Bank is NATIONALIST and anti-imperialist. It denounces Zionist occupation and colonization of West Bank, the last remaining Palestinian territory. (Gaza is too small to count.) So, if Palestinian nationhood is justified, why don't small European nations have a right to survive? All European nations are small except Russia.
    , @Forbes
    If you've never watched Roger Water's The Wall--Live in Berlin, it's filled with what can only be called Nazi art direction--imagery, costumes, choreography. I thought it very disturbing, bizarre.
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  76. @Chief Seattle
    Charlie Rose! This is a full-on media purge. It fits the theory perfectly that the true powers have dirt on anyone allowed to rise to national prominence. And the powers are pissed that instead of delivering Hillary into power, they allowed Trump to win. So they made a decision - if these media hacks can't sway public opinion with the full force of monopoly distribution behind them then it's time to get new hacks. The old hacks will be "dishonorably discharged", tossed aside with suitable loss of respect, career, and opportunity so as to make an example for anyone else that decides to fail in their true role.

    Most of the chapters in the 2017 Perv Purge have played out over an extended period of time — major allegations build up over days or weeks, finally leading up to the ultimate responses from accused and his employer. In contrast, it had only been a few hours since I last checked the news when I learned that Charlie Rose had eight accusers and was already fired. Something feels different about this one. I’m curious to know, when the dust settles, whether we’ll be able to piece together why some fell much more quickly than others.

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    I think this is thrilling. Let it all out--the more grime and filth coming out the better, whatever party, whatever ideology.

    These dirtballs have stood in judgement of the White working class for decades, have demoralized us, made us look like fools at every turn and have left us susceptible to addictions and despairs--they want to kills us off, replace us.

    We knew always they were hypocrites in so many ways--where they chose to live, their many divorces, their depravities, etc., etc.--but let it all out.

    More strategically, this is an extension of Sailer's fracturing of the progressive coalition. The fewer white men in the higher ranks of the progressives, the better for the country and the White working class.

    Next!

    , @Jack D
    The difference is that the witch hunt has gained momentum. At the beginning of a witch hunting panic, the usual rules apply - X has been accused of being a witch, but we'll wait for the facts before we make a decision. As the witch trials gain momentum (and this is one of the ways you know that you are in a witch burning hysteria), an accusation becomes THE SAME as a conviction - to be accused is to be guilty. There is no need to wait for the facts. In fact it would be WRONG to wait for the facts while witches are among us and are souring our milk and causing calves to be stillborn. Do you think that the accusers, these poor wronged tortured women, could be LYING? What kind of monster would doubt them. Anyone who says we should wait for the facts is probably himself a monster or in sympathy with monsters. Are you one perhaps, comrade, someone who is urging us to "go slow" even as the wreckers continue their evil work? No, I didn't think so - I am glad to hear that you no longer favor such an approach when we are faced with such dire imminent threats. Wreckers are to be dragged off to Lubyanka and shot immediately. There's no point in even torturing them for a confession anymore since we already know they are guilty.

    Moral panics/ witch hunts are a well documented aspect of human societies ranging from the most primitive to the most sophisticated and they all follow a certain arc (one aspect of which is that they all ultimately fizzle, so becoming a victim is largely a matter of bad luck). Usually things that are that are bad yet universal are deeply imbedded in our DNA and are the result of flaws in our programming. Something that is generally protective and helpful in small doses gets magnified and turned into something destructive.
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  77. Mr. Anon says:
    @Clifford Brown
    Never Forget.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwFaSpca_3Q

    Yeah, that was the show I remembered.

    Thomas Friedman: Bubble-Head.

    That a**hole should be stripped down to his skivvies, handed a bowie-knife, and parachuted out of a C-130 over Syria.

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    Here's the late Alexander Cockburn in 2007, calling Friedman "pompous" and a "nitwit."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qjnjw3YIp8
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  78. Trelane says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Back in the 1990s in Chicago, I once saw two cop cars roar up and four police officers jump out: a white, a black, a Latino, and an East Asian.

    I once saw three cops, one was black, one was white and the other was a blonde chick. It was 1970 and I was in my pajamas watching the Mod Squad.

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  79. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    It should be remembered that part of the reason we even have large numbers of women in professional environments that were once exclusively or overwhelmingly dominated by men is due to powerful older men like Charlie Rose. The prospect of lots of younger women in professionally subordinate positions and fewer male competitors is no doubt irresistibly enticing to powerful older men, whose support has been critical for promoting feminism and female participation in professional careers. It’s one of the tacit perks of men above the glass ceiling. Without the sexual opportunities that this change afforded, there wouldn’t have been support for it by powerful men. The headache and hassle of women in the workplace wouldn’t be worth it, and having more women would be a competitive disadvantage. There was basically tacit collusion and cartel like behavior by powerful men whereby they all agreed to allow their companies and organizations to become less competitive by hiring weaker employees, in exchange for the perk of having lots of younger women around you in subordinate positions.

    Now it looks like this perk is being taken away, removing the original rationale for powerful men to even support feminism.

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  80. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @WowJustWow
    Most of the chapters in the 2017 Perv Purge have played out over an extended period of time -- major allegations build up over days or weeks, finally leading up to the ultimate responses from accused and his employer. In contrast, it had only been a few hours since I last checked the news when I learned that Charlie Rose had eight accusers and was already fired. Something feels different about this one. I'm curious to know, when the dust settles, whether we'll be able to piece together why some fell much more quickly than others.

    I think this is thrilling. Let it all out–the more grime and filth coming out the better, whatever party, whatever ideology.

    These dirtballs have stood in judgement of the White working class for decades, have demoralized us, made us look like fools at every turn and have left us susceptible to addictions and despairs–they want to kills us off, replace us.

    We knew always they were hypocrites in so many ways–where they chose to live, their many divorces, their depravities, etc., etc.–but let it all out.

    More strategically, this is an extension of Sailer’s fracturing of the progressive coalition. The fewer white men in the higher ranks of the progressives, the better for the country and the White working class.

    Next!

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  81. @guest
    That's a common complaint, both for men they reject and for men they give in to. I can't tell you how many women I've heard say about first impressions of husbands/boyfriends something like: "I couldn't stand him," "he was full of himself," "he was so cocky," "he was so arrogant," "he was such a jerk."

    They have a real need to belittle come-ons. For instance, I heard Elizabeth Taylor criticize Richard Burton's opening line. The same guy she married twice.

    I once heard a younger woman who barely remembered Reagan’s presidency make a memorable comment when they showed a clip from one of his films on TV. She said something like “Whoa, I never knew he was THAT hot!”

    In any case, it sounds like the Piper Laurie incident involved attempted seduction, not attempted rape. Both men and women knew the difference back then.

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  82. njguy73 says:
    @Mr. Anon
    Yeah, that was the show I remembered.

    Thomas Friedman: Bubble-Head.

    That a**hole should be stripped down to his skivvies, handed a bowie-knife, and parachuted out of a C-130 over Syria.

    Here’s the late Alexander Cockburn in 2007, calling Friedman “pompous” and a “nitwit.”

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  83. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @anon
    As highlighted on this blog, Lee Kuan Yew veered off of the usual talking points. Chahlie seemed a little uncomfortable and quickly changed the topic.

    As highlighted on this blog, Lee Kuan Yew veered off of the usual talking points. Chahlie seemed a little uncomfortable and quickly changed the topic.

    LOL. I remember one of them.

    Lee said something like. “Japanese good at team work. If Korean and Japanese meet one on one, Korean guy beat up Japanese guy. But as a team, Japanese beat Koreans.”

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  84. utu says:

    Rose could not contain himself when interviewing Anne Bancroft.

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  85. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Mr. Anon
    What Roger Waters says there is very cutting edge............for 1985. Just the usual trite lefty boilerplate: some warmed over Chomsky, evil "corporations", etc. - stuff that sounds deep and insightful to college freshmen.

    I don’t like his politics either. Waters is a globalist and pushes for colonization of EU by non-whites.

    But he is right on the West Bank issue. I mean, the Palestinians should at least be given that.

    What I don’t get is this. Defense of West Bank is NATIONALIST and anti-imperialist. It denounces Zionist occupation and colonization of West Bank, the last remaining Palestinian territory. (Gaza is too small to count.) So, if Palestinian nationhood is justified, why don’t small European nations have a right to survive? All European nations are small except Russia.

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    I really don't care about Palestine.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    But he is right on the West Bank issue. I mean, the Palestinians should at least be given that.
     
    But only the Christian ones.

    It denounces Zionist occupation and colonization of West Bank...
     
    ... of the Jordan, and the Mediterranean.

    Nobody ever explains where those 6.1m Zionists are to be relocated, but the obvious choice would be for them to follow Natalie and Chaim here.

    No thanks. They can stay right where they are.

    (BTW, Natalie is married to a Millipied. Are human-insect unions recognized anywhere? Are they consummated by-- pardon me-- buggery?)

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  86. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Anon
    While it's certainly true that Charlie Rose was never one to be confrontation and he had a thoroughly mainstream perspective on the issues people visiting Unz Review care about, he undeniably had a graceful style. Go look at his interviews with David Brooks. No one else was doing (or could do) that sort of thing. Looking around either on Cable TV, or NPR, or any other media it's hard to think of people better than him. It's tempting to kick a man while he's down, and say what you want about his sexual proclivities, but the man knew how to put on a good upper middle brow tv show.

    ok here's a clip for you haters:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwFaSpca_3Q

    Wes Anderson had that short scene in The Royal Tenenbaums with the Charlie Rose parody. Checking YouTube, apparently Anderson included a longer Charlie Rose parody on the DVD:

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  87. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Clifford Brown
    Never Forget.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwFaSpca_3Q

    Ok… 9/11 happened…. so the US must go into Iraq that had no Alqaeda and bring down Hussein(bad guy but who kept order) and then make it a haven for terrorists and then go door to door to…

    Sheesh.

    Never mind that Osama and his team were all built by US and Saudis in the war against USSR. And then, they were meant to be used as Sunni force against Iran. But it didn’t go according to plan.

    Also, if any nation should have been taken out for having ties with terrorists, wasn’t it Saudi Arabia? Why Iraq?

    And Friedman was later pissed at Trump for swearing go after ISIS. Friedman wanted ISIS to run amok in Syria to mess up Assad’s secular regime.

    This Friedman is a real lowlife scuzz.

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  88. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Does this mean Rose is over? Or will he survive?

    Brian Williams and Zakaria survived.

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  89. Wilkey says:
    @Guy de Champlagne
    I don't know you personally obviously. But there is a ridiculous tendency for men to think that there being other high status men with multiple partners somehow makes it more likely for them to have high status too, when really all these things are zero sum games. The fact that some men get to have high status women for decades just means that there are other men who will never get them, when they would of if male desirability had a lifespan more on par with that of women.

    I still just can't get over how dumb conservatives are for going along with these accusations just because the targets happen to be liberal (for the time being).

    I still just can’t get over how dumb conservatives are for going along with these accusations just because the targets happen to be liberal (for the time being).

    A) Most of the establishment is leftist, at least from an iSteve perspective.
    B) Leftists are a lot more likely to be pigs. They are ideologically contemptuous of procreation and traditions (e.g., monogamy) that support it.

    Combine the two and of course most of the perps are going to be on the Left. I happen to think that virtually all of the current allegations are true, and the evidence tends to support the claims. So it’s not a matter of the Left rolling out a bunch of bogus claims against a lot conservatives because they simply didn’t happen.

    “Conservatives” like Roy Moore? Well he’s a clown and a creep in a whole lot of ways, but at least say this for him: all but one of the allegations against him predate his marriage. Once he tied the knot he appears to have stopped being a creep (sexually at least) and settled down.

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  90. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    While it's certainly true that Charlie Rose was never one to be confrontation and he had a thoroughly mainstream perspective on the issues people visiting Unz Review care about, he undeniably had a graceful style. Go look at his interviews with David Brooks. No one else was doing (or could do) that sort of thing. Looking around either on Cable TV, or NPR, or any other media it's hard to think of people better than him. It's tempting to kick a man while he's down, and say what you want about his sexual proclivities, but the man knew how to put on a good upper middle brow tv show.

    ok here's a clip for you haters:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwFaSpca_3Q

    While it’s certainly true that Charlie Rose was never one to be confrontation

    He could be on black issues.

    Dinesh D’souza was on for a 15 min segment for his book END OF HISTORY, and Rose grimaced and glared as D’souza argued that Democratic blacks were cynical operatives who push ‘racism’ narrative for political and material gain.

    Rose also got pretty curt with Oliver Stone. JFK really pissed off Rose. He thought Stone went to far in fingering too many people. I think it was discussion over HEAVEN OR EARTH where Rose asked Stone if he’s a Buddhist now or what, and Stone couldn’t give a straight answer, and Rose got mean.

    But the funniest meany stuff from Rose with was Ralph Reed. This was hilarious. Rose set a trap. On Reed’s first appearance, Rose was all smiles and hugs. And Reed thought, ‘gee, maybe Charlie likes me.’ So, Reed had lowered defenses, and then, Rose totally lunged at him and tore him to pieces in the next appearances. Rose could be one cunning son of a gun.

    And some of the interviews were really funny. It’s just chemistry. It’s like Ebert and Siskel set off sparks. And some guests made the Rose show come alive. Philbin was one even though I never saw his show.

    https://charlierose.com/videos/12232

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    But the funniest meany stuff from Rose with was Ralph Reed. This was hilarious. Rose set a trap. On Reed’s first appearance, Rose was all smiles and hugs. And Reed thought, ‘gee, maybe Charlie likes me.’ So, Reed had lowered defenses, and then, Rose totally lunged at him and tore him to pieces in the next appearances. Rose could be one cunning son of a gun.

    He had Reed on as a guest 27x over a period of 14 years. Somehow I doubt Reed finds Rose all that intimidating.
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  91. ChrisD says:
    @Chief Seattle
    Charlie Rose! This is a full-on media purge. It fits the theory perfectly that the true powers have dirt on anyone allowed to rise to national prominence. And the powers are pissed that instead of delivering Hillary into power, they allowed Trump to win. So they made a decision - if these media hacks can't sway public opinion with the full force of monopoly distribution behind them then it's time to get new hacks. The old hacks will be "dishonorably discharged", tossed aside with suitable loss of respect, career, and opportunity so as to make an example for anyone else that decides to fail in their true role.

    And these old stale white male leftists will be replaced with younger, more fierce women who shall become Rachel Maddows Mk II across the American media machine rabidly shilling for more female presidents and senators. Sounds plausible actually.

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  92. Charlie is the patient zero of this. So many jobs in so many places over so many years, and the whole time winkingly infamous. And now he gets disappeared in an hour. So the action moves to the all the other dudes in all those places who knew about Charlie. Which is every dude in every place. And 90% of the women. No one will be left standing. Andrew Sullivan thought Trump was the extinction level event. Turns out it’s Charlie. Now we really can defund PBS because Big Bird knew too. Which was worse– Charlie’s fake laugh, his fake smile, his fake knowlwledge, or that fucking seriosity-signaling intro music? I say it was the accent.

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  93. Unit472 says:

    Wonder if the Newseum in DC will open a Hall of Horror and feature wax figures of the most depraved media stars in leering poses and or exposing themselves. I’m sure it would become one of the top tourist attractions in DC!

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    Well, a Hall of Horrors would be an actually interesting reason to visit the Newseum masoleum.
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  94. sabril says:
    @Wilkey
    The truth is that these stories all seriously depress me. If it's all but impossible for rich and/or famous guys like Charlie Rose, Kevin Spacey, and Louis CK to find hot, attractive young golddiggers then what hope do the rest of us less rich, less famous people have? I was hoping that in 20 years, as I launch into my 60s and our children are all grown, I could ditch my wife for some petite little 20-something year old, but I guess that's probably not gunna happen, no matter how rich I become between now and then.

    I agree with Guy that the odds are very much against you.

    Part of the problem is that in the past, pretty much all single women in their 20s were slender and childless and looking for a decent man to marry. These days, 70% of them are either overweight or single mothers or just looking to screw around with Chad or some combination thereof.

    The remaining girls are very much in demand and very aware of it. Why would they date a successful 60 year old when they are being pursued by legions of successful men in their 20s and 30s? The answer is that they wouldn’t, not unless you brought extreme amounts of wealth and social status to the table.

    You are actually lucky that you got married before this sh*tshow started. There is a silent epidemic of men in their 20s who simply can’t find any woman to date or marry.

    That said, I agree that for these celebrity men, you are seeing only the negative incidents. There are probably dozens of attractive young women who happily jumped into the casting couch with Harvey Weinstein and would been ecstatic to marry him. If you can achieve Weinstein-level power and success, you should have no problem finding your young sweetheart.

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    Wilkey is obviously being facetious. And yes, the modern dating market is a dystopian nightmare if you’re not plugged into a good social niche (and male, obviously).
    , @Thea
    Indeed, please see Georgina Chapman.
    , @Inquiring Mind
    There is this serious dating pool among 50-something women for 50-something men (and maybe a tad younger if men adjust their standards).

    It is a seriously desperate cohort of women, and they are a serious threat to a man's marriage. If you are in the slightest bit unhappy in your marriage, there are women who are extremely eager to please if you adjust your standards on who you want to cheat with.

    This is not to say that any of these women wouldn't want from you the same thing your wife expects from you, that is, putting a ring on it rather than some casual grope or romp. This is also not to say that any of them would not have unique and creative ways of making you unhappy after you have removed the ways you know about that your wife may make you unhappy.

    These women, as a class, pose a serious danger, especially for a beta-dude who knows he doesn't stand the slightest chance with a woman half his age and these women are (at least initially, I am guessing) very, very eager to please, which is so dangerously flattering to the ego of a beta-male, especially if the old lady has long stopped expressing the same romantic longing. Heck, many a beta-male has not encountered romantic longings from a woman -- they are Sirens from the Greek Myths, I tell you https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=simpsons+the+sirens&view=detail&mid=8172DA11EB2A9ED5AE778172DA11EB2A9ED5AE77&FORM=VIRE

    And if you think that the over 50's are not sexy, I have one word for you -- Osphena

    https://www.ispot.tv/ad/7fjC/osphena

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  95. @nebulafox
    Mike Pence. Probably Ted Cruz. To the best of my knowledge, Barack Obama? I think President Reagan got his womanizing out of his system during his Hollywood days.

    Barack Obama is most definitely NOT a womanizer.

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  96. NickG says:

    Rose has become something of a self parody; the affected gravitas, the pregnant extended pauses, a shtick.

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  97. @Anon
    Yeah, it does, but why are they all getting exposed now?

    Because the shrill logic of SJWism fundamentally fails to understand human nature, and as the years roll by the pent up self righteousness is like a faulty dam, slowly filling up. If you take an absolutist stand on matters of sexual, racial, political and cultural propriety, then every year amp up both the pettiness and fervor with which you attack supposed enemies of the protected classes, there is going to be collateral damage. Not everyone has privately lives a politically correct life and now the more hypocritical SJWs (and others who had no role in whipping up this moral panic) are being swept away.

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  98. Art says:
    @Anon
    I first saw Charlie Rose in mid 80s on late night (I think) CBS show. So, I'd be up at 2 am, and Rose would be interviewing some physicist about magnetic something or other.
    I liked this Rose. He seemed a straight shooter, just a guy doing his job.

    But then, he turned into a brand. He was the serious guy who interviewed thinkers, writers, artists, actors(and not mere entertainers), composers, academics, and etc.
    Considering the alternatives on TV, his show was probably one of the best shows on TV since Dick Cavett. There weren't many worthy interview shows on TV. Bill Moyers used to fill the role, but he was never was hip. After Rose, I suppose there was Larry King, but that was barely low-middle-brow. So, Rose show offered something half-intelligent on TV. But it also got increasingly pompous.

    Also, after awhile, there were no surprises. It would have been better if Rose passed out drinks so everyone could get drunk and drop inhibitions and speak honestly. Instead, we got intelligent talk(like on NPR) but the usual talking points on any subject matter. No one came on the show to spill any secrets. It was mostly to stick to official talking points or flatter one another... like actors, director, producer coming on the show and remarking how they are all so wonderful and talented.

    But the really icky stuff was the pandering. I recall David Remnick was once on and they were talking about the Serbian-Bosnian crisis. And Rose asked Remnick. "How do you.................... as a Jew............. yabba dabba doo..." It was like Remnick, being a member of the Shoah Tribe, was intrinsically privy("as a Jew")to some deep wisdom about human tragedy. Those pregnant pauses, the pious gestures, and etc. I mean it was icky.
    As for Remnick, he just played along. I suppose people can become morally spoiled too, and guys like Remnick feel morally entitled.
    But then, Remnick plays this game too, esp in his tribute to Springsteen the saint of sausaged buns.
    Bunch of globbies massaging each other's egos.

    I first saw Charlie Rose in mid 80s on late night (I think) CBS show. So, I’d be up at 2 am, and Rose would be interviewing some physicist about magnetic something or other.
    I liked this Rose. He seemed a straight shooter, just a guy doing his job.

    May I agree – he did many interesting interviews of people who were productive – architects, engineers, designers, scientists, builders, and captains of industry.

    I would not have picked Rose as a sexual predator. It is my impression that he thought that the women enjoyed the sex – that they were sexual pales.

    p.s. How many interviews did he do that slobbered over feminism?

    p.s. The left is just not honorable.

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  99. Svigor says:

    “Journalism,” such as it is, will improve with Rose gone. As others have noted, he talked way too much, and rarely pushed anybody left of Mussolini.

    Yes, he acted like a lecherous old goat and they kept showing up for more. Why are the rest of us supposed to care, under the post-’60s rules? Shouldn’t we all be celebrating Charlie is so comfortable with his sexuality? Shouldn’t we be glad he’s not uptight about this stuff?

    I can’t believe I still have to spell this out. Charlie Rose is leftist scum, in an industry run by leftist scum, with the job of promoting leftist scummery.

    Sorry, have to keep it short, I’m off to explain to US troops why they should cheer when they blow up an ISIS camp, to Jews why they should cheer when a Palestinian terrorist gets blown up, etc.

    Now it looks like this perk is being taken away, removing the original rationale for powerful men to even support feminism.

    Champagne Guy won’t get it, no matter how plain and obvious you make it.

    B) Leftists are a lot more likely to be pigs. They are ideologically contemptuous of procreation and traditions (e.g., monogamy) that support it.

    Pigs are also a lot more likely to swerve left because that’s where the air supremacy is; rightist pigs know they’re on their own. The dominant camp always attracts the pigs, anyway.

    But the funniest meany stuff from Rose with was Ralph Reed. This was hilarious. Rose set a trap. On Reed’s first appearance, Rose was all smiles and hugs. And Reed thought, ‘gee, maybe Charlie likes me.’ So, Reed had lowered defenses, and then, Rose totally lunged at him and tore him to pieces in the next appearances. Rose could be one cunning son of a gun.

    This is journalism 101. Hell, it’s cop 101. All smiles and banter to loosen up the subject, get him relaxed and talking. Then *bam* the cameras roll and there’s this hostile psychopath grilling you.

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  100. TTSSYF says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    One by one these liberal icons are falling like dominoes. Couldn’t have happened to a better group of brain dead, morally bankrupt hypocrites.

    I’ve known this for years but the world is finally getting a true revelation, that the only two things the false religion of Liberalism worship are Greed and Lust. Everything else liberals do – often under the guise of “equality” and “justice”, is just a cover up for all the greed and lust that really drive them. That’s why they can’t get away from all the hypocrisy.

     

    What do you think about the theory I've seen floating around that there's a broader plan behind this wave of 'true revelation' in lefty circles?

    As I've seen it, the theory goes that great swathes of the Clinton camp are being systematically sacrificed on sex charges. The wave will crest with Billy C finally being called out for a big public shaming.

    This (theoretically) serves the American left's purposes in two ways.

    First, it clears the political decks of lingering, and now counterproductive, Clinton influences. The Dems will finally be free of them.

    Second, it's battlespace prep for impeaching/otherwise ousting Trump in 2018 on sexual harassment charges.

    Plausible? Or is it all just a spontaneous surge of SJW energy that's been building for a long time?

    Very plausible, and right in line with the four-step process outlined by Lifson on the American Thinker website a few days ago. They are getting rid of the Clintons and otherwise clearing the decks so they can go after Trump without having to worry about any other major issue on their side. Why else now, and so many falling so quickly, like dominos?

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    They are getting rid of the Clintons and otherwise clearing the decks so they can go after Trump...
     
    Seems more of a self purge.

    I'm thinking the witch hunts worked pretty well against Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes; the Progressives figured they could use the tactic to clean their own stables, while cleaning out a few Republicans like Roy Moore and HW Bush; though claims against Repubs seem a bit scarce.

    They probably shot their ammo on Trump during the election.
    , @Forbes
    Seems they're gonna have to work harder to make the Clintons go away, Hillary's still coughing up tear-jerker conspiracy theories for her loss...
    , @James Braxton
    If so, it is a pretty stupid plan since stuff like that doesn't work on President Trump.
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  101. TTSSYF says:
    @Cagey Beast
    Yes, he acted like a lecherous old goat and they kept showing up for more. Why are the rest of us supposed to care, under the post-'60s rules? Shouldn't we all be celebrating Charlie is so comfortable with his sexuality? Shouldn't we be glad he's not uptight about this stuff?

    Agreed. While I can’t deny that part of me is enjoying seeing all of these supposed defenders of women’s rights and self-righteous hypocrites being hoisted on their own petards, ultimately I couldn’t care less whether someone’s butt was grabbed for five seconds eight years ago and actually think it’s a dangerous road to go down. If it wasn’t egregious enough to say or do something about it at the time, then don’t bring it up now and ruin someone’s career.

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    American culture is toxic stupidity embodied. Let it work in our favor for once.
    , @Forbes

    I couldn’t care less whether someone’s butt was grabbed for five seconds eight years ago and actually think it’s a dangerous road to go down.
     
    Think of it as the prog-left learning to live with their own rules. And pass the popcorn. The rest of us stopped with the adolescent ass-grabbing pranks when we stopped being adolescents.

    As for ruining someone's career--well they made a career out of being a lecherous rude jerk. Seems like just deserts. What goes around, comes around.
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  102. bomag says:
    @Wilkey
    The truth is that these stories all seriously depress me. If it's all but impossible for rich and/or famous guys like Charlie Rose, Kevin Spacey, and Louis CK to find hot, attractive young golddiggers then what hope do the rest of us less rich, less famous people have? I was hoping that in 20 years, as I launch into my 60s and our children are all grown, I could ditch my wife for some petite little 20-something year old, but I guess that's probably not gunna happen, no matter how rich I become between now and then.

    The truth is that these stories all seriously depress me.

    I rather see a glimmer of hope.

    Old man – young woman is not a particularly good strategy around which to organize a society, for a variety of reasons. We do well to discourage it.

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    Don’t worry, we largely do. Women in their prime years generally go to athletes, frat boys, drug dealers etc of their own age bracket.
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  103. @Anon
    I first saw Charlie Rose in mid 80s on late night (I think) CBS show. So, I'd be up at 2 am, and Rose would be interviewing some physicist about magnetic something or other.
    I liked this Rose. He seemed a straight shooter, just a guy doing his job.

    But then, he turned into a brand. He was the serious guy who interviewed thinkers, writers, artists, actors(and not mere entertainers), composers, academics, and etc.
    Considering the alternatives on TV, his show was probably one of the best shows on TV since Dick Cavett. There weren't many worthy interview shows on TV. Bill Moyers used to fill the role, but he was never was hip. After Rose, I suppose there was Larry King, but that was barely low-middle-brow. So, Rose show offered something half-intelligent on TV. But it also got increasingly pompous.

    Also, after awhile, there were no surprises. It would have been better if Rose passed out drinks so everyone could get drunk and drop inhibitions and speak honestly. Instead, we got intelligent talk(like on NPR) but the usual talking points on any subject matter. No one came on the show to spill any secrets. It was mostly to stick to official talking points or flatter one another... like actors, director, producer coming on the show and remarking how they are all so wonderful and talented.

    But the really icky stuff was the pandering. I recall David Remnick was once on and they were talking about the Serbian-Bosnian crisis. And Rose asked Remnick. "How do you.................... as a Jew............. yabba dabba doo..." It was like Remnick, being a member of the Shoah Tribe, was intrinsically privy("as a Jew")to some deep wisdom about human tragedy. Those pregnant pauses, the pious gestures, and etc. I mean it was icky.
    As for Remnick, he just played along. I suppose people can become morally spoiled too, and guys like Remnick feel morally entitled.
    But then, Remnick plays this game too, esp in his tribute to Springsteen the saint of sausaged buns.
    Bunch of globbies massaging each other's egos.

    I only heard of Charlie Rose a few years ago, since which I’ve seen occasional bits. He always strikes me as boredly phoning it in, asking questions he obviously doesn’t care about and not even bothering to fake interest in the guests’ answers. I thought, “he doesn’t care about this show, so why is he doing it?” Now we have the answer.

    Indeed, now we have the answer (in case it wasn’t already intuitively obvious) to why we have almost every media production: these are machines for feeding fresh meat into their proprietors’ appetites. If they have to make the occasional movie or whatever to keep the machine running, then so be it, but that is entirely subordinate to the main function of the production company: ass, whether women’s, men’s or children’s.

    It is pretty safe to say that most of the Media Political Complex exists to feed its owners’ lusts. Whatever media or politics happens to come out is a byproduct.

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  104. Who is Charlie Rose?

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    An old man who had overstayed his welcome.
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  105. NOTA says:
    @Not Raul
    I've never liked Rose. He's in love with the sound of his own voice. Empty barrels make the most noise.

    He's not even a real reporter. He's a hack in a suit who flatters other guys in suits.

    He’s an excellent interviewer—the subject of the interview tends to shine through while Rose asks questions and guides the conversation. For that, he doesn’t need to be exciting, just engaged and willing to listen.

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  106. bomag says:
    @TTSSYF
    Very plausible, and right in line with the four-step process outlined by Lifson on the American Thinker website a few days ago. They are getting rid of the Clintons and otherwise clearing the decks so they can go after Trump without having to worry about any other major issue on their side. Why else now, and so many falling so quickly, like dominos?

    They are getting rid of the Clintons and otherwise clearing the decks so they can go after Trump…

    Seems more of a self purge.

    I’m thinking the witch hunts worked pretty well against Bill O’Reilly and Roger Ailes; the Progressives figured they could use the tactic to clean their own stables, while cleaning out a few Republicans like Roy Moore and HW Bush; though claims against Repubs seem a bit scarce.

    They probably shot their ammo on Trump during the election.

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  107. L Woods says:
    @Guy de Champlagne
    I don't know you personally obviously. But there is a ridiculous tendency for men to think that there being other high status men with multiple partners somehow makes it more likely for them to have high status too, when really all these things are zero sum games. The fact that some men get to have high status women for decades just means that there are other men who will never get them, when they would of if male desirability had a lifespan more on par with that of women.

    I still just can't get over how dumb conservatives are for going along with these accusations just because the targets happen to be liberal (for the time being).

    Yes, if only conservatives rushed to the defense of media power brokers that have worked ceaselessly to destroy them for generations, they’d surely exhibit gratitude and return the favor.

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    Yes, if only conservatives rushed to the defense of media power brokers that have worked ceaselessly to destroy them for generations, they’d surely exhibit gratitude and return the favor.
     
    As grateful as Lavar Ball and the three young basketball-Americans arrested in China. I blame the three kids more. They were sullen and insolent in their thanking of Trump, as they read from nearly identical press releases. Infantile know-nuffin', barely educated Lavar is imitating them to hog some media face time. Loving those TV cameras.
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  108. L Woods says:
    @TTSSYF
    Agreed. While I can't deny that part of me is enjoying seeing all of these supposed defenders of women's rights and self-righteous hypocrites being hoisted on their own petards, ultimately I couldn't care less whether someone's butt was grabbed for five seconds eight years ago and actually think it's a dangerous road to go down. If it wasn't egregious enough to say or do something about it at the time, then don't bring it up now and ruin someone's career.

    American culture is toxic stupidity embodied. Let it work in our favor for once.

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  109. Art Deco says:
    @Marat
    You might have missed the Cruz/Amanda affair rumors and Carly's curious joint press conference where she took over in defending him - spring 2016. Apparently Cruz borrowed the "this is beneath my acknowledgement and frankly I'm insulted" posture from the GHWB school of denial.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/29/carly_fiorina_steps_in_to_defend_ted_cruz_from_daily_mail_reporter_asking_about_affair_rumors.html

    Apparently Cruz borrowed the “this is beneath my acknowledgement and frankly I’m insulted” posture from the GHWB school of denial.

    The people accusing Bush, Sr. were the cretins at Spy magazine. His supposed ‘mistress’ was a women less attractive than his wife. The woman was a staff aide disliked by other aides. The ‘evidence’ for the accusation against him was that he’d refused to fire her consequent to her disputes with others on the staff (and that some paramour of her’s contended he’d lost her to someone else, which he ‘assumed’ was Bush Sr.).

    There’s not much Cruz can say to people bound and determined to believe he cheats on his wife (and that’s going to be every pseudosophisticate in the world and everyone who dislikes Cruz politics).

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  110. L Woods says:
    @bomag

    The truth is that these stories all seriously depress me.
     
    I rather see a glimmer of hope.

    Old man - young woman is not a particularly good strategy around which to organize a society, for a variety of reasons. We do well to discourage it.

    Don’t worry, we largely do. Women in their prime years generally go to athletes, frat boys, drug dealers etc of their own age bracket.

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    Women in their prime or do you mean prime women?

    The deal with Ms. Lewinsky is that her body-styling evoked no interest from athletes, frat boys or same-age drug dealers and even the nebbishes at her regular place-of-worship didn't think that she was all that appealing, maybe for reasons of personality rather than being "Bet"-males (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_alphabet) where a full-figured lady with a generous chest and a pleasant-enough face was the best they could hope for?

    The deal with Mr. Clinton is that he saw past the girl with no appeal to same age athletes, frat boys, drug dealers and even "nice young men" and could see her earnestness of being eager-to-please? If she had appeal to the athletes, frat boys, drug dealers or men in her congregation in medical school, would she have given Mr. Clinton the time of day?
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  111. CK says:
    @fish

    Really what some playing card manufacturer should do is make up a bunch of playing cards made up of the famous political and Hollywood perverts.
     
    You'd need a Pokemon deck…...

    The Iraqi deck? With similar results?

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  112. L Woods says:
    @sabril
    I agree with Guy that the odds are very much against you.

    Part of the problem is that in the past, pretty much all single women in their 20s were slender and childless and looking for a decent man to marry. These days, 70% of them are either overweight or single mothers or just looking to screw around with Chad or some combination thereof.

    The remaining girls are very much in demand and very aware of it. Why would they date a successful 60 year old when they are being pursued by legions of successful men in their 20s and 30s? The answer is that they wouldn't, not unless you brought extreme amounts of wealth and social status to the table.

    You are actually lucky that you got married before this sh*tshow started. There is a silent epidemic of men in their 20s who simply can't find any woman to date or marry.

    That said, I agree that for these celebrity men, you are seeing only the negative incidents. There are probably dozens of attractive young women who happily jumped into the casting couch with Harvey Weinstein and would been ecstatic to marry him. If you can achieve Weinstein-level power and success, you should have no problem finding your young sweetheart.

    Wilkey is obviously being facetious. And yes, the modern dating market is a dystopian nightmare if you’re not plugged into a good social niche (and male, obviously).

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  113. Art Deco says:
    @Chief Seattle
    Charlie Rose! This is a full-on media purge. It fits the theory perfectly that the true powers have dirt on anyone allowed to rise to national prominence. And the powers are pissed that instead of delivering Hillary into power, they allowed Trump to win. So they made a decision - if these media hacks can't sway public opinion with the full force of monopoly distribution behind them then it's time to get new hacks. The old hacks will be "dishonorably discharged", tossed aside with suitable loss of respect, career, and opportunity so as to make an example for anyone else that decides to fail in their true role.

    It fits the theory perfectly that the true powers have dirt on anyone allowed to rise to national prominence.

    There’s a difference between a ‘theory’ and a paranoid delusion.

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    There’s a difference between a ‘theory’ and a paranoid delusion.
     
    There's a difference between 'anything Art Deco says' and 'interesting commentary'.
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  114. Art Deco says:
    @Anon
    My mother has a (male) friend who worked for Rose's show doing research. The man does practically nothing.

    If he can do all that interviewing cold without any preparation, that’s pretty impressive.

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  115. @nebulafox
    Mike Pence. Probably Ted Cruz. To the best of my knowledge, Barack Obama? I think President Reagan got his womanizing out of his system during his Hollywood days.

    Obummer had Reggie and his drugs. That was enough for him.

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  116. CK says:
    @27 year old
    Who is Charlie Rose?

    An old man who had overstayed his welcome.

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  117. Art Deco says:
    @Anon
    While it’s certainly true that Charlie Rose was never one to be confrontation

    He could be on black issues.

    Dinesh D'souza was on for a 15 min segment for his book END OF HISTORY, and Rose grimaced and glared as D'souza argued that Democratic blacks were cynical operatives who push 'racism' narrative for political and material gain.

    Rose also got pretty curt with Oliver Stone. JFK really pissed off Rose. He thought Stone went to far in fingering too many people. I think it was discussion over HEAVEN OR EARTH where Rose asked Stone if he's a Buddhist now or what, and Stone couldn't give a straight answer, and Rose got mean.

    But the funniest meany stuff from Rose with was Ralph Reed. This was hilarious. Rose set a trap. On Reed's first appearance, Rose was all smiles and hugs. And Reed thought, 'gee, maybe Charlie likes me.' So, Reed had lowered defenses, and then, Rose totally lunged at him and tore him to pieces in the next appearances. Rose could be one cunning son of a gun.

    And some of the interviews were really funny. It's just chemistry. It's like Ebert and Siskel set off sparks. And some guests made the Rose show come alive. Philbin was one even though I never saw his show.

    https://charlierose.com/videos/12232

    But the funniest meany stuff from Rose with was Ralph Reed. This was hilarious. Rose set a trap. On Reed’s first appearance, Rose was all smiles and hugs. And Reed thought, ‘gee, maybe Charlie likes me.’ So, Reed had lowered defenses, and then, Rose totally lunged at him and tore him to pieces in the next appearances. Rose could be one cunning son of a gun.

    He had Reed on as a guest 27x over a period of 14 years. Somehow I doubt Reed finds Rose all that intimidating.

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    He had Reed on as a guest 27x over a period of 14 years. Somehow I doubt Reed finds Rose all that intimidating.

    Reed eventually got the hang of it, but see his first two appearances.
    Reed was buttered up in the first one and then grilled in the second one.
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  118. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Apparently, amongst other bawdy high-jinks and misdemeanors, Charlie Rose loved nothing better than, at random intervals, stripping entirely nude and parading himself amongst female newsroom employees as if it was the most natural thing in the world.

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  119. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Wilkey
    The truth is that these stories all seriously depress me. If it's all but impossible for rich and/or famous guys like Charlie Rose, Kevin Spacey, and Louis CK to find hot, attractive young golddiggers then what hope do the rest of us less rich, less famous people have? I was hoping that in 20 years, as I launch into my 60s and our children are all grown, I could ditch my wife for some petite little 20-something year old, but I guess that's probably not gunna happen, no matter how rich I become between now and then.

    Hat tip.

    Watch Benny Hill re-runs and just laugh the whole thing off.
    It’s better to laugh than to cry.

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    Makes for a great tabloid headline:

    '*NUDE NEWSCASTER KICKED OUT FOR DICKING ABOUT*'
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  120. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anon
    I don't like his politics either. Waters is a globalist and pushes for colonization of EU by non-whites.

    But he is right on the West Bank issue. I mean, the Palestinians should at least be given that.

    What I don't get is this. Defense of West Bank is NATIONALIST and anti-imperialist. It denounces Zionist occupation and colonization of West Bank, the last remaining Palestinian territory. (Gaza is too small to count.) So, if Palestinian nationhood is justified, why don't small European nations have a right to survive? All European nations are small except Russia.

    I really don’t care about Palestine.

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    You should care to the extent that the people who are crushing the Palestinians have power over the West. And globalism's end game will be White Nakba, the Palestinianization of whites in their homelands.

    Whites may not care about Palestinians but the people they serve, the Zionists, have the same plan for them that they had for Palestinians. Whites are to be colonized by diversity, demographically and sexually. Whites are 'Palestinians' in the metaphorical sense. And just like Americans aided and abetted the destruction of Palestine, they now call for the destruction of Europe. All powerful American institutions condemn Hungary and Turkey for not welcoming invasion. American media praise Merkel as the moral leader of Germany and the world.

    Christmas is now about the magic of Afro-colonization of white wombs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilG7KFKQo-g

    Those who control academia and media stuck homo flags in churches. Now, those who control advertising have white women dreaming of a black Christmas. Everything white and western are to be altered to celebrate blackness, homos, or rest of diversity.

    In this respect, Islam is better than Christianity. Can you imagine Muslims allowing Jews and globalists to drape a Mosque with homo colors? Can you imagine Ramadan being turned into celebration of Arab women going with Africans? West is totally cucked.

    This is why you should care about Palestinians. What was done to them was a template for what is being done to all the world. As Zionists occupy more of West Bank, they will pressure US and EU to take in more Palestinians as Puerto-Ricans of the Middle East, and these Puertostinians will vote 'left' or Democratic since the Right, despite or esp because condemned by Jews, is totally slavish to Zionists.
    The Right has to prove that it is not 'antisemitic', and one way is to bash Muslims in the name of protecting Jews. As Palestinians totally lose their nation, their only option left is to move to the West, and since the 'left' parties are more 'inclusive', Palestinians and 'Syrians' will go that way.
    , @Clyde

    I really don’t care about Palestine.
     
    Then David Gilmour is your man.
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  121. Mr. Anon says:
    @Art Deco
    It fits the theory perfectly that the true powers have dirt on anyone allowed to rise to national prominence.

    There's a difference between a 'theory' and a paranoid delusion.

    There’s a difference between a ‘theory’ and a paranoid delusion.

    There’s a difference between ‘anything Art Deco says’ and ‘interesting commentary’.

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  122. Pat Boyle says:
    @anon
    Good Time Charlie's Got The Blues


    Gotta pay to play

    I have concluded that I am a moral superman. Everyday brings in more and more evidence that I have been a rare and terrific man. Today the bearer of that message is Charlie Rose.

    Maybe it’s Willie’s fault. I was raised with my older cousin Willie (our mothers were twins). He was only a few months older than me but that still meant that he had all those older brother responsibilities. So maybe he was supposed to tell me on the sly that women really wanted to be harrassed no matter how they protested. Well he didn’t do it.

    I grew up and went into the outer world believing in things like the scantity of marraige. So when I came to supervise hundreds of women at work it never occured to me to diddle with them – I was married and vows were vows. Apparently from what I see on TV and the Web I was just about the only man of my generation who didn’t behave badly.

    I’m great.

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  123. fish says:
    @CK
    The Iraqi deck? With similar results?

    The Iraqi deck was still the 52 card format…..the Pokemon deck starts at around 650 IIRC!

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  124. CJ says:
    @Dr. X
    I think most liberals like Franken and Rose and Weinstein are supposedly "good" on "women's issues" because they think life is perpetual college, where they can get laid by laying feminist bullshit on women. "Sure, of course I'm 100% pro-choice, no one should tell a woman what to do with her body" really translates into "After I bang you, if you get pregnant I'll help pay for the abortion because it's a hell of a lot cheaper than paying child support for eighteen years."

    For a lot of these guys, life as an ongoing college frat party where they're trying to get laid 24-7-365 actually works, maybe even into their forties or fifties. But they never think that they're old and fat and ugly and don't realize that they're not 24 or even 32 any more until they grab some girl's ass who's younger than their daughter and for the first time ever the chick doesn't dig it.

    In one sense, you can hardly blame them. They probably did get laid a lot and the gimmick worked for most of their lives. And for every Jack, there's a Jill -- it's not as if for every guy perv out there, there isn't a chick perv willing to get it on with him.

    The entire current sexual harassment stuff is a witch hunt against against boomers. Blame the unrealistic expectations of the Sexual Revolution, but also remember that feminism is about power, not equality. Women who want to sleep their way to success by bedding fifty guys are considered liberated and get a Helen Gurley Brown-inspired "'Atta girl!" Men who make the offers and the ass-grabs are considered pervs. Some undoubtedly are, but it's not as if their perviness hasn't been hitherto rewarded handsomely by the post-Sixties sexual ethos.

    The entire current sexual harassment stuff is a witch hunt against against boomers.

    Liked your post Doctor, but I gotta nitpick this one. Charlie Rose (b. 1942) is not a boomer. Like his contemporaries Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, and Nancy Pelosi, he is a pre-boomer, a member of the so-called Silent Generation (although he and Joe and Bernie and Nancy never shut up). They were already through college before the 1960s social waves really hit.

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  125. Beckow says:
    @Chief Seattle
    Charlie Rose! This is a full-on media purge. It fits the theory perfectly that the true powers have dirt on anyone allowed to rise to national prominence. And the powers are pissed that instead of delivering Hillary into power, they allowed Trump to win. So they made a decision - if these media hacks can't sway public opinion with the full force of monopoly distribution behind them then it's time to get new hacks. The old hacks will be "dishonorably discharged", tossed aside with suitable loss of respect, career, and opportunity so as to make an example for anyone else that decides to fail in their true role.

    “It fits the theory perfectly that the true powers have dirt on anyone allowed to rise to national prominence”

    This is more than a theory. No self-respecting oligarch would ever allow someone who is not easily dischargeable to rise up to an independent position. It is a simple human dynamic. No elite does that except as an oversight or a mistake. And ‘mistakes’ were made, now for the consequences and a purge.

    After the Hillary-Brexit-Syria fiascos, harsh consequences for the current elite management team were inevitable. You can see it in their frantic attempts to show extreme loyalty, to compete with each other in generating witch hunts, or in the nervous and tense atmosphere. They know that the purge is happening, you can see the desperation in their eyes as they scream that nothing will be allowed to change. The smart ones got out quickly and quietly (Cameron, Obama). A few really dumb ones (or unlucky) will be made an example out of.

    A new management team is coming.

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  126. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Hat tip.

    Watch Benny Hill re-runs and just laugh the whole thing off.
    It's better to laugh than to cry.

    Makes for a great tabloid headline:

    ‘*NUDE NEWSCASTER KICKED OUT FOR DICKING ABOUT*’

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  127. Thea says:

    Not being accused is the mark of a nobody.

    I hope there are no women around who had hoped Steve would ask them out as young ladies but he didn’t. Otherwise he’ll be accused as well.

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  128. @Anon
    A lot of these cops turn out to be Hispanic, police departments are increasing hispanic

    Police is working class profession in many respects.

    As Chicago becomes more yuppie, its whites in nice areas don't raise kids to be cops. Chicago used to have huge white working class population. Many left for suburbs, and those who resettle tend to be yuppies.

    As for blacks, they don't have working class culture. More like welfare culture or crime culture.

    So, that leaves the Hispanics and Mesos as the new working class segment of the city.

    They are like the new Irish.

    Think you nailed it there.

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  129. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Waaill, Charlie’s jes’ a good ol’ boy like his buddy, The Big Dawg hisself from Hot Springs AK…er…I mean Hope, AK.

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  130. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Mr. Anon
    I really don't care about Palestine.

    You should care to the extent that the people who are crushing the Palestinians have power over the West. And globalism’s end game will be White Nakba, the Palestinianization of whites in their homelands.

    Whites may not care about Palestinians but the people they serve, the Zionists, have the same plan for them that they had for Palestinians. Whites are to be colonized by diversity, demographically and sexually. Whites are ‘Palestinians’ in the metaphorical sense. And just like Americans aided and abetted the destruction of Palestine, they now call for the destruction of Europe. All powerful American institutions condemn Hungary and Turkey for not welcoming invasion. American media praise Merkel as the moral leader of Germany and the world.

    Christmas is now about the magic of Afro-colonization of white wombs.

    Those who control academia and media stuck homo flags in churches. Now, those who control advertising have white women dreaming of a black Christmas. Everything white and western are to be altered to celebrate blackness, homos, or rest of diversity.

    In this respect, Islam is better than Christianity. Can you imagine Muslims allowing Jews and globalists to drape a Mosque with homo colors? Can you imagine Ramadan being turned into celebration of Arab women going with Africans? West is totally cucked.

    This is why you should care about Palestinians. What was done to them was a template for what is being done to all the world. As Zionists occupy more of West Bank, they will pressure US and EU to take in more Palestinians as Puerto-Ricans of the Middle East, and these Puertostinians will vote ‘left’ or Democratic since the Right, despite or esp because condemned by Jews, is totally slavish to Zionists.
    The Right has to prove that it is not ‘antisemitic’, and one way is to bash Muslims in the name of protecting Jews. As Palestinians totally lose their nation, their only option left is to move to the West, and since the ‘left’ parties are more ‘inclusive’, Palestinians and ‘Syrians’ will go that way.

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    You should care to the extent that the people who are crushing the Palestinians have power over the West.

    No one is crushing 'the Palestinians'. They're extensively subsidized through UNRWA and have been for nearly 70 years. As much as 50% of the income flow in Gaza consists of international aid.

    If their politicians actually wanted the West Bank and Gaza, they'd have opened negotiations for it in 1978, or extended a counter-offer in 2000 if they were dissatisfied with Israel's offer, or accepted it when offered in 2008. You look at the public opinion surveys of the West Bank and Gaza and you see why their politicians ultimately flipped the Israeli government the bird: north of 1/3 of their public insists Israel cease to exist as the price of any settlement. Another 30% insist on a 'right of return', which means anyone in a fuzzily defined set of Arabs can settle in Israel. You only insist on such things if you operate under the illusion that you're in a position to dictate terms to your enemy. They aren't and never have been, but no one suggests cutting off the flow of funds to persuade Al Fatah, Hamas, and their votaries that maybe they ought to behave as if they lived in the actual physical world.

    As of now, about 60% of the population of Arabs outside the 1949 armistice lines live outside of Israeli civil administration and outside of Israel's security patrols and most of the remainder live outside Israel's civil administration. If they want the rest, the local Arabs can make an offer.

    , @Mr. Anon
    TL:DR. Like I said, I don't care about Palestine.

    And I don't believe that the way to promote the interests of white peoples in white countries is to white-knight for 'the other' - some foreign people with whom I have no connection.
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  131. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    A lot of these cops turn out to be Hispanic, police departments are increasing hispanic

    Police is working class profession in many respects.

    As Chicago becomes more yuppie, its whites in nice areas don't raise kids to be cops. Chicago used to have huge white working class population. Many left for suburbs, and those who resettle tend to be yuppies.

    As for blacks, they don't have working class culture. More like welfare culture or crime culture.

    So, that leaves the Hispanics and Mesos as the new working class segment of the city.

    They are like the new Irish.

    Also, one needs an absolutely clean record to be a police officer.

    That rules out, at the very like least, the majority of the ‘pool’ of blacks.

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    Not true in most large cities as the need for a racial/ethnic representative force outweighs the youthful indiscretions that previously justified the rejections. Non-violent and drug possession arrests are now often overlooked after scrutiny. Suburban and state police forces still maintain the luxury of clean records and high standards due to attractiveness of the job.
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  132. @Cagey Beast
    How is Charlie Rose supposed to know what is or isn't okay to do? Seriously, have a look around at all the sexual high jinks that's celebrated and tell me how poor Charlie is supposed to know where the boundaries are? The same goes for even the lowest and most cretinous amongst these celebrities named and shamed this month.

    This all feels like "handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500" as Captain Willard said in Apocalypse Now. I think Charlie Rose is a globalist stooge, by the way.

    Two prepositions

    1. The man is a “Living National Treasure” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_National_Treasure_(Japan)

    Yeah, yeah, Charlie Rose drinks the Globalist Kool-Aid, blah, blah, but look at the posted interview with Harry Lee, who is a canonized saint these days among immigration skeptics and neo-reactionaries. Mr. Rose’s politics may be a polar opposite, but he gave Mr. Lee a respectful hearing.

    2. Rose’s wandering hands are long, long well known (see grandparent post/link). He is also divorced and hence not cheating on his wife. The story goes that Gary Hart once whined, “What about Bob Kerrey?” when the disgraced presidential candidate was reminded, “Bob Kerrey isn’t married.”

    With those two factors in mind, could not PBS upper management have supplied Mr. Rose with “minders” or “chaperons”? Isn’t there a “trope” of the “executive receptionist who knows more about the company than the CEO” whispering to the “pretty young thing” “OK, when you go in there, just don’t turn your back to him”?

    If the guy was that important to the PBS brand, couldn’t they have spared the necessary labor in supervision to keep his groping to a tolerable level? Is Charlie Rose that influential that upper PBS execs couldn’t keep their Living National Treasure out of trouble, at least, in work settings?

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    There are no PBS minders anywhere. Besides PBS is based in DC, and Rose works in NYC. Rose independently produces his own show and sells it to PBS and Bloomberg for distribution. That would be like PBS sending minders around to supervise Ken Burns.
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  133. ic1000 says:

    Mrs. ic1000 has loved watching Rose on CBS This Morning for some years, so I’ve seen more of that show than most commenters here.

    With the bloom off, the start of this morning’s broadcast was something of a train wreck.

    For background, Charlie Rose has two sidekick announcers, middle-aged Oprah BFF Gayle King and pert brunette Nora O’Donnell. As noted in the above comments, Rose is distilled Pure Mainstream Media, with the conventional liberal establishment perspective on every issue. That said, he’s obviously smart, and well-read, and able to speak knowledgeably about just about every subject that comes up on the news program.

    Ms. King and Ms. O’Donnell, not so much. Their commentary on any non-SJW segment is along the lines of “Uh, interesting,” “Uh, inspiring,” or “Uh, disturbing.”

    So… what are these two hard-bitten reporters at the pinnacle of broadcast journalism gonna do about the dizzying fall of their leader? Ms King at 7:05 this morning:

    “I really am still reeling. I got an hour and 42 minutes of sleep last night. Both my son and my daughter called me, Oprah called me and said, ‘Are you OK?’ I am not OK. After reading that article in the Post, it was deeply disturbing, troubling and painful for me to read. That said, I think we have to make this matter to women – the women that have spoken up, the women who have not spoken up because they’re afraid. I’m hoping that now they will take the step to speak out, too. This becomes a moment of truth. You know, I’ve enjoyed a friendship and a partnership with Charlie for the past five years. I’ve held him in such high regard and I’m really struggling because… [snip]

    …I’m still trying to sort it out because this is not the man I know, but I’m also clearly on the side of the women who have been very hurt and very damaged by this.

    Non tl;dr version: I’m Shocked, Shocked! that Mr. Rose has been gambling routinely engaged in abusive sexual conduct towards his pretty-young-thing subordinates. True, this has been an open secret at CBS News for years. And true, I’m an anchorwoman at CBS This Morning because of my outstanding abilities as a journalist. But I knew nothing! Only now can I take the courageous step of throwing Charlie under the bus!

    I certainly hope that Ms. King and Ms. O’Donnell have enjoyed their time on the morning news. They have certainly earned their forthcoming promotions.

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    Thanks for the link and commentary, ic1000. I watched, and Miss O'Donnell's comments deserve notice, too. (She goes on about being proud (TM) of the women who have come forward, and how workplace equallity of the sexes (R) has yet to be achieved.)

    First, there's the general point that when a figure on our side is caught in flagrante, it's an indictment of the entire Right, proof of our hypocrisy and general venality. But when it's a lefty who's come under fire, the behavior is merely indicative of broad currents in the entire society: everyone is to blame (and therefore no one *in particular* is to blame). The upshot is that we Rightists really get it coming and going: we're always at fault, ultimately, no matter who the actual malefactor is, or what his/her affiliation.

    The second point about Nora O'D is that it's utterly unbelievable that she, of all people, is unaware of the predation that goes on among media ad political types. Your description of her as "pert" is definitely apt, ic; but she's also a strikingly lovely woman, for whom the years have only slightly coarsened the bloom of youth. I recall when she first "arrived" on TV news, and it was no surprise to see her advance through the media ranks while her less attractive contemporaries languished. For all I know (and hope), she resisted every sleezy come-on and proposition along the way. But there is no way she did not *personally* experience that sleeziness, given its evident ubiquity in the media-political complex. At the very least, a woman of such beauty must have dozens of war stories ending with her having to slap some over-eager exec in the face.

    Finally, what does it say about the so-called "sisterhood" of professional women, that they can fein ignorance of the burdens being placed on the women around them? Don't they confide in each other? Don't the upper-echelon women champion the causes of their subordinate sisters? Aren't they sensitive to all the "dog whistles" being blown by the predatory men? I'd been lead to believe that having women in the workplace would make it a more empathetic environment.
    , @Inquiring Mind
    The original "shocked, shocked" was in response to Humphrey Bogart/Rick Blaine indignantly demanding to know why "you are shutting me down?"

    Rick very well knew the reason, that some of the Germans visiting his American Café were loudly singing a patriotic German song and the locals responded by singing La Marseilles, the French national song, where Rick sided with them by nodding to the band to back them up instrumentally. The Germans couldn't stand for this defiance by the conquered French colonists and natives (and lone "neutral" expatriate) of them being the Occupying Power. "Gambling has been going on in Rick's Café" is followed by handing the usual wad-of-cash payoff to Inspector Renault, "your winnings, sir."

    Yes gambling was going on along with the regular payoff to the Inspector to permit it to continue, that was the whole point of the place, and yes, it was against rules that were being ignored. What was in reality against the rules was Rick having the band back up the defiantly emotional singers of the French National Song.

    So if we are "shocked, shocked" that Charlie Rose routinely abused subordinates, the analogy you are making is that the rule against such abuse had been honored in its violation and the real reason Mr. Rose was fired is that he had violated a tacit rule against siding with the wrong political faction?

    Is there any evidence of this at all? Is there? And why was Charlie Rose outright fired rather than "reassigned" in the style of Brian "America's Most Trusted Newsreader Telling an Iraq War Whopper to Whoever Would Sit and Listen" Williams?
    , @Almost Missouri

    "True, this has been an open secret at CBS News for years. And true, I’m an anchorwoman at CBS This Morning because of my outstanding abilities as a journalist. But I knew nothing! Only now can I take the courageous step of throwing Charlie under the bus!"
     
    You know, that's a good point. Not only is this an indictment of Charlie Rose and his executive producer / procuress / passive enabler /dental model Yvette Vega, but this is an indictment of all of the other so-called journalists who shared the stage with Charlie Rose. A journalist's job is pretty straight forward: find the truth and report it. Yet here they all had a huge headline story literally (which I mean in the literal sense) staring them in the face for years, yet they all either failed to notice, were afraid to report it or colluded in covering it up. It doesn't really matter which one they did, since all are prima facie disqualifications from their so-called profession. Every one of them should resign into wilderness exile.

    Of course they won't. Instead, the survivors of the current round will be promoted, and the Fake News parade will go on...
    , @Forbes
    Obviously, a show such as CBS This Morning is not in the news business, and can't really be taken seriously if they let the on-air talent (talking heads) ramble on with their personal struggles, and emotionally-revealing troubles due to a colleague's indiscretions.

    Her monologue reads like a parody, name-dropping "important" people who called her, advocating for the sisterhood, behaving as if there were a death in the family. It's a friggin' soap opera...
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  134. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Art Deco
    But the funniest meany stuff from Rose with was Ralph Reed. This was hilarious. Rose set a trap. On Reed’s first appearance, Rose was all smiles and hugs. And Reed thought, ‘gee, maybe Charlie likes me.’ So, Reed had lowered defenses, and then, Rose totally lunged at him and tore him to pieces in the next appearances. Rose could be one cunning son of a gun.

    He had Reed on as a guest 27x over a period of 14 years. Somehow I doubt Reed finds Rose all that intimidating.

    He had Reed on as a guest 27x over a period of 14 years. Somehow I doubt Reed finds Rose all that intimidating.

    Reed eventually got the hang of it, but see his first two appearances.
    Reed was buttered up in the first one and then grilled in the second one.

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  135. EdwardM says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    One by one these liberal icons are falling like dominoes. Couldn’t have happened to a better group of brain dead, morally bankrupt hypocrites.

    I’ve known this for years but the world is finally getting a true revelation, that the only two things the false religion of Liberalism worship are Greed and Lust. Everything else liberals do – often under the guise of “equality” and “justice”, is just a cover up for all the greed and lust that really drive them. That’s why they can’t get away from all the hypocrisy.

     

    What do you think about the theory I've seen floating around that there's a broader plan behind this wave of 'true revelation' in lefty circles?

    As I've seen it, the theory goes that great swathes of the Clinton camp are being systematically sacrificed on sex charges. The wave will crest with Billy C finally being called out for a big public shaming.

    This (theoretically) serves the American left's purposes in two ways.

    First, it clears the political decks of lingering, and now counterproductive, Clinton influences. The Dems will finally be free of them.

    Second, it's battlespace prep for impeaching/otherwise ousting Trump in 2018 on sexual harassment charges.

    Plausible? Or is it all just a spontaneous surge of SJW energy that's been building for a long time?

    This is absolutely their strategy. Steve posted about this, as have commentors (including me).

    The fact that the lame accusations against Trump didn’t stick before is only a small speed bump. They’ll dredge up more “victims” — fancifully invented if necessary — and perhaps refer to the new climate blah blah.

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  136. utu says:
    @Pat Boyle
    I have concluded that I am a moral superman. Everyday brings in more and more evidence that I have been a rare and terrific man. Today the bearer of that message is Charlie Rose.

    Maybe it's Willie's fault. I was raised with my older cousin Willie (our mothers were twins). He was only a few months older than me but that still meant that he had all those older brother responsibilities. So maybe he was supposed to tell me on the sly that women really wanted to be harrassed no matter how they protested. Well he didn't do it.

    I grew up and went into the outer world believing in things like the scantity of marraige. So when I came to supervise hundreds of women at work it never occured to me to diddle with them - I was married and vows were vows. Apparently from what I see on TV and the Web I was just about the only man of my generation who didn't behave badly.

    I'm great.

    Maybe it’s Willie’s fault. Perhaps willy is not that interested.

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  137. MarcB. says:
    @Anon
    Yeah, it does, but why are they all getting exposed now?

    It’s called “getting ahead of the story.” Establishment figures who ran afoul the current rules of engagement are being dispatched in an effort save credibility that has been lost in an attempt to recapture the moral high ground. This is a purge.

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  138. Clyde says:
    @L Woods
    Yes, if only conservatives rushed to the defense of media power brokers that have worked ceaselessly to destroy them for generations, they’d surely exhibit gratitude and return the favor.

    Yes, if only conservatives rushed to the defense of media power brokers that have worked ceaselessly to destroy them for generations, they’d surely exhibit gratitude and return the favor.

    As grateful as Lavar Ball and the three young basketball-Americans arrested in China. I blame the three kids more. They were sullen and insolent in their thanking of Trump, as they read from nearly identical press releases. Infantile know-nuffin’, barely educated Lavar is imitating them to hog some media face time. Loving those TV cameras.

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    Clyde: "Basketball-Americans." Priceless.
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  139. Clyde says:
    @Mr. Anon
    I really don't care about Palestine.

    I really don’t care about Palestine.

    Then David Gilmour is your man.

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  140. Jack D says:
    @WowJustWow
    Most of the chapters in the 2017 Perv Purge have played out over an extended period of time -- major allegations build up over days or weeks, finally leading up to the ultimate responses from accused and his employer. In contrast, it had only been a few hours since I last checked the news when I learned that Charlie Rose had eight accusers and was already fired. Something feels different about this one. I'm curious to know, when the dust settles, whether we'll be able to piece together why some fell much more quickly than others.

    The difference is that the witch hunt has gained momentum. At the beginning of a witch hunting panic, the usual rules apply – X has been accused of being a witch, but we’ll wait for the facts before we make a decision. As the witch trials gain momentum (and this is one of the ways you know that you are in a witch burning hysteria), an accusation becomes THE SAME as a conviction – to be accused is to be guilty. There is no need to wait for the facts. In fact it would be WRONG to wait for the facts while witches are among us and are souring our milk and causing calves to be stillborn. Do you think that the accusers, these poor wronged tortured women, could be LYING? What kind of monster would doubt them. Anyone who says we should wait for the facts is probably himself a monster or in sympathy with monsters. Are you one perhaps, comrade, someone who is urging us to “go slow” even as the wreckers continue their evil work? No, I didn’t think so – I am glad to hear that you no longer favor such an approach when we are faced with such dire imminent threats. Wreckers are to be dragged off to Lubyanka and shot immediately. There’s no point in even torturing them for a confession anymore since we already know they are guilty.

    Moral panics/ witch hunts are a well documented aspect of human societies ranging from the most primitive to the most sophisticated and they all follow a certain arc (one aspect of which is that they all ultimately fizzle, so becoming a victim is largely a matter of bad luck). Usually things that are that are bad yet universal are deeply imbedded in our DNA and are the result of flaws in our programming. Something that is generally protective and helpful in small doses gets magnified and turned into something destructive.

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  141. Clyde says:

    Blame this on inflation?
    A new record for a Harvey harassment payout. One million dollars.
    “Harvey Weinstein paid model Ambra Battilana Gutierrez $1 million in 2015 after he allegedly groped her in his office”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5103997/Harvey-Weinstein-paid-Italian-model-1-million-settlement.html

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    Wow. One grope for $1 mil? Dang, I'd take that deal any day.

    I confess, I won't click on the DM, so maybe it was multiple gropes, in which case maybe the price is too low.
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  142. Forbes says:
    @Anonymous

    From Radar
     
    It's funny how all these stories from disreputable and lesser known sources that everybody knew were wrong and just conspiracy theories because they're not respectable and mainstream media have ended up being true.

    Years ago when Tiger Woods had his troubles (2009), I recall seeing a video clip from a webcast on TMZ (now, I think, with its own cable channel…) time-stamped in April, before his Thanksgiving driving incident with a fire hydrant and shrubbery.

    The webcast featured two (one host/one guest) female porn stars/strippers/hookers discussing a Las Vegas bachelor party that Woods had attended, where all the guests participated horizontally with the paid entertainment. Needless, the hostess was all a-twitter about Tiger’s attendance, and Q&A the guest for the obvious and pertinent details. Six or seven months before the incident, the YouTube video was sitting on the internet.

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  143. Forbes says:
    @Chief Seattle
    Charlie Rose! This is a full-on media purge. It fits the theory perfectly that the true powers have dirt on anyone allowed to rise to national prominence. And the powers are pissed that instead of delivering Hillary into power, they allowed Trump to win. So they made a decision - if these media hacks can't sway public opinion with the full force of monopoly distribution behind them then it's time to get new hacks. The old hacks will be "dishonorably discharged", tossed aside with suitable loss of respect, career, and opportunity so as to make an example for anyone else that decides to fail in their true role.

    if these media hacks can’t sway public opinion with the full force of monopoly distribution behind them then it’s time to get new hacks.

    Absolutely. Charlie Rose is 75 years old for heaven’s sake. These hacks failed to get Hillary! elected, so they gotta go. Replaced by woke prog-lefties that’ll get the job done.

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  144. ChrisZ says:
    @ic1000
    Mrs. ic1000 has loved watching Rose on CBS This Morning for some years, so I've seen more of that show than most commenters here.

    With the bloom off, the start of this morning's broadcast was something of a train wreck.

    For background, Charlie Rose has two sidekick announcers, middle-aged Oprah BFF Gayle King and pert brunette Nora O'Donnell. As noted in the above comments, Rose is distilled Pure Mainstream Media, with the conventional liberal establishment perspective on every issue. That said, he's obviously smart, and well-read, and able to speak knowledgeably about just about every subject that comes up on the news program.

    Ms. King and Ms. O'Donnell, not so much. Their commentary on any non-SJW segment is along the lines of "Uh, interesting," "Uh, inspiring," or "Uh, disturbing."

    So... what are these two hard-bitten reporters at the pinnacle of broadcast journalism gonna do about the dizzying fall of their leader? Ms King at 7:05 this morning:

    "I really am still reeling. I got an hour and 42 minutes of sleep last night. Both my son and my daughter called me, Oprah called me and said, 'Are you OK?' I am not OK. After reading that article in the Post, it was deeply disturbing, troubling and painful for me to read. That said, I think we have to make this matter to women – the women that have spoken up, the women who have not spoken up because they're afraid. I'm hoping that now they will take the step to speak out, too. This becomes a moment of truth. You know, I've enjoyed a friendship and a partnership with Charlie for the past five years. I've held him in such high regard and I'm really struggling because... [snip]

    ...I'm still trying to sort it out because this is not the man I know, but I'm also clearly on the side of the women who have been very hurt and very damaged by this.
     
    Non tl;dr version: I'm Shocked, Shocked! that Mr. Rose has been gambling routinely engaged in abusive sexual conduct towards his pretty-young-thing subordinates. True, this has been an open secret at CBS News for years. And true, I'm an anchorwoman at CBS This Morning because of my outstanding abilities as a journalist. But I knew nothing! Only now can I take the courageous step of throwing Charlie under the bus!

    I certainly hope that Ms. King and Ms. O'Donnell have enjoyed their time on the morning news. They have certainly earned their forthcoming promotions.

    Thanks for the link and commentary, ic1000. I watched, and Miss O’Donnell’s comments deserve notice, too. (She goes on about being proud (TM) of the women who have come forward, and how workplace equallity of the sexes (R) has yet to be achieved.)

    First, there’s the general point that when a figure on our side is caught in flagrante, it’s an indictment of the entire Right, proof of our hypocrisy and general venality. But when it’s a lefty who’s come under fire, the behavior is merely indicative of broad currents in the entire society: everyone is to blame (and therefore no one *in particular* is to blame). The upshot is that we Rightists really get it coming and going: we’re always at fault, ultimately, no matter who the actual malefactor is, or what his/her affiliation.

    The second point about Nora O’D is that it’s utterly unbelievable that she, of all people, is unaware of the predation that goes on among media ad political types. Your description of her as “pert” is definitely apt, ic; but she’s also a strikingly lovely woman, for whom the years have only slightly coarsened the bloom of youth. I recall when she first “arrived” on TV news, and it was no surprise to see her advance through the media ranks while her less attractive contemporaries languished. For all I know (and hope), she resisted every sleezy come-on and proposition along the way. But there is no way she did not *personally* experience that sleeziness, given its evident ubiquity in the media-political complex. At the very least, a woman of such beauty must have dozens of war stories ending with her having to slap some over-eager exec in the face.

    Finally, what does it say about the so-called “sisterhood” of professional women, that they can fein ignorance of the burdens being placed on the women around them? Don’t they confide in each other? Don’t the upper-echelon women champion the causes of their subordinate sisters? Aren’t they sensitive to all the “dog whistles” being blown by the predatory men? I’d been lead to believe that having women in the workplace would make it a more empathetic environment.

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  145. ChrisZ says:
    @Clyde

    Yes, if only conservatives rushed to the defense of media power brokers that have worked ceaselessly to destroy them for generations, they’d surely exhibit gratitude and return the favor.
     
    As grateful as Lavar Ball and the three young basketball-Americans arrested in China. I blame the three kids more. They were sullen and insolent in their thanking of Trump, as they read from nearly identical press releases. Infantile know-nuffin', barely educated Lavar is imitating them to hog some media face time. Loving those TV cameras.

    Clyde: “Basketball-Americans.” Priceless.

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  146. Thea says:
    @sabril
    I agree with Guy that the odds are very much against you.

    Part of the problem is that in the past, pretty much all single women in their 20s were slender and childless and looking for a decent man to marry. These days, 70% of them are either overweight or single mothers or just looking to screw around with Chad or some combination thereof.

    The remaining girls are very much in demand and very aware of it. Why would they date a successful 60 year old when they are being pursued by legions of successful men in their 20s and 30s? The answer is that they wouldn't, not unless you brought extreme amounts of wealth and social status to the table.

    You are actually lucky that you got married before this sh*tshow started. There is a silent epidemic of men in their 20s who simply can't find any woman to date or marry.

    That said, I agree that for these celebrity men, you are seeing only the negative incidents. There are probably dozens of attractive young women who happily jumped into the casting couch with Harvey Weinstein and would been ecstatic to marry him. If you can achieve Weinstein-level power and success, you should have no problem finding your young sweetheart.

    Indeed, please see Georgina Chapman.

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  147. Jack D says:

    The piling on continues. All of Charlie’s programs past and present taken off the air. He is an un-person now, must be memory holed. Orwell was the prophet of our age.

    Three new “accusers” come forward:

    1. Charlie puts his hand on college girl’s knee in backseat of car. She thought it was “grandfatherly” – poor Charlie, not in the game anymore. Does not make girls tingle the way he used to. Another time he invites her to his hotel room. She refuses and never hears from the war criminal again.

    2. Rose asks intern to meet at his townhouse. He answers doorbell in bathrobe. “Come in,” she remembers him telling her. “I still have to get dressed upstairs.” She felt uncomfortable with the situation but waited for him downstairs while he got dressed. “He was my dad’s age,” she said. Ouch.

    Rose drove her in his car to a West Village restaurant that he said he frequented, where they ate dinner and shared a bottle of wine. The woman recounted that when the check came Rose said he couldn’t pay the bill because the restaurant accepted only cash. She ended up paying, she said. No job offer followed from the war criminal.

    3. Intern delivers research to Rose’s apartment at the Sherry Netherland Hotel (Rose has a LOT of homes – at least 4). Rose opened the door wearing a bathrobe, which was closed, she said. It appeared that he had just emerged from the shower. He invited her into his apartment, and she declined.

    That’s it, that’s the whole story. A pat on the knee, opening a door wearing a bathrobe. For this a man’s career is destroyed. OTOH, not paying for dinner was dick-like considering that the man makes millions and he paid his interns NOTHING.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/charlie-rose-accused-of-improper-behavior-by-former-interns-2017-11

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    Yeah, it's pretty thin gruel on which to ruin a guy's career, especially when there are reports that people are still trying to pay off and silence BJC's current bimbos, and Harvey Weinstein paid some Italian model $1 million in 2015 for raping her.

    But as Kurt Schlicter says, The Left isn't gonna like playing by the new rules they made up.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Lots of people carry hardly any cash on them. It's dumb, in my opinion, but I see otherwise bright people carry less than 10 bucks with them all the time. I don't guess he had a choice there, but he could have sent her a check in the mail, or it could have been an excuse to meet her again.

    It might have given her a 2nd chance. "I came in my bathrobe, sorry, in a hurry to get to the studio. Uhhh, it doesn't have any pockets, so you pull the cash out of uhhh, there... I don't want to get your money all damp... speaking of damp, I notice ...."

    Don't dine in Chinatown without cash. They have signs on the walls that tell you, at least. Yeah, some of our hard-working immigrants aren't part of that whole white-man's tax deally.

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  148. Thea says:
    @Anon
    Yeah, it does, but why are they all getting exposed now?

    Next up is the ‘racists’ so they had to plow that path beforehand. We begin to learn that Brad Pitt once played Eenie meenie Miny Mo and Reese Withspoon referred to multi hued vase as ‘colored.’

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    ... wear the white hood and carry the lighter fluid?

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  149. guest says:
    @Guy de Champlagne
    I don't know you personally obviously. But there is a ridiculous tendency for men to think that there being other high status men with multiple partners somehow makes it more likely for them to have high status too, when really all these things are zero sum games. The fact that some men get to have high status women for decades just means that there are other men who will never get them, when they would of if male desirability had a lifespan more on par with that of women.

    I still just can't get over how dumb conservatives are for going along with these accusations just because the targets happen to be liberal (for the time being).

    “just because the targets happen to be liberal (for the time being)”

    They are mostly liberal, but not entirely. Could it possibly have escaped your notice that they’re going after Roy Moore right now, and went hard after Trump in ’16? Somehow, those guys didn’t fal. Yet liberals are falling all the time. It’s almost as if some people have figured out how to fight back and stay out of the way of their enemies destroying themselves.

    Anyway, about the “for the time being,” depends on from when you’re counting. Because you’re probably thinking post-Harvey, but the current hysteria could easily be pushed back to the feminist jihad on Fox News. Remember that? I didn’t give a fig, and even though they’re part of Conservatism, Inc.

    There was also Cosby, who was fair game partly because he spoke out repeatedly against black culture. And I already mentioned Trump. Pussygrabgate was one thing. Alicia Machado was supposed to be the frickin’ kill shot, and that was pseudo-sexual harassment. It’s no secret this stuff can be turned against the other side.

    But for now, it’s one of the most powerful weapons ever turned against the left. Firstly, because they really believe this stuff. Secondly, because they always double down. I don’t see the point in not using it simply because it could be turned against right. It already has been used against the right and will continue to be used no matter what we do.

    The only dark cloud is that it will benefit feminism long-term. That juggernaut must be stopped. But I’m not too worried.

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    whodathunkit

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  151. Jack D says:

    Rose was not a PBS employee. He owned and produced his own show and sold it to PBS (and Blumberg). The interns were (unpaid) employees of Charlie Rose, Inc.

    Unpaid internships are a huge racket – our economy is fundamentally shitty so many college grads (esp. females with “soft” majors in communications, etc.) have no chance of obtaining real employment (other than at Starbucks). So they are willing to take jobs “doing research” (getting coffee) for Charlie Rose in the hope of polishing their resume and maybe connecting with someone to get a real job. Mommie and Daddie are rich (or at least middle class) so they pay for Becky’s not inconsiderable apartment and expenses in NY or DC while Becky “networks” (gets coffee) at her unpaid “internship” (unpaid job).

    It’s bad enough when they do this stuff at non-profits (Clinton Foundation had, for all I know still has, TONS of unpaid interns while Hillary and Bill live like sultans) but profit making businesses like Charlie Rose, Inc. were doing this too. I think NY has now cracked down on the labor law violations this entails.

    So when Charlie offers to take them to dinner and discuss future job opportunities this is like a dream come true, at least until he opens the door in his bathrobe. Hugh Hefner was able to get away with this stuff until he was senile and in diapers because he was clear up front what working for him entailed (and because he was doing his recruiting at Hooters and not Columbia University). But Charlie Rose was supposed to be a serious journalist. As soon as he passed the invisible line between ” a little older but still tingles the girl’s panties” and “he reminds me of my father” or worse, grandfather, he was skating on thin ice with his bathrobe act but in his head he was still an irresistible chick magnet and not an old wrinkled man with thinning dyed hair when he was not wearing stage makeup and under flattering studio lights. Men have an intuitive understanding that women “hit the wall” and some age are no longer sexually attractive but they don’t realize that they are just as repulsive to young women even if they are rich and famous.

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    Unpaid internships are a huge racket – our economy is fundamentally shitty

    Employment to population ratios are right at the median of the last generation (0.60) and employee compensation per worker is higher than it has ever been.
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  152. @Dwright
    How could this man be any threat to other men’s wives?
    Just looking at him puts me to sleep, or is that his power?

    How could this man be any threat to other men’s wives?

    Exactly. Charlie exudes a vibe of beta male mediocrity. He’s rather obviously not very bright–not stupid, just not bright, mid-wattage–and an obvious example of someone who has a job because of Jewish privilege/ethnic-nepotism. I mean really 300 million people and Charlie Rose is PBS’s interview show guy?

    It would have been nice though if one of these wives had immediately told her husband and had him confront old Charlie and punch his ass out. I don’t know what the heck is wrong with these people.

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    Exactly. Charlie exudes a vibe of beta male mediocrity. He’s rather obviously not very bright–not stupid, just not bright, mid-wattage–

    He has a law degree from Duke and founded his own production company. He does all right.


    and an obvious example of someone who has a job because of Jewish privilege/ethnic-nepotism.

    Not sure why wire-pulling Joos take an interest in some dude from small town North Carolina.
    , @Steve Sailer
    Charlie Rose is about as Jewish as Pete Rose.
    , @Jack D
    One of the marks of the crazed anti-Semite is that he thinks that everyone [he hates] is Jewish. Charlie Rose - must be a Jew. Originally Chaim Rosenbergersteinmanovsky and shortened to Charlie Rose at Ellis Island.

    Wouldn't it be great if you could look these things up? But you can't trust the usual sources - they're controlled by Jews too. Charlie Rose is a North Carolina good old boy from a tobacco farm - lies put out by the Jewish controlled lying press.
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  153. Even the losers get lucky sometimes –Tom Petty [RIP]

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  154. @Cagey Beast
    How is Charlie Rose supposed to know what is or isn't okay to do? Seriously, have a look around at all the sexual high jinks that's celebrated and tell me how poor Charlie is supposed to know where the boundaries are? The same goes for even the lowest and most cretinous amongst these celebrities named and shamed this month.

    This all feels like "handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500" as Captain Willard said in Apocalypse Now. I think Charlie Rose is a globalist stooge, by the way.

    How is Charlie Rose supposed to know what is or isn’t okay to do? Seriously, have a look around at all the sexual high jinks that’s celebrated and tell me how poor Charlie is supposed to know where the boundaries are?

    I dunno, in the case of palming that “honeydew”, some guy–actually the guy whose house Charlie was visiting!–had legal paper on said “honeydew”. Slipping your paw up your host’s wife’s skirt for a nice squeeze … yeah I think even not-too-bright Charlie should know that’s generally understood to be bad form and beyond the pale–unless the couple in question has let it be known that their marriage is ending or simply a marriage of convenience.

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  155. @ic1000
    Mrs. ic1000 has loved watching Rose on CBS This Morning for some years, so I've seen more of that show than most commenters here.

    With the bloom off, the start of this morning's broadcast was something of a train wreck.

    For background, Charlie Rose has two sidekick announcers, middle-aged Oprah BFF Gayle King and pert brunette Nora O'Donnell. As noted in the above comments, Rose is distilled Pure Mainstream Media, with the conventional liberal establishment perspective on every issue. That said, he's obviously smart, and well-read, and able to speak knowledgeably about just about every subject that comes up on the news program.

    Ms. King and Ms. O'Donnell, not so much. Their commentary on any non-SJW segment is along the lines of "Uh, interesting," "Uh, inspiring," or "Uh, disturbing."

    So... what are these two hard-bitten reporters at the pinnacle of broadcast journalism gonna do about the dizzying fall of their leader? Ms King at 7:05 this morning:

    "I really am still reeling. I got an hour and 42 minutes of sleep last night. Both my son and my daughter called me, Oprah called me and said, 'Are you OK?' I am not OK. After reading that article in the Post, it was deeply disturbing, troubling and painful for me to read. That said, I think we have to make this matter to women – the women that have spoken up, the women who have not spoken up because they're afraid. I'm hoping that now they will take the step to speak out, too. This becomes a moment of truth. You know, I've enjoyed a friendship and a partnership with Charlie for the past five years. I've held him in such high regard and I'm really struggling because... [snip]

    ...I'm still trying to sort it out because this is not the man I know, but I'm also clearly on the side of the women who have been very hurt and very damaged by this.
     
    Non tl;dr version: I'm Shocked, Shocked! that Mr. Rose has been gambling routinely engaged in abusive sexual conduct towards his pretty-young-thing subordinates. True, this has been an open secret at CBS News for years. And true, I'm an anchorwoman at CBS This Morning because of my outstanding abilities as a journalist. But I knew nothing! Only now can I take the courageous step of throwing Charlie under the bus!

    I certainly hope that Ms. King and Ms. O'Donnell have enjoyed their time on the morning news. They have certainly earned their forthcoming promotions.

    The original “shocked, shocked” was in response to Humphrey Bogart/Rick Blaine indignantly demanding to know why “you are shutting me down?”

    Rick very well knew the reason, that some of the Germans visiting his American Café were loudly singing a patriotic German song and the locals responded by singing La Marseilles, the French national song, where Rick sided with them by nodding to the band to back them up instrumentally. The Germans couldn’t stand for this defiance by the conquered French colonists and natives (and lone “neutral” expatriate) of them being the Occupying Power. “Gambling has been going on in Rick’s Café” is followed by handing the usual wad-of-cash payoff to Inspector Renault, “your winnings, sir.”

    Yes gambling was going on along with the regular payoff to the Inspector to permit it to continue, that was the whole point of the place, and yes, it was against rules that were being ignored. What was in reality against the rules was Rick having the band back up the defiantly emotional singers of the French National Song.

    So if we are “shocked, shocked” that Charlie Rose routinely abused subordinates, the analogy you are making is that the rule against such abuse had been honored in its violation and the real reason Mr. Rose was fired is that he had violated a tacit rule against siding with the wrong political faction?

    Is there any evidence of this at all? Is there? And why was Charlie Rose outright fired rather than “reassigned” in the style of Brian “America’s Most Trusted Newsreader Telling an Iraq War Whopper to Whoever Would Sit and Listen” Williams?

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  156. @Anon
    I don't like his politics either. Waters is a globalist and pushes for colonization of EU by non-whites.

    But he is right on the West Bank issue. I mean, the Palestinians should at least be given that.

    What I don't get is this. Defense of West Bank is NATIONALIST and anti-imperialist. It denounces Zionist occupation and colonization of West Bank, the last remaining Palestinian territory. (Gaza is too small to count.) So, if Palestinian nationhood is justified, why don't small European nations have a right to survive? All European nations are small except Russia.

    But he is right on the West Bank issue. I mean, the Palestinians should at least be given that.

    But only the Christian ones.

    It denounces Zionist occupation and colonization of West Bank…

    … of the Jordan, and the Mediterranean.

    Nobody ever explains where those 6.1m Zionists are to be relocated, but the obvious choice would be for them to follow Natalie and Chaim here.

    No thanks. They can stay right where they are.

    (BTW, Natalie is married to a Millipied. Are human-insect unions recognized anywhere? Are they consummated by– pardon me– buggery?)

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  157. @Jack D
    The piling on continues. All of Charlie's programs past and present taken off the air. He is an un-person now, must be memory holed. Orwell was the prophet of our age.

    Three new "accusers" come forward:

    1. Charlie puts his hand on college girl's knee in backseat of car. She thought it was "grandfatherly" - poor Charlie, not in the game anymore. Does not make girls tingle the way he used to. Another time he invites her to his hotel room. She refuses and never hears from the war criminal again.

    2. Rose asks intern to meet at his townhouse. He answers doorbell in bathrobe. "Come in," she remembers him telling her. "I still have to get dressed upstairs." She felt uncomfortable with the situation but waited for him downstairs while he got dressed. "He was my dad's age," she said. Ouch.

    Rose drove her in his car to a West Village restaurant that he said he frequented, where they ate dinner and shared a bottle of wine. The woman recounted that when the check came Rose said he couldn't pay the bill because the restaurant accepted only cash. She ended up paying, she said. No job offer followed from the war criminal.

    3. Intern delivers research to Rose's apartment at the Sherry Netherland Hotel (Rose has a LOT of homes - at least 4). Rose opened the door wearing a bathrobe, which was closed, she said. It appeared that he had just emerged from the shower. He invited her into his apartment, and she declined.

    That's it, that's the whole story. A pat on the knee, opening a door wearing a bathrobe. For this a man's career is destroyed. OTOH, not paying for dinner was dick-like considering that the man makes millions and he paid his interns NOTHING.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/charlie-rose-accused-of-improper-behavior-by-former-interns-2017-11

    Yeah, it’s pretty thin gruel on which to ruin a guy’s career, especially when there are reports that people are still trying to pay off and silence BJC’s current bimbos, and Harvey Weinstein paid some Italian model $1 million in 2015 for raping her.

    But as Kurt Schlicter says, The Left isn’t gonna like playing by the new rules they made up.

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  158. @Rosamond Vincy
    It's probable Reagan was faithful when he was married. When he was not, apparently he got around.

    It’s probable Reagan was faithful when he was married.

    But Jane wasn’t. Iwan Morgan’s recent book depicts him as remarkably cucky about that, like he was ready to take her back when she got it out of her system.

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    Apparently, Nancy saw Jane as a threat for the rest of her life.
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  159. @L Woods
    Don’t worry, we largely do. Women in their prime years generally go to athletes, frat boys, drug dealers etc of their own age bracket.

    Women in their prime or do you mean prime women?

    The deal with Ms. Lewinsky is that her body-styling evoked no interest from athletes, frat boys or same-age drug dealers and even the nebbishes at her regular place-of-worship didn’t think that she was all that appealing, maybe for reasons of personality rather than being “Bet”-males (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_alphabet) where a full-figured lady with a generous chest and a pleasant-enough face was the best they could hope for?

    The deal with Mr. Clinton is that he saw past the girl with no appeal to same age athletes, frat boys, drug dealers and even “nice young men” and could see her earnestness of being eager-to-please? If she had appeal to the athletes, frat boys, drug dealers or men in her congregation in medical school, would she have given Mr. Clinton the time of day?

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    Would a woman give the time of day to (by one measure) the most powerful man in the world? I’m going to say yes.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    BJC was also willing to bang anything with a pulse. He wasn't real picky.
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  160. Forbes says:
    @Mr. Anon
    What Roger Waters says there is very cutting edge............for 1985. Just the usual trite lefty boilerplate: some warmed over Chomsky, evil "corporations", etc. - stuff that sounds deep and insightful to college freshmen.

    If you’ve never watched Roger Water’s The Wall–Live in Berlin, it’s filled with what can only be called Nazi art direction–imagery, costumes, choreography. I thought it very disturbing, bizarre.

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    Thanks for the recommendation. I'll check it out on YouTube.

    I'm not a big Pink Floyd fan. They're good musicians, but I was never wild about "The Wall", which I found to be a pretentious theme even for a 70s concept album - the poor, tortured recording artist, forced to sell-0ut to The Man. It's silly. All in all, I liked them better during their earlier "Dark Side of the Moon" era.
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  161. Matra says:

    I wondered about Rose and Norah O’Donnell. During the US Open tennis final in 2013 CBS was showing celebs in the crowd – Kevin Spacey(!), Alec Baldwin, Sean Connery – including Rose & O’Donnell. Showing the latter two was part of a segue to promote either Rose’s exclusive interview with Assad or Obama’s Syria policy announcement coming up on CBS News. It’s a rare celebrity shot during a sports event that I remember, despite having little interest in either of them, just because of how they looked sitting together.

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  162. @Jack D
    The piling on continues. All of Charlie's programs past and present taken off the air. He is an un-person now, must be memory holed. Orwell was the prophet of our age.

    Three new "accusers" come forward:

    1. Charlie puts his hand on college girl's knee in backseat of car. She thought it was "grandfatherly" - poor Charlie, not in the game anymore. Does not make girls tingle the way he used to. Another time he invites her to his hotel room. She refuses and never hears from the war criminal again.

    2. Rose asks intern to meet at his townhouse. He answers doorbell in bathrobe. "Come in," she remembers him telling her. "I still have to get dressed upstairs." She felt uncomfortable with the situation but waited for him downstairs while he got dressed. "He was my dad's age," she said. Ouch.

    Rose drove her in his car to a West Village restaurant that he said he frequented, where they ate dinner and shared a bottle of wine. The woman recounted that when the check came Rose said he couldn't pay the bill because the restaurant accepted only cash. She ended up paying, she said. No job offer followed from the war criminal.

    3. Intern delivers research to Rose's apartment at the Sherry Netherland Hotel (Rose has a LOT of homes - at least 4). Rose opened the door wearing a bathrobe, which was closed, she said. It appeared that he had just emerged from the shower. He invited her into his apartment, and she declined.

    That's it, that's the whole story. A pat on the knee, opening a door wearing a bathrobe. For this a man's career is destroyed. OTOH, not paying for dinner was dick-like considering that the man makes millions and he paid his interns NOTHING.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/charlie-rose-accused-of-improper-behavior-by-former-interns-2017-11

    Lots of people carry hardly any cash on them. It’s dumb, in my opinion, but I see otherwise bright people carry less than 10 bucks with them all the time. I don’t guess he had a choice there, but he could have sent her a check in the mail, or it could have been an excuse to meet her again.

    It might have given her a 2nd chance. “I came in my bathrobe, sorry, in a hurry to get to the studio. Uhhh, it doesn’t have any pockets, so you pull the cash out of uhhh, there… I don’t want to get your money all damp… speaking of damp, I notice ….”

    Don’t dine in Chinatown without cash. They have signs on the walls that tell you, at least. Yeah, some of our hard-working immigrants aren’t part of that whole white-man’s tax deally.

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  163. Forbes says:
    @Unit472
    Wonder if the Newseum in DC will open a Hall of Horror and feature wax figures of the most depraved media stars in leering poses and or exposing themselves. I'm sure it would become one of the top tourist attractions in DC!

    Well, a Hall of Horrors would be an actually interesting reason to visit the Newseum masoleum.

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  164. @sabril
    I agree with Guy that the odds are very much against you.

    Part of the problem is that in the past, pretty much all single women in their 20s were slender and childless and looking for a decent man to marry. These days, 70% of them are either overweight or single mothers or just looking to screw around with Chad or some combination thereof.

    The remaining girls are very much in demand and very aware of it. Why would they date a successful 60 year old when they are being pursued by legions of successful men in their 20s and 30s? The answer is that they wouldn't, not unless you brought extreme amounts of wealth and social status to the table.

    You are actually lucky that you got married before this sh*tshow started. There is a silent epidemic of men in their 20s who simply can't find any woman to date or marry.

    That said, I agree that for these celebrity men, you are seeing only the negative incidents. There are probably dozens of attractive young women who happily jumped into the casting couch with Harvey Weinstein and would been ecstatic to marry him. If you can achieve Weinstein-level power and success, you should have no problem finding your young sweetheart.

    There is this serious dating pool among 50-something women for 50-something men (and maybe a tad younger if men adjust their standards).

    It is a seriously desperate cohort of women, and they are a serious threat to a man’s marriage. If you are in the slightest bit unhappy in your marriage, there are women who are extremely eager to please if you adjust your standards on who you want to cheat with.

    This is not to say that any of these women wouldn’t want from you the same thing your wife expects from you, that is, putting a ring on it rather than some casual grope or romp. This is also not to say that any of them would not have unique and creative ways of making you unhappy after you have removed the ways you know about that your wife may make you unhappy.

    These women, as a class, pose a serious danger, especially for a beta-dude who knows he doesn’t stand the slightest chance with a woman half his age and these women are (at least initially, I am guessing) very, very eager to please, which is so dangerously flattering to the ego of a beta-male, especially if the old lady has long stopped expressing the same romantic longing. Heck, many a beta-male has not encountered romantic longings from a woman — they are Sirens from the Greek Myths, I tell you https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=simpsons+the+sirens&view=detail&mid=8172DA11EB2A9ED5AE778172DA11EB2A9ED5AE77&FORM=VIRE

    And if you think that the over 50′s are not sexy, I have one word for you — Osphena

    https://www.ispot.tv/ad/7fjC/osphena

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  165. @Thea
    Next up is the 'racists' so they had to plow that path beforehand. We begin to learn that Brad Pitt once played Eenie meenie Miny Mo and Reese Withspoon referred to multi hued vase as 'colored.'

    We begin to learn that Brad Pitt once played Eenie meenie Miny Mo …

    Which version? How are you supposed to decide who gets to …
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    … wear the white hood and carry the lighter fluid?

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  166. Art Deco says:
    @Anon
    You should care to the extent that the people who are crushing the Palestinians have power over the West. And globalism's end game will be White Nakba, the Palestinianization of whites in their homelands.

    Whites may not care about Palestinians but the people they serve, the Zionists, have the same plan for them that they had for Palestinians. Whites are to be colonized by diversity, demographically and sexually. Whites are 'Palestinians' in the metaphorical sense. And just like Americans aided and abetted the destruction of Palestine, they now call for the destruction of Europe. All powerful American institutions condemn Hungary and Turkey for not welcoming invasion. American media praise Merkel as the moral leader of Germany and the world.

    Christmas is now about the magic of Afro-colonization of white wombs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilG7KFKQo-g

    Those who control academia and media stuck homo flags in churches. Now, those who control advertising have white women dreaming of a black Christmas. Everything white and western are to be altered to celebrate blackness, homos, or rest of diversity.

    In this respect, Islam is better than Christianity. Can you imagine Muslims allowing Jews and globalists to drape a Mosque with homo colors? Can you imagine Ramadan being turned into celebration of Arab women going with Africans? West is totally cucked.

    This is why you should care about Palestinians. What was done to them was a template for what is being done to all the world. As Zionists occupy more of West Bank, they will pressure US and EU to take in more Palestinians as Puerto-Ricans of the Middle East, and these Puertostinians will vote 'left' or Democratic since the Right, despite or esp because condemned by Jews, is totally slavish to Zionists.
    The Right has to prove that it is not 'antisemitic', and one way is to bash Muslims in the name of protecting Jews. As Palestinians totally lose their nation, their only option left is to move to the West, and since the 'left' parties are more 'inclusive', Palestinians and 'Syrians' will go that way.

    You should care to the extent that the people who are crushing the Palestinians have power over the West.

    No one is crushing ‘the Palestinians’. They’re extensively subsidized through UNRWA and have been for nearly 70 years. As much as 50% of the income flow in Gaza consists of international aid.

    If their politicians actually wanted the West Bank and Gaza, they’d have opened negotiations for it in 1978, or extended a counter-offer in 2000 if they were dissatisfied with Israel’s offer, or accepted it when offered in 2008. You look at the public opinion surveys of the West Bank and Gaza and you see why their politicians ultimately flipped the Israeli government the bird: north of 1/3 of their public insists Israel cease to exist as the price of any settlement. Another 30% insist on a ‘right of return’, which means anyone in a fuzzily defined set of Arabs can settle in Israel. You only insist on such things if you operate under the illusion that you’re in a position to dictate terms to your enemy. They aren’t and never have been, but no one suggests cutting off the flow of funds to persuade Al Fatah, Hamas, and their votaries that maybe they ought to behave as if they lived in the actual physical world.

    As of now, about 60% of the population of Arabs outside the 1949 armistice lines live outside of Israeli civil administration and outside of Israel’s security patrols and most of the remainder live outside Israel’s civil administration. If they want the rest, the local Arabs can make an offer.

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    No one is crushing ‘the Palestinians’. They’re extensively subsidized through UNRWA and have been for nearly 70 years. As much as 50% of the income flow in Gaza consists of international aid.

    We are not necessarily talking of tanks running over Palestinians. It's true enough that Palestinians do get a lot of aid, and the conditions of Palestinians inside Israel is pretty good by Middle Eastern standards.

    But their aspirations for nationhood and sovereignty have been crushed. A people don't live by bread alone.

    Suppose China, Iran, or Russia takes over Israel and ethnically cleanses Jews into a corner and demographically change the nation. But suppose these Jews under occupation receive food, clothing, medicine,and are pretty well-taken care of. Sure, they are not being crushed under tanks. They are taken care of, but hasn't their Zionist pride and national sovereignty been crushed?

    Look at Puerto Rico. How pathetic. Totally dependent on the US. No pride whatsoever. They only bitch about more welfare and more benefits. Puertos materially gained under Yanquis but their spirit of independence was crushed totally.

    I have more respect for Cubans than for Puertos who are pathetic.

    And EU did the same to many nations. Greece would have done better not to join. Sure, it would have gotten less material goodies without joining the EU, but it would have had national pride. But, having become the Puerto Rico of EU, it's pathetic. Groveling and begging for more handouts.
    Greece should be called Puerto Greco.

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  167. Forbes says:
    @TTSSYF
    Very plausible, and right in line with the four-step process outlined by Lifson on the American Thinker website a few days ago. They are getting rid of the Clintons and otherwise clearing the decks so they can go after Trump without having to worry about any other major issue on their side. Why else now, and so many falling so quickly, like dominos?

    Seems they’re gonna have to work harder to make the Clintons go away, Hillary’s still coughing up tear-jerker conspiracy theories for her loss…

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  168. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D
    Rose was not a PBS employee. He owned and produced his own show and sold it to PBS (and Blumberg). The interns were (unpaid) employees of Charlie Rose, Inc.

    Unpaid internships are a huge racket - our economy is fundamentally shitty so many college grads (esp. females with "soft" majors in communications, etc.) have no chance of obtaining real employment (other than at Starbucks). So they are willing to take jobs "doing research" (getting coffee) for Charlie Rose in the hope of polishing their resume and maybe connecting with someone to get a real job. Mommie and Daddie are rich (or at least middle class) so they pay for Becky's not inconsiderable apartment and expenses in NY or DC while Becky "networks" (gets coffee) at her unpaid "internship" (unpaid job).

    It's bad enough when they do this stuff at non-profits (Clinton Foundation had, for all I know still has, TONS of unpaid interns while Hillary and Bill live like sultans) but profit making businesses like Charlie Rose, Inc. were doing this too. I think NY has now cracked down on the labor law violations this entails.


    So when Charlie offers to take them to dinner and discuss future job opportunities this is like a dream come true, at least until he opens the door in his bathrobe. Hugh Hefner was able to get away with this stuff until he was senile and in diapers because he was clear up front what working for him entailed (and because he was doing his recruiting at Hooters and not Columbia University). But Charlie Rose was supposed to be a serious journalist. As soon as he passed the invisible line between " a little older but still tingles the girl's panties" and "he reminds me of my father" or worse, grandfather, he was skating on thin ice with his bathrobe act but in his head he was still an irresistible chick magnet and not an old wrinkled man with thinning dyed hair when he was not wearing stage makeup and under flattering studio lights. Men have an intuitive understanding that women "hit the wall" and some age are no longer sexually attractive but they don't realize that they are just as repulsive to young women even if they are rich and famous.

    Unpaid internships are a huge racket – our economy is fundamentally shitty

    Employment to population ratios are right at the median of the last generation (0.60) and employee compensation per worker is higher than it has ever been.

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    Tractor production has exceeded Five Year Plan!
    , @AnotherDad

    Employment to population ratios are right at the median of the last generation (0.60) and employee compensation per worker is higher than it has ever been.
     
    Are you sure that's normed properly?

    But in any case, under those covers there has clearly been some shifting ground. Working age males have the highest non-employment, I believe "ever", but if not at least since the Great Depression. The people who are supposed to be--who need to be--at work for the society to function properly are more and more not at work.


    As to compensation, that stat is not like the other. We continue to roll out technological improvements which should be raising labor productivity at least to some extent. So, of course, "now"--containing all the productivity enhancements of mankind to date--should always have the highest worker compensation ever. The question is, is the compensation where one would expect it to be given the technology improvements. Are we seeing the productivity growth? And is that productivity growth flowing through to wages? Then the further question is the wage growth that we see sufficient to raise living standards in light of prices? There are some things--like housing in the coastal metros--that have simply hammered down on living standards.

    The other area here is that while compensation is--again unsurprisingly--at an all time high, more people in the labor force have college degrees than ever before. So while the average compensation is at an all time high, we still have a lot of people where their expected "college educated compensation" and the lifestyle it affords is not where they expected, nor where "college educated" would put them relative to "college educated" in previous generations.

    And this is all with exceedingly low real interest rates. It will be interesting to hear the howls when interest rates rise and housing affordability takes a real tumble.

    ~~

    Note, none of this is to dispute that Americans generally have an excellent standard of living. No one--absent health issues--who doesn't do stupid stuff should have any problem keeping a roof over their heads and food on the table. We have--as people have noted for years--fat "poor people".

    The great struggle in American life--that has generally become more difficult--is for folks to find suitable marriages and places to have a decent family life *away* from the "diversity" our elites insist on imposing. I think it's mostly the constant anxiety over being sucked down that's a big source of economic unhappiness.
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  169. Forbes says:
    @TTSSYF
    Agreed. While I can't deny that part of me is enjoying seeing all of these supposed defenders of women's rights and self-righteous hypocrites being hoisted on their own petards, ultimately I couldn't care less whether someone's butt was grabbed for five seconds eight years ago and actually think it's a dangerous road to go down. If it wasn't egregious enough to say or do something about it at the time, then don't bring it up now and ruin someone's career.

    I couldn’t care less whether someone’s butt was grabbed for five seconds eight years ago and actually think it’s a dangerous road to go down.

    Think of it as the prog-left learning to live with their own rules. And pass the popcorn. The rest of us stopped with the adolescent ass-grabbing pranks when we stopped being adolescents.

    As for ruining someone’s career–well they made a career out of being a lecherous rude jerk. Seems like just deserts. What goes around, comes around.

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  170. Art Deco says:
    @AnotherDad

    How could this man be any threat to other men’s wives?
     
    Exactly. Charlie exudes a vibe of beta male mediocrity. He's rather obviously not very bright--not stupid, just not bright, mid-wattage--and an obvious example of someone who has a job because of Jewish privilege/ethnic-nepotism. I mean really 300 million people and Charlie Rose is PBS's interview show guy?

    It would have been nice though if one of these wives had immediately told her husband and had him confront old Charlie and punch his ass out. I don't know what the heck is wrong with these people.

    Exactly. Charlie exudes a vibe of beta male mediocrity. He’s rather obviously not very bright–not stupid, just not bright, mid-wattage–

    He has a law degree from Duke and founded his own production company. He does all right.

    and an obvious example of someone who has a job because of Jewish privilege/ethnic-nepotism.

    Not sure why wire-pulling Joos take an interest in some dude from small town North Carolina.

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  171. prusmc says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    I wonder to what extent this purge is a knock-on effect of Hillary losing the election.

    With the Clinton juggernaut stopped, donations to the Clinton foundation dried up. That meant fewer sinecures available for left-leaning pundits. That made high-level journalism gigs even more precious, and guys like Charlie Rose and Mark Halperin were hogging multiple, lucrative gigs each.

    Plus, with the Clintons brought low, it was open season on Weinstein, and with Weinstein felled, his hush money to journalists must have dried up too.

    Bill Clinton is going to visit Puerto Rico and
    lend time, fund raising and expetise to efforts at recovering from the devastation
    caused by Hurricane Maria. New York and Florida support for HRC or a repeat of the successful Haiti relief project?

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  172. Elsewhere on the abuse front: Do you notice two errors in the following “lede”?

    EXCLUSIVE: The Department of Justice on Tuesday filed lawsuits to revoke the U.S. citizenship of five immigrants who pleaded guilty to sexually abusing minors in incidents determined to have taken place before they became naturalized, Fox News has learned.

    The answers are, the number being spelled out, and the word “before”.

    Because the style books say only spell out numbers under ten– excuse me, 10– and there are a hell of a lot more cases than that.

    And I’m sure there are plenty more which happened after their naturalization, too. Why shouldn’t they also have their citizenship revoked?

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    And los hombres aren't the only problem:

    http://www.wlwt.com/article/babysitter-forced-4-year-old-boy-to-perform-sex-acts-on-her-police-say/12035975
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  173. Forbes says:
    @CJ

    The entire current sexual harassment stuff is a witch hunt against against boomers.
     
    Liked your post Doctor, but I gotta nitpick this one. Charlie Rose (b. 1942) is not a boomer. Like his contemporaries Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, and Nancy Pelosi, he is a pre-boomer, a member of the so-called Silent Generation (although he and Joe and Bernie and Nancy never shut up). They were already through college before the 1960s social waves really hit.

    It’s something that regularly needs pointing out, that this so-called silent generation is responsible for a lot of the grief that gets heaped on Boomers. E.g. the summer of ’68, days of rage, Weather Underground, Democratic Convention protests, the Chicago Seven (Eight), Hayden, Rubin, et al., Woodstock…

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  174. @Reg Cæsar
    Elsewhere on the abuse front: Do you notice two errors in the following "lede"?

    EXCLUSIVE: The Department of Justice on Tuesday filed lawsuits to revoke the U.S. citizenship of five immigrants who pleaded guilty to sexually abusing minors in incidents determined to have taken place before they became naturalized, Fox News has learned.
     
    The answers are, the number being spelled out, and the word "before".

    Because the style books say only spell out numbers under ten-- excuse me, 10-- and there are a hell of a lot more cases than that.

    And I'm sure there are plenty more which happened after their naturalization, too. Why shouldn't they also have their citizenship revoked?
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  175. @Anonymous
    Well now I know why he was nicknamed "Rosebud."

    Well now I know why he was nicknamed “Rosebud.”

    The Rosebuds were the first US-based team to go to the Stanley Cup Final, so the name once had some cachet.

    That was a long time ago, granted, back when several clubs in Canada went by the name “Swastikas”.

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  176. Michelle says:

    I can’t wait for them to get something nasty on Bill Moyers! I hate Bill Moyers. Not really, just joshing. I am heartily sick of all this nonsense. I take no personal umbrage against men who were/are just trying to get a little sumptin’ sumptin’. It is their nature. I wish that we could shove this cat back into the bag and leave these poor men alone. Exposing peoples’ private predilections is uncalled for. As my grandma said about Gary Hart, “They are persecuting him”.

    All these men, excluding, Sylvester Stallone, are being persecuted.

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  177. Dumbo says:

    The truth is, this is commonplace. People who work in the media tend to be narcissistic. And these type of men with power have a lot of opportunities to misbehave as there are lot of women with low moral values and crazy for fame too. So they figure that if they make a pass or just grab their asses, maybe one will not like it, but other two will. And I guess they were right – until the age of Social Media when everyone is famous for 15 seconds bit them back in the ass.

    I say, Schadenfraude.

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  178. Forbes says:
    @Anonymous
    Also, one needs an absolutely clean record to be a police officer.

    That rules out, at the very like least, the majority of the 'pool' of blacks.

    Not true in most large cities as the need for a racial/ethnic representative force outweighs the youthful indiscretions that previously justified the rejections. Non-violent and drug possession arrests are now often overlooked after scrutiny. Suburban and state police forces still maintain the luxury of clean records and high standards due to attractiveness of the job.

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  179. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Art Deco
    You should care to the extent that the people who are crushing the Palestinians have power over the West.

    No one is crushing 'the Palestinians'. They're extensively subsidized through UNRWA and have been for nearly 70 years. As much as 50% of the income flow in Gaza consists of international aid.

    If their politicians actually wanted the West Bank and Gaza, they'd have opened negotiations for it in 1978, or extended a counter-offer in 2000 if they were dissatisfied with Israel's offer, or accepted it when offered in 2008. You look at the public opinion surveys of the West Bank and Gaza and you see why their politicians ultimately flipped the Israeli government the bird: north of 1/3 of their public insists Israel cease to exist as the price of any settlement. Another 30% insist on a 'right of return', which means anyone in a fuzzily defined set of Arabs can settle in Israel. You only insist on such things if you operate under the illusion that you're in a position to dictate terms to your enemy. They aren't and never have been, but no one suggests cutting off the flow of funds to persuade Al Fatah, Hamas, and their votaries that maybe they ought to behave as if they lived in the actual physical world.

    As of now, about 60% of the population of Arabs outside the 1949 armistice lines live outside of Israeli civil administration and outside of Israel's security patrols and most of the remainder live outside Israel's civil administration. If they want the rest, the local Arabs can make an offer.

    No one is crushing ‘the Palestinians’. They’re extensively subsidized through UNRWA and have been for nearly 70 years. As much as 50% of the income flow in Gaza consists of international aid.

    We are not necessarily talking of tanks running over Palestinians. It’s true enough that Palestinians do get a lot of aid, and the conditions of Palestinians inside Israel is pretty good by Middle Eastern standards.

    But their aspirations for nationhood and sovereignty have been crushed. A people don’t live by bread alone.

    Suppose China, Iran, or Russia takes over Israel and ethnically cleanses Jews into a corner and demographically change the nation. But suppose these Jews under occupation receive food, clothing, medicine,and are pretty well-taken care of. Sure, they are not being crushed under tanks. They are taken care of, but hasn’t their Zionist pride and national sovereignty been crushed?

    Look at Puerto Rico. How pathetic. Totally dependent on the US. No pride whatsoever. They only bitch about more welfare and more benefits. Puertos materially gained under Yanquis but their spirit of independence was crushed totally.

    I have more respect for Cubans than for Puertos who are pathetic.

    And EU did the same to many nations. Greece would have done better not to join. Sure, it would have gotten less material goodies without joining the EU, but it would have had national pride. But, having become the Puerto Rico of EU, it’s pathetic. Groveling and begging for more handouts.
    Greece should be called Puerto Greco.

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    But their aspirations for nationhood and sovereignty have been crushed. A people don’t live by bread alone.

    There are 20-odd Arab states, not to mention 3 Arab states where the Levantine spectrum of dialects is modal. That aside, there have been five separate occasions over 50 years when Arab authorities rebuffed any sort of negotiation, accommodation or offer which might have improved their situation (most spectacularly at the end of the shambolic Oslo process, when Israel learned they'd been scammed by Al Fatah for seven years). If they want to see who's at fault, they can look in the mirror. As is, they've been given what amount to unilateral concessions (see, for example, the withdrawal from Gaza) and done nothing constructive with them. Sorry, out of sympathy.
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  180. Forbes says:
    @Inquiring Mind
    Two prepositions

    1. The man is a "Living National Treasure" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_National_Treasure_(Japan)

    Yeah, yeah, Charlie Rose drinks the Globalist Kool-Aid, blah, blah, but look at the posted interview with Harry Lee, who is a canonized saint these days among immigration skeptics and neo-reactionaries. Mr. Rose's politics may be a polar opposite, but he gave Mr. Lee a respectful hearing.

    2. Rose's wandering hands are long, long well known (see grandparent post/link). He is also divorced and hence not cheating on his wife. The story goes that Gary Hart once whined, "What about Bob Kerrey?" when the disgraced presidential candidate was reminded, "Bob Kerrey isn't married."

    With those two factors in mind, could not PBS upper management have supplied Mr. Rose with "minders" or "chaperons"? Isn't there a "trope" of the "executive receptionist who knows more about the company than the CEO" whispering to the "pretty young thing" "OK, when you go in there, just don't turn your back to him"?

    If the guy was that important to the PBS brand, couldn't they have spared the necessary labor in supervision to keep his groping to a tolerable level? Is Charlie Rose that influential that upper PBS execs couldn't keep their Living National Treasure out of trouble, at least, in work settings?

    There are no PBS minders anywhere. Besides PBS is based in DC, and Rose works in NYC. Rose independently produces his own show and sells it to PBS and Bloomberg for distribution. That would be like PBS sending minders around to supervise Ken Burns.

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  181. @ic1000
    Mrs. ic1000 has loved watching Rose on CBS This Morning for some years, so I've seen more of that show than most commenters here.

    With the bloom off, the start of this morning's broadcast was something of a train wreck.

    For background, Charlie Rose has two sidekick announcers, middle-aged Oprah BFF Gayle King and pert brunette Nora O'Donnell. As noted in the above comments, Rose is distilled Pure Mainstream Media, with the conventional liberal establishment perspective on every issue. That said, he's obviously smart, and well-read, and able to speak knowledgeably about just about every subject that comes up on the news program.

    Ms. King and Ms. O'Donnell, not so much. Their commentary on any non-SJW segment is along the lines of "Uh, interesting," "Uh, inspiring," or "Uh, disturbing."

    So... what are these two hard-bitten reporters at the pinnacle of broadcast journalism gonna do about the dizzying fall of their leader? Ms King at 7:05 this morning:

    "I really am still reeling. I got an hour and 42 minutes of sleep last night. Both my son and my daughter called me, Oprah called me and said, 'Are you OK?' I am not OK. After reading that article in the Post, it was deeply disturbing, troubling and painful for me to read. That said, I think we have to make this matter to women – the women that have spoken up, the women who have not spoken up because they're afraid. I'm hoping that now they will take the step to speak out, too. This becomes a moment of truth. You know, I've enjoyed a friendship and a partnership with Charlie for the past five years. I've held him in such high regard and I'm really struggling because... [snip]

    ...I'm still trying to sort it out because this is not the man I know, but I'm also clearly on the side of the women who have been very hurt and very damaged by this.
     
    Non tl;dr version: I'm Shocked, Shocked! that Mr. Rose has been gambling routinely engaged in abusive sexual conduct towards his pretty-young-thing subordinates. True, this has been an open secret at CBS News for years. And true, I'm an anchorwoman at CBS This Morning because of my outstanding abilities as a journalist. But I knew nothing! Only now can I take the courageous step of throwing Charlie under the bus!

    I certainly hope that Ms. King and Ms. O'Donnell have enjoyed their time on the morning news. They have certainly earned their forthcoming promotions.

    “True, this has been an open secret at CBS News for years. And true, I’m an anchorwoman at CBS This Morning because of my outstanding abilities as a journalist. But I knew nothing! Only now can I take the courageous step of throwing Charlie under the bus!”

    You know, that’s a good point. Not only is this an indictment of Charlie Rose and his executive producer / procuress / passive enabler /dental model Yvette Vega, but this is an indictment of all of the other so-called journalists who shared the stage with Charlie Rose. A journalist’s job is pretty straight forward: find the truth and report it. Yet here they all had a huge headline story literally (which I mean in the literal sense) staring them in the face for years, yet they all either failed to notice, were afraid to report it or colluded in covering it up. It doesn’t really matter which one they did, since all are prima facie disqualifications from their so-called profession. Every one of them should resign into wilderness exile.

    Of course they won’t. Instead, the survivors of the current round will be promoted, and the Fake News parade will go on…

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  182. @TTSSYF
    Very plausible, and right in line with the four-step process outlined by Lifson on the American Thinker website a few days ago. They are getting rid of the Clintons and otherwise clearing the decks so they can go after Trump without having to worry about any other major issue on their side. Why else now, and so many falling so quickly, like dominos?

    If so, it is a pretty stupid plan since stuff like that doesn’t work on President Trump.

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    Yeah, the Dems took their best shots during the campaign and they went nowhere. Anyone composing a four-step game plan out of this to take down Trump has been smokin' too much weed.

    This is clickbait journalism at work, in the midst of a feminist moral panic and meltdown.
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  183. Forbes says:
    @ic1000
    Mrs. ic1000 has loved watching Rose on CBS This Morning for some years, so I've seen more of that show than most commenters here.

    With the bloom off, the start of this morning's broadcast was something of a train wreck.

    For background, Charlie Rose has two sidekick announcers, middle-aged Oprah BFF Gayle King and pert brunette Nora O'Donnell. As noted in the above comments, Rose is distilled Pure Mainstream Media, with the conventional liberal establishment perspective on every issue. That said, he's obviously smart, and well-read, and able to speak knowledgeably about just about every subject that comes up on the news program.

    Ms. King and Ms. O'Donnell, not so much. Their commentary on any non-SJW segment is along the lines of "Uh, interesting," "Uh, inspiring," or "Uh, disturbing."

    So... what are these two hard-bitten reporters at the pinnacle of broadcast journalism gonna do about the dizzying fall of their leader? Ms King at 7:05 this morning:

    "I really am still reeling. I got an hour and 42 minutes of sleep last night. Both my son and my daughter called me, Oprah called me and said, 'Are you OK?' I am not OK. After reading that article in the Post, it was deeply disturbing, troubling and painful for me to read. That said, I think we have to make this matter to women – the women that have spoken up, the women who have not spoken up because they're afraid. I'm hoping that now they will take the step to speak out, too. This becomes a moment of truth. You know, I've enjoyed a friendship and a partnership with Charlie for the past five years. I've held him in such high regard and I'm really struggling because... [snip]

    ...I'm still trying to sort it out because this is not the man I know, but I'm also clearly on the side of the women who have been very hurt and very damaged by this.
     
    Non tl;dr version: I'm Shocked, Shocked! that Mr. Rose has been gambling routinely engaged in abusive sexual conduct towards his pretty-young-thing subordinates. True, this has been an open secret at CBS News for years. And true, I'm an anchorwoman at CBS This Morning because of my outstanding abilities as a journalist. But I knew nothing! Only now can I take the courageous step of throwing Charlie under the bus!

    I certainly hope that Ms. King and Ms. O'Donnell have enjoyed their time on the morning news. They have certainly earned their forthcoming promotions.

    Obviously, a show such as CBS This Morning is not in the news business, and can’t really be taken seriously if they let the on-air talent (talking heads) ramble on with their personal struggles, and emotionally-revealing troubles due to a colleague’s indiscretions.

    Her monologue reads like a parody, name-dropping “important” people who called her, advocating for the sisterhood, behaving as if there were a death in the family. It’s a friggin’ soap opera…

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  184. Forbes says:
    @James Braxton
    If so, it is a pretty stupid plan since stuff like that doesn't work on President Trump.

    Yeah, the Dems took their best shots during the campaign and they went nowhere. Anyone composing a four-step game plan out of this to take down Trump has been smokin’ too much weed.

    This is clickbait journalism at work, in the midst of a feminist moral panic and meltdown.

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  185. @Clyde
    Blame this on inflation?
    A new record for a Harvey harassment payout. One million dollars.
    "Harvey Weinstein paid model Ambra Battilana Gutierrez $1 million in 2015 after he allegedly groped her in his office"
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5103997/Harvey-Weinstein-paid-Italian-model-1-million-settlement.html

    Wow. One grope for $1 mil? Dang, I’d take that deal any day.

    I confess, I won’t click on the DM, so maybe it was multiple gropes, in which case maybe the price is too low.

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  186. Svigor says:

    K, so, the Big Media people are being purged via a secret plan triggered by Weinstein’s Thing. Purged because they blew the last election. Not for lack of trying mind you; they were 100% in the tank for cankles. We’ll just move on past wondering how Hillary doesn’t get the blame, when she didn’t campaign in at least one of the key states she lost.

    So, the Big Media people are being purged. Two questions:

    1. Who is doing the purging? It isn’t the Big Media bosses; they can just fire people and avoid the huge blow to legitimacy that their industry is in the process of taking.

    2. Why are the Big Media bosses just standing there and watching the purge happen? Are they in the habit of letting someone else purge their companies why they stand by and twiddle their thumbs?

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  187. @Steve Sailer
    Back in the 1990s in Chicago, I once saw two cop cars roar up and four police officers jump out: a white, a black, a Latino, and an East Asian.

    How long had you been going to that massage parlor?

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  188. Svigor says:

    Sorry, three four questions:

    3. Why don’t the MotU just get the guys who run Big Media on the horn and tell them to fire a lot of people? And to make it known why?

    4. Isn’t sending a message to media people more something that goes out over the grapevine, rather than the airwaves? The public doesn’t need to get the message (the public needs not to get the message) – the media drones do. A few posts at placed like Journolist would get the word out, discreetly.

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  189. @The Last Real Calvinist

    One by one these liberal icons are falling like dominoes. Couldn’t have happened to a better group of brain dead, morally bankrupt hypocrites.

    I’ve known this for years but the world is finally getting a true revelation, that the only two things the false religion of Liberalism worship are Greed and Lust. Everything else liberals do – often under the guise of “equality” and “justice”, is just a cover up for all the greed and lust that really drive them. That’s why they can’t get away from all the hypocrisy.

     

    What do you think about the theory I've seen floating around that there's a broader plan behind this wave of 'true revelation' in lefty circles?

    As I've seen it, the theory goes that great swathes of the Clinton camp are being systematically sacrificed on sex charges. The wave will crest with Billy C finally being called out for a big public shaming.

    This (theoretically) serves the American left's purposes in two ways.

    First, it clears the political decks of lingering, and now counterproductive, Clinton influences. The Dems will finally be free of them.

    Second, it's battlespace prep for impeaching/otherwise ousting Trump in 2018 on sexual harassment charges.

    Plausible? Or is it all just a spontaneous surge of SJW energy that's been building for a long time?

    …it’s battlespace prep for impeaching/otherwise ousting Trump in 2018 on sexual harassment charges.

    Let’s hope they haven’t dug up anything too weird. Daddy likes his daughter a little too much. (He’s honest about it though, so it’s highly unlikely that there is a problem.)

    You can’t blame him for recognizing beauty, but still, he’s her father.

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  190. @AnotherDad

    How could this man be any threat to other men’s wives?
     
    Exactly. Charlie exudes a vibe of beta male mediocrity. He's rather obviously not very bright--not stupid, just not bright, mid-wattage--and an obvious example of someone who has a job because of Jewish privilege/ethnic-nepotism. I mean really 300 million people and Charlie Rose is PBS's interview show guy?

    It would have been nice though if one of these wives had immediately told her husband and had him confront old Charlie and punch his ass out. I don't know what the heck is wrong with these people.

    Charlie Rose is about as Jewish as Pete Rose.

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    Charlie Rose is about as Jewish as Charlie Hustle. Has a nicer ring to it.
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  191. Thea says:
    @Forbes
    Seems they're gonna have to work harder to make the Clintons go away, Hillary's still coughing up tear-jerker conspiracy theories for her loss...

    The longer she hangs around as a thorn in their side, the better.

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  192. L Woods says:
    @Inquiring Mind
    Women in their prime or do you mean prime women?

    The deal with Ms. Lewinsky is that her body-styling evoked no interest from athletes, frat boys or same-age drug dealers and even the nebbishes at her regular place-of-worship didn't think that she was all that appealing, maybe for reasons of personality rather than being "Bet"-males (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_alphabet) where a full-figured lady with a generous chest and a pleasant-enough face was the best they could hope for?

    The deal with Mr. Clinton is that he saw past the girl with no appeal to same age athletes, frat boys, drug dealers and even "nice young men" and could see her earnestness of being eager-to-please? If she had appeal to the athletes, frat boys, drug dealers or men in her congregation in medical school, would she have given Mr. Clinton the time of day?

    Would a woman give the time of day to (by one measure) the most powerful man in the world? I’m going to say yes.

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  193. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco
    Unpaid internships are a huge racket – our economy is fundamentally shitty

    Employment to population ratios are right at the median of the last generation (0.60) and employee compensation per worker is higher than it has ever been.

    Tractor production has exceeded Five Year Plan!

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  194. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    How could this man be any threat to other men’s wives?
     
    Exactly. Charlie exudes a vibe of beta male mediocrity. He's rather obviously not very bright--not stupid, just not bright, mid-wattage--and an obvious example of someone who has a job because of Jewish privilege/ethnic-nepotism. I mean really 300 million people and Charlie Rose is PBS's interview show guy?

    It would have been nice though if one of these wives had immediately told her husband and had him confront old Charlie and punch his ass out. I don't know what the heck is wrong with these people.

    One of the marks of the crazed anti-Semite is that he thinks that everyone [he hates] is Jewish. Charlie Rose – must be a Jew. Originally Chaim Rosenbergersteinmanovsky and shortened to Charlie Rose at Ellis Island.

    Wouldn’t it be great if you could look these things up? But you can’t trust the usual sources – they’re controlled by Jews too. Charlie Rose is a North Carolina good old boy from a tobacco farm – lies put out by the Jewish controlled lying press.

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    In 1992, Rose began dating socialite and former New York City Planning Commissioner Amanda Burden, a stepdaughter of CBS founder William S. Paley. In 2011, Rose told a Financial Times reporter that he and Burden had stopped dating in about 2006. [Wikipedia.]

    Synagogue membership is not the only beanstalk that helps social climbers get to the land of the golden goose.

    , @AnotherDad
    I stand corrected by all three of you guys Art, Steve, Jack on Charlie Rose's "gentility." And take my lumps for laziness in not looking up his background before i shot my mouth off. Embarassing mistake to be calling someone--relative to his middlebrow peers--dumb, while being clueless and lazy myself.

    And i'll give him a tiny bit more credit for making it in big media coming out of North Carolina and Duke as a gentile, rather than the Ivy League as a Jew.

    But pretty much stand by the rest of it. I'm sure he has hustle--way more than me. But he simply does not strike one--or at least me--as a guy who is very sharp intellectually. I haven't watched him a huge amount, but still have seen hours and hours of the guy, and it's just unimpressive stuff. Not very probing or insightfull, certainly not drilling into any of the interesting questions. Could be he's sharp as a stick, but just lazy or wants to have a gauzy bland patina on his show. Heck if i know. But that's how he's struck me for 30-something years.
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    OTOH, Joey Ramone was Jeffrey Hyman. Can't really blame him for changing that.

    BTW, once saw Charlie Rose interviewing the Beastie Boys. He asked them if their religion/ethnicity had influenced their work, and they looked at him like he was stupid.
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  195. @Steve Sailer
    Charlie Rose is about as Jewish as Pete Rose.

    Charlie Rose is about as Jewish as Charlie Hustle. Has a nicer ring to it.

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  196. The truth is that these stories all seriously depress me. If it’s all but impossible for rich and/or famous guys like Charlie Rose, Kevin Spacey, and Louis CK to find hot, attractive young golddiggers then what hope do the rest of us less rich, less famous people have?

    Ain’t that the truth? Actually I look at this from my perspective being 66 years old and having a gorgeous wife of 29 who had been with me for 6 years, and 2 wonderful little children, and then I look at these Weinsteins, Clintons, and Roses and they all seem rather pathetic, even though Weinstein does have a young family, and it seems like their problem is really that for all their fame and wealth, they are so self absorbed with their own fame, that they don’t want to have real relationships with other people–even with the help of Viagra, they just want to jerk off in front of young women.

    Mick Jagger is old, but at least he still has children with his women, but these guys are just depressing.

    I am not discounting the possibility that some of the allegations are exaggerated or false, or from people seeing compensation, but there are so many that there has to be something to it.

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  197. @Jack D
    One of the marks of the crazed anti-Semite is that he thinks that everyone [he hates] is Jewish. Charlie Rose - must be a Jew. Originally Chaim Rosenbergersteinmanovsky and shortened to Charlie Rose at Ellis Island.

    Wouldn't it be great if you could look these things up? But you can't trust the usual sources - they're controlled by Jews too. Charlie Rose is a North Carolina good old boy from a tobacco farm - lies put out by the Jewish controlled lying press.

    In 1992, Rose began dating socialite and former New York City Planning Commissioner Amanda Burden, a stepdaughter of CBS founder William S. Paley. In 2011, Rose told a Financial Times reporter that he and Burden had stopped dating in about 2006. [Wikipedia.]

    Synagogue membership is not the only beanstalk that helps social climbers get to the land of the golden goose.

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    Rose was in 1992 50 years old and quite well-established at CBS. All of his current activities were going concerns already at that time. He didn't need any favors from William Paley's family and Paley himself was dead by that time.
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  198. @Jack D
    One of the marks of the crazed anti-Semite is that he thinks that everyone [he hates] is Jewish. Charlie Rose - must be a Jew. Originally Chaim Rosenbergersteinmanovsky and shortened to Charlie Rose at Ellis Island.

    Wouldn't it be great if you could look these things up? But you can't trust the usual sources - they're controlled by Jews too. Charlie Rose is a North Carolina good old boy from a tobacco farm - lies put out by the Jewish controlled lying press.

    I stand corrected by all three of you guys Art, Steve, Jack on Charlie Rose’s “gentility.” And take my lumps for laziness in not looking up his background before i shot my mouth off. Embarassing mistake to be calling someone–relative to his middlebrow peers–dumb, while being clueless and lazy myself.

    And i’ll give him a tiny bit more credit for making it in big media coming out of North Carolina and Duke as a gentile, rather than the Ivy League as a Jew.

    But pretty much stand by the rest of it. I’m sure he has hustle–way more than me. But he simply does not strike one–or at least me–as a guy who is very sharp intellectually. I haven’t watched him a huge amount, but still have seen hours and hours of the guy, and it’s just unimpressive stuff. Not very probing or insightfull, certainly not drilling into any of the interesting questions. Could be he’s sharp as a stick, but just lazy or wants to have a gauzy bland patina on his show. Heck if i know. But that’s how he’s struck me for 30-something years.

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  199. @Art Deco
    Unpaid internships are a huge racket – our economy is fundamentally shitty

    Employment to population ratios are right at the median of the last generation (0.60) and employee compensation per worker is higher than it has ever been.

    Employment to population ratios are right at the median of the last generation (0.60) and employee compensation per worker is higher than it has ever been.

    Are you sure that’s normed properly?

    But in any case, under those covers there has clearly been some shifting ground. Working age males have the highest non-employment, I believe “ever”, but if not at least since the Great Depression. The people who are supposed to be–who need to be–at work for the society to function properly are more and more not at work.

    As to compensation, that stat is not like the other. We continue to roll out technological improvements which should be raising labor productivity at least to some extent. So, of course, “now”–containing all the productivity enhancements of mankind to date–should always have the highest worker compensation ever. The question is, is the compensation where one would expect it to be given the technology improvements. Are we seeing the productivity growth? And is that productivity growth flowing through to wages? Then the further question is the wage growth that we see sufficient to raise living standards in light of prices? There are some things–like housing in the coastal metros–that have simply hammered down on living standards.

    The other area here is that while compensation is–again unsurprisingly–at an all time high, more people in the labor force have college degrees than ever before. So while the average compensation is at an all time high, we still have a lot of people where their expected “college educated compensation” and the lifestyle it affords is not where they expected, nor where “college educated” would put them relative to “college educated” in previous generations.

    And this is all with exceedingly low real interest rates. It will be interesting to hear the howls when interest rates rise and housing affordability takes a real tumble.

    ~~

    Note, none of this is to dispute that Americans generally have an excellent standard of living. No one–absent health issues–who doesn’t do stupid stuff should have any problem keeping a roof over their heads and food on the table. We have–as people have noted for years–fat “poor people”.

    The great struggle in American life–that has generally become more difficult–is for folks to find suitable marriages and places to have a decent family life *away* from the “diversity” our elites insist on imposing. I think it’s mostly the constant anxiety over being sucked down that’s a big source of economic unhappiness.

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  200. @Reg Cæsar

    It’s probable Reagan was faithful when he was married.
     
    But Jane wasn't. Iwan Morgan's recent book depicts him as remarkably cucky about that, like he was ready to take her back when she got it out of her system.

    Apparently, Nancy saw Jane as a threat for the rest of her life.

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    There isn't much indication that Nancy Reagan saw Jane Wyman as a 'threat', just a spectre she did not much care for for several reasons. From Edmund Morris and her own memoirs you can glean that she found it distasteful that Reagan was once married to someone else, that she didn't like how Jane Wyman persuaded RR to marry her or how she'd treated him at the end, and that she was particularly aghast at what Jane Wyman thought apposite in dealing with her children (Michael in particular). Nancy Reagan had as congenial an upbringing as it was possible to have with divorced parents and Jane Wyman's gamesmanship and general callousness were foreign to her.
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  201. @Jack D
    One of the marks of the crazed anti-Semite is that he thinks that everyone [he hates] is Jewish. Charlie Rose - must be a Jew. Originally Chaim Rosenbergersteinmanovsky and shortened to Charlie Rose at Ellis Island.

    Wouldn't it be great if you could look these things up? But you can't trust the usual sources - they're controlled by Jews too. Charlie Rose is a North Carolina good old boy from a tobacco farm - lies put out by the Jewish controlled lying press.

    OTOH, Joey Ramone was Jeffrey Hyman. Can’t really blame him for changing that.

    BTW, once saw Charlie Rose interviewing the Beastie Boys. He asked them if their religion/ethnicity had influenced their work, and they looked at him like he was stupid.

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  202. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anon
    You should care to the extent that the people who are crushing the Palestinians have power over the West. And globalism's end game will be White Nakba, the Palestinianization of whites in their homelands.

    Whites may not care about Palestinians but the people they serve, the Zionists, have the same plan for them that they had for Palestinians. Whites are to be colonized by diversity, demographically and sexually. Whites are 'Palestinians' in the metaphorical sense. And just like Americans aided and abetted the destruction of Palestine, they now call for the destruction of Europe. All powerful American institutions condemn Hungary and Turkey for not welcoming invasion. American media praise Merkel as the moral leader of Germany and the world.

    Christmas is now about the magic of Afro-colonization of white wombs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilG7KFKQo-g

    Those who control academia and media stuck homo flags in churches. Now, those who control advertising have white women dreaming of a black Christmas. Everything white and western are to be altered to celebrate blackness, homos, or rest of diversity.

    In this respect, Islam is better than Christianity. Can you imagine Muslims allowing Jews and globalists to drape a Mosque with homo colors? Can you imagine Ramadan being turned into celebration of Arab women going with Africans? West is totally cucked.

    This is why you should care about Palestinians. What was done to them was a template for what is being done to all the world. As Zionists occupy more of West Bank, they will pressure US and EU to take in more Palestinians as Puerto-Ricans of the Middle East, and these Puertostinians will vote 'left' or Democratic since the Right, despite or esp because condemned by Jews, is totally slavish to Zionists.
    The Right has to prove that it is not 'antisemitic', and one way is to bash Muslims in the name of protecting Jews. As Palestinians totally lose their nation, their only option left is to move to the West, and since the 'left' parties are more 'inclusive', Palestinians and 'Syrians' will go that way.

    TL:DR. Like I said, I don’t care about Palestine.

    And I don’t believe that the way to promote the interests of white peoples in white countries is to white-knight for ‘the other’ – some foreign people with whom I have no connection.

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  203. Mr. Anon says:
    @Forbes
    If you've never watched Roger Water's The Wall--Live in Berlin, it's filled with what can only be called Nazi art direction--imagery, costumes, choreography. I thought it very disturbing, bizarre.

    Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll check it out on YouTube.

    I’m not a big Pink Floyd fan. They’re good musicians, but I was never wild about “The Wall”, which I found to be a pretentious theme even for a 70s concept album – the poor, tortured recording artist, forced to sell-0ut to The Man. It’s silly. All in all, I liked them better during their earlier “Dark Side of the Moon” era.

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  204. Svigor says:

    Charlie Rose’s face doesn’t say “Jew.” It’s not way un-Jewish (like, say, Robert Patrick), but it doesn’t even hint of Jewish, either. He looks English to me.

    Proper Jewdar operation includes a face-check.

    Not a lot of Jewish guys in media with southern accents, either. Not that Rose has a Kentucky twang, or anything, but it’s there.

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  205. Svigor says:

    TL:DR. Like I said, I don’t care about Palestine.

    And I don’t believe that the way to promote the interests of white peoples in white countries is to white-knight for ‘the other’ – some foreign people with whom I have no connection.

    It’s not white-knighting to drag the Jews over their treatment of the Palestinians, it’s kulturkampf. Sort of like how Jews don’t marry blacks because they aren’t white-knighting for them, they’re using them.

    Same goes for the ongoing Big Media Purge; if anything, the local dissenters are white-knighting for rich Hollywood pervs. You don’t interrupt your enemies while they’re killing each other; you cheer.

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  206. Svigor says:

    BTW, once saw Charlie Rose interviewing the Beastie Boys. He asked them if their religion/ethnicity had influenced their work, and they looked at him like he was stupid.

    “Doesn’t the goy know he’s not allowed to ask that?”

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    I think they were amused, not offended. The problem was that he was old and tragically unhip. The Beastie Boys got LL Cool J signed.
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  207. Art Deco says:
    @Anon
    No one is crushing ‘the Palestinians’. They’re extensively subsidized through UNRWA and have been for nearly 70 years. As much as 50% of the income flow in Gaza consists of international aid.

    We are not necessarily talking of tanks running over Palestinians. It's true enough that Palestinians do get a lot of aid, and the conditions of Palestinians inside Israel is pretty good by Middle Eastern standards.

    But their aspirations for nationhood and sovereignty have been crushed. A people don't live by bread alone.

    Suppose China, Iran, or Russia takes over Israel and ethnically cleanses Jews into a corner and demographically change the nation. But suppose these Jews under occupation receive food, clothing, medicine,and are pretty well-taken care of. Sure, they are not being crushed under tanks. They are taken care of, but hasn't their Zionist pride and national sovereignty been crushed?

    Look at Puerto Rico. How pathetic. Totally dependent on the US. No pride whatsoever. They only bitch about more welfare and more benefits. Puertos materially gained under Yanquis but their spirit of independence was crushed totally.

    I have more respect for Cubans than for Puertos who are pathetic.

    And EU did the same to many nations. Greece would have done better not to join. Sure, it would have gotten less material goodies without joining the EU, but it would have had national pride. But, having become the Puerto Rico of EU, it's pathetic. Groveling and begging for more handouts.
    Greece should be called Puerto Greco.

    But their aspirations for nationhood and sovereignty have been crushed. A people don’t live by bread alone.

    There are 20-odd Arab states, not to mention 3 Arab states where the Levantine spectrum of dialects is modal. That aside, there have been five separate occasions over 50 years when Arab authorities rebuffed any sort of negotiation, accommodation or offer which might have improved their situation (most spectacularly at the end of the shambolic Oslo process, when Israel learned they’d been scammed by Al Fatah for seven years). If they want to see who’s at fault, they can look in the mirror. As is, they’ve been given what amount to unilateral concessions (see, for example, the withdrawal from Gaza) and done nothing constructive with them. Sorry, out of sympathy.

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    "There are 20-odd Arab states, not to mention 3 Arab states where the Levantine spectrum of dialects is modal."

    You pompous horse's ass. You write like an ADHD college freshman who's been locked in a room with a thesaurus.

    So how long have you been a member of Mensa?
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    Every now and then there are Palestinian Christians selling Bethlehem olive wood rosaries and creches, etc. outside my church. I have asked them about life under Jews vs Muslims, and it sounds like it's horrible either way.

    If there is ANY hope of a Palestinian homeland, it must be majority Christian. Muslims destroy. They destroyed the Buddhist statues, they destroyed the reputed grave of the prophet Jonah, even though they accept his prophecies. Egypt once had a healthy tourist economy, not the least hurt by the publicity it got for location shooting for Ten Commandments and a James Bond movie. The Muslim Brotherhood wanted to blow up or at least wax over the pyramids and the Sphinx. If any tourists would have bothered to go there, they'd fear assault, like that reporter who was mistaken for an Israeli because she was blonde. Some Muslims want to blow up Mecca, because it "encourages idolatry."

    To lump Christians and Muslims under one "Palestinian" rule--almost certainly Muslim--solves nothing. You can bet how their legal and justice systems will lean; we've seen it in other Muslim-ruled countries.

    Without extremists to destroy historical sites and people like Arafat to steal the profits, they could have a fantastic tourist economy, with b-n-bs, restaurants, memento vendors, guides, and so on benefitting from the vicinity of historical sites--and that's not even counting all the other industries that could flourish. But it won't work unless these Christians, descendants of some of the first Christians in the world, have self-rule.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Abba Eban said, "Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity."

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Abba_Eban
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  208. Art Deco says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    In 1992, Rose began dating socialite and former New York City Planning Commissioner Amanda Burden, a stepdaughter of CBS founder William S. Paley. In 2011, Rose told a Financial Times reporter that he and Burden had stopped dating in about 2006. [Wikipedia.]

    Synagogue membership is not the only beanstalk that helps social climbers get to the land of the golden goose.

    Rose was in 1992 50 years old and quite well-established at CBS. All of his current activities were going concerns already at that time. He didn’t need any favors from William Paley’s family and Paley himself was dead by that time.

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  209. Mr. Anon says:
    @Art Deco
    But their aspirations for nationhood and sovereignty have been crushed. A people don’t live by bread alone.

    There are 20-odd Arab states, not to mention 3 Arab states where the Levantine spectrum of dialects is modal. That aside, there have been five separate occasions over 50 years when Arab authorities rebuffed any sort of negotiation, accommodation or offer which might have improved their situation (most spectacularly at the end of the shambolic Oslo process, when Israel learned they'd been scammed by Al Fatah for seven years). If they want to see who's at fault, they can look in the mirror. As is, they've been given what amount to unilateral concessions (see, for example, the withdrawal from Gaza) and done nothing constructive with them. Sorry, out of sympathy.

    “There are 20-odd Arab states, not to mention 3 Arab states where the Levantine spectrum of dialects is modal.”

    You pompous horse’s ass. You write like an ADHD college freshman who’s been locked in a room with a thesaurus.

    So how long have you been a member of Mensa?

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    So how long have you been a member of Mensa?

    I gather they rejected your application.
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  210. Art Deco says:
    @Mr. Anon
    "There are 20-odd Arab states, not to mention 3 Arab states where the Levantine spectrum of dialects is modal."

    You pompous horse's ass. You write like an ADHD college freshman who's been locked in a room with a thesaurus.

    So how long have you been a member of Mensa?

    So how long have you been a member of Mensa?

    I gather they rejected your application.

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    I gather they rejected your application.
     
    No, I was eligible to join, but when I saw what it mostly seemed to consist of - pathetic, socially inept, middle-aged men of no accomplishment - I decided against. It would seem to be right up your alley though.
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  211. Art Deco says:
    @Rosamond Vincy
    Apparently, Nancy saw Jane as a threat for the rest of her life.

    There isn’t much indication that Nancy Reagan saw Jane Wyman as a ‘threat’, just a spectre she did not much care for for several reasons. From Edmund Morris and her own memoirs you can glean that she found it distasteful that Reagan was once married to someone else, that she didn’t like how Jane Wyman persuaded RR to marry her or how she’d treated him at the end, and that she was particularly aghast at what Jane Wyman thought apposite in dealing with her children (Michael in particular). Nancy Reagan had as congenial an upbringing as it was possible to have with divorced parents and Jane Wyman’s gamesmanship and general callousness were foreign to her.

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    I read somewhere that she was afraid Ronald would go back to her, but maybe that's just celebrity gossip. They certainly seemed like they truly loved each other, and I don't think they were such brilliant actors that they could have faked it believably.
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  212. @Art Deco
    There isn't much indication that Nancy Reagan saw Jane Wyman as a 'threat', just a spectre she did not much care for for several reasons. From Edmund Morris and her own memoirs you can glean that she found it distasteful that Reagan was once married to someone else, that she didn't like how Jane Wyman persuaded RR to marry her or how she'd treated him at the end, and that she was particularly aghast at what Jane Wyman thought apposite in dealing with her children (Michael in particular). Nancy Reagan had as congenial an upbringing as it was possible to have with divorced parents and Jane Wyman's gamesmanship and general callousness were foreign to her.

    I read somewhere that she was afraid Ronald would go back to her, but maybe that’s just celebrity gossip. They certainly seemed like they truly loved each other, and I don’t think they were such brilliant actors that they could have faked it believably.

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  213. @Svigor

    BTW, once saw Charlie Rose interviewing the Beastie Boys. He asked them if their religion/ethnicity had influenced their work, and they looked at him like he was stupid.
     
    "Doesn't the goy know he's not allowed to ask that?"

    I think they were amused, not offended. The problem was that he was old and tragically unhip. The Beastie Boys got LL Cool J signed.

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  214. @Inquiring Mind
    Women in their prime or do you mean prime women?

    The deal with Ms. Lewinsky is that her body-styling evoked no interest from athletes, frat boys or same-age drug dealers and even the nebbishes at her regular place-of-worship didn't think that she was all that appealing, maybe for reasons of personality rather than being "Bet"-males (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_alphabet) where a full-figured lady with a generous chest and a pleasant-enough face was the best they could hope for?

    The deal with Mr. Clinton is that he saw past the girl with no appeal to same age athletes, frat boys, drug dealers and even "nice young men" and could see her earnestness of being eager-to-please? If she had appeal to the athletes, frat boys, drug dealers or men in her congregation in medical school, would she have given Mr. Clinton the time of day?

    BJC was also willing to bang anything with a pulse. He wasn’t real picky.

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  215. @Art Deco
    But their aspirations for nationhood and sovereignty have been crushed. A people don’t live by bread alone.

    There are 20-odd Arab states, not to mention 3 Arab states where the Levantine spectrum of dialects is modal. That aside, there have been five separate occasions over 50 years when Arab authorities rebuffed any sort of negotiation, accommodation or offer which might have improved their situation (most spectacularly at the end of the shambolic Oslo process, when Israel learned they'd been scammed by Al Fatah for seven years). If they want to see who's at fault, they can look in the mirror. As is, they've been given what amount to unilateral concessions (see, for example, the withdrawal from Gaza) and done nothing constructive with them. Sorry, out of sympathy.

    Every now and then there are Palestinian Christians selling Bethlehem olive wood rosaries and creches, etc. outside my church. I have asked them about life under Jews vs Muslims, and it sounds like it’s horrible either way.

    If there is ANY hope of a Palestinian homeland, it must be majority Christian. Muslims destroy. They destroyed the Buddhist statues, they destroyed the reputed grave of the prophet Jonah, even though they accept his prophecies. Egypt once had a healthy tourist economy, not the least hurt by the publicity it got for location shooting for Ten Commandments and a James Bond movie. The Muslim Brotherhood wanted to blow up or at least wax over the pyramids and the Sphinx. If any tourists would have bothered to go there, they’d fear assault, like that reporter who was mistaken for an Israeli because she was blonde. Some Muslims want to blow up Mecca, because it “encourages idolatry.”

    To lump Christians and Muslims under one “Palestinian” rule–almost certainly Muslim–solves nothing. You can bet how their legal and justice systems will lean; we’ve seen it in other Muslim-ruled countries.

    Without extremists to destroy historical sites and people like Arafat to steal the profits, they could have a fantastic tourist economy, with b-n-bs, restaurants, memento vendors, guides, and so on benefitting from the vicinity of historical sites–and that’s not even counting all the other industries that could flourish. But it won’t work unless these Christians, descendants of some of the first Christians in the world, have self-rule.

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  216. @Art Deco
    But their aspirations for nationhood and sovereignty have been crushed. A people don’t live by bread alone.

    There are 20-odd Arab states, not to mention 3 Arab states where the Levantine spectrum of dialects is modal. That aside, there have been five separate occasions over 50 years when Arab authorities rebuffed any sort of negotiation, accommodation or offer which might have improved their situation (most spectacularly at the end of the shambolic Oslo process, when Israel learned they'd been scammed by Al Fatah for seven years). If they want to see who's at fault, they can look in the mirror. As is, they've been given what amount to unilateral concessions (see, for example, the withdrawal from Gaza) and done nothing constructive with them. Sorry, out of sympathy.

    Abba Eban said, “Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.”

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Abba_Eban

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  217. Lagertha says:

    this is totally dumb..and the usual people like the “Jacks” who hate me will chime in; but: But, I knew 15 years ago that Charlie Rose was not like Charlie Brown – sweet, innocent , humble Charlie Brown. Charlie Brown still hung on to his “truth,” as they say. Charlie Brown knew he wasn’t cool, but he was always, always, righteous and honest.

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  218. Mr. Anon says:
    @Art Deco
    So how long have you been a member of Mensa?

    I gather they rejected your application.

    I gather they rejected your application.

    No, I was eligible to join, but when I saw what it mostly seemed to consist of – pathetic, socially inept, middle-aged men of no accomplishment – I decided against. It would seem to be right up your alley though.

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