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Here’s a posting by popular novelist Michael Chabon (author of The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay, a fictionalized version of the early days of the superhero comic book industry that is likely his best book; I’ve read his Yiddish Policeman’s Union set in an alternate history in which Ashkenazi Jews rescued from Europe live on an Alaskan island; it wasn’t bad) and his wife Ayelet Waldman:

AN OPEN LETTER TO OUR FELLOW JEWS

To our fellow Jews, in the United States, in Israel, and around the world:

We know that, up to now, some of you have made an effort to reserve judgment on the question of whether or not President Donald Trump is an anti-Semite, and to give him the benefit of the doubt. …

Yesterday, in a long and ragged off-the-cuff address to the press corps, President Trump told us. During a moment that white supremacist godfather Steve Bannon has apparently described as a “defining” one for this Administration, the President expressed admiration and sympathy for a group of white supremacist demonstrators who marched through the streets of Charlottesville, flaunting Swastikas and openly chanting, along with vile racist slogans, “Jews will not replace us!” Among those demonstrators, according to Trump, were “a lot” of “innocent” and “very fine people.”

So, now you know. …

Now he’s coming after you. The question is: what are you going to do about it? If you don’t feel, or can’t show, any concern, pain or understanding for the persecution and demonization of others, at least show a little self-interest. At least show a little sechel. At the very least, show a little self-respect.

To Steven Mnuchin, Gary Cohn, and our other fellow Jews currently serving under this odious regime: We call upon you to resign; and to the President’s lawyer, Michael D. Cohen: Fire your client.

To Sheldon Adelson and our other fellow Jews still engaged in making the repugnant calculation that a hater of Arabs must be a lover of Jews, or that money trumps hate, or that a million dollars’ worth of access can protect you from one boot heel at the door: Wise up.

To the government of Israel, and our fellow Jews living there: Wise up.

To Jared Kushner: You have one minute to do whatever it takes to keep the history of your people from looking back on you as among its greatest traitors, and greatest fools; that minute is nearly past. To Ivanka Trump: Allow us to teach you an ancient and venerable phrase, long employed by Jewish parents and children to one another at such moments of family crisis: I’ll sit shiva for you. Try it out on your father; see how it goes.

Among all the bleak and violent truths that found confirmation or came slouching into view amid the torchlight of Charlottesville is this: Any Jew, anywhere, who does not act to oppose President Donald Trump and his administration acts in favor of anti-Semitism; any Jew who does not condemn the President, directly and by name, for his racism, white supremacism, intolerance and Jew hatred, condones all of those things.

To our fellow Jews, in North America, in Israel, and around the world: What side are you on?

Sincerely,
Michael Chabon
Ayelet Waldman
Berkeley, California, 8/16/17

I wrote about Chabon at some length in 2010 in VDARE, in response to Chabon’s lengthy diatribe about the “stereotype” that Jews tend to have higher IQs on average. My conclusion:

Allow me to suggest a completely different moral. The clear evidence of higher average Ashkenazi IQ implies that American Jews should take to heart an admirable bit of 20th Century Jewish wisdom, one with which an expert on comic books like Chabon ought to be familiar—Stan Lee’s line in Spider-Man: “With great power comes great responsibility.”

If, say, as reported by the Jewish Telegraph Agency, Jews make up over 1/3rd of the 2009 Forbes 400, and if Jews make up half of the 2009 Atlantic 50 of most influential political pundits, then that implies that Jews, owing in part to their higher average cognitive functioning, should embrace greater responsibility.

Instead of viewing themselves as beleaguered victims, they should admit that they now comprise an elite within America—and that they should apply to themselves an updated version of the old cavalier concept of noblesse oblige.

 
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    JUDEA DECLARES WAR ON AMERICA?

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    JUDEA DECLARES WAR ON AMERICA?

    Jews of All the World Unite in Action?

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  3. newrouter says:

    “To our fellow Jews, in North America, in Israel, and around the world: What side are you on?”

    mikey the tribe firsty no schmuck?

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    • Replies: @Dmitry134564
    Chabon is one of the most anti-Israel guys there is. So he hardly has any solidarity for other Jews.
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  4. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    In group good Out group bad.

    Ad nauseam.

    Very ……… sophisticated, and can be run by any group of fools, Nazis (Black Dress) or Commies (Red Dress). Very versatile and yet timeless, never seeming to go out of style.

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    Stendhal wrote about the Red and the Black, too. How times have changed.
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  5. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Now he’s coming after you. The question is: what are you going to do about it?

    To Steven Mnuchin, Gary Cohn, and our other fellow Jews currently serving under this odious regime: We call upon you to resign; and to the President’s lawyer, Michael D. Cohen: Fire your client.

    So, basically, Mr Chabon thinks Donald Trump is going to “get” Jews, which I can only assume means some kind of genocide, and what he himself decides to do is to, basically, kvetch at people and try to guilt-trip people into quitting their jobs.

    Not flee the country. Not go into hiding. Not even attempt to just keep a low profile instead of making a huge, public spectacle of himself. Just to kvetch.

    I don’t understand these people. Is it one of those things where Jewish people all kind of realize that these statements are full of shit, but it’s just part of their culture to talk that way? If so, how does it work? Don’t they annoy each other when they do that?

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  6. Achilles says:

    Search and replace “Jew” for “White,” “anti-Semite” for “anti-White,” etc. mutatis mutandis and this ‘open letter’ would be banned on every major social media platform in the country and held up in every organ of the MSM oligarchy as an example of the most vile racism imaginable.

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    Among all the bleak and violent truths that found confirmation or came slouching into view amid the torchlight of Charlottesville arson fires of Ferguson is this: Any Jew White, anywhere, who does not act to oppose President Donald Trump Barack Obama and his administration acts in favor of anti-Semitism anti-White racism; any Jew White who does not condemn the President, directly and by name, for his racism, white black supremacism, intolerance and Jew White hatred, condones all of those things.
     
    Of course, the difference is that one could actually make a credible argument against Obama, Holder and Lynch on the basis above, although many observers (including Steve I believe) attribute a more sophisticated political reasoning to Obama's statements and actions, whereas for the Jews this is entirely a fraudulent exercise in gas-lighting, which has worked so many times for them in the USA in the past as a way to gain or exercise power for the benefit of their group over others that they might as well double-down and see what they can get from it.
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  7. Dan Hayes says:

    This screed is an operational definition of chutzpah.

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  8. Virtually all ‘open letters’ are silly things-just stunts by their writers.

    In this case the majority of Jews won’t read it and the majority of those who read it aren’t Jews.

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    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    Then Chabon must be a very stupid man.
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    Pretty egomaniacal. But got bad during Bush II as I recall. A lot of the cri de coeur shtick back then, too

    Isn’t this the part where someone quotes the “I’d like a Coke” genie joke from Boondock Saints at Chabon

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    When Chabon first emerged as a writer, he was treated like the greatest thing since sliced bread, and he’s been given ridiculous levels of praise ever since. This annoyed me, but only mildly, because every time I start to get up a head of steam about him, I remember he married Ayelet Waldman. Holy Moses, was that ever a masochistic thing to do.

    Waldman has the personality of Courtney Love and the appearence of the Wicked Witch of the West. She’s turning into a sharp-nosed crone these days. She’s written books about how she can’t stand children or raising them (she has 4), written a book about how she’s been treating her menopause with daily LSD, and made remarks about how her darling hubbie gave her venereal disease and cancerous lesions, etc., etc. I have no idea how he can keep from being driven crazy by her.

    There have been remarks that Chabon married her as a beard, because back in the 1980s when he first emerged, if you were a gay writer or wrote gay characters, you ended up in the gay lit ghetto, and you wouldn’t sell well enough to support an opulant lifestyle, and Chabon wanted that lifestyle. As a ‘straight’ writer with an occasional gay character, he was safely mainstream and could be bought by the masses. Hence, he needed a beard.

    Deep down, I suspect the female Jewish side of Chabon really wanted to be married to a neurotic, cranky, fussy, whiny, dictatorial, hovering, always-obsessed-with-his-spouse Jewish old man, and the closest thing he could find was Ayelet Waldman.

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    I hadn't heard the beard theory before, but he does seem to have a big focus on gayness. IIRC, he said people thought he was gay after writing The Mysteries of Pittsburgh (I saw it on TV -- not great, though I read the two novels Steve mentioned and agree with his assessment of them).

    Re the LSD: apparently that's pretty common now in Silicon Valley, if Hannah Kuchler is to be believed.
    https://twitter.com/FTLifeArts/status/896823759558107137
    , @MEH 0910
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayelet_Waldman#Blogs

    For a short time in 2004 and 2005, Waldman wrote a blog under the title "Bad Mother."[71] Her topics included sexuality, gay rights, motherhood, and her bipolar disorder.
     
    Hoo boy.
    , @International Jew
    Waldman ain't half bad looking for a 53-year-old woman, and in Berkeley she's way up there. Plus, she gave Chabon four biological children — those are her Israeli family values speaking — which is about four more than he woulda got from an American version of her. Yeah, she's kinda meshuga otherwise, but he is too so it can be a good match.
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  11. Is this supposed to be like the Jewish boycott of Germany, pre WWII ????

    How many people will listen to this guy, and what will the effect be? This is a serious question.

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    Was that apocryphal?
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    Ah, but doesn’t Mr. Chabon realize they are more effective working from the inside, so to speak?

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    Well that didn't work.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHtHBLWWAAAlZy_.jpg
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  13. syonredux says:

    So, now you know. …

    Now he’s coming after you.

    Bit curious….Will Trump go after his grandchildren first, or will he save them for last?

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  14. newrouter says:

    mike chabon making Pittsburgh gay since 1988:

    wiki:

    The Mysteries of Pittsburgh

    The fascist flag of gaydom is all over Shadyside. Burn that flag at your peril.

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    Is this supposed to be like the Jewish boycott of Germany, pre WWII ????

    How many people will listen to this guy, and what will the effect be? This is a serious question.

    Was that apocryphal?

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    Was that apocryphal?
     
    No, just a posteriori.

    And apoplectic.

    Is that acquiescent enough of your question for you?
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  16. Well isn’t this ironic. Congress is about to make it illegal to boycott Israel, but Jews make it mandatory to boycott Trump. Hopefully this will prompt a few JQ-averse normies to take a second look at things. The cycle of Jewish overreach is again playing out before our very eyes.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    "The cycle of Jewish overreach is again playing out before our very eyes."

    Got any evidence? Seems to me the most popular man for left wing Americans is Bernie and on the right is Bibi. His speech before Congress was interrupted by applause like twice per sentence.
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  17. Hockamaw says:

    Anti-Semitism is a foolish and self-destructive ideology, but in anti-Semites’ defense, the Jews make it really easy.

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  18. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    During the Chicago 7, 8, conspiracy trial, Abbie Hoffman attempted a semi-unctuous ethnic appeal on the presiding judge (also named Hoffman) calling the latter’s justicial ministrations a “shanda vor die goyim.” It didn’t succeed so well as a tactical matter, though I don’t think Abbie expected otherwise.

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    If only Hoffman could have realized the irony of /his/ saying such a thing.
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  19. Achilles says:
    @Achilles
    Search and replace "Jew" for "White," "anti-Semite" for "anti-White," etc. mutatis mutandis and this 'open letter' would be banned on every major social media platform in the country and held up in every organ of the MSM oligarchy as an example of the most vile racism imaginable.

    Among all the bleak and violent truths that found confirmation or came slouching into view amid the torchlight of Charlottesville arson fires of Ferguson is this: Any Jew White, anywhere, who does not act to oppose President Donald Trump Barack Obama and his administration acts in favor of anti-Semitism anti-White racism; any Jew White who does not condemn the President, directly and by name, for his racism, white black supremacism, intolerance and Jew White hatred, condones all of those things.

    Of course, the difference is that one could actually make a credible argument against Obama, Holder and Lynch on the basis above, although many observers (including Steve I believe) attribute a more sophisticated political reasoning to Obama’s statements and actions, whereas for the Jews this is entirely a fraudulent exercise in gas-lighting, which has worked so many times for them in the USA in the past as a way to gain or exercise power for the benefit of their group over others that they might as well double-down and see what they can get from it.

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  20. This video is interesting.

    I bet the burly guy in the video (0:08 to 0:11) scared Chabon.

    0:34 to 0:38 is worth paying attention to.

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    There seems to be real willful ignorance around this "Jews will not replace us" meme. It's clear that no one thinks Jewish numbers are large enough to replace anyone. Rather, the argument goes, that Jews are the instigators of policies--unfettered immigration among others--that tend to displace the native-born population.

    I assume that this meme is not accurately reported on because to do so would be to raise uncomfortable questions.
    , @anon
    0:34 to 0:38 is worth paying attention to.

    So it appears as though the response to "Jews will not replace us!" is, simultaneously, "How dare you suggest we would do that!" and "Yes we will.".

    That's happening so often these days that there should be a term for it.
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    @Anonymous
    Ah, but doesn't Mr. Chabon realize they are more effective working from the inside, so to speak?

    https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/899331650630365185

    Well that didn’t work.

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    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Jeez, Jews can’t catch break anywhere. Scary anti-immigrants in America, scary jihadi immigrants in Europe. It’s almost like none of this would be happening if some special people didn’t keep hypocritically pushing the Zeroth Amendment on all of the West.

    Introspection? Vhat ees dat you say?

    https://twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/899060324443201536

    https://twitter.com/Alba_Rising/status/899002430502916097

    I will give Benjamin Netanyahu and his son credit for not totally jumping on the Charlottesville outrage bandwagon. Hawkish Zionists with any brains realize that ostentatiously slamming White Nationalism means that Jewish Nationalism—the raison d’être of Israel itself—has no defense.

    P.S., Ayelet Waldman guest posting on Ta-Nehisi Coates’s erstwhile blog in 2010:

    Last spring the US Census Bureau released figures estimating that the state of Maine is 95.3 percent white. It is, in fact, the whitest state in the country, just edging out Vermont and West Virginia for that dubious distinction.
     
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Clarification—Anonymous, my comment wasn’t meant as a reply to you. I hit reply by mistake. I guess it works either way …
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    It's interesting which prominent advisors haven't been pushed out of the Trump administration or even questioned.

    Gary Cohn
    Dina Powell
    Steve Mnuchin

    What do all three have in common?

    They all worked at Goldman Sachs in very senior positions.

    Dina Powell started off her professional career by working in politics. Later, despite having no non-political experience, Goldman Sachs hired her and made her a partner. Which is a bit odd, as a non-finance background almost always is a disqualification from working on Wall Street. Becoming a Goldman partner with no financial experience is like a paralegal becoming the Chief of Surgery. Very strange.

    See below.

    Powell joined Goldman Sachs in 2007 as a managing director[5] and was named partner in 2010,[7] thus achieving one of the most highly sought-after prizes in American finance.[31] Powell has conceded that she joined Goldman Sachs despite having no background in the subject of finance, but has said that her entire career has been guided by the notion of not planning a lot but rather "just taking that leap of faith."[19]
     

    She married Richard C. Powell on January 10, 1998. A man who works in public relations, he became a managing director of the Washington-based Quinn Gillespie & Associates[15] and now is employed by Teneo as the president of Teneo Strategy.[21] Teneo is a firm founded by associates of the Clintons.[22]
     
    Mnuchin was Goldman's Chief Information Officer and Cohn was the Goldman Chief Operating Officer.

    Goldman Sachs is the permanent government.
    , @Dissident
    As an Orthodox Jew, I feel compelled to respond to the Daily Mail quote shown in the image by pointing-out the following. In reality, Steve Bannon's "'far-Right' views" are a lot less --if at all-- at odds with Judaism than the degeneracy-promoting Cultural Marxism, Globalism and Zionism that are obscenely called Jared and Ivanka's "Jewish faith".

    No doubt, some will say that in posting comments of this nature, I am suggesting that I consider myself an exemplar of Judaism and thereby subjecting myself to special, rigorous scrutiny of my own conduct and lifestyle. And that any evidence found of any area in which said conduct and lifestyle may fall short of the standards that I purport to subscribe-to would constitute evidence of hypocrisy on my part and thereby detract from, if not entirely negate, my credibility. But the very premise that such thinking is based upon is fallacious. For I have never criticized and certainly never condemned anyone merely for falling short, in personal conduct or lifestyle, of the often extremely rigorous standards that Torah Judaism demands. Nor have I ever claimed to always live-up to such standards myself. I do not judge others merely for such weaknesses and shortcomings, which all mere mortals, myself no exception, possess and, if at all conscientious, struggle with, to one degree or another.

    Rather, what I condemn, as a Jew, are people who perpetrate perversions of Judaism; people who, in the name of Judaism commit acts and, especially, promote ideologies and agendas that actually violate and desecrate the name of Judaism; people that engage in behavior that discredits, sullies and brings a bad name to Jews collectively and behavior that creates and exacerbates resentment and animosity toward Jews collectively.

    I trust that this distinction that I have made will be understood and appreciated by intelligent, fair-minded individuals.
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    “they should apply to themselves an updated version of the old cavalier concept of noblesse oblige.”

    I’m reminded of the snake story from Natural Born Killers. Promoting a change in nature can be noble-minded, but expecting it can be as equally foolish. This is just the way they are.

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    Noblesse oblige? Difficult to think that's the problem when you have literally billions in Jewish money going to medical institutions, universities, large numbers of charitable institutions, etc. And perhaps the greatest form of Jewish noblesse oblige embodied in the way they vote. Milton Himmelfarb's (Irving Kristol's brother-in-law) comment about Jews having the earnings of Episcopalians but voting like Puerto Ricans probably comes closest to the heart of the problem. Jews are perpetual outsiders, unable to free themselves of their history. They are nomadic as opposed to "blood and soil," and deep down feel greater empathy with those who share that trait, rather than those who once oppressed them. And who more nomadic than third-world-ers and their difficulty in assimilating, compared to the ease of Jewish people who have assimilated to such a degree that Adam Sandler could have a hit song resonating so strongly as it reminded (or was it pride...or just plain gloating?) them how many stars are actually fellow tribalists? As a new elite, the outsider status still leaves them in a degree of limbo, as one would think they would have more in common socially with non-Jewish whites, but of course that's not how it works in practice. There are still great amounts of middle-class and well-to-do Jews living in majority Jewish neighborhoods, joining Jewish country clubs, and socializing almost exclusively with other Jews (and not living with their third-world kin). And while the Jewish intermarriage rate is high, there's still strong peer pressure to marry within. So plenty of noblesse oblige, just not toward the white majority.
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  23. Ivy says:
    @Anon
    In group good Out group bad.

    Ad nauseam.

    Very ......... sophisticated, and can be run by any group of fools, Nazis (Black Dress) or Commies (Red Dress). Very versatile and yet timeless, never seeming to go out of style.

    Stendhal wrote about the Red and the Black, too. How times have changed.

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  24. @Anonymous
    Well that didn't work.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHtHBLWWAAAlZy_.jpg

    Jeez, Jews can’t catch break anywhere. Scary anti-immigrants in America, scary jihadi immigrants in Europe. It’s almost like none of this would be happening if some special people didn’t keep hypocritically pushing the Zeroth Amendment on all of the West.

    Introspection? Vhat ees dat you say?

    I will give Benjamin Netanyahu and his son credit for not totally jumping on the Charlottesville outrage bandwagon. Hawkish Zionists with any brains realize that ostentatiously slamming White Nationalism means that Jewish Nationalism—the raison d’être of Israel itself—has no defense.

    P.S., Ayelet Waldman guest posting on Ta-Nehisi Coates’s erstwhile blog in 2010:

    Last spring the US Census Bureau released figures estimating that the state of Maine is 95.3 percent white. It is, in fact, the whitest state in the country, just edging out Vermont and West Virginia for that dubious distinction.

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Moving to Israel to avoid terrorism doesn't make much sense, on the face of it.

    Moving to Israel makes more sense as a way of escaping a hostile state (as the Jewish girlfriend character in Houellebecq's Submission does).
    , @academic gossip

    Netanyahu and his son ... not totally jumping on the Charlottesville outrage bandwagon.
     
    Netanyahu's family is extremely "based". The patriarch, Netanyahu's father, was a militant ultra-Zionist who was said to have periods of disconnection from Bibi for being too soft on Arabs. His three sons all were special-forces commandos in the Israeli army (one KIA). Now his grandson tells it like it is:

    Netanyahu's son Yair ... caused a public outcry when he appeared to parrot Trump's sentiments. He wrote a Facebook post Wednesday saying the "neo nazis scums in Virginia" are a dying breed, but left-wing anti-fascist and Black Lives Matter groups, who he said hate Israel "just as much," are "getting stronger and stronger and becoming super dominant in American universities and public life."
     
    I don't know if Netanyahu will survive his own Deep State special prosecutor problems, but it is great to have him saying things that make sense and expose the insanity of American Jewish responses to Trumpism.
    , @academic gossip

    Netanyahu and his son ... not totally jumping on the Charlottesville outrage bandwagon.
     
    Netanyahu's family is extremely "based". The patriarch, Netanyahu's father, was a militant ultra-Zionist who was said to have periods of disconnection from Bibi for being too soft on Arabs. His three sons all were special forces commandos in the Israeli army (one of them killed in action). Now his grandson tells it like it is:

    Netanyahu's son Yair ... caused a public outcry when he appeared to parrot Trump's sentiments. He wrote a Facebook post Wednesday saying the "neo nazis scums in Virginia" are a dying breed, but left-wing anti-fascist and Black Lives Matter groups, who he said hate Israel "just as much," are "getting stronger and stronger and becoming super dominant in American universities and public life."
     
    I don't know if PM Netanyahu will survive his own Deep State special prosecutor problems, but it is great to have him saying sensible things that expose the insanity of liberal American Jewish paranoia about Trump.
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  25. RudyM says:

    What if Jews were to resign en masse from policy-making positions in the government?! What a tragedy.

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    What started all the hubbub was when KKK guerrilla maniacs blew up Ellis Island earlier this month. Well, actually not the whole island, specifically they tried to wrench down the Statue of Liberty. Well, not destroying it per se but entering the lobby & vandalizing the original draft of the Constitution in the pedestal. OK, it was a plaque of a poem, not a priceless manuscript, and technically no one tried to damage it. But the rioters were trying to get the plaque removed. OK, they didn’t riot, but they were very angrily protesting and compromising the Wretched Refuse Safe Space. OK, so it wasn’t anyone actually in New York at the island, it was a guy taking questions in the White House press room, who announced official condemnation of the plaque. All right, he didn’t say the plaque was good or bad, just that it was added to the statue later. And the remark about it being added was in response to a question about something else, not really about the plaque itself. And the guy was Jewish. BUT THAT’S NOT THE POINT

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  27. @Opinionator
    Was that apocryphal?

    Was that apocryphal?

    No, just a posteriori.

    And apoplectic.

    Is that acquiescent enough of your question for you?

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  28. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “I don’t understand these people

    Do you ever wonder if a lot of Jews have some weird case of group PTSD that they can’t deal with and it makes them act, as a group, way off the deep end?

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    The liberal double standards are long past tiresome.

    Chabon demonizes all supporters of Robert E Lee statuary in the crowd in Charlottesville because of the ludicrous (probably fedgov) Nazi element.

    But the masked thug violent Antifa element that has been brutalizing people all over the country does not cause those liberals in the crowds alongside Antifa to be demonized by association, ever.

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  30. @JohnnyWalker123
    This video is interesting.

    I bet the burly guy in the video (0:08 to 0:11) scared Chabon.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n12sjwk9FBE

    0:34 to 0:38 is worth paying attention to.

    There seems to be real willful ignorance around this “Jews will not replace us” meme. It’s clear that no one thinks Jewish numbers are large enough to replace anyone. Rather, the argument goes, that Jews are the instigators of policies–unfettered immigration among others–that tend to displace the native-born population.

    I assume that this meme is not accurately reported on because to do so would be to raise uncomfortable questions.

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    Someone posted a photo on Twitter of a woman holding a sign referring to her "wide, childbearing Jewish hips" re: replacement. I'm not sure her ignorance is willful. My guess is she is just ignorant, both about Jewish fertility numbers, and the immigration complaint. She probably assumes it was ever thus re: mass immigration.
    , @every.single.time
    Bill Kristol told me the lazy Americans https://www.amren.com/news/2017/02/bill-kristol-lazy-spoiled-white-working-class-replaced-immigrants/ ought to be replaced. Even if there were but a relative few out in flyover white wasteland with the ears to hear the proclamation, I'm betting that those who are writing and punditing from within the eruv have been having themselves quite the barrel of haughty laughs. Peter Beinart's 'we're your rulers already, goy, so we ain't gonna be taking your job at Wendy's' is certainly a top shelf zinger, and gracious, too!!! http://archive.is/7vqm3
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  31. @Anonymous
    Well that didn't work.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHtHBLWWAAAlZy_.jpg

    Clarification—Anonymous, my comment wasn’t meant as a reply to you. I hit reply by mistake. I guess it works either way …

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  32. I met Michael Chabon once, around 2011. He had worked on the script for the then forthcoming John Carter of Mars movie and I was a big fan of Burroughs’s Martin novels, so we talked Barsoom. Unfortunately, the movie was basically a failure.

    I’ve read several of his novels. He’s a creative guy. Unfortunately, this exercise in ultra virtue signalling is not his best work.

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    "He’s a creative guy."

    Right. As an op-edster he's kind of embarrassingly on the nose. He's not a particularly sophisticated intellectual. But his punditry is pretty revealing of how an awful lot of important people feel because, as a gifted novelist, he's in touch with feelings.
    , @syonredux

    I met Michael Chabon once, around 2011. He had worked on the script for the then forthcoming John Carter of Mars movie and I was a big fan of Burroughs’s Martin novels, so we talked Barsoom. Unfortunately, the movie was basically a failure.
     
    Yeah, it was a box office disaster....but the film itself was actually pretty good.
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  33. Moshe says:

    Guy’s an ass but from what I see around me, plenty of independent-minded fairly informed people really believe in the whole nazi thing and really believe that Trump was saying that some of them are “good people”.

    Also, from a personal point of view, I’m obviously somewhat informed and I trusted Trump when he said that there were plenty of non white supremacists there but it was something I had not priorly been aware of. I can imagine that if I personally was not aware of it but know enough to trust that Trump didn’t make it out of whole cloth, then others, less informed, would have no reason to believe whatsoever that there were non Nazis involved on the right.

    My impression has been that Richard Spencer and his people organized this unite the right thing for all sorts of extreme right groups, including all kinds of fractured white nationalist groups. For the record, personally I don’t particularly have much issue with white nationalist to want to carve out a place in America where they can make their own rules and only accept who they want to accept, but I perfectly understand that to most people this sounds a lot like the Nazi program. and if they have the same perception that I had before I heard Trump speak, that this rally was basically run by the extreme right-wing, represented by someone like Spencer, then it wouldn’t surprise me that people would think that Trump was cool about Nazis, even if things like having a Jewish daughter didn’t quite makes sense.

    So, yeah, I don’t know who this guy is and I doubt I’ve ever read anything by him, but overall, I know that I’m getting a lot of shit for standing up and supporting that press conference at Trump gave and I’m getting it from people who are otherwise very rational and pretty accurate on stuff. They, as well as a large part of the country including those who voted for Trump, are frightened by images of marching Nazis and are wondering why Trump said that some of them are good people.

    We can all talk to each other but how ridiculous that is but that won’t do a damn good thing to educate the country. Trump having some kind of plan and his allowing charismatic people to get out there with videos and powerpoints would do some good. But I don’t think he has a plan, or even particularly cares to have one unless he thinks he needs it for his own benefit, and I’m pretty sure that he would never allow anybody even remotely charismatic to steal his thunder.

    And with the media and the business community and the entrenched bureaucracy and the school system and Silicon Valley all supporting each other on one end of the narrative I’m not sure that much can be done.

    Then again, I personally am optimistic about this. I haven’t really given the home Nazi confusion much thought yet but overall, I truly hope that no “progress” is made against the sjw and their beliefs. I know of course at some has been made lately but hopefully this whole recent snafu will undo it. I’m not trying to save the world. I’m just here to have fun. And unless I see a large and very clear and distinct reason why I should care if the common person thinks that blacks are the same smart as Jews, I am quite happy for the common person to believe that. Obviously that would change if there were some clear and present purpose for why I wanted people to get their facts straight but so long as all of the explanations are roundabout, boring and off in the future, I prefer to be in the society we’re all of the morons, who are always with us, believe the same stupid things that they have been believing and shouting about for a while. It’s calming and comforting like the sound of rainfall.

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    Why doesn't this site have a 'concern troll' button?
    , @utu
    I don’t think he has a plan

    In 1938 Prague during the Munich crisis there was a joke about President Edward Benes : Does he has a plan? Yes, he has an aeroplan(e).
    , @Opinionator
    Guy’s an ass but from what I see around me, plenty of independent-minded fairly informed people really believe in the whole nazi thing and really believe that Trump was saying that some of them are “good people”.

    What was Trump saying?
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  34. @Anonymous
    Well that didn't work.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHtHBLWWAAAlZy_.jpg

    It’s interesting which prominent advisors haven’t been pushed out of the Trump administration or even questioned.

    Gary Cohn
    Dina Powell
    Steve Mnuchin

    What do all three have in common?

    They all worked at Goldman Sachs in very senior positions.

    Dina Powell started off her professional career by working in politics. Later, despite having no non-political experience, Goldman Sachs hired her and made her a partner. Which is a bit odd, as a non-finance background almost always is a disqualification from working on Wall Street. Becoming a Goldman partner with no financial experience is like a paralegal becoming the Chief of Surgery. Very strange.

    See below.

    Powell joined Goldman Sachs in 2007 as a managing director[5] and was named partner in 2010,[7] thus achieving one of the most highly sought-after prizes in American finance.[31] Powell has conceded that she joined Goldman Sachs despite having no background in the subject of finance, but has said that her entire career has been guided by the notion of not planning a lot but rather “just taking that leap of faith.”[19]

    She married Richard C. Powell on January 10, 1998. A man who works in public relations, he became a managing director of the Washington-based Quinn Gillespie & Associates[15] and now is employed by Teneo as the president of Teneo Strategy.[21] Teneo is a firm founded by associates of the Clintons.[22]

    Mnuchin was Goldman’s Chief Information Officer and Cohn was the Goldman Chief Operating Officer.

    Goldman Sachs is the permanent government.

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    JohnnyWalker123:

    In the presidential campaign I was suspicious of Ted Cruz because his wife was a Goldman Sachs apparatchik.

    I never would have believed that the Trump presidency would turn out to be a veritable rogues gallery of GS alumni.

    Live and learn!
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Steve Bannon is a Goldman alumnus as well (although he left as a VP, which, if I remember correctly from my very brief temp gig there, is like 2 levels below managing director, which was analogous to the old "partner" level. As someone there explained it, if you make managing director, you basically work 5 more years at that level and you're set for life. And they want you to move on anyway, unless you're going to be a senior executive).

    As for Goldman hiring people with government experience, Dina Powell is small ball compared to what they've done in Europe, where they hired the former prime minister of Portugal and former European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso.
    , @BaruchKogan
    Mnuchin is also a Skull and Bones guy. His name is in Prof. Sutton's book on the club, appears in the back in the register of members for, I think, 1983.
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  35. “Instead of viewing themselves as beleaguered victims, they should admit that they now comprise an elite within America—and that they should apply to themselves an updated version of the old cavalier concept of noblesse oblige.”

    Of course, the last time the Jews collectively attempted to remind national leaders “Hey, since you kinda owe us, we’re gonna help you out and help the nation as well”, they were expelled. By Edward I in 1290 from England, and from France by Philip the Fair ca.1300. And as others have stated, Jews tend to have long memories of their perpetual victimhood.

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  36. @Percy Gryce
    I met Michael Chabon once, around 2011. He had worked on the script for the then forthcoming John Carter of Mars movie and I was a big fan of Burroughs's Martin novels, so we talked Barsoom. Unfortunately, the movie was basically a failure.

    I've read several of his novels. He's a creative guy. Unfortunately, this exercise in ultra virtue signalling is not his best work.

    “He’s a creative guy.”

    Right. As an op-edster he’s kind of embarrassingly on the nose. He’s not a particularly sophisticated intellectual. But his punditry is pretty revealing of how an awful lot of important people feel because, as a gifted novelist, he’s in touch with feelings.

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    It seems more actor-like than novelist-like.

    https://twitter.com/MarkRuffalo/status/899384950981525505
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  37. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Anon
    When Chabon first emerged as a writer, he was treated like the greatest thing since sliced bread, and he's been given ridiculous levels of praise ever since. This annoyed me, but only mildly, because every time I start to get up a head of steam about him, I remember he married Ayelet Waldman. Holy Moses, was that ever a masochistic thing to do.

    Waldman has the personality of Courtney Love and the appearence of the Wicked Witch of the West. She's turning into a sharp-nosed crone these days. She's written books about how she can't stand children or raising them (she has 4), written a book about how she's been treating her menopause with daily LSD, and made remarks about how her darling hubbie gave her venereal disease and cancerous lesions, etc., etc. I have no idea how he can keep from being driven crazy by her.

    There have been remarks that Chabon married her as a beard, because back in the 1980s when he first emerged, if you were a gay writer or wrote gay characters, you ended up in the gay lit ghetto, and you wouldn't sell well enough to support an opulant lifestyle, and Chabon wanted that lifestyle. As a 'straight' writer with an occasional gay character, he was safely mainstream and could be bought by the masses. Hence, he needed a beard.

    Deep down, I suspect the female Jewish side of Chabon really wanted to be married to a neurotic, cranky, fussy, whiny, dictatorial, hovering, always-obsessed-with-his-spouse Jewish old man, and the closest thing he could find was Ayelet Waldman.

    I hadn’t heard the beard theory before, but he does seem to have a big focus on gayness. IIRC, he said people thought he was gay after writing The Mysteries of Pittsburgh (I saw it on TV — not great, though I read the two novels Steve mentioned and agree with his assessment of them).

    Re the LSD: apparently that’s pretty common now in Silicon Valley, if Hannah Kuchler is to be believed.

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    LSD micro-dosing is a big thing among a lot of people these days. It's chief attraction is that it lets you brag about being high status enough that you can talk openly about doing drugs every day without fear of being arrested or losing your job.
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  38. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Jeez, Jews can’t catch break anywhere. Scary anti-immigrants in America, scary jihadi immigrants in Europe. It’s almost like none of this would be happening if some special people didn’t keep hypocritically pushing the Zeroth Amendment on all of the West.

    Introspection? Vhat ees dat you say?

    https://twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/899060324443201536

    https://twitter.com/Alba_Rising/status/899002430502916097

    I will give Benjamin Netanyahu and his son credit for not totally jumping on the Charlottesville outrage bandwagon. Hawkish Zionists with any brains realize that ostentatiously slamming White Nationalism means that Jewish Nationalism—the raison d’être of Israel itself—has no defense.

    P.S., Ayelet Waldman guest posting on Ta-Nehisi Coates’s erstwhile blog in 2010:

    Last spring the US Census Bureau released figures estimating that the state of Maine is 95.3 percent white. It is, in fact, the whitest state in the country, just edging out Vermont and West Virginia for that dubious distinction.
     

    Moving to Israel to avoid terrorism doesn’t make much sense, on the face of it.

    Moving to Israel makes more sense as a way of escaping a hostile state (as the Jewish girlfriend character in Houellebecq’s Submission does).

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  39. utu says:

    owing in part to their higher average cognitive functioning

    The concept of noblesse oblige might be pretty foreign to the other part they are owing their success to.

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  40. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Percy Gryce
    There seems to be real willful ignorance around this "Jews will not replace us" meme. It's clear that no one thinks Jewish numbers are large enough to replace anyone. Rather, the argument goes, that Jews are the instigators of policies--unfettered immigration among others--that tend to displace the native-born population.

    I assume that this meme is not accurately reported on because to do so would be to raise uncomfortable questions.

    Someone posted a photo on Twitter of a woman holding a sign referring to her “wide, childbearing Jewish hips” re: replacement. I’m not sure her ignorance is willful. My guess is she is just ignorant, both about Jewish fertility numbers, and the immigration complaint. She probably assumes it was ever thus re: mass immigration.

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  41. Dan Hayes says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    It's interesting which prominent advisors haven't been pushed out of the Trump administration or even questioned.

    Gary Cohn
    Dina Powell
    Steve Mnuchin

    What do all three have in common?

    They all worked at Goldman Sachs in very senior positions.

    Dina Powell started off her professional career by working in politics. Later, despite having no non-political experience, Goldman Sachs hired her and made her a partner. Which is a bit odd, as a non-finance background almost always is a disqualification from working on Wall Street. Becoming a Goldman partner with no financial experience is like a paralegal becoming the Chief of Surgery. Very strange.

    See below.

    Powell joined Goldman Sachs in 2007 as a managing director[5] and was named partner in 2010,[7] thus achieving one of the most highly sought-after prizes in American finance.[31] Powell has conceded that she joined Goldman Sachs despite having no background in the subject of finance, but has said that her entire career has been guided by the notion of not planning a lot but rather "just taking that leap of faith."[19]
     

    She married Richard C. Powell on January 10, 1998. A man who works in public relations, he became a managing director of the Washington-based Quinn Gillespie & Associates[15] and now is employed by Teneo as the president of Teneo Strategy.[21] Teneo is a firm founded by associates of the Clintons.[22]
     
    Mnuchin was Goldman's Chief Information Officer and Cohn was the Goldman Chief Operating Officer.

    Goldman Sachs is the permanent government.

    JohnnyWalker123:

    In the presidential campaign I was suspicious of Ted Cruz because his wife was a Goldman Sachs apparatchik.

    I never would have believed that the Trump presidency would turn out to be a veritable rogues gallery of GS alumni.

    Live and learn!

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    I'd prefer if it weren't, for ideological reasons, but it's not surprising that you get a lot of Goldman alumni in government. If you can make it there, it's a good way to make a bundle and then move on to another career while you're still relatively young.
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  42. @Moshe
    Guy's an ass but from what I see around me, plenty of independent-minded fairly informed people really believe in the whole nazi thing and really believe that Trump was saying that some of them are "good people".

    Also, from a personal point of view, I'm obviously somewhat informed and I trusted Trump when he said that there were plenty of non white supremacists there but it was something I had not priorly been aware of. I can imagine that if I personally was not aware of it but know enough to trust that Trump didn't make it out of whole cloth, then others, less informed, would have no reason to believe whatsoever that there were non Nazis involved on the right.

    My impression has been that Richard Spencer and his people organized this unite the right thing for all sorts of extreme right groups, including all kinds of fractured white nationalist groups. For the record, personally I don't particularly have much issue with white nationalist to want to carve out a place in America where they can make their own rules and only accept who they want to accept, but I perfectly understand that to most people this sounds a lot like the Nazi program. and if they have the same perception that I had before I heard Trump speak, that this rally was basically run by the extreme right-wing, represented by someone like Spencer, then it wouldn't surprise me that people would think that Trump was cool about Nazis, even if things like having a Jewish daughter didn't quite makes sense.

    So, yeah, I don't know who this guy is and I doubt I've ever read anything by him, but overall, I know that I'm getting a lot of shit for standing up and supporting that press conference at Trump gave and I'm getting it from people who are otherwise very rational and pretty accurate on stuff. They, as well as a large part of the country including those who voted for Trump, are frightened by images of marching Nazis and are wondering why Trump said that some of them are good people.

    We can all talk to each other but how ridiculous that is but that won't do a damn good thing to educate the country. Trump having some kind of plan and his allowing charismatic people to get out there with videos and powerpoints would do some good. But I don't think he has a plan, or even particularly cares to have one unless he thinks he needs it for his own benefit, and I'm pretty sure that he would never allow anybody even remotely charismatic to steal his thunder.

    And with the media and the business community and the entrenched bureaucracy and the school system and Silicon Valley all supporting each other on one end of the narrative I'm not sure that much can be done.

    Then again, I personally am optimistic about this. I haven't really given the home Nazi confusion much thought yet but overall, I truly hope that no "progress" is made against the sjw and their beliefs. I know of course at some has been made lately but hopefully this whole recent snafu will undo it. I'm not trying to save the world. I'm just here to have fun. And unless I see a large and very clear and distinct reason why I should care if the common person thinks that blacks are the same smart as Jews, I am quite happy for the common person to believe that. Obviously that would change if there were some clear and present purpose for why I wanted people to get their facts straight but so long as all of the explanations are roundabout, boring and off in the future, I prefer to be in the society we're all of the morons, who are always with us, believe the same stupid things that they have been believing and shouting about for a while. It's calming and comforting like the sound of rainfall.

    Why doesn’t this site have a ‘concern troll’ button?

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  43. eah says:

    Now he’s coming after you.

    Another rather alarmist ‘Fellow White’.

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    Fellow White Person is a great account.

    It would be a funny parody until you realize the sheer volume of unrelenting actual anti-white hate speech by MSM and academic “whites” who don’t even bother to hide their names and often ghoulish faces.

    P.S., Art Garfunkel as the profile pic is hilarious.
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  44. utu says:
    @Moshe
    Guy's an ass but from what I see around me, plenty of independent-minded fairly informed people really believe in the whole nazi thing and really believe that Trump was saying that some of them are "good people".

    Also, from a personal point of view, I'm obviously somewhat informed and I trusted Trump when he said that there were plenty of non white supremacists there but it was something I had not priorly been aware of. I can imagine that if I personally was not aware of it but know enough to trust that Trump didn't make it out of whole cloth, then others, less informed, would have no reason to believe whatsoever that there were non Nazis involved on the right.

    My impression has been that Richard Spencer and his people organized this unite the right thing for all sorts of extreme right groups, including all kinds of fractured white nationalist groups. For the record, personally I don't particularly have much issue with white nationalist to want to carve out a place in America where they can make their own rules and only accept who they want to accept, but I perfectly understand that to most people this sounds a lot like the Nazi program. and if they have the same perception that I had before I heard Trump speak, that this rally was basically run by the extreme right-wing, represented by someone like Spencer, then it wouldn't surprise me that people would think that Trump was cool about Nazis, even if things like having a Jewish daughter didn't quite makes sense.

    So, yeah, I don't know who this guy is and I doubt I've ever read anything by him, but overall, I know that I'm getting a lot of shit for standing up and supporting that press conference at Trump gave and I'm getting it from people who are otherwise very rational and pretty accurate on stuff. They, as well as a large part of the country including those who voted for Trump, are frightened by images of marching Nazis and are wondering why Trump said that some of them are good people.

    We can all talk to each other but how ridiculous that is but that won't do a damn good thing to educate the country. Trump having some kind of plan and his allowing charismatic people to get out there with videos and powerpoints would do some good. But I don't think he has a plan, or even particularly cares to have one unless he thinks he needs it for his own benefit, and I'm pretty sure that he would never allow anybody even remotely charismatic to steal his thunder.

    And with the media and the business community and the entrenched bureaucracy and the school system and Silicon Valley all supporting each other on one end of the narrative I'm not sure that much can be done.

    Then again, I personally am optimistic about this. I haven't really given the home Nazi confusion much thought yet but overall, I truly hope that no "progress" is made against the sjw and their beliefs. I know of course at some has been made lately but hopefully this whole recent snafu will undo it. I'm not trying to save the world. I'm just here to have fun. And unless I see a large and very clear and distinct reason why I should care if the common person thinks that blacks are the same smart as Jews, I am quite happy for the common person to believe that. Obviously that would change if there were some clear and present purpose for why I wanted people to get their facts straight but so long as all of the explanations are roundabout, boring and off in the future, I prefer to be in the society we're all of the morons, who are always with us, believe the same stupid things that they have been believing and shouting about for a while. It's calming and comforting like the sound of rainfall.

    I don’t think he has a plan

    In 1938 Prague during the Munich crisis there was a joke about President Edward Benes : Does he has a plan? Yes, he has an aeroplan(e).

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  45. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @JohnnyWalker123
    It's interesting which prominent advisors haven't been pushed out of the Trump administration or even questioned.

    Gary Cohn
    Dina Powell
    Steve Mnuchin

    What do all three have in common?

    They all worked at Goldman Sachs in very senior positions.

    Dina Powell started off her professional career by working in politics. Later, despite having no non-political experience, Goldman Sachs hired her and made her a partner. Which is a bit odd, as a non-finance background almost always is a disqualification from working on Wall Street. Becoming a Goldman partner with no financial experience is like a paralegal becoming the Chief of Surgery. Very strange.

    See below.

    Powell joined Goldman Sachs in 2007 as a managing director[5] and was named partner in 2010,[7] thus achieving one of the most highly sought-after prizes in American finance.[31] Powell has conceded that she joined Goldman Sachs despite having no background in the subject of finance, but has said that her entire career has been guided by the notion of not planning a lot but rather "just taking that leap of faith."[19]
     

    She married Richard C. Powell on January 10, 1998. A man who works in public relations, he became a managing director of the Washington-based Quinn Gillespie & Associates[15] and now is employed by Teneo as the president of Teneo Strategy.[21] Teneo is a firm founded by associates of the Clintons.[22]
     
    Mnuchin was Goldman's Chief Information Officer and Cohn was the Goldman Chief Operating Officer.

    Goldman Sachs is the permanent government.

    Steve Bannon is a Goldman alumnus as well (although he left as a VP, which, if I remember correctly from my very brief temp gig there, is like 2 levels below managing director, which was analogous to the old “partner” level. As someone there explained it, if you make managing director, you basically work 5 more years at that level and you’re set for life. And they want you to move on anyway, unless you’re going to be a senior executive).

    As for Goldman hiring people with government experience, Dina Powell is small ball compared to what they’ve done in Europe, where they hired the former prime minister of Portugal and former European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso.

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    Steve Bannon is a Goldman alumnus as well - But it either did not affect him or he transcended this experience.

    He was proposing tax increase on high incomes I just heard about it from Ann Coulter interview where she is really pissed off with Trump:

    “If Trump wants to prove that he didn’t get the good ideas from Bannon, then it better be pedal-to-the-metal on deportations, the Wall, that tax hike on people who make more than $5 million a year, which I understand was Bannon’s idea but perhaps I was wrong. If that was Trump’s idea, then let’s have it!... Did you hear that on Wall Street, they were cheering today?”
     
    Bannon in his interview during conference at Vatican (2014) he spoke about capitalism and he did not sound as any contemporary american politico (which was very refreshing) and certainly not like a man who works for The Bank.
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/this-is-how-steve-bannon-sees-the-entire-world?utm_term=.bhRQM1Vwnx#.qvDDBX6pd1
    , @utu
    former European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso

    Interesting career path for a Maoist
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAHv3UnXvmM

    Barroso's political activity began in his late teens, during the Estado Novo regime in Portugal, before the Carnation Revolution of 25 April 1974. In his university days, he was one of the leaders of the underground Maoist MRPP (Reorganising Movement of the Proletariat Party, later PCTP/MRPP, Communist Party of the Portuguese Workers/Revolutionary Movement of the Portuguese Proletariat).
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    @Steve Sailer
    "He’s a creative guy."

    Right. As an op-edster he's kind of embarrassingly on the nose. He's not a particularly sophisticated intellectual. But his punditry is pretty revealing of how an awful lot of important people feel because, as a gifted novelist, he's in touch with feelings.

    It seems more actor-like than novelist-like.

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  47. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Sarah Silverman extended an olive branch to white nationalists on Twitter, offering them a seat at the table with her.

    She ought to actually invite a few for dinner and film it, Dinner For Five-style.

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    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHuhCAeUAAAXafs.jpg
    , @eah
    Let us know when she writes a similar letter to those people -- Jews being prominent among them -- preaching to us -- and worse to our children -- about 'institutional racism', 'white privilege', 'toxic whiteness', etc etc, where she tells them to basically shut the fuck up.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    I would pay $99.95 to watch a live hour-long pay-per-view intimate ‘dinner date’ between Silverman and Richard Spencer. No gimmicks, no costumes, just “real talk” and possibly some mirth and humor.

    Wouldn’t ever happen, though—it would be ‘normalizing’ Nazism 2.0.

    , @Anonym
    Sarah Silverman extended an olive branch to white nationalists on Twitter, offering them a seat at the table with her.

    As far as seats go, these seats are back of the bus, or non-voting B stock. She is saying that you as goyim and me can talk, provided that you agree to accept the status quo. Don't worry, you won't have to go back to the old country. It's probably for the best because you won't recognise it for the poz, oh sorry, I mean, the enrichment by our misfit toys.

    We have a home for you, it's here in the ground, after a long satisfying life of debt and taxation slavery and diversity training seminars. And some edutainment propaganda I'll gladly sell you.

    As for your kids, if you manage to afford any, I'll sell them the bullets to fight in the looming civil war I've helped create for you both. I'm nice like that. Tikkun Olam and Goy, Bye!
    , @anon
    Does anyone who still has Twitter want to say that they'd be happy to take her up on the offer, under the condition that minorities can never talk about racism or bring up slavery or the Holocaust ever again? Because otherwise, the promise of "love and acceptance" seems a little hollow.

    I find the basic premise, that white nationalists must really want to hang out with Sarah Silverman, and their chief complaint is that, at the present time, they can't, to be pretty hilarious.

    Partially simply because, even if it really was true, and they did agree to stop being white nationalists, they still wouldn't really get to hang out with her. But mostly because Sarah Silverman appears to be aging very, very rapidly, and is seemingly unaware of the fact that few guys are really interested in banging her anymore.

    It's going to be pretty funny to watch as that awarenesss sinks in.
    , @Anonym
    After pondering this some more, in PR terms this is a non-invitation invitation.
    , @Clyde
    Sarah Silverman is pretty tough. I can tell by her thick hair that starts out low on forehead. She has a good physicality combined with high J- IQ. I have a sneaking suspicion she is bi as in bi-polar and this is what messed up her life as far as normality with husband and three children. She became a freelancer comedian which is tougher for the women

    Her lefty rabbi sister---
    Susan lives in Jerusalem, Israel and has five children, two of whom were adopted from Africa. (lulz) [6] Susan and her daughter Hallel Abramowitz are members of Women of the Wall, and in 2012, they were arrested for wearing prayer shawls at the Western Wall.[2][3] News of this went viral after Sarah Silverman tweeted her support.[1]
    _wikipedia_

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  48. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Dan Hayes
    JohnnyWalker123:

    In the presidential campaign I was suspicious of Ted Cruz because his wife was a Goldman Sachs apparatchik.

    I never would have believed that the Trump presidency would turn out to be a veritable rogues gallery of GS alumni.

    Live and learn!

    I’d prefer if it weren’t, for ideological reasons, but it’s not surprising that you get a lot of Goldman alumni in government. If you can make it there, it’s a good way to make a bundle and then move on to another career while you’re still relatively young.

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    Thanks for your comments but the problem is that you may depart Goldman but Goldman never departs you!
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  49. RudyM says:

    Charlottesville is looking to me like another psy op. That sort of thing doesn’t really get discussed much in Sailerworld, but thank goodness there are some other kooks around on unz.com who are conspiracy aware. More “searing events.”

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  50. utu says:

    other kooks around on unz.com who are conspiracy aware

    Not really. There were several articles about Charlottesville at unz.com but no discussion about the psyop angle. If it was it was pretty successful. The main part of it was the car attack.

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  51. utu says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Steve Bannon is a Goldman alumnus as well (although he left as a VP, which, if I remember correctly from my very brief temp gig there, is like 2 levels below managing director, which was analogous to the old "partner" level. As someone there explained it, if you make managing director, you basically work 5 more years at that level and you're set for life. And they want you to move on anyway, unless you're going to be a senior executive).

    As for Goldman hiring people with government experience, Dina Powell is small ball compared to what they've done in Europe, where they hired the former prime minister of Portugal and former European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso.

    Steve Bannon is a Goldman alumnus as well – But it either did not affect him or he transcended this experience.

    He was proposing tax increase on high incomes I just heard about it from Ann Coulter interview where she is really pissed off with Trump:

    “If Trump wants to prove that he didn’t get the good ideas from Bannon, then it better be pedal-to-the-metal on deportations, the Wall, that tax hike on people who make more than $5 million a year, which I understand was Bannon’s idea but perhaps I was wrong. If that was Trump’s idea, then let’s have it!… Did you hear that on Wall Street, they were cheering today?”

    Bannon in his interview during conference at Vatican (2014) he spoke about capitalism and he did not sound as any contemporary american politico (which was very refreshing) and certainly not like a man who works for The Bank.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/this-is-how-steve-bannon-sees-the-entire-world?utm_term=.bhRQM1Vwnx#.qvDDBX6pd1

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    Ann's right. Whether Trump will listen to her is another question.

    One point the FT made over the weekend was that although a lot of Trump's proposals on infrastructure and the rest have fizzled, Wall Street has been a big winner because a lot of what's been done for them this year didn't require legislation. Some of it was just scrapping regulations Obama had proposed but not implemented yet, and some of it was getting light touches on the regulatory agencies.
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  52. utu says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Steve Bannon is a Goldman alumnus as well (although he left as a VP, which, if I remember correctly from my very brief temp gig there, is like 2 levels below managing director, which was analogous to the old "partner" level. As someone there explained it, if you make managing director, you basically work 5 more years at that level and you're set for life. And they want you to move on anyway, unless you're going to be a senior executive).

    As for Goldman hiring people with government experience, Dina Powell is small ball compared to what they've done in Europe, where they hired the former prime minister of Portugal and former European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso.

    former European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso

    Interesting career path for a Maoist

    Barroso’s political activity began in his late teens, during the Estado Novo regime in Portugal, before the Carnation Revolution of 25 April 1974. In his university days, he was one of the leaders of the underground Maoist MRPP (Reorganising Movement of the Proletariat Party, later PCTP/MRPP, Communist Party of the Portuguese Workers/Revolutionary Movement of the Portuguese Proletariat).

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    Indeed.
    , @Stebbing Heuer
    Au contraire.

    Wearing the fashionable intellectual clothing of the day is one way of climbing your way to the top.

    Marxism one day, crony capitalism the next. And each day climbing a little higher on the greasy pole.

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  53. eah says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Sarah Silverman extended an olive branch to white nationalists on Twitter, offering them a seat at the table with her.

    She ought to actually invite a few for dinner and film it, Dinner For Five-style.

    https://twitter.com/SarahKSilverman/status/899133516289417216

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  54. MEH 0910 says:
    @Anon
    When Chabon first emerged as a writer, he was treated like the greatest thing since sliced bread, and he's been given ridiculous levels of praise ever since. This annoyed me, but only mildly, because every time I start to get up a head of steam about him, I remember he married Ayelet Waldman. Holy Moses, was that ever a masochistic thing to do.

    Waldman has the personality of Courtney Love and the appearence of the Wicked Witch of the West. She's turning into a sharp-nosed crone these days. She's written books about how she can't stand children or raising them (she has 4), written a book about how she's been treating her menopause with daily LSD, and made remarks about how her darling hubbie gave her venereal disease and cancerous lesions, etc., etc. I have no idea how he can keep from being driven crazy by her.

    There have been remarks that Chabon married her as a beard, because back in the 1980s when he first emerged, if you were a gay writer or wrote gay characters, you ended up in the gay lit ghetto, and you wouldn't sell well enough to support an opulant lifestyle, and Chabon wanted that lifestyle. As a 'straight' writer with an occasional gay character, he was safely mainstream and could be bought by the masses. Hence, he needed a beard.

    Deep down, I suspect the female Jewish side of Chabon really wanted to be married to a neurotic, cranky, fussy, whiny, dictatorial, hovering, always-obsessed-with-his-spouse Jewish old man, and the closest thing he could find was Ayelet Waldman.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayelet_Waldman#Blogs

    For a short time in 2004 and 2005, Waldman wrote a blog under the title “Bad Mother.”[71] Her topics included sexuality, gay rights, motherhood, and her bipolar disorder.

    Hoo boy.

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  55. Dan Hayes says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    I'd prefer if it weren't, for ideological reasons, but it's not surprising that you get a lot of Goldman alumni in government. If you can make it there, it's a good way to make a bundle and then move on to another career while you're still relatively young.

    Dave Pinsen:

    Thanks for your comments but the problem is that you may depart Goldman but Goldman never departs you!

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    I think it's safe to say Goldman has departed Steve Bannon.
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  56. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Hey, Steve, have you noticed this mental patient who keeps salting threads with disembodied one-line questions. Is it a bot? Or an adult autistic.

    Opinionator says:
    August 21, 2017 at 3:29 am GMT

    Was that apocryphal?

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  57. @eah
    Now he’s coming after you.

    Another rather alarmist 'Fellow White'.

    https://twitter.com/FellowWhites/status/898822327600861186

    Fellow White Person is a great account.

    It would be a funny parody until you realize the sheer volume of unrelenting actual anti-white hate speech by MSM and academic “whites” who don’t even bother to hide their names and often ghoulish faces.

    P.S., Art Garfunkel as the profile pic is hilarious.

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  58. Lot says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    Well isn't this ironic. Congress is about to make it illegal to boycott Israel, but Jews make it mandatory to boycott Trump. Hopefully this will prompt a few JQ-averse normies to take a second look at things. The cycle of Jewish overreach is again playing out before our very eyes.

    “The cycle of Jewish overreach is again playing out before our very eyes.”

    Got any evidence? Seems to me the most popular man for left wing Americans is Bernie and on the right is Bibi. His speech before Congress was interrupted by applause like twice per sentence.

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    Uh...that would be the evidence.
    , @utu
    Lot, you are so naive. Do you think they really meant the applauding they gave to Netanyahu? With every clap of their hands they were thinking of revenge for having to go through the humiliation and indignity.
    , @Hunsdon
    There was a very Stalin-esque "I'm not going to be the first to stop clapping" vibe to it.
    , @Stebbing Heuer
    The foregoing three comments tell you everything you need to know.

    The Zionists own every member of Congress, lock, stock and barrel.

    The great third rail of the 21st century. The greatest story of the age, that no investigative journalist will go anywhere near.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Seems to me the most popular man for left wing Americans is Bernie and on the right is Bibi. His speech before Congress was interrupted by applause like twice per sentence.
     
    "People's" Deputies in the Soviet Union gave it up, and in a big way, for Stalin too. And for similar reasons.

    But - sure - if you want us to pretend it isn't strange for Congress to show greater deference to a foreign head of state than to our own President, and that it doesn't betoken the large-scale ownership of said Congress by a foreign lobby.............................. okay. We can pretend that's the case, for your benefit.
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  59. eah says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Sarah Silverman extended an olive branch to white nationalists on Twitter, offering them a seat at the table with her.

    She ought to actually invite a few for dinner and film it, Dinner For Five-style.

    https://twitter.com/SarahKSilverman/status/899133516289417216

    Let us know when she writes a similar letter to those people — Jews being prominent among them — preaching to us — and worse to our children — about ‘institutional racism’, ‘white privilege’, ‘toxic whiteness’, etc etc, where she tells them to basically shut the fuck up.

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    (((Howard Schultz)))

    https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/899446565298896897
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  60. syonredux says:
    @Percy Gryce
    I met Michael Chabon once, around 2011. He had worked on the script for the then forthcoming John Carter of Mars movie and I was a big fan of Burroughs's Martin novels, so we talked Barsoom. Unfortunately, the movie was basically a failure.

    I've read several of his novels. He's a creative guy. Unfortunately, this exercise in ultra virtue signalling is not his best work.

    I met Michael Chabon once, around 2011. He had worked on the script for the then forthcoming John Carter of Mars movie and I was a big fan of Burroughs’s Martin novels, so we talked Barsoom. Unfortunately, the movie was basically a failure.

    Yeah, it was a box office disaster….but the film itself was actually pretty good.

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  61. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    pic.twitter.com/hO0e2tPCNa

    — Sarah Silverman (@SarahKSilverman) August 20, 2017

    Silverman asks whites to “shed their ideology of hate”…

    Netanyahu: “My people really know how to hate.”

    What is continual mass immigration but a form of hatred toward the natives?

    Mass immigration at a level to make Jews a minority in Israel would be denounced as antisemitic hatred.

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  62. @Dave Pinsen
    Sarah Silverman extended an olive branch to white nationalists on Twitter, offering them a seat at the table with her.

    She ought to actually invite a few for dinner and film it, Dinner For Five-style.

    https://twitter.com/SarahKSilverman/status/899133516289417216

    I would pay $99.95 to watch a live hour-long pay-per-view intimate ‘dinner date’ between Silverman and Richard Spencer. No gimmicks, no costumes, just “real talk” and possibly some mirth and humor.

    Wouldn’t ever happen, though—it would be ‘normalizing’ Nazism 2.0.

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    His was one of the first names that came to mind. She'd just need 3 more for a Dinner For Five setup. Not sure her BF Mr. Snipes would be cool with the one-on-one dinner date.

    Spencer has gotten plenty of TV time, so it doesn't seem like that much of a stretch. He's careful not to normalize things too much (e.g., heil-gate, Charlottesville).

    I hadn't seen that clip before -- funny stuff. Thanks for sharing.
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  63. @Lot
    "The cycle of Jewish overreach is again playing out before our very eyes."

    Got any evidence? Seems to me the most popular man for left wing Americans is Bernie and on the right is Bibi. His speech before Congress was interrupted by applause like twice per sentence.

    Uh…that would be the evidence.

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  64. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Everyone go read the Sarah Silverman speech. Laughable lack of self-awareness.

    Yankees have never stopped the culture war against the South. Modern era Jews have piled on relentlessly.

    These assholes demand the right to wage war against the South without pushback.

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  65. utu says:
    @Lot
    "The cycle of Jewish overreach is again playing out before our very eyes."

    Got any evidence? Seems to me the most popular man for left wing Americans is Bernie and on the right is Bibi. His speech before Congress was interrupted by applause like twice per sentence.

    Lot, you are so naive. Do you think they really meant the applauding they gave to Netanyahu? With every clap of their hands they were thinking of revenge for having to go through the humiliation and indignity.

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    So the evidence is your unverifiable knowledge of people's mental states.
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  66. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Dan Hayes
    Dave Pinsen:

    Thanks for your comments but the problem is that you may depart Goldman but Goldman never departs you!

    I think it’s safe to say Goldman has departed Steve Bannon.

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  67. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @utu
    Steve Bannon is a Goldman alumnus as well - But it either did not affect him or he transcended this experience.

    He was proposing tax increase on high incomes I just heard about it from Ann Coulter interview where she is really pissed off with Trump:

    “If Trump wants to prove that he didn’t get the good ideas from Bannon, then it better be pedal-to-the-metal on deportations, the Wall, that tax hike on people who make more than $5 million a year, which I understand was Bannon’s idea but perhaps I was wrong. If that was Trump’s idea, then let’s have it!... Did you hear that on Wall Street, they were cheering today?”
     
    Bannon in his interview during conference at Vatican (2014) he spoke about capitalism and he did not sound as any contemporary american politico (which was very refreshing) and certainly not like a man who works for The Bank.
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/this-is-how-steve-bannon-sees-the-entire-world?utm_term=.bhRQM1Vwnx#.qvDDBX6pd1

    Ann’s right. Whether Trump will listen to her is another question.

    One point the FT made over the weekend was that although a lot of Trump’s proposals on infrastructure and the rest have fizzled, Wall Street has been a big winner because a lot of what’s been done for them this year didn’t require legislation. Some of it was just scrapping regulations Obama had proposed but not implemented yet, and some of it was getting light touches on the regulatory agencies.

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  68. Anonym says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Sarah Silverman extended an olive branch to white nationalists on Twitter, offering them a seat at the table with her.

    She ought to actually invite a few for dinner and film it, Dinner For Five-style.

    https://twitter.com/SarahKSilverman/status/899133516289417216

    Sarah Silverman extended an olive branch to white nationalists on Twitter, offering them a seat at the table with her.

    As far as seats go, these seats are back of the bus, or non-voting B stock. She is saying that you as goyim and me can talk, provided that you agree to accept the status quo. Don’t worry, you won’t have to go back to the old country. It’s probably for the best because you won’t recognise it for the poz, oh sorry, I mean, the enrichment by our misfit toys.

    We have a home for you, it’s here in the ground, after a long satisfying life of debt and taxation slavery and diversity training seminars. And some edutainment propaganda I’ll gladly sell you.

    As for your kids, if you manage to afford any, I’ll sell them the bullets to fight in the looming civil war I’ve helped create for you both. I’m nice like that. Tikkun Olam and Goy, Bye!

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  69. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @utu
    former European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso

    Interesting career path for a Maoist
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAHv3UnXvmM

    Barroso's political activity began in his late teens, during the Estado Novo regime in Portugal, before the Carnation Revolution of 25 April 1974. In his university days, he was one of the leaders of the underground Maoist MRPP (Reorganising Movement of the Proletariat Party, later PCTP/MRPP, Communist Party of the Portuguese Workers/Revolutionary Movement of the Portuguese Proletariat).

    Indeed.

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  70. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Jenner Ickham Errican
    I would pay $99.95 to watch a live hour-long pay-per-view intimate ‘dinner date’ between Silverman and Richard Spencer. No gimmicks, no costumes, just “real talk” and possibly some mirth and humor.

    Wouldn’t ever happen, though—it would be ‘normalizing’ Nazism 2.0.

    His was one of the first names that came to mind. She’d just need 3 more for a Dinner For Five setup. Not sure her BF Mr. Snipes would be cool with the one-on-one dinner date.

    Spencer has gotten plenty of TV time, so it doesn’t seem like that much of a stretch. He’s careful not to normalize things too much (e.g., heil-gate, Charlottesville).

    I hadn’t seen that clip before — funny stuff. Thanks for sharing.

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    Re Mr. Snipes:
    https://youtu.be/a69pHYYUyx0
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Not sure her BF Mr. Snipes would be cool with the one-on-one dinner date.
     
    There would be a set crew. He’d be fine with it. :)

    By now Sheen knows old girl has been around. Here he (or is it Giovanni Ribisi) and Silverman hook up for the first time:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHL1AJ0wbck

    Envy-inducing fun fact about Sheen— he was with Kate Beckinsale when she was a fresh-faced ingénue. He had a kid with her but flaked on getting married. WTF.

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  71. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen
    His was one of the first names that came to mind. She'd just need 3 more for a Dinner For Five setup. Not sure her BF Mr. Snipes would be cool with the one-on-one dinner date.

    Spencer has gotten plenty of TV time, so it doesn't seem like that much of a stretch. He's careful not to normalize things too much (e.g., heil-gate, Charlottesville).

    I hadn't seen that clip before -- funny stuff. Thanks for sharing.

    Re Mr. Snipes:

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  72. @Anon
    When Chabon first emerged as a writer, he was treated like the greatest thing since sliced bread, and he's been given ridiculous levels of praise ever since. This annoyed me, but only mildly, because every time I start to get up a head of steam about him, I remember he married Ayelet Waldman. Holy Moses, was that ever a masochistic thing to do.

    Waldman has the personality of Courtney Love and the appearence of the Wicked Witch of the West. She's turning into a sharp-nosed crone these days. She's written books about how she can't stand children or raising them (she has 4), written a book about how she's been treating her menopause with daily LSD, and made remarks about how her darling hubbie gave her venereal disease and cancerous lesions, etc., etc. I have no idea how he can keep from being driven crazy by her.

    There have been remarks that Chabon married her as a beard, because back in the 1980s when he first emerged, if you were a gay writer or wrote gay characters, you ended up in the gay lit ghetto, and you wouldn't sell well enough to support an opulant lifestyle, and Chabon wanted that lifestyle. As a 'straight' writer with an occasional gay character, he was safely mainstream and could be bought by the masses. Hence, he needed a beard.

    Deep down, I suspect the female Jewish side of Chabon really wanted to be married to a neurotic, cranky, fussy, whiny, dictatorial, hovering, always-obsessed-with-his-spouse Jewish old man, and the closest thing he could find was Ayelet Waldman.

    Waldman ain’t half bad looking for a 53-year-old woman, and in Berkeley she’s way up there. Plus, she gave Chabon four biological children — those are her Israeli family values speaking — which is about four more than he woulda got from an American version of her. Yeah, she’s kinda meshuga otherwise, but he is too so it can be a good match.

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    I noticed this too. After all the double talk and extraneous liberal writing and crapping around she did her duty and did it well. AKA facts on the ground. aka the diff between what they say and what they do
    , @anonymous
    Uh, she's ugly. No crime in that though. She does have the iSteve-ish distinction of graduating from the Harvard Law School in the same class as Barack Hussein Obama II (and that chick from "The Runaways" that nobody really cares about but she claimed she was raped by Kim Fowley).
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  73. eah says:
    @eah
    Let us know when she writes a similar letter to those people -- Jews being prominent among them -- preaching to us -- and worse to our children -- about 'institutional racism', 'white privilege', 'toxic whiteness', etc etc, where she tells them to basically shut the fuck up.

    (((Howard Schultz)))

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    Having taken home $21.8 million in 2016, Schultz, whose net worth is an estimated $3 billion, has long operated under a promise by Starbucks that he'll continue to make at least as much as the company's CEO, even if he doesn't have to do the job anymore. ____ http://tinyurl.com/y7y2vc3n

    These billionaire sjw preachers are annoying.
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    “un-fucking-believable”

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    Thanks.
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  76. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @JohnnyWalker123
    This video is interesting.

    I bet the burly guy in the video (0:08 to 0:11) scared Chabon.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n12sjwk9FBE

    0:34 to 0:38 is worth paying attention to.

    0:34 to 0:38 is worth paying attention to.

    So it appears as though the response to “Jews will not replace us!” is, simultaneously, “How dare you suggest we would do that!” and “Yes we will.”.

    That’s happening so often these days that there should be a term for it.

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  77. @eah
    "un-fucking-believable"

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHtiUAzWAAE1DE8.jpg

    Thanks.

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  78. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Dave Pinsen
    I hadn't heard the beard theory before, but he does seem to have a big focus on gayness. IIRC, he said people thought he was gay after writing The Mysteries of Pittsburgh (I saw it on TV -- not great, though I read the two novels Steve mentioned and agree with his assessment of them).

    Re the LSD: apparently that's pretty common now in Silicon Valley, if Hannah Kuchler is to be believed.
    https://twitter.com/FTLifeArts/status/896823759558107137

    LSD micro-dosing is a big thing among a lot of people these days. It’s chief attraction is that it lets you brag about being high status enough that you can talk openly about doing drugs every day without fear of being arrested or losing your job.

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    LSD might be helpful to some people (it appears to have done a lot for Cary Grant's mood c. 1958), but it's really, really bad for some other people. And, as far as I can tell, there's no way to tell ahead of time which kind of person you will turn out to be. People who promote LSD in 2017, like Ayelet Waldman, tend to be jerks (although we already knew that about her from other evidence).

    I've given Michael Chabon a hard time now and then, but, judging from a few email interchanges with him a decade ago, he's a nice guy. I don't envy the poor bastard.

    , @Anon
    If Waldman worked for an employer, she'd be out of a job for admitting her LSD use. They'd also be taking her kids away from her if she weren't semi-well known.
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  79. @Dave Pinsen
    His was one of the first names that came to mind. She'd just need 3 more for a Dinner For Five setup. Not sure her BF Mr. Snipes would be cool with the one-on-one dinner date.

    Spencer has gotten plenty of TV time, so it doesn't seem like that much of a stretch. He's careful not to normalize things too much (e.g., heil-gate, Charlottesville).

    I hadn't seen that clip before -- funny stuff. Thanks for sharing.

    Not sure her BF Mr. Snipes would be cool with the one-on-one dinner date.

    There would be a set crew. He’d be fine with it. :)

    By now Sheen knows old girl has been around. Here he (or is it Giovanni Ribisi) and Silverman hook up for the first time:

    Envy-inducing fun fact about Sheen— he was with Kate Beckinsale when she was a fresh-faced ingénue. He had a kid with her but flaked on getting married. WTF.

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  80. @anon
    LSD micro-dosing is a big thing among a lot of people these days. It's chief attraction is that it lets you brag about being high status enough that you can talk openly about doing drugs every day without fear of being arrested or losing your job.

    LSD might be helpful to some people (it appears to have done a lot for Cary Grant’s mood c. 1958), but it’s really, really bad for some other people. And, as far as I can tell, there’s no way to tell ahead of time which kind of person you will turn out to be. People who promote LSD in 2017, like Ayelet Waldman, tend to be jerks (although we already knew that about her from other evidence).

    I’ve given Michael Chabon a hard time now and then, but, judging from a few email interchanges with him a decade ago, he’s a nice guy. I don’t envy the poor bastard.

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  81. Gabriel M says:

    I don’t know what your problem is . Michael Chabon is alt right. You can read his great book of essays Kingdom of Olives and Ash: Writers Confront the Occupation (always olives for some reason), which is the kind of searing critique of the Zionists that you can only hear at alternative media organisations like Unz Review and the New York Review of Books.

    But you know who’s really alt right? Turns out it’s Jared Kushner who overruled the Ziocuck Bannon and stopped the embassy being moved to Jerusalem.

    Sources cited by Vanity Fair claimed that while Bannon pushed the embassy issue, it was Kushner who blocked the relocation.

    No fewer than three sources close to the former White House senior strategist also said it was Bannon who pushed for a hardline against the PA, including PA chief Mahmoud Abbas, while Kushner and other White House officials opted for a maintaining a more cordial relationship with the PA leader.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/234238

    But luckily Ziocuck Bannon is out and solid America Firsters are in power achieving the core goal of all White people everywhere: self determination for Palestinians, so all is well.

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    I think your irony was lost on the average isteve reader here. But this account looks right to me as far as Bannon vs Jared on moving US Embassy. Bannon is like this due to being pro-West/anti-Islam while Jared+ Ivanka are lost in the ozone socialites whose focus is on looking really really good.
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  82. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Dave Pinsen
    Sarah Silverman extended an olive branch to white nationalists on Twitter, offering them a seat at the table with her.

    She ought to actually invite a few for dinner and film it, Dinner For Five-style.

    https://twitter.com/SarahKSilverman/status/899133516289417216

    Does anyone who still has Twitter want to say that they’d be happy to take her up on the offer, under the condition that minorities can never talk about racism or bring up slavery or the Holocaust ever again? Because otherwise, the promise of “love and acceptance” seems a little hollow.

    I find the basic premise, that white nationalists must really want to hang out with Sarah Silverman, and their chief complaint is that, at the present time, they can’t, to be pretty hilarious.

    Partially simply because, even if it really was true, and they did agree to stop being white nationalists, they still wouldn’t really get to hang out with her. But mostly because Sarah Silverman appears to be aging very, very rapidly, and is seemingly unaware of the fact that few guys are really interested in banging her anymore.

    It’s going to be pretty funny to watch as that awarenesss sinks in.

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  83. Anonym says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Sarah Silverman extended an olive branch to white nationalists on Twitter, offering them a seat at the table with her.

    She ought to actually invite a few for dinner and film it, Dinner For Five-style.

    https://twitter.com/SarahKSilverman/status/899133516289417216

    After pondering this some more, in PR terms this is a non-invitation invitation.

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  84. Clyde says:
    @International Jew
    Waldman ain't half bad looking for a 53-year-old woman, and in Berkeley she's way up there. Plus, she gave Chabon four biological children — those are her Israeli family values speaking — which is about four more than he woulda got from an American version of her. Yeah, she's kinda meshuga otherwise, but he is too so it can be a good match.

    I noticed this too. After all the double talk and extraneous liberal writing and crapping around she did her duty and did it well. AKA facts on the ground. aka the diff between what they say and what they do

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  85. Clyde says:
    @Gabriel M
    I don't know what your problem is . Michael Chabon is alt right. You can read his great book of essays Kingdom of Olives and Ash: Writers Confront the Occupation (always olives for some reason), which is the kind of searing critique of the Zionists that you can only hear at alternative media organisations like Unz Review and the New York Review of Books.

    But you know who's really alt right? Turns out it's Jared Kushner who overruled the Ziocuck Bannon and stopped the embassy being moved to Jerusalem.


    Sources cited by Vanity Fair claimed that while Bannon pushed the embassy issue, it was Kushner who blocked the relocation.

    No fewer than three sources close to the former White House senior strategist also said it was Bannon who pushed for a hardline against the PA, including PA chief Mahmoud Abbas, while Kushner and other White House officials opted for a maintaining a more cordial relationship with the PA leader.
     
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/234238

    But luckily Ziocuck Bannon is out and solid America Firsters are in power achieving the core goal of all White people everywhere: self determination for Palestinians, so all is well.

    I think your irony was lost on the average isteve reader here. But this account looks right to me as far as Bannon vs Jared on moving US Embassy. Bannon is like this due to being pro-West/anti-Islam while Jared+ Ivanka are lost in the ozone socialites whose focus is on looking really really good.

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  86. Clyde says:
    @eah
    (((Howard Schultz)))

    https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/899446565298896897

    Having taken home $21.8 million in 2016, Schultz, whose net worth is an estimated $3 billion, has long operated under a promise by Starbucks that he’ll continue to make at least as much as the company’s CEO, even if he doesn’t have to do the job anymore. ____ http://tinyurl.com/y7y2vc3n

    These billionaire sjw preachers are annoying.

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  87. BaruchKogan says: • Website

    @Steve, why don’t you point out that 95% of the comments on Chabon’s article (including mine) are from Jews telling him to pound sand, that he does not represent us, Jews in general, or anybody but NPR?

    This is my problem with you on Jews-you notice Jews doing/saying bad things, and not all those Jews (the majority) who disagree with them, privately or publicly. When the Left applies the same treatment to whites, you are justifiably outraged-it’s dishonest.

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    @Steve, why don’t you point out that 95% of the comments on Chabon’s article (including mine) are from Jews telling him to pound sand, that he does not represent us, Jews in general, or anybody but NPR?

    Probably because that's nowhere near the truth. There are a few like that, but the majority definitely agree with him.

    "This is my problem with you on Jews-you notice Jews doing/saying bad things, and not all those Jews (the majority) who disagree with them, privately or publicly. "

    So now you're telling us that the majority of Jews are not anti-Trump? Their admitted voting pattern would seem to dispute that.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    This is my problem with you on Jews-you notice Jews doing/saying bad things, and not all those Jews (the majority) who disagree with them, privately or publicly.
     
    Baruch, you must be joking. A majority of Jews in the U.S. voted against Trump. I don’t doubt that many of the comments on Chabon’s post are sincere and in the vein of “don’t blame Trump for the extremism of others,” but many Jews hate/disdain Trump (and ‘flyover’ whites) and don’t want to publicly identify as a transnational Tribe, lest the general white populace increasingly intuits an ethnically organic (if not necessarily conspiratorial) “Protocols” level of anti-MAGA resistance.

    A lot of the Jewish comments against (not 95% like you said, it’s about 56%*) Chabon and Waldman’s outburst are from BDS-aware Zionist hawks, and many are also likely motivated by real-life sentiment parodied by the mocking alt-right phrase: “DA GOYIM KNOW. SHUT IT DOWN.”

    Under the piece, “AmRusDebate” addressed Chabon and the majority of the commenters:

    What a bunch of putzes. You are a shonda to Yiddishkite …

    If non-Jewish readers (and Jewish) get the impression that Jews are somehow always acting in concert, this is false. This is an Anti-Semitic canard that dumb people like Mr. Chabon, whose Jewishiness we actually know nothing about, propagate either through their inability to assimilate to America, or their senility.
     
    I do have sympathy with the minority of righteous Jews who are understandably against actual Nazis but nonetheless are full MAGA and (implicitly or explicitly) agree that the tide of non-white immigration to the West must be drastically curtailed.

    Unfortunately they are outnumbered by legions of vocal, often blatantly anti-white Jews, like the ones featured on this Twitter page, who have real power in consequential Western institutions. The election of Trump acted as a temporary safety valve in American politics, but Chabon and Waldman (and millions of like-minded Jews worldwide) don’t realize it yet or simply don’t care. Steve is right to bring such a screed to wider attention.

    *Addendum: Here’s a for/against breakdown of the first 50 comments under the piece. (I left out pro/anti comments from self-ID’d non-Jews. Of course, on the internet we’re all secretly dogs, so who really knows either way.)

    1 = Agree with Chabon/Waldman
    0 = Disagree with Chabon/Waldman

    Sequential occurrence:

    11110011100010100000110100010110001101000010001011
     
    Proportional overlay:

    1 = 0000000000000000000000
    0 = 0000000000000000000000000000
     
    Peer review of the data is welcome. :)
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  88. Clyde says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Sarah Silverman extended an olive branch to white nationalists on Twitter, offering them a seat at the table with her.

    She ought to actually invite a few for dinner and film it, Dinner For Five-style.

    https://twitter.com/SarahKSilverman/status/899133516289417216

    Sarah Silverman is pretty tough. I can tell by her thick hair that starts out low on forehead. She has a good physicality combined with high J- IQ. I have a sneaking suspicion she is bi as in bi-polar and this is what messed up her life as far as normality with husband and three children. She became a freelancer comedian which is tougher for the women

    Her lefty rabbi sister—
    Susan lives in Jerusalem, Israel and has five children, two of whom were adopted from Africa. (lulz) [6] Susan and her daughter Hallel Abramowitz are members of Women of the Wall, and in 2012, they were arrested for wearing prayer shawls at the Western Wall.[2][3] News of this went viral after Sarah Silverman tweeted her support.[1]
    _wikipedia_

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    Silverman has nice teeth. That is all I'm willing to concede, and would forego that statement if she would keep her mouth shut.
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  89. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @BaruchKogan
    @Steve, why don't you point out that 95% of the comments on Chabon's article (including mine) are from Jews telling him to pound sand, that he does not represent us, Jews in general, or anybody but NPR?

    This is my problem with you on Jews-you notice Jews doing/saying bad things, and not all those Jews (the majority) who disagree with them, privately or publicly. When the Left applies the same treatment to whites, you are justifiably outraged-it's dishonest.

    @Steve, why don’t you point out that 95% of the comments on Chabon’s article (including mine) are from Jews telling him to pound sand, that he does not represent us, Jews in general, or anybody but NPR?

    Probably because that’s nowhere near the truth. There are a few like that, but the majority definitely agree with him.

    “This is my problem with you on Jews-you notice Jews doing/saying bad things, and not all those Jews (the majority) who disagree with them, privately or publicly. ”

    So now you’re telling us that the majority of Jews are not anti-Trump? Their admitted voting pattern would seem to dispute that.

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    What's not the truth, that 95% of the comments on Chabon's article are Jews telling him to get stuffed?
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  90. Hunsdon says:
    @anony-mouse
    Virtually all 'open letters' are silly things-just stunts by their writers.

    In this case the majority of Jews won't read it and the majority of those who read it aren't Jews.

    Then Chabon must be a very stupid man.

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  91. Hunsdon says:
    @Lot
    "The cycle of Jewish overreach is again playing out before our very eyes."

    Got any evidence? Seems to me the most popular man for left wing Americans is Bernie and on the right is Bibi. His speech before Congress was interrupted by applause like twice per sentence.

    There was a very Stalin-esque “I’m not going to be the first to stop clapping” vibe to it.

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  92. @Moshe
    Guy's an ass but from what I see around me, plenty of independent-minded fairly informed people really believe in the whole nazi thing and really believe that Trump was saying that some of them are "good people".

    Also, from a personal point of view, I'm obviously somewhat informed and I trusted Trump when he said that there were plenty of non white supremacists there but it was something I had not priorly been aware of. I can imagine that if I personally was not aware of it but know enough to trust that Trump didn't make it out of whole cloth, then others, less informed, would have no reason to believe whatsoever that there were non Nazis involved on the right.

    My impression has been that Richard Spencer and his people organized this unite the right thing for all sorts of extreme right groups, including all kinds of fractured white nationalist groups. For the record, personally I don't particularly have much issue with white nationalist to want to carve out a place in America where they can make their own rules and only accept who they want to accept, but I perfectly understand that to most people this sounds a lot like the Nazi program. and if they have the same perception that I had before I heard Trump speak, that this rally was basically run by the extreme right-wing, represented by someone like Spencer, then it wouldn't surprise me that people would think that Trump was cool about Nazis, even if things like having a Jewish daughter didn't quite makes sense.

    So, yeah, I don't know who this guy is and I doubt I've ever read anything by him, but overall, I know that I'm getting a lot of shit for standing up and supporting that press conference at Trump gave and I'm getting it from people who are otherwise very rational and pretty accurate on stuff. They, as well as a large part of the country including those who voted for Trump, are frightened by images of marching Nazis and are wondering why Trump said that some of them are good people.

    We can all talk to each other but how ridiculous that is but that won't do a damn good thing to educate the country. Trump having some kind of plan and his allowing charismatic people to get out there with videos and powerpoints would do some good. But I don't think he has a plan, or even particularly cares to have one unless he thinks he needs it for his own benefit, and I'm pretty sure that he would never allow anybody even remotely charismatic to steal his thunder.

    And with the media and the business community and the entrenched bureaucracy and the school system and Silicon Valley all supporting each other on one end of the narrative I'm not sure that much can be done.

    Then again, I personally am optimistic about this. I haven't really given the home Nazi confusion much thought yet but overall, I truly hope that no "progress" is made against the sjw and their beliefs. I know of course at some has been made lately but hopefully this whole recent snafu will undo it. I'm not trying to save the world. I'm just here to have fun. And unless I see a large and very clear and distinct reason why I should care if the common person thinks that blacks are the same smart as Jews, I am quite happy for the common person to believe that. Obviously that would change if there were some clear and present purpose for why I wanted people to get their facts straight but so long as all of the explanations are roundabout, boring and off in the future, I prefer to be in the society we're all of the morons, who are always with us, believe the same stupid things that they have been believing and shouting about for a while. It's calming and comforting like the sound of rainfall.

    Guy’s an ass but from what I see around me, plenty of independent-minded fairly informed people really believe in the whole nazi thing and really believe that Trump was saying that some of them are “good people”.

    What was Trump saying?

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  93. Lot says:
    @utu
    Lot, you are so naive. Do you think they really meant the applauding they gave to Netanyahu? With every clap of their hands they were thinking of revenge for having to go through the humiliation and indignity.

    So the evidence is your unverifiable knowledge of people’s mental states.

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    Elsewhere on the Unz Review I have called things like that argumentum ad opinione utu
    It happens often enough that I think it deserves the status of having its own name as a logical fallacy.
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  94. BaruchKogan says: • Website
    @anon
    @Steve, why don’t you point out that 95% of the comments on Chabon’s article (including mine) are from Jews telling him to pound sand, that he does not represent us, Jews in general, or anybody but NPR?

    Probably because that's nowhere near the truth. There are a few like that, but the majority definitely agree with him.

    "This is my problem with you on Jews-you notice Jews doing/saying bad things, and not all those Jews (the majority) who disagree with them, privately or publicly. "

    So now you're telling us that the majority of Jews are not anti-Trump? Their admitted voting pattern would seem to dispute that.

    What’s not the truth, that 95% of the comments on Chabon’s article are Jews telling him to get stuffed?

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    What’s not the truth, that 95% of the comments on Chabon’s article are Jews telling him to get stuffed?

    Yes, that's what is not the truth. At least on the Medium site. Are you reading it somewhere else?
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  95. BaruchKogan says: • Website
    @JohnnyWalker123
    It's interesting which prominent advisors haven't been pushed out of the Trump administration or even questioned.

    Gary Cohn
    Dina Powell
    Steve Mnuchin

    What do all three have in common?

    They all worked at Goldman Sachs in very senior positions.

    Dina Powell started off her professional career by working in politics. Later, despite having no non-political experience, Goldman Sachs hired her and made her a partner. Which is a bit odd, as a non-finance background almost always is a disqualification from working on Wall Street. Becoming a Goldman partner with no financial experience is like a paralegal becoming the Chief of Surgery. Very strange.

    See below.

    Powell joined Goldman Sachs in 2007 as a managing director[5] and was named partner in 2010,[7] thus achieving one of the most highly sought-after prizes in American finance.[31] Powell has conceded that she joined Goldman Sachs despite having no background in the subject of finance, but has said that her entire career has been guided by the notion of not planning a lot but rather "just taking that leap of faith."[19]
     

    She married Richard C. Powell on January 10, 1998. A man who works in public relations, he became a managing director of the Washington-based Quinn Gillespie & Associates[15] and now is employed by Teneo as the president of Teneo Strategy.[21] Teneo is a firm founded by associates of the Clintons.[22]
     
    Mnuchin was Goldman's Chief Information Officer and Cohn was the Goldman Chief Operating Officer.

    Goldman Sachs is the permanent government.

    Mnuchin is also a Skull and Bones guy. His name is in Prof. Sutton’s book on the club, appears in the back in the register of members for, I think, 1983.

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  96. Ivy says:
    @Clyde
    Sarah Silverman is pretty tough. I can tell by her thick hair that starts out low on forehead. She has a good physicality combined with high J- IQ. I have a sneaking suspicion she is bi as in bi-polar and this is what messed up her life as far as normality with husband and three children. She became a freelancer comedian which is tougher for the women

    Her lefty rabbi sister---
    Susan lives in Jerusalem, Israel and has five children, two of whom were adopted from Africa. (lulz) [6] Susan and her daughter Hallel Abramowitz are members of Women of the Wall, and in 2012, they were arrested for wearing prayer shawls at the Western Wall.[2][3] News of this went viral after Sarah Silverman tweeted her support.[1]
    _wikipedia_

    Silverman has nice teeth. That is all I’m willing to concede, and would forego that statement if she would keep her mouth shut.

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    Where live I encounter third wordlers with gleaming chompers. As recently as two days ago.
    , @anon
    Funny. That's what they always tell you to check out when you're buying a horse.

    It's where the phrase "long in the tooth" comes from.
    , @Stebbing Heuer
    She's a physically attractive woman but crazy as a lemonade sandwich. More red flags than a May Day parade.
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  97. res says:
    @Lot
    So the evidence is your unverifiable knowledge of people's mental states.

    Elsewhere on the Unz Review I have called things like that argumentum ad opinione utu
    It happens often enough that I think it deserves the status of having its own name as a logical fallacy.

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  98. anonymous says: • Website • Disclaimer
    @International Jew
    Waldman ain't half bad looking for a 53-year-old woman, and in Berkeley she's way up there. Plus, she gave Chabon four biological children — those are her Israeli family values speaking — which is about four more than he woulda got from an American version of her. Yeah, she's kinda meshuga otherwise, but he is too so it can be a good match.

    Uh, she’s ugly. No crime in that though. She does have the iSteve-ish distinction of graduating from the Harvard Law School in the same class as Barack Hussein Obama II (and that chick from “The Runaways” that nobody really cares about but she claimed she was raped by Kim Fowley).

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  99. nebulafox says:

    The Israeli government has long had a rich habit of privately mocking or dismissing the world view of prominent American progressive co-religionists, even in the Labour days. This is why.

    All Jews must do *nothing*. Netanyahu is going to keep dealing with Trump, just like any other world leader does. He’s not going to drop his things and cut off his own nuts because some left-wing American Jew tells him to. He has no choice, anyway: the USA has several thousand nukes and the world’s reserve currency. One thing you realize when traveling outside of the USA is that, for all its decline, you can’t really ignore it anywhere else in the world. It is simply too big and powerful.

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  100. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @anon
    LSD micro-dosing is a big thing among a lot of people these days. It's chief attraction is that it lets you brag about being high status enough that you can talk openly about doing drugs every day without fear of being arrested or losing your job.

    If Waldman worked for an employer, she’d be out of a job for admitting her LSD use. They’d also be taking her kids away from her if she weren’t semi-well known.

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  101. Jews have peaked in terms of power and influence and what we are seeing now is the beginning of a process similar to what the WASPs went through two generations ago and there is nothing they will be able to do to stop it. They should be a little more charitable now because as the old proverb says, “be careful who you step on on your way up the ladder of success. You might see them on the way back down.”

    Much of the freak out over Bannon is a realization that whites are beginning to in-group and that Jews and other identity groups will have to figure which side they are on in the political realignment that is taking place. Not only is everyone forced to take sides but they now have to do it openly. Bannon has been a stalking horse, particularly for Jews, because he is the face of the new media which threatened the television monopoly. The internet is amorphous and he is the closest person or thing to lash out at so all they can do is try and destroy him. That is one thing television is still good for.

    Jews might have a disproportionate amount of money but as we see with political campaigns, all it can do ultimately is buy television commercials. And if those don’t work like with the attacks on Donald Trump, you are up a creek.

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  102. AndrewR says:

    Noblesse oblige concerned relations between different classes of the same ethnic group.

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  103. Clyde says:
    @Ivy
    Silverman has nice teeth. That is all I'm willing to concede, and would forego that statement if she would keep her mouth shut.

    Where live I encounter third wordlers with gleaming chompers. As recently as two days ago.

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  104. @BaruchKogan
    @Steve, why don't you point out that 95% of the comments on Chabon's article (including mine) are from Jews telling him to pound sand, that he does not represent us, Jews in general, or anybody but NPR?

    This is my problem with you on Jews-you notice Jews doing/saying bad things, and not all those Jews (the majority) who disagree with them, privately or publicly. When the Left applies the same treatment to whites, you are justifiably outraged-it's dishonest.

    This is my problem with you on Jews-you notice Jews doing/saying bad things, and not all those Jews (the majority) who disagree with them, privately or publicly.

    Baruch, you must be joking. A majority of Jews in the U.S. voted against Trump. I don’t doubt that many of the comments on Chabon’s post are sincere and in the vein of “don’t blame Trump for the extremism of others,” but many Jews hate/disdain Trump (and ‘flyover’ whites) and don’t want to publicly identify as a transnational Tribe, lest the general white populace increasingly intuits an ethnically organic (if not necessarily conspiratorial) “Protocols” level of anti-MAGA resistance.

    A lot of the Jewish comments against (not 95% like you said, it’s about 56%*) Chabon and Waldman’s outburst are from BDS-aware Zionist hawks, and many are also likely motivated by real-life sentiment parodied by the mocking alt-right phrase: “DA GOYIM KNOW. SHUT IT DOWN.”

    Under the piece, “AmRusDebate” addressed Chabon and the majority of the commenters:

    What a bunch of putzes. You are a shonda to Yiddishkite …

    If non-Jewish readers (and Jewish) get the impression that Jews are somehow always acting in concert, this is false. This is an Anti-Semitic canard that dumb people like Mr. Chabon, whose Jewishiness we actually know nothing about, propagate either through their inability to assimilate to America, or their senility.

    I do have sympathy with the minority of righteous Jews who are understandably against actual Nazis but nonetheless are full MAGA and (implicitly or explicitly) agree that the tide of non-white immigration to the West must be drastically curtailed.

    Unfortunately they are outnumbered by legions of vocal, often blatantly anti-white Jews, like the ones featured on this Twitter page, who have real power in consequential Western institutions. The election of Trump acted as a temporary safety valve in American politics, but Chabon and Waldman (and millions of like-minded Jews worldwide) don’t realize it yet or simply don’t care. Steve is right to bring such a screed to wider attention.

    *Addendum: Here’s a for/against breakdown of the first 50 comments under the piece. (I left out pro/anti comments from self-ID’d non-Jews. Of course, on the internet we’re all secretly dogs, so who really knows either way.)

    1 = Agree with Chabon/Waldman
    0 = Disagree with Chabon/Waldman

    Sequential occurrence:

    11110011100010100000110100010110001101000010001011

    Proportional overlay:

    1 = 0000000000000000000000
    0 = 0000000000000000000000000000

    Peer review of the data is welcome. :)

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    I didn't go through all the comments. Went through the top 10, 9 of which are telling Chabon he sucks.

    We can do top 50, top 100, or all of them-the representation will change and converge on some number-I suspect that number will be closer to 90% than 50%.

    There are millions of Jews in America. Many are employed/living in professions/places where leftism is the default setting (academia/media, for instance.) Of course, you can find no shortage of such Jews making leftist statements-you can fill ten twitter accounts with quotes. So what?

    As for who voted for Trump-Orthodox Jews (the only ones to whom being Jewish is something significant, more significant than being Irish on St. Paddy's day, more significant than status, money or profession) voted for Trump.

    https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/orthodox-jews-overwhelmingly-voted-for-trump

    http://www.thelehrhaus.com/scholarship/2017/1/17/the-modern-orthodox-vote-and-the-episcopalian-turn

    These are the ONLY Jews who get their values and ideas from a source other than the gentile world.

    They also happen to be the only Jews making Jewish children. Which means that in a couple of generations, those American Jews who have stayed in America (hopefully, none of them) will mostly be Orthodox.

    And they are still on side:

    http://forward.com/opinion/379908/orthodox-trump-white-supremacists-charlottesville/

    Now, it's possible that, given enough tiki torches, Heil Trump, Jews will not replace us, etc., the Orthodox Jews will decide that the alt-right is, in fact, getting pretty fashy. And I doubt they will vote for a fashy movement. What they (we, I guess, though I live in Israel now and don't vote anywhere as a matter of principle) would be happy with, from America's leadership, is basically Bannon.
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  105. His letter comes off like his books: High-handed and unbearably pretentious.

    My feeling is that anyone who calls on the entirety of any religion, race, or nationality to say or do anything has no understanding of humans or humanity. Because even through people of a certain group might share a lot of characteristics, the “all” label means he fails to notice the individuality within that group.

    Meaning he sees the group as a “thing,” not as people. Sounds a bit like the “objectification” liberals love to complain about, doesn’t it?

    To cite a personal example, I might be Italian-American, but I can’t think of people I’d have less in common with than John Gotti, Madonna, or that weird short-lived Trump appointee whose name I can’t remember. Therefore, if anyone called on “all Italian-Americans” to think one way, I’d think they were mindless and controlling. Which is about what I think of Chabon. (P.S.: Tom Perrotta is ten times the writer Chabon is, and I’m not just saying that because he’s Italian!)

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  106. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @BaruchKogan
    What's not the truth, that 95% of the comments on Chabon's article are Jews telling him to get stuffed?

    What’s not the truth, that 95% of the comments on Chabon’s article are Jews telling him to get stuffed?

    Yes, that’s what is not the truth. At least on the Medium site. Are you reading it somewhere else?

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  107. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Ivy
    Silverman has nice teeth. That is all I'm willing to concede, and would forego that statement if she would keep her mouth shut.

    Funny. That’s what they always tell you to check out when you’re buying a horse.

    It’s where the phrase “long in the tooth” comes from.

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  108. TGGP says: • Website

    I would assume Chabon would regard his open-letter as entirely in keeping with your advice.

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  109. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Jeez, Jews can’t catch break anywhere. Scary anti-immigrants in America, scary jihadi immigrants in Europe. It’s almost like none of this would be happening if some special people didn’t keep hypocritically pushing the Zeroth Amendment on all of the West.

    Introspection? Vhat ees dat you say?

    https://twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/899060324443201536

    https://twitter.com/Alba_Rising/status/899002430502916097

    I will give Benjamin Netanyahu and his son credit for not totally jumping on the Charlottesville outrage bandwagon. Hawkish Zionists with any brains realize that ostentatiously slamming White Nationalism means that Jewish Nationalism—the raison d’être of Israel itself—has no defense.

    P.S., Ayelet Waldman guest posting on Ta-Nehisi Coates’s erstwhile blog in 2010:

    Last spring the US Census Bureau released figures estimating that the state of Maine is 95.3 percent white. It is, in fact, the whitest state in the country, just edging out Vermont and West Virginia for that dubious distinction.
     

    Netanyahu and his son … not totally jumping on the Charlottesville outrage bandwagon.

    Netanyahu’s family is extremely “based”. The patriarch, Netanyahu’s father, was a militant ultra-Zionist who was said to have periods of disconnection from Bibi for being too soft on Arabs. His three sons all were special-forces commandos in the Israeli army (one KIA). Now his grandson tells it like it is:

    Netanyahu’s son Yair … caused a public outcry when he appeared to parrot Trump’s sentiments. He wrote a Facebook post Wednesday saying the “neo nazis scums in Virginia” are a dying breed, but left-wing anti-fascist and Black Lives Matter groups, who he said hate Israel “just as much,” are “getting stronger and stronger and becoming super dominant in American universities and public life.”

    I don’t know if Netanyahu will survive his own Deep State special prosecutor problems, but it is great to have him saying things that make sense and expose the insanity of American Jewish responses to Trumpism.

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    Bibi is leftist trash.

    He spouts endless right-wing rhetoric, and then does the exact same thing the leftists do when in power-destroys Jewish homes, legalizes illegal Arab construction, pays the Palestinian Authority, supplies power and electricity to Hamas...he created a Ministry of Gender Equality, FFS!

    He rolled over during the most recent intifada.

    He presided over the prosecution and jailing of a Jewish soldier who shot a terrorist, because the terrorist had already been shot and posed no threat.

    And the most recent supplicating before the Jordanians and the local Arabs, after the terrorist attack where the weapons used to kill Israeli cops in Jerusalem were stored on the Temple Mount by the Arabs. The cops installed magnetometers at the entrance, so the Arabs boycotted the Temple Mount in protest. So Bibi folded. No more magnetometers.

    While Bibi's father was very right wing by today's standards, so was almost everyone in Israel, including the very left.

    Bibi is quite corrupt (though no more than the typical Knesset member,) and his son is a typical member of the secular Israeli elites.
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  110. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Jeez, Jews can’t catch break anywhere. Scary anti-immigrants in America, scary jihadi immigrants in Europe. It’s almost like none of this would be happening if some special people didn’t keep hypocritically pushing the Zeroth Amendment on all of the West.

    Introspection? Vhat ees dat you say?

    https://twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/899060324443201536

    https://twitter.com/Alba_Rising/status/899002430502916097

    I will give Benjamin Netanyahu and his son credit for not totally jumping on the Charlottesville outrage bandwagon. Hawkish Zionists with any brains realize that ostentatiously slamming White Nationalism means that Jewish Nationalism—the raison d’être of Israel itself—has no defense.

    P.S., Ayelet Waldman guest posting on Ta-Nehisi Coates’s erstwhile blog in 2010:

    Last spring the US Census Bureau released figures estimating that the state of Maine is 95.3 percent white. It is, in fact, the whitest state in the country, just edging out Vermont and West Virginia for that dubious distinction.
     

    Netanyahu and his son … not totally jumping on the Charlottesville outrage bandwagon.

    Netanyahu’s family is extremely “based”. The patriarch, Netanyahu’s father, was a militant ultra-Zionist who was said to have periods of disconnection from Bibi for being too soft on Arabs. His three sons all were special forces commandos in the Israeli army (one of them killed in action). Now his grandson tells it like it is:

    Netanyahu’s son Yair … caused a public outcry when he appeared to parrot Trump’s sentiments. He wrote a Facebook post Wednesday saying the “neo nazis scums in Virginia” are a dying breed, but left-wing anti-fascist and Black Lives Matter groups, who he said hate Israel “just as much,” are “getting stronger and stronger and becoming super dominant in American universities and public life.”

    I don’t know if PM Netanyahu will survive his own Deep State special prosecutor problems, but it is great to have him saying sensible things that expose the insanity of liberal American Jewish paranoia about Trump.

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  111. BaruchKogan says: • Website
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    This is my problem with you on Jews-you notice Jews doing/saying bad things, and not all those Jews (the majority) who disagree with them, privately or publicly.
     
    Baruch, you must be joking. A majority of Jews in the U.S. voted against Trump. I don’t doubt that many of the comments on Chabon’s post are sincere and in the vein of “don’t blame Trump for the extremism of others,” but many Jews hate/disdain Trump (and ‘flyover’ whites) and don’t want to publicly identify as a transnational Tribe, lest the general white populace increasingly intuits an ethnically organic (if not necessarily conspiratorial) “Protocols” level of anti-MAGA resistance.

    A lot of the Jewish comments against (not 95% like you said, it’s about 56%*) Chabon and Waldman’s outburst are from BDS-aware Zionist hawks, and many are also likely motivated by real-life sentiment parodied by the mocking alt-right phrase: “DA GOYIM KNOW. SHUT IT DOWN.”

    Under the piece, “AmRusDebate” addressed Chabon and the majority of the commenters:

    What a bunch of putzes. You are a shonda to Yiddishkite …

    If non-Jewish readers (and Jewish) get the impression that Jews are somehow always acting in concert, this is false. This is an Anti-Semitic canard that dumb people like Mr. Chabon, whose Jewishiness we actually know nothing about, propagate either through their inability to assimilate to America, or their senility.
     
    I do have sympathy with the minority of righteous Jews who are understandably against actual Nazis but nonetheless are full MAGA and (implicitly or explicitly) agree that the tide of non-white immigration to the West must be drastically curtailed.

    Unfortunately they are outnumbered by legions of vocal, often blatantly anti-white Jews, like the ones featured on this Twitter page, who have real power in consequential Western institutions. The election of Trump acted as a temporary safety valve in American politics, but Chabon and Waldman (and millions of like-minded Jews worldwide) don’t realize it yet or simply don’t care. Steve is right to bring such a screed to wider attention.

    *Addendum: Here’s a for/against breakdown of the first 50 comments under the piece. (I left out pro/anti comments from self-ID’d non-Jews. Of course, on the internet we’re all secretly dogs, so who really knows either way.)

    1 = Agree with Chabon/Waldman
    0 = Disagree with Chabon/Waldman

    Sequential occurrence:

    11110011100010100000110100010110001101000010001011
     
    Proportional overlay:

    1 = 0000000000000000000000
    0 = 0000000000000000000000000000
     
    Peer review of the data is welcome. :)

    I didn’t go through all the comments. Went through the top 10, 9 of which are telling Chabon he sucks.

    We can do top 50, top 100, or all of them-the representation will change and converge on some number-I suspect that number will be closer to 90% than 50%.

    There are millions of Jews in America. Many are employed/living in professions/places where leftism is the default setting (academia/media, for instance.) Of course, you can find no shortage of such Jews making leftist statements-you can fill ten twitter accounts with quotes. So what?

    As for who voted for Trump-Orthodox Jews (the only ones to whom being Jewish is something significant, more significant than being Irish on St. Paddy’s day, more significant than status, money or profession) voted for Trump.

    https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/orthodox-jews-overwhelmingly-voted-for-trump

    http://www.thelehrhaus.com/scholarship/2017/1/17/the-modern-orthodox-vote-and-the-episcopalian-turn

    These are the ONLY Jews who get their values and ideas from a source other than the gentile world.

    They also happen to be the only Jews making Jewish children. Which means that in a couple of generations, those American Jews who have stayed in America (hopefully, none of them) will mostly be Orthodox.

    And they are still on side:

    http://forward.com/opinion/379908/orthodox-trump-white-supremacists-charlottesville/

    Now, it’s possible that, given enough tiki torches, Heil Trump, Jews will not replace us, etc., the Orthodox Jews will decide that the alt-right is, in fact, getting pretty fashy. And I doubt they will vote for a fashy movement. What they (we, I guess, though I live in Israel now and don’t vote anywhere as a matter of principle) would be happy with, from America’s leadership, is basically Bannon.

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    What they (we, I guess, though I live in Israel now and don’t vote anywhere as a matter of principle) would be happy with, from America’s leadership, is basically Bannon.
     
    That's really quite interesting, and contrary to what the establishment megaphone has vomited out for the last year. Thankyou.
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  112. BaruchKogan says: • Website
    @academic gossip

    Netanyahu and his son ... not totally jumping on the Charlottesville outrage bandwagon.
     
    Netanyahu's family is extremely "based". The patriarch, Netanyahu's father, was a militant ultra-Zionist who was said to have periods of disconnection from Bibi for being too soft on Arabs. His three sons all were special-forces commandos in the Israeli army (one KIA). Now his grandson tells it like it is:

    Netanyahu's son Yair ... caused a public outcry when he appeared to parrot Trump's sentiments. He wrote a Facebook post Wednesday saying the "neo nazis scums in Virginia" are a dying breed, but left-wing anti-fascist and Black Lives Matter groups, who he said hate Israel "just as much," are "getting stronger and stronger and becoming super dominant in American universities and public life."
     
    I don't know if Netanyahu will survive his own Deep State special prosecutor problems, but it is great to have him saying things that make sense and expose the insanity of American Jewish responses to Trumpism.

    Bibi is leftist trash.

    He spouts endless right-wing rhetoric, and then does the exact same thing the leftists do when in power-destroys Jewish homes, legalizes illegal Arab construction, pays the Palestinian Authority, supplies power and electricity to Hamas…he created a Ministry of Gender Equality, FFS!

    He rolled over during the most recent intifada.

    He presided over the prosecution and jailing of a Jewish soldier who shot a terrorist, because the terrorist had already been shot and posed no threat.

    And the most recent supplicating before the Jordanians and the local Arabs, after the terrorist attack where the weapons used to kill Israeli cops in Jerusalem were stored on the Temple Mount by the Arabs. The cops installed magnetometers at the entrance, so the Arabs boycotted the Temple Mount in protest. So Bibi folded. No more magnetometers.

    While Bibi’s father was very right wing by today’s standards, so was almost everyone in Israel, including the very left.

    Bibi is quite corrupt (though no more than the typical Knesset member,) and his son is a typical member of the secular Israeli elites.

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    Netanyahu is "based" by year 2017 American standards in that his politics is fairly close to US alt-right. Demographics, fertility, ethnonationalism, border walls, immigration policy, security, and (best of all) telling Europe that admitting refugees will end its survival. He openly supports Trump and has surrogates, such as his son and cabinet ministers, willing to go further on his behalf. This is incredibly valuable given the insanely anti-Trump sentiments of American liberal Jews.

    Here's another example:


    The prime minister has not commented on the issue since Trump reignited controversy on Tuesday when he blamed both sides for the violence in Charlottesville. But [Communications Minister] Kara, who sat next to Netanyahu at last week’s mass Likud rally at the Tel Aviv Fairgrounds, said Israel must defend Trump.

    “Due to the terrific relations with the US, we need to put the declarations about the Nazis in the proper proportion,” Kara said. “We need to condemn antisemitism and any trace of Nazism, and I will do what I can as a minister to stop its spread. But Trump is the best US leader Israel has ever had. His relations with the prime minister of Israel are wonderful, and after enduring the terrible years of Obama, Trump is the unquestioned leader of the free world, and we must not accept anyone harming him."

    Kara praised Trump for having “a proven track record in opposing antisemitism and religious extremism.”

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Israeli-minister-Relations-with-Trump-are-more-important-than-calling-out-Nazis-502708

     

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  113. @BaruchKogan
    Bibi is leftist trash.

    He spouts endless right-wing rhetoric, and then does the exact same thing the leftists do when in power-destroys Jewish homes, legalizes illegal Arab construction, pays the Palestinian Authority, supplies power and electricity to Hamas...he created a Ministry of Gender Equality, FFS!

    He rolled over during the most recent intifada.

    He presided over the prosecution and jailing of a Jewish soldier who shot a terrorist, because the terrorist had already been shot and posed no threat.

    And the most recent supplicating before the Jordanians and the local Arabs, after the terrorist attack where the weapons used to kill Israeli cops in Jerusalem were stored on the Temple Mount by the Arabs. The cops installed magnetometers at the entrance, so the Arabs boycotted the Temple Mount in protest. So Bibi folded. No more magnetometers.

    While Bibi's father was very right wing by today's standards, so was almost everyone in Israel, including the very left.

    Bibi is quite corrupt (though no more than the typical Knesset member,) and his son is a typical member of the secular Israeli elites.

    Netanyahu is “based” by year 2017 American standards in that his politics is fairly close to US alt-right. Demographics, fertility, ethnonationalism, border walls, immigration policy, security, and (best of all) telling Europe that admitting refugees will end its survival. He openly supports Trump and has surrogates, such as his son and cabinet ministers, willing to go further on his behalf. This is incredibly valuable given the insanely anti-Trump sentiments of American liberal Jews.

    Here’s another example:

    The prime minister has not commented on the issue since Trump reignited controversy on Tuesday when he blamed both sides for the violence in Charlottesville. But [Communications Minister] Kara, who sat next to Netanyahu at last week’s mass Likud rally at the Tel Aviv Fairgrounds, said Israel must defend Trump.

    “Due to the terrific relations with the US, we need to put the declarations about the Nazis in the proper proportion,” Kara said. “We need to condemn antisemitism and any trace of Nazism, and I will do what I can as a minister to stop its spread. But Trump is the best US leader Israel has ever had. His relations with the prime minister of Israel are wonderful, and after enduring the terrible years of Obama, Trump is the unquestioned leader of the free world, and we must not accept anyone harming him.

    Kara praised Trump for having “a proven track record in opposing antisemitism and religious extremism.”

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Israeli-minister-Relations-with-Trump-are-more-important-than-calling-out-Nazis-502708

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    Again-if Bibi's actions were a quarter as based as his words, he'd be the greatest PM ever.

    They are not.

    Bibi got in by telling the majority of Jews in Israel what they wanted to hear, which was right wing.

    But he got to the point where he was one of the contenders by spending his adult life being a team player in a very different kind of game, and that is what determines what he actually DOES.

    When you look at the contenders, they have a very similar background.

    Bibi, Barak, Bennett, Livni, Herzog are all upper middle class secular Ashkenazi products of the military/intelligence complex.

    None of them have any sort of principles, except for vaguely Zionistic ones (Zionism today is largely paid lip service to among the secular elite.)

    There was lots of speculation about Bibi's connections to CFR. I suspect that the rest of them have similar connections.

    At this point, these choices are basically market segmentation, to give the customer the feeling he's made an important choice, while in actuality he hasn't-Israel's policies will continue to be as close to those of the global elite as possible without the country committing suicide or having some sort of revolutionary event (either would result in the global Deep State's proxies losing control of the place, which would be bad for them.)
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  114. BaruchKogan says: • Website
    @academic gossip
    Netanyahu is "based" by year 2017 American standards in that his politics is fairly close to US alt-right. Demographics, fertility, ethnonationalism, border walls, immigration policy, security, and (best of all) telling Europe that admitting refugees will end its survival. He openly supports Trump and has surrogates, such as his son and cabinet ministers, willing to go further on his behalf. This is incredibly valuable given the insanely anti-Trump sentiments of American liberal Jews.

    Here's another example:


    The prime minister has not commented on the issue since Trump reignited controversy on Tuesday when he blamed both sides for the violence in Charlottesville. But [Communications Minister] Kara, who sat next to Netanyahu at last week’s mass Likud rally at the Tel Aviv Fairgrounds, said Israel must defend Trump.

    “Due to the terrific relations with the US, we need to put the declarations about the Nazis in the proper proportion,” Kara said. “We need to condemn antisemitism and any trace of Nazism, and I will do what I can as a minister to stop its spread. But Trump is the best US leader Israel has ever had. His relations with the prime minister of Israel are wonderful, and after enduring the terrible years of Obama, Trump is the unquestioned leader of the free world, and we must not accept anyone harming him."

    Kara praised Trump for having “a proven track record in opposing antisemitism and religious extremism.”

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Israeli-minister-Relations-with-Trump-are-more-important-than-calling-out-Nazis-502708

     

    Again-if Bibi’s actions were a quarter as based as his words, he’d be the greatest PM ever.

    They are not.

    Bibi got in by telling the majority of Jews in Israel what they wanted to hear, which was right wing.

    But he got to the point where he was one of the contenders by spending his adult life being a team player in a very different kind of game, and that is what determines what he actually DOES.

    When you look at the contenders, they have a very similar background.

    Bibi, Barak, Bennett, Livni, Herzog are all upper middle class secular Ashkenazi products of the military/intelligence complex.

    None of them have any sort of principles, except for vaguely Zionistic ones (Zionism today is largely paid lip service to among the secular elite.)

    There was lots of speculation about Bibi’s connections to CFR. I suspect that the rest of them have similar connections.

    At this point, these choices are basically market segmentation, to give the customer the feeling he’s made an important choice, while in actuality he hasn’t-Israel’s policies will continue to be as close to those of the global elite as possible without the country committing suicide or having some sort of revolutionary event (either would result in the global Deep State’s proxies losing control of the place, which would be bad for them.)

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    Bibi, Barak, Bennett, Livni, Herzog are all upper middle class secular Ashkenazi products of the military/intelligence complex.
     
    By US and European standards, their backgrounds are incredibly "based". It would be a colossal improvement to have such a complex in charge of any Western country. Elite military work taking personal risks? 3 children each, maybe 10 or more including grandchildren, all of whom serve in the army and are physically exposed to the results of government policies. That is skin in the game, completely opposite to the insane Western elites who run their countries over a cliff with no personal stake in the results.

    Also, as much of the Israeli leadership have engineering degrees as are lawyers, which is closer to China (another successfully managed ethnostate) than to late stage collapsing US run by people from law, academia, media and finance, plus idiot relatives of former leaders.

    I understand Bibi is not a hyperpatriotic kibbutznik or settler and isn't half a Begin. But even if all he does is *talk* (and Trumpishly point to a working border wall, dysfunction in Europe, etc) in the way that he already has, it is extremely valuable for reducing the level of political insanity in the USA now that the alt-right is being purged under the pretense of anti-Nazism. There is a reason he is more popular with the US right than in Israel : he represents almost a paradise, and a level of freedom of speech, that they can only dream of.

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  115. Jim Smith says:
    @Anonymous
    "they should apply to themselves an updated version of the old cavalier concept of noblesse oblige."

    I'm reminded of the snake story from Natural Born Killers. Promoting a change in nature can be noble-minded, but expecting it can be as equally foolish. This is just the way they are.

    Noblesse oblige? Difficult to think that’s the problem when you have literally billions in Jewish money going to medical institutions, universities, large numbers of charitable institutions, etc. And perhaps the greatest form of Jewish noblesse oblige embodied in the way they vote. Milton Himmelfarb’s (Irving Kristol’s brother-in-law) comment about Jews having the earnings of Episcopalians but voting like Puerto Ricans probably comes closest to the heart of the problem. Jews are perpetual outsiders, unable to free themselves of their history. They are nomadic as opposed to “blood and soil,” and deep down feel greater empathy with those who share that trait, rather than those who once oppressed them. And who more nomadic than third-world-ers and their difficulty in assimilating, compared to the ease of Jewish people who have assimilated to such a degree that Adam Sandler could have a hit song resonating so strongly as it reminded (or was it pride…or just plain gloating?) them how many stars are actually fellow tribalists? As a new elite, the outsider status still leaves them in a degree of limbo, as one would think they would have more in common socially with non-Jewish whites, but of course that’s not how it works in practice. There are still great amounts of middle-class and well-to-do Jews living in majority Jewish neighborhoods, joining Jewish country clubs, and socializing almost exclusively with other Jews (and not living with their third-world kin). And while the Jewish intermarriage rate is high, there’s still strong peer pressure to marry within. So plenty of noblesse oblige, just not toward the white majority.

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  116. Noblesse oblige is a beautiful bit of humanity. Properly, noblesse oblige is not ordered to sustaining the lower classes as parasites forever living off of the higher classes. Rather, I think it is meant to give the low classes the best conditions for whatever limited kind of success they can achieve. Noblesse oblige, the high-minded guidance of the lower classes for the sake of the nation’s common good, is the debt that the innately gifted owe to the nation’s common blood. -Popeye Goyle

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  117. @BaruchKogan
    Again-if Bibi's actions were a quarter as based as his words, he'd be the greatest PM ever.

    They are not.

    Bibi got in by telling the majority of Jews in Israel what they wanted to hear, which was right wing.

    But he got to the point where he was one of the contenders by spending his adult life being a team player in a very different kind of game, and that is what determines what he actually DOES.

    When you look at the contenders, they have a very similar background.

    Bibi, Barak, Bennett, Livni, Herzog are all upper middle class secular Ashkenazi products of the military/intelligence complex.

    None of them have any sort of principles, except for vaguely Zionistic ones (Zionism today is largely paid lip service to among the secular elite.)

    There was lots of speculation about Bibi's connections to CFR. I suspect that the rest of them have similar connections.

    At this point, these choices are basically market segmentation, to give the customer the feeling he's made an important choice, while in actuality he hasn't-Israel's policies will continue to be as close to those of the global elite as possible without the country committing suicide or having some sort of revolutionary event (either would result in the global Deep State's proxies losing control of the place, which would be bad for them.)

    Bibi, Barak, Bennett, Livni, Herzog are all upper middle class secular Ashkenazi products of the military/intelligence complex.

    By US and European standards, their backgrounds are incredibly “based”. It would be a colossal improvement to have such a complex in charge of any Western country. Elite military work taking personal risks? 3 children each, maybe 10 or more including grandchildren, all of whom serve in the army and are physically exposed to the results of government policies. That is skin in the game, completely opposite to the insane Western elites who run their countries over a cliff with no personal stake in the results.

    Also, as much of the Israeli leadership have engineering degrees as are lawyers, which is closer to China (another successfully managed ethnostate) than to late stage collapsing US run by people from law, academia, media and finance, plus idiot relatives of former leaders.

    I understand Bibi is not a hyperpatriotic kibbutznik or settler and isn’t half a Begin. But even if all he does is *talk* (and Trumpishly point to a working border wall, dysfunction in Europe, etc) in the way that he already has, it is extremely valuable for reducing the level of political insanity in the USA now that the alt-right is being purged under the pretense of anti-Nazism. There is a reason he is more popular with the US right than in Israel : he represents almost a paradise, and a level of freedom of speech, that they can only dream of.

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    , @BaruchKogan
    > Elite military work taking personal risks? 3 children each, maybe 10 or more including grandchildren, all of whom serve in the army and are physically exposed to the results of government policies. That is skin in the game, completely opposite to the insane Western elites who run their countries over a cliff with no personal stake in the results.

    You must love John McCain, right? I mean, he's a war hero, his kids served in Iraq, he's on the right...

    ...oh, no? Huh, funny.

    Bibi presided over the handing over of Hevron to the Arabs (it's now the source of half their terrorists,) voted for the expulsion of Jews from Gaza, presided over the illegal arrests, torture and framing of a bunch of kids for Duma (an Arab village where an Arab family's house burned down, so they pinned it on some Jews-but the village is split between two clans that hate each other and keep torching each other's houses,) etc.

    On the other hand, he can always be counted on for right-wing slogans, especially during election season.

    This is the system he is a consummate part of:
    http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/Arrogance.htm

    The other thing is, he represents stasis. We did not come here for stasis-we could have had that back in the old country. And it's not even a good stasis. Sure, real estate values in Tel Aviv are sky-high, there is a new billion dollar startup exit every six months and all that. On the other hand, every week there is an Arab stabbing or shooting Jews, the government tearing down Jewish houses, another ginned-up prosecution of "right-wing extremists." Our holiest place is under the control of our enemies, and if I go up there and so much as pray, an Arab who is employed as an Israeli policeman will arrest me.

    OK, compared to the insane asylum that is America and Europe, we don't have it so bad. But our national mission is not to be "ok compared to America." It's much more than that. Every month we don't come closer to fulfilling it, we move further away.
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  118. @utu
    former European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso

    Interesting career path for a Maoist
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAHv3UnXvmM

    Barroso's political activity began in his late teens, during the Estado Novo regime in Portugal, before the Carnation Revolution of 25 April 1974. In his university days, he was one of the leaders of the underground Maoist MRPP (Reorganising Movement of the Proletariat Party, later PCTP/MRPP, Communist Party of the Portuguese Workers/Revolutionary Movement of the Portuguese Proletariat).

    Au contraire.

    Wearing the fashionable intellectual clothing of the day is one way of climbing your way to the top.

    Marxism one day, crony capitalism the next. And each day climbing a little higher on the greasy pole.

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  119. @Lot
    "The cycle of Jewish overreach is again playing out before our very eyes."

    Got any evidence? Seems to me the most popular man for left wing Americans is Bernie and on the right is Bibi. His speech before Congress was interrupted by applause like twice per sentence.

    The foregoing three comments tell you everything you need to know.

    The Zionists own every member of Congress, lock, stock and barrel.

    The great third rail of the 21st century. The greatest story of the age, that no investigative journalist will go anywhere near.

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  120. @Ivy
    Silverman has nice teeth. That is all I'm willing to concede, and would forego that statement if she would keep her mouth shut.

    She’s a physically attractive woman but crazy as a lemonade sandwich. More red flags than a May Day parade.

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  121. @BaruchKogan
    I didn't go through all the comments. Went through the top 10, 9 of which are telling Chabon he sucks.

    We can do top 50, top 100, or all of them-the representation will change and converge on some number-I suspect that number will be closer to 90% than 50%.

    There are millions of Jews in America. Many are employed/living in professions/places where leftism is the default setting (academia/media, for instance.) Of course, you can find no shortage of such Jews making leftist statements-you can fill ten twitter accounts with quotes. So what?

    As for who voted for Trump-Orthodox Jews (the only ones to whom being Jewish is something significant, more significant than being Irish on St. Paddy's day, more significant than status, money or profession) voted for Trump.

    https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/orthodox-jews-overwhelmingly-voted-for-trump

    http://www.thelehrhaus.com/scholarship/2017/1/17/the-modern-orthodox-vote-and-the-episcopalian-turn

    These are the ONLY Jews who get their values and ideas from a source other than the gentile world.

    They also happen to be the only Jews making Jewish children. Which means that in a couple of generations, those American Jews who have stayed in America (hopefully, none of them) will mostly be Orthodox.

    And they are still on side:

    http://forward.com/opinion/379908/orthodox-trump-white-supremacists-charlottesville/

    Now, it's possible that, given enough tiki torches, Heil Trump, Jews will not replace us, etc., the Orthodox Jews will decide that the alt-right is, in fact, getting pretty fashy. And I doubt they will vote for a fashy movement. What they (we, I guess, though I live in Israel now and don't vote anywhere as a matter of principle) would be happy with, from America's leadership, is basically Bannon.

    What they (we, I guess, though I live in Israel now and don’t vote anywhere as a matter of principle) would be happy with, from America’s leadership, is basically Bannon.

    That’s really quite interesting, and contrary to what the establishment megaphone has vomited out for the last year. Thankyou.

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  122. @newrouter
    "To our fellow Jews, in North America, in Israel, and around the world: What side are you on?"

    mikey the tribe firsty no schmuck?

    Chabon is one of the most anti-Israel guys there is. So he hardly has any solidarity for other Jews.

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  123. Poke646,0 says:

    Slightly OT:

    I may have gotten the link to this twitter feed somewhere on unz, maybe even Isteve so I apologize for not being able to give proper credit. I think it’s worth checking out if you haven’t seen it.

    I think this is what they call a “Master Troller”:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/fellowwhites?lang=en

    …makes tinyquak look like a piker.

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  124. @academic gossip

    Bibi, Barak, Bennett, Livni, Herzog are all upper middle class secular Ashkenazi products of the military/intelligence complex.
     
    By US and European standards, their backgrounds are incredibly "based". It would be a colossal improvement to have such a complex in charge of any Western country. Elite military work taking personal risks? 3 children each, maybe 10 or more including grandchildren, all of whom serve in the army and are physically exposed to the results of government policies. That is skin in the game, completely opposite to the insane Western elites who run their countries over a cliff with no personal stake in the results.

    Also, as much of the Israeli leadership have engineering degrees as are lawyers, which is closer to China (another successfully managed ethnostate) than to late stage collapsing US run by people from law, academia, media and finance, plus idiot relatives of former leaders.

    I understand Bibi is not a hyperpatriotic kibbutznik or settler and isn't half a Begin. But even if all he does is *talk* (and Trumpishly point to a working border wall, dysfunction in Europe, etc) in the way that he already has, it is extremely valuable for reducing the level of political insanity in the USA now that the alt-right is being purged under the pretense of anti-Nazism. There is a reason he is more popular with the US right than in Israel : he represents almost a paradise, and a level of freedom of speech, that they can only dream of.

    Politics in Israel is like politics in 19th Century England: the big time that practically everybody who stands out is expected to eventually go into.

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  125. Mr. Anon says:

    To Steven Mnuchin, Gary Cohn, and our other fellow Jews currently serving under this odious regime: We call upon you to resign…

    Yes. Please do. It’d be nice – for a change – to have a treasury department that isn’t a wholly owned subsidiary of Goldman-Sachs.

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  126. Mr. Anon says:
    @Lot
    "The cycle of Jewish overreach is again playing out before our very eyes."

    Got any evidence? Seems to me the most popular man for left wing Americans is Bernie and on the right is Bibi. His speech before Congress was interrupted by applause like twice per sentence.

    Seems to me the most popular man for left wing Americans is Bernie and on the right is Bibi. His speech before Congress was interrupted by applause like twice per sentence.

    “People’s” Deputies in the Soviet Union gave it up, and in a big way, for Stalin too. And for similar reasons.

    But – sure – if you want us to pretend it isn’t strange for Congress to show greater deference to a foreign head of state than to our own President, and that it doesn’t betoken the large-scale ownership of said Congress by a foreign lobby………………………… okay. We can pretend that’s the case, for your benefit.

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  127. BaruchKogan says: • Website
    @academic gossip

    Bibi, Barak, Bennett, Livni, Herzog are all upper middle class secular Ashkenazi products of the military/intelligence complex.
     
    By US and European standards, their backgrounds are incredibly "based". It would be a colossal improvement to have such a complex in charge of any Western country. Elite military work taking personal risks? 3 children each, maybe 10 or more including grandchildren, all of whom serve in the army and are physically exposed to the results of government policies. That is skin in the game, completely opposite to the insane Western elites who run their countries over a cliff with no personal stake in the results.

    Also, as much of the Israeli leadership have engineering degrees as are lawyers, which is closer to China (another successfully managed ethnostate) than to late stage collapsing US run by people from law, academia, media and finance, plus idiot relatives of former leaders.

    I understand Bibi is not a hyperpatriotic kibbutznik or settler and isn't half a Begin. But even if all he does is *talk* (and Trumpishly point to a working border wall, dysfunction in Europe, etc) in the way that he already has, it is extremely valuable for reducing the level of political insanity in the USA now that the alt-right is being purged under the pretense of anti-Nazism. There is a reason he is more popular with the US right than in Israel : he represents almost a paradise, and a level of freedom of speech, that they can only dream of.

    > Elite military work taking personal risks? 3 children each, maybe 10 or more including grandchildren, all of whom serve in the army and are physically exposed to the results of government policies. That is skin in the game, completely opposite to the insane Western elites who run their countries over a cliff with no personal stake in the results.

    You must love John McCain, right? I mean, he’s a war hero, his kids served in Iraq, he’s on the right…

    …oh, no? Huh, funny.

    Bibi presided over the handing over of Hevron to the Arabs (it’s now the source of half their terrorists,) voted for the expulsion of Jews from Gaza, presided over the illegal arrests, torture and framing of a bunch of kids for Duma (an Arab village where an Arab family’s house burned down, so they pinned it on some Jews-but the village is split between two clans that hate each other and keep torching each other’s houses,) etc.

    On the other hand, he can always be counted on for right-wing slogans, especially during election season.

    This is the system he is a consummate part of:

    http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/Arrogance.htm

    The other thing is, he represents stasis. We did not come here for stasis-we could have had that back in the old country. And it’s not even a good stasis. Sure, real estate values in Tel Aviv are sky-high, there is a new billion dollar startup exit every six months and all that. On the other hand, every week there is an Arab stabbing or shooting Jews, the government tearing down Jewish houses, another ginned-up prosecution of “right-wing extremists.” Our holiest place is under the control of our enemies, and if I go up there and so much as pray, an Arab who is employed as an Israeli policeman will arrest me.

    OK, compared to the insane asylum that is America and Europe, we don’t have it so bad. But our national mission is not to be “ok compared to America.” It’s much more than that. Every month we don’t come closer to fulfilling it, we move further away.

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  128. Dissident says:
    @Anonymous
    During the Chicago 7, 8, conspiracy trial, Abbie Hoffman attempted a semi-unctuous ethnic appeal on the presiding judge (also named Hoffman) calling the latter's justicial ministrations a "shanda vor die goyim." It didn't succeed so well as a tactical matter, though I don't think Abbie expected otherwise.

    If only Hoffman could have realized the irony of /his/ saying such a thing.

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  129. @Percy Gryce
    There seems to be real willful ignorance around this "Jews will not replace us" meme. It's clear that no one thinks Jewish numbers are large enough to replace anyone. Rather, the argument goes, that Jews are the instigators of policies--unfettered immigration among others--that tend to displace the native-born population.

    I assume that this meme is not accurately reported on because to do so would be to raise uncomfortable questions.

    Bill Kristol told me the lazy Americans https://www.amren.com/news/2017/02/bill-kristol-lazy-spoiled-white-working-class-replaced-immigrants/ ought to be replaced. Even if there were but a relative few out in flyover white wasteland with the ears to hear the proclamation, I’m betting that those who are writing and punditing from within the eruv have been having themselves quite the barrel of haughty laughs. Peter Beinart’s ‘we’re your rulers already, goy, so we ain’t gonna be taking your job at Wendy’s’ is certainly a top shelf zinger, and gracious, too!!! http://archive.is/7vqm3

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  130. Dissident says:
    @Anonymous
    Well that didn't work.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHtHBLWWAAAlZy_.jpg

    As an Orthodox Jew, I feel compelled to respond to the Daily Mail quote shown in the image by pointing-out the following. In reality, Steve Bannon’s “‘far-Right’ views” are a lot less –if at all– at odds with Judaism than the degeneracy-promoting Cultural Marxism, Globalism and Zionism that are obscenely called Jared and Ivanka’s “Jewish faith”.

    No doubt, some will say that in posting comments of this nature, I am suggesting that I consider myself an exemplar of Judaism and thereby subjecting myself to special, rigorous scrutiny of my own conduct and lifestyle. And that any evidence found of any area in which said conduct and lifestyle may fall short of the standards that I purport to subscribe-to would constitute evidence of hypocrisy on my part and thereby detract from, if not entirely negate, my credibility. But the very premise that such thinking is based upon is fallacious. For I have never criticized and certainly never condemned anyone merely for falling short, in personal conduct or lifestyle, of the often extremely rigorous standards that Torah Judaism demands. Nor have I ever claimed to always live-up to such standards myself. I do not judge others merely for such weaknesses and shortcomings, which all mere mortals, myself no exception, possess and, if at all conscientious, struggle with, to one degree or another.

    Rather, what I condemn, as a Jew, are people who perpetrate perversions of Judaism; people who, in the name of Judaism commit acts and, especially, promote ideologies and agendas that actually violate and desecrate the name of Judaism; people that engage in behavior that discredits, sullies and brings a bad name to Jews collectively and behavior that creates and exacerbates resentment and animosity toward Jews collectively.

    I trust that this distinction that I have made will be understood and appreciated by intelligent, fair-minded individuals.

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  131. Dissident says:

    To our fellow Jews, in North America, in Israel, and around the world: What side are you on?

    On the side of decency (as defined by broadly traditionalist, bourgeois standards); Western civilization, rule-of-law and nationalism. On the side of the historic American people who are under attack from the forces of open-borders Globalism, Cultural Marxism and virulently anti-White ethnomasochism. President Trump may leave a lot to be desired in his own right but as long as his enemies are the enemies of civilization and decent people, I will stand firmly with him and defend him against such vermin.

    Thanks for asking.
    ————————–
    The following, adapted from a response I wrote to a certain incessantly preening, goody Goodwhite on a hybrid blog-local news site for the Upper West Side of Manhattan, should be apropos here.

    - I consider Whites, Gentiles, males who are unambiguously male and masculine, heterosexuals (as well as dissident, anti-buggery homosexuals*), [*GRAPHIC CONTENT] Christians, Republicans, Southerners, Alaskans, Young Urban Professionals (“YUPpies”), Upper East Siders, Suburbanites, tourists, wealthy individuals and those on the ideological, political or cultural Right, all as no less worthy of respect and tolerance

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    and as no less entitled-to such rights as those of expression, conscience, self-preservation, self-defense and self-determination, than I do any of the following: “Persons of Color”, Jews, females, homosexuals, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Shintoists, Democrats, artists, poor individuals and those on the ideological, political or cultural Left.

    - Likewise, I consider racial, ethnic, religious, nationalist and other forms of group identity, pride and aspirations to be no less legitimate or acceptable for any of the groups in the former of my two lists above (i.e., those who do not enjoy favored, protected, victim status) than for any of the groups in the latter of my two lists (i.e., those who do enjoy said status).

    - Unlike Democrats and what would appear to be most of the Left, I do not find (actual) anti-Jewish rhetoric or actions any more acceptable when coming from Blacks than I do when coming from Whites.

    - I consider denial of racial realities, a fundamental tenet of the orthodoxy that you continually try to enforce, little better than race-based persecution. Both are reprehensible and pernicious. Both can be deadly. I reject both, as I believe do the Dissident Right commentators whom I frequently cite (your repeated, McCarthy-esque, spastic attacks on them notwithstanding).

    - The representation of (overwhelmingly secular) Jews in the ideologies, movements and other forces that I, along with my fellow travelers on the Dissident Right, consider to be some of the most pernicious and destructive, is disproportionately high. Given this reality, I am afraid that, were the idea of restricting immigration to Jews be proposed, I could not dismiss it as entirely unreasonable.

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  132. Comms says:

    Dissident,
    Thank you for your insightful comment. Please help fellow Unz readers understand an aspect of Judaism that has heretofore been neglected. Many have an impression that Jews are quite reluctant to admit to transgressions, whether amongst themselves or particularly amongst Gentiles. Is there a basis in Torah or elsewhere that requires or encourages Jews to avoid such self-critical discussions? Greater reader awareness on that topic may help avoid tedious or tendentious speculation and may provide opportunities for more productive communication and understanding.
    Thank you,
    Comms

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  133. Dissident says:

    To our fellow Jews, in North America, in Israel, and around the world: What side are you on?

    On the side of decency (as defined by broadly traditionalist, bourgeois standards); Western civilization, rule-of-law and nationalism. On the side of the historic American people who are under attack from the forces of open-borders Globalism, Cultural Marxism and virulently anti-White ethnomasochism. President Trump may leave a lot to be desired in his own right but as long as his enemies are the enemies of civilization and decent people, I will stand firmly with him and defend him against said enemies.

    Thanks for asking.
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    Comms:

    Thank you for your comment and appreciation. To respond properly is not easy for me; writing generally comes at a heavy cost to me in terms of time, energy and mental resources. I would like to respond in some detail and may yet do so but I do not know how soon.

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